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McCain Pushes "Obama as Risky" Message

Down in both national and battleground state polling, John McCain is up with a new ad that uses the words of Delaware Sen. Joe Biden to stoke voter fears about Barack Obama's readiness to assume the presidency next January.

Here's the ad:

The ads hits all the emotional touchstones: men with rifles marching through streets, a tank whirling its gun, battleships steaming, a child wiping her eyes and, for good measure, images of Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez and Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

Over these pictures are the words of Biden, the Democratic vice presidential nominee, insisting that, "it will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like it did John Kennedy," and predicting some sort of "international crisis."

"It doesn't have to happen," intones the ad's narrator at the end of the 30-second commercial. "Vote McCain."

Asked about the decision to launch the ad, McCain senior adviser Matt McDonald called Biden's comments a "mistake" and noted that Obama was forced to "clean up" his running mate's remarks himself.

"Some of the most revealing moments in a campaign are often unplanned," added McDonald. "We are going to take advantage of the fact that his running mate thinks Senator Obama will invite an international crisis."

At the heart of this ad is the idea that electing Obama is simply too much of a risk given the national and global challenges facing the country. It seeks to play off voters' fears and doubts about Obama's relatively thin résumé and how he will handle crises when they come.

This isn't the first time Republicans have gone down this road. The Republican National Committee is currently on television in battleground states with an ad that shows an empty chair in the Oval Office while a narrator says: "Barack Obama: He hasn't had executive experience. This crisis would be Obama's first crisis. In this chair."

Will this "risky" strategy work? Polling suggests it won't.

In the most recent Washington Post/ABC News national survey, 45 percent of those tested said Obama would be a "risky" choice for president while 50 percent said the same of McCain. Obama's "risk" numbers have decreased since the summer while McCain's have risen.

The McCain campaign clearly believes, however, that in the final reckoning, the "Obama as risk" message can work. Will voters re-visit their doubts and worries about the Illinois Senator when the enter the ballot box in 11 days time? Or has Obama answered his doubters?

By Chris Cillizza  |  October 24, 2008; 12:00 PM ET
Categories:  Ad Wars , Eye on 2008  
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WARNING!!


You tube video of Barack Obama in Kenya supporting Raila Odinga, the election and violence afterwards.

Odinga was the agent of 'change'


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b63bBCC2-yM

Posted by: cingi | October 26, 2008 9:49 PM | Report abuse

SEN. MCCAINS' BIGGEST PROBLEM IS THAT HE IS UNABLE TO PROPERLY DELIVER ECONOMIC MESSAGE TO THE VOTERS!!!!

Today on CNN Wolf Blitzer, I was watching a Republican debate Evan Bayh about the economy . Guess what! The Rep. creamed Evan Bayh. This surely shows that with a smart and good speaker the Rep. could win the economy issue. I also believe that the Reps. are right on economy and Dems. have been wrong all along -Look what they have done to our economy!

BTW, It's obvious Sen. McCain can't effectively deliver the Rep. economic message. So, it would be great if other Rep. go on TV and stand by Sen. McCain side and talk about economy.Eg: Gov. Romney, Gov. Huckabee, Bobby Jindal, etc..

Posted by: lazerboy | October 26, 2008 2:05 PM | Report abuse

I don't understand why this is being interpreted as a Biden gaffe. We live in a serious world that needs serious people. While McCain and Palin are busy spreading their narrow rhetoric on socialism and taxes, Obama and Biden are anticipating future challenges.

Doesn't it show the wisdom and forward thinking of a possible Obama administration? We certainly know that the Bush administration was not anticipating 9/11 when they ignored the now infamous "Bin Laden determined to strike in US" memo. McCain certainly thinks highly of himself if he thinks that threats like Al Queda will not strike simply because he is elected president.

By making this leap of logic it actually McCain and Palin that are exposing their arrogance and committing the "gaffe."

Posted by: StoptheSpin | October 26, 2008 10:42 AM | Report abuse

Just to show you how stupid some of McCain's lemmings are, this is especially in reply to "thecannula" posting which says:

"My small business grossed many times Obama's glass ceiling last year and employed one more person this year than it will employ next year if my taxes are raised by 3% PLUS 15.65% (payroll cap elimination) as Obama would do!"

The ceiling he is referring to $ 250,000 net income, that's after all operating expenses, you dunce, not on your "gross" income.

This reminds me of the McCain cam"pain" committee ad with the prosperous looking businessman that says he could hire 20 more employees but won't if Obama is elected because he doesn't want to pay the taxes. So let's understand this? He could hire 20 employees and let's say make a profit of $ 10,000 a year on their work for a total of $ 200,000 (that's $10,000 times 20 employees for the McCain campaign workers who might not otherwise understand how I arrived at the number)and then have to paY 3% extra or $ 6,000 in tax but the smart businessman that he is, and the country having 700,000 or more newly unemployed in 2008, so far, he is not going to hire those people and make a profit of $ 194,000. Not only is McCain lying to us everyday but he is insulting our intelligence.

McCain had a modicum of honour before this campaign but has earned nothing but our contempt ever since. Whatever happened to "Country first". YOU ARE NOTHING BUT A PATHETIC, SELFISH OLD MAN WITHOUT AN OUNCE OF DIGNITY.

Posted by: dlaselvaca | October 26, 2008 1:18 AM | Report abuse

Today's NY Times Headline-

Spending Stalls and Businesses Slash U.S. Jobs
By LOUIS UCHITELLE
As the financial crisis cuts demand for American goods and services, the workers who produce them are losing their jobs by the tens of thousands.

***GREAT TIME TO ELECT A PRESIDENT WHO WOULD RAISE TAXES ON BUSINESS!!!!!***

Small Businesses will lay off!

Big Businesses will move jobs overseas!

13% Unemployment in an Obama 1st term...

(only Herbert Hoover raised taxes in a recession...what kind of a warped mind squeezes every last drop of milk from a sick cow?)


Posted by: thecannula | October 26, 2008 12:27 AM | Report abuse

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The Polls are wrong it is that simple. Every discussion we have had with people on the ground the topic has come up - where are the pollsters supposedly finding all these Obama supporters ???


Obama should be concerned.


I simply can not believe that this nation would vote for an inexperienced person who has no economic or business experience except for buying cocaine.


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Posted by: 37thandOSt | October 25, 2008 9:05 AM | Report abuse

The political attacks are planned to distract from our thinking about the capability to analyze and communicate, the capability to have this analysis and communication result in good judgment in choosing advisors and in coordinating the best ideas for America, not just the simplistic ideas. The simplistic distractions are planned to keep voters from thinking about how much poor judgment (Like Keating Five, the relationship with the Bin Ladin family and the last eight years of agreeing with the administration on war and deregulation) costs Americans in resources and in life and limb.

The special interests and lobby groups want to buy government decisions on the cheap and take advantage of Americans without having to deal with the complex results that might cripple our nation. They get people from the top of their class to represent them and manipulate to take advantage. We are too lax about the possibility that we might be represented by those from the bottom of their class and that we might be making it easy for the special interest lobby groups to take advantage of us. Again!!! They "spread the wealth" from the middle class up to the rich who pay for their services.

Having effective and timely studies by our government led by those from the top of their class has been lacking at great cost to us all. We have lost planes due to neglect in the timely study of flight manuals. We have lost lives and livelihood due to neglect in the timely study of intelligence information. We have lost a solid economy due to neglect in the timely study of needed regulations and deregulations. We have lost our standing in the world due to neglect in the timely study of diplomacy and when and how to successfully use it. Our country has had to have an expensive surge with financial payments to those who would oppose and expensive bailouts with hopes that these, although expensive, will fix some of the poor judgment and will work in the long run.

It is time to replace the simplistic attitudes and ideas useful in manipulation with a stronger understanding of ideas useful in doing the strong work needed to get us back on track. This needs to be led by a dedicated president from the top of his class, rather than by the special interest lobby groups who are carefully selected and paid to take advantage of America.

Again!!! Let's be careful in rebuilding our country's capabilities. We cannot buy off on Palin's advice not to be concerned about killing civilians. We cannot buy off on McCain's “I know how to” claims on how to win a war , fix the economy and so on. These are simplistic ideas of those from the bottom of their class, not based on effective studies. They are useful in delighting the emotions of supporters.

Posted by: mickeysteib | October 25, 2008 2:23 AM | Report abuse

2 Lies Constantly Told about
Obama's Tax Poicy-

1. Same as Clinton's- Nope, Bill said in 1988 that Raising the Cap on Payroll Taxes was "REGRESSIVE" (ouch)- which is exactly what Obama wants to do!

2. 98% of small businesses make less than 250K- ONLY if one counts everyone selling used license plates on EBAY- A Much Larger Percentage of Small businesses that EMPLOY (AND WILL LAY OFF) PEOPLE make over 250K a year.


My small business grossed many times Obama's glass ceiling last year and employed one more person this year than it will employ next year if my taxes are raised by 3% PLUS 15.65% (payroll cap elimination) as Obama would do!

So, if Obama's elected, add my small business and others like it to the big businesses already laying off this quarter- Yahoo, Ebay, Sprint, Alcoa,Chrysler, etc.
Keep those tax rates rising on employers Obama....even Bill Clinton called raising the payroll cap "Regressive"...that's what Obama's tax policy is Bill!

"From each according to his ability, To each according to his need"
K Marx 1875
B Obama 2008

Bill Clinton Reformed Welfare- Obama wants to Expand it in the form of "Tax Credits" - checks to people who pay no Federal Income Tax.

Posted by: thecannula | October 25, 2008 12:33 AM | Report abuse

MCCAIN'S OWN WORDS IN 2000 - HE'S A SOFT SOCIALIST FLIP-FLOPPER

STUDENT: Why is it that someone like my father who goes to school for 13 years gets penalized in a huge tax bracket because he's a doctor. Why is that - why does he have to pay higher taxes than everybody else? Just because he makes more money. How is that fair?

MCCAIN: I think you're questioning, questioning the fundamentals of a progressive tax system where people who make more money pay more in taxes than a flat across the board percentage. I think it's to some degree because we feel obviously that wealthy people can afford more. We have over the years beginning with John F. Kennedy reduced some of those marginal tax rates to make them less onerous. I believe that when you really look at the tax code the very wealthy because they can afford tax lawyers and all kinds of loopholes really don't pay as much as you think they do, when you just kook at the percentages. And I think middle income Americans, working Americans, who when you count in payroll taxes, sales taxes, mortgage -- all of the, all of the taxes that working Americans pay -- I think you would also think that they also deserve very significant relief.

