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Independent Group Raises McCain Health Issue

In an attempt to intensify voter doubts about Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin's readiness for office in advance of Thursday's vice presidential debate, the California Nurses Association has launched an ad raising questions about John McCain's health.

The ad went up in six battleground states -- Ohio, Wisconsin, Michigan, Minnesota, Colorado, and Missouri -- this morning, and will run for two days with a low six-figure buy behind it, according to sources familiar with the spot.

That relatively meager amount of spending means that the ad is meant to be more provocative than persuasive, aimed at driving a discussion -- publicly and privately -- about McCain's health. And, the content is decidedly provocative.

An EKG, fading images of pained McCain and a litany of Palin's alleged transgressions all scroll across the screen as a woman sings "one heartbeat away" in the background. WOW. Not exactly subtle, is it? (The ad was produced by Bill Hillsman, the man behind the successful campaigns of late Minnesota Sen. Paul Wellstone and former Minnesota Gov. Jesse Ventura.)

Making such an overt issue of the fact that McCain is 72 years old and would be the oldest person ever elected to a first term in the White House is a VERY dicey issue that has real potential to back fire on the group -- and Democrats more broadly.

Alex Conant, a spokesman for the Republican National Committee, condemned the ad as "offensive and rife with errors and distortions".

But, new polling conducted by the Washington Post and ABC News does suggest that there are concerns about McCain's age among the electorate. Almost half -- 48 percent -- of voters said they are uncomfortable with the idea of McCain's taking office at age 72, the highest that number has been since the question has been asked. And, another 48 percent describe him as a "risky" choice, slightly more than said the same of Obama (44 percent). (Hat tip to Post polling director Jon Cohen for highlighting those numbers.)

Most voters know that McCain is significantly older than Obama and has had bouts with skin cancer over the last decade. But to push it in the faces of voters in such a blatant way could well be seen as over the top and inappropriate.

As we noted above, however, the goal of these ads is not to persuade but rather to provoke reaction and conversation from both sides of the political aisle. In that regard, mission accomplished.

By Chris Cillizza  |  October 1, 2008; 11:40 AM ET
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Posted by: hclark1 | October 2, 2008 1:47 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: 37thandOStreet | October 2, 2008 6:49 AM | Report abuse

What is going on with McCain's left eye? (Check out recent photographs.) It looks droopy and unfocused. Perhaps he has suffered a minor stroke. That would explain some of his odd behavior of late, including his selection of Palin to be one heartbeat - or melanoma - away from the Presidency.

Posted by: HughBriss | October 2, 2008 4:14 AM | Report abuse

remission is the wrong term. They cut it out and wait for the next one. He is due.


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Well he is 72, has had melanoma 4 TIMES and is currently in remission.
Melanoma, which my mom died from, is usually lethal, in fact, I have never heard of anyone surviving it the first time.
The Senator has a 1,200 medical report, that deserves to be viewed by more than 2 reporters for 3 hours!
Release your medical report, and Plain, RELEASE YOUR TAXES, NOW!
SHE OWNS 3 HOMES AND COUNTLESS VEHICLES, HOW?

Posted by: Cookie100 | October 1, 2008 4:25 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: popasmoke | October 1, 2008 9:31 PM | Report abuse


Both Mccains father and grandfather dies of heart disease at ages 61 and 70. Obama father died in a car crash and his mother of cancer in her mid 50's.

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y beloved grandmother could still run circles around all of us until she was nearly ninety, and by all accounts, John McCain comes from vibrant, long-lived stock, judging from the reports of his 96-year old mother. McCain is made of tough stuff, else he would never have made it out of the prison camp's prolonged torture and deprivation with the minimal damage he did, to say nothing of the grueling pace he keeps daily on the campaign trail. Could be genetics, for all you science-worshipers. If that's the case, what's the prognosis for Barack Obama, who is only 47 with both parents deceased.

Just because someone had cancer - and BTW, not every form of cancer is deadly, and certainly not if caught and treated (I'm a survivor, and I know) - doesn't mean he has one foot in the grave. Health and longevity wise, I think McCain is the better bet.

Find something real to focus on, but leave McCain's age out of it. It's a non-issue.

Posted by: elephant4life | October 1, 2008 8:40 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: popasmoke | October 1, 2008 9:27 PM | Report abuse

My beloved grandmother could still run circles around all of us until she was nearly ninety, and by all accounts, John McCain comes from vibrant, long-lived stock, judging from the reports of his 96-year old mother. McCain is made of tough stuff, else he would never have made it out of the prison camp's prolonged torture and deprivation with the minimal damage he did, to say nothing of the grueling pace he keeps daily on the campaign trail. Could be genetics, for all you science-worshipers. If that's the case, what's the prognosis for Barack Obama, who is only 47 with both parents deceased.

Just because someone had cancer - and BTW, not every form of cancer is deadly, and certainly not if caught and treated (I'm a survivor, and I know) - doesn't mean he has one foot in the grave. Health and longevity wise, I think McCain is the better bet.

Find something real to focus on, but leave McCain's age out of it. It's a non-issue.

Posted by: elephant4life | October 1, 2008 8:40 PM | Report abuse

McCain's health is a valid issue, whatever his age. Given his VP selection, though, it becomes a matter of national interest.

Did you see the tape of his speech at the Truman Library today? Maybe that eye twitch/lip spasm thing at the end is nothing but it sure made me sit up and take notice.

How ironic to be selling the "hidden potential" of his untested VP pick (in an historically ludicrous but nameless comparison to Truman) while providing voters with the scary visual that Palin may need to be ready asap.

McCain's health has been of growing concern to me (every time I hear Palin speak). Now, given his most recent public appearance, it's of even GREATER concern to me.

(And it should be to you, too, Chris.)

Posted by: miraclestudies | October 1, 2008 5:06 PM | Report abuse

armpeg,
YOU HAVE BEEN REPORTED FOR ABUSE.

