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Gramm Steps Aside

Add former Texas Sen. Phil Gramm's name to an ignominious list -- Samantha Power, Billy Shaheen, Geraldine Ferraro to name just a few -- of campaign surrogates forced to step aside after making an impolitic comment.

John McCain's campaign just released the following statement from Gramm:

"It is clear to me that Democrats want to attack me rather than debate Senator McCain on important economic issues facing the country. That kind of distraction hurts not only Senator McCain's ability to present concrete programs to deal with the country's problems, it hurts the country. To end this distraction and get on with the real debate, I hereby step down as Co-Chair of the McCain Campaign and join the growing number of rank-and-file McCain supporters."

Gramm's resignation as co-chair comes nine days after Gramm told the Washington Times that the country was in a "mental recession" and went on to describe the United States as a "nation of whiners."

Democrats immediately seized on the comments as evidence that McCain and his campaign were out of touch with the average voter and weren't likely to let the issue go any time soon.

A few quick thoughts:

* Gramm's resignation is the inevitable byproduct of the modern political game best described by John Harris and Mark Halperin in "The Way to Win" as the "freak show." Once Gramm's comments made the cable television rounds for a few days, it was something close to inevitable that he would resign.

* It's a near-certainty that Democrats won't give up on the issue. The reality is that Gramm was one of McCain's closest confidantes when it came to the economy and simply because the former Texas Senator is no longer affiliated with the campaign does not mean Democrats won't remind voters of his comments in the fall.

* The position of Treasury Secretary in a McCain Administration is now WIDE open.

By Chris Cillizza  |  July 18, 2008; 8:07 PM ET
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Posted by: Testing | August 18, 2008 1:37 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Bob Greiner | August 18, 2008 1:14 PM | Report abuse

Some time ago, I read a newspaper editorial entitled "A Nation of Crybabies", so this sentiment is not something new nor earth-shattering. After all the "wheezing and whining" about what he said that the wimp-ass segment found so offensive, his most appropriate response should be, "I rest my case".

Posted by: Buckaroo | July 21, 2008 9:30 PM | Report abuse

Mcsame still trying to insult the intellegence of the American People. Gramm
may not be up front and center, but he is still advising Mccain. because still reciting his economic policies. Don't be fooled people.Don't let this old dementia
man sell you his line.

Posted by: tygirl | July 21, 2008 4:42 PM | Report abuse

So, Chris, when do ya think Scheunemann should resign? After all, he's right in the middle of the "Access for Dollars" scandal. McFossil's campaign is filled with sleazy characters.

Posted by: DickNH | July 21, 2008 10:08 AM | Report abuse

If the GOP wants to know why it is now careening towards irrelevancy, it need look no farther than Phil Gramm. He is the emblematic icon of the Plutocratic wing of the party, and the moderate, evangelical and libertarian wings should cut them loose.

Posted by: Skip Mendler | July 21, 2008 10:07 AM | Report abuse

Graham may be leaving the campaign like Charlie Black did. Maybe publically he's leaving but he's definately leaving Mccain's tax policies behind which needs to exit with Graham. Graham did a wonderful thing for the American people let the public know the psychological thinking of Mccain and his camp. Thanks Graham I always knew Mccain was a creep.

Posted by: Linda | July 19, 2008 9:50 PM | Report abuse

Mccain wouldn't have time to tell jokes if the media would take the microscope off of Obama and reported to the public that Mccains economic advisor Phil Graham who called Americans, "A nation of Whinners" also worked on Mccain tax policies while the Chairman of USB Bank. The controversial USB Bank that helped wealthy Americans evade billions of dollars in taxes leaving the hardworking middle class shouldering the burden. We'll that explains why Mccain's tax policies designed by Graham give the wealthiest Americans tax credits. As much as I heard the comments the Nation of Whinners I never knew that Phil Graham was the Chairman of the USB Bank. Now this is a perfect example of how much the media focuses on Obama and hangs on to his every word while the Mccain camps get away with conspiracies like this. Phil Graham = Tax loop holes for the Wealthiest Americans and John Mccain signed on to the program but talks about how he understand how Americans are suffering due to the our failing economy. What more does it take for anybody to see what a fraud Mccain really is?

Posted by: Jerry | July 19, 2008 9:45 PM | Report abuse

Gramm may be leaving the campaign, BUT his ideas and ideology is surely the stuff upon which the McC candidacy is built. The Republicans are stuck with the same old ideology that hasn't worked since the Reagan administration.

* It's a near-certainty that Democrats won't give up on the issue. The reality is that Gramm was one of McCain's closest confidantes when it came to the economy and simply because the former Texas Senator is no longer affiliated with the campaign does not mean Democrats won't remind voters of his comments in the fall.

