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Posted at 7:07 AM ET, 02/24/2011

Maryland vs. Florida State: Empty seats for a strong defensive stand

By Liz Clarke

It wasn’t yet spring break. And while it’s a popular time for midterms, Wednesday night wasn’t exactly the heart of exam season for Maryland undergraduates, either.

So when Maryland took on Florida State with the Terrapins' slim postseason hopes in the balance, the empty seats in the student section at Comcast Center were puzzling for a team that has enjoyed such fervent support at home. (The official attendance was 15,186.)

Those who skipped the 9 p.m. tipoff missed the sort of victory that Coach Gary Williams has worked toward all season — one in which all players shoulder their load, defense rules the day and the Terrapins fight harder in the second half than the first.

“It has been building,” said senior guard Adrian Bowie, who came off the bench to contribute 12 points on 4-of-5 shooting while dishing six assists.

Against the nation’s best in field-goal percentage defense, Maryland was efficient and consistent on offense, shooting 52 percent in each half. (Only North Carolina has shot better against Florida State this season, 55.7 percent). With most big bodies devoted to their sophomore center Jordan Williams, the Terps made seven of 14 attempts from beyond the arc, with freshman point guard Terrell Stoglin accounting for three.

And after letting a nine-point lead get whacked to one in the last four minutes of the first half, Maryland played what Coach Gary Williams deemed its best man-to-man defense of the season in the second half.

“We have a lot of pride,” Coach Williams said. “We weren’t happy with what we did. We talked about it at half-time: ‘We’re better than that. Why give back that lead after we worked so hard to get it?’”

After shooting 46.7 percent in the first half, the Seminoles hit just nine of their 23 attempts from the field (39.1 percent) in the second half.

“It’s a tremendous effort, especially on the defensive end of the court,” Coach Williams said. “You don’t do that without all five guys being involved, especially against a team like that, with the size and quickness they have.”

Jordan Williams was the most transformed. Limited to one shot and five rebounds in the first half, he came out thundering against the big men who had blanketed him early to finished with 11 rebounds (all on the defensive end) and 11 points.

“I probably played the best defense I’ve played since I’ve been here,” Jordan Williams said. “It was a matter of me getting tired of not playing up to my ability, defense-wise.”

Said Florida State Coach Leonard Hamilton: “We hold most of our opponents to about 35 percent, and they shot 52 percent. That speaks for itself. They executed very well, and they were patient.”

Heading into Sunday’s game at North Carolina, Maryland (18-10, 7-6) is tied with Clemson for fifth in the ACC standings.

By Liz Clarke  | February 24, 2011; 7:07 AM ET
Categories:  Gary Williams, Jordan Williams, Men's basketball  | Tags:  Florida State, Gary Williams, Jordan Williams, Maryland basketball  
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Comments

Nice win for UMD! We are still alive!

Posted by: TerpfanMA | February 24, 2011 7:45 AM | Report abuse

Did EMPTY SEATS really need to be the first 2 words in the story title of a big win for the Terps? Liz, is the glass half full or half empty? Are you trying to plant seeds in KAs head?

Posted by: TerpfanMA | February 24, 2011 7:48 AM | Report abuse

I am confused. Maryland won for the second time in a row in the ACC. According to Mike Wise, Jordan Williams still does not have a second bannana to help him shoulder the scoring load. Jordan scored 11 points in a 16 point win against the top defensive team in Division I. I think he was the Terps 4th best scorer in the game. Where is Mike's column disrespecting the Terps today. His ax that he uses to grind against the Terps is missing. Mike needs to research his columns better in the future.

I noticed the empty seats in the student section also but there were empty student section seats at the Sunday NC State game. The paying attendance seems to be OK for the most part. But the Terps empty seats seem pale in comparison to the empty seats that I saw on TV at Georgia Tech, BC, Wake, and Virginia. I think the recession is a factor in attendance at all the large arenas like Comcast and the team records are also a factor.

