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Riggers lift scaffolding into place in front of the Curb Events event site at Belmont University in Nashville, Tenn., Monday, Oct. 6, 2008, as preparations continue for Tuesday's presidential debate. (AP Photo/J. David Ake)

Expectation is building in advance of tonight's second presidential debate in Nashville, Tenn. between -- if you don't know this by now you should stop reading this blog immediately -- John McCain and Barack Obama.

The Fix is readying his typing fingers for tonight's Twitterfest so make sure to sign up for our feed. (Don't know what Twitter is? Watch this.)

In the meantime, here are a few things to watch for tonight. Have debate thoughts of your own? The comments section is open for business.

Fewer Fireworks. The townhall format coupled with the fact that neither moderator Tom Brokaw nor the audience can ask follow up questions of the candidates should make for a lot of stump speech and very little interaction. (BOOO!) In theory, that's good news for Obama as it lessens the risk of an unscripted moment that could change the direction of a race that is looking better and better for him by the day.

McCain -- Desperate or Daring? As the Post's Dan Balz writes in his must-read "Take" today, the pressure in tonight's debate is squarely on the Arizona senator. McCain comes to Nashville scuffling both nationally and in key battleground states. Tonight represents his best (last?) chance to re-frame the debate from a discussion of which candidate is better equipped to heal the economy to a referendum on whether Obama is ready to lead. How McCain attempts to make the case against Obama tonight is all important. In his primary debates -- particularly with respect to former Gov. Mitt Romney -- McCain came across as sarcastic and angry when he went on the attack. He needs to avoid repeating those performances tonight. McCain has to find places to hit Obama without seeming as though he is forcing the attacks or making negative personal hits on the Illinois senator. It's no easy task.

Obama and "Erratic." If "maverick" was the most popular word in last week's vice presidential debate between Joe Biden and Sarah Palin, "erratic" is the watch word tonight. The Obama campaign has worked overtime to cast McCain's behavior during the financial crisis as reflective of a larger instability in his approach to big problems -- using "erratic" as often as they can. Take a debate memo sent to reporters this morning by Obama spokesman Bill Burton that reads in part: "The fact is, McCain has erratically been all over the map in recent weeks, telling Americans that the fundamentals of the economy are strong only days before claiming to suspend his campaign and warning of another depression."

Who's the Underdog? On the one hand, every state and national poll shows movement toward Obama and his massive spending edge on television appears to be asserting itself in the final month of the campaign. On the other, McCain has done hundreds of townhall meetings in his political career, and was so comfortable with the format that he proposed a series of ten such gatherings with Obama this summer. Despite McCain's skill at townhalls, we still think he's the underdog, based on his disadvantage in polling and fundraising, and the public increasingly blaming his party for the financial crisis gripping the nation.

Tomorrow Never Dies. Looming over tonight's debate is the promise made by McCain operatives that starting tomorrow the campaign will go on television with a more character-driven attacks against Obama. Palin has already primed the pump in that regard -- making regular mention of Obama's ties to Bill Ayers, a former member of the Weather Underground, during her stump speeches this week. Does Obama make mention of the coming onslaught? Does McCain? Or do both candidates ignore the train barreling down the tracks at them?

(Sidenote: The new RNC ad set to be released tomorrow makes no mention of Ayers. It's a straight hit on Obama as a tax and spender.)

By Chris Cillizza  |  October 7, 2008; 6:00 PM ET
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McCain made his usual claim to be like Teddy Roosevelt. Hmmm, does he make this analogy because TR:
Went to HARVARD and COLUMBIA (like Obama) and earned a HARVARD degree with HONORS (like Obama);
Firmly BELIEVED IN THE SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE, thought it unwise to have In God We Trust on currency, and would not swear on a Bible;
Was the YOUNGEST person to assume the presidency, at 42;
Was known for his political move to the LEFT;
Promoted REGULATION of railroads, foods and drugs and launched 90 antitrust suits, including one against the largest corporation, U.S. Steel;
Was considered among the most WELL-READ of any American politician;
Worked with major figures in the ENVIRONMENTAL CONSERVATION movement; and
Won the NOBEL PEACE PRICE and negotiated the END of two WARS.
Who is that Make-Believe Maverick kidding?????


Posted by: fairandbalanced2 | October 9, 2008 10:47 AM | Report abuse

Sen. John McCain clearly won last night's debate.

Democrats for John McCain and Sarah Palin in 2008.

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Posted by: suma_abhi | October 8, 2008 3:48 AM | Report abuse

So is "37th and O" one of those Georgetown cocktail party conservatives about whom McCain is not fond? Clearly that is a Georgetown address, only about six blocks from the heart of Georgetown (33rd and M). He's probably a low-level staffer for a right-wing Republican House member.

Palin is clearly not the Georgetown type as she is not cosmopolitan in any respect.

Early post-debate CBS poll favored Obama. Debate responses from Pennsylvania focus group on MSNBC clearly favored Obama. It seemed like both candidates did fairly well---definitely no game-changer. Obama seems to continue to establish himself as Presidential with independent and uncommitted voters. Therefore it's easy to assess him the winner in view of no definite advantage for McCain. Even if scored a draw, Obama benefits from a draw for two reasons. He's already leading, with that lead seeming to widen and harden with each passing day, but also because appearing Presidential helps assuage doubts. It appeared as though McCain did nothing to meaningfully close the gap tonight.

Posted by: OHIOCITIZEN | October 7, 2008 11:20 PM | Report abuse

Liar,McCAIN: Said Obama had voted for tax increases "94 times."

THE FACTS: This inflated count, heard before, includes duplicate votes as well as votes to cut taxes for the middle class while raising them on the rich. An analysis by factcheck.org found that 23 of the votes were for measures that would have produced no tax increase at all, seven were in favor of measures that would have lowered taxes for many, 11 would have increased taxes on only those making more than $1 million a year.

Posted by: ottothewise | October 7, 2008 10:42 PM | Report abuse

McCain is Bush, My Friends.

Posted by: DaveMiner | October 7, 2008 10:21 PM | Report abuse

Oh good lord. After the relentless trolling for blog hits, I was curious. According to 37th and Q Avenue, the entire financial crisis is... (drumroll please)

AFFIRMITIVE ACTION.

Yup folks. That's it. Wall Street has been overrun by affirmative action, pushing out all those trust fund babies. I wonder if 37th&Q Avenue has bothered checking out C-Span coverage. It's not like you're looking at the Knicks out there.

BB

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | October 7, 2008 10:11 PM | Report abuse

"Voted One Of The Nation's Top 5 Blogs For The Election of 2008"

By people who live west of 36th, east of 38th, north of N, and south of P.

BTW - Officer Mancuso is a reference to a character on Hill Street Blues. Sheesh.

BB

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | October 7, 2008 10:07 PM | Report abuse

Tom Brokaw is interfering with the debate by sticking his voice in too much. He is biased against Obama.

Posted by: paulnolan97 | October 7, 2008 9:49 PM | Report abuse

Darth Vader aka McCain listen to him gasping for air as he walks around.
NOT A GOOD SIGN!

Posted by: 1-20-09 | October 7, 2008 9:49 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: 37thandOStreet | October 7, 2008 9:44 PM | Report abuse

37th and O Street advertises his blog:

"Voted One Of The Nation's Top 5 Blogs For The Election of 2008"

If this really does represent a national consensus, we are worse off than I ever feared. More likely, though, is that it represents a "nation" of adoring "fans" whose real "admiration" is crystal clear to 37th, invisible though it may be to those of us who can spell.

Posted by: bokonon13 | October 7, 2008 9:23 PM | Report abuse

Like we should vote for reasonable doubt, with no facts. Kind of late for scare tactics.

"Let the vetting of Obama finally begin. It's been a year and half and too many unanswered questions remain.
Investigative journalists do your job!"

Posted by: ojwbrgibdsaf | October 7, 2008 9:02 PM | Report abuse

Obama is qualified to be President...

From lawforkids.com

"Section 1 of Article 2 of the U.S. Constitution states that a President must:

be a natural born citizen of the united States
be at least 35 years old
have lived in the U.S. for at least 14 years"

In 4 weeks you will have to call him Mr. President.

