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Posted at 6:50 PM ET, 03/ 2/2011

OPEN THREAD: Maryland at Miami

By Matt Bonesteel

It's game time. Feel free to leave your thoughts on how the game is going in the comments.

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By Matt Bonesteel  | March 2, 2011; 6:50 PM ET
Categories:  Men's basketball  
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Hate having to watch online. Blurry and choppy.

http://www.myp2pforum.eu/threads/52742-NCAA-Basketball-Feb-28-Mar-06-Streaming

(Need StreamTorrent.)

Posted by: MrScrotums | March 2, 2011 7:14 PM | Report abuse

I will give you and update,,,we are getting are arses kicked...big surprise!

Posted by: cm88 | March 2, 2011 7:38 PM | Report abuse

uh oh, a Parker siteing, thats not good, Gary is losing his composure, well thats not a shocker. Down 13 at half to MIAMI, good by MD program! Thanks Gary, you are awesome hahaha

Posted by: cm88 | March 2, 2011 7:51 PM | Report abuse

Do I watch the 2nd half, or watch the girls on Idol??? Leave Bowie and Tucker on the bench, where they belong.. Leave in Hawk, at least he tries...

Posted by: frostanna | March 2, 2011 7:54 PM | Report abuse

Oh this is just classic, 3 on 1 fast break with Stog as the only defender, so they kick it out for a 3,,,no respect,,,Gary time out in the first 2 minutes of the 2nd half!

Wow Gary's halftime speech really fired up his team,,,hell of a coach that Gary is :) comical

Down 17 now!

Posted by: cm88 | March 2, 2011 8:12 PM | Report abuse

I loved Tucker fouling the 3point shot in the 1st half. Glad to see he's "stepped up" his game....

Of course if the Terps go on to lose, the FOG's will be here making excuse after excuse, why Gary has carte blanche to stay forever, and telling us why next year, or the 2012/2013 season will be the season when the Terps really turn it around and stop their rebuild.

Posted by: P00PY_MCP00P | March 2, 2011 8:13 PM | Report abuse

Poopy, have to admit, I was soooo wrong about Tucker, I really thought with GV gone, he was going to be an All Acc guy, wow he is painful to watch.

Uh oh, its a comeback,,,,against Miami haha,,,,down 10 woohooooo, NIT here we come!

Posted by: cm88 | March 2, 2011 8:15 PM | Report abuse

Oh, and still waiting for this to be answered:

"But seriously. If you have such a problem with the hiring practices, WHAT are you doing about it?

Posted by: marylandarlington | March 2, 2011 4:55 PM "

Posted by: P00PY_MCP00P | March 2, 2011 8:16 PM | Report abuse

cm88,

This is why I can never respect your opinions. It's all hyperbole with you. Think Gary doesn't recruit like his peers? Fine. Think he's a terrible coach? Asinine. Coming on to a MD blog to gloat when MD is losing a game? Doubly asinine.

Posted by: acebojangles | March 2, 2011 8:18 PM | Report abuse

Hahahah Top 10 program,,,,seriously Barno said that hahahaha,,was that an 82 RPI that just was on the screen??? Oh yeah, this program is on a great track to success.

Posted by: cm88 | March 2, 2011 8:20 PM | Report abuse

Well if you divide 82/10, you get 8.2, so maybe that's where the Top-10 number is coming from.

Posted by: P00PY_MCP00P | March 2, 2011 8:22 PM | Report abuse

Not gloating, just want Gary gone! You can say whatever you want to me, but Gary is failing, we are a pathetic program under him right now, sorry you dont get it. This sucks to watch us lose to a pathetic team like this and to be on the NIT bubble. Who is asinine? Me for wanting a change, or you for accepting failure?

Posted by: cm88 | March 2, 2011 8:22 PM | Report abuse

Btw, I hope we come back win and sweep the ACC's, thats the only freaking chance we have of going to the NCAA's, how F'in pathetic is that?

Posted by: cm88 | March 2, 2011 8:24 PM | Report abuse

Hey, if we get a change at HC and it doesn't work out I can see it now. The "smarter" posters will bring out the sweet bumpersticker line:

"How's that hope and change working out for you now?"

Or

"I'll keep my guns you keep the change."

