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Posted at 1:16 PM ET, 03/10/2011

Talkin' Terps: How many Maryland wins at the ACC tournament?

By Matt Bonesteel

Good afternoon.

Maryland likely needs an unprecedented four-game run through the ACC tournament to make the NCAA tournament. Terrell Stoglin, for one, has the moxie to make it happen, Liz Clarke writes.

Also, be sure to read Jason Reid's column on Gary Williams.

How many wins will Maryland get in Greensboro? The floor is yours.

By Matt Bonesteel  | March 10, 2011; 1:16 PM ET
Categories:  Men's basketball  
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Most likely one, but the only number that would really surprise me is two. I could easily see them losing tonight and putting us all out of our misery (NIT misery notwithstanding). A matchup with Duke is a likely loss but you never know what can happen when it's Maryland/Duke. It's very hard for me to picture Maryland having enough guts to get past Duke and then let Florida State or anyone else they would be playing knock them out of the semifinals. But then in the finals against presumably North Carolina if Maryland has gotten that far they might just have the guts to win it, but Carolina would be more than formidable. So again I'll say they win tonight and get bounced by Duke, but not much would surprise me.

Posted by: Lumas101 | March 10, 2011 1:33 PM | Report abuse

Agreed, but I think the game against Duke will be close. We could have beaten them twice this year and our players know they can play with Duke. I don't see how we lose tonight, but I've been wrong before.

Posted by: Barno1 | March 10, 2011 1:37 PM | Report abuse

They will beat NC St in a tight game and then lose to Duke. This team has not shown any ability all year to win more than 2 in a row.

Posted by: Section505203 | March 10, 2011 1:59 PM | Report abuse

"Agreed, but I think the game against Duke will be close. We could have beaten them twice this year and our players know they can play with Duke. I don't see how we lose tonight, but I've been wrong before.

Posted by: Barno1 | March 10, 2011 1:37 PM"
-->Did you watch the same games as me? The first one was close for the most part, but Duke pulled away way before they should have. The second one wasn't as competitive as I think you think it was.

Posted by: break20 | March 10, 2011 2:02 PM | Report abuse

We should win tonight, will probably lose tomorrow. I hope I am wrong. Bottomline is this team isn't one of the best 68 teams in the country.

Posted by: break20 | March 10, 2011 2:03 PM | Report abuse

I predict 1.

Which is more than the number of comments posted on our other "local" team's blog.
Are there no VT fans interested in BBall if it isn't the Terps they are playing?!
I guess they're not interested in whether the sneak into the Big Dance, or that one of their fine young players is suspended for smokin' weed with Poop.

Posted by: mydogsnameisdixon | March 10, 2011 2:27 PM | Report abuse

We should win tonight, will probably lose tomorrow. I hope I am wrong. Bottomline is this team isn't one of the best 68 teams in the country.

Posted by: break20 | March 10, 2011 2:03 PM | Report abuse
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The NCAA is not composed of the best 68 teams in the country. It's composed of 31 automatic bids and then the remaining spots are filled with teams selected by a committee from the remaining pool of teams.

Posted by: fushezzi | March 10, 2011 2:27 PM | Report abuse

-->Did you watch the same games as me? The first one was close for the most part, but Duke pulled away way before they should have. The second one wasn't as competitive as I think you think it was.

Posted by: break20 | March 10, 2011 2:02 PM | Report abuse

Some people will hate this comment bc some people think the refs never play any roll in the outcome of games, but the refs really affected the 2nd game. We were right there with them in the second half, and if the refs don't call a ridiculous charge foul on a Stoglin bucket during our rally, we'd have cut the lead to 3 points with about 8 or 9 minutes left and had all the momentum we needed. The place would have exploded on that "and one" play. Instead, momentum was stolen from us by a ref who somehow missed seeing BOTH feet moving from the duke defender.

It was a crucial play that I believe changed the outcome of the game. It's not as simple as "we lost by 17" so one play couldn't have really matter. That one play changed everything in that game. Duke ended up pushing it right back up after we lost our momentum and the crowd never got a chance to get back into it.

so yes, we watched the same game but we just remember it a little differently.

And as you acknowledged, we could have won the game down in Durham. So yeah, I think we'll keep it close tomorrow nite.

Posted by: Barno1 | March 10, 2011 2:37 PM | Report abuse

So is Jason Ried a Garyhater or Garylover?

Posted by: cm88 | March 10, 2011 3:09 PM | Report abuse

It's no secret that the Post always has an axe to grind when it comes to Maryland basketball. I don't know what their beef is with the program but, it has become laughable at this point.

I love these two thrown in, buried sentences from Ried's article

"In fairness to Williams, the Terrapins are only one season removed from sharing the regular season ACC championship with Duke, and he was selected the conference's coach of the year for the second time. Entering this season, the Terrapins' 120 ACC victories over the previous 12 seasons were second only to Duke's 151."

Kind of says it all. The man is a winner. However, because he not on his knees sweating some prima donna, 1 and done recruits, that are usually also looking for special favors, Gary has lost it.

Complete Bullsh*t! The Garyhaters will continue to hate because he hasn't won enough for them over the last 7-8 period. Fine, let them hate, but Gary is a winner and he will prove them wrong in the end.

Posted by: Section505203 | March 10, 2011 3:32 PM | Report abuse

Four.

