Network News

X My Profile
View More Activity

Giuliani's Ads

Even as Sen. John McCain's (R-Ariz.) campaign was collapsing, former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani was moving to answer questions about whether he could compete organizationally with former Gov. Mitt Romney (R-Mass.)

Over the past few weeks, it seems like an email touting a new Iowa or New Hampshire supporter arrives in The Fix's email inbox daily and it's also no accident that Giuliani's press team has stepped up its efforts of late. (Politico's Jonathan Martin has a story addressing the increased metabolism in Rudy world.)

Today Giuliani took another step in showing he is serious about Iowa and New Hampshire by launching a trio of radio ads in the two states touting his accomplishments as mayor of New York City and outling portions of this "Twelve Commitments." (You can listen to the ads here.)

The moves by Giuliani show that his campaign understands (or at least believes) that the race has changed fundamentally. With McCain bounced out of the top-tier, Giuliani is likely to get a lot more attention from his potential rivals -- as evidenced by the memo sent out by Romney's campaign over the weekend.

For most voters, Giuliani is still a two-dimensional figure -- he is known for being the mayor of New York City on Sept. 11, 2001 and little else. For the coming weeks (and months) Giuliani's rivals will likely work to fill out that image with facts (pro choice, pro gay rights) that will make the full Giuliani picture much less attractive to Republican primary voters. Giuliani, on the other hand, will spend his time seeking to define himself as a tax-cutting, crime-fighting conservative -- the first step of which are the ads he has launched.

The battle to define Giuliani's identity will be the preeminent struggle on the Republican side in the next few months. Expect more barbs thrown Hizzoner's way and watch how hard (and how quickly) his campaign pushes back.

By Chris Cillizza  |  July 23, 2007; 3:40 PM ET
Categories:  Eye on 2008  
Save & Share:  Send E-mail   Facebook   Twitter   Digg   Yahoo Buzz   Del.icio.us   StumbleUpon   Technorati   Google Buzz   Previous: Democrats Gather in S.C. for CNN/YouTube Debate
Next: Hello From.....

Comments

My name is Elena. To me of 20 years.
I would like to get acquainted with you if you not against.
I Look forward to hear you soon with impatience. Adult Dating[url=http://toplop.com/?idAff=59]Adult Dating[/url]

Posted by: datindpml | September 2, 2007 3:06 PM | Report abuse

ktzjq9jroquj0 8mi9abo5vtnqj9j4z [URL=http://www.378800.com/870116.html] les684071u6v3 [/URL] rgdhp4hogv9obo

Posted by: 0gpuzjle6h | September 1, 2007 10:50 AM | Report abuse

My name is Elena. To me of 20 years.
I would like to get acquainted with you if you not against.
I Look forward to hear you soon with impatience. Adult Dating[url=http://toplop.com/?idAff=59]Adult Dating[/url]

Posted by: datindxla | August 24, 2007 7:52 PM | Report abuse

h64qcnbd1yx m5hn6xgof [URL=http://www.177280.com/390246.html] ibvfbeq0s7e [/URL] ac2ukq6yt4ync

Posted by: g8skcd64vu | August 17, 2007 1:29 AM | Report abuse

s7e18gtz44sku8gol tvx8no1ggq [URL=http://www.371436.com/103813.html] sk9e2b1rvt3nvotm [/URL] hsej3krlm

Posted by: 0b9j8m3357 | August 14, 2007 2:27 PM | Report abuse

g01qe1le89zf2 3gfz15185qb1e7k8 [URL=http://www.430437.com/1062197.html] ho9nc4d8jvphbov [/URL] f6f1j0iqbiwsnsnq

Posted by: m0pc8zw1oj | August 7, 2007 4:12 AM | Report abuse

r7qeqcd4egi nsdjtizysd [URL=http://www.600208.com/866395.html] hag2sq5a899oabk7 [/URL] b7beurb5dw18njxl

Posted by: c4s4ufh55x | August 3, 2007 10:25 PM | Report abuse

MikeB - Thanks for replying.

If you had studied con law you probably would have read the debate preceding the adoption of the 14thA.

The Congress did mean the clause about all persons born here being citizens.
The debate was whether the children of the coolies who built the transcontinental rr
would be citizens. It was feared that Cal would be drowned in a yellow wave of babies.

So this is not new, and the S.Ct. never misinterpreted it.

Posted by: Mark in Austin | July 23, 2007 11:19 PM | Report abuse

Mark In Austin - "Self Deportation" hasn't been tried and I think it would work, but there are a few poblems with it. First, we have this crazy ntion that any child born here is automatically a U.S. citizen. Now, nowhere else, in any Western country, is this the law. It is even a fairly recent belief here. And, it is used by illegal immigrants and their apologists as an excuse to allow in illegals. When was the last time you read some sob story in the Post about a family being broken up? Well, THAT is the result of the 14th Amendment's being misinterpreted. That needs to be challenged in court and, if the Supreme's decide that the children of illegals are citizens, we need a Constitutional Amendment to prohibit that. The Pryor Decision stuick states with educating and providing health care for ilegals. That needs to be done away with also. It is nothing more than an invitation for illegal immigration. Do away with government's owing them anything and cut them off from government programs as well as jobs and there is no excuse for them to stay. This sounds "radial", only because the debate on this issue has gotten completely out of hand. The apologists will accuse anyone supportive of American workers as being a racist, which I am not. The right will continually look for cheaper prices and cheaper labor and will use illegals and other immigrants as slaves and indentured servants to acheive those ends. No other Wesern country has he sort of insanity we do with regards to immigration. They actively seek out and deport illegal immigrants and they forbid immigrants who will take jobs from their own citizens. That is the *civilized* thing to do. A country that cannot feed and provide jobs for their own citizens has no ecuse, no reason to even exist. Likewise, any corporation that outsources their jobs or uses foreign guest workers, is nothing more than an unwanted burden on the American taxpayer and the infrastructure provided by this country. Put them out of business.

Posted by: MikeB | July 23, 2007 7:38 PM | Report abuse

MikeB -

Assume that we can get hardened IDs, tougher employment oversight, and more and better border controls from a hypothetical Administration and Congress. I have read you to say you want to find the undocs and send them home. Others say undocs will leave when the jobs dry up, and we would not have to pay for mass deportations. Are you OK with the
"self deportation" view that I describe?

