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Reaching Out To Rush?

UPDATE, 6:35 pm: The Romney campaign is sending around an email highlighting one particular passage from Limbaugh's show today. Here it is:

"I think right now Romney probably -- as the campaign has coalesced and as the campaign has progressing on down the highway -- I think the one candidate of the three still out there on our side ... in saying who more closely embodies all three legs of this conservative stool, you'd have to say that it's Mitt Romney. There's actually no choice in the matter. It certainly isn't Senator McCain."

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Sen. John McCain has generally avoided offering any comment on conservative talk radio host Rush Limbaugh's daily diatribes describing the Arizona Republican as not sufficiently conservative to carry the party's mantle in the fall.

But, the campaign moments ago sent out a letter written by former Senate Majority Leader Bob Dole (R-Kans.) to Limbaugh that aims to rebut the idea that McCain is not conservative enough to represent the Republican party as its nominee.

"I have not seen you in a long time but I do hear you frequently and I know that you have serious reservations about Senator McCain," wrote Dole, who remains neutral in the race. He added that in more than a decade in the Senate leadership he could not remember "a single instance when [McCain] did not support the Party on critical votes."

Dole's letter then rattled off a laundry list of red-meat for conservative Republicans, from McCain's "consistent pro-life record" to his profile as a "strong advocate for strict constructionist judges," adding: "We were misled on the Souter nomination."

On immigration, Dole pointed out that a bill pushed by President Reagan that "granted amnesty to 2.7 million illegals" passed the Senate overwhelmingly and was "not much different than the 2007 McCain, Kennedy, Bush effort."

The former Kansas Senator noted that he and McCain part ways on campaign finance reform legislation that bore the name of the Arizona Senator and that Dole objected to McCain's initial vote against the Bush tax cuts.

In total, however, concluded Dole: "I believe our major candidates are mainstream conservatives and that our nominee will address our concerns by keeping taxes low, reducing corporate taxes, protecting and assisting the vulnerable, strengthening our traditional values, and above all, keeping America strong militarily, whatever the cost."

Dole throws out another sop to Limbaugh before closing the letter. "Whoever wins the Republican nomination will need your enthusiastic support," Dole wrote. "Two terms for the Clintons are enough."

McCain's campaign did not respond to an email request for comments on the letter.

Dole's letter won't change Limbaugh's mind about McCain but that's not the goal. Instead, the aim of a letter like this one is to lower the volume of rhetoric in hopes that the two warring factions can find some common ground at some point.

If McCain winds up with a clear win in tomorrow's Super Tuesday voting -- as looks increasingly likely if you examine the polling both nationally and in Feb. 5 states -- Dole (and other party graybeards) are hoping that the much-discussed schism within the party can be healed by uniting around a common enemy: the Clintons. (No word on what the party would do if Clinton was not the Democratic nominee.)

Establishment Republicans are mindful of the dangers of a fracture between the moderate and conservative wings of the party. They need look no further than Kansas -- where Gov. Kathleen Sebelius (D) has been elected and re-elected thanks to a fracture within the base of the GOP -- to see the deleterious effects of an inability to find common ground.

Make no mistake: Rush Limbaugh (and Sean Hannity, Laura Ingraham etc.) are a very powerful voice within the Republican party. Conservatives watch and listen to them daily and often take their marching orders directly from the mouths of these hosts.

McCain is well aware of the power and peril that an ongoing feud with Limbaugh et al. represents.The Dole letter -- coupled with McCain's latest ad -- may be the first of a number of outreach attempts to heal any wounds within the party as quickly as possible.

By Chris Cillizza  |  February 4, 2008; 6:48 PM ET
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Posted by: ykmu brqphgjla | April 16, 2008 11:28 AM | Report abuse

I pray that when one of the legs of the stool falls free this November, that it is used to sodomize Rush with it. ASS no other is more deserving (possibly excepting Coulter) ASS Rush and his diatribe on ANAL POISONINGS.

Posted by: paiaso | February 5, 2008 4:03 PM | Report abuse

I pray that when one of the legs of the stool falls free this November, that it is used to sodomize Rush with it. ASS no other is more deserving (possibly excepting Coulter) ASS Rush and his diatribe on ANAL POISONINGS.

Posted by: paiaso | February 5, 2008 4:01 PM | Report abuse

Lush Bimbo IMPORTANT? The cigar-chomping, weight scales-abusing, self-imp-ortant bad joke on America is important ONLY to his vitriolic little band of brain-challenged ditto heads and other semi-human members of the far right lunatic fringe...no one with the capability of rational thought...and I see that it seems we have a few of his faithful troglodytes in attendence, here!

I'm actually sorry that the Republican Party and its so-called conservative base is SO perverted by such ideological betrayal...we function best as a loyally antagonistic two-party system of differing but HONEST ideoligies. It saddens me that anyone would even think of placing such importance in people so ignorant of and traiterous to ideological conservativism...an intellectual approach to governance with MUCH to recommend it. But that is NOT what the Limbaughs, Coulters, Hannitys, O'Reillys, Becks and Ingrahams practice...their's is a deliberately false conservatism, one grounded in control and power rather than principle, in dishonesty and threats rather than ideas...and, ultimately, in a furious contempt for anyone who dares to disagree with them...a contempt that they ALSO shower disdainfully on their own willing acolytes! You poor, deluded followers may not realize how badly you are being gulled...but THEY do! And they laugh at how stupid and easily led you are.