Posted by: Lynne | July 19, 2008 8:56 PM | Report abuse

I think the picture of Gramm and McCain is a picture of the GOP!
Old and out of ideas!!
Where are the republicans with fresh ideas!!!
Fresh IDEAS not more fear, cronyism and corruption!!!!!!

Posted by: jac | July 19, 2008 8:47 PM | Report abuse

for all who say obama is moving to the center

read this:

Posted by: Sean K. F. | July 19, 2008 4:54 PM | Report abuse

Is that a bus I hear? I thought I saw somebody throw Phill Gramm under it.

Posted by: Electric Bill | July 19, 2008 3:33 PM | Report abuse

If McCain is looking for a new Treasury Secretary to be, perhaps he could use another long-time ally from Texas.

I hear Tom Delay is available.

Posted by: steve boyington | July 19, 2008 2:37 PM | Report abuse

Gee, I thought Dr. Phil Gramm was so smart that UBS was paying him the big money to provide real good advice on the subprime fiasco. But uh-oh, UBS has lost $37 billion so far from the credit mess - and counting. UBS also had to go hat in hand to some foreign government funds for bailout money. Whoops. If Dr. Phil's deregulation ideas are so terrific, how come they failed so spectacularly for his employer?

Posted by: mongolovesheriff | July 19, 2008 12:32 PM | Report abuse

It's about time McCain paid a political price for one of his many screw ups this election year. The media has been giving him a pass for months. What did this day of coverage? If an Obama spokesperson had said we've become a nation of whiners, the media would have been all over it 24/7...just like "bittergate" and "Wesley Clarkgate". But as we know...the MSM just loves lovin' McCain:

Posted by: DW | July 19, 2008 11:58 AM | Report abuse

The Have it all are suprised that normal US citizens are complaining about the state of economy!!!!!!!

No wonder these Neocons are out of touch with the US citizens real life (i.e paying mortages, high petrol prices, a weak dollar etc.) and for them wasting $50 billion a month on a war like Iraq is nothing in support of so called security of foreign country called ISRAEL!!!!!!

Posted by: Nouri | July 19, 2008 11:14 AM | Report abuse

I see no reason for Gramm to step down. He is a Rich man, a senator, a porn producer. He supports big oil and calls working americans WHINERS. Why would McCain let him step down, Dick Chainey did this for seven years and nothing was done. McSame should make him his vice President choice.
Posted by: rkz1964 | July 19, 2008 8:57 AM

Perhaps that's the game all along, and he's stepping down to make his VP candidacy more of a surprise? You know, unlike when Bush chose Cheney to find him a VP.

Posted by: Aleks | July 19, 2008 10:55 AM | Report abuse

Country first? Not so fast, McCain. That's not what you've always said:

Posted by: Another example of McCain hypocrisy | July 19, 2008 9:25 AM | Report abuse

I see no reason for Gramm to step down. He is a Rich man, a senator, a porn producer. He supports big oil and calls working americans WHINERS. Why would McCain let him step down, Dick Chainey did this for seven years and nothing was done. McSame should make him his vice President choice.

Posted by: rkz1964 | July 19, 2008 8:57 AM | Report abuse

I am very upset about Gramm stepping down. I was glad that he had convinced me that I was the problem and the economy is just fine. I needed to stop whining. After listening to him, I knew I really wasn't eating catfood, or using yesterday's Post as a T-shirt, or living in a grocery store box in the alley. Gramm, you'll be missed. In the meantime, can I live in one of your five houses? See you at the golf course clubhouse.

Posted by: Guy Living in Box | July 19, 2008 7:55 AM | Report abuse

Top McCain counselor Phil Gramm diagnosed a malaise in a nation of whiners. But his real mistake was to insist on sharing this diagnosis with the public instead of restricting it to the like-minded in the McCain camp.

Posted by: FirstMouse | July 19, 2008 7:52 AM | Report abuse

So there are unconfirmed reports that Mullah Messiah Barack Hussein Obama is going to name Barack Hussein Obama for his
Vice President and so on that note thank
God that John McCain never name that loser
Phil Gramm as his Vice President,however
Amnesty John McCain better wake up and fully realize that his endless open phony
pandering to every two bit phony so-called
Hispanic Organization,combined with McCain
supporting Illegal Alien Amnesty is the
reason McCain is not ahead of Obama by double digits by now,even though Messiah
Barack Hussien Obama seems have out pandered McCain among them. God what Losers.

Posted by: Claudine 1000 | July 19, 2008 7:20 AM | Report abuse

Re: Graham

Senator McCain needs someone who has a face value--not name value.

Posted by: premier | July 19, 2008 6:57 AM | Report abuse

What's this about Phil Gramm being in a porno tape? Who the hell would want to see him getting it on?

