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DENVER -- With the Democratic National Convention in its third night, we are going to forgo any long analysis tonight in favor of a series of shorter observations via Twitter. (If you haven't signed up for our Twitter feed yet, do it today. Search for "thefix" on Twitter.)

We want you to be a part of this process too so use the comments section to offer your own thoughts on the speeches or your thoughts on our thoughts.

At 8 p.m. ET, sign on to The Fix and stay with us for the three hours of prime time speeches.

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By Chris Cillizza  |  August 27, 2008; 6:21 PM ET
 
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Grace and Generosity is how the Clintons have been described by the media. Her supporters here have said as much for months but any such suggestion has been trashed and ridiculed. Will we see a change in attitude towards her by his supporters,or now that they have gotten what they demanded, essentially falling on their swords for their opponent's campaign will it be more of the same once the Convention is over? Obama got exactly what he wanted from the Clintons, now what is in it for them? Here locally in response to her vocal support for Hillary a wildy popular Sheila Jackson Lee was threatened this week with an Obama supporter's opposition in her primary. Why? Is retaliation-conformity the new nonpolitical way? Sounded more like the type of stunt we are used to here in Texas by Tom Delay. He has since had second thoughts but the threat in of itself was tasteless to say the least and hopefully not the way of the new D party.

Davis' quote makes an interesting point about "The Speech". It wasnt nasty but merely a warning about how best to connect to average Joe voters in the heartland:

"Having rock star concert crowds and uplifting rhetoric doesn't work with working-class voters," Lanny Davis, a longtime Clinton confidante, tells the New York Sun's Seth Gitell.

Posted by: Leichtman | August 28, 2008 10:34 AM | Report abuse

Bottom Line on the convention and the race...

Comes down to exactly these three questions.statements...addressed in Biden's speech...
(and at this point if you think Biden is a blowhard you weren't watching the guy's life last night)

We need a wise leader not a good soldier.
Anyone who has been to question and answer sessions with both of these candidates McCain and Obama, knows how weel McCain does NOT do with any follow up questions. He is propped up for an election. Almost every other follow up is greeted with a joke or some tough 30 second sound bite you have heard a thousand times before. and if there is a third... the person who asked is cut off. Obama seriously tries to answer...and even if it is all for show...

and I have seen these guys over the past year and a half many times.

The next is "Has the last 8 years been good for you?"

As much as everyone wants to spin it saying "oh John mcCain is not George Bush" no...but his promises and his policies are almost EXACTLY the same.

So if 8 years has been good for you then go with the guy promising not to change that plan (he may say we are going to change...but look at the details...they are almost EXACTLY the same).

and lastly
"John McCain was right on the surge bringing down violence...that's it."

The only thing in foreign policy he has been right about...

but what he was wrong on and Obama was right on...is too much for this commentary... and as far as the surge goes...

the goal was political reconciliation so we could leave. That was the goal...the violence reduction was the tool.

That goal is still far far off... maybe decades away. That is why mcCain wanted to stay...but McCain doesn't care about the tax it is taking on our wallets, doesn't prioritize what it has done to our and would continue to do our military, and has no understanding of how that would continue to be a stick in the hornet's nest of aculture's he has clearly shown he has no understanding of...

I think the selection is clear.

Posted by: dl | August 28, 2008 8:34 AM | Report abuse


This is not mine but this guy is good...

Clinton fullfilled his duty. But also praised himself and MCcain too much; showed stark contrast between himself and Obama by mentioning the Rep's called him young and inexperienced also. Don't forget Clinton also said he had more experience than Obama during the primes when it was first pointed out by Obama. Suttle digs at Obama kept coming. Clinton off the record has reportably compared Obama to a Chicago thug also at this convention...

Posted by: Denver Source | August 27, 2008 9:54 PM

Posted by: reposter | August 28, 2008 2:00 AM | Report abuse

Darn skippy Jamie!

Posted by: Iious | August 28, 2008 1:01 AM | Report abuse

Eyes2disinfo lighten up. All of us ain't college edjumacated like you snooty Obama types.

Posted by: Rendell | August 28, 2008 12:57 AM | Report abuse

Hey Ken:

It's the media "are" not "is"

Posted by: Eyes2disinfo | August 28, 2008 12:34 AM | Report abuse

America now knows. The media is the most oderous slime this country has ever seen.

