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Posted at 10:29 AM ET, 03/ 4/2011

Gary Williams: Maryland's seniors faced 'tough situation' this season

By Liz Clarke

The stakes won’t be as high at Comcast Center on Saturday afternoon as they were last March, when Maryland closed against Duke with a share of the ACC regular season title on the line.

But it will be Senior Day nonetheless -- an opportunity for Terrapins fans, family and friends to acknowledge the contributions of Dino Gregory, Adrian Bowie and Cliff Tucker.

None will depart with ACC player of the year honors or school records, as guard Greivis Vasquez did last year. But they’ll leave something behind that’s increasingly rare in college basketball: A four-year commitment to their team, through good times and bad.

“They were in a tough situation, with Greivis, Landon [Milbourne], and Eric [Hayes] leaving,” Coach Gary Williams conceded, referring to last season’s trio of departing seniors. “It’s always hard when you have [to follow] great seniors.”

Gregory, a 6-foot-7 forward from Baltimore, started all 30 games to date this season for the Terrapins and served as the squad’s co-captain, along with junior Sean Mosley. His improved jump shot and defense down the stretch helped give sophomore center Jordan Williams more room to work inside, complicating the task of opposing defenses.

Bowie, a 6-2 guard from Greenbelt, started all but four games this season, shifting from point guard to shooting guard to accommodate emerging freshmen Terrell Stoglin and Pe’Shon Howard without complaint. He provided the spark that lifted Maryland over Virginia on Jan. 27, scoring 17 of his team-high 22 points in the second half, while grabbing a career-high four steals.

Arguably the Terrapins’ best athlete and purest shooter, Tucker, a 6-6 swingman from El Paso, has been in and out of the starting lineup. He hit the buzzer-beater that won a critical game against Georgia Tech last season. No one on the roster made more three-pointers than Tucker (38) this season.

That said, it was hardly the season the seniors had hoped for -- more forgettable than memorable, barring a championship performance in next week’s ACC tournament.

Heading into Saturday’s regular-season finale, the Terrapins (18-12, 7-8) have lost two of their last three games (at Miami and at North Carolina) and slipped to seventh in the ACC standings. And even a victory over Virginia (15-14, 6-9), tied with Miami for eighth in the league, would do no better than level Maryland’s conference record at .500 -- a precipitous plunge from last year’s 13-3 mark.

“They’ve had great moments in their careers they’ll remember,” Coach Williams said of the three seniors. “[But] that’s how it goes sometimes in your career: maybe you would have liked to have done better your senior year.”

By Liz Clarke  | March 4, 2011; 10:29 AM ET
Categories:  Gary Williams, Men's basketball  
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gary the excuse maker...

Posted by: slick3 | March 4, 2011 11:59 AM | Report abuse

“They’ve had great moments in their careers they’ll remember,” Coach Williams said of the three seniors. “[But] that’s how it goes sometimes in your career: maybe you would have liked to have done better your senior year.”

I mean Geezus Gary. Do you put it all on them? Are you not going to take not one ounce of blame?

Maybe Gary should say, "these well as two out of the three from last year were never good enough to play in the ACC. However, for reasons/excuses that I've laid out several times in the past, I refused to bring in higher caliber players. As a result, I set these boys up for embarrassment. The seniors next year will be called out and embarrassed too especially if Jordan decides to leave for the NBA. I'm sorry, I recognize that ramifications of my arrogance and laziness, and I'll try to do better in the future or I'll simply leave."

Posted by: UnFamiliarThought | March 4, 2011 12:08 PM | Report abuse

The question that should have been answered is after 4 years should they have been bench players and not starters?

Posted by: MARKHAGNER | March 4, 2011 12:25 PM | Report abuse

"But they’ll leave something behind that’s increasingly rare in college basketball: A four-year commitment to their team, through good times and bad."

That is a load of crap... the vast majority of Div1 basketball players stay all 4 years, especially ones of this trio's calibre.

As for the trio, not sorry to see any of them leave. They have been unreliable and streaky throughout there careers and I knew this season would not be very good with these three expected to be starters and team leaders. There recruiting class may well be one of the poorest of Gary;s tenure.

Posted by: soriphius | March 4, 2011 12:26 PM | Report abuse

Bowie and Tucker both looked better as juniors? Neither seemed to provide any leadership and neither could finish around the rim or even put together a decent shooting night, except for Bowie scoring 22 [if I remember] one game?

Really pitiful...really pathetic? Dino was the only senior who improved through his career and he will be missed next year.

I hope these guys get their degrees and have a good, long life to regret a great missed opportunity. It was there for the taking in a down year for the ACC.

It would be nice for them to prove me wrong and win the ACC tournament or even at this stage to make a good showing in the NIT? But... that would take some heart and guts which these guys don't seem to have?

Mosely should either get over whatever is causing his mental funk or take up bowling? He is not the same player he was as a freshman?

The sad thing is this team played hard every game. Sometimes it looked like they were trying too hard and playing out of control? That's where we could have used a little senior leadership to take control and settle things down.

This BS about having to follow Grevis and Hayes is nothing but a stupid excuse! Maryland has always had good players leave and this is the first time a remember a coach using it as an alibi?

Posted by: fatlabriley2 | March 4, 2011 12:29 PM | Report abuse

Uh oh Garylovers,,,,more and more people/fans/ticket holders, upset with Gary. I guess more and more people think 8 years is long enough.

Posted by: cm88 | March 4, 2011 12:30 PM | Report abuse

Uh oh....that may make 2% of all MD fans who want Gary gone now. That movement is picking up steam. Get that social media machine churning cm88. YOU can make a difference. I believe in you.

