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Hillary's 'Plantation' Comment -- Not the First Time

The political world is abuzz over Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's (D-N.Y.) comments Monday during a speech commemorating the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr.'s birthday in which she said Republicans are running the U.S. House of Representatives like a "plantation."

The House "has been run like a plantation, and you know what I'm talking about," Clinton said to a majority African American audience at a Harlem church . "It has been run in a way so that nobody with a contrary view has had a chance to present legislation, to make an argument, to be heard."

Republicans immediately condemned the remark.  Rep. Peter King (R-N.Y.) said it is "always wrong to play the race card for political gain by using a loaded word like plantation. It is particularly wrong to do so on Martin Luther King Day."

Although Clinton's remark has drawn national attention, it's not the first time she has invoked the word "plantation" when asked about GOP House majority.  A Democratic strategist not affiliated with Clinton pointed The Fix to a similar comment by HRC during a November 2004 appearance on CNN. "It's just so typical," she said at the time, going on to mix her metaphors: "I mean they're running the House of Representatives like a fiefdom with Tom DeLay as, you know, in charge of the plantation."

One Democratic Senate aide, who requested anonymity because he was not authorized to speak publicly about Clinton, said the 2004 comment on CNN was "proof positive this wasn't a remark to pander to anyone."

By Chris Cillizza  |  January 17, 2006; 12:45 PM ET
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Republicans can dish it out, but they sure cannot take it. For years the republicans have been refering to "liberal plantation". Don't believe me, just Google it.

Thank you

Posted by: Nick | January 18, 2006 10:43 PM | Report abuse

UP queen boy.....

Posted by: if you see me, you'll be looking.... | January 18, 2006 2:49 PM | Report abuse

See you, would not want to be you.

Posted by: Anonymous | January 18, 2006 2:44 PM | Report abuse

Wiretaps are justified and the people have no business knowing what goes on in Washington! If you wanna know, go to Georgetown Law and get your access. Why does the Bush Administration owe the public anything. Bush has the right to do whatever he sees fit with or without the constutution and if you have a problem with that then too bad. The G.O.P. is here to stay and no bribing scandal is going to institute a lobbying reform. The plantation is alive and well and te cotton pickers have never been better. Long live the G.O.P.

See you in November
THE G.O.P. aka K3

Posted by: http://therelaiblesource.blogspot.com/ | January 18, 2006 2:01 PM | Report abuse

The Bush administration has ran this country like a plantation for the past 6 years. What's more disturbing is the democrats silence on all of the misguided legislation and programs that Bush has pushed.
It's almost like they are co-conspirators in this whole mess. We became so disgusted with former president Clinton for having oral sex in the whiite house, you hypocrits. But we allow Bush to wire tap anyone who might be in contact with a so called terrorist in the name of national security.Does anyone how many terrorist were thwarted behind these wiretaps? Sounds like watergate to me. When will you journalist stop kissing up to Bush and make this a national outcry and have this whole mess on every page in your newspapers to put an end to this. What are going to accept next, a government ran like the former Soviet Union, oh I'm sorry the new Soviet Union. You know Putin and Bush are boys.

Posted by: disgruntled citizen | January 18, 2006 1:14 PM | Report abuse

Across the board I'm disgusted by the poor leadership demonstrated by both political parties. I grew up expecting more from these men and women, I grew up expecting to believe they meant what they were saying and I could trust they placed our interests as a group over theirs as individuals. Who in Congress is willing to stand between Dems and Reps and just do the right thing because its the right freaking thing? No one I've seen. Maybe they have to pay for their own meals, flights, and vacations, and maybe they don't get re-elected, and just maybe if that ever happened, we might not all be so cynical about our political process.

Perhaps in the spirit of Jefferson its time for a little revolution. I want them all voted out and we start over. It can't be any worse.

Posted by: another Steve | January 18, 2006 9:07 AM | Report abuse

From the 1992 Republican Party platform, in the passage about low-income housing:

"For low-income families, the Republican Party stands for a revolution in housing by converting public housing into homes owned by low-income Americans. President Bush is eager to work closely with the States to fight and win a new conservative war on poverty.... We ask the electorate: End the strangulation of divided government. Give Republicans the chance to move housing policy off the Democrat Party plantation into the main-stream of American life."

http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/showplatforms.php?platindex=R1992

Posted by: Steve M. | January 18, 2006 7:51 AM | Report abuse

Just a note on the mixed metaphore comment - Plantations were run exactly like a fiefdom. The lord of the manner made the rules, enforced them with violence, and kept all the proceeds. I guess it sounds intellectual to accuse someone of a mixed metaphore, but any thinking person should make the connedtion without hesitation.
This kind of word parsing is what is wrong with the entire political pundit program. How can people ever understand what is going on when they are constantly being misdirected away from the issue at hand.
We need more discussion about substance.
In this case, the House and Senate are both being run by bullies with the violence directed at a members reputation or bank account. It's run like a fiefdom, which in this country was once called a plantation and today is called Congress.
In any event, the people lose.

