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Five Things Hillary Clinton Needs To Do Tonight



With her speech tonight at the Democratic National Convention, Hillary Clinton has an opportunity to bring the party together for the fall campaign. (AP Photo)

DENVER -- Hillary Rodham Clinton's speech to the Democratic National Convention today is perhaps the most highly anticipated address (aside from Barack Obama's acceptance speech) of the week.

Questions about Clinton's relationship with Obama have lingered in the months since the primary ended and a number of supporters of the New York senator have said that they cannot support Obama under any circumstances.

So, what does Clinton need to do tonight to heal the wounds of the primary? We polled a number of sharp Democratic operatives on just that question. Their takes as well as a few of The Fix's own observations are below. Have thoughts of your own about Clinton's upcoming speech? Sound off in the comments section.

1. Acknowledge her supporters: Clinton won more than 18 million votes in the primaries and, for many of those who voted for her, the candidacy was less a campaign than a cause. (Side note: Clinton's campaign did a poor job of putting those passionate advocates front and center -- allowing Obama to look like the movement candidate with grassroots energy behind him.) Given how strongly many Democrats feel about her, Clinton must spend some time in her speech making note of the sacrifices made by those who worked and voted for her. By revisiting what was accomplished during her campaign, Clinton, in effect, primes the pump with her supporters for a pitch for Obama.

2. Use Humor: One of Clinton's secret weapons, which she used only sparingly in the primaries, is her sense of humor. Hard to believe for some but the New York senator is genuinely funny and thinks quickly on her feet. Humor is a great disarmer and Clinton would do well to throw a few self-deprecating references into her speech tonight a la Al Gore's now-famous: "I used to be the next president of the United States" line.

3. Connect Clinton-Obama Messages: In the speech with which she bowed out of the presidential race, Clinton suggested that, despite the heated campaign, she and Obama were not all that different -- that Obama's campaign was a logical extension of her candidacy. "I understand that we all know this has been a tough fight, but the Democratic party is a family and now it is time to restore the ties that bind us together," Clinton urged at the time. "We may have started on separate journeys but today our paths have merged." Clinton must pick up on that idea tonight, arguing that the differences between the two candidates in the primaries were largely personality-driven not policy-focused.

4. Go at McCain: The old adage -- the enemy of my enemy is my friend -- still holds. And, while lots of Clinton supporters may be skeptical about Obama, they agree with the Illinois Senator on many more issues than they do with John McCain. Clinton would do well to throw some red meat to the crowd tonight -- hitting McCain as out of touch on the economy, as a third term for President Bush, etc. -- for two reasons: First, it will remind her backers of why they are Democrats in the first place and, second, it will get the Obama partisans, many of whom are tepid toward the Clintons, on her side during the speech. "She will talk about the differences between Republicans and Democrats, making clear some of the important distinctions between Senators Obama and McCain," predicted former Clinton senior adviser Howard Wolfson.

5. Bigger is Better: The more magnanimous Clinton appears, the better for both herself and Obama. For Clinton who still seems to be mulling her next move in politics, any road that she will head down is made less bumpy by emerging as a leading advocate for Obama over the next few months -- starting with tonight's speech. It does Clinton no good to be seen as a timid or unwilling endorser; the more sweeping she is in her praise for Obama, in the idea that the man and the moment have come together, the more she will endear herself to those Democrats who grew alienated from her and her husband during the primary process. And, the more gracious Clinton is tonight, the easier it is for Obama to return the favor on Thursday and, in doing so, start the healing process in earnest.

By Chris Cillizza  |  August 26, 2008; 3:30 PM ET
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Hillary shot herself dead in the butt when she stood up and called for everyone to nominate Nobama by acclimation! I don't care who promised what, the hacks running the present incarnation of the Democratic Party sold her down the river and all but spit in her face! Their word is not worth *****. She should have told them to go @@@@ themselves! Our party is doomed if Greek God Nobama ascends to the throne!

Posted by: chutche | August 28, 2008 12:31 AM | Report abuse

Just why should Hillary praise Obama? Obama's kiddy corps and attack thugs continue to launch vile viciois attacks on her and Bill?

Just look at the posts on WaPo.

Posted by: William | August 26, 2008 7:59 PM

You are absolutely correct, no matter what she does to get O elected you will cotinue to read vile comments here telling her to cook dinner, and every mysoginist stereotype they can think of. Why is it
her job to get the candidate that has labeled her family racists elected POTUS? Will wait for an honest answer,some day.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 27, 2008 9:32 AM | Report abuse

I enjoy reading bolgs just as you do, but this is 2008 and we have resources at our finger tips that were never available before. You read a lot of suspect information in these blogs, some on it's face is completely ridiculous. You don't have to take anything at face value. You can check for yourself and not be fed lies by unscrupulous bloggers. They no longer have the power, truth is your power. Below are a couple of the very good fact checking web sites available.
Be an informed voter.

http://www.factcheck.org/
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Posted by: Anonymous | August 27, 2008 2:39 AM | Report abuse

This is all you need to know about Obama and his terrorist friend Bill Ayers-DEMS. WOULDN'T BE CAUGHT DEAD VOTING FOR THIS JOKER OBAMA-WHERE THE HELL DID HE COME FROM ANYWAY? TERRORISTS AND FELONS FOR FRIENDS-SHEESH-OBAMA IS A SECURITY RISK!

Obama Responds On Ayers

Obama has an ad up "responding" to the criticism of his relationship with Bill Ayers. Left unanswered:

1. Why has he been covering this up before now?

Obama's campaign manager David Axelrod told The Politico in February that

"Bill Ayers lives in his neighborhood. Their kids attend the same school," he said. "They're certainly friendly, they know each other, as anyone whose kids go to school together."

Obama told George Stepanopolous during the Democratic debate in Philadelphia that

This is a guy who lives in my neighborhood, who's a professor of English in Chicago, who I know and who I have not received some official endorsement from. He's not somebody who I exchange ideas from on a regular basis.

And the so-called "Fact Check" at the Obama website does not disclose that Obama and Ayers worked together on a failed education reform project from 1995 to 2001, and had probably first teamed up on education reform in 1987.

2. Set aside the fact that Obama was a mere lad when Ayers was setting bombs; today Ayers is an unreconstructed hard-left radical with dramatic views on education and society - as he explained to Hugo Chavez during a speech in Venezuela in 2006, "La educacion es revolucion!"

Obama worked for five years with Bill Ayers on education reform while they were both with the Chicago Annenberg Challenge. Are we being asked to believe that, just as Obama initially claimed to have been unaware of Jeremiah Wright's views, he was also unaware of Ayers current radicalism?

Coming soon - "That's not the Bill Ayers I knew".

So why the cover-up? We can't know, since at this point we don't know the full extent of the Obama/Ayers relationship. But at a minimum, I expect that the campaign is uncomfortable with the reality that their man of almost non-existent executive experience was in fact chairman of a high-profile belly-flop in education reform. I doubt that soccer moms or anyone else will be thrilled to learn that Obama hung with unapologetic terrorists, talked about school reform, and achieved nothing.


Posted by: spring rain | August 27, 2008 1:15 AM | Report abuse

I meant to say; Those who turn a deaf ear on her speech and don't follow her leadership tonight are not true HRC supporters. They're probably just Rush Limbaugh fans. It's time for them to be ignored.

Posted by: Von | August 27, 2008 1:13 AM | Report abuse

Some of these comments professing their undying love for HRC and hatred for Obama
are perfect examples of the phake constipated clintonite craze created by the GOP. It's a ruse. I guarantee there are no liberals, progressives, democrats with their head so far up HRC's butt they're willing to sabotage a democratic victory simply for the sake of 'allegiance.' Hillary gave an excellent speech tonight. Excellent. Those who turn a deaf ear on her speech and follow her leadership tonight is not a true HRC supporter.

Posted by: Von | August 27, 2008 1:10 AM | Report abuse

HILLARY IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THE POLLS SHOWING OBAMA SLIPPING AND SLIPPING. IT WAS NOT AND IS NOT HER RESPONSIBILITY TO DO ANYTHING FOR HIM. HE IS SUPPOSED TO BE BIG ENOUGH TO WIN ON HIS OWN. (HE CAN'T FILL INVESCO STADIUM SO NOW THERE IS A FREE CONCERT BY BON JOVI AND SPRINGSTEEN.)

Clinton did not "bow out", she suspended her campaign, the delegates have not voted yet. You are not asking about or reporting about the instructions from the DNC that delegates have to vote on paper by breakfast tomorrow. Of course this would mean no accountability and no press watching the counting of the votes, no delegate, no super delegate will have to own their vote. The DNC plan is to stop the roll call vote and nominate Obama by acclamation if the paper votes are looking not united enough.

There will not be a roll call vote unless 20% of the delegates petition for it which some are trying to do. Of about 800 needed for forcing a roll call vote, about 400 have been collected.

Posted by: hillaryhead | August 27, 2008 12:46 AM | Report abuse

WHAT A SPEECH ... GOD BLESS YOU, HILLARY ... !!! ... I am so sorry we failed you. We should had worked harder for you - we should had worked smarter for you. Now we must accept Obama (the modern JFK) as our Commander-In-Chief, tutored by Biden (his personal Dick Cheney) ... then again, perhaps not ...

Posted by: Louie | August 27, 2008 12:16 AM | Report abuse

Chris,
I agree with you completely about what Hillary must do tonight, and i believe that she has done it. Tonight, she has used her wise humor, acknowledged her female supporters, attacked McCain for his support in his Bush's policies, and has hopefully, strengthened the Democratic Party. I believe it to be the best speech she has ever given, and i am certain that she has cleared many doubts.

Posted by: Peach | August 26, 2008 11:59 PM | Report abuse

obama 08

Posted by: no way, no how, no mccain | August 26, 2008 11:41 PM | Report abuse

HILLARY NAILED IT!!! She took it "Home!" She literally told it how it how it needed to be told.

I will personally look into helping knock down her debt, if it hasn't been cleared already.

THAT's what I'm talking about. That's the strong characteristic I'm looking for. Go Hillary! Outstanding! Go Democrats!

Now we can get back to The Issues!

Posted by: Obama2008 | August 26, 2008 11:37 PM | Report abuse

The Democratic party is a shame to America. It makes me so sad to see that we have a party that consistently stands against justice and righteousness. A party that exults in the same self-righteous hedonism that has been the end of countless civilizations.

Posted by: Barley in WA | August 26, 2008 11:33 PM | Report abuse

Mrs. Obama's actual name is "Michelle LaVaughn Robinson Obama." Why are people trying to spread more lies?

Anyway Senator Clinton needs to impress upon the masses that a vote against Senator Obama or no vote at all is a vote against what the causes she's supported all her career.

Posted by: GC4Life | August 26, 2008 11:08 PM | Report abuse

To Paul,

Is your post just a hit on Obama or are you trying to convince me why I should vote for McCain?
If its the later please tell me why, but without bashing Obama.

The one difference I have seen from Obama to Bush is the ability to listen to views before making a decision which suggests me that he is smarter and more switched on about the issues facing the world today and about the things I care about.

My post was to explain why I will vote for Obama even though I am blue collar. The polls are interesting but I vote for the candidate that best represents my views.


Posted by: Joe | August 26, 2008 11:00 PM | Report abuse

I normally don't have much good to say about Hillary but I'd give her speech kudos so far (can't say the same for Bill). She is talking a bit too much about herself, but what she is saying about Obama is good. Her "were you in it..." series of questions was excellent.

Posted by: RealChoices | August 26, 2008 11:00 PM | Report abuse

terrible speakers, disappointing convention

Posted by: Anonymous | August 26, 2008 10:31 PM | Report abuse

REB who is a paid Obama staffer

You are not running against Bush

sorry for you.


You are running against MCCAIN who is ahead in the polls for good !!!!


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Posted by: Anonymous | August 26, 2008 10:23 PM | Report abuse

REB who is a paid Obama staffer

You are not running against Bush

sorry for you.


You are running against MCCAIN who is ahead in the polls for good !!!!


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Posted by: Anonymous | August 26, 2008 10:23 PM | Report abuse

REB who is a paid Obama staffer - you are not running against Bush - you are running against MCCAIN.


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Posted by: Anonymous | August 26, 2008 10:21 PM | Report abuse

Whats really funny about this election year is that not one canidate in the past has mobilized this country more in new voters signing up, in voter turn out, two riveting speeches that rival those by JFK or MLK, more money donated to a campaign than any in the history of this country and yes race has a lot to do with it, had Obama been a Caucasian you would have kick Bush out already and made Obama president. You elected Bush with far less talent!!!

Posted by: REB | August 26, 2008 10:01 PM | Report abuse

Here's how I see it; Hillary supporters no longer have a right to freely vote for a candidate they are comfortable with, they are being threatened, she is being threatened with never having Democrat support if Empty Suit loses. Now she is being handed a task list by Brainiac Cillizza...how crass can these empty headed liberals get?

One tiny thing the pan heads forget: Hillary has the votes. Empty suit does not. Your threats are as empty as his suit.

Posted by: Eyes-Wide-Open | August 26, 2008 9:56 PM | Report abuse

Obama is the perfect candidate for:

- A second class country
- College boys and yuppies
- Jobless blacks
- Russia's expansion
- Deep American economic depression
- The media having a ball
- Michelle transforming the Rose Garden into a Cotton Garden
- Rezcko profiting in the real state market
- Pimps and pushers aiming at Potheads
- Blacks progressing without working
- McCain wining the next election

Posted by: Caronte | August 26, 2008 9:41 PM | Report abuse

Obama is the perfect candidate for:

- A second class country
- College boys and yuppies
- Jobless blacks
- Russia's expansion
- Deep American economic depression
- The media having a ball
- Michelle transforming the Rose Garden into a Cotton Garden
- Rezcko profiting in the real state market
- Pimps and pushers aiming at Potheads
- Blacks progressing without working
- McCain wining the next election

Posted by: Caronte | August 26, 2008 9:41 PM | Report abuse

Obama is the perfect candidate for:

- A second class country
- College boys and yuppies
- Jobless blacks
- Russia's expansion
- Deep American economic depression
- The media having a ball
- Michelle transforming the Rose Garden into a Cotton Garden
- Rezcko profiting in the real state market
- Pimps and pushers aiming at Potheads
- Blacks progressing without working
- McCain wining the next election

Posted by: Caronte | August 26, 2008 9:38 PM | Report abuse

You missed the boat on this article.
Hillary does not need to do anything. It is Obama that must bring in the voters. It is his responsibility. And it is Joe Biden that is the veep and needs to go after John McCain.
When is the media going to get off the vote for Obama bamdwagon and be journalist? Who has a flashlight?

Posted by: DEM now IND | August 26, 2008 9:37 PM | Report abuse

Obama is the perfect candidate for:

- A second class country
- College boys and yuppies
- Jobless blacks
- Russia's expansion
- Deep American economic depression
- The media having a ball
- Michelle transforming the Rose Garden into a Cotton Garden
- Rezcko profiting in the real state market
- Pimps and pushers aiming at Potheads
- Blacks progressing without working
- McCain wining the next election

Posted by: Caronte | August 26, 2008 9:37 PM | Report abuse

To Joe,

Too bad, Mr. O has less experience than Bush.

Who wants BUSH LITE in the White House again?

More you learn about Mr. O, voters are switching to "undecided" column. That is why, he is at 45 or below for three straight months now. Any "Dog Named Democrat" would be at 55 this season.

McCain has no business to be competitive with any other democratic candidates other than of course, Mr. O.

Posted by: Paul | August 26, 2008 9:33 PM | Report abuse

To Bob,
Well put but the republicans have never been the party of blue collar workers and John McCain isn't either.
He comes from a background of wealth and privilege and has used it to get advantages all his life. Sure he looks more like a blue collar guy and fought in a war but that doesn't mean he is smart enough or the right person to take us forward.

Obama has a funny name but his own history is closer to a working class background than many of his ivy league supporters.

I tend to think of Obama as the kid from down the road whose parents worked next to yours. A kid who was always smart, worked hard in school and went to college. Everything his parents had hoped for him. Maybe the thing you would hope for your children.

My hope is that he will remember those roots and from his new position help them and use good judgement that helps America too. I'm not sure either but I want to take a chance as more of the same won't work.

Thats why he has my vote.

Posted by: Joe | August 26, 2008 9:22 PM | Report abuse


Green card for Obama wrote:
We need this proof. We need Obama to present his original hospital birth record. We need it to prove he was born in the US and can be President, and to silence the rumors that he was born abroad.

My comment:
What a load of garbage. The birth certificate, which was examined by the Annenberg Foundation (started by a Republican who served as a Republican appointed Ambassador) has posted very clear scans showing that it is a current certificate issued by the State of Hawaii. It is conclusive proof of his birth. In addition, the Honolulu Advertiser, less than 2 weeks after his birth printed in the paper an announcement of his birth. An announcment of his birth published as a standard notice based on records of live birth set, as a matter of course, to the Advertiser by the State Department of Health. This right wing wet dream fantasy would require:
1. Complicity by the Current Government of the State of Hawaii and REPUBLICAN Governor Linda Lingle:
2. Complicity by the Government of the State of Hawaii back in the very early 1960's and

a reason why such complicity would exisit back in the very early 1960's. In short, its a complete and total fantasy and is the desparate product of a Right Wing Smear Machine trying to provide an excuse and a reason for the racist to vote against the Obama ticket.

Posted by: Another Load of Bilge Water | August 26, 2008 9:20 PM | Report abuse

B.O. lol., "Draft Dodger, Womanizer bill", "Hippy hill", I served 1125 days combat for our "Nation" with pride! I`ll not waste your time, "None" are "Worth" wasting our time or dollars with. As the democrats has proven, with ignorance, being an inept organization! Dumb seriel show!

Posted by: Disabled Vietnam Veteran | August 26, 2008 9:01 PM | Report abuse

sfsinger,

You couldn't have helped justify anything better congratulations your elitist attitude just proved the point of being an elitist Obama supporter.

I will point out your sentence here

" I have a Master's degree and my father has a Ph.D, we both support Obama"

I personally don't care how much you paid for your personal toilet paper certificate. Does that make you better then me you have to make it a point you have a MASTERS degree and your father a PhD. does that mean I am supposed to bow down to you oh mighty cranium cruncher.

Not everyone has a Ph.D or Masters... and not everyone grows up privileged and elite to afford Masters and PhD. degrees.

Sorry I am a blue color worker who doesn't get to sit on my a$$ all day and have being green competitions with friends and family over $5.00 Starbucks lattes while wasting time at work reading Huffington Post or DailyKos and driving a gas guzzling SUV and then have he audacity to preach to others about hope and inspiration.

My inspiration is knowing that if myself and my fellow blue collar workers stop doing our jobs you poor PhD's might actually have to get your hands dirty.

Remeber it's the blue color grunts that run this country! If all the truckers went on strike tommorow you wouldn't be getting your precious $5.00 latte's or gas for your gas guzzling SUV's You wouldn't get anything because nothing would be moving!

Your elite Obama doesn't care about us he's made that clear! I'll go buy Exxon/ Mobil stock and put a Republican in before I put an elitist like Obama in at least I'll be supporting the guys mining the oil on the platforms and the truck drivers and the other blue colar workers like myself that bust there a$$es everyday to make a living!

Posted by: Bob | August 26, 2008 9:00 PM | Report abuse

sfsinger,

You couldn't have helped justify anything better congratulations your elitist attitude just proved the point of being an elitist Obama supporter.

I will point out your sentence here

" I have a Master's degree and my father has a Ph.D, we both support Obama"

I personally don't care how much you paid for your personal toilet paper certificate. Does that make you better then me you have to make it a point you have a MASTERS degree and your father a PhD. does that mean I am supposed to bow down to you oh mighty cranium cruncher.

Not everyone has a Ph.D or Masters... and not everyone grows up privileged and elite to afford Masters and PhD. degrees.

Sorry I am a blue color worker who doesn't get to sit on my a$$ all day and have being green competitions with friends and family over $5.00 Starbucks lattes while wasting time at work reading Huffington Post or DailyKos and driving a gas guzzling SUV and then have he audacity to preach to others about hope and inspiration.

My inspiration is knowing that if myself and my fellow blue collar workers stop doing our jobs you poor PhD's might actually have to get your hands dirty.

Remeber it's the blue color grunts that run this country! If all the truckers went on strike tommorow you wouldn't be getting your precious $5.00 latte's or gas for your gas guzzling SUV's You wouldn't get anything because nothing would be moving!

Your elite Obama doesn't care about us he's made that clear! I'll go buy Exxon/ Mobil stock and put a Republican in before I put an elitist like Obama in at least I'll be supporting the guys mining the oil on the platforms and the truck drivers and the other blue colar workers like myself that bust there a$$es everyday to make a living!

Posted by: Bob | August 26, 2008 8:58 PM | Report abuse

Straight Talk 'Dove',

Stop smoking that stuff! You must be high or delusional to believe that Republicans crossed the aisle to vote for the only candidate that could defeat them! Obama is just a clown who benefited from big money and wise ass Republicans!

Posted by: Caronte | August 26, 2008 8:57 PM | Report abuse

Straight Talk 'Dove',

Stop smoking that stuff! You must be high or delusional to believe that Republicans crossed the aisle to vote for the only candidate that could defeat them! Obama is just a clown who benefited from big money and wise ass Republicans!

Posted by: Caronte | August 26, 2008 8:56 PM | Report abuse

Some affluent women, let's say women worth 5 million dollars or more in assets, don't have to care if McCain wins. They just want a women, in this case Hillary, as their nominee. Democratic Party principles are unimportant to them. A true instance of a personality cult. Just like Evita Peron's fanatical supporters.

Posted by: jakeD | August 26, 2008 8:56 PM | Report abuse

Some affluent women, let's say women worth 5 million dollars or more in assets, don't have to care if McCain wins. They just want a women, in this case Hillary, as their nominee. Democratic Party principles are unimportant to them. A true instance of a personality cult. Just like Evita Peron's fanatical supporters.

Posted by: tanaS | August 26, 2008 8:55 PM | Report abuse

Hillary should speak about her favorite recipes - that would fix them.


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Posted by: Hello | August 26, 2008 8:55 PM | Report abuse

Hillary should speak about her favorite recipes - that would fix them.


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Posted by: Hello | August 26, 2008 8:54 PM | Report abuse

LAWSUIT ON PANAMA CANAL ZONER MCAMNESTY'S ABILITY TO BE PRESIDENT?

Whatever happened to the lawsuit (seems like it was in Maine) challenging McAmnesty's claim that his birth on foreign soil (I don't think even on a military base!) meets the Constitutional requirement that people who run for President must have been born in the United States? I know that before the suit was filed he paid Ted Olson a ton of money to get the brief ready, so he knows it's an issue. This matter really needs to be resolved by the Supreme Court. At least on this issue, can't we all agree that the Constitution needs to be strictly interpreted? I have seen legal arguments against McAmnesty, and they make it clear it is very risky business to loosely construe the language. There is a process to change the provision, and it doesn't involve assertions by candidates.

Posted by: Straight Talk Hawk | August 26, 2008 8:50 PM | Report abuse

5 more things Clinton must do tonight:

1. Remind us that George Bush is a moron and The Old Maverick supports...a moron.

2. Suggest that otherwise upright citizens that voted twice for the aforementioned moron should have their voting rights suspended just because they must also be too stupid to participate in a democracy.

3. Gently suggest that being a PRISONER of WAR (even though he hates to talk about it every day) does not constitute a qualification for higher office. Crashing five aeroplanes doesn't help either.

4. Ask if The Old Maverick now knows how many "homes" he has.

5. Point out that the modern GOP is the party of the war profiteers, crony capitalists, chicken hawks, liars and right wing authoritarian freaks that don't much care for our form of gubmint.

Posted by: branfo4 | August 26, 2008 8:47 PM | Report abuse

5 more things Clinton must do tonight:

1. Remind us that George Bush is a moron and The Old Maverick supports...a moron.

2. Suggest that otherwise upright citizens that voted twice for the aforementioned moron should have their voting rights suspended just because they must also be too stupid to participate in a democracy.

3. Gently suggest that being a PRISONER of WAR (even though he hates to talk about it every day) does not constitute a qualification for higher office. Crashing five aeroplanes doesn't help either.

4. Ask if The Old Maverick now knows how many "homes" he has.

5. Point out that the modern GOP is the party of the war profiteers, crony capitalists, chicken hawks, liars and right wing authoritarian freaks that don't much care for our form of gubmint.

Posted by: branfo4 | August 26, 2008 8:46 PM | Report abuse

5 more things Clinton must do tonight:

1. Remind us that George Bush is a moron and The Old Maverick supports...a moron.

2. Suggest that otherwise upright citizens that voted twice for the aforementioned moron should have their voting rights suspended just because they must also be too stupid to participate in a democracy.

3. Gently suggest that being a PRISONER of WAR (even though he hates to talk about it every day) does not constitute a qualification for higher office. Crashing five aeroplanes doesn't help either.

4. Ask if The Old Maverick now knows how many "homes" he has.

5. Point out that the modern GOP is the party of the war profiteers, crony capitalists, chicken hawks, liars and right wing authoritarian freaks that don't much care for our form of gubmint.

Posted by: branfo4 | August 26, 2008 8:46 PM | Report abuse

At a convention intended to celebrate the nomination of Barack Obama, all of the networks tonight have -- as we predicted --focused all their attention on Ms. Wm. J. Clinton and the harpies.

One HRC female delegate from MD, named "Borges" or something, made clear she was anti-O and spent 15 minutes praising Mac. Her agenda: a demand for a full self-absorbed roll call vote to embarrass O.

Of course, Wm. J. Clinton and Rendell spent the earlier part of the day "supporting" the nominee -- by slamming BO. When asked a direct question, Clinton again refused to endorse O. Rendell compared BO to losing 50s candidate Adlai Stevenson. They call this support????? Are these the Strom Thurmond Dixiecrats of '48???

Before the campaign I thought the term "Clinton fatigue" was an unfair slam. Now we know it's very real. I'm turning to the USA cable network and watch Venus in the US Open. Oy.

Posted by: Broadway Joe | August 26, 2008 8:43 PM | Report abuse

Five Things Hillary Clinton Needs To Do Tonight: Give Obama and the Obamaniacs the finger, five times!

Posted by: Caronte | August 26, 2008 8:42 PM | Report abuse

STFU!!! You lost. It's over. Get on with your lives. Vote Republican if you feel you must but STFU!!!!
Posted by: Bob | August 26, 2008 6:39 PM
>>>Dear Bob,
Obama is a big boy. He is smart and he sure does not need your kind of support if he is the uniter he professes to be. So good luck to Obama.
Coming back to you, are you really, really an Obama supporter, or even a Dem? You seem so happy running down others by telling others to 'STFU' while you merrily spew your invectives. Shame on you. The DP surely can live without your divisive and negative attitude.

Posted by: john silverstone | August 26, 2008 8:41 PM | Report abuse

I am looking forward to the end of the election if for no other reason than it means Diane72 can go crawl back under her rock, along with AsperGirl, Ryan, PeaPod, and some others. In fact, you can go now. It's OK. We got your point.

Michelle Obama has more class in the smallest part of her being than you slime could amass if you lived 10,000 years.

