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Debate Finale

To close the debate the candidates were asked to say something they like and dislike about the candidate to their left.

Dodd on Edwards:"I like John Edwards. I love his wife Elizabeth. I have nothing to say negative."

Edwards on Clinton: "I admire what Sen. Clinton did for America. I'm not sure about that coat." (WHAT?)


Democratic presidential hopefuls, from left, former Sen. John Edwards, D-N.C.; Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y.; Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill.; stand together before the start of the debate. (AP Photo/Charles Dharapak)

Clinton on Obama: "I admire and like very much Barack as I do all of the candidates here."

Obama on Richardson: "I like the fact Bill Richardson has devoted his life to public service. I don't like the the fact he likes either the Red Sox or the Yankees but doesn't like the White Sox."

Richardson on Biden: "We disagree on Iraq very strongly. This man has devoted his whole life to public service."

Biden on Kucinich: "Dennis and I have been friends for 20 years. The thing I like best about you is your wife."

-- Chris Cillizza

By Eric Pianin  |  July 23, 2007; 9:15 PM ET
Categories:  Eye on 2008  
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Posted by: 0wp54fq3bg | August 24, 2007 5:35 AM | Report abuse

If the Cornpone Narcissus had really wanted a laugh, he might have commented on her pants' broad beam (like the husband's).

Posted by: Philip V. Riggio | July 24, 2007 6:33 PM | Report abuse

I really enjoyed the format of the debate. I think the big winners were really those who submitted questions. This was probably as close to a direct democracy where debates are concerned. The problem still exists in that CNN picked the questions. I would like to see a way for the most popular by ordinary citizens to pick the questions. Now I will submit some of my observations.
The question whether Obama is Black enough: With the Secret Service watching over Obama at Tax Payer Expense, when did Sen. Obama try to hail a cab in New York? I would like the date and time on that one.

The Statement by Gov. Richardson that, we need to help Africa and Areas that are not part of our own defense and need. I am wondering if Gov Richardson has noticed that under a Republican president aid to Africa has quadrupled from President Clinton's administration. Further AIDS funding is now at 15 Billion Dollars, substantially Higher then the Democrats who talk about it but haven't done much about it. Again, Gov. Richardson stated that Republicans suppress minority voters. Tell me where and when. The only evidence of minority voter fraud is the organization that where caught registering multiple voters as democrats that didn't exist.

Sen. Clinton stated that she won't take an increase in pay until the minimum wage is increased. Sen. Clinton can now take that pay increase as the minimum wage was increased TODAY.

Sen. Biden stated that it would take a full year to get our troops out of IRAQ. How does he know? The Pentagon doesn't even have a good estimate of the time frame to remove troops from Iraq.

Then the statement that under a Dodd administration stems cell research will be legal. Sen. Dodd knows that private stem cell research is legal and is actively being pursued by private funding
I am hopeful that during the Republican debate, the candidates are more accurate in their answers to the questions. I would like to give Kudos to YouTube, CNN, The Citadel, and the Democratic Party of South Carolina for putting on a class act debate.
Albert N. Milliron, Politisite.com

Posted by: Albert N. Milliron | July 24, 2007 5:27 PM | Report abuse

The CLEAR "winners" of last night's supposed exercise in participatory democracy were...CNN and YouTube! Whoever came up with the concept has a GREAT future on Madison Avenue in the art of hucksterism. I KNOW...I worked there for TOO many years. They've flogged the hell out of it for weeks and now we are being bombarded by a nauseatingly unremitting "analysis" of this "new" type of "debate"...and it will continue unceasingly on the "most trusted name in news" until the Republican "other shoe" drops on September 17th.

Who, among the candidates, won the debate? Probably Hillary Clinton and/or John Edwards. Obama has GOT to stop speaking in fuzzy visionary generalities and actually offer up concrete specifics. Clinton was sharp and well-prepared on EVERY aspect of every question...and Edwards was BY FAR the boldest AND most visionary WITH specifics of anyone on the stage.

The best lines of the night were both by Hillary...her comment about the 28 year cycle possibility of Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton to the effect that she thought the cycle WAS broken in 2000 (she might have added 2004 as well) was the funniest line of the night; while her reply to the person asking if she would meet with the various heads of state antagonistic to the United States...Castro, Chavez, Li'l Kim. et al. was a sharp and concise "NO...not until I could be certain I was not being used for propaganda purposes" was the closest thing to a knockout punch that ANYONE delivered...especially and tellingly after Obama had just jumped in with a "yes", demonstrating the lack of political savvy on his part! This was further damning when his people tried to offer up the lame explanation that he didn't actually mean that HE would personally meet with these antagonsts...sort of a "I was against the war before I was for it" moment!