Posted by: fushezzi | March 4, 2011 12:47 PM | Report abuse

2007 recruiting class, all 3 star players. Dennis Green had this to say in defending their careers: "They are who we THOUGHT they were"!...

Posted by: bernard_thompson | March 4, 2011 12:49 PM | Report abuse

Hopefully K.A. will be satisfied with ousting only one of our revenue head coaches this (academic) year for no good reason.

Although Sidney Lowe will probably be available, maybe we should jump on this opportunity to go from good to great!

Posted by: NaptownTerrapin | March 4, 2011 1:05 PM | Report abuse

You think it's tough now, wait until a: Gary gets sick of trying to succeed at a school that does not put a priority on winning except in the PC sports like soccer and field hockey and retires, or b: Kevin the clown decides to reshape the BBall team as well and gets rid of Gary and brings in Karl Hobbs or Sidney Lowe.
KA has a Chief of Staff to blame things on now so watch out!

What a pathetic situation-

Posted by: rveatch | March 4, 2011 1:12 PM | Report abuse

CM88/ Mr Tech Exec...

You are really silly because we all know that you dont like Gary's style so your arguments about firing him for not making x tourneys in y years rings a tad hollow...its like asking Glenn Beck for an objective review of Obama

EVERY NCAA coach has holes in his record....I asked a couple of weeks ago for a coach you would replace GW whose record has no blemishes.....guess what....the only name thrown out was Phil Jackson....Coach K could be another, but after that there is no-one

GW is one of only 10 active coaches with a title, is in the top 5 actives in games won and is a lock for future HOF...and you (who may or may not have played basketball as some podunk Div 2 school and who has never coached at the college level want to sit here and stomp your little feet because you dont feel we go to the tourney enough, even though we are coming off 2 consec tourney apps (yeah, I know we probably wont go this year)?? Get real...and I still dont know why you dont follow your own college especially if you were an athlete there? No you dont have to have attended UMD to be a fan but I certainly dont waste my time trolling the BC sports boards and ragging on their coach...jeez man

and btw..even coach K missed the NCAA and NIT in 95, and got blown out in the first round in 07 and lost in the 2nd round in 08

maybe you should get on the syracuse boards and try to get Jim Boeheim fired...hes got a couple of tourney misses and early exits on his resume too.....then we can go after Roy Williams next...NIT last year...oops...fired

Posted by: TerpfanMA | March 4, 2011 1:12 PM | Report abuse

of course they stayed for 4 years- as did the trio the year before...why? because there was no demand for their services in the NBA as juniors. We can applaud the honoring of having your best players be four year players, however I'd rather be on the inside looking (elite 8 or better) rather than the outside looking in (best years being a sweet 16). While it may not be time for gary to go, it is certainly time for him to re-evaluate his methodology. More of the same is not working.

Posted by: HonestSkinsFan | March 4, 2011 1:14 PM | Report abuse

I'm not for Hobbs or Lowe. I think Todd Bozeman would be the perfect hire for the UMD job. A local guy that is a former local AAU coach. He knows and is respected by all the local AAU coaches. He as paid for his wrongdoing at Cal and has now completely turned Morgan State around.

Recruiting would boom under Bozeman and he is a helluva coach. To me it's a no brainer. Gary is not the only fantastic coach in the world guys. He can be replaced.

Posted by: UnFamiliarThought | March 4, 2011 1:18 PM | Report abuse

Why does Gary and the press talk about how young MD is every year; when it seems like every year MD has as least 3 seniors in his first six players. Does this make it look like it is a great coaching job. MD generally has the most experienced team in the ACC????

Posted by: Truth24 | March 4, 2011 1:20 PM | Report abuse

Bozeman??? Are you his brother trying to get that clown a job?
Bozeman was forced to resign in the fall of 1996. He admitted paying $30,000 over two years to the parents of Golden Bears recruit Jelani Gardner so they could drive from their home in Mendocino to see him play. When Gardner's playing time dwindled, his parents turned Bozeman into the NCAA (Gardner eventually transferred to Pepperdine).[1] He had also been the subject of a sexual harassment complaint; just before the announcement he had been ordered to stay away from a former Cal student who had accused him of making lewd phone calls and threatening her.[2]
As a result of a subsequent investigation, Cal had to forfeit the entire 1994–95 season and all but two games of the 1995–96 season. The school also vacated its appearance in the 1996 NCAA Tournament. The NCAA also imposed an eight-year "show-cause" order on Bozeman. The show-cause order meant that until 2005, no NCAA member school could hire Bozeman without permission. The NCAA came down particularly hard on Bozeman because he'd lied to school and NCAA officials about his role in making the payments, and only admitted it a week before the NCAA hearing.[3]
Since most schools will not even consider hiring a coach with an outstanding "show-cause" on his record, Bozeman was effectively blackballed from the college ranks for eight years. Additionally, Bozeman was hampered by rumors that he had deliberately undermined Campanelli,[4] even though the National Association of Basketball Coaches cleared Bozeman of any wrongdoing in the events that led to Campanelli's ouster.[5]

Posted by: TerpfanMA | March 4, 2011 1:24 PM | Report abuse

You are citing something from almost 15 years ago! Why didn't you cite that he was the youngest coach to ever make make it to the Sweet 16? Why didn't you say that Jason Kidd still says that Bozeman is the best coach he's ever had?

The man is a winner. He did something done and paid the price. He's winning at Morgan State. HE BEAT MARYLAND AND GARY AT MORGAN STATE!!!!!

He is the perfect man for the job in every way. I'm not his brother nor do I know him personally. But I like the way he coaches and he's won at every stop. He knows the local high schools and AAU programs.

There literally is no one better for the job. I open to other suggestions, but this guys screams UMD coach.