Posted by: Cookie100 | October 1, 2008 4:30 PM | Report abuse

Well he is 72, has had melanoma 4 TIMES and is currently in remission.
Melanoma, which my mom died from, is usually lethal, in fact, I have never heard of anyone surviving it the first time.
The Senator has a 1,200 medical report, that deserves to be viewed by more than 2 reporters for 3 hours!
Release your medical report, and Plain, RELEASE YOUR TAXES, NOW!
SHE OWNS 3 HOMES AND COUNTLESS VEHICLES, HOW?

Posted by: Cookie100 | October 1, 2008 4:25 PM | Report abuse

Here is video from McCain's speech today, in slow motion, making it painfully clear that something is physically wrong with McCain.


Slow-motion video of McCain's facial convulsions:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haIAN02tlLM
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Posted by: DrainYou | October 1, 2008 4:15 PM | Report abuse

There is nothing wrong with raising the issue of McCain's health and age. He has steadfastly refused to allow journalists to have full access to his medical records, thus throwing doubt on his claims of good health.

McCain's colossal poor judgment in picking the unqualified Palin for the vice presidency has magnified voters's appropriate concerns in this area.

If we are threatened with having Sarah (I can see Alaska from my porch) Palin as president, we have a responsiblity to our children to find out how ill McCain actually is.

The recent images of McCain with the drooping right eyelid and the halting speech exacerbate the issue in most minds. His seething outbursts this week in the meeting with the editorial board of the Des Moines Register underscore the questions.

Finally the erratic behavior McCain has displayed over the past two weeks call into question his mental (as well as his political) health. McCain displayed serious mental or emotional problems when he first declare that the economy is fundamentally sound, then call the situation a crisis, then proclaim the need for a commission to study the financial collapse, then shriek for the firing of the SEC chair, then "suspend" his campaign to work on the bailout plan, then lollygag around New York rather than flying to Washington, then threaten to boycott the debate, then reverse course and attend the debate, then fail to look Obama in the eye while sputtering misleading accounts of the history of Pakistan.

All of this bizarre behavior took place over the past two weeks. McCain is under enormous stress and the effects of it are showing in his erratic performance.

It would be frightening to have McCain as president and even more dangerous for Palin to succeed him in that office.

Posted by: dee5 | October 1, 2008 4:15 PM | Report abuse

McCain put the age issue front and center when he picked Governor Gomer as his running mate.

Posted by: bondjedi | October 1, 2008 3:42 PM | Report abuse

armpeg dribbled:
Sarah Palin would be by far a better president than the racist white--hater and America--hater Barack Obama

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Well, according to the polls,looks like few agree. But don't let that stop you from going to those anger management workshops, K?

Posted by: wpost4112 | October 1, 2008 3:26 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin would be by far a better president than the racist white--hater and America--hater Barack Obama who for more than 20 years supported, and was a member of a vile racist hate-cult like Trinity UFC, laughably called a 'church'. This so-called 'church' supported and honored Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan and more or less taught from the same hate-whitey, hate-America playbook. If John McCain or Sarah Palin had been a member and supporter of a similar vile racist 'church' that was teaching hatred for blacks, as was Trinity, you liberals would be going balistics. No one stays a member and supporter of a 'church' like that unless they agree with what's going on and what's being taught. The bottom line is that Barack Obama is a PROVEN RACIST; a PROVEN WHITE--HATER, and a PROVEN AMERICA--HATER!!! The one and only reason that he's not being held to account--as McCain or any Republican would be--is because he has the political correct skin color which makes him immune from any criticism from his racist blacks supporters who'll vote en masse for him because he's black and for no other reason, and his useful idiot liberal white supporters who only see racism and racial hatered if that racist hatred is comming from people with white skin color.

Posted by: armpeg | October 1, 2008 3:06

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Thanks you Sean Hannity. I don't feel I need to say much about who you are. You are a PROVEN RACIST; a PROVEN BLACK--HATER, and a PROVEN AMERICA--HATER!!!
Of course I don't know you as you don't know Obama.

Posted by: sherardg | October 1, 2008 3:24 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin would be by far a better president than the racist white--hater and America--hater Barack Obama who for more than 20 years supported, and was a member of a vile racist hate-cult like Trinity UFC, laughably called a 'church'. This so-called 'church' supported and honored Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan and more or less taught from the same hate-whitey, hate-America playbook. If John McCain or Sarah Palin had been a member and supporter of a similar vile racist 'church' that was teaching hatred for blacks, as was Trinity, you liberals would be going balistics. No one stays a member and supporter of a 'church' like that unless they agree with what's going on and what's being taught. The bottom line is that Barack Obama is a PROVEN RACIST; a PROVEN WHITE--HATER, and a PROVEN AMERICA--HATER!!! The one and only reason that he's not being held to account--as McCain or any Republican would be--is because he has the political correct skin color which makes him immune from any criticism from his racist blacks supporters who'll vote en masse for him because he's black and for no other reason, and his useful idiot liberal white supporters who only see racism and racial hatered if that racist hatred is comming from people with white skin color.

Posted by: armpeg | October 1, 2008 3:06 PM | Report abuse

There's an amazing line from John McCain that's out in an actuarial magazine called Contingencies where ... well, let's let McCain tell us:

"Opening up the health insurance market to more vigorous nationwide competition, as we have done over the last decade in banking, would provide more choices of innovative products less burdened by the worst excesses of state-based regulation."
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http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/09/19/mccain-on-banking-and-health/
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Obviously this was written before the Lehman Brothers, AIG, Merrill Lynch debacle of the last week, and just as obviously it came out before McCain did his about face from rabid free-market anti-regulation supply-sider into a populist, market hating regulator. What's funny is that it is hitting people's mailboxes this week exactly as the banking sector McCain is highlighting collapses.


But the fact is that the banking industry was collapsing long before this week, and long before this article was submitted to Contingencies. We've been in an accelerating free-fall in our financial industry for more than a year, starting in August 2007 (and sooner for many).


But McCain still as recently as August 2008 was pointing to the free-market, minimally-regulated banking industry as a model for what he wanted to do to the health care industry. While his model was collapsing all around him he was saying, "See how great this is? Let's build another one!"


The only reason he's changed sides on the issue is the same reason he put out an ad on stem cells and doesn't mention abortion -- he can't win the election by telling people what he really believes and what he is really going to do.