Posted by: PETETENNEY | February 5, 2008 3:56 PM | Report abuse

From today's Daily Standard.... I couldn't resist:
Conspiracy of What?
The plot to elect McCain.
by Noemie Emery
2/5/2008

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/014/702biuki.asp?pg=2

Posted by: jane.lockhart | February 5, 2008 1:46 PM | Report abuse

mark_in_austin,
Interesting Cooper story. I wonder, however, if it could also have been written from the POV of HRC showing courage for sticking to her principles and using hardball politics to do this. I don't think that the Clinton's are anything less than ruthless and full of ego but WJC's tenure as president suggests that, he at least, was willing and able to work with others (welfare reform/don't ask, don't tell, budget balancing, etc) (on a legislative basis anyways...)

Posted by: dave | February 5, 2008 10:54 AM | Report abuse

"Conservative stool" indeed.

Posted by: fan1 | February 5, 2008 10:22 AM | Report abuse

The funny thing about this is that Romney has as much of a history of working across the aisle as McCain does. And he's been on the "wrong" side of the "moral issues" almost every time, whereas McCain has not. So what's going one here?

Maybe... payola?

I've suspected for years that these hosts are getting a little something extra for always towing the White House line. Don't know whether it's just interviews and behind-the-scenes access, or a second paycheck. But something's wrong with this picture. What else would explain all of these talkers marching in lockstep with the WH, even when voters in some very conservative areas (like SC) are not?

Posted by: wpost7 | February 5, 2008 9:24 AM | Report abuse

Sen. Barack Obama has erased Sen. Hillary Clinton's lead among Democrats nationally, according to a CNN/Opinion Research Corp. poll out Monday. The two are in a virtual tie, with Obama at 49 percent and Clinton at 46 percent.

The survey represents a dramatic turnaround in the race from a few months ago when Clinton had a significant edge over Obama.

With 1681 delegates up for grab, what Candidate do you believe will accumulate the most delegates on Super Tuesday?

http://www.youpolls.com/details.asp?pid=1693


.

Posted by: PollM | February 5, 2008 8:48 AM | Report abuse

For Rush, it's all about one thing: Tax cuts at all costs. If he doesn't get behind McCain, I think he starts to lose his listenership, many of whom care just as much about abortion (on which McCain has been consistently pro-life) and military leadership (for which McCain is clearly most qualified). 95% of conservativies are going to recognize there's clearlya difference between Hillary and McCain on those issues--and many more.

Posted by: edwardlahoa | February 5, 2008 8:44 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: mark_in_austin | February 5, 2008 8:42 AM | Report abuse

If Limbaugh, Hannity and other wingers were smart (and iffy premise, to be sure), they'd get behind McCain and offer him up as a sacrificial lamb (as Dole was in 1996) to what appears to be a Democratic year and save a younger, more promising candidate for 2012 or '16. Jesus himself couldn't get elected president as a Republican in November, so has that party fallen out of favor with the electorate.

Posted by: mocrash | February 5, 2008 6:44 AM | Report abuse

I'm not impressed with any of the GOP candidates. Too bad Arnold is prohibited by law from running - he would have been their best chance of retaining the White House.

After learning that McCain's nickname in school was McNasty because he liked to get into fights, it's no wonder he backed the surge in Iraq and envisions us being there another 100 years. After learning that he graduated 790 in his class of 795 midshipmen, not because of lack of ability but because of choice - he only did well in classes that he liked (History and Literature) and did only what he needed to do in other classes to get by, like math, I have doubts that he will pay serious attention to all the problems that face our nation. If he doesn't like an issue that we're facing will he give it the same kind of attention he did as when he was at the Naval Academy?

Posted by: Nevadaandy | February 5, 2008 2:41 AM | Report abuse

Grog29 wrote:
"Can someone tell me how this Washington Post blogger got a copy of Dole's letter to Rush? I'm quite sure Rush wouldn't have sent it to this blogger."

Grog,

It's rather simple. It's called an 'open letter' where the original is sent to someone, and copies are released to the press. It's done all the time in all sorts of situations, such as politics, business, advertisements, diplomacy, etc., etc.

Now go back to drinking your ditto-head grog. You'll probably need the hang-over after the November election.

Posted by: critter69 | February 5, 2008 2:23 AM | Report abuse

to the guy who wrote:
"RUSH REMINDS ME MOST OF JOSEPH GOEBBELS."
I would guess if the people who listen to Rush actually knew anything about Goebbels they wouldnt be listening to Rush. Also I read several articles about this Rush BS. No one seems to be mentioning Mitts Company Bain Capital and their connection to Clear Channel and Premier Networks, according to Wikipedia Bain (Mitt) owns most of it. If you keep repeating how good something is a certain amount of people will beleive , regardless how stupid. Can you imagine what the Repubs would say if the Dems had a dopehead spokesman on 600 plus stations three hours a day, plus hannity , plus savage, plus orieelly, plus, reagan. They would be screaming that there was a librul bias in the media. Wait,, thats what they are saying . Look how many are buying it Goebbels would be laughing at them. They used to call it propganda, now its talk radio

Posted by: waawaazaire | February 5, 2008 2:20 AM | Report abuse

Twenty-four hours before votes are counted in the Missouri Republican Primary, John McCain and Mike Huckabee are statistically tied, according to Survey USA's final pre-primary tracking poll. At the wire, it's McCain 33%, Huckabee 31%, and Mitt Romney 28%. Compared to an identical Survey USA poll released 72 hours ago, McCain is flat, and Huckabee may have slight momentum. Among pro-life voters, Huckabee leads Romney by 12.

Journalists who've repeatedly reported that Governor Huckabee is only running for vice president ought to explain how they claim to know that. Governor Huckabee says he's still running to win, so they're effectively calling him a liar.

Maybe it's the other way around.

Posted by: Kurt_Evans | February 5, 2008 1:55 AM | Report abuse

Why were the comments I tried to post yesterday rejected?

