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Posted at 9:39 AM ET, 12/30/2010

Morning-after links from the Military Bowl

By Matt Bonesteel

Good morning. It's the day after Ralph Friedgen's last game at Maryland, a 51-20 whipping of East Carolina in the Military Bowl. Mike Wise wrote after the game that Maryland perhaps should have waited a bit before inviting Mike Leach to campus. Leach will interview with the search committee today.

Here's a photo gallery from Wednesday's game.

Former Oregon and Kentucky coach Rich Brooks weighed in on Twitter, taking Maryland to task for firing Friedgen: "Maryland hope you like what follows. You may not like what you get after forcing a good coach and good man out. He brought your team back" (HT: EDSBS.com)

Peter Schmuck of the Baltimore Sun has a much more optimistic spin, writing: "Everything's going to be OK. The foundation that Friedgen laid during this turnaround season and the discovery of a solid young quarterback will make things a lot easier for whoever is chosen to be the new head coach."

Said East Carolina quarterback Dominique Davis, who never got the Pirates' attack going: “There's no beating around the bush. They whooped us from the first play until the end."

By Matt Bonesteel  | December 30, 2010; 9:39 AM ET
 
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Comments

I have to go back and say, once again, that Ron Vanderlinden laid the ground work for Maryland's return. Friedgen, to his credit, built upon that foundation. Both were pushed out, by different AD's.

Now, on to the next chapter. If we really have $3.5 mil to spend on the next coach, he'd better be a good one. And hopefully will take us back to the next level. Despite the 2009 disaster, it seems Friedgen, Franklin and crew have built a solid house on which to grow.

I'll also mention, with a smile, that Maryland out drew ECU (which was also well represented), NC State (which, I don't believe sold their ticket allotment) and even WVU. We drew almost as many as Alabama will to their bowl game. The myth that Maryland fans do not show, is exactly that.

Again.....we have to compete with TWO NFL teams within 30 miles of Byrd, we came off a terrible year and had a very weak home schedule.

Posted by: steven09 | December 30, 2010 10:40 AM | Report abuse

I'll take it a step farther. If you have $3.5M, you don't settle for Mike Leach. He's a solid coach but not an elite one. He took over a program that was already on solid footing and maintained it-- albeit with one exceptional year (the 10-2 Cotton Bowl loss year). No one else wants Leach, so don't overpay for him. If you are spending SEC dollars you better get an SEC coach.

Posted by: mcmelton | December 30, 2010 10:52 AM | Report abuse

Who cares what Mike Wise thinks. He's a buffoon.

Posted by: jeadpt | December 30, 2010 10:56 AM | Report abuse

He took over a program that was already on solid footing and maintained it-- albeit with one exceptional year (the 10-2 Cotton Bowl loss year). No one else wants Leach, so don't overpay for him. If you are spending SEC dollars you better get an SEC coach.

Posted by: mcmelton | December 30, 2010 10:52 AM

10-2 king of oversimplifies that season for Texas Tech. The win, with thrilling last second Crabtree TD, over Texas was one of the most exciting regular season college football games in recent memory. They beat a #1 team and rival in front of a rabid crowd on national primetime TV. Then moved up to #2 in the country. It unraveled a couple weeks later against Oklahoma, but the buzz, high profile wins and excitement seems to be exactly what the powers at be surrounding Maryland athletics hope to recreate with Leach. We'll see.

Posted by: Kev29 | December 30, 2010 11:14 AM | Report abuse

"10-2 KIND of oversimplifies that season for Texas Tech"

Sorry, fat fingers :-)

Posted by: Kev29 | December 30, 2010 11:17 AM | Report abuse

It was sad to see the physical condition of both coaches yesterday. Yikes!!!!

Posted by: fearturtle44 | December 30, 2010 11:18 AM | Report abuse

What exactly did Rich Brooks do at Oregon and Kentucky?

Posted by: ams1986 | December 30, 2010 11:24 AM | Report abuse

Mike Wise has written two beautifully one-sided opinion articles. Firedgen is a good man, good coach and has a good program but that is all it was ever going to be - good. With Friedgen in charge, MD would continue to be mediocre to good evey year. The first 3 years were great but look at the last 7 years. The last 7 years are the definition of mediocre. Yes, this whole thing was handled poorly but that doesn't mean Anderson is wrong for shooting for greatness with the program. The football program has been losing money for years and that just can't be the case at a big university like MD. A change has been warranted for at least 3 years now. I'm not saying it is right or wrong but what Anderson is trying to accomplish should not be denigrated.

Posted by: terpfan34 | December 30, 2010 11:35 AM | Report abuse

Rich Brooks actually laid the foundation at Oregon before he left for the NFL and the Rams.. Belotti and Kelly after that in Eugene.. At Kentucky, he's battling the same problem as any coach at Maryland, trying to run a football program at a basketball school..A few good years, nothing to write home about.. Just a good, veteran coach showing support for another.. Nothing wrong with that...

Posted by: frostanna | December 30, 2010 11:41 AM | Report abuse

So, upon reflection, there's not much doubt Ralph was a very good coach - everything involving the field. Where Ralph lacked as a college head coach was the less tangible recruiting and revenue generating functions.

He's a good leader of young men, and he's a fabulous offensive mind. He'll make a great OC for someone, but I don't know if he'll get a head coaching job at a major DI school again.

And if UM *really* has $3.5M to spend on a head coach, we can do better than Leach.

Posted by: kingrob76 | December 30, 2010 11:54 AM | Report abuse

How dare Mike Wise lecture ANYONE about proper behavior. Isn't this the same Mike Wise who was suspended for posting phony reports about Ben Rothlesberger? Since when did he obtain some sort of moral authority that he could make judgments about anyone?

Posted by: smitch6087 | December 30, 2010 11:54 AM | Report abuse

I wish they'd find someone other than Leach, but it appears that Kevin Plank, I mean, Mike Leach owns the job.

He might be able to trade ethics for a win or two, but not much more than that.

Posted by: Benson | December 30, 2010 12:15 PM | Report abuse

kev29 - it does "oversimplify" to a point... but if you're going to flesh out the full picture, you can't just expand on the highpoint. They also lost convincingly to an ok but not great Ole Miss team in the bowl game and dropped out of the top 10. I follow Ole Miss closely and that team had some good wins but also lost to Vandy and Wake. Also, the starting QB for Ole Miss (Jeven Snead) missed most of the 2nd half with injury.

Again - Leach is a solid coach. Some (not saying you specifically) are trying to turn him into Bear Bryant or Lombardi. I'm just saying if you're really spending $3.5 there are better options. If you are sold on Leach offer $1.8 and make the rest contigent on a conference championship.

Posted by: mcmelton | December 30, 2010 12:24 PM | Report abuse

Thank you Fridge. If there's no NC in the next 3 years, w/ DOB at QB, the AD and his "upgraded" football coaches should be fired. " Mr. Anderson, you are on the clock."

Posted by: Realness1 | December 30, 2010 12:39 PM | Report abuse

I'm also skeptical about UMD having $3.5 million allocated for the HC position. If we do then either Bud Foster or Gus Malzahn could be lured here -- both of which are better options than Leach.

Posted by: fushezzi | December 30, 2010 12:56 PM | Report abuse

Kevin Plank & Kevin Anderson...do they really think they can turn Univ. Maryland (a Basketball school 1st-always)into University of Nike @ Oregon /East Coast clone w/Under Armour leading the way? Mike Leach? Really? Now there is a quality-character guy that Mr. Anderson can point to w/pride. Kevin anderson is clearly in over his head already & this entire Friedgen saga has been a total embarrassment - the man has been here 15 minutes and already this Athletic Department is mess. MD decides to hire the AD from Army? Now that makes sense as they (Army) are a big time program w/similiar complex issues that Maryland experiences... Plus Army has a football model that Maryland would want to get insight on...

Posted by: Zipfutbol | December 30, 2010 1:05 PM | Report abuse

Kevin Plank & Kevin Anderson...do they really think they can turn Univ. Maryland (a Basketball school 1st-always)into University of Nike @ Oregon /East Coast clone w/Under Armour leading the way? Mike Leach? Really? Now there is a quality-character guy that Mr. Anderson can point to w/pride. Kevin Anderson is clearly in over his head already & this entire Friedgen saga has been a total embarrassment - the man has been here 15 minutes and already this Athletic Department is a total mess. I'm surprised AD Anderson didn't have Coach Leach at The Military Bowl in an Under Armour press Box... MD decides to hire the AD from Army? Now that makes sense as they (Army) are a big time program w/similiar complex issues that Maryland experiences... Plus Army has a football model that Maryland would want to get insight on...

