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Jindal Campaigning for Veep?

UPDATE, 3 p.m.: Yes, we are well aware -- as several of you have pointed out -- that Jindal has said he is not interested in being vice president. And, yes, we saw Jindal's "Fox and Friends" appearance where he had this to say about the veepstakes: "I'm not going to be the vice presidential nominee or vice president. I'm going to help Senator McCain get elected, as governor of Louisiana."

But, NEVER forget that the vice presidency isn't something you say no to if offered. It just isn't.

ORIGINAL POST: Less than 24 hours before a scheduled meeting between John McCain and Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal, the state Republican party released polling revealing Jindal to be immensely popular in the state -- a less-than-subtle attempt to play into chatter surrounding the governor's vice presidential prospects.

The poll, which was conducted July 14-15 by Wes Anderson and his firm OnMessage Inc., showed that 69 percent of respondents had a favorable opinion of Jindal as compared to just 18 percent who were unfavorably disposed toward the governor.

In his memo on the data, Anderson, who is also Jindal's pollster, writes: "Governor Jindal has obviously come out of his recent dustups with the legislature in a commanding position where he retains overwhelming support from the voters of Louisiana."

Jindal's back and forth with the state legislature over a pay raise, which he initially said he would ignore before deciding at the last minute to veto it, was seen by some national observers as a potential disqualifying problem, as it raised questions about his reform credentials.

The other data point of the poll that the Louisiana Republican Party released was the question on whether voters believed the state and the country are headed in the right direction or on the wrong track.

Of Louisiana, 58 percent of voters said the state was moving in the right direction while 31 percent said it was on the wrong track. Voters in the poll were far less optimistic about the state of the country with 14 percent saying it headed in the right direction and a whopping 76 percent saying it is on the wrong track.

"At present, Louisiana is one of only a handful of places where the public has a positive view of the direction of their state," wrote Anderson.

The message of the entire memo is unmistakable: in an election cycle where "Republican" is a bad word, Jindal has defied the traps and problems that have sunk so many of his colleagues.

Not only is he well liked but voters believe he is doing things to put the state back on track and, most importantly, he is re-shaping the Republican brand in the state. What the poll seems to suggest is that if Jindal can do it in Louisiana, he has the potential to do it nationwide.

As we have written before, picking Jindal has obvious pluses and minuses. On the plus side, it could fundamentally reshape how voters think about the Republican party and give the GOP a rising star of its own to match Barack Obama. The most glaring minus, however, is that Jindal is just 37 years old and has spent less than one full year as the state's governor; picking him would complicate -- if not entirely invalidate -- McCain's argument that Obama is too inexperienced to be president.

Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, a supporter of Jindal for vice president, called him the "most innovative governor in America" and added: "His first seven months have been a wave of reform in a state which was desperate for it."

By Chris Cillizza  |  July 23, 2008; 2:15 PM ET
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Posted by: AlexP1 | July 24, 2008 4:17 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: AlexP1 | July 24, 2008 4:17 PM | Report abuse

Alas, ...McCain will have Bobby Jindal as his VP...as I write this...i am putting my RNC card in an ashtray and watching it burn away....

I will be changing to an Independent and I will vote for Mr. Obama... I will not let this man McCain get elected and I will do my best to be getting more of my fellow RNC/GOP card holders to burn theirs as well....


http://cenlamar.wordpress.com/about-cenlamar/lamediawatch/bobby-jindal-the-story-they-dont-want-you-to-read/

Posted by: AlexP1 | July 24, 2008 4:12 PM | Report abuse

Mccain, a former drunk, drug addict, and now a deranged demented war mongering lunatic who some people are so stupid they are actually considering voting for.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 24, 2008 11:39 AM | Report abuse

Yea that Harverl law degree he made himself at Kinkos. Of course we have Mr. Mccain "Mr. 894 of 899 in his class" who could not have even got through school without his family and hasen't done a thing in his entire life on his own. His political career was even bought for him by his father in law. Talk about an empty suit, Mccain gives the team a bad name he is so un-accomplished. If he had been born into Obamas circumstances he would have lived a life on welfare and probably been dead by now of alcohol and drugs. Mccain is less then nothing.


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[Quote]For him to fabricate the claim, out of whole cloth, that the Senate Banking Committee is "[his] committee," strikes me as another sign of Obama's megalomania. That, plus more evidence that he is totally at sea without a teleprompter.[End Quote]

Obama is just a speechwriter (and his speeches are redundant). Why has no one realized they were nominating a speechwriter for a polticial job?

Posted by: FeauxBama | July 24, 2008 11:03 AM

Posted by: Anonymous | July 24, 2008 11:37 AM | Report abuse

[Quote]For him to fabricate the claim, out of whole cloth, that the Senate Banking Committee is "[his] committee," strikes me as another sign of Obama's megalomania. That, plus more evidence that he is totally at sea without a teleprompter.[End Quote]

Obama is just a speechwriter (and his speeches are redundant). Why has no one realized they were nominating a speechwriter for a polticial job?

Posted by: FeauxBama | July 24, 2008 11:03 AM | Report abuse

Really? More nuts then someone who prays to invisible people in the sky? If you believe in God then you have to believe in evil spirits. Of course I am more inclined to believe in time travel, other dimensions and aliens from other planets then religion. But that is just me.

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Thank goodness! Would we really want an exorcist as a potential V.P? This guy is nuts.