Posted by: land_of_Lincoln | October 7, 2008 9:02 PM | Report abuse

Perhaps if the Alaska Governor hadn't shown herself to be so incredibly uninformed and unable to speak in coherent sentences, as well as voicing some very extreme right-wing policy and personal views, there would be nothing there to lampoon. Her indecent behavior on the campaign trail in recent days indicates to me that any ridicule directed her way is richly deserved. Of course, there are some very stupid Americans who actually like her. A true sign of desperation on the part of the right-wing fringe, of whom Palin is representative.

Posted by: OHIOCITIZEN | October 7, 2008 9:01 PM | Report abuse

the Nazi's have their liars out now.

VOTE OBAMA and end the repression by the fascists.

And yes, socialize health care. WHO NEEDS AN INSURANCE COMPANY? THEY DONT ADD ANY VALUE.

If we can have socialized banks for the Republican millionaires, it is time to vote to have health care for children, education for adults who have been laid off, and make bridges and put people back to work, all around America.

Posted by: ottothewise | October 7, 2008 9:01 PM | Report abuse

McCain is toast. With the economy tanking with today’s Dow falling about 5 percent, or more than 500 points and both the technology-heavy Nasdaq and the Standard & Poor's 500-stock indexes down more than 5 percent. The American people are NOT interested in hearing smokescreen “character” shenanigans. Despite McCain’s desire to “change the page”, the economy will remains the central issue. McCain is trying to win all dirty; most likely, he will lose dirty.

Posted by: JJames081 | October 7, 2008 8:55 PM | Report abuse

37th&Dumbass: It has been a rare treat seeing you become more and more unhinged as time goes on.

I hope you enjoy the next eight years barking at the moon under an Obama presidency.

Posted by: bondjedi | October 7, 2008 8:54 PM | Report abuse

Nobama. Not qualified. Not worthy. Not American Presidential material. Not fully vetted.

Let the vetting of Obama finally begin.

It's been a year and half and too many unanswered questions remain.

Investigative journalists do your job!

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Posted by: TAH1 | October 7, 2008 8:54 PM | Report abuse

Dear 37thandOStreet,

Well it was a bigoted statement. That is a fact.

AND, Mr. Obama is qualified to be the president; read the constitution.

Now if you want to discuss people who are UNPREPARED to be president lets look at McCain’s VP choice, the soccer Mom.

Posted by: ojwbrgibdsaf | October 7, 2008 8:53 PM | Report abuse

Palin is a disaster. I am terrified of her potentially becoming VP.

Posted by: mattg251 | October 7, 2008 8:51 PM | Report abuse

"The Misogynyst mentality of MSNCB and CNN is now being directed at another woman, Sarah Palin. Shame on You CNN and MSNBC!"

Are you kidding me? This woman is in an election to become VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. She has done a total of three, that's right, three, interviews and they were disasters. She cannot name ONE Supreme Court decision, she cannot name ONE newspaper or magazine that she reads, and her foreign policy experience is based upon the fact that she can see Russia from Alaska.
If you're in the media what are you supposed to say to that? It's indefensible and makes McCain's Country First slogan a real joke.

Posted by: bretb | October 7, 2008 8:50 PM | Report abuse

Live blogging tonight's debate here:
http://www.leehernly.com/blog/?p=289

Posted by: leeh11281 | October 7, 2008 8:49 PM | Report abuse

Dear 37thandOStreet,
Who is Barry Obama?
Is he better than the erratic Mr. McCain?
Thanks

Posted by: ojwbrgibdsaf | October 7, 2008 8:47 PM | Report abuse

ojwbrgibdsaf


That is all the Obama people have - instead of actually addressing the issue at hand, the Obama people call people liars, bigots or racists.


It is a sick way to run a campaign.


Obama IS NOT QUALIFIED TO BE PRESIDENT


THAT IS NOT A RACIST OR BIGOTED STATEMENT IT IS A FACT


YOU ARE BEING IRRESPONSIBLE WITH THIS NATION BY SUPPORTING OBAMA


AND YOU ARE BEING A HOSTILE ANGRY LIBERAL FALSELY SAYING PEOPLE ARE BIGOTS FOR SPEAKING THE TRUTH.


OBAMA IS NOT QUALIFIED TO BE PRESIDENT.


PERIOD.

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Posted by: 37thandOStreet | October 7, 2008 8:46 PM | Report abuse


Another poster from the Obama campaign defending Assault over the blogs -

37andO alley scrawled:

This poster is now threatening other bloggers - what is wrong with the Obama people ????? Is this democracy Obama-style Is this how the angry liberals want to run the government?

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What threat? Sounds like a friendly invitation to me.

Posted by: wpost4112 | October 7, 2008 8:20 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: 37thandOStreet | October 7, 2008 8:46 PM | Report abuse

Wow. The RNC is active tonight!

Posted by: officermancuso | October 7, 2008 8:44 PM | Report abuse

ojwbrgibdsaf


That is all the Obama people have - instead of actually addressing the issue at hand, the Obama people call people liars, bigots or racists.


It is a sick way to run a campaign.

Obama IS NOT QUALIFIED TO BE PRESIDENT


THAT IS NOT A RACIST OR BIGOTED STATEMENT IT IS A FACT

YOU ARE BEING IRRESPONSIBLE WITH THIS NATION BY SUPPORTING OBAMA


AND YOU ARE BEING A HOSTILE ANGRY LIBERAL FALSELY SAYING PEOPLE ARE BIGOTS FOR SPEAKING THE TRUTH.

OBAMA IS NOT QUALIFIED TO BE PRESIDENT.


PERIOD.

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Posted by: 37thandOStreet | October 7, 2008 8:43 PM | Report abuse

As a Democrat who used to consider Fox News as a TV channel that presented the views from the Right and used to watch CNN and MSNBC because they covered the news in an impartial way. I now find "Shameful" that CNN and MSNBC have lost their professional integrity and have changed into a "Left Winged" biased media that initially demonstrated their MISOGYNYST and sexist rage by assassinating Hillary Clinton's campaign with their biased anti-women coverage.

The Misogynyst mentality of MSNCB and CNN is now being directed at another woman, Sarah Palin. Shame on You CNN and MSNBC!

As a Democrat who loves America and has an independent mind, I find shameful to find in this presidential election that the only TV channel that has a fair and non-bias news coverage is FOX News.......

Shame on You! MSNBC and CNN.
You have thrown away the professional ethical unbiased news coverage that America deserves....

Posted by: Manolete | October 7, 2008 8:40 PM | Report abuse

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http://www.myspace.com/37thandostreet


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Posted by: 37thandOStreet | October 7, 2008 8:40 PM | Report abuse

The person who equated a vote for Obama with, "some affirmative action social statement" is a bigot.

Posted by: ojwbrgibdsaf | October 7, 2008 8:37 PM | Report abuse

If Obama can come out strong and get McCain on the defensive I think the old guy will crack. It's been apparent from the last couple of weeks that he's getting close.

Posted by: bretb | October 7, 2008 8:30 PM | Report abuse


PS:

popasmoke, check out this month's "Rolling Stone" article on Mac, available online. It has no bloviating or opinionating or bias. It just lays out about 10 pages of meticulously sourced facts and let's the reader decide.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | October 7, 2008 7:59 PM | Report abuse

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Thank you. That was a very good read.
For others see link below. I doubt any Mccain supporters will likely want to read it, the truth can be hard. But if you are an Obama supporter you will like knowing you are on the right side. Not that you need to be told.

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/coverstory/make_believe_maverick_the_real_john_mccain

Posted by: popasmoke | October 7, 2008 8:29 PM | Report abuse

robthewsoncamb, please simply post the link rather than abuse this blog with the lengthy copy-and-paste.

Posted by: mark_in_austin | October 7, 2008 8:29 PM | Report abuse

SINCE THE MCCAIN CAMPAIGN THINK CHARACTER IS IMPORTANT WHAT KIND OF CHARACTER DOES MCCAIN/PALIN HAVE WHEN THEIR SUPPORTERS SHOUT "TERROIST, KILL HIM, TREASON," AT THIER RALLY'S? WHAT DOES THAT SAY ABOUT MCCAIN'S JUDGEMENT, CHARACTER, AND PERSONALITY, HAVING THIER SUPPORTERS SHOUT SUCH OBSCENE COMMENTS DURING THEIR RALLY'S INWHICH THEY EMBRACE?