Feel proud, or are you too drunk or stupid to see it.

Posted by: Ken | August 28, 2008 12:28 AM | Report abuse

JamesCH we do not know what is going on behind the scenes. We get only bits of information. But what is getting through is clear indications of division among ourselves as Dems centering around Obama. Uncle Tom, Unity My Ass chants. Jesse gets the full picture and if the tiniest bit of Unity brings him to tears we are in big trouble. I just don't think you get the implications if what you are saying is true. Both possible reasons for him becoming very emotional (Breaking down) are bad for us.

Posted by: Jamie | August 28, 2008 12:17 AM | Report abuse

JamesCH I would have to agree with Denver Source on this one. Jesse Jackson Jr. went after his own father after he made negative remarks against Obama. This same pittbull gets choked up for the reason you gave? I think the same can be said for breaking down when you see your bright future going down with Obama right in front of your eyes. That line about not having a lot of time is just to telling...

Posted by: Markus | August 28, 2008 12:07 AM | Report abuse

Sasha Kroening,

I would agree, except it wasn't despair. Jackson teared up over the display of unity from people who are traditionally rivals.

If he was tearing up during his call for unity, I would agree. Instead, Jackson was overwhelmed by the demonstrations of unity from Rep. Rush and Mayor Daley.

Posted by: JamesCH | August 27, 2008 11:55 PM | Report abuse

JamesCH leave it alone. A grown man does not cry for no reason unless he hasA. Has A. some type of Mental illness B. is a bit of a Striesand C. Just finding out he backed the wrong horse and stupidly threw his own Father under the bus in the process.

Posted by: Emmit | August 27, 2008 11:54 PM | Report abuse

2 auestions before I turn in:

1. Did anyone else notice that Barack is dyeing his hair? It looked like a Just for Men box job to me. No more gray temples...

2. What's a "twitter"? Isn't that what Chris Matthews feels up his leg when Obama is speaking?

Posted by: scrivener | August 27, 2008 11:52 PM | Report abuse

Sasha Kroening that is really good. I think yours is definitly the better take. Your title makes more sense.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 27, 2008 11:48 PM | Report abuse

Denver Source,

Here's what was happening:

""We don't have a lot of time to unite the Democratic Party." Jackson said. "That which historically divides us cannot divide us if we want Barack Obama to be president of the United States."

"Barack needs Illinoisans to love each other. Then he needs us to leave our front-row seats and go hug Ohio, go hug Michigan, go hug Florida," Jackson said.

Jackson hugged a congressional candidate who has bickered with him over local issues. He hugged U.S. Rep. Bobby Rush to put aside ill will over speculation that Jackson was scheming to have his wife replace Rush, who is recovering from cancer.

Then Chicago Mayor Richard Daley jumped up to hug Jackson, who has had strained relations with the longtime mayor. At that point, Jackson teared up and turned his back to the audience, his shoulders shaking."

Rep. Jackson got emotional when he and some of his political rivals began to show unity. He didn't "break down", as you say, because Democrats don't have enough time to unite. You're comments twist what was behind the whole thing.

Don't choose which words to read and read the whole thing.

Posted by: JamesCH | August 27, 2008 11:48 PM | Report abuse

Bubba came through bigtime, as well as Joe.
And a courageous performance under threat of embarrassment by Hil Wednesday, although I put more faith in her covert campaign than was deserved. As I said, Aleks, if it's political warfare, you've got to fully engage and can't go halfway. I still think she could have won, but it might have been a "scorched earth" victory...

If he can stay disciplined and on message, Biden may live up to the hype. He sure delivered tonight. "Best strategic use of attractive family award" snatched away from Michelle and the kids.

Everybody loves an up from the bootstraps story, and Biden's is genuine, including the kinda scary part about a "bloody nose." Maybe "JObama" CAN save the Dems, now that they've won some Clinton love. Will explore this in depth in another venue. 'Til then, kudos to Bubba and Hil and Joey and Jill and Beau and Hunter and Ashlee and
Mama Finnegan et al.