Posted by: Zipfutbol | December 30, 2010 1:08 PM | Report abuse

If this was a diversity quest firing and I'm Ralph, I would be knocking on the EEOC's door on Monday or the day after the hiring takes place. A 63 year old white man replaced by a minority after a winning record and 8 bowl games and coach of the year, give me a break. How can you hold a football coach responsible for a drop in attendance during the greatest economic downturn since the great depression. Those forces behind Ralph's departure need to straighten up and get their heads out the spot where they sit. I'm embarrased for the state and university over the handling of this situation. What honorable coach would want to come to work for this AD and his boss?

Posted by: frank49 | December 30, 2010 1:14 PM | Report abuse

Anyone notice how clean and efficient the O play calls were yesterday? Lots of I (pro style). I saw effective Ralph stuff, not too fancy by half and ineffective like Franklin. Save face and rehire Fridge and Don Brown MR. gonna be fired for foolish decisions in 3 years.

Posted by: Realness1 | December 30, 2010 1:30 PM | Report abuse

Quite the back and forth on the threads today. I've enjoyed reading it all. I'd say "body blows" were landed on all sides.

So now moving into the center ring:

From the twitter-sphere:

Mike Leach’s former OL coach at Texas Tech Robert Anae resigns from BYU.
-Chick Hernandez

Mike Leach will take the Maryland job and Anae will join his staff. Win win for both sides.
-Scott Garrard from Utah’s KFAN

Posted by: jake177 | December 30, 2010 1:35 PM | Report abuse

Leach NEVER won the Big 12.

Posted by: Realness1 | December 30, 2010 1:40 PM | Report abuse

Zipfutbol:

Your handle tells it all: You know zip about football.

MD has always been a hoops school? Really? Check the record books. If you consider "always a hoops school" as beginning around 1989, I'm with you. If you're talking anytime before that? You simply don't have a grasp of any facts.

You're entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts (D.P. Moynihan).

Posted by: WheelsRI | December 30, 2010 1:45 PM | Report abuse

its funny to see people debate if fridge should've been fired or not and what coach they bring in. once people realize that college football is big business and it has nothing to do with loyalty the more they will understand where this came from. fridge was a victim of economics and poor judgement from the university for building a stadium way too big for the program at this stage.

Posted by: heatseeker690069 | December 30, 2010 2:01 PM | Report abuse

The Washington area is tired of supporting losing teams. Maryland will put more of the area fan base in those stadium seats when winning becomes the norm. Just ask Ted Leonsis.

Posted by: coastallp74 | December 30, 2010 2:11 PM | Report abuse

Yeah WheelsRI. Who would consider UMD a hoops school before 1989. John Lucas, Len Elmore, Tom McMillan, Albert King, Len Bias...who are they?

Posted by: fushezzi | December 30, 2010 2:11 PM | Report abuse

Wise is 100% right. Great column. All of you boosters really need to look at yourselves in the mirror and get off your booster talking points that you've all circulated to each other. You must be happy now -- you're gonna get your shiny new toy in Mike Leach. I hope he wins for you. For me, unethical Leach will have to "show me" some wins before I will support him, Loh and Anderson. We have an unethical administration hiring an unethical coach -- good luck with that. Most importantly, thank you Coach Friedgen for everything!

Posted by: b1gd1pper | December 30, 2010 2:14 PM | Report abuse

I can't picture Leach ever giving a post game speech like Fridge did yesterday.

Fridge is a true Terp and it is clear that it was his team.

I think I prefer Gus. Although Auburn is not exactly a clean program and they will probably get the hammer dropped on them fairly soon.

Posted by: garrett4 | December 30, 2010 2:25 PM | Report abuse

Leach has some big pants to fill.

Posted by: clandestinetomcat | December 30, 2010 2:28 PM | Report abuse

Do we even want to be a basketball school? NCAA basketball has been going downhill for years. The first few months of the season are practically unwatchable. The only hope for the sport is to get rid of the one and done.

Posted by: garrett4 | December 30, 2010 2:28 PM | Report abuse

Great column by Mike Wise that summarized the outrage by the overwhelmingly vast majority of Terps season ticket holders. I still haven't met a single season ticket holder that wanted Friedgen gone. Of course there will be anonymous clowns on the board posing as season ticket holders that will claim they supported the firing of Friedgen, but in reality most of the anti-Fridge crowd were those who were never a threat to buy season tickets in the first place.

The Petecards, the sirpelleas, the epdalys, the caphillterps, the TerpfanMA's...you know who you are. You represent the very worst aspect of sports: The casual "fairweather" fans, who jump on the bandwagon when times are good and then demand coaching changes when times aren't so good (or in this case, even when times ARE good). It's a shame that you guys weren't there to support this team more often these last few years. If you had forked over a couple hundred dollars a year for season tickets, we'd have been invited to the Champs Sports bowl and played a marquee game against a ranked opponent--and the greatest Maryland coach of this generation would still have a job.

Posted by: Barno1 | December 30, 2010 2:31 PM | Report abuse

Barno, you do understand that some alumni don't live in the area, right? Why would I get season tickets if I live over 200 miles away? I was able to get to 1 game. I went to both hoops games in MSG. I'm going to the Villanova game in a couple weeks. College Park is a tougher trip.

If we had been invited to the Champs Sports Bowl and played WVU, would that make this season that much more satisfying or successful? We get it, Fridge had a great run. He also had a so-so run in the past 7 years. Everyone points to 75 wins in the past 10 years. Great. I would've killed for 7.5 wins a year in college. That being said, the issue should be whether people believe Friedgen would win games going forward. How many wins do you think he'd get if he were at Maryland 10 more years? I believe around 60. The past 7 years indicate that 60 wins is realistic given he was slightly above .500 for nearly 2 cycles of players since the glory years. That doesn't undo what he accomplished in his first 3 years. It just means Maryland has to make moves based on the future. I have no idea if Leach or Malzahn or Sumlin is the answer to ACC dominance and multiple Orange Bowl births but I have a good feeling they'll give the Terps a better chance at a higher win percentage and a better chance to get to the OB.

Stop challenging and qualifying fanhood. Petecard, TerpfanMA, caphillterp, sirpellas, and I never threatened a boycott of the program. Someone else did...

Posted by: epdaly | December 30, 2010 3:27 PM | Report abuse

a terps fan since the late 1950s - we have seldom had ten years of the quality the fridge brought us - and fridge had the smallest football budget in the ACC (let alone a football conference) and one of the smallest staffs - i'm in agreement w/ barno and frank49 - what done is done but maybe 'be careful what you wish for because you just might get it' is appropriate now.

Posted by: artguydtd | December 30, 2010 3:41 PM | Report abuse

fushezzi:

Ever hear of Jerry Claiborne and Bobby Ross? They were at MD with Lefty, weren't they? And what about before Lefty? Care to check MD's hoops record when Gary Williams played for them?

MD had a history as a football school, which waned in the 60s. MD's rise in hoops started in 1968, and MD's football came back to prominence in the 1970s. Both programs enjoyed national success until 1986. It took 10 almost 10 years for the hoops program to get back. It took 15 for the football team to get back.

Barno1...Mike Cliche Wise writes drivel. You can agree with his sentiment, but he's a garbage writer trying too hard to get internet clicks. And please tell me when the official mourning of Ralph can end so that we get a football coach in place for the January 4th recruiting period.

You've hammered Anderson for his handling of the force-out. I don't mind that. I think it's justified. But if he doesn't close the deal by Jan 4th and hampers recruiting, then you'll bash him for noting tidying up the details by Jan 4.

Cliche Wise's last 2 columns were written by Ralph. Cliche Wise wants to bash Anderson for being here for 5 minutes before making changes. I'd say 4 months on the job is plenty of time to assess the culture of MD athletics left behind by Yow. Now it's time to make changes. When can he start? When can he finally take charge of the department he's hired to oversee?

It's too bad Ralph was so immersed in the MD culture that he couldn't see the ground shifting beneath his feet. But Ralph has to take some accountability for his failures. Let Anderson enact his vision for the department before rendering judgment. It's okay to like Ralph, feel bad about his departure, and still want to see someone like Mike Leach come to MD and build off of what Ralph put into place. Ralph hadn't done it in 7 years, and given his age, how much longer could we expect him to get back to his considerable success? I refuse to believe that what someone did 7 years ago can be the reason for continuing the ups and downs. Someone has to think beyond his next extension. That's Anderson's job. Let him do it.

Posted by: WheelsRI | December 30, 2010 4:13 PM | Report abuse

What's done is done and regardless of what we all think Maryland will have a new coach. I live in the Midwest and have seen first hand what Leach can do. His offenses have been fun to watch and obviously rack up points (which most people love to see) . I was a huge Fridge supporter and always will be but the only thing I ask is that the new coach please offer the D coordinator job to Brown. If indeed Leach is our next coach we will go to the next level. I just hope he learned from TT that he needs to have a D coordinator that is worth a darn. With the right staff I think Terps Nation will be extremely happy how far the program will go. We need to get the mentality that FSU VA TECH and all the other big dogs in the ACC have and that is anything less than a conference title is unacceptable.

