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Convention Cheat Sheet: Fred Steals The Night

ST. PAUL -- On a night when the headliners were expected to be President George W. Bush and Connecticut Sen. Joe Lieberman (I), it was former Sen. Fred Thompson (Tenn.) who stole the show with a stemwinder that mixed a heartfelt recounting of John McCain's life with several sharp-edged attacks on the Democratic nominee.

Thompson is, and always has been, a commanding presence. At 6'5" tall and with a deep baritone voice, he looks like a president. And yet, during his short-lived presidential bid earlier this year, he was often a listless and unpredictable presence on the campaign trail -- seemingly unwilling or unable to show the sort of charisma that had attracted many people to his candidacy in the first place.

Last night, Thompson showed why so many people thought he could be the next president of the United States. He powerfully recounted the torture McCain had endured at the hands of the North Vietnamese, testified to the character of his friend and also castigated Barack Obama for his alleged lack of experience and lack of readiness to take over the job of commander-in-chief.

It was a master stroke from Thompson and caused a number of GOP strategists to wonder where he had been hiding that sort of speech during his presidential campaign. Such is -- and always has been -- the conundrum of Thompson: brilliant one minute, boring and disengaged the next.

Among the other highlights of the day/night:

INSIDE THE HALL: Anyone who has followed Lieberman's political career knows that his successes are built less on his oratorical abilities than on simply who he is. Lieberman is not a particularly gifted speaker; his addresses tend to be plodding and without rhythm and he didn't disappoint last night. The content of the speech -- more bipartisanship is needed, Obama isn't ready, McCain is a unique figure -- was solid but the delivery was weak.

OUTSIDE THE HALL: Talk of the political future of Gov. Bobby Jindal was stoked by another virtuoso performance by the Louisiana Republican yesterday. Jindal has appeared totally in control -- of both himself and the situation -- during and after Hurricane Gustav and has done himself enormous political good among national observers over the last few days.

BEST GIVEAWAY: Project Vote Smart wins the day with a purple pen that doubles as a flashlight. The slogan? "Bringing Truth to Light". Touche.

WORST TAKEAWAY: Protests continued to mar the image St. Paul (and the Republican party) is hoping to send to the world. While arrests were down drastically from Monday, there were still difficult moments and more protests are expected today.

VIDEO OF THE DAY: A moving tribute to Michael Monsoor -- a Navy SEAL killed in action in Iraq. It played last night at the convention.

By Chris Cillizza  |  September 3, 2008; 9:35 AM ET
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If going to war makes you President material there's plenty of war hero's.My brother although he wasn't captured so that might count against him..McCain picked
that female because she is a soccer mama That way she want have time to notice what he's doing. She's just eye candy for women and men. She can't do anything without him givig her the go head people wake up the Bible tells you man will be head.

Posted by: unknow voice | September 4, 2008 1:13 PM | Report abuse

@That Darn Republican

The truth hurts

The bottom line is that republicans spout economic "theories" that have no connection to economic fact. Example: Trickle Down Economics
Its a post-hoc justification for a policy of redistributing wealth to the richest. The repubs don't care if its actually true, only if it sounds plausible; much like the rhetoric you espouse. Statistics show that things like "trickle down economics" and "laissez faire capitalism" don't actually work in the real world.

Its that connection to reality that makes the difference between good policy and bad policy. The lack of said connection to reality is exactly why the Bush administration and many other conservative administrations in the US have been so disastrous.

Posted by: FunFacts | September 3, 2008 10:44 PM | Report abuse

Where's Ron Paul?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 3, 2008 9:09 PM | Report abuse

I was a delegate at the Texas State GOP convention in June which normally draws 10,000 in a Presidential year ... this year they had 4500. Pitiful! Did I memtion that that was also when I resigned from the GOP because rather than allow Ron Paul to have an opportunity to speak at his own "Home State Convention" during the introduction of our U.S. Congressmen & Senators ... they decided to scrap that portion of the Program. What cowards!

Posted by: ricknhouston | September 3, 2008 8:51 PM | Report abuse

DT in Texas ****************

I've not heard a single soul utter the word "abortion" in regard to the young Miss Palin. It is indeed unfortunate that you make such an acusation. I think that the "uprising" you speak of has more to do with the rationality used by Senator McCain in making his choice for a running mate. he had many "qualified" sources to choose from but opted, instead, to gamble on picking this candidate for nothing more than the possibility that she could bring him a few feminist votes ... period! All the rest of it campaign and media fodder used to distract from the real issues. I have not heard one single member of the Obama camp utter the first negative toward her family. You're nothing more than an antagonist for fanning the flames of hatred and you should be ashamed!

Posted by: ricknhouston | September 3, 2008 8:44 PM | Report abuse

Lots of empty seats at this GOP convention.

"[A]s for that V.P. talk all the time, I'll tell you, I still can't answer that question until somebody answers for me what is it exactly that the V.P. does every day?" - Gov. Palin

McCain is a pain and Palin pales in comparison to Biden's experience, sharpness and experience.

GOP? This the same old party, for sure, and no longer very grand.

Posted by: Robert Campbell | September 3, 2008 8:43 PM | Report abuse

the gauntlet is laid down. we have the Republican party of:

military success
economic progress

contrast that to the pitiful spectacle of the DNC:

empty rhetoric
what military, what war?
taxes, taxes, taxes
lowest rated congress ever, worst speaker in history, empty suit candidate, VP who is always wrong
gave a speech once to cheering Germans

Posted by: kingofzouk | September 3, 2008 9:45 AM
DUDE !!! .... You need to step away from the crack pipe for a few hours .... you're hallucinating!

Posted by: ricknhouston | September 3, 2008 8:32 PM | Report abuse

Kingofzouk wrote:

the gauntlet is laid down. we have the Republican party of:

military success
economic progress

contrast that to the pitiful spectacle of the DNC:

empty rhetoric
what military, what war?
taxes, taxes, taxes
lowest rated congress ever, worst speaker in history, empty suit candidate, VP who is always wrong
gave a speech once to cheering Germans


How did the GOP feel about McCain in 2000?
How many votes did he miss in the senate since then? Did'nt he vote against his own bill?

Military success?

A 7 year open ended war aganst tribesmen that we had to pay to stop fighting.

Economic progress?.

Enron, Haliburton, Blackwater, KBR and Corporate welafare. yeah real economic progress.


The highest national debt ever and the largest trade deficit with China in the history of our country


A National Guard duty dodging pilot, a 5 deferment wussy, Larry craig, and the GOP page boy scandal. Hahahaha. Yeah, lots of characters


Not if its the same "experience" i been having for the last 8 years.

Posted by: zinjiin | September 3, 2008 8:29 PM | Report abuse

Shame on all of you who would think that all Americans do not have the right to their freedom of choice without being violated physically and mentally. What would you call a person who has no regard for the right's of their fellow American's? Unpatriotic? Disillusioned?

I may stand corrected but it was not the Republican Party that initiated this invasion of privacy on Gov. Palin and her family. If this were any of you and I am sure there are thousands of families whose children have been with child prior to being married or perhaps, yourself(?) If by choosing to raise this child versus terminating the pregnancy is what you supposedly are suggesting should have been done - maybe you should take a look in the mirror and as ask yourself if the world should look at you the way you look at her. It does not matter what "party" we are but that when we make a mistake that we do the right thing and take responsibility for our actions. Perhaps that is what you should be teaching your children. What you are implying is that if you teach your child abstinence and they fail to do this - that they should either hide the truth, take actions into their own hands and then you might be praying that instead of crucifying them you should have been supporting them. Let the first one of you who have never made a life changing mistake be the first one to cast any Judgment. I think we might be hard pressed to find one or two of you who might think they can answer to that description.
What is happening in this election is that we are showing that we are moving ahead in our thinking. The Democrats think that it was wonderful when Hillary was running for the Democratic Presidential nomination, and as a working mother and single parent I was very excited, but correct me if I am wrong - wasn't she the one who promoted working women who have a family and hasn't she always been a working mother with a demanding job? So, she should not have worked but stayed home with Chelsea? or because she is a different party your thinking does not apply to her? Seems to be a great deal of that going around.

For those who think that Barack has more experience - you need to check your source of information because you obviously have some bad data.

I am not for a party - I am for this country, for my children and grandchildren and for those yet to come. I would like for them to grow up knowing that the way to achieve your goals is not by destroying someone else - just because you think you can.

God bless America.

Posted by: DT in Texas | September 3, 2008 7:38 PM | Report abuse

Hey... Fun Facts,

Those are fun lies... and useless propaganda.

The Oval Office if the office of wealth residstribution, get that straight. Wealth is generated by opportunity, not political opportunism. Republicans fundementally know what it takes to preserve wealth cycles - democrats know how to bankrupt the middle class, to whom is their worst enemy, dont' ever confuse that... you'll look dumber than the comments you just made.

Posted by: That Darn Republican | September 3, 2008 6:48 PM | Report abuse

I felt the analysis on Thompson was fairly accurate. He was winsome, probative... but clear and quick to check liberal bellwethers. Be completely laid Obama to waste on the impudent "above his pay grade"
response he gave at Saddleback was enough to let people know Barack Obama is not American enough to be President of the United States.


Rick J:

You lefties have an empty ticket, and you know it. The knee jerk reactionism from your compatriots-in-arms is far more telling than anything going on here. These nut bucket feminists are loosing their minds as well all the planners that thought their lefty chess pieces would be in play all the way to Pennsylvania Ave, not.

Now their scamming has been seriously checked. Obama un-elected himself... he is pie pan deep and you know it. He is scandalous and America knows it. The libs weren't ready for real people to step up, so here they go with tired old interventionism. You folks are so lame and... done.

See republicans never forgot there is a union to preserve, and principle's [not ideologies] hold us up in that pursuit. Lincoln told that this "government for the people, by the people... shall not perish" well it dies when the people don't participate, including running for office. Do they not remember that many of our nations framers were not lawyers and such?. They were farmers, merchants and pastors and educators. Who told liberals they their sick dynastic bureaucracy was something the uphold and protect? Not... Only twisted minds benefit from a system selective engagement.

I'll concede this, sure... it is nice to have people with experience. But having their heart and mind in the right place counts for more than relevant experience in certain areas. But Sarah Palin is more than qualified to hold the position, Obama/Biden is the most politically neutered, socially inept ticket in America's history. You liars need to quit! The office President doesn't come with an instruction book, it was carved out of values and charater liberals miss the marke on every time.

You nutters are showing us that your ideals are worth "investing" the nations future in... I'll tell you that much. Look where we are now? 50 years into your social "rebellion" and nothing of any longstanding value has pervaded the social fabric of our day, all we have imported is eastern block socialism for all our troubles; worthless... all of you.

Posted by: That Darn Republican | September 3, 2008 6:44 PM | Report abuse


Over the 20th century the economy has grown more, created more jobs, and distributed wealth more evenly when democrats were president than when republicans were president.

Despite your hollow rhetoric about free markets, the evidence indicates that a carefully managed free-market under dems does better than a free-market running wild under repubs

Posted by: FunFacts | September 3, 2008 6:34 PM | Report abuse

One candidate (Obama) "TALKS THE TALK" (when there are teleprompters around anyway) about change.
One candidate (McCain) and vice president candidate (Palin) both "WALK THE WALK" about making things happen.

One (Obama) promises to add jobs here but wants to punish the companies (ie the ones who actually add the jobs) with higher taxes, which is a common sense incentive for companies to move jobs elsewhere.
One (McCain) understands that for a free market to add jobs here we need to incent the companies with lower taxes to add the millions of jobs we need. You learn that in Econ 101. We are already the country with the highest business taxes in the world, and we wonder why business move elsewhere. Duh.

One (Obama) opposed the Born Alive law (which means they'd literally let babies die hours after delivery by not feeding it and refusing medication --- infanticide!). He was the only senator in the Senate now to oppose it. Google it. Even the most ardent abortion rights groups don't support what is truly infanticide.
One (McCain) supported it, as did every other Senator except Obama.

