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Posted at 7:44 AM ET, 02/16/2011

Terps 16-10 overall; 0-26 in upsets

By Liz Clarke

Things didn’t look good when Maryland started the ACC basketball season 1-3 in league play.

But the outlook for the Terps was decidedly more bleak in the aftermath of Tuesday’s 91-83 defeat at Virginia Tech, which dropped Maryland to 16-10 overall, 5-6 in the ACC.

With five conference games remaining, that puts Maryland at seventh in the ACC standings (same as it was at tip-off) down the stretch of a season in which the ACC is expected to get no more than five teams in the NCAA Tournament.

If the Terps have been consistent at anything this season, it’s at beating the teams they’re expected to beat -- the unranked, out-of-conference foes and back-markers of the ACC -- and losing to teams ahead of them in the standings.

They’ve played 26 games without a shocking result or one that would qualify as an upset. And time is running out to prove they’re capable of staging one.

If form holds, Maryland will win three of its five remaining games, beating N.C. State, currently 3-7 in the ACC; Miami, 4-7; and Virginia, 3-7; but lose to 8-3 Florida State and 9-2 North Carolina. That would bring the Terps to .500 at season's end, in a down year for the ACC.

Maryland, the 2010 ACC co-champions who finished 13-3 in league play last March, was destined to take a step backward this season after losing its three top scorers. All season long, the Terps have sought to compensate for shortcomings on offense with great defense.

That hasn’t worked in the month of February, crunch time to pull away from the middling pack. Instead Maryland has gone 1-3 in league play since Jan. 30, beating only Wake Forest while allowing Duke to shoot 52.6 percent from the field, Boston College, 48.2 percent; and now, Virginia Tech, 45.3 percent. The Terps’ three-point field-goal defense has been a particular liability, with Maryland giving up 10 three-pointers to Duke, 10 to Boston College and nine to Virginia Tech.

By Liz Clarke  | February 16, 2011; 7:44 AM ET
Categories:  Men's basketball  | Tags:  ACC standings, Maryland basketball  
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Comments

broke my heart again... very rudimentary idea... have to play hard for a full 4o minutes...where are the upperclassman? bowie and gregory along with williams have to step it up and what was the crap with missing several key baskets at point blank range? have said since 2002 gary williams has to find a player who can drill those three pointers because this is how close games are won.. if you are behind 3's get you a chance to win ... not sure with this record if a NIT berth will be forcoming...

Posted by: whatbull | February 16, 2011 8:24 AM | Report abuse

I agree with whatbull, a heartbreaker. The freshman are making the seniors look pretty slack. Bowie, Mosely, and Gregory both looked pretty good in some of the early games, but not lately.

Padgett, Pausson, Stoglin, and Howard are going to be big time I believe in the coming years, but right now it's mostly Howard and Stoglin showing a lot of improvement.

Fingers crossed they can do something in the rest of the season, and especially at the ACC tournament.

I hate to even mention it but at this rate they better hope they can at least get in the NIT and pull off a championship there. A small face-saver.

Posted by: tojo45 | February 16, 2011 8:38 AM | Report abuse

I agree with whatbull, a heartbreaker. The freshman are making the seniors look pretty slack. Bowie, Mosely, and Gregory both looked pretty good in some of the early games, but not lately.

Padgett, Pausson, Stoglin, and Howard are going to be big time I believe in the coming years, but right now it's mostly Howard and Stoglin showing a lot of improvement.

Fingers crossed they can do something in the rest of the season, and especially at the ACC tournament.

I hate to even mention it but at this rate they better hope they can at least get in the NIT and pull off a championship there. A small face-saver.

Posted by: tojo45 | February 16, 2011 8:39 AM | Report abuse

Sorry for the dupe post. Got an error the first try and thought it didn't go thru.

Posted by: tojo45 | February 16, 2011 8:40 AM | Report abuse

UMD is capable of getting a lead on every opponent. UMD is in its current position because of the poor game management skills of its perimiter players.

Posted by: Realness1 | February 16, 2011 9:34 AM | Report abuse

Going to the NIT, not a NCAA caliber team, don't desrve to go. It is not complicated. Terps don't have the horses. The seniors are "B" players, we have known that for a while. The younger guys other than JW? Just not there now. Will they be? Hard to say, but we have seen some encuraging play as the year has progressed. The team with the better players won...again. It is really that simple.

