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Posted at 8:33 AM ET, 11/29/2010

Maryland's Ralph Friedgen and the ACC coach of the year race

By Eric Prisbell

A number of ACC coaches have done fine jobs this season. Among them, North Carolina’s Butch Davis, who steadied the Tar Heel ship after alleged nefarious player activities came to light, and Virginia Tech’s Frank Beamer, who led the Hokies to an 8-0 league record after dropping the first two games of the regular season. But if someone wants to make a case for anyone other than Ralph Friedgen to win coach of the year honors, I’d like to hear it.

Just a casual look at this season’s accomplishments reveals a six-win improvement over last season with most of the same players from that 2-10 debacle. The Terrapins seemingly improve on a weekly basis, win or lose. They nearly beat both Florida schools. At various times, they have excelled offensively, defensively and on special teams. A regular season that began with Friedgen on the hot seat ends with Maryland lurking as the team no ACC team wants to play. And he’s done it with a patchwork offensive line and a freshman quarterback, albeit quite a promising one.

To me, that’s not the most impressive thing. When this season began, given how much he invests emotionally into his team, I wondered if we’d see cracks during the most pressurized season of his 10-year tenure. In 2009, we saw the Friedgen who resorted to attributing some struggles to bad luck and misfortune, rankling more than a few fans, befuddling some loyal supporters. And more than a few close observers thought he had changed, softened, since his ultra-successful first three years. But what Friedgen showed this season was neither an unrelenting iron fist nor signs of fragility at 63. He exhibited a deft touch throughout, opting for the correct motivational devices at the precise times they were required. He was patient when some thought he couldn’t afford to be. He was demanding when some didn’t think he needed to be. And it worked.

A handful of Friedgen memories linger in my mind after an improbable regular season. During the offseason, some players were concerned about Friedgen perhaps becoming more distant and not having a close enough bond with all players. So Friedgen made a point to visit the locker room each day after practice during training camp, chatting with players, encouraging them. They noticed and they reciprocated. Some would pop their heads into his office just to ask how he was. Friedgen kept faith in an inexperienced, work-in-progress offensive line, never imagining that he’d lose starter after starter to injury this season, complicating youth and depth issues. The Clemson game was an early telling moment in the season: Maryland self-destructed, committing a slew of mistakes and regressing. The obvious conclusion: Okay, the Terps weren’t ready for that kind of test. No, Friedgen saw more in this team, so he lambasted them in a nine-minute postgame rant – most of the harshest comments unprompted --- vowing to hold players’ "feet to the fire." It was surprising. It also worked. Before the Wake Forest game, an absolute must-win contest, he sent a text message to players saying it is time to make a statement. Sixty-two points later, the statement resonated throughout the league. The Miami game was another litmus test that I clearly recall. No coach worth his playbook is going to endorse moral victories. But you can read between the lines in news conferences to get a sense whether a coach believes his team has overachieved in the game. Maryland came within one play – one catch, one stop – of beating a desperate Miami team at their place – a valiant effort; no shame in that outcome. And yet Friedgen was legitimately pained after the game, knowing that he had the better team. And then there was the N.C. State game. Down 14-0, Friedgen challenged defensive players on the sideline, saying they were in a fog and sleepwalking. Some got mad right back at him. But, again, it worked. Maryland scored 24 unanswered points, forced two turnovers and blocked a field goal in the season's most noteworthy victory.

In the end, all he did this season was this: He took players who began the season still searching for the confidence to beat one division I-A team, any division I-A team, and he finished the regular season with players who believe they can beat anyone they are matched with in a bowl game. No other ACC coach can rival that feat.

By Eric Prisbell  | November 29, 2010; 8:33 AM ET
Categories:  Football, Ralph Friedgen  
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Since, arguably, North Carolina wouldn't have been playing without half their stars if he'd run a tighter ship, I don't think you can give Coach of the Year to Butch Davis.

Posted by: dlgood | November 29, 2010 9:13 AM | Report abuse

How on earth could Butch Davis be considered? Even if all of the player stuff happened without his knowledge, how could you justify giving it to him? It still happened in his program.

And Beamer? Wasn't his program expected to do very well this year?

If those three are your only choices, I think if its gotta be Ralph hands down.