Posted by: UnFamiliarThought | March 4, 2011 1:32 PM | Report abuse

Get real dude...MSU is 15-13 this year that really the hallmark of a successful program in your eyes?

this dude is Bob Wade part deux....and if he is such a great recruiter in the MD area, why dont the top recruits go to MSU?

Posted by: TerpfanMA | March 4, 2011 1:35 PM | Report abuse

All of you Gary bashers should do the rest of us a favor and find someone else to beat up. This man saved Maryland Basketball when it was in its darkest hour. He brought us a national championship. Being a Maryland grad, I never thought I would live to see a National Championship.For that, I will always support Gary.
Imagine he could get the pick of the litter like coach K, or cheat like many of the supposed top coaches, we would have the rafters full at Comcast.

By the way, why don't they play one last game at Cole.

Posted by: mdterps2 | March 4, 2011 1:37 PM | Report abuse

jason kidd???? wtf??? when did he say that? just after he graduated? so he is comparing bozeman to his HS and JR HS coaches...

keep dreaming...this clown will NEVER come to UMD....we dont need some lying, sex pervert anywhere near the campus...he is lucky we even let him in the building when MSU plays here.....

He cant even get Morgan State to 20 wins with a pathetic schedule

Posted by: TerpfanMA | March 4, 2011 1:40 PM | Report abuse

You're not being reasonalbe TerpfanMA. Name a coach that would be better or makes more sense (outside of Gary). He is locally born and raised. He coached in the DC Assault AAU program. He now coaches in the heart of Baltimore City. Imagine the contacts this guy has.

And are you seriously asking why big time prospects don't want to go to Morgan St? I'll ignore that.

Posted by: UnFamiliarThought | March 4, 2011 1:45 PM | Report abuse

Bozeman? Sure, that's the answer. Bob Wade Act II. No thanks.

How about a guy who has taken 3 different Div. 1 programs to the NCAA Tournament, is a future HOF'er with over 600 lifetime wins, that has 2 final fours and a NCAA championship and just last year he won a conference championship and COY.

What's that guy's name again?....Oh yea, that's right, Gary Williams.

Man, you Gary haters really look foolish with all this crap you spew out day after day after day.

Posted by: Section505203 | March 4, 2011 1:45 PM | Report abuse

Here are bozemans last 3 games:

Lost to Norfolk State
Lost to NC A&T
Lost to Coppin State

WOW...what a powerhouse he has created!!!!! No thanks to this lying, cheating scumbag...even if he is friendly with a couple of AAU coaches.....he probably pays them too

Posted by: TerpfanMA | March 4, 2011 1:45 PM | Report abuse are not being reasonable...u want to replace the 5th winningest active coach, and one of only 10 actives who have a NCAA title with a guy who landed his program on probation and forefeited games, lied about it, and sexually harrassed a co-ed??? just because he is friends with a couple of AAU coaches??? what are you smoking?

Posted by: TerpfanMA | March 4, 2011 1:49 PM | Report abuse

C'mon and just facet he facts.... MD Athletic are no longer a "power" in the ACC. Gary is a good coach but he lacks in the one thing... recruiting. MD will always be run of the mill only because they shifted focus from a public/state university full of life in athletics to a Stanford of the east.... Remember at the end of the 90's into the 2000's when they had Stevie Franchise, Joe Smith etc... those days are loong gone because gary does not want the "One and done" athlete.

Posted by: rvanags | March 4, 2011 1:50 PM | Report abuse

Sidney Lowe couldn't coach himself out of a paper bag.

Posted by: BrokenClipboard | March 4, 2011 1:57 PM | Report abuse are not being reasonable...u want to replace the 5th winningest active coach, and one of only 10 actives who have a NCAA title with a guy who landed his program on probation and forefeited games, lied about it, and sexually harrassed a co-ed??? just because he is friends with a couple of AAU coaches??? what are you smoking?


The problem with you argument against Bozeman is the same as your argument for's all based in the past.

Recuiting makes up at least 50% of today college BBall game. And Gary is awful at it. Bozeman has proven his worth at Cal and now at Morgan State. In his down period he coached LOCAL Basketball alongs with stints as an NBA assistant.

The program needs to move forward. Gary is a great coach and will leave a great legacy but he is no longer a highly effective coach in the ACC. With Bozeman and his local ties, we stand to recruit the local players that we always should have been getting. Plus the man coaching is undeniable. He has taken Morgan State to THREE STRAIGHT NCAA tournaments. C'mon man. The guy is deserving. Maybe you wouldn't want to hire him....but his resume makes him deserving of the job.

Outside of Gary (whom I'm assuming you'd like to see coach until he is 95, regardless of the teams record) would you have any other suggestions?

Posted by: UnFamiliarThought | March 4, 2011 2:02 PM | Report abuse

I will also guarantee you that guys that actually coach the game and do so year after year against GW, like Coach K and Roy Williams, would laugh at the HOG's suggestions that Maryland should fire GW because he doesn't have it anymore.

Posted by: Section505203 | March 4, 2011 2:02 PM | Report abuse

rvanags, you may be correct about Gary not wanting one and doners... and I applaud him for that, I personally hate the current rules that allow them. But he has ALWAYS been like that.

Joe Smith was an unknown recruit who shocked the the NCAA community as a freshman because nobody knew who he was before he lit up Georgetown early in the season. The entire starting lineup of the national title team were little regarded recruits who developed into the stars they became. Gary has always recruited on potential and commitment to the program over instant talent that will be gone in a year or two.

That was his bread and butter, but with recruiting websites and media attention of recruiting these days its next to impossible to find the little known future stars he used too, without every other program in the country knowing about them too. Recruiting head to head with other major schools is not his strong point.