Posted by: P00PY_MCP00P | March 2, 2011 8:24 PM | Report abuse

Hey, we're rebuilding. That's what all the elite programs do. They don't reload (reloading is way overrated), they rebuild. All the great ones do it.

You're not cool unless you do 2 things:

1) Pee your pants

2) Rebuild your bball program less than a decade after winning the Championship

Posted by: P00PY_MCP00P | March 2, 2011 8:27 PM | Report abuse

Amazing, Gary has been coaching for how many years, but every year he has no idea how to teach his kids to stop the 3 point shot or to rebound the ball,,,,HOF coach! Sure hope we dont have to face that powerful William and Mary team this year, that would just be ugly like last year, Go Gary!!!

Posted by: cm88 | March 2, 2011 8:33 PM | Report abuse

Here's my question:

Why, being we're really deep into the season, has Gary not actually come up with a way to attack a simple 2-3 Zone, when teams go to that to neutralize Williams down low?

Posted by: P00PY_MCP00P | March 2, 2011 8:36 PM | Report abuse

Even the commentator is telling Gary he should play man and not Zone, but Gary is to GREAT of a coach to realize that a zone doesnt work against a 3 pt shooting team. Great homework and preparation by Gary, awesome job! HOF coach??? hahahaha

update 5 minutes left and we are down 15,,,to MIAMI

Posted by: cm88 | March 2, 2011 8:42 PM | Report abuse

Expert Prediction By BARNO:

Miami hasn't covered the spread in a home game in 7 consecutive games. Make it 8 tonight. Lock of the year.

Posted by: Barno1 | March 2, 2011 12:35 PM | Report abuse

FINAL SCORE- Miami 80 Gary's Team 66

Pathetic!

Posted by: cm88 | March 2, 2011 8:56 PM | Report abuse

2 reasons why the Terps lost:

1) The Liberal Media

2) Affirmative Action

Posted by: P00PY_MCP00P | March 2, 2011 9:23 PM | Report abuse

You heard it here first. Maryland will win 4 straight in the ACC tournament and get the automatic bid to make it in the dance. On another note. The U.S. government will legalize marijuana.

Posted by: Nemo4 | March 2, 2011 10:25 PM | Report abuse

Wow, some of you guys seem to get more glee out of a Maryland loss than a win. Thats sad...

Posted by: Imjustlikemusiq | March 2, 2011 11:14 PM | Report abuse

hello anybody in here tonight? Is this broken.. taps the mike...

No seriously what gets under my skin is the utter refusal of the FOGS like Barno to at least admit that Gary and the program has slipped and slipped quite abit. In 7 years we now have 4 misses, two squeak ins, and one decent year where we went out in the round of 32.

I see three major problems one obviously being recruiting. We don't need a sleeze merchant but we need someone like a Jay Wright, Sean Miller, or Jamie Dixon that is out working the phones, trail, and building a network.

Another is philosophy. There were was an article earlier this year where Gary spoke wistfully of the days before the three point line. We don't recruit shooters and never have really had a strict specialist in the way every Big 12 and Big 10 seems to have. The 3 point line dominates college basketball and we're not going back to 4 corners.

The third is I think less and less guys are interested in the yelling in the face on the sidelines during games. I know Gary is calmer at practice and is a decent teacher, but even Grevis admitted that a lot of guys don't get Gary. They maybe wrong, but perception is reality.

I totally reject any notion that MD is not a top job and that we would be able to get just about any top assistant or mid-major coach we want as well as some bigger names like jay wright.

Posted by: restonhoops | March 2, 2011 11:46 PM | Report abuse

hello anybody in here tonight? Is this broken.. taps the mike...

No seriously what gets under my skin is the utter refusal of the FOGS like Barno to at least admit that Gary and the program has slipped and slipped quite abit. In 7 years we now have 4 misses, two squeak ins, and one decent year where we went out in the round of 32.

I see three major problems one obviously being recruiting. We don't need a sleeze merchant but we need someone like a Jay Wright, Sean Miller, or Jamie Dixon that is out working the phones, trail, and building a network.

Another is philosophy. There were was an article earlier this year where Gary spoke wistfully of the days before the three point line. We don't recruit shooters and never have really had a strict specialist in the way every Big 12 and Big 10 seems to have. The 3 point line dominates college basketball and we're not going back to 4 corners.