At that point host Chris Matthews asked for members of the audience to applaud if they support wealthier people paying a higher percentage of their incomes; there was loud applause.

STUDENT: I still don't see how that's fair...aren't we getting closer and closer to Socialism and stuff...?

MCCAIN: Look, here's what I really believe: That when you are, when you reach a certain level of comfort, there's nothing wrong with paying somewhat more. But at the same time it shouldn't be totally out of proportion.

McCain added that the "first people who deserve a tax cut are working Americans...and they're the ones I would support tax cuts for first."

Posted by: seemstome | October 24, 2008 9:59 PM | Report abuse

John McCain not born in America

John McCain was born at Colon Hospital, Panama

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/05/01/AR2008050103224.html

The Senate declared John McCain to be able to legally run or be elected President.

However if McCain wins the Presidency it could be legally overturned.

Read the Facts

Posted by: gauthor | October 24, 2008 9:57 PM | Report abuse

The larger the mob, the harder the test. In small areas, before small electorates, a first-rate man occasionally fights his way through, carrying even the mob with him by force of his personality. But when the field is nationwide, and the fight must be waged chiefly at second and third hand, and the force of personality cannot so readily make itself felt, then all the odds are on the man who is, intrinsically, the most devious and mediocre — the man who can most easily adeptly disperse the notion that his mind is a virtual vacuum.

I guess H.L. Mencken was right about McCain all those years ago.

Posted by: BillyPilgrim1 | October 24, 2008 9:14 PM | Report abuse

Lame and unimaginative McCain. Hillary attempted this with the "whose gonna be there at 3am with the red phone" ad. Can't beat a dead horse especially after Powell's endorsement.

So the Republican campaign have insinuated pedophilia, corruption, terrorist activities, unmoral Christianity, anti-americanism and socialism. Wow..... whats next?

Peggy noonan wrote for the Wallstreet Journal that there is a great unseen 43% that this stuff appeals to. 43% isn't nothing.... but its not enough. I must admit that there is still the nagging question deep inside of me that says: What would the percentages be if Obama looked like Edwards?

I disagree that we don't see the 43%, on the contrary, we see them everyday and everywhere...an army of Joe sixpacks and pitbull hockey moms who seem to feel that the world should be recreated in their image. That everyone should look and act and most importantly think just like they do.

They live in constant fear and demonize the poor while hedge fund managers steal the money right out of their pockets and send their kids off to fight and die in unjust wars. Senator Obama is hated in many quarters not because of his policies but because his sheer presence reflects his detractors mediocrity and hypocrisy.

Evil is attracted to power and as the world's remaining super power it should come as no surprise that it would take root here. Xenophobia disguised as Christianity, Greed disguised as conservatism, Fascism disguised as morality. The phenomenon of Obama's campaign forces us to take a long hard look at ourselves and I hope that we come to the conclusion that we can do better than this.

And YES WE CAN.

Posted by: StoptheSpin | October 24, 2008 8:43 PM | Report abuse

BREAKING: FROM DAILY KOS, MAC CAMPAIGN PUSHED HOAX STORY TO MEDIA --

"DEVELOPING: McCain Campaign Pushed Hoax Attack Story
by DaveV
Fri Oct 24, 2008 at 02:41:30 PM PDT
Greg Sargent has some startling developments:

"John McCain's Pennsylvania communications director told reporters in the state an incendiary version of the hoax story about the attack on a McCain volunteer well before the facts of the case were known or established -- and even told reporters outright that the "B" carved into the victim's cheek stood for "Barack," according to multiple sources familiar with the discussions.""

Posted by: broadwayjoe | October 24, 2008 7:40 PM | Report abuse

O is just fine.

Mac, what IS risky is your bigoted young female campaigner in Western Pennsylvania (where Palin just happened to be campaigning) making up a completely false story that she was robbed and sexually assaulted by a 6' 4" black Obama supporter who, you said, carved a B in your face with a five-inch knife after he realized you were a Mac supporter.

Even though the story was bogus on its face (for ex., the carved-in "B" was backwards and could not have been made with a knife and she sought no medical attention (because the ER folks would have known it was bogus)), the MSM eagerly picked up on it (as Mac/Palin knew it would) and would have fanned it into a full-blown national incident leading to riots, and the brutalization (if not deaths) of hundreds of black males in Pittsburgh (see, e.g., Emmitt Till, Rosewood), and the loss of O critical votes in race-sensitive Western Pa., had not the city police quickly done their job and exposed this evil as a hoax. Major congrats. to the city police!

Before the hoax was exposed, the VP of Faux News, said publicly Mac's campaign would be over if the girl's claims were a hoax. Well, they WERE so I guess it IS.

We shudder to think what other evil stunts Mac/Palin has planned before Nov. 4. VOTE EARLY, EVERYONE, TO GET THIS UGLY THING OVER WITH.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | October 24, 2008 7:09 PM | Report abuse

I don't understand how any "hockey mom" could spend $150,000 of campaign money on clothes in a couple months. Yes, I understand candidates have to look good. I'm all for the professional wardrobes, and grooming, and all that. But... jeez. A hundred and fifty grand -- holy crap. And from campaign donations of people like "Joe the Plumber", no less. And after you've just spent two months painting yourself as a salt of the earth small-town hero, a "real" American who doesn't go in for all that stuff?


You know, Palin really is beginning to come off as a con artist -- a confidence (wo)man. Pure Harold Hill stuff. She says some pretty words, bluffs her way through all the situations that require active knowledge, the crowd cheers, and all the while fleeces everyone around her for travel, and fame, and clothes, etc., etc.


Palin's ridiculous levels of professed self-confidence, during all of this, just adds to the overall vibe that she's playing everyone for rubes, and is enjoying every minute of it. It's not a job or even an election to her, it's a game show, and she won the Big Prize.


What an exceptionally dislikable person Palin seems to be. From the first moment she stepped onto the national stage, there hasn't been a single retold aspect of her personal history that would inspire confidence, or respect, or anything but revulsion. She seems the perfect example of a shallow, petty, self-centered person rising in power simply because being shallow, petty and self-centered are the only tools necessary to do so. I half expect her to make off with McCain's wallet at some point, and be found two weeks later in Atlantic City.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrzXLYA_e6E
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Posted by: DrainYou | October 24, 2008 6:56 PM | Report abuse

Here's what's risky: Voting for McCain when he's supported by this bunch: Al Qaeda (the terrorist group supports a McCain presidency); convicted domestic terrorist G. Gordon Liddy (who hosted fund raising events for McCain); convicted swindler of millions of Americans Charles Keating (McCain sold out all Americans to defend this criminal); jailed republican voter fraud perpetrator Mark Jacoby of YPM (who McCain donated $175,000 to so Jacoby and YPM could commit real voter fraud); McCain's pastor John Hagee (who called the Catholic church disparaging comments among so many other anti-American views); Sarah Palin (whose husband belongs to the Alaska Independence Party, a vile anti-United States group whose leader wants Alaska to secede from the U.S.).

Posted by: Russell4America | October 24, 2008 6:39 PM | Report abuse

HEY MCCAIN, YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT RISKY IS?


It's when a warmongering old man like you starts babbling about about staying in Iraq for 100 years and then starts singing about how fun it would be to bomb Iran off the face of the earth.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nqtL-P8kzo
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YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT ELSE IS RISKY, MCCAIN?


It's risky when you pick a half cocked rightwing lunitic fringe nut (Palin) as your running-mate.


Palin: "I Don't Know If Abortion Clinic Bombers Are Terrorists":


The buffoonish nature of Sarah Palin's vice presidential candidacy has mostly been a disaster for the McCain-Palin campaign, but it is has delivered at least one benefit: her foibles have helped obscure the true nature of her right-wing extremism.


But now, Palin's self-destructive behavior is threatening to expose even that. In an interview broadcast yesterday on NBC Nightly News, Brian Williams asked Palin whether she felt abortion clinic bombers were terrorists.


Amazingly, she said that she didn't know:


WILLIAMS: Is an abortion clinic bomber a terrorist under this definition?

PALIN: "I don’t know if you’re going to use the word ‘terrorist’ there," she said.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hu1NeI4M1k
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Palin's answer is perhaps the single most incredible thing I've heard from any candidate during this entire general election campaign, and I don't make that statement lightly.


What makes it so incredible is that Sarah Palin was responding to one of the easiest questions that has been posed during this entire campaign. Her answer should have been simple: of course they are terrorists.


Instead, Palin balked, saying that while bombings were unacceptable, she didn't know if they were acts of terrorism. Palin's answer was an obvious wink and a nod to right wing nut job extremists, with whom she shares radical views, including opposition to reproductive freedom even in cases of rape or incest and advovacy of protests designed to disrupt access to abortion clinics.


This was not a question to which "I don't know" was an acceptable answer. There is no excuse for it, and it puts Sarah Palin well on the margins of this nation's political spectrum.
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http://www.prochoice.org/about_abortion/violence/index.html
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Posted by: DrainYou | October 24, 2008 6:18 PM | Report abuse

Good news!!

The Dow was down only 314 points today.

Yaaah!

:-(

Posted by: toritto | October 24, 2008 5:40 PM | Report abuse

When Abraham Lincoln said " You can fool- some of the people all the time..." he was talking about poor republicans. The rich republicans never get fooled, only richer.

Cindy and John will be able to afford more houses.

Posted by: seemstome | October 24, 2008 5:31 PM | Report abuse

Congress mulls major 401(k) changes
By Sara Hansard
October 7, 2008,

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Congress mulls thousands of ideas.
So what?

Bush never mulled a one.

Posted by: wpost4112 | October 24, 2008 5:13 PM | Report abuse

"Tipp is the most accurate pollster" nice try.
What about Rasmussen? It's in the averages that you will find the truth.

11 days left until republican meltdown

Posted by: seemstome | October 24, 2008 5:11 PM | Report abuse

From- Investment News- the leading news source for investment advisors

Congress mulls major 401(k) changes
By Sara Hansard
October 7, 2008, 5:18 PM EST Post a Comment Recommend (252)

A wide range of sweeping changes to the 401(k) system were proposed Tuesday at a hearing on how the market crisis has devastated retirement savings plans.
Chief among them was eliminating $80 billion in tax savings for people enrolled in 401(k) retirement savings plans.

This was suggested by the chairman of the House Committee on Education and Labor.