Posted by: Guy Sturino | January 18, 2006 7:08 AM | Report abuse

Hillary Clinton was wrong to compare the House of Representatives to a "plantation". It would have been far more accurate to say that Tom DeLay and the Republicans have run the House the way Al Capone ran Chicago -- but with far more money involved.

Posted by: Chuck Prentiss | January 18, 2006 2:46 AM | Report abuse

Hillary Clinton was wrong to compare the House of Representatives to a "plantation". It would have been far more accurate to say that Tom DeLay and the Republicans have run the House the way Al Capone ran Chicago -- but with far more money involved.

Posted by: Chuck Prentiss | January 18, 2006 2:46 AM | Report abuse

"Congress is America's last plantation," says former GOP staffer Jonathan Luckstill. "Staffers are still used to run personal errands for members, women staffers are hired on the basis of looks and can be fired on a whim," he says.

Posted by: LittleFish | January 18, 2006 12:59 AM | Report abuse

Hey, it's really not about party politics....and the george jetsons that are talking trash about Hillary, why I recognize the kinda men that just like to be mean to women in private, it thrills them.....that's just the kinda men they are....real ANTICHRISTians......selling one thing and delivering another....send me money, that's the kind of gawd-fearing-people they are....trying to create fear and make a few bucks by asking their gawd to spare you.....after they've stirred you up and told you that gawd is comin to getcha...........ha ha ha oh my....

Falwell, Roberston, Delay, what's the difference?

Well, I don't know much about Hillary, but I do know that for the most part the Clintons are not a bunch of "we're going to put it into you as far as it goes and see if you complain....."

I don't see this government talking about helping anyone out.....the VA has had funds diminished as well as the Social Security is being used to pay for the "military containment of scarce resources....that is being passed off as a war to give the president war powers...."

I would compare the current administration to child molestors if it came to gauging their concern for the average citizen....their concern is mainly based upon not setting off any alarms....that's the real purpose for monitoring of the networks and media control isn't it?

You know, you've seen the movies....the guy sits down next to the victim to see if they'll start hollering....if they start crying they know they're home free proceed to molest.....bush seem like those kind of people......just pushing to see if "she's" going to scream and attract some attention getting him arrested....not concerned about anything but his pleasure....I'm concerned about his pleasure too......it would please me to see him actually have to take it like the others during the vietnam WAR actually took it.....instead of asking his daddy to pull some strings......there's a real difference between a persons sexual indiscretion, which is really not something that is the country's business and fraud, murder, robbery, or constitutional abuse...don't you think? or can you?


You know abusive spouses always say, "she deserved it, she made me do it....after they start it to begin with.....you get excited about dominating women doncha........gotcha.....that's allright...you'll be getting your turn in the barrel, just don't come crying to me when it hurts.....I'll be pushing harder.

You could even say that the WMD is that sortof ploy...."they hit me, I had to kick them down the stairs"...

no connection, no validation and you slomos can't get it straight that you're pandering to the one guy that is going to sell your share in the company to another country......how much land does saudi own in the United States right now....any idea...do you know how much money is invested in the United States by the Saudis? Noticed any ROYAL banks going up in your neighborhood.....think they're talking about England?

bring it on slowballs.

Posted by: Ho, ho, ho, merry christmas.....I'm going to roast your nuts on the fire of truth sweethearts.... | January 18, 2006 12:06 AM | Report abuse

Chris,

You also should have noted that Clinton's comment was in the context of specific examples that, in her mind, led to her comment. Delay and others have run the House in a very restrictive way with respect to the minority party. Clinton's comment also was made in front of a black audience that included Al Sharpton. From what I can tell, did not object to her characterization.

Newt's comment appears to have been made on the floor of the House in a collegial conversation.

Finally, as you probably know, several Republicans appear to have used the plantation term. See this Google link courtesy of one blog:

http://atrios.blogspot.com/2006_01_15_atrios_archive.html#113753298994887523

Bottomline, please do a more thorough job of reporting before you go off half cocked. It takes seconds to Google this sort of thing, and only a few minutes more to read the accounts of Clinton's speech and Newt's.

