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Joe Lieberman: The Last Straw?

Lieberman and McCain

Connecticut Sen. Joe Lieberman may find many of his former Democratic colleagues unhappy with his speech tonight. (Photo by Win McNamee/Getty Images)

ST. PAUL -- It's no secret that there is little love lost on the part of Democrats toward Connecticut Sen. Joe Lieberman (I).

Lieberman's support of the war in Iraq nearly cost him his seat in the Senate (he lost the Democratic primary but won as an Independent in the general election) and turned him into a man without a party.

Congressional Democrats have made clear that they are unhappy with Lieberman but haven't stopped him from caucusing with them -- even as he was under active consideration as John McCain's vice presidential nominee.

Lieberman's speech tonight before the Republican National Convention may change all that.

The key excerpts of Lieberman's remarks:

• "Senator Obama is a gifted and eloquent young man who can do great things for our country in the years ahead. But eloquence is no substitute for a record -- not in these tough times. In the Senate he has not reached across party lines to get anything significant done, nor has he been willing to take on powerful interest groups in the Democratic Party."

• "Especially at a time of war, we need a president we can count on to fight for what's right for our country -- not only when it is easy, but when it is hard. When others were silent, John McCain had the judgment to sound the alarm about the mistakes we were making in Iraq. When others wanted to retreat in defeat from the field of battle, when Barack Obama was voting to cut off funding for our troops on the ground, John McCain had the courage to stand against the tide of public opinion and support the surge and because of that, today, our troops are at last beginning to come home, not in failure, but in honor!"

• "My Democratic friends know all about John's record of independence and accomplishment. Maybe that's why some of them are spending so much time and so much money trying to convince voters that John McCain is someone else. I'm here, as a Democrat myself, to tell you: Don't be fooled. God only made one John McCain, and he is his own man."

Receiving multiple standing ovations from a crowd of loyal Republicans is not exactly the path back to acceptance for Lieberman. And, it doesn't appear that Lieberman much cares.

This speech -- the fact that he decided to give it as well as its contents -- serves as a challenge to Democrats, Lieberman throwing down the gauntlet to his former colleagues. How will they respond?

By Chris Cillizza  |  September 2, 2008; 11:00 PM ET
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Comments

How the Democrats will respond to Lieberman is easy: they will do to him what Robert Toricelli threatened to do to Frank Lautenberg.

Posted by: Jon Morgan | September 4, 2008 2:26 PM | Report abuse

I wonder if I can park my trailer at the Naval Observatory if cousin Sarah gets voted in...

Posted by: Bubba | September 4, 2008 10:59 AM | Report abuse

I was very annoyed today after seeing this attack from Palin. I was very sympathetic with her since I also have a down syndrome 22 year lod boy. How could everyone allow this woman to get away with soliciting her down syndrome baby as a pond, also attacking everyone including the community organizers when she never even gave an interview to anyone yet. It made me sick to see her young pregnant daughter and such young boyfriend on stage, is this what our country's values are? honestly is this what we are going to teach our kids, go ahead mom and daughter, lets all have babies, live in the same house and at the same time teach the other young women how to do this. This is rediculous, and trust me this have nothing to do with Obama, BIDEN, DEMOCRATICS OR REPUBLICS. I am very sad today that these are the values we teach our kids. I also think that either Ms. Clinton or Ms. Rice or someone please say something to help our daughters to see that this is not the right thing to do please I ask someone to step up Enough is Enough, I am so speechless, this is what our Media has come to. I promise I will never look at the news again, my TV is only for watching sports. I am so tired of both partys , using women and babies as ponds, I am so sick to my stomach.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 10:43 AM | Report abuse

I was very annoyed today after seeing this attack from Palin. I was very sympathetic with her since I also have a down syndrome 22 year lod boy. How could everyone allow this woman to get away with soliciting her down syndrome baby as a pond, also attacking everyone including the community organizers when she never even gave an interview to anyone yet. It made me sick to see her young pregnant daughter and such young boyfriend on stage, is this what our country's values are? honestly is this what we are going to teach our kids, go ahead mom and daughter, lets all have babies, live in the same house and at the same time teach the other young women how to do this. This is rediculous, and trust me this have nothing to do with Obama, BIDEN, DEMOCRATICS OR REPUBLICS. I am very sad today that these are the values we teach our kids. I also think that either Ms. Clinton or Ms. Rice or someone please say something to help our daughters to see that this is not the right thing to do please I ask someone to step up Enough is Enough, I am so speechless, this is what our Media has come to. I promise I will never look at the news again, my TV is only for watching sports. I am so tired of both partys , using women and babies as ponds, I am so sick to my stomach.

Posted by: Tracey A. Williams | September 4, 2008 10:42 AM | Report abuse

Victor Flores you are a stupid retard, stop reading slime on the net and pick up an actual newspaper, dumbass

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 2:34 AM | Report abuse

Joe Lieberman is alright with me. He just stated the facts and it hurts the Democrats,knowing how a big moronic mistake they have made by nominating Barack Hussein Obama, who had homosexual affairs, during his tenure in Springfield while he was a state senator, smoked crack cocaine.
BLUE DEMOCRAT, VOTING REPUBLICAN.
McCAIN/PALIN 2008!

Posted by: Victor Flores | September 3, 2008 7:50 PM | Report abuse

Interesting how the Marxists hypocrites have completely ignored that Hilary & Biden also supported the Iraq War. Clearly, Liberman chose to speak his opinion, and because his opinion doesn't agree with the radical Left-Wing Marxists that have hijacked his former party he has been ostracized by them. And yes, I'm voting for McCain. And no, I'm not a big supporter of the war. However, I don't believe that Marxists like JObama are any better of a choice for our country.

Based on the majority of the radical, defaming, and inflammatory comments posted here by these left-wing radicals, it wouldn't surprise me if these left-wing loons aren't already being investigated as domestic anarchists / terrorists. These people are the classic JObama supporters - self-serving Marxists & Plutocratic Left-Wing elitists.

Posted by: Democrats = Marxists | September 3, 2008 7:41 PM | Report abuse

Wow... what hate! As far as I see Obama and his ilk offer no change what so ever. American's abroad are often seen as racist, arrogant people who never see any other view but there own. These blogs prove the theory is correct. Instead of talking policy and what each campaign offers.. it's just trash talk and mud slinging. Lieberman has every right to say what ever he feels - it is a democracy. Get over it. Palin has to have guts, smarts and talent to get where she has - no one can take that away from her. Frankly I'm glad I'm not American as I wouldn't want to vote for either parties.

By the way ... in world view, especially in Muslim countries, Obama is/was a Muslim as he had two Muslim fathers and religion is paternal, and he holds a Muslim name. Any Muslim that I know that turned Christian took on a Christian name (at risk of life). America might not view him as Muslim, even those around him might not, but the irony is that those that hate America the most see his victory as theirs.

Imagine .. the final outcome of 9/11 is that America has a Muslim president ...

Posted by: NonAmerican | September 3, 2008 5:58 PM | Report abuse

The only reason that Jewish senator Joe Lieberman is siding with McCain is that he is looking after the interests of Israel and not the interests of USA. He knows that McCain is a war monger and will start war with Iran somehow just as Bush started war with Iraq. A US war with Iran will weaken the one country that is capable of standing up to Israel and Israel’s hegemony will continue in the Middle East.

Posted by: hcsubbarao | September 3, 2008 4:09 PM | Report abuse

Preston Brooks throttled Charles Sumner on the floor of the House of Representatives in 1856. I'm certain there are Senators, as well as members of the electorate, who would like to see history repeated.

Posted by: sipkins | September 3, 2008 3:37 PM | Report abuse

Scott wrote: "Of course, hammering McCain's pick for VP only serves to demonstrate that Obama is not qualified to be President."

Since when did challenging your opponent in an election disqualify one from being President? Is this your first election, Scott? It sounds like it must be. So let me clue you in to how it works: Politics is all about playing hard ball and being better than your opponent ... better in every way. Better ideas; better support; better base; better at playing the game. They're not exactly out there showering one another with rose petals!!!! Challenging your opponent is part of the political election process, and the McCain camp has certainly bellowed loud and long enough about Barack Obama. So does that mean that McCain is not qualified to be President? Because I agree that McCain isn't qualified, but not because he challenges Obama.

Posted by: Kay Decker | September 3, 2008 3:32 PM | Report abuse

I apologize for whining about liberal complaints.

Posted by: andy | September 3, 2008 3:26 PM | Report abuse

You Lefties are a bunch of whining, sexist and anti-semetic losers.

Posted by: Andy | September 3, 2008 2:57 PM | Report abuse

Assuming he doesn't retire they can run someone competent against him. Or is that a crazy idea?

Posted by: muD | September 3, 2008 2:31 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin has the same tendency towards favoritism,corruption, and nepotism that Bush did.

When she first got her job as Mayor she fired or forced to resign 6 officials of the town. These weren't political operatives and this wasn't national politics. These were career civil servants in a small town, that she put out of a job because of her reckless ambition.

When the Librarian of the town wouldn't BAN BOOKS in the local library, Palin tried to fire the Librarian.

When a state official wouldn't fire a state trooper from which her sister was getting divorced, she fired him.

This is the same pattern that Bush had of favoring loyalty over competence, favoring political expediency over fairness and justice.

This is even worse than Bush, these were local everyday honest hardworking people, but they got in Palin's way, so she ruined their careers.

We can't afford another zealot like Palin.

Posted by: )-= | September 3, 2008 2:29 PM | Report abuse

Joe Lieberman doesn't even deserve to be in the Senate any longer, not after he shamed the democratic process so badly during the 2006 election. After the constituents of Connecticut effectively voted Lieberman out of office in the Democratic primary, he registers as an independent! And when Democrats actually have the audacity to support the candidate that won the Democratic primary, Lieberman turns into a whiny crybaby telling Connecticut, "I get it already!" Why the people of Connecticut ever went ahead and voted him in, no one will ever know. But, God willing, they will have the good sense to boot him out for good this next election!!!!! I'm sick of looking at his pruny face and seeing him try to get back at Democrats because they didn't support his already-lost campaign in '06!

Posted by: Kay Decker | September 3, 2008 2:29 PM | Report abuse

Joe made some very valid points in his speech. For those who have a truly open mind, have genuine interest in the good of the country and can get beyond the political party loyalty and speculative hidden agenda concerns, I think you will find some uncomfortable but important truths in the senator's remarks.

Posted by: Clear Thinker | September 3, 2008 2:22 PM | Report abuse

Aspergirl wrote: "The above post more or less encapsulates what is, in the case of Lieberman, the netroots problem. The "netroots", or internet grass roots activists that has taken over the liberal blogs and that now effectively forms the left wing of the media and the extreme left wing of the Democratic party voice, is anti-semitic."

That's right, anyone who objects to an American politician being more loyal to a foreign country than his own is a racist. Wow, how fortunate I am, I get to read such pearls of wisdom.

I take it, from your logic, that if there is an Iranian candidate for office who can find no fault with Iran, no matter what it does, who it invades or bombs, what weapons it produces, what land it steals from its neighbors, etc., and I object to that, that would make me an anti-Iranian racist too? Or is there a special rule that applies to Jews?

Perhaps you should re-consider whether those Americans who do not wish to serve Israel are anti-Semitic, or whether those who do - and who want to force other Americans to support Israel also, with their blood and money - are foreign agents.

Posted by: Andreas | September 3, 2008 2:14 PM | Report abuse

Man , Old Joe 's speech provoked quite a response.
I, for one, do not begrudge Joe speaking his mind. He is entitled to not be in lock step with the Democratic Party ( being an Independent ) and he is entitled to receive all the benifits that are due him by the Dems as long as they are willing to allow him to continueto cacuss with them.
If the Dems have an ounce of integrety, the leadership will strip Old Joe of every privlige and power he has by virtue of being a member of the majority party. They should not expell him from the party cacuss because numbers are important and the more Dem senators there are, the stronger the party is. If Old Joe has an ounce of honor, he would not accept the reduction of privilege and declare as an independent Republican and cacuss with them. If he does go that route, he then will be forced to face the Conn. voters that put him into office and explain why their state may not reap the benifits that one can expect having a Dem president and Congress.
Personally, I think Old Joe realized that he had no future in the Dem majority after he was defeated in it's primary and desided to stick it to the Dem Party. Unfortunitly, Conn. will suffer from the stunts of such an arrogant rascal

Posted by: BM | September 3, 2008 2:03 PM | Report abuse

Hey McCain, Satan called. He wants his errand boy back.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 3, 2008 2:01 PM | Report abuse

I found Lieberman's speech well-written and delivered, perhaps repaying a favor to a friend (McCain). The Senate can be very clubby. At the same time, Lieberman was elected as an Independent from CT, so he's free to do what he wants. The Dems need him as much as he needs them in the Senate.

Of course, hammering McCain's pick for VP only serves to demonstrate that Obama is not qualified to be President.

Posted by: Scott | September 3, 2008 2:01 PM | Report abuse

Considering that McCain attempted beating Obama over the head with charges of not being pro-American and loyal enough for the top job, a real sleeper issue is Palin's flirtation with the very much anti-American Alaska independence movement group which advocates Alaska's breaking away from the union. What kind of United States loyality credential is that for a VP candidate?

Posted by: Fly on the Wall | September 3, 2008 1:50 PM | Report abuse

McCain had first picked Lieberman to be his VP running mate, so it is understandable that he still shows loyalty to McCain. It is not clear why Lieberman is pandering to the Republicans when the evangelicals controlling John McCain vetoed Lieberman because he is a Jew. There will be no cabinet position for Lieberman unless he converts to evangelical Christian.

Posted by: Rodney | September 3, 2008 1:48 PM | Report abuse

I love all the assertions that Joe lieberman is going to face defeat in his next election, that the democrats in CT will drum him out of the nutmeg state. In case you did not notice last year Sen. Lieberman lost the democratic primary, threw his name in as an independent and the thinking portion of connecticut and some democrats re elected him as a third party indepndent. You dont have the juice to drive him from office so stop making pronouncements you cannot back up. The childish anger involved here is incredible. Whatever happened to the arena of ideas. He has always been independent, somewhat, from the party machine and last night continued that record. Would i vote for Lieberman? Probably not, but it would not be because he was disloyal to party or because i was angry with his actions, i just dont care for his politics on certain issues. Take the emotion out of it, grow up, review the positions and track records and vote. This countries national politics deserves better than name calling, threats and inuendo. Deal in facts, make a real difference.

Posted by: independent in Missouri | September 3, 2008 1:45 PM | Report abuse

Take Joe Lieberman,
PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZE!!!

Henny Youngman

Posted by: Jersey John | September 3, 2008 1:35 PM | Report abuse

Senator Liebermann, a man without honor or guts. He has proven he chooses self before country. He supports Republicans while remaining a Democrat just so he can keep the privilege that comes with his position as a Democratic Committee Chairperson in the Senate.

What a gutless piece of work he has proven to be. No one with any sense of honor or intelligence takes anything he says seriously.

Liebermann a man without character or honor supporting another man (McCain) who has lost all of his character and honor trying to gain the presidency.

McCain wreckless and ill-tempered. McCain lacking in judgement on going to war in Iraq, on not sending enough of our troops to Afghanistan and on picking a VP who clearly shows us "The Empress has no Clothes".

McCain is 72 years old, has had four bouts with cancer and has now brought the issue of a heart beat away from the presidency front and center. McCain made his first executive decision and FAILED!

No McCain / Palin in 2008!

Posted by: Vgirl1 | September 3, 2008 1:32 PM | Report abuse

My husband & I watched the GOGOBAGs (Gathering of Good Ol' Boys and Girls) last night.

The republican game played out like this:

The Scotch was poured by minorities denied equal American opportunities and the cards were dealt. Everyone anteed up a chip of their soul.

Fred Thompson led with one of his handful of POW cards, but due to a misprint the card actually read, "POM" - Hmmm...Prisoner of McCain??

Bush proudly played his "In other words, I can't be there in person because I'm helping Washington's hurricane effort" card, but it was stuck to his "In other words, the angry left" card and both were laid simultaneously on the table. Like any child whose parents have always let him win, no one stopped him and he went again, this time playing his "In other words, "Fear" card. Hee-hee

Lieberman played the "eloquent speech disguised as experience" card but no one saw it because they'd all gotten up to go to the bathroom where more out of work Americans were waiting to hand them dry towels and wipe their a$$es. No one at the table really likes him. Poor token Lieberman.

Tonight's game will add three other players all of whom will play so predictably it may as well be a musical:

Rudy will only play one card, the "911" card. He'll just keep picking that one off the table and playing it again and again.

Sarah Palin will lead with the "I have experience" card but no one will be able to see it because the card will be so small.
At some point she'll play her "glass ceiling" card but when it won't break on the green baize table she'll take out her gun and shoot it. She'll lay her entire hand on the table in the end but it will only be 3 of a kind: "no sex education, no available birth control or disease prevention and no choice."
But look carefully at the cards stuck to her hand in baby moose blood - "What it is that a VP does again?" and peaking out from beneath that one is the, "The Alaskan Independence Party" Membership card.

John McCain will make a grand, ostentatious entrance in his McPlane and not have a clue as to what's really going on, but he'll pick up his hand, scan it quickly and play the only card he can - the Joker.

Turn the cards over folks and look at the face of the deck the republican's are playing with - a "For Sale Sign" planted in the front lawn of America.

Posted by: Peakmom | September 3, 2008 1:08 PM | Report abuse

Based on Julie's comments, any ol' woman will do. Step right up if you have a vagina. So why not pick Paris Hilton for VP? Why not some Playboy bunny? Why not just some random mom from the nearest mall (which is basically what Sarah Palin is)?

There are dumb men, and there are dumb women, and I don't want any of them near the WH. Haven't we seen in the last 8 years what happens when stupid gets elected?

Posted by: Pupster | September 3, 2008 1:05 PM | Report abuse

Wow, Julie, as a man raised around extraordinarily strong and intelligent women, you make me truly regret even having the thought that women are every bit as stupid and easily misled as men.

Posted by: Hacim | September 3, 2008 12:27 PM | Report abuse

What the heck was McCain thinking? Is Sarah Palin a contestant on a new reality TV show called "America's Top President" or what? Sure, she's got my sympathy as a Mom, and she's entitled to believe that Alaska should secede from our country, but would you want this person's finger on the nuclear trigger when Al Qaida attacks? Didn't McCain think this through at all?

Posted by: gpbrown | September 3, 2008 12:20 PM | Report abuse

Someone should explain to Kem about Islam's "Confession of Faith". In a nutshell (Kem should be able to relate to that) it means this: the first requirement to BE a Muslim is to MAKE the assertion of Mulsim faith (ie "There is no God but God, and Muhammad is His Prophet"). Anyone who REFUSES to do this, or DENIES being a Muslim, is not a Muslim. Under Islamic law, there is no legal excuse for a Muslim to deny his faith, except the imminent risk of DEATH. People who assert that Obama is, or even MIGHT be, a Muslim only display their own pitiful ignorance (or blatant dishonesty).

Posted by: Iconoblaster | September 3, 2008 12:19 PM | Report abuse

You will be jobless.

Posted by: KEM | September 3, 2008 9:52 AM
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I just lost my job, as did several in our company here in NYC, due to the economy that Bush & Co have destroyed. My best friend in Dallas has been out of work since July, the market for CPAs has been put through the ringer down there since Enron.

