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DNC Rules Committee Showdown Begins

INSIDE THE RULES AND BYLAWS COMMITTEE MEETING -- The Fix has a front row seat (literally) for the proceedings of the most anticpated meeting of the Democratic National Committee's Rules and Bylaws committee in, well, ever.

To get here, The Fix navigated a sea of demonstrators chanting "count every vote" with signs that blared that same message. The crowd, while boisterous was not huge, as they gathered outside the Marriott Wardman Park hotel in northwest Washington.

One woman held a "count my vote or count me out" sign -- a potentially ominous sign for the members of the Rules and Bylaws committee charged today with finding an acceptable solution to seating delegates from two states -- Michigan and Florida -- which saw their delegates stripped by the DNC after moving their primaries too far forward in the primary season.

We'll do our best to bring you updated coverage throughout the day -- balky wireless network be damned!

Stay tuned.

--Chris Cillizza

By Eric Pianin  |  May 31, 2008; 9:21 AM ET
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I was very outraged by the committees decision Sat. They most definetly cheated Hillary Clinton, and above all cheated the Flordia and Michgan votes out of their votes. You should have let them revote.

I also expect every degelate to vote by the way of the voting people that is their job and they are suppose to honor that commitment. The American people will be watching who will be honest with their vote and will remember it the next time they are running for a position, in the governement.

Posted by: sandra | June 3, 2008 10:37 AM | Report abuse

Gore, Kerry, Edwards were they their first victims. Please DNC let Karl Rove victimize Mr.(S..Hussein O(ba/sa)ma in November.

Posted by: aristotle | May 31, 2008 3:54 PM | Report abuse

I am a Florida resident and voter.
I, as an individual voter,I did not have any say as to when the primary would take place. Our Republican Governor, and the
Republican majority in our House, set the date of our primary. In the DNC's ruling they told me I have no voice,period. I could either not vote at all, or vote and not be counted. Big Choice. If my vote is not counted I may leave the Party and join the Independents.

Posted by: Donalie M. Benyak | May 31, 2008 2:50 PM | Report abuse

"The crowd, while boisterous was not huge...."

Thanks for being there and for relaying to us, Chris. For every person on the scene seeking to press RBC members and impress superdelegates, there are countless others who are listening quietly from a distance with the hope and expectation that this committee will honor the process democratically agreed upon and protect its own and the DNC's integrity.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 31, 2008 11:42 AM | Report abuse

The other huge lie being spouted = cutting delegates in half cuts votes in half.

Hello - delegates are NOT AWARDED PROPORTIONAL to the number of Democrats in a state!

NONE of the states have one person = one vote for the PRIMARY. NOTE.

The states don't even have the same % of Democrats to delegates.

This is another totally BOGUS measure, perpetuated as a big lie by the Clinton campaign.

And the lazy media fails to debunk it.

Posted by: BlueDem | May 31, 2008 11:15 AM | Report abuse

I have never heard one reporter, print, on-line, or TV, -- including Chris -- note that there is no Constitutional right to vote in a PRIMARY! Doesn't anyone get that?

The media is to blame for allowing the Clinton campaign to spin this huge lie to MI and FL and stir up false trouble.

There is no Constitutional right to vote in a PRIMARY.

Posted by: BlueDem | May 31, 2008 11:06 AM | Report abuse

If Florida's delegates count for half, Florida Democratic voters will console themselves because the same thing happened to the Florida Republican delegates and you don't hear them whining. It will be fine.

Posted by: sickofspam | May 31, 2008 11:02 AM | Report abuse

People keep forgetting - if Hillary succeeds in busting the rules for MI and FL - she still has to go back to NH and Iowa, and they are going to be pissed at Hillary for helping MI and FL.

Has she thought about how she's going to win NH and Iowa after she has basically stabbed them in the back?

Posted by: BlueDem | May 31, 2008 11:01 AM | Report abuse

Hillary should apologize to the Democratic party for her outrageous, selfish and nasty behavior.

Posted by: BlueDem | May 31, 2008 10:58 AM | Report abuse

In the final analysis we now understand that all the Hillary Clinton haters rushed to vote for Barack Obama as a way to express their "anybody, but Hillary sentiment". Their vote was driven by emotion and Barack could had been "anybody".

As the Hillary-haters got to know the "real" Barack Hussein and the endless list of his close family and friends that share a pattern of hate for America and the desire to overthrow the american values and lifestyle as we know it; they now find themselves in a very difficult situation as they realized that their vote has brought close to american presidency, an extremist supremacist group of individuals lead by Barack Hussein Obama.

In the final analysis, americans that love our country have only one choice if Barack gets the democratic nomination:
They can choose not to vote and sit back at home or...they vote for John McCain, a patriot american that loves America and risked his life to preserve democracy.

In the final analysis, we know that Barack Hussein Obama is unelectable!

Posted by: Manolete | May 31, 2008 10:56 AM | Report abuse

What about the votes of all of the people in Michigan and Florida who stayed home on election day because they were told that the election wouldn't count? Wouldn't they be disenfranchised if the votes were counted?

There's ample evidence that turnout in Michigan and Florida was much lower than it should have been this year.

See here:

Posted by: Mark | May 31, 2008 10:51 AM | Report abuse

so some may not vote for Obama, big surprise.

I would wager that he will still win. Its plainly not a good year for republicans.

Posted by: pvogel88 | May 31, 2008 10:48 AM | Report abuse

The Clinton campaign argues that if the delegates from these non-sanctioned primaries are not seated hundreds of thousand of voters in Florida and Michigan will be disenfranchised.

What doesn't get mentioned, however, is this: it was widely reported and understood in both Florida and Michigan that the results of these primaries would not be counted. And based on that knowledge, large numbers of voters in both states simply didn't participate.

If the DNC were now to turn around and decide to make these contests count after all, these non-participating voters would be disenfranchised no less than the people who did turn out would be if the DNC sticks to the rules and doesn't seat any of the delegates. The simple fact is that large numbers of people, acting on accurate knowledge and in good faith, decided that there wasn't a real primary being held in their state on the day in question and on that basis decided not to participate.

Shame on HRC for crying foul now. So playing by rules does not matter in HRC rule book as long she gets her wishes. In her dreams, she ever will be elected, leave alone nominated. She must be put to rest unmarked in political grave of politics.

Posted by: Just & Fair | May 31, 2008 10:10 AM | Report abuse

Prediction: that lady with the sign will have her vote counted, but Florida will only have half its delegate count. She will probably be disappointed, but is she really going to vote for McCain in November?

Posted by: DG | May 31, 2008 9:58 AM | Report abuse

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