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ABC News: Edwards Admits to Affair

By Ed O'Keefe

Updated: 5:16 p.m. ET

Edwards released a statement admitting he made "a serious error in judgment and conducted myself in a way that was disloyal to my family and to my core beliefs. I recognized my mistake and I told my wife that I had a liaison with another woman, and I asked for her forgiveness. Although I was honest in every painful detail with my family, I did not tell the public. When a supermarket tabloid told a version of the story, I used the fact that the story contained many falsities to deny it. But being 99% honest is no longer enough.

Among other things, Edwards' incredibly candid statement says that "In the course of several campaigns, I started to believe that I was special and became increasingly egocentric and narcissistic. If you want to beat me up -- feel free. You cannot beat me up more than I have already beaten up myself. I have been stripped bare and will now work with everything I have to help my family and others who need my help."

Original Post: Former senator and presidential candidate John Edwards confirms to ABC News that he had an affair with former campaign aide Rielle Hunter but says he "did not love her" nor did he father her child.

John Edwards
Former North Carolina Sen. John Edwards during a July news conference in July. (AP Photo/Damian Dovarganes, File)

The story was revived recently by the National Enquirer and Edwards confirms to ABC that the magazine's story about his reported visit to the Beverly Hills Hilton hotel was correct. The so-called "mainstream" news media has talked little about this story, however today's confirmation should change that quickly. (Listen to an interview with the National Enquirer reporter Alan Butterfield recorded just after Edwards admitted the affair.)

Edwards denounced reports of the affair during his presidential campaign and as recently as July, as seen in this video at an event in Houston answering a question about the National Enquirer story.

The interview, conducted by Bob Woodruff, will air tonight on "Nightline," and an ABC News source says there should be more reporting by other ABC reporters.

As the ABC source puts it, "Edwards is smart. He's doing this on another network when everyone's going to be watching the Opening Ceremonies" on NBC.

Edwards reportedly tells Woodruff that Elizabeth Edwards and his family first learned of the affair back in 2006. That will cause people to question the sincerity of the wholesome image the couple projected on the campaign trail -- perhaps best demonstrated in this washingtonpost.com video report:

Since he first ran for the Senate in 1998, Edwards has used his compelling and sometimes tragic personal story to frame his political career and project the image of a populist family man. The son of a mill worker, Edwards worked his way up to become a hugely successful trial lawyer. His son Wade, one of four children with wife Elizabeth, was killed in a car accident in 1996, and the parents spoke often of his memory and how it motivated John Edwards to do public service.

In 2004, Elizabeth Edwards revealed that she had been diagnosed with breast cancer. In 2007, the Edwardses announced at a press conference that her cancer had returned.

"We've been married 30 years, known each other longer than that. And we will be in this, every step of the way, together," John Edwards said, as the couple announced that he would continue his plans to run for president in 2008 despite the diagnosis.

But if Edwards is no longer running for president and recent reporting suggests he was not seriously considered to serve as Obama's running mate, does this matter? Marc Ambinder reports that "Elizabeth Edwards has secured a primetime speaking role at the Democratic National Convention; John Edwards, as of this point, does not, and people close to him think he will beg off." Politico reports that "Edwards had told associates he had been promised a prime-time speaking role at the Democratic National Convention later this month, but the revelation of an affair puts his public role in the party in doubt." Be that as it may, does this have any other impact on the Obama campaign besides the fact that Edwards is a vocal supporter of his candidacy? The comments section awaits you.

Capitol Briefing's Ben Pershing contributed to this story.

By Washington Post editors  |  August 8, 2008; 3:10 PM ET
 
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To those who say they don't care about the sex lives of these people I'd like to remind them - she was a paid campaign employee. This has all the makings of either putting someone on the payroll for sex or a more subtle form of sexual harrassment - she received access to the candidate which might have futhered her career in filmmaking for providing sex.

Next - if he was arrogant enough to continually deny his involvement - I'm sure the deep pockets donor paying $7M for two houses had nothing to do with former Senator Edwards (wink wink).

Lastly, former Sen Edwards statements that he never loved her are most shocking. Since he's providing little firther information - I take it he means he enjoys using women purely for his sexual fulfillment. In which caase - I'm sure she wasn't the first he cheated on his wife with and certainly won't probably be the last.

If he was wso blatantly willing to lie about that - had he been elected what else would he have gone in front of a camera and lied to us about - WMD in country X?

Maybe Obama knew and blackmailed him for the endorsement?

Phoney shyster lawyer. I can't wait to see the novel John Grisham makes out of this.

Posted by: think about it | August 11, 2008 2:55 PM | Report abuse

The fact that Edwards made this announcement at all speaks more to the unethical nature of the public than his own. This is not a public issue, and his privacy should be respected, as should anyone elses. This crosses the line, and is not right. My support for Edwards, or lack of, either way, would not matter to me here. I simply don't want to know that kind of nitty gritty about any official. His business. Not ours.

Posted by: Saltydogg | August 11, 2008 12:49 PM | Report abuse

Obamas Scandal is Bigger than Edwards

The implication of the Edwards scandal is that, if ABC News’s top investigative reporter could take Edwards side, without any serious checking of the facts, then other candidates may be concealing scandals and hoping and planning to get away with it. That is certainly the case with Obama, who is far more of a media favorite than Edwards ever was and has, with the help of the influential Associated Press (AP), carefully concealed his relationship with an identified CPUSA member.

Obamas communist connection, which he failed to disclose in his 1995 book, Dreams From My Father, by referring to Davis only as Frank and ignoring his communist affiliation, is a far more serious scandal than an Edwards love child.

As I commented to Michael Savage on the Savage Nation radio program last week, this is the key to understanding Obama because Davis influence over him during his high-school years in Hawaii helps explain why he would later associate with terrorists, communists and socialists.

http://www.aim.org/aim-column/obamas-scandal-is-bigger-than-edwards/

Posted by: Volubrjotr | August 11, 2008 12:42 PM | Report abuse

This jerk doesn't need any more attention. Why does the media follow these jerks around? Aren't Paris, Britney, Lindsay, or Amy misbehaving? Slow news day?

We're not surprised at Edwards' behavior, but we're sick of looking at him and hearing him continue to lie.

Please stop it. First you couldn't let Hellary slink away. Now you can't let Edwards sling away.

Posted by: Vampirella | August 11, 2008 11:55 AM | Report abuse

The only affirmative action candidate running is John Mccain. A man who finished 894 out of 899 in his class but because of who his family was graduated. Then he hid out in flight school while not qualified to be there. His next job was gotten for him by his father, then later his political career was bought for him by his gangster father-in-law and he has been living off the public and his ever wife since. John Mccain if on his own would be little more then a drunk which he has been most of his life and without others just handing him things. He has never personally accomplished a thing in his life. Mccain is not qualified to hold Obama's jockstrap.
John Mccain is the classic affirmative action guy. He is an unaccomplished worthless piece of sh&t.

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You can say whatever you want however, Obama is disrespecting his own father by running away from his MUSLIM heritage the way Obama has.

I mean everytime someone says Obama's middle name, the Obama people go crazy and start screaming who-knows-what.

Obama is overly sensitive - he is not tough enough to be President - seriously guys if he whimpers at the sound of his own middle name there is a problem.

Politically correctness aside - there is some weird attitude problem going on here with this affirmative action guy.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 11, 2008 10:25 AM | Report abuse

You can say whatever you want however, Obama is disrespecting his own father by running away from his MUSLIM heritage the way Obama has.

I mean everytime someone says Obama's middle name, the Obama people go crazy and start screaming who-knows-what.

Obama is overly sensitive - he is not tough enough to be President - seriously guys if he whimpers at the sound of his own middle name there is a problem.

Politically correctness aside - there is some weird attitude problem going on here with this affirmative action guy.


I STAND BY MY ORIGINAL POSTING:

I actually have a problem with OBAMA BECAUSE HE APPEARS TO BE RACIST AGAINST HIS OWN MUSLIM HERITAGE.

First Obama will not admit his MUSLIM SCHOOLING.


Then everytime someone mentions OBAMA'S ACTUAL MIDDLE NAME, OBAMA AND HIS CAMPAIGN GO NUTS. IT IS HIS NAME.

Obama's Campaign has a serious attitude problem with Muslims.


First, I want to see Obama admit his MUSLIM SCHOOLING AND HIS LISTING AT A CATHOLIC SCHOOL AS A MUSLIM.


THEN I would like Obama to embrace his heritage, with some photo-op at the Indonesian Embassy or a trip to a Muslim country which is not at war.


Obama is a Muslim and he should be proud of his heritage. Anything else is completely unacceptable.

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Posted by: Anonymous | August 11, 2008 8:43 AM | Report abuse

If you really need to:
www.factcheck.org
I doubt you do though, only this idiot still believes those old lies.

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I actually have a problem with OBAMA BECAUSE HE APPEARS TO BE RACIST AGAINST HIS OWN MUSLIM HERITAGE.

First Obama will not admit his MUSLIM SCHOOLING.


Then everytime someone mentions OBAMA'S ACTUAL MIDDLE NAME, OBAMA AND HIS CAMPAIGN GO NUTS. IT IS HIS NAME.

Obama's Campaign has a serious attitude problem with Muslims.


First, I want to see Obama admit his MUSLIM SCHOOLING AND HIS LISTING AT A CATHOLIC SCHOOL AS A MUSLIM.


THEN I would like Obama to embrace his heritage, with some photo-op at the Indonesian Embassy or a trip to a Muslim country which is not at war.


Obama is a Muslim and he should be proud of his heritage. Anything else is completely unacceptable.


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Posted by: Anonymous | August 10, 2008 11:38 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | August 11, 2008 12:10 AM | Report abuse

Either you are actually so stupid you believe that stuff or you think everyone else has no ability to use sites like factchecker.org and see it is all false.
That crap comes from false emails that were being circulated back around December 07. Probably by Hillary and her gang. Why don't you at least come up with a new original lies. Those are growing mold.

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The poster at 11:19 is completely off topic - not sure what he is trying to say.

However Obama did attend a MUSLIM SCHOOL.


Obama also was listed at a Catholic School as a MUSLIM. These are facts.


Why would parents bring little Obama to a Catholic school and ENROLL HIM AS A MUSLIM?


MAYBE BECAUSE HE WAS A MUSLIM ???


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Posted by: Anonymous | August 10, 2008 11:30 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | August 11, 2008 12:06 AM | Report abuse

Have any of the Washington Post readers actually gone to Obama's website and read about all the EXPENSIVE GOVERNMENT PROGRAMS OBAMA IS PROPOSING? Where does Obama expect to get all this money?

What a joke.

Seriously folks, Obama is proposing that we plunge this nation into a MASSIVE RECESSION COMPLETE WITH STAG-FLATION.

The younger generation probably does not understand what STAG-FLATION is - which explains why the younger people are going for Obama in such numbers.


HOWEVER I REMEMBER THE STAG-FLATION, THE HORRIBLE ECONOMIC MESS THAT MASSIVE GOVERNMENT PROGRAMS CAUSE AND THE HIGH TAXES THAT HURT EVERYONE, EVEN THE PEOPLE WHO THE MASSIVE PROGRAMS ARE INTENED TO HELP.

OK

It is true, Obama has never run anything in his life, no Business, no Office, no law firm, no Investmant Office NOTHING - Obama's only economic experience is BUYING COCAINE FROM SOMEONE. Seriously how in the world could anyone trust Obama with a budget ???

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Posted by: Anonymous | August 10, 2008 11:52 PM | Report abuse

I actually have a problem with OBAMA BECAUSE HE APPEARS TO BE RACIST AGAINST HIS OWN MUSLIM HERITAGE.

First Obama will not admit his MUSLIM SCHOOLING.


Then everytime someone mentions OBAMA'S ACTUAL MIDDLE NAME, OBAMA AND HIS CAMPAIGN GO NUTS. IT IS HIS NAME.

Obama's Campaign has a serious attitude problem with Muslims.


First, I want to see Obama admit his MUSLIM SCHOOLING AND HIS LISTING AT A CATHOLIC SCHOOL AS A MUSLIM.


THEN I would like Obama to embrace his heritage, with some photo-op at the Indonesian Embassy or a trip to a Muslim country which is not at war.


Obama is a Muslim and he should be proud of his heritage. Anything else is completely unacceptable.


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Posted by: Anonymous | August 10, 2008 11:38 PM | Report abuse

The poster at 11:19 is completely off topic - not sure what he is trying to say.

However Obama did attend a MUSLIM SCHOOL.


Obama also was listed at a Catholic School as a MUSLIM. These are facts.


Why would parents bring little Obama to a Catholic school and ENROLL HIM AS A MUSLIM?


MAYBE BECAUSE HE WAS A MUSLIM ???


.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 10, 2008 11:30 PM | Report abuse

Have any of the Washington Post readers actually gone to Obama's website and read about all the EXPENSIVE GOVERNMENT PROGRAMS OBAMA IS PROPOSING? Where does Obama expect to get all this money?

What a joke.

Seriously folks, Obama is proposing that we plunge this nation into a MASSIVE RECESSION COMPLETE WITH STAG-FLATION.

The younger generation probably does not understand what STAG-FLATION is - which explains why the younger people are going for Obama in such numbers.


HOWEVER I REMEMBER THE STAG-FLATION, THE HORRIBLE ECONOMIC MESS THAT MASSIVE GOVERNMENT PROGRAMS CAUSE AND THE HIGH TAXES THAT HURT EVERYONE, EVEN THE PEOPLE WHO THE MASSIVE PROGRAMS ARE INTENED TO HELP.

OK

It is true, Obama has never run anything in his life, no Business, no Office, no law firm, no Investmant Office NOTHING - Obama's only economic experience is BUYING COCAINE FROM SOMEONE. Seriously how in the world could anyone trust Obama with a budget ???

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Posted by: Anonymous | August 10, 2008 11:26 PM | Report abuse

Since from the start they have called him a Muslim, exentuate his middle name is order to make a mental connection to terrorists. On air personalities refer to him as "exotic". Ad to that lies by the day to scare people into not trusting him. "TODAY" Mccain (a no good piece of sh&t in my book ) is starting a smear campaign to try to connect Obama to Russia in an attempt to paint him as a Communist now I guess. And we still have a few months left. I would say Obama was pretty much telling the truth to his supporters and sure enough he was right.

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Everyone is still talking about how McCain will not tolerate Obama playing the Race Card like the Clintons did.

This is a joke.

Obama is almost attempting to start a race war - "They are going to try to make you afraid of me" - YEA AFRAID OF YOUR HIGH TAX POLICIES, AFRAID OF YOUR HIGH SPENDING ON ALL THE PROGRAMS LISTED ON OBAMA'S WEBSITE - THE MAN HAS NO SENSE OF A BUDGET.


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Posted by: Anonymous | August 10, 2008 11:07 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | August 10, 2008 11:19 PM | Report abuse

Obama can take his RACE CARD and leave.

We do not like that kind of 'OLD POLITICS' around here.


For someone who has claimed in the past to be post-racial, Obama's actions have made his claims a complete joke. Obama please go back to Hyde Park and leave this nation in peace with LOW TAXES AND A STRONG NATIONAL SECURITY.

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Posted by: Anonymous | August 10, 2008 11:13 PM | Report abuse

Everyone is still talking about how McCain will not tolerate Obama playing the Race Card like the Clintons did.

This is a joke.

Obama is almost attempting to start a race war - "They are going to try to make you afraid of me" - YEA AFRAID OF YOUR HIGH TAX POLICIES, AFRAID OF YOUR HIGH SPENDING ON ALL THE PROGRAMS LISTED ON OBAMA'S WEBSITE - THE MAN HAS NO SENSE OF A BUDGET.


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Posted by: Anonymous | August 10, 2008 11:07 PM | Report abuse

I think that was like two weeks ago or maybe three. You are going to have to update your pasting. Actually the big story was Mccains involvement in the job killing deal regarding DHL. Good going John Mccain you lost over 8000 jobs for hard working people in Ohio and then lied to their faces when asked about it.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/08/08/plouffe-mccains-dhl-deal_n_117790.html

No, maybe the story of the week was Mccain talking to vet's in Vegas and afterwards when asked they could only find 1 in 14 who said they supported. I think Mccain is actually delusional. They weren't even applauding him, doesn't he get the hint what they were saying? WE DON'T LIKE YOU JOHN MCCAIN.

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The major issue of the week has been the McCain people stating clearly that Obama has been playing the RACE CARD during this year's Campaigns - from the South Carolina primary onward to this summer when Obama keeps on attempting to charge that the Republicans are "going to make people afraid of him."

Posted by: 37th&OStreet | August 10, 2008 9:28 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | August 10, 2008 11:01 PM | Report abuse

The major issue of the week has been the McCain people stating clearly that Obama has been playing the RACE CARD during this year's Campaigns - from the South Carolina primary onward to this summer when Obama keeps on attempting to charge that the Republicans are "going to make people afraid of him."


NOT that the Republicans have said or done anything racist yet, HOWEVER OBAMA KEEPS ON SAYING THAT THE REPUBLICANS ARE GOING TO BE RACISTS SOON.