“With respect to the 401(k), it appears to be a plan that is not really well-devised for the changes in the market,” Rep. George Miller, D-Calif., said.

“We’ve invested $80 billion into subsidizing this activity,” he said, referring to tax breaks allowed for 401(k) contributions and savings.

With savings rates going down, “what do we have to start to think about in Congress of whether or not we want to continue and invest that $80 billion for a policy that is not generating what we … say it should?” Mr. Miller said.

Congress should let workers trade their 401(k) assets for guaranteed retirement accounts made up of government bonds, suggested Teresa Ghilarducci, an economics professor at The New School for Social Research in New York.

When workers collected Social Security, the guaranteed retirement account would pay an inflation-adjusted annuity under her plan.

“The way the government now encourages 401(k) plans is to spend $80 billion in tax breaks,” which goes to the highest-income earners, Ms. Ghilarducci said.

That simply results in transferring money from taxed savings accounts to untaxed accounts, she said.

“If we implement automatic [individual retirement accounts] or if we expand the 401(k) system, all we’re doing is adding to this inefficiency,” Ms. Ghilarducci said.

Rep. Robert Andrews, D-N.J., raised the issue of which investment advisers are allowed to offer workers investment advice.

The Department of Labor is considering “loopholes” that would allow advisers to offer “conflicted investment advice if the advisers work for subsidiaries of financial services companies that sell the investments,” he said.

With American workers facing $2 trillion in losses from retirement plans over the past year and Democrats expected to gain seats in the House and the Senate, actions being contemplated by the committee are an important harbinger of what could come out of Congress next year.

(Wonder if a Democratic Congress and White House can get this done?Same plan was pushed through in Argentina!)

Posted by: thecannula | October 24, 2008 5:03 PM | Report abuse

doofus doodled:

Democrats are now looking at a plan to go after Americans' 401k accounts. These accounts serve as the retirement nest-egg for millions of Americans. They are used because money can be saved in these accounts tax-free. Oh, that is unless that new Democrat plan of "spread the wealth" becomes law. Then, we could all see our 401k tax breaks go out the window...


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More Drudge hyperventilating...

Congress is soliciting viewponts and opinions...this is just one of many.

Unlike Bush and Palin, who talk only with "God," smart people listen to various human viewpoints.

Posted by: wpost4112 | October 24, 2008 5:02 PM | Report abuse

McCain is the risky choice.
John McCain has been acting erratically ever since he selected Palin for his running mate. When the economy failed his behavior became bizarre. Stresses on any president in the next few years are going to be extreme . They will be fatal for someone in McCain's health and mental state. When he steps down we will then inherit his Palin fiasco.

Now Colin Powell has recognized these facts and has endorsed Obama as being a cool-headed and logical leader who is more fit for the presidency.

Kipling said it best:

If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you
But make allowance for their doubting too,
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, don't deal in lies,
Or being hated, don't give way to hating,
And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise:

If you can dream--and not make dreams your master,
If you can think--and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,

If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
Or walk with Kings---nor lose the common touch,
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
If all men count with you, but none too much:
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds' worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And---which is more---you'll be a Man, my son!


He was talking about men like Obama.


Posted by: seemstome | October 24, 2008 5:00 PM | Report abuse

Democrats Planning to Tax Our 401K's?- No Wonder Obama dropping with those making 30k-75k/year!

Polltrack.com today-

If we drop out the Zogby survey--polling that has been erratic and out of sync with most other organizations--Obama's lead drops to 4.2%, 48.8% to 44.6%. Odder still, are the results of the IBD/TIPP daily tracking poll (worthy of notice, because TIPP was the most accurate pollster in 2004, predicting the outcome within a fraction of a percentage point): they show the race virtually dead even nationally. IBD/TIPP writes: "McCain has cut into Obama's lead for a second day and is now just 1.1 points behind. The spread was 3.7 Wednesday and 6.0 Tuesday. The Republican is making headway with middle- and working- class voters, and has surged 10 points in two days among those earning between $30,000 and $75,000. He has also gone from an 11-point deficit to a 9-point lead among Catholics."

Obama- you better start spending even more of the Palestinian's and Nadhmi Auchi's (The Iraqi who "loaned" Rezko the money for Obama's side yard) donations on the Catholic vote.

Posted by: thecannula | October 24, 2008 4:55 PM | Report abuse

Anyone who thinks that terrorism can destroy an economy or a nation has only to look at Israel.
They have had heavy burdens to bear and still prosper.
They handle attacks quickly and don't dwell on the negative aspects or live in fear.
They don't waste money or military strength fighting wars where they don't need to be fought.
If a nation stuck in the middle of Islamic
Terrorism can survive and prosper, what does the United States have to fear?
It's the republicans, bubba.

Posted by: seemstome | October 24, 2008 4:50 PM | Report abuse

If the democrats ever go after my 401k they'll find the republicans already cleaned it out.

Posted by: seemstome | October 24, 2008 4:47 PM | Report abuse

Some woman scratched a backwards "B" on her cheek, had someone give her a black eye and said an African American man did it because of her McCain bumper sticker.
Police are now looking for her accomplice, Karl Rove.

Posted by: seemstome | October 24, 2008 4:45 PM | Report abuse

I'm VERY heartened that Americans are finally developing class consciousness. It's been at least 80 years since the last (albeit defeated ) such attempt.

See if you discard the silly Horatio Alger mythology, you'll be free to fight for your rights as a member of an economic class. It's very empowering and liberating. Because, as the old Russian saying goes, "alone you're no warrior".

Posted by: VMR1 | October 24, 2008 4:41 PM | Report abuse

leapin:

You've got an amazin' LEAPIN' logic

Posted by: VMR1 | October 24, 2008 4:34 PM | Report abuse

I'm surprised it doesn't have dyslexic black men with knives carving Obama's initials into the knives of Texas college girls.

Posted by: thrh | October 24, 2008 4:26 PM | Report abuse

Seems that McCain has more than short "senior moments"--otherwise he would remember how often first term presidents are presented with crises by foreign foes: George W. Bush with 9/11 eight months into his first term; Bill Clinton with the first WTC attack one month after taking office, etc. Biden did not say anything that would reflect negatively on Obama. Whoever wins on Nov. 4th is likely to face early crises.
For more on this, read:
http://www.reflectivepundit.com/reflectivepundit/2008/10/biden-mccain-ne.html

Posted by: bn1123 | October 24, 2008 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Democrats are now looking at a plan to go after Americans' 401k accounts. These accounts serve as the retirement nest-egg for millions of Americans. They are used because money can be saved in these accounts tax-free. Oh, that is unless that new Democrat plan of "spread the wealth" becomes law. Then, we could all see our 401k tax breaks go out the window...


According to a report in U.S. News , Democrats are considering a plan that essentially end 401k plans in favor of a government-run saving plan. As the other notes:

I hate to use the "S" word, but the American government would never do something as, well, socialist as seize private pension funds, right? This is exactly what cash-strapped Argentina just did in the name of protecting workers' retirement accounts. Now, even Uncle Sam isn't that stupid, but some Democrats might try something almost as loopy: kill 401(k) plans.

House Democrats, looking for a way to have government take over more aspects of our lives, recently heard testimony on a plan promoted by Teresa Ghilarducci, a professor at the New School of Social Research in New York, "on her idea to eliminate the preferential tax treatment of the popular retirement plans."

In place of 401(k) plans, she would have workers transfer their dough into government-created "guaranteed retirement accounts" for every worker. The government would deposit $600 (inflation indexed) every year into the GRAs. Each worker would also have to save 5 percent of pay into the accounts, to which the government would pay a measly 3 percent return.

The topic is also covered in an article in Workforce Management . The Democrats' plan would target "the $80 billion in annual tax breaks that 401(k) investors receive." In essence, the 401k would lose the benefits that make it popular including the "employer-matching" feature upon which so many average Americans rely.

“From where I sit that’s just crazy,” said John Belluardo, president of Stewardship Financial Services Inc. in Tarrytown, New York. “A lot of people contribute to their 401(k)s because of the match of the employer,” he said. Belluardo’s firm does not manage assets directly.

Higher-income employers provide matching funds to employee plans so that they can qualify for tax benefits for their own defined-contribution plans, he said.

“If the tax deferral goes away, the employers have no reason to do the matches, which primarily help people in the lower income brackets,” Belluardo said.

The article quotes Christopher Van Slyke, a partner in the La Jolla, California, advisory firm Trovena. Van Slyke makes a key observation which I will repeat here: "This is a battle between liberalism and conservatism. People are afraid because their accounts are seeing some volatility, so Democrats will seize on the opportunity to attack a program where investors control their own destiny."


Posted by: leapin | October 24, 2008 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Why is the Post completely ignoring the current Willie Horton story that's burning up the rest of the American media? A McCain coampaign worker invented a story about a black man attacking her and carving a B into her cheek. This has Karl Rove written ALL over it. Even FoxNews is covering it, but the ever-deferential Post is giving a pass to their friend John again by turning the other way!

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/24/mccain-campaign-volunteer-admits-alleged-attack-hoax/

Posted by: B2O2 | October 24, 2008 3:51 PM | Report abuse

papasmoke:

Do you have any links for that dirty, juicy gossip? I would love to read it.

Posted by: beaversrus | October 24, 2008 3:27 PM | Report abuse
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The house story is big, that is like going to jail stuff. The trial right now of Ted Stevens is nothing next to that.
The drugs are from Enquirer but have been confirmed. Enquirer is a sleaze rag but they get it right. Her affair they even have polygraph tests. When the republicans threatened the Enquirer they just said bring it on we have a lot more.

Palin has pet names for minorities like "Arctic Arabs" and drops the "N" word at the drop of a hat. I think it is safe to say she is in fact a bigot.
Her son was involved with a vandalism that resulted in a few hundred thousand dollars of damage. He made some kind of deal that resulted in him going into the military. The pregnant daughter had been thrown out of the house till the VP thing came up. Then all of a sudden they became this "Leave it to beaver" family. Everything about Palin is a fraud including her past tax filings that are now being looked into.

Before she was governor their business (cash business) didn't show enough money for them to not be on welfare. They had a car wash with no licenses and their corporation was involuntarily liquidated because they never paid any of the proper fees.
One of the worst things came out today where she refused to condemn people who have bombed abortion clinics. I guess she picks and chooses the people she considers terrorists.

I will try to post the Enquirere story but this blog blocks some postings. You can do a little googling.