Posted by: Kurt_Evans | February 5, 2008 1:32 AM | Report abuse

To Whom It May Concern:

In response to Bill Clinton's recent comments about the infamous D-Punjab memo, it may be appropriate to note Hillary's history of racist comments towards Indian Americans. Here is a 22 second segment posted on YOUTUBE of Hillary speaking about 'Indian's and gas station wisdom' on CNN.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDHbHcOV1N4

Ryan

Posted by: Rssblaxep05 | February 5, 2008 12:48 AM | Report abuse

To Whom It May Concern:

In response to Bill Clinton's recent comments about the infamous D-Punjab memo, it may be appropriate to note Hillary's history of racist comments towards Indian Americans. Here is a 22 second segment posted on YOUTUBE of Hillary speaking about 'Indian's and gas station wisdom' on CNN.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDHbHcOV1N4

Ryan

Posted by: Rssblaxep05 | February 5, 2008 12:47 AM | Report abuse

Limbaugh should ask what kind of conservative has his third round of tax increases blocked by a Democratic legislature? What kind of conservative raises taxes by some $377 million per year, according to a recent Massachusetts newspaper article? What kind of conservative in late 2005 would call the McCain-Kennedy immigration reform bill a "reasonable plan" and defend it against charges it was "amnesty"?

Romney had a solid record as a moderate Republican and if he had run on his moderate record could have been a very viable contender for the GOP nomination. However if conservatives can't tell a phony from the real thing, we in New England can: Romney's a phony conservative, as two major newspapers in New Hampshire said at the beginning of January with their "anti-endorsements".

Posted by: chrisbak52 | February 5, 2008 12:02 AM | Report abuse

There have been less than six degrees of separation between Limbaugh and the Republican's richest candidate since Mitt Romney's former partners at Bain Capital took over Clear Channel Communications, owner of 1,000 radio stations and home to Limbaugh, thereby becoming his bosses and the source of his income.

Blind trusts insulate Romney from any direct connection, but it's hard to imagine what the Javerts of Whitewater would have made of it if the Clintons were this closely tied to a mass media empire and its chief talk show host suddenly became a big fan of Hillary:

http://ajliebling.blogspot.com/2007/12/romney-rush-limbaugh-connection.html

Posted by: connectdots | February 4, 2008 11:59 PM | Report abuse

I didn't realize that anyone would actually follow the advice of rush limbaugh or any other political gasbag for that matter. I always thought that they were for pure entertainment value only. Why would the Republican party have limbaugh or hannity define conservatism. I did not know that they ran the RNC. Look at the primary results by state so far, have any of these gasbags been right even half the time so far in their views or predictions? The politics of Bush and the far right fringe are dead. Rush needs to be on late night cable to keep Chuck Norris company and they can read each others bad scripts.

It will not matter if Clinton or Obama wins the Democratic nomination at this point. The electorate does not want four more years of Bush/Cheney/Rove style leadership or politics from any candidate or party. Any candidate that has not turned the corner but is still living in 2004 better wake up and smell the coffee. None of the Republicans with the possible exception of McCain can see this.

Posted by: steve.hunter | February 4, 2008 11:56 PM | Report abuse

It is disheartening to see someone of Sen. Dole's stature allow such an appeasing letter to a talk show host to appear in public over his signature.

I respect Rush Limbaugh's skills, as an entertainer and a spokesman for his show's sponsors, but these are the only things he is. Public officials gain nothing by trying to appease people like this in public. If some Republican politician had to do this with Limbaugh I would have preferred it be one of the parties lesser lights, like Domenici or Cochran or maybe George Pataki, rather than a former GOP Presidential candidate and a man of genuine accomplishments in the public service.

Posted by: jbritt3 | February 4, 2008 10:58 PM | Report abuse

Ironic, considering McCain will end up being the Dole of 2008.

Obama/Biden '08!

Posted by: soonerthought | February 4, 2008 10:43 PM | Report abuse

The Amnesty for Illegal Aliens sponsored by Ted Kennedy as well as the majority of Democrats with their little clerk RINOS John McCain, Lindsey Graham, and Spector will prevent ANY of them (including McCain) from ever becoming President. Lindsey Graham will never be a Supreme Court Justice.
He'll be lucky to retain his seat in November.

Romney will have some surprises for the MSM tomorrow night.

Posted by: Grog29 | February 4, 2008 10:37 PM | Report abuse

claudialong,
As someone who is so well versed in the sponsors of the Rush Limbaugh show, I should think that you would know how the term came about. Although I rarely listen to him, even I know the genesis. As Wiki states:

'As Limbaugh often explains in his books and radio show, these are not necessarily those who agree with his views. Rather, he believes they are people who love the show and what he's doing, and hope he never stops doing it. The term came into use because callers would frequently begin by giving praise and thanks to Limbaugh. Knowing that the caller's and listener's time is valuable, one caller simply said roughly "ditto to what those guys said (how much they enjoyed the show)." Thereafter, callers were encouraged to simply say, "Dittos," and then get right to their point. Thus, long-time listeners would begin their calls with "Dittos, Rush," leading to the term "dittoheads." '

Posted by: dave | February 4, 2008 10:31 PM | Report abuse

'The Dittoheads can discern the difference between entertainment, news, opinion and conservative principles. They're a sophisticated group, they are.'


really?? then why do they call themselves 'dittoheads'?

Posted by: drindl | February 4, 2008 10:03 PM | Report abuse

pbingham1,
The Dittoheads can discern the difference between entertainment, news, opinion and conservative principles. They're a sophisticated group, they are.