One (Obama) can't take a stand without polls and consultants to save his life and simply voted "present" (as oppposed to "yes" or "no" like men with backbone do) more than 130 times in the Illinois senate. You gotta be kiddin' me.
One (McCain) is the epitome of the word "maverick" in that he is willing to stand for right even if it's unpopular at times.

One (Obama) opposed the surge, which led to the success that we're now enjoying in Iraq, and still refuses to acknowledge that the surge worked.
One (McCain) pushed for the surge before it was popular and was even ridiculed. McCain said then that he'd rather lose the presidency than have America lose the war. McCain's foresight was proven correct, and is the reason that we can even really seriously talk about bringing the troops home.

One (Obama) takes a "let's-all-hold-hands-and-sing-kumbayah" approach to Russia, Iran and North Korea foreign policy, says thinking about abortion is "above his pay grade", still won't admit the surge worked, refused to shake hands with the troops oversees when the cameras left (documented by even the left press but no big deal to the NYT, CBS, ABC, NBC), falsely enhanced his international image by speaking to large German crowds in part because they promised them a free concert and free beer, actively wants to promote the teaching of immorality to your kids that goes against what he says is his Christian faith, listened to black-white hate speech nearly every Sunday for 20 years and then said he was never in the pew when anything bad was said, produced not one, but two fake birth certificates to fight a still-pending Pennsylvania lawsuit by a Hillary supporter that shows he is probably not even a US citizen (which he could end if they simply produced a true birth certificate) -- again Google it and you'll see the only defender of it, factcheck, is part of Annenberg, the same group that paid Obama for 4 years -- has never taken a stand against corrupt members of his own party, co-chaired a committee with a known terrorist (William Ayers) for four years (99-2002) who proudly and unrepentently brags that he bombed the NY fire department, the Pentagon and the Capitol Building and who funded Obama at his home and who Obama calls a "good man", is against public school choice (to get the teacher's union endorsement) but who sends his kids to private school, gets a $300,000 discount on his $1.3 million home in a questionable-at-best land deal with a convicted felon "slum lord" Tony Rezko. And that's just the stuff Hillary found out. Imagine if we actually had a media who would plunge into any of these.

On the other hand, one candidate (McCain) and vice president candidate (Palin) both have gone after corruption in both parties -- and won -- and have been independent fighters of streamlining government, tranparency and open integrity, regardless of party. Despite the Dems' attempts to link the two, there has been no Republican in W's face more than McCain over the last 8 years. He's largely refused lobbyist money (though with millions of donors, neither side can check them all). He's a strong, independent thinker and leader. McCain is avidly opposed to the excesses of wasteful, pork-filled earmarks. The same goes for Palin. Rather than talk platitudes and play Washington's games, Governor Palin sent back the money that a corrupt senator -- in her own party -- got to their state for the "bridge to nowhere". That's a *proven* change agent. You don't have to have faith to believe in that change -- we can see it!

One (Obama) is opposed to us drilling 50 miles off-shore, but is OK with the Chinese doing it 60 miles off-shore in Cuba waters.
One (McCain) is for drilling immediately to reduce our fuel costs, and reducing our dependence on Middle East and South American dictators, realizing that it's both ecomonics and in the interest of our nation's security to do so. No politician knows more about energy than Palin, whose state produces 20% of our nation's energy.

A few more things.

I was pleased to see Bishop Blake, the head of the Church of God in Christ strongly take Obama to task over abortion (see YouTube). It sounds like he is still leaning to vote for Obama, but more and more of the black Democrat church leaders are questioning the policies Obama is pushing, like teaching your kindergarten and first graders that homosexuality is OK. That's against Christian, Jewish, Muslim, Buddhist, and Hindi values. I'm a black guy, and since Obama is supposedly running a "post racial" candidacy, we can't just follow like sheep talking about "the historical significance" of his would-be presidency. Hogwash!! He should be scrutinized by the blacks, whites and Latinos just like any other candidate who would be pushing something that you're going to be fighting on day 2 of his would-be presidency.

I agree with the point someone else made earlier that this is the year that journalistic integrity died, and I'm not just talking about Tim Russert (may he rest in peace). The bias is widening. For example, McCain goes to foreign lands (Mexico, Columbia, and various points across South America) and we get a news clip from their local media. Obama goes to Europe and all the big shots (Katie Curric, Brian Williams, etc) get on a plane and follow him around like Daddy's taking them on vacation, and talk about how beautiful it is that Obama can blow hot air in other lands too. Wow. Look everybody! Obama's talking. Oooh. Let's all dream and swoon.

People keep saying that Obama's run a near-flawless campaign. Well, we have to acknowledge he's done OK, but we can't overlook the joint effort of the media. As Hillary pointed out, the media just forgives his multiple "sweetie" comments, or his claiming that he's been to "57 states" (have to look on YouTube for that one), but if McCain makes a verbal flub (which everyone does eventually if you're in front of a camera 12 hours a day), it leads off the day's news of the major networks and stays there for 2 or 3 days. My personal opinion is miscues like that shouldn't be reported, but if you do one, you should do both.

Obama has peaked. Even with the media giving him millions of dollars of free positive PR (that is when they're not absolutely gushing about how wonderful it is that they can absolve themselves of their collective grandfathers' past sins by voting for black guy who doesn't make them feel guilty), and with the Democrat lovefest that NBC and to a lesser extent CNN were shaking orgasmicly over and actively pushing a candidate, he's still only a few points ahead. The Democrats are running scared. Watch their lead shrink as more people pay closer and closer attention over the next 60 days.

Posted by: Eddie Andrews | September 3, 2008 5:36 PM | Report abuse

Palin taunts a political opponent for being overweight and getting cancer:

Not fit to be VP, not even fit to be governor...

Posted by: ouch! | September 3, 2008 5:14 PM | Report abuse

Hehehehe! This is really too much. In my life, some ... OK, most of the hottest and horniest chicks I have ever had actual carnal knowledge of have been preachers kids or "right-wing do-gooder's" kids. You know the type ... brilcreamed hair parted on the right, button-down collars, pinstriped suits, oxblood tassled loafers for casual & wing-tips for dress.... basketball with the kids on Friday nite, titty-bars on Saturday nite, sunday school and church on Sunday Sunday's and everyother nite of the week is for cruisin the bars or banging the neighbor's or boss's wife. You people are so phony you stink. My question is what are you gonna say and/or do now when ur own kids stop hiding their own "sexual activities" from you and start doing it in front of you because of your "new found acceptance" of the behaviour. You won't be able to tell them "cuz I said so" anymore! Damned if you do and Damned if you don't!

Posted by: ricknhouston | September 3, 2008 4:40 PM | Report abuse

Wonder why that real woman has been in hiding for the past three days.

Wonder why McCain is afraid to appear on Larry King if he is so tough.

Obama will be going on Bill O'Lielly's show. McCain is afraid to go on the Larry King show.

What a maverick.

Because that is what a Maverick does. Hides and blames the media.

Posted by: Ken | September 3, 2008 4:08 PM | Report abuse

Ayers never made as much money as the Bush's and Cheneys in there terrorism.

Let's post the numbers of innocent people killed by Cheney and Bush compared to Ayers.

Posted by: Ken | September 3, 2008 4:04 PM | Report abuse

Hey Bruiser,

Care to post the Bush family history with the Bin Ladens, or Saddamn Hussein, or even go back to Prescott Bush and Hitler.

We'll be waiting for your report.

Sit back and watch the idiot spin.

Posted by: Ken | September 3, 2008 4:02 PM | Report abuse

She will lie her ass off like she always does. And the press will ignore it like they always do when Republicans lie.

Posted by: Ken | September 3, 2008 4:00 PM | Report abuse

Palin has to convince the rest of us that she isn't white evangelical trash from a backwater state (the population of which is slightly larger than Nashville, TN).

Posted by: Steve W | September 3, 2008 3:40 PM | Report abuse

Obama vs. McCain. Let’s be fair, objective, and compare apples with apples, oranges with oranges, and expose both presidential candidates to the same (first) executive test to decide on a VPOTUS who is a heartbeat away from the presidency.
Biden was not Obama's first choice. Only after persuaded by Senator Dick Durbin, he eventually warmed up to the idea. Had he put his personal agenda over the country’s interest and only cares about himself and electoral votes, he would have chosen Clinton or Sibelius (female voters), or Richardson (Hispanic voters) or Bayh (Ohio), or Kaine (Virginia). Instead, he showed maturity, sound judgment and thoughtful deliberation by appointing a seasoned VP (who does not necessarily bring significant electoral votes to the table). Biden once even questioned Obama’s experience during the primaries. After the dust settled, Obama keeps his eyes on the ball and expects Biden to compensate for his shorter resume in foreign affairs, all for the sake of the country. Obama’s leadership style is marked by a “country first” spirit, professionalism, maturity, and intellect.
On the other hand, McCain basically has thrown a nasty tantrum, because his original candidates (Lieberman/Ridge) were condemned by the right-wing extremists in the GOP. By picking Palin regardless of whatever consequences the country will face, not only does McCain drops the ball; he rocks the boat of his own party, and puts the country at risk by taking a critical executive decision without due diligence for the sake of “mission accomplished.” McCain’s leadership style is marked by an “ego first” spirit, childish tantrum, and recklessness.
American voters, take your pick: maturity vs. childishness; sound judgement vs. recklessness; deliberation vs. tantrum; country first vs. my-ego first; consensus vs. belligerence; multilateralism vs. unilateralism. The BOTTOM LINE here is not about Palin’s gender or inexperience; instead it is about McCain’s judgment, maturity and coolness under pressure. Who do you want to be your Commander-in-Chief?

Posted by: Tao Zen | September 3, 2008 3:37 PM | Report abuse

Ayres and Cheney have similar resumes!

Posted by: Hoffmann | September 3, 2008 3:19 PM | Report abuse

The sexist hip hop generation better grow up. You little boy liberals are about to get slapped down by a real woman.

Posted by: reason | September 3, 2008 3:13 PM | Report abuse

And Obama doesn’t just know him personally—he’s a close friend with Ayers.

Here is the “resume” of an American terrorist:

7 October 1969 – Bombing of Haymarket Police Statue in Chicago, apparently as a “kickoff” for the “Days of Rage” riots in the city October 8-11, 1969. The Weathermen later claimed credit for the bombing in their book, “Prairie Fire.”

8-11 October 1969 – The “Days of Rage” riots occur in Chicago in which 287 Weatherman members from throughout the country were arrested and a large amount of property damage was done.

6 December 1969 – Bombing of several Chicago Police cars parked in a precinct parking lot at 3600 North Halsted Street, Chicago. The WUO stated in their book “Prairie Fire” that they had did the explosion.

27-31 December 1969 – Weathermen hold a “War Council” meeting in Flint, MI, where they finalize their plans to submerge into an underground status from which they20plan to commit strategic acts of sabotage against the government. Thereafter they are called the “Weather Underground Organization” (WUO).

13 February 1970 - Bombing of several police vehicles of the Berkeley, California, Police Department .

16 February 1970 – Bombing of Golden Gate Park branch of the San Francisco Police Department, killing one officer and injuring a number of other policemen.

6 March 1970 – Bombing in the 13th Police District of the Detroit, Michigan. 34 sticks of dynamite are discovered. During February and early March, 1970, members of the WUO, led by Bill Ayers, are reported to be in Detroit, during that period, for the purpose of bombing a police facility.

6 March 1970 – “bomb factory” located in New York’s Greenwich Village accidentally explodes. WUO members die . The bomb was intended to be planted at a non-commissioned officer’s dance at Fort Dix, New Jersey. The bomb was packed with nails TO INFILICT MAXIMUM CASUALTIES UPON DETONATION.

30 March 1970 – Chicago Police discover a WUO bomb factory” on Chicago’s north side. A subsequent discovery of a WUO “weapons cache” in a south side Chicago apartment several days later ends WUO activity in the city.

10 May 1970 – Bombing of The National Guard Association building in Washington, D.C..

21 May 1970 – The WUO under Bernardine Dohrn’s (Ayers’ current wife) name releases its “Declaration of a State of War” communique.