McCain thought he could play the free-market card on health care and win, but the debacle that reached a deafening crescendo (we hope) over the past week had made socialists of most hard-core libertarian Republicans. McCain knows that free-market deregulatory talk is a sure ticket back to his Senate seat in January, and so he has changed his language.


But I don't believe for a second that if he wins he won't continue to push deregulation and free-market policies. He believed in the free market in the face of Enron, Worldcom, the burst of the housing bubble, the failure of a series of banks in the summer, and all the way until public opinion turned.


McCain has proven that the only straight talk you'll get out of him now, assuming you ever did get real straight talk, is straight to his pollster to find out what the right thing to say is this week.


But if McCain wins and has a four year unbreakable lease then all bets are off and his cronies, handlers and right wing base will stick it to us again.

Posted by: DrainYou | October 1, 2008 2:57 PM | Report abuse

The couple of McCain/Palin supporters I can find to talk with assume McCain will die. But they figure it will take 2-3 years and that in the meantime she will learn the job. If you are going to raise the specter of the grim reaper, then you must raise the issue of her right-wing beliefs not her current competence. No one expects McCain to expire by the end of January. The assumption is she will learn how to be President. You have to drive independent voters off with her expressed right-wing ideology.

Posted by: caribis | October 1, 2008 2:54 PM | Report abuse

John McCain is over 70, his father John McCain Jr, died at 70, and his grandfather John McCain Sr died at 61.

Modern medical science being what it is, John McCain has not lived the healthiest life (through bad luck in many cases), and he has had cancer. The odds are definitely against nature granting him eight more healthy years.

Crass though it may seem, John McCain made his age an issue when he picked Palin to be his VP. Were she competent and trusted by the public then it would be entirely inappropriate to raise age as an issue since the potential replacement would be seen as a capable caretaker. However, Palin is widely and correctly seen as way in over her head, so the fact that McCain's age makes her statistically more likely to assume the Presidency instantly forces the public to discuss whether he is too old to take a risk on.

Posted by: hiberniantears | October 1, 2008 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Questions about McThuselah's age and the general state of his health are appropriate. Questions about whether Palin can be President because she's a women are inappropriate, however questions about her qualifications to be President are appropriate.

Posted by: Roofelstoon | October 1, 2008 2:44 PM | Report abuse

The only debate Palin should be featured in should be on milfhunters.com

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | October 1, 2008 2:42 PM | Report abuse

Why are California nurses doing ads in other states?

Posted by: nrudy | October 1, 2008 2:34 PM | Report abuse

Armpit writes:

"McCain's age is no big deal exept to liberal Democrat Socialists trying to make it one in order to elect racist white--hater and America--hater Barack Obama. Even if McCain has health problems, which is not likely, VP Sarah Palin has proven executive experience and unlike Obama is capable to take the reigns of our government. "


So Democrats, other Obama supporters, in fact all American voters have no right to be concerned about McCain's age or Palin's qualifications.....because you say so ?

With all due respect LOL.

And injecting race baiting and alleged hatred of country, is a sure sign you guys and gals on the right, are starting to panic.

Check the polls, Obama is pulling ahead in a number of key batteleground states.

I can hear the cry baby right come November 5th. The liberal media rigged the election for Obama by brainwashing the electorate.

You folks on the right are a scream.

Posted by: mathas | October 1, 2008 2:33 PM | Report abuse

Was it only me or did anyone else noticed how McCain's left was twitching and drooping over the past a couple of weeks?

The twitching eye disorder is also known as Blepharospasm could be caused by stress, lack of sleep, fatigue and/or neurological disorders.

Seeing that McCain is a 72-year old guy who has severe bouts of lethal skin cancer and suffered physically as a POW we should all question whether McCain is capable of serving a full 1st term as president.

Posted by: AJ2008 | October 1, 2008 2:27 PM | Report abuse

"If we've been content with Dick Cheney as veep for 8 years, we haven't exactly been picky about who holds the office."

Uh.. I don't think 'content' is precisely the right word, since his approval rating is 14%.

Posted by: drindl | October 1, 2008 2:14 PM | Report abuse

Ya think Palin is funny? Biden cracks me up!

FDR was president in 1929. (wrong)

We had TV in 1929. (nope)

"We don't believe in clean coal." (Obama says you do.)

"The ad about McCain not being able to use a keyboard was TERRIBLE!" (Thanks, Joe.)

"We don't support the AIG bailout." (Obama does!)

"It's patriotic to pay higher taxes." (Huh?)

"Obama is one of the few clean, articulate African Americans." (Gee, and I thought there were millions!)

"Sara Palin is good looking." (Can you say sexist?)

"Hillary might have been a better VP pick than me." (No kidding!)


What was Obama thinking when he chose Blow Jiding? If this is any indication of how the new cabinet will look, we're in BIG trouble. But at least we'll go down laughing.

Posted by: jsabee | October 1, 2008 2:05 PM | Report abuse

In a way, the ad is kinda pointless. If we've been content with Dick Cheney as veep for 8 years, we haven't exactly been picky about who holds the office.

Posted by: optimyst | October 1, 2008 2:04 PM | Report abuse

Morningglory51 wrote:

The point is---NO ONE can predict the lifespan of a President.

My comment:
Actually the actuarial tables can do a pretty good job with all of the known facts. If the family history, the medical history and the current physical condition, are known, and the fact that the President receives the best Medical Care in the World is taken into account, a good actuary could give you a probability. That's how insurance companies make their money and why Person X and person Y may pay very different rates at the same age. Are the numbers being bandied about accurate? Probably not real accurate, but it is also quite clear that the probability of someone with McCain's known Family History of Medical problems dying is higher than someone with a clean medical record and a positive family medical history.
Citing to exceptions does not prove the rule. The fact that, for example, Granny Smith, who smoked 12 Cigars and drank a quart of gin every day, lived to be 104 does not prove that smoking 12 cigars and drinking a quart of gin every day is going to give you a long life (or arguably is even "safe").