Posted by: dave | February 4, 2008 9:55 PM | Report abuse

Needing Rush is like needing aids. Yes, very like needing aids considering Rush's personal behavior. Amazing that Romney would accept the push from someone like Rush with his very suspect moral behavior. I guess one has to make deals with the devil in these circumstances. But remember, it seems Rush has little interest in even winning this election. What he wants is someone he thinks owes him a bunch for his support so he can control them with his hateful diatribes. Remember, this guy consistently was a rah-rah team for this Bush administration so how much credibility does he have. After all, Rush has Never said a word about Bush's shortcomings. Republican's chances of controlling the White House for years to come are the result. Rush has no interest in our party, he simply pouts when he cannot be the king maker. So I say, "You go Mr. McCain. The thinking folks understand your influence in the long awaited success in Iraq with your push for the surge.

Posted by: mari2JJ | February 4, 2008 9:53 PM | Report abuse

The Rebublicans must really be hurting if they have to get in bed with a slime ball like limburger. The day a political party has to cater to an idiot of this ilk to pander for vote's, should tell you that party is seriously lacking in common sense and ability to rationaly govern this country.

Bob Dole's comment about Clinton was a little foolish since the majority of America prefered Clinton over him and showed it the votes.

Posted by: 1ken | February 4, 2008 9:52 PM | Report abuse

This "reaching out" to MCain just shows that he and his lobbyists
are getting nervous. Polls are tightening everywhere. MSM moguls are also starting to worry that their little scheme to pick the GOP candidate with the help of the Huckster is about to collapse.

Posted by: Grog29 | February 4, 2008 9:37 PM | Report abuse

Dave,

I appreciate your comments and your family history....Many of us, D's and R's, share the same.

But the fact is that Limbaugh embodies all that is non-thinking and non-rational. Indeed, I remember quite clearly, hearing him blow on a year or so ago, telling his listeners, and I quote, "Don't bother to understand this...its complicated, its MY job to tell you what all this means"

That statement tells me all I need to know, about him and his "audience" of "dittoheads"...

Posted by: pbingham1 | February 4, 2008 9:36 PM | Report abuse

There's no use getting to the top if you can't take your integrity with you.

It's really sad that the candidate who will win is one who can stop trying to suck up to Rush (yes, even in the primary) - but will he? He doesn't have to be rude to him, but he can appeal to the people. Huckabee did that with the Christian Right, right over the heads of the bloated self-appointed popes acting like they know better with all their money what Jesus would want. Obama did that with Sharpton, right over the heads of the self-appointed leaders waiting to be rewarded handsomely for delivering the "black" vote. Both success stories of pulling the votes directly out of the people without "permission". But now McCain, who's been beaten on by all of talk radio and fox news for the longest time, is ahead (and not just independents, as Florida will show) not because they support him but because THEY HATE HIM - and he can't learn the same lesson? Why is Rush the leader of the conservatives? Can't anyone think for themselves? Well, much to the dismay of a small few, YES. THEY CAN.

This is a new generation of information. You're doing well, McCain. The reason you're doing so well scares Rush to death. Don't let anyone tell you what to think.

Posted by: grimmix | February 4, 2008 9:31 PM | Report abuse

Can someone tell me how this Washington Post blogger got a copy of Dole's letter to Rush? I'm quite sure Rush wouldn't have sent it
to this blogger. By the way, Dole's argument that "Reagan push an amnesty bill for 2.7 million illegals" is alot like McCain's amnesty
is a ridiculous argument. So this time let's make the same mistake with 10 times as many illegal aliens??? I think we "learned" from Reagan's mistake and we don't want to repeat it 10 fold!

Posted by: Grog29 | February 4, 2008 9:30 PM | Report abuse

CC - "Conservatives watch and listen to them daily and often take their marching orders directly from the mouths of these hosts."

This is arguably the most insulting and condescending statement that you have written in the time I have participated on this blog. You could have just called me a sheep and been done with it. The fact of the matter is that I was conservative long before Hannity appeared on TV and before I ever heard of Limbaugh. I grew up with the lessons of personal responsibility, relying on myself, my family, friends, neighbors, church and community for help and support instead of the government. Likewise, I believed that I had a responsibility to help and support them also. Ever since I can remember, I have believed that I knew what to do with my money better than the Feds when it came to making things better for my family and community and country. While I maintained that smaller government was better government, I always believed that we should maintain the most superior military in the world. From my dad's work, I knew that the the USSR was evil - not just different, and that we need to be a beacon of freedom and liberty to the world. I was anti-communist since the day I could pronounce it. I believed in and recognized the potential of free market forces and capitalism when I was able to make a pretty good living cutting grass and shoveling snow as a kid. Ann Coulter did not enlighten me to the fact that the country under Carter was miserable - I lived through it and remember it. Nor did Ann instill in me the evilness of abortion, it was seeing sonagrams of 10 week old fetus' in health class in high school and thinking that they look remarkably like little people.

Despite the fact that I watch Fox occasionally and listen to talk radio once in a while, one could argue that i got my "marching orders" from my parents, but it's much more likely I watched how they lived and learned a lot of life lessons from them as well as the world around me. I expect this sort of ignorance from many on this blog. From you, i expect more.

Posted by: dave | February 4, 2008 9:21 PM | Report abuse

'God help us, when the Limbaughs,Ingrams and Hannitys influence our electoral outcomes.
Have Americans gone over the top?'

The fact that the republican party, in the name of Mccain, is 'reaching out' to these vicious haters, these drug addicts and perverts and extremists, makes me more determined not to vote for Mccain-it's just makes me too sick.

'Who advertises on Rush? Geritol? Ovaltine? Hooked on Phonics?'

Actually, snake oil cures for baldness, erectile dysfunctional, phony diets and 'cures' and get-rich-quick schemes. In other words, society's losers. I'm truy sorry to see McCain beg this trailer trash for votes.


Posted by: drindl | February 4, 2008 8:54 PM | Report abuse

"...Conservatives watch and listen to them daily and often take their marching orders directly from the mouths of these hosts."

