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Obama On The Losing End of Personality Contest

With some national polls suggesting that John McCain has moved into a statistical tie with Barack Obama in the presidential race, the Illinois senator's advisers are seeking to move the campaign out of the realm of a personality battle and back to a policy debate.

During an appearance on "Countdown with Keith Olbermann" last night, Obama pushed back hard on comments made last week by McCain campaign manager Rick Davis that "this election is not about issues" but rather about "a composite view of what people take away from these candidates."


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Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama leads a town hall meeting at a high school in Farmington Hills, Mich., Sept. 8, 2008. (AP Photo/Chris Carlson)

Said Obama last night (look below for the full video of his interview with Keith): "John McCain's campaign manager said this campaign is not going to be about the issues. That was his assertion. Well, I think that the American people expect it to be about the issues. They deserve it to be about the issues. That's what we're going to keep on pressing in the weeks that will remain."

Obama's strategy is a savvy one for two reasons: first, his campaign has lost the "personality" battle over the last two months or so, watching as McCain largely succeeded in portraying the Illinois senator as a vacuous celebrity while casting himself as the self-sacrificing war hero. Second, in a political climate in which large majorities of the American people believe the country is off on the wrong track and are genuinely worried about their families' financial well-being, an issue-focused appeal makes sense for the party out of power.

Whether it will work is an entirely different question. While voters always say that they want the two candidates to talk less about one another and more about the issues, it is often personality-focused messages (or attacks) that are most effective in a campaign setting.


One needs only recall the 2004 presidential campaign when, despite an American public souring rapidly on both the war in Iraq and President Bush, the incumbent managed to win a second term largely because the caricature painted by Republicans of Sen. John Kerry -- effete, windsurfing, swiss-cheese-on-cheesesteak -- took hold in voters' minds.

And, given the centrality of McCain's biography to his campaign -- particularly the five and a half years he spent as a POW in Vietnam -- as well as the toxic political environment for Republicans at the moment, it's hard to imagine that the race won't ultimately be, at least in part, a personality fight.

As Jmart and Jim VandeHei write of McCain and Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin in a terrific story along these same lines today in Politico: "In the duo's new stump speech and their first post-convention ad, the impression campaign strategists hope to leave is unmistakable. McCain is the war hero. Palin is the Every­mom. And together, they will rattle Washington."

The rise of the Republican ticket in recent weeks is due in large part to this personality frame that the GOP has imposed on the race. While McCain's story of personal heroism was known -- almost verbatim -- to political insiders, large numbers of average voters knew next to nothing about the torture and suffering the Arizona senator actually endured during his imprisonment. The telling of that compelling story coupled with the star turn by Palin, a mother of five whose oldest son is headed to Iraq and whose youngest is a special needs child, made for a powerful -- and personality-heavy -- convention.

Can Obama win a personality-focused election? Sure. He has his own powerful personal story -- the son of a mixed race parents, educated at Ivy League institutions, a community organizer etc. -- that, during the Democratic convention, was presented as the flesh-and-blood realization of the American Dream.

But, there's little question that Obama would be far better served by turning the race into a referendum on the policy differences between him and McCain rather than the personality differences. McCain's resume -- from a personal and a political perspective -- is as deep and emotionally resonant as any in American politics. The more this race becomes about that resume, the better Republicans have to feel about their chances.

By Chris Cillizza  |  September 9, 2008; 12:10 PM ET
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sheila, you've posted this garbage twice now. there is no "supposed friend" of mrs. mccain that told you that john calls his wife filthy names. this is a fruitcake that is going around to left wing groups pretending to be cindy mccain's friend and saying vile things about their marriage and character.

unless you are willing to give a name, don't repeat the crap.

i can't understand why women whosupported hillary could possibly vote for mccain-palin. she is against everything those women stood for. are they crazy or what? i am forced to conclude they are in this are to vote for mccain-who said "this why chelsea clinton is so ugly because janet reno is her father!. haha. i am from arizona and have never voted for mccain ever. he has called his own wife a filthy name, and has flipped flopped at least 74 times.

Posted by: sheila bateman | September 9, 2008 3:16 PM

Posted by: sheila 2 | September 13, 2008 3:14 AM | Report abuse

I still like Sen Obama's chances for being elected to the Presidency. I think the ballot box will tell the story not these Polls, by the way, I've never been polled and I have a cell phone and a landline. I think that when all the people that lost their jobs due to the policies of the Bush administration, and all the people that lost their health care or can't get health care due to the policies of the Bush administration, and all the people who lost their pensions due to the policies of the Bush administration, and all the people who can't get their children into a decent public school or state college due to the policies of the Bush administration, and all the people who would like to see the environment preserved and not destoyed for a temporary energy fix proposed by the McCain or McBush Republicans, that the Democrats should be back in power and change will happen!

Posted by: JBParker1 | September 12, 2008 11:57 AM | Report abuse

I don't think Sen. Obama and the Dems have a real problem come election day. I believe Pres. Bush and the failed Republican party leadership has put enough people out of work, eliminated enough people from health care, helped enough people to loose their homes, and failed to provide first class quality education to enough people that they will be running to the polls to elect Sen. Obama.

Posted by: JBParker1 | September 12, 2008 11:40 AM | Report abuse

Obama's public and media supporters find his life story "compelling", apparently becsause he is biracial and moved around a lot, and seem to consider it a qualification for the Presidency, or at least a justification for ignoring his lack of qualifications.

The mystery is how can Democratic voters project onto Obama so many remarkable attributes, when the sum total of his life shows no achievement but going to school, and talking--as a "community organizer", law professor and politician. He has stood for nothing and accomplished nothing. This is why he seems--and is-- weak and indecisive. Granted, Obama is a wordsmith, which qualifies him to be a speechwriter for presidents, but not to BE the president.

The relevance of McCain's POW story, whether or not he is a "hero", is that it shows him to be neither weak nor indecisive. Is he "old"? Yep. And with that age comes wisdom and experience. Is he rich? Well, if not, his wife surely is--and thus McCain isn't on the make. Is he cantankerous? Well, give me an old, wise cantankerous man over a smooth-talking post-pubescent neophyte any day. There are bad guys out there, and in a pinch I would rather have McCain at my side than the Boy Wonder (a/k/a The One We Have Been Waiting For).

Obama is about to spend the next 8 weeks being systematically destroyed by the media, just as he was once their darling. Outside a scripted, adulatory setting, he can't hold his own pants up, which will become increasingly evident.

Despite the fervent hopes of liberals, the Presidency of the United States is not an affirmative action position.

Obama will go down in utter defeat, like Adlai Stevenson, Michael Dukakis, George McGovern, John Kerry and Walter Mondale.

Then we can spend the next four years listening to the scribes of WaPo bloviate about how Obama was defeated by "racism".

Obama is merely outgunned by a smarter, wilier, tougher old man.

Posted by: justareader | September 11, 2008 1:38 AM | Report abuse

BY SHY SEN. OBAMA:

I can't wait for a head to head debate between Sen. McCain and Sen. Obama. Judging by how well Sen. Obama did with Fox News Mr. Bill O'Reilly, my money is on Sen. McCain. When Mr. Bill was interviewing Sen. O, Sen. O's head and eyes were constantly on the ground ; also, he was fidgeting and speaking like a shy little girl. Sen. O seems intimidated by older men.

Posted by: SHY SEN. OBAMA | September 11, 2008 12:27 AM | Report abuse

American media is a joke!

Kudos for Oprah for not having Palin on her show! Shame of any middle class citizen who cast a vote for the McCain/Palin ticket. It's time for real change. The change that McCain did not speak about or deliver over the past decade.

Posted by: Danielle | September 10, 2008 11:46 PM | Report abuse

all i ask is for Americans to do some soul searching and reflect on a choice between an extension of Bush Cheney and a new beginning to reclaim your place in the world.Eight Years is long enough to sleep...Wake up Americans!

Posted by: spad | September 10, 2008 9:34 PM | Report abuse


Yes, it is interesting how Obama has turned into the snore, and left to wonder -like Bill Clinton did about him - what just happened here?! But wait, no experience, hey, over here, etc.

Posted by: Chicago1 | September 10, 2008 9:21 PM | Report abuse

The MSM is playing right into McBush's hands by writing stories like this one.

Posted by: Patrick | September 10, 2008 4:43 PM | Report abuse

I think Obama is a pretty obvious choice if picking the more capable president is the yardstick. The majority of the USA is White Gentile, so McCain is a pretty obvious choice if race and religion is the yardstick.

The issues seem to favor Obama on economic policy and international relations, but favor McCain on war and social policy.

In any other Western country, Obama would be running away with it because issues of war and piece and social policy generally speaking have been resolved much in the manner of Canada. No countries in the EU or MERCOSUR or Oceania or Japan or South Korea or Norway or Iceland or Israel or Switzerland or South Africa have any desire to invade their neighbors or deny their people health care. The debate is solely about economic issues.

What makes the USA different is its backwardness on diplomacy and social issues plus a culture easily swayed by stories and themes, but worst of all is the "serious" media. Everybody knows what Fox is about. Aside from a snake in the grass or two, everybody knows what the NY Times, Boston Globe and San Francisco Chronicle are about. The McClatchy service, USA Today, the National Enquirer, the Wall Street Journal news side and for the most part the network nightly news are pretty fair.

Otherwise, it's one total McCain-fest. I don't mind it because I think it's pretty funny. It really cracks me up how supposedly knowledgable Washington reporters can write CHEERFULLY that Michelle Obama's having gone to Princeton and Harvard Law school is a NEGATIVE.

I have a son who's between the ages of the Obama girls and when he grows up if he got into Princeton undergrad and Harvard Law, I'd be thrilled.

I've never met the Latin bureau chiefs of any of the major papers and I doubt I'd talk to them on the record if I did, but if I ever run into one, I have to ask off the record what it is that makes obviously bright and nice people so thrilled about McCain and Palin and so damning of Obama.

All I know is that with the US press fully behind McCain, that sound you heard was 200,000,000 Latin-Americans breathing a sigh of relief that the Russians had sent ships into the Caribbean to make sure neither Bush/Cheney nor McCain/Palin got up to any funny business down here.

I'm not a great believer in Hugo Chavez's style of governing but it will be great if McCain and Palin are elected because they would be the only two world leaders to act goofier in public than Chavez does!

Posted by: DexterManley | September 10, 2008 3:15 PM | Report abuse

If anyone had any doubt that that voting for McCain and Princess Palin would bring 4 more years of Bush politics, they need only watch the latest ads from the Mc Cain campaign. As far as the lipstick on a pig upsetting Princess Palin, I say, If the skate fits sister, then wear it.

Posted by: Hockey mom | September 10, 2008 3:05 PM | Report abuse

I'm sorry, but the headline for this post is without merit. The post did not provide any statistics supporting the claim that he is losing. So, it really came down to TheFix (I so love how he refers to himself in the third person on occasion), claiming to know how other people think. If anything, McCain/Palin are showing themselves as third-grade bullies, which, in my opinion, makes them the losers.

Posted by: think_for_yourself | September 10, 2008 2:07 PM | Report abuse

If Americans decide to follow the cynicism and outright immature lies of the GOP, then they deserve what they get in November.

It's quite obvious that Obama's comment was not directed at Gov. Palin. He was talking about how McCain is trying to turn around the change issue, since McCain's policies are virtually the same as that of Bush and that he's been a D.C. insider for 25+ years. That's not change. He has not outlined how he plans to change anything. All his change rhetoric is just parroting the Obama message in an effort to subvert Americans who are either incapable or unable to see past such diversionary tactics. The fact that the McCain campaign is playing the sexism card just affirms it as part of the tried-and-true GOP smear machine.

John McCain is:
-Surrounded by fatcat Beltway professional lobbyists;
-Part of the Republican establishment which he himself has said, in his nomination acceptance speech, has lost the trust of the American people and succumbed to corruption;
-an extension of the previous Administration's strategies, having consistently voted along party lines against issues he now claims to support;
-Now claiming that, despite this, he has the qualities to be a uniter reaching out across party lines when in fact he is running an extremely partisan campaign;
-Making out-right lies about Sen. Obama's tax plan which would give breaks to those earning less than $250,000 a year and low-income households;
-Surrounded by spin-doctors who claim that this election is not about issues,
-And has blatantly used Governor Palin as a cynical, shameless mechanism to attract female votes.

So, taking this into account, how can the McCain campaign claim to be a reform campaign? The fact is they can't. A pig with lipstic, an Emperor with new clothes, use whatever colloquialism you choose, it's all the same. McCain's history and background in politics has not changed in the last two weeks any more than it has in the last quarter-century, no matter how many times he invokes his heroism during Vietnam.

With this in mind, how can you be dissatisfied with the current state of American and still support McCain? It's like getting burned by a hot stove and wanting to touch it again.

Posted by: Kaz | September 10, 2008 2:05 PM | Report abuse

Hooossein sucks at basketball

Posted by: Bob | September 10, 2008 1:51 PM | Report abuse

You can put lipstick on Obama, but he's still weak, confused, and unpatriotic.

Posted by: Beth | September 10, 2008 1:50 PM | Report abuse

Obama is a sexist pig.

Posted by: Jane | September 10, 2008 1:49 PM | Report abuse

Its becoming more difficult to determine if Keith Olbermamn and Chris Matthews are Obama's campaign managers or his secret lovers.
Obama's remark was clearly directed at Gov. Sarah Palin. Before he makes disparaging remarks like that he needs to take a closer look at his wife, Michelle). Republicans could comment," you can put lipstick on a gorilla, but if it looks like a gorilla, it's still a gorilla."