6 June 1970 – The WUO sends a letter claiming credit for bombing of the San Francisco Hall of Justice; however, no explosion actually took place. Months later, workmen in this building located an unexploded device which had apparently been dormant for some time.

9 June 1970 - Bombing of The New York City Police Headquarters.

27 July 1970 - Bombing of The Presidio army base in San Francisco. [NYT, 7/27/70]

12 September 1970 – The WUO helps Dr. Timothy Leary, break out and escape from the California Men’s Colony prison .

8 October 1970 - Bombing of Marin County courthouse. [NYT, 8/10/70]

10 October 1970 - Bombing of Queens traffic-court building . [NYT, 10/10/70, p. 12]

14 October 1970 - Bombing of The Harvard Center for International Affairs [NYT, 10/14/70, p. 30]

1 March 1971 - Bombing of The United States Capitol . “ [NYT, 3/2/71]

April, 1971 – abandoned WUO “bomb factory” discovered in San Francisco, California.

29 August, 1971 - Bombing of the Office of California Prisons . [LAT, 8/29/71]

17 September 1971 - Bombing of The New York Department of Corrections in Albany, NY [NYT, 9/18/71]

15 October 1971 - Bombing of William Bundy’s office in the MIT research center. [NYT, 10/16/71]

19 May 1972 - Bombing of The Pentagon . [NYT, 5/19/72]

18 May 1973 - Bombing of the 103rd Police Precinct in New York

28 September 1973 - Bombing of ITT headquarters in New York and Rome, Italy . [NYT, 9/28/73]

6 March 1974 - Bombing of the Department of Health, Education and Welfare offices in San Francisco

31 May 1974 - Bombing of The Office of the California Attorney General.

17 June 1974 - Bombing of Gulf Oil’s Pittsburgh headquarters .

11 September 1974 – Bombing of Anaconda Corporation (part of the Rockefeller Corporation).

29 January 1975 - Bombing of the State Department in (AP. “State Department Rattled by Blast,” The Daily Times-News, January 29 1975, p.1)

16 June 1975 - Bombing of Banco de Ponce (a Puerto Rican bank) in New York .

September, 1975 – Bombing of the Kennecott Corporation .

October 20, 1981 - Brinks robbery in which several members of the Weather Underground stole over $1 million from a Brinks armored car near Nyack, New York. The robbers murdered 2 police officers and 1 Brinks guard. Several others were wounded.

1981 “Guilty as hel*. Free as a bird. America is a great country,” Ayers said when interviewed by David Horowitz.

September 11, 2001 “I don’t regret setting bombs. I feel we didn’t do enough.” Ayers is quoted in a New York Times article.

Message to the News Media: Instead of trying to dig up dirt on Sarah Palin, why don’t you cover indepth stories such as the Obama-Ayers relationship just for starters. If you need more leads for stories regarding Senator Obama and other unsavory characters, contact me at this publication.

Posted by: BruiserND | September 3, 2008 2:54 PM | Report abuse

king my point is that McCain could have done much much better and could have selected a conservative ready on day 1 but his decision was instead determined by the hard right antiabortion wing of the GOP. You have got to be kidding if you think anyone believes she is the best VP choice your party had.It was disapponiting to say the least and once again a ury Political choice and nothing more.

And to democratformccain I was there til last week.This has nothing to do wth gender I would feel the exact same way about a lightweight male being selected. You are bing manipulated and every Clinon suporter I have spoken with knew he would select a woman precisely to generate the response you are posting. It has really brought into question the caliber of cabinet members he would select and whether Meyers name would resurface for the S. Ct. or someone similar with her shallow resume.

Posted by: Leichtman | September 3, 2008 2:54 PM | Report abuse

Ooh! Ooh! Can I answer david e's question? Is it because the Republicans are not nearly as enthusiastic John McCain as the Democrats are about Barack Obama? Is it because their go-to chant from 2004, "Four More Years," would remind the voters too much of George W. Bush? Is it because "P-O-DUB" sounds too goofy? Or is it, as I would surmise, because a two-syllable name like "McCain" doesn't lend itself to a chant as easily as a three-syllable name like "Obama?"

I apologize for the antagonistic nature of the first three guesses, but the question was so hilarious that I couldn't respond without a joke or two. 'Tis all in good fun, right?

Posted by: VBArthur | September 3, 2008 2:50 PM | Report abuse

DEMOCRAT NOW FOR McCAIN/PALIN hey you left out that he currently discriminates against Hispanics denying them the same rights as non hispanics...

Posted by: Anonymous | September 3, 2008 2:48 PM | Report abuse

Ah, Fred Thompson. I wonder if Republicans would be decrying Barack Obama as a "celebrity" had Thompson won their party's primary. Thompson was getting that "He's a celebrity! He's the perfect choice!" buzz back when Hillary Clinton was still considered the Democratic frontrunner by far.

It's fitting, I suppose, that George W. Bush has chosen the term "the angry left" to describe the opponents of John McCain; the left is mightily angry about the last eight years, and many are not above blaming Bush and his administration for things that are not their fault. But given Bush's spectacularly low approval ratings, I would endeavor to say it isn't just the left that's angry right now. More to the point, making the voters angry is a consistent and proven method used by Republicans to get their candidates elected -- how many neoconservatives are driven to the voting booth out of anger, told that if they don't go cast their votes to the contrary, evil liberals will kill their babies, surrender to the terrorists and let gays get married in their backyards? I wouldn't presume to tell anyone what they should or shouldn't get angry about, but it seems kind of silly to slam the other side for being angry when one's own side is known to use anger as a highly effective election tool.

Posted by: VBArthur | September 3, 2008 2:42 PM | Report abuse

I thought Obama and his homies were not going to get negative? That he was a new kind of politician? Does it seem like the old Chicago style thug politicians are back? why do Obamabots chant " Obama" and the republicans chant "USA"?

Posted by: david e | September 3, 2008 2:34 PM | Report abuse

Barack Hussein Obama, who grew up in Jakarta, Indonesia, where he lived from
the age of 2 until 10 years of age (the world's most populous Islamic nation).

Barack Hussein Obama then moved to Hawaii where his childhood mentor was Frank Marshall Davis, an enthusiastic member of the Communist Party.

After that Obama was associated for 20 years with his self proclaimed mentor, Jeremiah Wright. Jeremiah Wright married the Obama's, and baptized their children. Obama's book, "The Audacity of Hope", is based on one of his Wright's sermons.

Obama is close friends with Tony Rezko, who is under felony prosecution. Another Obama friend and associate is William Ayers, founder of the terrorist group Weatherman, and guilty of being involved in numerous bombings -- none of which he regrets.

THOSE ARE THE FACTS! You may not like the facts, and hate to see them published, but those are the facts! The simple facts...

Posted by: Swing Voter | September 3, 2008 2:30 PM | Report abuse

I was a Hillary supporter. I left the Democrat party after they sat by and let their own Party and the media slam her for no other reason than she was a woman and they wanted Obama. The EXTRA pledged delegates he was GIVEN because he was black were not enough for them or the media.
Now we see it with Sarah Palin.
Well the answer is NO! We will not stand by and let women be pawns and punching bags all in the name of protecting unqualified Barrack Hussein Obama.

Where is the media on Obama? WHEN have they EVER asked the tough questions or REPORTED LOTS of ISSUES regarding Obama!!
They sat on the Wright story while Americans VOTED! What kind of a Media does this?
Let's see.......
Cannot use his middle name (oops)
SINCLAIR? and Gay relationship (NY Times where is the FRONT PAGE News story?
Gay Youth Minister from Omama's church murdered in December?
Wright and his BLACK FIRST AGENDA that Obama BELIEVES IN, but says he is for ALL Americans
Black Liberation Theology which means he puts down hispanics, latinos, whites and asians jews and catholics
Ayers and bombing in America - what a friend we have in America
Obama sat on Ayers board and gave out 46 million dollars to WHO?
Where is the "TRANSPARENCY" of Obama's schedule in the State and U S Senate. We re still waiting. MEDIA?
Obama did NOTHING for Americans after 911 but listen to HATE about Americans!
Bitter Americans
Mean America
Rezko and a mansion for his family
Crack Cocaine
Voted Present 100 times (oops. Mr. I am so smart and so educated "hit the wrong button")
Not Proud of country (Yes, the country he wants to run!)
NO experience
called women "sweetie"
made fun of Hillary Clinton because she cried (BUT HE CRIES!)
Followed racist black liberation theology for 20 YEARS but calls President Clinton racist?
Pulls the race card whenever possible
Spent MILLIONS on a stage to suit his oversized ego
Took his own children to hear HATE about America

And has a brother in Kenya living in poverty while he lives in a mansion! MEDIA, Tell the protesters!!

Obama is NOT qualified. And becoming SEXIST in the Democrat Party and in the BIASED MEDIA will NOT change this! The media can no longer be trusted! And Obama certainly cannot!

Posted by: DEMOCRAT NOW FOR McCAIN/PALIN | September 3, 2008 2:28 PM | Report abuse


Good evening. America is great. [applause] This is the greatest country in the world. [applause]
We have the most powerful military in the world. [applause] We have the most powerful military in the history of mankind. [applause] […shouting over the applause] We have the most powerful military in the universe. [raucous applause]
And we never say we were wrong like those weaklings, the Democrats. Because we are always right. [applause] We never have to apologize for America like some people running for president (oops, sorry this was an actual quote from Fred Thompson… OK a paraphrase).
Yes, we are always right. [applause] And we will use our most powerful military to annihilate anyone who says we are wrong, or ever were wrong, about anything! [applause] Support the troops!!! [wild applause]
So… we are strong, great – I mean, the greatest, ever, really – and we are right. Always. [applause]
Oh… and God is on our side. And against everyone else. He is OUR God. Not theirs.
God bless America!!! [thunderous applause erupts into standing ovation].

Posted by: AdrickHenry | September 3, 2008 2:27 PM | Report abuse

Certain bloggers/reporters/so-called-media constituents are at it again. They are making up stories about another woman candidate, solely for the purpose of SMEARING THAT CANDIDATE BECAUSE SHE'S A WOMAN!!


Whether you think Governor Palin should be the VP or not, YOU MUST DEMAND EQUAL TREATMENT FOR HER!! STAND UP FOR WOMEN!!

Barack Obama and the media DESTROYED Hillary.

Don't let the media do the same thing to another woman candidate!!

Posted by: Lilian | September 3, 2008 2:16 PM

Hep us here, Lilian ... which of "stories" have been made up? other than those made up by the Republicants that she was "fully vetted" ... that they "knew in advance" about the unwed pregnant daughter... that she "had always been against the Bridge to Nowhere" ... that they knew in advance about "troopergate" and the "Stevens 527". Which of those are lies?

Posted by: ricknhouston | September 3, 2008 2:26 PM | Report abuse

Her speech will carefully crafted and contain none of her own words. I'm waiting for the debate with Biden.

Posted by: John | September 3, 2008 2:16 PM | Report abuse

To: Women of America, and Women all over the world who seek to be Free from the oppression that defines the way certain men in media and in power continue to treat women.

Ladies, if you take a look at the situation in today's media you will find a commonality.

Something just under the surface will tug at your conscience as if to say "this is strikingly familiar", and the pale and gruesome reality is that IT IS!

Remember when Hillary, a stellar candidate for the Presidential nomination, was at the height of her contest for the primary? Well do you remember what the media and bloggers did to her? It wasn't pretty, and more painfully, it WASN'T RIGHT!!!


Certain bloggers/reporters/so-called-media constituents are at it again. They are making up stories about another woman candidate, solely for the purpose of SMEARING THAT CANDIDATE BECAUSE SHE'S A WOMAN!!


Whether you think Governor Palin should be the VP or not, YOU MUST DEMAND EQUAL TREATMENT FOR HER!! STAND UP FOR WOMEN!!

Barack Obama and the media DESTROYED Hillary.

Don't let the media do the same thing to another woman candidate!!