Posted by: popasmoke | October 24, 2008 3:42 PM | Report abuse

The Republican fraud is that they cater to the rich, and fool the middle class into thinking they are protecting them against the poor. hence the "he wants to take your hard earned money and give it to the lazy (minority) poor." It works since the middle class want to identify with the rich, but the scam is wearing thin. They just hope people don't read much and don't pull out their pencils and figure out whose ox is getting gored.

As Obama put it, McCain isn't trying to protect Joe the Plumber, he's trying to protect Joe the Hedge Fund Manager. McCain just lies to Joe the Plumber to make him afraid of Joe the Janitor

Posted by: JoeT1 | October 24, 2008 3:28 PM | Report abuse

papasmoke:

Do you have any links for that dirty, juicy gossip? I would love to read it.

Posted by: beaversrus | October 24, 2008 3:27 PM | Report abuse

John McCain is just so boring. Terrorist. Muslim, Socialist. OK - we get it. But aren't taxes always about redistribution of wealth. .........................

http://thefiresidepost.com/2008/10/24/taxes-are-inherently-socialistic/

Posted by: glclark4750 | October 24, 2008 3:23 PM | Report abuse

There is proof in a video that Sarah Palin has openly promoted and endorsed Alaskan independence.Does McCain have an answer to that?
Instead of spending $150000 on clothes - they should list each and everything that was bought - it would have been cheaper to buy a couple of muzzles which would have served a better purpose.Expensive clothing and designerware does not project intelligence - on the contrary it has cofirmed the stupidity of those involved
The McCain crowd is only projecting ignorance which is the cornerstone of their csmpaign.If John McCain really had the interest of the country at heart he would,like a gentleman,refrain from his smear campaign which is only good for enticing voters who voted for George Bush and have taken the country to the brink of disaster.Is he the kind of person that can be relied upon to plan the future of the country and the role it plays in world affairs? World leaders respect intelligence and people should carefully consider the image he is projecting in the eyes of the world.Indirectly,he is encouraging those with weird beliefs, people who do not have the faintest clue to world affairs to express their racist and ignorant opinions and that in itself spells disaster.
In contrast,both Mr. & Mrs.Obama have repeatedly proved their cultural and intellectual ability.
And for that ignorant bunch of racists they need to know that brains are not colored and color is only skin deep - it does not account for intelligence or polished behaviour.

Posted by: stan_soares | October 24, 2008 3:06 PM | Report abuse
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Heck there is proof she had an affair, she did drugs and may still, Her kids do drugs and drink. Her prego daughter sleeps around. They don't even know for sure whose baby it is. Her son Track is a druggie who went into the military rather then jail. She has a $550,000.00 house that was given to her "free" as graft for awarding a multi million dollar contract for a sports center to a friend. I can go on and on, this woman is so dirty.

The press has reported on hardly any of it. Unless you read an Alaskan paper you may not have heard of any of this.
What do you think the republicans would have done with this kind of information? Obama has played it so clean and straight it has been ridiculous. Obama should have torn them apart with this stuff and didn't.

Posted by: popasmoke | October 24, 2008 3:21 PM | Report abuse

There is proof in a video that Sarah Palin has openly promoted and endorsed Alaskan independence.Does McCain have an answer to that?
Instead of spending $150000 on clothes - they should list each and everything that was bought - it would have been cheaper to buy a couple of muzzles which would have served a better purpose.Expensive clothing and designerware does not project intelligence - on the contrary it has cofirmed the stupidity of those involved
The McCain crowd is only projecting ignorance which is the cornerstone of their csmpaign.If John McCain really had the interest of the country at heart he would,like a gentleman,refrain from his smear campaign which is only good for enticing voters who voted for George Bush and have taken the country to the brink of disaster.Is he the kind of person that can be relied upon to plan the future of the country and the role it plays in world affairs? World leaders respect intelligence and people should carefully consider the image he is projecting in the eyes of the world.Indirectly,he is encouraging those with weird beliefs, people who do not have the faintest clue to world affairs to express their racist and ignorant opinions and that in itself spells disaster.
In contrast,both Mr. & Mrs.Obama have repeatedly proved their cultural and intellectual ability.
And for that ignorant bunch of racists they need to know that brains are not colored and color is only skin deep - it does not account for intelligence or polished behaviour.

Posted by: stan_soares | October 24, 2008 3:06 PM | Report abuse

I just have to say that, to the American people who see the truth, and are longing for solid leadership from a man of vision, I hope you get it.

If not, November 5 will bring a flood of tears, from all four corners.

Please stay strong in your conviction and know that the rest of the world supports you in your desire to take back your country, and give us back our world.

Posted by: ngeisler | October 24, 2008 3:06 PM | Report abuse

...Bachmann taping an apology for her stupidity.

...she is now trailing by several points in her re-election bid.

boohoo......no big loss.

Thanks for the seat fascist ditz.

:-)

Posted by: toritto | October 24, 2008 3:05 PM | Report abuse

Fox News VP:

If McCain Worker 'Mutilation' Story Is a Hoax His Campaign Is 'Over'

It had drawn wide local and national -- even political attention, with the McCain and Obama campaigns weighing in -- but now the Ashley Todd story has fallen apart. Police in Pittsburgh have now declared the tale a hoax and the woman, who has confessed, now faces charges for her deed.

Earlier today, John Moody, executive vice president at Fox News, commented on his blog there that "this incident could become a watershed event in the 11 days before the election. If Ms. Todd's allegations are proven accurate, some voters may revisit their support for Senator Obama, not because they are racists (with due respect to Rep. John Murtha), but because they suddenly feel they do not know enough about the Democratic nominee.

"If the incident turns out to be a hoax, Senator McCain's quest for the presidency is over, forever linked to race-baiting."

He titled his posting: "Moment of Truth." Indeed.
It started yesterday afternoon with Matt Drudge screaming at the top of his site this afternoon in red type -- but no siren -- that a Pittsburgh campaign worker for McCain, age 20, had been viciously attacked and the letter "B" carved into her face, presumably by a Barack Obama fan. Her name, it soon emerged, was Ashley Todd and she had come to Pittsburgh from College Station, Texas, to help out.
It started to appear overblown (Drudge downgraded it to smaller, black type) as the police noted that it seemed to be a robbery ($60) and she did not seek medical attention. But later press reports said she would visit a hospital, Sarah Palin and maybe John McCain had reportedly called her and Obama has condemned the alleged assault, although McCain/Obama angle to story not yet confirmed.
Still later, conservative columnist Michelle Malkin, and some others, grew skeptical. For one thing, the "B" was carved a little too lightly and perfectly -- and backward, as if done using a mirror. Smoking Gun probed a too-pat "Twitter" angle and Gawker and Wonkette looked at her MySpace page.

Now police say that evidence from the ATM that she reportedly visited did not match her account. And it turns out she changed her story, admitting that her assailant did not see a McCain bumper sticker and adding to her account a sexual assault and losing consciousness. Liberal bloggers poked all sorts of holes in the story, including the fact that the attack allegedly took place in a very public place. Drudge added a link titled "B...or B.S."?

Finally, early this afternoon, came word that she had made it all up.

Posted by: popasmoke | October 24, 2008 3:05 PM | Report abuse

Bachman's "there MAY be un-American Congressmen, so let's look into it", debacle on MSNBC was the same as this McCain 'Obama is the boogeyman' baloney. McCain's brother messed up and said the entire Northern Virginian electorate is communist. The way it is supposed to be done is by innuendo about candidates, not lies about entire regions of normal voters. Now Senator/Mrs Dole in North Carolina put out a liar mailer saying the DEM Senator candidate Hagan is a 'radical'. Nonsense. The GOP is ONLY making up lies about the opponent at this point. Joe McCarthy, Richard Nixon and his liar mailer that the opponent was BOTH a commie and gay, these are the ONLY components of the McCain strategy you describe in less pointed terms. The GOP is all slime all the time.
I pray that the independents reject these boogeyman lies (muslim terrorist socialist homosexual) lies.

Posted by: ottothewise | October 24, 2008 3:02 PM | Report abuse

scrivener writes
"It appears to me that Obama once again is risking a last-minute McCain turnaround by coasting to the finish line."

Scriv, I'm still waiting for that last minute ticket-swap you predicted that puts HRC up as the Dem candidate for President. What happened to that plan?

Posted by: bsimon1 | October 24, 2008 3:02 PM | Report abuse

McCain is now the preferred candidate of the Al-Quaida website.
They want him in office because they think he is dumb enough to keep our troops bogged down in a meaningless war in Iraq, while our economy is destroyed. The Al-Quaida called for a terrorist attack against the USA so that the voters in the swing states would vote for old John. The preferred candidates of the Al-Quaida are Palin and McCain because they only know war, and not negotiations.

Posted by: ottothewise | October 24, 2008 3:00 PM | Report abuse

This reminds me of the time directly after 9/11. I lived in the NY metro area and actually watched the towers burn and ultimately fall from across the Hudson river. For a time after that, whenever there were demands for the truth behind what happened that day, throughout the 9/11 Commission's hearings, every time the people asked questions, they would raise the terror alert. We were in danger coincidentally every time someone wanted to know the truth. Now that the hearings are over there are no more terror alerts. FEAR FEAR FEAR. That's all the repubertycans know. Maybe we can scare them into following us without question.

Posted by: 1freethinker1 | October 24, 2008 3:00 PM | Report abuse

This is a campaign in the toilet. Falling back on tactics they already know won't work.

Maybe McCain should scream about Bill Ayers and Rev. Wright and scream at the top of his lungs over and over.

Maybe he should try that "Bridge to Nowhere" thing again. Or more inanity about "earmarks."

Remind me again, why did anyone ever think he was a viable candidate?

Posted by: chrisfox8 | October 24, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse
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ON NOV.4TH THAT SOUND YOU HEAR WILL BE ONE BIG "FLUSH" SENDING MCCAIN AND PALIN WHERE THEY BELONG.

Posted by: popasmoke | October 24, 2008 2:57 PM | Report abuse

Bachman's "there MAY be un-American Congressmen, so let's look into it", debacle on MSNBC was the same as this McCain 'Obama is the boogeyman' baloney. McCain's brother messed up and said the entire Northern Virginian electorate is communist. The way it is supposed to be done is by innuendo about candidates, not lies about entire regions of normal voters. Now Mrs Dole in North Carolina put out a liar mailer saying the DEM Hagan is a 'radical'. The GOP is ONLY about making up lies about the opponent at this point. Joe McCarthy, Richard Nixon and his liar mailer that the opponent was BOTH a commie and gay, these are the ONLY components of the McCain strategy you describe in less pointed terms. The GOP is all slime all the time.
I pray that the independents reject these boogeyman (muslim terrorist socialist homosexual) lies.