Posted by: Victor Magilke | September 10, 2008 1:42 PM | Report abuse

"Gina" must think the American people are stupid! For her to propose that Obama is misleading the country on the critical issues facing us while McCain is, supposedly, dealing with them is pure hokum.

Obama and his camp have proven time and time again that they're looking out for the average Joe, not the rich, privileged neocon. That's why they have solutions. All McCain keeps doing is pointing to his military service.

The GOP are a bunch of political shape-shifters. When the truth assails them, they claim they're any kind of victim you can imagine and go for sympathy. When you try to make nice with them, they turn into fire-breathing dragons. They harangue the media when the media report the truth about the opposition, particularly when the opposition is making the right decisions.

The media wouldn't take a national TV ad spot claiming the earth is flat, so why should they give time to liars like the GOP ... and Gina?

Posted by: wpreader2007 | September 10, 2008 1:35 PM | Report abuse

OBAMA MUST THINK THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE STUPID !!!

It's one thing when Obama tries to cover up mistakes he's
made in private, or when he feebly tries to cover up or misdirect
us, by saying that he never heard Wright's anti-American sermons
over a 20 year period ... but, when Obama tells us that the
Palin lipstick/pig remark wasn't an insult directed towards
Governor Palin, then Obama is adding insult to injury towards
the American people. This creep is not Presidential material.
P.S. The biased main stream liberal press which is attempting damage control for Obama, also must think the American people are stupid

Posted by: Gina | September 10, 2008 12:38 PM | Report abuse

Good. Let's talk about issues. The Republican's are afraid to talk about issues. The country is in a mess because of the disastrous
8 year administration of George W. Bush.

McCain agrees with Bush--his votes in Congress were 90% in agreement with Bush.

The election is a PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION. Obama is the Democratic candidate and McCain is the Republican candidate.

Posted by: janye | September 10, 2008 12:15 PM | Report abuse

THE REPUBLICICANS ARE REALLY RUNNING SCARE
MCPAINLIN IS SINKING LIKE A ROCK,THAT LYING
LIKE A RUG, IS FALLING FASTER THAN A METERORITE,WE OBAMA SUPPORTER ARE CONFIDENT
THAT WE WILL WIN IN NOV.SO YOU REPUBLICANS
CAN USE ALL OF THE EXCUSE YOU WANT TOO!
WHO GIVES A DAMM,PLUS I DARE YOU SAY NOT TO TELL THE TRUTH ABOUT THE PIG IN LIPSTICK,
WE DON'T HAVE TO APOPGOLYIZE TO THAT PHONEY
FOR CALLING A SPADE A SPADE,WE DON'T NEED
TO APEASE TO THE RIGHT HATERS FOR ANYTHING
I AM PROUD OF OBAMA,AND NOT ASHAMED TO ADMIT IT,TAKE OFF THE GLOVES OBAMA AND KNOCK THE WIND OUT OF THERE FAKE SAILS
WHAT DO WE HAVE TO LOSE?THEY ARE HITTING
YOU BELOW THE BELT 24/7 AND WE ARE SUPPOSE
TO BE NICE AND HAPPY GRINNING DEMOCRATS
SCREW THAT! I LET'S GIVE THE GREAT WHITE
HOPE ANOTHER LESSON IN HISTORY,THEY DON'T
CARE IF YOU ARE TRYING TO HELP THIS COUNTRY
ARE THEM, THEY JUST HAVE TO HATE AND SMEAR
THE WORK OF THEIR SAVIOR.THIS IS THE NATURE
OF THE BEAST.OBAMA,LOVE WILL DESTROY THEM
BECAUSE ALL THEY HAVE HAVE IS FEAR,FEAR,FEAR,OUT OF THE DARKNESS CAME THE LIGHT1
,FIGHT BACK DEMOCRATS,THE POLLS ARE A DISTRACTION
TO MAKE YOU LOSE HOPE,AND FAITH, BELIEVE ME
AND WATCH OUT FOR RUSH(KIDDIE PORN)LIMBAUGH
WHO THE HECK HE THINK HE'S IS SCAREING
BESIDE SOME CHILD,AND THE GAY BLADE HANNITY
HE'S HAVING SUCH A HARD TIME TRYING TO KEEP
IS MALE POSTURE TOGETHER ON T.V IT SO FUNNY

CHANGE YOU CAN BELIEVE IN OBAMA/BIDEN(08)

Posted by: HORNY FOR HANNITY | September 10, 2008 12:01 PM | Report abuse

Which is more important Obama losing the personality contest or winning this election on November the Fourth.

Now lets meet the newest personality Missy Piggy! A carton character!

Schmidt, Rove and Davis are attacking a Pig Wearing Lipstick? Because they branded Governor Sarah Palin as their Pit bull wearing Lip stick? What is the difference between a Pig and a Pit bull?

Pigs, also called hogs or swine, are ungulates which have been domesticated as sources of food, leather, and similar products since ancient times. From Wikipedia

Pit Bull is a term commonly used to describe several breeds of dog in the Molosser family that were historically used for dog fighting. From Wikipedia

Proof that they are attempting to steal the fashion vote and the pet vote.

In my storage room where I parked my computer this artist is looking for a quick response!
Ok for the courtship I need a headline - Democrats courting all Republican and Independent voters who love Lipstick, Fashion and pets!

For inspiration I'm looking at my favorite videos. For lip stick lets see how about - Super Bowl XXXVIII Commercial - Bud Light 6 of 8 (Lipstick). For fashion - Diesel 'Liquid Space' Holographic Fashion Show. For Pet owners - Talking dogs and Funny Cats. Do think my quick response will work?

I never thought this election might be decided on Missy Piggy vs Pit Bull with lip stick. I bet the whole world's online community is thinking “So this is America and Democracy?” Yes I say! This is our finest hour! 55 more days!

Posted by: Cooday | September 10, 2008 11:48 AM | Report abuse

When thinking, talking and writing about economic subjects, keep the following things in mind:

GOP policies favor the hoarding of wealth by an elect few. Those who oppose them promote the creation of wealth by providing opportunity for the many.

The GOP promotes a rigged game where wealth is inherited and business is done via secret deals; those who oppose them insist on a level playing field where wealth is achieved via a fair process.

The old frame of haves vs. have-nots is counter-productive, since people tend to identify with aspirations and identification with “have-not” is defeatist.

Even as we may hate them, we also want to be them (or at least, we want to have the freedom and possibility that attends having what they have).

Instead, their lying to message of hope that will end GOP ownership of the wealth frame revolves around the haves and the will-haves.

Although it’s less catchy rolling off the tongue, another way to frame the haves is to emphasize that they’re the “keeps” or “keep-aways,” which focuses on their greed and selfishness.

When possible, we should point to the idea that at its core we’re seeing a struggle between old money and new horizons.

They’re inbred and rule by downward pressure, while we leverage the inherent creativity bound up in America’s birthright of diversity.

Lies are also GOP policies, build walls between people and the opportunity to attain wealth through their innovation and hard work.

Those who oppose the Republicans are "building bridges" ..no pun intended to the American Dream.

The GOP-dominated establishment over the last 8 years is a system of exclusion that prevents people from earning their way up the ladder of success.

Our system is one of inclusion where people are free to achieve their destiny.

Conservative-dominated businesses are obsessed with cutting costs, which is a code-word for “people.”

Those who oppose the GOP are committed to investing in the value of human ingenuity.

While they seek to offshore opportunity..oil, jobs..etc, we the democrats promote policies that onboard American talent.

The GOP/RNC card holders, they work to preserve a small, clutching aristocracy.

We "the people" believe in promoting a meritocracy where the only limits on human achievement are the abilities of the individuals or teams involved.

Despite the cynical language they use to talk about "entitlements," "community activism" .....no class of people in the history of the world act as entitled as those who were born to privilege.

The fat and stupid feel entitled to power and money. Those of us who are lean and hungry seek nothing more than the chance to earn it through our abilities.

Existing, pro-GOP policies are a lock on the gate of opportunity. We "the people" promote policies that are a key to "community activism" which equals to universal opportunity.

When you look hard at the GOP-enabled lobbying culture that has taken over Washington, it becomes painfully clear that they’re about special interests.

The Democrats are about the public interest.

The GOP acts like a gang,"beating up old ladies"..etc

Democrats promote policies that bring talented individuals together as teams.

The GOP talks a lot about free markets, where people excel by working in their own self-interest.

However, as their policies suck the chance for real profit out of the market they foster stagnation

As we replace their policies with those that truly do allow people to reap the rewards of their work, we promote a new golden age of innovation

The GOP divides us against each other, knowing that artificial notions of red vs. blue distract us from the real issues
We unite all Americans in the pursuit of prosperity for all

In GOP Land people succeed depending on how well they’re plugged into the old-boy network

Those of us who oppose them believe in creating productivity networks

GOP policies are patently and exclusively self-serving

Our vision replaces self-serving with self-sufficient

It’s ironic that those who scream the loudest about taxes because they allow others to leech off your hard work are the ones who profit massively off of the work of others

The truth is that it’s the GOP hoarding class that leeches off of those who actually produce.

The GOP favors a world where decisions are made in a smoke-filled back room. We believe democracy and free markets work best when conducted in an open forum.

One of the most important ways that the GOP has gamed the system is through a long war to transform our schools into institutions of indoctrination to better our society..

We’re not afraid of ANY ideas - just bad ones.

peeeuuu Palin and McCaint offer more of the same bad ideas..but they are getting more and more inane and stupider every day....

Whats the difference between Sarah Peeeuu Palin and a pit bull with lipstick...you can sell the dog...

peeeeuuu

Posted by: AlexP1 | September 10, 2008 10:15 AM | Report abuse

Gee, this is beginning to look a lot like 2004 and 2000, isn't it? I think Gore and Kerry ran to the issues after losing the personality campaign, and look where it got them.

I turned 40 last month, and in that lifetime two Democrats have been elected President. There are structural reasons for that, and they remain in place today. Maybe 4 years of McCain will fundamentally alter that equation, but the Bush Disaster apparently hasn't.

The critical moment in this election cycle will be the first Wednesday in November. If Democrats once again decide they just picked the wrong candidate, then they are beyond hope. I truly hope Obama brings out a coalition in November that redefines the political landscape, but if he doesn't, then Democrats need to start pursuing high risk-high reward politics. They can start by putting a balanced budget amendment on the table and ramming it down the borrow-and-spend crowd's throat.

Posted by: Deficits don't matter | September 10, 2008 8:36 AM | Report abuse

Scott

Gov Palin was able to cut the states earmark requests more from the exponential oil revenues...than anything she actually did...

10% reduction in a state where they are receiving $515 per capita (that is after the reduction of 10%)...

compared to lets say a state like Illinois...which received $20 per capita

isn't being honest in a state that has seen a huge jump in their oil revenue profits and moneys they received for a gas pipeline... in a gas and oil economy dependent state

can we get back to the truth...

who actually is offering answers and what "change" outside this hypocritical bologne eamark statement...is mcCain proposing because it sure looks like he keeps us on the SAMR road.

Posted by: dl | September 10, 2008 8:26 AM | Report abuse

I gotta tell ya...I'm starting to worry about the mentality of people in this country. When you ask Repubs just WHAT it is they like about Palin, I hear stuff like..."she hunts, she fishes, she shops at Wal-mart just like regular moms, and she's REAL." "She could've had an abortion but gave birth to a DS baby anyway." "She comes from a small town & understands small town values" But when you ask them what policies she supports that they approve of, all I get is, "she wants drilling & she's against abortion". THAT'S IT!!! With all thats facing this country after 8yrs under Bush, the fact that she bring NOTHING to the table other than a beauty queen smile, the ability to read a prepared speech & a questionable record as mayor/govenor (which somehow qualifies her to potentially lead our nation). Since the RNC, she's made a few campaign stops with McCain, where she's trotted out to make a 15min version of the speech she already gave at the RNC (complete with the same lies I might add) then MCain takes over and repeats HIS same lies about Obama raising their taxes and these people cheer like the sheep they are. Of course, when the camera pans the crowd, you see mostly older white men & women (the kind that don't use the internet to check the facts & get most of their information from Fox/Fix news & Bill O'Reilly.) Don't believe me?

Check this out: http://foxattacks.com/

We are being cheated people. Cheated out our 1 chance to REALLY make a difference in our children's lives. McCain talks about change then turns around and hires Steve Schmidt to head his campaign. The same man who ran Bush's campaign in '00. The same man who was behind the smear campaign AGAINST MCCAIN in SC by suggesting his adopted black daughter was really his illegitimate love child!!! Does that matter to McShame? HELL NO!!! Its all about winning now and ALL the stops are being pulled out. Lets face it, at his age (72) this is his last shot at the Oval office and he's going to do EVERYTHING to acheive his goal. Even run the kind of negative campaign he swore he wouldn't. Even if it means using Karl Rove behind the scenes. After all, "Bush's Brain" did such a great job beating him before, didn't he???

Matter of fact, I think its time to take this criminal out of the equation don't you?!?

http://sendkarlrovetojail.com

Wake up people...Our country needs you to make the right choice! Eight is Enough!!!!!!

Posted by: Kimberly | September 10, 2008 8:19 AM | Report abuse

Lest, we forget, there would have been no need for a Surge if Bush & Co. had not taken the U.S. into a Phony & Pretend War on Terrorism while the Real War on Terrorism in Afghanistan where Bin Ladin lived, was ignored! And if we do not Wise up this might happen in the future!

http://www.youtube.com/v/PdJUCU1UH2w


In a cleverly pre-emptive strike, McCain is falsely accusing Obama of wanting to teach children sex education because they knew Newsweek will be soon coming out with an article on Sarah Palin! "Judge Warned Palin About Emotional Child Abuse!"