Posted by: PETE TENNEY | July 24, 2007 1:53 PM | Report abuse

The good thing about the format is that it gave all the squirrelly ideosyncrats a shot at asking/forcing questions on the candidates. The bad thing about the format is that it gave CNN screening rights to the 3000 entries. But how are you going to survey the opinions of 300,000,000 squirrelly ideosyncrats unless you do something similar? A call in show?? We are fifty separate (mini)jurisdictions, with 50 separate and distinct takes on everything. Probably more when you sub-divide the regions within the States. Does anyone think that the California dudes would have the same take as Murfeesboro Tennessee? The format will be refined and tuned up in the future. It's the candidates who have to adapt to it... I wonder how the Repubs will fare on September 17th?????????????

Posted by: L.Sterlilng | July 24, 2007 1:07 PM | Report abuse

Great Dracula, dont vote - just dont complain when Giuliani and invades Canada (or any other nation for that matter).

Posted by: 761-091 | July 24, 2007 12:38 PM | Report abuse

To anyone who thinks his or her vote doesn't count, just look at the 2000 election.

Gore won the popular vote and would have trounced Bush with the electoral vote if all those well intentioned souls who voted for Nader had voted for Gore (even as the most effective anti-Bush vote, whether they liked Gore or not).

And before you say "Oh, Gore or Bush, it makes no difference, none of them listen." let me say that Gore would have been 10 times the President that Bush has been, without even trying. Good grief, Bush and Cheney have been a disaster for our country. An unmitigated disaster! We wouldn't be stuck in Iraq, for one (and about a zillion other things would be better, too), had Gore won in 2000.

Your vote does count. Hell yes!

Posted by: Peter | July 24, 2007 12:13 PM | Report abuse

"hell hath no fury like a woman scorned".
Hillary Clinton is a woman scorned by the man she "Loves". Not once, not ten, but 100 times scorned.
Don't you all see the fury there, just waiting to burst through?
And it will; all she is doing right now is waiting for the moment when she has the real power she has always craved.
If she is elected (which heaven forfend!) you will all see the real Hillary!
And then all Men, particularly men, will be her victims.

Posted by: elixelx | July 24, 2007 11:59 AM | Report abuse

When I was 20 I was down with Dracula and his/her disenchantment. Haven't we all been there? But I think the trick is to not say, "I'll register my distaste by not voting," but start finding ways to communicate your issues to the power brokers. That's what Moveon does, that's what Rush does...if they can, why can't you Dracula? Why can't I?

Posted by: Kevin | July 24, 2007 11:40 AM | Report abuse

I think this whole BoobTube debate idea is laughable, because I will hand out 20 spots if half of those idiots who sent in videos go to the polls.

You know who doesn't vote? People with Myspace pages who spend too much time on the internets. Know who does? Old people.

As for Dracula's pessimism - keep on watching tv there dog, that's what your politicians want. One thing no politician in either party will admit is that they WANT and NEED low voter turnout.

Why else do you think they moved up the primary calendar? This whole thing will be over by March, which means month after month of both parties beating us over the head with their candidates.

Result? Voter turnout goes down and the only people who show up are the hardcore party supporters - keeps all those pesky Independent voters safely on their couches watching their dumb television shows.

V

Posted by: Vincente | July 24, 2007 11:14 AM | Report abuse

In form, I think Clinton was a clear winner, followed by Edwards and then Obama. I thought the format was terrible and contributed to the dumbing down of discourse in America.

How do YOU feel about the debate and the question format used last night? Do YOU think YouTube added anything significant to the process? Vote for your issues on http://www.youpolls.com/details.asp?pid=218

Make your voice heard. You can vote on polls on the topic of importance to you, and if it's not there, you can sign up and create a poll in less than a minute (literally).

It's new, it's easy and it's cool...and above all, it's good for the public debate.


http://www.youpolls.com . Check it out.


Posted by: PollM | July 24, 2007 9:10 AM | Report abuse

Joe Biden came across as the most confident candidate, he was sharp and articulate and avoided alot of the candidates "spin". You can see the Clinton is going the presidency. She is very calculating and aware almost like a chess champion.

Posted by: nels | July 24, 2007 8:08 AM | Report abuse

My God! For all of you who are taking offense to Edwards' JOKE about Clinton's jacket - remember that it is just a JOKE. People really need to lighten up.

I thought Edwards and Clinton did well tonight. I don't like Obama's stuttering and it makes me not be able to listen to his answers. It was a good night for Democrats and I look forward to other similar good nights for the Democrats, especially Election Night 2008 ;)

Posted by: Bryce | July 24, 2007 2:34 AM | Report abuse

KS, I am sorry, I put your name in by mistake. I was watching to new show "Saving Grace" on TNT. lol

I understand what you are trying to say KS, but as a citizen/Democrat, I have lost faith in all politicians on a local, state, and federal level. My voting or not voting will not make a difference. This elitist politicians are so out of touch with the ordinary citizens. If Obama or Clinton were elected to office, do you think, they are going to come to me and ask, how do I feel on issues like illegal immigration, healthcare, and public safety? I can tell you, they don't care about me as a human being. All these politicians are millionaires.

