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White House Cheat Sheet: Between Barack and a Hard Vote



President Obama is hoping that wintry weather is the only obstacle he faces Wednesday as the House takes up his economic stimulus package. (AP Photo/Ron Edmonds)

Rhetoric and political reality converge today for House Republicans as they weigh whether or not to vote in favor of President Obama's economic stimulus plan.

The vote is complicated by any number of political concerns for GOPers.

First and foremost, Obama is extremely popular among voters at the moment (his job approval rating stands at 68 percent in the most recent Gallup survey) and he has made very clear that this legislation is his number one priority and that he badly wants bipartisan support for it. (Meeting with House and Senate Republicans the day before a crucial vote is about as strong a signal as a president can send.)

"The statistics every day underscore the urgency of the economic situation," Obama said yesterday. "The American people expect action."

While the president kept up the public pressure on Republicans, privately White House aides argued that voting "no" carried considerable political peril for endangered GOPers as it would be cast as a vote against a plan that could create three million jobs.

Second, and of only slightly less importance, is the belief among many Republican strategists (and rank and file GOPers) that the losses at the House, Senate and presidential level over the last few years have been due in large part to an abandonment of the party's core principles -- most notably an emphasis on smaller government and limited spending.

With an $825 billion economic stimulus bill up for a vote in the House today, those two competing notions are headed for a head-on collision. How can Republicans avoid getting squeezed?

Their strategy -- as it emerged over the last 24 hours -- is to praise Obama's willingness to reach across the aisle while castigating House Democrats for writing a bill with no GOP input.

"Our nation is facing a serious economic crisis but the Democrats in Congress have offered a purely partisan bill that does not incorporate bipartisan recommendations," said Rep. Mike Pence (Ind.), the chairman of the House Republican Conference and a leading fiscal conservative in Congress.

Will the GOP differentiation strategy (Obama=good, House Democrats=bad) work? And how many "no" votes will be cast by House Republicans today? It's a fascinating early test of the political reach of Obama and the GOP leadership.

Sked Stuff: President Obama is making every effort to ensure the American public knows what is at stake in today's House vote on his economic stimulus package -- meeting with a group of CEOs at 10:30 a.m. at the White House and then making public remarks 45 minutes later on his financial plan. This bit of theater is all in advance of the vote and designed to remind voters and lawmakers how important this vote is to him.

News Nugget: Obama will make a pilgrimage to the Pentagon later this afternoon to huddle with Defense Secretary Robert Gates and top generals -- the commander-in-chief's first visit to the building since his swearing-in last week. Obama met with his military advisers on his first day in office to discuss Iraq and Afghanistan and this gathering is an extension of those early conversations. "That process that started at the beginning of this administration continues tomorrow at the Pentagon," said White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs at Tuesday's daily press briefing.

RNC Race (Remember That?): Amid all of the attention on the early days of the Obama Administration and today's vote on the economic stimulus bill, it would be easy to forget that in two days time 168 members of the Republican National Committee will choose its next chairman. Former Maryland Lt. Gov. Michael Steele's candidacy got a nice burst of momentum yesterday when former House Speaker Newt Gingrich (Ga.) Randy Evans, a top lieutenant to former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, released a letter in support of his candidacy, praising Steele as "the combination of voice, values and vision necessary to lead us to a better party." (The former House speaker will not endorse anyone in the RNC contest, his spokesman said Wednesday.) Conventional wisdom is that current RNC Chair Mike Duncan is still likely to lead after the first ballot but will be well short of the 85 votes needed to clinch the nod. At which point, all hell will break loose. Make sure to check this space in the coming days for much more on the RNC race and live coverage of the voting on Friday morning.

2012 Like It's Tomorrow: Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman may well be the most popular politician in the country. A new Deseret News/KSL-TV poll showed that 90 percent (not a typo) of Beehive State voters approve of the job Huntsman is doing. Huntsman told the paper he was "humbled and honored" by the ratings -- the highest for a Utah governor in more than a decade. The Fix sat down with Huntsman late last year -- just a month after he won a second term with 78 percent -- and the Utah governor sounded every bit a prospective 2012 presidential candidate. "People work with people," said Huntsman, echoing the rhetoric used by President Obama on the campaign trail. "Most Americans are fed up with the idea that partisanship has stood in the way of progress."

Senate Race Scuttlebutt: Rep. Jerry Moran starts as the frontrunner for the GOP Senate nod in Kansas, according to new polling done for his campaign. Moran, who has held the massive central-western 1st district since 1996, holds a 41 percent to 25 percent edge over fellow Rep. Todd Tiahrt in a poll conducted by Glen Bolger of Public Opinion Strategies. "While it is still very early in the primary campaign, it is currently a lot better to be Jerry Moran than it is to be Todd Tiahrt," Bolger wrote in the polling memo. Both men are seeking the seat being vacated by Sen. Sam Brownback (R) who is running for governor. Meanwhile in Florida, state Sen. Dan Gelber announced Tuesday that he will run for the Senate -- joining Rep. Kendrick Meek in the Democratic primary. Gelber, who gets rave reviews from smart Democratic operatives in Florida, and Meek are not likely to have the field to themselves as Reps. Allen Boyd and Ron Klein are looking seriously at the contest.

Speaking of the Senate...: Missouri Democratic Sen. Claire McCaskill is on the hunt for a chief of staff after watching Sean Kennedy depart for a gig in the legislative affairs operation at the White House. McCaskill was an early endorser of Obama's presidential campaign and is likely to play a major role over the next few years in shepherding Obama's agenda through the Senate. Just sayin'....

Say What?: "He knew very well what my intentions were." -- Kentucky Sen. Jim Bunning (R) scolding Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (also of Kentucky) for his alleged lack of knowledge about Bunning's 2010 re-election plans.

By Chris Cillizza  |  January 28, 2009; 6:00 AM ET
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Chris:

Rasmussen finds that 59% fear that Congress and the president will increase government spending too much. Only 17% worry they will cut taxes too much.

Posted by: JakeD | January 29, 2009 1:13 PM | Report abuse

Posted by JakeD:

"Hollow Victory

... Without a single Republican voting for the bill, his high-profile visit to Capitol Hill on Tuesday came to exactly naught - at least on the House side. [The remaining extremist stuff has been omitted]"
_________________
Boehner and the GOP are drinking Rush's Kool-Aid.

BHO put together a stimulus package to create jobs and get the country back on track. It may not be perfect, but at least it is a try. The GOP, on the other hand, has presented no counter-proposal, except suggest doing nothing, tax cuts for fat cats, or "trickle down" theories -- concepts that if they ever worked, certainly won't work now.

The "I hope Obama fails" banner of Rush and the GOP (not all GOPers, 'cause I doubt if the Powell/Hagel/Steele wing buy into this knownothingist, I've-got-mine-and-to-heck-with-you junk) is the flag of a losing army. Being negative is not a political strategy.

And JakeD, BTW, how come no one has ever seen you and "37thandOSt" in the same room at the same time? Come to think of it, the same goes for you and "dianne721." Never in the same room, at the same time. Could it be? --- naahhhh.

34, 35, 36, __, 38, 39

Posted by: broadwayjoe | January 29, 2009 10:22 AM | Report abuse

JakeD: you wrote "I'm sorry, but the Dems have been against "Trickle Down" every since Reagan proved it works. Nice try though."

It's "trickle up", my friend, because that is what's happened. In 2007 the top 1% of income earners (the $350,000-plus club) had a bigger share of the national pie than at any time since 1928. Same goes for the top 10%. Average incomes for the other 90% dropped slightly from the year before...
Wait a minute - wasn't 1928 followed by 1929? And 2007 by 2008? Ya think history's telling us something? Naah: Republicans in the 20s, Republicans in the 2000s, rising income gap in the 20s, rising income gap in the 00's, mega crash at the end of the 20's, ditto at the end of the 00's... Has to be all just coincedence. Republicans have St Ronald, so whatever they do must be right.

