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A Lipsticked Pig and the Politics of Perception

The hubbub created by Barack Obama's comment yesterday a lipsticked pig reveal the acute understanding John McCain's campaign has for the importance of the politics of perception in this campaign.

It seems hard -- if not impossible -- to believe that Obama intended to equate Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin and a pig. As has been noted many times over the past 24 hours, the phrase "lipstick on a pig" is one that the Illinois senator used on the stump before Palin was even in consideration as vice president.

Also, Obama is a savvy politician who has been at this for 20 straight months. It's hard to believe he would purposely make a comparison between the Republican vice presidential candidate and a barnyard animal -- knowing full well the frenzy that would ensue.

That said, it may not matter what Obama meant (or, in this case, didn't mean) to say as, in politics, perception matters more than reality.

Sensing an opportunity, the McCain campaign launched a "truth squad" headed by former Massachusetts Gov. Jane Swift designed to highlight the comment by Obama; "It's clear to me -- as I'm sure it will be to fair-minded Republicans, Democrats and independents across the country -- that Senator Obama owes Governor Palin an apology," said Swift on a conference call announcing the group's formation.

This morning the McCain campaign -- seeking to keep "pig-gate" (or maybe "lipstick-gate") on the front political burner -- released a Web video entitled "Lipstick" that accuses Obama of smearing the Alaska governor.

And, just moments ago, the McCain campaign launched a new television ad portraying Obama's campaign as a pack of wolves seeking to "destroy" Palin.

The Obama campaign, clearly concerned about the way the story was playing, released a statement just before 9 p.m. ET last night from senior adviser Anita Dunn condemning the "lipstick on a pig" back-and-forth as an unnecessary distraction propagated by Republicans.

"Enough is enough," said Dunn. She later continued: "This phony lecture on gender sensitivity is the height of cynicism and lays bare the increasingly dishonorable campaign John McCain has chosen to run."

Obama himself responded to the story this morning during an appearance in Norfolk, Virginia. "Enough," Obama said. "I don't care what they say about me. But I love this country too much to let them take over another election with lies and phony outrage and Swift Boat politics. Enough is enough."

The entire incident, which we are almost certain we have not heard the last of, brought us back to the start of the summer and a comment made by Hillary Rodham Clinton about why she was still in the primary race for president.

"My husband did not wrap up the nomination in 1992 until he won the California primary somewhere in the middle of June, right?," Clinton said, explaining why she remained in the race to the Sioux Falls (S.D.) Argus Leader editorial board. "We all remember Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June in California. I don't understand it."

As we said at the time, it's nearly impossible to believe that Clinton was purposely raising the specter of assassination as it related to her race against Obama. But, as we also noted, it really didn't matter what Clinton intended to do. The massive uproar that followed eclipsed the original event within minutes and turned into a debate on whether the Clintons would do anything to win the race.

In this modern world of politics -- the 24 hour cable news channels combined with the power and the reach of the Drudge Report, which is heavily promoting the lipstick story -- perception often matters more than reality.

The McCain campaign has demonstrated over the past few months that they understand this "freak show" (as John Harris and Mark Halperin coined it in their book "The Way to Win") politics acutely.

From turning Obama's celebrity against him to this latest episode of taking a seemingly innocuous comment and transforming it into a national news story, the McCain campaign is effectively using the politics of perception against Obama.

It's a sound strategy given the major challenges in the political atmosphere for Republicans. The more McCain can make this race about personality and less about issue debates, the better the chances he has to win.

Which is more important to you in choosing a candidate for president: their personal qualities such as experience and leadership ability, or their positions on specific issues?

Presidential Preference Among "Issue" Voters

Presidential Preference Among "Personal Qualities" Voters

NOTE: Results among registered voters.
SOURCE: This Washington Post-ABC News poll was conducted by telephone September 5-7, 2008, among a random national sample of 1,133 adults and 961 registered voters.

As McCain campaign manager Rick Davis said in an interview with Post editors last week: "This election is not about issues. This election is about a composite view of what people take away from these candidates."

Data from the latest Washington Post/ABC poll backs up this strategy. Forty-eight percent of those sampled said the candidates' position on issues is their main concern while 37 percent said the personal qualities of the candidates are their prime focus. Of the 48 percent who are "issue" voters, they go for Obama by a 56 percent to 37 margin; the 37 percent of "personality" voters opt for McCain by a similar 56 percent to 39 percent margin.

The math is simple. For McCain to win, he must make this a personality-driven contest -- presenting the choice between a war hero who has sacrificed untold amounts for his country and an untested senator about whom the American public still has questions.

Everything the McCain campaign will do between now and Nov. 4 will be designed to drive that contrast. How effective it is will likely determine the identity of the next president of the United States.

By Chris Cillizza  |  September 10, 2008; 11:36 AM ET
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Comments

Are you really going to attempt to read the following 1300 comments right now? Get a life. You (and people contributing to this inane discussion that evades all issues) simply deserve the failure of a President that has been elected two times this decade:

George W. Bush.

You have nobody to blame but yourself, America. Great job!

Posted by: tt | September 14, 2008 2:29 PM | Report abuse

McCain a war hero? That's a good one. He's a spoiled, party boy Admiral's son who was responsible for 168 deaths on the USS Forrestal in 1967 when, in a prank that was against flight deck safety rules, he wet-started his jet's engine and set off a huge fire. After that was covered up, he again disobeyed orders and flew his jet too low, which, combined with his poor piloting, resulted in his being shot down. As a POW, he made anti-American propaganda films for the Viet Cong in exchange for cigarettes, women and whisky, and developed Stockholm syndrome. And who knows what psychological effects the years of enhanced interrogation he underwent at the Hanoi Hilton may have had. Manchurian Candidate McCain is no war hero.

Posted by: Bonobo | September 13, 2008 1:45 PM | Report abuse

If ANYONE still thinks Obama's line about "lipstick on a pig" is sexist... or was a mistake... you obviously have been inhaling some of that wacky smoke.

Get the FACTS:

1) Obama repeated the SAME LINE that McCain said earlier about Hillary's healthcare plan. When McCain said it (THE SAME WAY), Hillary didn't complain (because she's got more class than to pick a fight over silly words - and because she actually thought of the CONTEXT of what McCain said - unlike the REACTIONARY ACCUSATIONS that Mr. McCain used this time to get headlines).

2) Obama has been using this line LONG BEFORE Palin was pulled into the race. Go look at earlier footage of Obama's speeches.

3) If you listen to Obama's FULL STATEMENT (not an out-of-context snippet that Mr. McCain's adulators put in their commercial -- how dishonorable can you get?) then you'll see it was OBVIOUSLY about McCain's policies. NOT ABOUT PALIN. For those of you too obtuse to figure this out, here's the actual quotation -- and if you can't understand what this means, then I hope you get instructions for how to write-in Ms. Palin's name for president (Warning: doing so could be dangerous; try it only if you know what you're doing) --


"The other side, suddenly, they're saying 'we're for change too'.
Now think about it, these are the same folks that have
been in charge for the last eight years.

That's not change. That's just calling something that's
the same thing, something different.

You can put lipstick on a pig. It's still a pig,"
[ the crowd erupts in cheers ]

"You can wrap an old fish in a piece of paper and call
it change. It's still going to stink, after eight years.
We've had enough of the same old thing."


There's no mention of Palin, or women, or even of McCain. Obama is talking about their using the same "change" message. If you think he's is talking about Palin, then you're saying the "eight years" reference is meant for Palin. Are you saying McCain knew eight years ago that he would pick Palin?
That's hogwash (yea, a teeny pun)! Does that crack make me mean to animals now? SOME PEOPLE WILL DO ANYTHING TO CREATE A CONTROVERSY (including mis-reading or accusing others when there's no issue). Anyone still think Obama was talking about Palin?

And if there's any nimrod still out there thinking Obama meant to say it to her, then YOU'RE THE SEXIST FOR THINKING that women can't take anything said to them - especially a woman who's claims to be a pit-bull. You must think women are "a weak ol' thang" that need protecting from bullys. If you think this way, keep your pitbulls out of the rink. Especially if they are thin-skinned enough to get bitten by words. Real leaders don't get hurt by words.

And why do you think McCain chose Palin?
(a) 'Cus she's eye-candy,
(b) She's a shield for McCain (so she can sling mud, but if you
say anything about her - it's sexism),
(c) To get the ultra-right wing vote,
(d) So we can't say the McCain ticket is a bunch of "Old
White Guys" with "old white guy views" (but now, thanks
to his VP pick, we can say he also has extremist views), or
(e) ALL OF THE ABOVE!

(those of you that can't figure this out, please try not to vote - it's way too dangerous)

THINK, PEOPLE!!

WE NEED TO GET ON WITH THE REAL ISSUES - ONLY 53 DAYS LEFT!!!

Posted by: ARE YOU STILL DISCUSSING THIS? | September 12, 2008 7:23 AM | Report abuse

FACTCHECKING MCCAIN-PALIN.....


Belittling Palin?
September 11, 2008
A McCain-Palin TV ad accuses Obama of being "disrespectful" of Palin, but it distorts quotes to make the case.
Summary
The McCain-Palin campaign has released a new TV ad that distorts quotes from the Obama campaign. It takes words out of context to make it sound as though the Democratic ticket is belittling Palin:

The ad says "they said she was doing 'what she was told.' " But the Obama adviser who's being quoted didn't accuse Palin of meekly following orders. What he actually said is that she made a false claim about Obama's legislative record and added, "maybe that's what she was told."

It says "they lashed out at Sarah Palin; dismissed her as 'good looking,' " But "they" didn't lash out at all. Obama – who is the one pictured – didn't say anything like that. The only one the McCain campaign quotes is Obama's running mate, Biden, and he actually offered the remark as a compliment. Biden said the "obvious" difference between Palin and himself is "she's good looking."


The ad says Obama was "disrespectful" when he accused Palin of "lying" about her record. But the truth is Palin's claim to have "said no" to the "bridge to nowhere" is indeed a dubious one, as we and many have pointed out.

Analysis
The new McCain-Palin ad "Lashing Out" begins like an earlier ad we criticized, with its reference to Barack Obama's celebrity, but then goes down new paths of deception. It takes quotes from news organizations and uses them out of context in an effort to portray Obama and his running mate, Joe Biden, as unfairly attacking Sarah Palin and making sexist remarks. We've long been a critic of candidates (Obama included) usurping the credibility of independent news organizations and peddling false quotes, and this ad is particularly egregious. We found it airing in Denver, as recorded by the Campaign Media Analysis Group, a unit of TNS Media Intelligence.

Hey, Good-Lookin'


McCain-Palin Ad: "Lashing Out"

Narrator: He was the world's biggest celebrity, but his star is fading. So they lashed out at Sarah Palin. Dismissed her as good looking. That backfired. So they said she was doing what she was told. Then desperately called Sarah Palin a liar. How disrespectful. And how Governor Sarah Palin proves them wrong every day.The ad says Obama and Biden "lashed out at Sarah Palin. Dismissed her as ‘good looking.’ "

That’s misleading. The reference is to a report of Biden joking that one of the differences between Palin and him is that “she’s good looking.” But the report cited in the ad doesn't characterize Biden’s remarks as dismissive. Instead, ABC News’ Jake Tapper and Matt Jaffe describe a moment when Biden “ham[s] it up” for the crowd, with one woman telling Biden that he’s “gorgeous.” The Democratic candidate then says he’d like to end “on a serious note.”

Here’s the quote in context:

ABC News, Aug. 31, 2008: "From our perspective the whole deal is how does the government help you get back up without getting in the way?" Biden asked. "There's a gigantic - gigantic - difference between John McCain and Barack Obama, and between me and I suspect my vice presidential opponent. And that is that - "
The crowd laughed.
"Well there's obvious differences," Biden said, beginning to ham it up. "She's good looking," he said, laughing. "You know there's obvious differences. But there's a whole lot -- "
A woman shouted: "you're gorgeous!" to Biden.
"Where's that person?" Biden asked. "Who said that? Who said that? Would you say that again for my wife?"
"You're gorgeous!" the woman yelled.
"Oh, I tell you what, would you make sure Jill hears that?" Biden joked. "You know what I mean? I just want to make sure she hears that. I haven't heard that in a long, long, long time. And hanging out with this lean, young-looking guy is making me feel pretty old, you know what I mean?"
Biden continued his riff. "I thought I was in pretty good shape til I hung out with this guy, you know what I mean?"
"Joe's looking good," said Obama.
"Yeah, I'm looking good alright, I tell you what," Biden said. "But look, folks, let me end with, on a serious note here. On a serious note -- I was a pretty good football player, man," he said to Obama "We oughta talk a little bit after this. Okay? --But look, on a very serious note ..."
He then continued with his very serious note.

Our ears don't hear Biden's "good looking" comment as dismissive. To the contrary, it's clearly a self-deprecating remark made in joking about himself and his looks. And by the way, the ad shows a picture of Obama next to the "good looking" quote, but it was Biden, not Obama, who said that.
Marching Orders?


The ad continues to imply sexism by claiming that "they said she was doing 'what she was told.' " Presumably "they" are the Democrats. But no one said anything close to that. Rather, the McCain ad took a fragment of an actual statement by an Obama adviser and carefully added language to alter the meaning.

The ad cites a Sept. 4 report from Ben Smith's blog at Politico.com in which he interviewed Obama adviser David Axelrod about Palin's speech at the Republican National Convention.

The full quote reads:

Axelrod, quoted by Politico, Sept. 4: "She tried to attack Obama by saying he had no significant legislative accomplishments — maybe that’s what she was told — but she should talk to Sen. Lugar, talk to Sen. Coburn, talk to people across the aisle in Illinois where he passed dozens of major laws to expand health care reform welfare, reduce taxes on working families."
Axelrod's statement, as reported, was about information that Palin was given: "maybe that's what she was told." The McCain-Palin campaign manipulated the phrase to make it sound as though he was alleging that Palin took orders: "doing what she was told."

The rest of the interview actually included some praise from Axelrod for Palin. For instance, he said she is a “skilled politician.”

And, again, the quote used in the ad wasn't said by Obama, either – though his photo appears next to it.


Speaking of Dismissive


The ad wraps up by saying Obama and Biden "desperately called Sarah Palin a liar." And it adds, "How disrespectful."

The reference is to an ad the Obama-Biden campaign released in which it criticizes Palin for saying she was against the infamous Bridge to Nowhere when she had previously been for it. (We called into question Palin's comments on the bridge last week.) The Obama ad says, “Politicians lying about their records. You don’t call that maverick, you call it more of the same.” It then quotes an item from the liberal magazine The New Republic, which called the claim that Palin stopped the pork-barrel bridge project "a naked lie."

As we're fond of saying, we can't read minds. So we can't determine whether the McCain campaign means to say that calling a woman a liar is disrespectful – or whether it's just disrespectful to say that of Palin. But in either case, "disrespectful"? Wait a minute. Isn't this politics?

For more on another now well-known McCain-Palin ad alleging sexism, see our Wire item, "Pigs and Pit Bulls."

– by Justin Bank and Lori Robertson

Sources
Smith, Ben. "Axelrod on Palin." Politico, 4 Sept. 2008.

Tapper, Jake. "Oh, That Joe! (Number 4 in a Series) -- Biden on Difference Between Him and Palin: "She's Good Looking." ABC News Political Punch, 31 Aug. 2008.

Posted by: need4trth | September 12, 2008 6:41 AM | Report abuse

Obama knew what he was doing with pig lipstick and it was no doubt a slam against the GOP veep. In fact a cartoon with nearly the same wording appeared days before Obama's gaffe.
http://www.caglepost.com/cartoon/RJ+Matson/55007/Lipstick-COLOR.html

Posted by: Bob N | September 12, 2008 5:35 AM | Report abuse

I love the "liberal media" argument, especially when they reference O'Rielly. He was the one who ranted for days about how Brittney Spear's parents were obviously to blame for her 16 year old sister's pregnancy. "Obviously poor parenting!" Palin's daughter however can't be talked about. I didn't spent my entire life in the military defending a country that wants to elect someone who professes to tell me what I can or cannot read at the library. George Bush is back, in drag.

Posted by: Sarge | September 12, 2008 4:54 AM | Report abuse

May the Force Be With You,

The laws made it easier for banks to engage in deceptive practices. That's a problem.

We can talk about personal responsibility in a situation where fraud isn't taking place -- the personal responsibility bar is higher in those situations.

But some of this stuff connected to the mortgage industry was just absolutely reckless. No doc loans? 107 percent financing? Variable rate loan packages that were designed to result in defaults, so that borrowers would need to refinance so that investors, in the short term, could collect more fees?

These are the kind of approaches that were just asking for problems.

When we talk about personal responsibility -- I don't see how we're being consistent when we say that most borrowers are on their own, but the cheat who robs people of their money, destroys investors holdings and investor confidence, and then gets golden parachutes is demonstrating "personal responsibility". Especially not in a case where tax-payers are left holding the bill.

A system that rewards cheaters is a system that is designed to fail.

It undermines the rhetoric about hard work and playing by the rules. It undermines the legitimacy of our institutions. That's not an environment that we want to create.

Regulations that are well-designed serve as a check against the most blatant short-term forms of greed -- they prevent melt-downs like the one that the economy is experiencing, and in the long-run they are a lot cheaper to administer than these kind of bailouts.

In short: It's just smart policy.

In recent years we have had dumb policies in place. The fact that we've had greedy politicians writing laws that protect bad actors in the private sector only makes matters worse.

As far as the Dems role -- they were in the minority until last year. Even now that they're in the majority they have encountered a record number of filibusters in the Senate. When a bill gets filibustered, it doesn't even make it to the presidents desk. The legislature also has only indirect control over regulatory structures, which are located within the executive branch.

As far as the Bridge to Nowhere controversy, the reason it's an issue is because Palin lied about her role in killing the measure.

She's campaigning as a reformer, so the issue is relevant in a way that it wouldn't be if she was simply running as what she is -- a standard issue pork-barrel Alaska Republican.

The Dems haven't made the Bridge to Nowhere or earmarks a centerpiece of their campaign. McCain has. That's why McCain's actions and Palin's are hypocritical.

Posted by: JP2 | September 12, 2008 1:04 AM | Report abuse

Maybe more subtle than the button being distributed by some members of Indiana's delegation. The buttons, which show a picture of McCain with running mate Sarah Palin, proclaim their bearers to be "Hoosiers for the Hot Chick."

This is just one of several "buttons" the republican'ts convention that most certainly sexist but they are okay because it is their party!
Disingenous to play the sexist card. mcbrainless uses the POW card any time he wants to get out of a question he cannot or will not answer.
mcbrainless claims he wanted a "clean election" and then shows ads he knows are LIES!!

Posted by: Katerina Deligiannis | September 11, 2008 10:43 PM | Report abuse

Sorry for double dipping, but here is how I think you play along with the McCain lies:
"It seems hard -- if not impossible -- to believe that Obama intended to equate Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin and a pig."
"Hard" provides come cover for taking advantage of ambiguity. If you didn't hear Obama's remarks, "hard" gives the gullible reason to think there could be some validity to McCain's scurrilous attack.
Hillary Clinton's comment about assassination represented a historical fact about how unsafe being a prominent person can be, but it also allowed fanciful rhetoric. In this case, there is absolutely nothing in Obama's comments that even suggests he equated Palin with a pig. I would love John McCain to be shown a tape of Obama's remarks, then his own approved ad, and be asked what his campaign saw to justify the dishonorable ad they produced.
If we end up putting M-P into office, we deserve what we get. Of course, we put GWB in twice, the last time knowing pretty much what we know about him now.

Posted by: Steve H | September 11, 2008 2:33 PM | Report abuse

Chris, what you call the "politics of perception" and seemingly endorse as effective in the Lipstick on a Pig stupidity is flagrant lying. And yet, as you present the casus belli, you don't devote nearly as much effort to making clear how outrageous the McCain response is. Can't you express amazement if not disgust at how far McCain's handlers (with his assent) are willing to go to win the perception wars? Until the press makes itself to be not just recorders of he-said/she-said and become concerned with providing enough information for readers to understand what is happening, you will be complicit in public ignorance. But if all you do is call a horse race rather than trying to find out if the horses are doped, then you fail your journalistic responsibility. If so, you won't be alone.

Posted by: Steve H. | September 11, 2008 2:25 PM | Report abuse

I thought September 11 was going to be a day when politics was off limits. There were not supposed to be political ads run.

I noted some wise cracker stated that Obama will explode in temper. McCain it well noted for having an explosive temper, the same as George. More of the same. Staffers are afraid to enter the oval office with bad news because Georgie can not take it.

Before the 2000 election, in an interview with Laura Bush, which I heard, she was asked if she criticizes George's speeches. Answer: No, I did once and he drove the car through the front of the garage. Barbara told her never to say any thing bad to George.

Posted by: kelfield | September 11, 2008 2:21 PM | Report abuse

raskente

Put down the spliff and catch a snap. lobotobama has fallen apart and biden wants hillary to take over.

we won't elect a sissy ex-muslim radical marxist flipflopper, not one time, mon.

Posted by: viejo1 | September 11, 2008 12:58 PM | Report abuse

THE McCAIN CAMPAIGN MESSAGE OF “CHANGE” IS JUST
PUTTING LIPSTICK ON A PIG

Back in May, McCain referred to Hillary Clinton’s health care plan as “putting lipstick on a pig.” It’s still a pig. No one thought anything of it. There were no cries of sexism. No one accused McCain of calling Hillary a pig.

Fast forward a few months and Barack Obama returns the favor. He refers to the McCain campaign’s talk of “change” as nothing but putting lipstick on a pig. It’s still a pig. Instantly the McCain camp jumps up and cries foul, accusing Obama of calling Sarah Palin a pig. Never mind that Obama had not even mentioned Palin’s name. Never mind that McCain himself had used that same folksy phrase. They then have the unmitigated gall to demand an apology from Obama. As if McCain owned the copyright to that phrase.

Methinks the Republican candidate doth protest too much.
The intensity of the McCain outcry, apart from its dishonesty, tells me that Obama has accidentally hit the mother lode. Instead of backing off from that porcine phrase, Obama would be well advised to use it in every campaign speech to characterize the quixotic talk of “change” emanating from the McCain camp. It is a phrase that immediately elicits scorn and derision. It is pithy and memorable. It describes exactly what a McCain presidency would be: four more years of Bush policies prettied up in lipstick. That’s not change. It is still a pig.

But here is the best reason for Obama to keep referring to pigs with lipstick. The insistence by the McCain camp on tying Obama’s innocent phrase to Sarah Palin has now made it impossible for us to NOT think of her when we hear of putting lipstick on a pig. The imagery is powerful. When we think of pigs we see greedy hogs feeding at a trough loaded with earmarks, such as, say dough for a bridge to nowhere. We think of the huge amounts of pork obtained by a small town mayor with connections to the Washington abattoir. No wonder the McCain-Palin camp is scared. Already there are T-shirts out with that wonderful image of a pig with lipstick.

The over-the-top response of McCain in this matter has provided Obama with a golden opportunity. He needs to keep hammering home the message that a McCain presidency would amount to putting lipstick on a pig. He should stick to that imagery for it is one that resonates. If he keeps drumming in that message, the only way the McCain-Palin ticket will win is when pigs fly.

And that’s no (pit)bull.

Posted by: RasKente | September 11, 2008 12:42 PM | Report abuse

To the one who thinks he's a poet: that's not an ode you've been writing but a series of limerics. They are well-known as party tricks and somewhere between the lowest form of wit and the wit of fools. Keep trying.

As for the lip-stick. We all know that this is a cheap line, why do you think Palin used it? As for Obama picking it up, I imagine his advisers suggested he get down in the stye with the rest of the swine.

If Palin wants to compare herself to any animal, I would suggest she get the sex right: the word is not dog in English, nor
pig. As for what kind of person she is, I think we can see by her summary dismissals of staff that she is less than humane, and probably what could be called power-drunk.

God help the world if she gets more power than she already has in Alaska.

Chris Brown in Hamburg


Posted by: Chris Brown | September 11, 2008 12:37 PM | Report abuse

Obama should change the line to 'put lipstick on a pump' as he talks about the oil companies.

Posted by: Nor'Easter | September 11, 2008 11:40 AM | Report abuse

I'm waiting for Obomb to explode and show his true colors. When he loses his temper (and he will) on camera without the prompter...he will come off as the angry violent black man that all of civilized society has a deep rooted and validated fear of.

Tick tock...tick tock Obomb is going to blow his top and blow the election up.

Posted by: Obamaisamuslim | September 11, 2008 10:51 AM | Report abuse

The coverage of Sarah Palin has all the depth of the coverage of contestants on The Bachelor or American Idol. I don't know whether that is because that's all the "there" there is [in which case, Sarah Palin is just a vacuous caricature [Moose Hunter in Heels, MILF (I had to look that one up when I read it), Lipstick Wearer Needing Lasik], or if the media has simply abdicated its responsibilities to do serious reporting. Neither option bodes well for the American public.

Posted by: Jackie | September 11, 2008 10:35 AM | Report abuse

Advice to the McCain supporters who are expressing their "outrage" over this "lipstick on a pig" business: Stop it. You are looking ridiculous. Various media outlets have called this for what it is: a calculated effort of phony outrage intended to dominate the news cycle. If you think Obama is sexist, use another example. You are losing your credibility. Most people have grown cynical enough to see this political tactic for what it is.

Posted by: Tom | September 11, 2008 10:27 AM | Report abuse

Maybe it's hard (or impossible) for Obama's extended campaign (the media) to believe that he was referring to Sarah Palin with his "lipstick on a pig" line...but it seems clear to me he was intended to get some mileage out of that in the way he delivered the line.

Whatever.

In any case, if he truly did NOT intended for it to be taken that way, then this is, at best, just another example of The Anointed One's bad judgment.

Posted by: Area504 | September 11, 2008 10:10 AM | Report abuse

The additional freedoms afforded the press under the United States Constitution were placed there by our founding fathers because they recognized the critically important role the press SHOULD play in insuring an informed electorate. Surely those founding fathers are rolling over in their graves now. The press is a national embarassment. The coverage of the "lipstick" story makes clear that the MSM campaign coverage is the intellectual equivalent of reality TeeVee. This coverage deserves no special constitutional protection. It deserves (when in print form) to line the bottom of bird cages.

Posted by: Jackie | September 11, 2008 10:07 AM | Report abuse

This is the first analysis by any pundit or journalist that I completely agree with. Campaigns are about perception. Obama benefited rode positive and unearned perceptions throughout the primary - and benefited from the negative perceptions about Hillary. McCain's advisers have learned how to use these same perceptions to their advantage. Its not pretty, its not fair, but its standard politics in a democracy. Watch for Obama and hs media allies to look for a Palin gaffe and seek to turn the tide back again.

Posted by: T Gallagher | September 11, 2008 9:39 AM | Report abuse

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OBAMA IS CRACKING - is this how Obama and his people are going to handle a National Security Crisis ???


Clearly Obama is NOT ready.


The way that Obama AND his paid staff bloggers at the Obama headquarters have attacked Sarah Palin over the past few weeks clearly PROVES THAT OBAMA IS NOT THE PERSON FOR THE POSITION OF PRESIDENT.


OBAMA CLEARLY CAN NOT HANDLE THE PRESSURE.


Obama is now making mistakes and he is losing it. Obama is clearly UNABLE to handle a FOREIGN CRISIS OR STAND UP TO FOREIGN LEADERS IF THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS TO HIM WHEN CONFRONTED BY THE GOVERNOR OF ALASKA.


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Posted by: 37th&OStreet | September 11, 2008 8:14 AM | Report abuse

I am a Democrat, but I did respect McCain prior to this campaign. Now I see him for what he is - a ruthless politician who is lying his way to the White House. It is he who is exploiting the gender card shamelessly. Sarah Palin is just a wind-up doll who is paraded before the crowds and made to deliver the same old speech over and over and over again. He is incapable of generating enthusiasm while campaigning on his own. He has to rely on a woman to do that for him. So I do agree that Sarah Palin is the lipstick on the pig. (And this is a metaphor not meant to be taken literally).
His candidacy is a hollow shell. He has no agenda other than chasing after phantom earmarks and absolutely no vision. He didn't even have a message till he stole Obama's.So he is now a liar and a thief. And this I do mean literally.

Posted by: Sandy | September 11, 2008 8:05 AM | Report abuse

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Not for nothing, but wasn't what Obama did to Bill Clinton in South Carolina "swift-boat politics?"


Obama really has to watch out for the hypocrite label.


Obama was supposed to be the "post-partisan post-racial" candidate - and all he has done has been to be a FRAUD to those two campaign themes.


It really is unbelievable.


The attacks on Sarah Palin have made a COMPLETE FRAUD out of any claim that Obama has made of being "post-partisan." What is really bothering the ANGRY LIBERALS is that a WOMAN can be PROFRESSIONAL, ASSERTIVE AND HAVE CONSERVATIVE VALUES ALL AT THE SAME TIME. THAT SIGHT INFURIATES THE OBAMA AND HIS CRAZY BAND OF ANGRY LIBERALS.


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Posted by: 37th&OStreet | September 11, 2008 7:41 AM | Report abuse

Poor John McCain.
He and his people just don't get it

You can take a donkey ...
Dress it up in Top Hat and Tails ...
Teach it the Texas-Two-Step ...

But at the end of the day ...

He's still a Jack-Ass

Posted by: Jeremiah Johnson | September 11, 2008 7:30 AM | Report abuse

DAVID FRUM: The Democrats’ Credibility Gap
Bob Shrum tells us that John McCain and Sarah Palin are falling short in their populism. Nobody has deployed the rhetoric of populism more ferociously and more often than Bob Shrum, so his assessment carries weight.

Yet populism carries risks too—and the Democrats are now encountering them.

Democratic-leaning pollster Stan Greenberg has just published a fascinating memo detailing one of the most dangerous of those risks:

Democratic populism is destroying Democratic credibility on national security.

Let's go to the numbers.

Republicans have owned the national security issue since the late 1960s. After 9/11, the Republican advantage on poll questions spread to an astounding 30 points.

But since 2005, the Republican advantage has dwindled. By the fall of 2007, the two parties had reached near parity on the issue, only 3 points apart—the best Democratic result since Barry Goldwater led the Republican party!

That parity did not last. Over the past year, Republican standing on the issue has revived while Democratic credibility has tumbled. In Greenberg's latest polling, the Republicans now hold a 14-point lead, 49-35, a return to the kind of advantage they held in the 1980s.

What's going on?

Greenberg advances three reasons, but here is the most important and provocative:

When asked to choose why they think Democrats are weak on security, the number one reason—picked by 33% of all respondents—is that Democrats" change positions depending on public opinion."

“Moreover, when we ask respondents to compare the two parties, likely voters choose Democrats over Republicans as the party "too focused on public opinion" by a 27-point margin. Even Democratic base voters agree: liberal Democrats point to their own party as the one "too focused on public opinion" by an 18-point margin, and moderate/ conservative Democrats say this by 25 points.

In 2001-2002, Democrats chased public opinion in a hawkish direction. In 2004-2007, they chased public opinion in a dovish direction. In 2006, when the war seemed hopeless, that reversal paid off for Democrats. But as conditions have improved in Iraq, Republicans have been vindicated—and Democrats look weak and opportunistic.

Now when Bob Shrum talks of "populism," he has something very specific and highly ideological in mind. But most Americans—and most working politicians—use the word "populism" in a more general sense. They use it to mean, "doing what is popular."

You might think that doing what is popular is always good politics. That would seem true almost by definition!

And in the very short term, it has been true for Democrats.

But there is a longer term too. Voters remember. They compare results. They recall who stayed firm in the moment of decision and who flinched. And if the person who stood firm is also proven right—voters reward it.

Don't misunderstand. There are prizes for the vacillating and the time-serving. John Kerry is still senator from Massachusetts after all. But there is a price to be paid too for too obvious vote-catching—and on national security, the Democrats have already begun to pay it. Just how high that price will go, we must wait until November to know.


Posted by: Scott | September 11, 2008 6:34 AM | Report abuse

So when McCain makes rape jokes that ok.

When McCain offers up his wife to a drunken mob for a topless, pickle-licking contest that's ok.

When McCain forgets to put the non-white members of his family in the family portrait on the cover of People magazine, that's ok.

How about instead of following Obama around 24/7 he tells us what his economic plan is? Wait - we already know, it's the same as Bush's.

But mention pigs???

Posted by: McWhiner | September 11, 2008 6:04 AM | Report abuse

In the meantime, the rest of the world shakes its head in disbelief at this lunacy and gets on with its business. I've lived overseas for 11 years now and it's amazing to watch this spectacle from other viewpoints... No wonder the US has lost much of its standing in the world.

Posted by: RickJ | September 11, 2008 3:41 AM | Report abuse


I just don't get it...our economy is in the toliet, we're fighting 2 wars, people can barely afford to feed their families, they're losing their homes, the rest of the world hates us, & if the global warming situation isn't gotten under control we won't HAVE a world to worry about. But instead of addressing this, the very RepubliCONs who put us in this situation over the last 8yrs want to distract us with a ridiculous debate over a "pig with lipstick" comment. McCain & Karl Rove don't want us talking about that of course because then we'd have to take a SERIOUS look at WHO put us in this situation. Nah, thats too dangerous for them. Its much safer for them to get us all worked up over a pig remark. WHY? Because they know we're all dumb enough to fall for it. They're COUNTING on the stupidity of the American people NOT to recognize when we're being manipulated. Karl Rove & Rick Davis are MASTERS of this type of politics. Just ask George W Bush.I am one of those average moms thay they're pandering to. And I'm insulted that they think I'm stupid enough not to see through this. I saw through it against Kerry and I see through it now. Whats frightening is, many of you don't. You're all ready to mount your white horse and ride to poor Palin's rescue. You laughed when she denigrated "community leaders" even though Jesus was one huh? But boy howdy, mention pigs & lipstick and you're calling each other filthy names and ready to lynch someone. Wake up America! You're being manipulated again and you either don't see it or you just don't care!!! I suggest everyone check out this website and judge for yourselves.... http://foxattacks.com/ And while you're at it, Lets remove Karl Rove from this equation:

http://sendkarlrovetojail.com/

Posted by: Kimberly | September 11, 2008 2:54 AM | Report abuse

Breaking news: Maggie's mind has broken.

Posted by: Baby Fix | September 11, 2008 2:37 AM | Report abuse

If I were a pig, I'm sure I'd understand that Obama was not talking about me.
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But, if I were a pit-bull, I'd be offended by Sarah Palin trying to compare herself to me.

Posted by: El Mugroso | September 11, 2008 2:10 AM | Report abuse

Hey Seems to me: send us the link about Palin and the Alaska Newspaper Comment. It doens't exists does it....busted!!!

Posted by: Aaron | September 11, 2008 12:58 AM | Report abuse

Back to the topic of the blog shall we. Though "lipstick on a pig" is used by politicians all the time. Does Obama have any common sense? It really is all about perception after all. What if McCain said, "That's kind of like the tea calling the kettle black"...huh???? See my point. I recently watched Obama talk to a group about health care, and he became so lost, he couldn't finish his thought. People were shouting, get to the point!!! He looked at them and said, it's coming, it's coming! I'm glad you are so fired up! Then he said, I'm really tired today! He needs to stick to the issues and stop campaigning against Sarah Palin. He can't win that fight!

Posted by: Boggey818 | September 11, 2008 12:50 AM | Report abuse

Seems to me ( that i'm a nitwit ) wrote;

Anchorage Daily News says that palin barely can handle the state of alaska. She doesnt think through and anticipate the results of her actions. She is very likeable but don’t cross her or todd or you will lose your job instantly.


Posted by: seems to me | September 11, 2008 12:27 AM

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Ohhhh, you must be talking about the safety commmisioner that wouldn't fire the Police Officer who shot the taser at his ten year old son. "he wanted me to".

Ya, I want to see Obama stand up for that guy.

That's exactly what we need. Someone to stand up an incompete FOOL like this one who would not do his job.

You want that jerk to have a taser when he pulls over your son?

PLease Obama, make that argument that he should not have been fired.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 11, 2008 12:46 AM | Report abuse

BY SHY SEN. OBAMA:

I can't wait for a head to head debate between Sen. McCain and Sen. Obama. Judging by how well Sen. Obama did with Fox News Mr. Bill O'Reilly, my money is on Sen. McCain. When Mr. Bill was interviewing Sen. O, Sen. O's head and eyes were constantly on the ground; also, he was fidgeting and speaking like a shy little girl. Sen. O seems intimidated by older men.

BTW, did you guys see Sen. Biden putting his arms around Sen. Obama to comfor him on stage? For a minute, I thaught papa Biden was going to pick Sen. O's legs up, put some powder on his bottom and a pamper on him.

Posted by: SHY SEN. OBAMA | September 11, 2008 12:42 AM | Report abuse

Sarah,

Why speak to the moronic media?

Sit back and watch the nitwit Obama and Biden walk around and say moronic things.

Just stay on the sideline and watch these idiots implode.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 11, 2008 12:40 AM | Report abuse

Well, thanks for the insight JP2, I respect your words and realize that's why we as Americans are so divided. I don't blame anyone for my situation or for the situation of others. I wake up every morning and go take care of the problem. I do know one thing. I make more money today than I did 8 years ago, I've also served my country in Iraq during the same time period and could not be more proud of what our country is doing overseas and at home! I volunteer on the weekends teaching math to less fortunate high school students. I'm going to continue to do my part. It sounds like you are a well educated blogger, and It makes me smile to know we can live in a country where we can disagree all we want. God Bless America!

Posted by: MadDonkey | September 11, 2008 12:38 AM | Report abuse

Anchorage Daily News says that palin barely can handle the state of alaska. She doesnt think through and anticipate the results of her actions. She is very likeable but don’t cross her or todd or you will lose your job instantly. Sounds like george w. Achorage Daily News says in no way is she qualified for v.p. job much less the presidency. But she sounds sooo nice and cheery.

Posted by: seems to me | September 11, 2008 12:27 AM | Report abuse

jp2
You misunderstood me.
I meant he was a successful black leader.

Posted by: jwald1 | September 11, 2008 12:27 AM | Report abuse

RE: JP2 and Mad Donkey
Hey sorry to pick on you! I think Mad Donkey has a point. We can point fingers at policy all we want, but facts are facts. Bush created policy that pretty much exploded our economy. It grew so fast and along with it, "I agree" greed! I can say for myself and my nextdoor neighbor. We both took a risk and purchased homes we couldn't afford. We, like many Americans were banking on equity to bail us out. Well, now that equity is gone and I don't blame a single soul but myself. Really, I ask anyone this question. If the Dems had a better plan for preventing this, why didn't they at least give Bush the chance to Veto it? I agree with many hard working Americans, that the economy is cyclic, and we just happen to be in a big down sweeping cycle right now. Also, to correct someones earlier statement, Why pick on Palin for the Bridge to Nowhere when both Obama and Biden, along with 53 other Dems supported the "Bridge to Nowhere". (factcheck.org)

Posted by: May the Force be with you | September 11, 2008 12:26 AM | Report abuse

Breaking news!

Breaking news!

Breaking news!


Obama when interviewed on Letterman just said that Sarah Palin was just Lip-stick for McCain!

How is that not sexist. Sarah Palin is not mere window dressing despite what Obama's pattern of thinking is.


Please feel free to repost this!!!!
This type of sexist attitude needs to be denounced.

Posted by: Maggie | September 11, 2008 12:18 AM | Report abuse

JP2: Thanks for clearing up a few things, though I also believe that Obama, like many other candidates has a way of telling a tale or two. You did mention tax cuts in your post and I feel as though you may not fully understand tax policy. I live in the world of tax everyday, so please allow me to vent this off. Senator Obama says that he wants to “reform our tax code so that it rewards work and not just wealth.” I think that is a great goal if it means a simple tax system with low marginal tax rates. Unfortunately, a close inspection of Obama’s proposals (check out his website) reveals something disquieting: he would raise marginal tax rates for many middle-income taxpayers, a bad move for anyone seeking to promote economic growth. For a little Economic lesson, lets look at the laffer curve. In economics, the Laffer curve is used to illustrate the idea that increases in the rate of taxation may sometimes decrease tax revenue. Since a 100 percent income tax will generate no revenue (as citizens will have no incentive to work), the optimal tax rate that maximizes government revenue must lie below 100 percent. Increasing taxes beyond that point would decrease tax revenue. Right now, we are at an optimal point in the curve. It may not seem like it based on our pocket books, but top economic experts would back this statement.

Now, Senator Obama promises a new series of tax breaks but they will undermine rather than improve economic incentives. First, whether or not you get those breaks will depend on your income. In Washington, taking away tax breaks as families work harder to make more money is called a “phase-out.” Economists have a different name for it—we call it a tax. Reducing a person’s tax credit as his income goes up also reduces his incentive to earn more income.

Second, Sen. Obama would make some credits refundable for families with credits bigger than their tax liability, which would also have the nefarious effect of raising marginal tax rates. For example, consider a worker in the 10 percent bracket with $1,000 of tax liability before credits who claims $1,200 in credits. The tax impact of earning an extra $100 depends on whether the credit is refundable. If it’s not refundable, there’s no tax penalty on earning the extra $100 because the worker’s tax liability stays at zero. But if the credit is refundable, earning the extra money pushes the tax up from negative $200 to negative $190—that’s a 10 percent penalty on earning income.
Although Obama is offering a new series of tax breaks, they undermine rather than improve economic incentives.

While Obama has publicly embraced a tax rate of 40 percent for couples earning over $350,000, his tax policies would result in a staggering 45 percent effective marginal rate in the $110,000 to $120,000 income range for this family. That is 11 percentage points higher than under current law. Lets not forget about the AMT tax, as those making over $250,000.00 a year are giving up nearly 50% of their income to tax. It's almost a fraudulent claim to say he is going to lower taxes, or make tax cuts. He will raise our taxes across the board, but uses the term "tax cuts" as a reference to a potential rebate we may recieve in the form of either a check or credit.

Posted by: Shawn | September 11, 2008 12:11 AM | Report abuse

Breaking news!

Breaking news!

Breaking news!


Obama on Letterman just said that Sarah Palin was just Lip-stick for McCain!

How is that not sexist. Sarah Palin is not mere window dressing desite what Obama's pattern of tihnking is.


Please feel free to repost this!!!!
This type of sexist attitude needs to be denounced.

Posted by: Maggie | September 11, 2008 12:04 AM

Posted by: Maggie | September 11, 2008 12:09 AM | Report abuse

Palin is a bridge for the oil companies to drill in the arctic national refuge. She works for the oil companies figuratively and literally in the case of her husband.

If mccain wins so do they. No electic vehicle manufacturing.
No alternative energy jobs.
No tax cuts for the middle classes.
No end to useless wars.

Posted by: seems to me | September 11, 2008 12:01 AM

Amen, seems to me. That's what this election boils down to.

Posted by: JP2 | September 11, 2008 12:08 AM | Report abuse

Breaking news!

Breaking news!

Breaking news!


Obama on Letterman just is just Lip-stick for McCain!

How is that not sexist. Sarah Palin is not mere window dressing desite what Obama's pattern of tihnking is.


Please feel free to repost this!!!!
This type of sexist attitude needs to be denounced.

Posted by: Maggie | September 11, 2008 12:04 AM | Report abuse

Palin is a bridge for the oil companies to drill in the arctic national refuge. She works for the oil companies figuratively and literally in the case of her husband.

If mccain wins so do they. No electic vehicle manufacturing.
No alternative energy jobs.
No tax cuts for the middle classes.
No end to useless wars.

Posted by: seems to me | September 11, 2008 12:01 AM | Report abuse

MadDonkey,

There is a direct correlation between the decline in wages for the typical American and government policies.

There is a direct correlation between the banking collapse-the subprime fiasco and the removal of regulations that were in place since the Great Depression.

So saying that these things just kind of happened in a vacuum and that politicians -- especially those in charge the last 8 years (largely Republicans) -- is to run away from the facts.

The Gramm-Leach-Bilely Act in 1999 written by McCain's on-again-off-again chief economic adviser Phil Gramm played a direct role in the subprime crisis and Phil Gramm's post-Senate career employer UBS was one of the biggest players in the crisis. Most economists are coming around the point of saying that Greenspan's actions keeping interest rates low for too long exacerbated the crisis.

Bush is responsible for the people that he put into oversight roles in the government -- and the Republican Senate is responsible for approving many of these choices.

As far as personal responsibility goes, the people who created the crisis are getting bailed out by tax-payers.

Same story with the Savings and Loan crisis which McCain had a hand in.

How do you square that with a "personal responsibility" ethos?

Posted by: JP2 | September 10, 2008 11:53 PM | Report abuse

Dang Fix you can't be anymore blatantly pro-Obama. Instead of spinning this. Show some objectivity for once. Take your bells out of Obama's and his wifes purse.

Posted by: Barry | September 10, 2008 11:42 PM | Report abuse

Aaron,

I would ask for sources on each of those claims -- most of those claims sound bogus -- not stuff that Obama claimed.

The only one that passes the smell test is the one about his father coming to the U.S. on a student Visa thanks to Kennedy.

"Contrary to Obama's claims in speeches in January at American University and in Selma last year, the Kennedy family did not provide the funding for a September 1959 airlift of 81 Kenyan students to the United States that included Obama's father. According to historical records and interviews with participants, the Kennedys were first approached for support for the program nearly a year later, in July 1960. The family responded with a $100,000 donation, most of which went to pay for a second airlift in September 1960."

To Obama's credit he corrected the record on the statement when the airlift date was brought to his attention.

Contrast with Palin who still claims to have fought against the Bridge to Nowhere -- even when the record says otherwise; or when McCain claims that "Obama is going to raise your taxes!" which is only true if he's speaking to an audience full of people with combined incomes over $250,000. They just continue to repeat the lie.

Posted by: JP2 | September 10, 2008 11:42 PM | Report abuse

I'd have to check the facts of the statement you quoted, but they could very well be correct. As for our country being in dire straights. It wasn't from failed policy, and anyone who thinks it is needs to finish economics 101. While our economic policy is sound, the greed behind the desks that manage it are not! We continue to bash Bush for the largest home mortgage failure since the great depression, for high gas prices, for job cuts...etc. When will we as Americans take responsibility for our own actions. Obama is looking petty and rediculous right now.

Posted by: MadDonkey | September 10, 2008 11:38 PM | Report abuse

jwald1,

Sadat is an interesting pick.

If we're talking about fundamentalists who made good though, he's not the best example.

He came from a generation of secular nationalist leaders. Remember, he was the guy who was gunned down by a fundamentalist.

Sadat was right-wing, but not in the Bush-Palin sense of the word.

Posted by: JP2 | September 10, 2008 11:33 PM | Report abuse

I thought the following in quotations was interesting, could someone set the record straight. "Obama claimed his parents met at the Selma March. Only thing is, he was born about 4 years before the Selma March. He claimed his father came over to the United States because of the generosity of President Kennedy. His father came to the US before Kennedy was president. Does Obama know anything about his or his family's beginnings? Apparently not. Just like he couldn't figure out what Reverend Wright stood for after 20 years. He makes up lies about his family...doesn't understand his minister. He will make Bush look like a Rhodes Scholar." While McCain and Palin are reaching Rock Star status the media continues to give Obama equal TV time...Please Stop it! Obama is giving me a headache with his talk in circle...no stance on the issues...pointed party line remarks. Just go check out his website, its enough to make anyone not want to vote for him. Hillary, "Can you please do something to help your party pick up the pieces".

Posted by: Aaron | September 10, 2008 11:30 PM | Report abuse

You seem to be fawning over McCain's strategy of lying about the meaning of what Obama said. You know, the press' acceptance of alternative realities is a major reason for why we as Americans currently find out country in dire straights. If people like you continue to merely delight at clever and underhanded strategizing while stoking the flames of broad acceptance of alternative realities, things will get even worse.

Instead of complimenting disgusting strategies that result in a loss for Americans, could you please make more of an effort to call out these cynical tactics when they happen? Please? It could end up saving civilization someday.

Posted by: Nate Holton | September 10, 2008 11:24 PM | Report abuse

jp2
Anwar Sedat.

Posted by: jwald1 | September 10, 2008 11:20 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Doug Christian | September 10, 2008 11:17 PM | Report abuse

Alaska ranks #1 alchol abuse,#3 drug abuse,#7 violent crimes.
And I think they could use some more sex ed as they rank #1 chlamydia,#25 gonorria, #28 syhilis. Boy, someone is doing a bang up job running that state!

Posted by: jwald1 | September 10, 2008 11:00 PM | Report abuse

viejo1,

Like I said, ante up, and we'll have a deal.

Honestly though, as the saying goes, if you really loved it, YOU would leave it.

America would be a lot more productive without Bush's base.

If you think Iran or Russia are the biggest threat to America, move there. In 8 years you could effectively do as much damage to their economy as you've done to ours.

Posted by: JP2 | September 10, 2008 10:54 PM | Report abuse

Hypocrisy.....

hy·poc·ri·sy Audio Help /hɪˈpɒkrəsi/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[hi-pok-ruh-see] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun, plural -sies. 1. a pretense of having a virtuous character, moral or religious beliefs or principles, etc., that one does not really possess.
2. a pretense of having some desirable or publicly approved attitude.
3. an act or instance of hypocrisy.


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[Origin: 1175–1225; ME ipocrisie < OF < LL hypocrisis < Gk hypókrisis play acting, equiv. to hypokr(nesthai) to play a part, explain (hypo- hypo- + krnein to distinguish, separate) + -sis -sis; h- (reintroduced in 16th century)

THE RNC'S AGENDA AND THE VERY CASE THAT JOHN MCCAIN AND GOV. SARAH PALIN TRY TO PROPORT IS NOTHING MORE THAN an ACT. It is UTTER HYPOCRISY. They are saying that Senator Barack Obama because he is intelligent influential and not to mention African American, he is not ready to lead. His proof....A BARRAGE OF MILLION DOLLAR ATTACK ADS WHICH ARE FILLED WITH LIES, MISCHARACTERIZATION, CHARACTER ASSASSINATION, EXPLOSIONS PEOPLE LIKE OSAMA BIN LADEN, FIDEL CASTRO, ETC. Yet, all the while the WORLD SEE'S MCCAIN/BUSH LOCKED IN EMBRACE......

Case Closed....

LIES, LIES, LIES, YEAH.....The Thompson Twins circa 80's

Posted by: need4trth | September 10, 2008 10:47 PM | Report abuse

I'm tired of trying to educate you emocrat dunces tonight-my last point.

Boiled down to its essence, your message is spewed in its inanity by your revered spokesman, Sean Combs.

"Ain't no crackheads in Alaska, John-come owen, man! You buggin'! Ain't no crime! We da fuecha!"

Democrat idealism in its purest form.

Posted by: viejo1 | September 10, 2008 10:41 PM | Report abuse

"Name one successful country or developed nation lead by a black person!

Posted by: History check | September 10, 2008 9:58 PM"


Botswana: Relatively stable and prosperous with a transparent government, despite a high HIV rate, which the government is fighting by providing education and anti-retroviral drugs to its citizens.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 10:35 PM | Report abuse

With that much money and prestige available, why didn't they teach you any common sense?
Tell you what, Mr. Oppenheimer-Washington, take it and go.

Posted by: viejo1 | September 10, 2008 10:35 PM | Report abuse

viejo1,

Here's the deal -- I'll move to Africa, but I'm taking the nukes that my father helped developed; I'll take the wealth that my great-great-great-great-great-grandfathers have developed going back to the Revolutionary era.

Let's talk about the price though -- I figure my stake in this country has to be worth at least a 50 million. Pony up and we'll have a deal.

Or don't, and it might be you whose getting the exit ticket.

Posted by: JP2 | September 10, 2008 10:29 PM | Report abuse

The Bombino, bill ayers is backing up, Jerry Wright got busted foolin' round indecent up in de lof' wit a married white girl, barry is going to hold off on his tax plan and Iraq pullout, smokin' joe biden admits he should have been passed over for Hillary, lobotobama's doin' the dozens with his opponent's Veep, McCain/Palin are surging in the polls, barry gets thrashed 4 times on O'reilly, admitting the surge was a success among other things, and all you Poindexters can come up with is lipstick on a pig?

Gloom, despair and agony on me
Deep, dark depression, excessive agony
Where oh where is Hill'ry
She's the veep for me
Gloom, blah

Heeeeeee-Haw!

Posted by: viejo1 | September 10, 2008 10:27 PM | Report abuse

Barack Obama calling a white woman a pig in lipstick fits in with his 20 year record of supporting a racist white-hating church like Trinity, where the perception of all white women as pigs in lipstick is a common held belief. Barack Obama is back-pedelling on his Freudian-slip only because he needs the white useful idiot vote. Barack Obama meant exactly what he said and only a very racist or stupid person could possibly believe otherwise.

Posted by: madhatter | September 10, 2008 10:21 PM | Report abuse

It's so sad the Republicans don't know how to tell the difference between a pig, a dog or a woman. Evidently they were too preoccupied with their studies of Creationism to pay attention to their kindergarten animal lesson. They think they're all the same creature, or, Sarah Palin is all of them. If someone is talking about a dog, they must really be talking about Sarah Palin. If someone is talking about a pig, they must really be talking about Sarah Palin. But if they are talking about Sarah Palin, what are they really talking about? We will never know the answer.

Posted by: Truth Maverick | September 10, 2008 10:20 PM | Report abuse

I'm gonna buy me a bottle of Dewars for election night - if my guy wins I'm gonna drink up - if the other guy wins I'm gonna drink up.

:-)

Posted by: toritto | September 10, 2008 10:16 PM | Report abuse

jp2

Move to africa, then.

Posted by: viejo1 | September 10, 2008 10:13 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin said the differnce between hockey mom a pig is lipstick.

A week later OHB says a pig with lipstick is still a pig. Many people said the statment sexist. Obama says he is being treated unfairly.

Hopefully you now know how half the country feels every time you, Jeremiah Wright, Jesse Jackson and all your other race-baiting friend twist innocent statements by conservatives as racists.

Let's not forget George Allen using a word, Macaca.

So take your lumps, you racist, bigot, America-hating, woman denigrating whiner.

Posted by: mmouse | September 10, 2008 10:10 PM | Report abuse

History check, South Africa, Thabo Mbecki is doing pretty well these days.

From the CIA factbook:

"South Africa is a middle-income, emerging market with an abundant supply of natural resources; well-developed financial, legal, communications, energy, and transport sectors; a stock exchange that is 17th largest in the world; and modern infrastructure supporting an efficient distribution of goods to major urban centers throughout the region. Growth has been robust since 2004, as South Africa has reaped the benefits of macroeconomic stability and a global commodities boom.

South African economic policy is fiscally conservative but pragmatic, focusing on controlling inflation, maintaining a budget surplus, and using state-owned enterprises to deliver basic services to low-income areas as a means to increase job growth and household income."

Angola is another example -- thanks to oil revenue the country has seen a 20 percent growth rate in recent years.

Now I turn around and ask you:

Name me one county where a wingnut fundamentalist (of any faith tradition) has created sustained economic growth across the income scales and increased the power and prestige of the nation?

Name me just ONE country in modern times where this has happened.

Posted by: JP2 | September 10, 2008 10:08 PM | Report abuse

This is hilarious. I love all the over-the-top, not-exactly-serious McCain campaign ads. Britney Spears, Paris Hilton, wolves... It's better than Saturday Night Live. The Democrats would do better just to laugh and get back to the issues, but the Democratic loyalist core is made up of hostile people, and they can't help but take the bait. Well, as they say, character is fate. So now, Democrats look like a humorless, mean-spirited, self-important, self-righteous crowd, kind of like the black-wearing, chain-smoking, coffee house crowd, but with messianic delusions. Republicans come off looking like a bunch of good-old boys and girls who know how to have a good time. As things stand, it looks like this election will be decided not on issues, or even on character, but on personality. Remember Bill Clinton? That's how he won.

Posted by: _kt_ | September 10, 2008 10:08 PM | Report abuse

That this comment is even being discussed demeans are country and will take us one step lower in the world opinion.

Obama hadn't mentioned Palin in his speech, so why when he suddenly mentions lipstick is it a sudden assumption that he is referring to her - who is being sexist there - maybe it had something to do with Palin comparing herself to a pit bull, maybe both pit bulls and pigs should be insulted. If Palin can't stand a non-insult what will she do if we need her to negotiate as a representative of this country? Let's turn to the issues and see where she stands on those.

By the way, equal treatment is equal, you can't be equal when you want and get special treatment when you want it - it doesn't work that way.

And to every Hillary supporter out there, and I am an ardent Hillary supporter, voting for McCain/Palin is a slap in her face. She campaigned for change. She believes in EQUAL rights for everyone, she believes in choice and she believes that this country is on the wrong course. Changing your vote just because there is a woman on the other side of the argument is letting the people who think that we don't have a brain win. Look at Palin's record, read about her, and you will know that she and McCain are the wrong choice for this country. This country has been lied to for years, look at the reasons that the war in Iraq started and look at the reasons for the war now - they've changed. McCain/Palin continue that trend of lying, read, think, and then make up your mind.

Posted by: Liz | September 10, 2008 10:06 PM | Report abuse

Leading dems now admit the harsh, abject truth: this election is a rabbit "barack the magic negro" will not pull out of his hat, and they're shaking from fear. (They call it jitters. Whatever.)
You libdems will save yourselves a lot of trouble by just writing this one off. Willie meant it when he offered up Chelsea for 2020. That's your next realistic shot.
Of course you'll lose then, too.
Until another Perot comes along, you'll lose, lose, lose.
Carter. Gore. Kerry. Obama.
It's got to be horribly depressing, I know, but hey-it gets worse.

Posted by: viejo1 | September 10, 2008 10:04 PM | Report abuse

foxbourgh1,

Thanks for proving my point.

Here are some "platitudes" for you that never materialized: "A reformer with results" and "compassionate conservatism".

The reality of the Bush years is record deficits, a war without end, declining middle class wages, skyrocketing energy costs, a seriously damaged global reputation, and record levels of corruption and political interference in the functions of government.

Effectively, McCain is advocating more of the same. Those aren't empty platitudes -- that's the reality.

A vote for McCain is a vote for Bush's 3rd term. He should at least be honest about it. Unfortunately, McCain is too consistently acting like George W. Bush to level with the American people about what he really intends to do. He's a liar without shame, or a sense of honor.

Posted by: JP2 | September 10, 2008 9:59 PM | Report abuse

OMG. The Qur'an is not a translated version of the Bible. The Qur'an is an original Arab text. The Torah,Psalms,Gospel are mentioned in it. I believe it was written in the early 600 A.D. I am no expert but I think the virgin reward thing is in the Hadith, not the Qur'an. They believe over the course of 23 years that the angel Gabriel told it to Muhammed. Sounds no stranger than any other religious belief. And if there is a GOD, I think he/she would be really pissed off that we keep killing his other children in his name A rose (GOD) by any other name is still a rose(GOD). I think if you actually read Jesus's words you would be a screaming liberal. Peace.

Posted by: jwald1 | September 10, 2008 9:58 PM | Report abuse

Name one successful country or developed nation lead by a black person!

Posted by: History check | September 10, 2008 9:58 PM | Report abuse

a pig is a pig is a palin.

Posted by: whatever | September 10, 2008 9:57 PM | Report abuse

Biden admits Hillary would have been a better VP pick, lobotobama reneges on fully half his platform, is down 15 points in some polls, and you morons think we really care about the lipstick crack?
Keep it up! We told you the guy didn't have any political experience, and that's why he's getting shredded.
"Street jive" don't cut it when you go up against honest people with nothing to hide and a legitimate platform.
Diddycrats-denial is the first stage of grief; MOVE ON to the acceptance stage.
It' over.
Like smokin' joe biden sez-you shoulda picked mrs. slick

Heeeeeeeeeeeeee-Haw!


Rube

Posted by: viejo1 | September 10, 2008 9:56 PM | Report abuse

More top Dems starting to freak out:

McCain Poll Surge, Fundraising Give Democrats Election Jitters

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aaWaPymjJ3rk&refer=worldwide

Obama and his supporters have been drinking a bit too much of their own Kool Aid. Remember, it's a race and you have to win it. Obama and his supporters have been acting all along like this will be a slam dunk. Big reality check in order. Wake up Dems!

Posted by: Bob Barr | September 10, 2008 9:55 PM | Report abuse

McCain/Palin '08

TWO PIGS IN A POKE

A common colloquial expression in the English language, to "buy a pig in a poke," is to make a risky purchase without inspecting the item beforehand. The phrase can also be applied to accepting an idea or plan without a full understanding of its basis.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pig_in_a_poke

Posted by: patriot76 | September 10, 2008 9:55 PM | Report abuse

Ode to Palin#1:

Little Ms. Palin
Keeps senile McCain from Fallin'
She can't tolerate a contrarian
Including the town librarian
Lipstick ain't hiding this she-Stalin

Posted by: Sam, PA | September 10, 2008 9:50 PM | Report abuse

I dreaded the possible election of McCain. Hearing Palin chills me to the bone. I'm a woman but don't care what gender or color a person is. The "content of their character" shows a woman so selfish she will abuse nuclear energy, drill the last unspoiled land of Alaska -anyone recall the beaches after the Exxon Valdiz?! The US presses on to continue gluttony of the World's resources while we wage a war that Congress never voted for. We are one of the only developed countries without health care or disability coverage. I'm becoming embarrassed to be an American!

Posted by: Leah DosSantos | September 10, 2008 9:49 PM | Report abuse

McCain is a war criminal who dropped bombs on civilians in Hanoi. He is lucky they didn't kill him on the spot where he crashed. After all, that's what he was doing to them.

Figures he'd pick a fascist running-mate.

Posted by: toritto | September 10, 2008 9:49 PM | Report abuse

We've just seen the tip of the iceberg of the
reds' style campaign. Cynicism,lies,smoke
screens,slogans are all they have. It should be obvious to anyone who can think that fear and loathing and stepping backward are all they can offer.Their standard bearer is a dishonest old fart, but plenty of old--and young--farts live in this country and will doubtless opt for the past which McCain represents. Good luck USA!

Posted by: vadutch67 | September 10, 2008 9:46 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: jef.davis | September 10, 2008 9:45 PM | Report abuse

Johnnie boy and Moose Barbie will come up with an outrageous lie a day for the next 55 days in order to confuse, divide and conquer.

Say ANYTHING in order to avoid talking about the issues.....change my a$$.

The media can call 'em on it anytime....

:-)

Posted by: toritto | September 10, 2008 9:45 PM | Report abuse

McCain/Palin '08

TWO PIGS IN A POKE

A common colloquial expression in the English language, to "buy a pig in a poke," is to make a risky purchase without inspecting the item beforehand. The phrase can also be applied to accepting an idea or plan without a full understanding of its basis.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pig_in_a_poke

Posted by: patriot76 | September 10, 2008 9:44 PM | Report abuse

The way McCain and Palin are prosecuting their campaign is the way they will govern the country. They will not suddenly change gears and become agents of change or thoughtful administrators or great hearts or public servants gauging and responding to the nation's real domestic and foreign policy needs. They are and will remain deference-demanding, continuous-campaigning, critic-drubbing, apology-demanding, personality-driven blatant falisifiers of the truth for personal ambition and political advantage. Another four years of abysmal lack of leadership and carpetbaggerism --masquerading as conservative Christian values.

This is not the party of Lincoln.

Posted by: GaryL1 | September 10, 2008 9:44 PM | Report abuse

Somewhere in America there is a village missing an idiot (AKA The Village Idiot). I think I know where he is and his name is "Obama."
And, I checked his campaign website, and as I suspected, it is platitudes and pablum for the masses. Don't you camp followers of the Obama Tribe think for yourselves? Go read Ayn Rand's "Atlas Shrugged" and reconsider your position.

Posted by: foxborough1 | September 10, 2008 9:43 PM | Report abuse

By all means, tell my aunt she is not a pig. But she needs to stop all the lies.

If the lies stick, we get McCain, and that will accelerate the mess in this country.

The man has lost his sense of honor--with the Keating 5, he began a slide into hypersex and lying.

Posted by: Melvin Palin | September 10, 2008 9:41 PM | Report abuse

I don't see what the big deal is. Palin and McCain are both fascist pigs. Palin is just the only one wearing lipstick... at least I haven't seen McCain wearing lipstick. Could be a fetish of his or something.

Posted by: guitaristo | September 10, 2008 9:41 PM | Report abuse

McCain is desperate. Don't run away from the issues! Whoever votes for this man is a tool.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 9:41 PM | Report abuse

America has to put up with this crap for 50-odd days? Whoever wins this contest is whoever initiates the least fatigue. And let me tell you, it ain't going to be Biden!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 9:40 PM | Report abuse

You know. God IS in this. He isn't a liberal, He isn't a conservative, He isn't a respector of persons, so it doesn't matter if you are a male or female. It doesn't matter what poll you edge in, one way or the other. It is fully about on which side of righteousness you stand, and on who seeks to serve the needs of those He loves the most, "the least of these".