Posted by: willythekorn | August 26, 2008 8:28 PM | Report abuse

One thing Bill Clinton needs to do right away - Make this statement:

"Hillary and I have both been through the Republican attack machine. We know what it's like.

So there is one issue we must ask Obama to clarify, or their attack machine could tear up not only his candidacy but our Party.

Obama and the DNC were sued last week to prove that Obama is a US citizen by birth, thus eligible to be president.

We need this proof. We need Obama to present his original hospital birth record. We need it to prove he was born in the US and can be President, and to silence the rumors that he was born abroad.

Does a candidate owe the country to prove he is eligible, or do we owe it to him to just nominate him and wait for the Republicans to attack, maybe after the ballots are already printed…

What if Obama can't prove he's eligible? Can you imagine the damage that would do to the Democratic party?

Is it too much to ask him to present the original hospital record of birth from Honolulu? Now, not when it's too late?"

The problem is that Obama has not really presented proof that he was born in Hawaii. The birth cert on the internet is a short form which doesn’t show the hospital, so it doesn’t preclude his mother reporting the birth after returning to the US from her trip to Kenya, in order to get citizenship for her son.

The photo of the certificate is posted at factcheck.org, a site that pretends to be independent, when it’s really a branch of the Annenberg foundation, Obama’s longterm sponsor. Just that much more suspicious.

See http://tinyurl.com/Prove-UR-US-OK for a summary of the lawsuit by stalwart Democratic attorney Phil Berg, former deputy District Attorney of Pennslyvania, and lifelong member of the NAACP, which he filed pro bono to save our party from such an awful risk.

Posted by: Green Card for Obama | August 26, 2008 8:24 PM | Report abuse

Too bad we don't have a black person running. I might vote for them. Depends on their views, experience and whatever else they could say to give me reason to vote for them. As it is, we have a woman, an Arab and a POW. I think anyone who votes for a woman because she is a woman should stay home. I think anyone who votes for someone they consider to be a black man because he is thought to be African American should stay home. Any votes for a POW other than because they think he is the best candidate should stay home.

Vote for the person you think will best do the job and help our Country get out of the mess we're in. DON'T vote for a female, a (supposed)'Black' man or a POW. Vote for the package, not the pretty wrapping!!!

Posted by: NotStuckOnParties | August 26, 2008 8:21 PM | Report abuse

Five things Hillary needs to do tonight:

1. Fetch coffee
2. Read Cosmo
3. Get new purse
4. Get new face
5. Leave town by 8:15

Posted by: Anonymous | August 26, 2008 8:12 PM | Report abuse

6. ACKNOWLEDGE RUSH

Many of her 18 million votes came as a result of Republicans taking part in Rush Limbaugh's "Operation Chaos." She needs to "reach across the aisle" and acknowledge and thank Rush.

Posted by: Straight Talk Hawk | August 26, 2008 8:08 PM | Report abuse

In the Obama fantasy, when a self-proclaimed unifier cannot unify, it must be the fault of the people not unifying. How delusional do you have to be to think because you proclaim yourself something that makes it so. Reminds me of when the moral majority proclaimed themselves moral. They were neither moral nor a majority. Obama is neither a unifier nor an agent of change.

A small majority of Democrats followed Obama to la-la land and now that they are in la-la land are looking for whom to blame. Look in the mirror, not at Clinton or her supporters.

Posted by: LaughingLou | August 26, 2008 8:06 PM | Report abuse

Broadway Joe

>>> O will overcome eventually, but the reason he is not 10 ahead now is "color-coded." <<<

Another reason could be, Mr O has less experience than Mr. Bush.

American people do no want another BUSH LITE in the White House.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 26, 2008 8:05 PM | Report abuse

Broadway Joe

>>> O will overcome eventually, but the reason he is not 10 ahead now is "color-coded." <<<

Another reason could be, Mr O has less experience than Mr. Bush.

American people do no want another BUSH LITE in the White House.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 26, 2008 8:05 PM | Report abuse

laboya

>>>If Obama was white, none of these unusual events would be happening.<<<

Yes, you are right! Obama (as a white person) will still in Chicago City Council.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 26, 2008 8:00 PM | Report abuse

Five things Hillary Clinton needs to do tonight:
1. Fix dinner
2. Vacuum hotel rug
3. Cancel convention appearance
4. Watch TIVO-ed "Days of Our Lives"
5. Reserve flight to LaGuardia

Posted by: Anonymous | August 26, 2008 8:00 PM | Report abuse

I wonder if Michelle Shaniqua Obama will leave "watch-springs" in the Lincoln Bedroom.

Posted by: PeaPod | August 26, 2008 7:59 PM | Report abuse


Just why should Hillary praise Obama? Obama's kiddy corps and attack thugs continue to launch vile viciois attacks on her and Bill?

Just look at the posts on WaPo.

Posted by: William | August 26, 2008 7:59 PM | Report abuse

McCain finally admitted to the people from the first district (About ten miles from where he was building) that regardless of what was happening to him, he was finished in the first district. If he won he would be a Senator and if he lost he would be out of politics. Of course the campaign was rigged. First off, he declared for the Senate the day after Bruce Babbitt announced for the Presidency, giving him a clear run at it. He never would have been able to beat Babbitt who was a very popular Governor at the time. McCain has not had serious opposition since his first primary for his first seat in Congress when he beat John Rhodes his son. For the obvious reason ($$$$$$) no serious Democrat has ever challenged him here in Arizona. Yet he still always outspent his opposition by 4 or 5 to 1 every six years and acts like he was in a hell of a fight.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 26, 2008 7:57 PM | Report abuse

Just why should Hillary praise Obama while he still has his kiddy corps and attack thugs continue to launch vile viciois attacks on her and Bill?

Just look at the posts on WaPo.

Posted by: William | August 26, 2008 7:57 PM | Report abuse

Five things Ms. Wm. Jefferson Clinton needs to do tonight:
1. Shut up
2. Get a new pants suit
3. Lose weight
4. Apologize to everyone
5. Leave

On a related topic, Newsweek's Jonah Weisberg has written a brilliant article (one of the best of the year) about just how the racial issue, which Ms. Wm. Clinton and her surrogates (see G. Ferraro, E. Rendell, Harriet Christian, etc.) have exploited, has become a huge obstacle to get around. Unlike most MSM journalists, Weisberg tells it like it is. O will overcome eventually, but the reason he is not 10 ahead now is "color-coded." Weisberg at his most brilliant --

Weisberg Excerpt:
"But let's be honest: the reason Obama isn't ahead right now is that he trails badly among one group, older white voters. He lags with them for a simple reason: the color of his skin.

Much evidence points to racial prejudice as a factor that could be large enough to cost Obama the election. That warning is written all over last month's CBS/New York Times poll, which is worth studying if you want to understand white America's curious sense of racial grievance. In the poll, 26 percent of whites say they have been victims of discrimination. Twenty-seven percent say too much has been made of the problems facing black people. Twenty-four percent say that the country isn't ready to elect a black president. Five percent acknowledge that they, personally, would not vote for a black candidate.""

Posted by: Broadway Joe | August 26, 2008 7:53 PM | Report abuse

Five things Ms. Wm. Jefferson Clinton needs to do tonight:
1. Shut up
2. Get a new pants suit
3. Lose weight
4. Apologize to everyone
5. Leave

On a related topic, Newsweek's Jonah Weisberg has written a brilliant article (one of the best of the year) about just how the racial issue, which Ms. Wm. Clinton and her surrogates (see G. Ferraro, E. Rendell, Harriet Christian, etc.) have exploited, has become a huge obstacle to get around. Unlike most MSM journalists, Weisberg tells it like it is. O will overcome eventually, but the reason he is not 10 ahead now is "color-coded." Weisberg at his most brilliant --

Weisberg Excerpt:
"But let's be honest: the reason Obama isn't ahead right now is that he trails badly among one group, older white voters. He lags with them for a simple reason: the color of his skin.

Much evidence points to racial prejudice as a factor that could be large enough to cost Obama the election. That warning is written all over last month's CBS/New York Times poll, which is worth studying if you want to understand white America's curious sense of racial grievance. In the poll, 26 percent of whites say they have been victims of discrimination. Twenty-seven percent say too much has been made of the problems facing black people. Twenty-four percent say that the country isn't ready to elect a black president. Five percent acknowledge that they, personally, would not vote for a black candidate.""

Posted by: Broadway Joe | August 26, 2008 7:52 PM | Report abuse

All the nonsense is about race. If Obama was white, none of these unusual events would be happening. When have you ever seen the loser being offered anything of substance. However, since she is white she and other whites believes she deserves something that represents victory and not the black man. All the closeted racist both conservatives and liberals are shamefully looking for any kind of theory or excuse for not voting for a black man. John McCaine coundn't hold a candle up to Barak Obama by world-wide standards of evaluation. Asked the world. Obama is brillant and talented and a real born leader. McCaine is dumb and was protected and projected to stardom through privileded and rich parents. He was very dumb in cadet school, crashed five jet fighter in the Navy, but has a true grit and aggressiveness to cover up his dumbness. Look at what Obama has achieved within one year. Through sheer intelligence, leadership, organizational skills, forsight, in-depth understanding of people and their motivations, inventiveness, abstract knowledge, presevernce and will, he's managed to wrest the Democratict nomination away from all you blind pundants who do not understand his true essence. He's smart and can get the job done with his God-given talents. It's something you can't measure through logic. It come from the spirit, desire and will. Look at it this way: When you were in high school, there was a beutiful girl every boy wanted to have sex with. Everyone tried their best to bed her , but only the male with a certain born quality or talent was able to suceed. He wasn't the richest boy, he wasn't the most intelligent, he didn't have a hamsome face or optimum physical body, but he possessed a certain unexplainable talent that guided him to sucess. It's a spritritual thing. It's a rare talent, it's not learnable no matter how many books you read about how to bed a young lady, you'll never be able to suceed unless you were born again and come back as that male with the talent to suceed. Barak has got something you don't understand. Attack him all you want. Wish hard with all your might that he will fail. Pray to your God that he will fail. You won't be sucessful as he has a 6th sense of protection and purpose. And guess what? If you do manage to destroy him, you will never kill his dream as another Barak, Larry, Witherspoon or Tony will come behind him that's 10 time as strong.

Posted by: laboya | August 26, 2008 7:50 PM | Report abuse

All the nonsense is about race. If Obama was white, none of these unusual events would be happening. When have you ever seen the loser being offered anything of substance. However, since she is white she and other whites believes she deserves something that represents victory and not the black man. All the closeted racist both conservatives and liberals are shamefully looking for any kind of theory or excuse for not voting for a black man. John McCaine coundn't hold a candle up to Barak Obama by world-wide standards of evaluation. Asked the world. Obama is brillant and talented and a real born leader. McCaine is dumb and was protected and projected to stardom through privileded and rich parents. He was very dumb in cadet school, crashed five jet fighter in the Navy, but has a true grit and aggressiveness to cover up his dumbness. Look at what Obama has achieved within one year. Through sheer intelligence, leadership, organizational skills, forsight, in-depth understanding of people and their motivations, inventiveness, abstract knowledge, presevernce and will, he's managed to wrest the Democratict nomination away from all you blind pundants who do not understand his true essence. He's smart and can get the job done with his God-given talents. It's something you can't measure through logic. It come from the spirit, desire and will. Look at it this way: When you were in high school, there was a beutiful girl every boy wanted to have sex with. Everyone tried their best to bed her , but only the male with a certain born quality or talent was able to suceed. He wasn't the richest boy, he wasn't the most intelligent, he didn't have a hamsome face or optimum physical body, but he possessed a certain unexplainable talent that guided him to sucess. It's a spritritual thing. It's a rare talent, it's not learnable no matter how many books you read about how to bed a young lady, you'll never be able to suceed unless you were born again and come back as that male with the talent to suceed. Barak has got something you don't understand. Attack him all you want. Wish hard with all your might that he will fail. Pray to your God that he will fail. You won't be sucessful as he has a 6th sense of protection and purpose. And guess what? If you do manage to destroy him, you will never kill his dream as another Barak, Larry, Witherspoon or Tony will come behind him that's 10 time as strong.

Posted by: laboya | August 26, 2008 7:49 PM | Report abuse

Lynn, why don't you read the list of reasons for supporting Barack (learn to spell his name right for pete's sake) before saying we're all mindless drones. I have a Master's degree and my father has a Ph.D, we both support Obama. Plenty of hard working middle Americans support him too, because they know he cares more about their interests than McCain does.
Toni, I'm with you. It's definetely a double standard and Senator Clinton's work is not over and will not be all for nothing just because she didn't become president. I wouldn't be at all suprised if she and Gore weren't given prominent positions in his cabinet.

Posted by: sfsinger | August 26, 2008 7:48 PM | Report abuse

I wonder if Michelle Shaniqua Obama will leave "watch-springs" in the Lincoln Bedroom.

Posted by: Dianne72 | August 26, 2008 7:47 PM | Report abuse

"Five Things Hillary Clinton Needs To Do Tonight"
1-TELL HER SUPPORTERS THAT SHE DOESN'T WANT TO BE THE PRESIDENT OR VICE PRESIDENT.

2-BE PASSIONATE ABOUT OBAMA SUPPORT (SO FAR IT'S ALL FAKE)

3-DO NOT GIVE WRONG IMPRESSIONS AND HOPES UP FOR HER SUPPORTERS.

4-GET OUT OF SCENE AND MOVE AWAY FROM PUBLIC.

5-STAY AWAY, MAYBE UNTIL NEXT ELLECTIONS.

Posted by: BOBSTER | August 26, 2008 7:46 PM | Report abuse

"Five Things Hillary Clinton Needs To Do Tonight"
1-TELL HER SUPPORTERS THAT SHE DOESN'T WANT TO BE THE PRESIDENT OR VICE PRESIDENT.

2-BE PASSIONATE ABOUT OBAMA SUPPORT (SO FAR IT'S ALL FAKE)

3-DO NOT GIVE WRONG IMPRESSIONS AND HOPES UP FOR HER SUPPORTERS.

4-GET OUT OF SCENE AND MOVE AWAY FROM PUBLIC.

5-STAY AWAY, MAYBE UNTIL NEXT ELLECTIONS.

Posted by: BOBSTER | August 26, 2008 7:45 PM | Report abuse

Who Is Eldon Smith?

Why, that would be none other than John McCain:


It turns out that this isn't the first time the issue of John McCain's lavish multiple residences has emerged in the heat of a campaign.


"In 1986, when then-Rep. McCain was running for the Senate seat vacated by Barry Goldwater, he quietly began remodeling a $500,000 house in central Phoenix owned by his wealthy father-in-law James Hensley. The $225,000 project -- which included the construction of a 4,000-square-foot addition, swimming pool, jacuzzi, cabana and barbecue -- held political peril for McCain, who was already fighting charges that he was as an opportunistic carpertbagger."

"The new house was located in Phoenix's fourth congressional district -- outside of the first district in Tempe which he represented at the time."

"AP caught wind of the work at 7110 North Central Ave. shortly before the general election and dispatched a reporter to examine blueprints at the planning department. They found the permit applicants were listed as Hensley and a mysterious "Mr. Smith."

"The reporter tracked down McCain's plumber, who told him he'd been told Mr. Smith's first name was "Eldon."

"Eldon Smith, it turned out, was John McCain."

full story here:
http://www.politico.com/blogs/thecrypt/0808/The_GOPs_2008_nominee_isEldon_Smith.html


Good old "Eldon"...I mean John, didn't want people to know that he was planning to leave his congressional district - and also wanted to hide the cost of his lavish quarter-million dollar rennovation plans - so he came up with a ridiculous nom de maison, hoping to keep his plans buried under a sockpuppet. Of course, this might help explain why he lost track of the number of homes he's got.


Barack Obama has been remarkably open about his entire life story - a bio which has been subjected to endless scrutiny. But if there's anyone whose background we should be "unsure" of, it's John McCain's. I, for one, would like to learn about what else he's done in his life under an assumed name.

Posted by: Drain You | August 26, 2008 7:43 PM | Report abuse

OMG! Did you hear Michelle Shaniqua Obama give her speech last night. It was like a infomercial for Stay Soft Fro. I can see it now, they will be cleaning "watch-springs" from the Lincoln Bedroom.

Posted by: Dianne72 | August 26, 2008 7:42 PM | Report abuse

Daman 1 and others- please note that Gallup calls some 1400, calls it quits and makes a grand announcement, like this. RealClearPolitics.com is a poll which averages many polls. Note the AVERAGE Obama lead at the end of each line. Gallup's the ONLY poll showing a McCain lead. See below:
General Election: McCain vs. Obama

Poll Date Sample Obama (D) McCain (R) Spread
RCP Average 08/18 - 08/25 -- 45.7 44.0 Obama +1.7
Gallup Tracking 08/23 - 08/25 2684 RV 44 46 McCain +2
Rasmussen Tracking 08/23 - 08/25 3000 LV 46 46 Tie
CNN 08/23 - 08/24 909 RV 47 47 Tie
Hotline/FD 08/18 - 08/24 1022 RV 44 40 Obama +4
USA Today/Gallup 08/21 - 08/23 765 LV 48 45 Obama +3
ABC News/Wash Post 08/19 - 08/22 LV 49 45 Obama +4
FOX News 08/19 - 08/20 900 RV 42 39 Obama +3

Posted by: Toni | August 26, 2008 7:39 PM | Report abuse

Toni who blogged before this... This is the problem your are one of those bully type black activist. Not that it's a good choice, but Like Oprah you abandoned your feminism for race. I think time will tell who was sneaky and devisive

Posted by: ryan | August 26, 2008 7:38 PM | Report abuse

Daman 1 - please note that Gallup calls some 1400, calls it quits and makes a grand announcement, like this. RealClearPolitics.com is a poll which averages many polls. See below:
General Election: McCain vs. Obama

Poll Date Sample Obama (D) McCain (R) Spread
RCP Average 08/18 - 08/25 -- 45.7 44.0 Obama +1.7
Gallup Tracking 08/23 - 08/25 2684 RV 44 46 McCain +2
Rasmussen Tracking 08/23 - 08/25 3000 LV 46 46 Tie
CNN 08/23 - 08/24 909 RV 47 47 Tie
Hotline/FD 08/18 - 08/24 1022 RV 44 40 Obama +4
USA Today/Gallup 08/21 - 08/23 765 LV 48 45 Obama +3
ABC News/Wash Post 08/19 - 08/22 LV 49 45 Obama +4
FOX News 08/19 - 08/20 900 RV 42 39 Obama +3

Posted by: Toni | August 26, 2008 7:37 PM | Report abuse

I'm a Republican McCain supporter and think this whole thing is great. Hillary fanatics are so short-sighted and spiteful that they'll vote for someone who goes against what they claim to believe. I can't stand Clinton, I can't stand Obama, and I can hardly stand any Democrats. But we'll be happy for you to vote for our candidate. This election was supposed to go to the Democrats but its now really looking good for us.

Posted by: Jake | August 26, 2008 7:37 PM | Report abuse

Hello everyone! Roxy here. I'm kinda new to politics but I'm trying to quickly learn everything I can about all the candidates.

My problem is that every time I try to google "Barack Obama" on my computer, I am directed to sites about Mickey Mouse. My boyfriend said I have a virus but my father said, "What did you expect? He's an idiot!"

Who's right?

Posted by: Roxy | August 26, 2008 7:37 PM | Report abuse

How silly is this? Now there is a list for her to follow? Tell the Obama campaign to follow it, it's their race now isn't it? Hillary Clinton is not in the voting booth with people, pushing their pens. She can only do so much. It's up to Barack Obama to handle the load and figure it now. Gee, now I'm waiting for you to blame global warming on the Clintons, might as well, you all are doing a fine job blaming them for everything that doesn't go right.

Posted by: deedee1 | August 26, 2008 7:34 PM | Report abuse

>>>> Five Things Hillary Clinton Needs To Do Tonight <<<<

I have no problem with four things out of five you have listed above.

I diagree with your number 3 message which is to connect Clinton-Obama messages.

I would rather focus almost entirely (90%) on Clinton causes promised during primaries. Remaining 10%, I would focus on Obama as a delivery person for her causes now.

It is very similar to Kennedy messages last night. He advanced his causes. He did not even thanked Senator Biden, his long-time friend.

Posted by: YesWeCanForFREE | August 26, 2008 7:31 PM | Report abuse

kannbil ~

Osama? Really??

'Nuff said!

Posted by: NotStuckOnParties | August 26, 2008 7:30 PM | Report abuse

>>>> Five Things Hillary Clinton Needs To Do Tonight <<<<

I have no problem with four things out of five you have listed above.

I diagree with your number 3 message which is to connect Clinton-Obama messages.

I would rather focus almost entirely (90%) on Clinton causes promised during primaries. Remaining 10%, I would focus on Obama as a delivery person for her causes now.

It is very similar to Kennedy messages last night. He advanced his causes. He did not even thanked Senator Biden, his long-time friend.

Posted by: YesWeCanForFREE | August 26, 2008 7:29 PM | Report abuse

See? Michelle is a LIAR just like Obama:

Throw the flag against: Michelle Obama.


Call: Illegal shift By Steven Thomma, McClatchy Newspapers

Tue Aug 26, 12:51 PM ET


What happened: In her Monday night speech to the Democratic National Convention , Barack Obama's wife said she gave up what sounded like a lucrative career for public service.


"In my own life, in my own small way, I have tried to give back to this country that has given me so much," she said. "See, that's why I left a job at a big law firm for a career in public service, working to empower young people to volunteer in their communities."

Why that's wrong: She omitted the fact that she later went on to a high paying job at the University of Chicago Medical Center , where she worked in community and external affairs. In March 2005 , she was promoted to vice president for community and external affairs, and her salary jumped from $121,910 to $316,962 , which included a one-time bonus. In 2006, her salary was $273,618 , according to the Chicago Tribune .

Her promotion came two months after her husband became a senator, but campaign aides said that she'd been offered the promotion and turned it down before that.

In 2006, Sen. Obama sought, but didn't get, a $1 million earmark for the medical center. Aides and university officials said at the time that Michelle Obama had nothing to do with the request, and that her husband was merely trying to help a constituent like many others.

Obama, however, later said that he should have asked another senator to request the earmark for his wife's workplace. "This is something that slipped through our cracks, through our screening system," he said.

Michelle Obama also was named to the board of TreeHouse Foods , which makes specialty foods and whose biggest customer is Wal-Mart . Her compensation for that totaled $101,083 in 2006, according to the Chicago Tribune . That brought her earnings in 2006 to a total of $374,701 .

Penalty: Five yards

Posted by: arrabbiato | August 26, 2008 7:28 PM | Report abuse

The tasks are primarily Obama's. It is really hard to beleive that anyone is waiting for Hillary Clinton to tell them who to vote for or who to work for. If there is any significant disunity in the party, it is the polarization that comes from Obama and particularly from many of his supporters who still seem to see the Clintons and their supports as the forces of evil. It still seems unlikely that Obama has much interest in folding Clinton operatives into his campaign. Of course, he does want the help of the Democratic leadership in key states. I doubt any of them rely on Hillary Clinton to tell them what to do. They will certainly work to help Obama. But the success of their effort may well depend on how effective Obama is in working with them. It still remains to be seen how effective his campaign is in working with anyone outside the circle of true believers. In any case, the big concern are the voters in the middle. In the end, it will be primarily up to Barack Obama to connect with those voters. There is no political organization that can do the job for him.

Posted by: dnjake | August 26, 2008 7:28 PM | Report abuse

I'm at my Hillary limit. OK -- You want outrage? Here it is: I'm a 58 year-old Black woman who went through both the Womens Movement and the Civil Rights periods at UC Berkeley. A Feminist? Ardent. A Black Activist? A kinda "middle-class" activist! I was a Clinton supporter early on and because of what I felt were deceptive campaign activities, lies and an ENORMOUS amount of potential damaging history, I switched to Obama. Since then, I've been reading the blogs of PUMA people and other Hillary supporters and feeling like I have just fallen down the rabbit hole. First: If Black people had mounted a campaign movement, screaming, "it's our turn," we probably would have been lynched. Second: Heroes usually set the stage for the successes of others. There have been plenty of names of those Black activists who willingly helped pave the way for younger people. They are "heroes" exactly because they didn't expect their payoff. I'm not hysterical because Dr. Ralph Abernathy, Chalayne Hunter-Gault, Jesse Jackson, were never president! Why should these people now "expect" that Hillary should become President, let alone, "deserve" to be President? Third: While looking at pro-Hillary blogs, I became really uneasy reading comments that didn't sound like they came from Democrats at all. They were often conservative and extremely derisive. The only positive thing most had to say was how Hillary "deserved it." I honestly do not feel that those petulent followers who are now going to vote for McCain were ever true democrats, only wounded feminists who cannot believe that all their trials were "for nothing." This psycho-drama has to stop.GROW UP!

Posted by: Toni | August 26, 2008 7:28 PM | Report abuse

Hillary Clinton needs to address those PUMAs directly and tell them that if they vote for McCain instead of Obama, they are essentially taking their votes they casted for her back, because she has nearly identical views to Barack Obama, and very different views from John McCain. She needs to tell middle America that McCain does nat care about them, that he mainly wants to cut taxes for the rich, while Obama wants greater tax cuts for the middle and lower classes, and for the rich to pay their fair share. She also needs to tell them that McCain and the republicans are against labor unions, something middle America holds dearly. She needs to emphasize with the PUMAs that McCain will appoint conservative judges like Roberts and Alito if he is elected. She also needs to emphasize that McCain is the ultimmate flip flopper, escially when it comes to the environment and offshore drilling. Hillary needs to mention that the only elitists in this campaign are John and Cindy McCain, since he can't remember how many properties he owns, and Cindy says flying is the only way to get around Arizona because she is apparently too sophisticated to share the road with common Americans.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 26, 2008 7:27 PM | Report abuse

Well, as a devoted democrat I am now switching to McCain. Obama is to 'green' and lacks experience. Not mention how all I hear is black people talk that if he doesn't win they are already blaming racism. Plus I am tired of hearing from both blacks and whites how it doesn't matter what Obamas politics are it will be a black man in the most powerful position. It appears that it wouldn/t matter if Obama was satin as long as he is black --that is all that matters. Well what a choice vote for Obama or McCain. Even though i am not religiuos May God bless America- we need it.

Posted by: ryan | August 26, 2008 7:24 PM | Report abuse

Well, as a devoted democrat I am now switching to McCain. Obama is to 'green' and lacks experience. Not mention how all I hear is black people talk that if he doesn't win they are already blaming racism. Plus I am tired of hearing from both blacks and whites how it doesn't matter what Obamas politics are it will be a black man in the most powerful position. It appears that it wouldn/t matter if Obama was satin as long as he is black --that is all that matters. Well what a choice vote for Obama or McCain. Even though i am not religiuos May God bless America- we need it.

Posted by: ryan | August 26, 2008 7:23 PM | Report abuse

" First of all, Obama is not the nominee; he is the "presumptive" nominee. He is the "presumptive" nominee because he did not win the delegates necessary to be the Democratic nominee, outright. He did not win the popular votes, Clinton did. He did not win the Michigan caucus because he withdrew his name beforehand; the DNC gave him all the "undecided" votes and then had the guts to take away 4 delegate votes that Clinton won fairly and gave them to Obama. The DNC spent large amounts of money to "package and promote" Obama, to the extent that the person who might have actually pulled the party together was forced out of the campaign.

