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Posted at 10:14 PM ET, 02/15/2011

You have the floor: Talk about Maryland's loss to Virginia Tech

By Matt Bonesteel

Game story will be up soon, but Virginia Tech just finished off Maryland, 91-83.

The good: Terrell Stoglin, who had 25 points on 7-of-12 shooting, plus six assists and only three turnovers. Fairly close to unstoppable.

The bad: Maryland had all of two field goals over the last 5:22, one of them being Dino Gregory's three-pointer that seemingly bounced off every part of the rim and backboard before finally falling through with 1:09 left. It was Gregory's second three-point attempt of the season, and first made three-pointer.

Also not good: Maryland is now 0-4 against Boston College and Virginia Tech this season, two other ACC teams with at-large NCAA tournament hopes.

Next up: North Carolina State at Comcast Center, Sunday, 5:30 p.m. (Comcast SportsNet).

The floor is yours in the comments.


By Matt Bonesteel  | February 15, 2011; 10:14 PM ET
Categories:  Men's basketball  
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Comments

Didn't think we'd win this game and was actually impressed with our effort for the most part. We would not have been in the game without Stoglin..HOWEVER, he absolutely killed us on 2 of the most important possessions of the game. Up 1 with 5 minutes or so left, he rushed a fast break and lost control of the ball off the rim. That could have given us a critical 2 possession lead and momentum. Instead, Vtech went on a 9-0 run. Next, with a minute or so left off the inbounds steal, down 5 he rushed a shot up when we needed a good look there.

I know it's hard to complain about a freshman who had his career game, but he played so out of control on those key possessions it's hard to overlook.

As for Bowie, he continues to kill this team in every aspect of his game. He is just too nervous to play big minutes at this level. And Tucker is a real head scratcher. His head is not in the game anymore.

So it's come to this: run the table and win 1-2 in the ACC tourney, or...win the ACC tourney.

Tonight's effort actually gives me hope.

Posted by: Barno1 | February 15, 2011 10:30 PM | Report abuse

First off, thanks to WaPo for their complete non-coverage of the game tonight. Not even a place for TI comments during the game.

Second, to Barno, I'm optimistic too, but not for the rest of this year. Next year, yes. If JW stays - as he certainly should. And God do we need Faust. Someone needs to step into Gregory's role. I don't think that player is on the team this year. It's not Hawk.

Third, why Gary continues to play Bowie in crucial situations baffles me. He's an absolute non-threat offensively. It would be interesting for someone to count exactly how many layups this guy has missed this year. As a longtime Terps fan, I can't remember anyone worse around the basket. It would be hard to TRY to miss as many as he has all year.

Lastly, this season can be summed up in one word - "almost".

Posted by: LeeM9308 | February 15, 2011 10:42 PM | Report abuse

what exactly is there to be optimistic about? an aging fossil of a coach who won't recruit?

Posted by: slick3 | February 15, 2011 10:43 PM | Report abuse

Well, usually by the time I comment 30 people have explained why Gary is a great coach, the win provides hope for take your pick the run for the NCAA, next year, a close loss that shows effort.

Folks face it this is MD basketball at its best, close at half time, freshmen who play because the Seniors have not learned to control, shoot, pass the ball, A defense sag that leaves the outside open to shots and turnovers at critical points.

clearly another great effort by a coach that is the best yeller at the bench in all basketball.

But within six comments we will all realize why Gary is the greatest and his team just lets him down. Raise his salary and give him a 5 year extension. Do not hold him to any standards other than yelling at the bench and AVERAGE play.

Posted by: geoski | February 15, 2011 10:50 PM | Report abuse

Jordan Williams, 2 freshmen PGs who look like they are players, and next year when we finally get a shooter in Faust. That's a start.

Posted by: LeeM9308 | February 15, 2011 10:52 PM | Report abuse

see y'all down the ocean
thnx,

-Malcolm Delaney

Posted by: ZeroHero0 | February 15, 2011 10:53 PM | Report abuse

Lastly, this season can be summed up in one word - "almost".
Posted by: LeeM9308 | February 15, 2011 10:42 PM | Report abuse

"pathetic" is what comes to mind

Posted by: slick3 | February 15, 2011 10:54 PM | Report abuse

Hey Malcolm. Remind us all again. Exactly how many NCAA tournament games have you played in?

Posted by: LeeM9308 | February 15, 2011 10:57 PM | Report abuse

Don't know why people get their shorts in a twist about this team. They haven't been able to shoot the ball worth a damn all year so what's new? Lot of effort in the beginning with a hope it would continue but alas no. Almost zero offensive rebounds in the second half.The usual unguarded three point shooters...I mean Green may only hit 25% of his threes but he's near 100% against the Terps in two games. I think it was obvious early in the season that this team wasn't going anywhere so why should we pray they get into the Big Dance? What are they going to do there?