Posted by: Nemo4 | December 30, 2010 4:20 PM | Report abuse

Here's the problem in a nutshell:

The "you don't know how good we've had it the last decade" crowd is afraid of change, and more specifically--afraid of pursuing excellence.

Yes, the classic UM "inferiority complex" that resonates with all alums has migrated to the Post boards.

"We need to know our lot in life and deal with it."

I'd be willing to bet that very few, if any, of such posters has ever ventured out on the limb in life.

No risk, no reward. Simple.

Give me a warm blanket, give me a pension, give me security, give me my Mommy.

Pathetic.

Let's take this damn thing to the next level, neo-Terp fans.

God Bless Big Ralph. Loved the guy, but he hit his ceiling in 2003.

Give the keys to the Pirate and watch this thing build!

Posted by: MerlinTerps | December 30, 2010 4:21 PM | Report abuse

From Wise's column: Maryland "made a fourth-and-goal stand to upset Navy."

As a MD grad, I'll always love the Fridge for the way he brought the program back, but a win over Navy should NEVER be considered an upset for us.

Bottom line, I am torn. Having grown up in the Mark Duffner/Scott Milanovich era (aka the lose-to-FSU-by-45-every-year era), I really appreciate what the Terps have done this decade. However, we've blown some big games in recent years -- 2008 vs FSU at home comes to mind -- and the ACC has been up for grabs for awhile now. With FSU and Miami on the decline, there is no reason why we shouldn't compete with Va Tech for the title every year.

Posted by: gaholtzman | December 30, 2010 5:02 PM | Report abuse

MerlinTerps wins again for dumbest post. We should name a trophy in his honor.

Posted by: mcmelton | December 30, 2010 5:11 PM | Report abuse

As for poor attendance figures, I agree with previous posters who cited the sh*tty economy and the fact that MD competes with a boatload of pro teams -- Skins, Ravens, Caps to name a few.

Look at a school like Clemson. They draw really well, but guess what? They're the only ticket in town. Same with FSU and Va Tech. Those fans have no other choice if they wanna go out and watch a ballgame.

Mike Leach or whoever else MD hires is gonna have to win 9-10 games a year to get fans to shell out for Terps season tix, in addition to the $$ they'll spend on pro games.

Posted by: gaholtzman | December 30, 2010 5:22 PM | Report abuse

Check the record books. If you consider "always a hoops school" as beginning around 1989, I'm with you. Posted by: WheelsRI | December 30, 2010 1:45 PM | Report abuse

"WheelsRI" you have a great point, Yes Maryland is a USC, Miami, Florida type football power just waiting to happen. We just need the right "Pirate" to take us there. I can't believe so many College Football aficionados haven't acknowledged the sleeping giant that is MARYLAND FOOTBALL! Jerry Claiborne? are you kidding??Bobby Ross loved MD so much he left to stay in the conference at Ga Tech after 4 yrs., at Maryland... and all those great bowl trips> Aloha,Sun,Citrus&Cherry Bowls...anybody play in the Cherry Bowl lately?
Actually when the three "5 Hour Energy Drinks" fade & you are done watching NASCAR re-runs from 1988 do some home work of your own.
The ACC is a "nothing" football conference and MD is a bottom 3rd program in a "Nothing" football conference. There is a reason why MD basketball is actually in a position to win National Championships vs. MD football which considers a great year a trip to The Chic-Fil-A Bowl... Seriously "WheelsRI" just stay w/NASCAR or better yet head to Balmer this summer for F1 racing which like MD football will also become an elite program. Monte Carlo & Baltimore are similiar to the Alabama, Michigan & Terp Football comparison...
Mike Leach is a low life NCAA D1 "Train Wreck" headed for the college Park station. If the guy is such Hot Commodity why is he looking for a job & working at CBS? Because any Major College AD w/half a brain doesn't want this classless thug to ruin their program - but Kevin Anderson wants to please Kevin Plank so away we go...
I think its great that the new Maryland AD wants to hire a guy who is suing his two previous employers and locks players of celebrity broadcasters in garages next to the practice facility... Good thing he is a lawyer. OK "WheelsRI" - hey Daytona is only a few months away so start saving those Hooters receipts.

Posted by: Zipfutbol | December 30, 2010 5:25 PM | Report abuse

RALPH WAS (AND IS) A CLASS GUY WHO IS A MD ALUM, LOVED THE TERPS AND LOVED HIS PLAYERS. HE WAS EXTREMELY LOYAL TO MD AND A DARNED GOOD COACH. I'M NOT SURE WHY WE
SHOULD BELIEVE ANY OF THE ANNOUNCED CANDIDATES CAN
"TAKE US TO THE NEXT LEVEL". NONE OF THEM
INCLUDING MIKE LEACH HAS EVER HAD A NATL
CHAMPIONSHIP CONTENDER. MIKE LEACH HAS NEVER FINISHED IN THE TOP 10 , WON DOUBLE
FIGURES ONCE, AND NEVER WON HIS DIVISION
IN THE BIG 12. HE MIGHT BE MORE COLORFUL
AND DRAW FANS BUT HE'S ALSO SLEAZY. AND
I THOUGHT ECU RAN THE SAME UNSTOPPABLE
OFFENSE MIKE LEACH RUNS. MD STOPPED IT ON
WED. IS IT POSSIBLE SOME ACC TEAMS MIGHT
FIGURE IT OUT TOO.
MIKE WISE SAID WHAT I WANT TO SAY. SOMETIMES LOYALTY SHOULD MATTER MORE THAN
BUSINESS.
IF MD WANTED TO BE BIG-TIME IN FOOTBALL
WHY DID THEY HIRE A SMALL-TIMER FROM ARMY
(A DEFINITE BIG-TIME BCS PROGRAM!) HE CERTAINLY KNOWS MORE THAN RALPH ABOUT BIG-
TIME FOOTBALL.

GOOD LUCK, RALPH!!!

HOPEFULLY OUR NEW COACH AND ANDERSON WILL
GO DOWN IN FLAMES TOGETHER!

Posted by: VRTCPA | December 30, 2010 5:26 PM | Report abuse

WheelsR1 wrote: "If you consider "always a hoops school" as beginning around 1989, I'm with you."

Beginning around 1989? Hey Wheels, ever hear of Lefty Driesell? Or Len Elmore, John Lucas, or Tom McMillen? Buck Williams? Or Len Bias, maybe?

Posted by: MBP1 | December 30, 2010 5:52 PM | Report abuse

Wheels, it just occurred to me that maybe you meant to write 1969, the year Lefty arrived at UMD, rather than 1989.

Posted by: MBP1 | December 30, 2010 5:55 PM | Report abuse

Can someone please explain to me why all of the "haters" insist on calling Mike Leach unethical? Last time I checked, his biggest offense at Texas Tech was refusing to pamper the spoiled brat of a kid of some former mediocre USFL football player (yes Mr. James, I'm talking about you). Or maybe the haters are just the fat girlfriends of the players and they know if Mike Leach is hired, their time on campus will be short lived. Good. More wins and less fat girlfriends. I can support that!

Posted by: ckuhfahl | December 30, 2010 6:05 PM | Report abuse

Larry Johnson Penn State, he will never be the head guy at Penn State and is the best recruiter in the State of Maryland.

Posted by: dcinmd1 | December 30, 2010 6:12 PM | Report abuse

ckuhfahl- I and many others oppose Leach for reasons that have nothing to do with the James situation. IMO the James lawsuit helps Leach because instead of addressing his record his proponents can claim anyone against him is only "hating" and taking sides with the spoiled offspring of the Pony Express. That aside, appreciate your attempt at humor with the fat girlfriend reference.

Posted by: mcmelton | December 30, 2010 6:37 PM | Report abuse

ckuhfahl:

As mcmelton points out, there are those of us who see Leach as a one-way ticket to NCAA sanctions. His record over 10 years was little better than Friedgens and Texas Tech can admit anybody.

As for the other issues with Leach, check again....

"Saturday, January 2, 2010
University releases affidavits
By Joe Schad
ESPN.com

Texas Tech has released a signed, sworn affidavit from an athletic trainer who says former coach Mike Leach instructed him to "lock" receiver Adam James in a dark place and that he disagreed with Leach's treatment of James after the player was diagnosed with a concussion.

According to his affidavit, taken by representatives of the university on Dec. 21 and signed on Jan. 1, trainer Steve Pincock did not agree with the treatment and said he knew of no other player ever being placed in a similar room.

In releasing the affidavits from Pincock and treating physician Dr. Michael Phy, the university said, "After coach Leach's conflicting recent media accounts of the treatment of James, the university asked witnesses to sign affidavits attesting to their original statements."

Phy told university officials in his affidavit that James "may not have been harmed," but he "considered this practice inappropriate, and a deviation from the medical standard of care."

Leach was fired by Texas Tech on Wednesday, two days after he was suspended by the university as it investigated James' allegations of mistreatment. James is the son of ESPN college football analyst Craig James."