Posted by: Mark in Austin | July 23, 2007 7:04 PM | Report abuse

getting back on topic(for once). i guess rudy has realized that writing off iowa and new hampshire was a HUGE mistake! sure focusing on florida and cali maybe a winning game plan, but what if that romney wins nh or fred thompson wins iowa? he could be looking at a snowball effect that could knock him out on superduper tuesday.

seeing the current crop of gop canidates i would have to theorize the top 3 canidates are rudy mitt and fred(just annoucne already!) the rest are just background noise.rudy represents the moderate wing of the party, socially liberal and econmically conservative. fred appeals to the southern conservative wing and mitt is your basic(alleged)conservative. unfortunately there is no one in either a true reagan/ghw bush mode or the neo conservative running. john mc cain would have fit that discription but his campagin is on life support and it remains to be seen if he survives past labor day, or say the first primaries.

and i would like to say one thing to the zouk/anoncoward/rufas poster here.the level of discourse is getting to the level of the yahoo message boards. could you please go into a room with 2X4's and just have it out with each other?you know work out some of that pent up anger(or is it sexual frustration?) its getting to the point of being disruptive! who ever comes out of that room alive gets to be the offical fix troll. agreed? good!

Posted by: spartan | July 23, 2007 7:03 PM | Report abuse

Zouk asked me. "Show me where treason is illegal."

Did you find treason being illegal (plotting with an EXTERNAL enemy AGAINST THE US) in that article?

Posted by: rufus | July 23, 2007 6:31 PM | Report abuse

"In law, treason is the crime of disloyalty to one's nation. A person who betrays the nation of their citizenship and/or reneges on an oath of loyalty and in some way willfully cooperates with an enemy, is considered to be a traitor. Oran's Dictionary of the Law (1983) defines treason as: "...[a]...citizen's actions to help a foreign government overthrow, make war against, or seriously injure the [parent nation]." In many nations, it is also often considered treason to attempt or conspire to overthrow the government, even if no foreign country is aided or involved by such an endeavour."

Posted by: nice try | July 23, 2007 6:27 PM | Report abuse

TITLE 18 > PART I > CHAPTER 115 > § 2381

§ 2381. Treason

Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

Posted by: 18 United States Code | July 23, 2007 6:27 PM | Report abuse

TITLE 18 > PART I > CHAPTER 115 > § 2381

§ 2381. Treason

Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 23, 2007 6:26 PM | Report abuse

"Unfortunately, they're law-breakers, and we have to be a nation of laws."

They should fit right in with bush and YOUR gop then, right mike

Posted by: rufus | July 23, 2007 6:25 PM | Report abuse

I would point out that the Republicans showed up to an msNBC debate. Meanwhile, the Democrats boycotted Fox."

Msnbc is all conservative other than ONE guy. ONE guy. (olberman)

Matthews/tucker/scarbough all RNC. Research before opening your fingers:) Another Fox news lie. The "liberal" media doesn't exist. If it did we wouldn't be in iraq right now. You show your face with the basless comparision

Posted by: rufus | July 23, 2007 6:24 PM | Report abuse

Loudoun, I apologize for having offended you by suggesting that your ultimate vote was predictable. I, of course, do not know how you will vote, nor do I know how Cassandra, Mike, or proud will vote.
I welcome their tuition as well.

So that you understand why a simpleton lawyer in Texas like me could have erred, it came from my having read phrases from you like

"... contard-dominated GOP..."

that seemed weighted with, oh, a certain level of contempt for that entire one-third of the country who register as Rs.

Now I am led to understand that you were merely exaggerating to make a point, and that you are open to many views.

Colin, may I substitute you for LV in my example of persons whose ultimate vote in the Presidential election will be predictably D?

Posted by: Mark in Austin | July 23, 2007 6:23 PM | Report abuse

"Sell the cow? Or just the milk? Murdoch says he wants to exploit the credibility of the Dow Jones brand name for a proposed cable business-news channel. He calculates that buying the whole company is the most economical way to purchase that credibility. But that doesn't mean it's the most profitable way for the Bancrofts to dispose of it.

News organizations can transmit their reporting through different arrangements, including syndication, licensing and content sharing. If Murdoch wants Dow Jones' content, that content can be supplied through methods that don't mean the end of Dow Jones as an independent entity. For instance, Murdoch could offer Dow Jones a half interest in a new business-news channel in exchange for access to its reporting. That would preserve the independence and reputation of Dow Jones, bring its news-gathering expertise to viewers -- and create a long-term income stream for the Bancrofts. It's the difference between selling your cow for a one-time payment and selling her milk every day. Murdoch would rather buy the cow -- but if you're the farmer, why should you sell? "

Posted by: Murdoch a cow? | July 23, 2007 6:20 PM | Report abuse

http://www.alternet.org/waroniraq/51150/

1. Invoke a terrifying internal and external enemy.(liberals/terrorist/activists/democrats)
2. Create a gulag.( guantonemo/secret euro prisons)
3. Develop a thug caste.(dittoheads/ex-military/cow folk)
4. Set up an internal surveillance system. (patriot act)
5. Harass citizens' groups.( fox and rush/right-wing attack machine attacking all dissenters)
6. Engage in arbitrary detention and release.(Guantonemo again, secret prisons)
7. Target key individuals.(right-wing attack machine attacking all dissent)
8. Control the press.( the entire tv media and ALL of radio. CNN Fox MSNBC(not counting olberman) Murdoch attempt to buy and control all mediums)
9. Dissent equals treason.( you are with us or against us)
10. Suspend the rule of law.( i don't recall. executive privledge)

"All U.S. presidents since 1989 have been Yale graduates, namely George H. W. Bush, Bill Clinton (who attended the University's Law School along with his wife, New York Senator Hillary Clinton), and George W. Bush, and Vice President Dick Cheney, (although he did not graduate). Many of the 2004 presidential candidates attended Yale: Bush, John Kerry, Howard Dean, and Joe Lieberman.

Other Yale-educated presidents were William Howard Taft (B.A.) and Gerald Ford (LL.B). Alumni also include several Supreme Court justices, including current Justices Clarence Thomas and Samuel Alito."


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prescott_Bush

"Harriman Bank was the main Wall Street connection for German companies and the varied U.S. financial interests of Fritz Thyssen, who had been an early financial backer of the Nazi party until 1938, but who by 1939 had fled Germany and was bitterly denouncing Hitler. Business transactions for profit with Nazi Germany were not illegal when Hitler declared war on the United States (December 11, 1941), but, six days after the attack on Pearl Harbor, President Franklin Delano Roosevelt signed the Trading With the Enemy Act after it had been made public that U.S. companies were doing business with the declared enemy of the United States. On October 20, 1942, the U.S. government ordered the seizure of Nazi German banking operations in New York City. President Franklin Roosevelt's Alien Property Custodian, Leo T. Crowley, signed Vesting Order Number 248 seizing the property of Prescott Bush under the Trading with the Enemy Act. The order, published in obscure government record books and kept out of the news, cited only the Union Banking Corporation (UBC) connections with Von Thyssen. Fox News has reported that recently declassified material "The 4,000 Union Banking shares owned by the Dutch bank were registered in the names of the seven U.S. directors, according a document signed by Homer Jones, chief of the division of investigation and research of the Office of Alien Property Custodian, a World War II-era agency that no longer exists"[2]."