Posted by: soriphius | March 4, 2011 2:04 PM | Report abuse

By the way, Happy 66th Birthday to Gary Williams. Discovered that it was his birthday today when I was looking up how many career wins he had.

Posted by: Section505203 | March 4, 2011 2:12 PM | Report abuse

So much asinine banter on this forum it's hard to even find the worst. One thing I'd like to respond to first -- and this crops up in every discussion about Maryland -- is this mind-boggling speculation of him leaving early. Which makes me ask: Which Jordan Williams have you been watching ... no, better yet, which NBA have you been watching that makes you believe Jordan Williams can play in it? Good roleplayer for Maryland, yes, elite professional basketball material? Not by a mile. Maybe someday, but ...

And the Gary stuff. Jeez. I don't have the breath to even respond to half of it. Sidney Lowe? Bozeman? Are you kidding? Seriously, did someone actually mention these names?

Even with disappointing seasons more frequent than they used to be, Gary should and will have this job until he decides it's time to go. The man isn't Joe Paterno; he'll be gone one day.

I get the feeling those who scream about Elite 8 and beyond as the only acceptable destination are either quite young or don't have more important things in life to worry about.

Oh yeah, what was that about "PC sports?" National titles are amazing accomplishments in any sport -- and just think, some of those you just pooped upon are played by students who do so without any potential of professional career in said game after college. Well, men's soccer, maybe (and by the way those two recent soccer title runs were fantastic; sorry you missed 'em).

Posted by: scrappledog | March 4, 2011 2:13 PM | Report abuse

"Remember at the end of the 90's into the 2000's when they had Stevie Franchise, Joe Smith etc... those days are loong gone because gary does not want the "One and done" athlete."

Allow me to finish rvanag's comment for him:

Yes, Joe Smith was a very highly touted recruit, back when Gary was going after the McDonalds All Americans like Smith and now he doesn't.

Wait, what's that you say? Joe Smith wasn't an All American in high school? Wait, he wasn't highly touted at all? He was just an afterthought recruit that Gary found and turned into the best player in the country? Wait, that screws up my whole argument.

Posted by: Barno1 | March 4, 2011 2:18 PM | Report abuse

And another thing, Steve Francis was a great player, but I don't remember him as one who made a great contribution to Maryland in his one mercenary season. Maryland used him in an attempt to break through the Sweet 16 barrier; he used the Terps to boost his profile for the NBA draft.

Unless you watched a different St. John's debacle in the NCAA tournament, I don't think the whole relationship ended too memorably.

The only reasons Francis' jersey was retired were as a recruiting tool and because he donated a boatload of money to Maryland.

Posted by: scrappledog | March 4, 2011 2:23 PM | Report abuse

Not sure if anyone on here noticed but the Maryland womens team lost today in the first round of the ACC tourney to a weak gtech squad. Look, I don't mean to diminish what Brenda Frese did for the program 5+ years ago, but it's clear our womens program is not on the right path. NIT last year, losing in the opening round of the ACC tourney to Gtech this year. No final fours since the national championship way back when. And anyone who has seen the behind the scenes coverage of Brenda knows that she yells at her players a lot. I hear she even drinks alcohol sometimes too. Look, I like Brenda, but I just think it's time for Kevin Anderson to let her go and find a replacement who can get us back to winning national championships every year.

Posted by: Barno1 | March 4, 2011 2:25 PM | Report abuse

Unkown...yeah thats right...both in the past except for one major difference...Gary is working to repeat his past and Bozemann is running from his!

How much of bozemans recruiting was tied to the cash he paid??? Any cop will tell you someone usually commits a crime at least 8 times before he gets caught!

Seriously, not sure what your ties are to bozeman, (brother, friend, nieghbor, dated his sister etc) but UMD does NOT want someone like him anywhere near our campus

Posted by: TerpfanMA | March 4, 2011 2:27 PM | Report abuse

@Barno: nice.

On a serious note, I'd like to see Kevin Anderson find a replacement for Kevin Anderson.

Posted by: scrappledog | March 4, 2011 2:28 PM | Report abuse

and in response to your question about "Who" instead of Gary?...that is my point...I dont want ANYONE coaching this team other than Gary Williams at this point

We may miss the tourney this year which is too bad, but we were in last 2 years and like I said before, tourney misses happen to EVERY coach...

Gary is a PROVEN winner...#5 in active coaches, and one of 10 with a title so he has proven he wins, and wins at the MAJOR COLLEGE LEVEL...without cash payments, lying, sexual harrassment charges etc....

Bozeman would have a better chance trying to take Kryzewskis job...GOOD LUCK

Posted by: TerpfanMA | March 4, 2011 2:33 PM | Report abuse

Really? not in favor of Hobbs or Lowe? Who would seriously be in facor of them? Our brilliant AD is the only one who would.

Scrappledog- apologies for minimizing soccer- not my intent. There needs to be a greater emphasis on the revenue sports for the entire department to survive.

Posted by: rveatch | March 4, 2011 2:37 PM | Report abuse

I don't know why we shouldn't go for Sidney Lowe... he's been responsible for almost as many Terps ACC wins as Gary has in the past 4 years...

Tongue in cheek of course, Lowe is horrible - We should all be praying he doesn't get fired this offseason.

Posted by: NaptownTerrapin | March 4, 2011 2:42 PM | Report abuse

CM88/ Mr Tech Exec...