I don't care what skin color you are, you are an idiot and should go back to where you came from, like others have noted I doubt you are telling the truth. You are a pimply GOP troll posting from his Mom's basement.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 3, 2008 12:16 PM | Report abuse


The TVangelists threaten us of Roe V Wade being overturn but fail to mention that both Bush administrations were Pro-Life and women still have the right to chose.
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That is because they still need one more appointment on the Supreme Court to try and overturn it. Which McShame and Palin will gladly do. If you say you supported Clinton and now Palin you are doing so because they are both women? Even though they stand for polar opposites? You are a fool, but even fools sadly can vote, that's what got us Bush to begin with.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 3, 2008 12:09 PM | Report abuse

Leave Lieberman alone, you nut heads. I am a democrat but i will never vote for obama bin barack. The guy is a covert muslim. I know this because i'm from Africa. This so called liberal whites supporting him are going to wake up and scratch their heads "what have we just done?". You will be jobless.

Posted by: KEM | September 3, 2008 9:52 AM


I'm a black dude from Richmond VA - USA and I can't believe you know what the hell your talking about. If you feel that strongly then take your arse back to Africa and see if you can find a job there. GTFOH.

Posted by: rottnkid | September 3, 2008 12:06 PM | Report abuse

julie

oh please

the woman is overwhelmingly the WORST choice for VP...in our history as a nation.

It has nothing to do with her being a woman... aside the republicans are unsuccessfully using her as a "trojan horse".

Unfortunately people like you are like "oh look! they are so noble giving us this gift"

This woman has ethical issues out the wazoo...as much executive experience overseeing a town of 7000 and a state government whose legislature is only open 90 days each year...as I got being high school student body president for 2 years and residential student body president for 2 years in a college of 10,000.

do I have enough executive experience to be the leader of the free world...even if like Palin, I can't spell mujahadeen never mind tell you what they are and how they threaten us...

ugh


Posted by: Anonymous | September 3, 2008 12:03 PM | Report abuse

Does any one actually listen to Joe LIE-berman.. he is what I would call all a Judas... once promise anything he will stab you in the back... I suppose the republicans are all happy and rightfully so. But this man has stooped to an all time low. I really hope that they have promised him alot.. lol lol

Posted by: Tony | September 3, 2008 12:00 PM | Report abuse

Does any one actually listen to Joe LIE-berman.. he is what I would call all a Judas... once promise anything he will stab you in the back... I suppose the republicans are all happy and rightfully so. But this man has stooped to an all time low. I really hope that have promised him alot.. lol lol

Posted by: Tony | September 3, 2008 11:58 AM | Report abuse

NOW, the National Organization for Women will be calling for a National Boycott of US Magazine. Their continued sexist comments towards Sarah Palin is absolutely disgraceful! I have cancelled my subscription and have urged my corporate headquarters marketing department to cancel our advertising indefinitely in US Magazine and urge other clients to do the same.

I am a life-long democratic woman who supported Hillary Clinton along with 18 million others. I keep hearing Democratic strategists declaring that we "disgruntled Hillary supporters" will not vote for McCain simply because he chose a woman to be his VP. But this is NOT TRUE!

I along with thousands of other Hillary supporters WILL be voting for McCain and Sarah Palin because we WANT to see a woman as VP and voters like myself see it as a brilliant move by McCain to reach out to us women voters.

The TVangelists threaten us of Roe V Wade being overturn but fail to mention that both Bush administrations were Pro-Life and women still have the right to chose.

When Colorado Democratic Party leader Billy Compton intimidated Sacha Millstone asking her to resign as a Delegate because she had second thoughts on Obama was outrageous! When the sexist/racist Emil Jones called Delmarie Cobb who supported Hillary an "Uncle Tom" infuriates us women!

I am asking other Democratic women to join us in sending a message to our Democratic Party Leadership that THEY do not chose our Nominee by intimidating elected Delegates into voting for THEIR choice.

Posted by: Julie | September 3, 2008 11:57 AM | Report abuse

KEM

your not from Africa your from A.hole
so what if he is muslim,who cares Mcshame dont have no Religion.

Posted by: yes we can | September 3, 2008 11:53 AM | Report abuse

Lieberman is a profile in courage. He spoke the truth.

And the more the Democrats trash him, the pettier and more foolish they look. Remember, approval ratings for the Democrat leaders of Congress are way below Pres. Bush.

Posted by: j.a.m. | September 3, 2008 11:42 AM | Report abuse

Of course I am interested to know if the speech made last night is Lieberman's last straw for the Democratic party, but as a Democrat and Connecticut resident, I find it ridiculous for Lieberman to continue calling himself a Democrat and assume he'll continue to have the party's votes.

He'd better have an excellent package promised from the McCain camp cuz he won't be re-elected in Connecticut. No way!

Posted by: SusanRFB | September 3, 2008 11:39 AM | Report abuse

The old boy Senate club has spoken.

The main message is : Somebody really messed up this country while we were in charge, and we are the ones that will fix it. Never mind the facts.

Will Putin use the Russian army to drive the Russian army out of Georgia?

Those incredible Republicans! They set the house on fire, then claim that they are the fire department.

Posted by: Glenn | September 3, 2008 11:39 AM | Report abuse

McCain and Lieberman should be apologizing to the American public after the mess they helped create in Iraq. A trillion dollars down the drain, thousands of needless deaths and American power and prestige shattered. An unmitigated debacle that will haunt our country for a very long time. Both of these men showed profoundly bad judgment in enabling "Bush's Folly" and should never hold any public office in this country again.

Neither of them have the character to admit they were wrong, even after all the lies and deceit have been made public. That is the issue. Obama, to his credit, unequivocaly called both of them out on this and their response is to say he "lacks the judgment" to be President? Look in the mirror John and Joe. You both are responsible for the biggest foreign policy debacle in our nation's history. That is the reality of what your combined "experience and judgment" has brought us.

Posted by: sls642 | September 3, 2008 11:34 AM | Report abuse

Lieberman is an agent of the Israeli government, plain and simple.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 3, 2008 11:29 AM | Report abuse

I suppose the Democrats needed Lieberman to caucus with them to be the (slim) majority party in the senate after the 2006 elections.

There should be enough Democratic senators to have a majority after the 2008 elections (although probably not enough to stop a Republican filibuster - with or without Lieberman)

It's time to cut him loose. Let him caucus with the Republicans - or caucus with his very own "Self-Righteous" party.

Posted by: mac | September 3, 2008 11:08 AM | Report abuse

Loserman's days are numbered. It was bad enough playing McShame's lap dog but he has crossed the line. Come January he will be off his committee and will join the party that he has always been with at heart.

After this GOP reach around is done and the Palin dirt continues to be the focus of the MSM, McShame's shameless choice, after having his pick Loserman shot down by the Rove brigade, will bow out and Pawlenty or Romney will step in. Of course Palin will say it's to support her daughter and family, and you GOP trolls will lap it up.

Posted by: patrick nyc | September 3, 2008 10:58 AM | Report abuse

I know at the back of your mind, you're thinking i'm white. You know, i'm black. As black as they can be... in color. I hate groupthink. Since i don't subscribe to your lazy ideologies, i'm a pariah in your clime. Good with me.

Posted by: kem | September 3, 2008 10:58 AM | Report abuse

have you seen that Todd Palin was registered with the secession party.

seems they did a really good job vetting this candidate...not.

No more buffoons in the white house...

Mccain drives in with his strong choices...that have no substance or backing...but look how strong he is whether it is a horrifically dumb choice or not...

kind of like when he pushed for us to go to Iraq.

ugh

Posted by: Anonymous | September 3, 2008 10:56 AM | Report abuse

kem

white guy here...

and I think your statement is just another reason why Obama needs to be President and the right wing... has people like you that we need to get out of government...and away from our children ugh

Posted by: Anonymous | September 3, 2008 10:52 AM | Report abuse

Given Lieberman's voting record it is clear that his McCain endorsement is driven by only one issue: Protecting Israel.

His misrepresentation of Obama's record is a sad thing. For 6 years he was my Senator but I doubt that the people of Connecticut would re-elect him; and sorry I'm not still there to vote AGAINST HIM.

Posted by: Matt Mixon | September 3, 2008 10:49 AM | Report abuse

Anonymous, i'm sure you're on welfare, hence your ardent support for obama bin hussein barack. If you're black, "it's your turn to rule". America is going to collapse like zimbabwe if obama is elected. Anyway, your welfare check will keep coming. Kudos.

Posted by: kem | September 3, 2008 10:46 AM | Report abuse

Leave Lieberman alone, you nut heads. I am a democrat but i will never vote for obama bin barack. The guy is a covert muslim. I know this because i'm from Africa. This so called liberal whites supporting him are going to wake up and scratch their heads "what have we just done?". You will be jobless.

Posted by: KEM | September 3, 2008 9:52 AM
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You need to upgrade to top shelf liquor, the cheap stuff is having a dramatic impact on the part of your brain responsible for reality perception.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 3, 2008 10:41 AM | Report abuse

kem you are an idiot, supporting McShame is no surprise.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 3, 2008 10:40 AM | Report abuse

>> Karen wrote: "Now, the low-life dems have stolen and published the social security and home number of Sarah Palin. Let's face it, the bottom dwelling democrats are scum."

This is the new netroots Democrats: sociopathic groupthink hating left-wing ideologues who are so scary they make right-wing fascists look tame.

You should see some of the stuff they have on their "hidden" threads like on DailyKos. They want to kill Republicans, and use dehumanizing, animal language to talk about them. They have death threats, rants etc. The netroots are definitely a hotbed of misogynism, anti-white, anti-establishment, anti-semitic sociopathic haters.

Rev. Wright is right at home with them. Black liberation theology and the racial grievance mentality is a subconscious stream of consciousness with them, all under the surface, of course.

They will literally say that they want "Repug" "trolls", who they view as evil animals to die.

I wonder if the FBI has plants monitoring their "hidden" threads and reading their conspiracy theories and plots.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 3, 2008 10:40 AM | Report abuse

If Obama wins the election, then you would have 2 first ladies.....one in the U.S and the other in Africa. As a muslim and an Africa, Obama is entitled to more than one wife. His Luo tribe has already made plans for his African first-lady. Now, that will be a history.

Posted by: kem | September 3, 2008 10:36 AM | Report abuse

His speech to the REPUBLICAN National Convention is more than enough reason to strip him of his chairmanship and boot his disloyal arse from the caucus. I don't care what the cost. It's not like our "majority" in the senate can get anything done, anyway--and by January we won't need his stinkin' vote.

http://soonerthought.blogspot.com/2008/09/democrats-time-to-ditch-lieberman.html

Posted by: Soonerthought.blogspot.com | September 3, 2008 10:34 AM | Report abuse

Thank you AsperGirl, this fellow is narrow minded. I'm not going to argue the facts with the fellow. Yes, i'm a democrat by registration but i vote mostly Republican. I vote issues and candidates, not party. In the black community, you're considered a tom if didn't vote for Obama. They say it's their "turn" to rule America. Well, i need a good ruler, and i see it in Mcain.

Posted by: kem | September 3, 2008 10:27 AM | Report abuse

Now, the low-life dems have stolen and published the social security and home number of Sarah Palin. Let's face it, the bottom dwelling democrats are scum.

Posted by: Karen | September 3, 2008 10:25 AM | Report abuse

>>Lieberman's reelection after his party had nominated someone else speaks volumes about the trust he holds with his constituents.<<

Get a clue. Democratic VOTERS nominated Lamont. He was not whisked in by party officials or anyone else. Lieberman was elected by Republicans when they realized that their candidate had no chance and accepted Lieberman as the lesser of 2 evils. Joe Lieberman is a Democrat in name only and his only agenda is to rattle America's saber in the Middle East.

Posted by: WTF? | September 3, 2008 10:25 AM | Report abuse

It's a good thing that the europeans aren't voting in our election... only their socialist, environmentalist, peacenik cousins.

Posted by: Bill | September 3, 2008 10:25 AM | Report abuse

lieberman's primary loyalty is to israel, not america.

Posted by: dick cabesa | September 3, 2008 10:23 AM | Report abuse

Heehee. I guess we dont have to listen to Newt lecturing the welfare mothers about how to live their sex lives. Or that care of the children come before career. All that's OK now as long as you're a gun toting, creationist pro-life secessionist.

Europeans have a name for someone like our Sarah - she is a fascist.

Posted by: toritto | September 3, 2008 10:21 AM | Report abuse

Maverick - isn't that a brand of budget cigarettes? Isn't Lieberman this year's Zell Miller?

Posted by: Loonesta | September 3, 2008 10:19 AM | Report abuse

>>Anonymous wrote: "KEM You started the whole thing by saying that you are a Democrat and that you are from Africa. I don't know you, but it sounds like both of those things are lies. The below anonymous comment is also from me."

You're being prosecutorial and attacking. IN another post you call him a moron. What right do you have to attack this guy who says he's from Africa?

Because he doesn't conform to your ghetto notion of what an African's political sentiments should be (in line with yours)?

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 3, 2008 10:19 AM | Report abuse

Osama Bin Laden and Barack Hussein Obama are both Muslim names. How is this a smear?

Posted by: Bill | September 3, 2008 10:18 AM | Report abuse

I'm a Kikuyi, if you care to know. If you lie about your faith, you can lie about anything in this world. I'm a non practcing christian, and that's my faith. Obama is from a muslim family in Kenya but he is running away from that fact. Obama was a drug addict and a wife cheater. He is not my kind of guy, you sucker.

Posted by: kem | September 3, 2008 10:18 AM | Report abuse

KEM You started the whole thing by saying that you are a Democrat and that you are from Africa. I don't know you, but it sounds like both of those things are lies. The below anonymous comment is also from me.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 3, 2008 10:14 AM | Report abuse

AFRICA IS A CONTINENT!! Besides Antarticans and Australians who says that they are from a CONTINENT. No one. And sorry but I don't think anyone should have to vote the color of their skin. I could care less but you want to talk about intellectual voids. The muslim smears and likening him to Osama Bin Ladin is really stupid. You sound like a moron.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 3, 2008 10:11 AM | Report abuse

The Democratic party has become a cesspool of misogynistic, patronizing, power-woman-bashers and anti-semites.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 3, 2008 10:10 AM | Report abuse

Lieberman is just another Judas.

Posted by: lclon | September 3, 2008 10:06 AM | Report abuse

Well Jamie C, i'm a proud African. I love America but that doesn't mean i should forget where i came from. You have a narrow mind and, i think you are intellectually deficient. I don't have to vote Obama because i'm black. I don't believe in dems agendas. They are so backward.

Posted by: kem | September 3, 2008 10:05 AM | Report abuse

When the votes are counted, i see some disappointed dems babbling racism. Who says black people are not racist. Bill Clinton was called a racist after he challenged Obama. More than 90% of black people voted Obama. Leave white people alone, please. (For disclaimer, i am black)

Posted by: kem | September 3, 2008 10:01 AM | Report abuse

KEM, what African person says that they are from Africa? That would be like Japanese people saying that they are Asian or Peruvian people saying they are from South America. If you are going to lie at least sound convincing. You know how I know that? I am from North America, dummy or better yet I am from the Western Hemisphere. Your propaganda train with the stupid names is such a coward's move.

Posted by: Jamie C | September 3, 2008 10:00 AM | Report abuse

But you sound stupid and spoiled when you criticize others using their vote for purposes that don't include playing your game.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 3, 2008 9:50 AM
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You are such a hypocrit AsperGirl. You should read your own statement then try to live by it.

Posted by: Aspergirl Uncovered | September 3, 2008 9:58 AM | Report abuse

Well the only thing that they can do is use character assassination tactics. They haven't said anything about fixing the economy. What is their plan for that? What is their plan for the housing crisis, education, social security, insurance, jobs, gas prices, global warming and all those things...that's what people care about. Republicans are still preaching 911 and the war on terror. Joe Lieberman is nothing but a scum bag...they keep talking about how everybody should worship McCain because he's some kind of war hero and Vietnam vet....but if you remember in the 2004 election, the republicans dissed John Kerry because he was a vietnam veteran. How hypocritic is that? Lieberman keeps saying that John McCain is his Own Man and a maverick.....but if that's true, then why didn't McCain choose Lieberman for VP since he was the one that McCain really wanted. He chose Palin because he was being pressured by Rush Limbaugh, Shawn Hannity and the rest of the far right....Doesn't sound much like a maverick to me. More like a desperate old man. All you have to do is look at the crowd at the republican convention and it tells you what they're all about...no diversity at all. Where are the blacks, asians, hispanics. All I see is a crowd full of self-righteous zealots...

Posted by: Brian | September 3, 2008 9:56 AM | Report abuse

Just like Zell Miller, Lieberman speaks the truth. What happens to Dems that put America ahead of thier party? They are tarred and feathered in effigy by the craven, Marxist shills pretending to be enlightened Dems. If the Dems don't want Lieberman, the Repubs should accept him with open arms.

Posted by: Bill | September 3, 2008 9:55 AM | Report abuse

you can't handle the truth

Watch for the psycho moonbats to emerge in full disfunctional mode today. they realize that the truth is emerging about their candidate and their party. they will resort to slander, personal attacks, innuendo, gossip, conspiracy and lies.

the realization that Palin offers more than their lead candidate is just too much to take. Never mind Mccain. the NYTimes and MSDNC are going into full bunker mode. don't expect any facts from them for quite some time. the smear machine is gearing up for business.

does anyone wonder why the approval and trust of the MSM is almost as low as the Dem congress these days. better to ask a trial lawyer or a used car salesman.

Posted by: to the Libs | September 3, 2008 9:54 AM | Report abuse

Leave Lieberman alone, you nut heads. I am a democrat but i will never vote for obama bin barack. The guy is a covert muslim. I know this because i'm from Africa. This so called liberal whites supporting him are going to wake up and scratch their heads "what have we just done?". You will be jobless.

Posted by: KEM | September 3, 2008 9:52 AM | Report abuse

>> choctaws wrote: "Palin makes it possible for the racist, and there are a lot of them, to be a racisit and still make history by voting in a woman."

So, it's not "racism" to vote against a white candidate, and for a black candidate, if you view your racially motivated vote as an opportunity to "make history by voting in a [black]"?

You can use your vote for whatever purpose you want, including fulfilling your racial identity politics narcissistic dreams.

But you sound stupid and spoiled when you criticize others using their vote for purposes that don't include playing your game.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 3, 2008 9:50 AM | Report abuse

Lieberman wouldn't be in the Senate if Connecticut had a sore loser law like some states do. He is a disgrace.

Posted by: ejgallagher1 | September 3, 2008 9:49 AM | Report abuse

Lieberman's speech was filled with lies and hypocrisy. Lieberman voted 90+% with Obama on the issues, even on this charge that Obama "did not vote for funding our troops on the battlefield". He lied about Obama not achieving anything in the Senate.

Even more disturbing was Lieberman's embrace of the McCain/Palin ticket. Lieberman has met Palin once and that was yesterday. Then when Lieberman was interviewed by NBC's Andrea Mitchell on Palin being ready to be Commander-n-Chief should McCain be unable to serve, Lieberman chuckled and stumbled through some crap about supporting McCain. WTF?!?!

The hypocrisy was overwhelming.