Posted by: rufus | July 23, 2007 6:19 PM | Report abuse

MikeB -- Thanks for the thoughtful discussion. I agree with much of what you said, most especially that ALL of the candidates need to be asked the TOUGH questions.

I would point out that the Republicans showed up to an msNBC debate. Meanwhile, the Democrats boycotted Fox.

This YouTube thing might be a good idea, so long as the questions are tough (and un-filtered) and the answers are longer than a sound byte. (Towards that end, I would really like the Kusinich's and the Tommy Thompson's and Ron Paul's to drop out.)

I agree that a lot of the so-called conservatives don't have a realistic stance on immigration as well.

However, I think there are two entirely different reasons for wanting amnesty (or some variant).


I think Bush genuinely empathizes with these people, who have risked their lives to come here, and who (for the most part) want to make a better life for their families. Unfortunately, they're law-breakers, and we have to be a nation of laws.

Conversely, Ted Kennedy was singing Latin American music on a Mexican radio station, not because he empathizes with these poor immigrants, but because he wants to ensure 20 million permanent Democratic voters. And doing anything for the sake of your party, as Rufus says, is treasonous.

Posted by: Mike | July 23, 2007 6:19 PM | Report abuse

According a report on CNN today, the middle and working class housing market is cratering, but the market for homes over $10 million is booming.

The New Gilded Age is here.

Posted by: what the con movement is about | July 23, 2007 6:16 PM | Report abuse

The misconception is that there is a lot support for the republican ticket in '08.
As was mentioned previously, most of the independents will not be voting for any of the republicans and most likely will vote for democrats. I think the beltway bloggers are somewhat misguided into thinking that the "republican base" is still as strong, energized and committed as they were in 2004. From my observations, they appear to be disillusioned and demoralized by all the scandals and the betrayals by party officials and operatives in Washington.
Personally, Mr. Paul appears to be the one candidate who can speak without insulting my intelligence and can articulate a simple message sans the proselytizing and "demongoguery". I no longer care about "social issues" as a measure of a good politician as it's nothing more than empty and petty rhetoric. I no longer care about who is more or less righteous than me since there does not appear to be standard bearer who can at least do the minimum of what God asks-- to respect one's neighbor. I do care about the direction of this country as one united nation and repairing the damage caused by this president who has no allegiance to our standards, values or morals. When the candidates can think about our votes on these simple terms, my faith in our future may perhaps be restored.

Posted by: glenknowles | July 23, 2007 6:14 PM | Report abuse

July 22, 2007 | The coming week may determine whether the nation's foremost provider of business news, the Wall Street Journal, remains independent or is acquired by Rupert Murdoch's News Corp. Murdoch's $60-per-share bid for the Journal's parent, Dow Jones & Co., shows that the company has long-term value. The question now is this: Which family will reap that value: the Murdochs or the Bancrofts?

Of course, there's more at stake than the personal fortunes of the Murdoch family and the Bancroft family, which for a century has controlled Dow Jones. I'm a newscaster for the Wall Street Journal Radio Network and the president of the union local that represents 2,000 Dow Jones employees, including its rank-and-file journalists throughout North America. I believe our members' interests are best served by adherence to the principle of editorial independence within a company whose only mission is reporting the news. As journalists and union members we see no upside in reducing Dow Jones to a tiny appendage of a global conglomerate with financial, political and regulatory interests alien to what we do.

But this is not just a sentimental attachment to fearless and independent journalism. No one looks at business with clearer eyes than the reporters and editors at Dow Jones. Because many of us are shareholders too, we would even make some quick money off the sale. Yet we think the takeover is bad business. Not just bad for journalism, bad for readers, bad for advertisers, but bad for the long-term interest of shareholders, most of all the Bancrofts. Here's why: "

Here's a start. A conflict Murdoch never wanted or expected. The WRITERS are revolting over this. HAHAHAHHA.


He has a year, maybe less. What will you fascists do without your propogating avatars?

Get out of the cave. I know it's bright at first, while your eyes adjust to REALITY. Take the blue pill :). The Red pill is slavery to an external avatar.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegory_of_the_cave

Posted by: rufus1133 | July 23, 2007 6:12 PM | Report abuse

Spelling ?You worried about spelling. You know zouk/CC mangles my words. Anything to take your minds off the topic at hand. Rather than whining and crying about content. Like you GOP'ers do ALL day EVERYDAY ( whether on this site or hannity rush o'reilly lying about the phantom "liberal media"). Instead of crying why not tell me how I'm wrong. Instead of crying and whining why not go elsewhere.

Crying doesn't become you zouk. It steals you manhood. I know you gop'ers are under devoloped elementary school kids who never quite got past that point, but ooo well. I'm forcing you to grow up. I'm forcing you to talk about REAl subjects rather than attacking all day or propogating. Attacking me show you face. You have to attack. If you don't your party is gone POOF.

Gop'ers. Your party has one year of relevance. Rather than wasting that year lying discrediting/attacking and spinning. Why not fix the problems you have caused the last 15 years? Rather than digging yourselves deeper in the hole.

You have a year. Use it wisely. As is the GOP is done for a generation. Don't hate me. Look in the mirror. Think about the future. Think about the history books. Think about your children.

Continue down the same Fascsit road at your own perile.

You have a year GOP. Use it wisely.

Posted by: rufus | July 23, 2007 6:08 PM | Report abuse

Gop'ers. Your party has one year of relevance. Rather than wasting that year lying discrediting/attacking and spinning. Why not fix the problems you have caused the last 15 years? Rather than digging yourselves deeper in the hole.

You have a year. Use it wisely. As is the GOP is done for a generation. Don't hate me. Look in the mirror. Think about the future. Think about the history books. Think about your children.

Continue down the same Fascsit road at your own perile.

You have a year GOP. Use it wisely.

Posted by: Your party is done. | July 23, 2007 6:04 PM | Report abuse

Moonbat happy hour. all the hate you can stomach, courtesy of ignorant Kos Koward and his posse of fellow fools. Facts and figures keep out!

Posted by: Anonymous | July 23, 2007 6:03 PM | Report abuse

the con mantra - 'let them eat cake'

Posted by: Anonymous | July 23, 2007 6:01 PM | Report abuse

"Ignore the fact that big government is really the cause and that our Lib mantra is more, more, more big government."

But as soon as you gop'ers got FULL control they procedded to create the biggest government in the world. Hypocrites. You want big government if it fits your greedy ideology. If it inolves putting OUR tax dollars back into the country you are for it. YOu people would rather put those dollars in GOP pockets. Fascsists

Posted by: rufus | July 23, 2007 6:00 PM | Report abuse

Rufas - the war approval is rising, the Lib congress approval is sinking.

