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John McCain and Barack Obama debate in Oxford, Mississippi on Sept. 26. Photo by Linda Davidson of The Washington Post

The Fix is doing finger-stretching exercises and drinking protein shakes in expectation of our live twittering of tonight's second presidential debate between John McCain and Barack Obama in Nashville, Tennessee.

As we prep -- mentally and physically -- for tonight's festivities, we want to hear from the Fix community about who will win tonight and why.

A quick handicapping:

• The format is a townhall: Advantage McCain.

• The economy -- and continuing economic crisis -- is certain to be a major topic of debate: Advantage Obama.

• National and key battleground state polling shows momentum for the Democratic ticket: Advantage Obama (obviously).

• There will be no follow-up questions -- either by the audience or moderator Tom Brokaw: Advantage McCain (?).

Sound off in the comments section about who you think will emerge the winner from tonight's debate and why. We'll be back a little later today with our debate preview and then at 9 p.m. ET it's twitter time! Make sure to sign up for the Fix feed here.

By Chris Cillizza  |  October 7, 2008; 7:51 AM ET
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Sen. John McCain clearly won last night's debate.

Democrats for John McCain and Sarah Palin in 2008.

Posted by: hclark1 | October 8, 2008 11:05 AM | Report abuse

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Posted by: 37thandOStreet | October 7, 2008 7:59 PM | Report abuse


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You are pretty shameful if you are going to RISK the future of this nation on an inexperienced person whose only economic or business experience is buying cocaine.


Seriously.


You can exercise your Constitutional Vote anyway you would like however you can not escape how IRRESPONSIBLE a vote for Barry Obama is.

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Posted by: 37thandOStreet | October 7, 2008 7:51 PM | Report abuse

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DEMOCRATIC FINGERPRINTS ARE ALL OVER THIS ECONOMIC CRISIS - THE MEDIA IS ASLEEP AT THE WHEEL AGAIN


Top 3 Recipients of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac Campaign Contributions, 1989-2008


Dodd, Chris . . $165,400


Obama, Barack . . $126,349


Kerry, John . . $111,000

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Posted by: 37thandOStreet | October 7, 2008 7:37 PM | Report abuse

I made a nice video for Barack Obama at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MBrFWuKkWQ

Obama 2008. God bless USA.

Posted by: wembakoy | October 7, 2008 7:28 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: 37thandOStreet | October 7, 2008 7:03 PM | Report abuse

The format may favor John McCain. The entire spectrum of issues favor Barak Obama.

I think Barack is the better chess player. He will remain cool and consistent.

I doubt John McCain can gain enough traction to offset his Jekyl and Hyde personna, which will no doubt leave the electorate in a quandry over how he might govern.

The debate is theatre for the politically morbid, (I am included).

Larger forces than the will of candidates or campaign strategists are going to determine this election.

Posted by: foothillbill | October 7, 2008 6:39 PM | Report abuse

NEVADA ACORN OFFICE RAIDED-BREAKING NEWS

How is this not front page? It's buried!
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/10/07/acorn_nevada_offices_raided.html

Posted by: blevins20061 | October 7, 2008 6:38 PM | Report abuse

By the way, citing "Fox News" in a political argument is the equivalent of citing "Encyclopedia Britannica" during your senior year of college in a paper in the subject in which you majored.

Posted by: officermancuso | October 7, 2008 6:18 PM | Report abuse

It sure is odd, after 8 years of a Republican presidency which aggressively argued that it didn't have to answer to court or legislature, that we now hear the plea, "it was those last two years during which the Democrats controlled the legislature that did us in".

Posted by: officermancuso | October 7, 2008 6:15 PM | Report abuse

SEN. MCCAIN/GOV. PALIN/FOX NEWS NEED TO KEEP SMACKING VOTERS IN FACE WITH FACTS, SO THEY CAN WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE!!

* Sen. McCain needs to emphasize Democratic involvement in current economic problems. Don't be shy, point fingers and call names please!!!

* Emphasize points regarding Sen. Obama/Sen. Biden record and lack of ability to deal with current economic problems. Emphasize Gov. Palin/Sen. McCain record and ability to deal with current economic problems!!!!

* BTW, Fox news has been showing Democratic party involvement in current economic problems. Fox, please keep up the good work, do some more investigative shows about Dem. involvement!!!

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Posted by: 37thandOStreet | October 7, 2008 6:07 PM | Report abuse

dbw1, so you're saying, before the game begins, that you think the refs are biased, no?

In my experience, such claims normally emanate from weak teams.

Posted by: officermancuso | October 7, 2008 6:03 PM | Report abuse

fu_buki wrote:

"YES, I READ DWASHINGTON1 COMMENT.

NETHERLANDS ANTILLES"

You must be a speed reader, you got through it in an hour and 46 minutes, and you're not a native English speaker?

Greetings to the Netherlands Antilles! I'll bet there's some interesting history there.

Posted by: officermancuso | October 7, 2008 5:57 PM | Report abuse

officermancuso:
"I wouldn't be surprised to see McCain booed raucously at some point...."

And given today's news of ACORN's latest efforts to stuff the ballot box, as they have done for years including when Obama was tied at the hip with them, I wouldn't be surprised if Obama's campaign machine finds a way to stuff the audience with legions of loyal worshipers....errrr, I mean followers.....errrrr, I mean "undecideds".

It's shameful the stories being told on call-in shows around my state of Ohio right now of Democrat efforts to buy votes....I mean, 'register voters'.

Posted by: dbw1 | October 7, 2008 5:54 PM | Report abuse

YES, I READ DWASHINGTON1 COMMENT.

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Posted by: fu_buki | October 7, 2008 5:49 PM | Report abuse

If this were a baseball game, it would almost be time to send Mariano Rivera to the mound.

Posted by: officermancuso | October 7, 2008 5:49 PM | Report abuse

Remember, our beloved 'nonpartisan' press corps went out of their way to pronounce John Kerry the "clear winner" of all three debates against George Bush, and all of the mainstream media's opinion polls had John Kerry ahead 3-5 points a week before the election.

Don't underestimate the efforts of our press to spin the election every day, however they can, in favor of whichever Democrat is running. But at the end of the day hopefully the American people will likewise see through the Obama facade and media-built image that cannot stand muster, and elect who they believe is best equipped to be President....not who the press tells them they should vote for.

Posted by: dbw1 | October 7, 2008 5:46 PM | Report abuse

dwashington1, it is your kind of shrill, repetitive, long-winded, selfish, polemical commentary that screws up good political dialogue in this country. Have a little sense. Post a few sentences. Make a point or two. Then shut up and LISTEN!!! Save your diatribes for the vanity press.

Posted by: Hagglemeister | October 7, 2008 5:41 PM | Report abuse

It will be very interesting to hear crowd reaction from this Gallup-chosen audience of undecideds. I wouldn't be surprised to see McCain booed raucously at some point in response to some low blow - which would really throw him off his "town hall" stride.

Posted by: officermancuso | October 7, 2008 5:41 PM | Report abuse

McCain is being taken down by his own pit bull. He has no one to blame but himself. Oh, yeah, and Steve Schmidt.

Clear advantage to Obama, for being the grown-up.

Posted by: desertwillow | October 7, 2008 5:33 PM | Report abuse

Today Plain was egging them on as they were shouting "Terrorist" and Traitor" of Obama. It has happened to many times now. I believe it may be orchestrated by the Mccain campaign.


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curious why Palin't team did not issue an immediate comnendation of that statement. Certainly they did not condone it but they should understand how absolutely inappropriate such language is, even if it comes from an over the top supporter. That would have shown some real class which seems to be rapidly disappearing from the McCain campaign. There are just certain things like that that are beyond the bounds of human decency and should not be tolerated.

Posted by: leichtman | October 7, 2008 5:08 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: popasmoke | October 7, 2008 5:21 PM | Report abuse

curious why Palin't team did not issue an immediate comnendation of that statement. Certainly they did not condone it but they should understand how absolutely inappropriate such language is, even if it comes from an over the top supporter. That would have shown some real class which seems to be rapidly disappearing from the McCain campaign. There are just certain things like that that are beyond the bounds of human decency and should not be tolerated.

Posted by: leichtman | October 7, 2008 5:08 PM | Report abuse

SORRY TO REPOST THIS BUT IN LIGHT OF YESTERDAYS HAPPENINGS IN FLORIDA WITH PALIN IT IS JUST TO IMPORTANT.
So if you just tuned in,


Mccain's campaign now begin to function like the Nazi party. I noticed this in their convention.

" You saw that republican convention, it looked like a gathering of the Nazi party. Signs with "Country first" and all the speeches in the effect of "You are either with us or you are not real americans or patriots"
Another good quote from the Nazi's that applies to the republicans is:

Quote:
“…it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship. … All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger.”
- Hermann Goering, founder of the Gestapo and one of the main architects of Nazi Germany.
See anything familiar?

And now this just yesterday.

"Press kept under a watchful eye

CLEARWATER -- Constantly under the watchful eyes of security, the media wasn't permitted to wander around inside Coachman Park to talk to Sarah Palin supporters. When reporters tried to leave the designated press area and head toward the bleachers where the crowd was seated, an escort would dart out of nowhere and confront him or her and say, "Can I help you?'' and turn the person around.
When one reporter asked an escort, who would not give her name, why the press wasn't allowed to mingle, she said that in the past, negative things had been written. The campaign wanted to avoid that possibility Monday."
-- Times staff writer Eileen Schulte

What next, "Do you have your papers". and now the shouts in the rallies of "Kill him, Kill him" as Palin eggs them on.
These are some evil people and we can only use our imagination what kind of white house they would run. They would run the most secretive corrupt white house in history, making Bush and Cheney look like they were an open book.

Posted by: popasmoke | October 7, 2008 4:54 PM | Report abuse

dwashington1, you can't seriously believe that a soul on earth other than yourself read or will read your 4:03 comment....can you?

Posted by: officermancuso | October 7, 2008 4:51 PM | Report abuse

Obama wins. What you are looking at in the USA right now, and in this election in particular, is a perfect storm ensuring that no matter what John McCain does, it damages his case for election to the presidency.

I look for McCain to appear increasingly volatile and irritable as the debate goes on. He may also pander so transparently that Paul Tsongas rises from the grave in indignation.

Posted by: officermancuso | October 7, 2008 4:45 PM | Report abuse

Relative intelligence: Huge advantage to Obama.

Relative verbal skills: Huge advantage to Obama.

If McCain continues his all-negative-all-lies-all-smears-all-the-time approach tonight, he'll continue his nosedive in the polls tomorrow. If he tries to talk substance? He'll continue his nosedive in the polls tomorrow. Bottom line? Stick a fork in him; he's done!

Posted by: dolph924 | October 7, 2008 4:29 PM | Report abuse

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America the Beautiful United as One America.
No more divisive GOP REPUBLICAN media induced failures failures failures
No more black black black black black black black black
No more white white white white white white white white white
No more male male male male male male male male male male
No more female female female female female female female
No more Democratic Democratic Democratic Democratic Democratic
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No more divisive WALL STREET Obscene Super-capitalistic greedy Media lies
No more Obscene Super-capitalistic sending American jobs overseas to GOP REPUBLICAN sweatshops
We must stop this GOP REPUBLICAN hate media (Wacko Bill Meltdown O’Reilly, Newsmax, O’Reilly Racist Factor, FOX News, Obscene Super-racist Sean Hannity, Glen Beck, The New Yorker) induced division and hatred

Europe and the World are watching our 2008 Presidential Election to see if we act in dignity and grace or revert back to our penal American colonial, cannibalistic and dumping grounds for old world criminals way. The daughters of the American Revolution quoted the last words spoken to their European ancestors were, For your crimes you will hang from the neck or given the opportunity to take your chances in the New World American Penal Colony.

We will either unite as ONE United States of America World leader or come in second to the expanding European Union.

McBush said Mission Accomplish seven years ago. Now Super Greedy Rich Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire is saying Mission Accomplish to more failures. Perhaps America should dissolve the defunct GOP REPUBLICAN Party for decades of failures and ruins. The World would welcome such progress. Mission Accomplish.

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AN AMERICAN STORY


Irish-American Barack Obama of Harvard Law is a United States Senator from Illinois and nominee of the Democratic Party in the 2008 presidential election.

A graduate of Columbia University and Harvard Law School, where he served as president of the Harvard Law Review, Obama worked as a community organizer and practiced as a civil rights attorney before serving in the Illinois Senate from 1997 to 2004. He taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School from 1992 to 2004.

Obama delivered the keynote address at the Democratic National Convention in July 2004. He was elected to the Senate in November 2004 with 70% of the vote.

As a member of the Democratic minority in the 109th Congress, he helped create legislation to control conventional weapons and to promote greater public accountability in the use of federal funds.

He also made official trips to Eastern Europe, the Middle East, and Africa.

During the 110th Congress, he helped create legislation regarding lobbying and electoral fraud, climate change, nuclear terrorism, and care for returned U.S. military personnel.

After announcing his presidential campaign in February 2007, Obama emphasized withdrawing American troops from Iraq, energy independence, decreasing the influence of lobbyists, and promoting universal health care as top national priorities.

It is wonderful that the World loves America under the leadership of Irish-American Barack Obama of Harvard Law and looks forward to cooperating with America again in friendship, peace and economics.

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Harvard Scholar Beats Navy McCain in Intellectual Debates

Navy Super Greedy Rich Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire Requests Dictionary During Debates With Harvard Scholar Obama of Harvard Law

Harvard Scholar Obama Intellectually Defeats Navy Super Greedy Rich Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III

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GERMANY, FRANCE, BRITAIN HAVE SOUND ECONOMIC SYSTEMS AND SHOULD ADVISE AMERICA, BECAUSE GOP REPUBLICAN DEREGULATED WALL STREET WILD SPECULATIONS AND FRAUD HAVE NEVER BENEFITED THE AMERICAN PEOPLE

GERMANY ADMIRES HARVARD SCHOLAR AND PRESIDENT IRISH-AMERICAN BARACK OBAMA

AS THE WORLD’S MOST LITERATE COUNTRY, GERMANY IS MOST INFORMED

GERMANY LOVES HARVARD SCHOLAR BARACK OBAMA

FRIENDSHIP FOREVER BETWEEN AMERICA AND GERMANY

International Court of Justice (The Hague) Wish To Speak With McBush, Cheney, Rice, Super Greedy Rich Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire in January for War Crimes.

GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET Get Rich By Selling America Party started the illegal Iraq War. Now the GOP REPUBLICAN s are totally obligated to immediately stop the illegal Iraq War.

Mumbles Super Greedy Rich Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire came into conflict with higher-ranking personnel and did not always obey the rules, which contributed to a very low class rank (894 of 899) that he did not aim to improve. Super Greedy Rich Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire earned a reputation as a partying man. The planes he was flying crashed twice and once collided with power lines.

GOP REPUBLICAN McSame, McBush, Cheney, and Rice are paying themselves and their Obscene Super Rich OOIIILLLL friends millions of Treasury dollars in bonuses as Average Americans suffer and watch their children future decline. GOP REPUBLICAN s have caused trillions of dollar debts outsourcing Our Country to China, Saudi Arabia and India. I see nothing patriotic about GOP REPUBLICAN s destroying the lives of millions of Americans in the name of WALL STREET Obscene Super Rich speculative greed.

GOP REPUBLICAN Super Greedy Rich Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush Have Many Many Many Crisis To Answer For

Super Greedy Rich Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III

Trillion Dollar Treasury Robbing War Crisis
Trillion Dollar Deficit Crisis (Disgrace)
Democracy Crisis
American People Crisis
U.S. Constitution Crisis
Barrel of OOIIILLLL Crisis (Democrat $24 changed to GOP REPUBLICAN $145)
Gallon of Gasoline Crisis (Democrat $1.25 changed to GOP REPUBLICAN $4.50)
WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Speculation Crisis
WALL STREET Obscene Super-capitalism cannibalistic Crisis
WALL STREET selling America to Saudi Arabia Crisis
WALL STREET selling America to India Crisis
WALL STREET selling America to China Crisis
Iraq War Crisis
Iran Crisis
North Korea Crisis
Relations with China Crisis
Healthcare Crisis
U.S. Economics Crisis
U.S. Employment Crisis
Out Sourcing American Jobs Crisis
Auto Industry Crisis
Airline Industry Crisis
Travel Crisis
Flood Levee Crisis
Energy Crisis
WALL STREET Tax Haven Rich Tax Avoidance Crisis
CEO and Employees Wage Gap Crisis
Lack of Employees’ Rights Crisis
2000 Election False Vote Count Crisis
2004 Election False Vote Count Crisis
Dubious War on Drugs Crisis (American are using crack)
Education Crisis
School Shooting Crisis
GOP REPUBLICAN Drug Money Laundering Crisis
GOP REPUBLICAN Drug Cartel Kickbacks Crisis
Prime Time Soft Pornography Crisis
GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET Mad Cow Crisis
Poison Water Crisis
Poison Air Crisis
Poison Agriculture Crisis (Asia won’t accept our food)
GOP REPUBLICAN Treasury Robbery Crisis
American People Lack Confidence in Government Crisis
World Chaos Crisis
Food Price Crisis
Global Warming Crisis
Disasters in America Crisis
Katrina Crisis
Racist Talk Radio Crisis
Racist Bill O’Reilly, Fox News, Sean Hannity, Glen Beck, The New Yorker Crisis
Housing Crisis
U.S. Dollar Crisis
Deceptive GOP REPUBLICAN Administration Crisis
Negative World Perception Crisis
Illegal Iraq War Crisis (Hague Trial of Bush, Cheney, Rice, McCain, Palin Failin)
Illegal Iraq War Crisis (Hague Trial of Bush, Cheney, Rice, McCain, Palin Failin)
Illegal Iraq War Crisis (Hague Trial of Bush, Cheney, Rice, McCain, Palin Failin)
Corporate Welfare Robbing the US Treasury (American People)
WALL STREET selling American Big Banks to foreign billionaires Crisis giving foreign sweatshop billionaires direct votes in Our Economy, Way of Life and Government.

Super Greedy Rich Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III For Trying To Destroy Our Democracy and Economy

The Multiple Crisis that are hurting OUR COUNTRY are the fault of the Administration, Supreme Court, Congress and especially the GOP REPUBLICAN Party for allowing GOP REPUBLICAN International War Suspects McBush, Cheney, and Rice to lie, cheat and steal their way into the Highest Office on Earth and remain there for eight years. The Entire World thinks that America was ridiculous for allowing GOP REPUBLICAN criminals and scoundrels to steal their way into office not once but twice. If you locked three Rock Wellers in a jewelry shop for eight years without supervision, what would you expect upon returning? Why are Americans surprised that the three scoundrels McBush, Cheney, and Rice have smashed up the place and almost destroyed America in eight years? You should have expected bad things from those criminals eight years ago and stopped them back then. Instead of stopping the trillion dollar criminals, the media (Wacko Bill Meltdown O’Reilly, Newsmax, O’Reilly Racist Factor, FOX News, Super-racist Sean Hannity, Glen Beck, The New Yorker) went after the Dixie Chicks, Paris Hilton, Rosie O’Donnel, and Britney Spears. How stupid.

Now the media (Wacko Bill Meltdown O’Reilly, Newsmax, O’Reilly Racist Factor, FOX News, Super-racist Sean Hannity, Glen Beck, The New Yorker) pursues Boy George, because he might be a threat. What an incredibly stupid, stupid, and racist media we have.

The World is watching and laughing at our stupid media and defunct WALL STREET robber barons greedy selfish shortsighted failed Supercapitalistic system. Since when does the prerequisite for becoming the President includes being a poor military academy student, out of action POW, computer illiterate, senior citizen and husband of a recovering drug addict / thief / criminal?

Super Greedy Rich Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire is qualified to be a former POW and Mrs. McThief is qualified to be a recovering drug addict. What a pair and example for our youth.

Sarah Palin Failin OOOOIIIIILLLLLL Commissioner OOOOIIIIILLLLLL Commissioner OOOOIIIIILLLLLL Commissioners the North Pole trailer lady will not help our country as vice president.

Force the GOP REPUBLICAN s to fix their gigantic GOP REPUBLICAN Supercapitalism mess or dissolve the defunct and failing GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET Get Rich By Selling America Party.

The defunct GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET Get Rich By Selling America Party started the illegal Iraq War against the objection of Most Americans and the Entire World. Now the GOP REPUBLICAN s are obligated to immediately stop this illegal Iraq War; involve Europe in the peace keeping / rebuilding task; and face the International Court of Justice (The Hague) on charges of War Crimes.

Irish-American Barack Obama of Harvard Law takes the high road, while Super Greedy Rich Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire and Sarah Trailer Palin Failin OOOOIIIIILLLLLL Commissioner OOOOIIIIILLLLLL Commissioner OOOOIIIIILLLLLL Commissioner swim in the OIL sewer.


GOP REPUBLICAN Failures Reagan was an idiot.
GOP REPUBLICAN Failures Bush I and idiot sidekick Quayle accomplished nothing.


Democratic Success Bill Clinton Balanced the Budget
Democratic Success Bill Clinton maintained a barrel of OOIIILLLL at $24
Democratic Success Bill Clinton maintained a gallon of gasoline at $1.50
Democratic Success Bill Clinton achieved an excellent US relationship with the World


GOP REPUBLICAN Failures Bush II attacks the US Constitution and steals elections from the American People
GOP REPUBLICAN Failures Bush II attacks the United Nations and declares an illegal war against an innocent country Iraq
GOP REPUBLICAN Failures Bush II smuggles criminal Saudi Arabian friends of the Bush out of the country who were key figures in the attack against our country
GOP REPUBLICAN Failures Bush II speculates with his millionaire OOIIILLLL criminal WALL STREET friends to illegally raise a barrel of OOIIILLLL from $24 to $145
GOP REPUBLICAN Failures Bush II speculates with his millionaire OOIIILLLL criminal WALL STREET friends to illegally raise a gallon of gasoline from $1.50 to $4.50
GOP REPUBLICAN Failures Bush II illegally starts wire tapping citizens, torturing prisoners, and attacking Mexican-American workers (who are the backbone of American labor)
GOP REPUBLICAN Failures Bush II tarnishes America’s good name with the World
GOP REPUBLICAN Failures Bush II is perceived as a villain to the World
GOP REPUBLICAN Failures Bush II, Cheney, and Rice War Crimes questioning by The Hague
GOP REPUBLICAN Failures Super Greedy Rich Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire is owned by millionaire OOIIILLLL criminals and will continue the Bush policies of failures

AMERICA belongs to AMERICANS and not to greedy GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET criminals speculating away our children’s future.


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GOD BLESS AMERICA OUR HOME. Harvard Scholar Irish-American Barack Obama.

Americans are too smart to fall for diabolical divisive GOP REPUBLICAN tricks.
Leave out divisive hate mongering (race, gender, religion).

Barack

Focus on the ECONOMY, HOMES, IRAQ WAR, OOIIILLLL, ENERGY, FAMILY, MORALITY, INTERNATIONAL FRIENDSHIP, AND ONE AMERCA.

Irish-American Barack Obama of Harvard Law has a wonderful, loving, intelligent and spiritual family with high morals. This is exactly what is expected of the First Family.

Return Democratic Values to the White House and get rid of GOP REPUBLICAN Get Rich Quick By Selling America to Foreigners and Robbing the US Treasury.

GOP REPUBLICAN U.S. Treasury Raiders Must Stop Now
GOP REPUBLICAN U.S. Treasury Raiders Must Stop Now
GOP REPUBLICAN U.S. Treasury Raiders Must Stop Now


GOP REPUBLICAN Super Greedy Rich Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush entered the White House Seven Years Ago with OOIIILLLL at $24 a barrel.
GOP REPUBLICAN Super Greedy Rich Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush entered the White House Seven Years Ago with OOIIILLLL at $24 a barrel.
GOP REPUBLICAN Super Greedy Rich Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush entered the White House Seven Years Ago with OOIIILLLL at $24 a barrel.


Americans, Europeans and the World are under the impression that Rich GOP REPUBLICAN s are pathological and thieves. And they are right. False statements, cheating and undermining Democratic values are GOP REPUBLICAN tools to hurt mankind in their selfish destructive quest to own and control this beautiful World that’s temporarily enjoyed by all.

GOP REPUBLICAN Failures Super Greedy Rich Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush must answer to the fact that a barrel of OOIIILLLL was $24 when McBush took office and now a barrel of OOIIILLLL is $145. GOP REPUBLICAN rich OOIIILLLL conspiracy has undermined the American People and Our Economy in their quest for selfish, destructive and greedy ill gotten Obscene Super-capitalistic WALL STREET gains.

Super Greedy Rich Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush seven years ago changed a barrel of OOIIILLLL from $24 into today’s Obscene Super-capitalistic greedy out of control $145.

Will the American people sit on their hands and allow Super Greedy Rich Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush continued out of control WALL STREET Obscene Supercapitalistic greed to raise a barrel of OOIIILLLL to $200?

The price of OOIIILLLL is a national emergency. OOIIILLLL should be immediately nationalized for United States national defense.

GOP REPUBLICAN Failures Super Greedy Rich Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush within seven years changed a $24 barrel of OOIIILLLL into a $145 barrel of OOIIILLLL.

Were the GOP REPUBLICAN Failures Super Greedy Rich Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush serving the American People or serving their Obscene Super-rich friends when they help change the price of a barrel of OOIIILLLL from $24 to $145 in just seven years?

It’s time to Nationalize U.S. OOIIILLLL and the Energy Industries for National Defense.

300,000,000 Americans come first when it comes to the greatest benefits to the greatest number. When one percent of the population (Obscene Super rich), owns and runs everything to the destruction of the ninety nine percent (typical Americans), then something must change. Super Greedy Rich Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush represents greed and destruction that must stop.

If you love America, then you should inspire the American People to rise higher and HOPE for better days.

America is HOPEFUL and GREAT and will follow the HOPEFUL and inspirational message of Harvard Scholar Irish-American Barack Obama of Harvard Law.

This is the greatest presidential race in history, because Harvard Scholar Irish-American Barack Obama of Harvard Law is flying like an eagle.

GOD BLESS AMERICA OUR HOME. Harvard Scholar Irish-American Barack Obama.

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Irish-American Barack Obama of Harvard Law loves America and the troops.

Irish-American Barack Obama of Harvard Law will work with the international community to end the Iraq War in 2009.

Irish-American Barack Obama of Harvard Law will bring American troops home in 2009 and reward them with benefits for homes, college, medical care, and jobs.

American troops are overwhelmingly voting for Irish-American Barack Obama of Harvard Law


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EUROPE, CHINA, RUSSIA, SAUDI ARABIA, AND SOUTH AMERICA ARE WATCHING YOU


THE WORLD IS WATCHING AMERICA’S 2008 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION.
THE WORLD IS WATCHING AMERICA’S 2008 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION.
THE WORLD IS WATCHING AMERICA’S 2008 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION.


AND THE WORLD WILL JUDGE WHETHER AMERICA IS SUITED TO BE ITS MORAL LEADER.
AND THE WORLD WILL JUDGE WHETHER AMERICA IS SUITED TO BE ITS MORAL LEADER.
AND THE WORLD WILL JUDGE WHETHER AMERICA IS SUITED TO BE ITS MORAL LEADER.

London, Paris, Berlin, Moscow, Madrid, Rome, Tokyo, Peking, and the other capitals all look forward to cooperating with President Irish-American Barack Obama of Harvard Law.

Super Greedy Rich Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush policies of failures are afraid to stand on stage with Harvard Scholar Irish-American Barack Obama.

Mumbles Super Greedy Rich Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush petitioned to have a dictionary close by to keep up with Irish-American Barack Obama of Harvard Law’s intellectual discourse.

Super Greedy Rich Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire’s public insults towards his own wife and McBush’s public insults towards the AMERICAN PEOPLE have precluded them from moral judgment upon the World. Super Greedy Rich Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush and Sarah trailer Palin Failin OOOOIIIIILLLLLL Commissioner OOOOIIIIILLLLLL Commissioner lack moral and intellectual credibility to sit in judgment of the World and serve the AMERICAN PEOPLE.

AMERICA is voting in an intellectual scholar from Harvard Law to right OUR COUNTRY and prosecute the criminal Obscene Super-capitalists.

The World is watching how a self professed Christian Moral Nation handles its pivotal point in history during the 2008 presidential election.

Will AMERICA rise to the occasion with maturity, dignity, intellect and grace?

Or will AMERICA degenerate into the GOP REPUBLICAN ’s Policy of Hate?

Will GOP REPUBLICAN s again toss evil words of hate to OUR PUBLIC and promote a filthy campaign worthy of pre-WWII Germany?

This is a pivotal time in AMERICAN history.

Will AMERICA run a dignified 2008 presidential election?

Or will AMERICA allow Hillbillies to take over the media and orchestrate the message of hate that will shock the watching World?

A barrel of OOIIILLLL was $24 when McBush took office.

It's time for AMERICA to nationalize OOIIILLLL and Energy Industries for National Defense.

Rich OOIIILLLL billionaires and WALL STREET (Obscene Super-capitalism) selling out Our Country the United States of AMERICA for their own selfish profits is unpatriotic and treason.

AMERICA belongs to AMERICANS and not to WALL STREET sell-out Obscene Super-capitalists who send trillions of OUR U.S. DOLLARS overseas in chase of the highest immediate return on their private investments. Greed does not work and greed is destroying OUR COUNTRY. Dependence on foreign OOIIILLLL and OOIIILLLL billionaire businessmen are destroying OUR COUNTRY.

Immediately nationalize OOIIILLLL and energy industries for U.S. National Defense. It’s the intelligent thing to do. AMERICANS are collectively much more important than a handful of billionaire Obscene Super-capitalists on WALL STREET who have allegiance to no one, but their own private, selfish, destructive, and nation undermining capital gains.

McCentury McSame (McBush Part III) wants to continue McBush's failed policies.

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GOP REPUBLICAN SUPER GREEDY RICH LOBBYIST MCCAIN WALL STREET OOIIILLLL MILLIONAIRE-MCBUSH HOODWINKED AMERICA

Super Greedy Rich Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush (policies of failures) has a lot to answer for:

War fought on the premise of uprooting weapons of mass destruction that were never found,

The failure to catch Osama Bin Laden,

Super Greedy Rich Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush Disgraceful proclamation “mission accomplish”

Super Greedy Rich Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush assumption that we would be greeted as liberators and not invaders

Super Greedy Rich Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush invasion of our white house (America house)

Turning Iran into the "greatest beneficiary" of the Iraq war

Manipulating the price of OOIIILLLL from $24.00 a barrel to $145.00 a barrel. whose interest are they lobbying for? Super Greedy Rich Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush policies are not in America’s interest.

Plans to keep American troops in Iraq for 100 years

Plans to initiate the draft to secure enough troops

These are just a few of Super Greedy Rich Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush policies of failures that must stop.


AMERICA needs change now in a better direction.

Harvard Scholar Irish-American Barack Obama of Harvard Law will demonstrate how Super Greedy Rich Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush has hurt OUR COUNTRY.

The World is watching how a self professed Christian Moral Nation handles its pivotal point in history during the 2008 presidential election.

Europe is looking forward to renewing friendship and cooperation with the United States through President Irish-American Barack Obama of Harvard Law.

The overwhelming majority of American soldiers are voting for Irish-American Barack Obama of Harvard Law

The World is Watching one America.

United Sates of America

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GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET SUPER RICH SPECULATION TRILLION DOLLAR FRAUD / TREASON AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE

GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET SUPER RICH ROB U.S. TREASURY AND AMERICAN PEOPLE

MIDDLE CLASS AMERICANS ARE BECOMING POOR, BECAUSE GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET SUPER RICH HAVE STOLEN OUR NATIONALTREASURY WEALTH THROUGH FRAUD SPECULATIONS

GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET Super Rich Are Emptying Our National Treasury To Give Each Other $10 Million Dollars Bonuses Every Year While Outsourcing Our American Jobs To Foreign Sweatshops. GOP REPUBLICAN s lobby for no regulations to steal the United States National Wealth from the American People. This is not GOP REPUBLICAN patriotism in the least, but treason.

GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET Super Rich giving each other multi-billion dollar unsecured loans backed only by a handshake or slap on the back during golf outings and drink parties. Our United States Treasury emptied by these GOP REPUBLICAN s every year in exchange for Annual Mammoth National Debt forced upon the American People to pay.

GOP REPUBLICAN McCentury Super Greedy Rich Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire is a weak nominee who lacks the intelligence to receive the 3:00 am call.

Americans are tired of corruption from McBush and his Obscenely Super Rich WALL STREET Robber Barons.

Stop Corporate Welfare.

Stop CEO Welfare.

Stop Millionaire Welfare.

Stop the rich from outsourcing American jobs.

Stop giving Golden Parachutes to the Rich for outsourcing American jobs.

Stop the Rich from using Our Public Offices for Private Ill Gotten Gains.

Stop the Rich from stealing Our National Treasury.

Stop the Rich from robbing Our National Treasury and raising the National debt.

Stop the Rich from Tax Avoidance and Tax Havens.

Stop the Rich from importing illegal drugs by the ton and destroying Our Country in the name of
WALL STREET high returns on investment.

Stop the Rich from eroding Our Constitutional Rights.

Stop the Rich (McBush, Cheney, Rice, Super Greedy Rich Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire) from selling Our America to Saudi Arabia, China, India) in the name of outsourcing American jobs, selling American Banks, selling bulk shares of key American corporations.

Nationalize the American OOIIILLLL Industry for National Defense, if you love America.
America is not for sale now or ever.

Obscenely Super Rich Capitalistic privileged C students with no business running hotdog stands illegally place themselves, their rich friends, and their rich family members into the highest positions of OUR COUNTRY to maintain, promote, and expand their ill gotten wealth at the expense of Average Americans. Do you still think that lieing GOP REPUBLICAN s are patriots? I think not.

Greed and stupidity are destroying Our Country and it must stop.

America must get back to moral decency, family values, respect, honor, scholarship, and service to the general Public.

America is about Public Service and not private greed.

Change is happening and America, Europe and the World welcome cooperation.

Out with GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET Robber Barons.

In with the U.S. Constitution and the American People.
We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

We The People Are Voting For Harvard Scholar, Irish-American, and Constitution Law Professor Barack Obama.


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SUPER GREEDY RICH LOBBYIST MCCAIN WALL STREET OOIIILLLL MILLIONAIRE-MCBUSH AND THE INTERNATIONAL COURT OF JUSTICE (THE HAGUE) WILL HOLD MCBUSH, CHENEY AND RICE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE ILLEGAL IRAQ WAR

The American People Have Been MCCAINED, HOODWINKED, BUSHWHACKED By the GOP REPUBLICAN LOBBYISTS PARTY OF

The GOP REPUBLICAN Party has sold its soul in exchange for private WALL STREET gains that have sent trillions of Our U.S. dollars overseas to sweatshops and tax havens at the expense of the American People. This blindly overzealous Las Vegas gambling style GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET greed, which is selling to the highest bidder Our Beautiful Country must stop. America doesn’t belong to the greedy GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET Banks. Our Beautiful America belongs with Americans. It’s time to get that straight.

The OOIIILLLL Crisis is a National Emergency that must be immediately Nationalized for National Defense. America must be saved by the American People. We’ve learned that America cannot rely on irresponsibly greedy GOP REPUBLICAN s WALL STREET Banks that have no loyalty to the American People. The greedy GOP REPUBLICAN s are outsourcing American jobs to overseas sweatshops and sending trillions of Our U.S. dollars to overseas tax haven. These greedy GOP REPUBLICAN acts are giving foreign governments and private billionaires a direct say and ownership in Our Country. The GOP REPUBLICAN s are not patriots, but destroyers of the American Dream. We the People must take back Our Beautiful America Now.

International Court of Justice (The Hague) will question Super Greedy Rich Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush-Cheney-Rice in January about their involvement in the Iraq War.

A long-delayed Senate committee report endorsed by Democrats and some GOP REPUBLICAN s concluded that President McBush and his aides built the public case for war against Iraq by exaggerating available intelligence and by ignoring disagreements among spy agencies about Iraq’s weapons programs and Saddam Hussein’s links to Al Qaeda.

The report was released after years of partisan squabbling, and it represented the close of five years of investigations by the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence into the use, abuse and faulty assessments of intelligence leading to the invasion of Iraq in March 2003.

That some McBush administration claims about the Iraqi threat turned out to be false is hardly new. But the report, based on a detailed review of public statements by Mr. McBush and other officials, was the most comprehensive effort to date to assess whether policy makers systematically painted a more dire picture about Iraq than was justified by the available intelligence.

The 170-page report accuses Mr. McBush, Vice President Dick Cheney and other top officials of repeatedly overstating the Iraqi threat in the emotional aftermath of the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.

In a statement accompanying the report the president and his advisers undertook a relentless public campaign in the aftermath of the attacks to use the war against Al Qaeda as a justification for overthrowing Saddam Hussein.

The report on the prewar statements found that on some important issues, most notably on what was believed to be Iraq’s nuclear, biological and chemical weapons programs, the public statements from Mr. McBush, Mr. Cheney and other senior officials were substantiated. The administration statements did not reflect the intelligence agencies’ uncertainties about the evidence or the disputes among them.

In a separate report the intelligence committee provided new details about a series of clandestine meetings in Rome and Paris between Pentagon officials and Iranian dissidents in 2001 and 2003. The meetings included discussions about possible covert actions to destabilize the government in Tehran, and were used by the Pentagon officials to glean information about rivalries in Iran and what was thought to be an Iranian hit team intending to attack American troops in Afghanistan.

The report criticized the meetings as ill advised and keeping the State Department and intelligence agencies in the dark about the meetings, which the report portrayed as part of a rogue intelligence operation.

The two reports were the final parts of the committee’s so-called Phase 2 investigation of prewar intelligence on Iraq and related issues. The first phase of the inquiry, begun in the summer of 2003 and completed in July 2004, identified grave faults in the C.I.A.’s analysis of the threat posed by Mr. Hussein.

The report on Iraq was especially critical of statements by the president and vice president linking Iraq to Al Qaeda and raising the possibility that Mr. Hussein might supply the terrorist group with unconventional weapons. Representing to the American people that the two had an operational partnership and posed a single, indistinguishable threat was fundamentally misleading and led the nation to war on false premises.

GOP REPUBLICAN s on the committee sharply dissented from the report’s findings and suggested that the investigation was a partisan smoke screen to obscure the real story: that the C.I.A. failed the McBush administration by delivering intelligence assessments to policy makers that have since been discredited.

The report about the McBush administration’s public statements offers some new details about the intelligence information that was available to policy makers as they built a case for war. For instance, in September 2002 the defense secretary told the Senate Armed Services Committee that the Iraq problem cannot be solved by airstrikes alone, because Iraqi chemical and biological weapons were so deeply buried that they could not be penetrated by American bombs.

Two months later, however, the National Intelligence Council wrote an assessment concluding that the Iraqi underground weapons facilities identified by the intelligence agencies are vulnerable to conventional, precision-guided, penetrating munitions because they are not deeply buried.

Congress had never been told about the National Intelligence Council’s assessment.

International Court of Justice (The Hague in Europe) will question Super Greedy Rich Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush-Cheney-Rice in January about their involvement in the Iraq War.

The OOIIILLLL Crisis is a National Emergency that must be immediately Nationalized for National Defense. America must be saved by the American People. We’ve learned that America cannot rely on irresponsibly greedy GOP REPUBLICAN s WALL STREET Banks that have no loyalty to the American People. The greedy GOP REPUBLICAN s are outsourcing American jobs to overseas sweatshops and sending trillions of Our U.S. dollars to overseas tax haven. These greedy GOP REPUBLICAN acts are giving foreign governments and private billionaires a direct say and ownership in Our Country. The GOP REPUBLICAN s are not patriots, but destroyers of the American Dream. We the People must take back Our Beautiful America Now.

The American People Have Been Super Greedy Rich Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaireed-McBushed-Hoodwinked-Bushwhacked By the GOP REPUBLICAN Lobbyists and Party of .

America will restore it’s Constitution and closely regulate Criminal WALL STREET GOP REPUBLICAN s.

Your choice between a Harvard Law Scholar Obama or Computer Illiterate Super Greedy Rich Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire


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PRESIDENT OBAMA OF HARVARD LAW PREDICTED TO HEAL AMERICA AND THE WORLD

The match-up between John Super Greedy Rich Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire and Irish-American Barack Obama of Harvard Law is close in nationwide surveys in the United States, but around the World it's no contest: Obama of Harvard Law prevails.

A survey of 24 nations taken by the Pew Global Attitudes Project finds high levels of interest in the U.S. presidential election and broad optimism that American foreign policy "will change for the better" after the inauguration of a new president next year.

In 21 of the 23 foreign countries, those polled express more faith in Obama of Harvard Law than in Super Greedy Rich Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire to "do the right thing regarding World affairs." In the other two nations, Pakistan and Jordan, neither inspires much confidence.

"Obama of Harvard Law obviously has an appeal that has crossed the waters," says Andrew Kohut, who directs the Pew project. "Some of it may have to do with his being associated with opposition to the war in Iraq, which is consistent with views of people around the World. Some of it may have to do with his charismatic qualities and the fact that he's different than the typical American presidential candidate."

Among the findings:

•Interest is high. Japanese are even more likely than Americans to say they are following the election closely. At least of half of those surveyed in Germany, Australia, Jordan and Britain say they are paying attention. In most of the nations surveyed, a third or more are tuning in.

•Optimism about a new president is broad. About two-thirds of those surveyed in France, Spain, Germany, Nigeria, South Africa and Tanzania predict U.S. foreign policy will improve after the inauguration. In 20 of 24 nations, more say U.S. foreign policy will change for the better than for the worse.

•Obama of Harvard Law is heavily favored. In 21 of 23 countries, more people have faith in the Illinois senator than in Super Greedy Rich Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire to "do the right thing" in foreign affairs. The two contenders were essentially tied in the United States and Jordan.

In most countries, Obama of Harvard Law is also more trusted than Super Greedy Rich Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire. The contrast was particular steep in Europe, where McBush made his farewell presidential tour. In France, where he visits Friday, 13% say they have "a lot" or some confidence in McBush to do the right thing. Six times as many, 84%, say that of Obama of Harvard Law.

If the best the GOP REPUBLICAN Get Rich By Selling America Party can do is Bush and Super Greedy Rich Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire, then the GOP REPUBLICAN Party should be dissolved.

Your choice between Harvard Law Scholar Irish-American Barack Obama or Computer Illiterate C Student GOP REPUBLICAN Sell America For A Quick Profit Super Greedy Rich Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire.

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United States Constitution - We the people of the United States


Democrat $24 barrel of OOIIILLLL

DEMOCRAT $1.50 A GALLON OF GASOLINE


OOIIILLLL was $24 a barrel when Democrats left office


A gallon of gasoline was $1.50 when Democrats left office


GOP REPUBLICAN s took office to change OOIIILLLL to $145 a barrel

GOP REPUBLICAN s took office to change gasoline to $4.50 a gallon


GOP REPUBLICAN $145 barrel of OOIIILLLL


A gallon of gasoline is $4.50 under the GOP REPUBLICAN s

Rising OOIIILLLL Prices Swell Profits at Exxon and Shell

You do the math and decide if Texas OOIIILLLL millionaires warrant investigations to protect the American people.


BUSH, CHENEY, RICE, AND SUPER GREEDY RICH LOBBYIST MCCAIN WALL STREET OOIIILLLL MILLIONAIRES


Aren’t there LAWS against defrauding the American People (US Constitution), robbing the US Treasury, and using US Government Offices for private gains?

GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET Conspiracy to defraud the American People and steal from the United States Treasury.


GOP REPUBLICAN abusive power and blind greed run amok to transfer the American economy into the private capitalistic pockets of the Obscene Super rich who own and run WALL STREET.


GOP REPUBLICAN s are manipulating the market system to make the many (95 percent of American citizens) suffer and serve the Obscene Superwealthy few (5 percent WALL STREET Obscene Supercapitalists).


GOP REPUBLICAN s Super Greedy Rich Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III Trillion Dollar War Crisis


GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET MILLIONAIRES ARE PAYING THEMSELVES $10,000,000 BONUSES FROM MONEY STOLEN FROM THE UNITED STATES TREASURY, WHILE SENDING OUR AMERCAN JOBS OVERSEAS. RECKLESS OUTSOURCING IS DESTROYING AMERICAN MANUFACTURING AND THE AMERICAN ECONOMY.


No more GOP REPUBLICAN lies, conspiracies, and grand larcenies.


GOP REPUBLICAN $155 barrel of OOIIILLLL speculations
GOP REPUBLICAN $175 barrel of OOIIILLLL speculations
GOP REPUBLICAN $195 barrel of OOIIILLLL speculations
GOP REPUBLICAN $215 barrel of OOIIILLLL speculations
GOP REPUBLICAN $235 barrel of OOIIILLLL speculations
GOP REPUBLICAN $255 barrel of OOIIILLLL speculations


GOP REPUBLICAN $4.50 a Gallon Gasoline speculations
GOP REPUBLICAN $5.00 a Gallon Gasoline speculations
GOP REPUBLICAN $5.50 a Gallon Gasoline speculations
GOP REPUBLICAN $6.00 a Gallon Gasoline speculations
GOP REPUBLICAN $6.50 a Gallon Gasoline speculations
GOP REPUBLICAN $7.00 a Gallon Gasoline speculations


When does it stop if ever?


GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET Greed Speculation does not work.
GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET Greed Speculation is hurting America.
GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET Greed Speculation is hurting Our Constitutional Rights.


Stop GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET OOIIILLLL speculations today


GOP REPUBLICAN OOIIILLLL addiction has become the new crack drug and we better get off soon


GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET MILLIONAIRES ARE PAYING THEMSELVES $10,000,000 BONUSES FROM MONEY STOLEN FROM THE UNITED STATES TREASURY, WHILE SENDING OUR AMERCAN JOBS OVERSEAS. RECKLESS AMERICAN JOB OUTSOURCING IS DESTROYING AMERICAN MANUFACTURING AND THE AMERICAN ECONOMY.


Nationalize U.S. OOIIILLLL For National Defense.
Nationalize U.S. OOIIILLLL For National Defense.
Nationalize U.S. OOIIILLLL For National Defense.


Clean nuclear electric energy is the answer. USA partnership with France will produce clean abundant Nuclear Fusion electricity. Eighty percent of French electricity is produce through nuclear energy. USA will learn nuclear production of clean energy.

Over 35 percent of France’s total energy requirement and over 78 percent of French electricity demands are met by nuclear energy. In 1999, France generated 375 billion kWh of electricity from its fifty-eight pressurized water reactors currently in operation. The electrical generation capacity of these plants is 65,702 MWe. France also operates one fast reactor, which generates 250 MWe of energy.

Because of their large operation capacity, the French also export energy, mainly to the rest of Europe, roughly 72.1 TWh per year. This large amount of energy generation allows France to be more energy self-sufficient than most European countries. In fact, France is over 50 percent able to meet its own energy needs, an incredibly large percentage for a modernized, western country. In comparison, Italy is only 18 percent energy self-sufficient. This was one of the goals of the French Nuclear program, to decrease French dependence on foreign energy sources.

The French national energy company, Electricite¢ de France (EDF) runs France’s nuclear power plants. The EDF was created in 1946 to alleviate the energy shortage that occurred just after World War II. In the 1950s the EDF provided France with the energy to modernize itself into an industrial power. However like most energy corporations, the EDF relied heavily on hydrocarbon generation up until the first OOIIILLLL CRISIS occurred. Then it was decided that the EDF should pursue NUCLEAR ENERGY TO REDUCE FRENCH DEPENDENCE ON FOREIGN ENERGY.