Posted by: Lilian | September 3, 2008 2:16 PM | Report abuse

Leichtman - are you laboring under the impression that campaigns only distribute the unvarnished truth on every single matter?

how would anyone ever get elected?

Nevertheless, I like her and predicted she would be the one (THE ONE) long ago. do you think the press is simply pissed off they missed it by so much? Do they ever get anything right anymore? Kind of hard to get the facts when you are surfing porn and the Sun at your desk in your office.

Posted by: kingofzouk | September 3, 2008 2:15 PM | Report abuse

If a gigantic bore like Fred Thompson can "steal the night" the republicans have A LOT to worry about.

Posted by: Bill | September 3, 2008 2:14 PM | Report abuse

If I were a betting person, this lomng shot could bring good returns.
Just to really shake things up, let's take a look at what might happen because of all the media on her and her family.
In a few weeks Governor Palin will step up to the microphone and step back from the nomination. She will claim it is either because of her young child with Down's Syndrome, her young daughter's pending parenthood, or just the realization that her family is just too important for her to lose time with them for a minimum of four year while performing the job of V.P.
What will senator McCain do? This fine upstanding woman has chosen to pass up a great honor as her family just has to come first. He will be put on the spot no longer having a running mate, but he will perform admirably in rapidly picking another choice to fill role of his running mate. And with so little time before the election, what else could he do? Who he chooses may not be a favoured choice of the party, but the vote must go on and the new choice must be accepted if the Republican party is going to keep doing what is right for this country.
As I said, if I was a betting person...

Posted by: T Havik | September 3, 2008 2:12 PM | Report abuse

It pains me greatly to say this, but the truth hurts sometimes: this country it just too conservative for the Bush Disaster to have any real meaning.

Imagine a Democrat had spent the last 8 years running up 5 trillion in debt and stumbling through two wars. An electoral wash-out would be the least of the party's problems. Republicans can turn in the sort of performance we saw from 2001 to today and still be viable on the national stage. If Reagan proved deficits don't matter, Bush and Cheney proved incompetence doesn't matter. The political mythology in this country still genuinely believes Republicans love America and Democrats love sushi. I've simply seen too many highly intelligent people so locked into this view that they still cannot admit voting for W was mistake. They still believe Kerry and Gore would have been worse.

It's over, people. In two weeks Obama will be down 5, and that's where it will stay until Election Day.

Posted by: David | September 3, 2008 2:12 PM | Report abuse

Age , smage, who cares, besides McCain is already older than his father and grandfather who passed away younger than John. Hey, she could go all the way.

John also takes ambien to sleep, so if he got he call at 3 AM, could he wake up, and remeber it?

You go girl!

Posted by: Grandpa Al Lewis | September 3, 2008 2:11 PM | Report abuse

What's the diffrence between Obamas '17 year old Mamma and 17 year old Bristol Palin?

Where Obama thinks he can rebuild the country with hope, looks to me like we have the candidates who will roll up their sleeves and get the job done. We have a gun-toting, NRA candidate with a native American husband who is a long-standing UNION member, a handicapped child and a pregnant teenager. Gee, I wonder if average Americans can identify with Sarah, or Barack? Are we having fun yet? Oh, yea.

Posted by: BruiserND | September 3, 2008 2:10 PM | Report abuse

I was pleased that the President used the term "angry left". In the same vein as the term islamist extremist, we have found that by naming the enemy, we can then recognize and defeat them.

so angry leftists - bring it on!!!

the Sarah Surge will render them impotent. the ones that aren't already, that is. and for once I am not talking about foreign policy, for which impotence is in the DNC platform.

Posted by: kingofzouk | September 3, 2008 2:10 PM | Report abuse

Obama is behind this witchhunt of Sarah. She is better than him as a VP and even President for that matter.

Posted by: Werner | September 3, 2008 2:08 PM | Report abuse

king it doesn't matter til it matters. Something like 7 of the last 23 POTUS have been replaced by the VP, not insignificant odds. At least you are being honest in saying it is all about politics. I don't recall hearing that from your campaign. Most Americans actually care about governance over politics; apparently not you or the GOP.
It was Rockefeller and Mondale incidentally.

Posted by: Leichtman | September 3, 2008 2:06 PM | Report abuse

The Republicans are laboring under the illusion that their party is still relevant. It's not. It is entirely fitting that the headliner for this masquerade is a feeble looking 72-year-old white guy who doesn't know how many homes he owns. ...

Republicans stand to be turned out of office at every level---from the U.S. Congress to governors' mansions and state legislatures. Republicans who remain in office will be rendered impotent by their shrinking numbers.

Republicans under George W. Bush have done a lot of damage to this country in the last eight years---but they have done more damage to themselves. It will take a good long while and a great deal of soul searching before their brand returns to the shelves in good standing. Don't look for it to happen in St. Paul, Minnesota. This week, Republicans will be happy in the land of make believe.

Posted by: McCain = Bush's third term | September 3, 2008 2:00 PM | Report abuse

Both of my older brothers served in VietNam too! One was killed in his first week there, the other served two tours then came home with Melanoma Cancer he got from bombs filled with the Monsanto made "Agent Orange" (available today at your local home & garden center under the name of "Round-up")that McCain dropped all over him then flew away into the wild blue yonder so as not to get any of it on themselves. Ever see anyone die of Melanoma? It ain't pretty! The soldiers on the ground, in the jungles! They were the true heros of VietNam! John McCain is a fraud and an oportunist and I spit in his face!

Posted by: ricknhouston | September 3, 2008 1:58 PM | Report abuse

What I saw and heard at the RNC last night was people that like John McCain, from early in life, put their own lives on the line and paid a lifetime of service to America for FREEDOM.

Honorable people that are humble, and who don't expect a big media circus or a bunch of "hype" to tell their story. People who've fought, tooth and nail, and who have nearly died to protect our Constitution and the Amercian way of life.

I also saw those people pay tribute, on behalf of America, to those who have fallen in the line of service to our country. God Bless their souls.

What I see in the media today is sickening because no one that enjoys the Freedom of being American should be disrespecting our service members and those who uphold our way of life the way these jokers are doing.

And for those who show such utter disrespect for an American Governor, you should be ashamed of yourself. You should not be so shortsighted as to be living your life by what you see on tv or what you hear in a familiar song.

You ridicule Governor Palin when you should be ridiculed yourself, because obviously you didn't learn respect for others from your parents.

It is a shameful time for America indeed. It's like President Reagan said: "We are only one generation away from not being a free country anymore."

For those who are despicable enough to try and make a spectacle out of a person just because of their gender and/or race, you are the reason that our America needs change.

What I saw last night, and the actions of John McCain for a lifetime of service is the EMBODIMENT of CHANGE.

The leftists are so stunned by the action of change that their head are left spinning and they can only spew nonsense to fill the void of their own shallowness.

Posted by: Rourke | September 3, 2008 1:57 PM | Report abuse

The Democratic party and its legions are in a pathetic state. They have chosen a lightweight candidate in Barrack Hussein Obama, and they know full well he's a inexperienced, unaccomplished ultra-liberal. He can never get elected on who he really is and what he's done, so instead they just try to smear their opponents. But it's 'gonna backfire on them big time...

You can tell how pathetic their position is by the constant name calling, like little bratty children. So this time, for the first time, I'm going to vote Republican and hope the Democrats clean up their act for the future. I'm ashamed to be associated anymore with the Democratic Party...

Posted by: Lifelong Democrat | September 3, 2008 1:55 PM | Report abuse

I totally disagree with this article. Fred T. should just go back to acting. He has no place in politics.

Posted by: Mona | September 3, 2008 1:53 PM | Report abuse


"Just so I can understand liberal "logic"; explain to me 1) how Kennedy can murder a young woman and be re-elected 25 times as a Democratic senator, 2) how Robert Byrd can serve as a kleagle in the KKK and be the Democrats longest sitting senator 3) if a teenage kid of a Republican gets caught doing what virtually all teenagers have done - somehow her mother’s character, values, and ability to govern are called into question. "

Most anything is OK with liberals if it benefits them.


Posted by: Billw | September 3, 2008 1:49 PM | Report abuse


Most anything goed with the leftists. That includes trashing a teenage girl who got "unlucky". Just like the unprincipled Obama's association with Wright and Ayers. Birds of a feather flock together. Trash supports trash.


Posted by: Billw | September 3, 2008 1:46 PM | Report abuse

"He looks like a fat, lazy, Kentucky inbred down baby who was born with "fetal alcohol syndrome" "

Ladies and gentlmen, the voice of the American left.

Posted by: JD | September 3, 2008 1:46 PM | Report abuse

I think that Palins reform credentials are being proven to be at best iffy and at worst erroneous based on the stuff now coming out of Alaska.

She introduced lobbying for a town that previously had none. She ran Stevens 527 and was an ally until it was apparent he was going down, when she did the politically expedient thing to do. She seems to have a strong reputation for cronyism that resembles the Bush Justice department.

As for being a deficit hawk and tax cutter - she took a town with no debt and during her term raised it to 20mil. The Alaskan budget is said to be rising at about 10% per annum accourding to some in the legislature. She cut property taxes (a move which mainly benefits the rich) and raised sales taxes (which hits the poor harder- unless they stop buying food to avoid taxes). And I believe she is simultaneously borrowing money for the state while giving every Alaskan a large check for oil money.

Did the McCain campaign even try to do research?

Posted by: bluemeanies | September 3, 2008 1:46 PM | Report abuse

Just so I can understand liberal "logic"; explain to me 1) how Kennedy can murder a young woman and be re-elected 25 times as a Democratic senator, 2) how Robert Byrd can serve as a kleagle in the KKK and be the Democrats longest sitting senator 3) if a teenage kid of a Republican gets caught doing what virtually all teenagers have done - somehow her mother’s character, values, and ability to govern are called into question.

It has long been obvious that the liberals today live by a double standard. After what they did to Hillary, I am just trying to figure out if it is sexism or just a loathing of Republicans.

Is this the same "logic” that calls GWB a war monger equal to Hitler when it seemed perfectly fine that, after 55 million had already been killed under FDR, Truman incinerated 300,000 civilians in an instant (Remember that liberal credo "the end does not justify the means") while Kennedy and Johnson killed millions more in Vietnam?

Is this the same "logic" that says “we must keep people from developing or farming the wilderness so only a select few can use that land when they camp and hike”?

Is this the same “logic” that has liberals screaming about the price of oil and the environment in the same breath?

Is this the same “logic” that allows liberal, coffee shop elitist to walk into Starbucks and pay over $50 a gallon for a cup of coffee and sit around and complain about $3.00 a gallon for gas?

Is this the same “logic” that made hippies the icons of the left as they drove VW beetles with pro environment decals pasted all over the knowing it was the undeniable worst polluting automobile ever manufactured?

Is this the same “logic” that says Democrats are for civil rights when Lincoln was a Republican and the Civil Rights act of 1964 almost failed because of fierce opposition and filibustering from Democrats?

Is this the same "logic" that says we must do everything we can to save the life of some obscure snail that nobody has ever or will ever see or someone who has murdered numerous people but it's perfectly fine to suck the brains out of unborn children in an effort to kill them and call it an a abortion?

Is this the same “logic” that says abstinence only sex education doesn’t work when virtually every girl who becomes pregnant had been taught endlessly about birth control meaning that that isn’t working either but you never seem to mention that in all your rants?

Is this the same “logic” that says liberalism is about individual freedom and the uncensored expression of one’s beliefs in an effort to make the country a better place but it is complete fine to openly encourage that conservatives be ridiculed for practicing their own form of religion, expressing their opinions towards public education, the war, welfare, the death penalty, abortion, etc, etc, etc?

Is this the same “logic” that makes the National Organization of Women say women get inferior care because the health care industry is biased towards men yet men live on average 7 years less than woman?

Is this the same “logic” that espouses redistribution of wealth but never seems to get around to addressing investment of time, commitment of money, risk of losing everything, or endless liability?