Posted by: | July 23, 2008 9:30 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | July 24, 2008 10:30 AM | Report abuse

If Jindel cares anything about his future political career he will stay away from Mccain and his sinking campaign. The best thing that could happen for him is Obama being elected and he knows it. Obamas grounding breaking campaign if successful, opens the door all the way for a guy like Jindal.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 24, 2008 10:25 AM | Report abuse

Jindal is one of the few positive things the GOP has going for it now or in the forseeable future. He's doing a good job as governor and has quite a lot of government expierience before that. I think he knows he could run in 2012 or 2016 or anytime in the next 30 years really, afterall he is only 37. And thats why he doesn't want to be Mccains running mate because he knows Mccain will probably lose and failed veep candidates dont usually have a good shot at becoming president, think John Edwards, Joe Lieberman etc. I think he's looking at the 2012 election. Obama will be President for a term then, Jindal will be a 41 year old with 6 years of executive expierience, and the GOP would probably be reenerganized because by then they'd be out of Congress power for 6 years and out of the white house for 4.

Posted by: Chris | July 24, 2008 1:45 AM | Report abuse

Chris--

So Mitch Landrieu (D) becomes governor. . . . Same problem on the other side with Tim Kaine in VA. . . .

Posted by: sturun | July 23, 2008 9:51 PM | Report abuse

Thank goodness! Would we really want an exorcist as a potential V.P? This guy is nuts.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 23, 2008 9:30 PM | Report abuse

I guess I could get behind Jindal if he would "unfix" the prisoners he "fixed" (as in "fixing" an animal) in La. Hard to cheerlead for anyone advocating the mutilation of inmates. I have to sign off now. I don't feel well.

Posted by: Guy Smashed Against BNovak's Car Windshield | July 23, 2008 9:24 PM | Report abuse

"Please don't ask any questions. Please don't ask which committees I am on. Please don't ask about my "accomplishments". Please don't ask what a community organizer does. Posted by: snObama | July 23, 2008 6:12 PM "

Accomplishments? We ain't got no accomplishments. We don't need no accomplishments! I don't have to show you any stinkin' accomplishments!

Posted by: Krishna | July 23, 2008 8:50 PM | Report abuse

The Obama campaign have paid for most everything. In fact his arrival has been a windfall.
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"How come the German and the Berlin taxpayer has to pony up 250,000 euros so that Obama gets a nice television backdrop for his campaign?" asked one irritated blogger on the website of a local newspaper.

Get used to it. Everyone, everywhere is going to pay through the nose for this guy.

Posted by: | July 23, 2008 6:08 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | July 23, 2008 8:34 PM | Report abuse

Great. Confusion and Exorcism. Can't wait til the convention speeches begin.

Posted by: Susan | July 23, 2008 8:03 PM | Report abuse

I think Jindal is a good choice for the republicans.

Lindal is a Hindu turned Christian.
He is young and pretty vital. He will be able to whisper mc CAIN when he messes up information, and when he forgets the words he was trying to say.

Jindal will also be good to wake him up when he gets tired and loses his attention spam.
He may encourage some more outside jobs to India.
He may also be able to write down CAIN's reports and talks, just as Cheynee, Obama's cousin, does with Bush.

The truth is this:

Republicans would love to have an intelligent, patriotic, honorable, young, strong, and strategic presidential candidate like Obama. Republicans are growing desperate for an Obama look alike.

Posted by: Alma | July 23, 2008 7:14 PM | Report abuse

I told you it was too much for the petite liberal brain to deal with. go back to chanting hope, hope, hope. your party is so good with the four letter words.

Posted by: kingofzouk | July 23, 2008 6:22 PM | Report abuse

I can only surmise that this is way over the heads of most voters, but expecially liberals.


Posted by: kingofzouk


"liberal, nyah,nyah,hyah; liberal, nyah, nyah, nyah,; liberals bad, conservatives good; blah, blah, blah ..."
That pretty much sums of up kingofzouk's posts. Boooorrriinnngggg..
Grow up and start thinking for yourself, Padoine learner.

As to Jindal: He is promising, but I believe would be considered much too young for such a vital post.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 23, 2008 6:19 PM | Report abuse

dang teleprompter:

Uh, uh, are, uh, uh, uh, um. That's -- that's a bunch -- so -- so let me tick these off. Deh... Uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, um, uh. So the issue is not a perception that, uh... Weh, weh, let me put it this way. Uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, We're -- we're trying to -- you know, we've got a bipartisan group here and -- and -- and, uh, uh, uh, uh, um, uh, uh, uh.

Posted by: snObama | July 23, 2008 6:14 PM | Report abuse

Please don't let the teleprompter fail. Please don't let the teleprompter fail. Please please please.

Please don't ask any questions. Please don't ask which committees I am on. Please don't ask about my "accomplishments". Please don't ask what a community organizer does.

Posted by: snObama | July 23, 2008 6:12 PM | Report abuse

"How come the German and the Berlin taxpayer has to pony up 250,000 euros so that Obama gets a nice television backdrop for his campaign?" asked one irritated blogger on the website of a local newspaper.

Get used to it. Everyone, everywhere is going to pay through the nose for this guy.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 23, 2008 6:08 PM | Report abuse

Which committees am I on again? the ones I like and claim I run seem to be someone else's and the ones I am supposed to do haven't been done. this is hard.

Posted by: snObama | July 23, 2008 6:05 PM | Report abuse

chris the last comment about the der spiegal interview kind of doesn't matter considering everyone was able to translate the words from Maliki themselves and they said the interpretation was correct...

and the fact that they came out and repeated the same statement after obama met with them

who posted that?