We the people of the United States.


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WHY A BARREL OF OOIIILLLL ROSE FROM $24 TO $145 WHEN GOP REPUBLICAN OOIIILLLL MILLIONAIRES BUSH, CHENEY, RICE, AND SUPER GREEDY RICH LOBBYIST MCCAIN WALL STREET OOIIILLLL MILLIONAIRES TOOK OVER


GOP REPUBLICAN Get Rich By Selling America And Using Our Public Office For Private Gains Is Treason against the American People. Big OOIIILLLL inside trading millionaires Bush, Cheney, Rice, and Super Greedy Rich Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire will answer for war crimes.

The White House connection to Big OOIIILLLL goes too far. Now Chevron's OOIIILLLL tanker named Condoleezza Rice is too much OOIIILLLL conspiracy in the face of the American people.

The double-hulled OOIIILLLL giant, Condoleezza Rice, is part of the international OOIIILLLL tanker fleet of the San Francisco-based multinational OOIIILLLL firm, named several years ago Rice because she is a Chevron OOIIILLLL board member and stockholder.

Rice serves on Chevron's OOIIILLLL board and Bush Administration.

Far too cozy relationship among multinational energy giants, Bush and his key advisers -- including Vice President Dick Cheney and Rice.

There's never been an administration in power in this country that has been so close to a single industry, the OOIIILLLL-and-gas industry.

You wonder why a barrel of OOIIILLLL rose from $24 to $145 when OOIIILLLL millionaires Bush, Cheney, Rice took over. You wonder why a gallon of gasoline rose from $1.50 to $4.50 when OOIIILLLL millionaires Bush, Cheney, Rice took over.

Public Integrity raised the issue of the OOIIILLLL tanker's moniker. Look at the president and his background, the vice president (executive at Halliburton), (Commerce Secretary) Don Evans and his OOIIILLLL interests . . . and now this."

Rice closeness to a major OOIIILLLL company. It's not every day that someone has an OOIIILLLL tanker named after her.

Bush specifically request the Condoleezza Rice OOIIILLLL tanker be given a name change -- particularly since Chevron OOIIILLLL does business on six continents and 25 countries, and has been sued for human rights abuses in Nigeria.

The Center for Constitutional Rights filed suit in U.S. District Court in San Francisco, charging Chevron OOIIILLLL aided Nigerian police in attacks on local communities protesting Chevron OOIIILLLL production activities.

The Rice OOIIILLLL tanker came up at the White House briefing in connection with the incident in Nigeria.

Chevron OOIIILLLL giant has no intention of renaming the Condoleezza Rice and noted that board member Carla Hills also had a Chevron OOIIILLLL tanker named in her honor before she was appointed former President George Bush's trade secretary -- and the vessel has kept the name.

Naming OOIIILLLL tankers after members of the OOIIILLLL board of directors.

Rice's office did not return repeated phone calls, but she told Fox TV that she has no regrets regarding her Chevron OOIIILLLL ties and huge WALL STREET OOIIILLLL profits. Big OOIIILLLL has been good to me.

Rice and the White House decisions directly involving Chevron OOIIILLLL. Condi Rice is dealing with issues that are enormous interest to Chevron OOIIILLLL. From a public relations standpoint, they're desperately hoping this is one OOIIILLLL tanker that doesn't run aground. That could be a major problem.


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IRISH-AMERICAN BARACK OBAMA OF HARVARD LAW WILL bring back our United States Constitution and Rights of the American people. Who is better to save the country than an Ivy League United States Constitution Law professor who loves his country more than GOP REPUBLICAN s love ill gotten WALL STREET speculation money.


GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET MILLIONAIRES ARE PAYING THEMSELVES $10,000,000 BONUSES FROM MONEY STOLEN FROM THE UNITED STATES TREASURY, WHILE SENDING OUR AMERCAN JOBS OVERSEAS. RECKLESS OUTSOURCING IS DESTROYING AMERICAN MANUFACTURING AND THE AMERICAN ECONOMY.


Stop GOP REPUBLICAN Super Greedy Rich Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire from selling our America.


This remarkable unleashing of deep Democratic energies went hand in hand with clever GOP REPUBLICAN efforts to subvert the will of the American People, whether by overt corruption or covert manipulation. This corruption or manipulation resulted from the widespread market activity that was incompatible with the good of the American Public. American Citizens were well aware that the voices of the People could be offset by powerful GOP REPUBLICAN market elites bending the system to serve the interests of the few. The economic power of the GOP REPUBLICAN s was recognized to be the primary source of WALL STREET speculators’ corruptions.

Democratic dialogue was motivated by opposition to the market–driven greedy GOP REPUBLICAN s obsessed with obscene quantity of moneymaking with little regard for the quality of the Public’s Democracy. Democratic love of wisdom was contrasted sharply against the GOP REPUBLICAN s love of money.

Impeach the defunct GOP REPUBLICAN Party of WALL STREET Obscene Super Rich Thieves for milking our country the way wolves milk cows. America deserves intelligent and honest leadership demonstrated by scholars who love America, Americans and Our Freedom. America the Beautiful belongs to All Americans and will no longer be the plaything for WALL STREET Obscene Super Rich GOP REPUBLICAN s wolves.


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INTERNATIONAL COURT OF JUSTICE (THE HAGUE) WISHES TO SPEAK WITH MCBUSH, CHENEY, RICE, SUPER GREEDY RICH LOBBYIST MCCAIN WALL STREET OOIIILLLL MILLIONAIRE IN JANUARY FOR WAR CRIMES.

GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET Get Rich By Selling America Party started the illegal Iraq War. Now the GOP REPUBLICAN s are totally obligated to immediately stop the illegal Iraq War.

Mumbles Super Greedy Rich Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire came into conflict with higher-ranking personnel and did not always obey the rules, which contributed to a very low class rank (894 of 899) that he did not aim to improve. Super Greedy Rich Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire earned a reputation as a partying man. The planes he was flying crashed twice and once collided with power lines.

McSame Poor Military Record / McWife Former Criminal Drug Addict

GOP REPUBLICAN John Super Greedy Rich Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire (McBush III) is a weak candidate, but that does not give him the excuse to publicly insult his wife who is a recovering drug addict.

In 1989, Cindy Super Greedy Rich Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire became addicted to opioid painkillers such as Percocet and Vicodin, which she initially took to alleviate pain following two spinal surgeries for ruptured discs and to ease emotional stress during the Keating Five scandal, which involved her as a bookkeeper who had difficulty finding receipts.

The addiction progressed to where she resorted to stealing drugs from her own AVMT. During 1992, Tom Gosinski, the director of government and international affairs for AVMT, discovered her drug theft.

Subsequently in 1992, her parents staged an intervention to force her to get help; she told her husband about her problem, attended a drug treatment facility, began outpatient sessions, and ended her three years of active addiction.

In January 1993, Super Greedy Rich Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire terminated Gosinski's employment on grounds of budgetary reasons. In spring 1993, Gosinski tipped off the Drug Enforcement Administration to investigate Super Greedy Rich Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire's drug theft, and a federal investigation ensued.

Super Greedy Rich Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire's defense team, led by Washington lawyer John Dowd, secured an agreement with the U.S. Attorney's office that limited her punishment to financial restitution and enrollment in a diversion program, without any public disclosure.

Meanwhile, in early 1994 Gosinski filed a wrongful termination lawsuit against Super Greedy Rich Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire, which he told her he would settle for $250,000. In April 1994, Dowd requested that Maricopa County officials investigate Gosinski for extortion. The Phoenix New Times was about to publish a negatively-cast article about the whole affair.

Cindy Super Greedy Rich Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire pre-empted this by publicly revealing her past addiction, stating she hoped it would give fellow drug addicts courage in their struggles: "Although my conduct did not result in compromising any missions of AVMT, my actions were wrong, and I regret them."

A flurry of press attention followed, including charges by Gosinski that she had asked him to lie concerning her drug use when the Super Greedy Rich Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaires were applying to adopt their baby from Bangladesh and statements by past AVMT employees that Gosinski had once threatened to blackmail her.

The Arizona Republic published an editorial cartoon ridiculing the motivations for her AVMT work and an award dinner in her honor was canceled citing poor ticket sales. In the end, both Gosinski's lawsuit and the extortion investigation against him were dropped.

AVMT concluded its activities in 1995. That year, Super Greedy Rich Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire founded a new organization, the Hensley Family Foundation, which donates monies towards children's programs in Arizona and nationally, and she was largely a stay-at-home mom during the balance of the 1990s. She also held positions as vice president, director, and vice chair of Hensley & Co.

It is difficult to protect the country with McSame who graduated last in his war college and last on the battlefield. You cannot protect the country while spending your career as a prisoner.

Basically, McSame is qualified to be a prisoner and his McWife a recovering drug counselor.

Irish-American Barack Obama of Harvard Law takes the high road, while Super Greedy Rich Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire swims in the sewer.


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Racial profile raids violate our Constitutional Rights and must be stopped immediately. American industries rely heavily upon Latin workers and must protect them and American industries from these violations. These workers are productive and vital members of our society and must be protected.

If someone commits a crime and is picked up by the authority, then by all means check his/her status. Destructive people should be checked and separated from society.

Pulling a racial profile raid (telling workers to get off the roof and stand in line, because they have brown skin) is a violation of our Constitutional Rights.

Raiding a Latin birthday party and telling everyone to line up is a violation of our Constitutional Rights.

Raiding an Indian wedding and telling everyone to line up is a violation of our Constitutional Rights.

Going after law breakers and checking their status are correct actions.
Patrolling the borders to maintain America's safety from smugglers is the right thing to do.
Prosecuting WALL STREET bankers for drug money laundry is the right thing to do.
Prosecuting owners and executives of container ships bringing illegal drugs by the tons is the right thing to do.
Prosecuting WALL STREET price fixers, market manipulators and destructive speculators is the right thing to do.

Going after innocent productive members of society, because they have brown skin is a violation of our Constitutional Rights.

Americans have grown so fat, lazy and addicted that if you asked them to cook their own food; watch their own kids; clean their own homes; wash their own clothes; build their own homes; landscape their own yards; pick their own food; or repair their own cars; then they would faint.


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Democrats left office with gasoline at $1.50 a gallon and OOIIILLLL at $24 a barrel.

GOP REPUBLICAN takes office and raises gasoline to $4.50 a gallon and OOIIILLLL to $145 a barrel.

Which group loves America and which group loves money by any means?

Irish-American Barack Obama of Harvard Law takes the high road, while Super Greedy Rich Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire swims in the sewer.

GOP REPUBLICAN MCBUSH TAX BREAK FOR THE OBSCENE SUPER RICH
Let's call this trillion-dollar giveaway what it is - the Paris Hilton Tax Break. It's about giving billions of dollars to billionaire heirs and heiresses at a time when American taxpayers just can't afford it.

The REPUBLICAN s have brought out the Paris Hilton Tax Break in June because they're eager to make it an election issue in November.

And I think that's fine. In fact, I'm eager for the American people to choose. Because if people want their government to spend one trillion dollars - an amount more than double what we've spent on Iraq, Afghanistan, and the War on Terror combined - on tax breaks for multimillionaires and multibillionaires, than the GOP REPUBLICAN Get Rich Quick By Selling America and Robbing the US Treasury is your party.

If the American people want to borrow billions more from the Chinese, spend billions more in taxes to pay the interest on our debt, and watch billions cut from health care and education and Gulf Coast Reconstruction, then the Paris Hilton Tax Break is your tax break

Irish-American Barack Obama of Harvard Law takes the high road, while Super Greedy Rich Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire swims in the sewer.


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GROWING FOREIGN STAKE IN U.S. BANKS AND OUTRAGEOUS OOIIILLLL PRICES COMPROMISE OUR NATIONAL SECURITY

GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET Speculators Selling America To High Bidding Foreign Governments and Billionaires Compromises Our National Security

The nation's biggest financial firms, battered by huge losses in their mortgage businesses, are relying on an enigmatic source for cash: foreign governments in the Middle East and Asia.

Citigroup sold a 7.8 percent stake in the company worth $14.5 billion to a group of investors, including the government of Singapore and Saudi Prince Alwaleed bin Talal, as it revealed a colossal $10 billion loss. Merrill Lynch reported a massive loss, said that it sold a special class of stock worth $6.6 billion to funds managed by South Korea and Kuwait.

U.S. Banks have sought help from foreign government investment pools, known as sovereign wealth funds.

The worsening credit crunch in the United States has left domestic financial institutions with little choice but to seek help from foreign governments that have been enriched by the surge in the price of OOIIILLLL and the trade gap between the United States and Asia.

Once satisfied with holding safe bonds such as U.S. Treasurys, these countries now are stockpiling some of the largest investment funds in history and are looking for bargains in the ailing U.S. financial sector. Sovereign wealth funds have invested more than $40 billion in WALL STREET's biggest names, including UBS, Morgan Stanley and Bear Stearns.

The rapid rise of these funds represents a fundamental shift in financial power away from the United States. And their growing clout is causing concern on Capitol Hill.

"As investments by sovereign wealth funds in American companies increase and the specter of control and undue influence by government entities looms. "We should be keeping a watchful eye on these investments as they increase in size and scope."

A major issue for lawmakers is the transparency of these funds. Some, like Norway's, which has $350 billion, are upfront about their activities. Others, such as the Abu Dhabi Investment Authority's $875 billion fund, which is the World's largest, are more secretive.

Sovereign wealth funds recently have preferred to make passive investments that do not allow them to have any say in management decisions.

They don't want to worry the markets. "But you have to ask the question: 'What do they really want?' And that's the mystery behind these funds, we don't know who runs them."

Lawmakers reacted strongly against a Dubai firm that wanted to buy U.S. seaports in 2006 and a state-run Chinese firm that tried to take over a U.S. OOIIILLLL company in 2005. But since those incidents, sovereign wealth fund managers have become more savvy in their dealings with Congress by hiring lobbyists and by keeping their stakes low enough that they don't trigger reviews by regulators.

Little furor erupted last summer when Dubai paid $825 million for U.S. clothing retailer Barneys New York in June and followed with a 19.9 percent stake in the NASDAQ Stock Market.

The greater concern is the economic weakness that has eroded the power of the U.S. banking system.

GOP REPUBLICAN on the Senate Banking Committee, has asked the Government Accountability Office to study the emergence of sovereign funds. GOP REPUBLICAN recognizes the important role that foreign direct investment plays in the U.S. economy, and he welcomes such investment though it compromises our national security.

About two dozen countries have established sovereign wealth funds, including Libya, Iran, the United Arab Emirates and Australia. While precise data about these funds are difficult to obtain, GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET analysts agree that their value Worldwide has reached $2 trillion and is likely to grow at least fivefold by 2012.

Notable funds include Norway's, which is viewed as a model of transparency and governance. Its managers have been actively advising several nations, including East Timor, Bolivia, Nigeria and Russia, which are starting funds. The Kuwait Investment Authority, a longtime investor in Chrysler, and the Abu Dhabi Investment Authority are also respected for their acumen and size.

China's source of money is its trade surplus with the United States and other countries. In the past, China poured much of its surplus of $1.3 trillion into U.S. Treasurys. Now it is seeking higher returns and a more diversified investment strategy. On Sept. 29, it took $200 billion from its surplus and launched a sovereign wealth fund. One of the fund's first moves was to invest $3 billion into one of GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET's biggest names, private-equity giant Blackstone.

Sovereign funds' activity has demonstrated that they are primarily focused on maximizing profit by any means. They are not investing in the United States as "a goodwill gesture, but they are not doing it as foreign policy either -- they are doing it to make obscene quantity of money at the American taxpayer (U.S. Treasury) expense.”

What Are the Consequences of a Government Bailout?

Paying for GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET Losses:
A bailout would potentially put taxpayers on the hook for billions to offset Fannie's and Freddie's losses.

National Debt
It would most likely make it more expensive for the United States government to borrow money in the future, since the government's potential obligations, which currently stand at $9 trillion, would rise by an additional $5 trillion.

Investors Suffer
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AMERICA AND EUROPE LOVES PRESIDENT IRISH-AMERICAN BARACK OBAMA OF HARVARD LAW

Irish-American Barack Obama of Harvard Law bolsters his foreign policy credentials back home with trips to Germany, Britain, France, and the Middle East. The most visible and symbolically important stop was Berlin, where he gave a major address in front of 200,000 adoring friends of the next American president. He received the warmest welcome in history reminiscent of President John F. Kennedy’s legendary visit and “Ich bin ein Berliner” speech in 1963.

Obama of Harvard Law is viewed in Germany as the next Kennedy, and he is linking his theme of a generational change in leadership to Kennedy’s appeal for the torch to be passed to a new generation.

The expectations in Europe are sky-high. Obama of Harvard Law has the confidence of 84 percent of the French, 82 percent of the Germans and 74 percent of the Brits.

First, Obama of Harvard Law is not President Bush, and he is not a REPUBLICAN . This is seen as a great plus by most Europeans, especially Germans, because Europeans do not like GOP REPUBLICAN s Bush or Super Greedy Rich Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire.

For Europeans, Bush represents a militaristic approach to international affairs, compounded by bad manners (unilateralism) and a naive and reckless engagement with an un-American World. Like most Americans, Europeans believe the Iraq war was a major mistake and a violation of international law. This has damaged the image both of American competence and of America as a democracy that respects international law and civil liberties. The Hague will question Bush, Cheney, Rice and Super Greedy Rich Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire in January about War Crimes. Super Greedy Rich Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire is seen as Bush’s third term of incompetence.

Obama of Harvard Law’s appeal goes beyond the fact that he is not Bush. He, and many of his foreign policy advisers, are of a younger generation shaped by the post-Cold War era. In addition, he has lived outside the U.S. and is able to see how the country is viewed by non-Americans. This makes him better equipped to deal with a new transatlantic relationship, forged not by the East-West conflict but by the challenges of globalization. Kennedy spoke in a divided Berlin and thought of Germany and Europe as the pivot in the struggle with the Soviet Union. Obama of Harvard Law will speak to Berliners, many of whom were born after the wall fell, and to a Europe that is an indispensable partner in dealing with such non-European challenges as global terrorism, energy and climate security, and the proliferation of nuclear weapons. He will be thinking of Afghanistan and the Middle East rather than of Berlin or even the Balkans.

In this sense, he can connect to his audience and to the leaders of Europe, most of whom are closer in age and outlook to him than they are to the elderly Super Greedy Rich Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire. And Obama of Harvard Law looks like the new America, with its racial diversity and openness to new groups. This alone will transform the image of Bush’s America among most Europeans.

In addition, Obama of Harvard Law is cool and Super Greedy Rich Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire is hot, and Europeans prefer cool. He is unflappable, while Super Greedy Rich Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire’s temper is legendary. And he is willing to deal with the World as it is and to live with the messiness this implies, including dealing with some unpleasant characters. This is very much a European approach, something Super Greedy Rich Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire regards as appeasement and acceptance of evil. Obama of Harvard Law is soft power, while Super Greedy Rich Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire comes across as a military man who is only too willing to resort to force or the threat of force.

Obama of Harvard Law understands the limits of American power in a post-Iraq-war World, and this is an assessment that is shared by many European leaders. Super Greedy Rich Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire talks of never surrendering in Iraq and of the continuing primacy of American power. This rhetoric plays better on the American campaign trail than it does with Europeans, who think such concepts are as archaic as Super Greedy Rich Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire’s confessed non-use of the Internet (computer illiterate).

The REPUBLICAN s have been trying to take this disadvantage and turn it into a plus for Super Greedy Rich Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire by arguing, as they did successfully against John F. Kerry, that Obama of Harvard Law is too European. Mitt Romney took up this theme last week, saying, “I do think that, frankly, Irish-American Barack Obama of Harvard Law looks toward Europe for a lot of his inspiration. Due to GOP REPUBLICAN ures, two-thirds of Americans believe the U.S. is less respected in the World today than it has been in the past. The poll also found that 60 percent of REPUBLICAN s felt this way, with 43 percent of GOP supporters regarding it as a major problem.

If Obama of Harvard Law is sworn in as president next January, there will be a major political climate change in transatlantic relations — in the direction of a welcome warming on both sides.

The conditions are ripe for a major improvement and transformation of transatlantic relations. The atmosphere will improve and the upside of an Obama of Harvard Law victory would clearly be greater.

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UNITED STATES AND THE WORLD.

My mother was born in the heartland of America and my father grew up in Kenya.

At the height of the Cold War, my father decided that his yearning and dream required the freedom and opportunity promised by the West. So he wrote letter after letter to universities all across America until somebody answered his prayer for a better life.

That is why I’m here. And you are here because you too know that yearning. This city knows the dream of freedom. And you know that the only reason we stand here tonight is because men and women from both of our nations came together to work, struggle and sacrifice for that better life.

Ours is a partnership that truly began sixty years ago this summer, on the day when the first American plane touched down at Templehof.

On that day, much of this continent still lay in ruin. The rubble of this city had yet to be built into a wall. The Soviet shadow had swept across Eastern Europe, while in the West, America, Britain, and France took stock of their losses, and pondered how the World might be remade.

This is where the two sides met. And on the twenty-fourth of June, 1948, the Communists chose to blockade the western part of the city. They cut off food and supplies to more than two million Germans in an effort to extinguish the last flame of freedom in Berlin.

The size of our forces was no match for the much larger Soviet Army. And yet retreat would have allowed Communism to march across Europe. Where the last war had ended, another World War could have easily begun. All that stood in the way was Berlin.

And that’s when the airlift began – when the largest and most unlikely rescue in history brought food and hope to the people of this city.

The odds were stacked against success. In the winter, a heavy fog filled the sky above, and many planes were forced to turn back without dropping off the needed supplies. The streets where we stand were filled with hungry families who had no comfort from the cold.

But in the darkest hours, the people of Berlin kept the flame of hope burning. The people of Berlin refused to give up. And on one fall day, hundreds of thousands of Berliners came here, to the Tiergarten, and heard the city’s mayor implore the World not to give up on freedom. “There is only one possibility,” he said. “For us to stand together united until this battle is won…The people of Berlin have spoken. We have done our duty, and we will keep on doing our duty. People of the World: now do your duty…People of the World, look at Berlin!”
People of the World – look at Berlin!

Look at Berlin, where Germans and Americans learned to work together and trust each other less than three years after facing each other on the field of battle.

Look at Berlin, where the determination of a people met the generosity of the Marshall Plan and created a German miracle; where a victory over tyranny gave rise to NATO, the greatest alliance ever formed to defend our common security.

Look at Berlin, where the bullet holes in the buildings and the somber stones and pillars near the Brandenburg Gate insist that we never forget our common humanity.

People of the World – look at Berlin, where a wall came down, a continent came together, and history proved that there is no challenge too great for a World that stands as one.

Sixty years after the airlift, we are called upon again. History has led us to a new crossroad, with new promise and new peril. When you, the German people, tore down that wall – a wall that divided East and West; freedom and tyranny; fear and hope – walls came tumbling down around the World. From Kiev to Cape Town, prison camps were closed, and the doors of democracy were opened. Markets opened too, and the spread of information and technology reduced barriers to opportunity and prosperity. While the 20th century taught us that we share a common destiny, the 21st has revealed a World more intertwined than at any time in human history.

The fall of the Berlin Wall brought new hope. But that very closeness has given rise to new dangers – dangers that cannot be contained within the borders of a country or by the distance of an ocean.

The terrorists of September 11th plotted in Hamburg and trained in Kandahar and Karachi before killing thousands from all over the Globe on American sOOIIILLLL.

As we speak, cars in Boston and factories in Beijing are melting the ice caps in the Arctic, shrinking coastlines in the Atlantic, and bringing drought to farms from Kansas to Kenya.
Poorly secured nuclear material in the former Soviet Union, or secrets from a scientist in Pakistan could help build a bomb that detonates in Paris. The poppies in Afghanistan become the heroin in Berlin. The poverty and violence in Somalia breeds the terror of tomorrow. The genocide in Darfur shames the conscience of us all.

In this new World, such dangerous currents have swept along faster than our efforts to contain them. That is why we cannot afford to be divided. No one nation, no matter how large or powerful, can defeat such challenges alone. None of us can deny these threats, or escape responsibility in meeting them. Yet, in the absence of Soviet tanks and a terrible wall, it has become easy to forget this truth. And if we’re honest with each other, we know that sometimes, on both sides of the Atlantic, we have drifted apart, and forgotten our shared destiny.

In Europe, the view that America is part of what has gone wrong in our World, rather than a force to help make it right, has become all too common. In America, there are voices that deride and deny the importance of Europe’s role in our security and our future. Both views miss the truth – that Europeans today are bearing new burdens and taking more responsibility in critical parts of the World; and that just as American bases built in the last century still help to defend the security of this continent, so does our country still sacrifice greatly for freedom around the Globe.

Yes, there have been differences between America and Europe. No doubt, there will be differences in the future. But the burdens of Global citizenship continue to bind us together. A change of leadership in Washington will not lift this burden. In this new century, Americans and Europeans alike will be required to do more – not less. Partnership and cooperation among nations is not a choice; it is the one way, the only way, to protect our common security and advance our common humanity.

That is why the greatest danger of all is to allow new walls to divide us from one another. The walls between old allies on either side of the Atlantic cannot stand. The walls between the countries with the most and those with the least cannot stand. The walls between races and tribes; natives and immigrants; Christian and Muslim and Jew cannot stand. These now are the walls we must tear down.

We know they have fallen before. After centuries of strife, the people of Europe have formed a Union of promise and prosperity. Here, at the base of a column built to mark victory in war, we meet in the center of a Europe at peace. Not only have walls come down in Berlin, but they have come down in Belfast, where Protestant and Catholic found a way to live together; in the Balkans, where our Atlantic alliance ended wars and brought savage war criminals to justice; and in South Africa, where the struggle of a courageous people defeated apartheid.

So history reminds us that walls can be torn down. But the task is never easy. True partnership and true progress requires constant work and sustained sacrifice. They require sharing the burdens of development and diplomacy; of progress and peace. They require allies who will listen to each other, learn from each other and, most of all, trust each other.

That is why America cannot turn inward. That is why Europe cannot turn inward. America has no better partner than Europe. Now is the time to build new bridges across the Globe as strong as the one that bound us across the Atlantic. Now is the time to join together, through constant cooperation, strong institutions, shared sacrifice, and a Global commitment to progress, to meet the challenges of the 21st century. It was this spirit that led airlift planes to appear in the sky above our heads, and people to assemble where we stand today. And this is the moment when our nations – and all nations – must summon that spirit anew.

This is the moment when we must defeat terror and dry up the well of extremism that supports it. This threat is real and we cannot shrink from our responsibility to combat it. If we could create NATO to face down the Soviet Union, we can join in a new and Global partnership to dismantle the networks that have struck in Madrid and Amman; in London and Bali; in Washington and New York. If we could win a battle of ideas against the communists, we can stand with the vast majority of Muslims who reject the extremism that leads to hate instead of hope.

This is the moment when we must renew our resolve to rout the terrorists who threaten our security in Afghanistan, and the traffickers who sell drugs on your streets. No one welcomes war. I recognize the enormous difficulties in Afghanistan. But my country and yours have a stake in seeing that NATO’s first mission beyond Europe’s borders is a success. For the people of
Afghanistan, and for our shared security, the work must be done. America cannot do this alone.

The Afghan people need our troops and your troops; our support and your support to defeat the Taliban and al Qaeda, to develop their economy, and to help them rebuild their nation. We have too much at stake to turn back now.

This is the moment when we must renew the goal of a World without nuclear weapons. The two Obscene Superpowers that faced each other across the wall of this city came too close too often to destroying all we have built and all that we love. With that wall gone, we need not stand idly by and watch the further spread of the deadly atom. It is time to secure all loose nuclear materials; to stop the spread of nuclear weapons; and to reduce the arsenals from another era. This is the moment to begin the work of seeking the peace of a World without nuclear weapons.

This is the moment when every nation in Europe must have the chance to choose its own tomorrow free from the shadows of yesterday. In this century, we need a strong European Union that deepens the security and prosperity of this continent, while extending a hand abroad. In this century – in this city of all cities – we must reject the Cold War mind-set of the past, and resolve to work with Russia when we can, to stand up for our values when we must, and to seek a partnership that extends across this entire continent.

This is the moment when we must build on the wealth that open markets have created, and share its benefits more equitably. Trade has been a cornerstone of our growth and Global development. But we will not be able to sustain this growth if it favors the few, and not the many. Together, we must forge trade that truly rewards the work that creates wealth, with meaningful protections for our people and our Planet. This is the moment for trade that is free and fair for all.

This is the moment we must help answer the call for a new dawn in the Middle East. My country must stand with yours and with Europe in sending a direct message to Iran that it must abandon its nuclear ambitions. We must support the Lebanese who have marched and bled for democracy, and the Israelis and Palestinians who seek a secure and lasting peace. And despite past differences, this is the moment when the World should support the millions of Iraqis who seek to rebuild their lives, even as we pass responsibility to the Iraqi government and finally bring this war to a close.

This is the moment when we must come together to save this Planet. Let us resolve that we will not leave our children a World where the oceans rise and famine spreads and terrible storms devastate our lands. Let us resolve that all nations – including my own – will act with the same seriousness of purpose as has your nation, and reduce the carbon we send into our atmosphere. This is the moment to give our children back their future. This is the moment to stand as one.

And this is the moment when we must give hope to those left behind in a Globalized World. We must remember that the Cold War born in this city was not a battle for land or treasure. Sixty years ago, the planes that flew over Berlin did not drop bombs; instead they delivered food, and coal, and candy to grateful children. And in that show of solidarity, those pilots won more than a military victory. They won hearts and minds; love and loyalty and trust – not just from the people in this city, but from all those who heard the story of what they did here.

Now the World will watch and remember what we do here – what we do with this moment. Will we extend our hand to the people in the forgotten corners of this World who yearn for lives marked by dignity and opportunity; by security and justice? Will we lift the child in Bangladesh from poverty, shelter the refugee in Chad, and banish the scourge of AIDS in our time?

Will we stand for the human rights of the dissident in Burma, the blogger in Iran, or the voter in Zimbabwe? Will we give meaning to the words “never again” in Darfur?

Will we acknowledge that there is no more powerful example than the one each of our nations projects to the World? Will we reject torture and stand for the rule of law? Will we welcome immigrants from different lands, and shun discrimination against those who don’t look like us or worship like we do, and keep the promise of equality and opportunity for all of our people?
People of Berlin – people of the World – this is our moment. This is our time.

I know my country has not perfected itself. At times, we’ve struggled to keep the promise of liberty and equality for all of our people. We’ve made our share of mistakes, and there are times when our actions around the World have not lived up to our best intentions.

But I also know how much I love America. I know that for more than two centuries, we have strived – at great cost and great sacrifice – to form a more perfect union; to seek, with other nations, a more hopeful World. Our allegiance has never been to any particular tribe or kingdom – indeed, every language is spoken in our country; every culture has left its imprint on ours; every point of view is expressed in our public squares. What has always united us – what has always driven our people; what drew my father to America’s shores – is a set of ideals that speak to aspirations shared by all people: that we can live free from fear and free from want; that we can speak our minds and assemble with whomever we choose and worship as we please.

These are the aspirations that joined the fates of all nations in this city. These aspirations are bigger than anything that drives us apart. It is because of these aspirations that the airlift began. It is because of these aspirations that all free people – everywhere – became citizens of Berlin. It is in pursuit of these aspirations that a new generation – our generation – must make our mark on the World.

People of Berlin – and people of the World – the scale of our challenge is great. The road ahead will be long. But I come before you to say that we are heirs to a struggle for freedom. We are a people of improbable hope. With an eye toward the future, with resolve in our hearts, let us remember this history, and answer our destiny, and remake the World once again.

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READ ORWELL’S 1984: SUPER GREEDY RICH LOBBYIST MCCAIN WALL STREET OOIIILLLL MILLIONAIRE APPROVES MCBUSH TORTURE METHODS
Crimes Against Humanity Trials By The International Court of Justice (The Hague)
Get your head out of that hole and READ 1984 Orwell’s prediction of a diabolical future of a New World Obscene Supercapitalism Order of total control. Orwell warns people of Obscene Supercapitalism GOP REPUBLICAN control.
Winston Smith, who is a man in his late 30's and a member of the 'outer party' - the lower of the two classes. Winston Smith works for the Obscene Supercapitalism controlled government in one of the four main government buildings called the Ministry of Truth where his job is to rewrite history books in order for people not to learn what the past used to be like (the slogan of 'the party' is "who controls the past, controls the future."). As the book is beginning, Winston begins to contemplate setting himself against Obscene Supercapitalism GOP REPUBLICAN Big Brother Party, but of course is reluctant, knowing that even thinking about such a thing could easily result in his death. The three sentences sum up what the party stands for, and they are:

"War is Peace"
"Freedom is Slavery"
"Ignorance is Strength"

All appear to be oxymoron's, but make some sense once the reader has progressed through the book, for example, the term "War is Peace" has a simple, but somewhat complex explanation.
The society in 1984 revolves around 3 'Obscene Superstates' which are Eurasia, Eastasia, and Oceania. All of these states are in a constant state of war with one another, yet all are self contained, and require no trade with one another, and therefore do not require war as a means of economical necessity. However, it is their feeling that as long as a constant state of war is prevailing, the people will be too preoccupied with the war effort to worry about whether or not the present political system is working. The government constantly reminds the people that when they win the war, Oceania will rule the world, and life will be better. So therefore, as long as the war is going (as it always will be), peace within the states can prevail.
Obscene Supercapitalism GOP REPUBLICAN Big Brother becomes suspicious of Winston, and he is therefore watched by O'Brien, an intelligent executive at the Ministry of Truth who is a member of the Inner Party (the upper wealthy class). After a bit of casual conversation at the workplace, he is invited to O'Brien's house where he denounces to him his thoughts and ideas about the WALL STREET Brotherhood. O'Brien mentions a gentleman named Emmanuel Goldstein whom he claims to know heads an organization for such the same purposes of which Winston spoke. O'Brien promises to help Winston, and promises him a copy of Goldstein's book.
Julia is the third and final main character of the book. She is an attractive young female who works with Winston at the Ministry of Truth. She is a member of the Outer Poor Party. They fall in love, but never marry because of existing laws in 1984. Julia eventually learns of Winston’s plans, and even helps him. However, unlike O'Brien, she does not betray him.
Eventually, Winston is caught and taken to a place "where there is no darkness" which are bright underground rooms where criminals are taken to be interrogated. He is tortured Super Greedy Rich Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush style and mentally murdered so badly that by the end of the book he loves Obscene Supercapitalism GOP REPUBLICAN Big Brother, and cannot think a single thought without the permission of the party. Winston is tortured on several different occasions, and on all occasions it is done by his "teacher" - O'Brien. Almost the entire last 1/3 of the book is devoted to the dialogue that takes place during these torture sessions between O'Brien and Winston.
Winston turns out to be a textbook case of a person reformed by the WALL STREET GOP REPUBLICAN Party. By the end of the book, Winston is completely mentally dead. He cannot think or act for himself, and he is merely a toy of the party. He is useless to anyone (including the Obscene Supercapitalism GOP REPUBLICAN Party), and may as well be put to death, but is kept alive, probably as a trophy to Obscene Supercapitalism GOP REPUBLICAN Big Brother Party.
Super Greedy Rich Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III WALL STREET selling American Big Banks to foreign billionaires Crisis giving foreign sweatshop billionaires direct votes in Our Economy, Way of Life and Government.
Mission Accomplish Super Greedy Rich Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III For Trying To Destroy Our Democracy and Economy

The Multiple Crisis are the fault of the Administration, Supreme Court, Congress and especially the GOP REPUBLICAN Party for allowing GOP REPUBLICAN International War Suspects McBush, Cheney, and Rice to lie, cheat and steal their way into the Highest Office on Earth and remain there for eight years. The Entire World thinks that America was ridiculous for allowing GOP REPUBLICAN criminals and scoundrels to steal their way into office not once but twice. If you locked three Rock Wellers in a jewelry shop for eight years without Obscene Supervision, what would you expect upon returning? Why are Americans surprised that the three scoundrels McBush, Cheney, and Rice have smashed up the place and almost destroyed America in eight years? You should have expected bad things from those criminals eight years ago and stopped them back then. Instead of stopping the trillion dollar criminals, the media (O’Reilly, FOX News, The New Yorker) went after the Dixie Chicks, Paris Hilton, Rosie O’Donnel, and Britney Spears. How stupid.

Now the media (O’Reilly, FOX News, The New Yorker) pursues Boy George, because he might be a threat. What an incredibly stupid, stupid, and racist media we have. The World is watching and laughing at our stupid media and defunct WALL STREET robber barons greedy selfish shortsighted Obscene Supercapitalistic system. Since when does the prerequisite for becoming the President includes being a poor military academy student, out of action POW, computer illiterate, senior citizen and husband of a recovering drug addict/thief/criminal? Super Greedy Rich Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire is qualified to be a former POW and Mrs. McThief is qualified to be a recovering drug addict. What a pair and example for our youth. Romney the compulsive will not help our country as vice president. I say elect the GOP REPUBLICAN s and force them to fix their gigantic GOP REPUBLICAN Obscene Supercapitalism mess or impeach the defunct and failing GOP REPUBLICAN Party.


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HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON ANGERED BY SARAH PALIN’S REMARKS

Hillary wants to know if Palin wants to run the United States in the same manner that she and McCain ran their dysfunctional families. With the nomination of hockey mom Sarah Palin, John McCain has officially transformed the defunct GOP Republican Party into a circus complete with a lipstick wearing pig clown displaying the IQ of a cockatoo. Hillary added that Sarah Palin’s pathological lies and unprofessional name calling led to the five letter word pertaining to an Arctic hillbilly (P A L I N).

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MCCAIN-KEATING SAVINGS AND LOANS FRAUD / FINANCIAL CRISIS AGAINST AMERICA

MCCAIN-KEATING SAVINGS AND LOANS FRAUD / FINANCIAL CRISIS AGAINST AMERICA

MCCAIN-KEATING SAVINGS AND LOANS FRAUD / FINANCIAL CRISIS AGAINST AMERICA


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The financial system is still in grave peril, despite Congress's approval of an unprecedented $700 billion bailout.

Unemployment is rising, the economy is slowing, and the question isn't whether we're in for a recession but how long and how deep the recession will be.

Meanwhile, U.S. troops are still fighting in two places -- Iraq and Afghanistan -- where foreign occupations end badly.

The terrorists who struck us on Sept. 11, 2001, have been allowed to regroup within the borders of nuclear-armed Pakistan and are busy plotting new attacks.

Rarely have there been bigger or more urgent issues to talk about in a presidential campaign.

Yet GOP Republican McCain / Palin refuse to talk about these vital issues to America. Why?
GOP Republicans caused this mess and have not a clue of how to get us out of this mess.

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The richest one percent of this country owns half our country's wealth, nine trillion dollars. One third of that comes from hard work. Two thirds of that comes from inheritance; interest on interest accumulating to widows / idiot sons; and stock / real estate SPECULATION. It is crap.

Ninety percent of the American public has little or no net worth.

WALL STREET SPECULATORS create nothing. But through SUPER-CAPITALISM (FRAUD), WALL STREET SPECULATORS OWN THE MAJORITY OF THIS COUNTRY. The Super Rich running America are doing it through Las Vegas style gambling. IT IS CRAP!!!

RICH GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET SPECULATORS make the rules (news, war, peace, famine, upheaval).

RICH GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET SPECULATORS pick that rabbit out of the hat while the American People wonder how WE GOT INTO THIS MESS.

You are not naive enough to think that we live in a Democracy?

IT'S THE FREE MARKET. And you're a part of it.

GOP REPUBLICAN RICH WALL STREET SPECULATORS have that killer instinct. Stick around, GOP REPUBLICAN RICH WALL STREET SPECULATORS still have more stealing to do.


In a Democracy, the AMERICAN PEOPLE suppose to own AMERICA. That's right, the AMERICAN PEOPLE suppose to own AMERICA.

AMERICANS are being robbed by GOP RICH REPUBLICAN WALL STREET SPECULATORS AND THEIR WHITE HOUSE / CONGRESSIONAL STOOGES with their:

Obscenely high salaries,
Tax havens for the rich,
Tax breaks for the rich,
Tax laws for the rich,
Exclusive clubs “Eyes Wide Shut”,
Luncheons,
Hunting trips,
Golf tournaments,
Escort services,
Corporate jets,
GOLDEN PARACHUTES.

Thousands of GOP Republican CEOs and their White House / Congressional Stooges are walking away with over $20,000,000 each of stolen money from the U.S. Treasury (AMERICAN PEOPLE). This Is Treason Against the American People.


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CONGRESS YOU NO LONGER REPRESENT WALL STREET SOLELY
CONGRESS YOU NOW REPRESENT THE WILL OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE

THIS IS THE AGENDA
CONGRESS WILL REMOVE ALL GOLDEN PARACHUTES FROM THE BILL
CONGRESS WILL ENSURE THAT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE WELL PROTECTED WITHIN THE BILL

CONGRESS WILL PROSECUTE GOP REPUBLICANS ON THE FIX AND WALL STREET SUPER RICH CEO INSIDE TRADERS. THEIR CORPORATE SHARES AND PRIVATE PROPERTIES (DOMESTIC AND ABROAD) WILL BE CONFISCATED AND RETURNED TO THE U.S. TREASURY (AMERICAN PEOPLE).

GREED IS TREASON AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE

IF CONGRESS FAILS TO PROTECT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, THEN CONGRESS WILL BE DESOLVED AND A NEW CONGRESS WILL BE PUT IN PLACE TO REFLECT THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE


SOMEONE EXPLAIN TO CONGRESS IN EXTREMELY SIMPLE TERMS THAT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE COME FIRST.

THE DAYS WHEN CONGRESS ACTED AS THE STOOGE OF GOP REPUBLICAN SUPER RICH WALL STREET SPECULATORS HAS COME TO AN END


THE AMERICAN PEOPLE TAKE TOP PRIORITY IN AMERICA

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NO MORE GOLDEN PARACHUTES FOR EXECUTIVE CRIMINALS

GOP SUPER RICH REPUBLICAN WALL STREET CRIMINALS PREPARE FOR HANDCUFFS AND ASSETS CONFISCATION


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THOSE RICH WALL STREET SPECULATING GOP REPUBLICANS WHO DROVE THE BUS INTO THE DITCH, WILL NOT BE TRUSTED TO DRIVE THE BUS OUT OF THAT DITCH.

SUPER RICH GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET SPECULATORS AND THEIR GOP REPUBLICAN HAND PICKED STOOGES IN THE WHITE HOUSE ADMINISTRATION, SENATE, SUPREME COURT, TREASURY, SEC AND CONGRESS TOGETHER HAVE $1 TRILLION WORTH OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE’S ASSETS (DOMESTIC AND HIDDEN ABROAD) THAT MUST BE RETURNED TO THE CITIZENS OF THE UNITED STATES.

AMERICA WANTS ITS $1 TRILLION BACK NOW AND CRIMINAL TRIALS FOR ALL INVOLVED IN THIS CONSPIRACY AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.

ACCOUNTABILITY AND TRANSPARENCY ARE THE NEW LAWS OF THE LAND.

TREASON AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WILL NOT BE TOLERATED.

NO MORE GOLDEN PARACHUTES FOR EXECUTIVE CRIMINALS. GOP SUPER RICH REPUBLICAN WALL STREET CRIMINALS PREPARE FOR HANDCUFFS AND ASSETS CONFISCATION.

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THOSE GOP REPUBLICAN CORPORATE EXECUTIVES WHO STOLE AND SQUANDERED AVERAGE AMERICANS’ MONEY ON HIGH RISK UNSECURED WALL STREET LAS VEGAS STYLE SPECULATIONS SHOULD NOT BE REWARDED WITH MULTIMILLION-DOLLAR COMPENSATION PACKAGES SUBSIDIZED BY THE TAXPAYERS.

THESE GOP SUPER RICH REPUBLICAN CORPORATE EXECUTIVES, SPECULATORS AND CONGRESSIONAL STOOGES SHOULD BE IN HANDCUFFS. ALL OF THEIR ASSETS SHOULD BE CONFISCATED, LIQUIDATED AND RETURNED THE TREASURY (AMERICAN PEOPLE).

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LET THE TRIALS BEGIN: GOP SUPER RICH REPUBLICAN FLEECING OF AMERICA

CITIZENS OF THE UNITED STATES VERSUS GOP SUPER RICH GOP REPUBLICAN CRIMINALS

ACT QUICKLY, ACT QUICKLY, ACT QUICKLY
IS NOT THIS THE SAME THING THAT THOSE GOP REPUBLICAN CRIMINALS SAID TO START THE ILLEGAL IRAQ WAR!

LET THE TRIALS BEGIN: CITIZENS OF THE UNITED STATES VERSUS GOP SUPER RICH REPUBLICAN CRIMINALS (BUSH, CHENEY, RICE, PAULSON, MCCAIN) AND THEIR WALL STREET SUPERCAPITALIST SPECULATING FELLOW CONSPIRATOR FRIENDS

THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WILL PREVAIL

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THIS GOP REPUBLICAN SUPER RICH WALL STREET MELTDOWN IS CRIMINAL MISUSE OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE’S MONEY AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL (TREASON)

JOHN MCCAIN FEARS SHARING THE STAGE WITH HARVARD LAW PROFESSOR BARACK OBAMA

MOOSE COMMUNITY COLLEGE SARAH PALIN FEARS SHARING THE STAGE WITH LAW SCHOLAR JOE BIDEN

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Hmmm, let's see. We have a bunch of republicans whining about wanting these CEOs to keep their fortunes, multiple houses and cars, and they want the taxpayers to bail them out. But when the taxpayer wanted help to keep THEIR homes, they were called a bunch of whiners by these SAME republicans and were given NO bailout.

Why are their oversized fortunes more important than the rest of America's modest and undersized ones?

Now, for the last time, once and for all, explain to me how Obama is the elitist and the republicans are "just like you and me." Go ahead. I triple dog dare you.


TREASON TRIALS FOR GOP REPUBLICAN SUPER RICH CRIMINALS

$1Trillion Illegal Iraq War plus $1Trillion Wall Street Fraud equals $2Trillion that
GOP Republicans (Bush, Cheney, Rice, Paulson, Guiliani, McCain) and those contributing members of Congress, Wall Street Speculators, and Cabinet who took part in the most Monumental Fraud against the American People owe to Our National Treasury.



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GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET SUPERCAPITALISM AT ITS WORST

Executive salaries, CEO bonuses, grand robberies of the U.S. TREASURY in the $MILLIONS, $BILLIONS, and $TRILLIONS.

GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET SUPERCAPITALISTS robbed the AMERICAN PEOPLE of a $Trillion. RULE OF LAW states that the AMERICAN PEOPLE will be protected and all private properties, money, and wealth domestic and abroad owned by GOP REPUBLICAN SUPERCAPITALISTS taking part in robbing the U.S. TREASURY (AMERICAN PEOPLE) will immediately be confiscated and returned to the U.S. TREASURY (AMERICAN PEOPLE).

REPLACE GOP REPUBLICAN CEO GOLDEN PARACHUTES WITH CRIMINAL TRIALS AND PROPERTY CONFISCATION. THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WILL PREVAIL AND THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION WILL BE REINSTATED. LONG LIVE FREEDOM AND JUSTICE. CORPORATE TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY WILL BE THE LAW OF THE LAND.