Posted by: dcraven925 | October 1, 2008 1:55 PM | Report abuse

I don't know what 72 year old McCain's physical health is like because he won't give us any straight-talk and release his health records, which should scare the crap out of everyone..."President Palin" anyone?!?!


As far as his mental health goes, McCain is either senile or dumber than a bag of rocks...I mean, has anyone listened to him try to talk about economics and the economy lately?


Here's some straight-talk, my friends:
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http://therealmccain.com/economy/
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Posted by: DrainYou | October 1, 2008 1:53 PM | Report abuse

McCain's health is very much an issue, and becoming more of one, as word spreads of the way his left eye continues to convulse in a way symptomatic of mini-strokes. Read more, and see the evidence for yourself at: http://www.americablog.com/2008/10/something-just-went-wrong-with-mccains.html. With Palin as his VP pick, and actuarial charts showing a minimum 20% chance of him not surviving for another four years, voters are wise to consider his health, and to demand the release of his medical records.

Posted by: bclark3 | October 1, 2008 1:51 PM | Report abuse

Concerns about John McCain's mortality add urgency to questions on how prepared Sarah Palin would be to succeed him on short notice.

Posted by: FirstMouse1 | October 1, 2008 1:49 PM | Report abuse

Well, this is reason enough why no voter should ignore the Veep Debate on Thursday. We should all pay attention.

Posted by: free-donny | October 1, 2008 1:48 PM | Report abuse

McCain's health is a real issue. One of the fittest presidents was Bush Sr. Even he ended up barfing and fainting on the lap of the Japanese prime minister when he attended a ceremony in Japan because of his old age. McCain has lot more health problems. If he falls on the lap of Putin during some meeting with him, that will be really embarassing. Ronalad Reagan used to nap during the Iran-Contra hearings. McCain's meeting with Bush the past week also showed that he was more or less sleepy during the whole meeting. I think the American public deserves to know the real health condition of McCain especially since Sarah Palin will be a disaster as a president of this country.

Posted by: JohnMcCormick | October 1, 2008 1:46 PM | Report abuse

Excellent ad.

With such a scary person just a cancer recurrence away from the presidency, why won't John Sidney McCain III release his health records?

I mean, cmon, if he has nothing to hide....

As for Sarah Palin, Jack Cafferty has ripped her a second time. He has called out Palin far better than pretty much anyone.

I have both Cafferty videos posted at:

http://scootmandubious.blogspot.com/2008/09/jack-cafferty-rips-palin-again-on-2nd.html

Posted by: scootmandubious | October 1, 2008 1:36 PM | Report abuse

McCain will soon lose his mind and go insane...and on his next interview at Fox News he will put on a "Superman" costume and throw himself out of a 6 story window at Fox News to his death......

Then Sarah Palin woke up.....
Posted by: AlexP1 | October 1, 2008 1:08 PM |
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Are you kidding? McCain is already insane. He picked Palin to be the VP.

Posted by: sherardg | October 1, 2008 1:34 PM | Report abuse

John McCain's economic forum just now, in which McCain, talking about energy policy, stresses the importance of "ensuring that America is secure, and not dependent on oil from people like Hugo Chavez or other parts of the Middle East which is, we know, could be destabilized under certain sets of circumstances."

Scary. He seems to know as much about geography as palin-- just can't stop putting his foot in it.

Posted by: drindl | October 1, 2008 1:33 PM | Report abuse

McCain's age is no big deal exept to liberal Democrat Socialists trying to make it one in order to elect racist white--hater and America--hater Barack Obama. Even if McCain has health problems, which is not likely, VP Sarah Palin has proven executive experience and unlike Obama is capable to take the reigns of our government. Not only does Barack Obama need on-the-job-training, but Obama's Socialist tax-and-spend Robin Hood form of governing would create a sorry mess with our country under UN control. Barack Obama's few achievements--if you can call it that--while in the US Senate was his costly and dangerous "Global Poverty Act" Bill (S.2433) which he sponsored for the United Nation's "Millenium Development Goal" of 2000. (From columnist Phyllis Schlafly's "Congress Contemplates Giving Cash to Foreigners"--Global Poverty Act 2/25/08) This would have required the US taxpayers to fork over 0.7% of our entire GNP per year until 2015 to the UN to reduce global poverty. This would have amounted to $30 billion a year on top of the $16.3 billion a year we already give to the UN. In addition to that vast give-a-way to the UN, Obama's bill would have the US committed to the UN's Tobin Tax. This UN Tobin Tax is an International Tax we would have to pay for a "currency transfer tax", "a tax on rental value of land and natural resources", a "royalty on worldwide fossil energy projection, oil, natural gas, coal etc.", "fees for the commercial use of the oceans", "fees for airplane use of the skies", "fees for use of the electromagnetic spectrum", "fees on foreign exchange transactions", and "a tax on the carbon content of fuels". Obama's bill would further have put our government under UN control because the UN's Millenium goals include a "standing UN peace force", "a UN Arms register of all small arms and light weapons", peace education" covering all levels from pre-school through university, and "political control of the global economy". The UN goals also call for implementing all UN treaties that the USA has never ratified that would set up a UN monitoring committee and "strengthening the UN by eliminating the veto and permanent membership in the Security Council", i e reduce US influence to one vote out of 192 UN nations vote. While Obama's bill S.2433 hasn't come up for a vote in the Senate yet, it has passed the Senate's committee and could come up for a vote one day. With a President Obama and a Democrat Socialist Congress in control it would probably pass. Electing Barack Obama with his Socialist agenda will probably make the UN's Millenium Development Goal a reality. Bye, bye US soverinity.

Posted by: armpeg | October 1, 2008 1:33 PM | Report abuse

A cursory look at the current US Death Tables shows that the probability that a healthy male would die between the ages of 73 and 76 is ~0.14. The probability that he would die between the ages of 77 and 80 is ~0.26.
That means that if McCain were elected there is a probability of 0.14 that Palin would become President during his first term and 0.4 during a two-term tenure.
This is too scarry to contemplate!

Posted by: gprado | October 1, 2008 1:30 PM | Report abuse

peeeuuu Palin is a complete waste and joke of any type of candidate and is outright pathetic....

