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McCain's Speech: How Did He Do?

John McCain

Republican presidential candidate John McCain accepted his party's nomination for president and delivered a speech focused on reform and patriotism. (AP Photo/Ron Edmonds)

ST. PAUL -- John McCain sought to reclaim the change mantle from Barack Obama in his acceptance speech tonight at the Republican National Convention, casting the choice in the fall presidential election between someone who has brought about reform and someone who simply talks about doing so.

"Again and again I've worked with members of both parties to fix problems that need to be fixed," said McCain. "That's how I will govern as president. I will reach out my hand to anyone to help me get this country moving again. I have that record and the scars to prove it. Senator Obama does not."

Citing his selection of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin as his running mate, McCain insisted the Republican ticket was truly the ticket of change in the coming fall election. "I can't wait to introduce her to Washington," McCain said of Palin. "And let me offer an advance warning to the old, big spending, do nothing, me first, country second Washington crowd: change is coming."

Weaved amid his praise of Palin and his contrasts with Obama, McCain also leaned heavily on his personal story to show attendees in the hall and television viewers the sacrifices he has made for his country.

"I fell in love with my country when I was a prisoner in someone else's," said McCain, adding: "I loved it because it was not just a place but an idea, a cause worth fighting for. I was never the same again. I wasn't my own man anymore. I was my country's."

So, did the speech work for you? Did McCain build on the momentum built by Palin last night? If so, why? If not, why not?

By Chris Cillizza  |  September 4, 2008; 11:10 PM ET
Categories:  Eye on 2008  
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An Independents comments:

I listened to the DNC & the RNC. A lot of good public speakers, McCain's no Obama, Clinton, or Reagan when it comes to public speaking. On the other hand, I could follow him easily, it felt more personal and direct to me.

I like a lot of Obama's approach, he has the charisma to lead people into change. So did FDR. So did the Rev. Dr. King. ...and so did Hitler.

But my problem is this, he is very much a party man and I fear a rubber-stamper for Pelosi & Reed and the resulting Federal dictate forcing all states into allowing all forms of abortion and homosexual marriages. Then what, pedophilic marriage? I would agree the economy and foreign policy are the issues, but my strong, personal objection to abortion remains a barrier.

I was briefly encouraged by McCain's 2000 run before Rove's dirty tricks ala Nixon put and end to that. (I can't help but think McCain would have taken the Clinton administration's intelligence on islamic terrorism more seriously, and not exposed a CIA agent if he'd been President among other things)I confess I might well be a Republican if not for George W. Bush and administration.

Ah, the two party system, what can you do?

Anyways, I think McCain's speech made an effective emotional plea for my vote, I want to "fight with him" but he nuetralized his maverick, "country first" message by selecting Palin, who seems like W. in lipstick to me.

My vote is still in play.

Posted by: IndyRocker | September 9, 2008 1:16 PM | Report abuse

"Stand up for America, where nothing is inevitable."
-John McCain, 9-4-08

With these words Senator McCain stirred the GOP faithful (and truth be told, millions of viewers watching at home) to action while accepting the Republican Presidential nomination.

Clearly these words are true. If they were not true his candidacy, described alternately by some as "doomed" or "foundering", would have ended unfulfilled, but that is not the case. Inevitable? Polls today, and in truth for much of the summer, suggest that Senator Obama's ascenion to our nation's highest office is far from certain, even with the unrelentless and shameful assistance of the mainstream media.

A honorable man gave, perhaps, the finest speech of his career, and certainly of this belabored campaign and yet the libs and those parading as "moderates" complained about the "backdrop" and "the lack of specifics".

This was not a major policy speech. It was comprehensive description of the journey of this man. It was about service above self and how that finding that higher purpose can sustain a lifetime of committment to one's country.

Sadly, the Democrats and their sychophants in the press have worked hard to deconstruct a truly "American" story because it makes Obama's "journey" seem so incomplete.

McCain's campaign is about character. Character formed in the cruscible of suffering, depravation, and isolation. Character that has withstood the tests of both man and time. Today that character matters as much as it ever has.

As a result Obama finds himself at a character deficit when compared to McCain. This is bad enough, but when experience is factored in Mr. Obama simply can't compete realistically with Senator McCain.

While Senator Obama appears to be a decent man and an effective speaker, there is nothing in his background that suggests that he is ready to serve as President.

Certainly a few years in the senate and some years spent as a "community organizer" for ACORN will hardly suffice. Flowery rhetoric and Senator Obama's thin resume might qualify him to provide editorial comments on your local television station, but it hardly qualifies him as Presidential timber.

But we are not supposed to notice this fatal flaw. Like the boy with his fingers in the dike, Democrats and the press have pressed there fingers into their ears and closed their eyes. Unlike the little boy these desperate politicos plug their holes not for fear that something will get out, but rather so that something does not get in: the truth.

McCain's POW experience, Military experience, or congressional and senatorial experience, are not, if taken as single pieces, sufficent to provide suitable training for the presidency. But the sum is greater than the individual parts and when combined they provide such a rich and deep wealth of experience it is almost (are you listening liberals?) impossible to deny his fitness to serve.

Mr. Mccain's campaign is truly about love of country and the untiring belief in the ideals of this great country. The election will allow voters to choose between a man who believes this country is fundamentally flawed and incapable of greatness and another who knows that our greatest days are ahead of us because of the strength of our people (both Republican and Democrat).

Mr. McCain's is the real message of hope.

Posted by: Steve Piccirillo | September 9, 2008 1:46 AM | Report abuse

McCain's RNC acceptance speech was as all McCain speeches are, FLACID. They should send copies of that speech to drug rehab centers all over the country to help recovering meth addicts get a full nights sleep. I have a question for all, why is McCain running for president? He is 72 years old, war hero, respected senator, multi-millionaire? Retire bro. It's been one, you had a great run. Let someone fresh blood get in the white house. Travel, spend time with your family, make love to your white-haired wife on piles of cash. There is something disturbing about his intentions to me. This is not to say that all these candidate aren't egomaniacs, they are. I think he needs to reign his in a little bit.

Posted by: wallyhologram | September 8, 2008 1:56 PM | Report abuse

Getting back to the subject of his speech...I felt his speech was very good and very inspirational. It was very tasteful and to the point.

I found it amusing that a liberal called into a radio talk show and complained that McCain's speech was a list of "things I will do"...uh, isn't that what this is for? Then I hear Obama say McCain's speech didn't give any indication of the things he would change. He also said that McCain didn't address the problems that the Americans are facing...yet McCain specifically named at least 3 families and their struggles. So, did he actually listen to the speech or did he just rely on one of his "advisors" to tell him what was said?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 7, 2008 7:51 PM | Report abuse

I guess Sen. McCain's supporters were at work while Sen. Obama supporters were at Obama conventions looking for hand-outs.

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"Face it Obama is going to win.

I don't understand if the republicans can't even fill the seats of their own convention how they expect to win the vote of the American populace. ..."


Posted by: Ha Ha Ha | September 6, 2008 2:22 PM

Posted by: Reality Check | September 7, 2008 1:53 PM | Report abuse

The reason the Democrats will loose is because they are trying to undemocratically select a president for us. American voters will show the Democrats this type of behavior is a No, No!!

Before this election, who would have predicted that the Democrat party would turn out so undemocratic? UNBELIEVEABLE!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 7, 2008 1:39 PM | Report abuse

If the Dems don't win this election then they should be disbanded completely. But then again, in '04, their comprehensive mismanagement of the last campaign resulted in the first lost by a majority since Bush the elder.

How does a party with more registered voters, a growing base and every celebrity and journalist on their side continue to lose? The answer can only be leadership without a clue. Whoever the political strategists were that put Howard Dean in charge of the DNC shouldn't be running a Walmart, much less the most powerful political party in the world.

Now we're looking at another election where it's sizing up the same way. A dead heat election where the Dems should be winning like Reagan in '84. Unbelievable. Let's just sit back and see how they squander this one.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 7, 2008 2:31 AM | Report abuse

Can anybody tell me how much is Obama paying people for blogging all day and to whom should I contact to??

Posted by: try123 | September 6, 2008 4:58 PM | Report abuse

I guess It doesnt Matter. It wouldnt change my opionion though, I think Sarah Palin Should be the GOP nominee., not McCain. The Republicans are much more excited about palin then mccain., The new most famous person in the world.

This site has the inside scoop about the Palin Dui Secret, http://www.duihelpguide.com Why hasnt the news covered this?

This site has background info on sarah Palin Bio, Pics, Videos, Alot of Polls like how many people actually think that she is attractive? http://www.theveep.com

This site has everything about her scandals, Levi the Boy Friend, what really happen with ebay plane. http://www.hotpres.com

Despite all of this, and her lack of experiance she would probably make a much better president then McCain., Because like Obama she hasnt been corrupted by washington yet.

Posted by: pastor123 | September 6, 2008 4:58 PM | Report abuse

"After 3.5 days of Obama-bashing, McCain comes out and says he's going to reach across the aisle?! How do I believe him?"
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He said he will reach across the aisle-not to the fringe.I think he was targeting moderate democrats like us who supported Hillary.Obama bashing was well deserved.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 6, 2008 2:40 PM | Report abuse

John Sidney McCain on Thursday night described himself as a maverick and an agent of change so why in Gods name has he switched his support in favor of the Bush tax cuts which only help the wealthiest of Americans ie: Big Oil, it is ludicrous to think that John McCain actually believes that if you make $5million a year that your are middle class; come on athletes and CEO's make that money and you rarely hear about them struggling to pay their bills or put food on the table. Furthermore the man actually said that the fundamentals of our economy are strong , for a man that owns seven homes I thought he might realize that people are struggling with their mortgages. Mr. Obama on the other hand would extend tax breaks to the middle class to help pay for things such as education , food and energy bills and buy the way he would actually create a living wage unlike McCain who opposed the last minimum wage increase. So the choices are clear in this election more of the same or change we can truly believe. John McCain is no maverick and I will never support him or anyone who supports him.

Posted by: Chris Douglas | September 6, 2008 2:36 PM | Report abuse

Face it Obama is going to win.

I don't understand if the republicans can't even fill the seats of their own convention how they expect to win the vote of the American populace.

What all those polls don't account for is the youth vote, many of whom have cell phones not landlines, which Obama brought out in record numbers. Yet he is still ahead in those polls of old people with landlines.

Palin has already lost her sparkle and McCain is on his last leg.

No woman with a BA in journalism and 2 stamps on her passport should be second in line for running the country.

Posted by: Ha Ha Ha | September 6, 2008 2:22 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin Should be the GOP nominee!! not McCain. The Republicans are much more excited about palin then mccain., The new most famous person in the world. Uh Oh, Wonder if she is a Muslim too? Or worse, the anti-christ?

This site has the inside scoop about the Palin Dui Secret, http://www.duihelpguide.com Why hasnt the news covered this?

This site has background info on sarah Palin Bio, Pics, Videos, Alot of Polls like how many people actually think that she is attractive? http://www.theveep.com

This site has everything about her scandals, Levi the Boy Friend, what really happen with ebay plane. http://www.hotpres.com

Despite all of this, and her lack of experiance she would probably make a much better president then McCain., Because like Obama she hasnt been corrupted by washington yet.

Posted by: pastor123 | September 6, 2008 11:10 AM | Report abuse

Hey Needtrth- Here's one lie you're spreading- I'll assume the rest are just as carefully researched bozo-
(By the way, John McCain went against his party and Bush and voted AGAINST it!)

Public Citizen on the Cheney- Obama supported 2005 Energy bill

"The Best Energy Bill Corporations Could Buy: Summary of Industry Giveaways in the 2005 Energy Bill


On August 8, 2005, President Bush signed into the law the energy bill; on July 28,the U.S. House of Representatives voted 275 to 156 to approve the energy bill; and on July 29, the U.S. Senate voted 74 to 26 to approve the energy bill.

Since 2001, energy corporations have showered federal politicians with $115 million in campaign contributions—with three-quarters of that amount going to Republicans. This cash helped secure energy companies and their lobbyists exclusive, private access to lawmakers, starting with Vice-President Dick Cheney’s Energy Task Force, whose report provided the foundation of the energy bill passed by Congress and signed by President Bush on August 8.

This energy bill will do nothing to address America’s energy problems; rather, it will make matters worse. The United States is one of the largest producers of energy—for example, we are the third-largest producer of crude oil in the world—so our problem is not that we don’t produce enough energy, but that our rates of consumption are among the highest of all countries. Our economic competitors in Europe and Asia typically use half the energy per person than we do, which helps explain why the United States alone uses 25% of the world’s energy every day. Reflecting the fact that energy companies helped write the legislation, the energy bill lavishes these lucrative corporations with billions of dollars of taxpayer subsidies, while doing little to curb energy demand.

In addition to providing billions of dollars to already wealthy oil, nuclear and coal companies, the energy bill abandons consumers by repealing the Public Utility Holding Company Act (PUHCA), one of the most effective consumer and protection laws governing the power sector. With this law now gone, investment banks, hedge funds, insurance companies and oil companies will now be allowed to own utilities, giving these new corporate owners license to raid the utilities’ guaranteed revenue streams for use in leveraging non-utility acquisitions, opening the door to price-gouging of ratepayers.

Below is a summary of the major components of the energy legislation:

OIL & GAS SUBSIDIES: $6 BILLION
Section 1329
Allows “geological and geophysical” costs associated with oil exploration to be written off faster than present law, costing taxpayers over $1.266 billion from 2007-2015. The provision claims to raise $292 million from 2005-06, and cost taxpayers $1.266 billion from 2007-2015. It originated in the House (there was no such provision in the original Senate bill). Record-high oil prices should provide a sufficient incentive for oil companies like ExxonMobil to drill for more oil without this huge new tax break.

Section 1323
Allows owners of oil refineries to expense 50% of the costs of equipment used to increase the refinery’s capacity by at least 5%, costing taxpayers $842 million from 2006-11 (the estimate claims the provision will actually raise $436 million from 2012-15). This provision was added by the Senate. Record high prices for oil and gasoline, and record profits by refiners like ExxonMobil and Valero should provide all the incentive needed to expand refinery capacity without this huge tax break.

Sections 1325-6
This tax break allows natural gas companies to save $1.035 billion by depreciating their property at a much faster rate. This tax break makes no economic sense, as natural gas prices remain at record high levels, and these high prices—not tax breaks—should be all the incentive the industry needs to invest in gathering and distribution lines.

Section 342
Allows oil companies drilling on public land to pay taxpayers in oil rather than in cash.

Sections 344-345
Waives royalty payments for drilling for some natural gas in the Gulf of Mexico.

Section 346
Waives royalty payments for drilling in offshore Alaska.

Sections 353-4
Waives royalty payments for gas hydrate extraction on the Outer Continental Shelf and public land in Alaska.

Section 383
Allows oil companies drilling in federal land off the coast of a particular state to pay the state 44 cents of every dollar it would have paid to the federal government for the privilege of drilling on federal land.

The royalty-in-kind provisions in this section allow corporations drilling for oil on public land to forgo paying cash royalties to taxpayers. Instead, companies provide an amount of the oil as an in-kind contribution to the federal government. Since federal land supplies one-third of the oil and gas produced in the United States, expansion of this program could have a significant impact on the federal treasury.

This proposal has its origins in Bush’s National Energy Policy, which requested that the Secretary of the Interior “explore opportunities for royalty reductions.”

A recent Government Accountability Office (GAO) report, however, criticizes the current royalty-in-kind program, concluding that the government is unable to determine whether taxpayers receive a fair shake from the program. For example, the GAO notes that the pilot program currently “relies upon royalty payors to self-report the amount of oil and gas they produce, the value of this oil and gas, and the cost of transportation and processing that they deduct from royalty payments” (emphasis added). The reporting system caused the GAO to express concern about “the accuracy and reliability of these data.”

Indeed, the industry’s cheerleading for the royalty in-kind program stems from recent court decisions that found U.S. oil companies, equipped with an “honor system” self-reporting system, routinely underreported the volume of oil and natural gas removed from taxpayer land, therefore allowing the companies to cheat the public. By seeking to end cash payments for the privilege of drilling on public land altogether, it appears as though the oil companies are attempting to hedge their losses from the embarrassing court decisions.

In 1998, the Mineral Management Service estimated that similar provisions would cost taxpayers between $140 million and $367 million every year.

There was a vote on April 21 in the House to strike the section providing a suspension of royalty payments for offshore oil and gas production in the Outer Continental Shelf (OCS) in the Gulf of Mexico, but it failed, 227 to 203.

Title IX, Subtitle J
This section would provide $1.5 billion in direct payments to oil and natural gas corporations to drill in deepwater wells. This section is a pet project of Texas Republican and House Majority Leader Tom DeLay. It would designate a private entity, Sugar Land-based Texas Energy Center, as the “program consortium” to dole out taxpayer money to corporations. The Texas Energy Center has strong ties to Tom DeLay, with six different executives (Herbert W. Appel, Jr., Robert C. Brown, III, Philip E. Lewis, Thomas Moccia, Ronald E. Oligney, and Barry Ashlin Williamson) giving a total of $8,000 to DeLay’s campaign since March 2004. In addition, three of the Center’s executives have given a total of $4,500 to President Bush’s 2004 re-election effort.

The Center’s lobbyist is Barry Ashlin Williamson. In 1988, Williamson went to work for the Reagan administration and became principal advisor to the U.S. Secretary of Energy in the creation and formulation of a national energy policy. President George H.W. Bush later chose him to be the U.S. Department Interior’s Director of the Minerals Management Service, which managed oil and gas exploration and production on the nation’s 1.4 billion-acre continent shelf. Williamson then served as Chairman of the Texas Railroad Commission from January 1993 to November 1995.

The Texas Energy Center will play host to The Research Partnership to Secure Energy for America, whose members include Halliburton and Marathon Oil.

OIL & GAS REGULATORY ROLLBACKS
Section 322
Exempts from the Safe Drinking Water Act a coalbed methane drilling technique called “hydraulic fracturing,” a potential polluter of underground drinking water. One of the largest companies employing this technique is Halliburton, for which Vice President Richard Cheney acted as chief executive officer in the 1990s. This exemption would kill lawsuits by Western ranchers who say that drilling for methane gas pollutes groundwater by injecting contaminated fluids underground. Only 16 companies stand to significantly benefit from this exemption from clean water laws: Anadarko, BP, Burlington Resources, ChevronTexaco, ConocoPhillips, Devon Energy, Dominion Resources, EOG Resources, Evergreen Resources, Halliburton, Marathon Oil, Oxbow (Gunnison Energy), Tom Brown, Western Gas Resources, Williams Cos and XTO. These companies gave nearly $15 million to federal candidates—with more than three-quarters of that total going to Republicans. Moreover, the 16 companies spent more than $70 million lobbying Congress.

Section 323
Provides an exemption for oil and gas companies from the Federal Water Pollution Control Act for their construction activities surrounding oil and gas drilling.

Section 311
The section severely limits the ability of local communities and states to have adequate say over the siting of controversial Liquified Natural Gas (LNG) facilities. The section states that the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission (FERC) “shall have the exclusive authority to approve or deny an application for the siting, construction, expansion, or operation of an LNG terminal” under the Natural Gas Act (emphasis added).

The language is clearly aimed at a July 2004 lawsuit filed by the State of California claiming that FERC illegally ruled in March 2004 that states have limited jurisdiction over the permitting and siting of LNG facilities inside their borders. The lawsuit is being closely watched by other states, where officials have expressed alarm about the inability of state and local governments to have adequate input into these projects. LNG projects are particularly controversial because liquefied natural gas is extremely volatile and dangerous. Even if one supports increasing the number of LNG terminals in North America, there is absolutely no justification for limiting the ability of states and local communities to have control over the permitting and siting of these facilities. (See our Liquid Natural Gas section.)

LNG proponents claim that states still can veto LNG projects, as they retain jurisdiction over the facilities under the Coastal Zone Management Act, the Clean Air Act and the Federal Water Pollution Control Act. But these three acts have very limited jurisdiction (for example, LNG facilities don’t really pollute the water or air, so states have no real ability to raise objections under these laws). The broadest possible law is the Natural Gas Act, so it is no surprise that natural gas companies and their allies in Congress pushed to give FERC “exclusive authority” under the one law (Natural Gas Act) with the most sweeping power.

Language added during the conference committee (meaning it wasn’t in either the original House or Senate bills) gives the Department of Defense veto authority over LNG projects proposed near military bases, directing FERC to “enter into a memorandum of understanding with the Secretary of Defense for the purpose of ensuring that [FERC] coordinate and consult with the Secretary of Defense on the siting, construction, expansion, or operation of liquefied natural gas facilities that may affect an active military installation.” FERC is further required to “obtain the concurrence of the Secretary of Defense before authorizing the siting, construction, expansion, or operation of liquefied natural gas facilities affecting the training or activities of an active military installation” (emphasis added).

But a similar proposal in the Senate to provide states with these exact rights now given to the DoD was rejected by a vote of 52 to 45 (a “yea” vote is bad, in that it was a vote to kill, or table, the amendment that would have forced FERC to get the approval of states to permit LNG facilities).

The House also rejected an amendment that would have removed this section entirely, thereby preserving the status quo and allowing the state of California to continue its challenge in federal court (so an “aye” vote is good, as it was to remove the entire LNG section).

Section 357
Authorizes a survey of the oil and natural gas available underwater off the coasts of states. This is the first step in opening these areas to more drilling. There was an amendment to strike this language that failed 52 to 44.

Section 390
Increases the ability to exclude a broad range of oil and gas exploration and drilling activities from public involvement and impact analysis under the National Environmental Policy Act.

Section 381
Limits the ability of states to protect their coastlines from oil and gas exploration by limiting their appeals process under the Coastal Zone Management Act.

Section 369
Mandates that the federal government make available oil shale and tar sands extraction on federal land for oil companies.

COAL SUBSIDIES: $9 BILLION
Section 1307
Provides $1.612 billion in tax credits to invest in new coal power plants.

Section 1309
Provides $1.147 billion in tax breaks for owners of coal power plants to install pollution control equipment.

Section 401
Authorizes the appropriation of $1.8 billion of taxpayer money to help build a new fleet of coal power plants.

Section 421
Authorizes the appropriation of $3 billion of taxpayer money to help build a new fleet of coal power plants.

Section 962
Authorizes activities that will cost $1.137 billion of taxpayer money to help make coal power a cost-competitive source of power generation.

Section 963
Authorizes the appropriation of $90 million to research ways to sequester carbon dioxide emitted from coal power plants.

Section 964
Authorizes activities that will cost $75 million to help develop new coal mining technologies.

Title XVII
Authorizes spending of hundreds of millions of dollars in loan guarantees to build new coal and nuclear power plants. The Senate voted on June 23 by a vote of 76 to 21 to keep this section in the bill.

Section 411
Provides taxpayer-guaranteed loans for a coal project. The most likely beneficiaries of this provision are North Dakota-based Basin Electric Power Cooperative and Ohio-based Nacco Industries. Basin Electric Power Cooperative owns the Great Plains Synfuels facility in Beulah, North Dakota, an alternative fuels plant originally financed mostly by the federal government and later sold to the Cooperative for a fraction of the amount invested in the plant. The plant gasifies lignite coal to produce synthetic natural gas as well as fertilizers and other chemicals. Nacco Industries would benefit from the loan guarantees because it has long-term contracts to supply Basin Electric with lignite from the nearby Freedom Mine, which Nacco owns. In addition, Basin Electric and Nacco Industries co-own the Antelope Valley Station, a coal-fired power plant at the same location as the Great Plains Synfuel Plant and the Freedom Mine. Since 2001, Basin Electric and Nacco Industries have contributed over $100,000 to federal politicians, with contributions evenly split between Republicans (51%) and Democrats (49%).

Section 412
Lends $80 million to the Healy Plant in Alaska to convert an existing “clean coal” plant into a regulator coal plant.

Section 413
Senator Larry Craig, on behalf of Senator Ken Salazar, got Section 413 into the energy bill by unanimous consent on June 23. Corporate lobbyists representing Pacificorp and Xcel recommended the language to Sen. Salazar. While the intended recipient may be Pacificorp and/or Xcel (for unannounced projects), another company qualifying for the loan guarantee is the Medicine Bow Fuel & Power project in Wyoming (the section requires that the project “be located in a western State at an altitude greater than 4,000 feet”) The section explicitly states that “the demonstration project shall not be eligible for Federal loan guarantees”—making the relationship between this section and the very similar-sounding loan guarantee project outlined in Section 1703 a little unclear. Medicine Bow, Wyoming is at an altitude of over 6,500 feet. Medicine Bow is owned by DKRW, a Houston-based firm led by four former Enron executives, including Thomas White. White served as Secretary of the Army from May 2001 to March 2003. Prior to that, he served as vice chairman of one of Enron’s largest divisions, Enron Energy Services (EES).

Under White’s tenure, EES played a major role in the California energy crisis. In 1998, the year he became its vice chairman, EES was America’s 61st largest energy trader. When he left, his division was the 28th largest energy-trading firm in the country. Until March 2001, the trading operations of EES were separate from the rest of Enron’s Wholesale Energy unit—meaning White was responsible for a huge trading operation that played a significant role in California’s energy crisis.

Also, under White’s direction, EES severed at least two large retail contracts in California in January and February 2001 during the height of the energy crisis, which Enron helped create. Based on the evidence on hand, it appears that EES took the power that had been obligated to serve these retail consumers and sold it in the wholesale market where EES could fetch higher prices than it could by continuing to sell power at lower, fixed rates to retail customers. This significant wholesale trading operation, combined with White’s decision to break retail contracts in California, made the division a major player in California’s deregulated wholesale market.

Section 414
The recipient of Section 414, has not yet been identified. The provision authorizes the federal government “to provide loan guarantees for a project to produce energy from a plant using integrated gasification combined cycle technology of at least 400 megawatts in capacity that produces power at competitive rates in deregulated energy generation markets and that does not receive any subsidy (direct or indirect) from ratepayers.”

Section 415
This section provides “loan guarantees for at least 5 petroleum coke gasification projects” which have not been identified.

Section 1703
Subsection (c)(1)(B) describes a project almost exactly the same as what is described in Section 413, except that the demonstration project grant outlined in Section 413 does not allow the recipient to also receive a loan guarantee. So, the most likely recipients are the former Enron executives with DKRW or Xcel Energy.

Subsection (c)(1)(C) provides $800 million in federal loan guarantees to controversial Excelsior Energy for a coal power-generating plant (ConocoPhillips is a partner in the project). The DOE awarded the company a $36 million in October 2004 during an event that appeared to be designed to boost the image of President Bush in Minnesota just weeks before the election.

Subsection (c)(1)(D). There are two general possibilities for the recipient of this federal loan guarantee. One could be Lexington, Kentucky-based EnviRes to build a coal gasification facility to create fuel in East St. Louis, Illinois. The total cost of the project is $254.2 million. EnviRes is a joint venture of three companies, including Triad Research, which is controlled by Robert Addington of AEI Resources, a huge coal conglomerate.

The other possibility is Pennsylvania-based Waste Management & Processors Inc. On October 26, the Bush Administration announced a $100 million grant for a “clean coal” project in the swing state of Pennsylvania, benefiting Waste Management, headed by John Rich. His family and company employees have contributed over $60,000 to candidates for federal office since 2001.

While Waste Management is the lead company on the project, they have teamed up with several other companies: (1) Shell Global Solutions U.S., as gasification technology supplier; (2) Uhde GmbH, a Dortmund, Germany-based global engineering company; (3) Sasol Synfuels International, as liquefaction technology provider; and, (4) Nexant, Inc., as owner’s engineer.

NUCLEAR POWER SUBSIDIES: $12 BILLION
Section 1306
Production tax credit of 1.8-cent for each kilowatt-hour of nuclear-generated electricity from new reactors during the first eight years of operation, costing $5.7 billion in revenue losses to the U.S. Treasury through 2025. Considered one of the most important subsidies by the nuclear industry.

Section 638
Authorization of $2 billion in “risk insurance” to pay the industry for any delays in construction and operation licensing for six new reactors, including delays due to the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission or state agencies, litigation, sabotage or terrorist attacks, or other events. The payments would include interest on loans, operation and maintenance costs, the price of power, and taxes.

Section 951 and Section 952
Authorization of more than $432 million over three years for nuclear energy research and development (R&D), including the Department of Energy's (DOE) Nuclear Power 2010 program to construct new nuclear plants, and its Generation IV program to develop new reactor designs.

Section 951 and Section 953
Authorization of $580 million over three years for DOE’s program for R&D of nuclear reprocessing and transmutation technologies, which reverses the long-standing U.S. policy against irradiated nuclear fuel reprocessing and needlessly augments security and environmental threats.

Section 951 and 954
Authorization of $149.7 million over three years for DOE to invest in human resources and infrastructure in the nuclear sciences and engineering fields through fellowships and visiting scientist programs; student training programs; collaborative research with industry, national laboratories, and universities; upgrading and sharing of research reactors; and technical assistance. This program would further subsidize the nuclear industry and entrench nuclear power research within the university system.

Section 951 and 955
Authorization of $420 million over three years for DOE to develop a plan to improve infrastructure at national laboratories and for nuclear energy R&D, including a plan for the facilities at the Idaho National Laboratory.

Section 951 and 957
Authorization of $18 million over three years for DOE to survey industrial applications of radioactive sources and develop a R&D plan for developing small particle accelerators.

Section 971 and 972
Authorization of $1.1 billion over three years for the Fusion Energy Sciences program for fusion energy R&D. Authorization for DOE to negotiate an agreement for the United States to participate in the ITER (International Fusion Energy Project). Requirement of DOE to submit a plan for a domestic burning plasma experiment if ITER becomes “unlikely or infeasible.” The fusion process requires deuterium and tritium, and would produce low-level radioactive waste.

Section 1001
Requirement of DOE to use 0.9 % of its applied energy R&D budget for matching funds with private partners to promote “promising technologies” for commercial use, which could include nuclear power technologies.

Section 1101
Authorization of $60 million over three years for DOE to give grants to train technical personnel in fields in which a shortage is identified, including the nuclear power industry, which has been very vocal about its shortage of skilled workers.

Title VI, Subtitle C
Authorization of more than $1.25 billion from FY2006 to FY2015 and “such sums as are necessary” from FY2016 to FY2021 for a nuclear plant in Idaho to generate hydrogen fuel, a boondoggle that would make a mockery of clean energy goals.

Section 625
Exemption of construction and operation license applications for new nuclear reactors from an NRC antitrust review.

Title XVII
Unlimited taxpayer-backed loan guarantees for up to 80% of the cost of an “innovative” energy technology project, including building new nuclear power plants. Authorizes “such sums as are necessary,” but if Congress were to appropriate funding for loan guarantees covering six nuclear reactors, this subsidy could potentially cost taxpayers approximately $6 billion (assuming a 50% default rate and construction cost per plant of $2.5 billion, as Congressional Budget Office has estimated).

Title VI, Subtitle A
Reauthorization of the Price-Anderson Act, extending the industry’s liability cap to cover new nuclear power plants built in the next 20 years.

Section 608
Incentives for “modular” reactor designs (such as the pebble bed reactor, which has never been built anywhere in the world) by allowing a combination of smaller reactors to be considered one unit, thus lowering the amount that the nuclear operator is responsible to pay under Price-Anderson.

ELECTRIC POWER SUBSIDIES
Section 1308
Will allow a monopoly electric industry to save $1.239 billion over the next ten years by depreciating property at a much faster rate. This makes no economic sense because current owners of transmission lines qualify for the tax break, meaning that no additional investment to improve reliability is required.

Section 1305
Provides $452 million in tax breaks to owners of transmission lines from 2005-08 (it will raise $471 million from 2009-15) if they sell their lines to anti-consumer Regional Transmission Organizations. These multi-state organizations seek to control transmission for use by power marketers, and not for consumers or reliability.

Section 1311
This is a provision inserted by Senator Max Baucus, and it only benefits one company: Xcel Energy. It will cost taxpayers $134 million from 2006-08 (and claims to raise $81 million from 2009-15, for a net loss to taxpayers of $53 million). This allows Xcel to get tax credits for transmission and pollution control investments the company had already been required to make and was already planning on making.

OTHER INDUSTRY BENEFITS IN ELECTRICITY TITLE
Section 1221: Siting of Interstate Electric Transmission Facilities
Overturns nearly a century of local control over the siting of electric transmission lines. It authorizes the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission (FERC) to overrule local and state governments in the siting of transmission lines and allows such projects to acquire rights-of-way through eminent domain. The section also authorizes the FERC to issue a permit for a facility if a state takes longer than one year to review the application, or if a state places certain conditions on the permit for approval.

Section 1241: Transmission Rate Reform
Allows a monopoly industry—transmission line owners—to charge consumers more by replacing cost-of-service ratemaking with incentive-based rate making. But cash “incentives” are meaningless in an inherently monopolistic industry like transmission. Rather than improve reliability (as is its stated purpose), this incentive-based ratemaking will simply act as a tax increase on consumers—with consumers receiving no guarantee that the higher rates they will be paying will lead to better service. This rate increase on consumers will be charged not only by builders of new transmission lines, but owners of existing lines will be able to now pass on higher rates for routine maintenance and operation costs. The August 2003 blackout was caused not by inadequate transmission line capacity but by poor management...


Posted by: Scott | September 6, 2008 10:48 AM | Report abuse

"Obama had 38 MILLION viewers for his acceptance speech. Any guesses on what McCain will pull in?

If you go by past examples, McCain will be lucky to get 2 Million people to tune in.

Posted by: Tim | September 4, 2008 4:13 PM"
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THIRTY NINE MILLION TIM!!!!!!

Hey Camp Obama- Keep underestimating McCain- Your candidate's novelty has worn off- Palin's hasn't and her presence on the ticket merely highlights Obama's realtive inexperience (you know, executive- he's running to be the next Warren Harding)....makes people feel that they should be debating as VP candidates, while the adults top the ticket....by the way, who IS running for dem. VP?.....
Oh, yeah Joe Biden, who's newest gaff is really sleazy- he's on the trail looking for sympathy by telling audiences that the truck driver involved in his family's fatal accident was driving drunk: the man was tested at the time and was exonerated of alcohol, drugs, and all wrongdoing. The man's family and a superior court judge in Delaware who was the ADA on the case are speaking out against Biden....keep it up Joe- I'm glad You'll be debating Palin!!!

Posted by: Scott | September 6, 2008 10:35 AM | Report abuse

Obama says he wants to help the little people.

Is there any instance where he has said, “here, the government has too much power, or has overstepped”?
Is there any instance where he has said, “Here, these people should just be freer to do as they see fit”?
Has he ever said, “This family was very successful. The parents came here as immigrants, created this local business, have several (or many) employees and are now wealthy and upstanding members of the community. They are a source of strength and constant renewal for America. They had the courage to come here only with the clothes in their suitcase, and they deserve their good fortune”?

No. In every instance, for Obama, it is We The People who have overstepped our bounds, and “the government requires a strong hand to make sure wealth is distributed fairly”. There, doctors have set up an office which needed, but they are “making money”. There, a corporation has increased employment and supplied goods that make possible new neighborhoods of families, but that corporation “needs to pay its fair share”.

As for the family of immigrants, when they were poor, if they would be willing to be supplicants, to be dependent on the Democratic Party, then they would be deemed supporters. But they chose to be free and independent, to fulfill their potential and create the best future for their family they could. Therefore to the Democratic Party they have become the enemy.

Vote for McCain, vote to be free.

Posted by: Peter | September 6, 2008 10:29 AM | Report abuse

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601070&sid=aq2VGWWcGVpc&refer=home
Once again,McCain proved that he doesnt need grandiose movie settings, bling-bling or animated speeches to reach American’s hearts and souls.I am in owe to the hero he actually is.Bravo!

Posted by: SS | September 6, 2008 9:08 AM | Report abuse

The speech was an utter failure, on the evidence, because it simply resonated with voters in accordance with there currently held beliefs. Dems thought it was empty, so won't be even remotely tempted to change. Republicans heard what they wanted to hear, and won't change. The center heard blather, and will react to other forces. Meanwhile the economy spoke loud and clear: yet another collection of bad news, which Dana Perino addressed by supposing that Economists actually exist somewhere.

John won't be permitted to distance himself from George, by the Republicans he ought to be able to count on anyway, any more than by the democrats who can, just to vary the tune, hang Herbert Hoover on the Republicans.

When the Recession becomes official, in early October, and another 100,000 Americans lose their jobs, John loses everybody who didn't really love this speech, the election, and his last shred of credibility. He will retire from the Senate within a couple of months, the Dems will get Arizona's other seat, and the Republican Disaster will be complete.

Posted by: ceflynline@msn.com | September 6, 2008 9:07 AM | Report abuse

It was the worst political speech in History or close to it. The entire RNC was an INSULT to the American people.

Posted by: James in Oregon | September 6, 2008 4:59 AM | Report abuse

HOW DID HE DO??? A MORE APPROPRIATE TITLE FOR THIS ARTICLE WOULD'VE BEEN 'WHY DOES JOHN MCCAIN CONTINUE TO ENGAGE OUR AMERICAN INTELLIGENCE WITH 'LIES, FEARS, AND SMEAR'S?

Here's FACTCHECK.ORG's take on MCcAINS ACCEPTANCE DIATIRBE....FactChecking McCain
September 5, 2008
He made some flubs in accepting the nomination.
Summary
We checked the accuracy of McCain’s speech accepting the Republican nomination and noted the following:

McCain claimed that Obama’s health care plan would "force small businesses to cut jobs" and would put "a bureaucrat ... between you and your doctor." In fact, the plan exempts small businesses, and those who have insurance now could keep the coverage they have.


McCain attacked Obama for voting for "corporate welfare" for oil companies. In fact, the bill Obama voted for raised taxes on oil companies by $300 million over 11 years while providing $5.8 billion in subsidies for renewable energy, energy efficiency and alternative fuels.


McCain said oil imports send "$700 billion a year to countries that don't like us very much." But the U.S. is on track to import a total of only $536 billion worth of oil at current prices, and close to a third of that comes from Canada, Mexico and the United Kingdom.


He promised to increase use of "wind, tide [and] solar" energy, though his actual energy plan contains no new money for renewable energy. He has said elsewhere that renewable sources won’t produce as much as people think.


He called for "reducing government spending and getting rid of failed programs," but as in the past failed to cite a single program that he would eliminate or reduce.


He said Obama would "close" markets to trade. In fact, Obama, though he once said he wanted to "renegotiate" the North American Free Trade Agreement, now says he simply wants to try to strengthen environmental and labor provisions in it.

Analysis
Sen. John McCain's acceptance speech to the Republican National Convention in Minneapolis-St. Paul on Sept. 4 was couched more in generalities than in specifics, offering fewer factual claims to check than we found in other speeches to the gathering. But we found some instances where the nominee strained the truth.


Insurance Claims


McCain mischaracterized Obama’s health care plan:

McCain: His plan will force small businesses to cut jobs, reduce wages, and force families into a government run health care system where a bureaucrat stands between you and your doctor.

The claim that “small businesses” would have to “cut jobs, reduce wages,” runs counter to Obama’s actual proposal. Obama’s plan would require businesses to contribute to the cost of insurance for employees or pay some unspecified amount into a new public plan. But his proposal specifically says, “Small businesses will be exempt from this requirement.” And it offers additional help to small businesses that want to provide health care in the form of a refundable tax credit of up to half the cost of premiums. We’ll note that neither man has defined what exactly a “small business” is.

Furthermore, Obama’s plan wouldn’t “force” families into a “government-run health care system.” His plan mandates that children have coverage; there’s no mandate for adults. People can keep the health insurance they have now or chose from private plans, or opt for a new public plan that will offer coverage similar to what members of Congress have. Obama would also expand Medicaid and the State Children’s Health Insurance Program. His plan certainly expands government-offered insurance – and McCain’s doesn’t – but it’s not a solely government-run plan, as McCain implied. And if Obama's public plan turns out to be similar to what federal employees have, as he says it would be, we're not sure how "a bureaucrat" would stand "between you and your doctor." The possible exception would be persons covered by Medicaid or SCHIP.

McCain also made this boast:

McCain: My health care plan will make it easier for more Americans to find and keep good health care insurance.

Fair enough. But McCain's plan wouldn't do nearly as well as Obama's. One comparison, by the nonpartisan Urban-Brookings Tax Policy Center, finds Obama’s would reduce the uninsured by 18 million people in its first year, compared with a 1 million reduction under McCain’s plan. TPC made various assumptions about the plans to fill in details each proposal lacks, so those numbers aren’t definitive. We await more comparisons from other experts.

Oily Words


McCain attacked Obama for supporting "corporate welfare" for oil companies:

McCain: [I]nstead of freeing ourselves from a dangerous dependence on foreign oil, both parties and Senator Obama passed another corporate welfare bill for oil companies.

The bill McCain is talking about here is the 2005 energy bill, which actually raised taxes on the oil industry a little bit overall – by about $300 million, according to the nonpartisan Congressional Research Service. Meanwhile, McCain himself proposes to cut the corporate rate for all companies – oil included – and that would result in an estimated $4 billion cut for the five largest U.S.-based oil companies, according to the Center for American Progress Action Fund. Obama, on the other hand, is promising that he'll strip oil companies of "tax breaks" to the tune of an amount yet to be determined.

It's true that Obama voted for the 2005 bill. He said he favored the $5.8 billion (over 11 years) that it contained in tax incentives for renewable energy, energy efficiency and alternative fuels. McCain voted against it on the grounds that the $2.6 billion it contained for oil and gas incentives was too much, even though the bill also took away $2.9 billion from the industry, for a net tax increase of $300 million. Describing such a complex measure as "corporate welfare" is misleading.


More Oily Words


We found other exaggerations in McCain’s claims about his plan for energy independence:

McCain: We are going to stop sending $700 billion a year to countries that don't like us very much.

In fact, the U.S. doesn't pay nearly that much for oil from hostile nations. According to the Energy Information Administration, the U.S. imported 4.9 billion barrels of oil in 2007. At today’s prices, that works out to about $536 billion, still a hefty chunk of change, but considerably less than $700 billion. More important, that's what we pay to all exporting nations, not just those that “don’t like us very much.” We note that 32 percent of U.S. oil imports came from Canada, Mexico and the United Kingdom.


Just Wind


McCain also made sweeping claims about green energy that aren't actually backed up by his policy proposals:

McCain: We will attack the problem on every front. ...We will increase the use of wind, tide, solar and natural gas. We will encourage the development and use of flex fuel, hybrid and electric automobiles.

McCain has been quite specific about his proposals to clear the way for building 45 new nuclear power plants, opening offshore areas to oil drilling and spending $2 billion a year for so-called "clean coal" technology. He has also proposed a $300 million prize for developing the first practical plug-in electric car, although General Motors already is working on that and is aiming for delivery of the Chevrolet Volt by 2010, prize or no prize. McCain has also proposed a $5,000 tax credit for consumers who purchase zero emission vehicles

But when it comes to power from wind and tide, McCain's words are blowing in the breeze. His energy plan, which he calls the Lexington Project, proposes no new spending for renewable energy programs. Instead, he proposes to "rationalize the current patchwork of temporary tax credits," but hasn't said what he means by that. As we’ve written before, spokespeople for the wind and solar industries are unsure what this actually means. Finally, we’ll note that McCain himself told supporters at a July town hall meeting that he doesn’t think that renewable energy is likely to be "as much of the solution as some people think." Perhaps not, but if McCain is right his own words are contributing to the public misperception.

Pig in a Poke


McCain repeated his vague promise to make spending cuts:

McCain: Reducing government spending and getting rid of failed programs will let you keep more of your own money to save, spend and invest as you see fit.

McCain has not said which programs he considers to be "failed programs." He thus makes the spending cuts sound less painful than they will be should he fulfill his previously stated promise to balance the federal budget by 2013 while also making all Bush tax cuts permanent and adding new cuts of his own. McCain repeated his promise to eliminate "earmarks" from federal spending bills, saying "the first big-spending pork-barrel earmark bill that comes across my desk, I will veto it." That drew applause, but the fact is that earmarks amount to only $16.9 billion in the current fiscal year, according to the Office of Management and Budget. Meanwhile, the deficit is expected to be more than $200 billion in 2009. And McCain's tax cuts will add billions more to future deficits unless offset by spending cuts, which he so far has not been willing to identify. What would he cut?

A McCain adviser, former CBO chairman Douglas Holtz-Eakin, has said that McCain "will provide the leadership to achieve bipartisan spending restraint" and "will perform a comprehensive review of all programs, projects and activities of the federal government" to find programs to cut or eliminate. But that, of course, will come after people have cast their votes.


Trade Talk


McCain said, “I will open new markets to our goods and services. My opponent will close them."

McCain may be alluding to Obama’s threat earlier this year to pull out of the North American Free Trade Agreement if Mexico and Canada won't open the deal to renegotiation. Obama said at a Democratic primary debate in Cleveland in February:

Obama, Feb. 26: I will make sure that we renegotiate. … I think we should use the hammer of a potential opt-out as leverage to ensure that we actually get labor and environmental standards that are enforced.
But that's far from a threat to "close" markets to U.S. exports.

An expert from a pro-trade group agrees. “It's a stretch to take the heated comment from the Cleveland debate to pull out of NAFTA if it wasn't revised as indicative of a protectionist policy,” Jeffrey Schott, a senior fellow and trade expert at the Peterson Institute for International Economics, told FactCheck.org. “In any event, the position on NAFTA has since been clarified."

In fact, Obama has said he thinks it's unwise to repeal the trade deal, because to do so "would actually result in more job loss ... than job gains." And in a June interview with Fortune magazine, he stated that he didn’t plan on pulling out of NAFTA. "Sometimes during campaigns the rhetoric gets overheated and amplified," he said.

It's true that McCain has been a stronger advocate of free trade agreements than Obama, who supported the trade deal with Oman in 2006 and one with Peru in 2007 but opposed the one with Central America and another with Colombia. But saying he would "close" markets is nonsense.


Planet Plans


Finally, we note that McCain and the Republican delegates applied a different standard to the Republican nominee's lofty rhetoric than they did to Obama's.

McCain drew applause with this line:

McCain: We must use all resources and develop all technologies necessary to rescue our economy from the damage caused by rising oil prices and restore the health of our planet.

The previous evening, however, McCain's running mate, Gov. Sarah Palin of Alaska, ridiculed Obama for using similar high-sounding words:

Palin, Sept. 3: What does he actually seek to accomplish after he's done turning back the waters and healing the planet?

That crack drew jeers and laughter. Perhaps Republicans see a distinction between "healing the planet" and "restor[ing] the health of our planet," but it escapes us.

–by Brooks Jackson, with Viveca Novak, Lori Robertson, Joe Miller and Emi Kolawole
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Office of Management and Budget. "FY 2008 Appropriations Earmarks Summary," 28 January 2008.

Congressional Budget Office. "CBO's Baseline Budget Projections," March 2008.

Congressional Research Service. Oil and Gas Tax Subsidies: Current Status and Analysis. Washington: GPO, 2007.

"The Lexington Project." JohnMcCain.com, accessed 5 Sept. 2008.

"U.S. Imports by Country of Origin." U.S. Energy Information Administration, accessed 5 Sept. 2008.

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Tapper, Jake. "Obama Knocks Clinton, but Wouldn't Ax NAFTA." ABC News, 24 Feb. 2008.

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Posted by: needtrth | September 6, 2008 3:49 AM | Report abuse

Worst. Political. Speech. Ever.

Ever.

Posted by: Music Lover | September 6, 2008 2:24 AM | Report abuse

I can't believe how disappointed I was in John McCain's speech! It highlighted for me just how mixed-up the convention was, and how mixed-up this campaign has gotten. After 3.5 days of Obama-bashing, McCain comes out and says he's going to reach across the aisle?! How do I believe him? How do I trust my own party? John spends the spring and summer questioning Mr. Obama's experience, and then he gives us Sarah Palin?! I'm at the point where I don't think I can trust my own party anymore to deliver what's best for America....

Posted by: Hoover P. | September 6, 2008 1:46 AM | Report abuse

Not Obama but America is going to lose if these two dumb and dumber are elected in November...McCain - 885 from 889 in class...Barracuda Palin needed 5 schools in 6 years finally finish her college education. These two really searched each other long time and now want to take over America once again as their Neo-cons predecessors did 8 years ago. I am just amazed how somebody can say her speech was brilliant when the whole nation knew she was just a puppet to deliver speech. Author was Bushes speechwriter...and I even smelled some touch of criminal named Karl Rove there.
Anyway if these two win then we start to end our speeches by : GOD HELP AMERICA

Posted by: Jarda1 | September 6, 2008 1:29 AM | Report abuse

Mccain/Palin ticket is a joke. She is a pawn in a chess game and she's about to be CHECK MATE ON. How stupid do he think women are? He only chose her to try and pull the H. Clinton supporters (18 mil), they will be lucky to get 20. He really wanted Liberman. His speech was boring, no content to context, all he talked about was being a prisoner of war, which we have heard that a million times. What happen to the issues that concern the american people. I would hate to be a last minute thought. He talked about Washington as if he has never be apart of that tragedy. He has been there for over 26 years and just now starting to talk against it. Sad, Sad,

GO OBAMA/BIDEN 08

Posted by: Tonya Kemp | September 6, 2008 12:42 AM | Report abuse

McCain, I believe, is a phony. McCain said he cared about the country more than himself, yet his choice for VP totally belies this.

There are better candidates to help him run the country, yet he chose a gimmick to try to win over Hillary voters and Bible literalists.

Her views are fringe, far rightwing views shared by few: opposing abortion rights even for victims of rape and incest, opposing contraception, opposing sex education and supporting abstinence education only, supporting teaching Creationism in public schools, not believing global warming is man-made.

As Mayor of Wasala, she asked the city librarian how she could go about banning books that had "inappropriate language” in them.

She fired the police chief for opposing a gun law that she and the NRA, her campaign contributors, supported. She told her city department heads that they needed her permission to talk to reporters.

Citizens in the town tried to organize a recall election against her.

Less than two years into her governorship, she is already embroiled in an investigation about abuse of power: firing a public safety commissioner who did not fire a state trooper who was divorcing her sister.

This is a pattern of behavior that is better called abuse of power than “maverick.”

Although she claims to be against the "bridge to nowhere," she was actually for it when she was campaigning for governorship in 2006. After winning $220 million pork-barrel earmark money from the federal government and winning the governorship, she flip-flopped and scrapped the bridge project and kept the money for other purposes. Yet now she is part of McCain’s campaign,promising to be against pork-barrel spending. I am not to believe anything Palin says. Palin is basically crooked, and by extension, McCain is also seriously questioned. Any presidential candidate who chooses a VP who is unfit to be president is automatically disqualified as a serious contender.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 11:51 PM | Report abuse

Any doubts I had about McCain were resolved as he stood there in front of the huge screen broadcasting Walter Reed MIDDLE SCHOOL!!! The RNC can't even google a simple image of an Army Hospital and NO ONE in the whole place looked up and said, "what the hell is that a picture of? Aren't we supposed to have Walter Reed ARMY HOSPITAL??" Republicans: Incompetence you can believe in!!

Posted by: Jackie | September 5, 2008 11:21 PM | Report abuse

HOW did he do? I would guess that a large font teleprompter, a pretty running mate with boobs, and Depends undergarments all played a role.

At least part of the American voting public is astonishingly shallow and unwilling to put any mental energy into deciding whom to support for president, and that's a shame.

Posted by: Julie Lancaster | September 5, 2008 11:02 PM | Report abuse

A number of McCain supporters writing here have objected to Obama and the Dems pointing out that McCain has voted with Bush 90% of the time. Their retort? Obama and Biden have voted with those dreaded America-hating, whimpy liberals just as often or even more . . . The problem with this argument? Two things:

1) Are any of us to be surprised that McCain voted mostly with HIS party, just as Obama and Biden voted mostly with THEIR party??? If this means anything, it means that they all are (presumably) voting their principles. Personally, I wish more people were willing to find solutions by forging compromise in the CENTER, but that's another argument . . . These guys are all politicians, so don't be surprised if most of their votes are partisan. Duh!!!

2) MUCH MORE IMPORTANTLY, the Democrats can make real hay (read: win the election!) by linking McCain with Bush because it means that McCain, like Bush, is mainly WRONG ON THE ISSUES. I don't care who wins or loses the "who is more partisan" sweepstakes--my own inclination would be to favor the loser in such a sweepstakes. I DO care about policies and political agenda. We have had eight years of inexcusable idiocy, greed, and incompetence, so why in the world would I want to vote for someone who has himself voted with the inexcusably greedy and incompetent idiots?

Posted by: old white male democrat in WV | September 5, 2008 10:50 PM | Report abuse

I can't hear a word John McCain has to say -- all I hear is the fact that he picked a Vice-Presidential candidate who tried to fire a librarian because she refused to ban books. This guy is old and has had 4 rounds with cancer and this is who he picked? Sorry, Palin is too scary for me to risk voting for McCain.

Posted by: Pam | September 5, 2008 10:05 PM | Report abuse

Almost everyone who has posted a comment here: WAKE UP FOLKS. The Dem nominee gas tank is empty. It always has been. Why ? Whole campaign is nothing but bashing current President (which I don't disagree with) - but bashing a rival by making the American people believe that his administration won't be different than the current one. How arrogant and disrespectful, but that's what ya got - because that's all there is. Empty words, and critiques about another human being. Exec experience, Leadership, Decision Making ability - Dem nominee has NONE OF THE ABOVE. He's never managed or run or overseen anything, has he ??? He's conning us in to believing he has exec experience because he manages his own campaign ??? Total B.S. He's hired people to do that. We're talking here about managing an entire country and making decisions that will help us. Here's a guy in his speech last week that clearly offered nothing - except telling the American people that we're not good enough, and shouldn't stand for it, etc. His rival last night gave us much different tones - hope and a belief that we will be better, not criticizing us for not being better. He kicked aside and dumped a rival in his own campaign, and didn't even have any contact with her while deciding on a VP choice. Proper treatment there ? NO. Women, wake up. This is going to be one, possibly last, opportunity to finally break thru the glass ceiling that has hounded you for so long. Lose this chance now to elect a woman to the 2nd highest office in the land, and you've thrown away hundreds of years of progress. I realize you may not agree with her on many issues - but give this team the opportunity to try. That's what they have promised, and that's more than we've heard from anybody else. Otherwise, you're going to let a neophtye who comes off as self entitled, to run this country in to the ground and do nothing but take more $$ out of your pocket and keep the old boy network in tact. American - Women, wake up.

Posted by: steverino | September 5, 2008 9:51 PM | Report abuse

Dear "Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 2:03 AM",

#1 Our military, all of it, is a national asset that deserves an intelligent leader that doesn't leave it unsupported (anytime), in the wrong place, and without allies. If you "listened", you would know that Iraq is not where Bin Laden is. Our military is the best in the entire world. But, our leaders certainly do not know how support them.

#2 The thousands killed in the attacks on the Twin Towers deserved a President - a Commander in Chief- who would get up and take action IMMEDIATELY when a national emergency is occurring. Not sit around for any reason. Further, the Republican majority showed all of the flaws of their "plan" in preparing us against further catastrophes, when Katrina hit New Orleans. The administration was informed, but there was no depth in their planning or response.

#3 The other reference to the military was motivated by McCain's own speech. On the one hand, the suggestion is Education should follow a capitalistic model. Yet, the entire convention appeared to be about how a strong military and militaristic action would solve all of our problems. Yet, our military groups are not capitalistic. Surely, not all Republicans believe that a child and parents should be left to compete on their own for an education? With one of the largest economies in the world, why can aid be sent everywhere on a minute's notice and not to a school down one of our own roads?

#4) How many small towns do you know that could use a million dollars?

#5) The Republican record on this war began a long time ago. Look at our history. Who put missiles in the hands of the people we are now fighting? Reagan, Cheney, and Rumsfeld. Look it up, before you abusively wave a tattered flag in a fellow citizen's face. And you want me to feel "safer" and "better", based on the caricatures presented during the Republican convention. Are you kidding?

#6) Don't talk about cutting taxes while our troops are in battle or while we have injured left to fend for themselves. And don't talk about Freedom when they come home with no support, finding themselves trapped despite their sacrifice.

#7) Indeed, our country is great, despite people like you. It is amazing. Democrats speak of sending a human being to the Moon, while Republicans chant USA (how tribal) and call the rest of the world idiots.

Good luck.

Posted by: ten thoughts + | September 5, 2008 9:33 PM | Report abuse

transientjayhawk:
If you are suggesting that McCain or Bush for that matter support the troops please examine Bushes statements and McCains voting records. The veteran that disrupted McCains speech had it right. He doesn't support GI Bill improvements, increases in bonuses, more support for their families to name a few.

Posted by: Rosewren02 | September 5, 2008 9:01 PM | Report abuse

If you are interested, the troops you talk about support Obama over Mccain 6 to 1


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I'm just a misguided Midwesterner, so brace yourself....
John McCain is going to win this election. And it kind of bugs me that we'll have to listen to the liberals gripe about it for the next four years.

I thought this campaign was going to be about ISSUES and not who could give the best speech.

Two things stood out to me:
1) Giving the power to the parents to decide how to get their child the best education!! The children of this country are put at a disadvantage from the start because they don't live in the right district or the right part of town. It's a DISGRACE!

2)I loved his idea about reforming how we handle unemployment, keep people working - even if its for less pay -- supplement their income and TRAIN them for something better.

I have no doubt the "normal" people of this country - the ones that don't have time to read or write on these stupid blogs - will save the day once again.

Soccer mom for McCain/Palin

You can't support the Troops, if you don't support the misson.

Posted by: transientjayhawk | September 5, 2008 5:37 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 8:37 PM | Report abuse

The speech was boring, but the audience was scary in its lack of diversity. It seems as if, by looking at the lack of African Americans, Hispanic American, Native Americans, and only a few Asian Americans that the speeches were presented to a skewed population. Maybe other groups watch his speech on T.V., but they weren't invited to the party. Makes you wonder if his campaign is going to make any effort to reach out to minorities in a way that Obama was expected to reach out to working class, white people.

Posted by: Bibb | September 5, 2008 7:29 PM | Report abuse

I consider myself an independent and I have issues with both sides, but John McCain is old, obviously out of touch with urban America and seriously irresponsible for appointing an obscure governor from an obscure state who is just as out of touch. The republican party's barrage of attacks on senator's Obama and Biden have been divisive.
There is not very much in the way of substance in the Republican party. The majority of America does not make $200,000 annually nor does the majority have $5 million in the bank. Define the middle class? Ask someone making $30,000 a year and trying to raise a family, pay taxes and have some quality of life by living a borrowed life financed by a bank that is getting outrageous tax cuts.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 7:22 PM | Report abuse

NOTHING! NOTHING, NADA!

Night focused in the independents and undecided voters following a poor strategy passing idea of peace and union. It was a cynical strategy! Therefore penultimate night the convention was full attacks and pathetic scenes...
McCain’s speech was weak and boring following strictly a strategy. It was ready, divided in parts and full pauses giving sleep in all us at home. McCain seemed a wolf pretending to be lamb but ready to eat the sheep laster.
During the speech was very clear for all that McCain used the public to change of matter. He said funning things to stimulate applause or boo of the public, while he looked quickly in his ready speech new topic to speak. Ridiculous!
Speech full contradictions...
McCain said "I've found just the right partner to help me shake up Washington, governor Sarah Palin of Alaska." But in several interviews he said that had just 2 times with Palin in all his life.
How will reform Washington if Palin don’t know the job there? It did I remember the difficulty of Hillary Clinton to introduce Health Care in USA by first time. No sucess!
Any inteligent life knows changes or reforms happen when it is well known. How many times must to wait for changes USA? Of course! Palin does not know anything there.
McCain said: "I fought for the right strategy and more troops in Iraq, when it wasn't a popular thing to do." But he voted all time with Bush and never listened the opinion of the American people. It did sound like other Bush!
"We will drill new wells off shore, and we'll drill then now", McCain said. It seemed like a tranquillizer for lobbyists and big companies of oil, they are crazy to explore the reserves from Alaska.
Then after pathetic scenes, empty speeches and echoes lost in that convention, people from around the world should be doing now the following question: Is there intelligent life on Mars?
Nothing! Nothing, nada! McCain did not show any way for changes, reforms and alternative resources in his speech. Convention was boring again and I lost more one night.

Hugs from Brazil for all conscious citizens!


Posted by: Dalmo | September 5, 2008 6:23 PM | Report abuse

Palin appears to look squeaky clean. But wait until all the DIRT comes out, much sooner than later, unless the maverick and his people have already concealed the dirty truth. Palin pick up a box of DEPENDS while you are getting a tube of bulldog lipstick. McCain/Palin LOSERS!!!

Posted by: chloe | September 5, 2008 6:06 PM | Report abuse

"Seriously where did a newbie like Obama get all of that $$$? From what countries and why? It should have everyone concerned enough to vote against him." -DEMS AGAINST OBAMA-

You are not a Democrat, just a Republican facing a losing battle. You try to divide us but you will fail. Where did Sen. Obama get the money from? That's easy. It's called grassroots. You know, people who actually follow the issues and acknowledge the damage Bush has done to our country. Why don't you ask where McCain gets his? Afraid that if you dig deep enough, you will find big oil?

Posted by: Don't Lie | September 5, 2008 6:04 PM | Report abuse

re: McCain speech/omissions.

Unfortunately, there were a few regrettable omissions in last nights speech.

McCain: "In this country, we believe everyone ... deserves the opportunity to reach their God-given potential ... We're all God's children and we're all Americans."

Too bad he forgot to include all of America's agnostics, atheists, infidels and other assorted non-believers in the statement. An oversight for sure, the omission has undoubtedly caused much anxiety in Pagan circles. Leaving many to wonder if they too will get a chance to "reach" their "potential" in McCain's America?


Posted by: BeerBellyBuddah | September 5, 2008 6:04 PM | Report abuse

This is ridiculous. You all need to vote Democrat because a woman's body is not to be legislated. And blood for oil will become a stain on our soul - not to mention our resources. And the middle class is America's heart and has been suffering for 8 years.

Hamsa

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 6:04 PM | Report abuse

"Seriously where did a newbie like Obama get all of that $$$? From what countries and why? It should have everyone concerned enough to vote against him." -DEMS AGAINST OBAMA-

You are not a Democrat, just a Republican facing a losing battle. You try to divide us but you will fail. Where did Sen. Obama get the money from? That's easy. It's called grassroots. You know, people who actually follow the issues and acknowledge the damage Bush has done to our country. Why don't you ask where McCain gets his? Afraid that if you dig deep enough, you will find big oil?

Posted by: Don't Lie | September 5, 2008 6:04 PM | Report abuse

This is ridiculous. You all need to vote Democrat because a woman's body is not to be legislated. And blood for oil will become a stain on our soul - not to mention our resources. And the middle class is America's heart and has been suffering for 8 years.

Hamsa

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 6:04 PM | Report abuse

I'm just a misguided Midwesterner, so brace yourself....
John McCain is going to win this election. And it kind of bugs me that we'll have to listen to the liberals gripe about it for the next four years.

I thought this campaign was going to be about ISSUES and not who could give the best speech.

Two things stood out to me:
1) Giving the power to the parents to decide how to get their child the best education!! The children of this country are put at a disadvantage from the start because they don't live in the right district or the right part of town. It's a DISGRACE!

2)I loved his idea about reforming how we handle unemployment, keep people working - even if its for less pay -- supplement their income and TRAIN them for something better.

I have no doubt the "normal" people of this country - the ones that don't have time to read or write on these stupid blogs - will save the day once again.

Soccer mom for McCain/Palin

You can't support the Troops, if you don't support the misson.