Posted by: dl | July 23, 2008 6:05 PM | Report abuse

Messiah Lies About His Senate Committee Assignment [Andy McCarthy]


This guy is going to be harder than Bill Clinton to keep up with. The next whopper whips along before you have time to wrap your brain around the last one.

At Powerline, John Hinderaker goes through Obama's continuing contortions (in Israel) over how Jerusalem must remain the undivided capitol of Israel, unless of course it is divided and unless of course it is also the capitol of "Palestine," which possibilities absolutely positively mark no change in the messiah's original decree, which he really really meant, that Jerusalem must remain the undivided capitol of Israel. Obama then continued (italics mine):

Now, in terms of knowing my commitments, you don't have to just look at my words, you can look at my deeds. Just this past week, we passed out of the U.S. Senate Banking Committee, which is my committee, a bill to call for divestment from Iran, as a way of ratcheting up the pressure to ensure that they don't obtain a nuclear weapon.
John explains the rest:

But Obama is not a member of the Senate Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs Committee. Obama just made that up so he could count the committee's action as one of "my deeds."

If committed by a Republican, this would be a gaffe of historic proportions. Even a Senator as inattentive to his duties as Obama certainly knows what committees he serves on. For him to fabricate the claim, out of whole cloth, that the Senate Banking Committee is "[his] committee," strikes me as another sign of Obama's megalomania. That, plus more evidence that he is totally at sea without a teleprompter.

Posted by: trouble with the truth?? | July 23, 2008 6:03 PM | Report abuse

It's rewrite time again for Obama
Clarice Feldman

Steve Glbert catches Obama rewriting (without acknowledging he's done so) his pledge on dealing with Iran.


And Patterico reports that the entire Der Speigel interview with Maliki was rewritten by the magazine:


The Columbia Journalism Review has a maddeningly sloppy and incomplete, but also interesting and informative article about how the Maliki remarks came to be translated so differently by the New York Times and Der Spiegel. It turns out that, not only did Der Spiegel rewrite the critical passage without telling anyone, it also rewrote the whole interview, while pretending that it was a verbatim exchange.


The weather's nice in most of the country. It's obvious that about 95% of the information the media is feeding us is wrong, and their attention is focused on a man who changes his position on the hour. Go outside and get some fresh air!

Posted by: Anonymous | July 23, 2008 6:02 PM | Report abuse

Meanwhile, four presidential surveys released today find Obama leading in Florida, Virginia, Minnesota AND New Jersey. Full roundup: http://campaigndiaries.com/2008/07/23/wednesday-polls-2/

Posted by: Dan | July 23, 2008 5:59 PM | Report abuse

I don't do unscripted. you may have noticed I stammer without someone older and wiser telling me what to say.

then I have to spend the rest of the week saying what I really meant to say, once I figure it out. Most of my positions are, shall we say, fluid and subject to change.

Posted by: snObama | July 23, 2008 5:55 PM | Report abuse

bon jedi - it is really very simple, even for someone with limited inteligence like a liberal. We have two choices. It is not about how they look, how they feel, how well they speechify, it is about what they will do. here VDH tells it like is is. Are you OK with the change represented in your choice?

"McCain should not get trapped into surge dialectics, but stay on 5-6 domestic themes: he wants to transition us to green energy through drilling, nuclear, clean coal, and all our resources; Obama has bought into Gorism and thinks we can hope and change our way magically to "wind, solar, and millions of new jobs in green energies"; McCain will close the border first and discuss the thorny issues later; Obama won't. McCain will cut federal spending and pay off debt, Obama wants a trillion dollars in new entitlements; McCain won't raise taxes; Obama's could make the top brackets pay, European-style, 65 percent in state and federal taxes, and stifle economic growth with new levies on capital gains, inheritances, payroll, and income; McCain will appoint judges who follow and interpret, not create, laws; Obama will do the opposite; McCain knows the military and what it can do to protect American interests; Obama wants to create a shadow civilian force "that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded" as the $500 billion a year Pentagon.

That should be his message, and he should not get involved with pro-Obama pundits refining and upgrading Obama's latest incarnations on Iraq. Even biased reporters are chaffing at the new gospels of Obamism, and the carefully scripted appearances designed to limit exposure to the sort of circus we see at the White House Press room, and eventually will want more impromptu Obama."

I can only surmise that this is way over the heads of most voters, but expecially liberals.

Posted by: kingofzouk | July 23, 2008 5:50 PM | Report abuse

Jindal? Of the kidnapping and exorcism background? Gosh, i hope so. Talk about a gaffe!

Posted by: kathleenk1 | July 23, 2008 5:45 PM | Report abuse

never bring a light saber to a gunfight.

I guess you Libs will figure it out sometime after Nov 4th.

Posted by: kingofzouk | July 23, 2008 5:44 PM | Report abuse

"nothing about content or character need enter into their politics. therefore, they seem to have the ideal presidential candidate - all looks and no content."

I'm sorry, zouk - you can go back to your snObama posts. When you try to tell it straight, you are hopelessly out of touch.

I mean, I hope you do not hope that the McCain camp is placing their candidate before the electorate based on content. He has demonstrated time and time again that he struggles with the most basic facts that a president would need to keep straight - just the little things, like names of countries, who inhabits them, who the enemy is, etc. We know why McSame isn't making any overseas appearances - he's not even ready for "Are you Smarter Than a Fifth Grader?"

