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Posted at 2:23 PM ET, 12/ 3/2010

All signs point to Maryland-East Carolina in the Military Bowl

By Eric Prisbell

All signs point to Maryland playing East Carolina (6-6) in the Military Bowl at RFK Stadium on Dec 29, according to bowl executives and five officials and sources throughout the ACC.

At this point, should Maryland (8-4, 5-3 ACC) wind up at a different bowl – Orlando’s Champs Sports Bowl, the Sun Bowl in El Paso or Music City Bowl in Nashville – it would qualify as, by far, Maryland’s biggest upset of the season. Despite finishing in a three-way tie for third in the ACC – with North Carolina State (8-4, 5-3) and Miami (7-5, 5-3) – Maryland faces the anticipated prospect of free-falling to the eight slot in the ACC’s pecking order.

By landing Maryland – an outcome Military Bowl executive director Steve Beck has been unabashedly praying for – it will be the ideal scenario for a bowl looking to maximize local appeal. It would also be the best scenario for Maryland strictly from a financial standpoint because the school stands to lose money on any other bowl trip (a berth in the Independence Bowl in Shreveport, La., would have been the financial doomsday scenario). But in the view of Coach Ralph Friedgen and his players, matching up against a .500 Conference USA team on a weekday afternoon 10 miles from campus looms as an anticlimactic letdown following a resurgent season.

What could hold up further developments is that the Champs Sports Bowl in Orlando wants to make a public announcement at a big-show Sunday night dinner. Bowls beneath the Champs Sports Bowl in the selection process are unable to make firm decisions until Orlando bowl officials make clear their intent. But five sources who have direct knowledge of the bowl discussions on Thursday and Friday indicated that Maryland’s chances of landing in Orlando now range from slim to none, regardless of whether Notre Dame, West Virginia or South Florida is the opponent.

(If Maryland chose to pass on the Military Bowl, it likely would not be able to compete in the Kraft Fight Hunger Bowl in San Francisco on Jan. 9 because Maryland's players begin winter session about a week before the game.)

Sunday’s official bowl announcement will serve as a telling statement about the perception of Maryland’s diminished fan base, which filled its home stadium to 75 percent capacity only once this season. The announcement could also underscore the worst-kept secret in the bowl selection process: potential ticket sales trump everything. As I reported immediately after Saturday’s 38-31 victory over N.C. State, Maryland’s most likely destination was the Military Bowl no matter if the Terrapins won or lost the regular season finale. That's neither fair nor just. It's just college football.

This time of year, you hear bowl officials repeatedly talk publicly about the commitment to taking the most “deserving” team. They talk about looking at signature wins. They talk about looking at head-to-head matchups. They expound about the intrigue in compelling story lines.

Then reality hits, and the teams that can lure 30,000 of their faithful to bowl destination for three- or four-day vacations -- booking hotels well in advance and flooding the ticket offices -- are duly rewarded with the most prestigious games in the warmest climates. It’s no secret that Maryland could have trouble meeting the 10,000 ticket allotment requirement for the Military Bowl, if only because some fans are likely to purchase tickets from various online venues and elsewhere. As one college football official said: “If Maryland struggles to meet that for that bowl in their own back yard, they are going to find it hard to get in any bowl game for some time.”

Regardless of how hard Maryland folks lobby, it’s hard to overcome the perception that you struggle to sell tickets for your own stadium, much less in a stadium in a far-away city. I still recall the following exchange with a representative of the Chick-fil-A Bowl during halftime of the N.C. State game: I’m still impressed that I managed to keep a straight face as the blazered representative looked me in the eye a week ago and told me Maryland mathematically remained in consideration for the upper-tier bowl.

“Mathematically?” I said, unable to conceal a smirk.

“Mathematically,” he said.

It was not just that I knew it was probably hogwash. It was that he knew that I knew it was probably hogwash. It’s no knock on the Chick-fil-A Bowl folks, who are justified in taking a Florida State or a Virginia Tech for competitive and financial considerations. But as for the some of the other bowls, it’s hard to use the word “deserving” sincerely when Boise State goes from a lucrative BCS game to obscurity because a young man missed a short-range kick. Or when a formidable Boston College team plummeted a few years ago because of a lackluster fan base. Or when Maryland, and its feel-good narrative, likely won’t be boarding a plane bowl week.

I’ve enjoyed talking with Will Webb, the executive director of Charlotte’s Meineke Car Care Bowl, because he is blunt and will tell it like it is. Now that Clemson (6-6) is reportedly destined for Charlotte, Webb offered this quote to the respected TigerIllustrated.com: “At 6-6 where you have all these Clemson fans saying they will support their team and come, that’s very appealing to us. And I think it speaks legions about their school and their base. With what they have done this week, they are going to be on everybody’s list for years to come.”

Clemson fans have bombarded Webb about tickets and travel information, a bowl executive's dream. While the Tigers limped to an underwhelming season, their fans salvaged it this week. Conversely, at Maryland you have Friedgen perhaps making futile efforts lobbying for his overachieving players. Yet the fans who are back on the Terrapins bandwagon, many of whom didn’t attend a game this season, are incredulous at the prospect of falling to RFK. I was alerted to one fan, just hissing mad, on a message board urging for “A Call to Arms,” asking other angry fans to boycott future events in protest. The fan is correct: that gesture would get the attention of bowl officials. And when the message is heard loud and clear, perhaps even the Military Bowl would pass over Maryland in future seasons.

The 2010 Maryland team may be remembered as the best little team no one cared to notice. But this much is clear: Bowl officials certainly noticed that no one noticed. And, barring unforeseen Friedgen magic, that stands as the story Sunday night.

By Eric Prisbell  | December 3, 2010; 2:23 PM ET
Categories:  Football, Ralph Friedgen  
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Eric and the bowl officials basically stated what I had already planned to post if the Terps ended up in the Military Bowl. Boycotting the bowl is absolutely the most incredibly stupid thing a Maryland fan can do. If possible, we should do our best to sell RFK out while clad in red so that next year this will not be an issue come bowl time. This may not be fair but it will only get worse henceforth if Terp fans don't show. In fact, it will likely get much worse.

Posted by: hateisnotafamilyvalue | December 3, 2010 3:35 PM | Report abuse

This is sad man. I always thought Terps fans traveled well to bowls, but maybe not to Byrd. Feel bad for the players, but it's good news for me. I will be at RFK for sure. Buy me a ticket Barno.

Posted by: jpfterps | December 3, 2010 3:41 PM | Report abuse

If MD gets the Military Bowl, which I still doubt will happen, it will be because of "fans" like epdaly, TerpfanMA, sirpelleas, and of course, by far the worst fan the Unviersity of Maryland has: Petecard. These "fans" never go to games, never are a threat to buy season tickets, and don't support their school in any way, shape, or form. Instead the lob attacks like "who cares what meaningless bowl we go to, we hate our (ACC Coach of the Year) coach so much that it doesn't matter."

Maybe if these "fans" actually spent a few dollars to go see MD at Byrd Stadium once in a blue moon, we'd have a better reputation as a school with a large fanbase and would be shoe-ins for the Citrus Bowl.

Posted by: Barno1 | December 3, 2010 3:50 PM | Report abuse

jpfterps, you know I'll give you a ride but you're gonna have to pay for your own ticket this time.

Posted by: Barno1 | December 3, 2010 3:53 PM | Report abuse

OK, I'll take a stab at this one...

I think the fans have some of the blame here. The attendance this year has not been what it should have been, but could you really blame them with a home slate of FIU, Morgan State, Duke, Wake, along with two winners FSU (nearly 50k) and NCState over a holiday weekend? That some schedule after a 2-10 season just isn't going to sell tickets, yet they still drew better than Miami who, without a head coach, will likely get selected ahead of the Terps.

I'm not sure how coaches and school officials fall into the equation other than their ability to lobby for the best bowl, which they seem to be doing.

I think the media has played a very large part in this. From the moment the Terps became eligible, on this very blog, our fearless beat reporter started pimping the Military Bowl. It became a weekly discourse here that assended to daily after the Florida State loss. There's nothing wrong with working through the bowl permutations once a team gets eligible, but it seemed there was some agenda at work here to almost lobby for the Terps to go to the Military Bowl. Mr. Prisbell never actually walked through the bowl selection process until he had written weeks of stories about the Terps going to the Military Bowl. Add to that statements like the one that appear in the story above like, "It’s no secret that Maryland could have trouble meeting the 10,000 ticket allotment requirement for the Military Bowl, if only because some fans are likely to purchase tickets from various online venues and elsewhere." that are completely unfounded and based on conjecture and the writer's opinion and not fact that make the Maryland football team and their supporters look like some fly-by-night operation. People who regularly read this blog understand what it is and that stories here are based on some level of bias. However, a bowl official in Orlando Florida that hops on google to look up "Maryland bowl attendance" would likely stumble upon the conjecture and pessimistic conjecture offerred by the primary author of this blog with the Washington Post name squarly at the top of the page. So while Mr. Pribell is offerring his opinion, as he is entitled to do in this forum, the perception of outsiders is that what is presented here is fact.

cont...

Posted by: Russtinator | December 3, 2010 3:54 PM | Report abuse

It seems like MD is being held hostage. Buy 10,000 tickets at inflated prices or be subjected to the lesser bowls regardless of your seasons record. I agree with not boycotting the team! I hope that we MD fans show up in great numbers. But why pay full price for the tickets when they will be available for $10-20 dollars everywhere except through MD?

It really can't get much worse than this bowl

Posted by: rich263 | December 3, 2010 4:00 PM | Report abuse

If this scenario turns out to be true two things MUST happen:

1) We, as fans, fill RFK.

2) Next year, the team needs to qualify for the ACC CG so that we can flip our collective middle finger to Champs and Meineke for passing us up. This problem ceases to exist if we win our division. The fans will be back next year.

Success is the best revenge.