Posted by: transientjayhawk | September 5, 2008 5:37 PM | Report abuse

The tired old Vietnam story is WAY over done, we hear it every time the guy is mentioned, its the only real " issue" he brings up over and over, by the time he gets done telling the yarn you forget why you started listening in the first place.With all the WHINING that came out of this convention, you think he would have had a little more focus on something in the here and now, not a point in time he experienced 30+ years ago, and has no relevance to his being qualified for the job.
His words allways sound maverick esque, but his record shows a SHOW PONY, he likes to stir it up, make a scene, the quietly go along with his party.John McCain, John Wayne, great Actors, but thats all it is, a big act. Its a little tiring to hear the same lame stump, with no real substance or policy whatsoever.He has said a thousand times all the things he wants to change, all the things that he sees as problematic, but he never has a solution, not even a idea of how to start on a solution besides preaching" if we can reach across the aisle, we can get things done"???? What things, and how.Bush espoused of reaching across the aisle to get things done, and then his cabinet ran to the Oval , shut the door and let no one in.Thats how the GOP has got it done for the past 25 years, how is John going to change an entrenched idealism even the GOP will admit is flawed, but unshakeable

Posted by: Convinced | September 5, 2008 5:27 PM | Report abuse

Once again, a bunch of one sentance paragraphs strung together to sound like a speech. I dont know if its his delivery, or his speechwriters and coaches just cant teach that old dog new tricks??

Any way, it is the same old GOP, with the same lines for the past 20 years: Were gonna change Washington, were gonna stop Big government, were gonna stop spending.If you look at the records of who was in control of what over the past 30 years, the GOP has allways put us into deficits on every front you can calculate.and now . after 8 years of Bush lie's saying "were gonna turn this economy around, Were gonna get those jobs booming here in America" when in fact his policy and procedure has been to borrow globally, and lend globally.We are so deep in debt from the GOP policies, and they will be the policies of Mr. McCain, i dont see how anyone could even think of voting for a Republican this cycle.
McCain and Palin like to spew about going after EARMARKS< Were gonna stop the Insane spending coming out of Washington" if they were able to,and it's really not possible to stop alltogether, most states would be filing BANKRUPTCY in a matter of months.Earmark money, as the McCain camp has called it, is how all those projects you see getting done around a state get funded. You cut off earmarks, try to find a highway you could drive down without a 4x4 or some other form of rough terrain vehicle.Earmarks are the only thing that have kept the Bush administration from spending every single dime they can get their hands on in IRAQ or Afghanistan.More money has been spent on the War in Iraq, and Rebuilding Iraq than this country spent from the end of Vietnam until Bush was elected.

Posted by: mullett | September 5, 2008 5:02 PM | Report abuse

McCain and Bush W share a glaring similarity: both men promoted bipartisanship in their campaign speeches, yet, selected extremest, ultra conservative running mates.

Once elected, Bush W unleashed the wrathful Cheney on our country and the world. Cheney's recklessness destroyed our economy, ballooned our national debt to record levels, increased the number of threats to our national security, and decreased our military readiness. Consequently, I am not given to the music of another republican piedpiper.

Posted by: socalgal | September 5, 2008 4:39 PM | Report abuse

I have read much on this blog about the Dems saying McCain voted 95% of the time with Bush, while their own Obama voted 96% with Liberals. Well, even McCain is now realizing and agreeing that the theme of this election is "change" away from the status quo, in other words, away from Bush; and by definition, while the Liberals are pro-change and seek to protect civil liberties, the Conservatives, on the other hand, seek to preserve established tradition and oppose change. So, what's the argument? If you're tired of the status quo, you should be arguing Liberal.

Posted by: TKI | September 5, 2008 4:36 PM | Report abuse

No content. Plenty of negative comments. Plenty of pats on his own back. No content for the people of the country. Thumbs down on this speech and McCain-Palin. More of the same from the Rove playbook.

Posted by: Mary from Maryland | September 5, 2008 4:23 PM | Report abuse

I watched McCain's speech last night and after about 10 minutes I fell a sleep. I guess that says it all.

Posted by: mitz | September 5, 2008 4:18 PM | Report abuse

I was very moved by the presentation of John McCain's experience as a POW, the images were powerful. It made me realize where he is coming from. The whole thing kind of had an eerie quality of a memorial for someone who had recently passed away, this part of his life gets my sympathy.

How sad that he is not the man that he says he is, as if he is reminiscing about the good old days when he was a strong minded man who stuck to his beliefs.

I actually feel sorry for him, but I cannot vote for him.

or Caribou Barbie.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 4:17 PM | Report abuse

BORING! THAT SPEECH WAS BORING! MCCAIN HAS STOLE BUSH'S POLICIES AND OBAMA'S "CHANGE" SLOGAN! GET YOUR OWN IDEALS MCCAIN! REPUBLICIANS WAKE UP, 8 IS ENOUGH!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 4:14 PM | Report abuse

Anonymous, how much do you get paid and from whom, to be sitting on these pages day after day? Are you a Muslim-Democrat? You have some very peculiar comments - quote -

Let's defeat evil!
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jesus, if he were real, would be appalled. i've read the bible, the current interpretation is laughable. ignorant fools.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 1:23 PM
Do you believe in God or are you a communist? Get a job!

Posted by: fedupwithdems | September 5, 2008 4:08 PM | Report abuse

Just a couple of the things that John would have said, had he actually meant one word of his script:

Ok, people, I truly want to bring down the level of hyper partisanship, so all Republicans are asked to drop the sleaze, like touting the whitey video, and calling my opponent B. Hussien, and all the rest of the hate. Someone has to start acting like reasonable people, and we will start here. (Of course, that would force the Republicans to run on the issues... so fat chance.)

Since we are going to have to work together, I ask my Republican colleagues in Congress to stop the obstructionist behavior. The democrats are the majority party, let them get at least a little of what they feel that they were elected to do, done. The time will come when we are again the Majority, and then we can actuallu try to work with the minority, instead of totally ignoring them while we fight among ourselves.

And all you 527 people with the swift boat attacks, please put them away, and leave them put away. If it takes sleaze like that to get me elected, I would rather not win.

But this is just more empty verbiage. Sarah Palin is the real message, the one that says to the political center, "You exist to get us in power so we can ignore you completely." It is easy to read Palins roaring Wednesday, and Jophn's whispers yesterday. John is window dressing for the Conservatives attempt to hold on to power.

Posted by: ceflynline@msn.com | September 5, 2008 3:52 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: fedupwithdems | September 5, 2008 3:15 PM

Now go back and get all the rest of those "pieces" from the books you are so happy to quote. You repubs love to twist people's words.
Here's the real text from the last one which you say is the most damning...

I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.'
FACT

FULL QUOTE From Audacity of Hope:
"Whenever I appear before immigrant audiences, I can count on some good-natured ribbing from my staff after my speech; according to them, my remarks always follow a three-part structure: "I am your friend," "[Fill in the home country] has been a cradle of civilization," and "You embody the American dream." They're right, my message is simple, for what I've come to understand is that my mere presence before these newly minted Americans serves notice that they matter, that they are voters critical to my success and full-fledged citizens deserving of respect.
"Of course, not all my conversations in immigrant communities follow this easy pattern. In the wake of 9/11, my meetings with Arab and Pakistani Americans, for example, have a more urgent quality, for the stories of detentions and FBI questioning and hard stares from neighbors have shaken their sense of security and belonging. They have been reminded that the history of immigration in this country has a dark underbelly; they need specific assurances that their citizenship really means something, that America has learned the right lessons from the Japanese internments during World War II, and that I will stand with them should the political winds shift in an ugly direction."

In case you don't understand it, it means he will stand by muslim AMERICANS should the US try to do what they did to the Japanese Americans after Pearl Harbor.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Soros Runs British Foreign Office Coup Against U.S. Elections
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by Anton Chaitkin

September 5, 2008--Civilization is in danger from the globalist financial system blowing apart, with the present U.S. administration lurching towards new British-guided war adventures, and the two U.S. Presidential nominees detached from the reality of the crisis and floating towards catastrophe. The Democratic Party, which should lead the way out towards national survival, has been taken over and bound head to foot by a British coup led by Foreign Office agent George Soros.

The billionaire speculator and his London sponsors created the time-bomb regimes on the borders of Russia, that are now detonating a potential world war with Dick Cheney's gleeful encouragement.

With the slimiest money-conduiting political assets inside the United States paralleling those in Georgia and Eastern Europe, George Soros is running an illegal foreign intervention into the U.S. Presidential elections, on behalf of the British Crown.

The world financial system began to visibly disintegrate in summer, 2007. Working people losing their jobs and homes would surely back a Democratic Party committed to defend their lives. The front-running Hillary Clinton could unite a large majority, the lower 80% of income brackets, white, black and Hispanic, behind a return to Frankiln Roosevelt policies and a successful war against the power of British-Wall Street financier axis. London knew she was tough enough to chew and spit out potential opponent Republican rightists who spout populist sophistry.

To destroy these prospects, George Soros has employed a titanic money-channeling apparatus whose operatives are under investigation for wholesale looting, partners of the worst mortgage swindler-bankers. The Soros combination of anonymous financiers and deployable street forces went berserk against Hillary and Bill Clinton. They concentrated on splitting black and white voters, with Soros-owned Democratic chairman Howard Dean and Soros-owned Moveon.org working on severing the remaining ties of the Party to labor voters.

— How the Foreign Agency Works —

The core Soros apparatus inside the U.S., now boasting itself an "alternative" to the ruined Democratic Party, starts at the top with the secretive offshore unregulated hedge funds through which the British have awarded billions to Soros personally — the Caribbean-based Quantum Group of Funds, overseen by Soros Fund Management; and the tax-exempt Open Society Institute, where Soros dispenses $300 million a year to rig the political system.

In that fateful pre-Presidential-race spring and summer of 2007, British imperial strategist Sir Mark Malloch Brown was vice president of both Soros Fund Management and the New York-based Open Society Institute. The Queen made him Baron Malloch-Brown in July, 2007, after he became Prime Minister Gordon Brown's Foreign Office chief for Asia, Africa and the United Nations.

Under Soros management are four core elements functioning as a single integrated foreign agency:

** The Democracy Alliance. a private billionaires' political club founded by Soros in 2004-2005;

** The 2-million-member Service Employees International Union (SEIU), led by Soros servants Andy Stern and Anna Burger. They broke up America's AFL-CIO Labor Federation in 2005, and their clique is under Congressional and federal criminal investigation;

** The Tides Foundation, a tax-exempt channel for political funding ($80 million per year) from anonymous wealthy donors;

** The Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now — ACORN — a vast street-level corps created in the 1970s as a neo-fascist "New Left" control mechanism over the black ghetto, used since 2004 as the primary political agency for Obama campaigns. Built up as a covert grouping of private and tax-exempt entities, ACORN is now imploding from scandals of theft and sleaze.

There is a startling, shameless interlock between the treasuries of these political units, and these relationships deserve careful scrutiny from the Internal Revenue Service, the Federal Election Commission and the Department of Justice.

Drummond Pike is Treasurer of the Democracy Alliance, and permanent chief executive of Tides Foundation.

SEIU Secretary-Treasurer Anna Burger is vice chairman of Democracy Alliance (and chairman of the "Change to Win Federation" which broke millions of members away from the AFL-CIO).

Prior to July, 2008, Wade Rathke was permanent chief executive of ACORN; chairman of the board of the Tides Center, the link between Tides Foundation's anonymous wealthy donors and their targeted "radical politic causes"; and chief executive of the Texas/Louisiana/Arkansas region for SEIU. Rathke quit Tides and quit as ACORN's sole boss after it was revealed that his brother stole $948,000 from the ACORN group's commingled funds. The embezzlement was kept quiet for eight years. In August, 2008, the New York Times exposed a secret arrangement (with $700,000 paid in by Tides chief Drummond Pike) to keep law enforcement away.

— Soros Chooses Obama —

The combination carrying out the present British electoral intervention was put together five years ago.

Barack Obama came under special Soros sponsorship in the 2004 U.S. Senate race, Obama's first successful run for national office. Then a state senator, Obama had been deeply involved for over a decade with the ACORN apparatus that Soros was just then, in 2003-2004, incorporating into his national political machine.

George Soros raised $60,000 for the 2004 Obama U.S. Senate campaign. Obama was reportedly the only candidate with whom Soros met personally (in March) during the 2004 election cycle, and Obama was in Soros' New York home for a July 27 fundraising event.

To put this Soros sponsorship into perspective, note that simultaneously in 2003-2004, Mikhail Saakashvili was installed as Georgia's President thanks to $40 million from Soros for the "Rose Revolution." A few weeks before Soros first met with Obama, Soros, Sir Mark Malloch Brown and Saakashvili held a Switzerland press conference to announce that Soros and the UN Development Progamme which Malloch Brown then headed would be financing the Saakashvili government, paying the prime minister and police salaries. The Georgia Open Society Institute executive director who distributed that Soros money, Alexander Lomaia, is now (in 2008) head of the National Security Council of Georgia and supervised the attack against South Ossetia that brought on the brutal conflict with Russia.

On December 4, 2006, two years after getting into the U.S. Senate, Barack Obama went to Soros' New York office to be interviewed for higher office. Soros then took Obama into a conference room for other, politically subordinate billionaires, to speak with Obama after the Soros approval. With money and connections assured, Obama announced for the Presidency soon afterwards.

Soros put behind the Obama candidacy — and into the savage attacks against Hillary Clinton — his Democracy Alliance and Tides billionaires, with funds passed as legal "bundlers" and otherwise, together with his SEIU and ACORN street-managers.

— London's U.S. Election Squad —

The street units that British Foreign Office agent George Soros is deploying to rig the 2008 election are herded by Rathke's ACORN and the Andy Stern/Anna Burger SEIU leadership, a clique shaped since the 1960s as a covert action project of the London-New York axis. With all its vaunted power, this clique is now in a deepening legal and political crisis.

It began with the methods and networks of Saul Alinsky (1909-1972), the anti-Franklin Roosevelt professional radical employed, through cutouts in Washington and New York, by strategists based at London's Tavistock Clinic and Psychiatric Institute.

Alinsky's 1930s experimental "community organizing" in the Chicago slums at last bore its sick fruit in the post-Kennedy, late 1960s sex/drugs culture, when Alinsky trainees and front groups got financier and government backing to control the poor and divide working people.

This false-flag Community Organizing, leading neighborhoods into militancy around strictly local concerns, was identified as a variant of the earlier Mussolini syndicalist-fascism by Lyndon LaRouche in his 1968 article, "The new left, Local Control and Fascism (Campaigner magazine, Sept. 1968): "Legions of black and white radical judas goats are being bankrolled by the Ford Foundation, the [Office of Economic Opportunity, and other ruling class agencies to spread the gospel of 'community control' in the black ghetto and elsewhere....It is the syndicalist's role as a conscious saboteur of every effort to bridge the ... separation of black and white workers, of workers and students ... which is syndicalism's most poisonous feature ... leading directly to fascism."

In 1972, the Alinsky-trained Washington operative Margery Tabankin and her assistant Drummond Pike took control of Wade Rathke and his then-two-year-old ACORN enterprise. Tabankin and Pike moved Rathke around the country and incorporated him into their Alinskyite arrangement known as ARF, for "Associated Rich Folks"! Among other financiers, the Bagley family, a wing of the London Imperial Tobacco-controlled R.J. Reynolds family, were counterinsurgency projects for lower income people.

It was this Drummond Pike, together with Ms. Tabankin's Bagley sponsors, who created the Tides Foundation in 1976, bringing Wade Rathke in as the first Tides director. Immediately afterwards, Margery Tabankin became Director of the United States federal agency, Volunteers in Service to America. In September, 1977, Tabankin's federal agency paid out $470,475 to supply 80 free organizers to ACORN, enormously expanding its scope. As a Bagley family member chaired the Tides Foundation, and Tabankin herself ran the Bagley family's ARCA Foundation, high-level protection and unaccountable millions of dollars were channeled into the ACORN project.

Government support continued on until, in the Bush-Cheney years of 2003-2006, government grants provided at least $10,035,479 to ACORN (counting only two of Rathke's dozens of operations, ACORN Institute and ACORN Housing Corporation, according to their IRS filings).

The biggest banks, that are now sinking in the global credit meltdown, Bank of America (which ate the toxic Countrywide)), J.P. Morgan Chase and many others, have given ACORN millions. They have officially engaged ACORN as "radical" partners in marketing new mortgages, and as counselors to prior predatory lending victims on How To Cope without touching the bankers' power.

— Obama, and the Crackup —

Barack Obama got into this picture in 1985-1988, directing the Saul Alinsky spin-off, Developing Communities Project, for Chicago slum residents self-help and local-issue confrontations. He went onto the board of the Alinsky-legacy Woods Fund, that had paid for his Project, and then funded ACORN. He ran ACORN's 1992 "Project Vote" Chicago registration drive.

Obama was the lawyer for ACORN's 1995 election law suit against Illinois Governor Jim Edgar; and his law firm ran the 2002-2003 law suit resulting in the Hong Kong and Shanghai Bank (HSBC) paying ACORN huge sums on the pretext that ACORN would counsel predatory lending victims.

For at least the years 1995-2004, according to ACORN officer Toni Foulkes (Social Policy magazine, Winter 2003/Spring 2004), Barack Obama led ACORN training sessions on political power, building up a cadre of ACORN leadership around himself. Alongside the new ACORN overlord, George Soros, ACORN thus employed street forces, paid and volunteer, to win for Obama the 2004 Democratic primary election for U.S. Senator.

On February 22, 2008, an ambiguously-identified "ACORN Political Action Committee" formally endorsed Barack Obama against Hillary Clinton for the Democratic presidential nomination. They were already in action against Clinton in the field, on the Web, on the radio, paying and otherwise herding thousands of operatives in combination with the SEIU and other Soros elements.

The July, 2008 resignation of ACORN chief and SEIU regional boss Wade Rathke in the 2008 embezzlement and cover-up scandal has been followed by other shocks deepening the public disgrace of ACORN and SEIU.

Since ACORN is the Soros/Obama street machine, ACORN's earlier cases of election fraud have now spilled into public view. In 2004, four ACORN employees in Ohio were indicted by a federal grand jury for submitting false voter registration forms. In January, 2005, two Colorado ACORN workers were convicted of submitting false voter registrations. On November 1, 2006, four ACORN employees were indicted in Kansas City, Mo., for voter registration fraud, in part of a national criminal investigation. In 2006, ACORN was investigated for submitting false voter registrations in St. Louis, with 1,492 fraudulent registrations identified. In 2007, five Washington state ACORN workers were sentenced to jail, and ACORN agreed to pay King County $25,000 for investigative costs.

Now the House Education and Labor Committee, chaired by Rep. George Miller (D-Calif.), the U.S. Labor Department, and the U.S. Attorney's office in Los Angeles are each investigating possible criminal misconduct by Tyrone Freeman, the head of the SEIU branch in Los Angeles. The Soros stooges, SEIU President Andy Stern and SEIU/Democracy Alliance official Anna Burger, gave Freeman control of the California section of the union in a power struggle against California-based opponents of their leadership.

Freeman has resigned, and Freeman's former chief of staff, Rickman Jackson, has also left his present post as head of an SEIU local in Michigan. SEIU executive vice president Annelle Grajeda, a top California operative of Stern and Burger, has also stepped down amid separate allegations of illegal payments.

Stern and Burger reorganized their California region in an attempt to crush a rebellion led by Oakland-based SEIU leader Sal Rosselli, who has fought against Stern and Burger's sweetheart deals with anti-patient, anti-worker health-care operators, and dirty arrangements with California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger.

The vast ocean of money flowing through SEIU, ACORN and affiliated Soros agent enterprises, has proved to be a dangerous temptation.

A series in the Los Angeles Times has reported that Tyrone Freeman's local paid almost $178,000 to a video firm owned by Freeman's wife, $16,000 to Freeman's brother-in-law's basketball team, $219,000 to a Freeman's close friend's company, hundreds of thousands (from a union charity) to Freeman's mother-in-law's day-care service, and almost $300,000 to a golf tournament, a steakhouse, a cigar club and a talent agency. Freeman's unopposed 2002 election as an SEIU local president is under investigation, as are complaints of thug tactics against Feeman's members.

Annelle Grajeda, the SEIU's international executive vice president and an aide to President Andy Stern, has left her posts amidst complaints of union payments to her former boyfriend after he ceased being an SEIU officer. Grajeda heads the SEIU's California state council, which runs the union's lobbying efforts with Governor Schwarzenegger and the legislature, and which oversees get-out-the-vote drives overlapping with the entire Soros apparatus.

Desperately counterattacking, Stern and Burger have demanded the rebellious, whistle-blowing Oakland SEIU local be put into receivership, provoking public rallies of the union membership against those operatives who have put the union at the service of London's George Soros.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 3:32 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Spencer | September 5, 2008 1:45 PM

McCain is a maverick. I know that we've all heard the 90% or 95% with Bush stat to try to show that he is not a maverik. However, take a look on the Washington Post Website http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/110/senate/party-voters/. It shows that he voted with the party 88% (almost 90%) of the time, but that ranks him 65th of the 100 sentators in terms of loyalty to party. In prior years, McCain was even more of a maverick Obama is 12th, Biden is 8th. While McCain was not the most away form his party this year (prior years he was even further), he is obviously a lot more willing to work with others across the aisle than Obama. And the issues he did work with Democrats on have been the big issues. If we want a change in partisan politics, we can count on McCain for that change much more than Obama. Both from his speech and his record.

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If I am a Democrat, I sure as hell am HAPPY my DEMOCRATIC senators are voting with their party the last 8 years. HAs anything good come from the Republican party in the last 8 years? I don't think so....

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 3:28 PM | Report abuse

Read Below and ask yourselves, is this REALLY someone we can see as the
President of our great nation!!!!

Below are a few lines from Obama's books; In his words!


From Dreams from My Father: 'I ceased to advertise my mother's race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites.'
From Dreams from My Father : 'I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mother's race.'
From Dreams from My Father: 'There was something about him that made me wary, a little too sure of himself, maybe. And white.'
From Dreams from My Father: 'It remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names.'
From Dreams from My Father: 'I never emulate white men and brown men whose fates didn't speak to my own. It was into my father's image, the black man, son of Africa , that I'd packed all the attributes I sought in myself , the attributes of Martin and Malcolm, DuBois and Mandela.'

And FINALLY the Most Damming one of ALL of them!!!

From Audacity of Hope: 'I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.'

God Save America from this kind of changes!

Posted by: fedupwithdems | September 5, 2008 3:15 PM | Report abuse

Loved it! I'm voting for him.

Posted by: MJ | September 5, 2008 2:59 PM | Report abuse

A Rudy Giuliani sentence - noun, verb, 911
A John McCain sentence - noun, verb, POW

Shame on both of you wrinkly dudes!

Sincerely,

Hillary Rodham Clinton

Posted by: The Franchise | September 5, 2008 2:55 PM | Report abuse

This one didn't make it. No real rapport with struggling listeners (though delegates joined in). No identification of, let alone prescription for the problems McCain says he's going to fix, certainly not personal economic woes. No detail, no specifics, no inspiration beyond saying he loves his country and let's all join in to welcome the change that he's going to lead somewhere and somehow.

Posted by: 2mature2bHornswoggled | September 5, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse

How much change will you get from the Dems?
Obama voted party lines 96%
Biden voted party lines 96.6%
That doesn't sound revolutionary to me.

Posted by: beake71 | September 5, 2008 2:48 PM | Report abuse

A 72-year old career politician is not a maverick.

Posted by: 3rd degree | September 5, 2008 2:36 PM | Report abuse

This is the stupidest speech I ever hear of! McCain is a fake and a phony. The only thing I heard is that he is a POW. Well you better listen up, POW is the sound you will hear when the McCain/Palin bubble pops!

Posted by: The Patriot | September 5, 2008 2:29 PM | Report abuse

Democrats should allow McCain to win this one so that they can elect Clinton in 2012.

That would be the only way to stop the Obama hijacking of the Democratic Party. SeriouslY where did a newbie like Obama get all of that $$$? From what countries and why? It should have everyone concerned enough to vote against him.

Posted by: DEMS AGAINST OBAMA | September 5, 2008 2:19 PM | Report abuse

McCain just proved that he will carry on Dubya's tax policies. He says he doesn't see any rich people unless they have 100 million $'s. That shows that someone that can't remember how many homes he has is far out of touch with the general working class Americans. He wants to continue the tax breaks for the very wealthy. I heard one Republican say that Bush's tax cuts would save him a million dollars and he said the sad thing about that is that he doesn't need it. These turkeys cannot seem to get enough. McCain wants them to get more still. I'll vote for Obama a real down to earth man that can see the problems of the working class. Go Obama!!!

Posted by: spo00f | September 5, 2008 2:14 PM | Report abuse

I have always liked McCain and thought that his RNC acceptance speech was statemanlike. It is not hard to see why he has been popular with his Senate colleagues of both parties.

Had McCain picked a more centrist VP (Ridge, Hegel, Giuliani, Pawlenty), this contest might have been a real horserace. Unfortunately, Palin lives up to her self-billing as a "pit bull with lipstick". Too bad that McCain veered so sharply to the right in selecting his running mate and emphasizing the tired GOP mantras of tax cuts and drilling.

Despite my high regard for McCain, I'll be going with Obama-Biden, who actually seem capable of pursuing fresh ideas.

Posted by: ANetliner | September 5, 2008 2:13 PM | Report abuse

Stop the lies, what a horrid speech. If you think the 8 years of GOP and Bushes + a 26 year "old Washington" politician like McCain is change, you are a victim of smoke and mirrors. McCain himself said he voted with Bush 90% of the time.

Seriously, McCain decided, he would attempt to hijack Senator Obama's true message of change. Isn't that original, he is clearly grasping for a lifeline after a bad judgement pick for VP, who was not vetted, who is under investigation for
abuse of power (old washington).

Senator Obama's grassroots community work, his leadership @ Harvard, his ability to
fight for the little guy as an attorney, shows he is a leader. Not only that, he has been a state Senator for over 8 years and a US Senator for 3 years now and thats above average considering who is President now.

TRUE change has to start exactly where Obama did, in the community. I like his message of change as detailed in the blueprint on his website, and his ability to reach beyond partisan politics to work on solutions to complex problems, (of which we have plenty) resonates with millions. The current Washington, of which McCain votes with 90% of the
time, works for big business, defense contractors and special interests, and tax $$$$$ continue to fly out of our wallets and Republicans like it.

We Democrats now have to FIX the last 8 years, make mends around the world, throw out the cowboy "guns and bombs" failed policies, increase allies, stop generating more enemies to enrich the warmongers and finally, mitigate terror where it originates (Saudi Arabia/Afghanistan)

I believe Senators Obama and Biden can do these things. Read for yourself and stop being ignorant by believing everything your hear on the spin doctors at Fox News.
http://www.barackobama.com/issues/

I do believe its disrespectful for Repubs to keep purpetuating spin/lies, but then
again, that is the true nature of Republicans.

Posted by: StopTheLies | September 5, 2008 2:12 PM | Report abuse

A lot of hateful people and comments on this blog, then I realized it's the same 5 people over and over. I hope you are going in on the night shift, because if you are at home with nothing to do you need to get a job.

Posted by: GTW | September 5, 2008 2:07 PM | Report abuse

I fell out of my chair when McCain said that he "couldn't wait to introduce her [Palin] to Washington." It has been widely reported that she made yearly trips to Washington to lobby for federal dollars.

Posted by: Chuck | September 5, 2008 2:07 PM | Report abuse

McCain's speech got off to a very slow start. But I was truly drawn in by the end. While I knew the basic story of McCain's Vietnam experience, I did not know the details, and the way McCain talked about how his experience changed him into the "country first" leader he is today was very compelling.

The line that stood out to me (and the one that I expected to be on the front page of all the news stories but wasn't anywhere) was the simple "I hate war".

When I finally found the line in the transcript, I realized it was not the line, but the set up and following paragraph that made the line so powerful.

To me, these two paragraphs were the best part of his speech:

"When I was 5 years old, a car pulled up in front of our house. A Navy officer rolled down the window, and shouted at my father that the Japanese had bombed Pearl Harbor. I rarely saw my father again for four years. My grandfather came home from that same war exhausted from the burdens he had borne, and died the next day. In Vietnam, where I formed the closest friendships of my life, some of those friends never came home with me. I hate war. It is terrible beyond imagination.

I'm running for president to keep the country I love safe, and prevent other families from risking their loved ones in war as my family has. I will draw on all my experience with the world and its leaders, and all the tools at our disposal — diplomatic, economic, military and the power of our ideals — to build the foundations for a stable and enduring peace."

Posted by: Paul S. | September 5, 2008 2:06 PM | Report abuse

As a Democrat, I have always liked McCain and I considered voting for McCain after what the Dems did to Clinton and also because that Obama guy did not win the nomination, he stole it with the help of some crooked power hungry DNC honchos. I still like McCain but what was up with that video they showed at the Republican Convention??? (gasp!) it was about Al Qaeda "hating freedom", 911, and fear tactics. It was an insult to my intelligence as I do not respond to fear mongering. It made me realize that as much as I like McCain, I can not stand the Republican Party. So my choice will be to write in Hillary Clintons name on election day. Also at first I liked Palin as his V.P., then I heard that she says "Iraq is god's war". Is that true...? Because that crazy nutty religious wackiness has no place in politics. I can't vote for a V.P. that is insane.

I really like Joe Biden, too bad Obama's ugly visage thwarts votes that would have gone to Biden.

Posted by: Pat | September 5, 2008 1:57 PM | Report abuse

Please! McCain has worked with both sides during his time to try and fix the problems of this country, but yet the problems have only gotten worse. McCain was in the service and a POW, yet in still veterans can't get jobs, medical assistance or help with losing their homes. But yet, McCain cares about you. Did he not say they got themselves in the mortgage mess, they can get themselves out of it; but approved bailing out Bear Stearns and 200 Billion to the banks and still counting. I am an undecided voter. I have voted in the past for Democrat and Republican candidates. I wanted to wait for the debates before I made my decision. Now, while were watching the Republican spectacle, $1 billion dollars was sent to Georgia to assist them after they attached Russia and Russia kicked their butts; but this country has no money to help the Katrina sufferers and the Gustav suffers? They are on their own.

So, after hearing McCain's speech last night, and Palin's insulting and degrading speech Wednesday night, I believe they made my mind up.

Posted by: mcbrown60@hotmail.com | September 5, 2008 1:53 PM | Report abuse

Dear Senator McCain,

Recently I considered supporting your candidacy for president.

I even once prayed for your success in this endeavor.

However, after viewing last night's acceptance speech, I am dismayed at the negativity expressed, both by you, Sen. McCain, and by the audience.

What we need in the White House is tolerance, acceptance, positivity and gratitude, not put-downs. When someone gets involved in their community trying to help the underpriviledged, this deserves support, not derision.

Boos and hisses serve to divide us and put sneers on our faces. Is this what you want for the American people? We deserve and can rise to better than this!

True Americans keep goodwill in their hearts and offer this to the world.

Please remember who you truly are--of course you're not perfect, and noone is or can be--and at the same time we MUST refrain from put-downs and acknowledge the goodwill and good efforts of our brothers and sisters.

You speak of wanting to create a non-partisan environment in Washington--a worthy goal: Please begin NOW during the campaign and encourage the best from your supporters as well as yourself and your running-mate.

Americans in this 3rd millenium have an opportunity to create the world as we want it: with peace, respect, health and prosperity for all. To create this in the world, we must first of all create it in ourselves.

In all sincerity,

Allison Jane Edwards

Posted by: Allison Jane Edwards | September 5, 2008 1:52 PM | Report abuse

Yes, McCain was a POW and still is: a "Piece of Work"... What an old dog in the GOP Establishment. I can't fathom how he can play at being an 'outside voice' on beltway politics when he's been a top insider for a quarter-century. And his pick of Gov. Palin is just as ridiculous. I'm not out to attack her as a bad person or the like but she's been in the Governor's office what, 18 months and attacks Sen. Obama's 'inexperience'? Or does she mean to say, reminding us about it, that her PTA experience is the right kind of experience to deal with Iran and N. Korea?

And what's with all the harkening back to Sept. 11? I don't mean to sound disrespectful to the dead but politicizing the event is a disgrace and sacrilege. It was 7 years ago and we still haven't caught the people responsible, and still the Republicans tout their 'defenders of America' image. So I take it this 9/11 victims lip-service is just the perfunctory GOP fearmongering.

Do Republicans really think Americans are that stupid? I'm a Democrat and I used to like McCain at least. But he's turned out just another Washington-bred, GOP-tested demagogue.

Posted by: Kaz | September 5, 2008 1:52 PM | Report abuse

Dear Senator McCain,

Recently I considered supporting your candidacy for president.

I even once prayed for your success in this endeavor.

However, after viewing last night's acceptance speech, I am dismayed at the negativity expressed, both by you, Sen. McCain, and by the audience.

What we need in the White House is tolerance, acceptance, positivity and gratitude, not put-downs. When someone gets involved in their community trying to help the underpriviledged, this deserves support, not derision.

Boos and hisses serve to divide us and put sneers on our faces. Is this what you want for the American people? We deserve and can rise to better than this!

True Americans keep goodwill in their hearts and offer this to the world.

Please remember who you truly are--of course you're not perfect, and noone is or can be--and at the same time we MUST refrain from put-downs and acknowledge the goodwill and good efforts of our brothers and sisters.

You speak of wanting to create a non-partisan environment in Washington--a worthy goal: Please begin NOW during the campaign and encourage the best from your supporters as well as yourself and your running-mate.

Americans in this 3rd millenium have an opportunity to create the world as we want it: with peace, respect, health and prosperity for all. To create this in the world, we must first of all create it in ourselves.

In all sincerity,

Allison Jane Edwards

Posted by: Allison Jane Edwards | September 5, 2008 1:51 PM | Report abuse

Oh, please - enough of the "I was a proud democrat and am now I'm voting for McCain." It's so transparent.

I could as easily claim I was a proud republican and after listening to the snide, snarky, sarcastic speeches at the republican convention, I'm voting for Obama.

Posted by: Sandy | September 5, 2008 1:51 PM | Report abuse


...Gobama, people like me like people like you, because you are a blazing idiot and easily recognized at a distance ... people like me like it that you protest, like it that you get high, like it that you don't serve in the military, like it that you play video games, like it that you wear baggy pants, like it that you think a pistol is held sideways, like it that you stay out of the way of producers in this country, like it that you don't like us ... because if you did like us, then we would be like you, and that would suck... Hussein is going to get slaughtered in this election, because he is an arrogant elitist ,like you hope to grow up to be, one fine day, when your nuts drop.gch

Posted by: Sgt Higgins | September 5, 2008 1:45 PM | Report abuse

McCain is a maverick. I know that we've all heard the 90% or 95% with Bush stat to try to show that he is not a maverik. However, take a look on the Washington Post Website http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/110/senate/party-voters/. It shows that he voted with the party 88% (almost 90%) of the time, but that ranks him 65th of the 100 sentators in terms of loyalty to party. In prior years, McCain was even more of a maverick Obama is 12th, Biden is 8th. While McCain was not the most away form his party this year (prior years he was even further), he is obviously a lot more willing to work with others across the aisle than Obama. And the issues he did work with Democrats on have been the big issues. If we want a change in partisan politics, we can count on McCain for that change much more than Obama. Both from his speech and his record.

Posted by: Spencer | September 5, 2008 1:45 PM | Report abuse

I am a lifelong democrat. However, after this primary, I took a really hard look at the Democratic party and I also did some serious soul searching. Now, I am a proud Republican.
Senator's McCain's speech was powerful. Yes, it was lengthy but it really touched me to the core. I actually cried listening to his speech. It wasn't just when he described his POW experiences. It was the fact that he challenged me to look within myself to see what I can do for this country. I wasn't born when John F. Kennedy gave his infamous speech in which he said "Ask not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country". But this is what I heard Senator McCain saying to me last night, even if he is not as eloquent of a speaker as JFK or even Obama. I am ready to come join the fight for this great country.

As an African American woman, I tried desperately to find a reason to vote for Senaotr Obama because I am truly proud of his historic nomination. But Dr. King dreamed of a day when we would judge a man NOT by the color of his skin but by the content of his character.
I have no doubt that Senator McCain is seeking the Presidency for the right reason. And more importantly, I have no doubt that he is ready for this moment. I will be proud to cast my vote for McCain/Palin ticket this November.

Posted by: aka-esq | September 5, 2008 1:39 PM | Report abuse

Is the mis-spelling of the word coarse for course by the pro-McCain any worse than using the word beholding for the term beholden? This is the problem with both parties, trivial pursuit. George Washington was right when he said (paraphrase) political parties are one of the biggest dangers to our form of government and freedom. Few in either party vote for the good of the country rather than the good of their party>

Posted by: beake71 | September 5, 2008 1:38 PM | Report abuse

Thinking about it, who the new president is will really not change much. Events abroad will force the appropriate actions from the US. The senate and house GOP and democrats will continue to do what they do best - which is nothing. Justices Stevens and Ginsburg "may" be replaced by someone like them if Obama becomes president (no change in what the supreme court does). If McCain becomes president, he will not be able to replace them with their opposites because he will not have the majority in the senate to do it. At some point of time, the US will drill for more oil. It is inevitable (oil is not a renewable resource and more needs to be found). Similarly, it is inevitable that new energy technologies will slowly enter the mainstream. Healthcare will not work well for everyone - whether it is the Canadian style or the current US style. So what if Obama becomes the president or McCain does? I see no difference whatsoever. No single man can move a mass of 300 million from what it has been doing and what it will continue to do.

Posted by: Snooglix | September 5, 2008 1:36 PM | Report abuse

I thought the speech really shows that McCain was open minded. My view is that both parties are right sometimes and wrong sometimes. I know it's politics, but is still drives me nuts when I see speeches or read posts when one party can do no wrong. McCain was not like that at all. I mean, what candidate bashes his own party in the acceptance speech. Only one who is open minded and realizes that both parties make mistakes. I'm in favor of that

Posted by: Open Minded | September 5, 2008 1:32 PM | Report abuse

The speech was a look at me, I'm a great American because of my service to my country and because I'm a great American I'm the right person to be President. It's unfortunate he spent years as a POW, but so did many others. Every person who has ever served in the military is a great American. Being a great American does not autimatically qualify you to be the leader of America and a world leader. McCain is too militaristic in his thinking and can't see the consequences of prolonged military engagements on the American people and our economy.

There was no substance to the speech. Thre were no details on how he would change things. He still continues to lie about Obama, saying Obama will raise taxes on the middle class. He said the social programs were designed in the 50s and need to be changed but did not say how they should be changed. This begs the question of whether he will change them or eliminate them?

Why do Republicans feel they are the only patriotic Americans and that Democrats don't love America? Why do they put their pro life values before anything else, instead of putting the welfare of living Americans first? Why don't they worry about the society and the world that babies are being brought into, after all what kind of life can these babies expect if the infrastructure of their society isn't secure, when they may be born into a life without health care, with limited opportunities for a good education, and a bleak economic future? But then I guess it's his way of getting them to join the military without having to impose a draft, because in his view he knows good and evil and would have our military deal with evil - so this calls for a really large military, rather then through dialogue or diplomacy.

You don't win over the hearts and minds of other nations who disagree with you by military might. It alienates Americans from nations that have been our allies.

Republicans imply that losing the war in Iraq will not ensure America's safety. They said the same thing about the Viet Nam war. We lost, but look we were safe from communism. Today's war is against terrorist organizations, not terrorist countries. Terrorists organizations are located all around the globe. It's a different type of war that McCain doesn't have the right vision to fight. It's not the same type of war that he fought in and you can't use the tactics that worked in the previous wars.

Posted by: nevadaandy | September 5, 2008 1:32 PM | Report abuse

Too be honest with you I tried so many times to listen to McCain speak and I just can't for the life of me understand what he's talking about. His speech was flat and had no substance. He didn't outline the issues and what policies he stands for. He plays too much on people's smpthomy about him being a POW. My father served in the Navy and he never talked about it so much as McCain. I think too much focus was on that. I only caught the ending of his speech because I got bored listening to him. If I where to grade him it would give him a D- or F+ he failed miserably.

Palin I would give her a C- she talked too much about her family and she lied about the bridge to nowhere. She is using her hockey mom image to get women voters. She didn't outline any of McCain's issues. She just proved that she is apart of President Bush and McCain's erra.

Posted by: Jacie - San Leandro, Ca | September 5, 2008 1:31 PM | Report abuse

U.S. Attacks on Pakistani Territory Continue
Increase Decrease

September 5, 2008 (LPAC)--The inability of the George Bush adminstration to learn from its own strategic errors--such as the support for the British-led toppling of the Musharaf government in Pakistan--was demonstrated again today. A drone deployed by the U.S.-led ISAF forces in Afghanistan, fired several missiles into Pakistani territory today, in North Waziristan. The missiles hit a house, reportedly killing at least three children and wounding several women, according to local television reports. Some reports are saying that those killed were Talibani militants, and Army spokesman Major-General Athar Abbas said they are investigating the incidents.

As Lyndon LaRouche pointed out yesterday, the destabilization of Pakistan is the key British target at this time. Internal Pakistani reports are emphasizing the killing of civilians, and the entire situation is further isolating the Pakistani Army, a key national institution, and fostering internal dissension.

This strike was the third in three days on the Pakistani area bordering Afghanistan, following the raid on Sept. 3 conducted by U.S. forces, in which some 15-20 were killed. That attack was severely condemned by the Pakistani government and Parliament. Yesterday, another drone attack reportedly killed five militants in Pakistan

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 1:29 PM | Report abuse

I agree with you Travis:

"Was this speech fantastic? A dazzling display of oratorical skill? No, of course not and everyone new that would be the case going in. But one thing is clear from watching both speeches: McCain is for America and Obama is full of himself. Neither speech gave any specifics, or has everyone including the media forgotten Obama's already? Yes it was flashier but it was just as empty of detail. The thing that McCain's speech had that Obama's clearly lacked was humility. Obama is a vapid arrogant talking head who is so liberal that he will not be able to reach across party lines because of his very extremism."

I would love to see an African American, like Colin Powell, take the Presidency. He has character, poise, wisdom, experience and so forth. But I do question Obama's love for this country. I'm SCARED of where he'll take us under his leadership and he certainly isn't telling us what his plans are either though he accuses McCain of not detailing his plans. It's hypocritical.

Posted by: Kim D. | September 5, 2008 1:24 PM | Report abuse

After 20 some mentions of John McCain's POW experience last night I gave up counting. All my uncles and my father served in our U.S. military during World War II. Two of them were POWs and I only heard one of them, Uncle Mike, mention his POW experience briefly. I think my father's generation rightly didn't try to capitalize on their war service for personal gain.

Posted by: Tim J., Chicago | September 5, 2008 1:24 PM | Report abuse

America has a real chance to turn the page and regain our past role as an inspiring world leader.

Or we can continue to ignore the world, focus inward, fight, fight, fight and drill, drill, drill. Sounds all too familiar to me.

Shame on us if we get fooled again. McCain may be different from Good Ol' W, but he's so similar in so many ways. He doesn't have a plan, and he not does he inspire the masses.If he doesn't make it past 74 - the average male lifespan - we get the self proclaimed "pitbull with lipstick." What a laughing stock we will be, and hollow democracy we will portray, to the rest of the world.

It was painful to watch many parts of the RNC. So many pitbulls with cheerleader tactics - talk about all hat and no cattle - Guliani, Lieberman, Thompson, sad, distorted and with no real substance.

And what about the economy? What about the environment? No plan? Really?

It's time to wake up America and sadly, most of the voters that need a kick in the pants aren't reading blogs on the Washington Post.

Posted by: Don Julio | September 5, 2008 1:21 PM | Report abuse

I find the the race has change significantly. I find that Mccain is now the empty suite. The Mccain/Palin ticket is a fraud. I'll tell you why. They refuse to tell us what change is, What is it that Mccain and inexperienced Palin want to change? What are they going to do about jobs? What are they going to change with healthcare? Basically, Mccain never said how he was going to pay for all of his promises with continuing to stay in Iraq, and balance the budget in the first year. Mccain wants to privatize social which will be a change in a unpopular way. I'm seeing Obama being more detailed oriented with explaining what he wants to do for the economy and in Iraq and Mccain is just saying he'll provide jobs he'll win the war in Iraq, and he'll drill for more oil, etc but he's not telling us how he'll created these jobs or what jobs he wants to create, he's not being specific at all. Now Palin is the new celebrity and she is only a celebrity to republicans because of she against abortion even if a woman is raped. Palin believes in creation, and wants to teach it in schools. Palin is definately on the far right of issues and thats why she's a celebrity to them. Which is why Mccain can't be specific and they will not appeal to independents, moderates and women. Palin is too far on the right wing of things and Mccain doesn't really have a plan to move this country foward. The convention focused on Mccain and his past experiences and not on the future. Obama/Biden has a plan for the future and after Palin is attack for her extreme right wing believes, they will loose the election.

Posted by: Tammy | September 5, 2008 1:16 PM | Report abuse

An Awesome post that must be spread.......

Simcha wrote:
I don't work for a party," McCain said. "I don't work for a special interest. I don't work for myself. I work for you."

Let's break that down:

Don't work for a party: You voted nearly 95% of the time with a Republican president and then changed your views on off-shore drilling, you refused to vote for the new GI Bill (you didn't even bother to show up for the vote)and doing a 180 on many things that supposedly made you a maverick---is NOT working for a party?

No special interests aye? Phil Graham your chief economic advisor (even tho he's no longer listed on your campaign staff) is a lobbyist.....more than half of your campaign staff are Washington lobbyists.....some for Big Oil (which by the way has made huge contributions to your campaign--maybe the reason for the 180 on drilling?)But you don't work for "special interests"---you must mean the special interests of those Americans who pay their taxes and then find them being spent on special projects like the "bridge to nowhere". And by the way, your running mate.....She got 27 million for her little town in Alaska (she's definitely a good Republican) when she was mayor....she built her own little bridge to nowhere but it was a rail-line from her town to the ski slopes (a 15 million dollar project)! No special interests. I get it.

Work for Yourself?? You don't have to work for yourself. Someone who owns as much property as you do, who has the finacial stability that you do and who is still collecting tax-payer dollars in the form of pay....doesn't need to work for themselves! But ask any American about not working for themselves---they don't have a choice!

But you work for us. Really? Didn't you vote against the increase in the minimum wage and so many other things important to us? You keep voting to perpetuate an illegal and costly war in Iraq, telling US that we have to win something there...but never telling us what it is we win by staying and offering more American lives up on the altar to the OIL god! The surge is working but the Iraqis want us O-U-T. They actually have wanted us out for several years but nobody's been listening or reporting it until recently. So you are working for us....but you are not paying one bit of attention to what WE want. Last I looked, we're still a democracy---that means you do work for us because WE are the government. You are just OUR representative (or at least the representative elected by your constituents based on the amount of money you have in order to run a successful campaign.)

No, it would seem you don't work for us...you're record tells us that and you had 26 years to change Washington....that should tell YOU something. It certainly tells US something!

9/5/2008 12:54:21 PM

Posted by: AlexP1 | September 5, 2008 1:00 PM | Report abuse

It is interesting to read the comments from this column
McCain is a true independent? Any one remember 2004? It is now up to the people of Iraq to win or lose the peace that is breaking out beforem them. We can help but it is up to them. If we had left Iraq maybe a half of million people could have been killed,like what happened in Vietnam and Cambodia after we left.
This is a real democarcy in Iraq. This is incredibile. McCain articulated the proper policies to help bring this about.
We have an country that needs new supplies of energy from new sources. The person making $2000.00 cash a month can not afford the distruction of their energy supply before we get new supplies from other sources. We need to add these sources, solar,wind,while providing the average two thousand dollar a month houshold choices.

Posted by: Todd Heyse | September 5, 2008 12:56 PM | Report abuse

Nick, I am sick of hearing people talking about the poor blacks being persecuted by bad whites. Look at Collin Powell, look at Clarence Thomas. They did not have excuses. They worked for their positions. They do not call themselves African-Americans. They call themselves AMERICANS! Lately, there is more racism towards whites than vice versa. What African-Americans? What do they have in common with Africa? They live in country for hundreds of years. Are they ashamed to be called Americans? I guess so! Black churches in America are the most racist institutions on the world, preaching prejudice and hatred. Obama'a patriotism and love for this country is just as great as portrayed in these churches....just like the one he attended for nearly 20 years.

Posted by: fedupwithdems | September 5, 2008 12:51 PM | Report abuse

Democrats for John McCain in 2008

Posted by: Gary | September 5, 2008 12:44 PM | Report abuse

This is too funny! Ooops, wrong picture.

On TV it looked like they put McCain in front of the infamous green screen again. What were they thinking?

A picture shows us it wasn't a green screen after all but a picture of a very impressive building. What building you ask.

The Walter Reed Middle School in North Hollywood, California.

Why would they have a picture of a middle school?

More evidence they don't know what they're doing? Shouldn't that have been Walter Reed Medical Center.

No comment from the campaign says ABC. No wonder. They're still trying to figure out how to spin it. "We can tell them it was part of our education policy. Every child in the country will attend a beautiful school like this."

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/09/mccain-green-sc.html

Posted by: Sandy | September 5, 2008 12:42 PM | Report abuse

I find it quite enlightening that the left cries out for more inclusion of minorities and women in power positions within the GOP, then when the GOP responds by appointing minorities and women to positions of power they are criticized for it. President Bush appoints Colin Powell to his cabinet, and the left say, "Well, not THAT minority! He doesn't count. He's not really black since he is a Republican!" Bush appoints Condi Rice and the left once again cry out, "Not THAT woman! She doesn't count since she is a Republican!" The left have shown their true colors once again by criticizing the selection of a woman as Veep. "She doesn't count as a progressive female choice because she doesn't think the same way we think. Therefore, we can criticize her for "not putting her family first," or, "not having enough executive experience," or "being from a small town," or any of a number of weakly thought out objections. The interesting thing is, had Obama reached across the aisle and selected Palin as HIS VP choice, (obviously a far-fetched scenario, but for the sake of argument...) I don't think we would hear ANY outcries from the left! At the same time, how quickly would the left have turned on one of their own had McCain selected Lieberman as HIS VP choice? There would have been substantial rumblings from the left about how McCain, "The Maverick" had selected a felow member of the Washington insiders club. This goes to show that when it comes to Lefty, it is NEVER really about diversity! It never has been with the left! For the left, it is about insuring that anyone in power thinks the same way they do!

Posted by: Indy Libertarian | September 5, 2008 12:40 PM | Report abuse

U.S. Attacks on Pakistani Territory Continue
Increase Decrease

September 5, 2008 (LPAC)--The inability of the George Bush adminstration to learn from its own strategic errors--such as the support for the British-led toppling of the Musharaf government in Pakistan--was demonstrated again today. A drone deployed by the U.S.-led ISAF forces in Afghanistan, fired several missiles into Pakistani territory today, in North Waziristan. The missiles hit a house, reportedly killing at least three children and wounding several women, according to local television reports. Some reports are saying that those killed were Talibani militants, and Army spokesman Major-General Athar Abbas said they are investigating the incidents.

As Lyndon LaRouche pointed out yesterday, the destabilization of Pakistan is the key British target at this time. Internal Pakistani reports are emphasizing the killing of civilians, and the entire situation is further isolating the Pakistani Army, a key national institution, and fostering internal dissension.

This strike was the third in three days on the Pakistani area bordering Afghanistan, following the raid on Sept. 3 conducted by U.S. forces, in which some 15-20 were killed. That attack was severely condemned by the Pakistani government and Parliament. Yesterday, another drone attack reportedly killed five militants in Pakistan

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 12:40 PM | Report abuse

Dear GoObama,
You really need to put down the bag of cheetos, get off your coach and travel. I am not a Cindy McCain fan, but America does not have poverty. Go to Bangledesh, Brazil, India. Go somewhere. 25,000 people die everyday because of hunger. You may not like her politics, but she is the only person in this race that has done anything about real hunger, real poverty and real health needs. Please educate yourself. You sound riduculous.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 12:39 PM | Report abuse

I find it quite enlightening that the left cries out for more inclusion of minorities and women in power positions within the GOP, then when the GOP responds by appointing minorities and women to positions of power they are criticized for it. President Bush appoints Colin Powell to his cabinet, and the left say, "Well, not THAT minority! He doesn't count. He's not really black since he is a Republican!" Bush appoints Condi Rice and the left once again cry out, "Not THAT woman! She doesn't count since she is a Republican!" The left have shown their true colors once again by criticizing the selection of a woman as Veep. "She doesn't count as a progressive female choice because she doesn't think the same way we think. Therefore, we can criticize her for "not putting her family first," or, "not having enough executive experience," or "being from a small town," or any of a number of weakly thought out objections. The interesting thing is, had Obama reached across the aisle and selected Palin as HIS VP choice, (obviously a far-fetched scenario, but for the sake of argument...) I don't think we would hear ANY outcries from the left! At the same time, how quickly would the left have turned on one of their own had McCain selected Lieberman as HIS VP choice? There would have been substantial rumblings from the left about how McCain, "The Maverick" had selected a felow member of the Washington insiders club. This goes to show that when it comes to Lefty, it is NEVER really about diversity! It never has been with the left! For the left, it is about insuring that anyone in power thinks the same way they do!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 12:36 PM | Report abuse

How did the Republicans get all the hot chicks in their party? Did you see the crowd pans in Denver? Wow, it made me shudder. It makes a brother want to vote Red State.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 12:32 PM | Report abuse

A few comments about the Convention in general:

Anyway, I am rather stunned. First Lindsey Graham gave what is probably the worst speech by a reasonably well known person of the Convention. Graham essentially went on a prolonged rant about how Obama didn’t support the victorious surge, and how Joe LIEberman was such a brave man for bucking “his” party…spoken in a such calcified manner that it failed to raise much enthusiasm even from that partisan crowd. I missed Ridge give his speech, but saw 2 “bio” films, one of Palin the other of Cindy McCain, of such unbelieveable cheap corniness that I am convinced they were put together by some glassy-eyed young Republicans in a high school film class. (jeesh I thought that the Repugs had money up the ying-yang.)

Cindy’s “bio” was truly fairy-tale land, leaving out the fact that Both parents had been married and divorced, each with one child, before they birthed little Cindy Lou. Then there was the “romantic” meeting of Cindy Lou, aged 24, with predatory, still married father of 3, 41 year old John McCain at a Honolulu cocktail party (period photo shown with a dapper looking uniformed McCain sporting a serious comb-over) .

Moving along, there was the detailing of the founding of Cindy’s charity (sans addiction problem natch), which is grantedly, very noble of her, but more to the point for the Repugs I think is the fact that it is a PRIVATE, not Government, charity ministering to the poor of the third world (unfortunately, Cindy doesn’t seem to be aware of the 37 million Americans that live in poverty.) She also rather amusingly, in light of their “romantic” meeting where both lied about their ages, insisted that her husband “never lies.”

And so to a pompous film detailing McCain’s life, with numerous references to his “5 years in a box” (hey I thought that McCain never talked about his POW status? How do his POW years pertain to how he will handle the Presidency?) His first wife and family were left out of course.

As for McCain's speech? A hot, unfocused mess that, beyond the rah rah We are Number One Americanism, and touching, if redundant, introspective remarks about Vietnam, promised little to quiet the uncertainty of an America with an economy in distress, a looming Health Care crisis, and entitlement program that needs urgent attention. More tax cuts, mostly concentrated on the Rich, will not cut it this election cycle Senator, not by a half...

Posted by: GObama | September 5, 2008 12:31 PM | Report abuse

How did the Republicans get all the hot chicks in their party? Did you see the crowd pans in Denver? Wow, it made me shutter. It makes a brother want to vote Red State.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 12:31 PM | Report abuse

By nature, humans try to pass the responsibility to others when things go wrong. Shame on the republican party for choosing the wrong candidate in 2000. Shame on many of us that hired the wrong commander in chief in 2000 (the one who governed behind the throne). Now we should be responsible for our decisions of the past. Thinking of Sen. McCain as successor of pres. Bush is wrong and unfair. In short, Pres.Bush comes from a family where business and their personal pockets come first. Sen. McCain comes from a family, that for several generations, has served our country(we) FIRST rather than their loved ones.
We should be proud of our founding Fathers and our system that allows that an African American or a hockey Mom can run for office if they try hard. Mrs. Palin deserves the same opportunity as Pres. Clinton in 1992. We must Hire a Commander in chief that has demonstrate to serve his country and their people without hesitations. The sage able to make a good decision when tough times come. The one that can impulse the economy. The one that can appeal to investors and create more jobs. If things doesn't improve for you in 4 years from now, don't blame the president or the opposite party, BLAME YOURSELF FOR HIRING THE WRONG COMMANDER IN CHIEF.

Posted by: try123 | September 5, 2008 12:27 PM | Report abuse

Although I think it is great that McCain chose Tina Fey as his running mate, I have to wonder why neither she nor McCain even mentioned the environment, apart from wnating to drill some more, during either two speecehes. And what about health care in a country that has the highest spending on health care in the world and the worst percentage of folks covered. also my GOP brothers, why do you think that 9/11 should still be the foundation of American foriegn policy. Those events were tragic and everyone is basically one or two degrees of seperation from it, but we need to think in the present and remove ourselves and our brave troops from a meat-grinder that is unrelated to the larger issues of terrorism. Finally, as to Obama's patriotism is above reproach as he has served his country from the grass roots level all the way to Washington, and for the issue with his preacher, well can you blame african-americans for a feeling of persecution in the USA? I can't.

Posted by: Nick Padow | September 5, 2008 12:23 PM | Report abuse

Obama for President! If elected, I'm sure we will see more of his good friends, and great Americans such as Bill Ayers, Bernardine Dohrn & Jeremiah Wright.We will probably became partners and friends with great countries like Iran, Libya, and Sudan. We may even get a pat on the back from Russia, but only if we let them invade and take over Georgia. If you want this kind of CHANGE, go and vote for Obama. I'd rather vote for someone much less charismatic, but who is a true patriot and who loves this country, than for someone who is a nominee not because he is the best man for the job, but because his party decided that he has a much better chance of beating McCain than Hilary. Come on people, I am no Hilary's supporter, but she would be much better democratic choice than the man who promotes the change. POCKET CHANGE. Save America! Vote GOP!

Posted by: fedupwithdems | September 5, 2008 12:23 PM | Report abuse

McCain gave the exact speech everyone was expecting him to give. No one expected him to come out all of the sudden and give a different style speech then his history has shown. McCain is not going to give the dramatic speeches that Obama's writers have him giving.
The best speech of both conventions was the Palin speech. Nobody expected her to come out of no where and be able to deliver that speech. She was able to kick Obama and Biden in the bag over and over again and do it with a smile. That may be the game changer right there. She obviously coalesced the Republican Party and was able to connect with the undecideds. It will be interesting to see the bounce the Republicans should get out of their convention. NBC/Gallup had McCain and Obama tied at 42% the day before the Palin speech.
Als, I think it is interesting that people are trying to tie McCain to Bush when the Republicans have been labeling him a Democrat in Republican clothing over the last 20 years. McCain voted for Clinton's appointments of Ginsberg and Breyer, led the push for Clinton to get the Line Item Veto, introduced McCain/Feingold, is part of the Gang of 12 and stood against his president and party on illegal immgration. The only place he has agreed with Bush is on introducing more troops to Iraq versus pulling out.
It will be fun to watch the Democrats try to paint him as a Republican and McCain to communicate that he is the candidate of change. It will be a fun 60 days.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 12:21 PM | Report abuse

McCain said he was not beholding to any party and even briefly criticized republicans. What a shock! He cowtowed to the right wing republicans to get the base on board and then kicks them in the pants to try to appear "moderate". He was for immigration reform before he was against it. He was against ANWR drilling before he picked Palin. He wants to put judges on the SC who don't "legislate" - ie get rid of Roe V Wade. He is scary. Eight is enough!

Posted by: 3rd degree | September 5, 2008 12:16 PM | Report abuse

McCain said he was not beholding to any party and even briefly criticized republicans. What a shock! He cowtowed to the right wing republicans to get the base on board and then kicks them in the pants to try to appear "moderate". He was for immigration reform before he was against it. He was against ANWR drilling before he picked Palin. He wants to put judges on the SC who don't "legislate" - ie get rid of Roe V Wade. He is scary. Eight is enough!

Posted by: 3rd degree | September 5, 2008 12:15 PM | Report abuse

re:debsue
"I know so many Democrats that are voting Republican... because of how unprofessional Democrats are being..Voting MCain/Palin ticket! And of coarse Blacks will vote for Obama.."

2 things...

palin's blatant sarcasm and condescension was a slap in the face to most anyone who is looking to vote based on issues. it was offensive to women, her barking like the good ol' boys. is that the only women that republicans will respect, outside of the trophy wives? insulting, yet the crowd loved it... now, who's being unprofessional?

... "And of coarse Blacks will vote for Obama.."

wow. i mean, even a spelling mistake in that racist remark. mindless, hostile and right along the party line... those remarks and that mindset are why this country has so many people around the world burning the American flag. that is why someone would not be proud of America, because of Americans who say things like that.

mindless lemming

oops, that's right... that's what the conservatives are calling obama supporters! so professional!

Posted by: joebob | September 5, 2008 12:14 PM | Report abuse

McCain said he was not beholding to any party and even briefly criticized republicans. What a shock! He cowtowed to the right wing republicans to get the base on board and then kicks them in the pants to try to appear "moderate". He was for immigration reform before he was against it. He was against ANWR drilling before he picked Palin. He wants to put judges on the SC who don't "legislate" - ie get rid of Roe V Wade. He is scary. Eight is enough!

Posted by: 3rd degree | September 5, 2008 12:13 PM | Report abuse

Sandy, the change spoken mostly of is the "shaking up of Washington" and McCain's pledge to work sincerely with both parties. I've not yet heard Obama utter those words, the liberal media even admits that. Of course working toward bipartisanship has been said before in many political speeches, but McCain has a record to back up his words of bipartisanship. Does Obama? Obama barely has a record other than "present"! A record speaks of actions, not speeches!

I know Obama has only been in national office a little over three years (a great chunk of it on the campaign trail), but if he wants to change things, he can't do it by voting present 130 some odd times. Where are his efforts at reform? Even if he is voting for someone else's reform, but does not present any reforms of his own, he is only a reactionary legislator and not a proactive one, which he pledges to be. He has no record of action to that fact, why should anyone believe him when he says he will. I find that McCain's record shows a shaking and cleaning up of politics (conservative and liberal alike) more than Obama's. What say you?

Posted by: ZHH | September 5, 2008 12:08 PM | Report abuse

I monitored the twitter chat on C-SPAN last night during McCain's appeech and most of it said he was ho-hum and gave the same old republican diatribe. He has moved to the far right and his convention was a snarky knife-wielding attack on Obama, liberals and the media. McCain forgets that he has appeared the most on the media in the past 20 years. His words don't match his actions since he has been running for office.

I too was tired of hearing about his POW status 40 years ago as the end-all to his resume. In 2004, the republicans trashed Kerry when he bragged about his military experience.

He hasn't run a government agency or a business. He is less experienced than Mrs. Palin.

I'm also tired of the republicans claiming a monopoly on patriotism.

Posted by: 3rd degree | September 5, 2008 12:01 PM | Report abuse

.
Rerun the last 10 minutes of John McCain's
speech......ZOOM-IN on his face and upper torso.

John McCain is in early stages of Dementia.

The Debates will tear McCain to pieces.

McCain's fast mental deterioration makes him unfit for elective office.

I hope the Republican Leadership has a Plan "B".......not Mrs. "eyecandy" Palin.

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Posted by: JAMadison4 | September 5, 2008 11:57 AM | Report abuse

Shame on you for bashing him and saying he should go back being a prisoner. Unbelievable!
At least he doesn't have the associations that Obama has (& just only stopped because he wants to be President) At least McCain is "Proud" of his country and "always" has been & has foughyt for our rights. I know so many Democrats that are voting Republican... because of how unprofessional Democrats are being..Voting MCain/Palin ticket! And of coarse Blacks will vote for Obama..

Posted by: DEBSUE | September 5, 2008 11:57 AM | Report abuse

With the huge gains the democrats will be getting in the upcoming House and Senate elections why would anyone want to put a lame duck in the White House?