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INSIDE JOB AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL:
GOP REPUBLICAN WHITE HOUSE ILLEGAL WARS AND
WALL STREET CRIMINAL DEREGULATED SPECULATIONS

You asked for it and you got it. GOP REPUBLICANS INSIDERS McCain, Bush, Cheney, Paulson, and Rice were hired by Super-Capitalists (Super Wealthy GOP REPUBLICANS) to start Illegal Oil Wars against Oil producing Nations and DEREGULATE (eliminate AMERICAN PEOPLE PROTECTION) the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT (White House, Congress, Supreme Court), TREASURY and WALL STREET. These INSIDERS did exactly what they were paid to do. Past GOP REPUBLICANS (Nixon, Reagan, Bush I) and current GOP REPUBLICANS (Bush II, Cheney, Rice, McCain, Paulson) have a credibility factor of zero. Americans no longer believe them, the World has never believed them and now they are done. They came in with the 9/11 attack upon the AMERICAN PEOPLE and leave with the Wall Street $1Trillion attack upon the AMERICAN PEOPLE.

Wave after wave after wave the GOP REPUBLICANS attack the AMERICAN PEOPLE based on the premise of disrespect for anyone who is not a GOP RICH REPUBLICAN. Either you are in their group (GOP RICH REPUBLICAN) or out (debt ridden worker bee / victim). GOP REPUBLICANS view the AMERICAN PEOPLE as gullible sheep perpetually fattened with debt and led to the subhuman existence slaughter. When slavery (free labor) ended GOP RICH REPUBLICANS attacked and enslaved the people of the world through unbalanced trade. Now that foreign sweatshops are demanding better pay and treatment, GOP RICH REPUBLICANS are attacking the AMERICAN MIDDLE CLASS. GOP RICH REPUBLICANS are banking on the idea that the AMERICAN MIDDLE CLASS are non-thinking drones fat with artificial food, high on Wall Street sponsored imported drugs (legal / illegal), and choked with clutter, debt and noise.

Through massive GOP REPUBLICAN SPONSORED DEREGULATIONS, GOP REPUBLICAN CEOs, Treasury Secretary, Wall Street Speculators, White House Administration, Cabinet Members, and their insider friends each walked away with more than $20,000,000 annually of money stolen directly from the U.S. TREASURY (AMERICAN PEOPLE). After eight years of GRAND FRAUD AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL, thousands of GOP REPUBLICANS ROBBED OUR UNITED STATES TREASURY OF $1TRILLION (ACTS OF TREASON AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE).

The AMERICAN PEOPLE will hold ALL GOP REPUBLICANS INVOLVED in these ACTS OF TREASON accountable before a TRIAL. ALL GOP REPUBLICANS INVOLVED in these ACTS OF TREASON will have ALL OF THEIR PROPERTIES (corporate and private, domestic and foreign sheltered) CONFISCATED, SOLD and RETURNED to OUR NATIONAL TREASURY (AMERICAN PEOPLE). The UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION (WILL OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE) shall prevail, despite the criminal efforts of GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET SUPER-CAPITALIST CRIMINALS.

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CONGRESS WILL NOT ADJOURN UNTIL AFTER THE GOP REPUBLICAN PARTY FIX THEIR COLOSSAL MESS

GOP (GOOD OLDBOY PRIVATEERS)

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Britain has nationalized its banks. The U.S. has nationalized Wall Street and will do the same for U.S. Oil if it hits $6.50 a gallon in two years. The Treasury and Oil are too crucial for national defense to be left in the hands of self serving speculators' private greed. The United States greed based society is over. We will copy Britain or Germany’s mixed economy system based heavily on the People government oversight. Speculators and gamblers cannot be trusted with the American economy. Wrong is wrong and wolves cannot be hired to protect cash cows. Today you can gamble in Las Vegas with your credit card (money that you don’t have); Wall Street high leverage speculation is the same thing.

Three weeks ago, some Americans stupidly said that we don’t need to consider World Opinion during the 2008 presidential election. It is now clear that America and The World are closely connected and that we need to consider how the World perceives our decisions. The World does not like John McCain and will not cooperate with McCain. Europeans and the World view John McCain as an old relic bent on returning the World to perpetual hostility.

No one wants another Cold War, except McCain. Palin’s childish perceptions are not worth mentioning, especially with the World watching and laughing at McCain’s choices. Russia does not want another Expensive Cold War, but it will play ball if McCain kicks off. While Bush and McCain are building military bases in Poland, Russia is speaking with Latin American Oil Nations about refining and cutting out U.S. Oil Companies. Next Russia will build military bases in Latin American in response to U.S. bases in Eastern Europe. McCain and Wall Street weapons manufacturers are the only ones who want to profit from a new Cold War. In reality, no one benefits from a new Cold War. The American People, Russian People and World People will be injured by a new Cold War. Expect European demands to be rid of all U.S. bases in Europe. The American People, Russian People and World People want peace and cooperation from the United States led by Barack Obama.

The World loves Barack Obama and has signed a letter of intent to cooperate with America under Barack’s leadership. Throughout the World young presidents are emerging and none of them want to return to the bad days of the Cold War (bomb shelters, high interest rates, disproportionate military spending, nuclear buildup, general fear). Nobody wants the return of the Cold War, except McCain and Wall Street weapons manufacturers. The American People are nationalizing Wall Street to prevent weapons manufacturers from dictating unfavorable terms to our economy. Again the American middle class must see pass their ignorance and the emperor with no clothes (Bush, McCain, Palin, Guiliani). Americans must vote for it’s best interest, which includes a favorable World Opinion. America And The World Will Vote Obama to avert financial and military catastrophes.

Let’s not forget that China, Saudi Arabia and India together hold over $1 Trillion in American currency. Do you think that China, Saudi Arabia and India have votes in the 2008 American election? The CEOs of American companies and Wall Street Banks heavily invested with funds from China, Saudi Arabia and India know that foreign governments will be exercising their strong votes in our election. You can thank McCain deregulations and GOP Republican American job outsourcing for dissipating Our American votes.

Obama has 8 years experience as a State Senator, 4 years in the US Senate, taught Constitutional Law at the University of Chicago, etc. Obama’s very high intellectual capacity allows him to analyze situations and make sound decisions. How can you even compare Palin’s GED from Moose Community College credentials to these?

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GOP REPUBLICAN JOHN MCCAIN WALL STREET DEREGULATIONS
GOP REPUBLICAN JOHN MCCAIN ALSO WANTED TO PRIVATIZE SOCIAL SECURITY (BONEHEAD)
GOP REPUBLICAN JOHN MCCAIN sponsored landmark legislation in 1999 that removed the walls between banks, investment firms and insurance companies. GOP REPUBLICAN JOHN MCCAIN bill allowed a company like AIG to expand beyond its traditional insurance business (which is still profitable) into exotic new extremely high risk products that brought the company down and created this colossal mess.

WALL STREET SRO - SELF REGULATORY ORGANIZATION
THE GOP REPUBLICAN RUN Government (GOP President, GOP Congress, GOP Supreme Court) looked the other way, while GOP REPUBLICAN Super-capitalist WALL STREET SRO Speculators Robbed Our U.S. TREASURY and Forced the $Trillion Debt Upon the AMERICAN PEOPLE.

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Average Americans are becoming poorer, because GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET super rich SPECULATORS and corporate CEOs are paying themselves, business partners, friends, and family members at least $20,000,000 annually from MONEY STOLEN FROM THE U.S. TREASURY. These major crimes committed by WALL STREET SPECULATORS AND CEOs have gone beyond greed and into acts of treason against the AMERICAN PEOPLE. Seize the stolen money and properties valued in the $TRILLIONS back from these super criminals for attacking America. Those stolen $MILLIONS / $BILLIONS / $TRILLIONS belong to the AMERICAN PEOPLE.

RULE OF LAW states that the People of the United States will be defended. Those who attack American Citizens will be prosecuted. WALL STREET SPECULATORS and CORPORATE CEOs dictatorship over the AMERICAN PEOPLE is over. Average Americans are not going to accept WALL STREET CORPORATE CRIMES anymore. Rights of Citizen and Average Workers of the United States will be enforced. The AMERICAN PEOPLE will always come before corporate interests, because Americans Love America more than Wall Street Speculators love greed.

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GERMANY, FRANCE, ENGLAND HAVE GREATER CITIZEN-WORKERS’ RIGHTS, TRANSPARENCY, OVERSIGHT, AND DOMESTIC TRANQUILITY THAN GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET RUN AMERICA. AMERICA WILL HONOR AMERICAN CITIZENS WITH DEMOCRATIC WORKERS’ RIGHTS, TRANSPARENCY, OVERSIGHT, AND DOMESTIC TRANQUILITY.

NO MORE WALL STREET DICTATORSHIP OVER CONGRESS
NO MORE WALL STREET IMPORTATION OF ILLEGAL CARTEL DRUGS
NO MORE WALL STREET MASS GUN SALES
NO MORE WALL STREET ILLEGAL WARS
NO MORE WALL STREET WILD SPECULATION AND IRRESPONSIBLE LEVERAGE
NO MORE WALL STREET SOFT PORNOGRAPHY ON PRIME TIME TELEVISION
NO MORE WALL STREET MASS VIOLENCE ON PRIME TIME TELEVISION
NO MORE WALL STREET HATE RADIO
NO MORE WALL STREET UNAUTHORIZED SPYING ON AMERICAN CITIZENS
NO MORE WALL STREET ILLEGAL CREDIT SCORES
NO MORE WALL STREET OVERSEAS TAX HAVENS
NO MORE WALL STREET OUTSOURCING AMERICAN JOBS
NO MORE WALL STREET BUYING AMERICAN POLITICIANS


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GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET $TRILLION FRAUD AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE

Direct impact of GOP McCain sponsored deregulations
Bankrupt and floundering
Failure of the investment bank
Government's takeover

GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET's business model has collapsed

Greed and fear routinely govern GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET financial markets and GLOBAL CRISIS.

GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET (giant investment houses, brokerage firms, hedge funds, "private equity" firms) irresponsibly TRADED the savings of average Americans (placed LAS VEGAS STYLE BETS on extremely high risk stocks, bonds, and other securities).

DUBIOUS MORTGAGES were PACKAGED into BONDS and SOLD and TRADED. Investment houses had huge incentives to increase LEVERAGE (OBSCENELY HIGH BORROWING).

GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET compensation is heavily skewed toward annual bonuses, reflecting the profits traders and managers earned in the tune of lavish base salaries and obscenely high annual bonuses of $20,000,000.

GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET relies heavily on OBSCENELY HIGH LEVERAGE (OBSCENELY HIGH BORROWING). $3 Trillion (stocks, bonds, other securities) backed by only $80 billion in shareholders' equity while the $2.8 Trillion was LEVERAGE (BORROWED).

Leverage (huge borrowing) can create huge debts (huge principal and interest obligations)

GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET is a manic machine for gambling.
Traders and money managers are given huge incentives to do whatever would increase short-term profits.

For decades, GOP REPUBLICAN JOHN MCCAIN sponsored legislation that broadly deregulated WALL STREET banking and insurance industries.

GOP REPUBLICAN JOHN MCCAIN swept away Consumer Protection legislation and opened the way for a less restricted high risk financial marketplace.

While the GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET boom continued, government (White House, Congress, Supreme Court) looked the other way.

GOP REPUBLICAN Congress resisted tougher regulation and permitted WALL STREET to run out of control at obscenely high LEVERAGE (OBSCENELY HIGH BORROWED MONEY) RATIOS perpetrating intentional fraud against the AMERICAN PEOPLE.

GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET leaders intentionally deceived customers and lenders into taking hazardous risks for short-term rewards regardless of the long-term dangers to the AMERICAN PEOPLE.

Mortgages went bad. The powerful high leverage went into reverse. Losses eroded firms' capital bases and raised doubts about their survival.

Financial firms took major stupid and wasteful risks that severely damaged the American Economy and impeded economic recovery.

GOP REPUBLICAN STOCK MARKET $TRILLION FRAUD has deepened consumers' pessimism, fear and reluctance to spend. There may be more failures of FINANCIAL FIRMS.

GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET financial crises resemble the GOP REPUBLICAN illegal miscalculated war.


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How were we ever made to believe that the now-collapsing GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET model ever made sense? Common sense should have told us that making RISKY BETS with HUGE AMOUNTS of BORROWED MONEY was a DANGEROUS GAME; if the bets pay off you make money beyond your wildest dreams, but if they go bad you face utter ruin.

Common sense should have told us that betting fortunes on meaningless fluctuations in stock, bond or currency values (McCain sponsored deregulated hedge funds) was about as productive as a trip to Las Vegas. Common sense should have told us that buying and selling exotic securities based on other securities based on bundles of mortgages that were treated like mere numbers on a balance sheet (no recognition that the whole iffy construct was based on real people living in real houses that they might or might not be able to afford) was not an intelligent endeavor.

Somehow, we all forgot that "HIGHLY LEVERAGED" is just another way of saying "DEEPLY INDEBTED." Now we've had a wake-up call, and maybe the erstwhile Masters of the Universe will have to stop playing with imaginary money and go back to using the real stuff.


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RULE OF LAW WILL ENFORCE CONFISCATION OF ALL GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET SPECULATORS’ AND CEOS’ PERSONAL PROPERTIES RESPONSIBLE FOR OUR ECONOMY’S MELTDOWN. All money and properties of the Super Rich CEOs and WALL STREET Speculators domestic and abroad will be confiscated and returned to the United States TREASURY and the AMERICAN PEOPLE.

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WALL STREET SRO - SELF REGULATORY ORGANIZATION
OUR GOP REPUBLICAN RUN Government (GOP President, GOP Congress, GOP Supreme Court) looked the other way, while GOP REPUBLICAN Super-capitalist WALL STREET SRO Speculators Robbed Our U.S. TREASURY and Forced the $Trillion Debt Upon the AMERICAN PEOPLE.


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GOP REPUBLICAN LIARS SUPER RICH WALL STREET GET RICH QUICK GREEDY
BILLION DOLLARS RISKY UNSECURED LOANS RISKY UNSECURED LOANS RISKY UNSECURED LOANS
REPACKAGED AND SOLD TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.

GOP REPUBLICAN LIARS SUPER RICH WALL STREET ROBBER BARONS
COMMIT TREASON AND GRAND FRAUD AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.


WALL STREET SRO - SELF REGULATORY ORGANIZATION
OUR GOP REPUBLICAN RUN Government (GOP President, GOP Congress, GOP Supreme Court) looked the other way, while GOP REPUBLICAN Super-capitalist WALL STREET SRO Speculators Robbed Our U.S. TREASURY and Forced the $Trillion Debt Upon the AMERICAN PEOPLE.

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HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON ANGERED BY SARAH PALIN’S REMARKS

Comments uttered by Sarah Palin has angered Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton who described Sarah Palin as an opportunist with no qualifications. Senator Hillary Clinton also stated that John McCain and Sarah Palin’s records on women’s rights are abominable. The country cannot withstand anymore George Bush failures cloaked in McCain/Palin. Asking Sarah Palin to become Vice President is like asking the grazing moose behind her trailer to pilot the shuttle.

National Organization of Women (NOW) Endorsed Pro-Women’s Rights ticket Obama / Biden for their outstanding work bettering the lives of women.

During her first term as Mayor, Palin went on an intense firing spree by sacking, or requesting resumes and resignation letters from the chief of police, finance director, public works director, and librarian.

In October of 1996, Palin consulted the city librarian about censoring "objectionable" books. The librarian was shocked and responded that the books were selected "on the basis of national selection criteria of libraries this size" and would resist all efforts to ban or remove any books from the library. A few months later Emmons received a letter from Palin stating that she had been terminated from her job. Emmons was reinstated the next day after public outcry.

Long time Alaskan acquaintance described Sarah Palin as a malicious, conniving opportunist, a reckless spender, and power abuser. Initially Palin supported the 'bridge to nowhere' project and even wore t-shirts that supported the project. When she realized that the project was not supported by the public she decided to back off.

Palin is an avid pro-lifer. Teen pregnancies are a major dilemma facing the nation today. The government spent $1 billion in supporting abstinence-only sex education programs since 1996. In the case of Palin's daughter, such programs are failing us. Palin is comfortable with giving her own daughter a choice, but wants to take away that choice from the rest of the nation.

By picking a young, attractive and vivacious woman as his partner in crime, McCain hoped to pull in all the disappointed Clinton supporters. This was his crucial mistake, because Sarah Palin is the antithesis of Hillary Clinton. She stands against women rights and would reverse women's rights by fifty years. Women are not as gullible as McCain and his advisors had hoped that they would be. Just because McCain placed a young woman in front of the crowd does not mean women will automatically vote for her without any question. Women will soon realize that Sarah Palin is an anti-choice, homophobic, polar bear, wolf, moose, and deer killing machine.

Sarah Palin is incapable of writing a speech. The speech given by her at the Republican National Convention was written long before she was considered for McCain’s running mate by the computer. McCain had never heard of Palin until after the computer printed her name one day before his announcement.

The thought that Sarah Palin will do anything in the White House is unsettling, because she is a unhinged lunatic who will mess up and give the public the perception that women cannot be in power. Hillary Rodham Clinton and women throughout the country are very angry that Sarah “moose hunter” Palin is in such an important position. Four out of Sarah’s five best friends have committed to Barack Obama.


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GOP REPUBLICANS ARE AUTHORITARIANS WHO DO NOT BELIEVE IN FREE SPEECH OR DEMOCRACY. GOP REPUBLICAN ONLY INTERESTS ARE POWER AND MONEY.

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GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET SUPERCAPITALISM AT ITS WORST

Executive salaries, CEO bonuses, grand robberies of the U.S. TREASURY in the $MILLIONS, $BILLIONS, and $TRILLIONS.

GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET SUPERCAPITALISTS robbed the AMERICAN PEOPLE of a $Trillion. RULE OF LAW states that the AMERICAN PEOPLE will be protected and all private properties, money, and wealth domestic and abroad owned by GOP REPUBLICAN SUPERCAPITALISTS taking part in robbing the U.S. TREASURY (AMERICAN PEOPLE) will immediately be confiscated and returned to the U.S. TREASURY (AMERICAN PEOPLE).

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PALIN FAILIN RETURNED HOME TO 2,000 ALASKAN PROTESTERS WHO CHEERFULLY CHANTED "O-BAM-AH.

Gov. Sarah Palin returned home to 2,000 protesters outside the Anchorage library who wanted to correct the widespread impression that the Last Frontier endorses her candidacy.

"Last week a group of women were sitting around talking about this perception that all of Alaska supports Sarah Palin. We apparently hit a nerve and started a movement,"

A sense of festival obtained. There was a woman in a polar bear suit representing "Polar Bear Moms Say: No Palin Failin." Drivers on 36th Avenue saw a little girl waving a sign "Don't Ban My Books."

"My mom is from Alaska. She's a working mother. She's good looking," said Nolan. "So she seems to be qualified to be vice president."

Asking Sarah Palin to become the Vice President is like asking the grazing moose behind her trailer to pilot the shuttle.

Sarah Palin Failin Protesters Held Signs Reading:

Bush In A Skirt
Palin Be Failin
Jesus Was a Community Organizer
Palin Failin: Thanks But No Thanks
Smearing Alaska's Good Name One Scandal @ a Time
Candidate To Nowhere
Rape Kits Should Be Free
Voted For Her Once: Never Again!
Community Organizers are the Real Patriots
Barbies for War
I Shall Not Be Pandered To
Give Palin Failin Your Vote AND Your Draft Age Child
Sarah Palin Failin: So Far Right She's Wrong
Alaska Is Not Frisco
Coat Hangers for McCain
Sarah Palin Failin, Undoing 150 Years of American Feminism
Hockey Mama for Obama (on a hockey stick)


Cheerful chants of "O-bam-ah.


National Organization of Women (NOW) Endorses Obama / Biden For Their Pro-Women Rights Stance


McCain / Palin Failin are rejected for their anti-women stance and votes against Women Rights


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PRESIDENTIAL AND VICE PRESIDENTIAL CHOICES

I'm a little confused. Let me see if I have this straight.....

If you grow up in Hawaii, raised by your grandparents, you're 'exotic, different.'

Grow up in Alaska eating mooseburgers, and its a quintessential American story.

If your name is Barack you're a radical, unpatriotic Muslim.

Name your kids Willow, Trig and Track, you're a maverick.

Graduate from Harvard law School and you are unstable.

Attend 5 different small colleges before graduating, you're well grounded.

If you spend 3 years as a brilliant community organizer,
become President of the Harvard Law Review,
create a voter registration drive that registers 150,000 new voters,
spend 12 years as a Constitutional Law professor,
spend 8 years as a State Senator representing a district with over 750,000 people,
become chairman of the state Senate's Health and Human Services committee,
spend 4 years in the United States Senate representing a state of 13
million people while sponsoring 131 bills and serving on the Foreign
Affairs, Environment and Public Works and Veteran's Affairs committees,
you don't have any real leadership experience.

If your total resume is: local weather girl, 4 years
on the city council and 6 years as the mayor of a town with less
than 7,000 people, 20 months as the governor of a state with only 650,000
people, and cook caribou/grizzly/wolf stew, then you're qualified to become the country's second
highest ranking executive.

If you have been married to the same woman for 19 years while raising 2 beautiful daughters,
all within Protestant churches, you're not a real Christian.

If you cheated on your first wife with a rich heiress,
and left your disfigured wife and married the heiress the next month,
you're a Christian.

If you teach responsible, age appropriate sex education, including
the proper use of birth control, you are eroding the fiber of society.

If , while governor, you staunchly advocate abstinence only,
with no other option in sex education in your state's school system
while your unwed teen daughter ends up pregnant , you're very responsible.

If your wife is a Harvard graduate lawyer who gave up a position in a prestigious law firm
to work for the betterment of her inner city community, then gave that up to raise a family,
your family's values don't represent America's.

If you're husband is nicknamed 'First Dude', with at least one DWI conviction
and no college education, who didn't register to vote until age 25 and
once was a member of a group that advocated: the secession of Alaska from the USA,
your family is extremely admirable.

OK, much clearer now.


National Organization of Women (NOW) Endorses Obama / Biden For Their Pro-Women Rights Stance


McCain / Palin Failin are rejected for their anti-women stance and votes against Women Rights


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BRITISH PRIME MINISTER BROWN SUPPORTS BARACK OBAMA

LONDON - BRITISH PRIME MINISTER GORDON BROWN voiced support for UNITED STATES DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE BARACK OBAMA, saying he would help Americans struggling with an economic downturn.

In a move seen by some British media as a break with a political convention requiring foreign leaders to remain neutral ahead of US elections, BRITISH PRIME MINISTER BROWN praised MR. OBAMA as a fellow “progressive politician” who would help ordinary Americans in tough times. With eight weeks to go before the presidential election, MR. OBAMA and his Republican rival John McCain are neck-and-neck in domestic opinion polls.

BRITISH PRIME MINISTER BROWN described the race for the White House as “electrifying” and said: “It is the DEMOCRATS who are generating the ideas to help people through more difficult times.”

“To help prevent people from losing their home, BARACK OBAMA has proposed a Foreclosure Prevention Fund to increase emergency pre-foreclosure counselling, and help families facing repossession,” he wrote in an article in The Monitor magazine, a monthly political publication.

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2008 UNITED STATES DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL RACE

DEMOCRAT HARVARD LAW VS. GOP REPUBLICAN S

OBAMA OF HARVARD LAW AND PRESIDENT OF HARVARD LAW REVIEW
BIDEN OF SYRACUSE LAW

MCCAIN OF NAVY ACADEMY LAST PLACE
PALIN FAILIN OF MOOSE COLLEGE

GOP Republican Wall Street SRO (Self Regulatory Organization) Robber Baron Supercapitalism Is Down And Will No Longer Rob the U.S. TREASURY and AMERICAN PEOPLE

STOP DESTRUCTIVE GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET SUPERCAPITALISM OIL SPECUALTARS (OIL MILLIONAIRES BUSH, CHENEY, RICE, MCCAIN, PALIN FAILIN)

NATIONALIZE U.S. OIL FOR NATIONAL DEFENSE
NATIONALIZE U.S. OIL FOR NATIONAL DEFENSE
NATIONALIZE U.S. OIL FOR NATIONAL DEFENSE

WHY A BARREL OF OIL ILLEGALLY SHOT UP FROM $24 TO $145 DURING THE GOP REPUBLICAN (MCCAIN, BUSH, CHENEY, RICE, PALIN FAILIN) ADMINISTRATION


GOP REPUBLICAN BUSH I OOOOOIIIIILLLLL MILLIONAIRE AND OIL EXECUTIVE
GOP REPUBLICAN BUSH II OOOOOIIIIILLLLL MILLIONAIRE AND OIL EXECUTIVE
GOP REPUBLICAN CHENEY OOOOOIIIIILLLLL MILLIONAIRE AND OIL EXECUTIVE
GOP REPUBLICAN RICE OOOOOIIIIILLLLL MILLIONAIRE AND OIL EXECUTIVE
GOP REPUBLICAN GUILIANI OOOOOIIIIILLLLL MILLIONAIRE AND OIL STOCKHOLDER
GOP REPUBLICAN MCCAIN OOOOOIIIIILLLLL MILLIONAIRE AND OIL STOCKHOLDER
GOP REPUBLICAN PALIN FAILIN OOOOOIIIIILLLLL COMMISSIONER AND OIL STOCKHOLDER


TOGETHER WHAT DO THEY ALL HAVE IN COMMON?

THEY ARE ALL GOP REPUBLICAN OOOOOIIIIILLLLL MILLIONAIRES AND OIL STOCKHOLDERS


GOP REPUBLICAN OOOOOIIIIIIIIILLLLLLLLLLL IS THE NEW CRACK
GOP REPUBLICAN OOOOOIIIIIIIIILLLLLLLLLLL IS THE NEW CRACK
GOP REPUBLICAN OOOOOIIIIIIIIILLLLLLLLLLL IS THE NEW CRACK


CAN YOU SAY GOP REPUBLICAN CONSPIRACY TO DEFRAUD THE AMERICAN PUBLIC, ROB OUR U.S. TREASURY, AND SPECULATE FOR OBSCENELY HIGH PROFIT RETURNS ON WALL STREET OIL STOCKS

WAKE UP AMERICA, BECAUCE THE WORLD ALREADY KNOWS ABOUT THE CRIMINAL GOP REPUBLICAN PARTY OF CONSPIRATORS

NATIONALIZE U.S. OIL FOR NATIONAL DEFENSE AS A VITAL RESOURCE

AMERICA AND AMERICANS FIRST

NO MORE GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET OOOOOIIIIILLLLL SPECULATION AND FRAUD AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE

IF YOU SAY THAT YOU LOVE AMERICA, THEN PROVE IT AND STOP THE GOP REPUBLICAN RAIDERS UPON OUR U.S. TREASURY AND OUTSOURCING OF U.S. JOBS

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GOP Republican Wall Street Get Rich Quick By Robbing America TREASURY Wild Speculators Created The Enormous National Debt, So Make Them Pay For It And Balance Our Budget.
GOP Republican Wall Street Supercapitalism Speculators Have Committed Treason Against Our Country.

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HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON ANGERED BY SARAH PALIN FAILIN’S REMARKS


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Will the GOP Republican get rich by selling America party take credit for any of their disasters? GOP Republicans are successful at failing and hurting OUR COUNTRY in the eyes of the WORLD. Can we really afford to ignore what the ENTIRE WORLD THINKS OF US?


How does the WORLD perceive AMERICA led by Barack Obama? Extremely favorable.

How does the WORLD perceive AMERICA led by John McCain? Extremely negative.

FOUR MORE YEARS ANYONE?

Eventually, Americans will realize that doing the same thing (electing GOP Republicans) will not yield different results (stock market disasters, economic disasters, world view disasters, failed foreign policy disasters, failed domestic policies disasters).

Spraying perfume on a new GOP Republican Pig will not create a bright and shiny candidate. Garbage in equal garbage out. GOP Republican garbage in yield (stock market, economic, foreign relations, domestic policies) garbage out.

McCain has perpetually been a failure from school until now.
Palin Failin has perpetually been a failure (with a hillbilly hockey mom accent) from day one until now. Her bear hunting Arctic outback kids prove it.

Do you really need someone to tell you these basic facts? Under the Freedom of Information Act, all of this information is available free if you choose to type in the questions.

Lets prove to the Europeans and the World that we are not stupid, because they think that we are after two terms of Forrest Gump Bush.

Crash Every Plane McCain and Hillbilly Trailer Palin Failin are not reflective of the AMERICAN PEOPLE.

If Palin Failin had a brain, then she would have considered the immense responsibilities demanded of the Office of the United States Vice President or President; and politely declined McCain’s crack induced invitation. GOP Republican Party is a joke.

If FOX NEWS does not clean up it’s filthy RACIST acts of discrimination, then American and European audiences will B O Y C O T T FOX RACIST NEWS.


GOP Republican Wall Street Get Rich Quick By Robbing America TREASURY Wild Speculators Created The Enormous National Debt, So Make Them Pay For It And Balance Our Budget.
GOP Republican Wall Street Supercapitalism Speculators Have Committed Treason Against Our Country.


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REPORT SAYS GOP REPUBLICAN OIL AGENCY RAN AMOK

INVESTIGATION OF GOP REPUBLICAN OFFICE OF MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET

INVESTIGATION OF GOP REPUBLICAN MINERALS MANAGEMENT SERVICE OIL MARKETING GROUP


GOP REPUBLICAN Government officials in charge of collecting BILLIONS of dollars worth of royalties from OIL and gas companies accepted gifts, steered contracts to favored clients and engaged in drug use and illicit sex with employees of the energy firms, federal investigators reported.

Investigators from the Interior Department's inspector general's office said more than a dozen employees, including the former director of the OIL royalty program, took meals, ski trips, sports tickets and golf outings from industry representatives. The report alleges that the former director, also netted more than $30,000 from improper outside work.

The report from Inspector General contains fresh allegations about the practices at the beleaguered royalty-in-kind program of Interior's Minerals Management Service, which last year collected more than $4 billion worth of OIL and natural gas from companies given contracts to tap energy on federal and Indian lands and offshore. The revelations come as Congress is set to consider opening the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge and areas off the coast of Florida for drilling.

The royalty-in-kind program, based near Denver, allows energy companies to pay the government in OIL and gas, rather than cash, for the privilege of drilling on government land. It has been the subject of multiple investigations since 2006 by the Interior Department's secretary, its inspector general, the Justice Department and Congress for alleged mismanagement and conflicts of interest.

In the report released yesterday, investigators said they "discovered a culture of substance abuse and promiscuity" in which employees accepted gratuities "with prodigious frequency." The report cited one e-mail from a Shell Pipeline representative asking a woman in the royalty office to attend "tailgating festivities" at a Houston Texans football game: "You're invited . . . have you and the girls meet at my place at 6am for bubble baths and final prep."

Besides Shell, the energy company employees mentioned in the report worked for Chevron, Hess and Gary-Williams Energy. The social outings detailed in the report included alcohol-, cocaine- and marijuana-filled parties where certain employees of the Minerals Management Service were nicknamed the "MMS Chicks" by the energy employees. The companies paid for federal workers to attend football and baseball games, PGA Tour events, Colorado ski trips, paintball outings and "treasure hunts," investigators found.

"The OIL INDUSTRY holds shocking sway over the ADMINISTRATION and even KEY FEDERAL EMPLOYEES,". "This is why we must not allow BIG OIL'S AGENDA to be jammed through CONGRESS."

The current director of the Minerals Management Service, said that he takes the report "very seriously".
Employees identified in the report told investigators that they didn't think ethics rules applied to them because of their "unique" role in the agency and that they needed to socialize with industry representatives for "market intelligence," according to the report. Those employees, some of whom have been transferred to different offices, have been recommended for internal administrative action.

The inspector general's release comprised three separate reports, including one devoted to the program's director. It alleges that Smith improperly worked part time for Geomatrix Consultants, an Oakland, Calif.-based environmental and engineering firm, and marketed the company to government clients.

Additionally, the report said that the director had an inappropriate sexual relationship with a subordinate whom he paid to buy cocaine, promising her a bonus in return. The director admitted to the sexual encounter.

The director, who now works for a private OIL company in Denver, did not respond to requests for comment. Investigators referred their findings to federal prosecutors.

Justice officials also declined to comment on their decision about the criminal case against the highest-ranking official named in the report director of the Minerals Management Service, who worked in Washington. She is accused of improperly arranging a million-dollar deal for two retired employees.

The wife of the procurement policy administrator for the WHITE HOUSE OFFICE OF MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET, retired from government service Jan. 31. She declined to comment on the report. She told investigators she had a "personal issue. The Justice Department's decision to charge created a rift with Interior officials.

One of the two retired employees pleaded guilty in July to a federal conflict-of-interest charge related to the investigation. Another employee has been under investigation for similar conflict-of-interest allegations.

Before he left, Mayberry created a job for himself by writing the job description and the criteria for selecting the winning bidder, court documents show. He started a company out of his Texas home and was awarded a $150,000 contract in June 2003. He later hired Dial, the report said. Mayberry's firm collected $788,000 worth of contracts.

The royalty-in-kind program, which started as a small pilot project a decade ago, has been touted as a way to simplify the way OIL AND GAS COMPANIES pay for the right to drill on federal land and offshore. Instead of calculating the profit from a well, they can simply give the government one-eighth to one-sixth of whatever they take from the ground.

Revenue rose quickly, from $1.5 billion in 2004 to $4.3 billion last fiscal year. But the growth occurred "in an environment with relatively unstructured in-house oversight," the congressionally convened Royalty Policy Committee said in a December report. Previous reports have said that companies were allowed to revise their million-dollar bids for projects indiscriminately, that government workers routinely failed to seek out legal advice on complicated deals and that the agency used outdated computers and a $150 million software program that resulted in royalty money going uncollected.

A lawyer who represented states and tribes entitled to a cut of the royalties, said it was nearly impossible to get accurate numbers from the agency. "They kept hemming and hawing," she said.

In late 2006 questions arose over its handling of leases written in 1998 and 1999 that allowed major OIL companies drilling in the Gulf of Mexico to avoid BILLIONS of dollars in royalty payments.

Former Interior Department auditors accused the agency of failing to bill companies. "We weren't allowed to audit them. It was disturbing," said an auditor who sued the federal government for not collecting royalties. "You couldn't see what was going on."

The minerals agency director said that the harm done by the royalty employees was to public trust and TREASURY, and acknowledged that financial considerations were given to firms that gave favors to federal employees, and he said the contracts will be audited.


Do you really question the motives of GOP Republicans Criminals? America must Immediately Nationalize U.S. OIL and Gas For National Defense.

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DEMOCRAT HARVARD LAW VS. GOP REPUBLICAN CRASH JET AND MUDVILLE


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U.S. Presidents From Harvard Law
John Adams
John Quincy Adams
Rutherford Hayes
Theodore Roosevelt
Franklin Roosevelt
John Kennedy
Barack Obama


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President and Harvard Law Scholar Barack Obama Contrast With Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain


Growing Up

Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain was privileged, given everything by both parents, and worked for nothing.


Irish-American and Harvard Law Scholar Barack Obama grew up poor, raised by his Irish-American single white mother and Irish-American white working class maternal grand parents. Irish-American and Harvard Law Scholar Barack Obama was given nothing and worked for everything.

Education

Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain was a and graduated last in his class. Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain and McBush Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire share failed academic records. He partied constantly and dependent on favor handouts from his high ranking father and grandfather. Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain earned nothing on his own similar to McBush Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire. Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain is also Internet illiterate which slows down his information processing capacity. Is this good for the country?


Irish-American and Harvard Law Scholar Barack Obama worked hard and became PRESIDENT OF THE HARVARD LAW REVIEW. Everything that Irish-American and Harvard Law Scholar Barack Obama accomplished he did on his own. Irish-American Barack Obama’s HARVARD Scholarship ranks among the best. Irish-American and Harvard Law Scholar Barack Obama’s hard work represents the American Dream.


Community Service

Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain poor studies translated into poor performances in the military where he crashed several planes and recklessly endangered the lives of others. Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain was never trusted by his colleagues nor loved by his peers. The highlight of Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain’s career was getting shot down and becoming a prisoner. Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain served his country by getting handouts from his guards. Getting handouts seems to be Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain’s modem of operations. WillObscenelyRich Crash Every Plane McCain, who finished 894th out of 899 at the Naval Academy and who lost five jets, return competence to the White House? To lose one plane over Vietnam may be a heroic tragedy; to lose five planes here and there is carelessness.

Irish-American Barack Obama turned down large profits after graduating from HARVARD LAW to serve the community in Chicago where help was needed most. The community learned to trust and love Irish-American and Harvard Law Scholar Barack Obama for his dedication to public service.


Marriage

Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain walked out on his family to chase a younger woman who was on drugs, embezzling money from her company, stealing, and facing criminal charges, until her privileged family saved her from trial. Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain’s dysfunctional family represents chaos and lack of respect when he curses her in public.


Irish-American and Harvard Law Scholar Barack Obama married an intelligent IVY LEAGUE attorney and adores his beautiful young daughters. Irish-American and Harvard Law Scholar Barack Obama’s First Family represents what America is striving for. Irish-American and Harvard Law Scholar Barack Obama has always been surrounded by and still maintains a great respect for women (Irish mother, Irish grandmother, sister, wife, and two daughters). If anyone is in tune with and favors the betterment of working American women, then it’s Irish-American and Harvard Law Scholar Barack Obama.

International Diplomacy

The World wants no more chaotic McBush Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire- Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain.


The World loves Irish-American and Harvard Law Scholar Barack Obama and will follow America’s leadership behind Irish-American and Harvard Law Scholar Barack Obama.

If Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain had to make another emergency landing on a deserted island with Irish-American and Harvard Law Scholar Barack Obama onboard as one of the passengers, then it is safe to say that Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain would assume the role of Gilligan, while Irish-American and Harvard Law Scholar Barack Obama would assume the role of the professor.

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Hillary Clinton Will Destroy Sarah Palin Failin From Mooseville College.


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Navy pilot John Sidney Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain III should have never been allowed to graduate from the U.S. Navy flight school. He was a below average student and a lousy pilot. Had his father and grandfather not been famous four star U.S. Navy admirals, Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain III would have never been allowed in the cockpit of a military aircraft.

His father John S. "Junior" McCain was commander of U.S. forces in Europe later becoming commander of American forces in Vietnam while Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain III was being held prisoner of war. Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain III's grandfather John S. McCain, Sr. commanded naval aviation at the Battle of Okinawa in 1945.

During his relative short stunt on flight status, Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain III lost five U.S. Navy aircraft, four in accidents and one in combat.

Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain III lost jet number one in 1958 when he plunged into Corpus Christi Bay while practicing landings. He was knocked unconscious by the impact coming to as the plane settled to the bottom.

Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain's second crash occurred while he was deployed in the Mediterranean. Flying too low over the Iberian Peninsula, he took out some power lines which led to a spate of newspaper stories in which he was predictably identified as the son of an admiral."

Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain's third crash three occurred when he was returning from flying a Navy trainer solo to Philadelphia for an Army-Navy football game.

Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain's fourth aircraft loss occurred July 29, 1967, soon after he was assigned to the USS Forrestal as an A-4 Skyhawk pilot. While seated in the cockpit of his aircraft waiting his turn for takeoff, an accidently fired rocket slammed into Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain's plane. He escaped from the burning aircraft, but the explosions that followed killed 134 sailors, destroyed at least 20 aircraft, and threatened to sink the ship.

Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain's fifth loss happened during his 23rd mission over North Vietnam on Oct. 26, 1967, when Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain's A-4 Skyhawk was shot down by a surface-to-air missile. Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain ejected from the plane breaking both arms and a leg in the process and subsequently parachuted into Truc Bach Lake near Hanoi.

"Demands for military information were accompanied by threats to terminate my medical treatment if I [ Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain] did not cooperate. Eventually, I gave them my ship's name and squadron number, and confirmed that my target had been the power plant."

When the communist learned that Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain's father was Admiral John S. McCain, Jr., the soon-to-be commander of all U.S. Forces in the Pacific, he was rushed to Gai Lam military hospital.

The communist Vietnamese figured, because POW Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain's father was of such high military rank, that he was of royalty or the governing circle. Thereafter the communist bragged that they had captured "the crown prince."

For 23 combat missions (an estimated 20 hours over enemy territory), the U.S. Navy awarded Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain a Silver Star, a Legion of Merit for Valor, a Distinguished Flying Cross, three Bronze Stars, two Commendation medals plus two Purple Hearts and a dozen service medals.

Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain had roughly 20 hours in combat. Since Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain got 28 medals, that equals out to a medal-and-a-half for each hour he spent in combat. There were infantry guys -- grunts on the ground -- who had more than 7,000 hours in combat where I'm sure a prison cell would have looked pretty good to them by comparison. The question really is how many guys got that number of medals for not being shot down.

Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain has been an unchecked master at manipulating an overly friendly and biased news media. The former POW turned Congressman, turned U.S. Senator, has managed to gloss over his failures as a pilot and collaborations with the enemy by exaggerating his military service and lying about his feats of heroism.

Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain has sprouted a halo and wings to become America's POW-hero presidential candidate.

Former naval officer and the owner of an OOIIILLLL-trading company that inked defense contracts worth $1 billion is the modern presidential money man. The law forbids high-level supporters from writing huge checks, but with help from friends in the Middle East Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain is receiving large donations.

If FOX NEWS does not clean up it’s filthy RACIST acts of discrimination, then American and European audiences will B O Y C O T T FOX RACIST NEWS.


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Barak Obama proved why November's presidential election will end in a 50-state sweep. John Crash Every Plane McCain has no chance. It's like George Bush climbing into the ring with Mike Tyson; one thundering left hook and the Crawford Caligula would be sprawled across the canvas. "No mas"! The same fate awaits the crabby senator from Arizona. The polls are skewed to look like there's a political horse-race going on. There isn't. It's a complete rout. There's one well-toned thoroughbred striding from venue to venue electrifying the ever-increasing throngs, and one doddering, old mare limping towards the glue-factory. Someone should put a stop to it before Crash Every Plane McCain gets hurt.

At the Victory Column in Berlin's Tiergarten, Obama extracted Old Glory from the burn-pile and gave Brand America a desperately needed shot of adrenaline. 200,000 ecstatic Germans jammed the streets in what turned out to be the political shindig of the year. Many of them were waving American flags and chanting, "Obama, Obama, Obama". It was like Jack Kennedy had risen from his moldy sepulcher and made his way across the pond for one last rousing ovation. Obama has the very same affect on crowds. Its a gift and he knows how to use it to great advantage.

"People of Berlin, people of the world, this is our moment, this is our time," Obama boomed. "I know my country has not perfected itself, we've made our share of mistakes and there are times when our actions around the world have not lived up to our best intentions. But the greatest danger of all is to allow new walls to divide us from one another."

What can we say about Obama's oratory skills that hasn't already been said? He is one of those unique characters who knows how to tap into the collective psyche and put them under his spell. He is the closest thing to a Pied Piper we've seen in the last half century. Whatever one thinks of his politics, his speeches are a welcome reprieve from the simian blabbering of President Dimwit.

"I speak to you not as a candidate for president, but as a citizen; a proud citizen of the United States and a fellow citizen of the world." (Roaring applause)

JOHN Crash Every Plane McCain: Maverick or Freak?
Have you taken a look at the crowds at a Crash Every Plane McCain event. Usually, there aren't any. Typically, there are more journalists and cameramen then people; and even they look bored. It's the truth. He generates no enthusiasm at all. None. He may be the most uninspiring, tedious, pure-vanilla candidate of all time; a complete dud. I challenge anyone to recite from memory anything John Crash Every Plane McCain has ever said in his 40 years in office. Time's up! When Crash Every Plane McCain begins to talk, its a signal for women to pull out the nail-files and for men to figure out how they're going to get out of cutting the lawn this week. Really. No one listens.

And the people that do manage to drag themselves to his speeches out of a sense of obligation are (you guessed it) scowling white guys with baseball caps pulled tightly over their ears or nearly-ambulatory Korea-era Vets who think the United Nations is a communist front-group that's planning to air-drop blue-helmets into Duluth to take over the United States. Tin-foil hats anyone?

Popularity and charisma, how does one survive in politics with neither. That's the question, and it may be the biggest mystery of Crash Every Plane McCain's candidacy. He's just not a likable guy. No one ever talks about hanging out and having a beer with John Crash Every Plane McCain, because they know that he might go "Jackie Chan" and start busting the place up. And he's utterly impossible to listen to. His high-pitched squeaky voice is about two octaves higher than a dog-whistle and twice as annoying. So how is he going to beat Obama. It's a total mismatch.

Crash Every Plane McCain is the perfect candidate for the GOP Republic party that has completely collapsed. He's like the "Jolly Roger" on the front of an iodine bottle; Brand X. In 2000, the Republican Party boasted it was the "party of ideas". What ideas? The Republican Party has never had ideas because the corporate mandarins and blue-blooded kleptocrats that run the party are suspicious of ideas, ideology, doctrine, philosophy or anything else that veers from their primary objectives of crushing the poor, despoiling the environment, carpet-bombing brown people wherever they may be, and enriching themselves. That's all they care about. The task of the right-wing think-tanks is to treat "war and tax cuts" like they're ideas. They're not. But war and tax cuts ARE the two foundation blocks of the Republican Party. There's nothing else; there never has been. Don't look for ideas; there aren't any. GOP Republican get rich quick by defrauding the AMERICAN PEOPLE, robbing the National TREASURY, sending American jobs overseas, and raising the national debt.

Hold Bush, Cheney, Rice, and Crash Every Plane McCain accountable for the crimes they've committed during their time in office.

Obama is not a candidate; he's a phenomenon. Obama is an explosive, vital, charismatic politician. When he speaks people feel better about themselves and their country. And, they're more hopeful about the future, too. That's what makes him unbeatable.

Crash Every Plane McCain, on the other hand, is the perfect embodiment of his party; a rusty, broken-down hulk that's been stripped of its engine, its fenders and all its moving parts. Even the steering wheel is gone. It's a dead-loss; nothing is salvageable.

Crash Every Plane McCain is in way over his head. This election is going to be a real embarrassment for him. It's too bad. He should be back at the Phoenix Rest Home shooing kids off the front lawn instead of waiting for the ax to fall in November. It's a rotten way to end a career.

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GOP Republican Wall Street SRO (Self Regulatory Organization) Robber Baron Supercapitalism Is Down And Will No Longer Rob the U.S. TREASURY and AMERICAN PEOPLE


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GOP REPUBLICAN PLANE/TRAILER WRECK MCCAIN/PALIN FAILIN

With Wall Street OOOIIIIILLLLLL stocks paid under the table to Sarah Palin Failin OOOOIIIIILLLLLL Commissioner from OOOOOIIIIIILLLLLLL Millionaires Crash Every Plane McCain, Bush, Cheney, Rice and Guiliani; it appears that Sarah Palin Failin OOOOIIIIILLLLLL Commissioner, her large family, dogs, cats, chickens, and hogs can now move out of their trailer. Guiliani went from GOP front runner to anonymous polygamist. Guiliani is the biggest joke and shares home dysfunction with Bush, Cheney, Rice, Crash Every Plane McCain and now Sarah trailer Palin Failin OOOOIIIIILLLLLL Commissioner. OOOOIIIIILLLLLLL MILLIONS stolen from Our TREASURY did not help their dysfunctional families.