How can you claim to be a conservative and take your marching orders from a thrice-divorced Oxycontin abuser?

Posted by: Bob22003 | February 4, 2008 8:32 PM | Report abuse

Imagine if Michael Moore represented the "keeper of the flame" of Democratic ideology. Maybe that can give Republicans and conservatives an understanding of the extent to which the prominence of a blow-hard like Rush impugns their political philosophy.

Here's irony for you -- if Rush had actually seen his blow-hard positions enacted, he'd be in jail for life with no possibility of parole. So perhaps he should be a little more thankful for the forces out there that moderate the outrage he stokes through the very kinds of distortions he claims to divine in all other forms of media.

Posted by: starthom | February 4, 2008 8:17 PM | Report abuse

RUSH REMINDS ME MOST OF JOSEPH GOEBBELS.

Posted by: ravitchn | February 4, 2008 8:10 PM | Report abuse

Rush is a weak man. Those who listen to him are weak too.

Posted by: martiniano | February 4, 2008 8:09 PM | Report abuse

"...Conservatives watch and listen to them daily and often take their marching orders directly from the mouths of these hosts."

Puh-leeze. If that were true would McCain be so far in front of Romney et al? McCain has a barely concealed distain for Limbaugh, Hannity and their ilk. That's bad news for their ratings and "power" (if you can call it that" with McCain in the White House.

Fox News was basically an extension of the Guiliani campaign and how did that work out?

And I couldn't agree more with "thecrisis's" comment re: Limbaugh being a slovenly, hypocritical moron although I would add that he's a three times divorced, recovering drug addict. A sad commentary on the U.S. that so many people pay attention to him at all.

Posted by: stevetunley | February 4, 2008 8:00 PM | Report abuse

Anyone know who actually listens to Rush? He's on during the middle of the day, so anyone listening must not have a job, or at least one that's minimally intellectually demanding. Who advertises on Rush? Geritol? Ovaltine? Hooked on Phonics?

Posted by: novamatt | February 4, 2008 7:55 PM | Report abuse


clark wrote:
"I am continually astounded that you folks pay any attention to Rush Limbaugh. His days of abusing the concept of 'thinking conservatives' is over. The Republican Party is taking their ideology back from the fringe right."

You said it. Limbaugh is a syncophantic, GOP-butt kissing law-breaker whose personal life is downright creepy. That any thoughtful conservative would look up to this morally bankrupt hypocrite is beyond me.
And kingofzouk: You really sound incredibly stupid -- please pull your head out of the sand and post something requiring some rational thought. Your posts are pathetic.

Posted by: vegasgirl1 | February 4, 2008 7:51 PM | Report abuse

Rush is a slovenly, hypocritical moron and should be wholly ignored by the general public. Why so many people think he's worth listening to is beyond me.

Posted by: thecrisis | February 4, 2008 7:33 PM | Report abuse

First of all, it makes no difference who the Republican nominee is beause no Republican can win in '08. The evangelicals will not vote for a Mormon and the conservatives will not vote for McCain. No motivation (anti-gay, anti-abortion, anti-big spenders?), no turnout. No Republican in the WH.

Second, until a major Republican publicly stands up to extreme right-wing blow-hards like Limpbaugh et al., the party will remain marginalized for a generation. The disaster we're in now hangs around the neck of the Republican party because of the support, by these screamers, for Bush's policies. Keep screaming yourselves into irrelevancy!

Posted by: thebobbob | February 4, 2008 7:32 PM | Report abuse

White House Budget Request
Expects Near-Record Deficit
Economy Faces 'Significant Headwinds'
By HENRY J. PULIZZI
February 4, 2008 5:41 p.m.

WASHINGTON -- The federal budget deficit will soar to near-record levels in fiscal 2008 and 2009, the Bush administration said Monday in its $3.1 trillion budget request, a surge in red ink attributable to cooling corporate tax receipts and the cost of a short-term economic stimulus package.

The White House expects the deficit to reach $410 billion in the current fiscal year, just short of the record set four years ago. In fiscal 2009, which begins in October, the budget gap is seen at $407 billion. As a percentage of gross domestic product, the deficit would be 2.9% in fiscal 2008 and 2.7% the following year.

50+ million Idiots voted for this War Criminal, some Idiots did it twice. These are the Twits that should be paying for these Illegal Invasions. Keep up the good work, Cons!!!

Indict the Killer in Chief and the VP of Torture.

http://www.un.org/law/icc/statute/99_corr/2.htm
Crimes within the jurisdiction of the Court

Posted by: mawt | February 4, 2008 7:14 PM | Report abuse

"BEGIN TRANSCRIPT


RUSH: This is Saturday in Tulsa, Oklahoma, and we move on to Governor Huckabee now. He held a press conference, unidentified reporter said, "Governor Huckabee, why are these conservative leaders going to Governor Romney's camp and not Senator McCain's?"

HUCKABEE: Some suggest that the fact that Bain Capital owns a major stake in Clear Channel is on Sean's network, that maybe there's a correlation. I don't know.

RUSH: Whew. Now, I happen to know something about this. This is just embarrassing. (laughing) It's shocking. There's so much ignorance, or if he knows that he's not telling the truth here, it's bold. But he was asked by an unidentified reporter why conservative leaders are going to Romney and not Senator McCain.

HUCKABEE: Some suggest that the fact that Bain Capital owns a major stake in Clear Channel and is on Sean's network, that maybe there's a correlation. I don't know.