And character - yeesh. The man who champions campaign finance reform, yet is constantly whoring at $1k a plate fundraisers (though I'm guessing those tix will be discounted soon); the man who decries lobbyists for big oil and energy, yet stages photo ops on oil rigs and is flown there on lobbyist jets; the man who was a founding member of the Keating Five; the creep who ran around on his wife in favor of a Marie Antoinette wannabe - the list goes on.

You would be better off just placing the yard signs, zouk - you're outgunned here.

Posted by: bondjedi | July 23, 2008 5:39 PM | Report abuse

In all probability McCain will tap Lieberman for VP. With the Israeli lobbyist at his side, perhaps he will make fewer foreign policy blunders. Of course, Lieberman's input will have a distinct pro-Israeli tilt, but McCain won't mind.

Posted by: Diogenes | July 23, 2008 5:31 PM | Report abuse

That's why Sore Loserman won't get the GOP veep nod either, much as I would love to see that.


Posted by: Nice try, dipwad, but no | July 23, 2008 5:03 PM

Or maybe it's because he is a Democrat. Duh.

LOUDER and DUMBER than ever.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 23, 2008 5:30 PM | Report abuse

It seems clear that the Libs tend to make decisions based on how you look, how you dress, how you speak, etc.

nothing about content or character need enter into their politics. therefore, they seem to have the ideal presidential candidate - all looks and no content. just like Pelosi and their congress. and their policies. it sounds so pleasing to educate everyone, to provide housing for the broke, to give away doctor services, to just turn your back on war, to run your car on the sun.

sounds and looks great, until reality sets in.

Posted by: kingofzouk | July 23, 2008 5:28 PM | Report abuse

Hey guys, I'm still available!

Posted by: Sen. Larry "Wide Stance" Craig, R-Uranus | July 23, 2008 5:07 PM | Report abuse

Okay boys and girls, don't get your panties in a twist over Bobby Jindal. Louisianna is not exactly the bellweather of the nation. No one in their right mind is going to pick a 37 year old first term governor with no record of accomplishment for VP. It just ain't gonna happen.

McCain will carry the south no matter what. Jindal would be cannon fodder for the Obama camp. He won't play well in the northern states where the big electorial vote numbers are.

If McCain has half an ounce of brains (and sometimes I wonder about that) he will go with Romney. It's his only hope for winning this election.

Posted by: Capt. Howard | July 23, 2008 5:04 PM | Report abuse

It's the GOP that's bigoted, SFB. No black republicans in Congress. One Jewish republican in Congress. In other words, the GOP caucus looks like a real cross-section of America -- if America consisted of 50 Idahos, that is.

That's why Sore Loserman won't get the GOP veep nod either, much as I would love to see that.

Posted by: Nice try, dipwad, but no | July 23, 2008 5:03 PM | Report abuse

" Jindal will not be joining him, we are told, due to space constraints."

Little Bobby Jindal not included for SPACE CONSTRAINTS? You gotta be kiddin me. Why that boy can't be more than 98 pounds soaking wet. He probably takes up less space than cindy mccain's handbag.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 23, 2008 5:01 PM | Report abuse

What a chump. Cillizza gets 2 days out of a non-story that the McCain campaign fed him in hopes of getting attention away from Obamarama. And on the sam eday, Bob Novak gets caught in a hit and run and, of course, the Post gets the facts wrong. the eyewitness was a corporate lawyer bicycling to work whoom they describe as a bike messenger.

Posted by: Rich | July 23, 2008 4:43 PM | Report abuse

McCain is so desperate for press but not that desperate. The right wing will vote for Obama over an Indian. Outsorce anyone?

Posted by: Patrick NYC | July 23, 2008 4:41 PM | Report abuse

I agree my a previous blogger..."Bobby" Jindal, please spare me. His name is PIYUSH JINDAL.

Where is JakeD when you need him?

Posted by: Obama-Junkie | July 23, 2008 4:38 PM | Report abuse

I guess my first posting was to logical to be kept on the blog. Let me repeat my response...

There is no way that Jindal was a VEEP pick on McCain's short list. There is no way McCain and his campaign would pick a 37-year old first-generation Indian American who converted from Hinduism to Catholicism less than 20 years ago and worked for consulting company that helped ship American jobs to India.

Posted by: Obama-Junkie | July 23, 2008 4:35 PM | Report abuse

http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/07/23/mississippi.spill/index.html

its actually diesel fuel, but equally as toxic. hmm wasnt McSame going to do a photo op at a drilling platform to upstage obama tomorrow?

Posted by: McSame has bad timing! | July 23, 2008 4:33 PM | Report abuse

When nirvana freezes over...

Posted by: Anonymous | July 23, 2008 4:14 PM | Report abuse

The Japanese have a term to describe a couple where the woman is fat and the man thin. They call this "Stick and Cloud".

I think this term would equally apply to a McDeath/Jindal ticket. McDeath is a big billowy white puffy cumulus and Jindal is a hard little brown stick.

They would be hillarious together, like Laurel and Hardy. Maybe Jindal would even wear a bowler hat...

Posted by: Martiniano | July 23, 2008 4:13 PM | Report abuse

Bobby's got a 400,000 gallon oil spill in NOLA to deal with before entertaining any VP notions.

http://www.nola.com/news/index.ssf/2008/07/ap_collision_closes_mississipp.html

Posted by: jjohannson | July 23, 2008 4:07 PM | Report abuse

Let us take some time to pause and reflect on the career of Estelle Getty. Normally I try to steer clear of a woman younger than me, but man was she hot!