GOP Republican Wall Street Get Rich by robbing the American TREASURY and outsourcing American jobs party has officially been dissolved. Plane wreck McCrash and Train wreck Trailer Palin Failin OOOOIIIIILLLLLL Commissioners have destroyed the already dysfunctional GOP Republican Party of Corporate Welfare Thieves.

Democrats and Independents are the official parties. Blessings to America and the World for peaceful cooperation and the elimination of unjust wars for GOP profits. The People First Party has arrived and Rich Wall Street millionaires will no longer use the AMERICAN PEOPLE as their cattle. Americans today are all free independent Democratic People in pursuit of happiness in the spirit of cooperation.

“We joined up with an altruistic vision of promoting freedom and justice around the world,” said Vince Emanuel, a Marine lance corporal who did a tour of duty in Iraq from August 2004 to April 2005, explaining why he was marching and protesting the GOP Republican Convention.

“Except we saw the killing of innocent people and the destruction of property ... for a lot of us it was very disenfranchising."

The veterans group tried to hand a message to the campaign of GOP Republican John Crash Every Plane McCain calling for a withdrawal from Iraq, reparations for the Iraqi people, and full medical benefits for veterans. No one from John Crash Every Plane McCain’s campaign received them.


If FOX NEWS does not clean up it’s filthy RACIST acts of discrimination, then American and European audiences will B O Y C O T T FOX RACIST NEWS.


GOP Republican Wall Street SRO (Self Regulatory Organization) Robber Baron Supercapitalism Is Down And Will No Longer Rob the U.S. TREASURY and AMERICAN PEOPLE

Prerequisite for the United Stats President and Vice President is advance degrees, especially in Constitutional Law. McCain and hillbilly Palin Failin are excluded from the highest offices in the World. The debates will be fun: Harvard Law vs. Crash Jet and Mudville.

GOP Republican Wall Street Get Rich Quick By Robbing America TREASURY Wild Speculators Created The Enormous National Debt, So Make Them Pay For It And Balance Our Budget.
GOP Republican Wall Street Supercapitalism Speculators Have Committed Treason Against Our Country.

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What has WALL STREET SUPER-CAPITALISM brought you besides:

Cluttered homes full of useless crap

Semi-illiterate teenage sons on alcohol and drugs

Semi-illiterate teenage daughters on drugs and having unwanted babies

Selfish lifestyles mimicking immoral rich people with off the chart divorce rates

Depress people living alone and addicted to church on TV or pornography

Guns deregulation freeing children to murder each other in school and after school

Prime time television soft pornography for the kids to mimic

Daughters dressing like prostitutes

Sons dressing like homeless

GREED GREED GREED steal money from your neighbors through wild WALL STREET speculations

SELL SELL SELL BUY BUY BUY (It is all enslaving crap)

Super Rich becomes more Super Rich, while the middle class becomes poor

College graduates cannot afford a small home and must live in their parents’ basements

Clinton left the United States with a surplus

GOP Republicans have stolen all of the Treasury surplus plus another $3Trillion. Let the trials and confiscation (America versus Super Rich GOP Republican Criminals) begin

The American People will prevail over Super Rich Greedy Lawless Super Rich GOP Republicans

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HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON ANGERED BY SARAH PALIN’S REMARKS

Hillary wants to know if Palin wants to run the United States in the same manner that she and McCain ran their dysfunctional families. With the nomination of hockey mom Sarah Palin, John McCain has official transformed the defunct GOP Republican Party into a circus complete with a lipstick wearing pig clown displaying the IQ of a cockatoo. Hillary added that Sarah Palin’s pathological lies and unprofessional name calling led to the five letter word pertaining to an Arctic hillbilly (P A L I N).

Posted by: dwashington1 | October 7, 2008 4:01 PM | Report abuse

With a guy who calls himself the king of zouk, what else would you expect but right wing radical rhetoric?????? Big news King Z, as a former Hoosier, who now resides in the Buckeye State, Indiana and Ohio will both be going blue this year due in part to complete morons like yourself!

Posted by: janagoodwin | October 7, 2008 3:59 PM | Report abuse

Obama's got one reason for not putting all his policy cards on the table at once: McCain has repeatedly demonstrated that part of his campaign strategy is to expropriate any idea that works for the Obama campaign as McCain's idea.

It would also be wise to examine the relevance of any charge the McCain campaign makes against Obama for relevance to the McCain campaign's own behavior. They routinely (usually falsely) accuse the opposition of the very outrages they practice, in order to expend the public's capacity for outrage against their opponent before they get caught. They've accused Obama of racism, so they now feel free to practice racism themselves. They accuse Obama of associating with unsavory persons to obscure their own disloyal associations.

Democracy doesn't matter to Republicans, they don't really believe in it anyway. The middle class doesn't matter to Republicans; they consider it a sociological aberration, and prefer a more stratified economy as their model for remaking the US. If you want to see where Republicans want to take the US economy, take a look at Mexico.

McCain is incapable of understanding economics. He has committed himself to economic dogma that has blown up in our faces every time we've tried it. Laissez-faire is based on the free-market assumption that "market forces" keep all the players honest, but when a few players are able to dominate all the rest, there's no such thing as a free market, so overconsolidation defeats free-market theory. McCain's economic ideas simply don't work, and are massively destructive to the notion of a middle class.

Posted by: lonquest | October 7, 2008 3:58 PM | Report abuse

McCain is visibly a very angry and antediluvian man, which was amply on display for the entire world to see during the last debate. He and Palin have piled numerous exclamation points on since then by sinking to unprecedented (and I mean really unprecedented) lows while campaigning--their current speeches, especially Palin's, are just venomous, and are frankly creepy. I cannot believe this will play positively to most voters. Obama somehow continues to rise above it all, though, is clearly the more honorable candidate and better human being at this point, and he'll win convincingly...both tonight and in November.

Posted by: Seaglass | October 7, 2008 3:53 PM | Report abuse

Lying: Advantage McCain

Posted by: news-junkie | October 7, 2008 3:53 PM | Report abuse

What a waste of money......


Remember when Obama promised that he would adhere to the public financing schedule?


Another LIE by Obama - now we have to sit through all these additional commercials.


Remember that Obama talks the talk, however when it comes to walking the walk, Obama is no where to be found.


Obama is a FRAUD - his dissing of the public campaign finance structure after pledging to adhere to it is a DISGRACE AND SHOWS OBAMA IS UNTRUSTWORTHY AND THE PUBLIC SHOULD NOT PLACE THEIR TRUST IN THIS AFFIRMATIVE ACTION GUY WHO USED TO BUY COCAINE.

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Posted by: 37thandOStreet | October 7, 2008 3:43 PM | Report abuse

McCain and Palin are really a disgraceful pair. There motto should be "country last," because they could really give a damn what happens to anyone but themselves.

Posted by: MShake | October 7, 2008 3:35 PM | Report abuse

Obama has a definite advantage. I predict that Obama will remain calm, cool, and collected. I predict that McCain may show his other side while smirking. McCain may be an in-your-face to Obama tonight because of trying to make up for the snub that he did the last time.

I am not sure about the no follow-up situation. This could hurt McCain since he will not be able to correct his gaffs right away. McCain's shot first mentality does not allow for quick reloads.

I predict that Obama will come out fine. Let McCain suggest Bill Ayers Rezco, and the like. I imagine that Obama will leave McCain in the gutter. Can you imagine the type of campaign that a war hero is running? It is mind-boggling.

Posted by: EarlC | October 7, 2008 3:33 PM | Report abuse

"Obama/ACORN: ACORN is the very definition of a "community organizer" "

So is Jesus

Posted by: DDAWD | October 7, 2008 3:33 PM | Report abuse

I wonder if McCain will be wearing his depends tonight to catch that load when a young punk audience member asks him about his role in the Keating 5 scandal and how that relates to the current financial crisis.

Posted by: yellow_jacket98 | October 7, 2008 3:31 PM | Report abuse

Reality check, Mccain will not say anything about Obama tonight when on the same stage with him. Mccain is a pathetic little troll who launches attacks through moron stooges like Palin. You watch, tonight he won't say a word, not with Obaba standing there. Obama has already made it clear he is ready for him and if Mccain starts it, Obama is more then ready to finish it. Obama's exact words on the subject. "I don't always throw the first punch but I always throw the last".

Mccain is a joke talking to himself how Obama doesn't understand. He is beginning to look like one of those guys you see standing on the side of the road having a conversation with invisible people.

Mccain I am afraid has become irrelevant. Sorry John, no one want to hear your crap anymore. When this is over you will be a small footnote in history most remembered for this campaign that ended your political career on a low note.

At some point in the near future we will pick up the paper and it will say, "One time presidential candidate John Mccain dies" We will search our memory for a second and say, "I remember that guy, he was that real creep who ran against president Obama" We will laugh and then turn to the sports page forgetting about this horrible little man for good.

Posted by: popasmoke | October 7, 2008 3:31 PM | Report abuse

McCain and palin all pulling out all the stops to and pushing all the hot buttons to incite crowds to harm someone in the media -- or someone black.

This is an extremely dangerous game --especially at a time so reminiscent of the 30s in Germany. Their rallies now sound like something from a Munich beer hall or a Klan meeting.

Posted by: drindl | October 7, 2008 3:24 PM | Report abuse

"and continues to surround himself with the people who are directly reponsible for the mess our country is in..."

Are you suggesting he stop hanging around with Obama, clinton, Frank and dodd. It would be difficult to do his job, but somehow Obama manages. Perhaps he could consider the PRESENT vote that the messiah uses so much.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | October 7, 2008 3:24 PM | Report abuse

Ok its true that Obama isnt that qualified to be president, but an even sadder fact is that people are even less enthusiastic about McCain, McBush, McRNC, so the GOP should of had a different nominee, then maybe they would of had a chance. A new national poll taken by watchdebate.com says that people preffer Huckabee/Palin08
5 to 1 over mccain palin. Matter of fact those polled liked Huckabee/mccain08 over McCain/Palin08 nearly 2 to 1. The problem isnt how bad Obama is, The problem is how bad of a candidate McCain is. See the Poll your self at http://www.mccanes.com/watchdebatevp.html

So no matter how much the GOP crys, and how desperate they get its their own fault for Pushing such a weak candidate. This will be the first time I ever vote Dem and I think Obama is a much stronger candidate then McCain. Funny though, You will never believe who was voted Debator of the year.
http://www.watchdebate.com

Posted by: pastor123 | October 7, 2008 3:24 PM | Report abuse

I wonder if McCain will talk about this tonight?


McCain in April 08 declared that there had been "great progress economically" during the Bush years. On more than one occasion, he diagnosed Americans' concerns over the dismal U.S. economy as "psychological." (Phil Gramm, McCain's close friend and economic adviser supposedly excommunicated over his "Americans are whiners about the economy" remarks, is back on board with the McCain campaign again.) McCain, a man who owns eight homes nationwide, in March lectured Americans facing foreclosure that they ought to be "doing what is necessary -- working a second job, skipping a vacation, and managing their budgets -- to make their payments on time." And when all else fails, McCain told the people of the economically devastated regions in Martin County, Kentucky and Youngstown, Ohio, there's always eBay.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4egXbhSOhk
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In his defense, McCain's shocking tone-deafness may just be a matter of perspective. When you're as well off as he is, anything below a $5 million income (a figure exceeding that earned on average by the top 0.1% of Americans) seems middle class.


*The $100 Million Man*
Courtesy of his wife Cindy's beer distribution fortune (one her late father apparently chose not to share with her half-sister Kathleen), the McCains are worth well over $100 million. (In the two-page tax summary she eventually released to the public, Cindy McCain reported another $6 million in 2006.) As Salon reported back in 2000, the second Mrs. McCain's millions were essential in launching her husband's political career. Unsurprisingly, the Weekly Standard's Matthew Continetti, who four years ago called Theresa Heinz-Kerry a "sugar mommy," has been silent on the topic of Cindy McCain.


*The Joys of (Eight) Home Ownership*
While fellow adulterer John Edwards was pilloried for his mansion, John McCain's eight homes around the country have received little notice or criticism. His properties include a 10 acre lake-side Sedona estate, euphemistically called a "cabin" by the McCain campaign, and a home featured in Architectural Digest. The one featuring "remote control window coverings" was recently put up for sale. Still, their formidable resources did not prevent the McCains from failing to pay taxes on a tony La Jolla, California condo used by Cindy's aged aunt.


*The Anheuser-Busch Windfall*
As it turns out, the beauty of globalization is in the eye of the beholder. While John McCain apparently played a critical role in facilitating DHL's takeover of Airborne (and with it, the looming loss of 8,000 jobs in Wilmington, Ohio), Cindy McCain is set to earn a staggering multi-million dollar pay-day from the acquisition of Anheuser-Busch by the Belgian beverage giant, In Bev. As the Wall Street Journal reported in July, Mrs. McCain runs the third largest Anheuser-Busch distributorship in the nation, and owns between $2.5 and $5 million in the company's stock. Amazingly, while Missouri's politicians of both parties lined up to try to block the sale, John McCain held a fundraiser in the Show Me State even as the In Bev deal was being finalized.


*McCain's $370,000 Personal Tax Break*
Earlier this year, the Center for American Progress analyzed John McCain's tax proposals. The conclusion? McCain's plan is radically more regressive than even that of President Bush, delivering 58% of its benefits to the wealthiest 1% of American taxpayers. McCain's born-again support for the Bush tax cuts has one additional bonus for Mr. Straight Talk: the McCains would save an estimated $373,000 a year.


*Paying Off $225,000 Credit Card Debt - Priceless*
That massive windfall from his own tax plan will come in handy for John McCain. As was reported in June, the McCains were carrying over $225,000 in credit card debt. The American Express card - don't leave your homes without it.


*Charity Begins at Home*
As Harpers documented earlier this year, the McCains are true believers in the old saying that charity begins at home:
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Between 2001 and 2006, McCain contributed roughly $950,000 to [their] foundation. That accounted for all of its listed income other than for $100 that came from an anonymous donor. During that same period, the McCain foundation made contributions of roughly $1.6 million. More than $500,000 went to his kids' private schools, most of which was donated when his children were attending those institutions. So McCain apparently received major tax deductions for supporting elite schools attended by his children.
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Ironically, the McCain campaign last week blasted Barack Obama for having attended a private school in Hawaii on scholarship. That attack came just weeks after John McCain held an event at his old prep school, Episcopal High, an institution where fees now top $38,000 a year.


*Private Jet Setters*
As the New York Times detailed back in April, John McCain enjoyed the use of his wife's private jet for his campaign, courtesy of election law loopholes he helped craft. Despite the controversy, McCain continued to use Cindy's corporate jet. For her part, Cindy McCain says that even with skyrocketing fuel costs, "in Arizona the only way to get around the state is by small private plane."


*Help on the Homefront*
In these tough economic times, the McCains are able to stretch their household budget. As the AP reported in April, "McCain reported paying $136,572 in wages to household employees in 2007. Aides say the McCains pay for a caretaker for a cabin in Sedona, Ariz., child care for their teenage daughter, and a personal assistant for Cindy McCain."


*Well-Heeled in $520 Shoes*
If clothes make the man, then John McCain has it made. As Huffington Post noted in July, "He has worn a pair of $520 black leather Ferragamo shoes on every recent campaign stop - from a news conference with the Dalai Lama to a supermarket visit in Bethlehem, PA." It is altogether fitting that McCain wore the golden loafers during a golf outing with President George H.W. Bush in which he rode around in cart displaying the sign, "Property of Bush #41. Hands Off."
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxT0s_I5WtA
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Posted by: DrainYou | October 7, 2008 3:14 PM | Report abuse

To all of you big mouth spit-bulls, with or without lipstick, if you are so confident in your candidate, go to an online prediction market, say intrade.com, and buy some McCain shares -- they run real cheap these days ($30 vs. $70 for Obama). That way you will be putting your money where your mouth is, plus -- who knows -- you may actually double your payback come Nov. 4 (but don't start whining for a bailout if you lose).

Posted by: ih82blog | October 7, 2008 3:12 PM | Report abuse

KingofZouk

you obviously have not seen the list of people that McCain hung around with at the beginning of his career.

then again just like the rest of your posts

you probably have and just ignore it because those would be bringing reality into your little world.

Mccain has been around a lot of pretty bad people.

and continues to surround himself with the people who are directly reponsible for the mess our country is in...

which makes sense since he is one of those people.

and his policies are the reson.

throw these bums out.

idiots argued us into Bush Cheney

now idiots argue for Mccain palin.

Posted by: klondike2 | October 7, 2008 3:11 PM | Report abuse

The point is not that President-designate Obama is a "close friend" of the unrepentant Ayers, or that he was only eight when his patron was building bombs to kill the women of New Jersey. As Joe Biden would no doubt point out on his entertaining "This Day In History" segment, McCain was only six when Czogolsz killed President McKinley. But I doubt he'd let the guy host a fundraiser for him.

But, in the world in which Obama moves, it would seem absurd and provincial to object to partying with an "unrepentant terrorist." The senator advanced and prospered in a milieu in which men like Ayers are not just accepted but admired for their "passionate participation", and function as power-brokers and path-smoothers. This is a great country, and most of us (as Peter Kirsanow notes below) make it without having to kiss up to America-haters like Ayers and Wright. But not Obama.

Who is this man on course to be 44th president? Apparently, it's not just impolite but racist to ask. As notorious white supremacist Thomas Sowell puts it:

But the country does not deserve to be put in the hands of a glib and cocky know-it-all, who has accomplished absolutely nothing beyond the advancement of his own career with rhetoric, and who has for years allied himself with a succession of people who have openly expressed their hatred of America.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | October 7, 2008 3:06 PM | Report abuse
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With all due respect, People need to know who John Mcain really is and it isn't pretty

JOHN MCCAIN, TRAITOR TO HIS COUNTRY, COLLABORATOR WITH THE ENEMY, MILITARY DISGRACE.
Ted Sampley, a Vietnam Veteran and former Green Beret, issued a CHALLENGE to John McCain "If you can show us that the information presented in our mailer is untruthful . . . we will Stand Down" This CHALLENGE was issued during an interview with INSIDE EDITION on January 17, 2008.
John, family members of Vietnam POW/MIA(s) have been waiting for more then 14 years for you to have the courage to face them eye to eye in front of the American Public - Here is your opportunity for some "STRAIGHT TALK." Stop hiding behind your fabricated "War Hero" persona. You know we can prove your collaborations with declassified government documents . . . It is time for the American people to get to know the REAL John McCain - the John McCain that the POW/MIA families witnessed during the 1991-93 US Senate Select Committee on POW/MIA Affairs .
Bring It On John! HERE IS OUR NUMBER 252-527-0442
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Activists accused McCain of stonewalling the release of POW records because they contained evidence he had collaborated with the North Vietnamese.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MUY9S6iCvk

THE Admiral SON.

In Oct. 26, 1967, the admiral's son while flying his 23rd mission over North Vietnam, once again fell from the sky, this time landing in the hands of a brutal enemy. He was beaten and bayoneted. His shoulder was smashed and his right calf was nearly perpendicular to his knee.
The severely wounded McCain was finally thrown on the back of a truck and hauled to the infamous Hanoi Hilton prison camp. Immediately, his captors began to interrogate him using sadistic methods they had perfected on hundreds of captured U.S. servicemen before him.

His interrogators demanded military information. When he refused, his guards kicked and pounded him mercilessly.
McCain admits that three to four days after he was captured, he promised the Vietnamese, "I'll give you military information if you will take me to the hospital."
McCain also admits that the Vietnamese rushed him to a hospital, but denies he was given "special medical treatment" because of his promise.
He claims he was given medical care normally unavailable to captured Americans only because the Vietnamese learned he was the son of Admiral John S. McCain, Jr., the soon-to-be commander of all U.S. forces in the Pacific including those fighting in Vietnam.

The Vietnamese figured that because POW McCain's father was of such high military rank that he was of royalty or the governing circle in the United States. Thereafter the communist bragged that they had captured "the crown prince"and treated him as a "special prisoner."

Less than two weeks after McCain was taken to a hospital, Hanoi's press began quoting him giving specific military information, including the name of the aircraft carrier on which he was based, numbers of U.S. pilots that had been lost, the number of aircraft in his flight, information about location of rescue ships and the order of which his attack was supposed to take place.
There is also evidence that McCain received "special" medical treatment from a Soviet physician.

After he was out of the hospital, McCain continued cooperating with the North Vietnamese for a period of three years. He made radio broadcasts for the communists and met with foreign delegations, including the Cubans. He was interviewed by at least two North Vietnamese generals one of whom was Vietnam's national hero, General Vo Nguyen Giap.

On June 4, 1969, a U.S. wire service story headlined "PW Songbird Is Pilot Son of Admiral," reported one of McCain's radio broadcasts: "Hanoi has aired a broadcast in which the pilot son of the United States commander in the Pacific, Adm. John McCain, purportedly admits to having bombed civilian targets in North Vietnam and praises medical treatment he has received since being taken prisoner.
McCain says he violated the Code of Conduct only when the North Vietnamese brutally tortured him. He further claims that he was so distraught afterwards that he tried to commit suicide. He has never explained why his "aid to the enemy" continued for more than three years.

Even though there are no reports in the public record from other POWs who witnessed McCain's claims of torture and heroics or his attempted suicide, the American media has accepted his version of events word for word, no questions asked.

Yet, the same press that transformed the admiral's son into an "incredible war hero--an inspiration to all Americans," vilified the two grunts.
Comparing the incidents surrounding the fates of three POWs,' who collaborated with the enemy, makes one question why two faced possible execution for treason, while the third won acclaim as a hero fit to be President of the United States.
Once more, Lady Luck had smiled on John McCain . . . or was it the admiral?

Posted by: popasmoke | October 7, 2008 3:11 PM | Report abuse

It's all but over for McCain. If he goes on the attack, as he has said he will, he looks un-Presidential and that will only depress his popularity further. An enormous part of his original appeal was that he was not a negative-politics-as-usual kind of guy. To abandon that totally eviscerates this positive image and the perception of his supposed honor in the eyes of the voters and replaces it with one more reminiscent of Bush/Cheney.

Obama sounds like a President, talks like a President and acts like a President. He's smart, young, energetic, thoughtful and prudent. He knows his business, he knows the issues and he knows his facts.

It's time to let the younger generation run the show with the wisdom and practicality of Joe Biden to help him. McCain simply acts desperate, angry and irrational. This is not the time for another shoot from the hip make-it-up-as-you-go-along leader backed up by a moose hunter.

John McCain would of been a better President in 2000 than George Bush, but he got screwed out of it by the same tactics McCain embraces today. It's just sad.

Palin/McCain. Thanks, but no thanks.

Posted by: cfeher | October 7, 2008 3:10 PM | Report abuse

SORRY TO REPOST THIS BUT IN LIGHT OF YESTERDAYS HAPPENINGS IN FLORIDA WITH PALIN IT IS JUST TO IMPORTANT.
So if you just tuned in,


Mccain's campaign now begin to function like the Nazi party. I noticed this in their convention.

" You saw that republican convention, it looked like a gathering of the Nazi party. Signs with "Country first" and all the speeches in the effect of "You are either with us or you are not real americans or patriots"
Another good quote from the Nazi's that applies to the republicans is:

Quote:
“…it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship. … All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger.”
- Hermann Goering, founder of the Gestapo and one of the main architects of Nazi Germany.
See anything familiar?

And now this just yesterday.

"Press kept under a watchful eye

CLEARWATER -- Constantly under the watchful eyes of security, the media wasn't permitted to wander around inside Coachman Park to talk to Sarah Palin supporters. When reporters tried to leave the designated press area and head toward the bleachers where the crowd was seated, an escort would dart out of nowhere and confront him or her and say, "Can I help you?'' and turn the person around.
When one reporter asked an escort, who would not give her name, why the press wasn't allowed to mingle, she said that in the past, negative things had been written. The campaign wanted to avoid that possibility Monday."
-- Times staff writer Eileen Schulte

What next, "Do you have your papers". and now the shouts in the rallies of "Kill him, Kill him" as Palin eggs them on.
These are some evil people and we can only use our imagination what kind of white house they would run. They would run the most secretive corrupt white house in history, making Bush and Cheney look like they were an open book.

Posted by: popasmoke | October 7, 2008 3:07 PM | Report abuse

The point is not that President-designate Obama is a "close friend" of the unrepentant Ayers, or that he was only eight when his patron was building bombs to kill the women of New Jersey. As Joe Biden would no doubt point out on his entertaining "This Day In History" segment, McCain was only six when Czogolsz killed President McKinley. But I doubt he'd let the guy host a fundraiser for him.

But, in the world in which Obama moves, it would seem absurd and provincial to object to partying with an "unrepentant terrorist." The senator advanced and prospered in a milieu in which men like Ayers are not just accepted but admired for their "passionate participation", and function as power-brokers and path-smoothers. This is a great country, and most of us (as Peter Kirsanow notes below) make it without having to kiss up to America-haters like Ayers and Wright. But not Obama.

Who is this man on course to be 44th president? Apparently, it's not just impolite but racist to ask. As notorious white supremacist Thomas Sowell puts it:

But the country does not deserve to be put in the hands of a glib and cocky know-it-all, who has accomplished absolutely nothing beyond the advancement of his own career with rhetoric, and who has for years allied himself with a succession of people who have openly expressed their hatred of America.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | October 7, 2008 3:06 PM | Report abuse

kingofzouk sure has a lot of time on his hands, doesn't he? those welfare checks just keep on coming.

But I'm sure the Obama administration will push deadbeats and losers like him off the rolls when he takes office.

'A new Gallup poll finds that just nine percent of the American public are “satisfied with the way things are going in the United States — the lowest such reading in Gallup Poll history. … The previous low point for Gallup’s measure of satisfaction had been 12%, recorded back in 1979, in the midst of rising prices and gas shortages when Jimmy Carter was president.”

Posted by: drindl | October 7, 2008 3:05 PM | Report abuse

"The American people figure this out, as long as you put the facts in front of them." He agreed with my assessment that the Republican Party is not the side you expect to sign off on large taxpayer-backed loans to those with no income, no job, and no assets. The media has spent decades portraying the GOP as heartless tightwads; now we're supposed to believe they were the ones urging Fannie and Freddie to give a half-million mortgage to cousin Louie who you wouldn't loan $200 to. "American voters pile up a knowledge bank." And Obi wonders why some Reaganites "forget to trust the people. They are already starting to figure it out. They dislike the Democarts in Congress already and they eventually sort it all out. Again, the economy can play McCain's way."


"Media bias may be McCain's biggest asset in this race. First, [for the past eight years] they built McCain up into the Maverick hero [every time he disagreed with Bush] and that insulates him from the too-close-to-Bush charge. Then they can't leave Palin alone and she keeps hitting out of the park just as they build her audience up. And now they've decided the election is over and given Obama an eight point lead. So if he starts to fade at any point in the next month that seems like a crash and cause a panic."

"I guarantee you, right now there is some realist in the Obama camp who is petrified of any falloff in the polls. Because if Obama slips, he could fall fast. McCain's already gotten up off the mat once this cycle, when he was supposed to be dead in the primary. He faced a meltdown and it didn't happen; you almost never see candidates and campaigns who can pull out of a crash dive…


Posted by: king_of_zouk | October 7, 2008 3:00 PM | Report abuse

"DDAWD, did you see the constitutional provisions regarding the war power and command of the military that I posted for you last night?"

Yeah, I saw it. Thanks, Mark.

Posted by: DDAWD | October 7, 2008 2:57 PM | Report abuse

Trouble for THE ONE;

Looking Hard at that CBS News Poll...

Either the CBS News poll is an unbelievable, crazy, way-out-of-whack outlier, or McCain isn't actually doing as bad as we thought he was.

They have McCain winning independents, 44 percent to 39 percent. On October 1, it was reversed, 43 percent for Obama to 38 percent for McCain.

Obama's getting 7 percent of Republicans. McCain's getting 10 percent of Democrats. They're about the same among their bases: McCain has 86 percent of Republicans, and Obama's got 85 percent of Democrats. They have a specific subset of voters called "Clinton supporters," where Obama has 66 percent and McCain has 26 percent.

And yet they still have Obama ahead, by 4 among registered voters, among 3 by likely voters.

Now, look, if you offered Steve Schmidt and Rick Davis, a guarantee that:

McCain wins independents by 5 percent
that McCain's share of the Democrat vote will be 42 percent higher than Obama's share of the Republican vote
that McCain carries a quarter to a third of Hillary supporters
and that each guy gets about the same percentage of their base
...I think they would take that deal in a heartbeat. CBS' poll is about 8 percent more Democrats than Republicans. I know the Obama campaign is promising the biggest, most extensive, most expensive and most overwhelming get-out-the-vote effort since... well, the promises of the Kerry campaign. They've spent a ton, and they'll definately get some impact for all the resources they're pouring into it. But will the makeup of the electorate really be 36.5 percent Democrat, 28.3 percent Republican, and 35 percent Independent, as in CBS' unweighted sample?

Just look at the results of the Ohio early voting - a big thud.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | October 7, 2008 2:52 PM | Report abuse

Hey King_of_Zouk, 10 postings per day should be more than enough for you. Now get out of your mother's basement and go play some marbles outside. Seems like your marbles inside need some fresh air.

Posted by: ih82blog | October 7, 2008 2:50 PM | Report abuse

"• There will be no follow-up questions -- either by the audience or moderator Tom Brokaw: Advantage McCain...."

Wanted: a renegade debater who steps forward to point out that his adversary has failed to answer the question posed.

Posted by: FirstMouse1 | October 7, 2008 2:48 PM | Report abuse

gee king is that kind-a of like pardoning good ole Scooter Libby? Connie from "BLUE" Indiana

Posted by: grams1944 | October 7, 2008 2:46 PM | Report abuse

At the debate tonight McCain will want to talk about anything and everything BUT the tanking US economy....and here's one of the reasons why:


McCain knows all about bailing out rich bankers and screwing over middle class and poor people, he's been doing it for years.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAzDEbVFcg8
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McCain - Founding Member of the Keating Five:

McCain was one of the "Keating Five," congressmen investigated on ethics charges for strenuously helping convicted racketeer Charles Keating after he gave them large campaign contributions and vacation trips.
Charles Keating was convicted of racketeering and fraud in both state and federal court after his Lincoln Savings & Loan collapsed, costing the taxpayers $3.4 billion. His convictions were overturned on technicalities; for example, the federal conviction was overturned because jurors had heard about his state conviction, and his state charges because Judge Lance Ito (yes, that judge) screwed up jury instructions. Neither court cleared him, and he faces new trials in both courts.)

Though he was not convicted of anything, McCain intervened on behalf of Charles Keating after Keating gave McCain at least $112,00 in contributions. In the mid-1980s, McCain made at least 9 trips on Keating's airplanes, and 3 of those were to Keating's luxurious retreat in the Bahamas. McCain's wife and father-in-law also were the largest investors (at $350,000) in a Keating shopping center; the Phoenix New Times called it a "sweetheart deal."


Here's some more mavericky straight-talk, my friends:
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http://www.realchange.org/mccain.htm
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Posted by: DrainYou | October 7, 2008 2:45 PM | Report abuse

AMERICAN GOVERNMENT WAS OSAMA BEN LADIN GOOD FRIEND, BUSH MAKE BUSINESS WITH OSAMA BEN LADIN FAMILY...............I MEAN OILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
IS THAT MAKE BUSH A TERRORIST?

GIVE ME A BREAK!!!

NETHERLANDS ANTILLES

Posted by: fu_buki | October 7, 2008 2:43 PM | Report abuse

The recent remarks against Obama are the republicans believing that once again, their fear tactics will force the American people to vote their way. Their character assassination and accusations are desperate measures from desperate politicians… have they scared you? The biggest fear should be McCain/Palin getting into office. I use to respect McCain. I no longer can tolerate him, and Palin is a mere mouthpiece.

Posted by: bowecy | October 7, 2008 2:43 PM | Report abuse

king, please tell us again who McSenile's campaign manager, Rick Davis lobbied and took money from as late as Aug.OBAMA/BIDEN Connie from "BLUE" Indiana

Posted by: grams1944 | October 7, 2008 2:41 PM | Report abuse

Nevada secretary of state's office spokesman said Tuesday that investigators are looking for evidence of voter fraud at the office of the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, also called ACORN.


obama's first offical act as the new president - a full pardon of ACORN and all his other terrorist and crooked friends who have been cooperating in hiding this year. then a presidential directive to ignore all overseas fundraising investigations.

A return to the criminality of the clintons and the competency of carter. expcet the misery index to shoot through the roof.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | October 7, 2008 2:40 PM | Report abuse

Quick! Change the subject! The economy is tanking because of Republican derugulatory policies! What will we do?

I know, let's talk about a guy who bombed something once when Obama was 8 years old. Because people who are losing their jobs and houses really give a sh*t about that.

Republicans are losers, let's face it.

Posted by: drindl | October 7, 2008 2:40 PM | Report abuse

Chris,
I like the title of this post. I think that may prove to be true.
I don't know if my electoral projections were accepted last night when I submitted my map. It said there was an error because I didn't have Adobe Flash Player.
Maybe you can check. Anyway, if it not's there: with where this race is headed maybe you can make a not of my predictions.
We win every state Gore and Kerry carried as well as Nevada and Colorado, North Carolina, Florida, Georgia, Louisiana, Virginia, Montana, Missouri, Indiana, Ohio and West Virginia.
If we win by a conservative five points we're going to carry every swing-state on the map. If we win by six or more (seems probably now) we're going to carry all of those states I listed.
We're going to win 30+ seats in the House, and the way things are going, we're going to pull ahead in Senate races in Mississippi, Georgia, and Kentucky to give us more than 60 seats. I love your blog Chris
Jimmy Dunphy

Posted by: jdunph1 | October 7, 2008 2:39 PM | Report abuse

To king; I guess if something really bad happens ole John Mcsenile will have to suspend his campaign "AGAIN" pick up a gun and go fight for country first.Sic the lipsticked pit bull on them.LOL.Voted early for President Obama. Connie from "BLUE" Indiana

Posted by: grams1944 | October 7, 2008 2:38 PM | Report abuse

You just can't hire incompetent people for the job and then claim ignorance when things screw up.

Posted by: mrtutto


only one problem with your position. It is false.

Bush did not appoint Barney Frank or chris dodd or B husaain Obama - who lined their own pockets while Fannie fiddled.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | October 7, 2008 2:37 PM | Report abuse

DEMOCRAT HAVARD LAW SCHOLAR BARACK OBAMA VS. GOP REPUBLICAN,A D STUDENT OBSCENELY RICH WALL STREET OILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
CRASH EVERY PLANE,MCCAIN.


NETHERLANDS ANTILLES

Posted by: fu_buki | October 7, 2008 2:36 PM | Report abuse

OR THIS ONE!!
4 Weathermen terrorists declare support for Obama
Call for 'grassroots effort' to help boost campaign

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Posted: October 02, 2008
12:20 am Eastern


By Aaron Klein
© 2008 WorldNetDaily


The names of four former top leaders of the Weathermen terrorist organization are listed as signatories on an online petition calling for an "independent grassroots effort" to help strengthen Sen. Barack Obama's campaign.

The petition was initiated by Progressives for Obama, an independent organization acting to ensure the Illinois senator's election.

Progressives includes among its ranks many former members of the 1960s radical organization Students for a Democratic Society, or SDS, from which the Weathermen splintered, as well as current and former members of other radical organizations, such as the Communist Party USA and the Black Radical Congress.

"We agree that Barack Obama is our best option for president in 2008, and that an independent grassroots effort can help strengthen his campaign," states the online petition. "It can also strengthen the mandate for his programs for stopping war, promoting global justice and securing our rights, liberties, and economic well-being."

(Story continues below)


Among the names signed onto the petition are former Weathermen leaders Howard Machtinger, Jeff Jones, Steve Tappis and Mark Rudd.

Machtinger was a Weathermen founder and was co-author of the terror group's original mission statement, which called for "revolutionaries within the United States to wage a 'people's war' and attack from within. The government would fall and 'world communism' eventually would be instituted."

Jones, according to his own website, was "elected, along with (Weathermen terrorist) Bill Ayers and Mark Rudd, to the SDS national office. Then, in the spring of 1970, he disappeared. As a leader of the Weather Underground, Jeff evaded an intense FBI manhunt for more than a decade. In 1981, they finally got him. Twenty special agents battered down the door of the Bronx apartment where he was living with his wife and four-year-old son."

Jones' site says he traveled to Cambodia in 1966 to meet with high-level leaders of the anti-American National Liberation Front. In 1967 and 1968 he served as an SDS regional organizer for New York City.

Contacted by WND, Jones said he is not involved in any Obama advocacy.

Tappis was one of 11 people who signed the original Weathermen statement, which was infamously titled, "You Don't Need a Weatherman to Know Which Way the Wind Blows."

Rudd, a petition supporter as well as a main signatory to the Progressives for Obama group, was one of the main founders of the Weathermen terrorist organization. A biography published on his website explains Rudd worked to form the Weathermen as a radical alternative to the SDS and for white Americans to eject their "white skin privilege" and begin "armed struggle" against the U.S. government.

Rudd went underground in 1970, when a bomb exploded in a townhouse in Greenwich Village in New York City, killing three of his comrades. He lived for seven and a half years in hiding as a fugitive, finally surrendering in 1977, facing only low-level state charges after federal charges against Weathermen leaders had been dropped. He resurfaced as a teacher in New Mexico.

As late as 2005, Rudd wrote an editorial in the Los Angeles Times lamenting the state of the antiwar movement in the U.S.

more Weathermen controversy for Obama.

All former Weathermen leaders who signed the pro-Obama petition worked closely for years with Weathermen terrorist William Ayers, whose association with Obama has generated controversy for the presidential candidate.

The Weathermen took responsibility for bombing U.S. governmental buildings in the 1970s.

Trevor Louden of the New Zeal blog commented, "Clearly Bill Ayers and his wife, Bernardine Dohrn, are not the only former Weathermen backing Obama. Add their old comrades Jeff Jones, Howie Machtinger, Mark Rudd and even Steve Tappis to the mix and you are starting to get beyond coincidence. That former terrorists are working with Marxist groups to elect Barack Obama is beyond doubt."

Progressives for Obama, which initiated the online petition, first published its creed in March in the Nation magazine, explaining the organization descended from the "proud tradition of independent social movements that have made America a more just and democratic country."

Progressives for Obama stated it can help the Illinois senator's ascent to highest office by contributing funds, using the Internet to reach "millions of swing voters;" defending Obama against negative attacks and making its agenda known at the Democratic National Convention.

"Progressives can make a difference in close primary races like Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Oregon and Puerto Rico, and in the November general election," the founders state.

The founders stress it is crucial to form a grassroots leftist movement to ensure Obama does not stray too far to the center, claiming other grassroots liberal movements have successfully pressured U.S. presidents into creating new policy:

It was the industrial strikes and radical organizers in the 1930s who pushed Roosevelt to support the New Deal. It was the civil rights and student movements that brought about voting rights legislation under Lyndon Johnson and propelled Eugene McCarthy and Bobby Kennedy's antiwar campaigns. It was the original Earth Day that led Richard Nixon to sign environmental laws.

And it will be the Obama movement that will make it necessary and possible to end the war in Iraq, renew our economy with a populist emphasis, and confront the challenge of global warming. We should not only keep the pressure on [Obama] but also connect the issues that Obama has made central to his campaign into an overarching progressive vision.
The group was founded by four individuals with ties to extremist groups:

Tom Hayden, a former state senator who was a founder and principal organizer of the SDS. Discover the Networks notes Hayden, previously married to actress Jane Fonda, traveled many times to North Vietnam, Czechoslovakia and Paris to strategize with communist North Vietnamese and Viet Cong leaders on how to defeat America's anti-communist efforts.


Bill Fletcher, a former Maoist and current leader of Democratic Socialists of America or DSA. The New Zeal blog notes Fletcher was also a founder of the Black Radical Congress, closely linked to the Communist Party USA, which advocated for "progressive social justice, racial equality and economic justice goals within the U.S.


Barbara Ehenreich, an honorary chairman of DSA who was formerly active in antiwar movements in which some notorious radicals took part.


Actor Danny Glover, a member of the Black Students Union, who has visited Venezuela, making guest appearances on President Hugo Chavez's television and radio talk show. He reportedly has accepted loans of about $20 million from the Venezuelan government to make a movie about a Haitian revolutionary leader.
The Progressives for Obama webmaster is Carl Davidson, a former vice president of the Students for a Democratic Society, who has traveled to Cuba to meet with Fidel Castro.

The signatories and endorsers of the Obama activist group, listed on the Progressives website, include scores of well known communist, socialist and anarchist activists and former SDS members.



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Posted by: blevins20061 | October 7, 2008 2:35 PM | Report abuse

As I write this post, I am watching President Bush talking about the wall street bailout and laughing and cracking jokes. I want to vomit.... He is responsible for this, but you wouldn't know it by listening to him. You just can't hire incompetent people for the job and then claim ignorance when things screw up.

Posted by: mrtutto | October 7, 2008 2:35 PM | Report abuse

John McCain is starting to panic.

Posted by: euroguy | October 7, 2008 2:34 PM | Report abuse

Let me make a bold prediction. sometime in the last week before the election there will be some sort of international event that disposes the voting public to bail out on Obama. It could have been georgia, when he was voting PRESENT, as usual. Perhaps a terror attack by his buddy ayers. Or even a video from his fundraising base - Osama bin Laden.

this will be too late for the angry left media and the desperate spinners of lies on the left to "correct" the record. the voters will understand that Mc Cain may not be all that, but we know what he stands for.

the amusing apsect of it is that the enemy - terrorists, graft grabbers, etc, want very badly for Obama to win to advance thier cause, but they have about the same sense of right and wrong as the Libs and think that a video declaring the wish for Obama to win as not alienating the american voters.

A poll of different countries resulted in every country but one wanting Obama to win. the hold-out - USA.

so as long as Mccain keeps it close, the election is not over until it's over. the voters will be petrified at having the three stooges running the country - Pelosi, Reid and Obama. not one of them able to lead or even find their way out of a wet paper bag.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | October 7, 2008 2:33 PM | Report abuse

I am so ready for the debate tonight, I hope to see McSenile's face turn red and his eyes pop out and see steam come out of his mouth.OBAMA/BIDEN 08
Connie from"BLUE" Indiana

Posted by: grams1944 | October 7, 2008 2:31 PM | Report abuse

Zouk will still be refusing to acknowledge Obama's success on November 5. Not worth pointing out to him that Obama only needs to hold the Kerry states from 2004 and add one of many now in play. Ohio would put him over the edge alone, but it is obvious that Obama is taking many, many more states this election than Kerry or Gore.

Posted by: esmerelda123 | October 7, 2008 2:29 PM | Report abuse

zouk pants:

In a sign that the race for president has returned to about where it was before the first presidential debate, the Obama-Biden ticket leads the McCain-Palin ticket 47 percent to 43 percent among registered voters in a new CBS News poll.

The Obama-Biden ticket led by a wider margin, nine percentage points, in a CBS News poll released last Wednesday, before Joe Biden and Sarah Palin faced off in the vice presidential debate. Obama-Biden led by five percentage points on Sept. 25.

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Poor Zouk...clutching at polling straws....

Seven of the yesterday's new national surveys tracked previous surveys from the same pollster completed since September 30. Five the the seven showed a gain of at least a point for Obama. The two exceptions were Diageo/Hotline (no change since their last non-overlapping sample) and CBS News (a one-point narrowing of Obama's lead among likely voters).

5 out of 7.

Poor ol pick-and-choose Zouk.

Posted by: wpost4112 | October 7, 2008 2:27 PM | Report abuse

Obama will win. McCain has to be getting desperate, and he does so poorly when he is desperate. McCain may try some sort of crazy "Hail Mary pass," which will be seen for what it is. Again, Obama will be the rational, composed one, which makes his likelihood for a gaffe small.

Posted by: Byron5 | October 7, 2008 2:26 PM | Report abuse

I'll start taking Palin seriously when she proves that she can do something more than read a tele-prompter and use note cards....you know, when she does something like...give a PRESS CONFERENCE!!!


The first rule of American Politics, Don't lie to the Media:

On Sunday, in an interview with CNBC and the New York Times, Mr. McCain responded to a question about Rick Davis’s (McCain's campaign manager) role in the advocacy group by saying that his campaign manager “has had nothing to do with it since, and I’ll be glad to have his record examined by anybody who wants to look at it.”
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http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/24/us/politics/w24davis.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin
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Rule Two: Don't lie to the Media

One of the giant mortgage companies at the heart of the credit crisis paid $15,000 a month to a firm owned by Senator John McCain’s campaign manager from the end of 2005 through last month, according to two people with direct knowledge of the arrangement. The disclosure contradicts a statement Sunday night by Mr. McCain that the campaign manager, Rick Davis, had no involvement with the company for the last several years.
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Rule Three: Don't lie to the Media:

They said Mr. Davis’s his firm, Davis & Manafort, was kept on the payroll because of Mr. Davis’s close ties to Mr. McCain, the Republican presidential nominee, who was widely expected by 2006 to run again for the White House....
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjEadwYUoFw&feature=related
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Freddie Mac’s roughly $500,000 in payments to Davis & Manafort began immediately after Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae in late 2005 disbanded an advocacy coalition that they had set up and hired Mr. Davis to run, the people familiar with the arrangement said....


Rule Four: Don't Lie to the Media:

After the Homeownership Alliance was dissolved, Mr. Davis asked to stay on a retainer, the people familiar with the deal said. Hollis McLoughlin, who was chief of staff to Richard F. Syron, Freddie Mac’s chief executive, arranged for a new contract with Davis & Manafort, at the reduced rate of $15,000 a month...\
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuylCah4sKM&feature=related
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No one at Davis & Manafort other than Mr. Davis was involved in efforts on Freddie Mac’s behalf, the people familiar with the arrangement said.

Posted by: DrainYou | October 7, 2008 2:24 PM | Report abuse

To king, Please do not underestimate the intellect of us on the left,when we have been trying to find out if the right has an IQ that can be measured given you people gave us Bush twice.Remember the old saying fool me once shame on you ,fool me twice shame on me.So hang with us on the left were going to elect a president with a measurable IQ.OBAMA/BIDEN 08
Connie from "BLUE"Indiana

Posted by: grams1944 | October 7, 2008 2:20 PM | Report abuse

DEMOCRAT HAVARD LAW SCHOLAR BARACK OBAMA VS. A D STUDENT OBCENELY RICH WALL STREET OILLLLLLLLLLLLLL CRASH EVERY PLAN,MCCAIN.

NETHERLANDS ANTILLES

Posted by: fu_buki | October 7, 2008 2:17 PM | Report abuse

In a sign that the race for president has returned to about where it was before the first presidential debate, the Obama-Biden ticket leads the McCain-Palin ticket 47 percent to 43 percent among registered voters in a new CBS News poll.

The Obama-Biden ticket led by a wider margin, nine percentage points, in a CBS News poll released last Wednesday, before Joe Biden and Sarah Palin faced off in the vice presidential debate. Obama-Biden led by five percentage points on Sept. 25.

In the new poll, the Democratic ticket leads by 3 percentage points, 48 percent to 45 percent, among likely voters.


a return to the mean. In other words, Obama is still not a sale. could it be all his associates are evil? that all his ideas are stale old 60s splurge liberalism? that his attempt at surrender and humiliation is not forgotten?

Posted by: king_of_zouk | October 7, 2008 2:17 PM | Report abuse

Why aren't we talking about this story WP!!