Obama's campaign theme now is: YOU ARE A RACIST UNTIL YOU VOTE FOR OBAMA.


In response we post these Video Clips from all the major news FOX MSNBC CNN netwoks:


CLIPS OF OBAMA PLAYING THE RACE CARD THIS YEAR IN SOUTH CAROLINA: http://tinyurl.com/6gcstl


This is absolutely incredibly AMAZING.


This short Video clip includes THE LATE TIM RUSSERT OF NBC NEWS directly calling out Obama on Obama's Playing of the RACE CARD DURING OBAMA'S CAMPAIGNING IN SOUTH CAROLINA THIS YEAR in the Primary Campaign - in a Divisive and Extremely Shameful and Negative Manner.

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Posted by: 37th&OStreet | August 10, 2008 9:28 PM | Report abuse

personally thingk


ebony flash be hitting the crack too hard.

Posted by: I | August 10, 2008 4:01 PM | Report abuse

Loose "LIPS"

suck the life out of your tax dollars and deposit into their private offshore accounts....

while they feed you the line that they are fighting a


"war" that they staged....

which would more rightly becalled colonial enforcement...


only thing is the AMERICAN PEOPLE are being fed a snow job while the


CONTROLLED MEDIA sit by and watch.....how many on the Washingtonpost team have the nads to


call an Illegal INVASION and SACKING OF A SOVEREIGN NATION _that_

no one???? then I guess they're either all terminally stupid , frightened or paid off....


which is it?????


no connection in IRAQ with "terrorism" at all....


unless you mean the investment that SAUDIS did initially to fund attacks on shia....

you mind dead and morally defunct pretenders to the political throne need to catch up with the facts.....


ba ba man don't know the facts


and Mc Slime hides them.

Posted by: remember | August 10, 2008 3:47 PM | Report abuse

Michael Chertoff????


he's an obstructor of justice....for the bush family...he kept you from finding out who funded 9/11.....SEARCH on GREEN QUEST.....your DHS head goes down on the shruba nd likes the taste.....


Who is Mike McConnel he's good friends with felons and awards them contracts after they use their influence to get him the job as Director of National Intelligence....Adm Poindexter an IRAN CONTRA FELON pardoned by George "Lips" Bushes father was directed to receive contracts for data mining and eavesdropping by his old buddy Mike McConnel....they both also suck off the shrub...


CONSPIRACY TO COMMIT FRAUD, THEFT and TREASON.....in real time...


get a clue little runions...


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Posted by: who is | August 10, 2008 3:38 PM | Report abuse

What's annoying here, is that no one seems to understand that the bush administration and the "right wingers," don't give a flying bat's hind end about issues, they _use_ them as cattle prods to control the sheeple.


George W. is a known well shall we say friend to the non heterosexual as an intimate partner...you can verify that by searching on his name and the title "Lips," but he and his used homosexuality as an issue to move things, cause a reaction amongst the emotionally younger in mind voters in order to sway an electoral populance..........


bush doesn't have a moral stance, I doubt that he's had a moral thought....but you know that.


Do yourselves a favor and learn the difference between having a position and "using others positions" as an emotional whip.

DEMAGOGUREY is a live and well and being used as a political tool by former CIA officers embedded in the political systems aka the REPUBLICAN PARTY....although they are EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN TO INTERFERE IN THE UNITED STATES POLITICAL SYSTEM....


they won an election for Ronald RAYGUN


SEARCH ON: Jimmy Carter, Paris, Iran Contra, Russian, October Surprise, Robert M. Gates, George H.W. Bush, William Casey....it's called treason....


and speaking of treason the whitehouse is involved in money laundering DRUG MONEY FROM AFGHANISTAN through foreign partners who open banks or buy banks in the U.S. with that drug money...


where'd all that "loose money" come from during the SUB PRIME LENDING


fiasco...it was free money to begin with....off record


SEE: Gary Webb, Parry, George H.W. Bush, cocaine, letter of understanding...


take back your country from the parasites that denigrate social services as the


CORPORATOCRACY receives welfare payments on your dime and you can't find a job to save your homes....


take them downhard.


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Posted by: Anonymous | August 10, 2008 3:32 PM | Report abuse

You got to hand to to the Republicans! Once again, John McCain whipped John Edwards, by McCain being the first to cheat on his wife. Those Republicans sure are the "immoral trendsetters." Since McCain lied and cheated on his wife, what's to stop him from lying and cheating on his country?

Posted by: Michael P | August 10, 2008 1:55 PM | Report abuse

Elizabeth Edwards posted a diary entry on the Daily Kos which reads in Part:
"John has spoken in a long on-camera interview I hope you watch. Admitting one's mistakes is a hard thing for anyone to do, and I am proud of the courage John showed by his honesty in the face of shame."
The full entry is at http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/8/8/193337/7354/473/564989

The very public request for privacy accompanied by the hope that you will watch the interview is appalling when penned by his wife.
John and Elizabeth, I have been betrayed by experts. You are not experts. Go away. It's over.
Polonius: My honourable lord, I will most humbly take
my leave of you.
Hamlet: You cannot, sir, take from me anything that I will more
willingly part...

Posted by: emptyk | August 10, 2008 10:26 AM | Report abuse

I don't mind being harassed -- it's my job -- besides, I get "bonus points" for every post with my name on, whether I write it or not. Just be sure to spell my name correctly.

Posted by: JakeD | August 10, 2008 9:55 AM | Report abuse

THE MECHANICS OF PERSONAL DESTRUCTION: EXPOSE
EXTRA-LEGAL TARGETING OF AMERICANS BY GOVT-SUPPORTED 'VIGILANTE INJUSTICE' SQUADS


• Congress: probe unlawful targeting of American citizens by vigilantes hiding behind government-funded volunteer programs

• Due process denied, the Constitution discarded by "extra-legal control mechanism" resembling KKK, Stasi and Gestapo

• Cause of the crisis in the mortgage and credit markets?

• When will Chertoff, McConnell, Mukasey, Mueller, Gates and Paulson take action?


A virulent form of "domestic terrorism" is destroying the rule of law in America.

Victims of so-called organized "gang stalking" or "community stalking" charge that the rule of law has broken down nationwide at the hands of state-supported vigilantes -- operating under the cover of citizen "volunteer" programs and various "service" corps.

Organized groups of private citizens, funded by elements of government at multiple levels, are the backbone of an "extra legal" control mechanism that its victims say is denying citizens their constitutional right of due process under the law. Victims of this extra-legal network maintain that these vigilantes are functioning outside the legal system as judge, jury and executioner -- meting out various forms of harassment and abuse. Victims call it "domestic terrorism" and they allege that their human rights are being violated.

Those who have been targeted by these groups say this vigilante militia is patrolling the streets, stalking and harassing, inflicting physical harm upon people who have been targeted by this extra-legal control mechanism. Some victims have moved to other cities and towns to escape the persecution -- but they say the vigilantism recurs in their new locale.

"It appears to be a nationwide network that attracts right-wing extremists as well as law and order types, utility and municipal workers, and people connected to public safety such as firefighters, police auxiliaries, retired police and military officers, and even their family members," says one victim, who says he has been "gang-stalked" for several years. "I doubt it could exist without some people in positions of power looking the other way."

Even some regular, uniformed police are reported to have been intimidated by this network of extra-legal control, using volunteer citizens as the "street muscle."

Victims say that in addition to being physically harassed, their property is being vandalized; their privacy is being invaded; their mail is intercepted, financial accounts and billing statements altered, family finances decimated; and their physical well-being has been compromised using hi-tech instruments such as "directed energy weapons" that emit silent bursts of concentrated radiation -- microwaves, x-rays, gamma rays, even sonic frequencies -- that can disable, main, induce illness or even kill.

"This is torture that's happening right here, in American cities and towns," says one alleged victim. "But it's like pre- World War II Germany; people refuse to believe that such abuses could happen in a civilized society. But it is happening. And I'm convinced that local and federal authorities not only have knowledge of this extra-legal targeting, but are providing funding and direction.

"I know the FBI knows about it, because I've been down there several times over the past two years to report it." He says he knows of no formal investigation, despite his offers to cooperate.

"I'm not saying they know of the worst abuses, such as using microwaves on targeted persons to degrade their health and make it impossible for them to earn a living. But they must know that these citizen patrols are doing a lot more than just cruising around the neighborhood. "

Citizens who have reported abuses say their complaints are typically ignored -- or that authorities insinuate that their claims are figments of their imagination, or are a manifestation of a mental illness such as paranoia.

"That appears to be part of the M-O," says one victim. "You haven't done anything wrong, so they can't charge you with a crime. So they attempt to make it look like you're crazy. That's how they marginalize people who don't fit in with their world view."

This victim believes the vigilante network is a convenient way for those in power to dispense with persons they simply don't like, or whose political or social views do not hew to what they regard as the established order.

Victims also believe that a network of government programs and agencies works in tandem with the extra-legal vigilante system to destroy their financial security. They allege that the crisis in the mortgage and credit markets may have been worsened by these programs, which they say are sapping the financial well-being of individuals and families without benefit of the right of due process.

Some victims wonder whether these extra-legal programs didn't create those financial crises in the first place. "We haven't had these kind of widespread financial woes for sixty years," a gang-stalking victim said. "You have to wonder if these programs weren't a blueprint for an ideologically-motivated purge."

Some of the agencies looking into the mortgage and credit market problems may have had long-standing knowledge of these programs, according to victims, who are calling on Congress to investigate.

"The issue of state-supported vigilantism and extra-legal control represents an assault on our judicial system that makes Watergate look like the third-rate burglary that it started out to be," says one gang-stalking victim. "Since government agencies appear to be involved in funding these programs, it's up to Congress to investigate, to use its powers of oversight to ensure that democracy and the rule of law prevails -- and not the law of the jungle."

President Clinton often talked about "the politics of personal destruction." Hillary Clinton warned against the "vast right-wing conspiracy," a concern she reaffirmed, albeit in milder descriptive language, in her autobiography, "Living History."

The network of programs and policies that are allegedly circumventing the judicial system, violating constitutional rights and meting out vigilante justice, might collectively be termed the MECHANICS of personal destruction.

I wonder aloud whether Bill and Hillary Clinton weren't trying to warn the rest of us about an evil that even the power of the presidency could not keep in check.

The entire electoral process is being marginalized, relegated to little more than window dressing, as true power is stolen away by a neo-fascist element that has found a way to seize the reins of power and authority. It is analogous to what John Dean called "a cancer" -- not just on the presidency, but on the entire body politic.

Amazing as it sounds, this powerful apparatus appears to exist under the radar of most elected members of Congress. Those who should know, perhaps they believe such programs exist to target "terrorists," so-called enemies of the state. They naively refuse to believe that these programs, over time, appear to have morphed into a vast system of extra-legal vigilante control not unlike the East German Stasi, the KKK of the old South, the Gestapo of the Nazi Third Reich -- and that these programs effectively deny innocent American citizens their constitutional rights.

This appears to be nothing less than neo-fascism under the guise of "national security" and "keeping America safe." And liberals and progressives, who arguably are represented among the targets of these programs, naively insist that "it can't happen here." Only the Libertarians seem to perceive the threat.

Whoever is elected the next president will inherit these programs. That person, if he learns of such programs, is likely to be told of their necessity and propriety -- that such an extra-legal control mechanism, employing citizen vigilantes and extra-legal programs targeting financial resources, can co-exist with democracy.

In fact, this extra-legal control mechanism is destroying our democracy; much damage already has been done. Individuals and families are being slowly destroyed. Some call it a "silent holocaust" due to its clandestine nature and the use of silent, invisible "directed energy" technology.

Below are links to the articles I've written about this imminent danger to our constitutional democracy. I urge lawmakers and congressional committee staffers to do some research, and start asking some tough questions, starting with the Department of Homeland Security:

"Mr. Chertoff, are you aware that many Americans believe they have been the victims of so-called community or gang stalking, possibly perpetrated by persons equipped and trained by federally funded volunteer programs under your charge? Have you heard of such reports, and are you investigating to ensure that these programs and their resources are not being misused?"

That would be a good place to start. I believe it goes much broader and deeper; but the curative process must begin before more Americans are seriously damaged by this descent from the rule of law to the nihilist rule of the jungle.

A FINAL NOTE: My communications and my blog page are subject to persistent disruption and tampering by unknown hackers. I would appreciate it if "The Fix" readers would forward the links below to people you know at the ALCU.org, CCRjustice.org, or any other group that could help. I can't do this alone; and I have put myself at some risk already.


http://www.nowpublic.com/world/get-political-vic-livingston-opinion-expose-state-supported-vigilante-squads-doing-domestic-terrorism
http://www.nowpublic.com/world/zap-have-you-been-targeted-directed-energy-weapon-victims-organized-gang-stalking-say-its-happening-usa-1
OR search www.nowpublic.com/scrivener


Posted by: scrivener | August 10, 2008 4:20 AM | Report abuse

Over the next few months you will read things on blogs hear things on the news or get emails telling you a lot of different things about the candidates. I have a candidate I support but that is not important to this post. Anything you read or hear please check out. One of the best is http://factcheck.org Take nothing either candidate says or their surrogates say as gospel. In this day and age there is no longer a reason to have to take anything at face value. Old time politics is geared to the ignorant, but only a politician who doesn't get todays technology would be foolish enough to believe they can just plain lie and fool people anymore. It's a new day and we are the ones in charge of our futures and armed with truth and knowledge if we choose to seek it out.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 10, 2008 1:13 AM | Report abuse

EXTRA-LEGAL TARGETING OF AMERICAN CITIZENS
BY RUTHLESS CIVILIAN 'VIGILANTE SQUADS':
YOUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK?

http://www.nowpublic.com/world/get-political-vic-livingston-opinion-expose-state-supported-vigilante-squads-doing-domestic-terrorism

Posted by: "It can't happen here" - or can it? | August 10, 2008 12:33 AM | Report abuse

37th&OStreet wrote:
The people on this blog who are harassing JakeD are PAID Obama staffers who do shifts to blog - they are dragging down the discourse in this country - they are also hostile to First Amendment Rights.
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You know what else? The 75,000+Obama audience in Portland, the 200,000+ audience in Berlin, and all the donors giving Obama $52 million a month are ALSO paid Obama staffers!! You have revealed the conspiracy, 37th!

Posted by: Sunshine | August 10, 2008 12:27 AM | Report abuse

If I were a democrat I would be thrilled with the relevation. If Obama doesn't win, who is to say that Edwards wouldn't be the nominee the next time around? And then imagine the news of his loved child coming out then? It's newsworthy because at one time, he was being considered for a VP position and that could've seriously cost Obama. So if I were a democrat, I'd be glad that his "liason" was discovered.

For what it is worth, in no way do I believe that he confessed to Elizabeth in 2006. I believe she probably suspected but didn't want to believe it. I think she is playing politics.

And if she isn't, people should be pissed at her to for not giving two s**ts about the party and continue with the ruse to get her husband elected. But it's clearly not what happened and she was in the dark while he was in the dark playing footsie in the hotel with his mistress.

Posted by: sushi | August 10, 2008 12:02 AM | Report abuse

blind and ignorant
37th & O Street
he hasn't a clue

Posted by: the hai-kook | August 9, 2008 11:39 PM | Report abuse

"For conservatives - heads would roll. That is how it should be. Posted by: Texas Lady | August 8, 2008 4:04 PM "

OK, we have ruled out John McCain, so who ARE you conservatives going to vote for? Bob Barr's record as a married man isn't anything to be proud of either, you know.

Posted by: ceflynline@msn.com | August 9, 2008 8:32 PM | Report abuse

The people on this blog who are harassing JakeD are PAID Obama staffers who do shifts to blog - they are dragging down the discourse in this country - they are also hostile to First Amendment Rights.

OK

These people are hostile to our most basic Constitutional Freedoms - Freedom of Speech - instead of encouraging an airing of a wide range of views the Obama Campaign seeks to harass those who Speak.

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Posted by: 37th&OStreet | August 9, 2008 5:28 PM | Report abuse

The people on this blog who are harassing JakeD are PAID Obama staffers who do shifts to blog - they are dragging down the discourse in this country - they are also hostile to First Amendment Rights.

OK

These people are hostile to our most basic Constitutional Freedoms - Freedom of Speech - instead of encouraging an airing of a wide range of views the Obama Campaign seeks to harass those who Speak.

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Posted by: 37th&OStreet | August 9, 2008 5:24 PM | Report abuse

OK, all you Independents who would never vote for a man who would cheat on his wife, especially when she was under treatment for cancer, let's hear it for how you will never vote for Edwards.

He, of course, isn't actually running for anything.

How about McCain? What, he gets a pass because Republicans are expected to behave that way. (You want the list, lots of people will be happy to give to to you.)

Can you define hypocrisy?

Posted by: ceflynline@msn.com | August 9, 2008 5:14 PM | Report abuse

Face it, this means one of two things:
1 John Edwards is now, as a Democrat, badly tainted and can, in good conscience go back to being a rich, and getting richer, lawyer. Since were he to be offered as an appointment in any Obama administration the scandalized Republicans would pitch a (word the censor won't pass even though it really has no offensive connotation in context, merely being onomatopoeia for complaint)about how low the Democrats can go in their appointments. (we have standards, after all, for Deomcrats...)