And one thing he isn't, is "the author of confusion".

Many in this nation, His beloved faithful, have prayed for a change; for mercy from their present condition. For peace from years of war. And change has come to them as a result of that faithful prayer. (The effectual fervent prayer of the righteous man shall availeth much.) Yet, it is for them to accept it or reject it. What is for certain, the hearts of the righteous makes it clear the answer to their prayers, our punishment will be to knowingly make the wrong decision. Our punishment will be to LIVE, and for some die, with the wrong decision.

Posted by: concernedaboutdc | September 10, 2008 9:40 PM | Report abuse

If Caribou Barbie is so offended over a common expression, how is she going to handle Al Qaeda?

If anything, McSame should be apologizing for his latest ad, mischaracterizing Senator Obama's program designed to protect kindergarten-aged children from sexual predators as "sex education for preschoolers". McBush is a liar and an adulterer, and Caribou Barbie is a pathological serial liar, a thief and a cheat. I don't want to hear any more bleating and whining from the Greedy Oil Party.


Palin is a perfect fit for McCain because she's a pathological serial liar just like he is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xbn_AXlaeY
.

Posted by: Bill w | September 10, 2008 9:38 PM | Report abuse

Does anybody know what the words "backwardation" and "contango" mean? They sure have more to do with your wallet than Sarah Palin's makeup (not to mention the 10 lbs of white pancake on McCain) does.

If not, that's why there's this long thread about lipstick. One in a series of threads about how well Sarah Palin "connects" with the American people.

That's great for them. I'm just waiting for one Swiss Franco to "connect" in the market with 12 US dollars spot rate.

So, you're starving and thirsty. Sarah Palin will call Jesus to save you. And make sure to call him "Mr. Christ"

Posted by: DexterManley | September 10, 2008 9:35 PM | Report abuse

How politically correct can you get? Now the Republicans flutter like a bunch of butterflies when someone says lipstick.
Now the word lipstick as owned by Sarah Palin must be used very very carefully because one woman compares herself to a pit bull. She called herself a dog! So why is she so sensitive now? By calling herself a female dog (which is a word rhyming with stitch) has she not demeaned all women? I wonder what pitbulls think about being compared to such a person.

Posted by: mightycrows | September 10, 2008 9:34 PM | Report abuse

It's funny. Pallin is a woman that Cindy McCain wouldn't have been caught dead hanging out with until she got picked to solidify the fascist wing of the GOP.

Maybe Sarah can get into a good Republican country club now and Cindy can get her a make-over from a good stylist.....and while we're at it we can nominate Johnnie boy for a Nobel for defending women's rights......

Heehee..........

Posted by: toritto | September 10, 2008 9:33 PM | Report abuse

"Also, Obama is a savvy politician who has been at this for 20 straight months. It's hard to believe he would purposely make a comparison between the Republican vice presidential candidate and a barnyard animal -- knowing full well the frenzy that would ensue."

It's even harder to believe that a seasoned politician who had held major statewide offices for a total of ten years (having thus won two statewide elections) would, in the course of his third such election, point to a young man videotaping him and use a racial slur against him, knowing full well that the camera was rolling. But that's exactly what George Allen did in 2006.

Knowing Obama's propensity toward gaffes -- there may already be Obamisms than Bushisms -- I wouldn't put it past Barack "57 states" Obama to say something completely idiotic once again.

I say this not to prove that Obama intentionally called Sarah Palin a pig -- I doubt he did, but his audience in that video might beg to differ with me -- but instead to dispell the logically falacy of this argument.

Merely saying that a candidate has been running for 20 months does not automatically preclude him from making gaffes. And merely calling Obama savvy does not make it so. He is savvy only in the eyes of the media who willfully blind themselves to his numerous moronic comments.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 9:33 PM | Report abuse

It' happening again Libs! Even your own top strategists realize you're gonna lose another election.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0908/13357.html

Gee, if after 8 years of Bush you can't win this one, you really are a bunch of pathetic losers...

McCain/Palin '08!!!

Posted by: Karl Rove | September 10, 2008 9:32 PM | Report abuse

What a hypocrite! I believed in Senator Obama! My six voting members of my democratic party family believed in Obama. Four of my family members are females and devoted supporters of Senator Clinton. We all thought that he was going to be the change that this country needed. I was so pysched up for my democratic convention, but Obama picked Biden, who is not a change but one of the big problems. Now look at Senator McCain who picked an outsider, and most of all, a hard working professional woman who believes in America. I may not agree with everything that Senator McCain stands for, but he''s a better choice than that wishy-washy, back-sliding, bend at every blow of the wind, change your stance, and big time HYPOCRITE OBAMA! HE REALLY LET US DOWN! WHAT OTHER LIES IS HE GOING TO SPREAD NOW? HE PROMISED CHANGE, BUT WHO REALLY LOOKED OUT OF THE BOX? SENATOR CLINTON DEMOCRATS FOR CHANGE AND FOR SENATOR MCCAIN! THIS CAMPAIGN IS GOING TO GET REAL NASTY AND OBAMA STARTED IT BY CALLING GOVERNOR PALIN A PIG. I WONDER IF HE''S LOOKED AT HIS WIFE''S LIPS LATELY? SHE''S NO GODESS EITHER. STAY FOCUSED OR THINGS WILL REALLY GET OUT OF HAND. THIS IS AS GREAT AS BIDEN TALKING A DEFEATEST ATTITUDE TODAY! YOUR ARROGANCE IS GOING TO BITE YOU ALL. DON''T COME CRYING TO ME.

Posted by: visnovsky | September 10, 2008 9:32 PM | Report abuse

Stephen,

Congratulations on your doctorate!

Nevertheless, you referred to the statement in the context of the "audience response" -- not in the context of the sentences that proceeded it.

A person does not need a doctorate or an elaborate theory of interpretation to understand the meaning of words plainly spoken.

It does help to read sentences in the context of the sentences that proceeded it.

For example, Obama states that McCain has all of a sudden co-opted the words "change" "change" "change" -- a contradiction of his earlier focus on experience.

Obama states that McCain's policies are no different than Bush's in a number of areas; therefore, his co-option of the words "change" are "putting lipstick on a pig".

The "pig" being equal to "policies advocated" by Bush. The lipstick being "McCain's use of the words 'change'".

It does not logically follow that the Bush administration policies advocated by McCain equal Sarah Palin.

I think the clinical term for that kind of reading is "delusional" -- i.e. not coherent; not grounded in logic.

Posted by: JP2 | September 10, 2008 9:31 PM | Report abuse

Criticizing the McCain-Palin ticket's attempts to separate themselves from President Bush, Sen. Barack Obama said yesterday, "You can put lipstick on a pig. It's still a pig." The problem for him is it appeared to relate directly to Gov. Palin's remark at the GOP convention that "lipstick" is what separates a hockey mom from a pit bull. The AP notes his comment was received with "an outbreak of laughter, shouts and raucous applause from his audience." The AP adds "McCain's campaign called the comments 'offensive and disgraceful' and said Obama owes Palin an apology." The Wall Street Journal notes "Republicans struck back" at the lipstick comment "calling the attacks on" Palin "old-style Washington attacks that run counter to Obama's promise of change." RNC spokeswoman Amber Wilkerson said, "Sarah Palin's maverick record of reform doesn't need any 'dressing up,' but the Obama campaign's condescending commentary deserves some dressing down." The Los Angeles Times, under the headline "Race Goes From Pork To Pigs," says "a day of tussling in the presidential campaign ended Tuesday with a fight over, of all things, lipstick-wearing pigs."

Some of the big media is skeptical of the GOP complaints. The Washington Post recounts "four reporters were allowed to pose questions during" a conference call with" former Massachusetts Gov. Jane Swift (R), aiding the McCain camp, "and three of them were from women who asked, with obvious incredulity, whether Swift believed that Obama was referring to Palin. When one reporter asked Swift why she assumed the remarks were directed at Palin, Swift replied: 'It seemed to me a gendered comment. There's only one woman in the race.'" CBS didn't mention the controversy, while ABC World News simply reported, "Now, some members of the audience thought" Obama "was surely talking about...Palin's joke last week that the difference between a hockey mom and a pit bull is lipstick, but a spokesman for Obama said no, he was just using an old expression." NBC Nightly News reported the audience at an Obama event "actually started chanting no more pit bull. Pretty sarcastic reference to that lipstick joke that...Palin made at the GOP convention."

Posted by: Bashan | September 10, 2008 9:30 PM | Report abuse

Real Brother here.

I totally disagree with those who are saying that Obama regretted the pig comment.Obama is not like that,he's too bright he's too sharp.Sure many of his supporters want him to take the gloves off and attack Sarah Palin but she's the VP not the nominee so what in the HELL would Obama be attacking or even addressing her for?

I'm saying that if Barack Obama wanted to call Sarah Palin a "pig" he would have done so and he would have made it clear. This is a case of White Supremacists and Racists trying to make Obama out to be Sexist and I can see it but others can't.

TKCAL

Posted by: Realbrother | September 10, 2008 9:30 PM | Report abuse

Lipstick on a Pig: Winning In the No-Spin Era by Someone Who Knows the Game (Hardcover)
by Torie Clarke (Author)

McCain used this phrase to describe Hil Clinton in 2007.

This is a cliche that has deeper reference to McCain than Palin.

Vote on issues- say no to identity politics.

Posted by: oline | September 10, 2008 9:29 PM | Report abuse

All I can say is if the lipstick fits, wear it. whiteagle38

Posted by: whiteagle38 | September 10, 2008 9:29 PM | Report abuse

"To jump all over the word lipstick is ridiculous. More of the same old politics."

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Right. It's like 2004 all over again! And 2000. And 1996. 1992. 1988. 1984. 1980. 1972. 1968.

Stay tuned! Can the American people be bamboozled for a third staight election?! Find out in 55 days!

Posted by: dave | September 10, 2008 9:28 PM | Report abuse

McCain doesn't understand the importance of the politics of perception but of DECEPTION. Look how many goofy Americans, and particularly the Republican party, are all up in arms about the lipstick on a pig comment. I think it shows perfectly that the Republican party understands how stupid the American electorate is. Instead of debating, discussing, demanding answers on our COUNTRY, you know, the economy, housing, the banking crisis, healthcare, education, people are worked up over a stupid comment that doesn't mean *anything* to the American family. And the media is even stupider, because they are making it a headline story. Americans might just be the dumbest people on earth.

Posted by: Gilla | September 10, 2008 9:26 PM | Report abuse

Do you democrats ever wonder why Martin Luther King was a republican ?

Dr.King hated democrats, because you are racist, sexist, communist, backwoods Sh!t kickers.

Not much has changed.


Posted by: Bishop TuTu | September 10, 2008 9:25 PM | Report abuse

Chris in the article says quite accurately: "It seems hard -- if not impossible -- to believe that Obama intended to equate Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin and a pig."
That's right. Why would he do such a thing? What would be in it for him?

Conservatives have long bleated about liberals being too politically correct and thin skinned, but when it suits some of them they trot it out the patently phony pseuedo-outrage. Oh come on. Does Sarah own the word lipstick. Obama's metaphor is an old one. If you put a superficial cosmetic on a poor economic plan it is still a poor economic plan. To jump all over the word lipstick is ridiculous. More of the same old politics.

Posted by: mightycrows | September 10, 2008 9:24 PM | Report abuse

Chicago1 (foxborough1?): "His remarks on Pakistan and Jerusalem in the past demonstrate what an unfortunate trait this can be in serious matters."

And Sunday, I read the newspaper, and American forces had struck at the Taliban/al-Qaida in Pakistan. Who got criticized for saying he might do that if he were President? I think he was black...

Posted by: dave | September 10, 2008 9:22 PM | Report abuse

yet another liberal lap dog wrote: "I just have to comment on this. Anyone who is out there perpetuating this story, whether objectively or subjectively should officially be regarded for the rest of their lives as superficial gossip hounds with zero intellectual honesty whatsoever."

So, your vote is to have everyone be quite about Obamas sexism and bs and mean spirited nature and maybe it will all just go away.

NOT A CHANCE!!!

Posted by: KMichaels | September 10, 2008 9:05 PM

Too Funny....

Obama used the same term MANY MANY MANY times on his stump..BEFORE PAILIN was on the map.. Where were you and the other blind sheep during the primaries and campaign?

Posted by: Vance C. McDaniel | September 10, 2008 9:18 PM | Report abuse

John McCain is swimming in sleaze at this point. How dishonorable. When a candidate seeks out low-life creep territory, should Americans want to vote for him?

How sleazy, how creepy, how unworthy of a many who is supposed to be honorable, but who doesn't act that way.

Posted by: somerseten | September 10, 2008 9:18 PM | Report abuse


I happened to say to a friend today, you can't put lipstick on a pig. She replied, or a pitbull. SHE HAD NOT EVEN HEARD THE STORY, and is an Obama supporter of course. So anyone would make the connection, and a man who was not a walking gaffe waiting to happen would have had the judgment not to say such a thing.

His remarks on Pakistan and Jerusalem in the past demonstrate what an unfortunate trait this can be in serious matters.

Just more ammunition with which we married "ordinary white" women are going to take Obama down.

Posted by: Chicago1 | September 10, 2008 9:17 PM | Report abuse

foxbrough1, there's plenty of policy stuff on Obama's website -- there are plenty of details in his written comments and in his legislative history.

Name the issue and we can talk.

Obama has received scrutiny going all the way back to the primaries -- we've even had a focus on bogus stories and manufactured controversies like this one.

McCain has received little scrutiny. Why is he trusted on the economy when he selects as his chief economic adviser one of the architects of the subprime mortgage crisis? (e.g. Phil Gramm re-wrote our banking laws removing banking regulations that were put in place following the Great Depression). How about McCain's involvement in the Savings and Loan crisis? The man has ties to the two largest banking failures since the Great Depression. His economic policies on things such as taxation contradict previous stands and continue Bush's worst excesses.

There's a good reason why former Fed Chair Paul Volcker has backed Obama and not McCain. There's a good reason too why Obama has opted for a taxation policy that resembles Clintons and not George W. Bush's. He wants to create jobs, McCain wants to bleed the middle class and create even more massive deficits than Bush has dumped on us.

Posted by: JP2 | September 10, 2008 9:17 PM | Report abuse

Dear JP2,

I referenced the evidence for you as well as the context. There is nothing more I can do. Thank you for wishing me luck, but I already have my doctorate.

Posted by: Stephen | September 10, 2008 9:17 PM | Report abuse

Hey Real Brother, don't you have some more Obama supporters to register down at the local welfare office and methadone clinic?

Posted by: Colonel Stuart | September 10, 2008 7:31 PM
____________________________

Reply:


They are all in rural America and already registered.

Oh yea - go and check out Portland Oregon or Seattle Washington - guess what??? this isn't about RACE you dumbarses. Go down to S.W. Virginia and check out who's in line for the methadone clinic

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 9:15 PM | Report abuse

foxborough ditto-head: "he reason is: We McCain voters have not seen or read one cogent argument from the O'Bamaman as to what his "issues" are. Platitudes will take him only so far but at some point he has to flesh out his platform."

Obama will repeal the Bush tax-cut on the highest income earners while decreasing taxes for 95% of Americans.

Obama has a comprehensive energy plan relying on higher fuel efficiency standards, hybrid cars, and alternative sources of energy such as wind and solar.

Obama wants to responsibly withdraw troops from Iraq and place some in Afghanistan.

Obama understands that the only three options for dealing with Iran is war, negotiation or doing nothing. He will choose negotiation before going to war and instead of doing nothing but tough talk, a la McCain.

Obama will attempt to make college more affordable by offering grants to students for performing community service (which, incidentally, will enrich their educational experience).

Obama will cut taxes for small business.

Obama will implement an immigration policy that respects both the security of our country and the security of families.

Obama will run the war against al-Qaida and similar groups with an attempt to protect those who are innocent from being lumped together with those who are guilty.

Obama will respect the Constitution, not destroy it.

Certainly, these are intentions. And the actual implementation will require some negotiation and compromise, and some parts of any ambitious plan may not succeed. However, to say he has no concrete plan is absolutely misleading.

Posted by: dave | September 10, 2008 9:13 PM | Report abuse

anon 8:54
are you scared to get on an airplane with a Muslim?
are you scared to just be NEAR a person of Muslim faith?
Why do you buy the media HYPE? Why don't you educated yourself on the Middle East - the conflicts, the religions, etc...
I'm not ignorant - I know there is a group of people hoping the U.S. is destroyed - but guess what, some of our OWN (like T. McVey) would LOVE to see the same.

Posted by: hysteria_625 | September 10, 2008 9:13 PM | Report abuse

Hey Real Brother, don't you have some more Obama supporters to register down at the local welfare office and methadone clinic?

Posted by: Colonel Stuart | September 10, 2008 7:31 PM
____________________________

Reply:


They are all in rural America and already registered.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 9:12 PM | Report abuse

You don't think McCain is connecting with women all across this country? Check out the new Gallup poll just in today. McCain registers as many new voters as Obama has. So much for the new Democrats coming in to save the day.

Oh well, at least there's 2012, when Hillary's back. By then it will be a heated Palin - Clinton match-up.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 9:12 PM | Report abuse

KMichaels

What a feeble, misinformed, pathetic and totally grabasstic comment. Sorry to break it to you, but with the exception of Robert Bird, who renounced his membership to the Klan, Kluckers are almost exclusively Republicans nowadays. I say almost because after LBJ, most of the Kluckers abandoned the Democratic party joined the Republican party. The rest of the rabble went on to create other independent parties. The current Republican party is nothing like the GOP before Nixon. Sorry that that ruined your little dream. Better luck next time

Posted by: the_Dude | September 10, 2008 9:11 PM | Report abuse

Stephen, your evidence is anything but "incontrovertible". You don't even provide any evidence -- you just make an assertion.

An alternative reading could be that the audience laughed because he was making a statement about "policies" -- and, like most good jokes, they found his statement to resonate as a statement that was true.

Given that that the comments were made in the context of a discussion about "policies" -- that would seem to be a reasonable conclusion.

Most people with ordinary sense would understand that the words in context are the first place to look.

Good luck with the degree.

Posted by: JP2 | September 10, 2008 9:09 PM | Report abuse

"KMichaels, I would bet that today most KKK members actually registered for a party is Republican."

Of course you would say that. That is what you idiot democrats have been pre-conditioned to say. You prey off of the poor and uneducated and then lie your way with racist claims and other scare tactics.

Dont think for a moment that the KKK democrats have changed their spots. They have just revised their tactics.

Posted by: KMichaels | September 10, 2008 9:09 PM | Report abuse

in case you haven't figured it out yet....


McCain and Palin are lying to sell a product....


out right lying....


it's AMERICA's chance to sue the REPUBLICANS and make back some money....


take advantage of this opportunity do it as a citizen....I don't care what party you support....

FRAUD IS FRAUD....or have the DEMOCRATIC PARTY SUE THE REPUBLICANS FOR FALSIFYING INFORMATAION....


POLLUTING THEINFORMATION STREAM...


clean up AMERICA, stop fraud in it's tracks.


saying Palin was against the Bridge to NoWhere and she stopped it...


no one stopped it, certainly not her...


that's called FRAUD, they're selling the REPUBLIC SCAMMMMMER product....


sue them for false advertising and fraud....


"tax and spend democrats," is also FRAUD


Ronald "Death Valley Dazed" Reagan and the bush teams have taxed and spent the United States into a deficit each time...

usually for $_TRILLIONS_$....a 4 year term...


going into Bechtel, KBR, Halliburton, und Carlyle Group achtung...


only the _CLINTON_years_ were deficitfree...

check it out, and while you're checking it out...

SEARCH on LIPS, bush, Victor ashe, Ken Mehlman, Karl Rove, Guckert, Gannon, ALL GAY...

the repulsive scammers

using the phrase "tax and spend" democrats is deliberate and MISLEADING


FRAUD....


sue them....and sxxx down their throats after you win judgement...


that'll get some HEADLINES.....


and as far as lipsticks on pigs, anyone that compares her mug to that of a pit bull isn't concerned about feminism...


after all she'd rather her daughter got pregnant that she learn about birth control and responsible sex...


I have to say Biden calling off the dawgs on Palins' daughter


smells of Kerrys' dive....


why is he giving the wolverines a competitive edge????


these fxxxers lie as easily as other people relieve themselves...


they don't need a break, they need JAILTIME....


give it to 'em, help AMERICA OUT of it's MONETARY and ECONOMIC CRISIS of nation breaking proportions...


play fair???? MAKE THEM or WIN and then play fair...


SUE THEM into submission, and take their lives away.


.


.

Posted by: an intimate peek at intelligence.... | September 10, 2008 9:08 PM | Report abuse

in case you haven't figured it out yet....


McCain and Palin are lying to sell a product....


out right lying....


it's AMERICA's chance to sue the REPUBLICANS and make back some money....


take advantage of this opportunity do it as a citizen....I don't care what party you support....

FRAUD IS FRAUD....or have the DEMOCRATIC PARTY SUE THE REPUBLICANS FOR FALSIFYING INFORMATAION....


POLLUTING THEINFORMATION STREAM...


clean up AMERICA, stop fraud in it's tracks.


saying Palin was against the Bridge to NoWhere and she stopped it...


no one stopped it, certainly not her...


that's called FRAUD, they're selling the REPUBLIC SCAMMMMMER product....


sue them for false advertising and fraud....

using the ADVERTISEMENT nee PROPAGANDA line,

"tax and spend democrats," is also FRAUD


Reagan and the bush teams have taxed and spent the United States into a deficit each time...

of $TRILLIONS OF DOLLAReOS$


only the _Clinton_ years were deficitfree...


using the phrase "tax and spend" democrats is deliberate


FRAUD....


sue them....und shictt down dere troats...


that'll get some HEADLINES.....


and as far as lipsticks on pigs, anyone that compares her mug to that of a pit bull isn't concerned about feminism...


after all she'd rather her daughter got pregnant that she learn about birth control and responsible sex...


I have to say Biden calling off the dawgs on Palins' daughter


smells of Kerrys' dive....


why is he giving the wolverines a competitive edge????


these fxxxers lie as easily as other people relieve themselves...


they don't need a break, they need JAILTIME....


give it to 'em, help AMERICA OUT of it's MONETARY and ECONOMIC CRISIS of nation breaking proportions...


play fair???? MAKE THEM or WIN and then play fair...


SUE THEM into submission, and take their lives away.


.


.


Posted by: howsaboutthemapples freddy????? | September 10, 2008 9:07 PM | Report abuse

I went to a Balbina Herrera fund-raiser down here and got a great meal at which I was seated at her table. Dinner was followed by a double-bill of a heavy-metal band and a reggaeton band. There was an open bar. It was really fun.

What exactly, Chris, do you get for your daily work on behalf of the McCain campaign? Oh, that's right, your job!

Posted by: DexterManley | September 10, 2008 9:06 PM | Report abuse

yet another liberal lap dog wrote: "I just have to comment on this. Anyone who is out there perpetuating this story, whether objectively or subjectively should officially be regarded for the rest of their lives as superficial gossip hounds with zero intellectual honesty whatsoever."

So, your vote is to have everyone be quite about Obamas sexism and bs and mean spirited nature and maybe it will all just go away.

NOT A CHANCE!!!

Posted by: KMichaels | September 10, 2008 9:05 PM | Report abuse

JP2 said: "It's interesting that most McCain voters are voting based on "personal" stuff, not the issues."

JP2 - The reason is: We McCain voters have not seen or read one cogent argument from the O'Bamaman as to what his "issues" are. Platitudes will take him only so far but at some point he has to flesh out his platform. The drive-by media won't press him on the issues so all that's left is the "personal" issues.
So far that has been the O'Bamaman's way of running incognito. Don't blame us because he is not man enough to face us square on. He's hiding behind Michelle's skirt.

Posted by: foxborough1 | September 10, 2008 9:05 PM | Report abuse

Biden was the wrong choice from the start.

Posted by: Damian Rumchapel | September 10, 2008 9:04 PM | Report abuse

i'm glad mccain remembered to use me

Posted by: karl rove's political manual | September 10, 2008 9:04 PM | Report abuse

As a psychologist and student of hermeneutics it is quite incontrovertible from the context that Obama was referencing Palin. According to "Reader Response Theory" one needs to look at the audience's response to a statement so as to ascertain its meaning. By the time Obama said "You can put lipstick....," indeed, at the precise time he uttered the word "lipstick," the actual audience present during his speech broke out in wild laughter. Furthermore, by the time he had finished his "maxim" most of the audience was clapping and cheering. Now, either the audience has a pathetic sense of humor or they were of average intelligence and knew precisely whom he was referencing, i.e., Sarah Palin.

Posted by: Stephen Greenhouse | September 10, 2008 9:03 PM | Report abuse

in case you haven't figured it out yet....


McCain and Palin are lying to sell a product....


out right lying....


it's AMERICA's chance to sue the REPUBLICANS and make back some money....


take advantage of this opportunity do it as a citizen....I don't care what party you support....

FRAUD IS FRAUD....or have the DEMOCRATIC PARTY SUE THE REPUBLICANS FOR FALSIFYING INFORMATAION....


POLLUTING THEINFORMATION STREAM...


clean up AMERICA, stop fraud in it's tracks.


saying Palin was against the Bridge to NoWhere and she stopped it...


no one stopped it, certainly not her...


that's called FRAUD, they're selling the REPUBLIC SCAMMMMMER product....


sue them for false advertising and fraud....


"tax and spend democrats," is also FRAUD


Ronald "Death Valley Dazed" Reagan and the bush teams have taxed and spent the United States into a deficit each time...

usually for $_TRILLIONS_$....a 4 year term...


going into Bechtel, KBR, Halliburton, und Carlyle Group achtung...


only the _CLINTON_years_ were deficitfree...

check it out, and while you're checking it out...

SEARCH on LIPS, bush, Victor ashe, Ken Mehlman, Karl Rove, Guckert, Gannon, ALL GAY...

the repulsive scammers

using the phrase "tax and spend" democrats is deliberate and MISLEADING


FRAUD....


sue them....and sxxx down their throats after you win judgement...


that'll get some HEADLINES.....


and as far as lipsticks on pigs, anyone that compares her mug to that of a pit bull isn't concerned about feminism...


after all she'd rather her daughter got pregnant that she learn about birth control and responsible sex...


I have to say Biden calling off the dawgs on Palins' daughter


smells of Kerrys' dive....


why is he giving the wolverines a competitive edge????


these fxxxers lie as easily as other people relieve themselves...


they don't need a break, they need JAILTIME....


give it to 'em, help AMERICA OUT of it's MONETARY and ECONOMIC CRISIS of nation breaking proportions...


play fair???? MAKE THEM or WIN and then play fair...


SUE THEM into submission, and take their lives away.


.


.


Posted by: his blessedness.... | September 10, 2008 9:03 PM | Report abuse

KMichaels, I would bet that today most KKK members actually registered for a party is Republican. Former KKK grand wizard David Duke started out as a Democrat at the beginning of his political career, but then switched to the Republican party.

But obviously most Republicans don't support the KKK, just like most Democrats don't. Trying to tie the KKK to either party is a bit of a joke.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 9:02 PM | Report abuse

libby wrote: "Honestly, I'm not impressed that McCain picked Sara Palin. I'm not even more impressed that with less than 60 days from elections there's this "hovering and protection of sorts""

Good for you. On the otherhand those that count are impressed with his choice and the numbers show it.

As to protecting the running mate, I see Sarah all over the place yet nary a sign of Joe Biden what's his name.

Maybe you need to put on thicker glasses.

Posted by: KMichaels | September 10, 2008 9:02 PM | Report abuse

Honestly I think Sarah Palin could care less about these comments we are getting so worked up over.

Palin is in Obama's head right now and it is showing big time.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 9:00 PM | Report abuse

Its true that the Democratic party has not always been full of truth and righteousness.

Can a party change?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 9:00 PM | Report abuse

chris, that's a silly comparison, last i checked murdering a presidential candidate could not be termed an aphorism or a proverb or a cliche or whatever, it was juts a stupid things to say. but hey, i would expect nothing less considering the lazy journalism prevalent this year. as they say "you can bring a horse to water, but you can't make it drink."

Posted by: ewwww | September 10, 2008 9:00 PM | Report abuse

PLEASE SHUT THE FUCH UP ABOUT OBAMA AND TELL ME ANYTHING THAT IS GOOD ABOUT MCCAIN.


IF IT WAS A PILE OF DOG SHICT VERSE OBAMA, YOU WOULD HAVE THE DOG SHICT BE PRESIDENT WITHOUT HAVING THE DOG SHICT TELL YOU ANYTHING ABOUT ITS POLICYS.

IF YOU COMMENT ABOUT SOME STUPID SHICT ABOUT OBAMA, INSTEAD OF REAL POLICIES FOR AMERICA, YOU ARE A FUCHING ASSHAT WHO NEEDS TO GET THE FUCH OUT OF AMERICA.

PLEASE TELL ME SOMETHING GOOD ABOUT MCCAIN'S POLICIES. I BET MY SOUL THAT HE HAS NOTHING PLANNED THAT YOU LIKE. I BET MY SOUL THAT YOU JUST WANT TO TALK SHICT ON OBAMA WITHOUT ANY KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT THESE TWO MEN HAVE PLANNED FOR AMERICA.

GO TO www.johnmccain.com and www.barackobama.com AND EDUCATE YOURSELF.