Posted by: George | September 5, 2008 11:55 AM | Report abuse

What is the change? The entire convention was about the usual republican talking points that are short on issues and filled with soundbites.

And why are they railing against the Washington establishment? They are the Washington establishment. It's as though they think there have been some aliens in charge for the past 8 years. Is this "We have seen the enemy and it is us"?

Why did he spend so much time on the POW story (again) and so little time (basically none) on issues? Because he can't win on the issues. I'm sick of exploiting his POW status.

More exploitation using 9/11 again. I was also offended at the tone of the "9/11 Tribute." Once again it was "be afraid." I wss working downtown that day. If they felt the need to continue the exploitation, they could have focused on how the country and the world came together and how we can come together again. But, of course, that means we have to elect Obama.

Posted by: Sandy | September 5, 2008 11:48 AM | Report abuse

Great speech and really shows the difference between the two men. One who is a doer and one who is a talker.

Obama Bin Biden to the "trash bin" of history.

McCain/Palin 08, now that is the ticket!

Posted by: jvpski | September 5, 2008 11:48 AM | Report abuse

Kim D. | September 5, 2008 1:29 AM (and 2 other identical posts !!)
said..."I thought it horrible of Obama to go to Germany and speak to them and apologize for our part in the war"

EXCEPT...Obama never apologized for Americas part in ww2...

Really - read the speech.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/07/24/obama-in-berlin-video-of_n_114771.html

Of course share and let us know your opinion but if you base that opinion on a fact at least make sure it is correct.

Posted by: bob | September 5, 2008 11:47 AM | Report abuse

I find it fascinating that people put so much focus into what is said in a speech vs. what the candidates have already accomplished. For the most part, people don't get hired for a job because they give a great speech - they get hired for what they have accomplished, how they have demonstrated working well with various people to solve problems, move things forward: actions not words. Both Palin and McCain have accomplished plenty. No they are not perfect...but they have a referencable resume.

Posted by: JD | September 5, 2008 11:46 AM | Report abuse

There was a surprisingly low number of bashes of the Obama campaign last night during McCain's acceptance speech (especially for an acceptance speech). However, the Democrats (mostly liberal media) are still in an uproar this morning. (If you argue that point, then you have to admit McCain's speech was in good taste). I think that McCain's speech speaks a lot to his willingness to work with both parties and the liberal medias efforts to go after him. Does this uproar of liberal protest to McCain's speech actually point toward a fear in the Democrats that the Republicans are on the rise?

Of course, on the heals of Guliani and Palin convention speeches, to a Democrat, McCain should look like a saint for his relatively low number of bashes on Obama. Yet still, he is the one to receive the brunt of the force. Yes, McCain is the name at the top of the ticket, but just because his speech was rather long (and boring at times), and not as well presented as Palin's, does not mean that his was more of an attack. There is a strange correlation to the fact that Palin's speech bashed Democrats more, yet it is received better (for content, not presentation) than McCain's by the liberal media. Does speaking better forgive some of the words said in the speech? The fact is, that the liberal media is not going after McCain with anything new given in his speech, however, we did see a rise in his efforts towards bipartisanship.

With Palin's speech being far better presented, the McCain campaign has tricked liberal media into leaning toward accepting Palin as a viable candidate for vice president. This just points right back to McCain's judgement and choice in his pick for running mate. In the next couple of days the media will lay off McCain's speech and people will forget the bad (which is the same as before the speech) and remember the good (a rise in McCain's bipartisanship effort). And when the dust settles, we will see that the convention has left the Republican ticket with a big bump (something we saw little in the polls for the Democratic ticket after their convention). The most recent polls are already reflecting it this Friday morning following the Republican National Convention.

The liberal media could end up helping McCain-Palin ticket as well though. By playing clips and bashing him, they are giving him the coverage he needs, while the swing voter, who is typically resistant to having other people decide for them, chooses for themselves. Of course, they will vote based on their own convictions, but McCain's efforts toward bipartisanship will not go unnoticed. I am sure that this will be reflected over the next few days (by Tuesday) in the polls.

Posted by: ZHH | September 5, 2008 11:43 AM | Report abuse

McCain spoke from his heart and I thought it was a great speach.

As far as the demonstrators in the audience, not for a minute do I not believe that the Democrats staged this. The Democrats are the meanest, spitful and hateful crowd that I've ever seen. I'm 70 yrs. old and have over the yrs. divided my vote between the Democrats and Republicans, by today as God is my witness, I shall never again vote for a Democrat so help me God. I'd rather stay home and not vote that push the button for some outrageous idiot.

Posted by: Millie | September 5, 2008 11:41 AM | Report abuse

For all you people who say your democrats but will vote for mccain..

Your not fooling us..

Its funny how mccain wants to bring change to washington when his party is the one that is in power..

The GOP team has been in place for the past 8 years and everyone is sick of republicant's running this country into the ground.

Posted by: Vince | September 5, 2008 11:40 AM | Report abuse

Was this speech fantastic? A dazzling display of oratorial skill? No, of course not and everyone new that would be the case going in. But one thing is clear from watching both speeches: McCain is for America and Obama is full of himself. Neither speech gave any specifics, or has everyone including the media forgotten Obama's already? Yes it was flashier but it was just as empty of detail. The thing that McCain's speech had that Obama's clearly lacked was humility.

Obama is a vapid arrogant talking head who is so liberal that he will not be able to reach across party lines because of his very extremism. His agenda is the most liberal platform ever brought in front of America. Billions of dollars in new taxes and spending. Shameless bribes of average Americans for their vote (bleeding oil companies becasue they are unpopular right now to subsidize America's irresponsible thirst for unnecessary SUVs and trucks, come on). Complete detachment from reality due to his deep roots in idealism instead of common sense and experience. Stop trying to elect him because he is black and can make a speech, that is all he has going for him. He is not presidential, he is dangerous. I would love to see a black president, it would do amazing things to heal this country. But not this black president. I worked hard for my money, I want to keep it.

Posted by: Travis | September 5, 2008 11:40 AM | Report abuse

All those words and not one specific idea on how he'll pull the country out of recession, not one word on how to end the war in Iraq, not one idea of how to bring Americans together. It was more GOP pap, speaking of generalizations of the same party lines of W. Change from John McCain? That's laughable. He backed Bush for eight years on every issue. Lower taxes? No there's no tax relief for most Americans under GOP rule. I heard both speeches from the nominees. Obama was inspiring and McCain was more of the same from George Bush.

Posted by: Larry | September 5, 2008 11:37 AM | Report abuse

there you go again with the "race card"...we owe ALL veterans and soldiers something, our appreciation and gratitude for their sacrifices. It's because of their sacrifices that we can sit here and relish in our freedoms. A person should be a hero b/c of their actions and good-will, not because of their ethnicity or sex.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 11:34 AM | Report abuse

Mccain speech was just like other Mccain speeches. I think the republicans want independents and moderates to vote for Mccain/Palin just because of their stories. Mccain talk about fighting for the American people, he couldn't stand up against his own base. Mccain has done everything they wanted him too. They wanted drilling and he co signed. They wanted to continue giving tax cuts to the rich and he's done that. They wanted Palin and he has given them that. Palin a Neo right wing republican. If Mccain and his camp think Palin is going to swing women over to their camp he's crazy. The point is the country doesn't share their values, and policies and thats what their giving us republican policies and right wing values and morales and I'm not a right Wing republican and don't share their values. Nice story but no substance and no ideas or vision on where their going to take this country. Palin/Mccain ticket will be a disaster. I couldn't imagine Palin in the White House, she is so inexperienced.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 11:34 AM | Report abuse

I think McCain's speech was overshawdowed by Cindy's, who looked slightly more lifelike in her ton of blush makeup than John did in his.

His speech went on forever and thank heavens for all the siegheil chants of "USA USA" or I wouldn't have known how often protestors had infiltrated the security perimeters of GOP convention. And this is the guy who going to keep us "safe."

Right, safe from those awful bureaucrats that might stand between us and a healthcare emergency that would otherwise bankrupt our entire family -- as the AARP commercials were constantly reminding us.

And what was with the "Peace" signs the delegates were holding up? If they weren't so finished looking, I would have thought it was another protest infiltration. Republicans holding "Peace" signs while baying for war with practically everybody? Orwellian humor, of a piece with such doublespeak Republican slogans as "The Clean Air Act" (which actually removes regulations on industry pollution) and the "No Child Left Behind Act," which has resulted in students being prepped with rote answers for tests, rather than an understanding of a subject.

Thank heavens for Sarah Palin, who is total eyecandy and and has a hard-right aura of nonsensical beliefs. She will be an entertaining sideshow for the next few months and have a negligible effect on moving independent voters.

Posted by: icapricorn | September 5, 2008 11:34 AM | Report abuse

Go and get yourself imprisoned again McCain. i am sure that will make you doubly qualified for President. There is no escaping that you and Sarah are Bush disguised as an old man and a beauty queen. The same old refrain and trickery, think you can con America and the world again.

Posted by: Basil | September 5, 2008 11:32 AM | Report abuse

Truly, when it comes to McCain, nobody's home. He has been so Bushwashed that he hasn't a clue. And should Palin need to step into the Oval Office? Good God...I don't even want to go THERE! God help us. God help America.

Posted by: Vampirella | September 5, 2008 11:32 AM | Report abuse

"Why are we trying to return to the values of Europe? They have not generated great successes."

Um, have you seen the exchange rates lately? Have you seen the college education statistics and the volume of start ups earning great success in EU countries? Do you realize that almost ALL of the EU countries have health care and pensions for all people, and enjoy good relations with most other foreign powers? And that they enjoy far more social freedom then we do?

Yes, we do some of their dirty work. Here's an idea - Lets not do that anymore! But lets try to at least look to the things they do right, and not simply say "Oh, its un-American. I am proud of my country." That is not the damn point, and it is overly simplistic. It is not simply "trendy" to compare ourselves to other successful democratic countries. The reason we look to the EU is because the American dream simply is not working for the vast majority of our country. And, for many of those that think it is - they are one car accident, or heart attack, from a bankruptcy due to health care expenses, and one lost job or sick parent away from foreclosure - and then, they are first in line for a government hand out. The cycle forces us to REACT rather than PROACT - and it ends up costing us more overall.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 11:31 AM | Report abuse

Speech was uninteresting. He seemed not too interested and unconvinced by his own words.

The corn backdrop was taken straight out of the movie "Soylent Green" which is not a compliment to whomever selected that particular scene.

Soylent Green is futuristic. NY pop. is 40 million. There's no food. People live in the streets, regularly scooped by bulldozers and...
http://healinganation.wordpress.com/2008/09/05/john-mccains-soylent-green-backdrop/

Posted by: tank | September 5, 2008 11:29 AM | Report abuse

"I can't wait to introduce her to Washington," McCain said of Palin. "And let me offer an advance warning to the old, big spending. . . ."

Big spending? Start with that outrageous outfit your wife displayed at the RNC. Plus the jewelry. I could live for a year on what Cindy and Laura paid for their "ensembles." Disgusting display. Is that how you will spend taxpayer money?

Posted by: Vampirella | September 5, 2008 11:29 AM | Report abuse

These Republicans are so deluded that they appear almost cult like in their blind allegiance. McCain is an old bore and Cindy better crawl back into the hole of the million dollar beer barrel. If America votes for McCain and Cindy (90% plastic) and select a rather poorly qualified Sarah PailIn, it will be the beginning of the end for what USA stands for.

Posted by: Basil | September 5, 2008 11:27 AM | Report abuse

i didn't love the speech as much as i did gov. palin's. but i don't care about speechifying...
deeds over words, experience over
speeches. that's why this democrat is voting mccain/palin.

america first!!

Posted by: mikel | September 5, 2008 11:24 AM | Report abuse

Does the constitution require that those that hold the office of president posess a heartbeat or any other vital signs? Horrible speech. Just horrible.

Posted by: ERT | September 5, 2008 11:19 AM | Report abuse

I have been in both parties. I lean more to the right now days. I have not always been McCain's fan, but his choice of Palin and their speeches yesterday and today have made me an overwhelming supporter of them. I saw a side of McCain tonight which I never knew existed. If you TRULY listened without trying to critique it (that should be reserved for later), he told how he was reformed in his jail cell in Hanoi. He said prior to that experience that he was all about himself; that he never really cared for America until he was separated from America and tortured under the communists. He said he was BROKEN by them and it changed his outlook. I had tears in my eyes trying to imagine what HELL it must've been. I saw a man who truly yearns to defeat "politics" as usual and wants to battle for the rights of the people. He wants to stop all of them from abusing us, "the people" and wasting our hard-earned tax dollars. He's in the PEOPLE'S corner!!

Having been the President of a Speech & Literary Society in college, I appreciate those who can deliver eloquently and most times, Obama does just that. But now that I have LIVED a little, at the age of 48, I'm realizing that eloquently delivered speeches are NOT indicators of a successful administration. In fact, I've become more skeptical of those who spend so much time on choosing the RIGHT words. They spend too much time focusing their energy on "delivery" and not on the nation's business. While McCain is not a naturally-gifted speaker, he certainly has a sincerity of conviction and a clearly defined purpose -- transformation of government as usual. I'll take a plain speaking man any day to the refined oratory of an Ivy League Lawyer. Words do not equal action!!! It's easy to craft a fine speech especially with speech writers hired to do the work for you; but it's another thing to deliver proven results. Prior to McCain's run for the Presidency, he was considered the darling by the Press because he worked on BOTH sides of the aisle. It's been amazing to watch how fast he was abandoned by the smooth-talking press core.

I thought it horrible of Obama to go to Germany and speak to them and apologize for our part in the war -- it was a disgrace to Americans (and my grandfather, a WWII soldier) -- at that moment he LOST me for sure. Who cares if he speaks well to a German audience -- they loved Hitler too for his great oratory and look what it got them!

I studied in Europe for a college semester and I found it quite "fashionable" to attack America and I joined in on the FUN. But through the years and many travels later, I'm a firm believer in the American message and ideals. We threw off the establishment -- the powers that be so that we could fulfill our own destiny and not be ruled by government officials who condescendingly look down on us as poor pitiful citizens who can't take care of themselves and need THEM to guide and dictate our lives. Why are we trying to return to the values of Europe? They have not generated great successes. If it weren't for us, there wouldn't even be a Europe anymore; or at least it would be a very trimmed down version of their former glory. They fight and disagree and make war on each other all the time -- is that the model we want to follow? McCain-Palin for me is the RIGHT choice for America. They want to go into the global community as a leader, not as a follower of a failed system such as Europe's. Our Hollywood elite don't get this -- they're mostly an uneducated lot who are "enamored" when they meet Europe and all its apparent CLASS and INTELLECT and quickly join the bandwagon in insulting us -- their home country. They need to strike a balance. We may not be the best at everything, and we may make mistakes, but to just blabber mouth everything and complain all the time doesn't FIX IT!! We are a very caring and good-hearted nation and don't need to apologize for WHO we are. We've done great things for the world to be proud of; we don't need to hang our heads in shame any longer. What has Europe done for us since the Revolution or the war of 1812 (when the French aided us against the Brits)?

Also, our country is mammoth in comparison to single countries in Europe and this is why we require more resources, not to mention having the 3rd largest population in the world. Their little countries are like our individual states. We can't afford mass transport like they can in their densely populated cities and countries, so we do consume more fuel. They're always complaining that we consume too much or waste too much energy. Just let them come here and see that Alaska to Florida is longer than Glasgow to Bagdad!
For all their intellect, we've still done well for ourselves, don't you think? Obama is too enamored of Europe for my taste. I'll stick to McCain and the American cause/dream. We've done just fine for ourselves over the last few hundred years--and were able to abolish our great evil - slavery. My ancestor's fought for their rights -- to give African Americans their freedom. I'm proud of that. WE (Americans) have a platform to stand on since we have been successful in becoming a GREAT melting pot -- without internal civil wars due to religion, class, or racial warfare. Others can be proud to follow our example. Let freedom ring. They're beating down our doors to get in here -- that's the real truth of America! And it is McCain who will protect America and her values; not Obama.

I have been extremely worried about Obama's connections to people on the very radical left who HATE America & I just wonder how he could ever serve America's best interests. America-bashing is a sign that shouldn't be ignored. He will probably sell our collective soul to the World Court of opinion.

Watching both conventions, I was disturbed by how much animosity Obama exhibited towards McCain. Palin showed some animosity too, but her's was in response to Obama and the Press's put downs. I would also counter attack if I was ridiculed for my mayor-ship and would launch an assault on anyone who would say such awful things about my child. She was justified in her "friendly" jabs given the outright war the Press has made on her. They never ever gave her a chance! I don't like this. The press is not being fair. Their bias for Obama clearly shows now, if ever there had been a question.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 11:17 AM | Report abuse

Independent, Obama has a history of reaching across the aisle and working with Republicans here in Illinois. McCain says he'll work with Democrats, but I'm not sure he's much of a maverick anymore. He's following the Rove playbook, and kowtowing to religious conservatives during the campaign. Don't you think they'll say "you owe us" if he's elected? I just don't see him reforming our government. He'll follow in Bush's footsteps instead.

Posted by: Heron | September 5, 2008 11:12 AM | Report abuse

Are Bristol and Levi going to go on Maury Povich to make sure that God isnt the baby Daddy?

Posted by: Becky | September 5, 2008 11:09 AM | Report abuse

We have always Respected and Honored McCain's service to this country. But we know who is spinning the message Schmidt and Rove known as the guys that brought us two George W. Bush terms and now they want to sell us a third Bush term.

McCain called for an end to the“constant partisan rancor”. Yet his campaign ads have attacked American Artists by attempting to brand them as just celebrities. Barack Obama is like Ronald Reagan when it comes to support of the Talented Artists of their time. Obama's message rings of a “Beautiful day coming to America” which is similar to Reagan's "Its morning in america again".

McCain's campaign has gone after the media who are asking the important questions that help keep the voters informed about the contrasts between the Democrat and Republican Parties in the most important election of our times.

After watching this Republican convention the first impression was the Republicans rallied their base by attacking Obama/Biden instead of presenting a clear case for voting for McCain. What about their solutions for the issues voters care about? A missed opportunity for the Republicans. Follow up impression common sense now says that its Obama/Biden who can end the “constant partisan rancor” in Washington DC.

When McCain says the last weeks of this campaign will be hard fought, nothing personally, just the nature of the business we know what McCain, Schmidt and Rove are saying – more negative attacks, more slash and burn tactics. When McCain says “Change is coming,” to Washington DC – The voters look at the Schmidt, Rove and Fox News attacking and we know what is coming – A Pit Bull? Avoid The Pit Bull with Lip Stick when The Pit Bull attacks. Who says we must fight on their turf? Let them come to ours. This race is still Obama/Biden vs McCain/Bush.

America can have a beautiful day in November by Voting for Change we can believe in

U2 can have a beautiful day
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U2 can dance with us
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Join us!

Vote Obama/Biden '08

Posted by: Cooday | September 5, 2008 11:04 AM | Report abuse

I thought it was totally disgusting and insensitive. When in the very beginning they gave that tribute to 911 set the whole tone for me. I thought those scenes they showed of the distruction, the wording on the memorial which read, We were young, we died, remember us. had no place at that convention. McCain reduced those horrorfic tradgeies as a political tactic. Only to serve his personal ambitions. How dare he declares country first. How dare he claim he is not like Bush. He is just like Bush, because in 2004 Busch used those same fear tactics for political gain. It was appauling. I kept flipping through the channels from CNN to MSNBC waiting for the outrage of this tribute. I could see that Keith Olberman on MSNBC was just as disgusted as I was and he apologized to his audience for the specticle that they just witnessed. Had Obama done that it would have been all we heard. It would have ended any chance of winning for him. It would have been played up on the same line as Obama pastor Rev. Wright would have been. I just hope the American people see how despicable McCain really is. And all through the night it was all about war and pictures of war. McCain is no hero to me, he is a survior of the war. Just as Obama is a survior of discrimination and racism a war he fights everyday, just because of the color of his skin. Something that he will never be able to escape from. Now that is my hero and a hero to so many African Americans. McCain claims he has the scares to show his patriotism and Obama don't. Let McCain walk a mile in a Black mans shoes before he says that. We also carry many scares for this country and yet we will fight and die for it. Obama has put himself on the front lines for America. How many death treats or harm to his family did McCain get as a candidate just because of the color of his skin. My brother who also was on the front lines of Viet Nam that not onlyl had to fight the enemy of that war but also the racist attacks that he had to endure and defend from other soilders in his own unit that is my hero. McCain is only a solider that survived and now thinks the country owes him something. Let him tell that to all the homeless vets.

Posted by: Cokomo2 | September 5, 2008 10:54 AM | Report abuse

I do not understand how people can demand the change we all want: economic stimulus, better education prgrams - or at least ones that are comprable to those of our "peer" countries, health care for all, and improved foreign relations, without expecting to pay more in taxes. With our huge war deficit, and the enormous amount of money we owe hostile governments, how on earth is that possible? We are not free anymore economically - we are in debt up to our eyeballs, and about to be foreclosed on. Face it. And get ready to help out - sometimes it requires contributing to your country. And that is not socialism, it is taking responsibility and facing facts.

For those that want less power concerntrated in the hands of the federal government - how else can we stimulate the economy? FDR, people. The new deal. It does not happen at the state level. More so, a President has more executive power during war than ANY OTHER TIME. Electing a President who is pro-war is electing a power powerful leader than the position was ever intended to be.

Finally, it is 2008. I simply cannot believe that the Republican party has nominated a VP that is anti-choice, anti-sexual education beyond abstinence, anti-the teaching of evolution in our schools, and a proven banner of books. The real sexism of the issue is that if Governor Palin was a man, they never would have dared to nominate her. Never. The fact that she can smile snarkily and joke about lipstick somehow makes her backward, terrifying policy positions more palatable. My goodness. Removing books from libraries. Working to take away rights guaranteed by the Constitution that the Supreme Court - a branch of our government - has deemed sacred. Making our schools even less competitive then our global counterparts by teaching even less. What message of tolerance, of democracy, does that possibly send to the world? What hope does that give the states who are forced to deal with Governors like this, and cannot rely on the federal government to set a floor of tolerance, of benefits, of a decent education?

We need our President to have the power to effectuate change, to stimulate the economy, to help our kids go to college. We cannot only allow him power in electing to go to war and dragging us along behind him. The stakes are simply too high. Please, let us move forward. Let us not damage ourselves in the eyes of the world anymore. Wake up to the fact that America is no longer the strongest country in the world, and that the entreprenuer dream has been realized in countires like Ireland that support education and free health care for all. It is called humanity. Helping the people of Katrina after they suffer tremendously is all well and good. But it is reacting. Imagine, just imagine, what we could do if we helped them before.

Voting based on your bottom line is sensible. But it cannot be done in a vacuum. It is more expensive to help people after they have fallen hopelessly, and it is simply inhumane not to, and so we will never do that. We need to build from the ground up. Please, please, please think about it.

Posted by: Cautiously Optimistic | September 5, 2008 10:53 AM | Report abuse

So it's time Fake Messiah Lefty Liberal
Losers Empty Suits Barack Hussein Obama and
his long time Democrat Liberal Looney Toons
Big Mouth Joe Biden and their Obamabot Kool
Aid Drinkers all realize that both the two
Republicans Sen John McCain and Alaska
Gov Sarah Palin will kick their butts good
and that Obama and Biden are toast and
will never be President and Vice President
and that Biden can go back to his booze
bottle and Obama & hateful racist wife
Michelle Obama can go back to Chicago and
being a phony so-called "Community Organizer" Fraud! Go McCain/Palin 2008!
An Independent Voter for McCain/Palin 08!

Posted by: Sherry Kay 2004 | September 5, 2008 10:49 AM | Report abuse

To “More constant than bitter”


This is absolutely amazing! You provide distorted statistics on Clinton and Bush military casualties and you give a link to the document that exposes your lies! I did not check the rest of the numbers that you give but using the numbers from the document that you are referring to ( http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/natsec/RL32492.pdf ) the accurate tally for eight Clinton years is 7500 and for six Bush years ( they do not have 2007 numbers) it’s 8792. Not counting thousands of wounded!

Why do you waste your time?

Posted by: alilfa | September 5, 2008 10:46 AM | Report abuse

The entire Republican agenda relies on the "temporary" Bush tax cuts, which Mc Cain was against because his conscience bothered him, and which he is now for. But last night he said:

"I will keep taxes low and cut them where I can."

Where? When? Whose? Taxes. And how will he cut them or keep them low?

Posted by: V Ray | September 5, 2008 10:45 AM | Report abuse

I was also happy with McCain's attacks on his own party. Limbaugh said that a McCain nomination would 'destroy the party, it would change it forever'. Thankfully, it appears that he was right. This is the most reform, small-government ticket since Reagan.

I was also struck by how positive it was. The second most used word in Obama's speech, after America, was McCain. McCain's was fight, aftern American. We all have to stand up and fight to fix Washington.

Posted by: Mordecai | September 5, 2008 10:44 AM | Report abuse

Didja notice - if it weren't for war - Vietnam & Iraq - McCain wouldn't have too much to brag about

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 10:43 AM | Report abuse

Yes, Mr Clinton, or Mr NAFTA sent those jobs oversees and is still getting kick backs from it.

Posted by: More constant than bitter | September 5, 2008 10:42 AM | Report abuse

If Barack Obama is really interested in turning the divide from red vs. blue states, why does he say he respects the faith of small towners in Scranton, Pa but says that small town people cling to "guns & religion out of bitterness" in San Francisco, California? Obama has no substantial issue in which he has bucked his party as McCain does: embroyonic stem cell research, campaign finance reform, immigration & giving qualified judges an up or down vote. McCain's speech last night resembled his voting record: not flashy or all show, but detailed with a specific interest in serving his nation first. McCain talked about his bipartisan record and at times he's been hated by both parties. He also talked about his good judgement on his early proposal of the troop surge, his sticking to it when it wasn't popular by any party & taking the political scars thereof. I believe McCain, last night, appealed to alot of veterans who do love this country. McCain/Palin will get alot of moderate democrats due to this. Palin will also motivate hunters & social conservatives helping cap off states like Alaska, Montana, North Carolina, Colorodo & Ohio. Palin will also help in New Mexico, Pennsylvania & Michigan. McCain/Palin will really motivate the foreign policy/social conservatives. McCain/Palin will also do well with military moms, independents & moderate/conservative democrats. McCain will do well enough with moderate democrats/independents to make up for the fact that McCain/Palin will not motivate the fiscal conservative facet of the Republican party. Most of them will vote for McCain/Palin anyhow due to their promises to balance a budget and cut spending, but some may support Liberterian party Bob Barr. McCain/Palin is in great shape right now. McCain will wipe the floor with Obama when it comes to discussing specifics of policy, Sarah Palin is being prepped by Joe Lieberman and other campaign operatives to be ready for her debate with Joe Biden. Right now, McCain/Palin is in great shape!

Posted by: reason | September 5, 2008 10:38 AM | Report abuse

Among the numerous white lies of McCain, ''change is coming'' yes change will come no matter what, in McCain''s case if he were tragically elected, we would have a new President and that in itself would constitute change, sure. In McCain''s case that is where it would end however, it would be like reelecting Bush for a third term, which really would not be a change at all. Remember John McCain voted in support of 95 per cent of Bush''s disastrous policies. In Obama''s case we would see President Obama and the newly elected Democrats in the House and Senate get straight to work at reversing all of the failed economic, foreign, environmental, employment, education and many other failures of the Bush administration. It is not a matter of will there be some kind of change, it is a matter of exactly what kind of change we want, Obama all the way if that''s the question.

Posted by: Democrats 08 | September 5, 2008 10:35 AM | Report abuse

I AM SMALL TOWN USA!!! I AM CLINGING TO MY GUNS AND RELIGION. I AM PROUD TO VOTE FOR A MAN THAT HAS WALKED THE WALK AND TALKED THE TALK. I PROUD THAT SARAH IS WILLING TO DO FOR US WHAT SHE HAS DONE IN ALASKA. NO MORE PREACHING. I GO TO CHRUCH FOR THAT. ANY WOMAN WHO LOOKS DOWN ON SARAH BECAUSE OF HER FAMILY SITUTION IS A TOTAL IDIOT. WOMEN FOUGHT TO HAVE THE RIGHT TO SERVE ON THE BATTLEGROUND NOT THAT LONG AGO. WHY ARE YOU UP IN ARMS ABOUT THAT? ARE YOU STUPID ENOUGH TO THINK THEY DON'T HAVE KIDS.

Posted by: Typical White Person | September 5, 2008 10:33 AM | Report abuse

Good grief anonymous.
The Russians tried the Afghanistian approach and don't tell me you don't remember their results. Iraq was the one and only real location. But Saddam didn't want us there, because he wanted to control the Arab world and be the BIG CHEESE in the middle east.
You proved me wrong on what issue?
You agreed with me, but nothing you've said has proved anything wrong. What you have done mostly is pose ?s, which makes a good debate. But having a closed mind is not only weak, but also very sad.

Posted by: More constant than bitter | September 5, 2008 10:32 AM | Report abuse

Why makes you think that "Big Companies" take their tax breaks and invest in the companies future? That philosophy has not worked for YEARS. The America we live in now is a ME-FIRST one. They've taken their tax cuts and put them into their OWN wallet and sent the jobs overseas.
THAT'S WRONG!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 10:31 AM | Report abuse

I think the speech worked very well for independents. I had been leaning fairly strongly towards Obama, but I was impressed by McCain's speech.

I was surprised by how independent it sounded. I didn't hear Obama say "If I win, I'll work with McCain," but McCain said he would work with Democrats, and his record show that he does on the big issues.

Also, I was impreseed by his willingness to chastise the Republican party. This was not a typical "My party good. Other party bad." speech that we usually get form both parties.

While Obama offers a changes from President Bush and Republican philosophies, McCain seesm to offer change from how government works in general. And he has the record to show that he does oppose pork spending, and he does reach across the aisle, and he does fight corruption in both parties. He really does have the record of someone who is willing to make change in Washington. Not just change from the old Republican way back to the old Democrat way, but from the old Republican and the old Democrat way to a new way of government.

Posted by: Independent | September 5, 2008 10:25 AM | Report abuse

Hey
Did you get a look at Sara last night,I bet she won't leave anybody's chad hanging.

Posted by: Scott Davis | September 5, 2008 10:20 AM | Report abuse

And George Bush told Americans that he was a uniter and not a divider and that he was a compassionate conservative. Add McCain's pretenses; Americans can do better than drink the Kool-aid and fall for such misleading packaging. It's really insulting, you know, how stupic the Republicans think Americans, or more particularly their base, really are.

Posted by: nclwtk | September 5, 2008 10:19 AM | Report abuse

So if we were already heading into a recession (which may be true)when Bush took office, what has he done to remove us form it??
Thought so

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 8:47 AM

Alright Anonymous, apparently I'm going to have to spoon-feed you some information, so pay attention b/c I know how you "tolerant democrats" like to tune things out when they go against your beliefs.

Bush got us out of the shortest recession in U.S. history. Here's how:
First, rebate checks...you know, the one you got in the mail and deposited into your bank account.
Then came along the "evil Bush tax cuts"...this allowed people and small-businesses and yes, "the evil big corporations" to go out, spend money, invest in expanding their businesses, etc. without the worries of being penalized for actually making money. I'll give you an example, every year retailers have a "no tax day" at the end of the summer to stimulate sales. People go nuts and spend hundreds of dollars to save an average of .07 cents on the dollar and retailers make millions and millions of dollars. In reality it isn't very much but helps generate sales, which help these businesses generate profits and growth, which then encourages them to expand their services, which requires them to hire money people, who then are employed and with a stable income, these people then go out and spend money, etc... Do you see the vicious cycle? Anyway,
The next way Bush helped our economy was by lower interests rates on loans. By doing so, people could actually go out and BUY their OWN homes, cars, and/or remodel their existing homes or even, GOD FORBID, become independent and start up a new business...the list of possibilites is long by hopefully you get the point.
However, in accordance to the comment made by Liza earlier, as Americans we must excercise responsibility when we act and use good judgment. For instance, do not buy a home with an adjustable rate mortgage (ARM) if you, are buying a home that is beyond your means of income. If you can only afford to pay the mortgage b/c under an ARM you're only paying the interest and not the principle (but, if those rate were to go up, you can no longer pay for your home), then I'm sorry my friend, look for another house and save yourself the trouble. I also blame those loan officers and mortgage brokers who, in bad-faith, encouraged such loans in order to receive more and higher commissions.
So, b/c of the rebate checks, the tax cuts and lowered interests rate, our economy grew, fast! Because of the rate of our economy's growth, the FED has to increase interest rates in order to slow down the rate of growth and prevent inflation (you might want to learn about economics right about now). However, this is when things started to catch-up with all of those individuals who were living beyond their means and spending money like maniacs...interest rates go up and they can no longer afford to sustain "their way" of life anymore. Also, oil prices went up and we were suddenly at the mercy of foreign oil again...just like under the Carter admin. Sooo, now you've got about 8% of the poulation defaulting on their mortgages, defaulting on credit cards and screwing things up for those of us who work hard, practicle responsbile spending and pay our bills. Because a strong and stable economy is based on supply and demand as well as paying all of our debt in order to free up more money to those who need it, so that they, too, can take advantage of the opportunities to better their circumstances. Again, we must take responibility for our actions and suffer the consequences when we don't (thanks Liza, good points made).
This is a basic overview of how our strong economy got this way. I didn't mention the burden of illegal immigrants pose to our economy and healthcare nor did I mention all of the pork-barrel spending done by congress that contributes A GREAT DEAL to our deficit (not to mention corruption). Again, I'm not here to spoon-feed you anything...you need to inform yourself by reading some more books and get off of CNN and MSNBC. But I felt compelled to give some sort of explanation as to how we, as a country, got here since we all seem to either forget or select what inform we choose to hear and accept as truth to make ourselves feel better for the mess we got ourselves into. Every presidency inherits the previous prsident's economy and it takes years for a bill to get passed through congress and actually produce change. Who are you going to blame once Bush is gone? I really hope Obama gets elected so that you can see how misguided your "idealistic", "democratic" principles are. When Democrats are in office nothing gets done...just look at our congress and their great performance record. The only smart thing Clinton did during his administration was to cut the CAPITAL GAINS TAX because he knew that if he taxed Wall Street, he would have severely hurt our economy. YOU CAN'T PUNISH PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY MAKE MONEY!!! What incentive would they then have to spend it? It is very convenient to have socialist principles in a capitalist country.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 10:17 AM | Report abuse

I've been a republican my whole life, but I will not vote for John McCain....
Has anyone considered that John McCain most likely suffers from Post Traumatic Stress Disorder and brain damage from multiple Traumatic Brain Injuries? Per http://www.ninds.nih.gov/disorders/tbi/tbi.htm, individuals with TBIs exhibit "behavioral or mood changes, and trouble with memory, concentration, attention, or thinking." I think we have all seen his confusion or fuzzy thinking (i.e. I'll have to check with my advisors regarding how many homes I own...I assumed I voted that way, etc.). Most people without brain damage know the answer to that questions without having to check with their advisors!

I grew up with a father who was a WW2 vet and served on a minesweeper for 3 years. He had PTSD and multiple TBIs. These two conditions are often the sad legacy of war (even one that ended in 1945). My father had violent rages for no apparent reason, exhibited unpredictable behaviors, had psychotic breaks with reality, etc. I'm still recovering the effects and I am 50. Many veterans suffer from these two conditions, TBIs are the most common injuries in Iraq and under the Republican administration, our veterans are not receiving the treatment they needs.

I would not wish this someone with these conditions on anyone, but I think it is absolutely terrifying to think of someone with these conditions as President! Due to no fault of their own their brain is forever damaged and not for the better.

Posted by: SMS | September 5, 2008 10:15 AM | Report abuse

ReBranding: "STRAIGHT LIE EXPRESS".

McBush cannot even pick VP... Without LYING - about knowing Palin unmarried daughter is pregnant, saying long fully vetted priocess ?

"Aides Say Team Interviewed Palin Late in the Process. Washington Post
ST. PAUL, Minn., Sept. 2 -- Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin was not subjected to a lengthy in-person background interview with the head of Sen. John McCain's vice presidential vetting team until last Wednesday in Arizona, the day before McCain asked her to be his running mate, and she did not disclose her unmarried 17 year old daughter is pregnant.
- By Dan Balz

Posted by: Realista | September 5, 2008 10:15 AM | Report abuse

We all knew that this speech wouldn't blow anybody away. This isn't his best forum, and no rearrangment of furniture was going to make him truly comfortable up there.

But what surprised me somewhat is that the content of the speech was bereft of any real issues. I know we've been told that this election is not about issues, but I was still hoping for at least a little specificity.

Irrespective of its delivery - which was admittedly forced and at times uncomfortable to watch - it was a flat speech. No forum would have saved it from itself.

Posted by: John in Mpls | September 5, 2008 10:15 AM | Report abuse

Cohen, All Senator Obama does and has done is talk and talk and read speeches, but no experience and NO record. Well, he does have the 130 times "present" stand to stand on.

Posted by: More constant than bitter | September 5, 2008 10:13 AM | Report abuse

It is such a stark difference in media coverage:
Here's how John King of CNN respionds after the McCain speeh:
"Tonight, I think we have a testament to tenacity. This guy has been written off so many times and he scratched in part as way back and whether you agree with one thing he stands for politically, he's a pretty tough remarkable guy and we're seeing that tonight."

Why does he have to couch his comment with " .. whether you agree with one thung he stands for politically.."

Not once, never, nada, did the media use the proviso " whether you agree with him or not" with their comments about Barrack Obama's speech.

The media is in the tank for Obama.

Posted by: mediahack | September 5, 2008 10:10 AM | Report abuse

Of course, we ALL wanted OBL blood!!!!! So why were we in Iraq????

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 10:09 AM | Report abuse

MISLEADING?????

I've proven "More constant than bitter" (or should it be More bitter than constant) wrong on so many levels here. Just look up the facts people!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 10:08 AM | Report abuse

Joe that's an out and out lie. So prove it.
Everyone in this country and most politicians wanted Bin Laden's blood and you're no exception. Now you wanta flip flop.
TELL THE TRUTH

Posted by: More constant than bitter | September 5, 2008 10:06 AM | Report abuse

All of you Obama supporters with your outrageous and meaningless comments are a real joke!

Posted by: Reality | September 5, 2008 10:04 AM | Report abuse

That one is almost funny.....
Contradicting by facts???????
Senator McCain stated in his acceptence speech he had to grow up in a prison camp, but guess what he did and we sure don't need another hot shot in the oval office under the desk on my tax dollars, growing up while in office.

Posted by: More constant than bitter | September 5, 2008 10:01 AM | Report abuse

McCain? Change? You have got to be kidding me. BTW, his wife was wearing a dress worth $300,000 last night...enough said. America deserves better than these good'ole boy, privileged WASPs running the country. America is a diverse and dynamic country. Obama represents this. He is the one!

Posted by: Cohen | September 5, 2008 9:58 AM | Report abuse

Was he putting country first when he took bribes from Charles Keating?

Posted by: Adam | September 5, 2008 9:57 AM | Report abuse

Heehee! I'm long retired and living in Shady Rest in sunny Florida. Last night I might as well have been at the VFW hall.

McCain came across like a pompous old windbag telling war stories - like he was the only POW, how he "truly" loves America (like the rest of us don't) and that he (alone) is truly her "servant".

Oh give it a rest!

He's a militarist through and through. He believes the military is the answer to all our problems, first, last and always.

When Johnny gets that wistful, far away look in his eyes, deep in his reminiscing about his "old soldier" comrades, he is doing what every old codger does who knows his best days are behind him - he's thinking that, even with the suffering, those were the best days of my life.

Posted by: toritto | September 5, 2008 9:52 AM | Report abuse

Today's headlines:

"Jobless rate soars to 6.1%
Unemployment surges to 5-year high as employers cut workers for eighth straight month, bringing '08 job losses to 605,000."

Why do we want the same for 4 more years?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 9:51 AM | Report abuse

Only way to ATTEMPT to discredit me or ATTEMPT to shut me up????? Calling me an Aussie, Canadian?????? ROTFLOL
I'm full blooded AMERICAN born in the USA that is tired of my country being sold off a piece at a time and just because you choose to be blind and jump off a building don't mean I'm going to jump with you...
You might want to check your own spelling tho. :)

Posted by: More constant than bitter | September 5, 2008 9:48 AM | Report abuse

Palin stated that her son joined the service on 9-11 and will be sent to IRAQ on 9-11."God will bless us and save us if we vote for the govener that is most famous"

Posted by: Scott Davis | September 5, 2008 9:47 AM | Report abuse

Ummm Scott David,
And the judgemental analyzing you've just attempted to throw at me simply rolled down my back. Typical democrat falsely judging.

Posted by: More constant than bitter | September 5, 2008 9:39 AM | Report abuse

I can't see how Senator McCain can suggest that he will be the force of change. The alignment of his voting record with Bush is one thing. Had his recent switches on taxes, torture, stem cells and other items for political expediency been made earlier, it is difficult to see where his voting record would have differed from Bush, one exception being his repudiation of his own efforts at immigration reform, the one and only issue supported both by Democrats and Bush.

As for his assertion that he never places personal or party politics country, he contradicts his own words in his 2002 memoir "Worth the Fighting For", in which he regrets having done just that--"There have been times when I put my personal ambitions before the public interest"

I am continually amazed at the ability of Republicans to assert things that are flatly contradicted by fact.

Posted by: Art | September 5, 2008 9:38 AM | Report abuse

That was the worst political speech I have ever seen in my lifetime.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 9:38 AM | Report abuse

Cindy's creepy delivery seemed really fake. McCain's poor delivery was even worse than normal for him! He is beyond awful, coming across as old, bored and distracted. The 911 montage was especially exploitive in my opinion. Starting it off with the pictures of the Iranian hostage crisis then right to the twin towers, completely irrelevant to the evening. I guess now that Americans have finally put to bed the notion Iraq was responsible for 911, the low info voters will think Iran is somehow involved. Talk about misleading. The same old vote for us or you will die Republican handbook won't work this time!! Eight is more than enough!

Posted by: radio3142 | September 5, 2008 9:37 AM | Report abuse

Wrong Joe, AGAIN.
That was many of your democratic senators that voted for and then against the war. ie Senator Clinton

Posted by: More constant than bitter | September 5, 2008 9:36 AM | Report abuse

More constant.
You are obviosly angry and full of hate,I feel sorry for you.Unfortunatly that seems to be the intened result of the Republican Party.Scott Davis (white guy)

Posted by: Scott Davis | September 5, 2008 9:30 AM | Report abuse

Not much change in his speech. The usual " I got shot down" stuff over and over again.

The only thing new was the "hot" VP. And she's not new on policy. Same old thing big business, big oil, big money, pro-life, no sex ed in schools. In other words, one big step backwards into the same old thing.

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Posted by: muppet | September 5, 2008 9:29 AM | Report abuse

And if you don't want to believe me check out the new history books, where they are trying their bests to leave out the reality of 911.

Posted by: More constant than bitter | September 5, 2008 9:29 AM | Report abuse

I find it incredibly hypocritical that after three solid days of "partisan fighting" that McCain takes the stage and decries the very thing that has been the majority of what happened at his convention. Did McCain actually watch any of those speeches or is his bed time at six o'clock?

Posted by: Kevin | September 5, 2008 9:28 AM | Report abuse

I remember that day vividly as well. I believe a tribute honors the victims. Period.

Posted by: CTgirl | September 5, 2008 9:28 AM | Report abuse

911 Tributes are not fearmongering....... 911 is reality!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Terrorist Muslims and media perhaps program some to believe that garbage, but most of us remember that horrible day vividly.

Posted by: More constant than bitter | September 5, 2008 9:26 AM | Report abuse

Well Joe, nice repeat of the media bs, but the facts are PROVE IT OTHERWISE STOP ACCUSING.
It took congress' approval. So prove it.

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Congress approved it because they were presiding over an electorate that was tarring and feathering anybody who wasn't all about going to war. It is amazing to me that you want to shift the blame for this onto your representatives in Congress when they were voting exactly the way you wanted them to. At the end of the day, this nation is ruled by the people, and it is clear to anybody who was alive and over the age of 15 that in 2003, a vast number of the people wanted to Go Get Iraq.

The reason people felt that way is because they were blindly listening to President Bush make a shakey case for war and ignoring all of the facts they didn't want to hear. They wanted to go beat up on the terrorists so badly that they didn't care if they even got the right guy (which, as it turns out, they didn't). Now the money's gone, the real bad guy is still out there, and we don't have the strength or the stamina to pursue him.

Do I really have to recount this? You were there in 2003, too. You know what happened. Try to stop and think this time around. I'm not saying "Don't vote for McCain". I'm just saying don't do it for the ridiculous reasons you're posting here.

Posted by: Joe | September 5, 2008 9:26 AM | Report abuse

I also found it funny and hypocritical when in the introduction of Cindy McCain the narrator spoke of John and Cindy's first meeting in which both of them lied about their ages, he said he was 37 she said she was 27.

Then Cindy talked about how truthful and honest John McCain the man is.

Give me a break.

Posted by: Obama-Junkie | September 5, 2008 9:25 AM | Report abuse

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So Scott, what's wrong with so many white people in one place at one time? Isn't that a racist statement????????
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It illustrates the lack of diversity and how out of touch his campaign and party is. Pretty simple.

Racist? That's for your to decide, but the facts are facts. Less than 2% of the delegation was non-white.

Posted by: Koronin | September 5, 2008 9:23 AM | Report abuse

Personally, I thought McCain's speech was fine if you were at a book signing event preparing to buy his autobiography.

Posted by: Obama-Junkie | September 5, 2008 9:22 AM | Report abuse

I read the following post with some disbelief:

"What the president has done since we were already entering into a recession, upon his taking office is spend money to supply our troops with needed armour and equipment to fight a war, while rewarding them for their service to our great country.
But then waut didn't the dems push a pay raise through for themselves AGAIN? And a few other things they felt entitled."

Posted by: More constant than bitter | September 5, 2008 9:05 AM

"More constant" posts as an American but isn't an American. I call shenanigans. Look closely at his or her spelling of "armor", the American English spelling of the word. It's spelled "armour", the Commonwealth Nations' spelling for the word. "More constant" is probably Canadian, but could be a Brit or Aussie. Nothing smarmier than a foreigner trying to pose as a Republican. Go back to whatever country you came from and leave American political opinion to Americans. Or at least be honest enough to identify yourself as a foreigner.

Posted by: True American | September 5, 2008 9:21 AM | Report abuse

Empty sums it up well.
David, king of Isreal killed a giant with a sling shot. And David was a small guy.

Posted by: More constant than bitter | September 5, 2008 9:21 AM | Report abuse

I was bored by McCain's speech. And, just like Governor Palin's speech Wednesday evening, McCain's moment offered no specifics as to what he would do to help the American people. A missed opportunity.

A side note: I was appalled by the 9/11 tribute video. I kept saying to my husband, "When is the tribute going to start?" Shameful fearmongering...

Posted by: CTgirl | September 5, 2008 9:20 AM | Report abuse

So Scott, what's wrong with so many white people in one place at one time? Isn't that a racist statement????????

Posted by: More constant than bitter | September 5, 2008 9:17 AM | Report abuse

Honored hero promises to Kill the Beast!
The Beast turns out to be the audience in the hall.

Posted by: emptyk | September 5, 2008 9:14 AM | Report abuse

Well Joe, nice repeat of the media bs, but the facts are PROVE IT OTHERWISE STOP ACCUSING.
It took congress' approval. So prove it.

Posted by: More constant than bitter | September 5, 2008 9:14 AM | Report abuse

Have you ever seen so many white people in one place at one time.This was just cookie cutter stuff.This country is in sad shape if people just accept slogans.

Posted by: Scott Davis | September 5, 2008 9:14 AM | Report abuse

Truly an uplifting speech. No it wasn't flashy. Yes I vote gop most of the time, simply because I'm pro-life. You can call that narrow, but we all have issues were passionate about. Mccain put out a call to all americans to serve. You can say he voted with Bush 90% of the time, but truthfully most votes get passed and democrats voted with Bush 60% of the time including Obama. Obama's record shows he very seldom if ever reach across party lines, and I believe that's what most americans of BOTH parties are sick of. Let's get some stuff done with real change.

Posted by: Truth | September 5, 2008 9:14 AM | Report abuse

mclame/same/insane/cain was old tired and generally representative of most of whats gone wrong with politics.

Posted by: easyenough | September 5, 2008 9:14 AM | Report abuse

So what you're saying anoldbull, is any old lie will do??????????
And what is the other side going to do???????????
Make our military cow down to their parting the waters??????

Posted by: More constant than bitter | September 5, 2008 9:10 AM | Report abuse

Senator McCain voted with the president on almost every issue or funding for our military and before one complains go take that rifle and fight with it and then come back and bad mouth those that were trying to keep our men and women with the needed supplies and armour to fight the battle the nation sent them to do!!!!!!!

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Better plan. Let's not send them to meaningless wars based on intentionally misinterpreted intelligence next time. That way, we won't have all of the foreign policy nightmares, loss of global political influence, more dead americans than we had on 9/11 (not to mention the staggering civilian casualties in Iraq), and psychological trauma for many of the soldiers who were sent over there. Also, we wouldn't be spending trillions of dollars we don't have and driving ourselves further into debt.

Incidentally, my brother is back from Iraq as of two weeks ago, and he prefers Obama to McCain. The people who really get under his skin (and his wife and daughter's skin) are folks like who you sent him there in the first place. He'd like to be raising his family, but because this country won't stop and think for half a second before being led around like blind sheep, he's been in the desert for the better part of 2008.

Posted by: Joe | September 5, 2008 9:08 AM | Report abuse

Have a great day all!

Posted by: More constant than bitter | September 5, 2008 9:06 AM | Report abuse

McCain's speech was 99% content free. He repeated the bio again. He praised his mother. He thanked the politicians who help him. He promised this and that. But he had no specifics of legislation he would like to pass. He neglected the sad state of the economy and the lack of world leadership. He avoided the health care issue. High taxes on working people were not discussed. And no mention of a smaller government. Blah, blah, blah. I was very disappointed that he had so little grasp of what people want to hear before they might vote for him

Posted by: anoldbull | September 5, 2008 9:05 AM | Report abuse

What the president has done since we were already entering into a recession, upon his taking office is spend money to supply our troops with needed armour and equipment to fight a war, while rewarding them for their service to our great country.
But then waut didn't the dems push a pay raise through for themselves AGAIN? And a few other things they felt entitled.

Posted by: More constant than bitter | September 5, 2008 9:05 AM | Report abuse

He looked liked he had just left the embalmer's, and he sounded like an old man wistfully looking back over his career. It was like a retirement party, "We wish John well in his golden years etc...." before he rides off into the sunset and a nursing home.

His reform thing is a joke too. How can he claim any kind of reform agenda when he voted with Bush %95 percent of the time. Meanwhile his running mate represents the very worst of America, paranoid and ignorant. She's a total horror show, a liar and a flagrant abuser of power. The Straight Talk Express is an express train to the stone age.

Posted by: h1000 | September 5, 2008 9:01 AM | Report abuse

I was happy to see the return of the lime-green back-ground ... I guess the stage managers of RNC will not put it on ther resumes, it was awful!

Posted by: SW H2Ofront | September 5, 2008 8:59 AM | Report abuse

McCain claiming himself as an agent of change is ludicrous. Only the truely credulous would believe he has an interest in changing anything. The Republicans have controlled the government for 6 of the last 8 years and we can see how well that went. The last 2 years have been gridlock because of a hostile president with the veto pen welded to his hand. Voting McCain in would be 4 more years of gridlock. No thanks.

Posted by: same sh!t, different day | September 5, 2008 8:57 AM | Report abuse

LOL
Reagan, was a GREAT president!!!!! When did the American people realize that he was the best ever? Long after his administration ended. And guess what people President Reagan didn't much care if you liked it or approved, he just went ahead and did the right thing anyway.
Now sing his praises. All he received while in office was he didn't do a thing right.

Posted by: More constant than bitter | September 5, 2008 8:56 AM | Report abuse

"I used to respect and admire John McCain in 2000 and I am very disappointed in him. I am not even sure where to start. It really boils down to selling his soul for power. Eight years ago he truly spoke about the agents of intolerance and now he has elevated one of their disciples to be his vice president."

Posted by: Peter Zenger | September 4, 2008 11:20 PM
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...nail on head...

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 8:51 AM | Report abuse

So if we were already heading into a recession (which may be true)when Bush took office, what has he done to remove us form it??
Thought so

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 8:47 AM | Report abuse

Someone willing to throw my country down the pipes for an unknown tell me I don't understand??? rotflol No wonder your voting the wrong way. Faulure to see or want to see the whole picture is exactly what is needed to promote their let the government do it for you, mentality.

Posted by: More constant than bitter | September 5, 2008 8:43 AM | Report abuse

lol
you get the other side in there and you'll be the one running with no place to hide.

Posted by: More constant than bitter | September 5, 2008 8:39 AM | Report abuse

Well said More Constant! People seems to forget that we were entering into a recession in Nov. 2000 (Bush wasn't in office until Jan. 2001, you do the math). Plus, we can also thank Clinton for advocating for China's permanent seat in the WTO and for NAFTA and let's not forget Hillary-care...that was an awesome reform of healthcare...now they have the audacity to preach to us about how bad health is. We already have universal healthcare, it's called Medicaid and Medicare...look at how great that is!! Under Obama, that's what will have to look forward to.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 8:37 AM | Report abuse

Unbelievable!!!!!!!!
Senator McCain voted with the president on almost every issue or funding for our military and before one complains go take that rifle and fight with it and then come back and bad mouth those that were trying to keep our men and women with the needed supplies and armour to fight the battle the nation sent them to do!!!!!!!

Posted by: More constant than bitter | September 5, 2008 8:35 AM | Report abuse

Anyone that is just now concerning themselves with the cost of this war just should have been paying attention during the 8 years prior to GWB..... REMEMBER, when you were being told how great things were by the media, while the laws were being put on the books that are just NOW showing up. Wow sure pays to pay attention ALL THE TIME, not just when the media starts telling ya the economy sucks. I wouldn't rely on the media for my bread and butter as so many seem to do.

Posted by: More constant than bitter | September 5, 2008 8:28 AM | Report abuse

John MCcain is a Republican. He voted with George Bush over 90% of the time. He is no maverick. He has been in Washington for over 30 years. He is a war hero but his party does not deserve to be re-elected this fall. Sorry John,you can run but you cannot hide from your party....

Posted by: Johnny K | September 5, 2008 8:27 AM | Report abuse

It was a very awkward speech. Does he expect voters to simply disregard the nice things he said about Bush up to last night? Or ignore the relentless partisan attacks on Obama? And what about the economy? He swung and missed at a lot of pitches…

http://www.political-buzz.com/

Posted by: mp | September 5, 2008 8:23 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: clr | September 5, 2008 12:42 AM

according to "experts" you can tell how your speech went over by the negative responses of your opponents. shows mccain did great !! the reason obama does badly with voters over 50 ?? cause we've heard his kind of bs for years.


Maybe there are very few post about how well he did because he WAS really bad.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 8:22 AM | Report abuse

Shiloh, it's not rocket science. Anyone can check facts at snoops.com. So save the attacks after not before someone makes statements.
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Posted by: More constant than bitter | September 5, 2008 8:22 AM | Report abuse

"This was an awful speech, confirming that John McCain has morphed from a maverick into a panderer."
Pandering?You got to kidding.As many have pointed out,McCains was probably the only acceptance speech ever that slammed his own party.That s pandering?Get real.He proved that he is a true Maverick.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 8:20 AM | Report abuse

I thought McCain did well, but the speech didn't fit with the rest of the convention nor with McCain's own partisan record of the past eight years. If the whole convention had taken McCain's tone, and if the Republicans (often with the enthusiastic, line-toeing support of McCain) hadn't been in power for the past eight years, and much of the past thirty, I would have been more impressed and convinced.

Also, as I listened to all the talk about security and protecting future generations from attacks, I kept thinking of that growing mountain of debt that we are passing on to our children. I'm confident we can kick the crap out of terrorists, no matter who is president, but I'm afraid that our national debt will bring our country to its knees. In any event, it's immoral to pass our bills on to our children, saddling them with the crippling costs of our fiscally irresponsible behavior. Neither candidate addressed the problem of the debt with the requisite alarm I think it deserves, but Republicans don't even seem to think it's a problem (or they are avoiding the issue because they are largely responsible for creating the problem).

The Republican party needs to change before it can bring change to Washington. Since Reagan, the Republicans have been the flip side of the ultra-liberals, also seeking to impose their worldview, religious beliefs, and social mores on others. I hope the Republicans "get back to basics" as McCain advocates (fiscal responsibility, small government, libertarian ideals, etc.) so that I can vote for them again. We'll see. In the meantime, my vote is up for grabs and will go to the candidate/party that moves closest to the center and farthest away from the divisive, angry, partisan politics we've had too much of lately.

Posted by: Tom | September 5, 2008 8:20 AM | Report abuse

Sorry Joe,
You will not now or ever speak for me, I'm not a do what I'm told by the media/government person. I'm not running for office of any kind. I will not forget 911 and anyone that does is not seeing the whole picture. I WILL NOT FORGET 911 NOR WILL I STOP TALKING ABOUT THE SLAUGHTER OF THOUSANDS OF MY FELLOW AMERICANS.

Posted by: More constant than bitter | September 5, 2008 8:18 AM | Report abuse

This was an awful speech, confirming that John McCain has morphed from a maverick into a panderer.

Posted by: Ernest Kundert | September 5, 2008 8:15 AM | Report abuse

More constant seems to have an aversion to facts and will probably dispute these real numbers:

BIRTHS TO UNWED MOTHERS, 2005*

Total: 1,527,000 (100%)

White: 1,023,000 ( 67%)

Black: 439,000 ( 29%)

Source: Table 18, CDC National Vital Statistics Report, Vol. 56, No. 6 (*2005, Most recently available)

Posted by: Shiloh | September 5, 2008 8:13 AM | Report abuse

Great read Liza!!!!!
One point is that when we turned over and lost control, in the it takes a village to raise a child, period is when the government was given authority over parents, educators, police officers, etc.
Tell me why a police officer should make an arrest say on a dui and the judge lets the offender walk. How does that officer feel inside about the risks he took, his time and service? And how would the judge feel if his/her child was struck by a driver intoxicated? What we don't need is more government control... period

Posted by: More constant than bitter | September 5, 2008 8:12 AM | Report abuse

Joe:"I'd like to believe it. In 2000 I did believe it, in fact. But his VP pick certainly works for the party. His campaign manager works for the party, and so does his speech writer. As of late, his views seem to be skewing from the middle toward party lines"

Agree.But I think its obvious why he had soften his stand in his fight against Bush.He needs the republican base to get elected and we all know how much they love him.However I do not believe that this is a man who will ever be a puppet in their hands the way GWB is.
BTW,I am sure that you have noticed even Sen Obama shifting/softening many of his his positions pragmatically.After all you need to get elected first.

Posted by: J | September 5, 2008 8:10 AM | Report abuse

He put me to sleep. I missed the last bit.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 8:10 AM | Report abuse

911 is ONE day none of us better ever forget!!! And saying it was used as a political tool is far far reaching. The NY mayor worked the whole thing and he won't ever forget what he saw.

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I won't ever forget it, because I was there, too, less than a mile away. That doesn't change the fact that 9/11 is a *huge* political tool and has been for the last 7 years. It has been used to rally the population behind a pointless and misguided war in Iraq that has cost us a ridiculous amount of money (for which we all should be outraged, given our financial situation, and yet we somehow aren't). It has been used to quell complaints about violations of the constitution, turn us into a country that admits torture, and allow illegal spying on our own citizens. We all need to be asking ourselves how a handful of people and four airplanes have managed to destroy so much of what the United States really is. The ones who did the most damage to our country aren't from overseas.

Posted by: Joe | September 5, 2008 8:10 AM | Report abuse

I was surprised by the bored reaction shots I kept seeing because the crowd noise seem quite loud but maybe that was just the control room. Pretty much a fact-less speech which is my big concern. "Cut wasteful government programs that nobody wants"---great is that 1 billion or 400 billion because it's not meaningful if it's a drop in the bucket. Last 10 minutes was very good, don't know if that many people were still watching after the first 45.

Posted by: Bandit | September 5, 2008 8:07 AM | Report abuse

I don't doubt that, you just don't understand it.

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anonymous, is that all you got?
Everything I've typed has been verified.

Posted by: More constant than bitter | September 5, 2008 7:51 AM

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 8:02 AM | Report abuse

As an independent,I wanted hear from McCain why I should vote for the republicans after these horrible Bush years.I think he answered the question clearly enough when he said that he dont work for any party.I believe it because looks like he has the record to prove it.

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I'd like to believe it. In 2000 I did believe it, in fact. But his VP pick certainly works for the party. His campaign manager works for the party, and so does his speech writer. As of late, his views seem to be skewing from the middle toward party lines (evidenced by the often-quoted voted-with-Bush statistics). I'll buy that once upon a time, not too long ago, he was the guy he's saying he is now. And deep down, I even hope that he really still is, and maybe he's just doing all of this as lip service to the far right so he can get them on board for the election. But outside of hoping, he just doesn't seem to be the maverick he used to be.

Posted by: Joe | September 5, 2008 7:58 AM | Report abuse

9/11 was the work of a very few men who could have never dreamed how successful they would become. They, because of an irrational president, managed to destroy our whole way of life do a degree. Effect our politics, economy, everything we do. By our irrational reaction, we in effect let them win.. Do you think we are defeating Al-Qaeda fighting in Iraq? Are you kidding, Al-Qaeda operates in over 80 countries. Being in Iraq lets them off the hook completely to do as they please, as we waste our time in Iraq. They are winning every day they keep us there as a diversion. I hope you don't think Al-Qaeda wants us to leave Iraq? George Bush is playing into their hands. Everything Obama says is true. He should go the next step and say "Anyone who wants to keep us in Iraq are just traitors". When you hear people like General Paterious say we need more troops to fight the war in Iraq he is just being a good solider. You always can use a few more troops. The problem is, "WE ARE FIGHTING THE WRONG WAR".

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911 is ONE day none of us better ever forget!!! And saying it was used as a political tool is far far reaching. The NY mayor worked the whole thing and he won't ever forget what he saw. And he didn't just see one or a few cases... He saw thousands. He won't forget and I sure the heck won't either nor will I stop talking about or try to do as the muslim terrorist are pushing for now, saying IT NEVER HAPPENED.

Posted by: More constant than bitter | September 5, 2008 7:30 AM

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 7:58 AM | Report abuse

It was the most boring confession I've ever seen. At least he admitted that it was his party, his 90% Yes sir President who screw America up.

Posted by: Ursula | September 5, 2008 7:57 AM | Report abuse

Mando, Senator McCain did NOT once say the administration messed up. And yes he gave credit to our president and the best first lady this country has ever had.
We've had two democrat presidents in how many years? 40? And one of them was impeached, so lets be careful about throwing those stones, just might hit ones self.

Posted by: More constant than bitter | September 5, 2008 7:57 AM | Report abuse

More constant than bitter,
Hate?? I don't hate anyone. That's a harsh word. I just want everyone to have the correct facts. That's all. PLEASE take the time to compare the deaths YOU reported vs. the ACTUAL report. THEY ARE NOT THE SAME!

http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/natsec/RL32492.pdf

Posted by: Dennis | September 5, 2008 7:53 AM | Report abuse

Well said Lisa. That is the smartest thing I've read all night!

Posted by: John | September 5, 2008 7:53 AM | Report abuse

anonymous, is that all you got?
Everything I've typed has been verified.