Posted by: larry31 | December 3, 2010 4:01 PM | Report abuse

ESPN now projecting us in Nashville (that's a new development) or Orlando:
http://espn.go.com/college-football/bowls/projections

CBS Sports also now projecting us in Nashville (also a new development)

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/bowls/predictions

Fox Sports still projecting us in Orlando

http://msn.foxsports.com/collegefootball/story/College-football-bowl-projections-113010

Scout.com now projecting us in Orlando:

http://cfn.scout.com/2/557866.html

**Those that have picked MD in other places have NC State in Orlando. And those that have MD in Orlando have picked NC State to go to El Paso.

Posted by: Barno1 | December 3, 2010 4:02 PM | Report abuse

One more thing:

We have to beat the crap out of East Carolina like we did against Morgan St and WF. We look like total chumps if we don't pound East Carolina.

I have never been to a bowl game, but I am going to this one.

Posted by: larry31 | December 3, 2010 4:05 PM | Report abuse

Ok, fusheezi, buy me a ticket and we can ride with barno

If we hold on in that Miami game I think our boys would be playing in Orlando. Sucks.

Posted by: jpfterps | December 3, 2010 4:05 PM | Report abuse

Russ,

Agree with every word you said. Though I was tempted to vote for Maryland fans in this bowl, I still went with my gut: the media. But instead of the media, choice A should have been simply "Eric Prisbell."

Posted by: Barno1 | December 3, 2010 4:06 PM | Report abuse

...Finally, onto the good ol' boys, the bowl officials, and I'll throw the ACC higherups into that pile. I certainly understand the desire for bowl officials to put together the best matchup on the field along with selling the most tickets possible. After all, a bowl game is far more than a 3-hour game in a stadium, it's banquets, parties, parades, showcases, commercials, hospitality, and so much more. Bowl officials looking to maximize the success (perceived monetary windfall) of their bowl are looking for more than just tickets sold. They're looking for the number of people showing up (many schools, including Maryland, promote the concept of buying a bowl game ticket just so it can either be donated to a needy person or just to show support for the university), the amount of money they bring with them, and their potential to travel back to the area again on a personal vacation. Afterall, a bowl game is more about the host city's local tourism than the two teams playing on the field. Bowl games are also about power, and the power of the guys who run them who have the need to feel powerful in their retirement. These guys adore being wined and dined as they travel aronud the country in their hideously colored blazers "scouting" perspective teams. These guys are worse than FIFA or the IOC, and they're not at all ashamed of it. The bigger the spread a school can put in front of these fat cats when they come to visit, the better chance they have to be selected. These guys squarely share in the blame for the state of college football, and conferences like the ACC, share in their wealth, and wallow in it with them like fat pigs. John Swofford and the ACC gives these bowls the maximum flexibility to make matchups, because the ACC still gets their check at the end of the day. If it were 5 years ago, UNC, BC, GaTech, and Clemson could not be selected ahead of the Terps in the bowl pecking order, because the rules were based on overall record, not just conference record, which would mean the Terps could not fall below the Car Care Bowl. However, the rule led to FSU getting pushed down the bowl ladder one year, and violla, the ACC decided on the conference record rule, which is almost fool proof in allowing the greatest flexibility for bowl officials.

cont...

Posted by: Russtinator | December 3, 2010 4:17 PM | Report abuse

Hey, it's a great excuse to spend a Tuesday afternoon away from the in-laws or work and drink beer. Maybe it will be like the Navy game which was a blast to attend (except without the local rivalry and nice stadium).

E. Prisbell, you hosting a party or what?

One comment on buying tix through other venues: I wasn't happy with my seating for Navy as a Gold TC member for 16 years, so I'd consider going elsewhere if I could get seats around the 50.

Posted by: island1 | December 3, 2010 4:26 PM | Report abuse

One other question for EP: can Maryland decline the Military Bowl and get selected by another Bowl with an open slot?

That would be some useful reporting.

I say Las Vegas Bowl!

Posted by: island1 | December 3, 2010 4:29 PM | Report abuse

Hugh,

I googled her when you posted about her and couldn't find anything. I know nothing about her except she allegedly has huge cans (per your post). Any pictures or anecdotes would be appreciated.

Posted by: fushezzi | December 3, 2010 4:01 PM

Lesley Brown was a Maryland alum circa 1987 who was incidentally in my freshman Chemistry and Psychology sections (the actual lectures held hundreds). I had her in a few more classes through my years at MD. Why do I consider her the most successful MD grad of my era? Because she MARRIED PAT SAJAK at the age of 22 or so in 1987.

I remember someone referring to her as the "Jock Strap" and since I lived with athletes my freshman year, heard of (but never witnessed so take this as hearsay) her escapades with the whos-who of MD athletes at that time.

She also was the MD Girl - she was on a poster with a ripped red "Maryland" tshirt (ripped below the nipple but above the lower breasts) and bikini bottoms (hips heavily airbrushed to perfection...which they weren't). They sold the poster in the Student Union and it was everywhere in CP at the time (fraternities, dorm rooms). I have a hard time believing that the 50 or so posters in the Sigma Chi house when I was in school disappeared completely by the time you guys were in school.

No she was not in the Playboy girls of the ACC (THAT girl was one of the phantom freshmen who disappear by Sophomore year but SHE worked at a local video store near my parents house which made it difficult to rent porn from there). But Lesley's poster was even in the background of one of the scenes from St. Elmo's Fire (filmed in part in CP).

She was frequently depicted in fueds with Vanna White on the Natl Enquirer and such, and to my knowledge is still married to Pat Sajak. and of course the rumor was/is no pre-nup.

I'll try to find an image of the poster.

Regards -

-hgr

Posted by: HughGRection | December 3, 2010 4:31 PM | Report abuse

Lot 8 should be jumpin. Watch out for those Pirates, they've upset a few good teams the past couple of years. Although their program is down a bit now with the loss of their coach last year.

Posted by: Stu27 | December 3, 2010 4:38 PM | Report abuse

...---As one college football official said: “If Maryland struggles to meet that for that bowl in their own back yard, they are going to find it hard to get in any bowl game for some time.”---

That statement should say all you need to know about bowl officials. They walk around with blinders on, only seeing what's right in front of their face. They do not look at facts when trying to figure out who they want in their bowl games, the go on feeling, and the quality of the spread they get on gameday visits. They have no idea how many people will buy tickets for their game aside from what AD's, the media, and their intuition will tell them. They couldn't objectively evaluate teams if you threated to burn their hideously colored blazers with them in it.

Everyone here knows why there might not be a huge turnout for the Military Bowl if Maryland is selected, but ask a bowl official, and what do you get---the team doesn't "travel well." Honestly, I don't understand why the Military Bowl would want Maryland in this game. Having the Terps in the game is not going to sell a single hotel room, and it won't put a dime more into the local economy that is not already there. On top of that they're seeing the fan backlash against the slap-in-the-face being selected would be to Maryland fans and the active boycots already present for the game from disgruntled Terps fans. The Military Bowl would probably be doing themselves a favor by NOT selecting the Terps.

We all know the system is a joke, but we have all had a hand in contributing to this pathetic system that's more about politics and money than success on the football field. Unfortunately, we're stuck with this system, and there's no sign that it's going away any time soon.

BTW, I have one final question...If the following statement is true...

"If Maryland chose to pass on the Military Bowl, it likely would not be able to compete in the Kraft Fight Hunger Bowl in San Francisco on Jan. 9 because Maryland's players begin winter session about a week before the game."

what were the Terps going to do if they were in the Orange Bowl, which is on January 3, 2011---a week before the Fight Hunger Bowl, or heaven forbid if they were in the BCS National Championship on January 10, 2011--a day AFTER the Fight Hunger Bowl? It's OK to miss class for a BCS bowl, but not any other bowl? Someone please enlighten me.

Posted by: Russtinator | December 3, 2010 4:52 PM | Report abuse

Barno, what happened to your conviction that the Terps would NOT be playing in the Military Bowl? I thought it definitely wouldn't happen and EP was off base. If I can't believe in what Worsto declares, what can I believe in? Even though defending myself against you is completely pointless, I'll still do it anyway. This absurd notion that alumni that don't live in the DC area are somehow the problem is maybe your dumbest statement ever. As mentioned in the past, I live far away, have kids, donate money to the school/terrapin club every year, support the team whenever they play in the area, and still get to Byrd once or twice a year since college (was at wake game). Just because I think the school could do better than Ralph Friedgen and think you resemble Patton Oswalt's character in Big Fan doesn't mean I'm part of the problem. It just means I'm not a huge fan of the coach and think you're pathetic.

I will thank you, though. The disappointment of landing in a crummy bowl game against a 6-6 CUSA team was definitely lessened by the thought of you crying and screaming at your computer. "So many lost cut-and-paste opportunities!"

Posted by: epdaly | December 3, 2010 5:02 PM | Report abuse

This is a travesty!!!
Regardless, I'm sure the Terps will have no probelm against little old ECU- where is that school anyway? They probably don't even get fans to come to their games. I bet they don't bring any fans to the bowl. Shouldn't be a problem at all.

Posted by: BaltimoreBuc | December 3, 2010 5:06 PM | Report abuse

Maryland should consider the Hunger Bowl. A match up with Boise State would attract significant national attention and I bet BSU would love to see MD instead of BC as well. I agree with the last post. If they can participate in a BCS bowl why not the Hunger Bowl.

Posted by: hateisnotafamilyvalue | December 3, 2010 5:07 PM | Report abuse

Its not even a question of boycotting the game. It is on a Wednesday afternoon at 2pm. The students are all gone for the break and is it actually expected that people should take a day off from work in the middle of the week to see a meaningless game against a relatively uncared about team from C-USA in Southeast DC?

This is not about fans. It's about a corrupt system. What happens next year if MD goes 10-2 but still finishes 3rd behind FSU and Va Tech? Do they take an 8-4 or 7-5 NS State or Miami because of the appeal. The BCS and the bowls claim what they do is based on merit but we all know it this is the greatest perpetrated lie.