The third is I think less and less guys are interested in the yelling in the face on the sidelines during games. I know Gary is calmer at practice and is a decent teacher, but even Grevis admitted that a lot of guys don't get Gary. They maybe wrong, but perception is reality.

I totally reject any notion that MD is not a top job and that we would be able to get just about any top assistant or mid-major coach we want as well as some bigger names like jay wright.

Posted by: restonhoops | March 2, 2011 11:46 PM | Report abuse

I agree with most of what restonhoops said. The philosophy problem is also evident in not defending decent 3 point shooters either. Gary's defensive system relies too much on the other team missing from outside.

The terps have always pressed well, but struggle hugely in half court defense. A large part of this is the annual lack of a true defensive presence in the paint. Forget never recruiting shooters, Gary never gets a true center capable playing a few minutes, nonetheless starting. In the last few seasons we have had to struggle through starting Jordan Williams, Neal, Osby, Ibekwe, and Travis Garrison, as undersized centers. Every one of them would have been better as a forward or bench warmer. How in earth do people defend Gary's recruiting when David Neal started at center for a whole season? It wasn't even due to a player leaving early or injury.

Posted by: Dancy1 | March 3, 2011 1:43 AM | Report abuse

The main problem this year is that two seniors, Bowie and Tucker, didn't step up, like alot of us thought they would.. That shrinks the bench.. Since we don't have anyone who can really shoot, any team that plays a good man to man shuts us down.. Pack a zone, we have no clue what to do, cause no one, except for Stoglin, looks to attack.. Williams does, when he gets the ball, but teams are taking him away.. And don't worry, it's quite obvious his game is not NBA ready yet, so he won't be going anywhere...A disappointing season, yes, but that doesn't mean Gary has to go..A young team that has no upperclass leaders will look like this, no matter who is the coach..

Posted by: frostanna | March 3, 2011 6:41 AM | Report abuse

Been a Terps fan since the 50's. That tells you how old I am. I just don't get this insistence that we've got to get into the Big Dance! To do what? go out in the first round? There's over 300 Div. 1 schools and only 68 get into the NCAA's. Gary's teams have always depended on the advancement of the upperclassmen but this year they didn't. Tucker, Bowie and Mosley haven't stepped up their game except in spurts. Gary has NEVER really been able to recruit a real center. He's lucked into the ones he's gotten or created the beast like Baxter, Neal, or Ebekwe. Gary will never play the games with the AAU teams to acquire the questionable type of players other teams get. He'd rather build with players he can mold. He's won over 600 games that way so why is everyone thinking he can't coach. In the last 30 years less than 30 coaches out of hundreds have won a national championship. Your coach is one of those select few. Gary's record playing against #1 ranked teams is one of the best in the nation. So get off his back. The team will recover and so will you.

Posted by: bullwinkle1 | March 3, 2011 8:52 AM | Report abuse

Ijustlike....no its sad that fans like you and Barno, just want to stay the course and keep giving Gary a pass and more time. Yet, every year we hear stories of him not recruiting, not even trying and we end up with 3 star guys and hope they over-achieve, then you end up with Senior classes of Bowie, Tucker, and Dino, and blame the kids and say wait until next year. Seriously, its been 8 years of this now, how much longer do we keep giving the old man a pass??? If you truly love MD basketball like I do, then you are willing to take a chance on new blood, because it really cant get much worse than being a bubble NIT team, which is what we are today, thats just the truth, not opinion! If we lose to UVA and in the first round of the ACC, we probably arent getting an invite to the NIT.

Sorry but we shouldnt be happy with a coach that has Neal as a center, as Restonhoops said. We are excited about Jordan Williams, who is a 6'8 center,,,or Stog who is a pts first pt guard, we all know how those usually turn out, how deep did GV take us?? Great stats, but where are the deep ACC Tourn runs or NCAA tourn runs?

Anyone who thinks our freshmen are better than UNC's Kendell and Barnes, just dont understand basketball.

I love our freshmen, but I would love to kid studs like those guys, OCCASSIONALLY!

Gary cant get them, thats not because he doesnt want them as he tries to sell everyone, its because he wont try and also they dont want to play for him.

We need a change,,,otherwise 3-5 years from now, we will be still a bubble NCAA/NIT team every year, just like the past 8 years!