Posted by: McSame | July 23, 2008 4:01 PM | Report abuse

The person who wrote the lengthy expose about Bobby's experience with Jesus Christ is extremely 'out of touch' with the Roman Catholic church. He belongs to the pre-Vatican 2 crowd. When one reads this response please remember the words of Sacred Scripture that when one accepts Jesus Christ as Lord and Saviour, he/she is a "New Creation"..all old things are passed away and all is made new ! WE ,Catholic Charismatics continue to be strong and to view OUR religion with respect while putting the words of Sacred Scripture first in our lives. Perhaps the writer of the above mentioned post would do well to read the Bible. Accept the words of Christ and be saved !

Posted by: Bahamaspice | July 23, 2008 4:00 PM | Report abuse

Man the GOP must be pulling their hair out. Good luck McCombover.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 23, 2008 3:47 PM | Report abuse

--"On the plus side, it could fundamentally reshape how voters think about the Republican party and give the GOP a rising star of its own to match"--

It took a whole host of people to shape what people think about Republican's. While it's _possible_ that putting lipstick on a pig might suddenly change public perceptions of the pig, it's not likely.

I think the GOP is still too bound to the anchors to start a turn-around. Once they find themselves with nothing to lose will they be able to figure out which ideas are good and which ones are bad. After that they could begin to make positive contributions to the nation.

I think that the "first woman" speaker and the "first black" president will feel the weight of "legacy" from day one and conduct themselves for the history books - assuring at least well-meaning governance, with a very high risk of competence.

Posted by: NoOneImportant | July 23, 2008 3:47 PM | Report abuse

PIYUSH JINDAL!

Where is Jake D when we need him?

Posted by: smartinsen | July 23, 2008 3:47 PM | Report abuse

Hey JBE, do you think that anyone reads your inane prosaically lengthy posts? Nah, we don't have time so don't waste ours OK? LOL

Posted by: Mtnlover4 | July 23, 2008 3:46 PM | Report abuse

McCain and the VP announcement....giggle......

He cant even describe when the "surge" had actually started and had AGAIN made a fool of himself on CBS News yesterday see

www.jedreport.com/2008/07/video-of-the-mc.html ....how sad, its as if the RNC WANT him to lose so that they can concentrate on the Senate elections instead.....

I hate to give anyone older than me advice(its insulting to talk down to the elderly) but if McCain wants to succeed and get the press to spend more time with him and his "Straight Talk Express" bus/airplane/loveseat.....he needs to get into the 21st century and here is how....

Cindy should buy him a "Bluetooth" ...(not the one you put in your mouth)... a "Blackberry"...an IPOD...and of course a GPS device...and maybe he'll finally get his facts straight....

Now for the elephant in the RNC headquarters taking a dump on the chairmans desk, it seems that whoever he picks has to be young, healthy, smart, good public speaker, a republican,....wait a minute....there is but no other choice but Bobby Jindal..

...but that will need to be for another time he's currently performing exorcisms at the RNC....

Karl Rove has been invaded by George Carlin......

http://cenlamar.wordpress.com/about-cenlamar/lamediawatch/bobby-jindal-the-story-they-dont-want-you-to-read/

http://www.newoxfordreview.org/article.jsp?did=1294-jindal

Posted by: AlexP1 | July 23, 2008 3:33 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: AJ526 | July 23, 2008 3:30 PM | Report abuse

LMAO! STOP IT! STOP IT! HA!HA!HA!HA!

Chris, I am tired of you reporting on this McCain VEEP crap and disappointed that the GOP party leaders would see fit to use Jindal's ethnicity to distract the media.

I have said it from the beginning that Jindal is not on any McCain VEEP short list. It's all a sham to get media attention on McCain. If Obama had not won the Democratic nomination, the GOP would not be even mentioning the name of PIYUSH JINDAL!

That's right his legal name is PIYUSH JINDAL not "Bobby" Jindal. If Jindal got a speeding ticket and went to court, the baliff would read out his name as PIYUSH JINDAL, not this "Bobby" Jindal crap!

The state GOP is releasing this internal state polling information at a time when their media counterpart FOX NEWS is reporting that Jindal's taken himself out of the running for VEEP (like he really had a chance).

Man, talk about not knowing what the other hand is doing!

Chris, stop trying to distract us with Jindal for McCain's VEEP garbage. The Republican base would silently rebuke a McCain/Jindal ticket. I could easily see Bob Barr garnering 40% of the Republican vote if the GOP offers a McCain/Jindal.

Still LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Obama-Junkie | July 23, 2008 3:22 PM | Report abuse

LOUD and DUMB and Bigoted. Impressive.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 23, 2008 3:17 PM | Report abuse

Mark we are talkiing about Katie couric.

Posted by: kingofzouk | July 23, 2008 3:15 PM | Report abuse

Eric Cantor? The GOP's token Jew in Congress? Never happen.

Posted by: Spectator2 | July 23, 2008 3:14 PM | Report abuse

Assuming the Jindal thread is dead, I am attempting a threadjack.

The editing of McC's incorrect response that the surge preceded in time, and was required for, the Sunni awakening, by a network news presentation is a major story in its own right. The gravamen of the story is that the news team completely deleted McC's answer to the question and substituted another answer, given to another question.