Posted by: archaeoman | January 29, 2009 12:52 AM | Report abuse

How typical of the right wing. JakeD sneers "$50 million for that great engine of job creation, the National Endowment for the Arts ..." Who needs art or artists, anyway? Other than perhaps to paint attractive-looking cereal boxes, to INCREASE SALES? Okay, JakeD, that's how we'll do things. We'll tell you folks that all the art that is produced will ultimately be used for selling things (maybe even avant-garde decorated Sham-wows?) That should gladden your bean-counting hearts ...

Posted by: hfisher1 | January 28, 2009 11:50 PM | Report abuse

I hope President Obama gives up on his bipartisan fantasy, the sooner the better. The republicans aren't interested in bipartisanship, they proved that beyond the shadow of a doubt when they held power. They simply did what they wanted, and to hell with the Democrats.

Well, it's time for paybacks. The republicans are the enemies of working people, always have been and always will be, so now that the Democrats are in power we should do our very utmost to trample the republicans into the dirt where they belong. We need to marginalize the republican b@stards and exclude them from decision making as far as possible. Let them go to their churches and gnash their teeth. They should not get another chance to wreck this country with their greed, as they have already succeeded in doing.

Tax breaks? The hell with that! We need to hike taxes powerfully on those who make a lot of money and REDISTRIBUTE it to the people who were injured by the machinations of the financiers, banks, and other republican miscreants. The greedy b@stards deserve a good whacking.

Posted by: hfisher1 | January 28, 2009 8:44 PM | Report abuse

Hollow Victory

... Without a single Republican voting for the bill, his high-profile visit to Capitol Hill on Tuesday came to exactly naught - at least on the House side.

Obama vowed to change Washington and usher in a new post-partisan era. The the mood music and optics were pitch perfect as he trekked up to the Hill. Republicans praised his gesture, welcomed his sincere demeanour and appreciated his willingness to listen.

Problem was, he wanted only to listen and did not want to act on what Republicans said. When he was asked if he would re-structure the package to include more tax cuts, he reportedly responded: "Feel free to whack me over the head because I probably will not compromise on that part."

He apparently added: " I understand that and I will watch you on Fox News and feel bad about myself."

That's fine. No doubt Obama will indeed get beaten up on Fox News. But his failure to get even the squishiest moderate Republican - including the 11 entertained in the White House by Rahm Emanuel last night - to back him is not merely a big score for Rep Eric Cantor, Republican Whip, and the rest of the GOP leadership.

It also shows that it is not just Fox, the loony Right or Rush Limbaugh - or however else you might want to characterise the opposition in order to marginalise it - who had grave misgivings about the content of the bill.

The Democratic leadership on Capitol Hill badly miscalculated by treating the bill as a victor's charter. Not that it seemed to bother Nancy Pelosi, Speaker of the House, who grinned from ear to ear as she announced the result of the vote.

Obama said yesterday he did not feel he had ownership of the bill. Be that as it may, if it goes through the Senate in similar fashion and is signed into law then - the efforts of Pelosio and Senator Harry Reid notwithstanding - it will be his and his alone.

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/toby_harnden/blog/2009/01/29/hollow_victory_republicans_deliver_slap_in_the_face_to_barack_obama

A 40-Year Wish List

"Never let a serious crisis go to waste. What I mean by that is it's an opportunity to do things you couldn't do before."

So said White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel in November, and Democrats in Congress are certainly taking his advice to heart. The 647-page, $825 billion House legislation is being sold as an economic "stimulus," but now that Democrats have finally released the details we understand Rahm's point much better. This is a political wonder that manages to spend money on just about every pent-up Democratic proposal of the last 40 years.

We've looked it over, and even we can't quite believe it. There's $1 billion for Amtrak, the federal railroad that hasn't turned a profit in 40 years; $2 billion for child-care subsidies; $50 million for that great engine of job creation, the National Endowment for the Arts ...

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123310466514522309.html

Posted by: JakeD | January 28, 2009 8:14 PM | Report abuse

11 brave Democrats joined all 177 Republican Representatives in voting NO. Hopefully, enough GOP Senators can educate enough Americans on what's wrong with this "Stimulus" Bill.

Posted by: JakeD | January 28, 2009 7:00 PM | Report abuse

Clueless Pelosi and Reid now have the Obama team directing them with the heavy hand of Rahm Emmanuel getting it done. I would like to see Republican senators try to use cloture, I don't think they can get 60 out of 61 to do it. Certainly there are good Republican leaders with good ideas, but they are currently few and far between. Evangelical creationists, Rove type of the connected, by the connected and for the connected must go before we become a one major party government.

Posted by: jameschirico | January 28, 2009 6:53 PM | Report abuse

The thing that no one seems to get about Americans is they took the advise and cut up the credit cards. They guard against people taking credit illegally from them.

Obama and the Nuts in Congress can try to charge all the debt they want to on Americans, on the day they want the money...it is not going to be there.

Why?
Americans are spending it on themselves and their neighbors.
The Federal Government has made it's self as defucnt and moot in this Country as the slimey bamks are.

This is a Country run by the people.It began over taxation without representation.
We are a Nation that wants the Constitution as it was written.

Kooks come and go from Washington with big backers, but if the people refuse to disband as a Nation no one is going to break the cohesive American.
Today the glue is football.
Touch downs beat Obama and the Congress.

There is no crisis to fund....except in an Acorn's head.

Posted by: dottydo | January 28, 2009 6:52 PM | Report abuse

TheBabeNemo,
FYI
Reagan has been the only president to leave office popular.

It is American to hate the Congress and President.

Smart Presidents say little, they stay popular longer.
They are not swift with the pen, because they understood backlash and business.

Obama's honeymoon is over.
He did three major blunders in one week.

#1 He opened his mouth
#2 He signed something
#3 He put "Country First" allegiance by speaking to Islam.


It is done, he isn't hated for the 800b Pelosi melting witch idea, he already had that accolade.

Do you know why we were out of Vietnam?
People refused enmasse.

Same with the tax plan wallet dipping.
Enmasse people will not pay for Pork.

700b pissed people off, and this new plan will get the same money that the last one was going to get.$0.00

Posted by: dottydo | January 28, 2009 6:41 PM | Report abuse

650 million to help people to go digital is in the bill. 24 inch digital TVs go for about $150. The old on fixed income will probably be the greatest reciprients.

Posted by: jameschirico | January 28, 2009 6:29 PM | Report abuse

broadwayjoe,
The only people inserting themseolves in polls are idots at Acorn hoping for the Gold rush.

Real America is working for cash, and out to eat and shop at businesses with pretend going out of business sales.

Unlike Acorn nut gatherers, America has one thing on their minds, getting the RV's and grill recipes ready for the Super bowl.

Obama thought everyone was celebrating him, but 85% of America was only into the playoffs, on his 8 ball day.

Posted by: dottydo | January 28, 2009 6:28 PM | Report abuse

"Good news! The House has just defeated a bill to postpone the upcoming transition from analog to digital television broadcasting by four months to June 12.

House Republicans succeeded in scuttling a bill to delay the transition, which is scheduled for Feb. 17, less than two days after the Senate unanimously passed the plan.

The defeat is a setback for the Obama administration and Democrats on Capitol Hill, who fear too many Americans are not ready for the switchover.

Posted by: JakeD | January 28, 2009 2:23 PM"
______________

Uh, yeah, that's great news, JakeD. Just terrific. Now hundreds of millions of Americans, including the poor, the aged, and the disabled who are less likely to be digital-ready, will have their television reception cut off. For some, TV is a critical lifeline for information about weather, schools, health, etc. It's not a setback for BHO or the Dems; it is setback for all Americans who aren't ready for the switchover. JakeD, sure you're not related to Dianne721 or 37andO? Hey, JakeD, maybe they'll block Clean Air and Clean Water legislation. Wouldn't that really hurt BHO?

Posted by: broadwayjoe | January 28, 2009 6:19 PM | Report abuse

mobyminnow,

Republicans would not vote in Mc Cain because he was not born on US soil, and is only a Naturalized American. They probably saved him from the gallows, because it is treason to breech the US Constitution.

The sentence is death for treason isn't it?


When people try to play ACORN and CHI-town Southside politics, they may be only the mouse in a bigger game.

Nothing in the USA stays a secret forever.

If Obama thinks people are going to fork over tax dollars to the feds PORK he is dreaming.

