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Posted at 8:56 AM ET, 03/ 9/2011

Terps open ACC Tournament against long odds

By Liz Clarke

Nothing fires up Gary Williams quite like being counted out. Maryland’s fortunes in the ACC tournament will depend on whether his Terrapins relish being overlooked just as much.

Maryland (18-13, 7-9) enters the tournament as the seventh seed and not even part of the national discussion about which ACC teams have something appreciable at stake in the coming days.

Duke (27-4, 13-1), North Carolina (24-6, 14-2) and Florida State (21-9, 11-5) are locks for the NCAA tournament. Depending how deep into the ACC the selection committee dips, Clemson (20-10, 9-7), Boston College (19-11, 9-7) and Virginia Tech (19-10, 9-7) could join them, as well.

That leaves just one route for the Terps: Winning the ACC Tournament outright, which would mean a victory over N.C. State (15-15, 5-11) Thursday, an upset of fifth-ranked Duke on Friday and two victories beyond that.

No team has strung together four ACC tournament victories since the league expanded to 12 teams.

In preparing his Terps for the tournament (a new experience for freshmen Terrell Stoglin, Pe’Shon Howard, Hauk Palsson and Mychal Parker), Coach Williams has highlighted Maryland’s record of responding to adversity.

“I thought we had to win two games in ‘09 to have a chance for the NCAA Tournament, and we did,” Williams said following the Terps’ final practice before heading to Greensboro. “I’ve always been big on that. If you do have a positive experience, you use that as a way to justify having it again. You can talk about hope. Once it happens, you have legitimate reason to think it can happen again.”

Maryland last won the ACC Tournament in 2004 with a 95-87 overtime victory against Duke. The Terps are the only team other than North Carolina or Duke to have won the ACC Tournament in the last 14 years. Duke has won nine in that span; North Carolina, four.

This season’s Maryland squad handicapped its chances by losing its final three games of the regular season, each by double digits, falling at North Carolina by 11, at Miami by 14 and at home against Virginia by 14.

While poor defense was largely responsible, Maryland’s offense was less prolific, as well, with each game since the 87-80 victory over N.C. State on Feb. 20. In the four games that followed, Maryland went 1-3 and scored 78, 76, 66 and 60 points, respectively.

It’s expected to be the final ACC Tournament for N.C. State Coach Sidney Lowe. The Wolfpack has failed to advance to the NCAA tournament in five seasons under Lowe, a proud N.C. State alum. And this year’s squad under-performed given what was considered an outstanding recruiting class led by freshman forward C.J. Leslie (11.2 points, 7.1 rebounds per game), who joined Maryland’s Stoglin on the ACC’s all-Freshman team announced earlier this week.

By Liz Clarke  | March 9, 2011; 8:56 AM ET
Categories:  Gary Williams, Men's basketball  | Tags:  ACC Tournament, Maryland basketball, N.C. State basketball, NCAA Tournament  
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Comments

We're winning 4 games this weekend baby. I can feel it.

To quote Macho Man Randy Savage, "Ooooooooooooooh Yeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh!"

Posted by: P00PY_MCP00P | March 9, 2011 9:19 AM | Report abuse

Ending Sid Lowe's career at NCST may be a damning in disguise. But it needs to be done. Beating Duke....that will be tough.

Regards -

-hgr

Posted by: Huge_Terpfan | March 9, 2011 10:24 AM | Report abuse

terps half court offense is terrible, and will be til jw learns to pass out of the double team and we hit some threes as a result. until then, they have to rely on the defense to generate easy chances.

good luck, terps. you're gonna need it.

(and how about playing weijs and williams at the same time for a change so we're not at such a constant size disadvantage? weijs has looked decent in his very limited minutes. it's not like playing three guards all the time has been super-effective)

Posted by: rm0659 | March 9, 2011 11:54 AM | Report abuse

Agree about Weijs. Not sure why Gary hasn't played him more this year. Every time he gets in he seems to play well.

Posted by: Barno1 | March 9, 2011 12:13 PM | Report abuse

The way the Terps are playing they will be lucky to beat State? We barely beat them at Comcast and State usually plays well in the ACC tounament.

If we get past State, Duke will mercifully finish off a dead horse?

Get to the NIT, play the underclassmen and hope for the best!