"The government of Kenya is holding WND senior staff reporter Jerome Corsi in custody at immigration headquarters after police picked him up at his hotel just prior to a scheduled news conference in which he planned to announce the findings of his investigation into Barack Obama's connections in the country," WND reports.

"Corsi, the author of the No. 1 best-selling book The Obama Nation, was picked up by authorities at his hotel at 9:45 a.m. and is being detained at Nyayo House, the provincial headquarters for Nairobi.

"'Just as we were about to start the 10 a.m. press conference at the Grand Regency Hotel in Nairobi, Kenyan immigration approached us and detained us,' Corsi told WND by telephone this morning. 'Tim Bueler, my publicist, and I are now in the immigration offices, with our passports taken.

Posted by: blevins20061 | October 7, 2008 2:15 PM | Report abuse

Milbrooks, I am always happy when you show up.

The question is no longer whether Obama will win, but only by how much. I will still hold my breath for four weeks though since I do not trust we will be free of voting snafus and attempts to circumvent public will. McCain has been the greatest source of his undoing in this matter.

I also have to give kudos to AsperGirl for thinking it through. Too many people on both sides are blindly heading one direction or the other.

My greatest fear at this point is how crazy the Palinites will become in the next four weeks, what with instructions at rallies to African American sound guys to "sit down boy" and calls to "kill him" when referring to Obama. People are nuts.

Posted by: esmerelda123 | October 7, 2008 2:14 PM | Report abuse

PERSONAL TO TOM BROKAW:

Please ask the candidates about whether the current financial crisis could be an outgrowth of the misuse of federal power:

TARGETING OF AMERICANS BY GOV'T AGENCIES
A ROOT CAUSE OF WALL STREET MELTDOWN?

Once again, Congress rushed through emergency legislation -- socializing the capital markets, ceding effective control of the economy to the government.

Officials continue to blame lax lending policies on the part of the mortgage industry for spawning this crisis.

But were lenders ORDERED to offer "easy credit" to people "targeted" by government agencies?

Is government "extrajudicial targeting" of American citizens a root cause of the mortgage meltdown that spawned the broader financial crisis?

And is there a disinformation campaign underway to blame the Democrats, instead of ideologues who have hijacked federal agencies as their tool of "social engineering?"

Consider this:

http://www.nowpublic.com/world/targeting-u-s-citizens-govt-agencies-root-cause-wall-street-financial-crisis OR
members.nowpublic.com/scrivener

Posted by: scrivener50 | October 7, 2008 2:13 PM | Report abuse

Irrespective of tonight's "debate" the election isn't over by a long shot. While Muleman strongly supports Obama (and respects McCain even in the face of his current campaign tactics, most of which are the invention of disciples of Rove), one can never underestimate the depths to which those disciples will go to win.
Obama needs even thicker skin as the brickbats get nastier and more ferocious.
Tonight he might imply that winning the election would be an easier task than that which would face him if victorious. Governing under the current difficulties will be challenging in the extreme.

Posted by: muleman | October 7, 2008 2:12 PM | Report abuse

extreme, rash, impulsive and angry McCain.

Posted by: drindl


drindl confuses her many psychotic personalities aqain and projects. here we have on display the intellect of the left.

these are the same nitwits who believe that surrender leads to victory.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | October 7, 2008 2:11 PM | Report abuse

and think about what this economic mess that these policies of the last 8 years brought on

this global economic crisis based on Bush Mccain policies is going to do to terrorism

think about what it would say to our allies if we elected the guy believing in those same policies?

as we need their help to fight this war on terrorism and every other conflict going.

ugh

stupid people argued for Bush Cheney

now the same logic being used for McCain Palin.

Posted by: klondike2 | October 7, 2008 2:10 PM | Report abuse

king of zouk


are you arguing for Mccain of 2000

or McCain 2004?

just not sure ... because you can't be voting for both faces.

I mean I know they both want to be president...but the latter one...really doesn't have any qualities of a "man of principle"

as we have clearly seen by his "adapting"

lol

it must be hard to argue for Mccain palin still

kind of the like the guy still hanging out singing we are the champions after his team lost and the janitors are shutting out the lights.

Posted by: klondike2 | October 7, 2008 2:07 PM | Report abuse

Anyone who can look at what has happened to our country over the last eight years and say, "Yes, I want some more Republican government" is lost to sense or reason.

McCain has only downside potential tonight. Performing great won't help him, a mistake will just hasten his decline.

Posted by: nodebris | October 7, 2008 2:06 PM | Report abuse

The real danger in the White House is the extreme, rash, impulsive and angry McCain.

Posted by: drindl | October 7, 2008 2:04 PM | Report abuse

The old phrase "criminal conspiracy", an accurate description of the Republican Party and all who believe in the shallow claptrap and nonsense spouted by the NeoSoviet leadership of that nest of snakes.

Posted by: mibrooks27 | October 7, 2008 2:01 PM | Report abuse

The old phrase, "a man of high ideals but no principles," is one that applies all too painfully to Barack Obama today. His words expressing lofty ideals may appeal to the gullible but his long history of having no principles makes him a danger of the first magnitude in the White House.

sowell

Posted by: king_of_zouk | October 7, 2008 1:55 PM | Report abuse

McCain is living in the illusion. It's not so much that Obama will win this debate it's that McCain will do himself in with a poor performance. He really is clueless on the economy and attacking
Obama as not ready to lead will backfire. Sarah Palin continues to be an embarrassment and his continued insistence that she is ready to step in shows thinking people his poor judgement.
She is as ready to be VP as Harriet Myers was to be a supreme court justice. Give it up John, and accept the roll of the party's
"sacrificial lamb" The Reps have had 8 years to demonstrate their incompetence and they have succeeded to do so quite well.

Posted by: Billy7 | October 7, 2008 1:54 PM | Report abuse

Tonight's townhall meeting is irrelevant unless there is a major gaffe by Obama. If the election was held today, Obama would win by 190 electoral college votes. Negative adds will only soil McCain's reputation as an honorable man, and unfortunately he will never regain the stature he once owned. Even McCain has to realize that with this type of attack adds he could not govern with a Democtatic Congress he if he was to win. Mc Cain should go out and campaign for Republican con gressmen that are in trouble of losing their seat.

Posted by: Masonglenn | October 7, 2008 1:54 PM | Report abuse

"Aspergirl, Barack Obama does not have to fall on some ridiculous spin about being bi-racial. If he discusses the economic issues in the real way he has been for weeks, he will do fine on this debate."

Posted by: LABC | October 7, 2008 1:35 PM

I don't think Obama has anything to offer economically. He just is better than McCain because McCain's demonstrated incompetence in the subject area is worse than Obama's inexperience in it. Obama hasn't been saying anything real in economic policy leadership. He doesn't have to.

Posted by: AsperGirl | October 7, 2008 1:53 PM | Report abuse

I just don't see McCain pulling out the decisive win he needs in tonight's debate.

I'm inclined to vote for Obama now, because Obama's inexperienced economic policy incompetence stacks up well against McCain's experienced economic policy incompetence. The difference between Obama's economic policy incompetence and McCain's is that, McCain being a senior, matured political leader and still being incompetent in these matters means he will likely not overcome his deficits in economic policy leadership. At least Obama's inexperience-based economic policy incompetence can be overcome as he develops, and hopefully there is a chance he can mature in this subject area ASAP. At least Obama has a chance of developing the skills he needs to provide good executive leadership in this crisis, whereas McCain, as an old dog, seems to be more able to flail around than to learn new tricks.

As the result of McCain's obvious failure to prepare himself for these economic issues despite their percolating all year and being likely to blow up at any time, I'm not sure I can vote for him under the present circumstances.

McCain's blunders in economic policy leadership totally undermine his experience-beats-style-focused campaign against Obama. I really don't think he can hold onto any of Clinton's experience-is-important supporters (of which I was one) after this. He would have to totally and decisively rehabilitate himself in economic policy leadership and for reasons I described in my previous post in this thread, I don't seem him being able to pull that off.

Posted by: AsperGirl | October 7, 2008 1:50 PM | Report abuse

Tonight could be the end of the line for McCain. He's really set himself up badly with all the sleazy negativity in the midst of an economic crisis. He's abandoned any pretense of being a serious candidate for national leadership, and I hope the questioners call him on it. I also hope Obama finds a way to provoke some acid response from McCain by pointing out that he's been doing nothing but putting sleaze first, not country, at this perilous time. I also encourage everyone to read this outstanding cover story in this week's Rolling Stone: http://www.rollingstone.com/news/coverstory/make_believe_maverick_the_real_john_mccain

Posted by: eidolon | October 7, 2008 1:47 PM | Report abuse

Palin's attacks on Obama's so-called "relationship" with former Weatherman member, Bill Ayers, a "domestic terrorist", who never killed anyone and who was never convicted of anything and whose actions took place when Obama was 8 years old, have verged on racist as she claims that Obama "doesn't see America as you and I do".

At a rally yesterday, a crowd member screamed, "Kill Him" as Sarah laughed and cheered with the crowd.

A fake sherriff waddles to the podium after peeeuuu and calls out Barack Hussein Obama to the crowd to further boos and chants of kill him...

At a McCain rally, he asked, "Who is Barack Obama?" and a crowd member yelled out "Terrorist" as McCain held that silly smirk on his addled face.

This reprehensible type of political campaigning is typical of the desperation the Republican Party finds itself in, as their numbers in the polls fall like the stock market...

peeeuuu palin and her husband are closeted facists and traitors...and again so is Vietcong propaganda model McCaint...

What is the Alaskan Independence Party?

The A.I.P. sympathized with Timothy McVeigh.

Founder Joe Vogel: “The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government", “and I won't be buried under their damn flag." (Joe Vogel is buried in Canada.)

“I’m an Alaskan, not an American. I've got no use for America or her damned institutions." Joe Vogel – Founder.

Dexter Clark, vice chairman of the A.I.P.: refers to the American soldiers in Alaska as "occupying troops."

Michael Hill, a representative of A.I.P., stated on Glen Beck’s program that the goal of the A.I.P. is to dissolve the United States and the Constitution.

This is Sarah Palin’s and the Republican Party’s version of patriotism and love of country.
........peeeuuuu

"First Dud", Todd Palin, registered with the Alaskan Independence Party in 1995 and remained a member for seven years. "Besides a short period of a few months in 2000 when he changed his registration to undeclared, pheww Palin remained a registered member of AIP until July 2002 when he registered again as an undeclared voter."

The AIP was founded in 1984, but its website doesn't begin listing officers until 1992, when its founder, Joe Vogler, "Disappeared"... in 1992, body found in May 1994."

As I have written in a previous blog...the same Joe Vogler who turned-up dead in a Fairbanks gravel pit, the victim of a "plastic-explosives sale gone bad", according to his murderer.

Sarah Palin addressed the Alaskan Independence Party Convention a little over 6 months ago, happily telling its attendees that she shared its "vision of upholding the Constitution of our great state", curiously not mentioning the Constitution of the United States.

She encouraged AIP to "keep up the good work".

The AIP website enshrines on its website a tirade from Joe Vogel that concludes with this statement.....

"We (the Alaskan Independence Party) ask that a courageous member of the United Nations sponsor us to appear before the General Assembly to present our case, that we may be restored to the list of Non-Self-Governing Territories so that we may eventually secure our right to self determination. We would also like to take the matter before the International Court of Justice if such is feasible."

...Now them's a fightun words.....

As for Wasilla, Alaska, it is STILL called the Methamphetamine capital of Alaska...oh also did you know that it is legal to possess under 3 ounces of Marijuhana in that state as well....

Sarah Sez..."gotta keep 'em stoned and stupid"

peeeuuu Palins 80% approval rating..yea, now I can see why...

A Skinhead Sherriff
Crowds chanting for human blood
A Woman in White....

Facism will come to us by a Bible in the right hand and a semi automatic rifle in the left.....

Alaskan Drug Enforcement under Palin proved uneffective...

http://www.usdoj.gov/dea/pubs/states/alaska.html

Thanks but no thanks to McCaint and peeeuuu Palin for their treachery and further traitorus encounters

Posted by: AlexP1 | October 7, 2008 1:45 PM | Report abuse

kingofzouk a disgusting lying racist rightwing propagandist?

you betcha.

Posted by: drindl | October 7, 2008 1:38 PM | Report abuse

To all those with good intentions trying to talk some sense into these Obamacrats, give it up. They won't listen. They are so brainwashed that if the headline read tomorrow" OSAMA BIN LADEN FOUND hiding in Barack Obama's basement" these zombies would still find an excuse to vote for him.

Character and patriotism doesn't matter to them, as long as their boy wins.

Smart Democrats for McCain/Palin 08
Join the movment!

Posted by: blevins20061 | October 7, 2008 1:37 PM | Report abuse

Did you see the stunt the republicans did this week. They sent the guy who wrote a negative book about obama to Kenya. Then somebody drop info to local goverment of who this guy is. All of a sudden Obama, kenya, and american being ejected is in the news. Nice little manipulation of public opinion and open loaded gun there republicans. Whats next black ops and killing people to suit your own personal gains. Re-writing amendments and manipulating policys. Oh wait a minute George Bush been doing that for 8 years. George W and Rudy G keep using the same excuse 9/11. Republicans new word to strike fear into joe sixpack and steal his rights and freedoms.

Posted by: ccrowley | October 7, 2008 1:35 PM | Report abuse

Aspergirl, Barack Obama does not have to fall on some ridiculous spin about being bi-racial. If he discusses the economic issues in the real way he has been for weeks, he will do fine on this debate. If McCain harps on the earmarks and the maverick label (please, someone ask what maverick vote has he made in the last eight years that went against this administration?), he will lose the audience.

Otherwise, I generally agree with your assessment.

Posted by: LABC | October 7, 2008 1:35 PM | Report abuse

How was this audience screened? Obviously this is a Southern Pro-McCain City where he leads Obama. Why are these debates taking place where the Republican "base" resides?

Posted by: snman37922 | October 7, 2008 1:35 PM | Report abuse

loans for unqualified borrowers - you betcha

offices for unqualified candidates - you betcha

committee chairs for unqualfieid congressmen - you betcha

bail-outs for unqualified bankers - you betcha

college degrees for unqualified students - you betcha

sit-downs with unqualified rogue regimes - you betcha

tax refunds for unqualified non -payers - you betcha

bosom buddies with unrepentant terrorists - you betcha

tax hikes in a feeble economy - you betcha

runaway spending on liberal programs - you betcha

supporters who can't spell their own name - priceless.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | October 7, 2008 1:33 PM | Report abuse

John McCain is an angry, warped frustrated old man. He is using the same tactics he employed in Vietnam---annihilate the enemy. The only enemy of John McCain is John McCain. He offers America nothing. No plans, no solutions, no vision and no hope. Barack Obama gives us a plan, viable solutions, a vision and hope. Hope that this country has not seen or felt for eight long and torturous years under the Bush-McCain Republican party. McCain just does not get it. He is out touch, out of step with the times, and a dangerous risk to the future of this country. McCain has chosen to go down the very dirty and ugly path of attempting to destroy Barack Obama’s reputation, character and values. It is going to be failed attempt because America’s eyes have been opened very widely into McCain’s true character. He has shown himself repeatedly to be erratic, explosive, ill-tempered, irresponsible and untrustworthy. His is the politics of a desperate man fighting a losing battle. Instead of the White House we should be sending McCain to the Retirement House and the inept Sarah Palin back on the proverbial moose she road into town on to Alaska. The outdated and uninspiring McCain-Palin ideas, principles and ideologies will better serve us all by being put to rest. Barack Obama is the best and brightest thing to happen to and for this country in decades. Young, old, black, white, yellow, Democrat, Republican, Independent. He is representative of all of us. He cares and he understands. We NEED Barack Obama.

From the Hockey Mom’s and Joe Six Pack’s of America

Posted by: hopelives | October 7, 2008 1:32 PM | Report abuse

Well just for kicks I thought I take a moment to post my opinion ONCE - ON TOPIC. At the risk of getting personal – I have other past-times that I find more rewarding than bickering without end. Volunteering for my candidate of choice being one example. It’s left as an exercise to the reader to identify those that passionately support a candidate or cause – with their words but not their deeds. If I seem dispassionate in this silly post - well I’ll let the reader speculate the cause.

I think people are more concerned about their own financial well-being than they have in a long time. 60% think a depression is ‘likely’. Do they even know what that means??

Obama’s mission is simple: Keep on keeping on. I think his calm reasoned demeanor will be a source of reassurance to a nervous nation. He should not hesitate to delve into a mountain of statistics and numbers, and - if circumstances allow – he should also try and explain the details. Not that the voter in the street needs to follow the detailed minutia – no one really understands tax policy – but coming across as having a thought-out plan is what people would like to see in a president, I think.

McCain’s the one that needs “a game changer”. As Chris has reminded us – politics is perception. The reception is now that Obama has hit his stride and his campaign has got it going on, while McCain’s campaign is stalled in the ditch. Trouble is that McCain’s gone to that well once too often. Maybe he could try suspending his campaign again. Or invent a co-vice president and make another irresponsible personnel decision.

McCain can do himself the most good by acting as civil and respectful as he’s capable. If he’s seen getting all flustered and fidgety – it’ll only make Obama seem that much more self-assured. If he can turn his passion towards making an emotional connection with little people struggling to make ends meet – that would be something to exceed my expectations.

McCain’s inevitable personal attacks will be met with Obama’s theme of “out of ideas”, “too much a stake” and “changing the subject”, but I suppose there’s not much left for McCain to do aside from dwelling on Obama's shortcomings.

Posted by: DonJasper | October 7, 2008 1:31 PM | Report abuse

All McCain and Palin are trying to do lately is change the subject from the broken economy caused primarily by Phill Gramm and his deregulation of the financial industry -- you know, the guy McCain wants to make his Treasury Secretary.

And the way they are doing that is by raw racism. I cannot beleive that anyone with any integrity whatsever could possibly support the beast that McCain has become.

Posted by: drindl | October 7, 2008 1:30 PM | Report abuse

McCain stupidly announced in advance that he's going to launch more attacks tonight. So now Obama is laying in wait for him.

Either McCain goes ahead and attacks, and Obama decks him.

Or he pulls the punch and stays on the issues...and Obama decks him.

Posted by: HelloDollyLlama | October 7, 2008 1:30 PM | Report abuse

Like Cris Cillizza the Democratic Party--controlled MSM believes and keeps telling us that "...(the) continuing economic crisis: Advantage Obama", which is probably true but shouldn't be because the MSM hasn't investigated how this "economic crisis" actually came about, surprise, surprise. The most reliable news outlet is Fox News who did a special over the weekend that clearly showed that the Democrats were primarily responsible for this crisis. It was they who forced banks to make bad mortgage loans to people who had no way of paying these loans back under threat of law suits for discrimmination, banks red-linning, and racist lending practices. It was they who forced banks to accept a persons welfare check and the value of their food stamps as a persons income to qualify them to purchase houses that they would normaly not be qualified for. In 2003 and 2005 President Bush and the Republicans in congress who forsaw this meltdown coming and wanted to prevent it with stricter controls, saw their bills defeated because EVERY DEMOCRAT IN THE SENATE VOTED AGAINST IT, INCLUDING OBAMA AND BIDEN!!! Now after the do-do has hit the fan, this mess we're in now is--according to the in-the-tank-for-Obama-MSM--Bush's and the Republicans fault. The sad thing is that the MSM, who are supposed to be the watchdog of the people, has not done their job to tell people the truth about what has happened and has instead censored and covered up the facts in order to rig the election for Obama and Biden who were in fact part of the problem to begin with. I ask you: 1)- why would the economy, now in the tank because of this on-going economic crisis, be an "ADVANTAGE FOR OBAMA AND THE DEMOCRATS IF IT WAS OBAMA AND THE DEMOCRATS WHO CAUSED THIS CRISIS TO BEGIN WITH? 2)-WHY WOULD THE AMERICAN PEOPLE TRUST THE PARTY THAT CAUSED THIS ECONOMIC CRISIS, VOTE INTO POWER THE VERY PEOPLE WHO WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR IT AND NOT THE PEOPLE WHO WANTED TO PREVENT IT? Answer: The Democratic Party--controlled MSM has been able to sit on the causes of this economic crisis in order to protect their party from all political fallout and truth and facts don't matter to them anymore. Their countries interests have become secondary to their political parties.

Posted by: armpeg | October 7, 2008 1:30 PM | Report abuse

Lets hope McCain can finally tell us how he is going to help the country and less about who Obama has crossed paths with.

Anybody see Charles Gibson last night in Ohio. Seems even the republicans are voting for obama, because john won't talk about what he is going to do Now, instead of what somebody does with somebody else back when the economy was good.

Independent for Obama '08 thru'16

Posted by: ccrowley | October 7, 2008 1:29 PM | Report abuse

It appears that at least some people think that McCain needs to score a decisive win tonight to stop his bleeding.

Since I just don't see how McCain will be capable of providing any convincing words on the economy, given his incompetence and inconceivable lack of preparation so far this year on economic issues, I don't see how he can do that.

Obama can just revert back to saying "I'm biracial", "hope" and "change", and that would be enough for him to win.

I just don't see McCain coming up with anything meaningful to show economic leadership, because (1) he seems truly economically incapable even for a Congressman and (2) no one else in our government is showing wise economic leadership or engaging in any useful discussion of these issues, so he'd have to be out ahead of the real pros like Bernanke and Paulson (even if McCain criticizes them and is right, he'd have no credibility and no one would understand him anyways).

This is a crisis in which it's very difficult for professional economic leaders to demonstrate the right intelligent leadership, in which no one's sticking their neck out to discuss or criticize these bailouts, and in which McCain seems to be intellectually disadvantaged in this subject area.

I just don't see it happening for McCain.

He should have prepared himself on economics and not gambled on it not blowing up before election day. That is a strategic blunder of fatal proportions.

Posted by: AsperGirl | October 7, 2008 1:26 PM | Report abuse

Obama will rattle McCain's cage. McCain will stutter and haltingly try to answer stuff. Obama will look presidential. McCain will, as always, look like Santa's lost uncle. As the night deepens, the specter Palin as President will cause people to start hyper-ventilating. It's over for the KeatingFifth and his cheerleader from Mooseville.

Posted by: medogsbstfrnd | October 7, 2008 1:21 PM | Report abuse

By the way, Palin has no problem with that word. Maybe someone should ask her what she means when she calls people "Arctic Arab" in Alaska?

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Obama wil win tonight , you betcha! Obama has been trying to stick to the issues but those darn republicans keep spouting nonsense, trying to distract from what big fat losers in heels they are! palin's comment saying Obama is "palling around with terrorists is untrue as well as dangerous and irresponsible. having the crowd at her her rallies , and the ol' curmudgeons rallies for that matter, calling out that Obama is a terrorist and worse, someone shouting out "kill him" in reference to Senator Obama is OUTRAGEOUS, and dare I say Palin and Mcsame are substituting the word terrorist for another word they couldn't possibly get away with calling Obama, it is thinly veiled racism that they are spewing at their rallies and it is a disgrace and an embarrassment to America and to the Republican party, 'cept the republicans are to busy tryin' to appeal to Joe sixpack and Hockey Moms to notice how low they have sunk.

Posted by: mertisrules | October 7, 2008 1:11 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: popasmoke | October 7, 2008 1:17 PM | Report abuse

About the AIP and Sarah Palin:

We still have a long way to go in the election. I am SURE that before long, we will be seeing a documentary (or two) about Sarah and the AIP and the quotes from the Radical Founder of the AIP.

Joe Biden will be back. His mother-in-law just died, bless his heart. But when he comes back, HE can talk about Sarah's problems.

We've only known Sarah for a few weeks. It takes a little time for the investigative journalists to dig enough REAL dirt up and write about it.

Just wait until the report about her abuse of power comes out. We want to have a well-rounded view of this woman, and she is still a work in progress. LOL. And getting better and more bizarre every day, I might add!!

Hah, and the full moon is next week. Sarah will turn into a werewolf-ette. Hide and watch!! She can't keep her racist mouth SHUT!

No, we have not heard the last about the racist, AIP secessionist, treasonous traitor Sarah Palin and her hubby, Todd of the Tundra.

Posted by: mavisdarling | October 7, 2008 1:15 PM | Report abuse

It is shameful how a McCain, an honorable war veteran with so many years of service to this country, has now turned into a mean spirited, erractic, liar who has given up honor for power. It seems there is NO bottom to how low he will stoop. SHAMEFUL!!! Wake up, America - he's more of the same - lies, misrepresentations, distortion, fear mongering!. Haven't you had enough??? OBAMA/BIDEN '08

Posted by: mec31 | October 7, 2008 1:14 PM | Report abuse

One of the most positive developments in this campaign has been that voters seem to have sobered up--lies (thanks in part to the press) don't as easily become truth through sheer repetition, and people are less easily taken in by buzz words and catchy smears. Although I don't think this is solely because of the Wall Street problems, certainly that situation puts more at stake for people. For the first time in many years, I expect that most people will base their decisions less on theatrics and the culture wars, and more on a reasoned judgment about whose ideas make more sense. Yes, a knockout punch would be entertaining, and I wouldn't mind delivering it to the Republicans myself--but in the long run, I think the winner will be whoever presents credible solutions to very serious problems. And I think that's the way it should be. Maybe crisis can bring out the best in voters.

Posted by: sjohnston1 | October 7, 2008 1:13 PM | Report abuse

King of Zouk writes: "Just as you were willing to accept borrowers with no qualifications, you are now ready to accept a President with no qualifications.

when the trouble starts, as is guaranteed, you will go running to the rest of us to fix your mistakes and somehow try to find a way to blame it on Repubs, despite all the evidence."

No, but that's certainly what you republicans are living with today. You elected a dolt, and controlled congress for 10 years and took down all barries to protect consumers, and then came running to us for help.

Psychologist have a term for it. It's called projection (as in projecting you failure onto others). I call it being an idiot.

Posted by: jimcummings | October 7, 2008 1:12 PM | Report abuse

pro36 - If you had any brains, you would prefer anyone in the WH to the Neomarxist traitors that compose the NeoCon's like McCain.

Posted by: mibrooks27 | October 7, 2008 1:12 PM | Report abuse

Obama wil win tonight , you betcha! Obama has been trying to stick to the issues but those darn republicans keep spouting nonsense, trying to distract from what big fat losers in heels they are! palin's comment saying Obama is "palling around with terrorists is untrue as well as dangerous and irresponsible. having the crowd at her her rallies , and the ol' curmudgeons rallies for that matter, calling out that Obama is a terrorist and worse, someone shouting out "kill him" in reference to Senator Obama is OUTRAGEOUS, and dare I say Palin and Mcsame are substituting the word terrorist for another word they couldn't possibly get away with calling Obama, it is thinly veiled racism that they are spewing at their rallies and it is a disgrace and an embarrassment to America and to the Republican party, 'cept the republicans are to busy tryin' to appeal to Joe sixpack and Hockey Moms to notice how low they have sunk.

Posted by: mertisrules | October 7, 2008 1:11 PM | Report abuse

Barack Obama will do very well tonight! John McCain may try to go negative, but I feel it will only backfire on him. Barack will be confident, relaxed and presidential; expect McCain to look desperate.

I am proud to be a supporter of and volunteer for Obama/Biden '08!!!

Posted by: bankswilkinson | October 7, 2008 1:11 PM | Report abuse

McCain's going to find himself mostly preaching to the converted, if he pursues the tactics his campaign's been pursuing on his behalf. The Atwood/Rove/Schmidt strategy of reducing an election to a propaganda war can be defeated. So I hope, anyway. Everything depends on Americans using their heads when they go vote.

McCain has a less than usually credulous audience for his dogma this year. Americans are awake to the fact that we're in real trouble, and there's at least a shred of hope that we'll look past simplistic assertions that (falsely) equate capital formation with job creation.

Even in the face of a vivid real-life demonstration that laissez-faire dogma doesn't work, McCain has nothing else to turn to, and no credibility if he tries. All he can do is to try an lock down the stupid vote. Thus, the unwelcome truth from the McCain campaign: "If we keep talking about the economic crisis, we’re going to lose."

McCain himself said it well, albeit a few years ago (and about GW Bush(: "If you run nothing but negative ads, you must not have much to say about how you're going to move the country forward, or you must not be ready to talk about it."

McCain has nothing to offer but a campaign strategy he himself has declared bankrupt.

Now, about Pastor Thomas Muthee, witch hunter, ecclesiastical terrorist, and Palin associate, who she invited to perform a ritual laying-on of hands, purportedly to protect her from witchcraft, and to whom she offers credit for her Governorship.

Or we could mention both Palins' ties to the Alaska Independence movement, a nest of radical separatists led by a man whose greatest motivation is his hatred toward the United States of America.

But let's try to be relevant, and talk about the bankruptcy-inducing laissez-faire economic philosophy to which McCain remains committed, and the way its failure was the direct cause of the twentieth century's Great Depression.

Or we could talk about McCain's dedication to the dubious premise that capital formation, fostered by investor-class tax cuts, necessarily produces domestic economic growth, when recent history proves that the benefits of the Bush tax cuts have been of no benefit to the domestic economy because most of the proceeds have been invested in foreign economies.

Or we could talk about the free-trade policies that place the American worker in dollar-for-dollar competition with the world's poorest labor markets, and the crushing impact such trade policies have on workers with an elevated standard of living, including workplace safety standards and wages above the poverty line.

Or we could talk about what benefit Americans can hope to reap from the trillion-dollar-scale costs of the Iraq war, which has, so far, empowered Iran anf utterly failed to produce a stable Iraq, and for which McCain offers only a strategy of perpetual occupation -- a strategy the Iraqis will not perpetually tolerate.

So far, I have yet to identify a point of substance on which McCain can have a winning debate, so I guess he'll spend the session trying to bloody Obama up.

"If all you can run is negative attacks, you must not have a real vision for moving the country forward, or don't want to talk about it." -- John McCain

It's hard to say what's wrong with the McCain campaign better than McCain did himself.

Posted by: lonquest | October 7, 2008 1:09 PM | Report abuse

you are right about the independent undecided voterz king. Watch the dials plummet just like their 401ks when McCain starts his attack tonight with a smile king.Independents detest attacks which is exactly McCain's hail mary strategy.

"In what could be the filthiest final weeks of a modern Presidential contest, McCain will not be content with repeating the falsehood that Obama is a 'liberal' who will raise 'your taxes.' No, the final tact from a purely tactical campaign will be personal and ugly."

its over and McCain needs to start his rehabilitaion for his return to the Senate. The only question left is whether he will lose in a landslide and with any dignity left. Traditionally the undecided late voters break disproportionally towards the challenger, the party out of power which means landslide numbers. With the economy in shambles you can expect that result however much wishing and lib garbage you post. Its over. In this toxic economy Senator Bernie Sanders would defeat McCain.

Posted by: leichtman | October 7, 2008 1:06 PM | Report abuse

TO: king_of_zouk, who posted:
So keep it up, Sarah, and maybe others will follow your courageous example.


Your ROYAL Majesty:

IF, there had not been 'reports' of the hate that was incited by this individual, I would almost laugh.

However, your 'courageous' candidate's IRRESPONSIBLE and INDEFENSIBLE remarks are stirring comments such as, "Kill Him".

This is the SAME courageous individual who prior to being nominated, wanted to be transparent and held accountable by her constituents regarding TrooperGate and now, is too 'busy' to be interviewed by the investigator or to testify....WHY does that sound SO familar????

She brings us Reverends to Kristol and I cannot stop singing, "I saw the witch doctor, he told me what to do" for HER very own Rev. Thomas Muthee who when laying hands on her prayed to keep her 'safe from witches'....Oh Ee, Oh Ah Ah, Ting Tang Walla Walla Bing Bang....SEE LINK BELOW....

And, Your Majesty, she has HER VERY OWN Domestic Terrorist, HER very OWN, First Dude, who was an ACTIVE member in the Alaskan Sessationist Party (until she began to run for Public Office) and she wasn't even 8 years old at that time. Gee, she even made a video for THAT group - just last year.....

So, King, courage - not so much....

Hypocrisy? You BETCHA'!!!!!!

Everyone sing, Oh Ee Oh Ah Ah, Ting Tang Walla Walla Bing Bang....

Sarah saw the witch hunter, he told her what to do. She saw the witch hunter, he told her what to say....

Yup, she's just a 'REAL' regular Hockey Mom and I've got a SUPER DUPER Bridge to NOWHERE for you to buy along with that Bullpucky you've swallowed WHOLE!

http://blogs.thetimes.co.za/minor/2008/09/25/sarah-palin-thomas-muthee-and-witchcraft-on-youtube/

Posted by: DariMD | October 7, 2008 1:05 PM | Report abuse

king_of_zouk: The debate is aimed at ALL Americans, doofus.

King, dude, you are sooooooo very angry!! Why?

Here's what will happen tonight:

The Cool Head will be telling Americans how he plans to help save their 401K plans.

The Hot Head will be "taking off the gloves" to do a character assassination that Hillary already failed at.

It's a no-brainer who will win. McCain is running on empty. (My apologies to Jackson Browne.)

Oh, and I forgot to say: Obama has such a soothing, presidential voice. LOVE that deep, smooth, awesome voice of his.

McCain, on the other hand, sounds sort of high and whiny and uncannily like George Bush.

Subliminal messaging, folks.

Posted by: mavisdarling | October 7, 2008 1:04 PM | Report abuse

i'm a young independent but watching how people becoming severely blind about bias "facts" is scary and harmful to our nation, who is suffering at this moment. i don't want my future be torn into pieces because of prejudices... and it seems our America hasn't come too far when people using indirect accusations to cover their racist remarks, it's truly sad. Obama working with a radical professor for non-profit projects is radical yet hardly anyone crys foul when Palin's husband supports the organization that wants to declare Alaska as a country... that's no radical? just because he's caucasian? travelling the world for work, i can't understand how people believe our great country can progress and even lead the world when we are so bogged down by pitty and narrow-minded, prejudice beliefs. Good luck! i hope to hear substance pertaining to the future of our country in tonight's debate, otherwise, both loss the debate. last, i don't truly buy the polls around the country since racism apparently still run steep strong in our beautiful country and here we are, trying to promote our democracy works to other Arab, communist countries... who's doing the convincing?

Posted by: abc2008 | October 7, 2008 12:59 PM | Report abuse

McCain and the GOP are irresponsible with the future of our nation.

Country first.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3i5T301aAWg

Posted by: sobugged1 | October 7, 2008 12:59 PM | Report abuse

It is funny it is like they have kept it a secret that Obama has had over 250 town halls. Anyone who has been watching Obama for the last year and thinks he can be tricked or fooled are the fools. I know for a fact Obama has been looking forward to this debate. I love the idea of the physical contrast on the same stage and this is not lost on Obama either. Obama will look like he is already president as Mccain looks like a troll, patrolling around the stage. Mccain will come off as almost a frightening image and regardless what he says, this strange troll like image will be what people will remember.

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americanactive: I think you pegged it about the debate tonight. McCain is going to flounder. Obama will be in his element. McCain has a hard time sharing a stage with Obama. He wears his emotions on his sleeve.

Posted by: mavisdarling | October 7, 2008 12:47 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: popasmoke | October 7, 2008 12:58 PM | Report abuse

king of zouk

you are getting funny

trying to call Obama supporters

"pea sized brains"

c'mon idiots got us the last 8 years arguing for Bush Cheney

and those same idiots are now arguing for Mccain Palin

same team

same tactics

9th year.

Posted by: klondike2 | October 7, 2008 12:57 PM | Report abuse

the debate tonight is not aimed at you liberal moonbats. you have already made up your pea sized brain and will vote for the messiah no matter what.

the undecided voters are still in play and are surely going to consider whether the messiah is worth the risk.

Just as you were willing to accept borrowers with no qualifications, you are now ready to accept a President with no qualifications.

when the trouble starts, as is guaranteed, you will go running to the rest of us to fix your mistakes and somehow try to find a way to blame it on Repubs, despite all the evidence.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | October 7, 2008 12:54 PM | Report abuse

".. Besides, McCain is looking increasingly uncomfortable, as befits one who knows the game is over..."

Yes.

I'm wondering how McCain's multiple personalities will do tonight.

Last time both MrGrumpy and MrCreepy both showed up!!!

But now that McCain is INTENTIONALLY taking the show negative, I imagine MrCrazy will make an appearence also.

Posted by: plaza04433 | October 7, 2008 12:52 PM | Report abuse

To all the the genius's who think they've hit onto something heretofore unthought of when they shrilly scream "racism" because the overwhelming majority of blacks are voting for Obama. First, take a deep breath and check your underwear for wetmess. Secondly, break out a dictionary...., (oh that's right, don't own one), then go online an look up the definition of racism. Third, realize that racism isn't voting for candidates like you. In fact its a truism that people like people like them. It's not racism. Here, I'll do the work for you: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racist

Posted by: bflagg | October 7, 2008 12:52 PM | Report abuse

I'd bet hb316's prediction comes the closest: "Obama never delivers the knockout. Tonight will be no different. He'll just continue playing prevent defense, and McCain will throw a few ineffective jabs even though what he ought to be doing at this point is folding up the tent and trying to bow out with grace."

I think he's right... point here is that Obama doesn't NEED to deliver a knock-out blow, at this point, just "keep on keepin' on"...he's doing fine.

Republicans for Obama!

Posted by: Iconoblaster | October 7, 2008 12:50 PM | Report abuse

They want to play "Six degrees of separation" with Obama. Using that logic I have connections to Hitler, Manson, The Boston strangler, John Gotti, even Al Capone who was friend of my fathers. This game can be played with almost anyone.

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The debate-town hall: Why no follow up questions? Who set those rules? The debate commission -- and if so, has it always been done that way?

About Ayers and the Weathermen:

If Obama's relationship with Ayers is guilt by casual association, what about the hundreds of university students who have taken his classes? Isn't he an education prof? So therefore, would all the university students "terrorist ties?"

Posted by: brigid1 | October 7, 2008 12:41 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: popasmoke | October 7, 2008 12:48 PM | Report abuse

americanactive: I think you pegged it about the debate tonight. McCain is going to flounder. Obama will be in his element. McCain has a hard time sharing a stage with Obama. He wears his emotions on his sleeve.

Posted by: mavisdarling | October 7, 2008 12:47 PM | Report abuse

The debate-town hall: Why no follow up questions? Who set those rules? The debate commission -- and if so, has it always been done that way?

About Ayers and the Weathermen:

If Obama's relationship with Ayers is guilt by casual association, what about the hundreds of university students who have taken his classes? Isn't he an education prof? So therefore, would all the university students "terrorist ties?"

Posted by: brigid1 | October 7, 2008 12:41 PM | Report abuse

Edeldoug wants us to not overlook Annenberg, so lets review two points: (1) Walter Annenberg was appointed Ambassador to the Court of St. James (England) by a Republican president -- Richard Nixon and (2) The Annenberg Foundation provides funds to be used to reform elementary and secondary education. This is a private foundation. Both Senator Obama and Professor of Education William Ayers served on the Chicago board related to the Annenberg Foundation. I think it's quite commendable that the Annenbergs cared enough about the education of our youth that they established a foundation to support educational reform. So, edeldoug, what's so bad about being connected to the Annenberg Foundation?

Posted by: marmac5 | October 7, 2008 12:40 PM | Report abuse

king_of_zouk: Blah, blah, blah. Blather, blather. Nobody is going to read that post. Dream on.

Posted by: mavisdarling | October 7, 2008 12:40 PM | Report abuse

"We can't change the system with someone who's never fought the system.”
John McCain in reference to Barack Obama.

Last time I checked McCain has been claiming that Obama is the most "liberal" member of the senate, and last time I checked the last 8 years have been dominated by Republican/conservative policies, so, which one is it John? you can't have it both ways.

Posted by: JRM2 | October 7, 2008 12:40 PM | Report abuse


Chris:

IMO, the candidate who explains and offers his vision for HOW to get us out of this economic morass will win tonight's debate.

I would like to have anyone explain Sen. McCain's health care plan to me....

Especially the part about HIS / 'our' tax credit from him going straight to the insurance companies as sited on his Presidential website. HOW does that give us a tax credit?

I've read that ANY overage/balance is LEFT on account with the insurance company AND we get to pay taxes on healthcare IF we receive coverage through our employer as additional income.

http://content.healthaffairs.org/cgi/content/full/hlthaff.27.6.w472/DC1

Posted by: DariMD | October 7, 2008 12:40 PM | Report abuse

I think the debate will surprise everyone tonight. A town hall forum is viewed as a positive for McCain--he thinks so too--but he does not have a sea of yes men in tonight's audience as he would out on the campaign trail. Obama is a terrific advocate, thinks on his feet, and knows how to take pressure. I think he will do far better than McCain and use the town hall format to his advantage. McCain is on rocky ground tonight. His recent low ball tactics on the campaign trail (along with Sarah Palin's) will keep him on an adrenaline edge. His previous calm came out of a belief that he had superior experience and background. Tonight he knows he's on the moral low ground--a position he knows he can't defend--which will make him defensive and short tempered. He will also be sparring on a subject he admits he knows little. Do not be surprised if he looks confused and "over-amped" when he tries to defend his economic plans or healthcare positions. Like Palin, he may simply announce he is going to change the subject. For this audience and in the current economic and political climate, I don't think "rah-rah" is going to cut it tonight, and that will likely be McCain's undoing.

Posted by: americanactive | October 7, 2008 12:39 PM | Report abuse

The proliferation of personal attacks on Senator Obama (especially including the regurgitation of so many that have already been thoroughly repudiated) is a symptom of the desperation of the McCain camp.

Expect great clouds of smoke to be blown about, with the names of Ayers and Rezco, and loaded words like "terrorist" and "patriot" and "liberal" and "traitor" tossed around in contexts utterly divorced from reality or meaning (beyond intentionally misleading implications).

The symmetrical answer to Mrs Palin's diatribes about Bill Ayers' conduct in the dim and distant past would be remarks about her own and her husband's friendly political associations with the man who said: "The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government. And I won't be buried under their damn flag."

Yes, indeed, lets talk about radicalism and people who hate the American flag, Mrs. Palin.

Posted by: Iconoblaster | October 7, 2008 12:39 PM | Report abuse

Re:.Everybody knew by now that Obama BROKE th LAW when he bought that house in Chicago together with criminal REZKO.No need to cover the facts"

It's never about the facts with you guys; believe it because we say it. When Gee-sus comes back to run the gummamint you no need to look at the facts kind of guys are the first one's to be thrown in the pit. Good Luck, God knows you'll need it.

Posted by: bproulx45 | October 7, 2008 12:37 PM | Report abuse

Poor Zouk.
His precious Ohio has gone Obama.
His bitterness turns blacker by the day.
Poor poor Zouk.

Posted by: wpost4112 | October 7, 2008 12:37 PM | Report abuse

Man, I get to thinking the only thing republicans have left to do is smear obama's name and character by distorting and embellishing the facts. Statistics are BS and can be distorted to say whatever you want until the whole truth comes out anyhow. I just wish that Americans were more concerned with the issues at hand and current policies, and less concerned with who someone had associations with. We can play that game all day and I'm sure if you dig in the dirt long enough you're bound to unearth something. But, honestly how much does all that matter. No one is perfect especially not politicians. But, it seems to me that Obama is the only one actually talking about how to change the distress our country is in. Who knows if his plans will work or not, atleast he's thinking/trying. I would really be interested to hear some republican strategies for fixing the energy problems, or the financial crisis, or anything for that matter. All I hear about is how Obama's unfit, but he's the only talking about the issues. So far, in my opinion, he's the only one that is qualified to lead.

Posted by: wishfulthinking1 | October 7, 2008 12:36 PM | Report abuse

king_of_zouk:
I live in France, and trust me, socialized medicine works.

I pay 35 euro/month in healthcare taxes, and got an MRI last year for six euros. Last week I got an endoscopy and coloscopy at a private clinic with a top doctor, and paid 18 euros out of pocket.
My heartburn meds (Lanzor) cost me 7 euro/ month.

Posted by: franglais | October 7, 2008 12:36 PM | Report abuse

Judging from the first Presidential debate and the VP debate, the winner will be the candidate who understands that sticking to the talking points doesn't cut it.

Posted by: exco | October 7, 2008 12:35 PM | Report abuse

Why aren't two very scary items receiving coverage in MSM? At McCain Palin rally yesterday they threw out so much red meat and got them so worked up that the "base" was close to a race riot, an African American camera man was threatened and told to "sit down boy". Clearly McCains strategy is, as Chris Mathews pointed out on Hardball last night, to link together-Ayers and the word "terrorist", Obamas middle name said over and over, and the search for foreign donors on his donorbase. He is trying to make the case by illogical logic that Obama is a terrorist and he wants violence. They are so powercrazed and desperate McCain and Palin, or as Bill Maher refers to her, Governor Avon Lady, want blood. McCain looked vaguely afraid at the rally yesterday as they yelled, "kill him", meaning Obama. You can tell from McCain's body language (not looking at Obama during the debate) that he loathes him, and I mean personally, and probably racially. Scary stuff.

Posted by: logicaldog1 | October 7, 2008 12:34 PM | Report abuse

pro36: Umm, wow. Calling people names like a first grader on the playground is not scoring you any points.

Apparently, Americans are not too concerned about Obama's associations or he wouldn't be ahead in this race. This is OLD news people are bringing up. Obama has addressed these concerns already, MANY times. Where have YOU been? Watching Bullwinkle re-runs on TV? Yeah, thought so.

YOU need to take a spelling lesson and an anger management class. Nobody will take you seriously until you GROW UP.

Posted by: mavisdarling | October 7, 2008 12:34 PM | Report abuse

pro36,

If Obama broke the law, why wasn't he charged following an investigation.

Possibly - because he DIDN'T break any law, and Rezco had not been charged or convicted of ANYTHING at the time the Obama's bought their property.

As to the Weathermen, it is unfortunate that we had to resort to violence to get our government's attention back then. It was a frightening and painful time. But there was a stupid war that needed to stop, and finally we got it done.

That's why I say Ayers is more patriot than terrorist.

Samuel Adams, Boston Tea Party? Founding Fathers?

Posted by: BudG024 | October 7, 2008 12:34 PM | Report abuse

Pro36, you're an idiot!

Posted by: Ritalisa | October 7, 2008 12:34 PM | Report abuse

the reports coming out of the Palin rallies

scary scary scary...

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Agreed.

When she first appeared, I saw her as Tom DeLay in drag, and that seems to have proved true. Those two will turn the USA into a fascist state in a barracuda minute if given the chance.

I'm just glad the country is getting a full dose of her as a warning.

Posted by: wpost4112 | October 7, 2008 12:32 PM | Report abuse

mavisdarling-
Darling, I hope you're right!
The AIP and her connections are so much more relevant than that of some six year kid's to yet another 60's era war protester.
Plus at least now Ayers has reformed and is a respected professor.
Can't say that for the AIP.

Posted by: franglais | October 7, 2008 12:31 PM | Report abuse

Obama never delivers the knockout. Tonight will be no different. He'll just continue playing prevent defense, and McCain will throw a few ineffective jabs even though what he ought to be doing at this point is folding up the tent and trying to bow out with grace.

Posted by: hbg16 | October 7, 2008 12:31 PM | Report abuse

We must reject the Democrats' convenient talking point that McCain and Palin can't walk and chew gum at the same time. That if they focus on Ayers, they can't explore Wright, Rezko, Raines, ACORN, the Democrats' primary culpability for the financial crisis, the evils of socialized medicine, the danger to America in Obama's retreat-and-defeat foreign policy, or his hostility to the free market.