Posted by: Dracula | July 23, 2007 11:06 PM | Report abuse

I am sorry KS, I put you name in by mistake, I was watching "Saving Grace" on TNT. lol


I understand what you are trying to say KS, but as a citizen/Democrat, I have lost faith in all politicians on a local, state, and federal level. My voting or not voting will not make a difference. This elitist politicians are so out of touch with the ordinary citizens. If Obama or Clinton were elected to office, do you think, they are going to come to me and ask, how do I feel on issues like illegal immigration, healthcare, and public safety? I can tell you, they don't care about me as a human being. All these politicians are millionaires.

Posted by: Dracula | July 23, 2007 11:04 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, but if you honestly think a president could govern effectively while also listening to EVERY American's concerns about this country on every issue, then you are obviously well-versed on how to run a government. At least nowadays politicians take questions from SOME average Americans like you and me.

That being said, I think more and more that Hillary is distinguishing herself as the most measured and presidential of the bunch. Had you asked me 6 months ago, I would have said I would never vote for Hillary in the general election. The more I listen, the more I am considering supporting her in the primary.

Posted by: AdamK | July 23, 2007 10:54 PM | Report abuse

I understand what you are trying to say, but as a citizen/Democrat, I have lost faith in all politicians on a local, state, and federal level. My voting or not voting will not make a difference. This elitist politicians are so out of touch with the ordinary citizens. If Obama or Clinton were elected to office, do you think, they are going to come to me and ask, how do I feel on issues like illegal immigration, healthcare, and public safety? I can tell you, they don't care about me as a human being. All these politicians are millionaires.

Posted by: KS | July 23, 2007 10:48 PM | Report abuse

I think that the problem of not voting is that you still don't make a difference. You may not like the candidates and feel that they are less than honest, but one of them (Dem or Rep) will be the president--whether you vote or not. Rather, the better option is to analyze the strengths and weaknesses of the candidate and cast a vote.

Posted by: KS | July 23, 2007 10:31 PM | Report abuse

While all the other candidates' comments about the others were sincere, Hillary's to Obama was shallow.

Clinton on Obama: "I admire and like very much Barack as I do all of the candidates here." What kind of compliment is that?

On the other hand, Obama said to Hillary: "I actually like Hillary's jacket"

Posted by: Mickey | July 23, 2007 10:25 PM | Report abuse

Edwards comment on Hillary was a cheap shot, as were his wifes comments afterward. Hillary was extremely impressive. She's clearly the best person for the job. As for the "girl" issue, she has more balls in her pinky than Bush and Cheney have in their whole body. She's got the best parts of Margret Thatcher and "M" from James bond. Nobody in their right mind would doubt her toughness in a fight, but she's got the wisdom and maturity to avoid getting into a military situation in the first place. Damm, I wish we didn't have to wait until Jan 2009!!!

Posted by: WeMakeOurFuture | July 23, 2007 10:13 PM | Report abuse

am3386 how am I a part of the problem? These politicians tell lies, and we don't see them until they want our vote. They don't give a dam about my issues or concerns.

Posted by: Dracula | July 23, 2007 10:01 PM | Report abuse

"I have been a registered Democrat all my life, but I am sick of both parties. I think, I will join the majority of U.S. citizens in 2008, I will not vote."

Then you're part of the problem.

Posted by: am3386 | July 23, 2007 9:55 PM | Report abuse

I didn't watch the debate. I watched Kyle XY on the Family Channel. I am tired of listening to lying politicians. I have been a registered Democrat all my life, but I am sick of both parties. I think, I will join the majority of U.S. citizens in 2008, I will not vote. Millions of citizens in the United States don't vote, because they have lost hope and faith in these lying politicians.

Posted by: Dracula | July 23, 2007 9:39 PM | Report abuse

I wasn't a huge Edwards fan but liked some of his messages, but I am now firmly NOT a fan after the coat comment. I can't help shake the feeling that he is being subtly sexist and his campaign in general is attacking the woman of the group and not because she is killing them in the polls, but because it's easy to 'hit' a girl. Too bad and not helping his cause!!

Posted by: Tam | July 23, 2007 9:32 PM | Report abuse

I agree with GreatCandidates. I mean, with Republicans it is basically a contest to see who hates homosexuals and abortions and terrorists the most

Posted by: Anonymous | July 23, 2007 9:28 PM | Report abuse

GREAT question. Pretty illuminative that no one REALLY answered it. Get a clue: these people are not listening to us.

Posted by: RL | July 23, 2007 9:27 PM | Report abuse

All the Democratic candidates are great. The contrast between them and the Republican field is like day and night. Hillary is clearly the best of the best.
Jan 2009 can't come soon enough!!!

Posted by: GreatCandidates | July 23, 2007 9:18 PM | Report abuse

I am a Kucinich supporter, and I still think Cooper got the best line of the night.

Kucinich: Well, I noticed that there is anybody standing to the left of me...
Cooper: Well, it would be tough to find one

Posted by: D | July 23, 2007 9:18 PM | Report abuse

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