Taxation without representation is illegal here.
chi-town is no match for under the table business.
Not when the wise guys are doing it too.

Posted by: dottydo | January 28, 2009 6:13 PM | Report abuse

Hey GOP, we'd rather you spend our tax dollars to create 3 million jobs, fix the mall, and heck -- even pay for contraception -- before we want another dime go into the pockets of Citibank, BOA and the rest. And when I heard today the BOA was taking some of their TARP money and donating it to conservative groups gearing up to fight pro-worker legislation, that was the final straw. Bring on the NEW New Deal!!!

Posted by: GoodScout | January 28, 2009 6:07 PM | Report abuse

GREAT Photo

The depiction of the death of the American wallet is depicted well in the photograph.

Americans said no to the 700b....Washington did not listen

Americans said no to this new plan....


The people of this Country will not bank any longer with the ones that were in on the first 7oob rip off.
Federal banks have no rules and are criminal in their treatment of us.


Local investments are overtaking the Housing industry.
Communities are being bought by American with money and being sold to Americans being abused by the now defucnt CREDIT RATING system.

Optomism and wealth have returned to States.

After little Timmy Al Capone Geither's appointment the Americans have a new Messiah to follow.

Companies that used to hire illegals under the table taught a great lesson. Now layoffs grant unemployment insurance as a bonus while employees still work.

By passing all the tax codes with cash is like tea in the Harbor.


This federal government is leading no one as "the spector of a dead wallet" passes by, doors are closed.

Posted by: dottydo | January 28, 2009 5:57 PM | Report abuse

okay, off to read HR1 if I can.

don't forget to call your banks for their "renegotiation policy" folks.

and also,
you can't always get what you want
but if you try sometimes
you get what you need

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | January 28, 2009 5:51 PM | Report abuse

I hope Rush and Hannity are still broadcasting in 2012. Their antics are worth 2-3 million votes for the dem candidate

Posted by: farned46 | January 28, 2009 5:36 PM | Report abuse

Enough of the griping about neocon media pundits spouting outrageous comments. Bringing it up, complaining, only gets them free interviews and more market share. Leave them their less than 30% of people, they being Evangelicals and good ol boys. They will decline far faster when you keep your thoughts to yourself.

Posted by: jameschirico | January 28, 2009 5:28 PM | Report abuse

let's all think of Rolling Stones' songs for Chris to use

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | January 28, 2009 5:20 PM | Report abuse

"BHO has brilliantly made Rush--a bloated, bloviating hate broadcaster--the new face of the GOP."

Too true, except it wasn't Obama's doing -- the neocons are claiming the GOP back from the corporate-ocrats.

Unbelievable, huh? The Republicans achieve their worst loss in many a year and decide that it happened because they just weren't stubborn enough.

And now they're going to find their own African-American to head the RNC. That'll bring the minority vote over in droves.

Posted by: Samson151 | January 28, 2009 5:18 PM | Report abuse

Lots of Repulsives are of the "greatest generation" in their thinking and application of morales/values/morays.
I know it sounds cold but the greatest generation is passing, they are just about gone, and I am glad.
I am sick of the "old ways" and what they call "the bow ties of Washington D.C"
You know, Reagan was not God. The best line he ever came out with was "trust but verify".
He had Alztheimers at the time of his re-election to second term. Anyone who knows anything about the White House with Reagan years, know that it was the "Nancy Administration" for the last 4 years. Nothing went by Ronnie without hitting Nancy first, because Ronnie had lost it by his second term.

Republicans are great at "this is the way we have done it for years" and therefore, it is correct!
And if Rush is the new spokesman for Repulsives, OMG, we all need 4 percocettes.

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | January 28, 2009 5:18 PM | Report abuse

Have you ever seen Bruce Wayne and Batman in the same room, at the same time?

Clark Kent and Superman?

Don Diego de la Vega and Zorro?

"37andOStreet" and "JakeD"?

"Dianne721" and "JakeD"?

Richard Speck and "JakeD"?

Posted by: broadwayjoe | January 28, 2009 5:16 PM | Report abuse

It's tough to be a GOP legislator right now. You've got to look like you want America to come out of the recession while at the same time doing your level best to prevent it, lest you lose your base. All the while pretending that it wasn't you and your GOP cohorts who got us into the mess in the first place.

Let me tell you, it's stressful.

Posted by: Samson151 | January 28, 2009 5:14 PM | Report abuse

BHO has brilliantly made Rush--a bloated, bloviating hate broadcaster--the new face of the GOP.

By doing that BHO has marginalized the party as a limited regional (5-state) movement (see below) appealing to the Yahoos and idiots who were hooting and hollering at Phalin hate rallies (did they ever get medical help for the AA stage worker who sometimes, no, always seemed to get the snot beaten out of him at the end of the rally, allegedly?).

And BHO has successfully caused GOP opposition to his stimulus package to be viewed as opposition to job creation and economic recovery. The GOP had the chance to make Hagel or Powell or Steele the face of the party but they picked el Rush-bo. The error of this GOP strategy is discussed in the following excellent post from HuffPo--

"Gallup Poll: Only 5 Republican states in USA
by Red no more
Wed Jan 28, 2009 at 11:39:36 AM PST
Or, you could call this "What will a 50-state strategy buy?"

Utah, Idaho, Wyoming, Alaska and Nebraska. That's it. And even Nebraska gave one of its electoral votes to Barack Obama.

According to the Gallup poll out today, only these 5 states have a statistically significant majority who self-identify as Republicans. Stunning, just stunning. As a former Republican myself, I could certainly see this coming as every rational, intelligent and moral person was pretty much driven screaming from the party.

Ten more states are toss-ups. So much for the permanent Republican majority, I guess!"

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/1/28/141534/066/500/690045

Posted by: broadwayjoe | January 28, 2009 5:05 PM | Report abuse

Chris, it's still not entirely clear why the GOP has suffered so inexorably since the 2006 elections. It abandoned core principles to be sure, but that alone does not explain the party's decisive rout this time.

Was John McCain's militaristic attitude and answer for everything in the presidential campaign all that the current GOP is about? Are the moderates in that party so weakened that they must do the ideologues' bidding or hit the road?

I don't see the GOP making a timely comeback, if the answers to those questions are "Yes and yes."

Posted by: 321j | January 28, 2009 5:05 PM | Report abuse

I agree with mibrooks27. We must PUT A STOP TO OUTSOURCING and the granting of H1-B visas! India is waging economic warfare against the workers of the United States, and in this they are ably assisted by traitorous U.S. corporations in their race to the bottom. We do not benefit from selling our jobs to India, the only ones that benefit are the fat-cat corporate b@stards while American technical people go jobless. It should be one of the conditions of PUBLIC ASSISTANCE (= "bailout") that OUTSOURCING IS PROHIBITED, altenatively, goods and services that are the result of outsourcing should carry a heavy tariff that would benefit the workers who have gotten screwed out of their jobs by greedy American business people - the same who ripped off the public and caused the financial meltdown. These sh!t-birds are happy to pay Indians peanuts for the work that used to be done by American engineers and computer programmers. IT IS A LIE when the corporations claim that there are not enough technical people here for the available jobs. The people are here, but demand better salaries and working conditions than the low paid, teeming Indian ants who are easily replaceable. OUTSOURCING SHOULD BE CRIMINALIZED! We do not benefit from having rich businessmen when everyone else is poor. Or does anybody with half a brain want Third World conditions here at home? But the businesspeople and their Republican water carriers would love just that, the filthy criminals that they are.

Posted by: hfisher1 | January 28, 2009 4:41 PM | Report abuse


I just don't understand...

They are trying to "clean up the banks balance sheets" to restore CONFIDENCE in the system??

WTF???

How are going to restore confidence by dumping the banks lossses in the TAXPAYER'S LAPS?!! This is unconstitutional and CRIMINAL!!!!!!

They are plundering our country blind!!


WHERE are the nation-wide protests???

Posted by: misssymoto | January 28, 2009 4:30 PM | Report abuse

I have to say Obama isn't being specific enough. I want change but am unsure what he's actually proposing? HOUSE Dems. are fools, NANCY et.al and Reid couldn't sell me life, if I was dying. Durbin still asks for a GOP jailed GOV. from here in Il. to be released even tho his actions killed 13 children. Can't stand most of them except Sanders and Fiengold -real folks who actually care. Watch them and read what they supprt. They said NO so far on Bush stimulus and Obama's as well. Neither does anything for US the -Taxpayer.