Posted by: bullwinkle1 | February 15, 2011 11:12 PM | Report abuse

One again - During a crucial stretch, Gary MAKES THE BONEHEAD MOVE TO TAKE OUT STOGLIN. He put in Bowie whom proceeded to miss a layup and Tucker makes a turnover and foul. I just see him making huge mistakes at crucial times with the lineups and he continues to do it again and again. Bowie should not play unless there is foul trouble. Cliff needs to start over Mosley who has the WORST hands I've seen and repeatedly passes on shots he should take and commits turnovers. He's just not a good player and is killing the team. Gary - this one is on you. You got outcoached again..

Posted by: leed191195 | February 15, 2011 11:41 PM | Report abuse

there were lots of gems posted back in January, but this was one of the best
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"Not a chance the Terps are losing, by the way. Not a chance.

Posted by: scrappledog | January 19, 2011 5:31 PM"

Posted by: joe_hill | February 15, 2011 11:50 PM | Report abuse

Two seniors who were supposed to be the leaders of this team, Bowie and Tucker have been major disappointments this year-sounds like a broken record-...Bowie has given up. leave him on the bench..Not sure what to think about Tucker.. Gregory, he tries, but I really think he's playing at a level a notch above his talent...Gary should start looking to next year now, and play some of the bench players to see if they will be able to contribute next year.. JW should be back, he's not ready for the NBA.. Keep Paullson in game, he knows the game and makes things happen...

Posted by: frostanna | February 16, 2011 5:39 AM | Report abuse

The beat goes on for UMD athletics- Gary will bail soon and we will see who our idiot of an AD brings in. That's OK, we have Field Hockey and Soccer to hang our hats on- the PC admin in College must be loving it. Received the offer for Football season tickets yesterday- I am still laughing. Where is Randy Shannon? Or did KA find a high school coach who dreams of coaching of MD?

Posted by: rveatch | February 16, 2011 7:41 AM | Report abuse

The Terps played well for all but the last 5 minutes of the game. Familiar story but I appreciated the effort. I liked the play of Stoglin/Howard and think Gary must use these two together for us to have a shot. I will take the good with the bad. Tucker and Bowie can contribute off the bench just like the last 3 years. They are better in a supporting role.

I like seeing Hawk play but I think he should relieve Mosely, not Williams or Dino. Jordan and Dino played their usual steady play. I think we needed Padget in the game with Williams out with foul trouble. We were outrebounded again and Hawk is too small, we give up rebounding when he has to play forward.

We knew it would be hard to win in Blacksburg and we also know Tech is a better team than the Terps. It is easier to take this loss than at BC. We needed two overtimes to beat Tech last year with our first place team. Tech has the same players for the most part as last year.

Our only chance at winning out this season is playing the two freshmen. We need more production out of Mosely. Pull him for Hawk if his play is not up to expectations.
As usual our front line is just fine.

Posted by: torope | February 16, 2011 9:00 AM | Report abuse

The seniors have been such a disappointment (except for Gregory) and so the Terps depend on their underclassmen. That is tough against veteran teams, especially when the chips are down at the end of a tight game. There is no need to keep writing about how they can make the tournament. It isn't going to happen this year. Get over it.

Posted by: aschau66 | February 16, 2011 9:15 AM | Report abuse

BOWIE, BOWIE, BOWIE!!!!

He is so unreliable in every sense of the game. Missed layup again, air ball on a 3 point try again, let's his palyer countless times free for layup or sure shot, and turnovers at the worst time. What is it that Gary sees in him. Practices well??? Play the freshmen and be done with it. Bowie has been awful awful against good competition. He el stinkos. He is not going to improve with 5 games left. Get him out of here.

Posted by: jack51 | February 16, 2011 9:27 AM | Report abuse

So it's pretty clear it's now going to take a monumental effort to make the NCAA tournament (win out and make the ACC Tourney semis--beating Duke/UNC in the process, or win the whole thing).

I'd have to agree with Barno about Stoglin. He does play right on the edge a lot, and too frequently gets out of control. However, that's the kind of performance I want to see from a freshman, even with the mistakes. He knew he had the touch, and tried to put the team on his back and will them to victory. Fans would make the same complaints about Vasquez (heck I did even through the first half of his senior year), and Greivis turned out ok, and brought Maryland it's most successful season since 2004. The upside is that Stoglin is probably more skilled than Vasquez. He's quicker, has a better shot, and seems to read the court a little better on the break, with the only deficiency being his height. Even if the Terps lose the rest of their games this year, if Stoglin is playing like that every night, I'll have a smile on my face knowing the ACC will be on notice for a Maryland team that will make some serious noise next season.