2: After five months of McCain's people trying to run against Barack Obama based on this scandal having to do entirely with Edwards, JE will be totally inoculated against said complaints in item one, and therefore available for any office at all, Attorney General in particular.

Keep up the ranting, McSame people, it only makes it easier on BHO when he gets the Oval Office.

Posted by: ceflynline@msn.com | August 9, 2008 5:06 PM | Report abuse

"promoted the double voting craziness in Texas"

Um, yeah. Is the new argument that Obama invented the two tiered process? Nah, Texas has been doing this for a while. Like the 1970s.

And remember, the primary counts double of the caucus. The thing is that Clinton only won the primary by 3.5% to gain four net delegates, but Obama crushed her in the caucuses by 12% to gain eleven net delegates.

Besides, this was March. The primaries had been decided in February when Obama took those ten consecutive states.

Yeah, Leon, you've lied before and you're lying here. I guess that makes you a liar.

Posted by: DDAWD | August 9, 2008 3:51 PM | Report abuse

I can not believe there is idiots out there that want to take the Edwards problems and relate them to Obama or Clinton. I believe this is a replay of John mcSeniles first marriage, Oh wait he divorced he disabled wife and left her and his three children for his very rich mistress.And to those who say, I am not a Christian so I can judge,HELL is full of your kind, so keep on waiting for that long black train.Obama 08
Connie from Indiana

Posted by: Anonymous | August 9, 2008 2:42 PM | Report abuse

"Edwards out of the race and HRC wins the otherwise split middle and lower middle class/nonurban vote in Iowa. Obama comes in 2nd- loses NH and the race is over. HRC skips Iowa, Edwards wins Iowa, no money for NH, finishes 3rd, Nevada as well- race over. Only the specific way thing went could lead to Obama having a delegate victort- which is why he worked against the revote in Florida and Michigan and promoted the double voting craziness in Texas (he wins as many delegates despite losing by over 100,000 votes)"

Sigh. You can lead the horse to water, but you can't make them drink.

Again, you have provided some fantasy rendering of what happened in Iowa, which runs wildly contrary to what did happen. I thought that Clinton was the candidate for the lower/middle-class working/rural voter, but now the constituency that Clinton touted in IN, OH, and PA wasn't really hers? You can't have it both ways. I won't even bother with your MI/FL craziness, and as for your TX lunacy, it merely underscores the Clinton inability to field a functional, competent, coherent campaign that understands the process.

Again - Edwards had zero impact on Iowa, save for putting Hillary in a distant third instead of a distant second.

Posted by: bondjedi | August 9, 2008 1:45 PM | Report abuse

I'm not a christian, I can judge.
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Let the one who is without sin be the first to cast the stone!!!

Posted by: P3epe | August 9, 2008 12:26 PM | Report abuse

What this Edwards affair once again proves is the MSM's double standard. This story was out there for over 2 months with hardly a peep from any of them. If Edwards were a Republican this would have been headline news for months and until right up to the elections, with the MSM camped out front of his house. No rational person could possibly still doubt that the Main Stream Media is nothing more than the Democratic Party's propaganda arm.

Posted by: madhatter | August 9, 2008 12:26 PM | Report abuse

This is affair of John Edwards has significance both privately and publicly.

Bill Clinton has set the gold standard for which future presidential candidates and presidents will be judged when it comes to these types of scandals.

The sheer hypocrisy and dishonesty that Edwards has portrayed during this campaign season will eliminate the ability to run for any public office in the future.

Posted by: Obama-Junkie | August 9, 2008 11:41 AM | Report abuse

Some pervert is trying to sell their perverted magazine. Go do yourself Enquirer !!

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Get ready America..Obama's dirt will be out soon. He hauled-tailed to Hwaii to duck the media on this Edwards issue. Like Edwards, Obama is an egomaniac. anyway, the truth about Obama and the murder of his church's choir director my someday be told. Larry Sinclair may be a shady person but he was friends with Donald Young whose murder is still unsolved in the city if Chicago. Somebody knows something!!But they ain't telling. The MSM has really let Obama off the hook all the way from the start of the primaries to this day. Let's see...Rezko and the house/land deal...Rev. Wright...Ayers...Michelle....and the list goes on and on. Matbe we need the Enquirer to become our primary national news media. At least they are not afraid to investigate and go after the truth!
Posted by: Ebonyflash | August 9, 2008 1:31 AM

Posted by: Anonymous | August 9, 2008 11:10 AM | Report abuse

Let the one who is without sin be the first to cast the stone!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | August 9, 2008 10:58 AM | Report abuse

He's a public figure, and since all of these politicians go on and on an ON about family values and stuff, that makes it everyone's business.

They are to be judged and held to a higher standard.

What Edwards did makes him a piece of garbage.

Posted by: P3epe | August 9, 2008 10:52 AM | Report abuse

Sex is universal. Would we want a president who was not interested in sex? Better love than war.

But...since it is unacceptable in America to have sex outside of marriage...every campaign needs a "siren-dectector", someone who can identify and stop potential trouble. A smart candidate, and smart campaign managers, know that there are people who get satisfaction from being successful in attracting/seducing the candidate. Someone around Edwards should have seen the trouble coming and stopped it. But maybe that person was "smitten" too.

Posted by: KyElizabeth | August 9, 2008 9:56 AM | Report abuse

This is the Edwards' problem, not ours. STOP REPORTING ON IT- I don't care!

Posted by: tkinnama | August 9, 2008 9:36 AM | Report abuse

The worst kept secret ever in NC is that John Edwards has never been able to keep "Little John" behind the zipper. In this age of instant world-wide media, how can anyone be surprised with this? Rielle Hunter, or whatever name she's now using, was not Edwards' first bimbo, nor will she be his last. She's just the first to erupt. This is just the beginning...$15,000 per month to two different people leaves a wide trail, folks...Pinch your nose and follow the money. Should make for an interesting convention!

Posted by: gmundenat | August 9, 2008 5:36 AM | Report abuse

WaPo's fascination with the extra-marital affairs of a non-candidate for any public office is a tad bit ironic, donchathink, strikes me as extraordinarily ironic when the Washington media establishment has chosen to be so gosh-darn dumb on the topic of (GOP presumptive presidential nominee) John McCain's exceptionally well-documented marital affairs?

Ironic, indeed. (Is it bias or just plain old fashioned professional malfeasance?)

Posted by: Carmen Cameron | August 9, 2008 5:03 AM | Report abuse

CNN's coverage of this subject was obsessive tonight. This is an example of why this country continues to have so many problems, which are largely ignored by most in the media.

The neo-cons seem have taken over "The Washington Post" with their cold war rant toward Russia and China, while being one of the cheerleaders for the invasion of a country, Iraq, half way around the world, that was no threat to the United States nor any of its neighbors.

They also keep giving McCain and the Republicans essentially a pass, despite all the utter nonsense coming from them. As two of Bill Moyer's guests, one was Bob Herbert , columnist for "The New York Times," said on his show televised tonight, the Republicans keep throwing all these lies out, such as oil drilling will significantly lower gas prices, tricke down tax cuts for the rich will help most Americans, etc,. without most persons in the media pointing out these are fabrications.

Posted by: Independent | August 9, 2008 3:50 AM | Report abuse

There is no Obama dirt. A few innuendoes and meaningless connections that lead no where because there is no where to go. Do you in your wildest dreams think if there was ANYTHING Hillary would not have found it. She had her henchmen working day and night and there is nothing. The closer the election gets and the fact that before it was Hillary and now the filth machine of Mccain can't do anything but make up lies about the man there is nothing. They are as good as it gets when it comes to this kind of stuff. Mccain is in effect electing Obama by going after him instead of campaigning on a platform of reasons to vote for John Mccain. By November Mccain will have settled independents minds as to who is the best candidate. He will have vetted Obama and they will feel safe voting for Obama. Mccain offers nothing, that is just a fact and for every lie they make up about Obama each day a truth comes out about Mccain and they are really piling up. todays Mccain scandal
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/08/08/plouffe-mccains-dhl-deal_n_117790.html

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Get ready America..Obama's dirt will be out soon. He hauled-tailed to Hwaii to duck the media on this Edwards issue. Like Edwards, Obama is an egomaniac. anyway, the truth about Obama and the murder of his church's choir director my someday be told. Larry Sinclair may be a shady person but he was friends with Donald Young whose murder is still unsolved in the city if Chicago. Somebody knows something!!But they ain't telling. The MSM has really let Obama off the hook all the way from the start of the primaries to this day. Let's see...Rezko and the house/land deal...Rev. Wright...Ayers...Michelle....and the list goes on and on. Matbe we need the Enquirer to become our primary national news media. At least they are not afraid to investigate and go after the truth!
Posted by: Ebonyflash | August 9, 2008 1:31 AM

Posted by: Anonymous | August 9, 2008 1:48 AM

Posted by: Anonymous | August 9, 2008 3:36 AM | Report abuse

Obama/Edwards!

And here’s the bumper sticker they should have the guts to print:

Obama/Edwards
Real? Real!

Edwards? I am speaking of Elizabeth, not John. Elizabeth is real. John, it turns out, is not real. He is...Rielle. Add Elizabeth to the ticket and John McCain is toast, regardless of his VP choice.

http://web.mac.com/jcantwell1/Blog/Joe_Cantwells_Blog/Entries/2008/8/8_Obama_Edwards!.html

Posted by: Joe Cantwell | August 9, 2008 2:42 AM | Report abuse

HaHa, Nice joke Obama mischief maker!

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Get ready America..Obama's dirt will be out soon. He hauled-tailed to Hwaii to duck the media on this Edwards issue. Like Edwards, Obama is an egomaniac. anyway, the truth about Obama and the murder of his church's choir director my someday be told. Larry Sinclair may be a shady person but he was friends with Donald Young whose murder is still unsolved in the city if Chicago. Somebody knows something!!But they ain't telling. The MSM has really let Obama off the hook all the way from the start of the primaries to this day. Let's see...Rezko and the house/land deal...Rev. Wright...Ayers...Michelle....and the list goes on and on. Matbe we need the Enquirer to become our primary national news media. At least they are not afraid to investigate and go after the truth!
Posted by: Ebonyflash | August 9, 2008 1:31 AM

Posted by: Anonymous | August 9, 2008 1:48 AM | Report abuse

Get ready America..Obama's dirt will be out soon. He hauled-tailed to Hwaii to duck the media on this Edwards issue. Like Edwards, Obama is an egomaniac. anyway, the truth about Obama and the murder of his church's choir director my someday be told. Larry Sinclair may be a shady person but he was friends with Donald Young whose murder is still unsolved in the city if Chicago. Somebody knows something!!But they ain't telling. The MSM has really let Obama off the hook all the way from the start of the primaries to this day. Let's see...Rezko and the house/land deal...Rev. Wright...Ayers...Michelle....and the list goes on and on. Matbe we need the Enquirer to become our primary national news media. At least they are not afraid to investigate and go after the truth!

Posted by: Ebonyflash | August 9, 2008 1:31 AM | Report abuse

Leon:

Clinton lied under oath. He committed perjury. The president of the United States.

The president has a higher duty than the rest of us to uphold the law. Civil suit or criminal suit.

I don't see why you admire him. He claims to be for the little people, as long as they don't get in his way like Paula Jones did.
That he had relations with Lewinsky, I don't care about.

You wouldn't justify this if he were a republican. But he's Bill Clinton, he gets a pass on everything.

Edwards is a private citizen holding no public office. His affairs are his business.

Posted by: Penmanship | August 9, 2008 1:08 AM | Report abuse

Leon:

$149 million? I thought it was closer to $40 million?

Posted by: JakeD | August 9, 2008 1:06 AM | Report abuse

Get ready America because Obama's dirt will be exposed next!! The MSM hid fro the Edwards story like little chickens. The Enquirer has now become the true source of unbiased investigative journalism in the USA. Obama knows who killed the Trinity Church choir director in Dec. 2007 (a gay man named Donald Young)...Rev. Wright knows too I bet. The MSM will not touch it!! Larry Sinclair may be shady but he was friends with Young whose murdered is still a cold case/unresolved murdered in the city of Chicago. Come on...somebody knows something! Obama is the "new slim shady" but like John Edwards the truth will come out sooner or later...better sooner tha later for America's sake.

Posted by: Ebonyflash | August 9, 2008 1:03 AM | Report abuse

Could all media leave this man and his wife alone! Mrs. Edwards is sick. If she is too stressed out, she could die. Please leave them alone! Americans are already aware Sen. Edwards cheated on his wife. No need to go further with this news about the Edwards.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 9, 2008 12:57 AM | Report abuse

He is lying when he says he told his wife about it in 2006. She is a smart woman and would never have gone along with him running for president. No rational person would believe this would not come out. Hell there is a money trail where they were paying the woman $15,000 a month. Elizabeth is to smart to have let this happen. No way did she know, not back then anyway and not before the presidential bid.
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Deliberate betrayal and deception. Once these are on the table, can we trust anything John Edwards claims to offer us? His devotion to the public, his willingness to put the interests of working-class people before those of others who can give him more? Do we believe in his commitment to the people any more, when he can't even keep his commitments to his wife?

How sad for Elizabeth, how sad for those who hoped and believed in him.
Posted by: farhorizons | August 8, 2008 11:53 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | August 9, 2008 12:23 AM | Report abuse

Deliberate betrayal and deception. Once these are on the table, can we trust anything John Edwards claims to offer us? His devotion to the public, his willingness to put the interests of working-class people before those of others who can give him more? Do we believe in his commitment to the people any more, when he can't even keep his commitments to his wife?

How sad for Elizabeth, how sad for those who hoped and believed in him.

Posted by: farhorizons | August 8, 2008 11:53 PM | Report abuse

The shame of it is that the stupid affair takes away one of our more interesting leaders, who would have otherwise made a very good attorney general- perhaps HRC will be AG awaiting a SC spot to open.

Leon

Posted by: Anonymous | August 8, 2008 11:33 PM | Report abuse

EXTRA-LEGAL TARGETING OF AMERICAN CITIZENS
BY RUTHLESS CIVILIAN 'VIGILANTE SQUADS':
YOUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK?

http://www.nowpublic.com/world/get-political-vic-livingston-opinion-expose-state-supported-vigilante-squads-doing-domestic-terrorism

Posted by: It can't happen here - can it? | August 8, 2008 11:33 PM | Report abuse

Penmanship,

Try reading a little.
He lied under oath in a civil trial (the supreme court had just ruled that a president could face a civil trial in order to allow this case to occur) and the question was irrelevant to Paula Jones's case- it was a set-up to allow for the impeachment hearings since 149 million dollars had turned up nothing else for Kenneth Starr. Perhaps we can all move past whether he got sucked off by an intern as our current president has broken several articles of the constitution, the bill or rights, and a good amount of the laws made by congress- maybe that is more important...or you can just spend your time hating the Clintions- I guess whatever works for you. Running against them worked for Barak, who is the least qualified candidate in terms of resume for this whole century- so I guess it should work for you as well.

Leon

Posted by: Anonymous | August 8, 2008 11:31 PM | Report abuse

BondJedi- wrong. Edwards out of the race and HRC wins the otherwise split middle and lower middle class/nonurban vote in Iowa. Obama comes in 2nd- loses NH and the race is over. HRC skips Iowa, Edwards wins Iowa, no money for NH, finishes 3rd, Nevada as well- race over. Only the specific way thing went could lead to Obama having a delegate victort- which is why he worked against the revote in Florida and Michigan and promoted the double voting craziness in Texas (he wins as many delegates despite losing by over 100,000 votes)

Leon

Posted by: Anonymous | August 8, 2008 11:22 PM | Report abuse


I always got the impression Mccain may have liked his wife whacked out all the time. It keep her out of his hair and not knowing anything that was going on. He could have cared less if she died of an overdose. I have no doubt he secretly wished for it.

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I never liked Edwards but next to Mccain he is a saint. Mccain was cheating on his wife while she was home dying of drugs and he could care less. It took her family to step in and do an intervention. Lets not even bother what he did to his first wife. Mccain is a total piece of sh&t.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 8, 2008 10:43 PM | Report abuse

I never liked Edwards but next to Mccain he is a saint. Mccain was cheating on his wife while she was home dying of drugs and he could care less. It took her family to step in and do an intervention. Lets not even bother what he did to his first wife. Mccain is a total piece of sh&t.

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YES WE CAN!*

*Cheat on our dying spouses and lie about it to the public.

Posted by: P3epe | August 8, 2008 10:21 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | August 8, 2008 10:40 PM | Report abuse

I would concede that Hillary would have come in a (distant) second were Edwards not there.

But then, Hillary shouldn't have been there in the first place, and her not showing up would not have been some out-of-the-box strategy. Mike Henry said don't go, and McCain didn't bother either. Hell, Bubba didn't go in '92, lost in NH, and still got the nomination.