Posted by: Angellight | September 10, 2008 8:12 AM | Report abuse

From Today's Wall Street Journal!-

Yes, Palin Did Stop That Bridge
By JIM DEMINT
September 10, 2008

"But, you know, when you've been taking all these earmarks when it's convenient, and then suddenly you're the champion anti-earmark person, that's not change. Come on! I mean, words mean something, you can't just make stuff up." -- Barack Obama, Sept. 6, 2008

In politics, words are cheap. What really counts are actions. Democrats and Republicans have talked about fiscal responsibility for years. In reality, both parties have a shameful record of wasting hundreds of billions of tax dollars on pork-barrel projects.

My Senate colleague Barack Obama is now attacking Gov. Sarah Palin over earmarks. Having worked with both John McCain and Mr. Obama on earmarks, and as a recovering earmarker myself, I can tell you that Mrs. Palin's leadership and record of reform stands well above that of Mr. Obama.

Let's compare.

Mrs. Palin used her veto pen to slash more local projects than any other governor in the state's history. She cut nearly 10% of Alaska's budget this year, saving state residents $268 million. This included vetoing a $30,000 van for Campfire USA and $200,000 for a tennis court irrigation system. She succinctly justified these cuts by saying they were "not a state responsibility."

Meanwhile in Washington, Mr. Obama voted for numerous wasteful earmarks last year, including: $12 million for bicycle paths, $450,000 for the International Peace Museum, $500,000 for a baseball stadium and $392,000 for a visitor's center in Louisiana.

Mrs. Palin cut Alaska's federal earmark requests in half last year, one of the strongest moves against earmarks by any governor. It took real leadership to buck Alaska's decades-long earmark addiction.

Mr. Obama delivered over $100 million in earmarks to Illinois last year and has requested nearly a billion dollars in pet projects since 2005. His running mate, Joe Biden, is still indulging in earmarks, securing over $90 million worth this year.

Mrs. Palin also killed the infamous Bridge to Nowhere in her own state. Yes, she once supported the project: But after witnessing the problems created by earmarks for her state and for the nation's budget, she did what others like me have done: She changed her position and saved taxpayers millions. Even the Alaska Democratic Party credits her with killing the bridge.

When the Senate had its chance to stop the Bridge to Nowhere and transfer the money to Katrina rebuilding, Messrs. Obama and Biden voted for the $223 million earmark, siding with the old boys' club in the Senate. And to date, they still have not publicly renounced their support for the infamous earmark.

Mrs. Palin has proven courageous by taking on big spenders in her own party. In March of this year, the Anchorage Daily News reported that, "Alaska Sen. Ted Stevens is aggravated about what he sees as Gov. Sarah Palin's antagonism toward the earmarks he uses to steer federal money to the state."

Mr. Obama had a chance to take on his party when Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid offered a sham ethics bill, which was widely criticized by watchdog groups such as Citizens Against Government Waste for shielding earmarks from pubic scrutiny. But instead of standing with taxpayers, Mr. Obama voted for the bill. Today, he claims he helped write the bill that failed to clean up Washington.

Mr. Obama has shown little restraint on earmarks until this year, when he decided to co-sponsor an earmark moratorium authored by Mr. McCain and myself. Mr. Obama is vulnerable on this issue, and he knows it. That is why he is lashing out at Mrs. Palin and trying to hide his own record.

Mrs. Palin is one of the strongest antiearmark governors in America. If more governors around the country would do what she has done, we would be much closer to fixing our nation's fiscal problems than we are.

Mrs. Palin's record here is solid and inspiring. She will help Mr. McCain shut down the congressional favor factory, and she has a record to prove it. Actions mean something. You can't just make stuff up.

Mr. DeMint, a Republican, is a U.S. senator from South Carolina.

Posted by: Scott | September 10, 2008 8:05 AM | Report abuse

From Today's Wall Street Journal!-

Yes, Palin Did Stop That Bridge
By JIM DEMINT
September 10, 2008

"But, you know, when you've been taking all these earmarks when it's convenient, and then suddenly you're the champion anti-earmark person, that's not change. Come on! I mean, words mean something, you can't just make stuff up." -- Barack Obama, Sept. 6, 2008

In politics, words are cheap. What really counts are actions. Democrats and Republicans have talked about fiscal responsibility for years. In reality, both parties have a shameful record of wasting hundreds of billions of tax dollars on pork-barrel projects.

My Senate colleague Barack Obama is now attacking Gov. Sarah Palin over earmarks. Having worked with both John McCain and Mr. Obama on earmarks, and as a recovering earmarker myself, I can tell you that Mrs. Palin's leadership and record of reform stands well above that of Mr. Obama.

Let's compare.

Mrs. Palin used her veto pen to slash more local projects than any other governor in the state's history. She cut nearly 10% of Alaska's budget this year, saving state residents $268 million. This included vetoing a $30,000 van for Campfire USA and $200,000 for a tennis court irrigation system. She succinctly justified these cuts by saying they were "not a state responsibility."

Meanwhile in Washington, Mr. Obama voted for numerous wasteful earmarks last year, including: $12 million for bicycle paths, $450,000 for the International Peace Museum, $500,000 for a baseball stadium and $392,000 for a visitor's center in Louisiana.

Mrs. Palin cut Alaska's federal earmark requests in half last year, one of the strongest moves against earmarks by any governor. It took real leadership to buck Alaska's decades-long earmark addiction.

Mr. Obama delivered over $100 million in earmarks to Illinois last year and has requested nearly a billion dollars in pet projects since 2005. His running mate, Joe Biden, is still indulging in earmarks, securing over $90 million worth this year.

Mrs. Palin also killed the infamous Bridge to Nowhere in her own state. Yes, she once supported the project: But after witnessing the problems created by earmarks for her state and for the nation's budget, she did what others like me have done: She changed her position and saved taxpayers millions. Even the Alaska Democratic Party credits her with killing the bridge.

When the Senate had its chance to stop the Bridge to Nowhere and transfer the money to Katrina rebuilding, Messrs. Obama and Biden voted for the $223 million earmark, siding with the old boys' club in the Senate. And to date, they still have not publicly renounced their support for the infamous earmark.

Mrs. Palin has proven courageous by taking on big spenders in her own party. In March of this year, the Anchorage Daily News reported that, "Alaska Sen. Ted Stevens is aggravated about what he sees as Gov. Sarah Palin's antagonism toward the earmarks he uses to steer federal money to the state."

Mr. Obama had a chance to take on his party when Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid offered a sham ethics bill, which was widely criticized by watchdog groups such as Citizens Against Government Waste for shielding earmarks from pubic scrutiny. But instead of standing with taxpayers, Mr. Obama voted for the bill. Today, he claims he helped write the bill that failed to clean up Washington.

Mr. Obama has shown little restraint on earmarks until this year, when he decided to co-sponsor an earmark moratorium authored by Mr. McCain and myself. Mr. Obama is vulnerable on this issue, and he knows it. That is why he is lashing out at Mrs. Palin and trying to hide his own record.

Mrs. Palin is one of the strongest antiearmark governors in America. If more governors around the country would do what she has done, we would be much closer to fixing our nation's fiscal problems than we are.

Mrs. Palin's record here is solid and inspiring. She will help Mr. McCain shut down the congressional favor factory, and she has a record to prove it. Actions mean something. You can't just make stuff up.

Mr. DeMint, a Republican, is a U.S. senator from South Carolina.

Posted by: Scott | September 10, 2008 8:04 AM | Report abuse

Cap. Howard:

I used to live in New City during those Mayor David Dinkins days. I got mugged twice. I also remember all the rioting, mugging of people clothes and shoes, breaking and entering of people homes, bad economy, dirty streets and subway, prostitution, and sexual diseases. This black leader was so bad even black people in NY are now reluctant to vote for black mayors. The black and some whites were happy at first to see a black mayor. However, in the long run, they all badly regretted their decision . Americans should take NY and all black leading nations around the world as an example of what Sen. Obama would be like as president because throughout the world and history black leaders have perfectly consistently done poorly.

Posted by: NY Man | September 10, 2008 7:49 AM | Report abuse

Obama might as well have been interviewed by his wife. Obermann is a left wing pandering fool who couldn't give an impartial interview if his life depended on it. Even his bosses at NBC had to relieve him and Chris Mathews of their anchor duties because of their unruly bias.

As for Obama, his own tactics are being turned against him and he doesn't like it. Welcome to the big leagues. He very much reminds me of the old mayor of NYC, David Dinkens, who talked a great line but when elected financially broke the City of New York. He even got OTB to lose money. Obama is the same empty suit, different occupant.

Posted by: Capt. Howard | September 10, 2008 5:56 AM | Report abuse

OBAMA LOOKS LIKE A LIGHT-WEIGHT NEXT TO JOE BIDEN. The democratic party superdelegates, in their rush to make a Presidential choice motivated more by affirmative action than qualifications, have completely destroyed the democratic party's chances this year.


superdelegates.


http://www.myspace.com/37thandostreet


The democratic party had two excellent candidates to choose from: Joe Biden and Chris Dodd - their contributions starved both for cash and the voters IGNORED ALL CONSIDERATION OF ACTUAL QUALIFICATIONS and picked Obama with Hillary second.


The democrats have only themselves to blame for fielding a weak candidate.


Actually Obama is a pathetic candidate - no experience in foreign policy - Obama has built a career on MAXING OUT EVERY AFFIRMATIVE ACTION PROGRAM HE COULD FIND UNTIL HE TURNED THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY DELEGATE SELECTION PROCESS INTO AN AFFIRMATIVE ACTION PROGRAM IN MICHIGAN AND FLORIDA.


The democratic party did it to themselves.


McCain is the stronger candidate - the people around him are brilliant - they put on an excellent convention which propelled McCain and Palin ahead in the polls by five points.


Obama's convention was horrible, it was a strain to watch the hillary-bill saga play out again.


How the Conventions are managed is important - McCain gets an A+++ and Obama gets a B- or C+.

Seriously Chris - McCain is the stronger candidate and he is extremely more qualified to be President - to vote for the other guy is to risk this nation's national security with some inexperienced affirmative-action guy who shouldn't even be in Washington.


Seriously Chris - this election is out of hand.

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Posted by: 37th&OStreet | September 10, 2008 5:55 AM | Report abuse

Chris, I guess anybody would be on the losing end of a personality contest with Palin. Especially when the media lets her say anything she wants repeatedly when the media knows thats she's lying and the media let her get away with not having a press conference to learn about foriegn policy and Mccain's positions. Palin is recieving better treatment from the media than any other candidate. Hillary Clinton was scrutinized Obama was scrutinized and for months. We have less than 60 days before the general election and Palin hasn't answered any questions but she always covered and repeatedly lies about her positions and the media lets her get away with murder. Its not fair that Mccain and Palin gets to distort their rivals positions while they lie about their own. They media just go along with the story as if nothing ever happened. Its ridiculous.

Posted by: Greg | September 10, 2008 5:54 AM | Report abuse

When you read some of the ignorance being spewed here for fact from some these idiots on here it makes one wonder who will be deciding who gets to be president for the next 4 years. Where do you come off saying McCain is more qualified and Obama is an affirmative action candidate. It shows your bigotry right upfront. If you want to debate policy and what is good for the country lets look at the facts. McCain lacks the temperament to be president. His tax policies are bad for 95% of country. Obama will cut taxes for the middle class who are actually responsible for spurring domestic economic growth with their spending on basic items. The list goes on and on and if you cannot see that there is something fundamentally wrong. Also, women who want to support the McCain-Palin ticket go right ahead. You will get what you deserve. All you have to do is look at McCain's record when it comes to issues that are relevant to women. And I am not even talking about the elephant in the room; "abortion"

Posted by: Makongoh | September 10, 2008 1:12 AM | Report abuse

Obama looks bad. is saying stupid stuff everyday. women will not like is lipstick comment one bit. may have played well for Chrsi matthews and odorman crowd, but that's not right. he's not looking Presidential and certainly not looking like a Gentleman. A gentleman would have stayed away from it all together.

it shows you more and more that this guy is self imploding.

with his failure to take publuc financing and his donors and Hillary supporters flocking to McCain / Palin, there are now reports that he will be $50 million short of McCain, IF he can raise 75 million a month for the next two months.

McCain is going to hammer him on the ads.

McCain is going to hammer him in the debates.

Posted by: dano | September 10, 2008 1:03 AM | Report abuse

Someone called this guy Keith Obamaman. It fits. I watched him and his protege Mr. Maddow playing for the Obama team long enough. I thought they would wear two hats but Obama's hat apparently is all they like wearing on MSNBC

Posted by: Casper | September 10, 2008 12:45 AM | Report abuse

Two Embarrasingly indefensible Obama Issues-

1. Corn Ethanol
-leads to global warming using one unit of petroleum for every unit replaced
-raises food prices
-7x less efficient than sugar cane ethanol (which McCain favors)
(BUT great for Illinois farmers!)

2. Infant Protection Act

-Opposes medical attention for infants who survive LEGAL abortions, not making them illegal
-Obama lied about wording of the Illinois law, later admitting that it was the same wording as in the federal bill
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Obama- shows no shame in pandering to farmers and more radical than abortion advocates.