Posted by: Terpinator1 | December 30, 2010 6:51 PM | Report abuse

Epdaly, i can respect you not living in the area, but why is it you deny that so many of the out of the area fans wanted Friedgen gone while almost all the season ticket holders wanted him back? The only friends of mine who wanted him gone were all out of towners (except one in town fan, who not surprisingly, doesn't have season tickets). Almost all of the people who have commented on this blog in recent weeks who wanted Fridge gone, with maybe 2 or 3 exceptions, were either out of towners like you, Petecard, TerpfanMA, poopy_mcpoop...or those who may live around here but still don't go to games (caphillterp, sirpelleas). Why deny this? Fridge had great support among the fans at Byrd stadium...yet those fans who do support the school with their wallet didn't get what they wanted, while the fans that don't support the school financially got exactly what they wanted. There is something fundamentally wrong with that.

Yesterday, the MD faithful that turned out was almost universally supportive of Friedgen. It's hard to imagine another situation in all of college football where a coach is so beloved by the fans yet was fired.

Posted by: Barno1 | December 30, 2010 7:04 PM | Report abuse

bla bla bla..We won our final game vs an inferior team...the fat ego turd is gone gone gone and many of us are happy...The fat one was depised by high school coaches....they advised there kids to not play for him...stat..check how many local kids we get a committment from...the terps will be successful for the next 3 yrs if we stay healthy...The key is the years beyond the 3 ..the fat one did not recruit these kids it was franklin...so we got lucky when franklin left...Leach ,who i think is a shoe in,will recruit..please keep Don Brown!!!!he is great and thr kids like him

so bla bla see ya fat boy..sit on your boat and try medifast

Our next coach will blow the fat cart riding bimbo away.

Posted by: carolina1 | December 30, 2010 7:46 PM | Report abuse

ps how many folks at the game were terp club members???probably 30%..where were these fansat the nc sate game...

Posted by: carolina1 | December 30, 2010 7:49 PM | Report abuse

Essentially, Barno defines a MD fan as: 1. Supports Friedgen, and 2. Supports Barno's opinions. He argues that season ticket holders strongly denounce Anderson's decision, but he provides no data (other than his friends' opinions). He fails to acknowledge that a significant factor of Fridge's firing is a result of dwindling ticket sales. Basically, if you still came to see a team after going 2-10, then you were a Fridge fan. But if you gave up your tickets, you likely did not support Fridge. So yes, the people still paying money are more likely to support Friedgen. But those people who did not want their money supporting Friedgen's staff, they did not pay money to watch the games. So if you're asking those people sitting around you, of course they are more likely to support him. Obviously those who went to the bowl game are more likely to support him. But let's not forget, the smallest crowds of his tenure came during this most recent winning season. Pretty damning statement by the MD football community.

Posted by: Finnucane | December 30, 2010 7:51 PM | Report abuse

Barno,
As a season ticketholder, Terrapin Club member, and MGN memeber I would like to say a few things. First, I don't know who you were talking to but I talked to quite a few season ticket holders and alums yesterday who, if they didn't want Friedgen fired, at least understood the decision to do so. Yes, we may have won eight or so games next year and maybe the year after, but after the recruits from the past couple of years filtered out and the Fridge had to coach kids he recruited we would be once again at best 5-6 or more likely 4-7 or worse. The reason he couldn't recruit? What kid, or parent for that matter, would want to hear about self discipline, training, self improvement and sacrifice from someone who couldn't say the same thing for themself. Let's face it the medifast thing has either plateaued or regressed and the sight seen personally by more than a few people that, yes, attend the games and attend Terp Alley is one of amazement. The last game against NC State was a late November Saturday, rather chilly, downright blustery, actually. There I was with my family and others watching the team make their way off the bus and down the walk to the team house. Well after the team passed by we saw Ralph coming down the route. Keep in mind this is a quarter mile, down hill, black topped street. Here comes coach looking like he is about to drop over with the big one. He looked so bad, as a matter of fact, that my young daughter turned to me and asked "Is he going to be okay?". Out of the mouths of babes, right. If she can see it how hard is it for others to do the same. So Barno, I don't want to hear your crap questioning the qualifications of people on this board. If you want to talk qualifications lets talk. Season ticket holder since '74, Terrapin Club member since '75, MGN memeber. When I can, I attend bowl games. Been to the Sun, Cherry, Orange, Gator and Military Bowls. Was one who joined in the "Thank You, Ralph" chants that sprouted up throughout the game. I do wish to thank Ralph but for his health's sake and that of the program I think it is time for him to ride off into the sunset.

Posted by: kaptainterp | December 30, 2010 7:59 PM | Report abuse

Count me as a long time season ticket holder that respects the job that the Fridge did at Maryland, but understands why the decision was made and supports it. There are a lot of the big boosters in the Terrapin Club that I have heard from, who feel much stronger that I do about not signing Fridge to an extension.

The bottom line is that after 2003 Fridge was signed to a contract that paid him like one of the top 25 coaches in the country and since falling to 3-2 early in 2004, Maryland has been ranked in the top 25 in only 5 of the last 104 polls.

Posted by: Chief2 | December 30, 2010 8:14 PM | Report abuse

Isn't it possible that the dwindling attendance and subpar season ticket numbers are due to local fans of the school that have protested the Friedgen regime? If he's not putting out a product that those people want to see, then it's reasonable that they announced their displeasure by not paying money to see the team. Lower season ticket numbers mean lower support. I fully recognize that the remaining season ticket holders wanted Ralph to stay. I'm not denying that at all. The problem is there weren't enough of you. Anderson has to fill seats. Ralph wasn't doing that.

As for your comment that out-of-towners don't financially support the school, that is just wrong. If the program only relied on local support and donations they'd be in much worse shape. I'm not saying local support isn't huge but saying non season ticket holders contribute nothing is ridiculous.

Posted by: epdaly | December 30, 2010 8:18 PM | Report abuse

Terpinator1 wrote,

"As mcmelton points out, there are those of us who see Leach as a one-way ticket to NCAA sanctions. His record over 10 years was little better than Friedgens and Texas Tech can admit anybody."

Leach never had any problem with NCAA violations in 10 years at Texas Tech that I am aware of. In addition the graduation rate of his players was outstanding. See the link. The schools ranked above Texas Tech are all very strong academic institutions.

http://www.fanblogs.com/ncaa/007839.php

Posted by: Chief2 | December 30, 2010 8:26 PM | Report abuse

Terpinator, McMelton (and/or others?),

Please be more specific about your concerns regarding Leach. I am not someone who wanted Fridge fired and am not some sort of Leach loyalist or whatever. But I do think we are going to be hashing out the details regarding Mike Leach because while I think Gus Malzahn is likely the preference of a number of influential people, he almost certainly doesn't pass the smell test on the question of "really wants to be at Maryland."

Which is not to say that Leach's life dream has been to coach at Maryland. But he did have a high graduation rate during a decade at a remote place with a Byrd-size stadium. And while he is like all these guys in terms of always keeping an eye on "what's my market value", from what I can tell it seems very clear he was run off from TT under the plausible-concern ruse of the James "case" because he was basically not a good old boy or whatever you want to call it and numerous big boosters didn't like him and didn't want to pay him bigger (but not "SEC") bucks. That is, about 2.5/yr, which coincidentally seems to be about the range Maryland/Plank are contemplating.

So basically, coupled with the whole Plank/UA dynamic and the fact that "bigger-time" openings have steered clear of Leach, there are multiple levels that the Maryland/Leach combo "works" in today's environment and seems most likely.

Maybe people don't really want to dig down into all this stuff unless/until he is actually named. That's fine with me. All I am really saying is that I've read numerous articles about the guy, including many on the James ruse/ESPN spin, watched all the youtube clips of his supposed horrible nature, etc. And I've come away so far liking the guy quite a bit.

That affadavit carries little weight to me given the in-house dynamics at TT and in light of other viewpoints about what went down.

So it seems like in previous discussions about a potential Leach era that there is widespread aggreement that he better have a serious defensive coordinator and better have major recruiting help. The only thing I can say for sure is that it isn't going to help anything if we internally perpetuate some vague aura of "Leach is corrupt and evil" if the evidence does not support that. Personally I am very interested to have an open evaluation of any and all arguments against Leach. Not that it is going to influence the search committee, but I'd rather see all laundry people are aware of sooner rather than later. And with some reasonable degree of clarity and specificity. I've had my fill of spin, innuendo, and most commonly: poorly researched regurgitation.

Posted by: jake177 | December 30, 2010 8:34 PM | Report abuse

I love that a lot of you apparently don't know how to read. My last post above included the following paragraph:

"MD had a history as a football school, which waned in the 60s. MD's rise in hoops started in 1968, and MD's football came back to prominence in the 1970s. Both programs enjoyed national success until 1986. It took 10 almost 10 years for the hoops program to get back. It took 15 for the football team to get back."