Posted by: cm88 | March 3, 2011 9:09 AM | Report abuse

A shallow bench indicates a recruiting problem. The program has slipped and it is frustrating to watch the Terps lose games like this.

At the same time, I find the insults hurled towards GW a bit excessive, especially after he won the ACC last year, and not to mention all of his other accomplishments at Maryland.

Posted by: SirPelleas | March 3, 2011 9:11 AM | Report abuse

SirPelleas, a lot of people fall back on the "tie" for the Acc reg season title or COY award last year. Please remember, how we did before the ACC season started, how bad the ACC was last year, how we did in the ACC tourn., and how we did in the NCAA tourn.

I get why people love/like Gary, but I dont get why you guys dont see why a lot of us want change, its been 8 years now, and now we are already seeing articles about NEXT year, and the season isnt even over.

This program is going down the drain, and it is Gary's program.

Posted by: cm88 | March 3, 2011 9:33 AM | Report abuse

Gary isnt going anywhere.

You may want him gone but no one, let alone the Athletic Dept, cares about your opinion.

Posting your wish for him gone on this blog continuously is nothing but annoying.

If that is your intention, by all means continue. Otherwise, stop talking about it.

Posted by: fushezzi | March 3, 2011 10:50 AM | Report abuse

Trust me, I know, but I can dream :) Btw, social media does have more of a voice than you know, so ya never know what a dbag like me can pull off :) And the Get Gary out sentiment is picking up on a lot of boards, Scout, etc. Trust me, Anderson is hearing it.

Posted by: cm88 | March 3, 2011 10:55 AM | Report abuse

Extra point,,,the real decision maker is $$$$$, we all know that...how are the MD basketball ticket sales going lately? :)

Posted by: cm88 | March 3, 2011 10:56 AM | Report abuse

I can assure you that there are twice the number of Pro-Gary people than Anti-Gary.

Maryland basketball brought in $10.8 million last year, tops amongst all its sports.

You going to come with a real angle or keep tossing out these weak retorts?

Posted by: fushezzi | March 3, 2011 11:05 AM | Report abuse

And Anderson doesn't care what you say.

You're not an alumni, you don't contribute money to the school.

Even if you did, unless you are throwing massive money at the University your opinion doesn't matter to the Athletic Dept. Go ahead, send them an email demanding Gary be fired. They'll send you an email back thanking your for your concern and delete your email afterward without second thought.

Go start a Facebook page to Fire Gary and see how far that social media gets you.

Posted by: fushezzi | March 3, 2011 11:09 AM | Report abuse

Guess you didnt get that I was kind of kidding, easy there garylover, geez. Glad youre happy with the state of the program, Mr. Alumni.

I am sure Anderson and MD doesnt care that the company I work for cancelled the season tickets we had, even if the CEO and VP are MD alumni. Youre right, noone cares that Gary is doing a bad job and ticket sales are down.

Posted by: cm88 | March 3, 2011 11:35 AM | Report abuse

Wow, some of you guys seem to get more glee out of a Maryland loss than a win. Thats sad...

Posted by: Imjustlikemusiq | March 2, 2011 11:14 PM | Report abuse

Man it's just great to click on the terps insider after a really tough loss to see a certain someone has posted a million comments rubbing in the loss to fellow Terps fans. Man that must be so fulfilling, the satisfaction he must be taking out of seeing his supposed favorite team lose just so he can go on a website and make fun of his fellow fans.

Posted by: Barno1 | March 3, 2011 12:48 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, I just don't really understand why you would take pleasure in Maryland losing if you're a Maryland fan. I can respect people's opinion on recruting or whatever, but Gary Williams is just not the type of coach that you want fired if you're a Maryland fan. He doesn't cheat, they never have a losing record (despite not always being "elite"), he loves Maryland. Maryland is not going to go to the Final Four every year. I know people may think I'm nuts, but isn't it more satisfying when they ARE really good because they aren't ALWAYS really good? It must be nice to be a Duke fan, but I almost think that would be sort of boring? There's no challenge in being a Duke fan and if Maryland started going 32-2 every year, I think it would be the same. As long as GW has been coach, Maryland has never, ever been a bad team. But sometimes they're great, and it's more fulfilling to be a fan that way, I think.

Maybe not, who knows. Go Terps.

Posted by: marylandarlington | March 3, 2011 1:00 PM | Report abuse

Amen marylandarlington. Amen.