Posted by: JLFTerps73 | February 16, 2011 9:48 AM | Report abuse

Going to the NIT, not a NCAA caliber team, don't desrve to go. It is not complicated. Terps don't have the horses. The seniors are "B" players, we have known that for a while. The younger guys other than JW? Just not there now. Will they be? Hard to say, but we have seen some encuraging play as the year has progressed. The team with the better players won...again. It is really that simple.

Posted by: JLFTerps73 | February 16, 2011 9:49 AM | Report abuse

"but lose to 8-3 Florida State"

Covering sports isn't my full time job, but even I know that 8-3 FSU just lost their best player who excelled in many areas for the rest of the season this week. I'll take my chances against FSU.

Posted by: BrokenClipboard | February 16, 2011 10:00 AM | Report abuse

This team, if they play the freshmen, can beat just about anybody. I think Gregory has lived up to his potential and is a good reliable player and deserves to start. Bowie and Tucker should play in a supporting role which they are better at anyway. Palson should sub for Mosely since Mosely does not always bring his best game. Padget needs to get more court time also.

VA Tech is a better team this year than the Terps. I was dissapointed losing twice to BC but losing to the Hokies is not a big suprise. We needed two overtimes to beat them last year in Blacksburg when we had Vasquez and Hayes. I appreciated the effort last night by the Terps. We played well for all but the last 5 minutes. I think we will be a good team next year as the freshmen, Padget, and next years group will make us a better team.

Posted by: torope | February 16, 2011 10:15 AM | Report abuse

So has the flame on the candle of hope officially flickered out for you guys?

More JP, more HP, and as much as I liked AB & CT, sit them for the freshmen. Sit SM as well. I think we'd be mire competitive this year and next with TS, PH, HP & JW as the starters with DG & JP splitting time. Not since the NCM years have I been nearly as disappointed in our seniors.

I miss you GV.

Regards-

-hgr

Posted by: HughGRection | February 16, 2011 10:39 AM | Report abuse

It's possible -- if Charleston and Clemson miss the dance and the Terps lose to FSU and UNC -- for Maryland to lose to every tourney team this season and beat every non-tourney team on their schedule. That is a sad, but astounding possibility.

Posted by: Kev29 | February 16, 2011 10:40 AM | Report abuse

Until this team starts shooting 20% from the three point line there is no damn chance. It's frankly pitiful to watch and everytime a three goes up I yell "NOOOO" like a high school coach.

Posted by: blur991 | February 16, 2011 11:00 AM | Report abuse

sorry I meant 30%

Posted by: blur991 | February 16, 2011 11:02 AM | Report abuse

Definitely looks like a changing of the guard at the guard position. Mosley, Bowie and Tucker continued their streakiness on offense. While Howard and Stoglin looked legit. If they can play like this as freshmen, the sky is the limit for those two. While losing seniors Bowie and Tucker next year might be addition by subtraction.

Posted by: paul6554 | February 16, 2011 11:13 AM | Report abuse

"They’ve played 26 games without a shocking result or one that would qualify as an upset."

I agree that I wouldn't call our win at Penn State an upset, but technically, we were underdogs in that game. At least according to Vegas.

Posted by: Barno1 | February 16, 2011 11:21 AM | Report abuse

What is the deal with Parker? He missed last nights game for an academic reason. Has Gary washed his hands with him. I hope not.

Posted by: torope | February 16, 2011 11:28 AM | Report abuse

When you allow 50 points in the second half, on the road, there is very little chance of you winning.

Posted by: terpfan4141 | February 16, 2011 11:45 AM | Report abuse

Barno, you definitely are a fan, which is great. But even if it is 1-25, dont you see that we shouldnt even be in this place right now.

I was out of the country, but I saw that you where arguing that we shouldnt give up yet, because of the way "gary" rallied the teams in certain years that we squeeked into the NCAA's. Cant you see yet that, that is the issue??? We are missing the NCAA's or squeeking/rallying to get in at the last moment...dont you think, if Gary is such a great coach, that we shouldnt be squeeking in for the past 8 years or not making it??? Seriously, think about it, MD is a basketball school as one guy posted, just like Fl is a Football state and school, we shouldnt be this pathetic.

Again, you are obviously a fan and I commend you for still having hope, but isnt it pathetic that we are hoping EVERY year now??? Even last year we where hoping because we sucked going into the ACC reg season, luckily the ACC sucked so we got in.

Is that what you want to keep happening for this program? i.e. Gary's program???

