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Posted at 7:07 PM ET, 12/ 8/2010

Terps Stick with Starters for UNC Greensboro

By Liz Clarke


Despite benching all but one of his starters to make a point about their lackluster effort against Temple on Sunday, tt looks as if Maryland Coach Gary Williams will stick with his starters for Wednesday’s game against 0-7 UNC Greensboro at Comcast Center.

At least there was no change in the numbers listed on the scoreboard roughly nine minutes before tip-off.

Williams sent a strong message about his disappointment over the lack of intensity in Sunday’s game against Temple by yanking all but sophomore Jordan Williams early in the second half.

It was the second consecutive game in which Maryland’s starters had opened poorly. While they rebounded impressively to defeat Penn State on Dec. 1, the Terps fell to Temple, 64-61, despite a furious rally that negated a 15-point, second-half deficit with just minutes remaining.

The Terps’ bench accounted for 35 of the team’s 61 points in the loss, with Jordan Williams and freshman Terrell Stoglin the only players to finish in double-figures.

By Liz Clarke  | December 8, 2010; 7:07 PM ET
Categories:  Gary Williams, Men's basketball  
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Comments

I'm disappointed. But I'm not the coach.

Posted by: petecard | December 8, 2010 7:27 PM | Report abuse

"It's frustrating because we really could be undefeated right now," Jordan Williams said. "A couple plays here and there, a couple loose balls, some free throws and we're undefeated. We know how good we can be."

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From the dback. Exactly how we want our star and team leader to feel. And this is after winning a game by 43 points.

So PH took his tuen to kinda disappear, but between AB an TS, did it matter? JP continued his improved play but also continued his wretched FT shooting. BW had 4 blocks and 7 points but seemed out of position on a few rebounds. DG had a quiet statistical game BUT kept possession for the team (either by letting a ball go out on an UNC_G player or tipping a loose ball to a teammate.

Gentlemen, I think we have 4 productive bigs. We really need to see JP continue to improve, and at times BW looks a little out of focus. However, the consistent Achilles heel of the program for the last three seasons has been rebounding, and I think this team is making strides to improve on the boards. Dave Neal is no longer our big, LM is no longer playing out of position, and JP is emerging. I thought we'd see AP (and EL) play, but HP is showing great instincts in the paint and hustle as an almost-big (kinda like LM was forced to play the position). BW still has a ways to go, but seems to be ahead of Ryan Randle (but behind Jamar Smith) at the same points after their JUCO xfers to MD.

If we rebound well, we win. Other teams are then forced to play catch-up. FT% obviously still needs to improve, but I'm glad GW used the patsy opportunity to get his depth on the floor for meaningful minutes prior to the start of ACC play.

I think the argument of PH/TS/AB at PG should continue unabated as it is unclear to me that we'll have a consistent optimal solution over the course of the entire season. However, from among those three, I think we'll find a hot hand at PG during every game of the season.

Regards -

-hgr

Posted by: HughGRection | December 9, 2010 7:51 AM | Report abuse

The one-handed dunk by JW was sweet. JW had better freethrow shooting as well. They won that game big. Hopefully they'll continue to improve.

Posted by: SirPelleas | December 9, 2010 9:08 AM | Report abuse

It is frustrating to spend 2+ hours watching the asinine "Gametracker." They really play with you on the shot monitor. It's a joke.

But here is a question for my fellow TI posters: What can we really glean from this game? Not seeing the play, I am assuming that the match-ups were not very challenging. Bowie his some shots, but do we really think he should be a PG? Isn't Stoglin clearly the best choice to start in place of him? Did we really learn anything about our bigs against this team? Please provide some input here. Thanks.

Posted by: petecard | December 9, 2010 9:31 AM | Report abuse

I think HGR said it best. I think we learned that JW is the real-deal. He has a tremendous presence inside, can rebound, and can score quickly. He also lost some weight, so he can the floor much quicker.

With that said, there is still some uncertainty because conference play hasn't started yet (and those players are more competitive), but we should be encouraged by the team's start this year.

Posted by: SirPelleas | December 9, 2010 9:56 AM | Report abuse

The game was pretty boring. The outcome was never in doubt. Some things I took from it:

- Cliff Tucker can stroke it, I just wished he'd stroke it more consistently, especially against good comp.