Posted by: amosdefnails | October 7, 2008 8:27 PM | Report abuse

SINCE THE MCCAIN CAMPAIGN THINK CHARACTER IS IMPORTANT WHAT KIND OF CHARACTER DOES MCCAIN/PALIN HAVE WHEN THEIR SUPPORTERS SHOUT "TERROIST, KILL HIM, TREASON," AT THIER RALLY'S. WHAT DOES THAT SAY ABOUT MCCAIN'S JUDGEMENT, CHARACTER, AND PERSONALITY, HAVING SUPPORTERS THAT SHOUT OBSCENE COMMENTS DURING THEIR RALLY'S INWHICH THEY EMBRACE?

Posted by: amosdefnails | October 7, 2008 8:25 PM | Report abuse

someone wrote, "I am saying that the Obama supporters are irresponsible and reckless

They would rather make some affirmative action social statement than make sure the best person is running the country."

If George W. Bush is not an affirmative action program for rich capitalists who can't parse a sentence, I'm the Wizard of Oz.

Posted by: officermancuso | October 7, 2008 8:22 PM | Report abuse

37andO alley scrawled:

This poster is now threatening other bloggers - what is wrong with the Obama people ????? Is this democracy Obama-style Is this how the angry liberals want to run the government?

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What threat? Sounds like a friendly invitation to me.

Posted by: wpost4112 | October 7, 2008 8:20 PM | Report abuse

This is how the Obama supporters would like to get their way:


37thandOStreet, why don't you walk over to North Capitol and H streets. A couple of brothers want to have a word with you.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | October 7, 2008 8:04 PM

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Posted by: 37thandOStreet | October 7, 2008 8:19 PM | Report abuse


Mancuso


I am saying that the Obama supporters are irresponsible and reckless

They would rather make some affirmative action social statement than make sure the best person is running the country.


That is the truth.


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Posted by: 37thandOStreet | October 7, 2008 8:18 PM | Report abuse

Desperation by the McCain/Bush campaign.

This 'fear' tactic that they are using is truly 'home grown' terrorism.

We have been over these issues (even though Palin has only recently joined the rest of the lower 48 (welcome to the show).

Real solutions on the real issues: the economy

McCain & Palin do not have any real answers so let's go to 'smearing'. Bush did it well in 2004 & even though McCain said (in May) he wouldn't do it, his campaign is truly a copy of the Bush campaign.

We don't need another Bush term. We need real answers to real problems.

Posted by: ssanford00 | October 7, 2008 8:17 PM | Report abuse


This poster is now threatening other bloggers - what is wrong with the Obama people ????? Is this democracy Obama-style Is this how the angry liberals want to run the government?


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37thandOStreet, why don't you walk over to North Capitol and H streets. A couple of brothers want to have a word with you.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | October 7, 2008 8:04 PM

Posted by: 37thandOStreet | October 7, 2008 8:16 PM | Report abuse

37'th, if I'm irresponsible for voting for Obama, I'd hate to think what adjective would describe folks who voted (as I did) for Dubya.

Posted by: officermancuso | October 7, 2008 8:15 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: TAH1 | October 7, 2008 8:14 PM | Report abuse

The ugliness we've seen from the McCain-Palin campaign these past few days is staggering to me. Absolutely reprehensible and utterly irresponsible for Palin and McCain to be going along this route. I think they went way past the point of unpatriotic this week. Makes me sick to my stomach. I can't believe that our national politics has stooped this low... to paint the other candidate as a terrorist/terrorist supporter. McCain has destroyed his legacy in my mind. Nothing heroic left of the man. I don't believe he's fit to be a senator, and Palin should never hold another office, either.

Posted by: DogBitez | October 7, 2008 8:13 PM | Report abuse


"officermancuso"


The truth is you are being extremely irresponsible voting for someone with no economic or business experience - Obama is the MOST DIVISIVE POLTICIAN IN DECADES WITH REV WRIGHT AND WILLIAM AYERS AND ALL HIS FALSE CLAIMS OF BEING RACIALLY OFFENDED BY INNOCENT REMARKS.


OBAMA IS HURTING THE BLACK COMMUNITY AND INCREASING RACIAL DIVISIONS.


OBAMA IS A FRAUD AND THAT DOES NOT UNITE THIS COUNTRY.

YOU ARE A DECEPTIVE IRRESPONSIBLE PERSON PRETENDING TO COME OFF AS AN OFFICER.

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Posted by: 37thandOStreet | October 7, 2008 8:11 PM | Report abuse

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http://www.myspace.com/37thandostreet


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Posted by: 37thandOStreet | October 7, 2008 8:07 PM | Report abuse

I'll be on Twitter as "OfficerMancuso", in case anyone needs help being put to sleep ;)

Posted by: officermancuso | October 7, 2008 8:05 PM | Report abuse

37thandOStreet, why don't you walk over to North Capitol and H streets. A couple of brothers want to have a word with you.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | October 7, 2008 8:04 PM | Report abuse

Live blogging tonight's debate here:
http://www.leehernly.com/blog/?p=289

Posted by: leeh11281 | October 7, 2008 8:01 PM | Report abuse

I've just seen the value of my investments go down in flames.

McCain's offering to help me by cutting taxes on people who make 10 times more than I do.

Who is the real Senator McCain?
The one who swears he'll veto pork spending or the one plans to give more of my money to the rich?

Posted by: JohnQuimby | October 7, 2008 7:59 PM | Report abuse

PS:

popasmoke, check out this month's "Rolling Stone" article on Mac, available online. It has no bloviating or opinionating or bias. It just lays out about 10 pages of meticulously sourced facts and let's the reader decide.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | October 7, 2008 7:59 PM | Report abuse

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http://www.myspace.com/37thandostreet


Bookmark it now !!!!


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Voted One Of The Nation's Top 5 Blogs For The Election of 2008


http://www.myspace.com/37thandostreet


Bookmark it now !!!!


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Posted by: 37thandOStreet | October 7, 2008 7:58 PM | Report abuse

Obama represents hope that this nation can overcome the divisions republicans have exploited in the course of impoverishing it.

Got it, 37thandOStreet?

Posted by: officermancuso | October 7, 2008 7:58 PM | Report abuse

McCAIN FOR PRESIDENT:

This video should be running AS A National TV AD

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cb0osbXJwIw

This video should be running AS A National TV AD

Posted by: fortey | October 7, 2008 7:58 PM | Report abuse


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DEMOCRATIC FINGERPRINTS ARE ALL OVER THIS ECONOMIC CRISIS - THE MEDIA IS ASLEEP AT THE WHEEL AGAIN


Top 3 Recipients of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac Campaign Contributions, 1989-2008


Dodd, Chris . . $165,400


Obama, Barack . . $126,349


Kerry, John . . $111,000

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Posted by: 37thandOStreet | October 7, 2008 7:58 PM | Report abuse

Watch the so-called objective Katie Couric mock Sarah Palin in the streets of NYC:

http://www.mccain08-hillary2012.blogspot.com/

Posted by: dcpsychic | October 7, 2008 7:57 PM | Report abuse


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DEMOCRATIC FINGERPRINTS ARE ALL OVER THIS ECONOMIC CRISIS - THE MEDIA IS ASLEEP AT THE WHEEL AGAIN


Top 3 Recipients of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac Campaign Contributions, 1989-2008


Dodd, Chris . . $ 165,400.00


Obama, Barack . . $ 126,349.00


Kerry, John . . $ 111,000.00

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Posted by: 37thandOStreet | October 7, 2008 7:55 PM | Report abuse

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"officermancuso"


You are pretty shameful if you are going to RISK the future of this nation on an inexperienced person whose only economic or business experience is buying cocaine.


Seriously.


You can exercise your Constitutional Vote anyway you would like however you can not escape how IRRESPONSIBLE a vote for Barry Obama is.

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Posted by: 37thandOStreet | October 7, 2008 7:54 PM | Report abuse

This debate should be pretty much irrelevant: O is at 360+ in all the electoral polls, ahead in virtually every battleground state (see Daily Kos today for the state-by-state numbers, they are incredible), and in play in states like VA and NC should be Mac's. The major national polls, Daily Kos, CNN, Gallup show O up 9-11. In fact, it is hard to figure out how Mac gets to 270, without winning states like VA, MI, and OH that he's not going to win.