Posted by: Obama-Junkie | September 3, 2008 9:45 AM | Report abuse

Sen. Lieberman looks like a drooling devoted dog waiting for a pat on the head, saying "good boy" & be rewarded with a treat. He missed the first treat (vice presidency)... waiting for the next one- a cabinet post if McCain wins.
His whining tone annoys me & his smile makes me gag. It did even in 2000.

Posted by: Saroja | September 3, 2008 9:45 AM | Report abuse

Aspergirl, you really are giving me the laughs I need today.

">>DB wrote: "Geez... again, Aspergirl, learn to read. Learn something about the subjects you're trying to discuss. You're just embarrassing yourself with how little you know and how loudly you admit it."

"DB, go hang out at DailyKos for a while. Oh, I forgot, you're one of those loony haters and liars from that cesspool of propaganda and hate speech."

LOL! You have no idea. Seriously, you think that DailyKos speaks for Obama? You're like all those Republican smear-mongers who seize on the most extreme position and tout that as the Democratic mainstream.
Get a life, Aspergirl. It should be clear even to you that nobody here takes you seriously.
your bud,
DB

Posted by: DB | September 3, 2008 9:44 AM | Report abuse

The problem isn't that Lieberman voted to authorize the war back in 2003. The problem is that in 2006 he continued to support the war. In 2006, Lieberman said the invasion of Iraq was the right thing to do, and that no troops should be withdrawn. He had exactly the same position on the war as President Bush.

Biden voted for the war originally, but he opposed it in 2006. Same with Kerry, Hillary Clinton, and the other Senate Democrats. Lieberman was the one Democrat who fully endorsed the Republican position on the war, so he was challenged in a primary. That's democracy. His religion had nothing to do with it.

Posted by: Blarg | September 3, 2008 9:43 AM | Report abuse

To Aspergirl again-
Sorry, you are right about one thing. The Democratic majority in the Senate will no longer allow Joe Lieberman to caucus with them come January. He could be excused some disloyalty to the party (he has some justification), but he is now working for the political opposition.
That is not an Israel right-or-wrong issue; that's a fact of political life. You don't provide chairmanships to a political opponent.
Joe Lieberman WILL be stripped of his perks and privileges, and it cannot come soon enough.
Now... you were saying about Israel and how much the Democrats hate our best Middle Eastern ally...?

Posted by: DB | September 3, 2008 9:41 AM | Report abuse

Joe Lieberman spoke for the GOP becuase he is Mccain's friend. and its fine that theya re friends. Lieberman supports the war in Iraq because he is the local resident member of the Israeli parliament. He thinks of Israel first, and America last, and thats where I really do deeply fault him. I really do feel for the Israeli's that have suffered so badly under the hawkish Israeli leadership, but they won't be able to push those leaders out until the likes of Lieberman stop expecting US taxpayers to foot their war efforts.

Becuase of Lieberman, everytime I see a Jewish American running for office, I find myself asking - is he/she an American? or is he/she an Israeli? Becuase running for an American Office, you are expected to put the US first. I don;t like having to ask that question, and I will never forgive Lieberman for putting me in that position.

Posted by: TortFeezer | September 3, 2008 9:39 AM | Report abuse

Lieberman is done within the Democratic party. To hear the Republican delegates clapping and cheering for Lieberman as attacked his fellow Democrat (Obama) was sad. Obama campaigned for Lieberman in 2006 as did Bill Clinton.

Lieberman is done within the Democratic Party. He better hope Obama and Congressional Democrats don't win in November because he will be stripped of his Democratic status and the Republicans won't embrace him. It will be him and Ron Paul eating lunch together alone, Ron with his meat loaf and Joe with his Kosher chicken sandwich.

Posted by: Obama-Junkie | September 3, 2008 9:38 AM | Report abuse

If there's one thing we can't have, it's a Democrat telling the truth. Everytime the truth gets out, my poll numbers sink.

Posted by: snObama | September 3, 2008 9:38 AM | Report abuse

>>DB wrote: "Geez... again, Aspergirl, learn to read. Learn something about the subjects you're trying to discuss. You're just embarrassing yourself with how little you know and how loudly you admit it."

DB, go hang out at DailyKos for a while. Oh, I forgot, you're one of those loony haters and liars from that cesspool of propaganda and hate speech.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 3, 2008 9:38 AM | Report abuse

wow palin who knew

Palin makes it possible for the racist, and there are a lot of them, to be a racisit and still make history by voting in a woman.

This is exactly what the Mccain backroomers are counting on

Posted by: choctaws | September 3, 2008 9:36 AM | Report abuse

>>DB wrote: "Joe's not just excommunicated, he'll be a pariah when (if) he returns to the Senate this year. Don't be surprised if Harry Reid bites the bullet and strips him of his seniority and chairmanships."

Don't make it sound like this is a new plan. He's been told he's out as soon as he's not needed for a majority anymore for months now.

Shall I go to DailyKos and cut and paste the anti-semitic plotting and hate speech here? (Actually, I won't. The sociopathic groupthink of that place is unhealthy and ill.)

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 3, 2008 9:36 AM | Report abuse

Aspergirl (that perennial wackjob and wingnut) says:
"The activist anti-semites are coming into power.

"After this election, if there is a clear Democratic majority, the netroots who forced Lieberman out of the Democratic party in the past senate race, so that he ran and won as an Independent, will try to have him stripped of his jobs in the senate and isolated and marginalized.

"And, as they envision it, their candidate, Barack Obama will put an end to the pro-Israel activism of the U.S. while they target and remove those prominent Jews who stand in his way."

Paranoid much?
Geez... again, Aspergirl, learn to read. Learn something about the subjects you're trying to discuss. You're just embarrassing yourself with how little you know and how loudly you admit it.
your pal always,
DB

Posted by: DB | September 3, 2008 9:35 AM | Report abuse

Blarg, then why not remove all of the other Democratic senators who supported the Iraq War? There were few who opposed it. Joe Biden was an architect of the senate resolution authorizing it.

But then Biden isn't a pro-Israel Jew. Look at the hate on this board.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 3, 2008 9:33 AM | Report abuse

Anonymous says:
"He will be excommunicated in January. The Democrats will not get 59 or 60 seats in the Senate and will likely stall out at 57 or 58. Lieberman's vote is unnecessary at that point. He will be stripped of his committee chairmanship and clout.

"And every Democratic donor will be more than happy to fund Ned Lamont for round 2 in 2012."

Hear hear.
Joe's not just excommunicated, he'll be a pariah when (if) he returns to the Senate this year. Don't be surprised if Harry Reid bites the bullet and strips him of his seniority and chairmanships.
That's the only way to truly repay this Benedict Arnold.

Posted by: DB | September 3, 2008 9:32 AM | Report abuse

"Since you are so wise, why don't you call up Lieberman and ask him why the netroots targeted him for removal from his senate seat and forced him out of the Democratic party. Was it because he has funny hair? What's your explanation, genius?"

Because he supported the war in Iraq. Lieberman disagreed with the Democratic Party on the single biggest issue of the day, and instead supported the Republican position. So Democratic voters decided that he should no longer represent their party in Congress. It's just that simple.

Posted by: Blarg | September 3, 2008 9:22 AM | Report abuse

mchasin, here's a shorter version for you:

WHAT THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA WON'T TELL YOU ABOUT WHY LIEBERMAN IS INDEPENDENT NOW (NETROOTS ANTISEMITISM)

The "netroots", or internet grass roots activists that have taken over the liberal blogs and that now effectively form the left wing of the media and the extreme left wing of the Democratic party voice, are anti-semitic.

They believe that all of our Middle East problems are caused by America being dominated by Jews in key positions who lead us into disastrous confrontations with Arab Muslims.

They keep this under wraps as much as possible, especially on their public websites like DailyKos, but the hatred of Jews and the belief that our Middle East problems (and all Middle East problems) are caused by Jews is part of their vision for America.

The netroots did a bold thing a while back. They wanted to eliminate Lieberman, a prominent pro-Israel Jew, from his senate seat, and so they organized and supported a challenge to Lieberman in his home district. Lieberman, a senior senator who was on the 2000 ticket with Gore as VP candidate, lost his primary but then ran as an Independent. He beat the Democratic challenger, and kept his senate seat at an Independent.

But the netroots are still laying for him, saying that he's needed now because he gives the Democrats their 51-49 majority because he's chosen to caucus with the Democrats, but as soon as there are more Democrats elected to the senate this year, and Lieberman isn't needed anymore, they intend to make a concerted effort to remove him from his committees and other authority. So even if LIeberman keeps his senate seat as an Independent, he will be isolated and marginalized by the anti-semites.

Last night at the RNC, there was an historic speech in which a Democrat who had run on its national ticket was addressing the RNC and endorsing a Republican candidate and ticket. The netroots and the daily-more-extremist left wing of the Democratic party really pushed him out there with their quiet but systematic anti-semitic, anti-Israel agenda.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 3, 2008 9:17 AM | Report abuse

Joe We got some Change You don't want to believe in. Pack your hat, your coat and we will kick you a@@ in the street. you scumb bag.

Posted by: Orlando1 | September 3, 2008 9:16 AM | Report abuse

Why isn't anybody talking about how EVERYBODY in the Republican party were OLD WHITE PEOPLE???? Every time the camera panned over the audience, I was just stunned. Compare what the Republican convention looks like to the Democratic convention!

When Howard Dean called the Republican party "The party of white people", I thought he crossed the line. Now I realize, damn, he was speaking the truth!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 3, 2008 9:15 AM | Report abuse

"How will they respond?"

Allow me to be the first to point out the obvious: by kicking his a$$ off any important committees after Obama wins in November.

Posted by: J | September 3, 2008 9:07 AM | Report abuse

There really ought to be a rule here that a comment cannot exceed the length of the article itself. Aspergirl's use of bandwidth is a bit over the top.

I know, I know, no one has to read it, and I don't; however, if one cannot state an opinion succinctly, she (or he) might want to learn to do so. It's much more effective in getting serious attention and presenting a case worthy of debate.

And by the way, my opinion of Lieberman is that he's one more political narcissist. His religion shouldn't even be an issue, but he has made it one, and sadly, he does have a pulpit from which to preach disinformation.

Posted by: mchasin | September 3, 2008 9:06 AM | Report abuse

This is what it sounded like to me....lemme clear my throat:

I am an idiot....Blah blah blah....I am a liar...Blah blah blah...which country first?....blah blah blah....Israel RULES!...blah blah blah...Im a democrat.

Posted by: Becky | September 3, 2008 9:03 AM | Report abuse

>>MJ wrote: "As an American Jewish guy, I am disgusted and INSULTED that someone would sit here and post that netroots liberals are anti-semites. GROW UP and stop trying to divide us into sub groups. I am a proud liberal who voted for Debbie Wasserman Schultz who is also a liberal Jew."

Since you are so wise, why don't you call up Lieberman and ask him why the netroots targeted him for removal from his senate seat and forced him out of the Democratic party. Was it because he has funny hair? What's your explanation, genius?

Are you completely unaware of some of the rhetoric of the netroots around you?

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 3, 2008 8:53 AM | Report abuse

>>MJ wrote: "As an American Jewish guy, I am disgusted and INSULTED that someone would sit here and post that netroots liberals are anti-semites. GROW UP and stop trying to divide us into sub groups. I am a proud liberal who voted for Debbie Wasserman Schultz who is also a liberal Jew."

Great. Good for you. You should open your ears and hear what some of your netroots pals are really all about.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 3, 2008 8:51 AM | Report abuse

The activist anti-semites are coming into power.

After this election, if there is a clear Democratic majority, the netroots who forced Lieberman out of the Democratic party in the past senate race, so that he ran and won as an Independent, will try to have him stripped of his jobs in the senate and isolated and marginalized.

And, as they envision it, their candidate, Barack Obama will put an end to the pro-Israel activism of the U.S. while they target and remove those prominent Jews who stand in his way.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 3, 2008 8:49 AM | Report abuse

As an American Jewish guy, I am disgusted and INSULTED that someone would sit here and post that netroots liberals are anti-semites. GROW UP and stop trying to divide us into sub groups. I am a proud liberal who voted for Debbie Wasserman Schultz who is also a liberal Jew.

GROW THE HECK UP Aspergirl and get a life!

Posted by: MJ | September 3, 2008 8:44 AM | Report abuse

"I take offense at those who suggest that, in backing the Iraq War, Joe was doing what Israel wants. How can you stretch it so that a war in a country that was not aggressive to Israel that created more turmoil and more of an unsafe situation in the middle East was anywhere good for Israel?

Posted by: Remus (infidelsshiver) | September 3, 2008 7:03 AM "

Remus, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and figure that you're only in your early 20s or so. You suggest that a Saddam-ruled Iraq was not threatening to Israel?

During the first gulf war, as the US started to kick Iraqi troops from Kuwait, Saddam began to launch his Scuds at Tel Aviv. He also paid terrorists/suicide bombers a $25k bounty to their families, when they killed Israelis.

Perhaps you'd like to revise and extend your remarks, about Saddam not being aggressive towards Israel?

Posted by: JD | September 3, 2008 8:41 AM | Report abuse

To paraphrase McCain himself, I guess Lieberman thinks it's more important to win a war than lose an election.

If he truly believes that the Iraq conflict must be seen out to completion, and he believes it's the most important issue of our time, then he's taken the honorable path.

How can anyone not respect him for that?

Posted by: JD | September 3, 2008 8:35 AM | Report abuse

Lieberman needs to learn to wipe his arse before giving speeches out of it.

Posted by: Lieberarse | September 3, 2008 8:31 AM | Report abuse

WHAT THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA WON'T TELL YOU ABOUT WHY LIEBERMAN IS INDEPENDENT NOW (NETROOTS ANTISEMITISM)

The "netroots", or internet grass roots activists that have taken over the liberal blogs and that now effectively form the left wing of the media and the extreme left wing of the Democratic party voice, are anti-semitic.

They believe that all of our Middle East problems are caused by America being dominated by Jews in key positions and who leads us into disastrous confrontations with Arab Muslims.

They keep this under wraps as much as possible, especially on their public websites like DailyKos, but the hatred of Jews and the belief that our Middle East problems (and all Middle East problems) are caused by Jews is part of their vision for America.

The netroots did a bold thing a while back. They wanted to eliminate Lieberman, a prominent pro-Israel Jew, from his senate seat, and so they organized and supported a challenge to Lieberman in his home district. Lieberman, a senior senator who was on the 2000 ticket with Gore as VP candidate, lost his primary but then ran as an Independent. He beat the Democratic challenger, and kept his senate seat at an Independent.

But the netroots are still laying for him, saying that he's needed now because he gives the Democrats their 51-49 majority because he's chosen to caucus with the Democrats, but as soon as the next election where there are more Democrats and Lieberman isn't needed anymore, there will be a concerted effort to remove him from his committees and other authority. So even if LIeberman keeps his senate seat as an Independent, he will be isolated and marginalized by the anti-semites.

The netroots love Obama. He's left wing for a lot of reason but mostly his anti-semitic ties are consistent with the netroots views that our connection to Israel is causing our terrorist and Middle East problems. Barack Obama's Trinity Church and Rev. Wright were anti-Israel and anti-semitic.

One vein of his pastor, Rev. Wright's, political activist teachings, is how "Zionists" and the United States are conspiring to oppress Muslims, Arabs and Africans. His pastor published a Hamas manifesto in the Trinity Church newsletter, which called for activists to "unite" in an "armed struggle" against "oppressors" United States and Israel.

Image of scan of Trinity Church newsletter with Hamas manifesto
((http://www.bizzyblog.com/wp-images/TUCChamasColumn072207.jpg)

In a rant in one recorded sermon, Rev. Wright listed U.S. support of Israel in a litany evils that the U.S. engages in, and declares that anyone who criticizes it is accused of anti=semitism (a familiar complaint of Muslims).

Rev. Wright litany of U.S. evils sermon
(list starts at 20 seconds and reference to Israel at 1:30 mins)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfNEfEBYIZs

Earlier this year, both Hamas and Louis Farrakhan, Nation of Islam leader, endorsed Obama's candidacy for U.S. president.

Barack Obama has tried in the past three months to reverse his anti-Israel and pro-Arab rhetoric, and has made strenuous efforts to outreach to Jews since Florida may depend on the Jewish vote. On DailyKos and other left-wing blogs the anti-semitic talk is now under-wraps in this election year. But anti-semitism is definitely a core feature of the new left-wing agenda of the netroots, and part of Barack Obama's appeal to them. Apparently they have considerable support because of the amount of money that has appeared out of nowhere to support the netroots and their activism.

Last night at the RNC, there was an historic speech in which a Democrat who had run on its national ticket was addressing the RNC and endorsing a Republican candidate and ticket. The netroots and the daily-more-extremist left wing of the Democratic party really pushed him out there with their quiet but systematic anti-semitic, anti-Israeil agenda.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 3, 2008 8:19 AM | Report abuse

When McCain says Country First, does he mean Israel or America? Why not "America First"? Lieberman speaking promimently at the RNC makes me wonder. You know, some American's don't see a difference between American interest and Israeli interest. So perhaps "Country" to McCain could mean either America or Israel, they may be interchangable to him.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 3, 2008 7:59 AM | Report abuse

>>Andreas wrote: "How appropriate that Likudite Israeli-firster Lieberman is speaking at the Republican convention, now that the Republican Party is a junior member of the Likud Party"

The above post more or less encapsulates what is, in the case of Lieberman, the netroots problem. The "netroots", or internet grass roots activists that has taken over the liberal blogs and that now effectively forms the left wing of the media and the extreme left wing of the Democratic party voice, is anti-semitic.

They believe that all of our Middle East problems are caused by America being dominated by Jews in key positions and who leads us into disastrous confrontations with Arab Muslims.

They keep this under wraps as much as possible, especially on their public websites like DailyKos, but the hatred of Jews and the belief that our Middle East problems (and all Middle East problems) are caused by Jews is part of their vision for America.

The netroots did the unthinkable a while back. They wanted to remove Lieberman from his senate seat, and organized and supported a challenge to Lieberman in his home district. This very senior senator who was on the 2000 ticket with Gore as VP candidate, lost his primary and then ran as an Independent. He beat the Democratic challenger, and kept his senate seat at an Independent, but the netroots are still laying for him.

The netroots are saying that he's needed now because he gives the Democrats their 51-49 majority because he's chosen to caucus with the Democrats, but as soon as the next election where there are more Democrats and Lieberman isn't needed anymore, there will be a concerted effort to remove him from his committees and other authority. So even if LIeberman keeps his senate seat as an Independent, he will be isolated and marginalized by the anti-semites.

The netroots picked Obama because he's left wing for a lot of reason but mostly because of his anti-semitic ties. Hamas has endorsed him, for example. One vein of his pastor, Rev. Wright's, political activist teachings, is how "Zionists" and the United States are conspiring to oppress Muslims, Arabs and Africans. His pastor published a Hamas manifesto in the Trinity Church newsletter, which called for activists to "unite" in an "armed struggle" against "oppressors" United States and Israel.

Image of scan of Trinity Church newsletter with Hamas manifesto
((http://www.bizzyblog.com/wp-images/TUCChamasColumn072207.jpg)

In a rant in a sermon, for example, Rev. Wright listed U.S. support of Israel in a litany evils that the U.S. engages in, and declares that anyone who criticizes it is accused of anti=semitism (a familiar complaint of Muslims).