- Mychel Parker has a short stride and heavy feat. He's a very awkward on the run. His assertiveness last night was encouraging but again, the competition allowed both his playing time and assertiveness.

- JW, nothing more needs to be said.

- Still not sold on Bowie. Still think Stoglin needs to be LESS aggressive at times (not always). Still think Pe needs more PT.

- Weis can really get up and down the court for a big man. He may not be a huge contributor on this team but I never cringe when he's on the court. He is always hustling (see from behind rejection in 2nd half of last nights game - even though I thought it was goal-tending), and alters shots if nothing else.

- Keep waiting for paulson to have a breakout game. He's the king of hitting 3s after the whistle.

We'll find out more about this team against BC. The UNCW game was simply a tool to regain some confidence.

Posted by: fushezzi | December 9, 2010 10:07 AM | Report abuse

It does really look like Pankey is in line to red shirt.

A solid game from the entire team, but they still have things to work on. Mosely needs to learn how to create his own shot. If he's not getting shots through the normal flow of the flex, he doesn't get anything. All the improvement last year was obviously because of quality PG play, and without a great PG, Mosely is not getting the ball in position to score, which is very disappointing for a player of his caliber. Even his defense has not been that great as he seems scared to man up with smaller, faster guards, afraid of getting blown by.

Jordan is the most impressive true big man I've seen this year, and I've watched quite a bit of CBB this season. It's amazing to me that the only defense teams have come up for him is to try to get him into foul trouble. He plays like a man among boys as he muscles his way to the basket whenever he wants. Temple threw double-teams at him from just about every direction (ball defender, off wing, and helpside post), and he just pushed guys out of the way to get to the hoop. I'm sure someone will eventually try the Shane Battier defense on him (flop on the floor like a fish at the first hint of contact), but I don't think even that would stop him.

Stoglin was solid, and he could very well become the second scoring option this team needs if he can learn to make smarter decisions within the context of the offense. Him and Howard both seem completely lost when they actually try to run sets. Both defer to contested jump shots or driving into double teams when the first rotation of a set doesn't yield an open shot. Howard needs to learn to use screens better, and perhaps a better grasp of the offense will give him some better looks at the basket. He hasn't really found himself open on the wing for open shots this season when playing the 2, which typically is a result of him not running through the set correctly. Gary hasn't changed his sets much in the past 8-10 years, so maybe it looks easy to me because I've seen them run for so long, but it's frustrating when you see all of these guys run sets so sloppy, especially if the first motion of the ball it inside to Jordan. With such a powerful inside force, the inside-out game should be deadly, but for whatever reason, the wing players are not making the necessary moves to free themselves from their defenders.

Padgett was solid, and Gary might have found himself a solid 4-man front line rotation with Weijs, Padgett, Dino, and Jordan. James still looks lost within the offense frequently, and completely out of sorts on defense when he is not on the ball-side of the court, but he definitely seems more comfortable than the first couple games of the season.

The Terps will need to play lock-down defensively against BC, especially against Trapani and Jackson, but if they put forth a similar effor to what they did last night, it should lead to the first conference win of the season.

Posted by: Russtinator | December 9, 2010 10:14 AM | Report abuse

It's only goaltending if the shot is coming down. Even though it hit the glass first, it was still on the way up. The old rule stated that once it hit glass, the ball couldn't be touched but they changed that not long ago.

This was a very undersized team that has not won a game yet. It was a confidence builder and we shot the ball well and got some of the very young guys playing time. They're going to redshirt Pankey because they don't need another foot situation like they did the previous years with the one guy who's name completely escapes me right now. He was uber athletic but very raw.

Posted by: DiehardTerp | December 9, 2010 10:26 AM | Report abuse

Burney, that was the guy.

Posted by: DiehardTerp | December 9, 2010 10:35 AM | Report abuse

Why do we get 500 posts a day about football when they aren't playing a game for three weeks and a post about basketball every couple days? I know they're not into the ACC part of the season yet, but I feel like there should be some kind of post-game wrap-up? No?