Posted by: Fred | January 17, 2006 10:21 PM | Report abuse

For someone who has done nothing on the Hill for 5 years but get a paycheck she sure is critical of the present administration. Why is one of the presidents most trusted advisor a black woman. Hillary plays the race card where she can and will resort to Robin Hood politics where she can. That is, take the money away from whom she can and promise it to whomever will vote her into office. Too bad there are no fruitful policies being proposed by her in her present position.

If she wants a plantation, look at the way chicago treats the blacks living on the south side. That has been going on for generation and that is her home state.

Posted by: virgin12 | January 17, 2006 10:16 PM | Report abuse

Well, I'd be the first to admit that Senator Hillary doesn't have the power now that she enjoyed when her husband was busy getting oral sex from all the interns.

I thought it was on the plantations where the slaves where raped, but you know, sometimes the sexual harassment is at the White House-- despite protests of 'I did NOT have sex with that woman!!!'

Oh, that's right, the sex was consensual (sp?). That makes it ok to disgrace the office of the Presidency, right?

Sorry, Ms. Hillary Rodham, to get the power you want you need to either join the political party in the majority (placed there by your husband, incidentally, in 1994), or win that Presidential office you so covet for yourself.

Until then, get a grip. You're in the minority position, famous only because of your husband. You're a carpet-bagger trying to look like a moderate. You may be goin' somewhere, but (personally) I think most of us would prefer that you remain on the plantation!

JPB in Grrr (Greer) SC

Posted by: J P B | January 17, 2006 9:29 PM | Report abuse

The three corrupt members the House that the Republicans are considering to replace Delay is a national disgrace. One guy was seen on CNN handing our checks before the vote and these greedly out of touch Republican clowns are actually considering all three of these guys seriously.
They need to be put in jail for bribery.
The rules need to be changed.
This is our Government, not theirs.
We pay their salary.
We grant them the power.
And we are the People.
They should not be able to keep their campaign money when they leave. It should go back into the general treasury. They can have a small pension but no health care just like they want use to have.
Fair is Fair

Posted by: House- Like on the Hill | January 17, 2006 8:35 PM | Report abuse

HRC hit a homer. She called it like it is. House rules are so anti-democracy, they have ran it like a bunch of facists. Lest we be reminded that Delay was reprimanded three times. Once for using FAA to track down Texas democrats so he could thrawrt democracy and retain his leaderhip post. Secondly, for punishing a Kansas or some midwest congressman for not voting for Delay's lobbyist friend legislation, and third for lavish spending and acceptance of lobbyists gifts without reporting them. What was Hasterts reponse, replace the Ethic Commmitee chairman so Delay would no longer be investigated by his collegues or better said, the checks and balances on his behavior was now lifted. Then Hastert lacks the balls to stand up to Delay by endorsing a rules change that folks on leadership positions do not have to step aside if they are indicted.

So HRC calls it like it is. The House of Reprentatives is a major disaster. A rubber duck stamp for Bush Administration. THe most corrupt, anti-democracy group that has ever been in power.

Americans need to look at this as a national problem. Forget the slogan that all politics are local. IF I were the DNC, I would run a national campaign against all GOP house members that paint them as the the party of corruption, aggorance, anti-democracy, and out of touch with reality. What other group can look at the National TV cameras and say we cut the budget by 43 billion by cutting programs for the poor and then turn right around and renew Bushes tax cuts for the wealthiest 1% and add back 75B to the national deficit. This is the most arrogant and corrupt bunch in history. Makes you yearn for the days of Jim Wright and Tip O'Neill....almost.

Posted by: HastertMustGO | January 17, 2006 7:44 PM | Report abuse

We seem to have the typical extreme (loony) opinions flying tonight. But whether too far left or too far right I think we can agree on one thing. A Hillary run would be so polarizing it might tear the country apart at the seams.
She's a nutcase. Forget it.

Posted by: Pete | January 17, 2006 7:07 PM | Report abuse

I don't think this current crop of Republicans has anything to complain about for Ms. Clintons metaphor. I would suggest that it is not just the Congress that is run like a plantation but the whole country. As to a better metaphor I would suggest these new Republicans act more like the old communist central committee or politburo as none of them seem able to think for themselves but just spout the party line. If you want to know what all of these so called Republicans are saying just go to the RNC website or watch Faux News.

Posted by: Red Ruffian | January 17, 2006 6:59 PM | Report abuse

I find it disturbing that the House seems to be such a doormat for whatever the WH wants. Far more so than at any point in the past. A governmental system of checks and balances is truly part of the American way of life.