Posted by: fatlabriley2 | March 9, 2011 2:05 PM | Report abuse

If...If we get past State? I know this has been a down year but come on they're terrible and Gary has never lost to Sidney Lowe and more importantly NC State sucks. If NC State is even a question there is no point in even debating our chances against Duke.

Posted by: Terpopoly | March 9, 2011 3:22 PM | Report abuse

I'd hate to be all negative,so I'll just say we have really good jump shooters, just not at a 10' rim.

Posted by: sruppert | March 9, 2011 4:10 PM | Report abuse

Agree about Weijs. Not sure why Gary hasn't played him more this year. Every time he gets in he seems to play well.

Posted by: Barno1

We ALL know Dino Gregory, Padgett and Tucker are superior, right?
Maybe Gary's afraid Weijs will snap in two or something like that...
But if he plays like he did in the 3 minutes he had against UVa ( a basket, a rebound and a block), nawwww...can't see him playing...(rolleyes).

Posted by: M20832 | March 9, 2011 4:20 PM | Report abuse

Game vs. NC State is no lock.. Yes, they are not very good, but the game will be played in a half empty arena, with no atmosphere or emotion to feed off.. Has the makings of a real yawner to watch..Should be able to hear the sneakers squeak real well... Go Terps !!!

Posted by: frostanna | March 9, 2011 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Weijs is not better than Gregory. But his length could prove effective, problem is, nearly every time down he commits a foul. He needs to learn how to not go after every single shot, he will probably be useful next year down the stretch.

Posted by: Imjustlikemusiq | March 9, 2011 6:26 PM | Report abuse

Go MD, good luck in the NIT!

Posted by: cm88 | March 9, 2011 4:35 PM
_________________________________________________________

This comment right here tells me all I need to know about CM88. He is NOT a Maryland fan. He's a troll that hates the Terps and he comes on here to stir it up.

What true Maryland fan (regardless of how you feel about Gary) say's something like this? The statement is mocking Maryland. He says it with such glee, like he's happy about it.

He just showed his true colors.

Posted by: Section505203 | March 9, 2011 8:36 PM | Report abuse

He is happy about it....he hates gary and has been carrying his bitterness around for 20 yrs.....he is on here now because the Terps have had a tough season and he can find some company with others who want Gary fired

Posted by: TerpfanMA | March 9, 2011 8:38 PM | Report abuse

TerpfanMA please name just one major program that has missed 4 out of 8 tournaments and kept that coach. Just one please.

Posted by: restonhoops | March 9, 2011 9:08 PM | Report abuse

restonhoops please name just one major program that made the tournament 14 of 17 years and fired their coach. Just one please.

Posted by: Barno1 | March 9, 2011 9:25 PM | Report abuse

*Bob Knight does not count, for obvious reasons (he wasn't fired for a lack of success).

Posted by: Barno1 | March 9, 2011 9:27 PM | Report abuse

Denny Crum Barno now shut the #@#@#% up

Posted by: restonhoops | March 9, 2011 9:32 PM | Report abuse

Gene Keady for another. Both Gene and Denny were pushed out the same way Gary will be, behind the scenes and Gary will announce his retirement.

Posted by: restonhoops | March 9, 2011 9:35 PM | Report abuse

Nolan Richardson for yet another

Posted by: restonhoops | March 9, 2011 9:36 PM | Report abuse

Please now list the one coach that missed 4 out of 8 years and kept his job.

Posted by: restonhoops | March 9, 2011 9:40 PM | Report abuse

Coach K said he has tried to build winning teams based on his 1986 Final Four team. UMD won The Title going 4 deep in the post and 10 deep.

Posted by: Realness1 | March 9, 2011 9:42 PM | Report abuse

Denny Crum retired Restonhoops now shut the #@#@#% up

Not only did Nolan Richardson not go to 14 NCAA tourneys in 17 years, he wasn't even fired for lack of performance (and how has Arkansas done since they got rid of him? Hmmm?) restonhoops now shut the #@#@#% up

Posted by: Barno1 | March 9, 2011 10:31 PM | Report abuse

Still waiting for you to name a coach who went to 14 NCAA tourneys in 17 years and was fired for a lack of performance. Still waiting...

Cue the jeopardy song.

Posted by: Barno1 | March 9, 2011 10:32 PM | Report abuse

John Chaney - As head coach of Temple, John Chaney went to the NIT 4 out of 8 times from the 1997-1998 season to the 2004-2005 season. He returned for the 2005-2006 season. Now please, shut the F up about Gary. He's not going anywhere and this constant debate about it is stale.
----------------------

Please now list the one coach that missed 4 out of 8 years and kept his job.