Clinton can tell us, her supporters, to back Obama. We, the voters, can do what we wish. My vote is mine, it is not Clinton's, nor Obama's nor the DNC's. I will not vote for a candidate/party that is guilty of such shenanigans as have been pulled this year. I am disgusted by the Democratic party, I am sickened by the politics that were played this year, and I am sick of people saying that I must "belly up to the bar and drink from the cup of party unity". My party let me down this year; there no longer appears to be any democracy left in the Democratic party. I am ashamed of the DNC, I am ashamed of Nancy Pelosi, I am offended by Howard Dean and Donna Brazile, and I am sick to death of the Kennedys saying that the torch is being passed from the Kennedy era to the Obama era. What a lot of rot! My vote is my own and for the first time in 40 years, my vote will be cast for a Republican. So be it.

Posted by: Yolanda | August 26, 2008 6:29 PM
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Posted by: Here Here!!! | August 26, 2008 7:19 PM | Report abuse

The ObaBots smell Hussein;'s blood in the water.
They know what a LOSER their Empty Suit Surrender Monkey really is.
And so the poor crybabies blame HRC.
And the American people.
Shame on us for not joining them on their knees and kissing Hussein's backside!

And when McCain wins they will form their usual circular firing squad.
The bitter KosKids are suddenly going to be buying guns...
what a pretty picture that will be.
Welcome to Jonestown ObaBots!


Posted by: JamesT | August 26, 2008 7:17 PM | Report abuse

The ObaBots smell Hussein;'s blood in the water.
They know what a LOSER their Empty Suit Surrender Monkey really is.
And so the poor crybabies blame HRC.
And the American people.
Shame on us for not joining them on their knees and kissing Hussein's backside!

And when McCain wins they will form their usual circular firing squad.
The bitter KosKids are suddenly going to be buying guns...
what a pretty picture that will be.
Welcome to Jonestown ObaBots!


Posted by: JamesT | August 26, 2008 7:16 PM | Report abuse

Look, we all realize that Barak Obama's supporters are mindless drones who greedily drink any word that comes from his mouth. They are his to control.

But Senator Clinton's campaign attracted a more intelligent, more independent and higher class of voter. We respect her and hold her and we appreciate the difficult position she's in at the moment. But Senator Clinton doesn't own our votes any more than the DNC does.

What everyone needs to understand and get through their heads is that we aren't going to the polls to vote for a party, to vote for a vice-president or to vote someone else's pledge. We are going there to vote for the person who is most capable of handling the job. It's not Barak Obama. It never was and it never will be. Senator Clinton can give him her endorsement and her delegates, but she can't give him her experience, her intelligence, her strength or her ability.

The DNC bet on the wrong horse. Everybody knows this race is already over for Obama. That's not Senator Clinton's fault, it's his.

We decided not to vote for Obama months ago in our state's primaries. Nothing has happened since then to change that decision. So to the rabid, mouth-foaming Obama supporters who can't contain your hatred, just get over it. It was over long before this convention and this speech.

Posted by: Lynn | August 26, 2008 7:15 PM | Report abuse

I think most all of Clinton's supporters have already made up their minds what they are going to do in the general election. Nothing she says tonight is going to change their minds. She needs to touch the bases though.

Posted by: John | August 26, 2008 7:09 PM | Report abuse

You hear a lot these days about the GOP going after Hilary supporters, and the talk goes on and on about how much they are trying to get her 18m voters. If they were truly sincere about that aspect, why not Have McCain put her on his ticket, they without a question he'll have her supporters. I support Hilary, but she lost the fight not move on I say. I have heard the idea how the DNC put Osama on the ticket, I guess we are all forgetting how the Supreme Court put Bush in the White House. What's the problem? If these are truly Hilary supporters they will support her party selection, and stop crying like some old ladies. That could be one reason we have never had a woman president, Women believe crying will get them what they want. MOVE ON, its over for now for Sen Clinton.

Posted by: kannbil | August 26, 2008 7:06 PM | Report abuse

Advice like this from "sharp Democratic operatives" is exactly why democrats lose presidential elections.

Hillary Clinton is Hillary Clinton. Republicans aren't going to vote for Obama no matter what she says. Independents are not going to vote for Obama no matter what she says. Her negatives are so high, nobody other than her supporters cares what she says. The only reason this is played up is the drama of whether she'll actively try to sink Obama's ship or just just position herself to wave and watch if it starts to sink on its own.

Back to the main point. The one thing she has to do, the only thing that matters, is she has to tell her supporters that the things SHE wants to get done, the things SHE and THEY worked so hard for, the things THEY believe the country needs, will not get done unless Obama gets elected president. If her supporters vote McCain or sit out the election, everything they had hoped to accomplish will be vetoed by McCain.

In short, she has to make it clear to her supporters that voting for McCain or sitting out the election is stabbing HER in the back.

If she does that, Obama will win. If she merely says "Obama is great, we need to be unified, blah, blah, blah," that's waving at a sinking ship.

Her followers are a cult of personality. She needs to say they are stabbing HER in the back if they do not do everything they can to make sure Obama gets elected.

(Obama's followers are a cult of personality as well, and the the exact same thing would hold true for him if Clinton had ended up winning.)

My guess is she'll fall somewhere between actively trying to sink his ship or standing by and watching it sink.

Posted by: yaaa | August 26, 2008 7:06 PM | Report abuse

"OH MY GOD ASPERGIRL IS A SPAMMER!"

Well, each passing day the white supremacists lose more power, more influence, and more of their voice. This erosion has been happening for decades. As an asper drops dead, another doesn't replace it. Their offspring tend to know better. Why do you think asper is so bitter? Her seething hatred for all things black is getting drowned out among the cacophony of tolerance. When you can barely hear your own bigoted words, you just have to repead them as loudly as possible. Maybe asper will get some converts. But what has really happened is that asper has just become more isolated and more ostracized as the aspers of the world deserve to be until the last one drops dead.

Posted by: DDAWD | August 26, 2008 7:05 PM | Report abuse

You hear a lot these days about the GOP going after Hilary supporters, and the talk goes on and on about how much they are trying to get her 18m voters. If they were truly sincere about that aspect, why not Have McCain put her on his ticket, they without a question he'll have her supporters. I support Hilary, but she lost the fight not move on I say. I have heard the idea how the DNC put Osama on the ticket, I guess we are all forgetting how the Supreme Court put Bush in the White House. What's the problem? If these are truly Hilary supporters they will support her party selection, and stop crying like some old ladies. That could be one reason we have never had a woman president, American Women believe crying will get them what they want. MOVE ON, gee.

Posted by: kannbil | August 26, 2008 7:05 PM | Report abuse

Advice like this from "sharp Democratic operatives" is exactly why democrats lose presidential elections.

Hillary Clinton is Hillary Clinton. Republicans aren't going to vote for Obama no matter what she says. Independents are not going to vote for Obama no matter what she says. Her negatives are so high, nobody other than her supporters cares what she says. The only reason this is played up is the drama of whether she'll actively try to sink Obama's ship or just just position herself to wave and watch if it starts to sink on its own.

Back to the main point. The one thing she has to do, the only thing that matters, is she has to tell her supporters that the things SHE wants to get done, the things SHE and THEY worked so hard for, the things THEY believe the country needs, will not get done unless Obama gets elected president. If her supporters vote McCain or sit out the election, everything they had hoped to accomplish will be vetoed by McCain.

In short, she has to make it clear to her supporters that voting for McCain or sitting out the election is stabbing HER in the back.

If she does that, Obama will win. If she merely says "Obama is great, we need to be unified, blah, blah, blah," that's waving at a sinking ship.

Her followers are a cult of personality. She needs to say they are stabbing HER in the back if they do not do everything they can to make sure Obama gets elected.

(Obama's followers are a cult of personality as well, and the the exact same thing would hold true for him if Clinton had ended up winning.)

My guess is she'll fall somewhere between actively trying to sink his ship or standing by and watching it sink.

Posted by: yaaa | August 26, 2008 7:05 PM | Report abuse

"OH MY GOD ASPERGIRL IS A SPAMMER!"

Well, each passing day the white supremacists lose more power, more influence, and more of their voice. This erosion has been happening for decades. As an asper drops dead, another doesn't replace it. Their offspring tend to know better. Why do you think asper is so bitter? Her seething hatred for all things black is getting drowned out among the cacophony of tolerance. When you can barely hear your own bigoted words, you just have to repead them as loudly as possible. Maybe asper will get some converts. But what has really happened is that asper has just become more isolated and more ostracized as the aspers of the world deserve to be until the last one drops dead.

Posted by: DDAWD | August 26, 2008 7:04 PM | Report abuse

You hear a lot these days about the GOP going after Hilary supporters, and the talk goes on and on about how much they are trying to get her 18m voters. If they were truly sincere about that aspect, why not Have McCain put her on his ticket, they without a question he'll have her supporters. I support Hilary, but she lost the fight not move on I say. I have heard the idea how the DNC put Osama on the ticket, I guess we are all forgetting how the Supreme Court put Bush in the White House. What's the problem? If these are truly Hilary supporters they will support her party selection, and stop crying like some old ladies. That could be one reason we have never had a woman president, American Women believe crying will get them what they want. MOVE ON, gee.

Posted by: kannbil | August 26, 2008 7:04 PM | Report abuse

"Wow. You HRC supporters are real charmers."

Posted by: DMM

That was an "HRC supporter" the same way that Pat Buchanan is an HRC suppoter; iow a false flag operation.

Posted by: Frank | August 26, 2008 7:02 PM | Report abuse

I am very new to this blog thing, I just wanted to say - very nicely said Chris -

Posted by: tkitzmiller | August 26, 2008 7:02 PM | Report abuse

Hillary has already said what she needs to say. The situation tonight is which spin machine will make the louder sound. The MSM seems to feel the need to push the "friction" between the Obamas and the Clintons.

Posted by: Earl C | August 26, 2008 7:02 PM | Report abuse

I am very new to this blog thing, I just wanted to say - very nicely said Chris -

Posted by: tkitzmiller | August 26, 2008 7:01 PM | Report abuse

Stillsearchingforthetruth:
I live here in Denver. There was a small KKK rally yesterday - I imagine they are your bretheren. One jumped out of a window 6 stories up, two others made threats against Barak. All three (the entire rally) were caught with Meth. Automatic 20 years. Was one of them your brother? You? Sounds about right.

Hillary Lost people. Let it rest. She'll have her chance again. Vote for McCain if your that pissed about it, and you'll be voting like everyother ignorant republican...with all emotion and no brain.

Face the facts:
everyone will agree that whoever wins will be a step above the 'worst president in history'. However, how big a step will depend on you.
1 step = mccain
lots = Obama

Vote for the greater good, without emotion!

Posted by: JR | August 26, 2008 7:01 PM | Report abuse

Hillary has already said what she needs to say. The situation tonight is which spin machine will make the louder sound. The MSM seems to feel the need to push the "friction" between the Obamas and the Clintons.

Posted by: Earl C | August 26, 2008 7:01 PM | Report abuse

Hillary has already said what she needs to say. The situation tonight is which spin machine will make the louder sound. The MSM seems to feel the need to push the "friction" between the Obamas and the Clintons.

Posted by: Earl C | August 26, 2008 7:00 PM | Report abuse

It amazes me that people will vote against their own best interests,like Clinton supporters voting for McCain. Whether it be Choice for women, women's rights, energy policies, environmental policies, or family value issues-McCain will not help them. His Healthcare policy? Stay well & pay your own way for a year, and if you make it till the end, he'll give you a bit of a tax break! There ya go!

Posted by: Shannon | August 26, 2008 6:58 PM | Report abuse

"Lawn Jockey in Chief and his ghetto fabulous Shaniqua.
Hussein is going down."
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Wow. You HRC supporters are real charmers.

Posted by: DMM | August 26, 2008 6:58 PM | Report abuse

OH MY GOD ASPERGIRL IS A SPAMMER!

Posted by: Frank | August 26, 2008 6:57 PM | Report abuse


Oops! I meant to say,
As I told Hillary..... I would vote for Obama even if he picked her as VP. NEVER, under any circumstance would I vote for McCain. I'll NOT write in Hillary or vote for McCain.

Posted by: NotStuckOnParties | August 26, 2008 6:56 PM | Report abuse

Steven, don't lump all Obama supporters together and tar us with the same brush. I don't appreciate it. I seriously considered supporting Hillary. I put alot of thought into who I support for president and took a while to decide.
I like that Obama has worked in a bi-partisan way throughout his career. In the state legislator he worked with Republicans to draft legislation.
I'm impressed with his work as a civil rights attorney and as a community organizer. He knows the consitution well, and has worked hands on with some of the poorest and most disenfrancised people.
I like that he's spent some time living abroad. More Americans ought to realize that America is not the center of the universe.
I like his plan to open up the congressional health care plan to Americans and make it affordable. It's not that disimilar from Hillary's either.
I like his stances on education, tax credits for families putting kids through college, and plans to give college kids tuition breaks if they do community service.
I never supported the war in Iraq and I like his plan to get our troops out as soon as possible.
Like him, I do not want to make tax-cuts for the wealthy permanent.
Re:Rezko. He donated the money he got from Rezko. Nearly every politician has some shady connections (the Clintons and McCain certainly do). I'm satisfied with how he's funraising now.
Re: Wright. I'm satisfied with the response he gave and his excellent speech on race in America. What Wright said was out of line, but he had a point that people around the world dislike America for real reasons.
There, solid reasons for liking Obama. He does inspire me, JFK also inspired people. He was also young. There is substance to back it up.
McCain pretending tax cuts for the weathly are going to trickle down and create more jobs for the working man is what I call mindless fluff.

Posted by: sfsinger | August 26, 2008 6:55 PM | Report abuse

I agree with the article and think she will hit all five points perfectly. But I do think that Obama needs to do more than he is doing to get others on board. He is the guy auditioning for the job and he needs to sell himself to the American people...enough with the long winded speeches...its time for some substance. Obama where is the Beef>?

Posted by: Eliot | August 26, 2008 6:55 PM | Report abuse

OH MY GOD HE'S ALREADY STARTED

Biden sheds tears in press conference about getting nominated VP, then rambles how much the press has meant to him personally as individuals over the years

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/08/biden-chokes-up.html

Obama has maybe a few hours left, to avert a train wreck and back off on Biden and nominate Hillary Clinton for his VP.

Biden is an absurd, pulsing, garish disaster as a VP pick.

I wonder how many points Obama's going to lose over his VP pick after all the inappropriate gaffes are totaled up. Has there ever been a VP pick that CAUSED a nominee to lose an election? LOL.

Posted by: AsperGirl | August 26, 2008 6:55 PM | Report abuse

I think it's pretty clear that the democratic party has taken Hillary's 18 million votes and tossed them on the ground where Obamaites have trampled on them. There really seems to be two democratic parties. The middle American hard working dems and the SanFran Hollywood BMW driving hardcore liberals types. Hillary supporters will stay home on November 4.

Posted by: Jmand | August 26, 2008 6:55 PM | Report abuse

Steven, don't lump all Obama supporters together and tar us with the same brush. I don't appreciate it. I seriously considered supporting Hillary. I put alot of thought into who I support for president and took a while to decide.
I like that Obama has worked in a bi-partisan way throughout his career. In the state legislator he worked with Republicans to draft legislation.
I'm impressed with his work as a civil rights attorney and as a community organizer. He knows the consitution well, and has worked hands on with some of the poorest and most disenfrancised people.
I like that he's spent some time living abroad. More Americans ought to realize that America is not the center of the universe.
I like his plan to open up the congressional health care plan to Americans and make it affordable. It's not that disimilar from Hillary's either.
I like his stances on education, tax credits for families putting kids through college, and plans to give college kids tuition breaks if they do community service.
I never supported the war in Iraq and I like his plan to get our troops out as soon as possible.
Like him, I do not want to make tax-cuts for the wealthy permanent.
Re:Rezko. He donated the money he got from Rezko. Nearly every politician has some shady connections (the Clintons and McCain certainly do). I'm satisfied with how he's funraising now.
Re: Wright. I'm satisfied with the response he gave and his excellent speech on race in America. What Wright said was out of line, but he had a point that people around the world dislike America for real reasons.
There, solid reasons for liking Obama. He does inspire me, JFK also inspired people. He was also young. There is substance to back it up.
McCain pretending tax cuts for the weathly are going to trickle down and create more jobs for the working man is what I call mindless fluff.

Posted by: sfsinger | August 26, 2008 6:54 PM | Report abuse

I think it's pretty clear that the democratic party has taken Hillary's 18 million votes and tossed them on the ground where Obamaites have trampled on them. There really seems to be two democratic parties. The middle American hard working dems and the SanFran Hollywood BMW driving hardcore liberals types. Hillary supporters will stay home on November 4.

Posted by: Jmand | August 26, 2008 6:54 PM | Report abuse

How can anyone in there right mind attack Obama for a relationship with Rezko, or his lack of experience and say that John McCain is the better choice.

He is a dirty self serving politician...The Keating 5 is all someone should have to say and he should be considered unelectable. But in the greatest country in the world the sheeple would rather bicker and argue about unimportant issues.

John Mccain does not want what is best for you, he wants what is best for someone with 7 houses, just like it we are supposed to think that the it is by chance that the son of an oil family is president and the oil companies are making more money than ever.

Please stop for two seconds and think of the greater good. That is the American way, that is what made this country great... we have lost our way, and while Obama may be flawed he is it at least not 100% motivated by the pulchritude of office and the money that he and all of his friends can make from it.

Our government now operates like the mob of old... we say it is good because we have not had a choice in some time.

The rich do not need help getting richer, they will not be the ones struggling to survive the next 4 years, it is not their kids fighting a war that was started based on half truths, they will not be foreclosed on, lose there job, or not be able to send there kids to college.

Obama is not the magic bullet, nothing is. But Mccain is definitely not the solution we need at this moment.

We need to stop this petty Hillary vs Obama squawking. It is the oldest trick in the book, muddy the issue, distract from the real question at hand, and slip by while we argue the wrong point.

Vote for anyone but Mccain, he helped a man rob the elderly, he voted against a holiday for Martin Luther King Jr, He has profited from his position of power, he has seen the Bush business model and wants in.

Do not be fooled, we as a country need to do better.

Posted by: M.Galbi | August 26, 2008 6:53 PM | Report abuse

The matter is out of her hands at this point.

Does anyone truly believe that the way she's been acting since her several-days-delayed sort-of-concession speech (not to mention how Bill of the Everlasting Ego has been acting) has NOT been an encouragement to the PUMAs and all the folks who feel somehow cheated?

The fact is the nomination was hers to lose and she managed to lose it. We've been through this all before. Obama didn't make her ignore the caucuses. Obama didn't run her finances as if she wouldn't need any money after New Hampshire. Obama didn't cloud the minds of her campaign officials -- they did that all on their own. Obama didn't loose Bill the Big Mouth on the nation to talk up his terms in office and say stupid things. If Clinton and her campaign and supporters can't recognize that they blew it this time, why would we want her as President? We already have a President that doesn't take responsibility when he messes up!

But apparently the Clintons didn't realize that, and let their supporters do all this rabble-rousing without saying anything significant about it until yesterday.

I don't know if a single speech now, no matter how strong, is going to bring the PUMAs and other unhappy folk back into the fold. And if they don't come back, then the Clintons will be -- and should be -- political toast.

I would have supported Hillary if she won the nomination -- not wildly, but she's light years better than McCain. I will be happy to support her in 2016 when Obama is done with the White House. But if Obama loses because Hillary can't do her job for the party, the only thing I would support her for is Chief Taster at the Sewage Treatment Plant.

Posted by: willythekorn | August 26, 2008 6:53 PM | Report abuse

The Pantsuit will be tanned, rested and ready in 2012!

Posted by: daman1 | August 26, 2008 6:53 PM | Report abuse

Steven, don't lump all Obama supporters together and tar us with the same brush. I don't appreciate it. I seriously considered supporting Hillary. I put alot of thought into who I support for president and took a while to decide.
I like that Obama has worked in a bi-partisan way throughout his career. In the state legislator he worked with Republicans to draft legislation.
I'm impressed with his work as a civil rights attorney and as a community organizer. He knows the consitution well, and has worked hands on with some of the poorest and most disenfrancised people.
I like that he's spent some time living abroad. More Americans ought to realize that America is not the center of the universe.
I like his plan to open up the congressional health care plan to Americans and make it affordable. It's not that disimilar from Hillary's either.
I like his stances on education, tax credits for families putting kids through college, and plans to give college kids tuition breaks if they do community service.
I never supported the war in Iraq and I like his plan to get our troops out as soon as possible.
Like him, I do not want to make tax-cuts for the wealthy permanent.
Re:Rezko. He donated the money he got from Rezko. Nearly every politician has some shady connections (the Clintons and McCain certainly do). I'm satisfied with how he's funraising now.
Re: Wright. I'm satisfied with the response he gave and his excellent speech on race in America. What Wright said was out of line, but he had a point that people around the world dislike America for real reasons.
There, solid reasons for liking Obama. He does inspire me, JFK also inspired people. He was also young. There is substance to back it up.
McCain pretending tax cuts for the weathly are going to trickle down and create more jobs for the working man is what I call mindless fluff.

Posted by: sfsinger | August 26, 2008 6:53 PM | Report abuse

To the crypto-McCainiacs (most of those posting here): I'm counting the minutes until you are crying in your chablis; Hillary is going to put John McCain in a world of hurt tonight.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 26, 2008 6:53 PM | Report abuse

Why is it that on here I don't hear or read Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton addressed correctly? Furthermore, "she" can still become our "next President" if she is written in at the elections.
"I" have not given up on her, even if she just receives my only vote. Pass that on!

And monkeys can fly out of my but.

What are you smoking and do you have enough to share??

Posted by: Anonymous | August 26, 2008 6:52 PM | Report abuse

OMG IT'S ALREADY STARTED

Biden sheds tears in press conference about getting nominated VP, then rambles how much the press has meant to him personally as individuals over the years...

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/08/biden-chokes-up.html

Posted by: AsperGirl | August 26, 2008 6:52 PM | Report abuse

Still searching for the truth is Still searching for a brain; try a Klan rally.

Posted by: Frank | August 26, 2008 6:51 PM | Report abuse

As I told Hillary..... I wouldn't vote for Obama even if he picked her as VP. NEVER, under any circumstance would I vote for him. I'll write in Hillary or vote for McCain.

Posted by: NotStuckOnParties | August 26, 2008 6:50 PM | Report abuse

Americans are not going to make the Oval Office an Affirmative Action job.
Americans are not going to elect the America Hating Hussein and Shaniqua.
Americans will send them back to the Crack House not the White House.

Well looks like you covered the salient points. Thanks for boiling this all down to a nutshell so I can make an honest and fair decisison.

But I'm still unsure. Do the purple lips make a difference? You didn't mention them and I am teetering on the edge. Help me out.

If they really are purple then that just may put me in the McCain camp.

Thanks again!

Posted by: Still searching for the truth | August 26, 2008 6:49 PM | Report abuse

New Gallup Poll:
McCain - 46%
Obama - 44%
NO BUMP FROM THE BIDEN SELECTION!

We have the Pantsuit tonight, Bubba tomorrow...who planned this debacle of a convention???

Posted by: daman1 | August 26, 2008 6:49 PM | Report abuse

On an unrelated note: I can't wait for John McCain to pick his running mate; it's a lose lose lose lose lose situation for him.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 26, 2008 6:47 PM | Report abuse

Why is it that on here I don't hear or read Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton addressed correctly? Furthermore, "she" can still become our "next President" if she is written in at the elections.
"I" have not given up on her, even if she just receives my only vote. Pass that on!

Posted by: Mikolis | August 26, 2008 6:47 PM | Report abuse

BTW, "unity" is the winner's job, not the loser's... you're all discussing a non-sequitur. Clinton's real job tonight is to stop the delegates from fighting and make Obama supporters feel better about her. It's Obama's job to create unity. Clinton can do it, but if she does, she'll take the mangle of leadership away from him.

WHAT'S IN A WORD? "UNITY" VS. "LEADERSHIP"

The lack of respect shown for Clinton and her supporters continues with the crude portrayals of us as "holdouts" and criticism as to why we're not "unifying" with Obama.

If a chunk of the base won't go to a leader, it's usually considered a leadership issue, not a "unity" problem. Given all of Obama's snubbing of Clinton, and all the work it's taken just to force him to keep with traditions for the minimum gestures of unity (helping retire the campaign debt of the runner up in a close race and putting her name in nomination and having roll call), it's clear that Obama's personal animosity and disrespect for Clinton and her supporters is more important to him than unity. That means it's a leadership issue.

"... it is usually the job of the party nominee to build unity once a vanquished rival has conceded and made the right gestures. Unless the loser happens to be a woman"

Clinton's Thankless Job - Marie Cocco, Indianapolis Star
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/08/clinton_blamed_no_matter_what.html

It's a biased and socially impoverished party when sideline observers have to job of telling sections of a disrespected and unsupported group, to "show unity" and get behind the leader. The operative word isn't "unity", which is a word that projects the responsibility for a failure of leadership onto those who fail to unite. The operative word is "leadership", the first rule of which is that the prospective leader must induce people to follow him.

What we're seeing isn't a failure to "unify" but a "leadership" failure. The disrespectful signals and snubs that Obama and his supporters constantly send out, that are critical toward the Clintons and her supporters, and that reinforce a growing consensus that he holds a personal animosity and grudge toward her, is a failure of Obama's prospective "leadership", not a failure of her followers to show "unity".

We don't like him. He doesn't have the experience, qualifications or record of action that shows he's ready to be president. The Obama camp's immature and passive aggressive behavior toward Clinton and her supporters furthermore shows poor leadership character. The glossy convention speeches and media production only address the discomfort with the Obamas' questionable adult friends, their racist, hate speech culture Church and the mysterious blank spots in their personal life history accounts. The convention themes don't address the problems of substance that make Obama a bad nominee for a general election in a time of globalization, climate change and energy supply/demand dislocations.

The Democratic party seriously needs some kind of intervention. And it would nominate more competitive candidates for general elections if the opinions and commentary of the media were muzzled during primary season, allowed only to report on news, not drive story lines and analysis. As the dominant and influential voices in the Democratic party base, the media consistently pushes the elitist, affected and shallow candidates through the Democrats' nominating process, election year after election year, and loss after loss.

Posted by: AsperGirl | August 26, 2008 6:47 PM | Report abuse

Latest from Gallup:

McCain 46%
Obama 44%
No bumpr received from Biden Selection!

We have the Pantsuit tonight, Bubba tomorrow...who planned this debacle of a convention?

Posted by: daman1 | August 26, 2008 6:45 PM | Report abuse

The most interesting aspect of this article is why was it published. In Chris's bio it is said: "He has also been a guest on CNN, Fox News Channel and MSNBC." In the fist paragraph he was "framing" Sen. Clinton in his typical style speaking of the "relationship" between the parties and the"wounds" that had been inflicted. His opeds have been published because they have supported the "Republicons" agenda. Had Senator Clinton asked for Chris's advice it would be like Senator Obama asking Senator McCain for advice on how he could win the Presidential election. The advice Chris gave makes sense and is therefore unexpected.