I think I might have upset zipfutbol, who thinks I live in Florida and am a NASCAR fan. I'm still laughing. You don't like Claiborne taking MD to the Cotton Bowl? How about Jack Tatum winning an AP Championship at MD in the 1950s. I love how you mock Bobby Ross's accomplishments at MD. He had MD a preseason Top 5 team in the nation! When was the last time MD had that kind of preseason ranking?

Some of you need to learn to read. Some of you need to learn the differences between facts and opinions.

NASCAR...watching traffic...I love it.

Posted by: WheelsRI | December 30, 2010 8:35 PM | Report abuse

"His record over 10 years was little better than Friedgens"

- Leach never had a losing season at Tech, and he never failed to make a bowl game.

- Friedgen had four losing seasons, and he failed to make a bowl game three times.

I understand the merits of keeping Friedgen, but Leach has clearly had a much better record over an extended period of time.

Posted by: Finnucane | December 30, 2010 8:36 PM | Report abuse

Like I said, there are exceptions such as KaptainTerp and Chief...but I still maintain that the overwhelming (at least 95%) of season ticket holders/terp club members thought Ralph should not have been fired. Of course of that 95% (which I admit is obviously just an estimate) there are many that "understand" Anderson's decision. Hell, I can "understand" it, even if I vehemently disagree with it.

I would also offer this: Most of season ticket holders that I know are in their 30s. We are the ones who went to school during the late 80s and 90s when Md football was a joke. Perhaps that why we feel so indebted to Ralph. Perhaps that also why we feel that "mediocre" 8, 9, and 10 win seasons culminating in blowout bowl wins are good enough for us.

Posted by: Barno1 | December 30, 2010 8:47 PM | Report abuse

@epdaly, those are fair points. I just feel that attendance would have been good to great next season, and I feel Anderson underestimates the role the economy, the schedule, and the 2-10 season had on ticket sales this year. I wish he had focused more on the first 8 years before the 2-10 season.

Posted by: Barno1 | December 30, 2010 8:50 PM | Report abuse

For those who think that Gus is the better option, I think he would cut his head coaching teeth at Maryland and get out of dodge as soon as he could to move on to an elite program when the opportunity presented itself... He grew up in the south, and I can't see him at Maryland beyond 3-5 years, unless of course, he wasn't successful.

Leach is a proven head coach who may prove to be a short-timer as well. However, I'd roll the dice with him and see how far he could take Maryland.

Posted by: Nomoremaos | December 30, 2010 9:00 PM | Report abuse

love ralph,he's out.courting leach,mmm ok. but, if we want to be a national power I say go after an SEC coach.

Posted by: just_call_me_shell | December 30, 2010 9:24 PM | Report abuse

PS to my above post:

I certainly do grant that Leach likes to cuss a LOT. There is no question it is a big part of his style of communicating with young guys, particularly after losses. It is not likely a guy can/will change that sort of thing. It ultimately did not bother me really because I imagine that I "get it" about why he does it. Maybe I'm wrong, but in my super-amateur psychology analysis it seems to me that he has a strong subconscious need to compensate for his "geekiness" when trying to drive home urgency and his intentions to only play the guys who are putting in max effort. Is it really necessary? I don't know. But does it really cross some line of what constitutes respectability? Or is it even very different from what many other coaches do? I doubt it.

While I'm at it I might as well say something about what I do like about Leach. First and foremost is that contrary to the spin about him being some kind of unethical, out-of-control jerk, to me he seems like has a very firm grasp of ethics, human decency, humor, intellectual curiosity and innovative thinking. In some crazy way there could be a case to be made that he is actually a great institutional "fit." By that I mean if you blend the post-Bias/Slaughter reforms history with the Fridge-got-us-rebooted with football respectability, Leach-the-innovative-geek basically is an example of a guy who creatively bridges that gap of being an actual educator and a "big time" football coach.

On a personal tangent I'll add a humorous story. My high school won the Michigan 'big-school' state championship in football my senior year back in the 80s. (And again a couple years later.) I had "health" class that Fall with coach as the teacher. That guy was a flat-out freak. I mean he LOVED to teach. He loved to tell stories and he definitely loved being HIGHLY provocative. (Let's just say that among other things he didn't shy away from any aspect of the 'sex ed' part of the class.) He certainly kept class in stitches quite a bit of the time. But he could be serious and very effective as well. All I can say is it clearly translated to the football field as well.

Posted by: jake177 | December 30, 2010 9:37 PM | Report abuse

kaptainterp | December 30, 2010 7:59 PM

You're just a complete f'ing idiot.
You've never heard of a successful fat football coach??
His weight has nothing to do with anything, you f'ing retard. Have another donut.

Posted by: spunkydawg1 | December 30, 2010 9:41 PM | Report abuse

Where is Eric Prisbell? I am still waiting for his apology. Maryland sold out their ticket allotment to the Military Bowl. NC Sate ended up eating about 1,700 of their ticket allotment to the Champs Sports Bowl. Why isn't Prsibell around writing about this? If you will recall, Prisbell repeately made the claim that NCSU fans travel better than Terps fans, despite the fact that actual bowl attendance figures prove otherwise. Now that actual ticket sales have proved Prisbell wrong again, he is nowhere to be found. How gutless can you be? After all of the uncessary damage that he caused, including the firing of Fridge, Eric Prisbell should at least have the deceny to write a post admitting that he was wrong. I guess that is too much to expect from the likes of Mr. Prisbell - he is a real piece of work.

Posted by: smitch6087 | December 30, 2010 11:08 PM | Report abuse

It is pretty amazing that we got labeled a poor traveling school, considering how well we traveled to our previous bowls. There were never any facts backing up the claim, not just by Prisbell but by everyone who bought into it. All the facts pointed to MD being a very good traveling school, but all those facts were ignored by the media and the bowl committees who read those reports.

Posted by: Barno1 | December 31, 2010 12:42 AM | Report abuse

Where is Eric Prisbell? I am still waiting for his apology. Maryland sold out their ticket allotment to the Military Bowl. NC Sate ended up eating about 1,700 of their ticket allotment to the Champs Sports Bowl. Why isn't Prsibell around writing about this? If you will recall, Prisbell repeately made the claim that NCSU fans travel better than Terps fans, despite the fact that actual bowl attendance figures prove otherwise. Now that actual ticket sales have proved Prisbell wrong again, he is nowhere to be found. How gutless can you be? After all of the uncessary damage that he caused, including the firing of Fridge, Eric Prisbell should at least have the deceny to write a post admitting that he was wrong. I guess that is too much to expect from the likes of Mr. Prisbell - he is a real piece of work.

Posted by: smitch6087 | December 30, 2010 11:08 PM | Report abuse

In Prisbell's defense there is a huge difference in going to a bowl game in the area and traveling to a bowl game.

On Wednesday, I worked half day and then hopped on the metro and went to the game. I was home in Frederick County by 8:30. Unfortunately, I would not have been able to attend a bowl game that we had to travel to.

Posted by: Chief2 | December 31, 2010 5:13 AM | Report abuse

Like I said, there are exceptions such as KaptainTerp and Chief...but I still maintain that the overwhelming (at least 95%) of season ticket holders/terp club members thought Ralph should not have been fired. Of course of that 95% (which I admit is obviously just an estimate) there are many that "understand" Anderson's decision. Hell, I can "understand" it, even if I vehemently disagree with it.

I would also offer this: Most of season ticket holders that I know are in their 30s. We are the ones who went to school during the late 80s and 90s when Md football was a joke. Perhaps that why we feel so indebted to Ralph. Perhaps that also why we feel that "mediocre" 8, 9, and 10 win seasons culminating in blowout bowl wins are good enough for us.

Posted by: Barno1 | December 30, 2010 8:47 PM | Report abuse

You can divide the Maryland fans commenting on the coaching change in three groups 1.current season ticket holders, 2. Former season ticket holder or disgruntled fans and 3. More casual fan.

From the season ticket holders that I heard from, I think it is more like 50% in favor of the decision. Within the 50% in favor of changing coaches there are two sub groups. About half like the Fridge, but understand the move. These people may feel differently if Mike Leach is not hired. I am in this sub group. There is another sub group of season tickets holders that lost faith in the Fridge and feel the coaching change was overdue.

Obviously in general the people that gave up their season tickets lost faith in the Fridge and are happy with the coaching change. I understand why people like Barno are critical of former season ticket holders. However, they are the best candidates to increase the season ticket numbers and from the ones that I talked to, they were not coming back while Fridge was still the coach.

The casual fans that don't buy tickets that weighed in on the decision, are overwhelming against the decision. They may not understand the specifics but see the Fridge as a loyal, honest guy and that Maryland has gone to a lot of bowls game under Fridge.

Posted by: Chief2 | December 31, 2010 5:40 AM | Report abuse

A two-part cpach.

As a Texas Tech alum who has been supporting the team for over 30 years, I can tell you unequivocally that most of the Leach criticism I have read on this board is utter nonsense. Maryland should consider itself fortunate to have Mike Leach on board.