Posted by: restonhoops | March 9, 2011 9:40 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: fushezzi | March 10, 2011 7:48 AM | Report abuse

These 2 lines from Jason Rieds article today pretty much sum up why we FANS/Garyhaters want him gone:

In recent years, though, Williams also has fallen short of the high competitive standards he set, while refusing to revise his outdated recruiting philosophies

The Terrapins are no longer nationally relevant.


That pretty much sums it up for you kids, congrats, again Gary did a great job turning the program around, but now he is failing and we are no longer nationally relevant,,,awesome!!!

You real terp fans must be proud of Gary, good luck in the NIT Gary!

Posted by: cm88 | March 10, 2011 8:19 AM | Report abuse

Funny how other coaches arent cheating and getting the top players, but Saint Gary doesnt cheat or even show up from what it sounds like, doesnt want to go to a gym and watch games at 66, how pathetic!

Great final line(this fits you Garylovers to a tee and is exactly what I have been saying)
And as long as Williams remains on the job, Maryland basketball probably will continue adhering to the rules and winning games. Just not nearly as many games as most of its fans would prefer.

Posted by: cm88 | March 10, 2011 8:23 AM | Report abuse

At 66, doesnt want to go sit in a gym,,,,then retire!

Great final line in the article, says exactly what we have been trying to say all year, but Garylovers just dont want to hear it, amazing how other coaches dont cheat and get top recruits, but Gary doesnt cheat or get top recruits, great future for us:

And as long as Williams remains on the job, Maryland basketball probably will continue adhering to the rules and winning games. Just not nearly as many games as most of its fans would prefer.

Posted by: cm88 | March 10, 2011 8:30 AM | Report abuse

Do I read correctly that the UM game today is the only one of the four ACC tourney games played today that is NOT on over-the-air TV in the DC-Baltimore markets, i. e., UM's home markets?

You want a sign that UM is no longer relevant? Look no further.

Actually the whole ACC is largely irrelevant.

Posted by: mightymax | March 10, 2011 8:54 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: mightymax | March 10, 2011 8:54 AM

The 7/10 game was scheduled to be on ESPN2 before the seeds were set.

Posted by: Realness1 | March 10, 2011 9:12 AM | Report abuse

Realness1:

OK, so the 7/10 gamke was scheduled to be on ESPN2 before the seeds were set. Was that game exclusive to ESPN2 such that it could not be available to outlets in local or ACC markets as the Semis and the Final are?

Posted by: mightymax | March 10, 2011 9:38 AM | Report abuse

Yes. The only one.

http://www.theacc.com/championships/11-acc-mens-basketball-tournament.html

Posted by: Realness1 | March 10, 2011 10:08 AM | Report abuse

If Sidney Lowe's Wolf Pack beats the Terps should KA consider him as a candidate to replace Gary?

Posted by: petecard | March 10, 2011 10:33 AM | Report abuse

HEELLLL NO!!!

Posted by: cm88 | March 10, 2011 11:10 AM | Report abuse

"

Go MD, good luck in the NIT!

Posted by: cm88 | March 9, 2011 4:35 PM
_________________________________________________________

This comment right here tells me all I need to know about CM88. He is NOT a Maryland fan. He's a troll that hates the Terps and he comes on here to stir it up.

What true Maryland fan (regardless of how you feel about Gary) say's something like this? The statement is mocking Maryland. He says it with such glee, like he's happy about it.

He just showed his true colors.

Posted by: Section505203 | March 9, 2011 8:36 PM"
-->I think most people think it's a foregone conclusion that the Terps will be in NIT at this point. I think cm88 might just be fed up. Again, I don't know cm88 but just one possible explanation.

Posted by: break20 | March 10, 2011 11:12 AM | Report abuse

"restonhoops please name just one major program that made the tournament 14 of 17 years and fired their coach. Just one please.

Posted by: Barno1 | March 9, 2011 9:25 PM"
-->Barno, you like to manipulate the numbers to your liking? You care too much about the distant past. Let me remind you once again, it's been nearly a decade since the national championship and eight years since they last made it past the second round. Who has been the coach for the 3 NIT appearances and all those second round exits since that Sweet 16 appearance?