Posted by: lpdrjk | January 17, 2006 6:28 PM | Report abuse

Seems to me that her comment is true of ANY House of Representatives. When the dems are in control, they have no desire to hear from the Reps. However, in Sen. Clinton's case, I am sure it is just because when those in power in the House are dems, they will always be correct and not need to listen to the reps.

Posted by: Mich | January 17, 2006 5:45 PM | Report abuse

What point? Eventually the Republican tactic of distracting criticism by tearing down their detractors will fail. On one hand you have DeLay, Cunningham, Ney, and gutless Hastert. On the other you have Shumer, Kennedy, et al. Can either side really be all that proud?

Posted by: SA | January 17, 2006 5:39 PM | Report abuse

Thank you for proving my point bill.

Posted by: FairAndBalanced? | January 17, 2006 4:59 PM | Report abuse

Interesting to note -if you peruse most of the responses- what the Democratic Party cowtows to these days. In short, the lunatic fringe of the party. A once proud party is now Shumer, Kennedy, Palosi, and the new phony Ombama. Its sad. Truly sad.
They'll lose again. And again. And blame it on whatever, and STILL not realize that they continue to lose because the party has morphed so far left its out of the mainstream. Who are the Dems going to run next - Louie Farrakhan? Brad Pitt?

Posted by: bill | January 17, 2006 4:55 PM | Report abuse

Of course the Right condemns this comparison. B/c they - are - the - racists!

Posted by: FairAndBalanced? | January 17, 2006 4:47 PM | Report abuse

Do I think Hillary was out of line...no. I do not support her for her campain for Presidency, but let's look at the facts for a second. The House under Republican rule has seen the Jack A. buying off members of congress like Rob Ney, his money has trickled to many Republicans, Tom Delay indictments, and Billy Cunnigham. It is just absurd how this Republican leadership has led this country and have been corrupted by power. It seems absolute power of having united Government has caused Republican scandals in all three branches of Government. Libby indictment, Bill Frist investigation, NSA wiretapping, Karl Rove investigation and cronyism. It is sad because I as an independent want to have good leaders from both parties so I can evaluate the candidates and I can choose who is fit to lead my country. Now, I feel the Republican Party is so corrupted that the Democrats is the only option for me now. The Republicans are just downright disgusting. I am glad that Hillary said those things, and I hope that new Republicans will be sweep into office.

Posted by: Josh | January 17, 2006 4:41 PM | Report abuse

The rightwing fascist propangda scribes are here. Nice to meet you boys. How much do they pay you to clutter this board with your vile fascist claptrap?

Just like dueling your this kind of political behavior should not be tolerated.

See you in November for sure baby to make sure you guys are out of a job.

Posted by: How Much They Paying You | January 17, 2006 4:41 PM | Report abuse

I'll be there.

Posted by: Batman | January 17, 2006 4:36 PM | Report abuse

And on the same day the mayor of New Orleans said that "God told" him that the city should stay "chocolate". Its on wonder the Democratic Party, once the party of sensible folks such as Scoop Jackson, is now seen as the Theater of the Absurd. Its now so far left it looks like picnic day at Berkeley. Hillary is just another 4th rate fool who rode the coattails of that glorified truck driver of a husband of hers.

Posted by: bill | January 17, 2006 4:33 PM | Report abuse

First thing Hillary has said that I have liked since she became a Senator.
I agree it is true characterization of a true bunch bozos so out of touch with the world as to be laughable if it weren't true. They are screwing up the country as well as the world while their only real concern is were they will get their next free: 1) meal, 2) drink, and 3) most importantly screw or maybe golf game, can't figure out which.
I do like Senator Byrd tho. He is really cool, but rest are a bunch of spineless bozos.
Alito is smart but he lacks sense. He will not make a good judge because he lacks any shread of humanity. He reminds me of Eichman.
I say get some balls and call their bluff. Let them try a go nuclear. In fact let them. As long as you MAKE SURE THEY CAN"T HACK THE VOTING MACHINES, you will win in 2006.

Posted by: Alito meet-o | January 17, 2006 4:30 PM | Report abuse

I'm amazed at how quick the Newt 10/94 comment got picked up here and appeared in so many comments. Was there talking point distributed on a mailing list? The Post's archives cost $$ to readers. All of you pay? Does google let you in to the archives? Chris is good at repeating his republican feeds, but I'm a skeptic that most of these comments reflect independent thought.