Posted by: Gnillew9 | December 9, 2010 10:49 AM | Report abuse

GNillew9

For that, go to:

www.testudotimes.com

Posted by: fushezzi | December 9, 2010 11:11 AM | Report abuse

Beat them the way they should. 24/15 - a/to's, Only shot 62 from the line though. Ran better half court sets and shared the ball.

Posted by: Realness1 | December 9, 2010 11:23 AM | Report abuse

Gnillew9, It's the difference between Liz and Eric. She may be afraid of the posters on this site. Bet she won't post anything that can be "attacked." It may be a long season for us on TI with BB.

Posted by: petecard | December 9, 2010 12:24 PM | Report abuse

Petecard already attacked our new beat reporter. Sheesh. Liz is a fine reporter with no agenda, let the woman do her job without needlessly criticizing her for PETE's sake.

Posted by: Barno1 | December 9, 2010 1:58 PM | Report abuse

Petecard already attacked our new beat reporter. Sheesh. Liz is a fine reporter with no agenda, let the woman do her job without needlessly criticizing her for PETE's sake.

Posted by: Barno1 | December 9, 2010 1:58 PM | Report abuse

You have to admit, coverage of the basketball team beyond gamers and TI posts about game stories is pretty sparce coverage for a widely followed team. It's clear that the beat reporter is not going to do multi-part stories on the state of Maryland basketball recruiting or dozens of posts about NCAA Tournament selection months in advance, but some discussion or stories about the team would be nice. Very little has been discussed here about Faust, aside from the announcement---when Gary wasn't even permitted to comment, but now is. Very little has been written about Sterling Gibbs aside from being the brother of the Pitt guard in the gamer a month ago. What about a story about Ashton Pankey and Mychal Parker, and why both are sitting at the end of the bench, especially when Parker was considered the most highly regarded recruit in his class?

We don't necessarily get the stories we want out of Prisbell (we still haven't seen a word about Max Garcia and his injury outside of the gamer where he got hurt), but at least he keeps the team at the forefront of TI. With basketball season getting into full swing, we should be getting at least one post per day about the team, regardless of if they play a game that day or played the night before. That's the job of a beat reporter.

Posted by: Russtinator | December 9, 2010 2:38 PM | Report abuse

That's the point I was making, Russ. I think Liz is a good writer and I am asking for more, not less. If this was facebook at least we would have a wall to write on. Here, without a post by one of the writers we are left to add endless trails on old posts. Surely WaPo must be aware of this.

One thing interesting in Liz's article this AM was her comment about GW's awareness of the "internet" jabber about the starting line-up. Guess he at least has someone looking at what is written...

Posted by: petecard | December 9, 2010 3:04 PM | Report abuse

That's the point I was making, Russ. I think Liz is a good writer and I am asking for more, not less. If this was facebook at least we would have a wall to write on. Here, without a post by one of the writers we are left to add endless trails on old posts. Surely WaPo must be aware of this.

One thing interesting in Liz's article this AM was her comment about GW's awareness of the "internet" jabber about the starting line-up. Guess he at least has someone looking at what is written...

Posted by: petecard | December 9, 2010 3:04 PM | Report abuse

If you re-read my post, I think you'll notice that I'm with you. A beat reporter should be generating stories on a regular basis, and that has come to include, in today's day and age, posts to blogs like TI. I'm 100% with you that there is not enough coverage on TI for the men's basketball team, which is supposed to be the premier athletic team at the University of Maryland.

Posted by: Russtinator | December 9, 2010 4:24 PM | Report abuse

Yes, I know you agreed with me on that. My comments related to Barno's criticism of my comments about Liz. It wasn't about her skills it was about her absence.

Posted by: petecard | December 9, 2010 4:52 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone have anything useful to post or talk about other than criticizing Eric or Liz all of the time? The responses are getting lame and way off topic whether it's basketball or football.

Posted by: DiehardTerp | December 9, 2010 6:59 PM | Report abuse

How about Temple up 39-32 over G'Town at the half. It'd make me a little happier if Temple could hold on. Of course it would have made me a lot happier if MD could have pulled it out over Temple and then Temple could beat G'Town. Oh, well.

Posted by: acebojangles | December 9, 2010 10:00 PM | Report abuse

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