Are some of the military/industrial complex's hired character assassins beginning to show some remorse?

Posted by: Outrider | August 26, 2008 6:44 PM | Report abuse

To the crypto-McCainiacs (most of those posting here): Get ready to cry; Hillary is going to put John McCain in a world of hurt tonight.

Posted by: Frank | August 26, 2008 6:44 PM | Report abuse

"He inspires me" What kind of answer is that ? if you need inspiration from a political candidate that is a sad place to start.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
But McCain gives us zero inspiration as a leader. Work the math!

Posted by: Anonymous | August 26, 2008 6:44 PM | Report abuse

I hope McCain picks Ridge as his VP. I grew up and spent most of my life in PA. Everyone in PA hates Tom Ridge, he was horrible govenor, even worse at running Homeland.

Posted by: JR | August 26, 2008 6:43 PM | Report abuse

Wow, this place is full of Obama cult members, all pecking away.

You're hanging out here because this is the lowest-brow hood on the net.

Sure, Clinton will give a great, uplifting and moving speech. Chris Matthews will feel a thrill run up his leg.

Duh. Nothing to discuss.

Except... her speech won't matter, except maybe make the delegates feel better and stop fighting.

Posted by: AsperGirl | August 26, 2008 6:42 PM | Report abuse

Hey Pete Thanks for the http://www.duihelpguide.com link. I didnt know Bush had a DUI. Thats funny.

Posted by: Kanye | August 26, 2008 6:40 PM | Report abuse

oh, I forgot, she refused to be vetted until AFTER she was picked as V.P....

Posted by: Anonymous | August 26, 2008 6:39 PM | Report abuse

SHE DOESN'T NEED TO DO ANYTHING to bring the party together -- she was FORCED OUT
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She wasn't forced out as you folks wish to believe. Obama (how many more times do we need to go through this???)beat the Clinton Machine at their own game. Obama did all he could using the rules given to him by the DNC and his team outwitted and won the election. He didn't win by much but he won.

Why all you Clinton finatics continue with your irrational attitudes and behavior is really a joke.

What part of "we lost and now it's really over" don't you get????

STFU!!! You lost. It's over. Get on with your lives. Vote Republican if you feel you must but STFU!!!!

Posted by: Bob | August 26, 2008 6:39 PM | Report abuse

sfsinger,

During the primaries everytime I asked why a co-worker of mine supported Obama I got the same one line from him that everyone else who supports him has "He inspires me" What kind of answer is that ? if you need inspiration from a political candidate that is a sad place to start.

Also if I asked anything about Retzko, The Preachers or anything else he would get mad tears would come to his eyes he would then yell and scream and walk away. I tried the same thing with several other Obama supporters and got the same response.

That is an extreme response for just a discusion. Yet when He or any other Obama supporter took cheap shots at Hillary I stood there calm and collected and responded. I didn't have tears in my eyes and I could tell you exactly why I was voting for her and it wasn't because of "feelings" feelings have no place in politics. I don't want a country run by feelings, feelings get you hurt, feelings don't pay bills.

Leadership is what runs a country not ideals, actual experience in the bullpen, anyone ignorant enough to think that Obama can change the world is kidding themselves they got sold on old school politics with a new face kiss the babies and promise the world.

I know it's hard for the Bambi's to swallow, you've been bottle fed, spoon fed, and then drowned in Obama-Aid the Obama version of Kool-Aid. I can't help but think of the John Stewart episode with him with a big tub of ice cream feeding himself.

Posted by: Steven | August 26, 2008 6:39 PM | Report abuse

One more thing. If Clinton was REALLY smart, she'd give an Obama speech.

By Obama speech, I mean she gives a speech like Obama gives. She surely knows how: rhetorical, pie-in-the-sky, ivy league elite threads of thoughts woven into a greater point like the transcendence of which it explicitly speaks.

It would send thrills up Chris Matthews legs, warm the geek-spaz netroots who are flunkees from 3rd rate liberal arts programs and totally rehabilitate her with Obama's ivory tower elitist base -- and do nothing to help him with her base.

Posted by: AsperGirl | August 26, 2008 6:38 PM | Report abuse

Don't tell Hillary what to do! She has done enough for Obamaalready. He neeeeeeds her because he has done nothing to prove that he is ready to be President in these past three months. This article should have read "50 things Obama needs to do!"

Posted by: harry2 | August 26, 2008 6:38 PM | Report abuse

Hillary was not chosen as VP for the following reasons:
1. She didn't want the job
2. She said/did things during the primary that made it impossible for BO to pick her (Remember "McCain would make a better President"?)
3. Bill's baggage would have weighed down the ticket, all the stories about his lobbyist ties and miss-dealings would have been the focus.
4. She would have re-energized the right-wing
5. She and her husband have a pesky fraud trial coming up

Posted by: Anonymous | August 26, 2008 6:38 PM | Report abuse

LOL thats funny Pete thanks for the Link. I didnt know that Bush had a DUI, they actually have the arrest report. Thats funny. I will send that link out in emails. http://www.duihelpguide.com

Posted by: Kanye | August 26, 2008 6:37 PM | Report abuse

Obama himself needs to do something to win over voters. Nobody else "needs" to do anything for him. If he is a strong candidate, he will stand on his own and win. Hillary has demonstrated strong support for Obama, but she cannot "bring home" the votes of millions of Americans who do not want him in the Presidency. People voted for her to be President, not for her to tell them how to vote. She will do everything she can. But Obama's the one who needs to deliver for Democrats. And he is coming up short, short, short so far.

Posted by: LK2008 | August 26, 2008 6:37 PM | Report abuse

Mike Girma, you are so right; this election is not about Hillary, Obama, or McCain. It is about the future of all of us and our country. We can't afford to base our decision on personal pique; the stakes are just too high. This is a crucial moment and we need to be rational human beings if we want everything we value to survive.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 26, 2008 6:37 PM | Report abuse

I travel quite a bit internationally and the past 8 years I've been embarrassed to tell people I'm an American. Thank God my Spanish is well enough to pass!

The world hates us, hence terrorist attacks. Bush didn't create it, its always been there. Bush just moved it to the forefront by blasting it out of a cannon, or an aircraft carrier. McCain is Bush part 2...everyone knows that. The republicans have had their chance, for the past 8 years. The country is in its worst shape since the 1930's Great Depression economically, and the worst its ever been in the public opinion of the rest of the world. McCain will keep us on the same path...a path to more war, less money in our pockets, uncertainty of our safety. But, he'll give us tax cuts! I think its amazing that you ignorant bastards will vote for him because he's white and will cut taxes.
BE RESPONSIBLE - YOU CAN'T VOTE LIKE THAT!!!
Vote for the greater good!
The highest taxes we've ever had were under Bill Clinton, ironically when our economy was in its best shape. Who cares if we pay 20% more in taxes when we are making 40% more in income?

On another front, the republicans and mccain running the ad they did, with the Hillary voters switching to him during the DNC was brilliant....but the ad sucked. It portrayed a small group of people as either a racist or idiot.

I read these blogs and can see the same thing on both sides. The republicans are fiesty, and INCAPABLE OF INDEPENDANT THOUGHT! The left is undivided and angry. Both are a recipe for disaster.

Barak, no he doesn't have much experience, neither did JFK. He's not very old, neither was JFK. He's not stupid (like mccain who graduated at the bottom of an EASY school).
HE HAS THE ABILITY TO UNITE THE COUNTRY! If we stay divided...we will crumble.

Posted by: JR | August 26, 2008 6:36 PM | Report abuse

After reading only about 20 of these comments, I am struck by the sheer nastiness and ugliness of the statements of many of the people who make comments. I had to stop reading them as I felt a feeling of disgust creeping up on me.

Posted by: stb1 | August 26, 2008 6:36 PM | Report abuse

How ridiculous is this? What she has to do? Now the media is telling her how to speak? What more do you people want out of this woman? When are you going to ask the Obama campaign what they are going to do? It is their race now isn't it? Pretty soon we'll be hearing it's Hillary's fault for global warming.

Posted by: deedee1 | August 26, 2008 6:36 PM | Report abuse

How ridiculous is this? What she has to do? Now the media is telling her how to speak? What more do you people want out of this woman? When are you going to ask the Obama campaign what they are going to do? It is their race now isn't it? Pretty soon we'll be hearing it's Hillary's fault for global warming.

Posted by: dee dee | August 26, 2008 6:35 PM | Report abuse

Five things Hillary needs to do? Hillary doesn't need to do a g*d d*mn thing. Hillary can be as supportive of Barack as she has been to date - far more than other competitor nominees in prior elections - and continue to be the gracious, intelligent, effective woman she has been her whole life. Done.

Posted by: Scott | August 26, 2008 6:35 PM | Report abuse

Pete and the first time poster,
I'm with you. People in the McCain campaign, many of them anyway, and many of these people who froth at the mouth on internet boards are just miserable people who can't get excited about their own candidate. I have no idea what McCain is thinking airing these crazy, ill-advised ads. I give the American people more credit than he does, I don't think most take them seriously.
I believe most people in this country are ready for a change. People should vote their beliefs, but I believe that at least those on here spewing hateful bile are a vocal minority. I disaprove of any Obama support who is rude and disrespectful to others as well. There are better ways to disagree than saying "ur stupid" etc etc.
Healing the party requires both the Clintons and Obama's efforts. Hillary needs to keept being a class act like she has been this summer, and Barack needs to keep reaching out, and mend his fences with Bill Clinton, whom I personally think left a lot to be desired and was very dishonest, but hey, he was worlds better than what we have now.

Posted by: sfsinger | August 26, 2008 6:34 PM | Report abuse

How ridiculous is this. What she has to do? Now the media is telling her what to say? What do people want out of this woman, her blood? The only thing left to blame her for is global warming. You should be asking the Obama campaign what they need to do. Correct?

Posted by: dee dee | August 26, 2008 6:33 PM | Report abuse

If Obama looses the election, the county has more to loose than Obama. Obama would move on on his life as Al Gore and Kerry. He has done more than anyone could have imagined. Now it is upto us, everyone with common sense should unite behind Obama. I love Hilary and Bill. But the choice is between Obama and McCain. I suspect the people that are being harsh on Oboma on this blog are either republican or racist or both.

Posted by: Mike Girma | August 26, 2008 6:31 PM | Report abuse

It will not matter. MCCain does not have the confidence of the people in regards to the economy,or the war or healthcare. He needs to take care of his own health first.

Nothing McCain does or says matters. We don't need four more years of Bush.

McCain is unelectable.

Posted by: FDR | August 26, 2008 6:31 PM | Report abuse

Hussein can't even unite the Dems much less the country.
We all know that HRC has to put a good show for tv land
but we don't accept that the alternative to intelligent experienced leaders are the Obabots'
Lawn Jockey in Chief and his ghetto fabulous Shaniqua.
Hussein is going down.
Big Time!
He and the Nutroots and Lefty DemoLosers are snatching Defeat from the jaws of Victory all in the name of PC Gone Wild.
Americans are not going to make the Oval Office an Affirmative Action job.
Americans are not going to elect the America Hating Hussein and Shaniqua.
Americans will send them back to the Crack House not the White House.

Posted by: JamesT | August 26, 2008 6:30 PM | Report abuse

Hussein can't even unite the Dems much less the country.
We all know that HRC has to put a good show for tv land
but we don't accept that the alternative to intelligent experienced leaders are the Obabots'
Lawn Jockey in Chief and his ghetto fabulous Shaniqua.
Hussein is going down.
Big Time!
He and the Nutroots and Lefty DemoLosers are snatching Defeat from the jaws of Victory all in the name of PC Gone Wild.
Americans are not going to make the Oval Office an Affirmative Action job.
Americans are not going to elect the America Hating Hussein and Shaniqua.
Americans will send them back to the Crack House not the White House.

Posted by: JamesT | August 26, 2008 6:29 PM | Report abuse

First of all, Obama is not the nominee; he is the "presumptive" nominee. He is the "presumptive" nominee because he did not win the delegates necessary to be the Democratic nominee, outright. He did not win the popular votes, Clinton did. He did not win the Michigan caucus because he withdrew his name beforehand; the DNC gave him all the "undecided" votes and then had the guts to take away 4 delegate votes that Clinton won fairly and gave them to Obama. The DNC spent large amounts of money to "package and promote" Obama, to the extent that the person who might have actually pulled the party together was forced out of the campaign.

Clinton can tell us, her supporters, to back Obama. We, the voters, can do what we wish. My vote is mine, it is not Clinton's, nor Obama's nor the DNC's. I will not vote for a candidate/party that is guilty of such shenanigans as have been pulled this year. I am disgusted by the Democratic party, I am sickened by the politics that were played this year, and I am sick of people saying that I must "belly up to the bar and drink from the cup of party unity". My party let me down this year; there no longer appears to be any democracy left in the Democratic party. I am ashamed of the DNC, I am ashamed of Nancy Pelosi, I am offended by Howard Dean and Donna Brazile, and I am sick to death of the Kennedys saying that the torch is being passed from the Kennedy era to the Obama era. What a lot of rot! My vote is my own and for the first time in 40 years, my vote will be cast for a Republican. So be it.

Posted by: Yolanda | August 26, 2008 6:29 PM | Report abuse

I am really looking forward to Hillary tearing John McCain a new one; all these faux "Hillary supporters" (AKA McCainiacs) won't know what to do; attack back and they expose themselves.

Posted by: Frank | August 26, 2008 6:28 PM | Report abuse

I think it is pathetic how McCain is trying to interferre with the DNC convention. With these stupid ads of Hillary. He is trying to tear our party apart. The Republicans will do what ever it takes to get elected. They are even trying to make a movie about Obama's teenage years. http://www.theobamaplan.com They dont have a candidate that they are excited about so all they can do is try to smear Obama. Miserable People. Well Im gonna give a lil back to em. You can see George Bushes DUI record, and I think McCane even has a DUI? Here is the link http://www.duihelpguide.com Obama will win. Sorry Repubs. The dems will destroy your Richer Rich ticket McCain Romney.

Posted by: Pete | August 26, 2008 6:27 PM | Report abuse

why does the media & obama supporters expect hillary to do more? what more should she do? has any other candidate in a similar position done more than what she has?

She has been extremely gracious. She ran an tough campaign against all odds (media, nancy pelosi and women who had teenage crush on obama). She held herself better than even a man would have given the circumstances. Revisit John Edwards speech on the 2nd primary when he lost miserably. He was practically in tears. But, media chose to ignore it.

If what hillary has done is not enough - then so be it! After all if media can make a no-substance guy into a rock star - what hillary says or not tonight wont matter.

Posted by: zen | August 26, 2008 6:26 PM | Report abuse

It is not a cult of personality as much as Obama people want it to be. Hillary knows that and she will give a political speech.

It will not matter though. Obama does not have the confidence of the people in regards to the economy, the direction of the next 4 years or in foreign policy.

Nothing Obama does or says matters.

Obama is unelectable.

Posted by: JohnAdams1 | August 26, 2008 6:26 PM | Report abuse

Hillary Clinton has been out of the race for almost three months now. She's going to give a great speech tonight, but why does she need to "do" anything? That responsibility now belongs to Barack Obama, so please stop putting it all on Senator Clinton. If Obama can't "seal the deal" with the Democratic party, then it's his problem. SHE DOESN'T NEED TO DO ANYTHING to bring the party together -- she was FORCED OUT.

Posted by: Blueray98 | August 26, 2008 6:25 PM | Report abuse

I think it is pathetic how McCain is trying to interferre with the DNC convention. With these stupid ads of Hillary. He is trying to tear our party apart. The Republicans will do what ever it takes to get elected. They are even trying to make a movie about Obama's teenage years. http://www.theobamaplan.com They dont have a candidate that they are excited about so all they can do is try to smear Obama. Miserable People. Well Im gonna give a lil back to em. You can see George Bushes DUI record, and I think McCane even has a DUI? Here is the link http://www.duihelpguide.com Obama will win. Sorry Repubs. The dems will destroy your Richer Rich ticket McCain Romney.

Posted by: Pete | August 26, 2008 6:25 PM | Report abuse

Hillary won't have a 2012 shot because if and it is a big IF Obama gets it guranteed he will mess it up bad enough no one will ever want another Democrat in office for the next 30 years he has to carry the whole party. At the same time if he runs a a successful run and there is no strong republican candidate then relection would be likely which means 2016 by that time it will be too late. It's NOW OR NEVER

He is not ready he is a greenhorn. He will be under more pressure then anyone. One goof up, one scandal ( Nadmi Aduchi, Tony Retzko ) more information coming out after the fact he will be immediately impeached. Someone has dirt on him and there waiting to see if he gets elected then they'll sack him, he has too many dirty ties to dirty people.

Just like Edwards scandal someone kept that quiet they sat on that morsel. Someone is doing the same if the republicans lose you can gurantee they will be out with the bloodhounds.

All of Clintons dirty laundry got aired years ago, there's nothing new. Obama they have only begun to scratch the surface and when you learn what Chicago politics are really like you'll realize how much dirt he has on his hands. Expect a full investigation into his property deal with Retzko for starters thats what they pulled on Clinton and when they couldn't find anything on the land deal they changed focus of the investigation and tried to get him for whatever they could.

Posted by: Henry | August 26, 2008 6:25 PM | Report abuse

No matter whay had happened in the primaries, nomatter the slights, the insults and the attempts tp paint Bill a racist and no matter the disingenious act of insinuating that Reagan was a better president than Bill, the Clintons are proud Democrats and they will do everything in their power to help elect Obama the next POTUSA.
There is and never will be any doubt in my mind the sincerity and determination of the Clintos to do just that.
Saying and insinuating they have motives to see Obama fail is the stupidest thing for any Democrat to suggest. The Clintons are tough and they fought their whole lives for the causes they have fought and these are the same causes Obama stands for. Hilaary has said that and I believe her. Do not insult her very long years of service to the American people.
Having siad that, Obama must be reminded that he is the nominee and it is his battle to win over Clinto's 18million supporters. It is his battle to win the presidency, and Clinton WILL be there with him doing her utmost
The Clintons are Democrats yesterday, today and tomorrow so let not anyone suggest otherwise.
The rest is up to Obama.

Posted by: john silverstone | August 26, 2008 6:25 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Anonymous | August 26, 2008 6:24 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Anonymous | August 26, 2008 6:24 PM | Report abuse

"This is the same John Conyers who in 2008 was working in the Michigan statehouse to disenfranchise voters in Michigan to help Obama."

How was that done ? By following the rules agreed by everyone ? Where was the Michigan statehouse when the rules were being discussed ?

Posted by: KJ | August 26, 2008 6:24 PM | Report abuse

LOL, thanks for the link Pete, I didnt know Bush had a DUI? HAHA. DICK CHENEY has two. And McCain? lol. Im still laughin. I got to email that link. www.duihelpguide.com

Posted by: Kanye | August 26, 2008 6:22 PM | Report abuse

She needs to channel her inner Zell Miller.

Posted by: Big Ben | August 26, 2008 6:21 PM | Report abuse

He need to come out in favor of drilling like Edwards and Bill Clinton.

Posted by: Zippy in Annapolis | August 26, 2008 6:21 PM | Report abuse

CC/fix - your new confirmation method is fried. Most systems announce a change of this magnitude.

Posted by: God | August 26, 2008 6:21 PM | Report abuse

Hillary could swing from the rafters tonight yelling "Barak Obama..The next president of the UNITED STAAAATES!!!!" and no one at this point will be convinced.


Obama is way too arrogant and vindictive to have picked her. He actually believes all the hype about himself David Axelrod sold to the original grassroots Obamahead Obamatron "believers". He figures he can do it alone without Hil and Bubba. He's dead wrong.

Posted by: Dr. Dave | August 26, 2008 6:20 PM | Report abuse

Think you summed it up, Chris. And I'm sure that Hilary will give a great speech that will leave no doubt about her support - she's a good soldier who understands the game (even if some of her supporters don't). There is really no drama here. The real question, and real drama, is what kind of speech Bill will give tomorrow.

Posted by: bill | August 26, 2008 6:20 PM | Report abuse

He need to come out in favor of drilling like Edwards and Bill Clinton.

Posted by: Zippy in Annapolis | August 26, 2008 6:20 PM | Report abuse

Hillary could swing from the rafters tonight yelling "Barak Obama..The next president of the UNITED STAAAATES!!!!" and no one at this point will be convinced.


Obama is way too arrogant and vindictive to have picked her. He actually believes all the hype about himself David Axelrod sold to the original grassroots Obamahead Obamatron "believers". He figures he can do it alone without Hil and Bubba. He's dead wrong.

Posted by: Dave | August 26, 2008 6:19 PM | Report abuse

I CANT WAIT FOR ROE V WADE TO BE OVERTURNED! Think of Hills chances in '012 if that happens! LOL She's toast!

Posted by: Patrick | August 26, 2008 6:19 PM | Report abuse

Anyone who wants to attack Obama supporters for misogyny and sexism should learn to spell the word correctly.
Obama supporters do not think of him as "the one", that's a bunch of bs created by people determined to hate him, people who are frightened to see others actually taking joy from the politcal process.
People ought to look at Obama's positions and plans (they're outlined on his webpage people) and read "Audicty of Hope" before calling him a left-wing liberal extremist.
There was sexism in the media, the gender and race cards were played, but no one should try to tell me that the Obama campaign is sexist. Look at Michelle, anyone married to her is NOT afraid of strong-minded women. I'm a proud feminist Obama supporter. I'd like to see a woman president to, but it's just not going to be Hillary, at least not for the next 8 years.

Posted by: sfsinger | August 26, 2008 6:19 PM | Report abuse

I think they did Hillary wrong., If I was a Hillary supporter I would be mad too. Obama probably should of put her on the ticket. If he loses this year, It will be his pick as VP alone that casued the Democrats to lose. http://www.hotpres.com

Posted by: Kanye | August 26, 2008 6:19 PM | Report abuse

In 2004 I stood with Rep. John Conyers of Michigan on the statehouse steps to demand that ALL the votes be counted and that an investigation into voter fraud be launched in Ohio. I gave testimony. I worked very hard for John Kerry in 2004.

This is the same John Conyers who in 2008 was working in the Michigan statehouse to disenfranchise voters in Michigan to help Obama.

The Democratic party is complicit in disenfranchising voters.

It's unacceptable.

To vote for Obama is to condone what they have done. Don't do it.

The 2008 campaign debacle has been a very undemocratic process.

The DNC must be held accountable.

Do you stand for democracy or don't you?

I do.

Posted by: JK | August 26, 2008 6:19 PM | Report abuse

In 2004 I stood with Rep. John Conyers of Michigan on the statehouse steps to demand that ALL the votes be counted and that an investigation into voter fraud be launched in Ohio. I gave testimony. I worked very hard for John Kerry in 2004.

This is the same John Conyers who in 2008 was working in the Michigan statehouse to disenfranchise voters in Michigan to help Obama.

The Democratic party is complicit in disenfranchising voters.

It's unacceptable.

To vote for Obama is to condone what they have done. Don't do it.

The 2008 campaign debacle has been a very undemocratic process.

The DNC must be held accountable.

Do you stand for democracy or don't you?

I do.

Posted by: JK | August 26, 2008 6:18 PM | Report abuse

"The real Hillary supporters no that Hillary is just being a good Democrat and saying she supports Obama. We really know she does not mean it. She really hopes he will lose so she can win in 2012. Obama will be bad for America."


This comment from "John" is a perfect example of the phake constipated clintonite craze created by the GOP. It's a ruse. I guarantee there are no liberals, progressives, democrats with their head so far up HRC's butt they're willing to sabotage a democratic victory simply for the sake of 'allegiance.'

Posted by: Von | August 26, 2008 6:16 PM | Report abuse

The Republicans will do what ever it takes to get elected. They are even trying to make a movie about Obama's teenage years. http://www.theobamaplan.com They dont have a candidate that they are excited about so all they can do is try to smear Obama. Miserable People. Well Im gonna give a lil back to em. You can see George Bushes DUI record, and I think McCane even has a DUI? Here is the link http://www.duihelpguide.com Obama will win. Sorry Repubs. The dems will destroy your Richer Rich ticket McCain Romney.

Posted by: Pete | August 26, 2008 6:16 PM | Report abuse

"The real Hillary supporters no that Hillary is just being a good Democrat and saying she supports Obama. We really know she does not mean it. She really hopes he will lose so she can win in 2012. Obama will be bad for America."


This comment from "John" is a perfect example of the phake constipated clintonite craze created by the GOP. It's a ruse. I guarantee there are no liberals, progressives, democrats with their head so far up HRC's butt they're willing to sabotage a democratic victory simply for the sake of 'allegiance.'

Posted by: Von | August 26, 2008 6:16 PM | Report abuse

This approach of voting for a candidate simply because of party or color does not yield the kind of government we need now.

Clinton's approach is self-serving, with personal ambition, taking precedent over the welfare of the nation. The good news is the self indulgence aspect of both Obama and Clinton has split focus, and that serves McCain.

Finally, where has Obama been in all this? It is as if the entire burden for party unity has been placed on Clinton. If Obama is the great unifier why are we still in a unification process, that includes sending the 'goon squads' onto the convention floor to suppress any dissent?

Perhaps it is because he is not what he says he is.

Posted by: anotherview | August 26, 2008 6:15 PM | Report abuse

I loathe Obama supporters and Obama! There is nothing Hillary can do to convince me to vote for Obama...It's idiocy to think it's her job to get me to vote for Obama. It is Obama's job. I just changed my party affiliation because of the NASTY Obama supporters....The strategist say Obama can't win without PA---Well I am from PA and I just signed up to work for McCain. I have convinced all my PA relatives to bail on him. Thank you Obama supporters for making this decision so easy. And I don't want to hear the red herring about Supreme Court nominees. The democrats have been using that line since Roe!

Posted by: Jinny | August 26, 2008 6:15 PM | Report abuse

"And, geez, for a group of people that want government to be so little and unobtrusive, you sure are willing to give up a woman's rights pretty quick. " - Penny

We kind of draw the line at murdering helpless little people who can't defend themselves. Is this issue too complicated for you?

we are talking about defending the right to NOT BE KILLED. you are babbling about convenience and spending and education and blah blah blah. there actually is a fundamental right to not be murdered by another. It pretty much trumps all other requirements including cost and convenience.

Unless you are an amoral, godless Lib.

Posted by: dim Dems | August 26, 2008 6:15 PM | Report abuse

I loathe Obama supporters and Obama! There is nothing Hillary can do to convince me to vote for Obama...It's idiocy to think it's her job to get me to vote for Obama. It is Obama's job. I just changed my party affiliation because of the NASTY Obama supporters....The strategist say Obama can't win without PA---Well I am from PA and I just signed up to work for McCain. I have convinced all my PA relatives to bail on him. Thank you Obama supporters for making this decision so easy. And I don't want to hear the red herring about Supreme Court nominees. The democrats have been using that line since Roe!

Posted by: Jinny | August 26, 2008 6:15 PM | Report abuse

This approach of voting for a candidate simply because of party or color does not yield the kind of government we need now.