Posted by: break20 | March 10, 2011 11:17 AM | Report abuse

Restonhoops,

After winning the NC in 2006 and 2007, Billy Donovan has missed the NCAA tourney the last 2 out of 3 years. What is FL waiting for? Donovan has gotten complacent.

Roy Williams went 5-11 last year after winning the NC. UNC was well on their way to another bad year until Larry Drew II quit the team (Roy didn't bench him). Just goes to show the difference that one bad recruit can make.

Pete,

I agree. We have two stars and a bunch of role players. The senior class was, except for Dino, a bust and consequently we are most likely NIT bound.

I have no problem with one rebound year (look at UNC). I expect next year to be a top-25 team (if JW stays).

Posted by: larry31 | March 10, 2011 11:18 AM | Report abuse

"John Chaney - As head coach of Temple, John Chaney went to the NIT 4 out of 8 times from the 1997-1998 season to the 2004-2005 season. He returned for the 2005-2006 season. Now please, shut the F up about Gary. He's not going anywhere and this constant debate about it is stale.
----------------------

Please now list the one coach that missed 4 out of 8 years and kept his job.

Posted by: restonhoops | March 9, 2011 9:40 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: fushezzi | March 10, 2011 7:48 AM"
-->I like to think we have a better basketball than Temple, even if we lost to them this year.

Posted by: break20 | March 10, 2011 11:25 AM | Report abuse

Break20, thanks for understanding that some of us are just pissed off at this point. Some are ok with NIT's, some of us expect more. That article today by Jason Ried is exactly what us "garyhaters" have been saying, but some how, BARNO, SECTION, TERPFANMA, and others just keep making excuses for Gary, eventhough its true that he doesnt recruit, doesnt like to recruit, and the program is regressing.

Larry, I hope you are right and we rebound next year, but its not like UNC with one year, again, its 4 NIT's in 8 years, and a bunch of 2nd round NCAA losses. Is that a rebuilding year or just one year? No, its a trend, and a downward trend. If you think tying last year for a ACC reg season title is success that overcomes 8 years of mediocracy, then we are on a different page.

As Jason Ried said,,,Maryland is no longer Nationally relevant....thats a terrible statement about the MD program.

If Gary built it as some say, then he also is tearing it down.

I get that Gary did a GREAT job of turning this program around, guess what, he got paid very well for it, but now he is failing and be lazy on a 7 figure salary, that the MD students/alumni/boosters pay for, congrats on that!

Posted by: cm88 | March 10, 2011 11:27 AM | Report abuse

CM,

The MD job, was not exactly the pick of the litter under Debbie Yow. It wasn't unitl she left that Randy Eaton raised the payroll for the men's asst coaches to be HIGHER than the women's. I just don't see Mike Brey or Jay Wright pining to be in that position. As of now, I don't think any b-ball coach would get a warm and fuzzy feeling about coming to MD with KA in charge.

GW saw a lot of staff turnover 2-3 after the NC, which KILLED recruiting. (I beleive Donovan is experiencing the same problem at FL) GW has had a stable staff for a few years and I think the 2010 and 2011 classes are a reflection of that. Expect a serious run for the next 5 years with the current staff intact. And then Eshan and Bino Ranson will get head coaching gigs and GW will retire.

Posted by: larry31 | March 10, 2011 11:47 AM | Report abuse

"Do I read correctly that the UM game today is the only one of the four ACC tourney games played today that is NOT on over-the-air TV in the DC-Baltimore markets, i. e., UM's home markets?

You want a sign that UM is no longer relevant? Look no further.

Actually the whole ACC is largely irrelevant.

Posted by: mightymax | March 10, 2011 8:54 AM"
-->Sorry moron, I believe it's the only game on for a national audience. Now go back under your shell!

Posted by: break20 | March 10, 2011 11:56 AM | Report abuse

Larry31,
First of all, Florida is NOT a basketball school, we are. Second, Florida seems to be heading in the right direction, are we? I know we supposedly have this great recruiting class coming in, but wasn't Parker supposed to be the savior this year? Weren't the Seniors and Mosely supposed to step-up. Fail, Fail.

Posted by: break20 | March 10, 2011 12:06 PM | Report abuse

Larry, if you are right, I will go back in my hole and disappear again, all I care about is us winning. I dont care who the coach is, even if I dont like him, if we are winning or really competing for titles, then Gary can die of old age on the bench. But I do think he has to learn to stop letting his ego get in the way and start going out and working at recruiting again, thats the only way we are going to be consistant again.