Posted by: Elmer Butts | July 19, 2008 3:50 AM | Report abuse

Phil Gramm, a caricature in his own right, may well be narcissistic. He rises above, in his own mind, everyone whose Net Worth does not exceed his own. The economy has not yet been brought completely to its knees. His personal fortune will keep him in clover until the Grim Reaper visits him. Anybody upset by gas prices, mortgage foreclosures, and bank failures should suck it up and stop whining. So says Phil Gramm, author of bank deregulation.

Posted by: BlueTwo1 | July 19, 2008 3:14 AM | Report abuse

I am never going to vote for McCain but I see no reason to vote for Obama (it might help if he stops pandering for votes). I also do not like the mean-spirited Gramm ...

... however, this is a pretty good example of what is wrong with our electoral process. There is so much hubris about the wisdom/independence/wit and other stupid myths about the average citizen that the possibility actually exists that many Americans believe them (a confirmation of just how dumb the average citizen is - pretty scary when one considers that 50% of Americans are below this average ... comment courtesy of Carlin). Of even greater concern is the fact that any comment that is considered a putdown of this average American is deemed sufficient to warrant political exile for the intrepid loudmouth (who really should know better than to genuflect on harsh realities in the current political environment).

Official working for both candidates seem to take turns making these absolutely offensive (even if unfortunately true) comments about 'whiners', 'monsters','guns & religion' et al which the opponent/media immediately turn into some sort of non-stop political scandal until the official is properly chastised & sent packing.

I cannot believe that I am defending Gramm but this is plain silly. Politicians can no longer tell the public what they need to hear. American voters/party officials need to get a life and a sense of humor ...

Posted by: Hermes55 | July 19, 2008 2:56 AM | Report abuse

So you bet former US Sen. Phil Gramm the
biggest GOP political hack,after President
George W Bush and Vice President Draft
Dodger Cheney should also have never been
a Big Shot in Sen John McCain 2008 GOP
Presidential Campaign let alone McCain's
Sec of Treasury and it is high time for
both John McCain and his crooked empty suit
Democrat Oppenent AWOL US Sen Barack Obama
to clean house in their own camps or get
the Hell out. McCain & Obama are the most
damn pathetic poorest excuses for Presidential Candidates after Bush and Cheney in history! Dump McCain and Obama!

Posted by: Sherry Kay | July 19, 2008 2:00 AM | Report abuse

"It is clear to me that Democrats want to attack me rather than debate Senator McCain on important economic issues facing the country."

Just because it's sanctimonious doesn't mean it isn't whining.

Posted by: Goombay | July 19, 2008 1:52 AM | Report abuse

Gramm was a creep from Day 1. The nastiest pug ugly around the Senate.

Posted by: Russell | July 19, 2008 1:43 AM | Report abuse

A spade is a spade. We ARE over-indulged and slightly overweight whiners. We expect to be protected from all ill and coddled for all whims. Our bathrooms are as big as my grandparents' bedroom and air-conditioned, too. The slightest hangnail sets us to cryin' and running to the doctor. We expect to sit back and have life handed to us on a silver platter. We might be better warned about our over-indulgence in bread and circuses. . .
Posted by: Oh for heaven's sake | July 18, 2008 11:25 PM

You and your associates sound like real babies.

Phil Gramm should have claimed he misspoke and that he thinks America is a Nation of Winners.

Posted by: Aleks | July 19, 2008 1:26 AM | Report abuse

Phil Gram called Americans whiners. How about we take away Phil Grams tax payer paid Senate Pension a then lets see who whines. Phil Gram is a punk.

Posted by: Phil Gramm A-Hole | July 19, 2008 1:18 AM | Report abuse

As a lifelong Republican and a fiscal hawk - the Dems shouldn't be attacking Gramm for his asinine comment, but rather, should be attacking him for having spearheaded the deregulation which have led to Enron and the current sub-prime fiasco.

The fact that Gramm was McCain's "economic guru" proves that McCain really doesn't know much about economic policy afterall.

Posted by: JYY | July 19, 2008 1:15 AM | Report abuse

Phil Gramm:
"It is clear to me that Democrats want to attack me rather than debate Senator McCain on important economic issues facing the country."

There are no economic issues according to you, Mr. Antoinette. Let them eat cake. Remember? Since Marie never really said it, and you implied it, you can be its new bearer for the ages.

Thanks for cluing us in further to McCain's "vision" for the middle class and poor.

Posted by: SteveCO | July 19, 2008 1:13 AM | Report abuse

Jeeze Chris. Gramm is still McCain's economic adviser, he's just no longer a campaign surrogate. He'll still be telling McCain that it's a mental recession, he just won't be telling it to voters anymore.

Posted by: Aleks | July 19, 2008 1:10 AM | Report abuse

Anyone know how many staffers and surrogates have left the McCain campaign since it began? I know there were two or three state chairs that were busted by the cops for drugs and or sex; then you have the lobbyists being dumped overboard; and now Gramm. Is there a complete list somewhere?