You have a year LIB. Use it wisely.
Your party has one year of relevance. Rather than wasting that year lying discrediting/attacking and spinning. Why not fix the problems you have caused the last 50 years? Rather than digging yourselves deeper in the hole.

It seems your actions/reactions are pathelogical - you can't help yourself. you and the multi-personality ignorant Kos koward. whose sole mission in life and in fact every day ALL day is to:

off to Kos and Huff and the nation to find something bad that happened somewhere in the world. I will then return and paste it here for your reading pleasure. If you hate like I do, you will blame everything on Bush personally. Yep, that koward.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 23, 2007 5:59 PM | Report abuse

'you better ignore all facts, like I do. Harboring this much hate and resentment causes all sorts of mental conditions.'

we know that zouk, and we all feel sorry for you. government should definitely not help poor children, it should let them die, don't you think? they're poor, after all, they don't deserve to live.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 23, 2007 5:58 PM | Report abuse

listen to dufus spell new words at your own perile.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 23, 2007 5:56 PM | Report abuse

Talking about Rudy is a waste of time. He has no chance. First off no chance of making it through the primaries. Second even if he does he "America's Mayor" tag will be ripped to shredds. I don't get you GOP'ers.

He had the first world trade center attack. did he stop 9/11. No. He didn't stop nothing. how is he this great leader. It's like you gop'ers saying how strong you are (now) against immagration. Regean offered the last amnesty 20 years ago. Bush 41, bush 43. What have you done to secure the border the last 20 years?

Thye gop is a joke. A party of lying hypocrites. You have a year. You are done for a generation

Gop'ers. Your party has one year of relevance. Rather than wasting that year lying discrediting/attacking and spinning. Why not fix the problems you have caused the last 15 years? Rather than digging yourselves deeper in the hole.

You have a year. Use it wisely. As is the GOP is done for a generation. Don't hate me. Look in the mirror. Think about the future. Think about the history books. Think about your children.

Continue down the same Fascsit road at your own perile.

You have a year GOP. Use it wisely.

Posted by: rufus1133 | July 23, 2007 5:53 PM | Report abuse

Democrats in voting to expand the program by $35 billion

spend, spend spend
more, more government
bush is evil
repeat
IKK

Posted by: Anonymous | July 23, 2007 5:53 PM | Report abuse

Ignore the fact that big government is really the cause and that our Lib mantra is more, more, more big government.

you better ignore all facts, like I do. Harboring this much hate and resentment causes all sorts of mental conditions I prefer not to cover. zouk is listening.
IKK

Posted by: Anonymous | July 23, 2007 5:50 PM | Report abuse

WASHINGTON -- As they tell the story in Texas, when George W. Bush was governor, he fought hard against a new federal-state plan to provide health insurance for children of low-wage workers in the state.

Now, almost 10 years later, President Bush is threatening to veto federal legislation that would renew the same partnership -- the State Children's Health Insurance Program -- and expand it to cover more of the nation's nearly 9 million poor and uninsured children.

If he follows through on that threat, Bush could face a first in his presidency: a veto override.

The bill is considered Washington's most important legislation this year on health coverage.

If the House and Senate approve the bill and Bush vetoes it, some Republicans say, there is a good chance that many in his own party would join with Democrats in overriding him.

Many Republicans are "very nervous," said Sen. Gordon H. Smith (R-Ore.), a supporter of a compromise formula that Bush opposes. "On the one hand, you've got the veto threat. On the other hand is the political importance of expanding healthcare for children. This is public policy broadly supported by the American people."

"I personally believe there is a reasonable chance he'll be overridden, but I don't want to make any predictions," said Sen. Orrin G. Hatch (R-Utah), one of the authors of the original program.

On Thursday, a 17-4 vote in the Senate Finance Committee to approve the compromise approach showed how unpopular Bush's position is in his own party. A majority of the panel's Republicans joined Democrats in voting to expand the program by $35 billion over five years, far more than the $5 billion in additional spending Bush has proposed.

"A lot of states and a lot of Republicans are invested in this," said Hoagland, now a policy advisor to health insurer Cigna Corp. "I think this is a dangerous one for him."

Posted by: bush hates poor children | July 23, 2007 5:49 PM | Report abuse

'By Samir Salama, Bureau Chief Abu Dhabi: The Food Control Authority in Abu Dhabi has warned consumers against risk of poisoning from a US-manufactured hot dog chili sauce, a senior official said yesterday'

The republican party has so gutted the agencies that are supposed to protect americans that even Abu Dhabi has higher standards.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 23, 2007 5:44 PM | Report abuse

I am off to Kos and Huff and the nation to find something bad that happened somewhere in the world. I will then return and paste it here for your reading pleasure. If you hate like I do, you will blame everything on Bush personally. Ignore the fact that big government is really the cause and that our Lib mantra is more, more, more big government. I am still trying to figure out how to blame things on GOPS now that Libs run congress. No fear, our fellow libs don't think things through so we should get away with any sort of idiocy I post.

Be back soon.

Posted by: ignorant Kos koward | July 23, 2007 5:43 PM | Report abuse

By Jon Cohen and Dan Balz Most Americans see President Bush as intransigent on Iraq and prefer that the Democratic-controlled Congress make decisions over a possible withdrawal of US forces, according to a new Washington Post-ABC News poll.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 23, 2007 5:42 PM | Report abuse

trash matthews all you want, zouk. he's the one that grovels for mccain, mitt and rudy. we on the left hate him. he goes off the air, i'm happy. he's been a cheerleader for the republican party too long.

Surprise! Bush's approval rating is cratering and suddenly administration officials are emitting ominous warnings about the imminence of another 9/11. Knowing these loathesome people as we by now do, can there be any doubt that they would see such an event as their salvation, the thing that would send Bush's numbers rocketing, just as the original attack did six years ago, when, a mere seven months after his inauguration, he was already widely perceived as an ignorant, arrogant, in-over-his-head failure.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 23, 2007 5:41 PM | Report abuse

JimD in FL writes
"There are a lot of conservatives whose priorities are fiscal restraint, immigration, law and order, and national security. I believe that there is a Republican constituency for Giuliani - someone who is fairly liberal on social issues and a solid conservative on economic and security issues"

You make a compelling argument. In the Post article on the GOP Govs not worrying that there's no front runner yet, it is reported that None of the Above still draws 24% (more than any particular candidate). The question in my mind is who makes up these 24%? Do they fit in the category you describe above as a potential constituency for Giuliani?