RUSH: Bain Capital is the group, the financial group partially cofounded by Mitt Romney. He has had to divest himself from Bain Capital. Bain Capital does not own a major stake in Clear Channel, not yet. Bain Capital and Thomas Lee Partners have entered into a deal to purchase Clear Channel and take it private, but it hasn't been approved. It requires a bunch of approval. It hasn't been done. And furthermore, Sean Hannity is not a contractual partner with Clear Channel anyway. Clear Channel, some of their stations carry Sean's show. There's nothing accurate about this. This is a left-wing conspiracy. Huckabee has picked this up from a left-wing -- if you go to the right left-wing kook websites, they're trying to trash Romney by saying he's secretly buying Clear Channel, and Clear Channel is the partner of Rush Limbaugh, and that means that there's an unholy alliance between Romney and Rush Limbaugh. Well, Romney's not with Bain Capital, Bain Capital does not own Clear Channel yet, has nothing to say about how Clear Channel is running itself, and Hannity is nowhere to be found in the equation in any which way, matter, or form, other than his show is carried on some Clear Channel radio stations. (interruption) It's totally believable, Snerdley. What do you mean, unbelievable? It's totally believable.

"

HAHHAHHAHA. this is very satifying to me personally after the last decade of these people. What do they say about a short trip up but a long tumble down. We are watching it. And boy is it satisfying. We get our country back in 09. Oh happy day

Posted by: JKrishnamurti | February 4, 2008 7:13 PM | Report abuse

Everyone who listens to talk radio do not subscribe to the BS. It is entertainment. Look at the polls and their track record. The followers of Rush et al correctly call themselves "Doo-Doo heads". They are imploding all over the place. Carefull the BS might splatter on you.

Posted by: alvin12 | February 4, 2008 7:01 PM | Report abuse

God help us, when the Limbaughs,Ingrams and Hannitys influence our electoral outcomes.
Have Americans gone over the top?
http://www.reflectivepundit.com/

Posted by: bn1123 | February 4, 2008 6:57 PM | Report abuse

Dole is a decent and respectable man who has served his country well. I respect his opinion, and he makes some valid arguments for reconciliation with McCain, the Liberal. There really are quite a few Democrats more conservative than John McCain.

Dole is, however considerably left of center himself compared to Ronald Reagan. To his credit, Dole never left the reservation and set up camp with the enemy like McCain and his gang of 14.

Dole actually had public policy objectives and would speak about them willingly during his campaigns whereas McCain avoids questions of substance and pretends to take a higher road filled with fluff.

McCain, when he does actually approach topics of substance, promotes ideas in his campaign that he claims to believe in, yet his years of votes in the Senate contradict his campaign positions of the moment.

I know the media loves McCain. He's just like them. Inexplicably driven for the power of politics and the limelight of the public life, McCain's popularity becomes self fulfilling to the detriment of the Republican party base.

I have over 2000 contacts in my contact list and all but a few agree with me... If McCain wins the Republican nomination, we will all vote for either Obama, or stay home on election night.

All of the Huckabee supporters who would rather have Mitt Romney than Obama had better cut your losses and vote for Mitt Romney on Super Tuesday, otherwise, a Democrat will be sworn in next year.

A vote for Huckabee on Super Tuesday is a vote for McCain... or Obama!

Posted by: StarsAndStripesForever | February 4, 2008 6:55 PM | Report abuse

Some howler monkey wrote:

McCain,s Amnesty plan for Illegal Aliens was a slap in the face for every American and people that want to immigrant to this Nation legally and believe in our constitution and rule of law.
==

Then why don't you vote for Tom Tancredo?

Oh, that's right, he had to drop out. Lack of support, lack of interest in his anti-immigrant campaign.

So where does that leave you?

Posted by: chrisfox8 | February 4, 2008 6:54 PM | Report abuse

The spokesmen of the conservative movement represent fewer and fewer people. Conservatives support McCain, which is fine with me, since they don't support him with much of any enthusiasm, and given his positions he's pretty much unelectable.

Posted by: chrisfox8 | February 4, 2008 6:52 PM | Report abuse

sorry Spectator2 . didn't mean to step on your toes. I like the dittoheads. Bring them all on here I say. The more they talk and express their small world the easier to dismantle their false illusion of reality. And save them in the process.

My problem with the dittoheads is they hide in their caves and don't allow reason to enter. If you venture into the gop blogeshpere you will see their fear. Fear of truth. Parrot rush or get banned. Who in that mindset has free speech? Rush? Fox got in on it.

It is a false illusion. We all have free speech. The left just has to pay heavy prices for our free speech. Death, loss of job, and so on. What does the right ever have to sacrafice. They get money to create a fake dream world. OOOOOOOOO. What a sacrafice the dittoheads pay. They get paid, they don't pay for anything they do. Everyone else does, including our troops

Posted by: JKrishnamurti | February 4, 2008 6:52 PM | Report abuse

I think that we'll find Limbaugh and his loud-mouth friends to be decidedly less vital to the campaign than the pundits think.

http://www.political-buzz.com/

Posted by: parkerfl | February 4, 2008 6:50 PM | Report abuse

Reagan didn't compromise with the lefties - he smashed them like bugs. Now we've got a bunch of girly men. McCain is an open border guy and his McCain-Feingold bill was perhaps the largest slap in the face to the First Amendment in history. No one wants Billary, but McCain makes me sick too.

Posted by: birvin9999 | February 4, 2008 6:50 PM | Report abuse

For all their patriotic talk and how the democrats/liberals are lemmings. What is a dittohead? What does that term infer?

Why would any free thinking american give their will to another. Obama may or may not represent me. Depends on the issue. I would never give my voice compleatly to him. That would enslave me. Obama represents me so I support him. If he strays to far I do not support him. either way I am free to make my own mind up.

What is a dittohead, and why do they give everything for nothing in return?

Posted by: JKrishnamurti | February 4, 2008 6:47 PM | Report abuse

The article is about rush and zouk is talking about clinton ted kenneddy and air america. you make it to easy zouk. you show your propogandist face with little effort.