Let senators/Reps. give up or INCLUDE US in ALL health and penion benefits they receive .......after all they WORK FOR US!

Posted by: crrobin | January 28, 2009 4:29 PM | Report abuse

Exactly, Jake. You can pick one of several:

(a) Hillary Rodham Clinton
(b) Hillary Diane Rodham

She has never been known by Hillary Diane Clinton. It just doesn't make sense. One's a maiden (yes, given) name. One's a married name. You might as well call her Diane Rodham Clinton.

BB

I'll admit that she could have gone the non-hyphenation route. In which case, it's Hillary Diane Rodham Clinton.

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | January 28, 2009 4:24 PM | Report abuse

This "stimulus" plan is a cruel joke. It does absolutely nothing of relieve the plight of ordinary people, and, instead, tosses money at banks and government, bloating even further the damage these blood sucking ticks inflict on us. How many of you are aware that a part of this "stimulus" package will DOUBLE the number of H1-B workers to more than 400,000 this year alone? That, at a time when more than 3 MILLION U.S. computer programmers and engineers are UNEMPLOYED!!!!

Posted by: mibrooks27 | January 28, 2009 4:09 PM | Report abuse

I loved - loved these results.

Duke --- 85
Maryland --- 44

Boston College -- 76
Maryland -- 67

Prediction:

Miami -- 87
Maryland -- 58

Maryland will finish with a 15 - 16 record

No NCAA bid

No NIT bid

How can any parent, let their son play for a program like Maryland - with a 10 % graduation rate.

Carolina blue - Carolina WHITE - Go Tar Heels ! - Let's go Tar Heels !

Posted by: hclark1 | January 28, 2009 4:09 PM | Report abuse

JakeD have you moved to Wasilla yet? Obama did hear the Republican side, the neocons got the deaf ear while the Lugars, the Richards and the Snowes may have something to enhance his governing. Trickle down never worked and Bush41 waited too long to end voodoo economics giving Clinton the economic turnaround. People don't want tax breaks, they want a good job with benefits. Obama's team is now looking at closing the loopholes which give corporations a 12% tax. Tailoring business tax cuts to the mom and pop entities is the best way to create jobs with benefits (tax credits for employee coverage). Giving Wal-Mart millions to build another factory in China and have it's workers on food stamps is folly. Idiot Republicans think contraceptives are evil. Can you imagine people having ten kids they can't support, I can't.

Posted by: jameschirico | January 28, 2009 4:05 PM | Report abuse

I don't know that being nice to Obama is a "strategy" so much as it is just a natural reaction to having someone listen to you when he didn't have to.

Posted by: davestickler | January 28, 2009 4:04 PM | Report abuse

heck, i wish this part was enacted like 3 years ago when I whistleblew on my own State government:
SEC. 1243. PROTECTING STATE AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND CONTRACTOR WHISTLEBLOWERS.

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | January 28, 2009 4:00 PM | Report abuse

Well, some people just don't understand the concept of "Who moved my chesse"

Republicans are mistaking Obama niceness for weakness

C'mon 2010 -

We already looking to replace one of those ankle bending repubs in our state

Posted by: danson1 | January 28, 2009 3:55 PM | Report abuse

I think that the Republicans should show their disdain for this bill by refusing any funds offered through the bill to their respective states. That would show those Democrats! Then they should try to get reelected.

Posted by: garoth | January 28, 2009 3:50 PM | Report abuse

The GOP prefers taxes off for Bernie Madoff rather than seeing Average Joe Made Whole.

Posted by: twstroud | January 28, 2009 3:46 PM | Report abuse

Considering our Country is currently sitting on the abyss and our economy in the toilet I cannot believe that people still think the GOP'S so called "ideas" are relevant? Why do you think were in this mess? Because of Bush and the boys, they decided to show up three days a week, rubber stamp everything and let the CEO'S and Corporations run amok. Now we have some common sense people trying to help correct the situation and they want to go back to the same old crap they've been pushing for the last fifty years! Thanks but no thanks, the people spoke loud and clear in this election and they weren't saying they wanted more of the same!

Posted by: sfilutze | January 28, 2009 3:40 PM | Report abuse

OldCoot1:

Do you see now?

Posted by: JakeD | January 28, 2009 3:38 PM | Report abuse

Now Jake I did not go through this entire economic recover package. It is something that needs to be read - but I notice that much of this package covers the first two examples of the GOP recommendations. It doesn't read much different than what you wrote down. I believe that its the third part that the GOP is stuck on.

Tax relief for middle class is long overdue. Neither GOP or DEM are at odds here. From what I am hearing, it the spending part that troubles the GOP. However, what are the alternatives to the spending part of the package that the GOP is putting forth?

Here is the link to the economic recovery stimulus plan. http://www.mahoney.house.gov/index2.php?option=com_content&do_pdf=1&id=363

From the way I am reading this looks like it is still a work in progress. So, I would think the GOPpers could jump in with an idea - providing that it is workable.

Posted by: Tuathe | January 28, 2009 3:26 PM | Report abuse

What an doof. Obama thinks a window is a door...wow, how stupid can he be.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2009/01/28/2009-01-28_hey_bam_thats_not_the_door.html

Posted by: ChangeWhat | January 28, 2009 3:22 PM | Report abuse

"I'm sorry, but the Dems have been against "Trickle Down" every since Reagan proved it works. Nice try though."

I'm sorry, but there is no "proof" (from Reagan or anyone else) that "trickle down" "works." Nice try though.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | January 28, 2009 3:21 PM | Report abuse

there is a section on GRANTs.
A "snooze you lose your money" part.
And then there's this part:
SEC. 1114. REQUIRED PARTICIPATION IN E-VERIFY PROGRAM.

None of the funds made available in this Act may be used to enter into a contract with an entity that does not participate in the E-verify program described in section 401(b) of the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996 (8 U.S.C. 1324a note).

OH YEAH BABY.....get ready Arizona.
We made it state law two years ago (Fair and Legal Workers Act-Part One);
then one year ago, independent contractors (Air conditioning, landscaping, etc) griped and groaned, so AZ took independent contractors OUT of the the Fair and Legal Workers Act-Part Two.
HA HA..... it's federal now Arizona. Best get your ducks in a row now !!

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | January 28, 2009 3:20 PM | Report abuse

You're welcome.

Posted by: JakeD | January 28, 2009 3:20 PM | Report abuse

"You are thinking about a DIFFERENT birth control provision that, I believe, has been dropped."

You are correct, I realize the mistake now. Thanks.

Posted by: Jacksoneem | January 28, 2009 3:17 PM | Report abuse

An interesting article related to one of the arguments in this chat:

http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/2009/01/28/health_stimulus/

Posted by: Jacksoneem | January 28, 2009 3:16 PM | Report abuse

Jacksoneem:

You are thinking about a DIFFERENT birth control provision that, I believe, has been dropped.

Posted by: JakeD | January 28, 2009 3:16 PM | Report abuse

BB:

This is, indeed, her given MIDDLE name.

Posted by: JakeD | January 28, 2009 3:13 PM | Report abuse

rawreid:

I'm sorry, but the Dems have been against "Trickle Down" every since Reagan proved it works. Nice try though.

Posted by: JakeD | January 28, 2009 3:12 PM | Report abuse

Not just ACORN would be in line to receive these funds. Other “nonprofit entities or consortia of nonprofit entities” will be lining up with their hands out. And for what purpose? What exactly does “neighborhood stabilization” mean?

It means the federal government is about to give a huge amount of money to the very same people who helped get us in this mess in the first place. ACORN could now profit from the crisis by purchasing foreclosed homes for a song and selling them at a tidy profit - ensnaring more luckless victims in their mortgage scams.

Posted by: seawolfR | January 28, 2009 3:11 PM | Report abuse

"I would submit that Obama is not legally President."

Again and again and AGAIN and again...