Posted by: jbroon | November 29, 2010 9:27 AM | Report abuse

I've been as critical of Prisbell's writing as anyone, but I appreciate the insightfullness of this piece, and not because it's a little bit of a fluff piece on ralph. Neither Ralph nor the staff have been perfect this year, they've had some miscues in gameplanning and calling. But the approach appears to be different and now the players are playing to win, which was absent in recent years, especially last year. The team last year was better than 2-10, but when you play to lose, you end up choking at the end of games and we lost many at the end. Kudos to Eric for finding a perspective as to why things turned out better as opposed to just writing about how great the coach or his staff is.

Posted by: minhle1 | November 29, 2010 9:55 AM | Report abuse

I think Jimbo Fisher will get it, unfortunately

Posted by: mechagojira | November 29, 2010 10:31 AM | Report abuse

How on Earth can you name Butch Davis the "coach of the year?" He ran a dirty program that fell flat on its' face when it was busted.

And Frank Beamer? I'm sorry but a "Coach of the Year" does not lose to a 1-AA school. The Terps have had plenty of bad losses in their history (Mid Tenn State, Northern Illinois etc.) but this was an EPIC let down.

Posted by: IReadTheBaltimoreSunWhenIWantToReadGoodSportsWriting | November 29, 2010 11:07 AM | Report abuse

It's not even close. Ralph will win it.

Posted by: aviscardo | November 29, 2010 11:40 AM | Report abuse

I'm not sure why Jimbo Fisher's not on the list, because he's the most likely candidate to take the prize. He followed a legend, beat his rival (Florida), and won the Atlantic Division. I think Fridge has put together an amazing season, but it's only good enough for second or third best in the ACC this year.

Whoever put up the poll needs to have their head examined that they would put Butch Davis on but leave Jimbo Fisher off. Davis was supposed to have a Championship contending team this year, and despite the turmoil, his team severely underperformed. Jimbo took over a very talented squad, but he got them to play together, and weather the storm of losing his starting QB for a chunk of time, and still came out on top.

Posted by: Russtinator | November 29, 2010 12:14 PM | Report abuse

I'm not sure why Jimbo Fisher's not on the list, because he's the most likely candidate to take the prize. He followed a legend, beat his rival (Florida), and won the Atlantic Division.

Posted by: Russtinator | November 29, 2010 12:14 PM

I think that's what many in the ACC media and at FSU expected with Fisher taking over from Bowden - who was asleep at the wheel for the past few years. Plus, they have a talented senior QB.

Coach of the year always seems to be some sort of comeback award. Actually, I think Beamer deserves a doff of the cap after their horrible weeks 1 and 2. But the Fridge should win it.

Posted by: Kev29 | November 29, 2010 1:34 PM | Report abuse

Russ, I agree..it's really between Jimbo, Fridge, and Beamer.

Just the fact that Fridge is in the running for ACC Coach of the Year while the Petecards, SirPelleas, TerpfanMAs, Caphillterps of this blog have repeatedly called for his firing shows us just how absurd their comments have been.

Posted by: Barno1 | November 29, 2010 1:39 PM | Report abuse

I think that's what many in the ACC media and at FSU expected with Fisher taking over from Bowden - who was asleep at the wheel for the past few years. Plus, they have a talented senior QB.

Posted by: Kev29 | November 29, 2010 1:34 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, but didn't have that senior QB for what turned out to be the most pivotal game of the year against Clemson. It's amazing to think that the ACC was one 55-yard field goal away from having a 4-way tie atop the Atlantic Division with the result being a draw from a hat to see who goes to Charlotte this week.

Posted by: Russtinator | November 29, 2010 1:49 PM | Report abuse

***A 55 yard last second field goal by a kicker who had choked in recent games.

I would have enjoyed the chaos of a 4 team tie.

Posted by: Barno1 | November 29, 2010 1:57 PM | Report abuse

With wins over:
Navy
Dook
BC
Wake
UVa
Morgan St.
Fla. Int'l
NC State

It's hard to make a case for Ralph..but then again, the ACC was so weak this year, Ralph is a candidate....regardless, you have to give it to Beamer or Jimbo


Posted by: ptandcarol | November 29, 2010 2:15 PM | Report abuse

With wins over:

Samford
BYU
UVA
BC
Wake
Clemson
Md
Florida (a team that is currently ranked lower by both major polls than Navy)

It's hard to make a case for Jimbo...but then again, the ACC was so weak this year, Jimbo is a candidate...regardless, you have to give it to Beamer or Ralph.