Mike Leach won two-thirds of his games during his tenure while playing in the Big 12 South - arguably the toughest division in college football over the past decade.

The Big 12 South featured two national champions over that time span in Texas and Oklahoma. Texas and Oklahoma won more games from 2000-2009 than any other team in the country (with the exception of Boise State). Both Texas and Oklahoma would play for the national championship a further 2 times over that same period. The winner of the Big 12 South finished in the top 5 each year Mike Leach was head coach.

Texas and Oklahoma are two of the most storied football schools in the country with athletic budgets that dwarf that of Texas Tech. Texas Tech is based in Lubbock, Texas which is a 6 and 12 hour drive from the recruiting mine fields of Dallas and Houston respectively. It has always been difficult to recruit players to Texas Tech and always will be. Rather than try to beat programs like Oklahoma and Texas at their own game, Mike Leach's coaching and recruiting philosophy was to beat them asymmetrically.

Over a 10 year period Mike Leach's Texas Tech teams finished with the third highest winning percentage in the Big 12.

Leach's inherited a run-oriented football team in 2000 that was suffering from NCAA sanctions and which had only 10 available scholarships. Over his final 5 years, having had time to build his program, Texas Tech won over 70% of its game. Leach went 3-3 against Oklahoma in his last six years at Texas Tech.

The other thing Mike Leach did over his tenure was graduate 79% of this players compared to Texas's and Oklahoma's anemic graduation rates of 40 to 50%.

Despite these impressive achievements, and until his final year at Texas Tech, Mike Leach was the 10th highest paid coach in the Big 12. He looked for jobs during his tenure at Tech because he was paid below the market rate.

(Part 2 is next)

Posted by: LR1995 | December 31, 2010 6:37 AM | Report abuse

Jake - i wrote a long response that got held for reasons I don't understand. In short - appreciate your response but 1- I don't think Leach is crooked, 2- I don't care if a coach uses profanity, 3- I think Leach is viewed by some around here as more successful than his record shows, 4- TTU was already on firm footing prior to Leach, 5- as currently funded MD is actually a tougher job than Tech, 6- I'm disappointed that after pushing Ralph out MD isn't considering bigger names than the ones that have been floated.

Posted by: mcmelton | December 31, 2010 8:08 AM | Report abuse

Barny, your double standard is really precious...you rail against people who didnt think Fridge was the greatest ever as non fans but then you and your horde of flying monkeys blast the U president, AD and promise not to support MD unless the new coach wins a NC in 3 years...priceless.....Get With the Program and Get Off the Tracks...Coaches, Players, ADs come and go...thats how it is...True Fans support/cheer for UMD through the changes....this may be the first big test of your "fanness"...can you handle it????

Posted by: TerpfanMA | December 31, 2010 9:11 AM | Report abuse

Oh, and Barny...on your fanmeter, how do you record the fact that you ripped off Maryland by using Student Tix to get into games after you graduated?

Posted by: TerpfanMA | December 31, 2010 9:32 AM | Report abuse

Season ticket holder, MGN member - Understand the business side of it, but do not support it if Mike Leach is considered someone that will make us great.

Lets not anoint someone "the messiah" before they start the job. That doesn't seem to work out too well in the DC area.

Posted by: garrett4 | December 31, 2010 9:38 AM | Report abuse

Chief2,

I guess you could put me in your 3rd category, casual fan. Grew up in NoVA and have been a fan for 30 years. I go to 1 football and basketball home game every couple of years but, watch religously on TV. And I went to the Military Bowl with my son, who is a huge Terp fan.

I was not against the move. Frankly, I'm torn by it. I love Ralph what did in turning around a horrible program that seemed to have no direction when he got here. I love the passion he has for His University and His program.

But, I see the other side of this. The ticket sales have slipped and the program just can't seem to get over the hump to the next level.

The Fridge really is a victim of his own success. He turned Maryland football from a laughing stock into a solid program again and that has left the followers wanting more. I guess in a small way, I'm guilty of that as well.

Posted by: Section505203 | December 31, 2010 10:55 AM | Report abuse

Where is Eric Prisbell? I am still waiting for his apology. Maryland sold out their ticket allotment to the Military Bowl. NC Sate ended up eating about 1,700 of their ticket allotment to the Champs Sports Bowl. Why isn't Prsibell around writing about this? If you will recall, Prisbell repeately made the claim that NCSU fans travel better than Terps fans, despite the fact that actual bowl attendance figures prove otherwise. Now that actual ticket sales have proved Prisbell wrong again, he is nowhere to be found. How gutless can you be? After all of the uncessary damage that he caused, including the firing of Fridge, Eric Prisbell should at least have the deceny to write a post admitting that he was wrong. I guess that is too much to expect from the likes of Mr. Prisbell - he is a real piece of work.

Posted by: smitch6087 | December 30, 2010 11:08 PM | Report abuse

In Prisbell's defense there is a huge difference in going to a bowl game in the area and traveling to a bowl game.

On Wednesday, I worked half day and then hopped on the metro and went to the game. I was home in Frederick County by 8:30. Unfortunately, I would not have been able to attend a bowl game that we had to travel to.

Posted by: Chief2 | December 31, 2010 5:13 AM | Report abuse

Chief2 - I don't disagree that Maryland fans had an easier commute, but that doesn't get Prisbell off the hook. He made repeated claims that NCSU fans travel better than Terp fans, but failed to provide any evidence for this claim other than home attendance figures. A comparison of previous bowl attendance figures proves that this claim was false, but Prisbell refused to comment on it. He has yet to comment on the fact that NCSU did not sell out their bowl allotment. He has not commented on whether he thinks his negative columns about fan attendance may have been a contributing facor in Fridge's firing. He has yet to even acknowledge that he was wrong about Terp fans's support for the Military Bowl. He was wrong about so many things and owes Terp fans an apology. But we have heard nothing from him. That makes him a gutless coward in my book. Like I said, he is a real piece of work.

Posted by: smitch6087 | December 31, 2010 11:15 AM | Report abuse

This is a bad situation that our new AD has left us in. With the way Ralph's termination was handled can you blame someone like Wise bashing Kevin Anderson and the University Administration. The story was left for him to take advantage of. A better more experienced AD would have handled this without creating such a PR mess. That said we should not have to be left with Leach as the only option but it appears that is what we are facing. The young core of this team has enough talent that almost any coach can win 10 games next year. What happens 4 years down the road is a better test of the new coach. If Terp Nation is unhappy after 4 years we will look to sack the AD who seems to have all the answers after serving as AD at Army. Good background for knowing the culture and expectations of Terp Nation. We should have a coach who is better than Leach as an option. Leach is not the man of character that Ralph has proven but do we really need an offense that passes on every down. A coach could come in with defense and ball control and be just as successful as Leach without all the baggage that Leach will bring. Terp Nation deserves better than this. Winning will bring back the fans and many coaches, perhaps most candidates could accomplish this.

Posted by: torope | December 31, 2010 11:48 AM | Report abuse

He has not commented on whether he thinks his negative columns about fan attendance may have been a contributing facor in Fridge's firing. He has yet to even acknowledge that he was wrong about Terp fans's support for the Military Bowl. He was wrong about so many things and owes Terp fans an apology. But we have heard nothing from him. That makes him a gutless coward in my book. Like I said, he is a real piece of work.

Posted by: smitch6087 | December 31, 2010 11:15 AM | Report abuse


Do you understand what a newspaper is? If you think bowl committees and athletic directors of Division I schools are getting their ideas from a sports blog, I have to question your intelligence. If you believe that Eric Prisbell contributed to Friedgen being fired, you are stupid. Obviously the majority of the high dollar donors and "season ticket holders" were supportive of the move or they wouldn't have done it. Yes, the athletic department definitely could have handled the whole thing better, but what's done is done. Try to move on.

Posted by: marylandarlington | December 31, 2010 12:09 PM | Report abuse

McMelton, thanks for the elaboration. Personally I'm fine with most actual football criticism/concerns regarding Leach. I went off because of the persistance that is out there among some, particularly casual fans, that hiring Leach would be some huge respectability setback for the university. Which is not to say I don't think some recruiters would do their best to perpetuate the ESPN spin to scare some kids away from Maryland. Sure, it's an issue, and would need to be dealt with in an ongoing way until dissipated.

On the football questions I guess I'm trying to be optimistic given that this process has seemed more or less geared towards him being the guy. I'm not a heavy Xs and Os guy but I have eyes and saw what our D did to a team coached by former Leach guys.