Eventhough I am pissed at this year and the past 8 years under Gary, I still hope we somehow sweep the ACC tourn and get into the NCAA's. It wouldnt make this year a success, as some would suddenly say, but it would make it bareable like the past 8 years when we snuck into the NCAA's.

Posted by: cm88 | March 10, 2011 12:14 PM | Report abuse

Break20,

I was responidng to restonhoops and merely providing an example of another prominent coach who has stumbled after winning a NC. If you check the posts, Restonhoops did not insist on the criteria to be a "basketball" school. Hell, if you win two NC's in a row, that makes you pretty damn good...call 'em whatever you want.

Terps 2001-2005:
2 Final Fours (with 1 NC), 2 NITs, 2 NCAAs

Gators 2006-2010:
2 Final Fours (with 2 NCs), 2 NITs, 2 NCAAs

A very similar pattern. Donovan has struggled to reload his coaching staff because his budget is limited by the influence of the football program. GW's struggles to reload his staff were limited by Debbie Yow trying to turn women's b-ball into a revenue sport similar to Uconn and Tenn.

I was touting Stogs and Howard...and they did not disappoint. If Parker doesn't become Mike Jones, Part 2, i will be thrilled...he just didn't show the b-ball acumen that Hoawrd and Stogs displayed. Hawk was a pleasant surprise and Pankey gets a pass for now, but I fear that he will become Jerome Burney, part 2...hard to blame GW on this one because Pankey was offered and committed before he got injured.

Posted by: larry31 | March 10, 2011 12:47 PM | Report abuse

"A very similar pattern. Donovan has struggled to reload his coaching staff because his budget is limited by the influence of the football program."
-->Really?, Donovan got compensated better after they each won their respective championships in the same calender year. I'm sure eventually Urban made more.

Are we limited by the football program. They have increased their budget with the contract they gave to Crowton, among other assistants.


"GW's struggles to reload his staff were limited by Debbie Yow trying to turn women's b-ball into a revenue sport similar to Uconn and Tenn."
-->They did win a national championship and have been a better team than the men this year. I'm sure MD isn't the only school that has tried to have a good women's program. I know they have sold out against Duke in the past, so I don't think it was a complete failure.

Btw, ever heard of Title IX?

Posted by: break20 | March 10, 2011 1:33 PM | Report abuse

Terps 2001-2005:
2 Final Fours (with 1 NC), 2 NITs, 2 NCAAs,

Larry Legend, we actually only went to 1 NIT in that span...1 final four, 1 national title, 1 sweet 16, and 1 NIT. But you are right, the morons who want Gary fired would have run Billy Donovan out of Florida by now and probably Roy Williams after last season's debacle.

Posted by: Barno1 | March 10, 2011 1:39 PM | Report abuse

Barno,
I am not suggesting firing him, just some accountability. Tell me his postseason record since 2004 and whether that is acceptable to you.

Posted by: break20 | March 10, 2011 1:59 PM | Report abuse

Barno you are so full of it and as CM88 says you lose every arguement you undertake. Denny Crum was pushed out and any Louisville fan will tell you that. My college roommate was from Louisville and his buddy's dad was a big booster. He did not resign because he wanted to. I still have not heard the ONE coach in all of america that runs a major program that missed 4 out of 7 years and kept his job. Just one. That's all I ask.

Posted by: restonhoops | March 10, 2011 2:17 PM | Report abuse

--I am not suggesting firing him

Ummm, Good, because I can assure you Gary isn't getting fired.

--just some accountability.

What justifies you requesting that he be held accountable?

Do you live in Maryland and pay taxes? If yes - continue. If no - stop.

Do you have experience running a successful program? If yes - continue. If no - stop.

Have you been to a final four? Won a national championship? Even coached before? I'll even count pee-wee hoops.
If yes - continue. If no - stop.

You can request accountability all you want but the fact is you have done nothing to warrant such a request. You follow the team. Congratulation. That doesn't give you the right to dictate what we should or should not do or determine who or who not should be held accountable.


-- Tell me his postseason record since 2004 and whether that is acceptable to you.

Why limit it to 2004? Take the whole body of work and tell me how many other coaches in the country have that resume. There are 347 D1 bball programs and 11 have a resume that can compare. 336 fall short.


Move on to a new topic. Gary isn't going anywhere.