P.S. That's not Hillary's name (even absent the mis-spelling). You can pick either Hillary DIANE Rodham or Hillary Rodham Clinton. Mixing maiden and married names is foolish. Not that that ever stopped you before.

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | January 28, 2009 3:10 PM | Report abuse

(4) not less than $335,000,000 shall be used as an additional amount to carry out domestic HIV/AIDS, viral hepatitis, sexually-transmitted diseases, and tuberculosis prevention programs What's the stimulus in that?

This money would trickle down to the manufacturers of vaccines, diagnostic tests and medicines, and the doctors and nurses who administer them; to the gasoline and gasoline taxes that are used by the patients who visit doctors, clinics and hospitals to receive treatment, to the restaurant workers who serve these patients their lunch when they go to receive treatment, to drug stores and pharmacies and on and on.

Almost all spending does trickle down through many different channels to the working class people. Even the spending of the 'upper 1%' who buy yachts, luxury autos and McMansions--but not necessarily to the American working class. Yachts may be made in Greece; luxury autos in Europe and mcMansions built by illegal immigrants but even then some money trickles down--to marina owners and operators, deck hands, boating accessory manufacturers and sellers, gas stations, auto repair shops, furniture salesmaen, repair people . . . The only 'spending' that doesn't trickle down much below the 'upper 1%' is money invested in the stock market or stashed in CDs and other rat-hole hiding places.

Posted by: rawreid | January 28, 2009 3:08 PM | Report abuse

oh man alive, i am going to have a blast with HR1.
lunch is almost over but get this one Jake....
-----
SEC. 1112. ADDITIONAL ASSURANCE OF APPROPRIATE USE OF FUNDS.

None of the funds provided by this Act may be made available to the State of Illinois, or any agency of the State, unless (1) the use of such funds by the State is approved in legislation enacted by the State after the date of the enactment of this Act, or (2) Rod R. Blagojevich no longer holds the office of Governor of the State of Illinois. The preceding sentence shall not apply to any funds provided directly to a unit of local government (1) by a Federal department or agency, or (2) by an established formula from the State.

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | January 28, 2009 3:06 PM | Report abuse

Also a few people mentioned the money slotted for STD prevention as an argument against the bill, but from what I've read that has already been dropped at the behest of the President.

Posted by: Jacksoneem | January 28, 2009 3:04 PM | Report abuse

"Democratic stimulus package wil provide up to a whopping $5.2 billion for ACORN, the left-leaning nonprofit group under federal investigation for massive voter fraud..."

What you're refering to is 4.19 billion alloted to "neighborhood stabilization activities". Which would be opened up to non-profits, an example of which would be ACORN. The money isn't specifically allotted to ACORN.

Posted by: Jacksoneem | January 28, 2009 3:01 PM | Report abuse

jake...going to try and pull it up here.

I saw the post. Small business --less than 500. What about the ones that are less than, say 50???? The true mom and pops.
Below is an excerpt from another article on WaPo.....which hits on the actual foreclosing tragedy:

The Fed will seek to renegotiate mortgages it owns that might otherwise enter foreclosure, Chairman Ben S. Bernanke told congressional leaders in a letter yesterday. The decision won praise from congressional Democrats, who took it as a sign that the central bank's leaders are cooperating with efforts to use government power to try to stem the number of foreclosures.
It is unclear how many homeowners stand to benefit. Under the program, the Fed can reduce what a homeowner owes on a mortgage, lower the interest rate, lengthen the term of a loan or take other steps to keep a loan from defaulting, if doing so would offer taxpayers a better long-term payoff than foreclosure. Individual borrowers are unlikely to know whether their mortgages are owned by the Fed, but if they qualify for a renegotiation, they would deal only with their mortgage servicer.
The Fed is emphasizing reducing the amount of principal owed by people at risk of foreclosure, particularly those with a loan balance that is more than 125 percent of the estimated value of their property. Private lenders have been reluctant to renegotiate loans that way, as some of the institutions that own those loans, in the form of mortgage-backed securities, stand to lose money and therefore object.

-----I am sure they do object. I think every American who is facing foreclosure...get on the horn to your bank and see what kind of "RENEGOTIATING POLICY" they now have. Remember, 317 banks in 14 states got money yesterday!!
CALL YOUR BANK AMERICA !!

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | January 28, 2009 3:00 PM | Report abuse

Democratic stimulus package wil provide up to a whopping $5.2 billion for ACORN, the left-leaning nonprofit group under federal investigation for massive voter fraud...

Posted by: seawolfR | January 28, 2009 2:54 PM | Report abuse

Stupid Congress tricks. The Repukes mewl about not being let to hold the ball after they lost the game (elections). They were in charge for eight long years and all they could do was borrow and spend on nauseating right-wing projects that enriched the already rich. Tradition and baseless ideology above all! And Rush "hopes" that Obama fails. I guess that means, after we become a Chinese colony of peasants, Repukes can be the collaborators and capos in the labor crews.

Posted by: BlueTwo1 | January 28, 2009 2:51 PM | Report abuse

TheBabeNemo:

Please review #1-3 (below). Maybe during lunch you can look into some talking points for that too?

Posted by: JakeD | January 28, 2009 2:50 PM | Report abuse

i am a bit more worried about the "ma and pop" companies that are falling.

white house press conference is going on, as we speak

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | January 28, 2009 2:47 PM | Report abuse

there is no repulsive alternative.

now why did the house vote the digital transition down?

i think i am seeing a pattern already.
hmmm...for every ONE bill we MUST vote yes on (based on backlash or scrutiny), we will get you back and veto the following bills????

tit for tat????

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | January 28, 2009 2:40 PM | Report abuse

"I'd rather see this "President" fail and the country succeed."

Maybe in your rightwingnut dreamworld you can envision such a scenario, but if the country succeeds in recovering from the misery of the Bush years, Obama will get the credit and you'll be left with your thumb up your butt, crying to mommy.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | January 28, 2009 2:39 PM | Report abuse

eheath1, bravo! A most excellent comment.

Posted by: officermancuso | January 28, 2009 2:39 PM | Report abuse

Tuathe (you didn't read down far enough):

1) Immediate Tax Relief for Working Families

The fastest way to get money back into the pockets of working families is to lower taxes, allowing them to keep more of what they earn. The two lowest tax rates in the U.S. are 10 percent and 15 percent; 45 million married couples and 13.5 million heads of households pay at the 10 percent rate while nearly 40 million married couples of 7.7 million heads of households pay at the 15 percent rate. House Republicans propose lowering these tax rates from 15 percent to 10 percent and from 10 percent to 5 percent, which will immediately put money where it will do the most good: in the hands of working families. Under our proposal, every taxpaying-family's gross income will increase by $500 for those in the current 10-percent bracket and $1,200 for those in the current 15-percent bracket.

2) Help for America's Small Businesses

Small businesses (those employing less than 500 individuals) employ about half of all Americans and in 2005, they created nearly one million net new jobs – or, put another way, small businesses that created 78.9 percent of all new jobs. Yet these economic engines can pay up to 35 percent of their income in taxes to the federal government. The U.S. is ranked 29 out of 30 among the major economies in the world for our business tax rate; only Japan taxes its companies more harshly. House Republicans propose allowing small businesses to take a tax deduction equal to 20 percent of their income, which will immediately free up funds to retain current employees and hire new ones.

3) No Tax Increases to Pay for Spending

Congressional Democrats' proposal includes record levels of government spending that will substantially increase the current deficit. House Republicans are concerned that this level of spending will result in some proposing near-term tax increases on American families. In fact, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) was recently quoted in the Washington Post stating that she'd like to see tax hikes "as soon as possible" (1/8/2009).

House Republicans are insisting that any recovery package include a provision precluding any tax increases now or in the future to pay for this new spending. House Republicans believe that any spending should be paid for by reducing other government spending, not raising taxes.

Posted by: JakeD | January 28, 2009 2:38 PM | Report abuse

DonJasper:

It is 'NEW' for this year.

mbmclaughlin:

I'd rather see this "President" fail and the country succeed.