Indeed, we must applaud Sarah Palin for standing up to her opponents and returning hostile fire. We're ready for her to lead the charge, not only on Obama's sordid relationships but also in articulating the monumental differences between the liberal and conservative approaches to governance.

These national Democrats must be kidding when they complain about incivility or dirty politics. They've written the book on partisan incivility during the past eight years with their ceaseless avalanche of lies in service to their psychotic catharsis against George W. Bush and Dick Cheney.

But Republicans don't have to resort to dirty politics to score points against Obama and Biden. They just need to get the truth out.

We see Democrats driving around with their snarky bumper stickers, "Had Enough?" and think to ourselves: "Yes, we've had enough of the lies. We've had enough of the assault on traditional values and the sanctity of life. We've had enough of tearing America down. We've had enough of the mainstream media being in the tank for Democrats and Barack Obama -- then shamelessly denying it. We've had enough of Bush Derangement syndrome. We've had enough of their resistance to taking the terrorist threat seriously. We've had enough of the class and race warfare that threaten the social fabric of our society and the economic underpinnings of this nation. We've had enough false allegations of voter intimidation from Democrats who turn right around and threaten criminal prosecution against those who criticize their presidential candidate. We've had enough of liberal candidates deceitfully denying their liberalism. We've had enough of incendiary charges of racism against Republicans such as Sarah Palin for daring to suggest that Barack Obama doesn't see 'America like you and I see America.'"

They must quit knuckling under to the opportunistic demonization of achievement, profit and free-market forces. They must resist the patronizing pandering to "the middle class." They must oppose environmental Stalinists, who will destroy our way of life and our economy based on false, sensationalized and disputed science and who demonize anyone who challenges their orthodoxy. They must call down those who insist on pooh-poohing the terrorist threat and downplaying the essential moral distinction between the forces of good and evil in the world. They must protect our borders despite the dishonest charges of racism and nativism. They must protect our Constitution from activist judges.

Now is not the time for conservative politicians to go wobbly, even if some conservative commentators are. It is the time to fight back -- to challenge the fundamental assumptions of liberalism and to underscore the threat it represents to this country.

So keep it up, Sarah, and maybe others will follow your courageous example.


Posted by: king_of_zouk | October 7, 2008 12:30 PM | Report abuse

Really, what law?

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Do we really have to go through this again?
Yes we have to go there.Dont lie to us.Everybody knew by now that Obama BROKE th LAW when he bought that house in Chicago together with criminal REZKO.No need to cover the facts

Posted by: pro36 | October 7, 2008 12:23 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: popasmoke | October 7, 2008 12:29 PM | Report abuse

Unless the questions are on the issues, I sure hope our friends in other countries won't be watching. Because it won't be pretty if it degenerates into personal attacks like the ad campaigns.

I'm afraid the last few weeks of the campaign will be an embarrassment to the candidates, their parties and to the public as well.

In my battleground state, we haven't seen a positive campaign commercial from McCain/Palin in several weeks. As an ex-Navy guy, I cringe when I see McCain wearing the Navy cap as he tries to dismember his opponent's character. All the respect I had for him in 2000 has dissipated with this campaign.

My wife and I are talking about turning off the TV until after the election; we can always watch our favorite shows in reruns in the spring. The political commercials, both nationally and locally, are depressing to those of us who take our right to vote seriously.

Posted by: bulldog6 | October 7, 2008 12:29 PM | Report abuse

I am old enoygh to remember from real live not dstorten news stories. There were a lot of people like Ayers who hated the Viet nam war, myself included.
It should also be noted that Ayers was "NEVER" charged or convicted of "ANYTHING".
He as a non issue as you could bring up. I am surprised he isn't suing someone.

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Get over the Obama/Ayers thing. Most people don't care. The Vietnam War was very unpopular and Ayers was a young man protesting what he found to be a despicable conflict, just as many Americans did. Besides, it was 40 years ago. The man is certainly not a terrorist now. Anyone with a brain can see that.

Ayers is a respected university professor now, and has done much good charitable work. THAT was the focus of Obama's association with him. Period.

This Ayers/Obama connection is a non-issue. Palin keeps harping on it, but she is preaching to her own deluded choir. The people who show up at her rallies are called "fans", which is short for FANATIC.

Need I say more?

And as far as the "Chicago Political Machine".... geez Louise. The current Republican Party is a Karl Rovian Political Machine if I ever saw one. How else did Bush manage to get elected for two terms?

I say bring on the Chicago Machine, baby! If that's what it takes to fight fire with fire, then bring it on!!

Posted by: mavisdarling | October 7, 2008 12:20 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: popasmoke | October 7, 2008 12:28 PM | Report abuse

clearthink:

You obviously don't think very clearly. Ayers is NOT a terrorist. What he did 40 years ago is in the past. He was not convicted of ANYTHING. He was a war protester. If you really think that Obama is a terrorist because he associated with a university professor named Bill Ayers, then you need to take some meds or something.

Posted by: mavisdarling | October 7, 2008 12:28 PM | Report abuse

Get over the Obama/Ayers thing? U retard.Its also Rezko ,Rev Wright,Scumbag Axelrod and many many more.U liberals should shut the f..k up and be prepare to face the truth about Ur Lamobama

Posted by: pro36 | October 7, 2008 12:28 PM | Report abuse

Re:"Obamah is a joke. A hater."
Who is this Oba-mah you speak of and why should we care if he wears a hat?

Posted by: bproulx45 | October 7, 2008 12:27 PM | Report abuse

At this point, the McCain campaign’s goal should be to raise doubts about Obama’s trustworthiness, and thus ability to lead. This will require a strategy and a tactic. The campaign’s strategy should be to attack from all directions: character, past associations, political practice in Chicago, “present” votes, lack of a record of accomplishment. It should question what it means for a law professor to leave no academic paper trail, yet produce two well-written autobiographies.

Our troops are busy bombing civilians and killing babies. they need to have their funding cut off. that will show them!

Posted by: king_of_zouk | October 7, 2008 12:25 PM | Report abuse

Top Ten List
John McCain's ideas for getting out of runnning for president:

10. Hire disastrous campaign managers
9. Run out of money
8. Shia? Sunni? What's the diff?
7. Get W's endorsement
6. Hang out with Joe Leiberman & Phil
Gramm
5. Cancel on Letterman in September
4. Rush to Washington to save the
economy
3. Pick Sarah Palin as running mate
2. Pull out of Michigan
1. Go on Letterman in October

Posted by: Rivery | October 7, 2008 12:25 PM | Report abuse

republicans lie for fun

Posted by: DaveMiner | October 7, 2008 12:24 PM | Report abuse

franglais: I do believe Alaska will be in the news by the end of the week. We are just waiting for the report about Sarah's abuse of power.

Her AIP connections will surface again, I am positive. The more she opens her big mouth about Obama's connections, the more we will hear about HERS.

Posted by: mavisdarling | October 7, 2008 12:24 PM | Report abuse

The revelations of Obama's past alliance with the terrorist Bill Ayers is becoming quite troubling to many women who have been leaning towards him.

The economy is highly important, but terrorism is often a more fundamental concern.

Posted by: clearthink | October 7, 2008 12:23 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin palling around with secessionists:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eniG9l_7its

Palin has spoken repeatedly at conventions of the AIP, or Alaskan Independence Party.

The founder of the AIP was a man named Joe Vogler. Here's what he had to say in a 1991 interview, only a few years before Palin attended its convention: "The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government."

He also said this: "And I won't be buried under their damn flag. I'll be buried in Dawson. And when Alaska is an independent nation they can bring my bones home."

Vogler has also said: "I'm an Alaskan, not an American. I've got no use for America or her damned institutions."

McCain apologists will argue that Sarah Palin was not a member of this group. But Obama wasn't a member of any Ayers anti-American group, either. And again, Palin repeatedly courted the AIP, and her husband was a member for years.
And she wasn't six years old when all this happened.

Posted by: franglais | October 7, 2008 12:23 PM | Report abuse

now it turns out pallen is faking her you becha accent to sucker the rubes as she likes to call them. she obviously considers her base to be quite dumb.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhdUCHuxvAc

Posted by: DaveMiner | October 7, 2008 12:23 PM | Report abuse

Do we really have to go through this again?
Yes we have to go there.Dont lie to us.Everybody knew by now that Obama BROKE th LAW when he bought that house in Chicago together with criminal REZKO.No need to cover the facts

Posted by: pro36 | October 7, 2008 12:23 PM | Report abuse

SORRY TO REPOST THIS BUT IN LIGHT OF YESTERDAYS HAPPENINGS IN FLORIDA WITH PALIN IT IS JUST TO IMPORTANT.
So if you just tuned in,


Mccain's campaign now begin to function like the Nazi party. I noticed this in their convention.

" You saw that republican convention, it looked like a gathering of the Nazi party. Signs with "Country first" and all the speeches in the effect of "You are either with us or you are not real americans or patriots"
Another good quote from the Nazi's that applies to the republicans is:

Quote:
“…it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship. … All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger.”
- Hermann Goering, founder of the Gestapo and one of the main architects of Nazi Germany.
See anything familiar?

And now this just yesterday.

"Press kept under a watchful eye

CLEARWATER -- Constantly under the watchful eyes of security, the media wasn't permitted to wander around inside Coachman Park to talk to Sarah Palin supporters. When reporters tried to leave the designated press area and head toward the bleachers where the crowd was seated, an escort would dart out of nowhere and confront him or her and say, "Can I help you?'' and turn the person around.
When one reporter asked an escort, who would not give her name, why the press wasn't allowed to mingle, she said that in the past, negative things had been written. The campaign wanted to avoid that possibility Monday."
-- Times staff writer Eileen Schulte

What next, "Do you have your papers". and now the shouts in the rallies of "Kill him, Kill him" as Palin eggs them on.
These are some evil people and we can only use our imagination what kind of white house they would run. They would run the most secretive corrupt white house in history, making Bush and Cheney look like they were an open book.

Posted by: popasmoke | October 7, 2008 12:21 PM | Report abuse

Get over the Obama/Ayers thing. Most people don't care. The Vietnam War was very unpopular and Ayers was a young man protesting what he found to be a despicable conflict, just as many Americans did. Besides, it was 40 years ago. The man is certainly not a terrorist now. Anyone with a brain can see that.

Ayers is a respected university professor now, and has done much good charitable work. THAT was the focus of Obama's association with him. Period.

This Ayers/Obama connection is a non-issue. Palin keeps harping on it, but she is preaching to her own deluded choir. The people who show up at her rallies are called "fans", which is short for FANATIC.

Need I say more?

And as far as the "Chicago Political Machine".... geez Louise. The current Republican Party is a Karl Rovian Political Machine if I ever saw one. How else did Bush manage to get elected for two terms?

I say bring on the Chicago Machine, baby! If that's what it takes to fight fire with fire, then bring it on!!

Posted by: mavisdarling | October 7, 2008 12:20 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin palling around with secessionists:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eniG9l_7its

She may not be IN the AIP, but she sure has been supportive of them.

Why is that NOT making ANY news?

That Vogler guy (the founder of AIP) takes the cake for any "anti-American" sentiments. And Palin's husband, Todd, used to be in his party.

And Sarah wasn't six years old when she spoke, what, like three times at the Alaska Secessionists' conventions?!

Oh, but it's ok, because it's a bunch of white guys.
Funny how sometimes it's good to be a "bitter white guy with a gun."

Posted by: franglais | October 7, 2008 12:19 PM | Report abuse


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Obama broke the law when he bought that house in Chicago together with criminal REZKO.No wonder considering his Chicago mob connections.Do we need the criminal in OUR WH?

Posted by: pro36 | October 7, 2008 12:12 PM | Report abuse
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Do we really have to go through this again?

From factcheck.org

You might as well know what actually happened so you can make up your own mind without the lies.
If you are interested read below.

Q: Does Obama have a real estate problem?

A political patron from whom he bought a strip of land is under federal indictment, but there's no evidence Obama did anything improper.
Here’s what happened: In 2005, Barack Obama and his wife, Michelle, bid $1.65 million for a house on the south side of Chicago. According to newspaper reports, the owner was also trying to sell an undeveloped parcel of land adjacent to the property Obama was buying, and he wanted the sales of the two to close on the same day. Obama has said that he mentioned he was buying the house to a longtime political patron, Antoin (Tony) Rezko, a developer. Rezko’s wife wound up buying the lot adjacent to Obama’s. At the request of the Obamas, who were seeking a bit more space for their yard, she later sold them a 10-foot wide strip, or about one-sixth, of her land. The Obamas paid $104,500 for it, or about one-sixth of what Mrs. Rezko had paid for the entire property.

Obama doesn’t appear to have reaped any financial advantages from the transactions. The reason the deal has received a good bit of attention is that Tony Rezko – whose political contributions to Illinois’ former governor, Obama and others totaled in the hundreds of thousands of dollars – was known to be under federal investigation at the time the Obamas were purchasing their home. In 2006, Rezko was indicted in three federal cases: Two involved fraud schemes in which he allegedly demanded payments from firms wanting work from the enormous Illinois teachers’ pension fund and from those wanting favorable rulings from a state board that regulates the building of new hospital facilities. In the third, he was charged with fraudulently obtaining more than $10 million in loans for a pizza restaurant business; in December 2007, prosecutors added more fraud counts to that indictment.

Obama has a relationship with Rezko that dates back many years, but there’s no indication Obama did anything improper. Shortly after finishing law school, Obama, who had turned down a job offer from the developer, went to work at a law firm where he represented some community groups that partnered with Rezko to apply for housing rehabilitation loans. As a state legislator, he wrote letters to city and state officials in support of Rezko’s efforts to build apartments for the elderly with government money; the senator asserts that this was a project the community wanted. Obama got together with Rezko a couple of times a year, he has said.

Obama has donated campaign contributions from Rezko and his associates to charity, and he said in 2006, when the real estate transaction was reported by the press, that he made a “boneheaded” mistake by participating in the deal when it was known that Rezko was being investigated. “I regret it,” Obama said. “I’m going to make sure from this point on I don’t even come close to the line.”


Posted by: popasmoke | October 7, 2008 12:18 PM | Report abuse

you gotta love the posting about Palin needing protection at a starbucks...

dude

they all need protection

seems she is the only candidate inciting against her opponent though.

very bad .... very very bad

send this woman back to Alaska and let her get her moral compass straight...maybe she was to close to the North pole and the magnetic pull effected her ability to see right and wrong clearly

because clearly from these last couple of rallies we see....it has been effected.

Scary Movie V - The Palin Presidency.
"when a candidate cc's her secessionist husband on up to a quarter of all her gubernatorial emails...you know something stinks in Denmark"

Posted by: klondike2 | October 7, 2008 12:18 PM | Report abuse

I'd like Barack MORE if he WAS Muslim.

Posted by: BudG024 | October 7, 2008 12:18 PM | Report abuse

Do we need the traitor muslim communist criminal Obama in OUR WH?

Posted by: pro36 | October 7, 2008 12:18 PM | Report abuse

that was not the Rezco I knew.

that was not the ayers I knew.

that was not the wright I knew.

that was not the Ahmedinejad I knew.

that was not the castro I knew.

that was not the Kim jung Il I knew.

that was not the Putin I knew.

Truth be told, THE ONE doesn't seem to be in full charge of all his senses.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | October 7, 2008 12:17 PM | Report abuse

Muslim communist! Muslim Communist!

AWWWK!

Uppity black boy! Muslim Communist!

Socialism! Liberal! Socialism!

Muslim! Muslim!

AWWWWK!

Posted by: BudG024 | October 7, 2008 12:17 PM | Report abuse

Smartest comment thus far on this blog? Farstriker at 8:29AM;
"Gotchas and scare lines about Ayers etc. won't work well tonight. The state of the economy will make them seem unserious and unleaderly. Advantage Obama."

Stupidest comment thus far?

"Honor in Iraq.."

Honor? Is that the new term for "Victory?"

HYPOCRITES!

Posted by: JEP7 | October 7, 2008 12:16 PM | Report abuse

"Mr. McCain made clear on Monday that he wanted to make the final month of the race a referendum on Mr. Obama's character, background and leadership -- a polite way of saying he intends to attack him on all fronts and create or reinforce doubts about him among as many voters as possible,"

"Palin's routine attacks on the media have begun to spill into ugliness. In Clearwater, arriving reporters were greeted with shouts and taunts by the crowd of about 3,000. Palin then went on to blame Katie Couric's questions for her 'less-than-successful interview with kinda mainstream media.' At that, Palin supporters turned on reporters in the press area, waving thunder sticks and shouting abuse. Others hurled obscenities at a camera crew. One Palin supporter shouted a racial epithet at an African American sound man for a network and told him, 'Sit down, boy.' ")

(Another crowd member, upon mention of Obama's ties to Bill Ayers: "Kill him!")

Is this the way that John McCain wants history to judge his failed Presidential campaign? Since he will soon be returning to the Senate is he now going nuclear to now push this election to be remembered as the landslide election. I predicted back in June that McCain would either win 50-49% or that in the end it would be an 8%-10% point blowout and 325 electoral vote landslide. With this strategy by McCain, the Senator I once admired, it certainly seems like he is ready to lose not only convincingly electorally, but for history to write that Senator McCain lost all of his dignity and destroy his lifetime of honorable and dignified public service. Apparently he has been listening to the neophyte Governor Palin too closely and has abandoned his pledge right after he received the nomination to run a dignified campaign and reject the bombastic Karl Rove type of campaign that he so deplored in the 2000 primary. Its time in the next 2 weeks for John McCain to start to rehabilitate his own self image in time for his return to the US Senate.

Posted by: leichtman | October 7, 2008 12:16 PM | Report abuse


Palin has spoken repeatedly conventions of the AIP, or Alaskan Independence Party,
And she wasn't six years old when she was involved, either.

The founder of the AIP was a man named Joe Vogler. Here's what he had to say in a 1991 interview, only a few years before Palin attended its convention: "The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government."

He also said this: "And I won't be buried under their damn flag. I'll be buried in Dawson. And when Alaska is an independent nation they can bring my bones home."

Vogler has also said: "I'm an Alaskan, not an American. I've got no use for America or her damned institutions."

McCain apologists will argue that Sarah Palin was not a member of this group. But Obama wasn't a member of any Ayers anti-American group, either. And again, Palin repeatedly courted the AIP, and her husband was a member for years.
And she wasn't six years old when all this happened.

Posted by: franglais | October 7, 2008 12:15 PM | Report abuse

Osama Hussein Obama is the muslim communist with a communist agenda for this great country.Do we need the muslim communist in OUR WH?

Posted by: pro36 | October 7, 2008 12:14 PM | Report abuse

Democrats for John McCain and Sarah Palin in 2008

Posted by: hclark1 | October 7, 2008 12:13 PM | Report abuse

I just pray to God that Obama asks Americans the same question Ronald Reagan had in 1980: are you better off now than you were 4 years ago? 8 years ago?

For example, in 2000 the price of gas was around $1.50 a gallon.

I think the debate will be a tie. To counter charges that they're "in the tank" for Obama, the MSM will give his performance more scrutiny. You know, like they did for Joe Biden. Honestly, that woman didn't answer a single question directly.

I have a couple of shamans, snake handlers and witch doctors working on John McCain's temper. Hopefully his head will turn beet red tonight as he blows his cool.

I don't think the debates matter anymore. How bad does this economy have to get before everyone votes the Democrats back in?

Posted by: tony_in_Durham_NC | October 7, 2008 12:12 PM | Report abuse

Obama broke the law when he bought that house in Chicago together with criminal REZKO.No wonder considering his Chicago mob connections.Do we need the criminal in OUR WH?

Posted by: pro36 | October 7, 2008 12:12 PM | Report abuse

Barack needs to relax and avoid the elite professor zone.

The more that people see his intelligence and common sense and specific plans of action, the more McCain will seem feeble and erratic.

Obama should try to stay positive and issues-focused, but call out the McSame campaign on their slander. Bill Ayers is more patriot than terrorist, don't be afraid to SAY IT.

Who will "win" depends on our prejudice, as always. No matter what, I will think Obama is the best choice for our next Pres.

Posted by: BudG024 | October 7, 2008 12:10 PM | Report abuse

for those who want to argue about the results of the Keating 5 investigation

because Mccain was not found doing anything illegal...

ugh

Happy to have that conversation

let's let America decide what they think about Mccain taking gobs of money

his wife giving contracts to

flying around on Keatings jet and vacationing with the guy

being at his side and being literal best friends with this guy...

this guy who was raping the American economy...and left us with the first trillion dollar hangover

yeah...

Mccain has lots o' splainin to do

to the American people who are really not familiar with he and Keating's relationship

lots of people do things that they don't go to jail for...

but are really bad.

Mccain Keating trillion dollar "drinks on a plane" and vacations together...

are some of them.

Posted by: klondike2 | October 7, 2008 12:09 PM | Report abuse

ALWAYS A FUN READ

THE Admiral SON.

In Oct. 26, 1967, the admiral's son while flying his 23rd mission over North Vietnam, once again fell from the sky, this time landing in the hands of a brutal enemy. He was beaten and bayoneted. His shoulder was smashed and his right calf was nearly perpendicular to his knee.
The severely wounded McCain was finally thrown on the back of a truck and hauled to the infamous Hanoi Hilton prison camp. Immediately, his captors began to interrogate him using sadistic methods they had perfected on hundreds of captured U.S. servicemen before him.

His interrogators demanded military information. When he refused, his guards kicked and pounded him mercilessly.
McCain admits that three to four days after he was captured, he promised the Vietnamese, "I'll give you military information if you will take me to the hospital."
McCain also admits that the Vietnamese rushed him to a hospital, but denies he was given "special medical treatment" because of his promise.
He claims he was given medical care normally unavailable to captured Americans only because the Vietnamese learned he was the son of Admiral John S. McCain, Jr., the soon-to-be commander of all U.S. forces in the Pacific including those fighting in Vietnam.

The Vietnamese figured that because POW McCain's father was of such high military rank that he was of royalty or the governing circle in the United States. Thereafter the communist bragged that they had captured "the crown prince"and treated him as a "special prisoner."

Less than two weeks after McCain was taken to a hospital, Hanoi's press began quoting him giving specific military information, including the name of the aircraft carrier on which he was based, numbers of U.S. pilots that had been lost, the number of aircraft in his flight, information about location of rescue ships and the order of which his attack was supposed to take place.
There is also evidence that McCain received "special" medical treatment from a Soviet physician.

After he was out of the hospital, McCain continued cooperating with the North Vietnamese for a period of three years. He made radio broadcasts for the communists and met with foreign delegations, including the Cubans. He was interviewed by at least two North Vietnamese generals one of whom was Vietnam's national hero, General Vo Nguyen Giap.

On June 4, 1969, a U.S. wire service story headlined "PW Songbird Is Pilot Son of Admiral," reported one of McCain's radio broadcasts: "Hanoi has aired a broadcast in which the pilot son of the United States commander in the Pacific, Adm. John McCain, purportedly admits to having bombed civilian targets in North Vietnam and praises medical treatment he has received since being taken prisoner.
McCain says he violated the Code of Conduct only when the North Vietnamese brutally tortured him. He further claims that he was so distraught afterwards that he tried to commit suicide. He has never explained why his "aid to the enemy" continued for more than three years.

Even though there are no reports in the public record from other POWs who witnessed McCain's claims of torture and heroics or his attempted suicide, the American media has accepted his version of events word for word, no questions asked.

Yet, the same press that transformed the admiral's son into an "incredible war hero--an inspiration to all Americans," vilified the two grunts.
Comparing the incidents surrounding the fates of three POWs,' who collaborated with the enemy, makes one question why two faced possible execution for treason, while the third won acclaim as a hero fit to be President of the United States.
Once more, Lady Luck had smiled on John McCain . . . or was it the admiral?

Posted by: popasmoke | October 7, 2008 12:09 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin palling around with secessionists:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eniG9l_7its

She may not be IN the AIP, but she sure has been supportive of them.

Why is that NOT making ANY news?
That lady has nerve talking about Ayers.....
Seriously, where is the headline news on this stuff? Talk about guilt by association!

That Vogler guy (the founder of AIP) takes the cake for any "anti-American" sentiments. And Palin's husband, Todd, used to be in his party.

And Sarah wasn't six years old when she spoke, what, like three times at the Alaska Secessionists' conventions?!

Oh, but it's ok, because it's a bunch of white guys.
Funny how sometimes it's good to be a "bitter white guy with a gun."

Posted by: franglais | October 7, 2008 12:09 PM | Report abuse

for those who want to argue about the results of the Keating 5 investigation

because Mccain was not found doing anything illegal...

ugh

Happy to have that conversation

let's let America decide what they think about Mccain taking gobs of money

his wife giving contracts to

flying around on Keatings jet and vacationing with the guy

being at his side and being literal best friends with this guy...

this guy who was raping the American economy...and left us with the first trillion dollar hangover

yeah...

Mccain has lots o' splainin to do

to the American people who are really not familiar with he and Keating's relationship

lots of people do things that they don't go to jail for...

but are really bad.

Mccain Keating trillion dollar "drinks on a plane" and vacations together...

are some of them.

Posted by: klondike2 | October 7, 2008 12:08 PM | Report abuse

Palin is a nut job. Yesterday her Secret Service detail had to hustle her out of a Starbucks because she was such a prima donna that customers started to verbally "assault" her. Alaska's toxic Barbie, has experienced a popularity drop like a turd from a tall moose over the past couple of weeks. I'm waiting for the press to start reporting about this air head. Europe, where newspapers actually still investigate, has a series of reports quoting some of her more nasty racist comments. For all of her small town beauty queen looks, Palin is a very ugly person. She wont be our next VP and she likely will be given the boot by Alaskan voters, now that they have come to know this bimbo better. As for Insane McCain, he has lost it completely. We will be treated tonight by some bumbling attempt at character assassination and a public display of anger when that fails, that will sink his political "career" forever.

Posted by: mibrooks27 | October 7, 2008 12:08 PM | Report abuse

I am not sure why it has not been reported but I know people who were there from our campaign. Yes, we keep an eye on the enemy.

Palin had to be rushed out of a Starbucks in Florida by the secret service worried about her safety. Patrons were yelling at her and calling her names.


-----------------
the reports coming out of the Palin rallies

scary scary scary...

America should be getting furious at this woman and be up in arms that she is clearly showing that she is not only an idiot on the scale of people that could be and have been VP candidates...

but her backward and morally lacking rallies and chants and beleifs are starting to "rear their very ugly heads"

these reports are scary as sh!#...

so now we have the team that not only conmtinues the last 8 years of lying and distraction...

but one that is even more dangerous and hateful

send this woman back to Alaska

from the sounds of it...they ar elooking to throw her out of their governemtn now that they actually got a look at her in clear light.

scary scary scary

like the omen II ...

Posted by: klondike2 | October 7, 2008 11:52 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: popasmoke | October 7, 2008 12:03 PM | Report abuse

Re: Palin's approval rating in Alaska

Actually, Palin's approval rating in Alaska is going DOWN fast. Last week it was something like 60%, which is still high but a lot lower than the 80% it was when she started this charade of running for VP.

A 20 point drop in one month says a lot!

Posted by: mavisdarling | October 7, 2008 12:02 PM | Report abuse

Obama/Ayers: Let's not overlook ANNENBERG! They served on the Annenberg
board together, overseeing the expenditure of millions of dollars. The
records are still "unavailable". Meantime, whenever Obama is criticized he
refers to his "fight the smears" website, which cites as its only source of
facts, the FACTCHECK.ORG website... which is run by Annenberg! Umm, what
does that say about credibility?

Obama/ACORN: ACORN is the very definition of a "community organizer" and
the ties between Obama and ACORN are abundant. ACORN has been tied to so
much voter fraud that they ought to be investigated under RICO! The tag
line to hammer home: ACORN: Where you're never too dead to vote twice!

And the Keating 5 as Obama's response to Ayers???

People forget the outcome of the Keating 5 investigations!


There were 5 Senators investigated. 4 Democrats, and 1 Republican, John McCain. Three Senators were determined to have acted improperly… Cranston (D), Riegle (D) and DeConcini (D). The other two Senators were found to have done nothing improper and received no censure. Senators John Glenn (American Hero & Astronaut) and John McCain (American Hero and POW) were both criticized for poor judgment for attending meetings, but neither was considered to have had significant involvement, and neither was deemed to have committed impropriety, violation of law or violation of Senate Rules.


The 3 Senators censured did not seek re-election and their years in elected office were ended.


Senator John Glenn sought and won re-election, serving until he retired in 1999. Senator John McCain has been re-elected thru his present term and run for the presidency.


Interestingly… Senator DeConcini was later appointed by President Bill Clinton in February 1995 to the Board of Directors of the Federal Home Loan Mortgage Corporation.

Posted by: edeldoug | October 7, 2008 12:00 PM | Report abuse

Obama/Ayers: Let's not overlook ANNENBERG! They served on the Annenberg
board together, overseeing the expenditure of millions of dollars. The
records are still "unavailable". Meantime, whenever Obama is criticized he
refers to his "fight the smears" website, which cites as its only source of
facts, the FACTCHECK.ORG website... which is run by Annenberg! Umm, what
does that say about credibility?

Obama/ACORN: ACORN is the very definition of a "community organizer" and
the ties between Obama and ACORN are abundant. ACORN has been tied to so
much voter fraud that they ought to be investigated under RICO! The tag
line to hammer home: ACORN: Where you're never too dead to vote twice!

And the Keating 5 as Obama's response to Ayers???

People forget the outcome of the Keating 5 investigations!


There were 5 Senators investigated. 4 Democrats, and 1 Republican, John McCain. Three Senators were determined to have acted improperly… Cranston (D), Riegle (D) and DeConcini (D). The other two Senators were found to have done nothing improper and received no censure. Senators John Glenn (American Hero & Astronaut) and John McCain (American Hero and POW) were both criticized for poor judgment for attending meetings, but neither was considered to have had significant involvement, and neither was deemed to have committed impropriety, violation of law or violation of Senate Rules.


The 3 Senators censured did not seek re-election and their years in elected office were ended.


Senator John Glenn sought and won re-election, serving until he retired in 1999. Senator John McCain has been re-elected thru his present term and run for the presidency.


Interestingly… Senator DeConcini was later appointed by President Bill Clinton in February 1995 to the Board of Directors of the Federal Home Loan Mortgage Corporation.

Posted by: edeldoug | October 7, 2008 11:57 AM | Report abuse

McCain/Palin, with new vitality, have engaged the opposition who have been rocked back on their high horses.

As the race tightens a bit, the NY Times and Alan Colmes nervously attempt to interrupt the discussion on Sen. Obama's deep, philisophical involvement with the radical Acorn and his responsibility for the current financial crisis.

Just elected, Sen. Obama received almost as much money from Freddie/Fannie as long serving Sen. Dodd.

Sen. Obama's chair of his VP selection committee was from Freddie/Fannie.

Sen. McCain tried to correct the abuses at Fannie/Freddie years ago but was stopped by Dems on a party line vote. Other Republicans and moderate Dems were nervous about looking into Acorn and Fannie/Freddie because of race baiting and fear mongering by Barney Frank and others, that would be rationalized and tolerated by the main stream media.

Sen. McCain has repeatedly challenged the current administration and is about as different from the current administration as one can be.

Sen. Obama has repeatedly gone along with rascals in his own party to gain power. The Chicago machine to get into the game. Rev. Wright to get street cred. The Ayres' to launch his campaign. Tony Rezko to get into his home. Acorn to get ground troops.

In the primary, Sen. Hillary Clinton said that she and Sen. McCain were qualified to be president; but that Sen. Obama had one speech he gave before becoming a US Senator.

A lot of Americans will be voting for McCain/Palin because they want lower taxes and more jobs, honor in Iraq, a hero like John McCain, and because they love Sarah Palin and can't stand the shrill feminists!

Some Hillary supporters know that a vote for McCain/Palin in 2008 is a vote for Hillary in 2012 because she can't run then if McCain/Palin loses.

Posted by: Xanadu3 | October 7, 2008 11:57 AM | Report abuse

I don't believe as many people will watch this debate as the first one. I am in favor of John McCain for president but both canidates have a equal chance of winning the debate. The location is favoring John McCain and he tends to make himself more personable with the American people. The failing economy will be to Obama's advantage, he can criticize and use that as leverage to encourage voters to vote for him in hopes of a better tommorow. Obama also tends to be a more fluent speaker. I think that both canidates will not answer the questions directly, instead tip-toe around them as they did in the last debate. I think both canidates have a equal chance of winning.

Posted by: edeer | October 7, 2008 11:56 AM | Report abuse

I don't believe as many people will watch this debate as the first one. I am in favor of John McCain for president but both canidates have a equal chance of winning the debate. The location is favoring John McCain and he tends to make himself more personable with the American people. The failing economy will be to Obama's advantage, he can criticize and use that as leverage to encourage voters to vote for him in hopes of a better tommorow. Obama also tends to be a more fluent speaker. I think that both canidates will not answer the questions directly, instead tip-toe around them as they did in the last debate. I think both canidates have a equal chance of winning.

Posted by: edeer | October 7, 2008 11:56 AM | Report abuse

I don't believe as many people will watch this debate as the first one. I am in favor of John McCain for president but both canidates have a equal chance of winning the debate. The location is favoring John McCain and he tends to make himself more personable with the American people. The failing economy will be to Obama's advantage, he can criticize and use that as leverage to encourage voters to vote for him in hopes of a better tommorow. Obama also tends to be a more fluent speaker. I think that both canidates will not answer the questions directly, instead tip-toe around them as they did in the last debate. I think both canidates have a equal chance of winning.

Posted by: edeer | October 7, 2008 11:56 AM | Report abuse

I don't believe as many people will watch this debate as the first one. I am in favor of John McCain for president but both canidates have a equal chance of winning the debate. The location is favoring John McCain and he tends to make himself more personable with the American people. The failing economy will be to Obama's advantage, he can criticize and use that as leverage to encourage voters to vote for him in hopes of a better tommorow. Obama also tends to be a more fluent speaker. I think that both canidates will not answer the questions directly, instead tip-toe around them as they did in the last debate. I think both canidates have a equal chance of winning.

Posted by: edeer | October 7, 2008 11:56 AM | Report abuse

mark_rohaley;

So can you prove that God is on the side of John McCain, or should we just take your word for it? lol

Posted by: alan15 | October 7, 2008 11:56 AM | Report abuse

Obama/Ayers: Let's not overlook ANNENBERG! They served on the Annenberg
board together, overseeing the expenditure of millions of dollars. The
records are still "unavailable". Meantime, whenever Obama is criticized he
refers to his "fight the smears" website, which cites as its only source of
facts, the FACTCHECK.ORG website... which is run by Annenberg! Umm, what
does that say about credibility?

Obama/ACORN: ACORN is the very definition of a "community organizer" and
the ties between Obama and ACORN are abundant. ACORN has been tied to so
much voter fraud that they ought to be investigated under RICO! The tag
line to hammer home: ACORN: Where you're never too dead to vote twice!

And the Keating 5 as Obama's response to Ayers???

People forget the outcome of the Keating 5 investigations!


There were 5 Senators investigated. 4 Democrats, and 1 Republican, John McCain. Three Senators were determined to have acted improperly… Cranston (D), Riegle (D) and DeConcini (D). The other two Senators were found to have done nothing improper and received no censure. Senators John Glenn (American Hero & Astronaut) and John McCain (American Hero and POW) were both criticized for poor judgment for attending meetings, but neither was considered to have had significant involvement, and neither was deemed to have committed impropriety, violation of law or violation of Senate Rules.


The 3 Senators censured did not seek re-election and their years in elected office were ended.


Senator John Glenn sought and won re-election, serving until he retired in 1999. Senator John McCain has been re-elected thru his present term and run for the presidency.


Interestingly… Senator DeConcini was later appointed by President Bill Clinton in February 1995 to the Board of Directors of the Federal Home Loan Mortgage Corporation.

Posted by: edeldoug | October 7, 2008 11:56 AM | Report abuse

Obama/Ayers: Let's not overlook ANNENBERG! They served on the Annenberg
board together, overseeing the expenditure of millions of dollars. The
records are still "unavailable". Meantime, whenever Obama is criticized he
refers to his "fight the smears" website, which cites as its only source of
facts, the FACTCHECK.ORG website... which is run by Annenberg! Umm, what
does that say about credibility?

Obama/ACORN: ACORN is the very definition of a "community organizer" and
the ties between Obama and ACORN are abundant. ACORN has been tied to so
much voter fraud that they ought to be investigated under RICO! The tag
line to hammer home: ACORN: Where you're never too dead to vote twice!

And the Keating 5 as Obama's response to Ayers???

People forget the outcome of the Keating 5 investigations!


There were 5 Senators investigated. 4 Democrats, and 1 Republican, John McCain. Three Senators were determined to have acted improperly… Cranston (D), Riegle (D) and DeConcini (D). The other two Senators were found to have done nothing improper and received no censure. Senators John Glenn (American Hero & Astronaut) and John McCain (American Hero and POW) were both criticized for poor judgment for attending meetings, but neither was considered to have had significant involvement, and neither was deemed to have committed impropriety, violation of law or violation of Senate Rules.


The 3 Senators censured did not seek re-election and their years in elected office were ended.


Senator John Glenn sought and won re-election, serving until he retired in 1999. Senator John McCain has been re-elected thru his present term and run for the presidency.


Interestingly… Senator DeConcini was later appointed by President Bill Clinton in February 1995 to the Board of Directors of the Federal Home Loan Mortgage Corporation.

Posted by: edeldoug | October 7, 2008 11:56 AM | Report abuse

Ohio, Florida, New Hampshire, Colorado all go blue on Pollster.com.

Posted by: wpost4112 | October 7, 2008 11:56 AM | Report abuse

Most "real" Americans would select Obama to represent our return to respect and honest leadership here at home and abroad. Something John McCain can never accomplish.

John McCain uses the proper description when he references the rampant and irresponsible "borrow and spend" policy of his Republican Party over the past 8 years. McCain calls it a "disgrace".... and I believe he is responsible for a full share of what will eventually be more than 10 trillion dollars.

John McCain states, "He will follow Osama bin Laden to the gates of hell," in order to capture him. He also states, “I know where he is,” and "I know how to do it!"
But, only if he is elected President of the United States……FIRST!
Something on the order of "knowing how to win wars," even though his participation in the Vietnam war was far from what could be considered a success. Either for him or for the United States!

John McCain has proven he will "say" anything and/or "do" anything to promote his chances of winning an election. From out and out "lies," to "grandstanding" with fabricated and falsified "props" provided by:
George W. Bush..(the Veterans bill that McCain did not support, Bush said that he did.)...
Romney.. (telling America about McCain rallying the House Republicans to pass the rescue plan, just prior to the failure to pass.

Has America not witnessed enough of this "bogus" activity of deceit and dishonesty with 8 years of the Bush administration?

Posted by: motiv8ed | October 7, 2008 11:52 AM | Report abuse

the reports coming out of the Palin rallies

scary scary scary...

America should be getting furious at this woman and be up in arms that she is clearly showing that she is not only an idiot on the scale of people that could be and have been VP candidates...

but her backward and morally lacking rallies and chants and beleifs are starting to "rear their very ugly heads"

these reports are scary as sh!#...

so now we have the team that not only conmtinues the last 8 years of lying and distraction...

but one that is even more dangerous and hateful

send this woman back to Alaska

from the sounds of it...they ar elooking to throw her out of their governemtn now that they actually got a look at her in clear light.

scary scary scary

like the omen II ...

Posted by: klondike2 | October 7, 2008 11:52 AM | Report abuse

Oh yeah, Obama is going to shine tonight. For after all, his Zodiac sign is LEO!

HA HA HA. Okay, don't laugh. I'm serious. Leo's are natural "people" people. This format will definitely benefit Obama.

McCain will bomb. Pun intended.

Posted by: mavisdarling | October 7, 2008 11:52 AM | Report abuse

Obama/Ayers: Let's not overlook ANNENBERG! They served on the Annenberg
board together, overseeing the expenditure of millions of dollars. The
records are still "unavailable". Meantime, whenever Obama is criticized he
refers to his "fight the smears" website, which cites as its only source of
facts, the FACTCHECK.ORG website... which is run by Annenberg! Umm, what
does that say about credibility?

Obama/ACORN: ACORN is the very definition of a "community organizer" and
the ties between Obama and ACORN are abundant. ACORN has been tied to so
much voter fraud that they ought to be investigated under RICO! The tag
line to hammer home: ACORN: Where you're never too dead to vote twice!

And the Keating 5 as Obama's response to Ayers???

People forget the outcome of the Keating 5 investigations!


There were 5 Senators investigated. 4 Democrats, and 1 Republican, John McCain. Three Senators were determined to have acted improperly… Cranston (D), Riegle (D) and DeConcini (D). The other two Senators were found to have done nothing improper and received no censure. Senators John Glenn (American Hero & Astronaut) and John McCain (American Hero and POW) were both criticized for poor judgment for attending meetings, but neither was considered to have had significant involvement, and neither was deemed to have committed impropriety, violation of law or violation of Senate Rules.


The 3 Senators censured did not seek re-election and their years in elected office were ended.


Senator John Glenn sought and won re-election, serving until he retired in 1999. Senator John McCain has been re-elected thru his present term and run for the presidency.


Interestingly… Senator DeConcini was later appointed by President Bill Clinton in February 1995 to the Board of Directors of the Federal Home Loan Mortgage Corporation.

Posted by: edeldoug | October 7, 2008 11:52 AM | Report abuse

LOL. The Kenyan government has arrested Corsi, the author of the anti-Obama book "Obama Nation", for not having a temporary work visa, which they say he needs to promote his book and write dispatches from Kenya.

They might as well take out advertising to promote this book for him.

Posted by: AsperGirl | October 7, 2008 11:52 AM | Report abuse

mark_rohaley, I feel so very bad for you.

You have deep seeded emotional issues for which you should seek professional treatment.

I will pray for you.

Posted by: sobugged1 | October 7, 2008 11:52 AM | Report abuse

Obama was too much of a gentleman last debate.

McCain is from a generation of Americans who don't say "please" or "thank you" to waiters.

Obama needs to ignore politeness in dealing with this shriveled old cold war relic.

Posted by: coloradodog | October 7, 2008 11:52 AM | Report abuse

McCain is showing ominous signs of how power has corrupted his mind.
Over the past few days Sarah Palin has incited crowds to dangerous levels of hatred usually seen at K.K.K. meetings.
She openly attacked the press as if it was somehow Un-American in questioning her.
After one rally in Clearwater reporters were harassed by the crowd.
McCain elicited one response of "Terrorist"
during a town hall meeting.
The Palin crowd said "kill him" referring to Obama.
This same ugly strategy has been employed by every dictator in modern times. Fear, Intimidation of the press and False Patriotism were Mussolini’s tools. Hitler used these and race hatred as well.
We can't be timid in condemning McCain for these actions or civil liberty will go the same way as the economy.

Posted by: seemstome | October 7, 2008 11:52 AM | Report abuse

Palin's attacks on Obama's so-called "relationship" with former Weatherman member, Bill Ayers, a "domestic terrorist", who never killed anyone and who was never convicted of anything and whose actions took place when Obama was 8 years old, have verged on racist as she claims that Obama "doesn't see America as you and I do".

At a rally yesterday, a crowd member screamed, "Kill Him" as Sarah laughed and cheered with the crowd.

A fake sherriff waddles to the podium after peeeuuu and calls out Barack Hussein Obama to the crowd to further boos and chants of kill him...

At a McCain rally, he asked, "Who is Barack Obama?" and a crowd member yelled out "Terrorist" as McCain held that silly smirk on his addled face.

This reprehensible type of political campaigning is typical of the desperation the Republican Party finds itself in, as their numbers in the polls fall like the stock market...

peeeuuu palin and her husband are closeted facists and traitors...and again so is Vietcong propaganda model McCaint...

What is the Alaskan Independence Party?

The A.I.P. sympathized with Timothy McVeigh.

Founder Joe Vogel: “The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government", “and I won't be buried under their damn flag." (Joe Vogel is buried in Canada.)

“I’m an Alaskan, not an American. I've got no use for America or her damned institutions." Joe Vogel – Founder.

Dexter Clark, vice chairman of the A.I.P.: refers to the American soldiers in Alaska as "occupying troops."

Michael Hill, a representative of A.I.P., stated on Glen Beck’s program that the goal of the A.I.P. is to dissolve the United States and the Constitution.

This is Sarah Palin’s and the Republican Party’s version of patriotism and love of country.
........peeeuuuu

"First Dud", Todd Palin, registered with the Alaskan Independence Party in 1995 and remained a member for seven years. "Besides a short period of a few months in 2000 when he changed his registration to undeclared, pheww Palin remained a registered member of AIP until July 2002 when he registered again as an undeclared voter."

The AIP was founded in 1984, but its website doesn't begin listing officers until 1992, when its founder, Joe Vogler, "Disappeared"... in 1992, body found in May 1994."

As I have written in a previous blog...the same Joe Vogler who turned-up dead in a Fairbanks gravel pit, the victim of a "plastic-explosives sale gone bad", according to his murderer.

Sarah Palin addressed the Alaskan Independence Party Convention a little over 6 months ago, happily telling its attendees that she shared its "vision of upholding the Constitution of our great state", curiously not mentioning the Constitution of the United States.

She encouraged AIP to "keep up the good work".

The AIP website enshrines on its website a tirade from Joe Vogel that concludes with this statement.....

"We (the Alaskan Independence Party) ask that a courageous member of the United Nations sponsor us to appear before the General Assembly to present our case, that we may be restored to the list of Non-Self-Governing Territories so that we may eventually secure our right to self determination. We would also like to take the matter before the International Court of Justice if such is feasible."

...Now them's a fightun words.....

As for Wasilla, Alaska, it is STILL called the Methamphetamine capital of Alaska...oh also did you know that it is legal to possess under 3 ounces of Marijuhana in that state as well....

Sarah Sez..."gotta keep 'em stoned and stupid"

peeeuuu Palins 80% approval rating..yea, now I can see why...

Thanks but no thanks to McCaint and peeeuuu Palin for their treachery and future traitorus encounters

Posted by: AlexP1 | October 7, 2008 11:51 AM | Report abuse

same team

same tactics

same destruction of our country for their own personal gain

throw the McCain palin Bush Cheney Gonzales Rove...etc etc

lying bums out! get angry don't be played for a 9th year.

Posted by: klondike2 | October 7, 2008 11:44 AM | Report abuse

Obamah is a joke. A hater. A liar and
Obamah is a way left wing liberal. He did NOT grow up in the USA ? He has sat under a hater in church for 20 years. He is a marxist and his God is Muhahmud I mean God? He is going to tax every small business(over 250.000.00 which is ALL)which trickles directly to you! He has no clue how to run a country or a war? You people have a dark soul if you even consider this man. One thing is for sure, you are dark in your soul or out right stupid if you vote for this scandalous socialist extreemist. I don't care what color your skin is? God is not with Obamah. He is with McCain & Palin. You think long and hard on that? While Obamah throws his mouth of mud and that says McCain and Palin do? This is a twisted man.

Posted by: mark_rohaley | October 7, 2008 11:44 AM | Report abuse

Israel is a beautiful country, What is qualitatively lacking as compared with say,
Detroit?

Posted by: seemstome | October 7, 2008 11:42 AM | Report abuse

SORRY TO REPOST THIS BUT IN LIGHT OF YESTERDAYS HAPPENINGS IN FLORIDA WITH PALIN IT IS JUST TO IMPORTANT.