Posted by: More constant than bitter | September 5, 2008 7:51 AM | Report abuse

I am tired of all the whining us Americans continue to do. Stop waiting for the Government to fix ALL of your problems and do something to better your lives, like taking responsibility for your actions...Yes, our actions have consequences and we should all own up to them. If your life isn't what you dreamed it would be, well, guess what? It's probably because of some past decision you made, or failed to make...that's what the present is, the result of previous decisions we've made in our lives. Stop blaming everyone else for what's going wrong in your own lives and take responsibility because, chances are, your life is hard because you made it that way. It's a good thing that McCain, and many other soldiers like him, have sacrificed so much, so that we Americans can sit at our computers and say whatever disrespectful and crude comment we like. As a first-generation Cuban-American I believe that we have become a nation of slackers, of people who are unwilling to make any self-sacrifices for the betterment of our country. We want everything to be handed to us and fail to realize that we all have to work hard and contribute to our society in order to preserve our rights and freedoms and help our country progress. I honestly believe that the reason why so many Americans take our way of life for granted is because they are so far removed from their Ancestors, who struggled and work diligently in order to make a better life for themselves and their families...throughout our history, someone sacrificed something for our way of life today and I think it's time we all return the favor. In other words, many Americans today are nothing more than a bunch of selfish ingrates...maybe that's why they prefer to worship Paris Hilton or Britney Spears and other "celebrities" rather than REAL American heroes. We can thank the "Hippie" generation for the degradation of this country's value and way of life. There's nothing wrong with questioning Government and our elected leaders,that's one of the reason why our country is so great, because we can do so without worrying about the reprecussions. But when did it become acceptable to become so disrespectful towards authority, especially towards the presidential office. It is possible to voice our opinions and dissatisfaction without being so disrespectful. Perhaps that is the reason we now have generations of kids who fail to show respect towards their each other, teachers, police officers, the elderly, and their parents. Again, our actions have consequences and I believe we are seeing the fruits of our labor. WE MUST LEAD BY EXAMPLE!!! I am not some "extreme, right-winged conservative, who is out of touch with society." On the contrary, I am a 30 year-old, registered democrat from Miami,Fl., who is married, w/o children and studying law. I represent that demographic that Obama "appeals" to, but I have to say that I find Obama anything but appealing. My parents had to flee from their country because of political oppression; the word, "CHANGE" doesn't guarantee that the "CHANGE" will necessarily be good. We live in the greatest country on earth and it's a shame that so many Americans fail to realize it. All I know is that McCain IS the ONLY candidate that can help lead this country in the right direction and, hopefully, help restore some of the American values that made this country so wonderful.

Posted by: Liza | September 5, 2008 7:45 AM | Report abuse

As an independent,I wanted hear from McCain why I should vote for the republicans after these horrible Bush years.I think he answered the question clearly enough when he said that he dont work for any party.I believe it because looks like he has the record to prove it.

Posted by: J | September 5, 2008 7:44 AM | Report abuse

Dennis,
Typical democrat hate!!
The facts are correct and the facts are there the link is at the bottom of the article. So before you go with that democrate hatred and name calling you better think first and think for yourself and not as a puppet. Man those dems get so nasty, so fast!!!

Posted by: More constant than bitter | September 5, 2008 7:41 AM | Report abuse

Do you even "KNOQ", what it means to vote present? Unlike John Mccain who just never even bothers to show up and vote. To vote present means you are here and ready to vote but what you are voting on is not ready to be voted on in your opinion. There are things in it you support and things you don't. You want to see it worked on some more so instead of just voting "YES" like a lot of senators do who are too lazy to fight for what they believe in. Or voting "NO" and killing what may be a good bill if it was just worked on, you vote "PRESENT" meaning "Im am here and ready to vote but not on what has been presented to me".

IT IS A "GOOD" THING TO VOTE PRESENT, IT MEANS YOU ARE THERE READY TO WORK AND TAKE YOUR JOB SERIOUSLY BUT NOT SOME STOOGE WHO WILL JUST SIGN ANYTHING MANY TIMES THINGS THEY DIDN'T EVEN READ.

If you see someone who has no present votes, they were probably not even there half the time. "LIKE JOHN MCCAIN"


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Martin, lol
If one thinks as a 7 year old, perhaps that's the way they would communicate.
If you don't even get that statement, it's no wonder you don't get the rest/real picture.
Senator McCain has a record in the senate. Obama's record is saying present 130 times.
Too deep I'm sure

Posted by: More constant than bitter | September 5, 2008 6:49 AM

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 7:38 AM | Report abuse

Cindy,
Many states have the 17 year old sex law. However, it's not a mandatory rape law unless charges are pressed.
I'm certainly not pushing go ahead make my day.... but until the good ole boys do something about the waste of tax dollars going to agencies to pay for abortions.. I'm not going to get on a holier than thou stance and condemn or scar someone elses child with a self serving opinion.

Posted by: More constant than bitter | September 5, 2008 7:37 AM | Report abuse

911 is ONE day none of us better ever forget!!! And saying it was used as a political tool is far far reaching. The NY mayor worked the whole thing and he won't ever forget what he saw. And he didn't just see one or a few cases... He saw thousands. He won't forget and I sure the heck won't either nor will I stop talking about or try to do as the muslim terrorist are pushing for now, saying IT NEVER HAPPENED.

Posted by: More constant than bitter | September 5, 2008 7:30 AM | Report abuse

More constant than bitter self-reveals when he/she incorrectly cites an illegitimate birth rate of 70% - a rate that applies only to one race.

The true birth rate for unwed mothers is at about 35%, up from 18% in 1980. But the illegitimate birth rate is rising in the white population and falling in the black population - the false percentage that More constant used for the whole.

I think More constant distorts the truth to his or her own ends.

Posted by: Shiloh | September 5, 2008 7:29 AM | Report abuse

More constant than bitter:

Actually I am Independant because I can think for myself. I do not need a "PARTY" to tell me what I am supposed to think.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 7:27 AM | Report abuse

I had a Maverick once. It never ran right. Had a rusting body that was falling apart. burned oil, could not be trusted to get you where you needed to go.


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Explain something to me:

Definition of maverick:
2: an independent individual who does not go along with a group or party

If John McCain calls himself a true maverick then why did he vote with Bush more than 90% of the time? To me, it should be around 50%.

Posted by: Dennis | September 5, 2008 7:06 AM

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 7:21 AM | Report abuse

anonymous, please tell me you're not another assuming democrat that acts and flaps before thinking?

Posted by: More constant than bitter | September 5, 2008 7:21 AM | Report abuse

More constant than bitter:

Talk about just the facts?
You lied about the war fatalities!!!!
Nice try. Stop drinking the Republican kool-ade and get your facts straight.

http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/did_more_soldiers_die_during_bill_clintons.html

Posted by: Dennis | September 5, 2008 7:19 AM | Report abuse

I was going to vote for Obama/Biden before McCain's speech and he said nothing to change my mind. I had already heard and read that he was a POW, therefore automatically a hero and also that he would rather lose an election than lose a war. The only thing that John McCain did last night was to admit that they (the Republicans screwed up when in power and that in some way he wasn't really part of that failure by asking to be elected for another 4 years. It was a boring and ineffective speech unless you were part of the party faithful.

Posted by: Mando | September 5, 2008 7:19 AM | Report abuse

More constant than bitter:

Cut and paste? This isn't even in your words.

Email example contributed by Chris L., Jan. 25, 2008:

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 7:17 AM | Report abuse

When I read these comments, I can see that people are primarily quoting whatever media they watch...McCain is a horrible speaker, Palin is a "Paris Hilton." Can't you people think? McCain speaks perfectly well...he doesn't speak like Senator Obama, who speaks like he's in a mega church preaching to his congregation. Empty words about mythological events, past and future.

I'm a Democrat who has always been in tune with the Democrat agenda and I'm certainly not a person who believes women should not be able to choose what to do with their bodies, but can't you listen to people objectively? Don't keep quoting the press..they have their own agenda, the agenda of their CEO's. Give credit where credit is due...McCain took a chance on a woman for his vp. Obama couldn't think outside the box...he went with the safe choice of Senator Biden. That is Obama...whatever it takes to further his career, even though he's not willing to get any expertise in his career field. Can you imagine a company hiring someone like him as a CEO, with no executive experience and no experience in the company's product..no experience in anything. Never. He was pushed into this situation long before he was ready.

The DNC was desperate to stop Hillary Clinton and they knew he would take ALL the black vote from her. Simple as that. The Democratic is going to be the party of African Americans if this party does not get into the present. People will be leaving the party and voting for McCain. Why? Because he seems to be more genuine than Obama. Maybe he's not but as you Obama supporters know, marketing is everything..that's what attracted you to Obama, the way he was portrayed by the media.

Posted by: hazwalnut | September 5, 2008 7:14 AM | Report abuse

Shiloh,
You almost covered the hatred there.. But not quite! Ticked because the senator didn't say lets revert to torture? Or just mad because he didn't so all those little abortion lovers could scream 'TORTURE"?????
And with one of the great funded programs We're paying for...Planned Parenthood we are now at a 70% unmarried giving birth when the program started it was 8%. So the un-wed mothers are now marrying the government instead of a child's father

Posted by: More constant than bitter | September 5, 2008 7:14 AM | Report abuse

For all the hullabaloo about whether John McCain would match Sarah Palin's performance at the Republican convention, it wasn't even close. Where was the tropic thunder? McCain may have ended his speech with a Knute Rockne-like cry for Americans to fight and fight some more -- for what he never really said -- but most of his speech was a snooze, delivered in the tone of a kindly old uncle reminiscing about World War II before fretting about how how those pesky Russians are stirring up trouble again.

McCain's answer to America's woes seems to be a program of self-improvement -- "serve a goal greater than yourself," he suggested. But he never really explained what that goal might be

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 7:11 AM | Report abuse

More constant than bitter:

You must be in the minority. Meaning you make more than $250,000 per year. Because you are the people that will pay more taxes with Obamas plan. The rest of us "plain folk" get a much needed break!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 7:09 AM | Report abuse

Explain something to me:

Definition of maverick:
2: an independent individual who does not go along with a group or party

If John McCain calls himself a true maverick then why did he vote with Bush more than 90% of the time? To me, it should be around 50%.

Posted by: Dennis | September 5, 2008 7:06 AM | Report abuse

What we've had MORE than enough is the democrat lying machine.... using the good ole boys to convience ignorance into subjection. Now give me those taxes boy... You know you need the government to run your life, because you're to dumb to think and make anything of yourselves...

Posted by: More constant than bitter | September 5, 2008 7:05 AM | Report abuse

As McCain repeatedly used the word "torture," I hoped in vain that he would repudiate America's use of torture. There was opportunity in his speech to do so, but he was silent - a silence that speaks volumes.

His silence says that a grotesque and now Palinesque vindictiveness is endemic to the Republican base.

Who can deny that psychological torture is as evil as physical torture. Was Michael Wooten not tortured by Sarah Palin's relentless abuse of her power to destroy?

McCain lost an opportunity to reaffirm his opposition to torture. He is not a maverick, he does not unite and recognize real American values if he cannot speak truth to the vindictive and bloodthirsty segment of his voter base.

Posted by: Shiloh | September 5, 2008 7:00 AM | Report abuse

"Why do Republicans first reaction seem to be name calling and confrontation?

Bin Biden?"

That used to be the case with Democrats. But with the DFA/MoveOn, Dean/Pelosi/Obama wing of the party taking over you get stuff like this:

"Paris Hilton would make a better VP than Ellie Mae McMoose from Alaska"

Just as vile and hate filled. I am very disappointed with the Democrats this election, but sadly have no one else to vote for. The Obama people particularly go after people with some hate (stupid, racist, bigot, etc.). Instead of a radical 3rd party, we need a moderate one.

Posted by: hdimig | September 5, 2008 6:59 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Dennis | September 5, 2008 6:55 AM | Report abuse

Anonymous....
Denial is heading in the direction your headed in and you would be going down for your third time with that frame of mind. Analyzing the other guy is not everyones strong suit.

Posted by: More constant than bitter | September 5, 2008 6:54 AM | Report abuse

Here is a thought-provoking matter to ponder over about Gov Palin. In Alaska there is a Statutory Rape law on the books that says that if an 18yr old has sex with a 17yr old it is a felony, and this law is implicit. Though I personally don’t agree with teens having sex because of what can possibly happen, as in the case with Gov Palin’s daughter. However, my argument is not whether an 18yr old should be arrested for having sex with a 17yr old, which I am not all that crazy about, but the law is the law. It can also be argued that Gov Palin has been an irresponsible parent for allowing it to happen, by not taking a stronger stand in educating her daughter about what can happen if she makes the choice to date and have sex, not to mention his age. This has more to do with Gov Palin being an irresponsible elected official, for not upholding the laws that she took an oath to uphold. Gov Palin along with others are treating this only as a personal matter, while totally disregarding its legal implication. I know this has caused personal embarrassment for Gov Palin, and I can sympathize with her for the embarrassment it has caused. Yet Irrespective of your differences with my opinion on this matter, I am sure we can all agree that we need someone in the Whitehouse that would implement the laws that they are entrusted to uphold. Because when we take a closer look at this matter, without any doubt there is a double standard being applied in this case, while many youngsters around the Country are serving jail time for commenting this same offense? After all, isn’t the Republican the ones that are always saying building more prisons, is what this Country needs? How can we allow Gov Palin to govern America, with this type of mentality? I HOPE THIS IS NOT WHAT SHE MEANS WHEN SHE SAYS THAT SHE IS A MAVERICK!

Posted by: CINDY | September 5, 2008 6:52 AM | Report abuse

Martin, lol
If one thinks as a 7 year old, perhaps that's the way they would communicate.
If you don't even get that statement, it's no wonder you don't get the rest/real picture.
Senator McCain has a record in the senate. Obama's record is saying present 130 times.
Too deep I'm sure

Posted by: More constant than bitter | September 5, 2008 6:49 AM | Report abuse

As a surivor of the 9/11 Anthrax attacks I was personally very offended that a 9/11 documentary piece was used as a political tool and a gimmmick. It cheapens the sacrifice of all the murdered Americans who suffered and their families. It was outrageous and insensitive. 9/11 should never be used as a political gimmick. The speech otherwise was nothing new, except McCain sorta kinda admitted that the Republicans have screwed things up. I think they have to own the last 8 years and I would rather not have a repeat of them with Beauty and the Beast.

Posted by: Jacquie | September 5, 2008 6:49 AM | Report abuse

Was that a convention or a cathedral of hate? And who does John McCain think he needs to replace ? -- it's the people he was in front of! Enough of the Republican pretzel logic!

Posted by: ken c | September 5, 2008 6:47 AM | Report abuse

If McCain gets elected and the economy tanks even further, the same folks that supported him are going to be walking around with dazed looks on their faces while trying unsuccessfully to figure out how it all came to be. Folks, denial ain't a river......

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 6:46 AM | Report abuse

What a dull and boring speech. I respect the man but his speech skills are horrible! Is it me or did he look 10 years older? The content he presented was shallow.
How can he praise Dubbya at one point and then procede to hammer Washington and what's wrong with America? Very fake. He's just trying to patronize the people who are looking for change.

Posted by: Dennis | September 5, 2008 6:43 AM | Report abuse

Just the facts ma'am!!!
Sometimes we are misguided by facts that are just not true and believe everything we hear on TV or newspapers. We worship movie stars and athletes and don't like rich people and want them to take care of the indigents.I'm sick and tired of insurance companies dictating my health plans because the government controls most of that because the government pays more of the health care expenses in this country. I've paid insurance premiums my whole adult life, now because I've used my insurance, I have been turned down by Insurance companies and put in a Healthcare Risk Pool, which is about $1300/mo. I can't qualify for supplemental income or totally free medical assistance because I have more than $2000 in the bank, but the non-citizen, non English speaking people can. Welcome socialized medicine, that's what we have. Pretty soon, you will not be able to chose your healthcare provider and the government will dictate that based on competitive bidding as they have done on everything else.
If you look at successes of Presidents, look at whose controlling Congress. Pres. Bill Clinton looked good because of Republican Congress and now we have a Democratic Congress controlling our country and our economy.Today, I think we need to disregard political sides and look at policies and Acts passed by Congress. Find out what your Congressmen and Senators are voting on or not voting on, you may be surprised. I've been on Capitol Hill, and they vote for whatever is putting more money in their pockets. I was a love and peace advocate in the 60's, but had to change my perspective on many things. This country needs lots of prayers and all new leaders. If you believe in God, or Good Orderly Direction, that's what we need. Check out these facts, quite interesting.It's none of my business what you think of me and I hope you all will vote on facts not prejudices.United we stand, divided we fall.
Interesting Military Facts
Military Losses, 1980 thru 2007
Whatever your politics, however you lean, however you feel about the current administration, this report should open some eyes.

As tragic as the loss of any member of the US Armed Forces is, consider the following statistics:

The annual fatalities of military members while actively serving in the armed forces from 1980 through 2006 by any cause.
1980 .......... 2,392 ( Carter Year )
1981 .......... 2,380 ( Reagan Year)
1984 ........ 1,999 ( Reagan Year)
1988 .......... 1,819 ( Reagan Year)
1989 .......... 1,636 ( George H W Year )
1990 .......... 1,508 ( George H W Year )
1991 .......... 1,787 ( George H W Year )
1992 .......... 1,293 ( George H W Year )
1993 .......... 1,213 ( Clinton Year)
1994 .......... 1,075 ( Clinton Year)
1995 .......... 2,465 ( Clinton Year)
1996 .......... 2,318 ( Clinton Year)
1997 .......... 817 ( Clinton Year)
1998 .......... 2,252 ( Clinton Year)
1999 .......... 1,984 ( Clinton Year)
2000 ...........1,983 ( Clinton Year)
2001 ............ 890 ( George W Year )
2002 ..........1,007 ( George W Year )
2003 ...........1,410 ( George W Year )
2004 .......... 1,887 ( George W Year )
2005 ............ 919 ( George W Year )
2006............. 920 ( George W Year )
2007............. 899 ( George W Year )

Clinton years (1993-2000): ....14,107 deaths

George W years (2001-2007):.. 7,932 deaths

If you are surprised when you look at these figures, so was I. These figures mean that the loss from the two latest conflicts in the Middle East Are LESS than the loss of military personnel during Bill Clinton 's presidency; when America wasn't even involved in a war!

(Unless you include Bosnia or the disgrace of Mogadishu, Somalia when Clinton failed to respond to terrorists.
( Remember "Blackhawk Down"?) ........

AND I was even more shocked when I read that in 1980, during the reign of President (Nobel Peace Prize winner) Jimmy Carter , there were 2,392 US military fatalities! From what?

How? I think that these figures indicate that many members of our Media and our Politicians will pick and choose the information on which they report.

Of course we all know that they present only those 'facts' which support their agenda-driven reporting. But why do so many of them march in lock-step to twist the truth? Where do so many of them get their agenda? Obviously there is one shared agenda.

Could it be from the most powerful Democratic family of the decade? Do you want further proof? Consider the latest census of Americans. It shows the following FACTS about the distribution of American citizens, by race:

European descent ...........................69.12%
Hispanic....................................12.5%
Black .................... 12.3%
Asian....................................... 3.7%
Native American............................. 1.0%
Other....................................... 2.6%

Many media lead us to feel the military death ratio is
off-balanced compared to the distribution by race in America.
Here are the fatalities by RACE over the past three years in Iraqi Freedom. Do the comparison yourself.

European descent (white) ..........74.31%
Hispanic.............................10.74%
Black ............................... 9.67%
Asian................................ 1.81%
Native American...................... 1.09%
Other................................ 0.33%

I was surprised again. Our mainstream media continues to spin these figures (for political gain). Nothing more. It's all about politics.

I hope that during the time between now and November, intelligent Americans can decipher the facts from the spin, the spinners from the leaders, those who seek even more power from those that seek justice, and the dividers from the uniters.

Over the next months let's be good listeners and see and hear who tries to Divide our nation; and who wants to unite our nation.

Who wants to control how our Money is spent and who wants our money spent the way we would spend it.

Who seeks power and who seeks justice?

Who spins the facts and who is genuine.

These statistics are published by Congressional Research Service, and they may be confirmed by anyone at:

http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/natsec/RL32492.pdf)

Posted by: More constant than bitter | September 5, 2008 6:36 AM | Report abuse

For the first time, I don't know what to do on election day. I honestly think McCain is the better choice for president, and I'm a Democrat. After he picked Palin, though, and after she gave her speech and I read more about her, there was no way that I could vote for that ticket. She is the poster child of all the hateful, combative "I eat Liberals for breakfast" that has screwed our country over for the past 8 years. I was set to reluctantly vote Obama, just to ensure that she doesn't get into an office she doesn't deserve. Then McCain gave his speech last night. I thought it was wonderful. He had me rooting for him, had me wishing he could be president -- but then there is Palin. A taker of names for her enemies list. A firer of librarians who won't remove books, of government officials who won't do her bidding for personal vendettas. An ideologue who, like Bush, left the place she governed in a worse financial mess. A person whose religious views override science. I cannot, and will not, vote for McCain/Palin. Also - did you notice the contrast in enthusiasm? Wild for her speech, more tepid for his. Last night I saw shot after shot of bored-looking people. A lot of them looked like their applause was begrudgingly given. McCain's lines that sway me so much - his stated desire to work for all America, not necessarily just the GOP - were the lines that his audience did not want to hear, and they showed it. And I should assist these partisans in keeping the White House? No thanks.

Posted by: hitpoints | September 5, 2008 6:36 AM | Report abuse

How did he do?

I want to point out one single remark of McCain.

"I have the record and the scars... and Obama does not"

"I have an A and he has a C... "
This is a remark of a seven-year-old in a competitive situation among kids.
I'm not saying McCain is senile. Obviously he and his party think that they are smart and their voters have brains of seven-year-olds. So better speak their language.
The other reason left for this behaviour can only be the behaviour of someone drowning.

On the other hand.
The speeches of Bush jr. were equal to that of McCain in that sence. And he was elected twice....
McCain might be right to act as if he is senile.

Very disturbing

Martin, Rotterdam

Posted by: martin, rotterdam | September 5, 2008 6:35 AM | Report abuse

Democrat using the name of republician!!!
Some facts ma'am on the "most of us" rotflol...
Turn the TV off. do some research and widen those horizons...

Posted by: More constant than bitter | September 5, 2008 6:28 AM | Report abuse

anonymous...
why would I go to that site?
what's there?

Posted by: More constant than bitter | September 5, 2008 6:26 AM | Report abuse

What a terrible speech. Deadly dull. For presentation, I'd give it an F for the first 80% and a C for the last 20% if anyone was still awake. That's an overall grade of D- for presentation. For content, I'd give it a C, for being somewhat conciliatory and providing some details. Overall, that means a D. I think McCain just lost the election, because I just don't see how any voter, especially Independents, could be inspired by what they saw. As someone else mentioned, can you imagine living with *that* for the next 4 years? And the contrast with Obama and Obama's excellent speech is so stark.

Posted by: Rickman | September 5, 2008 6:22 AM | Report abuse

Awe Pete, now how would you know the length of time one has been at the blog, unless of course you were here all the same time? Congrats on employment also. Assume all you like and then go get your press fix and perhaps you're one of those pill pushers. I'm not!!

Posted by: More constant than bitter | September 5, 2008 6:19 AM | Report abuse

Patrick....
Diversity is good to an extent and as long as it does not compromise integrity.

Posted by: More constant than bitter | September 5, 2008 6:15 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 6:07 AM | Report abuse

If it wasnt for the old white guys this country would not be, now you go ahead and vote for osama I mean obama, and see how fast you will be crying for the old white guys.

Posted by: old white guy | September 5, 2008 6:05 AM | Report abuse

tumbleweeds.....at least that's new, but none the less retarded

Posted by: More constant than bitter | September 5, 2008 6:02 AM | Report abuse

Well, Pete, before you go lol and Pat...
No the press wasn't telling us mothly, weekly, daily, houly the economy sucked, until the lyig dems took control. And btw if you wanta get real... try this one. When did milk, bread go sky high? When Billy Boy was in office. So the media covered it for them just as they did the rest of the mess he made that we are not living with. And if he's just be a man instead of the wimp he is/was you're right there would have been no war. But because he did nothing the first time bombs went off on our soil he covered it and left it for the incoming office holder. Also Billy had the chance to keep gas from sky rocketing prices, but chose not to b/c he was up for re-election and didn't wanta upset the Saudi Arabia's prince. And Pat you're the one that was smarting off about the white headed Senator McCain.. Just like Obama can't take the heat.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 5:53 AM | Report abuse

The Republican form of change: A new bottle of old wine.

Posted by: chen | September 5, 2008 5:52 AM | Report abuse

More constant than bitter

Go here:

http://armyofdude.blogspot.com/

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 5:51 AM | Report abuse

plaza04433!!!!!!!!!!
Osama Bin Biden can NOT keep himself out of "hot water", much less his front guy...

Posted by: More constant than bitter | September 5, 2008 5:39 AM | Report abuse

Sniper - we complain and we vote.

Posted by: luddy | September 5, 2008 5:39 AM | Report abuse

""If you were the commander of a plane that is going to crash you would see that your life and the lives of the people aboard depends more in your EXPERIENCE and ability to respond to the circumstance than your aptitude for philosophical thinking.""

Excellent point.

I would add however, as a pilot myself, that the ability to see things as they really are-not how you want them to be, not what you believe them to be, but what is really happening, where and when...is the difference between survival and death.
If you can't see it coming, or believe it can't come...you are gonna hit it.

This is why ideologues, like Bush, (or Palin) are always 'tumbleweeds'.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 5:39 AM | Report abuse

one more thing before I go - More Constant than bitter. Democratic Congress majority happened in January 2007. The economy was failing before then, the dollar was losing it's value before then, the war shouldn't have happened in the first place. It's taken 7 years and billions of dollars for the most powerful country in the world to fight a country the size of California who had no apparent connection to the 911 attack on the U.S. and we still can't come up with a definition of what a victory would be? Whose insane? We certainly don't need the same type of thinking that got us into this mess.

Posted by: Pete | September 5, 2008 5:36 AM | Report abuse

Paris Hilton would make a better VP than Ellie Mae McMoose from Alaska. Chris, it
scares me to think that we still have people in America that would even consider
voting for someone like Sarah Palin.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 5:32 AM | Report abuse

""plaza04433??????
Please tell me if we can't risk a governor being commander in chief, how are we going to do on the job training for Obama??????""

Obama has Biden backing him up and keeping him out of trouble.

Palin, as president (which would only come about if McCain had "slipped the surly bonds of earth") would have no such advantage. Her "backup" would thus be the same bozos that have torturously driven this country into the dirt.

McCain, Obama and Biden all have wide worldviews. Palin apparently does not.

Narrow worldviews are always a prescription for disaster. Good way to end up under investigation, or your minor daughter pregnant and backed into a divorce waiting to happen -stuff like that.

Read Barry Goldwater -it will all become clear if you do. He was the last true conservative.



Posted by: plaza04433 | September 5, 2008 5:27 AM | Report abuse

All Democrats do is "COMPLAIN" lol.

Posted by: Sniper | September 5, 2008 5:23 AM | Report abuse

Dear Patrick,
If you were the commander of a plane that is going to crash you would see that your life and the lives of the people aboard depends more in your EXPERIENCE and ability to respond to the circumstance than your aptitude for philosophical thinking.

Posted by: try123 | September 5, 2008 5:23 AM | Report abuse

More constant than bitter -Don't you think it's time for your medication. You've literally been at this for hours. You wouldn't happen to be paid by the RNC to comment on these boards, would you? I'm off. I am fortunate to be one of those who still has a job.

Posted by: Pete | September 5, 2008 5:21 AM | Report abuse

Failure to see when the economy started failing, the dollar started dying, the war took a very ugly turn, MY DEAR was when the lying democrats took control in congress. So go thank Harry Reid & Nancy Pooh!!!
And btw, when are you going to call the speaker of the house on HER lie of promising to bring gas prices down? WHEN?
All you're telling me is you believe all the garabage the press tells you and know little facts. And lets remember Obama said LOUDLY: Drilling here will not change gas prices.... Well, just since this country got off it and started aggressively talking about drilling here NOW... the middle east has dropped the prices per barrel and the price of gasoline has dropped a dollar per gallon. Call Obama on that one!!! He's not even in office yet and his poor judgement and lack of wisdom is pathetic at best. He makes great speeches tho.

Posted by: More constant than bitter | September 5, 2008 5:13 AM | Report abuse

Conservatives everywhere are going to wake-up today with a Palin hangover and realize to their dismay, "Uuuuugghhhh ... McCain's at the top of the ticket ... can't we just run her?"

Of course, that would require she actually answer questions from the media. But, according to McCain's advisor, Sarah Palin will take NO questions between now and the election. She's just going to read from a prepared script. Now Journalists, what was it you needed that First Amendment freedom of the press protection for?? Covering photo ops and regurgitating campaign talking points?

Posted by: Jackie | September 5, 2008 5:09 AM | Report abuse

More constant than bitter....

Why do Republicans first reaction seem to be name calling and confrontation?

Bin Biden?

What does that mean?

That's part of the reason many of us won't support McCain, we don't want confrontation to be the first response to all the world's problems.

To address your point, I don't have a problem with old White guys. I think it's a problem when the party is composed of mostly old White guys. There is something to be said for diversity.

Posted by: Patrick | September 5, 2008 5:03 AM | Report abuse

*****motivated*****

And btw, RED motivates, so hey just wear a red shirt/blouse and stop the lying...

Posted by: More constant than bitter | September 5, 2008 4:59 AM | Report abuse

I think my Republican friends would do well to take a Intro to Philosophy course and learn the benefits of well thought out arguments and reasoning.

This is what Obama does.

Republicans seem quick to reach a decision without all the evidence and then, in the case of Bush, claim divine revelation.
The noted philosopher John Locke wrote about the danger of this.

Give me someone who approaches problems from a "thinking it through" perspective before someone who has had years to create solidified, inflexible judgements and reactions to the world that don't necessarily fit today.

Posted by: Patrick | September 5, 2008 4:58 AM | Report abuse

Patrick...
I'm not 5 years old. Lambs can be movated to "go to slaughter". And speaking of old white headed guys are you referring to Bin Biden? That guy has been in DC way too long and has nothing to show but a smart rude mouth for my hard earned tax dollars. Bin Biden should go retire with Kennedy and the Clintons and take Jimmy Carter with them. Obama needs to do some real community service.

Posted by: More constant than bitter | September 5, 2008 4:52 AM | Report abuse

Dear Republican for Obama,
one gains Experience for all the things that has gone through. With all the respects to senator Obama, but he has not gone even 1/10 of what Senator McCain has walked. When you gain experience, there is little space for doubt. Therefore,it was the lack of EXPERIENCE that made senator Obama respond "PRESENT" for a question of YES/NO.
I CANNOT hire a person that DOUBTS for a position of Commander in Chief.

Posted by: 123try | September 5, 2008 4:48 AM | Report abuse

Republicians for Obama......
Again GET REAL!!!!!!!!!!!
Obama is the one shot his "mouth" off about the governors experience in the
FIRST place. So go ask Obama that ? He already can't take the heat??? He has absolutely no substance. He is a front guy. He makes great speeches. PERIOD!!!!!!

Posted by: More constant than bitter | September 5, 2008 4:41 AM | Report abuse

To the commentators mentioning Obama's supposed lack of experience, even if I were to agree with that, I believe you all overlook the value of being able to motivate.

When the U.S. population is motivated, there is nothing in the universe we can't do.

When I look at the RNC, all I see being motivated is old White guys. I mean no disrespect, but that's the base of the Republican party.

It's time for the youth to rise and take the U.S. to the next stop.

Posted by: Patrick | September 5, 2008 4:35 AM | Report abuse

Republician for Obama....... get real!!!
There are decisions to be made moment by moment as commander in chief and not just saying "present". I don't know where you got the idea the presidency is a do nothing look pretty job. Bill Clinton got into all his trouble thinking that, REMEMBER? A president needs executive experience. Obama has NONE, NADA, ZIP.
Finally, I'm tired of uninformed know nothings trashing my president. That's all Obama and Bin Laden (Biden) do and are trying to capitolize on NOTHING. So you go back and listen to those news reporters that seek to push their guy down our throats and remember this when the real Obama is uncovered. It just won't be in the office of president of the United States of America.

Posted by: More constant than bitter | September 5, 2008 4:32 AM | Report abuse

Most of us are fine with On the Job Training for Obama. Anyone would require more than a modicum of on the job training for the presidency. It is a job that is monumental in its scope, to a degree that no one on the planet can possibly appreciate its nuances and far reaching implications.

Our issue is with the Republican Party's hypocrisy in claiming that Sarah Palin is ready for the presidency while Obama is not. Palin has only been out of the country twice in her lifetime. She has never negotiated with foreign nations. She has never been a part of a diplomatic mission. She is an isolationist, Creationist, religious nutcase who is nothing more than George W. Bush with female anatomy.

Posted by: Republican for Obama | September 5, 2008 4:30 AM | Report abuse

TRUE! As it was stated before and it is true indeed: "Not that John McCain doesn't care, he just doesn't get it". That was evident in his acceptance speech alright. We made a mistake in 2000 and again in 2004. To make the same mistake again in 2008, the world would really isolate us. Please don't let that happen folks.

Posted by: ds_cenpak@comcast.net | September 5, 2008 4:29 AM | Report abuse

TRUE! As it was stated before and it is true indeed: "Not that John McCain doesn't care, he just doesn't get it". That was evident in his acceptance speech alright. We made a mistake in 2000 and again in 2004. To make the same mistake again in 2008, the world would really isolate us. Please don't let that happen folks.

Posted by: ds_cenpak@comcast.net | September 5, 2008 4:27 AM | Report abuse

Obama respects the right to bear arms. He believes and has said as much, that the 2nd Amendment should be interpreted by the states and municipalities in a manner that best suits them. In rural America (I'm in Alaska now, and this really applies), gun ownership is not only a matter of rights, it's a matter of safety. In urban America (I live in New York), gun ownership is ludicrous.

"We can all agree that getting AK-47s off the street is a good idea".

Are you pinheads done tonight? I can go all night refuting all your ludicrous claims. You haven't brought up the Muslim nonsense yet. Let's go.

Posted by: Republican for Obama | September 5, 2008 4:26 AM | Report abuse

TRUE! As it was stated before and it is true indeed: "Not that John McCain doesn't care, he just doesn't get it". That was evident in his acceptance speech alright. We made a mistake in 2000 and again in 2004. To make the same mistake again in 2008, the world would really isolate us. Please don't let that happen folks.

Posted by: ds_cenpak@comcast.net | September 5, 2008 4:23 AM | Report abuse

Drumman,
history shows that every society that has given up their right to bear arms has sooner or later fallen prey to communism, radical socialism and eventually genocide. ex: China, Russia, Cuba, Germany and many countless countries in Africa. Yes there are a few countries that are currently succeeding without the right to bear arms but there crime rates are very high due to the fact that the criminals know the citizens are unarmed.

Posted by: John | September 5, 2008 4:22 AM | Report abuse

plaza04433??????
Please tell me if we can't risk a governor being commander in chief, how are we going to do on the job training for Obama??????

Posted by: More constant than bitter | September 5, 2008 4:20 AM | Report abuse

Republican for Obama,

I think Carmen is pretty sane too!

Posted by: DrumMan | September 5, 2008 4:14 AM | Report abuse

So, which life or death situation has McCain answered in the Senate, and which life or death situation has Palin answered as Governor of the 47th most populous state.

No one (NO ONE) is ready to be president until they are elected. NO ONE. I asked earlier about resumes that would qualify one for the presidency. The resume I cited was none other than James Buchanan, the second-worst president in US history behind George W. Bush.

We elect people not on their resumes, but on their vision for the country. The presidency is an aspirational role.

Posted by: Republican for Obama | September 5, 2008 4:13 AM | Report abuse

We need a PRESIDENT that can respond sagely and accurately in tough times. Senator Obama could have many accomplishments in his life such as passing laws, but he was unable to respond YES or NOT in a non life-threatening situation. My 8-year boy could have done better!

Posted by: try123 | September 5, 2008 4:09 AM | Report abuse

When he was speaking in front of that huge picture of a mansion, my first thought was that it was one of his 7-10 houses (the number depends on where you're reading).

When he was talking about more drilling, I was thinking about all those damaged drilling platforms and oil spills and all those hurricanes lined up in the Atlantic Ocean.

When he spoke about working for "you" and not the Republican Party, I remembered how he'd wanted to pick someone else as VP but had to go with Sarah Palin as a compromise with party bigshots.

When he spoke about getting past the partisan "rancour" in Washington, Sarah Palin's venomous spewing from Wednesday night put the lie to it (completely).

When he spoke about his administration being "transparent," I thought about Sarah Palin claiming executive privilege in TrooperGate.

And when he spoke about "living in a box," my mind went straight to the sight of a Gulf War veteran living in a cardboard box in San Francisco and how John McCain has voted AGAINST all those bills to help our veterans.

So by the time the screen behind him turned bright green, I was feeling slightly billious - and NOT because I was thinking of lime jello but of how really STUPID John McCain must think I am!

Posted by: Carmen Cameron | September 5, 2008 4:06 AM | Report abuse

I feel like I'm the lone sane person left here tonight.

Obama's birth certificate:
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/06/obama-birth.html

Posted by: Republican for Obama | September 5, 2008 4:02 AM | Report abuse

I cast my first vote in 2000, for John McCain. Tonight he half heartedly pretended to be the man he was back then, mostly by staying clear of policies (he's adopted all of Bush's) and letting others do the attacking (he's hired the hatchet men Bush used to destroy him).

Posted by: Aleks | September 5, 2008 4:00 AM | Report abuse

Dear Mr Obama, Please reply yo the American people.
Very interesting…
What do you think about this one ? ? ?
The Constitution is the supreme law in the United States .
No judge or other governmental body, not even the Supreme Court, may override it in any circumstance!
Subject: I wonder if the judges will uphold this one.....
Yikes, I hope this is true. Wow! Think about this. I always thought that Clinton
had something on Obama. A birth certificate is a matter of public record. I wonder where it is.
We know that Obama refuses to release his birth certificate, and for some
reason it is not on file in Hawaii , so this is interesting. Is Obama Legally Eligible to Serve as President?
Here's something for you to ponder.
SOME TIME AGO HILARY SAID SHE HAD SOMETHING ON OBAMA
THAT WOULD CHANGE THE ELECTION, AND THAT'S WHY SHE ONLY SUSPENDED HER QUEST FOR THE PRESIDENCY. PAY CLOSE ATTENTION TO THE TIME FRAME AS YOU READ THIS.
This came from a USNA alumnus. It'll be interesting to see how the media
handles this.
Barack Obama is not a legal U.S. natural-born citizen, according to the law
on the books at the time of his birth, which falls between December 24, 1952,
to November 13, 1986. Federal Law states that the office of President requires a person be a natural-born citizen, if the child was not born to two U.S. citizen parents.
This is what exempts John McCain, though he was born in the US Panama Canal Zone .
US Law very clearly states:if only one parent is a U.S. Citizen at the time
of one's birth, that parent must have resided in the United States for a minimum of ten years, five of which must be after the age of 16. Barack Obama's father was not a U.S. Citizen, that is a fact.
Obama's mother was only 18 when Obama was born. This means even though she had been a U.S. Citizen for 10 years, (or citizen of Hawaii being a territory), his mother fails the test for at-least-5-years-prior-to Barack Obama's birth, but-after-age-16. In essence, Mother alone is not old enough to qualify her son for automatic U.S. Citizenship. At most, 2 years elapsed from his mother turning 16 to the time of Barack Obama's birth when she was 18. His mother would have needed to have been 16 + 5 = 21 years old at the time of Barack Obama's birth for him to be a natural-born citizen.
The Constitution clearly declares: Naturalized citizens are ineligible to hold
the office of President. Though Barack Obama was sent back to Hawaii at
age 10, any other information does not matter because his mother is the
one who must fulfill the requirement to be a U.S. Citizen for 10 years prior
to his birth on August 4, 1961, with 5 of those years being after age 16.
Further, Obama may have had to have remained in the USA for some time frame to protect any citizenship he might have had, rather than living in Indonesia . This is very clear cut and a glaring violation of U.S. Election law. I think that Governor Schwarzenegger of California would be very
interested in discovering if Obama is allowed to be elected President without being a natural-born U.S. Citizen, since this would set a precedent.

Posted by: More constant than bitter | September 5, 2008 4:00 AM | Report abuse

So...what are the requisite accomplishments that would qualify one for the presidency?

Military Service?
Service in the US Senate?
Secretary of State?
Provost/Dean of a major US University?
Ambassador to Britain?

How about all of the above?

Posted by: Republican for Obama | September 5, 2008 3:57 AM | Report abuse

Mike: You're wrong, I do like Obama. Just don't understand how he's qualified to be President. I think all of your justifications that you mentioned make him a fine, bright member of the community and a future leader of the country. Operative word in the last sentence was "future". He has no accomplishments. I know about the ones listed in the paragraphs below, but they hardly amount to much. Knowing something about many of them that he has his name on and I knew these would be the ones that people latched onto. Coburn-Obama and Lugar-Obama are hardly landmark reforms. And "working on" something or "a member of team" is what is expected of you when you sit on a committee that has jurisdiction over that area.

Don't get me wrong, I like Obama, but I also like Harold Ford, Jr. and Tim Pawlenty. I would vote for them in any election....except President of the United States.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 3:57 AM | Report abuse

What some people call the "easy ride into flight school" the rest of us call Patriotic Duty. Don't think Mr. Obama would have taken ANY ride to flight school for his country; the country his Obama's wife will finally be proud of if it makes her first lady.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 3:56 AM | Report abuse

I challenge you, Mr. Anonymous, to find me a shred of evidence that Obama acted inappropriately in the Rezko case. Seriously, find me a major news outlet that can prove it. Go on, I dare you.

Posted by: Republican for Obama | September 5, 2008 3:54 AM | Report abuse

Mike: You're wrong, I do like Obama. Just don't understand how he's qualified to be President. I think all of your justifications that you mentioned make him a fine, bright member of the community and a future leader of the country. Operative word in the last sentence was "future". He has no accomplishments. I know about the ones listed in the paragraphs below, but they hardly amount to much. Knowing something about many of them that he has his name on and I knew these would be the ones that people latched onto. Coburn-Obama and Lugar-Obama are hardly landmark reforms. And "working on" something or "a member of team" is what is expected of you when you sit on a committee that has jurisdiction over that area.

Don't get me wrong, I like Obama, but I also like Harold Ford, Jr. and Tim Pawlenty. I would vote for them in any election....except President of the United States.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 3:54 AM | Report abuse

It was a simple type-o, its almost 4AM

Posted by: DrumMan | September 5, 2008 3:53 AM | Report abuse

To the anonymous poster who challenged someone to name an Obama accomplishment. Quite simply, the guy's whole life is one long story of accomplishment.

He didn't get an easy ride into flight school courtesy of his dad the admiral.

He didn't grow up with the normal family background.

He didn't get an easy ride through education.

He didn't take the easy option of Wall Street or a job in a top company.

Barack Obama's accomplishment is to have made the success of himself that he has, without the traditional hand up that John McCain had. Barack Obama went from small town America to Havard Law, he has a brilliant mind.

Barack Obama's accomplishment is in his ability to inspire a new generation to politics. Can John McCain ever say that he has inspired anyone to do anything (other than change the channel?).

Barack Obama's accomplishment is to give his children a loving a stable homelife. Can Sarah Palin honestly say that the last week has been comfortable for her family?

Barack Obama's accomplishment has been to challenge the forces of orthodoxy and fight for change. He has set the tone in this election. Now we have your candidates fighting to outchange Obama. He has led. McCain and Palin are chasing tail.

Barack Obama is the candidate who has been consistently correct on foreign policy, supposedly McCain's strong point:
- Afghanistan is the true war against terrorism. John McCain doesn't agree.
- Talk to Iran. Finally Bush agrees.
- Timetable to leave Iraq. Iraq agrees. Bush/McCain do not.

A President is a decision maker. At the end of the day experience doesn't matter as the world won't be facing the same dangers it was 10 years ago. You are electing the person with the best decision making skills. Barack Obama has consistently demonstrated this.

How many major pieces of law reform did John McCain pass in his first term?

You may not like Obama, and you may think that the sun shines from Sarah Palin's butt. But Barack Obama has achieved a lot in his life. He has overcome adversity while your guy had it all handed to him on a silver platter.

Posted by: Mike | September 5, 2008 3:50 AM | Report abuse

DrumMan:

It was over 200 years ago, not "over 300 years ago."

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 3:49 AM | Report abuse

To the anonymous poster who challenged someone to name an Obama accomplishment. Quite simply, the guy's whole life is one long story of accomplishment.

He didn't get an easy ride into flight school courtesy of his dad the admiral.

He didn't grow up with the normal family background.

He didn't get an easy ride through education.

He didn't take the easy option of Wall Street or a job in a top company.

Barack Obama's accomplishment is to have made the success of himself that he has, without the traditional hand up that John McCain had. Barack Obama went from small town America to Havard Law, he has a brilliant mind.

Barack Obama's accomplishment is in his ability to inspire a new generation to politics. Can John McCain ever say that he has inspired anyone to do anything (other than change the channel?).

Barack Obama's accomplishment is to give his children a loving a stable homelife. Can Sarah Palin honestly say that the last week has been comfortable for her family?

Barack Obama's accomplishment has been to challenge the forces of orthodoxy and fight for change. He has set the tone in this election. Now we have your candidates fighting to outchange Obama. He has led. McCain and Palin are chasing tail.

Barack Obama is the candidate who has been consistently correct on foreign policy, supposedly McCain's strong point:
- Afghanistan is the true war against terrorism. John McCain doesn't agree.
- Talk to Iran. Finally Bush agrees.
- Timetable to leave Iraq. Iraq agrees. Bush/McCain do not.

A President is a decision maker. At the end of the day experience doesn't matter as the world won't be facing the same dangers it was 10 years ago. You are electing the person with the best decision making skills. Barack Obama has consistently demonstrated this.

How many major pieces of law reform did John McCain pass in his first term?

You may not like Obama, and you may think that the sun shines from Sarah Palin's butt. But Barack Obama has achieved a lot in his life. He has overcome adversity while your guy had it all handed to him on a silver platter.

Posted by: Mike | September 5, 2008 3:47 AM | Report abuse

The Lugar-Obama Initiative is a joke. Very little was ever actually done or appropriated to do anything about proliferation of weapons.

As for Coburn-Obama, the plan "including bans on subsidized travel on corporate jets, meals and gifts from lobbyists; disclosure of project earmark sponsors and recipients; and disclosure requirements for campaign contributions that lobbyists "bundle."


....do preferential land deals from convicted felons like Rezko count?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 3:46 AM | Report abuse

John, Maybe you could explain why we are the only advanced nation that so ridiculously protects the right to bear arms because of a need to protect ourselves from british redcoats over 300 years ago. Do you think those redcoats are coming back? Maybe it is because you feel that you have the right to hunt innocent animals for fun that you think you need to have the right to own 500 guns. Pathetic is what you and your NRA buddies have done to this country.

Posted by: DrumMan | September 5, 2008 3:46 AM | Report abuse

Steve:

You spelled MORON correctly. Congratulations. Now we need to work on the social skills.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 3:42 AM | Report abuse

""It was slow, overly cautious, lacking detail, and not reflective of the current state of affairs in the country/world.""

Too bad you weren't listening, especially to the first 20 min. In the opening, McCain in an obtuse code designed to fly under the radar of his base, essentially told everyone that the Republican party as it is configured today -can go to hell.

His comment "change is coming" was directed at the very forces in the Republican party that have obstructed him. And the really funny thing is -they do not realize this, nor does the media or anyone that was at that convention.

The old McCain is alive and well.

He has only changed his tactics. He merely traded his half cuban eights for Niccolò di Bernardo dei Machiavelli. You could hear the revenge in his voice when he said "Change is coming."

"We lost their trust...we're going to change that." That was the most important part of the speech.

He is the epitome of the old saying "If what you are doing is not working, do something different." That is the theme of what he has been doing ever since his fellow republicans turned on him the last time he ran.

If McCain gets elected, his "base" is in for one hell of a shock.

He knows he cannot do anything if he cannot get nominated... and if he cannot get elected. Get to the target...no matter what that takes.

To underestimate him is folly.

McCain is more a Barry Goldwater conservative than a Ronald Reagan Republican, people do not get that, and they never have. My own hunch is that McCain views the religious right and the anti-Jeffersonian republican contingent (he has uncharistically courted) very much the way he viewed his guards in Hanoi.

Nowhere in the convention hall was the word Republican evident. What were his opening words in his speech and where did they come from?? McCain is fond of literature -and metaphor of all types.

Palin. Brilliant move in terms of re-energizing a demoralized base. I believe he admires her fledgling signs of being able to speak to power, especially to Republican power, I do not for a second think he buys into her more extreme right social views.

He either figures he can change her, or that she will (unwittingly) fly cover for him against the religious right while also sending her on fools errands (again, to keep the Bush type republicans in check until he can jail them)... one thing is for sure, if she won't play ball -he will get rid of her.

Study Goldwater if you want to make any sense of what McCain is doing.

I finally decided I am going to vote for Obama/Biden... Palin pushed me over the line.

Sorry John, not going to take that sort of a risk. You were not immortal when you were in the fleet, you were not immortal when you got shot down over Nam, you are not immortal now. The country is too screwed up to chance a Palin presidency.

Posted by: plaza04433 | September 5, 2008 3:42 AM | Report abuse

Anonymous
I was the other Anonymous MORON

Posted by: Steve | September 5, 2008 3:39 AM | Report abuse

Accomplishment: Wresting the Democratic nomination from the moderates and putting back into the the hands of the Liberals? Or would that come under the heading of political suicide.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 3:39 AM | Report abuse

"

I don't want to digress to name calling.

I just want an Obama supporter to name me one accomplishment that Obama has ever had that made our country better. Just one. Not looking for a list or a college resume point, or a slogan like "he brings change", I just want one accomplishment. Winning an election doesn't count and neither do flowery speeches.

I'm looking for legislation or an initiative or a leadership post. I'm not going to down play his community organizer role (even though I'm pretty sure that's Chicago code for entry level into the Daly political machine) but this doesn't count either.

Just one accomplishment."

He helped draft and push legislation to

President Bush today signed the Lugar-Obama proliferation and threat reduction initiative into law.

Authored by U.S. Sens. Dick Lugar (R-IN) and Barack Obama (D-IL), the Lugar-Obama initiative expands U.S. cooperation to destroy conventional weapons. It also expands the State Department's ability to detect and interdict weapons and materials of mass destruction.

andddd

Obama also joined with Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla., after Hurricane Katrina to improve oversight of federal spending.

And he shared billing with a Republican presidential hopeful when he joined Arizona Sen. John McCain in sponsoring legislation that called for sharp, mandatory cuts in greenhouse gas emissions.


thats something.

Posted by: Obamasupporter | September 5, 2008 3:38 AM | Report abuse

Oh I got one thing Obama has accomplished, because of him, only murderers and thugs are allowed to carry handguns.

Posted by: John | September 5, 2008 3:38 AM | Report abuse

His work on both the Immigration bill during his time in the US senate and his sponsorship of Ethics legislation (something he did both while in the State House, and in the Senate) that called for some of the most impactful reform regarding lobbyists since Watergate (as he likes to term it):
http://factcheck.barackobama.com/factcheck/2007/12/14/f...
http://feingold.senate.gov/~feingold/releases/07/01/200...

Posted by: Steve | September 5, 2008 3:36 AM | Report abuse

1 accomplishment? I'll give you 10, maybe you could open your mind up then instead of listening to the fear-mongering tactics of your party:

Obama helped pass the 2007 Ethics Reform Law, which curbed the influence of lobbyists and was described as the “Most Sweeping Since Watergate.”

Obama and Lugar passed Law Boosting U.S. Efforts To Keep WMDs And Other Dangerous Weapons Out Of The Hands Of Terrorists. In 2006, Obama and Lugar introduced The Cooperative Proliferation Detention Act.

Obama passed the Illinois State Gift Ban Act “Heralded As the Most Sweeping Good-Government Legislation in Decades.”

Obama and Coburn Passed A Bill Creating A “Google-like” Database For The Public To Search Details About Federal Funding Awards.

Obama Passed Law Ensuring That Wounded Veterans Recovering In Military Hospitals Do Not Have To Pay For Their Meals Or Phone Calls To Family Members.

Obama Proposals Providing Improvements In Health Care For Recovering Soldiers Were Passed Into Law, Including Requirements For Post-Deployment Mental Health Screenings And National Study On The Needs Of Iraq War Veterans.

Obama Worked With Republicans To Pass Legislation, Which Became Law, Improving And Increasing Services For Homeless Veterans.

Obama Passed Bipartisan Legislation That Expanded Health Care Coverage To 154,000 Residents, Including 70,000 Children.

Obama Passed A Bill Creating $100 Million Earned Income Tax Credit As A Member Of The Minority Party In The Illinois Senate.

Obama Passed Near-Unanimous Death Penalty Overhaul Package.

Posted by: DrumMan | September 5, 2008 3:36 AM | Report abuse

Tick tock....tick tock....tick tock


One accomplishment from Barrack Obama. Anybody? Bueller?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 3:36 AM | Report abuse

Looking for an Obama accomplishment?

HOPE Act. Increased Pell Grants to $5100.
Coburn-Obama Act. Requires full disclosure of any organization receiving Federal funding.
Lugar-Obama Non-Proliferation Act. Expands State Department's ability to detect and destroy WMDs.

Just to name a handful.

What has Palin done to affect fundamental change in the country? Versus, of course, helping Alaskans get more Federal subsidies (current Federal subsidies are around $2500).

Posted by: Republican for Obama | September 5, 2008 3:35 AM | Report abuse

Steve:

A prouder moment will be when you can spell prescription. And, there are several "anonymous" people correcting your English. Some just are faster typists and get in before others.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 3:34 AM | Report abuse

One accomplishment from Barrack Obama....name it. I challenge you.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 3:33 AM | Report abuse

I take it the Obama supporters are still trying to come up with that one accomplishment.

Just one accomplishment.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 3:32 AM | Report abuse

They never seem to bring up the fact that Cindy McCain wrote fake perscritions for drugs from her charity,this wonderful future 1st Lady and didnt go to jail because Of Johns connections,Now theres a proud moment

Posted by: Steve | September 5, 2008 3:31 AM | Report abuse

Wow, oh boy & Michael!!
We are winning the war and our troops will come home heros not losers as Obama/Biden would have them become. Senator McCain stood for what was right to send more troops in the serge while all talk no record Obama voted to duck tail and run. All this would do is invite more attacks on my country. Geesh a no brainer!
Michael if u respecting what McCain did as a POW you wouldn't be trying so desperately to put him down. Senator McCain has earned the right to talk about being a proud American. And Mrs Obama, thank God is just now finally proud of this country? You spend time as a POW then come back and talk or attempt to run someone down that has honorabally served this country.
A lot of talk here about Senator McCains record. Just proves you don't have a clue. 25 year record and it's NOT at saying "present"
Gov Paulin, I loved the pit bull statement. Great one!! I also loved Piper and would adopt her in a heart beat. A little sweetheart. But then wow you're whole family is beautiful. Reminding me about a nasty comment here about Cindy McCain... Get real blind ones... She's a beautiful woman...

Posted by: more constant than bitter | September 5, 2008 3:29 AM | Report abuse

What Dr can you choose when you dont have Insurance?

Posted by: Steve | September 5, 2008 3:27 AM | Report abuse

I don't want to digress to name calling.

I just want an Obama supporter to name me one accomplishment that Obama has ever had that made our country better. Just one. Not looking for a list or a college resume point, or a slogan like "he brings change", I just want one accomplishment. Winning an election doesn't count and neither do flowery speeches.

I'm looking for legislation or an initiative or a leadership post. I'm not going to down play his community organizer role (even though I'm pretty sure that's Chicago code for entry level into the Daly political machine) but this doesn't count either.

Just one accomplishment.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 3:27 AM | Report abuse

If you would needed a surgery, what doctor
will you chose? The one that just finished medical school or the one that has been practicing medicine all his entire life?

In other words.
In this point of history, Americans must choose a candidate that supports social welfare or a party that can impulse our economy. Unfortunately, we cannot have both of them. We need a candidate that appeals to investors to create more business and jobs. It is absurd to think of universal health care when business are closing, factories are reducing employees, your mortgage is due and your stomach is doing noises.

Posted by: 123try | September 5, 2008 3:25 AM | Report abuse

Anonymous
Next time use a name instead of Anonymous

Posted by: Steve | September 5, 2008 3:24 AM | Report abuse

Lets face the general truth.

Those who vote for McCain will be big corporate businesses that will benefit financially, and conservative concerned about the moral and ethical fabric of society.

Presidents have always been chosen based more on their personal ethics and morals rather than policies.

If we as a country cared about the economy, we would know that McCain would continue the lax restrictions on big business and continue to let them run themselves completely with no regulation. (Yes Mortgage companies I am looking at you) We would also know as a democrat that Obama would return more power to the government in regulating big business, which at this point in the economy is necessary.

I am for morals and ethics, but Social issues like abortion aren't the governments to decide, not in this day an age with such advanced technologies at our disposal.

The idea the we can vote based on religion really is beginning to hinder our nation. The economy, international affairs, and education are by far the more important issues than gay marriage, abortion, stem cell research.

Some might protest that if we don't focus on major social issues, that is the end of whats left our ethics and morals. I say, we need a stable country that is respected and powerful and persuasive before we can focus on social issues.

We as a nation, and as people have to realize we are all going to have different social opinions, and different government opinions. But when the republicans say we need less government, they aren't talking about less wire tapping, less invasion of privacy, they are talking about even less restrictions on the huge profitable companies that lobby and lend to the campaign. We have come to a crossroad, a true one.

We either allow government to take back control of our economics or we let big business continue to flourish, while the middle-class will continue on it's downward spiral. We need to think logically.

Our society needs some major regulation in the business aspect, as before, the mortgage crisis is a perfect example, as is big oil companies and their record profits.

We need a dependence from oil. PERIOD. We need to spend the money in Iraq on technologies and programs in America so we don't go to war over oil ever again. Off Shore drilling in Alaskan Wildlife refuges is not the answer, its a dead end. Why poor billions into a dwindling supply? Why not a fuel source that is renewable, less intoxicating, and yes, gives us the the responsibility, not foreign oil companies. With China on the rise, we can't afford to compete with them in the gasoline market, we need to excel.

I am rambling.

In short, we need the Gov't to step in with the economy, no I am not communist or socialist, I am being realistic. We need out of Iraq, we need to focus less on religious based social issues and more important social issues like education.

Obama/Biden for the sake that we need democrats to at least put us in a different direction, even if isn't the cure, it could show us what we actually need to do.

Posted by: Stevenson | September 5, 2008 3:24 AM | Report abuse

Drew,

I guess the difference between u and me is that you actually buy the opinions of a blogger who has nothing better to do than to analyze a few sentences of Barack's book and interpret them as socialist views. So what if Barack associated himself with someone in a Marxist group? That is simply ridiculous, I would gladly call my friend any republican, democrat, socialist, or anarchist, what does that have to do with my beliefs? NOTHING. I am an economist myself and this blog's conclusion is based on nothing but right-winged paranoia. Give me a break! There is a huge difference between being a liberal and a communist. I like some socialist ideals that are nothing more than being humane, like providing health care for all americans, that doesn't make me a communist and as an economist, you should know better.

Posted by: DrumMan | September 5, 2008 3:24 AM | Report abuse

Drumman,

Speaking of Racism. Do you remember when the media tried to ruin Clarence Thomas by coming up with the bogus Anita Hill Scandal. They were trying to ruin a bright black leader. That is racism my friend. I praise the fact that this country is ready to field a black candidate. What an a great time that we are away from the evils of segregation and slavery. However, I won't support a man just because he is black. I will support him if he has character, believes in freedom, capitalism and America. Obama is a propaganda machine.

Posted by: Drew | September 5, 2008 3:21 AM | Report abuse

oops spelled vision wrong

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 3:20 AM | Report abuse

3:14 anonymous. If you read a little more closely, you would see the comment was directed at a foreigner who spoke of "you Americans." It is not fear that drive's McCain voters. We are simply not losers who want to rob the rich if we can't make it in the world.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 3:20 AM | Report abuse

And yes I have some brain damage thrown in from the blast,thanks for noticing

Posted by: Steve | September 5, 2008 3:19 AM | Report abuse

Why is everyone so quick to judge perceived misuses of power by Palin, yet we have all but forgotten about Obama's proven relationships with people of questionable integrity? And I'm not just talking about the good Reverend. Where is all the pub about his shady land deal with Rezko? The guy knowingly had a relationship with a slimeball for cheap real estate and in return received a discount of at least $400 grand on property and a good amount of campaign contributions.

I guess the "change" he's looking to bring to Washington doesn't include politicians lining their own pockets.

If we are questioning people's past indiscretions, why is this one still not receiving any airtime?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 3:17 AM | Report abuse

Anonymous
Sorry for my for my short comings nearly blind from land mine in vietnam ,dont have your apparent class,or vison or command of the english

Posted by: Steve | September 5, 2008 3:17 AM | Report abuse

NB, you must be drunk off that special Obama kool aid. Did Obama only tell you about his great plan cuz I sure haven't heard a work about it yet. All I hear is empty promises. The only thing I've heard from Obama is "lets take money from the hard working Americans and give it to the lazy idiots who can't hold down a decient job".

P.s. You should google that lovely Cook County prison Obama had built with tax payers money. It looks like a friggin Hilton. I'm glad he thinks the murderers and rapists of Illinois should live better than the homeless.

Posted by: John | September 5, 2008 3:17 AM | Report abuse

The Republican convention should have been 're-branded' as the the National Convention of Hypocrites, Phonies, Self-Righteous Blowhards, and Swift-Boaters. They had little chance of getting my vote, but the smarmy, mean-spirited attacks and bizarre attempt to call themselves a party of change settled it. I'm voting Obama.

Posted by: Tom | September 5, 2008 3:16 AM | Report abuse

The neofascist rightwingers are wetting their pants now. Resorting to calling names and posting crazy stuff like, oh everybody not voting for McCain/Palin is "jealous of America." What are you smoking, you neofascist. You are scared and desperate.

Why? Don't they like to have jobs? Do they really like it when the Republican corporate lobbyists are lobbying for outsourcing their jobs overseas? Overseas where foreigners work for pennies, making the corporate profits higher, and their executives richer?

Suckers. Or maybe the hardcore rightwingers are the rich gazillionaires who don't work for money but lie around and let their stocks make its own money.

Anyhow, maybe some people here are so rich they don't need a job, but I have one, and I have to get up early tomorrow to work for it.

Maybe you could beg for some "trickle down" from your rich rightwing lobbyist friens. Good luck

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 3:14 AM | Report abuse

Steve:

When you call someone an idiot, twice, misspelling you're as your, it let's us know who's got the brain damage.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 3:14 AM | Report abuse

Funny thing to see who's crying today...

Look at all the Republican operatives leading the crocodile tears of pain for Palin. I love it when they issue a command that "this will stop now" and just expect the press to kow tow. Blood in the water is an apt phrase, these are literally the same guys who brought you such classics as the Clinton impeachment, Swiftboat veterans for "truth", the Vince Foster "murder", Gore invented the internet, Kerry is a liar, Hillary is a lesbian, Slimed veteran Democratic senators and House members as traitors etc etc.

And now the thug Wingnuts are all crying because they have finally been shown to have no clothes, in public. The press will not and should not stop on command, there is too much profit and humor in it. Palin is an ethics challenged creationist cheerleader who has no business whatsoever being on a Presidential ticket.