Howard had another solid, if not quite as spectacular, game. He brought calm to a team that got a little wound up in Stoglin's flash. I'm really starting to enjoy watching the 2 freshmen on the court at the same time. I didn't think it would work at the beginning of the season, but the two actually play well off of each other and their skills compliment each other better that anticipated.

Hawk played some good minutes, but I'd like to see him find the confidence that Howard and Stoglin have gained.

Mosely continues to be an enigma, and if they're even running plays for him anymore, he must be getting so burried in the lane that he's miles behind in the progression of the set.

JW had a solid game, but his defensive rebounding was astonishingly bad, particularly down the stretch. Davilla and Allen were pushing him around too much, and he turned into a completely different rebounder once he got that 4th foul.

Dino played another strong game, but he's got to help JW on the boards. Two of VaTech's offensive rebounds down the stretch were touched by his blockout assignment. He continues to be an opportunistic scorer and solid defender, but he was a big reason the Hokies outrebounded them.

I'm done defending Tucker and Bowie. I really thought Bowie would have a performance like he did a couple years ago in Cassell (20 pts I think), but he continued his poor shooting, layup-missing antics that have just terrorized this team. Tucker might as well have been on the bus after halftime, because he brought NOTHING to the floor in the second half.

Knoche had an interesting take regarding karma and this team. Last year, the Terps got all the bounces on the way to the ACC Title. This year, everything seems to be against them. It just proves how razor thin the margin is between winning and losing for the Terps.

Posted by: Russtinator | February 16, 2011 10:15 AM | Report abuse

One again - During a crucial stretch, Gary MAKES THE BONEHEAD MOVE TO TAKE OUT STOGLIN. He put in Bowie whom proceeded to miss a layup and Tucker makes a turnover and foul. I just see him making huge mistakes at crucial times with the lineups and he continues to do it again and again. Bowie should not play unless there is foul trouble. Cliff needs to start over Mosley who has the WORST hands I've seen and repeatedly passes on shots he should take and commits turnovers. He's just not a good player and is killing the team. Gary - this one is on you. You got outcoached again..

Posted by: leed191195 | February 15, 2011 11:41 PM | Report abuse

Leed,,What??? Gary got outcoached??? How dare you say that, he is the greatest coach ever!!!! I mean look at the great job he has done developing our Seniors, which was from a good recruiting class, into the steady performers we need,,,oh wait.

Ummm ok, well look at the great job he has done with developing Sean Mosleeeeee....oh damn it.

Well he is great at coaching up the overachievers, look at the upsets we've had...0-26, nevermind

Ok, Gary is a great recruiter atleast....right????

Gary is great at taking us deep into the NCAA...no, wrong again.

Ok maybe we will win the NIT????


Go Gary!!! We love you, you should be our coach forever!!!!

Anyone else starting to see how stupid that sounds yet??? Barno???

NIT, NIT, NIT, Gary, Gary, Gary,,,,wow they do sound good together!

Posted by: cm88 | February 16, 2011 10:20 AM | Report abuse

why should we pray they get into the Big Dance? What are they going to do there?

Posted by: bullwinkle1 | February 15, 2011 11:12 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, unless you're going to win the national championship, what's the point of even rooting for you team to win? Same in football, if you're not the odds on favorite to win the super bowl, I just don't understand why you would even care about the sport. As for baseball, unless you're a Yankees fan and have a shot at winning 5 straight world series, I see no point in having a favorite team.

It's comments like bullwinkle's above that make me question why some of these people even root for sports teams. They take no pleasure it unless their team is championship bound, so why even follow sports?

Posted by: Barno1 | February 16, 2011 11:28 AM | Report abuse

Let me help clarify for you Barno, we dont just hope to get into the NCAA's, we hope to be a team that can "really" compete once we get in. So yes, we all hope/cheer to get in, but wouldnt it be nice to have a team that didnt squeek in or that once we got in, had atleast a "realistic" chance to win several games?

Sad thing is that we are once again, hoping that all the stars will align and we can sneak in...are you seeing yet why gary loves the expanded field to 68, its his only hope, sad but true.

Posted by: cm88 | February 16, 2011 11:53 AM | Report abuse

This season is what it is because Tucker, Bowie and Mosley have crapped the bed all year. They needed step up their play and their leadership with the departure of Vasquez and Hayes and they have flat out not done it.