If we are going to cover the Terps empty seats lets be consistent and report it everywhere. The BC arena is small, it is half empty for ACC games, and the Eagles are in the hunt for a bid to the big dance? Lets report it consistently and Comcast has one of the better attendance records in the Conference this year. It is a down year for the ACC and the recession seems to affect everything. Still it would be nice to fill all the seats even when it is an announced a sell out.

Posted by: torope | February 24, 2011 8:28 AM | Report abuse

Current students at UMD blow, that's all. Should open up the good student seating to alumni. Let all the students sit on the wall.

Posted by: khornbeak | February 24, 2011 8:30 AM | Report abuse

Best quote from the student section last night:

"Leonard Hamilton, you're the worst coach the Wizards ever had!"

Great win - Thanks to the gentleman who gave me and my wife Section 101 Row A tickets :)

Posted by: NaptownTerrapin | February 24, 2011 8:34 AM | Report abuse

With six newcomers on the team, it's not surprising that it has taken them a while to start to jell. Jordan has been great throughout the season, and Moseley always plays hard but is not a great scorer. Aside from those two, Gary had to experiment a lot to figure out who's who on the team, but it's taking shape nicely now.

If they make the Tourney, they could very well get to the Sweet 16. They're good enough now to be in, but may end up on the outside due to so many close losses earlier on (due in large part to poor foul shooting). Dino has found his mid-range jumper, Williams has settled down at the FT line, and Stoglin has emerged. Even if they don't make the dance, this is a pretty good team.

Posted by: SmittyATL | February 24, 2011 9:16 AM | Report abuse

A win at UNC won't guarantee anything, but will get the Terps back in the NCAA Tournament conversation. One step at a time.

Posted by: SmittyATL | February 24, 2011 9:17 AM | Report abuse

I couldnt believe the empty student seats. It looked awful on TV (well, the computer, but whatever)

Posted by: jpfterps | February 24, 2011 9:19 AM | Report abuse

9:00 games on a Wednesday night just for TV. A Maryland Team that has been very disappointing. Melo and the Knicks in their first game together. Those missing students got it right!

Posted by: petecard | February 24, 2011 9:22 AM | Report abuse

I'll bet the same people who are sympathizing with last nights attendance, are the same people who cited attendance as a reason to get rid of Ralph. I hate to break it all of you, you can cite the economy or anything else, but this program is a shell of itself.

Posted by: break20 | February 24, 2011 9:31 AM | Report abuse

Current students at UMD blow, that's all. Should open up the good student seating to alumni. Let all the students sit on the wall. Posted by: khornbeak | February 24, 2011 8:30 AM

That's a good point. We faithful Terps fans come from long distances on a cold work night for a 9 am game, with early morning jobs the next day. The students on campus don't bother to walk a few feet. They get the best seats--seats we would love to have.

It's fine if the students don't want to bother coming to the games. It is not a patriotic duty or anything. But if they don't want the best seats, there are plenty who would! We pay thousands (counting "donations") to sit many rows behind those empty seats.

Posted by: EdDC | February 24, 2011 9:31 AM | Report abuse

"empty seats"...i'm not a current student and i'm not sure if the general admission seats had empties as well, but c'mon, sunday night games and 9pm start times during the midweek is stupid. I'd go to some more games, but the cheapest seat in the house is atleast $40! you can buy a uecker at the wiz games for $12 and they atleast sell $10 beers...

the acc and tv people need a reality check...

Posted by: boricuabopper | February 24, 2011 9:33 AM | Report abuse

check that...$45! and that's w/out a parking pass

Posted by: boricuabopper | February 24, 2011 9:38 AM | Report abuse

Best quote from the student section last night:

"Leonard Hamilton, you're the worst coach the Wizards ever had!"

Great win - Thanks to the gentleman who gave me and my wife Section 101 Row A tickets :)

Posted by: NaptownTerrapin | February 24, 2011 8:34 AM | Report abuse

Hah that was me with the Wizards comment. I think I called him Gar Heard amd Ed Tapscott a few times...

The students were pathetic.