And please, as Restonhoops said in an earlier post, stop with the What ifs, when it comes to other coaches or no one would be able to carry this program, etc. This is a great school and area to coach a Bball team at, coaches would love to come here and recruit from this backyard.

Can we really do worse than Gary is doing? Yes we could, be can we do better, absolutely,,,8 years with a 4th NIT looming and early exits into the NCAAs the other 4 years/squeeking in, does not sound like the MD program either of us want.

Posted by: cm88 | February 16, 2011 11:47 AM | Report abuse

Big difference between Vasquez and Hayes vs. Stoglin and Howard in terms of experiene. I didn't expect Tucker or Bowie to become big-time scores after being role players their entire careers. MD had beaten the teams it should, and been very competitive against the better team like Duke, Villanova, and Illinois. The Terps are performing up expectations which should be 8-8 in the ACC and about 18 wins overall. They simply aren't as good as VA Tech or BC this year which is the difference between being getting and NCAA or an NIT bid. It's going to take at least two wins in the ACC tourney, maybe even winning it all to get an NCAA bid.

Posted by: wizfan89 | February 16, 2011 11:58 AM | Report abuse

Barno, you definitely are a fan, which is great. But even if it is 1-25, dont you see that we shouldnt even be in this place right now.

Cm88, I know you can't help it. You're just not very smart, and that's not your fault. Your constant misuse of apostrophes is evidence enough. But I think someone should point out to you that we aren't actually 1-25 in upsets; there haven't been 26 games in which we were underdogs.

Also I think you need to stop with the "squeaking in" comments. We squeaked in once in the last 8 years, 2009, as a 10 seed. In the other years we were no worse than a 4 seed. That means we were one of the 13-16 best teams in the country on Selection Sunday. That is not "squeaking in" by any standard.

According to Certified Moron88's delusional world, you are "squeaking in" if you haven't wrapped up your bid with a month left in the regular season. Never mind the fact that only a few teams in the country have wrapped up bids that early. The vast majority of at large teams have work to do in the final weeks in order to earn their bids. They can't all be "squeaking in."

Again, I know this isn't your fault for not understand this stuff. You can't help it, you just don't have a high IQ. It's like Robin Williams says to Will Hunting. It's not your fault CM88. It's not your fault. It's not your fault.

Posted by: Barno1 | February 16, 2011 12:11 PM | Report abuse

Fail

Posted by: SirPelleas | February 16, 2011 12:57 PM | Report abuse

Pretty funny Barnie, I was trying to be civil and actually have an adult conversation with you, but it looks like you are still a complete homo that sniffs Garys sweaty undies, so you are a useless little punk that cannot stop hiding behind a computer and making personal comments.

Again, you showed what a retard you are,,,in one post you are stating the different years that we had to "make a run" "step it up" etc., but now you are only saying we "squeeked in one year" in the past 8,,,very interesting/selective memory you have over the past 8 years. I think most of us, would recognize that we have been a bubble team for the past 8 years doing one part or a majority of each of those years.

Again, pointing out what a true moron you are...if you are ranked a 10 seed in the NCAA tourn, it does not mean you are one of the 13-16 best teams in the country,,,YOU F ing MORON!!!! It means you are rated the 10th best in that bracket,,,you stupid kid!!! How many brackets are there??? ok now do the math!!

I may be grammatically incorrect in my blog typing, but you are a complete moron if you think MD was one of the top 10-15 teams in the country in the past 8 years or if you think thats what the NCAA seedings are in each bracket,,try multiplying by 4 you complete MORON!!!

You make me laugh that you try and act like you know anything regarding MD basketball or basketball in general.

You just tooled yourself little kid!

Btw, yes if you want to keep calling me names when I try to be civil, then I am again asking where you would like to meet when we go to the NIT, since you wanted to laugh at me when we make the NCAA's you so boldly predicted to me and other "garyhaters"???

Posted by: cm88 | February 16, 2011 1:47 PM | Report abuse

I don't understand why you 2 have to spew insults towards each other. cm88's comments, by there very nature, will rankle any FOG, while the words of Barno will annoy just about any gary-hater on the planet.

However, tossing insults and resorting to name calling really doesn't make your points any more or less sound.

The bottom line is that Barno is correct in stating that Maryland was considered one of the top 16 teams by the NCAA Tournament selection committee be earning a #4 seed in 2004, 2007, and 2010. So by using the tournament seeding, the Terps were considered between the 13th to 16th best team in the country entering the tournament in all 3 of those years. In all three of those years, the Terps ended the season ranked in the top 25 (19, 17, and 20, respectively in the AP Poll). The only appearance in the past 7 years that they have been rated lower was in 2009, when they were awarded a 10-seed, and proceded to upset #7-seeded California, and finished the season unranked.