Comments Obama More Pro-Choice Than NARAL

HumanEvents.com

12/26/2006
Sen. Barack Obama (D.-Ill.) portrays himself as a thoughtful Democrat who carefully considers both sides of controversial issues, but his radical stance on abortion puts him further left on that issue than even NARAL Pro-Choice America.

In 2002, as an Illinois legislator, Obama voted against the Induced Infant Liability Act, which would have protected babies that survived late-term abortions. That same year a similar federal law, the Born Alive Infant Protection Act, was signed by President Bush. Only 15 members of the U.S. House opposed it, and it passed the Senate unanimously on a voice vote.

Both the Illinois and the federal bill sought equal treatment for babies who survived premature inducement for the purpose of abortion and wanted babies who were born prematurely and given live-saving medical attention.

When the federal bill was being debated, NARAL Pro-Choice America released a statement that said, “Consistent with our position last year, NARAL does not oppose passage of the Born Alive Infants Protection Act ... floor debate served to clarify the bill’s intent and assure us that it is not targeted at Roe v. Wade or a woman’s right to choose.”

But Obama voted against this bill in the Illinois senate and killed it in committee. Twice, the Induced Infant Liability Act came up in the Judiciary Committee on which he served. At its first reading he voted “present.” At the second he voted “no.”

The bill was then referred to the senate’s Health and Human Services Committee, which Obama chaired after the Illinois Senate went Democratic in 2003. As chairman, he never called the bill up for a vote.

Jill Stanek, a registered delivery-ward nurse who was the prime mover behind the legislation after she witnessed aborted babies’ being born alive and left to die, testified twice before Obama in support of the Induced Infant Liability Act bills. She also testified before the U.S. Congress in support of the Born Alive Infant Protection Act.

Stanek told me her testimony “did not faze” Obama.

In the second hearing, Stanek said, “I brought pictures in and presented them to the committee of very premature babies from my neonatal resuscitation book from the American Pediatric Association, trying to show them unwanted babies were being cast aside. Babies the same age were being treated if they were wanted!”

“And those pictures didn’t faze him [Obama] at all,” she said.

At the end of the hearing, according to the official records of the Illinois State senate, Obama thanked Stanek for being “very clear and forthright,” but said his concern was that Stanek had suggested “doctors really don’t care about children who are being born with a reasonable prospect of life because they are so locked into their pro-abortion views that they would watch an infant that is viable die.” He told her, “That may be your assessment, and I don’t see any evidence of that. What we are doing here is to create one more burden on a woman and I can’t support that.”

As a senator, Obama has opposed measures to criminalize those who transport minors across state lines for the purpose of obtaining an abortion.

At a townhall meeting in Ottawa, Ill., Joanne Resendiz, a teacher and mother of five, asked him: “How are you going to vote on this, keeping in mind that 10, 15 years down the line your daughters, God forbid, could be transported across state lines?”

Obama said: “The decision generally is one that a woman should make.”


Posted by: Scott | September 10, 2008 12:18 AM | Report abuse

What? The Democrats are Mad at their 2000 VP candidate? How much longer until they're furious at their 2008 VP candidate, who opined in 2000, "It would be an honor to run WITH or against John McCain..."

Way to Deliver the Independents Joe!- If Reid Won't Lunch with you, Don't worry-The White House Dining Room Serves Lunch Daily:

"September 9, 2008
McCain Now Winning Majority of IndependentsMajority of independents now prefer him over Obama, 52% to 37%USA Democrats Election 2008 Government and Politics Republicans Americas Northern America by Lydia Saad
PRINCETON, NJ -- John McCain's 6 percentage-point bounce in voter support spanning the Republican National Convention is largely explained by political independents shifting to him in fairly big numbers, from 40% pre-convention to 52% post-convention in Gallup Poll Daily tracking.

By contrast, Democrats' support for McCain rose 5 percentage points over the GOP convention period, from 9% to 14%, while Republicans' already-high support stayed about the same.

The surge in political independents who favor McCain for president marks the first time since Gallup began tracking voters' general-election preferences in March that a majority of independents have sided with either of the two major-party candidates. Prior to now, McCain had received no better than 48% of the independent vote and Obama no better than 46%, making the race for the political middle highly competitive."

Posted by: Scott | September 9, 2008 11:58 PM | Report abuse

Palin talks about breaking the glass ceiling, but can somebody please first bust her out of that plexiglass cage provided by the McCain campaign?


Posted by: Billy Pilgrim | September 9, 2008 11:12 PM | Report abuse

So it took McCain being locked up and almost beat to death for him to start really lovin' his country...what is up with that?

I've never experienced such hell, but I still love my country despite Little Bush.

Words from the horses mouth...all about me then and now...his speech at the convention spoke volumes about his ego and wacko idea that he is some hero for the ages and our only hope.


He's shown that he'll do anything to win this election and sleep with his enemies. We call em' slippers in Hawaii, but you guys know them as flip-flops.

Posted by: Billy Pilgrim | September 9, 2008 10:57 PM | Report abuse

All I can say is:

You can put lipstick on Michelle, but she is still going to be Michelle...

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Posted by: DA Trehuba | September 9, 2008 10:51 PM | Report abuse

Hey...boneheads...McCain used the same lipstick comment when he described Hillary's health proposal earlier this year...I thought it was liberal stoners who had the short term memory...try again!

Them Repubs sure can pound the pots and pans...just like toddlers.

Posted by: Billy Pilgrim | September 9, 2008 10:48 PM | Report abuse

Chris:

Let's get a grip on ourselves here - just a few weeks ago you were saying that this election is "all about Obama" and you were wondering how the Republicans were going to deal with that.

That this election is "all about Obama" is out the window.


McCain-Palin have won the personality portion of the competition - everyone is talking about Sarah and no one cares about Obama anymore. In a sense, Obama is a victim of his own campaign strategy.


Clearly, Obama is suffering from another underreported aspect:


OBAMA LOOKS LIKE A LIGHT-WEIGHT NEXT TO JOE BIDEN. The democratic party superdelegates, in their rush to make a Presidential choice motivated more by affirmative action than qualifications, have completely destroyed the democratic party's chances this year.


superdelegates.


http://www.myspace.com/37thandostreet


The democratic party had two excellent candidates to choose from: Joe Biden and Chris Dodd - their contributions starved both for cash and the voters IGNORED ALL CONSIDERATION OF ACTUAL QUALIFICATIONS and picked Obama with Hillary second.


The democrats have only themselves to blame for fielding a weak candidate.


Actually Obama is a pathetic candidate - no experience in foreign policy - Obama has built a career on MAXING OUT EVERY AFFIRMATIVE ACTION PROGRAM HE COULD FIND UNTIL HE TURNED THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY DELEGATE SELECTION PROCESS INTO AN AFFIRMATIVE ACTION PROGRAM IN MICHIGAN AND FLORIDA.


The democratic party did it to themselves.


McCain is the stronger candidate - the people around him are brilliant - they put on an excellent convention which propelled McCain and Palin ahead in the polls by five points.


Obama's convention was horrible, it was a strain to watch the hillary-bill saga play out again.


How the Conventions are managed is important - McCain gets an A+++ and Obama gets a B- or C+.

Seriously Chris - McCain is the stronger candidate and he is extremely more qualified to be President - to vote for the other guy is to risk this nation's national security with some inexperienced affirmative-action guy who shouldn't even be in Washington.


Seriously Chris - this election is out of hand.


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Posted by: 37th&OStreet | September 9, 2008 10:43 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: 37thandOStreet | September 9, 2008 10:42 PM | Report abuse

McCain did not "crash" you scumbag he was shot down defending your right to free speech you communist obama ass kisser.

Muslim lover

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2008 10:39 PM | Report abuse

putting lipstick on a pig

A term used by many, generally in reference to someone who may be trying to make something or someone look appealing or attractive when it quite clearly will not work, or will only deceive the dumbest of people.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2008 10:31 PM | Report abuse

Obama will soon be known as the latest incarnation of George McGovern. The press can puff up Obama for only so long and then he has to act like a man and stand on his own two feet. Fat chance of that.

Posted by: foxborough1 | September 9, 2008 10:22 PM | Report abuse

Please stop spreading the rumor that "pollsters don't call people with cell phones." They do. Look at Gallup's website, they most certainly do, as do the other major pollsters.

Posted by: Enough | September 9, 2008 10:21 PM | Report abuse

"Dan you and your ilk for saying anything about McCain war record you scum."

Were you by chance wearing a Purple-Heart band-aid this time four years ago? Just curious.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2008 10:15 PM | Report abuse

As long as it was McCain and one of his boring VP options many people let their racist attitudes take a back seat to McCain as President. Eeegads, McCain was a loser.

Along comes Palin and some of the rasist voters are able to dump "the black man" in favor of someone who talks their language.

They were looking for an excuse not to vote for Obama and found it in Palin. The real problem will come when Palin reveals her "real self" in the next month or so and these bigots must once again consider a change of vote.

Posted by: BD | September 9, 2008 10:11 PM | Report abuse

"he was actually what we here in America call and"enemy Combatant" since we hadnt declared war until 69, or was it 70??

Posted by: Oh | September 9, 2008 10:03 PM

You should be run out of the country you communist. Typical Obama supporter....communist, socialist anarchist, out of touch anti american.

Dan you and your ilk for saying anything about McCain war record you scum.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2008 10:10 PM | Report abuse

The system is obviously new to you Cincinnati, where are you originally from?
Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2008 9:46 PM
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Queens County, New York.

So far from being "new" to the American political system, I have been studying it, lecturing on it and writing about it for 40+ years.

A real "outsider", De Tocqueville, was right some 160 years ago...and we Americans are still amazingly insular and unaware of the uniqueness of our own institutions.

Posted by: Cincinnati Rick | September 9, 2008 10:10 PM | Report abuse


In Huffington Post today, Seth Walls reports that the reason for the odd turn in the polls for Mac is that the polling companies are oversampling the other side. In other words, the methodology (which is flawed to begin with b/c of reliance on land phone calling) is gamed in favor of Mac. There was no convention bounce in actuality.

Seth Walls reports:
"This week's mainstream coverage of the presidential horse-race has been dominated by a series of polls showing the McCain-Palin ticket with its first stable lead over Obama and Biden. Gallup's tracking poll, USA Today and CBS News all show the Republicans with some kind of lead over the Democratic ticket. But, interestingly, all three polls were also conducted using a higher sampling of Republican voters than in July, raising a question of methodology."

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2008 10:06 PM | Report abuse

>> bondjed wrote: "Asspergirl - learn your candidate's name."

Thanks.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 9, 2008 10:06 PM | Report abuse

And please stop repeating over and over that McCain was a War hero.He crashed and was captured at a point when we were not at war with VietNam, not yet , anyway.So he was actually what we here in America call and"enemy Combatant" since we hadnt declared war until 69, or was it 70??

Posted by: Oh | September 9, 2008 10:03 PM | Report abuse

"Obama before Susan Palin appears:"

Asspergirl - learn your candidate's name.

Posted by: bondjedi | September 9, 2008 10:02 PM | Report abuse

Chris, i cant beleive some of the junk in this article.Obama loosing the personality contest for 2 months coming into the General, are you outta your mind. When did John Mccant wake up????About 2 days after he selected Palin as his running mate.
Nothing against aged people, but this is the funniest column of yours ive ever read. The only popularity contest MCCANT had won, if it actually matters, was at the Veterans of Foreign Wars meetings he attended, because he was the youngest in the crowd.

Posted by: You Crazy | September 9, 2008 9:58 PM | Report abuse

Every time I see KKK posted by a obomb addict I laugh out loud. Hilarious and such an idicator of just how brainwashed and stupid his supporters are.

Posted by: Your dad | September 9, 2008 9:58 PM | Report abuse

These polls are biased and out of touch with reality. The polls only poll "likely" voters ..what the heck does that mean.. and who makes up likely voters..do you think that the pollsters went into the inner city to poll likely voters //I think not..so these polls are biased and not worthy of the ink used to print them.

Posted by: lg. | September 9, 2008 9:57 PM | Report abuse

Dems CHOKE again!

Posted by: And... | September 9, 2008 9:55 PM | Report abuse

Hardy har and a great big he-haw. You losers in the Obama camp should be reading your Qurans right about this time of night shouldn't you? Obama is a muslim, goes to a racist church, hangs out with terrorists, invests in crooked land deals has a racist militant wife who is not proud of her country, has a preacher who damns america, won't wear a American flag pin, and has a funny name.

And you nutcases want him to be Prez?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2008 9:53 PM | Report abuse

OBAMA LAUNCHES PERSONAL, MISOGYNISTIC PALIN-BASHING
OBAMA: "LIPSTICK ON A PIG & SMELLS LIKE FISH"

"The newly-formed "Palin Truth Squad," sensing an opportunity to express outrage and portray Obama's comments as sexist, struck back at a comment made by Obama comparing the McCain ticket to "putting lipstick on a pig."

Obama drew the analogy while mocking the McCain campaign's new "change" message.

"You can put lipstick on a pig," he said to a laughing Ohio audience. "It's still a pig."

"You can wrap an old fish in a piece of paper called change. It's still gonna stink"

Obama: lipstick on a pig
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPd4yk0x-eg

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/09/09/politics/fromtheroad/entry4433206.shtml

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 9, 2008 9:53 PM | Report abuse

The system is obviously new to you Cincinnati, where are you originally from?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2008 9:46 PM | Report abuse

John McCain has opened up the can of worms of "personality," so the Obama campaign should go for it. Let's talk about McCain's personality and well-known problem with angry outbursts. Before he was the republican nominee, several republican congressmen commented on his temperament and whether he was fit for office. I remember one comment, which I'll paraphrase, which was "I'd be worried if his finger was on the button." All you have to do is google "John McCain and temper" and you can find many videos on YouTube of McCain losing it and calling people names, using the F-word, etc. He was caught on tape calling his wife the worst 4-letter word (starts with C) when she teased him about his hair getting thin on the campaign trail.