Posted by: jake177 | December 31, 2010 12:11 PM | Report abuse

Let's face it had Yow had the financial capabilities we would have had this coaching change last year and the debate whether the Fridge deserved it would have been less argumentative. The thing everyone on these boards would have been ticked about was the fact that it took $4million to do so. Was Ralph a different coach this year than last? Did he somehow change assistants that we didn't know about? IMHO he got lucky this year. Lucky that Jamarr got hurt @ WVU and that he had to give DOB a shot. If not, we would have been looking at another 5-6 season at best. DOB covered up alot of things with his play that Jamarr simply wouldn't have plain and simple. It's true our young team from 2009 got some experience and got better but not 7 games better. Sometimes there is a silver lining but when Jamarr got hurt and DOB had a chance to play, Ralph found a gold lining. Oh, by the way jake, I don't think the talent @ ECU was anything near what Leach had at Tech and from what I hear he was the OC not anyone on ECU's staff.

Posted by: kaptainterp | December 31, 2010 12:36 PM | Report abuse

Oh, and Barny...on your fanmeter, how do you record the fact that you ripped off Maryland by using Student Tix to get into games after you graduated?

Posted by: TerpfanMA | December 31, 2010 9:32 AM | Report abuse

Obviously you're being your typical disingenuous self here Terpfan, but I'll just say that was back when I had to scalp to get tickets to MD basketball games and the student tickets were the best bet because A) they were cheaper and B) you could sit whereever you wanted in the student sections (provided you got there early enough).

I paid $50 for that game, one of the best deals of my life. Today, a ticket in the lower level for Duke-MD can cost you upwards of 4 or 5 times that...and neither team is as good as it was back then (despite Duke's current number 1 ranking).

Posted by: Barno1 | December 31, 2010 12:39 PM | Report abuse

And Terpfan, please stick to your more reasoned comments of late and don't go back to your old, poopy_mcpoop style commenting...this board is a better place when you're not calling people racists while displaying bigotry towards Friedgen for his physical appearance. We actually like the new Terpfan, the one who travels to our bowl games and sticks up for Fridge's legacy.

Posted by: Barno1 | December 31, 2010 12:44 PM | Report abuse

Right, I definitely didn't mean to imply I thought the ECU game was proof we'd be screwed if Leach is hired. Just that ECU does run a version of the air raid and it wasn't pretty when a real D lined up against it. From what I've read that was also frequently the same kind of situation (on a higher level all around) when TT faced high-quality defenses. So the debate I guess is about what is the "ceiling" with Leach in terms of winning big games.

Posted by: jake177 | December 31, 2010 12:57 PM | Report abuse

The question still stands Barny:

Will the fandom of you and your minions be able to stand the test of time and change..many of us have been able to remain loyal to UMD sports despite the changes over time....will you?? Or will you be typified by this quote from a Fridge-Lover:

" If there is no NC in 3 yrs with DOB at QB, the AD and his upgraded coaches should be fired"

Posted by: TerpfanMA | December 31, 2010 2:58 PM | Report abuse

I don't think national championship is the threshold but certainly if the Terps do not make it to the ACC title game next year and to the Orange Bowl within 2 years, then Anderson should lose his job and never find work in the AD business again. Frankly, I think he should already have lost his job--actually, he shouldn't have ever been given this job to begin with. I think most of us how this man got the job with no ties to MD and no ties to the ACC and whose only AD experience was at Army. But some, like you, are uncomfortable talking about why he really got the job.

Posted by: Barno1 | December 31, 2010 3:18 PM | Report abuse

Well, thats not very realistic...I think UMD can show improvement against quality teams and with an improved schedule can increase fan excitement and ticket sales...Your bar for success feels like it has a significant amount of bitterness in it...I understand it based on the way everything went down but any new coach should get a least 3-5 years to put his stamp on the program...

Posted by: TerpfanMA | December 31, 2010 3:55 PM | Report abuse

Has anyone else on here noticed how little actual reporting has come out from the coaching search? Prisbell and crew are AWOL. At least the guy at The Sun posts updates when he gets info.

I've been struck by how little overall information has come from the MD or Leach camps. The silence is telling...I think. No denials. No no clarifications. Nothing. If I didn't know any better, and why would I know anything from the Post's lack of reporting, I'd say Leach is a done deal.

If not, it's the biggest kick in the groin.

Posted by: WheelsRI | December 31, 2010 5:14 PM | Report abuse

It does seem pretty lame...when it was time to bash the Terps for bowl attendance, we were getting updates every 10 minutes...now, with the biggest event in UMD Football in 25 years...silence...zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Posted by: TerpfanMA | December 31, 2010 6:00 PM | Report abuse

I'm of no mind to stick up for the Post's Maryland coverage recently but they did have an article last night/this morning about the Leach interview and him spending additional time with Loh and Anderson last night.

Posted by: jake177 | December 31, 2010 7:04 PM | Report abuse

He has not commented on whether he thinks his negative columns about fan attendance may have been a contributing facor in Fridge's firing. He has yet to even acknowledge that he was wrong about Terp fans's support for the Military Bowl. He was wrong about so many things and owes Terp fans an apology. But we have heard nothing from him. That makes him a gutless coward in my book. Like I said, he is a real piece of work.

Posted by: smitch6087 | December 31, 2010 11:15 AM | Report abuse


Do you understand what a newspaper is? If you think bowl committees and athletic directors of Division I schools are getting their ideas from a sports blog, I have to question your intelligence. If you believe that Eric Prisbell contributed to Friedgen being fired, you are stupid. Obviously the majority of the high dollar donors and "season ticket holders" were supportive of the move or they wouldn't have done it. Yes, the athletic department definitely could have handled the whole thing better, but what's done is done. Try to move on.

Posted by: marylandarlington | December 31, 2010 12:09 PM | Report abuse

Marylandarlington - Do you think that you could have responded to my post without resulting to insults? While I admit to making many negative comments about Mr. Prisbell (he is a paid journalist and it comes with the territory), I have always try to treat my fellow posters with respect. It is a shame that you could not extend to me the same courtesy. Call me naive, but I believe we can have civilized disagreements without resorting to calling someone "stupid" or "questioning" their intelligence. In the future, if you chose to respond to one of my posts, I request that you stick to discussion of the issues and dump the name calling. Thanks.

Posted by: smitch6087 | January 1, 2011 12:31 AM | Report abuse

Are others as worried about this Rich Rod rumor as I am? This guy's a joke. An underachiever at a place that has as many resources as anywhere else and a dirty coach to boot? If we're really concerned about integrity Rich Rod shouldn't even be in the conversation...

Posted by: caphillterp | January 1, 2011 10:12 AM | Report abuse

Biggest Terp Football story in decades and, as mentioned above, the Post is AWOL.

Are there any real journalists left outside of the WSJ?

Balt Sun is taking Prisbell & Co. to school.

The Post, in its current form, is a weak imitation of the old Journal Newspapers.

Posted by: MerlinTerps | January 1, 2011 10:58 AM | Report abuse

TerpfanMA, when the AD says he wants to go from "good" to "great" that implies doing something Raplph did not. That would be winning a BCS bowl and NC. If these goals are not met w/ potentially the best QB in the history of UMD football I think he should be fired. High standards cut both ways. Comprende?

Posted by: Realness1 | January 1, 2011 12:55 PM | Report abuse

As well as the coaches should they fail the "great" expectations.

Posted by: Realness1 | January 1, 2011 1:08 PM | Report abuse

If you want to win more people over, you might try not name-calling...

Posted by: marylandarlington | December 29, 2010 10:26 PM | Report abuse

I have to question your intelligence. If you believe that Eric Prisbell contributed to Friedgen being fired, you are stupid.

Posted by: marylandarlington | December 31, 2010 12:09 PM | Report abuse

Lol. I too would have to question the intelligence of someone who comes on here lecturing us about the evils of name-calling, and then the very next day calls people stupid and unintelligent.

One of the best things about this blog is seeing stupid people like marylandarglington come on here and make a fool of themselves.

Posted by: Barno1 | January 1, 2011 1:26 PM | Report abuse

Meh, 2 days later...not the very next day.

Posted by: Barno1 | January 1, 2011 1:27 PM | Report abuse

Ralph's record was 31-8 his first 3 years and 44-42 the last 7 years. A weak schedule and coming off a 2-10 year led to poor attendance this year. I made sure I made it to the Military Bowl to thank him. I wish the firing had been handled better, but I understand. I am here to support the kids and the program for the future. We are all here to do the same, I hope.

Posted by: paul_jgraham | January 1, 2011 3:08 PM | Report abuse

"Again.....we have to compete with TWO NFL teams within 30 miles of Byrd, we came off a terrible year and had a very weak home schedule.

Posted by: steven09 | December 30, 2010 10:40 AM"
-->Exact reasons why it's unrealistic to expect Fridge (or any other coach) to sell out Byrd on a regular basis. Maryland football will always lag behind these two programs especially when people wear their Skins or Ravens apparel to the Terps football games.

You think people wear Saints apparel to LSU games OR Jags or Bucs apparel to UF games?

Posted by: break20 | January 1, 2011 4:18 PM | Report abuse

Boy, can't wait to see that Rich Rod or Mike Leach spread at MD. Passing all day long, worn out defense. Yep, that's my idea of "big time" college football. Remember the mantra lemmings: "Good to Great".