Posted by: JakeD | January 28, 2009 2:34 PM | Report abuse

Timing is everything. As all the wisest observers have pointed out, we are sailing in uncharted waters and failure is certainly a possibility, esp. in rescuing the banks from themselves. But, politically, "failure is not an option." This too is true, as the costs of such a failure would be a world depression and massive political instability. I know that many of the more reactionary comment posters are hoping for such a failure, as it would tickle the erogenous zones of their wizened Fascist souls. The ideological hatred of liberalism is really a hatred for a rational and humane life, which is always messy and filled with compromises. Obama's great strength are his liberal instincts. One hopes that he's also tough enough to realize that a relentless hatred will follow him for the rest of his life, especially if he's successful. The rancid political pathologies that screamed at Roosevelt have never gone away. They form the core of Republican ideology.

Posted by: eheath1 | January 28, 2009 2:34 PM | Report abuse

I've posted the GOP Alternative Plan on the other thread:

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/thefix/2009/01/nv-sen_hammering_harry.html

Posted by: JakeD | January 28, 2009 12:40 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Ok! Let's discuss the GOP alternatives. What are they? The article you posted is about the GOP hammering Harry Reid. I read the article and it had nothing to do with alternatives to the stimulus package that is proposed by the House Dems. Unless its attacking everything the oppossing party submits into legislation.

I don't see how this is an alternative. Please explain.

Posted by: Tuathe | January 28, 2009 2:31 PM | Report abuse

--"Just one example of a NEW, CONSTRUCTIVE idea: House Republicans propose a home-buyers credit of $7,500 for buyers who can make a minimum down-payment of 5 percent.

Posted by: JakeD | January 28, 2009 1:21 PM | Report abuse "--

http://activerain.com/blogsview/764571/First-time-Home-Buyer-7500-Tax-Credit-in-a-Nutshell

So it's not 'NEW' and is already in place. Nice. My fault for paying attention.

Posted by: DonJasper | January 28, 2009 2:30 PM | Report abuse

After seeing yesterday that House Republican leaders gathered together their members and told them to vote against this before Obama showed up to meet for them, I became furious. I think they really do hate America. They'd rather see this country fail than have the President succeed.

Posted by: mbmclaughlin | January 28, 2009 2:26 PM | Report abuse

scrivener50:

Good news! The House has just defeated a bill to postpone the upcoming transition from analog to digital television broadcasting by four months to June 12.

House Republicans succeeded in scuttling a bill to delay the transition, which is scheduled for Feb. 17, less than two days after the Senate unanimously passed the plan.

The defeat is a setback for the Obama administration and Democrats on Capitol Hill, who fear too many Americans are not ready for the switchover.

Posted by: JakeD | January 28, 2009 2:23 PM | Report abuse

shoot jake, now i have to actually read HR1 at lunch.

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | January 28, 2009 2:18 PM | Report abuse

make it make = make it back (darn spellchecker ; )

Posted by: JakeD | January 28, 2009 2:18 PM | Report abuse

beachbum1938:

Did you make it make today?

Posted by: JakeD | January 28, 2009 2:17 PM | Report abuse

vegasgirl1:

Did you find the link?

DonJasper:

It's not all about you -- I'm not going to use the $7,500 either, but it's a good idea (with bsimon's modification) to STIMULATE to economy -- you know, the whole stated purpose of this bill?

Posted by: JakeD | January 28, 2009 2:16 PM | Report abuse

Republicans are like "The Terminator." They can't be reasoned with. They can only be defeated.

President Obama needs to be "the iron fist in the velvet glove." He should just smile and steamroller over them.

There's lots of damage to undo from the Bush/Cheney years, and the clock is ticking...

Posted by: svreader | January 28, 2009 2:15 PM | Report abuse

yes, we do not want to fall into personal attacks on the WaPo blog here. they may stop it and then where would i get my "chat fix" or the opportunity to virtually throw shoes.

I am leary of big amounts going to programs that have not been "administered well" throughout the years. The housing debacle was because companies/industry leaders did not follow regulatory requirements.
Big amounts to small programs is scary because of the "free money" that rolls around.

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | January 28, 2009 2:15 PM | Report abuse

--"Just one example of a NEW, CONSTRUCTIVE idea: House Republicans propose a home-buyers credit of $7,500 for buyers who can make a minimum down-payment of 5 percent.

Posted by: JakeD | January 28, 2009 1:21 PM | Report abuse "--

So that's an income tax credit - for people who buy a house with 5% down. Does me absolutely no good. I have no plans to buy my current house a second time.

Make it a credit for refinancing - and I'm there for you. I'll refinance as many times as allowed between now and tax-day.

Posted by: DonJasper | January 28, 2009 2:11 PM | Report abuse

svreader:

I thought you wanted Hilary DIANE Clinton to be President?!

Posted by: JakeD | January 28, 2009 2:08 PM | Report abuse

"$1 billion for Amtrak, the federal railroad that hasn't turned a profit in 40 years; $2 billion for child-care subsidies; $50 million for that great engine of job creation, the National Endowment for the Arts ..."

LOL!!!

Posted by: JakeD | January 28, 2009 2:08 PM | Report abuse

Republicans are like "The Terminator" They cannot be reasoned with, they can only be defeated.

President Obama should just smile and steamroller over them.

There's lots of damage to undo from the Bush/Cheney years, and the clock is ticking...

Posted by: svreader | January 28, 2009 2:07 PM | Report abuse

ChangeWhat:

Exactly! $350,000,000 for STD prevention?

Posted by: JakeD | January 28, 2009 2:05 PM | Report abuse

I think the Republicans will be VERY STUPID if they vote against our popular President Obama now. Aleast Arlen Spector did a smart move to vote for the confirmation of Eric Holder. The Republicans better shut up and learn.

Posted by: mattadamsdietmanager1014 | January 28, 2009 2:02 PM | Report abuse

"Never let a serious crisis go to waste. What I mean by that is it's an opportunity to do things you couldn't do before."

So said White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel in November, and Democrats in Congress are certainly taking his advice to heart. The 647-page, $825 billion House legislation is being sold as an economic "stimulus," but now that Democrats have finally released the details we understand Rahm's point much better. This is a political wonder that manages to spend money on just about every pent-up Democratic proposal of the last 40 years.


http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123310466514522309.html

Posted by: ChangeWhat | January 28, 2009 2:02 PM | Report abuse

bsimon1:

I could accept those changes.

Posted by: JakeD | January 28, 2009 1:59 PM | Report abuse

If the RNC continues in it's America-hating CEO-dascha-supporting activities, they deserve the 40 years in the wilderness they'll be consigned to.

Do they actually think ANYONE believes tax cuts for CEOs and the ultra-rich work?

We're not stupid.

Posted by: WillSeattle | January 28, 2009 1:59 PM | Report abuse

Rick:

Thanks for the correction (yeah, that liberal media never get anything wrong ; )

vegasgirl1:

I posted one example (and link) below -- now, I would like you to quote ANY personal attack I've leveled against anyone posting here -- you can't do it, because I never have.

Posted by: JakeD | January 28, 2009 1:58 PM | Report abuse

"House Republicans propose a home-buyers credit of $7,500 for buyers who can make a minimum down-payment of 5 percent."

That's reasonable, but I would target it in a couple ways. 1) must be for a primary residence. 2) cap the incentive for homes at or under 150% of median home prices for the region.

Posted by: bsimon1 | January 28, 2009 1:56 PM | Report abuse

"Does anyone else want to actually discuss the NEW, CONSTRUCTIVE ideas that House and Senate Republicans have, instead of resorting to personal attacks?"
Posted by: JakeD

Gee, JakeD, I don't know. Maybe you could take a tip from yourself and lay off with your own personal attacks, huh?
Oh, and BTW: What ARE the new, constructive ideas the GOP has? Because if they really do, they're not doing a very good job at advertising them. (And please spare us "it's all because of the evil, liberal media" argument; that won't wash anymore.)
Furthermore, maybe, just maybe, if the GOP (with help from some cowardly Demos) had actually not rolled over for former President Bush on practically every political bill or decision over the last 8 years, people might be more willing to listen to them -- and they might still be in the majority.
Think about it, poster.

Posted by: vegasgirl1 | January 28, 2009 1:53 PM | Report abuse

Gingrich NOT Endorsing

Former Speaker Newt Gingrich has not endorsed any candidate in the race for RNC Chairman as Cillizza originally posted.