Rev. Wright litany of U.S. evils sermon
(list starts at 20 seconds and reference to Israel at 1:30 mins)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfNEfEBYIZs

Barack Obama has scrambled in the past three months to reverse his anti-Israel and pro-Arab rhetoric, and has made strenuous efforts to outreach to Jews since Florida may depend on the Jewish vote, and the anti-semitic rhetoric is heavily masked and off-limits on DailyKos and other left-wing blogs this election year. But anti-semitism is definitely a core feature of the left-wing agenda of the netroots, and Barack Obama's appeal to them. Apparently they have considerable support because of the amount of money that has appeared out of nowhere to support the netroots and their efforts.

The netroots and their anti-Israel agenda caused the Lieberman problem. By taking on a senior senator and former VP candidate and forcing him out of the Democratic party to get rid of the prominent, hawkish Jew, they have simply put a powerful Democrat into play. It would not surprise me if LIeberman caucuses with the Republicans next year, particularly since he's being told he's going to be marginalized as soon as more Democratic senators get elected and he's not needed for a majority anymore.

Last night at the RNC, there was an historic speech in which a Democrat on the national ticket was addressing the RNC and endorsing a Republican candidate. The netroots and the daily-more-extremist left wing of the Democratic party really pushed him out there.

Frankly, I'm not unwilling to follow him. John McCain is a more experienced, better candidate with extraordinary character and principles and independence-minded governance approaches. I'm more willing to follow Lieberman to his support of John McCain than to follow the netroots in their closet anti-semitic agenda and their under-qualified and mysterious candidate, Barack Obama.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 3, 2008 7:56 AM | Report abuse

With a stronger Democrat majority in the Senate come January, the party will have no need for Lieberman..... Bye-bye Joe

Posted by: RickJ | September 3, 2008 7:54 AM | Report abuse

Love, LOVE the virulent anti-semitism on this comments page directed at Lieberman by the looney-left. Just reinforces my feelings about where the Democratic party has now gone off the rails in rejecting Clinton.

Posted by: Amused | September 3, 2008 7:16 AM
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Put a sock in it, to be pro-American is not to be Anti-Semite, it is to be Pro-American. That stupid arguement you present died many years ago. American's have a patriotic right to speak out against Israel, without being Anti-Semitic, when what they do is contrary to American interests.

It is not an assault on their "religion". You'd call Jesus an antisemite, because, believe it or not, it was HE who said to those before him, himself a Jew, that you "are of the synagogue of Satan", thus saying, that all "professed" Jews are not of Abraham, but just carried the "title". So too are many "professed" Jews of today. On the mainland and abroad.

AMERICA First, not Israel!!!!!!

Posted by: Ward6ForNow | September 3, 2008 7:52 AM | Report abuse

Hey Harry, pull the plug! "Quisling" Lieberman's over the top.

Posted by: You're a Yutz Joe | September 3, 2008 7:50 AM | Report abuse

When will Harry Reed have the guts to sever all Party ties with the despicable fraud Lieberman? He is a nauseating creep with his head stuffed up McBush's butt. The people of Connecticut had the chance to rid the nation of this toxic waste and sadly failed to do so.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 3, 2008 7:38 AM | Report abuse

Love, LOVE the virulent anti-semitism on this comments page directed at Lieberman by the looney-left. Just reinforces my feelings about where the Democratic party has now gone off the rails in rejecting Clinton.

Posted by: Amused | September 3, 2008 7:16 AM | Report abuse

In Lieberman's eyes, Obama's greatest failing is that he is not enough of a warmonger. Joe's fear is that Obama would not support Israel's pre-emptive strikes on Iran or Syria or whichever country was the threat of the month. Israel is going to be the catalyst for the next major war in the region and Joe Lieberman will be right there cheering them on. He is an Israeli hack and the Dems will deal with him when they have a real majority in the Senate. Country first Joe,? but which country?

Posted by: DCPhoenix | September 3, 2008 7:03 AM | Report abuse

I take offense at those who suggest that, in backing the Iraq War, Joe was doing what Israel wants. How can you stretch it so that a war in a country that was not aggressive to Israel that created more turmoil and more of an unsafe situation in the middle East was anywhere good for Israel?

Lieberman isn't an Israeli agent. He's a Democrat, but with Republican views on Foreign Policy that have emerged recently. It's a real shame, because I remember being electrified by the Lieberman of yore and his brilliant speech at the DNC 8 years ago.

Posted by: Remus (infidelsshiver) | September 3, 2008 7:03 AM | Report abuse

Joe Quisling's Judas Kiss speech last night really is the final straw.
The fact that Lieberman supports the cold-blooded murder of the Iraqi people isn't the half of it. It's HOW he has so arrogantly gone about it.
From pushing himself forward as part of a Democratic delegation to the White House to refute and smear hapless Democrats in order to suport the invasion of Iraq to his smarmy, oozing performance at the Fascists convention last night urging Democrats to vote for the MAVERICK and the party of lies and cheats and ten billion dollar a month occupations of sovereign countries.
Oh, this Quisling would love to have a continuation of the Bush Regime's foreign policy and continue its war against the Middle East.
Lieberman wants the U.S. to completely dominate through occupations and punishing intimidation the whole of the Middle East.
As much as I hate war, I would go to all-out war against this man and his sheltered bubble where he doesn't have to face the consequences of his vile conduct.
This man is a traitor for all seasons.
That the Democratic Party is so weak, that it won't draw the line and in the process show some integrity and character of it's own and publicly denounce Joe Quisling is a black mark on its collective character.
He should simply be sued for continuing to refer to himself as a Democrat.

Posted by: Amanda Greene | September 3, 2008 6:49 AM | Report abuse

Joe Lieberman represents Israeli interests not U.S. Interests. His support for the war was from the perspective of an israeli hardliner sympathy not for those of the U.S. troops that were to be put in harms way. He stands proudly behind the war, even after learning that it germenated from fabricated intelligence from the Bush White House pushed forward as truth to the American People and Congress. He has never ONCE lambasted President Bush for this dishonesty that has costed the lives of thousands of young men and women in the U.S. Armed Services.

He is no American hero, he is an Israeli commando in a business suit.

Posted by: Ward6ForNow | September 3, 2008 6:41 AM | Report abuse

Kinda sad to see Leiberman to turn colors and run. He knows his days are numbered as a Dem and is running to the otherside looking for a friend. By the end of the year, he'll be used, abused and spit out.

Posted by: tphishs | September 3, 2008 6:38 AM | Report abuse

OBAMA CHAMELEON’S TERROR KISS

-~America is great~-
-~We can change it~-
www.barackobama.comeleon

By selecting Joe Biden, Obama implicitly acknowledges that, in fact, the “Hopeful Barack Obama” (himself with his background Family - as Family always dwells in intimate limits of the Imago of every individual -) is singularly deprived of the complex, full capacity, and capability of leading the USA (and I would add, far more than Governor Palin who, at least, has an experience of governing, while Obama has only experiences of complacent rhetorics.)

And yet, the President is THE President of the USA, and the vice-president is only a vice-president…
(This prospective of Obama Presidency male dominance was amusingly highlighted by the macho kiss of Obama on Biden’s wife’s mouth, in front of a “surprised” Biden, and an “electrified” or mesmerized folkloric crowd. By the way, Biden did not even “think” of kissing Obama’s wife on her mouth : Hierarchy commands Hierarchy !)

More seriously, Obama, despite his undulating phraseology, has finally revealed himself totally ignorant of IDEOLOGY WAR.
Obama could send as many soldiers to be killed, and spend as many billions of dollars, in Afghanistan instead of Iraq (what an innovative revolution ! ) : that would not change one iota, on the long term, in the War against Islam Terrorism.

The real and only target on the long term is the Madrasas, Islamic Schools & Centres, etc. who teach tirelessly the murderous hatred of all non-Muslims : (Jews, Christians, Hindouists, Buddhists, Shintoists, Animists, Shamanists, Marxists, etc.)

A perfect example of this IDEOLOGY WAR is given, TODAY on an impressive scale, by the Genocide of Darfour :
And who rushed first to the aid of the President of Sudan (and his acolytes who masterminded this Genocide) ???
- An angry Assembly of Arab Ministers ! (although the Moslem Population of Sudan are not Arabs but Africans enslaved and converted by force to Islam in the 9th century…)

And, here again, Obama (by himself and with his background family) appears completely disarmed, glued and vulnerable in the interlocked Fundamentals of the Islam Terrorism Ideology.
At least, John Mc Cain offers an efficient guaranty of the valuable experience of collective discipline, which is one of the minimum conditions of waging war against any Terrorism.

Should, one predictable day, the Pakistani (or Iranian) atomic Weapon fall in the hands of Al-Qaida, Talibans, and other similar Syndicates, their automated brains, fully loaded with petrodollars but rather humiliated, thirsting for revenge, and wanting to set to Occident a spectacular and unforgettable example of MUHAMMADAN JIHAD , would not hesitate, one minute, to use the Atomic Weapon, to wipe off Israel, to set ablaze the Middle East Oil reserves (of the “civilized World”) and to strike the powerful USA…
And then, the 11-9 surprise of the twin towers of New-York would be nothing compared to the Hell Disaster to come.

On the necessary way of waging War efficiently, on the long term, against Islamic Terrorism, without endlessly sacrificing soldiers and wasting billions of Dollars :
SEE : http://jerusalem-4thtemple-natan.blogspot.com
Post : “ROBOMARTYRS”

P.S. Quizz : (-the first who finds the right answer wins 1 US Dollar paid by Natan-) :
Why the running-Mate of Barack Obama is not Hillary Clinton ?

Posted by: Natan | September 3, 2008 6:38 AM | Report abuse

as a ct democrat and as a citizen I am ashamed to be represented by Sen. Lieberman, a man of NO principles other than protect his own. I hope the Senate Democrats will oust him from the caucus and from his chairmanship even if we temporarily lose the senate.

Posted by: paul | September 3, 2008 6:31 AM | Report abuse


How appropriate that Likudite Israeli-firster Lieberman is speaking at the Republican convention, now that the Republican Party is a junior member of the Likud Party. (Not that the Democrats are any better, the main competition between the parties these days is who can stick their head up Israel's bum the furthest - but there at least used to be a wing of the Republican Party that favored the interests of Americans, ahh, the good old days.)

Posted by: Andreas | September 3, 2008 6:31 AM | Report abuse

It seems really, really weird for Lieberman to be supportive of Palin...

Posted by: PS | September 3, 2008 6:22 AM | Report abuse

Lieberman is 66. He will be in the Senate until 2013 when he will be 71. He may be thinking of retirement, but his main agreement with the GOP is on the war in Iraq, and little else.

I'm not quite clear why he's gone so far as this except if he really feels vengeful toward CT democrats for not wanting him over the war issue.

Posted by: AG | September 3, 2008 6:21 AM | Report abuse

Joe Liberman (I)...Israel.

Joe has the right to speak at the RNC. He is an American and as an American he has freedom of speech.

My concern is the Joe that represents interests in Israel. I don't think it's in the best interest of national security to have a politician that says he is for the U.S., first, but clearly by his actions represents interests of a foreign nation.

Posted by: ssanford00 | September 3, 2008 6:17 AM | Report abuse

Interesting that RNC will use Lieberman as a cheerleader but doesn't trust him on the ticket! Conservative enough to bash Obama, but not conservative enough for right wing of GOP. He'll be forgotten as soon as the confetti is swept off the convention floor. I would have much more respect for McCain and the GOP if they'd have selected Liebs for VP instead of a moose-hunting beauty queen who has no international experience.

Posted by: motownmcb | September 3, 2008 6:17 AM | Report abuse

It was exceptionally frustrating to hear the "gifted and eloquent *young* man" comment. It is extremely condescending and only highlights the disparity in age between the two candidates. It makes it sound like the only qualified candidate is an older candidate. Age does not always equal foresight and the proper experience.

Posted by: Shirl | September 3, 2008 6:09 AM | Report abuse


Lieberman had promised he would only praise McCain not attack Obama if he spoke at the RNC.

He repeatedly attacked Obama. He has no integrity (and he was an awful VP candidate, one of Gore's biggest mistakes).

Posted by: LiebermanLied | September 3, 2008 6:07 AM | Report abuse

"All you need to know about Mr. Self-Promotion (aka Joe Lieberman) is that he ran for re-election to the Senate in the same year that he was the vice presidential candidate on the Democratic ticket. I think that's called "hedging one's bets." No one does it better (or with fewer principles)."

So did Lloyd Bentsen in 1988 when running with Dukakis. It's done all the time. All of you, grow up.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 3, 2008 6:02 AM | Report abuse

"All you need to know about Mr. Self-Promotion (aka Joe Lieberman) is that he ran for re-election to the Senate in the same year that he was the vice presidential candidate on the Democratic ticket. I think that's called "hedging one's bets." No one does it better (or with fewer principles)."

So did Lloyd Bentsen in 1988 when running with Dukakis. It's done all the time. All of you, grow up.

Posted by: dyinglikeflies | September 3, 2008 6:02 AM | Report abuse

All you need to know about Mr. Self-Promotion (aka Joe Lieberman) is that he ran for re-election to the Senate in the same year that he was the vice presidential candidate on the Democratic ticket. I think that's called "hedging one's bets." No one does it better (or with fewer principles).

Posted by: zephyr99 | September 3, 2008 5:54 AM | Report abuse

So Joe doesn't think it's Obama's "turn." How insightful. This nasty little turncoat Likudnik whiner clearly thought it was HIS turn in 2004 and has never forgiven the Democrats for snickering at "Joementum."
As far as I'm concerned, the Republicans can have him--but nobody likes a traitor and I expect they'll just use and discard him. After all, where is Zell Miller today?

Posted by: kathleen | September 3, 2008 5:50 AM | Report abuse

Lieberman is the voice of conscience, and when you are about to do something wrong, that voice may be hard to listen to. Democrats need to move away from their message of hate for George Bush and listen to their conscience. This election is not about George Bush, those were the last two. It is time to move on -- how ironic that the liberals who capitalized on that phrase can't seem to put it into practice. Lieberman has shown that if you place country and principle above the Democratic party you pay the price. Russ Feingold found out the same thing. You can't be placing country first and expect to rise in the Democratic party.

How strange that it is the Republican party that has the tolerance to let someone who has acted like Lieberman be their candidate rather than their enemy.

I'm glad I'm an independent and don't have to pay the party price. I don't have party loyalty preventing me from doing the right thing.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 3, 2008 5:46 AM | Report abuse

It will only be the last straw to the Dems if they pick up a bigger majority in the Senate in 2008. Otherwise they will continue to "allow" Lieberman to caucus with them and they will continue to kiss his rear end. When Lieberman won as an independant after the Dem party thew him under the bus, he started running the show. If McCain wins he will probably give Lieberman a spot in his cabinet. Hillary should have pulled a Lieberman and stopped being loyal to a party that was more than willing to throw her under the Lieberman bus so they could promote Obama. Pelosi enjoys being the highest ranking woman in Congress, she could not stand the thought of Hillary being more powerful.

Posted by: tiredofit | September 3, 2008 5:37 AM | Report abuse

Some chicken dropping named Anonymous wrote at 12:36 AM:
"Dems hate america, raise taxes and kill babies"

That idiot of a chicken dropping named Anonymous must make more than $250,000, or has only been listening to Lush Rimbaugh or watching Faux News. Otherwise the idiot of a chicken dropping named Anonymous would know that Senator Obama has stated that he will only raise taxes on the top 1.3% of taxpayers - those who make more than $250,000 dollars a year.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 3, 2008 5:35 AM | Report abuse

The haters on the left who are attacking Lieberman are no different than the ones we've dealt with on the right. In fact they have more in common with each other than with real Americans who know that the truth, in politics as in so many other things, usually lies somewhere down the middle.

Did Lieberman lie? No. did he stress some aspects of McCain's record and downplay others, just as he did about Obama? Yes. All of you, get over it and stop the hate.

Posted by: dyinglikeflies | September 3, 2008 5:35 AM | Report abuse

"Did you get a load of the shot into the crowd at the RNC tonight? My god, those people are old and WHITE."

Now who is a racist?

Posted by: Gary E. Masters | September 3, 2008 5:33 AM | Report abuse

Lieberman should be made a pariah among democrats and his committee chairmanship should be gone with the wind. The Waashington Post would do everyone a favor if it took a poll of CT voters and found out how democrats and Independents feel about Lieberman now. He's a traitor to the democrats and to every person who once thought this war mongering senator had a conscience. Let him become a Republican. There's no other place for him to go now and he deserves to sit among those who have used the Consititution like so much toilet tissue and have sent our young men and women to die in a reckless war. Lieberman, John McCain, Bush, Cheney et al, they all have Amercian blood on their hands.

Posted by: Steamboater | September 3, 2008 5:32 AM | Report abuse

Once you set the context of the discussion, you own the conclusions.

So is it end the war now or fight for 100 years?

Is it win the war now or give up?

It all depends on how you see it.

But I had rather say "work to win" rather than "pro-war."

Even those who want to win want it to end. Just as those who want to end it now. But it is much like a surgical operation - there is work to do before you sew things up.

Posted by: Gary E. Masters | September 3, 2008 5:28 AM | Report abuse

>>Brad wrote: "You obviously don't follow the news much. The John McCain of even 3-4 years ago is not the John McCain we see today. He has gone completely to the right on most issues, flip flopping as he panders to the far right to get elected. He has undergone a complete personality transplant from the independent soul he used to be...In short, he sold out. Palin is a prime example as she brings absolutely nothing to the party other than a right wing resume."

And what do you call Barack Obama's transformations and flip-flopping this year? He's reversed himself on all major stands!

Oh, for Obama, what he does is just election year repositioning, and that's okay.

How many sides of their mouth can Obama supporters talk out of?

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 3, 2008 5:11 AM | Report abuse

oh brad, please. mccain is the mccain of four years ago.
is obama the obama of four months ago. during the dem primaries, he said clinton lacked judgment because she voted for the war. but he selects biden who also voted for the war. he said clinton was horrific for supporting nafta -but biden voted for nafta (something clinton clearly didnt do). why should we trust obama more than anyone else? he's a fake lying politician like the rest. but he smiles and has a white mom, so i guess it's cool....

Posted by: democrat. | September 3, 2008 5:08 AM | Report abuse

Lieberman didn't say anything that was untrue.

If his interest is in Israel's security, he's right to suspect that Obama's a threat to Israel's security based on Obama's past naive and inept comments about Iran and the Middle East (that Obama has since backpedaled on).

Obama's not ready to be president, especially when it comes to foreign policy. Putting a foreign policy senior senator on his ticket as VP hardly makes up for the president's own lack of experience and incoherence on the subject.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 3, 2008 5:07 AM | Report abuse

Reading the irrational venom here directed by some of the Posters at Joe Lieberman is enlightening.
None of that bile helps their casue or mine, or America's for that matter. But they spew it, in their impotent fury, for reasons know n only to themselves.

Posted by: Sternberg | September 3, 2008 5:07 AM | Report abuse

Dems should give Joe the boot. I think his agenda is to keep the US up to its ass in middle east conflict and in that way continue unthinking support of Israel. A recall election by the voters in Conn would be a deserving response to old Joe.