Posted by: Barno1 | February 24, 2011 9:39 AM | Report abuse

With UNC game approaching this is the right time for Cliff Tucker to break out of his slump. The Dean Dome has been kind to him in the past. Why not now.

Posted by: torope | February 24, 2011 9:50 AM | Report abuse

Was it just me, or were they're players exceptionally old even for FSU? Obviously, I'll cut them some slack for James, since he was in the military. But what's up with the abundance of 23 year old juniors?


Most of the students have midterms this week, but seriously the lack of fans was pathetic. Get there early, and study for the 90 minutes before the game. It always worked for me.

Posted by: crabcakes | February 24, 2011 9:58 AM | Report abuse

Great point Break20, it is sad to see how empty the place was, especially for a game that was this important. It looked like it wasnt just the student section either, there where a bunch of seats open in the first 10-20 rows at midcourt.

Torope...would love to see Tucker blow up, even if it is for just one game this year, please let it be the UNC game!

Posted by: cm88 | February 24, 2011 10:00 AM | Report abuse

I miss Cole!

We used to bring books and study while waiting for the game to start. Unless you had an exam last night, exams are no excuse.

Perhaps the AD should think about selling discounted student tickets that they know won't get used?

This was a big game and attendance, by everyone but especially from the students, was terrible.

Posted by: steven09 | February 24, 2011 10:32 AM | Report abuse

What about giving the students the whole side sections behind the bench, but turn over the other side sections across the court to alumni and other fans? The students could have the Wall. Plus, for the students who like to go to duke games (but not much else), an upper section could be set aside for them too. True, the upper section would go empty for students who only want to go to the very biggest games. but that's better than having all those courtside seats remain empty for games like those vs. FSU and NC St.

Of course, you could just keep things as they are, if students showed an interest in going to the games. But they don't.

Posted by: EdDC | February 24, 2011 10:43 AM | Report abuse

What is comical is that the student body claims they are the best fans in the ACC, or at least they used to make that claim. But for an important game they are a no show. They are a bunch of front runners.

And please do not blame the economy or the start time for the student section for being half empty. General Admission was at least 3/4 full.

Posted by: dcinmd1 | February 24, 2011 11:11 AM | Report abuse

I noticed the empty seats also, those were student sections?? I have seen the home crowds for Wake and GTech, lots of empty seats so its not just a MD thing. You think George Mason would fill up for a 9pm Wed night game?? And they have a good team this year. Nice to see a Terp game on local tv, ch 20. If you want to be a Top 20 team, get on local tv!!!!

Terps looked good, nice that Singleton was out for FSU. The freshmen continue to look better and better. Maybe pass to Dino more for that jumper above the foul line.

Tucker is still MIA, hopefully he will break out of his funk soon.

Posted by: Redtopper2 | February 24, 2011 11:19 AM | Report abuse

I would argue that there is a core of students who are more fanatic and more intelligent than most student bodies in the ACC. But the student fanbase as a whole is fickle, as students tend to be.

Posted by: NaptownTerrapin | February 24, 2011 11:19 AM | Report abuse

"I miss Cole!

We used to bring books and study while waiting for the game to start. Unless you had an exam last night, exams are no excuse.

Perhaps the AD should think about selling discounted student tickets that they know won't get used?

This was a big game and attendance, by everyone but especially from the students, was terrible.

Posted by: steven09 | February 24, 2011 10:32 AM"
-->I've seen this suggested in a few places and I tend to agree, hit the students where it hurts the most, their allotment of seats. If they can't show up to the non-Duke games make them available to the general public including the Duke game. When you have the Duke as a mid-year game and no incentive to even "swap and leave" then you need to send a message to the student body. The students at MD don't even have to pay a fee to see sporting events, like many other college charge. Maybe thats the problem, they don't think the games have that much value.

Posted by: break20 | February 24, 2011 11:20 AM | Report abuse

I wouldn't pay $12 to sit in the upper sections to watch the Wiz "perform". I'ld rather watch a high school game, at least the amateurs play defense.