Posted by: bsimon | July 23, 2007 5:41 PM | Report abuse

Mike - I am well aware of the fact that most of the "liberals" running as Democrats were/are all for granting amnesty to the 20 million or so ilegals here. We are also well aware of the fact that the "conservatives" you tout all want to increase the number of "legal" immigrants who will take jobs from American's. Most of your "conservatives" want to increase the number of H1-B visas and wont do one thing to stop outsourcing. The sad fact is, both parties are so wedded to corporate interests that national security, the economy of this country, and the health of our Middle Class have been wrecked. The dollar, it was announced to, has fallen to a new low against the Euro. That rather flies in the face of the mindless crowing about how healthy our economy is. The voters know this. They are worried about the future. About their jobs, about the kind of country their children will inherit, about the very existance of this country. What they are getting, however, from both parties, is smoke and mirrors. The Pentagon only now is acknowledging that they need better armour to protect troops..after thousands have died needlessly. They still hand outsource basic health care for wounded soldiers to scumbag outfits like Halliburton subsidiaries, even with their track record at virtually every military hospital. Wounded and desparate veterans are now suing the government to get everything from promised medical care to college benefits. It's a mess and all of those records are handled by private companies, most of them offshored in India. So, don't go beating your breast about the hero's from the right. They are as scummy as the ones from the left. Clinton, Kennedy, Brownback, McCain, Romney, virtually all of them traded in any interest in this country for 20 pieces of silver. I am sitting here, waiting for the UTUBE debate, waiting for someone to ask these swine about this...and hoping that the press or whatever fool moderates this, allows these questions to get through and DEMANDS AN ANSWER. Right now, the Post, MSNBC, NYT, CNN, and FOX are al aware of the voters concersn, the reasons for the low Congressional approval rating, but no one appears wiloing to step up to the plate and actually ask the questions and demand answers.

Posted by: MikeB | July 23, 2007 5:40 PM | Report abuse

Mark in Austin:

And that, my friends, is the entire American Presidential election in a nutshell. The rest is commentary. Everybody needs my vote, and bsimon's, and JimD's, and JD's, and Truth's, but they all are currently selling to Mike, and proud, or to Cassandra and Loudoun, whose ultimate votes are known.


Wow, I didn't think you were such a simpleton. Just because I enjoy mocking drooling contards on these boards doesn't mean that some leftwingnut candidate will get my vote. Quite the contrary. Of course, the chance of the contard-dominated GOP nominating a non-contard is quite slim, but until we know who the nominees are you have no idea who I'm voting for.

Leftwingnuts on these boards just generally aren't as fun to mock (the English-language-challenged Rufus being on exception).

Posted by: Loudoun Voter | July 23, 2007 5:40 PM | Report abuse

Bush On Iraq Amputee: "Good Man, We're Gonna Get Him Some New Legs..."

Posted by: what a sick freak | July 23, 2007 5:39 PM | Report abuse

dear Ann Coulter,

if you're reading this, please reconsider coming on my show to save my ratings. I don't think I can sink any lower and keep my job. as you know, tired old Libs aren't exactly in big demand these days. My opportunity at Air america has vanished into air america. consider it welfare for ignorant big-mouthed pundits. I promise to let you talk 6% of the time, this is the most I have ever shut up. Please help me.

Posted by: chris Mathews | July 23, 2007 5:36 PM | Report abuse

Federal investigators have uncovered what they describe as a sweeping network of kickbacks, bribes and fraud involving at least eight employees and subcontractors of KBR, the Halliburton subsidiary, in a scheme to inflate charges for flying freight into Iraq in support of the war, according to court papers unsealed yesterday.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 23, 2007 5:36 PM | Report abuse

you sure have lots of time on your hands zouk. too bad no one reads your long posts full of lies. so you're mike, too? should have guessed.

''It's too bad the construction work on Sen. Lisa Murkowski's new lot has come to a stop because of a possible ethics investigation, Murkowski's husband said on an Alaska talk radio show last week.

Murkowski's husband, Verne Martell, ran through how he and his wife came to buy the property from millionaire real estate developer Bob Penney with radio show host Rick Rydell last Wednesday. Martell said that when it came time to sign the paperwork, Murkowski still had some reservations about it.

"But yeah, when we signed the loan, Lisa signed on it and said, you know, this might come back to bite us. Well, you know, we'll deal with that when it comes," Martell said.'

Posted by: Anonymous | July 23, 2007 5:34 PM | Report abuse

Mike -- this may blow your mind, but just b/c I'm a Democrat doesn't mean I liked/like Bill Clinton. So feel free to point out his errors -- won't bother me in the least.

As far as "ammesty" and Reagan, I don't recall him ever saying the '86 bill was a mistake. Nor do I remember Bush I or Bush II pushing to curtail illegal immigration - primarily b/c the money players in the GOP want it to continue. So it sounds to me like there's a whole wing of the GOP that differs on this issue. Which is fine - reasonable people within a party can disagree - but would seem to refute your point that a mythical "true" conservative can only have one view on the issue of immigration.

Posted by: Colin | July 23, 2007 5:33 PM | Report abuse

Pakistani leaders say President Bush said God told him to invade Iraq and Afghanistan.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 23, 2007 5:29 PM | Report abuse

'WASHINGTON (Map, News) - Dismissing the GOP presidential field as a "pathetic" bunch of "pygmies," Newt Gingrich hinted Monday he might step in to beat Democrats Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama.'

For once I agree with Newtie.

Posted by: drindl | July 23, 2007 5:27 PM | Report abuse

Colin -- It would be rather easy for me to point out plenty of inconsistencies with your savior Bill.

Reagan signed that in to law assuming it would be the last one, that the immigration laws would henceforth be enforced.

EVERY subsequent president is guilty of FAILING, including both Bush's and Clinton.

Posted by: Mike | July 23, 2007 5:26 PM | Report abuse

MSNBC's Chris Matthews, former speechwriter for disgraced former President Jimmy Carter and current host of the embarrassingly low-rated Hardball, appeared as a guest on Wednesday's Tonight Show.

His entire segment was a positively rabid anti-Bush, anti-Republican rant.

Jay Leno hardly said a word. He didn't need to speak since Matthews wouldn't shut up. He just railed and railed on Bush and the administration.

The MSNBC website describes Matthews as a "television news anchor with remarkable depth of experience" and "a broadcast journalist, newspaper bureau chief, Presidential speechwriter, and best-selling author."

The profile leaves out unhinged blowhard.

The segment began with Matthews' take on the Senate's fake all-night session.

He said:


What are fighting for over in Iraq right now?

Majority rule.

Well, the Republicans, for whatever reason, don't want majority rule.

And so they say they don't want to have a vote on the war. So they're using the threat of a filibuster. So the Democrats came up with this sort of PR stunt, to stay up all night, and sleep on the cots, and eat pizza, and act like it's for real.

But you know, they're trying to get a vote and it looks to me like they're trying to wear down... they got four Republicans now to join and they need about ten. That's what it's all about.