People like you zouk, are the reason your party has zero credibility. You should look in the mirror. Maybe it's time to hang em up, as they say. You are hurting your party vastly, as are your masters fox rush and savage.

Like I said from my first day on this blog. What will you gop'ers do without your propogandists? How would you think for yourselves? How could you consolidate you r lies and propoganda? The question was asked months ago, if not years. Now we find out the answer.

I have told you how to join america again and stop the slide of your party. I want a two party system. If we go independant there would be so much change we wouldn't recognize america. I don't want that. But given the choice between a fascist police gop state that spys on all americans, capitalism that only serves the top the lack of an american justice system, you allowing illegal immagration for slave labor and on and on and on. The choice for boundless change, without garuntee's becomes more and more inticing.

What will you do without your propogandists, I asked. We find out soon enough. If you want someone to blame look in the mirror. I and those like me are not the cause of your irrelevance. You did it to yourselves. Stubborn, greed, hate, intolerance. The gop and their cult are not patritoc americans. They are red coat party loyalists. To rejoin american society you must put in the effort. Stop attacking those not exactly like you and get your lying propogandists tot he elderly off the air.

Until that day, zouk and those like him, you deserve the irrelevance you got. You must repent for teh last half decade. "Repent and you will be forgiven". Or keep doing what you do gop. But don't complain and cry. You made your bed. Now sleep.

Posted by: JKrishnamurti | February 4, 2008 6:44 PM | Report abuse

"Quite the contrary - it is Rush who takes his marching orders from the listeners. this whole ordeal goes to show that Repubs are thinking, reasoned and principled while the Dems squable about no differences but race and gender."

Right, right, that's why Rush calls himself a dittohead. What's that? It's the listeners who call themselves dittoheads? So that means zouk is wrong again? Ok, that makes sense.

Posted by: Spectator2 | February 4, 2008 6:44 PM | Report abuse

"Quite the contrary - it is Rush who takes his marching orders from the listeners. this whole ordeal goes to show that Repubs are thinking, reasoned and principled while the Dems squable about no differences but race and gender.

Posted by: kingofzouk | February 4, 2008 06:18 PM
"

Right. The republcain field shows that. GO RUDY, right zouk.

what is the gop without their lying propogandists. I know it's sacry gop. Better to start from scratch than to build on a foundation of lies spin propoganda and TREASON (supporting party over country)

Posted by: JKrishnamurti | February 4, 2008 6:29 PM | Report abuse

"Monday February 4, 2008 08:32 EST
Republicans have become the credibility-free party
(updated below)

Substantial attention has been paid to the historic unpopularity of the Bush presidency, but relatively little attention has been paid to the accompanying collapse of the Republican Party's credibility. The latest Washington Post/ABC News poll reveals that Americans trust Democrats more than Republicans to handle every issue of any significance, including -- by a now fairly wide margin -- "the U.S. campaign against terrorism":

From a purely political perspective, one would expect that Democrats would seek to highlight contrasts with such an unpopular and discredited party, not to emulate and capitulate to it. Republicans are distrusted across the board, and thus -- as the 2006 election demonstrated (in which Karl Rove made Terrorism-exploitation the campaign's centerpiece) -- the GOP's standard fear-mongering tactics and accusatory attacks are plainly impotent, even counter-productive.

Americans continue to turn against anything the Republicans touch. The most vivid example of that is public opinion on the Iraq War. Even with the press corps and Beltway elite insisting by consensus that the Glorious Surge has made everything so much better in Iraq -- we're finally winning! -- and even as we were endlessly told that the war was only unpopular because we were losing, Americans hate the Iraq War more than ever before. The poll asked:

All in all, considering the costs to the United States versus the benefits to the United States, do you think the war with Iraq was worth fighting, or not? Do you feel that way strongly or somewhat?
The results: only 34% believe it was worth fighting, a record low. A resounding 65% believe it was not worth fighting, and 53% believe that "strongly" -- both one point away from the record high. It simply doesn't matter how well things are going in Iraq: the vast (and still increasing) preponderance of Americans have concluded that the war was a stupid, wasteful thing to do and they will not change their minds, no matter how much happy news springs forth. GOP propaganda and Terrorism-exploitation now affect nothing.

Unsurprisingly, even as Congress has low approval ratings, it is Republicans in Congress who bear the brunt of that unpopularity, while Democrats in Congress remain marginally more popular:

But this is where the real lesson is to be found. The approval rating for Democrats in Congress has plummeted steadily since the American electorate gave them control of Congress in early 2007. Early on, ratings for Congressional Democrats were consistently near 50% as Americans had high hopes for their willingness to change the course of the country and place real limits on the deeply unpopular Republican policies. But as Congressional Democrats became more and more characterized by capitulation and an unwillingness to stand up to Republicans, their approval numbers steadily dropped to its current mark, just one point away from their lowest approval rating of the last 14 months.

The more willing Democrats are to stand up to Republicans and oppose their defining policies, the more popular they become. The less willing they are to do so, the more eager they are to erase distinctions and accommodate this deeply unpopular party, the more unpopular Democrats become. The empirical evidence for those propositions is close to indisputable. The profound rejection by the country of the Republican Party permits only one lesson: the country wants a party that opposes them, not resembles or fears them.

The Senate begins debate today on the various amendments to the FISA bill at 2:15 p.m. (I'll be on a plane when that happens, but FireDogLake and others will live-blog the proceedings). Impervious to these lessons, there will almost certainly be more than enough Senate Democrats eagerly lined up to ensure the failure of any amendments which Dick Cheney dislikes and which would trigger a veto. Those are Democrats who either believe in those policies or who are hopelessly stuck in 2002 and refuse to accept political reality.