Posted by: scrivener | August 27, 2008 11:43 PM | Report abuse

The article link JamesCH put up should read.
Obama creates despair among already feuding Illinois pols

Not the spin of a title like...
Obama inspires hugs among feuding Illinois pols
By CHRISTOPHER WILLS

Posted by: Sasha Kroening | August 27, 2008 11:43 PM | Report abuse

Denver Source is awesome, JamesCH got burned bad!!! What a mess Obama has created.

Posted by: Manimal | August 27, 2008 11:34 PM | Report abuse

On the first day of the convention, one of Obama's political mentors, Illinois Senate President Emil Jones, was accused of calling a black delegate an "Uncle Tom" for supporting Hillary Rodham Clinton.

Didn't Denver Source mention something about this also? I think who ever he is he should not be discounted...

Posted by: Sable | August 27, 2008 11:29 PM | Report abuse

Thank goodness for Denver Source or I would have missed it. Thats bad real bad for Obama that Jackson is brought to tears. The writing is on the wall... No inity behind the scenes!

Posted by: Werner | August 27, 2008 11:23 PM | Report abuse

And how about Bubba....he definitely gave Barry the full Lewinsky tonight.

Posted by: daman1 | August 27, 2008 11:17 PM | Report abuse

Wow - that set looked just like the Family Feud set at the end. I wa waiting for Richard Dawson to come out and Barry came out! Did you see him kiss Biden's wife on the lips? I think h even gave her some tongue. Pretty crazy.

Posted by: daman1 | August 27, 2008 11:13 PM | Report abuse

OK, Obama became the first black nominee. Goody. The Democrats worked hard for this moment; Obama relentlessly smeared the Clintons with racist innuendo so he could get to this moment. So, enjoy the moment, Obama.

We can't afford to have a president leading 300 million people who has not done one single thing on the national scene. I mean, can anyone name ONE THING he has done? Just one? Nobody can b/c there is nothing.

(If there had been anything for which Obama could take credit, you can be sure you would have heard it repeatedly at the convention).

It is ridiculous to have a guy with this level of experience (read "none")on the national and international scene. Of course, I was thinking of running for president, but I just couldn't match Obama in oratory (read "hot air"). He can talk a great thing - but he's done nothing, nothing. I won't put my trust in just hope.

Where's the beef? Nowhere!

Unquestionably, it's McCain by a landslide, thank you.

Posted by: Lesley | August 27, 2008 11:05 PM | Report abuse

What context JamesCH? "We don't have a lot of time to unite the Democratic Party." I cry all the time when that happens don't you?

Posted by: Denver Source | August 27, 2008 10:44 PM | Report abuse

Yayy! You guys got your boy in, yes, you got your nomination, yes, you got your "win"... you guys all got your "Big-First" everything, but when are you guys going to get it...when Obama wins anything, it has and carries all the importance of letting loose, a quiet, stiff, fart in the wind, to most people now a days. After CNN and MSNBC tried everything to help push this guy through as the "cause celeb" (be careful, or I might faint while I write this). You guys that are all still trying to push Obama like, you just don't get it and realize that...THE GUY'S BORING! Nobody Cares! The Clinton's came off as the real winners tonight and people love them all the more for their toughness, tenacity and regular-folk lovableness. Obama has and always will come off as aloof and arrogant and out of touch, after coming out of the tough ends of Hawaii and Harvard University. Obama just "looks" the part of "different but, regular", in order to relate superficially as "everyday folks, WHO HAPPEN TO BE BLACK", but' the Clinton's actually "Are" some how, more down to Earth, regular and "Black-er" than Obama could ever be. After this whole thing in Denver, all the Clinton's stuff made it seem like these past couple of days there should be re-named, "The Clinton Convention". This guy's not getting my vote, I'll either vote McCain, not vote at all, or write her name into the ballot. CNN, MSNBC and Headline News, must be getting "wet" over, "Their and Obama's "win". I hear that they might even have "Obama-Girl" come out and sing for Keith Obermyer, tonight, too! PLEASE!

P.S. WOLF BLITZER AND ANDERSON COOPER, GET OFF YOUR KNEES AND LET OBAMA GO AND WOLF BLITZER ESPECIALLY, PUT DOWN THE POM-POMS, BABY!!!