Posted by: DanOregon | July 19, 2008 1:09 AM | Report abuse

The man is right. We ARE a nation of whiners, malcontents, and layabouts. We overuse credit and expect to be bailed out. We get laid off and want someone to support us. We lose jobs and expect someone else to bring them back and, worse, buy the products that move the jobs overseas. We live near water and expect everyone else to pay the flood insurance.

And for living proof of whiners, just look at, and all the democrats who, for all their kvetching about the intellect of Bush and his crew, they're still kicking your butt. Good move on the Attorney General, Dems!

And if my opinion isn't good enough for you, check out Lee Iaccoca's book.

Posted by: tmkelley | July 19, 2008 1:07 AM | Report abuse

I am not a McCain supporter and will not vote for him under any circumstance.

Having said that, I have to admit the "whinner" comment has a degree of truth. Most Americans worship at the altar of "free enterprise" and yet complain that the Federal Government did not do enough when gasoline price hits $3 and now over $4 a gallon. Do we see any irony in that? Is that whinning?

While I agree that McCain will not do anything for the average guy and that he was probably telling the truth (in a long while) when he said he knows nothing about economy I do think attacking Gramm is old politics. The candidate cannot really control what his surrogates say all the time. As much as I believe Gramm is out of contact with the average guy, leave him alone but focus on McCain's ignorance on economy. That will be the "real debate" that Gramm asked for.

Posted by: Steve Chan | July 19, 2008 12:47 AM | Report abuse

This is wonderful and so sweet. Racist Phil Gramm quits joining the ranks of all the other ultra right wingers who briefly thought McCain could win. They weren't really out to help McCain only to help themselves. Well, now he can go home and join the others in sulking. Despite their resignations, McCain is going to suffer an even larger loss than Herbert Hoover in 1932 and Barry Goldwater in 1968. Let them all crawl off into their corners and die. America will be a better place when they are gone.

Posted by: David S. Robins | July 19, 2008 12:44 AM | Report abuse

McCain and Grahm are very close..why they even divorced their first wives the same way...They both delivered the divorce papers to their wives who were in the hospital recovering. "Hi honey, hope you are feeling better. Here are some divorce papers for you. Well...I have to run. Buh bye!"

Posted by: Repub | July 19, 2008 12:42 AM | Report abuse

Diane72 -

Dude, you really have it bad for Mrs Obama huh? What...were you a 90 pound weakling in college and she never paid any attention to you or did she laugh in your face?? Its time to get over the crush and find your own woman.

Posted by: Repub | July 19, 2008 12:34 AM | Report abuse

By the way, I want to thank the Post for allowing readers to comment on all of the online articles... not merely the less controversial subjects. It's appreciated when we have the opportunity to comment on and discuss more sensitive issues like national security, religion & government, and whether we should maintain some type of damage control until we can complete a change in administration.

Posted by: TerrifiedCitizen | July 19, 2008 12:33 AM | Report abuse

I love it. A bunch of fat, little, draft-dodging, rich p&ssies are calling working Americans "whiners." Come on by my house Phil, I'll send you the address, and call me a whiner to my face. When you are finished spitting out your teeth, you can contemplate the difference between a whiner and someone who is not going to put up with you people anymore.

Posted by: woody2471 | July 19, 2008 12:31 AM | Report abuse

Phil Gramm was advising Sen. McCain on the economy? Well I guess Jeff Skillng is in Jail and Ken Lay is still dead.

Posted by: jjsaluki | July 19, 2008 12:29 AM | Report abuse

With aides leaving on both sides soon we'll only be left with the ...


Imagine that.

Posted by: tslats | July 19, 2008 12:05 AM | Report abuse

Isn't Phil Gramm a VP (lobbyist) for USB Bank, the same bank that has just admitted hiding accounts of wealthy Americans in a subsidary bank in Lichtenstein? When his position is reported, maybe that would be a major embarassment for McCain.

Posted by: William Pollock | July 19, 2008 12:00 AM | Report abuse

Isn't Phil Gramm a VP (lobbyist) for USB Bank, the same bank that has just admitted hiding accounts of wealthy Americans in a subsidary bank in Lichtenstein? When his position is reported, maybe that would be a major embarassment for McCain.

Posted by: Santa Fe | July 18, 2008 11:59 PM | Report abuse

Come on, Phil. With today's exchange rates and the cost of driving to work, guys like me can't afford a European vacation, much less 2005 vintage Lafite Rothschild! There's nothing "mental" about that. Do you know any economists who think 1% growth is good? US real GDP growth for 2007 was a mediocre 2.2% vs. 2.9% for the UK. US growth has been slow since the second half of 2006. What are we supposed to do? Bring back trickle-down Reaganomics??? Come on. Give us "claret" drinkers a break!