Posted by: ottothewise | October 24, 2008 2:57 PM | Report abuse

diaco7529 - LOL! Either you are an agent for the DNC ensuring no one votes for McCain by that crazy rhetoric or your mom and dad are closesly related - like brother and sister maybe????

Posted by: 1freethinker1 | October 24, 2008 2:50 PM | Report abuse

This is a campaign in the toilet. Falling back on tactics they already know won't work.

Maybe McCain should scream about Bill Ayers and Rev. Wright and scream at the top of his lungs over and over.

Maybe he should try that "Bridge to Nowhere" thing again. Or more inanity about "earmarks."

Remind me again, why did anyone ever think he was a viable candidate?

Posted by: chrisfox8 | October 24, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse

HEY MCCAIN, YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT RISKY IS?


It's when a warmongering old nut like you starts babbling about about staying in Iraq for 100 years and then starts singing about how fun it would be to bomb Iran off the face of the earth.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nqtL-P8kzo
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YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT ELSE IS RISKY, MCCAIN?

It's risky when you pick a half cocked rightwing lunitic fringe nut (Palin) as your running-mate.


Palin: "I Don't Know If Abortion Clinic Bombers Are Terrorists":


The buffoonish nature of Sarah Palin's vice presidential candidacy has mostly been a disaster for the McCain-Palin campaign, but it is has delivered at least one benefit: her foibles have helped obscure the true nature of her right-wing extremism.


But now, Palin's self-destructive behavior is threatening to expose even that. In an interview broadcast yesterday on NBC Nightly News, Brian Williams asked Palin whether she felt abortion clinic bombers were terrorists.


Amazingly, she said that she didn't know:


WILLIAMS: Is an abortion clinic bomber a terrorist under this definition?

PALIN: "I don’t know if you’re going to use the word ‘terrorist’ there," she said.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hu1NeI4M1k
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Palin's answer is perhaps the single most incredible thing I've heard from any candidate during this entire general election campaign, and I don't make that statement lightly.


What makes it so incredible is that Sarah Palin was responding to one of the easiest questions that has been posed during this entire campaign. Her answer should have been simple: of course they are terrorists.


Instead, Palin balked, saying that while bombings were unacceptable, she didn't know if they were acts of terrorism. Palin's answer was an obvious wink and a nod to right wing nut job extremists, with whom she shares radical views, including opposition to reproductive freedom even in cases of rape or incest and advovacy of protests designed to disrupt access to abortion clinics.


This was not a question to which "I don't know" was an acceptable answer. There is no excuse for it, and it puts Sarah Palin well on the margins of this nation's political spectrum.
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http://www.prochoice.org/about_abortion/violence/index.html
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Posted by: DrainYou | October 24, 2008 2:45 PM | Report abuse

Lame and unimaginative McCain. Hillary attempted this with the "whose gonna be there at 3am with the red phone" ad. Can't beat a dead horse especially after Powell's endorsement.

So the Republican campaign have insinuated pedophilia, corruption, terrorist activities, unmoral Christianity, anti-americanism and socialism. Wow..... whats next?

Peggy noonan wrote for the Wallstreet Journal that there is a great unseen 43% that this stuff appeals to. 43% isn't nothing.... but its not enough. I must admit that there is still the nagging question deep inside of me that says: What would the percentages be if Obama looked like Edwards?

I disagree that we don't see the 43%, on the contrary, we see them everyday and everywhere...an army of Joe sixpacks and pitbull hockey moms who seem to feel that the world should be recreated in their image. That everyone should look and act and most importantly think just like they do.

They live in constant fear and demonize the poor while hedge fund managers steal the money right out of their pockets and send their kids off to fight and die in unjust wars. Senator Obama is hated in many quarters not because of his policies but because his sheer presence reflects his detractors mediocrity and hypocrisy.

Evil is attracted to power and as the world's remaining super power it should come as no surprise that it would take root here. Xenophobia disguised as Christianity, Greed disguised as conservatism, Fascism disguised as morality. The phenomenon of Obama's campaign forces us to take a long hard look at ourselves and I hope that we come to the conclusion that we can do better than this.

And YES WE CAN.

Posted by: StoptheSpin | October 24, 2008 2:45 PM | Report abuse

Ahahaha so the story of the woman being attacked for sporting a McCain Sticker is FALSE? Another piece of fantasy like the Joe Plumber who was workign illegally as a plumber? What a shame that McClue-less is so out of touch with reality. ($50 per hour paid to farm workers who pick lettuce...hahahahahaha).

To the guy who states that Obama has hostility to the US Constitution: What Constitution? George W Bush (with McCain's vote 90% of the time) tore it up and stomped on it ("that G-d piece of paper that prevents me from doing my job") I can only hope that the next president restores that SACRED (in my mind) piece of paper!

Posted by: yard80197 | October 24, 2008 2:45 PM | Report abuse

it is way too much of a risk to have obama as president. how he got this far is beyond me. he is a liar and a deciever, so i have too believe that many have just been decieved,but hopefully by election day the majority of people will know obama true record and character. he is jsut no good in so many ways, it would take all day to go into all is bad, it would take a book. vote against obama and his evil agenda and vote for John McCain a proven man, a man of good character.

Posted by: diaco7529 | October 24, 2008 2:42 PM | Report abuse

37thandOst: ACORN isn't fraudulently registering anybody. the dishonest employees who are making up names like Mickey Mouse and the Dallas Cowboys aren't conspiring with Disney employees and real Dallas Cowboys so they can vote twice. No one is going to show up at the polls pretending to be those folks. the employees were stealing from ACORN, and ACORN turned them in and identified the registrations as bogus.

As for voter supression, that's the Republican playbook. they know the majority of new registrations are democrats, so they have hired a bunch of convicted vote fraud folks and others to do "perfect match" challenges to those registrations, so that if some clerk transposed your SSN when you registered and you don't match, your registration will be thrown out, which you won't know til you show up to vote. same thing with names, if your driver's license says Fred M Smith, and you registered as Frederick Miles Smith, you got trashed. Previous voters have already sorted this stuff out, so only new voters have the problem. Absolutely corrupt, Republican, strategy. thosands of blacks in Fl couldnt vote because of false matches to felony lists.

Voter supression fraud is the Republican game plan

Posted by: JoeT1 | October 24, 2008 2:42 PM | Report abuse

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You are risking your job if you vote for Obama - how do you expect him to know how to lead the economy ?

Obama has no economic or business experience except for buying cocaine.


Do not risk making the economy worse with Obama's high taxes.


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Posted by: 37thandOSt | October 24, 2008 2:36 PM | Report abuse


wpost4112"
"McCain relies upon luck. Obama upon brains"

No, Obama had the luck for the Wright baggage to not hit the news until after the first nine primaries. After that it was nip and tuck and Clinton almost won anyway.

Obama relies upon dishonesty and lacks fortitude.

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Posted by: Billw3 | October 24, 2008 2:35 PM | Report abuse

McCain always manages to be lame and disingenuous at the same time. The charge is lame, especially since he is about as erratic as they come, has a horrible temperament, has lost his roots, and picked the least qualified office holder in America as his VP. It's disingenuous because the quote, in context, is unremarkable at worst, and silly at best, and if the latter, it doesn't support any argument, let alone the one McCain is making.

Sort of like the socialist spread the wealth charge. It's lame because Obama was just talking about how a middle class tax cut would help Joe the Plumber's customers afford to buy his services, not welfare, and it's disingenuous because Obama's plan would result in the same tax structure as McCain proposed when he argued that the Bush tax cuts should have gone to the middle class instead of the wealthy in the first place. That's the net result of letting the Bush cuts expire and giving the middle class a tax break. It's pro business when McCain proposes it, but socialim when Obama does. McCain was going to give just as much of rich people's money to the hard working middle class, only when Obama proposes the exact same thing, it's suddenly hard working people's money being taken to give to lazy poor people. what a crock.

no one is buying any of this, nor are they buying the terrorist, muslim, anti-American garbage either.

we've had enough of idiot pastors actually opening Palin rallys asking God to help McCain win to protect His reputaion against those who pray to Bhudda and Allah who (for some unexplained reason are praying to them for Obama to win) who will think their god is bigger if he does.

she can't apologize for making the "pro America" "areas" of America argument as having "come across" wrong. It came across exactly as she meant it.

These folks just forgot the part in the Rove playbook that says you can't be that explicit. They got sloppy, dropped the "code" and Rove must be rolling his eyes saying "amateurs" because they have now figured out they missed that page and can't actually say what they've been saying (like Bachman, who must want the House Unamerican Activities Committee to come back - she must miss McCarthy - and Haines, who just flat out lied about saying liberals hate America, hard work and God until they played the tape) without driving away anyone with a brain (moderates and independents).

Posted by: JoeT1 | October 24, 2008 2:32 PM | Report abuse

ACORN


If there is voter fraud this year, those people who created ACORN and failed to put in place proper safeguards should be jailed immediately. If the Obama campaign has been involved in these efforts including arranging for funding for ACORN Obama and David Axelroad should be held personally responsible, arrested and jailed indefinitely.


The Obama campaign has already gone through vast efforts to prevent votes in Michigan and Florida which is almost communist tactics.


Watch - Acorn is under investigation - if they are submitting wholesale false voter registrations there could be an effort to have absentee ballots cast under those registrations - if Obama is involved they must jail him for years !!!


Seriously, if there is an attempt to steal this election something must be done.


For some reason the Obama campaign seems to believe that they are entitled to steal this election because of what they think Bush did in Florida in 2000 - that is not right - and if the country allows that to happen we will have a free-for-all in future elections.


Obama's campaign has already interfered improperly in the elections in Michigan and Florida.


Obama's campaign has already spent millions of dollars to pay bloggers to harrass and intimate people on the internet whose views Obama does not agree with.


Obama and his wife have a hostility toward the US Constitution rooted in slavery and the Jim Crow era - so they do not care about the US Constitution they way you would think they should.


If there is voter fraud which Obama has been a part of Obama should be jailed for a long time and he should be made an example of what black children should not grow up to be.


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Posted by: 37thandOSt | October 24, 2008 2:29 PM | Report abuse

Wow. McCain really is desperate and sad. What a lame scare tactic.. it might actually work though.. some people are that gullible.