Posted by: Barno1 | March 3, 2011 1:16 PM | Report abuse

Lets see when we win, you guys jump on here and make fun of us and tout Gary as the greatest ever, and I am on here defending my points about needing a new coach. When we lose, you guys disappear and then come back with the usual,,,how can you be a fan if you are on here gloating about a loss?? You must be a Duke fan,,etc.

You are a joke, I have said it before and it holds true...who is a better fan, someone that sits around and excepts a loser for a coach and a losing program for 8 years, or someone that gets tired of us going backwards and wants a change?

Sorry but I am someone that is tired of watching us go backwards, so yes, I am on here win or lose, not disappearing, so stop trying to make up stuff.

You said we you where going to laugh at us when we went to the NCAA's and I would be man enough to admit you where right.

When are you GARYLOVERs/excuse makers, going to be man enough to admit Gary is failing, not the players!

Thanks for your input Kids, let me know when you are a man!

You are worse than Duke fans at this point, you are just alumni that are in love with the coach not the MD program.

Posted by: cm88 | March 3, 2011 1:20 PM | Report abuse

As for your Amen to MarylandArlington....well I guess you have a different level for bad, than a lot of us do. If you think NIT is not bad or sub .500 in the ACC is not bad, then you are a different breed of MD fan.

As for the rest of us, Gary has led us to 3 sub .500 ACC seasons in just the past 8 years, and IF we make the NIT this year, it will be 4 NIT's in the past 8 years. And I guess Gary's early years, they werent bad teams either, yes he had excuses, but again, I thought you said Gary never had bad teams?

Please know MD basketball or at least have high expectations for them before you make silly statements,,,you will only have idiots like Barno agreeing with you.

Posted by: cm88 | March 3, 2011 1:33 PM | Report abuse

cm88, you are free to disagree with whate I said. But please don't say that I need to "know Maryland basketball" or that I am making "silly statements." I didn't insult you or say you were an idiot, I was just expressing my personal opinion so it's unnecessary for you imply that I don't know about the team. It's interesting that you seem to despise Barno, yet you don't realize you have turned into the bizarro Barno. For all that he is pro-Maryland, you are anti-Maryland. You use the same put downs when you disagree. However, when there are two extremes, I think most fans would reluctantly side with the positive extreme. Meaning...not you.

Posted by: marylandarlington | March 3, 2011 2:01 PM | Report abuse

Great point, sorry for the insult, was meant more towards Barno :)

While you think I am anti MD, I am actually PRO MD, just Anti Gary. Thats my issue with Garylovers like Barno, they just cant see past Gary and see that our program is regressing. Hope you see my point, my heart is allll about MD basketball and it kills me to watch this old man run our program into the ground. I was a fan as a little kid watching Lefty at Cole, and I will always be fan of MD and will always hate Duke :) Funny that growing up it was VA that was the big rival and now they are an afterthought. I still remember Ralph Sampson getting owned by Buck Williams :)

Go MD!

Posted by: cm88 | March 3, 2011 2:14 PM | Report abuse

"At the same time, I find the insults hurled towards GW a bit excessive, especially after he won the ACC last year, and not to mention all of his other accomplishments at Maryland.

Posted by: SirPelleas | March 3, 2011 9:11 AM"
-->Ask Fridge, how much COY means.

Posted by: break20 | March 3, 2011 3:21 PM | Report abuse

-->Ask Fridge, how much COY means.

Posted by: break20 | March 3, 2011 3:21 PM | Report abuse

ACC Coach of the Year still means something regardless of whether Kevin Anderson's firing of Friedgen. Let's keep things in perspective: that was the FIRST time, in the history of Division I conference football, that a conference coach of the year recipient was fired. First. Time. Ever.

Posted by: Barno1 | March 3, 2011 11:48 PM | Report abuse

*take the word "whether" out of the first sentence...it didn't belong there.

Posted by: Barno1 | March 3, 2011 11:51 PM | Report abuse

Bottom line.....as long as Gary wins 20 games a year he's not going anywhere. Gnash your teeth all you want but there are tons of programs who would want a coach who wins 20 games a year...conference or out of conference. As the old saying goes you don't miss your water till the well runs dry. Be careful what you wish for.

Posted by: bullwinkle1 | March 4, 2011 9:30 AM | Report abuse

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