You are really silly because we all know that you dont like Gary's style so your arguments about firing him for not making x tourneys in y years rings a tad hollow...its like asking Glenn Beck for an objective review of Obama

EVERY NCAA coach has holes in his record....I asked a couple of weeks ago for a coach you would replace GW whose record has no blemishes.....guess what....the only name thrown out was Phil Jackson....Coach K could be another, but after that there is no-one

GW is one of only 10 active coaches with a title, is in the top 5 actives in games won and is a lock for future HOF...and you (who may or may not have played basketball as some podunk Div 2 school and who has never coached at the college level want to sit here and stomp your little feet because you dont feel we go to the tourney enough, even though we are coming off 2 consec tourney apps (yeah, I know we probably wont go this year)?? Get real...and I still dont know why you dont follow your own college especially if you were an athlete there? No you dont have to have attended UMD to be a fan but I certainly dont waste my time trolling the BC sports boards and ragging on their coach...jeez man

Posted by: TerpfanMA | March 4, 2011 12:52 PM | Report abuse

Terpfan/Mr unemployeed,

You are really silly, just in general.

Yes I know every coach has holes, I am fine with a coach having holes, but this is 8 years running, its called a trend, maybe they didnt teach you that at MD business school, but go read a book about negative trends and it will look like Garys past 8 years. Again, I havent said anything for years, but it just keeps going and we all keep hoping,,,I am done hoping sorry you are still sitting on your hands hoping.

Second silly point, I never said I played basketball, sorry you couldnt pay attention to that. I played other sports Division 1 and did coach for a bit, so sorry you are way off. And I knew how to get the most out of players, and it wasnt yelling every second or telling them to shut the F up, or playing favorites and putting kids in yearly doghouses.

Worst silly point, so I grow up loving a team, follow them for 30+ years, but since I go to college some where else for athletics, I cant be a MD fan anymore or I am less of one because you happen to get in there??? yeah thats a smart point, wow MD grads are really bright and open.

Last Silly point, yeah I know Gary has done well, and we made it to several NCAA's over the past couple of years, but thats the issue, you Garylovers live in the distant past i.e. 10 years ago, and you think being a bubble team and squeeking into the NCAA's and losing early is ok/success. Sorry but thats a really low bar of success, maybe you are use to it in your personal and professional life, but real MD fans expect more.

Maybe you will notice, but on all the different blogs here and other MD locations, more and more people are sick of the old man/Gary's act, lazy

Posted by: cm88 | March 4, 2011 2:54 PM | Report abuse

UF -

What about stealing Fisher from SD State? He has two FFs AND a NC to show for his years at Michigan? In all seriousness, the recruiting violations at Michigan - as they relate directly to Fisher - are far, far less damning than what Bozeman pulled. And he won a lot more and has proven to be a phenomenal recruiter.

And he has not lost to any MEAC teams recently.

I think TFMA nailed it - and he is no KAD although he is a FOG. He was anti-RF prior to the sacking and complained about how the sacking was handled and the anticlimatic hire of RE. GW has earned his tenure and imho is highly likely to return to the elite level of college BB in the next few seasons. His age may be an issue so KA BETTER start putting contingency plans together regardless.

And he just might win three games next weekend.

Does anyone believe that if they beat UVA and get to the ACC finals but lose they are still out of the dance?

Posted by: Duke-Rulz-1995 | March 4, 2011 3:00 PM | Report abuse

This situation is similar to one Maryland had a few years ago when a HOF coach was nearing the end of their career. That team also was not enjoying the success that it once had. So, what happened? Maryland went out and hired one of the best and brightest up-and-coming coaches, and the program reached new heights...

The program is Maryland's women's basketball team, the HOFer Chris Weller, and the new coach Brenda Freese. In my opinion - and I'm very much a Gary Williams fan and admirer (I was a student at Maryland during the Bob Wade era - enough said!) - the men's team needs the same type of change.

One way would be this. Anderson and company work out a deal w/ Gary that he retires when his contract expires in 2 years. Just prior to the 2012-2013 season Maryland goes out and hires Gary's replacement. The replacement serves as the #1 assistant during the Gary Williams farewell tour...

Sound too far fetched? This is what happened at Purdue when Matt Painter took over for Gene Keady. The Boilermakers appear to be doing just fine now.

As far as who this person could be, I suggest the following. Someone who; 1) has a winning pedigree, 2) knows DC/B'more basketball, and 3) who can recruit. That person would be Stanford coach Johnny Dawkins!

For those who think hiring a Dukie to succeed Gary is unthinkable, the last Dukie hired to coach men's hoop didn't turn out too bad... As he used to say, "Aye can coach!"

Posted by: ziowa9 | March 4, 2011 3:04 PM | Report abuse

of course the seniors have had a tough situation this year - they had to play behind vasquez, hayes & milbourne for three years and didn't really have the playing time available to reach their potential. and now they are what they are - tucker is a spot-up 3 point shooter, bowie is great at penetrating but too often not aggressive, and gregory is an undersized power forward with a nice jumper. tucker is getting pt because his defense is decent and he's consistently engaged (which was always a knock on him in the past) and he can be streaky with the threes. gregory has elevated his game to a worthy starter-level consistency. bowie...if only he played every game like he did the last one against fsu, it'd be a whole different conversation.

i can't fault gary for targeting his recruiting at four year players instead of the one'n'done rent-a'stars, it's fun watching the kids get better every year (hopefully). but what can i say, i'm a huge dave neal fan. :)

and just you all wait...when coach k leaves duke you can drop them out of the "ucla, kansas, kentucky, unc" list. the one year he was out with back problems the dookies were terrible. then it'll be back to carolina and umd at the top of the acc, like in the good ole days! (and yes, gary will probably be gone by then too, i know)

Posted by: rm0659 | March 4, 2011 3:04 PM | Report abuse

Speaking of Kevin Anderson, last night I went to a dinner with Randy Edsall along with some other Terps Insider regulars. It was set up by the alumni association for our fraternity. I was impressed with some of the things he said, he talked frankly on a number of issues and said a lot of interesting things...But the most interesting comment of the evening came not from him but from a fellow alumni of our fraternity who sat on the board of the Eagle Bank bowl (before it was the Military Bowl).