Posted by: Redtopper2 | February 24, 2011 11:26 AM | Report abuse

as a student the turn out last night was to say the least a let down, these days people at this school only care about what grade there going to get on their next final or how long can we spend in the library or some crap i mean come on i have four exams today and i was still there last night to support my terps

Posted by: skinsst21 | February 24, 2011 11:52 AM | Report abuse

#38 in the Sagarin ranking today. Third in the ACC.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/bkt1011.htm?loc=interstitialskip

Posted by: steven09 | February 24, 2011 11:56 AM | Report abuse

Maryland basketball is no longer an event, since the Terps haven't had a top ten team in a decade or so. The Terps are still a big deal to alumni trying to relive their glory days, when the Terps were great. It will take a deep run in the ncaa tournament to change this.

Posted by: lkfkd876 | February 24, 2011 11:59 AM | Report abuse

Maryland basketball is no longer an event, since the Terps haven't had a top ten team in a decade or so. The Terps are still a big deal to alumni trying to relive their glory days, when the Terps were great. It will take a deep run in the ncaa tournament to change this.Posted by: lkfkd876 | February 24, 2011 11:59 AM

If that's the standard--top ten--then a couple hundred basketball programs won't be supported. The Terps were tied with duke for most ACC wins as recently as last season. The biggest glory day season was just nine years ago, and Terps have been ACC champs since then.

Posted by: EdDC | February 24, 2011 12:17 PM | Report abuse

This had nothing to do with the economy and no one is suggesting it did. These were students missing, who get tickets for free, not alumni. I guarantee you if we beat North Carolina, we'll be seeing a lot more students at the UVA game. Frontrunning students, a sad day in College Park.

Posted by: Barno1 | February 24, 2011 12:28 PM | Report abuse

Since we are talking about the students who aren't huge basketball fans...9 years ago is a very long time to a 19 year old. I'm guessing it's not so long ago for most of the biggest GW fans.

Posted by: lkfkd876 | February 24, 2011 12:35 PM | Report abuse

being a former student, this crap about students started not showing up started in 06. my junior year, as the college began to bring in smarter kids, gone are the days where regular kids who loves sports were graduating. i can tell u that pre06 every game was full if it were an acc game

Posted by: skinfan2k | February 24, 2011 12:40 PM | Report abuse

Skinfan2k,
Don't you think it might have something to do with the fact that the team hasn't gone past the second round in almost a decade and we are satsified with just making the Tourney. As someone pointed out, a school with a lot of "nerds" to the south sells out all the time.

Also, I love the academics argument. Every school likes to gloat about their academic prestige. I think it's actually easier to get into MD now than it was 5 years ago. And last time, I checked this ain't Harvard. In terms of academic prestige, UVA, UNC, BC, Duke, GTech are all higher than MD. VTech and Miami are in MD's ballpark.

Posted by: break20 | February 24, 2011 1:02 PM | Report abuse

"If that's the standard--top ten--then a couple hundred basketball programs won't be supported. The Terps were tied with duke for most ACC wins as recently as last season. The biggest glory day season was just nine years ago, and Terps have been ACC champs since then.

Posted by: EdDC | February 24, 2011 12:17 PM"
-->Well top 10 might be unrealistic, but getting past the second round once every decade isn't.

Posted by: break20 | February 24, 2011 1:05 PM | Report abuse

"I noticed the empty seats also, those were student sections?? I have seen the home crowds for Wake and GTech, lots of empty seats so its not just a MD thing."
-->Redtopper, is the Wake/GTech standards what we're setting our goals for? Or should it be Duke/UNC?

Posted by: break20 | February 24, 2011 1:09 PM | Report abuse

"What about giving the students the whole side sections behind the bench, but turn over the other side sections across the court to alumni and other fans? The students could have the Wall. Plus, for the students who like to go to duke games (but not much else), an upper section could be set aside for them too. True, the upper section would go empty for students who only want to go to the very biggest games. but that's better than having all those courtside seats remain empty for games like those vs. FSU and NC St.

Of course, you could just keep things as they are, if students showed an interest in going to the games. But they don't.