Posted by: gjhinHI | September 3, 2008 5:03 AM | Report abuse

Everyone should applaud Lieberman. Realizing he will more than likely lose his favour and chairmanship of a committee in Congress.... he does the unthinkable for Washington politicians. He does what's right. Everything he said about Obama's record, or lack thereof, was true.
Folks, this is change we can believe in. Change that has the courage to do what is right for the country even when it does not help those who support us. Obama would do well to learn this lesson from Lieberman. Lieberman learned it well from McCain.
McCain.... we can believe he will change things by not just what he says.... but what he has done.

Posted by: Tim Norman | September 3, 2008 4:59 AM | Report abuse

can't wait til traiter joe is shipped back to israel.

Posted by: shame on Joe AIPAC Lieberman! | September 3, 2008 4:51 AM | Report abuse

others making comments think it is less than "classy" to "trash" a "decent guy" for, apparently, simply speaking his mind? just how much "class" does that "decent guy" have -- or deserve in return?

who supported Lieberman in all of his elections before 2006 (when he lost a primary fight against a true representative of his nominal party)?

who made Lieberman into a national figure, elevating him beyond crumudgeonly anti-Hollywood senatorial mediocrity?

who graciously allowed Lieberman to have a voice in the senate, by allowing him to caucus with them, instead of hanging him out to dry as an island-of-one, unable to champion legislation or causes as the senate's only unaffiliated member?

hint: the same group that he repaid by jamming a hidden knife between its shoulder blades by not only picking self-interest over honor and loyalty, but also consciously attempting to destroy his former party's nominee with baseless attacks scripted by his republican minders.

i agree that lieberman will get what's coming to him, when his spurned and burned former allies turn their backs on him completely. does he think the republican party will welcome him with open arms? he would be wise to study the fate of moderate, pro-choice republicans in recent history, who have been hunted to the point of extinction. incumbency and name recognition won't be enough to save you from your own self-inflicted blows next time, joe -- or are you counting on a cabinet position or supreme court appointment when your buddy gets elected president? think again: he can't (or simply is afraid to) upset his party's doctrinaire social conservative wing by giving a significant position to someone like you, so you'll have no joy there either. serves you right, foul turncoat.

Posted by: ed poole | September 3, 2008 4:43 AM | Report abuse

Can the republican party just take Old Joe in already....the droopy cheeks are not welcome in the Democratic party anymore

Posted by: irena19 | September 3, 2008 4:24 AM | Report abuse

Such unrelenting hate. How can democracy as we knew it survive?

Posted by: Bob Gonzalez | September 3, 2008 4:22 AM | Report abuse

All Joe Lieberman wants to do is to smash Muslims.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 3, 2008 4:19 AM | Report abuse

I watched Joe.
Good Grief, even HE didn't look like he believed a word he was saying.

Posted by: wardropper | September 3, 2008 4:15 AM | Report abuse

Joe Lieberman looks like Krusty the Klown, the character on the show The Simpsons.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 3, 2008 4:11 AM | Report abuse

There's something wrong with that headline:
"Lieberman's last straw"

Lieberman IS the last straw, for all Americans.

I think you meant that after clutching at straws for many years now in order to try and salvage some sort of reputation, there is now only one straw left for him.
But the straws are not Lieberman's, so you can't call this Lieberman's last straw.

Lieberman's last hope, perhaps?
Yes, that's it!
Lieberman's last hope.

Posted by: wardropper | September 3, 2008 4:09 AM | Report abuse

Palin may just be a ploy to get Joe on the ticket. The one thing the Republicans did not want to be broadcast over the air waves was masses of delegates storming out of the convention hall, they now don't have that. Next week when they have all gone back to their districts, Palin bows out, and McCain can put in his pal Joe, no muss, very little fuss.

Posted by: Mike | September 3, 2008 4:07 AM | Report abuse

Lieberman is a liar.

This year, I've seen Obama confront the two most powerful interests in the Democratic Party, denouncing blacks for homophobia in his MLK day speech at the Ebenezer Baptist Church and urging merit pay in a speech to the AFT, an anathema to the membership of arguably the most powerful group within the Democratic Party.

As for McCain, he has completely caved in to the worst parts of his party: the "Christian" extremists who McCain formerly characterized as "agents of intolerance" (they basically dictated his choice of Palin, as Lieberman well knows) and what Teddy Roosevelt called "malefactors" of great wealth by adopting the regressive and ruinous tax policies which he had previously denounced and voted against.

John McCain has displayed a level of cowardice and hypocrisy unparalleled in the history of Presidential politics. He's no Maverick. He is a fraud.

Posted by: mnjam | September 3, 2008 3:34 AM | Report abuse

Lieberman, is a turn coat disgrace. He cares only about Joe, and his beloved Isreal. He would join the communist party, if it could win him a seat in the senate. The only solace I take from all this, is historians will dubb him for eternity an opportunist leech.

Posted by: Joe | September 3, 2008 3:33 AM | Report abuse

Lie-berman is the Zell Miller of 2008! Who's Zell Miller, you might ask. OK, maybe not those of you who are big enough political junkies to read comments on a Washington Post blog. But Zell is nowhere now, after being 2004's Gooper-designated Democratic turncoat. (OK, Zell's in Georgia, but that's as good as nowhere to me, and I say that as a Southerner, a Southern Hemispherian, to be precise.)

I look forward to seeing the Democrats smash the Repukelickin' Party to bloody pulp this November. You 'Pukes are doomed, doomed I tell you! Prepare to join the Whigs in the ranks of political oblivion. And Lie-berman will be the first to be purged from any committee chairmanship and given a Senate office in a broom closet. I'd suggest putting him in a toilet stall next to Larry Craig, but Mr. "I am not gay. I have never been gay" won't be around next year.

Buh-bye, Gang of Perverts. Take your traitor with you. And then progressives can start rooting out the other Republicans who pose as members of the liberal party. Payback's coming, boys, and it's gonna be a you-know-what!

Posted by: Bukko in Australia | September 3, 2008 3:13 AM | Report abuse

TO DEMOCRAT:

You obviously don't follow the news much. The John McCain of even 3-4 years ago is not the John McCain we see today. He has gone completely to the right on most issues, flip flopping as he panders to the far right to get elected. He has undergone a complete personality transplant from the independent soul he used to be...In short, he sold out. Palin is a prime example as she brings absolutely nothing to the party other than a right wing resume.

Posted by: Brad | September 3, 2008 3:13 AM | Report abuse

Lieberman can tell himself all day that he's doing it for America but in reality he's doing it for Lieberman... everything he does is for Joe. This guy is a psychopath.

Posted by: Old Joe | September 3, 2008 3:12 AM | Report abuse

Lieberman is the most dangerous senator... he cares nothing for America he only pretends to care so he can further Israels interests.

Lieberman be damned.

Posted by: TruthBeKnown | September 3, 2008 3:06 AM | Report abuse

"Constipated" Joe lost the Democratic primary in his state... then decided to run against the Democrat who won as an independent and won his seat.

Joe has always been more independent than party-line as has McCain (but McCain is towing that line today).

Joe has dual citizenship, an Israeli citizen too so don't expect him to protect America all the time. In fact he tried to prevent Israeli spies Pollard from being extradited and uses pressure to keep Kadish out of jail.

Joe was Enron's main squeeze also, authoring the same legislation that allowed Enron to crash and burn and also the reason for the current credit crisis... now he's singing a different tune, repeal the "speculators" law he authored.

Moral of the story: Don't trust Joe.

Posted by: trolini | September 3, 2008 3:03 AM | Report abuse

I get so bitter and angry when I realize that Hillary is entitled to the presidency -- not Obama Hussein Barack. Hillary understands that it is the far-left members of the Democratic Party -- angry, bitter leftists like me who read firedoglake and are secure in our gender identity -- that will have the final say in who gets elected this fall. So that fact that Joe Lieberman is supporting John McCain and not Obama Hussein Barack is not a big deal -- Hillary is entitled to be president and she will find a way to grab it from Osama.

Posted by: twin_peaks_nikki | September 3, 2008 3:01 AM | Report abuse

After all the screaming comments before me, speaking as a former exec. myself, I have only one question:
Has anyone ever thought to ask what Palin actually DID as an executive, i.e.how well or badly she managed, what she achieved or didn't, and what her subordinates thought of her leadership, etc.
It seems that the many supporters who simply keep saying "she's had executive experience", think that it automatically qualifies her as someone that could be "a heartbeat away" from the US presidency. I find that assumption naive and extremely dangerous, (witness the past 8 years).
In my view wise judgement, and thoughtful action is what is needed in this complex world.

Posted by: Brenda the Brit | September 3, 2008 2:48 AM | Report abuse

You know your Party is doomed big-time when you're relying on Joseph Lieberman to seal the deal.


Because, as usual, Lieberman is only doing this GOP gig for the greater glory of. . . Joe Lieberman.


Sucks to be a Republican. Now More than Ever.™

Posted by: Christian in NYC | September 3, 2008 2:46 AM | Report abuse

Lieberman will lose his committee chairmanship next year. The Republicans aren't about to give him the plumb assignment so he will resign. He will then be hired by AIPAC to lobby his former Senate colleagues.

Posted by: Crempole Stalwart | September 3, 2008 2:40 AM | Report abuse

This is the first time I heard Lieberman speak, and I had no idea was such a poor speaker! No wonder the Dems almost didn't win!

Maybe I'm too immersed in the world of politics to have a different take on things, but all I heard Lieberman priase was instances in which McCain acted like a Democrat.

Why vote for half a Democrat when you can have a whole one?

Posted by: Ethan Q | September 3, 2008 2:40 AM | Report abuse

Joe Lieberman is very easy to understand.

He is one authentic true believer among many American Jews who are FAR more hawkish against Israel's enemies than even the majority of Israelis are. Joe believes that every threat to Israel needs to be beaten into complete submission. Israel doesn't have that capability but America (Joe thinks) does. This is the one and only source of his never-ending support for the war in Iraq, his desire to pick a fight with Iran, etc.

Joe isn't a bad man in any sense of the word, in my opinion. But he IS a very biased one. And his bias is Israel first (last and always, too) and he feels the Dems have deserted her.

But Joe gives McCain's slogan, "country first", an ironic meaning with his every word and deed.

Posted by: Carmen Cameron | September 3, 2008 2:37 AM | Report abuse

you people are such pathetic hypocrites. kerry considered mccain as a running mate, and biden said he would be honored to run WITH or against john mccain for president. now, endorsing him makes lieberman an awful person. are kerry and biden awful too? change is looking a lot like the same old hypocrisy....

Posted by: democrat | September 3, 2008 2:25 AM | Report abuse

lmb - i'm not a woman. i think constantly. and i'm not voting for obama either. not thinking means that i vote for obama because clinton made a "party unity" speech urging me to do so. i found his campaign and supporters obnoxious and hypocritical. he said that clinton lacked judgment for supporting the war, and then chooses biden - who was a big supporter of the war. does that mean that biden lacks judgment? i guess not, because he's an old white man. does obama lack judgment for picking someone who, under his standards applied to clinton, lacks judgment? probably not, because he's the lord obama...

Posted by: democrat | September 3, 2008 2:23 AM | Report abuse

mark - you say the repubs are the "kkk" and had one black in the audience...well, the democrats have one black governor and one black senator. that's it. obama won the nomination in part because of sexism against clinton and because he had to play down his race....while accusing critics of racism (great politician). we have never had a democratic sec of state or any other high cabinet position. the first blacks elected to congress were repubs.

Posted by: democrat | September 3, 2008 2:20 AM | Report abuse

Donna L, are you really that easily manipulated? Really so devoted to gender over everything else? Good heavens, you're the embodiment of the arguments given against giving women the right to vote -- they wouldn't think before they voted, they were easily influenced by shiny objects.

Do you make all your choices solely on gender? Or just the ones that impact the lives of you and your family?

For goodness sakes, GET OVER IT and reengage your mind, just like Hillary has done! Hillary knows where victory is and it's not repudiating all she believes in just to get a skirt into the VP's office! THINK!

Posted by: LMB | September 3, 2008 2:17 AM | Report abuse

Joe is a sanctimonious hypocrite who for matters of poltical expediency switched his party registration after losing the primary. He won his election thanks to crossover Republican votes; he accepted their contributions, and despite a campaign pledge to institute hearings into the abuses at Homeland Security, tabled any oversight hearings the day AFTER he was named chairman. Can anyone say quid pro quo? He now embraces McCain, although Obama was one of the few national Democrats that campaigned for him. As a McCain surrogate he has attacked Obama's patriotism baselessly, and engaged in slurs that would make Republicans proud. Deservedly, he will be in charge of toilet paper come 2009 because his newfound friends on the right will need him no longer, and the Democrats will seek to address the number of times he legislatively betrayed them.

Posted by: bklyndan | September 3, 2008 2:16 AM | Report abuse

Absolutely right Penelope!

Posted by: Mary | September 3, 2008 2:16 AM | Report abuse

it flabbergasts me that anyone would vote for someone based on anything but the issues - and how each candidate's values track to me as an individual.

as a woman, i would no sooner vote for a female candidate solely based on her gender than i would vote for a man because he's attractive - even george clooney. both are inane reasons to bother hitting the polls.

if you're voting for mccain because his 2nd in command is a woman - or obama because he's black - your voting priveledges should be revoked.

Posted by: penelope | September 3, 2008 2:12 AM | Report abuse

very funny. obama's web kiddies were screeching at fever pitch about how more republicans and independents supported him...that supposedly showed that he, not clinton, could beat mccain. they even came up with a name for republicans voting for obama -- "obamicans." now, when a dem supports a republican, it's a sign of some great personal defect. what a bunch of hypocrites.

ps: obama said that clinton lacked judgment for voting for the war. biden voted for the war. does this mean that obama has selected a running mate who lacks judgment? what does this say about obama's judgment?

Posted by: democrat | September 3, 2008 2:11 AM | Report abuse

There was a chance Obama could have lost due to plain old racism.

Not after Hurricane Sarah.

Even single-issue rich people are going to reconsider voting for someone as irresponsible as McCain.

Can't win with only the nutball 30%.

Posted by: Left Behind | September 3, 2008 2:09 AM | Report abuse

I'm a Democrat, and I OPPOSED the Iraq War, but I SUPPORTED the surge, and have supported finishing the job in Iraq since at least early 2005, maybe even earlier, though I don't remember when the switch occurred. I'm supporting Obama this year, but it's for complex reasons. I still am "pro" -- whatever that means -- the Iraq War, and I believe that Joe Lieberman is a decent and honorable and COURAGEOUS man, and that the Democratic party, in a partisan fever, has treated him poorly. He's a good Democrat, but more than that, a good American, and a loyal friend to those who put country above partisanship. Happily, that constitutes the majority of this country, who cannot the full extremes of either party, and who make decisions based on the sterner compass of their own instincts, morality, and common sense. I'm not ashamed to still admire Joe Lieberman, even though I will pull the lever for Obama and have contributed hundreds of dollars to him (see OpenSecrets). Go Obama. And Go Joe.

Posted by: Kenyon Harbison | September 3, 2008 2:09 AM | Report abuse

That's right Donna. Vote strictly on gender and not on issues. That's rational. Most mothers juggle family and career, that doesn't make us all qualified.

Posted by: Mary | September 3, 2008 2:07 AM | Report abuse

Spit in Joe Lieberman's face...I guess he's no longer a democrat, or an independent....actually speaking for McCain at the Republican convention. I think he should have been named McCain's (competent, experienced, seasoned) running mate. But since he's not, he may as well be a treasonous redcoat. Thanks Joe for propagating more of what you used to rail against.

Posted by: mr20 | September 3, 2008 2:03 AM | Report abuse

Obama is a lightweight, and only reason he got the nomination is because he isn't Hillary. The men in the DNC would rather elect Rush Limbaugh if nothing more than to prevent Hillary from getting the nomination.

Every woman in America can empathize with a successful woman who juggled family and career. Biden & Obama, while represent my politics, don't represent my gender.

I'm voting for Palin, and if that means McCain will be president for just 4 years, then that is OK with me.

Posted by: Donna L. | September 3, 2008 1:58 AM | Report abuse

who opened the gates to the sanitarium? good grief people. joe was defeated in the democratic primary but still won the election. that shows a lot of power. biden supported the war, just like joe. obama said that clinton lacked judgment for supporting the war, but then picks biden. does biden lack judgment? how can obama say that mccain lacks judgment when biden did the same thing that he says demonstrates that clinton lacks judgment?

Posted by: democrat | September 3, 2008 1:58 AM | Report abuse

Its really amusing, kinda sickening at the same time to see such a long standing, formerly great Democrat lead himself down this road.To step on that stage and state he is a Democrat is so against anything democratic, i cant beleive he is that stupid.His desire to be in the limelight, his on the edge of being a conservative anyways (alas he couldnt, he is a jew after all)is finally bringing down the man who allmost was.\
And if Gore had anything to say, he'd most likely say that " Joe was a great guy , once, but might have killed his campaign in 2000 from being such a moderate" . And im sure Joe was a little pissed about not being onstage at the DNC convention , what a little crybaby.

Posted by: Funny thing | September 3, 2008 1:53 AM | Report abuse

Hey Michael, I'm a Democrat, and I can tell you that they are nothing but hypocrites. They are on here bashing Lieberman for merely endorsing people with conservative views, but earlier, were cheering the election on Democrats in southern "red" districts -- although those Democrats were anti-choice, pro-prosecution, and conservative on a host of other social issues (Louisiana and Mississippi house of rep elections). They were just happy to see a Republican lose, even though the Democrats are not that liberal. Now, they are bashing Democrats for supporting candidates who are just as conservative as the blue dogs.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 3, 2008 1:50 AM | Report abuse

Harry Reid won't do a damn thing. His cowardice and craven demeanor have been on full display these past four years. Combined with Pelosi's ineptitude, it's like the Ds never won Congress.

Posted by: Destonio | September 3, 2008 1:49 AM | Report abuse

Someone get the bus; I'll hold him down.

I like how Lieberman gets to determine what is best for the country all by himself.

If the people of Conn. have any self-respect, they will greet him with phlegm wherever he is seen.

Posted by: K Ackermann | September 3, 2008 1:48 AM | Report abuse

Ariana Huffington tried to bring Joe Leiberman down in the early days of her new blog. Now the Huffington Post is a big success, the Iraq War is winding down successfully and Joe Leiberman spoke at the Republican Convention in prime time. My how quickly things change.

Posted by: Ken P | September 3, 2008 1:43 AM | Report abuse

RNC=KKK

They panned to the one black man in the audience. I hope he gets home safely. What an amazing display of diversity the Republicans have.

Posted by: Mark | September 3, 2008 1:41 AM | Report abuse

What McCain doesn't have is the temperament. In this position, you can't go back and explain 15 minutes later, with tears rolling down your cheek, that you're sorry.

Posted by: patr2 | September 3, 2008 1:41 AM | Report abuse

Who cares what he says? The Democrats will kick him into the broom closet in January. The Republicans will turn on him, because they ultimately hate disloyalty, even if it helps them, and despise Lieberman.

He'll probably resign from the Senate once he's no longer the center of attention, and give Jodi Rell the chance to appoint another Republican in his place.

Posted by: Luther Blissett | September 3, 2008 1:40 AM | Report abuse

I hate the GOP. They've practically ruined this country in 8 short years of Bush-led incompetence. I was hoping McCain would be different, but picking Palin as VP means he's under the thumbs of the holy-rollers just like Bush. Disgusting, pathetic, treasonous, incompetent, arrogant, cowardly, lying, cheating, manipulative, gay-bashing, racist republicans.