So many close games that needed the leadership of an upperclassman guard to settle things down on a key possession or hit a big shot and those 3 continuely played like they were thinking about whether they had left the oven on or something.

Posted by: Section505203 | February 16, 2011 11:54 AM | Report abuse

No killer instinct! Can't finish games! Bowie just stinks and shouldn't even be on the team! Mosly can only play well against the bums! Syracuse didn't want him so why is he here? Tucker is a turnover machine!

I have always supported Gary but it's time for him to retire! Put a statue of him in front of Comcast for his first 15 good years and put him out to pasture!

Lefty always got BLUE CHIP talent, not the leftovers! He proved Maryland can compete in getting top talent! The only guy on our team that could play for Duke is Williams!

We need a coach who can recruit, not just an X'S and O's guy! The only guy's on this team worth a s#@* are Williams, Stoglin, Peshon, Dino and maybe Hawk? The rest of them couldn't make Georgetown's practice squad!

While were at it; get rid of Booth! He couldn't recruit a fat man to a barbecue The only reason he is here is to look good to Baltimore!

Posted by: fatlabriley2 | February 16, 2011 12:42 PM | Report abuse

for all you Gary-haters, just who are we going to replace him with?? ask GT or WF or NCST how hard it is to get a quality replacement these days. Gary has done more for the bball program then anyone ever. give the guy break.

Posted by: cvansant | February 16, 2011 1:05 PM | Report abuse

Simply put...the Terps have MMLT (Mid Major Level Talent)!!! That's why I can't even get mad anymore when they lose to quality teams because they would have to play a flawless game in order to beat a really good team.

Bowie, Mosley and Tucker are role players so it was overly optimistic for us to assume that the light switch would automatically turn on when the pressure was shining on them. These guys would have a hard time getting playing time at Mason so let's scale down our expectations just a bit until we get some pro-level talent at the university.

As long as MD finishes around 18-12 every season, which is pretty much what they're on schedule to do this season, Coach Williams' job is safe.

Posted by: S-Doug | February 16, 2011 1:10 PM | Report abuse

Let me help clarify for you Barno, we dont just hope to get into the NCAA's, we hope to be a team that can "really" compete once we get in.

Posted by: cm88 | February 16, 2011 11:53 AM | Report abuse

Yes because clearly it's so easy to predict which teams will advance in the tournament once the field is set.

You get the feeling if CM88 was a George Mason fan back in 06, he'd have been the guy lecturing other fans on how getting in to the tournament is meaningless when you have "no chance to do anything once we're in."

Again, you're not a smart guy, but it's not your fault.

Posted by: Barno1 | February 16, 2011 1:18 PM | Report abuse

This team for me is now about the future. J-Will probably wont go pro, 6-10 centers with no range, limited hops and quickness, without the ability to face up do not translate to today's NBA. I am not down on the guy, I just cannot see how he is a lottery pick.

So we have a poor senior class (backcourt) in the 2010-11 season. Probably a function of so little PT or responsibity in years prior. College basketball now is about guard play first. Period. Life goes on, I am excited about the young nucleus in the backcourt, a returning J-Will, new recruits, etc.

Oh, and Russ- you can now add Cliff Tucker and Adrian Bowie to my list of players which did not improve under Gary. Also, please stick Mike Mardesich in there retroactive. Hope Sean Moseley isn't in there a year from now.

Posted by: terpape | February 16, 2011 1:34 PM | Report abuse

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Bowie, Mosley and Tucker are role players so it was overly optimistic for us to assume that the light switch would automatically turn on when the pressure was shining on them. These guys would have a hard time getting playing time at Mason

Posted by: S-Doug | February 16, 2011 1:10 PM
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Well of course they'd have a hard time getting playing time at Mason. Players are always going to struggle for minutes if moved to a superior program.

Of course if they were at Mason, at least they'd be learning and improving from year-to-year due to good coaching.

Posted by: HughAkston | February 16, 2011 5:33 PM | Report abuse

Perspective is everything. Russtinator had it dead right when he wrote, "This year, everything seems to be against them. It just proves how razor thin the margin is between winning and losing for the Terps." Yes, but it's the same for all but three ACC teams. Chancy ref calls, exams, how well a player is feeling, all these have intangible effects on the outcome of a game. Firing a coach whose team is in the middle of the pack is absurd. Fans in Carolina and Mich State are calling for their coaches heads even now. Calling for Coach Williams dismissal is childish and churlish and flies in the face of his record and UMD's limitations.

Posted by: AncientTerp | February 16, 2011 5:40 PM | Report abuse

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