"DRUNK AND STUPID IS NO WAY TO GO THROUGH LIFE."
~~~~~~~

Tim good job of not using bad words. Do not worry the Compost wouldn't toss you, you are their kind of people!

Posted by: Tim's words | September 10, 2008 8:59 PM | Report abuse

Real Brother here.

I disagree that Obama should take the gloves off and pound these Racists, White Supremacists and Black man hating lesbians. I say write them off, we didn't need them to defeat Hillary and we won't need to defeat Sarah Palin.

People keep thinking that if the Racists and White Supremacists and Black man hating lesbians continue to attack Obama and he doesn't attack back that people will vote for the Racists and White Supremacists due to these attacks, its simply NOT true.

Don't let them fool you, those Racists (WS, BMHL's) who are set in their ways will vote for McCain anyway.The VAST MAJORITY of this Country will do as was done in the Primary, they will vote for who has the BETTER argument. The Republicans concede that Obama has the best argument the most experience, represents more CHANGE is simply more intelligent and better qualified or the office. McCain has to beat Obama, he can't do it by failing to make an argument.

Keep the gloves on, and continue to make a better argument and McCain and Palin will fade off into the Sunset.

TKCAL

Posted by: Realbrother | September 10, 2008 8:58 PM | Report abuse

dem obama lap dog wrote: "If she isn't a token, when is she going to defend herself, or graciously say ' Oh, I know Senator Obama wasn't referring to little ole me'?

And when is she going to answer questions on public library books, interference in the employment of her former brother in law, and a few other trivial points."

Actually, she has been asked and answered your questions over 100 times. You dem lap dogs really need to keep in touch with reality. You really think any of your lunatic concerns are new? They are old stuff dems have been spewing in Alaska since Palin took office.

Her ex brother in law threatened to kill her dad, her sister and herself. Not a nice guy. Obviously he deserved to be let go.

And stop with the token bs, you dumb old lap-dogs.

Posted by: KMichaels | September 10, 2008 8:58 PM | Report abuse

Honestly, I'm not impressed that McCain picked Sara Palin. I'm not even more impressed that with less than 60 days from elections there's this "hovering and protection of sorts" before she gets her first interview, let alone go alone in campaigning for McCain. If McCain really wanted to shake up things by presenting himself to be a progressor of women's rights, then Jodi Rell would have been the better choice. Guarantee you, Rell would have been ready from day one to respond. So, McCain doesn't get an applause from me for putting Palin on the V.P.- it looked like straight up pandering from where I sit.

Posted by: Too Wired | September 10, 2008 8:58 PM | Report abuse

I just have to comment on this. Anyone who is out there perpetuating this story, whether objectively or subjectively should officially be regarded for the rest of their lives as superficial gossip hounds with zero intellectual honesty whatsoever. If this is the best we can do for national dialogue, we are in serious serious trouble as a country. I really wonder if we haven't finally hit rock bottom in our constant obsession to stick our heads in the trivial sands of political nonsense while wars, famine, and disease rage around. Please come out against this kind of thing Chris, and encourage your counterparts to do the same.

Posted by: Wow | September 10, 2008 8:57 PM | Report abuse

I think the Republicans just need to let this comment die. I do not think Obama meant for it to be mean spirited, and I think if he could have taken it back the minute it came out of his mouth he would have. I am no fan of Obama's but I think this was just the wrong choice of words at the wrong time. It happens, lets move on and get to the issues that matter.

Posted by: get over your lipstick | September 10, 2008 8:57 PM | Report abuse

in case you haven't figured it out yet....


McCain and Palin are lying to sell a product....


out right lying....


it's AMERICA's chance to sue the REPUBLICANS and make back some money....


take advantage of this opportunity do it as a citizen....I don't care what party you support....

FRAUD IS FRAUD....or have the DEMOCRATIC PARTY SUE THE REPUBLICANS FOR FALSIFYING INFORMATAION....


POLLUTING THEINFORMATION STREAM...


clean up AMERICA, stop fraud in it's tracks.


saying Palin was against the Bridge to NoWhere and she stopped it...


no one stopped it, certainly not her...


that's called FRAUD, they're selling the REPUBLIC SCAMMMMMER product....


sue them for false advertising and fraud....


"tax and spend democrats," is also FRAUD


Regan and the bushes have taxed and spent the United States into a deficit each time...


only the Clinton years were deficit free...


using the phrase "tax and spend" democrats is deliberate


FRAUD....


sue them.


that'll get some HEADLINES.....


and as far as lipsticks on pigs, anyone that compares her mug to that of a pit bull isn't concerned about feminism...


after all she'd rather her daughter got pregnant that she learn about birth control and responsible sex...


I have to say Biden calling off the dawgs on Palins' daughter


smells of Kerrys' dive....


why is he giving the wolverines a competitive edge????


these fxxxers lie as easily as other people relieve themselves...


they don't need a break, they need JAILTIME....


give it to 'em, help AMERICA OUT of it's MONETARY and ECONOMIC CRISIS of nation breaking proportions...take the money back from the thieves....


sue them...


play fair???? you want them to play fair???


MAKE THEM...quit being whiners....sue them.


SUE THEM into submission, and take their lives away.


.


.


Posted by: howabout them apples freddy???? | September 10, 2008 8:57 PM | Report abuse

Okay all you wingnuts:

Even Bill O'Reilly defended Obama's metaphor tonight. He said the McCain ad was wanton misinterpretation of a common phrase and that the outrage from the McCain camp was ridiculous.

Posted by: arugula | September 10, 2008 8:57 PM | Report abuse

"More interesting bits of history about your fine friends the democrats.

"KKK was founded by five prominent democrats of their day.

"... Sorry if historic fact offends anyone."

---

You forgot the historic fact about all the white, racist, southern Democrats switching to the Republican party in the late 1960s.

Posted by: dave | September 10, 2008 8:57 PM | Report abuse

McCain learned from Bush and Rove in 2000 that the only way for a Republican to win a national election is by playing dirty, and it appears that he's taken it to heart. Any ounce of decency he may have once had has been totally shredded. The man is an embarrassment to this country. If any of his attack ads were even clever, one might at least give him credit for that, but they are as creative as a 2nd grader's playground taunts.

Posted by: eomcmars | September 10, 2008 8:55 PM | Report abuse

HYSTERIA_625
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
IT'S IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT A LIE....
And this is an out & our lie. Obama is Muslim. Read his first book where he states if it comes down to it he will stand with Muslims.
AND LET ME REMIND YOU, WE AMERICANS ARE INFIDELS AND MUST BE WIPED OFF THE FACE OF THE EARTH.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 8:54 PM | Report abuse

in case you haven't figured it out yet....


McCain and Palin are lying to sell a product....


out right lying....


it's AMERICA's chance to sue the REPUBLICANS and make back some money....


take advantage of this opportunity do it as a citizen....I don't care what party you support....

FRAUD IS FRAUD....or have the DEMOCRATIC PARTY SUE THE REPUBLICANS FOR FALSIFYING INFORMATAION....


POLLUTING THEINFORMATION STREAM...


clean up AMERICA, stop fraud in it's tracks.


saying Palin was against the Bridge to NoWhere and she stopped it...


no one stopped it, certainly not her...


that's called FRAUD, they're selling the REPUBLIC SCAMMMMMER product....


sue them for false advertising and fraud....


"tax and spend democrats," is also FRAUD


Regan and the bushes have taxed and spent the United States into a deficit each time...


only the Clinton years were deficit free...


using the phrase "tax and spend" democrats is deliberate


FRAUD....


sue them.


that'll get some HEADLINES.....


and as far as lipsticks on pigs, anyone that compares her mug to that of a pit bull isn't concerned about feminism...


after all she'd rather her daughter got pregnant that she learn about birth control and responsible sex...


I have to say Biden calling off the dawgs on Palins' daughter


smells of Kerrys' dive....


why is he giving the wolverines a competitive edge????


these fxxxers lie as easily as other people relieve themselves...


they don't need a break, they need JAILTIME....


give it to 'em, help AMERICA OUT of it's MONETARY and ECONOMIC CRISIS of nation breaking proportions...


play fair???? MAKE THEM or WIN and then play fair...


SUE THEM into submission, and take their lives away.


.


.


Posted by: just a short note..... | September 10, 2008 8:54 PM | Report abuse

"How about the Palin per diem for staying in her own home?"

Per diem is due if you are working away from your assigned work station. Her assigned workstation was 600 miles away. So taking per diem, as small as it is, is very typical.

Funny how you leftists left out the fact that she spent FOUR HUNDERED PERCENT LESS on her travel expenses compared to the previous two Governors in Alaska.

Now you complain about legitimate per diem.

Maybe those 40 leftist lawyers and obama lapdogs you dropped off in Alaska need to dig a bit deeper. Them reporting that she saved 400 percent more money for the taxpayers of Alaska just make them look silly.

Posted by: KMichaels | September 10, 2008 8:42 PM

+++++++++++++++

If I were you 5th grade teacher, KMichaels, I would have retained you!

Do you know you sound incredibly re-ttarded?

Palin is a silly 44-year-old grandmother to be, hardly presidential material, her claim for hockey mom status notwithstanding. This woman is a typical, ILL-educated, southern morron who believes in creationism, something even McCain doesn't believe in.

If McCain had selected, say, Hagel, Snowe, Collins, etc., I still won't vote for him but I would DEFINITELY RESPECT those choices, those people.... they are respected, educated, and accomplished.

Palin? So her claim to fame is a hockey mom?

Can you picture her next to highly trained and highly intelligent people like Putin and Hu?

I would have retained you in 5th grade for sure!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 8:53 PM | Report abuse

McCain to Palin: You look just like a hog.
Palin: What?!
McCain: Now let's you drop them pants!
Palin: Drop?!
McCain: Take 'em right off!

:-P

yepper, Deliverance all over again...

Posted by: the_Dude | September 10, 2008 8:52 PM | Report abuse

More interesting bits of history about your fine friends the democrats.

KKK was founded by five prominent democrats of their day.

KKK had, at it's peak, 15% of the available population as its members.

The vast majority of KKK members where white protestant democrats.

KKK was not remotely limited to rural areas. In fact the majority of its members were urban workers. Again, mostly democrat, mostly white, and mostly protestant.

KKK not only despised blacks but the also hated immigrants of all sorts, and especially were against Catholics.

KKK required of its members to swear a "separation of church and state" oath in order to weed out undesirables such as Catholic immigrants. They were not against protestant churches supporting their chosen candidates but they surely did not want the power of the Catholic church to promote opposing candidates.

The supreme court judge that stuck us with the modern concept of "separation of church and state" was a self-declared KKK member by the name of Hugo Black. He disowned the KKK due to political expediency.

Yes folks, this is your basic democrat in action for you. And little has changed.

One of KKKs mottos was that their real enemy was not blacks but in whites that insisted on treating blacks fairly. These whites were generally republicans, which the KKK generally opposed.

KKKs bold claim was that they could easily keep the blacks under control.

Democrats of today continue to boldly take for granted that blacks will do their bidding. Even after all the failures of Democrat leaders to actually promote change for the better for the black community blacks continue to vote for them 80-90 percent of the time.

Sorry if historic fact offends anyone.

Posted by: KMichaels | September 10, 2008 8:51 PM | Report abuse

I see there is a lot of ranting and raving. The bottom line is that "Obama" is loosing it. Everything he says, is muttled by unclear speech, with uh's and an's and more uh's. I honestly believe the pressure is too much for him. He might be a great speech giver from a sheet of paper, but "off the cuff", he's doing things in plain site of others that would leave me to believe that this is something a doctor should be involved in. He almost looks like he's having a break down. Even the mental attitude of trying to attack a Vice Presidential candidate with the flare of a school child would certainly alarm most. NO, we do not want this man to be president, he is already a basket case.

Posted by: EMTDawn | September 10, 2008 8:51 PM | Report abuse

"crazy band of savages"

WWRD? (What Would the Republicans Do?) RACISM RACISM!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 8:51 PM | Report abuse

ello there leaders of the free world and exporters of democracy - the comedy continues...yes we fellow inhabitants and allies on the planet again cannot beleive you guys and gals are actually the super power on the planet - anyway thanks it beats the rubbish on TV - And as I pointed out previously it is increasingly making comedy writers unemployed as they cant beat the reality that is the USA and it also is making this B grade cult classic a prophetic film... "IdiocracY"...outline below...

"Idiocracy is a 2006 American dark comedy directed by Mike Judge, and starring Luke Wilson and Maya Rudolph. The two main characters sign up for a military hibernation experiment that goes awry, and they awaken 500 years in the future. They discover that the world has devolved into a dystopia where marketing, commercialism, and cultural anti-intellectualism run rampant and dysgenic pressure has resulted in a uniformly stupid human society.

Despite its lack of a major theatrical release, the film has achieved something of a cult following because of its satire of the “dumbing down” of contemporary society and the breakdown of individual responsibility and consequences

A narrator explains that natural selection is indifferent to intelligence, so that in a society in which intelligence is systematically debased, stupid people easily out-breed the intelligent, creating, over the course of five centuries, an irremediably dysfunctional society. Demographic superiority favours those least likely to advance society.[1] Consequently, the children of the educated élites are drowned in a sea of sexually promiscuous, illiterate, alcoholic, proletarian peers."

Sounds feasible they way you guys are headed...


Posted by: Col in Paradise | September 10, 2008 8:49 PM | Report abuse

I was thinking of another way to put the lipstick on a pig earlier, and I thought "You could give an old car a paint job, but it's still an old car." Then, I realized this could be interpreted as an attack on McCain's age.

I am so sickened by the way the McCain campaign is acting. It's the same way the Republicans have run almost every campaign since 1968 (except maybe 1976). Put all their faults on Democrats (their small-town snobbery, relentless irrelevant personal attacks, etc.) in a campaign based on a simple premise: Distract, Distort, Destroy. That's what Republicans do. Every single election. Every four years.

Posted by: dave | September 10, 2008 8:49 PM | Report abuse

If she isn't a token, when is she going to defend herself, or graciously say ' Oh, I know Senator Obama wasn't referring to little ole me'?

And when is she going to answer questions on public library books, interference in the employment of her former brother in law, and a few other trivial points.

There are MUCH, MUCH more qualified Republican women. Token.

Hillary did her own press conferences, so does Obama, and so does McCain, no coaching needed.

When is Ms Ready really going to be ready?

She may be qualified to be gov of Alaska, 18 months into it, it seems that she is, aside from padding the expense accounts and getting personal enemies fired. No one who is not 100% partisan can deny a few reservations.

Posted by: NOW | September 10, 2008 8:49 PM | Report abuse

Chris:

I've enjoyed reading your stuff, but I've come to the conclusion that you are a moron. Why is this an issue when Lehman lost billions and Afghanistan is going to hell? All the McCain camp has to do is make a stupid irrelevant charge, slap a video on youtube and then this smear becomes a matter of national concern, truth to some and a beautiful campaign tactic? If the press' role just gives voice the inane chatter of the campaigns, why not leave the reporting to bloggers and youtube and Facebook. Who needs the Post at all? So I am going cold turkey on your piece, have fun being a lackey but it is not going to be at my expense.

Posted by: Mr Cee | September 10, 2008 8:48 PM | Report abuse

This pigs and lipstick business is tabloid news.

Today, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff testified that he's not convinced we're winning in Afghanistan (although he thinks we can). This is a major news item, but isn't getting any coverage, because of distractions like this non-controversy.

I'd like to hear any candidate -- but Sarah Palin in particular, since she's been hiding -- step up and dissect for us what the plan is for dealing with Afghanistan or any other issue of substance.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 8:48 PM | Report abuse

WAY TO FIRE UP THE DEM BASE WITH YOUR STUPID LIPSTICK PIG, FAKE OUTRAGE, MCCAIN!


YOU'RE DUMBER THAN A BAG OF ROCKS, YOU OLD FOSSIL!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEtZlR3zp4
.

Posted by: dano | September 10, 2008 8:48 PM | Report abuse

The only thing to admire is the good deeds and efforts of each candidate and their degree of integrity. On this score, it is no contest. The GOP has been and always will be the Party of Dirty Tricks, so we should be not suprised on the purposive distortion in the "lipstick affair". Palin continued lies on her use of earmarks is just another example of the standards of the National Republican Party who will do anything to get elected. Double talk and hypocrisy are the natural consequences of such low standards.

None of this changes the fact that the GOP has held the WH for 28 of the last 40 years and has active control of congress for much of the period and they are the cause for the decline of this country and the mess we are in.

What this country needs is real change, not the cynical promises from a pair of airheads called McPalin.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 8:47 PM | Report abuse

It's interesting that most McCain voters are voting based on "personal" stuff, not the issues.

That's Bush's base alright -- and look what it's gotten us: An economy on a downward spiral, endless wars, and political appointees who are given license to engage in wanton illegal behavior.

John McCain's silence and inaction on these issues when he had the chance to do something speaks volumes about his character.

His actions on the campaign trail only highlight what he has become: A man who has lost his moral sense, who lies as a matter of habit, and who has abandoned the Navy Code of Ethics. His new creed is John McCain first, country last.

Posted by: JP2 | September 10, 2008 8:44 PM | Report abuse

Real Brother here.

Jwald1, I understand that my argument is so strong, so well thought out, so Superior that many Racists, White Supremacists and Black man hating lesbians will conclude that I must be White but I'll offer how many Whites have presented the argument that this campaign will be won on ISSUES and Barack Obama is making a far better case on ISSUES then are the Racists, White Supremacists and Black man hating lesbians who are talking about Pigs and Flag pins and suggesting his name rhymes with Osama?

I'm serious, what OTHER White person has exposed how STUPID the White Racists and Supremacists(Black man hating lesbians) arguments are?

And to the Black man hating lesbian who suggested I'm a "Racist Moron" for exposing the Racists, White Supremacists and Black man hating lesbians who oppose Obama she can put lipstick on a pig...you know the rest.

TKCAL

Posted by: Realbrother | September 10, 2008 8:44 PM | Report abuse

What Obama should have said is, you cannot turn a sow's ear into a silk purse, which is exactly what the McCain/Swifters are attempting to do.
Obama needs to take the gloves off in this race against a moose shooting, double-talking, power hungry grandmother -- and her sidekick who went out and got himself a pit bull with lipstick.
Obama needs to state what a community organizer does, i.e.:
- Help keep teenage pregnancy rates low when parents are too tied up with their own egos to talk with their kids.
- Help victims of domestic violence when the police cannot or will not help. (Not everyone can have a fairy governor for a sister.)
- Help wounded veterans of wars that were fought for the wrong reasons but by men and women who took up arms to defend this country, only to be sent without the right body armour to a country that had not attacked us, giving those who did attack us seven years to foster anti-Americanism around the world.
- Work in literacy programs so that those who have not learned in the failing schools, despite No Child Left Behind "rules" can read the facts from both sides of the debate and then make up their own minds on the election as opposed to voting for the best bumper sticker lines read off teleprompters.
- Organize PTA members in city school districts with more population than many small towns and help them form entities that can address issues larger than building an indoor hockey rink with earmarked funds from the federal government.
- Community organizers can help stop the banning of books in their town and school libraries, by helping people learn how to discern on their own what is and is not "good" literature, rather than giving that right over to government, which has no business in banning books.
- Help get laws enforced in their communities whether those are laws on wildlife preservation, or appropriate land use that will save what is beautiful about the world the people live in, for the people's children and grandchildren.
- Demand real reform in government at all levels, not have an energy policy that allows those who should be regulating the oil and gas industries literally in bed with the oil and gas industry representatives!

Take the gloves off Barack. These liars deserve no less than a bare knuckle fight!

Posted by: ProVerbs | September 10, 2008 8:44 PM | Report abuse

I have to agree with KMichaels: Obama supporters need to avoid these traps being set by the McCain-Palin campaign. Every time you speak on behalf of Obama, some people will believe you are channeling Obama!

So, even though Obama has been gracious about Palin's family and is not sexist, every time you say something negative about her family or criticize her for being a woman, people somehow get the impression that this sort of garbage is coming from Obama. Quit being so stupid and falling for the McCain-Palin tricks, my fellow Obama supporters! She is a hard-right Republican. She can be defeated without resorting to idiotic, demeaning, irrelevant arguments about gender! Wise up!

Posted by: dave | September 10, 2008 8:43 PM | Report abuse

I am really starting to wonder about Obama. Can the guy shut up already?

Preview from The Letterman show has him saying 'McCain is the Pig, and Palin is the Lipstick.'

Another wasted day as the media will feed of this all day and keep it alive.

Can he Go a day without saying something stupid?

Posted by: Obama2012 | September 10, 2008 8:42 PM | Report abuse

I know that there is no truth to McCain's claim, but the Palin *does* remind me of Miss Piggy.

Posted by: the_Dude | September 10, 2008 8:17 PM
+++++++++++++++


Dude,

you are so right!

these red necks should have been TOLD NEVER to use colorful metaphors, since they think only they are capable.

Harvard educated people, too (who go there on merits, not through legacy like georgie boy prez), could use them --- they should'f been told!

LOL

Miss Piggy, indeed!

theDuke and JMichael are so funny --- and, frankly, re-tard-ed --- they just don't know it.

LOL

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 8:42 PM | Report abuse

To compare Palin-the-animal-killer to a pig is to slander pigs.

Posted by: Elizabeth | September 10, 2008 8:42 PM | Report abuse

"How about the Palin per diem for staying in her own home?"

Per diem is due if you are working away from your assigned work station. Her assigned workstation was 600 miles away. So taking per diem, as small as it is, is very typical.

Funny how you leftists left out the fact that she spent FOUR HUNDERED PERCENT LESS on her travel expenses compared to the previous two Governors in Alaska.

Now you complain about legitimate per diem.

Maybe those 40 leftist lawyers and obama lapdogs you dropped off in Alaska need to dig a bit deeper. Them reporting that she saved 400 percent more money for the taxpayers of Alaska just make them look silly.

Posted by: KMichaels | September 10, 2008 8:42 PM | Report abuse

Obama should just say ' if the shoe fits...' and move on.

Oh, wait, is that a thinly veiled sexist comment too? Does shoes fitting point to women?

I don't know, I don't know, who can tell me?

Posted by: Shoes - need more | September 10, 2008 8:42 PM | Report abuse

Congratulations Chris. You just wrote an article admiring the ability of a campaign to spin outright lies into votes. Maybe "politics of perception" sounds all academic and acceptable, but I think it's time to admit you are so deep into the game you've lost your perspective.

Posted by: Deficits Dont Matter | September 10, 2008 8:41 PM | Report abuse

I just finished a large book re: A. Lincoln's papers and writings. Findings: Democrats of that day were referred to as 'LOCOS'(apt then and now).

Also, the mean-spirited democratic style of lies, deception and deceit has long been a tradition of democrats ... since before the Civil War.

After reading factual accounts, I am distressed as to how blacks could EVER vote for a democrat, since the locos advocated NATIONALIZING SLAVERY.

As to Obama calling Palin a LIPSTICKED PIG ... a McCain supporter called Michelle Obama Obama's "APE WIFE" ... BOTH comments are out of line and I would hope Americans can move beyond those vile characterizations.

Lastly, this election is shaping up more and more as a battle between socialism and capitalism ... THINK AMERICANS ... THINK BEFORE YOU VOTE ON SKIN COLOR OR THE EXISTENCE or ABSENCE OF A SCROTUM!

Senator Joe Liberman has it right ... vote what is best for your country.

Posted by: Rod Miller | September 10, 2008 8:41 PM | Report abuse

Unpatriotic John McCain

John McCain made most unpatriotic decisions recently. He made Palin his VP who he knows is not ready to take the job ... he is a old man. He put the whole country into trouble just for getting elected. He changed every stance since he got nominated in the republican party. Can you believe he can lead the country. John and Palin are ready to sell this country on ebay. How can you doubt his unpatriotic credentials for just the greed of becoming a president. Save yourself and get awake ... still there is some time left. Even you republicans think for a moment before committing to what you are doing ....Does party comes first or the nation .... you have a choice to make. John made his choice to be friends with lobbyists and persons whom he thinks can get him elected.

Posted by: John | September 10, 2008 8:39 PM | Report abuse

Billw--

you savin' #13 for manana?

Posted by: dano | September 10, 2008 8:38 PM | Report abuse

Unpatriotic John McCain

John McCain made most unpatriotic decisions recently. He made Palin his VP who he knows is not ready to take the job ... he is a old man. He put the whole country into trouble just for getting elected. He changed every stance since he got nominated in the republican party. Can you believe he can lead the country. John and Palin are ready to sell this country on ebay. How can you doubt his unpatriotic credentials for just the greed of becoming a president. Save yourself and get awake ... still there is some time left. Even you republicans think for a moment before committing to what you are doing ....Does party comes first or the nation .... you have a choice to make. John made his choice to be friends with lobbyists and persons whom he thinks can get him elected.

Posted by: John | September 10, 2008 8:38 PM | Report abuse

So, let's get this straight, the candidate who advocates for equal pay for women is the sexist, and the one who doesn't is offended at "sexism?" WOW

Posted by: dave | September 10, 2008 8:37 PM | Report abuse

"Can anyone say token female?

Here little missy, you sit over there on that shelf and look purdy. We big macho men will take care of all this messy political stuff, like telling people how sexist they are being.

Posted by: NOW | September 10, 2008 8:31 PM"

Wow, will idiot sexist comments coming from you idiot Obama lovers ever cease?

First call her a Pig, make up stories about her, then call her token.

I suppose the fact that she is the youngest Governor ever in the state of Alaska means she is just a token?

I suppose that her having 85% approval in Alaska must mean she is just a token.

Good God, Obama lovers, get a life.

Posted by: KMichaels | September 10, 2008 8:37 PM | Report abuse

How about the Palin per diem for staying in her own home?

It seems like elected officials today are very confused - they think they got elected to a country club.

Public service - what is that?

Posted by: Bums - Out! | September 10, 2008 8:37 PM | Report abuse

I used to kind of respect John McCain. But now it's becoming clearer and clearer that he's just a desperate liar. Even more reason to work to get Obama elected.

Posted by: markinsa | September 10, 2008 8:36 PM | Report abuse

Considering the rest of the rant was lifted from a Tom Toles cartoon in your paper on the 5th, maybe the WaPo should start looking into other acts of plagiarism by Senator Obama.

Posted by: Crazy Politico | September 10, 2008 8:36 PM | Report abuse

anonymous said:
"Please explain to me how keeping the same policies in place is "change". "

Obama would need to CHANGE drawers if McCain took him up in a fighter plane.
Hah hah ha ha
Posted by: Jack The Ripper | September 10, 2008 1:26 PM

Given that Senator McCain lost 5 air planes he was flying I would be scared to, he's an Ace even if he never shot down one enemy plane he took out 5 navy planes on his own.........

Posted by: mikey30919 | September 10, 2008 8:36 PM | Report abuse

The crowd knew what Obama meant. He is a slimeball.

Posted by: Karen | September 10, 2008 8:35 PM | Report abuse

Unpatriotic John McCain

John McCain made most unpatriotic decisions recently. He made Palin his VP who he knows is not ready to take the job ... he is a old man. He put the whole country into trouble just for getting elected. He changed every stance since he got nominated in the republican party. Can you believe he can lead the country. John and Palin are ready to sell this country on ebay. How can you doubt his unpatriotic credentials for just the greed of becoming a president. Save yourself and get awake ... still there is some time left. Even you republicans think for a moment before committing to what you are doing ....Does party comes first or the nation .... you have a choice to make. John made his choice to be friends with lobbyists and persons whom he thinks can get him elected.

Posted by: John | September 10, 2008 8:34 PM | Report abuse

Truthinreporting????????????????????

As in grammer OR the correct spelling:

GRAMMAR

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 8:33 PM | Report abuse

Enough is enough! Palin is a prop (soon to be over-used).


Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 8:33 PM | Report abuse

Anyone with any real intellectual honesty knows by now that Obama talks down to women and have very little esteem for them.

It is also obvious that the animal lipstick metaphor was used ever-so-recently by Sarah Palin.

So Obama either had a sudden case of amnesia or he intentionally, in a very thinly veiled attempt, called her a pig and a stinky fish.

And yes, we know that McCain used the same saying years ago. However, unless he did it days after Hillary called herself a pittbull with lipstick then the context is totally different.

Obama cant have that bad of a memory. But Obama has been known to belittle women. So that part is very consistent.

Dont be suckered by Obama's calculated risk. He tried a vieled slapdown of Palin and he lost. He showed that he has no character and no respect.

Libs, lap-dog all you want. Try to whitewash it all you want. It just wont work this time.

Posted by: KMichaels | September 10, 2008 8:32 PM | Report abuse

Again, let's NOT take our eyes from the facts: Obama is NOT experienced to lead this country as president. The office of the president and the Commander-in-Chief of the US Armed Forces should be given to the candidate who is more experienced, knowledgeable, and who has also sacrificed more in his life for his great country. Indeed the fair choice and the most competent candidate for the office of the US president is John McCain, and I pray that he will be blessed to win big on Nov 4 during the elections.

Posted by: Jimmy | September 10, 2008 8:31 PM | Report abuse

Can anyone say token female?

Here little missy, you sit over there on that shelf and look purdy. We big macho men will take care of all this messy political stuff, like telling people how sexist they are being.

Posted by: NOW | September 10, 2008 8:31 PM | Report abuse

Oink, oink!

Really, did the majority of you people getting your panties in a bunches listened or read both Obama's speech and McCain's speech when they both used the lipstick on a pig metaphor? If you did, how could you turn it into a one sided gender fight? I'm sure the independent candidates are having a field day over this ruckus.

Educate your mind-do some research instead of letting the general media feed you soundbytes.

Posted by: Too Wired | September 10, 2008 8:27 PM | Report abuse

After reading this important story I can only conclude that Sarah Piggy Palin is, in fact, a maverick pig. As in swine. And to that little piggy I say thanks but no thanks. Wee, weee, wee all the way home.

Posted by: branfo4 | September 10, 2008 8:26 PM | Report abuse

Why do people feel it necessary to call out Barack Obama's middle name everytime they feel like smearing him in the blogs? Pointing out he has a Muslim background? Why? What difference does this make? I haven't seen a picture yet of him shaking hands with a terrorist - but b/c his middle name is Hussein, this makes him a terrorist? Just like Palin claimed ALL "hockey moms" are PITBULLS with lipstick?
Where does this controversy make sense to anyone but the uneducated? If Obama wanted to REALLY draw a sexist picture of Palin and offend the hell out of everyone, her could've said "lipstick on a pitbull" or something more overt.
This is just the nervous Republicans making a mountain out of absolutely nothing

Posted by: hysteria_625 | September 10, 2008 8:25 PM | Report abuse

Sounds like you have it pretty much figured out, Chris. I'd say you're right; and, that Obama is unlikely to win at this point. I mean, read your own analysis. "For McCain to win, he must make this a personality-driven contest -- presenting the choice between a war hero who has sacrificed untold amounts for his country and an untested senator about whom the American public still has questions."

I'll vote for the War Hero, thank you very much.

Posted by: Larrywp | September 10, 2008 8:25 PM | Report abuse

"Let's put that shoe on the other foot and see how it fits!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMPYkNQlJMM

Posted by: JohnD | September 10, 2008 8:18 PM"

So, John, is this supposed to be the same thing? Obviously it is not just what words or mouthed but what events lead up to them.

If McCain said "I would like to kill that man." in reference to Adolph Hitler and Obama said "I would like to kill that man." in reference to John McCain then it means absolutly nothing that they both used the exact same sentence.

I know you libs like to lap-dog for Obama and coverup his messes but there is one obvious difference here and now. And that is that Sarah Palin VERY VERY RECENTLY said what she said.

So unless you can show a video of Hillary calling herself a pittbull in lipstick just a few days previous to McCains comments then the context is totally different.

Man, you DNC operatives sure can repeat the same old excuses without any real thought behind them.

Posted by: KMichaels | September 10, 2008 8:24 PM | Report abuse

It is unconscionable that the press is allowing the McCain to get away with this abandonment of any vestige of running a honest and dignified campaign.

For a politician that supposedly honors truth and nonor above all this is his final descent into acompletly craven and dishonorable man.

Posted by: toldyouso | September 10, 2008 8:24 PM | Report abuse

opps, I meant "clever". Sorry.

Posted by: David in Folsom, Ca | September 10, 2008 8:21 PM | Report abuse

that odor isn't coming from a pig with lipstick on it, it is from the eau de rove in the mccain/palin camp.

Posted by: straightrecord.com | September 10, 2008 8:21 PM | Report abuse

My gosh, this is the Washington Post reader community??? This is as thoughtful and cleaver as you can be?? I expected better. A lot of you folks are really stupid and/or mean, huh?

Posted by: David in Folsom, Ca | September 10, 2008 8:20 PM | Report abuse

WE MUST REALIZE THAT OLD-SCHOOL "POLITICIANS WANT IT THAT WAY (to keep us dumb and gullible, so they can swing us to any side when they want, just by airing a few "SWIFT-boat" ads).

WAKE UP PEOPLE!

Posted by: Truth in Reporting? | September 10, 2008 8:11 PM"

Nice lap-dogging but you left out some critical information in your blowhard response. Obviously we have all heard the saying before and yes, McCain even used it. But, dimwits, what one thing is different today? That Sarah Palin used an animal lipstick analogy in her recent speech. DUH!!! So sure, it is an old saying, but obviously there is a new and fresh addition. Again, what Sarah Palin VERY VERY RECENTLY said. So, either Obama cant remember past the last few days or he did remember and did indeed intend to call Sarah Palin a pig and a stinky fish.

So dem blowhards, playback the DNC excuses and cover ups till hell freezes over. It wont change the fact that Obama did not get away with his ever-so-thinly veiled comments. He took a chance and it bit him hard in his self-promoting butt.

Posted by: KMichaels | September 10, 2008 8:18 PM | Report abuse

Let's put that shoe on the other foot and see how it fits!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMPYkNQlJMM

Posted by: JohnD | September 10, 2008 8:18 PM | Report abuse

I know that there is no truth to McCain's claim, but the Palin *does* remind me of Miss Piggy.

Posted by: the_Dude | September 10, 2008 8:17 PM | Report abuse

jwald1... get the screen name right and stop the disgraceful name calling...
Mohammad translated the bible into arabic so the arabs could read it..... haha However he added far to much to his book and no God don't reward one for how many infidels killed by supplying virgins to the devils..They go the other direction. Look it up when the quran was written. And when the translation occurred to English... Glad you read it but u discredit nothing. You certainly do show the killer attack with hatred of Obama's muslim faith... You know the "Muslim Terrorists". Insults and emply promises with words... That's Obamaboy!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 8:16 PM | Report abuse

Obama lap-dog wrote: "Oh, I laugh my butt off when the big white man can say THE SAME THING --- in a political season --- and they are interpreted as to mean some thing good, because "they are friends"; but when the brother says it, during the political season, the phrase is meant to denigrate the opponent?"

So, you are saying that there is no difference in the immediate circumstances? I guess Hillary called herself, just a few days earlier, a pittbull with lipstick? If not, duh, the circustances are totally different.

Obama obviously had in mind Sarah's recent comment. So obviously, liberal lap-dogs, he had a different intention in mind.

Game played, sexist Obama EXPOSED again.

Posted by: KMichaels | September 10, 2008 8:06 PM

+++++++++++++

GOP "logic":

McCain: you can put lipstick on a pig and it is still a pig.

"It meant something good, since McCain and Hillary are good friends. She's only critiquing her policies."

Obama: you can put lipstick on a pig and it it is still a pig.

"It is totally inappropriate, since it is denigrating the great governor from Alaska, to call her a pig!"

LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

You really DID fail 5th grade, did you? LOL

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 8:14 PM | Report abuse

"Spoken like a true Obama loving racist moron."

Ah, another rightwing tactic: Take your moral shortcomings and claim that they are actually characteristics of your opponent.

Posted by: castanea | September 10, 2008 8:14 PM | Report abuse

Life is a Miasma of Pain, Confusion, and Loneliness.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 8:13 PM | Report abuse

There a 5 people on this board contributing the same thing over and over again.
They are (in no particular order)

1. The partisan calling Obama a sexist
2. The poet behind Barack all the way
3. The prophet telling the truth about life's meaninglessness
4. The pundit thinking too hard about the issues and answering Cillizza's cultish call for responsible discourse.
5. And me, I'm Donnie Jeffcoat, former host of Nickelodeon's WILD AND CRAZY KIDS!

Posted by: donnie jeffcoat | September 10, 2008 8:12 PM | Report abuse

I wonder, would calling Obama the "Chimp President" be the same as calling Bush the "Chimp President"?

Posted by: cons_piracy_08 | September 10, 2008 8:12 PM | Report abuse

The more dems yell that this is a non-issue the more obvious it is that this issue is huge. And of course for good reason. Obama has already been on thin ice for his past sexist remarks and actions. Also obvious is that Obama needs the female vote. Also obvious is that he tried his slapdown on Palin hoping to rev up his slumping numbers and it backfired.

Well, such is life. A smooth saleman will always get caught in his lies sooner or later. He tried to sell you snake oil, and for awhile he had a few of the more stupid townsfolk in a trance. But the reality of his empty suit and his sexist beliefs became exposed for what they were.

Posted by: KMichaels | September 10, 2008 8:11 PM | Report abuse

Barack Hussien Obama is a worthless socialist pig, with our withour lipstick.

Posted by: dossier | September 10, 2008 8:10 PM | Report abuse

Anonymous wrote:

"Life is a Miasma of Pain, Confusion, and Loneliness. "

I totally agree! Screw this brand of political discourse! There's no meaning of this, or even of life! I'm going skinny dipping!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 8:09 PM | Report abuse

Did Palin even "react?" Or is she still in her undisclosed location and we all really just have no idea because we are a bunch of sorry commoners?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 8:07 PM | Report abuse

Obama lap-dog wrote: "Oh, I laugh my butt off when the big white man can say THE SAME THING --- in a political season --- and they are interpreted as to mean some thing good, because "they are friends"; but when the brother says it, during the political season, the phrase is meant to denigrate the opponent?"

So, you are saying that there is no difference in the immediate circumstances? I guess Hillary called herself, just a few days earlier, a pittbull with lipstick? If not, duh, the circustances are totally different.

Obama obviously had in mind Sarah's recent comment. So obviously, liberal lap-dogs, he had a different intention in mind.

Game played, sexist Obama EXPOSED again.

Posted by: KMichaels | September 10, 2008 8:06 PM | Report abuse

PEOPLE PLEASE READ THIS COMMENT AND STOP AND THINK:

Its okay! Its Okay! I understand!

Life is a Miasma of Pain, Confusion, and Loneliness.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 8:05 PM | Report abuse

Obama is not the genius we are told he is. The fact that he speaks well is beside the point. I've known fantastic salesmen and realtors over the years who sound INCREDIBLE until you probe their thoughts, and ultimately you walk away knowing that they might just be idiots.

What Obama said, in the context of everything that is going on regarding Palin, was DUMB, DUMB, DUMB. Not apologizing was even worse, and arrogant as well.

Obama probably didn't mean to say what it sounds like he said. The real problem is that Obama, for all his vaunted intelligence, might just be an idiot.

Posted by: dyinglikeflies | September 10, 2008 8:05 PM | Report abuse

Bottom lines:

Obama could have made the issue go away with an apology to Palin, he didn't.

Obama could have chosen Hillary for his Vice President running mate, he didn't.

Obama said he was going to lead an upright campaign as an agent of change, he isn't.

In matters of judgement, views on women, and arrogance... Obama continues to demonstrate he isn't ready to lead. He has less effective leadership experience than Palin and it shows.

As Vice President, Palin will represent more change and inspire more women and young women than any American leader has ever done.

That is the bottom line.

Obama, you don't respect women and you lost my vote.

Posted by: I agree | September 10, 2008 8:05 PM | Report abuse

Obama complaining about Palin's reaction to his remarks is like the pot calling the kettle Black.

After the way Obama attacked the Clintons over them refering to Obama's self proclaimed record on the Iraq war as a fairy, calling it a racial slur, Obama surely knows that words are not merely words.

Posted by: rpatoh | September 10, 2008 8:04 PM | Report abuse

this is becoming absolutely nuts. There are some people here that are obviously on the edge and it will come to bloodshed if it continues. Everyone here has access to a computer which tells me that we all have roofs over our heads. Pick up some books and read them. Read about what people have gone thru and put up with in other times. buckup-it's just an election. There will be plenty more when we're all pushing up daisies.

Posted by: Kathy | September 10, 2008 8:03 PM | Report abuse

Come on, why are you wasting your time and ours on this? You know quite well this is crap from the Mc Cain campaign and the shreiking harpies on the right- yet you are obliged to cover this? What about the latest news about UFO sightings and conspiricy theories?

They do this because the media is as predictable as trained seals. Then people like yourself do thumb-sucking analysis as to what it all means.

This is a 'non-issue' campaign: their own advisors tell you this. It's about clogging the tubes with nonsense so no real information gets out. Otherwise, they have nothing.

Posted by: ronin | September 10, 2008 8:03 PM | Report abuse

Wow, can you believe it? A nation of hicks and racists, for the sake of political convenience, totally forgets about the "pig with lipstick" expression once frequently used by hicks and racists of yesteryear.

Get a life, America.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 8:02 PM | Report abuse

Well Piggy Sarah Palin sure did get a lot of pork for her state! What a piece of trash she's turning out to be. Lying, stealing taxpayers' money and total ignorance on the issues is what Republicans admire most of all.

Good luck with that! Oink Oink!

Posted by: dAVE | September 10, 2008 8:02 PM | Report abuse

The comment was made earlier in the year that if Hillary gave O'Bama one of her balls they'd both have a pair. I guess Hillary must still have more than her fair shair since O'Bama still has fewer than his rightful allotment. Obama is nothing more than a fussy prig who continually has his panty hose tied in knots when things aren't going his way. And things are going to get worse before they get better. Those of hoping planning on voting for O'Bama should realize the inane postings from the far left in support of O'Bama will be among the select few in charge of the country if this dimwit cipher gets elected. I'm betting he won't. He'll go down in history as the successor to George McGovern.

Posted by: foxborough1 | September 10, 2008 8:02 PM | Report abuse

"McCain's "lipstick on a pig" quote in reference to Hillary Clinton's health plan.

You should embed that in this column.

Posted by: David Zweig | September 10, 2008 7:49 PM"

Ahem, hey David, are you saying that just a few days earlier Hillary referred to herself as a pittbull with lipstick? If not David, then in no way and in no wise is the situation the same. Obviously you ahve to take into account current events, and what Palin said VERY VERY RECENTLY.

Yes, I know how easy it is for you guys to lap-dog for Obama and repeat the official DNC responses, but you really cant be so stupid to think that the two cases are even remotely the same.

And surely you dont honestly think that Obama simply forgot that Sarah Palin used the lipstick analogy.

Please, give it a break.

Obama blew it and good riddance to a self-serving empty suit sexist non-presidential idiot.

Posted by: KMichaels | September 10, 2008 8:01 PM | Report abuse

Obama was either stupid to have used the term, or arrogant enough to think he could get away with it by saying he didn't mean it. McCain used the same phrase, but he's friends with Hillary and was clearly talking about her piggish healthcare plan.


Posted by: theduke | September 10, 2008 7:49 PM

+++++++++++++++

Oh, I laugh my butt off when the big white man can say THE SAME THING --- in a political season --- and they are interpreted as to mean some thing good, because "they are friends"; but when the brother says it, during the political season, the phrase is meant to denigrate the opponent?

LOL

I mean, do YOU know how idioticc you sound there?

LOLLLLLLLLLLL

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 8:00 PM | Report abuse

The McCain camp? They are such liars and deceivers that they went as far as categorizing their own running mate as a pig. In turn, they have had the nerve to try to make people believe that Obama said it. The truth is, as repeated by Obama, McCain's failed policies are the pig and Palin is the lipstick. Let's not get it twisted. Unfortunately for the McCain side, in today's economy where information is free flowing, most average Americans know that McCain is trying to be deceptive. Americans are no fool, though. Not only Palin has as little experience as Obama, she is also under investigation for corruption. Most people had never heard of her before all of this. Moreover, what kind of true patriot would want to separate a single state from the rest of the federation? The list goes on and on. At 72 years of age, I am afraid that McCain has played his last card: the gender one.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 7:59 PM | Report abuse

Barack is correct, he knows best about
a pig with a lipstick, he might have one at
home like some of us.

Posted by: anonymous | September 10, 2008 7:59 PM | Report abuse

Real Brother,
I suspect you are some white,biggoted racest. Only someone who would want to hurt Obama's campaign would be spewing your your vile hatred.

Posted by: jwald1 | September 10, 2008 7:59 PM | Report abuse

in case you haven't figured it out yet....


McCain and Palin are lying to sell a product....


out right lying....


it's AMERICA's chance to sue the REPUBLICANS and make back some money....


take advantage of this opportunity do it as a citizen....I don't care what party you support....

FRAUD IS FRAUD....or have the DEMOCRATIC PARTY SUE THE REPUBLICANS FOR FALSIFYING INFORMATAION....


POLLUTING THEINFORMATION STREAM...


clean up AMERICA, stop fraud in it's tracks.


saying Palin was against the Bridge to NoWhere and she stopped it...


no one stopped it, certainly not her...


that's called FRAUD, they're selling the REPUBLIC SCAMMMMMER product....


sue them for false advertising and fraud....


"tax and spend democrats," is also FRAUD


Regan and the bushes have taxed and spent the United States into a deficit each time...


only the Clinton years were deficit free...


using the phrase "tax and spend" democrats is deliberate


FRAUD....


sue them.


that'll get some HEADLINES.....


and as far as lipsticks on pigs, anyone that compares her mug to that of a pit bull isn't concerned about feminism...


after all she'd rather her daughter got pregnant that she learn about birth control and responsible sex...


I have to say Biden calling off the dawgs on Palins' daughter


smells of Kerrys' dive....


why is he giving the wolverines a competitive edge????


these fxxxers lie as easily as other people relieve themselves...


they don't need a break, they need JAILTIME....


give it to 'em, help AMERICA OUT of it's MONETARY and ECONOMIC CRISIS of nation breaking proportions...


play fair???? MAKE THEM or WIN and then play fair...


SUE THEM into submission, and take their lives away.


.


.


Posted by: just a short note..... | September 10, 2008 7:58 PM | Report abuse

The problem with the "Lipstick on a Pig" cliche line is it would have occurred to anyone as soon as Palin made the joke in her speech, but using it you could see the backlash possibilities coming down the street.

McCain went to the land of Paul Bunyan and tall tales to find a VP... with the Bridge to Nowhere, the Jet on Ebay, Firing the Chef and John McCain's flip-flops on his positions, its time to say "Thanks, but no thanks" to tall tales from McCain/Palin.

You can dress a bulldog in a sailor suit, but that doesn't make it an admiral.

Posted by: Michael LA | September 10, 2008 7:57 PM | Report abuse

The McCain camp? They are such liars and deceivers that they went as far as categorizing their own running mate as a pig. In turn, they have had the nerve to try to make people believe that Obama said it. The truth is, as repeated by Obama, McCain's failed policies are the pig and Palin is the lipstick. Let's not get it twisted. Unfortunately for the McCain side, in today's economy where information is free flowing, most average Americans know that McCain is trying to be deceptive. Americans are no fool, though. Not only Palin has as little experience as Obama, she is also under investigation for corruption. Most people had never heard of her before all of this. Moreover, what kind of true patriot would want to separate a single from the rest of the federation? The list goes on and on. At 72 years of age, I am afraid that McCain has played his last card: the gender one.

Posted by: darby | September 10, 2008 7:57 PM | Report abuse

OMG Kathy, you are so stupid. Watch a movie.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 7:57 PM | Report abuse

Chris Cillizza:

You too, must wonder if Life is a Miasma of Pain, Confusion, and Loneliness. Well, it is. It's okay now. You might as well retire before the election. The American people have no chance of making an educated decision anyway, so just leave it to the Fates.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 7:55 PM | Report abuse

"Real Brother here.

Some of the White Supremacists and Racists have suggested that I and others "work" for Obama.While I don't,if elected I would proudly serve. In reality I realize that the opposition to Barack Obama is based on the fact that Racists, White Supremacists and Black man hating lesbians don't want a qualified Black man in office. Its wrong and I'm happy to expose that on these Boards."

Spoken like a true Obama loving racist moron.

Posted by: KMichaels | September 10, 2008 7:54 PM | Report abuse

Whoever wakes up in the morning saying "I Think I'll Force Obama To Apologize About Something Totally Random So My Candidate Doesn't Have To Talk About The Real Issues Plaguing This Country, You See, That Is Why We Picked A Female Running Mate, So We Could Pin Any Attack on McCain as Sexist".

Yes you?

You 're no better than me. Were both losers. We both wake up truly knowing how there is no point to any of this? Not the campaign, oh no. Just this. You see. You're just trying to fill the void that you'll never fill. Even if McCain wins, its just another job down the line, waiting to drain your soul until you resort to painkiller addiction. After that, you come home to see your kid high on coke with a girl half his age, clearly without virginity. You cry a little, telling them they will be all right, when of course, they won't be. As John McCain would say in his sleep: My friends, there is no point to any of this. We are all just power hungry psychos totally disconnected for what passes as a "nation" in the 21st Century.

Vote for Obama:
Because Life is a Miasma of Pain, Confusion, and Loneliness.

Posted by: this felt good to write out loud | September 10, 2008 7:53 PM | Report abuse

wh o someever . pretends that Palin is "a woman"


is looking for position....to sell some,


SNAKE OIL.


If she were responsible "as a woman" her daughter wouldn't have gotten pregnant...


I mean really, how hard is it to teach your children to have responsible sex????


and what's the "age of consent" in Alaska????


will her boyfriend have t o register as a sexual offendor now????


yeah that Pal'in is a real pal to women....


she's a greedy little republica ntwat...


she's a man in womens clothing pretending to support women,


she's tough? how about greedy....and willing to do whatever it takes to


get some.


She's not in it for women or AMERICA, she's in it for


duh money.....off shore drilling????


you can drill her daughter as long as you pay her for it....


.


.

anyone can see that...


long as you willin to pay,


Palin willing to "let you do it"


responsible parenting????


!not


.

too obviously....

Posted by: aggressive thinking... | September 10, 2008 7:53 PM | Report abuse

"But, as we also noted, it really didn't matter what Clinton intended to do."

Shorter (well, not really) Chris Cillizza:

''That's not the way the world really works anymore. 'We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality -- judiciously, as you will -- we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors . . . and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.''

Posted by: Realist | September 10, 2008 7:53 PM | Report abuse

It's likely that Obama didn't mean it as a personal attack on Palin. He's a very intelligent and articulate man and he would know that saying this would bring negative publicity just as if Palin made a comment to Obama along the lines of monkey in a suit.The question is whether the media are doing the ethical and right thing by fanning the flames on what is obviously an innocent coincidence.

Posted by: down_under | September 10, 2008 7:52 PM | Report abuse

Bottom lines:

Obama could have made the issue go away with an apology to Palin, he didn't.

Obama could have chosen Hillary for his Vice President running mate, he didn't.

Obama said he was going to lead an upright campaign as an agent of change, he isn't.

In matters of judgement, views on women, and arrogance... Obama continues to demonstrate he isn't ready to lead. He has less effective leadership experience than Palin and it shows.

As Vice President, Palin will represent more change and inspire more women and young women than any American leader has ever done.

That is the bottom line.

Obama, you don't respect women and you lost my vote.

Posted by: Changed My Mind | September 10, 2008 7:50 PM | Report abuse

wh o someever . pretends that Palin is "a woman"


is looking for position....to sell some,


SNAKE OIL.


If she were responsible "as a woman" her daughter wouldn't have gotten pregnant...


I mean really, how hard is it to teach your children to have responsible sex????

and what's the "age of consent" in Alaska????


will her boyfriend have t o register as a sexual offendor now????

yeah that Pal'in is a real pal to women....


she's a greedy little republica ntwat...


she's a man in womens clothing pretending to support women,


she's tough? how about greedy....and willing to do whatever it takes to


get some.


She's not in it for women or AMERICA, she's in it for


duh money.....off shore drilling????


you can drill her daughter as long as you pay her for it....


.


.

anyone can see that...


long as you willin to pay,


Palin willing to "let you do it"


responsible parenting????


!not


.

too obviously....

Posted by: aggressive thinking... | September 10, 2008 7:50 PM | Report abuse

Obama was either stupid to have used the term, or arrogant enough to think he could get away with it by saying he didn't mean it. McCain used the same phrase, but he's friends with Hillary and was clearly talking about her piggish healthcare plan.

Obama didn't watch the nationally televised speech she gave during which she had 38 million viewers? The one where the most entertaining line was a single word, "lipstick?" And he goes ahead anyway and uses that particular metaphor?

The next line in Obama's speech could also be interpreted as cheap shot at McCain where he alluded to a stinky "old fish."

A major gaffe, and it doesn't matter if he meant it or not. McCain has picked up 14 points among white women and 16 among independents in the last two weeks. What Obama shows is that he's getting tired and irritated and loosing his celebrated cool. He didn't look very effective in debating O'Reilly either, although I give him credit for trying.

Posted by: theduke | September 10, 2008 7:49 PM | Report abuse

Real Brother here.

Some of the White Supremacists and Racists have suggested that I and others "work" for Obama.While I don't,if elected I would proudly serve. In reality I realize that the opposition to Barack Obama is based on the fact that Racists, White Supremacists and Black man hating lesbians don't want a qualified Black man in office. Its wrong and I'm happy to expose that on these Boards.

TKCAL

Posted by: Realbrother | September 10, 2008 7:49 PM | Report abuse

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BR8IhMMhe8w

McCain's "lipstick on a pig" quote in reference to Hillary Clinton's health plan.

You should embed that in this column.

Posted by: David Zweig | September 10, 2008 7:49 PM | Report abuse

Howard, we are not in a depression. If you lost your job, I'm sorry but it doesn't mean that everyone in the universe has also lost their jobs. Get meds.

Posted by: Kathy | September 10, 2008 7:48 PM | Report abuse

Please let me know if there are no male pigs. Police officers are called pigs all the time. Little Miss Piggy is famous. McCain obviously thinks Sarah Palin is the pig of the twosome. He is the pig wearing the lipstick, not Sarah. You can rest now Sarah and go back to being your pitbull self, with or without the lipstick. Anyone who thinks Obama was referring to Palin as a pig, such as McCain, is clearly stupid. Thank you McCain for showing up and letting us know you are stupid male-fraud.

Posted by: mzbond | September 10, 2008 7:48 PM | Report abuse

DARE McCain to talk about the ISSUES

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 7:48 PM | Report abuse

She did not want to ban books but questioned the librarian on her choices and wanted new choices to relect her views and not the librarian. The librarian balked and a letter of termination was written. A thousand signature and growing impeachment petition made Sarah rip up the termination letter. It was all over the Alaskan newspapers. CNN had a religious panel that only questioned her minimal call to war, and not praying for a pipeline which no sect supports. She has something to hide in the Monegan case, as major efforts by the Republican party to end the investigation have so far failed. Investigators got no comment from Republicans they questioned, so subpoenas are coming. This will blow up in McCain's face if she is found guilty.

Posted by: Jimbo | September 10, 2008 7:47 PM | Report abuse

Do you ever turn on the news only to realize that life is an empty and pointless miasma of loneliness?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 7:46 PM | Report abuse

"Do YOU know that McCain used THE EXACT same phrase weeks ago, when it come to insulting Hillary Clinton?

What kind of IQ do you have, really?"

Actually, McCain used the comment YEARS AGO, not weeks ago.

And also painfully obvious is the fact that Palin made a lipstick comment VERY VERY RECENTLY and it was obviously fresh on peoples minds.

So dont pull your Obama lap-dogging here. We adults are aware of the facts no matter how much you would like Obamas sexism to be minimized.

That fool hoped he could have it both ways, to call his female opponent a PIG and a STINKY fish and be able to get away with it with liberal lap-dogs cleaning up after him.

Sorry, game played, You lost, McCain Palin wins.

Posted by: KMichaels | September 10, 2008 7:44 PM | Report abuse

Bullsh-t is all the reasons we give for living. And if we can't think up any reasons of our own, we always have the God bullsh-t. We don't know why we're going through all this pointless pain, humiliation, decays, so there better be someone somewhere who does know. That's the God bullsh-t. And then, there's the noble man bullsh-t; that man is a noble creature that can order his own world; who needs God? Well, if there's anybody out there that can look around this demented slaughterhouse of a world we live in and tell me that man is a noble creature, believe me: That man is full of bullsh-t. I don't have anything going for me. I haven't got any kids. And I was married for thirty-three years of shrill, shrieking fraud. So I don't have any bullsh-t left. I just ran out of it, you see.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 7:44 PM | Report abuse

DINNERTIME KIDS!

You can argue about inane BS in the morning.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 7:42 PM | Report abuse

wh o someever . pretends that Palin is "a woman"


is looking for position.


If she were responsible "as a woman" her daughter wouldn't have gotten pregnant...


she's a man in womens clothing pretending to support women,


she's tough? how about greedy....and willing to do whatever it takes to


get some.


She's not in it for women or AMERICA, she's in it for


duh money.....off shore drilling????


you can drill her daughter as long as you pay her for it....


.


.

anyone can see that...


long as you willin to pay,


Palin willing to "let you do it"


responsible parenting????


!not


.

Posted by: too obviously.... | September 10, 2008 7:42 PM | Report abuse

I don't have to tell you things are bad. Everybody knows things are bad. It's a depression. Everybody's out of work or scared of losing their job. The dollar buys a nickel's work, banks are going bust, shopkeepers keep a gun under the counter. Punks are running wild in the street and there's nobody anywhere who seems to know what to do, and there's no end to it. We know the air is unfit to breathe and our food is unfit to eat, and we sit watching our TV's while some local newscaster tells us that today we had fifteen homicides and sixty-three violent crimes, as if that's the way it's supposed to be. We know things are bad - worse than bad. They're crazy. It's like everything everywhere is going crazy, so we don't go out anymore. We sit in the house, and slowly the world we are living in is getting smaller, and all we say is, 'Please, at least leave us alone in our living rooms. Let me have my toaster and my TV and my steel-belted radials and I won't say anything. Just leave us alone.' Well, I'm not gonna leave you alone. I want you to get mad! I don't want you to protest. I don't want you to riot - I don't want you to write to your congressman because I wouldn't know what to tell you to write. I don't know what to do about the depression and the inflation and the Russians and the crime in the street. All I know is that first you've got to get mad. You've got to say, 'I'm a HUMAN BEING, Goddamnit! My life has VALUE!' So I want you to get up now. I want all of you to get up out of your chairs. I want you to get up right now and go to the window. Open it, and stick your head out, and yell:

'I'M AS MAD AS HELL, AND I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE THIS ANYMORE!'

Posted by: Howard | September 10, 2008 7:41 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Caribou Barbie | September 10, 2008 7:40 PM | Report abuse

.

anonymous:
" Putting lipstick on a pig is an idiom and it is about selling a product!"

OK then, so Obama used it in a pathetic attempt to sell his self-serving self.


.

Posted by: Billw | September 10, 2008 7:40 PM | Report abuse

wh o pretends that Palin is "a woman"


is looking for position.


If she were responsible "as a woman" her daughter wouldn't have gotten pregnant...


she's a man in womens clothing pretending to support women,


she's tough? how about greedy....and willing to do whatever it takes to

get some.


She's not in it for women or AMERICA, she's in it for

duh money.....off shore drilling????


you can drill her daughter as long as you pay her for it....


.


.

anyone can see that...

long as you willin to pay,

Palin willing to "let you do it"

responsible parenting????

!not


.

Posted by: obviously.... | September 10, 2008 7:40 PM | Report abuse


Bottom lines:

Obama could have made the issue go away with an apology to Palin, he didn't.

Obama could have chosen Hillary for his Vice President running mate, he didn't.

Obama said he was going to lead an upright campaign as an agent of change, he isn't.

In matters of judgement, views on women, and arrogance... Obama continues to demonstrate he isn't ready to lead. He has less effective leadership experience than Palin and it shows.

As Vice President, Palin will represent more change and inspire more women and young women than any American leader has ever done.

That is the bottom line.

Obama, you don't respect women and you lost my vote.


Posted by: Add me | September 10, 2008 7:39 PM | Report abuse

Mmmm....I love it when people take so much out of context and react obsessively to something they saw 3 seconds of on some partisan TV show hosted by people with few, if any hobbies.

America sucks in the end. Democrat, Republican, who cares? Its just a bunch of bored people who live in the suburbs and resort to Oxys to get them through their sorry McJobs at the middleman's receptionist desk. No wonder China is going to rule in a few decades. They drill their kids to believe in success and not blame all their problems on God.


You all deserve the President you elected two times already: George W. Bush.

Posted by: tt | September 10, 2008 7:39 PM | Report abuse

Real Brother here.

"I hope too all of you Racists and White Supremacists heard and saw the clip of McCain using the same phrase to describe Hillary's policies"..."

Yes, nice lap-dogging for Obama. But what we did not see in the case of Hillary was Hillary referring to herself as a pitbutt with lipstick.

So, duh, it is painfully obvious that there is fresh info that must be taken into account. You cant excuse an old saying if the facts have changed and we have new data that changes everything.

It is obvious that Sarah calling herself a pitbull with lipstick is fresh on the minds of all those following this case.

It is also obvious that Obama wanted to take a veiled jab at her calling her both a pig and a stinking fish (pretty darn low) with the hopes that he could have his cake and eat it too.

Well, it wont work. He lost big on this one. Possibly the entire election on one simple truth about him exposed, his obvious belittlement of women.

BTW, dont you ever tire of playing your warn out race card routine? Perhaps by now you would notice that it is not working this time.

Posted by: KMichaels | September 10, 2008 7:38 PM | Report abuse

Call it what it is. It is yet another sexist remark from the elistist self-serving Obama.

Posted by: KMicaels | September 10, 2008 7:31 PM

++++++++++++++

Do YOU know that McCain used THE EXACT same phrase weeks ago, when it come to insulting Hillary Clinton?

What kind of IQ do you have, really?

So it WAS, it is okay, for a 73 year-old White man to use such a phrase to describe Democratic opponents and their policies, but it is NOT okay for a Black man, a Democrat, to use it to describe their opponents and the opponents policies?

LOL

You must have failed 5th grade or something.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 7:37 PM | Report abuse

FACT: If you were raped and are now pregnant, Sarah Palin believes YOU MUST have that baby. That's right: IN SARAH PALIN'S WORLD, IF YOU WERE RAPED, YOU MUST CARRY THE BABY OF THE RAPIST TO TERM.

If that's what you want, you know what to do.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 7:37 PM | Report abuse

Real Brother here.

A Mexican co-worker of mine was honest when he said he was at first for Hillary, but before the Democratic Primary was over he did something that most Racists, White Supremacists(and Black man hating lesbians) refuse to do and that is actually "listen" to both of them. He found what many of the Racists and White Supremacists and lesbians found and that is Barack Obama is simply smarter, quicker, more learned,intelligent and has a far better grasp of the issues then any body even close to this election. McCain and Palin don't WANT to talk about issues because if they do they'll look even DUMBER then the Pigs and old Fish they are.

TKCAL

Posted by: Realbrother | September 10, 2008 7:37 PM | Report abuse

in case you haven't figured it out yet....


McCain and Palin are lying to sell a product....


out right lying....


it's AMERICA's chance to sue the REPUBLICANS and make back some money....


take advantage of this opportunity do it as a citizen....I don't care what party you support....

FRAUD IS FRAUD....or have the DEMOCRATIC PARTY SUE THE REPUBLICANS FOR FALSIFYING INFORMATAION....


POLLUTING THEINFORMATION STREAM...


clean up AMERICA, stop fraud in it's tracks.


saying Palin was against the Bridge to NoWhere and she stopped it...


no one stopped it, certainly not her...


that's called FRAUD, they're selling the REPUBLIC SCAMMMMMER product....


sue them for false advertising and fraud....


"tax and spend democrats," is also FRAUD


Regan and the bushes have taxed and spent the United States into a deficit each time...


only the Clinton years were deficit free...


using the phrase "tax and spend" democrats is deliberate


FRAUD....


sue them.


that'll get some HEADLINES.....


and as far as lipsticks on pigs, anyone that compares her mug to that of a pit bull isn't concerned about feminism...


after all she'd rather her daughter got pregnant that she learn about birth control and responsible sex...


I have to say Biden calling off the dawgs on Palins' daughter


smells of Kerrys' dive....


why is he giving the wolverines a competitive edge????


these fxxxers lie as easily as other people relieve themselves...


they don't need a break, they need JAILTIME....


give it to 'em, help AMERICA OUT of it's MONETARY and ECONOMIC CRISIS of nation breaking proportions...


play fair???? MAKE THEM or WIN and then play fair...


quit calling a pig a woman, and move on.


.

Posted by: just a short note..... | September 10, 2008 7:37 PM | Report abuse

It is the Repugs who have referred to Palin as a pig. Not the Dems. McCain used that very statement before, oh well.
I guess the only one who would know about Palin being a porker would be the members of her party. I have seen her picture an she does not look like a swine to me. Her personality might be different. What the hell do I know I am just a Dem

Posted by: guappo1 | September 10, 2008 7:36 PM | Report abuse

ODE TO OBAMA # 11

Now Obama he called Palin a bad name
And all in the name of the game?
But he stepped over the line
When he called her swine,
And it shows that he has no shame.


Posted by: Billw | September 10, 2008 7:16 PM
__________________________

Reply:

Please read before you speak. Putting lipstick on a pig is an idiom and it is about selling a product!

The idiom already has a meaning and it's far from your meaning.

Please

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 7:35 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, Jimbo ... Obama really proved his expertise in foreign affairs by advocating retreat & defeat in Iraq for the past four years, didn't he? If we'd listened to him, our credibility in the Middle East would be zilch today and Iraq would be a failed state dominated by Iran and Al-Qaeda.

Yeah, I'm sure Gen. David Patraeus just can't wait to have Barack Obama start telling him what to do about Afghanistan.

Vote McCain.

Posted by: Dan | September 10, 2008 7:35 PM | Report abuse

Palin is a pig. She does wear lipstick. She does stink
McCain is a pig. He wears lipstick when he's alone in D.C. apt. with his dress on. He does stink, because he is rotten inside and out.

Posted by: Charles Levin | September 10, 2008 7:34 PM | Report abuse

.

dano:
"Keep it up."

YEA!!! Bless you and the horse you rode in on.


.

Posted by: Billw | September 10, 2008 7:34 PM | Report abuse

Oh, my God!

This is the first time, EVER, in the history of Democrats that they actually say something remotely funny and, well, clever.

You can put lipstick on a pig, and it is still a pig!

And, guess what? the GOP are now crying foul, saying that phrase was meant as a put down where the governor from Alaska is concerned!

McCain use it to describe Hillary, it WAS okay! Palin used similar phrase during her "phenomenal" addres, it was okay.

Except when the Brother used it,,, THEN it is sexist, inappropriate?

LOL

White people are so lame and silly sometimes!

Posted by: Her Lao | September 10, 2008 7:33 PM | Report abuse

THIS TOPIC IS AN INSULT TO MY INTELLIGENCE.

STOP IT RIGHT NOW!

Posted by: dom | September 10, 2008 7:32 PM | Report abuse

Hey Real Brother, don't you have some more Obama supporters to register down at the local welfare office and methadone clinic?

Posted by: Colonel Stuart | September 10, 2008 7:31 PM | Report abuse

Hey Chris, do you honestly think that Obama did not remember Sarah Palins fresh comments about referring to herself as a tenatious "pitt bull with lipstick"?

Seriously, we know the saying is an old one, but we also know something substantially more fresh. That is Sarah Palins comments.

Surely your lap-dogging for Obama must have it's limits. It is clear as day what he meant by the what he said and that the timing was obvious.

Please dont insult our intelligence the way Obama does and wants you to do.

Call it what it is. It is yet another sexist remark from the elistist self-serving Obama.

Posted by: KMicaels | September 10, 2008 7:31 PM | Report abuse

It seems to me that centcom commander Mullen's statement of we are losing the war in Afghanistan and help is needed. Petraeus is not stupid and knows Obama will give quicker buildup of the Afghan theater over McCain hence Obama may have been right statement by him. He will take over Mellon's job mid September and faces a resurgent Taliban in Hellmand and a growing fundamentalism in Pakistan. The ace in the hole is Zadari whom will not be as cooperative as Musharraf, he will be more against the Taliban and extremism as his wife Bhutto was a victim of these maniacs. The way to win is to first bolster their economy and then push Turkish Islam and madrassas with their modern Islamic viewpoint. The Pashtun's have been fundamentalist for centuries and only madrassas are allowed as schools. We should ask Zadari to bolster those tribes in FATA with troops preferably from Karachi enlistment. We can give development aid in bulldozers, mining equipment and possibly a sheetrock plant for the current tribes. We should give Pakistan textiles duty free status for border security on their part, a closer look at fundamentalist madrassas and helping the tribes. 40% of their economy is based on textiles.

Posted by: Jimbo | September 10, 2008 7:31 PM | Report abuse

What I think enrages people about Obama is that he is basically a decent guy. He absolutely refuses misbehave in any substantive way. He compels them to embarrass themselves with stuff like this lipstick issue -- the best they can come up with. They are frothing at the mouth and can't justify the froth with anything he's done other than his lack of experience. How can you utterly hate someone for not being experienced enough? And so they grow more enraged.

Posted by: Seth | September 10, 2008 7:31 PM | Report abuse


Yep. Good ol' Republican politics! Is there anything more hypocritical and cynical on Earth? Watch for more and more desperate, shrill and diversionary tactics as McCain's convention bounce fades into nothing, and Palin is FURTHER (yes, there's more) exposed as the lying and corrupt moron she is. This is what they do. The difference this time is, Americans want answers and we have a Democrat who can fight!

Posted by: Shawn | September 10, 2008 7:29 PM | Report abuse

African American-men of course- were allowed to vote in 1870. Women of any color weren't allowed to vote until 1893. Let's open up a general discussion of oppression shall we?

Posted by: Kathy | September 10, 2008 7:28 PM | Report abuse

Bottom lines:

Obama could have made this issue go away with an apology to Palin, he didn't.

Obama could have chosen Hillary for his Vice President running mate, he didn't.

Obama said he was going to lead an upright campaign as an agent of change, he isn't.

In matters of judgement, views on women, and arrogance... Obama continues to demonstrate he isn't ready to lead. He has less effective leadership experience than Palin and it shows.

As Vice President, Palin will represent more change and inspire more women and young women than any American leader has ever done.

That is the bottom line.

Obama, you don't respect women and you lost my vote.

Posted by: Me Too | September 10, 2008 7:27 PM | Report abuse

.

jwald1:
"Yes Einstein, Obama backers are angry.
and what are you focused on?"

ODE TO OBAMA # 12

I'm focused on beatin' Obama,
Who some have called Osama.
So his supporters I'll chide
'till their arses are fried,
Then they can run home to their momma.


.

Posted by: Billw | September 10, 2008 7:26 PM | Report abuse

Oh, and "anyone", you're a f****ng idiot. You stay classy now, OK?

Posted by: Dan | September 10, 2008 7:26 PM | Report abuse

Real Brother here.

I hope too all of you Racists and White Supremacists heard and saw the clip of McCain using the same phrase to describe Hillary's policies"...you can put lipstick on a pig but its still a pig" And I hope they note how NOT ONE of the Racists and Black man hating lesbians(or White Supremacists) said one word.

TKCAL

Posted by: Realbrother | September 10, 2008 7:26 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Tuscon Resident | September 10, 2008 7:12 PM

_________________________

Reply:

Thank you Tuscan Resident, I couldn't agree with you more.

I want issues discussed! Not more distractions.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 7:24 PM | Report abuse

Embrace the pig!!!!

Hilarious video from Josh Marshall illustrating Palin's incredible ability to pull in pork for Alaska and Wasilla.

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/

Obama should embrace "lipstick on a pig" as a central theme for his campaign. It really does capture the main argument Obama is making about McCain's "change" mantra, and shows that he isn't going to back down to the Swift Boat nonsense.

Posted by: Groundhogday | September 10, 2008 7:24 PM | Report abuse

"I found the Obama comments amusing, and I suspect this type of uproar is exactly what he was seeking. The McCain campaign is reacting is such a hysterical (to use their own terminology), over-the-top manner"

How is the response over the top? As you said, it was expected. You also found the comments amusing. As was expected.

I guess what liberal morons did not expect is that Obama would be exposed so forcefully for exactly what he did. He can choose what he says but he cant choose the outcome.

And guess what, the outcome is bad for Obama and Good for McCain-Palin.

Game played, Obama loses, McCain-Palin wins.

Posted by: KMichaels | September 10, 2008 7:24 PM | Report abuse

Regardless of whether or not Obama deliberately intended to insult Palin with his "lipstick on a pig" comment, it was an incredibly poor choice of words and the reaction of the people in attendance made it clear that they interpreted it as a slam against Palin. So, the GOP is perfectly right to quickly come out with an ad portraying it as just another example of sexism against female candidates. It's very similar to the ad that the Democrats came out with in response to McCain's comment that he wasn't sure how many houses he and Cindy own, never mind the fact that Cindy keeps her finances separate from his.

Hey, it's politics. Anything is fair game. Expect to see an ad tomorrow highlighting the comment made today by the chairwoman of the S. Carolina Democratic Party that Palin's only qualification for the presidency is that "she hasn't had an abortion." That'll play REAL well with undecided women voters, I'll bet.

Posted by: Dan | September 10, 2008 7:24 PM | Report abuse

Obama has to be tough but not play into the "Freak Show." How about this, "Even if I was referring to her, Sarah Palin can call herself a pitt bull in lipstick but I can't say that McCain's/Palin's policies are George Bush's policies dressed up for the county fair, like lipstick on a pig? Or how about, Guliani was tough on me at the convention, and we've all seen him in lipsitck, but he wasn't chosen as the VP nominee and now we've all seen George Bush in lipstick--Sarah Palin is more of the same--she may not look like George Bush but she is his substantive twin and the result will be the same. Americans are smart enough to look at substance over splash. With Palin's pick we risk not just 4 but 12 more years of the same! Governor of an oil state, no foreign policy experience, plans to learn on the job and surround herself with old guard, she's a hockey mom, he was a baseball son. The disastrous results for our nation will be the same." Come on Obama team, I know you can be tough and smart and get this nonsense off the news!

Posted by: ALAMOM | September 10, 2008 7:23 PM | Report abuse

wh o pretends that Palin is "a woman"


is looking for position.


If she were responsible "as a woman" her daughter wouldn't have gotten pregnant...

she's a man in womens clothing pretending to support women,

she's tough? how about greedy....and willing to do whatever it takes to


get some.

She's not in it for women or AMERICA, she's in it for


duh money.....off shore drilling????

you can drill her daughter as long as you pay her for it....

.

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Posted by: anyone | September 10, 2008 7:23 PM | Report abuse

THIS JUST IN!!!!!!


John Lennon is seen insulting 6 year old Sarah Heath Palin in this photo from 1970:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:JohnLennonImaginePostcard.jpg

Posted by: Dianne71 | September 10, 2008 7:23 PM | Report abuse

Obama's Chickens, Coming Home to Roost!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 7:22 PM | Report abuse

The denials by the Obama campaign ring false with those of us who remember the same sly comments made toward Hillary (remember when he accused her of whining?). So easy to deny. But they are sexist slights nonetheless. Good for the McCain campaign for calling foul. Hillary should have done the same.

Posted by: Jen | September 10, 2008 7:22 PM | Report abuse

It seems the "Palin Truth Squad", by feigning outrage at the most trivial slights to Palin, is trying to use these to deflect ( or lump together) the really serious allegations that are hanging over her. The ongoing ethics investigation in Alaska, the association of her husband ( and herself) with a radical fringe party in Alaska that seeks to dismantle the US, that she contemplated the notion of banning books in her small town and retaliates against government employees that are not on the same page as her: ie. the librarian of her town and the Alaska public safety commissioner who wouldn't go along with her personal vendetta.

Posted by: CJ Hope | September 10, 2008 7:21 PM | Report abuse

Real Brother here.

Agreed, sure Obama could have dropped out and allowed Hillary to gain the nomination. He could have chosen Hillary as VP so that she could have stabbed him in the back and the Black man hating lesbians could have called on Obama to step aside and allow her to be the nominee. But by doing this again, nothing in this Country would have changed. White Supremacy and White Racism(which is the problem) would have persisted.

I say no. If Barack Obama is to lose this election because of Racism and White Supremacy then so be it, but to claim that he should give up because of Racism and White Supremacy would be tragic.

If America is this Racist then fine we can accept that we deserve what we get if this is what we as a Nation decide we want then that's it. If the Black man hating lesbians feel that Sarah Palin is better to run this Country then Barack Obama then fine but don't BLAME Barack Obama and don't you DARE beg him to bail these IDIOTS out when they mess up.

TKCAL

Posted by: Realbrother | September 10, 2008 7:21 PM | Report abuse

the "pit-bull" turns out to be a cute little barking puddle, who after you bark back at it runs and hides behind the trainers. I wonder how this "pit-bull" will face Putin the Doberman

Posted by: aafshar | September 10, 2008 7:21 PM | Report abuse

RachelB, what we could have instead is the "do nothing but polish speeches Obama" and then the millions killed would be us on US soil..... Geesh ppl these ppl want nothing short of everyone of us dead... Dems & Reps!!! I'd be very careful about stating what God will or will not do if I were you. There have been bold statements such as this before only for the statement maker to find out the power of the almighty.. ie: the man that build & designed the titanic stated even the almighty couldn't sink her and you should know the rest of the story. I'd also be careful about pointing out images, when your boy is trying to "change" the moon over yo mammie whatever for our countries flag. That symbol is disgusting and that's a change we don't need. Finally, Obama might think he's the messiah, but he's anything but close. Therefore. wut's he gonna be able to do about houses going into the ocean? Part the ocean? People without common sense are dangerous

Posted by: More constant than bitter | September 10, 2008 7:20 PM | Report abuse

How many people blogging here are paid operatives for one of the parties?


Posted by: Upwards | September 10, 2008 7:18 PM | Report abuse

"This is the rankest BS I have ever heard. The term "You can put lipstick on a pig but it's still a pig" is as old as the road to Rome."

Nice lap-dogging. Yes, the term is old. But here is the other key issue. There has been another analogy fresh on the minds of people? What is it? That Sarah Palin referred to herself as a pitt bull with lipstick. How well known is this fact? Pretty damned obvious that every political type around knows what she said.

So, here comes Obama, freshly stung from the obvious (and truthful) jabs against Obama, angry as a wounded school boy hurt by a girl smarter than him. And what does he do? He lets himself show his true sexist female hating colors. This is not his or his campaigns first sexist remark and it wont be his last.

His hope was that he could call Sarah a pig and a stinky fish, get away with it, please his base, then let the liberal media lap dog for him, since that is what they do best.

It is clearly obvious that the timing of this "OLD QUOTE" would take on NEW MEANING since Sarahs comment about herself is undeniably current.

Sorry but your excusing of sexist Obama has got to stop. Face it. He is seriously flawed. His background of radical preachers, questionable property deals, etc will not be hidden forever.

Posted by: KMichaels | September 10, 2008 7:18 PM | Report abuse

Gosh, Chris. You could have at least given the ENTIRE quote instead of cherry-picking the 'offending' part'. Here, allow me to educate you and some of the uninformed people in this thread.

"John McCain says he's about change too, and so I guess his whole angle is, 'Watch out George Bush -- except for economic policy, health care policy, tax policy, education policy, foreign policy and Karl Rove-style politics -- we're really going to shake things up in Washington,'" he said.

"That's not change. That's just calling something the same thing something different. You know you can put lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig. You know you can wrap an old fish in a piece of paper called change, it's still going to stink after eight years. We've had enough of the same old thing."

Posted by: Bob Peters | September 10, 2008 7:17 PM | Report abuse

in case you haven't figured it out yet....


McCain and Palin are lying to sell a product....


out right lying....


saying Palin was against the Bridge to NoWhere and she stopped it...


no one stopped it, certainly not her...

that's called FRAUD, they're selling the REPUBLIC SCAMMMMMER product....


sue them for false advertising and fraud....


"tax and spend democrats," is also FRAUD


Regan and the bushes have taxed and spent the United States into a deficit each time...


only the Clinton years were deficit free...

using the phrase "tax and spend" democrats is deliberate


FRAUD....


sue them.

that'll get some HEADLINES.....

and as far as lipsticks on pigs, anyone that compares her mug to that of a pit bull isn't concerned about feminism...


after all she'd rather her daughter got pregnant that she learn about birth control and responsible sex...


I have to say Biden calling off the dawgs on Palins' daughter


smells of Kerrys' dive....


why is he giving the wolverines a competitive edge????


these fxxxers lie as easily as other people relieve themselves...


they don't need a break, they need JAILTIME....


give it to 'em, help AMERICA OUT of it's MONETARY and ECONOMIC CRISIS of nation breaking proportions...


play fair???? MAKE THEM or WIN and then play fair...


quit calling a pig a woman, and move on.

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Posted by: just a short note | September 10, 2008 7:17 PM | Report abuse

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ODE TO OBAMA # 11

Now Obama he called Palin a bad name
And all in the name of the game?
But he stepped over the line
When he called her swine,
And it shows that he has no shame.


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Posted by: Billw | September 10, 2008 7:16 PM | Report abuse

Supporters of Gov. Palin say that Sen. Obama's remarks were sexist. Eddie Izzard wears lipstick. The Senator said nothing about gender. If anything, he's "lipstickist" and an-equal-opportunity critic of those who wear cosmetics. ;^)

Posted by: starpower | September 10, 2008 7:16 PM | Report abuse

Seeing Obama respond to every little wrinkle coming out of the McCain campaign is embarrasing. Why is he even talking about Palin? Because Obama doesn't understand the first rule of holes: WHEN YOU'RE IN ONE STOP DIGGING!!!!

I predict that within two weeks, Biden will resign for "undisclosed medical reasons" clearing the way for Obama to pick Clinton. Hillary has too much pride however, and won't accept. Barry is cooked.

Posted by: Mongoose1 | September 10, 2008 7:15 PM | Report abuse

I found the Obama comments amusing, and I suspect this type of uproar is exactly what he was seeking. The McCain campaign is reacting is such a hysterical (to use their own terminology), over-the-top manner to every perceived (and invented) slight that it is hard to believe anyone will still be taking them seriously.

If the WP/ABC poll (accompanying this article) about issues vs. personal qualities is accurate, McCain's strategy is a losing one. But that is obvious to many--and likely most--of us already.

Posted by: micron26 | September 10, 2008 7:14 PM | Report abuse

IS JOE BIDEN FALLING ON HIS SWORD FOR HILLARY?

Did everyone here see Perry Bacon's 5:45 p.m. dispatch over at The Trail?

Could Biden, a savvy politician and nobody's fool, be paving the way for a lateral to Hillary -- as the REAL "feminist" VP candidate?

Read Bacon's piece. There could be a September Surprise on the Biden burner...

Posted by: Outside the Box | September 10, 2008 7:14 PM | Report abuse

Why won't the news media tell the truth about the idiom "lipstick on a pig."

The media is allowing the people to form a negative opinion about this old idiom.

The idiom is about selling a product!

If you make it look pretty, it might sell.

That's the bottom line.

So, forget about!

Posted by: ph | September 10, 2008 7:14 PM | Report abuse

And we should be concerned about a archiac phrase? Even if it was said directly about Governor Palin, you mean that the Republican ticket for President and Vice President are so thin-skinned that a phrase such as "lipstick on a pig" (which clearly, and as long as I've been around, has meant you can dress it up but it still won't change the basic item) affects them so much they can't concentrate on other issues of, perhaps, greater importance to the nation they wish to lead? And if one of our allies, or worse, one of our adversaries, said something "bad", then that would bring a halt to diplomacy, the economy, and other issues?

My god, people. We've been at war for years; we're winning in Iraq but we can't stand down or reduce more than minimally because it might show weakness and everything's fragile; we need to find troops to expand our role in Afghanistan; we're concerned about North Korea, we have significant housing, banking, investment, energy, environment, and other issues, and everything grinds to a halt because of phrase said innocuosly?

And, we need to have a former governor launch a "truth squad" to highlight the comment (I'll repeat that... to highlight the comment) that was made about a pig wearing lipstick? And for that they need to hold a conference call announcing the group's formation.

Issues. Please people. Can we talk issues? Substantive issues, not bringing everything to a halt for an archaic comment? Or, should we expect that if Russian or North Korean or Iranian leaders, or for that matter Iraqi, or Israeli, or even British leaders say something "bad" that we'll halt everything to sulk.

For a long time I've respected my Senator; I'm now disgusted with his campaign.

Posted by: Tuscon Resident | September 10, 2008 7:12 PM | Report abuse

Lipstick on a pig is sexist? I always thought of it as criticism of something bad that is made to look good. Politicians have been using the term for over a century with often use from both sides. Quick prejudice test, do you think of Jesus and his followers going into the temple turning over tables and driving the profiteers from religion out or do you think of Al Sharpton and the Tawana Brawley case when you hear the term "community organizer."

Posted by: Jimbo | September 10, 2008 7:12 PM | Report abuse


Progressives- Let's chill out on the confrontation. Instead, respectfully speak to everyone in your circles and ask them to contact others, and get people who want a change in direction to register to vote now! Enough yackity-yack...

Posted by: Upwards | September 10, 2008 7:12 PM | Report abuse

People are stupid.

Posted by: Patrick Huss | September 10, 2008 7:11 PM | Report abuse

38 years ago, when John and Paul broke up, Paul released the album Ram which had a photo of Paul and a lamb and the song "Too Many People", whcih John took as a swipe at him.
So, Months later, John released "Imagine" which had a picture of John holding a pig

Posted by: JakeE | September 10, 2008 7:09 PM | Report abuse

Bottom lines:

Obama could have made the issue go away with an apology to Palin, he didn't.

Obama could have chosen Hillary for his Vice President running mate, he didn't.

Obama said he was going to lead an upright campaign as an agent of change, he isn't.

In matters of judgement, views on women, and arrogance... Obama continues to demonstrate he isn't ready to lead. He has less effective leadership experience than Palin and it shows.

As Vice President, Palin will represent more change and inspire more women and young women than any American leader has ever done.

That is the bottom line.

Obama, you don't respect women and you lost my vote.

Posted by: Agreed | September 10, 2008 7:07 PM | Report abuse

This is the rankest BS I have ever heard. The term "You can put lipstick on a pig but it's still a pig" is as old as the road to Rome. My sainted mother used it years ago and the republicans better get used to it because if I was Obama/Biden I would use it over and over again to describe their idea of change. Of course the Obama campaign fell all over themselves saying they did not mean to offend poor Sara. What they should have said was "If the shoe fits, wear it." This Obama outfit is more and more resembling Kerry and unless they get more assertive, they too will become a footnote in history rather than make history.

Posted by: Opa2 | September 10, 2008 7:07 PM | Report abuse

Yes Einstein, Obama backers are angry. This entire country should be angry. Have you looked around lately? There should be riots in the streets. People are dying in a country we have no right to be in, the middle class is disappearing quickly- are you aware of what happens when there is no middle class? I would guess not. People are losing their homes at a rate not seen since the depression, gas prices,the national debt,health care,polution,Katrina
victims still living in third world conditions,we rank 5th (in the westernized world) in education,genocide in the sudan, do I need to keep going? Because I could.
So all this, and what are you focused on?

Posted by: jwald1 | September 10, 2008 7:06 PM | Report abuse

Bill W wrote--

dano:
"obama is whining like a sissy"

ODE TO OBAMA # 10

Now Obama he acts quite prissy
And he got himself in a hissie.
He took a little dig
And spoke of a pig
Showin' his nature to whine like a sissy.


Posted by: Billw | September 10, 2008 6:56 PM

-----i laughed so darn hard at that!!! Very Good! Excellent. I thought Ode #9 was good, #10 was even better.

Keep it up.


Posted by: dano | September 10, 2008 7:05 PM | Report abuse

hussein: "phony outrage"

Did hussein yell "PHONY" while in his Styrofoam Greek Temple of the Gods?

NOBODY understands "PHONY" better than the world-class expert on PHONY - empty-suit hussein.

As the only candidate for president with no relevant experience, no meaningful career and who is, for all practical purposes, nothing but an artificial creation of he loony-left liberal media with no more substance or depth than a cartoon, PHONY is indeed the right word for hussein to use. He just just used it for he wrong thing.

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Posted by: ALEX H. | September 10, 2008 7:01 PM | Report abuse

"It seems hard -- if not impossible -- to believe that Obama intended to equate Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin and a pig. As has been noted many times over the past 24 hours, the phrase "lipstick on a pig" is one that the Illinois senator used on the stump before Palin was even in consideration as vice president."

Actually, politics is about timing. And obviously politicians are aware of the concept of continuity of thought. That means that they play off of recent statements of their opononents and try to use their own words against them. That is fine. Politics as usual.

Therefore, what is obvious, and more believeable is that Obama knew exactly what he was saying, that he hoped to arouse his base, and thought he would be the clever politician hoping that lib media lap dogs would come to his defense.

That way he can have his cake and eat it too.

How in heck can a politician that has freshly heard Sarah Palin refer to herself as a pitbull with lipstick not remember that when he uses another animal also with lipstick.

It is undeniably obvious that Obama wanted the connection to be made with the hopes that his lap-dogs would back him up when the complaints came.

Sorry, lib media. We know you love to lap dog for Obama, but you are not getting your sell this time. Game played, you lost, Obama lost, McCain and Palin win.

Posted by: KMichaels | September 10, 2008 7:00 PM | Report abuse

WHY TO FIRE UP THE DEMOCRATS BASE, MCCAIN!

YOU'RE DUMBER THAN A BAG OF ROCKS, YOU OLD FOSSIL!

Posted by: Nate | September 10, 2008 6:58 PM | Report abuse

Come on, Chris. Are you really falling for this stuff from Davis/Schmidt/McCain? Tell me the truth - aren't you a little insulted by these kinds of tactics, as a journalist and as a citizen.

Let's talk about something else in these last 57 days. The economy, the war(s), the falling dollar, healthcare, energy policy, closing the Enron loophole, alternative fuels, environmental protection, and, oh yeah, restoring the Bill of Rights all spring to mind as better things we could be reading about.

Posted by: RoxTex | September 10, 2008 6:58 PM | Report abuse

.

dano:
"obama is whining like a sissy"

ODE TO OBAMA # 10

Now Obama he acts quite prissy
And he got himself in a hissie.
He took a little dig
And spoke of a pig
Showin' his nature to whine like a sissy.


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Posted by: Billw | September 10, 2008 6:56 PM | Report abuse

Hey, vote McCain-Palin! And get four more years of this same unremitting lying dreck, while our once-great nation continues its sorry slide downhill to hell.

But if you'd like for things to start actually getting better, vote Obama-Biden.

Posted by: oldhonky | September 10, 2008 6:55 PM | Report abuse

You're welcome.

Posted by: Kathy | September 10, 2008 6:53 PM | Report abuse

Fine. Let's show a video of Sharia Palin's favorite pastime - blasting wolves from the air.
Posted by: SHARIA PALIN IS A WOLF KILLER
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Fine. And you can watch Senator Effete lose another nine points among white male voters.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 6:51 PM | Report abuse

Kathy wrote; I said it once here and I'll say it again. What Obama said was either foolish or vicious. Either way, it was not presidential.

Posted by: Kathy | September 10, 2008 6:46 PM

---The most succinct, accurate statement on this board the entire afternoon. Perfectly said.Thanks

Posted by: dano | September 10, 2008 6:49 PM | Report abuse

I'm surprised how many reasonable people still believe that someone who voted for Bush 4 years ago could be persuaded by reason. Face it, the majority (still slim but not much longer the way our education system is going) are dimwits who don't want to listen or understand arguments or fuzzy math and resent anyone who calls them on it.

Posted by: BB | September 10, 2008 6:48 PM | Report abuse


Aren't Republicans ASHAMED of this campaign? It's pathetic!

McCain and Lyin' Sarah Palin are scared to talk about the issues because, let's face it, THEY are the problem and they are morally and intellectually bankrupt, have zero ideas, zero vision. Just more of the same disastrous policies and an entire campaign based completely on the hope that Americans are stupid!

This is really sad. And the media plays right along!

We will not miss this opportunity to turn this around and towards the future again. no matter how desperately the powers-that-be try to drag us backwards into a puddle of mediocrity, inequality, oppression and idiocy.

KICK THEIR BUTTS OBAMA!


Posted by: sequoia | September 10, 2008 6:46 PM | Report abuse

This has really been an enlightening campaigning. Two weeks ago we were talking about how many homes John McCain owns. One week ago we were talking about a pregnant 17 year old and now we are talking about pigs. All we get are polls which show the same thing if you count the margin for error.

As I see it presidential campaigns are like the baseball season. They are marathons and team that has consistent pitching wins and clutch hitting wins. To me McCain-Palin are duds with nothing to offer but gimmicks. Every day they talk about pigs instead of economics they lose. They will fade down the stretch. Obama's got the pitching (economic message and change) that will carry him to the presidency.

Posted by: Steven G | September 10, 2008 6:46 PM | Report abuse

I said it once here and I'll say it again. What Obama said was either foolish or vicious. Either way, it was not presidential.

Posted by: Kathy | September 10, 2008 6:46 PM | Report abuse

Obama is whining like a little sissy.

He gets called out a couple of days and wants every body to lay off. Whahaha

Put on some of that lipstick yourself you pansy.

Posted by: dano | September 10, 2008 6:42 PM | Report abuse

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Dave:
"Is it too late for the Democrats to have another convention? "

Obama blew it. More of his bad judgment. Obama and Clinton would have been difficult to beat.

Posted by: Billw | September 10, 2008 6:41 PM | Report abuse

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ODE TO OBAMA #9

We have a new star named Palin
An' Obama's supporters are all wailin'
They piss and they moan,
'cause it hurts 'em to the bone
'cause his numbers in the polls are all failin'

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Posted by: Billw | September 10, 2008 6:38 PM | Report abuse

thanks Simon for your latest update on American Idol...

oh wait...this is gaffe according to you and your colleagues...while the American people suffer...

Shame on you, Chris Cizzila...

it is like you just want to be paid attention to...

why can't you say McCain response was stupid...

Posted by: justmy2 | September 10, 2008 6:36 PM | Report abuse

Why didn't you provide the exact quote and context, Mr. Cillizza, so that readers could judge for themselves?

Posted by: bam | September 10, 2008 6:35 PM | Report abuse

McScab - Lipstick = PIG

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 6:34 PM | Report abuse

It's truly amazing and appalling that this kind of lowbrow politics works. It's sad proof that a large part of our electorate is dumb as a stump. The McCain camp is running a campaign straight off the Jerry Springer show and the ignorant masses are lapping it up like the imbeciles they are. I really didn't think anyone could out-sleaze the campaigns run by Bush, but I stand corrected.

Posted by: Chip_M | September 10, 2008 6:33 PM | Report abuse

Some Repug said:

I have noted some angry Obama supporters here.

That is a good sign. GO MCCAIN & PALIN!!!

How about waiting until the Lipstick and the other make-up comes off. Then we'll see!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 6:31 PM | Report abuse


Is it too late for the Democrats to have another convention? Seriously, what are the rules on this? They need to have an emergency meeting to reconsider their choice of nominee. Buyer's remorse.

Posted by: Dave | September 10, 2008 6:31 PM | Report abuse

I haven’t heard anyone use the ‘c’-word to describe what’s going on here - not the one you’re thinking - I’m talking about ‘CONFLATION.’

For the Republicans in the room, it means erroneously but purposely treating two DISTINCT concepts as if they were one, even though the two have NOTHING IN COMMON for purposes of creating ambiguity, fallacies and misleading information.

It has happened with ‘lipstick’, and even more importantly with ‘change.’ Obama’s change bears no resemblance to McCain/Palin’s. Yet Obama’s campaign has allowed the Republican equivalent of Jed and Ellie May to not just CONFLATE but CO_OPT their platform.

I don’t know what’s going on in the Obama backroom, but from the outside it’s looking and sounding a lot like Hillary’s trainwreck of a campaign (sorry, HRC; I heart you but you mucked it up via organizational arrongance.) Let’s hope BO isn’t taking a page from her playbook - because in this case, there isn’t a ‘next year.’

Posted by: Deja Vu | September 10, 2008 6:30 PM | Report abuse

You Republicans are so cute when you are mad.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 6:29 PM | Report abuse

"Cannabis linked to earlier psychosis onset..." This explains why so many left-wingers are becoming unhinged over Sarah Palin.

Posted by: Dave | September 10, 2008 6:29 PM | Report abuse

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I have noted some angry Obama supporters here.

That is a good sign. GO MCCAIN & PALIN!!!


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Posted by: Billw | September 10, 2008 6:28 PM | Report abuse

George Bush a principled man? Really?
Coke snorting,alcholic,not reporting to duty, because my rich powerful daddy can get me out of anything, Carl I've sold my soul to the devil Rove employer, used 9/11 as an excuse to get us into a war his cronnies wanted when daddy was in office (daddy was a little smarter than georgie II)
liar. He has made this country a joke around the world. People who voted for him should be outraged because he has made complete fools of you.

Posted by: jwald1 | September 10, 2008 6:28 PM | Report abuse

And, just moments ago, the McCain campaign launched a new television ad portraying Obama's campaign as a pack of wolves seeking to "destroy" Palin.

Fine. Let's show a video of Sharia Palin's favorite pastime - blasting wolves from the air. I seriously doubt she'll invite John Sydney McCrash to pilot the plane. He's already wrecked five US planes.

Posted by: SHARIA PALIN IS A WOLF KILLER | September 10, 2008 6:27 PM | Report abuse

I hope I don't have to read another headline from the Globe in England that asked "How could 50+ million people be so stupid" when talking about the re-election of Chimpy

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 6:27 PM | Report abuse

Anonymous, you are truly gasping at straws if you think a 2 point McCain lead in a traditionally Republican state is cause for celebration. The stench of desperation in the McCain camp is beginning to seep out.

Posted by: joebewildered | September 10, 2008 6:25 PM | Report abuse

What is so interesting about this whole flap-up is that the McSame campaign jumped to the conclusion that Obama was talking about McScab. There must be a shred of truth there somewhere.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 6:25 PM | Report abuse

McCain used the phrase three times in campaigns, once toward Hillary Clinton.
Posted by: ejgallagher1


That was Hillary Clinton.

Half of the country probably stood up and cheered. I'm sure the ultra-liberal crackpots who got Obama nominated joined in the cheering.

But keep on whining.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 6:23 PM | Report abuse

My advice to the Obama campaign is to face this type of campaign head on. As the Senator said, "Enough is enough." Make a TV commercial showing his statement (in full) and what the McCain campaign said about it. Tell the American people, "They think you're idiots. They don't want to talk about the issues because they have 8 years of 'splaining to do."

Take this bunch of lies head on and let it ride where it may.

Posted by: amaikovich | September 10, 2008 6:22 PM | Report abuse

It's unfortunate that the first woman in the White House comes from the republican party, but such is life. The DNC were absolute fools to play with the rules (and yes, they did) in order to install Obama. Obama was a complete idiot to have chosen anyone other than Clinton as his running mate (though I do like Joe) and he will pay the price when he loses this election.

On the bright side: we will have a democratic majority in the house to keep McCain in check (if Pelosi does her job!).

And we will finally have shown that ANY party that wants to work in the White House had better put a woman on the ticket. America is more than 50% female. It's about d*mn time that we had a woman in the White House.

Posted by: the_Voice_of_Reason | September 10, 2008 6:21 PM | Report abuse

What's really appalling is that there is a constituency for this crap, and its called the Republican base.

Posted by: nclwtk | September 10, 2008 6:20 PM | Report abuse

"In the 90's you had a President that looked the other way. One that didn't take out Bin laden when he had a chance.

we paid the price September 11th."

Right, and who was in office when 9/11 happened? And who has failed to capture bin Laden in the seven years since 9/11? And who invaded Iraq, which had no connection to the terrorist attacks, when he could have tripled the efforts to capture bin Laden? A rightwinger.

Why? Because more than anything else, Bush needed the image of bin Laden and the bogus elevated terror threats to keep Americans on edge. Anyone think it is a coincidence that Bush decided to increase the effort to get bin Laden just a few weeks before the election?

We don't need a neocon and a theocon in our White House for four more years.

Posted by: castanea | September 10, 2008 6:17 PM | Report abuse

I'm sorry you repugs have such a sorry choice.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 6:17 PM | Report abuse

So, you are not going to print Obama's quote - in context - in your report? How very unbiased of you, sir. Way to give a pass to the McCain campaign!

And, no, links don't count.

Posted by: jb | September 10, 2008 6:17 PM | Report abuse

The most jaw-dropping aspect of this entire debacle is the fact that there are apparently so many people out there that are willing to believe the lies spread about Obama. One would think -- especially in the information age where just about everyone has access to the internet and there is no shortage of news programs on television that attempt to educate voters regarding candidates and the issues -- that we would be hard-pressed to find even one person out there that actually believes that Obama is a Muslim. Or that Obama actually called Sarah Palin ... poor, poor little Sarah ... a pig, in lipstick no less. Or any of the other outrageous, desperate lies that people try to spew against Obama. So how shocking is it that there are so many people out there who actually believe this sort of nonsensical drivel, and then try to perpetuate it further?

Posted by: Kay Decker | September 10, 2008 6:16 PM | Report abuse

Palin = McScab

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 6:16 PM | Report abuse

Jimmy C. wrote:

"You Obama supporters are very angry.
Wouldn't your time be better served helping him organize one of his communities? He's one step below Sharpton and Jackson."

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Posted by: luvmynaturalhair | September 10, 2008 6:15 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 6:15 PM | Report abuse

"Sensing an opportunity, the McCain campaign launched a "truth squad" headed by former Massachusetts Gov. Jane Swift designed to highlight the comment by Obama; "It's clear to me -- as I'm sure it will be to fair-minded Republicans, Democrats and independents across the country -- that Senator Obama owes Governor Palin an apology," said Swift on a conference call announcing the group's formation."

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Posted by: luvmynaturalhair | September 10, 2008 6:14 PM | Report abuse

Election 2008: Virginia Presidential Election

Virginia: McCain 49% Obama 47%

The latest FRasmussen Reports telephone poll in the state shows John McCain with 49% of the vote while Barack Obama earns 47%

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Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 6:13 PM | Report abuse

If the Lipstick fits, wear it.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 6:13 PM | Report abuse

Anonymous wrote:

"A gentleman would not go there, no matter what she said.

we just got a look into the man's character, and I for one, don't like what I see.

I want a President to have Class.

Clearly, he showed he has none."

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Exactly, and that's why you shouldn't vote for McCain ... he has no class and he has no character.


Posted by: luvmynaturalhair | September 10, 2008 6:13 PM | Report abuse

The problem I have with this type of campaign (the "pig with lipstick" issue is so disingenuous as to actually make one wince), is that crap like this can actually affect elections (e.g., Swift boat).

But while it might help you win, it impairs your ability to govern after an election. I'm convinced President Bush's incredible lack of success was partially do to the fact that 49% pretty much hated him after the election. It can't help a country when so many people not only dislike you, but actually openly deride your character in casual conversations.

I do believe McCain/Palin are getting to the same point. Hey, his own campaign manager said the election wouldn't be about issues, but feelings. Good grief.

Posted by: amaikovich | September 10, 2008 6:13 PM | Report abuse

McCain used the phrase three times in campaigns, once toward Hillary Clinton. The Republicans are once again making something out of nothing, but then again they have nothing but lies, lies and more lies.

Posted by: ejgallagher1 | September 10, 2008 6:11 PM | Report abuse

Unfortunately for Obama, this sort of tactic is clearly what speaks to the Republican base. Fortunately for Obama, any intelligent person can see what a farcical episode this is on the part of the McCain campaign. Clearly, however, McCain is using the Karl Rove playbook to try to gain points in this race. To wit, if an opponent is gaining on you, and you need some Republican voters to really hate and despise your opponent, just make up some lies about the opponent. It worked for Bush and Rove in 2000. McCain is banking on the fact that he can use the same sort of dishonest tactic to his benefit in 2008.

McCain was done in during the 2000 primaries when Rove's staff made calls to voters in South Carolina suggesting that McCain had fathered a black child out of wedlock. That was the end of the 2000 election for McCain. But now McCain is employing the same tactics of dishonesty against Obama with this "lipstick on a pig" comment. McCain isn't even man enough to own up to the fact that he himself has used the comment, and against Hillary Clinton no less!

But what I think this tactic by the McCain camp highlights most glaringly is how they're planning to use Sarah Palin in this race: Every time the Obama camp utters any phrase, the McCain camp will twist and contort that phrase to make it seem as though Obama and Democrats are picking on the poor little woman from backwoods Alaska with the Downs syndrome baby. Poor, poor little Sarah. How can big bad Obama possibly justify picking on poor, poor little Sarah? She's just too feeble and weak to take any sort of criticism. So get used to it folks. If Obama or Biden even looks cross-eyed at Sarah Palin, someone owes the Republicans an apology!!!!!

Posted by: Kay Decker | September 10, 2008 6:11 PM | Report abuse

Anonymous wrote: "I want a President with class"

Would you approve of Obama if he took Michele to Sturgis and encouraged her to join in a wet T-shirt contest? Or perhaps if he publicly called her CU Next Tuesday? This leads me to believe you wouldn't recognize class if it came up and bit you on the...

Posted by: joebewildered | September 10, 2008 6:10 PM | Report abuse

Anonymous wrote at 6:03PM:

"Feast,

You didn't count all 57 States. Oh ya, that's right...we only have 50 States.....but there are 57 nations of Islam....Whoops!!

either the man is truly ignorant, or else he is a moron.

You pick? Which one?"

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The fact that your parents didn't practice birth control made them which one? You pick.

Posted by: luvmynaturalhair | September 10, 2008 6:10 PM | Report abuse

Is that the best you idiotic repugs can do?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 6:09 PM | Report abuse

Crocodile Tears.

Boo Hoo McCain, grow a spine and stop hiding behind your VP's skirt with this faux issue. The rest of America has real concerns, like paying for their health insurance, keeping their jobs, and worries about their homes being foreclosed, and don't have time for this media created controversy.

Day 11 and counting without facing the media or answering any questions. That is the real outrage.

Posted by: Leichtman | September 10, 2008 6:09 PM | Report abuse

You have to be a pibull without grey cells to be elected. Two wars and Bin Laden still partying in his cave, and to think Bush stood of for the country and not for his pockets is very telling. Reading Goebbels must be mandatory in schools, at least it would educate people and let them see,that the Bush pre war propaganda is taken straight from his book.
Only the rich republicans in power, both in the govt. and in the corporate world benefit from the large uneducated pool voting block.

Posted by: poppy2 | September 10, 2008 6:09 PM | Report abuse

So it's ok for Sen. McCain to use the "lipstick on a pig" idiom to describe Sen. Clinton's health plan, but it's not ok for Sen. Obama to use it to describe the GOP "change" platform?

When Sen. McCain apologizes for his statement, then we'll know his campaign is serious about it. If he doesn't apologize, it's safe to assume they're using it as a distraction from the real issues (like lying about the Bridge to Nowhere).

Posted by: JohnD | September 10, 2008 6:09 PM | Report abuse

Anonymous

"Feast,

You didn't count all 57 States. Oh ya, that's right...we only have 50 States.....but there are 57 nations of Islam....Whoops!!

either the man is truly ignorant, or else he is a moron.

You pick? Which one?"

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The fact that your parents didn't practice birth control made them which one? You pick.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 6:08 PM | Report abuse

Check out business week. The current issue rates tax plans, favoring Obama's and blasting McCain's. Oh, those 'liberals' at Business Week! WSJ has had a lot of pro-Obama economic opinions too (some suspect they will endorse him but we'll see).

Anyway, I post this so readers will know there are real papers/magazines out there covering the issues. The WaPo has definitely thrown in the towel on covering anything of substance.

Posted by: Businessperson | September 10, 2008 6:08 PM | Report abuse

Anonymous

"Feast,

You didn't count all 57 States. Oh ya, that's right...we only have 50 States.....but there are 57 nations of Islam....Whoops!!

either the man is truly ignorant, or else he is a moron.

You pick? Which one?"

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The fact that your parents didn't practice birth control made them which one? You pick.

Posted by: luvmynaturalhair | September 10, 2008 6:08 PM | Report abuse

The Rove-Palin campaign engages in an onslaught of deliberate, brazen, sleazy, preposterous LIES -- and The Washington Post actually praises their grasp of the "politics of perception". The fact is that without the corporate-owned media to enable, legitimize, rationalize and amplify the Rove-Palin's LIES, they would never get away with them. But then, it's not your job to accurately and impartially report the facts, is it? Your job is to help elect right-wing Republicans who will cut taxes on the ultra-rich and deregulate media ownership.

Posted by: SecularAnimist | September 10, 2008 6:08 PM | Report abuse

Anonymous

"Feast,

You didn't count all 57 States. Oh ya, that's right...we only have 50 States.....but there are 57 nations of Islam....Whoops!!

either the man is truly ignorant, or else he is a moron.

You pick? Which one?"

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The fact that your parents didn't practice birth control made them which one? You pick.

Posted by: luvmynaturalhair | September 10, 2008 6:08 PM | Report abuse

Anonymous

"Feast,

You didn't count all 57 States. Oh ya, that's right...we only have 50 States.....but there are 57 nations of Islam....Whoops!!

either the man is truly ignorant, or else he is a moron.

You pick? Which one?"

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The fact that your parents didn't practice birth control made them which one? You pick.

Posted by: luvmynaturalhair | September 10, 2008 6:08 PM | Report abuse

Anonymous wrote:
"George Bush is a Principled man. That's what you libs don't get. That's why we conservatives love the guy. He stood up and did right to protect this country, no matter which way the wind blowed..."
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George Bush lied us into a war, gave big tax breaks to the rich, and dishonored our country by instituting torture. His disapproval rating is the highest in history. Principled? Four more years????

Posted by: Skeptic21 | September 10, 2008 6:03 PM | Report abuse

Anonymous wrote:
"George Bush is a Principled man. That's what you libs don't get. That's why we conservatives love the guy. He stood up and did right to protect this country, no matter which way the wind blowed..."
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George Bush lied us into a war, gave big tax breaks to the rich, and dishonored our country by instituting torture. His disapproval rating is the highest in history. Principled? Four more years????

Posted by: Skeptic21 | September 10, 2008 6:03 PM | Report abuse

I LOVE your Gorilla math

lets look at the polls shall we?

MI- Obama 2.0 (has led for 3 months)
VI- McCain 2.6
NV- Obama (latest poll 5.0)
NH- Obama 3.3
NM- Obama 2.3
NV-Mccain 4.7
MO-Mccain 4.7
CO- Obama 3.0
FL- McCain 3.0
NC-McCain 4.0
OH- McCain 1.3
IA- Obama 9.0
MT-Mccain 9.0
OR-Obama 7.0
GA- Mccain 6.3
PA-Obama 4.0
WI-Obama 4.3
MN-Obama 4.7
NJ-Obama 8.7
WA-Obama 9.7
MS-Mccain 11.7

Electoral Map
Obama- 217
Mccain - 189

Now do the math from the states above and see who wins
OOPS!
Obama


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Feast,

You didn't count all 57 States. Oh ya, that's right...we only have 50 States.....but there are 57 nations of Islam....Whoops!!

either the man is truly ignorant, or else he is a moron.

You pick? Which one?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 6:03 PM | Report abuse

I don't think she wears lipstick, does she? I thought that was her natural coloration. I don't get it. Maybe the color shows more when she leaves the cold climate of Alaska and enters the more temperate climate of the "lower 48." Am I missing something?

Posted by: Dazed N. Confussed | September 10, 2008 5:59 PM | Report abuse

Constantly bitter:
Your post is a joke right? And if it isn't
I think you should post it as often and in as many places as you can. If this IS real,
people need to see who is backing McCain/Palin. I was also wondering if you could tell me what language the bible was originaly written in, because if it is not english, dosn't that mean that we also translated it? And what year(s) was it written, because I just don't recall knowing the dates GOD sat down to dictate it to a MAN. It's 6:00 p.m. time to take your meds. (if this is real)

Posted by: jwald1 | September 10, 2008 5:59 PM | Report abuse

At lunch today I sat near a table of McCain voters talking politics. When the topic turned to Palin the discussion of issues completely stopped. Instead they evaluated her like piece of meat: Is she hot? Think that Palin bikini picture is real? Would you “do her” if you had the chance? Think McCain will do her? And so forth and so on. And yet I'm sure these same people are now posting comments here and elsewhere expressing their “outrage” about pigs and lipstick. What a joke.

Posted by: FellowTraveler | September 10, 2008 5:58 PM | Report abuse

I'll take a tree hugger any time over a drill here, drill now, drill everywhere, bunny killer and John Wayne McCain.

Posted by: alex | September 10, 2008 5:58 PM | Report abuse

JM wrote,
Sarah Palin likened herself to a vicious dog with lipstick, so even if Obama was referring to her (which he clearly wasn't) then he was being more generous than she was about herself.

Posted by: JM | September 10, 2008 5:50 PM

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A gentleman would not go there, no matter what she said.

we just got a look into the man's character, and I for one, don't like what I see.

I want a President to have Class.

Clearly, he showed he has none.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 5:57 PM | Report abuse

"This election has officially jumped the shark."

Posted by: Tirade | September 10, 2008 5:41 PM
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Indeed.

Earlier today I said, The McCain Campaign surely has jumped the shark with the lipstick gambit.

But, sure, the whole dang election has. It is now officially a joke.

Posted by: Fred D | September 10, 2008 5:56 PM | Report abuse

I think there will be a backlash to the feigned claim of sexism by McCain/Palin.

Men resent unfair sexism claims.

Posted by: Bill | September 10, 2008 5:56 PM | Report abuse

I'm truly amazed at the low level of discourse on The Fix's comment line. I guess that's because it's fully unmoderated and any message can be posted, whether remotely related to the topic or gratuitously insulting.

Folks, try the NY Times now and then--the comments sections are some of the best things on the website: generally on-point, intelligent and civil. Civility is something The Fix's comment section could use a little more of.

Posted by: Harry | September 10, 2008 5:55 PM | Report abuse

Wow Chris - you really hit a hot topic here!

Go Hoyas!

This election is almost over . . .

Posted by: sof99999 | September 10, 2008 5:55 PM | Report abuse

Polls

Obama is dropping like a rock in state polls.

Penn
Michigan
Nevada
Colorado

He HAS to win three out of four to win the election. 5-7% leads two weeks ago are down to 1% or less, with McCains lead in Ohio and Florida surging.

And they've had a TERRIBLE week this week.You LIBS gotta realize this is going to be the MAIN story through at least the Sunday talk shows.

If he does not carry both Michigan and Penn, party's over. Say Goodnight.

Posted by: dano | September 10, 2008 5:43 PM

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I LOVE your Gorilla math

lets look at the polls shall we?

MI- Obama 2.0 (has led for 3 months)
VI- McCain 2.6
NV- Obama (latest poll 5.0)
NH- Obama 3.3
NM- Obama 2.3
NV-Mccain 4.7
MO-Mccain 4.7
CO- Obama 3.0
FL- McCain 3.0
NC-McCain 4.0
OH- McCain 1.3
IA- Obama 9.0
MT-Mccain 9.0
OR-Obama 7.0
GA- Mccain 6.3
PA-Obama 4.0
WI-Obama 4.3
MN-Obama 4.7
NJ-Obama 8.7
WA-Obama 9.7
MS-Mccain 11.7

Electoral Map
Obama- 217
Mccain - 189

Now do the math from the states above and see who wins
OOPS!
Obama

Posted by: feastorafamine | September 10, 2008 5:54 PM | Report abuse

Anyone who thinks Obama's comment was meant to be sexist is a moron. He managed to land Michelle Obama (an intelligent woman) as his wife, somehow I doubt she views him as sexist. McCain used the EXACT SAME PHRASE against Hillary Clinton, why was there no uproar over that?

I hope to god women do not allow this to affect there vote, and if they do they probably shouldn't be voting in the first place. I'm glad I married an intelligent women that actually looks into the issues instead of being offended by this comment.

P.S. Anyone who thinks Hillary Clinton "deserved" the presidency obviously doesn't understand politics. Perhaps there should be an uproar because McCain picked Palin instead of Romney?

Posted by: Jim | September 10, 2008 5:53 PM | Report abuse

In the 90s we had peace and prosperity.

Look at what we've had with Bush. The only ones sorry to see him go will be the rich, the gullible, and the late-night comics. Four more years????

Posted by: Skeptic21 | September 10, 2008 5:45 PM

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In the 90's you had a President that looked the other way. One that didn't take out Bin laden when he had a chance.

we paid the price September 11th.

Keeping rooting for the Leftists, they will look out more for terrorists like Bin Laden and those in this country wanting to assist in terrorist attacks.

George Bush is a Principled man. That's what you libs don't get. That's why we conservatives love the guy. He stood up and did right to protect this country, no matter which way the wind blowed...which is what we had under Clinton, and will have on Obama. You can see it already, wavering on no tax increases, wavering on FISA.

Where will Obama go?

Which ever way the wind blows.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 5:52 PM | Report abuse

Steve Schultz is behind McCain's flip flop to the dark side. He is one of Rove's henchmen and has a satanic ability to fire up the base at any cost. Unfortunately I think it is going to work. John McCain has now lost my respect.
You can send him a message at johnmccain.com/contact and tell him to fire Steve Schultz -- the traitor who, like Rove, is destroying politics.

I can't understand why the media is not chasing and pinning this woman down! How are they letting the "Republic" party get away with this? Why sit on your hands and accept this Gibson interview? Talk about allowing yourself to be manipulated.

Posted by: Alex Farnsley | September 10, 2008 5:52 PM | Report abuse

Anonymous, yeah, maybe George Bush will be there to snort it with him.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 5:51 PM | Report abuse

This just in:

The National Association of Masochists, who provided the winning margin for George W. Bush during the last two elections, has overwhelmingly endorsed McCain/Palin. They look forward to four more years of war and recession.

Posted by: Skeptic21 | September 10, 2008 5:51 PM | Report abuse

S.C. Dem chair: Palin primary qualification is she hasn't had an abortion

Jonathan Martin
The Politico

South Carolina Democratic chairwoman Carol Fowler sharply attacked Sarah Palin today, saying John McCain had chosen a running mate "whose primary qualification seems to be that she hasn’t had an abortion.”

Palin is an opponent of abortion rights and gave birth to her fifth child, Trig, earlier this year after finding out during her pregnancy that the baby had Down syndrome.

Fowler told The Politico's Alex Burns in an interview that the selection of an opponent of abortion rights would not boost McCain among many women.

“Among Democratic women and even among independent women, I don’t think it helped him,” she said.

Told of McCain's boost in the new ABC/Washington Post among white women following the Palin pick, Fowler said: "Just anecdotally, I believe that those white women are Republican women anyway."

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Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 5:50 PM | Report abuse

Well BBQ'd McCain, I don't claim to understand either candidates tax policy and that's what I'm looking for answers on. I don't see how taxing those that make 250,000 or more will cover the programs that Obama wants to put into effect. So, my concern is that middle and upper middle class will be squeezed taxwise to pay for programs for the poor. That has pretty much been the mantra of community organizers in Chicago-redistribution of wealth. What I'm concerned about is that youngish couples, say 30-45 year olds, that both work and have a couple of kids and a huge mortgage will be forced to pay alot more than they're able to because in Obama speak, the 100,000 that they're pulling in qualifies them as rich. Age wise, I have alot of years on them and also wealth wise. Retirement is looming, including medicare and good planning in the retirement program so I'm not really personally worried but I am concerned about all the baby boomer's kids that have played by the rules and may get royally screwed by "wealth redistribution".

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 5:50 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin likened herself to a vicious dog with lipstick, so even if Obama was referring to her (which he clearly wasn't) then he was being more generous than she was about herself.

Posted by: JM | September 10, 2008 5:50 PM | Report abuse

Do any of you McCainiacs know what "double entendre" is. Probably not or you might realize you are being played. Obama just called your ticket smelly fish and pig, while maintaining plausible deniability in that he meant something else. And predictably, you yahoos will howl to high heaven and keep this alive as long as possible. In the end, when undecided voters hear "smelly old fish and pig" will they think of Obama or McCain/Palin.

Posted by: joebewildered | September 10, 2008 5:50 PM | Report abuse

I take it from the comments so far (or lack thereof) that folks would rather put their faith in Sarah Palin and hope that she doesn't bring about armageddon than dare ask her about this?

This is crazy - our nation is truly living on a wing and a prayer if the mainstream media can't ask Sarah Palin about this.

Posted by: Larry | September 10, 2008 5:49 PM | Report abuse

He does not owe her an apology since he did not even intend to direct it at Palin.

But I find it surprising that she and the GOP took such offense, obviously they believe there must be some truth in her being a pig since it is they who connected the dots.

Posted by: rcc_2000 | September 10, 2008 5:49 PM | Report abuse

For all the talk of his service and his days as a POW, John McCain has evolved into a man completely without honor.

Posted by: Steve O | September 10, 2008 5:48 PM | Report abuse

Obama clearly has shown this week that he is NOT ready to govern - he is cracking - I wonder if he will turn back to cocaine to alleviate his stress.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 5:42 PM

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I heard he's going through a pack of Kool Menthols a day lately.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 5:45 PM | Report abuse

You Obama supporters are very angry.
Wouldn't your time be better served helping him organize one of his communities? He's one step below Sharpton and Jackson.

Posted by: Jimmy C. | September 10, 2008 5:45 PM | Report abuse

Everyone but the die-hard Bushies are laughing at the McCain campaign on this one. They're trying so hard to change the subject from the issues, and for good reason.

In the 90s we had peace and prosperity.

Look at what we've had with Bush. The only ones sorry to see him go will be the rich, the gullible, and the late-night comics. Four more years????

Posted by: Skeptic21 | September 10, 2008 5:45 PM | Report abuse

Obama is a SEXIST AND RACIST AGAINST WHITE PEOPLE.


WHY WOULD ANYONE EXPECT ANY DIFFERENT BEHAVIOR FROM HIM?


HE HAS ALLOWED HIS PAID STAFF BLOGGERS TO SAY THE UGLIEST THINGS ABOUT SARAH PALIN AND NOW HE WANTS TO STOP IT?


AFTER HE HAS HAD HIS SHOT AT HER?


OBAMA HAS SHOWN HIS TRUE COLORS - UNFIT FOR OFFICE - UNFIT FOR WASHINGTON - UNFIT FOR ANY COMMON DECENCY.

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Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 5:43 PM | Report abuse

Polls

Obama is dropping like a rock in state polls.

Penn
Michigan
Nevada
Colorado

He HAS to win three out of four to win the election. 5-7% leads two weeks ago are down to 1% or less, with McCains lead in Ohio and Florida surging.

And they've had a TERRIBLE week this week.You LIBS gotta realize this is going to be the MAIN story through at least the Sunday talk shows.

If he does not carry both Michigan and Penn, party's over. Say Goodnight.

Posted by: dano | September 10, 2008 5:43 PM | Report abuse

Basementfrog,

Hey frog time to evolve into thinking for a change rather than being an Obama bot.

Obama’s not making a big deal about his tax cut since he does not know how he is going to fund them. Obama’s got no economic plan to speak up other than magically saving money here and there (no real specifics…lots of theoretical saving…its kind of like his experience). However, I am sure you know Obama’s numbers are real and you know he knows about budgets especially since he was a Community Organizer.

Today the lowest 40 percent of income earners as a group actually receive net payments from the federal income tax system. (They get 3.8 percent of total federal income tax revenues instead of paying any income taxes.) Let’s do the math that means about 120 million people in this country don’t pay taxes, which is why they will not receive any tax breaks from the R.

Your silly comment
“McCain's tax cut plan would provide no new direct relief to 100 million households, but would give a $4 billion tax cut to Exxon Mobil (which recently posted a $40 billion profit) and other big oil companies.”

I am assuming you mean people and not households since as of 2000 the USA only had about 105 million households and its projected to reach 115 million by 2010. Why is ExxonMobil getting tax cut (actually its tax break for research that all companies receive) maybe because all companies get them now. Since you are so knowledgeable please provide the data on your numbers.

Posted by: sltiowa | September 10, 2008 5:43 PM | Report abuse

Ah yes. After Obama paused and then made the reference to "lipstick on a pig", his supporters jumped to their feet and yelled in support of the reference to Palin. Within days of Palin referring to "lipstick" and hockey moms, Obama just happened to use this other metaphor? Ya, right. Obama was caught and is trying the old "the best defense is a good offense".

It is clear that the progressives (radical leftists ) and liberal members of the media, the Democratic Party, and bloggers are seriously concerned by someone they call, unprepared and unqualified for the Vice Presidency, while their own ticket goes down in flames.

Posted by: rljmsilver | September 10, 2008 5:42 PM | Report abuse

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Obama clearly has shown this week that he is NOT ready to govern - he is cracking - I wonder if he will turn back to cocaine to alleviate his stress.

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Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 5:42 PM | Report abuse

McCain and Palin are LIARS. It's okay to lie about their resumes and lie to smear Obama, but "oh, no!" Outrage!

You can put lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig. McCain/Palin=Bush/Cheney. If you want four more years of hell, go ahead and vote for those clowns.

Posted by: Leila | September 10, 2008 5:41 PM | Report abuse

This election has officially jumped the shark.

Posted by: Tirade | September 10, 2008 5:41 PM | Report abuse

I believe that just about says it - there is a complete lack of common decency at the Obama campaign - reflected in the paid staff bloggers - and this reveals that Obama displays lack of common decency.


What kind of human being would unleash an ugly band of savages to say the things which have been said this week about the Governor of Alaska?


This is bordering on uncivilized behavior - no decency - no respect for anyone - just angry people still angry about the Jim Crow era.

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Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 5:41 PM | Report abuse

To all of the Palin supporters out there, I understand why she might be an appealing choice. But does anyone really understand her theological beliefs? From what I can tell, she believes in the end of times prophecy and her pastor believes the end of days is happening now. What should happen to all of us if she gets her hands on the nuclear codes? Does she believe her role is to precipitate the end of days? Will she start WWIII? Folks, we can have all of the conversations we want about race, religion, the economy, pigs, etc. But if we are not here, it won't matter. We should be terrified of this woman.

Here is a summary of an article from the The Times (UK) today on this subject and a link to the full article.

At the Wasilla Assembly of God Church, Sarah Palin’s former pastor sees powerful signs that the end of the world is nigh.

Pastor Ed Kalnins cites conflict in the Middle East, America’s dependence on foreign oil and the depletion of energy reserves as evidence that “storm clouds are gathering”. He told The Times: “Scripture specifically mentions oil instability as a sign of the Rapture. We’re seeing more and more oil wars. The contractions of the fulfilment of prophecies are getting tighter and tighter.”

He declined to set an exact date for the Rapture, or the “End of Days” – the belief in a time when Jesus will return, raising up believers to Heaven and leaving the wicked to be ruled by the Antichrist – but hopes it will be in his lifetime. “I’m looking out the window and I can see it’s going to rain,” he said. “I’m just looking at the turmoil of the world, Iraq, other places – everywhere people are fighting against Christ.”

Link to full article below:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections/article4720440.ece

Posted by: Concerned American | September 10, 2008 5:40 PM | Report abuse

"It's a sound strategy...." Please, Chris. Who are you kidding? Don't ask your readers to suspend their disbelief by assessing this as a noble strategy of some sort. This is nothing more than low-blow distraction politics, Lee Atwater stuff. Stop trying to dignify it's as strategy when it's base pandering, nothing more.

Posted by: Teth | September 10, 2008 5:39 PM | Report abuse

"That said, it may not matter what Obama meant (or, in this case, didn't mean) to say as, in politics, perception matters more than reality."

What an incredible load of crap. If the media were willing to tell the truth, that this was a made up controversy and that McCain should be ashamed for trying to mislead the media and the public then THIS WOULD NOT BE THE PERCEPTION.

You all KNOW -- and you even SAID -- Obama didn't mean that, and yet it still gets reported on as a problem for Obama.

You are reporting this as "McCain understands the politics of perception" instead of "McCain is peddling garbage".

Let's do this the right way, and the "politics of perception" wouldn't be as ridiculous as it is.

Posted by: Bullpucky | September 10, 2008 5:38 PM | Report abuse

McCain can't win on issues. It's sad to see the old fellow dishonor himself.

Posted by: rick | September 10, 2008 5:37 PM | Report abuse

Obama is a SEXIST AND RACIST AGAINST WHITE PEOPLE.


WHY WOULD ANYONE EXPECT ANY DIFFERENT BEHAVIOR FROM HIM?


HE HAS ALLOWED HIS PAID STAFF BLOGGERS TO SAY THE UGLIEST THINGS ABOUT SARAH PALIN AND NOW HE WANTS TO STOP IT?


AFTER HE HAS HAD HIS SHOT AT HER?


OBAMA HAS SHOWN HIS TRUE COLORS - UNFIT FOR OFFICE - UNFIT FOR WASHINGTON - UNFIT FOR ANY COMMON DECENCY.


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Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 5:36 PM | Report abuse

I guess you can put lipstick on a pig and stupid people would still vote for it and call it Mccain-Palin. Wow!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 5:36 PM | Report abuse

Lets talk about ANYTHING but this with 55 days to go till the election............

Gov. Palin:
Raised taxes as the Gov. of Alaska

Misled America about the Bridge to Nowhere, in her first national speech (She fully supported it and only denounced it after the funding was cut anyhow) and continues to do so as many as four times a day on the campaign stump. She never returned the funds for the Bridge to Nowhere.

A 2006 question to Governor Palin …”Would you continue state funding for the proposed Knik Arm and Gravina Island bridges?”
Answer: “Yes. I would like to see Alaska's infrastructure projects built sooner rather than later. The window is now - while our congressional delegation is in a strong position to assist.”

Wants to teach creationism in Science Class, subverting the US Constitution

Tried to get books banned at the local library

Fired her entire staff 10 days into term as mayor, for lack of loyalty

Used every available lever to get an enemy fired from his job, and is still lying about it

Put a gag order on her administration as mayor of a town of 6500

Milked the Federal Government for huge series of earmarks, by using Jack Abramoff lobbyists. The highest per capita earmarker in the nation: Palin (27 Million for a town of 6500)

Charged 52 earmarks valued at $256 million in her first year as Alaska Governor and 31 earmarks valued at $197 million this year. Considerably HIGHER than Barrack Obama’s Earmark list he released in March of 2008 in the spirit of transparency.

Billed taxpayers in Alaska $43,490 for staying in her own home.

Touts the need to address special needs children but only did so by stepping in at the last minute to support a bill that she was chided for NOT supporting previously despite her sister having a child with autism.

Doesn’t believe in Global Warming

Used Alaska First as her campaign slogan, which is the same one as her husband’s old party, the AIP, a secessionist organization she recorded a supportive piece for this year! She was also the keynote speaker for AIP on several occasions and her husband was an ardent supporter and member of AIP.

The AIP founder Joe Voglar once stated, “I'm an Alaskan, not an American. I've got no use for America or her damned institutions." and "The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government. And I won't be buried under their damn flag. I'll be buried in Dawson. And when Alaska is an independent nation they can bring my bones home."

Wants to ban stem cell research

Is on the record stating the Iraq war ”Is a task from God.”

In July when interviewed about the possibility of being the VP she stated that she did not know what the VP did.
Subsequently has been sequestered and hidden from the media until an appropriate time in which she has been provided with the answers to any potential questions the press may have with under two months left in till the election. Why not let her speak RIGHT NOW? Perhaps because she doesn’t know what to say or worse still she does know what to say and we will not like it.

Left her town Mayoralty with a huge debt, having outspent all around in her (21 MILION in debt)

And, perhaps worst of all, Palin would insist that my 14 daughter carry and birth a rapist’s child


Does anyone else find it utterly amazing, mind numbing and surreal that the republicans are running on a change platform borrowed from Obama to storm their own castle??!! Repub chant...."We suck, We Suck but NOW Were Different." This cranky guy cant even operate the internet to read your opinion. But change is coming......ya right like what more trickle down economics, fear mongering, politicizing 9/11 and questioning patriotism? Privatizing anything and everything to line the pockets of your friends? Lying repeatedly to the American people, 3 TRILLION in debt and POOF! A new republican party!!!! transformed from the last eight years and catapulted into the future! Yippeee like Slim Pickens riding the bomb through the sky in Dr Strangelove. Hello Joe McCarthy is that you? Mr. McCarthy would be proud. So would David Blaine. Abracadabra!!

Posted by: feastorafamine | September 10, 2008 5:35 PM | Report abuse

These people make me sick. Sick!


Willfully lying to the American people because we should be less concerned with the truth and "little facts" than with the fact that Sarah Palin is a chick, and that's really hip and cool and new (if you're a Republican and you slept through 1984).


I suppose the absence of any WMD in Iraq is a "little fact."


I suppose Bush's AWOL years in the National Guard is a "little fact."


I suppose the substance of Cheney's secret meetings with the energy companies is a "little fact."


I suppose McCain's flip-flopping and lying on every position is a "little fact."


I suppose the (in)effectiveness of the surge is a "little fact."


Well, here's a great big fact:


They're still gonna lose in November!

Posted by: Rene Lee | September 10, 2008 5:34 PM | Report abuse

You can send out a press release, however a racist who went to a Church which is racist against white people, is still a racist who is racist against white people.

same thing.


Obama should be called out.


Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 5:33 PM | Report abuse

Keep exposing them for what they're doing Obama!

Posted by: Obama2008 | September 10, 2008 5:33 PM | Report abuse

Could we stop this crap about pigs? McCain used the same joke about Hillary, and no uproar. Obama uses the same joke about MCCAIN AND NOT PALIN, and the crowd goes nuts!

I get it now, this campaign is going to be about crap, not issues.

People, please come back to earth and discuss issues!!!

Posted by: SPENCER | September 10, 2008 5:33 PM | Report abuse

The media should be as ashamed as the McCain campaign for focusing on this trivial tripe and allowing yet another election to be determined by anything but actual issues.

Posted by: jgeeh | September 10, 2008 5:33 PM | Report abuse

I guess you can't teach on old dog new tricks... Oh no, did I just insult John McCain??? Should I issue a press release and apologize???

Posted by: Jane | September 10, 2008 5:32 PM | Report abuse

I will vote for the candidate who can bring home the bacon, who won't hog the headlines, and who isn't a dipstick.
Yes John McCain.

Posted by: Bubba Frank | September 10, 2008 5:32 PM | Report abuse

A lot of you McCain supporters are pretty effing stupid.

Posted by: Seriously? | September 10, 2008 5:32 PM | Report abuse

So John McCain plans to single handedly create an alternative energy source that is as readily available and cheaper than oil? While at the same time "John McCain's policies will increase the value of the dollar... [and] Americans will have a stronger economy... and greater purchasing power"?

My god, John McCain is the next Houdini. Unfortunately this is exactly what the republicans are complaining about, all talk, no substance. Take a look at your candidate before bashing another party's.
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"John McCain believes we should send a strong message to world markets. Under his plan, the United States will be telling oil producing countries and oil speculators that our dependence on foreign oil will come to an end - and the impact will be lower prices at the pump.

John McCain's policies will increase the value of the dollar and thus reduce the price of oil. In recent years, the declining value of the dollar has added to the cost of imported oil. This will change. Americans will have a stronger economy, a stronger dollar and greater purchasing power for oil, gas and food."
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Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 5:32 PM | Report abuse

Thank Kathy, for pointing out that this election should be about the issues, and what policies the candidates should propose to improve our country.

So uhhh what does McCain actually have any ideas for doing anything in the next 4 years?!

Posted by: BBQ'd McCain | September 10, 2008 5:31 PM | Report abuse

Larry Craig wrote,
"At the Wasilla Assembly of God Church, Sarah Palin’s former pastor sees powerful signs that the end of the world is nigh. "

What part of the word FORMER that you don’t understand??? Obama keep accusing McCain of having FORMER lobbyist on his camp. No wonder both of you are still dems because you guys don’t understand the word “FORMER”! Why do you think I am a FORMER Democrat???

Posted by: Former democrat | September 10, 2008 5:30 PM | Report abuse

I'm sure this has already been pointed out, but I don't think it can be stressed enough in this benighted campaign season: the McCain campaign couldn't succeed in ginning up these fake controversies without the indulgence of the Washington press corps. These little ads are dog-whistles for the press; they're using you just as Rove and the swift-boat group did in the past two campaigns. Why do you continue to take the bait?

Posted by: Amanda | September 10, 2008 5:29 PM | Report abuse

Dano
A Gentleman would not have done this. He may have thought of the line, but he should have passed on it.

Clearly not a Gentlemenly thing to say to a woman, and he will pay the price with Millions of voters this week.

Posted by: dano | September 10, 2008 5:25 PM

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Yes this week will be the Post convention Bounce-Bounce, and possibly bounce-bounce-bounce if we can get Biden to say something stupid ( he's overdue ) .

I am looking forward to seeing the tears in Odorman's eyes on election night.

Obama looks bad. The guy needs to go back to Hawaii and shut up for a few days. That's the best thing he did for his numbers.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 5:29 PM | Report abuse

Good God, this controversy that the McCain camp has manufactured beats all for sheer idiocy -- as though Sarah Palin now has a personal copyright on the use of the word "lipstick."

It would be funny if the stakes weren't so high -- and if it wasn't just one more in a pattern of irresponsible lies now being churned out in the Rethuglicans' desperation to win at all costs.

I'm sorry. I used to at least respect John McCain and an authentic patriot, but now the way he conducts his campaign shows him to be a man without honor.

Posted by: editrix | September 10, 2008 5:29 PM | Report abuse

Anyone with any iota of critical analysis skills can see McCain is the pig and Palin is the lipstick. Anybody for bacon?

Posted by: joebewildered | September 10, 2008 5:29 PM | Report abuse

I am amazed at the really stupid people who continue to put out this muslim story.

The truth is McCain is not only a sympathizer with the Bin Laden family, he help orchestrate their exit from the U.S. after 911.

He then work continuously to keep the army off track while Osama bin Laden slipped away.

McCain is a coward and traitor. He will always be one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MUY9S6iCvk

And his VP pick is a suversive who has worked to separate Alaska from the union.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwvPNXYrIyI

Secession party 6 months ago. 7 year membership

A coward traitor and a commie secessionist...you go republicans.

You have the right ticket.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 5:28 PM | Report abuse

Well after reading this article, I would rather be called a "Pig with lipstick" than a "Republican".

Posted by: Hog wild for Palin | September 10, 2008 5:26 PM | Report abuse

Basement frog, since around 50% don't pay federal income taxes, be more specific. What happens to a married couple with the husband making 60.000 and the wife making 30,000? What happens to the grown kid making 70,000 with the elderly parents that have passed on leaving him 200 acres of farm land? What happens to the school teacher that makes 65,000? And exactly who is going to pay for other people's kids to go to college and how much? Americans need specifics in order to make educated choices in the upcoming election.

Posted by: Kathy | September 10, 2008 5:26 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin's invoking "God" on behalf of Big Oil http://nz.youtube.com/watch?v=4Q9MMJESywA&feature=related is exactly the technique Adolph Hitler employed invoking "God" on behalf of the Roman Catholic catechism to commit genocide against the Jews...that's why America's Founders included in The Creed Annuit Coeptis, Novus Ordo Seclorem, and E Pluribus Unum.

Our New Secular Order means to stop sectarian factionalism from destroying The Republic. Whether "Divine Right of Kings,""Urbis et Orbis" of papal "infallibility," or Big Oil buying a small-town "Barracuda" sociopathic lying hypocrite who thinks Bush is anything but a homosexual, 8/11-committing draft-dodger, the Public Square is not the place to invoke the Deity...other than pointing out known murdering, lying, traitor perverts like the Bushes and Rome's Fifth Column Sarah Palin now, and Hitler then, serves.

http://www.theamericanfundament.blogspot.com

Posted by: Will Jones - Atlanta | September 10, 2008 5:26 PM | Report abuse

Please do not think I'm turning this into a racial issue because I'm not, but the Republicans' reaction to Obama's comments remind me of the lynch mob who killed Emmitt Till, the 14-year-old Black boy who whistled at a white woman in the south and was pulled from his uncle's home and murdered because of it.

Senator Obama made a comment that John McCain and others have made before. Yet, because he said it -- not even in reference to Sara Palin, this "Barbie doll on a pedestal," the Republicans have come out with their ropes to hang him.

Thankfully, not everybody is going to take part in the lynching.

Posted by: luvmynaturalhair | September 10, 2008 5:26 PM | Report abuse

I just love it! The Dems have been bashing crusty old white guys for years and now they don't know what to do. Hillary didn’t know
what to do with Obama and Obama doesn’t know what to do with Sarah. Time to start walking the politically correct tight rope suckers! It's about time the Republicans gave the Dems a taste of their own medicine! LOL!!!!!!! I'll be right here clinging to my religion and my guns.