In retrospect, when we have some distance, the adults will take a look at the Dem 2008 race and realize that Obama really did kick the s**t out of the Clintons, and any illusion of closeness was just that - sleight of hand. The only reason to continue watching Bill and Hill is to see what sort of chicanery they'll use in an attempt to pull the rug from under Obama.

Posted by: bondjedi | August 8, 2008 10:33 PM | Report abuse

Edwards a rich man, I hope his supporters get a class action suit against him. He had them working and contributing while all the time knowing he had this in his past and now we find out everybody knew it, there was no way it was not going to come out. He was never going to be a presidential candidate and he must have known it himself. He can't be that delusional. He literally committed a fraud on his supporters.

I am a Demarcate by the way, but right is right.


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Edwards affair is his own affair, he's not in public office now. This is a big fat SO WHAT! I'm very sorry for his wife's public humiliation.

Posted by: Bartolomeo | August 8, 2008 10:07 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | August 8, 2008 10:29 PM | Report abuse

YES WE CAN!*

*Cheat on our dying spouses and lie about it to the public.

Posted by: P3epe | August 8, 2008 10:21 PM | Report abuse

I was never fond of Edwards but this story takes Edwards "potential future" position in an Obama cabinet and throws it out the window.

I am shocked and appaulled, not so much about the affair. Yes he was wrong and hypocritical about it since he chastized Bill Clinton in 1999 during the Lewinski scandal. It was the lying and denying after the story was revealed that shocked me.

Good thing Obama went on vacation so he doesn't have to deal with the Edwards' mess.

Posted by: Obama-Junkie | August 8, 2008 10:18 PM | Report abuse

Edwards affair is his own affair, he's not in public office now. This is a big fat SO WHAT! I'm very sorry for his wife's public humiliation.

Posted by: Bartolomeo | August 8, 2008 10:07 PM | Report abuse

To helen hunter: How can you talk about praye r and be so judgmental in the same blog?This is between the Edwards who cares who the baby belongs to.How can you people say you are voting for John McSenile knowing he cheated on his first wife with Cindy (Paris) McCain.And if truth be know probably has cheated on Cindy as reported.As far as only Dem. presidents cheating I think you had better check that out. I believe Daddy Bush had a thing for a secretary.The only reason Jr. has not cheated who would want him? Obama/Bayh 08
Connie from Indiana

Posted by: Anonymous | August 8, 2008 9:19 PM | Report abuse

If I was Obama and had any idea that a story was going to break about Edwards, I would make myself scarce and head out of town on vacation. This way, I would not have to answer questions or give an opinion; perhaps one that could come back to bite me later. Also, this allows for a disassociation of sorts. I have not noticed too much Obama news (recorded or live) today. Have you?

Posted by: Lynn | August 8, 2008 9:16 PM | Report abuse

"The National Enquirer," excuse me, "The Washington Post" and "Inside Edition," sorry again, ABC news, were once well regarded by some people as often offering relatively reasonably competent coverage of the news. Yet unfortunately this no longer seems to be true. As many writers, including at least a few reporters have lamented, most persons in the media in this country seems more concerned with entertainment than news coverage, with what comes across as "news" often being very superficial, lacking in historical perspective.

Most of the American media allowed itself to be muzzled and silenced by the Cheney-Bush, my apologies. Bush-Cheney regime, during the months leading up to the invasion of Iraq. Of course, most persons in the media seem to prefer stories about conflict and trivia than harmony and substance.

Remember most in the media clambored for two wars against Iraq. As long as the United States easily wins a war, the media is generally content, lots of big stories to cover and they can show their "patriotism." However, whenever a war goes bad, whether in Vietnam or Iraq, many in the media turn agains the party in power.

The media coverage of the primaries was generally of poor quality. Most in the print and television media seemed more interested in covering gottcha stories than presenting an analysis of issues. So Hillary's Bosnia comments and Barack's preacher in Chicago received far more coverage than their respective positions on health care or the economy, far more important subjects to the majority of Americans.

A neo-con mentality seems to have taken over the editorials of "The Washington Post" for many years, with their support of the invasion of Iraq, and practically cold war perspectives about China, as well as Russia.

The media television "coverage" during the Olympics, especially the opening ceremonies, Republican and Democratic conventions is likely to emphasize "commentary" over what is actually happening. Most reporters seem obsessed with thinking their opinions are valid and more important than what they are "covering."

Posted by: Independent | August 8, 2008 9:10 PM | Report abuse

Why do you need evidence to suggest that timing is interesting? The news of the day; Obama takes vacation to Hawaii. Olympics are getting into full swing and Edwards admits to an extramarital affair.

Posted by: Lynn | August 8, 2008 9:05 PM | Report abuse

Now it gets legally bad as his finance man admits to paying off Hunter and Young. How bad can it get?

http://www.political-buzz.com/

Posted by: mpp | August 8, 2008 8:49 PM | Report abuse

EDWARDS SEX SCANDAL THWARTS HILLARY COUP...
BUT SHE CAN NOW ANOINT GORE IF OBAMA FALTERS

• Affair raises memories of the blue dress and the Bill Factor

Today's sad news about John Edwards' cheatin' heart could prove to be both good news and bad news for Hillary Clinton -- and the blowback could be very bad news for Barack Obama.

Let's explain: The Edwards affair raises anew the seamy memories of Monica Lewinsky and Bill Clinton. Superdelegates who may have been toying with the idea of abandoning a fading Obama in favor of Hillary are surely to take pause: Do we really want all THAT flung back in our faces? (Pardon the mental picture).

But it also could be good news for Hillary. If she realizes there is no way she can win the nomination, then she could concentrate on the more important task at hand -- ensuring that the Dems go with a winner in the general.

Should Hillary put a Dem victory first, and assuming that Obama continues to falter in the face of a newly aggressive John McCain, she could anoint Al Gore the nominee by simply pledging her support, and her delegates, to the former vice president.

Surely that move would win additional support for Gore among delegates disillusioned with Obama's campaign performance -- and his vacillation on core issues such as civil liberties and domestic surveillance; wider application of the death penalty; gun control; and most recently, offshore drilling.

A Hillary delegate toss to Gore probably would ensure that Obama is not the Dem nominee; some previously undeclared superdelegates who have pledged support to Obama probably would welcome an excuse to go in another direction.

The fact that Gore refused to enter the contest earlier and fight for the nomination could give pause to some superdelegates. But most supers probably would be willing to overlook Gore's unwillingness to fight because he looks like a sure winner, especially when compared to Obama's sputtering performance of late in the tracking polls.

Bottom line: While the Edwards affair doesn't appear to be directly connected to Obama's quest for the presidency, when you start connecting the dots, another picture appears.

And that picture could be a portrait of the once and future President of the United States: Al Gore.

But would the cautious (some might say timid) Gore go along with it?

The Hillary-Obama drama marches on... perhaps prodded in a new direction by John Edwards' indiscretions.

BUT DOES THE ELECTION REALLY MATTER WHEN
GOVT-SUPPORTED "VIGILANTE JUSTICE" SQUADS
TARGET AMERICANS OUTSIDE THE BOUNDS OF LAW?

http://www.nowpublic.com/world/get-political-vic-livingston-opinion-expose-state-supported-vigilante-squads-doing-domestic-terrorism

Posted by: scrivener | August 8, 2008 8:43 PM | Report abuse

Elizabeth Edwards's Statement:

"Our family has been through a lot. Some caused by nature, some caused by human weakness, and some – most recently – caused by the desire for sensationalism and profit without any regard for the human consequences. None of these has been easy. But we have stood with one another through them all. Although John believes he should stand alone and take the consequences of his action now, when the door closes behind him, he has his family waiting for him.

John made a terrible mistake in 2006. The fact that it is a mistake that many others have made before him did not make it any easier for me to hear when he told me what he had done. But he did tell me. And we began a long and painful process in 2006, a process oddly made somewhat easier with my diagnosis in March of 2007. This was our private matter, and I frankly wanted it to be private because as painful as it was I did not want to have to play it out on a public stage as well. Because of a recent string of hurtful and absurd lies in a tabloid publication, because of a picture falsely suggesting that John was spending time with a child it wrongly alleged he had fathered outside our marriage, our private matter could no longer be wholly private.

The pain of the long journey since 2006 was about to be renewed.

John has spoken in a long on-camera interview I hope you watch. Admitting one’s mistakes is a hard thing for anyone to do, and I am proud of the courage John showed by his honesty in the face of shame. The toll on our family of news helicopters over our house and reporters in our driveway is yet unknown. But now the truth is out, and the repair work that began in 2006 will continue. I ask that the public, who expressed concern about the harm John’s conduct has done to us, think also about the real harm that the present voyeurism does and give me and my family the privacy we need at this time."

http://www.dailykos.com/user/elizabethedwards

Didn't work for Mrs. Larry Craig, did it? Why did the WaPo get scooped by the National Enquirer?

Posted by: JakeD | August 8, 2008 8:29 PM | Report abuse

Anonymous:

You're welcome.

Lynn:

Do you have any evidence to suggest that Edwards coordinated the timing of his announcement with anyone from the Obama campaign?

Posted by: JakeD | August 8, 2008 8:12 PM | Report abuse

JakeD Thanks. I checked it out and it does not surprise me. I heard a new slogan for Obama that seems to fit. "Obama is not change you can believe in, but weakness you can count on"
Keep on Keeping on JakeD.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 8, 2008 7:59 PM | Report abuse

Timing of the Edwards news and Obama taking a vacation to Hawaii is very interesting. Also, timing with the Olympics, Friday night, etc. This all equals more of the same as far as I'm concerned.

Posted by: Lynn | August 8, 2008 7:39 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: JakeD | August 8, 2008 7:38 PM | Report abuse

Try Google, Anonymous.

Posted by: JakeD | August 8, 2008 7:35 PM | Report abuse

JakeD tell us more. Larry Sinclair?

Posted by: Anonymous | August 8, 2008 7:33 PM | Report abuse

This is cool. I think they didn't listen to that big baby Chris on registration. Freedom! I drop by for the in your face comments but do view the Ads Wapo!
Thanks

Posted by: Wapo Rules | August 8, 2008 7:31 PM | Report abuse

One Scandal Awaits Obama:

Don't forget Larry Sinclair ...

Posted by: JakeD | August 8, 2008 7:29 PM | Report abuse

Obama has his own scandal that has been unreported. It is funny Edwards got so far with being that his affair was blatant. Media is doing the same for Barrack. Racism is much worse. However you view Edards you think he was a good guy when they finnally report on Obama's discrimination against other Americans.

Posted by: One Scandal Awaits Obama | August 8, 2008 7:20 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Silent But Deadly | August 8, 2008 7:11 PM | Report abuse

RE: UPDATE at 5:16 p.m. ET: why didn't some PR flack take out the reference to being "stripped bare"?!

Posted by: JakeD | August 8, 2008 6:50 PM | Report abuse

Aleks and John M.:

If Edwards stays clean for 25 years, just like McCain, maybe then he can run again.

Posted by: JakeD | August 8, 2008 6:48 PM | Report abuse

bondjedi:

At the very least, will you agree that Hillary would have come in second in Iowa rather than third?

Posted by: JakeD | August 8, 2008 6:40 PM | Report abuse

I wonder if it was in the butt.

Posted by: shirley | August 8, 2008 6:20 PM

My bet would be yes. She ugly. Only then- how would she get pregnant? I know! Immaculate conception! Could she possibly be a virgin? You know, Edwards is to the almighty as his assistant is to Joseph? Is it possible that he REALLY did not have sex with that woman?

Posted by: UBNIB | August 8, 2008 6:33 PM | Report abuse

What is with that grinning woman on the right I see every time I check a new entry, over the Microsoft Vista logo. Is that the enhancement that has been made to The Fix?

Posted by: bondjedi | August 8, 2008 6:32 PM | Report abuse

No problem! Infidelity is a resume enhancement for liberal democrats. He should run for president in Denver.

Posted by: kathyjoe | August 8, 2008 6:27 PM | Report abuse

As a foreigner living abroad, I am not affiliated with either party. Further, in my country, we do not have a culture of exposing the private life of candidates to the extent that you do in the States; culturally, we don't seem to care as much (even though our politicians stink just as bad or worse). This case, however, is different. Edwards used his wife as a prop in the campaign, she was part of the populist appeal. The extent to which that construct was a lie is disgusting. It is my view that this distinguishes him from the McCain affair, although it does sort of put him in the same category as Craig, in that the hypocrisy is equally ofensive. I also think that the Bill Clinton scandal was more of a private matter and a lesser misdemeanor, his public lying not withstanding. A president should not lie, but I think people should agree a president can't (and won't) always tell the truth (this is true of Lula, W., and will be true of Obama and/or McCain). Deliberate misleading of the public on one's more general values, plans, and beliefs is what should matter. Clinton never posed as a family values sort of guy (watching the guy you just knew he was to slick for monogamy), and to a great extent I think he was a pretty good president. People fool around. Even highly capable people fool around. I would rather have Bill Clinton as president than some of the faithful (or allegedly so) imbeciles we have down here any day. I know this might not be coming across as clear, but I just thought I'd get it out there. This reaaly isn't my business anyway.

Posted by: An unconcernced but not indifferent Brazilian | August 8, 2008 6:22 PM | Report abuse

That was not just last year though. Even Ronald Reagan -- divorced from Jane Wyman -- got elected (twice ; )

Posted by: JakeD | August 8, 2008 5:42 PM

Ah, the moral statute of limitations. Does it matter at all that McCain's career is based on his mistress/wife's family money? No?

Posted by: Aleks | August 8, 2008 6:20 PM | Report abuse

I wonder if it was in the butt.

Posted by: shirley | August 8, 2008 6:20 PM | Report abuse

Ho hum. Newt Gingrich sued his first wife for divorce when she was recuperating in the hospital after cancer surgery (sadly she and her daughters had to apply to their Church for financial assistence to pay their electricity bills after the divorce), his second wife, Mary Ann, was also surprized to find out that Newt was doing a campaign aide (much younger than he) who he married; McCain, as oft mentioned here, dumped his first wife Carol a few years after he returned from Vietnam and found out that the former model had gained weight and lost 4" of her height from a devastating car accident; McCain cheated on her almost immediately upon his release as a POW, and finally hit on 24 yr old heiress Cindy when he was 42 (there have also been rumors that he continues to be a dog, but at his age I doubt it.)

Edwards has done nothing original. What really surprizes me is that this chick is a bit long in the tooth, and is a dead ringer for Camilla Parker Bowles, LOL. If you are going to cheat on your dying wife, I think that you would at least go for a hot young chick.

I also find it hilarious that the crack-pot Hillary people have managed to tie even this story (which has nothing to do with him) to Barack Obama...you people need help. seriously.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 8, 2008 6:19 PM | Report abuse

"The Edwards voters would have gone to Clinton. Clinton+Edwards > Obama. Obama would not have won Iowa. Clinton would still have won NH. Obama would have fizzled."

She could have also tried campaigning in Iowa...

Posted by: DDAWD | August 8, 2008 6:18 PM | Report abuse

Bondjedi: More like Edwards siphoned votes from Obama, not Clinton. Clinton has always had a low favorability rating. Your statements are correct, it is a fantasy to think that without Edwards Clinton would be the nominee. Perhaps without Obama, Edwards would have been the nominee.

Posted by: Sunshine | August 8, 2008 6:16 PM | Report abuse

"Hey Speaker of the House, how many Presidents and Presidential candidates on the Dem side cheat and stay married and LIE directly to the cameras about it vs Repubs? Clinton, Clinton, JFK, Edwards, etc. etc etc."

two?

Posted by: DDAWD | August 8, 2008 6:15 PM | Report abuse

How come no one is talking about the curse of being the Demo VP nominee? We have Edwards, the 2004 nominee; we have the 2000 nom Lieberman humiliated in the 2004 prez primaries before losing his 2006 primary bid for the Senate; Al Gore has rehabilitated himself somewhat, but not before being the footnote to the 2000 race.

Bentsen did okay, but Ferraro has made an ass of herself lately. Mondale, like Gore, lost when he ran for president. Shriver escaped shame, but he was on the ticket because the previous '72 choice was booted off because of shock therapy.

Posted by: bondjedi | August 8, 2008 6:13 PM | Report abuse

I'm a Republican and never would have voted for John Edwards anyway.

But as a Christian, I think we should show mercy and a spirit of forgiveness. What he did was horrible -- I can't imagine what his wife and kids must be going through. I'm sure the family has a lot of healing to do -- and John Edwards has a lot of apologizing to do. But I don't believe in kicking a man when he's down. I've done bad things, you've done bad things -- none of us is any better than the other. We'll all have low moments in our life -- some of them self-made. Show the forgiveness that you hope to be shown.

Posted by: LisaM | August 8, 2008 6:13 PM | Report abuse

Christine wrote: It hasn't been that long ago that the Democrats had a President impeached not for having an affair but for lying about it.
_________
Under oath. Clinton lied under oath. That's the difference between Edwards lying to the public and Clinton's lie to a Grand Jury. I personally don't care if Edwards or McCain lie about affairs to the media. But the President should not have lied under oath.