We asked Edsall about getting into a similar situation that we were in this year with ending up in the Military bowl even though we were deserving of a better destination and what can be done to avoid this in the future. I followed up by mentioning to him that there is a perception that the "fix" was in from the get go, that we were going to the Military Bowl no matter what unless we went to the ACC title game (and thus could land in no worse than the 4th bowl slot for ACC teams). Remember, Prisbell knew for certain, absolute certainty, that we were going to the Military bowl...well before the regular season was even over. How did he know?

Turns out when Maryland was up for the Eagle Bank bowl a few years back (2007/08), the previous MD administration (Debbie Yow and co.) made a commitment to the bowl committee that the next time we were a possibility for the Military/Eagle Bank bowl, we promised them we would accept their invitation. It would make sense financially for Maryland to do so.

So....the fix was in from the very beginning folks. That's why Prisbell was so certain in his bowl prediction. That's why Kevin Anderson did absolutely nothing to try to lobby for the Champ Sports Bowl. And in my opinion, after knowing what we now know, I believe Friedgen's efforts to lobby for a better bowl destination really ticked off Anderson.

Posted by: Barno1 | March 4, 2011 3:08 PM | Report abuse

C'mon CM88...

no reason to lie about what i said...

you said you played college "ball"...I said it "you may or may not have played basketball" that an unfair characterization?

NEVER said you couldnt be a Terp fan! Its just that we dont usually draw our fan base from ex Duke, UVA or Stanford ballplayers

I never said missing the tourney was Ok or my bar for success...I merely recognized that it happens to everyone and based upon Garys success is no reason to fire him

You on the other hand, cant get past the fact that he is loud and animated on the sidelines during games and you twist this into your rants about him abusing his players and then try to use every loss or missed tourney as justification to satisfy your image of how a coach needs to act

Posted by: TerpfanMA | March 4, 2011 3:10 PM | Report abuse

Perhaps you could write a book on how coaches should behave? Could be a best seller? Perhaps even a movie? Who would play you, Jack Black?

Posted by: TerpfanMA | March 4, 2011 3:15 PM | Report abuse

On a serious note, I'd like to see Kevin Anderson find a replacement for Kevin Anderson.

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Posted by: Section505203 | March 4, 2011 3:17 PM | Report abuse

Ahem, ziowa9. Dawkins and Amaker are OURS for the taking. Don't think either would be the number two guy for a year to GW nor should they havve to - both have delivered winners at the big time college BB level. the HCIW did not work for FB and would not work for BB. GW should step down on his own terms, but without a farewell tour.

My prediction is that the next time MD has huge success - as early as next year - he walks. At which point Dawkins would be an excellent hire, although recruiting at Stanford is likely less of a hassle than at MD. Amaker makes for a better coach though.

Barno - in the interests of fairness and clarity, I did repost your Real Men of Genius post on a Duke board giving you full credit for writing it. Very, very well received after the VT loss.

Posted by: Duke-Rulz-1995 | March 4, 2011 3:19 PM | Report abuse

Duke Rulz,

Could you please repost here. I must have missed that one.

Posted by: Section505203 | March 4, 2011 3:40 PM | Report abuse

This is the poorest excuse for a senior class I've seen in over 40 yrs. of watching UM b-ball. They have "played without a complaint". They would not have made any other team in the ACC period. "Something rare to honor a 4 year commitment"....Smith and Singler did the same at hated Dook! And who do you think will be playing ball next year?

Posted by: 70Terp | March 4, 2011 4:09 PM | Report abuse

Terpfan,,,true, but it wasnt basketball, I am too short for basketball :)

Now if I couldnt get into MD, what the heck makes you think I could have gotten into any of those schools hahaha! I went to the best university for football players that got into trouble or bad grades, that then went to pros. I will let you figure that one out :) Think, one of the greatest football players ever to get kicked out of 2 schools and add major headcase to him.

Sorry I just dont agree with Gary's old school mentality/way he treats players.

How about us Garyhaters and Garylovers, just agree to disagree :)

End of the day, we all want MD to do better, I really hope Gary can find a way to beat UVA, sweep the ACC, and make it into the NCAA. I would love to eat my words more than anything!!!

I do like the Dawkins/Amaker ideas, but it would bug me for a while to have an ex-pukie coaching us. But like I said earlier, as long as we are winning again, I dont care who the coach is.

Have a great weekend, everyone! Hope we can beat UVA!!!

Posted by: cm88 | March 4, 2011 4:17 PM | Report abuse

BTW, pretty funny post (not from me) on Scout- Has Gary Williams Single Handedly Rebuilt Georgetown?

Posted by: cm88 | March 4, 2011 4:23 PM | Report abuse

Gee, Barno, did you man up with Coach Edsall and tell him how you have attacked the coaching change and not supported him? How you blasted his boos for the whole coaching change?

As for Senior Night... what can yo say? If all you can say is this: "But they’ll leave something behind that’s increasingly rare in college basketball: A four-year commitment to their team, through good times and bad," that's pretty pathetic. In NY we have the Yankees and the Mets. The Terps are now the Mets.

Posted by: petecard | March 4, 2011 4:28 PM | Report abuse

Man up? Jesus, that was beyond pathetic Petecard. Seriously. I have never attacked Edsall nor have I not supported him. And what on earth does "blasting his boos" mean? I have always said the issue was Kevin Anderson and not with Edsall. I have always said I'm sure Edsall is a fine coach but that isn't the point, that we had a fine coach. Man some people just don't know how to have a conversation without being excessively hateful and negative. Yes, I'm talking to you Peter the Hate.