Posted by: Jerry H. | September 10, 2008 5:25 PM | Report abuse


Wyte,
The Republicans have lipstick on their face over this one. Funny enough, it was the GOP who is calling Sarah a pig. Everyone knows that phrase has been said many times - even by both McCain and Obama!

Posted by: WyteFyre | September 10, 2008 5:18 PM

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You're ignoring the obvious Wyte. Palin recently said this and it got a lot of play.

He was snidely directing it at her.

You saw / heard the reaction from the audience.

A Gentleman would not have done this. He may have thought of the line, but he should have passed on it.

Clearly not a Gentlemenly thing to say to a woman, and he will pay the price with Millions of voters this week.

Posted by: dano | September 10, 2008 5:25 PM | Report abuse

Skeptic21 wrote,
"Go ahead, be honest for a change. Obama didn't say it or mean it, but it's a pretty good description of Mr. Magoo and Sarah Pain."

Under what rock have you been all this time? What he said is well documented and shown on TV many times. I totally agree with you about Sarah been a Pain – to the Dems! Ever since she surfaced, Obama has been going down hill. You guys pay for your brilliant candidate for not picking Hillary for VP.

Posted by: Former democrat | September 10, 2008 5:25 PM | Report abuse

Does it concern anyone that Sarah Palin, who is a believer of the end of days prophecy, may get her hands on the nuclear codes?

From today's Times (UK) - September 10, 2008

At the Wasilla Assembly of God Church, Sarah Palin’s former pastor sees powerful signs that the end of the world is nigh.

Pastor Ed Kalnins cites conflict in the Middle East, America’s dependence on foreign oil and the depletion of energy reserves as evidence that “storm clouds are gathering”. He told The Times: “Scripture specifically mentions oil instability as a sign of the Rapture. We’re seeing more and more oil wars. The contractions of the fulfilment of prophecies are getting tighter and tighter.”

He declined to set an exact date for the Rapture, or the “End of Days” – the belief in a time when Jesus will return, raising up believers to Heaven and leaving the wicked to be ruled by the Antichrist – but hopes it will be in his lifetime. “I’m looking out the window and I can see it’s going to rain,” he said. “I’m just looking at the turmoil of the world, Iraq, other places – everywhere people are fighting against Christ.”

Link to full article below:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections/article4720440.ece

Posted by: Larry Craig | September 10, 2008 5:24 PM | Report abuse

If O'Bama can use the "P" word, can those who so choose now use the "N" word? If the bars regarding propriety and good taste are now lifted, I guess "eomcmars" would not object. After all, "a rose by any other name....etc".
O'Bama is turning into the old Biden. Turn him loose and watch the fireworks.
I love it.

Posted by: foxborough | September 10, 2008 5:24 PM | Report abuse

JaxMax wrote:
OBAMA INJECTS MUSLIM THEMED SLUR "LIPSTICK ON A PIG"
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Go ahead, spread your absolutely hateful lies. The only people who would fall for them are too dumb to find their way to a polling place.

Everyone, please note the kind of people who are supporting McCain and what they are willing to do to get him elected.

Posted by: Skeptic21 | September 10, 2008 5:23 PM | Report abuse

OBAMA INJECTS MUSLIM THEMED SLUR "LIPSTICK ON A PIG"

Obama's lipstick on a pig comment--documented on his teleprompter-- is much more than just a sexist slur.

It is a deeply rooted Muslim slur.

Obama was indoctinated in Muslim theology from birth. His Mother twice married Muslim men, voluntarily embracing their worldview.

Obama was further indoctrinated in Muslim schools.

And ask yourself, If schools can't indoctrinate children with religion, why does the US prohibit religion in our schools?

Obama admitted in a freudian slip on ABC Sunday his "Muslim faith", which the "neutral journalist" quickly correct FOR Obama.

Obama says he is a Christian, but denies he ever listened to his Pastor's sermons etc....

So Gov. Palin is a fundamentalist Christian who Obama, with a strong Muslim indoctrination, compares to a pig--highly disdained in Muslim theology.

Posted by: JaxMax | September 10, 2008 5:23 PM | Report abuse


the GOP knows that McCain is the pig and Sarah is the lipstick.

Posted by: basementfrog | September 10, 2008 5:21 PM | Report abuse

OBAMA INJECTS MUSLIM THEMED SLUR "LIPSTICK ON A PIG"

Obama's lipstick on a pig comment--documented on his teleprompter-- is much more than just a sexist slur.

It is a deeply rooted Muslim slur.

Obama was indoctinated in Muslim theology from birth. His Mother twice married Muslim men, voluntarily embracing their worldview.

Obama was further indoctrinated in Muslim schools.

And ask yourself, If schools can't indoctrinate children with religion, why does the US prohibit religion in our schools?

Obama admitted in a freudian slip on ABC Sunday his "Muslim faith", which the "neutral journalist" quickly correct FOR Obama.

Obama says he is a Christian, but denies he ever listened to his Pastor's sermons etc....

So Gov. Palin is a fundamentalist Christian who Obama, with a strong Muslim indoctrination, compares to a pig--highly disdained in Muslim theology.

Posted by: JaxMax | September 10, 2008 5:16 PM

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LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And Paris Hilton is causing global warming.
This is by far one of the most ignorant postings i have ever seen on a blog and i have seen my share of them.

You sir are a slur

Posted by: feastorafamine | September 10, 2008 5:20 PM | Report abuse

Ahh yes JaxMax, why don't you go grab your gun and head off to Iraq and Afghanistan, there may be some Muslims over there you can talk to about the Republican worldview. I am sure they would appreciate your opinions and conversation.

Posted by: Gotta love the Republican Hate | September 10, 2008 5:19 PM | Report abuse

Anonymous wrote,
"Did you hear Biden today telling a State Senator from MO to get up...repeatedly... at a rally today.

Someone had to tell the Biden that the gentleman was handicapped and in a wheel chair."

Are we surprised? Good old Joe is raising his foot too close to his mouth!

Posted by: Former democrat | September 10, 2008 5:19 PM | Report abuse

ARE YOU KIDDING ABOUT A SHRED OF MORALS THAT McCAIN MAY HAVE HAD. HE NEVER HAD A SHRED

McCain likes to illustrate his moral fiber by referring to his five years as a prisoner-of-war in Vietnam and to demonstrate his commitment to family values. The truth is somewhat different.

The first Mrs McCain casts is the mother to McCain’s three eldest children. Carol, who was a famous beauty and a successful swimwear model when they married in 1965, was the woman McCain dreamed of during his long incarceration and torture in Vietnam’s infamous ‘Hanoi Hilton’ prison and the woman who faithfully stayed at home looking after the children and waiting anxiously for news.

But when McCain returned to America in 1973, he discovered his wife had been disfigured in a terrible car crash three years earlier. Her pelvis and one arm were shattered and she suffered massive internal injuries. In order to save her legs, surgeons had been forced to cut away huge sections of shattered bone, taking with it her tall, willowy figure. She was confined to a wheelchair and was forced to use a catheter.

When John McCain came home from Vietnam, she had gained a lot of weight and bore little resemblance to her old self. ‘My marriage ended because John McCain didn’t want to be 40, he wanted to be 25. You know that happens...it just does.’

Some of McCain’s acquaintances are less forgiving, however. They portray the politician as a self-centered womanizer who effectively abandoned his crippled wife to ‘play the field’. They accuse him of finally settling on Cindy, a former rodeo beauty queen, for financial reasons. McCain was then earning little more than $40,000 a year as a naval officer, while his new father-in-law, Jim Hensley, was a multi-millionaire who had impeccable political connections.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MUY9S6iCvk


View here what real vets say about McShame.

Posted by: basementfrgo | September 10, 2008 5:19 PM | Report abuse

Obama-- He can snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

Posted by: JaxMax | September 10, 2008 5:18 PM | Report abuse

"Anonymous" wrote:

Heck, if I were being honest, the guy is clearly saying Old Fish/Pig '08.
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Go ahead, be honest for a change. Obama didn't say it or mean it, but it's a pretty good description of Mr. Magoo and Sarah Pain.

Posted by: Skeptic21 | September 10, 2008 5:18 PM | Report abuse

The Republicans have lipstick on their face over this one. Funny enough, it was the GOP who is calling Sarah a pig. Everyone knows that phrase has been said many times - even by both McCain and Obama!

Posted by: WyteFyre | September 10, 2008 5:18 PM | Report abuse

The politics of perception? The politics of idioscrasy I would say. The latest antics of John McCain and the Republican party is pathetic and desperate. The media should note this. The man used a parable or analogy that has been used time and time again in politics. Yet, McCain's desperate and venomous lies about its intentional insult of his pitifully unqualified and reliously fanatic VP choice is lauded by the journalist. Perhaps it is because Palin has a C average degree in journalism.

Posted by: thetruthshallsetyoufree | September 10, 2008 5:17 PM | Report abuse

OBAMA INJECTS MUSLIM THEMED SLUR "LIPSTICK ON A PIG"

Obama's lipstick on a pig comment--documented on his teleprompter-- is much more than just a sexist slur.

It is a deeply rooted Muslim slur.

Obama was indoctinated in Muslim theology from birth. His Mother twice married Muslim men, voluntarily embracing their worldview.

Obama was further indoctrinated in Muslim schools.

And ask yourself, If schools can't indoctrinate children with religion, why does the US prohibit religion in our schools?

Obama admitted in a freudian slip on ABC Sunday his "Muslim faith", which the "neutral journalist" quickly correct FOR Obama.

Obama says he is a Christian, but denies he ever listened to his Pastor's sermons etc....

So Gov. Palin is a fundamentalist Christian who Obama, with a strong Muslim indoctrination, compares to a pig--highly disdained in Muslim theology.

Posted by: JaxMax | September 10, 2008 5:16 PM | Report abuse

"lipstick on a pig" is a variation on "a rose by any other name is still a rose." anyone too stupid to know that shouldn't be wasting the rest of our time by posting idiotic comments about how "lipstick" makes Obama some sort of sexist pig. maybe they should instead be looking at some of the reported racist comments made by Saint Sarah.

Posted by: eomcmars | September 10, 2008 5:16 PM | Report abuse

Perception is reality and many Americans will be distracted on those issues I concur with the writer. REality is that Mc Same is more of the lovely George W. years and that he is so old he is working on his bucket list final entries. Palin was a great distraction tactic by the usual puppet master now running Mc Sames campaign Karl Rove. In these final seven weeks let us pray that the American public comes out of the mental fog and actually looks at the issues: The economy, two wars, health care, energy independence and then makes the informed and correct choice OBAMA BIDEN! Obama will need to find his voice again and keep up the ENOUGH comments with passion. America will respond and do the right thing by electing him President. No Way No How No Mc SAme Palin!!

Posted by: LTC JOSEPH MC MULLEN US ARMY RET | September 10, 2008 5:16 PM | Report abuse

The best-kept secret in this presidential campaign is Barack Obama's substantial package of middle class tax cuts--most political junkies can't even tell you what's in it and most working-class swing voters don't even know it exists.

Indeed, those voters would be shocked to discover that, according to independent analyses, Obama is offering 80% of Americans four times as much in tax relief as McCain on average.

The next best-kept secret of the campaign, and arguably the biggest mystery, is why has Team Obama seemingly been hiding this electoral haymaker? Even worse, why have they been letting their opponents con the American people into thinking that Obama will raise taxes on the middle class while McCain will lower them--a damaging line of attack that is demonstrably false?

For example, I bet you did not know that:
--Obama would provide an immediate $1,000 tax cut to 95% of working families.
--Obama would eliminate income taxes altogether on seniors earning less than $50,000.

--Obama would more than double the Hope tax credit for college, up to $4,000 and make it fully refundable.

--Obama would eliminate all capital gains taxes on small business start-ups.
--Obama would not raise income, payroll, capital gains or any other taxes on any family making less than $250,000.

--McCain's tax cut plan would provide no new direct relief to 100 million households, but would give a $4 billion tax cut to Exxon Mobil (which recently posted a $40 billion profit) and other big oil companies.

The McCain plan for health insurance and privatization of schools would add a terrible burden on families who would be required to pay for these costs themselves. Corporate America is getting out of the business of providing health insurance to employees. McCain’s promise: vouchers. Are you kidding? How long will a voucher program last? Until another republican president comes in and does away with them.

Under McCain the average American family would be strapped with an additional $20,000 to $40,000 in annual costs for education and health insurance.

Posted by: basementfrog | September 10, 2008 5:14 PM | Report abuse

No worries my Republican friends. I am not sure what you plan to misconstrue next, but I am sure McCain or Palin (once she has memorized all of her speeches...err mid October) will say something off the cuff that was not so great. I can still picture McCain squirming like a 7 year old when he was asked about birth-control, or the fact that he can't remember how many houses he owns, or how he doesn't remember telling a joke about women being raped at a fundraiser.

I'm afraid the McCain of 2000 has alzheimers and is now being force-fed his campaigns of lies and hate by someone else (I sense the presence of Karl Rove).

Wait a sec didn't McCain originally call for a campaign period featuring "strong and honest debate on the issues." Oops, I guess he has forgotten about that as well.

Posted by: McCain is more desperate than Palin hunting Moose | September 10, 2008 5:14 PM | Report abuse

Will Jane-Swifted become a verb?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 5:14 PM | Report abuse


Some idiot wrote
If white women are going to vote for McCain and the Palins because the best candidate is a black man, they deserve 200 years of humiliation.

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He's BLACK? Here I thought all along he was half and half? Glad I am voting McCain.
Ridiculous statement

Posted by: Palinpower | September 10, 2008 5:13 PM | Report abuse

It's no wonder that McCain wants to talk about pigs and lipstick. Look at recent history:

90's = Democratic control, peace, prosperity, international respect, budget surpluses

00's = Republican control, unnecessary war, economic downturn, international isolation and disrespect, budget deficits

Do you think McSame wants to talk about issues? No, it's Lipstick and Pigs! Lipstick and Pigs!!!

Posted by: Skeptic21 | September 10, 2008 5:12 PM | Report abuse

Republican candidates for the presidency can simply lie through their teeth, and it is a good thing, because the ability to affect the narrative via a repeated lie is much more useful than any possible blowback for telling that lie?


Then what do we have elections for? If I can simply stand up and say "so-and-so's tax policy will cost you all one million dollars each," when it won't, or "so-and-so is a supporter of infanticide," when he isn't, or "so-and-so wants to show your children dirty pictures," when it's not true, or "I was against this bad thing" when we've got freakin' film of you supporting it -- what's the point? It is impossible to have a democracy without informed voters, and it is impossible to have informed voters when you are going out of your way to lie to them.


Crooks. That's the only word for it. There's no noble or higher purpose here, there's nothing admirable about it, not even in the most brutal, Machiavellian sense. They're liars. They're crooks. It is taken as a Republican given that anything that can gain power is justifiable, regardless of how loathsome it is or how depraved the fabrication.


If we welcome open, direct lies into our political discourse, it's not political discourse anymore -- just the oratorical equivalent of an organized crime ring. McCain knows he can lie through his teeth and almost nobody will truly call him out on it -- at least, not compared to all the people who will hear the lie. That's been the strategy for every election involving the old Nixonites, from then until now, and there's no chance it's going to go away until there is a price to be paid for being a nationally televised liar. So when's that going to be?....Corporate Media, are you going to stick your heads in the sand and let the Rethuglicans lie to America again like you did on Iraq?

Posted by: Bush + McCain = "W"orthless | September 10, 2008 5:11 PM | Report abuse

This is stupid!

Why can't we get a separate personality contest show to vote for. This is the presidency, and who we want handling issues. What the heck do you mean people are voting based on personality?! That makes NO sense to me.

I'll give benefit of the doubt that these people aren't voting solely on personality. Nope, not when asked personality vs issues and they chose personality. Are they the ones who gave us Bush? This isn't about who will look good in the White House. Can they not comprehend problems? Can we get a poll on the background of these people? I want to know what their current persepective is on state of this nation. What kind of stuff is this? This definitely doesn't fit in my personal category of "common sense," for sure.

Posted by: Obama2008 | September 10, 2008 5:09 PM | Report abuse

A "truth squad" headed by Jane SWIFT? You must be joking! Any shred of honor or decency McCain once had is GONE!

Posted by: rick | September 10, 2008 5:07 PM | Report abuse

Sit back, don't say a word and let them run themselves into a ditch

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 5:02 PM

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Did you hear Biden today telling a State Senator from MO to get up...repeatedly... at a rally today.

Someone had to tell the Biden that the gentleman was handicapped and in a wheel chair.

I am so glad Obama didn't pick Hillary!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 5:05 PM | Report abuse

Honestly, when does this end?

If you really, truly analyze the disintegration of this presidential race from one that held promise as an ethical, fair fight to one that falls to the basest level imaginable, the largest amount of blame falls on the media.

These are two candidates who, while they would certainly have gone on the offensive, might have waged a campaign that focused primarily on issues. Instead, they are fed blood by a news structure that thrives on bloodsport.

No politician is blameless, but no individual is above the forces that shape the public dialogue. The primary forces that shape that dialogue, along with the candidates' own individual strategies, are interest groups and the media. The media takes a comment like Obama's "lipstick" reference, or ths issue of Palin's daughter's pregnancy, and just throws it out there until it catches. Of course the candidates and their message machines have a hand in this, and they provide the "outraged" reactions, but the media is the catalyst.

And yet, for a medium that purports to be objective, the news media reflexively dismisses its role in the demise of a civil campaign.

It is all so frustrating. And the fact that it is having such a profound impact on this election is disheartening.

Every person reading this, ask yourselves: when does it end? When does the dialogue return to one of thoughtful discourse, of forceful, yet respectful disagreement about policy? When does civic discourse stop being perceived as naive and out of touch with reality, as it is so often portrayed?

Then answer that question: only when we make it stop. Demand accountability for issues, not comments or family situations. It will make us all stronger.

Posted by: Dana | September 10, 2008 5:04 PM | Report abuse

Hey Tslingit...I'm Indian too, but my tribe actually has some experience living, working, and loving black folks...its sad when I see Indians with just as little experience with black folk sound just as racist and stupid as all those racist white folks they've been living with in Juneau. I think you have been driving back and forth on your 25 mile road for too long. You need to get out and see the rest of the world.

Posted by: Billy Pilgrim | September 10, 2008 5:04 PM | Report abuse

The McCain camp just took a very hard punch to the kidneys and his supporters are too stupid to realize it. Keep clamoring you yahoos. Obama is turning your firm grasp on the obvious against you.

Posted by: joebewildered | September 10, 2008 5:04 PM | Report abuse

13 days and not a single unscripted word from Sarah Palin!!!

Posted by: Heidi | September 10, 2008 4:56 PM

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Dear Heidi Meister,

Why should see say word? There is no need to. The Democratic ticket is self destructing before our eyes.

Turn the TV Heidi Meister.

why would she say anything and help them get the train back on the track.

The GOP is doing the right thing. Sit back, don't say a word and let them run themselves into a ditch

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 5:02 PM | Report abuse

All - I'm a seasoned cynic and don't think Obama will be everything he says.

But the depths of cynicism of the McCain assault on this issue are really just at another level.

I'm actually viscerally sad at what this country's political process has become. Or maybe I've just been paying more attention recently?

Posted by: Jaybar | September 10, 2008 5:01 PM | Report abuse

libs4palin wrote:

"Facts":

Hillary women won't vote for Palin b/c she is the opposite of Hillary on the issues.

Hillary women won't fall for the chants of sexism from the GOP on treatment of Palin.

Hillary women are too educated to vote for an old white guy and a right-wing neophyte.

Facts:

Hillary isn't saying anything about Palin b/c she wants Obama to lose so she can run in 2012.

This (liberal Democrat Ivy League educated) Hillary woman is voting for McCain Palin just to screw over Obama and his arrogant, elite camp and supporters.

The issues don't matter; but making sure that Obama loses DOES.

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So ... who died and made you the truth?

Posted by: luvmynaturalhair | September 10, 2008 5:00 PM | Report abuse

My name is Trina and I am a pit bull. I object to being caricaturized with wearing lipstick. Isn't there a word for discrimination against pit bulls? I am appalled, appalled I tell you. My master has the gall to complain about non issues like the economy, the cost of living, the war, human rights, energy crisis, housing crisis. Where is the compassion? Pit bulls have feelings too. I demand an apology from someone, anyone!

Posted by: Trina the Pit Bull | September 10, 2008 5:00 PM | Report abuse

Once again the population and media of the United States are infatuated with minor distractions and ignoring the real problems, caught up in petty squabbles and ignoring the real tasks ahead.

In the summer of 2001 all the cable channels and news cycles were filled (for weeks!) with speculation about what happened to Chondra Levy, and any other distraction du jour. That ended on September 11, and then we began to concentrate on our lives, on each other, on the things that have meaning and purpose in life, on everything we have and everything we lost, and on how to move ahead while learning to live day to day and to cherish each day.

Or at least I'd like to think so....

I pray to God that this current political idiocy stops soon, and not by the intervention of another tragedy. We have too much to do to restore the United States from the results of years of neglect by the current administration, too much to do to remind ourselves that we are a nation guided by laws and by an enduring Constitution, too much to do to remind the rest of the world why their immigrants want to come here and why they looked to us for wisdom and guidance in the past.

In the days following September 11, does anyone remember the aircraft of other NATO countries flying guard over our airspace and our borders? Looking out for a friend fallen on temporary hard times, injured but not destroyed, down but far from out...

If, God forbid, something should happen again, regardless of who is in the White House, will we have friends looking out for us? Will we have the ability to look out for ourselves? Will we have thoughtful leadership that responds to actions with considered reactions, that responds to offenses by confronting the offender? Or will we repeat the mistakes of the past that have brought us to this point, and relive history again and again to our own detriment and the delight of those who scorn us?

Can we please turn down the "ground noise" and get to the point of this whole quadrennial exercise? Can we discuss the things that matter to the whole of the American people and not just the petty talking points advanced by those such as Karl Rove and his disciples? Can we tell both major party campaigns to shut the hell up unless either or both have something constructive and forward-thinking to say?


Yeah, I thought so...

Posted by: Paul_C | September 10, 2008 5:00 PM | Report abuse

Well its quitting time. Isnt it great getting paid to post all this drivel?

Posted by: bill redington | September 10, 2008 4:59 PM | Report abuse

Why is it that every election we have to fall for the same ole Okie Doke?
Everyone has used this lipstick/pig line at one time or another.
Dick chaney has used it. McCain The Offended One used it in refering to Hillary Clinton's Health Care Plan...So why is the Republicans so bent out of shape that Obama used the Lipstick/Pig line?
Take the remark in context.
He was referring to McCain recasting himself as the Agent of Change when it was the Republicans who rediculed Obama for making Change is Slogan.
We should not fall for this distrcation. The more time we send on Lipstick/Pig the less time we have to spend on the real issues..
There is an expression in sports called " Shortening the game"
The Republicans know that they can't talk about the issues and their record for 2 months because the Public will see all the holes in their record. The record of the Bush/Republican Administration is like Swiss Cheese a bunch of holes.
The Post reported today that the deficit will be over 400 Billion by years end.
The Feds just took over Fannie and Freddie ..thats another 100 Million. Lehman Brothers is on the skids.. they may fold or may require a Bail-out by years end..BUT the Campaign has been reduced to sound bite about Lipstick and the Bridge to Nowhere.
Come On !!!! That's why so many folks are turned off by Politics and why we have one of the lowest Voting Participation rates in the world.

Posted by: Carprin | September 10, 2008 4:59 PM | Report abuse

"In this modern world of politics -- the 24 hour cable news channels combined with the power and the reach of the Drudge Report, which is heavily promoting the lipstick story -- perception often matters more than reality."

I love how you write this as if you're not part of the problem by lending credence to the idea that this is in any way shape or form relevant to deciding who gets to lead this country. You sir, are a moron.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 4:57 PM | Report abuse

Obama used a common American colloquialism - and, ordinarily, the McCain crowd would be first to defend that use of the vernacular as authentic American practicality.

McCain himself used the term viz Hillary Clinton's campaign.

Palin defamed pit bulls and hockey moms with her paraphrastic use of the term.

McCain likes to tell sexist jokes himself, including an especially cruel one about Chelsea Clinton, Hillary Clinton, and former Attorney General Janet Reno.

The Republicans must thank the almighty that the Dems and teacher's unions have ruined public education - otherwise, people would have the intellectual tools to figure out they are being robbed by Republican cupidity and greed.

Posted by: Mom | September 10, 2008 4:57 PM | Report abuse

It definitely shows that Democrat Messiah
And Empty Suit Barack Hussein Obama Must Have Deep Psychological Problems,about
white women,that makes me and others question Obama's Mental and Emotional Stability and even Fitness to be President
of the United States as well as Obama's own
self-admitted heavy cocaine and other illegal drug use and Obama peddling drugs
himself,along with Obama's Sexist Attitudes
Prove Over and Over Again,that the Democrats once again picked a deeply
psychologically troubled Presidential
Candidate in Barack Hussein Obama as well.

So,it is no wonder white women are switching their support from Sexist Petty
Tyrant Barack Hussein Obama to the GOP
Winning Ticket of Sen John McCain and Gov
Sarah Palin and I haven't even mentioned
the way Barack Hussein Obama and his Smear
Doctor Sleazy David Axelrod Viciously and
Repeatedly Personally Attacked Democrat
Presidential Cnadidate Hillary Clinton.

And so,now Obama,Axelrod and stooge Biden
are using their same slimey scumbag dirty
Chicago Politics against Gov Sarah Palin and even Sen John McCain as well. And as
a man this again makes me outraged and angry at this phony sexist creep dirty lowlife Chicago Gutter Politics Creep Jerk
Barack Hussein Obama. So I cannot resist
this dig at Messiah Barack Hussein Obama
as Obama should know all about Pigs and
Lipstick,since Obama personally married
one,in Michelle Obama! Obama needs to be
taken out in back of the woodshed and have
his stinking sexist butt kicked royally and
I feel Messiah Barack Hussein Obama definitely MUST Go Personally Apologize to
Gov Sarah Palin and Sen John McCain as well
for his vicious sexist insane remarks and
smears and Obama damn needs to FIRE that
Sleazy Scumbag David Axelrod Immediately
and since Big Mouth Joe Biden must be
approving this crap then Senator Gaffe
Loud Mouth Joe Biden also must go personally apologize to Gov Palin and Sen
McCain for Big Mouth Joe Biden own roll in
it as well. We donot need to elect Democrat
lowlifes like Obama and Biden to be President and Vice President of the US and
I hope the real Silent Majority of American
Women Overwhelmingly vote for both Gov
Sarah Palin and Sen John McCain. Obama and
Biden and Axelrod are disgraces to every
man and even every human being alive. You bet I will vote for McCain and Palin and Iam an Independent as well.

Posted by: Ralphinphnx | September 10, 2008 4:56 PM | Report abuse

13 days and not a single unscripted word from Sarah Palin!!! Even hapless Dan Quayle held a press conference the day after Bush 41 chose him!!! LOL!!! Not Sarah!!! 13 days and not a peep from Palin!!! Will Sarah have time to appear on the Sunday morning talk shows THIS WEEKEND? How about 60 Minutes? How about with the other network anchors? Will Gibson be the ONLY one who gets to question Sarah before the debate in three weeks? Does she REALLY need three weeks to bone up before she can face the MSM press corps and answer their questions? If she is THIS TIMID and AFRAID of the PRESS how could she ever meet Putin if she became President??? Very curious.


Posted by: Heidi | September 10, 2008 4:56 PM | Report abuse

If white women are going to vote for McCain and the Palins because the best candidate is a black man, they deserve 200 years of humiliation.

Posted by: stearm | September 10, 2008 4:55 PM | Report abuse

Fact is Obama brought this on himself by going after the lipstick. So if he can't even take the heat over this my oh my how could he run anything? Mr Obama is out there calling others liars, while he can't even look straight into a camera. Always one side or the other. What's even more scary is so many dems flap and flap about their boy and there's not one thing Obama can point to he has acheived. NOT ONE!! Yet a bunch of dems sounding full of hatred spouting off here like everything Obama says is fact and solid gold. Obama comes from "no where" stands for democratic empty promises and then waits for his "followers" to go out and quote him. The video where Obama is pathetically trying to put Jesus Christ in a false state of truth with his stupid comment about the sermon on the mount. When anyone that has reserched the Quran and the Muslim cult attempts to try to lower Christ to the level of other saintly men in bible times. When clearly GOD says, Jesus is the only begotten son of GOD. So no Jesus isn't a prophet like Mohammad. Mohammad translated the bible into arabic and HE DEFINATELY GOT CARRIED AWAY WITH HIMSELF. This is Obama's true colors of muslim faith showing. Obama is about as much christian as O'Hare.

Posted by: More constant than bitter | September 10, 2008 4:55 PM | Report abuse

Chris, in order for this to work, "From turning Obama's celebrity against him to this latest episode of taking a seemingly innocuous comment and transforming it into a national news story, the McCain campaign is effectively using the politics of perception against Obama."...
the mainstream media must buy into the McCain campaign's claims enough to put them on the front page. Do you have to spout every claim a campaign makes without regard to the facts? NO. Unfortunately the media has long ago abdicated their role of seeking the truth. Now, in the interests of "balance", they mostly just tell us what each side says instead of calling out the lies when they see them, regardless of which side of the political aisle those lies originate.
Posted by: Patrick | September 10, 2008 4:50 PM
So I see! It seems that it is now up to the media to tell the people that the truth isn't important and that perception is what trumps reality.
The media, and that includes you Chris, should be doing their actual job, instead of constantly pointing at what others should be doing.
Corporate News has got to go. It is as dangerous for this country as anything else. There are no more reporters, just commentators who try and sway public opinion. This scares the heck out of me.
Posted by: Catherine Mc. | September 10, 2008 4:00 PM
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AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am so sick of the media airing spin on each side no matter how wildly innacurate then hosting a panel about who we the American people are going to beleive. Isnt it the job of the media to find the truth? Isnt it the job of the media to call a lie a lie when they see one? If Palin wants to lie about the bridge to nowhere she should be called on it period. If an Obama surrogate lies to the media he or she should be called on it. Since when did the media absolve itself of the truth in favor of endless opinion and spin? Oh wait i remember now.....ever since they became so corperate that they started to care more about ratings and sales then they do the truth. Controversy sells newspapers and gets TV ratings. just take this blog for example.....look at all the comments come rolling in over this NON STORY. The only story here is the media making it one.
NICE JOB CHRIS>>>>YOU WIMP

Posted by: feastorafamine | September 10, 2008 4:54 PM | Report abuse

What you call the "politics of perception," where perceived personalities are more important than issues, makes sense in terms of the McCain strategy if there was an iota of reality or truth in their attacks or their claims. But what we are really dealing with is a politics of delusion where the end is to make the voting public deluded through a barrage of lies and distortion, repeated often. Will the McCain campaign succeed? Time will tell, but what they are doing now could very well backfire in October.

Posted by: politics of delusion | September 10, 2008 4:53 PM | Report abuse

This false outrage over the lipstick on a pig comment is just standard operating procedure for the Republican Party and the McSame campaign. Obama was out there, whipping up on them pretty good over their ludicrous claim to the "change" mantle. What is a Republican to do when the truth hurts? Make up a false controversy to change the topic. Go back through the history of this campaign and you will see it happen again and again. I'm sure you'll see it more and more over the next two months. Remember when Obama was overseas, visiting the troops, meeting heads of state, gathering first hand accounts of what's happening on the ground, and helping undo some of the damage Bush has done to our reputation? It was looking pretty bad for Republicans, so they ginned up the fake, Obama doesn't care about the troops controversy. This is no different, and unfortunately, it seems to work with the media, who is always quick to jump on a "controversy" real or not. The RepubliThugs have taken LBJ's "Make the bastard deny it" to a whole new level, regardless of how deceitful they have to be. How anyone can support a campaign that is so deceitful, I have no idea. If lies and deceit are what you're getting now, what do you think you're going to get when they get into office?

Posted by: hesingswithfrogs | September 10, 2008 4:53 PM | Report abuse

All you folks attacking Chris for making an observation of facts is weird.

He is not agreeing with the RNC tactic he is just underlining their efforts.

I am voting for Obama, but I can see an RNC freight train of lies, distortion, and controlled perception when I see one. But remember when a train goes too fast and too hard it usually derails.

Posted by: Billy Pilgrim | September 10, 2008 4:53 PM | Report abuse

Here's John McCain putting lipstick on a pig, too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BR8IhMMhe8w

Posted by: VA resident | September 10, 2008 4:52 PM | Report abuse

Apparently pundits overlooked Obama's entire comments:

"You can put lipstick on a pig. "It's still a pig."

"You can wrap an old fish in a piece of paper called change. It's still gonna stink."

When read in the entire context you can see why he probably evoked two metaphors: the 72-year old McCain as the "old fish" that is still going to "stink", and to refer to Palin, who had famously evoked the metaphor of lipstick, as still the pig despite the lipstick.

The fact that he used two metaphors to attack the two don't seem to be accidents.

Posted by: perclise1 | September 10, 2008 4:52 PM | Report abuse

In the days to come, who will the comment "lipstick on a pig" come to be associated with? The McCain camp that the term aptly describes, or Obama who said it. When I hear the term "political jujitsu" I think this is what they're talking about. The pitbull with lipstick just got neutered/spayed.

Posted by: joebewildered | September 10, 2008 4:51 PM | Report abuse

UNBELIEVABLE. ACCUSING SARAH PALIN OF FAKING HER PREGNANCY, BRISTOL PALIN OF SORDID UPBRINGING THAT CAUSED UNWED PREGNANCY, AND NOW THIS. WHAT KIND OF LOWDOWN FILTH ARE OBAMA AND HIS CAMPAIGN? I COULD SPIT ON THEM FROM HERE TO ETERNITY AND STILL HAVE ENOUGH SPIT LEFT TO DO IT ALL OVER AGAIN AND AGAIN. I CANNOT BELIEVE THAT COKE-SNORTING, GOD-DAMN-AMERICA-PASTOR-LOVING, SMALL-TOWN HATING, HILLARY-BASHING, NAME-CALLING, FINGER-FLIPPING, HARVARD-PREENING, KENNEDY-SUCKING, PSEUDO-CHANGE-SELLING, EMPTY-SPEECH-MAKING PIED SNOBAMA PIPER, HAS FALLEN TO THIS DEPTH OF SEWAGE. OBAMA AND HIS CAMPAIGN AIDES ARE WORSE THAN INSECTS SUFFERING FROM LEPROSY.

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When Bill Clinton called Obama's Iraq war stand "a fairy tale", he was widely viewed (by your newspaper too) as being racist. He was not given the benefit of doubt when he deserved one. Let's look at the context here:

1. Palin had used a very well received lipstick analogy to describe herself as a fighter. It is widely repeated and talked about.

2. Obama is known to be almost surgical in his usage of words. He is very careful and cautious. A thoughtful man. Just a coincidence - give me a break while you are giving him the benefit of doubt.

3. The crowd erupted into shrieks, whoops and cheers just as soon as he said it. Why should they get so delirious if this is not radioactive humor? Yes, the crowd knows what is going on.

McCain used this phrase when talking about Hillary's healthcare plan. Obama basically called Palin a pig in the same way he mocked and insulted Hillary many times but got away because the media is not discouraging him from it. This is a disgrace.

Look at Obama's statement:

"You can put lipstick on a pig. It's still a pig. You can wrap an old fish in a piece of paper and call it change. It's still going to stink, after eight years."

Heck, if I were being honest, the guy is clearly saying Old Fish/Pig '08.
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Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 4:50 PM | Report abuse

Chris, in order for this to work, "From turning Obama's celebrity against him to this latest episode of taking a seemingly innocuous comment and transforming it into a national news story, the McCain campaign is effectively using the politics of perception against Obama."...
the mainstream media must buy into the McCain campaign's claims enough to put them on the front page. Do you have to spout every claim a campaign makes without regard to the facts? NO. Unfortunately the media has long ago abdicated their role of seeking the truth. Now, in the interests of "balance", they mostly just tell us what each side says instead of calling out the lies when they see them, regardless of which side of the political aisle those lies originate.

Posted by: Patrick | September 10, 2008 4:50 PM | Report abuse

C'mon Republicans repeat after me...

SQUEAL LIKE A PIG!
SQUEAL LIKE A PIG!
SQUEAL LIKE A PIG!
SQUEAL LIKE A PIG!

I wonder how pork futures are doing today?

Posted by: I like pigs! | September 10, 2008 4:49 PM | Report abuse

Lyn, three things:

1) Obama declined to pick Hillary because she acted like a lunatic throughout the primary season. She showed no control over her emotions and she made every attempt to destroy Obama, even going so far as to express doubt about his ability to lead the nation. How could any Democrat not be angered about that? She just hurt the party's chances of winning the White House this fall. How selfish...

2) If McCain isn't for equal pay for equal work, that doesn't necessarily mean his myriad other positions won't be enough to win over female Americans. Some of them may be willing to earn a little less for the sake of getting him in office because they like his other positions.

3) Many people believe abortion is murder. If they believe abortion is murder, then killing an unborn baby is killing an unborn baby, regardless of whether it was conceived through rape or incest.

Posted by: mahmud010 | September 10, 2008 4:48 PM | Report abuse

She called herself a bulldog, and that was so cute. Har har. But McCain's campaign is in the slop, and Palin is the willing star of the show. Pig is the more appropriate animal.

Posted by: Hank | September 10, 2008 4:46 PM | Report abuse

It is being reported that pigs everywhere are outraged, and demand an apology.

Posted by: jwald1 | September 10, 2008 4:46 PM | Report abuse

Its not Sarah's fault. In Alaska everyone is on the take- from oil taxes - $ 3200 a year for each resident. Everyone goes to church - its warmer there. Everyone is a republican. Everyone loves sarah - or wants to.

Posted by: bill redington | September 10, 2008 4:45 PM | Report abuse

Women really need to look close at who they are choosing to identify with.

Do mothers across this country identify with it being "God's will" that their children be sent to die in a fruitless war for oil, that will all be sold to China anyway, or who come home to a lifetime of debilitation, suffering and neglect?

Do mothers across this country identify with an education system that can't even compete with some third world countries, where all but the elite children are left behind?

Do wives across this country identify with an corporate political partnership that says it's ok to suck the life out of your spouse and cast him aside like a piece of used up trash?

Do women across this country really identify with a policy which aims to steal what little security your parents have?

Do woman across this country really identify with a health care policy which will not give you or your children or your parents anything better than what they have now.

Governor Palin IS the lipstick and the pig is Republicanism and John McCain is the poster boy.

It's not that it's a man’s world. Believe me I know. It’s only a man's world for some men and it's those men who are manipulating Palin, like a puppet on a string. Beneath that very appealing exterior of Palin’s is the essence of "shut up and do what you're told" that every other woman in the country should despise. Even Palin herself has been duped and has succumbed to the attention, the flirtation, the manipulation.

Quell your giddy delight and look closely ladies and you'll see this is not misogyny.

She is being played like a doll with a string in her back and You’re being played by those who coldly calculated the effect of dangling this bauble before your weary eyes.

Played Again.

Posted by: Robert | September 10, 2008 4:44 PM | Report abuse

and now we have the joint chief saying we may lose in Afghanistan...

okay we have finally come to that point ...everybody now...pardon the french ...all together...say it with me...

"McCain and Palin...SUCK!"

Posted by: dl | September 10, 2008 4:44 PM | Report abuse

Sure, the GOP can't be bothered to come up with policies to keep the country out of the tank, but they have a heck of a marketing department.

McCain like Bush is a joke, but he may very well end up in the white house.

I believe historians observed long ago that democracy is vulnerable to bread and circus.

You can put lipstick on a pig, but it is still a pig.

Posted by: jfp | September 10, 2008 4:44 PM | Report abuse

I object to the tone of this article, suggesting that image matters more than reality. No, it doesn't. That kind of thinking is what got us in this mess. I have no doubt the GOP would be able to continuously churn out high quality cookie-cutter photo-ops and mealymouthed sound bytes until the very last house in the American Heartland disappears underwater, but those images will not actually save us. Only reality-based solutions can.

We are all in danger. Right now. Someone has to do something or more of us will lose our houses, die in wars, or be washed away in floods. John McCain just doesn't get that. He and his cronies really honestly think that if they destroy things too badly, God will fix it all before it's too late. Last time I checked, the Supreme Being was still letting us do really stupid and horrible things that killed millions of people for no reason, so I don't see why this time would be any different. If it's going to be stopped, WE have to stop it. McCain and Palin honestly don't believe anything could possibly be wrong. Watch, other comments will follow, accusing me of being "loony" or "whacko" or "extreme left wing," just for pointing out that New Orleans drowned while the GOP watched, and any city could be next.

Posted by: RachelB | September 10, 2008 4:43 PM | Report abuse

The more and more I read the pig/lipstick comment, the more and more I laugh. It really is an apt description of McCain's idea of change. In any case McCain, oink, oink, go squeal about something else for awhile.

Posted by: Wimpy McCain | September 10, 2008 4:43 PM | Report abuse

I'm just curious when the last time O'bama (or anyone else for that matter) used the "pig-lipstick" line before yesterday.

O'bama knew EXACTLY what he was doing making that comment. He's a smart guy, and it was totally calculated and calculating. It was a clear allusion to Palin and a nice little cynical dig at her and McCain. The partisans attending the campaign rally definitely took it as such. His campaign's denial that the remark was a thinly-veiled slap at Palin ranks right up there with "I'm shocked, shocked, that gambling in going on in here." Please spare me the "outrage" at his being called on his little joke.

Posted by: You Cannot Be Serious | September 10, 2008 4:35 PM

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i'm your Huckleberry...
here ya go.....

Obama 2007

'I think that both General Petraeus and Ambassador Crocker are capable people who have been given an impossible assignment,' Sen. Barack Obama said yesterday in a telephone interview. 'George Bush has given a mission to General Petraeus, and he has done his best to try to figure out how to put lipstick on a pig.

OH and WAIT how about this little gem....

McCain: McCain criticized Democratic contenders for offering what he called costly universal health-care proposals that require too much government regulation. While he said he had not studied Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton's plan, he said it was "eerily reminiscent" of the failed plan she offered as first lady in the 1990s.

"I think they put some lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig," he said of her proposal.

please get your facts straight and do some research this phrase has been used by countless politicians on both sides of the isle.

Also newly offensive is

You can lead a horse to water but you cant make him drink
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder
A bird in the hand is better than two in the bush.

get back to reality or do some reading

Posted by: feastorafamine | September 10, 2008 4:43 PM | Report abuse

Reasons to vote for Obama. Click the link below and find out why?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdJUCU1UH2w

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Obama has managed to exchange, in the minds of the intellectually challenged, the term "pit bull with lipstick", a positive for the Republicans, with "lipstick on a pig", which really is a perfect description of his VP choice and the entire McCain campaign overall.

The longer this particular manufactured controversy stays alive, the more exposed the true nature of the McCain campaign becomes.

Posted by: joebewildered | September 10, 2008 4:42 PM | Report abuse

American citizens will get what they deserve, not what they need....just as Bush was/is a reflection of lessening of morals/rationality/responsibility, so too McCain/Palin reveals an impulsive, superficial and crass citizenry. USA: RIP.

Posted by: McRumi | September 10, 2008 4:42 PM | Report abuse

@CaliDreamin -- that is a very ironic comment coming from someone in the US. I am willing to bet you support our meddlesome policies in other countries, yet you don't even like a non USian expressing their opinion in a public forum.

It's especially pitiful since the statement you're poo-pooing is largely a statement of fact. I hope most voters aren't as ignorant and ideological as you.

Posted by: Fool | September 10, 2008 4:41 PM | Report abuse

Looks to me like we've reached the 'nonstop hype' phase of the campaign. Pretty much anything that's said between now and Nov. 5 (or maybe a week longer, if the vote count doesn't come out the way Diebold wants it) will be horse-patooey. The GOP are past masters at this. They like to use that BIG LIE tactic that Goebbels favored -- the more ridiculous the accusation, the more time their target must spend defending himself...

My advice: if you haven't done it already, take an hour and figure out who you're going to vote for. Then turn off the news channels and watch cartoon DVDs from now until the election is over. Cast your ballot in advance to make sure you get a chance to vote.

By the way, McCain's economic policy IS a lot like putting lipstick on a pig.

Posted by: samson151 | September 10, 2008 4:40 PM | Report abuse

The Republicans want to make this election about personalities and "gotcha" attacks and phony controversies. And Chris Cillizza is doing his best to help them out.

Posted by: Patrick | September 10, 2008 4:39 PM | Report abuse

This is the dumbest non-issue of a presidential campaign fixated on non-issues. America is a nation of easily-distracted idiots and will get the president it deserves.

Posted by: marc | September 10, 2008 4:39 PM | Report abuse

Once again the population and media of the United States are infatuated with minor distractions and ignoring the real problems, caught up in petty squabbles and ignoring the real tasks ahead.

In the summer of 2001 all the cable channels and news cycles were filled (for weeks!) with speculation about what happened to Chondra Levy, and any other distraction du jour. That ended on September 11, and then we began to concentrate on our lives, on each other, on the things that have meaning and purpose in life, on everything we have and everything we lost, and on how to move ahead while learning to live day to day and to cherish each day.

Or at least I'd like to think so....

I pray to God that this current political idiocy stops soon, and not by the intervention of another tragedy. We have too much to do to restore the United States from the results of years of neglect by the current administration, too much to do to remind ourselves that we are a nation guided by laws and by an enduring Constitution, too much to do to remind the rest of the world why their immigrants want to come here and why they looked to us for wisdom and guidance in the past.

In the days following September 11, does anyone remember the aircraft of other NATO countries flying guard over our airspace and our borders? Looking out for a friend fallen on temporary hard times, injured but not destroyed, down but far from out...

If, God forbid, something should happen again, regardless of who is in the White House, will we have friends looking out for us? Will we have the ability to look out for ourselves? Will we have thoughtful leadership that responds to actions with considered reactions, that responds to offenses by confronting the offender? Or will we repeat the mistakes of the past that have brought us to this point, and relive history again and again to our own detriment and the delight of those who scorn us?

Can we please turn down the "ground noise" and get to the point of this whole quadrennial exercise? Can we discuss the things that matter to the whole of the American people and not just the petty talking points advanced by those such as Karl Rove (a wholly owned subsidiary of Satan and His Legions, Inc.) and his disciples? Can we tell both major party campaigns to shut the hell up unless either or both have something constructive and forward-thinking to say?


Yeah, I thought so...

Posted by: Paul_C | September 10, 2008 4:38 PM | Report abuse

God if you do exist, please bless us all and help us to open our eyes to see the truth. We all are being played for suckers

Posted by: SilentSeeker | September 10, 2008 4:38 PM | Report abuse

I think Chris is right. The Republicans are focusing on perception as opposed to the truth or the issues. They are going back to what has worked for them consistently over the years. Why do you think every person on Fox News says "Fair and Balanced" every other word. If you keep saying something enough it becomes truth in some sheeps eyes and ears.

McCain said that he would not engage in such politics, but he has and it appears that it will only increase. Its not a stupid move, but it may not be something the public will go with this time.

They need to be careful about the backlash and keep Palin in her Plexiglass cage. Otherwise, they may die by their own sword, but as I said before, this is the country that elected Little Bush twice.

Posted by: Billy Pilgrim | September 10, 2008 4:36 PM | Report abuse

I'm just curious when the last time O'bama (or anyone else for that matter) used the "pig-lipstick" line before yesterday.

O'bama knew EXACTLY what he was doing making that comment. He's a smart guy, and it was totally calculated and calculating. It was a clear allusion to Palin and a nice little cynical dig at her and McCain. The partisans attending the campaign rally definitely took it as such. His campaign's denial that the remark was a thinly-veiled slap at Palin ranks right up there with "I'm shocked, shocked, that gambling in going on in here." Please spare me the "outrage" at his being called on his little joke.

Posted by: You Cannot Be Serious | September 10, 2008 4:35 PM | Report abuse

Traci,
From one woman to another-
When a man like McCain believes that woman do not deserve equal pay for equal work, how can you vote for him? When palin opposses abortion in the case of rape and incest how can you vote for her? Palin is trouble and McCain will lead us into WWIII Are you ready for some nuclear weapons in your own backyard? I know I am not.

Posted by: Lyn | September 10, 2008 4:35 PM | Report abuse

Who are we talking about today? Obama.
Mission Accomplished.

Posted by: bill redington | September 10, 2008 4:35 PM | Report abuse

Chris Cilizza: Do your job!!! How could you write this entire piece without mentioning that John McCain himself has used this expression multiple times on the campaign trail, and that his own daughter has said that he uses this expression.

I've noticed that another washington post piece on this topic also does not reveal that McCain used this expression in the past.

Why is the Washington Post protecting and defending John McCain.

DO YOUR JOB, CHRIS!!

Posted by: Di | September 10, 2008 4:34 PM | Report abuse

I welcomed Obama's forcefull rebuke of McCain camp's intentional distortion of his comments.

I want him and other democrates to go even further to challenge McCain and Palin themselves to respond Obama's original statement.

Let's stop the swift boat before it gains anymore publicity.

Posted by: Go Obama Go. | September 10, 2008 4:33 PM | Report abuse

Suzanne, make sure you keep talking about this issue. Not enough people are aware of it.

Posted by: John in Mpls | September 10, 2008 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Q: How long before we find out that John McCain is doing Sarah Palin?

A: Depends on when the National Enquirer can substantiate the story.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Hey Chris-

Are you getting paid for the noted Republican tilt to your blogging, or do you give it away for free?

What dreck.

THINK, America!

Posted by: CillGOPiza | September 10, 2008 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Man, the Obam-ites sure do like to chant, don't they?

I see two alternatives:
1. Either Obama meant what he said, and is just the same kind of politician as everyone else (only less qualified); or

2. Obama didn't mean what he said....in which case he's just stupid, Harvard law degree or not.

As William Shatner once said to Ricardo Montalban: "I am LAUGHING at the 'superior intellect'!"

"President McCain" ...get used to the phrase.
(maybe you could chant it; that might help)


Posted by: ep | September 10, 2008 4:26 PM

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Ummm OK i think all the "chanting" being done was by the repubs at their mud lsinging convention. You know chants like "drill baby drill" and USA USA"

you forgot about option #3
That the GOP's notion that they represent change is like putting lipstick on a pig.....just like he said. Not so stupid if you actually beleive the GOP has driven this country into a ditch.

I find it utterly amazing, mind numbing and surreal that the republicans are running on a change platform borrowed from Obama to storm their own castle??!! Repub CHANT...."We suck, We Suck but NOW Were Different." This cranky guy cant even operate the internet to read your opinion. But change is coming......ya right like what more trickle down economics, fear mongering, politicizing 9/11 and questioning patriotism? Privatizing anything and everything to line the pockets of your friends? Lying repeatedly to the American people, 3 TRILLION in debt and POOF! A new republican party!!!! transformed from the last eight years and catapulted into the future! Yippeee like Slim Pickens riding the bomb through the sky in Dr Strangelove. Hello Joe McCarthy is that you? Mr. McCarthy would be proud. So would David Blaine. Abracadabra!!

Posted by: feastorafamine | September 10, 2008 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Dear Bullsmith: Not all liberal Dems have to be head over heels in love with that MORON. In fact, many are not. The many who are going to throw the election in favor of McCain.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 4:31 PM | Report abuse

I wish hillary and sarah could go at it. What a wrestling smackdown that would be.
Maybe in 2012. I think hillary turned down obama's v.p. offer.

Posted by: bill redington | September 10, 2008 4:30 PM | Report abuse

So when will McCain apologize to Hillary for referring to her as a pig. He used the same phrase to describe her policies?

Posted by: JJ | September 10, 2008 4:30 PM | Report abuse

Bottom lines:

Obama could have made the issue go away with an apology to Palin, he didn't.

Obama could have chosen Hillary for his Vice President running mate, he didn't.

Obama said he was going to lead an upright campaign as an agent of change, he isn't.

In matters of judgement, views on women, and arrogance... Obama continues to demonstrate he isn't ready to lead. He has less effective leadership experience than Palin and it shows.

As Vice President, Palin will represent more change and inspire more women and young women than any American leader has ever done.

That is the bottom line.

Obama, you don't respect women and you lost my vote.

Posted by: Traci | September 10, 2008 4:28 PM | Report abuse

"Nobamahater" describes himself as a "liberal Dem". Fits right in with what the Straight Talk Express has become.

Posted by: Bullsmith | September 10, 2008 4:28 PM | Report abuse

Let us pretend for a second that Obama did not mean his comments to be an attack against either Palin or McCain. What does this say about his judgment?

His audience clearly took it as an attack on Palin and McCain. The Republicans clearly took it as an attack on Palin and McCain. Many independents clearly took it as an attack on Palin and McCain.

If Obama can not figure out how to word his statements to be inoffensive to people from his own culture, in his own country how in the world is he going to be able to effectively communicate with leaders of foreign cultures without offending them.

Another failure on the part of Obama's judgment.

Posted by: Another Obama failure | September 10, 2008 4:28 PM | Report abuse

''' tell me what I have to say,
to get you to believe I wont take
your guns!!??? I'll say whatever
I have too!!!!""' B. OBAMA

No Convictions.
Nobama!

He just doesnt GET IT.


Posted by: usa3 | September 10, 2008 4:28 PM | Report abuse

Attention LIBS!

This is the best analysis I've seen all day! Any which way you slive it, Obama F-ed up BADLY.

"Anyway, the comment reads much different in the paper than it looks on television. I agree with Chris. Obviously Obama didn't intend to call Palin a pig. But it's also obvious from the gleeful audience reaction that many considered it a dig at Palin.

You can almost see normal Americans (i.e., those that don't post on political sites) saying, "did you hear he called her a pig?" "

Posted by: palinin2012 | September 10, 2008 4:28 PM | Report abuse

This is where we see the trus experience of the man. Come on - not one advisr had the brains to tell Obama 'do not use the word lipstick for a few weeks." What an idiot Obama is and what a bunch of inexperienced advisors he has. He derstroyed Hillary and Bill with his inuendo's. But now we are in the real game! Thank-you to all the 'starry eyed" liberals who think Obama is Lincoln, thank you Oprah (go back to your diet), thank-you Gonzalez and Kennedy and kerry. The Democratic -party will be better when we are rid of you all.

Posted by: willygoo46 | September 10, 2008 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Just wondering: Could there be any instance of phony outrage so stupid or egregious that the media would not allow itself to be thoroughly used?

Posted by: Tom | September 10, 2008 4:26 PM | Report abuse

You can put lipstick on McCain, but he'd still smell like an old fish.

Posted by: khoreia | September 10, 2008 4:26 PM | Report abuse

I think the two campaign's internal polling must reflect something much different than the national polls. How else can you explain the McCain camps increasingly desperate, shrill, and unhinged tactics?

The smartest thing Obama did in the primary was to not get in the way of Hillary self-destructing. I think he is doing the same here. He is going to stick to issues and let the Republicans take care of demonstrating why they are not fit to lead.

Posted by: joebewildered | September 10, 2008 4:26 PM | Report abuse

MORE LIES
MORE FEAR MONGERING
MORE SWIFT BOATING
MORE MORE MORE KARL ROVE
Posted by: feastorafamine

EIGHT IS ENOUGH!
8 IS ENOUGH!
8 IS ENOUGH!
8 IS ENOUGH!
Posted by: PAT
_______________________________________

Man, the Obam-ites sure do like to chant, don't they?

I see two alternatives:
1. Either Obama meant what he said, and is just the same kind of politician as everyone else (only less qualified); or

2. Obama didn't mean what he said....in which case he's just stupid, Harvard law degree or not.

As William Shatner once said to Ricardo Montalban: "I am LAUGHING at the 'superior intellect'!"

"President McCain" ...get used to the phrase.
(maybe you could chant it; that might help)

Posted by: ep | September 10, 2008 4:26 PM | Report abuse

McCain is using the same tatics and thinking like Adolf Hitler. Click on the link and see the similarities in the two men.

http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/a/adolf_hitler.html

Posted by: Lyn | September 10, 2008 4:26 PM | Report abuse

The McCain campaign has-

Said Palin said no thanks to Congress- she kept the money after she couldn't get the bridge fully financed by the lower 48.

Said Obama wanted to teach "comprehensive sex ed" to kindergardeners when he wanted them warned about predators (like the Catholic church does by the way)

Said Obama called Palin a pig, when both Obama and McCain used the term repeatedly long before Palin came into the ticket.

Said they're running for change when their platform is near identical to 94s.

Said Palin's against earmarks and pork when Alaska's #1 per capita in getting both.

Had to take down their latest ad because they used footage of Katie Couric to mislead the public. CBS rightly objected.

There is a growing and serious credibility issue with the McCain campaign. Please report on that Chris.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 4:25 PM | Report abuse

Obamas' great claim
to help the economy?
Spent 600 billion dollars
we dont spent now...
Am I the only american
who believes we can not
continue to spend
money we dont have?
CUT SPENDING!!!
McCain/Palin08

Posted by: usa3 | September 10, 2008 4:25 PM | Report abuse

I followed the Democratic nomination fight very closely and noted on several occasions how Obama managed to regain the narrative in very subtle fashion. I think he knew full well how the McCain campaign would react and has now turned the media spotlight on McCain campaign techniques. The discussion now seems to be centered on the hysterical McCain camp reaction to employing an oft used campaign cliche. Even the tabloid MSM can't pretend to take him seriously on this one.

Posted by: joebewildered | September 10, 2008 4:13 PM

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I guarantee you that Obama is not enjoying this. The fact that there is even a debate about whether Obama considers Palin a pig is bad for his campaign. If not only because it distracts from his ability to actually get a message out.

Anyway, the comment reads much different in the paper than it looks on television. I agree with Chris. Obviously Obama didn't intend to call Palin a pig. But it's also obvious from the gleeful audience reaction that many considered it a dig at Palin.

You can almost see normal Americans (i.e., those that don't post on political sites) saying, "did you hear he called her a pig?"

Posted by: Me | September 10, 2008 4:25 PM | Report abuse

As a liberal Dem, I do not know what is worse: the fact that he called her a pig, or the fact that he says he didn't mean Palin when he said it, which means he is an EVEN BIGGER DUMBF**K THAN I THOUGHT for using the phrase in the first place.

This is what happens when Obama goes off-script. Bad things.

He is the DEM version of George W.!!!

Posted by: nobamahater | September 10, 2008 4:25 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin is an absolute insult to the intelligence of Americans across this country.

She is everything that is wrong and hypocritical about America and gives the term UGLY AMERICAN new meaning.

---Just when you thought it could never get worse than George W. Bush, along comes his counterpart...

Posted by: Don | September 10, 2008 4:24 PM | Report abuse

I hate to bring this interesting debate back to some semblance of reality, but I'm a white registered Republican female, and I don't give a rat's ass about the lipstick on a pig comment Obama made--or the one McCain made months ago.

I do care that I can't sue an employer for discriminating against me for my gender, even if my employer is still doing it, if I don't discover the discrimination and file a lawsuit within 180 days of the first instance of discrimination. I do care that when a bill was introduced that would have allowed me to sue within 180 days of discovering the discrimination, John McCain voted against it, on the basis it might cause lawsuits against corporate America. I do care that women make $0.77 for each dollar a man makes in a comparable job.

I want the right to seek redress under law when I am discriminated against. I want companies to know I have the right, so they treat me and other female employees fairly. Voters should ignore the soundbite du jour and start looking at the real issues of women's treatment in this country.

A level playing field is part of my American dream. I will vote for Obama rather than McCain because I know the difference between talking the talk and walking the walk.

Posted by: Suzanne | September 10, 2008 4:24 PM | Report abuse

Obama used that phrase way before Palin ever became America's favorite victim. It's a phrase that's commonly used in conversation in all parts of the country. The idea that Obama, one of the smartest presidential candidates in recent history, would make the mistake of calling one of his opponents a pig is, well, ridiculous.

On the other hand, Obama, having used the phrase before, might have decided to use it yesterday to create this kind of controversy. Now he has the opportunity to lecture the McCain campaign on the immaturity of connecting those words to Palin. "That's the old politics."

Posted by: mahmud010 | September 10, 2008 4:24 PM | Report abuse

If you voted for Bush/Cheney last time,stay home this time youve already proved your not smart enough to vote.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 4:22 PM | Report abuse

"Facts":

Hillary women won't vote for Palin b/c she is the opposite of Hillary on the issues.

Hillary women won't fall for the chants of sexism from the GOP on treatment of Palin.

Hillary women are too educated to vote for an old white guy and a right-wing neophyte.

Facts:

Hillary isn't saying anything about Palin b/c she wants Obama to lose so she can run in 2012.

This (liberal Democrat Ivy League educated) Hillary woman is voting for McCain Palin just to screw over Obama and his arrogant, elite camp and supporters.

The issues don't matter; but making sure that Obama loses DOES.

Posted by: libs4palin | September 10, 2008 4:21 PM | Report abuse

The Republicans are very much hoping this will not be a campaign about the ISSUES or they will lose their A$$.

Don't you get it America???

In their horribly transparent and hiddeous attempt to distract American voters from a tanking economy, and 53 TRILLION in debt they have just sacked you and your kids with, they have selected Sarah Palin.

A complete UNKNOWN Hack that they KNOW will be so controversial and devisive, that with less than 60 days left, most American's will be so concerned with her hair-do, and family baggage, that they will somehow slide right by on the ISSUES!!

And the scary thing is...judging by some of the ignorant comments out here, a lot of people have NO IDEA just how much trouble this country is in after 8 years of the Bush administration!!

Please just try to remember that we are electing a PRESIDENT, not the next host of American Idol, or Jerry Springer.

DEMAND QUALITY, DAMAND EDUCATION and EXPERIENCE--- Your very life depends on it.

Posted by: Lee | September 10, 2008 4:21 PM | Report abuse

Bottom lines:

Obama could have chosen Hillary for his Vice President running mate, he didn't.

Obama said he was going to lead an upright campaign as an agent of change, he isn't.

Obama could have made the issue go away with an apology to Palin, he didn't.

In matters of judgement, views on women, and arrogance... Obama continues to demonstrate he isn't ready to lead. He has less effective leadership experience than Palin and it shows.

As Vice President, Palin will represent more change and inspire more women and young women than any American leader has ever done.

That is the bottom line.

Obama, you don't respect women and you lost my vote.

Posted by: Dennise | September 10, 2008 4:21 PM | Report abuse

Obama did what he had to do. Grab media attention back from Sarah Salmon. I'm betting the novelty of this sizzling sex siren from wasilly will begin to wane and the polls will go up for Obama before the debates.

Posted by: bill redington | September 10, 2008 4:21 PM | Report abuse

The enthusiasm over Palin is getting under Obama's skin and he's being too cute by half. If he continues his current track his candidacy will implode.

I for one sure hope so; he's an ultra-leftwing socialist.

Posted by: KeythL | September 10, 2008 4:21 PM | Report abuse

And apparently, neither do issues that really matter to most Americans, our elitest press core is out to show us (dumb Americans in their view) why we need to be told who to vote for. And apparently since they can't win on the issues their only method available is to beat down Palin on a daily basis and hope they'll get some traction that way.


Posted by: jmd | September 10, 2008 4:17 PM

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You mean these issues?

Gov. Palin:
Raised taxes as the Gov. of Alaska

Misled America about the Bridge to Nowhere, in her first national speech (She fully supported it and only denounced it after the funding was cut anyhow) and continues to do so as many as four times a day on the campaign stump. She never returned the funds for the Bridge to Nowhere.

A 2006 question to Governor Palin …”Would you continue state funding for the proposed Knik Arm and Gravina Island bridges?”
Answer: “Yes. I would like to see Alaska's infrastructure projects built sooner rather than later. The window is now - while our congressional delegation is in a strong position to assist.”

Wants to teach creationism in Science Class, subverting the US Constitution

Tried to get books banned at the local library

Fired her entire staff 10 days into term as mayor, for lack of loyalty

Used every available lever to get an enemy fired from his job, and is still lying about it

Put a gag order on her administration as mayor of a town of 6500

Milked the Federal Government for huge series of earmarks, by using Jack Abramoff lobbyists. The highest per capita earmarker in the nation: Palin (27 Million for a town of 6500)

Charged 52 earmarks valued at $256 million in her first year as Alaska Governor and 31 earmarks valued at $197 million this year. Considerably HIGHER than Barrack Obama’s Earmark list he released in March of 2008 in the spirit of transparency.

Billed taxpayers in Alaska $43,490 for staying in her own home.

Touts the need to address special needs children but only did so by stepping in at the last minute to support a bill that she was chided for NOT supporting previously despite her sister having a child with autism.

Doesn’t believe in Global Warming

Used Alaska First as her campaign slogan, which is the same one as her husband’s old party, the AIP, a secessionist organization she recorded a supportive piece for this year! She was also the keynote speaker for AIP on several occasions and her husband was an ardent supporter and member of AIP.

The AIP founder Joe Voglar once stated, “I'm an Alaskan, not an American. I've got no use for America or her damned institutions." and "The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government. And I won't be buried under their damn flag. I'll be buried in Dawson. And when Alaska is an independent nation they can bring my bones home."

Wants to ban stem cell research

Is on the record stating the Iraq war ”Is a task from God.”

In July when interviewed about the possibility of being the VP she stated that she did not know what the VP did.
Subsequently has been sequestered and hidden from the media until an appropriate time in which she has been provided with the answers to any potential questions the press may have with under two months left in till the election. Why not let her speak RIGHT NOW? Perhaps because she doesn’t know what to say or worse still she does know what to say and we will not like it.

Left her town Mayoralty with a huge debt, having outspent all around in her (21 MILION in debt)

And, perhaps worst of all, Palin would insist that my 14 daughter carry and birth a rapist’s child

By all means lets talk about these issues
Oh wait that would mean "picking on" poor Mrs. Palin with only 55 days to go in the election.

Posted by: feastorafamine | September 10, 2008 4:21 PM | Report abuse

You can put lipstick on a pit bull (Palin/McCain) but it won’t get you health care or a national energy policy or an economy that puts people to work.


No surprise here. More hypocracy and distortion.


Lying and whining are the only two things the Wingnuts are good at.
.

Posted by: Donna Delbridge | September 10, 2008 4:21 PM | Report abuse

Another underachieving bottom-of-his-class Republican avoiding the issues by embracing Karl Rove campaign tactics. My utter disgust for McCain and Palin increases ten-fold every day. I'm actually starting to despise McCain more than Bush. Never thought that possible before.

Posted by: DogBitez | September 10, 2008 4:21 PM | Report abuse

As McCain campaign manager Rick Davis said in an interview with Post editors last week: "This election is not about issues. This election is about a composite view of what people take away from these candidates."

that's only true if you and yours let it be so, chris. QUIT BEING FRIGGIN' LAZY AND LED BY THE NOSE.

Posted by: sickofitall | September 10, 2008 4:20 PM | Report abuse

I am looking forward to the McCain camp reaction when Obama call them outright liars.

Posted by: joebewildered | September 10, 2008 4:20 PM | Report abuse

Oh, and her smarta$$ misleading lies in her convention speech are perfectly ok?

Anyone with an ounce of intelligence knows Obama was not insulting her on purpose. The Republican party is a joke.

If by the slim chance he was insulting her on purpose- good for him- she looks like a pig.

Posted by: Bill | September 10, 2008 4:19 PM | Report abuse

How can the McCain campaign roll out these claims of sexism with a straight face?

This is a man who voted against the Ledbetter Fair Pay Act, which would remove the 180-day limit for a woman to sue her employer for receiving unequal pay. Nevermind that it usually takes more than 180 to even determine that you are being paid unfairly.

McCain said this act would "overburden" our court system - likely because so many women are still being paid less than men for doing the same work - and noted there were better ways of helping women find well-paying jobs.

"They need the education and training, particularly since more and more women are heads of their households," he said. Of course, this doesn't address the core issue. It's not about finding the jobs, it's about getting compensated fairly once they do, an issue about which McCain obviously does not care.

And when pressed to explain how he did support equal pay, he brought up his support for the Older Workers Benefit Protection Act of 1989, which prohibits discrimination against older workers. Yup, nothing in there about equal pay specifically for women.

I guess this wouldn't be an issue for Gov. Palin were McCain to win, since there would be no other male VP making more money than she. However, it's a very real issue for the rest of the women in America, and this lipstick issue conveniently distracts us from that.

Posted by: John in Mpls | September 10, 2008 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Same old Politics as usual... worrying about lipstick on a pig while we are fighting two wars, Veterans are not being properly taken care of, the potential Military Draft, the economy is faltering, job losses up, mortgages failing, oil/fuel prices skyrocket, food prices skyrocket, our food supply is contaminated, health costs skyrocket, tax breaks for the rich and corporations, beltway corruption, scandals in the Whitehouse, ... for me.. I'd rather have a home and a job than lipstick, but to McSame... he is worried how his soldmate is being treated while she repeats the same old speech written by Bushie writers and then hides. Pathetic campaign if you ask me.

Posted by: Bubba2008 | September 10, 2008 4:18 PM | Report abuse

We are one of the stupidest nations on the face of the earth. Keep it up, GOP. All of our children will be working for Chinese bosses, because the American eejits were distracted by lipstick comments while McBush continued to finance a war with M-A-S-S-I-V-E loans from the Chinese.

But I guess these issues are too big for small minds to comprehend. Lipstick is easier.

Posted by: trace1 | September 10, 2008 4:17 PM | Report abuse

Obama smeared hillary
with sexist remarks,
and drove bill clinton
from the campaign trail
with racial posturing,