Clinton's approach is self-serving, with personal ambition, taking precedent over the welfare of the nation. The good news is the self indulgence aspect of both Obama and Clinton has split focus, and that serves McCain.

Finally, where has Obama been in all this? It is as if the entire burden for party unity has been placed on Clinton. If Obama is the great unifier why are we still in a unification process, that includes sending the 'goon squads' onto the convention floor to suppress any dissent?

Perhaps it is because he is not what he says he is.

Posted by: anotherview | August 26, 2008 6:14 PM | Report abuse

John Richards,
There are two basic types of folks John. Those that command respect and those that demand respect. If you want to be respected please attempt to be respectable.

Posted by: paul94611 | August 26, 2008 6:14 PM | Report abuse

John Richards,
There are two basic types of folks John. Those that command respect and those that demand respect. If you want to be respected please attempt to be respectable.

Posted by: paul94611 | August 26, 2008 6:14 PM | Report abuse

"I hope "their" people still listen to them. If some of the wild comments from your Blog readers the last few days really have been from Clinton supporters, I wonder if anything Hillary and Bill can say will change their positions."
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For a small but vocal percentage probably not. For these people (the PUMAS and so forth) the "real" Hillary Clinton has ceased to exist a long time ago replaced by a generic vagina. The ferocity of their position has de-evolved into pure crack-potism including bizarre, and unhinged consiracy theories about Obama, and frequently his wife.

At any rate, I can't believe it when these people say that they were loyal democrats who will now vote for anti-choice, anti-equal pay McCain. It simply isn't rational.

Posted by: GObama | August 26, 2008 6:13 PM | Report abuse

Very interesting reading on this blog. I am always astounded at some of the opinions and posts that I read on these blogs. For everyone that posted a positive comment, I thank God for your wisdom and sensibility. For all others, I pray for you that at some point you can see yourself in the same light as you are viewed by others. The United States has a lot of problems that must be overcome. Together we can make a difference. Divided we will fall as has been proven up to this point.

Posted by: Myfirstpost | August 26, 2008 6:13 PM | Report abuse

It's interesting IF these are hillary supporters and not republican plants saying Obama cheated where were you in 2000 and 2004!???

I'm convinced most Hillary Supporters though emotionally attached to the idea of woman being in office realize Obama is on their side and McCain isn't. I also think they know there are other female candidates out there more worthy of the position and though they appreciate the groundwork Hillary laid all parties realize she just wasn't the "one." otherwise she would have won.

Posted by: Avant Strangel | August 26, 2008 6:13 PM | Report abuse

John Richards,
There are two basic types of folks John. Those that command respect and those that demand respect. If you want to be respected please attempt to be respectable.

Posted by: paul94611 | August 26, 2008 6:13 PM | Report abuse

Tell all of those neurotic, selfish so-called "supporters" who sulked in their convention seats and glowered jealously at Michelle Obama during the next First Lady's speech to grow up and support the democratically-selected ticket or get the hell out of the Convention Hall.

Posted by: Expat | August 26, 2008 6:13 PM | Report abuse

I don't envy Hillary at all. This was a difficult primary season no matter what side you were supporting. The angst of the part of Hillary supporters is not well-founded. They need to point the finger at someone and the only one left standing was Barack so he has to be the fall guy. It ain't necessarily so! The surge of sexist comments were initiated by the media and fanned beyond believability so much so that anyone who said anything in dispute of her campaign was regarded as another culprit. This is perhaps what brought into play the 'kitchen sink' which is usually parsed and thrown in a general election and not necessarily at the lone opponent in a primary. No one, candidate, staff, nor media, is without blame for the rather bruising primary season. What needs to be done is for EVERYONE to pick up the pieces and put Humpty Dumpty together again! It's doable...especially when you really understand what is at stake. Not only Roe v. Wade, but education, the economy, our veterans well-being, the future of this nation. It's more than just you or me, it's that infant lying in a crib, male or female, who given the courage to dream, experience the American dream which we may have at one time in our lives, can have the chance to make their mark on the world...whether it be in science or industry, mathematics or education, it doesn't matter. THESE ARE THE THINGS BARACK AND HILLARY are fighting for! To deny one for the sake of pure spite will net you at best nothing in return. We need to come together, let each one of us help one another heal and walk the path both Barack and Hillary have laid out, because they will be there together fighting with the adversary because they are no longer adversary. These are the things they both need to express individually and collectively. My hope is they will and be successful.

Posted by: eww | August 26, 2008 6:13 PM | Report abuse

The Clintons were punished by the media and Obama was given a free ride in the media limosine.
Now, the media has lost their credibility with half the Democrat Party. They never had credibility in the Republican Party because they have screwed the Republicans for years.
Obama is an empty suit and now he will have to deal with the Clintons.
McCain will be elected!

Posted by: Sara | August 26, 2008 6:12 PM | Report abuse

Hillary Clinton should be the nominee, she's qualified, electable, and has already won the popular vote, winning MORE votes than ANY candidate of ANY party in history! Facts. Obama's meaningless "caucus" wins of a few people do not compare the enormous primary wins of millions for Hillary in all of the must win states for the Dems in November. Obama won exactly NONE of these states. He's a loser and will drag the entire Dem ticket down with him. This was supposed to our year and Obama has destroyed the DEmocratic party in 2008 with the help of Ted Kennedy (I wish Kennedy all the best, healthwise)

The Dems are very foolish if they nominate the "one" candidate who cannot win, Barack Obama who is unqualified, unelectable and should not be a U.S. Senator let alone President. Obama has NO record of accomplishment, NONE. He's an arrogant fraud.

The superdelegates who will decide this nomination as neither Hillary or Obama earned enough delegates out right, should vote for the strongest candidate in November, Hillary Clinton. John Edwards is a disgusting pig for staying in the race to destroy Hillary.

In 1932, FDR came into the DNC convention 90 delegates short of the required number needed to secure the nomination out right and FDR won the Democratic nomination in 1932 on the 4th ballot! Now, THAT was democracy in action! Bill and Hillary are the greatest political success story of the Democratic party since FDR and Eleanor Roosevelt! Show some respect! They deserve it and the Dem base wants Hillary, not Obama shoved down our throats in a very, very undemocratic process.

The DNC should worry much more about the women's vote of the party 58% and worry less about the minority black vote 11% of the party. Women are the majority voting block and women want Hillary. It's Hillary or McCain. The DNC must be held accountable for their failure to denounce the rampant sexism, racism, classism and voter disenfranchisement continually interjected into this 2008 campaign debacle by Barack Obama, his campaign, his nasty supporters and ALL media. Stop with the death threats, already, creepy Chicago thugs!

Why are Obama and DNC afraid of democracy in 2008? Losing, perhaps? Let's DEMAND that the votes be counted, Hillary can and should win this nomination. Hillary has earned it.

Obama owes Bill and Hillary Clinton and ALL Americans an apology. Obama's arrogant attempts to denigrate as former President of his OWN party (Bill Clinton, the ONLY two two Dem President since FDR) are unacceptable.

Obama reminds me of his "mentor" Sen. TEd Kennedy, who in 1980 destroyed the Democratic party by causing the defeat of a sitting President Carter, Kennedy arrogantly tried to take down a sitting President of his OWN party thus causing the party to split and defeat in 1980. Sound familiar? Kennedy is NOT nor has ever been the face of the party, Kennedy has always been out of the mainstream of the Dem party, 2008 is no different. Kennedy is part of the old, liberal, loser elites of the old Dem party who lost power to the Clintons and they want it back. Obama is their tool. Too bad it won't work. Obama is a loser, unelectable and unqualified.

Put your country first and party second. It's Hillary or McCain 2008 and Hillary 2012.

Bill and Hillary Clinton deserve respect. They have earned it with a lifetime of public service that continues despite the unrelenting 24/7 attacks in ALL media. Obama and the media need to show respect.

Throw Obama under that already crowed bus with the rest of his creepy pals. You are judged by the company you keep and Obama has failed the test, big time.

Posted by: JK | August 26, 2008 6:12 PM | Report abuse

John Richards,
Please, looking at the world through a bend glass stem is not good for you.
There are two basic types of folks John. Those that command respect and those that demand respect. If you want to be respected please attempt to be respectable.

Posted by: paul94611 | August 26, 2008 6:12 PM | Report abuse

1. Obama=Hillary
2. McCain=Bush

Those are the two choices. I don't see what's so hard.

Posted by: chris | August 26, 2008 6:11 PM | Report abuse

The Clintons were punished by the media and Obama was given a free ride in the media limosine.
Now, the media has lost their credibility with half the Democrat Party. They never had credibility in the Republican Party because they have screwed the Republicans for years.
Obama is an empty suit and now he will have to deal with the Clintons.
McCain will be elected!

Posted by: Sara | August 26, 2008 6:11 PM | Report abuse

Hillary Clinton should be the nominee, she's qualified, electable, and has already won the popular vote, winning MORE votes than ANY candidate of ANY party in history! Facts. Obama's meaningless "caucus" wins of a few people do not compare the enormous primary wins of millions for Hillary in all of the must win states for the Dems in November. Obama won exactly NONE of these states. He's a loser and will drag the entire Dem ticket down with him. This was supposed to our year and Obama has destroyed the DEmocratic party in 2008 with the help of Ted Kennedy (I wish Kennedy all the best, healthwise)

The Dems are very foolish if they nominate the "one" candidate who cannot win, Barack Obama who is unqualified, unelectable and should not be a U.S. Senator let alone President. Obama has NO record of accomplishment, NONE. He's an arrogant fraud.

The superdelegates who will decide this nomination as neither Hillary or Obama earned enough delegates out right, should vote for the strongest candidate in November, Hillary Clinton. John Edwards is a disgusting pig for staying in the race to destroy Hillary.

In 1932, FDR came into the DNC convention 90 delegates short of the required number needed to secure the nomination out right and FDR won the Democratic nomination in 1932 on the 4th ballot! Now, THAT was democracy in action! Bill and Hillary are the greatest political success story of the Democratic party since FDR and Eleanor Roosevelt! Show some respect! They deserve it and the Dem base wants Hillary, not Obama shoved down our throats in a very, very undemocratic process.

The DNC should worry much more about the women's vote of the party 58% and worry less about the minority black vote 11% of the party. Women are the majority voting block and women want Hillary. It's Hillary or McCain. The DNC must be held accountable for their failure to denounce the rampant sexism, racism, classism and voter disenfranchisement continually interjected into this 2008 campaign debacle by Barack Obama, his campaign, his nasty supporters and ALL media. Stop with the death threats, already, creepy Chicago thugs!

Why are Obama and DNC afraid of democracy in 2008? Losing, perhaps? Let's DEMAND that the votes be counted, Hillary can and should win this nomination. Hillary has earned it.

Obama owes Bill and Hillary Clinton and ALL Americans an apology. Obama's arrogant attempts to denigrate as former President of his OWN party (Bill Clinton, the ONLY two two Dem President since FDR) are unacceptable.

Obama reminds me of his "mentor" Sen. TEd Kennedy, who in 1980 destroyed the Democratic party by causing the defeat of a sitting President Carter, Kennedy arrogantly tried to take down a sitting President of his OWN party thus causing the party to split and defeat in 1980. Sound familiar? Kennedy is NOT nor has ever been the face of the party, Kennedy has always been out of the mainstream of the Dem party, 2008 is no different. Kennedy is part of the old, liberal, loser elites of the old Dem party who lost power to the Clintons and they want it back. Obama is their tool. Too bad it won't work. Obama is a loser, unelectable and unqualified.

Put your country first and party second. It's Hillary or McCain 2008 and Hillary 2012.

Bill and Hillary Clinton deserve respect. They have earned it with a lifetime of public service that continues despite the unrelenting 24/7 attacks in ALL media. Obama and the media need to show respect.

Throw Obama under that already crowed bus with the rest of his creepy pals. You are judged by the company you keep and Obama has failed the test, big time.

Posted by: JK | August 26, 2008 6:11 PM | Report abuse

I have been an Obama supporter ever since the speech Kennedy gave when he endorsed Obama and Obama's speech at the same event. I felt a fire that I have felt since Bobby Kennedy was running. My wife, on the other hand, was a supporter of Hillary, voted that way in the Ohio primary, and based her decision upon presumed experience gap between Hillary and Obama. However, when Obama became the presumptive Democrat nominee, she became a firm Obama backer, just as I would have become a Hillary backer had the situation been reverse.

This McCain is not the 2000 McCain and Democrat who are thinking of voting for him because his views are closer to Hillary's than Obama's haven't been paying too much attention to what McCain is saying now. I have heard some say that McCain is saying what he is to get the Republican vote. They are wrong. McCain in saying was he is to get the Democrat vote. He is trying to define Obama so that those undecided voters and those Democrats who supported Hillary will decide that he is better a better choice than Obama.

Posted by: John Franks | August 26, 2008 6:11 PM | Report abuse

Clinton needs to attack McCain. She needs to inspire her supporters to direct their anger and bitternness at him, his policies and his mis-use of her statements. She needs not only to enthusiastically embrace everything-Obama, but she needs to tell her supporters that supporting her requires them to see McCain for what he is: a rehash of Bush, an abandonment of all things Hillary. the emperor has no clothes, and in this case McCain is not an independent maverick who is an adequate substitute for her... he is a Bushie. She needs to really get insulted by people who would insinuate that supporting McCain is after supporting her is better than supporting Obama. She needs to be affronted.

Posted by: MassamachusettsWoman | August 26, 2008 6:11 PM | Report abuse

Hillary Clinton should be the nominee, she's qualified, electable, and has already won the popular vote, winning MORE votes than ANY candidate of ANY party in history! Facts. Obama's meaningless "caucus" wins of a few people do not compare the enormous primary wins of millions for Hillary in all of the must win states for the Dems in November. Obama won exactly NONE of these states. He's a loser and will drag the entire Dem ticket down with him. This was supposed to our year and Obama has destroyed the DEmocratic party in 2008 with the help of Ted Kennedy (I wish Kennedy all the best, healthwise)

The Dems are very foolish if they nominate the "one" candidate who cannot win, Barack Obama who is unqualified, unelectable and should not be a U.S. Senator let alone President. Obama has NO record of accomplishment, NONE. He's an arrogant fraud.

The superdelegates who will decide this nomination as neither Hillary or Obama earned enough delegates out right, should vote for the strongest candidate in November, Hillary Clinton. John Edwards is a disgusting pig for staying in the race to destroy Hillary.

In 1932, FDR came into the DNC convention 90 delegates short of the required number needed to secure the nomination out right and FDR won the Democratic nomination in 1932 on the 4th ballot! Now, THAT was democracy in action! Bill and Hillary are the greatest political success story of the Democratic party since FDR and Eleanor Roosevelt! Show some respect! They deserve it and the Dem base wants Hillary, not Obama shoved down our throats in a very, very undemocratic process.

The DNC should worry much more about the women's vote of the party 58% and worry less about the minority black vote 11% of the party. Women are the majority voting block and women want Hillary. It's Hillary or McCain. The DNC must be held accountable for their failure to denounce the rampant sexism, racism, classism and voter disenfranchisement continually interjected into this 2008 campaign debacle by Barack Obama, his campaign, his nasty supporters and ALL media. Stop with the death threats, already, creepy Chicago thugs!

Why are Obama and DNC afraid of democracy in 2008? Losing, perhaps? Let's DEMAND that the votes be counted, Hillary can and should win this nomination. Hillary has earned it.

Obama owes Bill and Hillary Clinton and ALL Americans an apology. Obama's arrogant attempts to denigrate as former President of his OWN party (Bill Clinton, the ONLY two two Dem President since FDR) are unacceptable.

Obama reminds me of his "mentor" Sen. TEd Kennedy, who in 1980 destroyed the Democratic party by causing the defeat of a sitting President Carter, Kennedy arrogantly tried to take down a sitting President of his OWN party thus causing the party to split and defeat in 1980. Sound familiar? Kennedy is NOT nor has ever been the face of the party, Kennedy has always been out of the mainstream of the Dem party, 2008 is no different. Kennedy is part of the old, liberal, loser elites of the old Dem party who lost power to the Clintons and they want it back. Obama is their tool. Too bad it won't work. Obama is a loser, unelectable and unqualified.

Put your country first and party second. It's Hillary or McCain 2008 and Hillary 2012.

Bill and Hillary Clinton deserve respect. They have earned it with a lifetime of public service that continues despite the unrelenting 24/7 attacks in ALL media. Obama and the media need to show respect.

Throw Obama under that already crowed bus with the rest of his creepy pals. You are judged by the company you keep and Obama has failed the test, big time.

Posted by: JK | August 26, 2008 6:10 PM | Report abuse

Clinton needs to attack McCain. She needs to inspire her supporters to direct their anger and bitternness at him, his policies and his mis-use of her statements. She needs not only to enthusiastically embrace everything-Obama, but she needs to tell her supporters that supporting her requires them to see McCain for what he is: a rehash of Bush, an abandonment of all things Hillary. the emperor has no clothes, and in this case McCain is not an independent maverick who is an adequate substitute for her... he is a Bushie. She needs to really get insulted by people who would insinuate that supporting McCain is after supporting her is better than supporting Obama. She needs to be affronted.

Posted by: MassamachusettsWoman | August 26, 2008 6:10 PM | Report abuse

You just listed the 5 things she's not going to do. 18 million Dimocrats can't be wrong, right? Obama's an obvious idiot who is playing with fire. She'll have turned the convention upside down on him by the time he shows up. You go Hilly. Burn the Dimocrat party to the ground.

Posted by: Darwin_rules | August 26, 2008 6:09 PM | Report abuse

I doubt any really care they are just opportunists who are using this Hillary issue to forward their own agendas. These people would never get a shot on Larry King or any main stream media normally. The one woman based in Miami, I forget her name is a joke. To her this is an opportunity to make a buck with her website but it doesn't seem to be working. The last rally she formed she got 4 as in "4" to show up. This Hillary thing is completely overblown.
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How do Hillary supporters not understand this: If Obama doesn't win, Hillary will never be elected to anything ever again. Republicans hate her, so she needs the whole Democratic party to win, which she can get only if she hasn't destroyed the dreams of 80% of them.

I was actually a Hillary supporter. I voted for her in the NH primary. I would never support her again if this divisiveness forfeits our future to a McCain presidency.

What kind of strange vacuum do you think you're living in? We're all in this together. You have the right to sabotage our cause out of spite, but to think anyone would support you later is lunacy.

From now on I'm choosing to believe this: None of these people were actually Hillary supporters or Democrats at all. They voted in open primaries which allow conservatives. It's all a giant conspiracy to ruin Hillary's name. It worked.
Posted by: Doug Christian | August 26, 2008 6:02 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | August 26, 2008 6:09 PM | Report abuse

HRCstilltheone. Get over yourself, the arrogant entitlement that characterized the early Clinton campaign is showing. Barack is no saint, but he did not steal the primaries from Hillary, he won them!
This is all of our futures at stake, including Hillary's. No true liberal or centrist would sacrifice us all over a personal grudge.
Notstuckonparties- I'm an independent too for the record. All your vitrol is addressed on sources like fightthesmears.com. It's all lies and manipulations so spare us your ranting.

Posted by: sfsinger | August 26, 2008 6:08 PM | Report abuse

svreader...
How have you been doing?

Posted by: paul94611 | August 26, 2008 6:08 PM | Report abuse

HRCstilltheone. Get over yourself, the arrogant entitlement that characterized the early Clinton campaign is showing. Barack is no saint, but he did not steal the primaries from Hillary, he won them!
This is all of our futures at stake, including Hillary's. No true liberal or centrist would sacrifice us all over a personal grudge.
Notstuckonparties- I'm an independent too for the record. All your vitrol is addressed on sources like fightthesmears.com. It's all lies and manipulations so spare us your ranting.

Posted by: sfsinger | August 26, 2008 6:08 PM | Report abuse

Wait, I changed my mind. I simply don't know. that and many other things are way above me. Especially economics though.

Posted by: Barack the impaler | August 26, 2008 6:07 PM | Report abuse

Five Things Hillary Clinton Needs To Do Tonight

1. Explain what happened to Florida and Michigan.

2. Ask whom do you want to answer that phone at 3:00AM.

3. Ask for a recount.

4. Explain that Bill is actually a black man.

5. Accept the nomination for President!!!!

WHOOOHOOOO!!! Go Hillary!!!!

Posted by: Jmand | August 26, 2008 6:07 PM | Report abuse

Unfortunately the Obamabots ruled the internet by standing 24/7 ready to drop in on any forum and vehelmently make there candidate seem like a masiah. It is absoutely disgusting how they now bark at all the clinton supporters and act exactly like the extremists we seek to root out in other nations but yet it is OK for the leftist agenda to act in an extremism manor. We have the extreme right (McCain) and the extreme left (Obama) the only front and center person was Clinton.

Face it you Obamabots blew it once you decided to disrespect the Clinton supporters, disrespect Mrs. Clinton who husband was a former president of the United States. You referred to her and her supporters in masgonystic tones, and other negative sexist remarks. You all have proven you will go well beyond reasonable means to lash out at anyone that doesn't support your little Obama extremism world. You are an abusive and oppresive group yet you cry if anyone does it to you. Which is the consistent M.O. of any extremist group.

Realize John McCain is in.. why do you think Obama is in a dead heat he always was and always has been a shoe-in for John McCain afterall Obama has the Bush bloodline. Look it up it was reported on national news!

Obama was put into the political limelight to divide this nation further. He loses the general election it will be blamed on racist folks from PA, WY, KY, etc.. and cause bigger racial tensions... I have already heard this rheotoric...

He wins and anything happens to him it will be blamed on the white society and god forbid it ends up being someone white this nation will destablize in seconds with riots, death, and destruction.

Anyway you look at it it's a loose loose situation. Why this country would put somebody front and center that could cause this country to tear itself apart is beyond me.

On a final note Clinton would have crushed McCain in a general election as she was able to reach across the aisle.. Obama cannot and everyone knows that he's too extreme for core republicans who would have broke for Hillary I know a lot of die hard Bush supporters that perferred Hillary to McCain or Obama.

Posted by: John Richards | August 26, 2008 6:07 PM | Report abuse

Hillary is really in a terrible spot. She knows that the Obamas really hate her, especially Michelle (and Michelle is probably the reason Hillary is not on the ticket as the VP nominee). Too bad she can't just look Obama in the eye and say what he said to her "People really like you, Barack" very defient and downgranding. She should spit on both of them.

Posted by: Millie | August 26, 2008 6:06 PM | Report abuse

Why should Hillary do the 'right thing' by Obama? As a Hillary supporter, I see John McCain as a more moderate and appropriate choice than I do Obama. McCain trumps Obama in experience, judgment, past accomplishment, and policy in my opinion. Obama brings only nebulous claims of 'change', lacks specificity, and consistently demonstrates both a lack of readiness for the position as well as a penchant for lying.

Obamas' leftist tendencies are more than I'm willing to swallow and its frustrating to me as a life-long democrat that I'm having to make this choice.

Still, I'll vote McCain and feel good about it. I'll also help to put the never-ending race-baiting tactics of the Obama campaign to bed once and for all. 4 or 8 years of that nonsense...

no thanks.

Posted by: Robert Simms | August 26, 2008 6:06 PM | Report abuse

Unfortunately the Obamabots ruled the internet by standing 24/7 ready to drop in on any forum and vehelmently make there candidate seem like a masiah. It is absoutely disgusting how they now bark at all the clinton supporters and act exactly like the extremists we seek to root out in other nations but yet it is OK for the leftist agenda to act in an extremism manor. We have the extreme right (McCain) and the extreme left (Obama) the only front and center person was Clinton.

Face it you Obamabots blew it once you decided to disrespect the Clinton supporters, disrespect Mrs. Clinton who husband was a former president of the United States. You referred to her and her supporters in masgonystic tones, and other negative sexist remarks. You all have proven you will go well beyond reasonable means to lash out at anyone that doesn't support your little Obama extremism world. You are an abusive and oppresive group yet you cry if anyone does it to you. Which is the consistent M.O. of any extremist group.

Realize John McCain is in.. why do you think Obama is in a dead heat he always was and always has been a shoe-in for John McCain afterall Obama has the Bush bloodline. Look it up it was reported on national news!

Obama was put into the political limelight to divide this nation further. He loses the general election it will be blamed on racist folks from PA, WY, KY, etc.. and cause bigger racial tensions... I have already heard this rheotoric...

He wins and anything happens to him it will be blamed on the white society and god forbid it ends up being someone white this nation will destablize in seconds with riots, death, and destruction.

Anyway you look at it it's a loose loose situation. Why this country would put somebody front and center that could cause this country to tear itself apart is beyond me.

On a final note Clinton would have crushed McCain in a general election as she was able to reach across the aisle.. Obama cannot and everyone knows that he's too extreme for core republicans who would have broke for Hillary I know a lot of die hard Bush supporters that perferred Hillary to McCain or Obama.

Posted by: Common Sense | August 26, 2008 6:06 PM | Report abuse

Clinton needs to unload on Mccain. Rip him to pieces. Tear out Mccains stumpy little arms and bash in his pumpkin face with them. She is the one to do it. Tell these people what the stakes are in this election and it is not about her of Obama but about the country and the party.

Posted by: pop a smoke | August 26, 2008 6:05 PM | Report abuse

I agree Penny. We should go through all the orphanages and just exterminate them all.

Love

Barack "life begins at noon" Obama

Posted by: Anonymous | August 26, 2008 6:02 PM | Report abuse

How do Hillary supporters not understand this: If Obama doesn't win, Hillary will never be elected to anything ever again. Republicans hate her, so she needs the whole Democratic party to win, which she can get only if she hasn't destroyed the dreams of 80% of them.

I was actually a Hillary supporter. I voted for her in the NH primary. I would never support her again if this divisiveness forfeits our future to a McCain presidency.

What kind of strange vacuum do you think you're living in? We're all in this together. You have the right to sabotage our cause out of spite, but to think anyone would support you later is lunacy.

From now on I'm choosing to believe this: None of these people were actually Hillary supporters or Democrats at all. They voted in open primaries which allow conservatives. It's all a giant conspiracy to ruin Hillary's name. It worked.

Posted by: Doug Christian | August 26, 2008 6:02 PM | Report abuse

NotStuckOnParties ~ I have a mind of my own. You are not working with much of a mind huh?

Posted by: laj82 | August 26, 2008 6:01 PM | Report abuse

THE UNHEARD FROM MILLIONS ARE STARTING TO LOOK CAREFULLY AT OBAMA'S RECORD-AND THEY GET REALLY SCARED BY WHAT THEY AREN'T SEEING-UNPRECEDENTED THAT A CANDIDATE ACTUALLY LOSES POINTS AFTER ANNOUNCING THE VP CANDIDATE!

August 26, 2008

Gallup Daily: No Bounce for Obama in Post-Biden TrackingMcCain creeps ahead, 46% to 44%

USA Election 2008 Gallup Daily Americas Northern America PRINCETON, NJ

-- It's official: Barack Obama has received no bounce in voter support out of his selection of Sen. Joe Biden to be his vice presidential running mate.

Gallup Poll Daily tracking from Aug. 23-25, the first three-day period falling entirely after Obama's Saturday morning vice presidential announcement, shows 46% of national registered voters backing John McCain and 44% supporting Obama, not appreciably different from the previous week's standing for both candidates. This is the first time since Obama clinched the nomination in early June, though, that McCain has held any kind of advantage over Obama in Gallup Poll Daily tracking.