Posted by: EdDC | February 24, 2011 10:43 AM"
-->If the students don't feel like using their allotment for most games, take it away. Then the demand will go higher. Supply and demand 101, and I sucked at econ.

Posted by: break20 | February 24, 2011 1:11 PM | Report abuse

"Skinfan2k,
Don't you think it might have something to do with the fact that the team hasn't gone past the second round in almost a decade and we are satsified with just making the Tourney. As someone pointed out, a school with a lot of "nerds" to the south sells out all the time."

-------------------------------------

Break, I don't disagree with your argument that perceived lack of success is driving lack of student turnout, but just remember, that school full of "nerds" only seats 9k fans.

Posted by: NaptownTerrapin | February 24, 2011 1:21 PM | Report abuse

"Break, I don't disagree with your argument that perceived lack of success is driving lack of student turnout, but just remember, that school full of "nerds" only seats 9k fans.

Posted by: NaptownTerrapin | February 24, 2011 1:21 PM"
-->How bout another school of Nerds down the road from the forementioned School of Nerds that plays in a self-proclaimed "dome"(not really), they seem to sell out every game too with a bigger capacity and similar start times.

Posted by: break20 | February 24, 2011 1:39 PM | Report abuse

Since we are talking about the students who aren't huge basketball fans...9 years ago is a very long time to a 19 year old. I'm guessing it's not so long ago for most of the biggest GW fans.

Posted by: lkfkd876 | February 24, 2011 12:35 PM | Report abuse

So students should only be interested in attending important late season acc games if they remember our national championship 9 years ago? Sound logic.

How does Vtech fill it's student section every game considering they never even sniff the 2nd round of the ncaa tournament?

Posted by: Barno1 | February 24, 2011 1:43 PM | Report abuse

-->How bout another school of Nerds down the road from the forementioned School of Nerds that plays in a self-proclaimed "dome"(not really), they seem to sell out every game too with a bigger capacity and similar start times.

Posted by: break20 | February 24, 2011 1:39

------------------------------------------

Please reference this link from less than 1 year ago from the illustrious Pat Stevens:

http://d1scourse.typepad.com/blog/2010/05/maryland-no-7-in-average-basketball-attendance.html

So in absolute numbers, we're talking about 1k fans/game - including both students and general admission. Seems like the difference is fairly negligible.

Also, the Dean Dome averages approximately 4k fans/game (18%) below capacity, whereas the Comcast Center averages roughly 1k fans/game (5.5%) below capacity.

Again, these are just details. The big picture is that winning solves all these problems.

Posted by: NaptownTerrapin | February 24, 2011 1:59 PM | Report abuse

"And last time, I checked this ain't Harvard. In terms of academic prestige, UVA, UNC, BC, Duke, GTech are all higher than MD. VTech and Miami are in MD's ballpark"

break20,

Try again (although the Harvard remark was correct).

1 Harvard
18 Johns Hopkins

ACC schools
35 Duke
36 Maryland
41 North Carolina
96 Virginia
The rest of the ACC is below 100.

From 2010 world academic rankings
http://www.arwu.org/

Posted by: tucsonterp | February 24, 2011 2:22 PM | Report abuse

Is Tucson Terp Terrell Stoglin? All those rankings are arbitrary, UNC/UVA are way more selective than MD is. And Duke is definitely way ahead of MD. Sorry I'm not buying that. When I have some time on my hands, ill find some more rankings to disprove the idea that that UNC/UVA are below MD.

Posted by: break20 | February 24, 2011 2:47 PM | Report abuse

Naptown, I'm talking 2011 here, buddy. Do you think UNC/Duke have worse fans than MD? One of the reasons that MD was so successful at Cole I believe is because it was more intimate, no luxury boxes and the seating was all in one bowl other than those corner seats. The bigger arenas feel more sterile, more aloof aka FedEx Field!

On a side note, I'm sure Duke could double it's capacity and still sell out if they wanted too. Look at Syracuse!

Posted by: break20 | February 24, 2011 2:50 PM | Report abuse

Since we are talking about the students who aren't huge basketball fans...9 years ago is a very long time to a 19 year old. I'm guessing it's not so long ago for most of the biggest GW fans.