Posted by: Barno1 | November 29, 2010 2:26 PM | Report abuse

The nod has to go to one of the schools playing for the ACC championship.....Ralph? Get serious...just cuz you really sucked last year and finished in 4th place this year doesnt make u COY....get serious!...we have been here before (actually almost every year) with ralphie...a good season followed by disappointing seasons....no sustainable momentum

Posted by: TerpfanMA | November 29, 2010 2:37 PM | Report abuse

a good season followed by disappointing seasons....no sustainable momentum

Posted by: TerpfanMA | November 29, 2010 2:37 PM | Report abuse

2001 through 2002 was good pretty sustained success (all 10 win seasons). 2006 through 2008 was also pretty decent. Unfortunately kids graduate, go pro, and get hurt, so only the most elite schools in the country can sustain success for more than 4-6 years at a time, and even those schools hit bumps in the road from time to time---

Alabama--4-9 in 2003, 6-6 in 2004, and 6-7 in 2006
Auburn--5-7 in 2008
Oregon--5-6 in 2004
Texas--5-7 in 2010
Michigan--3-9 in 2008 and 5-7 (1-7 in Big 11) in 2009
Notre Dame--3-9 in 2007 and 6-6 in 2009
Nebraska--5-6 in 2004 and 5-7 in 2007
Penn State--3-9 in 2003 and 4-7 in 2004

Even the most storied programs in college football have had a bad season or two in the past 10 years.

Posted by: Russtinator | November 29, 2010 3:04 PM | Report abuse

TerpfanTA continues to amaze us with his ignorance. Do you really think the Terps finished 4th place? Remind me again why you are posting here, since you clearly don't even follow this team.

FYI TerpSuperFanMA: we finished in 2nd place in the division, and 3rd overall in the ACC.

Please. Stop. Commenting.

Posted by: Barno1 | November 29, 2010 3:08 PM | Report abuse

so barny, how does that make fridge COY over the 1st yr coach who is taking his team to the championship? ooops I think you dribbled some koolaid on your shirt...make sure your mommy uses bleach to get it out

Posted by: TerpfanMA | November 29, 2010 3:57 PM | Report abuse

yeah, nice post russ....now lets see you resubmit your list with how many of those schools have had 4 losing seasons in the last 6 years....

Posted by: TerpfanMA | November 29, 2010 3:59 PM | Report abuse

fat fridge winning this? are you outta yer mind? how can he win this award when he had a trip to the conf title game in his hands then gagged it away? at home no less. not to mention getting freight trained by a cruddy clemson team.

as much as it makes me cringe the award belongs to beamer. who here predicted they would win 10 straight after the loss to jmu?

Posted by: rev_ollie | November 29, 2010 4:27 PM | Report abuse

yeah, nice post russ....now lets see you resubmit your list with how many of those schools have had 4 losing seasons in the last 6 years....

Posted by: TerpfanMA

What an idiot. It's the COY award, not a coach of the past 6 years award. I don't think Ralph is deserving to win it but deserving of consideration.

Posted by: minhle1 | November 29, 2010 4:32 PM | Report abuse

No minnie...you are the idiot! I was responding to russ who pointed out other top programs have had down years in the past....learn to read if you are going to rant...maybe when you get to UMD they will have a remedial class for you....jeez what a bozo

Posted by: TerpfanMA | November 29, 2010 5:19 PM | Report abuse

I don't see how Jimbo was more impressive than Fridge. He did not dramatically improve their record and he had a senior QB and lots of talent.

VT lost to JMU at home. That is not good coaching.

MD was predicted to finish last and won 6 more games than last year.

Posted by: garrett4 | November 29, 2010 5:41 PM | Report abuse

I think Ralph would probably say that the Coach of the Year Award is probably overrated. How many coaches have been fired a year or two later?

That said, Ralph definitely deserves it. Also, although none of the articles on the Terp/N.C. State game mentioned it, the Maryland players had to have some extra motivation for beating up on N.C. State, considering that it was a fine way to stick it to Debbie "let's railroad Ralph" Yow.

Posted by: stevestegman | November 29, 2010 6:01 PM | Report abuse

Since the Terps lost to Miami and beat N.C. State, Friedgen said Sunday, "We're really the fourth-place team out of 12 teams in the ACC."