Posted by: Arrabbiato | August 26, 2008 6:01 PM | Report abuse

Hillary will be magnanimous and will do as much as she can to get her supporters to campaign and vote for Obama, because she is smart enough to realize that if Obama loses she will be blamed regardless of how hard she tries to help him win.

Hillary also is smart enough to realize, as many of us who did not originally support Obama have realized, that even though Obama may not be the best candidate the Democratic party has to offer he is a lot better than McCain. It's a shame that so many of her supporters apparently don't understand that.

Posted by: Taikan | August 26, 2008 6:01 PM | Report abuse

I was a Hillary Supporter who switched to Obama as it became clear Obama would be the nominee. I am ashamed of the Clinton supporters who will not get behind Obama and help win this election. Their position appears petty and hypocritical in that it is self defeating. Success for the Democrats (or for any group of people tied together by a common cause be it a Labor Union, a Marriage, a Sports Team) requires a degree of compromise that these folks are not magnanimous enough to afford.

Posted by: Chris Phipps | August 26, 2008 6:00 PM | Report abuse

the brain damaged anonymous coward has returned.

aka:
IC
drindl
sphinctator
LOUD and DUMB
Kin of Kos
and many other personalities.

Pitiful.

Posted by: old guard | August 26, 2008 6:00 PM | Report abuse

Wow, Jake, better start chillin' before that baby comes! With a temper like that you never know what kind of damage you could do.
I am a mother of two. I would not have had an abortion but I cannot make that decision for others. That's the heart of the problem, Jake. You as a man have no right to tell a woman what she should or should not do with her body. You claim to have this sanctity of life thing wrapped so what's the stand on the death penalty? On the war? Life is life, right?
So when these babies are born, do you right to life people adopt, have a plan to care for all the kids in foster care? It's a lifetime commitment, yet you guys always focus on the beginning, kinda dropping the ball on the whole middle and end part.
And, geez, for a group of people that want government to be so little and unobtrusive, you sure are willing to give up a woman's rights pretty quick. Not too shocking actually.
It's a kneejerk, reactionary topic that the right wing like to toss out to get blood boiling. Yawn.
As soon as we have SEX education in school, access to contraception, access to real medical care and education, then we can start talking about abortion.
Until you have a uterus your opinion means nothing.
Good luck with the baby, they are the most amazing gifts we humans will ever be entrusted with.

Posted by: Penny | August 26, 2008 5:59 PM | Report abuse

NotStuckOnParties ~ I have a mind of my own. You are not working with much...

Posted by: laj82 | August 26, 2008 5:59 PM | Report abuse

International Court of Justice (The Hague) Wish To Speak With McBush, Cheney, Rice, D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire in January for War Crimes.

GOP Republican Wall Street Get Rich By Selling America Party started the illegal Iraq War. Now the GOP Republicans are totally obligated to immediately stop the illegal Iraq War.

Mumbles D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire came into conflict with higher-ranking personnel and did not always obey the rules, which contributed to a very low class rank (894 of 899) that he did not aim to improve. D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire earned a reputation as a partying man. The planes he was flying crashed twice and once collided with power lines.

GOP Republican McSame, McBush, Cheney, and Rice are paying themselves and their Undeservedly Super Rich OOIIILLLL friends millions of Treasury dollars in bonuses as Average Americans suffer and watch their children future decline. GOP Republicans have caused trillions of dollar debts outsourcing Our Country to China, Saudi Arabia and India. I see nothing patriotic about GOP Republicans destroying the lives of millions of Americans in the name of Wall Street Undeservedly Super Rich speculative greed.

GOP Republican D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush Have Many Many Many Crisis To Answer For
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III Trillion Dollar Treasury Robbing War Crisis
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III Multi-Trillion Dollar Deficit Crisis (Disgrace)
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III Democracy Crisis
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III American People Crisis
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III U.S. Constitution Crisis
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III Barrel of OOIIILLLL Crisis (Democrat $24 changed to GOP Republican $145)
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III Gallon of Gasoline Crisis (Democrat $1.25 changed to GOP Republican $4.50)
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III GOP Republican Wall Street OOIIILLLL Speculation Crisis
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III Wall Street Undeservedly Super-capitalism cannibalistic Crisis
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III Wall Street selling America to Saudi Arabia Crisis
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III Wall Street selling America to India Crisis
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III Wall Street selling America to China Crisis
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III Iraq War Crisis
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III Relations with Iran Crisis
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III Relations with North Korea Crisis
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III Relations with China Crisis
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III Healthcare Crisis
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III U.S. Economics Crisis
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III U.S. Employment Crisis
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III Out Sourcing American Jobs Crisis
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III Auto Industry Crisis
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III Airline Industry Crisis
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III Travel Crisis
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III Flood Levee Crisis
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III Energy Crisis
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III Overseas Tax Haven Rich Tax Avoidance Crisis
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III Wage Gap Crisis
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III Lack of Employees’ Rights Crisis
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III 2000 Election False Vote Count Crisis
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III 2004 Election False Vote Count Crisis
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III Dubious War on Drugs Crisis
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III Education Crisis
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III School Shooting Crisis
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III GOP Republican Drug Money Laundering Crisis
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III GOP Republican Drug Cartel Kickbacks Crisis
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III Prime Time Soft Pornography Crisis
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III GOP Republican Wall Street Mad Cow Crisis
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III Poison Water Crisis
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III Poison Air Crisis
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III Poison Agriculture Crisis (Asia won’t accept our food)
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III Rich GOP Republican Treasury Robbery Crisis
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III American People Lack Confidence in Government Crisis
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III World Chaos Crisis
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III Food Price Crisis
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III Global Warming Crisis
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III Disasters in America Crisis
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III Katrina Crisis
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III Racist Talk Radio Crisis
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III Racist O’Reilly, Fox News, The New Yorker Crisis
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III Housing Crisis
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III U.S. Dollar Crisis
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III Deceptive Administration Crisis
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III Negative World Perception Crisis
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III Iraq War Crisis
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III Iraq War Crisis
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III Iraq War Crisis
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III Corporate Welfare Robbing the US Treasury (American People)
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III Wall Street selling American Big Banks to foreign billionaires Crisis giving foreign sweatshop billionaires direct votes in Our Economy, Way of Life and Government.
Mission Accomplish D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III For Trying To Destroy Our Democracy and Economy

The Multiple Crisis that are hurting OUR COUNTRY are the fault of the Administration, Supreme Court, Congress and especially the GOP Republican Party for allowing GOP Republican International War Suspects McBush, Cheney, and Rice to lie, cheat and steal their way into the Highest Office on Earth and remain there for eight years. The Entire World thinks that America was ridiculous for allowing GOP Republican criminals and scoundrels to steal their way into office not once but twice. If you locked three Rock Wellers in a jewelry shop for eight years without Undeservedly Supervision, what would you expect upon returning? Why are Americans surprised that the three scoundrels McBush, Cheney, and Rice have smashed up the place and almost destroyed America in eight years? You should have expected bad things from those criminals eight years ago and stopped them back then. Instead of stopping the trillion dollar criminals, the media (Wacko Bill Meltdown O’Reilly, Newsmax, O’Reilly Racist Factor, FOX News, Undeservedly Super-racist Sean Hannity, Glen Beck, The New Yorker) went after the Dixie Chicks, Paris Hilton, Rosie O’Donnel, and Britney Spears. How stupid.

Now the media (Wacko Bill Meltdown O’Reilly, Newsmax, O’Reilly Racist Factor, FOX News, Undeservedly Super-racist Sean Hannity, Glen Beck, The New Yorker) pursues Boy George, because he might be a threat. What an incredibly stupid, stupid, and racist media we have. The World is watching and laughing at our stupid media and defunct Wall Street robber barons greedy selfish shortsighted Undeservedly Supercapitalistic system. Since when does the prerequisite for becoming the President includes being a poor military academy student, out of action POW, computer illiterate, senior citizen and husband of a recovering drug addict / thief / criminal? D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire is qualified to be a former POW and Mrs. McThief is qualified to be a recovering drug addict. What a pair and example for our youth. Romney the compulsive liars will not help our country as vice president. I say force the GOP Republicans to fix their gigantic GOP Republican Undeservedly Supercapitalism mess in one year or dissolve the defunct and failing GOP Republican Wall Street Get Rich By Selling America Party. The defunct GOP Republican Wall Street Get Rich By Selling America Party started the illegal Iraq War against the objection of Most Americans and the Entire World. Now the GOP Republicans are obligated to immediately stop this illegal Iraq War, involve Europe in the peace keeping / rebuilding task, and face the International Court of Justice (The Hague) on charges of War Crimes. Irish-American Barack Obama of Harvard Law takes the high road, while D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire swims in the sewer.


GOP Republican Failures Reagan was an idiot, while Gorbachev saved the World
GOP Republican Failures Bush I and idiot sidekick Quayle accomplished nothing, while Barbara acted presidential

Democratic Success Bill Clinton Balances the Budget
Democratic Success Bill Clinton maintains a barrel of OOIIILLLL at $24
Democratic Success Bill Clinton maintains a gallon of gasoline at $1.50
Democratic Success Bill Clinton achieves an excellent US relationship with the World

GOP Republican Failures Bush II attacks the US Constitution and steals elections from the American People
GOP Republican Failures Bush II attacks the United Nations and declares an illegal war against an innocent country Iraq
GOP Republican Failures Bush II smuggles criminal Saudi Arabian friends of the Bush out of the country who were key figures in the attack against our country
GOP Republican Failures Bush II speculates with his millionaire OOIIILLLL criminal Wall Street friends to illegally raise a barrel of OOIIILLLL from $24 to $145
GOP Republican Failures Bush II speculates with his millionaire OOIIILLLL criminal Wall Street friends to illegally raise a gallon of gasoline from $1.50 to $4.50
GOP Republican Failures Bush II illegally starts wire tapping citizens, torturing prisoners, and attacking Mexican-American workers (who are the backbone of American labor)
GOP Republican Failures Bush II tarnishes America’s good name with the World
GOP Republican Failures Bush II is perceived as a villain to the World
GOP Republican Failures Bush II, Cheney, and Rice War Crimes questioning by The Hague
GOP Republican Failures D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire is owned by millionaire OOIIILLLL criminals and will continue the Bush policies of failures

AMERICA belongs to AMERICANS and not to greedy GOP Republican Wall Street criminals speculating away our children’s future.

Posted by: GOP Republican Undeservedly Rich Treasury Robbers | August 26, 2008 5:58 PM | Report abuse

When is it likely we'll see polls subjected to peer-reviews? The constant misinformation by the media is simply mind-boggling. When you are dealing with statistical sampling in the form of a poll, the results have a margin of error, depending on the sampling, non-sampling and bias errors. The size of the sample will help determine the margin of error, such as 3% (an adequate sized sample) or a 5% MOE, or even a larger sample, e.g., 7%. At a confidence level of 95%, a 3% MOE is usually a reliable sample; higher MOE and the sample becomes less reliable. A 2% MOE means that the result obtained should be looked at as the result plus or minus the MOE; if the result is 45, the MOE would therefore be added and subtracted, created a "band" centered on the result. Thus, 45 plus 2% = 47, minus = 43. Same would apply to and components, (as in candidates). So, poll results in A getting 45, B getting 43; the range for A is then "as little as" 43, or "as much as" 47. B gets 43, with a range of "as few as" 41 or "as many as" 45. The next step is to see what, if anything, has changed from period to period (from one poll to the next); if candidate A gets 43 in the next poll, with an MOE of 2%, one may say there has been no change from the prior period. Same thing with candidate B. If, however, the MOE of 2% is exceeded in the next polling period, lets say the results are now 48 for A, and 45 for B, then there has been a change in favor of candidate A.
The important thing is to look at the differences from period to period, not simply one period only. And always apply the MOE around the actual resulting number. 45 is the actual for A, plus or minus 2%; you have a band around the number that can be tracked from period to period. Easy to track, easy to interpret. But of no value statistically is the idea that you can use one number only and have it be meaningful.

Why don't media people tell the whole story? Is it possible they don't know about statistical sampling? How can you trust them?

Posted by: JohnOfArizona | August 26, 2008 5:58 PM | Report abuse

My word is my bond.

Unless it's about FISA, or fundraising, or my preacher, or guns, or religion, or taxes, or pretty much anything.

I am still amazed you rubes keep falling for this stuff.

Posted by: Obamanable Snojob | August 26, 2008 5:57 PM | Report abuse

International Court of Justice (The Hague) Wish To Speak With McBush, Cheney, Rice, D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire in January for War Crimes.

GOP Republican Wall Street Get Rich By Selling America Party started the illegal Iraq War. Now the GOP Republicans are totally obligated to immediately stop the illegal Iraq War.

Mumbles D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire came into conflict with higher-ranking personnel and did not always obey the rules, which contributed to a very low class rank (894 of 899) that he did not aim to improve. D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire earned a reputation as a partying man. The planes he was flying crashed twice and once collided with power lines.

GOP Republican McSame, McBush, Cheney, and Rice are paying themselves and their Undeservedly Super Rich OOIIILLLL friends millions of Treasury dollars in bonuses as Average Americans suffer and watch their children future decline. GOP Republicans have caused trillions of dollar debts outsourcing Our Country to China, Saudi Arabia and India. I see nothing patriotic about GOP Republicans destroying the lives of millions of Americans in the name of Wall Street Undeservedly Super Rich speculative greed.

GOP Republican D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush Have Many Many Many Crisis To Answer For
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III Trillion Dollar Treasury Robbing War Crisis
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III Multi-Trillion Dollar Deficit Crisis (Disgrace)
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III Democracy Crisis
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III American People Crisis
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III U.S. Constitution Crisis
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III Barrel of OOIIILLLL Crisis (Democrat $24 changed to GOP Republican $145)
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III Gallon of Gasoline Crisis (Democrat $1.25 changed to GOP Republican $4.50)
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III GOP Republican Wall Street OOIIILLLL Speculation Crisis
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III Wall Street Undeservedly Super-capitalism cannibalistic Crisis
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III Wall Street selling America to Saudi Arabia Crisis
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III Wall Street selling America to India Crisis
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III Wall Street selling America to China Crisis
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III Iraq War Crisis
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III Relations with Iran Crisis
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III Relations with North Korea Crisis
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III Relations with China Crisis
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III Healthcare Crisis
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III U.S. Economics Crisis
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III U.S. Employment Crisis
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III Out Sourcing American Jobs Crisis
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III Auto Industry Crisis
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III Airline Industry Crisis
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III Travel Crisis
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III Flood Levee Crisis
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III Energy Crisis
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III Overseas Tax Haven Rich Tax Avoidance Crisis
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III Wage Gap Crisis
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III Lack of Employees’ Rights Crisis
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III 2000 Election False Vote Count Crisis
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III 2004 Election False Vote Count Crisis
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III Dubious War on Drugs Crisis
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III Education Crisis
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III School Shooting Crisis
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III GOP Republican Drug Money Laundering Crisis
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III GOP Republican Drug Cartel Kickbacks Crisis
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III Prime Time Soft Pornography Crisis
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III GOP Republican Wall Street Mad Cow Crisis
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III Poison Water Crisis
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III Poison Air Crisis
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III Poison Agriculture Crisis (Asia won’t accept our food)
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III Rich GOP Republican Treasury Robbery Crisis
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III American People Lack Confidence in Government Crisis
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III World Chaos Crisis
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III Food Price Crisis
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III Global Warming Crisis
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III Disasters in America Crisis
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III Katrina Crisis
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III Racist Talk Radio Crisis
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III Racist O’Reilly, Fox News, The New Yorker Crisis
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III Housing Crisis
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III U.S. Dollar Crisis
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III Deceptive Administration Crisis
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III Negative World Perception Crisis
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III Iraq War Crisis
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III Iraq War Crisis
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III Iraq War Crisis
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III Corporate Welfare Robbing the US Treasury (American People)
D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III Wall Street selling American Big Banks to foreign billionaires Crisis giving foreign sweatshop billionaires direct votes in Our Economy, Way of Life and Government.
Mission Accomplish D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III For Trying To Destroy Our Democracy and Economy

The Multiple Crisis that are hurting OUR COUNTRY are the fault of the Administration, Supreme Court, Congress and especially the GOP Republican Party for allowing GOP Republican International War Suspects McBush, Cheney, and Rice to lie, cheat and steal their way into the Highest Office on Earth and remain there for eight years. The Entire World thinks that America was ridiculous for allowing GOP Republican criminals and scoundrels to steal their way into office not once but twice. If you locked three Rock Wellers in a jewelry shop for eight years without Undeservedly Supervision, what would you expect upon returning? Why are Americans surprised that the three scoundrels McBush, Cheney, and Rice have smashed up the place and almost destroyed America in eight years? You should have expected bad things from those criminals eight years ago and stopped them back then. Instead of stopping the trillion dollar criminals, the media (Wacko Bill Meltdown O’Reilly, Newsmax, O’Reilly Racist Factor, FOX News, Undeservedly Super-racist Sean Hannity, Glen Beck, The New Yorker) went after the Dixie Chicks, Paris Hilton, Rosie O’Donnel, and Britney Spears. How stupid.

Now the media (Wacko Bill Meltdown O’Reilly, Newsmax, O’Reilly Racist Factor, FOX News, Undeservedly Super-racist Sean Hannity, Glen Beck, The New Yorker) pursues Boy George, because he might be a threat. What an incredibly stupid, stupid, and racist media we have. The World is watching and laughing at our stupid media and defunct Wall Street robber barons greedy selfish shortsighted Undeservedly Supercapitalistic system. Since when does the prerequisite for becoming the President includes being a poor military academy student, out of action POW, computer illiterate, senior citizen and husband of a recovering drug addict / thief / criminal? D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire is qualified to be a former POW and Mrs. McThief is qualified to be a recovering drug addict. What a pair and example for our youth. Romney the compulsive liars will not help our country as vice president. I say force the GOP Republicans to fix their gigantic GOP Republican Undeservedly Supercapitalism mess in one year or dissolve the defunct and failing GOP Republican Wall Street Get Rich By Selling America Party. The defunct GOP Republican Wall Street Get Rich By Selling America Party started the illegal Iraq War against the objection of Most Americans and the Entire World. Now the GOP Republicans are obligated to immediately stop this illegal Iraq War, involve Europe in the peace keeping / rebuilding task, and face the International Court of Justice (The Hague) on charges of War Crimes. Irish-American Barack Obama of Harvard Law takes the high road, while D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire swims in the sewer.


GOP Republican Failures Reagan was an idiot, while Gorbachev saved the World
GOP Republican Failures Bush I and idiot sidekick Quayle accomplished nothing, while Barbara acted presidential

Democratic Success Bill Clinton Balances the Budget
Democratic Success Bill Clinton maintains a barrel of OOIIILLLL at $24
Democratic Success Bill Clinton maintains a gallon of gasoline at $1.50
Democratic Success Bill Clinton achieves an excellent US relationship with the World

GOP Republican Failures Bush II attacks the US Constitution and steals elections from the American People
GOP Republican Failures Bush II attacks the United Nations and declares an illegal war against an innocent country Iraq
GOP Republican Failures Bush II smuggles criminal Saudi Arabian friends of the Bush out of the country who were key figures in the attack against our country
GOP Republican Failures Bush II speculates with his millionaire OOIIILLLL criminal Wall Street friends to illegally raise a barrel of OOIIILLLL from $24 to $145
GOP Republican Failures Bush II speculates with his millionaire OOIIILLLL criminal Wall Street friends to illegally raise a gallon of gasoline from $1.50 to $4.50
GOP Republican Failures Bush II illegally starts wire tapping citizens, torturing prisoners, and attacking Mexican-American workers (who are the backbone of American labor)
GOP Republican Failures Bush II tarnishes America’s good name with the World
GOP Republican Failures Bush II is perceived as a villain to the World
GOP Republican Failures Bush II, Cheney, and Rice War Crimes questioning by The Hague
GOP Republican Failures D Student McFail McCain Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire is owned by millionaire OOIIILLLL criminals and will continue the Bush policies of failures

AMERICA belongs to AMERICANS and not to greedy GOP Republican Wall Street criminals speculating away our children’s future.

Posted by: GOP Republican Treasury Robbers | August 26, 2008 5:57 PM | Report abuse

Obama won BOTH the POPULAR and the ELECTORAL majority.

(FYI Mr. "Ed Wierdness".)

Hillary and Bill Clinton need to talk passionately, and OFTEN about how Obama is the best PERSON for the job.

BAR NONE.

Posted by: JBE | August 26, 2008 5:56 PM | Report abuse

Our media poisons people's rational minds to the point where they confuse defending their emotions with a political position. It's all anger, fear, and most of all confusion. Here's what's going to actually happen: Barack Obama and John McCain's names will be on the ballot in November for President of the United States. How do you want to feel on November 5th?

Posted by: tashekor | August 26, 2008 5:55 PM | Report abuse

OBAMA'S 'NOT EXACTLY'S'

1.) Selma Got Me Born - NOT EXACTLY, your parents felt safe enough to have you in 1961 - Selma had no effect on your birth, as Selma was in 1965.
(Google' Obama Selma ' for his full March 4, 2007 speech and articles about its various untruths.)

2.) Father Was A Goat Herder - NOT EXACTLY, he was a privileged, well educated youth, who went on to work with the Kenyan Government.

3.) Father Was A Proud Freedom Fighter - NOT EXACTLY, he was part of one of the most corrupt and violent governments Kenya has ever had.

4.) My Family Has Strong Ties To African Freedom - NOT EXACTLY; your cousin Raila Odinga has created mass violence in attempting to overturn a legitimate election in 2007, in Kenya. It is the first widespread violence in decades. The current government is pro-American but Odinga wants to overthrow it and establish Muslim Sharia law. Your half-brother, Abongo Obama, is Odinga's follower. You interrupted your New Hampshire campaigning to speak to Odinga on the phone. Obama's cousin Odinga in Kenya ran for president and tried to get Sharia muslim law in place there. When Odinga lost the elections, his followers have burned Christians' homes and then burned men, women and children alive in a Christian church where they took shelter.. Obama SUPPORTED his cousin before the election process here started. Google Obama and Odinga and see what you get. No one wants to know the truth.

5.) My Grandmother Has Always Been A Christian - NOT EXACTLY, she does her daily Salat prayers at 5am according to her own interviews. Not to mention, Christianity wouldn't allow her to have been one of 14 wives to 1 man.

6.) My Name is African Swahili - NOT EXACTLY, your name is Arabic and 'Baraka' (from which Barack came) means 'blessed' in that language. Hussein is also Arabic and so is Obama. Barack Hussein Obama is not half black. If elected, he would be the first Arab-American President, not the first black President. Barack Hussein Obama is 50% Caucasian from his mother's side and 43.75% Arabic and 6.25% African Negro from his father's side. While Barack Hussein Obama's father was from Kenya, his father's family was mainly Arabs.. Barack Hussein Obama's father was only 12.5% African Negro and 87.5% Arab (his father's birth certificate even states he's Arab, not African Negro). From....and for more....go to.....
http://www.arcadeathome.com/newsboy.phtml?Barack_Hussein_Obama_-_Arab-Americ

7.) I Never Practiced Islam - NOT EXACTLY, you practiced it daily at school, where you were registered as a Muslim and kept that faith for 31 years, until your wife made you change, so you could run for office.
4-3-08 Article 'Obama was 'quite religious in islam'' http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=60559

8.) My School In Indonesia was Christian - NOT EXACTLY, you were registered as Muslim there and got in trouble in Koranic Studies for making faces (check your own book). February 28, 2008. Kristoff from the New York Times a year ago: Mr. Obama recalled the opening lines of the Arabic call to prayer, reciting them with a first-rate accent. In a remark that seemed delightfully uncalculated (it'll give Alabama voters heart attacks); Mr. Obama described the call to prayer as 'one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset.' This is just one example of what Pamela is talking about when she says 'Obama's narrative is being altered, enhanced and manipulated to whitewash troubling facts.'

9.) I Was Fluent In Indonesian - NOT EXACTLY, not one teacher says you could speak the language.

10.) Because I Lived In Indonesia, I Have More Foreign Experience - NOT EXACTLY, you were there from the ages of 6 to 10, and couldn't even speak the language. What did you learn, how to study the Koran and watch cartoons.

11.) I Am Stronger On Foreign Affairs - NOT EXACTLY, except for Africa (surprise) and the Middle East (bigger surprise); you have never been anywhere else on the planet and thus have NO experience with our closest allies.

12.) I Blame My Early Drug Use On Ethnic Confusion - NOT EXACTLY, you were quite content in high school to be Barry Obama, no mention of Kenya and no mention of struggle to identify - your classmates said you were just fine.

13.) An Ebony Article Moved Me To Run For Office - NOT EXACTLY, Ebony has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn't, and never did, exist.

14.) A Life Magazine Article Changed My outlook on Life - NOT EXACTLY, Life has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn't, and never did, exist.

15.) I Won't Run On A National Ticket In '08 - NOT EXACTLY, here you are, despite saying, live on TV, that you would not have enough experience by then, and you are all about having experience first.

16.) Voting 'Present' is Common In Illinois Senate - NOT EXACTLY, they are common for YOU, but not many others have 130 NO VOTES.

17.) Oops, I Misvoted - NOT EXACTLY, only when caught by church groups and Democrats, did you beg to change your misvote.

18.) I Was A Professor Of Law - NOT EXACTLY, you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.

19.) I Was A Constitutional Lawyer - NOT EXACTLY, you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.

20.) Without Me, There Would Be No Ethics Bill - NOT EXACTLY, you didn't write it, introduce it, change it, or create it.

21.) The Ethics Bill Was Hard To Pass - NOT EXACTLY, it took just 14 days from start to finish.

22.) I Wrote A Tough Nuclear Bill - NOT EXACTLY, your bill was rejected by your own party for its pandering and lack of all regulation - mainly because of your Nuclear donor, Exelon, from which David Axelrod came.

23.) I Have Released My State Records - NOT EXACTLY, as of March, 2008, state bills you sponsored or voted for have yet to be released, exposing all the special interests pork hidden within.

24.) I Took On The Asbestos Altgeld Gardens Mess - NOT EXACTLY, you were part of a large group of people who remedied Altgeld Gardens. You failed to mention anyone else but yourself, in your books.

25.) My Economics Bill Will Help America - NOT EXACTLY, your 111 economic policies were just combined into a proposal which lost 99-0, and even YOU voted against your own bill.

26.) I Have Been A Bold Leader In Illinois - NOT EXACTLY, even your own supporters claim to have not seen BOLD action on your part.

27.) I Passed 26 Of My Own Bills In One Year - NOT EXACTLY, they were not YOUR bills, but rather handed to you, after their creation by a fellow Senator, to assist you in a future bid for higher office.

28.) No One on my campaign contacted Canada about NAFTA - NOT EXACTLY, the Canadian Government issued the names and a memo of the conversation your campaign had with them.

29.) I Am Tough On Terrorism - NOT EXACTLY, you missed the Iran Resolution vote on terrorism and your good friend Ali Abunimah supports the destruction of Israel.