I am alum I thought Reid article was fair. You have to read the entire article before shooting from the hip. "Gary deserves to go out on his terms." This statement by Reid is near the end. I agree. And Gary will go out on his terms, after he gets us back to at least a couple of more Sweet 16's, at least.

Posted by: stevestegman | March 10, 2011 4:04 PM | Report abuse

Section,,,no personal attack, just wondering, so your answer is that Ried and Washington Post have it out for Gary? None of it is true? OK.

And, the list of players that have been listed that Gary "didnt" want i.e. prima donna's as you say. How many of them have been 1 and Doners? Because here is the list that most MD Fans are upset about, and I am not seeing it:

DaJuan Summers, Joseph Forte, Malcolm Delaney, Austin Freeman, Kevin Durant, Keith Bogans, Kris Joesph, Donte Green, Steve Wojo, Michael Beasley, Carmelo Anthony, Rudy Gay, Nolan Smith, Kendall Marshall

And saying that Gary didnt want Melo or Kevin Durant, is crazy. If he really didnt want them, then who is the real prima donna?

Posted by: cm88 | March 10, 2011 4:12 PM | Report abuse

I hope 4 but I think none. Beating NC State is no big deal, but we will not beat Duke. Duke is playing for a #1 seed and they will kill us. Let's see if Barno is willing to repost my comment about this or his...

Posted by: petecard | March 10, 2011 4:32 PM | Report abuse

CM88,

Gary didn't land these guys. OK.

Maybe some of these players didn't want to stay close to home. Maybe they wanted some money under the table or perhaps they didn't fit Gary's style and he didn't even bother. And Maybe Gary just flat out screwed up recruiting some of them. Quite frankly, I don't think some of the guys on the list could handle playing for an old school guy like Gary.

So why isn't JT3 over at G-Town getting similar articles written about him? He missed out on these same local players and he followed a Final Four up with 2 early exits and a 1st round exit from an NIT.

The Post has an axe to grind with Maryland basketball. This the like the 3rd article in the last say 2 years like this.

Why does a contiually underperforming, late season choking, JT3 led program at G-Town get a pass from criticism from the Post?

And why do I continue to bother debating with a Dude that cheers for his supposed favorite college team to lose and go to the NIT?

Posted by: Section505203 | March 10, 2011 4:39 PM | Report abuse

4

Regards -

-hgr

Posted by: Huge_Terpfan | March 10, 2011 4:39 PM | Report abuse

Jason Reid is my new hero. He really gets it. Funny, but from our TI regulars only Barno and I posted and, funny enough, Barno just complained about what idiots the other commenters are. What Reid knows and says is that we have a talent problem at Maryland and it is directly attributable to GW NOT recruiting like the top programs recruit. All in the name of playing by the rules, but in actuality it is laziness and ineptness. We ALL know it. It must be that every other great program and coach are simply cheaters. Reid uses my word, mediocrity, to describe what our program has become. He says that KA is a supporter of GW. Maybe, but that "greatness" thing ain't going to happen with Gary Williams.

Posted by: petecard | March 10, 2011 5:02 PM | Report abuse

How can the 2nd best team in the conference, 2nd only to the program with inarguably the best coach in college basketball, be considered mediocrity? In what world is winning year in and year out considered mediocrity? Gary put a player in the NBA last year, how many other ACC coaches did that not named Mike or Roy? He'll put another one in whenever JW decides to go,which will put him 2 ahead of the rest of the conference He was coach of the year last year and they were one lucky MSU shot away from the sweet 16 at least. And the problem this year was players underacheiving which rarely ever happens under Gary. Anyone who considers what Maryland has done in the years since Steve Blake that calles it mediocrity needs to read a freaking dictionary because they don't know what the word means. It's only mediocre if you compare it to what Duke has done in the same time frame, which is like saying we sucked when Lefty was hear because we didn't win as much as UCLA did. Get your head examined people. I want the Terps to win a national championship every stinkin year, but just because we don't doesn't mean we are "mediocre."

Posted by: bdub2 | March 10, 2011 6:57 PM | Report abuse

And another thing, for all of those who think Gary should go, who are they going to hire??? I know most of you aren't athletic directors in your day job so you don't spend all your time looking at other college coaches, but somebody has to have some idea right? When Dougherty was falling on his face in Durham, everybody and their mother knew Roy was waiting. Where is that guy for MD? Please, you people shout for Gary to go and you have zero idea of what might happen after that...

Posted by: bdub2 | March 10, 2011 7:01 PM | Report abuse

Gotta love Peter the Hate and Certified Moron88 bringing up Jason Reid's column over and over. I wonder if they actually read it. Reid disagrees with the HOGs about getting rid of Gary. Reid says point blank: Gary deserves to go on his own terms. He says point blank: Gary hasn't lost his coaching touch. Funny how they only read the parts that fit with their arguments. The truth is I don't put any stock into what Jason Reid writes anyhow. The guy was a horrible beat reporter for years and isn't any better as a columnist.

Oh, and Certified Moron88, you keep calling it Reid's "article." Do you really not know the difference between an article and a column? I mean, everyone on here knows you're an idiot...but how stupid can one person really be?

Posted by: Barno1 | March 10, 2011 7:51 PM | Report abuse

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