Rick Tyler
Spokesperson for Speaker Newt Gingrich

Posted by: ricktyler | January 28, 2009 1:51 PM | Report abuse

That last post was to TheBabeNemo. A better idea would be to simply give every American $3,000.

Posted by: JakeD | January 28, 2009 1:51 PM | Report abuse

And who, eaxctly, is going to pay for that?! No need to prevent foreclosures of vacation or 2nd homes. Speculators SHOULD get burned!

Posted by: JakeD | January 28, 2009 1:49 PM | Report abuse

"Does anyone else want to actually discuss the NEW, CONSTRUCTIVE ideas that House and Senate Republicans have, instead of resorting to personal attacks?"
New and constructive like what - tax cuts!? Get real. if you haven't figured it out by now, it was Republican economics that got us into this mess in the first place.
Who defined insanity as doing the same thing over and over while expecting a different result? Sound familiar?
Furthermore, if tax cuts create jobs, then where did all those jobs go that Bush created with his tax cuts??
Enough said.

Posted by: lasker1895 | January 28, 2009 1:49 PM | Report abuse

They call this "Stimulus" but it sounds alot more like PORKULUS.

This Iresponsible spending spree is of a magnatude never seen in American History.

VOTE NO TO THE 800 plus Billion wastefull expenditure of the Taxpayers money. JUST SAY NO TO THE PORKULUS BILL.

Posted by: ignoranceisbliss | January 28, 2009 1:48 PM | Report abuse

I would like to see a FREEZE on all foreclosures for 90 days.

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | January 28, 2009 1:43 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone else want to actually discuss the NEW, CONSTRUCTIVE ideas that House and Senate Republicans have, instead of resorting to personal attacks?

Posted by: JakeD | January 28, 2009 1:42 PM | Report abuse

jake....now you know they are trying to get everything AND the kitchen sink in this HR1.
What is "kinda sorta" misleading is that the American Renewal and Recovery Plan (HR1) is not truly the "2nd half of the stimulus package".
i am glad you pulled the bill up & read, at least.

did you see the Lilly Ledbetter bill
S.181. ???

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | January 28, 2009 1:42 PM | Report abuse

Great to see that everyone's favorite fake Christian is back to haunting these boards.

Do as JakeD says, not as he does.....................

Posted by: htruman | January 28, 2009 1:33 PM | Report abuse

Just one example of a NEW, CONSTRUCTIVE idea: House Republicans propose a home-buyers credit of $7,500 for buyers who can make a minimum down-payment of 5 percent.

Posted by: JakeD | January 28, 2009 1:21 PM | Report abuse

Again, I've posted the GOP Alternative Plan on the other thread:

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/thefix/2009/01/nv-sen_hammering_harry.html

Posted by: JakeD | January 28, 2009 1:17 PM | Report abuse

You Poor Cons...Feeling picked on, neglected, shut out? Feel bad because Daddy Obama isn't paying attention to you? Please...He did win the election by a signficant amount, remember? Voters aren't interested in the tired action of you cons. You all had your 8 years and the economy is a mess - or haven't you been paying attention.
I realize that Rush and Fox don't provide the truth to you all but c'mon, even you guys should see what has been happening. The voters want to see action and Obama is trying to deliver. The stimulus, while the details may need some polishing, is the right thing to do. All you all know - or think you know - are tax cuts for the wealthy. NewsFlash!! It hasn't worked!! So you want to provide more? Please!!! History will tell you that tax cuts for the upper brackets doesn't work for an economy. Targeted government spending does - always has, always will. You like the bridges and national parks and paved roads and "historic" buildings and great art and the TVA and schools and rural electricity and so on? Thank the progressives. What have you Cons done?
Obama went to the Hill for dialogue and all he got was a bunch of whining. No constructive ideas, certainly no new ideas. Maybe he should act as Bush did and tell the Repubs to kiss it.

Posted by: mobyminnow | January 28, 2009 12:55 PM | Report abuse

I've posted the GOP Alternative Plan on the other thread:

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/thefix/2009/01/nv-sen_hammering_harry.html

Posted by: JakeD | January 28, 2009 12:40 PM | Report abuse

commboss:

Senate Republicans have the votes to filibuster and educate the American people as to why this is a bad idea. After that, I agree they have to hang the albatross around the Dems necks.

Posted by: JakeD | January 28, 2009 12:24 PM | Report abuse

TheBabeNemo:

(page 147):

(4) not less than $335,000,000 shall be used as an additional amount to carry out domestic HIV/AIDS, viral hepatitis, sexually-transmitted diseases, and tuberculosis prevention programs ...

http://www.rules.house.gov/111/LegText/111_hr1_text.pdf

Where's the STIMULUS in that?!

Posted by: JakeD | January 28, 2009 12:22 PM | Report abuse

House Republicans do not have the votes
Senate Republicans do not have the votes.
President Obama need only tell Speaker Pelosi and Senator Reid the path, and they will do his bidding. Better for republicans to sit out this madness for two years, as this program is a failure of Democratic legion. 2010 is a Census year, 2012 is a time for new Congresional districts, tempus fugit, our wait will not be long

Posted by: commboss | January 28, 2009 12:21 PM | Report abuse

jake...no...but i caught CNN and the interviewER (of the arab station) on CNN.

he was very upbeat about how folks over there can feel "the winds of change".

hey....the HR1 bill. The table of contents is 12 pages long.
I have often wondered if the Senate and House really really read these bills and amendments.

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | January 28, 2009 12:13 PM | Report abuse

"Between Barack and a Hard Vote"....oh man, that's bad...WaPo should suspend your expense account for a week or this sort of thing is liable to happen again.

Posted by: officermancuso | January 28, 2009 12:00 PM | Report abuse

TheBabeNemo:

Did you see "The Colbert Report" last night re: Obama appearing on Arab TV?

Posted by: JakeD | January 28, 2009 11:59 AM | Report abuse

it is ..

the saying in WASH D.C. is
"you can't buck the big 8"

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | January 28, 2009 11:42 AM | Report abuse

As for the Republicans' being wealthy.. What about the Clinton's they made (between the two of them last year $10million).. GIVE ME A BREAK!!!
Most folks have not a clue as to what the
Republican platform is.
And most folks who complain about the Republcian don't want to know,, because they are the ones that want "something FREE"
ALl these folks that think this stimulus package.. which should really be called..
TAKE MY TAX DOLLARS and spend ever how they wish.. are going to be sad come next year when their taxes goes up...
YEAH FOR THE DEMO's... they always know what it best for all of us... GIVE ME A BREAK!!!!

Posted by: woodnymph558 | January 28, 2009 11:41 AM | Report abuse

Cilizza writes that Obama will make a "Pilgrimage" to the Pentagon?

I know Americans worship all things military, but come on.

Posted by: Bud0 | January 28, 2009 11:40 AM | Report abuse

this is really quite exciting folks!

HR 1
American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 (Introduced in House)

i am following this big time.


Posted by: TheBabeNemo | January 28, 2009 11:06 AM | Report abuse

This bill will pass because Obama's Oracle has predicted a successful outcome. The folks in Congress cannot play the Political Parlor Game as well as Obama. ..........


http://thefiresidepost.com/2009/01/28/political-parlor-games-and-obamas-oracle/

Posted by: glclark4750 | January 28, 2009 10:57 AM | Report abuse

stodayxx:

YES! you caught the same sentence I did.

What core principles?
Republicans have one principle.
"what's in it for me" (and of course, wrap it in a bunch of RED TAPE)))

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | January 28, 2009 10:51 AM | Report abuse

mark_in_austin:

Actually, one of the surprises of Nate's analysis is that Judd Gregg has voted 6/7 times with the BHO administration. Whether that has to do with the way NH voted this past election or not is unclear.

I think we'll see a lot of BHO talking to the GOP leaders, regardless of his success rate. First, he might change some minds. Second, it's probably just savvy politics. In the end, we may see deals being hammered out between BHO and the GOP on the basketball court -- in contrast to the red-faced Irishmen making deals over drinks (RWR, Tip O'Neill).