he is obviously more
sexist then the average
man, calling that reporter
'sweetheart'?????
is he a married man
and the father of two
daughters?
He doesnt act like it.
He is draggging this race
down. Vote on Character,
vote Nobama!

Posted by: usa3 | September 10, 2008 4:17 PM | Report abuse

I found your article hit it on the head. I epecially found the graph interesting. It explains my mantra. It's not the politicians, it's the voters. I think many voters should ask themselves why didn't see through Bush as a nominee. Why weren't they able to DISCERN who he was. We see what we want to see, hear what we want to hear. It's a frightening that we are here again, waiting for way too many to get it! I just want to shake them by the shoulders! Here's an idea. If you screwed up your vote last time, you don't get to vote next time.

Posted by: Fed up | September 10, 2008 4:17 PM | Report abuse

Does it matter what our nations newpapers print on the top half of the front pages?? Does this mold perception? Of course does.

The MSM/WAPO could choose to write stories about the good things McCain has done or maybe the would choose to write something about the good things Obama has done.
But what they actually write about are things which they believe help their own agenda (no real attempt to hide this) in this case an attempt to shed a bad light on the McCain campaign. Certainly they could have written a hundred different stories about McCain in todays paper. But what you'll see are about five articles about Palin. None of which will be particalarly flatering.

So you ask does the truth matter? Does the MSM/WAPO attempt to influence perceptions. You bet. Certainly balanced reporting doesn't matter on this publication. And apparently, neither do issues that really matter to most Americans, our elitest press core is out to show us (dumb Americans in their view) why we need to be told who to vote for. And apparently since they can't win on the issues their only method available is to beat down Palin on a daily basis and hope they'll get some traction that way.

Posted by: jmd | September 10, 2008 4:17 PM | Report abuse

I wonder who woke John up to tell him about the pig incident?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 4:16 PM | Report abuse

How she can be ready to be vice president when she is not ready to give an interview???!!!

Posted by: simvergonha | September 10, 2008 4:15 PM | Report abuse

This is such a joke. The GOP is got to be kidding. This is a common phrase. McCain Used it towards Clinton Last October.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AU_Z-wm_ngU

GOP BS

Posted by: Hawk | September 10, 2008 4:15 PM | Report abuse

The Greedy Oil Party is probably just upset because lipstick on a pig is one of McCain’s favorite quotes. Perhaps they want to distract from the new Palin revelations in the National Enquirer today.

Posted by: Kim Hart | September 10, 2008 4:14 PM | Report abuse

Am I missing something here? I think the McCain people 'doth protest too much'. Too much free associative thinking on their part and anything to divert attention away from the issues. They have managed to waste another day on the road to the November election, not offering anything of substance other than how indignant they are. They need to apply a little "chap stick" to their ass and get on with it.

Posted by: Bill | September 10, 2008 4:14 PM | Report abuse

IF Obama was actually comparing Palin to a pig,then he should apologize to that pig that he was comparing her too!! Im sure the pig took offense to that..

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 4:13 PM | Report abuse

I followed the Democratic nomination fight very closely and noted on several occasions how Obama managed to regain the narrative in very subtle fashion. I think he knew full well how the McCain campaign would react and has now turned the media spotlight on McCain campaign techniques. The discussion now seems to be centered on the hysterical McCain camp reaction to employing an oft used campaign cliche. Even the tabloid MSM can't pretend to take him seriously on this one.

The Republicans throw wild haymakers hoping one will connect and Obama responds with a little rope-a-dope. He's encouraging the Republicans to drown themselves in their own BS. Well done.

Posted by: joebewildered | September 10, 2008 4:13 PM | Report abuse

I don't watch soap operas, but Palin is a great character and I am enjoying THIS soap opera....Let's call it "The Christian Taliban".

Posted by: julie | September 10, 2008 4:12 PM | Report abuse

"Lipstick on a Pig." Hum... if anyone were really paying attention, they'd know this comment was taken completely out of context and had nothing to do with Sarah Palin; and if it did, I'd say Senator Obama described her perfectly. A heartbeat away from our Presidency? What ARE you people thinking???

Posted by: upacreek | September 10, 2008 4:12 PM | Report abuse

British View of Sarah Palin

I thought you might be interested in this article written for a British newspaper.


http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/columnists/fergus_shanahan/article1647092.ece

Posted by: rtfanning | September 10, 2008 4:11 PM | Report abuse

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I estimate the pig/old fish comment will cost Obama 2 points in the polls.


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Posted by: Jack The Ripper | September 10, 2008 4:10 PM | Report abuse

As McCain campaign manager Rick Davis said in an interview with Post editors last week: "This election is not about issues. This election is about a composite view of what people take away from these candidates."

It's a sound strategy given the major challenges in the political atmosphere for Republicans. The more McCain can make this race about personality and less about issue debates, the better the chances he has to win.

When the campaign manager of a major political candidate is willing to admit that their campaign strategy hinges on diverting our attention from the issues, what does that say about our political process? When the 24 hour news machine repeats a message that is known to be false, what does that say about our free press? When saying something enough times is sufficient to make it a fact, what does that say about our citizens?

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing."


Posted by: swalker1 | September 10, 2008 4:10 PM | Report abuse

NEWSFLASH//////SENATOR MCCAIN BEING TREATED FOR SEVERE CASE OF ALASKAN CRABS///CNN

Posted by: blah blah blah | September 10, 2008 4:09 PM | Report abuse

The problem is that John McCain has adopted the reckless style of General George Armstrong Custer - he is revealing himself as a dangerous man. ............
http://thefiresidepost.com/2008/09/11/john-mccain-is-general-george-armstrong-custer/

Posted by: Ohg Rea Tone | September 10, 2008 4:09 PM | Report abuse

So I see! It seems that it is now up to the media to tell the people that the truth isn't important and that perception is what trumps reality.

The media, and that includes you Chris, should be doing their actual job, instead of constantly pointing at what others should be doing.

Corporate News has got to go. It is as dangerous for this country as anything else. There are no more reporters, just commentators who try and sway public opinion. This scares the heck out of me.

Posted by: Catherine Mc. | September 10, 2008 4:00 PM

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AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am so sick of the media airing spin on each side no matter how wildly innacurate then hosting a panel about who we the American people are going to beleive. Isnt it the job of the media to find the truth? Isnt it the job of the media to call a lie a lie when they see one? If Palin wants to lie about the bridge to nowhere she should be called on it period. If an Obama surrogate lies to the media he or she should be called on it. Since when did the media absolve itself of the truth in favor of endless opinion and spin? Oh wait i remember now.....ever since they became so corperate that they started to care more about ratings and sales then they do the truth. Controversy sells newspapers and gets TV ratings. just take this blog for example.....look at all the comments come rolling in over this NON STORY. The only story here is the media making it one.
NICE JOB CHRIS>>>>YOU WIMP

Posted by: feastorafamine | September 10, 2008 4:07 PM | Report abuse

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John:
"Donate to Obama now!
Write letters to editors now!
Call friends now! "

Need help there, John?


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Posted by: Billw | September 10, 2008 4:07 PM | Report abuse

Hockey mom = ugly frumpy non-minority women

Posted by: ohpleaze | September 10, 2008 4:06 PM | Report abuse

Why is The Washington Post and The New York Times acting like a friggin' tabloid by focusing on this bullsh*t? Can I get some news that's relevant to the survival of our country?! Barack has presented his plans on the issues openly, and focuses on getting that information out at every opportunity. McCain, focuses on anything but the issues every opportunity he gets! McCain supporters should be embarrassed and insulted by McCain's behavior! These are serious times & we need to hear about the issues. So far all McCain has focused on, as far as the issues are concerned, is staying in Iraq. I haven't heard anything else that's relevant to solving the issues with which we struggle. It's evident, based on his record, and this behavior, that McCain doesn't have a clue about what to do to help America get back on track! I'm ready to move forward into peace, prosperity, and opportunity for all. I will be voting for Obama in '08!

Posted by: Really | September 10, 2008 4:06 PM | Report abuse

WHY did McCain automatically think of Palin when he heard 'lipstick on a pig'?

Since the RNC are now hard-core feminists maybe they can help Johnny out with that, as well as finding a more... appropriate way for him to let his wife know he thinks she has too much makeup on.

Posted by: Anon | September 10, 2008 4:06 PM | Report abuse

Obama doesn't need our donations. He has Oprah & her minions.

Posted by: chicagogirl | September 10, 2008 4:06 PM | Report abuse

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Who Cares:
"So screw Palin"

You can't cowboy, you can't even get close.


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Posted by: Jack The RIpper | September 10, 2008 4:05 PM | Report abuse

She's too much of a cow to be a pig.

Posted by: ohpleaze | September 10, 2008 4:05 PM | Report abuse

It's time for Democrats to put their money where there mouth is.

Donate to Obama now!
Write letters to editors now!
Call friends now!

We all need to show that Obama has enormous support and that McCain-Palin-Schmidt are just Bush-Cheney-Rove with lipstick!!

We can't sit back and let these extremists hijack the government for another 4 years!

Posted by: John | September 10, 2008 4:04 PM | Report abuse

BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA

Posted by: BLAHBLAHBLAH | September 10, 2008 4:03 PM | Report abuse

The debates are COMING!!!
The debates are COMING!!!

Then we will see who knows what.
We cant go by interviews,they have already said,in her first interview Palin will cancel if the questioning is not to her liking!!Thats because she cant answer the tough questions without McCain being there!!

Posted by: 1 | September 10, 2008 4:03 PM | Report abuse

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ODE TO OBAMA # 8
So we now have Obama and Joe Biden,
Who claim that Palin is a' hidin'
But she's has just ducked,
So the ONE can self-destruct
While his ratings in the polls are a' slidin.


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Posted by: Billw | September 10, 2008 4:02 PM | Report abuse

"A sound strategy"?
Only for the heirs of Lee Atwater and the press.
McCain is intellectually and morally impaired, and his campaign shows it.

Posted by: henst | September 10, 2008 4:01 PM | Report abuse

Obama makes me laugh, evertime he opens his mouth as a matter of fact. Two more Dems for McCain right here.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 4:01 PM | Report abuse

There are so few black people in Alaska that Obama should run for governor there instead of the lower 48. See how stupid that sounds? Palin should go back to shooting wolves and praying for war in
wasilly.

Posted by: redingtonbill | September 10, 2008 4:00 PM | Report abuse

FOREIGNERS PLEASE LEAVE AMERICAN POLITICS TO AMERICANS! FRANKLY, WE DON'T REALLY C-A-R-E WHAT YOU THINK!!!!!!!!

Posted by: redwhiteandblue | September 10, 2008 4:00 PM | Report abuse

So I see! It seems that it is now up to the media to tell the people that the truth isn't important and that perception is what trumps reality.

The media, and that includes you Chris, should be doing their actual job, instead of constantly pointing at what others should be doing.

Corporate News has got to go. It is as dangerous for this country as anything else. There are no more reporters, just commentators who try and sway public opinion. This scares the heck out of me.

Posted by: Catherine Mc. | September 10, 2008 4:00 PM | Report abuse

Immediate Relief
for American Families
Gas and Food Prices
John McCain will help Americans hurting from high gasoline and food costs. Americans need relief right now from high gas prices. John McCain will act immediately to reduce the pain of high gas prices.

John McCain believes we should send a strong message to world markets. Under his plan, the United States will be telling oil producing countries and oil speculators that our dependence on foreign oil will come to an end - and the impact will be lower prices at the pump.


John McCain's policies will increase the value of the dollar and thus reduce the price of oil. In recent years, the declining value of the dollar has added to the cost of imported oil. This will change. Americans will have a stronger economy, a stronger dollar and greater purchasing power for oil, gas and food.


John McCain believes we should institute a summer gas tax holiday. Hard-working American families are suffering from higher gasoline prices. John McCain called on Congress to suspend the 18.4 cent federal gas tax and 24.4 cent diesel tax from Memorial Day to Labor Day.

Reuters: Gas Tax Holiday "Of Most Immediate Effect To Consumers." "Of most immediate effect to consumers was his appeal to the U.S. Congress to suspend the 18.4 cent federal gas tax and 24.4 cent diesel tax from Memorial Day at the end of May to Labor Day in early September." (Steve Holland, "McCain Proposes Tax Cuts And Lashes Democrats," Reuters, 4/15/08)


USA Today: "A USA TODAY Analysis Showed That McCain's Gas-Tax Proposal Could Save Motorists $6.8 Billion In Taxes During The Summer." (Kathy Kiely, "Gas-Tax Holiday Among McCain's Plans For Economy," USA Today, 4/16/08)


John McCain will repeal the 54 cents per gallon tax on imported sugar-based ethanol, increasing competition, and lowering prices of gasoline at the pump.


John McCain will roll back corn-based ethanol mandates, which are contributing to the rising cost of food.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 4:00 PM | Report abuse

Oh for heaven's sake. Everybody knows that if Obama had been talking about Palin he would have said, "You can't put lipstick on PORK."

Ok, I know the GOP only has a sense of humor when they are being jerks about community organizers, but let me explain this to you.

Sarah Palin was THE most efficient pork gatherer from the federal government in the last several years, either for her town or for her state depending on her office. She's trying to pretend she said "thanks but no thanks" to government pork, when in fact she hired people to go get it for her ("a fine haul" were her exact words).

If she is going to run cry to daddy cuz some boy called her a mean name, she has NO BUSINESS running for national office. Clinton, and Obama, have been through much worse, and they didn't take their ball and go home. Palin should quit with the "little woman" crap already. As one woman to another--you play with the big boys, you better be tough.

Posted by: LiberalTarian | September 10, 2008 3:59 PM | Report abuse

TaoZen, if you're NOT AN AMERICAN, then please get out of this fray. Do us all a favor & concern yourself with your own country's politics.

Posted by: CaliDreamin | September 10, 2008 3:58 PM | Report abuse

I just finished a large book re: A. Lincoln's papers and writings. Findings: Democrats of that day were referred to as 'LOCOS' ... (apt then and now). Also, the mean-spirited democratic style of lies, deception and deceit has long been a tradition of democrats. After reading these factual accounts, I am distressed as to how blacks could ever vote for a democrat, since the locos advocated for NATIONALIZING SLAVERY.

Posted by: Rod Miller | September 10, 2008 3:58 PM | Report abuse

Palin-McCain is the Lipstick!


Failed Republican Policies are the Pig!


Posted by: Oink! | September 10, 2008 3:57 PM | Report abuse

So screw Palin, she may not be a pig, but she's a Taliban witch, and anybody with half a brain can see she's just a polished turd all set to serve America another round of sh*t sandwiches no different than those they've gotten for the past 8 years.
You contards may line up for those sh*t sandwiches and eat them with glee, but anybody with any intelligence can smell a sh*t sandwich some distance away no matter how much lipstick you put on it.

Posted by: Who Cares! | September 10, 2008 3:57 PM | Report abuse

Let's root for truffles at Fort Marcy Park and see what we find.

I'll be the pig with lipstick on.

Posted by: Pig | September 10, 2008 3:57 PM | Report abuse

If I were Obama, I'd get a giant inflatable pig with "GOP' printed on it, and I'd take it on the campaign trail with me. I'd invite people to write on it with lipstick everything that is wrong with the McCain/Palin plan for America.

Posted by: hamishdad | September 10, 2008 3:56 PM | Report abuse

Sarah is......"Atilla the hon-ey."
When Sarah Palin has a "lipstick on a pig"
problem, NO'bama has a "give Dumbo back his ears" problem.
NO'bama's "community organizer" duties were
to lock up after Midnight Basketball.

Posted by: NO'bama fan | September 10, 2008 3:56 PM | Report abuse

Looks like Barack is juuust a little worried about Governor Palin. People don't understand that not even the taxpaying citizens of Illinois know what this man is all about. He voted Present most of the time just to avoid taking a controversial stand on Anything! Unless he manages to grow a set of BALLS, candidate Obama just might want to save the lipstick for himself.

Posted by: Chicago | September 10, 2008 3:56 PM | Report abuse

McCain himself did use the "lipstick on a pig" metaphor when he criticized Hillary Clinton's healthcare plan during the primaries. Now look, Americans, WHO IS THE REAL WHINER!

Posted by: TaoZen | September 10, 2008 3:56 PM | Report abuse

This election is a test to see how stupid and vain the American people are. Anyone who votes for McCain/Palin is an idiot, plain and simple.

McCain is proposing to continue every major Bush policy. If people think the last 8 years have been great, or can't understand that is the GOP that has been failing the country, then they're just stupid, not listening or both. As for Palin, she is the least qualified person to ever run for the VP job. She has not been vetted. She will not be questioned. All of her policy positions align with the far right that has driven this country into a ditch. She is simply not ready to assume such a leadership position. What little we know about her is that she shows a willingness to lie repeatedly, at will. We also know that she was an ineffective small town mayor that left her town in debt.

If people want the Bush train wreck to continue for another 4 years, McCain/Palin is the ticket.

Posted by: Khyber Jones | September 10, 2008 3:55 PM | Report abuse

Sally Quinn's hair style is so yesterday.

Posted by: Hair Stylist | September 10, 2008 3:55 PM | Report abuse

MORE SWIFT BOATING
MORE LIES
MORE SPIN
MORE FAKE CONTROVERSY AND OUTRAGE
MORE MORE MORE KARL ROVE

Mccain also announced his condemnation and outrage of the folowing....
You can lead a horse to water but you cant make it drink
One bird in hand is better than two in the bush
dont count your chickens before they hatch

and more appropriatly...
you cant teach an old dog new tricks

ANYTHING BUT THIS............

Gov. Palin:
Raised taxes as the Gov. of Alaska

Misled America about the Bridge to Nowhere, in her first national speech (She fully supported it and only denounced it after the funding was cut anyhow) and continues to do so as many as four times a day on the campaign stump. She never returned the funds for the Bridge to Nowhere.

A 2006 question to Governor Palin …”Would you continue state funding for the proposed Knik Arm and Gravina Island bridges?”
Answer: “Yes. I would like to see Alaska's infrastructure projects built sooner rather than later. The window is now - while our congressional delegation is in a strong position to assist.”

Wants to teach creationism in Science Class, subverting the US Constitution

Tried to get books banned at the local library

Fired her entire staff 10 days into term as mayor, for lack of loyalty

Used every available lever to get an enemy fired from his job, and is still lying about it

Put a gag order on her administration as mayor of a town of 6500

Milked the Federal Government for huge series of earmarks, by using Jack Abramoff lobbyists. The highest per capita earmarker in the nation: Palin (27 Million for a town of 6500)

Charged 52 earmarks valued at $256 million in her first year as Alaska Governor and 31 earmarks valued at $197 million this year. Considerably HIGHER than Barrack Obama’s Earmark list he released in March of 2008 in the spirit of transparency.

Billed taxpayers in Alaska $43,490 for staying in her own home.

Touts the need to address special needs children but only did so by stepping in at the last minute to support a bill that she was chided for NOT supporting previously despite her sister having a child with autism.

Doesn’t believe in Global Warming

Used Alaska First as her campaign slogan, which is the same one as her husband’s old party, the AIP, a secessionist organization she recorded a supportive piece for this year! She was also the keynote speaker for AIP on several occasions and her husband was an ardent supporter and member of AIP.

The AIP founder Joe Voglar once stated, “I'm an Alaskan, not an American. I've got no use for America or her damned institutions." and "The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government. And I won't be buried under their damn flag. I'll be buried in Dawson. And when Alaska is an independent nation they can bring my bones home."

Wants to ban stem cell research

Is on the record stating the Iraq war ”Is a task from God.”

In July when interviewed about the possibility of being the VP she stated that she did not know what the VP did.

Left her town Mayoralty with a huge debt, having outspent all around in her (21 MILION in debt)

And, perhaps worst of all, Palin would insist that my 14 daughter carry and birth a rapist’s child


Does anyone else find it utterly amazing, mind numbing and surreal that the republicans are running on a change platform borrowed from Obama to storm their own castle??!! Repub chant...."We suck, We Suck but NOW Were Different." This cranky guy cant even operate the internet to read your opinion. But change is coming......ya right like what more trickle down economics, fear mongering, politicizing 9/11 and questioning patriotism? Privatizing anything and everything to line the pockets of your friends? Lying repeatedly to the American people, 3 TRILLION in debt and POOF! A new republican party!!!! transformed from the last eight years and catapulted into the future! Yippeee like Slim Pickens riding the bomb through the sky in Dr Strangelove. Hello Joe McCarthy is that you? Mr. McCarthy would be proud. So would David Blaine. Abracadabra!!

Posted by: feastorafamine | September 10, 2008 3:55 PM | Report abuse

It's not Obama's fault if someone wants to fake offense.
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By Constitution, anyone has the right to say things like "You can make a pit bull swallow a tape-recorder, but it's still a tape-recorder".
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The real offended animal recently are pit bulls for they are innocent of hypocrisy and greed for power, even though they do have real bark and byte that some wish to compare with.
________________________
*I am El Mugroso and I approve this message*

Posted by: El Mugroso | September 10, 2008 3:53 PM | Report abuse

lauretta Jenkins

Sexist? When did Palin ever say; "did you hear the one about the woman..."

Posted by: Helen J. | September 10, 2008 3:52 PM | Report abuse

Well, Flip him a flounder ...
'You can put lipstick on a pig,' he said as the crowd cheered. 'It's still a pig.'
'You can wrap an old fish in a piece of paper called change. It's still gonna stink.'
'We've had enough of the same old thing.'"
... if Obama, talking about the policy of change, did not intend a sexist slur against Sara Palin, then was he not calling McStinky an old fish?

Posted by: Enuff Already | September 10, 2008 3:51 PM | Report abuse

The promise of moose meat on everyones table will be their campaign slogan,that and free Ice for everyone.DRILL DRILL DRILL,yes they definatly need a lobotomy!!

Posted by: 1 | September 10, 2008 3:50 PM | Report abuse

"I did not have sex with that pig"

DNC - "Once again we'll snatch defeat from the jaws of victory"

"Sure hope so, we're countin' on it" :)
- Karl Rove

Posted by: Bill Clinton | September 10, 2008 3:50 PM | Report abuse

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And if a Repub used an expression like "that's the pot calling the kettle black" or all of Obama's principles have vanished into a "black hole," the black community would be screeching and whining, and the MSM would unquestioningly pronounce the speaker racist.

But when it's a sexist slur, women are supposed to take it and go along with the asinine position that sexism doesn't exist and hasn't been a toxic pervasive force in this election.

Women aren't taking it anymore.

Deal with it.
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A.) Ignorance such as this gives a bad name to women
B.) Biting your nose to spite your face is never a good thing. Who do you think really care more about women, Obama, or McCain?

If Obama hates women something tells me he wouldn't be married to an intelligent one, because she would have left him a long time ago.

Posted by: Christine | September 10, 2008 3:50 PM | Report abuse

Bottom lines:

Obama could have chosen Hillary for his Vice President running mate, he didn't.

Obama said he was going to lead an upright campaign as an agent of change, he isn't.

Obama could have made the issue go away with an apology to Palin, he didn't.

In matters of judgement, views on women, and arrogance... Obama continues to demonstrate he isn't ready to lead. He has less effective leadership experience than Palin and it shows.

As Vice President, Palin will represent more change and inspire more women and young women than any American leader has ever done.

That is the bottom line.

Obama, you won't help women and you won't help me.

Posted by: Michelle | September 10, 2008 3:50 PM | Report abuse

FIX you are really giving this round to McCain. Obama needs to run on this, RUN RUN RUN. ITS so absurd and EVERYONE KNOWS IT. HE NEEDS TO SHOW THIS IS OLD STYLE POLITICS AND MAKE THAT A THEME ABOUT HOW MCCAIN IS DOING THIS BECAUSE HE DOSEN'T CARE ABOUT YOUR ECONOMIC CONCERNS!!!! FIX do you really believe McCain is going to win this!?

Posted by: Brian D Adams | September 10, 2008 3:05 PM

http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2008/09/they_cant_be_serious.cfm

Look what the savvy brits thoughts

Posted by: Fix | September 10, 2008 3:50 PM | Report abuse

Every thing you need to know about President Palin is in the Anchorage Daily News, Alaka's biggest newspaper. She acts just like George Bush did in Texas. She is a lot better looking though.

Posted by: redingtonbill | September 10, 2008 3:50 PM | Report abuse

slavin

Why apologize to animals? They are our servants that is why we eat them.

Posted by: Sam | September 10, 2008 3:49 PM | Report abuse

The politics of perception? The politics of idioscrasy I would say. The latest antics of John McCain and the Republican party is pathetic and desperate. The media should note this. The man used a parable or analogy that has been used time and time again in politics. Yet, McCain's desperate and venomous lies about its intentional insult of his pitifully unqualified and reliously fanatic VP choice is lauded by the journalist. Perhaps it is because Palin has a C average degree in journalism.

Posted by: thetruthshallsetyoufree | September 10, 2008 3:49 PM | Report abuse

very interesting

Posted by: mitch | September 10, 2008 3:48 PM | Report abuse

As I see it, the Obama LIPSTICK gaffe is as offensive as the one by a poster a few weeks back when he referred to Michelle Obama as Obama's APE WIFE.

Posted by: Rod Miller | September 10, 2008 3:47 PM | Report abuse

McCAIN "WOLVES" AD:

PERFECT OPENING FOR OBAMA ATTACK AD ABOUT:

PALIN'S WOLF-HUNT 'COPTER KILL
AND LET-THE-POLAR BEARS-DIE POLICIES!

Are the media people working on this? Pick up the phone!

Posted by: Outside the Box | September 10, 2008 3:47 PM | Report abuse


LOL. Now the SC dem chairwoman says of Palin:

"whose primary qualification seems to be that she hasn’t had an abortion"

You idiot dems just can't help it. Your sexism and double standards are bred in the bone. I have never seen such a drastic meltdown in my life.

Posted by: reason | September 10, 2008 3:44 PM | Report abuse

Methinks the pig doth protest too much.

Posted by: hamishdad | September 10, 2008 3:44 PM | Report abuse

Seems hard for me to believe that only Obama supporters can tell the difference between a pig and a pit bull. I believe Palin; it came from her own mouth; she's a pit bull, a female dog . . . not a pig. Hard to believe in this day and age she would be so proud of a sexist joke, but it shows clearly what she thinks of women.

Posted by: lauretta Jenkins | September 10, 2008 3:44 PM | Report abuse

Sen. Obama's comment wouldn't have legs if the press wasn't focused on titillations rather than issues.

There are many stories within this campaign that have been missed, and it is due to the struggle many newspapers and magazines are facing that you descend to the level of running (how many?) words about lipstick on pigs and community organizers being black (I'm white and I am well-known for being a community organizer in my hometown).

In a way, Obama's remark is fortunate. It takes attention from suspect earmarks he requested for state lobbyists, one of which went to a priest who resigned over allegations of sexual misconduct with a child (the name is on the archdiocese of Chicago's official list).

Then there's our current 3rd in line for the presidency. At 91, he goes to sleep on his feet and he's the senior member in more ways than one of the DNC. Check out vids on YouTube and google Byrd's name if you really want a jolt.

And on those issues based voters, don't fool yourself. Middle America knows more about the issues than polls give them credit for. Busy people don't talk to pollsters. And most would rather talk to a pig than a member of the media.

best, Kay B. Day
The US Report

Posted by: Kay B. Day | September 10, 2008 3:43 PM | Report abuse

Obama cannot claim that his "lipstick on a pig" was an innocuous comment. Who can forget his supercilious comment "You are likable enough, Hillary"? Arrogance and narcissism is inbuilt into his genes. He talks down to ordinary people, carefully avoiding making such behavior only with fellow blacks who blindly support him caring a damn for Obama's position on issues.

McCain is right in making an issue out of this latest insulting comment from Obama. Apart from exposing Obama's nervousness at the Sarah Palin phenomenon which has completely upset his game plan,it shows the success of the Republican strategy of equating Obama with Sarah Palin!!!! This leaves McCain above the fray and repeatedly plug his theme of courage and character while Palin has drawn massive support from whites in general, women in particular. Hillary supporters now have an added reason to vote McCain.

Posted by: Espi | September 10, 2008 3:43 PM | Report abuse

Enough about sexist comments. How about the real sex that's been going in in the Interior Department Minerals Management Services. This is the agency that collects royalties from oil and gas companies. Apparently employees have been engaged in sexual activities with those companies. As the Inspector general's report says "The same two women also “engaged in brief sexual relationships with industry contacts,” the reports’ cover memo said, adding that “sexual relationships with prohibited sources cannot, by definition, be arms-length.”

Posted by: NoVA | September 10, 2008 3:42 PM | Report abuse

Republicans have been in office almost 8yrs now,we couldnt be in any worse shape.Oh yeah lets give them another 4yrs!!maybe we can be a third world country if we keep on.Geez,where have you people been living?If you havent noticed the changes,then you havent been paying attention.

Posted by: 1 | September 10, 2008 3:42 PM | Report abuse

Palin needs to apologize to wolves and pitbulls.

Posted by: slavin | September 10, 2008 3:42 PM | Report abuse

"hey, Chris, this post could have been a lot shorter.

"McCain campaign wants people to believe something that isn't true. We help them.""

So true. So sad.

Posted by: tourist | September 10, 2008 3:41 PM | Report abuse

Chris, you fat-faced idiot, don't equivocate on what appears to be a smear campaign by the neocon run McSame campaign. One would expect that journalists, atleast the serious ones, and you don't seem to be in that category, take a clear position and explain to the public the misinformation circulated in the meadia.

Posted by: Venkat | September 10, 2008 3:40 PM | Report abuse

Sen. Obama brought this controversy onto himself by failing to review his stump speech after the Republican convention and then make appropriate changes in response to the selection of Governor Palin. Even though unintended, Gov. Palin's pitbull with lipstick matches up well with Obama's pig with lipstick, and his "old fish in new paper" matches up well with McCain at 72 years old and his many years as a Senate republican. The line wouldn't have been nearly as funny to the audience without these visual connections.

His brilliance and Harvard Law School degree don't seem to have given him the common sense to drop the "arugula" lines and stale jokes when they are no longer appropriate or are not working any more.

Posted by: Lawyer Mike | September 10, 2008 3:39 PM | Report abuse

Palin's performance during debates in 2006 and her answering reporters questions when "troopergate" broke in Alaska are in video form all over the internet. She is no slouch at slinging B.S. Why are her handlers hiding her? It fits in with their "sexual harrassment" by the media which is "liberally biased" storyline. Where's hillary when you need her? Waiting for 2012.

Posted by: bill redington | September 10, 2008 3:39 PM | Report abuse

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maria:
"he has to cheat because he was a POW and so he deserved to have a good time! "

Hey, were you there so you KNOW who cheated first?


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Posted by: Jack The Ripper | September 10, 2008 3:38 PM | Report abuse

S.C. Dem chair: Palin primary qualification is she hasn't had an abortion

South Carolina Democratic chairwoman Carol Fowler sharply attacked Sarah Palin today, saying John McCain had chosen a running mate " whose primary qualification seems to be that she hasn’t had an abortion.”

Palin is an opponent of abortion rights and gave birth to her fifth child, Trig, earlier this year after finding out during her pregnancy that the baby had Down syndrome.

Fowler told my colleague Alex Burns in an interview that the selection of an opponent of abortion rights would not boost McCain among many women.

“Among Democratic women and even among independent women, I don’t think it helped him,” she said.

Posted by: StopCrudeObama | September 10, 2008 3:38 PM | Report abuse

The Keating Five were five United States Senators accused of corruption in 1989, igniting a major political scandal as part of the larger Savings and Loan crisis of the late 1980s and early 1990s. The five senators, Alan Cranston (D-CA), Dennis DeConcini (D-AZ), John Glenn (D-OH), John McCain (R-AZ), and Donald W. Riegle (D-MI), were accused of improperly aiding Charles H. Keating, Jr., chairman of the failed Lincoln Savings and Loan Association, which was the target of an investigation by the Federal Home Loan Bank Board (FHLBB).

The U.S. Savings and Loan crisis of the 1980s and 1990s was the failure of 747 savings and loan associations (S&Ls) in the United States. The ultimate cost of the crisis is estimated to have totaled around $160.1 billion, about $124.6 billion of which was directly paid for by the U.S. taxpayer.[1].

The concomitant slowdown in the finance industry and the real estate market may have been a contributing cause of the 1990-1991 economic recession. Between 1986 and 1991, the number of new homes constructed per year dropped from 1.8 million to 1 million, the lowest rate since World War II.[2]

The Keating Five scandal was prompted by the activities of one particular savings and loan: Lincoln Savings and Loan Association of Irvine, California. Lincoln's chairman was Charles Keating, who ultimately served five years in prison for his corrupt mismanagement of Lincoln.[3] In the four years since Keating's American Continental Corporation (ACC) had purchased Lincoln in 1984, Lincoln's assets had increased from $1.1 billion to $5.5 billion.[4] Such savings and loan associations had been deregulated in the early 1980s, allowing them to make highly risky investments with their depositors' money, a change of which Keating took advantage.[4] Lincoln's investments took the form of buying land, taking equity positions in real estate development projects, and buying high-yield junk bonds.[5]

McCain and Keating had become personal friends following their initial contacts in 1981.[8] Between 1982 and 1987, McCain had received $112,000 in political contributions from Keating and his associates.[14] In addition, McCain's wife Cindy McCain and her father Jim Hensley had invested $359,100 in a Keating shopping center in April 1986, a year before McCain met with the regulators. McCain, his family, and their baby-sitter had made nine trips at Keating's expense, sometimes aboard Keating's jet. Three of the trips were made during vacations to Keating's opulent Bahamas retreat at Cat Cay. McCain did not pay Keating (in the amount of $13,433) for some of the trips until years after they were taken, when he learned that Keating was in trouble over Lincoln.[6][15]

The core allegation of the Keating Five affair is that Keating had made contributions of about $1.3 million to various U.S. Senators, and he called on those Senators to help him resist regulators. The regulators backed off, to later disastrous consequences.

Posted by: Truth Maverick | September 10, 2008 3:37 PM | Report abuse

I want to propose an economic model. If the middle class (the big 95 % of us) earn more money -- we'll go shopping. We'll spend the extra money. We'll spend it in stores and on lawyers and doctors and etc. The richer people will get the benefit. Even if the richer people pay a slightly higher tax, what they get to keep will go up. PROSPERITY WILL TRICKLE UP. In fact, a long time
ago, this idea was an American invention ... Henry Ford started it.
He knew the workers needed enough salary to pay for their cars.
The "trickle-down theory" is wrong and has failed the last three decades of testing.

Posted by: Richaado/California | September 10, 2008 3:37 PM | Report abuse

Bruce, at dinner tonight, make sure you point out that McCain used the phrase himself at least twice when referring to Sen. Clinton's health care plan.

Posted by: John in Mpls | September 10, 2008 3:37 PM | Report abuse

Well then go live in Euro. If you dont like American then you can GET OUT!

FIX you are really giving this round to McCain. Obama needs to run on this, RUN RUN RUN. ITS so absurd and EVERYONE KNOWS IT. HE NEEDS TO SHOW THIS IS OLD STYLE POLITICS AND MAKE THAT A THEME ABOUT HOW MCCAIN IS DOING THIS BECAUSE HE DOSEN'T CARE ABOUT YOUR ECONOMIC CONCERNS!!!! FIX do you really believe McCain is going to win this!?

Posted by: Brian D Adams | September 10, 2008 3:05 PM

http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2008/09/they_cant_be_serious.cfm

Look what the savvy brits thoughts

Posted by: Bibblybob | September 10, 2008 3:36 PM | Report abuse

I see from reading the other comments that I'm not the only one that feels Chris is having it both ways.
Chris; what do you believe is the truth? will you tell us? It especially won't matter what Obama says he meant if you won't put your opinion on the line.
Time to stand up Chris.

Posted by: mike | September 10, 2008 3:36 PM | Report abuse

Once again, the Republicans have captured the media. Flashback of the Bush race. Let's see: McCain and Palin are the MAVERICKS,and Obama is an out of touch elitist. Now, he's calling national candidates a PIG apparently. And the media carries this drivel. Let Palin stand up and say he called her a PIG. Ya wanna piss with the big dogs (pitbulls or otherwise) ya best develop a thicker hide. And, oh yeah, Obama that intellectual elitist thinks its the height of sophistry to use a cliche like lipstick on a pig in order to call a VP candidate a PIG. I'd be laughing my ass off at the irony but I just read the posts on the FOX website, and they are definitely riding this pony as long as they possibly can. Talk about name-calling.

Posted by: tourist | September 10, 2008 3:35 PM | Report abuse

.

Rainierman"
"Obama is self-destructing as we watch!
The problem for him is that he is indeed an empty suit with no answers."

No, a monkey in a three piece suit.


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Posted by: Jack The Ripper | September 10, 2008 3:35 PM | Report abuse

If McCain and Palin are even close to being as smart as George and Dick,God help us,we are in DEEP S--T..

Posted by: 1 | September 10, 2008 3:35 PM | Report abuse

So why do reporters keep falling for this crap? Why not ignore stuff like "lipstick on a pig"? Blaming the "skill" of the McCain campaign is bogus.

Posted by: john Howard | September 10, 2008 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Get to know Mccain! I think no self respecting person could vote for this unstable and foul man. Here it is!
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/McCain_temper_boiled_over_in_92_0407.html

Posted by: Jake | September 10, 2008 3:34 PM | Report abuse

"Sarah Palin has 5 Children and a Husband; that's 7 times $3200 or $22,400 a year under present Oil prices going into Sarah's bank account."

I'm pretty sure you'd have to be at least 18 and perhaps not a tax dependent in order to receive this stipend.

She received more in per diem than she did from oil revenues.

It also doesn't matter. She's not running for president. You don't hear us talking about Biden like this. As long as Republicans and Democrats are talking about Gov. Palin and not the issues, McCain wins, as Chris points out in this post.

Posted by: John in Mpls | September 10, 2008 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Europes great, why not live there. If you dont like american then GET OUT.

FIX you are really giving this round to McCain. Obama needs to run on this, RUN RUN RUN. ITS so absurd and EVERYONE KNOWS IT. HE NEEDS TO SHOW THIS IS OLD STYLE POLITICS AND MAKE THAT A THEME ABOUT HOW MCCAIN IS DOING THIS BECAUSE HE DOSEN'T CARE ABOUT YOUR ECONOMIC CONCERNS!!!! FIX do you really believe McCain is going to win this!?

Posted by: Brian D Adams | September 10, 2008 3:05 PM

http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2008/09/they_cant_be_serious.cfm

Look w

Posted by: bibblybob | September 10, 2008 3:33 PM | Report abuse

I see from reading the other comments that I'm not the only one that feels Chris is having it both ways.
Chris; what do you believe is the truth? will you tell us? It especially won't matter what Obama says he meant if you won't put your opinion on the line.
Time to stand up Chris.

Posted by: mike | September 10, 2008 3:33 PM | Report abuse

Lets see McCain and Palin cry and scream about the press picking on their non qualified V.P. and ticket.
McCain and Palin crybaby about lipstick comment referring to their no ideas crooked express.
McCain and Palin steal the election and get us into another world war.
Cue this ad was paid by John McMean.

Posted by: Scary E. Scenario | September 10, 2008 3:33 PM | Report abuse

Obama is right its the same old story from the Bush days get people distracted from the fact that you dont know any thing about the economy and Sarah Palin was put on the VP slot by the Oil companies and she lied about the bridge to no where and left a small city of 9000 with $22 million in debt that means if she becomes president when Mccain dies we will all have to pay $200K each in the national debt as that is what she will run it up trying to build a pipeline from alaska to the union states. Gosh this stufff shouldnt be talked about demand the media to talk about the bridge to no where demand the media to focus on the issues not the politics of the right.

Posted by: joel | September 10, 2008 3:32 PM | Report abuse

Just more crap to avoid substance and hide the potential veep. This is way way out of whack. Republicans are just scared to to really talk issues.

Posted by: IronMike | September 10, 2008 3:32 PM | Report abuse

Yes, Big Mama. John McCain picks HIS women according to simple, high standards:

Bathing suit Model ( until she gets disfigured, so he has to cheat because he was a POW and so he deserved to have a good time!)

Trophy-bride Beer Heiress (what better way to fund a new political career!)

VP Choice/Token Female Desperation Move- a former Pageant Queen ( runner-up ) with zero foreign policy experience ( but hey, she kept the baby so she's okay!). But don't let her give an interview until she has been "taught" how to answer actual questions.

McCain has just SO much faith in women. I just can't figure out why he has such an abysmal voting record on women's issues, like Equal Pay.

If you want to talk about "perception", I think the real Pig is McCain

Posted by: Maria | September 10, 2008 3:32 PM | Report abuse

Regarding the video ad.
LEAVE WOLVES OUT OF IT. Palin has already done way too much to destroy this wonderful animal in the face of her negative and uninformed view of the beautiful and strong animal.

Other, you could look at this as a compliment to the Obama/Biden campaign, associating them with this brave and beautiful species.

Posted by: weeza | September 10, 2008 3:32 PM | Report abuse

I have a sample of only one viewer's reaction (my wife's). We happened to be together when she first heard of this (without the usual MSM run-up and packaging). She turned to me and said "He said whaaaaat??" So I probed a bit pointing out what I'd heard about how BHO has used the phrase before in the campaign and it is an old phrase etc. Her response was simple, she put her face into mine and said, with a bit of viciousness, "Who, jerk, is the species and sex that REALLY ACTUALLY EVER uses lipstick? Do pigs ever actually use lipstick? You use that phrase, you really actually only mean me!" I don't think my wife is an extremeist of any sort. So, regardless of how BHO, the MSM, or the GOP try to package or exploit the remark, she's made up her mind it is sexist I guess. [I don't dare ask right now.]

Posted by: Bruce | September 10, 2008 3:31 PM | Report abuse

i cant believe how ignorant you people are.this is such a stupid think. he was talking about covering things up. you ignorant republicans have done nothing but mud sling. don't we teach our kids not to do this. and our countries leaders do it all the time. its stupid. and i am also tired of hearing about what a hero mccain is. a hero for what. so what he was a prisoner so was a lot of people. hero's save people. all him being a prisoner did was show everyone he was a bad pilot. nothing more. sorry, my opinion. the firefighters that went into the world trade center,, yes hero's. prisoners of war not hero's. unfortunate yes, hero no.

Posted by: irving goldsack | September 10, 2008 3:30 PM | Report abuse

Away from the pig comment for a minute. I have a fair amount of friends who were strong on Ron Paul. Now they're backing Barack Obama because they know McCain-Palin would be a disaster. It would be great if Ron Paul would come out and endorse Obama, but that probably won't happen.

Posted by: Gary Dupree | September 10, 2008 3:30 PM | Report abuse

I have to respond to this one. It's crunch time. Sen. Obama is showing his inexperience in campaigning if he didn't think the GOP was going to jump all over the "lipstick" gaffe. Yes, it's a common expression UNTIL Sarah Palin used it memorably in her speech. It was memorable and, of course, people are going to immediately associate that simple word with her. He should have been smarter especially at this stage in the campaign. Innocent expressions like the one used or how about "calling a spade a spade" take on a whole new meaning now. No one would dare say that one! In a perfect world it would be all about issues, but gender and class always played a part with Obama and the GOP. Just ask Bill Clinton. He's still waiting for his apology for being labeled a racist during the primaries. The guy has an office in Harlem! He should have expected this reaction and they'll play it out as long as need be. He's getting a dose of his own medicine.

Posted by: Lisa, San Dimas, CA | September 10, 2008 3:30 PM | Report abuse

Just more crap to avoid substance and hide the potential veep. This is way way out of whack. Republicans are just scared to to really talk issues.

Posted by: IronMike | September 10, 2008 3:29 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Feast or What?
Feast - Please lay out OBAMA's or YOUR ECONOMIC MODEL
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Are you kidding me????/ REALLY? You cant comment on my post but instead ask for a legnthy open ended answer to what my or Obama's economic model is? Sure i will get right on that. I'll get back to you in an hour after put together a comprehensive listing of every corner of the free market...or perhaps you could just go here..
http://www.barackobama.com/issues/economy/

That might be a tad easier i would think. dedicating the next hour of my life to answer your question is not top on my list of things to do. Care to comment on supply-side economics? Care to comment on anything i have said in terms of policy?

Posted by: feastorafamine | September 10, 2008 3:29 PM | Report abuse

Obama really was talking about McCain's policies and didn't plan to call Palin a pig. He thought he was so clever to play off her words- and I think he surprised himself when the audience caught it the way they did. He immediately thought "Oh, how clever an I????" I'm surprised he didn't follow it up by saying something stupid like - "Yeah, Yeah- and, and, you can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear".

Posted by: Tulsa | September 10, 2008 3:29 PM | Report abuse

"Alaska residents each get a yearly check for about $2,000 from oil revenues, plus an additional $1,200 pushed through by Palin last year to take advantage of rising oil prices."

Sarah Palin has 5 Children and a Husband; that's 7 times $3200 or $22,400 a year under present Oil prices going into Sarah's bank account.

I could do with a near 50% pay increase; how about you?

What benefits Sarah Palin also benefits Alaskans. It will also be passed on to our fuel bills in the future.

Posted by: Donaldd | September 10, 2008 3:28 PM | Report abuse

A SOCK PUPPET WITH LIPSTICK IS STILL A...

OR, THE WASHINGTON PRESS CORPS AS DUPES


While the media dwells on pigs and pitbulls and lipstick, Sarah Palin is being briefed on world and national affairs by a team of right-wing neo-cons led by the likes of Randy Schunemann and other neo-conservative "Project for a New American Century" all-stars.

Where are the stories in the mainstream media about the neo-cons who appear to have muscled John McCain to put this right-wing ideologue on the ticket?

Posted by: Outside the Box | September 10, 2008 3:28 PM | Report abuse

DO NOT believe that Barack Obama didn't mean to do this!

He gave that little "innocent" pause so that his audience had a chance to "get" it. Their laughter gives it away.

This is BHO's MO.
Back when 10 Democrats were still running, Barack Obama was introduced by Chris Rock at a fundraiser at the Apollo Theater in Harlem. Rock told the audience that they would be "embarrassed" if they voted for "the white lady."

I called the Obama campaign to tell them that the comment was offensive.
The person who answered the phone told me to "lighten up."

That's the day I decided I would never vote for this hypocrite.

Would Obama have thought it funny if any of the other candidates had told an audience that they would be embarrassed if they voted for the black guy?

No, there would have been hell to pay for the "racists."

Barack Obama is the touchiest son-of-a gun in this election when it comes to race. He managed to somehow make Bill and Hillary Clinton into racists before he and his gang of thugs were done with them.

But it seems that, somehow, when people are offended by his sexism, they are just "touchy" or having a "periodic" bad day.

And why can't he just apologize???
He made Hillary apologize over both her LBJ & MLK comments, and the RFK incident mentioned in the column.

DO NOT BELIEVE this was unintentional.

Barack Obama has done this kind of stuff his entire political career, especially to women.

He's just getting CAUGHT at it now.

Posted by: Jan | September 10, 2008 3:28 PM | Report abuse

so what?? she consider heself a pitbull, gimme a break.. so if Obama would have say a 'pitbull with a lipstick is still a pitbull' that would have been appropirate. omg are these people serious?
THEY CAN TWIST IT AS THEY LIKE BUT 8 IS ENOUGH!
EIGHT IS ENOUGH!
8 IS ENOUGH!
8 IS ENOUGH!
8 IS ENOUGH!

Posted by: PAT | September 10, 2008 3:27 PM | Report abuse

I will actually be voting for McCain and Palin simply because she is hot, it's the most positive thing I see coming from either camp. Both sides are full of crap. I would like to look at a perty face while I'm getting screwed how bout you?

Posted by: HAHA | September 10, 2008 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Rainierman said, "It's easy to talk about problems that need to be fixed, but without articulating your planned solution to the problem, people just yawn."

Funny, this is exactly what the McCain campaign is doing. Only people are not yawning, they're fawning.

Posted by: John in Mpls | September 10, 2008 3:27 PM | Report abuse

I would say if the lipstick fits wear it,if they think Obama was talking about Palin,maybe they have a complex about something,huh?

Posted by: 1 | September 10, 2008 3:27 PM | Report abuse

How does it feel to have your election slipping away you liberal socialist losers

Posted by: hahahaha | September 10, 2008 3:26 PM | Report abuse

Chris,
It seems to me that you are an active participent in this "drama". You write a story about this expression, you note that Obama used it before Palin was on the ticket. You say you find it "difficult to believe Obama meant it as insult" but you just can't say one way or the other.
Excuse me Chris, but you need to look for the truth, not a plausably "neutral" position. If all you're doing is repeating what the candidates say - we don't need that. They have lots of money and they will make sure we know what they think.
You need to look harder for the truth and then say it - that's what the country needs!

Posted by: mike | September 10, 2008 3:26 PM | Report abuse

McCain is lying through his teeth, and Chris, while gently acknowledging that what McCain's saying isn't true, has predictably decided to applaud his brilliant use of the "politics of perception" rather than call a lie a lie.

Posted by: aleks | September 10, 2008 3:26 PM | Report abuse

Smoke and mirrors and obfuscation, are the hallmarks of the McCain/Rove/Bush strategy. McCain thinks he'll get elected without debates, and his running mate Palin without talking to anyone. If the American public elects these morons, they deserve them. McCain got a free ride on the Keating 5, as his wife did on the same and her personal habits. Palin was for the bridge to nowhere, and preferred a sports arena as mayor of Wasilla (BFE) to public sewers. I tell you that our governor would be a hero, if he handed out thousands of dollars in rebates. My state refines 3 million barrels of crude a day and is responsible for 23% of our countries natural gas. We also are about to go into production of our countries newest state of art refinery (Marathon Oil). We get chump change for it, and a destroyed
coastline. Palin's against contraception, and the choice of abortion in incest cases. Just who I want one step behind the throne of a 72 year old man, who's battle malignant melanoma. Which happened to kill my father. I wasn't on the Obama express in the opening rounds, but now I'm 100% behind him and I've always liked Biden. It's all net, to me.

Posted by: Sean L. | September 10, 2008 3:26 PM | Report abuse

McCain's campaign is being directed by several big business lobbyists and the writer of Palin's acceptance speech Karl Rove. These are the same people who have driven G.W. Bush's administration... so much for the "Change" mantra McCain has co-opted. Their false outrage and lies are all too familiar.

It's the same old attack dog politics and has Karl Rove's imprompteur all over it... the only difference is that now they've put lipstick on their vile pit bull and the lipstick is Sarah Palin.

Posted by: Michael A. | September 10, 2008 3:25 PM | Report abuse

Just a point to consider: This country has tremendous problems, and one of them is race. If Obama were elected, it would be a tremendous boost for minorities. Kids wouldn't fear looking "white" or "too smart" because they did their studies. Young men who rebel against a society where they are born into poverty and didn't grow into productive adult hood, just might realize they can make something of themselves if they walk away from the street corner. For the conservatives, it would dampen the "excuse" of feeling disadvantaged by race. Not a game changer, but a point for Obama.

Posted by: WaPoReader | September 10, 2008 3:25 PM | Report abuse

Chris;

Please, oh please, pass on to your pals in the media that the dust-up by the McCain forces is NOT directed at Obama, it is directed at the media. Their summer message of experience did not work and they had to find a new strategy. "What would Rove have us do?" Rove: "find a wedge". The wedge: the media.

The choice of Palin from the start was a stroke (unfortunately) of political genius. She was a perfect means to take the coverage of the campaigns away from issues and onto personality. They started from the beginning of warning the media to be careful; making them the devil. She keeps telling the same lies about the Bridge to Nowhere and other things just daring you to call her on it. Is the media supposed to be unbiased; absolutely. But you still have an obligation to call a lie a lie. Quit letting baffoons with no message take you away from the real messages.

Posted by: manopeace | September 10, 2008 3:24 PM | Report abuse

after sarah pig and bristol pig dropped their piglets last year, farmer palin pig wanted his pigs pregnant again (something about the republican doctrine of pumping out as many babies as you can and all that sh*t), so he took sarah pig and bristol pig down the road to farmer johns pig breeding farm.

farmer john told farmer palin pig that if sarah pig and bristol pig got pregnant they would be grazing in the morning, something pigs don't do if they aren't pregnant.

farmer palin pig said, "great!" and left them at farmer john's pig farm so that they could have some fun with farmer johns pig studs over the course of the afternoon...

later that day palin pig picked up sarah pig and bristol pig and took them home hoping they got pregnant.

in the morning, farmer palin pig looked out the window, and sarah pig and bristol pig weren't grazing, so he said, "shoot, neither of them got pregnant", so he took the sarah pig and bristol pig back down the road to farmer john's pig breeding farm.

after a day of sarah pig and bristol pig getting porked (pun intended) farmer palin pig took his two fine alaskan sows home expecting them to be pregnant.

in the morning, farmer palin pig asked his friend, "hey friend? look out the window, and tell me if sarah pig or bristol pig are grazing.... that would mean they are pregnant, and i won't have to take them to farmer john's pig breeding farm today.. i just don't have the heart to look..."

palin pig's friend answered, "friend? well sarah pig and bristol pig sure aren't grazing.. but they are both in the cab of your pickup and sarah pig is blaring the horn for you to come out... she and bristol pig sure seem awful anxious to go somewhere!"

Posted by: BOB | September 10, 2008 3:24 PM | Report abuse

McCain twice used the "lipstick on a pig" line in reference to Hillary Clinton's health care plan. There was no outrage, as it was clear he was referring to the policy, not the person.

In these ads, though, the quote is truncated and recontextualized so that the viewer, having not seen or heard Sen. Obama's speech in Virginia, would be led to believe the common expression was in reference to Gov. Palin personally, not Sen. McCain's policies.

It may be transparent to many, but it seems to be working. The smoke screen was created a few weeks ago when McCain picked Palin, and it doesn't look to be clearing.

If the Obama campaign is a pack of wolves, perhaps Alaskans will be allowed to hunt them from airplanes.

Posted by: John in Mpls | September 10, 2008 3:24 PM | Report abuse

It does not matter, God is on our side and when I move the White House up to Alaska, my people will all be safe when the rapture brings us all to Heaven, while we watch all the rest burn in the fire of our righteousness.

Posted by: PALIN 08 | September 10, 2008 3:23 PM | Report abuse

They also reported this moring that for the last 19 months Palin has been charging the state of alaska for expenses,even when shes at home.plus she charges expenses to take her husband and kids along on business trips!!

Posted by: 1 | September 10, 2008 3:23 PM | Report abuse

Somebody please wake me!!!

People come on for crying out loud! I feel as if I am in the twilight zone or something. And you wonder why the rest of the world feels that are americans are morons. Who gives a frying fig about this lipstick crap. The Republicans should be ashamed of themselves and all of these posters that are falling into that crap are going to wake up, if McCain and Rosanne gets in, and find themselves with no more than two nickels in their pocket and their kids are love ones off to war once again. Can we please talk about what is ailing this country and leave the other crap out. Let me hear what the Republicans plan to do and cut out all of these juvenile campaign commercials. Is this really who you all want to run this country! Please, NO MORE BS!!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 3:23 PM | Report abuse

McBush/Princess Palin!!!!There's the thinking mans ticket. If anyone doubts that this ticket will bring us McSame they need only watch the newest ads brought to you by "Bush's Boys" and "Turdblossom". Never a word about the issues just slander, libel and lies. JUST MCSAME

Posted by: Hockey Mom | September 10, 2008 3:22 PM | Report abuse

No offense given by Obama.
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“lipstick on a pig” is a parable from the Book of Malachia, and parables are interpreted individually, as the shoe fits, and as per each one's mental state.
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Unfortunately, some “don’t get it”, like Chenney, McCain and all of Bush’s disciples, except maybe for Judass, who immediately point to a distraction, rather than the issues at hand.
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Let's not allow the Deceiver misguide us into a straw in order to get us squashed by an elephant.
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*I am El Mugroso, and I approve this message*

Posted by: El Mugroso | September 10, 2008 3:22 PM | Report abuse

Obama hasn't apologised, because describing John McCain calling his policies 'change' as putting lipstick on a pig isn't something he should have to apologise for.

Obama. Did. Not. Mention. Palin.

How hard is that to grasp? The ONLY link to Palin is that she used the word 'lipstick' the week before. That's it. But Palin using the word doesn't mean ANY other use of the word now refers to her!

Posted by: Aengil | September 10, 2008 3:22 PM | Report abuse

Perhaps the pit-bull might like to actually answer an unfiltered question from a reporter one day so that she might prove that she is capable of doing it.

All I have seen of her is the same empty, prepared speech she gave to the RNC, full of the same lies. She should worry about "perception" because people are starting to see that there is no "there there".

Posted by: I won't vote for a Hockey Mom who shoots things for fun | September 10, 2008 3:22 PM | Report abuse

Feast - Please lay out OBAMA's or YOUR ECONOMIC MODEL

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Spare us your supply-side trickle down economic BS. The rich dont care about passing on their good fortune. Corperations are beholden to one thing only....
their stockholders.
If it saves money they will...
lay off the workforce and ship jobs over seas
Do cost/benefit anylasis of everything despite any moral impications
Find any loophole
Pass on ANY costs to ANYONE but themselves
The free market isnt patriotic. It isnt pro American, it does not care for anything or anyone other than a profit.

This trickle down economic policy you are still trumpeting is akin to saying the world is flat. Wake up buddy this isnt 1980 we have enough history now to determine what the free market does if left to handle such issues. Not only that we have the dreadful economy to show how worthless your theory is.

Posted by: feastorafamine | September 10, 2008 3:17 PM

Posted by: Feast or What? | September 10, 2008 3:21 PM | Report abuse

Maybe they will do a lipstick issue with nothing but lipstick on watcha think? She's definitely a hottie Obamya's a nottie

Posted by: HAHA | September 10, 2008 3:21 PM | Report abuse

Obama is self-destructing as we watch! The Republicans can simply watch him destroy himself. He has nothing to offer us, so the only thing he can talk about is how he, The Appointed One, is being unfairly attacked. The problem for him is that he is indeed an empty suit with no answers. It's easy to talk about problems that need to be fixed, but without articulating your planned solution to the problem, people just yawn. We are all waking up to the fact that Obama is a decent speaker with no message, no answers, no chance.

This may be the first presidential election in which one of the candiates, Obama, becomes so humiliated that he resigns before the election.

Posted by: Rainierman | September 10, 2008 3:21 PM | Report abuse

Well said sir!

Brian Adams: FIX you are really giving this round to McCain. Obama needs to run on this, RUN RUN RUN. ITS so absurd and EVERYONE KNOWS IT. HE NEEDS TO SHOW THIS IS OLD STYLE POLITICS AND MAKE THAT A THEME ABOUT HOW MCCAIN IS DOING THIS BECAUSE HE DOSEN'T CARE ABOUT YOUR ECONOMIC CONCERNS!!!! FIX do you really believe McCain is going to win this issue!?


http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2008/09/they_cant_be_serious.cfm

Look what the savvy Brits are saying, they are giving this round to Obama big time.

Posted by: Mr. Pennybottom | September 10, 2008 3:21 PM | Report abuse

What was that noise? It was Hillary getting run over again. How could Obama be that clueless with his comments? I guess he can't. When you see a pattern about how someone feels about women can you deny it? Should you? I can't, I live in the real world. No Obama, You're not doing women any favors. McCain sure is, he din't have to choose a woman but he risked it.

Posted by: Big Mama | September 10, 2008 3:21 PM | Report abuse

Guess mccain tried to lipstick the pig, too! Why is this different, and when is he going to apologize to hillary?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BR8IhMMhe8w

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 3:20 PM | Report abuse

Dear Sean,

Hello I am your job, I will be departing you when Senator Obama is elected.

You see he has raised taxes on my company, and made it and uncompetitve capilist environment, So he decided to cut me...

Posted by: Sean's Job | September 10, 2008 3:19 PM | Report abuse

Which is why we need to stick to issues rather than personality. Nothing Obama can do will make him win the battle over personality. The policies of the Dem party are superior to the policies of the Rep party and that is how we should frame the race.

Barak won the primaries playing the perception game- not just the June remarks, but also "fairytale" and the Bosnia thing. The played into the already established narrative of HRC as lady McBeth. Time to drop identity politics and stick to policy politics. Drop some of the rhetoric and demonstrate actual ideas/policies. That is how we can win

Leon

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 3:19 PM | Report abuse

Does putting lipstick on a pitbull make it a reformer?

Posted by: Rich | September 10, 2008 3:19 PM | Report abuse

Palin is hot maybe she'll do a white house swim suit issue or sompin

Posted by: HAHA | September 10, 2008 3:17 PM | Report abuse

Tax cuts for 95% of American's !!!

That is is the biggest joke ever...

Got news for you..

The rich create jobs

Corporations don't pay taxes, they pass them on to consumers

Why are you liberals outraged that OBAMA want to dig into your pocket and give it to someone else?

He call's it being neighborly

It is WEALTH REDISTRIBUTION

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Spare us your supply-side trickle down economic BS. The rich dont care about passing on their good fortune. Corperations are beholden to one thing only....
their stockholders.
If it saves money they will...
lay off the workforce and ship jobs over seas
Do cost/benefit anylasis of everything despite any moral impications
Find any loophole
Pass on ANY costs to ANYONE but themselves
The free market isnt patriotic. It isnt pro American, it does not care for anything or anyone other than a profit.

This trickle down economic policy you are still trumpeting is akin to saying the world is flat. Wake up buddy this isnt 1980 we have enough history now to determine what the free market does if left to handle such issues. Not only that we have the dreadful economy to show how worthless your theory is.

Posted by: feastorafamine | September 10, 2008 3:17 PM | Report abuse

Oh get over it,they reported this morning that Dick Cheney said the same thing when he was running for office,and if you cant stand the heat,get out of the fire!!

Posted by: 1 | September 10, 2008 3:17 PM | Report abuse

We need some eye candy in the white house

Posted by: HAHA | September 10, 2008 3:16 PM | Report abuse

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Angie:
"I can't believe he hasn't apologized"

It's not his style. Egotist's are generally above such.


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Posted by: Billw | September 10, 2008 3:15 PM | Report abuse

I'm worried about losing my job and you want to talk about lipstick. This country is going down the drain because of this nonsense! Get to the issues!!!!!!

Posted by: Sean | September 10, 2008 3:15 PM | Report abuse

I love the Washington Post people have been clueless on here for months. Lets sum it up 4 more for the GOP

Posted by: HAHA | September 10, 2008 3:15 PM | Report abuse

Obama Tax,Wealth Redistribute, Socialist

Posted by: 3 Things in a sentence | September 10, 2008 3:14 PM | Report abuse

sarah is a light weight pitbull with no male organs

Posted by: ress | September 10, 2008 3:14 PM | Report abuse

The McCain Campaign has made the following points totally clear:

They have nothing substantive to run on.

They will lie repeatedly.

They will ignore any attempt by the media to correct the record.

They have no integrity or "honor" left.

McCain has sold his soul (if he ever had one) in order to try and win this thing at all costs.

McCain has shown, by the nature of his gutter campaign tactics and his laughable VP selection of Sarah Palin, that he is unfit to be President of this entire nation. If he is running to lord over the Fox News Viewer/ Operation Rescue demographic then maybe he is the right man at the right time.

That said, the Obama Campaign keeps saying that Americans are "smarter than that", but sadly I think they are wrong and maybe they need to start using smaller, easier to understand words and messaging.

Posted by: Maria | September 10, 2008 3:13 PM | Report abuse

This is the stupidest retort McCain has made yet. He is not honorable. He's just angry and a liar. Don't apologize, Obama! Keep hitting them!!

Posted by: Russell | September 10, 2008 3:13 PM | Report abuse

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WHERE'S CLINTON WHAN NEEDED?

Clearly Obama's kicking Clinton out for VP was bad judgment. The two would have been unbeatable. More bad judgment with the pig/old fish statement. Then the Wright, Rezko etc associations. He's only good at reading prepared text from his 300 advisers. Otherwise a ninkimpoop and a jerk.

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Posted by: Billw | September 10, 2008 3:13 PM | Report abuse

There are three things found in every sentence.

McShame: POW, CHANGE, POW

PALIN: LIE, LIE, LIE

Posted by: 3 things in a sentence | September 10, 2008 3:12 PM | Report abuse

I agree with Brian adams, that its to transparent to be savvy. Mr. Fix you seem to have such little regard for the average voter, while that might be right on some semi complex issues, this issue seems so obvious in its fallacy.

Posted by: Adam Smith | September 10, 2008 3:11 PM | Report abuse

Honest media... Go ask Olbermann and Mathews and mitchell and MSNBC

Posted by: Sam is Wrong | September 10, 2008 3:11 PM | Report abuse

Chris Cilliza-

Shame on you. Perception matters in politics because the media finds it easier to report on than actually researching, investigating and verifying sources. It matters because the media lets campaigns get away with it. I've come to accept that from other media sources, but I didn't expect it from you.

The Founding Fathers wanted the First Amendment to give the press a megaphone to shout the truth to the citizens in every corner of the country, not a dictaphone to just capture the message a candidate or campaign wanted repeated, unchecked and unburdened by fact or reality.

In the last two weeks, Americans have been treated to discussions from the Republicans themselves of barracudas, moose, elk, caribou, polar bears, and -- in Governor Palin's own words -- dogs with lipstick. And she was referring to women -- namely hockey moms.

But when Senator Obama uses a fairly common phrase to argue Senator McCain's is attempting to dress up President Bush's policies and pass them off as new -- which you seem to acknowledge was his intent -- the McCain campaign accuses him of insulting Senator Palin, and you pat them on the back for their "acute understanding."

Tell me -- if I worked for a political campaign, and accused the Washington Post of just reporting on the horse-race of the election, would the Washington Post accuse me of insulting the memory of the late, great Katherine Graham because clearly I calling her a horse? Of course not, because writers and editors at the Washington Post have a brain, and enough understanding of context to know that isn't what I said or meant.

And even if the Washington Post did do that, I'd hope you wouldn't be complimenting them on their "acute understanding."

But maybe I'm wrong. As a regular reader of the Fix, I always thought you were a political junkie who loved the chase, but actually did care about what we were all chasing.

We aren't building an ark. We aren't running "American Idol - the C-in-C edition." We aren't electing a member of the PTA, and we aren't selecting for a drinking buddy for the next four years. We are electing the President of the United States of America, and if we don't choose wisely, we run the risk of no longer being able to claim that we also elect the leader of the free world.

The "fourth estate" has a role in that, and I'd to believe it is a role that you, Chris Cilliza take seriously. It DOES matter what Senator Obama meant, and please don't call a group dedicated to distorting his intent a "truth squad."

Elections matter, and so does the content of your column. If you don't agree, then be sure to check the batteries in your dictaphone -- you wouldn't want to miss a moment of the McCain campaign's "sound strategy." Granted, I won't be reading your column anymore, but I'm sure you can find other sheep to wander around the barnyard with you.

E-I-E-I-O, Chris.

Posted by: Old MacDonald | September 10, 2008 3:11 PM | Report abuse

I can't believe Obama said it... I can't believe he hasn't apologized and gotten it over with... it's arrogance and it's tossing Hillary under the bus. We wouldn't be here if he had chosen Hillary.

Posted by: Angie | September 10, 2008 3:10 PM | Report abuse

this controversy is so far beyond ridiculous it's becoming Orwellian - and reflects very badly on the news media for playing along with it -

By the way, why is the FULL TRANSCRIPT of Jane Swift's so-called "truth squad" remarks not being reported (besides on Jake Tapper's blog?) Ms. Swift was asked whether the SECOND metaphor Obama used (that smelly fish) applied to McCain - and she couldn't even get the words out coherently, the idea was so ludicrous - and her comments so jejune

Mr. Tapper also mentions that McCain's former press secretary published a book in 2006 called - yes, this is true! - LIPSTICK ON A PIG: WINNING IN THE NO-SPIN ERA BY SOMEONE WHO KNOWS THE GAME

what words are going to be persona non grata tomorrow? eyebrow pencil???

Posted by: Mary | September 10, 2008 3:10 PM | Report abuse

Honest media... Go ask Olbermann and Mathews and mitchell and MSNBC

Posted by: Sam is Wrong | September 10, 2008 3:10 PM | Report abuse

"...even the people interviewed immediately afterward in the crowd commented about concerning Palin and the pig comment."

Funny, Jake Tapper from ABC news who was actually there wrote "neither I nor any of my colleagues there spoke to anyone who thought Obama was calling her a pig."

Probably because Obama was talking about John McCain's polices and didn't even mention Palin.

Here's a hint: not every reference to 'lipstick' from now to eternity refers to Palin.

Posted by: Aengil | September 10, 2008 3:10 PM | Report abuse

Who gives a Rats A$$ what the brits say?

Posted by: HAHA | September 10, 2008 3:09 PM | Report abuse

FIX you are really giving this round to McCain. Obama needs to run on this, RUN RUN RUN. ITS so absurd and EVERYONE KNOWS IT. HE NEEDS TO SHOW THIS IS OLD STYLE POLITICS AND MAKE THAT A THEME ABOUT HOW MCCAIN IS DOING THIS BECAUSE HE DOSEN'T CARE ABOUT YOUR ECONOMIC CONCERNS!!!! FIX do you really believe McCain is going to win this issue!?


http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2008/09/they_cant_be_serious.cfm

Look what the savvy Brits are saying, they are giving this round to Obama big time.

Posted by: Brian D Adams | September 10, 2008 3:09 PM | Report abuse

Obama has a big problem admitting when he makes a mistake. Who does he think we are idiots? Of course he was calling her a pig- now get on with it. Remember during the primaries when he was making a speech he gave Hillary the finger- we are not jerks just have the courage to admit when you screw up.

Posted by: mimi362 | September 10, 2008 3:09 PM | Report abuse

Surely I dont care what the Brits or the rest of Europe think of us

Posted by: Anti Brian | September 10, 2008 3:09 PM | Report abuse

And if a Repub used an expression like "that's the pot calling the kettle black" or all of Obama's principles have vanished into a "black hole," the black community would be screeching and whining, and the MSM would unquestioningly pronounce the speaker racist.

But when it's a sexist slur, women are supposed to take it and go along with the asinine position that sexism doesn't exist and hasn't been a toxic pervasive force in this election.

Women aren't taking it anymore.

Deal with it.

Posted by: Oh, please - it's so obvious | September 10, 2008 3:08 PM | Report abuse

Republican tactics have never gone this incredibly low! - It's really sad the Honest Media has dissolved into a puddle of water like the Wicked Witch of the West. Now, who do we turn to for honest reporting that will call a campaign on a lie ????????

Posted by: sam | September 10, 2008 3:07 PM | Report abuse

Tax cuts for 95% of American's !!!

That is is the biggest joke ever...

Got news for you..

The rich create jobs

Corporations don't pay taxes, they pass them on to consumers

Why are you liberals outraged that OBAMA want to dig into your pocket and give it to someone else?

He call's it being neighborly

It is WEALTH REDISTRIBUTION

Posted by: Tax Man | September 10, 2008 3:07 PM | Report abuse

when did the pitbull governor became a pig, isn't she a pitbull with a lipstick as she claims..? the pig is McCain-Bush's 'CHANGE'..but really, are there many illetrate and low informed Americans that carl rove can steers like a bunch of idiots? It sad really...in an election where the GOP is taking advantage of the ignorants. what a shame, low way of getting more votes!

Posted by: dtee | September 10, 2008 3:06 PM | Report abuse

FIX you are really giving this round to McCain. Obama needs to run on this, RUN RUN RUN. ITS so absurd and EVERYONE KNOWS IT. HE NEEDS TO SHOW THIS IS OLD STYLE POLITICS AND MAKE THAT A THEME ABOUT HOW MCCAIN IS DOING THIS BECAUSE HE DOSEN'T CARE ABOUT YOUR ECONOMIC CONCERNS!!!! FIX do you really believe McCain is going to win this!?