Posted by: jon | January 17, 2006 4:21 PM | Report abuse

look people it is very simple. Bush nor anyone like him (elite) is going nowhere. As soon as you understand that you'll sleep better. This land's power is for white men exclusively! And if you disagree with that statement, then find me evidence to the contrary. Lastly, So what the House is a Plantation, what the F*CK are you going to do about it? Nothing, I thought so. Listen, nothing person, this is just the way it is. King was a Noble man in his own right, but you see what happens if you get to big for your britches (you get wired tapped)....oh and then you get assisinated too (I forgot about that one). You Hillary supporters can get excited if you want, but our soccer moms will make sure a strsightlined, straigh haired, Republican and white man will be your next commander-in-chief. And that little coon rapper outght to get tarred and feathered and swung from a tree for making that remark about GWB. Get in line or fall behind.

See you in Nomvember.

The G.O.P. aka K3

Posted by: http://therelaiblesource.blogspot.com/ | January 17, 2006 4:19 PM | Report abuse

It's time we made congress abide by the laws it passes. Give 'em all piss tests and I'll bet halve of 'em can't pass. The Supreme Court too. Any takers??
"Doubt is not a pleasant condition, but certainty is absurd." - Voltaire

Posted by: She's Right | January 17, 2006 4:19 PM | Report abuse

I don't get it. She's right, they run it like a plantation. I don't see the problem.

Posted by: Observer | January 17, 2006 4:12 PM | Report abuse

Nice new pic, Chris. Is that to lure the ladies? lame.

Posted by: what what | January 17, 2006 4:08 PM | Report abuse

to ASU92: Sharpton and Farrakan are not elected leaders on the taxpayers payrolls!!

Posted by: tim | January 17, 2006 4:07 PM | Report abuse

If Hillary is borrowing from Newt's play-book, we may be in trouble. Newt, afterall, is the master of the politics of deceit. Could Hillary be fashioning herself as the mistress of the politics of deceit? Perchance, is she stooping to conquer? ..........I hope we Democrats are not going to borrow that old Republican ploy of justifying bad behavior by declaring that Democrats were guilty of the same bad behavior. Two bads do not equal a good. Hillary's use of "plantation" is not justified by Newt's use of it.

Posted by: felicity smith | January 17, 2006 3:58 PM | Report abuse

Ah to laugh or to cry...that is the question. Why is race still an issue? Almost 40 years since the death of MLK, and his vision of equality remains just a vision. Why? Because rather than embrace equality and all it entails, this nation would rather cling to racial identities and stereotypes. MLK spoke of whites and blacks working together in this country, Jesse uses his soapbox to lure whores to his getaway condos then shafts IL on taxes, Al Sharpton issued baseless accusations about a police officer to which he still admits no wrong-doing, Farrakan and his horde seek the eradication of Jews. So you'll just have to excuse the hell out of me as I snicker at all this 'blame the racist white republicans' b.s.

Posted by: ASU92 | January 17, 2006 3:58 PM | Report abuse

The traditional media including the Washington Post has got to be one of the laziest and downright incompetent institutions in this country. Just a quick search on google produced Newt Gingrich's use of the word "plantation" in 2004, and no one cried foul then.

No wonder respect for the traditional media has gone down the drain. You guys at the WPost, NY Times, La Times, CNN, FOXnews etc have been covering the asses and lies of this adminstration for so long it's pathetic that you are still allowed to operate. I hope the Post and all the traditional media continue to lose readership and viewership because frankly you don't deserve an iota of respect anymore.

Posted by: WashingtonPostIsOneLazyPaper | January 17, 2006 3:53 PM | Report abuse

Finally the Democrats are finally finding their voice. Hillary is right the House Republicans have been slaves to Tom Delay never having the back bone to thwart his gutting of the legisative process. Allowing lobbyist write legislation and mingle with elected representatives on the floor of the House. For shame.

Al Gore said what I've beeen saying for a long time. President Bush is guilty of breaking the law. A special prosecutor is justified and much need right now.

Posted by: Gail | January 17, 2006 3:46 PM | Report abuse

Finally the Democrats are finally finding their voice. Hillary is right the House Republicans have been slaves to Tom Delay never having the back bone to thwart his gutting of the legisative process. Allowing lobbyist write legislation and mingle with elected representatives on the floor of the House. For shame.

Al Gore said what I've beeen saying for a long time. President Bush is guilty of breaking the law. A special prosecutor is justified and much need right now.

Posted by: Gail | January 17, 2006 3:44 PM | Report abuse

Pandering, pandering, pandering--but that's okay, how else can one get elected these days?

Posted by: The All-seeing Eye | January 17, 2006 3:31 PM | Report abuse

She is correct. Imagine the republicans are shocked that the race card is being used! Remeber Willie Horton (Big George's campaign). The African-American's are not dumb. They know the republican's have messed things up for them and the programs they respect. The Senior's also know that the repiblican's screwed up the prescription drug plan. It was written for the lobbyist's and the drug companies. There are so many more examples of the republicans having a choice of either working for the people or working for private/special interests. Each time they chose the special corporate interests. Everyone knows it. Everone understands it. They can not hide it. We will just let them talk and talk until it is time for the next election and then we will let them listen to us.