But once the Senate votes for a bill containing telecom amnesty and the vast new warrantless eavesdropping powers demanded by the President, the battle will turn to the House, which ought to apply the lessons which become increasingly clear by looking at American public opinion. Merits aside, Americans want more than anything else to see someone -- anyone -- willing to chart a different course than the one we have been on for the last seven years, prominently including national security and Terrorism policies.

It's not just Bush, but the Republican Party itself, which has become politically radioactive. What rational politician would fear their discredited attacks or seek to do anything other than draw as many vivid distinctions as possible with the defining policies of the Republican Party?

UPDATE: Two unrelated notes as I prepare to leave today (I'll be in Las Vegas to give a speech and hopefully run into CNN's Virtues Czar Bill Bennett):

(1) Atrios is conducting a blog fund-raiser, his first in four years. Of all bloggers, the intensity and importance of the work he does is probably the most under-appreciated. It is incredibly time-consuming and difficult to wade through hundreds of blog posts (if not more) every day and consistently select the ones meriting attention. And he probably does more than any single person to shape and sustain the overall narrative that bloggers are able to promote. Any contributions to his blog is, in my view, one well worth making.

(2) The galleys for my next book, Great American Hypocrites: Toppling the Myths of Republican Politics, were sent out last week, and Alan Colmes, who received a copy, became the first to review the new book here. The book addresses the standard manipulative electoral techniques the GOP uses to win national elections -- with a focus on the fictitious personality-based mythologies and substance-free attacks which Republicans, in conjunction with our establishment press, perpetuate in order to dictate election outcomes. The last chapter will focus on how those myths apply to the 2008 GOP nominee. The book will be released on April 15, and I'd prefer that pre-ordering wait until the week before the release date.

-- Glenn Greenwald
"

Who is to balme for the gop's lack of accountability and credibility with the people? Bush? Rumsfiled? Cheaney? Or rush fox hanntiy savage? As a nondittohead clone, from the outside lokking in at the gop's downfall, I'm calling the propogandists

Posted by: JKrishnamurti | February 4, 2008 6:26 PM | Report abuse

some things you may not want to try:

1. ride home from a party with Ted Kennedy
2. go to the beach with Joren Van der sloot
3. start a liberal talk radio channel
4. cross the clintons
5. testify against the mob

they all pretty much get you dead.

Posted by: kingofzouk | February 4, 2008 6:26 PM | Report abuse

but then there is no liberal talk radio (except NPR) and no Liberal tv (that anyone watches except the so-called network "news" which masqurades as fact).

so the result is that Liberals simply vote D with no thought required. It doesn't matter for two reasons:
1. the candidates are identical on issues
2. they never win anyway.

Posted by: kingofzouk | February 4, 2008 6:22 PM | Report abuse

It is past time for someone to help McNut on the Senile express and pick up his friend and partner in Treason the well known Socialist, Drunk and Murdered Kennedy and head for the nearest old folks home for the Senile and the Demented!

Posted by: american1 | February 4, 2008 6:21 PM | Report abuse

McCain,s Amnesty plan for Illegal Aliens was a slap in the face for every American and people that want to immigrant to this Nation legally and believe in our constitution and rule of law. He wants to reward people for breaking into this Nation and committing Numerous crimes while slopping at the trough of public welfare and demanding more right than Americans citizens that have obeyed the Law, paid the taxes, fought the wars and built this Nation. While the uneducated Invaders cost on the average 22k per year in social benefits and more if they become citizens. All of this while Killing, Raping and robbing thousands of American Citizens every year!

Posted by: american1 | February 4, 2008 6:20 PM | Report abuse

"All the more reason to help drive a stake through the heart of the GOP by nominating McCain."

If the GOP nominates McCain & McCain loses the general election, who benefits in the GOP? Do Rush, et al, score big with a round of "I told you so's" or does someone like Gingrich step in & get the party to refocus on principles that might appeal to both conservatives & swing voters? Both? Something entirely different?

Posted by: bsimon | February 4, 2008 6:20 PM | Report abuse

I am continually astounded that you folks pay any attention to Rush Limbaugh. His days of abusing the concept of "thinking conservatives" is over. The Republican Party is taking their ideology back from the fringe right.
Ohg
http://thefiresidepost.com/2008/01/31/ohg-rea-tone-on-demise-of-rush-limbaugh/

Posted by: glclark4750 | February 4, 2008 6:20 PM | Report abuse

""...Conservatives watch and listen to them daily and often take their marching orders directly from the mouths of these hosts."

Scary but true."

Just look at the posts from the self-proclaimed conservatives on these boards.

Posted by: Spectator2 | February 4, 2008 6:19 PM | Report abuse

"Make no mistake: Rush Limbaugh (and Sean Hannity, Laura Ingraham etc.) are a very powerful voice within the Republican party. Conservatives watch and listen to them daily and often take their marching orders directly from the mouths of these hosts."

Quite the contrary - it is Rush who takes his marching orders from the listeners. this whole ordeal goes to show that Repubs are thinking, reasoned and principled while the Dems squable about no differences but race and gender.

Posted by: kingofzouk | February 4, 2008 6:18 PM | Report abuse

"...Conservatives watch and listen to them daily and often take their marching orders directly from the mouths of these hosts."

Scary but true. All the more reason to help drive a stake through the heart of the GOP by nominating McCain. Payback for the Bad Years (2001-2006) looms on the horizon.

Posted by: judgeccrater | February 4, 2008 6:17 PM | Report abuse

The problem with Rush, et al, is that they have the interests of the ideology ahead of the interests of the country. A politician like McCain, who is willing to compromise for the benefit of the country, is a threat to the power wielded by the conservative talking heads who make their money by incessently bashing everyone who doesn't follow their orthodoxy.

Posted by: bsimon | February 4, 2008 6:14 PM | Report abuse

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