Posted by: Brian D Adams | September 10, 2008 3:05 PM | Report abuse

http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2008/09/they_cant_be_serious.cfm

Look what the savvy Brits are saying, they are giving this round to Obama big time.

Posted by: Brian D Adams | September 10, 2008 3:05 PM | Report abuse

OOOhhh, the McCain campaign is soooo sensitive, it should be called, the girlie man campaign. "Lipstick on a pig" is an old saying. "Pitbull with lipstick", is a self describing picture of a female dog. Get over it and get on with reality.

We do not need another Bush with skirts in leadership, all Bush did was take the bit in his teeth, run, lie and claim "Mission Accomplished", truth is that Bush did accomplish Al Qaeda's agenda, to get rid of Hussein, because Hussein knew how to deal with Al Qaeda. Now Al Qaeda is working on Iran's demise.

Posted by: george | September 10, 2008 3:04 PM | Report abuse

Democratic outrage over this is laughable

You have to admit that off teleprompter - Obama stutters and stammers just like GW Bush!

A smart politician wouldnt have used this analogy.

While I am sure he didnt mean it, the crowd sure thought he did and appluaded loudly

Posted by: Outraged LOL | September 10, 2008 3:04 PM | Report abuse

The McCain/Palin camp can't have it both ways. Sarah Palin can't be both a pitbull with lipstick who believes in shooting wolves from an airplane and a shrinking violet too delicate to speak to a single member of the media or the public without a script for two weeks to prepare for it and cherrypicking the questions. What are they hiding?

Oh, and the WSJ story about the 30 so-called operatives sent to Alaska has already been discredited. The 24-hour news cycle is making fact-checking go out the window. Speaking of which, factcheck.org was NOT referring to a single thing a Democrat has said about Sarah Palin, but about Internet rumors. The McCain campaign is certainly happy to lie about their opponent in the dirtiest possible ways, since they have no actual policies to run on.

When are we going to talk about the issues, again? Oh, wait, that's what Obama and Biden are doing every day, while Sarah Palin and John McCain repeat the same tired lies on the stump, reading from notes and teleprompters and refusing to take questions from the American public.

Posted by: Restonian | September 10, 2008 3:03 PM | Report abuse

explosion of a brand new style of muscular American feminism


I looked forward to today with particular fervor, knowing that Camille Paglia's monthly column would be appearing in Salon and that hers would be quite a different "feminist" take on the Palin phenomenon than we've all been subjected to of late. The pragmatic and eloquent Obama-supporting Democrat did not disappoint - attacking the Left's lies, the "establishment feminists'" patent hypocrisy and the occasional liberal sacred cow. Here are just a few excerpts:


"Conservative though she may be, I felt that Palin represented an explosion of a brand new style of muscular American feminism. At her startling debut on that day, she was combining male and female qualities in ways that I have never seen before. And she was somehow able to seem simultaneously reassuringly traditional and gung-ho futurist. In terms of redefining the persona for female authority and leadership, Palin has made the biggest step forward in feminism since Madonna channeled the dominatrix persona of high-glam Marlene Dietrich and rammed pro-sex, pro-beauty feminism down the throats of the prissy, victim-mongering, philistine feminist establishment. " [..]


"Over the Labor Day weekend, with most of the big enchiladas of the major media on vacation, the vacuum was filled with a hallucinatory hurricane in the leftist blogosphere, which unleashed a grotesquely lurid series of allegations, fantasies, half-truths and outright lies about Palin. What a tacky low in American politics -- which has already caused a backlash that could damage Obama's campaign. When liberals come off as childish, raving loonies, the right wing gains. I am still waiting for substantive evidence that Sarah Palin is a dangerous extremist. I am perfectly willing to be convinced, but right now, she seems to be merely an optimistic pragmatist like Ronald Reagan, someone who pays lip service to religious piety without being in the least wedded to it. I don't see her arrival as portending the end of civil liberties or life as we know it."


I hope you'll manage to hold your nose through the requisite "McCain bad -- Obama good" theme of the opening page, and then sit back and thoroughly enjoy the bulk of this inspired and important piece at Salon.com.

On Paglia's disdain for McCain, Brett McCrea writes:


John McCain's recent resurrection from political obscurity has apparently upset those with a liberal agenda. One of the consistent drumbeats from the leftist "intelligentsia" is the how does Senator McCain's imprisonment in a North Vietnamese prison qualify him for President? Camille Paglia went so far as to drone on:


Oh, the sadomasochistic tedium of McCain's imprisonment in Hanoi being told over and over and over again at the Republican convention. Do McCain's credentials for the White House really consist only of that horrific ordeal? Americans owe every heroic, wounded veteran an incalculable debt of gratitude, but how do McCain's sufferings in a tiny, squalid cell 40 years ago logically translate into presidential aptitude in the 21st century? Cast him a statue or slap his name on a ship, and let's turn the damned page.


I grow tired of leftists musing how does McCain's "sufferings" translate into being presidential? The explanation is simple, John McCain served his country in one of the darkest, loneliest places on earth, a place few have been and where none would ever want to be. Upon capture, he was initially denied any medical treatment and left to die. He did not die, he chose to fight on. He was routinely interrogated and tortured, but he continued to fight. He was offered freedom by his captors, he refused. He was brutally beaten, broke under tremendous pressure, and then had to rekindle that spirit to fight. Put simply, John McCain stood tall in Hell.


For the five years he was imprisoned, John McCain had to face the consequences of his decisions alone. By contrast, Senator Obama's was able to dodge difficult decisions by voting "present." One of the hardest decisions by John McCain was to choose to stay imprisoned when his captors would let him go. By contrast, a difficult decision for Senator Obama was to move his nomination acceptance speech from an arena that housed 40,000 to a stadium that could seat 80,000. One person made the decision to honor his country, the other to aggrandize himself.


Ms. Paglia desperately wants to turn the page because she does not want to be constantly reminded of the fact that the Republicans have a heroic veteran and her side does not. There is nothing in Senator Barak Obama's life that can come close to the circumstances John McCain had to face alone....and that is Presidential. Presidents have to make tough decisions and live with those consequences. Of the two candidates, I know John McCain will make the right decision when he is all alone. He has demonstrated that ability and that is experience that cannot be matched by his opponent.


One of the ways Ms. Paglia wants to "remember" John McCain is putting his name on a ship. May I suggest an aircraft carrier, an elected President often gets that honor.

Update -- Rosslyn Smith writes:


While much of what Paglia writes about pop culture is pure nonsense and her defense of abortion is indefensible when carefully parsed out, Paglia does have one virtue. She stands alone as an academic feminist who loathes the cult of the victim. Her advice to young women interested in politics to study military history rather than taking women's studies courses, with their rote agenda of never-ending grievances is spot on.
As Rick Moran pointed out today, Americans elect a president based in large part upon a comfort level of shared values. Those pampered, petulant bourgeois feminists, always looking to blame their complaints about life on someone else that Paglia has always loved to skewer simply do not inspire much comfort among voters. Nor do the many career women I have known over the years who try to outdo men in being mean, foul mouthed and overly aggressive as they belittle traditional feminine virtues.
It is instructive to look at those few women who have taken on the job of head of government in modern times. The shrill, the foul mouthed, the mannish and the grievance monger are nowhere to be found. From Margaret Thatcher pointing out troop placements with a polished pink toenail as she walked across a map of the Falklands spread out on the floor at 10 Downing Street to Golda Meir astounding an American journalist by fetching him a slice of cake she had made herself before she began their interview, they have been intensely feminine women.

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Posted by: rt | September 10, 2008 3:03 PM | Report abuse

You are an idiot if you truly believe this tripe. The Harvard lawyer is not prone to making loose comments. This was from a prewritten speech and if he or the speechwriters didn't see this connection they are idiots. It was obviously phrase with a double meaning that even the people interviewed immediately afterward in the crowd commented about concerning Palin and the pig comment.

Posted by: mike | September 10, 2008 3:03 PM | Report abuse

OBAMA KNEW EXACTLY WHAT HE WAS SAYING AND SO DID HIS AUDIENCE.

He is a slick speaker, but before he made the pig comment, he stumbled and looked uncomfortable and made an uncharacteristic nervous gesture. He knew exactly what he was saying.

The audience looked shocked for a moment, then it was visible that they made the Palin connection and they began hooting and cheering. An innocuous statement does not elicit hoots and cheers and applause.

It is also ironic that BO accuses JM of doing the very thing he's guilty of - calling same-old tactics "change."

All BO does is play the race card so his ugly sexism is doubly wrong.

He is worried and is stooping to gutter politics.

Shoulda gone with Clinton, Dems.

Posted by: former Dems, now Indep voting McCain | September 10, 2008 3:02 PM | Report abuse

--"McCain campaign is effectively using the politics of perception against Obama."--

I disagree. I see it as an attempt to get Obama to stop talking about issues, and to start mud slinging.

Other than pro-life, Republicans don't have an issue to run on, and so revert to continuously being morally outraged as a distraction.

It works because people don't understand the big issues - The government bails out Freddie Mac, and that impacts me . . . ? But outrage they understand.

Posted by: NoOneImportant | September 10, 2008 3:02 PM | Report abuse

I have voted for McCain in the past and HAD planned to vote for him in November. But this Palin choice makes no sense. Why would anybody vote for her?

Smaller government? She increased Alaska's.
No more pork? I guess it is not pork when it has 200 million attached.
No more religious extremists stealing the issues from the GOP? Nuff Said! Although it must be God's will.

I really don't get it.

Posted by: Indy | September 10, 2008 3:02 PM | Report abuse

For the love of god can you Obomya supporters give it up, he's not going to get elected. We are starting to see the shift now. I expect him to start name calling and slandering everyone in the republican party before he concedes to Mc/Palin in Nov.

Posted by: HAHA | September 10, 2008 3:02 PM | Report abuse

FIX you are really giving this round to McCain. Obama needs to run on this, RUN RUN RUN. ITS so absurd and EVERYONE KNOWS IT. HE NEEDS TO SHOW THIS IS OLD STYLE POLITICS AND MAKE THAT A THEME ABOUT HOW MCCAIN IS DOING THIS BECAUSE HE DOSEN'T CARE ABOUT YOUR ECONOMIC CONCERNS!!!! FIX do you really believe McCain is going to win this!?

Posted by: Brian Adams | September 10, 2008 3:02 PM | Report abuse

McCain also expressed outrage at the phrases:

"You can drive a horse to water but you can't make them drink"

"You can't teach an old dog new tricks"

"A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush"

characterizing the phrases as "horse-ist", "dog-ist" and "Bush-ist"

Posted by: Marie Stewart | September 10, 2008 3:02 PM | Report abuse

Well, I don't see Michelle Obama as being the type of woman to marry or stay married to a man that is a sexist.

She is as independent, smart and ambitious as her husband, and, by how they met, I am sure he KNOWS it.

He has two daughters.

That is not a picture of a man who would be sexist.

Sarah Palin is trying to single handedly take women's equality back DECADES with this fake outrage for political gain.

It is time for women to rise up and push back. There are very real issues of sexism that these type of allegations undermine.

This is a GOP distration tactic using women's rights as a chess piece.

It is time for Obama to ignore Palin and illuminate McCain and his 90% support of the disasterous agenda of George W. Bush for the last 8 years.

Posted by: Ward6ForNow | September 10, 2008 3:01 PM | Report abuse

Check out The Onion clip about a made-up candidate, there's even a pig reference, although about Iran. Was on before this Veep thing came up.

http://www.theonion.com/content/video/old_grizzled_third_party

Posted by: Scott | September 10, 2008 3:01 PM | Report abuse

I agree with the comment from Joe. These two candidates seem like pro wrasslers. McCain slinging mud and trying to put the sleeper hold on the voters and sneaking in his pokes to the eye with his maverick phrases and phoney baloney no ideas express.
Obama jabbing and using flying drop kicks to corral the Rove and McBushPalin tag team of dirty tricks. Yes this is as good as Pro Wrassling gets.

Posted by: Masked Avenger | September 10, 2008 3:01 PM | Report abuse

Cillizza, how ridiculous to paint the McCain campaign as having exclusive rights to "the politics of perception". Don't you remember Obama perverting McCain's comments and referring to a 100-year war, or defining rich as 5 million dollars annual income? The politics of perception is just plain politics, and it's been going on as long as males have been able to puff out their chest feathers.

Posted by: pteri | September 10, 2008 2:59 PM | Report abuse

jim page

Long winded. noone wants to read that.

Just say, I don't like the Republicans because they have control of the senate and the house. Oh wait they don't; they can't even get a vote on a simple sensical energy bill. I guess the economy which is highly effected by oil prices is just supposed to wait. Great job Demo Crats

Posted by: Michael | September 10, 2008 2:59 PM | Report abuse

Miss Pork Barrel you are too funny! Palin is Miss pork Barrel. Why you trying to steal her title? You know she owns that crown.

Posted by: The word of God | September 10, 2008 2:58 PM | Report abuse

GOP mock outrage is all the more hypocritical given remarks attributed to Gov. Palin about both Hillary Clinton's gender, and Barack Obama's race. The faux-fury is designed to fire up bored housewives who think that Palin is like them. She isn't like you for the record, unless the US taxpayer is paying to sleep in your own bed tonight?

Obama did right to point out that Palin is merely Cheyney in drag.

The McCain ad above detailing Obama's attempts to 'dig dirt' on Palin, some might call vetting. Others might call worthwhile as it has already highlighted Palin's lies. Yes lies is a strong word, but when you repeatedly say something you know not to be true its called lying:
- "I was against the bridge to nowhere"
LIE
- "I a fiscal conservative"
LIE. Wasilla ended up in a big old mountain of debt.
- "Gov. Palin is a campaigner against earmarks"
LIE. Gov. Palin is quite good at getting more than her fair share of pork.
- "Gov. Palin is a crusader against corruption in politics"
So why are her allies trying to interfere with the investigation into her alleged abuse of power in the Monegan case?

On the wolves ad: better hope that good sport Gov. Palin doesn't blow them up from the air with F18s.

Palin - plain wrong.

Posted by: Mike | September 10, 2008 2:58 PM | Report abuse

"For those of you crying that Obama supposedly called a woman a PIG, which he didn't... he was using a metaphor to describe Republican policies, and he was probably alluding to Sarah's pitbull remark, but I highly doubt he was referring to her personally as a PIG..."

Thank you, Lindsay, for being one of the few on here to acknowledge that Senator Obama probably (almost certainly, in my opinion) intended the comment to refer to Governor Palin's pitbull remark. It was clever, which is why the supporters in the audience laughed and gave him a standing ovation. The problem is, if you parse the statement, he's calling her a pig. Not lierally, of course: Barach Obama doesn't believe Sarah Palin is actually a pig - he just thought it was really clever to call her a pig.

Especially in light of the charges of sexism raised against the Obama campaign when he was running against Hillary, I'm not sure that calling Sarah Palin a pig is the best way for him to go about winning the election.

Posted by: gjd13 | September 10, 2008 2:57 PM | Report abuse

MORE LIES
MORE SWIFT BOATING
MORE FAKE CONTROVERSY AND OUTRAGE
MORE FEAR MONGERING
MORE MORE KARL ROVE

ANYTHING BUT THIS......

Gov. Palin:
Raised taxes as the Gov. of Alaska
Misled America about the Bridge to Nowhere, in her first national speech (She fully supported it and only denounced it after the funding was cut anyhow) and continues to do so as many as four times a day on the campaign stump. She never returned the funds for the Bridge to Nowhere.
A 2006 question to Governor Palin …”Would you continue state funding for the proposed Knik Arm and Gravina Island bridges?”
Answer: “Yes. I would like to see Alaska's infrastructure projects built sooner rather than later. The window is now - while our congressional delegation is in a strong position to assist.”
Wants to teach creationism in Science Class, subverting the US Constitution
Tried to get books banned at the local library
Fired her entire staff 10 days into term as mayor, for lack of loyalty
Used every available lever to get an enemy fired from his job, and is still lying about it
Put a gag order on her administration as mayor of a town of 6500
Milked the Federal Government for huge series of earmarks, by using Jack Abramoff lobbyists. The highest per capita earmarker in the nation: Palin (27 Million for a town of 6500)
Charged 52 earmarks valued at $256 million in her first year as Alaska Governor and 31 earmarks valued at $197 million this year. Considerably HIGHER than Barrack Obama’s Earmark list he released in March of 2008 in the spirit of transparency.
Billed taxpayers in Alaska $43,490 for staying in her own home.
Touts the need to address special needs children but only did so by stepping in at the last minute to support a bill that she was chided for NOT supporting previously despite her sister having a child with autism.
Doesn’t believe in Global Warming
Used Alaska First as her campaign slogan, which is the same one as her husband’s old party, the AIP, a secessionist organization she recorded a supportive piece for this year! She was also the keynote speaker for AIP on several occasions and her husband was an ardent supporter and member of AIP.
The AIP founder Joe Voglar once stated, “I'm an Alaskan, not an American. I've got no use for America or her damned institutions." and "The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government. And I won't be buried under their damn flag. I'll be buried in Dawson. And when Alaska is an independent nation they can bring my bones home."
Wants to ban stem cell research
Is on the record stating the Iraq war ”Is a task from God.”
In July when interviewed about the possibility of being the VP she stated that she did not know what the VP did.
Left her town Mayoralty with a huge debt, having outspent all around in her (21 MILION in debt)
And, perhaps worst of all, Palin would insist that my 14 daughter carry and birth a rapist’s child

Does anyone else find it utterly amazing, mind numbing and surreal that the republicans are running on a change platform borrowed from Obama to storm their own castle??!! Repub chant...."We suck, We Suck but NOW Were Different." This cranky guy cant even operate the internet to read your opinion. But change is coming......ya right like what more trickle down economics, fear mongering, politicizing 9/11 and questioning patriotism? Privatizing anything and everything to line the pockets of your friends? Lying repeatedly to the American people, 3 TRILLION in debt and POOF! A new republican party!!!! transformed from the last eight years and catapulted into the future! Yippeee like Slim Pickens riding the bomb through the sky in Dr Strangelove. Hello Joe McCarthy is that you? Mr. McCarthy would be proud. So would David Blaine. Abracadabra!!

Posted by: feastorafamine | September 10, 2008 2:56 PM | Report abuse

gjd13

Great points I did not think of that.

Anyhow I will have to make up a list of points formally to just post answers to all the Dems questions. If it is issues you want it is issues you will get.

Just remember who is the party that kept blocking the vote for drilling. Ironic that they are turning about and trying to push drilling only after holding the vote for no reason. At least they responded to their constituents.

Posted by: Michael | September 10, 2008 2:56 PM | Report abuse

Is anyone here embarrassed for our country and angry that any of these things might mean anything to the election? This looks more like professional wrestling than anything else. Yes, the athletes are well trained. But it is all show and no substance.

Posted by: Joe | September 10, 2008 2:55 PM | Report abuse

John McCain and all the Republicans are either going crazy or live in another world.All animals are equal execpt the pig.Lipstick on the pig has been usedfor years. Guess who used it and ohter things on Senator Clinton and her family? Yes ,you guessed it right. Yes , it was John McCain ! The Republicans can say anything and spew vitiolic , divisive hatefuland baseless messages.It is sinful for anyone else to dare.These holier than thou Chritians throw the first stone first and complain later.They preach high morals ,they are against planned parenthood, sex education,education period ,lying and cheating. They are cardinal sins . Yougo straight to hell for any of them. And what do they all do in their daily lives?This nation was not founded by Crackpot Nuts but by civilized intelligent and thoughtful people who wanted the country to be a shinning light to all people and not only to fear mongers and rednecks. They can lie some times but not all the time. We have been fooled, and lie to and cheated the last 8 years .We will not allow them to do it again. If you thinkyou have done well the last 8 years,thenvote the Republican agenda and ticket .If you have not and have lost your job,your pension ,our house and don't have insurance,and can't afford education for your kids and feed your family , and you think we need a better energy policy,then please don't let them pull the blanket over your head as they have done the last 8 years.If the failing economy and the ever mounting national debt to CHINA are what you want, then vote for the same party , the Republican paty andthe people who got us there.If we don't stop it now,we will be heading in a worst direction than the present Republican adnimistration has led us.What a mess.Is this what you want?This selfdeafting old agenda? .Help your children and grandchildren .America needs you to show evryone that we are smart andwe think.Wecan see through hatebaiting and lack of leadership. We are no fools. Enough with the Republican Mismanagementand Lipservice. Reclaim the Whitehouse in November.It is your house, the PEOPLE'S House. Don't let foolishness or dark , misguided emotions blind you . They expect that .They think you don't think or can't thinkfor yourself.They are wrong. We are better than they think . Let's show them our true color. Let's tell themthey did a poor job the last 8 years so we want the Whitehouse back. Vote for a real change.Be honest with yourself.Vote with reason and not emotions.Do you want to lose again?Haven't these 8 years taught you anything?. If you don't pay attention again,it can happen again.Can you stand another 4 more years of the same misery?Be smart. You are smart . Vote for the rightand honest change.Please don't lose again

Posted by: jim page | September 10, 2008 2:55 PM | Report abuse

Obama didn't call Palin a PIG, the Republican's did! Based on Obama's statements the Republican's concluded he must be talking about Palin cause who else looks like a pig with lipstick. Give them enough rope and the Republican's will smoke their hams. Such a desperate group of ugly American's. We are sick of your lies. How dare you use just any woman to try and sway us. There are too many great woman in this country for us to fall prey to your sick jokes. Republican's have mad pig disease.

Posted by: Miss Pork Barrel | September 10, 2008 2:55 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Revenge of the PUMAs | September 10, 2008 2:54 PM | Report abuse

It is very clear to me, paying attention to the way the last two Great On Propaganda presidential campaigns were run in this nation that the Republicans, as a party, are not interested in change, if by that we mean, radical change, in the way this government has run for the last 8 years.

The McCain/Palin campaign is trying to distract voters from the real issues -- so Obama/Biden must illuminate them and focus on what they're trying to hide.

They've come out AGAINST the life-saving possibilities of stem cell research.

They don't even mention protecting equal pay for equal work.

They SUPPORT huge tax cuts for the wealthiest 2% of Americans.

They've almost completely ignored the $10 billion we're spending every week in Iraq.

And they make zero exceptions for a woman's right to choose -- even in cases of rape, incest, or to protect the life of the mother. Ladies, If your 14-year-old daughter was raped and became pregnant, Palin and McCain would FORCE her to have the baby -- no matter what your family thought was best. Whose "family values" are those?

If that all sounds like more of the same, that's because it is.

McCain/Palin is offering a third term of the disastrous Bush agenda, so it's no wonder their campaign would choose to focus on attacks instead of issues.


Straight from the horses mouth:

"Rick Davis, campaign manager for John McCain's presidential bid, insisted that the presidential race will be decided more over personalities than issues during an interview with Post editors"

This is how dismissive the McCain Campaign is of the American people.

No More!!!

Change means DIFFERENT!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 2:54 PM | Report abuse

It is no surprise that Obama is sexist as he and the DNC have kicked Hillary to the curb. This is the reason I and millions of other women are disenchanted with the democratic party and are in fact voting for the republican ticket. The republicans are more progressive than the democrats - in foreign and domestic affiars. I am just totally disgusted with the democrats now.

Posted by: Gladys | September 10, 2008 2:53 PM | Report abuse

Chris:
This Rovian style of politics that puts perception ahead of policy, vision and the direction of the country, works because "professionals" in the media don't call out the lies, the distortions and the sleazy tactics being used.
Stop being played.

Posted by: Dje Dje | September 10, 2008 2:52 PM | Report abuse

***READ THIS***

This lady is a true joke... as one blogger stated "All americans will be homeless if these two get elected"

Bloggers Pan Palin’s First Major Statement on Economy

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/09/08/bloggers-pan-palins-first-major-statement-on-economy/

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 2:52 PM | Report abuse

McCain is running the most dishonarable presidential campaign of our lifetimes.
Country First?
If something happens to McCain what then?
President Palin!!!
Thanks McCain for protecting the USA, in this manner
Disgusting!!

Posted by: Rocky | September 10, 2008 2:50 PM | Report abuse

Okay, it's not as if the media has clean hands here, Sir Pontius Pilate. Every time you and your cohorts picks up one of these phony stories, you help create the media storm.
Its not enough to note, disingenuously, that "everyone is talking about" whatever. The reason they are is because it's front and center in the papers and on tv. In other words--you are the problem.

Posted by: kathleen | September 10, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Here what Obama has to say straight from the horses mouth -and, no, I am not calling him a horse.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0908/Obama_knocks_press_on_madeup_controversy.html

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Mike Hunt, you poor, sad, dolt -- what kind of incomprehensible s**t are you regurgitating? Limbaugh-era Republicans amaze for their ability to vomit on command.

Posted by: EveryWord | September 10, 2008 2:48 PM | Report abuse

Has anyone realized that for a very long time the terms "pig" and "lipstick" will be attached to Sarah Palin and no one else? The late night comedians must thank the cosmos every night for gifts such as this.

If the McCain people didn't make such a big fuss over it, it would never have been an issue or a minor one. But in trying to hurt Obama they have changed their pitbull into a pig. Amazing.

Posted by: Kathy | September 10, 2008 2:48 PM | Report abuse

McCAIN WAS FIRST WITH THE PIG:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BR8IhMMhe8w

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 2:48 PM | Report abuse

It is wonderful to see so many come to Sarah's defense. In a few short weeks, she will be dog food (to extend the metaphor). She will fail in her debate against Biden. She will be indicted by the Alaska legislature. She will be exposed by the media for lying. She is a nobody - a worthless pol whom McCain picked to appease the base. When she stands on her own, voters will see her for the fraud she is. I'm relieved that so many are coming to her defense now. They will soon be backpedaling all the way to election day. Mark my words!

Posted by: Tom | September 10, 2008 2:47 PM | Report abuse

Chris, I think you called it pretty accurately with the Robert Kennedy/assassination story that Obama exploited so mercilessly against Hillary, although he knew it was completely unfounded.

Memo to Obama: the dirty tricks you played against Hillary are being magnified tenfold by the GOP. Bully for the GOP.

As a Hillary voter, I take my hat off to Rick Davis and crew for always staying one step ahead of Obama ("Dollargate", "Pig-gate") and beating him at his own trashy game.

Posted by: jt | September 10, 2008 2:46 PM | Report abuse

OBAMA was talking about McCAIN'S POLICY, NOT SARAH PALIN !!!!!!!!!!! Why can't YOU get that through your HEADS????? You know not everything Karl Rove's strategists SAY is true but you people have been eating that up since Bush stole the election in 2000. Can we get back to the real issues like the E-CON-O-ME or the health care system or maybe how McAncient votes 97% of the time for BUSH policies!!!!

Posted by: Abnner | September 10, 2008 2:46 PM | Report abuse

doesn't the media, chris, have a duty to be an accurate reporter of facts, as opposed to just a McCain echo chamber? This mealy-mouthed "its hard to believe he meant it" is an abdication of responsibility. "Putting lipstick on a pig" is midwestern/southern colloquialisim from the BUSINESS world. This purely manufactured outrage is absurd, and journalists have a responsibility to highlight reality, not just echo Republican talking points.

Posted by: sly | September 10, 2008 2:46 PM | Report abuse

McCain is a hypocrite!

Watch this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMPYkNQlJMM

Posted by: Bill | September 10, 2008 2:46 PM | Report abuse

My goodness Chris C
Palin called herself a PITBULL WITH LIPSTICK...oh xcuse was that in reference to a hockey mom? so now, Ms. Pitbull Palin, if you CAN'T TAKE THE HEAT, stay out of the kitchen, but then again may be she has to stay in the kitchen as she supposedly "let go of the state chef" ...but then sort of reassigned her...that's sort of like retaining the chef on payroll...

Posted by: LES | September 10, 2008 2:45 PM | Report abuse

PLEASE FORWARD TO BOB WOODWARD:

Bob --

My emails to you all come back as "undeliverable." I have been trying to contact you for several months. So I resort to this:

Please see http://members.nowpublic.com/scrivener

...story headlined "Government Agencies Support..."


Will try again in a couple of days. Thanks.

Posted by: scrivener | September 10, 2008 2:45 PM | Report abuse

LIPSTICK?? IOWA?? OCTOBER?? McCAIN??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BR8IhMMhe8w

Posted by: RedMeat | September 10, 2008 2:45 PM | Report abuse

For those of you crying that Obama supposedly called a woman a PIG, which he didn't... he was using a metaphor to describe Republican policies, and he was probably alluding to Sarah's pitbull remark, but I highly doubt he was referring to her personally as a PIG...

...I would like to remind you people that Sarah called herself a DOG, and in doing so demeaned ALL women. For if Sarah is a DOG who wears lipstick, that makes her a self-proclaimed b*tch. If the woman can dish it out, she can TAKE IT LIKE A MAN. She deserves all of this. And so does McCain.

McCain showed the ultimate sexism when he chose this token "babe" as his trophy-mate. He won't even let her off her dog leash so we know how she really feels about the issues. Man, wipe off all that make-up Sarah, and do some talkin' instead of all the fakey smilin'.

Give me a break. Obama is a GENIUS. The spotlight is back on HIM, and back on the lunacy and hypocrisy of the Republicans.... and hopefully smart people will see we need to be discussing the larger issues here, not lipstick!

The irony is dripping as fast as melted lipstick.

The problem is that the majority of voters are BELOW average in intelligence and wouldn't recognize irony if it bit them on their rear end. The buffoon who is sitting in the White House is testimony to that, and these below-average people live their lives like a bad TV show. That is what America has become. Bad TV. Hence the Sarah phenomenon.

Where is Oprah when we need her?

Posted by: lindsay | September 10, 2008 2:45 PM | Report abuse

While Chris Cillizza obviously is working hard on behalf of John McCain by NOT explaining what Obama said, thankfully Jeff Zeleny of The New York Times reported the full story:

>>“John McCain says he’s about change, too — except for economic policy, health care policy, tax policy, education policy, foreign policy and Karl Rove-style politics,” Mr. Obama told his supporters here. “That’s just calling the same thing something different.”

With a laugh, he added: “You can put lipstick on a pig; it’s still a pig. You can wrap an old fish in a piece of paper called change; it’s still going to stink after eight years.”

In the latest sign of the campaign’s heightened intensity, Mr. McCain’s surrogates responded within minutes and called on Mr. Obama to apologize to Gov. Sarah Palin for the lipstick remark. But to those in the audience, it was clear that Mr. Obama was employing an age-old phrase — lipstick on a pig — and referring to Mr. McCain’s policies. He had not yet mentioned Ms. Palin at that point of his speech.<<

Crystal clear. End of discussion.

Posted by: Outraged | September 10, 2008 2:44 PM | Report abuse

Chris, Please do your homework. McCain has used the common phrase "lipstick on a pig" many times, particularly to slam Hillary Clinton's policies. You are playing into the Republican game by not calling them on this ridiculous phony outrage.

No one believes that Obama was referring to Palin with the comment. Rather, he was correctly noting that McCain has not introduced any new policies that represent a difference from the Bush disasters of the past eight years.

The Republicans lie and lie and lie some more. They have no shame. And the media is letting them get away with it.

Come on, Chris. Do your job and get after McCain on his dishonorable campaign. The voters deserve much better from the Republicans and from honest journalists.

Posted by: dee | September 10, 2008 2:43 PM | Report abuse

Is it true that the winner in November's election will be the candidate that bumps off mutual opponent first?

Apparently the mutual opponent exposed corruption within both parties and now the persons are targeted by candidates representing their respective parties. This raises the following questions.....

1. Will GOP use Guiliani-like mob ties like his protege Bernard Kerik who was indicted and may get 140 years in jail for such ties?

2. Will Dems use OJ Simpson-like felon that may do jail time soon?

3. Will both GOP and Dems offer sweetheart exchange deals to both Guiliani-like mob-ties and OJ-like felon where once they commit murder, their jail time is lessened in exchanged?

4. Having blown the whistle on this possibility, should we worry about the safety of our family too whether in public or private as we are watched 24/7 and our habits and plans are known in advanced? For example, should my husband worry about doing his daily 20-30 minutes jog after work in Hackensack and or Bogota, NJ? Or my taking the bus to Maywood, NJ for a doctor's appointment around the same time?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 2:42 PM | Report abuse

Here's here your fair and balanced.

Yes, McCain has been using the "lipstick" analogy since Iowa last year!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BR8IhMMhe8w

Posted by: FoxNews | September 10, 2008 2:42 PM | Report abuse

Oh come on, this is not "the politics of perception"... It is a calculated "Swift Boating" of everything the Obama campaign says daily. The McCain/Rove goon squad is running full tilt and the lazy, gullible, headline-hungry media is all to gleeful to lap it up and spew it out to an equally lazy, gullible public.

Posted by: tdub | September 10, 2008 2:42 PM | Report abuse

Is it true that the winner in November's election will be the candidate that bumps off mutual opponent first?

Apparently the mutual opponent exposed corruption within both parties and now the persons are targeted by candidates representing their respective parties. This raises the following questions.....

1. Will GOP use Guiliani-like mob ties like his protege Bernard Kerik who was indicted and may get 140 years in jail for such ties?

2. Will Dems use OJ Simpson-like felon that may do jail time soon?

3. Will both GOP and Dems offer sweetheart exchange deals to both Guiliani-like mob-ties and OJ-like felon where once they commit murder, their jail time is lessened in exchanged?

4. Having blown the whistle on this possibility, should we worry about the safety of our family too whether in public or private as we are watched 24/7 and our habits and plans are known in advanced? For example, should my husband worry about doing his daily 20-30 minutes jog after work in Hackensack and or Bogota, NJ? Or my taking the bus to Maywood, NJ for a doctor's appointment around the same time?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 2:41 PM | Report abuse

Problem not with Obama or McCain - the politicians will do and say as they will.
The problem is with Americans'stupidity - too many of you believe that you live in a free and democratic country. But then, you don't know any better.

Ever asked yourselves a question why is it that your so-called democratic form of government consists almost completely of thieves and scoundrels, all owned by the wealthy industrial and financial interests? More so on the
Republican side, of course, but also pretty bad on the Democratic one.

Posted by: SAm | September 10, 2008 2:41 PM | Report abuse

You've got a bunch of girly men in the GOP, having to hide behind the skirts of a woman and whimpering "sexism" every time they want to distract attention from the fact that they are now on, what, third or fourth campaign message - chance, now, right? The need to distract attention from the issues because they have 2 candidates and neither one can be trusted in front of live reporters with a live microphone. Palin out to be flattered. She called herself a pit bull in lipstick. But pigs are much friendlier and you can TRUST a pig.

Posted by: AnitaRN | September 10, 2008 2:41 PM | Report abuse

Hillary should repeat the lipstick on a pig comment. This would draw huge media attention, defuse the sexism charge, show support for Obama, and underscore the substantive point that the McCain policies are just a continuation of the Bush policies.

Posted by: Gene L | September 10, 2008 2:40 PM | Report abuse

i seem to remember palin herself bringing up the animal with lipstick joke.. i guess she can dish it out, but can't take it, huh?

but the truth is.... palin IS a pig with lipstick.

1) the republicans keep her on a leash.

2) they don't let her talk to the media..

3) they don't let her answer questions from the public..

she is strictly for show.

and so is a 4H pig.

and the difference is the palin pig wears lipstick.

oh yea... a 4H pig don't know the difference between an executive branch and a parliamentary system.

and neither does a palin pig.

i rest my case.

Posted by: BOB | September 10, 2008 2:40 PM | Report abuse

More distortions. More devicive politics. More swift boating. More fake controversy. More of ANYTHING but issues Americans care about. Anything but this......

Gov. Palin:
Raised taxes as the Gov. of Alaska
Misled America about the Bridge to Nowhere, in her first national speech (She fully supported it and only killed it after the funding was cut anyhow) and continues to do so as many as four times a day on the campaign stump. She never returned the funds for the Bridge to Nowhere.
A 2006 question to Governor Palin …”Would you continue state funding for the proposed Knik Arm and Gravina Island bridges?”
Answer: “Yes. I would like to see Alaska's infrastructure projects built sooner rather than later. The window is now - while our congressional delegation is in a strong position to assist.”
Wants to teach creationism in Science Class, subverting the US Constitution
Tried to get books banned at the local library
Fired her entire staff 10 days into term as mayor, for lack of loyalty
Used every available lever to get an enemy fired from his job, and is still lying about it
Put a gag order on her administration as mayor of a town of 6500
Milked the Federal Government for huge series of earmarks, by using Jack Abramoff lobbyists. The highest per capita earmarker in the nation: Palin (27 Million for a town of 6500)
Charged 52 earmarks valued at $256 million in her first year as Alaska Governor and 31 earmarks valued at $197 million this year. Considerably HIGHER than Barrack Obama’s Eamark list he released in March of 2008 in the spirit of transparency.
Billed taxpayers in Alaska $43,490 for staying in her own home.
Touts the need to address special needs children but only did so by stepping in at the last minute to support a bill that she was chided for NOT supporting previously despite her sister having a child with autism.
Doesn’t believe in Global Warming
Used Alaska First as her campaign slogan, which is the same one as her husband’s old party, the AIP, a secessionist organization she recorded a supportive piece for this year! She was also the keynote speaker for AIP on several occasions and her husband was an ardent supporter and member of AIP.
The AIP founder Joe Voglar once stated, “I'm an Alaskan, not an American. I've got no use for America or her damned institutions." and "The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government. And I won't be buried under their damn flag. I'll be buried in Dawson. And when Alaska is an independent nation they can bring my bones home."
Wants to ban stem cell research
Is on the record stating the Iraq war ”Is a task from God.”
In July when interviewed about the possibility of being the VP she stated that she did not know what the VP did.
Left her town Mayoralty with a huge debt, having outspent all around in her (21 MILION in debt)
And, perhaps worst of all, Palin would insist that my 14 daughter carry and birth a rapist’s child

Does anyone else find it utterly amazing, mind numbing and surreal that the republicans are running on a change platform borrowed from Obama to storm their own castle??!! Repub chant...."We suck, We Suck but NOW Were Different." This cranky guy cant even operate the internet to read your opinion. But change is coming......ya right like what more trickle down economics, fear mongering, politicizing 9/11 and questioning patriotism? Privitizing anything and everything to line the pockets of your friends? Lying repeatedly to the American people, 3 TRILLION in debt and POOF! A new republican party!!!! transformed from the last eight years and catapulted into the future! Yippeee like Slim Pickens riding the bomb through the sky in Dr Strangelove. Hello Joe Mccarthy is that you? Mr. McCarthy would be proud. So would David Blaine. Abracadabra!!

Last year Mccain said while criticizing health proposals from the Democratic presidential candidates, he said Hillary Rodham Clinton's resembled the failed plan she offered as first lady during the 1990s. "I think they put some lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig," McCain of her proposal.

MORE LIES
MORE FEAR MONGERING
MORE SWIFT BOATING
MORE MORE MORE KARL ROVE
Thanks Johnny for the 'honorable campaing" he promised.

Posted by: feastorafamine | September 10, 2008 2:40 PM | Report abuse

You poor sad dems, you just don't get it at all, YOUR candidate is an empty suit, a lawyer who engineered a win in Illinois by knocking out his oponents on technicallities, he won without a single vote being cast for an opposing candidate, THAT's the ONLY way he could have and did win.
Now he he showing what he truely is, a person can only fake it for so long,
he's a racist, evidenced by his 20 year association with his church, an elitist, evidenced by dumping his church and a sexisit, not picking the correct VP, which was Hillary and then calling Sarah a pig!
it all begins to point in the same direction.
He's running for president to fulfill his own dreams and he's not up to it, not qualified, not the person America needs.

Posted by: Mike Hunt | September 10, 2008 2:40 PM | Report abuse

. . . that says it all. Republicans have always lost on the issues. That's why character assassination has always been their preferred method of campaigning. If they can't make it personal, they can't win.

Is that what Americans want in their elected representatives? I would think they would want more. Unfortunately, the same people who vote for "American Idols" elect our Presidents . . . cult of personality driven, nascar loving, southerners. God save us from Dixie.

Posted by: Can't win on the issues . . . | September 10, 2008 2:40 PM | Report abuse

Obama was talking about policies and he's right that this is catnip for the rightwing Media.

The Republicans are running a branding campaign. They are fighting to brand their candidate as the candidate of change even though he supports Bush's policies. They want Obama to apologize because it will weaken his brand and make them look like they are in control.

The Republicans are going to make numerous calls for apologies over the next 8 weeks. It's a core branding strategy. I don't hear them apologizing for lying to the American people about Palin's support of the Bridge to Nowhere. I don't hear McCain apologizing to the American people for telling us the solution to the housing crisis is to get a second job. What offensive nonsense; especially, from a guy who left his first wife to marry rich. The lack of loyalty he has shown to his first wife astounds me.

It is time for McCain to keep his promise to the American people and run his campaign on his vision and his policies. That is change I can believe in.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 2:39 PM | Report abuse

Again, Wake up Morons. GET TO THE REAL ISSUES..."it's the ECONOMY, STUPID" The economy has been in the pits over the past many years, the illegal war with Iraq has yet to come to an end and the real criminals have yet to be punished for it, this government continues to spend like drunken sailors and Mccane is promising more deficit spending, jobs, healthcare, inflation, REAL ISSUES and you guys are focussing on CR##!!! No wonder we have the sort of govt we have had for the past 8 years.

Posted by: yard80197 | September 10, 2008 2:38 PM | Report abuse

It doesn't matter that this expression has been around before anyone knew who Obama was or that Patraeus and McCain have used the same expression or that McCain, in particular, applied it to something championed by Hillary.

It also doesn't matter that Sarah Palin's pitbull analogy pretty much labeled all hockey women as dogs. (Is that better or worse than a pig? Is it OK because she considers herself a "hockey mom" and is thereby applying the label to herself? Is it OK because she picked a tough breed? Does that mean *I* can call her a dog since she's apparently proud of it?)

It's about none of these things. It's about the short-term memory and double-standards of our sound-byte culture. It's all about distracting from the real issues by manufacturing more faux-outrage. Gotta rile up the troops!

Posted by: Dog With Lipstick | September 10, 2008 2:38 PM | Report abuse

Ha! Funny you should bring up the onslaught that Clinton faced when she made the Bobby Kennedy allusion. It was the Obama campaign that led the charge. Remeber when Obama was taped at a campaign rally giving Clinton the finger to roars of laughter. I think he's one slick guy. I'm glad he's getting the same back at him.

Posted by: chase123 | September 10, 2008 2:38 PM | Report abuse

where is the beef? show me the beef,where is the beef?
- Economy is ok
- War is ok
- Gas is ok
- Health is ok
Now, let's talk about Miss Piggy
Here's what Kermit says about his relationship with Miss Piggy:
Miss Piggy and I have a professional acting relationship. I act like a profressional, and she acts like we're having a relationship.
Miss Piggy really hasn't mellowed much. Piggy is a prima donna. And her reputation proceeds her, I'm afraid, just like her snout.
Hmmm, deja vu?
Miss Piggy was heard saying :
“Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and it may be necessary from time to time to give a stupid or misinformed beholder a black eye.”
Another deja vu?

Posted by: iglooo101 | September 10, 2008 2:37 PM | Report abuse

I will explain my conclusion even though it won't make any difference to the (admittedly frustrated) folks on this blog. There's nothing wrong with the phrase "lipstick on a pig" - it's fairly common, and everyone's use of the term prior to last Wednesday night is perfectly acceptable. But it strains credulity (in the context of the speech Senator Obama was giving) to believe that he did not intend his use of the term as a smirking, knowing reference to the innocuous, self-deprecating joke Governor Palin told in her acceptance speech. (And guys, blame the Obama supporters - who clearly received it as such! Do you think anyone else has previously gotten a standing ovation for the use of a cliche???)

It's not the end of the world, but calling your opponent names is a tactic much more appropriate to the schoolyard, rather than a presidential election.

Posted by: gjd13 | September 10, 2008 2:37 PM | Report abuse

Interesting how John McCain said the exact same phrase about Hilary Clinton last year and no one cried outrage. The republicans are two-faced, phony hypocrites.

But since no one will make a headline out of my saying it - Sarah Palin is a pig in lipstick.

Posted by: Honest | September 10, 2008 2:36 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, the lipstick thing is the latest Republican travesty - they are shameless, and they need to be pushed out of that office. For those of you who don't agree...

Here is a very interesting read from an unusual and surprising religious perspective. I highly recommend checking it out:

http://www.newsflavor.com/Opinions/McCain-Hijacks-Christianity-Via-Palin.240929

Posted by: LaRae | September 10, 2008 2:35 PM | Report abuse

I actually think this incident is a net positive for the Obama campaign, so long as the substance of the lipstick comment has made it through -- that the McCain policies are a continuation of the Bush policies and the McCain campaign is just running a serious of distractions trying to draw attention away from that fact.

The lipstick on a pig comment has penetrated through the static. Does anyone who is undecided really believe Obama is a sexist? On the other hand will undecided voters be more inclined to remember the assertion that McCain's policies are aligned with Bush, and that the McCain campaign is creating all these diversions?

Posted by: Gene L | September 10, 2008 2:35 PM | Report abuse

Leigh R.

Is that really a question? It is obvious your definition needs working on. If you are not sure what a hero is make up a definition of your own. You obviously don't have a definition yet. Keep working and get back to us. Publish it on Urban Dictionary or such--I am sure they will allow your submission to go up.

Posted by: michael | September 10, 2008 2:35 PM | Report abuse

Part of the problem is also people in the press who call lies "the politics of perception". "The politics of perception" is also what got us into Iraq. Republicans make a living off "the politics of perception" because the press has been too cowardly to call lies lies, and too many Americans are ignorant and gullible. It's very, very sad. But I'd still like to see a little more spine out of the Fix.

Posted by: UTMark | September 10, 2008 2:35 PM | Report abuse

Obama needs to hit back hard with advertisements and in the media. Not the latest lipstick thing, but string together a narrative in thirty seconds: McCain wants you to see the trees, not the forest. Because McCain can only win as long as the trees and not the forest are the issue.

I still think that in the end Obama will win, but he sure is making it interesting. Especially since last July when he passed on a chance to drive a wedge through the Republican Party that even Palin couldn't have healed. When that FISA bill came up, instead of savaging Pelosi, Reid and McCain, he meekly flip-flopped and voted for it. McCain had no cash at that time and Obama could have flooded the airwaves saying McCain was all for the government spying on people in their homes. McCain couldn't have countered. Obama would have been painted as defying his own party (stealing McCain's thuder), standing up for basic rights (swift-boat the war hero), standing up to Bush, and he could have gotten the forty votes he needed in the Senate to kill it which would have provided his resume with a "do something" for his short tenure. The anti-government, libertarian Republican voters (a considerable bloc) may not have come to Obama's side but they could have been sent packing to either Bob Barr or convinced to stay at home. That means a couple of points in the Midwestern battle ground states and the new battleground states like CO, VA, NC, MT & ND. Instead Obama decided to switch to a traditional Democratic campaign: something that has never actually won (Clinton only won because of Perot, Carter because of Watergate, and LBJ because of a dead President and an even deader GOP.)

Posted by: muD | September 10, 2008 2:35 PM | Report abuse

Are we really sinking this low? It sounds like a bunch of school children calling each other names. Any body who has bothered to read ( and it seems some of you can not be bothered)or looked at the entire speech (unless you are an absolute idiot) knows he was not talking aout Palin.
Very smart of the republicans though. If they can keep americans from looking at real issues they just may win again.

Posted by: jwald1 | September 10, 2008 2:34 PM | Report abuse

Jane Swift now is on a truth squad!!!What a joke, she is an idiot and one of the worst govenor's Massachusetts ever had. She used to use tax dollars to fly home to see her kids instead of taking the two hour drive. Im all for working mothers, but please!!!!!!! I work hard and do not get free helicopter rides when I need them. Everyone need to listen to the issues, not the garbage and vote!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Erin Powers | September 10, 2008 2:34 PM | Report abuse

This whole controversy is beyond strange.

Lipstick on a pig is a common expression. So is making a silk purse out of a sow's ear. McCain has used the "Lipstick on a pig" expression several times in the past.

So if Obama says it, it is unpresidential, but it is OK when McCain says it.

This is truly trivializing our political system. Contests for Prom Queens are conducted with more dignity.

I have lost all respect for McCain, and I would have voted for him in 2000.

For those insulting Obama's intelligence, he went to Harvard for law school then worked at one of the most prestigious law firms in the country, then taught constitutional law at U of C - one of the best law schools in the US. This is aside from being a state senator. Obama went to Columbia and Harvard based on his own merit.

One thing he is not lacking is intelligence.

Posted by: jo | September 10, 2008 2:34 PM | Report abuse

Any excuse to avoid the fact the Republicans have trashed the country. If we had a real press and journalists instead of tabloids and gossip mongers, they wouldn't get away with it. Again.

Posted by: Strangely Enough | September 10, 2008 2:34 PM | Report abuse

"Hey bondsith, can you say 'straw man argument?'"

I'll say it if you can define it. Nothing has come from the McSame/Palin camp other than complaints about how Palin has been treated and the usual social non-starter issues that resonate with a vocal minority.

I'm not setting up straw men - I'm knocking down McShame's.

Posted by: bondjedi | September 10, 2008 2:32 PM | Report abuse

If the "respected" media prints everything they get from the campaigns without being allowed by a campaign to vett the comments with normal everyday questions, then the "respected" media probably should treat what they get from the campaigns with suspicion. If the media cannot ask questions about anything except the specific items that the campaign is willing to respond to (thus "stay on message"), the media should treat the very subject on hand with suspicion.

Instead of just doing the work of the campaigns and repeating what they're saying to their watchers/listeners/readers, the media should mention the conditions under which the material was provided.

Posted by: Mike | September 10, 2008 2:32 PM | Report abuse

hey Everyword, not merely repub tactics but Carl Rovian tactics. That guy is a real white collar criminal. The Shrub must be laughing his head off about now. BTW are you helping MoveOn to register more young voters? If not...

Posted by: yard80197 | September 10, 2008 2:31 PM | Report abuse

Would someone PLEASE compile on a Web site or blog somewhere all the sexist comments John McCain has ever made, about Hillary Clinton or anyone else?

Posted by: kschnee | September 10, 2008 2:30 PM | Report abuse

Where did anyone get the idea that McCain is or was a "war hero". He flew jets tens of thousands of feet above a war in which real heros were being maimed and killed. When he finished bombing and burning towns he flew home for dinner. On one ocassion he got shot down and put in jail where he stayed for a few years while his fellow military men continue to die and be maimed in Viet Nam. How did this myth about heroism get started? Why is it allowed to continue?

Posted by: Leigh R. | September 10, 2008 2:30 PM | Report abuse

I'm not a Hillary supporter, but at least the Clintons know how to play dirty politics against the Republicans.

That's why the Clintons could WIN...because they knew how to play hardball with the Repubs.


Posted by: MBW | September 10, 2008 2:30 PM | Report abuse

God, is ANYONE surprised by this? I don't feel bad for Obama, he knew what he was up against. But I will feel pretty bad if the American public is brainwashed enough to swallow MORE lies from the same cynical liars who brought us WMDs, wiretapping, a $4 trillion national debt and left our economy spiraling down the toilet.

A smart, cynical man who assumes everyone else is stupid is the definition of an "elitist", which is ironically what the Repugs tried to pin on Obama. But Obama is right. You can put "lipstick" (i.e. pretty Palin) on a pig, but it's still the same old lying, greedy, filthy pig KARL ROVE.

Posted by: huh | September 10, 2008 2:30 PM | Report abuse

Please; that comment wasn't worth a pinch of coon sh..t. Media wasting time on Repub's talking points....since issue's aren't important enough for the Prince and his new soulmate.

This selection is all about OiL...yes OIL; Her selection was a) drilling in ANWR....drilling and such, TransCanada Pipeline.....drill, drill, drill baby!!!...as McCain is saying and b) energizing the base.

How long as he known Palin...Karl Rove, Dick Cheney, Newt Gingrich, John McCain....a long, long time..... The only ones fooled were outside of the Repub Party...'the voters'...isn't that just great. Not about who is on the ticket, but, what is on the ticket....

Posted by: canadagirl | September 10, 2008 2:30 PM | Report abuse

TO: Mssrs. CHERTOFF, MUKASEY, PAULSON, GATES, McCONNELL, MUELLER

"GOV'T AGENCIES SUPPORT DOMESTIC TERRORISM"
http://www.nowpublic.com/world/government-agencies-support-domestic-torture-and-gang-stalking-says-noted-nowpublic-com-columnist

What do you know about this, and what are you doing about it?

Posted by: scrivener | September 10, 2008 2:29 PM | Report abuse

How stupid do you have to be to think that Barack was actually calling Palin a pig? I know that election campaigns are brutal but come on people. Its a well know expression that means trying to dress something ugly in pretty trappings to fool someone. I didnt think this election could get more rediculous but silly me I guess I was wrong. To all you one this post who are expressing hate filled rants to either candidate.... dont you get tired of doing so? I can only imaging how you will choke on your own bile when your candidate loses. Bon apetite!

Posted by: DARRIN | September 10, 2008 2:29 PM | Report abuse

Anonymous

You just don't get Christianity just stuck in the physical world. Come on over to the metaphysical. Being a hypocrite is why people need Church. Church is a celebration not a funeral. If you don't want to attend then that is your business but give me a break; if you are going to make a statement to insult someone for their belief then try to first know what you are talking about. If you call us fools for believing it is a comment, if you call us hypocrites for going to church it is a compliment. Try evolving; change makes you dead--what have you explored in the metaphysical? Don't rely on your faith in Science; it will fail you.

You still will not have all the answers with religion but at least you can celebrate life instead of frowning and being bitter. You can join in or leave it but you should know if you insult religion you are not making a call for change; just showing your ignorance.

It is far easier to insult and turn your back than to work to understand others.

Posted by: michael | September 10, 2008 2:28 PM | Report abuse

C'mon Fix! Do some digging! One youtube search of McCain Lipstick gets us tons of video's of his comments saying the same thing.

Fair and Balanced!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjh0lndmlk0

Posted by: Obama/ McCain/ Palin/ Clinton | September 10, 2008 2:28 PM | Report abuse

This is how Republicans win EVERY TIME:

They set up a bunch of straw-man arguments and watch the Democrats flail away.

Posted by: MBW | September 10, 2008 2:28 PM | Report abuse

Wake up Morons. get to the real issues...the economy has been in the pits over the past many years, the war with Iraq has yet to come to an end, this government continues to spend like drunken sailors and Mccane is promising more deficit spending, jobs, healthcare, inflation, REAL ISSUES and you guys are focussing on CR##!!! No wonder we have the sort of govt we have had for the past 8 years.

Posted by: Yard80197 | September 10, 2008 2:28 PM | Report abuse

HAHAHA!!! The Greedy Oil Party, the party that invented the swiftboating of combat veterans, the party of Lee Atwater and Karl Rove, is OFFENDED at Obama's remark!


It's just another facet of their attempt to intimidate and silence the corporate media, as well as change the subject, because the facts coming out on Palin show that she's incompetent, corrupt, and a religious lunatic.
.

Posted by: Susan Haney | September 10, 2008 2:27 PM | Report abuse

I agree with the commenter who noted that the Republicans get noticeably more bizarre with each passing election cycle. I know that the half-life of this kind of nonsense is short, but the cynical desperation behind the tactics is poisonous to our national good will: The Republicans, with their "doing-anything, say-anything" approach to holding on to power, are doing scorched-earth. "What, we're in danger of losing the White House, the country? Time to burn it down, before the other guys get it."

Enough! You Repugs, as a party, are relegating yourselves to the ash-bin of history with these tactics of yours!!! I want political leadership that appeals to our innate, societal bent toward faith, hope, love, truth, and forgiveness, not dishonest, cynical, desperate grabs at power for power's sake.

Posted by: EveryWord | September 10, 2008 2:27 PM | Report abuse

The lipstick comment is nothing compared with the LIES the McCain campaign has been making ever since the Conventions ended. I have come to expect embellishments and stretching of the truth at times during an election year but the latest McCain ad about Obama's education record?!? That's way over the line and flat out disgusting! I've had it with the McCain campaign - shame on you!

Posted by: LikeISeeIt | September 10, 2008 2:27 PM | Report abuse

The truth is (an Obama never said it) McCain is the pig and Palin is his lipstick. Now there is some truth!

McCains use of term “ Lipstick on a pig” against Hillary.

McCain himself has used the same phrase not once, not twice, but at least three times.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMPYkNQlJMM

The first one is the one that's gotten all the attention: McCain using the phrase last October to describe Hillary's health plan. But there are two more examples.

At a press conference on Iraq war strategy on February 1, 2007, McCain said:

"It gets down to whether you support what's being done in this new strategy or you don't. You can put lipstick on a pig. It's still a pig in my view."

McCain said the phrase again that same day in a similar context:

"It's all about withdrawal or not withdrawal, okay? I mean that's what it's all about. You can put lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig."

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 2:27 PM | Report abuse

Chris of the Fix...I find your blog personally insulting. I know the mainstream media wants to make this election about things other than the real issues in America, but as Obama has said before "ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!"

In your entire blog you fail to mention McCain's usage of the term involving "lipstick" and "pigs" even as early as last year when referring to Hillary Clinton and healthcare. Instead you try to drag Hillary back into it by talking about her "Bobby Kennedy" gaffe.

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH! We have got an economy going down the tank (i.e. 8th straight month of job losses, government bailouts of major creditors, financial firms with large losses, $400 billion plus federal government deficits with more yet to come) and a "War On Terror" with two countries Iraq and Afghanistan that has been ongoing since 2002 with Afghanistan slipping more into disarray while Bush and McCain talk about victory in Iraq with over 140,000 U.S. troops still in Iraq and America continually spends $10 billion a month in Iraq.

It is a freakin' shame that we are one day away from remembering 9/11 for the 7th time and Al Qaeda is still strong and Bin Laden is living in a cave in Pakistan sippin' tea and planning his next terrorist moves!

Posted by: Obama-Junkie | September 10, 2008 2:26 PM | Report abuse

Yeah Norm, you will. Fact is, you already have. It's called drinking Kool-Aid.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 2:26 PM | Report abuse

Wow! I wouldn't have believed it, but after reviewing the tape, it's pretty clear that Senator Obama DID in fact intend the statement as a reference to Governor Palin. If this is the best he's got (calling the other candidates names, whether that candidate is a man or a woman), then this election is over.

Posted by: gjd13 | September 10, 2008 2:26 PM | Report abuse


You can call me an elitist if you like, but I'm sick letting a bunch of flat-earth, armchair patriot, gun-toting, religious zealots pick our presidents.

Democrats need to get off the goodie-goodie high road and drag the Republicans through the mud too.

You would think that after all these defeats our party would learn something.

Posted by: MIBWILSO | September 10, 2008 2:26 PM | Report abuse

Obama hits the nail on the head again. Kudos to the majority of news outlets for not spinning Obama's comments somehow.

News outlets must learn to focus on what is important, even if it means less readership. Look guys, the future of the country is at stake. Please stop publishing the non-news just because some candidate is trying to score some points with a grossly ill-informed public.

If the news outlets refused to follow the garbage, our country will be much less likely to be founded on garbage.

Or is that too much to ask?

Posted by: Al Oliver | September 10, 2008 2:25 PM | Report abuse

Hey bondsith, can you say "straw man argument?"

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 2:25 PM | Report abuse

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4v8FMwUr7w

McCain used the "lipstick on a pig" analogy not only last october by again in MAY!

INCREDIBLE!

Posted by: McCain said it in May too! | September 10, 2008 2:24 PM | Report abuse

mm wrote:Dear Little Sunshine:

It is quite obvious you have never been a hockey mom!
The Obama pig statement was intentional because the public can perceive it both ways in order to start a heated debate. Obama is a master of it!
The Democrats need to start thinking about their views of women.
_____________________
Dear Little MM: You don't get that you are giving a pass to Ms. Palin, but holding Obama to account on a remark not directed at her. Obama's remark was about McCain and his useless ideas about the economy, using terminology that McCain used against Hillary. You are making a fuss, like other Republicans, to draw attention away from the fact that the Republicans don't know how to fix the economy after they ruined it.

Of all people to be using the sexist label, McCain is truly unbelievable.


Posted by: Sunshine | September 10, 2008 2:24 PM | Report abuse

Hmmm I see several comments. I'm offended I thought Obama was a gentleman. I'm going to vote for McCain and Palin now.
Nice try Karl, not going to fall for it.

Posted by: Norm | September 10, 2008 2:24 PM | Report abuse

McCain dies in office. Sarah Palin is in a cold war staredown with Bad Vlad Putin. She orders a bombing strike on Samara. Russia calls on China and Iraq to bomb Israel, Japan and South Korea. WWIII.

Posted by: Scotty | September 10, 2008 2:16 PM

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Yeah, that's the only scenario, even the likely one. Because it would just be Sarah Palin alone, without a Cabinet, without a Chief of Staff, without the various agencies advising her. Yeah, it's doomsday. (rolls eyes)

Cheer up. If things get really bad, you can beam us all up, Scotty. I mean, that's where you are, right? In Tomorrow Land? Oh, sorry, I guess that's Fantasy Land to the rest of us.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 2:24 PM | Report abuse

Today's McSame press conference -

Press - Senator McCain, what are your thoughts on FHMC and FNMA being bailed out by the government?

McSame: It's despicable that my opponent said lipstick and pig in the same sentence.

Press: Doesn't a government bailout go against your philosophy of free markets?

McSame: I am ashamed that my opponents have smeared my beautiful running mate.

Press: Senator, it's well-known that you used the same simile discussing Senator Clinton.

McSame: Noun. Verb. POW.

Press: Senator McCain, how much do you know about your running mate's background?

McSame: Governor Palin's background is off-limits to the media.

Press: Senator, thank you for the straight talk.

McSame: You're welcome, POW. I think that we POW need to be honest POW to the people that Cindy, Sarah, and POW I expect to serve us POW POW POW in the POW White House.

Posted by: bondjedi | September 10, 2008 2:23 PM | Report abuse

Can we focus on the issues please? Don't let the McCain campaign skirt the issues of this campaign. OH NO! I said skirt. Yes, McCain is hiding behind Palin's skirt. Heck, he's hanging on to it so tight it looks as if he's about to tear the darn thing off her.

Posted by: Frank Booth | September 10, 2008 2:23 PM | Report abuse

No, I do not mean Obama

Take some deep breaths. you will feel better.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 2:23 PM | Report abuse

When Obama responds this ad depicting the wolf I hope he'll use some pictures of wolves slaughtered from the air with their paws cut off to claim Palin's prize money.

http://www.salon.com/env/feature/2008/09/08/sarah_palin_wolves/
"Palin offered the $150 bounty for wolf paws in 2007 after efforts to kill wolves from airplanes that season were, in her view, coming up short. State officials had hoped that 382 to 664 wolves would be killed during that predator-control season. State officials were disappointed when only 115 wolves were killed from the air."

Posted by: free bird | September 10, 2008 2:22 PM | Report abuse

"Had To Be Said" you're pathetic and a prime example of exactly what is wrong with this nation, which is ignorance and then pure anger. You fell for Bush's LIES and then wonder why your mobile home takes $200 to fill up and yet you choose to vote for the same guys who are causing your grief. It's like baking cookies for bullies after they beat you and rob you. If McCain wins I'm glad I can find a job in other parts of the world!!

Posted by: Abnner | September 10, 2008 2:21 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin is in a cold war staredown with Bad Vlad Putin.

Not a problem. Caribou Barbie will put on her lipstick and her Pit bull costume and tear him a new donkey hole.

And then field dress him so she can put putin's hide on the wall of her new office.

(don't get any blood on the carpet. we only clean them every 4 years and we just did last month)

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 2:21 PM | Report abuse

Somebody needs to get McCain to show off that famous temper of his.

Can't some reporter goad him into some testy response??

Posted by: MBW | September 10, 2008 2:21 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 2:20 PM | Report abuse

Love the McCain video. Any chance there will be a backlash among the con victims who fell for the McCain smear, or do you think they are just too dumb to see what suckers they were being played for?

Posted by: Biff | September 10, 2008 2:20 PM | Report abuse

screenplay:
"Any man who is debating any woman, be it his wife or a political opponent and within a period of ten seconds uses the words pig, lipstick and fish smell is an absolute IDIOT."

Exactly, and a jerk at best.

Posted by: Billw
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Agreed it was foolish to think a woman would use name calling as an excuse, one that Palin is using and denounced when she said Hillary was doing so.

Any man or woman who thinks woman can not, and should not, be able to take anything that an opponent dishes out is a knuckle dragging idiot.

Posted by: patrick nyc | September 10, 2008 2:20 PM | Report abuse

Hey Scotty-

Didn't you mean Iran instead of Iraq. Either way, this is a likely scenario considering Palin is an endtimer.

Posted by: Jerry Green | September 10, 2008 2:20 PM | Report abuse

When Bill Clinton called Obama's Iraq war stand "a fairy tale", he was widely viewed (by your newspaper too) as being racist. He was not given the benefit of doubt when he deserved one. Let's look at the context here:

1. Palin had used a very well received lipstick analogy to describe herself as a fighter. It is widely repeated and talked about.

2. Obama is known to be almost surgical in his usage of words. He is very careful and cautious. A thoughtful man. Just a coincidence - give me a break while you are giving him the benefit of doubt.

3. The crowd erupted into shrieks, whoops and cheers just as soon as he said it. Why should they get so delirious if this is not radioactive humor? Yes, the crowd knows what is going on.

McCain used this phrase when talking about Hillary's healthcare plan. Obama basically called Palin a pig in the same way he mocked and insulted Hillary many times but got away because the media is not discouraging him from it. This is a disgrace.

Look at Obama's statement:

"You can put lipstick on a pig. It's still a pig. You can wrap an old fish in a piece of paper and call it change. It's still going to stink, after eight years."

Heck, if I were being honest, the guy is clearly saying Old Fish/Pig '08.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 2:19 PM | Report abuse

UNBELIEVABLE. ACCUSING SARAH PALIN OF FAKING HER PREGNANCY, BRISTOL PALIN OF SORDID UPBRINGING THAT CAUSED UNWED PREGNANCY, AND NOW THIS. WHAT KIND OF LOWDOWN FILTH ARE OBAMA AND HIS CAMPAIGN? I COULD SPIT ON THEM FROM HERE TO ETERNITY AND STILL HAVE ENOUGH SPIT LEFT TO DO IT ALL OVER AGAIN AND AGAIN. I CANNOT BELIEVE THAT COKE-SNORTING, GOD-DAMN-AMERICA-PASTOR-LOVING, SMALL-TOWN HATING, HILLARY-BASHING, NAME-CALLING, FINGER-FLIPPING, HARVARD-PREENING, KENNEDY-SUCKING, PSEUDO-CHANGE-SELLING, EMPTY-SPEECH-MAKING PIED SNOBAMA PIPER, HAS FALLEN TO THIS DEPTH OF SEWAGE. OBAMA AND HIS CAMPAIGN AIDES ARE WORSE THAN INSECTS SUFFERING FROM LEPROSY.

Posted by: No, I do not mean Obama | September 10, 2008 2:19 PM | Report abuse

This "controversy" has got to be a story from the Onion, right? Using a very common coloquialism to describe the McCain policy stance is a personal attack on Sarah Palin. She must be one really self-absorbed candidate. Put simply that dog don't hunt! WOoops, sorry Sarah, I am not talking about you. Honest. We could be in for some really funny fireworks everytime someone speaks in public. And as far as that goes, I'm really not talking about Sarah since she never speaks in public.

Posted by: Sean o | September 10, 2008 2:18 PM | Report abuse

Why is it okay for John McCain to use the "lipstick on a pig" analogy when referencing Hillary Clinton in October of last year and not okay for Barack Obama to use it in a similar fashion?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BR8IhMMhe8w

Maybe a bigger question is, how come the Obama campaign hasn't used this argument!?!

Posted by: ConcernedCommenter | September 10, 2008 2:17 PM | Report abuse

Bottom line is this, despite all of the baloney that has been said and will be said by and about our vaunted nominees:

If you like the way the republicans have been running the country for the last 8 years, vote for McCain. If you don't, vote for Obama.

The choice is very clear when it comes right down to it --as it always is when you enter the booth and cast your vote.

Posted by: old_hippie | September 10, 2008 2:17 PM | Report abuse

And included among those are the Christians that conveniently dismiss the Commandment "Thou shall not bear false witness against thy neighbor".

Amen brother. Most Christians belong to the Church of Hypocrisy.

They get to together on sundays and tell each other how good they are and how much they love the world.

And then spend the next 6 days spreading lies, hate and hypocrisy for anyone who gets in their way.

Gotta love them!!

Well you don't have to. I certainly don't.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 2:17 PM | Report abuse

We're still talking about honor with this guy (McCain)? Face it. McCain is running the sleaziest presidential campaign of our lifetimes. McCain and Palin are out their lying their heads off. Liars have no honor.


Posted by: Audrey Beck | September 10, 2008 2:16 PM | Report abuse

McCain dies in office. Sarah Palin is in a cold war staredown with Bad Vlad Putin. She orders a bombing strike on Samara. Russia calls on China and Iraq to bomb Israel, Japan and South Korea. WWIII.

Posted by: Scotty | September 10, 2008 2:16 PM | Report abuse

Where did McCain learn these tactics? In 2000 Rove & Co. dropped leaflets and push polled voters in South Carolina telling them that McCain had a black child and that his wife Cindy was a drug addict. McCain, who approved this message is a worm. I no longer have any respect for the man and wouldn't vote for him if he were the only soul in the race.

Beltway Greg

Posted by: Beltway Greg | September 10, 2008 2:16 PM | Report abuse

caribou barbie and old man mccain, what team!

Posted by: hal | September 10, 2008 2:15 PM | Report abuse

lets say that he did call her a pig. That is a nice term for the tralor trash that is the Palins. It would be truly embarrassing as a nation to have someone like her a heart beat away from the president.

Posted by: TexDem | September 10, 2008 2:15 PM | Report abuse

The republicans wouldn't be nearly as effective in turning the focus away from real issues to the 'pig with lipstick' if the media didn't let them. They televise it, talk about it, write about it....how about ignore it?

I wouldn't want a pitbull in my house, and I don't want one in the White House. (and yes, I'm refering to Palin).

Posted by: Chris Michaels | September 10, 2008 2:15 PM | Report abuse

If you think Obama writes his own speeches you MUST be an imbecile. If you have ever had the occasion just one to hear him speak extemporaneously even just once you would know immediately he has the intellectual capacity of a small rock. He cannot complete even a simple statement in response to the most basic of questions without a dozen huh’s, ummm’s, ya know’s, etc, etc, etc………….