Posted by: Joseph | January 17, 2006 3:25 PM | Report abuse

If any of you would stop and think for a minute...whoever is in the minority will always cry "oppression"! The Democrats were in control for dozens of years, and the Republicans could never get legislation passed. So, if the Democrats are seeing it from the other side now, TOUGH! It's going to go back and forth with whoever is in control. If you are not in control, then you better find out how you screwed it up and fix it. I am a Republican, but I am secure enough to admit that both sides whine like babies when they don't get their way. Geez....

Posted by: Tom | January 17, 2006 3:17 PM | Report abuse

So let me get this straight, Hillary was just quoting her buddy Newt Gingrich? Then I guess we can expect all the right-wing commentators to issue an apology?

Yeah, right.

Posted by: Ed | January 17, 2006 3:14 PM | Report abuse

You are correct this was not the first time plantation was used to describe Congress.
Had you checked back to the Post archives you would have seen that the first notice was made by Newt Gingrich, just before becoming Speaker of the House, made the same comparison in 1994:

"I clearly fascinate them," Gingrich said of the Democrats. "I'm much more intense, much more persistent, much more willing to take risks to get it done. Since they think it is their job to run the plantation, it shocks them that I'm actually willing to lead the slave rebellion." [Washington Post, 10/20/94]

Posted by: alice | January 17, 2006 3:14 PM | Report abuse

You are correct this was not the first time plantation was used to describe Congress.
Had you checked back to the Post archives you would have seen that the first notice was made by Newt Gingrich, just before becoming Speaker of the House, made the same comparison in 1994:

"I clearly fascinate them," Gingrich said of the Democrats. "I'm much more intense, much more persistent, much more willing to take risks to get it done. Since they think it is their job to run the plantation, it shocks them that I'm actually willing to lead the slave rebellion." [Washington Post, 10/20/94]

Posted by: alice | January 17, 2006 3:04 PM | Report abuse

She may or may not have said the right thing, but at least she said something. Come on people, out of 535 members not a single one of them has had the cajones to stand at a microphone and say this sucks, and we're in danger of losing the faith of our constituents! Cowards, they make me sick. What are they afraid of anyway? Paying for their own meals, vacations and airfare like the rest of us? Please.

She may be a bitch, but at least she isn't rolling over and taking it like one.

Posted by: SA | January 17, 2006 3:02 PM | Report abuse

How long before the media mentions that Newt Gingrich, just before becoming Speaker of the House, made the same comparison in 1994:

"I clearly fascinate them," Gingrich said of the Democrats. "I'm much more intense, much more persistent, much more willing to take risks to get it done. Since they think it is their job to run the plantation, it shocks them that I'm actually willing to lead the slave rebellion." [Washington Post, 10/20/94]

Don't hold your breath.

Posted by: more newt | January 17, 2006 2:57 PM | Report abuse

No bush wants to rule as King George. Give them hell Hillery, git-r-done!!

Posted by: zbluesman | January 17, 2006 2:54 PM | Report abuse

Politicians are like little children expressing their petty jealousies and pandering for their parents attention. Whether its Hillary or Newt, those out of power are clamoring to get back into power. Democrates, Republicans...who cares...when politics overwhelms the best interest of the public and feeds the self interests of misguided "professional" representatives of you and me, we need to take our government back.....how about term limits or a third party...it all looks good to me! We need ideas not opinions.

Posted by: Indy | January 17, 2006 2:51 PM | Report abuse

We need a third party bad!

Posted by: fred | January 17, 2006 2:50 PM | Report abuse

Update Required. Here is Newt in the Congressional Record calling the House a "plantation". Mr. Gingrich of Georgia

AFTER THE PRESIDENT'S STATE OF THE UNION ADDRESS, THEN WHAT WILL HAPPEN? (House of Representatives - January 28, 1992)

[Page: H96]
Mr. GINGRICH. No, I am not for kicking the slats out of everybody. I know this is very hard for Democrats to understand, because you have run the House for 5 years longer than Castro has run Cuba. It is very hard for us to appreciate that, being in the minority.

Mr. DORGAN of North Dakota. And it is very hard for us to appreciate your having the White House. You have had it almost a quarter of a century except for 4 years.

Mr. GINGRICH. Well, we had 4 years of Jimmy Carter, and we thought that was enough.

Mr. DORGAN of North Dakota. That was 4 years, yes, but you have had it for nearly a quarter of a century.