Posted by: Penmanship | August 8, 2008 6:10 PM | Report abuse

"At the very least, Hillary would have come in second in Iowa (I have to agree with "Fair Fair Fair" that she more likely would have beat Obama -- thus, she would have sealed the deal on Super Tuesday -- not sure which other primary election you are referring to."

Sigh. I guess we can maintain the fantasy that Obama won in Iowa because John Edwards siphoned votes from Hillary Clinton, so long as we ignore the superior organization Obama had on the ground in Iowa, and also ignore Obama clobbering all other candidates in fund-raising before Edwards left the party (was he siphoning Edwards money, too?), and also ignore the complete chaos in the Clinton organization, and also ignore the memos from within her campaign that she wasn't going to win in Iowa, produced before Obama caught lightning in a bottle, and also ignore the fact that even Bill Clinton didn't bother with Iowa, and also ignore ... well, you get the picture.

In a five-way race, in a ten-way race, in a two-way race, HRC was not going to win in Iowa. Period.

Posted by: bondjedi | August 8, 2008 6:08 PM | Report abuse

Quite the shocker. Hard to imagine that he kept this from his campaign team for the entire duration. I suppose it would have killed his chances at the nomination, but shouldn't this have come out immediately?

What if Obama never ran and Edwards managed to beat Hillary? He would be the Dem nominee and this secret would just be waiting to explode on the scene. Mind blowing...

http://www.political-buzz.com/

Posted by: matt | August 8, 2008 5:50 PM | Report abuse

Jake D. and Fair Fair Fair, it's not clear to me that Edwards dropping out would have helped Clinton. As I remember it, people initially thought Edwards dropping out would help Obama because they were splitting the anti-Clinton vote. Then they thought it would help Clinton because Edwards attracted blue-collar white Dems. When Edwards did drop out, it wasn't at all clear who it actually helped. I think it varied a lot by state.

Only four states were contested with Edwards in the race. SC would have gone for Obama if IA went for him. I don't think Edwards voters would have split for Clinton enough in IA to give her a win, and in fact Obama was ahead as the second choice of Edwards voters if I recall. IA is a border state with IL and Clinton did not do well in WI/MN either.

It's not clear to me that Edwards supporters in NH or NV were particularly likely to give Clinton bigger margins there, either. Yes, it would have helped Clinton if we were discussing OH/PA etc., but we're not.

Posted by: John M. | August 8, 2008 5:50 PM | Report abuse


McCain was still married and living with his wife in 1979 while, according to The New York Times' Nicholas Kristof, "aggressively courting a 25-year-old woman who was as beautiful as she was rich." McCain divorced his wife, who had raised their three children, then launched his political career with his new wife's family money.

Posted by: SpeakTruth | August 8, 2008 5:47 PM | Report abuse

Aleks:

That was not just last year though. Even Ronald Reagan -- divorced from Jane Wyman -- got elected (twice ; )

Posted by: JakeD | August 8, 2008 5:42 PM | Report abuse

I suspect if John McCain was making this admission today, there would be just a little more outrage ; )
Posted by: JakeD | August 8, 2008 5:21 PM

That's right, John McCain, champion of Family Values and paragon of fidelity.

Posted by: Aleks | August 8, 2008 5:35 PM | Report abuse

The DNA tests are in. John Edwards.....(long pause)... you ARE the father!!!

AHAHAHAHAAH (Screaming woman runs around the stage, stumbles to the floor, boobs fall out- pixelated to keep it rated G).

Mrs. Edwards stands above the dirtbag and repeatedly hits him with her fists.

Big bouncers try to break it up. Baby cries in the corner.

Je-RRY! Je-RRY! Je-RRY!!!!

Maybe we could do this on stage in Denver???

Posted by: Jerry Springer show | August 8, 2008 5:34 PM | Report abuse

"... undergoing ego dislocations ..."

Is that what the youngsters are calling it these days?

Posted by: JakeD | August 8, 2008 5:28 PM | Report abuse

To FAIR, FAIR, FAIR...

I give you credit for ignoring Mrs. Clinton's prevailing mantra during the early primaries, which was that quite a few of the primaries and caucuses "didn't matter." It was that mode of thought which cost her the candidacy, not media coverage and certainly not John Edwards' indiscretions.

Please also consider that even before the Iowa campaign, Senator Obama's war chest of funs was already overflowing. He would have been in the race much longer than you predict, even if Mr. Edwards' supporters aligned themselves with Mrs. Clinton -- which I'm not as confident as you are about that point. After all, at face value Edwards talking points were much closer to Obama's than to Clinton's. If political discourse was the primary determinant, I predict that most of Edwards supporters would have eventually, inevitably chosen Mr. Obama.

As an independent, I have a clear perspective of these things. What troubles me is how many of Mrs. Clinton's supporters continue to hold onto some perceived wrong without first assessing their candidate's blatantly obvious missteps. You will never be able to convince anyone that media coverage is the fatal flaw with a candidate as well-known and as well-funded as one Hillary Rodham Clinton.

I am willing to forego my party to make a mature, informed and well-reasoned decision about my family's future and the future of this country. I hope that when you get to the booth, you are able to do the same.

Posted by: Max Winecrest III | August 8, 2008 5:27 PM | Report abuse

Clinton didn't have sex with that woman, Ms. Lewinsky; which is to say, oral sex, yes, but not coitus. Lie? Maybe, but in the South we just call that fooling around, not having sex.

Feel free to get over it at any point now. After all, unlike Bush's economic policies, it's not really having a long-term effect on our daily lives.

Posted by: nenny | August 8, 2008 5:25 PM | Report abuse

To those who refused to believe: We told you so.

This surprises nobody here in Edwards' home state. There is a reason this clown did not even try to get re-elected to the senate. Hear this and hear it good: The baby is his! Edwards' ego is so big that even now he can't fathom a DNA test ever being done, despite the pressure which will only continue to grow (to the party's detriment). The baby is his.

Posted by: gmundenat | August 8, 2008 5:25 PM | Report abuse

Fair Fair Fair:

I suspect if John McCain was making this admission today, there would be just a little more outrage ; )

Posted by: JakeD | August 8, 2008 5:21 PM | Report abuse

I think that the woman was a promiscuous professional, doing several men in the professional environment and networking and advancing herself in that way.

Edwards is the kind of spineless, creepily infantile-regressive, female submissive man that my professor was, who got caught up with a similar woman even though he had a high gov't post. A dominant, sexually aggressive woman is appealing to spineless, female-submissive weasels.

Edwards was probably having some kind of emotional dislocation because his wife is fighting a recurring cancer. He is too insecure as a man to be without a dominant female ego in his life and Elizabeth can be taken away from him by cancer.

I know guys like him, my professor was one. The affable, sweet, boyish idealists often need a dominating female ego in their world that defines their value system and their place in the world. Edwards was undergoing ego dislocations and insecurity on account of his presidential candidacy and Elizabeth's recurrence of cancer.

That's the only excuse for reaching out to such a promiscuous hag who was doing half the campaign staff. My professor was scrambling after a professionally degreed woman who kept a leather miniskirt and thigh-high stockings in her office at work. And he really loved the cynical, promiscuous hag who was sexually networked with his subordinate at the same time.

Half of the motivation for Edwards doing such an ugly woman sexually networked with his staff is probably emotional, not sexual.

Posted by: Dr. Dennis Healy's student | August 8, 2008 5:17 PM | Report abuse

Greg:

Why isn't possible BLACKMAIL an issue you think matters to the country?

Posted by: JakeD | August 8, 2008 5:16 PM | Report abuse

JakeD-

Are we the only one's who get it???

Posted by: Fair Fair Fair | August 8, 2008 5:15 PM | Report abuse

So, by my count, that means Edwards has cheated on a current spouse one-hundredth as often as "Family Values" McCain has ...

Hmm.

How many bigamy actions? - McCain is ahead on that one too.

Posted by: Will in Seattle | August 8, 2008 5:15 PM | Report abuse

We would like to offer John Edwards a position:

Surgeon General: you need to tell young people to use condoms

Administrator of the Accountability Office: because a law degree and all that work to crumble in your 40's is a HUGE waste.

OMB: because your accounting skills, paying off the baby moma without being detetected by the IRS, FEC or the wife are impressive.

Sanitation Department: because you are so full of crap we need to keep it contained.

Vice President: being such a dirtbag, no one will hurt President Obama because we won't want YOU as the President.

Posted by: The Obama Transition Team | August 8, 2008 5:14 PM | Report abuse

He's actually running -- and he cheated on his first wife with his current wife.

Posted by: What about McCain? | August 8, 2008 5:13 PM | Report abuse

Who these people sleep with is none of my business. Just like who I sleep with is none of theirs.

Can we move on please and talk about issues that matter to the country?

Posted by: Greg | August 8, 2008 5:12 PM | Report abuse

hoosierdaddy:

Please (re)read the posts below by "Fair Fair Fair" if you really can't grasp the relevance to Obama's nomination.

Posted by: JakeD | August 8, 2008 5:10 PM | Report abuse

You can tell its the dog days of summer when the news outlets and bloggers sweat about a story that has no legs in the real world.Former Senator Edwards has done nothing more than ruin his political future and jeopardized his family life...welcome to the club,John.He is going down the road traveled by countless others in politics.You will have your fun with this story and then you will move on to something else of little import.Sigh.
"Judge not,lest ye be judged."

Posted by: hoosierdaddy | August 8, 2008 5:06 PM | Report abuse

This could be pinned on Obama.

Edwards claimed he never cheated on his wife. He said he was faithful. Well, so much for his word.

Obama said he is against off shore drilling, for the DC gun ban, against NAFTA, for Jerusalam as the Capital of Israel, for the surge against the surge, withdraw the tropps NOW- naahh wait a year...

See? They both believe in 2 Americas. One that SAY, the otehr that you DO.

Posted by: Two Americas | August 8, 2008 5:04 PM | Report abuse

John and Elizabeth Edwards ceased being public figures the day he dropped out of the race.

For the slow minded here, again, NO LONGER PUBLIC FIGURES.

How awful for Elizabeth - the only thing worse for her would be for the media and bloggers to add insult to injury by now playing this out around the country.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 8, 2008 5:03 PM | Report abuse

jill:

Would your reaction be the same if it were George W. Bush and/or Dick Cheney admitting to this affair instead?

Posted by: JakeD | August 8, 2008 5:01 PM | Report abuse

Fair Fair Fair:

She didn't even need the vast majority. 60-65% of the Edwards vote would have been enough to beat Obama.

Posted by: JakeD | August 8, 2008 4:59 PM | Report abuse

Whoop-di-effin-do

Posted by: jill | August 8, 2008 4:55 PM | Report abuse

Dirik Lolkus:

Please (re)read the posts below by "Fair Fair Fair" and then try to argue that "Edwards had nothing to do with Obama's nomination". I just want to know if Edwards has to give back his jet ski now? There must be something in Stephen Colbert's bottled water ...

Posted by: JakeD | August 8, 2008 4:54 PM | Report abuse

The Washington Post ignored this Edwards story until it got so far Edwards himself admitted it and the father of the baby stepped forward. I'm surprised they didn't wait for the kid's graduation ceremony.

The Washington Post has really lost any shred of journalism ethics in this election year when it comes to balance and coverage.

What's even worse is the serious damage the Post and like mainstream news outlets are doing in misrepresenting the energy debate and the true merits and problems of the respective candidates' energy platforms. It's so focused on spins instead of real analysis that it things when it goes one step further into selective reporting and rationalization, it doesn't realize it's energy platform coverage is no longer in the realm of reality.

The John Edwards story is really, really sad. I feel badly for Elizabeth Edwards, who was always clearly the better half of this couple and who, in a more equal world, would have been a better VP candidate than her husband.

What is even sadder though is how the Post's deliberate ignorance of the story shows how biased its selective reporting practices have become and how little accountability there is in the fourth estate for propagandist behavior in election years.

Posted by: AsperGirl | August 8, 2008 4:53 PM | Report abuse

bondjedi:

At the very least, Hillary would have come in second in Iowa (I have to agree with "Fair Fair Fair" that she more likely would have beat Obama -- thus, she would have sealed the deal on Super Tuesday -- not sure which other primary election you are referring to ; )

Posted by: JakeD | August 8, 2008 4:49 PM | Report abuse

This has nothing to do with Obama or his campaign. All it does is ruin John Edward's credbility in future public life.The fact that he cheated on his wife while she had cancer is bad enough...the fact that she knew about it and kept it quiet during the Presidential campaign reflects poorly on both of them. But Obama has nothing to do with them...if McCain tries to run adds tying this to Obama I hope the Obama compaing does counter-ads talking about McCain's deserting his first wife because she was in an auto accident and trading up to somebody richer.

Posted by: Dirik Lolkus | August 8, 2008 4:48 PM | Report abuse

From CNN:
Barack Obama 940 37.6%
John Edwards 744 29.7
Hillary Clinton 737 29.5

Without Edwards in the race (if the media DID it's job) Clinton would have gotten the VAST majority of the Edwards vote. She would be the nominee.

Posted by: Fair Fair Fair | August 8, 2008 4:47 PM | Report abuse

Hey Speaker of the House, how many Presidents and Presidential candidates on the Dem side cheat and stay married and LIE directly to the cameras about it vs Repubs? Clinton, Clinton, JFK, Edwards, etc. etc etc.

Let's not compare apples and oranges.

And, better yet, how about "I did not have sex with that woman, Ms. Lewinsky."

You'll never win this one.

Posted by: Speaker of the OutHouse | August 8, 2008 4:44 PM | Report abuse

Shame on Edwards for imitating Newt Gingrich. He should be more original. After all, Gingrich did it 3 times.

Posted by: chopin224 | August 8, 2008 4:43 PM | Report abuse

No male prostitutes, foot tapping bathroom action, or IM's to underaged boys? Oh, right, this is a Democratic sex scandal.

Posted by: Yawn | August 8, 2008 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Ya'll seen the "i'm so pretty" video of pretty boy Edwards combing his flop for 6 minutes?

It's like Lady MacBeth: out! out! damn spot!

Can't wash the guilt off your face can you little pony? All the aqua-net and styling mousse cannot cover up that guilt.

next you'll start sleep walking in that museum home of yours.

Two Americas! You live in the dirty one.

Posted by: Bill Shakespeare | August 8, 2008 4:40 PM | Report abuse

Enquiring minds know
John Edwards, baby daddy
wife has cancer, too

Posted by: the hai-kook | August 8, 2008 4:40 PM | Report abuse

"You are discounting that Obama would not have won anything prior to Super Tuesday, and therefore had ZERO momentum, without Edwards sucking votes away from Clinton. "

Trying to pin Hillary's Iowa debacle on Edwards is laughable. Which election are you following? She had no organization in place, and she tried to compensate for it by flushing millions down the drain providing free rock salt, donuts, and pizza to polling places. Her own friggin' campaign told her not to bother showing up.

If Edwards weren't there, the end result would have been the same for Hillary, and Obama would have nabbed the Edwards caucusgoers.

Posted by: bondjedi | August 8, 2008 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Bill has a point -- this has much more of a potential impact on McCain, who himself is an adulterer, than it will have on Obama.

Posted by: I agree | August 8, 2008 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Such a public outcry about a former presidential candidate admitting to an affair two years ago.
Only one poster said anything about the lies from President Goerge W. Buch and Vice President Dick Cheney that cost this nation thousands of lives, tens of thousands wounded and maimed, hundreds of thousands of Iraqis killed, wounded and maimed, millions dislocated by an U.S. invasion and occupation of Iraq, and over a trillion dollars much better spent at home.
News media have documented how many times the Bush administration has lied, and no public outrage. Such incompetence and corruption in government perpetuated by the Bush administration.
No action yet taken by Congress to impeach them for the high crimes and misdemeanors they committed for the sake of power and money.

Posted by: Jonathan R. Seaver | August 8, 2008 4:37 PM | Report abuse

What a despicable POS. I actually went to see him and ask him a question, when he launched his candidacy. I asked him a question relating to national healthcare coverage and that it was key point to who I support. I mentioned my wife had 4th stage cancer, and we can't get a policy written. My Cobra coverage ran out, I tried purchasing an individual policy and was treated like a leper. I was told by family and friends to get a divorce (after 30+ years), so my wife can get medicaid. My pension just puts me above the minimum income required to qualify us. My wife took care of me when I returned injured from Vietnam, and it hurts that I can't do what's right by her in regard to her well being.
I heard rumors of this affair, before the Enquirer broke the story last year. That was from a friend that was involved in his campaign. I absolutely didn't believe it. I don't care about the salacious details of the affair or the kids paternity, it's just really makes my blood boil. That vanity aspect and ego aspect, that makes some men go this far shows he's a pig. Elizabeth thinks the world of him and being terminally ill with children, almost makes it impossible for her not to take the bum back. We have so many politicians that are lowlifes, I think it's a precursor for the job. Ones status, including wealth, is a driving factor. Dante Alighieri in his epic poem The Divine Comedy described it best, and the seven deadly sins: lust, gluttony, greed, sloth, wrath, envy, and pride. How many did Edwards fulfill?

Posted by: Sean | August 8, 2008 4:35 PM | Report abuse

What about John McCain?