If this is a campaign about personality, I say time to "bring it on!" Let's go there.

Here's one link:
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/McCain_temper_boiled_over_in_92_0407.html

Posted by: bethechange1 | September 9, 2008 9:46 PM | Report abuse

Obama's on the losing end of the polls, as well.
White women-McCain by 20%
Independents-McCain by 15%

How horrible diddycrats must feel right now, with an inevitable, crushing defeat looming. It gets worse every time.


Libs have the press in the tank, the racist queen oprah in the tank, and billions of marxist dollars, and they're still losing.

Posted by: viejo1 | September 9, 2008 9:45 PM | Report abuse

This is what's know as a collapse of epic proportions for Obama.

This picture sums it up completely:

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2008/09/09/us/09donate0.600.jpg

Posted by: Josey Wales | September 9, 2008 9:42 PM | Report abuse

Obama in Scranton:

HOPE CHANGE HOPE CHANGE HOPE CHANGE ME ME ME I I I I ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME HOPE CHANGE HOPE CHANGE HOPE CHANGE HOPE CHANGE HOPE CHANGE

Obama in San Francisco:

LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT THEM BITTER WHITE TRASH!

Obama before Susan Palin appears:

ME ME ME MY $6 MILLION STAGE FIREWORKS ORCHESTRAL MUSICAL SCORE ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME MY HISTORIC WIN

Obama after Susan Palin appears:

HELO? HILLARY? THIS IS BARACK. LOOK I KNOW IT'S THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT... BUT CAN YOU HELP ME OUT?

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 9, 2008 9:40 PM | Report abuse

During an appearance on "Countdown with Keith Olbermann" last night, Obama pushed back hard on comments made last week by McCain campaign manager Rick Davis that "this election is not about issues" but rather about "a composite view of what people take away from these candidates."
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I think it is always a mistake to expect (and bemoan the failure of) the American political system to conduct elections centered on issues in the style of the European Parliamentary systems. We have, by constitutional design a representative democracy with limited popular participation. Elections involve the selection of candidates for our confidence in their character and judgment, not hewing in lock step to a party programme. Those who denigrate this as a "politics of personality" will only beggar their own capacity to grasp the reality of the system inevitably functioning according to its design.

But then, Obama was not seeking understanding, just trying to hit one of his talking points.

Posted by: Cincinnati Rick | September 9, 2008 9:37 PM | Report abuse

One change barry has made is that he's doing his veep's job. Where's joltin' joe? Hidin' and shakin'.

Posted by: viejo1 | September 9, 2008 9:35 PM | Report abuse

To WP moderators:
You have not been moderating well. You are allowing ignorant and bigoted posters to comment, thus diminishing the integrity of your newspaper.

Posted by: Concerned citizen | September 9, 2008 9:33 PM | Report abuse

You have not been moderating well. You are allowing ignorant and bigoted posters to comment, thus diminishing the integrity of your newspaper.

Posted by: To WP moderators | September 9, 2008 9:30 PM | Report abuse

A whole bunch of ignorant tough talk in this post.

McCain and Palin will shoot themselves in the foot right after they pull it out of their mouths...the RNC would be wise to keep her in her plexiglass cage.

Posted by: Billy Pilgrim | September 9, 2008 9:28 PM | Report abuse

With such a huge turn out of racist remarks on this thread, all supporting Palen, it's clear she is the KKK's kind of woman.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2008 9:25 PM | Report abuse

DEMOCRATIC FEMINISTS ARE TOOLS OF THEIR PARTY
MESSAGE TO DEMOCRATIC FEMINISTS:

"SHUT UP AND GET ON BOARD!"

They stood by when Hillary Clinton took this gleeful, sexist bashing day after day while they looked away.

DEMOCRATIC FEMINISTS TAKE ORDERS FROM THEIR PARTY:

"SHUT UP AND GET ON BOARD"

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 9, 2008 9:25 PM | Report abuse

Not so.

Unlike the MSM bloviators, journalist Charley James of laprogressive.com actually went to Alaska and actually interviewed Alaskans about Palin. They personally told him of the racial slurs against Barack and Eskimos. Ugly stuff. When you read the James article you get the sense the interviewees were holding back information. Hard news reporting by James, the MSM should try it sometime.
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More lies and smears from the left....

" Charley James published a serious investigative article dated Sept. 5 detailing Palin's [alleged] racial slurs against Barack and against Eskimos, which were witnessed by a third party in Alaska."

Her husband is part Eskimo you moron.

Liars and racists is what the Dems represent

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2008 9:24 PM | Report abuse

Chris, As a previous poster points out, you display your enormous bias in the lead, "some national polls suggest" that McCain has moved into a tie....

The polls are not suggesting. They are showing large gains for McCain. Interesting in how the power of the mainstream media is diminishing and more and more people are becoming aware of the enormous bias in plain newsreporting to say nothing of the hitman opinion pieces of Eugene Robinson and A.J. Dione.

Posted by: Rocco | September 9, 2008 9:23 PM | Report abuse

Gov. Palin:
Raised taxes as the Gov. of Alaska
Misled America about the Bridge to Nowhere, in her first national speech (She fully supported it and only killed it after the funding was cut anyhow) and continues to do so as many as four times a day on the campaign stump. She never returned the funds for the Bridge to Nowhere.
A 2006 question to Governor Palin …”Would you continue state funding for the proposed Knik Arm and Gravina Island bridges?”
Answer: “Yes. I would like to see Alaska's infrastructure projects built sooner rather than later. The window is now - while our congressional delegation is in a strong position to assist.”
Wants to teach creationism in Science Class, subverting the US Constitution
Tried to get books banned at the local library
Fired her entire staff 10 days into term as mayor, for lack of loyalty
Used every available lever to get an enemy fired from his job, and is still lying about it
Put a gag order on her administration as mayor of a town of 6500
Milked the Federal Government for huge series of earmarks, by using Jack Abramoff lobbyists. The highest per capita earmarker in the nation: Palin (27 Million for a town of 6500)
Charged 52 earmarks valued at $256 million in her first year as Alaska Governor and 31 earmarks valued at $197 million this year. Considerably HIGHER than Barrack Obama’s Eamark list he released in March of 2008 in the spirit of transparency.
Billed taxpayers in Alaska $43,490 for staying in her own home.
Touts the need to address special needs children but only did so by stepping in at the last minute to support a bill that she was chided for NOT supporting previously despite her sister having a child with autism.
Doesn’t believe in Global Warming
Used Alaska First as her campaign slogan, which is the same one as her husband’s old party, the AIP, a secessionist organization she recorded a supportive piece for this year! She was also the keynote speaker for AIP on several occasions and her husband was an ardent supporter and member of AIP.
The AIP founder Joe Voglar once stated, “I'm an Alaskan, not an American. I've got no use for America or her damned institutions." and "The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government. And I won't be buried under their damn flag. I'll be buried in Dawson. And when Alaska is an independent nation they can bring my bones home."
Wants to ban stem cell research
Is on the record stating the Iraq war ”Is a task from God.”
In July when interviewed about the possibility of being the VP she stated that she did not know what the VP did.
Left her town Mayoralty with a huge debt, having outspent all around in her (21 MILION in debt)
And, perhaps worst of all, Palin would insist that my 14 daughter carry and birth a rapist’s child

Does anyone else find it utterly amazing, mind numbing and surreal that the republicans are running on a change platform borrowed from Obama to storm their own castle??!! Repub chant...."We suck, We Suck but NOW Were Different." This cranky guy cant even operate the internet to read your opinion. But change is coming......ya right like what more trickle down economics, fear mongering, politicizing 9/11 and questioning patriotism? Privitizing anything and everything to line the pockets of your friends? Lying repeatedly to the American people, 3 TRILLION in debt and POOF! A new republican party!!!! transformed from the last eight years and catapulted into the future! Yippeee like Slim Pickens riding the bomb through the sky in Dr Strangelove. Hello Joe Mccarthy is that you? Mr. McCarthy would be proud. So would David Blaine. Abracadabra!!

Last year Mccain said while criticizing health proposals from the Democratic presidential candidates, he said Hillary Rodham Clinton's resembled the failed plan she offered as first lady during the 1990s. "I think they put some lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig," McCain of her proposal.

Posted by: feastorafamine | September 9, 2008 9:21 PM | Report abuse

"Hey Barak.....your 15 mins is over..get in the back of the bus."

Ratso, the racist is you.


Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2008 9:18 PM | Report abuse

Mr. Barber- I did not listen to Mr. Obama's speech. Your post said it was issue oriented so I went back and reviewed it on the MSNBC site. Thanks for making my evening by giving me a great laugh! He said in that speech "I want to go back and change the bankruptcy laws of this country". What!!! He better run that by his VP candidate Mr. Biden. You see, Joe voted for that bankruptcy bill because his son was a lobbyist for MBNA in Wilmington who wanted to close the loophole on consumer bankruptcy filings. AND GUESS WHAT- OBAMA VOTED FOR THE SAME BILL. Now he goes before the country and tries to convince everyone that he's Everyman's Presidential Candidate. That one line- by itself- proves what a fraud this guy really is. America is not that gullible Mr. Obama. p.s. Where's Waldo? (I meant Joe).

Posted by: ej | September 9, 2008 9:15 PM | Report abuse

AsperGirl, go back to your Klan meeting and watch Birth of the Nation while the rest of us try to elect a president based on ideas and issues, not the amount of melanin in someone's skin.

Posted by: Ann | September 9, 2008 9:13 PM | Report abuse

More lies and smears from the left....

" Charley James published a serious investigative article dated Sept. 5 detailing Palin's [alleged] racial slurs against Barack and against Eskimos, which were witnessed by a third party in Alaska."

Her husband is part Eskimo you moron.

Liars and racists is what the Dems represent.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2008 9:11 PM | Report abuse

That RNC convention looked like an arena full of white lobbyists. Not very reflective of the America I know.

Sounds like Palin is on a loop...same one liners all week...just pull her string...ignore the man behind the curtain and her true record.

She will have to face questions just like the rest of em' one day.

I'm still in shock that these good old, super citizen, oil drillin' fools still have the ability to create interest in their ignorant, short sighted messages, but then again this is the country that elected Little Bush twice!

Another election not about the issues and some people are okay with that?


Posted by: Billy Pilgrim | September 9, 2008 9:11 PM | Report abuse

We were gonna have a campaign on the issues? No one told me. All I've heard so far from the MSM is the Clintons are power-hungry racists, Obama's a celebrity (and maybe a muslim, shhh), everyone in the media is sexist, Palin is some book-burning religious nut and John McCain is in love with George Bush.

I think a few quick discussions about the issues would be a strange new development, but I would welcome it.

Posted by: Grueschenka | September 9, 2008 9:08 PM | Report abuse

Look at this idiot...

"Does anyone know the Ms. Palin's views on diversity or minorities (other than women). I haven't seen any people of color speaking on her behalf. No speech writers, personal friends, support staff, neighbors, former classmates...nothing!"


She doesn't like anyone unless they are white. Happy now? btw Asians do not like to be called "Minorities" just losers who whine about diversity....

Posted by: Ratso Rizzo | September 9, 2008 9:08 PM | Report abuse

Answer: Yes. On laprogressive.com, Charley James published a serious investigative article dated Sept. 5 detailing Palin's [alleged] racial slurs against Barack and against Eskimos, which were witnessed by a third party in Alaska. Pretty bad stuff. Politico.com today referenced the James article, as many other respected Internet sites had previously. MSM is dodging the story.
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Does anyone know the Ms. Palin's views on diversity or minorities (other than women). I haven't seen any people of color speaking on her behalf. No speech writers, personal friends, support staff, neighbors, former classmates...nothing! Wehn i say people of color I mean, any other color than white - Asians, Hispanics, Latin Americans, African-Americans, Indians, etc. It would be interesting to hear her views on those she seeks to govern. The snow in Alaska, doesn't seem to be the only thing that is all white. I'm just interested in what is going to affect me and mine.

Posted by: svdt | September 9, 2008 8:53 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2008 9:06 PM | Report abuse

^^^ What if Obama's Conscience Spoke at the Same Time He Did? ^^^
^^^ Annotated transcript of Obama's Nomination Acceptance Speech ^^^

>>"Four years ago, I stood before you and told you my story -- of the brief union between a young man from Kenya and a young woman from Kansas who weren't well-off or well-known, but shared a belief that in America, their son could achieve whatever he put his mind to."

--Four years ago, I laid a big one on you out of my fictionalized life story that I made about my drunken, polygamist, already-married Kenyan father who knocked up my then-17-year-old mother and then abandoned us.

>>"It is that promise that has always set this country apart -- that through hard work and sacrifice, each of us can pursue our individual dreams but still come together as one American family, to ensure that the next generation can pursue their dreams as well."

--And where people like me can get ahead on racial preference and affirmative action, so that we advance without ever actually doing anything resembling hard work and sacrifice like you people!

>>"It is why I stand here tonight. Because for 232 years, at each moment when that promise was in jeopardy, ordinary men and women -- students and soldiers, farmers and teachers, nurses and janitors -- found the courage to keep it alive."