Mr. GINGRICH. But let me explain the difference between being on your side of the plantation and being on our side of the plantation . You are saying this is the first day of the session. That is right. But I woke up as the Republican whip, and what do I learn? I learn that there is a multimillion dollar contingency fund I have never seen, which has never been audited, and which we have no understanding of, and I learn that we are spending $5,000 or $6,000 on elevators, to put marble floors in them, something I did not approve and Mr. Michel did not approve, and nobody on the Republican side touched that

Posted by: Steve Jost | January 17, 2006 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Update Required. Here is Newt in the Congressional Record calling the House a "plantation". Mr. Gingrich of Georgia

AFTER THE PRESIDENT'S STATE OF THE UNION ADDRESS, THEN WHAT WILL HAPPEN? (House of Representatives - January 28, 1992)

[Page: H96]
Mr. GINGRICH. No, I am not for kicking the slats out of everybody. I know this is very hard for Democrats to understand, because you have run the House for 5 years longer than Castro has run Cuba. It is very hard for us to appreciate that, being in the minority.

Mr. DORGAN of North Dakota. And it is very hard for us to appreciate your having the White House. You have had it almost a quarter of a century except for 4 years.

Mr. GINGRICH. Well, we had 4 years of Jimmy Carter, and we thought that was enough.

Mr. DORGAN of North Dakota. That was 4 years, yes, but you have had it for nearly a quarter of a century.

Mr. GINGRICH. But let me explain the difference between being on your side of the plantation and being on our side of the plantation . You are saying this is the first day of the session. That is right. But I woke up as the Republican whip, and what do I learn? I learn that there is a multimillion dollar contingency fund I have never seen, which has never been audited, and which we have no understanding of, and I learn that we are spending $5,000 or $6,000 on elevators, to put marble floors in them, something I did not approve and Mr. Michel did not approve, and nobody on the Republican side touched that

Posted by: Steve Jost | January 17, 2006 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Hey will you guys stop fighting already you're giving me a headache with all your bickering. Bush Rules!

Posted by: God | January 17, 2006 2:37 PM | Report abuse

The whole world is in a big mess...Being black or white it is a disgrace the way we are treating one another..Hillary has a right to speak her mind...She only said what people have been thinking for years..Do we really need a President ??? No matter whose in the White House no one has been able to straighten out the problems

Posted by: Rags | January 17, 2006 2:37 PM | Report abuse

I see nothing wrong with Hillary's remarks, and as an African-American I am not in the least bit offended. From a marketing perspective, her words related to her audience, but not in a pandering way. Kudos to her for standing up and calling it like it is. Sadly, watching the mis-steps of this republican administration is almost as interesting as watching the tv show "24".

Posted by: Dave | January 17, 2006 2:34 PM | Report abuse

The whole world is in a big mess...Being black or white it is a disgrace the way we are treating one another..Hillary has a right to speak her mind...She only said what people have been thinking for years..Do we really need a President ???

Posted by: Rags | January 17, 2006 2:33 PM | Report abuse

rather than worrying about what Hillary said, why doesn't Cillizza concentrate on the GOP's efforts to make the Abramoff scandal appear "bi-partisan" -- including their very successful effort to get the Post's own Ombudsman to LIE about Abramoff contributing to Democrats -- and the Post's refusal to issue a retraction for that lie....

c'mon Chris --- be the first Post person to say flat out that Deborah Howell is either a complete idiot who has absolutely no business being the Post Ombudsman, or is a flat out liar who has no business being the Post ombudsman. Willis, Baker, and Kurtz have already embarrassed themselves coming to her defense -- and continuing the GOP spin that the Abramoff scandal is "bi-partisan".

It would be nice if you would tell the truth, even if it does piss off the incompetent and corrupt press whore who sits in the Post ombudsman's office....

Posted by: paul lukasiak | January 17, 2006 2:26 PM | Report abuse

Hillary is right on the money with that one.

Posted by: J. Crozier | January 17, 2006 2:22 PM | Report abuse

This country is getting to the point if you disagree with the Status Quo, you are wrong. What ever happen to freedom of speech in this country. I agree whole heartly with Senator Clinton. Here is a Lady that's not afraid to speak her mind.
Great Job Hillary.

Posted by: Sheryl | January 17, 2006 2:22 PM | Report abuse

Everybody knows that congress (the hill) has been known for years and years as the "Last Plantation". Repubs and conservatives are just clutching for anything they can to deflect away from their criminality and dysfunction.As an African American I have no problem with Ms. Clintons remarks and I am not even a supporter of hers.