Posted by: mnteng | January 28, 2009 10:49 AM | Report abuse

Sorry, I only keyed in on one small part of your article: ".. abandonment of the party's core principles -- most notably an emphasis on smaller government and limited spending".

UGH... 'smaller government and limited spending' is the republican core Platform! Republicans have Never even tried to achieve this platform goal - except when they've had to compete politically with democrats.
80% of the current deficit is from Republican, and the feds have almost doubled in size under republican leadership. The only thing the Republicans are good for is making the wealthy, more wealthy - by any means: graft, corruption, lack of oversight, tax cuts, fraud, ....
Heck, The only one to even attempt a balanced budget in the last 30 years was Clinton - and they've hated min ever since!

Posted by: stodayxx | January 28, 2009 10:42 AM | Report abuse

((((hearty smiles )))

i have my "ARIZONA CARDINALS/RED BIRDS" stiletto high heels off and I am throwing them at Jake.

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | January 28, 2009 10:39 AM | Report abuse

the "jelling" of our financial institutions to the needs of the common man. What does the "common capitalistic man" need right now?

Shades of Adam Smith and John Nash. The proverbial "what's in it for me" and "no free lunches". Are they not the cardinal rules of capitalistic theory?

Perhaps we could re-apply the Nash equilibrium.

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | January 28, 2009 10:36 AM | Report abuse

For the record, I am registered Independent, not Republican.

Posted by: JakeD | January 28, 2009 10:23 AM | Report abuse

First: JakeD -- you have a very long 8 years ahead of you. But since you seem to live in your own little world, I won't worry about you too much.

In any case, I find it interesting that the GOP -- who are almost completely in the wilderness right now -- have decided to do nothing during the current economic crisis except complain and point fingers. I mean, chances are, no matter what Obama and Congres do, our country will come out of the economic crisis in the next 4 years -- and Obama (and the Democrats in Congress) will get credit for it.

Meanwhile, the Democrats will have crafted bills with targeted tax cuts, with targeted "goodies" for special interests and businesses and with help for states. All of which means that Democrats will be building more and more support for the future.

And the GOP? They will be seen as obstructionists, naysayers and partisan attack dogs. All to the determent of the American people -- for their own selfish political purposes.

So vote no, GOP. Stay in the opposition. Be the ones no one thanks for bringing the country back from the brink of one of the worst economic disasters in our history.

Yeah -- that's the ticket! Sit on your hands and let Obama and the Democrats take all the credit and get all the gratitude.

All I can say is -- when did Republicans become so tone deaf? Reagan must be turning in his grave!

Posted by: rebeccajm | January 28, 2009 10:15 AM | Report abuse

Hey OldCoot1, I understand that you think Obama shouldn't be condemned after being in office for less than two weeks. But look at the other end of the spectrum. He was inaugurated last Tuesday, and people are already praising him like he's some kind of a hero for "reaching across the aisle". The way I see it, there is no way to actually judge what how he is doing. That 68% approval from the Gallup survey should not even be showing its face because that 68% is left over from the excitement of the election in November. I have been to the rallies. I have heard his speeches, and from what I can see, his words are empty. He sweet-talked his way into office, and that makes me scared for the nation. But, there's nothing I can do except to express my concern for how this is playing out.
One more thing - how is taking out another $825 billion (now pushing $900 billion in the Senate) going to permanently resolve the economic problems we face? We already took out $750 billion in the past few months, and look where it has got us in such a short span of time. In any case, somebody is going to have to pay it all back, namely us young folks. And the way I see it, there is not enough money in the tangibly real world to support that kind of debt. Somebody in the Government's Financial Office (-ahem- Geithner!)had better wake up and figure out a way to reinvent the financial wheel, NOW, because right now, there is no way to stop this inevitable downward spiral in the path our new President is avidly pursuing.
It's a scary world we live in. Good luck to all, and God Bless our America.

Posted by: sunnystrings | January 28, 2009 10:12 AM | Report abuse

I would submit that JakeD is a moron.

Posted by: shamey73 | January 28, 2009 10:09 AM | Report abuse

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Posted by: scrivener50 | January 28, 2009 9:50 AM | Report abuse

bsimon and brad - What you both wrote got me thinking that Collins and Snowe might as well caucus with the Ds now. I will read the "538" blog, soon.

It seems to me that on FP the Prez can pretty much count on Lugar, McC, and Graham, too. McC and Gen. Jones are old and dear friends.

Posted by: mark_in_austin | January 28, 2009 9:43 AM | Report abuse

When I see a prez talking to the opposing party's congressional caucuses at length in an interactive session I see the exact opposite of a "dictatorial" or "imperial" executive. I believe this Prez, like RR, is temperamentally suited to woo Congress without having his feathers ruffled when he is rebuffed. Over time, if he keeps up the charm attack, they will work with him, as the Congress ultimately worked with RR on many issues. No, it will not be a lovefest. Yes, it will be how the system works when it does work.

I encourage the Prez to continue these efforts. The outreach is what the American people generally want from their leader in tough times.

Posted by: mark_in_austin | January 28, 2009 9:38 AM | Report abuse

Did anyone see the interview on Arab t.v.? President Obama is not arrogant. He is a lawyer that states facts. Do you really want the President of the USA
"under our thumb or anyone else's?"
(to quote DA STONES ))

I think he is meticulous as all get out. State it and state it plain President. We need it.
Will it hurt your feelings? Tough.

and jake(y) is back. Hi. I found the long form on the NET!!! jake(y) is in a Barack and A Hard Place. I love the way Chris hits on the Rolling Stones.
"got nothing to lose but their shirts"

Let's go House !!!! Pass this thing.

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | January 28, 2009 9:34 AM | Report abuse

beachbum1938:

If a Republican like Arnold Schwarzenegger had "won" instead, I suspect the Constitutional qualifications would suddenly seem more important.

Posted by: JakeD | January 28, 2009 9:30 AM | Report abuse

bradcpa- over at 538, Nate does some early analysis of GOP voting patterns. Sen Snowe, of Maine, supported the Obama administration 7 of 7 times for the votes Nate ranks 'important'. Collins went 6 of 7, as did several other Repubs.

On the house side, the problem with their strategy is that difficult economic times, like those we face today, are the one time that borrow-and-spend fiscal policies make sense. They would be smart to get on board with fiscal stimulus now & ensure there are sunset provisions to the spending packages, rather than taking the 'party of no' position. Once the economy is back on track, resurrect the arguments about small gov't & limited spending. Making those arguments today makes clear they have no sense of timing.

Posted by: bsimon1 | January 28, 2009 9:30 AM | Report abuse


Obama seems a little dictator like. His smarmy arrogance is pungent. His obvious Socialist bent with a Marxist philosophy is rancid. He, with his South Chicago Political Thug tactics, is creepy. He remains a complete unknown yet with the short time in the Oval Office his true colors are beginning to emerge. His shady complete past and associations should have been the medias concern during the campaign but they were disturbingly taken in by his empty mantra blather as a teenage girl is with her first romantic encounter. Disgusting.

Posted by: ChangeWhat | January 28, 2009 9:21 AM | Report abuse

Jake you are an idiot. Obama made sure that the oath was taken a second time to thwart people like you who try to hang their Rightious hats on a trivial matter. It was Bush's Chief of the Supreme Court pick that screwed up the words and had to re-do the oath.
Get with the program...Obama Won!

Posted by: beachbum1938 | January 28, 2009 9:21 AM | Report abuse

The Republicans are setting themselves up to lose another 30 house seats. I also think the Democrats will break 60 senate seats before 2010 unless the Republicans come to their sences. I think you will see two Republicans switch parties or at least caucus with the Democrats before the next voting takes place.

Posted by: bradcpa | January 28, 2009 9:09 AM | Report abuse

I cannot see how people can condemn a man that has been in office for less than two weeks, when it took eight years for a southern Republican eight years to ruin this country.

Posted by: OldCoot1 | January 28, 2009 7:46 AM | Report abuse

Hopefully, Brownback does better in 2012 than he did in 2008.

Posted by: JakeD | January 28, 2009 6:11 AM | Report abuse

I would submit that Obama is not legally President.

Posted by: JakeD | January 28, 2009 6:04 AM | Report abuse

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