__________________________________________

Hey Barny! What do you say now? You have just outed yourself as a bozo AND a liar...I told you after the BC game that we get to at least 1 UMD Football and Basketball game each season and you still run your silly manchild posts about Pete and I not having been to UMD games in over a decade....Not that it matters but you still post your silly lies....the best thing you could do for UMD athletics is to become a fan of another program

Beat it Geek!

Posted by: TerpfanMA | November 29, 2010 6:20 PM | Report abuse

No way Davis is in the running... he was in charge when all the cheating and scandals happened. How has he not been fired???

I think the only 3 in the running are Beamer, Fisher, and the Fridge. Both VT and FSU had senior QBs, experience across the board, and were expected to meet in the ACCCG. I guess you could give it to them, but their coaching was nothing special. Virginia Tech got lucky by avoiding the top 2 teams in the Atlantic (FSU & MD). Florida State also avoided 2 of the top 3 teams from the other division.

Ralph took a team that was 2-10 and expected to finish last and got them within a game of the ACCCG. I say Ralph deserves it this year. He changed the culture in College Park and made this group into winners. Hopefully the improvement continues during the off-season and they win the ACC next year.

Posted by: TerpFan2001 | November 29, 2010 6:51 PM | Report abuse

I admit it: I was one of those calling for Ralph's job last year -- not just because of one lousy season, but because of a pattern of mediocrity over the past few seasons.

But he got another chance, and he made the most of it. Having Danny O'Brien sure doesn't hurt!

The head coach bears the responsibility when things go wrong, and deserves the credit when things go right. A lot went right for the Terps this year.

It's not just about exceeding expectations; no ACC team improved more from the beginning of the season to the end. As weak as they have been in the past, I think they are now worthy of Top 25 consideration, and Ralph is absolutely deserving of COY.

Posted by: SmittyATL | November 29, 2010 6:57 PM | Report abuse

TerpfanMA,

Your negativity about the Terps never ceases to amaze me. Instead of accepting that the Terps had a good season--second in division, tied for third in the ACC, with a good chance to finish the season ranked if we win the bowl game--you instead complain about the loss to miami which technically means we finished 4th in the seeding. Jesus.

Instead of acknowledging that the Terps had a record setting day on offense against a ranked team going for a BCS bowl, you complain about our rushing statistics against them. Seriously dude?

I guess this is what it's like when you follow more than 90% of Terps games through the internet and box scores. I'm sure that self-proclaimed 'one game a year' that you actually attend in person really gives you this amazing inside perspective about the team and the direction it needs to go.

I'm just thankful the players didn't quit on this team as quickly as you did Terp'FAN'Man.

Posted by: Barno1 | November 29, 2010 7:19 PM | Report abuse

Coach of the year?

Freigen's recruits and coaches were responsible for last years pos record and you want to make him coach of the year for a medicore record?

Coach out of a job is more in line.

Posted by: DaveLopan | November 29, 2010 8:27 PM | Report abuse

No minnie...you are the idiot! I was responding to russ who pointed out other top programs have had down years in the past....learn to read if you are going to rant...maybe when you get to UMD they will have a remedial class for you....jeez what a bozo

Posted by: TerpfanMA

LOL, wut????? I know this is offensive to some but you're being retarded.

You posted that Ralph should not get credit for improving over such a terrible job last year to which end Russinator reminded you that all programs have down years. then you proceed to point out that other programs don't have as many losing seasons as Ralph has. Why does this matter? Now tell me again what point is this? Both Russ and I are pointing out that the award has nothing to do with last year other than showing improvements or beating expectations. Your retarded posts about Ralph's struggles in the past 6 years has NO bearing whatsover and is completely idiotic to this award. It's not about reading, it's about why your posts are consistenly idiotic because you're irrational hatred for the coach. you're like a weird 12 year old girl. I don't like Ralph much either but get a freakin grip on yourself.

Posted by: minhle1 | November 30, 2010 12:45 AM | Report abuse

there is no what terpfanMA attended any football game. He's taken his displeasure with Ralph to a very personal irrational level-i find it hard to believe that he would drag his family all the way from Boston to support the team at this point. He's lying to save face about his lack of support.