Looking foolish when she does not know the Bush Doctrine, or other Supreme Court cases, or talking non-sensical gibberish about "Putins' head" going over Russia...et cetera.....

Let Sarah Palin be Sarah Palin...WHAT???

Will it be heard at John McCaint's ranch near Sedona, Ariz.?

peeeuuu is cloistered there with the senator's chief wordsmith and strategist getting prepped for Thursday night's debate, with Joe the Shark....

Unleashing peeeuuu Palin would create yet another chance to shake up the race, after McCaint's return-to-Washington stupidity her performance on Thursday could be mind numbingly awful...

McCaint may be looking at the last time she spoke freely, in Juneau to a New Yorker reporter a few days before being tapped as running mate.

The subject was Alaska's program to gun down wolves from airplanes.

Wolves kill moose and elk. If wolf populations are diminished, there will be more elk and moose for Alaskans to kill.

Palin approved paying a $150 bounty to hunters who blow away wolves from planes in certain parts of the state.

They would need to chop off the left foreleg and supply it as proof.

A judge halted the bounty program, but not the hunt.

"It's not aerial hunting," Palin insisted. "It's predator control."

Uh.....WHAT???

A lot of people would call it barbarism. And a lot of people are beginning to worry about peeeuuu Palin's vendetta-filled record, as well as her ability to take over if the 72-year-old McCain should die or become incapacitated..

Although carefully scripted, peeeuuu Palin had a rousing entrance to the national stage at the GOP Convention.

The huffy reaction of feminist pundits seemed only to fortify favorable ratings for the "pit bull with lipstick"

An ABC News/Washington Post poll, on Sept. 7, found 58 percent of voters surveyed had a favorable view of peeeuuu Palin, compared to just 28 percent who reacted unfavorably.

Two weeks later, in the same poll, upbeat opinions had fallen to 52 percent, while negative impressions were up to 38 percent.

Favorable opinions among women had fallen to 43 percent.

peeeuuu Palin has been shut off from local news interviews and pulled off of fundraisers, including a lavish Hunts Point event a week ago.

Questions were verboten when Dr. Henry Kissinger tutored her in foreign policy. Even Fox News complained....WHAT??

The result was peeeuuu Palin's deer-caught-in-the-headlights performance under the eye of CBS.

Try to decipher the response from peeeuuu Palin after Couric asked how she felt about the $700 billion Wall Street rescue passage:

"But ultimately, what the bailout does is help those who are concerned about the health care reform that is needed to help shore up our economy, helping the -- oh, it's got to be all about job creation, too, shoring up our economy and putting it back on the right track.

"So health care reform and reducing taxes and reining in spending has got to accompany tax reductions and tax relief for Americans. And trade, we've got to see trade as opportunity, not as a competitive, um, scary thing. But one in five jobs being created in the trade sector today, we've got to look at that as more opportunity. All those things under the umbrella of job creation. This bailout is part of that."

Absolute gibberish coming from this pathetic vp candidate of McCaint and his laughable campaign...

Does this answer give confidence in, as the vice presidential nominee called it, a "peeeuuu Palin-McCaint administration?"

Obviously, peeeuuu Palin has been overmatched and over coached.

She gave an almost unintelligible answer about Russia and muddled through the Middle East.

Delivering bromides about democracy, Palin was obviously unaware that the militant Hamas won the Palestinian election.

The history of debates shows there is danger in assuming you know more than your foe.

Al Gore, in 2000, sighed during George Bush's answers and made a lumbering physical approach to his opponent.

The verdict across America, and in the Snohomish home where I watched, had Gore winning but Bush the more likable person.

And last Friday, McCaint behaved with condescension toward Obama, preceded his answers with demeaning remarks about the Democrat and refused to look at him.

Post-debate polls showed Obama the clear winner.

So if peeeuuu Palin looks good but sounds stupid, Biden had better not laugh or he'll be made to look insensitive.....to her stupidity....

"Thanks but no thanks to the lies that bridge America to nowhere

Posted by: AlexP1 | October 1, 2008 1:29 PM | Report abuse

Ordinarily I would say that an ad like this is marginally offensive, and of course it might backfire.

But these are not ordinary times. The nation--and the whole world--are staring at the real possibility of an economic crisis the like of which hasn't been seen since the 1930s. There is still a real danger of terrorism, the United States is still waging two wars, in Iraq and Afghanistan, and Pakistan is in a perilous state; and potential wars, involving nuclear proliferation, are brewing with Iran and North Korea. The prospects for containing and reversing global climate change are not hopeful, and huge decisions have to be made about finding alternative and sustainable sources of energy.

Who is going to sit in the Oval Office and deal with these frighteningly serious issues--which indeed might involve those famous 3 a.m. calls--is not a trivial matter. And the quality with which those decisions will be made is something that matters.

It is also a fact that in the twentieth century a number of candidates have been elected to the presidency whose physical (and in one case mental) health was extemely precarious, with voters kept wholly in the dark: Harding in 1920 (damaged heart; he died in 1923); Roosevelt in 1944 (general poor health; he died of a cerebral hemorrhage three months after taking the oath); Eisenhower in 1956 (his 1955 heart attack had been far worse than was let on); Kennedy in 1960 (had Addison's Disease and multiple other ailments, some requiring dangerous levels of drugging so he could cope; many medical authorities think he would have died in a second term had he not been assassinated); Nixon in 1968 and 1972 (he was in fact an alcoholic and almost certainly suffered from paranoia); and Reagan in 1984 (he was probably showing early signs of the Alzheimer's that would later devastate him). In addition, at least one unsuccessful presidential candidate was also suffering from dangerously bad health, which would kill him a few years later--Wendell Willkie (ran in 1940, died in 1944).

To make a long story short: John McCain owes it to the nation to have all his medical records released so that competent professionals can evaluate them and give voters adequate information on which to assess the risk the country might be running if it elects him. And, to be fair, Obama needs to release the same information, and so do the two vice-presidential candidates. Privacy can be no bar in such a case--the candidates have forfeited that kind of privacy claim simply by presenting themselves as candidates for the most powerful and consequential office in the world.