Let's see what the right-wing bloviators have to say about John McCain cheating on his first wife Carol, who had raised their three kids while he was in Vietnam and had been disabled in a car accident.

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2006/0607.benen.html

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections/article3295472.ece

If we're talking about character mattering, it seems a bit more relevant to turn the microscope onto John McCain, who's actually running for the White House this year, than former candidate Edwards, who probably just blew a cabinet position and his political future.

Posted by: Bill | August 8, 2008 4:35 PM | Report abuse

Nik-
My point is that the Inquirer ahs pushed this story for a year and every mainstream outlet ignored it.

If they had NOT ignored it, but covered it, Edwards would not have been a factor in the fall.

The Edwards voters would have gone to Clinton. Clinton+Edwards > Obama. Obama would not have won Iowa. Clinton would still have won NH. Obama would have fizzled.

But the media did NOT cover it. Not because they loved Obama. But because they are cowards.

Posted by: Fair Fair Fair | August 8, 2008 4:34 PM | Report abuse

"Edwards said he has not taken a paternity test but knows he isn't the father because of the timing of the affair and the birth."

MAURY POVICH SHOW, here we come!!!

Posted by: JakeD | August 8, 2008 4:33 PM | Report abuse

Nik (and dee):

You are discounting that Obama would not have won anything prior to Super Tuesday, and therefore had ZERO momentum, without Edwards sucking votes away from Clinton. Same thing happened to Romney when Huckabee made such a strong showing. Without Huckabee in the race, McCain would likey not be the presumptive GOP nominee today.

Posted by: JakeD | August 8, 2008 4:31 PM | Report abuse

Howard Kurtz has had his column posted for about a half hour now and there is no comment section at this time.

Posted by: Karl | August 8, 2008 4:30 PM | Report abuse

What McCain did was wrong.

After 2000+ days of torture in a vietnamese POW camp... we can try to ahve some compassion that Mr. McCain was not of sound mind.

Edwards lives in a 20,000sqft mansion and has hundreds of millions of dollars but wanted MORE MORE MORE.

1 guy is a mental and physical disaster. 1 guy is a moral disaster and narcist.

Big difference dumb dumb dee.

Typical dem caught with his hand in the cookie jar and screams "but he did it too!". Obama is going down doo doo head.

Posted by: dee is a jackass | August 8, 2008 4:28 PM | Report abuse

dee:

Do you disagree with the assessment of "Fair Fair Fair"? I tend to agree that Obama loses the nomination if this had come out before Iowa.

Posted by: JakeD | August 8, 2008 4:28 PM | Report abuse

"If this was give coverage 1 year ago like it deserved, it would have crushed Edwards and helped Hillary and there would be no Obama or his braindead lemmings..."

Excuse me, FAIR, FAIR, FAIR, but here's a little history lesson for you since you seem to have selective memory. Edwards dropped out of the race on January 30, 2008. That was before Super Tuesday when Obama won the majority of the contests and before his 11 state sweep. Hillary lost. Too bad the delusional want to find someone blame. What happened to the super delegate argument, or the Florida/Michigan argument? At least they were MINIMALLY plausible.

Posted by: Nik | August 8, 2008 4:27 PM | Report abuse

This story has been alive on the blogosphere for a while now, especially after the National Enquirer caught Sen. Silky Pony sneaking around an L.A. hotel after visiting his paramour. Yet the mainstream media ignored it until he actually admitted to it. By contrast, the New York Times ran that story strongly implying Sen. McCain was having an improper relationship, if not an affair, with a lobbyist, with much less than the National Enquirer had on Sen. Silky Pony. Can we all just admit now that the mainstream media, including the Post, is biased against conservatives and Republicans?

Posted by: dockeppins | August 8, 2008 4:26 PM | Report abuse

The Post, the Times, the Media.They all covered up this story until the Olympics. Maybe Edwards was in touch with you guys.When is the best time to air my dirty, dirty laundry?
The New York Times was happy to slander McCain about having a mistress without ANY evidence on their front page! You all shill for the Democratic Party.
What is it about the Democrats? Why can't these guys just have a quiet, regular affair.Instead it's got to be an Intern in the Oval office,or deceiving a wife dying of cancer. What repellent sex skeleton does Obama have in his closet? Something to do with "Rev" Wright? His "spiritual" advisor.

Posted by: paladin33 | August 8, 2008 4:26 PM | Report abuse

"If this was give coverage 1 year ago like it deserved, it would have crushed Edwards and helped Hillary and there would be no Obama or his braindead lemmings..."

Excuse me, FAIR, FAIR, FAIR, but here's a little history lesson for you since you seem to have selective memory. Edwards dropped out of the race on January 30, 2008. That was before Super Tuesday when Obama won the majority of the contests and before his 11 state sweep. Hillary lost. Too bad the delusional want to find someone blame. What happened to the super delegate argument, or the Florida/Michigan argument? At least they were MINIMALLY plausible.

Posted by: Nik | August 8, 2008 4:26 PM | Report abuse

....definitely not what I was expecting and I will say that much....

I'm sure everyone informed of the situation has made their judgments on this matter. I cannot imagine the entire family, wife and children being in the midst of all of this publicity on the issue. I do feel for them, that this private matter has been exposed on this scale; they need their privacy. My hope is that John Edwards remain in tact with his family, and work hard like ________ to not allow that to happen again, and make amends with his family; I hope that they remain strong given the DIFFICULT situation. One of the best signs of love and strength, is the ability to forgive when it feels extremely hard. I hope they work out the issue, and remain strong, together.

Oh dear...

Posted by: Obama2008 | August 8, 2008 4:25 PM | Report abuse

Fair Fair Fair:

Since I didn't want the Clintons back in the White House, I don't mind. It is funny to see those like MPR try to dismiss this as "old hat" though ; )

Posted by: JakeD | August 8, 2008 4:25 PM | Report abuse

The Post, the Times, the Media.They all covered up this story until the Olympics. Maybe Edwards was in touch with you guys.When is the best time to air my dirty, dirty laundry?
The New York Times was happy to slander McCain about having a mistress without ANY evidence on their front page! You all shill for the Democratic Party.
What is it about the Democrats? Why can't these guys just have a quiet, regular affair.Instead it's got to be an Intern in the Oval office,or deceiving a wife dying of cancer. What repellent sex skeleton does Obama have in his closet? Something to do with "Rev" Wright? His "spiritual" advisor.

Posted by: paladin33 | August 8, 2008 4:23 PM | Report abuse

Hmmm... dashing politician makes time with younger blonde while his wife suffers from life-threatening health concerns.

John Edwards = John McCain. The both of them are cheating hypocrites unworthy of the love of their wives or the respect of the voters.

Impact on Obama campaign? None whatsoever except to remind us of what an unmitigated scoundrel John McCain is.

Posted by: dee | August 8, 2008 4:23 PM | Report abuse

Hey, Zuckerman, long time no see!

Posted by: JakeD | August 8, 2008 4:18 PM | Report abuse

Some of the comments here are angering.

This was a cover-up from the beginning by the liberal media. Now that it broke, they HAVE to react. If this was give coverage 1 year ago like it deserved, it would have crushed Edwards and helped Hillary and there would be no Obama or his braindead lemmings.

Second- if this was a REPUBLICAN it would be front page news for a year. All of you saying "who cares" or "it's personal" it tell you this: I agree with you. 100%. But I also said this when it happened to toe-tapping Craig. Did you?

Third- the issue is not adultery. Just like it wasn't the issue for Bill the-blue-dress Clinton. The issue is LYING. They both repeatedly lied and lied and swore they were innocent. Edwards just never did it to the gand jury. Otherwise he'd be in jail, as should Clinton be for perjury.

Fourth- this is why we need term limits. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. And these dirt bag politicans from Ted Stevens to Charlie Rangel ALL abuse and STEAL and FANAGLE the system to their advantage.

TERM LIMITS. Get them out.

Posted by: Fair Fair Fair | August 8, 2008 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Since it's reported that Edwards gave his honey a $100,000 contract to produce a couple of minutes worth of tv advertisements--presumably with campaign funds--his forthright pay for-what-you-want with your own money makes Elliot Spitzer look downright upright by comparison.

Posted by: Sam | August 8, 2008 4:14 PM | Report abuse

In response to Take Him to the Cleaners' comment re Democratic wives (and this is coming to you from a Republican) ... more than a few GOP politicos remain married to the wives they "wronged," from Vito Fossella to Larry Craig to Richard Curtis. I fail to see how one can accuse the wives of Democratic politicians as being fools to stay married when their Republican counterparts have stayed married as well. THTC's comment exhibits the tone I find disappointing when many people respond to news stories: cocky, offensive, ill-informed, superior, and brimming with schadenfreude.

Posted by: Speaker of the House | August 8, 2008 4:14 PM | Report abuse

Sad day for America that the Enquirer is our source of investigative reporting of our Presidential wannbes! I sure hope they haven’t been sitting on any indiscretions of Obama. We know the NY Times tried to print a false story on McCain!

Also, we know that Edwards previously denied this affair and lied about it then!

Posted by: theaz | August 8, 2008 4:14 PM | Report abuse

Who cares??? Well, I'll tell ya: People who write in to say, Why cares. Thats who.

Posted by: Tupac Goldstein | August 8, 2008 4:13 PM | Report abuse

Thinking with the little head instead of the big head.

Posted by: Tim | August 8, 2008 4:12 PM | Report abuse

I never thought John Edwards was a particularly good person, and at last I can admit it openly without getting attacked by fellow Dems he deceived with his newly minted populist approach in this election cycle. This deserves every bit the same degree of scorn as the Spitzer or the various Republican sex scandals, but it probably won't get the same attention since it was dumped on a Friday afternoon as the Olympics were starting.

Thank God he is not the nominee. I have to wonder about the Elizabeth Edwards spot at the convention.

Posted by: John M. | August 8, 2008 4:12 PM | Report abuse

For heavens sake. When is the American media going to Grow Up and get over its obsession with Sex, Sex, Sex. The rest of the world thinks we're ridiculous. With all the big problems we have, give us some real News instead of Pablum and tripe like this. Act like we have brains. Get out of the man's personal like and leave him & his family alone. Have the yellow journalists considered how much they have hurt his family? Do they care? No doubt this is timed to try & put a cloud on the upcoming Democratic convention. My opinion of most of the American media is already in the toilet. Check out BBC news people, for the real stuff.

Posted by: Chicagoan | August 8, 2008 4:12 PM | Report abuse

This revelation is 'old hat' and given the daily news onslaught of evil-doings and evil-doers that we are barraged with I wonder where is all of the OUTRAGE at the really destructive things and people that truly effect us? This item should be relegated to 'small potatoes.'

Posted by: MPR | August 8, 2008 4:12 PM | Report abuse

LOL! Quick, there are no curtains in that picture of Edwards!!! Are we SURE that was actually taken "during a July news conference in July"? Enquiring minds want to know ; )

Posted by: JakeD | August 8, 2008 4:11 PM | Report abuse

Reading some of these comments posted . . . it is hillarious how some of you start pointing at McCain right away. I am not a big McCain fan, but this is clearly different . . . you fools.

Posted by: Texas Lady | August 8, 2008 4:08 PM | Report abuse

You know there must be something to the "Change" theme when it's the White guy that has all of the baby mama drama.

All jokes aside, could the belly of a snake be lower than my view of J.E. at this very moment? While his wife was/is dying of cancer, he's out poking and prodding the hired help. What a pathetic excuse for a human being!

Posted by: Maximilian Winecrest III | August 8, 2008 4:07 PM | Report abuse

L'AFFAIRE EDWARDS COULD CHECKMATE HILLARY'S 'PUTSCH'

• Sex scandal raises memories of "the blue dress"

• But Hillary could anoint Gore if Obama sputters

Today's sad news about John Edwards could prove to be both good news and bad news for Hillary Clinton -- and the blowback could be very bad news for Barack Obama.

Let me explain: The Edwards affair raises anew the seamy memories of Monica Lewinsky and Bill Clinton. Superdelegates who may have been toying with the idea of abandoning a fading Obama in favor of Hillary are surely to take pause: Do we really want all THAT flung back in our faces? (Pardon the mental picture).

But it also could be good news for Hillary. If she realizes there is no way she can win the nomination, then she could concentrate on the more important task at hand -- ensuring that the Dems go with a winner in the general.

Should Hillary put a Dem victory first, and assuming that Obama continues to falter, she could anoint Al Gore the nominee by simply pledging her support, and her delegates, to the former vice president.

Surely that move would win additional support for Gore among delegates disillusioned with Obama's campaign performance -- and his vacillation on core issues such as civil liberties; domestic surveillance; the death penalty; and the right of localities to enact reasonable gun control laws.

Even it this point, a Hillary toss to Gore probably would ensure that Obama is not the Dem nominee; some previously undeclared delegates who have pledged support to Obama probably would welcome an excuse to go in another direction.

The fact that Gore refused to enter the contest earlier and fight for the nomination could give pause to some superdelegates. Sut most supers probably would be willing to overlook Gore's unwillingness to fight because he looks like a sure winner, especially when compared to Obama's sputtering performance of late in the tracking polls.

Bottom line: While the Edwards affair doesn't appear to be directly connected to Obama's quest for the presidency, when you start connecting the dots, another picture appears.

And that picture could be a portrait of the once and future President of the United States: Al Gore.

But would the cautious (some might say timid) Gore go along with it?

The Hillary-Obama drama marches on... perhaps prodded in a new direction by John Edwards' indiscretions.

BUT DOES THE ELECTION REALLY MATTER WHEN
GOVT-SUPPORTED "VIGILANTE JUSTICE" SQUADS
TARGET AMERICANS OUTSIDE THE BOUNDS OF LAW?

http://www.nowpublic.com/world/get-political-vic-livingston-opinion-expose-state-supported-vigilante-squads-doing-domestic-terrorism

Posted by: scrivener | August 8, 2008 4:07 PM | Report abuse

I know many people believe it's between him and his wife, and I suppose that since he didn't get elected (thank God), it really is. But it's still disappointing. Why bother taking a marriage vow at all? Besides, if someone in public office behaves this way, isn't there a problem with potential blackmailing? Personally, I'm sick of all of these slimy guys in politics.

Posted by: Sick of it all! | August 8, 2008 4:07 PM | Report abuse

who really cares like he is the first to be involved in something like this,Does this make him less of a man, less able to help his country,check your own house,yours is glass and you are throwing stones, becareful. Leave the man and his family alone,show me the pure man and or pure woman for that matter,Why do you think Hillary did not leave B Clinton?

Posted by: bgirl525 | August 8, 2008 4:07 PM | Report abuse

He cheated on the thousands of us who gave him faith and support as a "good" politician. What a disgusting tragic end to an otherwise good career.

North Carolina Edwards supporter (former)

Posted by: pegleg | August 8, 2008 4:06 PM | Report abuse

Character counts. Yes, it does.

Posted by: Elsie | August 8, 2008 4:05 PM | Report abuse

My best friend's husband has gone "liberal" in his "old age" . . . during the primaries, he finally ended up supporting Edwards because Edwards was such a rightous dude . . . ho hum.

I am a conservative and if he were a conservative, I would be just as disgusted. The difference is - for liberals - no big deal. Lies about sex are not really lies, you know! It is not an important lie.

For conservatives - heads would roll. That is how it should be.

Posted by: Texas Lady | August 8, 2008 4:04 PM | Report abuse

This is really distressing, chiefly for his family's hurt and embarrassment, but also because we the trusting electorate have been gotcha'd again.

I find it odd that rarely in comments about such scandals does anyone mention what a satyr the sainted JFK was. We didn't know about it at the time and we haven't let it tarnish our hagiography of him. His successors seem like pikers by comparison, don't they?

As for giving Barack Obama credit for being a "good family man": can you imagine what Michelle would do to him if he messed around? She would not stand next to him with downcast eyes as he confessed on TV. Besides, he has all the sex appeal of a Gumby.

Posted by: Sopra | August 8, 2008 4:02 PM | Report abuse

So much for opposition research
This is HUGE.
If this would have actually come out earlier just think no Edwards in Iowa
and therefore Hillary cruises in Iowa which means no Obama and a McCain in the white house. WOW

Posted by: Wow | August 8, 2008 4:01 PM | Report abuse

We might have known all that money he spent on his hair wasn't to attract voters.

Posted by: jhbyer | August 8, 2008 4:01 PM | Report abuse

Yawn . . .
Meanwhile, the news that should be headlined all over the world in every newspaper until some form of justice emerges, is Suskin's revelations of our President's, his Vice President's and others' in his administrations' FABRICATED LIES to throw away 4,000+ of our troops lives, maim tens of thousands more, and murder hundreds of thousands of Iraqi Civilians - For What?

Posted by: Lu Franklin | August 8, 2008 4:01 PM | Report abuse

If Edwards had been the Democratic nominee, this story would have been a detriment, to put it mildly. As it is, Edwards is just another supporter of Obama--like Bill Clinton. It shouldn't matter to the campaign.

But...

If candidates start throwing everybody under the bus who'd had an affair, McCain would have to be the first man under the wheels.