Posted by: Selby64 | December 3, 2010 5:09 PM | Report abuse

It makes me sad to see this just like it made me sad to see everyone abandon Friedgen last year. I've been a Maryland fan for a long time and I know how bad it was between Bobby Ross and the Fridge. I hope the Fridge stays as long as he wants and that people stop acting stupid about Maryland Football. I live in California now and live and breath Maryland sports. I wish I could go to the bowl game. I hope someone goes in my place. Next year how about everyone fills Byrd on Saturdays. I'm not sure if you noticed but Danny O'Brian is a heckuva QB and the Terps are going nowhere but up with him at the helm. Fear the Turtle!

Posted by: jeffterpsfan | December 3, 2010 5:10 PM | Report abuse

Excellent, well written op-ed by Russ.

In terms of the parting question, I have more questions:
Do all studenst start that early or just athletes? Its been many years but I thought Spring semester (whatta misnomer) started in late january. I think that might be EP inflammatory logic.

Regards -

-hgr

Posted by: HughGRection | December 3, 2010 5:13 PM | Report abuse

Even if they win 3 more, it's time to show Friedgen the door. For whatever reason, the coach just isn't effective.

Posted by: epdaly | October 17, 2010 1:51 PM | Report abuse

Hopefully Friedgen will be a distant memory by 2011.

Posted by: epdaly | January 26, 2010 10:28 PM

Yes, I still contend 'fans' like epdaly are not helpful to the Maryland program. And yes, I still contend we aren't headed to the Military Bowl.

But by all means, epdaly, keep hoping that our ACC Coach of the Year is a 'distant memory by 2011'. Moron.

Posted by: Barno1 | December 3, 2010 5:13 PM | Report abuse

Maryland has just released its 2010 football schedule.

Sept. 6 Navy (M&T Bank Stadium in Baltimore)
Sept. 11 Morgan State
Sept. 18 at West Virginia
Sept. 25 Florida International
Oct. 2 Duke
Oct. 16 at Clemson
Oct. 23 at Boston College
Oct. 30 Wake Forest
Nov. 6 at Miami
Nov. 13 at Virginia
Nov. 20 Florida State
Nov. 27 North Carolina State

It's never too early for predictions, so leave yours in the comments.

By Matt Bonesteel | February 4, 2010; 2:40 PM ET

4-8. Bring on Mike Leach

Posted by: epdaly | February 4, 2010 5:06 PM | Report abuse

Nice prediction from the world's number 1 super fan EPDALY

Posted by: Barno1 | December 3, 2010 5:15 PM | Report abuse

Maybe retaining Friedgen and striving for 7-5 in the weak ACC next year isn't exactly a compelling reason to get on board with this program.

Posted by: epdaly | December 2, 2009 8:04 PM | Report abuse

Proof positive that epdaly isn't the kind of fan this program needs. The guy who not only is never a threat to buy season tickets, but mocks the school's attempts to get more people on board with the program by saying "keeping Fridge" is the problem.

Dude, why don't you just admit that you're a clueless imbecile who thought keeping the best coach in the league was the real reason people don't buy tickets?

Just say it: "I, epdaly, have no idea what I'm talking about when it comes to UMD football. I am an idiot for calling for the ACC Coach of the Year to be fired. And I was an even bigger imbecile for thinking the school's decision to keep him was what was hurting season ticket sales'.

Come on Epdaly, just say it.

Posted by: Barno1 | December 3, 2010 5:19 PM | Report abuse

Russtinator, well done. You expressed my thoughts with less 'vigor' than I would have done.

I have been going to the bowls, home games and occassional road games for 25 years (Miami this year) and I will go to RFK if that is where Maryland ends up. I will drive there from MoCo, tailgate in the parking lot, drive home and spend very little $$ on-site. Not an ideal supporter from the bowl officials perspective. On the flip side I have multi-day hotel and car reservations in Orlando, Nashville, Charlotte, and even El Paso just waiting to be used. One friend already has airline tickets to a couple of those cities in anticipation. I do believe Maryland travels pretty well, how many of our alumni are scattered around the US (especially Fla) and not within easy reach of CP? NCSt's fans certainly didn't flood Maryland over the holiday weekend when so much was a stake. They had their band there (taking up some of the visitors section) and yet didn't not 'take over' or otherwise show their presence despite a 'lackluster' home crowd. To my eyes (and ears) FSU fans had a much better showing at Byrd than NCSt.

Posted by: statjax | December 3, 2010 5:21 PM | Report abuse

epdaly: if you really thought keeping Friedgen was the reason ticket sales were down, A) you're an idiot and B) turn in your Terrapin Club card right now for making such a retarded statement.

Posted by: jj94_Terp | December 3, 2010 5:22 PM | Report abuse

Love it when barno quotes these buffoons and their buffoonish comments. EAT THE CROW epdaly AND TELL US HOW IT TASTES!

Posted by: terp4lifer | December 3, 2010 5:30 PM | Report abuse

Excellent, well written op-ed by Russ.

In terms of the parting question, I have more questions:
Do all studenst start that early or just athletes? Its been many years but I thought Spring semester (whatta misnomer) started in late january. I think that might be EP inflammatory logic.

Regards -

-hgr

Posted by: HughGRection | December 3, 2010 5:13 PM | Report abuse

The winter term starts on January 3, 2011 and ends on January 21, 2011. A lot of athletes take classes during the winter and summer sessions, because they do not typically interfere with their sports, so they can get ahead, or at least catch up from only being able to take 12 credits during the semester during which their sport takes place. However, the winter and summer terms are much more intensive than classes during the normal semester (a 3-credit course meets every day of the week for 2 hours), so missing even one day of class could put a student far behind. I understand the point about classes, but it doesn't seem to be a problem if they're going to a BCS bowl. It's hard to tell from the statement whether the school's not interested in the Fight Hunger Bowl or if it's Prisbell.

Posted by: Russtinator | December 3, 2010 5:30 PM | Report abuse

Viva vinny!

Posted by: epdaly | December 3, 2010 5:32 PM | Report abuse

Amen jj94. Though I seriously doubt epdaly actually "donates" to the school. He's just some loser who can't deal with the fact that his quotes from earlier this year make him look like a total idiot, so he lashes out at me for bringing them up.

Posted by: Barno1 | December 3, 2010 5:32 PM | Report abuse

IMO ticket sales are down for a combination of the reasons previously stated. Economy, weak home slate (next year will be better), 2-10 season, coaches in turmoil, questions at QB (answered emphatically), OL and DL, pro sports battling for decreasing disposable income etc. How did Terrapin Club donations go? I don't know but the big money boosters, in general, still support Ralph. Personally I thought he should have been canned mainly for the recruiting gaffes that left a 2 year hole in the lines that helped us to our record the last couple of years. Now I am in wait and see mode, game management and half-time adjustments are still concerns to me calling that 4th TD pass to Torrey shocked me. I fully expected 3 running plays and a punt.

Posted by: statjax | December 3, 2010 5:35 PM | Report abuse

Russtinator, it's not the school. I think it's Prisbell.

Posted by: terp4lifer | December 3, 2010 5:37 PM | Report abuse

Why do they have to play at RFK? Is Nationals Park being used that weekend? Like a wedding or barmitzvah? If we do get the Prisbell Bowl, it's not just the fact that it's against ECU, it's not that it's local. It's that it's at RFK which is old and decrepit. If Nats Park can't be used, how about Byrd Stadium, since this is a glorified home game.

Only if they played at Byrd, only half the stadium would be filled...

Posted by: ecglotfelty | December 3, 2010 5:40 PM | Report abuse

I'm certainly eating crow this season. I can't wait to one day bounce my grandchildren on my lap and tell them about that magical ride the 2010 Terps took to the military bowl.

Let's just get a ruling from the superfan hall of justice here. The team should be good next year, right? Do I have a right to be disappointed if the team doesn't win the division?

Posted by: epdaly | December 3, 2010 5:42 PM | Report abuse

UMD does travel well when it comes to heading south for sure. The media and bowl chairpeople tend to look at most recent history of the last bowl games, but a 10 year look shows how well the fans traveled to Miami, Georgia, and Jacksonville. My friends and I were at 2 of the 3. BTW, anyone who has not attended a single game or a bowl game the past 5 years should not bother posting about this topic - yer outta here!

Posted by: terptek | December 3, 2010 5:43 PM | Report abuse

"Its not even a question of boycotting the game. It is on a Wednesday afternoon at 2pm. The students are all gone for the break and is it actually expected that people should take a day off from work in the middle of the week to see a meaningless game against a relatively uncared about team from C-USA in Southeast DC?"

That's my problem with the bowl. It was actually more attractive when it was before Christmas. It was kind of a kickoff to the bowl season, and was on a day that a lot of people were already off. This year it's on a day no one gets off without having to take vacation. It's one thing to tell your boss, I'm taking a trip to Florida/Nashville/Shreveport so I need a couple of days off. It's different to tell your boss, I'm taking the day off to go to a football game down the street. Another problem is that it's in the middle of the day (14:30), which means everyone is going home in rush hour, and the teams and fans will have to deal with the changing conditions that come with a game that will overlap with twilight--the first quarter could be bright and sunny, while the 4th quarter could be cold and dark. Finally, it's in a terrible stadium that is not even worthy of one of the worst teams currently in Major League Soccer. There's no excuse that this bowl game is not played in Nats Park or even FedEx. RFK is a dump, and there's nothing nostalgic about a rapidly decaying stadium that has not been properly maintained for 15 years, and cannot serve hot concessions.