The obvious paucity of preparation for stepping into the presidency at a moment's notice that Palin manifests is simply too terrifying to contemplate. McCain owes it to the nation to make his health records fully public. If he refuses to do that, then voters simply must not gamble on him staying alive and healthy for at least four years.

And not only McCain's history of melanoma (including whether he has ever been diagnosed as being at Stage III rather than Stage II) is not the only troubling question. There are also serious and valid questions of the man's mental health. Does he have a gambling addiction? Is he (still) suffering from PTSD, as a result of his horrendous captivity and torture in Vietnam?

For God's sake, voters are entitled to have competent, professional evaluations of these questions at their disposal as they ponder how to vote. A mistake could have awful consequences.

Good for these political ads being run. They are not scurrilous. They are asking questions that must be asked.

As I said, if McCain (and Palin) have to open all their medical records--and that would include records regarding the recent birth of her fifth child--then Obama and Biden need to do the same. (In Obama's case there is are questions about the consequences of his past smoking habit and perhaps of 20-something drug-taking; in Biden's, of his near-fatal aneurysm a number of years ago. So these are not trivial matters either.)

Posted by: jm917 | October 1, 2008 1:24 PM | Report abuse

I have to admit that I really don't get why raising the issue of McCain's age and health is a problem. Being 72 is nothing to be ashamed of - we will all be (or have been) 72 if we are lucky enough to live that long. However, if you are 72, your body, and to a lesser extent your mind, have slowed (at 60, I already see this happening to me) and your remaining years are numbered. These are the simple realities of human life.
McCain really is 72 and really has had cancer. There is a non-trivial chance he will die in office if elected. It seems to me that these are facts that diligent voters should consider. He could have finessed this issue by choosing a running mate who was clearly qualified and experienced. He did not do that. So it seems to me the age issue is fair game.
That said, there are tasteful ways to raise the issue and untasteful ways to do it.

Posted by: wmw4 | October 1, 2008 1:24 PM | Report abuse

McCain will soon lose his mind and go insane...and on his next interview at Fox News he will put on a "Superman" costume and throw himself out of a 6 story window at Fox News to his death......

Then Sarah Palin woke up.....

Posted by: AlexP1 | October 1, 2008 1:08 PM | Report abuse

Of course, they're right. The man is unstable and his desperate and cynical pick is cute but, that's about it. Not what America needs to succeed in the 21st century.

Angry, bitter, grumpy, sarcastic, testy...which Presidential candidate are we talkin' about?

Posted by: thebobbob | October 1, 2008 1:04 PM | Report abuse

"Reagan lived into his 90's, Ford and Carter are both still alive"


*sigh*

Ford has been dead for nearly two years now.

Posted by: DDAWD | October 1, 2008 1:03 PM | Report abuse

Democrats for John McCain and Sarah Palin in 2008

Posted by: hclark1 | October 1, 2008 12:59 PM | Report abuse

"BTW: all good Christians go to heaven and live eternity with God. What's so horrible about being with God? What is there to fear?"
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prove it!

Posted by: not-me | October 1, 2008 12:56 PM | Report abuse

Palin on climate change--


"It kind of doesn't matter whether man’s activities are to blame or not, because, you know, if we’re not the cause then we’re, kind of, not the solution either."

Like, you know, she is, like, an idiot. The Valley Girl Governor.

Posted by: drindl | October 1, 2008 12:51 PM | Report abuse

In an interview this morning with NPR, Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) said that he has often turned to Gov. Sarah Palin (R-AK) for foreign policy advice:

NPR: Given what you’ve said Senator, is there an occasion where you could imagine turning to Governor Palin for advice in a foreign policy crisis.

MCCAIN: I’ve turned to her advice many times in the past, I can’t imagine turning to Senator Obama or Senator Biden because they’ve been wrong. They were wrong about Iraq, wrong about Russia –

NPR: But would you turn to Governor Palin?

MCCAIN: I certainly wouldn’t turn to them, and I’ve already turned to Governor Palin.'

According to the McCain campaign, Palin’s foreign policy experience that the senator is relying upon includes: 1) the fact that Alaska is near Russia, and 2) she allegedly “knows more about energy than probably anyone else in the United States of America.” In the NPR interview, McCain talked about Palin’s proximity to Russia, stating that it was important because “they have had certain relationships.” (They haven’t.)

God help us.

Posted by: drindl | October 1, 2008 12:48 PM | Report abuse

He brought it on himself by choosing Palin. The only reason anyone cares about McCain's age (at least out loud) is that people are afraid of another idiot as President.

Posted by: orenmil | October 1, 2008 12:46 PM | Report abuse

Morningglory51:

Ford is still deceased and Reagan had Alzheimer's by the end of his presidency...

According to actuarial tables, McCain has approximately a 15% chance of dying in the next four years and approximately a 30% chance of dying within the next eight years....


California Nurses Association? Anyone with two brain cells to rub together would know this is a Democratic partsisian group.

Reagan lived into his 90's, Ford and Carter are both still alive, Clinton had many health problems related to his eating and lack of exercise habits, Cheney survived 4 heart attacks BEFORE coming to office, four younger Presidents were assasinated or died early in office, Strom Thurmond(although not a POTUS) stayed in office well into his 90's.

The point is---NO ONE can predict the lifespan of a President

Posted by: pab9c | October 1, 2008 12:45 PM | Report abuse

Is this political hardball....you bet.

Did the left wing advocacy groups learn a few lessons from the right wing these last few years and the last two general election cycles.....you bet.

McCain looks old, he moves around like he's old, he sounds old, he's 72 and he's had several bouts with skin cancer.

His age and health is therefore a legitimate issue.

Posted by: mathas | October 1, 2008 12:45 PM | Report abuse

"I'm waiting for the ad that highlights how bad it is medically to elect a woman: the risk of breast cancer and cervical cancer, etc.

They should also demand her medical records, to provide fodder for all those uterus-dilation jokes that Letterman can make."

That's a perfect, textbook example of radical rightiwng 'thinking' or what passes for it. Create a straw man when what you are protesting doesn't exist. Then --become outraged. You people are the ones that live in the twilight zone universe, and have for years. You are the ones who are sick, hateful and twisted.