Clearly the ONLY reason this is still competitive is the r card, introduced through the tired coding of Rev. Wright, Ayers, Resko, fistbumps, O's middle name, etc., etc. If the media wouldn't play along with this junk and call it out as the sewage it is, it would have no chance of working. But incredibly they give it print space and airtime, while ignoring things like Mrs. P's incitements to riot at campaign events. However, this turns out the media, especially George (Do you think Rev. Wright loves America as much as you do?)Stephanopoulos, Peggy (Don't pay attention to me directly contradicting on a TV "hot mike" what I just wrote yesterday) Noonan, and Gwen Awf-, er, Ifill (the moderator who forgot to moderate), are the big losers.

For those in early-voting states like OH, do not whine on Nov 5 that you didn't vote because you couldn't take leave, you couldn't get a ride to the polls, the machine was broken, the line was too long, "the Man" scared me away, blah, blah, blah. No excuse. No excuse. Shame on you. VOTE.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | October 7, 2008 7:54 PM | Report abuse


McCAIN FOR PRESIDENT

Because it's all here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cb0osbXJwIw

Please watch and make yourself an opinion.

Posted by: fortey | October 7, 2008 7:54 PM | Report abuse

McCAIN FOR PRESIDENT

Because it's all here.

Please watch and make yourself an opinion.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cb0osbXJwIw

Posted by: fortey | October 7, 2008 7:53 PM | Report abuse


JOHN MCCAIN LEADER OR MADMAN
YOU BE THE JUDGE.

WASHINGTON — Senator John McCain arrived late at his Senate office on the morning of Sept. 11, 2001, just after the first plane hit the World Trade Center. “This is war,” he murmured to his aides. The sound of scrambling fighter planes rattled the windows, sending a tremor of panic through the room.


Erik Jacobs for The New York Times
John McCain said he had consulted Henry A. Kissinger on foreign policy before and after the Sept. 11 attacks.

Within hours, Mr. McCain, the Vietnam War hero and famed straight talker of the 2000 Republican primary, had taken on a new role: the leading advocate of taking the American retaliation against Al Qaeda far beyond Afghanistan. In a marathon of television and radio appearances, Mr. McCain recited a short list of other countries said to support terrorism, invariably including Iraq, Iran and Syria.

“There is a system out there or network, and that network is going to have to be attacked,” Mr. McCain said the next morning on ABC News. “It isn’t just Afghanistan,” he added, on MSNBC. “I don’t think if you got bin Laden tomorrow that the threat has disappeared,” he said on CBS, pointing toward other countries in the Middle East.

Within a month he made clear his priority. “Very obviously Iraq is the first country,” he declared on CNN. By Jan. 2, Mr. McCain was on the aircraft carrier Theodore Roosevelt in the Arabian Sea, yelling to a crowd of sailors and airmen: “Next up, Baghdad!”

Now, as Mr. McCain prepares to accept the Republican presidential nomination, his response to the attacks of Sept. 11 opens a window onto how he might approach the gravest responsibilities of a potential commander in chief. Like many, he immediately recalibrated his assessment of the unseen risks to America’s security. But he also began to suggest that he saw a new “opportunity” to deter other potential foes by punishing not only Al Qaeda but also Iraq.

“Just as Sept. 11 revolutionized our resolve to defeat our enemies, so has it brought into focus the opportunities we now have to secure and expand our freedom,” Mr. McCain told a NATO conference in Munich in early 2002, urging the Europeans to join what he portrayed as an all but certain assault on Saddam Hussein. “A better world is already emerging from the rubble.”

To his admirers, Mr. McCain’s tough response to Sept. 11 is at the heart of his appeal. They argue that he displayed the same decisiveness again last week in his swift calls to penalize Russia for its incursion into Georgia, in part by sending peacekeepers to police its border.

His critics charge that the emotion of Sept. 11 overwhelmed his former cool-eyed caution about deploying American troops without a clear national interest and a well-defined exit, turning him into a tool of the Bush administration in its push for a war to transform the region.

“He has the personality of a fighter pilot: when somebody stings you, you want to strike out,” said retired Gen. John H. Johns, a former friend and supporter of Mr. McCain who turned against him over the Iraq war. “Just like the American people, his reaction was: show me somebody to hit.”

Whether through ideology or instinct, though, Mr. McCain began making his case for invading Iraq to the public more than six months before the White House began to do the same. He drew on principles he learned growing up in a military family and on conclusions he formed as a prisoner in North Vietnam. He also returned to a conviction about “the common identity” of dangerous autocracies as far-flung as Serbia and North Korea that he had developed consulting with hawkish foreign policy thinkers to help sharpen the themes of his 2000 presidential campaign.

While pushing to take on Saddam Hussein, Mr. McCain also made arguments and statements that he may no longer wish to recall. He lauded the war planners he would later criticize, including Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld and Vice President Dick Cheney. (Mr. McCain even volunteered that he would have given the same job to Mr. Cheney.) He urged support for the later-discredited Iraqi exile Ahmad Chalabi’s opposition group, the Iraqi National Congress, and echoed some of its suspect accusations in the national media. And he advanced misleading assertions not only about Mr. Hussein’s supposed weapons programs but also about his possible ties to international terrorists, Al Qaeda and the Sept. 11 attacks.

Five years after the invasion of Iraq, Mr. McCain’s supporters note that he became an early critic of the administration’s execution of the occupation, and they credit him with pushing the troop “surge” that helped bring stability. Mr. McCain, though, stands by his support for the war and expresses no regrets about his advocacy.

In written answers to questions, he blamed “Iraq’s opacity under Saddam” for any misleading remarks he made about the peril it posed.

The Sept. 11 attacks “demonstrated the grave threat posed by a hostile regime, possessing weapons of mass destruction, and with reported ties to terrorists,” Mr. McCain wrote in an e-mail message on Friday. Given Mr. Hussein’s history of pursuing illegal weapons and his avowed hostility to the United States, “his regime posed a threat we had to take seriously.” The attacks were still a reminder, Mr. McCain added, of the importance of international action “to prevent outlaw states — like Iran today — from developing weapons of mass destruction.”

Formative Years

Mr. McCain has been debating questions about the use of military force far longer than most. He grew up in a family that had sent a son to every American war since 1776, and international relations were a staple of the McCain family dinner table. Mr. McCain grew up listening to his father, Adm. John S. McCain Jr., deliver lectures on “The Four Ocean Navy and the Soviet Threat,” closing with a slide of an image he considered the ultimate factor in the balance of power: a soldier marching through a rice paddy with a rifle at his shoulder.

“To quote Sherman, war is all hell and we need to fight it out and get it over with and that is when the killing stops,” recalled Joe McCain, Senator McCain’s younger brother.

Vietnam, for Senator McCain, reinforced those lessons. He has often said he blamed the Johnson administration’s pause in bombing for prolonging the war, and he credited President Richard M. Nixon’s renewed attacks with securing his release from a North Vietnamese prison. He has made the principle that the exercise of military power sets the bargaining table for international relations a consistent theme of his career ever since, and in his 2002 memoir he wrote that one of his lifelong convictions was “the imperative that American power never retreat in response to an inferior adversary’s provocation.”


But Mr. McCain also took away from Vietnam a second, restraining lesson: the necessity for broad domestic support for any military action. For years he opposed a string of interventions — in Lebanon, Haiti, Somalia, and, for a time, the Balkans — on the grounds that the public would balk at the loss of life without clear national interests. “The Vietnam thing,” he recently said.

In the late 1990s, however, while he was beginning to consider his 2000 presidential race, he started rebalancing his view of the needs to project American strength and to sustain public support. The 1995 massacre of 5,000 unarmed Bosnian Muslims at Srebrenica under NATO’s watch struck at his conscience, he has said, and in addition to America’s strategic national interests — in that case, the future and credibility of NATO — Mr. McCain began to speak more expansively about America’s moral obligations as the only remaining superpower.

His aides say he later described the American air strikes in Bosnia in 1996 and in Kosovo in 1999 as a parable of political leadership: Mr. McCain, Senator Bob Dole and others had rallied Congressional support for the strikes despite widespread public opposition, then watched approval soar after the intervention helped to bring peace.