Posted by: cmsatown | October 24, 2008 2:22 PM | Report abuse

They have nothing left but fear, the old republican standby. It's also the last thing the American people need at this point, in the current economic climate. Anyone who tries to manipulate you with hypothetical catastrophising is not your friend.

What a sad sack team, party and ideology.

From a little distance comes a clearer picture. The rest of the world is begging you to figure this out.

If you buy the crap McCain is trying to sell you, you'll be a neo-feudal society in no time.

Posted by: ngeisler | October 24, 2008 2:21 PM | Report abuse

John McCain can't even run a campaign, how is he going to run a country?????

Obama may not have all the answers, I'll take my chances with a highly intelligent person, someone who will listen to other intelligent people, and make rational decisions in the best interest of Americans.

Posted by: sollazo | October 24, 2008 2:15 PM | Report abuse

I am kind of tired of this election., I am looking ahead to 2012. You can go vote for your favorite candidate or Order a free 2012 bumper sticker for your favorite candidate at skip08.com

Did anyone else
see Huckabee and Al Sharpton go at it on the Huckabee show? See Clip at www.HuckabeeShow.com

Posted by: pastor123 | October 24, 2008 2:13 PM | Report abuse


Story made up.

A Pittsburgh police commander says a volunteer for the McCain campaign who reported being robbed and attacked near a bank ATM in Bloomfield has confessed to making up the story. Police say charges will be filed. More details to follow.

More of the story from AP:
A McCain campaign volunteer who reported that a tall black man robbed her and then cut a "B" onto her cheek after seeing a McCain bumper sticker on her car has been given a polygraph test because of "inconsistencies" in her story, police said.

Among other things, police said photos and bank card information from an automated teller machine where the college student claimed she was robbed do not show her using the machine at the time, police said.

Pittsburgh police spokeswoman Diane Richard wouldn't release the polygraph results, but said, "we're still looking at some inconsistencies" in the woman's story.

Police said the student, Ashley Todd, of College Station, Texas, who is white, told them she was attacked by a 6-foot-4 black man Wednesday night.

Richard said police have not ruled out that the woman was attacked as she claimed, and said inconsistencies deal primarily with how she described the attack.

"We're just trying to judge the validity of some of the information we received from her," Richard said. "We understand when you are under duress that sometimes you can't recollect things. We're just looking at all the angles."

Among the differences in her accounts are whether she lost consciousness, whether she remembers handing over money and how the man assaulted her, police said.

Posted by: popasmoke | October 24, 2008 2:12 PM | Report abuse

"Check it out. New Video of Rep. Bachmann claiming that Muslims are ruining France:

http://liesliesmorelies.blogspot.com/2008/10/bachman-muslims-ruining-france.html"


Wow, that's pretty messed up. And she looks so damn smug while saying all of that garbage.

Posted by: DDAWD | October 24, 2008 2:10 PM | Report abuse

What is FAR more frightening, is the thought of HotHEAD McClueless and Payless in the driver's seat, when the inevitable test occurred. I am less afraid of the test itself than how the elected leaders would respond. From experience, we saw how Bushie responded, "abbbbbba, babbababa, bababa...that's all folks" then proceeded to launch an illegal war that has cost the lives of over a million Iraquis and put us into the current recession we are in, the terrorists are still at large and laughing at us. ( we don't have to look far to see links with terrorists in our leaders. Look no farther than the current administration in the white house.)

Posted by: yard80197 | October 24, 2008 2:09 PM | Report abuse

WHY HASN'T OBAMA CAMPAIGN RUN ADS PAINTING PALIN AS THE RISKY PROSPECT?

• Coasting to the finish line again?


It appears to me that Obama once again is risking a last-minute McCain turnaround by coasting to the finish line.

These ads can and do resonate among certain vacillating independents whose intellect tells them to vote Obama, but whose gut says "Wait, he's 'different.'"

Obama is making a huge mistake by not spelling out the risks posed by the prospect of Sarah Palin handling an international crisis.

They should take this ad and turn it around, with Palin as its focal point, while also noting Biden's foreign policy chops.

Why can't Democrats knife-fight? Turning the other cheek only goes so far...


ARE THE McCAIN-PALIN CROWD AGITATORS THE SAME STORMTROOPERS WHO DO THIS:

http://www.nowpublic.com/world/american-gestapo-state-supported-terrorism-targets-u-s-citizens


WHAT IF McCAIN-PALIN'S STRATEGY IS AIMED NOT JUST AT VOTERS, BUT AT SECURITY FORCES?

http://www.nowpublic.com/world/mccain-palins-fellow-traveler-insinuations-what-if-u-s-security-forces-agree

OR http://members.nowpublic.com/scrivener

Posted by: scrivener50 | October 24, 2008 2:09 PM | Report abuse

If you really want to know what is going on you need to look at this guys website. He is about one of the smartest poll analyzers out there. You have to read the site and not just look at the numbers, Bookmark it for sure. By the way, he has Mccain down to just a 3.7% probability of winning.

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/

Posted by: popasmoke | October 24, 2008 2:06 PM | Report abuse

The end of Biden's speech:

"We do not have the military capacity, nor have we ever, quite frankly, in the last 20 years, to dictate outcomes. It’s so much more important than that. It’s so much more complicated than that. And Barack gets it. I probably shouldn’t have said all this because it dawned on me that the press is here. All kidding aside, these guys have left us in a God-awful place. We have the ability to straighten it out. It’s gonna take a little bit of time, so I ask you to stay with us. Stay with us."

This isn't the first time the RNC has used soundbites to create an illusion of fact, childishly dishonest as it is.

Posted by: 1freethinker1 | October 24, 2008 2:01 PM | Report abuse

This video is just a desperate hail Mary pass from a losing team.

Posted by: snman37922 | October 24, 2008 1:54 PM | Report abuse

Check it out. New Video of Rep. Bachmann claiming that Muslims are ruining France:

http://liesliesmorelies.blogspot.com/2008/10/bachman-muslims-ruining-france.html

Posted by: Snakeheader | October 24, 2008 1:52 PM | Report abuse

Oh yes, we'd be SOO much better off with a reactionary hothead in the White House, who would have had U.S. boots on the ground in Georgia last August if he'd had his way. As if two wars wasn't enough.

Posted by: pdech | October 24, 2008 1:45 PM | Report abuse

I think the appropriate antidote to the McCain ad is to run a video of Sen. Biden's full statement. Paraphrasing Sen Biden: all administrations are tested and it is a time to stand together.
I am not frightened by that.

Posted by: dallasc | October 24, 2008 1:38 PM | Report abuse

I just noticed this is another of those youtube ad's that look like they were made by some kid for for his myspace page. These ad;s are a joke and no one even see them. Obama does buys on prime time TV. Mccain said today they are down to 14 million left. He has about enough left to fuel up the campaign plane.
If any of you remember, Way back when Mccain was on the skids early in his campaign. It was all through miss management by Mccain of the campaign he got in that position in the first place. Now all this time later he still has a campaign that is in a mess. Almost a year and a half and Mccain can't learn ever from his own mistakes. He just keeps making the same mistakes over and over. The man is an idiot. He didn't finish 894 out of 899 in his class because he is smart. He may be one of the stupidest people ever to run for president. As bad as Bush is, my guess he is smarter the Mccain . I know he is a better pilot. Bush flew fighters and was considered a good pilot. Mccain never flew anything moor the training planes that were used in viet nam for short bombing missions. He never lead men in any combat situation because he was not qualified. The highest rank he achieved was Captain. He was a military failure and embarrassment to his family.

Posted by: popasmoke | October 24, 2008 1:37 PM | Report abuse

Speaking of luck...it happens to be a significant area of difference between the two candidates, and one of the main reasons, IMO, why McCain will lose.

Obama doesn't rely upon luck or superstition. Ever. He thinks strategically, works hard, and quietly leads. His ground campaign is masterful.

McCain, on the other hand, is a prisoner of superstition, and has done almost nothing to organize a strategy or ground campaign. He relies solely on luck:

"The candidate himself is the leading shaman. He keeps on his person a lucky compass, a lucky feather, a lucky penny and, at times, a lucky rock. He assigns Weaver to carry his lucky pen--a Zebra Jimnie Gel Rollerball (medium, blue)--at all times. For added luck, he wears his magical L.L. Bean rubber-soled dress shoes.

"I'm wearing my lucky shoes from today till Sunday," McCain says from his bus on Wednesday. At the moment, his pockets contain the compass, feather (from a tribal leader) and penny (flattened, in his wallet). When McCain once misplaced his feather, there was momentary panic in the campaign, until his wife found it in one of his suits. When the compass went missing once, McCain assigned his political director to hunt it down. Weaver found it, and it remains safe, knock wood.

Primary day requires additional rituals. By the time you read this, Steve Dart, McCain's lucky friend, should have arrived in South Carolina from California. He has been present with McCain for every Election Day since McCain first won a seat in Congress. McCain must sleep on a certain side of the bed, particularly before an election (and he never puts a hat on a bed--bad luck). Rain is good for Election Day, as are motion pictures. McCain requires himself to view a movie before the vote is counted. He fell asleep in his hotel room in New Hampshire before he watched a movie on primary day, but his staff didn't panic. "We have superstition fire walls," says Todd Harris, a spokesman.

That's for sure. Even some foods carry special powers. McCain insists that he and his staff eat barbecue--"our lucky food," says Cindy McCain, the candidate's wife--before each debate, sending Wiles out to find ribs or pulled pork even in New Hampshire or Michigan.

McCain's staff and family have embraced their candidate's hocus-pocus. Cindy McCain may well don her lucky purple suit today, and Rick Davis, the campaign chairman, will likely sport his lucky tie, with the state of New Hampshire on it. Murphy should bring out his magic Hawaiian shirt and "the lucky khaki socks with the palm trees." And Weaver may even send for his lucky football ("I save it for the big enchilada," he maintains). But one thing is for sure: Mark Salter, McCain's chief of staff, will not shave his beard, grown during McCain's New Hampshire surge, until the nomination battle is over."


McCain relies upon luck. Obama upon brains, hard work and a wisely chosen team.

McCain's luck is about to end.

America is very lucky indeed.

Posted by: wpost4112 | October 24, 2008 1:33 PM | Report abuse

John McCain is coming here to Colorado Springs today, but it's not a campaign event, and not a fundraiser? The only thing the campaign will say is that he's participating in a roundtable at "a private business."

Now, why would he do that 10 days before the election? Why won't they say what the "private business" is? My guess, he's going Focus on the Family HQ, still trying to make up with James Dobson.