30.) I Want All Votes To Count - NOT EXACTLY; you said let the delegates decide.

31.) I Want Americans To Decide - NOT EXACTLY, you prefer caucuses that limit the vote, confuse the voters, force a public vote, and only operate during small windows of time.

32.) I passed 900 Bills in the State Senate - NOT EXACTLY, you passed 26, most of which you didn't write yourself.

33.) I Believe In Fairness, Not Tactics - NOT EXACTLY, you used tactics to eliminate Alice Palmer from running against you.

34.) I Don't Take PAC Money - NOT EXACTLY, you take loads of it.

35.) I don't Have Lobbyists - NOT EXACTLY, you have over 47 lobbyists, and counting.

36.) My Campaign Had Nothing To Do With The 1984 Ad - NOT EXACTLY, your own campaign worker made the ad on his Apple in one afternoon.

Posted by: NotStuckOnParties ~ I have a mind of my own | August 26, 2008 5:54 PM | Report abuse

How do Hillary supporters not understand this: If Obama doesn't win, Hillary will never be elected to anything ever again. Republicans hate her, so she needs the whole Democratic party to win, which she can get only if she hasn't destroyed the dreams of 80% of them.

I was actually a Hillary supporter. I voted for her in the NH primary. I would never support her again if this divisiveness forfeits our future to a McCain presidency.

What kind of strange vacuum do you think you're living in? We're all in this together. You have the right to sabotage our cause out of spite, but to think anyone would support you later is lunacy.

From now on I'm choosing to believe this: None of these people were actually Hillary supporters or Democrats at all. They voted in open primaries which allow conservatives. It's all a giant conspiracy to ruin Hillary's name. It worked.

Posted by: Doug Christian | August 26, 2008 5:53 PM | Report abuse

someone stop me before I post again.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 26, 2008 5:53 PM | Report abuse

I'm so cick of people saying Hillary owes Obama. He can't even bring the party together but is relying on Hillary to do his job. He and his cronies played the race card to ensure that he would be the nominee. Bill, Ed Rendell, James Carville, and a few others had the guts to speak out and get criticized for telling the truth. If by chance Obama wins the presidency, he will serve for only one term. If I were Hillary, I would not lie and say how 'great'a leader he will be. He is about as ready to lead on day one as a fith grader.

Posted by: HRC Still the One | August 26, 2008 5:53 PM | Report abuse

American politics is indeed the laughingstock of the world. That 2 candidates should take 2 years (of time that they are supposed to be serving their constituents in their Senate posts) and spend $25 million (each!!) to beat each other, prior to the actual election, is simply ludicrous. People in America can't pay their mortgages or their heating bills. In other parts of the world entire nations are starving. Can you imagine if that time and money were spent on causes that actually made a difference in someone's life? And how can anyone put the words "Clinton" and "values" in the same sentence?

Posted by: Ann | August 26, 2008 5:52 PM | Report abuse

John: "The real Hillary supporters no that Hillary is just being a good Democrat and saying she supports Obama. We really know she does not mean it. She really hopes he will lose so she can win in 2012. Obama will be bad for America."

You're a complete nutjob if you actually believe this. How about paying attention to what Hillary is saying instead of what you wish she'd say?

Posted by: Anonymous | August 26, 2008 5:51 PM | Report abuse

I have a lot of deep psychological issues.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 26, 2008 5:51 PM | Report abuse

I think this article is spot on. I also think Hillary Clinton is very intelligent and even if it is like sand paper on her nerves, she will be brilliant, direct, and unequivocal: vote Obama. HRC's address of the Convention will be the one that is remembered, and she knows that. She will be what we (her supporters) all know she is: a bold leader with vision and passion.

I would note however, an agree with comments I have seen here and other places: it is Barack Obama's responsibility to get himself elected. The onus is on him, and his campaign to bring the Democratic vote home.

Hillary Clinton is entitled to feel disappointed, even cheated. What matters is how she conducts herself, and she has done so with grace and zeal. She has campaigned for Obama more than any other runner up in either party. And, even though her supporters are still factious, she has brought her multi-million dollar fund raising network into lock step behind Obama. All of her public statements have been about unity, and she refused comment or deferred to Obama on all "hot spot" questions. Her behavior has been impeccable. What people think of her notwithstanding, Senator Clinton has been generous and cooperative, and is thoroughly enjoying the role of Kingmaker. Who knew it would be her? (Everyone thought it would be John Edwards...)

Posted by: Anonymous | August 26, 2008 5:51 PM | Report abuse

I think Hillary needs to be aggressive towards the people with thick skulls who refuse to put aside their bitter feelings from the primary.

Imagine: The room goes dark and up on the video screen appears one of those Mccain ads aimed towards winning Hillary's supporters. The ad ends, the lights go up and Hillary asks her supporters point blank:

"Are you going to let the Republicans play on your emotions like that? Are you going to let them take advantage of your passions? If you support John Mccain you DO NOT support me."

Posted by: verycleanteeth | August 26, 2008 5:51 PM | Report abuse

American politics is indeed the laughingstock of the world. That 2 candidates should take 2 years (of time that they are supposed to be serving their constituents in their Senate posts) and spend $25 million (each!!) to beat each other, prior to the actual election, is simply ludicrous. People in America can't pay their mortgages or their heating bills. In other parts of the world entire nations are starving. Can you imagine if that time and money were spent on causes that actually made a difference in someone's life? And how can anyone put the words "Clinton" and "values" in the same sentence?

Posted by: Ann | August 26, 2008 5:51 PM | Report abuse

I have a lot of deep psychological issues.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 26, 2008 5:50 PM | Report abuse

First of all The Clintons have done a lot for this nation. It was not that long ago that we were a lot better off then we are now. People were working and spending money. We had HOPE back then. Granted it was 8 years ago but we did have HOPE. Last nite I watched how people were saying that we havent HOPE since the days of KENNEDY. This was a lie. Some people want to act like OBAMA is some SAINT and that he is going to change the world as President. Things in Washington DC have been the way they are for a very long time now. There has been lots of Presidents in the past that wanted to change things and couldnt or didnt. Now out of the blue OBAMA thinks he can be the great SAINT who can come to DC and change things. PLEASE! Its not going to happen. He is going to say anything to get elected as the first black president. Lets face folks once he gets in he isnt going to care about the people. That goes for McCain or anyone else for that fact. Anyone who thinks that OBAMA is going to save the nation is on some serious drugs. He has one thing in mind and that is to become the first black President.

As far as how smart we are as people in this country well.... we did put BUSH in office for 8 years. I think that said's a lot.

I am a Hillary Clinton supporter and no matter what she says or what OBAMA says I am voting McCain. At least McCain has experince to lead. He has been through the hell of being a POW lived to tell about and now run for President. I think that says that he can handel anything that happens and that he knows how to deal with things. Obama has no experince what so ever. He claims that he is just like you and me but come thursday he will have the traffic stoped for 5 hrs why he speaks outside. Cause he can't do it inside the pepsi center like he should. No that is not good enough. But he is normal like you and me. OK! PLEASE!

McCain O8

Posted by: Charlie | August 26, 2008 5:50 PM | Report abuse

I think Hillary needs to be aggressive towards the people with thick skulls who refuse to put aside their bitter feelings from the primary.

Imagine: The room goes dark and up on the video screen appears one of those Mccain ads aimed towards winning Hillary's supporters. The ad ends, the lights go up and Hillary asks her supporters point blank:

"Are you going to let the Republicans play on your emotions like that? Are you going to let them take advantage of your passions? If you support John Mccain you DO NOT support me."

Posted by: verycleanteeth | August 26, 2008 5:49 PM | Report abuse

my wife is pregnant right now, and to think that she would ever CHOOSE to abort the pregnancy and kill the baby is BEYOND anything I could comprehend. all you liberals who think it is OK to "choose" whether your baby lives or dies are ridiculous! i am absolutely AGAINST Obama and any other liberal for this reason ALONE! i now know that my baby has had a beating heart and finger buds since 8 weeks old (or earlier!) and has looked absolutely human, with all organs and body parts fully formed (even fingernails!) since 15 weeks! our 18 week ultrasound showed the baby moving around, it had a clear face that even resembled my own with a little turned up button nose, it was grabbing its feet and yawning and everything... at 18 weeks!! how could you EVER feel it is YOUR RIGHT to choose to kill a baby? even in a situation of rape or incest, does KILLING the baby solve your "problem" or provide you with "closure" or "revenge" for what a rapist did to you?!?! absolutely NOT! that child had NOTHING to do with the rape or incest... it just happened to form through the miracle of LIFE! there are people in this world who cannot have children, yet liberals think it is OK to kill their own babies for CONVENIENCE!! MURDERERS!!!!!

Posted by: jake | August 26, 2008 5:49 PM | Report abuse

Why is Obama and his supporters not calling Clinton supporters by the names they were given by you people earlier? Like racist,idiots,uneducated etc?Need some votes?

Posted by: Anonymous | August 26, 2008 5:49 PM | Report abuse

McCAIN TAKES LEAD BY 2 PTS. IN GALLUP TRACKING;
FIRST-TIME LEAD AS RACE APPROACHES FINAL STRETCH

• No "Biden Bounce" Whatsoever
• First Obama Executive Blunder?


Just one day before he expects to be anointed the Democratic standard-bearer, Barack Obama slipped behind John McCain in the closely-watched Gallup daily tracking poll, an ominous sign for his November prospects and a flat-line response to his selection of Delaware Sen. Joe Biden as his vice presidential running mate.

The Obama campaign, in response to the poll results, issued a statement saying: "If the spread was greater than the number of John McCain's houses, we'd be concerned."

*******************************

What do the delegates think of Obama's continued slide in the polls, just as they are being told by his campaign that the roll call vote promised to Hillary Clinton may be denied?

Stay tuned.

Posted by: Outside the Box | August 26, 2008 5:48 PM | Report abuse

All for Hillary! America's true Mother!
HRC Delegates, we've got your back!
"The only thing you have to fear is fear iteself!" - FDR
Vote HRC/Richardson 08
for values voters, women, and Hispanics

Posted by: lockmallup | August 26, 2008 5:48 PM | Report abuse

MART MART MARTA........hehehehe

Guys anytime you see (white, teacher, female, middle aged, old, retired but white, single mom and white)....its the obama staffer (paid staffer)....hey i got news for you . People ain't dumb!!

Gallup tracking McCain up by 2.

Posted by: tyronne | August 26, 2008 5:48 PM | Report abuse

I think this article is spot on. I also think Hillary Clinton is very intelligent and even if it is like sand paper on her nerves, she will be brilliant, direct, and unequivocal: vote Obama. HRC's address of the Convention will be the one that is remembered, and she knows that. She will be what we (her supporters) all know she is: a bold leader with vision and passion.

I would note however, an agree with comments I have seen here and other places: it is Barack Obama's responsibility to get himself elected. The onus is on him, and his campaign to bring the Democratic vote home.

Hillary Clinton is entitled to feel disappointed, even cheated. What matters is how she conducts herself, and she has done so with grace and zeal. She has campaigned for Obama more than any other runner up in either party. And, even though her supporters are still factious, she has brought her multi-million dollar fund raising network into lock step behind Obama. All of her public statements have been about unity, and she refused comment or deferred to Obama on all "hot spot" questions. Her behavior has been impeccable. What people think of her notwithstanding, Senator Clinton has been generous and cooperative, and is thoroughly enjoying the role of Kingmaker. Who knew it would be her? (Everyone thought it would be John Edwards...)

Posted by: Anonymous | August 26, 2008 5:48 PM | Report abuse

Hillary Clinton DOES NOT owe Obama an apology. He on the other hand owes her one. It's BHO's responsibility to bring the party togetether -- not HRC. After all, in some sleazy and unethical way, he and his cronies managed to steal the election from Hillary. Bill Clinton, Ed Rendell, James Carville, and a few others are the only ones who have the guts to speak up on what really happened. Obama played the race card every chance he got. He is as about ready to lead the nation on day one as a fifth grader.

Posted by: HRC Still the One | August 26, 2008 5:48 PM | Report abuse

NotStuckOnParties :"Barack will NOT be our first Black President. He is not African American. He's Arab. Barack Hussein Obama's father was only 12.5% African Negro {Kenyan} and 87.5% Arab "

Yeah right , and McCain would be what - 20% dirt, 25% terracotta, 6% martian, 10% of grey matter , 20% anti-gravitas and the rest all black matter ?

Posted by: Get stuck | August 26, 2008 5:47 PM | Report abuse

All for Hillary! America's true Mother!
HRC Delegates, we've got your back!
Vote HRC/Richardson 08
Ola! Ola! Ola!

Posted by: lockmallup | August 26, 2008 5:47 PM | Report abuse

I was a Hillary Supporter who switched to Obama as it became clear Obama would be the nominee. I am ashamed of the Clinton supporters who will not get behind Obama and help win this election. Their position appears petty and hypocritical in that it is self defeating. Success for the Democrats (or for any group of people tied together by a common cause be it a Labor Union, a Marriage, a Sports Team) requires a degree of compromise that these folks are not magnanimous enough to afford.

Posted by: Chris Phipps | August 26, 2008 5:47 PM | Report abuse

As a reluctant Hillary convert I find Chris's No. 4 pretty ironic. The BO technique has long been for the candidate to fly above it all while his campaign and surrogates (including a number in the press) go for the jugular. They need to demonize their opponents while their guy needs to show clean hands. The Clintons have been their favorite whipping boy and girl and some (like Maureen D) still can't adjust to the new reality but now they're asking Hillary to take up the cudgel that beat her so badly. That conflict has been the engine that drove the campaign, witness the newest story line about the Clintons' alleged foot-dragging. Personally, I feel that anything Bill & Hillary do for BO is gravy given that he still hasn't apologized for the race card (yes he did!!!)

Posted by: Anonymous | August 26, 2008 5:47 PM | Report abuse

Hillary do us Proud in your support for Obama/Biden! We know that a great speech is coming.

Watch out Rove, Schmidt, McCain/Bush/Cheney its payback time for those attack ads!

Posted by: Katherine | August 26, 2008 5:46 PM | Report abuse

The year: 2000
The candidates: Al Gore, George Bush

This year: 2008
The candidates: Hilary, Obama

The Parallel: delegates and college electoral

Remember the rules of the game.

Posted by: Homie | August 26, 2008 5:45 PM | Report abuse

"notstuckonparties" Take your racist, bigoted bs and stick it where the sun don't shine. Barack Obama is an American citizen, mixed-race like so many other Americans.
Any true American or decent human being would be ashamed of you. Hillary Clinton wouldn't want you as a supporter. Words like yours disgust me.

Posted by: sfsinger | August 26, 2008 5:44 PM | Report abuse

The real Hillary supporters no that Hillary is just being a good Democrat and saying she supports Obama. We really know she does not mean it. She really hopes he will lose so she can win in 2012. Obama will be bad for America.

Posted by: John | August 26, 2008 5:44 PM | Report abuse

The real Hillary supporters no that Hillary is just being a good Democrat and saying she supports Obama. We really know she does not mean it. She really hopes he will lose so she can win in 2012. Obama will be bad for America.

Posted by: John | August 26, 2008 5:43 PM | Report abuse

To all you bitter (and unlike Obama, I actually mean "bitter") Hillary supporters: Stop your whining! Good lord! Enough is enough already. How can you even call yourself a Clinton supporter, let alone a DEMOCRAT, if you would actually consider voting for McCain just because your beloved Hillary lost a fair fight. And yes, it was fair. There's no secret here, people! This is politics; the gloves need to come off at some point. The fight went the distance and Obama won. Obama is the nominee, deal with it and support the Democratic party! Indeed, what do you think your precious Hillary would say to you if she found out you voted for McCain?? You'd be just as much a sore loser as she if you did (not to mention extremely hypocritical and valueless as well).

Posted by: Obama '08 | August 26, 2008 5:43 PM | Report abuse

Is there anyone so daft as to think that Mrs. Clinton will be capable of, or even have the opportunity to run for president again in 2016? Seriously, this was her only shot at a political future, and the Clinton families only chance at redemption or any sort of meaningful legacy. I agree that the convention is the worst forum to make a stand, but hey, sometimes the battle picks you, instead of the other way round. Plain and simple, if Hilary and her supporters truly believe she is the right person for the job, nothing else matters. No sane person would argue that Mrs. Clinton go against her better instincts to support the wrong person for president, on the basis that she might get another shot almost a decade from now. The fact that the Obama faction and the Clinton faction are willing to cut a deal, simply proves that Democrats are no better than Republicans, putting partisan interests before the interests of America's Citizens.

Posted by: Ed Weirdness | August 26, 2008 5:42 PM | Report abuse

If McCain wins in part because of Hillary's lukewarm endorsements of Obama, Clinton's pollitical future will be bleak. Her tepid support will have alienated so many Democrats(e.g., many of Obama supporters). As a former Hillary supporter and part of her key demographic (white, teacher, female, middle aged), I will no longer support her in the future if she does not truly get behind Obama.

Posted by: marta | August 26, 2008 5:42 PM | Report abuse

Is there anyone so daft as to think that Mrs. Clinton will be capable of, or even have the opportunity to run for president again in 2016? Seriously, this was her only shot at a political future, and the Clinton families only chance at redemption or any sort of meaningful legacy. I agree that the convention is the worst forum to make a stand, but hey, sometimes the battle picks you, instead of the other way round. Plain and simple, if Hilary and her supporters truly believe she is the right person for the job, nothing else matters. No sane person would argue that Mrs. Clinton go against her better instincts to support the wrong person for president, on the basis that she might get another shot almost a decade from now. The fact that the Obama faction and the Clinton faction are willing to cut a deal, simply proves that Democrats are no better than Republicans, putting partisan interests before the interests of America's Citizens.

Posted by: Ed Weirdness | August 26, 2008 5:42 PM | Report abuse

Hillary should say "thanks for resigning Joe, so we could put this party togeather and win this election".

Posted by: mike delehanty | August 26, 2008 5:41 PM | Report abuse

Hillary does not have to do ANYTHING!!!!

It is Obama's resposibility to Unite the party.

Time for him to show off those reaching accross the isle skills!!!

Posted by: CRAMOS | August 26, 2008 5:41 PM | Report abuse

You guys seen -- the latest Gallup shows that Obama has just dropped 2 points below McCain -- during the DNC. This is bizarre - probably unheard of in modern political history.

Expect the Washington Post to remain VERY quiet about this.


Posted by: JP Vanderbilt | August 26, 2008 5:41 PM | Report abuse

Barak Obama made a mistake, by not selecting Hillary Clinton as VP. Can all Hillary Clinton supporter ask Barak Obama to select her as VP now?

Posted by: Well Wisher | August 26, 2008 5:41 PM | Report abuse

Hillary should tell her teachers union, man-hating base that Barack Obama is deserving of their support and represents the best hope for America's future.

Posted by: hamishdad | August 26, 2008 5:40 PM | Report abuse

To her supporters who say they will now vote for McCain, she only needs to say "It's not OK!"

Posted by: Spitfire69 | August 26, 2008 5:40 PM | Report abuse

I'm not sure how the comment below, about Obama winning the primary fair and square etc, got listed as by quentin, perhaps I accidentally typed his name in the name box. It was me who wrote that, responding to him.

Posted by: sfsinger | August 26, 2008 5:40 PM | Report abuse

Barak Obama made a mistake, by not selecting Hillary Clinton as VP. Can all Hillary Clinton supporter ask Barak Obama to select her as VP now?

Posted by: Well Wisher | August 26, 2008 5:40 PM | Report abuse

Luckily for Obama, it is in HRC's interest to be very, very nice to Obama tonight, when all the folks who hold her political future will be watching and listening. So long as there are no girl scouts with flowers around (SNIPER FIRE!), she should do both Obama and herself a favor with her speech. She pretty much got used to faking it in the primary. The bigger question is tomorrow night, when Slick Willie has to try to sound and appear sincere. He needs to sound at least as sincere as when he assured us all that he did not have sex with that woman, Monica Lewinski.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 26, 2008 5:40 PM | Report abuse

The best thing Hillary can do for all of us is lay down and die.

Posted by: Joe Momma | August 26, 2008 5:39 PM | Report abuse

"Hillary2012" is a GOP thug. No way this person is an actual Democrat or Hillary voter.
"McCain isn't perfect but he is closer to us than Obama's extreme left radical notions" That's a GOP talking point. And, please, give ONE example of what you're talking about. One. You can't. But that's fine. Hillary herself will set the record straight tonight. Not that it will matter to you; the truth never does. Also, cant wait for an ad showing the woman at the McCain townhall a few months back who referred to Hillary as "the b***h" to which McCain responded with hysterical laughter. The Republicans have a
HORRIBLE record of the last eight years to run on so they run on garbage. WONT WORK THIS TIME. The polls are underestimating Obama's support with the electorate as they did numerous times during the primaries (i.e. North Carolina primary where final polls showed Obama up by 6-7 points; he won by 15). The GOP is not gonna know what him them on November 4. I can hardly wait.

Posted by: michael in florida | August 26, 2008 5:39 PM | Report abuse

Hillary should tell her teachers union, man-hating base that Barack Obama is deserving of their support and represents the best hope for America's future.

Posted by: hamishdad | August 26, 2008 5:38 PM | Report abuse

To her supporters who say they will now vote for McCain, she only needs to say "It's not OK!"

Posted by: Spitfire | August 26, 2008 5:38 PM | Report abuse

Hillary should say, "My name is on the ballot. Make the right decision. The only intelligent decision!"

Barack will NOT be our first Black President. He is not African American. He's Arab. Barack Hussein Obama's father was only 12.5% African Negro {Kenyan} and 87.5% Arab (his father's birth certificate even states he's Arab, not African Negro.)

Posted by: NotStuckOnParties | August 26, 2008 5:38 PM | Report abuse

NO ONE SHOULD ATTACK ANYONE!...TELL WHAT ACTION'S ARE GOING TO BE TAKEN TO RESOLVE WHAT ISSUE'S!

Posted by: OH WELL | August 26, 2008 5:38 PM | Report abuse

2 things would be plenty.
1) Pack her bags (including her scumbag husband)
2) Get the flock out of Dodge

Posted by: DWayne | August 26, 2008 5:38 PM | Report abuse

Look the Republicans are not stupid enough to overturn Roe v. Wade, If they do the Democrats will win every election for the next 20 years, America is that pro-choice.

Posted by: DCDave | August 26, 2008 5:38 PM | Report abuse

Need to come up with a new term for "Clinton supporters". Hillary Clinton has repeatedly called for her supporters to back Obama. Obviously, she can't force them to do so. But the few real former Clinton supporters left who are actively opposing Obama -- against Clinton's direct wishes -- can't really be called Clinton supporters anymore, can they?

Posted by: Whippy | August 26, 2008 5:38 PM | Report abuse

Obama won the primary fair and square. No one is saying it wasn't a close and tense race, no one is saying Florida and Michigan breaking the rules didn't make is difficult, but he won, get over it. Obama supporters would have supported Clinton if she had won. For the good of your country, get over it, show some of the class HRC has shown.
If you really care about any of the issues Hillary Clinton fights for, you won't vote McCain. Finally, do you really think Clinton won't have a huge role in the next administration? Of course she will.

Posted by: quentin | August 26, 2008 5:37 PM | Report abuse

Hillary should tell her teachers union, man-hating base that Barack Obama is deserving of their support and represents the best hope for America's future.

Posted by: hamishdad | August 26, 2008 5:37 PM | Report abuse

Obama won the primary fair and square. No one is saying it wasn't a close and tense race, no one is saying Florida and Michigan breaking the rules didn't make is difficult, but he won, get over it. Obama supporters would have supported Clinton if she had won. For the good of your country, get over it, show some of the class HRC has shown.
If you really care about any of the issues Hillary Clinton fights for, you won't vote McCain. Finally, do you really think Clinton won't have a huge role in the next administration? Of course she will.

Posted by: quentin | August 26, 2008 5:36 PM | Report abuse

Hillary should tell her teachers union, man-hating base that Barack Obama is deserving of their support and represents the best hope for America's future.

Posted by: hamishdad | August 26, 2008 5:36 PM | Report abuse

Well, my friends…. The Dems are partying to the max and will hit new highs tonight when Bill Clinton FINALLY endorses Obama. The #1 beverage in Denver is the Obamatini and the web domain http://www.obamatini.com is currently being auctioned at afternic.com. Given how much money the Dems still need to raise to counter the traditional Republican mud-slinging campaign, someone will probably turn obamatini.com into a potent fundraising-and-propaganda cocktail.

Posted by: edwards | August 26, 2008 5:36 PM | Report abuse

BO can't handle clintons, how is he going to handle international crisis, national events (katrina, terrorism), economy.

Hillary doesn't have to do nothing, she has gone out and said over and over again to her supporters to help Obama elect P.

Its that msnbc, cnn a-holes that need to go out and apologize to hill supporters because of the manner they treated this great woman and Yes she is great and she will be that doesn't matter President/VP or not.

When BO makes great speech its plastered all over the place and that's all HE needs to be electable and when Clinton gave her concession speech (which was one of the best speeches I have ever heard or seen)the liberal media branded that as a scheme for her next presidential bid. Shame on you!!

Posted by: tyronne | August 26, 2008 5:36 PM | Report abuse

Some of the more hardcore (read: insane) Clinton backers think she's dropping subtle hints that she actually wants them to vote for McCain, and all this "vote for Barack" stuff is really just a cover to placate the DNC. There's probably very little she can say to get the PUMA types to vote D in the next election; if they're at the point where they think no means yes, they'll pretty much just vote out of spite no matter what their candidate wants them to do.

Posted by: viscount | August 26, 2008 5:36 PM | Report abuse

What a joke. The Democrats have controlled both Congress and the Senate while accomplishing nothing. Their ratings are the lowest ever...yes, even lower than the Presidents. What we don't need now is a Democratic, Congress, Senate and Presidency!

Posted by: SeaRation | August 26, 2008 5:36 PM | Report abuse

5 things Hillary needs to do at the convention tonight: #1 wear some decent well-taylored dark blue business clothes that don't look like a polyester lady's leisure suit from the 70's #2 tell her "supporters" to either make up their minds to vote for Barack Obama or get themselves out of the Hillary Clinton fan club, cause if they don't support Barack Obama , they don't support her #3 tell Bill to get his act together and make a dazzling speech supporting Barack Obama, starting and ending with the downright plain words "Barack Obama is ready to lead", or else get his butt out of the Hillary Clinton fan club, cause if he doesn't support Barack Obama, he doesn't support her #4 shut up and #5 get off the stage.

Posted by: Tre | August 26, 2008 5:35 PM | Report abuse

What about Obama apologizing for painting pres Clinton as a racist?

Posted by: Anonymous | August 26, 2008 5:35 PM | Report abuse

I have NO confidence in Shrillery confidently encouraging ANYONE to vote for ANYONE but Shrillery or Bill. It is not in her nature. She and Bill are only out for themselves, and use the American public for their surrogates. I will NOT watch her tonight or ever, if I can help it. Enough of Shrillery. Let's get back on the campaign to elect a new President!