Not only that, but the morons at the Military Bowl are charging $90 a seat in the lower bowl, and $55 to sit in the upper deck ($25 a seat in the upper deck end zones). $55 is more than it cost for my lower bowl ticket through the Terrapin Club for the Navy game at M&T, and they want me to spend twice as much for a comperable seat in a crumbling stadium. The "best" bowl (Chick fil-a in the comfy, climate-controlled Georgia Dome) only costs $80 per seat, while Champs is $65. Heck I can sit in the lower bowl of a modern NFL stadium for $75 (Charlotte) or $60 (Nashville) for those bowl games. The Military Bowl is a CROCK!

Posted by: Russtinator | December 3, 2010 5:54 PM | Report abuse

We'll see where the Terps play on Sunday night or Monday morning. Despite the blog writer Prisbell injecting his negative opinions for weeks (I wonder what ax he has been grinding), and the blogger's attempt to discount the Maryland football program, Maryland will thrive in whatever bowl it plays. O'Brien is a good QB, Ralph is a great coach, Torrey Smith is a great receiver, and the team has done VERY well this year. So any bowl is a good bowl, just win the thing. As far as the bowl execs go, I'll reserve judgement until next week, but suffice it to say they definitely are all about the money - it isn't a charitable act. I would also offer that Maryland can settle this next year by winning the ACC championship. Wherever Maryland plays I will be cheering them on. As far as Prisbell is concerned, I'm off to the Baltimore Sun, at least they are less cynical than the amateur blogger at the WaPo.

Posted by: bfjam | December 3, 2010 6:08 PM | Report abuse

As far as Prisbell is concerned, I'm off to the Baltimore Sun, at least they are less cynical than the amateur blogger at the WaPo.

Posted by: bfjam | December 3, 2010 6:08 PM |

BFJ -

But the posters in the comments section of the Sun are lame compared to this lot. I've enjoyed Barno vs. epdaly tremendously today. And Prisbell manages to push everyone's collective buttons on close to a daily basis.

Could not find a picture of the poster of Lesly (correct spelling) Brown Sajak for the life of me. Does anyone else remember it?

Regards -

-hgr

Posted by: HughGRection | December 3, 2010 6:16 PM | Report abuse

Long time Terp fan/supporter/season ticket holder/MGN member...

Attended Gator, Champs and Emerald Bowls...

Ain't no way I'm shelling out $90 for RFK, but will attend any other Bowl possibility, including SanFran...

Is AD Anderson earning his salary????

Posted by: MerlinTerps | December 3, 2010 6:16 PM | Report abuse

epdaly, how are they going to win the division next year with such an "ineffective" head coach?

Posted by: Barno1 | December 3, 2010 6:21 PM | Report abuse

Barny...I often wonder how you cut and paste with those big purple paws? of yours...now your paranoia has caught up with you as you blame everyone else for UMDs bowl situation....wallow in your misery...I am actually excited about the DC bowl, if it comes to pass, because now in addition to a bball game, we will get attend a bowl game also...(so there are at least 4 more tix that will be sold)


If it happens that DC is the destination, there is no sense crying about it...fan sentiment doesnt change overnight and this team (with Fridge at the helm) didnt generate the type of excitement that brings in tons of fans until perhaps the last game of the season...rolling over FIU, Wake, Duke, and Morgan isnt going to do it...hate on me if you wish, but deep down you are angry because its true...even pro teams need to win to put butts in the seats...like it or not UMD has gone winning -losin - winning- losing- winning - losing - winning over the last 7 years

Fridge now has the wind at his back with COY, DOB, winning season, hopefully a bowl victory and a tough schedule next year with quality home games....If he is going to make the move from average to great, he will have to do it in 2011....tix sales will improve based upon this years results and will get better if the team rolls next year

I may even start to like him again if he can demonstrate some momentum ..but that would take a good chunk of fun out of this board

In the meantime, please DO NOT post anything here that will give me a clue about where you will be sitting at the game...I dont want to be tempted

Posted by: TerpfanMA | December 3, 2010 6:23 PM | Report abuse

HGR...yes I remember...I thing they either live or lived in Severna Park

Posted by: TerpfanMA | December 3, 2010 6:25 PM | Report abuse

As a longtime season ticket holder (lifetime donor for mezzanine seats), a fan that’s attended every bowl game of the RF era, and a fan that makes VERY large donations to the TC, if it’s the Military Bowl or staying home for the Terps, I sincerely hope they stay home. I know the argument for extra practice and exposure for recruiting, but that bowl has a negative value for recruiting and staying home has the great advantage of embarrassing the ACC (if done properly and VERY publicly). I would take embarrassing the ACC over a trip to almost any bowl.

Posted by: BigDog1231 | December 3, 2010 6:26 PM | Report abuse

We buy season tickets every year and go to the games. That said, the game day experience could be dramatically improved. The scoreboard blares loudest possible commercials and announcements in lowest-fidelity sound (100 db), and the band is not allowed to play while the scoreboard blares on during the time outs. That takes away from the Saturday image we all have of the games. You have no remote clicker at the games to turn off the scoreboard, and forget about holding a conversation with friends and family. The replay screen is low-def. The games are 3 1/2 hours and the bench seats get really hard after an hour or so, especially in the cold. The food is not really tolerable. Yeah, I know--excuses. We go anyway.

Posted by: EdDC | December 3, 2010 6:27 PM | Report abuse

For all the hot air on this board, we should have a running tally of the regulars as well as any others wishing to participate.

I would love to see a running tally of who is going to the bowl game if the Terps get into a. the Champs Bowl; b. The Military Bowl; and c. The Music City Bowl.

I will be at Champs or Military. All of you - put up or shut up...

PS - And we DO travel well - see 2001, 2002, 2003, 2006 and 2007 bowl games... the case against the Terps is media inflammation of this season's attendance - those fans that should be filling up the rest of the stadium won't be traveling anyway...

Posted by: terptek | December 3, 2010 6:31 PM | Report abuse

I'm with you BigDog...though I still don't see us being Military Bowl bound while every major sports publication in the country has us going elsewhere (except for the writer of this blog).

Posted by: Barno1 | December 3, 2010 6:32 PM | Report abuse

To my fellow Maryland fans griping about likely ending up in the Military Bowl and saying they won't go, I have four words for you: You people are ignorant.

Like it or not, Maryland fans didn't instill much enthusiasm among bowl reps with the regular season attendance at Byrd Stadium. Complain about the schedule, so what? This was a team that bounced back from a struggling year, played hard and might have gone 9-3 or even 10-2 with a break or two. Instead, you believe you're inherently worthy of an invitation. Sorry, but until you prove you have a football culture in College Park, this is what you get.

If you can legitimately make the Military Bowl but choose not to go (and please, don't cite RFK as a reason!), you don't deserve to be called a Maryland fan. Go back to basketball, but forget about bringing the Terps to the next level. (And this does nothing to enhance Maryland's chances of entering the Big Ten, though I sense that many of you wouldn't want Maryland to gain that conference's athletic, academic and financial advantages because you'd lose your precious basketball home-and-home with Duke.)

Posted by: VPaterno | December 3, 2010 6:33 PM | Report abuse

BigDog1231- If the school (AD Anderson) has some serious stones, UMD will do that 4 the Military bowl. It's a disgrace that bowl games are more beauty pageants after the big games are set up. If that power structure were broken up, not too many people would care...crocodile tears would flow!

Posted by: terptek | December 3, 2010 6:34 PM | Report abuse

terptek, that is funny..i was just about to pose the same question.

AS for me, I will go wherever the Terps are this bowl season.

Posted by: Barno1 | December 3, 2010 6:34 PM | Report abuse

Barno1,

I read a lot of posts and post occasionally. But there's one thing I know - you put your money where your mouth is. You may not carry Terp pom poms and give generally "fair" insights and opinions. At least you're not a waffler like a lot of two faced bi-polar posters on this board.

BTW- U love to save old posts. I was on record for 8-4 on the Bill Rowlan show before the Navy game - I based it partly on the guys' goals they set with Fridge this year (saw it on the weekly Comcast Terps segment - 7-5 was their achievable goal - mission accomplished in the true sense of the phrase!

Posted by: terptek | December 3, 2010 6:40 PM | Report abuse

BigDog1231- If the school (AD Anderson) has some serious stones, UMD will do that 4 the Military bowl. It's a disgrace that bowl games are more beauty pageants after the big games are set up. If that power structure were broken up, not too many people would care...crocodile tears would flow!

Posted by: terptek | December 3, 2010 6:34 PM |

We may find out exactly how big his stones are on Sunday. For those of you that don't quite understand, there already is and will be much internal and external pressure to turn down a bid to the DC Bowl.

Posted by: BigDog1231 | December 3, 2010 6:42 PM | Report abuse

PS petecard said the bandwagon would burn up earlier this season - bi-polar #1 -add to the long list!

Posted by: terptek | December 3, 2010 6:42 PM | Report abuse

I agree that Ralph would probably prefer to turn down Military bowl, but in the end he will likely let the players decide...and the bet here is they would say yes. Why? Because it's a chance for a 9th win and a top 25 ranking.

Posted by: Barno1 | December 3, 2010 6:46 PM | Report abuse

BigDog1231 - U and I know that for sure - I'm sure you've heard the grousing going on from the inside. I hope they back it up - we showed good at the Champs bowl last time. Their memories should not be so short. Like I said, the extra crowd flow missing this year most likely wouldn't attend a bowl game anyway.

Posted by: terptek | December 3, 2010 6:47 PM | Report abuse

Forget the fans boycotting the game. Maryland should just decline, and get ready for next season. Why risk the injuries? Blowing out ECU? Rice did that. Navy hung 76 on them. A strong case can be made that ECU is the worst of any team bowling this year (nothing against CUSA...I'd love to see MD play a very good UCF and O'Leary). I see nothing Maryland gains from playing in this, except for some of the NFL-bound players getting a chance to show off their skills. Even that wouldn't be particularly impressive given what other offenses have done to ECU. Torrey, Tate and others will have plenty of opportunities to do that in the combines.