Posted by: Just Me | January 17, 2006 2:19 PM | Report abuse

Kudos to Sen. Clinton for finally taking the gloves off and saying what most of the country has been thinking for about two years now. The only odd thing is that the Plantation metaphor is more applicable to the Administration itself. Viz the long stream of purged ("disgruntled" we are generally told) Bush administration officials dismissed or forced out because they opted for truthtelling over towing the party line.

Clarke, Shinseki, Powell, Snow, just off the top of my head. All inconveniently honest and forthright. They had to go. What shame this government has brought upon the country. Washington hasn't been such a dysfunctional mess since the blizzard of 1993.

Posted by: Mark | January 17, 2006 2:13 PM | Report abuse

"Division IS the New World Order"

Posted by: Rancid | January 17, 2006 2:03 PM | Report abuse

When I read the header "Not the First Time" I thought for sure that you were going to reference Newt Gingrich comparing the then Democratic run house to a slave plantation and comparing himself to the leader of a slave rebellion. Unfortunately you can usually be counted on to blow reasonable if somewhat indelicately phrased Democratic comments out of proportion (see past posts on Dean) and ignore much larger republican misdeeds altogether. There is after all a difference between Hillary's comments and Newt's at least contextually - Namely that she has always been a strong supporter of African American rights where as Newt's comments came within the context of the Right's reshaping itself into a party of thinly vieled racism with a now decade long contempt for protecting basic freedoms (see for example Bush's unconstitutional wire tapping and also the Republican Party of Georgia's attempts to reinstitute what amounts to a modified poll tax). As always you disappoint.

Posted by: Jsum | January 17, 2006 1:52 PM | Report abuse

It is ironic that Mrs. Clinton is the only one with the cajones to call it as it is! Bush has manipulated this country for the benefit of himself and his cronies, leaving the economy a wreck and inventing wars just to benefit his and Cheneys buddies at Halliburton. It is his goal to remove the middle class of this country so that the lower class will serve the upper class. Hmmm, sounds like a plantation to me!

Posted by: Bill | January 17, 2006 1:41 PM | Report abuse

As the saying goes, "If the shoe fits." In this case the shoes are extremely tight.

Posted by: jlr | January 17, 2006 1:36 PM | Report abuse

Beth, you are WRONG, WRONG, WRONG.

read this from thinkprogress.org:
How long before the media mentions that Newt Gingrich, just before becoming Speaker of the House, made the same comparison in 1994:

"I clearly fascinate them," Gingrich said of the Democrats. "I'm much more intense, much more persistent, much more willing to take risks to get it done. Since they think it is their job to run the plantation, it shocks them that I'm actually willing to lead the slave rebellion." [Washington Post, 10/20/94]

Posted by: jenniferm | January 17, 2006 1:32 PM | Report abuse

Senator Clinton's choice of such language further highlights why she absolutely should NOT be the first women elected as President of the United States. The lack of wisdom or the intentional use of such a callous comment on a day we honor Martin Luther King, shows a style we cannot afford in the White House.

She owes Speaker Hastert an apology and more so, she owes everyone whose family lived in slavery an apology for a callous use of this tragic part of our history for her political gains.

Posted by: Beth | January 17, 2006 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Um, clearly the whole legislative branch is run like a plantation. Shouldn't 51% of the Senate be women? Obama is the third black senator since RECONSTRUCTION. We live in a white patriarchy.

Posted by: Atma | January 17, 2006 1:13 PM | Report abuse

Hillary has nothing to apologize for. It is gratifying that many of our elected leaders are finally saying what so many of us have known for a long time: that Bush is the worst president with the most corrupt and inept administration in US history.

Posted by: Bob in Denver | January 17, 2006 1:09 PM | Report abuse

"I clearly fascinate them," (Newt) Gingrich said of the Democrats. "I'm much more intense, much more persistent, much more willing to take risks to get it done. Since they think it is their job to run the plantation, it shocks them that I'm actually willing to lead the slave rebellion." [Washington Post, 10/20/94]

Posted by: Misemici | January 17, 2006 1:07 PM | Report abuse

I don't have one problem with this remark. It's all politics. It's laughable that the RNC does the race card, divisiveness outrage--then thinks she should apologize.

She has nothing to apologize for.

Posted by: jenniferm | January 17, 2006 1:04 PM | Report abuse

Republicans are quick to condemn the use of the word "Plantation" when used by the democrats even though the GOP has used the term "plantation politics" for years to describe the democratic party's relationship with black voters. Why no mention of the GOP's persistent use of the term?

Posted by: NYKnicks12 | January 17, 2006 1:01 PM | Report abuse

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