Posted by: minhle1 | November 30, 2010 12:56 AM | Report abuse

Minnie...you are a silly tool....the point that Russ was responding to was related to was my point about Ralph failing to sustain any momentum in the program by sputtering along with good/bad seasons...it had nothing to do with COY but was my general feeling about the program under him....perhaps a reading comprehension course is in your future....go back and read the post...better yet, let me re-state 2 points so you can understand:

1) Ralph should not get COY for finishing 4th in the conference

2) Unrelated to COY, I dont think Ralph has ever demonstrated the ability to sustain improvement in the program


Note in point #1, it is you, not me who is using LAST year as a justification for improvement this year...I am saying, forget about last year...what did you do this year?? And Ralph finished 4th! Didnt even win the division. let alone the conference...the fact that he really SUCKED last year is meaningless...get it?


And mys dislike for Ralph is not irrational...I dont think he is a good coach and his teams underperform....my guess is that if there was a coach you felt the same way about, you wouldnt like him either....

Posted by: TerpfanMA | November 30, 2010 8:29 AM | Report abuse

The nod has to go to one of the schools playing for the ACC championship.....Ralph? Get serious...just cuz you really sucked last year and finished in 4th place this year doesnt make u COY....get serious!...we have been here before (actually almost every year) with ralphie...a good season followed by disappointing seasons....no sustainable momentum

Posted by: TerpfanMA

Are you a retard? this is your post, perhaps learn to read what you write. "cuz you sucked last year..." you CLEARLY made a case that he shouldn't win the COY because he has "no sustainable momentum" which is COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT to the award you dufus. You are clearly using his history as a case against him being the COY in this post you dimwit.

Posted by: minhle1 | November 30, 2010 10:12 AM | Report abuse

And mys dislike for Ralph is not irrational...I dont think he is a good coach and his teams underperform....my guess is that if there was a coach you felt the same way about, you wouldnt like him either....

Posted by: TerpfanMA

Learn to read. Your dislike for Ralph is perfectly acceptable...it's your immature behavior that is irrational. There are plenty of coaches I don't care for, but I'm not silly enough to take it that personally like you. you really act like a bratty teenage girl.

Posted by: minhle1 | November 30, 2010 10:14 AM | Report abuse

LOL, reports are out that Ralph won the ACCCOY. I'm not sure he deserved it but improving 6 games is significant and finishing 2nd in the Atlantic while being projected for last meant something to the voters. Objectively speaking, Beamer or Fisher could have won it as well but neither was head and should above RF so I guess they went with the redemption story. I guess him sucking so bad and only finishing "4th" and being unable to sustain momentum didn't matter after all. oh well.

The best part of this is that TerpfanMA is looking for the nearest bridge to jump off of (sorry for the offensive joke to others).

Posted by: minhle1 | November 30, 2010 11:00 AM | Report abuse

1) Ralph should not get COY for finishing 4th in the conference

2) Unrelated to COY, I dont think Ralph has ever demonstrated the ability to sustain improvement in the program


Note in point #1, it is you, not me who is using LAST year as a justification for improvement this year...I am saying, forget about last year...what did you do this year?? And Ralph finished 4th! Didnt even win the division. let alone the conference...the fact that he really SUCKED last year is meaningless...get it?


And mys dislike for Ralph is not irrational...I dont think he is a good coach and his teams underperform....my guess is that if there was a coach you felt the same way about, you wouldnt like him either....

Posted by: TerpfanMA | November 30, 2010 8:29 AM | Report abuse

I will say as a Terps fans that Fridge did a heck of a job, but this award should probably go to Jimbo Fisher. However, I can see the arguement for Fridge because of this team's ability to exceed expectations. Part of what the COY Award is given for is getting the most out of your players and getting them to overachieve. Does that perception have something to do with last year's disal performance, absolutely. No one had Maryland finishing with more than 4 victories this season, and Fridge got this team to 8, possibly 9, and a couple bounces of the ball and a potential pull from the hat from an appearance in the ACCCG. That's definitely more than I expected before the season (I definitely wanted more after seeing some of the games play out and some of the little things that could have turned a solid season into a magical season), and voters for ACCCOY look at that when they cast their votes.

Jimbo Fisher maybe wasn't expected to bring FSU back to the top, but the 'Noles were certainly in better shape coming into the season than the Terps. Beamer was expected to challenge for the BCS Championship, and while they rolled through their ACC schedule, the heartbreaking loss to Boise State and subsequent hangover against JMU will always taint this season.

So while you say finishing 4th is not worthy of COY consideration, I think it does depend on what the pre-season perception of your team is within the media, and Maryland was picked at the bottom of the division, yet finished second.