Dobson will probably tell McCain he'll support the ticket if McCain and Palin swap places. McCain just might take him up on it.

Posted by: malis | October 24, 2008 1:31 PM | Report abuse

Army general Colin Powell and over 70 retired generals and admirals have endorsed Obama/Biden '08

Hope and Change backed by strength.

Our World
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlfKdbWwruY

Change we need

Vote Obama/Biden '08

Posted by: cooday | October 24, 2008 1:29 PM | Report abuse

What could be scarier, or riskier, than the prospect of Sarah Palin ever having the possibility of being our president?

Her first priority, what to wear to co-ordinate with the red button her finger would be inches from.

"Sarah Palin & The Secessionists"
http://scootmandubious.blogspot.com/2008/10/sarah-palin-secessionists.html

Posted by: scootmandubious | October 24, 2008 1:29 PM | Report abuse

Every one says Our Economic Fundamentals are not strong reason Bush was elected twice by Voters after Media Chanting

If Obama Elected after Media Chanting, After 4 years America is Weak along with its Economy

Think Mccain, Vote Mccain , Save America. Don't listen to media and parties select the right person needed for th Job thats John Mccain

Posted by: mrn744 | October 24, 2008 1:27 PM | Report abuse

Every new president is tested by an international crisis. Go back into history and look for yourselves.

Joe Lieberman, on Face the Nation in June, told us that the next president "will be tested", and that John McCain is ready.

Is Joe Lieberman more qualified to tell us who is ready for that test than Joe Biden? I say no. You may disagree.

Posted by: cam8 | October 24, 2008 1:27 PM | Report abuse

How disgusting Biden Says Obama isnt ready for President during primaries and joins him for vice presidency

Vote for Honerable experienced visionary the long term senator Mccain whose has most of Qualifications than Obama, Save America dont curse again after 4 years electign Obama as every one curses bush after electing him twice, Think wise think America think Mccain Vote Mccain save America


Posted by: mrn744
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I love your effort, but you have no chance of changing anyones mind on this blog. They have all made up their minds already. Sorry.

Posted by: beaversrus | October 24, 2008 1:26 PM | Report abuse

OBAMA/BIDEN '08!

Posted by: DinahS | October 24, 2008 1:26 PM | Report abuse

So were we not better off with Kennedy crisis and all than with Bush
I will take Obama anyday with a crisis rather tha Bush edition 2 business as usual or worse nightmare Palin
President Palin mull on that as a possibility!
This is just fear mongering
Let us pray the american voter will see thru it

Posted by: tarainfo | October 24, 2008 1:26 PM | Report abuse

After watching John McCain run his campaign, and select Sarah Palin as his running mate, what could be riskier than putting this clueless man in charge.

Whatever McCain might have been, today he flip flops on everything, even George Bush.

To gain the nomination, McCain lavished praise upon Bush, and was in lockstep with him. He, and his mother, I might add, bragged publicly about their support for Bush. But, to win the general election, McCain had to pretend otherwise.

He sold his soul to try and win this election. And everybody knows it.

His final strategy: voter suppression.

http://scootmandubious.blogspot.com/2008/10/gops-remaining-strategy-voter.html

Posted by: scootmandubious | October 24, 2008 1:25 PM | Report abuse

How disgusting Biden Says Obama isnt ready for President during primaries and joins him for vice presidency

Vote for Honerable experienced visionary the long term senator Mccain whose has most of Qualifications than Obama, Save America dont curse again after 4 years electign Obama as every one curses bush after electing him twice, Think wise think America think Mccain Vote Mccain save America

Posted by: mrn744 | October 24, 2008 1:22 PM | Report abuse

"More negative campaigning from John McCain...now the all time king of sleazy campaigning."

I'm an Obama supporter, but I don't find this line of attack particularly unfair. Ayers and Wright are non-issues, but Obama's ability to handle an international crisis is very pertinent. It's not McCain's job to convince people that Obama is up to the challenge. It's his job to do the opposite. I think negative campaigning is ok if it is issue based.

Posted by: DDAWD | October 24, 2008 1:20 PM | Report abuse

Anyone seen "Swiftboat" Corsi lately? His Obama book is probably being sold by the pound already.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | October 24, 2008 1:20 PM | Report abuse

Ridiculous. Doesn't the RNC ever tire of trying to scare folks into voting with them? I mean really, this ad just says "We have pissed the rest of the wold off. How will Obama handle it?" Well he has already spelled that out and named his aides so give it up. The RNC bores me. What else is on?

Posted by: 1freethinker1 | October 24, 2008 1:18 PM | Report abuse

"Luck is unecessary when you have Joe Biden making the closing argument for us. Joe Biden has been a consistent advocate for John McCain ever since the primaries, and he has continued to make the case against Barack Obama"


If that's the case, Joe Biden must be one of the worst salesmen of all time. Obama's numbers keep going up, while McCain's keep going down. If I were McCain, I'd probably ask Joe to shut the hell up, because whatever he's saying, sure ain't helping.

Or maybe you got the story wrong.

Posted by: bsimon1 | October 24, 2008 1:18 PM | Report abuse

"Barack Obama: He hasn't had executive experience. This crisis would be Obama's first crisis. In this chair."

I wonder if the ad goes on to explain what crises McCain has dealt with as an executive. (Note: Being shot down in Vietnam is not an executive crisis.)

It's like they're recycling 2004 ads with new names. It worked in 2004 because Bush had executive experience and Kerry didn't. But going on about executive experience in a race between two senators is just stupid.

Posted by: Blarg | October 24, 2008 1:17 PM | Report abuse

What a pathetic windbag! To chose a blabbering idiot bimbo for VP and then to have a nerve to
call someone else "risky" - that's a lotta houtzpah.
Posted by: VMR1 | October 24, 2008 1:11 PM | Report abuse
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Don't worry, the public gets it. Mccains head will be in a stick on Nov 4. He thought he could play the American people for fools.

Posted by: popasmoke | October 24, 2008 1:16 PM | Report abuse

Ah. I see Proud to be God is back. Thought you'd be busy trying to save your idol Bachmann from certain defeat. Best get to it! The Presidential race is done.

Posted by: wpost4112 | October 24, 2008 1:14 PM | Report abuse

Pencil skirt at Nieman Marcus: $105,000.00
Armani Blazer from Barneys: $45,000.00
Cost to put lipstick on a pig: Clueless!

Posted by: beaversrus | October 24, 2008 1:11 PM | Report abuse

What a pathetic windbag! To chose a blabbering idiot bimbo for VP and then to have a nerve to
call someone else "risky" - that's a lotta houtzpah.

Posted by: VMR1 | October 24, 2008 1:11 PM | Report abuse

Luck is unecessary when you have Joe Biden making the closing argument for us. Joe Biden has been a consistent advocate for John McCain ever since the primaries, and he has continued to make the case against Barack Obama, going on at length about the comparison to JFK, his youth and inexperience, and asks everyone to "remember where they were" when they heard him guarantee a deliberate event designed to test Obama by our enemies within six months.

If McCain were making the case, you liberals would all say it was fearmongering. But since Biden has done it for us, stating plainly and clearly over and over again that something bad will happen if Obama is elected, he really should be congratulated for being so honest.

Posted by: proudtobeGOP | October 24, 2008 1:03 PM | Report abuse
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Biden said Obama has a spine of steel. They just took a quote out of context. It is just another lie. Big Surprise.

Posted by: popasmoke | October 24, 2008 1:09 PM | Report abuse

This was perhaps McCain's best ad. There's still a sizable amount of undecideds who can be swayed by it. Will they? Chris may think he can answer this, but he can't. Did I mention that TANK?

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If this is his best ad, then he is beyomd toast. It is nothing more than a variation of Hillary's 3AM call ad. That did have traction because so few Americans knew Obama. Now they do...and more importantly, they saw how he reacted to the econmic crisis ...maturely, intelligently, calmly...and they saw how McCain reacted...rashly, foolishly, ineffectively.

This ad is only preaching to the choir. McCain needs to woo Independents. This ad won't do that. In fact, it will only remind them of how cooly Obama did react to a real crisis.

Net plus Obama.

Posted by: wpost4112 | October 24, 2008 1:08 PM | Report abuse

$10 Bil a month for Iraq.
$700 Bil bailout
stock market 1989 level
housing prices falling
record jobless in 25 years
record deficit in 60 years
record trade inbalance
record foreclosures in 60 years
record bank failures in 60 years
record homeless Americans
record uninsured Americans
record tax cuts for wealthiest
record oil company profits
record corp executive salaries
4,300 Dead American soldiers from Iraq War
30,600 Wounded American soldiers from Iraq War
Al-Qaida stronger than ever
Intelligence Agencies report America less safe
McCain Bomb Bomb Bomb Iran - A war with Iran

Alan Greenspan: "The worst I've seen in my lifetime and it's not over yet."
Ben Bernanke "If we don't do something right now it may be the worst economic downturn in America's history."
Conservative Pat Buchanan, "you get John McCain in the White House and I do believe we will be at war with Iran"
Conservative Columnist George Will, "I don't trust John McCain."

That's how Bush-McCain is working for me.

Posted by: kkrimmer | October 24, 2008 1:06 PM | Report abuse

The funny thing about that ad and all the time it has been repeated is. They don't play the whole quote. He says that what people will find is Obama has a spine of steel. Bidens quote was meant to say that every new president is tested and Obama is very strong.
I love the other quote Palin like to say on the trail that Biden said he would run with Mccain. She neglects to say it was about ten years ago when he said it. The whole Mccain campaign is nothing but lies and the public has figures it out a long time ago. Mccain is finished as is a lot of Republicans.

I voted yesterday and just voted Democrats across the board. I don't even care if the guy I voted against is a great guy. If they are a republican they can go drown themselves as far as I am concerned, I hate them all.

Posted by: popasmoke | October 24, 2008 1:06 PM | Report abuse

That RNC ad is classic. McCain does not have any executive experience! So by the logic of the ad, he's a bad choice too.

Really stupid.

Posted by: MShake | October 24, 2008 1:05 PM | Report abuse

"Senator Clinton failed using the "Obama is inexperienced" message. Why does Sen McCain think he'll have any better luck?"

Luck is unecessary when you have Joe Biden making the closing argument for us. Joe Biden has been a consistent advocate for John McCain ever since the primaries, and he has continued to make the case against Barack Obama, going on at length about the comparison to JFK, his youth and inexperience, and asks everyone to "remember where they were" when they heard him guarantee a deliberate event designed to test Obama by our enemies within six months.