Posted by: Rick | August 27, 2008 10:41 PM | Report abuse

Is it Barry? Or, Barry Obama. Don't you think for one moment The Fix would report this breakdown Jackson had. That is bad for Obama... Get it! He would not report that if his life depended on it. Thats why Hispanics have heard so much about Barack Obama disciminating against his fellow Americans from the Fix. You can't count on the Fix for the truth.

Posted by: Angel | August 27, 2008 10:38 PM | Report abuse

Here's the AP wire story about Jesse Jackson, Jr. that Denver Source is taking out of context.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5ho07dvlBIh1NCQFo-37LZqTF-IbQD92QSO400

Posted by: JamesCH | August 27, 2008 10:36 PM | Report abuse

Denver source is full of it. Jesse Jackson's son doesn't cry. There are no problems that bad if they were we would hear Fix reporting this even happened!

Posted by: Barry | August 27, 2008 10:29 PM | Report abuse

I have been in this country for 7 years and when I arrived I was struck at how poor and uneducated most blacks are. I could never figure out why most had children out of wedlock, sold drugs, and were in jail. They also have the highest rate of HIV. I suppose it is the slave metality from generations ago but at some point they will have to take responsibility. I think that is the reason Senator Obama appeals to so many whites because he isn't 100% black. He has a black face but the mentality of a white person. That makes the vote palatable and they can feel good about themselves. I doubt many of these white voters would go for an Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson - just too black and they are for more representative of the black American - not Barack Obama.

Posted by: Rahiq Syed | August 27, 2008 10:25 PM | Report abuse

All hail the messiah as he ascends to heaven from the Barakopolis.

Posted by: RobT | August 27, 2008 10:20 PM | Report abuse

That really did happen Haywood. It was really hard to watch as a Dem myself. What happened to let them think we are strong. it just shows the repukes we are wounded and lame ducks with Obama...

Posted by: Red | August 27, 2008 10:17 PM | Report abuse

What the hell Chris while your twittering yourself Denver source is reporting for you. You do suck! Just tell me is this true about Jr. and we may forgive you. Maybe?

Posted by: Haywood | August 27, 2008 10:12 PM | Report abuse

Get this... Jesse Jackson Jr. amid frustrations of a unified party breaks down into tears over Dems not having enough time to unite around Barrack Obama. Has to be consoled by Chicago's Mayor Daley.

Posted by: Denver Source | August 27, 2008 10:08 PM | Report abuse

What does "HOF" mean?

Posted by: MarkInAustin | August 27, 2008 10:02 PM | Report abuse

Diane72, I keep trying to tell you that the one you call a "special needs" child is the family's cute little Maltese pup, "Whitey".

You are so confused.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 27, 2008 10:00 PM | Report abuse

Clinton fullfilled his duty. But also praised himself and MCcain too much; showed stark contrast between himself and Obama by mentioning the Rep's called him young and inexperienced also. Don't forget Clinton also said he had more experience than Obama during the primes when it was first pointed out by Obama. Suttle digs at Obama kept coming. Clinton off the record has reportably compared Obama to a Chicago thug also at this convention...

Posted by: Denver Source | August 27, 2008 9:54 PM | Report abuse

How do you think Michelle Shaniqua Obama handle her "special needs" child when she gets to the White House?

Posted by: Dianne72 | August 27, 2008 9:34 PM | Report abuse

Isn't scrivener the guy who kept saying Al Gore would swoop in and rescue things? So, we know to discount everything that guys says. Add him to the pile along with 37th&O, JakeD, Rat-the, and the other HOF idiots on this blog.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 27, 2008 8:53 PM | Report abuse

Scrivener's so shocked and startled by the obvious occurring he's turning on his heroine? Does Apsergirl hate Hillary now too? Does anyone in the world seriously believe these two were ever going to vote for any Democratic nominee?

Posted by: Aleks | August 27, 2008 8:51 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: scrivener | August 27, 2008 8:42 PM | Report abuse

Why don't you go twitter yourself Chris. Sell-out! Stick to us bloggers doing your thinking for you here. Ask us some more questions for ideas thats all your good for.

Posted by: Clever | August 27, 2008 8:01 PM | Report abuse

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