'This is a good time to stop paying attention to the attacking, lying partisans and focus on one's own life and the people in it.'

Very good advice. So why don't you stop posting here and just go away?

Posted by: drindl | October 1, 2008 12:44 PM | Report abuse

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USA3, Only a racist would make such a remark. The 800 lb. gorilla is so common that AXA/Equitable is currently running several television commercials using the 800 lb. gorilla. I suppose executives at AXA/Equitable are idiots for spending millions of dollars for producing and broadcasting such a commercial. They should fire their CEO and hire you.

Posted by: jandcgall1 | October 1, 2008 12:43 PM | Report abuse

AsperGirl .... wild applause!

you should have a cable news show!

Thank you,

I thought no one else was noticing.

wonderful insight.

Posted by: USA3 | October 1, 2008 12:43 PM | Report abuse

According to Ken, the Obama campaign has raised nearly half a billion dollars ($429.6M) but refuses to provide the names of most of the donors. Election law requires the campaign to track this information but not for it to disclose the names of those who donate less than $200, which is most Obama donors. (Sen. McCain discloses the names of all donors.)


http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=YmZkNDAwY2I0ZTNjNGNlYWRkNmUwZjRjYTg1ZGU0MWM=


More cheating and fraud from the chicago candidate. why won't the press report this criminal behavior?

CC? this is right up your ally.


This typifies the domestic fundraising issue:

In a letter dated June 25, 2008, the FEC asked the Obama campaign to verify a series of $25 donations from a contributor identified as “Will, Good” from Austin, Texas. Mr. Good Will listed his employer as “Loving” and his profession as “You.”

A Newsmax analysis of the 1.4 million individual contributions in the latest master file for the Obama campaign discovered 1,000 separate entries for Mr. Good Will, most of them for $25. In total, Mr. Good Will gave $17,375.

Following this and subsequent FEC requests, campaign records show that 330 contributions from Mr. Good Will were credited back to a credit card. But the most recent report, filed on Sept. 20, showed a net cumulative balance of $8,950 — still well over the $4,600 limit.

There can be no doubt that the Obama campaign noticed these contributions, since Obama’s Sept. 20 report specified that Good Will’s cumulative contributions since the beginning of the campaign were $9,375.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | October 1, 2008 12:39 PM | Report abuse

I am so looking forward to the swift boating...
ayers, White Oppessors, Keating Five....
what are they waiting for?
this campaign is boring down to
a slow death.
57 states, plaguarism,
Rezko...
acorn!
come on, peoples,
there is a boatload of Mud,
lets start slinging!
it is McCains best hope!
obama gets a pass from
the media'
best on the economy?
that is a joke!
adding a tax load to corporations?
that is lunacy'
lets start Rumbling'

Posted by: USA3 | October 1, 2008 12:38 PM | Report abuse

I'm waiting for the ad that highlights how bad it is medically to elect a woman: the risk of breast cancer and cervical cancer, etc.

They should also demand her medical records, to provide fodder for all those uterus-dilation jokes that Letterman can make.

There is no point anymore to following election coverage. As of 1 week ago, the media has gone from being out in left field to being in some parallel, twilight-zone universe. The election coverage has become too too sick & twisted to be healthy to follow anymore. I highly urge readers to rediscover the arts of home gourmet cooking, time with spouses & girlfriends, and their local parks.

This bailout bill for Wall Street is only propping up a favored few in a system that is crumbling and will crumble for a few more years. It's a ripoff that won't fix the problems, just help the banking industry escape some of those problems that look like a "crash". It doesn't matter who is elected, because he will be presiding over a snowballing collapse and will be a one-term president.

This is a good time to stop paying attention to the attacking, lying partisans and focus on one's own life and the people in it.

Posted by: AsperGirl | October 1, 2008 12:34 PM | Report abuse

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BTW: all good Christians go to heaven and live eternity with God. What's so horrible about being with God? What is there to fear?

Posted by: jandcgall1 | October 1, 2008 12:33 PM | Report abuse

Omg...this ad is hilarious....My friends and i were cracking up...Its one thing u don't is piss of nurses.

Posted by: freeworld23 | October 1, 2008 12:30 PM | Report abuse

jandcgall1
800 pound gorilla in the room?
the analogy you are looking
for in the 'white elephant'
in the room... you dope.
I thought you were talking
about obama's wife,
and that would be insulting!

Posted by: USA3 | October 1, 2008 12:28 PM | Report abuse

Live by the Swift Boat, die by the Swift Boat.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | October 1, 2008 12:26 PM | Report abuse

I believe if the polls say
something, the media
and the politicians will
respond. If a poll came out
saying candidates who drool
and call women reporters
'sweeties' were favored
by 51% of americans,
than obama would win.
"sweetheart, I'll find time for you"

my wife wouldnt like me saying that
to a woman at work.
doublestandards.

Posted by: USA3 | October 1, 2008 12:25 PM | Report abuse

THIS GWEN IFILL BOOK THING IS A PROBLEM.

AND THIS IS COMING FROM A PALIN CRITIC.

AT THE LEAST IT'S A PERCEIVED CONFLICT OF INTEREST.

THE FACT THAT IT TOOK DRUDGE TO RAISE THE ISSUE IS BESIDE THE POINT.

IFILL SHOULD RECUSE HERSELF. LET LEHRER ASK THE TOUGH QUESTIONS...

WITHOUT GIVING PALIN APOLOGISTS A REASON TO DISCOUNT THE DEBATE.

ps. Someone needs to ask these candidates about posse comitatus and the Oct. 1 domestic deployment in the U.S. of a US Army unit skilled in urban combat in Iraq. It's the first time US troops will be deployed on American soil for domestic "peacekeeping" -- what seems to be using the military for domestic policing, which is prohibited by the 130-year-old Posse Comitatus Act.