Is this the same “logic” that caused Obama to pick Biden who received less than 900 votes and was the first candidate to drop out the Democratic primaries yet walk away from Hillary who had 18,000,000 votes?

Is this the same “logic” that required the networks to run stories and air the photos of the underwear laden prisoners at Abu grab 100 times more than the stories regarding the decapitated civilian prisoners of Al Qaeda?

Is this the same “logic” that demanded we not quarantine AIDS victims when the virus was first exposed in the early 80”s because it would be a violation of human rights, so instead 10’s of millions of additional people have been killed by the virus?

Is this the same “logic” that dictates only a woman has a right to control her own body and decide on abortion, but if she becomes pregnant and decides to keep the baby then a man has to pay her for that decision for the next 18+ years?

If it is, now I see why the Democrats would nominate someone with literally no experience to lead the country and who has a verified history of participation in racist’s organizations and has chronicled a life which has been led by mentors who are communist’s sympathizers, convicted felons, and anti American religious zealots. Now it’s perfectly clear.

Posted by: robt | September 3, 2008 1:45 PM | Report abuse

"At 6'5" tall and with a deep baritone voice, he looks like a president."
**********************************Are you Phuking kidding me ??? He looks like a fat, lazy, Kentucky inbred down baby who was born with "fetal alcohol syndrome" and who's definition of a good time is driving around town in his old red pick-up. Good God spare us from these nitwits!

Posted by: ricknhouston | September 3, 2008 1:42 PM | Report abuse

I think Palin is just what we need. New honest,hard working,a lady,cares about family and really cares about issues, not just talk... As a woman I hope all women really listen to her and look beyond the party lines, and you will see our next VP of this United States!!!!You GO GIRL!!!!!YOU ROCK!!! Please forgive the negative on the liberal side, look at it this way, the more they say negative about Palin, the closer she gets into the White

Posted by: mary | September 3, 2008 1:40 PM | Report abuse

Can you just imagine

what the republican talk heads would be saying

if it was the case that Hillary was the VP pick

& her daughter was pregnant out of wed lock?

Think that over

Posted by: mr.C's | September 3, 2008 1:39 PM | Report abuse

I have loads more experience than that hockey jock who knocked her up.

vote for me!

Posted by: snObama | September 3, 2008 1:38 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: scrivener | September 3, 2008 1:38 PM | Report abuse

when was a VP pick ever about governance? It is always about politics.

Any stooge can be VP, for example gore, quayle, Bush, Mondale, Agnew, even biden and yes Palin. the republic will go on.

I can't even remember who carter and ford had. Like it mattered.

Posted by: kingofzouk | September 3, 2008 1:37 PM | Report abuse

Sensing a loss in this area too, some savvy Obama supporters are now trying to paint it as a campaign between Obama and Palin's future son in law.

Posted by: Who is next? | September 3, 2008 1:23 PM

Hey "Who is next?" Your're right. I was wrong in bringing up Palin's family issues. Obama-Biden should go head to head against McCain-Palin and win that way. My post was more about the fantasy of conservative values than Palin as a candidate. I withdraw my post and should follow the classy example of Obama and leave the family out of it.

Posted by: Arlingdude | September 3, 2008 1:36 PM | Report abuse

Although I fear no one, I do fear nobama becoming pres and removing the troops too early. i also fear that nobama will cause nothing but chaos and confusion and will wreak havoc on this nation's integrity. nobama is not to be trusted. nobama will not give a straight forward answer because he has no answer.

Praise God there are real men like John McCain and there are real women like Sarah Palin.

Posted by: Rick | September 3, 2008 1:36 PM | Report abuse

"Boring. Fred Thompson couldn't get more than a few votes in the primaries. His monotonic drawl puts you to sleep. The only reason he was speaking at the RNC was because he's an celebrity, an actor, a professional faker."

Replace the word actor with plagiarist and I would have thought you were talking about Joe Biden.

Posted by: Was Biden vetted? | September 3, 2008 1:36 PM | Report abuse

Why is a visceral, shrill attack by an unremarkable Fred Thompson on a remarkable cerebral candidate, Barack Obama, considered 'remarkable?'

Most serving in the Bush administration got deferments from the Vietnam War. Senator Lieberman received a marriage deferment, then subsequently divorced her. Oh! That patriotic neocon who now want McCain to become president so we can go to war with Iran and perhaps Russia. Has he no shame? At long last, has he no decency?

My 19-year-old brother fought in the jungles of Vietnam and is also a 'hero,' but he doesn't exploit that experience because he is acutely aware that over 57,000 young men died in that "war of choice, not necessity."

Posted by: Chagrined | September 3, 2008 1:35 PM | Report abuse

This quoted from Sara Palins Pastor, This is what Sara Palin not only believes but openly supports.
"What you see in a terrorist -- that's called the invisible enemy. There has always been an invisible enemy. What you see in Iraq, basically, is a manifestation of what's going on in this unseen world called the spirit world. ... We need to think like Jesus thinks. We are in a time and a season of war, and we need to think like that. We need to develop that instinct. We need to develop as believers the instinct that we are at war, and that war is contending for your faith. ... Jesus called us to die. You're worried about getting hurt? He's called us to die. Listen, you know we can't even follow him unless you are willing to give up your life. ... I believe that Jesus himself operated from that position of war mode. Everyone say "war mode."
Yea i want someone (Palin) who openly supports holy wars to be in control of our nukes... and who cares what her pastor said, on this same link SHE say's it. Video of her calling the Iraq war "gods will" and gods will be done, I guess...

Posted by: Creamsykle | September 3, 2008 1:35 PM | Report abuse

the gauntlet is laid down. we have the Republican party of:

substance <<<<<<<< Oil cronyism
military success <<<<<<<< Failed Iraq war
economic progress <<<<<<<< Worst economy since 1929
accomplishment <<<<<<<< Crony judges
character <<<<<<<< Scooter Libby
experience <<<<<<<< All of the above

Posted by: Jjim | September 3, 2008 1:33 PM | Report abuse

What bothers the libs on this and other blogs the most about what Thompson, Lieberman, and many other GOP convention speakers have been saying about Barack Obama is that it's the truth about their candidate. Their guy is a total empty suit and the most unqualified presidential candidate that has ever run for president in the history of the USA. The only reason he has become the Democraps nominee is because he's black and is a good speaker. His entire political history that propelled him into the Illinois State Senate and then into his 2 year seat as US Senator from Illinois is in fact one only a black could have gotten away with. No non-black person running for any political office in America could have gotten elected dog catcher who was a 20 year member and supporter of a racist white--hating and America--hating cult like TUFC Church that supported the likes of a racist America--hater like Louis Farrakhan. No non-black could have been elected with only a bit of "community organizer" experience, which is political experience most people in Chicago or anyplace else can also claim. No non-black could have been nominated who was a friend, assocciate, and business partner of a America--hating terrorist nut-case like Bill Ayers, or a America--hater and racist white--hater like Jerimiah Wright Jr. If Barack Obama where white, Hispanic, or Asian there's not a snowball's chance in he** that he would have been even consitered for any elected office by the liberals and Democraps. If John McCain had had a 20 year history of supporting a racist WHITE CULT that was preaching hatred against BLACKS and hatred of America, as is Obama's history, the liberals and Democraps here would be going crazy with outraged crocodile teared hysteria. The only reason they overlook and pooh-pooh Obama's racist and America--hating 20 year past is because he's a politically correct black and that's racist.

Posted by: madhatter | September 3, 2008 1:32 PM | Report abuse

"did you see any black people, hispanic people, asian people or anybody other than white people? "

you mean other than supreme court judges, secretaries of state, cabinet ministers, governors, etc.?

Or do you mean pawns positioned just right behind the podium for effect?

Posted by: silly libs | September 3, 2008 1:31 PM | Report abuse

king I heard Rove even say this selection was all about pure politics not governance. Again why Palin over Ridge; Itin you nw the ral answer. Can you honesty say that she is more knowledegable about the Credit Crisis and Fannie Mae then Ridge? That as a voter is a real issue thatAmericans care about not whether she took Earmarks, can hunt, shoot hoops, and we are leaning that as governor she actually took 100% of the money for the famous bidge to no where not exactly real reform we hear about. As long as McCain's health holds on I would be OK with him; I am just not wlling to roll the dice with a neophyte from the fringe of your party anymore then Meyers was ready to sit on the Supreme Ct, and anymore then you would honestly have accepted Kusinich, honesty. And why in the world would we care what the idiots like Olberman or O Reily think, none of them are real/objective journalists, only partisan apologists for their favorite politician de jeur. I am trying to be objective.

Posted by: Leichtman | September 3, 2008 1:29 PM | Report abuse

News flash - the Palin minor is nobodies concern but her own and her parents.

ignorant hypocrite Libs

Posted by: Anonymous ass | September 3, 2008 1:29 PM | Report abuse

Marcus, News flash John Edwards is not running for the second highest office in America. GOP lies,denies. John McSenile puts the OLD in the grand OLD party.
Connie from Indiana

Posted by: Anonymous | September 3, 2008 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Chris - Can I ask you an intellegent question? Last night coverage, other than the Mccains step daughter, did you see any black people, hispanic people, asian people or anybody other than white people? I think this is a legitmate question that needs to be addressed. The RNC should really work on their stage craft, cause how this convention played in our house, three people brought it up. If there was drinking game to drink shots after spotting someone of color, we would all be sober and very very thirsty. Thanks for you time.

Posted by: latinovoter | September 3, 2008 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Boring. Fred Thompson couldn't get more than a few votes in the primaries. His monotonic drawl puts you to sleep. The only reason he was speaking at the RNC was because he's an celebrity, an actor, a professional faker.

He said that everything is just fine in America if only the 'angry left' would just shut up. Republicans don't have a clue.

Bush/Cheney/McCain. No More Years!

Posted by: thebob.bob | September 3, 2008 1:23 PM | Report abuse

First Obama supporters had Obama running against McCain, that wasn't a fair comparison for them, so next they tried to pit the race as Obama vs. Palin, but alas Obama couldn't hold up, so now it is Obama vs. Palin's 17 year old daughter. Sensing a loss in this area too, some savvy Obama supporters are now trying to paint it as a campaign between Obama and Palin's future son in law.

Posted by: Who is next? | September 3, 2008 1:23 PM | Report abuse


Posted by: trisha | September 3, 2008 1:20 PM | Report abuse

Fred Thompson is always better in the movies than he is in real life. His comments were fodder for the Republican cannon. It amazed me that he must have choked 70 or more times as he tried to spit out the bs he was selling to the public. It must be hard not to choke on such garbage.

Posted by: Darrell Hitchens | September 3, 2008 1:19 PM | Report abuse

um, protesting in st. paul does not make the GOP look bad. the idiots protesting and getting arresting are making the left wing look terrible.

Posted by: trisha | September 3, 2008 1:19 PM | Report abuse

So Sarah's daughter is pregnant and is going to be a responsible person and take care of the baby.
Maybe the rubber broke, or maybe she wanted to get pregnant because they planned to marry anyway. She was of consenting age upon conception so no one is breaking the law.

Unlike John Edwards, who impregnates, LIES TO THE WORLD, and then denies everything.

Posted by: Marcus | September 3, 2008 1:17 PM | Report abuse

lol Fred Thompson is an actor. He was great as a grumpy old idiot in Law and Order. No reason he can't be great as a grumpy old idiot when you prop him up behind a podium and stick lines in front of his face. Especially to *that* audience.

Posted by: Chris | September 3, 2008 1:17 PM | Report abuse

Convention Cheat Sheet: Fred Steals The Night.

Really?.. so far this convention has been a great sleep aide. Fred is a blowhard actor and Lieberman was a snore in 2000 and remains a snore in 2008.

Posted by: AGM | September 3, 2008 1:16 PM | Report abuse

Take Joe Lieberman, PLEEZE!!!!!!!!!

Henny Youngman

Posted by: Jersey John | September 3, 2008 1:14 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, yeah, yeah.... More of the same lying junk from the Grand Oil Party and their theocratic partners. Pfui!