Posted by: Tom | September 3, 2008 1:39 AM | Report abuse

Lieberman's speech pointed out the real difficulty that John McCain and the Republican party have.

I haven't read all the comments in this thread, but I'm wondering if anyone other than me noticed that when Lieberman started getting specific about exactly HOW John McCain is a "maverick" the applause level dropped about 75%. The Republicans who are going to nominate McCain tomorrow are the same Republicans who were massively pissed with him over the issues of campaign finance reform, immigration, and global warming -- not to mention the "Gang of 14".

MaCain is in a real pickle. He can either pander to his "base" (or rather the extreme right wing of his base) and be open to the Democratic charges of being the reincarnation of George W. Bush, or he can stress his independent stances on various issues, which is why he's in trouble with his "base" on the first place.

I'm really enjoying this election cycle. I can't remember one quite so bizarre

Posted by: willythekorn | September 3, 2008 1:38 AM | Report abuse

As Lieberman said so eloquently , he did not abandon the Democrat party, the DNC abandoned the Democratic ideals.

Recall that it was JFK who said that there was no place on earth too far away to fight for freedom. It was also JFK who ran on a platform that the US needed more defense spending to protect the nation.

Yes, Joe Lieberman retains the ideals of the Democratic party as he knew it, and that's a problem for Hillary and Obama.

Posted by: fly4vino | September 3, 2008 1:35 AM | Report abuse

Lieberman cares more about Israel and having US troops in the Mid_East than anything else. His loyalty as an orthodox outweighs all other considerations. Praising Palin was beyond the pale but again she supports keeping troops on the Arabian pennisula to keep kicking the cr*p out of the Arabs. But oops, we really can't say that can we?

Posted by: Va O Fan | September 3, 2008 1:34 AM | Report abuse

It amazes me the difference in the reaction Lieberman gets from other Dems vs. how we treat Repubs who speak thier minds and don't always agree with our platform on everything as witnessed by Jim Leech at the DNC! We have room for Pro choice candidates like the gov of CA but man, try to find a pro life Dem that high--almost impossible! The Dems strike me as a party Nazi thought police where they will even tear and demagogue their own if thy don't fall EXACTLY in line with their narrow ideologoy

I admire anyone who cna be their own person adn not be intimidated by party bullies to go with thier conscience. How you Dems can rip Lieberman to shreds like this is despicable but hey, you guys don't care about character and honour it seems.

BTW, Chris, I've been listening and watching the Washington Post podcasts through the DNC and now, into this GOP convention and I have to say I am so impressed with your hosting abilities and coverage. your guests are stimulating and your questions balanced and fair. Excellent work!!! You've made a convert out of me. Washington Post is now my first source for news. I hope oyu do this through the debates and election night itself.

Posted by: Michael | September 3, 2008 1:34 AM | Report abuse

The press misses much of what Lieberman is all about. He stood nearly alone as a Democrat who was disgusted by Clinton's abuse of the judicial system. That made him a marked man and Hillary does not forgive.

The DNC stepped into replace Lieberman with another Democrat, funding the primary campaign against him. Why, perhaps because Hillary did not want the conscience of the Democratic party around to spoil her run for the roses. Make no mistake, Lieberman lost the Democratic primary not because his constituents were unhappy, but because the national party leadership wanted him gone. Much to their surprise he survived.

Although the party wanted to dump him they realized that without his vote on most social and more importantly procedural issues they were dead. With Lieberman they had a majority so they took him in. Principled leadership by the demos ? You be the judge.

Lieberman understands what is at stake in the middle east, recalls that Bin Laden declared war on the US midway through the Clinton admn. He recognizes the threat to world stability if fundamentalists gain more control. Something that seems to escape Obama.

Lieberman and McCain sit near the middle of the political spectrum. That's what offends Obama's people and their funding sources like Soros.

The DNC anger if further inflamed in that Lieberman has the ear of many, normally generous Jewish contributors to democrats and the hearts of many Jewish voters. They tried to trivialize him in the last election much to their regret. This year is likely to be a repeat.

Posted by: fly4vino | September 3, 2008 1:31 AM | Report abuse

Me: "It was interesting to see views of the crowd at the RNC tonight. Was it me or was everyone there old, white, upper middle class or frat boys? That is so far from who Americas is today. I felt sorry for the Republican party - they just don't have a chance this time around and desperation looks very sad."

You: "I was thinking the same thing about the Democratic Convention.How in the world could you get so many looney tunes in one place."

Me: So you are saying diversity equals "looney?" I can see why some of us are struggling to be proud to be Americans, hugh. Where is the Christian right wing in such intolerance as this? God isn't a Dem. or Rep. but I would venture to guess that Jesus might have been a Dem.

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Posted by: scrivener | September 3, 2008 1:28 AM | Report abuse

Lieberman lost any remaining credibility with his endorsement of Sara Palin. His positions on social issues are opposite of Palin's, a person he may have recently met. Joe will soon learn the Republican Party will have little use for him should McCain lose the election. The next chapter: Lieberman, A Man Without A Party!

Posted by: Lou R | September 3, 2008 1:27 AM | Report abuse

This speech -- the fact that he decided to give it as well as its contents -- serves as a challenge to Democrats, Lieberman throwing down the gauntlet to his former colleagues. How will they respond?
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The only challange will be to get to the bathroom before peeing my pants laughing so hard. Lieberman was a snore when he ran in 2000 and he continues to be today. His speech was elementary at best and provided a great sleep aid.

Posted by: AGM | September 3, 2008 1:24 AM | Report abuse

VERY WELL SAID STAN. I REST MY CASE.


Posted by: ? | September 3, 2008 1:23 AM | Report abuse

Lieberman will pay for this.

Posted by: McDufus | September 3, 2008 1:23 AM | Report abuse

Did you get a load of the shot into the crowd at the RNC tonight? My god, those people are old and WHITE.

Posted by: THIS JUST IN | September 3, 2008 1:22 AM | Report abuse

JUDAS LOSERMAN AT THE GOP: SUCH A SHONDA


All the Palin praise on the part of the Repubs was understandable... they've got to show their support for an inept vetting and a self-defeating VP pick because that's the program. The only way Palin can make a proud and graceful exit ("for the benefit of her family," of course) is to make it HER decision.

It may not happen this week, but sometime soon, to give her successor sufficient time to offset the damage she's doing to the GOP's prospects.

But Lieberman bragging on Palin, too? That's beyond the pale -- literally. So true to his positions on social issues...

...Next thing you know he'll be mixing meat and dairy and burning sex-ed textbooks. What a yold.

The GOP hates traitors and cowards, which is why even after last night, they don't respect Joe Shmoe, despite his craven convention supplications.

Posted by: Outside the Box | September 3, 2008 1:22 AM | Report abuse

Yes, the Republicans want change. Wait. They have been in charge. Change what? Their own policies? The platform they unleashed is the same as last time, just more extreme. Bush either wants to extend Bush's policies or increase them. How is that change?

You say Obama wants to tax you? You then, must be making 200,000 or better, because that group and up will be taxed more, as it should be. The rich have been getting all the breaks. WHen this country was at its greatest, the rich paid a much higher percentage of their incomes in taxes. Meanwhile McCain rolls out a pittance in tax relief for the rest of America, Those of us working hard, and are getting less. This creates stagnant economies. WHen you give breaks to the middle class, and the poor, THEN you get the economy rolling, because these people create demand for products, which, in turn, creates jobs. This is why the economy always grows more under Democratic administrations. This is why we get surplus instead of deficit in Democratic administrations. Republicans call for balanced budgets, but can't seem to get over their desire of spending to make it come true. Only the Dems have achieved this goal.

How do we pay off the deficit when you give breaks across the board, with the lion's share going to the rich, and the middle class getting almost nothing?

Yes, we need cuts in government. The Republicans want to trash education, social security, science. Those things that can make America strong. Democrats want to cut hundreds of billions of cold war policies that have no bearing on today's society. We can create great surpluses, educate our children, provide health care for every American child, and make sure the rest of us are able to afford health care.

We need to TALK with the rest of the world, not shut them out. Will that avoid war? Not always, but often it does. We would like a country that tried diplomatic means to resolve differences before we shoot people and put our troops in harm's way. Obama can do that. At least HE can do it without insulting the people he is talking to by confusing their clan with that of their enemy. McCain is so stuck in the 80s he thinks Czechoslovakia still exists. We need a president that understands the way the world is shaped TODAY.

Oh, and let's not forget, McCain has several times said that the draft is quite possibly in our future in order to finish our current wars and start more. My God! Iran is sitting between two countries occupied by the US, and what does he do? He makes jokes about bombing and killing Iranians! Of COURSE they are defensive! How would we feel if Russia occupied Canada and Mexico, and Putin went around making jokes about killing Americans? We wouldn't be as laid back as Iran. We would attack, immediately! We NEED to talk to these countries. We also need to hold true to our promises. These were that we would be in as long as needed and not a moment more, and that we would track down and get Bin Laden. The Republicans failed in getting Bin Laden by wasting resources in Iraq, who wasn't tied to AlQueda. We decided to fight two different wars with an all volunteer army. We sacrificed resources needed to get this SOB, so he could hunt down Saddam, a man WE put in power, and who used chemical weapons WE gave him through Cheney.

I like what Obama plans. Get out of Iraq as they are requesting. McCain and Bush both promised we would do this if they asked, and we should homor that commitment if we want anyone to believe our intentions are good. Then we go and hunt Osama. 8 years and Bush couldn't do it, because he let him go. Why? Because we were busy in Iraq, at the expense of Afghanistan.

In short, McCain and Bush are more interested in controlling Iraqi oil than they are about getting the people who attacked us. THIS IS COUNTRY FIRST?

Good night, and God Bless the U.S.!

Posted by: Stan | September 3, 2008 1:19 AM | Report abuse

im very disappointed with Sen Lieberman. It's one thing to attend the RNC to announce why you support Sen McCain, but something else to attack the nominee of the party you caucus with.

Posted by: nicolas-alb | September 2, 2008 11:04 PM
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Especially after you said only days ago that you wouldn't.

The truth has never been LIEberman's strong suit, though. Ask the voters of Connecticut.

Posted by: tellthetruth | September 3, 2008 1:18 AM | Report abuse

Has anyone else noticed that a Republican Convention looks like a KKK meeting? Luckily, there weren't even enough to fill the seats of that small arena. These are the same people who railroaded McCain out of the presidency in 2000 by accusing him of having a black baby. The real reason they hate Obama is obvious.

Posted by: Mark | September 3, 2008 1:15 AM | Report abuse

"Lieberman throwing down the gauntlet to his former colleagues. How will they respond?"
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Maybe by throwing a pie in his face, for starters.

Posted by: tellthetruth | September 3, 2008 1:14 AM | Report abuse

We often hear that Lieberman is with the Democrats on 90 percent of the issues.

In the case of a presidential pick where economic issues weigh as heavily as national security ones -- not to mention the SCOTUS appointments -- Lieberman sides with McCain?

Strange choice to say the least. Personal considerations appear to have trumped policy considerations (e.g. the kind of things that federal representatives are supposed to advocate).

Does Connecticut have some kind of a recall mechanism?

Posted by: JP2 | September 3, 2008 1:14 AM | Report abuse

Wake me when this is over. this Convention. . its the real answer to insomnia. .. a mommmy who can't run a town of 8000 being the Vice President. This is good stuff. Sinfully sad and morally bankrupt but good stuff.

Posted by: forreal | September 3, 2008 1:12 AM | Report abuse

The idea of Republicans promoting "country before party" is pretty hilarious, considering this administration's record of treachery and treason--fabricating documents, outing CIA agents, etc.

Posted by: qjk | September 3, 2008 1:10 AM | Report abuse

I love new comedy.. like this RNC. .. the power, the pure kinetic energy electrifying the sparse and ignorant crowd at whereever they decided to put this crackbox convention. I love Comedy.. this cracked me up. Stand up at its best.. Oh God, the GOP is going to get their ass kicked.

Posted by: Dos | September 3, 2008 1:09 AM | Report abuse

His speech did not help the republican party at all. Joe sucked.

Posted by: ? | September 3, 2008 1:09 AM | Report abuse

Seriously, will Joe and John be the next "surprise" gay sex scandal in the GOP (it's been a few months since we had one of those - probably time for another)? Given the way they look at each other and what Joe is willing to do to every cause he's ever worked for (besides Iraq), it's hard to discern any other explanation for it.

Posted by: Foley? Haggard? | September 3, 2008 1:09 AM | Report abuse

Lieberman was apparently the man who McCain would have chosen as his VP. He was vetoed by Rove and most of the other powers-that-be in the GOP, who seem to have preferred Romney--a man McCain detests. So McCain gave the country Palin.

Lieberman's speech is McCain's insurance policy. If Palin implodes or has to be thrown off the ticket, Lieberman has innoculated himself (and McCain) so that Joltin' Joe can be made to look acceptable to the Republican rank-and-file.

The dumping of Palin, if it occurs, will of course come after the delegates and alternates have all gone home to their hangovers, McCain's substitution of Lieberman will be done in the middle of the night with the blessing of the Republican National Committee.

That's the reason why Lieberman gave such an over-the-top endorsement of McCain.

The hypocrisy of Lieberman's endorsement of Palin and all that she stands for--almost everything against which Lieberman as a veteran Democratic senator and former vice-presidential candidate has stood and voted--is a magnificent example of cynical old politics at its worst. In what, in the end, does Lieberman believe, anyway? In Joe Lieberman and expediency, I would guess.

No wonder Americans are cynical about politics.

Posted by: jm917 | September 3, 2008 1:08 AM | Report abuse

Does Joe put country first? If so, which country?

Posted by: California | September 3, 2008 1:07 AM | Report abuse

Kelly, historically, anyone who had a black person in their line of ancestry was considered "black" because they were considered "contaminated" by that blood. It's kind of amusing, really, now that there's finally an African American candidate for President, that some white people are acting as though the "black" label is something to which mixed race individuals aspire to without basis, when historically, it was imposed on mixed race individuals by whites.

Posted by: Marina | September 3, 2008 1:05 AM | Report abuse

the only qualification for National Security in the republican party is what is your stand on abortion. Right to Life, yep your an expert!

Posted by: glp86 | September 3, 2008 1:05 AM | Report abuse

"""""""are you kidding ... Condalezza Rice and Colin Powell were put into the most powerful positions in the government by a republican!!.... give up the race thing! .. it don't matter what race obami is .. he is an empty suit!""""""

Yes Mr. Cardenas, they were put into most powerful positions but both failed. Again, race was USED in this situation, but with out the real consideration of the requirements of the job and a suitable candidate. Both of them have failed in accomplishing what their job called for.

And by the way it is OBAMA not OBAMI.


Posted by: who? | September 3, 2008 1:03 AM | Report abuse

The first thing to remember about Joe Lieberman is that he is jewish. His first loyalty is to the racist state of Israel, not to America. He has supported GWBush's obscene and totally unnecessary war in Iraq solidly because he thinks it serves Israel's interest. It does, far more than America's. Lieberman is also a total opportunitist. He wants to be McCain's Secretary of State so he can protect Israel just as Kindasleazy Rice has done these past four sad years. Fortunately, he will not get his wish. Thanks to Sarah Palin and her skewed "family values" none of them will ever set foot in the White House after January 20.

Posted by: David S. Robins | September 3, 2008 1:03 AM | Report abuse

Wow - Dems sure are touchy, and filled with a lot of hate. Thought they were the tolerant ones.

Posted by: Mike Denver | September 3, 2008 1:03 AM | Report abuse

LIBERMAN put's country first: Israel's interests over the U.S.A.

Posted by: SHAUN-KAR | September 3, 2008 1:03 AM | Report abuse

Watching Lieberman tonight somehow brought to mind the image of Sammy Davis Jr. hugging Nixon. Nauseating moments in political history.

Posted by: Peter | September 3, 2008 1:02 AM | Report abuse

What part of "putting country above party" don't you Democrats understand?.......Oh, yeah, the entire concept.

Posted by: Ed | September 3, 2008 1:00 AM | Report abuse

Lieberman's ego never recovered from the terrible pasting that he took in the 2004 Democratic primary. He thought he was a big man after Gore picked him out of obscurity and nearly carried him to the Vioe Presidency. In 2004, Democrats let him know that he was the same unimpressive nonentity that he had always been, and he has been steaming ever since. That is why he baited them by becoming a loud public voice in support of Bush, ran against the Democratic nominee in Connecticut, appeared at the RNC to bash Obama, etc. Just a sad, bitter loser with nothing worthwhile to say, now or ever. Forget him, and let's move on.

Posted by: lydgate | September 3, 2008 12:58 AM | Report abuse

..." John McCain had the judgment to sound the alarm about the mistakes we were making in Iraq."

Huh?
WHEN did he EVER criticize the Bush administration, or Donald Rumsfeld, or Gen. Casey, or Gen. Pace about the doctrine in Iraq?
I'm on a limb here, folks, I'm violating the first rule of cross-examination & asking smething to which I really don't know the answer. I just can't recall McCain propounding a true counterinsurgency doctrine ahead of GWBush.

Posted by: Soldier's Mom | September 3, 2008 12:57 AM | Report abuse

Lipsmacking
Maybe we will get back to the Clinton years

Posted by: Anonymous | September 3, 2008 12:56 AM | Report abuse

Unless the Democrats win exactly 59 seats (extremely unlikely) in the Senate, Lieberman will be kicked out of the caucus.

Posted by: Oscar | September 3, 2008 12:55 AM | Report abuse

as someone who covered congress for 30+ years, i never met anyone who had any respect for a turncoat, on either side.

Posted by: jumpingelephant | September 3, 2008 12:55 AM | Report abuse

I thought Joe Lieberman would be a better speaker. I am undecided. A Hillary supporter, but I always liked McCain, but his choice of VP is insulting to women.
I gave Lieberman a chance to convince me, but he seemed like an out-of-touch old man. Made me think McCain is that out of touch too.

Posted by: UNYC | September 3, 2008 12:55 AM | Report abuse

The voting against the troops thing is so bogus, because the intent was to get to a bill that would have a timetable. I believe it's correct that McCain also voted against a troop funding authorization for a different reason. Joe has joined the ranks of those who are willing to perpetrate fraud to win an election. Sad.

Posted by: Peter | September 3, 2008 12:55 AM | Report abuse

""""""What's up with Obama lipsmacking Jill Biden on the lips ay every meeting.
Posted by: Anonymous | September 3, 2008 12:49 AM"""""""


MS/MR/Whatever, get a life and get serious about your life and your future. Wake up and focus on issues that could be relevant to your children or grand children.

D--b A--

Posted by: cantstand dumbos | September 3, 2008 12:53 AM | Report abuse

It never amazes me how the "open minded" people are "open minded" till you disagree with them. At that point your "a stupid sheep". At the Democrat convention the radicals rally cry was against censorship, yet when Fox News tried conducting interviews these dolts yelled and got pushy so the Fox crew had to leave as "the people for peace" were getting violent. So much for being a "progressive". Further, I saw how these people screwed with cops, waiting for the cops to get pissed off, then filmed after cops had enough being picked on, acting as if they were "victims" of police violence. Sure there are bad cops but I saw people intentionally fall to the ground after being lightly touched by police and scream in agony because they knew they were being filmed by a far left journalist looking for a story.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 3, 2008 12:53 AM | Report abuse

"It is amazing how racist are the members of the Republican party and its supporters are."
...... are you kidding ... Condalezza Rice and Colin Powell were put into the most powerful positions in the government by a republican!!.... give up the race thing! .. it don't matter what race obami is .. he is an empty suit!