“Americans elect their leaders to make these kinds of judgments,” Mr. McCain said in the e-mail message.

It was during the Balkan wars that Mr. McCain and his advisers read a 1997 article on the Wall Street Journal editorial page by William Kristol and David Brooks of The Weekly Standard — both now Op-Ed page columnists at The New York Times — promoting the idea of “national greatness” conservatism, defined by a more activist agenda at home and a more muscular role in the world.

“I wouldn’t call it a ‘eureka’ moment, but there was a sense that this is where we are headed and this is what we are trying to articulate and they have already done a lot of the work,” said John Weaver, a former McCain political adviser. “And, quite frankly, from a crass political point of view, we were in the making-friends business. The Weekly Standard represented a part of the primary electorate that we could get.”

Soon Mr. McCain and his aides were consulting regularly with the circle of hawkish foreign policy thinkers sometimes referred to as neoconservatives — including Mr. Kristol, Robert Kagan and Randy Scheunemann, a former aide to Mr. Dole who became a McCain campaign adviser — to develop the senator’s foreign policy ideas and instincts into the broad themes of a presidential campaign. (In his e-mail message, Mr. McCain noted that he had also consulted with friends like Henry A. Kissinger, known for a narrower view of American interests.)

One result was a series of speeches in which Mr. McCain called for “rogue state rollback.” He argued that disparate regional troublemakers, including Iraq, North Korea and Serbia, bore a common stamp: they were all autocracies. And as such, he contended, they were more likely to export terrorism, spread dangerous weapons, or start ethnic conflicts. In an early outline of what would become his initial response to the Sept. 11 attacks, Mr. McCain argued that “swift and sure” retribution against any one of the rogue states was an essential deterrent to any of the others. But Mr. McCain’s advisers and aides say his “rogue state” speeches stopped short of the most sweeping international agenda put forth by Mr. Kristol, Mr. Kagan and their allies. Mr. McCain explicitly disavowed direct military action merely to advance American values, foreswearing any “global crusade” of interventions in favor of relying on covert and financial support for internal opposition groups.

As an example, he could point to his 1998 sponsorship of the Iraqi Liberation Act, which sought to direct nearly $100 million to Iraqis who hoped to overthrow Saddam Hussein. The bill, signed by President Bill Clinton, also endorsed the ouster of Mr. Hussein.

Mr. McCain said then that he doubted the United States could muster the political will to use ground troops to remove the Iraqi dictator any time soon. “It was much easier when Saddam Hussein was occupying Kuwait and threatening Saudi Arabia,” the senator told Fox News in November 1998. “We’d have to convince the American people that it’s worth again the sacrifice of American lives, because that would also be part of the price.”

Hard Calls

Mr. McCain spent the afternoon of Sept. 11 in a young aide’s studio apartment near the Capitol. There was no cable television, nothing but water in the kitchen, and the hallway reminded him of an old boxing gym. Evacuated from his office but stranded by traffic, he could not resist imagining himself at the other end of Pennsylvania Avenue. “There are not enough Secret Service agents in the world to keep me away from Washington and New York at a time like this,” Mr. McCain told an adviser.


Over the next days and weeks, however, Mr. McCain became almost as visible as he would have been as president. Broadcasters rushed to him as a patriotic icon and reassuring voice, and for weeks he was ubiquitous on the morning news programs, Sunday talk shows, cable news networks, and even late-night comedy shows.

In the spotlight, he pushed rogue state rollback one step further, arguing that the United States should go on the offensive as a warning to any other country that might condone such an attack. “These networks are well-embedded in some of these countries,” Mr. McCain said on Sept. 12, listing Iraq, Iran and Syria as potential targets of United States pressure. “We’re going to have to prove to them that we are very serious, and the price that they will pay will not only be for punishment but also deterrence.”

Although he had campaigned for President Bush during the 2000 general election, he was still largely frozen out of the White House because of animosities left over from the Republican primary. But after Mr. Bush declared he would hold responsible any country condoning terrorism, Mr. McCain called his leadership “magnificent” and his national security team the strongest “that has ever been assembled.” A few weeks later, Larry King of CNN asked whether he would have named Mr. Rumsfeld and Colin L. Powell to a McCain cabinet. “Oh, yes, and Cheney,” Mr. McCain answered, saying he, too, would have offered Mr. Cheney the vice presidency.

Even during the heat of the war in Afghanistan, Mr. McCain kept an eye on Iraq. To Jay Leno in mid-September, Mr. McCain said he believed “some other countries” had assisted Osama bin Laden, going on to suggest Iraq, Syria and Iran as potential suspects. In October 2001, when an Op-Ed page column in The New York Times speculated that Iraq, Russia or some other country might bear responsibility for that month’s anthrax mailings, Mr. McCain interrupted a question about Afghanistan from David Letterman on that night’s “Late Show.” “The second phase is Iraq,” Mr. McCain said, adding, “Some of this anthrax may — and I emphasize may — have come from Iraq.” (The Federal Bureau of Investigation says it came from a federal government laboratory in Maryland.) By October, United States and foreign intelligence agencies had said publicly that they doubted any cooperation between Mr. Hussein and Al Qaeda, noting Al Qaeda’s opposition to such secular nationalists. American intelligence officials soon declared that Mr. Hussein had not supported international terrorism for nearly a decade.

But when the Czech government said that before the attacks, one of the 9/11 hijackers had met in Prague with an Iraqi intelligence official, Mr. McCain seized the report as something close to a smoking gun. “The evidence is very clear,” he said three days later, in an Oct. 29 television interview. (Intelligence agencies quickly cast doubt on the meeting.)

Frustrated by the dearth of American intelligence about Iraq, Mr. McCain’s aides say, he had long sought to learn as much as he could from Iraqi opposition figures in exile, including Mr. Chalabi of the Iraqi National Congress. Over the years, Mr. McCain often urged support for the group, saying it had “significant support, in my view, inside Iraq.”

After Sept. 11, Mr. Chalabi’s group said an Iraqi emissary had once met with Osama bin Laden, and brought forward two Iraqi defectors who described terrorist training camps and biological weapons efforts. At times, Mr. McCain seemed to echo their accusations, citing the “two defectors” in a television interview and attesting to “credible reports of involvement between Iraqi administration officials, Iraqi officials and the terrorists.”

Growing Impatient

But United States intelligence officials had doubts about Mr. Chalabi at the time and have since discredited his group. In 2006, Mr. McCain acknowledged to The New Republic that he had been “too enamored with the I.N.C.” In his e-mail message, though, he said he never relied on the group for information about Iraq’s weapons program.

At a European security conference in February 2002, when the Bush administration still publicly maintained that it had made no decision about moving against Iraq, Mr. McCain described an invasion as all but certain. “A terrorist resides in Baghdad,” he said, adding, “A day of reckoning is approaching.”

Regime change in Iraq in addition to Afghanistan, he argued, would compel other sponsors of terrorism to mend their ways, “accomplishing by example what we would otherwise have to pursue through force of arms.”

Finally, as American troops massed in the Persian Gulf in early 2003, Mr. McCain grew impatient, his aides say, concerned that the White House was failing to act as the hot desert summer neared. Waiting, he warned in a speech in Washington, risked squandering the public and international support aroused by Sept. 11. “Does anyone really believe that the world’s will to contain Saddam won’t eventually collapse as utterly as it did in the 1990s?” Mr. McCain asked.

In retrospect, some of Mr. McCain’s critics now accuse him of looking for a pretext to justify the war. “McCain was hell-bent for leather: ‘Saddam Hussein is a bad guy, we have got to teach him, let’s send a message to the other people in the Middle East,’ ” said Senator John Kerry, Democrat of Massachusetts.

But Mr. McCain, in his e-mail message, said the reason he had supported the war was the evolving threat from Mr. Hussein.

“I believe voters elect their leaders based on their experience and judgment — their ability to make hard calls, for instance, on matters of war and peace,” he wrote. “It’s important to get them right.”

Posted by: popasmoke | October 7, 2008 7:48 PM | Report abuse

This one's going to get really ugly before it's over. Obama's going to win. He's going to win with the votes of the descendants of slaves and the votes of white people whose ancestors came to this country before 1700.

Every now and then history offers you a moment that makes you want to offer a standing ovation.