I highly doubt this decision has much to do with this years attendance...it's just been a convenient excuse. This bowl was created a couple of years ago specifically for Maryland. Meineke and Music City have never had, and never will have any interest in taking them so the ACC carved out a bottom feeder bowl down the road from Byrd to stick them in if they got 6 or more wins. Maryland got out of this in 2008 with the exam excuse but it won't work forever. The ACC execs will make sure they get put in this bowl every year unless they win the ACC. Any slip up to FSU or Clemson and they'll be back in it again next year.

While it's great to hope Maryland just runs the table next year and avoids this replay, its an unrealistic scenario even with the promising signs ahead. The selection this year is also likely to stunt any future growth when recruits see that this is Maryland's annual fate.

Personally I've always felt lousy seeing quality Boston College teams go to lower tier ACC bowls, including 2006 when they kicked our butts and we went to Orlando and they went to Charlotte. But to send an 8-4 team 10 miles down the road to play a 6-6 C-USA team trumps any of those snubs. At 7-5, with no quality wins, this would be a good opportunity to build for next year. At 8-4 and beating a good ranked team in the last game, I say the decision to put Maryland in this bowl warrants an "up yours" to the ACC.

Posted by: ferraridoug | December 3, 2010 6:50 PM | Report abuse

Barno1 - you are right Barno1 - that is why this could be the $64k question - ultimately they will go to wax whomever they play there...

Posted by: terptek | December 3, 2010 6:50 PM | Report abuse

My comments are mostly meant for my fellow Baltimore area Terp fans as I consider the Washington area Terp fans weak in character. Fill RFK with all red. Great idea. So we're going to make a statement at a game no one is watching? The only message we need to send is to our new A.D. The only person to blame if the Terps are offered and accept a bid to RFK is our new A.D. If this occurs the only person that should be looking for a new job is our new A.D.

If you want to send a message, do as I did: log onto the MD ticket site and fill out your application for tickets, but don't choose the Military Bowl as an option. You have this choice! Support the Terps, but not this bowl. Afterwards, let the A.D. know that he needs to start looking at a new Conference. Please note the the two squads participating in the ACC Championship Game (FSU & VPI) each field teams in 16 Varsity Sports. Maryland has 27 and like UNC and Duke are the only national athletic brands in this conference. We waited 13 years in Baltimore to replace the Colts. It was accomplished by not caving to the NFL by supporting the DeadSkins. Show some backbone. DO NOT SUPPORT THE MILITARY BOWL! THERE'S MORE AT STAKE HERE THAN JUST THIS SEASON!

Posted by: Terps85 | December 3, 2010 6:56 PM | Report abuse

I will say it again.

Relax. We are not going to the Military Bowl.

And jpfterps.....Not buying a ticket b/c I refuse to go to that bowl. Not only are the prices and date outrageous, but my attendance would only been seen as supporting the farce that is NCAA football and the BCS. I'd rather, and will, give my money to College Basketball at the Comcast Center watching Jordan Williams and the rest of the Terps Bball team dropping dimes on North Florida.

So people can view it as not supporting the Terps. I could care less. I look at it as not supporting the sham of a system College Football has set up.

Posted by: fushezzi | December 3, 2010 7:03 PM | Report abuse

(And this does nothing to enhance Maryland's chances of entering the Big Ten, though I sense that many of you wouldn't want Maryland to gain that conference's athletic, academic and financial advantages because you'd lose your precious basketball home-and-home with Duke.)

Posted by: VPaterno

Penn State might want to shoot better than 20% before thinking they are a D1 basketball team.

Posted by: ferraridoug | December 3, 2010 7:04 PM | Report abuse

I remember the Lesly Brown Sajak poster. I think she was on it with her twin sister. I think it was around 1990 or 1991.

Posted by: jeffterpsfan | December 3, 2010 7:54 PM | Report abuse

I have season tickets (Section 21 Represent!) and there is no way I'm going to the Military Bowl.

The Bowl system is ridiculous, and the Military Bowl is particularly ridiculous for being so fired up to take a school whose players, coaches and fans have made no secret don't want to be there. Where exactly do they expect these big ticket sales to come from? WE DON'T WANT TO GO! It is a crappy game 10 miles away, and the main reason given for Maryland fans to buy tickets is this emotional blackmail.

Right now, I wish there was no Military Bowl at all. At least then the Terrapins would get to go somewhere different, not a game in D.C. against a gimmicky joke of a 6-6 team.

Posted by: bermanator34 | December 3, 2010 8:13 PM | Report abuse

wow, that will be really disappointing if true... I've been a season ticket holder for the last 9 years (after graduating) and of course I'll be at RFK (actually might be nostalgic, we can chant "We Want Duke" or maybe "We Want Sunshine" but I really think we should be in Orlando...

BTW, RFK is without a doubt a lesser facility then the newly renovated Byrd, why not just play the damn game at our real home?

Posted by: terp51 | December 3, 2010 8:16 PM | Report abuse

This sucks. The whole system is set up to keep the "haves" and the "have nots" where they are. No football culture in CP? Maybe that's an effect of these situations, not a cause.

I'm a season ticket holder, but I won't be blackmailed into taking a day off work to pay too much to go to a crappy game.

Posted by: someguy100 | December 3, 2010 8:41 PM | Report abuse

I agree that Ralph would probably prefer to turn down Military bowl, but in the end he will likely let the players decide...and the bet here is they would say yes. Why? Because it's a chance for a 9th win and a top 25 ranking.

Posted by: Barno1 | December 3, 2010 6:46 PM | Report abuse

In an interview with the Junkies this week, Fridge came out and said it would be really difficult to motivate the team to play in the Military Bowl. The game is a trap waiting to happen (low attendance bolstering arguments that the Terps don't "travel," a 6-6 team from a lower level conference that's got nothing to lose, and a team that's going to be hard to motivate playing a "reward" game less than 10 miles from home). I would wholeheartedly support the school if they did indeed turn down the invitation.

Posted by: Russtinator | December 3, 2010 8:50 PM | Report abuse

I'm a long time season ticket holder (1981), actually attended games since the 1950's (with my dad) and I've contributed to the Terrapin Club since it's inception. I don't understand the anti - Eric Prisbell comments and I appreciate the effort he puts into the blog. I suspect there is a tremendous amount of frustration about the bowl selection process and it's being turned against Eric. Why? Do you really think he influences the idiots who run these bowl games? I'm sick of the BCS and the whole bowl process but I'm glad the Terps have earned some recognition for their turn around season. Like others have noted, it is not a done deal yet so let's hope for the best and support the guys no matter where they go.

Posted by: erniegogo | December 3, 2010 8:55 PM | Report abuse

If you want to send a message, do as I did: log onto the MD ticket site and fill out your application for tickets, but don't choose the Military Bowl as an option. You have this choice! Support the Terps, but not this bowl. Afterwards, let the A.D. know that he needs to start looking at a new Conference. Please note the the two squads participating in the ACC Championship Game (FSU & VPI) each field teams in 16 Varsity Sports. Maryland has 27 and like UNC and Duke are the only national athletic brands in this conference. We waited 13 years in Baltimore to replace the Colts. It was accomplished by not caving to the NFL by supporting the DeadSkins. Show some backbone. DO NOT SUPPORT THE MILITARY BOWL! THERE'S MORE AT STAKE HERE THAN JUST THIS SEASON!

Posted by: Terps85 | December 3, 2010 6:56 PM | Report abuse

Surprisingly, or maybe not so surprising, the Military Bowl is the only one of the ticket selection application that does not have prices listed. It's almost like they don't want to tell people how much they're going to get raped to watch their team play in a substandard stadium.

Posted by: Russtinator | December 3, 2010 8:55 PM | Report abuse

I still say that unless people boycott the bowls and the BCS, we will still end up with these sham bowls for 6-6 teams and lousy sites. We need a playoff system in D-1 college football real bad. A playoff system would eliminate all this hand-wringing about where we will go for the holidays.

I don't say this just for Maryland but for other schools who deserve a shot at the title regardless of what conference they come from. Boise would still have a shot, TCU would still have a shot, Wisconsin, Ohio St, Stanford, anybody in the playoffs could still get a shot. We may get mad if we don't get in, but in every college sport with a tournament/playoff system when it's all said and done no one complains about who is the national champion or where the games are played. This would make all the regular season games meaningful.

Of course, this won't happen because people will still flock to the bowls and the BCS, and we would still get the short end of the stick...

Posted by: ecglotfelty | December 3, 2010 9:38 PM | Report abuse

I'll be at RFK. Attending supports the program, and that's what they need. It also supports DC sports and busineses. Tickets won't be expensive if you wait for cut rate ones on Groupon or StubHub.

Posted by: Kev29 | December 3, 2010 10:20 PM | Report abuse

I bet Barno shopped at Champs Sports today.

Posted by: SirPelleas | December 3, 2010 10:44 PM | Report abuse

I agree that Ralph would probably prefer to turn down Military bowl, but in the end he will likely let the players decide...and the bet here is they would say yes. Why? Because it's a chance for a 9th win and a top 25 ranking.

Posted by: Barno1

Ralph may only have to wait until Sunday for that. Zona and N. Illinois losing might put them in the top 25 in the AP.

Posted by: ferraridoug | December 3, 2010 10:47 PM | Report abuse

East Carolina beat NC State.
ECU was ahead of VT 27-21 late in 3rd Q.
ECU had UNC tied at half.
I really hope Maryland thinks ECU is a cake walk.
A real young defense, but an offense who can score on anybody in the country and yes Maryland included.
First to 50 wins......

Posted by: batemana | December 4, 2010 12:03 AM | Report abuse

Maybe if these "fans" actually spent a few dollars to go see MD at Byrd Stadium once in a blue moon, we'd have a better reputation as a school with a large fanbase and would be shoe-ins for the Citrus Bowl.

Posted by: Barno1 | December 3, 2010 3:50 PM | Report abuse

Minor point, but I have to point it out. While the champs sports bowl is played at the citrus bowl, it is not the game that was formerly called the citrus bowl. That would be the Jan 1 game called the Capital one bowl.