--And support my undeserved advancement and also pay for my racial preference scholarships and all the gravy train that has come my way over the years! The donations of millions of african american supporters -- students and soldiers, farmers and teachers, nurses and janitors -- paid my campaign the $6 million that it cost to move my nominating night event from the Pepsi arena to Invesco field in the Temple of Obama!

>>"We meet at one of those defining moments -- a moment when our nation is at war, our economy is in turmoil, and the American promise has been threatened once more."

--And the Democratic party is nominating a president with no experience or qualifications that might make him a credible executive!! I couldn't get hired to run a factory!! Ha Ha!

>>"Tonight, more Americans are out of work and more are working harder for less. More of you have lost your homes and more are watching your home values plummet. More of you have cars you can't afford to drive, credit card bills you can't afford to pay and tuition that is beyond your reach"

--And yet you have sent $400 million to my presidential campaign! That I keep spending on helping the voters get to know me better! As if that's the problem! What suckers!

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In David Mendell's 2007 biography, Obama, it was reported that Obama was a B student whose grades slipped so far below a B at High School that in his final year his grandmother feared he would not get into a university. The chapter ends with him being accepted into Occidental on a full scholarship.

The NYT has published a letter written by Obama in 1990, that discusses his own experiences with affirmative action.

(http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/03/us/politics/03affirmative.html?_r=2&em=&oref=slogin&pagewanted=print&oref=slogin)

Mr. Obama quote: “[I] undoubtedly benefited from affirmative action” in [my] own academic career.

Posted by: Barack Obama's Conscience | September 9, 2008 9:04 PM | Report abuse

Oops!

Last year Mccain said while criticizing health proposals from the Democratic presidential candidates, he said Hillary Rodham Clinton's resembled the failed plan she offered as first lady during the 1990s. "I think they put some lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig," McCain of her proposal.

Posted by: feastorafamine | September 9, 2008 9:00 PM | Report abuse

Chris- you begin your article by saying "some national polls suggest" that McCain has moved into a statistic tie with Obama- are you kidding me. Did anyone ever lead a story with "some polls suggest that Obama leads McCain" as if to call the polls into question? No. Then the polls were gospel. And to correct your lead, its not a statistical tie. Gallup has McCain ahead. This is like a reflex with the media. You show your bias even when you believe you are going out of your way to be fair. Obama did loose the personality contest today. Mark this day down. With the set up to the various outlets before his speach in Virginia from his staff on Palin's "lipstick" comment, Barack couldn't help himself. He made what will be by the end of the week the infamous "lipstick on a pig comment". Obama has now been shown not to be that charismatic world person, but just another snarky local politician. A different kind of politics? I don't think so. P.S.- I hear they are going to put out one of those new games called "Where's Joe" to replace the "Where's Waldo" brand. Anyone seen Biden???? Also just across the wire. More bad news for Barack. Oil has dropped below $100 a barrell. First Iraq goes well and now the economy is turning around. What's a negative campaign going to turn to?????

Posted by: ej | September 9, 2008 9:00 PM | Report abuse

I ordered extrastrength Troll spray for overnight delivery for AsperClown but it hasn't come yet.

Hey, AClown get some sleep. Joe at MickeyD's is only going to hold the fries consultant job open until 8:00 tomorrow. You don't want to stay "unoccupied," do you? Tell us how it goes. Regards.

Posted by: Mud People | September 9, 2008 8:59 PM | Report abuse

AsperGirl
Suddenly, common analogies are sexist?

Nice try. Its a phrase Obama is fond of. he has usued it over and over in reference to numrous things. One such example....

In 2007
'I think that both General Petraeus and Ambassador Crocker are capable people who have been given an impossible assignment,' Sen. Barack Obama said yesterday in a telephone interview. 'George Bush has given a mission to General Petraeus, and he has done his best to try to figure out how to put lipstick on a pig.


Posted by: feastorafamine | September 9, 2008 8:55 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone know the Ms. Palin's views on diversity or minorities (other than women). I haven't seen any people of color speaking on her behalf. No speech writers, personal friends, support staff, neighbors, former classmates...nothing! Wehn i say people of color I mean, any other color than white - Asians, Hispanics, Latin Americans, African-Americans, Indians, etc. It would be interesting to hear her views on those she seeks to govern. The snow in Alaska, doesn't seem to be the only thing that is all white. I'm just interested in what is going to affect me and mine.

Posted by: svdt | September 9, 2008 8:53 PM | Report abuse

>>Douglas L. Barber wrote: "Mr. Obama made an issue-oriented speech at the Democratic National Convention. Folks looking for partisan red meat were disappointed...I'm happy to sign my real name to this post."

It's great you're willing to sign your name to your post, which is naive & wrong. Your belief that Obama hasn't become ugly & attacking is naive & wrong, too.

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OBAMA LAUNCHES MORE MISOGYNISTIC PALIN-BASHING
OBAMA: "LIPSTICK ON A PIG & SMELLS LIKE FISH"

"The newly-formed "Palin Truth Squad," sensing an opportunity to express outrage and portray Obama's comments as sexist, struck back at a comment made by Obama comparing the McCain ticket to "putting lipstick on a pig."

"Obama drew the analogy while mocking the McCain campaign's new "change" message.

"You can put lipstick on a pig," he said to a laughing Ohio audience. "It's still a pig."



"You can wrap an old fish in a piece of paper called change. It's still gonna stink"

http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/0908/Palin_Truth_Squad_strikes_back_at_Obama_comment.html

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 9, 2008 8:50 PM | Report abuse

I love how the media glamoratizes palin. She was a piss poor mayor that was constantly under scrutiny. Keep in mind that men out number women 6 to 1 and when you get a candidate that runs for any office here in Alaska, its more than likely we vote for the person with the best Assets. As for barely peforming the job as a governer, we alaskans are wondering why the rest of the country actually believes (knowing what we know!!) that she would be a great fit. read the facts!! log on to Anchorage daily news and find out the real stories, the real facts without out the hype.

Posted by: alaskan | September 9, 2008 8:44 PM | Report abuse

AsperGirl wrote all of the following:

"No one wants to be harassed, afraid & threatened by a black man. The media apparently doesn't realize that America not only doesn't share its reflexive hatred of Sarah Palin, but the personal destruction campaign she faces is scary. It's the spectacle of a white woman being dismantled & destroyed by a black man.

"And with Obama's pivot to a negative campaign against the Republicans & McCain, he's taken an ugly turn, too. He's gone from being an uplifting man to being an angry, hectoring black man.

"Sorry, had to say it.

"Getting very ugly now out there... sigh."

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I take it, Aspergirl, that although you're willing to make the ugliest of allegations against Mr. Obama, you didn't actually watch Mr. Obama's speech at the Democratic National Convention, nor Ms. Palin's speech at the Republican National Convention.

There is no other charitable way I can interpret your comments.

Lest I be obtuse, let me explain.

Mr. Obama made an issue-oriented speech at the Democratic National Convention. Folks looking for partisan red meat were disappointed.

Ms. Palin made a bitingly partisan attack-Obama speech at the Republican National Convention. This fact was widely gloated upon in the right wing press/blogosphere (for instance, National Review).

I'm happy to sign my real name to this post.

Posted by: Douglas L. Barber | September 9, 2008 8:44 PM | Report abuse

TO ALL MORON MCCAIN/PALIN SPEECH WRITERS, SUPPORTERS AND IDIOT PUNDITS:

The backdrop to Obama's Acceptance Speech was suggestive of the columns of the Lincoln Memorial -- since Obama was paying tribute to the 45 Anniversary of the Martin Luther King "I Have A Dream" Speech.

I am freaking SICK TO DEATH OF YOUR STUPID LIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(I know this won't change anything because Republicans lie like rugs -- but, at least it is out of my system.)

Posted by: Louise | September 9, 2008 8:43 PM | Report abuse

It always bears repeating.....

Gov. Palin:
Raised taxes as the Gov. of Alaska
Misled America about the Bridge to Nowhere, in her first national speech (She fully supported it and only killed it after the funding was cut anyhow) and continues to do so as many as four times a day on the campaign stump. She never returned the funds for the Bridge to Nowhere.
A 2006 question to Governor Palin …”Would you continue state funding for the proposed Knik Arm and Gravina Island bridges?”
Answer: “Yes. I would like to see Alaska's infrastructure projects built sooner rather than later. The window is now - while our congressional delegation is in a strong position to assist.”
Wants to teach creationism in Science Class, subverting the US Constitution
Tried to get books banned at the local library
Fired her entire staff 10 days into term as mayor, for lack of loyalty
Used every available lever to get an enemy fired from his job, and is still lying about it
Put a gag order on her administration as mayor of a town of 6500
Milked the Federal Government for huge series of earmarks, by using Jack Abramoff lobbyists. The highest per capita earmarker in the nation: Palin (27 Million for a town of 6500)
Charged 52 earmarks valued at $256 million in her first year as Alaska Governor and 31 earmarks valued at $197 million this year. Considerably HIGHER than Barrack Obama’s Eamark list he released in March of 2008 in the spirit of transparency.
Billed taxpayers in Alaska $43,490 for staying in her own home.
Touts the need to address special needs children but only did so by stepping in at the last minute to support a bill that she was chided for NOT supporting previously despite her sister having a child with autism.
Doesn’t believe in Global Warming
Used Alaska First as her campaign slogan, which is the same one as her husband’s old party, the AIP, a secessionist organization she recorded a supportive piece for this year! She was also the keynote speaker for AIP on several occasions and her husband was an ardent supporter and member of AIP.
The AIP founder Joe Voglar once stated, “I'm an Alaskan, not an American. I've got no use for America or her damned institutions." and "The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government. And I won't be buried under their damn flag. I'll be buried in Dawson. And when Alaska is an independent nation they can bring my bones home."
Wants to ban stem cell research
Is on the record stating the Iraq war ”Is a task from God.”
In July when interviewed about the possibility of being the VP she stated that she did not know what the VP did.
Left her town Mayoralty with a huge debt, having outspent all around in her (21 MILION in debt)
And, perhaps worst of all, Palin would insist that my 14 daughter carry and birth a rapist’s child

Does anyone else find it utterly amazing, mind numbing and surreal that the republicans are running on a change platform borrowed from Obama to storm their own castle??!! Repub chant...."We suck, We Suck but NOW Were Different." This cranky guy cant even operate the internet to read your opinion. But change is coming......ya right like what more trickle down economics, fear mongering, politicizing 9/11 and questioning patriotism? Privitizing anything and everything to line the pockets of your friends? Lying repeatedly to the American people, 3 TRILLION in debt and POOF! A new republican party!!!! transformed from the last eight years and catapulted into the future! Yippeee like Slim Pickens riding the bomb through the sky in Dr Strangelove. Hello Joe Mccarthy is that you? Mr. McCarthy would be proud. So would David Blaine. Abracadabra!!

Posted by: feastorafamine | September 9, 2008 8:43 PM | Report abuse

If you listen to the tape, O actually didn't slip up. George, cleverly, just made it seem that way.

O was referring, correctly, to the slur about "my Muslim faith." George then said you mean "Christian faith." O then said "Yeah" or something and George's little trick was completed. O could not undo it.

George is the same trickster who asked O during the debates, "Do you think Rev Wright loves America as much as you do?" Now let's see if his ABC colleague Charlie Gibson asks Palin about all the "rumors" about her. Not likely.

Is Charley James, the laprogressive.com reporter who broke the story about Palin's serial racial slurs, the only journalist doing real reporting. Charley actually interviewed real people in Alaska about Palin. Let Charley James interview Palin; that would get a 65+ TV share.
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The Washington Times:

Obama's verbal slip fuels his critics
Christina Bellantoni (Contact)
Sunday, September 7, 2008


ST. LOUIS, Mo. - Sen. Barack Obama's foes seized Sunday upon a brief slip of the tongue, when the Democratic presidential nominee was outlining his Christianity but accidentally said, "my Muslim faith."

The three words -- immediately corrected -- were during an exchange with ABC's George Stephanopoulos on "This Week," when he was trying to criticize the quiet smear campaign suggesting he is a Muslim."

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2008 8:42 PM | Report abuse

I see AsperGirl is back, our Wal-Mart mom from Colorado who brags about the manliness of the drunken oafs that constitute the right. First, "dear", there are a lot of liberals who hunt and fish and shoot and occasionally run into these drunken dweebs. You're a fly fisher"person", so I know you see them, too. These are the sorts that kill fish on no kill sections, catch four or five limits, toss their empty beer cans and other garbage around like so many McCain campaign promises, so I am pretty sure you are aware of the "manly" quality of these doofus'. Oh, and may I mention that I shoot 300 meter international freestyle and I have yet to run into one of these idiots that I can't simply humiliate. Oh, and PPS, hey are generally lousy hunters, too. Of, course, that could be because they are simply white trash, but who knows.

Posted by: mibrooks27 | September 9, 2008 8:39 PM | Report abuse

Speaking of personality, Sarah Palin is a person who shot her pet rabbit when she was 10 years old, and derives pleasure from killing animals, a hobby she has viciously pursued since the incident with the helpless bunny. Is this a "compassionate conservative"? Her core, and the core of the Republican party and its supporters is cruelty. That is what you McCain supporters really get off on. You will enjoy dismantling Medicare, and you really get a kick out of the misery of the working class in this country. It's true that the US electorate is unfathomably stupid, and will probably vote itself more and deeper misery. But I would like it if just once, one of you heartless sadists would admit who you are.