My heart goes out to Elizabeth. Now we know Edwards was not standing by her side as she fought cancer.

Posted by: Seneca | August 8, 2008 4:01 PM | Report abuse

Trying to tie the Clintons into this and Charlie Rangel is patently ridiculous. What it does do is bring up all the memories of Bill Clinton, Monica, lies etc. I liked Edwards and though he would have made a great Attorney General. No more. It's up to the Edwards family to straighten this out and, hopefully, it will fade from the news soon.

Cracks about $400 hair cuts, the timing and other even worse ones are not appropriate. My heart goes out to all of them.

Posted by: Sure Is Dark In Here | August 8, 2008 4:00 PM | Report abuse

As my late, great, faithful-to-the-end (so far as I know!) hubby, used to say, "Men are dogs" though some will stray like tom cats.

At least, he didn't leave his physically-ill wife like McCain did.

That seems at a glance to be the telling difference between Republican and Democratic politicians.

Posted by: jhbyer | August 8, 2008 3:59 PM | Report abuse

Funny how this woman was paid over $140k for video work for which she never did over the course of 4 months. She did "other" work instead.

That's a lot of $10 campaign contributions which the Edwards campaign bundled into hush money.

Or, as it was called once, pimping.

And we all know, pimping ain't easy.

Posted by: Campaign Finance | August 8, 2008 3:59 PM | Report abuse

Thank goodness for small blessings.

This wackadoodle ran for president and if successful would have been the iceberg and the Titanic of all politics.

Frankly, I'll do what I always do in November and vote but this is the final straw when it comes to trust. I have almost none.

From now on I'll resort to prayer.

Posted by: jato | August 8, 2008 3:59 PM | Report abuse

Mr.Wonderful is going to receive, the haircut of a life time from his wife.

Its called a scalping.

Posted by: Dashriprock | August 8, 2008 3:58 PM | Report abuse

THIS GUY IS SUCH A SCUMBAG, I HOPE HIS WIFE DOESN'T STAND WITH HIM WHILE HE TELLS THE WORLD HOW HE CHEATED ON HIS DYING WIFE. YOU KNOW THAT IS HIS BABY, WHAT A NASTY MAN. LET HIS FRIEND SAY HE IS THE FATHER. WHILE SHE LIVES IN N.C WHAT A SORRY MAN HE IS. II PRAY FOR HIS CHILDREN., EVEN THE ONE HE WON'T CLAIM

Posted by: helen hunter | August 8, 2008 3:58 PM | Report abuse

We don't even like this character in North Carolina. Why should anyone else?

Posted by: Hunter James | August 8, 2008 3:58 PM | Report abuse

Lets face it, if this had been a Republican it'd been on the front page for weeks. The Post is the Post - they protect the Dems - look how they buried the story on Detroit's mayor.

Posted by: muskrat | August 8, 2008 3:57 PM | Report abuse

Talk about an Inconvenient Truth. Attorney General Edwards-the most frightening three words to our judicial system.

What is it with Democratic wives? No guts?

Posted by: Take Him to the Cleaners | August 8, 2008 3:57 PM | Report abuse

Truly the most two faced man I ever saw.

Posted by: Lou | August 8, 2008 3:57 PM | Report abuse

I believe this is between the Edwards since he is not in public office. But to all of you McSenile supporters I would keep your mouths shut since McSenile did the same thing only he divorced his disabled wife to marry his old Paris Hilton.And you all think that McSenile has integrity. Old , poor white women from Indiana for Obama. Connie

Posted by: Anonymous | August 8, 2008 3:57 PM | Report abuse

Edwards is smart? No, Edwards is stupid.

Posted by: Mart | August 8, 2008 3:56 PM | Report abuse

This matter is really no one's business except for John and Elizabeth Edwards. Why don't you carrion birds in the MSM leave them alone?

Posted by: Patrick | August 8, 2008 3:56 PM | Report abuse

I am just sickened about the double standard of most Americans; on one hand they consider that their society is the most open minded in the world, ready to accept any flaws of anyone including your politicians and even the president of the USA. On the other hand, there is a trend to judge right away anyone’s private life. I am not liberal at all; I am a Catholic traditionalist who considers that only Our Lord may judge us. Even I am not a republican, as an old Austrian completely monarchist and had worked for Archduke Otto in the European Parliament, so you can imagine that I am not a “liberal” at all. But saying this, I must emphasize, if John Edwards had an affaire, which is not the first one of an American politician (many republicans had affairs as well), why should the press or the people condemn him. Furthermore, he isn’t running for any position now, so what’s the big deal to discuss in from of a camera something that occurred in the past. I had lived in the USA for many years, when comes to sex it is an idée fixe for many Americans, women can wear puritan dresses but behave not as a puritan in any way, the same for men. But what is important is not to be caught in fraganti, which was the case of Mr. Edwards. Please give me a break, and let people to fix their own problems with his wife in this case, if there is true love she may pardon him, nobody with the exception of Mrs. Edwards should be interested in this “case”, the Post cannot follow the yellow press, which enjoys destroying reputations. WE ARE HUMAN BEINGS NOT SAINTS OK.

Posted by: Clemens von Metternich | August 8, 2008 3:55 PM | Report abuse

I do not feel sorry for Elizabeth Edwards. She knew her husband was a lying, cheating scum but she campaigned for him because she wanted the power and prestige of being the first lady. I only feel bad for their innocent kids who are being raised by two unscrupulous people

Posted by: Jim Cummings | August 8, 2008 3:55 PM | Report abuse

For once, I agree with Tupac Goldberger, or whatever his hame is.

Posted by: WOw. | August 8, 2008 3:55 PM | Report abuse

Of course, all the posters who claim they "don't care" about Senator Edwards' affair, seem to be really concerned about Senator McCains' - which involved the woman who became his wife.

Posted by: Jobo | August 8, 2008 3:54 PM | Report abuse

I believe this is between the Edwards since he is not in public office. But to all of you McSenile supporters I would keep your mouths shut since McSenile did the same thing only he divorced his disabled wife to marry his old Paris Hilton.And you all think that McSenile has integrity. Old , poor white women from Indiana for Obama. Connie

Posted by: Anonymous | August 8, 2008 3:54 PM | Report abuse

The less I hear about other people's personal affairs, the happier I'll be.

Posted by: vmax02rider | August 8, 2008 3:54 PM | Report abuse

Sad for upright, outspoken, smart, brave, and plucky Elizabeth Edwards, who everyone in the nation admires. What a loss that she can't be a candidate for president--I suspect that she'd have made a fine one.

Sad also for the Edwards children, who will have to live with this memory of how their father treated their dying mother.

Toodaloo to John. Too bad, knowing that his wife had a terminal illness, he couldn't have put her first and waited until she was gone to start thinking about another woman. (Which, at the appropriate time, he certainly would have been able to find.) Now he's branded as a scumbag and snake (see the preceding posts), and so disappears from the political scene. Whatever his talents as a lawyer, he's out of the running as a VP (never really in consideration anyway) and as an AG (which would have been plausible).

All this means absolutely nothing for the Obama campaign unless Obama still wants to consider him for AG--which if he's smart he will definitely not do.

Let the Democrats honor Elizabeth, as they should, along with Ted Kennedy. John should make himself scarce.

Posted by: jm917 | August 8, 2008 3:54 PM | Report abuse

Now we know why he kept talking about "Two Americas"......he was referring to his dual-life as a cheating, lying, conniving, sorry excuse for a man.

Buh-bye "Breck Girl". 8-)

Posted by: JC | August 8, 2008 3:54 PM | Report abuse

//"I'am just amazed that he had an affair with a woman.

Posted by: ski | August 8, 2008 3:37 PM"//

Ha. Ann Coulter is, too. Seriously, are all men dogs?

Posted by: Sara B. | August 8, 2008 3:53 PM | Report abuse

I wrote a cheap shot like the other posts, then erased it. I feel kind of sorry for Mrs. Edwards. What is going on here? Are we, the faithful husbands, the chumps?

Luigi Barzani in his classic The Italians points out that the Code Duello fell into disuse because simple arithmetic shows that if half the men in Italy are having affairs, they must be having them with half the wives in Italy. If the resolution were by gun or sword, a large portion of the population would end up slaughtered. He was writing about Italy in 1960. Perhaps we have achieved that level of civilization now. Maybe we should just call it quits on flogging people for their sexual peccadilloes and just dig the idea that everybody else must be doin' it.

Posted by: PJTramdack | August 8, 2008 3:53 PM | Report abuse

At least he wasn't cruising a men's toilet to get his Johnson sucked. Poop and sex. How very Republican. And at least he wasn't preaching the Gospel while getting cornholed by a gay prostitute while doing crystal meth. And at least he wasn't a raging pedophile sending creeping instant messages to congressional pages. The list goes on and on.

It really begs the question why Christian conservatives hate the democrats when the GOP is really the Gay Old Party.

Posted by: Republicans Love Gay Sex | August 8, 2008 3:53 PM | Report abuse

Question the sincerity of the Edwards? How about the Clinton's?

A big Yawn! This would have gotten him elected in Europe! Here it gets you impeached.

America, grow up, get a life and worry about
what the PAC's and lobbyists are doing to your future!

Posted by: AV | August 8, 2008 3:52 PM | Report abuse

"As the ABC source puts it, "Edwards is smart. He's doing this on another network when everyone's going to be watching the Opening Ceremonies" on NBC."

YEAH HE'S REEEEAAAALLLLL SMART!

i know i'm switching my plans to watch the opening ceremonies for this soap opera bs.

R U F'IN KIDDIN"?

Posted by: mikeq1 | August 8, 2008 3:52 PM | Report abuse

To Christine:
re learning their lesson. When are we the voters ever going to learn that public people lie about their sex lives because the believe that it's not anyone else's business ? How about if every time you go to the voting booth, you have to write out all of the socially unacceptable acts you've committed in secret since the last election ? And then how about if afterward, the winner of the election gets to publish all these juicy details for all the rest of us to read ?

Posted by: rbe1 | August 8, 2008 3:51 PM | Report abuse

wonder if the GOP will be stupid enough to try and exploit this in the election. Would just open the door wide open to McCain's first marriage (and how it ended)...

Posted by: oscars2212 | August 8, 2008 3:51 PM | Report abuse

More shocking to me than the adultery is the illiteracy of the second sentence of the second paragraph in the news story.

Posted by: Elliott Zuckerman | August 8, 2008 3:51 PM | Report abuse

To Playa:......or Obama

Posted by: Nick | August 8, 2008 3:50 PM | Report abuse

Obviously this is personal and family matter and we should let Elizabeth, their kids and John to sort this out themselves. However, for all of you GOP “morally superiors”, let’s not forget, John McCain himself left his wife and kids while she needed him the most—physically broken and financially broke—for a rich bimbo. I don’t condone Mr. Edwards’s actions, but he is at least dealing with the situation as suppose to running off with a bimbo.

Posted by: Senile McSame | August 8, 2008 3:50 PM | Report abuse

Who cares? Who cares? Every American who saw this ambulance chaser and his lawyer wife LIE about an affair after the LAST Democratic President wagged his thumb at us and LIED about an affair. Oh, it's not like he was about to be named Attorney General. Yes, yes, he was. He still will push for trial lawyer influence in the next presumably Democratic administration, swearing that all the crooked trial lawyers in prison are innocent. Yes. America Cares. Obama flip-flops every five minutes and could be concealing God knows what. Bill Clinton lied on TV to our faces. And now Edwards, the last media darling, is lying to them with impunity for cheating on his dying wife. And the Democrats promise CHANGE? Chump Change, they presume. Outrageous.

Posted by: Scaly Justice? | August 8, 2008 3:50 PM | Report abuse

The comments linking Edwards behavior to his being a lawyer are beyond idiotic. His profession has nothing to do with this. You might as well link his hair color to the affair. Stupid.

I see no reason this should affect Obama. It's not his affair. Too bad John McCain doesn't have the luxury of denying his own affairs and scummy behavior.

Posted by: Jayne | August 8, 2008 3:50 PM | Report abuse

Political party has nothing to do with basic instincts. It's a male thing, stupid.

Posted by: Susan | August 8, 2008 3:49 PM | Report abuse

How has this affected the price of gas, or the cost of food? Has it in any way contributed to global warming? Has it caused any forclosures or forced any banks to fold? This is a very private matter between them and has no actual relevance except human titilation.

Posted by: sanbar216 | August 8, 2008 3:49 PM | Report abuse

I am a Republican, however I don't like to see this type of dirt dragged around in public either. The problem is, that if it is "the other side"that has some scandal,it is perfectly acceptable. Let's stop this political "I gotcha" game. I always thought John Edwards was a lightweight, but have tremendous respect for his wife. I guess now he has two women to go along with his two Americas.

Posted by: Nick | August 8, 2008 3:49 PM | Report abuse

Like several posters - WHO CARES.

You make a big deal about the main stream media not reporting on this but they have NEVER EVER reported all the McCains dirty laundry.

Facts: John McCain had an affair with Cindy while he was still married; calls his wife, and other women, ugly names in public; Cindy McCain was a former drug user who stole from her charity and only got treatment when caught; adopted a child but didn't tell her husband until the child was on her way here - this is public knowledge but not reported in the main stream media.

So let's not go down the family/moral values road.

Posted by: Who Cares | August 8, 2008 3:49 PM | Report abuse

Males do stupid things when lust is involved, whether he is a human being or another form of animal. This is a historical and biological fact. And once again, whatever one might think of Mr Edwards, extramarital affairs happen in this country and around the world and have happened for centuries. This is not news. Neither is his lying about it, which one would naturally do for self-protection. The frenzy over this situation, both in the media and from no-nothing commenters, could only happen in sex-obsessed America, where we insist on presidential candidates being as pure as the driven snow yet are thrilled when our favorite actors get hot and heavy and then move on to another partner. Having been through a similar situation in my own life a decade ago it has taken me some time to realize that (a) men do stupid things when the opportunity presents itself and (b) the situation is something that needs to be worked out privately between the long-term couple and not publicly in the news media. Because having had an affair does not make a man or a woman a bad person or unfit for office; affairs happen. It is the nature of the beast, and some people succumb to temptation and others do not. But try not to be holier-than-thou about it. Let's focus on the issues rather than what one does or does not do in bed. With or without one's significant other.

Posted by: Speaker of the House | August 8, 2008 3:48 PM | Report abuse

To those of you who think this isn't newsworthy:
I'm sorry, but it is. Cheating on one's spouse is commonplace, but it doesn't make it any less despicable. When the spouse is dying of cancer, it becomes that much more despicable. Since Edwards is a *public* figure by his own choosing with the potential to serve in high public office, his despicable behavior needs to be reported by a responsible media.

Posted by: newsworthy | August 8, 2008 3:47 PM | Report abuse

Yet another Christian pharisee! I remember Edwards in 2004 in Ssvannah, GA walking down Bull St. to Johnson Square to give a speech. He acted like Jesus entering Jerusalem!

Posted by: norman ravitch | August 8, 2008 3:47 PM | Report abuse

I was a Edward's supporter and I still believe he was the best candidate though now I support Obama. However, right now my heart goes out to his wife who is fighting a heroic battle and to his family. They now suffer public humilation. Too bad. Edwards had a bright future.

Posted by: Betty | August 8, 2008 3:47 PM | Report abuse

Why would someone running for the highest office in the land (or a sitting president, governor, or mayor) be so stupid as to risk his career for a tryst? Do they really think they won't get caught? (Not to mention their poor wives!)

Posted by: MDawg | August 8, 2008 3:46 PM | Report abuse

The Post's reputation is even more sullied than Edwards' ... since they covered up a story for weeks that everyone in America knew about.

It's really going to be a hoot hearing from the media over the coming weeks how there is no media bias or partisanship ...
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Posted by: gitarre | August 8, 2008 3:46 PM | Report abuse

George Bush, Dick Cheney and minions have been publicly doing to the country for nearly 8 years what John Edwards did to Rielle Hunter in private.

A private, 2-person tryst versus &$*%ing 300 million people.

Where's the sense of proportion?
Where's the outrage?

Oh, I forgot: outrage is the exclusive domain of Limbaugh-Hannity Dittoheads

Posted by: Private Parts | August 8, 2008 3:46 PM | Report abuse

The hypocrisy of the republicans is unbelievable; at least he is not gay. There are numerous rumours of McCain's affairs and he is a candidate. Let's see if that is going to come out. I feel very sorry for his wife and children and I hope they can keep their family together.

Posted by: Marcia | August 8, 2008 3:46 PM | Report abuse

If you're going to be a public figure (especially in politics), people are going to dig into your life. I admire a lot about John Edwards, but sometimes he displays really poor judgment. My heart goes out to Elizabeth and his family.

Posted by: Helena Montana | August 8, 2008 3:46 PM | Report abuse

I am not an Obama fan but how does this hurt Obama? Stupid projectional reporting... Can we ever have a real election in this country about the issues? The PEOPLE MAGAZINE mentality of this country is scary sometimes..

Posted by: tmw | August 8, 2008 3:46 PM | Report abuse

What a lying sack of ****. It's guys like him that give lawyers a bad name.