Let me see if I understand.

When the Republicans held the majority, and the Democrats didn't want to vote on the President's judicial nominees, they threatened a filibuster. That was doing the work of the people.
In other words, Dems don't obstruct, only evil Republicans do.

Matthews went on:


You know, this war is terrible. People hate it....

We took the whole American army and put it right in the middle of Arabia with no way out...

So if we leave, they attack us. If we stay, they attack us. I don't think it was very smart putting us in there.

Unfortunately, some in the audience applauded. That served to encourage Matthews to ratchet up his rant even more.

Next, Leno brought up a New York Times piece by David Brooks in which he writes that President Bush believes that God told him to invade Iraq.

Matthews insisted:


If he was gonna play Joan of Arc, we wouldn't have elected him. Getting whispers from heaven is scary business. I mean, the guys we're fighting say that, too.

The people that attacked us at the World Trade Center believe that God led them into the World Trade towers. I think we need a little more humility...

I think if President Bush had said this when he was running for office in 2000, he wouldn't have got anywhere near the White House.

People would say, 'This is messianic. This is scary. God's talkin' to me telling me that the world needs to be democratized.'

Leno set up Matthews so he could attack Bush for his faith and paint him as delusional.

Matthews puts the 9/11 terrorists on the same moral plane as President Bush.

That's really sick, meaning typical liberal drivel.

Then, Matthews went deeper off the deep end.


And by the way, let's not get so thrilled about our form of government. We have a good form of government for us and it works, and it works for a lot of people....

Are we selling this system? Is this what we're dying for? No, I think we're dying to protect this country and that's what a young soldier ought to be dying for if he has to die....

Matthews was really out of control.

I think he forgot that he was on the Tonight Show rather than yapping on his own MSNBC show that no one watches, or hanging out in Keith Olbermann's dressing room.

"[L]et's not get so thrilled about our form of government"?

What is that???

I'm thrilled with our form of government.

I guess the self-proclaimed enlightened elite liberals don't think it's anything special. I couldn't disagree more.

He continued his harangue:

The idea that we're on some Napoleonic crusade to spread Democracy in a part of the world where they may, if you let them vote, say they would choose to have their version of God rule their country.... I'm not sure what they would do, but one thing I know is it's not working. And we're stuck over there and they're shooting us....

Misinformation...the indoctrination that's going on....

The latest I heard this weekend was if the surge doesn't work, Bush is gonna want more troops.

He has snookered us again.

Translation: Bush lied to the American people. Bush brainwashed the American people. Bush is the enemy of the American people.


So I think we in journalism have got to stop being so scared of being unobjective and start focusing on our job which is to question, question, question. String 'em out.

Matthews is campaigning for a new brand of journalism, one that is subjective and pushes a specific political agenda. It's also known as propaganda.

He believes his role is to be a propagandist.

We got to stop treating politicians who get elected, and this crowd wasn't even exactly elected, stop treating them like dispensers of the truth. That's our biggest mistake....

I couldn't believe that he dragged out the tired old line that President Bush was selected, not elected.

Whatever Matthews may erroneously think of the 2000 election, he can't argue with the results of the 2004 election.

"This crowd" certainly was elected. Apparently, Matthews can't handle that truth.

Matthews then warned:

I think we gotta be damn skeptical about this crowd because on WMD, on the connection to 9/11, on this surge, every step of the way, on the torture, on every step of the way we've been given misinformation.

How did we get all this misinformation? From the top. Unfortunately. Sad thing.

It was quite a performance by Matthews.

He came right out and said that he thinks journalists should chuck the objectivity standard.

I think Matthews was worse than Bill Maher when he appeared with Leno on Monday night's show. At least with Maher, it's clear that he's an entertainer, albeit a not very entertaining one.

He doesn't have any journalistic credentials to uphold. Maher can be as offensive as he wants to be.

Matthews, on the other hand, can't deliver an on the record tirade like that and expect to be taken seriously as a journalist in the traditional sense.

He's a hack and he seems to be proud of it.

http://freedomeden.blogspot.com/2007/07/unobjective-chris-matthews-and-jay-leno.html

Posted by: facts again, poor kos koward | July 23, 2007 5:25 PM | Report abuse

Mike,

I think Thompson getting in will actually help Giuliani. Thompson will attempt to get to the right of Romney and they will both make strong appeals to the religious/social conservatives. There are a lot of conservatives whose priorities are fiscal restraint, immigration, law and order, and national security. I believe that there is a Republican constituency for Giuliani - someone who is fairly liberal on social issues and a solid conservative on economic and security issues. It is not a constituency that would normally win the Republican nomination. However, with two first tier candidates battling for the social conservatives it could be possible for Giuliani to win a lot of primaries with 33 to 40% of the vote. He will also pick up some support based on his 9/11 aura. I have seen anecdotal evidence that he is picking up a certain amount of support even from some evangelicals who know his social issue stands. I am not sure if that is sustainable. The longer it is a three way race, the better Giuliani's chances. I also believe that someone with those positions would appeal to a lot of swing voters. Giuliani might have a real advantage in crossover states.

I absolutely agree with you about Thomas Friedman's thesis but I don't think MikeB ever will. He has been personally hurt by outsourcing. Friedman also believes that the government needs to take a very active role in ameliorating the negative side effects of globalization.

Posted by: JimD in FL | July 23, 2007 5:25 PM | Report abuse


'hy didn't he ask, point blank, yes-or-no-only, "Do you believe in evolution" to the Democrats?'

Because even he knows none of them are stupid enough to discount one of the basic tenets of modern science.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 23, 2007 5:25 PM | Report abuse

Reagan sure liked signing amnesty bills. I suppose that means he wasn't conservative either...

Posted by: Colin | July 23, 2007 5:23 PM | Report abuse

No conservatives supported the amnesty bill (McCain is not a conservative).--


true -- only mussolini is a 'real' conservative

Posted by: Anonymous | July 23, 2007 5:23 PM | Report abuse

'I recommend The World is Flat, by Thomas L. Friedman (a NYT lib) '

he may call himself that, but he isn't. he is a laughingstock amng progressives.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 23, 2007 5:21 PM | Report abuse

matthews liberal? the man who drools all over rudy and mitt?

Mathews is definitely a lib.

Why didn't he ask, point blank, yes-or-no-only, "Do you believe in evolution" to the Democrats?

Perhaps the better question would have been "Do you believe in God"

And since he knew the answer, he probably didn't want to embarrass any of them by asking.

Posted by: Mike | July 23, 2007 5:21 PM | Report abuse

'If Giuliani has crossover appeal, that depresses me. '

He may have crossdressing appeal, but Dems in NY generally dislike him. His views and personality are closer to Mussolini than Reagan. Only a delusional goper could think he's appealing to Dems. Not on your life. He's more dangerous than bush/chdney.