1] Exactly what happened? Chris?

2] For those of you who have taken Journalism 101, is there any justification for this in journalistic ethics? Chris?

I cannot imagine how long I would have had my law license suspended if I had edited a videotape deposition in the way that this has been described.

Posted by: MarkInAustin | July 23, 2008 3:12 PM | Report abuse

Think about it. President Jindal. Yep, if McCain were elected (shudder), we might see it if (and when) he becomes incapacitated.

Posted by: oberle | July 23, 2008 3:12 PM | Report abuse

So this is how McCain plans to turnout the racist GOP, by having a Indian-American as VP. This will turn at least one sourthern state for Obama, because the rednecks will stay home.

Posted by: Peter | July 23, 2008 3:09 PM | Report abuse

YAY FOR JINDAL! We'll have THE EXORCIST RUNNING FOR VICE PRESIDENT!!!

AWESOME!

Wait a sec- how do we know he isn't the anti-christ?

It has been reposted everywhere but read Bobby Jindal's own writing on the exorcism he performed here:

http://www.dailykingfish.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=224

Here is the text of Kingfish's re-posting of Jindal's own writing:

If you are looking for Bobby Jindal before politics, the only thing you will find is a series of essays he wrote about converting from Hinduism to Catholicism. But don't worry. The essays are actually fascinating and revealing, which is probably why Mr. Jindal does not want you to read at least one of them.
"Beating a Demon":

Of the Collected Works of Bobby Jindal, one story, in particular, has been the subject of intense scrutiny. The story concerns Mr. Jindal, as an undergraduate, participating in a strange type of exorcism ceremony. This experience, claims Mr. Jindal, helped to underscore his nascent Catholic faith.

This, in a truncated and paraphrased form, is the now-famous exorcism story:

When Bobby Jindal was attending Brown University, he had a friend named "Susan." Susan and Bobby were very close friends. Some people even thought the two were an item, but they never were. One day, Susan and Bobby attended a Christian concert, and in the middle of the show, Susan got up and left. Bobby knew something was wrong. He followed her outside, and she was sobbing. Bobby tried to console her. A female friend showed up and gave Susan a hug. Bobby knew the problem would not go away with a hug, and he offered to walk her back to her dorm room. Once they were in the room, Susan confessed why she was upset. She said she had cancer. Skin cancer. Bobby promised to stand by her forever. He sat next to her in bed and distracted her with "fairy tales." Susan calmed down.
The next time they were supposed to meet for dinner, Susan was late. She refused to apologize, so Bobby refused to speak with her for a week. But they quickly resolved everything when Susan opened up about her nightmares and the strange, unknown odors emanating from her dorm room. Bobby attributed the odor to the devil, because it smelled like sulfur. Susan also told Bobby about speaking in tongues and visions she had. Bobby became worried and scared. Bobby had heard a priest claim that "angels, spirits, and other such apparitions" were not meant for literal interpretation. Still, he wanted to believe Susan.

When Susan was telling Bobby this, he excused himself and left the room. Then, he made the sign of the cross and prayed to God for help. When he walked back into the room, Susan "angrily lashed out" at Bobby, and he thought, "Gee. Thanks God. So much for prayer."

The next day, when Susan went for another set of tests, Bobby and his friends in the University Christian Fellowship club (UCF) organized a prayer meeting for Susan later that evening. Bobby asked Susan if she wanted him to attend the meeting. At first she said no, but she quickly changed her mind.

The UCF prayer meeting was held in a classroom. A group of people, including Bobby, Susan, and Susan's sister, sat in a circle on the floor and sang songs and prayed together. Suddenly, right after a group prayer, Susan "emitted some strange guttural sounds." Bobby thought she may be having a seizure. Susan's sister told everyone to place their hands on Susan's body. Bobby "refused" and "froze in horror." Susan began to scream Bobby's name. She yelled, "Bobby, you cannot even love Susan." Bobby thought it was funny she referred to herself in the third person. Bobby walked to the back of the room, and Susan began insulting every person in the room, revealing private information and embarrassing secrets.

Susan's sister and a woman named "Louise," who Bobby says was "a member of a charismatic church," pinned Susan down and prayed loudly and desperately. They yelled things like, "Satan, I command you to leave this woman" and commanded "(all) demons to leave in the name of Christ." Susan continued shouting. Bobby tried to remain calm, though at one point, he thought he could be having a stroke. Bobby considered calling the campus priest, but he also thought that Catholicism could actually be bogus. He was having questions about his faith. Instead, the students in the UCF meeting continued to pray for Susan. Bobby tried praying, but he became exhausted.
Susan attempted to escape, and during the scuffle, "Alice," the student leader for Campus Crusade for Christ, "entered the room for the first time, brandishing a crucifix." They had tried calling a "rival" Christian group to help, but the preacher "denied" their request for help and told them to not to "confront the demon." Alice made Susan even angrier. Susan tried lunging toward the door. Bobby began repeating the Hail Mary over and over again. He said, "Being new to Catholicism, I had yet to accept the Catholic doctrines concerning Mary and considered any form of Marian devotion to be idolatry." But he could not think of anything else at the time, so he prayed to Mary.

Susan eventually calmed down because of the crucifix, and her sister brought out a Bible. They all began daring Susan to read passages from the Bible. She would begin to read a passage and then blurt out obscenities. But after reading several passages, Susan changed, almost in an instant. She proclaimed, "Jesus is Lord," and then told everyone she could not remember "any of the past few hours."
Susan even asked Bobby if he was okay. Bobby told Susan's sister he would "commit" to a "nightlife" of prayer for Susan. Susan spent the night in the house of a missionary, because her roommate had pagan-looking decorations in their dorm room.