Posted by: Rick | August 8, 2008 3:45 PM | Report abuse

A large portion of the public has affairs, so why are politicians held to a higher standard? And almost everyone who gets caught having an affair lies about it at first. It's the natural reaction.

Let people live their lives for crying out loud. According to a Gallup poll just this past March 54% of us know people who are having affairs. Are they all scum too?

Posted by: Oh Really! | August 8, 2008 3:45 PM | Report abuse

What a disappointment. I voted for this guy twice. What a jerk.
Elizabeth should kick him to the curb.

Posted by: eyesopenedwide | August 8, 2008 3:45 PM | Report abuse

Very interesting. Bill Clinton didn't inhale, and John Edwards didn't love Rielle Hunter. Still, Edwards' hypocrisy doesn't even approach that of Strom Thurmond.
What does that tell you about Southern politicians?

Posted by: Charlie Gies | August 8, 2008 3:45 PM | Report abuse

I guess Newt's not the only one, eh? I dunno, this seems worse than that because of the public display of support and affection....

Posted by: Roll With Punches | August 8, 2008 3:45 PM | Report abuse

Before we all judge, consider this: It is conceivable that his wife was OK with the relationship for whatever personal reasons they may have shared. We just don't know. That said, I think it was also incredibly stupid to go out and campaign for the presidency with this knowledge. There was simply no way that it was not going to be exposed.

Posted by: Howard, NY | August 8, 2008 3:44 PM | Report abuse

All you folks who were ridiculing the Enquirer and saying it reports on space aliens (it doesn't), in the future I suggest you go to the Enquirer to find out what is really happening.

Posted by: quotidian | August 8, 2008 3:44 PM | Report abuse

Who cares? Only 'everything is news' makes this continue.

Posted by: tbt | August 8, 2008 3:43 PM | Report abuse


This information is totally irrelevant!

Posted by: Woody | August 8, 2008 3:43 PM | Report abuse

Just when I thought that just maybe there were some really good human beings with moral values actually running for public office these days . . . I should have known John was just too good looking, with too much money and too much power to be a faithful husband. I just hope Senator Obama has more control over his "basic instincts."

Single ladies, think twice before marrying a rich, powerful, fairly good looking man !

Posted by: Independent Idealist | August 8, 2008 3:42 PM | Report abuse

I am sick of so called news media snooping in everyone's sex life. Keep your nose in your own bedroom. I don't care if it's Edwards, Clinton, or Brittany Spears it's non news - just sleeze and it makes me feel so icky when I read it in a newspaper that claims to be a real publication instead of tabloid slime. I'm sure you'll add something to it to justify the filth factor.

Posted by: txajohnson | August 8, 2008 3:42 PM | Report abuse

I wish his wife and his kids the best

Posted by: ArlingtonHokie | August 8, 2008 3:42 PM | Report abuse

Shows how bias the media really is. It took the National Enquirer to produce the story, what a joke. Even though the media cheerleads for Obama and never asks him questions, he is still about tied in the polls w/ McCain. bawahhhha hahahahaha

Posted by: dick | August 8, 2008 3:42 PM | Report abuse

and another thing:

I want to repeat the question others have asked:

Who cares?? Who cares??? Who cares???

And...

who cares???

Posted by: mphillip | August 8, 2008 3:41 PM | Report abuse

It is between John and Elizabeth Edwards. PERIOD.

Posted by: S M. Watkins | August 8, 2008 3:41 PM | Report abuse

John Edward's was never really a contender and this story is just sad because it will bring pain to his family and serves no public good by going public now. Affairs happen regardless of political, religious, or class affiliation. Sad but true. However, sexual involvement with children (Foley), in public restrooms (Craig), or as harassment are not the same. Those acts are truly criminal. So the Republicans will gloat, our children will be exposed to more examples of adults who are incapable of living up to their vows and morals, and for what purpose? Because the media got a story too late to be of public value but too salacious to just let it go. I hope they enjoy themselves because airing this now is just unnecessary and self-serving.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 8, 2008 3:41 PM | Report abuse

I feel bad for the kids. They are the ones who will suffer the most. And that's too bad because they don't deserve a dying mother and dirtbag father. That's a tough life for little kids.

Posted by: Right POV | August 8, 2008 3:40 PM | Report abuse

Who cares? This sort of information is not useful or news. What people do in the privacy of their relationships has no bearing on me or my taxes or my retirement or gas prices or...the conflict in Iraq.. and on and on.

Posted by: Mary in MI | August 8, 2008 3:40 PM | Report abuse

Two Americas. Two women. Too much. Let's see what pathetic excuse the "trial lawyers" come up for this one.

Posted by: The Definition of Is Is Adultery | August 8, 2008 3:40 PM | Report abuse

This is going to leave a HUGE stain on the NoBama campaign. John Edwards was being considered for a cabinet position of possible Attorney General. Unethical behavior is a resume enhancement for Democrats.

Posted by: kmccorma | August 8, 2008 3:40 PM | Report abuse

stupid, stupid, absurd question:

Why do all roads - including JE's PRIVATE life - lead to Obama ("what impact will this have on the Obama campaign")???

Geez: Media have really scraped the bottom of the barrel this political season...

do you (WaPo) want it to have an impact?? Is this your way of generating "discussion" about the "impact?"

Stupid, stupidly dishonest and incredibly....(fill in blank) question.

Posted by: mphillip | August 8, 2008 3:39 PM | Report abuse

God bless Elizabeth Edwards.

Posted by: Mansfield Bob | August 8, 2008 3:39 PM | Report abuse

If a man is willing to betray his dying wife how can you trust him to do the right thing with the country? In theory maybe some superman can compartmentalize their life that way but humans usually can't. I don't see how being deceitful/dishonest in one part of your life would not carry over to the other.
BD

Posted by: bd | August 8, 2008 3:39 PM | Report abuse

what a JERK!

Posted by: Anonymous | August 8, 2008 3:39 PM | Report abuse

He said didn't love her and didn't father her kid. No harm, no foul, right?

Seriously though, this has no effect on the election, although it does throw his supposed push for an AG spot in the Obama cabinet in jeopardy.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 8, 2008 3:38 PM | Report abuse

What a disappointment. I had been a strong Edwards supporter throughout the campaign and had held out hopes of maybe an appointment as AG under Obama. Not now. Guess he's just another liar and a scumbag for messing around while his wife was sick. Im no prude and dont believe politicians need to be saints but if you are going to mess around, just get a divorce. I cant trust this guy anymore. What a disappointment.

Posted by: I M Zardoz | August 8, 2008 3:38 PM | Report abuse

Who cares? This country needs to get over its phobea with sex.

Posted by: dbax | August 8, 2008 3:38 PM | Report abuse

Corrupt politicians' sex scandals...It's always the men. How could he do that to his good wife Elizabeth!??

Posted by: briggs | August 8, 2008 3:38 PM | Report abuse

So Mr. "Pretty boy" is not so "squeekie clean" after all. God bless Elizabeth....she "stood by her man". And yes, petty low coming clean on the day of the opening of the Olympics.
Admittedly, he had me fooled....all that "love of my life" talk....oh well. Oh, and he says he didn't love her....and he's so happy w/Elizabeth....whyd'ja do it!!

Posted by: Barb | August 8, 2008 3:37 PM | Report abuse

Sad, just sad for the whole family, and really now that he's not a candidate for anything, is "our" interest anything more than prurient?

Posted by: HM | August 8, 2008 3:37 PM | Report abuse

Why does anyone care what someone does in the privacy or his/her life? Or is there to be no privacy any longer? It doesn't affect anyone in any way--except his family, his life and that should be kept private. This has no effect on me, my life, wishes, hopes, dreams, desires, politics, voting. It's simply not my--or your--or anyone's--business.

Posted by: GS | August 8, 2008 3:37 PM | Report abuse

I'am just amazed that he had an affair with a woman.

Posted by: ski | August 8, 2008 3:37 PM | Report abuse

Just like John McCain, John Edwards abandons his wife in a time of need for a younger woman. Real character these men have.

At least one candidate is a real dedicated family man.

Posted by: Elrod | August 8, 2008 3:37 PM | Report abuse

What is it about politicians and their genetalia? For heaven's sake people, put as much energy into your work as you do to sticking things in things and this country will be running like a fine Swiss watch

Posted by: Anonymous | August 8, 2008 3:37 PM | Report abuse

In the end its between John and Elizabeth Edwards. Marriages have survived and one prays their does.

What makes me mad is women hurting women. Did this Rielle Hunter EVER consider Mrs. Edwards or the three Edwards children?

And just as Mrs. Edwards was facing the return of her cancer...........

Posted by: MotherLodeBeth | August 8, 2008 3:36 PM | Report abuse

Oh those Democrats! If only they could enjoy the high celibacy of those ethical stalwarts like, say, Ted Stevens, Jesse Helms, or Jack Abramoff.

Posted by: dane1 | August 8, 2008 3:36 PM | Report abuse

Pretty appalling given the extreme stress that Mrs. Edwards must be under with her
recurrence of cancer diagnosis. I hope she dumps him but alas, he's a debater. He'll probably talk her out of it.

Posted by: Helena | August 8, 2008 3:35 PM | Report abuse

Why is this newsworthy? Every politician has secrets and/or scandals. That's sort of the definition of "politician." Get over this nonsense and focus on actual issues, people. This is an important election year.

Posted by: brandon | August 8, 2008 3:35 PM | Report abuse

Typical Democrat lying unti they get caught. Bill Clinton did the same thing until the "blue dress" was produced. When will William "cold cash" Jefferson finally admit he is a crook.

Posted by: kmccorma | August 8, 2008 3:34 PM | Report abuse

He's a trial lawyer.. what did you expect from a snake...

Posted by: vinhr1 | August 8, 2008 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Why is everyone so surprised? He ain't pretty for no reason. LOL. All politicians be ego-trippin' power trippin' or whatever you want to call it.

Posted by: What? | August 8, 2008 3:34 PM | Report abuse

He clearly doesn't love either woman.

Posted by: Gabe | August 8, 2008 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Who cares? In Europe, they laugh at us whenever we have these types of conversations. How is this relevant? Will this affect Obama's campaign? Are you kidding me? How on earth would this even remotely touch Obama's campaign? This is just laughable.

Posted by: Josh | August 8, 2008 3:33 PM | Report abuse

I am saddened and dissapointed that the affair occurred. It hasn't been that long ago that the Democrats had a President impeached not for having an affair but for lying about it. I would have hoped that former Senator Edwards would have learned his lesson.

Posted by: Christine | August 8, 2008 3:33 PM | Report abuse

Why is this the first mention of this story in the Post? This has been out there for weeks, but the mainstream media wouldn't touch it until ABC broke this wide open. Anyway, WHAT A HYPOCRITE!!! I guess this is what Edwards meant by two Americas: one with his wife and one with his girlfriend. Also, why should I believe Edwards when he says that the child is not his? I don't believe him.

Posted by: Sharon | August 8, 2008 3:33 PM | Report abuse

You mean us Republicans aren't the only ones wh@ring around? Well, at least he didn't "love her" so that makes it ok, right?

Posted by: BeowulfthePolitician | August 8, 2008 3:33 PM | Report abuse

Let's see: liar, adulterer, father of a bastard (who believes his denial on that one), hypocrite, cheater on a dying wife. And he was a lousy senator to boot. I understand he was a good ambulance chaser however.

Posted by: Martina | August 8, 2008 3:33 PM | Report abuse

I'm disgusted with John Edwards and what I regard as an amazing display of hubris. One does not even have to judge his behavior to know that America would. How could he risk running to be the Democratic nominee with this in his closet? Shame on his lack of dedication to a new Democratic administration.

Posted by: MIke Conboy | August 8, 2008 3:32 PM | Report abuse

I can't wait for that episode of Maury Povich. . .

Why isn't Obama's good standing as a family man more of a plus? Doesn't McCain have these skeletons in his closet?

Posted by: j4hr | August 8, 2008 3:32 PM | Report abuse

I don't care which party they are in, or which team they play for, as a married female what I want to know is why male politicians are so stupid and arrogant as to believe that they can engage in illicit sexual encounters and GET AWAY WITH IT.

Edward had no political future inside or out of NC even before this revelation. I thought he might make a good Attorney General, but no more. Its back to practicing law for him.

Posted by: Susan E | August 8, 2008 3:31 PM | Report abuse

WHATS COMMON BETWEEN EDWARDS and CHARLIE RANGAEL SCANDAL...

BOTH SCANDALS CAME OUT AFTER HILLARY LOST...

CLINTON PAYBACK TIME...WHY NO ONE IS REPORTING ON THIS

Posted by: ABC | August 8, 2008 3:31 PM | Report abuse

Why is it that tne National Enquirer is the media outlet that breaks this? Where is/was the MSM? What a slime for admitting this on Olympics eve to limit the damage done. Scumbag.

Posted by: dallenva | August 8, 2008 3:31 PM | Report abuse

Why is this newsworthy? Everyone knows that some men have a genetic flaw in their makeup. Why is he any different? I'm sure his wife knew and the entire matter should be between them. If memory serves, isn't adultery one of the Commandments?

Posted by: Sarah | August 8, 2008 3:30 PM | Report abuse

another lecturing leftist gets caught. not new people, they do it all the time.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 8, 2008 3:30 PM | Report abuse

How many Americans live in a glass house? From the puritanical way we judge politicians, it must be tens of millions!

I sure wish I could live in one. Anyone have any good ideas about it?

Posted by: manualman | August 8, 2008 3:30 PM | Report abuse

Oh my goodness, an extra-marital affair! Thank goodness neither I nor any of the posters here has ever engaged in such nefarious activities. And worse, he LIED! Scandal! I personally would never lie about sex, even if asked by a perfect stranger, nor would anyone I know. I mean, if you lie about sex, why, you might ... you might ... well, I forget.

Posted by: jad | August 8, 2008 3:29 PM | Report abuse

Oh my gosh Chris, you mean Woodduck is the last to know again ? It's too bad I could not whisper in the Duck's ear prior to the interview. Obviously Edwards is a closet republican.

I may watch the interview, frustrates me to see our tax dollars at work in Bejing. No offense to the Chinese but only Elitists and One-Percenters get to pursue happiness with their families now like EL Presidente'.

Our family size is now being limited through economic hardship (we can't all be like the Pitts, I could not give away pictures of my son when he was born).

Of course it seems that conservation of fossil fuels through profit did not work out, leads to recession, you know. And of course, public assets utilized for private capitalization also leads to negative growth in my world, like gasolene subsidies.

Goodnight and goodluck, let the games begin !!!

Posted by: Hank whatever | August 8, 2008 3:28 PM | Report abuse

Well , now we know why he wasn't big on being a vice presidential candidate, And I for one, am dissapointed, I still think you have great politcal beliefs, but your morals are offensive, and just like Clinton, inexcusable. Good guys really don't cheat on their wives, and vice versa.
Bad example for America. Bad example for our children. I'm sorry Senator Edwards, but you just should have restrained, or got a divorce if your marriage is so bad.
My condolences to Mrs. Edwards, and what the media will try to do to you.

Posted by: Therese | August 8, 2008 3:28 PM | Report abuse

Thank goodness he is not the nominee! There is no way that this would not have come out as an "October Surprise!"

I feel horrible for Mrs. Edwards.

Posted by: Marie | August 8, 2008 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Okay, I'm going to say this for the bazillionth time... I don't CARE about the sex lives of those in politics. I don't CARE! I want to know about what they do or hope to do while in office. That's it.

Posted by: Susan Strobel | August 8, 2008 3:25 PM | Report abuse

Typical Friday news dump.

As a Dem. I have no double standard. Confirmation shows he should be held accounatble and pay the price. Thank God it is not a boy as would be the case with GOP.

Posted by: Your Conscience | August 8, 2008 3:24 PM | Report abuse

So, Edwards is now a confirmed liar. Why are we to believe that he isn't the father of the child? As for his timetable and claim that the affair ended before he could have fathered the child, how does he explain his presence at the hotel two weeks ago?

I know that this is "tabloid journalism", but the Post spent quite a bit of ink on Larry Craigs airport foot tapping and even more on Congressman Foley's text messages. I would like to seem some independent verification of the "golden boy" and his actions.

Posted by: jimbo0625 | August 8, 2008 3:23 PM | Report abuse

It might may YOU think.
________________________

It's scary to think that this low life almost made it as prez or VP. It makes you think if there are any scandals that McCain is hiding?

Posted by: playa | August 8, 2008 3:20 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | August 8, 2008 3:22 PM | Report abuse

Are there any other private citizens, non-ofice holders, not running for office, in this country who have had an affair??

A public figure would be a different story.

Posted by: So? | August 8, 2008 3:21 PM | Report abuse

Wife dying of cancer, would-be President refuses to keep it in his pants. What a despicable creature.

Posted by: Tupac Goldstein | August 8, 2008 3:21 PM | Report abuse

It's scary to think that this low life almost made it as prez or VP. It makes you think if there are any scandals that McCain is hiding?

Posted by: playa | August 8, 2008 3:20 PM | Report abuse

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