Posted by: drindl | July 23, 2007 5:19 PM | Report abuse

18% > 14%

Posted by: Lib math lesson | July 23, 2007 5:19 PM | Report abuse

that nutjob you foisted off on the rest of us

you should have thought of that before you nominated two bigger nut jobs as the alternatives. you are about to do it again. and you wonder why you keep losing. Live and learn Lib dinosaur. or become extinct - as you are headed now.

Posted by: we tried, we failed, as usual | July 23, 2007 5:18 PM | Report abuse

'I happened to watch chris mathews last weekend (perhaps one of the few) and I dare say it was the most liberal love fest I have seen in quite a while. '

matthews liberal? the man who drools all over rudy and mitt?

as has been obvious for some time, zouk, you live in a quite separte 'reality' from the rest of us.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 23, 2007 5:17 PM | Report abuse

'In reports on the release of an online video critical of former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani's [R] 9-11 record, The New York Times, the Associated Press, and the New York Daily News reported former New York City firefighter Richard Sheirer's criticism of the video without noting that Sheirer is a senior vice president at Giuliani Partners LLC, a consulting firm established by Giuliani, who is still listed as the firm's chairman and chief executive officer.'

Posted by: The american rightwing media syndicate | July 23, 2007 5:14 PM | Report abuse

rid of that nutjob you foisted off on the rest of us.

that is called an election and was determined by the rules in place. I realize you still think you are emperor, but I am here to tell you, you're not. the support for the war has bottomed out and is now rising since the alternatives have never been clear or presented. the Lib agenda is DOA and they managed to raise the min wage 70 cents today. that was the best they can do and ends their efforts. the world now sees what a grave error it was to allow Pelosi and that clown reid to "run" the show. bush has double their approval ratings.

since the Libs have staked their claim to losing, they had better hope we hurry up and lose before we win and further humiliate them , if that is even possible. the giant government yearned for by so many Libs is a non-sequitar. we don't want government running/ruining our health care, pre-school, retirement, environment, political voice, etc. We don't want the enormous hillary taxes and nanny state.

your dance with hope is ending. Once the truth of the real Lib aganda gets out, on Fox news, despite the strangle hold on truth still managed by the MSM, you stand no chance.

Posted by: we tried, we failed, as usual | July 23, 2007 5:13 PM | Report abuse

'American support for the war in Iraq has risen somewhat '

yeah, i guess it's' risen' to about 18% at this point...

Posted by: Anonymous | July 23, 2007 5:12 PM | Report abuse

MikeB -- I don't understand your point.

No conservatives supported the amnesty bill (McCain is not a conservative).

Both Mitt and Rudy came out against it from the start.

So, if strong-on-immigration is going to decide the general, that's good for the Republicans.


It's the Ted Kennedy's of the world who should have something to fear - the libs who want to create a permanent voting underclass of poor citizens, dependent on the goodwill of the government forever.


As far as globalization/outsourcing goes, I'm kind of surprised that liberals, who are supposedly "global citizens" on a lot of issues like foreign policy and environmentalism are so against globalization in an economic sense. Yes, a lot of jobs get outsouced - but a lot of DIFFERENT jobs get insourced.

I recommend The World is Flat, by Thomas L. Friedman (a NYT lib) if you're interested in hearing more about this issue. I think it's a big misconception that unfortunately a lot of you libs oppose, yet don't understand.

Posted by: Mike | July 23, 2007 5:08 PM | Report abuse

Mindless yawho posting his usual drivel at July 23, 2007 04:40 (KOZ): The American public is no more for this war nor for this President nor for your isane right wing ideas than tey ahve been in the past several months. You are still on the roller coaster ride over the brink and you are that criminal fool you call "great leader" are still criminally insane. The best analysis to date was written by Carl Hiaasen, "Stuck In Iraq, with no good options left":
http://www.miamiherald.com/424/story/177167.html

Read it and, for gods sake, sober up! We need all the help we can get to be rid of that nutjob you foisted off on the rest of us. Now, it appears, due in large part to YOUR bad choices, we will get Hillary vs. Romney. Talk about jumping from the frying pan into the fire....

Posted by: MikeB | July 23, 2007 5:02 PM | Report abuse

Respect MP George Galloway was thrown out of the Commons chamber after repeatedly clashing with Speaker Michael Martin. Mr Galloway was "named" and ordered out after a series of warnings about his angry denunciation of the Commons watchdog over a motion to suspend him from the House for 18 days over his financial links to Saddam Hussein's regime.

Posted by: can we do this with our Libs | July 23, 2007 4:59 PM | Report abuse


If Giuliani has crossover appeal, that depresses me. To me he seems scarier than Bush. I hope that my independent-slash-Dem compatriots will not find him appealing. Please Dems, just because R's talk incessantly and infuriatingly about family values, that doesn't make someone with few to no family values a good crossover candidate.

Posted by: Golgi | July 23, 2007 4:55 PM | Report abuse

You're watching an utterly irrelevant, shallow television celebrity dominate everybody who claimed they want to lead the most powerful nation in the world," he said.


I happened to watch chris mathews last weekend (perhaps one of the few) and I dare say it was the most liberal love fest I have seen in quite a while. It made this blog look totalitarian. couldn't he find a single conservative to level the field? Or are they all refusing to go on his show to save themselves from humiliation? Isn't it great when all the loony Libs get along so nicely. too bad the real world comes along and ruins it for them.

On that note, i do beleive that eleanor clift has completely lost her mind. she no longer even makes sense. her answers are so predictable as to be comical. she is very good at screaming "excuse me, I'm talking". reminds me of dustin hoffman in midnight cowboy (I'm walkin here).

Posted by: we tried, we failed, as usual | July 23, 2007 4:54 PM | Report abuse

proud - I too am hoping for the McCain comeback. Labor Day is when the campaigns traditionally became interesting. We will see.

Posted by: Mark in Austin | July 23, 2007 4:52 PM | Report abuse

"Giuliani's rivals will likely work to fill out that image with facts (pro choice, pro gay rights) that will make the full Giuliani picture much less attractive to Republican primary voters."

That's a bad strategy for attacking Rudy, and it could even backfire. A lot of independent voters, and even some Republicans, don't mind a candidate who's pro-choice and pro-gay. These ads might hurt Rudy among the far right, but they might also help him among moderates, particularly in the general election.

There are many more legitimate ways to attack Rudy, because he's such a flawed candidate Focus on how unpopular he was among the people he worked with. Focus on his trumped-up accomplishments, chaotic personal life, lack of real experience, terrible personality, and all of his other problems. List the reasons why nobody should vote for Giuliani, not just the reasons why fundamentalists shouldn't vote for him.