Bobby felt a renewed appreciation for his Catholic faith. He no longer doubted, as he had only hours before.
Susan and Bobby stayed friends. Susan even became a Catholic. And her cancer somehow completely disappeared.

What This Story Reveals:

Mr. Jindal was writing about a profound and transformational religious experience, but there is probably a good reason his campaign does not want people to read this essay. The essay raises more questions than answers, and many of these questions are uncomfortable.

The type of demonic possession described by Mr. Jindal is a rare phenomenon, and according to Canon law, the Rite of Exorcism can only be performed by an ordained priest. The intervention described by Mr. Jindal is strictly forbidden by the Catholic Church. (The Rite of Exorcism was practically abolished in 1999, and today, it can only be used in extreme circumstances and can only be performed in Latin). And there are other, important hermeneutical questions concerning Mr. Jindal's own understanding of the Catholic faith--his misinformed notion of the hierarchy of saints, his expressed belief in the instant reward of personal prayer, his simultaneous acceptance and dismissal of people who pray to Mary as "idolaters," his existential confusion between evangelical Christianity and Catholicism, and his failure to alert a priest to intervene in the Rite of Exorcism.
Of course, it is easy to understand Mr. Jindal's confusion and his ignorance of certain Catholic doctrines. He had only recently converted, and at the time, he was still tackling difficult and fundamental questions about the nature of faith. However, by the end of Susan's story, Mr. Jindal claims he became more convinced. In other words, an unsanctioned and unconventional "exorcism" became a foundational religious experience on which Mr. Jindal constructed his Catholic faith. For many Catholics, this may seem bizarre--and even wrong. Canon law and the Rites of the Catholic Church are very important doctrines. Exorcisms are taken especially seriously, and they require the intervention of an ordained priest.

The exorcism performed on Susan, which included the use of a crucifix and a Bible and Mr. Jindal's repetition of the Hail Mary, is not conventional or acceptable in the Catholic Church. This is one of the main reasons Mr. Jindal does not want people to read this essay; he participated in an incredibly important religious ritual outside of Church law and protocol.
But this is not the only reason Mr. Jindal and his campaign have already attempted "damage control" concerning this thirteen-year-old essay. The essay also reveals what Bobby Jindal was like three before he became swept into a wave of political appointments. He was distant, nervous, and sometimes emotionally unavailable, particularly around his friend Susan. He was having trouble reconciling his traditional beliefs with the beliefs of his new friends in college, and compounded with that, Mr. Jindal was also struggling to understand the differences between the beliefs and practices of evangelical or "charismatic" Christians and the beliefs and practices his newly-adopted Catholicism. For many college-aged people, religious and existential crises are par for the course, but for Mr. Jindal, his crisis was multifaceted and unique. It was not simply a crisis of religion; it was a crisis of identity. He was raised a Hindu but believed in Catholicism. His parents had wanted him to become a doctor, and even though he did not share their plans for his life, he still earned a degree in biology.

Most people prefer for their personal crises to stay personal, but Mr. Jindal wrote openly and candidly about his struggles. And within his work, one can see traces of Mr. Jindal's true aspirations. Although some have doubted the very validity of Mr. Jindal's conversion, suggesting that he became a Catholic for "political purposes," it is hard to imagine that Jindal, at the age of eighteen, would convert in anticipation of one day running for higher office. (Of course, his ascendance into prominence occurred rapidly upon finishing his studies at Oxford).

Based on his extensive writings on his own conversion, Mr. Jindal does appear to be earnestly (yet sometimes naively) attempting to accept Christianity. For him, the experience was painful and, at times, traumatic, but during his bouts of self-reflection and skepticism, it is easy to recognize Mr. Jindal's personal ambition.

In the case of his friend "Susan," Mr. Jindal took a deeply personal and unconventional story about an exorcism, wrote about it, changed some of the names around, and convinced the New Oxford Review to publish it. On its face, there is nothing wrong writing about a story you personally experienced, but in the case of Mr. Jindal's story of the demonic possession of a young undergraduate woman attending a small Ivy League school and participating in University Christian Fellowship meetings in the early 1990s, it is easy to see why publishing such an account could be problematic. First, for those in the Brown community who knew Mr. Jindal and "Susan" (but did not know of Susan's "exorcism), it would probably be easy to connect the dots. It is one thing when exorcisms are written about as "case studies" in which the names, dates, and locations are all changed to protect the victim, but it is quite another thing when the facts are so thinly-veiled that the victim herself becomes the subject of exploitation and public spectacle--and even more insidiously, the victim is actually merely a footnote in a story primarily concerned with Mr. Jindal's religious awakening, as it were.
Faith and Bobby Jindal:

Mr. Jindal's conversion to Catholicism is a decision that has followed him throughout his political life. In a 2003 article entitled "Who is the Real Bobby Jindal," Dr. Ramesh Rao tackles the paradoxical life of Mr. Jindal and questions whether other Indian-Americans actually understand his political agenda. Dr. Rao first notes Jindal's social platform, which is essentially a recapitulation of the Republican agenda, and then he asks some serious questions about Mr. Jindal's ability to represent other Indian-Americans. He writes:
None of his Indian-American supporters seem to have read his plans for governing the state of Louisiana. None of the Indian-American newspapers have bothered to analyze his politics. No one seems to care as long as "one of our own" gets elected to office. That no one has asked of his affiliation to the Republican Party when in Louisiana it is mostly Democrats who have been elected governor is yet another conundrum. His conservative agenda and his conversion to Catholicism seems to indicate that the 18 year-old Jindal knew well that that was the only way, as an Indian-American Hindu he could achieve his political ambitions.