Posted by: H1Dynasty | December 4, 2010 12:22 AM | Report abuse

Correct H1. Technically it's played at the Citrus bowl.

Posted by: Barno1 | December 4, 2010 1:15 AM | Report abuse

We've had a rough year; lost Skip Holtz and more seniors and starting defense players than any other FBS team in the nation. New coach and staff with a completely different style of game. Yes, our defense is hurting right now but the offense is a force to be reckoned with. Some stats: ECU ranked 2 in the nation in 4th down conversions, 17th in the nation in 3rd down conversion, 5th in receptions, 7th in the nation for passing yards 6th in the nation for kickoff returns, and 22nd in the nation for total offense. Not to mention we've sold out at every game in our 57,000 seat stadium.

Posted by: ECUAlum | December 4, 2010 3:01 AM | Report abuse

1)Maryland should do everything they can to lobby for a Hunger Bowl match up against Boise State. I guarantee you Boise State would rather play the Terps than Boston College and would likely help lobby for the match up. Ralph should call both the Bowl and the Broncos right now.

2)Maryland should let the Military Bowl know today that they will respectfully decline the invite today. This puts pressure on both the ACC and Boston College to accept in Maryland's place. It also sends a loud message to the ACC offices and would really piss them off.

3)If Maryland does accept the Military Bowl invite then fans should attend. Not attending as mentioned by another post as a bold protest is brain dead. It won't work and it will just help screw the program not the ACC.

Posted by: croftonpost | December 4, 2010 6:47 AM | Report abuse

So they bowl committees basically are saying:
"If you don't come to this crappy game that your team doesn't deserve, we won't give you a good game ever".

Yay college football! Blackmailing fans is a GREAT way to expand the base!

Posted by: someguy100 | December 4, 2010 7:16 AM | Report abuse

If MD gets the Military Bowl, which I still doubt will happen, it will be because of "fans" like epdaly, TerpfanMA, sirpelleas, and of course, by far the worst fan the Unviersity of Maryland has: Petecard. These "fans" never go to games, never are a threat to buy season tickets, and don't support their school in any way, shape, or form. Instead the lob attacks like "who cares what meaningless bowl we go to, we hate our (ACC Coach of the Year) coach so much that it doesn't matter."

Maybe if these "fans" actually spent a few dollars to go see MD at Byrd Stadium once in a blue moon, we'd have a better reputation as a school with a large fanbase and would be shoe-ins for the Citrus Bowl.

Posted by: Barno1 | December 3, 2010 3:50 PM

I am so honored. By the way Barno, missed you at MSG for the games against Pitt and Illinois. The fact that I live in NY should not matter. I should travel to MD regularly just to be in your company. But that doesn't matter. What does is that you get to define who a real fan is. You get to characterize posters based on their criticisms and ignore the positive things they say. McCarthy would have loved you. So would a group of fascists that tries to conquer Europe in the 40's. The only pleasure I get from the Terps missing out on the Champs Bowl is that it drives you nuts. Now that is fun. I do hope they get to go to Orlando, even if Barny isn't a Disney character.

By the way, we have an important game with Temple tomorrow in BB and there hasn't been a single post from WaPo on this. Liz, where are you?

Posted by: petecard | December 4, 2010 8:50 AM | Report abuse

True story: I went to the ECU football site to see who ECU played this season, but thought I mistakingly got their basketball scores. So I clicked out and tried football, but got the same results. Oh, they were the football scores. Duh. Guess ECU is a little weak in their defense, but it could be a wild game if the Terps drop to the 8th ACC slot.

By the way, if the bowl committees determine which team is in what slot, why do they bother with the regular season?

Posted by: EdDC | December 4, 2010 9:01 AM | Report abuse

Ed DC wrote:
By the way, if the bowl committees determine which team is in what slot, why do they bother with the regular season?

Answer: To eliminate 4 teams (or like this year 3).

Posted by: statjax | December 4, 2010 9:27 AM | Report abuse

I know many of us did not care for Yow, but she would have negotiated the Terps to Orlando.

Posted by: todd24 | December 4, 2010 9:32 AM | Report abuse

One other thing I would like to add. Records should matter or there is no point in the regular season. If the NCAA and the ACC are going to let 6 win teams go to bowls then they should be relegated to the last slots available. It's only fair and right now not doing so is the real problem here. Clemson and Georgia Tech EARNED the right to play in the Military Bowl and they are the teams that should be there. If Maryland were 7-5 or 6-6 I would have no problem at all with a Military Bowl invite and I would probably be excited for them. However, that is not the case and they deserve better with an 8-4 record. I realize the ACC in its' infinite wisdom recently changed the rules to allow 6-6 teams to play in the Chick-Fil-A Bowl if their conference record allowed it but the policy is seriously misguided. Personally, I think a team should not be bowl eligible unless they have 7 wins. The ACC without question is one of the villlans here. The Big 10 may not be so bad after all.

Posted by: croftonpost | December 4, 2010 9:36 AM | Report abuse

If the Terps get the Military Bowl, then it didn't matter that they beat NC State and Navy. If they had lost those key "big win" games, they would be 6-6 and headed to the Military Bowl, without any complaints from anyone, to face the 6-6 Pirates.

Posted by: EdDC | December 4, 2010 10:33 AM | Report abuse

Waiting for Liz Clarke to post something, here are my thoughts about the Temple game tomorrow:

The Temple game is pretty important, but it is a little different than was the Villanova game last year in the same BB&T event.
Last year we had won all of our early games except two in Hawaii, to Wisconsin and Cincinnati. We beat Indiana at Indiana and then faced Villanova. We lost and that was our last game against a good non-conference opponent until the NCAA tournament. I’m not including William and Mary as a good team and they beat us at home.
This year we have also won all of our early games except two. Those were both in the Garden against two very good and highly ranked teams, Pitt and Illinois. We played pretty well in both games and were in both games until the end. We also beat Penn State in State College, although they are a bad team similar to Indiana last year. Our record is 6-2 this year. It was 5-2 last year.
Temple is 4-2, with both losses coming in Orlando against Cal and Texas A&M. They just won their last game at Central Michigan. All but one game have been low scoring with the winner scoring 65 points or less. They are not as good as Villanova last year and we are playing better than we played at this time last year.
The reason this game is important is that it will give us a quality win before our conference schedule begins. That will help the team from a confidence stand point and it will help with how we are perceived nationally. But unlike last year, we have another big non-conference game in January, against Villanova on the road. In fact that week (1/9-1/15) we have a three game stretch that is awesome: at Duke, at Wake, at Villanova. We also play BC at home on 12/12. By the time we get to Duke, if we win against Temple and BC, we could be 12 and 2. That would give us a little cushion and some confidence going into that three game stretch.
Like I said, the Temple game is important.

Posted by: petecard | December 4, 2010 11:17 AM | Report abuse

Let your voice be heard. Here is the contact info for the head of the Military bowl:

Steve Beck
President & Executive Director
sbeck@militarybowl.org

Posted by: ebitda | December 4, 2010 11:20 AM | Report abuse

Isn't Steve Beck for getting the Terps? So he is probably wildly in favor of the Terps slipping to him at the 8th ACC slot, no matter what anyone says.

Apparently, this is a good lesson to the members of the football team: it doesn't matter what you do on the field, on your job, or in life. It only counts how it is spun.

Posted by: EdDC | December 4, 2010 11:46 AM | Report abuse

I sent him an email asking him to "Please don't pick Maryland. The kids have worked too hard to stay at home for a bowl game". I am sure it won't have any impact but made me feel better. Now if we could just get Prisbell to cover VT volleyball (where he belongs) I would really be happy...


Isn't Steve Beck for getting the Terps? So he is probably wildly in favor of the Terps slipping to him at the 8th ACC slot, no matter what anyone says.

Apparently, this is a good lesson to the members of the football team: it doesn't matter what you do on the field, on your job, or in life. It only counts how it is spun.

Posted by: EdDC | December 4, 2010 11:46 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: ebitda | December 4, 2010 12:03 PM | Report abuse

In an interview with the Junkies this week, Fridge came out and said it would be really difficult to motivate the team to play in the Military Bowl.


This is one of the problems I have with Fridge...He is being paid $2M per year to get them motivated to play, regardless of who, when, and where the opponent is 11 or 12 times per year....So GET IT DONE big man! And please stop whining

Posted by: TerpfanMA | December 4, 2010 12:14 PM | Report abuse

If MD goes to the Military Bowl, which I still doubt will happen, this will render the final four games of our season meaningless. We were bowl eligible after the Wake Forest game, meaning we might as well have not played the final four games against Miami, Uva, Florida St, and NC State--since if we finished 6-6 we'd be in the Military Bowl.

Still don't think it will happen, but if it does, why did we even bother playing those final four games?

Posted by: Barno1 | December 4, 2010 12:15 PM | Report abuse

Very poor attitude Barny...very poor....

Posted by: TerpfanMA | December 4, 2010 12:19 PM | Report abuse

I’m here to commend Prisbell for having the guts to stick with his story about MD going to the military bowl from the get go despite everyone calling him negative. He is the one out here covering the team and talking to the bowl reps, and he saw this coming. Good job Eric for trying your best to speak the truth.
The military bowl was a scam from the beginning. It was an obvious way for the bcs to “wash its hands” of the Atlantic teams from the eastern seaboard and the military schools who would inevitably become bowl eligible and do not have traditional powerhouse programs, from “taking up a spot” in one of the higher profile exotic bowls in desirable locations.
The military bowl is not going away. MD (along with other ACC schools and military schools) will be up against this situation every year no matter how well they do, unless they go to the ACC championship. That is what this bowl was created to do.
Let’s support the team no matter where they wind up, but we should be angry at the BCS system not Prisbell for this one.