Posted by: Agent Orange | September 5, 2008 3:12 AM | Report abuse

Drew:

Well put.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 3:12 AM | Report abuse

Drew
Again your an Idiot

Posted by: Steve | September 5, 2008 3:12 AM | Report abuse

DrumMan
Amen my friend

Posted by: Steve | September 5, 2008 3:10 AM | Report abuse

Hey Drumman,

Nice name. Actually I am an economics graduate student and I do extensive research into the marketplace and into the economic policies of candidates. The problem with people like you is that you won't look at facts. You just throw out ad hominem attacks. I am not a racist. Some of my favorite people on GODS EARTH are
Thomas Sowell, Walter Williams, Bill Cosby and Clarence Thomas. All successful black men.
Obama has strong socialist ties, at least in his past and you have to deal with it. I guess you are too busy getting excited about rhetoric. Chew on this and prove to me that these things are not true.

http://blog.mises.org/archives/008007.asp

Posted by: Drew | September 5, 2008 3:10 AM | Report abuse

Dear Mr. Anonymous,

Maybe you should change your nickname to "Racist Prick" or "Retarded Biggot". I hope those "aweful negro leaders" burn you until you yourself become a negro.

Posted by: DrumMan | September 5, 2008 3:09 AM | Report abuse

I am a Democrat and supporter of Obama.

I was very impressed by Senator McCain's speech tonight. While delivery was average and policy details were wanting, I came away with a sense of the solidity of the man and his sincerity as a public servant. His heart appears to be in the right place and his politically risky stands as an occasional centrist establish his credentials.

It is a source of national pride to me that both parties have fielded true statesman in this election, men who are greater than their parties.

That said, I believe Obama would be the better President. He introduces a quiet, craftsmanlike consistency that, coupled with his pragmatic policy perspectives, seems to be what the nation needs most at the moment.

Posted by: Mark Moulton | September 5, 2008 3:07 AM | Report abuse

Shorter McCain:

I know my party has destroyed your lives, but I got beat up 35 years ago real bad. I don't know where or who I am, but I know this: we're going to take the word "same" and say it with different vowels and consonants. This word will be "change" and that will be my platform. I don't need to go into specifics, just know I stand for CHANGE (*wink*same*wink*).

Posted by: Katunja | September 5, 2008 3:07 AM | Report abuse

"In a memo last spring, Air Force Maj. Gen. Craig Campbell warned that "missions are at risk" in the state's units because of a personnel shortage. The lack of qualified airmen, Campbell said, "has reached a crisis level."

In an interview on Wednesday with The Associated Press, Campbell said the situation has improved since then, but not enough to eliminate his concern that shortages will result in the burnout of troops."

This is part of the reason why we should not let McCain/Palin take the Oval Office. Our troops are getting burnt out from 5th and 6th deployments to either Iraq or Afghanistan. We need to look out for these guys too! If the crowd at the RNC are so eager for more war, then they should go there themselves, instead of sitting in their comfy homes, while our brave, young men and women are dying left and right, or burning out from constant tours of duty. Let's give these guys a break!

Posted by: No more Iraq | September 5, 2008 3:06 AM | Report abuse

Gosh Toby then we can add Thief to that Old Farts Resume HUH?

Posted by: Steve | September 5, 2008 3:04 AM | Report abuse

McCain's speech was so flat, so disjointed, so utterly devoid of any vision or affirmative plan for the U.S. -- it's hard to say much about it, other than it sucked.

Posted by: x-Republican | September 5, 2008 3:03 AM | Report abuse

BTW, for all those people who thinks Sen. Obama will part the Red sea, lead you to the other-side and to the land of milk and honey, I suggest you first look at those Negro led nations in Africa and those Negro led states in America (eg: Detroit by Kwame M. Kilpatrick , New York by Mayor Dinkins, etc.). ALL THESE NEGRO LED NATIONS AND STATES ARE FULL OF CURRUPTION, CRIME, ILLEGAL DRUGS, VENEREAL DISEASES AND HORRIBLE ECONOMY.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 3:03 AM | Report abuse

Not all of us wish "to go out backwards".

Posted by: Appropriately Appalled | September 5, 2008 3:03 AM | Report abuse

I thoght it was a great speech, to be honest. And I have been agresively pro-obama and anti-mccain lately.

I don't know. Maybe i'm the only one who acualy feels hope these days.

Posted by: Erik | September 5, 2008 3:02 AM | Report abuse

Fellow Republicans, what are we doing posting comments on the "Washington Compost" website...sorry Dems, I'm on the wrong site. See you on election day.

Posted by: Bill | September 5, 2008 3:02 AM | Report abuse

Advice to the Aussie stay in Australia
you have enough problems with your own government

Posted by: Steve | September 5, 2008 3:02 AM | Report abuse

Barack Obama should send someone back to Chicago to check his wardrobe, because it seems John McCain has stolen his clothes!

Posted by: toby | September 5, 2008 3:01 AM | Report abuse

Foreigners like N.B., and other losers who are jealous of America, are the reason we are voting for McCain. You will always hate us because, deep down, you know we are better, work harder, and are much smarter. You've been there for 5,000 years and are still killing each other. That, and your hate for us will never change. You bet we're voting for John McCain and, ironically, it is your hate and jealousy that will put him into office.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 3:01 AM | Report abuse

McCain, at the very least first step, needs to DUMP Palin.

If, God forbid, anything happens to McCain,given his melanoma, I cannot see Palin stepping up as President. No way.

Her views are fringe, far rightwing views shared by few: opposing abortion rights even for victims of rape and incest, opposing contraception, opposing sex education and supporting abstinence education only, supporting teaching Creationism in public schools, not believing global warming is man-made.

As Mayor of Wasala, she asked the city librarian how she could go about banning books that had "inappropriate language” in them.

She fired the police chief for opposing a gun law that she and the NRA, her campaign contributors, supported. She told her city department heads that they needed her permission to talk to reporters.

Citizens in the town tried to organize a recall election against her.

Less than two years into her governorship, she is already embroiled in an investigation about abuse of power: firing a public safety commissioner who did not fire a state trooper who was divorcing her sister.

This is a pattern of behavior that is better called abuse of power than “maverick.”

Although she claims to be against the "bridge to nowhere," she was actually for it when she was campaigning for governorship in 2006. After winning $220 million pork-barrel earmark money from the federal government and winning the governorship, she flip-flopped and scrapped the bridge project and kept the money for other purposes. Yet now she is part of McCain’s campaign,promising to be against pork-barrel spending. I am not to believe anything Palin says. Palin is basically crooked, and by extension, McCain is also questioned.


Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 3:00 AM | Report abuse

Lets see...advise from an Aussie, I don't think so! I love vacationing in your country, but you must only get CNN coverage from the states. Middle America will win the vote for McCain and Palin. Smart Ass college students and ex-hippies and radical leftists will be the only ones to show up and vote for Obama, then they will protest when he is forced to envoke military operations to stop Iran from creating nuclear weapons. We will all be broke, or running from the IRS, and Obama will sell us to a middle eastern country. But hey, Democrats will vote for you also...move to America and learn to read a teleprompter really well...use a bunch of words that really just end up stating the same thing over and over. Use the excuse, "I don't want to answer a question about policy before I am even in the office"...the Dems will vote for you. Also, piss off a bunch of football fans by announcing your candidacy in a stadium where a majority of the people who attend the actual football games are Republican.

Posted by: RE: Australia | September 5, 2008 2:58 AM | Report abuse

PLEASE READ THIS POST!

Here's a little news about the Princess Sarah Palin.

I ran across two news stories that shocked me regarding Sarah Palin, and wanted to get them out there. It doesn't seem as though they are in the mainstream yet, but I think they are important issues.

Sarah Palin shortly after winning election as the mayor of her small town in Alaska approached the Librarian Mary Ellen Emmons and asked how they could go about banning some books from because they were morally objectionable. Emmons was "aghast" at the idea and said she would resist all efforts at censorship. Ms. Palin then fired Emmons shortly after winning office.

Sarah Palin is also under investigation for abuse of power during her short time as governor. Apparently Palin's brother-in-law threatened Palin's father. Palin then told the state public safety director to fire her brother-in-law. When the director did not obey Palin, she fired the public safety director. She has now hired a private lawyer and will be supbeaoned to court sometime in the near future.

Posted by: Joshua | September 5, 2008 2:58 AM | Report abuse

Seriously Drew, this country would simply be better off if idiots like you stayed the heck out of politics. Is it because Barack is black that you actually believe the garbage that you wrote? Or is it because you are so retardedly religious that you actually believe Obama, just because he is a liberal, supports killing children after they are born? Do you really believe that he is a socialist / communist? If so, then you are a pathetic excuse for an American, and I'm surprised you even know how to use a web browser and post a comment.

Posted by: DrumMan | September 5, 2008 2:58 AM | Report abuse

bruce
I think your right this old disabled Vietnam vet is going to bed and dream of being President heck Iam only 60, 12 yrs younger then McCain

Posted by: Steve | September 5, 2008 2:57 AM | Report abuse

Let's see, Mr. Obama is going to bring our country together...but couldn't even put Hillary, or any other woman on the ticket and heal his party's wounds. John McCain did. So much for the messiah bringing us all together.

Maybe he's saving Rev. Jeramiah Wright for that divine mission.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 2:50 AM | Report abuse

Steve you are something. i think you need to go to bed..lol.

Posted by: bruce | September 5, 2008 2:50 AM | Report abuse

Drew
Your an Idiot,Enough said

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 2:50 AM | Report abuse

I got to admit Senator McCain's speech made me think. It made me think about taking out the trash and maybe getting the lawn mower fixed finally. It made me think about the dust that keeps collecting in the corners of the room. It made me think of anything but that incredibly boring speech.

Posted by: Tor Grogan | September 5, 2008 2:49 AM | Report abuse

Most of you people that have left comments are just bitter liberals. John McCain is not my favorite guy in the whole world but at least he does not support killing children after they have been born or terminating retarded children. The last prominent person in history to engage in such actions was Hitler. Obama is a socialist. He has prior connections to the Communist USA party and to a Chicago based Marxist group. His pastor is a racist and a traitor. So go ahead criticize the GOP candidate for his lame speech. You are all just suckers to Obama's propaganda machine. Enjoy slavery.

Posted by: Drew | September 5, 2008 2:49 AM | Report abuse

Bruce,

The facts of old age are the facts of age -- they are realities.

The real question is whether the GOP base's sudden enthusiasm for McCain is predicated on a sudden liking of McCain -- or if it's based on a realization that someone to the far-right of George W. Bush could actually slip into the presidency.

Posted by: JP2 | September 5, 2008 2:46 AM | Report abuse

bruce
Its great your Dad is 85 ,but I wouldnt want him for president either

Posted by: Steve | September 5, 2008 2:46 AM | Report abuse

Are Americans really so stupid to vote for this guy? THIS IS HIGHLY EMBARRASSING! McCain is a 72 year old former prisoner of war, that's all he's bringing to the table. He's been in politics for 26 years, so he's got NOTHING NEW to give. He will continue with Bush's policies which have proven to be catastrophic failures. He does not care about democratic rights or helping your country out of its $500 trillion dollar deficit. Your troops are dying, your dollar is dying, your economy is dying, and your environment is dying. Republicans don't care about anyone except the big oil companies and the 1% of people who are extremely wealthy.

Now let's look at Obama: Harvard Law Professor, highly intelligent, well-spoken, in great health, has great interpersonal and diplomatic skills, has a plan for TRUE CHANGE for the future of your country, and is liked by virtually ALL the major world leaders.

What don't you people understand?

Are you just a bunch of lobotomized sheep? Scared of voting in THE BEST CANDIDATE BY FAR just because he has Nigerian paternal heritage and his middle name is Hussein? WHAT A HYPOCRITICAL JOKE!

Are you even AWARE OF THE FACT that the United States' Ambassador to the United Nations is Dr Zalmay Khalilzad whose religion is Sunni Islam????????????


VOTE BARACK OBAMA; HE IS THE RIGHT CHOICE!

Posted by: NB | September 5, 2008 2:45 AM | Report abuse

Jim
Gosh I can see where he is a thoughtful man ,after his 1st wife waited for him to come home for 5 yrs had a horrible car accident Old John comes home has affairs and divorces his wife to Marry Rich Cindy ,yeah the man is a moral upright saint ,with wholesome values

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 2:44 AM | Report abuse

you people are sick. hopping someone will die so your party will win.My father is 85 and still go's skiing. My mother died when she was 59 from a stroke.You can die at any time so to say don't vote for Mccain because he is 72 vote for Obama because he is young is just crap.What are you scared of old age? Or is it really because you don't like Mccain and hope he dies
'
Maccain/Palin 08

Posted by: bruce | September 5, 2008 2:43 AM | Report abuse

I'm from Melbourne Australia, are Americans really so stupid to vote for this guy? McCain is a 72 year old former prisoner of war, that's all he's bringing to the table. He's been in politics for 26 years, so he's got NOTHING NEW to give. He will continue with Bush's policies which have proven to be catastrophic failures. He does not care about democratic rights or helping your country out of its $500 trillion dollar deficit. Your troops are dying, your dollar is dying, your economy is dying, and your environment is dying. Republicans don't care about anyone except the big oil companies and the 1% of people who are extremely wealthy.

Now let's look at Obama: Harvard Law Professor, highly intelligent, well-spoken, in great health, has great interpersonal and diplomatic skills, has a plan for TRUE CHANGE for the future of your country, and is liked by virtually ALL the major world leaders.

What don't you people understand?

Are you just a bunch of lobotomized sheep? Scared of voting in THE BEST CANDIDATE BY FAR just because he has Nigerian paternal heritage and his middle name is Hussein? WHAT A HYPOCRITICAL JOKE!

Are you even AWARE OF THE FACT that the United States' Ambassador to the United Nations is Dr Zalmay Khalilzad whose religion is Sunni Islam????????????


VOTE BARACK OBAMA; HE IS THE RIGHT CHOICE!

Posted by: NB | September 5, 2008 2:42 AM | Report abuse

Hey CHUCK,

I'm sorry about you and your buddies serving and he doing time in cages, but you cannot POSSIBLY KNOW what McCain went through!!! You don't know how much more they may have beat him compared to your friend. His family was prominent and they tried much harder to BREAK him. So, he FINALLY broke, but perhaps that was due to so much more pain. SO, please don't get all high and mighty claiming he's a traitor. You are breaking code now speaking so ill of a fallen brother. It does you a great disservice. I'm ashamed of YOU! And even if what you say is true, he has reformed who he is now. He learned from the error of his ways and THAT is what matters in life. He's NOT bitter like you! He moved on with life and is trying to create a better life for all of us; so please keep your negativity to yourself. The man suffered grossly - he deserves respect. HE should go from a jail cell to the white house!!

He is not SO old that he can't serve -- just look at his mom at age 96 sprinting around the stage. (He's most likely got here genes.) He's still probably got a good 20 years left. And, whoever criticized him for limping -- may God do to you what happened to him so you may understand what he experienced. Why are you people so mean? What did McCain do to YOU? You all need to re-evalute yourselves and your own flaws and stop attacking others for theirs! I can't believe some of you claim he has dementia -- he is in full mental capacity and apparently some of you are just jealous that he has amounted to more than you ever will! HIS HEART IS PURE!! Now, leave him alone. HE IS A TRUE AMERICAN HERO AND PATRIOT AND HE DOES NOT DESERVE YOUR DISDAIN!! He had earned the RIGHT, if ever there was one, to run for office. HE suffered for years for his country, for you, and for me! Enough already. SHUT UP!

Posted by: Kim D. | September 5, 2008 2:42 AM | Report abuse

Republicans seem to think millions of Americans, those who are not GOP sheep, are incredibly stupid. Much of the rhetoric of McCain and Palin is phony. This should be recognized by anyone with minimal critical thinking skills.

They say they represent "change," but overwhelmingly support the domestic and foreign policies of the Bush-Cheney regime.

They contend they support "reform," but offer very few if any proposed reforms of anything.

Palin crticizes the political establishment in Washington DC, which has been dominated by conservative Republicans, whose positions she agrees with on most issues.

McCain, Palin and Republicans offer no hope of expanding health care coverage or any new ideas of helping the economy.

Republicans claim to be the unique party of patriotism and "country first," without explaining what this means and how they are different from Democrats in their supposed patriotism. Actually Republican support for wasting hundreds of billions in Iraq undermines their rhetoric about caring the most about the USA. Those hundreds of billions should have been spent improving health care, public schools, the infrastructure and public safety for people in this country.

Posted by: Independent | September 5, 2008 2:40 AM | Report abuse

Hey it means a lot to me the Tina Fey look alike can field dress a moose

Posted by: Steve | September 5, 2008 2:39 AM | Report abuse

It's strange how people can hear McCain speak without seeing the sincerity, humility, and character that was woven throughout his speech. I didn't want McCain to be the nominee, I was pretty disappointed when he won the primaries and I'm sure I won't agree with a lot of what he does. But there's no denying that this is a guy who has deep character. He is a real, genuine, and thoughtful man who has found a cause bigger than himself. I am impressed by that. I thought he did lay out some basics of his vision and plan for America and I thought he challenged those who are not satisfied with America to get out there and contribute to make America better. Teach, run for office, volunteer, whatever.

Posted by: Jim | September 5, 2008 2:39 AM | Report abuse

Oh yea !! Obama Supporters. There sure are alot of them.Too bad none of them will show on Election day.Latest polls show that more Dems have more and better exceuses for not voteing. Like "I was to busy Looking for that job I haven't found in the past 10 years of looking. Clinton was theire last hope and they don't even know it. They will though. They will have to blame theire lose on someone.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 2:38 AM | Report abuse

All this talk of "Change", it looks like John McCain is the one that got changed. He's now become just another ol' Republican "rank and file". Such a shame, the real Republican Maverick is gone! He's a good man, he should just retire, spend his time with his family, and enjoy his remaining years. He deserves it!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 2:37 AM | Report abuse

Caribou Barbie as the possible President of the United States? This not historic, it's hysteric. It's quarterback McCain trying the fumblerooskie on 4th down and 98 yards to go. If the American people vote for this ticket, we should opt for mass psychotherapy instead of universal health care.

Posted by: A Bridge Too Far | September 5, 2008 2:37 AM | Report abuse

Oh and by the way my Mother died at 60

Posted by: Steve | September 5, 2008 2:36 AM | Report abuse

Gosh lets see McCain 72 cancer 4 times
Obama 47 Healthy yeah I can see your point,But Odds our McCain goes 1st and wont it be great if they elect him again in 4 yrs then he can be 80,gosh I feel safe

Posted by: steve | September 5, 2008 2:35 AM | Report abuse

Of course it didn't work. The speech sucked. We all saw it. The content was incredibly mediocre and the delivery was so so bad. He stopped any momentum he had after Palin. Now they both have to do the hard part..actually own up to the Republican record over the last eight years.

Posted by: Song Of Roland | September 5, 2008 2:34 AM | Report abuse

Obama recently urged the Fed to infuse 8 billion dollars into the economy. Ahhhhhh...OK...what is the value of our dollar now? If we did that, the dollar would be about even with the peso. Well, I guess that would solve our boarder problem. See, I just knew Obama was a smart guy. Nice Call! Secondly, even if Obama only raises taxes on the wealthy and "Big Buisness", what good would that do, promote a larger circus in DC? He needs to study the Laffer curve and get back to us, before he flip flops like he did on the troop surge and though Bill O'reily drives me insane, he proved that without a teleprompter, Obama is a lost junior senator who won't answer any questions regarding major issues unless he has his platoon of advisers with him. To conclude, I enjoyed all the political speaches...both RNC and DNC! I watched them all. The DNC obviously had a well organized PR campaign going on, and the RNC did what conventions typically do: inspire their base supporters. I do like the fact that McCain and Palin spent time letting us into their lives. We all know politicians are great salesmen and women, who are we fooling here. All I know is I helped elect a Democrat to work on Capitol Hill, I was lured by their promises and they haven't done anything but hold a investigation on steroid use in baseball...go figure! I may or may not jump ship this time, but I will definately read between the line...and I'm not talking about what is on the teleprompter.
I wish Biden and McCain were running against each other....that would make a lot more sense!

Posted by: Econ 101 | September 5, 2008 2:33 AM | Report abuse

Kim D September 5, 2008 2:20 AM, ... thanks for the message... it was long... seriously long. But I read it. Hope others will too!

Depth only comes with experiences in life... many may have heard McCain's speech, but sadly may not have truly "listened" to it... so I appreciate you took the time to write it.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 2:33 AM | Report abuse

Wow. Did this senile old man really just spend the most important speech of his life talking about his stupid POW experience? What a joke, what a shame. We deserve better. WHO CARES? DOES THAT EXPERIENCE QUALIFY HIM TO BE PRESIDENT? If so, then we should just grab one of the tens of thousands of homeless veterans that went through the same experience and put THEM in the white house... they'll prolly do a better job than this fool. What about those who are struggling to put food on the table and pay rent? What about this pointless war that we are paying for out of our own pockets? This was really un-believable. I thought I would give McCain's speech a chance, but hearing him just re-enforced my opinion of him, he is a WARMONGER, nothing else. War is all his decendents and parents knew, war is all he knows. He hates war? Please, give me a break, if he hates wars then why won't he at least admit that we were wrong going into Iraq, a nation that posed no threat to us or our allies? He knows nothing of the economy, he doesn't even know how to use a computer for crying out loud! Is this the kind of president that we want for the most advanced nation in the world?

I honestly believe that anyone who votes for McCain is either a racist, a corporate millionaire voting for their self interest, or a freaking idiot that deserves to be governed by this old prlck who will finish the job Bush started and take us all to ruins. Unfortunately, those of us who have some intelligence will have to live with the mistakes you retards make, yet again.

Posted by: DrumMan | September 5, 2008 2:32 AM | Report abuse

Steve you guys are so sure he is going to die just as soon as he is in office..lol.I sure hope you don't think your parents will die just because they are in early 70's' Wow you guys have him in his grave already.Many people live passed 72 or did you know that. Obama could get so excited and have a heart attack tomorrow you don't know. death comes at any age.to bad you guys are predicting something like death..and Yes i think Palin has the means to be a good president if that time had to come.The dem's are just scared because if she does get VP and do a good job that she might run next time for president and run against Hillary.That would be a good race.

Posted by: mat | September 5, 2008 2:30 AM | Report abuse

Politico reports that McCain's 3 closest advisors (Black, Buchanan, Salters) had front-row seats for the speech....2 of the 3 are Lobbyists....Gee, now I'M convinced that "change is coming"....You've got to hand it to the GOP. They've spent the week basically trashing the opponent and emphasizing their military gravitas....They offered no real solutions for the economy other than drill-drill-drill....This party's looking America straight in the eye and saying: "We're the only safe choice to fix the cluster**** that we started 8 years ago"....Only THIS WEEK they dropped the whole "Experience" argument (obviously Guiliani and Romney did not get the memo) and they adapted the whole "Change" concept from the Dems....They're doing this without blinking an eye!...Thirty-six years after Watergate break-in, the Party of Lincoln STILL has the guts of a burglar.

Posted by: TruthHurts | September 5, 2008 2:30 AM | Report abuse

They never seem to bring up the fact that Cindy McCain wrote fake perscritions for drugs from her charity,this wonderful future 1st Lady and didnt go to jail because Of Johns connections,Now theres a proud moment

Posted by: Steve | September 5, 2008 2:28 AM | Report abuse

McCains speech moved me to the toilet

Posted by: Ace | September 5, 2008 2:26 AM | Report abuse

I thought McCain did a middling (as usual) job in front of the teleprompters.

The part of the speech that made me shudder wasn't McCain's fault but the fault of his boisterous GOP audience. The section of the speech where Sen.McCain tries to tell the hard-luck stories of ordinary Americans ended up being a little creepy for me. The GOP crowd would interrupt McCain's tear-jerkers with wild cheers and howls because he mentioned their state.

Essentially it went like this:

SEN. McCAIN:
"I fight for Americans. I fight for you. I fight for Bill and Sue Nebe from Farmington Hills, Michigan, (WILD CHEERS FROM THE GOP CROWD)who lost their real estate investments in the bad housing market...

I fight for Jake and Toni Wimmer of Franklin County, Pennsylvania. (RESTRAINED CHEERS)Jake works on a loading dock; coaches Little League, and raises money for the mentally and physically disabled...

I fight for the family of Matthew Stanley of Wolfboro, New Hampshire, (WILD HOWLS AND YELLING)who died serving our country in Iraq."

As a foreign observer it made me think that the GOP delegates were much more interested in partying than commiserating over American miseries.

Posted by: Greg in Canada | September 5, 2008 2:26 AM | Report abuse

MCSHAME MADE 38 (THIRTY-EIGHT) PROPAGANDA FILMS FOR THE NORTH VIETNAMESE COMMIES. HE WENT WAY BEYOND NAME RANK AND SERIAL NUMBER. HE GAVE THEM THE KEYS TO OUR AIR TACTICS OVER HANOI / HAIPHONG. WHEN HYE CAME HOME HE WAS THE ONLY POW FROM HANOI NOT PROMOTED IN RANK. HE EVEN ADMITTED HE WAS A TRAITOR IN US NES AND WORLD REPORT IN '73. HE WAS OFFERED EARLY RELEASE BY THE COMMIES FOR 'GOOD BEHAVIOR' ALONG WITH THE OTHER SQUEALERS. HE WAS CALLED SONGBIRD. THE MILITARY CODE REQUIRES DEATH BEFORE DISHONER. MY BUDDY FROM NAM GOT CAPTURED AND SPENT 14 MONTHS IN TIGER CAGES ALONG THE HO CHI MINH TRAIL, BEFORE HE WAS RESCUED. MY BUDDY EVENTUALLY LOST HIS MIND BUT NEVER SQUEALED UNLIKE THE SO CALLED HERO. MCSHAME'S A DAMN TRAITOR. PERIOD.

Posted by: CHUCK | September 5, 2008 2:26 AM | Report abuse

I was moved by McCain's speech, BUT questions abound.

Will he have the strength at age 72 with already one recurrence of melanoma to stand up against the HUGE pressure by the neoconservatives and rich lobbyists all around him very anxious to hold on to MONEY and POWER... the likes of Cheyney and Rove and big corporations? Will he have the strength to withstand this pressure?


I would ABSOLUTELY DREAD TO HAVE PALIN be president. She who believes the world is flat and books should be banned and anyone who opposes her fired. She who loves to abuse power and to attack like a pit bull dog. Her town tried to organize a recall election against her. So would this country.

I hope McCain dumps her. If not, the ticket is deader than dead.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 2:25 AM | Report abuse

DEFENDING THE IRAQ WAR?!!?

Really, after we learned that there were no weapons of mass destruction, only Bush's deception. Iraq was not the terrorist breeding ground we were all told it was.

I am tired of people defending the decision to go to war in Iraq and say that it was to defend our country and freedom. Really people? Really?

To be honest, Our troops deserve support and deserve to come home with respect. I hear things about victory in Iraq, we can never achieve that because that war alone has defaced our nation, ruined its reputation and cost this nation so much money, money that this country needs.

John McCain is a good man, but he isn't right for this country anymore. Obama isn't the end all be all to our problems, but he is a Significant change.

Palin is mistake, she has the power too overshadow McCain, and bring to much drama to this campaign and focus it on her and not the issues.

Im tired of all this stuff, we need an Obama McCain Debate now.

Posted by: JohnE. | September 5, 2008 2:24 AM | Report abuse

John McCain running as the Republican candidate with a VP of Sarah Palin is as awkward as Michael Jackson kissing Lisa Marie Presley. Poor McCain ... he just didn't look like he fit in in tha convention. Where is the old John McCain?! The real "Maverick"!

Posted by: Michael J. | September 5, 2008 2:24 AM | Report abuse

no more than you chicken hearted People are doing to McCain as a war hero.

Posted by: Evergreen | September 5, 2008 2:23 AM | Report abuse

Hey Steve, I like that pitbull story. Cracked me up.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 2:23 AM | Report abuse

The chicken who signed anonymous

"It appears "The Christian Nihilist" is the only one with brain damage."

You are weak and will be among the first who hide when the wrath of God comes. The only ones with Brain Damage are John Mccain and Palin's retarded children whose care my taxes ultimately pay for. Thus, I own them all and I demand that they entertain me. Mccain in his diapers and Palin's retarded children dress in clown suits.

These people are retarded for a reason. They are paying for sin and we all must support their suffering be it PTSD or the shoving of potato salad in ears with retarded Palin kids.

Lord hear our prayers.

Posted by: Johna The Christian Nihilist | September 5, 2008 2:22 AM | Report abuse

Three days of RNC.
One presenting only formalities; bad luck; more bad weather in N O; can't foul up that situation even more. It's still a terrible mess from last time.
Second day with a string of losers and grimacing, Pit Bull ingenue VP pick offering only dishonest, infantile name calling, and insult-hurling rancid red meat for the applauding dittoheads who evidently inhabit the remains of the Republican Party "base", lots of them professed religious fanatics - - like Sarah and Dubya.
Third day featuring a diametrically opposite viewpoint ["Change is coming" ! ? ?] delivered in monotone by a dullard with a smile pasted on by a Karl Rove flunky.
So we now conclude that the new McCain Party is a dual personality operation.
Mr. Nice Guy and a perpetual 40+years-ago-war-hero proposing a changed, better America. Does that make y'all feel better ? While in his spare time he and the rest of his retinue are kicking the political opposition (and at least half the population of the USA) in the groin.
Ah, but the rubes in St. Paul loved it. Maybe better for the Grand Old Defunct Party if they had all been in Minneapolis living it up at the lobbyist sponsored booze fests ?
Well let's face it, the latter is the real Republican Party under Rove/McCain. Nowhere to go but down the hopper with that set up.

Posted by: Francis Scalzi | September 5, 2008 2:21 AM | Report abuse

Evergreen, just in case you get attack. I agree with you. Thanks for the message!

Posted by: K | September 5, 2008 2:21 AM | Report abuse

I have been in both parties. I lean more to the right now days. I have not always been McCain's fan, but his choice of Palin and their speeches yesterday and today have made me an overwhelming supporter of them. I saw a side of McCain tonight which I never knew existed. If you TRULY listened without trying to critique it (that should be reserved for later), he told how he was reformed in his jail cell in Hanoi. He said prior to that experience that he was all about himself; that he never really cared for America until he was separated from America and tortured under the communists. He said he was BROKEN by them and it changed his outlook. I had tears in my eyes trying to imagine what HELL it must've been. I saw a man who truly yearns to defeat "politics" as usual and wants to battle for the rights of the people. He wants to stop all of them from abusing us, "the people" and wasting our hard-earned tax dollars. He's in the PEOPLE'S corner!!

Having been the President of a Speech & Literary Society in college, I appreciate those who can deliver eloquently and most times, Obama does just that. But now that I have LIVED a little, at the age of 48, I'm realizing that eloquently delivered speeches are NOT indicators of a successful administration. In fact, I've become more skeptical of those who spend so much time on choosing the RIGHT words. They spend too much time focusing their energy on "delivery" and not on the nation's business. While McCain is not a naturally-gifted speaker, he certainly has a sincerity of conviction and a clearly defined purpose -- transformation of government as usual. I'll take a plain speaking man any day to the refined oratory of an Ivy League Lawyer. Words do not equal action!!! It's easy to craft a fine speech especially with speech writers hired to do the work for you; but it's another thing to deliver proven results. Prior to McCain's run for the Presidency, he was considered the darling by the Press because he worked on BOTH sides of the aisle. It's been amazing to watch how fast he was abandoned by the smooth-talking press core.

I thought it horrible of Obama to go to Germany and speak to them and apologize for our part in the war -- it was a disgrace to Americans (and my grandfather, a WWII soldier) -- at that moment he LOST me for sure. Who cares if he speaks well to a German audience -- they loved Hitler too for his great oratory and look what it got them!

I studied in Europe for a college semester and I found it quite "fashionable" to attack America and I joined in on the FUN. But through the years and many travels later, I'm a firm believer in the American message and ideals. We threw off the establishment -- the powers that be so that we could fulfill our own destiny and not be ruled by government officials who condescendingly look down on us as poor pitiful citizens who can't take care of themselves and need THEM to guide and dictate our lives. Why are we trying to return to the values of Europe? They have not generated great successes. If it weren't for us, there wouldn't even be a Europe anymore; or at least it would be a very trimmed down version of their former glory. They fight and disagree and make war on each other all the time -- is that the model we want to follow? McCain-Palin for me is the RIGHT choice for America. They want to go into the global community as a leader, not as a follower of a failed system such as Europe's. Our Hollywood elite don't get this -- they're mostly an uneducated lot who are "enamored" when they meet Europe and all its apparent CLASS and INTELLECT and quickly join the bandwagon in insulting us -- their home country. They need to strike a balance. We may not be the best at everything, and we may make mistakes, but to just blabber mouth everything and complain all the time doesn't FIX IT!! We are a very caring and good-hearted nation and don't need to apologize for WHO we are. We've done great things for the world to be proud of; we don't need to hang our heads in shame any longer. What has Europe done for us since the Revolution or the war of 1812 (when the French aided us against the Brits)?

Also, our country is mammoth in comparison to single countries in Europe and this is why we require more resources, not to mention having the 3rd largest population in the world. Their little countries are like our individual states. We can't afford mass transport like they can in their densely populated cities and countries, so we do consume more fuel. They're always complaining that we consume too much or waste too much energy. Just let them come here and see that Alaska to Florida is longer than Glasgow to Bagdad!
For all their intellect, we've still done well for ourselves, don't you think? Obama is too enamored of Europe for my taste. I'll stick to McCain and the American cause/dream. We've done just fine for ourselves over the last few hundred years--and were able to abolish our great evil - slavery. My ancestor's fought for their rights -- to give African Americans their freedom. I'm proud of that. WE (Americans) have a platform to stand on since we have been successful in becoming a GREAT melting pot -- without internal civil wars due to religion, class, or racial warfare. Others can be proud to follow our example. Let freedom ring. They're beating down our doors to get in here -- that's the real truth of America! And it is McCain who will protect America and her values; not Obama.

Posted by: Kim D. | September 5, 2008 2:20 AM | Report abuse

"We need a leader that will get it right the first time."

I guess that leaves McCain out.

Posted by: Pete | September 5, 2008 2:19 AM | Report abuse

More constant then bitter: Dream on. Glad you believe in something. Many of us do and I believe strongly that McCain cannot bring us to the level of change we need. Who called you bitter? You may want to go back and read what was actually said...if you care.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 2:19 AM | Report abuse

EarlC, you've must seen the youtube by now. just to clarify... I agree w/you that people mess up on speeches. I look for more than words.

You've started w/how everyone else is bad but Obama... b/c he speaks from his heart . B/c you've noted how wonderful your Obama's speech is, and how poor everyone elses is... I just had to play the devil's advocate.

Now, I agree he says a lot of things I like to hear... but the next day I hear another take on the same topic. THat's CHANGE I can't believe it... so I had to retaliate for your obvious biased for Obama.

But we both agree people can give mess up... hence, we look at everything they've accomplished... or not.

BTW, I AM very charitable. The difference is I choose who, not the gov't.

Posted by: K | September 5, 2008 2:19 AM | Report abuse

When did this notion that just because you've been in the military means you're fit to be president? George Washington, a general, warned at the founding of the Republic that "there should be NO military qualification for being president." Even Dwight D. Eisenhower prided himself in using his experience to promote peace and got the U.S. out of the Korean War.

Now we have a candidate reminding us -- ad nauseum -- of his "hero" status. For what...getting shot down? A hero is someone like John Kerry who rescued his fellow soldiers, taaking fire, and getting his men out unharmed...and look what the chickensh-t hawk Repugs did to him?

Posted by: Oscar A. | September 5, 2008 2:18 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: mat | September 5, 2008 2:10 AM

"tell me something. If we were at war in our county here in the U.S.A who would you want fighting for us. Someone who would just talk as our back yards were getting flatten or someone who would say not in my back yard?I think Obama would talk and talk and talk before he would do anything ..."

Umm, I think 'talk and talk and talk' is called D-I-P-L-O-M-A-C-Y. Many fruitful nations around the world are actually using this peaceful process, and it works! Unlike us with two wars to deal with - and still looking for more. We are not Sparta!

Posted by: American for Diplomacy | September 5, 2008 2:18 AM | Report abuse

London wrote: "Its funny how majority of the world can see we need Obama as our future president for different reasons."
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Lee wrote:Lets see, Iran, Iraq, China, Russia,Syria,Hamas,Palestine and more. Most of whom are our enemies. I wonder why they would want Senator Obama? Because he's weak and they know that he would not be a good leader for our country. Look at how many times it took for Obama to get a right statement out about Georgia, a sovereign democratic nation - 3 times over a few days.

We need a leader who will get it right the first time.

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The last time I checked, I don't remember Bush going out to WAR to fight. Its OUR troops who are in harms way not the president that makes us go fight for personal gain, greed, or ano other reason. How do you know Obama is weak? It comes down to decision making Lee, McCain almost thinks like a president in that he voted 90% of the same with Bush. Lets show the world how strong we are for another 8 years with McPain.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 2:18 AM | Report abuse

Anonymous
What the Hell is a Musellum?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 2:18 AM | Report abuse

voting for

McCain/Palin 2008

Posted by: Evergreen | September 5, 2008 2:17 AM | Report abuse

Is Obama really a Musellum? I heard he said no but no one can remember him ever saying out loud in public that is not and he Denounces being one. I think he might still be a Closet Musellum.Someone should check his shoes with a bomb sniffing dog.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 2:16 AM | Report abuse

mat
So you would rather have flat chest Sarah Palin protect our back yards after McCain takes a dirt nap

Posted by: Steve | September 5, 2008 2:15 AM | Report abuse

قال الجيش الأميركي إن الحكومة العراقية ستتسلم مسؤولية نحو مائة ألف من عناصر الصحوة في البلاد ابتداء من مطلع الشهر المقبل. وقال المتحدث باسم القوات الأميركية جون هول إن حكومة رئيس الوزراء نوري المالكي وقوات التحالف اتفقتا على تسليم مسؤولية عناصر الصحوة إلى السلطات العراقية في الأول من أكتوبر/تشرين الأول المقبل. وأضاف هول أن عملية تسليم المسؤولية ستبدأ في محافظة بغداد, على أن يجرى تسليمها في بقية المحافظات في وقت لاحق. وأكد الناطق العسكري وجود ما لا ي

Posted by: تسليمها | September 5, 2008 2:13 AM | Report abuse

"I support John Mccain and Sarah Palin because I think they will kick "Fast Food" out of Washington D.C., and I have a feeling they will invite us all over for dinner! May the best candidate win!"

I hope my president has much more important things to do than to invite me over for dinner!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 2:10 AM | Report abuse

tell me something. If we were at war in our county here in the U.S.A who would you want fighting for us. Someone who would just talk as our back yards were getting flatten or someone who would say not in my back yard?I think Obama would talk and talk and talk before he would do anything People would be dieing and he would say i have a plan wait give me a chance. To him he thinks talking will get things done.. Now Maccain would kick their butt. Why do you think these other country's want Obama its not because he will stand up to them its because he is just a talker and they think he is weak. Why don't they want Mccain? Its because they know he would kick their butts.If Obama was President they will walk all over us.You say no he is the one but just wait when it happens you won't be saying that any more.

Posted by: mat | September 5, 2008 2:10 AM | Report abuse

It appears "The Christian Nihilist" is the only one with brain damage.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 2:10 AM | Report abuse

The McCain speech was like watching paint dry at your grandmother's house, while sitting on a plastic couch watching a black and white TV set with only 3 stations, and two of the stations where snowed out.

Point is...I need CHANGE

Obama

Posted by: London | September 5, 2008 2:09 AM | Report abuse

Reading these posts, just disgusting.

If Obama wins we will no longer be the UNITED STATES. We will be part of a Global union.

America will be just like any of the other 3rd world countries when Obama gets through.

And the same Brain dead people will be crying out for Our Country Hero's to stand up and fight. Sorry..
You younger and Liberal generation will have to raise up your own hero's, if you can find one thats no to coward or doesn't think that it would be better to try and talk to your captures.

I truly feel sorry for the Families who have sent their Children into harms way, just so YOU can live in a Free Country.

In those days YOU deserve what you get.

Posted by: Evergreen | September 5, 2008 2:09 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Reality48 | September 4, 2008 11:44 PM

"McCain is not a typical Republican...he is an Independent who happened to run against a lot of poorly run Republican campaigns. Use your heads instead of voting strictly on party lines"

McCain's main message is that we need to vote for the Republican ticket, because they will be the ones to change "Washington" - which they have controlled for most of the last 8 yrs!

So to answer your question, YES, we are using our heads. Are you?

Posted by: Using My Head | September 5, 2008 2:08 AM | Report abuse

London wrote: "Its funny how majority of the world can see we need Obama as our future president for different reasons."

Lets see, Iran, Iraq, China, Russia,Syria,Hamas,Palestine and more. Most of whom are our enemies. I wonder why they would want Senator Obama? Because he's weak and they know that he would not be a good leader for our country. Look at how many times it took for Obama to get a right statement out about Georgia, a sovereign democratic nation - 3 times over a few days.

We need a leader who will get it right the first time.

Posted by: LeeHInAlexandria | September 5, 2008 2:08 AM | Report abuse

What is this a spelling test? who cares if the guy can't spell well. At least he is getting his points across. And rather good ones at that.Guess he'll be sideing with the Winning Team .. MP

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 2:08 AM | Report abuse

I am happy that the Nazi rally is finally over. McCain is a twisted and bitter old man who has blood in his urine. He has an unborn twin that grows on the side of his face. And he has PTSD. He also wears depends. Do we want a man wearing diapers in the White House? May God have mercy on all your souls. You Sinners will feel the breath of God!

Posted by: Johna The Christian Nihilist | September 5, 2008 2:07 AM | Report abuse

I was going to time it, but didn't get ready for it. The POW card. How long did he spend on it? Does anyone know? Just curious.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 2:07 AM | Report abuse

A simple house-milker together with a simple hockey mom cannot give leadership to a complicated nation like America, just forget it, get over with it. Trash them both for the sake of America !! Do it now, and start impeachment proceedings to clean the white house from the sc_umbags still there before they do more harm to a once glorious nation.

Posted by: jwh | September 5, 2008 2:06 AM | Report abuse

I am what some of you would consider poor...or at least getting through life pay check to pay check. I'm not afraid to admit it and frankly I really love my job. I come from a small town, a really small town where family values are still an important part of our everyday lives. It's a standard practice to set the alarm clock on Sunday mornings so I can wake my family up and take them to church. I've served my country in the United States Navy and I'm proud to support our American brave few who today volunteer to serve our country. I support John McCain and Sarah Palin and I don't feel as though I need to defend my reasons why. Nobody really needs to state why or why not! Really, I'm glad we live in a country that allows us the opportunity to log on our Macs late at night and write whatever we want about the next person who will lead our country. Here are a few thoughts I would like some of you to think about. Our economy: Who's responsibility is it to keep our economy on track. Currently we point our fingers at Pres. Bush and blame him. I think many of you, and seems as though we have a lot of educated people leaving posts, realize deep inside that the economy works in cycles...it booms, it falls, it inflats, it bursts. Our economy has done this over and over. The problem is "Greed" and not pointed at Washington D.C., rather, all of us. I have started to lable us as the "Fast Food Society" because things are very easy for us today, and its easy to pull up to that drive up window and say "I want, I want, I want". What has happened to doing a little work and making our own meal. We have more opportunity than our parents, and twice as much as our grandparents. If we would only work half as hard as they had to we would be in a better situation today as a Nation. I'm not saying a lot of us aren't working hard and still just getting through the day. I am saying we need to stop whinning about not getting handouts. We are a country that speaks English, yet most of our currency is owned by countries like Japan and Saudi and we've been selling ourselves out long before Bush took office 8 years ago. If one of those countries sold off their American currency we would be a third world nation overnight. I also have a problem with those of us who complain about the rich getting tax breaks. While some who are Rich, were given their inheritance, others; a large portion earn their paychecks. If the rich are getting such a tax break, then describe for me the benefit of the AMT tax. Why should I, a poor man" pay 25% of my income to tax while someone who is making more than $250,000 a year pay nearly 50% of their salary to tax. God Bless those who make $249.999 dollars a year right? You see the point I'm trying to make with my long essay is that we are pointing our fingers at the wrong people, we need to turn them at ourselves. This is our Nation and as our pledge ends, "with liberty and justice for all". That statement was pledged to us, so isn't it our responsibility to carry out those lines. Nobody is stopping you, infact our troops are giving their lives so that we can wake up each day in a world where we can go out and accomplish our dreams. I support John Mccain and Sarah Palin because I think they will kick "Fast Food" out of Washington D.C., and I have a feeling they will invite us all over for dinner! May the best candidate win!

Posted by: Aaron | September 5, 2008 2:05 AM | Report abuse

They never seem to bring up the fact that Cindy McCain wrote fake perscritions for drugs from her charity,this wonderful future 1st Lady and didnt go to jail because Of Johns connections,Now theres a proud moment

Posted by: Steve | September 5, 2008 2:05 AM | Report abuse

Semper Fi...how much do you get paid for your foul mouth?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 2:04 AM | Report abuse

ten thoughts........... listen up!!!!!
I'm sick of this demonic attempt to demoralize our military. REMEMBER 9 1 1 ??????????????????????????????????? WELL I DO!!! It's called defending our great country. And what about the killing of all those in the "TWIN TOWERS"??? PATHETIC COMMENTS. WHY DIDN'T YOU WHINE ABOUT ALL THOSE THOUSANDS KILLED??????

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 2:03 AM | Report abuse

Palin's and McCain's speeches have made me and others to rethink about the strong choice for President. I am second to no-body in the world. For me country comes first. McCain is the man who I can trust for the future of USA.

Posted by: aristocrat | September 5, 2008 2:03 AM | Report abuse

JP,

I appreciate that Obama has passed legislation and the time he has served, but can you give me examples of bills he has authored? The problem I have is with the statement that "Dems agree on the issues." Everyone in politics believes that they are right on every issue, but a swing to "far left" isn't what this country needs either. It's pretty clear that McCain isn't "far right" when those that claim the title shun him. I also think the argument that being 72 automatically means he's not going to make through his term. Obama has "earned the right" to be President either just due to the performance of George W.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 2:03 AM | Report abuse

This really is no contest. Obama has absolutely no relevant experience. Joe Biden has been consistently WRONG on the major foreign policy issues of his day; and he was brought on for his foreign policy expertise? And let's see, I want to raise my taxes, get the government to take over health care (check out England why don't you...), send more money to Hugo Chavez (among others) because the people of Santa Barbara don't like the look of an oil rig. And do I really want a Democratic congress running circles around an inexperienced President to all of our detriments....I'll take the old white guy with experience thanks.

Posted by: Gene Davis | September 5, 2008 2:02 AM | Report abuse

Its funny how majority of the world can see we need Obama as our future president for different reasons.Some people just need a reason not to vote for Obama so they use the absence of a flag pin, his "funny" name, or political scare tactics about his religion get in the way of making the best choice for OUR country. Anyone can see he chose Palin because she can potentially win over some of the female voters. McCain's decision making skills doesn't seem up to par with that choice. Someone that can be potentially the president of United States and you only talked to her less than 2`times before making a decision like that. I think my job is important and even my company interviewed me more than 2x.

My vote and anyone I can persuade will go to Obama & Biden 08.

Posted by: London | September 5, 2008 2:01 AM | Report abuse

"You want straight talk? Here goes. Shove pipes in every liberals mouth and store it in a tank. Maybe then Al Gore will shift his focus to the liberals spewing more polution into the atmosphere then industry ever has. Since Gore invented the internet he can come up with a way to convert that verbal sewage into "alternate" energy, and maybe! Just maybe we could justify keeping the liberals flapping their gums about things they know nothing about.

Obama can organize them! Oh heck, I said "Obama!" And I'm not black, a liberal, or democrat... So now I'm a racist all of a sudden.

Get real...

McCain Palin 08

Semper Fi"

@_@

This is why I vote the opposite of complete ludicrous.

The Republicans have preached this week about what they will do, well the past eight years contradicts every single word that comes from their lips. (Giuliani I look to you for this one)

Obama maybe no McCain in terms of Washington experience, but the last thing we need is 4-8 more years of economic downfall and an everlasting, neverending, money waste, THE IRAQ WAR.

Posted by: Ohboy | September 5, 2008 2:01 AM | Report abuse

For a party that is fervently against welfare, the Republicans sure love to give a free ride to McCain for being a P.O.W. I respect what he did but its also mandated by the Code of Conduct he agreed to when he joined the Navy. How far should it go? Should he not pay taxes because of his prior service? Front of the line and free access to any hip nightclub (or AARP meeting)? We better just elect him President already because his spine might break if we continue patting him on the back for what he did forty years ago.

Posted by: Michael Bluth | September 5, 2008 2:00 AM | Report abuse

Reality Check or...
Reality Checkmate! You win, you old queer. Don't forget it's your turn to bring the Oreos to the NAACP meeting on Thursday!
Xoxox

Posted by: Reality Check's Gay Black Lover | September 5, 2008 1:59 AM | Report abuse

wow | September 5, 2008 1:49 AM, hallelujah!! Thank you thank you so much!! I AM indeed one of those making snide remarks b/c I am so angry and acting absolutely insane.

Your post is the BEST post thus far. I mean it... I have a smile on my face now just reading what you've said. I wanted to say it, but the devil side of me took over.

Now I can go to sleep in peace. Thx!!

McCain/Biden '08

Posted by: K | September 5, 2008 1:59 AM | Report abuse

Aleks Wrote: "McCain's story was incredibly compelling before he and his henchmen started using it as an excuse for everything from the way he treated his first wife to not knowing how many houses he has to his taste in music. Now he just sounds like Giuliani braying about 9/11 in response to every question asked."

Hey Aleks, how many homes does John Kerry have? How about Senator Kennedy? Or Rep Richardson (D-Calif) who authored the recent foreclosure legislation because she refused to pay the mortgages on her six residences?

Posted by: LeeHInAlexandria | September 5, 2008 1:59 AM | Report abuse

A wise man once said - Beware the peacemaker- Go to your Enemy with hat in hand soon you will have his foot in your mouth... or some where else !!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 1:57 AM | Report abuse

Question: No one can answer my question! If George Washington was the Republican nominee, would he be required by the party to put flag lapel pins on his slaves?

Answer: Yes. Then Mr. Obama would have a flag lapel pin of his own.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 1:56 AM | Report abuse

So. I don't see anything wrong with true sexual love between a consenting adult man and a little boy. At least I'm not having interracial sex.

Posted by: Reality Check | September 5, 2008 1:56 AM | Report abuse

EarlC Wrote: "Tell me specific dates and times when Obama stutters and is lost when the teleprompter fails? I have DVDs of five of his major speeches which I review from time to time. His breaks in his speeches come when he is interrupted by applause. At such times, being an intelligent man, he sometimes thinks of something interesting to say as an interjection. You might say that he is writing on the run."

Without a script, Senator Obama comes across as what he truly is - a dufus.

Posted by: LeeHInAlexandria | September 5, 2008 1:56 AM | Report abuse

McCain's story was incredibly compelling before he and his henchmen started using it as an excuse for everything from the way he treated his first wife to not knowing how many houses he has to his taste in music. Now he just sounds like Giuliani braying about 9/11 in response to every question asked.

Posted by: Aleks | September 5, 2008 1:55 AM | Report abuse

I was Married to a PIT Bull with lipstick ,believe me you dont want that

Posted by: Steve | September 5, 2008 1:55 AM | Report abuse

Reality Check... aren't you glad you were born caucasion (as far as you know) because otherwise you would be responsible for all the corruption in western civilization.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 1:55 AM | Report abuse

Mr. Reality Check Man is a local chapter president of the Man-Boy love society. Seriously, I know that guy, and he's one twisted, obese, smelly dude.

Posted by: Earl-Big | September 5, 2008 1:54 AM | Report abuse

Well, lets have a look at Bidens medical record... ok? Kennedy was suppose to get Veep, but he got very very sick and so Biden was picked, with dirty laundry like the Clintons. Some of us still remember and have been informed.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 1:54 AM | Report abuse

No problem, George Van. Girls just want to have fun. And spell above the level of a fourth-grader. (My apologies if you are not yet a fourth-grader.)

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 1:54 AM | Report abuse

1) Um, What if I don't want a pit bull with lipstick to hold the Office of the Vice President?

2) McCain can't raise taxes on the rich. It's against his family values; Cindy would disown him.

3) The military is itself a socialistic organization.

4) Where were the rest of the farm's animals, tonight?

5) "non dem", didn't call him/herself a Republican. Why?

6) Go get some ice cream, if you just want to feel good about yourself. Feel good for the right reasons, not because you want to send military assets to attack other human beings in the wrong place, at the wrong time, in the wrong way, or for wrong and shifting reasons. To simplify: Republicans are wrong.

7) "Academic blowhards" also build and secure our future, at all levels of our society - and they do it for little respect in return, apparently.

8) Who's going to pay for more war? Who's going to defend us when we're broke? One trillion dollars is 1 million, million dollars. Know of anyone that got a million bucks in tax breaks?

9) Straight talk shouldn't also be dumb.

10) If you can't appreciate eloquence or intelligence, it's clear that you never respected your educators in the first place.

Posted by: ten thoughts | September 5, 2008 1:53 AM | Report abuse

I loved the speech, And I Love his pick in Palin.

They have won me over..

Posted by: Evergreen | September 5, 2008 1:53 AM | Report abuse

If McCain bites the big one we wind up with Tina Fey look alike from Saturday night Live as President

Posted by: Steve | September 5, 2008 1:52 AM | Report abuse

Meh, the dailyKos... seriously? You're citing the DailyKos? Isn't that the National Enquirer of politics? Ooops... National Enquirer does get it right once in a while, unfair comparison to the National Enquirer.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 1:52 AM | Report abuse

No one can answer my question! If George Washington was the Republican nominee, would he be required by the party to put flag lapel pins on his slaves?

Posted by: Gregory Th. | September 5, 2008 1:52 AM | Report abuse

EarlC Wrote: "Tell me specific dates and times when Obama stutters and is lost when the teleprompter fails? I have DVDs of five of his major speeches which I review from time to time. His breaks in his speeches come when he is interrupted by applause. At such times, being an intelligent man, he sometimes thinks of something interesting to say as an interjection. You might say that he is writing on the run."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eI5Eo9OMSgU

Posted by: LeeHInAlexandria | September 5, 2008 1:51 AM | Report abuse

Cody,

Obama has a legislative record that goes back 12 years including 4 in the Senate.

He's passed legislation -- including work across the aisle with Lugar, Coburn, Grassley and others. Most Dems to are on the same page on the issues -- the disagreements are on the details, so I don't see anyone even needing to play puppet master.

With McCain you have a guy who's 72. His campaign is being running by long-time Washington corporate lobbyists. He's got people like Phil Gramm likely overseeing the banking industry.

I worry much more about the manipulators within McCain's campaign -- especially at his age -- than those in Obamas.

The far-right has not earned the right to serve 4 more years -- with Palin effectively that's what we're looking at.

Posted by: JP2 | September 5, 2008 1:50 AM | Report abuse

Darling EarlC, I'll do better for you dear:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omHUsRTYFAU

Saved you time now didn't I dear... nite nite... have to be responsible and work in the AM.

Have fun!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 1:50 AM | Report abuse

wow so much hate here. Now i see why America is so messed up.It's the people running for office who are messed up its the people.None of you can say one good thing. If these people are so bad why don't you run for office and lets see the dirt people can talk about you.You are all full of hot air.If it wasn't for all you people back stabbing to the point that they have to stand up for them self's maybe we could learn something about who they are. Maybe the world is right about us.Just a bunch of know it all babies that do nothing but fight. Freedom of speech what about freedom to just be stupid.The media is just as bad.If you don't like someone degrade them in any way possible.. What a country.I am sure every country wants to be just like we are right now. A bunch of.. well you know

Posted by: wow | September 5, 2008 1:49 AM | Report abuse

Here are the real questions:
1. Who would you willingly follow "into the jaws of death," as the poem goes? Presidents never know what's coming in their administrations. No great Presidents were prepared for what was coming at the time they were elected--it was their ability to lead in a crisis that elevated them to greatness. We have to trust our President based on his or her life decisions, not just length of government service, military experience, home town, or family background.
2. Who will appoint the Supreme Court Justices who share your values about the America you want your grandchildren to grow up in?
3. Who will return our Constitution to its rightful place as the immutable law of the land?
4. Who will reach out as a compassionate world leader to regain global confidence in America once again?
5. Who gets people excited enough about future possibilities so that they will sacrifice creature comforts to get there, just as Americans united during World War II?
Don't be fooled into making a decision by the cosmetics of our sound-bite, media-driven society. Legacy is built day by day, not on promises, but on actions fueled by integrity.

Posted by: DLE | September 5, 2008 1:49 AM | Report abuse

Sorry PubickSkool Kid. We can't all be perfect like you Girls are.

Posted by: George Van | September 5, 2008 1:49 AM | Report abuse

McCain's moment came and went in the 2000 campaign. He still appeared robust and he was his own man. The Republican party smeared him and put George in charge. Flash forward to 2008. The convention showed extreme excitement for Palen and appear bored by the little old man before them, but he's all they've got. He could barely walk. It hurt seeing his pain. My heart actually goes out to the man, it's his last hurrah. I just don't think he will make the four years. It's an unbelievably stressful job for someone young and healthy, and he is neither of these things.

Posted by: Mark | September 5, 2008 1:48 AM | Report abuse

To be honest, Obama's speech patterns do not bother me in the least. I've heard this bit about teleprompters for months now. Too bad that McCain cannot even read from his own notes.

You guys with the stutters and teleprompter stuff have probably not heard Obama. You are just passing on the junk from FOX noise.

After Bush, a person with a terrible lisp would sound good. Obama is a charismatic speaker.

Posted by: Earl C | September 5, 2008 1:48 AM | Report abuse

I try to like the guy, but geez, boring, uninspired, "vote for me 'cause I was a war hero" and nothing else? And really, what's so heroic about flying 30,000 feet over someone and dropping bombs on their heads, and those of their children? Probably the most interesting thing about him is that he crashed 4 aircraft before being shot down. Guy's got a guardian angel of some sort. Don't dislike him, but what an absolute disaster it would be if he is elected. Sara-barracuda - total right wing, evangelical nut case. As much as I would have liked to have seen a respectable female selected as part of this race, this was a very bad choice. Shrill, not so smart, and lots of skeletons in the closet. Fail.

Posted by: Pdxguy | September 5, 2008 1:47 AM | Report abuse

Dear Mr. Reality Check Man.

I'm sure demeaning black people helps you feel better about your current situation.

But let's talk about what the White Christian did for the 20th century. White men, mostly of the same religion, slaughtered, by the tens of millions, each other during WWI and WWI.

If you want global bad news, it takes the White, European Christian to really deliver it.

Posted by: Kees | September 5, 2008 1:47 AM | Report abuse

McSame and Palin claim to be for reduced taxes but in reality that is only for a small percentage of the richest Americans. Barack Obama's plan will help far more people who actually need to be able to pay for gas and groceries. McCain=4 more years of looking out for your fatcat Republican buddies and lobbyists, no matter what he says. It is clear now that he will say anything to get elected.

Check out the link to see the breakdown of their respective plans:
http://images.dailykos.com/images/user/28416/GR2008061200193.jpeg

Posted by: Meh | September 5, 2008 1:46 AM | Report abuse

The thing that strikes me the most about this election is that everyone wants the same thing for this country but simply has different ideas on how to get there. On one hand you have a young up-start politician that captivates an audience and can communicate his party's stance on the issues; on the other you have a seasoned political and military veteran with an established record. Both are due respect for what they bring to the table; however, I struggle to just "take Obama for his word" when there isn't anything that he can point to as an example of what he has accomplished. I find it even harder to think that we could hand over the reins to this country to someone that is unproven. I understand change is needed, but at what expense? It seems to me that all the established politicians are lining up behind Obama because they see an opportunity to play puppetmaster with someone in the most powerful position in the world. If Obama had the record and could point to instances where he broke from the party line to get something done for the good of the people this election would've been over before it started. But with the options available, I have to give my vote to the candidate that has proven that he can get things done. I could care less about whether he has white hair or can dazzle the country with eloquence from behind a mic. It's the decision making ability shaped by the person's experience that matters. Something to think about if you're still on the fence.

Posted by: Cody | September 5, 2008 1:45 AM | Report abuse

Good job, Reality Check. Just when I thought no one would have the guts to use the word Negro. And in all caps, no less. Asalaamu alaykum, my strong white brother.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 1:45 AM | Report abuse

Getting a little tired of McCain playing POW card ,Thanks for your service now shut up about it .Most Vietnam vets dont talk about thier experiences much less continue to pat themselves on the back,eveyday about it

Posted by: Steve | September 5, 2008 1:45 AM | Report abuse

I guess snide remarks are in the ears of the listener. I heard enough snide this week to make me sick. No such thing as snide, ridicule, sarcasm, or flippancy happened at the Democratic convention.
No smirks at the Democratic convention either.

I corrected a verb tense error. I must be getting sleepy. Carry on you good Democrats.

Posted by: Earl C | September 5, 2008 1:44 AM | Report abuse

".... Oh really Earl, is that why he stutters and was lost when his teleprompter fails?"
He actually thinks before he speaks and often searches for the most appropriate words.I have a great deal of respect and admiration for someone who chooses his/her words carefully.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 1:44 AM | Report abuse

All of these ardent McCain supporters are just proof that most Americans are true sheep. The major parties nominate anyone and we'll go for it in mass. Obama would maybe make a good President years from now but the sheep are electing him prematurely, anyway.

I wish we could have real elections, where average nobodies compete in a true battle of wits and ideas, with the best being selected from among us, not for us by powerful political parties. But such a fantasy only exists in Bizarro World.

BAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaa!!!!

Posted by: Bob Loblaw | September 5, 2008 1:44 AM | Report abuse

Tre, re: Obama DOES put his hand over his heart during the National Anthem. There is plenty of video footage online showing him doing so..... Is that before or after he decided people were criticizing him?

He changes his stand on so many things over a month, weeks, or even days... it's hard to keep things straight. But you are right, I think he does that now after he realized he's running for an office.

Posted by: Kim | September 5, 2008 1:43 AM | Report abuse

I guess snide remarks is in the ears of the listener. I heard enough snide this week to make me sick. No such thing as snide, ridicule, sarcasm, or flippancy happened at the Democratic convention.
No smirks at the Democratic convention either.

Posted by: Earl C | September 5, 2008 1:43 AM | Report abuse

Is clear to me that all of you Obama lovers that claim to crave to want change, when real honest change is offered to you you look at it in the face and discard it with contempt because its not flashy enough for you to be "real".... you are so used to reality tv and embellishment by Nobama "vision" that if the change offered is not filled with enough illusions and smoke mirrors like Obama's is not real enough for you. I pity your sorry souls in 5 years when this country is in shambles engaged in a war because Nobama will ally in the destruction of Israel, you will be sorry and will remember this day when you put McCain down, if you don't think that is possible let me tell you something else after that this country is going to see what it hasn't seen in years a war within our own borders, go ahead and laugh now and vote for your mesiah I rather prefer to call him anti-christ ( do your research on that one and you will see ) you will remember these words.

Posted by: visionary | September 5, 2008 1:43 AM | Report abuse

"Donsblog: Nobody said Obama wasn't a great orator or his speechwriter wasn't great at, well, writing speeches. America should question his ability to lead...which he's never done. His career has been one step after another of resuming building. Only one problem with his resume building: its flimsier than Al Gore's environmental credentials or John Edwards' marriage vows. He's never had any work accomplishments to speak of.

His meteoric rise is inspiring and he's extremely likable and bright, but absolutely no substance....just flashy taglines and slogans. Name me one legislative accomplishment in his one term in the Senate. Let me clue you in on the responsibilities of a one term Senator...their pretty limited, even if your name is Barrack Obama.""

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Are you serious? Obama has been in the state and U.S. Senate for almost 12 years. Here are a few of his Senate accomplishments:

Obama helped pass the 2007 Ethics Reform Law, which curbed the influence of lobbyists and was described as the “Most Sweeping Since Watergate.”