Posted by: Francisco Cardenas | September 3, 2008 12:53 AM | Report abuse

It was interesting to see views of the crowd at the RNC tonight. Was it me or was everyone there old, white, upper middle class or frat boys? That is so far from who Americas is today. I felt sorry for the Republican party - they just don't have a chance this time around and desperation looks very sad.

I was thinking the same thing about the Democratic Convention.How in the world could you get so many looney tunes in one place.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 3, 2008 12:53 AM | Report abuse

Re:"In the Senate he (Obama) has not reached across party lines to get anything significant done"
...except, with Richard Lugar (R-IN) keeping conventional & nuclear weapons out of terrorists' hands. No big deal, right?

"nor has he been willing to take on powerful interest groups in the Democratic Party."
...except, to pass the Ethics Reform of 2007, where Obama & Feingold (D-WI) had to re-submit, in open plenary, the TEETH or serious inforcement provisions, which had been cut out of the bill by their own Democratic 'allies' in (secret) committee.
Apparently, some members found it impolitic to do publicly what they found expedient to do in committee. Thus the Reform passed.

Posted by: Soldier's Mom | September 3, 2008 12:51 AM | Report abuse

Or male

Posted by: Anonymous | September 3, 2008 12:50 AM | Report abuse

What wrote: "Lieberman, doesn't want to vote for Black Man..."

... why does it always come down to race? ... Palin is being attacked for her lack of experience ... just like nobami ... and she is white!

Posted by: Francisco Cardenas | September 3, 2008 12:50 AM | Report abuse

What's up with Obama lipsmacking Jill Biden on the lips ay every meeting.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 3, 2008 12:49 AM | Report abuse

It is amazing how racist are the members of the Republican party and its supporters are. Its like if you are not white they cant even see you, and you do not exist.

Wake up people and look around you, this world is colorful, not just white.


Posted by: no to NRA MEMBERS AS VP | September 3, 2008 12:48 AM | Report abuse

It was interesting to see views of the crowd at the RNC tonight. Was it me or was everyone there old, white, upper middle class or frat boys? That is so far from who Americas is today. I felt sorry for the Republican party - they just don't have a chance this time around and desperation looks very sad.

Posted by: anonymous | September 3, 2008 12:48 AM | Report abuse

Lieberman is bucking for a cabinet position after thinking he was going to be VP. More at peoplepoliticspundits@blogspot.com

Posted by: Thomas | September 3, 2008 12:47 AM | Report abuse

Old Holy Joe - just another opportunity to drown us in his sanctimony. He's one of the more complex head-cases in American politics. He loves the idea of linking his extreme Likudist tendencies with the American Right, as if that somehow validates a foreign policy position that has created immense problems for the US. (Don't get your knickers in a twist - I'm Jewish too, just don't buy the AIPAC line.)

We all recall when McCain lashed out at Obama's criticism on the veterans benefit vote by saying he wouldn't take that kind of talk from anyone who hadn't served in the military. Holy Joe - much like The Brain In A Jar and W - never served in the military although prime candidates for that during the Vietnam experience, but John-boy doesn't seem particularly reluctant to wallow in their praise for him. I guess you get a free pass if your a Friend of John's. Nothing like the Republican logical standards - a foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds.

Posted by: zoot | September 3, 2008 12:47 AM | Report abuse

Thanks Joe for telling the Liberals how it really is.They pulled a segment of Cambell Brown on Larry King last night because of her obnoxious frustrated self asking about Palin's experience on Foriegn Affairs.A question that we all should know and a question that she doesn't even need to ask.Palin as was Clinton govenors (Whom we elected president-twice)and they don't have experience on Foriegn Affairs.Wait until tomorrow night and you will see what type of experience Sarah Palin brings to this ticket!!!

Posted by: River Rat | September 3, 2008 12:46 AM | Report abuse

Lieberman, doesn't want to vote for Black Man, he can't stand to see so much success happening for a Black Man. It is really sad. Please take a long walk off of a short pier.

Posted by: What | September 3, 2008 12:42 AM | Report abuse

I just finished reading an article about how Joe is privately giving his PAC money to Dems while publicly supporting McCain.

The issue is complex & I think Lieberman is smartly hedging his bets; Trading some capital with his party for some time on the national stage.

That said, if Obama with pres and the dems gain in the senate, Joe may find himself increasingly irrelevant. Its clear his seat is safe, but the only chance he'll have to influence the agenda is if the democrats find themselves close to 60 votes. This seems overly optimistic.

Posted by: Patrick | September 3, 2008 12:41 AM | Report abuse

America doesn't have a very strong party system compared to, say, Britain. But there has to be a line drawn somewhere.

If you consider yourself a Democrat, though you disagree with much of the platform, refrain from speaking at the Republican convention. If you choose to speak with for the Republicans, then call yourself a Republican and stir things up with the other half of your agenda.

Lieberman is going to be a headache for either of the major parties. Is it abridging his freedom of speech, or demanding too much of Republicans, that he be their headache for a while?

Posted by: anticlimacus | September 3, 2008 12:40 AM | Report abuse

Viva Joe Lieberman! He told it like it is ... and I will venture to say that many, many Reagan Democrats and Clinton Democrats were paying attention! Even Obama's speech at the Convention was empty and devoid of any real plan for this country ... just words!!

Posted by: Francisco Cardenas | September 3, 2008 12:39 AM | Report abuse

How should Dems respond?! Bye, bye.

Joe's the one with no "home". He was McCain's choice for VP but noooo, the "base" can't stomach him. Sad, but he's a going down with the party that never will vote for him.

We Dems have plenty more where Joe came from who love America first.

Posted by: jhby | September 3, 2008 12:39 AM | Report abuse

bartonizer -- I want to second everything you said. I too am a "former" repub. But this is NOT the party of Reagan. This party has been hijacked (pun intended) by the religious right. It is sickening. NOT A SINGLE WORD about fiscal conservatism.

I still can't get myself to vote dem so Bob Barr is going to be getting my vote. Maybe a 3rd party can do something in this 2 party partisan politics.

Posted by: SS | September 3, 2008 12:39 AM | Report abuse

Lie - berman sucked, his speech had not much validity, like every other republican he has decided to be a friend of the rich. Given all your supporters seem to be blind and in denial but can you really be trusted Mr. Lie-berman?

Posted by: not a REP | September 3, 2008 12:38 AM | Report abuse

Get rid of the traitor from having anything to do with Democratic party.

Posted by: TexDem | September 3, 2008 12:38 AM | Report abuse

Harry Reid says Lieberman is a reliable vote on every issue except Iraq, so the Senate Democrats won't kick him out of the caucus. The good people of Connecticut will have to take care of him.

Posted by: Richard B. | September 3, 2008 12:37 AM | Report abuse

Lie - berman sucked, his speech had not much validity, like every other republican he has decided to be a friend of the rich. Given all your supporters seem to be blind and in denial but can you really be trusted Mr. Lie-berman?

Posted by: not a REP | September 3, 2008 12:37 AM | Report abuse

...typical Republican hypocrisy; applaud Elephant Joe to his face, but behind his back they go ballistic at the mention of him as the VP...

At least they should have the decency and integrity to boo him off the stage.

Gutless hypocrites, et al.

And Lieberman hasn't done Israel any good, either, his own turncoat hypocrisy is bleeding over onto the Israelis via AIPAC.

"Beware those who say they are Jews, but are really of the synagogue of Satan.." a synagogue that might accurately be defined as the love of Money and War and Empire...

Posted by: JEP | September 3, 2008 12:37 AM | Report abuse

Joseph Lieberman is a traitor to the USA, and he should be thrown out of office.

Posted by: Douglas Stambler | September 3, 2008 12:37 AM | Report abuse

Dems hate america, raise taxes and kill babies

Posted by: Anonymous | September 3, 2008 12:36 AM | Report abuse

Joe is toast....Can't wait to see on January 1st if Joe is relagated to cleaning the Capitol urinals or wiping John-boys behind.

Posted by: :-) | September 3, 2008 12:36 AM | Report abuse

How will the dems respond?

Well, with a craven, cowardly Senate "leader" like Harry Reid, my guess is they won't make a peep.

As s dem myself, I despise the dem leadership *almost* as much as I despise the repugs.

Posted by: ccatmoon | September 3, 2008 12:33 AM | Report abuse

The election was decided last week pending the debates. Who does Palin bring to McCain's table? Just the Republican money base.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 3, 2008 12:33 AM | Report abuse

The audacity of the "Country First" theme at the RNC is appalling. After all, the pick of Sarah Palin is obviously a political calculation for winning. Almost everyone is agreement that this was a drastic chance that was taken to win the presidency in the fall-it was not a pick made for the most qualified person. If that was the case, Pawlenty or Romney would be on stage tomorrow night. In not picking the most qualified person for the office of the Vice-President of the United States, McCain is letting his country down, by choosing PARTY FIRST, not COUNTRY FIRST. I find that disturbing-a poor reflection of judgement needed to run this country. I mean, "Maverick" John McCain catering to the born-agains to the point of jeopardizing our safety as a nation? How sad.... I'm a former registered Republican, and I feel that the party has been held captive by zealots, and until it starts to genuinely care about the state of the country and ALL of it's citizens (not JUST the "religious right") more than just staying in power, I won't trust it a bit!

Posted by: bartonizer | September 3, 2008 12:32 AM | Report abuse

I am a political junkie who is voting for Obama but here is my opinion:

Lieberman doesn't matter- he may help with some votes in FL, but it is unlikely that McCain will lose FL anyway. What it does is bring some headlines to the Repubs who are otherwise a relatively boring convention (except for their unraveling vice presidential pick).

Why did Lieberman do it? He probably does really like McCain and no senator got up to vouch for how great Barak has been in the senate because he hasn't been. More importantly, when the Dems win more seats in the Senate- they may not need his vote for their caucus anymore- meaning that they won't bribe him with committeeships/etc. where the power really lies. He is looking at an exit strategy. If somehow McCain wins- he is likely Secretary of State.

Leon

Posted by: Anonymous | September 3, 2008 12:31 AM | Report abuse

"You can trust us."

Why?

"Because."

USA! USA! USA! USA!

Posted by: Republican Message of the Evening | September 3, 2008 12:31 AM | Report abuse

what's worse than listening to Republican politicians who seem to incorrectly understand issues and offer unsophisticated, simple answers to complex problems is reading comments from conservative people after articles like this one. There seems to be so much hate and irrationality, like calling Obama a Muslim or wanting all Democrats to kill themselves. It's hard for me to believe there are people like this in America, who have been so brainwashed by a lifetime of conservative propaganda. It's amazing how a lot of people seem normal but end up being far right wing nut jobs. I love my country but there are some crazy right wingers here.

Posted by: mike | September 3, 2008 12:30 AM | Report abuse

"What you can expect from John McCain as President is precisely what he has done this week," - Joe Lieberman
Oh reallllly!? Hahaha. One day he'll pop that air lock between his neck and *ss and pull his head out. Maybe not... he'll probably become a Fox News consultant.

Posted by: Rob Ex-Republican | September 3, 2008 12:30 AM | Report abuse

The Beltway power elite are desparate to demonize Palin before she speaks, as they fear that McCain/Palin will clean up the Washington corruption. Yet they are running out of time and are panicing now.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 3, 2008 12:28 AM | Report abuse

Watch the left wing pack of wolves start baying for Lieberman's blood.

Am sure we will start to see DailyKos, Huffington Post, NYT, etc... begin to run countless "stories" about Lieberman's drinking/drug use/infidelity/pedophilia/racism or fill-in-the-blank

shameful

Posted by: pgr88 | September 3, 2008 12:27 AM | Report abuse

Lieberman said:
"nor has [Obama] been willing to take on powerful interest groups in the Democratic Party."

The most powerful interest group in Washington is AIPAC, who are pushing the radical agenda of the Israeli right, with Lieberman as their staunchest supporters. Thanks for all the pro-war propaganda, and keep up the good work Mr. Warmonger!

Posted by: CitizenOfTheWorld | September 3, 2008 12:26 AM | Report abuse

Joe "I was for the Democrats before I was against them" Lieberman's last shot at retaining significance in politics was to be nominated as McCain's VP.

Now that he's not, he'll certainly be relegated after Democrats pick up a larger majority in the Senate. Good riddance.

I am embarrassed for Connecticut voters!

Posted by: William J. | September 3, 2008 12:26 AM | Report abuse

Pick apart that fascinating and well orchestrated Obama speech heard in the stadium between the huge video screens (showing Obama's special "O" symbol he uses on his plane and placards instead of the flag) inbetween the fireworks and the rock stars, and you will see that his well explained methods of solving the country's woes are BUNK. He cannot fix the economy by going through the budget "line by line." How can he NOT raise taxes? Did anyone notice he didn't mention lowering gas prices? He doesn't plan to. Oh, and during his pre-speech video, he neglected to mention that OTHER side of his family or anything about his Muslin/Indonesian roots. Wake up, America!

Posted by: logical_person | September 3, 2008 12:26 AM | Report abuse

I am voting for Maccain Palin because Palin is a women, the same way blacks are voting for Obama because he is black (half black)
BTW why is everyone who is half black called black, why are thye not called white?

Posted by: Kelly | September 3, 2008 12:25 AM | Report abuse

You want to keep 75,000 or more troops in Iraq so they can Keep Signing OIl Deals with China???

Is that what we have SACRIFICED 4,000 solidiers and over 20,000 Injured so these A-holes in Iraq can sign OIl deals with other countries?

This is Worse then NO WMDS's . THis f---- war
makes no sense. You & McBUSH want to stay 10 more years & get us in so much debt we can be just like Israel? 800% Inflation?

Hell no. I won't go and I am not sending my kids.

8 years is enough, GET OUT!!!! Obama 08

Posted by: Marshall | September 3, 2008 12:25 AM | Report abuse

Joe Lieberman is either a fish or a snake. He is so two-faced that he is now having a difficult time keeping up with his rationales for supporting one decision or another. He looks like a fool.

I feel sorry for the Democrats in Connecticut. Surely all of them that voted for him do not agree with his present positions. He has betrayed everything he has ever believed in for the plastic friendship of John McCain and a war that should never have happened. He is a deceitful soul.

Posted by: ken alford | September 3, 2008 12:24 AM | Report abuse

So Palin has more experience than Obama? As mayor of a town of 8,000, how on earth did she manage to leave it 20 million dollars in debt? Sounds to me like she may have had experience, but it was all bad.

Posted by: Jimb | September 3, 2008 12:24 AM | Report abuse

The party will respond by picking up several Senate seats in November, along with the White House. They'll probably tolerate Joe in the hallways--a vote is a vote--but they'll rarely make smalltalk with him. They'll hope he votes with them but not lose sleep when he doesn't. He'll grow more isolated than ever, probably get dumped from committee positions, stop bringing home the bacon for CT, and FINALLY get canned in the next election.

At least I hope so. He's such a brazen hypocrite to support a man whose policies in almost every case run counter to his own, on crucial issues. All so he can now claim, weakly, "The surge worked, so now we can come home with honor." So pathetic he's dug this hole for himself. We're coming home from Iraq because we managed to save face by throwing so many troops in there the civil war was postponed. Iraq is going to explode either way. Nothing has been gained for Israel except more-determined enemies. The Middle East is a conflagration waiting to happen (so we'd better get our alternative-energy plan going and FAST).

Lieberman is, in short, one sad monkey.

Posted by: Dennis | September 3, 2008 12:23 AM | Report abuse

I thought Lieberman's speech was great. Even Bush managed to be significantly more bipartisan tonight than is his wont. It was the first time in years that I've been able to listen to more than 10 minutes of a Republican convention without feeling abused.

But to a person, the speakers must have cringed inside while discussing how "well-prepared" Sarah Palin is. What a whopper.

I voted for Gore Lieberman, would have voted for Kerry McCain and would have considered McCain Lieberman. But McCain Palin? Sorry Joe -- that's not bipartisan, that's a bad joke waiting to explode on the American public. I honor Lieberman for taking a position that is so unpopular with many, but I'm going with Barrack and the other Joe for change and judgment that I trust.

Posted by: Alaine | September 3, 2008 12:23 AM | Report abuse

Liberals want to raise my taxes and move towards a planned economy. Liberals are epic failures and should STFU. Every one gets a free ride on the lib train!!!

Posted by: eiser | September 3, 2008 12:22 AM | Report abuse

"that's why the give us a patriotism pageant every four years instead of substance."

If democrats were patriotic, they might have a chance to win.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 3, 2008 12:21 AM | Report abuse

As a jew I love Joe. Obama would be the work thing that could happen to Israel

Posted by: Abe | September 3, 2008 12:20 AM | Report abuse

People are bragging about getting sloppy-second Joe to speak on their behalf? Ha. He gets brushed aside because one side doesn't want him any more, and the other tries to paint him as a brave defector. This is "You can't fire me, I quit!" on a political level. This is about as dumb as the Republicans trying to sell the McCain. The only Republican leaving if McCain is elected will be Bush. Stupid, stupid, stupid...

Posted by: UT Matt | September 3, 2008 12:20 AM | Report abuse

You must be kidding me trying to demonize Palin. No one knew who the hell she was until last week. the REPUBLICANS did'nt know who the hell she was. Mccain met her once and chose her to be VP. Please. She mentions Hilliary in all her speeches she never even met Hilliary Clinton. If this was'nt real it could be a sitcom. She cuts funding for poor teen mothers and her own daughter winds up pregnant. Just shows God hates ugly!!!

Posted by: Critic 4U | September 3, 2008 12:20 AM | Report abuse

America is not about to take a sudden left turn into the socialist swamp.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 3, 2008 12:19 AM | Report abuse

One things for sure: the Republicans won't talk about policy at all during their entire convention. The country doesn't really care for their policies and they know it. That's why the give us a patriotism pageant every four years instead of substance. Hey, it worked twice for GWB. Maybe they'll pull it off again.

Posted by: Sportin' Life | September 3, 2008 12:19 AM | Report abuse

Hey Joe - see how well this party swapping has helped Zel Miller? And doesn't it just speak volumes of one's judgement and temperment to falsely remain attached to a group even after publicly repudiating that group? Isn't that how viruses and parasites attack their hosts?

I hope you enjoy your retirement in Israel. You've earned it! And good riddance...

Posted by: Vox Populi | September 3, 2008 12:19 AM | Report abuse

How many baies have been aborted over the past 6 years as opposed to how many have died in Iraq. The babies in the womb are innocent
yes democrats are killing babies you are the fool

Posted by: Anonymous | September 3, 2008 12:19 AM | Report abuse

In JFK’s book “Profiles of Courage”, he writes about the kind of politicians that go against party lines because they feel they are elected to make hard decision and follow their beliefs about what is best for America, even when it means their political destruction. In all these cases the left or right wing of their respective parties wrote hateful comments like the ones Senator Lieberman know faces from the far left. It is clear to me that JFK, who may not agree with Senator Lieberman, would definitely put him in the category of courageous leaders.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 3, 2008 12:18 AM | Report abuse

Who is Joe Lieberman?

A Leach? Haven't heard of him doing anything substantial in Congress.