Posted by: fushezzi | March 10, 2011 2:18 PM | Report abuse

"he was forced out"

bottom line is Crum retired. Fridge was forced out to but he didn't "retire" he was "fired". There is a difference. I don't care if your ex college roommate's dad's friends with Crum--which was pretty hilarious just reading that.

And as for one coach from a major program that kept his job after 4 NITs in 8 years, as fushezzi already pointed out, Jon Chaney kept his and please don't try to claim Temple didn't used to be a big time program cause you'll just be proving your ignorance once again Restondupe.

Posted by: Barno1 | March 10, 2011 2:21 PM | Report abuse

"-- Tell me his postseason record since 2004 and whether that is acceptable to you.

Why limit it to 2004?
--------------------------------

Why limit it to 2004? Because we ALL know that if they look at the whole body of work they have no argument whatsoever. So they are reduced to looking at a cherry-picked 7 year window of a 22 year coaching career. If they were really honest, they'd look at the entire body of work...we can all play the cherry-picking stats game, how bout we just look at the last 4 years. 3 Ncaa tourneys, a 25 win season (3rd most in school history), an ACC title, and an ACC Coach of the year award. But nah, let's just look at 7 years since that is the only convenient time period that even remotely fits their delusional argument.

I really wish we could look at the average IQ of those that want Gary fired vs those that still support Gary. We already know that the most vocal anti-Gary guys on this board didn't even go to UMD. My guess is if we took the average IQ of Restonhoops, Petecard, CM88 vs everyone else on this board, they're be a pretty wide gap in favor of the FOGs over the HOGs.

Posted by: Barno1 | March 10, 2011 2:26 PM | Report abuse

Barno, since my IQ is so low, can you explain away the article today in the Wash Post regarding the recruiting, Md not being of Relevence, etc.? Seriously, I am done with personal attacks if you are, I just want to know how someone cannot see the major issues with our program and the direction it is going?

I am not cherry picking, I/we are looking at an 8 year run. His complete body of work is very good, but its going downhill, do you not see that?

Posted by: cm88 | March 10, 2011 2:32 PM | Report abuse

If it's going downhill how did we win the ACC title last year? You love to say that was the weakest year in the history of the ACC, but that again just shows your ignorance. 6 ACC teams made the tournament last year, including the national champs. The ACC had the 2nd highest conference RPI last year, behind only the Big East. The reason you think the ACC was so weak is likely because UNC was down, but this is an 11 team conference and just because one of the powers is having a down year does not mean the conference was the weakest it had ever been. This year the conference is the weakest it's been, but last year it was still a very tough conference...and minimalizing our share of the ACC title last year so that you can continue to bash Gary only shows how partisan you are on this issue. Any objective follower would at least acknowledge that Gary did a fabulous coaching job last year in guiding us to a 13-3 record and share of the ACC title. But you can't see that bc you are blinded by your hatred of Gary.

Posted by: Barno1 | March 10, 2011 2:45 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, but my ignorance allows me to see that we lost to William and Mary and other unranked teams prior to the ACC season, then we lost in the first round of the ACC and 2nd of the NCAA, so you can spin it one way, but I see it a different, because of the past 8 years, not just for 1 year. I am not that quick to react, just like I wouldnt be if I where a UNC fan with the year they had last year.

You can keep saying Gary did a fab job, and does more with less, but thats a key issue, since he is too lazy to recruit, he gets less to start off with and thats why we are frustrated. Hoping that a kid over-achieves and being happy with sharing a reg season title and failing in both the conf and NCAA tourns, is failure in my eyes. Sorry but my blinded hatred is on par with your blinded love for a man, and not a program.

Done debating with you, you dont want to address the article and the very well made points by the writer who knows more than you or me, but I am sure you would find holes in his story too.

Go terps! I hope we beat NC State and kick Pukies butts!!!

Posted by: cm88 | March 10, 2011 2:54 PM | Report abuse

"Sorry, but my ignorance allows me to see that we lost to William and Mary and other unranked teams prior to the ACC season"

Yeah, we also beat the Duke, the national champs, and smoked North Carolina by their biggest margin in Roy Williams coaching career. But hey, we lost a meaningless Dec. 30th game to William and Mary when the students were on winter break and the arena was empty, so who cares if we won the ACC title, right Certified Moron88?

Posted by: Barno1 | March 10, 2011 9:41 PM | Report abuse

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