Mccain's campaign now begin to function like the Nazi party. I noticed this in their convention.

" You saw that republican convention, it looked like a gathering of the Nazi party. Signs with "Country first" and all the speeches in the effect of "You are either with us or you are not real americans or patriots"
Another good quote from the Nazi's that applies to the republicans is:

Quote:
“…it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship. … All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger.”
- Hermann Goering, founder of the Gestapo and one of the main architects of Nazi Germany.
See anything familiar?

And now this just yesterday.

"Press kept under a watchful eye

CLEARWATER -- Constantly under the watchful eyes of security, the media wasn't permitted to wander around inside Coachman Park to talk to Sarah Palin supporters. When reporters tried to leave the designated press area and head toward the bleachers where the crowd was seated, an escort would dart out of nowhere and confront him or her and say, "Can I help you?'' and turn the person around.
When one reporter asked an escort, who would not give her name, why the press wasn't allowed to mingle, she said that in the past, negative things had been written. The campaign wanted to avoid that possibility Monday."
-- Times staff writer Eileen Schulte

What next, "Do you have your papers". and now the shouts in the rallies of "Kill him, Kill him" as Palin eggs them on.
These are some evil people and we can only use our imagination what kind of white house they would run. They would run the most secretive corrupt white house in history, making Bush and Cheney look like they were an open book.

Posted by: popasmoke | October 7, 2008 11:42 AM | Report abuse

Why the tiresome repetition of the notion that McCain shines in the townhall format?

This is patently untrue. It was in a townhall meeting that he uttered his infamous "Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran" gaffe. McCain also used the format to complain about a boy's question by calling him a "little jerk." Those may have been jokes, but they revealed the nasty, angry side of McCain's persona in a raw way that was unflattering in the extreme.

Posted by: dee5 | October 7, 2008 10:52 AM

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Just learned this new term yesterday at work - It's called "Nice Nasty"..Passive aggressive snide remarks with a chuckle. He knows what the eff he's doing.

Posted by: solrac2002 | October 7, 2008 11:38 AM | Report abuse

Why the tiresome repetition of the notion that McCain shines in the townhall format?

This is patently untrue. It was in a townhall meeting that he uttered his infamous "Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran" gaffe. McCain also used the format to complain about a boy's question by calling him a "little jerk." Those may have been jokes, but they revealed the nasty, angry side of McCain's persona in a raw way that was unflattering in the extreme.

Posted by: dee5 | October 7, 2008 10:52 AM

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Just learned this new term yesterday at work - It's called "Nice Nasty"..Passive aggressive snide remarks with a chuckle. He knows what the eff he's doing.

Posted by: solrac2002 | October 7, 2008 11:38 AM | Report abuse

Obamah is a way left wing liberal. He did NOT grow up in the USA ? He has sat under a hater in church for 20 years. He is a marxist and his God is Muhahmud I mean God? He is going to tax every small business(over 250.000.00 which is ALL)which trickles directly to you! He has no clue how to run a country or a war? You people have a dark soul if you even consider this man. One thing is for sure, you are dark in your soul or out right stupid if you vote for this scandalous socialist extreemist. I don't care what color your skin is? God is not with Obamah. He is with McCain & Palin. You think long and hard on that?

Posted by: mark_rohaley | October 7, 2008 11:38 AM | Report abuse

i doubt there will be any knockout unless mccain leaves his chin exposed, which he probably wont do. obama wont take any wild uppercuts as he already is leading on points. its also doubtful that mccain will be able to score significant blows either. all these debates have been pretty tame...no real signature moments yet.

Posted by: dcsportsfan1 | October 7, 2008 11:38 AM | Report abuse

Barack Obama's ties to radicals and terrorists need to be exposed.

Posted by: djred19678 | October 7, 2008 11:38 AM | Report abuse

mvpeach; Just a few simple question,

1)are you serious?

2)Is that the best you can offer in this economic environment?

3)Are you blind to the results of an administration elected on fear?

It would be wise not to take the Lord's words out of context.

Posted by: alan15 | October 7, 2008 11:34 AM | Report abuse

Don't say Tina Fey hasn't had an effect. Palin doesn't say "maverick" any more in her speeches. I suspect we won't be hearing it tonight.

Posted by: jef1000 | October 7, 2008 11:34 AM | Report abuse

McCain hates Obama so much that he has a hard time controlling his emotions when they're in the same room together. He came across as snarling and hateful in the last debate... wouldn't even look Obama in the eye.

McCain is pretty set in his ways. Let's see if he can fake it tonight and not look like the vindictive, jealous old man that he really is. His body language and tone of voice are subliminal messages that speak volumes, almost more than his actual words.

Posted by: mavisdarling | October 7, 2008 11:34 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: seemstome

"Anyone who thinks that terrorism can destroy an economy or a nation has only to look at Israel..."


Excuse me, but America is no Israel.
Qualitatively, Israel is in an entirely different league.

Posted by: VMR1 | October 7, 2008 11:34 AM | Report abuse

I have been to several Mccain Town hall meetings and he is nothing. I have been to town hall meeting by lots of politicians and most do very well and answer questions. Mccain actually doesn't. He blows off questions he doesn't want to talk about and uses others to pivot into what he wants to talk about usually nevr answering a question. It is like a stage act and he has tricks he falls back on. Mccain also is very loose with the truth when he is the only one on the stage. When challenged in a lie he covers it with another lie of tells the person asking they are wrong regardless of them having proof. You all saw the clip of the Viet Nam veteran who challenged Mccain on his veteran voting record. Mccain pretty much called him a liar and when they guy held up a clump of papers saying, "You want to read your voting record"? Mccain just said, "You have your understanding of the facts and I have mine". Mccain is a master at the lie and half truth he has made a career of it. After his last debate with Obama I don't see him doing well tonight. It looks like Obama knows how to get to him when Mccain starts all that "Mr. Obama doesn't understand" stuff. Mccain just sounds like an old fool talking down to some kid. The public picked up on that last time and it was in every news story. So how does Mccain correct it, that "IS" who he is? If he is a phony that comes off even worse. I see this debate as Mccain maybe surviving but I doubt he will pull off any win. By the way, Obama has done over 250 town halls himself maybe more them Mccain. They never mention it because they like the idea of Mccain being the favorite and now having to live up to it. Obama is great in town halls he has the audience in the palm of his hand most of the time.

Posted by: popasmoke | October 7, 2008 11:34 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: seemstome

"Anyone who thinks that terrorism can destroy an economy or a nation has only to look at Israel..."


Excuse me, but America is no Israel.
Qualitatively, Israel is in an entirely different league.

Posted by: VMR1 | October 7, 2008 11:30 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: seemstome

"Anyone who thinks that terrorism can destroy an economy or a nation has only to look at Israel..."


Excuse me, but America is no Israel.
Qualitatively, Israel is in an entirely different league.

Posted by: VMR1 | October 7, 2008 11:29 AM | Report abuse

DDAWD, did you see the constitutional provisions regarding the war power and command of the military that I posted for you last night?

There will be no "knockout" tonight and if there are unexpected questions from the audience either will handle them. I have heard both these men in town hall meetings for months now and they can do them well and allow follow-up questioning, too. Hats off to "POTUS'08" and "XM" satellite radio.

Posted by: mark_in_austin | October 7, 2008 11:28 AM | Report abuse

If the October surprise doesn't involve terrorism, war, or personal (and I mean very personal) association with Obama, then this is McCain's last shot at the presidency.
He has to go for the kill tonight in the debate. There can be no ambiguity in the result. He has to make Obama look like Palin in the Couric interview.
Otherwise it's movin on up to the white house for the first black president.

Posted by: seemstome | October 7, 2008 11:26 AM | Report abuse

"Don't blame Republicans for the current financial mess. We elected them."

Are you saying that we should continue to make that mistake, then?

Posted by: DDAWD | October 7, 2008 11:26 AM | Report abuse

KaneMan wrote:
Are you better off than you were eight years ago?

GAS Prices January 19, 2001: $1.45/Gallon
GAS Prices October 6, 2008: $ 3.89/Gallon

DOW January 19, 2001: 10,587.59
DOW October 6, 2008: 9,955.50

NASDAQ Jan 19, 2001: 2770.38
NASDAQ October 6, 2008: 1862.96

CPI, January 19, 2001: 175
CPI, September, 2008: 315

Dollar exchange with Euro, Jan. 19, 2001: 1.068
Dollar exchange with Euro, October 6, 2008: .733

Are you better off than you were eight years ago?
Better yet, are you ready for another four years same as last eight?

************************************************
************************************************

I was not and still am not a fan of Bill Clinton, but I was better off when he was in the White House. Dumbya and friend’s “war without end” policies led to a complete failure to do anything of substance in the domestic arena and has not only led to economic disaster, but the inferior of our infrastructure…both industrial and technological, have slowed to a trickle. If you have a Republican incumbent in your district, vote them out and keep voting “no” until the RNC shows some capability to function in this century!

As an independent/former GOP voter, I believe the RNC has to disband and build from the bottom-up. It’s no longer the party of Lincoln; it’s hijacked by neo-cons cabals.

Posted by: Wassanss | October 7, 2008 11:22 AM | Report abuse

one more time...

same team

same tactics 9th year...

get angry that they continue to slap us in the face with...

they lied to us about wmd
they lied to us about Palin's readiness and brains
they lied to us about Katrina
they lied to us about Presidential signing statements
they lied to us about the economy
they lied to us about Libby
they lied to us about being greeted as Liberators
they lied to us about mushroom clouds
they lied to us about Gonzales
they lied to us about global warming
they lied to us about the fundamentals of our economy being strong
they lied to us about judicial appointments
they lied to us about abu ghraib
they lied to us about secret prison camps
they lied to us about "mission accomplished"
they lied to us about closed door energy policy meetings
they lied to us about Afghanistan
they lied to us about lobbyists writing their economic proposals
they lied to us

they lied to us

they lied to us

same lying team
same lying tactics

9th year

throw McCain and Palin out on their a$$es.

America get angry

...for being lied to... still...

throw these bums out! NOW!

Posted by: klondike2 | October 7, 2008 11:19 AM | Report abuse

my guess is that Obama will connect better with the audience than is expected of him; he'll be relaxed enough to pull that off.

a frustrated John McCain, without Sarah Palin at his side to boost him psychologically, will run the risk of snarling and therefore turning off independents and further alienating the blue collar types who are now focused on the economy as never before. Worries about 401Ks turning into 201Ks (or have already) will trump his attempts to define Obama as "the other."

Posted by: can8tiv | October 7, 2008 11:18 AM | Report abuse

The time is now!!
To remind Americans that John "Sarah Palin" McCain is just another politician that will do or say whatever it takes to fulfill his olitical ambitions. John is uncalculating and erratic about trying to figure out his true convictions and intentions, and when to suspend his campaign.

The time is now!!
Americans remember John Keating, Iran-Contra, and John Singlaub.

The Time is now!!
Americans remember that Karl Rove is an advisor to John McCain......and we know how well that worked out with "W."

The Time is now!!
Americans of all political parties need to come together to preserve the future of the country we love and vote for a true American Patriot who got it right on "W's" war in Iraq.

The Barack Obama for President of the United States of America.

Country first!!!

Most Americans (At least that is what the polls say.)

Posted by: kircoff | October 7, 2008 11:17 AM | Report abuse

Once again, McPalin's people have pre-set the standard low for McCain, by "warning" everyone that he's going on the attack.
We all know that's a Trojan horse, right?

If McCain has the chance to "connect" with the people by talking about Hanoi Hilton, then advantage McCain, at least according to The Media.

If McCain slanders Obama, then advantage McCain, at least according to McPalin's People.

If McCain sticks to the Financial script, the advantage McCain, according to the polls AND The Media ("awww, wasn't he sweet to NOT trash Obama?")

The only way Obama can "win" this debate, is to outshine McCain in his "connecting with the people" moment.

Will THAT happen?

Posted by: franglais | October 7, 2008 11:16 AM | Report abuse

MVPEACH, No one is scared. No one is running away from anything. And BHO's "hidden agenda" is only hidden to ridiculous people like you. Apparently you have a problem with giving the middle class a fair shake and are so burried in a bible that you cant see past the binder. As a fellow Christian, I ask you please don't bring Jesus into this. Have you not heard of the separation of church and state? Comments like that make Christians look stupid, which most are not. But people like you dominate the press and make the rest of us look bad. Cut it out as you are not fooling or swaying anyone. Fortunately for this country, Obama has momentum...which he will need to win this election despite the outlandish presence of racism which still remains in this country. Tonight, momentum=advantage=Obama.

Posted by: Historymaker | October 7, 2008 11:16 AM | Report abuse

The media continues to fixate on the instantaneous horse-race aspect of who 'won' a debate, and misses the fact that voters are looking for substance, not point-scoring or gotchas. Then we make up our minds, based on what we hear and see.

Which goes a long way towards explaining why many pundits, using superficial critera, gave the 'win' to John McCain and Sarah Palin, but voters have moved to the Democratic ticket in droves.

You can fool some of the people all of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time.....

Posted by: paltmaie | October 7, 2008 11:16 AM | Report abuse

The time is now!!
To remind Americans that John "Sarah Palin" McCain is just another politician that will do or say whatever it takes to fulfill his olitical ambitions. John is uncalculating and erratic about trying to figure out his true convictions and intentions, and when to suspend his campaign.

The time is now!!
Americans remember John Keating, Iran-Contra, and John Singlaub.

The Time is now!!
Americans remember that Karl Rove is an advisor to John McCain......and we know how well that worked out with "W."

The Time is now!!
Americans of all political parties need to come together to preserve the future of the country we love and vote for a true American Patriot who got it right on "W's" war in Iraq.

The Barack Obama for President of the United States of America.

Country first!!!

Most Americans (At least that is what the polls say.)

Posted by: kircoff | October 7, 2008 11:16 AM | Report abuse

Anyone who thinks that terrorism can destroy an economy or a nation has only to look at Israel.
They have had heavy burdens to bear and still prosper.
They handle attacks quickly and don't dwell on the negative aspects or live in fear.
They don't waste money or military strength fighting wars where they don't need to be fought.
If a nation stuck in the middle of Islamic
Terrorism can survive and prosper, what does the United States have to fear?
It's the economy, bubba.

Posted by: seemstome | October 7, 2008 11:12 AM | Report abuse

I don't know that McCain does better in a townhall in comparison to Obama. It's just that McCain does better in a townhall than McCain in other situations.

And yeah, no followups is an advantage for McCain just as it helped out Palin. McCain is very much out of his element and out of sync with the public.

And we've been hearing about knockouts for the better part of a year now. This is just lazy hack writing. Do people think that Obama is going to gain ten points from a good debate?

Besides, spin is important. It ASTOUNDS me to see that people think that Palin had a good debate last week. What kind of screwed up fantasy world did Palin do well?

The polls will steadily move for Obama if he did well and perhaps slow down if he didn't. It's ludicrous to think that someone is going to get a dramatic bounce from one debate.

Posted by: DDAWD | October 7, 2008 11:12 AM | Report abuse

Has anyone researched the etymology of the word "mavericK'? In a simplified term suggested by a teenager, Jack Bauer of 24 is a maverick ! Maverick is also the name of a tactical missile.
See below what I got from dictionary.com:
Origin: 1865–70, Americanism; after Samuel A. Maverick (1803–70), Texas pioneer who left his calves unbranded
7 dictionary results for: maverick
Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1)
mav·er·ick [mav-er-ik, mav-rik] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun
1. Southwestern U.S. an unbranded calf, cow, or steer, esp. an unbranded calf that is separated from its mother.
2. a lone dissenter, as an intellectual, an artist, or a politician, who takes an independent stand apart from his or her associates.
3. (initial capital letter) an electro-optically guided U.S. air-to-ground tactical missile for destroying tanks and other hardened targets at ranges up to 15 mi. (24 km).


The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language: Fourth Edition. 2000.

maverick

SYLLABICATION: mav·er·ick
PRONUNCIATION: mvr-k, mvrk
NOUN: 1. An unbranded range animal, especially a calf that has become separated from its mother, traditionally considered the property of the first person who brands it. 2. One that refuses to abide by the dictates of or resists adherence to a group; a dissenter.
ADJECTIVE: Being independent in thought and action or exhibiting such independence: maverick politicians; a maverick decision.
ETYMOLOGY: Possibly after Samuel Augustus Maverick (1803–1870), American cattleman who left the calves in his herd unbranded .

Posted by: muranosky | October 7, 2008 11:11 AM | Report abuse

"The left LET the country be overrun with the illiterate, racist, and otherwise undesirable trash. You had your chance in the 1960s to greatly diminish and emasculate this element in America and build a civilized society. But you blew it by opting to wallow in drugs, alcohol, and endless fun instead."

Posted by: VMR1 | October 7, 2008 10:54 AM

On a broad societal scale, blacks can't continue to point their fingers at Republicans, racists or self-obsessed baby boomers for their ongoing problems.

Collectively, the black community has imploded into its own swamp of failure and self-defeat out of their anti-intellectual, establishment-hating mentality and its collapse into crack addiction and a crack culture.

Black communities were making progress until crack burst into American society. The rest of its self-defeat is written in how those who succeed leave the black urban concentrations and move out. The migration of successful blacks out of concentrated black communities means that there will always be a hardened core of poor, ignorant and blighted black cultures. The only way to break that cycle and bust up those communities of failure is (1) to uplift entire communities at a time instead of individuals in those communities (who move out as soon as they can) or (2) arrest the migration out of successful blacks, so that the college professors, lawyers and teachers who come from ghettos live in the same communities they were born in and bring their communities along with their own individual socio-economic uplift.

Most of what's broken in black communities today is self-inflicted, from the kids' cultural contempt for achievement in schools to its sinking into crack cultures and black achievers' flight into other communities.

Posted by: AsperGirl | October 7, 2008 11:09 AM | Report abuse

Tonight's debate format - the town hall that is supposedly McCain's greatest venue - will prove his undoing.

Now that McCain has decided that his only hope for winning the election is to deride Senator Obama, he can only do so by attacking relentlessly, in the hope that some folks out there will somehow see him as a better, safer bet in the White House.

But the town hall format works well only when candidates behave themselves and demonstrate - through their actions on stage - that they are thoughtful, considerate, and empathetic - and aware of the problems we all face in these uncertain times. Those are the characteristics we are looking for in a president.

Not the bombastic ravings of a lunatic who is out of control, angry and violent - so filled with hatred and contempt of his opponent that he can't even look at him without going all red in the face.

Posted by: deberry10 | October 7, 2008 11:07 AM | Report abuse

There's a lot on the line with tonight's debate. The stakes are high. Before we all dive into it, here's a more lighthearted look at how it might turn out. See Writing Frontier's "That's not debatable" at

http://writingfrontier.com/2008/10/04/thats-not-debatable/

Posted by: writingfrontier | October 7, 2008 11:07 AM | Report abuse

I see from the posts that the Obama people are running scared at the truth coming out about their candidate. They don't care that he is a man who has a radical revolutionary background and very likely a hidden agenda. They are willing to allow this country to be decimated as long as a black man is elected. "Forgive them, for they know not what they do." The words of Jesus when he was about to be crucified.

Posted by: mvpeach | October 7, 2008 11:07 AM | Report abuse

Manolete,

Say after me, "keating Five"

"I'm an Alaskan, not an American. I've got no use for America or her damned institutions."

Joe Vogler

AIP, It is a shame that John McCain would associate with people that identify with this party.

Is this is patriotic?

Obama by a landslide tonight, John McCains better days are behind him. He has nothing to offer and that is why he is throwing dirt.

" the fundamentals of the economy are sound"

Posted by: alan15 | October 7, 2008 11:06 AM | Report abuse

"townhall: Advantage McCain."

And why again is this an advantage to McCain- becuase McCain says it is?

Let's keep it real- at McCain's townhall meetings it's nothing more than koolaid drinking Republicans- you know, the 20% in this country that approve of George Bush.

Posted by: yellow_jacket98 | October 7, 2008 11:06 AM | Report abuse

IF THE DEBATE ISN'T RIGGED FOR OBAMA, McCAIN SHOULD WIN

Obama's plan will actually give money, approximately $1000.00 to every (family?) (individual?) regardless of whether they actually pay taxes. This is welfare, pure and simple. A redistribution of wealth, and ultimately a more gargantuan deficit. If McCain doesn't hit him on this plus demand an answer for how Obama is going to pay for his goodies to the "middle class" by lowering all these taxes and giving all that money away, then McCain deserves to lose for being stupid. He should win this "debate," but has to also point out that Obama's history of radical revolutionary associations is proof of a man with bad judgment at best and a sinister agenda at worst.

To learn the ugly truth about Obama, check out my blog: http://www.barbaralebey.blogspot.com

Posted by: mvpeach | October 7, 2008 11:01 AM | Report abuse

This is so absurd it made me laugh out loud:

"To remind Americans that Barack Hussein Obama wants to be president to implement Jeremiah Wright’s dream of a black supremacist society in America."

Thanks for the reminder of the ignorant in America!

Posted by: esmerelda123 | October 7, 2008 11:01 AM | Report abuse

manolete: Your talking points, fear-mongering and using Sen. Obama's middle name are fooling no one. Your candidates will lose and lose badly. Why? No matter how hard your party tries, it will not overturn the wave of support for a positive candidate. The angrier John Bush becomes, the more independents and moderates are turned off. The latest round of fear tactics are having the opposite effect on the voters. Your candidate is shown many times (along with his wife) stating that he will not run a negative campaign. His answer to this is to hire the Rove/Schmidt/Atwater crew to supply voters with negative campaign ads. It will be a happy day when his running mate must return home after the election to face an angry electorate in her home state, upset that she turned over control of her state to John Bush's teams of handlers and lawyers. Let's not forget that troopergate is still hanging over her head. So please keep on with the vitriol, the fear mongering, the spew of the right wing. The more the better. It simply adds to Sen. Obama's leads in all the polls and places him in the White House in January. Thank you for your support.

Posted by: jimimosey | October 7, 2008 11:01 AM | Report abuse

Obama is running out the clock. He'll be boring and level-headed. He has already won the election, so there is no reason for him to go on the offensive in the debate. Besides, as George Will so aptly put it this weekend, an angry African American man will be seen by many of the undecided voters (who, at this point, are by definition dumb) as a "militant".

God only knows what McCain is going to do. He's desperate and a tiny bit nuts, so he's unpredictable when under pressure.

Posted by: PDiddy | October 7, 2008 11:01 AM | Report abuse

I keep hearing that a town hall style format will benefit McCain.
I think McCain might be surprised to find that a town hall style debate that isn't filled with sycophants might not be as easy as what he's used to.
Advantage Obama.

Posted by: jeffc6578 | October 7, 2008 10:57 AM | Report abuse

If McCain loses his temper or gets snippy the election may be over right then. Could happen, especially given the bad situation he's in right now, but more likely he knows this danger and so he has to restrain himself -- meaning he loses the freewheeling casual style that normally makes the town hall his strength.

Posted by: billmcg1 | October 7, 2008 10:56 AM | Report abuse

Hey Manolete, Barack Obama is running, not Wright. And, if you weren't so afraid of having a black man be president, then you'd probably realize that Wright and Obama aren't exactly close any more. You'd also realize that saying the word "President" and "Palin" is enough to make anyone want to vomit. You are likely a white supremacist, which is why you are acting like such an idiot. Its time to evolve, my narrow-minded friend. Stop being so afraid of progress and improvement.

Posted by: Historymaker | October 7, 2008 10:56 AM | Report abuse

"There will be no follow-up questions -- either by the audience or moderator Tom Brokaw: Advantage McCain (?)."

Amazing that Cillizza can acknowledge the reality that McCain loses when the conversation goes into depth, yet he can still treat the McCain campaign as a serious alternative.

Posted by: Bud0 | October 7, 2008 10:56 AM | Report abuse

"Why does everyone always say that the economy is NOBAMA's territory when he has never done anything to improve the economy of Illinois or the nation?"

Posted by: Michelle_Obama | October 7, 2008 10:48 AM

Because McCain has proved that he is incompetent in economic issues (at least in this particular crisis). All Obama has to do is be an unknown, as people will roll the dice by voting for an unknown rather than a proven incompetent.

Also, the media is helping Democrats perpetrate the illusion that this is a Republican-caused problem when it was the Democrats' subprime mortgage mandates for minority housing agendas and their mismanagement of Fannie and Freddie, which set up thi mess.

Posted by: AsperGirl | October 7, 2008 10:56 AM | Report abuse

"There will be no follow-up questions -- either by the audience or moderator Tom Brokaw: Advantage McCain..." Nothing is sillier than this format. Anyone, even empty-headed Palin, can exploit this format to talk nonsense without any accountability. And we call this a "debate"? What an insult!

Posted by: TaoZen | October 7, 2008 10:56 AM | Report abuse

There will be no knockouts, little new that is said. We'll hear the famliiar answers we've heard for months. These debates are boring, non-stories. The narratives of the campaigns are well-known and they will remain the same tonight. The pundits will try to find a winner when there is no clear winner on any of these. We'll hear the typical spin for the respective camps and partisan analysts.

Posted by: zepol61 | October 7, 2008 10:54 AM | Report abuse

Dano111

"Enough with the red-necks, hill-billys and white trash "folksy" crap running our country."

The left LET the country be overrun with the illiterate, racist, and otherwise undesirable trash. You had your chance in the 1960s to greatly diminish and emasculate this element in America and build a civilized society. But you blew it by opting to wallow in drugs, alcohol, and endless fun instead.

The direct result of your or your fathers' failings was the election of that great trash collector, Ronald Reagan in 1980. He mobilized, electrified, and enlarged this element to the point of paralyzing the progressive part of the country for the next 25 years.

Look at 'em, the semi-literate, fascist, armed, reactionary element - nearly half the population of the US, with Ronald Reagan as their patron saint and Sara Palin doing the Mary Magdalene bit. Disgusting & dangerous!

Not only MUST you elect Obama to save the country (or at least to stem the bleeding) but this time around you must destroy this sick American sentiment that worships naked capitalism and materialism, despises intellect, believes in American exceptionalism, adores violence, and practices ugly arrogance and jingoism.

Posted by: VMR1 | October 7, 2008 10:54 AM | Report abuse

Hi Chris,
I expect to see Obama hammer home on the economy and what has to be done to get us on stronger footing, and I expect him to continue offering specifics about what needs to be done.
McCain, however, could/will make himself look silly and Karl Rovian (new word I just made up). He'll yammer on about "radicals" that Obama may have ridden with once in an elevator, Obama's old preacher, and other such silliness. McCain will go that route and try to avoid specific ideas ("straight talk" if you will) about budgets, money woes and the middle class. But once McCain starts talking about Rev. Wright, I think we will finally hear Obama bring up
mention Palin's witchcraft/voodoo doctor from YouTube fame.
Yeah, the no follow up rule is ridiculous, cut that may not matter much. From the first debate, it's clear that Obama will not just let McCain's accusations lie there without a response.

Posted by: jaynashvil | October 7, 2008 10:54 AM | Report abuse

"So, anyone want to try arguing there is no bias in our press?"

Posted by: dbw1 | October 7, 2008 10:31 AM

They're all corrupt as hell this year. You forgot all the faux, B.S. "fact check" sites out there now, like "factcheck.org" (funded by Obama's Annenberg) who are putting out biased and polluted fact checks biased against McCain and for Obama.

Posted by: AsperGirl | October 7, 2008 10:54 AM | Report abuse

Why the tiresome repetition of the notion that McCain shines in the townhall format?

This is patently untrue. It was in a townhall meeting that he uttered his infamous "Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran" gaffe. McCain also used the format to complain about a boy's question by calling him a "little jerk." Those may have been jokes, but they revealed the nasty, angry side of McCain's persona in a raw way that was unflattering in the extreme.

In contrast, Obama has appeared in numerous open forums and townhall sessions in small towns across the country. He seems at ease, cordial, intelligent, expressing himself through his dry wit and casual asides that really bring in the crowd.

Unlike McCain, Obama is comfortable with the interplay of ideas and is willing to engage listeners in his thought process.

I don't expect many will watch tonight's debate, but those that do will see a masterful performance by Obama and more of the halting, scary side of McCain.

Advantage: Obama.

And oh, yeah. Economic downturn hitting your own bank account or stock holdings trumps vague associations with an obscure 1960's radical every time.

McCain/Palin are pathetically desperate to keep avoiding the economic discussion.

Posted by: dee5 | October 7, 2008 10:52 AM | Report abuse

Why does everyone always say that the economy is NOBAMA's territory when he has never done anything to improve the economy of Illinois or the nation? The democrats have a proven track record over the past several years that we're in the crisis BECAUSE of them. Any intelligent person would understand this.

MCCAIN/PALIN

Posted by: Michelle_Obama | October 7, 2008 10:52 AM | Report abuse

"So, anyone want to try arguing there is no bias in our press?"

Posted by: dbw1 | October 7, 2008 10:31 AM

They're all corrupt as hell this year. You forgot all the faux, B.S. "fact check" sites out there now, like "factcheck.org" (funded by Obama's Annenberg) who are putting out biased and polluted fact checks biased against McCain and for Obama.

Posted by: AsperGirl | October 7, 2008 10:52 AM | Report abuse

Why does everyone always say that the economy is NOBAMA's territory when he has never done anything to improve the economy of Illinois or the nation? The democrats have a proven track record over the past several years that we're in the crisis BECAUSE of them. Any intelligent person would understand this.

MCCAIN/PALIN

Posted by: Michelle_Obama | October 7, 2008 10:49 AM | Report abuse

McCain will seem to win the debate but will loose the hearts and minds of a voting populace that fears the terrorist boss handing them the pink slip more than any Bin Laden.
Tough break for McCain, but a better break for the country in the long run.

Posted by: seemstome | October 7, 2008 10:49 AM | Report abuse

Why does everyone always say that the economy is NOBAMA's territory when he has never done anything to improve the economy of Illinois or the nation?

Posted by: Michelle_Obama | October 7, 2008 10:48 AM | Report abuse

Hi Chris,
I expect to see Obama hammer home on the economy and what has to be done to get us on stronger footing, and I expect him to continue offering specifics about what needs to be done. McCain, however, could/will make himself look silly and Karl Rovian (new word I just made up). I have every reason to expect Mccain to yammer on about "radicals" that Obama may have ridden with once in an elevator, and other such silliness, and try and avoid specific ideas ("straight talk" if you will) about budgets, money woes and the middle class.
Like most others, I think the no follow up rule is ridiculous. However, that may not matter much. From the first debate, it's clear that Obama will not just let McCain's accusations lie there without a response.

Posted by: jaynashvil | October 7, 2008 10:48 AM | Report abuse

Watch in my blog the Obama Youth pledge allegiance to their Führer!

http://mccain08-hillary2012.blogspot.com/

Posted by: dcpsychic | October 7, 2008 10:44 AM | Report abuse

I think adavantage Obama since the debate will be about the economy. THe fact is the public simply favors Dem ideas on this over Republican ones. McCain's proposals sound way to much like a continuation of Bush for anyone but hard core Republicans to support them, and as we know that is no longer a winning coalition. If McCain is stupid enough to bring up Bill Ayers and Jeremiah Wright then this will be the body blow. Many, many Americans, myself included, are absolutely terrified by the economic news out there. The word Depression is being tossed around by very serious people; this is not the time for a debate about trivialities and personalities. Like it or not, McCain-Palin are going to have to fight on Dem turf and they are going to lose.

Posted by: romulusj | October 7, 2008 10:42 AM | Report abuse

The time is now!
To remind Americans that Barack Hussein Obama is just another politician that will do or say whatever it takes to fulfill his political ambitions. Barack is calculated and methodical about hiding his true convictions and intentions, and uses deception to get elected.

The time is now!
For Americans to remember Barack Hussein Obama’s intimate 20 year relationship with the Priest of Hate, Jeremiah Wright, who blessed Barack and Michelle marriage and baptized both their daughters. AND, to remember the hideous videos of Jeremiah Wright’s congregation which included the Obamas, damning America with bombastic joy, after the Muslim’s criminal attack on America on 9/11.

The time is now!
For Americans to remember how Barack's Priest of Hate, Jeremiah Wright used his tax-exempt church to exercise a radical political agenda, and how he refers to Israel, as well as America, as a "racist" State. Barack's religious leader, Jeremiah Wright believes that the true 'Chosen People' are the blacks; and that black values are superior to middle-class American values.
 Indeed Barack's Priest of Hate, Jeremiah Wright is a black supremacist.

The time is now!
To remind Americans that Barack Hussein Obama wants to be president to implement Jeremiah Wright’s dream of a black supremacist society in America.

The time is now!
For Americans of all political parties to come together to preserve the future of the country we love and have always been proud of, by voting for a True American Patriot and War Hero who risked his life for our country:
John McCain for President of the United States of America.

Country First!
Americans for John McCain

Posted by: Manolete | October 7, 2008 10:41 AM | Report abuse

Don't put Obama on a pedestal. He's good, but if the only reason he wins is he's following a really bad act, that's small comfort. Don't trash McCain. He's good, but if you want him defending us in another artificial war, he's your man. And can you say the words "President Palin"? Don't blame Republicans for the current financial mess. We elected them. Remember the "Contract with America"? Remember "Rap-Master Ronnie"? who would protect us from each other but not from ourselves? Well he took out a gazillion-dollar loan (i.e. deficit) to pass on to our kids and grandkids while telling us we shouldn't have to pay for anything, and his ideological followers have been taking that to even bigger extremes. Hey America, Wake Up! You get what you pay for!

Posted by: mdunlavey1 | October 7, 2008 10:39 AM | Report abuse

A number of pundits have questioned why the McCain campaign "leaked" word that they were going to attack Obama about Ayers. This was a clear communication to any McCain or potential McCain supporters in tonight's debate audience, telling them to ask about Ayers, not the economy or health insurance or any other policy issue.

Posted by: gdcassidy | October 7, 2008 10:38 AM | Report abuse

You need to drop the "it's not her baby" smear. That's really sad.

I will be watching the debate tonight.

Posted by: blevins20061 | October 7, 2008 10:37 AM | Report abuse

Chris, why are you soooo excited about the "debate" when no followup questions are allowed. It is a travesty when either of the participants cannot be ridiculed in the followup format for refusing/prevaricating to answer any question. Case in point: Palin actually saying that she was not about to satisfy either the moderator (Ifill) or Biden with any answer she may give (which was more often than not... had much to do with the question posed. Not being able to ask again/or followup to clarify is ridiculous.

Posted by: mendonsa | October 7, 2008 10:35 AM | Report abuse

Why no follow up questions? Are these guys afraid?

Palin continues the dumbing down of the executive and these guys seem intent on locking in gains in that regard.

Show some leadership .. screw the format and engage the audience.

Posted by: tslats | October 7, 2008 10:33 AM | Report abuse

McCain advantage was on national security issues not economics...The debate format is on economics therefore advantage Obama...

McCain losing the first debate which was geared to his strenght on national security was a strategic blunder that will cost him the election.

Posted by: citystreet | October 7, 2008 10:31 AM | Report abuse

McCain advantage is on national security issues not economics...The debate format is on economics therefore advantage Obama...

McCain losing the first debate on national security was a strategic blunder that will cost him the election. The pressure is on McCain to win the debate tonight and therefore more likely to take changes and make mistakes. There is less pressure on Obama since he owns this topic so he needs to keep it tactful and simple as he breaks down these complex economics issue so the average Joe can follow along as well and he should easily walk away a winner.

Posted by: citystreet | October 7, 2008 10:31 AM | Report abuse

NJ has 15 not 14 electoral votes

Posted by: JohnCadmus | October 7, 2008 10:31 AM | Report abuse

ghendric

It's true to a large extent that the Dems & Repubs are, as you put it so aptly, two cheeks of the same arse. They both believe in USA, Inc. and both are blind to its nearly complete entropy. However, with Democrats, I'll have a hope of getting a national health insurance so that we may catch up with Europe in at least one socio-economic parameter, albeit some 50 years late. Also, if I lose a job, with Democrats in power I'll probably
be able to collect unemployment for up to 1 year - at my age (over 50) and in this economy this may mean a difference between having some time to find a new job and going bankrupt.

So, even if Obama has cavorted with the Devil himself, I'll vote for him anyway.
The Republicans should all burn in hell for the economic terrorism they've unleashed upon this formerly great country since 1980.


Posted by: VMR1 | October 7, 2008 10:31 AM | Report abuse

ghendric

It's true to a large extent that the Dems & Repubs are, as you put it so aptly, two cheeks of the same arse. They both believe in USA, Inc. and both are blind to its nearly complete entropy. However, with Democrats, I'll have a hope of getting a national health insurance so that we may catch up with Europe in at least one socio-economic parameter, albeit some 50 years late. Also, if I lose a job, with Democrats in power I'll probably
be able to collect unemployment for up to 1 year - at my age (over 50) and in this economy this may mean a difference between having some time to find a new job and going bankrupt.

So, even if Obama has cavorted with the Devil himself, I'll vote for him anyway.
The Republicans should all burn in hell for the economic terrorism they've unleashed upon this formerly great country since 1980.


Posted by: VMR1 | October 7, 2008 10:31 AM | Report abuse

THE FIX (is in)

"FIRST THOUGHTS ON THE DEBATE"

"McCain was clearly in his element tonight as he ruthlessly turned his replies into sharp barbs directed at Obama's terrorist associations and Chicago corruption."
"While Obama held his own on the economy, he was clearly unprepared for the ferocity of the attack on his character. John McCain has reshaped the election to a referendum on Obama"

"REFLECTIONS TWO DAYS AFTER BELMONT"

"Apparently, voters perceived McCain's character assassination as just one more
gimmick designed to draw attention from their biggest fear of all - unemployment."

Posted by: seemstome | October 7, 2008 10:31 AM | Report abuse

mtobias1 writes
"What did McCain learn from the Keating FIve?
He clearly did not learn the important lesson that deregulation of the S&L industry cost Americans their pensions and savings."

I was thinking about that this morning. Senator McCain calls his involvement in the Keating five the worst mistake of his life. But the lesson he seems to have taken from the S&L scandal was not about the dangers posed to our economy by unethical financial people, it was about how John McCain, personally, suffered for poor judgement.

Posted by: bsimon1 | October 7, 2008 10:31 AM | Report abuse

For you doubters who think the allegations of media bias are nothing more than fabrications of paranoid conservatives, I submit Exhibit A.

Consider that today the Post and most other mainstream media are posting several stories/opinion pieces on:
- McCain's relationship to Keating (an event 20 years old)
- McCain taking $100k in campaign contributions from Keating, and the failure of Keatings S&L costing taxpayers $3 billion (an event 20 years old).
- McCain and a possible Iran/Contra connection (an event 20+ years old)
- McCain and this Navy story (an event 40 years old)

Yet, not one mention of:
- Obama's campaign receiving tens of thousands of dollars in campaign contributions from foreigners, which is illegal (a current event).
- Obama's tight relationship with Jeremiah Wright, which was closer by far than any relationship McCain had with Keating (an event 4 months old)
- Obama receiving as much money from Fannie Mae as McCain ever did from Keating, and Fannie will cost taxpayers up to $1 TRILLION, compared to the $3 billion cost of Keating's failure (an event 3 months old).

It is laughable that these guys like Dobbs and the rest of the crew at the Post are simply out today posting whatever crap the DNC feeds them to distract from the stories of Obama illegal campaign donations, Jeremiah Wright, or any other stories that would be embarassing to the Messiah.

So, anyone want to try arguing there is no bias in our press?

Posted by: dbw1 | October 7, 2008 10:31 AM | Report abuse

"Slow and steady", said the tortoise to the hare...

What I'm hoping for tonight is a continued twist of the tourniquet from Obama, slowly cutting off the lifeblood to McCain's campaign. While many may think this format works to McCain's benefit, the town hall demands substance and ideas. To date, McCain has appeared not to have any--certainly none that are seen by the majority as new or compelling. Obama, on the other hand has appeared serious and engaged in a substantive way in what actually matters to voters. I look for Obama to continue the message that this campaign is about us, not about him and McCain and that he (Obama) gets that and McCain doesn't. Avoiding any sideshows that McCain may seek to inject, I see Obama with a clear win tonight that strengthens the trends in his direction.

Posted by: halifax1 | October 7, 2008 10:31 AM | Report abuse

Barack Obama has the bright idea, proposed yesterday, that to pay for his promised programs despite the large $700 Billion bailout, he would have to cut back on his energy program.

So, coupled with his resistance to drilling for more oil and nuclear power, we're basically going to be stuck in energy dependence.

And finding a way to sent $700 billion abroad every year to buy foreign oil on credit that is a big cause of the global liquidity bubble that underlies our financial insolvency, will be an ongoing thing in an Obama administration.

Betcha McCain will not be economically smart enough to zing Obama on this and other mistakes.

Posted by: AsperGirl | October 7, 2008 10:31 AM | Report abuse

regarding the comments from popasmoke:

""Mccain's campaign now begin to function like the Nazi party. I noticed this in their convention.

" You saw that republican convention, it looked like a gathering of the Nazi party. Signs with "Country first" and all the speeches in the effect of "You are either with us or you are not real americans or patriots"
Another good quote from the Nazi's that applies to the republicans is:

Quote:
“…it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship. … All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger.”
- Hermann Goering, founder of the Gestapo and one of the main architects of Nazi Germany.

""

sadly you are quite correct.

Posted by: akpat | October 7, 2008 10:29 AM | Report abuse

regarding the comments from popasmoke:

""Mccain's campaign now begin to function like the Nazi party. I noticed this in their convention.

" You saw that republican convention, it looked like a gathering of the Nazi party. Signs with "Country first" and all the speeches in the effect of "You are either with us or you are not real americans or patriots"
Another good quote from the Nazi's that applies to the republicans is:

Quote:
“…it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship. … All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger.”
- Hermann Goering, founder of the Gestapo and one of the main architects of Nazi Germany.

""

sadly you are quite correct.

Posted by: akpat | October 7, 2008 10:29 AM | Report abuse

The McCai/ Palin rallies are turning into the closest thing to a KKK rally. People yelling Terrorist and Kill Him at political rally sets this country back 40 years and shoudl scare every American. If John McCain does nothing to stop this spread of hatred he will ruin himself forever and our dear Ms. Palin will be known as the next best thing to David Dukes.

Posted by: kaytemmel | October 7, 2008 10:29 AM | Report abuse

The McCai/ Palin rallies are turning into the closest thing to a KKK rally. People yelling Terrorist and Kill Him at a political rally sets this country back 40 years and shoudl scare every American. If John McCain does nothing to stop this spread of hatred he will ruin himself forever and our dear Ms. Palin will be known as the next best thing to David Dukes.

Posted by: kaytemmel | October 7, 2008 10:29 AM | Report abuse

The McCai/ Palin rallies are turning into the closest thing to a KKK rally. People yelling Terrorist and Kill Him at a political rally sets this country back 40 years and shoudl scare every American. If John McCain does nothing to stop this spread of hatred he will ruin himself forever and our dear Ms. Palin will be known as the next best thing to David Dukes.

Posted by: kaytemmel | October 7, 2008 10:29 AM | Report abuse

ghendric

It's true to a large extent that the Dems & Repubs are, as you put it so aptly, two cheeks of the same arse. They both believe in USA, Inc. and both are blind to its nearly complete entropy. However, with Democrats, I'll have a hope of getting a national health insurance so that we may catch up with Europe in at least one socio-economic parameter, albeit some 50 years late. Also, if I lose a job, with Democrats in power I'll probably
be able to collect unemployment for up to 1 year - at my age (over 50) and in this economy this may mean a difference between having some time to find a new job and going bankrupt.

So, even if Obama has cavorted with the Devil himself, I'll vote for him anyway.
The Republicans should all burn in hell for the economic terrorism they've unleashed upon this formerly great country since 1980.


Posted by: VMR1 | October 7, 2008 10:29 AM | Report abuse

"Slow and steady", said the tortoise to the hare...

What I'm hoping for tonight is a continued twist of the tourniquet from Obama, slowly cutting off the lifeblood to McCain's campaign. While many may think this format works to McCain's benefit, the town hall demands substance and ideas. To date, McCain has appeared not to have any--certainly none that are seen by the majority as new or compelling. Obama, on the other hand has appeared serious and engaged in a substantive way in what actually matters to voters. I look for Obama to continue the message that this campaign is about us, not about him and McCain and that he (Obama) gets that and McCain doesn't. Avoiding any sideshows that McCain may seek to inject, I see Obama with a clear win tonight that strengthens the trends in his direction.

Posted by: halifax1 | October 7, 2008 10:29 AM | Report abuse

America or the rest of the world doesnt want an old out of touch fuddy-duddy in the White House.

Enough with the red-necks, hill-billys and white trash "folksy" crap running our country.

It will be refreshing to have someone who is cultured, refined, respected internationally, intelligent and diplomatic.

Posted by: Dano111 | October 7, 2008 10:29 AM | Report abuse

Mccain's campaign now begin to function like the Nazi party. I noticed this in their convention.

" You saw that republican convention, it looked like a gathering of the Nazi party. Signs with "Country first" and all the speeches in the effect of "You are either with us or you are not real americans or patriots"
Another good quote from the Nazi's that applies to the republicans is:

Quote:
“…it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship. … All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger.”
- Hermann Goering, founder of the Gestapo and one of the main architects of Nazi Germany.
See anything familiar?

And now this just yesterday.

"Press kept under a watchful eye

CLEARWATER -- Constantly under the watchful eyes of security, the media wasn't permitted to wander around inside Coachman Park to talk to Sarah Palin supporters. When reporters tried to leave the designated press area and head toward the bleachers where the crowd was seated, an escort would dart out of nowhere and confront him or her and say, "Can I help you?'' and turn the person around.
When one reporter asked an escort, who would not give her name, why the press wasn't allowed to mingle, she said that in the past, negative things had been written. The campaign wanted to avoid that possibility Monday."
-- Times staff writer Eileen Schulte

What next, "Do you have your papers". and now the shouts in the rallies of "Kill him, Kill him" as Palin eggs them on.
These are some evil people and we can only use our imagination what kind of white house they would run. They would run the most secretive corrupt white house in history, making Bush and Cheney look like they were an open book.

Posted by: popasmoke | October 7, 2008 10:29 AM | Report abuse

I predict Obama's going to win the debate in accordance with the following scenario:

While everyone is holding their breaths for a negativity-controlled slapfight of smears between the candidates, Obama will sandbag McCain with a surprisingly articulate, insightful discussion of the current economic disruption's technical points.

McCain will utter more economic-idiot stuff that implies he can solve the complex economic crisis we face with his "economic plan" of attacking earmarks and cutting taxes.

It's the economy, stupid.

Posted by: AsperGirl | October 7, 2008 10:29 AM | Report abuse

mtobias1 writes
"What did McCain learn from the Keating FIve?
He clearly did not learn the important lesson that deregulation of the S&L industry cost Americans their pensions and savings."

I was thinking about that this morning. Senator McCain calls his involvement in the Keating five the worst mistake of his life. But the lesson he seems to have taken from the S&L scandal was not about the dangers posed to our economy by unethical financial people, it was about how John McCain, personally, suffered for poor judgement.

Posted by: bsimon1 | October 7, 2008 10:29 AM | Report abuse

Mr. McCain is letting on that he will cut Medicare and Medicaid by up to 1.3 trillion bucks over ten years in order to fund his healthcare tax credit.

Today's WSJ:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB12231550...

Good bye Florida.

Posted by: mtobias1 | October 7, 2008 10:27 AM | Report abuse

regarding the comments from popasmoke:

""Mccain's campaign now begin to function like the Nazi party. I noticed this in their convention.