Posted by: FrankM | July 18, 2008 11:54 PM | Report abuse


Did Gramm leave the McCain campaign as you report or merely switch from one position to another.

I understand that he resigned as one of the campaign co-chairs but that he will continue as an economic advisor.

Do you know if this is true ?



Posted by: Nelson | July 18, 2008 11:38 PM | Report abuse

It's good to see Gramm slither back into a private swamp. Phil Gramm is a mean spirited, greedy, obnoxious idiot. He was an odious, ridiculous senator...then after making a ton of money as a vice chairman(a reward job for his political hack job) he made a, thankfully, short stint in the good he self immolated...good riddance.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 18, 2008 11:37 PM | Report abuse

Of course, Gramm wrote McCains economic policy so unless he renounces the policy McCain is still tied to Gramm. Gramm gave us the Enron loophole which allows for unregulated energy speculation... hence the high price of oil. Gramm also gave us more deregulation... anyone thinking that bank deregulation is a great idea these days? Thank good old Gramm. McCain will still be tied to Gramm through his policy, unless McCain flip-flops on that like so many other things. Anyone notice how McCain and Bush are copying Obama's foreign policy while condemning Obama on foreign policy. It is so pathetic. You would think that the Washington Post would comment on that someday.

Posted by: Goldie | July 18, 2008 11:35 PM | Report abuse

Phil Gramm and his lobbyist wife (who never met a dollar she didn't like) made a huge fortune at the expense of the American taxpayer, all while selling their "Market solutions", deregulating the home mortgage business, and selling out to the highest bidding lobbyist, the American people be dammed! I'd like to see this corrupt slimeball investigated, even if he did leave office several years ago and covered his tracks well!!!

Posted by: Mike in Dallas | July 18, 2008 11:30 PM | Report abuse

They're is a contraction of "they are"
There is an adverb answering "where"?
Their is a possessive pronoun, as in "their whining gets on my nerves".

Posted by: Note to Dan | July 18, 2008 11:30 PM | Report abuse

It isn't enough that Gramm resigned. How much of this pig's principles still guide McCain's economic policy....I want to know. The Obama campaign and press (the uncorrupted ones) should ask mcCain at every opportunity they get.

Posted by: playa | July 18, 2008 11:26 PM | Report abuse

A spade is a spade. We ARE over-indulged and slightly overweight whiners. We expect to be protected from all ill and coddled for all whims. Our bathrooms are as big as my grandparents' bedroom and air-conditioned, too. The slightest hangnail sets us to cryin' and running to the doctor. We expect to sit back and have life handed to us on a silver platter. We might be better warned about our over-indulgence in bread and circuses. . .

Posted by: Oh for heaven's sake | July 18, 2008 11:25 PM | Report abuse


No one seems to remember that the same day Gramm made his whiner comments, the Post had a story on line about how baby-boomers were a bunch of, well, whiners. This was much ado about nothing for an aid to have to quit.

Posted by: joneu316 | July 18, 2008 11:24 PM | Report abuse

Don't dispair. Am certain someone of equal gift and stature will arrive to fill Phills shoes.

It just happens to be whom they are and what they believe.

So you go girl.

Posted by: jatox | July 18, 2008 11:24 PM | Report abuse

Gramm should be held to account for the legislation that he brought forward in a Republican-controlled congress that produced the Enron fiasco and is now producing oil price speculation.

Gramm's idea that "the market always takes care of itself" is good for Gramm's BIG BUSINESS friends - from whom he receives a GREAT DEAL OF MONEY THESE DAYS AS A CONSULTANT ) but is also not good for the regular consumer and the "regular guy" (of whom Gramm is NOT A PART OF AND HAS NO ASSOCIATION WITH - EITHER SOCIALLY OR MORALLY at least since assuming his Senate Seat) and actually the "regular consumer" would benefit more if Gramm were out of the picture altogether.

It is like Gramm is trying to get rich by advising a presidential canadidate and then taking advantage of that association.

You also have to wonder whether the former Senator Gramm changed parties just to make a buck!

Personally, I think Gramm figured out how to make a buck for himself and sold himself out.

Posted by: IBM (Yes they are my REAL initials) | July 18, 2008 11:21 PM | Report abuse

We are nation of lambs for allowing these right win ignorants steal our wealth and in top of that have the guts to insult us.