Posted by: Terps85 | January 1, 2011 4:46 PM | Report abuse

Not that it really changes anything, but Mississippi State just made it even easier for Dave "Pizza guy" Brandon to fire Rodriguez at Michigan. I will get a little depressed if he is even considered by Maryland.

Posted by: jake177 | January 1, 2011 4:56 PM | Report abuse

Realness...it takes more than just a QB to get to the championship...there are a number of upgrades required to the football team....there is also room in the shortrun to improve on Ralph without getting to the championship, although that should be a goal but not something you are fired for if you dont get there in 2 seasons...

Again, it seems like there is a lot of bitterness about what happened to Ralph and that is being directed at the new football coach (whoever that turns out to be)....I wonder where all the Ralph supporters are who said that UMD couldnt be great and should just be happy with what we have...now all of a sudden is NC in 3 years or get fired!

What a pendulum swing!

I am not going to get into Ralph bashing but there is evidence to suggest that the program had stagnated under his leadership...everyone pointing to Ralphs future prospects had he remained at UMD ties him directly to DOB...If he had stayed at UMD, what would the prognosis be if DOB got injured or left early for the NFL..Then what?????

Posted by: TerpfanMA | January 1, 2011 8:49 PM | Report abuse

With Fridge next year I was predicting 10-2.
With the new coach and the learning curve required, I'm predicting 8-4

Posted by: fushezzi | January 1, 2011 8:51 PM | Report abuse

There wasn't a sudden change by the fans, there was a game changer by SlAnderson. He made a business decision so now it's all business. Sorry, but if we don't have a NC contender in 3 years the new hire should be fired as well as SlAnderson. Nothing personal, but that's the way big-time programs work.

If/when Rich Rod gets fired, I believe he will wind up at Pitt now that they have already fired Mike Haywood. Marvin Lewis might be a nice fit there as well.

If MD wants to seriously make a modern run at a NC, they should lower their admissions standards, finally pay the assistants a decent salary, slim down to 16 sports (like VPI, FSU, WVU), hire Locksley, and start making plans to complete the stadium expansions. Short of this we'll just be treading water.

Posted by: Terps85 | January 1, 2011 9:01 PM | Report abuse

It has ALWAYS been a business decision..BOTH Ralph and MD knew this...none of it was charity...and dont forget, Andersons predecessor tried to do exactly the same thing...hiring Ralph was business...his huge salary raise was business and firing him was business

Posted by: TerpfanMA | January 1, 2011 9:23 PM | Report abuse

Evaluation of KA will be pretty straightforward. 10 wins minimum next season. Simple enough. Similar for the next few years.

Though I dislike the decision to fire RF, I understand WHY he did it. But he gets an 'F' for style thus far. Wonder what he'll do if comp cheer Doesn't make the NC.

In terms of the next coach, not terribly concerned WHO it is as much as thatnthey are put in a position to win. That said, Would not use ECU as an indicator for Leach; ECU ran the 'false start' play way too often to be successful. Suspect TT was never that sloppy.

Regards-

-hgr

Posted by: HughGRection | January 1, 2011 9:42 PM | Report abuse

Just a shout out to Pitt for making our coaching mess look mundane. Way to go Pitt and thanks.

Posted by: erniegogo | January 1, 2011 9:53 PM | Report abuse

If MD wants to seriously make a modern run at a NC, they should lower their admissions standards, finally pay the assistants a decent salary, slim down to 16 sports (like VPI, FSU, WVU), hire Locksley, and start making plans to complete the stadium expansions. Short of this we'll just be treading water.


Posted by: Terps85 | January 1, 2011 9:01 PM | Report abuse


Thanks for that info Terps85. I am shocked to find out that FSU and WVU have only 16 sports teams. I went to their websites and verified it (I think FSU actually has 17 sports teams but your point is well taken). Why, on earth, does Maryland have 27 teams? I had assumed that we needed it for Title IX, but it is obvious that other state universities are meeting their Title IX requirements by reducing the number of teams. Why doesn't Maryland? While I would hate to see some teams go, that is far better than cheating the fans who pay to see Terps football or baskteball. Yes, I do mean CHEATING THE FANS. Fans who support Maryland football & basketball through their ticket purchase or donations have every right to expect that the University use that money to support those programs, to the maximum extent possible. Gary Williams should not be restricted from paying his assistants a competive salary because the money is needed to support a water polo team.

Posted by: smitch6087 | January 2, 2011 12:56 AM | Report abuse

Terps85 and Smitch, you are treading into very politically incorrect waters. Tread carefully, there are certain people on here that aren't comfortable allowing others to speak freely about controversial issues.

Posted by: Barno1 | January 2, 2011 10:52 AM | Report abuse

smitch has it EXACTLY right. I am not going to name specific sports/teams that should be cut, but that is the direction we should go. Those teams can do what Cal is doing be making those teams "club" teams. If they can't do that then cut them. I'm not saying Title 9 isn't important, we should cut men's and women's teams.

Posted by: petecard | January 2, 2011 11:14 AM | Report abuse

A long, long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away...some MD president and AD made a decision to field an athletic program rivaling Dook, UNC, BooVA, and Stanford. So it's been since I can remember.

Title IX and D-1 football are toxic to male sports at the intercollegiate level. Because football eats 85 male scholarships, it takes 5 or 6 womens sports to make up that number. Title IX says that the amount of financial aid granted must match the male-female demographic split of the institution. So if MD's larger student body is 50-50 male/female, MD's athletic grant-in-aid must be split 50-50 between mens and womens sports. Football kills this.

That's why you see VT and the like fielding few mens teams and several womens teams. Kansas has like 13 sports: 4 mens and 9 womens.

So what do you cut from the mens side? You can't cut from the womens side(how do you think competitive cheering became a scholarship sport to begin with?). Do you cut lacrosse? Soccer? Swimming? Golf? Track and Field? To cut 1 womens sport, you'd probably have to cut 4 or 5 mens sports just to account for football's role in scholarship count.

That's how you get to 17 sports...cut 8 mens sports and 2 womens. So which ones?

OR...you raise student fees, ticket prices, expand stadiums, etc to gain revenue. It's almost like our current political situation: Do you cut programs, raise, taxes, or do both?

I'd hate to see sports like lacrosse get cut. I'm sure some of you would hate to see soccer get the axe, too.

Posted by: WheelsRI | January 2, 2011 12:02 PM | Report abuse

Christ, where in God's name did the name of Rich Rodriguez come from? Hopefully only from his agent. If anyone on the Search Committee suggested that name, they should be immediately dismissed, for a variety of reasons. In catching up on the posts, I was horrified to see his name thrown out there. BTW, Terp fans could learn more about the coaching search from Chick Hernandez at CSNWashington that they can apparently learn here.

I hope the Committee is not rushing to judgment to hire someone by January 4th. This is NOT a decision to be made quickly or lightly. I would rather lose part of a recruiting class than hire the wrong guy because the decision was made hastily. A responsible (and veteran) AD would take this into consideration. Not sure from what I've seen that the Terps have that AD.

Posted by: LeeM9308 | January 2, 2011 12:20 PM | Report abuse

Looks like its Edsall from UCONN. If this is true, then I feel like I got conned by Kevin Anderson.

Posted by: rich263 | January 2, 2011 2:12 PM | Report abuse

Chick Hernandez at CSN is reporting that Randy Edsall from UConn is on campus and is expected to be the next Terps football coach. Prisbell & Yanda are reporting only that Edsall is now the front runner.

Posted by: LeeM9308 | January 2, 2011 2:13 PM | Report abuse

Joe Schad says it is Randy Edsall. Well, Edsall does seem to have done pretty well in a place that is football nowheresville. We shall see.

Posted by: jake177 | January 2, 2011 2:35 PM | Report abuse

I dont see how Edsall is an upgrade at all...as silly as this sounds, I would have preferred sticking with Fridge over this guy...he sounds like another Duffner

Posted by: TerpfanMA | January 2, 2011 2:45 PM | Report abuse

Anderson fires Ralph for Edsall? Did anyone watch the UConn-OU game last night? UConn hadn't scored an offensive TD in 3 games. That is going to fill the stands at Byrd?

I was excited about Leach. Edsall is not an upgrade over Ralph at all. What a letdown. This is a terrible hire. It's a boring hire. It's a safe hire. It's nothing that Anderson said he'd deliver.

Who is excited about Edsall? Who wants to buy season tickets for Edsall? UConn can't even fill its own stadium, and it's smaller than Byrd.

I'm shocked by this. I should have known better. Maryland always has a way of letting me down. I was ready to buy season tickets and travel 300 miles to see MD games under Leach. Now? Nope. No chance. This is a terrible hire. Terrible.

Anderson has failed.

Posted by: WheelsRI | January 2, 2011 3:12 PM | Report abuse

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