" You saw that republican convention, it looked like a gathering of the Nazi party. Signs with "Country first" and all the speeches in the effect of "You are either with us or you are not real americans or patriots"
Another good quote from the Nazi's that applies to the republicans is:

Quote:
“…it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship. … All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger.”
- Hermann Goering, founder of the Gestapo and one of the main architects of Nazi Germany.

""

sadly you are quite correct.

Posted by: akpat | October 7, 2008 10:25 AM | Report abuse

mtobias1 writes
"What did McCain learn from the Keating FIve?
He clearly did not learn the important lesson that deregulation of the S&L industry cost Americans their pensions and savings."

I was thinking about that this morning. Senator McCain calls his involvement in the Keating five the worst mistake of his life. But the lesson he seems to have taken from the S&L scandal was not about the dangers posed to our economy by unethical financial people, it was about how John McCain, personally, suffered for poor judgement.

Posted by: bsimon1 | October 7, 2008 10:25 AM | Report abuse

PALIN BOMBSHELL!

Why wasn't Sara Plain at least 7 months pregnant in this public, Governors photo taken with President Bush in February 2008?

Her baby was supposedly born on April 18, 2008.

http://www.subnet.nga.org/centennial/2008Meeting.htm (Feb, 2008) Click "view larger photo".

This photo is from March 14th 2008, where she clearly is not pregnant:

http://www.daylife.com/photo/0fcQ5EM7gafd9

Finally, she is also on the cover of December issue of Vogue which was taken December 12, 2007. She should have been 4-5 months preganant. Clearly shes not.

Reportedly, her water broke the day before or hours before she gave birth in Texas and flew 8 hour to Alaska in labor? A doctor/airline would not allow this.

Posted by: Dano111 | October 7, 2008 10:16 AM | Report abuse

Obama is going to win the dabate, hands down.
McCai/Palin are doing NOTHING AT ALL to explain to people what their plan is for the economic mess we are in. That's because they don't have one! All the GOP ticket is doing is inciting hate. They are bringing out even the closet racists. It is disgusting, shameful and downright ugly. I'm sick and tired of politicians getting away with this stuff. I (unfortunetly) think they need to make laws against this kind of hatred. It's too bad that you would have to consider a law just for people to act humanely! This is a dark, dark stage in America when people are so afraid of not getting power they incite hate to get their way. I am deeply ashamed for them.

Posted by: MARYB2 | October 7, 2008 10:15 AM | Report abuse

I have no doubt that Sen. Obama will win the debate. His calm assurance and self-confidence will make McCain look unsure and cranky. The economy, the war in Iraq, VP selection and the fact that the American people are sick, tired and scared will all combine to Obama's advantage. I predict that John Mc. will lose his temper!!

Posted by: flora1 | October 7, 2008 10:15 AM | Report abuse

I have no doubt that Sen. Obama will win the debate. His calm assurance and self-confidence will make McCain look unsure and cranky. The economy, the war in Iraq, VP selection and the fact that the American people are sick, tired and scared will all combine to Obama's advantage. I predict that John Mc. will lose his temper!!

Posted by: flora1 | October 7, 2008 10:15 AM | Report abuse

I have no doubt that Sen. Obama will win the debate. His calm assurance and self-confidence will make McCain look unsure and cranky. The economy, the war in Iraq, VP selection and the fact that the American people are sick, tired and scared will all combine to Obama's advantage. I predict that John Mc. will lose his temper!!

Posted by: flora1 | October 7, 2008 10:13 AM | Report abuse

Uggghhh... I keep reading things about how "Obama looks youthful and positive behind the podium" and "McCain looks wise and authoritative" and blah blah blah snarf snarf. I hate that we decide the winner of the debate on qualities such as this. Consider it hand-wringing if you will but I'm quite sure FDR's crippled legs and Abe Lincoln's ugly mug looked none-too-attractive on stage, yet it can hardly be denied that these were two of the greatest presidents we've ever had. Maybe their intellect and ideas are more important, eh? Besides, if this were a beauty contest, we'd all be saying "President Palin" next January... and no one in his/her right mind wants that.

Posted by: Jazzgasm | October 7, 2008 10:13 AM | Report abuse

Fellow Americans or Fellow Partisans as the Media would prefer, it is foolish to believe there is a winner in a Presidential debate more over there is always a looser and that would be the American Public. A debate is not to determine a winner yet, to hear one's opinion and defend it while acquiring support in a subjective manner is the real cause for debate. Liberals and Conservatives alike would have you believe their Candidate is more worthy just by party affiliation rather than ability and the Media Freaks will construct a dollar out of your loss and the other mans gain. Even though our Constitution is right in protecting freedom of speech we must educate our children and brothers in the ethical use of our Constitutional rights and that coupled with a good dose of Patriotism is what being an American is all about.

John McCain and Barack Obama need to realize how divided this country has become over a pack of lies each party would have us believe. The fact is the American Public seeks honest leadership, leadership that is devoted to protecting our rights and dreams alike while keeping America strong and ethically correct in the opinion of the Global Community, protecting the innocent and those who can not protect themselves, above all being a pillar of trust. The odd truth here is this is not the job or the ability of a President but, the responsibility of each American Citizen and in being that leader we will elect good Leadership.

The winner? None. The potential looser? We get closer to that answer each day we look into the mirror and fail to recognize our own heart and soul.

Posted by: paintedpinto | October 7, 2008 10:10 AM | Report abuse

edgeco1: I really don't care about the S&P 500 and I don't care about the stock falls on Wall St. The money is not real its an over inflated bubble and people need to realize that stocks can go up and stocks can go down.

It ludicrous to beleive that stocks will always go up, that house prices will always go up and yet this is what the banks and a lot of private investors beleive. How can an economy thats loosing 700,000 jobs this year have stock values that go up? The banks made bad loans. They did so assuming that house prices would rise and they could always foreclose and sell for more than they were into it for.

More important is the rampant inflation caused by the feds printing money to support a war no one wants. Gasoline and food have doubled in price in the last 8 years and we wonder why people cant pay their mortgages.

We should be bailing them out let the market crash and correct itself. Oil will fall and we wen everyone can afford to eat and buy gas they will be able to pay their mortgage.

Posted by: akpat | October 7, 2008 10:10 AM | Report abuse

Uggghhh... I keep reading things about how "Obama looks youthful and positive behind the podium" and "McCain looks wise and authoritative" and blah blah blah snarf snarf. I hate that we decide the winner of the debate on qualities such as this. Consider it hand-wringing if you will but I'm quite sure FDR's crippled legs and Abe Lincoln's ugly mug looked none-too-attractive on stage, yet it can hardly be denied that these were two of the greatest presidents we've ever had. Maybe their intellect and ideas are more important, eh? Besides, if this were a beauty contest, we'd all be saying "President Palin" next January... and no one in his/her right mind wants that.

Posted by: Jazzgasm | October 7, 2008 10:10 AM | Report abuse

Mccain's campaign now begin to function like the Nazi party. I noticed this in their convention.

" You saw that republican convention, it looked like a gathering of the Nazi party. Signs with "Country first" and all the speeches in the effect of "You are either with us or you are not real americans or patriots"
Another good quote from the Nazi's that applies to the republicans is:

Quote:
“…it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship. … All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger.”
- Hermann Goering, founder of the Gestapo and one of the main architects of Nazi Germany.
See anything familiar?

And now this just yesterday.

"Press kept under a watchful eye

CLEARWATER -- Constantly under the watchful eyes of security, the media wasn't permitted to wander around inside Coachman Park to talk to Sarah Palin supporters. When reporters tried to leave the designated press area and head toward the bleachers where the crowd was seated, an escort would dart out of nowhere and confront him or her and say, "Can I help you?'' and turn the person around.
When one reporter asked an escort, who would not give her name, why the press wasn't allowed to mingle, she said that in the past, negative things had been written. The campaign wanted to avoid that possibility Monday."
-- Times staff writer Eileen Schulte

What next, "Do you have your papers". and now the shouts in the rallies of "Kill him, Kill him" as Palin eggs them on.
These are some evil people and we can only use our imagination what kind of white house they would run. They would run the most secretive corrupt white house in history, making Bush and Cheney look like they were an open book.

Posted by: popasmoke | October 7, 2008 10:10 AM | Report abuse

The debate will most likely appear as a tie, or near to it. Neither candidate will say anything stupid enough to lose votes they already have, nor will either say anything so different and inspirational that they win on the spot. However, I think a tie comes out as Advantage Obama, since he is already winning, not to mention the economy is the most important issue to pretty much everyone, and he's far and away favored on that.

Posted by: rrcgrant | October 7, 2008 10:07 AM | Report abuse

edgeco1: I really don't care about the S&P 500 and I don't care about the stock falls on Wall St. The money is not real its an over inflated bubble and people need to realize that stocks can go up and stocks can go down.

It ludicrous to beleive that stocks will always go up, that house prices will always go up and yet this is what the banks and a lot of private investors beleive. How can an economy thats loosing 700,000 jobs this year have stock values that go up? The banks made bad loans. They did so assuming that house prices would rise and they could always foreclose and sell for more than they were into it for.

More important is the rampant inflation caused by the feds printing money to support a war no one wants. Gasoline and food have doubled in price in the last 8 years and we wonder why people cant pay their mortgages.

We should be bailing them out let the market crash and correct itself. Oil will fall and we wen everyone can afford to eat and buy gas they will be able to pay their mortgage.

Posted by: akpat | October 7, 2008 10:06 AM | Report abuse

The debate will most likely appear as a tie, or near to it. Neither candidate will say anything stupid enough to lose votes they already have, nor will either say anything so different and inspirational that they win on the spot. However, I think a tie comes out as Advantage Obama, since he is already winning, not to mention the economy is the most important issue to pretty much everyone, and he's far and away favored on that.

Posted by: rrcgrant | October 7, 2008 10:06 AM | Report abuse

Don't put Obama on a pedestal. He's good, but if the only reason he wins is he's following a really bad act, that's small comfort. Don't trash McCain. He's good, but if you want him defending us in another artificial war, he's your man. And can you say the words "President Palin"? Don't blame Republicans for the current financial mess. We elected them. Remember the "Contract with America"? Remember "Rap-Master Ronnie"? who would protect us from each other but not from ourselves? Well he took out a gazillion-dollar loan (i.e. deficit) to pass on to our kids and grandkids while telling us we shouldn't have to pay for anything, and his ideological followers have been taking that to even bigger extremes. Hey America, Wake Up! You get what you pay for!

Posted by: mdunlavey1 | October 7, 2008 10:06 AM | Report abuse

The following comments are coming from a victim of a terrorist attack. My sister died on 9/11 and I would like to challenge the American public to consider some points about the war in Iraq and how we respond to our presidential election.....

Point 1
We invaded Iraq because the Bush administration declared, before the entire world, that they had weapons of mass destruction.
The WDM were never found and it was discovered that we had false intelligence and that they were looking for a war with Iraq. The American public has refused to confront Bush and hold him accountable for this lapse on judgment on his part. The spin doctors start throwing around the phrase Operation Iraqi Freedom and we start thinking that is was for the Iraqi people's freedom we went there. Are we so gullible? I guess we are. We did not cared much about these people when the Arab's in the Southern Marshlands rebelled against the Hussein some years ago. This rebellion was encouraged by the senior Bush but he never supported them with any type of military assistance. We never finished the first Gulf War, under the Bush senior. We said that we went there to protect the Kuwait, but it was about oil. We don't care about he Arabs in the Middle East having true Democracy. How could we? Most countries in the region are governed by monarchies or dictators, which we support. Can we look in the mirror and call ourselves a "true" Democracy when you have corporations and wealthy individuals giving politicians huge amounts of money to try to influence policy for the benefit of their interest? It's there for us to see. We turn a blind I to it. We talk about special interest, when it has become a legitimate form of bribery, all legal because the Congress makes all the rules. All the politicians are guilty of making-out with this form of influence peddling. All are! Period. My Congressman and yours..all are guilty. If we want change, we have to vote all the bums out and start from scratch. To think that just changing the president and leaving the rest in power is naive. We have heard it before all the way back to who knows when, Rep or Dem...all the same rhetoric. I remember the story of the fall of the Roman Empire. The people were so busy with the bread and circus entertainment, provided by the Emperor and the Senate, that they allowed them to run the Empire to the ground. Yes the American idea is great, but much of th early economy that made us "great" was based on the enslavement of others. "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness," are beautiful words, but we did not live-up to them because we did not recognize the fact that blacks are also humans.
Point 2
The economic situation is serious and the politicians and the citizens don't want to face reality. We cannot keep living spending and spending forever. We must learn to save and invest for the future of all Americans. I have a daughter and it scares me what life will be like for her, in the future. We once were a great industrial nation and we have become a nation that is good a producing financial instruments that are toxic. We produce lots of fluff in Hollywood and great gadgets like the IPod and IPhone. What about producing more engineers, scientist, intellectuals, great minds and strong bodies? The cul-de-sacs don't produce that. We create suburban sprawls with not soul and we call that the American Dream. How tragic. We must get our house in order before things will get better. Forget about having the political will and start living up to the so-called Christian values we espouse. We could be such a selfish country sometimes. It breaks my heart. Look at New Orleans, still a wreck and know one cares. I wonder if it's because it's a predominantly Black city? Would we let that happen to say, Portland?
Point 3
Get on with governing the country the correct way. Hire people who qualify not because of the their political affiliation, but because they are the best the country can produce. Stop character attacks because you have your own political skeletons in the closet. Stop! Show character. I strongly believe in the power of redemption...but we must take some nasty medicine before we can reap the fruits of the great sacrifice that is require to truly make America great in the true sense of the word. American Dream is not to acquire things is to live up to the words that were penned by the Founding Fathers. And yes, they spoke about God in the Declaration of Independence. If we are to clean-up this mess...we cannot leave God out of this mess....God help us...
NEM

Posted by: calvary106 | October 7, 2008 10:06 AM | Report abuse

The semester's not over, but McCain has already flunked Electoral Math.

Obama will win the 252 electoral votes John Kerry got in 2004.

Obama will likely win the 20 electoral votes in Ohio.

252 + 20 = 272, more than enough to become president.

But let's McCain wins New Hampshire (5) and New Jersey (14) ---

Well, then Obama will likely win Iowa (7) and Virginia (13) and still stay comfortably ahead of McCain.

Tonight's "debate" could be fun for people who like to torture themselves. But it is unlikely that even a solid McCain "win" on TV can change the basic mathematics of the race.

Posted by: EgoNemo | October 7, 2008 10:05 AM | Report abuse

The wives of the candidates are 'very' influential in the White House and in their husband's minds. Ms. Michelle Obama, on 'that' basis, disqualifies her husband 'whoever' he is, as we really don't know. The reason is of her 'belief' in writing at Princeton when she revealed her 'true' 'inner self' hidden away from public view. On Page 9 of her Thesis she writes: Quote: "Earlier in my college career, there was 'no doubt in my mind' that as a member of the BLACK COMMUNITY, I was somehow OBLIGATED to THIS COMMUNITY and would use ALL of my present and FUTURE 'resources to BENEFIT THIS COMMUNITY..............'FIRST....AND....FOREMOST.' Ladies and Gentlemen of America, we cannot and will not have a Presidential couple who not only 'socialize' with people who are adverse to the American way and 'DENY' it by some politico speak, but who PUSH ASIDE by patronization and 'appearances' THE WHOLE LATINO AND WHITE RACES. All this 'negative' so called 'aggression'writing and comment' is NO WHERE NEAR the 'aggression'given to us Americans by the dealings of Bill Ayers, Rev. Wright, and Tony Rezko. David Axelrod's mother wrote for a Communist backed newspaper in the 1950's. Axelrod also handled John Edwards, Hillary Clinton, Richard Gephardt, and the do nothing 'no money left' Duval Patrick of Massachusetts. All SHOW.... No DOUGH...
America, as citizen, veteran of Vietnam Era, I plead with you to 'come to the colors' of your country.

Posted by: fpignonejr | October 7, 2008 10:05 AM | Report abuse

Advantage McShame because it's a town hall is sloppy conventional wisdom. More than any other format, without a podium to lean on, the town hall style makes McShame look befuddled and creaky.

Obama just has to keep a straight face while McShame wanders around the stage like your crazy uncle, shouting "maverick!" and "Bill Ayers!" and this thing is locked up.

Posted by: bondjedi | October 7, 2008 10:03 AM | Report abuse

PS says:
As Mccain paces around the stage next to Obama, Mccain will look like a troll.

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Not sure about that. McCain does extremely well at these kind of things...they suit his personality. Obama can seem ill at ease in casual situations. What will work against McCain is he won't have a wholly sympathetic audience..he can get cranky dealing with voters who challenge him...Obama is much better with that.

I just don't think many will watch. We know Palin is unqualified. We know McCain can't handle a real crisis amd Obama can (guess that answers the 3am question)...so no need to see more.

Posted by: wpost4112 | October 7, 2008 10:00 AM | Report abuse

Why even ask, Chris??? Obama has made it. The more McCain plays dirty politics, the less regard we all have for him. Obama will continue to maintain his dignity, and by so doing, he will help us to maintain ours!!

My only regret is that we will not have Tim Russert there!

Posted by: Formerrepublican | October 7, 2008 9:59 AM | Report abuse

The interesting question is what will Obama do.

McCain had a solid script of playing the congenial serious war hero only interested in the good of the country, who strongly denies any mischief by any of his campaign. Issues are not his strength and he talks about values and morality. Add his war record which will probably play much larger that the first debate.

Obama will discuss issues; that is much easier for him and he has a better mind for facts. And he wants to stay calm, reassuring and presidential. So, will he ignore the mega negative campaign McCain & his staff have adopted or will he challenge John to his face. That is what I'm interested in. Will Obama make McCain own his campaign. And McCain has demonstrated he does not suffer such criticism graciously.

Posted by: s_clark | October 7, 2008 9:59 AM | Report abuse

We all know we cannot trust the GOP or John McCain with the future of our great nation.

Country First!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3i5T301aAWg

Posted by: sobugged1 | October 7, 2008 9:58 AM | Report abuse

Why even ask, Chris??? Obama has made it. The more McCain plays dirty politics, the less regard we all have for him. Obama will continue to maintain his dignity, and by so doing, he will help us to maintain ours!!

Posted by: Formerrepublican | October 7, 2008 9:58 AM | Report abuse

The interesting question is what will Obama do.

McCain had a solid script of playing the congenial serious war hero only interested in the good of the country, who strongly denies any mischief by any of his campaign. Issues are not his strength and he talks about values and morality. Add his war record which will probably play much larger that the first debate.

Obama will discuss issues; that is much easier for him and he has a better mind for facts. And he wants to stay calm, reassuring and presidential. So, will he ignore the mega negative campaign McCain & his staff have adopted or will he challenge John to his face. That is what I'm interested in. Will Obama make McCain own his campaign. And McCain has demonstrated he does not suffer such criticism graciously.

Posted by: s_clark | October 7, 2008 9:57 AM | Report abuse

Physicality in Obama's favor - he's tall, lean, moves well, and can eat of a lot of that stage in a single stride. His facial features are strong and well-defined. McCain is significantly shorter and dumpier, and age has given him chipmunk cheeks where once he also had strong features. He loves the shoulders-curved-around-the-mic posture to prowl with. But if he uses it next to Obama's erect bearing he'll look like a beetle scuttling along the stage by comparison.

Obama gets him on vocals, too. Rounded, well-balanced tones, never screechy or whiny. McCain will lose people when he adopts the somewhat smarmy tone he used in the last debate whenever he insinuated that Obama did not understand an issue. McCain also has the Old Guy Whistle sometimes on the [s] sound, which will remind people of a grumpy grandpa, not a maverick world leader.

McCain has a clear advantage with the format. He eats this stuff up and asks for seconds. Obama is a polished speaker when he has prepared comments, but not all that quick on his feet when he doesn't get a chance to clarify or expand upon his thoughts.

McCain will need to keep the focus away from economics, as a gazillion others have noted, but he will also need to steer away from the foreign policy that most people care the most about: Iraq. That's going to handicap him.

Oddly, while the Keating scandal is egregious and McCain's ties are irrefutable - McCain himself termed it a great "moral failing" on his part - it does not work in Obama's favor. It was a LONG time ago. Many younger voters will not remember it, and McCain will knock Obama for "looking to the past" if Obama chooses to focus on it.

All in all, McCain will bring his A game, and he'll be scrappy as hell doing it. In terms of image, he'll have to work hard at overcoming Obama's natural advantage, and in the end, I don't think he can. Can he win on substance? We'll see...

Posted by: cantante | October 7, 2008 9:57 AM | Report abuse

It doesn't matter between the two who wins this election. They're both cheeks on the same ass. It's been that way with the Democrat and Republican party for decades now and we all just keep voting for the same "change" over and over again. The American sheeple need to stop drinking the water and get off of the meds...

Posted by: ghendric | October 7, 2008 9:53 AM | Report abuse

I am hoping that both candidates refrain from personal attacks and stick to the facts. As there are no follow ups it will be hard to defend against personal attacks. It will be the role of the moderator to assure personal attacks are cut short.

Posted by: LexandSue | October 7, 2008 9:51 AM | Report abuse

People on this board repeat their comments way too much.

Obama appears to know where is going, and people understand where he is leading to. McCain, on the other hand is full and anger and lacks any vision. He has squandered alot of the goodwill he built up in 2000. He is a non player, except in the realm of slander

Posted by: nclwtk | October 7, 2008 9:47 AM | Report abuse

Less than 150 days as a US Senator and Hussein Obama is ready to be President?

STOP SMOKING CRACK!

Posted by: edgeco1 | October 7, 2008 9:46 AM | Report abuse

Less than 150 days as a US Senator and Hussein Obama is ready to be President?

STOP SMOKING CRACK!

Posted by: edgeco1 | October 7, 2008 9:45 AM | Report abuse

I have one question. What percent of our voting population is truly undecided about these two candidates? There is an awful lot of noise being made and I can't help but wonder--what's the point? We have a choice and I believe the nature and character of each candidate has already been revealed. We are polarized on some fundamental issues.

World history provides examples from which we could learn, we are not as powerful (or won't be for long) as we think we are. There is one source of true strength -- it is that power upon which those who struggled to establish this country relied.

Posted by: mikemartines | October 7, 2008 9:44 AM | Report abuse

Am I better off than I was 8 years ago? To be honest, yes. But the Bush administration had nothing to do with it. Is the country better off? Lessee, a huge budget surplus - squandered; Neo-con 9/11 conspiracy; recession (while denying we are in a recession); record high profits for oil companies; inflation for the rest of us; a complete idiot in the White House with Satan himself as Vice President (who actually wielded the power); "regime change, in an oil-rich country, while the poor, non-oil producing areas like Darfur, Somalia, Zimbabwe, Uzbekistan, North Korea, who really need "regime change" are ignored; the erstwhile most respected and beloved nation on the planet becomming the most hated and most feared nation. Yeah, I'd say we've pretty much gone down the tubes. And, guess what? The Republicans have no one to blame but themselves and their belecose, "damn the consequences, on with the "New American Century" !!" attitude.
Umm, it's time for a change. It's time to remove, and keep out the hateful, war mongers who think the only answers are to drill, thumb noses and kill.

Posted by: sarmstrong71 | October 7, 2008 9:41 AM | Report abuse

same team
same tactics

9th year

Posted by: klondike2 | October 7, 2008 9:35 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: edgeco1 | October 7,
"Hopefully the public will get over their African guilt trip and vote for someone with a history of defending this Country and not someone that hangs out with leftover terrorists, and wacky racist preachers!"
==================================
Edge,

TRY not to get so emotional, my boy. It seems from the polls the vast majority of Americans (us) are influenced by fact. Not emotion.

Posted by: T-Prop | October 7, 2008 9:24 AM | Report abuse

I probably won't know anything until I see the final results of that CNN real-time ticker of Ohio voter's general well-being.

http://www.squatcrouch.com/

Posted by: Squatty_HJ | October 7, 2008 9:22 AM | Report abuse

they lied to us about wmd
they lied to us about Palin's readiness and brains
they lied to us about Katrina
they lied to us about Presidential signing statements
they lied to us about the economy
they lied to us about Libby
they lied to us about being greeted as Liberators
they lied to us about mushroom clouds
they lied to us about Gonzales
they lied to us about global warming
they lied to us about the fundamentals of our economy being strong
they lied to us about judicial appointments
they lied to us about abu ghraib
they lied to us about secret prison camps
they lied to us about "mission accomplished"
they lied to us about closed door energy policy meetings
they lied to us about Afghanistan
they lied to us about lobbyists writing their economic proposals
they lied to us

they lied to us

they lied to us

same lying team
same lying tactics

9th year

throw McCain and Palin out on their a$$es.

America get angry

...for being lied to... still...

throw these bums out! NOW!

Posted by: klondike2 | October 7, 2008 9:20 AM | Report abuse

I probably won't know anything until I see the final results of that CNN real-time ticker of Ohio voter's general well-being.

http://www.squatcrouch.com/

Posted by: Squatty_HJ | October 7, 2008 9:20 AM | Report abuse

Doesn't really matter who wins the debate. The media talking heads will get it wrong again. The republicans will say how "we just don't know that much about Obama" and the democratic leaning talking heads will say "it was a tie so our guy won."

John McCain railed against Obama for telling the Pakistanis what he'd do if he had actionable intelligence that could take out Osama Bin Laden. "You don't tell your enemy how you're going to attack him. You don't say those things out loud. Senator Obama just doesn't understand." What did McCain do over the weekend? Tell the press that he was going to make Obama's character an issue.

What does our dumb, one trick pony press do? They begin to make McCain's case for him by bringing up the Ayers nonsense.

Also from yesterday's Klan rallies...oops.. Mccain-Palin campign rallies: They are crossing the line with the personal attacks. Disagree with the man's policies or his arguments but you don't call him a terrorist. Some of the folks in this country don't need too much of an excuse to hate a black candidate but when you wrap yourself in a flag, call yourself a patriot and then paint your opponent as a terrorist your treading on dangerous ground. There are nuts in every crowd and to get them frothing at the mouth to prove their patriotism against a "terrorist" you may be granting a license to do something horrible. There is video-tape where someone screamed out "He's a terrorist" "Kill him" in response to one of McCain's rhetorical questions.
Is that what McCain and Palin really want? or do they want to win an election?

This is what I wish someone would ask McCain.

Posted by: gtaylor301 | October 7, 2008 9:20 AM | Report abuse

I probably won't know anything until I see the final results of that CNN real-time ticker of Ohio voter's general well-being.

http://www.squatcrouch.com/

Posted by: Squatty_HJ | October 7, 2008 9:20 AM | Report abuse

Obama should handily take the debate, considering the current polling and economic situation. The only way McCain can look good is if Obama stumbles over himself, which he is not prone to doing whatsoever. If McCain goes as negative as all of the pundits think that he will, it will look desperate and make it seem like McCain doesn't understand the plight of normal Americans in this time of economic crisis, a problem that he already has with middle class voters.

Posted by: JoeD1 | October 7, 2008 9:19 AM | Report abuse

they lied to us about wmd
they lied to us about Palin's readiness and brains
they lied to us about Katrina
they lied to us about Presidential signing statements
they lied to us about the economy
they lied to us about Libby
they lied to us about being greeted as Liberators
they lied to us about mushroom clouds
they lied to us about Gonzales
they lied to us about global warming
they lied to us about the fundamentals of our economy being strong
they lied to us about judicial appointments
they lied to us about abu ghraib
they lied to us about secret prison camps
they lied to us about "mission accomplished"
they lied to us about closed door energy policy meetings
they lied to us about Afghanistan
they lied to us about lobbyists writing their economic proposals
they lied to us

they lied to us

they lied to us

same lying team
same lying tactics

9th year

throw McCain and Palin out on their a$$es.

America get angry

...for being lied to... still...

throw these bums out! NOW!

Posted by: klondike2 | October 7, 2008 9:19 AM | Report abuse

they lied to us about wmd
they lied to us about Palin's readiness and brains
they lied to us about Katrina
they lied to us about Presidential signing statements
they lied to us about the economy
they lied to us about Libby
they lied to us about being greeted as Liberators
they lied to us about mushroom clouds
they lied to us about Gonzales
they lied to us about global warming
they lied to us about the fundamentals of our economy being strong
they lied to us about judicial appointments
they lied to us about abu ghraib
they lied to us about secret prison camps
they lied to us about "mission accomplished"
they lied to us about closed door energy policy meetings
they lied to us about Afghanistan
they lied to us about lobbyists writing their economic proposals
they lied to us

they lied to us

they lied to us

same lying team
same lying tactics

9th year

throw McCain and Palin out on their a$$es.

America get angry

...for being lied to... still...

throw these bums out! NOW!

Posted by: klondike2 | October 7, 2008 9:19 AM | Report abuse

Visually, Obama looks better, even standing behind a podium. He's tall, lean, young and his facial expressions are relaxed and happy. McCain in full figure is stiff, hunched, tired looking, and his facial expressions are gruff and angry. I think camera angle and framing will be interesting in how much of these differences we the audience sees. The spoken text is less important since these so-called debates are really dual press conferences and both candidates have prepared answers. I think the more McCain lumbers around the stage and animates himself the poorer he will do. The best he can hope for is stalemate but what is more likely; defeat.

Posted by: thegwoe | October 7, 2008 9:19 AM | Report abuse

I probably won't know anything until I see the final results of that CNN real-time ticker of Ohio voter's general well-being.

http://www.squatcrouch.com/

Posted by: Squatty_HJ | October 7, 2008 9:19 AM | Report abuse

There is a downturn in the economy about every ten years, regardless of who is president. When Bush took office, we were experiencing the collapse of the Dot Com bubble from the Clinton years and high tech stocks on NASDAQ were in the crapper.

We then had the fall out of the 9-11 disaster. No air travel, no vacations, airlines going under and the stock market was in turmoil, plus the expense of hitting the Taliban in Afghanistan.

Meanwhile, China and India started getting more prosperous and started consuming a lot more oil. Every year since 2002, the price of oil went up because of international demand and the stupidity of our Democratic Congress which kept us from drilling for domestic oil and building nuke plants for electricity. In spite of this, Detroit kept building gas hog SUVs and pickups.

Meanwhile, Wall Street started running amok. Computer trading allowed for giant swings in prices for commodities, financials, real estate, etc. The laws regulating Wall Street were written 30 - 40 years ago, long before the age of the personal computer, and greed went unchecked and corrupted Congressional oversight and politicians of both parties.

Posted by: alance | October 7, 2008 9:16 AM | Report abuse

I probably won't know anything until I see the final results of that CNN real-time ticker of Ohio voter's general well-being.

http://www.squatcrouch.com/

Posted by: Squatty_HJ | October 7, 2008 9:15 AM | Report abuse

You forgot about the physicality factor. Without a podium, the candidates' physiques will be on display, and could have some impact. Contrast Obama's tall cool drink of water with McCain's older, wider mug.

Posted by: why1201 | October 7, 2008 9:14 AM | Report abuse

As Mccain paces around the stage next to Obama, Mccain will look like a troll.

Posted by: popasmoke | October 7, 2008 9:14 AM | Report abuse

Can't wait for Obama to say he agrees with something McCain says...

...and for McCain's supporters to react by saying anyone who would agree with McCain is unfit to be President.

Posted by: CuckooRaja | October 7, 2008 9:13 AM | Report abuse

I probably won't know anything until I see the final results of that CNN real-time ticker of Ohio voter's general well-being.

http://www.squatcrouch.com/

Posted by: Squatty_HJ | October 7, 2008 9:11 AM | Report abuse

Obviously, McCain will win because he actually has answers and plans besides transforming the USA into a socialist nation. Obama's plan will only further cripple this nation like previous democratic policies which are the root cause of our mortgage collapse.

Posted by: bz7kyf | October 7, 2008 9:07 AM | Report abuse

What did McCain learn from the Keating FIve?
He clearly did not learn the important lesson that deregulation of the S&L industry cost Americans their pensions and savings.
The same push to deregulate has cost us $700 billion so far in this ruination.
McCain did not learn anything important form that scandal that al ost cost him everything.
I think that it should have cost him everything.

Posted by: mtobias1 | October 7, 2008 9:06 AM | Report abuse

OBAMA in a landslide America is on to the tactics of Rove, Schmidt, Davis the same clowns that brought us our worst President ever George W. Bush. OBAMANOS! YES WE WILL BRING THE CHANGE WE NEED NOW!

Posted by: pedraza1 | October 7, 2008 9:06 AM | Report abuse

I'm anxious to hear McCain defend his recently announced plan to cut Medicare benefits. That should be a winner in Florida, eh?

Posted by: dbh1 | October 7, 2008 9:05 AM | Report abuse

What did McCain learn from the Keating FIve?
He clearly did not learn the important lesson that deregulation of the S&L industry cost Americans their pensions and savings.
The same push to deregulate has cost us $700 billion so far in this ruination.
McCain did not learn anything important form that scandal that al ost cost him everything.
I think that it should have cost him everything.

Posted by: mtobias1 | October 7, 2008 9:05 AM | Report abuse

African guilt trip? Get a life, racist. We were talking about the economy and other important issues. If you can't act like an adult, get out of the forum.

Posted by: falcon269 | October 7, 2008 9:04 AM | Report abuse

African guilt trip? Get a life, racist. We were talking about the economy and other important issue. If you can't act like an adult, get out of the forum.

Posted by: falcon269 | October 7, 2008 9:03 AM | Report abuse

I think that the ball will stay with Obama, the public eill want to know about the economy more than anything else, and I expect that this will be the main topic of the debate.

P.S. Then again I can only assume, I am only a native of that little emerald Isle accross the pond, who hasn't visited the U.S. in 10 years, down to the month now that I think of it.

Posted by: coldrav3n | October 7, 2008 9:01 AM | Report abuse

All that matters tonight is the economy. Gay rights and abortion serve no purpose in politics but to divide us. Do you really care about if a gay couple can visit each other on the death bed in a hospital when you can barely afford to fill up your own vehicle to make it to work?

It's time to STOP LETTING THEM DIVIDE US!

Look at these gas prices in America!

http://www.congratstothewinners.com/2008/10/gas-prices-in-america.html

Posted by: FriendlyFred1 | October 7, 2008 9:00 AM | Report abuse

McCain is very quick to forgive himself. Having stipulated that the Keating 5 was a great moral failure on his part, he is ready to move on. But he is much more reluctant to extend such a speedy forgiveness to Obama, who has disavowed Wright and Rezko equally stridently. It is all pretty sanctimonious on the part of McCain. The coward from Wasilla should butt out until she is ready to come out of hiding. A coward with lipstick is just lipstick.

Posted by: falcon269 | October 7, 2008 8:56 AM | Report abuse

Are you better off then you were before Pelosi and the Democrats took over BOTH houses of Congress?

S&P 500 WAS at a record high and rising then;
Today after two years of the DO NOTHING BUT TAKE FROM FREDDIE AND FANNIE,
the S&P is DOWN a full 1/3 from the high!

The Financial markets need bailing out, Freddie and Fannie taken over by the Government, The DEMOCRATS did not heed McCain and said that they were in fine shape ( Check out Barney Frank ) ( We would have been better of listening to Barney the Purple Dinosaur!

Pelosi and the Democrats wanted to give a MINIMUM of 1/3 of any profits from the bailout to SPECIAL INTERESTS instead of the American People, but was stopped by John McCain!

Hopefully the public will get over their African guilt trip and vote for someone with a history of defending this Country and not someone that hangs out with leftover terrorists, and wacky racist preachers!

edge.

Posted by: edgeco1 | October 7, 2008 8:54 AM | Report abuse

McCain is very quick to forgive himself. Having stipulated that the Keating 5 was a great moral failure on his part, he is ready to move on. But he is much more reluctant to extend such a speedy forgiveness to Obama, who has disavowed Wright and Rezko equally stridently. It is all pretty sanctimonious on the part of McCain. The coward from Wasilla should butt out until she is ready to come out of hiding. A coward with lipstick is just lipstick.

Posted by: falcon269 | October 7, 2008 8:54 AM | Report abuse

The moderator will likely not enforce any 'no follow up' rules. As an earlier commenter pointed out, Palin set the bar low on that. McCain will be sarcastic, vitriolic, and verging on slanderous; Obama will be cerebral, for the most part. I believe that Obama will win on the issues being discussed, but the perception will be that 'McCain landed good punches'.

Posted by: CeruleanBill | October 7, 2008 8:53 AM | Report abuse

Are you better off then you were before Pelosi and the Democrats took over BOTH houses of Congress?

S&P 500 WAS at a record high and rising then;
Today after two years of the DO NOTHING BUT TAKE FROM FREDDIE AND FANNIE,
the S&P is DOWN a full 1/3 from the high!

The Financial markets need bailing out, Freddie and Fannie taken over by the Government, The DEMOCRATS did not heed McCain and said that they were in fine shape ( Check out Barney Frank ) ( We would have been better of listening to Barney the Purple Dinosaur!

Pelosi and the Democrats wanted to give a MINIMUM of 1/3 of any profits from the bailout to SPECIAL INTERESTS instead of the American People, but was stopped by John McCain!

Hopefully the public will get over their African guilt trip and vote for someone with a history of defending this Country and not someone that hangs out with leftover terrorists, and wacky racist preachers!

edge.

Posted by: edgeco1 | October 7, 2008 8:53 AM | Report abuse

me say john hussein macaine win cause pick hottie with big safety glasses big hair bathing suit and high heels and wink to make guys go uhhhhhh so he gonna win and croak and president pallen gonna get countries who no do what usa tell them like iran and france so forget economy democracy party dummies goverment not for help nobody just make money and no worry about economie pallen macaine o8/ yayyyyy!!!!!!!!

Posted by: DaveMiner | October 7, 2008 8:53 AM | Report abuse

POW!
MAVERICK!
CHANGE!

There....we have the whole McCain stump speach summed up. No need to watch.

Posted by: hdtex1 | October 7, 2008 8:52 AM | Report abuse

McCain is very quick to forgive himself. Having stipulated that the Keating 5 was a great moral failure on his part, he is ready to move on. But he is much more reluctant to extend such a speedy forgiveness to Obama, who has disavowed Wright and Rezko equally stridently. It is all pretty sanctimonious on the part of McCain. The coward from Wasilla should butt out until she is ready to come out of hiding. A coward with lipstick is just lipstick.

Posted by: falcon269 | October 7, 2008 8:52 AM | Report abuse

Are you better off then you were before Pelosi and the Democrats took over BOTH houses of Congress?

S&P 500 at a record high and rising then;
Today after two years of the DO NOTHING BUT TAKE FROM FREDDIE AND FANNIE,
the S&P is DOWN a full 1/3 from the high!

The Financial markets need bailing out, Freddie and Fannie taken over by the Government, The DEMOCRATS did not heed McCain and said that they were in fine shape ( Check out Barney Frank ) ( We would have been better of listening to Barney the Purple Dinosaur!

Pelosi and the Democrats wanted to give a MINIMUM of 1/3 of any profits from the bailout to SPECIAL INTERESTS instead of the American People, but was stopped by John McCain!

Hopefully the public will get over their African guilt trip and vote for someone with a history of defending this Country and not someone that hangs out with leftover terrorists, and wacky racist preachers!

edge.

Posted by: edgeco1 | October 7, 2008 8:52 AM | Report abuse

me say john hussein macaine win cause pick hottie with big safety glasses big hair bathing suit and high heels and wink to make guys go uhhhhhh so he gonna win and croak and president pallen gonna get countries who no do what usa tell them like iran and france so forget economy democracy party dummies goverment not for help nobody just make money and no worry about economie pallen macaine o8/ yayyyyy!!!!!!!!

Posted by: DaveMiner | October 7, 2008 8:49 AM | Report abuse

I don't think many people will watch but I do think Obama will win. He has the momentum and most people are concerned with the economy, which majorities in polls show the issue strongly favoring Obama. I'm not sure why the town hall is considered McCain's best format as they are generally attended by partisans. Besides, McCain is looking increasingly uncomfortable, as befits one who knows the game is over...

Posted by: RickJ | October 7, 2008 8:44 AM | Report abuse

I'm not sure how many people will watch the debate as the economy is all people care about and majorities in polls shows the issue favoring Obama. Obviously, Obama has the momentum going into this (and probably coming out)to bolster his confidence. I don't think the lack of follow-up questions will prevent either of them from following up. I'm not sure why the town hall format is considered to be an advantage for McCain as those events are generally partisan affairs. (If we're lucky, we'll have a briefs vs. boxers moment.) McCain is beginning to look and act like a candidate who knows it's over...

Posted by: RickJ | October 7, 2008 8:39 AM | Report abuse

You can say there are no followups, but Palin set the bar low on that -- anyone can answer any question they want, or respond to any answer.

Posted by: nrudy | October 7, 2008 8:35 AM | Report abuse

Polster.com:

Today we see yet more evidence of the recent national gains for the Obama-Biden ticket trickling down to individual states. Seventeen new statewide polls released yesterday moved our estimates in Obama's direction in eight states. They also pushed the battleground states of Colorado and Florida into the "lean Obama" category, raising his electoral vote lead on our map to 296 to 163, with 79 states still in the toss-up category.

Posted by: wpost4112 | October 7, 2008 8:35 AM | Report abuse

Because he is behind, the stakes are higher for McCain. This means he has to take more risks and leaves himself open to a solid retort by Obama. We'll find out if Obama's ready, as he says, to throw the final punch, if not the first.

Posted by: sfcpoll | October 7, 2008 8:34 AM | Report abuse

No follow up questions? Sounds like a fairly useless event with Brokaw playing host to a glorified press conference.

Posted by: Almondboy302 | October 7, 2008 8:34 AM | Report abuse

Barak has a history of "gliding" through elections- winning by default- he won the state senate when most opponents were eliminated, his senate rival dropped out because of a sex scandal and was replaced by Alan Keyes (anyone could beat Alan Keyes in an election) and he never put HRC away- just outlasted her as his advocates had started an early campaign to make her look like she was clinging- so there was no where for her to go in June. This is his opportunity to change that. A win here would put the election away.

Let's hope he can muster what ever it takes to win tonight.

Leon

Posted by: nycLeon | October 7, 2008 8:32 AM | Report abuse

It's the economy. Obama wins. Few will watch.

Posted by: wpost4112 | October 7, 2008 8:30 AM | Report abuse

Are you better off than you were eight years ago?

GAS Prices January 19, 2001: $1.45/Gallon
GAS Prices October 6, 2008: $ 3.89/Gallon

DOW January 19, 2001: 10,587.59
DOW October 6, 2008: 9,955.50

NASDAQ Jan 19, 2001: 2770.38
NASDAQ October 6, 2008: 1862.96

CPI, January 19, 2001: 175
CPI, September, 2008: 315

Dollar exchange with Euro, Jan. 19, 2001: 1.068
Dollar exchange with Euro, October 6, 2008: .733

Are you better off than you were eight years ago?
Better yet, are you ready for another four years same as last eight?

Posted by: KaneMan | October 7, 2008 8:29 AM | Report abuse

Are you better off than you were eight years ago?

GAS Prices January 19, 2001: $1.45/Gallon
GAS Prices October 6, 2008: $ 3.89/Gallon

DOW January 19, 2001: 10,587.59
DOW October 6, 2008: 9,955.50

NASDAQ Jan 19, 2001: 2770.38
NASDAQ October 6, 2008: 1862.96

CPI, January 19, 2001: 175
CPI, September, 2008: 315

Dollar exchange with Euro, Jan. 19, 2001: 1.068
Dollar exchange with Euro, October 6, 2008: .733

Are you better off than you were eight years ago?
Better yet, are you ready for another four years same as last eight?

Posted by: KaneMan | October 7, 2008 8:29 AM | Report abuse

Are you better off than you were eight years ago?

GAS Prices January 19, 2001: $1.45/Gallon
GAS Prices October 6, 2008: $ 3.89/Gallon

DOW January 19, 2001: 10,587.59
DOW October 6, 2008: 9,955.50

NASDAQ Jan 19, 2001: 2770.38
NASDAQ October 6, 2008: 1862.96

CPI, January 19, 2001: 175
CPI, September, 2008: 315

Dollar exchange with Euro, Jan. 19, 2001: 1.068
Dollar exchange with Euro, October 6, 2008: .733

Are you better off than you were eight years ago?
Better yet, are you ready for another four years same as last eight?

Posted by: KaneMan | October 7, 2008 8:29 AM | Report abuse

Gotchas and scare lines about Ayers etc. won't work well tonight. The state of the economy will make them seem unserious and unleaderly. Advantage Obama.

Posted by: farstriker | October 7, 2008 8:29 AM | Report abuse

Are you better off than you were eight years ago?

GAS Prices January 19, 2001: $1.45/Gallon
GAS Prices October 6, 2008: $ 3.89/Gallon

DOW January 19, 2001: 10,587.59
DOW October 6, 2008: 9,955.50

NASDAQ Jan 19, 2001: 2770.38
NASDAQ October 6, 2008: 1862.96

CPI, January 19, 2001: 175
CPI, September, 2008: 315

Dollar exchange with Euro, Jan. 19, 2001: 1.068
Dollar exchange with Euro, October 6, 2008: .733

Are you better off than you were eight years ago?
Better yet, are you ready for another four years same as last eight?

Posted by: KaneMan | October 7, 2008 8:29 AM | Report abuse

Gotchas and scare lines about Ayers etc. won't work well tonight. The state of the economy will make them seem unserious and unleaderly. Advantage Obama.

Posted by: farstriker | October 7, 2008 8:29 AM | Report abuse

Barak has a history of "gliding" through elections- winning by default- he won the state senate when most opponents were eliminated, his senate rival dropped out because of a sex scandal and was replaced by Alan Keyes (anyone could beat Alan Keyes in an election) and he never put HRC away- just outlasted her as his advocates had started an early campaign to make her look like she was clinging- so there was no where for her to go in June. This is his opportunity to change that. A win here would put the election away.

Let's hope he can muster what ever it takes to win tonight.

Leon

Posted by: nycLeon | October 7, 2008 8:28 AM | Report abuse

It's the economy. Obama wins. Few will watch.

Posted by: wpost4112 | October 7, 2008 8:28 AM | Report abuse

Are you better off than you were eight years ago?

GAS Prices January 19, 2001: $1.45/Gallon
GAS Prices October 6, 2008: $ 3.89/Gallon

DOW January 19, 2001: 10,587.59
DOW October 6, 2008: 9,955.50

NASDAQ Jan 19, 2001: 2770.38
NASDAQ October 6, 2008: 1862.96

CPI, January 19, 2001: 175
CPI, September, 2008: 315

Dollar exchange with Euro, Jan. 19, 2001: 1.068
Dollar exchange with Euro, October 6, 2008: .733

Are you better off than you were eight years ago?
Better yet, are you ready for another four years same as last eight?

Posted by: KaneMan | October 7, 2008 8:26 AM | Report abuse

No follow-up's gives McCain his biggest advantage yet. He can basically trash Obama as much as he wants without anyone interceding and forcing him to fully explain himself.

http://www.political-buzz.com/

Posted by: parkerfl1 | October 7, 2008 8:26 AM | Report abuse

It's the economy. Obama wins. Few will watch.

Posted by: wpost4112 | October 7, 2008 8:25 AM | Report abuse

No follow-up's gives McCain his biggest advantage yet. He can basically trash Obama as much as he wants without anyone interceding and forcing him to fully explain himself.

http://www.political-buzz.com/

Posted by: parkerfl1 | October 7, 2008 8:23 AM | Report abuse

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