And anyhow, Edsall said he reads what Jeff Barker and Steve Yanda write and mentioned the blogs and said he doesn't let any of the stuff that's been said bother him.

Posted by: Barno1 | March 4, 2011 4:43 PM | Report abuse

Hobbs or Lowe replacing Gary? Neither one especially Lowe can carry Gary's jock. I am a Marylander living in Carolina and all the local NC State fans are ready to puke if Lowe stays one more season! He's horrible!

Yes our seniors stink with the exception of Dino. Mosely stinks as well. Gary is a great coach and we do have good players coming in and a good nucleus of Williams,Stoglin and Peshon coming back. Parker is a great athlete who may develop and Padgett has shown improvement.

Gary's issue is he doesn't like to recruit! He must feel above groveling to spoiled 17 year old's who feel like the are all going pro and the school owes them for being gods gift to basketball.

There are two categories of schools who recruit well. The traditional blue bloods with long pedegrees like Carolina and Duke. The other are the schools with slick nickel coaches like Calapari,Calhoun and Bruce Pearl who kiss butt and tell recruits whatever they want to hear. Streching rules and dealing with street agents is the norm.

Posted by: fatlabriley2 | March 4, 2011 4:59 PM | Report abuse

Peter the Hate = laugh outloud funny

Looks to me like Petecard is jealous of barno1's dinner with Edsall. Has Petecard ever had anything nice or neutral to say about anyone or anything on any topic? He just seems like a very angry and bitter man.

Posted by: jj94_Terp | March 4, 2011 5:02 PM | Report abuse

Gary have you ever heard of reload?Why can't Maryland recruit local DC & Baltimore players

Posted by: goodeedward | March 4, 2011 7:22 PM | Report abuse

Gary have you ever heard of reload?Why can't Maryland recruit local DC & Baltimore players

Posted by: goodeedward | March 4, 2011 7:22 PM | Report abuse

Like Juan Dixon? (Calvert Hall, MD)
Like Steve Blake? (Oak Hill, VA)
Like Lonny Baxter? (Hargrave, VA)
Like Vasquez? (Rockville)
Like Eric Hayes? (Woodbridge, VA)
Like MD POY Sean Mosley? (Baltimore)
Like Nick Faust? (Baltimore)
Like Justin Anderson? Hopefully (Rockville)

Posted by: fushezzi | March 4, 2011 10:25 PM | Report abuse

Ah, the grapes are always sour at UAU. Another season, another sport, another mediocre team. And it's always the coach's fault, ya know? Nothin' to do with College Pork, MD., right?

How's the baseball team looking this year? Does that coach suck too?

Posted by: howjensen | March 5, 2011 8:17 AM | Report abuse

Barno, obviously we all have typo's from time to time. You should find something more substantive to attack. Everyone who reads this blog regularly knows I am not a hater and I have a consistent philosophy as a Terp fan. It is interesting how KA can be the object of hate by many, by criticizing GW's record and recruiting over an extended period is off limits. Barno, I know you are a Maryland fan and I think it's great you had dinner with Edsall. But your attacks on the football coaching change and KA have been vicious. It's just so interesting how you and others think that is fine to attack the AD, but Gary, old Gary, is off limits. Your idea of greatness, I guess, is one championship in a lifetime, 20 wins in a regular season and an occasional win against a top opponent. Some of us have higher aspirations. When I refer to you as Garo1, it's really not far fetched. It's scary real...

Posted by: petecard | March 5, 2011 8:54 AM | Report abuse

The Gary debate really centers on 1 question:

Do you believe that MDs recent record signifies that Gary cant win anymore or is it part of the ebb/flow of major college basketball?

Personally, I believe it is the latter and as I look at other top basketball coaches, the pattern of NIT appearances, and early Tourney outs seems remarkably similar(all the things that Gary is criticized for).....I am not going to look up every coach but I checked both Izzo and Boeheim and they resemble UMD to a large degree....
Both FOG and HOG want more wins and the repeated notion that FOG are satisfied with mediocrity is silly. We will ALL be disappointed if we dont go the tourney this year just as we are in any year.

Is there a coach out there whose extended record doesnt include some faults? I keep asking and nobody can provide...yep, even K has tourney misses and round 1,2 losses

Posted by: TerpfanMA | March 5, 2011 10:26 AM | Report abuse

A decent man would put the spotlight (and the responsibility) on himself-not Gary though. What a jerk.

Posted by: sjp879 | March 5, 2011 11:05 AM | Report abuse all of you who take some pleasure and feel some sort of self-aggrandizement by disparaging 18-22 year-old young men who are division 1 student-athletes - please crawl back into your hole. We're talking about "kids"..."kids" doing something that have and could never have major college basketball and be a full-time student. I am proud of every single terp player both for their basketball and for their comportment as solid young men. UMD is a tough place to recruit and to sustain winning due to its higher standards of admittance - even for athletes. Critique the coach - he gets paid; critique the system; but stop the personal attacks on the young men who are trying hard and are successful.

Posted by: conserveyor | March 5, 2011 11:06 AM | Report abuse

Oh yeah, I don't think any educated adult wants Bozeman within 100 yards of UMD basketball. Here is the name you all should be talking about-Jaime Dixon. I mean, anybody who can do anything close to what he has done at Pitt of all places should be considered a miracle worker.