Posted by: M Robertson | August 26, 2008 5:35 PM | Report abuse

So let me get this straight, OB wins (marginally) on the delegate count (after the DNC threw Hilary under the bus), loses on the popular vote count, picks a Senate insider as VP, thereby shattering any pretense he might have had as being an agent of change, and now it's somehow Hilary Clinton's job to straighten out this mess? Seriously, who are we kidding here? Does anyone really want to see this nation being run by Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid?

Posted by: Ed Weirdness | August 26, 2008 5:34 PM | Report abuse

Two words for those Clinton supporters who say they will not support Obama, even if that means a McCain victory: Supreme Court. McCain is on record saying he will appoint more justices like Roberts and Alito. If you all think that sealing in place a five or six justice extreme right majority is a good think, then so be it -- I just hope your daughters and granddaughters can live with the repercussions of your narrow-minded egocentrism. It is time to get past bruised feelings and bitterness; there are very real differences between these candidates that will have very, very palpable impacts on real peoples' lives for generations to come.

Posted by: ng | August 26, 2008 5:34 PM | Report abuse

Some of the more hardcore (read: insane) Clinton backers think she's dropping subtle hints that she actually wants them to vote for McCain, and all this "vote for Barack" stuff is really just a cover to placate the DNC. There's probably very little she can say to get the PUMA types to vote D in the next election; if they're at the point where they think no means yes, they'll pretty much just vote out of spite no matter what their candidate wants to do.

Posted by: viscount | August 26, 2008 5:33 PM | Report abuse

No Obama wouldn't have complained as much as you stupid people.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 26, 2008 5:33 PM | Report abuse

Senator Clinton should not attack McCain.

McCain should win.

Then in 4 years, Clinton can run again because McCain will either have screwed things up, be too sick, or have passed away.

Posted by: Real Democrats | August 26, 2008 5:33 PM | Report abuse

I'm so sick of people saying Obama owes Hillary something.

She stayed in the race and attacked him even when she knew that winning was mathematically impossible. That's not gracious at all.

If anything, Hillary (and her cult) are a bunch of sore losers that could cost us the election and stick us with 4 more years of Republican rule.

Pathetic.

Posted by: MBW | August 26, 2008 5:33 PM | Report abuse

" Obama is the one who lied and cheated to get the nomination, not Hillary.
"

Like how ? By ducking under sniper fire ? or not releasing tax papers ?

"McCain isn't perfect but he is closer to us than Obama's extreme left radical notions"

He is closer to Hillary's position by doing what ? He is closer to her by age, I admit that. What else ?

Posted by: Fido | August 26, 2008 5:32 PM | Report abuse

Dear "Clinton Supporters":

Do you not care about a woman's righ to choose (Roe v. Wade)? If McCain is elected you can kiss that decision goodbye.

Did you support the invasion of Iraq? Hillary did and that's the reason she lost the primary, not the "evil" media.

Hold your nose if you must but keep the Republicans out of power. (I actually think the over-the-top clinton supporters on this site are Republican plants. The right is a desdperate place...)

Posted by: Undecided | August 26, 2008 5:32 PM | Report abuse

Senator Clinton should not attack McCain.

McCain should win.

Then in 4 years, Clinton can run again because McCain will either have screwed things up, be too sick, or have passed away.

Posted by: Democrats turned Independents | August 26, 2008 5:32 PM | Report abuse

" Obama is the one who lied and cheated to get the nomination, not Hillary.
"

Like how ? By ducking under sniper fire ? or not releasing tax papers ?

"McCain isn't perfect but he is closer to us than Obama's extreme left radical notions"

He is closer to Hillary's position by doing what ? He is closer to her by age, I admit that. What else ?

Posted by: Fido | August 26, 2008 5:32 PM | Report abuse

The Clintons owe Obama/Axelrod and the DNC absolutely NOTHING. If the roles were reversed, Obama/Axelrod would be screaming racist left and right.

Meanwhile they choose a running mate who won a total of 9,500 votes during the primary and described Obama as the "first clean articulate black politician"

Posted by: jt | August 26, 2008 5:32 PM | Report abuse

Since Hope Reigns Eternal, one would hop that Hilary would be smart, gracious, conciliatory, congratulatory, and full supportive of her party's nominee.

Note, pleas, HER PARTY'S NOMINEE.

That is hard for a hubristic person who was "entitled" from get-go.

Posted by: Richard McDonough | August 26, 2008 5:31 PM | Report abuse

Senator Clinton should not attack McCain.

McCain should win.

Then in 4 years, Clinton can run again because McCain will either have screwed things up, be too sick, or have passed away.

Posted by: Democrats turned Independents | August 26, 2008 5:31 PM | Report abuse

So how exactly did Barack Obama lie or cheat Hillary2012?

Posted by: Jmull836 | August 26, 2008 5:31 PM | Report abuse

Hillary got 18 million votes
obama's name has 18 letters

18 is the magic number. Must be the year of the 6...so obama will now loss by 6 million votes and the DNC will blame Hillary because they won't be able to blame themselves for promoting an empty suit.

Posted by: Syl | August 26, 2008 5:30 PM | Report abuse

There's no doubt that HRC, unlike Ted Kennedy in his younger days, will do the right thing to unite the party. The cause is national and not personal.

Posted by: Liup | August 26, 2008 5:30 PM | Report abuse

Mark your talking like an idiot.. Im not even white you moron....The main problem that Obama and DNC continue to forget is that people want their voices heard when they vote... When you tamper with the primaries and have it swing your way, people are not going to forget... Why vote for a party who does not want to recognize your vote... There is a price to pay when don't want to recognize the votes of 18 million people... OBANOS NOTHING..

McCain 08

Posted by: quentin | August 26, 2008 5:30 PM | Report abuse

What Hillary has to do is pull the nation up from these childish, petty, small issues,and lay out the reality that is facing us as a nation. She has got to tell us, we have got to rise above the little things, and deal with the big defining issues of our times. Once this is clear, the choice is easy.

Posted by: Susan | August 26, 2008 5:30 PM | Report abuse

Hillary apologize?
let Obama apologize first for running a smear campaign,for dissing the most successful presidential term repeatedly and praising Reagan over president Clinton just because the presidents wife happened to be his opponent in the primary.How is he gonna ask us to vote for democrats when he doesnt think that even the most successful democratic president of recent history wasnt good enough for America?(Dont ever tell me about the "change"crap again-we all now know that change means Biden!)

Posted by: Anonymous | August 26, 2008 5:29 PM | Report abuse

Obama made a huge mistake by not tapping her for the VP spot. He's overplayed his hand here.

Go McCain 08.

Posted by: knickerbocker | August 26, 2008 5:28 PM | Report abuse

Take note: Anyone here who says Hillary shouldn't attack McCain has just shown their hand as a closet Republican and McCain supporter. I fully expect Hillary to sacrifice her status as the McCainiacs favorite Democrat and the most amusing part will be watching McCain try to respond; if he attacks her back he undercuts his PUMA strategy.

Posted by: Frank | August 26, 2008 5:28 PM | Report abuse

HILLARY 2016

Posted by: anonon | August 26, 2008 5:28 PM | Report abuse

Five things that Hillary should do from a site that supported BO. (De Facto, at least.)

If Barack loses, they will blame it on Hillary, because they couldn't bear to see their chosen one lose.

Posted by: John | August 26, 2008 5:27 PM | Report abuse

HILLARY 2016

Posted by: anonon | August 26, 2008 5:27 PM | Report abuse

"Suppose you're a voter, and you've got candidate X and candidate Y. Candidate X agrees with you on everything, but you don't think that candidate can deliver on anything at all. Candidate Y you agree with on about half the issues, but he can deliver. Which candidate are you going to vote for?" (Bill Clinton)

Posted by: ClintonDem4Cynthia08 | August 26, 2008 5:27 PM | Report abuse

IF BO CAN'T UNITE HIS OWN PARTY WELL...

Posted by: TOM | August 26, 2008 5:27 PM | Report abuse

Take note: Anyone here who says Hillary shouldn't attack McCain has just shown their hand as a closet Republican and McCain supporter. I fully expect Hillary to sacrifice her status as the McCainiacs favorite Democrat and the most amusing part will be watching McCain try to respond; if he attacks her back he undercuts his PUMA strategy.

Posted by: Frank | August 26, 2008 5:27 PM | Report abuse

"Suppose you're a voter, and you've got candidate X and candidate Y. Candidate X agrees with you on everything, but you don't think that candidate can deliver on anything at all. Candidate Y you agree with on about half the issues, but he can deliver. Which candidate are you going to vote for?" (Bill Clinton)

Posted by: ClintonDem4Cynthia08 | August 26, 2008 5:26 PM | Report abuse

Take note: Anyone here who says Hillary shouldn't attack McCain has just shown their hand as a closet Republican and McCain supporter. I fully expect Hillary to sacrifice her status as the McCainiacs favorite Democrat and the most amusing part will be watching McCain try to respond; if he attacks her back he undercuts his PUMA strategy.

Posted by: Frank | August 26, 2008 5:25 PM | Report abuse

Why vote for a party that has destroyed the country's economy, its world standing, it's people's rights & freedoms and now has only corrupt and incompetent leaders.... Going to Obama...

Obama 08

Posted by: Tarantino | August 26, 2008 5:24 PM | Report abuse

It's amazing how many screwed up people are on these blogs.......I hope they can't vote! They are too stupid!!

Posted by: quinka | August 26, 2008 5:22 PM | Report abuse

You Clinton backers continue to mention the 18 million who voted for her. What about the 18 million who voted for HIM! Are they not just as important? She lost the contest-so get on with it.

An Independent for BO!

Posted by: Pam Reed | August 26, 2008 5:21 PM | Report abuse

It is not Hillary's job to unite the party. Obama is the "chosen" one, if he wants the party united then he has to convince us.

And it isn't going to happen. We don't like or trust Obama. He is the cause of the rift in the party, not Hillary. Obama is the one who lied and cheated to get the nomination, not Hillary.

Obama abandoned the center and now he is trying to weasel his way back. We don't believe your lies Obama. Your chicago gangster politics don't work on us.

Hillary represented our values. McCain isn't perfect but he is closer to us than Obama's extreme left radical notions. Obama abandoned us and McCain will win because of it.

Posted by: Hillary2012 | August 26, 2008 5:21 PM | Report abuse

You know what is funny? The people who have been disparaging her are so anxious that she will not support them. Would they be that gracious if the primary results turned out the exact opposite. She is good enough to be insulted but at the end of the day these insolent people still need her. She has been 1st lady twice, a senator in her own right twice, and her husband whom 90% of the black people call racist has been elected twice. Come on. His legacy is not at stake here. His record stands for better or worse. 22 million jobs were created. Why strong arm the Clintons? Lets really show that Obama is a class act. His bloggers really sound like thugs.

Posted by: BLSMendukung | August 26, 2008 5:20 PM | Report abuse

Beth?? Are u for real? Clinton owes Obama an apology?

Did you graduate high school?

Posted by: Michael | August 26, 2008 5:19 PM | Report abuse

Hillary should show unconditional support for O'bama. Only that will give us Democrat in White House and save the world form Looneys.

Posted by: Outsider | August 26, 2008 5:19 PM | Report abuse

Just because you as a white man feel inferior to a black brother who you want to be dominant (like Chris Matthews of MSNBC whose leg feels incredible sensation whenever he sees Obama), millions of other White, Asian and Hispanic men are NOT closeted homoerotics. They can stand a strong woman like HRC because their masculinity is not lacking by any means. They don't have to hide under the pants of a black brother.

Posted by: mark | August 26, 2008 5:19 PM | Report abuse

Attack Bush. Drive home what his administration has done and failed to do. Then show the famous picture of McCain in Bush's arms and ask, "Can we afford 4 more years?"

Posted by: Jim Porter | August 26, 2008 5:19 PM | Report abuse

Hillary should say (to her supporters):

"A vote for Barrack Obama is a vote for Me"

Posted by: caveman | August 26, 2008 5:18 PM | Report abuse

It seems that everybody understands that she will say what she has to say ,but in reality it's a forced speech. So let me guess, we think the whole country are the idiots and don't understand that. And if she trows a good speech we all will jump to support it. Unreal.

Posted by: PicassoInActions | August 26, 2008 5:18 PM | Report abuse

Hillary should say (to her supporters):

"A vote for barrack Obama is a vote for Me"

Posted by: caveman | August 26, 2008 5:17 PM | Report abuse

There is nothing that Mrs. Clinton can do to save the stupidity of the DNC and Obama... Why vote for a party that continued to disregard the 18 million people who did not vote for Obama.. Going to McCain..

McCain 08

Posted by: quentin | August 26, 2008 5:17 PM | Report abuse

There is nothing that Mrs. Clinton can do to save the stupidity of the DNC and Obama... Why vote for a party that continued to disregard the 18 million people who did not vote for Obama.. Going to McCain..

McCain 08

Posted by: quentin | August 26, 2008 5:16 PM | Report abuse

As a strong Obama supporter, I would love to hear some sort of apology, or acknowledgment, for her statements that went over the line running against a fellow Democrat. I realize this is never, ever, ever going to happen.

Posted by: Beth in VA | August 26, 2008 5:14 PM | Report abuse

I have a quarter here in case someone wants to make a call to someone who gives a damn.

American politics is a laughing stock.

Posted by: The Minder | August 26, 2008 5:13 PM | Report abuse

"Coincidentally, for Bill to have the legacy he wants (and, I think, deserves) he needs to have very positive impact on Barack's vote. And if Hillary is to have ANY sort of chance at the presidency in the future, she must, also, have a very positive impact. "Very positive impact" will be accorded only with an Obama win. That is a tall order - maybe unfairly - for the Clintons."

Yeah, this almost seems like an audition for her to campaign as a general election candidate. She isn't up for the top spot, but one has to figure she's in a good position whenever the next Democratic primary may be. Can she be a good campaigner? Can she really go after McCain?

Her 18 million votes are going to go away in November, but she has a chance to prove herself an effective campaigner. There are a lot of people who think this needs to be proven. Sure, she was close to Obama, but given all the advantages she had, shouldn't she have won in a landslide?

She still has something to prove and I think she will be out to prove it. The last thing she can do is half-ass this thing.

And yeah, she will go after McCain. She has, and she will continue to.

Posted by: DDAWD | August 26, 2008 5:11 PM | Report abuse

"Another prime example of the utter nastinss by Obama supporters towards any AA who dard to support HC. No wonder many Ds are seriously conidering leaving the party."

You gutlessly present a case of someone daring to snatch away the sense of entitlement that pervades the cult of Clinton. What stones this man must have to presume to run for elected office in a democracy.

Posted by: bondjedi | August 26, 2008 5:09 PM | Report abuse

Anonymous -

"She doesnt need to lie to the American people."

How do you know if she was lying then or now? After all, when she disparaged Obama for his alleged "unpreparedness" she was running against him. Wouldn't she have had more cause to lie then than she does tonight?

Posted by: JamesCH | August 26, 2008 5:04 PM | Report abuse

"She doesnt need to lie to the American people."

How do you know if she was lying then or now? After all, when she disparaged Obama for his alleged "unpreparedness" she was running against him. Wouldn't she have had more cause to lie then than she does tonight?

Posted by: JamesCH | August 26, 2008 5:02 PM | Report abuse

Excellent comments, Chris! I believe Hillary tonight and Bill tomorrow will do similarly as you described.

I hope "their" people still listen to them. If some of the wild comments from your Blog readers the last few days really have been from Clinton supporters, I wonder if anything Hillary and Bill can say will change their positions.

Posted by: Byron | August 26, 2008 5:02 PM | Report abuse

Another prime example of the utter nastinss by Obama supporters towards any AA who dard to support HC. No wonder many Ds are seriously conidering leaving the party.

"DENVER — Hours before the deadline, Houston restaurateur and prominent Barack Obama supporter Marcus Davis said today he may become a write-in candidate in the Nov. 4 election against U.S. Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee, who originally supported Hillary Rodham Clinton for president."

Is this your example of party unity?

Posted by: Anonymous | August 26, 2008 5:01 PM | Report abuse

Hillary can ask the democrats to unite and elect another democrat.She doesnt need reverse any of her previous statement especially whether he is ready to be commander in chief issue.She doesnt need to lie to the American people.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 26, 2008 4:59 PM | Report abuse

Being that we sit on the verge of the Great Catharsis, I will remain quiet and let it run its course.

Have it. Love it. Purge your angst.

Tomorrow you have a serious choice to make.

Posted by: Susan | August 26, 2008 4:59 PM | Report abuse

Hillary can ask the democrats to unite and elect another democrat.She doesnt need reverse any of her previous statement especially whether he is ready to be commander in chief issue.She doesnt need to lie to the American people.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 26, 2008 4:59 PM | Report abuse

I recall another high profile New York politician- Mario Cuomo, who brought down the house in 1984. Unfortunately, Reagan was re-elected in a landslide, but that does not diminish the power of his speech which used his own family to define the democratic party and contrast the democratic principles with Republicans. If Clinton can clearly define the differences between democrats and republicans in a way that emotionally connects with her audience (I'm betting she can), that will go a LONG way toward changing the narrative and setting the stage for her husband and Obama on Thursday.

Posted by: BillBolducinMaine | August 26, 2008 4:58 PM | Report abuse

Actually Chris, you're right on about Hillary attacking McCain. She has to walk back some of the praise she's given him on the campaign trail.

By the way, for those of you who say she doesn't have to be Obama's attack dog because she's not his VP, I have a little piece of political strategy for you. If you have a candidate who is "taking the high road", then everybody who operates as a surrogate, from the VP on down, has to be ready to go negative if the situation allows or requires.

Posted by: JamesCH | August 26, 2008 4:58 PM | Report abuse

I recall another high profile New York politician- Mario Cuomo, who brought down the house in 1984. Unfortunately, Reagan was re-elected in a landslide, but that does not diminish the power of his speech which used his own family to define the democratic party and contrast the democratic principles with Republicans. If Clinton can clearly define the differences between democrats and republicans in a way that emotionally connects with her audience (I'm betting she can), that will go a LONG way toward changing the narrative and setting the stage for her husband and Obama on Thursday.

Posted by: BillBolducinMaine | August 26, 2008 4:57 PM | Report abuse

Excellent comments Chris!!! I hope fervently that Hillary follows your outline. As an optimist, I believe she will. Furthermore, I believe Bill will, also, tomorrow.

Because of the race issue, Obama's task ahead, particularly with the 60+ year olds (of which I am one) is daunting. Obama has to have the Clintons solidly with him.

Coincidentally, for Bill to have the legacy he wants (and, I think, deserves) he needs to have very positive impact on Barack's vote. And if Hillary is to have ANY sort of chance at the presidency in the future, she must, also, have a very positive impact. "Very positive impact" will be accorded only with an Obama win. That is a tall order - maybe unfairly - for the Clintons.

Posted by: Byron | August 26, 2008 4:54 PM | Report abuse

I stand corrected by the post previous to mine. A few juveniles are on the boards today.

BB

Posted by: Fairlington Blade | August 26, 2008 4:53 PM | Report abuse

I agree with your first 3 pointsChris bbut not on attacking McCain.Obama can do it himself.Hillary and McCain have a lot of respect for each other and there is no need for Hillary further worsen her negatives by attacking a war hero when Obama himself is acting like he is taking the high road.

Posted by: SS | August 26, 2008 4:53 PM | Report abuse

THE ONLY THING HIL HAS TO DO: SIGNAL THAT HER SUPPORTERS
MUST REJECT OBAMA AS THE DEM STANDARD-BEARER

• The Answer: Barack for VP, Under Hillary or Al Gore

• Stop the "Silent" Hotel room vote; It's Anti-democratic and Stalinistic

Obama has turned autocratic and obstinate.

He had more than two months to unite the party.

He failed to do so.

He could have reached out to Clinton, swallowed his pride and united the party by offering her the VP slot.

He failed to do so.

Obama could have adopted a "working person's hero" strategy, emphasizing the economy and showing empathy to the struggles of everyday people.

He failed to do so.

Obama could have spent the late summer working hard every day to win over his skeptics, being present on the scene during the recent crisis in Georgia, not lazing on the beach on vacation.

He failed to do so.

Now it's up to the delegates. Do they stick with a flagging candidate -- one who repeatedly has failed to close the deal; one who has vacillating on the issues; one who has repeatedly demonstrated his hubris; one who has cloaked himself in empty rhetoric and who has yet to spell out just what he means by "change"?

Today's comments by PA Gov. Ed Rendell speak volumes. When Rendell says the Dems are in danger of losing the Keystone State, you know it's "condition critical."

The Dems cannot afford to lose. Obama, one again, is looking like he can't close the deal.

This is the Dems' last chance to rescue themselves from what increasingly is looking like a losing proposition.

Hillary must convince the delegates that she will wholeheartedly support the Democratic candidate.

She also must signal that the candidate at the top of the ticket must be someone other than Barack Obama.

BUT WILL THE ELECTION EVEN MATTER? Not when government-supported "vigilante injustice" squads are "gang stalking" American citizens, making a mockery of the rule of law:

http://www.nowpublic.com/world/get-political-vic-livingston-opinion-expose-state-supported-vigilante-squads-doing-domestic-terrorism


Posted by: scrivener | August 26, 2008 4:41 PM | Report abuse

This is a pretty good commentary. The only thing I don't agree with is (4). Clinton shouldn't go after McCain.

Obama would be entitled to ask Clinton to be his attack dog if she was his VP. He can't ask or expect her to do that if she's not.

Furthermore, Obama's going to lose and McCain will be the next president. Her favorables have gone up a lot in the past few months with Republicans and she should foster that because it would help her work more effectively in the Senate.

Finally, she and McCain are professional friends, whereas Obama and McCain are not. This is a distasteful expectation.

That said, she can volunteer to attack McCain, if she feels this is the best way to unite the party without saying things she doesn't believe, like Obama would be a great president BECAUSE _____ (she honestly cant' fill in the blank).

Posted by: AsperGirl | August 26, 2008 4:40 PM | Report abuse

You know, she could end up saving the convention and, in turn, Obama's campaign. What irony.


http://www.political-buzz.com

Posted by: Anonymous | August 26, 2008 4:31 PM | Report abuse

You know, she could end up saving the convention and, in turn, Obama's campaign. What irony.


http://www.political-buzz.com

Posted by: Matt | August 26, 2008 4:30 PM | Report abuse

Wow. The comments today are quite reasonable. Where's Zouk, AsperGirl, and Iowatreasures when you don't need them?

I think that Clinton would have been pressured into adding Obama to the ticket had she won the nomination with a majority of supers and a minority of pledged delegates. I'm disappointed that she wasn't considered for Veep, but not shocked. It's a gamble that Obama made. He runs a tight ship and the Clintons would make that impossible. However, if he loses a close election, he only has himself to blame.

I disagree strongly with the notion that her presidential ambitions will be torpedoed if Obama wins. First off, you don't know what might happen over the course of 4 years. Second, she won't be that old in 8 years time. The Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton fatigue won't be a factor. Also, women do tend to live longer than men. I don't see Biden as a contender for the presidency in 8 years.
So, it's an open field once again, regardless of what happens in 2008. Finally, she has emerged from this election as a national party leader. Kennedy's approach and the aftermath of the 1980 convention ended his national hopes.

BB

Posted by: Fairlington Blade | August 26, 2008 4:28 PM | Report abuse

6. take your fatass back to losertown inbred freak

Posted by: dick cabesa | August 26, 2008 4:28 PM | Report abuse

HRC must say:

If you are pro-choice, you must vote for BO.

If you believe in Universal Health Care, you must vote for BO

If you believe it's more important to provide tax relief to the workers of America than to companies that ship job overseas, than you must vote for BO

If you believe that....(you get the point)


And that is why I am 100% committed to ensuring BO is elected president. Because on issue after issue Barack Obama is right and John McCain is wrong.

My friends, the stakes are simply too high. If we let hurt feelings keep us on the sidelines, than that woman I met in (fill in the story about X) will go another 4 years without the health care she needs. We can't let that happen.

Posted by: JT | August 26, 2008 4:25 PM | Report abuse

"Hillary Clinton will do the right thing. She will say Obama is ready to be commandar and chief and will be a great steward for the economy."

I think so as well. I don't think she believed for a second half of the things she said during the primaries. She knows Obama won fair and square. I think Bill Clinton still takes it personally and blames Obama for how he was characterized after South Carolina.

But Hillary will go all out for Obama. Its in her interest not to seem as someone wishing for him to lose. She issued a very forceful response to her being used in McCain ads. (by the way, I think this strategy is going to have a HUGE backlash)

Posted by: DDAWD | August 26, 2008 4:22 PM | Report abuse

This is not reality. This fight between HRC people and Obama's people is not real. I must admit it's a great story for the networks. It also serves repubs well in keeping everyone atention from real issues. People please vote with the issues not news stories and talking points. If you feel Mcain is right for this nation vote for him. If you believe Obama is right for the nation vote for him. Stop the stupidity, it's not getting our great nation anywhere. Let's have a real debate about where we want to go. When were done talking let's go out and get it done.

Posted by: Jrock | August 26, 2008 4:12 PM | Report abuse

good observations. i have been asking the question "what if the roles were reversed during the last month of the primaries?" pundits and voters alike would have been pouncing on Obama to get out. imagine the reaction if he acted as if he were entitled to the VP post as Clinton and supporters did, or a slot at the convention for he and his wife, or if his supporters were threatening to disrupt the convention and insisted on a vote count. i cannot imagine how voters and the media would have treated him.

Posted by: zegtad | August 26, 2008 4:09 PM | Report abuse

I think Hillary will do what is right by Obama and the Party.
The former president, Bill is the bigger problem. I voted for him, I supported him, and I defended him. Now I am tired of him and his me, me, poor me attitude. I am six months older than you, Bill, and it is time to grow up. It is no longer about you, Bill. It is about the country, the Party, and our candidate, Senator Obama. Get on board or get the hell out of the way. We are tired of your BS (Bill S--t). Your wife has shown to be a better man than you!

Posted by: John Brazo | August 26, 2008 4:06 PM | Report abuse

Hillary Clinton will do the right thing. She will say Obama is ready to be commandar and chief and will be a great steward for the economy.

Posted by: farah | August 26, 2008 4:02 PM | Report abuse

Billy C. Turner - Obama supporters would be irked. Most of us would vote for Clinton, however, no problem. Even the few, like myself, that loathe the Clinton's would have voted for her. The alternative is JOHN MCCAIN and four more years of Bushenomics that would gut this country like a fish. The fact is, most of Hillary's policies are exactly the same as Obama's policies. Either one could and would lead this country out of the mess that NeoCon policies have landed us in.
As for tonight, I expect a little bit of inflamatory speech by some women who thought it was their turn and I expect Hillary Clinton to go out of her way to quash that sort of thing. She will be elegant, faithful to the party and to the country, and will demonstrate precisely why she also would have made a darn good President.

Posted by: mibrooks27 | August 26, 2008 3:58 PM | Report abuse

I can only wonder whether the pundits would have been just as accommodating to Barak Obama had he lost. Would Hillary Clinton be pressured into taking him as her VP? Have the masses forgotten Clintons' disgrace in the White House? Has anyone checked to see just how many Republicans voted for Hillary Clinton, hoping she would be the nominee, so that it would be easier for McCain to defeat her?

Posted by: Billy C. Turner | August 26, 2008 3:47 PM | Report abuse

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