Posted by: jpish | December 4, 2010 12:25 PM | Report abuse

If we hadn't played those games then Barny could already have started his Garo routine!

Posted by: petecard | December 4, 2010 12:29 PM | Report abuse

It is one thing to not go to the game because RFK sucks and the date/time. But, supporting the team is important. In previous years that I was unable to attend bowl games the Terps offered tickets that you could purchase to be donated to military members stationed nearby including the USS Maryland.

Also, as a member of Big Brothers/Big Sisters we could always use donated tickets for the kids in our program. I am sure they would appreciate going to a bowl game.

Posted by: garrett4 | December 4, 2010 12:35 PM | Report abuse

TerpfanMA and Petecard,

Both of you really should keep your bowl comments to yourselves. Seriously. Neither of you attended a single one of the Terps 6 home games this year, neither one of you has any plans to go to the Terps bowl game, so please stop commenting on the bowl selection. Frankly, it's none of your business where the Terps go because you didn't support this team one iota this season. Don't try to jump on the bandwagon now.

Posted by: Barno1 | December 4, 2010 12:42 PM | Report abuse

That's a great point, garret4. That's what I will do this year if we go to the Military Bowl. If anyone becomes aware of a site one can go to donate tickets to military personnel, please post it.

Posted by: petecard | December 4, 2010 12:44 PM | Report abuse

Military Bowl website has a section, but the Terps might have their own military donation that would count for their sales.

Posted by: garrett4 | December 4, 2010 12:53 PM | Report abuse

petecard you are so full of crap it's not even funny. cant wait to see barnos take. does anyone really believe this scum of the earth is actually going to buy tickets for military personel? OVIOUSLY he is trying to get people to like him on here by pretendng he's going to buy tickets for military personel. I'm gald garrett posted this info, but let's not kid ourselves. Not in a million bazillion years would i believe that waste of life PETECARD ever do something meaningful like that. just go away already!

Posted by: this_guy | December 4, 2010 1:39 PM | Report abuse

Pete,

Here are my b-ball thoughts since Liz Clarke seems to be asleep at the wheel:

J-Will: You can't ask any more from him. He is living up to expectations, and then some, EXCEPT for free throws.

Dino Gregory: He is one of the seniors that needed to step, and he has. My current pet peeve is that nobody has noticed that Dino can consistently knock down a mid-range jumper. This is huge because teams have to limit how much they cheat off of Dino to account for J-Will.

Mosley: He has been chucking bricks and therefore has been looking bad. However, his +/- numbers still look good, which suggest that he does a lot of intangibles that don't show up on the stat sheet. We need more offensive production from Mosley.

Tucker: Another senior who needed to step up his game, and has. However, he is still good for a few knucklehead plays per game, but plays very good defense and is a legit scoring threat. Sort of on the level of GV his junior year.

Bowie: His inconsistency is causing GW to use the frosh PGs more than he would like. He has been very good sometimes, but we have also struggled to establish a smooth half-court offense.

Stogs and Pe'Shon: They are as good as expected. Both have an uncanny knack for scoring. However, they are still learning the system. They appear to work hard, listen and seems to be smart. They are just inexperienced at running the flex offense.

Between Bowie's inconsistency and the frosh PGs inexperience, PG is our weakest spot. However, it is still better than a lot of teams in the ACC.

Padge and Weis: Look to be the first two front court players aff the bench. There is a drop off from Gragory and J-Will, but both seem adequate and Padge seems to be rapidly imporoving. Wies has been a nice PUCO pick-up.

Originally, I had pegged this team to finsih 2-4 in the league. I am beginning to think that #2 behind Duke is there for the taking after watching some of the over-hyped teams play (NC St and UNC).

Temple plays really solid defense, but struggles mightily on offense. If MD can fluster them with the press and get points in transitiion, then MD should be okay. If we play every possession in a half-court syle on both ends, both teams will struggle to score 50 points and it will looks like 1950's Big 10 basketball.

Posted by: larry31 | December 4, 2010 1:42 PM | Report abuse

Like congressional politics, It's ALL ABOUT THE MONEY. It's absurd to blame Eric Prisbell for our poor bowl picture. And UMd cannot afford to subsidize FB more than it already does. We gotta live with it, damn it.

Posted by: AncientTerp | December 4, 2010 2:01 PM | Report abuse

Pete, I think our fan status has been revoked by Barny.....The little purple dinosaur has decided that its not enough to see UMD games when they are in your area, but you must actually see them in Comcast or Byrd....

Where can I return my Terp headcovers, sweatshirt and mailbox?

Posted by: TerpfanMA | December 4, 2010 2:46 PM | Report abuse

TerpfanMA,

A number of people have asked you on here if you actually went to the BC game...fushezzi being one of them. You repeatedly ignored them (wonder why) and now expect us to believe you actually went to that game? Hah! Sorry dude, people are dumb but not that dumb. I can't fathom you actually paying money to see, let along root, for the Terps.

And yes, if you don't go to any of the home games and help our attendance numbers AND you don't support the team and constantly bash them, then yes--you're not a real fan. You're not a fan at all.

There are plenty of MD fans who can't make it to our games for one reason or another, but most of them don't go on blogs attacking our ACC Coach of the Year with vicious insults and demand that he be fired.

You and Petecard are a joke.

You're not a fan, change your ridiculous screen name Terp"fan"MA.

Posted by: Barno1 | December 4, 2010 3:07 PM | Report abuse

Barny..you have been on record here many times insulting Krivak, Duffner and Vanderlinden...do you classify yourself as "not a fan" during that 15 year period?

Additionally, you said that you would stop supporting the football program if they made JF head coach? Are then not a fan?

And, yeah, I went to the UMD / BC game and indicated at least twice on here that I did...I dont need to keep repeating or justifying my support for UMD to anyone including yourself?

What level TC member are you? How much did you give to UMD last year?

Are you going to answer or ignore these questions?

Posted by: TerpfanMA | December 4, 2010 3:18 PM | Report abuse

Sorry Crofton Boy, you're the only one that's braindead. You have no right to complain if you wind up supporting this lame bowl. The only thing you would do is enforce the bad behavior. I hope you have no interaction with children. If you are attracted to people, places and things that rip you off and artificially limit your rights and freedom of choice, you might try Cuba, and/or Iran. The Military Bowl sucks. We should not support the team if they choose to accept the bid, and we should all seriously question the leadership at a public University that would even consider such an option. Terp fans deserve better and should demand better. This would be a poor start for Loh and Anderson. This football fan will be watching the Ravens tonight, but you DeadSkin fans that surely will be attending the BB&T this evening to check out the Terps should express your displeasure with Anderson this evening by booing him at the Verizon Center. I think Anderson has spent too much time with the military. It's the UNIVERSITY of Maryland. At any University, one should always question authority.

Posted by: Terps85 | December 4, 2010 3:23 PM | Report abuse

Punishing the seniors that busted their butts with an empty stadium, is not a way to voice frustration with the bowl process.

Posted by: garrett4 | December 4, 2010 3:42 PM | Report abuse

I actually think the fans would travel well to Orlando because many of the "holdouts" would see that this year was a success and you can't go wrong with a winter trip to Florida.

I had a great time and there were tons of fans at the Champs bowl in 2006. Still holding out hope for Champs.....and a VT loss.

Posted by: garrett4 | December 4, 2010 3:45 PM | Report abuse

Terps85,

If you have been paying attention to the other posts here then you are aware that most agree with me not you. Further, your immature meandering rant solidifies my statement concerning your intelligence or lack of. What does college football have to do with the NFL? What on Earth do you know about my values. Have another Natty Boh! Nothing but love!

Posted by: croftonpost | December 4, 2010 4:05 PM | Report abuse

It's not punishing the seniors. It's about sending a message, and it would show the seniors what they can come to expect in the real world. People in the outside world have to make tough choices every day. For the long-term good of the program, the seniors should choose not to partipate in the DUMPY DC BOWL. I have supported them for four years win or lose. Now we all need to send a message and make a real stand. The seniors will come to learn that once they leave school making decisions based on moral principles becomes that much more difficult.

Posted by: Terps85 | December 4, 2010 4:14 PM | Report abuse

I love how TerpfanMA is now resorting to sticking up for Vanderlinden, Duffner, and Krivak.

Let me make this crystal clear for you TerpfanMA: You are a joke. You are either too stubborn or too stupid to admit what is clear to everyone else on here other than the idiot Petecard: you were wrong to attack Friedgen all season long and you're not a big enough man to admit it despite him receiving the ACC Coach of the Year.

Anyone with an ounce of self respect for themselves would simply stop posting after the litany of asinine comments you've posted this year--every single one of which was proven to be wrong.

Posted by: Barno1 | December 4, 2010 4:18 PM | Report abuse

Balt Sun says it is not over:

http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/sports/college/maryland_terps/blog/2010/12/bowl_situation_remains_uncertain.html

Posted by: EdDC | December 4, 2010 4:30 PM | Report abuse

Barny...you are looney and I laugh at your misery.....btw, since I attended the BC game and you did not, I was more of a fan that week than you were....LOL LOL LOL!

Beating NC State doesnt change a thing between Fridge and I...neither does COY...I have said it all along..NEXT year will be THE test for him as a coach...he may prove himself as a great coach by winning +8 games or he slip back into mediocrity with a 6 win season....him whining in the press about not being able to motivate his players to play ECU is not a great start

Posted by: TerpfanMA | December 4, 2010 4:33 PM | Report abuse

I just don't think that skipping a bowl will leave the team with the desired feeling for the offseason. It won't help recruiting and it won't help winter workouts or spring practice.

There is no way the ACC will let UMD miss out on possible revenue.

Posted by: garrett4 | December 4, 2010 4:34 PM | Report abuse

Parents of several band members are reporting that their kids who are in the band are being told to prepare to leave for Orlando on December 25th. One can only hope!