Posted by: scrivener50 | October 1, 2008 12:25 PM | Report abuse

Over the past ten years, Fannie and Freddie spent over $200 million on lobbying and campaign contributions. Democrats Chris Dodd, John Kerry, and Barack Obama — the top recipients of Fannie and Freddie largesse — have all broken the $100,000 mark. It should come as no surprise that Senate Democrats were the key obstacle to reforming Fannie and Freddie when Congress had a chance in 2005, before the mortgage crisis spiraled out of control.

Fannie and Freddie’s defenders in the House were no better. Massachusetts Democrat Barney Frank maintained that Fannie and Freddie did not pose a risk to the financial system, even as they helped inflate the housing bubble by subsidizing mortgage debt. Then, when the bubble finally burst, Frank tried to loosen Fannie and Freddie’s constraints so they could reinflate it. They might have succeeded if they hadn’t collapsed, requiring a bailout from taxpayers that could cost as much as $200 billion.

Fannie and Freddie were not the only irresponsible players whose behavior led to the mortgage meltdown. The Federal Reserve held interest rates too low for too long, making mortgage debt look like a better investment than it was. The Community Reinvestment Act, championed by Democrats, coerced banks into lowering their credit standards to meet diversity targets. And certainly, Wall Street deluded itself into thinking that relentless securitization could make risk disappear. But Fannie and Freddie were definitely the biggest players, and the Democrats’ “anything goes” mentality allowed their worst excesses to go unregulated, unsupervised, and undisciplined.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | October 1, 2008 12:25 PM | Report abuse

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Death is a fact of life. Life expectancy statistics must be considered in this election given McCain's age.

Statistically speaking, McCain will die within four years. Thus, voters must consider Palin's qualifications, or lack thereof, to be President.

The ad addresses a real and important issue unique to McCain--it may appear vulgar to talk about it, but death and life expectancy are real considerations here. Life expectancy is McCain's 800 lb. gorilla in the room, just as race is Obama's 800 lb. gorilla. Everyone sees both gorillas, but no one wants to talk about them.

Posted by: jandcgall1 | October 1, 2008 12:23 PM | Report abuse

This is beyond good taste.
What's next?
a big black limo with
a McCain sticker on
the bumper,
and homeless people
throwing watermelon
and fried chicken at it?

Posted by: USA3 | October 1, 2008 12:20 PM | Report abuse

It's this kind of repulsive advertising that opens the floodgates.

All you cheering this filth on be prepared for when filth flies right back at you. And don't dare complain when it does.

Posted by: info42 | October 1, 2008 12:19 PM | Report abuse

Obama's camp should use its influence and have this yanked immediately. It is totally unnecessary, for many reasons. At this point, the McCain campaign is imploding and doesn't need any outside assistance....

Posted by: RickJ | October 1, 2008 12:12 PM | Report abuse

Isn't this the whole point of having a Vice President? They aren't there to fill an office? If McCain dies, we get Palin. If Obama dies, we get Biden.

Of course, it's morbid. But so is life insurance, DNR bracelets, "I've fallen and I can't get up" buzzers, living wills, etc. The point has to be raised -- if something should happen, will we be in good hands. The California Nurses Association says "no." Lots of other people say "no" also. Perfectly legitimate.

(And, by the way: do not tick off nurses. They have needles, and they know how to use them.)

Posted by: tomsoule | October 1, 2008 12:11 PM | Report abuse

I saw it, and I loved it,
very graphic!
I am waiting for the
U2 song in the background,
with the 30.06 shot echoing'

Posted by: USA3 | October 1, 2008 12:10 PM | Report abuse

The Obama campaign should distance itself from this ad quickly & clearly.

Posted by: bsimon1 | October 1, 2008 12:08 PM | Report abuse

California Nurses Association? Anyone with two brain cells to rub together would know this is a Democratic partsisian group.

Reagan lived into his 90's, Ford and Carter are both still alive, Clinton had many health problems related to his eating and lack of exercise habits, Cheney survived 4 heart attacks BEFORE coming to office, four younger Presidents were assasinated or died early in office, Strom Thurmond(although not a POTUS) stayed in office well into his 90's.

The point is---NO ONE can predict the lifespan of a President.

Posted by: morningglory51 | October 1, 2008 12:08 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: popasmoke | October 1, 2008 12:08 PM | Report abuse

The new ad should explain
that sarah palin faces
a much higher risk
of cervical cancer
then either of the
Democratic Candidates...
or does Biden has a vagina?
inquiring minds want to know.

Posted by: USA3 | October 1, 2008 12:07 PM | Report abuse

The thought of Gov. Palin ascending to the Presidency scares me to death. It hurts me no end, being a lifelong Republican, that I must now vote for Sen. Obama, simply for the good of the country.

Posted by: a2frankw | October 1, 2008 12:05 PM | Report abuse

The thought of Gov. Palin ascending to the Presidency scares me to death. It hurts me no end, being a lifelong Republican, that I must now vote for Sen. Obama, simply for the good of the country.

Posted by: a2frankw | October 1, 2008 12:05 PM | Report abuse

it also brings to the forefront,
the Hillary Clinton assumption
that obama would face an increased
risk of becoming a Robert Kennedy
Situation,
making both VP choices
perhaps more then historically
important.

Posted by: USA3 | October 1, 2008 12:03 PM | Report abuse

I do think, thank you much.

Posted by: toneye | October 1, 2008 12:02 PM | Report abuse

Do you mean Democrats are meanspirited and intolerant against people who think differently than them? Do you think the media elite might be trying to define Palin as incompetent and not qualified to even be the Vice President? Do you think the media elite are also playing the McCain is older than dirt and might die soon line, because they feel thay have succeeded in making Palin unaceptable to the remianing undecided voters? Dirty Tricks? Obama was not refering indirectly to Palin when he made his "lipstick on a pig comment? Liberal feminist groups only want a woman in the White House when she thinks like them? African American groups like the NCAACP only want someone who is Black when he/she thinks like them on the US Supreme Court? LULAC and MECHA only wants Latinos in the President's Cabinet when they certify them?

The one good thing about Pelosi's and Dodd's attack on the Republicans before the bailout bill was voted on, the truth about their hate and vitrol was transparent.

Duh!

Posted by: rljmsilver | October 1, 2008 11:52 AM | Report abuse

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