Since I am a vegan animal rights activist, I find this highly disturbing but then again I have always found that across the board Republicans are the worst when it comes to protecting animals from cruelty. That being said, Democrats have an excellent record with protecting animals and the environment, Kerry, Gore, Clinton whom all I voted for, had a 100% humane scorecard rating. Obama never voted on anything so I have no idea where he stands on this issue but I do know that he was rude and dismissive towards Clinton(s), so I am left with voting for the green party this election.

Posted by: Shelby | September 9, 2008 8:38 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2008 8:35 PM | Report abuse

I bet Biden's going to resign & Clinton will step in to be on Obama's ticket either on the top or bottom.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 9, 2008 8:34 PM | Report abuse

Here is a link to a vid where Obama refers to "my Muslim"faith...

http://mccain08-hillary2012.blogspot.com/2008/09/oops-did-i-hear-obama-say-he-was-muslim.html

Posted by: McCain08/Hillary12 | September 9, 2008 8:31 PM | Report abuse

You just DON'T GET IT. This election is about the Supreme Court. Y'all want decisions about your own life and death taken out of your hands and handed to the REALLY FREAKY religious right, then vote for McCain-Palin.

The Republican Machine has decided they can run ANYONE and beat the Democratic Party based on personality. I have relatives who think they are in that upper 1% because they make $75K per year, and that the Democrats will tax the bejesus out of them.

The Republicans tapped into the FACT that most voters don't know anything but names and images, and that you can put a lie out there long enough and people will believe it, even if it is LATER shown to be a lie. I can only hope that we can get enough people who actually THINK to vote this year. And maybe get some who don't think to like us enough to vote for Obama simply because we are nice and not pushy and seem friendly. You can't just blog or write letters to the editors this election. You have to get out and "press the flesh" -- register people, talk to them and personalize this election.

Posted by: DianeinNC | September 9, 2008 8:30 PM | Report abuse

You are a disgrace to all the Aspers in the world. A sad pathetic excuse for an Asper.

Send us your address so we can send you a CD of "Greatest Moments from the Don Imus Show" as well as a Schlick razor to keep that skinhead of yours nice and clean.
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"No one wants to be harassed, afraid & threatened by a black man. The media apparently doesn't realize that America not only doesn't share its reflexive hatred of Sarah Palin, but the personal destruction campaign she faces is scary. It's the spectacle of a white woman being dismantled & destroyed by a black man.

And with Obama's pivot to a negative campaign against the Republicans & McCain, he's taken an ugly turn, too. He's gone from being an uplifting man to being an angry, hectoring black man.

Sorry, had to say it.

Getting very ugly now out there... sigh.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 9, 2008" 8:16 PM

Posted by: Mud People | September 9, 2008 8:25 PM | Report abuse

Speaking of personality, Sarah Palin is a person who shot her pet rabbit when she was 10 years old, and derives pleasure from killing animals, a hobby she has viciously pursued since the incident with the helpless bunny. Is this a "compassionate conservative"? Her core, and the core of the Republican party and its supporters is cruelty. That is what you McCain supporters really get off on. You will enjoy dismantling Medicare, and you really get a kick out of the misery of the working class in this country. It's true that the US electorate is unfathomably stupid, and will probably vote itself more and deeper misery. But I would like it if just once, one of you heartless sadists would admit who you are.

Posted by: Elizabeth | September 9, 2008 8:25 PM | Report abuse

The Washington Times:

Obama's verbal slip fuels his critics
Christina Bellantoni (Contact)
Sunday, September 7, 2008


ST. LOUIS, Mo. - Sen. Barack Obama's foes seized Sunday upon a brief slip of the tongue, when the Democratic presidential nominee was outlining his Christianity but accidentally said, "my Muslim faith."

The three words -- immediately corrected -- were during an exchange with ABC's George Stephanopoulos on "This Week," when he was trying to criticize the quiet smear campaign suggesting he is a Muslim.

But illustrating the difficulty of preventing false rumors about his faith from spreading, anti-Obama groups within one hour of the interview had sliced it out of context and were sending it around via email. They also were blogging about it.

Mr. Obama, who is a Christian and often proudly speaks about how his faith has influenced his public service, said he finds it "deeply offensive" that there are efforts "coming out of the Republican camp to suggest that perhaps I'm not who I say I am when it comes to my faith."

AGAIN, TALK ABOUT A FREUIDIAN SLIP! WHAT'S THIS ALL ABOUT, HUH? WHY WOULD OBAMA EVEN THINK TO SAY "MUSLIM" WHEN HE WAS TALKING ABOUT HIS "CHRISTIAN" FAITH, HUH?

AND IT IS A FACT THAT THE UNFRIENDLY MIDDLE EAST COUNTRIES, PARTICULARLY THE NUMBER ONE STATE SPONSOR OF TERRORISM IN THE WORLD, IRAN, IS VERY MUCH LOOKING FORWARD TO AN OBAMA PRESIDENCY! THEY SEE HIM AS MORE "RECEPTIVE' TO THEIR WORLD VIEW!

SORRY, O, YOU DON'T NOW, NOR EVER, BELONG ANYWHERE NEAR THE WHITE HOUSE! YOU'RE SIMPLY NOT RIGHT, IN ANY WAY FOR THIS JOB-IN ANY WAY!

Posted by: DEMS FOR NOBAMA | September 9, 2008 8:22 PM | Report abuse

In this economy, personality vs. substance is no contest--substance will win.

Palin is the "It Girl" of the moment. Hollywood Beauty Queen "It Girls" are the talk of the town one day, and forgotten the next day. Just look at Palin's sister "It Girls" Britney Spears and Paris Hilton.

In the end, this election won't be about the "It Girl", it will be about the economy. Palin's pretty face and cutesy personality won't put food on my table and keep a roof over my head.

Posted by: socalgal59 | September 9, 2008 8:20 PM | Report abuse

The big news of the day: former NY Major Ed Koch endorsing Obama.

Look, Ed likes AAs as much as G. Ferraro likes strolling through Harlem at 1am. For Ed to weigh in for Obama because Sarah (men walked with dinosaurs-global warming is a hoax) Palin is "scary" is a huge development not picked up by the polls.

Query: when does HRC plan to legitimately campaign for O? In December? The reports are that she and her lost patrol of 18 Hillarians still will not challenge Mrs. Todd Palin's absurd candidacy.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2008 8:18 PM | Report abuse

Probably through np fault of her own since they put the words in her mouth. They have so buried her in lie on top of lie if she does do an interview she will have to take the 5th.


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Waiting.... waiting..... I'm WAITING for Sarah Palin to just SAY ONE UNSCRIPTED WORD!!!! It has been 12 days! 12 days and nary a peep out of Palin that hasn't been read from a teleprompter!!! Let's see if she has the GUTS to hold a MSM press conference just like every other unknown VP candidate has done in the last 40 years! (and most, within DAYS of their selection!) Even poor Dan Quayle held one the next day after he was chosen by Bush 41!!! LOL!!! Can't Sarah talk off the top of her head? Is she afraid she'll have to defend "Iraq is God's Plan" - or maybe explain why she wants CREATIONISM taught in PUBLIC schools - or discuss her views on BANNING LIBRARY BOOKS???? Can't wait to hear Sarah UNSCRIPTED!!! What's the matter? Don't the good ole GOP boys running the McCain campaign have any CONFIDENCE in their pick?? Seems like male chauvinism at work here. LET SARAH SPEAK!!! We want a SUBSTANTIVE NEWS CONFERENCE - not a fluff piece by Charlie Gibson. If she is so terrified and afraid to hold A MSM PRESS CONFERENCE, how on earth could she stand up to Putin, if necessary??


Posted by: Carol | September 9, 2008 8:02 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2008 8:16 PM | Report abuse

Oh, the last, big, deadly personality problem that the Obama campaign faces is that the more negative and abusive they & the media & the Alaskan witchhunt gets against Palin, the backlash is going to be against the Obama campaign.

Now, I have to speak about race.

No one wants to be harassed, afraid & threatened by a black man. The media apparently doesn't realize that America not only doesn't share its reflexive hatred of Sarah Palin, but the personal destruction campaign she faces is scary. It's the spectacle of a white woman being dismantled & destroyed by a black man.

And with Obama's pivot to a negative campaign against the Republicans & McCain, he's taken an ugly turn, too. He's gone from being an uplifting man to being an angry, hectoring black man.

Sorry, had to say it.

Getting very ugly now out there... sigh.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 9, 2008 8:16 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: 37th&OStreet | September 9, 2008 8:08 PM | Report abuse

Chris:

Let's get a grip on ourselves here - just a few weeks ago you were saying that this election is "all about Obama" and you were wondering how the Republicans were going to deal with that.

That this election is "all about Obama" is out the window.


McCain-Palin have won the personality portion of the competition - everyone is talking about Sarah and no one cares about Obama anymore. In a sense, Obama is a victim of his own campaign strategy.


Clearly, Obama is suffering from another underreported aspect:


OBAMA LOOKS LIKE A LIGHT-WEIGHT NEXT TO JOE BIDEN. The democratic party superdelegates, in their rush to make a Presidential choice motivated more by affirmative action than qualifications, have completely destroyed the democratic party's chances this year.


superdelegates.


http://www.myspace.com/37thandostreet


The democratic party had two excellent candidates to choose from: Joe Biden and Chris Dodd - their contributions starved both for cash and the voters IGNORED ALL CONSIDERATION OF ACTUAL QUALIFICATIONS and picked Obama with Hillary second.


The democrats have only themselves to blame for fielding a weak candidate.


Actually Obama is a pathetic candidate - no experience in foreign policy - Obama has built a career on MAXING OUT EVERY AFFIRMATIVE ACTION PROGRAM HE COULD FIND UNTIL HE TURNED THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY DELEGATE SELECTION PROCESS INTO AN AFFIRMATIVE ACTION PROGRAM IN MICHIGAN AND FLORIDA.


The democratic party did it to themselves.


McCain is the stronger candidate - the people around him are brilliant - they put on an excellent convention which propelled McCain and Palin ahead in the polls by five points.


Obama's convention was horrible, it was a strain to watch the hillary-bill saga play out again.


How the Conventions are managed is important - McCain gets an A+++ and Obama gets a B- or C+.

Seriously Chris - McCain is the stronger candidate and he is extremely more qualified to be President - to vote for the other guy is to risk this nation's national security with some inexperienced affirmative-action guy who shouldn't even be in Washington.


Seriously Chris - this election is out of hand.


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Posted by: 37th&OStreet | September 9, 2008 8:07 PM | Report abuse

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it". Joseph Goebbels

The problem as usual is that the Republicans understand this and the Democrats are too stupid to understand.

Posted by: Oscar | September 9, 2008 8:05 PM | Report abuse

Waiting.... waiting..... I'm WAITING for Sarah Palin to just SAY ONE UNSCRIPTED WORD!!!! It has been 12 days! 12 days and nary a peep out of Palin that hasn't been read from a teleprompter!!! Let's see if she has the GUTS to hold a MSM press conference just like every other unknown VP candidate has done in the last 40 years! (and most, within DAYS of their selection!) Even poor Dan Quayle held one the next day after he was chosen by Bush 41!!! LOL!!! Can't Sarah talk off the top of her head? Is she afraid she'll have to defend "Iraq is God's Plan" - or maybe explain why she wants CREATIONISM taught in PUBLIC schools - or discuss her views on BANNING LIBRARY BOOKS???? Can't wait to hear Sarah UNSCRIPTED!!! What's the matter? Don't the good ole GOP boys running the McCain campaign have any CONFIDENCE in their pick?? Seems like male chauvinism at work here. LET SARAH SPEAK!!! We want a SUBSTANTIVE NEWS CONFERENCE - not a fluff piece by Charlie Gibson. If she is so terrified and afraid to hold A MSM PRESS CONFERENCE, how on earth could she stand up to Putin, if necessary??


Posted by: Carol | September 9, 2008 8:02 PM | Report abuse

Hey Aspergirl, keep up the good work. I can't handle any more of the Dems whining on this blog.

Posted by: Happy Republican | September 9, 2008 7:59 PM | Report abuse

Oh yaaaah Zouk is back. That monstrous troll from 2006 who swore he'd take his stupid comment off the Post's pages forever if the Democrats won seats.

Like most bone headed Republicans he just can't keep his word.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2008 7:53 PM | Report abuse

Something interesting:

Under Palin, Wasilla charged rape victims for rape examination kits. They didn't mind burdening taxpayers for a sports complex, but a rape test-kit was "too much of a taxpayer burden." Then governor Tony Knowles in 2000 signed legislation to protect rape victims from exactly this. But the chief of police appointed by Palin, Charlie Fannon, made the above statement about not wanting to burden taxpayers with this cost, so his department made rape victims pay for it themselves.

Nice.

Source: http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/2008/09/09/palin-on-rape-exams-not-the-taxpayers-problem/

Posted by: anonymous | September 9, 2008 7:48 PM | Report abuse

AsperClown, per usual, you are cherry-picking polls.

The major poll on RealClearPolitics has O substantially ahead on the electoral map. O's Plouffe said much the same thing recently. Further, McCain's folks say O's ground organization far exceeds theirs in every single state. Finally, as many posters have noted, a sizable part of O's base uses cell phone exclusively and so they are never reached by the pollsters' calls to landphones.

On a personal note, as you earlier revealed, you can post non-stop 9am to 11pm because you are "unoccupied." In that regard, did you send that application to MickeyD's for the fries consultant position? Today's the last day. Good luck, AClown.