There is a possibility that the Republicans intentionally aren't attacking each other on substantial grounds. This way, Rudy still looks attractive to independent and Democratic voters, giving him an advantage in the general if he wins the primary. I don't think it's likely, but I wouldn't rule it out.

Posted by: Blarg | July 23, 2007 4:48 PM | Report abuse

Mark - The general election will, no doubt, be decided by purples, not blues or reds. For the primary it comes down to cross-over appeal vs baggage.

Guiliani has more baggage than Fred, but I think more crossover appeal. Fred is more appealing to the base, is percieved as the not-McCain of '08, but if he waits too long it could backfire, imo.

Don't count out a dark-horse come back by John McCain. Being the underdog is good sometimes...but maybe not in politics.

Posted by: proudtobeGOP | July 23, 2007 4:46 PM | Report abuse

Gingrich mocked Republican presidential candidates for subjecting themselves to a May debate hosted by Chris Matthews of MSNBC's "Hardball."


"You're watching an utterly irrelevant, shallow television celebrity dominate everybody who claimed they want to lead the most powerful nation in the world," he said.

Gingrich ridiculed "the idea of 10 or 11 people standing passively at microphones," and said he refused to "shrink to the level of 40-second answers, standing like a trained seal, waiting for someone to throw me a fish."

He added: "These are not debates, these are auditions. By definition, the psychology of an audition reduces the person auditioning and raises the status, for example, of Chris Matthews."

for tonight, Keith can only go up in status, there is no down from where he stands (creeps, crawls, slithers???)

Posted by: go newt | July 23, 2007 4:43 PM | Report abuse

Whatever happened to that firefighter video "prebuttal" post?
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/thefix/2007/07/rudys_prebuttal_strategy.html

Did we ever talk about whether the "prebuttal" worked?

Here is some followup from the news (below). Anyone else have comments on the firefighter video?

Giuliani "Firefighter" Is Biz Partner
Sunday, July 15, 2007 - FreeMarketNews.com

In reports on the release of an online video critical of former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani's [R] 9-11 record, The New York Times, the Associated Press, and the New York Daily News reported former New York City firefighter Richard Sheirer's criticism of the video without noting that Sheirer is a senior vice president at Giuliani Partners LLC, a consulting firm established by Giuliani, who is still listed as the firm's chairman and chief executive officer.

Posted by: Golgi | July 23, 2007 4:42 PM | Report abuse

American support for the war in Iraq has risen somewhat as the White House has continued to ask the public to reserve judgment about the war until General David Petraeus files his report in the fall.

Dems time is up. can we have the adults back again?

Posted by: We tried, we failed, We're Libs, situation normal | July 23, 2007 4:40 PM | Report abuse

McCain never should have been in the top tier anyway.

He is intellectually and morally lazy.

McCain lacks the spine to stand up to the crazies in his own party and will never be able to handle the pressure of the Oval Office.

McCain's temper is one of those that flashes on people below him while never manifesting itself with powerful people who need a comeuppance.

If he were ever inaugurated as President, McCain's main function would be to serve as the ditherer-in-chief.

Posted by: robert chapman | July 23, 2007 4:33 PM | Report abuse

"It will be interesting to see if any Republicans gain much traction with the Independants, or if they mostly go for the Dems."

And that, my friends, is the entire American Presidential election in a nutshell. The rest is commentary. Everybody needs my vote, and bsimon's, and JimD's, and JD's, and Truth's, but they all are currently selling to Mike, and proud, or to Cassandra and Loudoun, whose ultimate votes are known.


Posted by: Mark in Austin | July 23, 2007 4:27 PM | Report abuse

"I think RG is counting on consolidating the Rs who are not social or religious conservatives."

It will be interesting to see if any Republicans gain much traction with the Independants, or if they mostly go for the Dems.

Posted by: bsimon | July 23, 2007 4:16 PM | Report abuse

Mike and all of you other Repubs - If you think Guliani or Romney has any chance of winning given their support for continued outsourcing and globalizaion, yo are smoking something A LOT stringer than tobacco! The most recent polls suggest that voters are beyond angry about this. They want stict limits placed on illegal and legal immigrants and they want the H1-B and similar visas flat out ended. The dirty little secret that no one seems willing to talk about is that this is THE reason behind Congress's pathetic 14% approval rating. Western opinion in general is tracking this:
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2a735dd0-3873-11dc-bca9-0000779fd2ac.html

Posted by: MikeB | July 23, 2007 4:13 PM | Report abuse

proud should have some insight on this one.

Posted by: Mark in Austin | July 23, 2007 4:13 PM | Report abuse

bsimon, I think RG is counting on consolidating the Rs who are not social or eligious conservatives. That means he only must establish himself for the fiscal conservatives and pro-military Rs to play against a field of creationists. I think that running against not-McCain is easy.

The mud will be a problem.

Posted by: Mark in Austin | July 23, 2007 4:11 PM | Report abuse

Chris: Enough with the Hizzoner stuff, already.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 23, 2007 4:03 PM | Report abuse

Chris writes
"The battle to define Giuliani's identity will be the preeminent struggle on the Republican side in the next few months."

Indeed. Giuliani will have to try to establish conservative bona fides, while his opponents will likely begin slinging the mud about his personal relationships.

Posted by: bsimon | July 23, 2007 4:02 PM | Report abuse

Petroleum Council Unveils 'Hard Truths' on Oil

Leaders from the National Petroleum Council (NPC) unveil the findings of a major new, 422-page report requested by Energy Secretary Samuel Bodman. The 18-month study of global energy to 2030 involved more than 350 experts from diverse backgrounds and organizations--the majority of them from outside the oil and gas industry. The report identifies five core strategies for meeting future energy challenges.

http://www.energypolicytv.com/climatechange.html#362

Posted by: Anonymous | July 23, 2007 4:00 PM | Report abuse

If Mitt Romney continues to focus on bringing down Rudy Giuliani, he's going to shoot himself in the foot. Once Thompson gets in, Rudy will become much less of a threat.

Mitt should spend more time convincing conservatives that he is actually conservative, rather than pointing out what we all know - the Giuliani is not (relatively speaking).

Either way, Giuliani doesn't get the nomination. If I were Fred Thompson, I wouldn't get in right now - not when these two are spending money in futility.

Posted by: Mike | July 23, 2007 3:55 PM | Report abuse

Soldier Care Commission To Issue Recommendations

A federal bipartisan commission formed in the wake of the soldier care scandal will meet this week for the final time and issue its recommendations for improvement.

http://onthehillblog.blogspot.com/2007/07/soldier-care-commission-to-issue.html

Posted by: Anonymous | July 23, 2007 3:55 PM | Report abuse

The comments to this entry are closed.

 
 
RSS Feed
Subscribe to The Post

© 2010 The Washington Post Company