Whoever put "military success" as an attribute of the Republicans must think that spending trillions of dollars and thousands of our service personnel's lives is worth it to enrich Halliburton and Blackwater while making Iran the dominant power in the Gulf.

Mission accomplished!

Posted by: Larry-t | September 3, 2008 1:13 PM | Report abuse

Joe Lieberman another gray haired old fool, can't remember if he is democrat or independent,Graham should have been there to whisper in his ear.Why do John McSenile,Joe Lieberman keep saying we our their friends ?Connie from indiana

Posted by: Anonymous | September 3, 2008 1:12 PM | Report abuse

I wanted to come to the convention with my kid but they wouldn't let me.

Posted by: John Edwards | September 3, 2008 1:08 PM | Report abuse

BTW, my voting record is Reagan, Dukakis, Clinton, Bush, Kerry.

Posted by: Arlingdude | September 3, 2008 12:52 PM

In other words, you are very confused, have trouble making decisions and don't know what the hell is going on. We could have guessed that by your schizo post.

Posted by: ennee meene miney moe | September 3, 2008 1:07 PM | Report abuse

The Republicans have not shame - the entire party flip flopped on the issue of experience. ..............

Posted by: Ohg Rea Tone | September 3, 2008 1:05 PM | Report abuse

To hoffman: I strongly agree with you on the Bush administration being murders. Now the American people have the choice to put more of the same in the white house or change.Fred Thompson flat out lied about what Obama said about being above the pay grade, that it was above his pay grade to say when life begins.If they do not want Palin's children to be center stage why do they keep pushing it , like bringing the father of her daughters child to the convention? GOP the party of lying,denying and distrust. Connie from Indiana

Posted by: Anonymous | September 3, 2008 1:03 PM | Report abuse

Leichtman: contrary to your thoughts about me, I would have appreciated his choice of Kucinich, who is principled and honest, albeit misguided. the choice barack made is totally contrary to his stated message. I personally have nothing against liberal politicians who defend their positions and operate honestly, I just disagree with them.

On the other hand, Palin is regarded as a reformer and a budget cutter. what more could Mccain want to take over the change meme, now totally abandoned by the Libs.

the bottom feeding press is desperate to throw her off her game because they feel like they deserve to have women and blacks make it thanks to them only.
the regard for journalists (if you can still call them that) has sunk to an all time low, along with the Dem congress. Meanwhile O'Reilly and Rush have the highest rated shows by far. Get the message? I think you will (if you are honest) after the election, if the last two didn't transmit properly.

Posted by: kingofzouk | September 3, 2008 1:03 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Pahin uses poor judgment and the GOP makes her out to be a hero!
This election should not be about Sarah Pahin not having an abortion.
This election should be about her not using the good judgment to use birth control. Any intelligent person knows that when you choose to have unprotected sex at 43 you have a very high probability of having a child with Downs Syndrome. The republicans are making her out to be a hero because she used the bad judgment not to prevent the pregnancy in the first place.

Posted by: Kwaayesnama | September 3, 2008 1:03 PM | Report abuse

AND for everyone accusing the left of being hypocritical and trying to make it seem as though the left only wants choice when that choice ends in abortion--Check your facts. The issue over the Palin daughter pregnancy IS NOT about her choosing to keep the baby. The debate is about how her mother would deny that choice to other families by taking away any options. THAT IS THE ISSUE!

Posted by: chadibuins | September 3, 2008 1:01 PM | Report abuse

Keith Obamaman is good. I like it. It's funny cuz its true.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 3, 2008 12:59 PM | Report abuse

the conundrum of Thompson can be answered easily enough--he is an actor not a statesman. He can read lines with the best but is not engaged because he doesn't have to be.

Posted by: chadibuins | September 3, 2008 12:59 PM | Report abuse

In what is little more than a "high tech lynching" the left is suggesting that Sarah Palin needs to get out of politics and back in the kitchen "minding the children" like an obedient woman. naturally, if Republicans ran ads like this the media would be braying to the hills about sexism and hate crimes and bias. Seriously, if , in the interests of gender equity, Palin needs to resign to care for the cherubs, then Barack Obama has the exact same duty to resign and care for his chilluns while his wife pursues her liberated career as an activist lawyer. After all, fair is fair. Why should Michelle give up a legal career just so Barack can play politics?

Posted by: markm | September 3, 2008 12:58 PM | Report abuse

My husband & I watched the GOGOBAGs (Gathering of Good Ol' Boys and Girls) last night.

The republican game played out like this:

The Scotch was poured by minorities denied equal American opportunities and the cards were dealt. Everyone anteed up a chip of their soul.

Fred Thompson led with one of his handful of POW cards, but due to a misprint the card actually read, "POM" - Hmmm...Prisoner of McCain??

Bush proudly played his "In other words, I can't be there in person because I'm helping Washington's hurricane effort" card, but it was stuck to his "In other words, the angry left" card and both were laid simultaneously on the table. Like any child whose parents have always let him win, no one stopped him and he went again, this time playing his "In other words, "Fear" card. Hee-hee

Lieberman played the "eloquent speech disguised as experience" card but no one saw it because they'd all gotten up to go to the bathroom where more out of work Americans were waiting to hand them dry towels and wipe their a$$es. No one at the table really likes him. Poor token Lieberman.

Tonight's game will add three other players all of whom will play so predictably it may as well be a musical:

Rudy will only play one card, the "911" card. He'll just keep picking that one off the table and playing it again and again.

Sarah Palin will lead with the "I have experience" card but no one will be able to see it because the card will be so small.
At some point she'll play her "glass ceiling" card but when it won't break on the green baize table she'll take out her gun and shoot it. She'll lay her entire hand on the table in the end but it will only be 3 of a kind: "no sex education, no available birth control or disease prevention and no choice."
But look carefully at the cards stuck to her hand in baby moose blood - "What it is that a VP does again?" and peaking out from beneath that one is the, "The Alaskan Independence Party" Membership card.

John McCain will make a grand, ostentatious entrance in his McPlane and not have a clue as to what's really going on, but he'll pick up his hand, scan it quickly and play the only card he can - the Joker.

Turn the cards over folks and look at the face of the deck the republican's are playing with - a "For Sale Sign" planted in the front lawn of America.

Posted by: Peakmom | September 3, 2008 12:56 PM | Report abuse

The Republicans have no answers. This party has been taken over by extreme right wing nut jobs. They are now adopting the "Change" ploy. They must be kidding. As an ex-military person I think that the Bush Admin. should be charged with murder. Please get these idiots out of here.

Posted by: Hoffmann | September 3, 2008 12:54 PM | Report abuse

and he depended on the teleprompters far too much.

Posted by: emk | September 3, 2008 12:48 PM

coming from a Dem - hahahahahahahahahahah

Posted by: too funny | September 3, 2008 12:52 PM | Report abuse

I just read that the high school student that fathered Palin's new grandchild is on his way to the Republican convention. Let me get this straight. Republican family values say that if your high school child gets "in trouble" then you support them by helping them get married? Is this really helping, or is this making the situation worse? Now these two children will be stuck with each other forever (because its wrong to get a divorce) because they made one mistake when they were kids? How many people knew who they wanted to marry when they were 17? Don't preferences change as people mature? I thought only people over 70 thought that "shotgun weddings" were a solution to a mistake. Oh. Maybe that's the point. Is anyone in the Republican party under 70?

To make matters worse, teenagers everywhere will now watch this teenage couple become famous for a week or two for doing something wrong and immoral. This sends the message that if teenagers get in trouble (any kind of trouble) Mommy and Daddy will get you out of it. These are not exactly the family values I want to have in my family. In fact, I welcome the chance to ridicule this "solution" when my teenagers watch Palin's family walk out on stage. This is not a convention, this is a freak show. BTW, my voting record is Reagan, Dukakis, Clinton, Bush, Kerry.

Posted by: Arlingdude | September 3, 2008 12:52 PM | Report abuse

the very epitome of idiocy.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 3, 2008 12:47 PM

Yes I am. I am just as spinless as my candidate, preferring to have a one-way conversation with myself and my enablers. If you wish to respond to me, I will be off to my next diatribe. Or throwing off insults to avoid the truth.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 3, 2008 12:50 PM | Report abuse

king we know that you suck up to whatever the GOP does but I am curious how you woud have reacted had Obama selected lets say Congressman Kusinich or Governor Schweitzer?
How in the world did he pass over someone like Tom Ridge, with vast intl. experience and having run a sigificant state govt. and who likely agrees with you on most issues for a neophyte PTA mom, a political lightweight who is not ready for prime time? I was seriously prepared to vote for McCain until this absolutely dumb selection and this post has absolutely nothing to do with abortion, nothing. Abortion now seems to trump compitence in your party and has become an overriding concern.

Posted by: Leichm | September 3, 2008 12:49 PM | Report abuse

I have to say, I don't agree with this piece at all. My reaction to Fred Thompson's speech last night was a) "Now I see why this guy never made it far in the primaries..." because of his lack-luster presentation, and b) Just comparing the Rep and Dem conventions so far, the Dems have to feel pretty confident.

Thompson did throw some daggers at Barack Obama, but his presentation was horrible. He seemed to mumble a lot, and he depended on the teleprompters far too much.

Posted by: emk | September 3, 2008 12:48 PM | Report abuse

Fred Thompson stole the show? Yeah - great uncle Uncle Fred really spiced things up for Grand-daddy John. Rock on.

PS: Can't wait to see Sex on Skates in the flesh on High Def! Its about time we chicks got some eye candy! Scha-wing!

Posted by: Mollie in ATL | September 3, 2008 12:47 PM | Report abuse

I love how Repubs like government off our backs, but on our phones and in our bedrooms. Like somehow, their version of "morality" is the only acceptable one. The only thoughts or beliefs you're allowed to have are the ones Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh give you.

BTW, you cons who keep whining about "liberal bias" in the media, bear in mind that you have the #1 cable news network, have a virtual stranglehold on talk radio, and the corporate media conglomerates control most of the rest. Just because most of the reporters show liberal leanings in a questionnaire doesn't mean they get to decide what goes on the air. That argument is tired, nonsensical, and is the very epitome of idiocy.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 3, 2008 12:47 PM | Report abuse

I aplogize for my many
over zeolous collegues'
it is obvious to all
religions and cultures
that speaking badly
of another,
and speaking without
any personal knowledge,
is a terrrible character
as a democrat I am
ashamed of this witch hunt.

Posted by: bob democrat | September 3, 2008 12:46 PM | Report abuse

We notice that MSNBC is blatantly for Barack Obama is a god to you Chris and MSNBC. Keith Obamaman has ceased being funny and is himself just a joke and attack dog. It is bad enough MSNBC (Media Serves Nefarious Barack Central) is sexist against Sarah Palin. It did not and does not scrutinize Barack Obama in the same way. Barack Obama has used his office to cover up race discrimination against Hispanics in Illinois and all we hear about is Trooper gate?

Posted by: DOJ | September 3, 2008 12:44 PM | Report abuse


• Obama can't let gender issues disarm him

• Worst possible outcome: Barack beat up
by someone named "Sarah"

The Dems have wisely held back their fire since the Alaskan moosehunter Sarah Palin sashayed into town. The Obama camp is standing down, letting the media and the blogosphere do their dirty work for them.

But once Palin speaks tonight, it's imperative for the Dems to answer in kind and not fear to unleash their most effective attack dogs -- not just Joe Biden, a Delaware Destroyer who knows how to rumble, but Barack Obama himself. He's the one with the glass-jaw reputation; once Palin delivers a roundhouse punch, Obama's got to ignore the niceties of sexual politics and give as good as he gets.

Nothing would be more humiliating for the Dems than for Obama to be beat up in a political street fight by someone named "Sarah."

If the Dems do a Harry Reid and meekly "stick to the issues," they will lose the momentum that's been gaining ever since McCain made his problematic pick last Friday.

Rick Davis, McCain's campaign manager, has thrown down the gauntlet: This election is not about the issues, but personalities, values, and fitness to lead, he told the Washington Post. The Dems' response: a tepid protest that didn't address the basic, unvarnished truth about this election: Davis is right.