Posted by: lkfkd876 | February 24, 2011 12:35 PM | Report abuse

Hmmm yeah way too young to remember who Bob Wade was and how painful it was when they where banned from TV.

Students today have no clue what bad actually is.

Posted by: dcinmd1 | February 24, 2011 2:58 PM | Report abuse

Break - Agreed that the Comcast Center lost the intimacy that Cole had. It also has more than 2 bathrooms. Tradeoffs suck.

As for fanhood, of course I don't think UNC or Duke has worse fans than UMD, I just think they're more successful programs, and so more fans turn out. As proof of this theory, UNC's attendance dropped from almost 21k/game in 2000 to 16k/game in 2002 when Doherty was single handedly dismantling their program and then climbed back up to nearly 21k/game by 2004 once Williams was there.

Win and they will come.

Posted by: NaptownTerrapin | February 24, 2011 3:03 PM | Report abuse

dcinmd,
Well that was after Bias scandal and the aftermath of that. Kentucky had a dark period too, just about every school does...

Gary has said multiple times if he knew how bad things we're going to be at MD(at the beginning) he never would've come.

Posted by: break20 | February 24, 2011 3:07 PM | Report abuse

dcinmd,
Well that was after Bias scandal and the aftermath of that. Kentucky had a dark period too, just about every school does...

Gary has said multiple times if he knew how bad things we're going to be at MD(at the beginning) he never would've come.

Posted by: break20 | February 24, 2011 3:07 PM | Report abuse

I see my point when over your head. There was a point in Maryland basketball that we did not assume that run past the second round was a given every year. And that today student wouldn't have a clue about it since Gary been here 20+ years.

Posted by: dcinmd1 | February 24, 2011 4:33 PM | Report abuse

Shhhhh......Don't tell lkfkd876 about Bino Ranson. ;-)

Posted by: steven09 | February 24, 2011 5:19 PM | Report abuse

a) if you are talking about engineering programs, Maryland is now actually BETTER than Harvard.

b) Those Duke nerds only need to fill in 1200 seats, Maryland nerds need to fill in 4000.

How about letting the band play the "you suck" song? how about not blaring music over their cheers and chants? how about creating an atmosphere that feels more like a great college game and not a crappy NBA game?

Maryland also needs to stop selling out to TV and then complain that nobody's in the stands. 9:00 games suck for everyone, even if the tickets are free. I mean I can't wait to go to an 8:00 football game on Labor Day!

Posted by: someguy100 | February 24, 2011 5:29 PM | Report abuse

lol.....The thing that Duke, Carolina and VT have in common is that you only have three choices on a Saturday night, library, basketball or Dairy Queen. ;-)

Posted by: steven09 | February 24, 2011 5:45 PM | Report abuse

Wow--if the students are more concerned with their grades than a bunch of so-so athletes in shorts, there's something wrong? I like sports, but come on, it ain't the be-all and end-all for some people, and there's nothing wrong with that.

For me, my passion for sports took a hit with the 1994 baseball strike, and all the money and arrogance of the athletes and corporate greed, and ridiculous publicly funded stadiums were the final nail in the coffin for me. The cost/benefit equation no longer works when it comes to athletics. A lot of folks are fed up.

And yeah, a 9 p.m. game with early classes or a part-time job the next morning might make some people with actual life goals think twice. So Maryland sells out for TV and the students are supposed to turn their lives upside down for that!? Considering the team's so-so record, it's no wonder that seats are empty.

Posted by: preacherskid | February 24, 2011 7:40 PM | Report abuse

"I see my point when over your head. There was a point in Maryland basketball that we did not assume that run past the second round was a given every year. And that today student wouldn't have a clue about it since Gary been here 20+ years.


Posted by: dcinmd1 | February 24, 2011 4:33 PM"
-->Well under that logic you probably shouldn't have gotten rid of Fridge since he had put the team in a perennial bowl game, something they couldn't do for most of it's history and only once in the decade and a half before he took over between Ross and him.