However, cm88 is also correct in stating that the Terps may have "sneaked" into the tournament in 2004. Every analyst was gasping on Selection Sunday when the Terps earned that #4 seen after winning the ACC Tournament, and I seem to recall Clark Kellog even asking the selection committee chair explicitly about the Terps' seeding on the selection show. The committee definitely weighted the 3 wins in 3 days very heavily in their selection criteria, and it was likely that the Terps would not have been in the field had they lost the first game of the ACC Tournament.

However, Barno is accurate in stating that virtually every team is on the bubble in February. A quick scan of ESPN's bubble watch will show that just 3 weeks from selection Sunday, only 20 teams are "locks," and of those, 8 of them will likely earn automatic berths through conference tournament championships. That's 25 spots up for grabs, more than two thirds of the at-large field. Those top 20 teams are now jockeying for seeding, and it's possible that some will slide below the 4 or 5 line, while current bubble teams could slide up to the 4 or 5 line depending on performance down the stretch. So if cm88 wants to say the Terps always "sneak" into the field, well over 2/3 of the at-large field "sneaks" in over the last few weeks of the season, and another 2/3 of the automatic qualifiers "sneak" in as well by winning their conference tournaments.

I think we can all agree that the Terps will have to do some serious sneaking up to get into this year's field.

Posted by: Russtinator | February 16, 2011 4:33 PM | Report abuse

"and it was likely that the Terps would not have been in the field had they lost the first game of the ACC Tournament."

Agree with everything you just wrote Russ, except the above part. It was widely assumed that the terps had locked up a bid by beating NC State and UVA to close out the regular season. We were playing for seeding in the ACC tourney, which was why we played so freely. We did not need to beat Chris Paul and Wake that Friday night in OT to get in...no one felt after that game "ok, now we're in" because we were already in.

But again, agreed with everything else you just wrote.

Posted by: Barno1 | February 16, 2011 5:22 PM | Report abuse

Russ, sorry but anyone that has been watching MD basketball for the past 8 years, knows that we have been on the bubble for the past 8 years during the season, a good amount.

We can argue until we are blue in the face, but again, just look at this year, from day one we have been on the outside looking in. Same with most of last year, etc.

Yes we have pulled it out some years, but the point is, we should not be on the outside looking in. We should be one of those teams that is always wondering how high we will be seeded and fighting for tops level seeds, not hoping just to get in, which is what we have been doing for a while.

Again, we can go around in circles, you guys are proGary. I am not and a lot of us arent either, doesnt make us idiots, Duke Fans, or non MD fans.

4 NIT's in 8 years does not make me think Gary is a great coach and doing a great job, I think there are other coaches out there that would recruit better players, get more out of the players, and develop the players, which would offset what Gary may offer in just X and O "greatness", its more than just x's and o's....a lot more.

Just my moronic opinion....Go terps, hope we can win out somehow and I eat my words, more than anything I hope I do, because otherwise the NCAA tourn isnt worth watching.

Posted by: cm88 | February 16, 2011 6:31 PM | Report abuse

"Again, we can go around in circles, you guys are proGary. I am not and a lot of us arent either, doesnt make us idiots, Duke Fans, or non MD fans."

NO, there aren't "a lot" of you, there are very few MD fans that aren't proGary. Very few. Of the season ticket holders, I'd be shocked if there were more than 1% (this eliminates you). Of those that actually went to Maryland, I'd be shocked if it were more than 1% (this eliminates RestonHoops).

Posted by: Barno1 | February 17, 2011 11:39 AM | Report abuse

I guess thats why no one really listens to what you say, you are always wrong. Or maybe I just personally know that 1% that went to MD and are season ticket holders that also want Gary gone. Or maybe all the Garyhaters on Scout and on here, arent really fans, they just like to waste their time on here just for the fun of it. Sorry kid but their are a bunch of people that have been and are frustrated with Gary. But I am not stupid enough, unlike some people, to not believe their are people that also love Gary. I am open enough to see both sides, ya might wanna try that some day, it will help you in life :)

You really are a delusional kid, but its ok, you are a terp fan, so keep the fight alive :)

Posted by: cm88 | February 17, 2011 1:41 PM | Report abuse

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