Posted by: officermancuso | October 7, 2008 7:47 PM | Report abuse

If this Mccain shows up tonight it will be funny. He looks like a little troll as it is.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtx97MR08Cg&feature=related

Posted by: popasmoke | October 7, 2008 7:46 PM | Report abuse

Republicans have had control of the White House for the last 8 years and Congress 6 of the last 8.

We are not in a worldwide economic crisis and McCain wants to "turn the page on the economy" because it is an uncomfortable topic and, what his campaign terms, a "no winner" for him.

What happened to "Country First"? Has it turned into McCain First and Country whenever I can get around to it?

If change is what American is in need of, the GOP ain't it.

Smears will turn the American public in economic crisis completely off.

If you haven't checked your 401K yet, YOU SHOULD!!! Mine is on the decline. I am young enough to absorb it, but there are many American's who aren't.

Posted by: concernedaboutdc | October 7, 2008 7:45 PM | Report abuse

"officermancuso"


You are pretty shameful if you are going to RISK the future of this nation on an inexperienced person whose only economic or business experience is buying cocaine.


Seriously.


You can exercise your Constitutional Vote anyway you would like however you can not escape how IRRESPONSIBLE a vote for Barry Obama is.


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Posted by: 37thandOStreet | October 7, 2008 7:44 PM | Report abuse

parkerfl1 asked, "Does McCain lose because he's angry and combative or win because he's 'full of vigor' and 'ready to challenge Obama on any topic'?"

Depends on how deep you're located in the backwoods of Alabama, and how White you are.

Posted by: officermancuso | October 7, 2008 7:42 PM | Report abuse

How many dead Iraqis does it take for an illiterate racist to fetch up some manhood after nineteen Saudis attacked us? Manhood can prove elusive for lying, child-burning oil thieves!!

Posted by: rhyer | October 7, 2008 7:41 PM | Report abuse

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DEMOCRATIC FINGERPRINTS ARE ALL OVER THIS ECONOMIC CRISIS - THE MEDIA IS ASLEEP AT THE WHEEL AGAIN


Top 3 Recipients of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac Campaign Contributions, 1989-2008


Dodd, Chris . . $ 165,400.00


Obama, Barack . . $ 126,349.00


Kerry, John . . $ 111,000.00

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Posted by: 37thandOStreet | October 7, 2008 7:40 PM | Report abuse

wembakoy wrote:

"I made a nice video for Barack Obama at:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MBrFWuKkWQ

"Obama 2008. God bless USA."

I would like to call attention to this post. If you view the link, you see that it's "pro-McCain". Pretty shameful stuff for any citizen of the USA to be posting.

Posted by: officermancuso | October 7, 2008 7:39 PM | Report abuse

Does McCain lose because he's angry and combative or win because he's "full of vigor" and "ready to challenge Obama on any topic"?

http://www.political-buzz.com/

Posted by: parkerfl1 | October 7, 2008 7:37 PM | Report abuse

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DEMOCRATIC FINGERPRINTS ARE ALL OVER THIS ECONOMIC CRISIS - THE MEDIA IS ASLEEP AT THE WHEEL AGAIN

Top 3 Recipients of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac Campaign Contributions, 1989-2008

Dodd, Chris $165,400

Obama, Barack $126,349

Kerry, John $111,000


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Posted by: 37thandOStreet | October 7, 2008 7:36 PM | Report abuse

McMoron is a 72-year ole racist idiot chemically bombing a defenseless oil reserve for five years to control their oil those pesky coloreds won't sign over to whitey. If you don't think calling dead Iraqis barbarians and a host of other names while waving your crosses above their bloody heads isn't psychotic you're mistaken. McMoron is Davey from the Navy who crashed three planes and had an admiral granddaddy. His ten billion a month set the barbarians on fire fund is being revoked Rednecks so since you won't pay for your oil gangbang for Jesus you can go steal it yourself. Ten billion a month for the Jesus Freaks to steal oil goes back in the pot. Stop the insanity. Stop the Republicans once and for all!

Posted by: rhyer | October 7, 2008 7:35 PM | Report abuse


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DEMOCRATIC FINGERPRINTS ARE ALL OVER THIS ECONOMIC CRISIS - THE MEDIA IS ASLEEP AT THE WHEEL AGAIN

Top 3 Recipients of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac Campaign Contributions, 1989-2008

Dodd, Chris $165,400 $48,500 $116,900


Obama, Barack $126,349 $6,000 $120,349


Kerry, John $111,000 $2,000 $109,000


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Posted by: 37thandOStreet | October 7, 2008 7:33 PM | Report abuse

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http://www.myspace.com/37thandostreet


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Posted by: 37thandOStreet | October 7, 2008 7:27 PM | Report abuse

I made a nice video for Barack Obama at:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MBrFWuKkWQ

Obama 2008. God bless USA.

Posted by: wembakoy | October 7, 2008 7:20 PM | Report abuse

This is from Rolling Stone Mag...Read what the BIG crying P U S S Y McCain did for the US while a POW.


Once the Vietnamese realized they had captured the man they called the "crown prince," they had every motivation to keep McCain alive. His value as a propaganda tool and bargaining chip was far greater than any military intelligence he could provide, and McCain knew it. "It was hard not to see how pleased the Vietnamese were to have captured an admiral's son," he writes, "and I knew that my father's identity was directly related to my survival." But during the course of his medical treatment, McCain followed through on his offer of military information. Only two weeks after his capture, the North Vietnamese press issued a report — picked up by The New York Times — in which McCain was quoted as saying that the war was "moving to the advantage of North Vietnam and the United States appears to be isolated." He also provided the name of his ship, the number of raids he had flown, his squadron number and the target of his final raid.

President M HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Imagine what he would tell the Osama,
here is the key to the white house,
please don't hurt me I am a son of a hard working Admiral...I have never done anything but tell people who my daddy
was.....NOT A PRESIDENT!!! JUST A SAD
LIAR!!!!

Posted by: 1-20-09 | October 7, 2008 7:20 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: ex-obama | October 7, 2008 7:18 PM | Report abuse

Those raids on ACORN kinda remind me of William Rehnquist's confirmation hearings. He'd been very active in preventing minority voters in Arizona from making it to the polls.

Posted by: officermancuso | October 7, 2008 7:16 PM | Report abuse

*hardcover*

Posted by: officermancuso | October 7, 2008 7:14 PM | Report abuse

Washington Post Article on ACORN getting raided

By Mary Pat Flaherty
Nevada state officials on Tuesday morning raided the Las Vegas office of ACORN as part of an investigation into alleged voter fraud by the organization which conducts voter registration drives nationally in its work with low-income communities.

About seven agents from the offices of the Nevada Secretary of State and Attorney General served a search warrant and removed boxes and computers after being admitted by the landlord, said Bob Walsh, spokesman for Secretary of State Ross Miller. No ACORN staff was present during the raid, he said. Walsh would not describe what prompted the search.

Charles Jackson, a national spokesman for ACORN, said the group would have a response later Tuesday. ACORN stands for the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now.

In July, the two Nevada state agencies involved in the raid, along with the FBI and U.S. Attorney's Office for Nevada, formed a task force to target voter registration and election fraud and complaints over voter registration practices, potential voter fraud, and enforcement of laws regarding voter intimidation. The federal agents were not part of Tuesday's search, Walsh said.

ACORN's Las Vegas office, Walsh said, registers voters mainly in Clark County.

Registration drives conducted by ACORN in several states are under scrutiny by local elections officials for the accuracy of cards gathered by its workers.

The group also has been the object of heated denunciations from the Republican National Committee and the McCain campaign, which contend the group is attempting to overwhelm election officials with new registrations that are carelessly gathered and would enable unqualified voters to get on the rolls.

"It is very difficult to ascribe any other motive to the activities of ACORN other than to swamp the system with registrations cards" that range from illegible to being drawn from names from telephone listings or other public directories, said RNC Chief Counsel Sean Cairncross. Cairncross spoke during a telephone press conference on another ACORN voter drive in northwest Indiana that local news accounts report is under review by elections officers.

The ACORN drives, he said, "point to a lack of control in this organization" and "a willingness to go out and do this relentlessly."