Obama and Lugar passed Law Boosting U.S. Efforts To Keep WMDs And Other Dangerous Weapons Out Of The Hands Of Terrorists. In 2006, Obama and Lugar introduced The Cooperative Proliferation Detention Act.

Obama passed the Illinois State Gift Ban Act “Heralded As the Most Sweeping Good-Government Legislation in Decades.”

Obama and Coburn Passed A Bill Creating A “Google-like” Database For The Public To Search Details About Federal Funding Awards.

Obama Passed Law Ensuring That Wounded Veterans Recovering In Military Hospitals Do Not Have To Pay For Their Meals Or Phone Calls To Family Members.

Obama Proposals Providing Improvements In Health Care For Recovering Soldiers Were Passed Into Law, Including Requirements For Post-Deployment Mental Health Screenings And National Study On The Needs Of Iraq War Veterans.

Obama Worked With Republicans To Pass Legislation, Which Became Law, Improving And Increasing Services For Homeless Veterans.

Obama Passed Bipartisan Legislation That Expanded Health Care Coverage To 154,000 Residents, Including 70,000 Children.

Obama Passed A Bill Creating $100 Million Earned Income Tax Credit As A Member Of The Minority Party In The Illinois Senate.

Obama Passed Near-Unanimous Death Penalty Overhaul Package.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 1:42 AM | Report abuse

I was impressed with the number of times Sen. McCain used the word "Fight" I would have rather he had said that we needed to reflect about the needs of the nation and devise strategies to rectify them. No more warmongers, please.

As for Gov. Palin, even thinking of having a creationist and a book banner in the White House gives me the shivers!

Obama/Biden for me!

Posted by: Esther | September 5, 2008 1:42 AM | Report abuse

Reality Check - you need a reality check.

Posted by: Pete | September 5, 2008 1:42 AM | Report abuse

Man, you guys think you got problems. I don't like blacks OR old people! D'oh! (Just kidding. I do like old black people.)

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 1:42 AM | Report abuse

McCain has been selling out his ethics for the "love" of the GOP.

His motto should be; "I'd rather sell my ideals for getting enough votes from the hardcore Republicans so that I can be president".

There is nothing to admire here and there is nothing worth voting for here. His judgment must be questions since he picked a woman with questionable judgment herself as his VP.

She was in Texas when her water broke so what did she do? She gave a speech and then hopped a plane, for a 5 hour flight, to Alaska?

My Mom read these accounts and watched the speeches. She was going to vote for McCain but now she thinks that he's in the early stages of dementia and that his choice of Sarah Palin was the deal breaker. She'll be voting for Obama now.

Nothing good can come from voting McCain into the Whitehouse.

Posted by: David Desu | September 5, 2008 1:42 AM | Report abuse

Reading on-line commentary, I actually start wondering why people think limitless free speech is so great.

In practice, it seems to be a mind-numbing bore of droning human stupidity, inspiring despair more than insight.

People substitute emotional states for understanding and connection with reality, as if there will be no consequence for that. No analysis or even awareness of underlying assumptions from which their opinions bloom.

Do schools no longer teach people how to reason to sound judgement? What if you were to pick an auto-body shop the same way you think about and pick presidents?

Posted by: allium334@hotmail.com | September 5, 2008 1:41 AM | Report abuse

Nobama

McCain doesn't come close to Reagan in any shape, form or fashion. Reagan was gifted, McCain is not.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 1:40 AM | Report abuse

BTW, for all those people who thinks Sen. Obama will part the Red sea, lead you to the other-side and to the land of milk and honey, I suggest you first look at those Negro led nations in Africa and those Negro led states in America (eg: Detroit by Kwame M. Kilpatrick , New York by Mayor Dinkins, etc.). ALL THESE NEGRO LED NATIONS AND STATES ARE FULL OF CURRUPTION, CRIME, ILLEGAL DRUGS, VENEREAL DISEASES AND HORRIBLE ECONOMY.

Posted by: Reality Check | September 5, 2008 1:40 AM | Report abuse

Steve, you're not a racist as far as I can tell. Just a sh-t-head.

Posted by: JP2 | September 5, 2008 1:39 AM | Report abuse

Steve Atlanta GA
Thats not where you need to shove the pipe

Posted by: Steve | September 5, 2008 1:39 AM | Report abuse

K writes and quotes me:

"Obama can write his own speeches and often does. This is the main reason why he can speak from his heart. " ..... Oh really Earl, is that why he stutters and was lost when his teleprompter fails?


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Tell me specific dates and times when Obama stutters and is lost when the teleprompter fails? I have DVDs of five of his major speeches which I review from time to time. His breaks in his speeches come when he is interrupted by applause. At such times, being an intelligent man, he sometimes thinks of something interesting to say as an interjection. You might say that he is writing on the run.

Now, you most noble critic. You try giving a speech sometime. I have. Sometimes I have done very well and other times I froze. My largest audience was 7500 when I was 17. In the old days, we just had small notecards.

I noticed the same hesitations and bumblings by most speakers in both conventions. Heaven help those ordinary citizens that had to speak. However, they did very well under the circumstances.
Remember, even the best orators who ever lived would get butterflies and a case of nerves from time to time.

Be charitable. You'll enjoy life a bit more.

Posted by: EarlC | September 5, 2008 1:39 AM | Report abuse

GREAT JOB AND SPEECH FUTURE PRESIDENT AND THE HONORABLE VP'S SPEECH WAS ALSO. BOTH OUT OF THE BALLPARK.
OBAMA ALL YOU HAVE DONE IS ATTEMPT SMEAR WITH YOUR SNIDED REMARKS. TONIGHT WE SAW A REAL MAN AND AN AMERICAN HERO.

GO MCCAIN/PAULIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
NOW WE'RE TALKING CHANGE AND NOT JUST TALK WITHOUT RECORD LIKE OBAMA.

Posted by: More constant then bitter | September 5, 2008 1:39 AM | Report abuse

You guys keep saying how much Money the BO party has raised since the Phaln acecptance speach. Did you get off any funds. You can't run your mouth without being able to back it up..If you are going to support BO you gotta throw him a few thousand for the cause, be it a lost one..!

Posted by: G-Man | September 5, 2008 1:39 AM | Report abuse

Palin's speech on Wed. night set the basic tenets of what the Republican Party should stand for - Indepedence, freedom, smaller government, a strong work ethic, family values, love of country, energy diversity and independence from the middle east, serving others, lower taxes for all, balance the budget, strengthen the dollar, and staying the course in the fight against evil - Powerful, moving and right on. McCain separated himself from the Bush administration and made it clear that the Republican Party let the Washington establishment change the Party to the extent that it let the American people down. McCain announced that he is embarking on a mission to fight against that establishment, to change Washington and get America back on track and the Republican Party back to basics. Good speech, effective, and shows that McCain and Palin are going to be a force to be reckoned with. Has anybody noticed that before the Democratic Party took control of Congress that the economy was as strong as ever? They didn't get the name as the "Do-Nothing Congress" for actually doing something. Their near single digit popularity vote shows that Congress is totally ineffective. Among all the fanfare and spectacle that took place at the Dem Party Convention, one can easily see that the biggest difference between Obama/Biden ticket and the McCain/Palin ticket is big vs small govt. Obama wants government to take over our lives, regulate us, dictate our every way of life and control every facet of who we are and who we are to become. McCain/Palin want independence from the feds. Give us opportunities, independence, free thinkers, let our states and communities make the decisions that best serve them. They want those who go to Washington to serve the people not their own interests. It is not about the party. It is what is best for America. Let's see Obama wants change but voted 97% of the time with the Democrats. Why couldn't he cross over while active in the Senate? What's going to make him change? He picks as his running mate Joe Biden who has had 32 years of opportunities to change Washington and has done nothing. My gosh, are all of you so narrow-minded, so mesmerized with the hollow rhetoric of Obama that you have lost your own ability to reason and think for yourself. Its an Obamination and quite frankly, there is a clear underlying cultural battle that is slowly moving to the forefront of this campaign - one that has been going on for a number of years but has only just now been singled out by Sarah Palin - Rural values vs cosmopolitan values. This alone will make this election one of the most exciting and most pivotal elections in the history of America. We are at the crossroads - we can give up the freedoms and values and principals upon which this nation was founded and turn to a nation controlled by a few who use the federal government to control every part of our lives or we can stand up and fight for independence. That is why I think McCain and Palin's speeches were powerful, compelling and energizing. We now have an election, and it will be exciting to watch it unfold.

Posted by: Mike | September 5, 2008 1:39 AM | Report abuse

Its always sad to see a champ fight one too many fights. His skills, both physically and cognitively, are so degraded from 2000.

It embarrassing calling himself the change agent. He's got 8 years of HIS party's crap stuck to the bottom of his shoes. He can wish it away. But that kind of crap doesn't come off just because you want it to.

Posted by: Kees | September 5, 2008 1:39 AM | Report abuse

Edna- The real question is that if George Washington were alive today and running against McCain, would the conservatives critcise him for not putting flag lapel pins on his slaves?

Posted by: Gregory Th. | September 5, 2008 1:39 AM | Report abuse

McCain=FAIL

Posted by: Meh | September 5, 2008 1:38 AM | Report abuse

Do and say anything to get elected; abandon party, friends (senator for 26 years?), principles, loyalties. The truly honorable thing would have been to say "we messed it up, let's go home, rethink, and regroup". Instead, all of a sudden he's a Messiah who will fight his way through all obstacles, preferably aboard his Phantom F4. Politics of fear (and unmentionable fear of race) may win yet again, and if so, the USA will be the only loser.

Posted by: EOP | September 5, 2008 1:38 AM | Report abuse

McCain the collaborator/traitor, UNBELIEVABLE!! How you do people seriously come up with this. I guess you didn't hear when McCain talked about one of the men there became is friend. He could tell that man (don't know which one it was exactly) was a nice man through the cross he had. This man had helped McCain.

Next, I am certain you'll say McCain broke his own arms so now he can't move them.

I believe this man became friends w/McCain as he did mention there was a nice man in one of his talks. BUT if you believe AT ALL that the VietCongs don't abuse their POW... please research again. And kindly differentiate VietCongs and Vietnamese. Yes, all VietCongs are Vietnamese, but not all Vietnamese are Vietcongs.

They abuse their people... why would they hesitate POWs in time of war? lol... perhaps you should ask older VNmese who knows what it's like to live w/VietCongs.

Posted by: Unbelievable!! | September 5, 2008 1:38 AM | Report abuse

Anon 1:30 AM

No one in this election is talking about the creation of a socialist welfare state.

The Dems are talking about Eisenhower economics, which consisted of a progressive tax system and a significant investment in the domestic economy. This makes sense in terms of creating new industries.

No one is talking about LBJ's economic programs (although Palin is practicing them in Alaska).

McCain on the other hand is talking about turning a recession into another Great Depression. His Hooveresque policies will squeeze money out of our economy and dry up demand for consumer goods.

There is nothing in McCain's economic tool-box that hasn't been sold to the U.S. public at least once before by George W. Bush.

Posted by: JP2 | September 5, 2008 1:37 AM | Report abuse

Bidden is
65 , 7 years younger the McCain
he is 72 ,your argument makes no since

Posted by: Steve | September 5, 2008 1:37 AM | Report abuse

You want straight talk? Here goes. Shove pipes in every liberals mouth and store it in a tank. Maybe then Al Gore will shift his focus to the liberals spewing more polution into the atmosphere then industry ever has. Since Gore invented the internet he can come up with a way to convert that verbal sewage into "alternate" energy, and maybe! Just maybe we could justify keeping the liberals flapping their gums about things they know nothing about.

Obama can organize them! Oh heck, I said "Obama!" And I'm not black, a liberal, or democrat... So now I'm a racist all of a sudden.

Get real...

McCain Palin 08

Semper Fi

Posted by: Steve Atlanta GA | September 5, 2008 1:36 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Jaymetrodon - "McCain does not write his own speeches. Good or not. What kind of "straight talk" is that?"

Actually Senator McCain did write tonight's speech with some help from his longtime aide Mark Salter. They were even working on it till sometime this afternoon.

Posted by: LeeHInAlexandria | September 5, 2008 1:36 AM | Report abuse

McCain was not as SLICK as Hussein but he definitely has more substance in his speech.

Change + no experience = 4 year rerun of Jimmy Carter

Change + experience = 4 year rerun of Ronald Reagan

I'll take the later option.

Posted by: NoBama | September 5, 2008 1:35 AM | Report abuse

Same old crap different day...yawn.

Posted by: Scott | September 5, 2008 1:35 AM | Report abuse

McCain seems like a very scary volatile, bitter old man. The speech had no hope nor vision. It was more of the same warmongering from the Republicans. His last part of the speech I could not hear from all the fake screaming, all I heard was FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT. I immediately went to Obama's web site and donated $75.

Posted by: Xavier | September 5, 2008 1:35 AM | Report abuse

The out-of-touch Republican party's tactic to appeal to the coveted voters in places like Scranton, Dayton and Detroit: rouse them with a thrilling country song! Haha, I'm done voting for this out of touch bumpkin party, complete with the rednecks from "Tougher in Alaska" in tow. And yes, I did waste one vote on Bush, but I will never admit it to my future children.

Posted by: wilsonjk | September 5, 2008 1:35 AM | Report abuse

USA citizen, listen up. How OLD is Biden? Seriously! With health problems. And Obama has absolutely no experience. Obama has not completed even one term in state or federal service. Oh wait, he voted "present" 130 times. I guess that gives him experience there. rotflol! President McCain will be a great commander in chief. Governor Paulin will make a great VP. Now this ticket is the real change. Obama talks and talks and produces NOTHING, just like Biden has done for decades and I'm tired of paying him to do nothing. Now Senator Biden, retire. Senator Obama get a career you come in the ball park of qualifying for. Chicago could use all the help it can get why not serve your citizens for a change. You know give back for all this country has given you! Finally Senator Obama I want to see your birth certificate. Will the California governor plz check this out, if he qualifies to run, you sure will.
Finally a ? for the media! Who the heck is pregnant? I read yahoo and AP refer to her at least 200 times but no one has yet to introduce her. Who is she and wut she got to do with the presidency? Strange thing to call someone, but we are talking media.

Posted by: More constant then bitter | September 5, 2008 1:33 AM | Report abuse

"For all you nay sayers and Obama lovers, which I was impressed at first, why does Obama not put his hand over his heart as patriotic people do during the national anthem. I would rather have a guy that tears up when talking about his country than one that shows no emotion."

Posted by: Edna | September 5, 2008 1:06 AM

Oh Edna, Edna...I really thought you were making some good intelligent and well-researched points until you came up with this last line. I love my country. My ancestors were on the Mayflower and my family and friends and the glorious beauty of the country have been with me all my life, but I do not tear at the national anthem. My love is greater and more complex than that.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 1:33 AM | Report abuse

McCain is definitely a hero, his life story is very compelling, but does his experience as a POW really qualify him to be President? After his choice for VP I definitely wonder about his judgement. It sounds as though it wasn't even his pick, he would have prefered Lieberman or Ridge. If he can't stand up to his party on this, how can we expect him to change anything if he is elected. Top Gun? He graduated almost last in his class at the Naval Academy, and certainly wasn't part of the elite Top Gun program.

Posted by: Evan | September 5, 2008 1:30 AM | Report abuse

The question is are you better off then you were 8 years ago/ It all boils down to that.Iam a 100% disabled vietnam veteran and I sure Im not.Im leaving very little,and with the enconomy the way it is.I cant afford gas or groceries

Posted by: Steve | September 5, 2008 1:30 AM | Report abuse

McCain is a true moderate. That's why the far right does not trust him. Most of America is also moderate. We don't need someone from the far right and more of the same or from the far left and dive-in, head-first, to socialism. That economic model has been completely discredited. The entire world has moved away from it.

Does anyone (who's not looking for a government handout) really think the answer to high gas prices is to bring back welfare and the Great Society?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 1:30 AM | Report abuse

Nice try Berry...then the wife who is even more competent than her political husband will step forward and take the Presidency ... Michelle O for Prez! Chelsea for VP!

-----My two-month forecast:

- The race will continue to be very close for the next month or so.

- Nobama will cut McCain into pieces in all three debates.

- The VP debate will be a tie.

- By October, Democrats will have a 5-8 point lead.

- McCain's health will deteriorate severely. He won't be able to campaign anymore, throwing the Republican campaign into disarray...

- Then, more Nobama's dirty secrets will be revealed, throwing the Democratic campaign into disarray...

- By November, voters will choose between Joseph Biden and Sarah Palin.

- Sarah Palin will be elected President of the United States.
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Posted by: SillyInSeattle | September 5, 2008 1:30 AM | Report abuse

Very solid home run by both McCain and Palin!

The have my vote, no one hates war more than someone who has seen it, smelled it and felt it.

McCain may not be spit and polish but convinces me that he has integrity, guts and the leadership skills to move our country forward in a responsible way while cutting out waste and corruption.

RickyD

Posted by: RickyD | September 5, 2008 1:29 AM | Report abuse

Dear Edna, Obama DOES put his hand over his heart during the National Anthem. There is plenty of video footage online showing him doing so. It's just like all the other lies that have been bandied about - just plain not true. Besides, I'm a patriotic American - I served 7 years in the military, I pay my taxes, I vote, I pick up trash off the sidewalks when I see it, I try to help people in need. But I do not put my hand over my heart when I hear the National Anthem. Not because I'm not patriotic, but because I have a medical condition that makes standing like that painful. If Obama one time didn't do just exactly what someone else thought he should be doing, he may have had a very good reason for it. We as American's need to stop judging my such small petty measures as posture and flag pins, and start judging by past record and the merits of future plans. Obama served as a community organizer in the slums of Chicago when he was fresh out of law school, when instead he could have had any Wall Street job he wanted. He served in the Illinois State Senate because he wanted to make things better for the people of that state. He serves in the US Senate for the same reason - because someone has to stand up and help to make things the way they should be rather than letting slide and accepting substandard treatment of fellow human beings and the earth that supports us. Open your eyes and take a good hard look at the things that REALLY matter in terms of the next 4 or 8 years, and the consequences the presidential and vice presidential decisions and conduct of those years will have on the future AFTER those 4 or 8 years. Do you really think John McCain has the smarts or the fortitude to bring about the change we so desperately need, and have been needing? If you do, you obviously haven't taken a really good look at his record, and you haven't realized that the only thing he has offered the country is a story about something that happened 40 years ago and has very little relevance for America in the 21st century. This patriotic but not hand-over-heart concerned citizen is going to vote for Obama/Biden because if the other team wins, I and millions of other patriotic citizens are going to be hurting much worse than we ever have before.

Posted by: Tre | September 5, 2008 1:29 AM | Report abuse

I have been in both parties. I learn more to the right now days. I have not always been McCain's fan, but his choice of Palin and their speeches yesterday and today have made me an overwhelming supporter of them. I saw a side of McCain tonight which I never knew existed. If you TRULY listened without trying to critique it (that should be reserved for later), he told how he was reformed in his jail cell in Hanoi. He said prior to that experience that he was all about himself; that he never really cared for America until he was separated from America and tortured under the communists. He said he was BROKEN by them and it changed his outlook. I had tears in my eyes trying to imagine what HELL it must've been. I saw a man who truly yearns to defeat "politics" as usual and wants to battle for the rights of the people. He wants to stop all of them from abusing us, "the people" and wasting our hard-earned tax dollars. He's in the PEOPLE'S corner!!

Having been the President of a Speech & Literary Society in college, I appreciate those who can deliver eloquently and most times, Obama does just that. But now that I have LIVED a little, at the age of 48, I'm realizing that eloquently delivered speeches are NOT indicators of a successful administration. In fact, I've become more skeptical of those who spend so much time on choosing the RIGHT words. They spend too much time focusing their energy on "delivery" and not on the nation's business. While McCain is not a naturally-gifted speaker, he certainly has a sincerity of conviction and a clearly defined purpose -- transformation of government as usual. I'll take a plain speaking man any day to the refined oratory of an Ivy League Lawyer. Words do not equal action!!! It's easy to craft a fine speech especially with speech writers hired to do the work for you; but it's another thing to deliver proven results. Prior to McCain's run for the Presidency, he was considered the darling by the Press because he worked on BOTH sides of the aisle. It's been amazing to watch how fast he was abandoned by the smooth talking Obama. I thought it horrible of Obama to go to Germany and speak to them and apologize for our part in the war -- it was a disgrace to American's -- at that moment he LOST me for sure. Who care's if he speaks well to a German audience -- they loved Hitler too for his great oratory and look what it got them!

I studied in Europe for a college semester and I found it quite "fashionable" to attack America and I joined in on the FUN. But through the years and many travels later, I'm a firm believer in the American message and ideals. We threw off the establishment -- the powers that be so that we could fulfill our own destiny and not be ruled by government officials who condescendingly look down on us as poor pitiful citizens who can't take care of themselves and need THEM to guide and dictate our lives. Why are we trying to return to the values of Europe? They have not generated great successes. If it weren't for us, there wouldn't even be a Europe anymore; or at least it would be a very trimmed down version of their former glory. They fight and disagree and make war on each other all the time -- is that the model we want to follow? McCain-Palin for me is the RIGHT choice for America. They want to go into the global community as a leader, not as a follower of a failed system such as Europe's. Our Hollywood elite don't get this -- they're mostly an uneducated lot who are "enthralled" when they meet Europe and all its apparent CLASS and INTELLECT and quickly join the bandwagon in insulting us -- their home country. They need to strike a balance. We may not be the best at everything, and we may make mistakes, but to just blabber mouth everything and complain all the time doesn't FIX IT!! We are a very caring and good-hearted nation and don't need to apologize for WHO we are. We've done great things for the world to be proud of; we don't need to hang our heads in shame any longer. What has Europe done for us since the Revolution or the war of 1812 (when the French aided us against the Brits)?

Also, our country is mammoth in comparison to single countries in Europe and this is why we require more resources, not to mention a huge population. Their little countries are like our individual states. We can't afford mass transport like they can in their densely populated cities and countries, so we do consume more fuel. They're always complaining that we consume too much or waste too much energy. Just let them come here and see that Alaska to Florida is longer than Glasgow to Bagdad!
For all their intellect, we've still done well for ourselves, don't you think? Obama is too enamored of Europe for my taste. I'll stick to McCain and the American cause/dream. We've done just fine for ourselves over the last few hundred years--and were able to abolish our great evil - slavery. My ancestor's fought for their rights -- to give African Americans their freedom. I'm proud of that. WE (Americans) have a platform to stand on since we have been successful in becoming a GREAT melting pot -- without internal civil wars due to class or racial warfare. Others can be proud to follow our example. Let freedom ring. They're beating down our doors to get in here -- that's the real truth of America! And it is McCain who will protect America and her values; not Obama.

Posted by: Kim D. | September 5, 2008 1:29 AM | Report abuse

I made myself watch McCain tonight. I've watched both conventions carefully but I really didn't know if I could stomach another jugular, mug slinging, nasty speech. I just couldn't force myself to watch Cindy McCain. And then I didn't think he would ever get to any point besides his POW experinces and his love of country. Point taken, now what are you going to do about the economy? Nothing. Folks, this is a 72 year old cancer suvivor who has disabilities resulting from his POW experience. Anyone else concerned that he may die in office? Then we got what? A nasty mouth baracuda in the white house.

Posted by: washingtonstate2008 | September 5, 2008 1:29 AM | Report abuse

McCain does not write his own speeches. Good or not. What kind of "straight talk" is that?

Posted by: Jaymetrodon | September 5, 2008 1:28 AM | Report abuse

As an independent moderate, the case was made tonight. Who are we going to trust to truly break partisan lines and bring real change? I'm voting for McCain.

Posted by: Chuck | September 5, 2008 1:28 AM | Report abuse

Blaineboy-
your critique on McCain was that he tried to appeal too much to the emotions? Come on! Obama's speech was nothing but ethos. I'm no more of a fan of McCain than I am of Obama- in fact, I won't be voting for either of them- but your assessment is about as fair and balanced as Fox News or CNN.

Posted by: LibertarianLove | September 5, 2008 1:28 AM | Report abuse

Edna writes:

"For all you nay sayers and Obama lovers, which I was impressed at first, why does Obama not put his hand over his heart as patriotic people do during the national anthem. I would rather have a guy that tears up when talking about his country than one that shows no emotion."

Until only recently,one did not have to put your hand over your heart when singing the National Anthem. You put it over your heart if you were not in uniform (in which case you saluted) when saying the Pledge of Allegiance. I grew up in the south. I was never taught either at school, home, or church to put my hand over my heart when singing the National Anthem. What has happened is that we have moved into a super-patriotic mode where one group wants to prove how patriotic they are in symbolic ways and the code has been adjusted. It is like flying flags on cars and the like.

Please get over this bit about putting one's hand over the heart when singing the song. I watched a seniors' group of about 180 at church sing the National Anthem; not one had his/her hand over the heart. Most of this crowd would be called staunch Republicans.

Look at the August cover of Northwest Airlines magazine. There is John McCain with no flag pin. In fact, he has nothing on his lapel. Now, this is a lack of patriotism on his part. For all of you who made the big deal about Obama and the flag pin and you cannot even keep one on your own guy. Shame on you!

Hopefully, you now see how petty you are about such things. There are much larger issues facing our nation, not the least of which is a world that has all but turned against us since Bush bombed Iraq.

Posted by: EarlC | September 5, 2008 1:28 AM | Report abuse

John McCain is the embodiment of hope. I watched in amazement his life story enfold before us. From a top gun hot shot to a detainee, not like the detainees of Guantanamo Bay but the detainee of cruelty where he lived in the depths of despair that brought about a transformation of consciousness. Very few of us can comprehend John McCain's journey. Yet he transforms himself through public service and commitment to nation and family. In that way we see he walks his talk. The entrenched political machine will be forced to interact with John McCain's voice of change. His "in your face" passion to fully engage with the political machine to morph legislation that is of the people and for the people. It is refreshing. He is an elder statesman that we can trust.

Posted by: Ann | September 5, 2008 1:26 AM | Report abuse

George Van -
Webster's Dictionary. Check it out.

Posted by: Publickskoolkidd | September 5, 2008 1:26 AM | Report abuse

McCain offered nothing about what he will do to end the war or improve the economy. Who didn't already know he was a POW before this speech? Maybe it would mean more to me if I was actually alive during the Vietnam war, but this is my third election voting for president and you Baby Boomer people STILL won't shut up about it so with all due respect for McCain's service, I'm really freaking sick of everything being about Vietnam when that has absolutely nothing to do with younger Americans.

Posted by: hisgirlfriday | September 5, 2008 1:26 AM | Report abuse

McCain looked and sounded weak to me. He had a desperate tone. The attempt to focus on democrats as being evil left wing demons does not appeal to middle-of-the-road citizens that are concerned with the extreme economic hardships that the current administration has caused. People fear that Mccain-Palin will continue this economic decline, and rather then offering hopeful solutions, McCain escalated a tone of fear and division. Palin did not compliment him either. She used this platform to vent anger - not hope - I given them both a "fail".

Posted by: Joe Voter | September 5, 2008 1:25 AM | Report abuse

Is Mccain ok in the head? 5 1/2 years of torture is a lot to bear. Just wondering.......

Posted by: Confused | September 5, 2008 1:25 AM | Report abuse

After watching both conventions with an open mind,I must say that Mcain / Phaln have got ma thinking. John votes for what is right regardless of what it will do to his future in Politics. He voted with Pres.Bush 90 or so times because what he voted on had to be done. he didin't think or care what people or Dems running against him in a future election would would say. He did what was right then and will do what has to be done in the future as Commander in Chife when elected.A vote for the Dems will bring back massive welfare programs and weaken the Back Bone of America. That is what the the enemies of our Grate Country anr hopeing for. Surrander in Iraq, and meet Russia and beg pretty please leave Georgia alone. How about Iran ? Do you want a Pres.who will go there for talks and read the Keran with the Iatolla. Keep America strong . Get some nerve, Grow some Backbone. Or would you rather a Shoeboomber sneak across the Can\Am border and stuff his foot where the sun don't shine. It'll be a little late then to ask The Maverick for help.
Be All You Can BE !!
Be Proud-Be American
Mcain-YES BO-NO

Posted by: George Van | September 5, 2008 1:25 AM | Report abuse

Judi from Australia.... I am so glad you can't vote in the U.S.

Posted by: Paris | September 5, 2008 1:24 AM | Report abuse

Dems are dizzy with apoplexy. McCain must be on to something!

Posted by: stang | September 5, 2008 1:24 AM | Report abuse

Good speech, but it is as if the GOP hasn't been governing for the past 8 years.

Posted by: DH | September 5, 2008 1:24 AM | Report abuse

I hope there is a NONE OF THE ABOVE box to check on the election ballot. We are a country of great wealth, ingenuity, science & industry, and we get these two choices.

1. An old man with a long history of voting party lines, then insighting a battle cry of storming the castle of his own party. Gee John, if they stunk so bad why did you vote with them 90% of the time.

An inexperienced liberal democrat with ties to unsavory charachters. Golly Barrack, guilt by association may not be in the law books, but tell that to a street cop working in a rough neighborhood.

Can I please get a "do over". No wonder the world hates us, we squandered are high ideals for corporate profits. And lets not forget a portion of the population still expects a monthly check for doing nothing.

I give up.

Posted by: FALCONDRIVER | September 5, 2008 1:23 AM | Report abuse

Reading these comments is renewing my hope in my fellow citizens. It looks like most Americans were not fooled by McCain/Palin and the GOP. I can't wait to cast my vote for Obama/Biden!

Posted by: Jamie | September 5, 2008 1:23 AM | Report abuse

McCain criticizing an administration he has voted with more than 90% of the time? Just another example of how he will say anything and do anything to get elected. Country First? What a joke. He's right about the current administration, but how can he possibly offer any change. McCain = 4 more years of the same or worse. More conservative supreme court, worse economy, continuing the wars we already can't afford and the possibility of 'bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran' as well.
Obama/Biden 08!

Posted by: Evan | September 5, 2008 1:23 AM | Report abuse

I loved it. He addressed everything the country needs in a humble way. I am also glad that his wife got a chance to speak. She is an amazing woman who gets a lot of flak from the ignorant masses. How many Americans have consistently and quietly gone to the poorest places in the world and served others like she has? Very few.

I found it ironic that McCain's night would include and recognize close friends and ordinary Africans in the family's box. While Obama seems to have forgotten about his African relatives during his convention speech.

Posted by: kevin h | September 5, 2008 1:23 AM | Report abuse

Rainy, you have to look at the party behind the P.O.W. -- unfortunately.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 1:22 AM | Report abuse

If you were in China, Aurora, you'd be an orphan. Guess we both lucked out, huh? See ya on the playground...

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 1:22 AM | Report abuse

"Obama can write his own speeches and often does. This is the main reason why he can speak from his heart. " ..... Oh really Earl, is that why he stutters and was lost when his teleprompter fails?

Posted by: K | September 5, 2008 1:22 AM | Report abuse

I agree with the pitbull comment coming back to haunt her. A town near is banning them because they can be vicious and unpredictable. Oh, and not real smart, folks.
(Sorry pit bull lovers, but it is true that they can be the best dogs one day and then the next -- Boom! rip apart your neighbor's dog...)

Posted by: Midwestern Mom | September 5, 2008 1:21 AM | Report abuse

I am an Australian. I watched McCain and Palin's speeches. What on earth are they thinking? An old man who has voted with Bush 98% of the time and a mother of 5 children, one a newborn, to lead the free world? Sorry America, you are making the world laugh.
Vote for CHANGE, vote for Obama!

Posted by: Judi | September 5, 2008 1:21 AM | Report abuse

Yes, run away Aurora, the truth is tough for some people.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 1:20 AM | Report abuse

I was humbled by Senator McCains message. No, he is not the most compelling speaker nor is his sense of timing perfect. Yet he has what I want in my leader - honesty, strength, wisdom and charachter. As a comparison, I find Obama a fine speaker and someone skilled at parsing his words. I look at Obama and see someone lacking in substance. I see that substance in McCain and for that reason he will now have my vote.

Posted by: Rainy | September 5, 2008 1:19 AM | Report abuse

McCain was a vietnamese collaborator who sold out the air force by giving the vietnamese intel about our bombing targets in Vietnam. They moved their artillary adn shot down 60% of our planes forcing the air force to pull back in retreat.

What a lying piece of scum. I can't believe the Pentagon would let this traitor back into the country. Most people would bow their heads down in shame, but good old McLame thinks he's a war hero even though there aren't any war heroes around to vouch for him.

http://www.counterpunch.org/valentine06132008.html


http://newswithviews.com/Devvy/kidd59.htm


Even the Vietnamese came forward a couple of months ago and said he wasn't tortured.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7459946.stm

Posted by: McCain the collaborator/traitor | September 5, 2008 1:19 AM | Report abuse

Keith - no one here believes you voted for Obama. Give us some cred, man.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 1:19 AM | Report abuse

I noticed multiple times people in the crowd yawning directly in the camera...and these are his staunch supporters.

McCain + Palin = McPain

Posted by: yawn | September 5, 2008 1:19 AM | Report abuse

The below poster is right about the convention, things couldnt have gone worse for the Republicans. What struck me the most was the homogeneous nature of the crowd because they all looked like country club elites. I have a hard time believing the casual network viewers didn't notice how different they all look from the normal crowd you see on the train in the morning rush hour and didn't wonder if McCain/Palin will really represent them?

Posted by: BridgesC | September 5, 2008 1:18 AM | Report abuse

Ooops, I stepped into the world of liberal children... I'll run along and look for adults now.

Please, continue with your lack of respect and spoiled brat behavior. Only in America folks... If you were in China, you'd be muffled. You wouldn't get this much freedom (fought by our courages, obviously not you) that you have no respect for.

Posted by: Aurora | September 5, 2008 1:17 AM | Report abuse

Let's see...he has a Rove underling running his campaign, he has embraced the fanatic religious right, he has voted over and over against funds to help returning Iraq/Afghanistan vets, he has voted with his party to prevent the dems in congress to bring forth alternative energy explorations, he didn't stand firm and pick his first choice for VP (Lieberman or Ridge), picked a VP who is a radical prolifer who does not believe in abortion in the case of rape/incest, he is now against his own immigration bill, he is now in support of the Bush tax cuts he opposed, and he claims he is so bi-partisan yet allowed his dogs Rudy, Mitt and Lindsay out to vilify his opponet. And let's not forget he has a virtual army in his campaign who are lobbyists...yet he is for change. Sorry, John, the maverick left in 2000.

Posted by: cilanne | September 5, 2008 1:17 AM | Report abuse

Mccain really is his own man...have you noticed only the far hard left Hate the MAC...Obama's so far left (actually the farthest) liberals are dividing into seperate camps. I'm changing my vote to Mccain/Palin ! the commie marxist fighters. I can't believe I actually voted for a marxist (obama ) weak on crime gun hater.

Posted by: keith | September 5, 2008 1:17 AM | Report abuse

I was turned off by the way the 'hurrah for our side' rhetoric overwhelmed the content. Traditionally it's a time to energize the party faithful, but he was making more of an emotional than rational appeal.

He keeps saying 'change', but they're clearly out of ideas. I'm an independent, but will probably vote for Obama just to flush the neocons out of the system. They've proven their incompetence.

Posted by: Blaineboy | September 5, 2008 1:17 AM | Report abuse

Edna, honey, next time just give us the link.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 1:16 AM | Report abuse

Warning: when evangelicals are ecstatic, vote Democratic.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 1:16 AM | Report abuse

On a night when the theme was supposed to be peace, McWar only mentioned the word "PEACE" five times!
He mentioned the word "war" seven times, and repeated the word "fight" - get this - 22 times.
Speech grade: on a scale A-F, it was a Z-
What does that tell you folks?
Bomb bomb Iran.

Posted by: JC | September 5, 2008 1:16 AM | Report abuse

Usually Republican conventions are sharp-edged, organized, and cutthroat. This year was not the case; they were completely upstaged by the Democrats, who in the past have lacked the expertise to properly organize a stamp collection. A rogue hurricane, a questionable VP choice, and a weak candidate really wrecked this one. I suppose there are still the three debates for McCain to recover, but at this point I'm really wondering: did the Repubs drop the ball, or are they just not trying?

Posted by: Alexander | September 5, 2008 1:16 AM | Report abuse

The individual below who wrote about presidents having little power to enact their agenda ignores the record of George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, Theodore Roosevelt, Franklin D Roosevelt, Lyndon Johnson and Ronald Reagan, who had ambitious domestic agendas, which they were able to have largely enacted by Congress.

According to some commentators, nearly all of the Republicans were negative, downright nasty in their speeches. McCain often comes across as something of an enigma, offering himself as a "reformer," "maverick" and seeking bipartisanship, but seldom giving any specific examples of these slogans.

McCain has supported Bush in over 90% of his votes. This completely undermines his rhetoric about representing "change," "reform," or being a "maverick." He says he "hates" war, but wanted the United States to invade Iraq, Iran and Syria. McCain's belligerence on foriegn policies is on the same level as Cheney, more warlike than even Bush.

McCain knows if elected president, he will have Democratic majorities in Congress for at least two years, probably longer. He therefore may realize he will need to have a somewhat bipartisan approach to enact laws and budgets. Most Republicans though, whether they are in the majority or minority in Congress, think they should rule. The Republicans in Congress are very similar to the Republicans in the California state legislature. They believe, even as the minority, they should have the virtual veto power to decide important policies, especially relating to new programs and budgets.

Posted by: Independent | September 5, 2008 1:15 AM | Report abuse

Thanks for the reminder Joe.

I remember George W. telling us in 2000 that he would lower the price of gas when it was at about $1.20.

Even with a doubling of federal lands for oil drilling, how exactly has that worked out?

Posted by: JP2 | September 5, 2008 1:15 AM | Report abuse

Edna, if tearing up over the national anthem is your criterion, I have a fifth grader you can vote for.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 1:15 AM | Report abuse

A solid acceptance speech. McCain's task was to leave the convention with his party energized and united behind him, for the 8-week marathon ahead. He did that.

Posted by: Maxbert | September 5, 2008 1:15 AM | Report abuse

It's consistently obvious how bitter liberals are today. If Hussein is elected, it is likely because we are quickly headed for the rapture and he might be what is needed for the U.S. to give up its stand for Israel. But, most liberals probably don't believe in the rapture. We'll see who wins in the End.

Posted by: Osama | September 5, 2008 1:14 AM | Report abuse

Oh my pearls!
Here’s what the GOP will be saying in hindsight—John McCain and Paris Hilton: The ticket that could have been! LOL

Posted by: Barbara Bush | September 5, 2008 1:13 AM | Report abuse


JOHN MCCAIN LEADER OR MADMAN
YOU BE THE JUDGE.

WASHINGTON — Senator John McCain arrived late at his Senate office on the morning of Sept. 11, 2001, just after the first plane hit the World Trade Center. “This is war,” he murmured to his aides. The sound of scrambling fighter planes rattled the windows, sending a tremor of panic through the room.


Erik Jacobs for The New York Times
John McCain said he had consulted Henry A. Kissinger on foreign policy before and after the Sept. 11 attacks.

Within hours, Mr. McCain, the Vietnam War hero and famed straight talker of the 2000 Republican primary, had taken on a new role: the leading advocate of taking the American retaliation against Al Qaeda far beyond Afghanistan. In a marathon of television and radio appearances, Mr. McCain recited a short list of other countries said to support terrorism, invariably including Iraq, Iran and Syria.

“There is a system out there or network, and that network is going to have to be attacked,” Mr. McCain said the next morning on ABC News. “It isn’t just Afghanistan,” he added, on MSNBC. “I don’t think if you got bin Laden tomorrow that the threat has disappeared,” he said on CBS, pointing toward other countries in the Middle East.

Within a month he made clear his priority. “Very obviously Iraq is the first country,” he declared on CNN. By Jan. 2, Mr. McCain was on the aircraft carrier Theodore Roosevelt in the Arabian Sea, yelling to a crowd of sailors and airmen: “Next up, Baghdad!”

Now, as Mr. McCain prepares to accept the Republican presidential nomination, his response to the attacks of Sept. 11 opens a window onto how he might approach the gravest responsibilities of a potential commander in chief. Like many, he immediately recalibrated his assessment of the unseen risks to America’s security. But he also began to suggest that he saw a new “opportunity” to deter other potential foes by punishing not only Al Qaeda but also Iraq.

“Just as Sept. 11 revolutionized our resolve to defeat our enemies, so has it brought into focus the opportunities we now have to secure and expand our freedom,” Mr. McCain told a NATO conference in Munich in early 2002, urging the Europeans to join what he portrayed as an all but certain assault on Saddam Hussein. “A better world is already emerging from the rubble.”

To his admirers, Mr. McCain’s tough response to Sept. 11 is at the heart of his appeal. They argue that he displayed the same decisiveness again last week in his swift calls to penalize Russia for its incursion into Georgia, in part by sending peacekeepers to police its border.

His critics charge that the emotion of Sept. 11 overwhelmed his former cool-eyed caution about deploying American troops without a clear national interest and a well-defined exit, turning him into a tool of the Bush administration in its push for a war to transform the region.

“He has the personality of a fighter pilot: when somebody stings you, you want to strike out,” said retired Gen. John H. Johns, a former friend and supporter of Mr. McCain who turned against him over the Iraq war. “Just like the American people, his reaction was: show me somebody to hit.”

Whether through ideology or instinct, though, Mr. McCain began making his case for invading Iraq to the public more than six months before the White House began to do the same. He drew on principles he learned growing up in a military family and on conclusions he formed as a prisoner in North Vietnam. He also returned to a conviction about “the common identity” of dangerous autocracies as far-flung as Serbia and North Korea that he had developed consulting with hawkish foreign policy thinkers to help sharpen the themes of his 2000 presidential campaign.

While pushing to take on Saddam Hussein, Mr. McCain also made arguments and statements that he may no longer wish to recall. He lauded the war planners he would later criticize, including Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld and Vice President Dick Cheney. (Mr. McCain even volunteered that he would have given the same job to Mr. Cheney.) He urged support for the later-discredited Iraqi exile Ahmad Chalabi’s opposition group, the Iraqi National Congress, and echoed some of its suspect accusations in the national media. And he advanced misleading assertions not only about Mr. Hussein’s supposed weapons programs but also about his possible ties to international terrorists, Al Qaeda and the Sept. 11 attacks.

Five years after the invasion of Iraq, Mr. McCain’s supporters note that he became an early critic of the administration’s execution of the occupation, and they credit him with pushing the troop “surge” that helped bring stability. Mr. McCain, though, stands by his support for the war and expresses no regrets about his advocacy.

In written answers to questions, he blamed “Iraq’s opacity under Saddam” for any misleading remarks he made about the peril it posed.

The Sept. 11 attacks “demonstrated the grave threat posed by a hostile regime, possessing weapons of mass destruction, and with reported ties to terrorists,” Mr. McCain wrote in an e-mail message on Friday. Given Mr. Hussein’s history of pursuing illegal weapons and his avowed hostility to the United States, “his regime posed a threat we had to take seriously.” The attacks were still a reminder, Mr. McCain added, of the importance of international action “to prevent outlaw states — like Iran today — from developing weapons of mass destruction.”

Formative Years

Mr. McCain has been debating questions about the use of military force far longer than most. He grew up in a family that had sent a son to every American war since 1776, and international relations were a staple of the McCain family dinner table. Mr. McCain grew up listening to his father, Adm. John S. McCain Jr., deliver lectures on “The Four Ocean Navy and the Soviet Threat,” closing with a slide of an image he considered the ultimate factor in the balance of power: a soldier marching through a rice paddy with a rifle at his shoulder.

“To quote Sherman, war is all hell and we need to fight it out and get it over with and that is when the killing stops,” recalled Joe McCain, Senator McCain’s younger brother.

Vietnam, for Senator McCain, reinforced those lessons. He has often said he blamed the Johnson administration’s pause in bombing for prolonging the war, and he credited President Richard M. Nixon’s renewed attacks with securing his release from a North Vietnamese prison. He has made the principle that the exercise of military power sets the bargaining table for international relations a consistent theme of his career ever since, and in his 2002 memoir he wrote that one of his lifelong convictions was “the imperative that American power never retreat in response to an inferior adversary’s provocation.”


But Mr. McCain also took away from Vietnam a second, restraining lesson: the necessity for broad domestic support for any military action. For years he opposed a string of interventions — in Lebanon, Haiti, Somalia, and, for a time, the Balkans — on the grounds that the public would balk at the loss of life without clear national interests. “The Vietnam thing,” he recently said.

In the late 1990s, however, while he was beginning to consider his 2000 presidential race, he started rebalancing his view of the needs to project American strength and to sustain public support. The 1995 massacre of 5,000 unarmed Bosnian Muslims at Srebrenica under NATO’s watch struck at his conscience, he has said, and in addition to America’s strategic national interests — in that case, the future and credibility of NATO — Mr. McCain began to speak more expansively about America’s moral obligations as the only remaining superpower.

His aides say he later described the American air strikes in Bosnia in 1996 and in Kosovo in 1999 as a parable of political leadership: Mr. McCain, Senator Bob Dole and others had rallied Congressional support for the strikes despite widespread public opposition, then watched approval soar after the intervention helped to bring peace.

“Americans elect their leaders to make these kinds of judgments,” Mr. McCain said in the e-mail message.

It was during the Balkan wars that Mr. McCain and his advisers read a 1997 article on the Wall Street Journal editorial page by William Kristol and David Brooks of The Weekly Standard — both now Op-Ed page columnists at The New York Times — promoting the idea of “national greatness” conservatism, defined by a more activist agenda at home and a more muscular role in the world.

“I wouldn’t call it a ‘eureka’ moment, but there was a sense that this is where we are headed and this is what we are trying to articulate and they have already done a lot of the work,” said John Weaver, a former McCain political adviser. “And, quite frankly, from a crass political point of view, we were in the making-friends business. The Weekly Standard represented a part of the primary electorate that we could get.”

Soon Mr. McCain and his aides were consulting regularly with the circle of hawkish foreign policy thinkers sometimes referred to as neoconservatives — including Mr. Kristol, Robert Kagan and Randy Scheunemann, a former aide to Mr. Dole who became a McCain campaign adviser — to develop the senator’s foreign policy ideas and instincts into the broad themes of a presidential campaign. (In his e-mail message, Mr. McCain noted that he had also consulted with friends like Henry A. Kissinger, known for a narrower view of American interests.)

One result was a series of speeches in which Mr. McCain called for “rogue state rollback.” He argued that disparate regional troublemakers, including Iraq, North Korea and Serbia, bore a common stamp: they were all autocracies. And as such, he contended, they were more likely to export terrorism, spread dangerous weapons, or start ethnic conflicts. In an early outline of what would become his initial response to the Sept. 11 attacks, Mr. McCain argued that “swift and sure” retribution against any one of the rogue states was an essential deterrent to any of the others. But Mr. McCain’s advisers and aides say his “rogue state” speeches stopped short of the most sweeping international agenda put forth by Mr. Kristol, Mr. Kagan and their allies. Mr. McCain explicitly disavowed direct military action merely to advance American values, foreswearing any “global crusade” of interventions in favor of relying on covert and financial support for internal opposition groups.

As an example, he could point to his 1998 sponsorship of the Iraqi Liberation Act, which sought to direct nearly $100 million to Iraqis who hoped to overthrow Saddam Hussein. The bill, signed by President Bill Clinton, also endorsed the ouster of Mr. Hussein.

Mr. McCain said then that he doubted the United States could muster the political will to use ground troops to remove the Iraqi dictator any time soon. “It was much easier when Saddam Hussein was occupying Kuwait and threatening Saudi Arabia,” the senator told Fox News in November 1998. “We’d have to convince the American people that it’s worth again the sacrifice of American lives, because that would also be part of the price.”

Hard Calls

Mr. McCain spent the afternoon of Sept. 11 in a young aide’s studio apartment near the Capitol. There was no cable television, nothing but water in the kitchen, and the hallway reminded him of an old boxing gym. Evacuated from his office but stranded by traffic, he could not resist imagining himself at the other end of Pennsylvania Avenue. “There are not enough Secret Service agents in the world to keep me away from Washington and New York at a time like this,” Mr. McCain told an adviser.


Over the next days and weeks, however, Mr. McCain became almost as visible as he would have been as president. Broadcasters rushed to him as a patriotic icon and reassuring voice, and for weeks he was ubiquitous on the morning news programs, Sunday talk shows, cable news networks, and even late-night comedy shows.

In the spotlight, he pushed rogue state rollback one step further, arguing that the United States should go on the offensive as a warning to any other country that might condone such an attack. “These networks are well-embedded in some of these countries,” Mr. McCain said on Sept. 12, listing Iraq, Iran and Syria as potential targets of United States pressure. “We’re going to have to prove to them that we are very serious, and the price that they will pay will not only be for punishment but also deterrence.”

Although he had campaigned for President Bush during the 2000 general election, he was still largely frozen out of the White House because of animosities left over from the Republican primary. But after Mr. Bush declared he would hold responsible any country condoning terrorism, Mr. McCain called his leadership “magnificent” and his national security team the strongest “that has ever been assembled.” A few weeks later, Larry King of CNN asked whether he would have named Mr. Rumsfeld and Colin L. Powell to a McCain cabinet. “Oh, yes, and Cheney,” Mr. McCain answered, saying he, too, would have offered Mr. Cheney the vice presidency.

Even during the heat of the war in Afghanistan, Mr. McCain kept an eye on Iraq. To Jay Leno in mid-September, Mr. McCain said he believed “some other countries” had assisted Osama bin Laden, going on to suggest Iraq, Syria and Iran as potential suspects. In October 2001, when an Op-Ed page column in The New York Times speculated that Iraq, Russia or some other country might bear responsibility for that month’s anthrax mailings, Mr. McCain interrupted a question about Afghanistan from David Letterman on that night’s “Late Show.” “The second phase is Iraq,” Mr. McCain said, adding, “Some of this anthrax may — and I emphasize may — have come from Iraq.” (The Federal Bureau of Investigation says it came from a federal government laboratory in Maryland.) By October, United States and foreign intelligence agencies had said publicly that they doubted any cooperation between Mr. Hussein and Al Qaeda, noting Al Qaeda’s opposition to such secular nationalists. American intelligence officials soon declared that Mr. Hussein had not supported international terrorism for nearly a decade.

But when the Czech government said that before the attacks, one of the 9/11 hijackers had met in Prague with an Iraqi intelligence official, Mr. McCain seized the report as something close to a smoking gun. “The evidence is very clear,” he said three days later, in an Oct. 29 television interview. (Intelligence agencies quickly cast doubt on the meeting.)

Frustrated by the dearth of American intelligence about Iraq, Mr. McCain’s aides say, he had long sought to learn as much as he could from Iraqi opposition figures in exile, including Mr. Chalabi of the Iraqi National Congress. Over the years, Mr. McCain often urged support for the group, saying it had “significant support, in my view, inside Iraq.”

After Sept. 11, Mr. Chalabi’s group said an Iraqi emissary had once met with Osama bin Laden, and brought forward two Iraqi defectors who described terrorist training camps and biological weapons efforts. At times, Mr. McCain seemed to echo their accusations, citing the “two defectors” in a television interview and attesting to “credible reports of involvement between Iraqi administration officials, Iraqi officials and the terrorists.”

Growing Impatient

But United States intelligence officials had doubts about Mr. Chalabi at the time and have since discredited his group. In 2006, Mr. McCain acknowledged to The New Republic that he had been “too enamored with the I.N.C.” In his e-mail message, though, he said he never relied on the group for information about Iraq’s weapons program.

At a European security conference in February 2002, when the Bush administration still publicly maintained that it had made no decision about moving against Iraq, Mr. McCain described an invasion as all but certain. “A terrorist resides in Baghdad,” he said, adding, “A day of reckoning is approaching.”

Regime change in Iraq in addition to Afghanistan, he argued, would compel other sponsors of terrorism to mend their ways, “accomplishing by example what we would otherwise have to pursue through force of arms.”

Finally, as American troops massed in the Persian Gulf in early 2003, Mr. McCain grew impatient, his aides say, concerned that the White House was failing to act as the hot desert summer neared. Waiting, he warned in a speech in Washington, risked squandering the public and international support aroused by Sept. 11. “Does anyone really believe that the world’s will to contain Saddam won’t eventually collapse as utterly as it did in the 1990s?” Mr. McCain asked.

In retrospect, some of Mr. McCain’s critics now accuse him of looking for a pretext to justify the war. “McCain was hell-bent for leather: ‘Saddam Hussein is a bad guy, we have got to teach him, let’s send a message to the other people in the Middle East,’ ” said Senator John Kerry, Democrat of Massachusetts.

But Mr. McCain, in his e-mail message, said the reason he had supported the war was the evolving threat from Mr. Hussein.

“I believe voters elect their leaders based on their experience and judgment — their ability to make hard calls, for instance, on matters of war and peace,” he wrote. “It’s important to get them right.”


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For all you nay sayers and Obama lovers, which I was impressed at first, why does Obama not put his hand over his heart as patriotic people do during the national anthem. I would rather have a guy that tears up when talking about his country than one that shows no emotion.

Posted by: Edna | September 5, 2008 1:06 AM

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 1:13 AM | Report abuse

I swear....HD TV absolutely hates John McCain....no Vaseline filters on the lense to hide his gruesome Dead Man Walking look here..that's for sure!!!!! And Cindy?..Lay of the botox..your face is just plain DEAD. Palin...you hot..as long as we don't here that shrill annoying home room teacher voice..and Bristol and the not so happy redneck boyfriend?..who the hell are you kidding? You two are praying McCain wont win so you don't have to go through the shotgun wedding!!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 1:13 AM | Report abuse

Greg,

Interesting point regarding the Executive branch not making policy.

This isn't quite true.

The Executive branch can shape policy in the way that it interprets federal legislation (e.g. in how it manages Executive departments and in who the appointees to departments are).

It's also true that it does have a hand in shaping Congressional legislation.

The energy execs from Enron and Big Oil weren't just making personal calls when they dropped by to see Cheney in 2001. They were there to do business and get policy written that favored their interest.

This is true in any number of policy areas.

One aspect of Obama's candidacy that at least holds the promise of a difference is the fact that he has a large donor pool to work with. He has some big money players, but he can also tap into small donor networks and strike a balance that reflects a broader range of interests.

McCain is relying almost solely on the Big money players -- the usual suspects that fund GOP campaigns.

The fact that his main campaign advisers and likely policy advisers are federal corporate lobbyists suggest that McCain will have an even harder time delivering on his promises. Those advisers are the ones who will have the greatest hand in shaping policy details.

Posted by: JP2 | September 5, 2008 1:12 AM | Report abuse

I have news for people. Obama can write his own speeches and often does. This is the main reason why he can speak from his heart. When Palin and McCain "read" their speeches, there is a sense of awe that they even experience when certain lines come up that they particularly like. There is sometimes a detachment from what they are saying. Bascially, they showed that they could be coached to deliver the lines. The redundancy of many of the speeches showed that the speech-writing was not done by a particularly creative bunch. Of course, we have had to endure eight years of this already. It does come across as propaganda when you hear many people within a short period of time say the exact same things.

Palin's big line about the pitbull could easily come back to haunt her in the days ahead. Pitbulls do not have a great reputation in my region.

The campaign ads need to change. One of the McCain ads talks about Democrats and deficits into the future. Well, the same can be said for Republicans who have now given us 8 years of deficits following a balanced budget that they were given. It took Bill Clinton about 6 years to turn the annual budget deficits into surpluses, but he did. Remember, he followed 12 years of Republican deficit budgets. Yes, it will take Obama some time to turn the ship of state around again. Accusing the Democrats of having budget deficits is about as tactful as accusing us of being unpatriotic or wanting to lose the war in Iraq, neither of which is true.

Posted by: Earl C | September 5, 2008 1:12 AM | Report abuse

I don't hate John McCain specifically. I just hate Republicans generally. It's a bad party run by bad people. All that "USA! USA! USA!" b.s.? What is that? It's a nominating convention, not the 1980 Olympic hockey final.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 1:11 AM | Report abuse

just remember gas lines and tire gauges in an Obama administration

Posted by: Joe | September 5, 2008 1:11 AM | Report abuse

Actually, I liked his speech better than Sarah's. He was moving and, I believe, truly humble. He pretty much succeeded in coming across as the statesman he reportedly wanted to portray. I was glad for McCain to have his time in the spotlight.

He tried but was weak on the issues and sounded too much like George Bush, which I am sure he did not want. I guess he is hoping that the Americans do not really care about issues and policies. Also, saying that I am going to reform Washington without saying how (other than vetoing pork barrel projects) is very lame. Maybe he believes the American people do not really care about the what and the how.

Posted by: Byron | September 5, 2008 1:11 AM | Report abuse

dezngwmn, I agree you could trust McCain. But you can't trust his party -- and he's shown over and over again this past few years that they are in command of him, not the other way around. The Republicans need to sit out a few rounds until they purge themselves of the disease within.

Posted by: Prescription | September 5, 2008 1:10 AM | Report abuse

JOHN MCCAIN, TRAITOR TO HIS COUNTRY, COLLABORATOR WITH THE ENEMY, MILITARY DISGRACE.
Ted Sampley, a Vietnam Veteran and former Green Beret, issued a CHALLENGE to John McCain "If you can show us that the information presented in our mailer is untruthful . . . we will Stand Down" This CHALLENGE was issued during an interview with INSIDE EDITION on January 17, 2008.
John, family members of Vietnam POW/MIA(s) have been waiting for more then 14 years for you to have the courage to face them eye to eye in front of the American Public - Here is your opportunity for some "STRAIGHT TALK." Stop hiding behind your fabricated "War Hero" persona. You know we can prove your collaborations with declassified government documents . . . It is time for the American people to get to know the REAL John McCain - the John McCain that the POW/MIA families witnessed during the 1991-93 US Senate Select Committee on POW/MIA Affairs .
Bring It On John! HERE IS OUR NUMBER 252-527-0442
*********** ************* ************** *********** ***********
Activists accused McCain of stonewalling the release of POW records because they contained evidence he had collaborated with the North Vietnamese.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MUY9S6iCvk
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This was a speech about trust, character, and change.
While flippant 20somethings miss the point because they aren't old enough, this is a man we can trust. He has come back again and again and never faltered. Obama is a slick product of the Chicago machine with few votes that count and even less of a record. He simply wants to redistribute income to the poor.
John McCain is all about character and will
work to change our country for the better.
He, rather than Obama, had the guts to name
a woman as his vp choice. Obama elected for more of the same.

Posted by: dezngwmn | September 5, 2008 1:06 AM

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 1:09 AM | Report abuse

I think its a sad day for America when these are the best choices that America has to offer: a near-Octogenarian who barely graduated from the Naval Academy and a guy with zero experience at anything but speech giving.

The worst part is the "B Team" - Hillary and Mitt - aren't any better.

Harold Ford, Jr. and Gov. Pawlenty better get motivated...they may be the last chance this country has to right the ship.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 1:09 AM | Report abuse

This was a speech about trust, character, and change.
While flippant 20somethings miss the point because they aren't old enough, this is a man we can trust. He has come back again and again and never faltered. Obama is a slick product of the Chicago machine with few votes that count and even less of a record. He simply wants to redistribute income to the poor.
John McCain is all about character and will
work to change our country for the better.
He, rather than Obama, had the guts to name
a woman as his vp choice. Obama elected for more of the same.

Posted by: ECW | September 5, 2008 1:08 AM | Report abuse

There's going to be no bounce after this convention. The religious right will ramp up a bit for McCain because of Palin. Normal people will be fleeing the tent for the Obama ticket.

Posted by: Sorry Charlie | September 5, 2008 1:08 AM | Report abuse

I was struck by how weak--even un-Republican--McCain's speech must have sounded to a hardcore conservative. McCain talked about social programs to help the unemployed. He mentioned tackling the problem of global warming. He lamented the conduct of his own party for the last eight years. Religion was never mentioned, and McCain's anti-choice stance was certainly not featured. My sense was that the delegates were not thrilled with their candidate but just excited to be on a potentially winning team--even if it doesn't represent their actual views.

Posted by: not a republican speech | September 5, 2008 1:07 AM | Report abuse

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Posted by: alisa | September 5, 2008 1:07 AM | Report abuse

Thanks for the cash Palin, you dolt!


Barack Obama's campaign for president has raised $10 million since Republican vice-presidential candidate Sarah Palin spoke Wednesday night, the campaign announced, calling it a "one-day record."
Palin, the governor of Alaska, launched harsh attacks on Obama, accusing him of being two-faced and a political lightweight with no significant legislative accomplishments.

"Coverage of the Palin attacks on the news this evening just pushed us over $10 million," Obama spokeswoman Jen Psaki said in an e-mail to reporters Wednesday night.

The Republican Party announced earlier in the day it had raised $1 million in the wake of Palin's speech.

Posted by: McLame/Failin 2008 | September 5, 2008 1:07 AM | Report abuse

The speech was ignorant and to me sung the tune of war. Fight, Fight, Fight he said time and time again. McCain is a War Monster, he will only cause this country more debt and dissolution. We need to talk about the country, not how you got tortured in Vietnam, which by the way would only lead to him having some major mental issues. Anyway, Obama is a way better speaker, is way more intelligent and is far far more honest with his tone. Thanks

OBAMA/08

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 1:07 AM | Report abuse

Traitor - Please don't Swift-Boat they guy. Would I have done as well in captivity - likely not.

There was a time I would have voted for him, but that time has come... and gone. As much as he wants to be a maverick reformer, the neocons have his ear and they won't be letting go. I suggest all find a copy of Reagan's Iran Contra apology speech "I can't believe I would have done this but apparently I did", and you will see McCain's fate - well meaning, genial, and just slowed enough mentally to be entirely manipulated by the neocons.

Posted by: patriot | September 5, 2008 1:06 AM | Report abuse

This was a speech about trust, character, and change.
While flippant 20somethings miss the point because they aren't old enough, this is a man we can trust. He has come back again and again and never faltered. Obama is a slick product of the Chicago machine with few votes that count and even less of a record. He simply wants to redistribute income to the poor.
John McCain is all about character and will
work to change our country for the better.
He, rather than Obama, had the guts to name
a woman as his vp choice. Obama elected for more of the same.

Posted by: dezngwmn | September 5, 2008 1:06 AM | Report abuse

I expected a boring speech, after the dazzle of Obama and Palin, but that was not what we got. I did not plan to be riveted and humbled. Tonight, John McCain has won my respect and my vote. He spoke with clarity, reason, humility and grace. He makes me want to do my part too.

Posted by: Woodroad | September 5, 2008 1:06 AM | Report abuse

It really is amazing how someone who has spent decades in politics still conducts public speaking on a 9th Grade level. Really, if I gave a Powerpoint presentation the way he gives an acceptance speech I would definately lose my job. McCain may be a decent guy but he is nothing more than a sacrificial lamb ala Bob Dole; the Republican powers knew early on they had no chance to win this election, and they're preserving their competitive candidates for 2012.

Posted by: Woodrow | September 5, 2008 1:06 AM | Report abuse

For all you nay sayers and Obama lovers, which I was impressed at first, why does Obama not put his hand over his heart as patriotic people do during the national anthem. I would rather have a guy that tears up when talking about his country than one that shows no emotion.

Posted by: Edna | September 5, 2008 1:06 AM | Report abuse

One Word

Boring.

Barack Obama wins the round of an amazing spectacle.

McCain deserves respect for being more or less a good man in this election so far. Palin truly is an attack dog and will be contrasted with McCain a lot in this election.

He did a good job for what he needed to do, it just wasn't interesting or as important as Obama's speech.

If this RNC has taught me anything, is that Guliani is full of it, and I am glad he isn't the Rep. Nominee.

Also, the RNC was rather dull in comparison to the DNC, Palin being the only exception.

(hope I don't sound too stupid)

Obama/Biden 2008 Please

Posted by: JohnE. | September 5, 2008 1:06 AM | Report abuse

You got the feeling that John McCain, tonight, looked at the audience and saw them for the first time for what they are. That would make me pale and shaky too.