Posted by: Russtinator | November 30, 2010 11:43 AM | Report abuse

Chick Hernandez has reported the ACCCOY is to Ralph. He broke the news on Greivas and Gary winning their awards as well. Chick's got a much better source than Eric within the athletic dept.-this is what happens when the beat writer isolates himself from the programs he's paid to cover, he has no source.

Posted by: minhle1 | November 30, 2010 12:04 PM | Report abuse

minnie....you seem to be the one calling names and bursting blood vesselsvwith your childish rants like "retard" "dufus" "idiot" "dimwit"...looks like you are the little girl on her period

Posted by: TerpfanMA | November 30, 2010 12:05 PM | Report abuse

minnie....the exchange between russ and I is clearly over your head...my statement was a rhetorical one because others were using this years record in comparison to last year as reason for COY.....your failure to comprehend this and your continued blather just makes you look silly.....and yes I am aware that ralph will win the award...wouldnt have been my choice but thats only my opinion...its not worth any more or less than yours

Posted by: TerpfanMA | November 30, 2010 12:28 PM | Report abuse

It's official now...

http://www.theacc.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/113010aac.html

'm really surprised Fisher only got 6 votes, tied with O'Brien for 3rd. Beamer was second, 10 votes behind Fridge.

Posted by: Russtinator | November 30, 2010 1:00 PM | Report abuse

minnie....the exchange between russ and I is clearly over your head...my statement was a rhetorical one because others were using this years record in comparison to last year as reason for COY.....your failure to comprehend this and your continued blather just makes you look silly.....and yes I am aware that ralph will win the award...wouldnt have been my choice but thats only my opinion...its not worth any more or less than yours

Posted by: TerpfanMA

haha, you're spinning your stupidity into a circle. the COY looks at results, beating expectations and improvements so obviously they're looking at how many games the team improved upon from last year. your rationale is that the 6 game improvment is less significant because Ralph screwed the pooch last year to which end, the voters don't agree. Russinator has the same point as I, except I don't mind calling you an idiot about it. he clearly pointed out that all teams have down years so the voters don't think, well Ralph sucked so bad that maybe what they accomplished this year is not all that impressive. This is your mentality, the voters disagreed as did Russ and I. Then you tried to support this silly notion and counter Russ' point by saying, well, Ralph keeps going up and down...to which end I ASK ONE MORE TIME, HOW IS THIS RELEVANT TO THE DISCUSSION ON THE COY? the answer is that it isn't relevant and that you just talk out of your rear end with endless non-sense.

LOL at thinking any non sensical notion you have is over any one's head.

Posted by: minhle1 | November 30, 2010 1:43 PM | Report abuse

minnie....you seem to be the one calling names and bursting blood vesselsvwith your childish rants like "retard" "dufus" "idiot" "dimwit"...looks like you are the little girl on her period

Posted by: TerpfanMA

you're seriously complaining about me characterizing you as an idiot, retard, dufus and dimwit? Have you read your posts, mother teresa? Now you're delusional in your own behavior.

Posted by: minhle1 | November 30, 2010 1:47 PM | Report abuse

What an incomprehensible lightweight you are....

I said at 8:29 AM:

"2) Unrelated to COY, I dont think Ralph has ever demonstrated the ability to sustain improvement in the program"

Minnie comes back AGAIN at 1:43 and asks

"by saying, well, Ralph keeps going up and down...to which end I ASK ONE MORE TIME, HOW IS THIS RELEVANT TO THE DISCUSSION ON THE COY?"


ahhh...maybe I threw you a curve when I used a big word like "UNRELATED"...I can understand how that would be confusing for you...there were 2 separate points being made and you cant make the distinction even after it is pointed out to you....I just cant help you anymore...perhaps someone else can point you in the right direction.....

BTW..here is another first for you...an entire post without name-calling...see how its done?


Posted by: TerpfanMA | November 30, 2010 2:02 PM | Report abuse

To begin, the "unrelated" stuff was a clarification on your part in a follow-up email. but more importantly, this thread is about the merits of the COY, what is the point of throwing in an "unrelated" jab? I'll answer for you, there's no point other than you trying to make some illogical claim about why he was not deserving of the award. You can spin your stupidity over and over, no one's buying that you're providing any thought that's hard to comprehend.

BTW, did you read your three previous posts? You don't see name calling on your part? "silly tool" "idiot" or do you honestly don't think you actually wrote those words you sensitive but hypocritical boob.

Posted by: minhle1 | November 30, 2010 4:03 PM | Report abuse

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