With McCain's VP selection, the experience argument has been neutralized, and that's good thing for the Dems. No longer is this election a solely referendum on Barack Obama and his qualifications, judgment, and character. By choosing a novice like Palin, it's now as much a referendum on John McCain and Sarah Palin, and THEIR judgment and fitness to lead.

Before, all McCain had to do to win was prove to voters that he's not Geoerge Bush, and that Obama lacks sufficient experience and seasoning to be president. But now, by picking Palin to be his "heartbeat away," McCain has ceded his best argument against Obama, while raising more questions about his own presidential bona fides -- something that was largely taken for granted prior to the injection of Sarah Palin into the presidential equation.

And guess what? Since McCain's selection of an inexperienced ideologue with considerable personal and political baggage, Obama is winning on the very metric that Rick Davis set forth.

The first tracking polls after the Democratic convention showed only a modest post-convention bounce for Obama-Biden. That looked to be an ominous sign -- until McCain made his VP pick. Now Obama-Biden is up by a solid six points in the Real Clear Politics national average.

This "Palin Effect" on the polls raises a troubling question for the Republicans: Is Alaska's Annie Oakley charming the electorate along with those hard-right GOP delegates? Maybe not.

But the Dems can't look at the polls and sit back complacently. Once Palin fires off her fusillade, "Joebama" must aim carefully when they shoot back, being careful not to attack her tone or demeanor, but the specific arguments she offers to make her case.

In voters' minds, the biggest question mark about the Democratic ticket isn't where the party stands on the issues, but whether Barack Obama can stand and deliver in battle. Joe Biden doesn't top the ticket; Barack does.

Backing off from a fight because the opponent has different plumbing would be a huge tactical error. Women can fight dirty, too, and this Alaska scrapper can rumble.

It's got to be tit for tat, Barack. Can you "man up" to an alpha female? You're a cool cat -- but this is going to be a catfight. You'd better sharpen your claws and not be a "fraidy cat" -- because this kitty knows how to scratch.

Posted by: scrivener | September 3, 2008 12:43 PM | Report abuse

"To the people who work hard for a living; who pay taxes instead of collecting food stamps and subsidies"
Those would not be Alaskans. For every dollar in federal taxes paid by Alaskans, the state receives $1.84 back in federal funding. Alaskans pay no state sales or income tax and receive an annual payment from the state's oil fund.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 3, 2008 12:43 PM | Report abuse

Lieberman only cares about Israel. He is just a Trojan-Horse. He plays Democrat until he sees more support for a war with Iran on the Republican side. A war with Iran is going to benefit only Israel (one less enemy). First was Iraq, who was giving money to the families of suicide bombers. Iran is always a problem. Lieberman cares about Israel only. NO, I don't have a problem with Jewish people, only with politicians being Jews.

Posted by: Fernando F. | September 3, 2008 12:39 PM | Report abuse

We support a woman's right to choose. Unless she chooses life.

Posted by: the Dems | September 3, 2008 12:30 PM | Report abuse

"former Sen. Fred Thompson (Tenn.) who stole the show with a stemwinder "

"The Fix" seems to have a different idea of what a stemwinder is than I do.

Posted by: Jersey John | September 3, 2008 12:29 PM | Report abuse

you mean she doesn't know how to suck up to the French? can she give a speech to appease the german youth? that is the experience the committed Lib is looking for. no need to understand the bitter gun clinging religious freaks in the heartland. no wonder the pitiful journalism majors who couldn't get a real degree are worried sick. what with the ratings and stock prices falling faster than obama's poll numbers as the truth gets out.

Posted by: kingofzouk | September 3, 2008 12:27 PM | Report abuse

Can someone please explain why Levi Johnson wil be at the Convention tonight. What in the world is wrong with these people running the McCaincampaign; isn't the GOP ordinarily geniuses when it comes to stagecraft. Can just imagine the cameras focusing on him toght and reminding us that he is now the face of GOP family values; an 18 year old knocking up a 16 year old girl. You almost want to feel sorry for these folks but they seem to take pleasure being on the front page of the Globe, and likely the butt of late night tv's jokes. Why in the world aren't they sending him out moose hunting tonight.

The perfect response might be to run a version of the commercial Real Men of Genius tonight.

Rove was abolutely right when he said this was all about politics not governance.

I have to admit that bonedi was right when she said what was I thnking when I posted
that I just might have to vote for McCain.

McCain is actualy starting to make Obama look good, and I never thought I would ever post that.

Posted by: Leichtman | September 3, 2008 12:25 PM | Report abuse

Jersey John got it wrong!
Sara Palin got her first passport in 2007... not 1997!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Posted by: Anonymous | September 3, 2008 12:24 PM | Report abuse


Posted by: G. KOKIN | September 3, 2008 12:24 PM | Report abuse

Sara Palin got her first passport
in 1997!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"Experience you can count on"

(one heart beat away......)

Jersey John

Posted by: Jersey John | September 3, 2008 12:19 PM | Report abuse

"Can we get over the military experience requirement for the Presidency?"

It seems the Dems want to throw any and all actual experience out the window. Unless you include the promising but never actually performing Barack:

Law review with no publications
teacher with no scholarship
graduate with no job, OK, community organizer, same thing
state senator with no votes - OK present counts for him
US Senator with no bills - OK one voice vote
father and mother who let grandma raise the kids and won't punish them with a baby

still can't admit the surge won the war

gave a speech to cheering crowds of germans

visited Afghanistan once but went shopping instead of seeing the wounded troops

refuses to wear a flag pin, unless it will get him votes

the Adams Family has more normal associates

Loves to listen to hate speech every Sunday

Needs a criminal to co-sign on his mortgage

won't answer questions

Can't speak without a teleprompter

walks on water, they say

wants to replace the military

thinks Iran is no big deal, no wait

wants to invade our allies and talk to our enemies

wants to tax the rich out of existence, this means you

wants to eliminate profit, it is evil

loves jobs, hates corporations, hmmmmmm

won't pick hillary because he is so strong

likes to spend your money on stroking his ego

has a wife who would be first lady, who only this month has come around to liking america

but whatever you do, don't mention experience, judgment or issues around Libs. they simply freak out. As a last resort, they will try to compare their Presidential candidate to our VP choice. Only one problem, she is more clean, more articulate, more experienced, more middle class and all-american, more accomplished, better looking, and since she actually will assume high office, more historical.

too bad Libs. another glorious defeat. It seems your cast-offs are the only Dems that can actually win one.

Posted by: kingofzouk | September 3, 2008 12:16 PM | Report abuse

Heavens me, a speech by a CELEBRITY!!!!!

As for Joe, pulleese REPS take him, we don't want or need him. (take it from a CT native)

Posted by: nclwtk | September 3, 2008 12:15 PM | Report abuse

I didn't know that much detail about McCain's time in captivity and was moved by Thompson's presentation. I Wnating to know more I did some research and didn't like what I found. Is there any truth to what I've read about the McCain Bill - Sealing access to POW records and is there any truth to the video provided at this link? servic

Posted by: Mike | September 3, 2008 12:12 PM | Report abuse

What a bunch of bought WIMPS the Left wing media is. Bought off to only report what their "bought off" George Soros media outlet owners will let them report.

Bought and paid for wimps who will not report anything ( like a terrorist backer for Obama ).


Wimpy, no character paycheck chasing wimps!

Wimps, bought and paid for. Not a backbone one.

Posted by: zman | September 3, 2008 12:07 PM | Report abuse

Can we get over the military experience requirement for the Presidency?
FDR had no military experience and was President during WW2.

Lincoln had no military experience and was President during the Civil War.
They won both wars. George Bush had military experience (we are told)and has bungled TWO wars beyond comprehension.

Jersey John

Posted by: Jersey John | September 3, 2008 11:56 AM | Report abuse

It's been widely reported that Levi Jonston will be joining the Palin's at the convention. I suspect the Washington Post is tippy toeing towards a line somewhere. Will is make a 'cheat sheet'? Should it?

I wonder if the Washington Post decided that Levi's myspace page is below recognition? Probably for now. My wife heard about it from the nation-wide channel 8 morning news show. She doesn't often get to scoop me, so was pretty pleased with herself. FWIW here's a link.

Posted by: NoOneImportant | September 3, 2008 11:52 AM | Report abuse

The circus is finally coming to St. Paul. We have "superwoman" who can singlehandidly skin a moose while brestfeeding while watching out for Russian spies! Then we have her high school sweetheart, who is STILL a member of the Alaska succession party. Let's not forget about her pregnant daughter's "sex on skates" beau who proudly claims that he is a redneck and is good with not having kids cause it might interfere with his 4 wheeling and mud racing action. Simply brilliant!

Posted by: BillBolducinMaine | September 3, 2008 11:49 AM | Report abuse

Independent Voter

Need a break from President George W. Bush, Sen. Joe Lieberman and former Sen. Fred Thompson

Dropping A 300lb. Safe On A Buick

President George W. Bush, Sen. Joe Lieberman and former Sen. Fred Thompson made their statements. This is our quick response!

Change we can believe in.

Vote Obama/Biden '08

Posted by: Independent Voter | September 3, 2008 11:48 AM | Report abuse

Are you kidding me? It was most stupid and boring speech of the whole evening. Seems like some journalists are great in ass licking procedures.

Posted by: Jarda1 | September 3, 2008 11:47 AM | Report abuse

[Lieberman is not a particularly gifted speaker; his addresses tend to be plodding and without rhythm and he didn't disappoint last night.]

Chris -- you have the power of succinct understatement. Thank you.

Sadly, however, you failed to point out that Thompson was equally snooze-inducing. He delivered his lines as rehearsed, confirming for us all that he is an excellent choice for "Law and Order". But POTUS? Not so much.

Also of note: the brown "Service" signs held up by the crowd resembled large Hershey bar wrappers. Are they underwriting the convention by any chance??

Posted by: Julia Kelly | September 3, 2008 11:45 AM | Report abuse

I don't know what all the fuss is about regarding McCain's and Palin's credentials. They are first rate.

McCain being the son of an Admiral and the Grandson of an Admiral went to the Naval Academy. Due to the fact that his father and grandfather were both active Admirals I'm sure he was under extreme pressure to do well and that's the reason he finished 894th out of a class of 899.

He only wrecked 4 airplanes while in Navy Flight School. Isn't that about average?

And Palin. C'mon people, she's definitely ready to be president. I don't know how she managed it but she was able to get into the University of Idaho Journalism School. It's a known fact you can't get into the Univ of Idaho unless your dad is a Congressman or donates enough money to build a new dormitory.

I can tell you one thing for sure it's a heck of a lot harder for a White Girl with Connections to get into the University of Idaho than it would be for some Poor Black Kid to get into Columbia and Harvard Law School. That's a no brainer....

And then she was the mayor of Wasilla, Alaska. How could that not prepare you to be Vice President and one heart beat away from President? Why Wasilla is bigger than most high schools in this country! So what if she ran a budget deficit every year she was mayor. Its the American way.......heck, between 1980 and 2008 there have only been 5 years that this country has had a budget surplus....1996 thru 2001. So, no big deal there.

But if you want experience lets talk about her heading the Alaska Oil Conservation Commission. There she headed up the entire department of 22 people. WOW!!!!! I wasn't sure how she mangaged such a powerful and stressful position so I went to their website and found the 22 people listed and 10 of them had the title of administrative assistant. See, she knows how to spread around authority. That's very presidential.

And can you believe those crazy democrats? Trotting out Obama's Law Degrees from Columbia and Harvard. And bragging how he was the President of the Harvard Law Review, his 10 years teaching constitutional law at the Univ of Chicago Law School, his 8 years in the Illinios State Senate and his 4 years and a United States Senator. Bah! Just because this nation was built on a constitution of laws doesn't mean squat.