Posted by: lagoon | July 18, 2008 11:18 PM | Report abuse

Mr 'Magoo' Phil Graham is the architect of the 'free regulation' folly that was the genesis of many corrupted corporations that ruined many lives. He should be in jail alone with the Enron crooks

Posted by: Gus | July 18, 2008 11:08 PM | Report abuse

For the record, and to make sure people know the FACTS, Phil Gramm is NOT from San Antonio or anywhere near it. He is a native of Georgia who taught at Texas A&M University in College Station (central, not South Texas) .. and he is a former Democrat who switched parties in mid-stream.
Loeffler, for the record, is from Kerrville, Texas, 75 miles northwest of San Antonio.If you lived there, you'd know that people in the Texas Hill Country consider themselves different and distinctive from San Antonians.
As for Gramm, dude, don't let the door hit ya where the Lord split ya.
Or as Gov. Rick Perry once said, "Adios mofo."

Posted by: Chuck Bloom | July 18, 2008 11:07 PM | Report abuse

Phil Gramm is a little bit funny. Apparently he has stated that the "distraction" is the Dems' targeting of him. What a Republican a$$clown he is. Phil Gramm has benefited at least a million dollars in state and federal benefits, throughout his lifetime. And it's those "whiners" who are footing the bill for that Texas dumba$$. AMF Gramm--go make your ugly comments elsewhere. How about FOX News?

Posted by: Dr. Don Key | July 18, 2008 11:04 PM | Report abuse

So why is Charlie Black still remaining in the McCain camp? Charlie Black poses a terrorist threat to the country because he thinks of another 9/11 only as a huge advantage to McCain. Charlie Black sounds like a person who may even plot another 9/11 to help win McCain win in November.

Keeping Charlie Black in his camp means McCain is also a terrorist threat to our country. America has seen enough of the Republicans putting their politics above the country's national security and internally causing a genuine national security threat. Republicans demanded patriotism from others but they have never been patriotic themselves.

Posted by: American Spirit | July 18, 2008 10:56 PM | Report abuse

McCain's South-Central Texas Scorecard:
San Antonio's John Hagee...OUT
San Antonio's Tom Loeffler...OUT
San Antonio's Phil Gramm...OUT

Posted by: Loomis | July 18, 2008 10:49 PM | Report abuse

A few years ago, you saw "United we Stand" posters everywhere. Those have sure gone out of style. Read some of these posts. Many of these people are not just whiners, but nearly rabid in their hatred for a President they want to pretend was not really elected.

Posted by: Sternberg | July 18, 2008 10:46 PM | Report abuse

Most would describe me as extreme left, but I agree that we've become a "nation of whiners." How else could you characterize all the people who "took offense" at the Obama New Yorker cover, calling for resignations, levelling accusations of racism, etc, over a harmless and quite humorous cartoon? Whiners.

Posted by: Cory | July 18, 2008 10:40 PM | Report abuse

Phil Gramm is a typical Republican politician who's out of touch with people who actually work for a living. Not only did Gramm make fugly statements by referring to a "nation of whiners," he then lied about it and said he was referring to politicians. BS! At least he could have come correct about it.

Posted by: Dr Don Key | July 18, 2008 10:37 PM | Report abuse

Sam Power's is a MONSTER, rrrrgggghhh!!!! I'd bring her back after the election... Special Envoy, maybe even United Nations. Kicks butt.

Posted by: angriestdogintheworld | July 18, 2008 10:36 PM | Report abuse

Given that Gramm hung on for nine days after the "nation of whiners" comment - and weeks (months?) after his connection to the Enron loophole and UBS came out - I think it's more likely it was his investment in soft core porn that did it. As hard as McCain is working to try to hold on to the religious right, I think this was more likely the kiss of death, so to speak. The religious faction of the Republican Party has been lukewarm, at best, toward McCain, and this sort of thing would just give them one final reason to not participate.

Posted by: blondie3 | July 18, 2008 10:35 PM | Report abuse

VG whined:

"This is wrong. I am an Obama supporter and I feel that this is complete nonsense. It is true, we have become a nation of whiners."

Yeah, I'll just bet you're an Obama supporter. I love how the wingnuts try to pass as "Democrats" or "Obama supporters" even as their comments are 100% wingnutty.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 18, 2008 10:26 PM | Report abuse

Phil Gramm's, "Let them eat whine," perfectly epitomizes the GOP ideology.

Now about that new guillotine being erected in D.C....

Posted by: Marie A. | July 18, 2008 10:25 PM | Report abuse

Another Republican down,there dropping like flies.

Posted by: Dan | July 18, 2008 10:20 PM | Report abuse


Phil Gramm had to leave the McCain althought it probably won't mean that much to the DNC and the Obama campaign. More stuff about Gramm's life and past dealings was coming out day-by-day. Gramm and his firm dealings with dictators and unfriendly governments as well as his calling Americans a "nation of whiners" in a "mental recession" to being involved in soft porn production would have surely cost McCain a lot of political capital among independents, conservative democrats and conservative Republicans.

However the damage has been done to McCain's campaign. It has taken nearly 5 weeks for Gramm to leave the campaign since his initial "bad" economic dealings came out. Had this happened in the Obama campaign, this person would have been gone in a week.