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Posted by: 37thandOStreet | October 7, 2008 7:13 PM | Report abuse

37'th and O, I'm fond of Catholicism, Jesuits, great bookstores, fish sandwiches, and repentant republicans.

I'm thinking that the day after the election you could buy me a nice Thomas Merton hardover and a decent fried fish sandwich if I show up on your doorstep.

Posted by: officermancuso | October 7, 2008 7:12 PM | Report abuse


To all concerned, The U.S. of A. is in a World of hurt . We own a debt so large even our grandbabies will be born with debt. If we vote for Obama, liberals, abortions, taxes, no prayer in schools, no guns to the honest home owner…..Then if we vote Mc Cain, its our sons and daughters might not make it home by Christmas if in the service . No pork, no pork ,like that makes all the difference.. Our taxes will be raised any way you look at it. Mc cain or Obama. Then they call each other liars they put out commercials that insult each other… It is so sad. A house divided will not stand .Not one of them seems to have honor in their campaign How about the concept offffff “Peace”<<<<
— Barrack

Posted by: Barrack_007 | October 7, 2008 7:11 PM | Report abuse

Nice MySpace page, 37th and O.

Your friends seem to be half right wingnuts, and half pornstars.

Oh, and Chris Cizzila.

Posted by: mikeinmidland | October 7, 2008 7:11 PM | Report abuse

Of the two candidates for President, one has experience as a terrorist, murdering innocent civilians, killing them with high explosive bombs. The other does not. Which candicate has better morals? Surely it's the one who has not practiced terrorism in any form.
It is inconceivable McCain did not realise he was murdering civilians. He should spend his remaining years in Viet Nam trying to make amends for his criminal behavior.

Posted by: leonfilac2 | October 7, 2008 7:09 PM | Report abuse

Before you watch the debate, take two minutes to read this about the debate. Whether you're for McCain or Obama, hopefully it will put you in a good mood for the event. Enjoy.

http://writingfrontier.com/2008/10/04/thats-not-debatable/

Posted by: jheubusch | October 7, 2008 7:03 PM | Report abuse

There will be less moderator control over crowd reaction in "town hall" format than in recent debates.

Look for anyone striking a low blow before a certified neutral audience to hear some negative crowd reaction.

Posted by: officermancuso | October 7, 2008 7:03 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: 37thandOStreet | October 7, 2008 7:02 PM | Report abuse

Volcano Boy will spew the blood of a million dead Iraqis over every biped in the audience for Jesus and the American Way. What does a war criminal tell America? McMoron already told you he's killing your Bubba Junior for oil contracts and you're soooooooooooooo stupid you just say okey dokey. Volcano Boy said he hopes he doesn't have to go back to the Mideast he hasn't left to murder mo colored chillen for Ray Hunt oil contracts, BUBBA?? WHO IS STUPID ENOUGH TO SLIT THE THROAT OF THEIR OWN SONS FOR AN OIL CONTRACT, BUBBA? I'm a Vietnam War Air Force veteran and we're taking your ten billion a month set the coloreds on fire fund and turn it into windmills, you NEANDERTHALIC PARASITIC OIL THIEVING MAGGOTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!BUBBA!

Posted by: rhyer | October 7, 2008 6:56 PM | Report abuse

BIGGEST KNOCK OUT PUNCH WILL ULTIMATELY BE DELIVERED BY SARAH PALIN ON JOHN MCCAIN

Today Palin launched a bashing attack on Joe Biden, as he was attending the funeral of his wife's mother, who he was very close to. I don't think we have ever seen a monster like Sarah Palin in modern politics in who knows how long. At least not on the world stage. I have seen some really bad stuff in local politics but what we are seeing with Palin is truly shocking and she seems to top herself everyday.

She may single handedly turn this into a landslide for Obama. When her name is mentioned in public people don't just dislike her, they hate her. We were in a Wallgreens today and my wife had on an Obama shirt. As we were in line people began talking about politics and what they had to say was almost over the top. Once one lady said she didn't like Palin all hel& broke loose. They began tearing Palin apart. This was true hate. It takes a lot to create this kind hate in just everyday people but Palin has sure done it.

Posted by: popasmoke | October 7, 2008 6:47 PM | Report abuse

From:
Head of State
http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/10/fear-and-loathing-in-town-hall.html

Tuesday, October 07, 2008
Fear and Loathing in the Town Hall: A Predictive Fantasy

(The camera looks at the hall from above, into the hall, from the POV of the stage. Red meat has been hung from the walls and rafters, along with dollar bills which, upon closer inspection, are Monopoly money.

The crowd is seated. They are strangely quiet. Their manner is that between those who are waiting for their instructions, post-op surgical recoverees, and post-war survivors. They are slightly slumped, in the same posture.

The candidates enter from opposite sides of the rear of the stage and walk to their podiums. The crowd rises as one and cheers with a loud, aggressive fervor reflective of their desperation.
Obama is standing tall in stride, looking a bit overcome by the experience, although genuine. McCain is smiling--his cheerful public grimace, although there is some genuine pleasure. His eyes have the slightest glaze of a gradually oncoming fog.)

MODERATOR: Tonight is a different format--one where you, the public, can ask your questions directly to the candidates. None of the questions have been screened in advance, and the candidates have been given no advance notice of what the questions, or who the questioners, might be. And with that, we begin. Our first question:

CITIZEN 1: My name is Jan, I'm from Murfreesboro? I've been watching the news, and I'm scared. I can't say that I've listened much about the stock market before? But I know that it's going down, and that's bad. I don't know what's going to happen to my job, or my house, or my kids. My question is for Mr. McCain? What will you do to help us understand what is going on, and to make it clear just what you will do about it?

(Crowd applauds vigourously as Jan sits down with a bit of embarassment).

MCCAIN: (Holding the top of the rostrum with both hands and smiling): Well, first, I want to welcome each of you here tonight. You know, I know what each of you are feeling. I think that each of you must be scared--as I am, of not verifying myself in my father's and my grandfather's eyes. But, that's not so important today--or, at least saying it isn't. What is most important is to appear that I understand an economy that just months ago I said that I had little understanding of at all. I want to win. I need it, frankly, as a way of overcoming my own personal horrors and demons, of overcoming the anger that was bestowed and thrust, unwillingly, upon me. And that's why I'm still willing, even as the sharpest edges of mental function fade, to propel myself through this mass of insult. I understand how to respond to insult. With anger. And impulse. And that's what I'll bring to the White House, come January of 2009.

(Crowd applauds vigorously)

MODERATOR: The next question is for Senator Obama.

CITIZEN 2: Thanks. My name is Ross, from Shreveport. First-time caller, long-time listener. My question is: Senator Obama, it's not an error that you were given the middle name "Barack". We know that that is the same name of the murderous. Communist leader of Iran--and that's no accident. (A slight murmur from the crowd. The moderator looks vaguely stunned, but does not interrupt). Now, when you were going to Russia, with Bill Ayers, and dodging the draft--just like William Jefferson Clinton--(speaking more quickly now, more aggressively, turning to the crowd)--why weren't you here at home, saving our banks from the Liberals and the Socialists who want to take our money away from us and just give it to the terrorists?

SARAH PALIN: (Poking her head out from the wings, with a big smile): You betcha'!

(She withdraws).

OBAMA: Well. First of all, I also want to welcome you all here tonight. You know, I know that this is a difficult time. Many of you are worried about your jobs, your families, your homes. There are times that test a man's soul, and every woman's as well. And I know that this may be one of those times. I can understand why you would be frightened, even angry at what this nation has done. But we are a nation that has risen up in adversity even in the best of times, we found our strength, and honor, and courage, our ability to work as one, when faced with the most difficult situations. And I want to call on each of you, in that spirit of patriotic sacrifice, to join with me in that effort in the days ahead.

(Silence. Then applause, as the recognition of actual thought begins to spread through the crowd. It swells, and finally, subsides).

MODERATOR: The next question is for Senator McCain.