Posted by: Tony | September 3, 2008 12:18 AM | Report abuse

As a Jew, I am ashamed of Leiberman. As an American, I am ashamed that we allowed Bush to be president for two terms, and now have to contend with the current Republican ticket. 1984 is nothing compared to this! Back to the Stone Age- one way or another. I am seriously terrified that there are so many racists and right-wing nuts in this country that in 4 years it'll be unrecognizable. Please America, God- vote Obama!

Posted by: Sleepless in America | September 3, 2008 12:18 AM | Report abuse

"Country matters more than party"

Considering how much your party means to you, this doesn't really mean much at all, does it, Joe?

Posted by: thompst | September 3, 2008 12:18 AM | Report abuse

Character matters. Palin has it in spades as evidenced by her personal history. Obama and Biden, like most liberals, think character is what an actor plays.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 3, 2008 12:17 AM | Report abuse

The only reason Lieberman's still accepted by the Democrats at all is his one vote. They need it. NOW. After the election, they'll strip him of his committtee roles and throw him out on his traitorous ear.

Posted by: Jeff Miller | September 3, 2008 12:16 AM | Report abuse

MSNC is such a joke, Olberman is a legend in his own mind

Posted by: Anonymous | September 3, 2008 12:16 AM | Report abuse

Dear Joe..

We are going to PISS ON YOU after we win this election in 2008.

Better get ready to stay on the OUTSIDE, YOU WON'T be INVITED to CAUCUS ANYMORE.

Your a TurnCoat, I am sorry Nobel Prize winning AL Gore gave you the time of day...now wonder the people of Conn have nothing to do with you...

Posted by: Wood | September 3, 2008 12:16 AM | Report abuse

To anonymous, you fool. How dare you say something that stupid. Democrats want to raise taxes and kill babies. How many kids are getting killed in this war. How many futures have the republicans thrown away with the financing of this war

Posted by: Critic 4 U | September 3, 2008 12:16 AM | Report abuse

Great to hear politicians speaking the truth for once and putting their country first.

Liberals are in a state of extreme agitation awaiting the speech of Palin tomorrow, they are doing their best to demonize her, hoping that they won't see anything they might like.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 3, 2008 12:15 AM | Report abuse

Let's not forget that John McCain almost left the Republicans in the spring of 2001 to caucus with the Democrats but Vermont senator Jim Jeffords beat him to the punch. There was still talk of him leaving until 9/11 froze American politics for a year.

There are too many stories out there about how McCain almost joined Kerry in 2004 as the Democratic vice presidential nominee.

Lieberman, McCain and Graham are a third party in America.

Posted by: Meet the New Boss Same as the Old Boss | September 3, 2008 12:15 AM | Report abuse

When does Lieberman come up for defeat?

Posted by: John | September 3, 2008 12:14 AM | Report abuse

The answer is no america will not vote for a black liberal, america will not give obama the presidency

Posted by: Anonymous | September 3, 2008 12:14 AM | Report abuse

Palin can field dress a moose and fly an airplane. Biden can play a tough game of badminton and ride a train.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 3, 2008 12:14 AM | Report abuse

I think what it all comes down to is that Lieberman is a creature of his time, coming of age politically during McGovern's 1972 disastorous peacenik campaign,when the Democrats abandoned the military. He grew with the DLC as a reaction to that, that included people like Bill Clinton, but now that became eclipsed when the liberal netbloggers took back the party from the beltway crowd. What Lieberman failed to realize, was that we're JFK Democrats and we took Congress with people like former Republican Jim Webb,Bob Casey Jr., that didn't fit the litmus test from groups like NOW. We have lots of room for Joe, but Joe is like that dictator who can only have one person embody the Revolution-like Castro or Nader, and that is not what the Democrats or America are all about.

Posted by: Brian | September 3, 2008 12:13 AM | Report abuse

IT'S the war stupid. This is Mccain and his idiot of a chice for VP's whole argument. The biggest disaster in American history we will never win this dunbass war. It will just bankrupt us. I'm going to flat out say this. If Obama was a white man with his talent this would'nt even be a race. The big question is can white america vote for a black man. He is hands down the smartest of the candidates by a mile

Posted by: Critic 4u | September 3, 2008 12:13 AM | Report abuse

Democrats want to raise taxes and kill babies

Posted by: Anonymous | September 3, 2008 12:12 AM | Report abuse

Joe should be ashamed of himself. It's one thing to support who you want to support but it's another to lie about the other person. He has no honor.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 3, 2008 12:11 AM | Report abuse

wow great speeches tonight. If Palin sounds good tommmorw they've got my vote

Posted by: Anonymous | September 3, 2008 12:11 AM | Report abuse

jharding ....

"White trash" ???


had the "N" word been used on this blog we all know what would have happened.

How ' bout it Wash Post is hate speech a selective & subjective term reserved for ideologues?

Posted by: BruiserND | September 3, 2008 12:10 AM | Report abuse

No the speech doesnt have liberals squirming.
Its an average speech given as payback to the republicans for helping him win his district after he left the democrats.

Posted by: Haley | September 3, 2008 12:09 AM | Report abuse

Joe Lieberman,

Hitler would be so proud that you've morphed into a collaborator. You would have been a perfect overseer of helpless Jews. I'm sure your parents are proud of you.

Posted by: Disappoointed in Joe | September 3, 2008 12:07 AM | Report abuse

Joe thinks we should hire a republican to fix what is wrong with the country? I think that is how we got in this mess.

I for one am not buying 'vote for McCain, he's not a real Republican, he's a maverick'

Yeah right. I'm going to hire a team of Democrats to clean house.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 3, 2008 12:07 AM | Report abuse

Sen Lieberman will deliver Florida.

Governor Palin will deliver all those voters who hunt.

FRED THOMPSON ......" I think I can say without fear of contradiction she’s the only nominee in the history of either party who knows how to properly field dress a moose"

http://www.johnmccain.com/Convention/PalinVideo.htm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_vaH2BjVeA


my Vice President is going after Congressional earmarks and corruption...the left is sweating bullets


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Palin#Early_life

Posted by: rtfanning | September 3, 2008 12:06 AM | Report abuse

Yes, Sarah Palin's speech will make us all "squirm." We'll be squirming with nausea watching this bubblehead who wants to be VP -- and move her white trash family into the Vice President's house. God forbid.

I keep thinking that I will wake up tomorrow and this will be a weird dream. But no -- McCain actually did pick a woman whose biggest "executive decision" has been to keep moose out of the streets.

Posted by: jharding | September 3, 2008 12:06 AM | Report abuse

Interesting comments by Lieberman and they reflect well on McCain except if hes so good where has he been during the last 8 eight years while his party has been making such a mess.

Lets hope that McCain sums up what he will be doing to rebuild the country just as Obama outlined his plans.

Or will we get more of the beauty parade and "personal story".

PS did you know he was a POW?

Posted by: jack | September 3, 2008 12:05 AM | Report abuse

In a phrase Rebulicans will understand: Hanoi Joe

Joe Lieberman, what a putz.

Posted by: bmitch | September 3, 2008 12:05 AM | Report abuse

We Democrats in Connecticut think so highly of Joe that we elected Ned Lamont as the Democratic Candidate for Senate in 2006. Joe returned to the Senate because the Republicans here abandoned their candidate and voted for Joe.

I think we are all tired of his hypocrisy. He is no Democrat and he is no Independent. The Republicans can have him

Posted by: Mark Partin | September 3, 2008 12:04 AM | Report abuse

Most of you idiots swore up and down that whatever-his-name-was would easily knock off Bush.

Hello?

Nobody believes you clowns this time either.

I'm voting for McCain/Palin, not Obama./Binladen

Posted by: Facts | September 3, 2008 12:04 AM | Report abuse

The people of Connectucut who voted him in got the man they deserved. He needs to be removed from his leadership role by the Dems. They do not need him anymore.

By the way, if you missed the cotton candy-haired grande dame of the RNC refer to the historic nomination of Sarah PAWLENTY, you really must check out the link to see the video I posted.

http://scootmandubious.blogspot.com/2008/09/blog-post.html

Posted by: scootmandubious | September 3, 2008 12:02 AM | Report abuse

McCain and Lieberman put country first. Unfortunately that country is Israel.

Posted by: James | September 3, 2008 12:02 AM | Report abuse

a speech by the new ranking member of the Senate Homeland Security Committee.

Posted by: mitch | September 3, 2008 12:00 AM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin's speech tomorrow night will make liberal squirm even more.

Posted by: Sigmonde | September 3, 2008 12:00 AM | Report abuse

Joe needs to get into therapy as quickly as possible. Just check out the DSM-IV and read up on Narcissistic Personality Disorder.

Posted by: reporter1 | September 2, 2008 11:58 PM | Report abuse

Thanks, Joe....you make my job so much easier and to think...all it took was 30 pieces of silver! Of course, as in all my deals with you, it's ALWAYS about the money. Spend it well and I'll keep a seat nice and warm for ya!
Your pal,
Satan

Posted by: Satan | September 2, 2008 11:58 PM | Report abuse

Lieberman praises McCain as "his own man" yet McCain wanted to pick Lieberman as a running mate yet couldn't because the evangelical right wing couldn't stomach him.
They talk about "cleaning up Washington" but for six of eight years, Republicans had the house, senate and the White House! Who's been running the place?

Posted by: DFLamont | September 2, 2008 11:55 PM | Report abuse

Lieberman's speech has liberals squirming..lol

Posted by: Sigmonde | September 2, 2008 11:55 PM | Report abuse

If the democrats had not been so stupid as put that Lamont guy --has anybody heard about him lately?-- against Joe, maybe we would not be at that point. If I were Joe Liebermann, and I had to fight my own party to keep my senate seat, I would do just what he is doing. The dems have only themselves to blame

Posted by: regisurgel | September 2, 2008 11:52 PM | Report abuse

No matter how much Lieberman and his soulmate McCain try to spin it, the Iraq war will be forever remembered as one of the most disgraceful episodes in American history. Sold to Americans with deliberate lies, 4,000 American lives lost and tens of thousands more disabled, hundreds of thousands of Iraqis killed. For what reason? To make our nation less safe? Barack Obama was right, and Lieberman, McCain and Bush were wrong, criminally wrong.

Posted by: gschwartz | September 2, 2008 11:51 PM | Report abuse

Dear Joe Lieberman,

The Democratic Party didn't leave you. We fired your ass.

You didn't put country before party. You put ego before country. You put war before honesty, torture before morality, and power before liberty. Your state and your country deserve better than you.

Fortunately, you're going to become expendable after this election. Enjoy your new home in the Republican Party.... May you dig your graves together and fall into them.

Posted by: AJL | September 2, 2008 11:51 PM | Report abuse

People should read this article from the U.K. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1024927/The-wife-John-McCain-callously-left-behind.html

Even McCain's war peers think he's deceitful, opportunistic and without any decency. He claims to be a man of integrity but really, he's only about women, money and power. The only reason we don't hear about it is because the Republicans grease the media.

Posted by: Anon | September 2, 2008 11:48 PM | Report abuse

I wish you all would just say what you really mean. Obama is black and you can't accept the fact that a black man may lead your nation. It's a shame really, but not surprising considering this is America we're talking about (bigoted fascist ideologues).

Posted by: J. Lieberman | September 2, 2008 11:48 PM | Report abuse

When the Democratic party gains a majority of seats in the US Senate in November's election, they'll offer Joe Lieberman the opportunity to caucus with the Republicans. No committee positions for Joe. After all, he is the only Senator from the Likud party, is he not?

Posted by: Sasquatch | September 2, 2008 11:47 PM | Report abuse

Good speech; I am moving on like Joe. This current democrat party is enough to make anyone that has any patriotism and sense of decency to want to leave. This has turned into a party that is run by the show biz elites and people of the homosexual and bisexual persuasion who think nothing of human life.

Posted by: cliff jones | September 2, 2008 11:46 PM | Report abuse

Nah, once Obama and Biden are elected, they'll let it go. The Dems might hate him, but every vote counts in the Senate.

Besides, Lieberman is only chairman of the Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee, and chairman of some other subcommittees.

They'll let him keep those. But he's not going to get anything else, no matter his seniority.

Of course, a few elections down the line, if the Dems are looking at a 50/50 or 51/49 split again, they'll probably give him whatever he wants.

Posted by: Doug in NYC | September 2, 2008 11:45 PM | Report abuse

JEB- you can't be a supporter of the democrats and of Israel. Why do you think Joe L. is supporting McCain? He knowns that B. Hussein Obama will be no friend to Israel.

Posted by: ej | September 2, 2008 11:43 PM | Report abuse

Joe tells people how important a record is to diminish Obama. Moments later, he sings the praises of Palin. Joe is pretty much done as a Democrat, but he is a warning to both parties. Players in the middle need to be respected, their numbers will likely grow.

Of course, John McCain is nowhere near the middle and Palin is close to the farthest edge.

What bothers me most is that Joe was nearly VP in 2000. Knowing what he should know about the job, he can't honestly believe Sarah Palin is adequate. To me, that's the hyprocrisy.

Posted by: No Joe | September 2, 2008 11:43 PM | Report abuse

I very rarely respond, and am very new to this, but, Marc, your type of comments are what we DONT need here. We all may have differing viewpoints and hopefully one would think we could talk like adults!!!!!!!

Posted by: tkitzmiller | September 2, 2008 11:43 PM | Report abuse

There's nothing more repulsive than watching Lieberman kissing the butts of the GOP.

Posted by: DogBitez | September 2, 2008 11:43 PM | Report abuse

What a statement from blogger Marc 11:31 pm
You might get your wish and I've learned be careful what you wish for. Now with this group of idiots Russia, China and all of the Middle East will have no problem just walking in and taking over without firing a shot. Those fools are so stupid it's a big laugh around the world. Americans once picked the best we had to offer until 2000. We stuck our heads in the sand and allowed Bush/Cheney two terms. Now we're in a recession, weak Military and hated all over the world.

Posted by: Jackie | September 2, 2008 11:40 PM | Report abuse

Lieberman made a wonderful comment about how Obama has been in the senate for 3.5 years and has made no change at all. Nothing of significance. Zilch.

Posted by: Obama the loser | September 2, 2008 11:40 PM | Report abuse

John Lieberman is a gem. What a conscientious, selfless fellow. I wish though that he had talked about how ridiculous it is that even Sarah Palin at 44 has more executive experience than Obama. I mean what a joke that is.

Posted by: Country First | September 2, 2008 11:38 PM | Report abuse

Joe speaks Truth to Power. I admire him for his honesty and his willingness to put his beliefs above his politics.

Lieberman's reelection after his party had nominated someone else speaks volumes about the trust he holds with his constituents. It also speaks as to how WRONG the left is on Lieberman and the issues that he speaks to.

Thank You, Senator Lieberman, for your courage to step forth and speak on behalf of Senator McCain. Country First!

Posted by: JackESpratt | September 2, 2008 11:38 PM | Report abuse

Marc, you obviously are a typical simple minded republican, who does not have any intelligent thing to say and therfore like a sheep in a herd, just regrugitate what the masters of the GOP feed you...

Posted by: Anonymous | September 2, 2008 11:37 PM | Report abuse

I am a supporter of the Democrats, Obama, Biden and Israel and I think what Lieberman has and is doing is way off base. Frankly, I have been extremely disappointed in his actions. I don't think they are in the best interest of the United States and therefore cannot be in Israel's best interest either. 4 years of McCain goes against most of the issues Lieberman has supported for years. I'm disgusted with him.

Posted by: JEB | September 2, 2008 11:36 PM | Report abuse

They describe Mccain as a loose cannon and think that is a good thing???????????

Posted by: Anonymous | September 2, 2008 11:36 PM | Report abuse

Hello Joe, Satan here, now about that discussion we had several years ago...

Posted by: Satan | September 2, 2008 11:35 PM | Report abuse

Last hurrah at the end of a dying career.

Posted by: Tom Renda | September 2, 2008 11:34 PM | Report abuse

Lieberman has to be careful.

Obama is a MUSLIM and Muslims don't like Jews like Lieberman.

Posted by: Jason | September 2, 2008 11:34 PM | Report abuse

Lieberman puts Lieberman first. He'd be nothing without Gore having picked him in 2000, and this is how he pays back the party. Karma on January 21, 2009.

Posted by: DemoDevil | September 2, 2008 11:33 PM | Report abuse

What is amazing to me is that Holy Joe had the audacity to call himself a Democrat. He hasn't been a Democrat for a long, long time now.

Posted by: Len | September 2, 2008 11:32 PM | Report abuse

Wow! After listening to Joe Lieberman, I cannot understand how come McCain wasn't elected president in 2000 instead of George W.

Posted by: jake | September 2, 2008 11:32 PM | Report abuse

My God, Democrats and liberals are a sick, demented bunch! It's no wonder they've failed so miserably at getting elected throughout the past 40 years. I hope they all commit suicide when they lose in November!

Posted by: Marc | September 2, 2008 11:31 PM | Report abuse

The last straw was long ago. Lieberboob has been pro-Bush for the last 2 years at least.

Posted by: Don | September 2, 2008 11:26 PM | Report abuse

It's time to kick joe to the curb. One Zell Miller is enough. I'm sick of watching his drunk clown face make sweet noises to the democrats while sticking his trunk-wrapped dagger in their backs.

Besides, Lincoln Chaffee's position in the GOP is wide open, and we all know how the GOP respected him. I say let him get what he has earned from the other side of the aisle.

Posted by: liberally speaking | September 2, 2008 11:26 PM | Report abuse

c&d- speaking of classy, would you describe Lieberman's comments with that term?

Personally, I've never much cared for the guy. I suspect he doesn't carry much weight with the swing voters either. The likely outcome is the left-leaning blogosphere will continue to rip on lieberman, while Obama & Biden ignore him.

Posted by: bsimon | September 2, 2008 11:23 PM | Report abuse

Hey Holy Joe LIEbertoad! - Sarah Palin thinks you're going to Hell ... unless you come to her Republican Jesus.

As a Jew that kind of thinking bothers me. To say the least.

It's a disgrace that it apparently doesn't bother you, you little arse wipe

Posted by: Bush + Cheney = McCain | September 2, 2008 11:23 PM | Report abuse

Just watch the next 4,000 comments. Take a decent guy -- who, in the twisted imaginations of some would be the current VP -- and trash him repeatedly and unabashedly.

Classy.

Posted by: c&d | September 2, 2008 11:16 PM | Report abuse

Opportunist Looserman (I-Israel) has no credibility to vouch anyone. He is ONE issue politician—issue of Israel. This lying snake only supports McCain because McCain would start a war with Iran although that is not the interest of Israel. Looserman’s allegiance does not lie with America.


Posted by: Looserman DONE! | September 2, 2008 11:14 PM | Report abuse

He will be excommunicated in January. The Democrats will not get 59 or 60 seats in the Senate and will likely stall out at 57 or 58. Lieberman's vote is unnecessary at that point. He will be stripped of his committee chairmanship and clout.

And every Democratic donor will be more than happy to fund Ned Lamont for round 2 in 2012.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 2, 2008 11:12 PM | Report abuse

im very disappointed with Sen Lieberman. It's one thing to attend the RNC to announce why you support Sen McCain, but something else to attack the nominee of the party you caucus with.

Posted by: nicolas-alb | September 2, 2008 11:04 PM | Report abuse

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