Posted by: Obama-Junkie | July 18, 2008 10:14 PM | Report abuse

Actually, when I hear my coworkers who used to brag about their V8 SUVs start complaining about gas prices, I can't really beef about Gramm. They ARE whiners, who can't stand up and admit they knew nothing about global energy issues and made stupid and short sighted decisions that made them feel "cool".

Whatever. The future is going to teach quite a few Americans a very important lesson about distinguishing between adult contemplation and childish pursuit of satisfaction.

Posted by: Jim | July 18, 2008 10:13 PM | Report abuse

Phil Who????????????????????????

Posted by: Mac | July 18, 2008 10:12 PM | Report abuse

Phil Gramm and his wife, Wendy, should both be in jail. They are emblematic of the rot in our political system.

Wendy was lame duck Chair of the CFTC--which Bush I put her on--when in January 1993 about a week before Clinton's inaugural she called an emergency meeting of the directors and muscled through a rule loosening government oversight of futures trading before she stepped down. The vote was 2-1 (there were only three directors on the board at the time) and the dissenting voter filed a complaint about the action which was ultimately ignored.

When Wendy's hubby Phil was retiring from the Senate (Gramm dug up the felon that blew the Dukasis' campaign out of the water years ago) in December 2000, he added his own muscle, completing the job wifey had started seven years earlier and hobbling the CFTC once and for all regarding transparency and oversight of entities like Enron.

Unfortunately for the gang but fortunate for the public, Enron blew up.

Let's also not forget that John McCain was one of the Keating Five.... seems you really can't teach an old dog new tricks:

Posted by: Long Time Rez | July 18, 2008 10:11 PM | Report abuse

Thank you, Gramm!
Crawl back in your hidey-hole and count your gold bars.
Let us hope Gramm won't get his mitts on the Treasury Department.
We're already loaded with the largest transfer of wealth in the history of nations.
No point in letting him move it out faster, which he would do with impunity, since McCain admits he knows little to nothing about the economy.

Posted by: Judy-in-TX | July 18, 2008 10:03 PM | Report abuse

all you whiners better understand that this election isn't about who supports obama or McCann, it's about who hates who we hate obama or do we hate McCann the most...election day will tell the tale...

Posted by: Dwight | July 18, 2008 9:56 PM | Report abuse

Phil Gramm reminds me of what Charles Barkley said about radio host Michael Savage: "Sometimes a smart person can be a real dumbass."

Posted by: Patrick | July 18, 2008 9:53 PM | Report abuse

Poor Phil Gramm- he's probably at home now, whining about the 'liberal media' and the hatchet job they supposedly did on him. Not to worry, just give Post publisher Don Graham a call- he's always got room on the payroll for out-of-work neocons and little-guy bashers. And Graham also has a lovely blue dress with matching knee pads Phil can wear when he picks up his paychecks.

Posted by: GrammsNextJob | July 18, 2008 9:50 PM | Report abuse

Now Phil can spend more time at UBS plotting to privatize the Texas highway system and turn it into one big toll road.

Hey Phil - quit whining! That's not a real Democrat attack you're experiencing. It's more like a mental attack. You know, like a brain freeze.

Posted by: Amgems | July 18, 2008 9:49 PM | Report abuse

Stop whining about Phil Gramm :)

Posted by: HouseNegro | July 18, 2008 9:47 PM | Report abuse

As a former Texan (23 years) and finally in Washington State, away from those ignorant creeps who still believe that the earth was created in 6000 BC, that a man named Noah actually gathered two of every animal (and plant?) species onto a boat, (including the tetse fly), and that George W. Bush is an actual to practicing Christian, I am so happy to be out of that State of amoral right wing nuts (like Gramm, DeLay, and GW Jr.). Wouldn't you have loved to be the Ark as the crew member whose job it was to scoop up all the animal poop?

Posted by: Lu Franklin | July 18, 2008 9:45 PM | Report abuse

This is wrong. I am an Obama supporter and I feel that this is complete nonsense. It is true, we have become a nation of whiners. Why is it that any statement remotely critical of the US or it's population is deemed wrong? When did we all developed such a thin skin?

Posted by: VG | July 18, 2008 9:41 PM | Report abuse

What a tragic shame, to lose Phil Grammm so about a target rich environment.