Who is trying to kid whom? The story is out there that he writes his own speeches simply to cover up the obvious fact he is a total M-O-R-O-N!!!!

The worst part is – the equally ignorant constituents of the Democratic Party think he is the Messiah. No wonder you guys can’t get a President elected. Who wants to be part of an international embarrassment?

Posted by: robt | September 10, 2008 2:15 PM | Report abuse

"
Obama was right. They want to make this an election about little things, not big ideas.
"

Big ideas? It is big joke. Show me tiny bit of the change by those Chicago political poker players.

Maybe Obama and his liberals think stupid people still enjoy watching his new clothes.

Wake up! Obama's change still stay on his tongue!

Keep pig's tongue if Obama does not like pig's lipstick.

Posted by: jy2008 | September 10, 2008 2:14 PM | Report abuse

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screenplay:
"Any man who is debating any woman, be it his wife or a political opponent and within a period of ten seconds uses the words pig, lipstick and fish smell is an absolute IDIOT."

Exactly, and a jerk at best.


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Posted by: Billw | September 10, 2008 2:13 PM | Report abuse

Love the christiansareevil comment. Don't you wish the rapture would come already and get rid of them?

As for anonymous comments. I would be surprised if this person was old enough to vote.

Posted by: jj | September 10, 2008 2:13 PM | Report abuse

caribou barbie and old man mccain,
what a team

Posted by: bill | September 10, 2008 2:13 PM | Report abuse

To the snark Sharon who apparently takes her cue from the failings of her less than presidential leader Barack Hussein Obama, the answer is easy to one who truly isn't an idiot (hint: Mary is not). And it is this: McCain has the only "multi-cultural" message America needs. And that message is: AMERICA FIRST.

Deal with it, you vile little poser.

Posted by: Alex | September 10, 2008 2:13 PM | Report abuse

I don't get it. Where's the controversy? Palin isn't the pig. Palin's the lipstick. McCain's the pig. What's there to understand about it?

Posted by: John K | September 10, 2008 2:13 PM | Report abuse

I didn't hear Obama call McCain an old fish, but the Republicans crying fowl does smell fishy, and I know Sarah's McPalin's nickname is the Baracuda.

Posted by: Jake | September 10, 2008 2:13 PM | Report abuse

And dragging your pregnant un-wed daughter and her sperm donor on to the GOP stage for national TV isn't very vice-presidential either.

Actually it's kind of tacky!

Posted by: White Igloo Trailer Park | September 10, 2008 2:13 PM | Report abuse

McCain's insistence on drilling? Lipstick on a pig!


McCain's discussion of Iraq War limited to citing the surge? Lipstick on a pig!


McCain's choice of VP? Bright, colorful lipstick on a dying freaking pig! Makes it prettier, but doesn't change the basic fact that the McCain ticket is four more years of the past eight years.

Posted by: Darla Kyler | September 10, 2008 2:12 PM | Report abuse

While we're on the topic-it looks like McCain sure can wallow in it. He learned well from what bush did to him in 2000. I suppose there will be those who will vote for McCain merely because he was unfortunate to have fallen into enemy hands. It really wasn't any active act of heroism, (like diving onto a grenade) but rather a passive victim of circumstance. His true heroism was signing up to volunteer in the first place, (but as we saw with Kerry-that doesn't count).
Now-when action is required, we don't see heroism, we see cowardice, as McCain sells his soul, and his country out to satisfy his ambition.

Posted by: Biff | September 10, 2008 2:12 PM | Report abuse

The second the words came out of Obama's mouth, the audience cheered with childish delight. I noticed that he had a somewhat confused look on his face when that happened. Maybe he didn't get the joke, but the audience certainly did. I find it troubling that he didn't get it. A truly astute statesman would have immediately turned around and with wit and humor chastised the audience for "going there". If he had done that, there would have been no problem. Obama is not ready for prime time.

Posted by: Ken | September 10, 2008 2:12 PM | Report abuse

This country is full of f*d up people.

And included among those are the Christians that conveniently dismiss the Commandment "Thou shall not bear false witness against thy neighbor". They don't give a damn about that one, so long as their own interests are advanced by continuing to lie about Obama the man and Obama the leader, his beliefs and his actions. They also get very selective when applying the Commandment "thou shall not commit adultry".

I hope Obama throws down the gauntlet and says "I gave it my best shot at putting this campaign on the high road. Maybe next time, but I've had enough. If McCain is going to fight in the gutter he better make room cause I'm coming down.".

Posted by: ArtM72 | September 10, 2008 2:11 PM | Report abuse

The lipstick comment was either stupid or vicious on Obama's part. Either way, it wasn't presidential.

Being a member of the Keating 5 isn't very presidential either.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 2:10 PM | Report abuse

Bloggers unite!

Post this youtube link about McCain's lipstick on a pig ALL OVER THE INTERNET until the press picks it up!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMPYkNQlJMM

Posted by: Bill | September 10, 2008 2:10 PM | Report abuse

caribou barbie...lol
A cancer ridden old man gets elected and dies in office. Sarah takes over and there's a major crisis. We have to wait for her to put her makeup on and get her hair done before she makes a decision.
What a stupid choice McCain made choosing a moose hunting cheerleader as a running mate. Republicans get more bizarre every year. They have to prep her for two weeks before she'll give the press an interview!
I hope Biden takes the gloves off in the debates, she's wants to play in the big leagues so she's fair game. I know McCain's going to get exposed for dumbass puppet that he is.

Posted by: tom | September 10, 2008 2:10 PM | Report abuse

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OBAMA'S CHARACTER

Obama called Palin a pig and McCain an old fish. His true character surfaced again. He is a vain undignified jerk.


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Posted by: Billw | September 10, 2008 2:08 PM | Report abuse

And didn't Palin comment that the only difference between a hockey mom and a bulldog is 'lipstick? LOL


It's a pit bull not a bull dog. Dammit!

That's all we need is Republican Bull Dog owners ranting and raving about Obama's lack of character for making disparaging comments about Bull Dogs.

Caribou Barbie said the only difference between hockey mom's and Pit bull's was lipstick.

She is a Pit bull with lipstick. Not a pig with lipstick.

That is an entirely different controversy!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 2:08 PM | Report abuse

Equating one's campaign for the presidency to an assassination is not common parlance. 'Lipstick on a pig' is. Comprends, Fix, or are you also as retarded as Katie Couric and co.?

Posted by: Baby Fix | September 10, 2008 2:07 PM | Report abuse

September 10, 2008
Obama Responds to ‘Phony Outrage’

NORFOLK, Va. — Senator Barack Obama accused his Republican rivals on Wednesday of stirring “phony outrage” over a colloquial comment he made one day earlier about putting “lipstick on a pig,” which he said was a clear reference to Senator John McCain’s policies not a derogatory slur against his running-mate.

“Enough!” Mr. Obama said, interrupting a speech on education to address the latest controversy in the heated presidential campaign. “I don’t care what they say about me, but I love this country too much to let them take over another election with lies and phony outrage and swift boat politics. Enough is enough.”

“What their campaign has done this morning is the same game that has made people sick and tired of politics in this country. They seize on an innocent remark, try to take it out of context, throw out an outrageous ad because they know it’s catnip for the news media,” Mr. Obama said. “I’m assuming you guys heard this watching the news. I’m talking about John McCain’s economic policies and I said here’s more of the same, “You can put lipstick on a pig, but it’s still a pig. Suddenly, they say, Oh you must be talking about the governor of Alaska!”

As the audience applauded, he added: “See it would be funny, it would be funny except, of course the news media decided that was the lead story yesterday. The McCain campaign would much rather have the story about phony and foolish diversions than about the future.”

“Spare me the phony outrage. Spare me the phony talk about change,” Mr. Obama said. “We have real problems in this country right now and the American people are looking to us for answers, not distractions, not diversions, not manipulations.”

Watch the clip:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/26640762#26640762

Posted by: Liz | September 10, 2008 2:07 PM | Report abuse

I don't have all day for this today like yesterday but just so you know Anonymous we get it, you are angry and confused. Maybe it is time for a trip away from the keyboard. If I leave will you?

Bye enjoy the last word

For the Republicans out there:
Have fun with this.... remember to emphasize the fact that the "do nothing congress" shut off the lights and went on vacation and now with their sorry percentage of approval and their tail between their legs they finally , (long delayed) answer their constituents with a energy "now" plan.

Posted by: Jennifer | September 10, 2008 2:07 PM | Report abuse

I may be an idiot, Sharon, but my vote counts as much as even an intellectual giant such as yourself does. That must really tick you off! LOL

Thanks for showing everyone here the bankruptcy of your ideas, which require adhominem in their flimsy attempt to make whatever point you thought were you making.

Wow, what a grand old dame you are! A true believer of Obama's message of Hope and Change.

Posted by: Mary | September 10, 2008 2:06 PM | Report abuse

The lipstick comment was either stupid or vicious on Obama's part. Either way, it wasn't presidential.

Posted by: Kathy | September 10, 2008 2:06 PM | Report abuse

If I were Barack, I would have just stated the obvious: McCain is the “pig,” and Palin is _his_ lipstick. He has slapped her on in a desperate attempt to remake himself, but we’re smarter than that. McCain is still McCain, just increasingly more desperate, cynical, and dishonest. And we are still not hearing any plans or intent from the Republicans about the issues my family cares about most. Senator McCain has sold himself out — sold out the man he _used_ to be.

Barack should continue to take the high road, emphasizing issues, his goals and objectives, and let his staff answer the small stuff. He should not speak directly about Palin — that’s Joe Biden’s job (and Hillary’s, if she would care to come out of the woodwork.)

Posted by: EveryWord | September 10, 2008 2:06 PM | Report abuse

McCain has been hogging enough of the headlines with his hogwash. He isn't about change. He is no maverick unless you want to stay in Iraq for 100 years or bomb bomb the hell out of Iran.
Lets chop all this pork and expose McPalin as the team of more of the same DubyaBushnomics and Cheney part III.

Posted by: Nate | September 10, 2008 2:06 PM | Report abuse

The only change I see with McCain is how he's changing back into "McNasty."

No more straight-talk -- no, McCain drove that bus off into a ditch.

The real McCain has apparently decided to replace straight talk with snark, slander and slurs.

Conduct unbefitting a candidate for the Presidency, as far as I'm concerned.

People oughta remember that Bush lied, and people have died.

Better think again before you give your next vote to another couple of liars.

Posted by: Eliot | September 10, 2008 2:05 PM | Report abuse

General David Petraeus recently made that same analogy in an interview with Newsweek very recently.

John McCain made the same analogy when referring to Hilary Clintons healthcare plan a few months ago.

Why is it all of the sudden off limits for Obama to say the "pig with lipstick" comment?

The whole thing is overblown and silly..unless...The repulicans see the resemblance between a pig in lipstick and Sarah Palin.

It's sexist biggitery. Just because she is a woman, and because there are a lot of women in this country with the illusion of being overweight, they expect the general public to feel sympathy for a comment that is being distorted by the media and political spin doctors.

It's all a distraction...and everyone needs to take a step back and listen to what is really being said by both parties (or at least the party with something relevant to say), and ignore these little distraction they keep sending our way.

Posted by: e.d. lebadose | September 10, 2008 2:04 PM | Report abuse

What I like about all the retorts from the left is that they are sooooo void of intellect. Obama HAS changed every position he has had to match McCain, Wright WAS correct when he said Obama is just changing his rhetoric to make it to the white house.

The names you apply to Thompson could more accurately applied to Obama.

Just yesterday an article appeared that quoted Obama's boss from when he was a "community organizer" saying he was a failure then and has not been successful at one thing since.

He’s known him for 20+ years, I guess he would know better than I (OR YOU).

Posted by: robt | September 10, 2008 2:04 PM | Report abuse

This one of the many good reasons why I am 110% in Obama's corner. The Republicans have destroyed America as we once knew our great country. We are now trillions in debt to foreigners, where we once had a huge surplus under Clinton. John McCain will be the death of us all if Americans are stupid enough to elect him based on these distractions and personal pot shots like people foolishly once listened to and voted for Bush when he campaigned on lies and smears like this. McCain is a two faced liar, he vowed not to run his campaign like this and here he is every day smearing away and ignoring the real issues we all now face because of McCain's buddy Bush. In his very OWN words McCain voted OVER NINETY PER CENT of the time with Bush, what does that tell you people? are you McCain supporters really that dumb? seriously? you should all have the word SUCKER tattooed on your heads. Barack Obama is very intelligent and more than qualified to be President as he continues to prove every day with the way he handles these attacks. He has shown maturity, intelligence, toughness, love for country and that he actually seriously cares about the future of the American people and our needs in these unbearable economic times. Obama offers many solutions to our problems, McCain offers lies and attacks just like Bush did and still does. I have seen John McCain go from the maverick he once was years ago to just another lying, empty headed Neo Con just like the rest and Palin is no better. If anyone actually thinks these two money grabbing Neo Cons will bring healthy and prosperous change to the American people, to the working and middle class, they need their heads examined. Look at what they have to offer, it's not at all what we need, not at all the kind of real solutions we need at a time when we are kicked and down after eight straight long and seriously damaging years of Republican corruption.. The Republican party lead by Bush is more responsible than anyone for the weakened and decimated state America is now in, rewarding them with four more years to do more damage would be like sticking the knife in our own backs. Remember this, Bush and Cheney are the same as McCain and Palin, you will regret your vote of you make the mistake of voting for these two liars that claim to put 'Country First' instead of the American PEOPLE.

Posted by: Democrats 08 | September 10, 2008 2:03 PM | Report abuse

I find this controversy infuriating! The Republicans have been playing this game for more than a decade and it is getting SO old. Time and time again, the Democrats have been on the right side of the issues. Because the Republicans know that, they try to destroy their opponent’s character through personal attacks. Generally, they are too cowardly to do it themselves, so they use third parties. It's thug politics and it's despicable. The really pathetic thing is to see Republicans whining about how abused they are when they get even a hint of the same back. McCain was himself the object of this kind of underhanded tactic in 2000, so it is particularly disappointing to see him use it now. What is with you Republicans? When will the rank and file members of the party stand up and object to the dirty politics that is being waged in your name? Many of you claim to be “values voters”. Aside unbelievable arrogance of that assertion, why won’t you at least try to live up to you own Christian values? In all honesty, do you really believe that Christ would be happy with where you (not the country, not the culture, but you) have ended up? At long last, have you no shame?

Posted by: deetz | September 10, 2008 2:03 PM | Report abuse

Yes, Deborah, that's how the media handles the two parties. They don't report McCain's policy proposals, then the paid snarks in Obama's campaign beat the drum that McCain has "no plans."

It's despicable but known and already their effect is being neutralized as the polls clearly show.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 2:03 PM | Report abuse

Bloggers unite!

Post this youtube link about McCain's lipstick on a pig ALL OVER THE INTERNET until the press picks it up!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMPYkNQlJMM

Posted by: Bill | September 10, 2008 2:03 PM | Report abuse

Lets see hmmm- McCain made the same exact lipstick remark, joked about why Hillary"s daughter was so ugly, (because Janet Reno was her daddy) ,Called Obamas daughters brats.. Wow the silence was deafening. Sounds like a double standard to me.
By the way I think Hillary"daughter has turned into a beautiful young woman..
Yeh Yeh, I don't know how to spell her name..

Posted by: Mary | September 10, 2008 2:02 PM | Report abuse

And now, McCain is using ROVIAN tactics to try to get into the White House.

He hired Rove's technicians to do just this.

Hey can't blame them for doing their job!!

Or Scooter Libby, Karl Rove, Alberto Gonzales, John Yee, 'Brownie", et al.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 2:02 PM | Report abuse

Stop with the whole, "the liberal press and Obama are being mean to me" stick! It is belittling to women. As every fighter knows, if you don't want to get hit, don't get in the ring.

Posted by: dman | September 10, 2008 2:02 PM | Report abuse

americans are just stupid. when mcsame is president and bombing all the "other" countries he wants too (thats russia, syria, iran to start), everyone come back and read this post.

let's wake up and smell the coffee.

Posted by: paul | September 10, 2008 2:02 PM | Report abuse

"If he (Obama) cannot master conversations within his own country, how much more of a failure is he likely to be with real barriers of language translation, multicultural differences, and non-scripted, non-teleprompter occasions?"

Says it all in my opinion.

Mary

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Mary what planet did you write from?

You did mean McCain and especially Palin, not Obama right? Senator Obama writes his own speeches. What about Senator McCain - who definitely has not mastered the use of the teleprompter as has his running mate. When is the GOP going to stop holding her hand so that we can see how she masters conversations without benefit of a script written for her by the same team that brought us words of wisdom from W? What other languages does McCain speak and what multicultural environments has he spent time? This goes double for his running mate. We have not heard one unscripted work from her yet and she even had to read the script when introducting her family.

I hate to say this Mary, but you my dear are an idiot!

Posted by: Sharon | September 10, 2008 2:01 PM | Report abuse

And didn't Palin comment that the only difference between a hockey mom and a bulldog is 'lipstick? LOL

Amazing.

Posted by: Jim | September 10, 2008 2:01 PM | Report abuse

Any man who is debating any woman, be it his wife or a political opponent and within a period of ten seconds uses the words pig, lipstick and fish smell is an absolute IDIOT. It dosen't matter what his intention was. No wonder Palin isn't giving interviews, why should she. When someone is making a fool of themself it is better to shut up, sit back and enjoy the show.

Posted by: screenplay | September 10, 2008 1:54 PM

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Absolutely correct. It's a dynamic that all the "intellectual" arguments and defenses from the Left, and for all their so-called "intelligence," cannot grasp. (To say nothing of the trolls here and elsewhere that think the entire pov is valid and should actually be PUSHED. lol)

Sit back and enjoy the show indeed! As the clock ticks down to November and a McCain-Palin sweep. The really tasty thing is that it will be as surprising to the Obamites as Hillary's public rape was to her, done by the same dems.

Posted by: Frank | September 10, 2008 2:00 PM | Report abuse

I finished reading the reviews of both McCain and Obama's rallies in Ohio on Tuesday.
The reporter at Obama's stump wrote about his comments about his strategy for education by increasing federal funding of for-profit charter schools but holding them accountable, closing those that fail. He also commented to use republican backed ideals such as school choice and performance pay for teachers.
The reporter at the McCain stump reported comments from the crowd such as "we would be buddies if we knew each other", "My story is like hers", A woman took her kids out of school and drove one hour to see Palin. [not McCain]. The only talking point the reporter could use were Palin's reharshed convention speech. NOT ONE COMMENT ABOUT THE REPUBLICaN PLATFORM POLICY OR ISSUEs FACING THIS COUNTRY NOW AND THE GROWTH OR STAGNATION OF THIS COUNTRY'S FUTURE!!!
What scares me the most is the sheeplike mentality of our citizens. IS this 'I want a buddy in the white house' the result of years of reality TV. Have we all been conditioned to make choice with an American Idol phone-it-in attitude?
The campaign candidates talk about fighting terrorism. I am in terror at the thought that the next Administration of The United States will be choosen based on swept-to-the-side bangs. Women who see her as someone like them need to add new dimensions to their lifes beyond their children's school activities. I feel terrorized that according to the political polls 48% of Americans believe and embrace as fact the PROVEN and DOCUMENTED lies spewed by the Republican candidates. I am terrorized at the thought that the RNC believes that their campaign strategy sways the American public. By the way,this campaign is the same campaign that Bush ran in 2004. Will these reform candiadtes start being reformed after they are elected? RIIIIIGHT! I am terrorized that they would rather believe a lie and half-truths over the future of our children and our elderly lives. I am terrorized that I do not have the financial ability to be above all the issues that this nation will face in the coming years unless that 48% begin to think with some degree of intellect or acquired information. The congressional record is available to everyone to read for themselves what each candidate has done.
Which acts of terror can you live with? Those across the vast ocean or the our national campaign. One last comment: THE WORLD IS NOT A HOCKEY FIELD!!!

Posted by: Deborah Wright | September 10, 2008 2:00 PM | Report abuse

John McSame picked an ethics challenged creationist cheerleader (Palin) as his running-mate and now Palin won't talk to the press (and we all know why) yet she gets up and makes some dumbass speech everyday where she's calling out Democrats, Obama, Biden etc....and the freaking corporate media runs with it?!?!

Where the hell does she get off calling out ANYONE when she's to damn afraid of having to go off script (Charlie Gibson?...pleeeease) and answer some questions from the media? And there are a LOT of questions she needs to answer to...

I know in these tough economic times it's sometimes hard to remember how many houses you own but C'mon Corporate Media, Do Your Damn Job For Once!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxT0s_I5WtA
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Posted by: Olivia Welsh | September 10, 2008 2:00 PM | Report abuse

MM wrote:
The Obama pig statement was intentional because the public can perceive it both ways in order to start a heated debate. Obama is a master of it!

The Democrats need to start thinking about their views of women.
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Anonymous wrote:
Don't we have wars and econony's that need to be discussed?

Who gives a fat rats @ass what words he used and what you think he meant.

IT'S ABOUT THE ECONOMY , STUPID!!!!
______________________________

Thank you Anon for reinforcing my belief Obama's supporters are hate-mongering mysogynists.

The chickens have come home to roost...ain't that right Rev. Wright.

Posted by: MM | September 10, 2008 2:00 PM | Report abuse

Regarding the Lipsticked Pig controversy--

1. It's not a controversy.

2. It's not real news but does sell newspapers--shame on you national media!!

3. It's being used as a distraction by Republican's to further assasinate Obama's character which is a strategy they employ.

4. It further isolates McCain from justifying his reasoning for being president and having to explain his plan to be a better president than Obama.

5. It's an indication of how superficial American voters have become in getting so distracted with silly arguments while Rome continues to burn.

6. It gets us further away from resolving ever increasingly severe problems we are ignoring with our society.

But we ultimately get what we deserve. Oh well...

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 1:59 PM | Report abuse

I find this controversy infuriating! The Republicans have been playing this game for more than a decade and it is getting SO old. Time and time again, the Democrats have been on the right side of the issues. Because the Republicans know that, they try to destroy their opponent’s character through personal attacks. Generally, they are too cowardly to do it themselves, so they use third parties. It's thug politics and it's despicable. The really pathetic thing is to see Republicans whining about how abused they are when they get even a hint of the same back. McCain was himself the object of this kind of underhanded tactic in 2000, so it is particularly disappointing to see him use it now. What is with you Republicans? When will the rank and file members of the party stand up and object to the dirty politics that is being waged in your name? Many of you claim to be “values voters”. Aside unbelievable arrogance of that assertion, why won’t you at least try to live up to you own Christian values? In all honesty, do you really believe that Christ would be happy with where you (not the country, not the culture, but you) have ended up? At long last, have you no shame?

Posted by: deetz | September 10, 2008 1:59 PM | Report abuse

Just to recap, McCain picked a Religious Extremist OIL State Global Warming Denying VP who Lies about Earmarks with no hesitation. McCain supports the Bush policies that created the current mess. And now, McCain is using ROVIAN tactics to try to get into the White House.

If that isn't Four More Years, please tell me what is.

Posted by: Jim | September 10, 2008 1:59 PM | Report abuse

I have to say I am sorta embarrassed by the Republican statement. On the other hand I think Obama would be embarrassed he said something so, what is the word bucolic? It sounds strange coming from him as he usually sounds like a lawyer making a speech to a jury. Now, the story is of little consequence and in that respect the most embarrassment goes to the media for putting this front and center. That is my honest response.


Aside from the media, I don't really think Obama said this comment thinking he could get away with calling someone a name like "pig." I do think when there is finally a debate maybe the race will have some dignity. Right now circus is a great term to describe the race.

This circus is so much distraction. I would love to hear solutions--I think we need to throw both party candidates overboard and start all over. Still, with the reality of being "stuck" and not having much ability to throw anyone overboard I will vote for the candidate that shares my views not the one that has the least controversy.

Posted by: Jennifer | September 10, 2008 1:59 PM | Report abuse

I was a POW! RIght, and you made propaganda for the commies.
Why is that supposed to be so heroic?
You decided while a POW you should run for president.
Milk it.
Hope no one finds the actual propaganda films you made.
Did your work help the commies to their inevitable victory?
Heroic.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 1:58 PM | Report abuse

Dick Cheney using "lipstick/pig" at political rally. Given the first part of this very brief video, would I be wrong to assume that the Dickster is referring to Teresa Heinz? I mean, what else could it be?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjwVEeq7JiQ

Posted by: Persi | September 10, 2008 1:58 PM | Report abuse

Thank you Chris and all of you for bringing your wisdom to the table. Please consider the words in RED that are written in in the 400 year old KJV bible book of MATTHEW: CHAPTER 7 and MARK CHAPTER 7 and give your thoughts to the eternal one and post for all of us where you stand.

Posted by: variezn34gm | September 10, 2008 1:57 PM | Report abuse

Brilliant. Not content to turn John Kerry into a coward and George Bush into a war hero, the GOP is now at work on the Holy Grail of divide and conquer - Dems are anti-women and Repubs have been sticking up for them for years. Even Democrats are starting to stick to the Republican line.

I challenge anyone to say that Rove isn't mixed up in this one too. The bigger the lie, the more people believe it.

How come the Republicans can't use spin to lower gas prices, bring Russia to heel, get control of the Middle East, find bin Laden, fix schools and bridges, etc. Maybe Rove can get a transmitter in Pakistan and talk bin Laden out of his cave, like a hostage negotiator.

Posted by: bondjedi | September 10, 2008 1:57 PM | Report abuse

"Any man who is debating any woman, be it his wife or a political opponent and within a period of ten seconds uses the words pig, lipstick and fish smell is an absolute IDIOT."

Now hang on fellur, whut if yer wife is a pag and smells like a fash? Ain't that just tellin' er like it is?

Posted by: Had to be said | September 10, 2008 1:57 PM | Report abuse

Obama claims his campaing would be different to all others. His campaing was going to be a clean one, a respectfull one; but we are now seeing otherwise. I never exected he would make such comments about "lipsticked pig." Isn't he aware the controversy he would create and how childish he looks? The way he says it, to me is cinical and as he is having too much fun making fun of others.

Posted by: JS | September 10, 2008 1:56 PM | Report abuse

Let's just remind everybody that Mccain/Palin are republicans, and we have seing enouph with the Republicans for the past 7 years. we have seing enouph damage done by the republicans.

Posted by: Tony | September 10, 2008 1:56 PM | Report abuse

Let them continue to push this to their vast illiterate audience who have never heard this expression. Then-once they're good and worked up-simply release the video of McCain using the same tired old phrase. Oops! I guess the McCain Campaign really WAS taking them all for the suckers they appear to be!

Posted by: Biff | September 10, 2008 1:56 PM | Report abuse

Tastless remark???

Uuh, let's just say that the Republicans can dish it out and not take it.

I think I remember someone calling Chelsea "ugly" and a product of Hillary and Janet Reno?!? Gee, could that have been someone who is now asking for an apology?

Can't make pigs fly was really really good.

Posted by: kathy | September 10, 2008 1:56 PM | Report abuse

Who hates women? McCain calls his wife ( a woman I assume he loves) A C**T, and that goes unnoticed.

Posted by: jwald1 | September 10, 2008 1:55 PM | Report abuse

I am an independent ex USAF pilot, I have no love for either the Democrats or Republicans, in fact I voted for Perot back in the day. But of all the outragious things I have seen in politics over my 50 years, the most amazing is the way the Republicans can manipulate the voters to vote against their best interest. There is no question that neither Republicans nor Democrats are running this country very effectively, but there is also no question that Democrats have proven over and over again that they are better for the economy. During times of Democratic control the deficit decreases, The economy grows faster, the disparity between rich and poor decreases, essentially more people make more money. How the Republicans continue to convince middle and lower class people to vote for them is a truely amazing. Now there is no question that the Republicans do help the rich to get richer, but the trickle down that they always promise has never materialized. The two worst deficits in history came when Reagan and then Bush were Presidents, the biggest paydown of the deficit was when Clinton was President.

Now don't get me wrong, I didn't say I liked Clinton, I'm just saying he was much better for America. If you feel that voting for McCain is the right thing to do based on some unquantifiable character atribute, or as repayment for his 5 years as a POW, that is up to you, but if you actually think that McCain will be better for the economy or healthcare then you are dellusional.

Posted by: captbilly | September 10, 2008 1:55 PM | Report abuse

As this incredibly important election is turning into a farce, is there any chance the Editorial Page of the Washington Post (and every other major newspaper in America) can show some leadership and remind electorate that the issues that are facing America are huge -- and they aren't related to pigs, lipstick, bridges, or "snow machines?"

Any chance at all?

Posted by: Get It Right | September 10, 2008 1:55 PM | Report abuse

I like the wolf metaphor. We SHOULD be hunting Palin down and killing her chances to steal the election for 4 more years of war and appointments for judges whose opinions are written for them by the Fundamentalist Tennesee Taliban.

She gives us some ammo. With some luck, she can be impeached from her gov of Alaska job right before the general election.

Otherwise there is no way to beat her since she is kept in a closet and only trotted out to have her feet worshipped by FOX and ABC.

Posted by: Bruce Becker | September 10, 2008 1:55 PM | Report abuse

"I think you're right. He may be Muslim."

GALL DAGN BOWAH, YER ONE OF US. If ya wunt, you can spend a night wif my pag sally-mae. She rhall sweet bowah. Ffffff!

Posted by: Had to be said | September 10, 2008 1:54 PM | Report abuse

HEY PIG IN LIPSTICK,PLEASE LET THAT
HOMO HANNITY BORROW SOME OF IT!DEMOCRATS
WE DON'T HAVE TO BE IN DENIAL,ABOUT THIS
NUTTY VP PAINLIN,SHE IS NUTTER THAN A FRUIT CAKE,WITH MCCASKET IN HIS LAST DAYS
HE IS WILLING OUR COUNTRY TO THIS LIAR,
AND DUMB BIMP BOW,WE ARE TO TAKE IT IN THE REAR,WE KNOW SHE IS THE DEVIL IN THE BLUE DRESS(DON'T BE JEALOUS HANNITY) HOW CAN WE
ASK OUR MILITARY TO FIGHT AND DIE FOR
THIS BUNCH OF CON MEN AND THIR PHONY
VP PALIN,METH.FIENDARSE,WE DON'T FEAR
YOU CREATURES,CAN'T WAIT TO SEE OBAMA
AND FAMILY KICK THE SH@T OUT OF THIS BIT@H.

OBAMA/BIDEN FIRED UP AND READY TO GO!

Posted by: RUSH(KIDDIE PORN)LIMBAUGH | September 10, 2008 1:54 PM | Report abuse

Any man who is debating any woman, be it his wife or a political opponent and within a period of ten seconds uses the words pig, lipstick and fish smell is an absolute IDIOT. It dosen't matter what his intention was. No wonder Palin isn't giving interviews, why should she. When someone is making a fool of themself it is better to shut up, sit back and enjoy the show.

Posted by: screenplay | September 10, 2008 1:54 PM | Report abuse

Seems to me that the Republicans are playing victim, nice try, but I think it will backfire on them.

Posted by: Tom | September 10, 2008 1:54 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone else find it ironic that McCain's attack dog in this incident is named "Swift"?

Posted by: Frank F1 | September 10, 2008 1:53 PM | Report abuse

This is another phoney controversy that the Republicans are stirring up. McCain has to hold Palin's hand because she can't handle a press conference or answer her thin record of achievements.
Gov McPalin called herself a lipstick wearing bulldog in her speech and now she is afraid to be called out as a Porkbarrel pig loving lobbyist controlled robot.
Get to the issues McPalin and stop trying to hide behind your stupid elephant behinds.

Posted by: Phillip | September 10, 2008 1:53 PM | Report abuse

"Bill's wife should have been Obama's choice."

- Chernama 2008
"The DNC Meltdown" Part 2

Posted by: Monica Lewinsky | September 10, 2008 1:53 PM | Report abuse

Missing from this article...the complicit press who are more than willing to elevate this rubbish into headlines. Shame and shame...the press has become the instrument of distraction and distortion....willingly.

Posted by: gkunz | September 10, 2008 1:53 PM | Report abuse

Hmmm, so how about the personality of the candidate as an issue?

Issue: Is a man who approves blatant lies ready to be President?

Issue: Is the moral character of a liar important to being Commander in Chief?

Issue: When "straight-talk" becomes lie-to-win-at-any-cost and integrity is dispensable, is the candidate worthy of the office?

Issue: Since John McCain ("I approved this message") has decided to descend to the gutter -- his second greatest moral failing -- in his pursuit of power, we now know what kind of man he really is: an opportunist.

FACT: Ross Perot was right about John McCain.

Posted by: upstate111 | September 10, 2008 1:53 PM | Report abuse

Bama the socialist tyrant is KING of pork-barrel spending. It is astounding how many wasteful earmarks he has secured in his short time in office. He even requested tax payer money for his wife's hospital. He offers nothing more than pocket change and hope for government cheese. He'll reduce Americans to pathetic beggars.

Posted by: Peter | September 10, 2008 1:53 PM | Report abuse

The Obama pig statement was intentional because the public can perceive it both ways in order to start a heated debate. Obama is a master of it!

The Democrats need to start thinking about their views of women.

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Who fights harder for women than Democrats? They have an long history of supporting civil rights and abortion rights for women. They put a woman on their presidential ticket in 1984 (24 years before Palin appeared), gave us the first female attorney general, and first female secretary of state. Now, because for the first time ever, the Republican party has thrown a bone and attached a woman to their ticket (who incidentally thinks very little of a woman's right to choose, even in the case of rape), you think they are the champion of women's rights?

Well, then I have to hand it to them. That is exactly what they want you to think. Go ahead and vote to marginalize yourselves if you want. If you can't be bothered to note that Obama belongs to the party that has actually cares about your rights, you most certainly deserve what you get.

Posted by: Joe | September 10, 2008 1:52 PM | Report abuse

McCain has not only embraced the politics of Bush/Cheyney/Rove but he has clearly gone past the limits of what is tolerable to decent, thinking Americans. He seems absolutely determined to turn this election into a circus, without any regard to what the lasting effects of these devious, deceitful side-show tactics may have on our Democracy. Shame on him and any American that supports these tactics.

Posted by: Christian | September 10, 2008 1:52 PM | Report abuse

Fascinating that the McCain campaign chose to portray the Obama team as a pack of wolves, since Palin is so blood thirsty that she enjoys cornering and shooting wolves in cold blood from helicopters. What kind of gun would Jesus shoot?

Posted by: EH | September 10, 2008 1:52 PM | Report abuse

One thing I've noticed on a lot of stories in this presidential race is how often Obama supporters insist that McCain supporters are either 'stupid' or 'sheep.' Another thing I've noticed is that the more conservative blogs tend to have real discussions of the issues and a much firmer grasp of the complexeties involved, whereas the more liberal blogs have much more viscious name-calling, and the discussions there are generally limited to witty one-liners that sound intelligent but are actually pretty vacuous.

As far as the lipstick comment, that's all par for the course in politics. No need for McCain's people to point it out. Let it hang in the air as the tasteless remark it is.

Posted by: js | September 10, 2008 1:52 PM | Report abuse

From turning Obama's celebrity against him to this latest episode of taking a seemingly innocuous comment and transforming it into a national news story, the McCain campaign is effectively using the politics of perception against Obama.

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And many of the American People are foolish enough to fall for it.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 1:52 PM | Report abuse

The last time we had a presidential campaign in which the focus was on nonsense like candidates' nice smiles and pig comments, we ended up with George W. Bush, and few would deny that our country and the world are far worse off for it; even the candidate from his own party says so. We need to lay the blame for this debacle precisely where it belongs: on the news media. And I don't mean the "liberal" news media, or the "conservative" news media; I mean the Fourth Estate, which has the immense responsibility conferred upon it by the First Amendment to tell the electorate about the policies the candidates stand for, what they can be expected to do in office, their histories for reliability and integrity, and everything else it needs to know to make intelligent, informed decisions on which rest the future of us all. Where are your front-page stories on McCain's and Obama's positions on the war in Iraq? Where are your top-of-the-news stories on their economic policies? On what they say they will do about the housing crisis? Health care? Our shambles of an education system? Iran? Russia? When you became journalists, weren't you hoping to be of some good to the world? Don't you care what kinds of leaders we end up with, and how many people live, die, or suffer as a result? Why are your headlines dominated by pig stories, willful misinterpretations, juvenile celebrity trivia, and unexamined lies?

You should be ashamed of yourselves.

Posted by: Lisa P. | September 10, 2008 1:52 PM | Report abuse

"If you've ever owned or handled pit bulls, you'll know they're extremely sensitive."

Do yew feller, Fffff, take um as, y'know, wives, like us redneck to wif pags?

Posted by: Had to be said | September 10, 2008 1:52 PM | Report abuse

"If he (Obama) cannot master conversations within his own country, how much more of a failure is he likely to be with real barriers of language translation, multicultural differences, and non-scripted, non-teleprompter occasions?"

Says it all in my opinion.

Mary

Posted by: Mary | September 10, 2008 1:52 PM | Report abuse

I experienced the lipstick-gate tape twice - once, the first time, I believed completely by first impression, that he meant the comment as a dig at Sarah. He was not speaking extemporaneously, was on topic, thinking about what he was saying and the crowd reacted just like they would to a joke with a butt.

The second time, I wasn't watching the tape, but overheard from across the room. This time I was totally convinced it was no accident. The timing gave it away. Not only did BHO have the timing down he also pretended to give himself time to think of a good phrase - which there are many that would be appropriate.

So, it is clear that BHO knew EXACTLY what he was saying. There is no denying that in those moments of hesitation we so often see, where he reviews his words, he put together a very bad joke - INTENTIONALLY.

Posted by: Mark Steven Zuelke | September 10, 2008 1:51 PM | Report abuse

Sarah, truth be told. You are a bit of a pig, with lipstick that is..

Posted by: thisworld | September 10, 2008 1:51 PM | Report abuse

bsimon -

Thank you for responding in a thoughtful manner. This is a debate we can have. I agree with you on tax/spending. You're right. We shouldn't cut taxes anymore unless we get rid of the budget deficit. Actually, this is why McCain voted against Bush tax cuts in 2001 and 2003. However, we shouldn't (as McCain has realized) let these tax cuts expire in a down economy b/c that will just slow down the economy (think 1936 when tax hikes plunged the US deeper into the Great Depression). This is why McCain wants to preserve tax cuts. The other thing to think about is the corporate tax rate. The US has the 2nd highest corporate tax rate in the industrialized world. Every once in a while, Congress gives a reprieve on the tax for one year and lowers it to a ridiculous number (something like 5%). And every time they do that, revenue from corporations skyrockets. Why does this happen? Because all of these US multinationals who have been hiding their extra cash through accounting in other, less taxed countries, bring the cash to the US. If lowering it brings extra revenue, why the heck don't we permanently lower the tax rate at least 5% to 30%? Corporations make up most of the tax revenue anyway.

Earmarks - fine...some earmarks are good, but Obama has secured over $1billion for the state of Illinois since 2005. I can't believe that all of them are worth it. And then, I ask, is this really the best use of federal dollars? Why should the federal government be giving money to build a hockey rink? This is not to say that I don't think a hockey rink is a good idea, but fund it at the state and local level.

Regarding spending on the Iraq war...fair. That is taking a huge chunk of the budget. But, the other major chunk is Medicare/Medicaid and Social Security and all Obama wants to do is tax wealthier earners (which btw, his current plan to tax households making over $250,000 actually punishes dual income earners because a couple making 150K each would have an additional $50 subject to payroll taxes as opposed to if they were individuals). Why are people so afraid of enabling individuals to manage their own social security fund? I mean, the role of the government then is to manage it. You don't let a 65 year old invest his SS in the stock market. That's stupid. But, I'd let a 25 year old do it. They invest it and lose, it's gone. People already do it with IRAs because they don't count on Social Security to be around anyway.

Anyway, thoughtful discussion...

Posted by: jsypal | September 10, 2008 1:51 PM | Report abuse

Do the numbers as this article makes no sense. 63% or about 2 in 3 do not consider personal qualities as relevant. Of the 37% that do 44% do not choose McCain, restated 20.72% of the whole would vote for McCain.
At minimum McCain already has one in five voters. SO WHAT ON EARTH NEW IS BEING STATED HERE!

Chris you need go back to a drawing board.

Posted by: ME | September 10, 2008 1:51 PM | Report abuse

"The GOP could be accused of trying to make a pig fly."

Whuhl, I ain't knewin' 'bout flyun, but if you dun kick a boar right 'bout the balls whun he ain't lookin' he shore do leap. Fffffff!

Posted by: Had to be said | September 10, 2008 1:50 PM | Report abuse

If Caribou Barbie is so offended over a common expression, how is she going to handle Al Qaeda?

If anything, McSame should be apologizing for his latest ad, mischaracterizing Senator Obama's program designed to protect kindergarten-aged children from sexual predators as "sex education for preschoolers". McBush is a liar and an adulterer, and Caribou Barbie is a pathological serial liar, a thief and a cheat. I don't want to hear any more bleating and whining from the Greedy Oil Party.

The answer to this one is that moose-mom was NOT offended.
She knew that no one was talking about her. The remark was addressed to the GOP in general whose agenda has not changed.

This fake tirade was for the audience at K-MART.

This was one more day not looking in detail at McCain's plan to ravage the American middle class, by stealing their health care plans from them and making them find new coverage at higher prices or less coverage.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 1:50 PM | Report abuse

To Paula Reed, you're missing the point, (which is not unusual for democrats). If you've ever owned or handled pit bulls, you'll know they're extremely sensitive. Just look at the cross-eyed and you quickly find yourself protecting your leg.

The democrats wail, "Ooh, ooh, we stuck our hand in a bee hive and are getting bitten!" The whiners and losers, the ones who clearly can't handle what their leader threw down yesterday, are the dems and only the dems.

Obama is soooooooooooo smart, so eager to get his (non)-message out, that this Harvard dweeb didn't realize how diverting his comment would be. On the basis of THAT alone, he's not fit to be President. Can you imagine him in an informal conversation with world leaders? If he cannot master conversations within his own country, how much more of a failure is he likely to be with real barriers of language translation, multicutlural differences, and non-scripted, non-teleprompter occasions?

McCain-Palin in '08

Posted by: Stephanie | September 10, 2008 1:50 PM | Report abuse

Had to be said >>>It is a deeeply rooted Muslim slur."

Daimn, its whun of them a-rab sayuns? Yew shure you ain't takin' a pull on the moonshine bowah?

Posted by: Had to be said | September 10, 2008 1:41 PM


I think you're right. He may be Muslim.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 1:49 PM | Report abuse

Sounds like we have a bunch of kids trying to run the country.

The GOP could be accused of trying to make a pig fly.

Posted by: Web Smith | September 10, 2008 1:48 PM | Report abuse

Politics of perception - my ar$e. The GOP can not stand on substance so resort to nasty red rover politics, same as usual. McCain is the same as bush, and he even used the same ads and strategiy as rove. Pathetic. Thos "christians" who support him but have missed the part in the Bible where Jesus warns about liars, and the father of lies, the devil.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 1:48 PM | Report abuse

Check the record! McCain used it first referring to Hillary!

NOW who is the sexist, Muslim, misogynistic, stupid old fool?

Posted by: Limey | September 10, 2008 1:48 PM | Report abuse

"You demrats fool no one. And you're not going to get anywhere near the White House. Don't you get it yet? It ain't gonna happen."

DAIMN RIGHT BOWAH. Fffff. Ain't let none uh dem rats in a white folks house. Fffff. Earl get me a some hooch, its be 'bout 11.

Posted by: Had to be said | September 10, 2008 1:47 PM | Report abuse

It is not just perception. It is sheer deception, when McCain first argues that the present mess is the fault of the Republicans, and then asks us to vote Republican.

Posted by: dunnhaupt | September 10, 2008 1:47 PM | Report abuse

Why are we talking about this? Sigh.

Posted by: Greg | September 10, 2008 1:47 PM | Report abuse

Yes, I think I could stand for four more years of the Republicans. I think I want my children's books to be censored, I think I want to up the pork-barrel spending, I think I want to continue to funnel 20 million dollars out of the country per day, yes, I think I want to see my paycheck buy less, I think I want to see bridges go to nowhere, yes, I think I want to not fund the veteran's health care when they come home, yes, I think I want to see my President stand behind big oil for four more years, I think I want to see our country's reputation in the world continue to slide. I think I will vote to continue all these policies! Yes, and I am darn proud to be a Republican!

Posted by: Kathy Boesel | September 10, 2008 1:46 PM | Report abuse

Caribou Barbie

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 1:46 PM | Report abuse


40% of the registered voters did not vote in 2004.
Tens of millions of others did not even register.
Arent those people bitter?

Who is interviewing the 40 million adults who say THEY ARE NOT PLANING TO VOTE? WHAT'S UP WITH THEM? Ever talk to those real people? I have. THEY ARE BITTER. BEYOND VOTING FOR OR AGAINST ABORTION RIGHTS OR GUN CONTROL. THEY DONT EVEN VOTE FOR PERSONAL REASONS.

The high talk about people not being bitter is just political rhetoric. 40 or 50 million people do not even participate in the charade.


Posted by: Bruce Becker | September 10, 2008 1:45 PM | Report abuse

What is similar between 2000, 2004 and 2008?

Democrats should've easily won the White House but will find a way to fugg it all over again.

Posted by: ABORT-OBAMA | September 10, 2008 1:45 PM | Report abuse

It's amazing how stupid dems are. First it's the simmering hatred of women in power, first with Clinton, now with Palin, and the personal attacks leveled at each.

Now, it's "McCain has no honor." LMAO

Indeed yes, watch the polls as we get closer to November. And contort yourselves into more rancid apoplexy as we lock down another 8 years, maybe even 12.

McCain / Palin 2008

Posted by: Roger | September 10, 2008 1:45 PM | Report abuse

THE ORIGINAL QUOTE: On Tuesday, Obama criticized McCain's policies as similar to those of President Bush, saying: "You can put lipstick on a pig. It's still a pig. You can wrap an old fish in a piece of paper called change. It's still going to stink after eight years."

Posted by: Inkfingers | September 10, 2008 1:45 PM | Report abuse

If Caribou Barbie is so offended over a common expression, how is she going to handle Al Qaeda?

If anything, McSame should be apologizing for his latest ad, mischaracterizing Senator Obama's program designed to protect kindergarten-aged children from sexual predators as "sex education for preschoolers". McBush is a liar and an adulterer, and Caribou Barbie is a pathological serial liar, a thief and a cheat. I don't want to hear any more bleating and whining from the Greedy Oil Party.

Posted by: Paula Reed | September 10, 2008 1:45 PM | Report abuse

The Obama pig statement was intentional because the public can perceive it both ways in order to start a heated debate. Obama is a master of it!

The Democrats need to start thinking about their views of women.
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Don't we have wars and econony's that need to be discussed?

Who gives a fat rats @ass what words he used and what you think he meant.

IT'S ABOUT THE ECONOMY , STUPID!!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 1:44 PM | Report abuse

"Obama is not a gentleman. In fact, it is quite clear that the liberal left is extremely misogynistic."

Whut you got to be a lib...lib...lib..ur..al to be whun of them O...O-limp-ians? Them uh Jim...nasts? Whuhl that haint right. Ffffff. Kint we grow um water melluns wif less sades?

Posted by: Had to be said | September 10, 2008 1:44 PM | Report abuse

Jim same team same tactics

same policies same failing plans for the country...

you are proof...

8 years of our country going down the tubes and people are going to try and spin this election just like 2000 and 2004...

and yes it would be absolutely stupid...to fall for that a third time.

8 sucky years and here comes McCain and Palin and you telling people the same things from 2000 and 2004...

there is a time where people say ...you know you aren't being "honest" and I am going to save my country not throw to the same team same tactics same policies as the last 8 sucky years...with no answers from your side besides ... a hypocritical and familiar call about earmarks (same thign Bush said in 2000 and 2004) and a tax policy that has shown...we aren't getting better.

Posted by: dl | September 10, 2008 1:44 PM | Report abuse

It is John McCain who is the 'pig with the lipstick'.
Sarah Palin is 'a PRIG with lipstick'.
Prig - definition, a person who displays or demands of others pointlessly precise conformity, fussiness about trivialities, or exaggerated propriety, esp. in a self-righteous or irritating manner.

It is now time for Barrack to announce a few of his cabinet choices.
I believe that Hillary Clinton would make an excellent Secretary of State.
Obama needs to sieze the moment and fill out his 'executive agenda' and present it to the people.
Hillary, as Secretary of State will help greatly to restore Obama's lead.
Now is a time for 'action' rather than 're-action'.
Obama is like Woodrow Wilson, a visionary intellectual.
John McCain, on the other hand, has no vision for America.
As such, McCain's senile rants ('sexism') should be addressed and then quickly ignored.

Fill out your 'team, Barrack and start discussing your cabinet.
The McCain camp, as a result, will be paralyzed.

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Posted by: John Charles Webb | September 10, 2008 1:44 PM | Report abuse

Yep, didn't have to wait long. In the spirit of the Colmes' of the world, "former democrat" quickly provides us an example of the "but W. does it" as the rationale of why the "higher thinking, champion of Hope, and a New Way" can do it now, too.

LOL

You demrats fool no one. And you're not going to get anywhere near the White House. Don't you get it yet? It ain't gonna happen.

Posted by: Jim | September 10, 2008 1:42 PM | Report abuse

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"Nuffsaid re McCain:
"This man wouldn't know honor if he stepped on it."

You wish, cowboy. Watch the polls and weep.


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Posted by: Jack The Ripper | September 10, 2008 1:42 PM | Report abuse

A gentleman would not have said what he said. He knew how it would come across.

I wanted Hillary, but now I certainly don't want him now. I just saw this on the news and will now vote McCain / Palin.

He's not a gentleman, and I don't want him as my President.

Posted by: JenLansingMI | September 10, 2008 1:42 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Yo Mamma | September 10, 2008 1:41 PM | Report abuse

"It is a deeeply rooted Muslim slur."

Daimn, its whun of them a-rab sayuns? Yew shure you ain't takin' a pull on the moonshine bowah?

Posted by: Had to be said | September 10, 2008 1:41 PM | Report abuse

You can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear either. Chris, why is the media going hog-wild over this? It's getting boar-ing to hear about it.

Posted by: bondjedi | September 10, 2008 1:41 PM | Report abuse

How very disheartening...

I saw the comments by Mr. Obama, and knew instantly what would happen next. I thought maybe if I just ignored the sensationalism and didn't give such garbage my attention it would go away. But of course there are far more reality TV junkies out there that can't get enough of this drivel.

The media is so predictable, because their audience is as well...

I've said it before, and I'll say it again, there really should be some kind of competency test before being granted the privilege to vote.

Perhaps if people were expected to have a firm grasp of our government and really know what each candidate represents, such re-media-l garbage would lose popularity.

Posted by: Ayne | September 10, 2008 1:41 PM | Report abuse

In re: Serious question to liberals:Why do you believe that McCain's policies are so evil?

~ I don't think that most are necessarily evil--I just find them to be anemic attempts, frittering around the edges of really big problems facing the country. This isn't the time for conservatism. Also, I liked the ideas of the " agents of intolerance" McCain much more than the current version. As for Palin--who knows what she stands for? the early info seems pretty extreme.

Still, the lipstick comment seems like a needless gaff, though it got Obama back in the headlines. There were so many better analogies for him to use. I would have said that McCain's idea of reform was a lot like tuning up your snowmobile when its about to hit a tree. Unless you change direction, all the reform in the world won't mean squat---then I'd watch for all the racially treacherous comments to roll in about Obama not knowing a thing about snowmobiles :)

Posted by: Scrapster | September 10, 2008 1:41 PM | Report abuse

Laura wrote:
Obama is not a gentleman. In fact, it is quite clear that the liberal left is extremely misogynistic.


Sweetheart, nothing in life is as simple and crystal clear as you seem to think. Every person is a vast compromise of good and bad. Just as most groups are.

You need to turn your telescope around and look through the proper end. Then you need to experience what life is really about. And see what is really going on out there.

I remember when I was your age.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 1:41 PM | Report abuse

To gm1000, that's exactly right, and nobody is fooled by Obama's lies today.

Posted by: Jim | September 10, 2008 1:40 PM | Report abuse

dl wrote,

what's the only difference between 2000, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007 and 2008?

you guessed it... lipstick...and more foreclosures."

You left one important thing out - 9/11 which made us go into war.

Posted by: Former democrat | September 10, 2008 1:40 PM | Report abuse

pigobama! don't be so disingenuous. To use a "common" expression right after Palin used the lipstick line is playing to your eager and anticipatory audience which caught the joke and laughed heartily. The guy's a lawyer, he knew exactly what he was saying and the effect he wanted to make...


Posted by: gm1000 | September 10, 2008 1:39 PM | Report abuse

BEYOND NAME CALLING

Lets consider the non-socialist health care plan of McCain.

Its main feature is that if you have an 'issue', you will taken out of your current plan. Only young healthy people will remain in the plan at the original cost.
You and your family then have to find a new coverage, somewhere, at a much higher price or with less coverage or a higher deductible.

This McCain plan is the brainstorm of the lobbyists who wrote it for McCain. the result of the plan will be BILLIONS out of the pockets of the elderly and parents with children with existing issues.

Posted by: Bruce Becker | September 10, 2008 1:39 PM | Report abuse

Laura wrote:
Obama is not a gentleman. In fact, it is quite clear that the liberal left is extremely misogynistic.
____
Sunshine wrote:
How come it is OK with you that a woman running for VP calls some women pit bulls, but a reference made about John McCain's economic policy (that is the lipstick on the pig) is misogynistic?

You are not logical.
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Dear Little Sunshine:

It is quite obvious you have never been a hockey mom!

The Obama pig statement was intentional because the public can perceive it both ways in order to start a heated debate. Obama is a master of it!

The Democrats need to start thinking about their views of women.

Posted by: MM | September 10, 2008 1:39 PM | Report abuse

"Only a pig calls a woman a pig.

Who pig suie."

BOWAH, best be karfull who yew callin' a pag. Lots of us redneck kin say thay call a pig a womun. Don't make me whoop yah bowah. Did I menchun yew got a purdy mouf. Fffff, darn seeds.

Posted by: Had to be said | September 10, 2008 1:39 PM | Report abuse

THE ORIGINAL QUOTE: On Tuesday, Obama criticized McCain's policies as similar to those of President Bush, saying: "You can put lipstick on a pig. It's still a pig. You can wrap an old fish in a piece of paper called change. It's still going to stink after eight years."

Posted by: Inkfingers | September 10, 2008 1:39 PM | Report abuse

Case in point: the recent post by "former democrat."

LOL

Posted by: Jim | September 10, 2008 1:39 PM | Report abuse

Mr. Cillizza,

Perception would not matter as much if the members of the media would do their jobs.

Report the facts. Call an "untruth" a LIE. Ask tough questions and expect answers. Last, but not least, stop regurgitating campaign talking points as if it were the gospel.

Do your job and let the voters decide.

Thank you.

Posted by: dnbraggs | September 10, 2008 1:38 PM | Report abuse

OBAMA INJECTS MUSLIM THEMED SLUR "LIPSTICK ON A PIG"

Obama's lipstick on a pig comment--documented on his teleprompter-- is much more than just a sexist slur.

It is a deeeply rooted Muslim slur.

Obama was indoctinated in Muslim theology from birth. His Mother twice married Muslim men, voluntarily embracing their worldview.

Obama was further indoctrinated in Muslim schools.

And ask yourself, If schools can't indoctrinate children with religion, why does the US prohibit religion in our schools?

Obama admitted in a freudian slip on ABC Sunday his "Muslim faith", which the "neutral journalist" quickly correct FOR Obama.

Obama says he is a Christian, but denies he ever listened to his Pastor's sermons etc....

So Gov. Palin is a fundamentalist Christian who Obama, with a strong Muslim indoctrination, compares to a pig--highly disdained in Muslim theology.

Posted by: JaxMax | September 10, 2008 1:38 PM | Report abuse

"It seems hard -- if not impossible -- to believe that Obama intended to equate Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin and a pig."
__________________________________________
Really
Then why did Obama attend a get together and lend support to Daily Kos which is nothing but a group of hate mongering trash talkers.

Posted by: Mike | September 10, 2008 1:38 PM | Report abuse

dl,

Gore. Kerry. Remember all that talk of how much more intelligent Kerry was. But he would never release his Yale grades, the same school W. attended. Just couldn't get them out of him. Surprise! Turned out, the loser had worse grades in Yale.

The problem with losers like you, dl, is that you just don't get it. And when you're called on it, like Colmes all you can do is point to alleged failings of the other side OR change the topic.

No one is fooled by your tactics.

Posted by: Jim | September 10, 2008 1:38 PM | Report abuse

McCain and his camp are simply despicable. This man wouldn't know honor if he stepped on it. It's nauseating to see what he's become and what he's done to this election cycle.

Posted by: Nuffsaid | September 10, 2008 1:37 PM | Report abuse

Annonymous worte,

".....Obama chose that one, and refuses to admit his error."

The day Obama admits that he was wrong would be the day Bush would do it too. Obama is so much Bush when it comes to that. Why would you think it took so long for him to denounce Rev. Wright after attending his church for 20 some yrs and not hearing his fiery and racial sermons? May be he and his wife fell asleep during the sermons for 20 some years and did not hear them. What does Obama think? "We are stupid?????"

Posted by: Former democrat | September 10, 2008 1:37 PM | Report abuse

what's the only difference between 2000, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007 and 2008?

you guessed it... lipstick...and more foreclosures.


Posted by: dl | September 10, 2008 1:37 PM | Report abuse

Obama didn't call Palin a pig but I will. Not because she is a woman but because of her porkbarrel spending projects! She hired a lobbyist to bring home earmarks!

Posted by: Matt | September 10, 2008 1:37 PM | Report abuse

If you watch the entire segment, it's pretty clear whom Obama was referring to as the "pig" and "the old fish."

Wishing it weren't so, Chris, doesn't make it not so.

Posted by: info | September 10, 2008 1:37 PM | Report abuse

Call it what you will...I think she's a pig.

Posted by: janicekautz@yahoo.com | September 10, 2008 1:37 PM | Report abuse

"Gina" must think the American people are stupid! For her to propose that Obama is misleading the country on the critical issues facing us while McCain is, supposedly, dealing with them is pure hokum.

Obama and his camp have proven time and time again that they're looking out for the average Joe, not the rich, privileged neocon. That's why they have solutions. All McCain keeps doing is pointing to his military service.

The GOP are a bunch of political shape-shifters. When the truth assails them, they claim they're any kind of victim you can imagine and go for sympathy. When you try to make nice with them, they turn into fire-breathing dragons. They harangue the media when the media report the truth about the opposition, particularly when the opposition is making the right decisions.

The media wouldn't take a national TV ad spot claiming the earth is flat, so why should they give time to liars like the GOP ... and Gina?

Posted by: wpreader2007 | September 10, 2008 1:36 PM | Report abuse

As Obama said, "Spare me the phony outrage."

There they go again, Republicans gleefully playing the gender card, trying to create smokescreens and diversions by deliberately misconstruing a common expression that aptly expresses the substantive point Obama was making about McCain's cosmetic repackaging of his support for 8 years of failed Bush policies as "change." Anything to change the subject from the real issues in this campaign. McCain has nothing to offer on the economy, nothing to offer on education, nothing of substance on energy, nothing new on eight disastrous years of foreign policy. So what do you do when you have nothing to say on substantive issues? Try to turn the election into a contest of insults, name-calling, and faux outrage.

Shame on you, John McCain. You were once better than this.

Posted by: Brad K | September 10, 2008 1:36 PM | Report abuse

Why do you believe that McCain's policies are so evil?

Lot of stuff McCain wants maybe a good thing.

I am concerned the Republicans will further dismantle the EPA which is bad INMO.

But the deal breaker is his promise to appoint a conservative Supreme Court justice. I am one who believes strict constructionist justices are bad for the country.

There fore I am voting against McCain so that Democrats will pick the next Supreme Court justice.

Just a difference in politics is all.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 1:36 PM | Report abuse

Uuh, hello? If Obama sent 30 lawyers to Alaska, that is what McCain should have done...it's called "vetting."

McCain is now sending out the pack of people telling Palin "truths" which will be a small pack and a short conversation.

Mob money and politics=John McCain
Scandals and abuse of power=Sarah Palin

Yes folks we've got a good team that we will tromp come the 4th, sit back and watch.

Posted by: Karen P | September 10, 2008 1:36 PM | Report abuse

jim

competence...

so the policies of the last 8 years were "competent"
okay what competent plans that mcCain and palin are talking about

competent...they are exactly the same.

as the country drives over a cliff.


stupid is as stupid does in 2000, 2004 and now we see clearly from you in 2008.

Posted by: dl | September 10, 2008 1:34 PM | Report abuse

To Marcos @ 1:23, spot on.

Posted by: Jim | September 10, 2008 1:34 PM | Report abuse

Laura wrote:
Obama is not a gentleman. In fact, it is quite clear that the liberal left is extremely misogynistic.
____
How come it is OK with you that a woman running for VP calls some women pit bulls, but a reference made about John McCain's economic policy (that is the lipstick on the pig) is misogynistic?

You are not logical.

Posted by: Sunshine | September 10, 2008 1:34 PM | Report abuse

I think it is really interesting that the Republicans want to characterize Palin as a victim. Given their total lack of concern about the problem of sexism when it comes to policy, I'm surprised they are having such an easy time pronouncing the word "sexism." Especially with a straight face.

Posted by: Matt | September 10, 2008 1:34 PM | Report abuse

Somewhere Karl Rove is gleefully texting on his Blackberry,

"see, I told you this pig thing would work, just like the swift boat thing we pulled..."

"people don't give a damn who has the smartest ideas, or even the most experience. give 'em a dose of slime, Karl-style and they'll eat it up with a spoon."

But Karl doesn't want you to know about this:
http://link.brightcove.com/services/link/bcpid271557392/bctid1784628752

McCain said the same thing this year in a speech referencing Hillary, as have other Republicans in recent memory. So it's just more swift boating after all. They just think the American voter is so incredibly stupid. And they are proving it every day.

Don't let the slime win again.

Posted by: D Miner | September 10, 2008 1:34 PM | Report abuse

Text:
"Lipstick on a pig" means the policies of the Bush administration are alive and well in the McCain-Palin campaign. It is just more of the same called something different.

"8 year old fish in Change newspaper" means that the Republicans are rebranding their candidate to try and take on Change.

Subtext:
"Lipstick on a pig" means Palin is not some kind of fighter. She really is just a domesticated Republican like the tamed Maverick she runs with who is really, now, a pack mule. It is just more of the same called something different.

"8 year old fish in Change newspaper" means that Sarah Barracuda is just a Republicans who believes in the same old policies that got us into this mess as a country. She also believe that the Consitution can be circumvented. Just take them books on Evolution off the shelves.

Posted by: mbshults | September 10, 2008 1:33 PM | Report abuse

Well, I guess you can't teach an old pig new tricks. The only difference between a hockey mom and a wild boar is lipstick. I love it. Republicans: squirm away.

Posted by: Tropunlim | September 10, 2008 1:33 PM | Report abuse

a new word has come into the English language.

PALIN

1. a verb: to lie brazenly, even after the subject you are lying about has been proved to be a lie by video evidence.
See 2006 video of Palin campaigning for office of Gov of Alaska speaking in glowing terms about bridge she now claims to have been against.

Posted by: Bruce Becker | September 10, 2008 1:33 PM | Report abuse

rnc talks about "values" in 2000

the RNC talks about "values" in 2004

the RNC and Mccain/Palin talks about values in 2008

how those values shaped up for ya this last 8 years?

Posted by: dl | September 10, 2008 1:32 PM | Report abuse

To anon @ 1:29, you're right. It goes way beyond the "perception" and the "distraction" issues that the Leftists are trying to, again, divert our attention now that they've "stuck and run."

The issues goes squarely to Obama's alleged competence and experience in handling adhoc conversations. Can you imagine this joke mouthing off in a similar way on the international stage? It's clear he's either too inexperienced to think on his feet, mean spirited at heart, or simply stupid. At any rate, it's not a good fit for the Presidency.

Posted by: Jim | September 10, 2008 1:32 PM | Report abuse

giving people the choice for healthcare

Code words. If everyone had all the money they needed then having their own choice would be fine. A large percentage of the population literally don't have the money for ANY kind of health care. Government managed health care is a safety net for those people.

If you have lots of money. And don't want any of your tax dollars spent on poor people. And you can afford any and all health care you choose, then these words are code words.

Translated means "we rich don't want to spend money on anyone else therefore, we should all individually have a choice."

Same as school vouchers. Rich people take the vouchers and their kids and abandoned public education. Public education goes further down hill. Poor people would need vouchers 5 times as large to make the transition. And can't. So the small vouchers only help the rich. Almost like a subsidy for them isn't it?

More code words. Individual freedom from government control equates to if you are well off you can afford to do what you want. If you're poor, you have no choice. You're poor!

Rich people are Republicans and want to hoarde all their money. Democrats are willing to share.

No big deal, just pick which side of the fence you are on and let's get on with it.

Posted by: Humpty Dumpty | September 10, 2008 1:32 PM | Report abuse


Serious question to liberals:

Why do you believe that McCain's policies are so evil?

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jspyal,

I actually *like* a lot of McCain's policies. I agree with cutting taxes when it's fiscally responsible to do so, although I prefer to see the middle class get the benefits before the extremely wealthy. I think he's absolutely on the right side of pork-barrel spending. I think he's a little more absolute about it than I am, but I admire his position nonetheless, because this spending does need to be reigned in.

I used to agree with him in social issues as well. In fact, in 2000, I really wanted to give my vote to this guy. But he was smeared and scuttled by Bush and Rove, and we ended up with a monumental failure of a government that both Republicans and Democrats alike can agree to hate (so maybe Bush did unite us in a way).

I think the royal screwing he got in 2000 changed McCain, though. Over the last four years, as he started to eye his '08 presidential bid, McCain has turned sharply to the right on social issues. Even so, in 2007, I remember still feeling like no matter who won the election in '08, I would be okay with them.

In the last month, my attitude toward McCain has changed a lot -- and not because I am any further apart from him on most of his policies. It's because I am beginning to see a complete change in his character. His bringing Palin onto the ticket was complete abandonment of moderates and of his own ideals. She is no more fiscally conservative than any other politician. She is far to the right on religion in politics, schools, and science, and she has extreme views on abortion. She is a complete 180 from his attitudes on the environment with her support of ANWR drilling, the treatment of wildlife in her state, and climate change.

So why did McCain pick her, knowing she was so far apart from him on core ideology? He did it to win the election. He sold out his principles to win, and it disgusts me. Moreover, the kind of tripe he's allowing his campaign to spew is far, far below his character. To think that he himself is running a Rove campaign after what happened to him in 2000 is positively disappointing.

I am comfortable with Obama's policies, and I am comfortable with his position on social issues. I would still like him to be moderate and to bring conservatives into his administration, because I think that's what we all need most. He is a man that behaves respectfully and treats the electorate with respect. I desperately wanted McCain to do the same, and maybe the biggest reason I'm angry at him is not so much because I disagree with his policies, but because I feel like he was so much better than this. If it had been any other off-the-shelf Republican candidate, I would not have cared nearly as much.

Posted by: Joe | September 10, 2008 1:32 PM | Report abuse

This is just too much. There are far too many substantive issues facing the American people in this election to focus on this level of idiocy. And all of the media, including you, Mr. Cillizza, who keep these kinds of stories going by continuing to write about them, are complicit in this charade. If you don't agree with Senator Obama's policies, don't vote for him - you don't need to accuse him falsely of things he didn't do or say. What's getting lost here in all of the spin is that Senator McCain and his supporters are trying to divert attention from the real issues, because they have no new plans to present to the American public to address the current crises we face. It's true that they're having some success focusing on personalities since Governor Palin joined the ticket, but that success is being achieved at the expense of the American voters. We deserve better.

Posted by: Jen | September 10, 2008 1:31 PM | Report abuse

Of course Obama didn't mean to call Palin a pig. Read the transcript of the speech, in context. He was talking about McCain!

Posted by: corinthian | September 10, 2008 1:31 PM | Report abuse

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Had to be said:
"He just called a woman...a Pig."

Obama has lost Wright as his adviser.
Hah ha ha ha

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Posted by: Jack The Ripper | September 10, 2008 1:30 PM | Report abuse

James L responds
"Except Obama plans on shifting a sizable number of those troops to Afghanistan which will negate much of the savings that he is promising. By taxing the rich, he will make it harder on businesses to get the job market back up."

I don't have the numbers in front of me, but suspect he does not intend to move 140,000 troops from Iraq to Afghanistan. Yes, he's said he'd send more there than are there now. How many? I don't know.

Your economic characterization implies that only the rich create jobs & only when tax rates are extremely low. Changing a tax rate from 30% to a pre-Reagan 60% would likely, yes, put the brakes on new investment. But what about the post-Reagan 40%? Both Bush 41 & Clinton raised taxes after Reagan - and the economy in the 90s boomed. Clearly the tax code did not keep that from happening. Without extreme spending cuts - which McCAin has certainly failed to offer thus far - what is the suggestion for continuing to cut taxes when the deficit is one of the factors driving our economy into the ditch?

Posted by: bsimon | September 10, 2008 1:30 PM | Report abuse

had to be said

Obama was talking about economics...mccain was talking about Hillary's healthcare.

and

Mccain and Palin are saying to the middle class

"look look middle class look at this that we showed you in 2000 and 2004... that's it...stay bent over and keep your pants at yuor knees"

throw these status quo morons out on their a$$es.

Posted by: dl | September 10, 2008 1:30 PM | Report abuse

When did Gov. Palin (the social conservative with a preggy unwed daughter and environmentialist who wants God to help us drill) buy the word lipstick? Did she buy the rights to it on ebay when she sold the gubernatorial jet? If common axioms can't be spoken in politics, then a new day in American campaigning is on its way. Unfortunately, we are in the era of cute VP nominees