Posted by: Seeing the Light | September 5, 2008 1:06 AM | Report abuse

I was on the fence and he won me over. Answered all the questions I had and now he has my support. Obama's speech made me feel good but uncertain... McCain's speech made me feel safe & proud & hopeful & optimistic & VERY CERTAIN.

Posted by: Angela | September 5, 2008 1:06 AM | Report abuse

McCain was at the bottom of his academy class and still got jets. That is never heard of. Those guys go surface-line. Do ya think that could have been because his dad was an admiral. Sure tootin! He crashed three jets in the US before heading off to vietnam. That would be more than enough to ground an aviator. Then he nearly single handedly burned a US carrier to the keel. He has more American kills during vietnam than any vietnamese.

And this is our next president? Get real.

Posted by: smoffitt | September 5, 2008 1:05 AM | Report abuse

He had a lot of cut and paste one liners in there. But it's time for something better. I'm going to vote for Barack Obama.

Posted by: Chanting | September 5, 2008 1:05 AM | Report abuse

Great to see I am in the majority tonight - McCain was painful to watch (as was his wife - Yikes!)

I didn't see the 9/11 video, but it's showing is just the R's playing the only card they have == fear. I hate politics being like football, where people are so into winning that they don't look at logic. The last 8 years will go down as one of the biggest disasters in American politics. Good riddance.

Posted by: Midwestern Mom | September 5, 2008 1:05 AM | Report abuse

I truly liked John in 2000. He is not the same man. He is unfortunately also suffering the ravages of time. Yes his mother is in her nineties, but she did not suffer the physical and mental abuse he did in his lifetime. I can't help but wonder if he could make it through four years in the White House. Then what? Palen? A truly irresponsible act to vote for McCain. Sorry John 2000.

Posted by: Mary | September 5, 2008 1:04 AM | Report abuse

Ben... you're the idiot.

Posted by: Kim | September 5, 2008 1:04 AM | Report abuse

Clearly the choice is clear. McCain/Palin is the only ticket that gives us straight talk that we can identify with and believe in. Drill baby drill!

Posted by: Ron W | September 5, 2008 1:04 AM | Report abuse

What struck me most in watching the speech was the realization that if the John McCain of even 10 years ago was running now, Barack Obama probably wouldn't stand a chance. This McCain, though, seems so much smaller, so much less. Repeating the word "maverick" over and over doesn't make it so. He's clearly been led around by the extremists in his party for at least the last four years, perhaps more. This was no maverick - this was a tired old man making the same tired old claims we've been hearing from this party for the last several decades. I didn't even get the sense that he was in control of his own convention, let alone that he could be an effective president.

Posted by: SandraL | September 5, 2008 1:04 AM | Report abuse

Worst convention ever. McCain is the "Manchurian Candidate" and Palin reminds me of an episode of "Desperate Housewives"

Posted by: Jesse | September 5, 2008 1:04 AM | Report abuse

Obama's "new idea" is to solve the problems of the country, not use every crisis or disaster as a way to line the pockets of his cronies, go to war for the oil countries or decimate the Constitution. That's change I can believe in.

Posted by: Better Way | September 5, 2008 1:03 AM | Report abuse

No, really, Republicans will reform Washington THIS time. Trust me!

That speech was between weak and awful.

I found myself saying "this is terrible" about 15 minutes in. I wondered if he would catch on fire, and did in the last 1 minute.

Tired speech, tired message. We've heard it all before.

I feel sorry for him, he should have been President eight years ago!


Posted by: David Tillery | September 5, 2008 1:03 AM | Report abuse

Is it me or did McCain's Mother look really pissed when Palin got all that applause?
What the HELL was that all about??????

Posted by: Laverne | September 5, 2008 1:02 AM | Report abuse

I've always voted for republicans, and Obama delivers a lot of hope. I have to say that I have been looking for any reason not to vote for Obama, and I haven't found it yet.

Funny, universal health care coverage would barely cost more than the war in Iraq. But I think another important issue is with energy. So we think nuclear energy is good?? So we'll just keep burying all those nuclear cores in Nevada so that it glows. Oh yeah, and some day, we'll forget that the cores are down there and build houses, then wonder why our kids have 3 eyes, 1 arm and 7 fingers on their hand and feet. Maybe we should look at more sustainable energy programs with few to no negative off-shoots, hmmm..solar, windpower and ocean currents, to name a few.

I do have to say I liked his plan for the unemployment though. Get laid off from a job shipped overseas, the government will pay the difference between what you made at your old job and your McDonald's wages while you go to school to get a better job. That makes sense and should have been in place for a long time. But I'm curious, while we are busy using our economic and military might to spread our ideals around the world to make the world safer, how can we afford this?

We have an unwarranted war in Iraq, yet we have the right to criticize Russia for invading Georgia? Hmmmm....guess we haven't taught the world our ideals yet!

I just read a poll on a different website that said that Americans disapprove of our Democratic Congress for fiscal irresponsibility, but Obama seems to be more in favor. Should make for an interesting election. I was going to vote for McCain just so there was a balance in Washington, but I just don't think he gets it. I think he would have made a great president in the 70's, but not today. He is just out of touch with what America needs to move forward.

The other side of the coin is that when Obama talks, everyone listens. I have noticed more people talking about politics this year than I can remember. He even manages to shut McCain and the democratic Congress up when he dissents from something the politicians thing the public wants to hear. Maybe we need someone that inspires us, and I don't think McCain was all too inspiring tonight. I'm very sorry this speech happened for McCain, I think this is the beginning of the end for him.

As far as Palin goes, anyone that thinks McCain didn't pick her to try and win over Hilary supporters is wearing blinders. I don't think she has the goods to carry McCain to the Whitehouse. McCain should have gone with someone a little more experienced, and not made such a blatant attempt to win over independents and undecideds. Obviously, McCain and Palin do not believe in family planning in a world running close to the tipping point of over population.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 1:02 AM | Report abuse

My two-month forecast:

- The race will continue to be very close for the next month or so.

- Nobama will cut McCain into pieces in all three debates.

- The VP debate will be a tie.

- By October, Democrats will have a 5-8 point lead.

- McCain's health will deteriorate severely. He won't be able to campaign anymore, throwing the Republican campaign into disarray...

- Then, more Nobama's dirty secrets will be revealed, throwing the Democratic campaign into disarray...

- By November, voters will choose between Joseph Biden and Sarah Palin.

- Sarah Palin will be elected President of the United States.

Posted by: berrymonster | September 5, 2008 1:02 AM | Report abuse

Still looking forward to the Obama administration. Republicans can try to distance themselves from Bush/Cheney all day long, we're not falling for that again!

Posted by: bartolomeo | September 5, 2008 1:02 AM | Report abuse

Cindy is HOT!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 1:02 AM | Report abuse

Obviously McCain's speech wasn't directed at liberals, much like Obama's speeches aren't directed at conservatives. Liberals just won't get McCain's speech and everyone listening to him in that room knows it.

One thing that really seperates Obama and McCain is how they view the executive branch. Obama's belief is old style. He believes his to-do list will actually happen and the way he wants it to happen. The Constitution says otherwise and he should know this being a Constitutional lawyer. That's why all the plans mentioned in the campaigns get dumped the first day on the job. McCain has no plan because the president doesn't make policy, the president approves or vetos it. That's stuff taught in 5th grade or maybe sooner. He even mentions how the system really works in his speech.

Here is something McCain also knows that Obama doesn't. Neither Obama or McCain will get above a 55% approval rating and chances are it's going to be under 50%. Obama is a liberal Democrat first with a party voting record of 98%. Obama is not going to care about half the country when he has Reed and Pelosi help running the show. Chances are he will stop caring about the moderates too and presto Obama is voted out of office with the same approval rating as Carter or Bush. If McCain can quickly revive the moral of the Republican party and then they will be able to take over like when Carter's presidency fell apart. That's what McCain and Palin are really trying to do here and then they will try to get elected second.

Posted by: Greg | September 5, 2008 1:01 AM | Report abuse

I love when liberals talk about "ideas". Throw in a word like "paucity" to make them feel good about themselves-and then an air of smugness and "walla" liberals are the party of ideas.

Anybody want to tell me what "new ideas" Barack Obama has proposed? All I've heard are traditional liberal spending, higher taxes across the board, selecting judges based on "heart", I've heard him slander U.S charitable giving while his brother lives on a $1 per month-but I don't recall a single new idea.

I guess the "new idea" is that someone who babbles the words "change", and never accomplished anything that any of his supporters can name who doesn't really make sense on any particular issue can be President is a "new idea". Of course if they could explain how Joe "never had an idea in his life" Biden fits the mold of "new ideas" I sure would appreciate that as well.

Palin turns their identify politics on their head and Bananarama et. al are screwed. Deal with it.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 1:01 AM | Report abuse

I have only one question for John McCain and Sarah Palin:

WHERE'S THE MOOSE?

Posted by: Chris in Denver | September 5, 2008 1:00 AM | Report abuse

Johnny looked a little ill today. If he had hopes of leading the GOP into territory anywhere near sanity, they all died last night when Carribou Barbie opened her lipsticked mouth.

Posted by: Benefit of the doubt | September 5, 2008 1:00 AM | Report abuse

I don't understand why people want to suppress his POW story. It is a DRAMATIC part of his life, it has formed who he is today. Which is important for people who want to decide whether or not to vote for him.

Not everyone has heard of it for goodness sake. I for one, haven't heard of it.

I bet these complainers had an a life altering event such as that, and runs for office, they'll recognize that the people need to know where they came from.

Similar to why Obama mentions his community organizer... so that others know where he came from.

It's getting old to hear these people who complains about why McCain talks about his experience. They are just toooooo lucky to live the lives they have to not have an event that molds who they are. Or ACTUALLY, they're too unlucky to have any events to occur in their lives to give them character.

I thought he did a great job. Full of substance. Perhaps Obama supporters think otherwise b/c for them, speech making is the best qualifications.

Posted by: Austin | September 5, 2008 1:00 AM | Report abuse

Dear pitbull and gramps,

I saw two American Eagles circling I believe they're called OBAMA and BIDEN.

Watch out! Two speeches with no REAL substance cheered on by suits and a few token minorities.

That is not the America I live in.

Sincerely,

Citizen of the USA

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 1:00 AM | Report abuse

I met John McCain once on the street in Chicago in 2003; he was very personable and gracious when I told him that they should have run him in 2000. But if I was him, I would fire my speech writers. His difficulty with giving an inspired speech was compounded by bland speech writing. I could have written a better speech and I am not even voting for him.

As far as the convention goes, if he couldn’t push back on the Christian right to get his first choice for VP, how is he going to succeed in changing the Republican Party and big business? Those guys make the Christian right look like a bunch of minor leaguers. To me, the party that got us into the mess has too much invested to get us out. Just look at Iraq where the definition of “victory” remains abstract.

Posted by: Tom | September 5, 2008 1:00 AM | Report abuse

I am voting for Senator McCain. Period.

Posted by: Chantal | September 5, 2008 1:00 AM | Report abuse

Short on ideas and policy and WAAAY too long on biography.

Posted by: Piter | September 5, 2008 12:59 AM | Report abuse

As a Republican, I was never too excited for McCain. He seemed like he tried too hard to move to the center, an alienated his conservative base. Tonight's speech may not have changed my attitude, but it was electrifying. At least we have tonight's speech as a highlight of McCain's campaign.

Posted by: Thomas | September 5, 2008 12:59 AM | Report abuse

"Change" and "Hope" aren't ideas...and they're sure aren't strategies. Pretty soon they're going to turn into punchlines.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 12:58 AM | Report abuse

If Obama had made fun of community organizers, the airwaves would be buzzing with the outrage of community organizers everywhere in a carefully orchestrated campaign to decry his lack of patriotism and faith in the salt of the earth little people.

If Hillary had tried to ban a book, the outrage would have been deafening - how dare she tell people what they could read.

So, Dems obsess about teenage sex. They will pay in November.

Posted by: patriot | September 5, 2008 12:58 AM | Report abuse

You gotta feel sorry for the guy. He's the nominee of a party who still loves Bush more than McCain and has gone nuts over the secession queen from Alaska.

Posted by: Pitiful | September 5, 2008 12:57 AM | Report abuse

I bored of the "i was a POW" tune... he needs to sing a new song. Talk about the economy stupid!

Posted by: Ben | September 5, 2008 12:57 AM | Report abuse

I found McCain's speech to be about someone he would like to be. The character development portion was well done, however the description does not match today's John McCain. As for policy issues, these were overly generalized and his Obama tax related bashes were distortions that the campaign has incorrectly been using in TV ads and stump speeches (FactCheck.org). With the exception of some yawning and at least one person dozing, the crowd was like a yo-yo, up and down with regularity. Overall, the speech was flat and this could have been John McCain's last time in such a spotlight.

Posted by: Lou R | September 5, 2008 12:57 AM | Report abuse

Why does Cindy McCain look like she bleeds botox?...Is it me or did she really kill her smile!!!!

Posted by: Casy | September 5, 2008 12:57 AM | Report abuse

I find it crazy that people are blasting McCain for talking about his personal experiences that made him who he is.

Obama's speech never talked about his accomplishments. He talked about his relatives' accomplishments but never his. Do you know why?


'Cause there ain't any.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 12:57 AM | Report abuse

Strange, maybe it's just me, but why do the right-wing posters in here have such a love-affair with the caps-lock key? Is it perhaps the the paucity of ideas coming from their party need to be compensated by bigger letters?

Posted by: Cale | September 5, 2008 12:56 AM | Report abuse

His smile filled my TV screen....sooooo creepy. Yuck, looked more like a character out of a John Carpenter movie. The creepy smile + the pink, scarred skin stretched tight with dirty yellow teeth makes this man very scary.

After 8 years of Bushmania why would any thinking person consider old parchment face. Give us a new look and real energy to build a new future.

Tonights Johnny Boy speech was a low point that the republicans will not rise above.

Now let's get on to what's important.

Obama, you've got my vote!

Posted by: bill | September 5, 2008 12:55 AM | Report abuse

One of McCains best performances.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lhomInJ7Pc

Imagine "Gillian" as Sarah Palin.

Posted by: MNobserver | September 5, 2008 12:55 AM | Report abuse

Palin did a lot of damage to John last night and you can feel he is not happy with her. Palin was way too negative also the image of her big family on stage was way too confusing! I believe John is a good man, but not very smart in choosing such an unqualified running mate and in running his camp.

Posted by: Professor from Harvard | September 5, 2008 12:54 AM | Report abuse

The tone was post-partisan; the substance was partisan with standard GOP policy prescriptions.

In 2000 I think some of these ideas might even have worked OK.

Overall I thought it was very well crafted, and very well delivered.

Ultimately, it's McCain's running mate that is the deal-breaker for me. Yet another hard-right conservative near the White House after 8 years of George W. Bush?

No thanks.

Posted by: JP2 | September 5, 2008 12:53 AM | Report abuse

How many times does one have to hear about McCain's Vietnam experiences?

If McCain really wanted less rancor in the campaign, he would have alerted his campaign staff weeks ago so that the convention would have looked like he was talking about.

Obama's campaign is the model for all future campaigns. Obama is a real leader. McCain was a cheap copy of the real deal.

There are many war heroes out there. However, many who spent more years in a POW camp in Vietnam have spoken to church groups about the experiences in an attempt to recover from them. I know of one such man who experienced as much or more than McCain. This man came home and worked hard and restored his life with his family. He stayed in a POW camp about the longest of anyone. Yet, he did not commit adultery on his wife and divorce her. After all of the grief that the Republicans did to Clinton on a personal matter, they now put a known adulterer out there for us.

The Democrats also showed much restraint in not impeaching Bush and Cheney. If anyone ever did any more to damage the U.S. Constitution in my lifetime than these two, I do not know who they were.

Well, the campaign will now go into high gear. Obama and Biden are very capable individuals. Obama is tough without being sarcastic. His responses will be thoughtful and reasonable. Afterall, when you want to make change, you need to have a following. McCain and Palin seem to be go-it-alone people. Perhaps their small convention gives them hope. We Democrats have to remember that they had a much smaller convention than we did. And remember our finale before 80,000. This is no small feat.

I disagree in part with some previous posts. Michelle, Hillary, Bill, Joe, Barack and a host of others were on message and focused in the Democratic convention. All showed something about the attributes of Democrats: oratory, passion, sincerity, humility, partnership, patriotism, inclusivity, and diversity. We are living in the 21st century. Civilization has advanced to another generation. As civilization advances, it should become more civil. Obama and Biden will lead the way. They showed how it can be done in the Democratic convention. They criticized without ridiculing, they suggested without sarcasm, they shared the credits without respect of party affiliation, they were Americans in every sense of the word. They did not need a hurricane to role out the "American first" banner. They were the banner.

Obama-Biden '08
"The Urgency of Now"

Posted by: EarlC | September 5, 2008 12:53 AM | Report abuse

A true American hero who gave more to his country than most. But I am afraid that his time has already come and gone. Bush beat him 8 years ago and is beating him now. He looks tired and wistful. For America to move forward, this generation needs the vision of Obama. It's hard to escapee the dichotomy between McCain saying he wants to reform Washington and McCain choosing the worst of what's wrong with Washington to run his campaign.

Posted by: Dean | September 5, 2008 12:53 AM | Report abuse

Posted by JB: "War hero vs arugula boy? That's a tough one. After all, us bitter folks get confused easily."

That's obvious, based on your stellar grammar. Maybe you should drop one of your guns and pick up a pen or pencil instead.

Posted by: Cale | September 5, 2008 12:53 AM | Report abuse

A solid home run by McCain, not delivered with the same impact as the Barracuda GRAND SLAM of last night, but the game is on baby-- the Republican party is united and energized—we have a whole new campaign on the RIGHT. The radical LEFT is dazed and confused, and in PANIC. The McCain – Palin ticket is now very well differentiated from the Obama – Biden pair by a huge advantage in EXPERIENCE, ACCOMPLISHMENT, CHARACTER, JUDGMENT, COURAGE and INTEGRITY to name a few. The American people have a clear choice to make: buy into the stale leftist politics of the last century as pitched by a lofty idealist, you know, take from the rich and give to the poor, OR vote for REAL CHANGE, believable, palpable CHANGE. The public overwhelmingly disapproves of the do-nothing, self-serving politicians in power—we want to see all of their private jets on eBay—exactly what Palin did in Alaska, we want to happen in Washington NOW! We demand a commitment of service to the American people, not to party, not to ego, not to career. If any team can deliver REAL CHANGE, McCain – Palin can—because they have DEMONSTRATED it—the have built their careers DOING IT!!! Not TALKING about it while making very poor decisions in JUDGMENT as has Barack Obama with his numerous and long questionable relationships from which he now has to distance himself to advance his career. The Republican ticket is to REAL CHANGE as Michael Phelps is to swimming. The Democrat idea of change is the fuzzy road to self discovery of Barack Obama, as aptly worded in Palin’s speech. McCain told us WHAT and HOW they will accomplish change. The McCain – Palin message of REAL CHANGE is BELEIVABLE because bringing CHANGE and CHALENGING THE STATUS QUO is exactly what has defined both of the political careers of McCain and Palin—deeds, measurable, numerous and important. Not just the idea of change. Obama has nothing to demonstrate other than AMBTION, an overblown EGO and radical ideology—maybe a third memoir: The Audacity of Defeat How: my ego and career were crushed by and old white guy and a beauty queen.

Posted by: dandeville | September 5, 2008 12:53 AM | Report abuse

McCain was a vietnamese collaborator who sold out the air force by giving the vietnamese intel about our bombing targets in Vietnam. They moved their artillary adn shot down 60% of our planes forcing the air force to pull back in retreat.

What a lying piece of scum. I can't believe the Pentagon would let this traitor back into the country. Most people would bow their heads down in shame, but good old McLame thinks he's a war hero even though there aren't any war heroes around to vouch for him.

http://www.counterpunch.org/valentine06132008.html


http://newswithviews.com/Devvy/kidd59.htm


Even the Vietnamese came forward a couple of months ago and said he wasn't tortured.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7459946.stm

Posted by: McCain was a traitor to this country | September 5, 2008 12:52 AM | Report abuse

Very sad - halting and strained. He seems willing to allow the right-wing evangelical nutty buddy lot to usurp his candidacy and effectively limit his ability to reach for independents and moderates. And what is the message? - "we screwed up for 8 years, but now we know what to do"? That is supposed to seal the deal? A few sentences about going in the wrong direction, but during those same years, you support that administration 91% of the time? yeeeesh...

Posted by: LABC | September 5, 2008 12:52 AM | Report abuse

Two odd things about the speech: first, it was so policy (and fact)-free, every bit of it except the part about his POW experience could have been given by any candidate of any party for the last 40 years. You really have to work at it to talk that long without actually proposing anything (other than more oil drilling--that was concrete, I suppose). Strange, but I guess I'm old fashioned in thinking that candidates should have ideas. I guess that's what happens when you have to run against your own party platform.

The other odd thing was that the biggest applause line for the people in the convention hall was that we should drill for oil in the gulf. The crowd went bonkers for that, even more than his "culture of life" gesture. Chants of "drill, baby, drill" started up. Massive giveaways for oil companies is what brings down the house? Yikes.

Also, and this may just be me and really has nothing to do with the merits of the candidates, but was anyone else struck by how many people in that audience clearly had had facelifts? Every cutaway that wasn't to a veteran seemed to be to someone who's had their skin stretched a little too tight. Weird. When you add that to the unending sea of white faces (most of them getting up there in years) in that crowd, most of whom seem convinced that they are the only "real Americans", you're left with the impression that this is a party that's lost touch with everything outside its bubble.

Posted by: hh | September 5, 2008 12:52 AM | Report abuse

Well, at least we didn't have to see any pics of Bush and McCain hugging. I don't know -- I'm an Obama supporter who doesn't hate McCain at all. I'd sure have rather had him the last 8 years than Bush. But I think his reason for wanting the Presidency is to even the score for the way he lost the primary to Bush in 2000. And while I think he might have reasonably good intentions, he'd find himself a puppet of the GOP nutty right wing in trying to govern this country - just like he has had to be in this campaign. And heaven help the USA if some right wing crazy person decided to take it upon themselves to eliminate the heartbeat between the Presidency and crazy Sarah Palin. Not a safe choice! Obama/Biden - 2008

Posted by: Too Dangerous | September 5, 2008 12:52 AM | Report abuse

SEN. MCCAIN SPEECH WAS PERFECT!!!!!!

1) His speech was not the exciting CIRCUS SHOW by the Democrats. However, it was about a grown-up giving a speech regarding the general direction he intends to lead America. If he had given too much specifics, we would all be lost in details.

2) Sen. McCain does not need to make exciting rhetorical speech anyway. His life and record speak volumes:


A) His life service to this nation speaks about his love of America.

B) Is he a racist? Take a look at the Indian child he has adopted.

C) Is he an elitist? Look at the poor Indian child he has adopted; look at where he lived for 5 years as a POW.

D) Is he out to destroy America or any group within it? No. He will not destroy a nation or anyone in it after shedding his blood and sweat for them.

C) Is he a bipartisan? Yes. In the Kosovo/Serbian war, he advised Pres. Clinton how to fight and win that war.

Posted by: Mr. Perfect | September 5, 2008 12:51 AM | Report abuse

Donsblog: Nobody said Obama wasn't a great orator or his speechwriter wasn't great at, well, writing speeches. America should question his ability to lead...which he's never done. His career has been one step after another of resuming building. Only one problem with his resume building: its flimsier than Al Gore's environmental credentials or John Edwards' marriage vows. He's never had any work accomplishments to speak of.

His meteoric rise is inspiring and he's extremely likable and bright, but absolutely no substance....just flashy taglines and slogans. Name me one legislative accomplishment in his one term in the Senate. Let me clue you in on the responsibilities of a one term Senator...their pretty limited, even if your name is Barrack Obama.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 12:51 AM | Report abuse

The highlights of that speech were..that is if you watch it back?...Palin's youngest daughter ..literally crying because she really didn't want to be there, the two woman being beaten and stripped by some rowdy drunk security people...that kid yawning because he was as bored as the rest of the free world...and the crowd screaming so he could get the hell off the stage at the end of the speech. That was really funny to me because he really couldn't scream over them. Thank you McCain...you just made Obama the President of the United States of America...Job well done!!!!!

Posted by: rhasheene | September 5, 2008 12:51 AM | Report abuse

I thought McCain's speech was a okay. Though I'm quite tired of hearing about his POW experience, there were some touching moments I have to admit.

However, the rest of the speech lacked substance. It felt devoid of new ideas, energy, or enthusiasm. Also, he has flip flopped on so many issues that I don't really trust him anymore.

Another problem was his appearance--he's bordering on geriatric. This is going to be a issue for him in the general election and it severely highlights the Palin problem.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 12:51 AM | Report abuse

Hurricane McCain came ashore as a (great) depression drenching the airwaves with the same empty rhetoric of the GOP for the last 30 years.

Posted by: Tim F | September 5, 2008 12:48 AM | Report abuse

What an awful spectacle.

Perhaps he should have delivered his speechifyin' from a papier mache Twin Towers mock up. End it with the Palin brood of kids armed with hockey sticks beating down Cowboy Troy dressed in a white robe and turban and a sign reading "Osama Obama."

9-11, POW, 9-11, POW, 9-11, Pow ...er, POW! Fight with me! Fight with me!

And Il Duce Giuliani really outdid himself. Caused millions of Americans to remind themselves: "Oh, yeah, I forgot how batsh*t crazy the GOP really is ..."

Posted by: Awful | September 5, 2008 12:48 AM | Report abuse

I wish McCain had practiced more. He smiles in all the wrong places. He looks lost, befuddled, ...Elmer Fudd comes to mind, with a hint of Mr. McGoo.

Posted by: Oscar | September 5, 2008 12:47 AM | Report abuse

I found his comments about bipartisainship very interesting - I'm absolutely in favor of that. But I also found it very at odds with the last two days of the convention - not just the hits on Obama, but a host of other people as well. In addition, I felt as though I was attacked personally and called unpatriotic, particularly by Rudy Guilliani, because I don't subscribe to the same views as they do on the war. I didn't feel this was at all inclusive and have serious worries about how divided this nation will be in the end.

What does it say about John McCain leading the Republican party when those people at the convention got most excited about Sarah Palin? As another note, I've voted Republican and Democrat since becoming a voter so I pay attention to the polcies, not the party identity when casting a ballot. I have to say, I had very unfavorable feelings about McCain's pick of Sarah Palin when it was first announced and that pick destroyed whatever belief I have in his judgement. She has wide appeal to the Republican base and gave a real attack dog speech - but I didn't hear anything substantive and that underscores my concerns. I want to see her answer questions about the housing crisis, how to deal with the disparities No Child Left Behind, what she thinks needs to be done about a Jobs report that is going to come out tomorrow that will likely be unfavorable. In other words - I want to see her without a prepared text and I want to see her answer some hard questions.

Posted by: Nicole | September 5, 2008 12:47 AM | Report abuse

McCain's Speech: How Did He Do?

It was a very appalling speech. It revealed his inability to accept defeat. McCain disgraced the meaning of maverick to the utmost. It goes to show how low one can actually go and I can only hope that his fellow republicans can forgive him for disgracing such a beautiful country. I have already forgave him. Whomever helped him write this speech needs to be striped of their writing license. McCain appeared to be totally lost in a sea of lies with no focus to return. And for Patlin , it appears that she is being used and abused by the republican party because that’s their nature, using and abusing. Ooops, I forgot to mention that I only watched inserts, I had to much love and respect for my country then to see it disgraced by one whom claimed to be a patriot and one whom claimed to love his country. Last but not least, at least the country sees whom is really on the republican minds, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA. Now that’s what’s up. OBAMA 08! God Bless America!

Posted by: Nisey01 | September 5, 2008 12:46 AM | Report abuse

Change McSame Style:
Bomb, Bomb, Bomb!
Drill, Drill, Drill!

Posted by: Maria, Ohio | September 5, 2008 12:45 AM | Report abuse

Does anyone else find it utteringly amazing, mind numbing and surreal that the republicans are running on a change platform borrowed from Obama to storm their own castle??!! Repub chant...."We suck, We Suck but NOW Were Different." This cranky guy cant even operate the internet to read your opinion. But change is comming......ya right like what more trickle down economics, fear mongoring, politicizing 9/11 and questioning patriotism? Privitizing everything and everything to line the pockets of your friends? Lying repeatedly to the American people, 3 TRILLION in debt and POOF! A new republican party!!!! transformed from the last eight years and catapulted into the future! Yippeee like Slim Pickens riding the bomb trhough the sky in Dr Strangelove. Hello Joe is that you? Mr. McCarthy would be proud. So would David Blaine. Abracadabra!!

Posted by: feastorafamine | September 5, 2008 12:45 AM | Report abuse

Rhasheene, please be polite with your comments. Things bounce back when people talk so dirty or bad about they do not know. McCain and Palin is authentic. I used to be a democrats until yesterday when Sarah palin took the floor and today I am more proud to be a Republican. Rhasheene, did you know McCain mom is 96 years old. She is smarter than you. AND she is younger than you.

Posted by: Earney | September 5, 2008 12:44 AM | Report abuse

Same old lies from the same old man. The guy is the biggest flip flopper on the planet. He is for everything and agaisnt everything depending on who he is talking to at the time.

If people want a draft and more of the same vote for McCain.

Posted by: Scott | September 5, 2008 12:44 AM | Report abuse

I did not bother to watch McBush's speech. After all, he is already a know quantity.

I want to know how many millions watched his speech and Palin's speech compared to those that watched Obama's (some 85 million, I think the final tally was.

Posted by: NMAIF | September 5, 2008 12:44 AM | Report abuse

McCain started with a very conservative voting record and has shifted to the extreme righ from there. So I wonder what "reaching across the aisles" means. Is he really ready to compromise on issues with the Democrats? Somehow I don't believe he is, especially after brining Palin on board.

Posted by: DonsBlog | September 5, 2008 12:44 AM | Report abuse

Compare the two conventions:

DNC
Mon. Ted Kennedy and Michell Obama
Tue. Hillary
Wed. Bill and Joe Biden

How will Obama top these great speeches?
Thu. Obama delivers a top-notch speech

RNC
Mon. Hurricane Gustav
Tue. Grandpa Fred gurgles into the mike
Wed. Romney says librul librul librul, Giuliani shows his usual classlessness, and Sarah Palin wows the base while p!ssing everybody else off
Thu. McCain puts everybody to sleep with a bland speech about bipartisan reform

For one night the RNC had energy: Wednesday. It was mostly negative energy but it created momentum. But then it flopped on Thursday.

For the Dems, each night built on the last. The best was at the end.

Posted by: Elrod | September 5, 2008 12:44 AM | Report abuse

Forgot to mention how Obama fought to make sure the votes of the people from Florida and Michigan were not recognized to keep his opponent abay. I hope that one bites him in the ass good.

Posted by: Anthony | September 5, 2008 12:44 AM | Report abuse

Actually, I liked the speech. I though he hid his early dementia well. I thought he said all the right words about jobs and partisanship etc. I thought it gave people who are unhappy with him permission to vote for him because they can pretend he will change things.

The Republicans are masters at getting people to vote against their best interests by filling the campaigns with false issues. I thought his words gave people hope that maybe finally they could vote for this one repub who wouldn't work against their best interests. So they can listen to sweet words of hope while the RNC knifes them in the back...again.

Posted by: patriot | September 5, 2008 12:43 AM | Report abuse

Absolutely brilliant speech. His sincerity, his message, his commitment all came through crystal clear. He has always been somewhat of an enigma to this conservative, but I'm convinced. He's the genuine article and I'm ready to fight for this ticket!

Posted by: davido22 | September 5, 2008 12:43 AM | Report abuse

I didn't watch all of McCain's speech, but I watched enough to know he lost any remaining hope of winning in November. America will be a better place when he is gone. Senator Obama will be a superb President.

Posted by: David S. Robins | September 5, 2008 12:43 AM | Report abuse

Keating Five!

Posted by: Hugh Briss | September 5, 2008 12:43 AM | Report abuse

Ugh.....the yellow teeth....the gruesome smile...John McCain is a dentist's nightmare and a dead man running to be the leader of the free world. Palin looks like she would be better off at pushing McCain around in a wheel chair...to the Jerry Springer show with the rest of her dysfunctional family.. since McCain's wife can't do it ...and that's because she is so old that if you shake her hand it just might fall off..as a matter of fact ...I think it almost did.
Is this what the republican party has come down to? What a rediculous joke!!!!!


I agree...what a mess!!!!

Posted by: Mable | September 5, 2008 12:42 AM | Report abuse

according to "experts" you can tell how your speech went over by the negative responses of your opponents. shows mccain did great !! the reason obama does badly with voters over 50 ?? cause we've heard his kind of bs for years.
we know it when we hear it. being from chicago i've watched obama for years. he's a product of chicago and illinois democratic politics. our democratic governor has an 8% not an 80% approval rating. as our senator and the leading democrat has obama tried to help his state ? or the deadlock in his state party. NADA he's just run for president and you believe he's gonna fix the usa... i know he wouldn't

Posted by: clr | September 5, 2008 12:42 AM | Report abuse

He did well. Very emotional conclusion. But it's tough to make a speech where you concede that your party must "recover the people's trust." It's tough to ask Americans to trust that, this time, you really mean it.

I still remember GWB promising us a "humble" foreign policy. Sigh.

Posted by: drossless | September 5, 2008 12:41 AM | Report abuse

McCain said in his speech that he will end the "partisan rancor."

Give me a break. This is the guy who said he would do this earlier in the year and then made up all kinds of lying, deceitful, partisan, rancorous commercials about Barack Obama earlier this summer.

Hitler said to tell the most outrageous, inconceivable lies possible and your enemies would believe them. This is the Republican playbook. This is all they do. Lie and distort.

McCain talks about bring big change in energy. But here's the facts.

He talks about drilling. It will take 10 years from the time we drill to get a drop of it. All the experts say that when the drops start coming out, it will lower gas prices by 2 cents.

Meanwhile, McCain and his new henchwoman don't support the real reforms in energy that are required to make us energy independent because they are bought by the oil companies.

Bush talked about being an "environmental" president. He called his plan "Clear Skies." They totally unravelled our environmental laws and have made us and our kids unsafe. Cynical. Lying. Deceitful.

McCain is not a Maverick.
He's a liar and deceiver.
He said in his memoirs that in 2000 he didn't run for some higher purpose but just for his own ego.

Now that's a drop of truth that can make a difference in this election.

Posted by: MNobserver | September 5, 2008 12:41 AM | Report abuse

So WilieD, you're saying that neither party can protect us. It happened under Clinton's and Bush's watch. So why should we be persuaded that the Republicans can do better? The new mantra seems to be "we'll get it right the second or third time around."

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 12:40 AM | Report abuse

Obama true to who he is? Maybe so, do what it takes to get elected. Claims to be an agent of change, yet goes to Kennedy, Kerry and Biden. Does not want to make this an election of personal attacks, yet, gives uses a line from a Hollywood script to challenge McCain, belittles Palin for being a small town mayor. Made sure his thugs called Bill Clinton a racist, that they smear the 17-year old daughter of Palin and criticize his opponent on judgment. Obama is true to himself and only himself. Not to this country.

Posted by: Anthony | September 5, 2008 12:40 AM | Report abuse

Anybody else notice the Dow has gone down, what, over 500 points since the Republican Convention began? Over 300 points today alone--the day after Palin's speech.

Think the financial community is nervous about a McCain presidency's economic implications?

Posted by: tellthetruth | September 5, 2008 12:39 AM | Report abuse

Other than his prison story, he was halting and uncomfortable. But the real problem was the message - he's a fighter for change - but only process change: Less earmarks, less "pork barrel spending," naming democrats and independents to his cabinet. Most Americans don't connect with those things. He wants to do nothing about the economy and he wants to continue the war. That's not change - that's more of the same.

Posted by: stpaulsage | September 5, 2008 12:38 AM | Report abuse

McCain failed the state of nevada by sucking special interest prick in DC and now he says he won't fail america, but it's the same ole' rehashed cr4p that he's promising.

He claims washington dc is out of touch, but he's the one voting 90% of the time with Bush and the Washington Elite. There's no change here, just smoke and mirrors. That's about all you can ever expect out of the republicans.

C'mon! If McCain had won in 2000 do you think the neo-cons wouldn't be in power today? Do you think we wouldn't be in this deficit mess and failed war in Iraq?

Of course they would be. And we'd be asking ourselves the same friggin' questions today. Do we want 4 more years of the same tired, worn out, pathologically lying statements from the GOP?

Of Course Not!

Anybody but McCain!

Posted by: you failed first you old windbag | September 5, 2008 12:38 AM | Report abuse

I didn't get a chance to watch the speech. I was too busy consoling my sister-in-law, whose brother was killed on 9/11. He was one of the people who was killed by the impact of the second plane hitting the tower he worked in - you know, the one the Republicans used in super cool slo-mo to score political points tonight.

Posted by: Mellie | September 5, 2008 12:38 AM | Report abuse

patriot blow off. What you don't know is if ANY OTHER PERSON IN OFFICE would have been prepared on that scope and scale either and it was a situation beyond unique. Typical whiny monday morning quarterbacking. Are YOU prepared for every possible catastrophe that could befall you?? Of course not! People in office aren't gods, they're PEOPLE. Open your mind little would you please?

Posted by: non dem | September 5, 2008 12:37 AM | Report abuse

I am just so proud of John McCain's service to his country in Vietnam.

After all, the Vietnamese weren't Caucasian and weren't Christian, so it was his duty to kill as many of them as possible. I just wish McCain could have dropped more bombs on them than he did. They were such a threat to our way of life.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 12:36 AM | Report abuse

McCain will not be able to govern. He does not have Democratic allies, and his own party does not like him. He is stuck in the center (if what he said tonite is even close) without any support.

McCain has also never "run" anything, so we cannot expect large improvements in the government bureaucracy that he is promising (bureaucrats could care less about empty policies). Also, a reformer without experience actually changing an organization as its leader is not likely to succeed. Anyone who has been in charge of a decrepit organization in need of change knows this.

Perhaps he will be successful in reforming Washington politics, but then again, has any President actually been able to deliver on that promise?

Yeah, I don't buy it from the Obamacrats either, but at least they will be able to govern, believe in the government that they lead, don't carry the corruption and egotistical policies that have led to the erosion of democratic and humane ideals (once espoused by this country!).

A choice for McCain is a choice against change, as it cannot happen from a practical standpoint.

Posted by: beut_d | September 5, 2008 12:35 AM | Report abuse

Transparent. McCain's calls for bi-partisanship ring hollow in the face of the malicious and divisive rhetoric orchestrated by his party the last 2 nights. You can't have it both ways. McCain had the temerity to pretend that he was oblivious to the venom and hate that was spewing from the stage wednesday night. The party of change? They've been in power for 8 years. Unopposed for 6. Maverick? Maybe once, but he got that beat out of him 8 years ago in South Carolina. He's since hired the dogs that destroyed him to lead his disingenuous attacks. He attached himself to Bush. He intends to pursue policies identical to the Bush economc plan. He pretends to be an outsider, but he is from an imminently connected family. The son and grandson of Admirals. His father the Naval Political Liason to Congress. He was raised in DC - attended Episcopal. And Palin. Let's be real, a photo op and a true lightweight. A truly cynical choice. Her test is now to come. Aother member of the executive who didn't have a passport until 2 years ago. A very turbulent, very brief career with a huge amount of unanswered questions. Wildly right of center on "values" issues. Reckless disregard for the concept of economic regulation. Foe of environmental concerns, alternative energies. Her hypocrisy on the reform and small government issues is astounding. Alaska is the unchallenged king of federal pork. Her 27 million dollars in federal aid for her town of 8200 people comes out to something like 350$ a person. She supported the "Bridge to Nowhere" before she flopped on it. She took the money anyway. A Special Prosecuter has already been appointed by her Republican legislature to investigate official misconduct during her 20 month tenure. Let's see what else comes out. Let's see her in the debate and let's see her deal with the press. Be skeptical.

Posted by: jammasterk | September 5, 2008 12:34 AM | Report abuse


"How many skyscrapers crumbled under Bill Clinton? I keep forgetting."

- The U.S. embassy in Nairobi, Kenya (212 dead).

- The U.S. embassy in Dar es Salaam,Tanzania (11 dead).

- The Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City (168 dead).

- And then there was the Ryder truck with 1,500 pounds of explosives that detonated in the underground garage of the North Tower of the World Trade Center (six dead). It didn't bring the building down, but some reports say it was a close thing.

If your memory is that faulty, you're too short to vote.

Posted by: WylieD | September 5, 2008 12:34 AM | Report abuse

I am an independent who really liked McCain.

At the beginning of the election cycle was hoping for McCain and Hillary contest and was dreading the agony of picking one of them.

Hillary went negative and Obama came along. Choose Obama over Hillary.

Hate to see what McCain has become.

Had enough of Republican compassion, fiscal conservationism and personal responsibility - they have been exhibiting last 8 years.

Now McCain is proposing more of the same. How the hell are they going to pay for all the wars they want to continue ? What about health care ?

Only decent thing I heard I like to night was his idea on Educational choice. The tone was decent but then the campaign conduct till date has been anything but...

How do I trust him now that he has signed up lock, stock and barrel for the religious agenda ?

Posted by: Jason | September 5, 2008 12:34 AM | Report abuse

I felt a bit sorry for him as he stumbled over his words, and at times stared blankly into the camera. It was as if he wasn't sure where he was at.


Posted by: Nope | September 5, 2008 12:33 AM | Report abuse

Terrible! But, you have to feel some sympathy for the old guy.

Posted by: TJ in Utah | September 5, 2008 12:33 AM | Report abuse

McCain said, "Change is coming." Yes, more change to his campaign strategy. It seems like every week he has a new theme, a new message, a new idea. "Leadership you can believe in" and then "Reform" and then "experience matters" until he picked Palin and now "Issues don't matter" and then "Country First" and then Palin herself... I don't think even McCain knows what he'd do if he actually got elected.

Posted by: CarlinFan | September 5, 2008 12:33 AM | Report abuse

I was very interested in hearing McCain's speech tonight. I have watched or listened to almost all of both conventions this year. I was disappointed in not hearing more substance from McCain, more details, if not specifics. I realize it was an acceptance speech but still hoped to hear a bit more substance. While I thought Palin spoke well and I understand the VP takes on the role of attacking the opposition, her attacks framed in sarcasm were eerily viscious. I haven't been persuaded these are the people I want to lead my country.

I was surprised and pleased to see a woman selected as VP candidate. Whether or not Palin is the best choice remains to be seen. It will, I believe, be an interesting campaign. I just hope I can take the blood and guts. I may have to tune them all out if it gets too bad. That is my choice - although I'd prefer to stay involved. Sometimes, though, there's almost a PTSD effect like watching a particularly violent movie.

I want hope, substance and real potential for change. Can it be done? Guess we'll find out.

Posted by: Siri | September 5, 2008 12:32 AM | Report abuse

nondem, better stop on the Katrina stuff.

What we learned from Katrina was that while Bush and his minions were telling us to be afraid and crowing about how safe they were going to make us, it turns out that they had never made any plans to evacuate our major cities in the event of a dirty bomb. Never computer modeled it. Never arranged for drivers and gasoline credit cards for all those buses, never arranged a place where they could drive to and disgorge 100,000 people in desperate need of food, water, toilets and shelter, never built a stockpile of water and canned rations that could be flown in and dropped by helicopter. But they were the only ones who could keep us safe.

Posted by: patriot | September 5, 2008 12:32 AM | Report abuse

Honestly I fell asleep but I had a long day.
I do feel sorry for him though, he's between an Alaskan boulder and a hard place.

Posted by: Sasha | September 5, 2008 12:32 AM | Report abuse

Ugh.....the yellow teeth....the gruesome smile...John McCain is a dentist's nightmare and a dead man running to be the leader of the free world. Palin looks like she would be better off at pushing McCain around in a wheel chair...to the Jerry Springer show with the rest of her dysfunctional family.. since McCain's wife can't do it ...and that's because she is so old that if you shake her hand it just might fall off..as a matter of fact ...I think it almost did.
Is this what the republican party has come down to? What a rediculous joke!!!!!

Posted by: rhasheene | September 5, 2008 12:32 AM | Report abuse

John from Indiana we know! But by tomorrow our people will drown out the truth. Sucks don't it. We want Obama to win it is his time not some old dude!

Posted by: Obama08 | September 5, 2008 12:31 AM | Report abuse

Non-dem, if you dont recall, Clintons advisors, and Cia directors who were in popsition while BC was in office gave the Actionable intelligence to G>Bush and cabinet, and they ignored it.BUSH COULD HAVE STOPPED 9/11, but his cabinet was too arrogant to beleive any intelligence from a "democratic" run intelligence agency.Condi all but said "we had enough information to make serious chinks in their armour, but we missed the boat"

Posted by: bill | September 5, 2008 12:31 AM | Report abuse

How wonderful to read the anti-Palin comments from the howling democrats. Keep it up. There weren't many ways you could lose this election, but you found a way.

Posted by: VLCole | September 5, 2008 12:30 AM | Report abuse

"But if the question is who gave the best speech of the 2008 convention season, Bill Clinton wins it walking away."

You know, now that you mention it, I agree. Before Bill spoke, I was hating him, and expecting him to get a little rambly or self-absorbed. But his speech was just extremely effective, showing a real mastery. My reaction was like, darn, Obama -- you're good at speeches, but you can still learn a lot from this guy.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 12:30 AM | Report abuse

We have two men asking to be our president right now. One has stayed true to himself despite all the pressure. The other really hasn't.

Obama said at the outset that he wanted a civil campaign on the issues. He said he would avoid the politics of person destruction. He demanded a cool, no drama organization -- much like himself. He organized a strong team. Set clear goals. Adopted a sound plan and stuck to it. Reasoned, careful. Solid judgment. And in the intense glare of things like Wright and flags pins, he stuck to it all. Above all, Obama really has stayed true to who he is.

McCain on the other hand,despite his calls for a civil campaign, injected personal attacks. He cozied up to the same religious extremist he once decried. People like Hagen. And when that wasn't enough, he brought onto the ticket a evangelical with extreme views on abortion, contraception and sex education -- positions far to the right of his own beliefs. He brought on a woman that asked for and cheered for earmarks that McCain himself rejected. McCain abandoned his former tough positions on climate change, taxes and immigration. And finally, he hired the same polarizing, no-holds-barred political assassins that George Bush unleashed on America and McCain himself. Senator McCain didn't stay true to himself. He morphed into right-wing, polarizing ideologue. And why? As the New York Times noted in a recent article, he's ambivalent about his ambitious, but often he'll loose sight of his values and overreach for the sake of those ambitious. In other words, McCain falls victim to the allure of power and looses his good judgment. He doesn't stay true to himself.

I dearly hope American's will come to appreciate this about these two men. One has stayed true to the better angels of his nature. One succumbed to the darker angels of his. Which one would make a better president?

Posted by: wappinne | September 5, 2008 12:30 AM | Report abuse

Hello this is Life Alert how may I help you? "My name is John McCain I've fallen and I can't get up oh yeah did you know I was a POW too?"

Obama bin Biden in 2008

Posted by: Life Alert | September 5, 2008 12:28 AM | Report abuse

Horrible. Incoherent. Embarrassing. Boring. At the end, McCain goes bats**t crazy screaming like a loon.
ps He was a POW.
Obama has no scars.

Posted by: mimi | September 5, 2008 12:27 AM | Report abuse

too boring.
too few real policy initiatives.
too much of the same old junk.

I'd give it a B- or C+ -- mostly because his personal history was strong, but we need more than a prisoner of war for a president.

Posted by: John C | September 5, 2008 12:27 AM | Report abuse

Gee that was really bad. He kept repeating the same thing over and over again. I will fight for you, country first not myself,I will defend, I put my country first, I will fight, defend, country first. I haven't had a drink in almost 5 years but I think I was in a black out.

Posted by: Andrea | September 5, 2008 12:25 AM | Report abuse

I don't see how McCain can say with a straight face that he's the one that will change Washington. He's been there for 26 years and what has he done? If our energy policy is so lacking (which it is), he could have led a drive to improve it. It's a little late to make ambitious plans now.
I think the American people will see through these tired phrases and empty promises.

Posted by: Ann Strosnider | September 5, 2008 12:25 AM | Report abuse


McBush -- beat the war drums, clasp the prayer beads, and back we go to the imperialist 18th century.

Let's move into the 21st century and re-join the spirit of the progressive world.

tell your friends to vote.... we can do better.

Posted by: upwards | September 5, 2008 12:24 AM | Report abuse

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

McCain's speech was so muddled it didn't play to anyone: not the delegates, not the women voters, not the independents.

One minute McCain bashes the republican party for the failures of the last 8 years, then tosses out standard republican policy in the next minute: cut taxes, expand free trade; fight unions; dill; and reduce government.

Free trade is a real issue with many democrats and independents as free trade put thousands of us out of work. Further, McCain's crack about fighting "big union bosses" doesn't set well with us blue collar folk. As union members, fighting the unions bosses is the same as fighting us directly.

Equal pay, healthcare, education, and the environment are real issues for women. McCain's line about education being the "civil rights" issue of today is out of Bush's mouth. We see the failure of the Bush administration on education, so we are not inclined to support someone who quotes Bush on education. Equal pay was not mentioned at all. Healthcare and the environment received mere mentions.

One thing is clear, McCain intends to continue the war in Iraq--he even asked our young people to join the military. Guns were glorified both as a weapon of war, and a weapon to kill animals for sport. Again, not a particularly appealing subject for most women.

McCain seemed more interested and animated as he recounted his war experiences. McCain talked so much about his war experiences and the past, it seemed as if he has a score to settle on the battlefield. He seems consumed with the past.

In the end, it wasn't clear where McCain stood on any of the issues.

Posted by: socalgal | September 5, 2008 12:24 AM | Report abuse

The vitriol from the Dems on this blog confirms what a stellar job McCain did tonight. Admit it -- you're afraid and disappointed and yet you still know that McCain is the Republican you've wanted in the White House all along. Well, come November, you'll have him. Much rejoicing!

Posted by: John from Indiana | September 5, 2008 12:23 AM | Report abuse

If John McCain had not got shot down in Vietnam I am wondering what he would be running on?

He is too old, too without ideas, too out of touch. period. I don't think he is as dislikable as his campaign is going to be but he has nothing to offer except the same old thing the Republicans have been peddling for a decade or two.

I have been a swing voter most of my life but this is a terrible ticket and one I won't be choosing come November. I don't know if Obama can do all the things he hopes to do in a world where the system works against almost anything useful but at least he gets how bad things are and gets what life is like for most of us.

Posted by: Ann | September 5, 2008 12:23 AM | Report abuse

Like a lot of people, I dislike his invocation of the POW card. His experience as a POW does not automatically entitle him to become President.

I have an great-uncle who was shot down in World War II - and he never talks about it. His airplane was shot out of the sky and he was in a field in the Netherlands for 3 days before a German Patrol finally found him - with two broken legs. He was the only member of his crew that survived.

He ended up in a German Prisoner of War Camp and was released in 1945.

The only person to whom he talked about the experience was his brother (who was the 3rd oldest) and who also served in the Army during WWII. I learned the story from this great-uncle while dealing with my great-grandmother's Income Taxes back in 1986-87 (He had Power of Attorney as my great-grandmother was 99-100 years old).

My Great-uncle would never invoke the POW card as a positive for elected office - much less the presidency.

He has had many accomplishments since his POW status and he has succeeded admirably, rising to become a VP of a large resource company.

But for my uncle - being a POW - is not a qualification for the highest office in the land.

Posted by: IBM455 | September 5, 2008 12:23 AM | Report abuse

The only people who have benefited from the last 8 years of Republican rule are Big Oil, the hyper-wealthy (like the McCains), and the defense contractors.

And those are the only people who will benefit from four more years of Republican rule. If you can't see this you are blind.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 12:22 AM | Report abuse

The only surprise about his speech is, it wasn't much of a surprise.Oh, wait, that would be exactly what you would expect, more of the same NO ANSWER McCain, NO MESSAGE McCain, NO REALITY McCain,.What a Joke.
His constant pandering about his GOOD OLD DAYS in Viet Nam, as he keeps re-inventing it, seems a little more sad , and a little more humbling every time he spills it.The Man crashed his plane (not shot down as previously expressed )was busted up, and then beat up for being on the wrong side.Its a shame anyone had to go through it, ever, but it was his choice to go there, it was his decision to get the "Action", and he got beat down.Were all sorry and sad about any service man or woman having to deal with these things, but it happens.And until you decided to run for office , again, you started beating your own drum.

GET OVER IT! Your frickin alive, with more money than most people on this planet will ever see, and your a free man.GET OVER IT!!
Can i say, GET OVER IT as many times as he spews his own "War wounds "Story??Or imbellish even more or different stories about the same crap every single time he's in front of a mic. Wait, i know, Why dont we all BUY HIM a t-shirt, get "I survived Viet Nam, and all i got was this lousy T-shirt" printed on the front, so he can wear it wherever he goes.The straight talk express must be a phonograph, and its skipping, over and over.

Posted by: Bill | September 5, 2008 12:22 AM | Report abuse

a devoted Republican until Sara Palin! She was just nasty and will be eaten alive, not to mention maybe imprisoned for abuse of power, do we really want her in the Whitehouse?

Posted by: Karen M | September 5, 2008 12:21 AM | Report abuse

How many Americans and innocent civilians in oil rich countries died from that? And Bush was warned. A CIA agent went out to his cowboy shack and told him what was going down and Bush told him that he'd covered his a$$, so don't tell me republicans have the copyright on security.

Posted by: WPE | September 5, 2008 12:20 AM | Report abuse

If this country sends a Republican president back to Washington after this past eight years of failure, the country deserves whatever fate awaits it. To accept this Republican B.S. is suicidal.

Posted by: majorteddy | September 5, 2008 12:20 AM | Report abuse


The speech gets a C+. Not good but far better than Bush.

But if the question is who gave the best speech of the 2008 convention season, Bill Clinton wins it walking away. Even Obama could learn a lot from him.

Posted by: WylieD | September 5, 2008 12:20 AM | Report abuse

Yes Lynn, Katrina is the fault of the Republicans. Absolutely, that sounds intelligent. Fact is, whoever was in office would likely have had a difficult time with Katrina - but of course, that would be too open-minded a point of view for you to embrace.

Posted by: non dem | September 5, 2008 12:19 AM | Report abuse

There's a sucker born every minute, and most of them vote Republican.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 12:18 AM | Report abuse

Great job McCain. I thought he was stunning and appealing up there. Some of what he was saying, sounded rather nice!

Fighting for America (with Respect to his service in the military but apart from that specific experience), I still have issues with his stances to do it, in office. It wouldn't be so bad if he had Obama's stances, but also working across the isle.

I couldn't believe the audience applauded when he repeated his Iraq calls for more troops, given unwarranted circumstances. Talk about "common sense" and a conscience for those significant human beings out there performing such sacrificial service. I acknowledge that the "successful" should enjoy the fruits of their work, but I also believe that the other portions of America, the laborers should enjoy (for all of their hard work) fairly and due distributed fruits for their labor as well. Is it too much to ask for some balance around here? I think it is ridiculous to have to worry about where your child will attend school (if you're thinking outside of home schooling), when every open school across this nation should be of equal, high quality education and not distributed or concentrated for the most wealthy and priveleged. I feel the same way with health care. Why is that so much to ask for some balance, I do not understand.

I enjoyed his performance though. I thought he delivered for all of those who agree with him. I enjoyed watching, really. I thought he looked great. I'll give him that much.

Posted by: Obama2008 | September 5, 2008 12:18 AM | Report abuse

Nondem, the attack was on Bush's watch. Remember, Bin Laden will attack, and Condi thought it was meaningless.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 12:18 AM | Report abuse

A republican denouncing his own party! McCain's speech was so inconsistent that I don't believe that he even believes what he just said. In 53 minutes he managed to say that the current administration of which he is a part and voted with over 90% of the time, is a failure. That speech was a failure and is a prelude to his failing campaign.

Posted by: brad | September 5, 2008 12:18 AM | Report abuse

WPE - they were too busy planning a masterful terrorist while old Bill was in office because he was too busy under his desk to pay attention to anything going on outside of it. Remember?!? Of course you don't!!

Nice try.

Posted by: non dem | September 5, 2008 12:17 AM | Report abuse

None of this matters. Next weeks National Enquirer will do to SARAH PALIN what they did to JOHN EDWARDS

Lights out Sarah!


Posted by: bob | September 5, 2008 12:17 AM | Report abuse

I think McCain is an honorable man, despite his "hiccups" along the way (Keating). But I fundamentally disagree with the direction I believe he would take this country as well as how he has run his campaign. I was pleased, though, that he wasn't as nasty as Palin was last night.

Posted by: ACM2 | September 5, 2008 12:17 AM | Report abuse

yes, nonDem, the repubs always say they'll learn the 2nd time around. Like Katrina? Oh, Oh....maybe we should act on this?

Posted by: lynn | September 5, 2008 12:16 AM | Report abuse

Obama is a demagogue, i'm sorry. Though I suppose anything is possible when you increase the government; socialists.

Remember Americans, the states created the federal government not the other way around. Granted, it was inevitable to create a stronger federal government, though an all powerful one was not favorable.


McCain/Palin '08

Posted by: John B. | September 5, 2008 12:16 AM | Report abuse

Pastor123 wrote: "But I am still struggling with all these questions about scandal and her daughters boy friend seems like a little thug.?"

You are free to struggle with what you choose, but I'm curious why you seem less worried about book banning, an apparent eagerness to rachet up the bitterly divisive politics in Washington, deprivation of free speech of local officials, and comments about God calling us to the war in Iraq. Dare I suggest it is more important that we learn her views on the Constitution, warrantless spying, torture, and unjust war than that we hear more about her daughter's boyfried?

The kids and the scandal? Right wing conservatism is a bar which other people must live up to - the people in your family are allowed to make mistakes. (My cousin the preacher was violently anti-gay sinners as abominations of Christ, until his youngest son, truly a family golden child who is kind and sweet and delightful and never gave his parents a moment's pain came out of the closet. Amazing how it changed his tune. )

The scandal? Don't worry it will go away - the prosecutor will either be fired or taken out in the next election.

Posted by: patriot | September 5, 2008 12:15 AM | Report abuse

How many skyscrapers crumbled under Bill Clinton? I keep forgetting.

Posted by: WPE | September 5, 2008 12:15 AM | Report abuse

WPE - I said it wouldn't happen AGAIN on a Republican's watch. Can't you read?? Yet another knee-jerk liberal post.

Posted by: non dem | September 5, 2008 12:15 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Carmen Santiago | September 5, 2008 12:15 AM | Report abuse

Ok speech, bad delivery.

Unforgivable 9/11 'tribute' overshadowed everything for me.

Just sick.

Posted by: melsisson | September 5, 2008 12:14 AM | Report abuse

WPE Obama will use your money wisely. Like for his extravagant convention that was a bust.

Posted by: Good luck | September 5, 2008 12:14 AM | Report abuse

The Left is reeling....McCain-Palin will win, and the charlatan Obama will lose in his journey "of personal discovery" as Palin so eloquently put it.

Then won't it be great to see all the racism come to a boil and the riots ensue.

Posted by: Dan | September 4, 2008 11:30 PM
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Man, that's sick. Take an Adavan and go to bed.

Posted by: tellthetruth | September 5, 2008 12:13 AM | Report abuse

It did happen on a republican's watch, you tool.

Posted by: WPE | September 5, 2008 12:13 AM | Report abuse

Does anyone really think this guy is a maverick?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 12:12 AM | Report abuse

Chris,

Get real...all candidates have there families there. Palin has a 5 month old child...do you really think they are not going to show her kids. It's not like the Obama's kids were in hiding


Posted by: Annapolis | September 5, 2008 12:12 AM | Report abuse

He looked old and small with that backdrop.

He's still trying to push Georgia down our throats--Cheney there today with 10 billion of our hard earned dollars.

He'll start the cold war all over again, then croak, and the pit bull in lipstick will complete the mission--nukes!!

God help us.

Posted by: corky | September 5, 2008 12:12 AM | Report abuse

Uh McCain was of course boring. Lets see, the Whisky Tango Palin. Hmmmmmm, she would be worse. Wow, what experience she has. Her speech was way lame. Hey everyone how about a joke? Did you hear how John McCain balanced out his ticket? He has seven houses, she has seven trailers. Waaka waaka. She is not exciting. She is supposed to be an expert on energy policy? Uh she's a creationist! Creationists believe that the world is less than 30,000 years old! Uh, fossil fuels are a little bit older. I mean for petes sake, I don't think Noah could have fit one, let alone two brontosaurs on that Ark. Its called allegory people. Look into it. But seriously folks. Stop looking for presidents whose intellegence you can relate to...you're uh... not so bright. This is how we got George Bush, mental and moral midget of the century. I know you all are a little envious of a black man that grew up poor and went to Harvard. I suppose for those of you that struggled to get your AA its a little imasculating (what's he saying about AA, I stopped drinking days ago).

Posted by: Whiskytangomustgo | September 5, 2008 12:12 AM | Report abuse

McCain looked confused for most of the speech. Blah blah blah. Big creepy smile. Blah blah blah. Big creepy smile.

Posted by: Jodi | September 5, 2008 12:12 AM | Report abuse

Did anyone else think his frequent winks were just a little disconcerting?

Posted by: Usa42 | September 5, 2008 12:11 AM | Report abuse

John McCain obviously got the message that yesterdays attacks were nothing short of nasty and distastful. He cut back on attacks, but seems he also chopped out any substance from his speech. Where were the issues that affect the everyday americans? Maybe we need a community organizer. McCains speech was full of cliches and rhetoric, and devoid of specific plans to fix, healthcare, the economy, etc.
McCain was also outshined by Palin. Maybe she should be at the top of the ticket since she's writen a budget for her village.

Posted by: Nigel Ryan | September 5, 2008 12:11 AM | Report abuse

The real heroes of VietNam were the ones who refused to go.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 12:11 AM | Report abuse

Palin's speech and the rest of the mean-spirited speeches created the wrong build-up to McCain's speech. It was as if they hadn't coordinated anything. Which I expect they hadn't.

The POW thing was repeated in every speech and the video. Way overdone. Just a reminded there wasn't anything else of substance.

Executive Summary: POW, insult the other party, POW, insult Obama, POW, insult the other party, POW....

Posted by: Tom J | September 5, 2008 12:11 AM | Report abuse

No LYNN you're pathetic. Seen any terrorists around here lately?? NO??? That's because someone stepped up and said "we fight back". It ain't perfect by any stretch of the imagination but just wait - it WILL happen again but it WOULDN'T be on a Republican's watch.

Posted by: non dem | September 5, 2008 12:11 AM | Report abuse

Ehh. An okay, if bland speech.

But I have to ask, where was the Maverick when Bush-Cheney-Rove were driving our country off a cliff?

It's not enough anymore to just talk tough. You had your chance to be an agent of change these past 8 years and you blew it! Why should we give you another chance?

Posted by: Eric | September 5, 2008 12:11 AM | Report abuse

Hope everyone noticed mcSame had no flag pin.

Posted by: bushwacker 1 | September 5, 2008 12:11 AM | Report abuse

This is a guy who leaves his first wife -- after she has waited years for him to come home from war and a prison camp -- because she was disfigured in a car accident and he wanted to marry a young heiress. Not putting his family first that's for sure.

Then, this same guy gets caught up in the Keating Five scandal and suddenly becomes a 'reformer' -- putting his careerist politics first than honor (he should have resigned if he had any decency).

Then, after George W. and his cronies smear him and his family in the lowest form of politics in South Carolina, he not only makes up and kisses their ****** for the next 8 years, but hires the consulting firm that did the smearing to help his vapid VP pick get ready for her speech and new role...putting his ego and drive before family and honor again.