But back to my point are you satsified with not making it past the second round every year? I'm not...

Posted by: break20 | February 24, 2011 8:37 PM | Report abuse

"a) if you are talking about engineering programs, Maryland is now actually BETTER than Harvard."
-->Ok I'm talking about overall. If you have a Harvard degree, I'd venture to say the vast majority of employers would value that over one from Maryland. Yes, Maryland might have some programs better than Harvard and definitely a better athletics program.

"Maryland also needs to stop selling out to TV and then complain that nobody's in the stands. 9:00 games suck for everyone, even if the tickets are free. I mean I can't wait to go to an 8:00 football game on Labor Day!"
-->It's called TV, the network suits dictate what time the games begin. They could care less about making convinent to the fans. And last time, I checked the Duke game was at 9 PM and that didn't people from going to it.

Posted by: break20 | February 24, 2011 8:46 PM | Report abuse

"Wow--if the students are more concerned with their grades than a bunch of so-so athletes in shorts, there's something wrong? I like sports, but come on, it ain't the be-all and end-all for some people, and there's nothing wrong with that."
-->I'm sure no exams we're scheduled after the Duke game.

"And yeah, a 9 p.m. game with early classes or a part-time job the next morning might make some people with actual life goals think twice. So Maryland sells out for TV and the students are supposed to turn their lives upside down for that!? Considering the team's so-so record, it's no wonder that seats are empty."
-->Already mentioned Duke, but I should point out yesterday was a pretty crucial game for the tourney hopes. Five years ago, it was impossible to get ACC tickets, now you can get them rather easily for games not involving Duke.

Posted by: break20 | February 24, 2011 9:17 PM | Report abuse

Ok I'm talking about overall... than Harvard and definitely a better athletics program.
--> but Maryland has been pumping up its science/engineering programs, which are fields notorious for having nerds that don't care about sports. Unless you think that MIT, Caltech and Chicago have great fans.

It's called TV, the network suits dictate what time the games begin. They could care less about making convinent to the fans.
--> Then I have to ask, why should I care about a team that keeps showing me that they don't care about their fans?

Posted by: someguy100 | February 24, 2011 10:21 PM | Report abuse

Amen, preacherskid! I'm glad lots of students found something better to do with their time than watch a bunch of jocks.

I like sports -- and waste too much time on them -- but OK, I find them fairly entertaining. If many students don't, good for them -- why are most of you acting like they have some moral obligation to attend?

Posted by: spunkydawg1 | February 24, 2011 10:29 PM | Report abuse

"Ok I'm talking about overall... than Harvard and definitely a better athletics program.
--> but Maryland has been pumping up its science/engineering programs, which are fields notorious for having nerds that don't care about sports. Unless you think that MIT, Caltech and Chicago have great fans."
-->First of all those rankings are subjective. Even that being said the vast majority of rankings have Harvard over Maryland in just about every academic category. Do I need to tell you how Duke is also ahead of Maryland in almost every academic area?

"It's called TV, the network suits dictate what time the games begin. They could care less about making convinent to the fans.
--> Then I have to ask, why should I care about a team that keeps showing me that they don't care about their fans?"
-->For someone boosting the Engineering program, I'm guessing your not an English major since I said it was the TV networks who could care less about making it convenient for the fans NOT the school.

Posted by: break20 | February 25, 2011 10:14 AM | Report abuse

"Amen, preacherskid! I'm glad lots of students found something better to do with their time than watch a bunch of jocks.

I like sports -- and waste too much time on them -- but OK, I find them fairly entertaining. If many students don't, good for them -- why are most of you acting like they have some moral obligation to attend?

Posted by: spunkydawg1 | February 24, 2011 10:29 PM"
-->They don't have a moral obligation to go by any means, it just shows our basketball program has lost some of it's luster. But the students seem to be OK with that.

Posted by: break20 | February 25, 2011 10:42 AM | Report abuse

Support your school spunky......or go read the Style section.

Posted by: steven09 | February 25, 2011 5:33 PM | Report abuse

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