In addition to his recent role in helping rich Americans offshore millions (or is up to a billion?) of dollars, and thereby cheat on their taxes, he - Chair of Senate Banking a while back- has his dirty little fingerprints on the subprime mortgage crisis, as well his valiant efforts to protect the ability of banks to launder terrorist money in the years leading up to and directly before 9/11.

thanks, Phil, for your valiant service to the nation... we'll miss you.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 18, 2008 9:38 PM | Report abuse

gramm is and always has been a despicable person. notice, he chose to resign the campaign rather than retract his stupid dismissal of the american people as whiners because of their economic problems from which he is shielded thanks to his multi-million dollar salary. also, his comment and arrogant behavior should not be equated with the normal "gotcha" stuff of tabloid cable. his is important because he was advising mccain's policy. mccain was taking advice, which mccain has not renounced, from the architect of the economic mess we are in today, as noted at

Posted by: rapswork | July 18, 2008 9:36 PM | Report abuse

Gramm's comments were out of line and incorrect in my opinion. If anything, we are a "nation of distracted," as we listen to our Ipods, watch our plasma televisions, and talk on our Iphones as people like him lie and steal from us. Given the present state of affairs, it is amazing that our capitol city has not been overrun with protestors.

Posted by: Charles | July 18, 2008 9:36 PM | Report abuse

McCain and Gramm have been joined at the hip for more than 25 years. McCain even acted as Chairman of Gramm's disastrous and mercifully short-lived campaign for the Presidency in 1996.

Gramm may now be out of sight but he'll still be advising McCain -- bet on it.

For a real insight into the Gramms (and McCain) see David Corn's must-read article "Foreclosure Phil":

Posted by: pali2500 | July 18, 2008 9:35 PM | Report abuse

Does Gramm have any qualifications in business or economics other than investing in porno movies?

Posted by: L | July 18, 2008 9:26 PM | Report abuse

All you have to do is read the comments section of any political article in the Post to prove Gramm was right. We ARE a nation of whiners. Anytime we don't get what we want, we call people names: "neocons" "wingnuts" etc. etc. etc. Pelosi, Lott, - I have no use for any of them. They point fingers while spending our taxes on fancy offices, private jets, and all the while accomplishing nothing.

Posted by: WJS | July 18, 2008 9:21 PM | Report abuse

Why do these guys from Texas think everything is going great when they've been living off of taxpayer dollars for most of their lives? As long as I have publicly funded health care why does anyones else need it? What a bunch of creeps!

Posted by: gr8fun4me | July 18, 2008 9:19 PM | Report abuse

Question is, why didn't Gramm step down earlier? McCain was just propping up a friend.

Posted by: matt | July 18, 2008 9:12 PM | Report abuse

Isn't Phil Gramm being investigated by the FBI and IRS as a co-conspirator in the UBS Banking and Tax Fraud scheme that has been bilking the U.S. taxpayers 100s of billions of dollars for the past 8-10 years?

Maybe that's why he has to leave McCain's campaign. Some say McCain has very weak credentials on economic policy, and I am sure McCain doesn't want to be seen in pictures next to Gramm at the moment. Even though some say McCain was going to select him as treasury secretary?? I don't think that would have been very smart.

I heard that Phil Gramm was the CEO or some senior exectutive at UBS the company that the FBI and IRS are investigating. Wasn't he also the chief architect behind the "Enron Loophole" and what led to the current high gas prices now. Is this true?

Posted by: frank | July 18, 2008 9:08 PM | Report abuse

I had hoped this campaign was going to be about issues but it's turning into the stupid campaign in living memory. The grand strategy seems to be for both campaigns to hunt for opportunities for faux outrage -- last campaign with any staff or surrogates left, wins.

Posted by: Anon99 | July 18, 2008 9:07 PM | Report abuse

Gramm is an out of touch windbag. He didn't step down because of any "freak show." He stepped down because he, the Republicans and John McCain ARE out of touch with the economic concerns of every day Americans.

News shows were doing their jobs in replaying these comments and Dems were right in heaping it on this windbag who could care less about working people.

Posted by: Jim Hacking | July 18, 2008 9:02 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Anonymous | July 18, 2008 8:49 PM | Report abuse

Mccain, the no good piece of dirt gave away information today on the secret plans for Obamas trip to Iraq. This information is never released in advance by the state department for security reasons. Mccain must have gotten the information from inside through the Bush white house and let it out. Mccain is nothing but a no good fu&kin rat. I hope this piece of dirt Mccain dies of cancer and the sooner the better.

Posted by: Mccain hater | July 18, 2008 8:46 PM | Report abuse

Obama could never have gotten away with having Mr Enron, or someone half as crooked, as his econ advisor.

Proof positive that the media is in the tank for McCain.

Posted by: JR, Boston | July 18, 2008 8:26 PM | Report abuse

I have it from a good authority that the next president of the United States has designated Robert E. Rubin as HER choice for Treasury secretary.

In politics, like life, you cannot assume.


Posted by: scrivener | July 18, 2008 8:24 PM | Report abuse

Isn't Susan Rice still part of the Obama team? Don't you mean Samantha Power?

Posted by: Anonymous | July 18, 2008 8:19 PM | Report abuse

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