Ever since he came back from his truly noble and terrible ordeal in Vietnam, he's been doing but putting his ego ahead of everything.

No WAY, NO HOW, NO MCCAIN!

Posted by: canyonguy | September 5, 2008 12:10 AM | Report abuse

John McCain's speech had substance...the worst kind. Admitting your party has done a terrible job but offering no evidence that you would be any different. Dropping hints about going to war with Iran. Name dropping god after every point. The speech was mostly filled with a long, poorly read biography.
I'm sorry, McCain supporters must admit he is not great at giving speeches.

Posted by: RC | September 5, 2008 12:10 AM | Report abuse

Ok, so he did suffer in Vietnam. Did he screw up and not use proper evasive procedures when he lost his plane? Did he graduate at the bottom of his class? How can anyone who drops bombs on cities understand what the ground war in Vietnam was all about.

This Vietnam veteran supports Obama/Biden, because we need a change, not more promises by the self-serving GOP.

Voters will remember which party brought them the last eight years - and now they have magically become the party of change???

Posted by: NM Remote | September 5, 2008 12:10 AM | Report abuse


"Thought 'change is coming' was Obama's line."

It was--until Obama became hyper partisan, voted for FISA, got vague on an Iraq pullout date, decided the death penalty is good, and named as his VP a 36-year Washington insider with family ties to lobbyists.

Now Obama's line is "Expediency is here."

Posted by: WylieD | September 5, 2008 12:10 AM | Report abuse

Mary S go tell it to your boss Obama. We know you paid bloggers when we see them. McCain did wonderful and is going to win now. The writing is on the wall. Obama is so panicked he has you guys working overtime.

Posted by: Emily Martinez | September 5, 2008 12:09 AM | Report abuse

Apparently the GOP message this year is this:
Vote for me. I'm a former POW, and I'm nice.

He finally mentioned that the economy is a problem, but basically just endorsed the Bush policies.

I'm sure he'll get some sort of bump, but I don't see the Obama camp sweating this out too much.

Posted by: Jason | September 5, 2008 12:09 AM | Report abuse

We all know them.
The 70, 80 or 90-year-olds who remember WW2, WW1, etc etc etc.
The History Channel interviews them all the time, and look how sharp their memories are!
ABOUT THE WAR.
Undying respect and honor to them, sure.

But you try talking to them about anything else but their war, and suddenly they are 93 or 103 years old again.
OK, it makes sense. The guys were traumatized enough, or at least experienced enough trauma, to have engraved on their souls the indelible memory of that time, and, as any psychiatrist will tell you, people can get stuck in such traumatic memories and not grow mentally any older beyond that point; not MATURE beyond that point.
Sure, logical enough. We listen to their stories with that in mind.

But McCain is running for President of the U.S.A., 2008, for Heaven's sakes.
NOT for manager of an arts and leisure center in Little Rock, 1970.

So can't we just agree, he doesn't get our vote?
I'd gladly buy him a beer, but I am not staking my family's future on THAT gamble.

Posted by: wardropper | September 5, 2008 12:09 AM | Report abuse

War hero vs arugula boy? That's a tough one. After all, us bitter folks get confused easily.

Posted by: JB | September 5, 2008 12:08 AM | Report abuse

Non Dem,

So the choice you're giving me is vote republican or die. You've done it! You have just summed up everything wrong with our electoral process. And I'm going to up my donation to Obama tomorrow by $25 just for you.

Posted by: WPE | September 5, 2008 12:08 AM | Report abuse

I really felt sorry for the families that were used as props for this speech. Yes, I know it's been done since Reagan-- but not so blatantly. These folks clearly did NOT look like they wanted to be on America's TV screens-- Anything but!
I had a similar feeling after Sarah Palin's speech (BTW, her speech was GREAT) but passing around baby Trig afterwards as a "photo op" seemed callous and unnecessary.

Posted by: Chris | September 5, 2008 12:07 AM | Report abuse

NonDem --- that post was pathetic. You think that the democrats are soft on terrorism? Why? How? Bush has CREATED more terrorists and....as usual, we will now have to get back into office and clean up beer boy's mess.
Don't be fooled by the fear.
Wake up laddy!

Posted by: Lynn | September 5, 2008 12:07 AM | Report abuse

Decent speech by McCain. Not much meat...but Obama did not say anything either. Just says it with more Style!

My sense is (from living in Ohio and Michigan for 10 years) is that McCain/Palin is going to play pretty well in those states and that you will see a swing firmly towards McCain. Can't speak for the other states.


Posted by: Annapolis | September 5, 2008 12:06 AM | Report abuse

It was boring, I mean hard to focus boring.

I liked the 2000 John McCain or at least what I knew of him but I'm no fan of the 2008 John McCain.

He looked like the wrong man to lead our nation forward and he looked every day of his 72 years.

What if he doesn't make it through the next four? Sarah Palin running the nation? It will just be the same Republican hacks running things behind the scenes who have screwed things up so badly over the last eight years.

Posted by: Sean | September 5, 2008 12:06 AM | Report abuse

he trashed bush, trashed the gop...he trashed himself : i am a republican, i like mc cain but hate palin ...SHE SHOULD BE IN JAIL !!!!!!!!!!!!!! GO OBAMA

Posted by: bob | September 5, 2008 12:06 AM | Report abuse

I have been a Republican for for 32 years. For the first time I now realize why I'm going to vote Democratic. This was McCain's night to shine and set the tone of his candidacy and the republican party, instead he drove a wedge down the middle. His selection of a Vice President shows the amount of thought he would give to selecting an adminstrative cabinet. This terrifies me and has led me to run to the Democratic party.

Posted by: Mary S | September 5, 2008 12:04 AM | Report abuse

Obama has no argument with McCain anymore. Awesome... I vote for McCain and won't let Obama make me feel guilty also. I'm tired of being affraid of his supporters. I'm not like that. I''m not a thug anymore to fit in with them either. Thank goodness... And I still get change awesome.

Posted by: Mark | September 5, 2008 12:04 AM | Report abuse

To his credit, Senator McCain owned up. He owned up to the Republican corruption and the betrayal of the constituents' trust, on all issues, from the White House through the rubberstamp bi-camerals.

Then he poised once again to say that because he is a POW, he is more patriotic than anyone else, and that through that doorway alone is he able to most honestly and dutifully, truthfully dedicate his life to service to country. Problem: there are other doorways to service, too, just as valid, just as valuable.

Senator McCain offered no substantial differences in the direction he would take this country, and to bypass all circumstantial references to unfortunate green & blue backdrops, he failed to ignite America into a sense that he can lead us--- he can make us stand up and--- not fight; that's Republican macho talk--- but "work"--- that he can make us put in the honest effort and work for a better tomorrow.

That, I feel, is the fundamental difference (outside of all the substantive issues) between their leadership styles; the gasping breadth of the enthusiasm gap. The gap we will see in both popular vote and electoral vote this coming fall.

Posted by: ∂ | September 5, 2008 12:04 AM | Report abuse

So much of McCain's speech seemed off-tempo and forced; His smiles too big and too short-lived and he smiled too much for my taste. Does anyone else find his smiles just the least bit creepy? His promises were way too vague.

Personally, I am concerned that Senator McCain would not survive his first term in the White House, given his history of health problems. Then we would be at the mercy of Sara Barracuda.

I thought his 96 year-old mother looked more spry than himself..

Posted by: Wallabee | September 5, 2008 12:04 AM | Report abuse

It's funny how about 99.9% of the posters in here probably couldn't stand up and do what these candidates do speaking, campaigning, always remaining poised and focused and just doing the best they can to. Wah wah wah that's all dems know how to do is whine and criticize. Just watch - when Obama wins and terrorists start blowing us up all over the place the Dems will have to raise taxes to pay for all the clean-up and "relocation" that the whiny liberal welfare recipients and tree huggers will demand.

Posted by: non dem | September 5, 2008 12:03 AM | Report abuse

Said he never tolerated corruption, does the Keating five ring a bell? Said people need to serve this country, but your running mate said Community service was horrible? Said he'll fix Washington, you've had twenty six years, what's taking so long. He's a POW, who knew, he's never metioned it before?

Posted by: Sue F | September 5, 2008 12:03 AM | Report abuse


"McCain must have turrets syndrome,"

No, he was in the Navy, not the Army.

Or maybe you mean Tourette syndrome.

Why stop there? Maybe McCain is a retard. A spaz. Rides the short bus.

Another ignorant Obama supporter heard from.

Posted by: WylieD | September 5, 2008 12:02 AM | Report abuse

if he had a dj name it would be dj downbeat grumpy, his records would all be scratched in single boring beats and no one dances (or we wish they wouldn't). worse, we have to try to ignore this tune for many more weeks, and sometimes She-Who-Sticks-Pins-In-State-Trooper-Dolls will sometimes do the gig. eek, delete!

Posted by: preAmerikkkan | September 5, 2008 12:02 AM | Report abuse

If I had 1 hour left to live, I'd want it to be during a John McCain speech ... because that speech seemed to drag on forever! Good lord, that was boring!!

Posted by: Seth | September 5, 2008 12:01 AM | Report abuse

His entreaty to overcome bitter partisanship in Washington might actually have worked had he not unleashed his bitterly divisive partisian VP on the nation yesterday. Are we supposed to believe what he says, or what he does?

Posted by: patriot | September 5, 2008 12:01 AM | Report abuse

Did nobody notice that he forgot the name of his vice presidential candidate? Tomorrow's comedy line: he vetted her so thoroughly he could not remember her name.

The main substantive issue was no mention of how he can improve the economy other than cut taxes and drill. Other stylistic flaws: another ugly green backdrop for the first part of the speech and his signature forced smile that took all the sincerity away from some of his best lines. The main thing was that I really expected more on the economy and it just wasn't there.

Posted by: Jeff | September 5, 2008 12:00 AM | Report abuse

Did somebody die right before his speech? Wow--the crowd looked dazed, almost traumatized. When people stood up, there was no conviction. Clapping was half-hearted, until he rolled out the POW story that his video, and every single speaker rolled out. The words were actually not bad but the delivery and the lack of red meat spelled doom.

Palin's peaked. Great speech for the hall, we'll see about independents, but heaven help her if she has to think on her feet about a question. The earmark queen's full picture, now that we're past the ridiculous baby-gate, will settle into the air, and anyone who's not on the far right isn't going to be sucked in. This was their best shot, and it will be sliding down from here.

Posted by: Thoughts? | September 5, 2008 12:00 AM | Report abuse

A bit confused. Thought 'change is coming' was Obama's line. Have they changed the meaning of 'conservative' as well?

Posted by: Maria | September 5, 2008 12:00 AM | Report abuse

I missed the RNC convention tonight, but read somewhere that they showed a video with the twin towers being hit by the plane, in slo-mo?? I have trouble believing that. Is it true? Did they really politicize 9-11 deaths like that?

If so, the Republican party has seriously lost its way.

Posted by: Beth in VA | September 5, 2008 12:00 AM | Report abuse

Was he joking when he said he wanted to move past partisan rancor? That was a joke, right? Because he was there last night, too, right? When the Pitbull with Lipstick sneered her way through her speech and made all those petty, snotty remarks about Obama and libruls?

So the message I got tonight was "9/11 was sad, the Iraq war worked out great, POW, POW, POW, Sarah Palin is great and I know you all like her more than you like me, POW, let's fire some teachers, I promise to go to DC and kick out those darn Republicans I've somehow found myself in the midst of lo these 28 years, POW."

I donated to Obama's campaign after Palin's speech last night. I donated after Lindsey Graham's tonight.

And the best pundit moment was when Tom Ridge was asked how McCain is different than Bush, and Ridge said, no kidding, "Well, John Bush..."

Posted by: BlueDog1 | September 4, 2008 11:59 PM | Report abuse

This speech did not come anywhere close to doing what it needed to do. McCain simply talked about HIMSELF for an hour! His remembrances from WWII through Viet Nam until now. Then he ended with a rather creepy tantrum, screaming "fight, fight, fight, errrr!"

Sure, he wants peace. Yeah, I believe that.

Posted by: P | September 4, 2008 11:59 PM | Report abuse

"I'm confused, what did he say he was going to do for us? Didn't hear a thing about Medical care, Care for the Veterans, Seniors? What is he going to do for Social Security? Boy I don;t know who to choose. Maybe Sarah would make a better President then either of our choices

Posted by: Chiefmac | September 4, 2008 11:45 PM "

*********************

I believe he may have asked you what you are going to do for your country. You know, like JFK.

But since you can't spell or hear, apparently, perhaps you should just stay home.

Posted by: Chicago1 | September 4, 2008 11:59 PM | Report abuse

McCain 'Reclaiming' the mantle of CHANGE - HE NEVER HAD IT IN THE FIRST PLACE. McCain only used the CHANGE line once he saw the power of it in Obama's campaign. Don't be fooled, 30 years in Washington ... McCain is as political as it gets, his CHANGE is an afterthought, just like his VP pick.

Posted by: Lorrainev | September 4, 2008 11:59 PM | Report abuse

McCain has still not outlined what programs he plans to pursue. Nobody accomplishes anything as President unless they have an outline of what they will get done in the first year or two, before the next campaign starts. What point is there is saying you are going to work across the aisle if you don't say what for.

Given his lack of an expressed plan, or the lack of any vison ala Pappy Bush, one has to look at the Party platform. The writers of the Platform and Phyliss Shaffley have said on NPR they WILL make McCain follow the Platform which means he plans a very very Conservative agenda, much more so than any republican President before him. Where is the media attention to shift tothe Extreme Right?

Posted by: atp2007 | September 4, 2008 11:59 PM | Report abuse

I wont fail you
cue fake tiny smile

I believe in a market where gas will cost you 11$ a gallon

Cue big amile

Posted by: pvogel88 | September 4, 2008 11:58 PM | Report abuse

Bad speech with flat boring delivery and nothing at all new in content. McWhine is a tired old egomaniac. He looks like he needs a hug from someone other than plastic Cindy. The POW and patriotism cards are overplayed and frankly insulting to anyone with an IQ over 50.

When will the GOP define what "winning in Iraq" means??!! Iraq was an invasion not a war, and Sadam was overthrown 5+ years ago. The whole thing was a lie, Bush and company (including and fully supported by McWhine) commited crimes against the American people by selling a "threat" that did not exist. Thousands of Americans died and trillions were spent to satisfy the egos of the incompetent, arrogant Republican regime. So here they go again running on "patriotism". Try a little "straight talk" first about why Iraq?

Posted by: RockvilleRetro | September 4, 2008 11:58 PM | Report abuse

It seems like McCain has forgotten that it was the inept Republican leaders of his party that got America into it's current mess with all his Obama-like talk of changing our country's direction and fighting to take it back from the entrenched establishment (ahhem, I think that's you, Mr. McCain).

When Mr. McCain was urging all Americans to fight for the future of our country, I wondered if he was aware of the small army of millions already doing this very thing. They are called Obama contributors, supporters, volunteers, and organizers.

Posted by: VAreader | September 4, 2008 11:58 PM | Report abuse

BORING!!!!!
Um.....really? that's it?
Where were the specifics? Other than "you're on your own" and...um..."join the army".

Posted by: Lynn | September 4, 2008 11:57 PM | Report abuse

At least he admitted he was taking something from Obama, he just didn't admit it was the whole idea of change. For months McCain's "straight talk express" has used smears and ugly accusations tantamount even to treason to paint Obama.

Realizing his "vehicle" was more a train wreck than a train, McCain switched his entire message to a pale convolution of Obama's. What amazes me is that there are so many people too dense to see his hypocrisy.

And excuse me but I learned at my mother's knee that self praise is no praise. His service in Vietnam was too outstanding to be turned, along with the service of so many other veterans who have suffered and died for this country, into a yada yada.

I am sick to death of John McCain patting himself on the back and saying he always puts country first.

He said "To hell with the country" when he chose Palin without vetting her just to increase his chances. The fact that the dirty dozen who run his campaign are putting up roadblocks to the investigation into Palin's abuse of power renders this even more horrendous.

That serpentine smile he flashes to punctuate the most serious statements gives me chills.

Posted by: chloe | September 4, 2008 11:57 PM | Report abuse

As an independent former McCain supporter I honestly found this speech painful to listen to. Aside from the tired rhetoric and poor delivery, the crowd honestly seemed bored. It appears that Sen. McCain, a good and heroic individual, is simply disliked by his party. The enthusiasm for ultra-right Gov. Palin was far greater than that for McCain. Seems like the culture wars are upon us. Well, at least now I know for whom I will be voting.

Posted by: Mike | September 4, 2008 11:57 PM | Report abuse

This was by far the worst speech I have ever heard. He made no connection with any points nor did he present any platform issues. How does a Republican who voted with Bush more than 90% of the time, divorce himself from the Bush administration? In one word, Bad!

Posted by: Rick Q | September 4, 2008 11:56 PM | Report abuse

This speech was a nightmare...It was lifeless...He took a great speech from Obama and made it so depressing...As clearly stated, How are you going to be a "Agent of Change" when you and your party are part of the problem? Or does he not see himself as part of the problem over these past 8 years...He talked more about his POW status than anything else...I bet every AMERICAN can recite his past as a POW by now...Thats all I got from the speech...Nothing about how to get this NATION back on track...

Posted by: sam1972_ | September 4, 2008 11:56 PM | Report abuse

I don't doubt McCain loves the United States or is patriotic--nor do I doubt these things of Obama.

I worry that we are ramping up the culture wars again, something absolutely unhelpful in solving the problems of this country's citizens. Last Thursday, I heard Obama acknowledge the intractable issues that divide us, followed by places where people of differing ideologies might find common ground. I heard none of that from McCain tonight.

I am the first to admit that I don't agree with Obama on every last thing. But this country needs to be healed of its partisan divisions. Based on what I have heard and seen, Obama is the better hope for that. I just hope we have the foresight to elect him. There are many possible leaders--one of Obama's high caliber and talent comes along only rarely.

Posted by: tellthetruth | September 4, 2008 11:56 PM | Report abuse

The GOP were not enthused about his speech. The GOP doesn't like its laundry aired. I believe John McCain committed political suicide within his own party tonight.
Furthermore, the GOP never asked for our country's forgiveness, they asked for us to forget. I just don't have the taste for such suffering.

I'm no longer undecided

Posted by: BongWada | September 4, 2008 11:55 PM | Report abuse

I think he did better than expected, so I guess it can be considered a success. The reminders of his living through hell in Hanoi made me want to root for him to do a respectable job, which he did.

The smartest part of the speech was stating in no uncertain terms that the Republicans have failed the American people by deserting their own traditional principles when they achieved majority control of Congress. That failure was the elephant in the room - better to acknowledge it and move on from there.

Posted by: myskylark | September 4, 2008 11:55 PM | Report abuse

There are some really strange posts here.
People like "anonymous" sitting on the fence, but tending towards McCain . . .

Tending towards wha - - ?!!!

Tending towards McCain.

But WHY?

Sorry I can't help - it's quite inexplicable.
I guess their parents always voted Republican or something . . .

Posted by: wardropper | September 4, 2008 11:54 PM | Report abuse

Wow. That was bad. All POW, all the time. We honor your service John, but you need to move on.

Posted by: DemoDevil | September 4, 2008 11:54 PM | Report abuse

Dreadful. McCain/Palin: A Bridge to Nowhere

Posted by: madfeline | September 4, 2008 11:54 PM | Report abuse

Wow, can McCain be original? He tried to mimic some of what Obama had to say but far less convincing. He is out of touch and hoping that the POW story get folks distracted from the real issues needing real answers. Sorry, try again.

Posted by: BNW | September 4, 2008 11:54 PM | Report abuse

McCain - Palin = 48%

Obama - Biden = 42%

Posted by: werty234 | September 4, 2008 11:53 PM | Report abuse

A good speech by McCain, but lacking in any details on how he plans to govern. The jingoism at the end, when he urged everyone to "Fight with Me" (paired with the chants of "USA, USA") was a bit disturbing and off-putting. It completely undermined his attempts earlier in his speech to reach out to moderates and Independents. I don't think it was McCain's intention, but it reminded me of Buchanan's call for a "cultural war" in '92. This election is about to turn ugly, but Obama and the Democrats are going to win.

I feel bad about saying that, because I really like John McCain. Lord knows America and the world would be a far different now had he won the nomination in 2000. He's a honourable man who has served his country, if not always wisely, then still with its best intentions at heart. He's tried mightily to keep the Republican base at bay, but his paradox is that he needs them to even have a, uh, prayer of being elected. Thus, those who remember the maverick from 2000 are now forced to watch a man whose message sounds a lot like a third term of Dubya.

But he looks tired, he looks frail and the idea of Sarah Palin becoming Commander-in-Chief is too appalling to countenance. The Hockey Mom VP has had her moment. Next week the gloves are coming off, and the Dems (to say nothing of that nasty ol' Elite Liberal Media) are going to flay her alive. Can't wait until she actually has to start answering questions that aren't pre-screened.

Posted by: Cale | September 4, 2008 11:53 PM | Report abuse

I don't know why I come in here and read these ignorant posts. People, it wasn't a DEBATE or an ADDRESS about issues, it was an introduction and acceptance of the nomination. That's all it's MEANT to be so people who are apparently clueless can see who's in this race. Lotta whining was going on about "who is this Palin lady?" Now you know!!! Who is John McCain? well now you know!!! Like it or don't like it but NOW YOU KNOW!! What's wrong with that?!?

Posted by: non dem | September 4, 2008 11:52 PM | Report abuse

Republican U.S. Senator Thad Cochran on John McCain:
"The thought of his being president sends a cold chill down my spine.”

“He is erratic. He is hotheaded. He loses his temper.”

Alaskan Republican Senate President Lyda Green on Sarah Palin:

"She's not prepared to be governor. How can she be prepared to be vice president or president?"

Posted by: Andy | September 4, 2008 11:52 PM | Report abuse

As I see it McCain is going to wrap himself in the American flag from now until election day and that will be Obama's swift boat

Posted by: Frank T | September 4, 2008 11:52 PM | Report abuse

What a Joke

Posted by: BJG | September 4, 2008 11:52 PM | Report abuse

Country First?

More like "Country Club First" coming from the republican party.

Posted by: Jimmy | September 4, 2008 11:52 PM | Report abuse

Republican = hate
Republican = greed
Republican = mismanagement, waste, and corruption
Republican = selling out the country (literally)

You all know that's true. Don't hold back. Say it out loud. It'll make you feel good. Then repeat it everywhere you can!

Posted by: Rich F | September 4, 2008 11:52 PM | Report abuse

Dianne72,

Michelle Shiniqua? I think it is Michelle LaVaughn Obama. Also, your post gives you away..."prominent nostrils are flared" Wow! I didn't think out right racists like you existed and NO I am not playing the race card YOU did with your hateful, spite filled post at 11.28 p.m. Screaming about the so called race card (like the Rovian thugs do at the drop of a hat) does not negate YOUR blatant racism. If Senator Obama loses this Fall it will be because of lost causes like you. Yippee! we will have 8 more years of the last 8!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Chris | September 4, 2008 11:51 PM | Report abuse

That was a complete disaster. Um. I almost feel sorry for the other side.

There, it passed.

Posted by: BB | September 4, 2008 11:51 PM | Report abuse

Well, every single person without exception at the convention talked about McCain being a POW. Then there was a video about him being a POW. Then ANOTHER video about him being a POW. And then some weird voiceover (Fred Thompson?) about -- "He was in a box. He was in a box. He was in a box." Reminding us he was a POW.

And then McCain. Surely, every American must now know that he was a POW.

... but just in case, McCain told us the POW story yet again!

Holy cow, is this their entire platform? I was tortured 50 years ago, so make me president?

Boy, I always liked the guy, but I liked the guy for his behavior. I know lots of old guys his age that just tell war stories over and over (sadly, my grandpa is one), and it was like the whole Republican party was reduced to talking about how he was locked in a box in Hanoi.

Posted by: CarlinFan | September 4, 2008 11:50 PM | Report abuse

The clear difference between speeches of Obama and McCain is that Obama was talking about us and McCain primarily about himself.

Posted by: Andrzej | September 4, 2008 11:49 PM | Report abuse

Pete Illy is either and idiot or a plant. No true Clinton supporter would give up liberty, standing in the world, rights, jobs or security as a result of listening to this extreme right diatribe.

Posted by: nick haze | September 4, 2008 11:49 PM | Report abuse

Horrendous. He's old and scary and falling apart; she's young and scary and ready to dig in. One of the worst acceptance speeches ever.

Posted by: AtlantaDemocrat | September 4, 2008 11:49 PM | Report abuse

Dianne72,

Michelle Shiniqua? I think it is Michelle LaVaughn Obama. Also, your post gives you away..."prominent nostrils are flared" Wow! I didn't think out right racists like you existed and NO I am not playing the race card YOU did with your hateful, spite filled post at 11.28 p.m. Screaming about the so called race card (like the Rovian thugs do at the drop of a hat) does not negate YOUR blatant racism. If Senator Obama loses this Fall it will be because of lost causes like you. Yippee! we will have 8 more years of the last 8!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Chris | September 4, 2008 11:49 PM | Report abuse

I'm independent but leaning towards Obama. This speech really did not change my mind. McCain's main theme (other than his POW experience) was that he's all about change. Yet for almost 30 years he's been a DC insider. His own party has had control of DC for years and years-- yet where is the change? Oddly, his VP choice is even more in lockstep with George Bush's America than McCain is. Is a younger, female version, of the last eight years really "a change"? I don't think so.

Posted by: Lars | September 4, 2008 11:49 PM | Report abuse

Best line/picture of the night:

McCain reading the teleprompter: "Teach an adult... er, an illiterate adult to read."

Immediately the camera switches to a delegate waving a handmade sign reading "The Mavrick".

...You stay classy, St. Paul.

Posted by: Hooked on phonics | September 4, 2008 11:49 PM | Report abuse

Weird speech. McCain says he wants to move government out of the way, then he wants to add more programs to train people for work & making up the difference in wages between their old job & a temporary lower paid one? Huh? Did a Democrat slip that line in? Did he lose 2nd half of his speech? It sounds like he "used the Google" & finished up with something from John Edwards.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 11:48 PM | Report abuse

One word: PATHETIC.

Give to Obama if you can, or make some calls.

It's time to show the GOP how CHANGE is DONE.

Obama/Biden/08/12

Posted by: F&B | September 4, 2008 11:48 PM | Report abuse

Jesus was a community organizer.

Of course, he also accomplished nothing in his life.

Posted by: Jimmy | September 4, 2008 11:48 PM | Report abuse

I strained to hear one scintilla of difference between McCain's and Bush's positions on the two greatest issues of the day: The economy and the war(s).

I couldn't hear any. Could you?

This same speech could have been given 20 or 30 years ago: cut taxes, cut spending, hurrah for America, blah blah.

Jon Steward summed it up better than anybody, in a friendly, funny interview with Mike Huckabee aired immediately after the speech (I'm paraphrasing):

"So in other words, you believe YOUR PARTY party is the only one that can undo the damage to the country caused by YOUR PARTY over the past 8 years."

Kind of says it all, doesn't it?

Posted by: Janet W. | September 4, 2008 11:48 PM | Report abuse

McCain can sure wave his arm high for someone who insists he cannot lift his hand high enough to salute the flag.

His own bio-video showed him salute at least three times AFTER he was released from POW camp.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 11:48 PM | Report abuse

NOW McCain says he wants to reach across the aisle?

Who is going to reach out to him from the other side when he not only allows but himself uses vicious, mean, nasty, ugly smears on Obama?! Who is he kidding? He comes across as a narcissistic, mean old man. If it's on his terms, he'll reach out to the other side? What kind of selfless, country-first leader is that? I have been so turned off by McCain this past year. I don't recognize the man who worked across the aisle for immigration reform at all.

Posted by: NK | September 4, 2008 11:47 PM | Report abuse

Excellent speech.

It is a message of what America needs right now: experience, strength, and values

For all who want to see the downfall of our great nation, vote Obiden.

McCain/Palin '08

Posted by: Mindscape | September 4, 2008 11:47 PM | Report abuse

Palin's speech at least had an arc and sense of direction to it. McCain's was a bunch of random points that were never stitched together. The speech felt empty and meandering. McCain doesn't have the best delivery, but his speechwriters did no favors to him either.

It's just a few minutes after the speech, and, honestly, all I can remember of his words is the "fight...stand...fight...stand" at the end.

Posted by: blert | September 4, 2008 11:47 PM | Report abuse

Horrible speech. My Lord, what the heck was that? There was zero substance and almost a mirror of what Bush said eight years ago. This is all talk and no action. In fact, he can't even talk about the real issues.

Pathetic.

Posted by: Hankster | September 4, 2008 11:47 PM | Report abuse

Were those hockey moms that security was dragging off the convention floor? More about this from the press please. Is this what a President McCain would do with Democrats in Congress?

It sounds like the platform is two-fold; Reagan's 'make government smaller' and Bush's 'fear-mongering.' Frankly, I'm more afraid of Republicans than terrorists.

McCain couldn't have said it better than he did in Mississippi this week when he called on party members to “act as Americans” and “not as Republicans” because “America needs us now.”

I see they have gone back to being Republicans.

Posted by: David Blackburn | September 4, 2008 11:47 PM | Report abuse

You don't hire someone who made a mess to clean it up. McSame voted with Bush 90% of the time, and his love of country isn't going to lower my health care bill, protect our environment or improve my child's school.

Posted by: balthus | September 4, 2008 11:46 PM | Report abuse

McCain must have turrets syndrome,

"Fight, fight, we must fight, ehhhhh, I will fight, you must fight, fight, fight ehhhh fight, we must continue to fight, ehhhh fight, fight............."

Posted by: tazmodious | September 4, 2008 11:46 PM | Report abuse

"You'd have more diversity at a KKK lynching."

best line of the night, thanks norm

Posted by: ew | September 4, 2008 11:46 PM | Report abuse

Mr. Magoo had quite a bit of trouble reading the teleprompter. At least he spent most of his speech talking about how rotten the current administration has been(which he's voted with 95% of the time)!!

Posted by: Skeptic | September 4, 2008 11:46 PM | Report abuse

McCain/Palin platform

McCain is a POW and Obama is the boogie man.

Posted by: Jimmy | September 4, 2008 11:46 PM | Report abuse

I've been kind of neutral towards McCain, waiting for see who he picked as his running mate, but I'm downright terrified of Palin becoming President. I mean, genuine fear -- it went through my mind to consider writing letters to my state legislature asking to secede if she became President.

We don't know anything about her, and 2 months is not nearly enough time to learn. I know Republicans attack Obama, but we've had 2 years of intense scrutiny to figure him out, and 22 debates, and an endless primary. I hate George Bush, and he's been ruining our country, but I was never scared that he would do something so drastic as to put our lives at risk.

But who knows about Palin? Really, how can a presidential candidate inflict this upon us? He made the choice based on one meeting, based upon what the Christian right told him. No offense to the Christian right, but there's no way the rest of us can be expected to take it on faith that she's capable and won't do something stupid or nutso to put us all at risk?

It's just unfathomable.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 11:45 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, change the last eight disastrous Republican years with another Republican who follows the same talking points: oil, fear and war.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 11:45 PM | Report abuse

Weird speech. McCain says he wants to move government out of the way, then he wants to add more programs to train people for work & making up the difference in wages between their old job & a temporary lower paid one? Huh? Did a Democrat slip that line in? Did he lose 2nd half of his speech and use "the Google" for one of John Edwards' speeches?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 11:45 PM | Report abuse

McCain said the government has failed the people and should be thrown out. The people who would be thrown out were in the room cheering like crazy. Weird!

Posted by: jmoule | September 4, 2008 11:45 PM | Report abuse

It was so boring in one shot there was a young person in the crowd yawning! (Seriously)
I taped the speech though for nights when I cant sleep so it will help me get drowsy.
Obama/Palin in 2012!

Posted by: Joseph Cascio | September 4, 2008 11:45 PM | Report abuse

He doesn’t say that HE is in touch with ordinary Americans- mortgage payments, etc. He says that SHE, Palin, is in touch. He can’t wait to introduce her to Washington. I can’t believe that the Republican are grabbing onto this change mantra- they still think that Washington is in the hold of some good old boys who are not them.
He says Sarah has confronted these entrenched forces, and moved to energy independence. What has Sarah done about energy independence? Nothing but hand out cash. He claims he has been holding the big spenders accountable. How has he held Ted Stevens accountable? And I’d like to see him veto a bill. I don’t believe it.
Now he says he fought lobbyists who stole from Indian tribes, meaning Abramoff. And he says he fought for more troops in Iraq, but he doesn’t get the real rousing applause, I’d call it tepid applause. Perfunctory applause.
He accuses Senator Obama of passing a corporate welfare bill for oil companies? That sounds twisted. Party of Lincoln, Roosevelt and Reagan is going to get back to basics. Is that supposed to be the line that separates him from George Bush?
Work, faith service- this is what he says, but why then did Palin and Giuliani put down Obama’s three years of service as a community organizer?
Now he is back to the pro-life mantra, implying that only Republicans believe in families and neighborhoods. He is once again talking about neighborhoods, while Obama actually walked the walk. He was DOING it, not just talking about it. McCain says Obama’s tax increases will eliminate jobs. No proof of that. Mccain says his health care plan will help families get health insurance. He still has not said how families with pre-existing conditions will get health care.
Summing up, not details, more of the same, flat.

Posted by: janiak | September 4, 2008 11:45 PM | Report abuse

I'm confused, what did he say he was going to do for us? Didn't hear a thing about Medical care, Care for the Veterans, Seniors? What is he going to do for Social Security? Boy I don;t know who to choose. Maybe Sarah would make a better President then either of our choices

Posted by: Chiefmac | September 4, 2008 11:45 PM | Report abuse

McCain must have turrets syndrome,

"Fight, fight, we must fight, ehhhhh, I will fight, you must fight, ehhhh fight, fight ehhhh fight, we must continue to fight............."

Posted by: tazmodious | September 4, 2008 11:44 PM | Report abuse

Regardless of how you intend to vote, how can people not love this man? The greatest line in this speech was not written for him, it was off the cuff: "The American people want us to stop yelling at each other." Some men speak and we say "Wow, he can really turn a phrase." Others speak and we say "Let's march." McCain tells the truth and some of what he said was not popular in that hall. He is the kind of leader this country needs.

Posted by: NRF | September 4, 2008 11:44 PM | Report abuse

You Dems are amazing. Did any of you people actually listen to McCain's speech? It was extremely pro-America, without a lot of strictly partisan statements. How can any of you Dems actually attack McCain for not discussing specifics, when the only thing Obama speaks about is "Change" in any speech? The reason Obama never discusses specifics is because he is an academic blowhard with no touch with reality...most of his specific ideas are terrible and outright socialistic.

McCain gave a great speech. He has a greater love for what this country stands for and the people who make up it than most everyone in the country. He isn't working on his third book or declaring himself the greatest because he went to Harvard or U of Chicago...he actually wants to get something done. You Dems and the Dem politicians only care about two things: Power and blaming Republicans for things we all know are outside the control of any one executive office. It starts from the bottom up...exactly what McCain was begging for tonight.

McCain is not a typical Republican...he is an Independent who happened to run against a lot of poorly run Republican campaigns. Use your heads instead of voting strictly on party lines

Posted by: Reality48 | September 4, 2008 11:44 PM | Report abuse

John McCain: Inexperienced with Good Judgement

Posted by: Andy | September 4, 2008 11:43 PM | Report abuse

Zzzzzzzzzzz ... I hate to say it but Paris Hilton was more humorous and intriguing in her spoof.

Posted by: Giyen | September 4, 2008 11:43 PM | Report abuse

Where were the 80,000 people like Obama?
I guess the Republicans did not have enough money to pay 80,000 to show up so they had just a small handful...

yawn....

For the last 3 days, we have all been waiting for the Republicans to address the real issues, economics, energy alternatives, stem cell research, immigration, the deficit, corporate tax loopholes, etc. All the RNC provided was an old man and a beauty queen who is under investigation for office power abuse and shoots caribou.

Maybe the Republicans should have put up the caribou for VP, at least that would have been entertaining

Posted by: Barbara | September 4, 2008 11:43 PM | Report abuse

The prompter operator got so drunk that he messed up and started McCain's speech over again. Thats why you kept hearing the Pow experience over and over and over again. The graphics guy that handled the background got drunk too. And I lost my focus at times.
I must say however the speech was like waterboarding. His pow experience was force down our throats.
It was especially horrible after cindy's speech

Posted by: It was redundant | September 4, 2008 11:42 PM | Report abuse

Huh? Rip Van Winkle wakes up after three decades in Washington and declares himself a change agent? Wonder if anyone will notice as the media seem too busy gushing over the venom-spitting, book- banner from Alaska. (Is she really Limbaugh in drag?)

Save the world. Go to www.barackobama.com and DONATE NOW!

Posted by: Suzanne | September 4, 2008 11:42 PM | Report abuse

I liked his speech - thoughtful and convincing, substantive and down to earth, absent any cheap rhetorical flourishes. More convincing to me than Obama's speech which was a bit too high on octane-rhetoric. It's actually convinced me to give McCain another look. Too bad that I can't stand his VP choice.

Posted by: Maddy | September 4, 2008 11:42 PM | Report abuse

Has anybody seen the real John McCain?

Posted by: Jimmy | September 4, 2008 11:42 PM | Report abuse

Obama has no experince and is an old fashioned leftie.

Putting modern day democrats in charge of security is not smart.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 11:41 PM | Report abuse

Boring speech. Contained lots of bio stuff,
but no real content. Tried to distance himself from Bush, but he flopped. Too bad.
I was hoping for better.

Posted by: Fred | September 4, 2008 11:41 PM | Report abuse

Speech? Sing along... Ho-humm, ho-humm, a moose hunting we will go, because I'm a-ho-humm.

I totally loved the USMC protester! Awesome freedom speech and best speech of McCain's speech. :D

John McCain despised the religious right, when he ran for President and was swift-voted by these fanatics for Bush (2000).

John McCain loves the religious right in 2008 incarnated as his running mate and voting record of over 90% with Bush putting our nation into *trillions* of debt. (Btw, that's how tax cuts for the wealthy work & why the middle class shrinks paying more and more taxes. Republicans always blame democrats with this strategy of more ownership and wealth for themselves.)

John McCain is the culture wars and the religious right in 2008.

McCain has said this about his decision making style in his 2002 book: Worth the Fighting For... “I make them [decisions] as quickly as I can, quicker than the other fellow, ...often my haste is a mistake, but I live with the consequences without complaint.”
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Obama by contrast is thoughtful, measured, balanced in temperament, and under pressure and stress he is superior in character to make wise decisions. A true leader with a high intellect, true commitment and a scholar of our U.S. Constitution, loves his country in long-term service for the common man, and his very popularity around the world will help restore our country's image and prestige.

I will be proud to have him as my president, and, yes, the world will be proud of America too. Proud to have America lead again in high esteem and ideals inspiring youth everywhere.

Freedom!

Republican Delegates:

93% White
5% Hispanic
2% Black

68% Male
32% Female

5% Union
33% Evangelicals

The statistics above proves there is NO bipartisan in the Republican party.

America, vote every Republican out of office this November, and if the democrats fail in eight years??? ...Easy! Vote both parties out.

Obama will make us loved and respected around the world. We will have far less enemies, and far more friends. Yes, he is a superstar, a celebrity, and Barack Obama is highly respected everywhere he goes. Yes he can.

What an inspiration to the world and your children.

YOU, and you, and you...

and, yes, yes you can, you!

...can make World History and our Nations History famous in our time by voting for Barack Obama. It's a magic opportunity given to you just this once.

You can.

Posted by: HawkFeather | September 4, 2008 11:41 PM | Report abuse

Okay -- he made a speech about (fill in blank). Doesn't matter -- the guy changes position so often that next time he gives another speech he will have changed his positions once again.

Posted by: Chicago Todd | September 4, 2008 11:41 PM | Report abuse

I think that the second half of John McCain's speech was powerful. I was very skeptical that he would be able to make a strong case that his character will foster change, but he convinced me.

Chris Matthews stated after Obama's race speech in Philadelphia as a speech that all students going into public office ought to listen to and read. I thought that McCain's speech really spelled out what public service and love of country really means. McCain's speech of putting country over self is a model that our political culture can greatly benefit from.

As a former Clinton supporter, I will vote for John McCain this fall, because his message truly transcends party lines.

Posted by: Pete Illy | September 4, 2008 11:40 PM | Report abuse

Is there a limit on how many times one can milk one's sob story? He's the exploit-o-pow, his entire career based on his heroically getting..... shot down.

Okay John, you we're a POW, I think the country knows that. Perhaps you changed the story some...that's it.,, you made it more tear jerky. That should help the country. A changed POW story is a comin'!

Posted by: Rob L. | September 4, 2008 11:40 PM | Report abuse

Shocking. Shocking. Just incredibly, incredibly bad. Experience aside -- can he really own a room of friends? How about enemies?

Posted by: CJ | September 4, 2008 11:40 PM | Report abuse

I was just wondering..since he fell in love with his country in a pow camp in vietnam when he was in his late 20's, does that mean he didn't love his country before that?

Posted by: Jerry | September 4, 2008 11:35 PM

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Obviously, you have no idea about what service to this country is about. The experience proved how much more he had love for his country.

Posted by: Anthony | September 4, 2008 11:40 PM | Report abuse

What an uninspiring convention speech! Very old, tired ideas. How can McCain change America when he can't motivate it to listen to him. His speech was completely inane. I can't imagine listening to McCain drone on for 4 years.

Posted by: Andy | September 4, 2008 11:40 PM | Report abuse

A ghastly speech full of distorted lines, each with its own sly smile. *shudders*

Lots of promises, no specifics, too much P.O.W. and not enough pow... until the end when McCain came to life. Unfortunately, I thought he'd have a heart attack right there and then. No kidding, I wondered whether they'd do the nomination over and choose Palin.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 11:39 PM | Report abuse

This was one of the best speeches I have ever heard McCain give. That said he lacked any information I could use in the upcoming election. I will wait for the debates although I think this was his best shot. He had months to prepare for this lasting impression. Thank you Senator McCain for your service. I have to say though I think you might think about retirement.

Posted by: Independent | September 4, 2008 11:39 PM | Report abuse

McCain was better than Ellie Mae Clampett last night. I've always respected McCain until he fell hostage to his party. With Palin on the ticket, there is no chance I will cross party lines. I hope she gets back on her broom and fly to Alaska.

Posted by: dre | September 4, 2008 11:39 PM | Report abuse

this is really change you can't believe in. How does someone who voted with Bush 90% of the time sound credible with his promises of change? and his jobs plan? if you lost a good paying job because I gave tax breaks to corporations that shipped your job overseas, I'll help you get a lower paying job? Gee, thanks, John

Posted by: gschwartz | September 4, 2008 11:37 PM | Report abuse

My only concern is that will he live through his 4 year term if elected, because I really do not want to turn the country over to Sarah. She talks big, but is way too green to be President of the United States of America. What to do, what to do?!?

Posted by: Scared | September 4, 2008 11:37 PM | Report abuse

It was a standard McCain speech, nothing more, nothing less. I can't imagine too many undecided voters being knocked off their socks by this one.

Posted by: Paula G | September 4, 2008 11:37 PM | Report abuse

It was a wooden speech, typical of McCain. And I just don't understand the logic. How could someone who has been part of the Washington elite for so long, who has voted with Bush 90% of the time, whose party has brought the country to where it is now, be an agent for change? It was actually funny when he looked out on the overwhelmingly rich, well-heeled white audience and said, "I know many of you have been struggling..." But at least he had the honesty to say that the Republicans had failed to deliver over the past few years. The voters are simply not in the mood to reward failure.

Posted by: Mark O | September 4, 2008 11:36 PM | Report abuse

So very same old, same old And I do mean old. Too bad Ms Palin's energy was just last night---the contrast was shocking---he's probably a fine man, but he's just too old and tired.

Posted by: lscquig | September 4, 2008 11:36 PM | Report abuse

Just clean up Washington. Go McCain/Palin!

Posted by: Moe | September 4, 2008 11:35 PM | Report abuse

A couple good lines. Kudos to the speechwriter.
Man, this guy is not a speech giver.

The only time he was animated was when talking about his P.O.W. experience. With all due respect to his service, his father's service and his grandfather's service; that DOES NOT qualify him to solve the problems currently facing our country.

And, boy was I confused at his attack on Congress. He has been a member of Congress for how many years??? That whole part of the speech was totally incoherent.

After this speech, which is the first time I've ever listened to an entire speech by this man, I will admit that I am convinced that he does love his country.
And so do I. That is why I am voting Obama/Biden '08.


Posted by: Kelly | September 4, 2008 11:35 PM | Report abuse

I was just wondering..since he fell in love with his country in a pow camp in vietnam when he was in his late 20's, does that mean he didn't love his country before that?

Posted by: Jerry | September 4, 2008 11:35 PM | Report abuse


The answer is he did very well. If the question is who can rise above party politics and unite Americans, I think McCain is much less divisive than Obama, through his supporters, has been. He is actually more independent in his reocrd than Obama is.

Independent Democrat, now leaning toward McCain. He will need to say more about what he will do about Bush's tax policy, which he disagreed with. Obama never said how he was going to do all those fabulous things, and can never prove that he can do it.

Posted by: Chicago1 | September 4, 2008 11:35 PM | Report abuse

As an independent I think it was an "okay" speech. I was reminded of why I used to like McCain and I think he made a good case about his wealth of experience. I also think he could work with Democrats to get good things done.

At this point, I think McCain would be the more pragmatic choice; Obama is clearly an intelligent man but I'm not sure he understands the use of power.

On the other hand, I haven't been happy with McCain's pandering to the conservative right and I think Obama might just be smart enough to overcome his lack of experience. Certainly other presidents with more experience have been disasters.

So...I'm still on the fence.

Posted by: Mr. Moderate | September 4, 2008 11:35 PM | Report abuse

Anonymous, you've never seen a dog clean up its own mess? Sure it has - when it eats its own vomit. But that's a metaphor I would rather not pursue.

As for his speech - meh. It was okay. I think he dragged out Vietnam a few too many times. His best lines were when he challenged his own party. Unfortunately, they really won't carry weight until the Republicans lose and spend a few years in the wilderness. Until then, it's too little, too late, and most people won't buy it.

Posted by: Mr. Ecks | September 4, 2008 11:35 PM | Report abuse

Is not being able to read from a teleprompter a symptom of Alzheimer's?

We better figure this out now, before the Moose Lady has a chance to build us another War to Nowhere.

Posted by: Bill B. | September 4, 2008 11:35 PM | Report abuse

The story of McCain being a POW is not about "I've earned it" it is proof of his character.

There has never been, and possibly never will be again, a presidential candidate who has the ability to bring this country together. I’ll be voting for McChange and Palin!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 11:35 PM | Report abuse

all I can say is that the 50 people who were there at the RNC watching it looked pretty darned excited. so it MUST have been great.

Posted by: zebra3 | September 4, 2008 11:35 PM | Report abuse

I'm very sad. The speech wasn't very good. It really wasn't nearly as full of spite as Palin's. That really hurts me. I was hoping for another $10 Million day for Obama:

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/04/after-palin-speech-obama-has-record-10-million-day/

I can't wait to drive from NY to NH this weekend, and I'm going to make a second trip in October, and a third on election day to drive people to the polls from morning till night.

Thanks Sarah. Thanks John. I'm inspired.
--
Kevin B

I'm saying it now: President Barack H. Obama, Jr., 2009 - 2017

Posted by: Kb | September 4, 2008 11:34 PM | Report abuse

McCain has had a long time to develop specific talking points relative to a plan for change and still he offers nothing. I'm sure we're all happy as clams about his military service in the distant past, but most of us want to know about the uncertainties in our immediate futures. He had a major role in creating those uncertainties but he has nothing to offer in terms of specific solutions. I'm hoping America has the sense to look beyond these pathetic candidates presented by the republican party.

Posted by: Butch Dillon | September 4, 2008 11:34 PM | Report abuse

It's fairly absurd for Sen. McCain to say he intends to govern in a bi-partisan way one night after his hand-picked running mate spent her entire speech on junior-high level partisan attacks--even ridiculing the whole idea of Sen. Obama's community service. The contrast between Sen. Biden and Obama honoring Sen. McCain's service while disagreeing with his policies, and the Republican "our opponents are ridiculous and evil" approach, tells me what I need to know about which side wants to govern a civil country, and which side wants to continue dividing us from one another. Obama-Biden '08!

Posted by: Darrell Holtz | September 4, 2008 11:34 PM | Report abuse

Where are the paid disinfo trolls tonight?

Oh, the poster who said it was "sufficient," maybe that's one of them.

Guess even they know a snoozer when they see it...

Posted by: Eyes2disinfo | September 4, 2008 11:34 PM | Report abuse

McCain must have turetts syndrome. he kept repeating, "fight, fight, keep fighting, ehhhhhh, I'll fight, you must fight, ehhhhhh, we must keep fighting, ehhhh, fight, fight, fight..........ehhhhh!

Posted by: tazmodious | September 4, 2008 11:34 PM | Report abuse

I listened to every word, but I have no sense of what he plans to do. No over-arching theme or specific policies. All the points sounded like code for policies loved by the people in the room.

What I take away is that he was a POW and that he really wants to fight for something...just not sure what that thing is.

Posted by: Metame | September 4, 2008 11:33 PM | Report abuse

I tried watching. It was just too painful. I liked the vet with the "You can't win an Occupation sign" - not sure what to make of the women who were yelling - not really necessary. It seemed that the protests only succeeded in actually getting the crowd going.
The "Country First" thing? It has this very creepy nationalistic tone to it.

Posted by: AlishaB | September 4, 2008 11:33 PM | Report abuse

McCain's been in Washington for 26 years. He's part of the problem, not the solution. A very dull speech delivered by a very dull man. No new ideas on how to fix the country. I believe it was past his bedtime and he needed to change his diapers.

Posted by: Joe | September 4, 2008 11:33 PM | Report abuse

It was just words--and mostly words we've heard before, at that.

Posted by: Durant Imboden | September 4, 2008 11:33 PM | Report abuse

That was a surprisingly low energy speech. It almost looked like a swan song, like he was saying good bye to everyone and getting a gold watch.

If he really wanted to end divisive partisan politics, then why orchestrate all the over-the-top nastiness yesterday evening? This convention was confused from start to finish. I don't think the Republicans know what they stand for anymore.

Oh, did you know that McCain was a POW? That was the really new twist to the speech.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 11:33 PM | Report abuse

Yes, folks, McCain is going to bring change to Washington.

It's about time, since he's already been there for 25 years.

I think it's about time we had a President who personally went to the other side of the planet to drop bombs on people. That makes America great.

Posted by: wcf | September 4, 2008 11:33 PM | Report abuse

Boring, boring, boring.... Actually, I turned it off and went to watch the last games of the Djokovic vs Roddick game. When it finished I went back and there he was, for the upteenth time, speaking about his POW experience! Nothing better to say? Promises, void promises... didn't really say what he'll do different from GWB.

Posted by: C. McCall | September 4, 2008 11:32 PM | Report abuse

zzzzzz....oh, is it over?
OMG. I thought McCain would have gotten better at giving speeches over the last year. He is just horrible. His only ad libs are when he says "my friends".

What happened to the McCain of 2000?

Posted by: Rhonda | September 4, 2008 11:32 PM | Report abuse

How ignorant does the American Middle Class have to be to vote for elitists/bought and paid for politicians (REP/GOP) who support welfare/tax cuts for the wealthiest/white collar criminals who steal from us/or sell us out for $$s, while we continue to increase productivity beyond expectations.

A vote for McCain/Palin is a vote for Bush/Cheney v2.0

Posted by: sjdnb | September 4, 2008 11:32 PM | Report abuse

It was Republican Vs Republican...
Their arugment was we are fighting for change against ourselves..

On the lighter side , I like the orchestrated cheering and smirk on John's face...

Posted by: sam69 | September 4, 2008 11:31 PM | Report abuse

Snooooozzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz........

Posted by: Jasper | September 4, 2008 11:31 PM | Report abuse

I was really looking forward to hearing about his economic plan. I heard nothing about it. Yes, he's admirable for his life's journey. He told it again tonight even though I already heard before, because Fred Thompson told us earlier this week. I just really wanted to know what he's going to do from this moment forward. He barely mentioned the issues by name but didn't say what he's going to do about them. Extremely disappointing.

Posted by: disappointed | September 4, 2008 11:31 PM | Report abuse

It was better than I expected it to be. I was glad that he spent most of his time talking about his platform than attacking his opponent.

What struck me most was the crowd chanting "USA!" rather than their candidate's name. That's what it SHOULD be about.

Posted by: Tirade | September 4, 2008 11:31 PM | Report abuse

The Left is reeling....McCain-Palin will win, and the charlatan Obama will lose in his journey "of personal discovery" as Palin so eloquently put it.

Then won't it be great to see all the racism come to a boil and the riots ensue.

Posted by: Dan | September 4, 2008 11:30 PM | Report abuse

Heard it all before.

If he were really a maverick, he would have dared to go with a centrist like Ridge and he'd be ahead.

Palin casts such serious doubts on his fitness to lead that he's in serious trouble.

He can't win with just the base (unless the electronic voting machines "help").

Whatever the plan is, is McCain "read in," as they say?

If the exit polls differ greatly from the official tally, that will provide a clue.


Posted by: scrivener | September 4, 2008 11:30 PM | Report abuse

You'd have more diversity at a KKK lynching.
McCain reminds me of Montgomery Burns.
Protesters were the highlights.

Posted by: NormDePlume | September 4, 2008 11:30 PM | Report abuse

Yawn...done before...too long.

Posted by: Mr Cee | September 4, 2008 11:30 PM | Report abuse

So McCain is the dog that will clean up the mess of the last eight years made by the GOP.

Funny. I've never seen a dog clean up it's own mess.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 11:29 PM | Report abuse

I like John McCain, at least I used to like the old John McCain. I think this country would be better off if John McCain had been president during the last eight years, and not Dubya.

What a snoozer of a speech. I almost wanted someone to put a mirror in front of face to make sure he was still breathing.

Posted by: Alisa | September 4, 2008 11:29 PM | Report abuse

McCain's been in Washington for 26 years. He's part of the problem, not the solution. A very dull speech delivered by a very dull man. No new ideas on how to fix the country. I believe it was past his bedtime and he needed to change his diapers.

Posted by: Joe | September 4, 2008 11:29 PM | Report abuse

I didn't think his speech could be more boring than Cindy's but I was wrong....I didn't learn one new thing about him or his platform. How can he stand there straight-faced and talk about the problems in Washington when he's been part of the ruling party in Washington for so many years? Who's buying this? I was just so bored and cheered at the end just because it was finally over. The protests during the speech was the most exciting part.

Posted by: Serf | September 4, 2008 11:29 PM | Report abuse

I have a lot of respect for Sen. McCain. He served us all well. Certainly he has the commitment, but sadly he lacks the vision that we desperately need. Maybe McCain can make some changes, but it is a certainty that Obama can change the world.

Posted by: Andrea | September 4, 2008 11:29 PM | Report abuse

SPECIFICS????????????

So hes going to fire bad teachers?????

This is all hes got????

Posted by: JJ | September 4, 2008 11:28 PM | Report abuse

McCain's a decent and honest guy, which is why his call for change and laundry list of failures of Bush and the Republicans over the past eight years was the best argument for why Obama should, and indeed, MUST be the next President.

Posted by: Paul | September 4, 2008 11:28 PM | Report abuse

ture it, Trinity Church 2006. Michelle Shiniqua Obama is speaking from the pulpit. Her prominent nostrils are flared, brow furrowed, and a scowl across her face. She is ranting against "whitey" and how they keep "raising the bar". All the while punching the air with a fist-bump. This my friends is what we will see in October when they release her "whitey-gate" tapes on YouTube.

Posted by: Dianne72 | September 4, 2008 11:28 PM | Report abuse

just ok - at least he had some policy in there unlike that stooge Sarah Palin

Posted by: jp | September 4, 2008 11:28 PM | Report abuse

If this election is about issues, McCain loses. If it's about personalities as the handlers hope, he also loses.

Posted by: WPE | September 4, 2008 11:28 PM | Report abuse

Obama loses America loses.

I wouldn't hire the GOP to run a lemonade stand.


Before Bush 500 Million Surplus.

After Bush 500 Billion Deficit Two wars that will go on for years, Unemployment, Foreclosures, deficit all at record high's.

5000 + soldiers killed for lies.
100,000 wounded.
Over a million Iraqis dead.
Two Million Iraqis lost there homes.


If you want to see America file Bankruptcy
and be turn into the USSR vote for the GOP.

It's up to you.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 11:28 PM | Report abuse

The 9/11 video was sick and the attempt was too scare voters yet again. Sorry, McBush the old Carl Rove tactics won't work.
(CNN) – Barack Obama's campaign says it has raised more than $8 million from over 130,000 donors following Republican VP candidate Sarah Palin's speech Wednesday night.

The campaign also says it is on track to raise $10 million before John McCain takes the podium at the Republican National Convention tonight.

Posted by: ndrick | September 4, 2008 11:27 PM | Report abuse

Speech To Nothing

Posted by: anon | September 4, 2008 11:27 PM | Report abuse

That was deadly dull and lacking any meat. And for McCain to bring up that POW story AGAIN... he's starting to sound like my Grandpa, who retold the same WWII stories over and over and over. Not looking too spry, coming across as older than 72, I think... gotta worry about whether Palin WILL become Leader of the Free World under a McCain presidency.

Posted by: DogBitez | September 4, 2008 11:27 PM | Report abuse

I much preffer Sarah Palin to McCain, I would Much rather her be on top the ticket.
Or a Huckabee/Palin ticket would of been my dream ticket. Congrats Sarah Palin, Youll be a great Vice President., Or President for that matter. If you want to learn more about Sarah Palin or her Back Ground they have alot of Background Info, Pics, Videos, about Sarah and her Family. http://www.veeppeek.com The Next Big Scadal She will have to overcome will be her daughers, boyfriend. http://www.hotpres.com

Posted by: pastor123 | September 4, 2008 11:27 PM | Report abuse

It seems as if his speech was more about him than us...the struggling Americans...

Posted by: Tonya | September 4, 2008 11:26 PM | Report abuse

I have been in this country for 7 years and when I arrived I was struck at how poor and uneducated most blacks are. I could never figure out why most had children out of wedlock, sold drugs, and were in jail. THEY EVEN HAVE THE HIGHEST RATE OF HIV!

I suppose it is the slave metality from generations ago but at some point they will have to take responsibility. I think that is the reason Senator Obama appeals to so many whites because he isn't 100% black. He has a black face but the mentality of a white person. That makes the vote palatable and they can feel good about themselves. I doubt many of these white voters would go for an Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson - just too black and they are for more representative of the black American - not Barack Obama.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 11:25 PM | Report abuse

To take a quote from my new blog posting:

"Why is John McCain running for President? Does he know that the term 'Commander in Chief' is not also the whole job description? Aside from continually pushing the need to win in Iraq, and linking his Vietnam POW years as proof that he will 'put country first' to achieve 'victory', McCain didn't lay out one policy that he would push in the White House."

http://kandashan2008.blogspot.com/2008/09/speech-about-nothing.html

Posted by: Kan Da Shan | September 4, 2008 11:25 PM | Report abuse

Listening to him I am more convinced that he is completely out of touch with mainstream America and the economy. The only thing he is passionate about is his service and the army. While that is commendable, unfortunately for him America needs more at this critical time.

Posted by: AmForChange | September 4, 2008 11:25 PM | Report abuse

I can tell it didn't go over big because all the Palin people here from last night are nowhere to be seen. Something wrong?

Posted by: WPE | September 4, 2008 11:24 PM | Report abuse

A week ago, I heard a depressing speech about the lousy country that I lived in. That we are in a country that has nothing but problems. Tonight, I am happy to be an American again. John McCain gave us an uplifting speech. He is the only one that can lead our country. God Bless the USA, John McCain and Sarah Palin.

Posted by: Anthony | September 4, 2008 11:24 PM | Report abuse

Sorry McCain you were part of the Party over the past 8 years. The party is over, the GOP rejected you twice. I only have to do it once. Your a strong man, I know you can take it!

You buckled to the Right Wing when you picked Palin. You don't fool me one bit. You should've ran as an independent. Now that would have been a maverick move to make.

Posted by: Terry | September 4, 2008 11:23 PM | Report abuse

McCains speech was actually OK tonight., I cant even remember a good speech McCain has ever given. I dont think McCain holds a Candle to Sarah Palin or Mike Huckabee tonight. He is not a great speaker. Probably should not of been the nominee., I am really starting to like Sarah Palin, Ive read a bit of her Bio they have posted and some old videos and pictures at http://www.veeppeek.com., But I am still struggling with all these questions about scandal and her daughters boy friend seems like a little thug.? http://www.hotpres.com We will see, McCain Palin has not earned my vote yet.

Posted by: pastor123 | September 4, 2008 11:23 PM | Report abuse

Being a prisoner of war does not qualify someone to be President of the United States.

Posted by: A New Democrat | September 4, 2008 11:23 PM | Report abuse

Obama is going to lose! LOL!

Posted by: Nadeem Zakaria | September 4, 2008 11:23 PM | Report abuse

I don't know about you folks, but I was obsessed with playing the game "spot the minority" every time they panned the crowd.

Finally, after about a dozen crowd shots there was a black woman, and the camera focused on her as if to say "how about that!"

That crowd was about as white as all get out.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 11:22 PM | Report abuse

I used to respect and admire John McCain in 2000 and I am very disappointed in him. I am not even sure where to start. It really boils down to selling his soul for power. Eight years ago he truly spoke about the agents of intolerance and now he has elevated one of their disciples to be his vice president.

Posted by: Peter Zenger | September 4, 2008 11:20 PM | Report abuse

A high at the end, otherwise, standard GOP fare with POW experience mixed in. The GOPPOW party?

Posted by: Cesar | September 4, 2008 11:20 PM | Report abuse

This what it has come to for the Republicans. The big story is the balloon drop.

Posted by: WPE | September 4, 2008 11:18 PM | Report abuse

McCain has benefited from low expectations, which he exceeded, so it's a win for him. But are swing and independent voters really buying this stuff?

Posted by: Leo Vidal | September 4, 2008 11:18 PM | Report abuse

i like how he wants to keep bureaucrats out from between you and your doctor, unless of course you want an abortion. and abolish unemployment insurance. and drill in hurricane alley. other than that he sounded like a democrat, too bad i don't buy a bit of it.

Posted by: erik | September 4, 2008 11:17 PM | Report abuse

One of the worst acceptance speeches I've seen in a generation. Reminiscent of Gerald Ford 1976.

It was slow, overly cautious, lacking detail, and not reflective of the current state of affairs in the country/world.

It didn't address to a big enough extent the economic trouble the country is in.

It didn't address that most Americans want out of Iraq, even if the surge has been a success, which McCain took credit for.

McCain's vision of change in his address to the party in power looked like the lime green background he spoke in front of: awkward, blank, and reflecting poorly on McCain's ginger appearance.

Posted by: Sam | September 4, 2008 11:16 PM | Report abuse

Good thing he got shot down over Vietnam or that would have been a short speech.

Posted by: WPE | September 4, 2008 11:16 PM | Report abuse

That was truly abysmal. Boring speech, flat delivery, bizarre staging. Anyone really want four years of this?

Posted by: Dan Conley | September 4, 2008 11:15 PM | Report abuse

Eh, it was fine if unspectacular. A drop from Palin, but that would have been hard for him to top given his style. Not exciting but sufficient.

Posted by: Rich | September 4, 2008 11:14 PM | Report abuse

He didn't completely mess up the delivery, so I guess it is a win for the GOP. Nothing new or exciting about any of it.

Only interesting thing was how completely the GOP base does not care about his reformer credentials. They want them some Sarah!

Posted by: Nathaniel Perkins | September 4, 2008 11:14 PM | Report abuse

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