But the question to ask is simply this: Is he one of our own? By what measure? Just because he was born to Indian parents? Does he reflect any of the Indian-American values? If so, how? Many first generation Indian-Americans are socially conservative when it comes to marriage and dating. But is the second generation similarly inclined? Some may even join hands with him to castigate Hollywood for exploiting sex and violence. But will they join hands to promulgate conceal and carry laws? Will they join with him to proclaim that homosexuality is unnatural? Are they willing to let only him and his fellow Catholics to go to Heaven, while they stand and wonder why they got left behind? Are they willing to force their daughters or sisters or wives to have babies they don't want?

Jindal, at 32, has higher ambitions no doubt. What if he becomes a Senator? How will he influence government policy in terms of funding family planning programs around the world? Republicans have gutted the program. What would be his foreign policy agenda? What will he have to say about Hindus and Indians challenging the "right to proselytize" in India?

Jindal belongs to a party that has historically been against immigrants' rights. His conservative colleagues in Texas, in California and elsewhere have fought to keep immigrants under a leash and the party still has little minority presence. As a minority, does he therefore believe he has to take the extreme right wing positions to belong in the party? How does his presence in the party bring about changes in the perception of ordinary conservative Republicans about the varieties of religious experience and about cultural diversity? If he is just like one of them, how can he indeed influence them or change them?

Dr. Rao's questions are legitimate and four years later, they are still relevant--not just for Indian-Americans, but for every single voter in the State of Louisiana. Jindal's transformation and precocious rise to prominence are two sides to the same coin. Mr. Jindal's writings reveal his confusion and ignorance about the nature of the Catholic faith. His willingness to participate in an unsanctioned and completely unorthodox exorcism ritual, after he had converted and ostensibly had been baptized in the Catholic Church, further demonstrates either ignorance or a complete disregard for Canon law and the Rite of Exorcism.
This is one of the reasons people like Dr. Rao wonder aloud about Mr. Jindal's faith; he is sandwiched between two competing and mutually exclusive identities: Bobby Jindal- the renamed, reborn, Catholic conservative, and Piyush "Bobby" Jindal- conceived in India, born and raised as a Hindu in Baton Rouge, the son of first-generation immigrants from Punjab. Dr. Rao questions this balancing act, and he questions Mr. Jindal's "second" conversion--his allegiance to the Republican Party.

As Dr. Rao notes, in recent years, the Republican Party has not been entirely supportive of religious diversity, religious tolerance, and immigration, issues that are important to Indian-Americans. This is why he believes it is necessary to question Mr. Jindal.

Again, the issue is not merely about Mr. Jindal's faith; it is about his struggle with identity, and as evidenced by his campaign's rapid denouncement of anyone who would "question" Mr. Jindal's own published writings, the struggle is still on-going.

Posted by: JBE | July 23, 2008 2:58 PM | Report abuse

Chris: You are behind the times. Jindal has announced that he is not available to be picked for the VP slot. This is being covered on Fox and on HuffPost too.

Please give us some insight into the flap over CBS editing Katie Couric's interview with McCain in order to eliminate his lie about the "surge" coming before the Sunni Awakening.

Also what about McCain's vicious and ugly attacks on Obama while he visited Israel? McCain is looking and sounding out of control and desperate.

Posted by: Fun and Games | July 23, 2008 2:56 PM | Report abuse

Of course La. is moving in the right direction. Could it get any worse after hurricane Katrina? Duh.

Posted by: C-dog | July 23, 2008 2:55 PM | Report abuse

That Newt Gingrich is pushing this chump should give anyone pause.

On an aside, McSame is planning a Mission Accomplished-style photo op on an oil rig in the Gulf of Mexico, and is helicoptering in from Louisiana. Jindal will not be joining him, we are told, due to space constraints.

The photo op is designed to counter Obama's grand German entrance, because the McSame camp is positive that America will eschew that coverage to watch an out-of-touch hack with a combover shill for Big Oil.

Posted by: bondjedi | July 23, 2008 2:53 PM | Report abuse

I am betting on Eric Canter of VA.

Posted by: kingofzouk | July 23, 2008 2:39 PM | Report abuse

I agree that Jindal's age and inexperience are valid reasons NOT to choose him. The argument could be made, because of McCain's age and past health problems, that it is even *more* important for him to choose someone who can take over if he were incapacitated.

I mean, more than usual.

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Posted by: Julia Kelly | July 23, 2008 2:33 PM | Report abuse

Please tell us why McCain cancelled his press availability this afternoon. Why is he dodging the media after complaining about not getting enough coverage?

Posted by: DaleEvans | July 23, 2008 2:26 PM | Report abuse

The latest moves from McCain and the GOP reek of desperation. Jindal would be a laughable choice for Vice President.

Posted by: delta | July 23, 2008 2:25 PM | Report abuse

Jindal already said this morning he would not accept the VP spot, taking him out of the race.

Thanks for keeping on top of things!

Posted by: Way to pay attention | July 23, 2008 2:23 PM | Report abuse

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