If McCain were making the case, you liberals would all say it was fearmongering. But since Biden has done it for us, stating plainly and clearly over and over again that something bad will happen if Obama is elected, he really should be congratulated for being so honest.

Posted by: proudtobeGOP | October 24, 2008 1:03 PM | Report abuse

RUMORS ABOUT OBAMA'S BIRTH CERTIFICATE, BIRTHPLACE, "REAL" FATHER BURNING UP THE INTERNET...

• Fear and smear, or based in fact?

• Should mainstream media tackle this, or is the subject taboo?

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This belongs in the realm of "Elvis is still alive!"

It's pure crap.

"FactCheck.org staffers have now seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate. We conclude that it meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving U.S. citizenship. Claims that the document lacks a raised seal or a signature are false. We have posted high-resolution photographs of the document as "supporting documents" to this article. Our conclusion: Obama was born in the U.S.A. just as he has always said."

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html

Posted by: wpost4112 | October 24, 2008 1:02 PM | Report abuse

"What you don't say is that your polling numbers are heavily skewed toward Democrats. You don't say this because of that giant TANK surrounding you."

So I never understood the "tank" metaphor.

Are we talking fish tank or military tank?

Posted by: DDAWD | October 24, 2008 1:02 PM | Report abuse

More negative campaigning from John McCain...now the all time king of sleazy campaigning.

10 more days of Bush/McCain. Hallelujah!

Posted by: MarcMyWords | October 24, 2008 1:02 PM | Report abuse

RUMORS ABOUT OBAMA'S BIRTH CERTIFICATE, BIRTHPLACE, "REAL" FATHER BURNING UP THE INTERNET...

• Fear and smear, or based in fact?

• Should mainstream media tackle this, or is the subject taboo?


Now the anti-Obama forces are saying that his natural-born father was Frank Marshall Thomas, the leftist writer-philosopher who befriended Obama when he was a boy growing up in Hawaii.

This theory is being promoted by a guy named Andy Martin, who is claiming that Obama rushed to Hawaii in an attempt to prevent his grandmother from spilling the "truth" in her final days.

Gee, last week the rumor was that he was born in Kenya. Seems the favor of the day has changed.

Is this is a carefully crafted smear campaign which employs real people to concoct a fabricated slander? If someone other than Barack Obama Sr. was Obama's real father, wouldn't this have been exposed long ago? Obama's had blood taken for testing; it seems far-fetched that his true paternity has been kept secret all these years.

I first encountered these rumors while reading the "comments" section of various blogs. As a regular reader of "The Fix," I don't recall seeing this particular rumor here.

Given that we're just 11 days out, it seems no accident that these rumors are starting to surface on mainstream blogs.

At what point do these rumors about Obama's birthplace and paternity become an issue in this election?

Or is raising this subject taboo?

What's your take, Chris?

Posted by: scrivener50 | October 24, 2008 1:01 PM | Report abuse

McCain's problem is that he completely blew apart his credibility on national security issues when he picked the wildly incompetant Sarah Palin as his running mate. No one believes him any more because a person concerned with protecting the U.S. in perilous international situations would never have thought that Palin was qualified to run the country.

Also, Obama's debate performances and in fact his entire two year campaign have shown him to be a remarkably steady, calm, level-headed, and thoughtful leader. These are certainly not qualities anyone would attribute to the increasingly unhinged John McCain.

His erratic campaign, his poor judgment in picking Palin and his campaign staff, his slippery grasp of Middle Eastern culture, history, and geography all confirm the established narrative: McCain is not a trustworthy leader on issues domestic or international.

Posted by: dee5 | October 24, 2008 1:00 PM | Report abuse

What you don't say is that your polling numbers are heavily skewed toward Democrats. You don't say this because of that giant TANK surrounding you.

This was perhaps McCain's best ad. There's still a sizable amount of undecideds who can be swayed by it. Will they? Chris may think he can answer this, but he can't. Did I mention that TANK?

The question will be answered on Election Day.

Posted by: info42 | October 24, 2008 12:55 PM | Report abuse

Can't wait for the US to save $10B a month in Iraq to rebuild America. I have been encouraging a new GI Bill...where we reward our returning heroes with 2% 30 year mortgages and fixer-upper loans to go into repossessed housing areas and clean them up. Taking over whole streets with their combat pals living next door and discouraging crime in their neighborhoods!
Maybe I am dreaming!

Posted by: Gegi | October 24, 2008 12:51 PM | Report abuse

THE HIGH COST OF PUTTING LIPSTICK ON A PIG


Ms. Strozzi, who was nominated for an Emmy award for her makeup work on the television show "So You Think You Can


Dance?", was paid $22,800 for the first two weeks of October alone, according to the records. The campaign categorized Ms. Strozzi's payment as "PERSONNEL SVC/EQUIPMENT."

The payment on Oct. 10 made Ms. Strozzi the single highest-paid individual in the campaign for that two-week period. (There were more than two dozen companies that got larger payments than Ms. Strozzi). She easily beat out Mr. Scheunemann, who received $12,500 in the first half of October, and Ms. Wallace, who got $12,000.

Posted by: popasmoke | October 24, 2008 12:48 PM | Report abuse

WHOAAAA! What a SCOOP, Chris!

What's next? Obama as terrorist? I think you are missing the whole point: McCain is flailing, trying the same change your slogan desperation as the Clinton campaign did at the end of their run this year.

Why not try some journalism and find a story that is not on YouTube?

Posted by: bakuninhong | October 24, 2008 12:47 PM | Report abuse

No one is listening anymore. Mccain had his last shot at a big audience in the last debate. Now he is stuck with according to his campaign, only 14 million lift in his fund. He is stuck putting free ad's on youtube no one will ever see. Robocalls that no one is listening to. He may tap out just fueling up his plane. I would suggest anyone dealing with him get paid in advance. Political campaigns are notorious for leaving a lot of debt in their wake. Mccain is done.

He talks about "Joe the plumber" his new hero, who is not a plumber, owes back taxes and is broke. It turns out his name is not what he says and he is wanted in another state. His current identity is false. That bast$rd can't even vote. I wonder if Mccain ever vetts anyone?

Posted by: popasmoke | October 24, 2008 12:41 PM | Report abuse

So we would be better having a war-monger leading the country?

Imagine what would have happened if we would have had someone like McCain as President during the Cuban Missile Crisis.

People said Kennedy was untested and he only guided us through one of the most dangerous times in our country's history.

The military leaders wanted to invade Cuban and hisotry has proven that this would have trigered a nuclear exchange.

Thank God we had an intelligent leader who was capable of engaging in diplomatic efforts to head off a near calamity.

Who out of Obama and McCain do you think would do better under similar circumstances?

My bet is that if McCain were President then, we would probably not be here.

Posted by: gthstonesman | October 24, 2008 12:38 PM | Report abuse

The Last Best Reason to Elect John McCain?

I am sure there are other reasons why we should elect John McCain, If you ask me, his campaign has so far failed to articulate any. But with our economy facing a possible recession or depression, a broken healthcare system, two wars abroad, our power and influence waning, an image to be repaired, impending supreme court appointments, it is too important to elect a president just because he will guarantee a check on power. The next president, if it is Barack Obama, is going to have so much to fix already thanks to the Bush years. With McCain, it will just be a continuation of the last eight years. By any indication, the risks of having an all Democratic Washington for two years far outweighs the risks of continuing the Bush policies and politics for another four years. Supporters of McCain need to have more faith in our founding fathers and American democracy -our system has a way of self-correction. If Democrats get too cocky, they too will be out of office faster than the Newt Gingrich and Republican takeover in 1996 after Bill Clinton took office.

http://askaboutpolitics.blogspot.com/2008/10/last-best-reason-to-elect-john-mccain.html

Posted by: askaboutpolitics | October 24, 2008 12:37 PM | Report abuse

"Are investor concerns about an Obama presidency influencing the stock market?"

Nope.

Next question.

Posted by: bsimon1 | October 24, 2008 12:33 PM | Report abuse

Poor Republicans! Getting more and more hysterical! Shall we have therapists waiting to meet with you after you lose in 11 days? Will you be suffering from PTSD?

Poor babies.

Get used to it.

That black liberal socialist commie pinko anarchist leninist maoist trotskyite share the wealth muslim islamo fascist terrorist friend of terrorists reader of Malcolm X celebrity harvard grad chicago pol elitist drug dealing disciple of Rev Wright hater of America born in kenya is gonna be President of the United States of Ameerica!

Oh Happy Day!!

(did I leave anything out? Oh yeah. RISKY))

Posted by: toritto | October 24, 2008 12:32 PM | Report abuse

And by "influencing" I mean "eviscerating."

The only thing that needs eviscerating is the Republican party...

Investor concern has more to do with the fact that the house of cards orchestrated by Bush's poor policies is collapsing..

Posted by: RickJ | October 24, 2008 12:30 PM | Report abuse

Does Senator McCain learn nothing from others? Senator Clinton failed using the "Obama is inexperienced" message. Why does Sen McCain think he'll have any better luck?

Posted by: bsimon1 | October 24, 2008 12:30 PM | Report abuse

When a business has a critical problem they make an investigation as to its root cause and devise a solution to prevent the critical problem form happening again. How can you tell the dems are the root cause of the Freddie-Fannie mess? They currently control congress and there is NO investigation into the root cause of the problem.

Posted by: leapin | October 24, 2008 12:28 PM | Report abuse

Are investor concerns about an Obama presidency influencing the stock market? And by "concerns" I mean "existential panic." And by "Obama presidency" I mean "a tax-hiking and regulatory reign of terror." And by "influencing" I mean "eviscerating."

Posted by: king_of_zouk | October 24, 2008 12:25 PM | Report abuse

Too late. The polls show most voters have already decided Obama IS up to the job. This latest of a raft of McCain's changing themes is that we're all wrong and we need to change our minds.

Tough sell. Too tough by half.

Posted by: FlownOver | October 24, 2008 12:14 PM | Report abuse

It's too late for this. Today's news that McCain's campaign spent $22,000 on Palin's make-up in the first 2 weeks of October guarantee that attention will remain focused on the Republican train wreck...

The public has tuned McCain out. He can only seem to run his campaign into the ground. It is a shambles and calls into question any remaining claim he had to leadership qualities. Who would test who, particularly when he's been endorsed by Al Qaeda?

Posted by: RickJ | October 24, 2008 12:14 PM | Report abuse

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