Posted by: sjp879 | March 5, 2011 11:12 AM | Report abuse

Conserveyor, are you kidding us? Higher standards of admittance??? Chris McCray thinks you don't know what the hell you are talking about and so does Chris Wilcox, and Lonny Baxter, and 3/4ths of the football team. Stop with these crazy excuses. It makes you look biased, which of course you must be.

Posted by: sjp879 | March 5, 2011 11:17 AM | Report abuse

Gary, love you man ... But, you comments are painfully just hot air.

As a recruiter and coach, the Terps expect you to spot talent. You have been in the business long enough to see and spot poor, average, and expectional talents.

By all counts, Dino Gregory, Cliff Tucker, Adrian Bowie, and Sean Mosley are poor talent. They may be able to play in as back-ups. But, they are not starters, and would not be able to make it to the starting line up of any team in the ACC, PERIOD!

These seniors need to be ashamed of themselves, and their poor play.

What infuriates me the most, is you blind devotion to playing incompetent, inept, and ineffective seniors! Gary, it's too late for excuses. You knew this day was coming ... in that, there would be a significant drop in talent when Gervis, Eric, and a few other seniors left. But, you did precious little to fill in and clog the bleeding of talent!

Hate saying this, but we need to take a strong look at N. Carolina and Duke and their recruiting strategy. They lose talent every year, and someone either fills in just as well, if not better.

Our players appear to be much smaller than most ACC players. And, other than Stoglin and William, no one seems to be able to score when it's needed!

Not having a beyond the arc shooters has certainly been a HUGE handicap. In the not so distant past, that was hardly the case. We had accurate 3 point shooters. We had a great duo that protected the paint. But, we only have Williams now.

Time to rethink our going forward strategy. And, it starts with RECRUITING LOCAL TALENT. And, by that, I mean 5 and 4 star recruits.

For crying out loud, even St. Johns, does a better job!

If we were to get a new coach, not saying we should, I would like to bring in the St. Johns coach over. Young, talented, passionate, and successful!

Time to help build this program ground up --- so the phrase, "FEAR THE TURTLE" really carries some weight!

Go Terps! (And, it about time these talentless seniors are off the team).

Posted by: mi6-007 | March 5, 2011 12:00 PM | Report abuse

Gary has earned the right to have some mediocre seasons. As a life long Terp fan and grad, it hurts deeply when we are not in contention for the ACC title or a lock for an NCAA tourney bid but he is a very good coach. He doesn't play the AAU games and may get the 2nd tier kids but they typically stay 4 years and they get better every year - take a look at the NCAA championship team roster or better yet, look at last year's team. He brought back this program from the grave when nobody wanted to touch it. Give him some slack and he will get us back on top. If Gary were to leave, I would try to woo Johnny Dawkins away from Stanford - a DC native with a Coach K pedigree. Just saying....

Posted by: Testudo65 | March 5, 2011 12:29 PM | Report abuse

sjp879 - They are not crazy excuses...they are facts. Please do a little research and know what you're talking about before you post.

Posted by: conserveyor | March 5, 2011 12:42 PM | Report abuse

I think both us Garyhaters and Garylovers are all depressed at this point, so my last point about Gary and why I think he is failing is for all you very smart MD Business Grads out there, I hope this makes sense and you can understand, why I think Gary is and has been failing as a College Basketball coach in general, not as an X and O coach alone:

I was thinking about my sales team/company, and this is a truth that Gary at 66 cannot understand and why I also think he is over-rated and is not a HOF'r, cannot carry Lefty's jockstrap:

In business/sales/life- to sell any product, including yourself, you have to sell directly to the Decision Maker i.e. recruit and/or to the Key Influencer i.e the Parents, in order to close big deals i.e. big recruits. If you do not even meet with either the DM or KI, then you will not win big deals, you may occassionally close small deals and get lucky that those deals with grow/over-achieve ie. Nat Champ Team, but in the long run, your company due to the law of averages, will fail to succeed long the MD Basketball Program in its current status/last 8 years.

If a coach is too lazy/cocky to come to my house, as the Key influencer to my child, and show me that he is going to take care of my prize possession, i.e. my child, and another/every other coach is coming to me personally to insure and convince me that they will take care, protect, help grow, my child, then where do you think, I as the KEY INFLUENCER, in my childs life, am going to tell my child where to go???????

I hope this helps some of you very smart Business School MD grads understand the basic concepts behind running and leading a multi-million dollar business, like the MD Basketball Program. And, I hope you understand, why some HUGE MD fans like us, are sick of Gary for not doing or even trying to do a key component of his job, and why we think he is a failure and over-rated. If he has enough time to drink and party with coeds, then his lonely 66 year old single butt, can go see some parent/Key influencers, to close some big deals ie. Big time recruits,,,and stop making excuses for why he cannot or does not want them. The truth is he is lazy/cocky and doesnt want to try.

Gary or Anderson...if you happen to read this please retire Gary or Fire Gary, at the very least go take a basic business class and psychology class, so you can learn to run this very important business.

Sad times for true MD fans, this sucks!

Ps, whoever thinks we are getting invited to the NIT, right now we are a bubble NIT team, so thats even a wish, very pathetic job by Gary Williams. 4th NIT in 8 years, if we get invited.

Posted by: cm88 | March 5, 2011 4:41 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, Bozeman is hiding from his past alright........hiding right in the NCAA Tournament.

The man paid caught and paid the penalty. But when it comes to who should be coaching UMD....who would have better resume for the UMD. Not just a better W/L record, but who would have the contacts and the recruiting ability immediately?

Jamie Martin????? Why would he leave Pitt for UMD? If you think his leaving would be a no brainer....then you have a very optimistic view of UMD. Same with Lavin at St. Johns.

Posted by: UnFamiliarThought | March 7, 2011 11:14 AM | Report abuse

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