CITIZEN 3 (He is a man who appears to be in his early 40's wearing blue jeans that are stiff and obviously brand-new. They are perfectly creased. He is wearing a tight fitting, also obviously new T-Shirt that says "Average American...And Black With Rage!" beneath which is an American flag. He is wearing black wing-tip shoes. ). Senator McCain, I'm just an average American, just an average Joe, just your Average Joe-Sixpack (Blackberry begins ringing)...Oh...
excuse me...just...a...sec...my boss's phone...(whispering tensely into phone:) "No...I said sell. Sell. Yes, the entire portfolio. No, not Ghanan timber, for god's sake, gold, the lot of it. Jesus H....(tucks Blackberry back into pants pocket and then readjusts his stance to that of average Joe, slumping to one side again and changing his voice back to it's original tenor). Like I said, just an average Joe Sixpack. And I'm wonderin'. I heard what Mr. Hussein just said about "rising up", and I'm wonderin' if that's exactly what he wants to do! Oh, sure, he wants us to band together to rise up--where have we heard that before? Socialists! That's what they do! (crowd begins to murmur, and in the rising heat, the smell of the fresh meat begins to waft faintly through the hall). Rise up! That's what he wants to do! Well, we need to rise up! Against those kind of Socialist, Communist, Fascist, Atheist, Marxist policies! (the crowd is talking, some nodding their heads). And so what I want to ask you, Sen. McCain (crowd quiets), as an average everyday American, is this: What is it like, being a fighter pilot and all, when you know that Barack Hussein was out there, palling around with his Communist friends?

MCCAIN: Well, my friend--and by that, I mean that all of you are my friends--I'm glad you asked. Not everyone has had the luxury of gaining an education merely on the basis of their own talent, or the opportunity to travel the world learning how to be separate from important family members without their having significant pull, or to be able to experience the variety of foods that one has the chance to consume when they are paid for by the State. And, I can say that, in that way, I haven't been quiet as lucky. But I will say this--I will not look such fortune in the face and say: 'Fine, I'll work on education with the Bill Ayers of this world', "I'll be at the top of my class at Harvard", when I can be down, down there with you at the bottom! I know what it's like to be at the bottom when I've had all the opportunities--and I want to share that experience with those of you who have had none. You're angry. I'm angry. We have that in common. Let's be angry together, satisfied that, for another for four years, we've put those who have the arrogance to think for extended periods in their place, content in knowing that we're right--even if we're wrong.

CITIZEN 4: Hiya. My name is George, from Midland, altho' some would say Kennebunkport, heh, heh. I have a question for ya, John, and it's this. Listen: I'm goin' to be out of a job soon. Oil futures aren't lookin' that good, and I've got to tell ya', I didn't have too much luck there in the first place. So I'd like to ask ya, one flyin' man to another--what do you think I oughta do?

PALIN: (emerges from wings with purposeful strides to McCain's podium): I've got to take this one, John. Mr. Bush, if you can't figure out what you want to do after you leave and we move in, take a little time off, and then you come right up to Alaska. They love hunting just like you--and you can fly, you can learn to do it from a plane! The pipeline's big enough for any number of mistakes. So you come up here when you're finished--we've got plenty of bars with plenty of bowls of nuts and plenty of televisions right on Wasiila Main street--we'll take care of you right!

(Bush smiles and sits, crowd applauds, Palin, smiling and waving, exits).

CITIZEN 5: Well, look. This is a serious question. I'm John, from Carpenter. It's for both of you. I've got two kids, 4 and 6, a boy and a girl--so sweet. You know. My wife, she was working for the WaMu branch, center of town. It's closing next week. She's been looking in the ads, the newspapers, online--nothing. It's all she can do to keep a smile on her face for the kids. Myself, I built a commerical trucking business from the ground up. Sixteen years. Sweat everyday, grease on my hands, I can never get it out. We were never rich, but I made a good living. I didn't know about investing--who does, you're not born with it! Anyway, I went to an investment advisor, it seemed like the safe thing to do, protect the kids, plan for the future, not use my own dumb head (smiles). Well, he was so smart, and he was so sure, and he had it all planned out. And it looked so impressive on paper. Now--all of a sudden--it's gone. Everything is changing. It's changing so quickly. It seems like nobody--nobody knew. Not even the people who were supposed to! Everybody was talkin', makin noise, thinkin' of one thing: Themselves, themselves, themselves. Never worrying to think about someone else, about the future, about the next moment.

Well, now the next moment is here. And I wanna know--what are the two of you really gonna do about it?

(The room is quiet as his last word echoes in the hall. The raw meat is rocking, slowly in the air, and the paper bills are gently fluttering). You can see Palin in profile, standing in the wings, holding her chin in her hand. The two candidates stare straight ahead, holding the podium. They are silent).

Cite:
Head of State
http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/10/fear-and-loathing-in-town-hall.html

Posted by: robthewsoncamb | October 7, 2008 6:42 PM | Report abuse

SEN. MCCAIN/GOV. PALIN/FOX NEWS NEED TO KEEP SMACKING VOTERS IN FACE WITH FACTS, SO THEY CAN WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE!!

* Sen. McCain needs to emphasize Democratic involvement in current economic problems. Don't be shy, point fingers and call names please!!!

* Emphasize points regarding Sen. Obama/Sen. Biden record and lack of ability to deal with current economic problems. Emphasize Gov. Palin/Sen. McCain record and ability to deal with current economic problems!!!!

* Sen. McCain needs to emphasize solutions for improving economy --mostly small business solutions, education, down sizing gov. etc..

BTW, voters seem to like Gov. Palin attack on corporations and politicians corruption. Maybe this will work for Sen. McCain also.

Posted by: oldgirl1 | October 7, 2008 6:40 PM | Report abuse

NEVADA ACORN OFFICE RAIDED-BREAKING NEWS

How is this not front page? It's buried!
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/10/07/acorn_nevada_offices_raided.html

Posted by: blevins20061 | October 7, 2008 6:35 PM | Report abuse

I can't wait for the messiah to falter in the next week or so. his poll numbers will revert to their historical levels and the press in its rush to play the horserace, will declare his entire candidacy in a death spiral. It is called, peaking too early. some event in the next weeks will cause a serious questioning of Obama's capabilities.

there is nothing the press likes more than a falling hero. all eyes will be on him since he is temporarily in a slight lead. when it vaporizes, the storyline will be interesting but predictable.

you are all racists, as you know. but americans are beginning to realize just how dangerous and naive this kindergartner is. his VP is delusional and seems to have old timers syndrome.

but ignore his hateful associates, his crooked fundraising, his criminal ACORN group, his immense taxes, his profligate spending, his contempt for the military. Just ignore all that and concentrate on bush, bush, bush.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | October 7, 2008 6:31 PM | Report abuse

Gregory opened the "Road to the White House show with ex-Mainstream Media reporter Nicole Wallace who is now shilling for the McCain campaign. She telegraphed that McCain is going very negative tonight, probably not the "associations" front, but will probably accuse Obama of "lying" about their records.

She also though let loose with some verbal broadsides that indicate she clearly has some extreme right-wing views, which really indicate the extent to which McCain has become a creature dominated by the far-right, and also indicate that the Mainstream Media does indeed include some right-wingers.

If elected, it's pretty clear McCain has become so indebted to the mindless right-wing zealots, of whom Palin is a good reflection, that any hope of him governing as a moderate or centrist will be dashed. The McCain campaign clearly includes quite a few right-wingers with non-mainstream perspectives.

Posted by: OHIOCITIZEN | October 7, 2008 6:26 PM | Report abuse

Hoping McCain announces tonight he is dropping out.

Posted by: chrisfox8 | October 7, 2008 6:25 PM | Report abuse

You can watch McCain and Obama preparing for the debates, including out takes at http://www.watchdebate.com

See who won the watchdebate debator of the year award. http://www.Huckabeeshow.com

McCain is no stranger to the f word, see video at http://www.mccanes.com

Posted by: pastor123 | October 7, 2008 6:23 PM | Report abuse


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Posted by: 37thandOStreet | October 7, 2008 6:08 PM | Report abuse

"The townhall format coupled with the fact that neither moderator Tom Brokaw nor the audience can ask follow up questions of the candidates should make for a lot of stump speech and very little interaction. (BOOO!) In theory, that's good news for Obama as it lessens the risk of an unscripted moment that could change the direction of a race that is looking better and better for him by the day."

Umm, Mr. Cilizza, Obama is not the one who has to worry about an 'unscripted moment' -- that would be Shoot From the Hip McCain.

Posted by: drindl | October 7, 2008 6:07 PM | Report abuse

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