And Biden. C'mon! His resume is a joke. A degree in Political Science from the University of Delaware, a Doctorate of Law from Syracuse University, 36 years as a United States Senator of which 12 years were as Chairman of the United States House Judiciary Committe. He then took over as Chairman of the United States Foreign Affairs Committe for the past 11 years.

Isn't it obvious that OBAMA AND BIDEN no credentials to be president or vice-president. You'd have to be an idiot to think otherwise........

I mean the only thing worse would be if they had a pregnant un-wed underage teenage little girl or a spouse that belonged to a party that wants Alaska to suceed from the United States. If that were the case you would have to be a complete idiot to vote for them.



Posted by: COMMON SENSE | September 3, 2008 11:16 AM | Report abuse

Head of State

Monday, September 01, 2008

"Intrusive Personal Questions" from the Palin Vetting Questionnaire

"Mr. McCain’s advisers said repeatedly on Monday that Ms. Palin was 'thoroughly vetted'"- The New York Times

Palin "responded to a 70-question form that included 'intrusive personal questions' a senior campaign aide said today."- The Washington Post

"Intrusive Personal Questions" from the Palin Vetting Questionnaire:

1) Did we forget anything?

2) Secession from your own country is

a) Patriotic
b) A qualification to be the potential leader of that country
c) Maverick-y!
d) None of the above

3) John McCain has said that he has followed your record for "many, many years." Divide those "many" years by the number of years of your actual record. The result is

a) Three days
b) Two years as mayor of a town of 9000, and 20 months at the helm of the vaunted Alaska National Guard
c) 0: experience, as we know, is not relevant to one's record
d) Czechoslovakia

4) Moose Burger : Abstinence as Moose Hunting :

a) Brother-in-law
b) 50 state flag
c) Bridge to Nowhere (after it was made impossible)
d) All of the above

5) Did we forget anything?

6) Three Vice Presidential candidates are moving from three equidistant fixed points towards a podium. One, in his slightly glazed stare and awkwardly quasi-combative speech bears a faint resemblance to Dan Quayle; the next can only assist the ticket as we near closer to Rapture; the third seems to have stumbled out of one of Christopher Buckley's sharper efforts. Which one arrives at the podium first?

7) "Nothing that has come out did not come out in the vet." This sentence actually means:

a) Everything has come out and everything has been vetted
b) Everything that was vetted has come out
c) Everything that has come out was vetted
d) The vet came out and vetted the vets vetter than anything has ever been vetted. Really.

8) You are a right-wing, red-state conservative. During the Clinton Administration, you believed that President Clinton's behavior with Monica Lewinsky disqualified him from the Presidency on moral grounds; you fervently raised the terms "Lincoln Bedroom" and "Johnny Chung" to invoke notions of utter corruption, and regarded the "Travelgate" firings as an abuse of power. In the face of the recent revelations regarding Palin's directorship of Ted Stevens' 527, support of the Bridge to Nowhere, "Troopergate" imbroglio, and illegitimate pregnancy of her 16-year old daughter, you:

a) Blame George Soros
b) Talk about Bill Clinton instead of Palin
c) Hold your hands over your ears and loudly shout "La la la"
d) Try to change the subject

9) "Foreign policy experience" includes:

a) Being near another large nation
b) Seceding from your own country and then taking up residence in the new nation
c) Being close to "Nowhere" in your support for the Bridge to Nowhere, which is different than being "Somewhere"
d) Blame George Soros

10) If you were seeking to choose as your running mate someone who would please Evangelical Conservatives with very traditional values, who would be without taint of corruption or misuse of government power, and someone who, in line with your campaign's own slogan, would put "Country First", after thorough vetting and "intrusive personal questions", you would choose someone who:

a) Supported the Bridge to Nowhere
b) Supported the secession of Alaska from the U.S. (Slogan: "Alaska First!")
c) Was the subject of a state ethics investigation due to allegations that she had tried to have her brother-in-law fired and that she fired the state public safety commissioner due to his unwillingness to fire the brother-in-law
d) Would suffer from allegations that her 16 year old child had become pregnant illegitimately, despite her fervent support for abstinence only sex education
e) None of the above

Head of State:

Posted by: Anonymous | September 3, 2008 10:54 AM | Report abuse

Again with the attacks. Fine, here's one of my own:

I'm sorry that mommy didn't love you enough to prevent you from becoming such a bully. The rest of us want to debate issues, but as soon as we disagree with you, you start whining and crying.

Since all you have is, "Democrat bad, Republican good" how about leaving us alone and letting the adults have a conversation, you feckless crybaby.

Signed: I've met four year-olds more mature than zouk.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 3, 2008 10:53 AM | Report abuse

We're just wrapping up 8 years of a president that you can sit down and have a beer with. This may be the only developed nation on earth where being educated and accomplished is seen as a drawback when running for President. Why do we reward mediocrity?

I'm sure Mrs. Palin is great for a hunting trip, but I sure don't want her helping to make policy decisions.

Posted by: I like smart leaders | September 3, 2008 10:51 AM | Report abuse

To the people who work hard for a living; who pay taxes instead of collecting food stamps and subsidies; who face the vagaries of life with gratitude for existence, and take their lumps and setbacks in their stride; who raise multiple children instead of perhaps one designer child; who go to church on Sunday, and believe on Jesus; who volunteer for civic tasks, donate money to real charities, help each other materially in distress; who otherwise mind their own private business and expect others to mind theirs; and who, among other quaint customs, love the fresh air, and indulge such pleasures as hunting and fishing, through which they acquire a sense of stewardship over the land -- Sarah Palin is the bee's knees.

To them, the stark facts of Ms. Palin's reaction to a Down's syndrome pregnancy, and to her daughter's unseasonable one, shines as day to night against Mr. Obama's, "If my daughter makes a mistake, I don't want her punished with a baby."

Posted by: night and day | September 3, 2008 10:50 AM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin is a cynical joke as a candidate, but is likable, and I regret that she has been thrown into an affair with hypocritical pieces of $**t like Joe Lie-berman, John McShame. and Lazy Fred Thompson.

Posted by: bondjedi | September 3, 2008 10:43 AM | Report abuse

nameless fool, get a name and a spine if you want to participate in adult conversations.

Same goes for your candidate.

Posted by: kingofzouk | September 3, 2008 10:41 AM | Report abuse

Palin is no sister of the pants-suit set. If women vote for her, then it won't be because she reminds them of Clinton. It will be because Palin reminds all of us of our better selves.

Obama campaign spokesman Bill Burton criticized her for being mayor of a small town. Because he shares much of the media's disdain for folks who come from small towns (you know, we drive pickups, drink beer, hunt animals and can bowl over a 36), he believes voters despise us as well. Palin's own press secretary couldn't have delivered a more potent line. Telling Americans that she is more like them than Barack Obama, Joe Biden (or Clinton) was a huge coup.

Posted by: warren | September 3, 2008 10:39 AM | Report abuse


Have you ever considered using facts as a retort, rather than resorting to ad hominem attacks when someone disagrees with you?

Seems to me that the only hater here is you.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 3, 2008 10:37 AM | Report abuse

give me O-mama over O-bama anyday

Posted by: bumper sticker easy | September 3, 2008 10:29 AM | Report abuse

Give me O-mama over O-bama anyday.

Posted by: bumper sticker easy | September 3, 2008 10:28 AM | Report abuse

The GOP convention is boooring. Fred Thompson was the only one I could watch and Joe L is done as a Dem.

For the really free for all go to:

Posted by: afischer | September 3, 2008 10:24 AM | Report abuse

I see the anonymous Kos Kowards and haters have been parolled for the day.

has an intelligent thought ever entered your tiny brain?

Posted by: kingofzouk | September 3, 2008 10:23 AM | Report abuse

this time he didn't have to ask the audience to applaud seems they were waiting for just an ounce of energy to emerge...

Posted by: eNews Reference | September 3, 2008 10:22 AM | Report abuse

Actor-Sen. Fred Thompson is full of jewels:
last week he declared Gov. Palin a Renaissance woman, and this week called her the governor of the largest state in the Union. The latter statement is true but the senator forgot to mention that Alaska has about six hundred thousand people, about half the population of Cleveland. What was obvious at the Repubblican Convention last night was that the huge diversity present in the USA had no representation whatsoever unless one counts one single African-American I saw on the screen (there might have been others), the presence of Bridget McCain, the adopted daughter of the presidential candidate, and another Indian young lady who appeared on stage with her adoptive father. What does it say about the Repubblicans? Plenty! The token minorities placed in high visible places are just that, token appointments, even high-falutin ones like Condoleezza Rice. If someone wished to say that racism (or indifference of the 'other') is alive and well and visible, that person might have plenty of examples in this convention. I thought representation of the people in the government and in the political process was a key element in our American democracy. Last night I saw none of that, and that didn't seem to bother anyone, not even Sen. Joseph Lieberman.

Posted by: josepheg410 | September 3, 2008 10:15 AM | Report abuse

Interesting piece.

Posted by: Charles Cote | September 3, 2008 10:09 AM | Report abuse

That lowest rated Congress ever includes a couple hundred Republicans, too.

Someone ask Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell why he invoked the filibuster more than any minority in the history of the United States.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 3, 2008 10:05 AM | Report abuse

substance - Indeed. I believe the substance you're refering to is "garbage"

military success - No argument there. What we question is the motives of the leaders, not the competence of the troops.

economic progress - For BP and ExxonMobil. The rest of us have been screwed with our pants on for the last 8 years.

accomplishment - 1,600 dead in New Orleans, 3,000 at the WTC. Why do these guys have to wait for body counts before they'll do anything?

character - W's a drunk, Cheney shot a guy, and McCain dumped his disabled wife to marry for money.

experience - rhetorical code for "Old, inflexible, and think you're right about everything"

Posted by: Anonymous | September 3, 2008 9:57 AM | Report abuse

It is so funny to see the leftist media scurry around to find whatever crumbs they can find on Palin.....when on the other side, the candidate, friends with a terrorist ( Bill Ayers )and they have not made one bit of an effort to investigate. He launced his campaign from the guys house and asked his help.

Why would a guy running for President be friends with a terrorist?

Why wouldn't the media investigate?

Answer: The Media and Northeast elitist are in the tank for Obama. 2008 is the year that Journalism died.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 3, 2008 9:55 AM | Report abuse

The polls are going in Obama's (over 50%) favor today...if the GOP Convention doesn’t give McCain the momentum needed and the vetting process reveals more problems with Palin...she could very well be dropped (off the record asked to resign).

At the very least McCain didn't expect this from his new and third beauty queen. He obviously didn't complete his homework before selecting her and she was obviously a last minute selection from the "long list". With 20/20 hindsight and the hurricane taking the headlines from Obama, he didn't need to jump the gun with his veep choice...and should have waited till the convention; when the vetting process would have been completed. Now McCain's going to be held accountable for acting recklessly…loose cannon.

Posted by: DC | September 3, 2008 9:55 AM | Report abuse

And tonight we get to see Palin talk about her international experience (by virtue of being a neighbor to Russia) and meet Mr. Sex on Skates!!! We'll also hear how her 'executive' expertise will serve the US as well as W's did!!

What a joke! I can't believe Republicans can keep a straight face when they try to argue these points. What a sack of hypocritical poo!

Posted by: RickJ | September 3, 2008 9:48 AM | Report abuse

the gauntlet is laid down. we have the Republican party of:

military success
economic progress

contrast that to the pitiful spectacle of the DNC:

empty rhetoric
what military, what war?
taxes, taxes, taxes
lowest rated congress ever, worst speaker in history, empty suit candidate, VP who is always wrong
gave a speech once to cheering Germans

Posted by: kingofzouk | September 3, 2008 9:45 AM | Report abuse

And now tonight we get to see Palin display her international expertise (by simnply being a neighbor to Russia)as well as Mr. Sex on Skates himself.... She'll also prove how her 'executive' expertise will serve the US, much like W's has...

What a joke this is!! I don't see how the Republicans can keep a straight face when they try to argue these points.... What a sack of hypocritical sh*t!!!!

Posted by: RickJ | September 3, 2008 9:45 AM | Report abuse

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