Posted by: rich263 | December 4, 2010 4:40 PM | Report abuse

The Terps should be happy to play in ANY bowl based on their record last season.
The only ACC team with a winning record they beat this season was NC State and that was at home and NC State almost came back and won.
Earlier in the season, big Ralph said he would be honored to play in the Military Bowl. now all of a sudden, he wants a raise, contract extension, and a good bowl game because he won 8 easy games??
He would have been fired last year if they could have come up with the money. he needs to shut up and be happy he has a job for 1 more year - only 1 year because their schedule is tougher and they will probably be 4-8...Military Bowl will be played in freezing temperatures with maybe 15K fans...should be fun...

Posted by: ScottDM | December 4, 2010 4:55 PM | Report abuse

Expert.

Posted by: garrett4 | December 4, 2010 5:25 PM | Report abuse

Well, you knew it was coming because we won a game last week....

COLLEGE PARK — — The attorney for Maryland's Ralph Friedgen says the football coach has earned the right to have his contract extended after next season -- an assertion that places the school in a sensitive position because it has already named Friedgen's successor.

"To me, an extension is absolutely in order," attorney Jack Reale told The Baltimore Sun. "I think he has earned it."

______________________________________

After the previous win, he was whining the in the press about bonuses and now that we beat NC State, he sends his mouthpiece out in the public to try to extort more money from the University at the same time he is publicly saying that it might be too tough for him to motivate his players to play ECU in the bowl game......

Lets see him try to string 2 consecutive good seasons together first...something he hasnt been able to do in 8 years

Posted by: TerpfanMA | December 4, 2010 5:50 PM | Report abuse

Well, I went out and played golf this afternoon and returned to more of this drivel. Terpfan as usual hits the nail on the head and Barno as usual spews venom and misrepresents everything except his own putrid pathetic self. So garrett, even an earnest comment on my part is met with abuse. Please provide a way that I can but a couple of tickets for military personnel and have that documented. Maybe I can work something out with the sponsors. It's one thing to have your fandom questioned by idiots. It's another to be dismissed as disingenuous on something as important as supporting our troops.Who are you This_guy? What kind of a creep are you?

Posted by: petecard | December 4, 2010 6:02 PM | Report abuse

HughG, Most of your commentary about the BB team I agree with, especially that PG is the biggest question mark. My view is that Stogs is much further along than Pe'Shon. I think Bowie should be coming off the bench. I was hoping you might have some comments about the importance of this game and the interesting way this year compares to last year....

Posted by: petecard | December 4, 2010 6:07 PM | Report abuse

Parents of several band members are reporting that their kids who are in the band are being told to prepare to leave for Orlando on December 25th. One can only hope!

Posted by: rich263 | December 4, 2010 4:40 PM |

Champ Sports Bowl!!!!! AWWWWWWWW YEAH!!!!

Posted by: SirPelleas | December 4, 2010 6:16 PM | Report abuse

This_guy, you are a callous jerk.

Posted by: SirPelleas | December 4, 2010 6:17 PM | Report abuse

the reason for fan apathy at UM----and I am an alum, letter winner and season football and basketball season ticket holder for 23 years(even though I didnt always live in the area) ----is simple and the fans sense it. Does the school want to be Penn or Penn St in football. Do we want to be East Carolina or North Carolina in basketball? Ever since I was a student in college park in the 70's---student/athlete I might add---UM has had an identity problem.This is self created. If you run a business, you cant have uncertainty from within--it will cause disfunction. And this is what we have had in within the UM Athletic Dept. Who are we??? I have had three coaches in my presence say that they could not understand why people at the school would try to undermine what they were doing. This is very sad. So now we have a new President and a new Athletic Director who can clearly provide definition---who are we??!!! I trust that these men will find a way to place a new upper deck in the West End Zone of Byrd Stadium and build their coaches an indoor practice facility. Then they will have given their coaches the tools they need to compete. And the message to UM fans will be clear. Of course we should be playing out of conference football games every year against Navy, WVU, and a Big Ten or SEC team. Then the message is clear--we are a big time program. I have a feeling we will be playing TENN in the Music City Bowl----and GW--who is a great coach--will have us back in the NCAA's. Just think how great we can be if the school clearly gets behind their coaches---instead of undermining them!!!!!

Posted by: beardown29 | December 4, 2010 10:26 PM | Report abuse

If the Terps get the Military Bowl, then it didn't matter that they beat NC State and Navy. If they had lost those key "big win" games, they would be 6-6 and headed to the Military Bowl, without any complaints from anyone, to face the 6-6 Pirates.

Posted by: EdDC

I would also argue that if Maryland had beaten WVU, making them 9-3, they would STILL be in this situation...aka a likely Military Bowl bid.

Posted by: ferraridoug | December 5, 2010 12:27 AM | Report abuse

So right Mr. Bear. As a kid, I remember watching MD have decent seasons, then watching in horror as they got crushed in some bowl games. Texas and Houston comes to mind. So in comes Bobby Ross, who first had to adjust the schedule because it was made up to 10 years in advance. He scheduled some better competition: games at Auburn and Michigan and a home and home with Miami. He then goes to the administration and tells them what he will need to win a national championship and they basically laugh in his face. Well he leaves and wins a title at GTech. The administration eventually left, but the thinking never changed. It always reminded me of the Capitals having the Penns in their Division, but they couldn't figure out why the Penns won Cups and they didn't even though they competed against them every year. I guess the modern equivalent in the pros are the Orioles and the Nats. And so in the interim, our lovely administration has allowed two more private schools (BC & Miami) to enter the conference and two large football schools (FSU & VPI) that don't really field a full athletic program and seem to be able to recruit and retain any football player they need. Let's hope the new guys will give Ralph the tools he needs and get the green flowing in a major way. In the end, I believe we will wind up cutting some programs or else we will have to move to another conference where we are on more comparable footing. GO TERPS! (but not to the Mickey Mouse DC Bowl).

Posted by: Terps85 | December 5, 2010 12:39 AM | Report abuse

This is a manufactured game and will be a one time game. The reason-- it will be a financial disaster--game sight--low class stadium that seats 50K--time and day of game--should be a weekend game-- the WEATHER !!!-- Steve Beck---who is he and what is his experiance in promting this bowl game?--the ACC and the sports country club guys who favor ANY TEAM SOUTH OF Uof VA. These powers that be in the ACC have for MANY YEARS favored "tobacco road" schools AND it did not change when they expanded adding V.T.,B.C. Miami (a southern school)et all. I think after this fiasco that MD.Univ. should look around for a strong conference. It helped U of Conn. and they have only been a Div. 1 program for a short time. They got a warm weather bowl game didn't they? Those so called southern gentelmen that make these picks have manufactured this so called bowl and stuckit to U. of Md. and then picked a 6/6 southern (North Carolina) team talk about "home boys". The ACC has always shown preference to those "tobacco road and Georgia peach" teams--that is the ACC history. MD. Univ. is in a no win situation and Coach Ralph and the new A.D. have REALLY got to think long and hard about how to handle this. If they go the wrong was those rednecks in North carolina, et al wil take it out on Maryland. I think --even if Md. plays the game-this bowl will not be played next year--it's a goner.

Posted by: vergens2 | December 5, 2010 5:34 AM | Report abuse

Anyone "sending a message" by skipping or boycotting the Military Bowl -- if in fact that's the one that Maryland goes to -- will be sending the wrong message...that Maryland fans have a false sense of entitlement, even coming off a dreadful 2-10 season. Sorry, but the rest of the world doesn't share that view. It perceives Maryland as a basketball-first school whose fans frankly treat football as second fiddle.

And to vergens2: I concur with you about the ACC (although the only conference I would leave it for would be the Big Ten; the Big East is a silly, low-revenue hybrid). But if you want Maryland in the Big Ten -- a conference that would substantially boost the university's athletic revenue, academic profile and research funding -- not supporting your team in a bowl game won't help matters.

Posted by: VPaterno | December 5, 2010 9:25 AM | Report abuse

Time to revisit the membership in the ACC (All Carolina Conference) question. Maryland, Boston College always going to be fringe players. And the ACC already has messed up its basketball superiority. If college sports are all about football, then wouldn't the Big Ten be a slam dunk?

Posted by: cscherf | December 5, 2010 9:33 AM | Report abuse

The Terps should be happy to play in ANY bowl based on their record last season.
The only ACC team with a winning record they beat this season was NC State and that was at home and NC State almost came back and won.
Earlier in the season, big Ralph said he would be honored to play in the Military Bowl. now all of a sudden, he wants a raise, contract extension, and a good bowl game because he won 8 easy games??
He would have been fired last year if they could have come up with the money. he needs to shut up and be happy he has a job for 1 more year - only 1 year because their schedule is tougher and they will probably be 4-8...Military Bowl will be played in freezing temperatures with maybe 15K fans...should be fun...

Posted by: ScottDM | December 4, 2010 4:55 PM | Report abuse

"The only ACC team with a winning record they beat this season was NC State and that was at home and NC State almost came back and won."

Md beat 4 teams with winning records this year, 2 of which were ACC teams. But thanks for adding more nonsense to this board.

Posted by: Barno1 | December 5, 2010 9:42 AM | Report abuse

Are there other underlying factors affecting the situation besides ticket sales? I am a UMD alum as well as a Georgia Tech parent. I have been to UMD games and also attended GT games on Parent’s Weekends and was at the last Orange Bowl (Jan 2010 GT vs. Iowa). The games I've attended at Bobby Dodd stadium although not sold out attracted good sized crowds but they were on Parent’s Weekends so no telling if that had any impact on crowd size. GT fans, however, were way outnumbered by Iowa fans at the Orange Bowl last year. With that in mind, I can’t help but wonder why Georgia Tech who was only 6-6 this year is being viewed as a better bowl prospect then MD yet I’ve read they are being courted by the Independence Bowl in Shreveport, LA. Is there something else going on besides attendance factors?

Posted by: TerpAlum | December 5, 2010 4:38 PM | Report abuse

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