Also not to let news get in the way of bloviating and non-reporting, but politico.com today made references to the serious laprogressive.com investigative article that reported the alleged racial slurs aimed at Barack by Palin and alleged putdown of Hillary, witnessed by a third party.

[After O beat HRC in the primaries, P allegedly said, "So Rambo beat the witch." Except she didn't say "Rambo" and didn't say "witch."]

This is now mainstream information deserving some follow-up by the MSM in the public interest. Of course the MSM won't, just as they haven't with every other Mrs. P scandal (babygate, troopergate, husband's-business-partner-gate, etc.). The alleged slurs of Obama would seem to be in keeping with her long time embrace of the agenda of Pat Buchanan, whose "views" take up about three pages of the Anti-Defamation League's web site. The Buchanan connection is also ignored by the MSM.

Oh well. I guess the MSM, which spent four months on Rev. Wright, flag pins, fist bumps, and "bitter," will continue dodging P news and leave it to Internet journalists to report.
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ALL THE MONEY & TIME OBAMA SUNK INTO NEW 'ELECTORAL MAP"!

Montana ----- Rasmussen --------- McCain +11
North Carolina - SurveyUSA --------- McCain +20
Virginia ------ SurveyUSA --------- McCain +2
Virginia ------ FOX News/Rasmussen McCain +2
Ohio -------- FOX News/Rasmussen-McCain +7

& BLUE MICHIGAN IS LOOKING A LOT LESS BLUE!

Michigan ----- Strategic Vision ----- Obama +1

ALL THAT MONEY & TIME PUT INTO THOSE STATES, UP AGAINST THAT MEASLEY $12 MILLION THAT CLINTON NEEDED HELP WITH TO RETIRE HER CAMPAIGN DEBT! ALL THAT MONEY IS WASTED NOW! AND HE'S GOING TO LOSE ANYWAYS.


Posted by: AsperGirl | September 9, 2008 6:21 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2008 7:45 PM | Report abuse

So Harried, Mathematics is a grade school subject, why not move on to statistics and probabilitiee....ie.polling error....or even better...differential calculus (that deals with changes over time)

Posted by: Happy Republican | September 9, 2008 7:31 PM

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I'm your Huckleberry
I'll bite....lets talk about polling error
Like ONLY using land lines to do polling?
I dont even own a landline and neither do the majority of people i know. Where are they in the polls? Oh wait they tend to be young voters and we know which way those are swinging. The problem is that when McCain finally gets a little bump in the polls he still trails in the vast majority of the battleground states. If you want to talk about Differential calculus then do we need to meet here once a week to talk about the changes? I thought many of us were already doing just that.

Posted by: feastorafamine | September 9, 2008 7:44 PM | Report abuse

Shrill baby, shrill

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2008 7:40 PM | Report abuse

So Harried, Mathematics is a grade school subject, why not move on to statistics and probabilitiee....ie.polling error....or even better...differential calculus (that deals with changes over time)

Posted by: Happy Republican | September 9, 2008 7:31 PM | Report abuse

Just a few comments:

1) McCain was making points on the experience theme, but like Hillary, figured it wouldn't be enough. So he dumped that theme in favor of reform. So much for consistency.

2) Making fun of Obama's celebrity ultimately looked more like envy than anything else. So he found a celeb of his own and is pushing her in front.

3) The GOP is notably weak on issues, so they claim the campaign is really about identity. This, after complaining for months that Obama wasn't being specific enough about the issues.

Looks to me like imitation, the sincerest form of flattery.

When are the voters going to stop electing likeable mediocrities and start getting some smart folks in office, who might have a chance of addressing some of these problems we're facing?

Oh, that's right. The GOP will tell you that Americans don't trust smart people.

Conclusion:

Posted by: samson151 | September 9, 2008 7:27 PM | Report abuse

""Barack Obama and his Democratic allies are intensifying their attacks on Sarah Palin, as her sustained and surprising central role in this race is upending Obama’s strategy and often overshadowing McCain."

That's all they have. Obama's spent his massive warchest down now so much that McCain will probably have more money than him without having to spend time fundraising. He's torpedoed his own campaign by sexism & misogyny and then following up by mean snubbing of Hillary Clinton and her 18 mil voters.

All he has left are the politics of personal destruction. They will be focused on trying to destroy Sarah Palin for the next few weeks, like animals and crooks. I'd ramp up her security if I was McCain.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 9, 2008 7:21 PM | Report abuse

People prefer a simple lie to the complex truth

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2008 7:20 PM | Report abuse

Remember, eveyone, what the GOP --scrambling to defend its miserable, horrendously corrupt tenure -- was saying two years ago?
"The Democrats have no ideas, so they must run on attacks."

And this is what John McCain's campaign manager said, recently: "This election is not about issues." Boy, does the McCain/Palin ticket personify that.
And these guys call themselves the "Party of Ideas"?
Oh, *puh-leeze.*
McCain still may win, and if he does, those who voted him better not say one word when this country really starts going to hell. They will have gotten exactly what they deserve.

Posted by: vegasgirl | September 9, 2008 7:18 PM | Report abuse

It still surprises me that the there seems to be so much trouble grasping basic reality. The Obama campaign has long been subject to delusions that somehow a landslide majority just could not wait to rush to kneel down and worship him. In fact, he barely managed to get a big enough majority among the Democrats to defeat Hillary Clinton. Through much of the Summer the polls showed Obama with less than 50% of the votes and a lead over McCain that was usually something like 5% of the vote. At least some polls also showed Obama with a large lead among women. Current polls seem to have moved a little to the point where Obama and McCain are close to tied. That change represents something like 5% undecided switching to McCain. It has been widely reported that significant numbers of the traditional Republican base were less than enthusiastic about McCain. It also has been widely reported that those same Republicans are very happy with Sarah Palin. Is it really that hard to understand what happened or to understand that neither the vicious negative personal attacks on Palin nor any Obama policies have much chance to break these core Republican votes away from McCain?

Posted by: dnjake | September 9, 2008 7:14 PM | Report abuse

http://www.myspace.com/37thandostreet

TALK ABOUT BEING OFF MESSAGE


OBAMA WAS SUPPOSED TO BE TALKING ABOUT BRINGING AMERICA TO THE "NEW POLITICS." OBAMA WAS SUPPOSED TO BE "THE ONE" TO SHOW AMERICA THE WAY.


Running scared and worried, message thrown aside, Obama is making mistakes


Quotes from Politico today below:


IT IS ABSOLUTELY UNBELIEVABLE HOW THROWN-OFF THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN IS RIGHT NOW - COMPLETELY OFF MESSAGE AND REELING - IS THIS HOW OBAMA WOULD RESPOND IN A NATIONAL SECURITY CRISIS ???


QUOTES FROM POLITICO ENCLOSED BELOW:


"Barack Obama and his Democratic allies are intensifying their attacks on Sarah Palin, as her sustained and surprising central role in this race is upending Obama’s strategy and often overshadowing McCain.

Democratic Congressman Russ Carnahan on Tuesday – introducing Joe Biden at a campaign event – ripped into Palin’s record and punctuated it with this snarky jab. “There’s no way you can dress up that record, even with a lot of lipstick,” he said. Obama himself used similar langauge later in the day about the McCain-Palin reform rhetoric, saying "You can put lipstick on a pig," he said. "It's still a pig."

Former New York Mayor Ed Koch, as part of his endorsement of Obama, said Palin “scares the hell out of me.” And Obama hit Palin in nearly a dozen different press releases – one day after drawing laughs at a campaign stop by calling her a “moose shooter.”

It isn’t just Democratic officials who are fixated on Palin. Media outlets on the left – from Talking Points Memo to Huffington Post – are loaded with hard-hitting stories about Palin. McCain often seems like he’s playing second fiddle."

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Posted by: 37th&OStreet | September 9, 2008 7:14 PM | Report abuse

Obama very much wants to do the right thing for this country. He's sincere. I'm old so I've seen many politicians come and go. McCain scares me. I am scared for my grandchildren. This man will lie and cheat to win. He's become a fanatic like Sarah Palin. These people will do anything even if it means getting our country into needless wars. I'm voting to save the children. I'm voting for Obama.

Posted by: OldWomanInFlorida | September 9, 2008 7:11 PM | Report abuse

Obama can't pretend to be stronger on the "issues" when he voted "present" dozens of times and never had the cujones to STAND for anything if he thought it would thwart his premature ambitions.

The only thing "noble" about Obama is the faux Greek temple he had built behind him from where he gave his acceptance speech.

Posted by: dyinglikeflies | September 9, 2008 7:10 PM | Report abuse

TALK ABOUT BEING OFF MESSAGE


OBAMA WAS SUPPOSED TO BE TALKING ABOUT BRINGING AMERICA TO THE "NEW POLITICS." OBAMA WAS SUPPOSED TO BE "THE ONE" TO SHOW AMERICA THE WAY.


Running scared and worried, message thrown aside, Obama is making mistakes


Quotes from Politico today below:


IT IS ABSOLUTELY UNBELIEVABLE HOW THROWN-OFF THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN IS RIGHT NOW - COMPLETELY OFF MESSAGE AND REELING - IS THIS HOW OBAMA WOULD RESPOND IN A NATIONAL SECURITY CRISIS ???


QUOTES FROM POLITICO ENCLOSED BELOW:


"Barack Obama and his Democratic allies are intensifying their attacks on Sarah Palin, as her sustained and surprising central role in this race is upending Obama’s strategy and often overshadowing McCain.

Democratic Congressman Russ Carnahan on Tuesday – introducing Joe Biden at a campaign event – ripped into Palin’s record and punctuated it with this snarky jab. “There’s no way you can dress up that record, even with a lot of lipstick,” he said. Obama himself used similar langauge later in the day about the McCain-Palin reform rhetoric, saying "You can put lipstick on a pig," he said. "It's still a pig."

Former New York Mayor Ed Koch, as part of his endorsement of Obama, said Palin “scares the hell out of me.” And Obama hit Palin in nearly a dozen different press releases – one day after drawing laughs at a campaign stop by calling her a “moose shooter.”

It isn’t just Democratic officials who are fixated on Palin. Media outlets on the left – from Talking Points Memo to Huffington Post – are loaded with hard-hitting stories about Palin. McCain often seems like he’s playing second fiddle."

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Posted by: 37th&OStreet | September 9, 2008 7:10 PM | Report abuse

People, lets not let facts get in the way of the truth and lets not let issues get in the way of an election!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2008 7:09 PM | Report abuse

I don't want a personality contest winner! I want a thoughtful president who is calm and can face tough problems. I'm sticking with Obama-- in fact the scary RNC made me not only donate $, but also sign up to volunteer every spare minute!

Woman voter

Posted by: Dr_JES | September 9, 2008 7:04 PM | Report abuse

DO THE MATH with the battelground states factored in an you have a healthy lead and a substantial WIN for Obama.

I deal in FACTS
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Let my tell you something FEAST-OR-FAMINE, MATHEMATICS be my game, facts be my name. Now here's some FACTS: RECORD DEFICIT,5 YEAR HIGH UNEMPLOYEMENT (even by Government measures), US SECRETARY OF STATE DISMISSED BY RUSSIAN PUTIN as "INCONSEQUENTIAL"---those are facts and GEORGE WALKER BUSH NEEDS END!

Posted by: Harried | September 9, 2008 6:57 PM | Report abuse

Finally, a poster who understands the real McCain. Out here in Arizona, we have known him as a sleazeball and bully for many years. Most of the soldiers who I see every day despise him for his duplicitous behavior towards those left in Vietnam. His wife's family made their money through mafia connections, and he has been a disaster for any local environmental legislation.

I actually sent him a contribution in 2000 when he ran against the shrub. What a fool I was!

Posted by: madman | September 9, 2008 6:55 PM | Report abuse

If the Republicans wanted a vice-pre­sident who favors teaching creationism in public schools, who denies the science of global warming, who op­poses not only civil unions but also benefits for same-sex couples and who has been more than cosy with an Alaska secessionist party, they got what they asked for. But a person capable of leading our military on day one?

Why would McCain put America's security at risk for short term political gain?

Posted by: thebob.bob | September 9, 2008 6:47 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, that is some winning personalisty McNasty has there. Of course, since the Post is too busy licking McGoo's Balz and swinging on his Mafia-financed swing no one in America knows about McDumbo at all, except for the fake labels his lobbyist friends tell the the CM to report as fact. Well, let's keep trying to show the real nut before he takes power and launches the country into WW3:
Psycho John McCain Pushes POW’s Relative Into Wall, Nearly Punches Wheelchair-Bound LadyJohn “McNasty” McCain has a well-deserved reputation as a vulgar and delusional psychopath who should be locked up in a crazy house forever, but a Sunday feature on Walnuts’ insanity includes an example from the recent past that tops anything else we’ve ever heard. First he knocked some poor lady into the wall of a Senate office building, and then he nearly punched out another old lady in a wheelchair.

About 25 members of the National Alliance of Families for the Return of America’s Missing Servicemen and Women went to McCain’s office in 1996, after the group’s meeting in Washington. They wanted to see McCain and talk about their relatives who never came home from Vietnam — McCain worked aggressively to end U.S. efforts to find the remains of American POWs in Vietnam, and he is despised by military families for selling out to the communist Viet Cong.

McClatchy’s Washington bureau reported Sunday:

Six people present have written statements describing what they saw. According to the accounts, McCain waved his hand to shoo away Jeannette Jenkins, whose cousin was last seen in South Vietnam in 1970, causing her to hit a wall.

As McCain continued walking, Jane Duke Gaylor, the mother of another missing serviceman, approached the senator. Gaylor, in a wheelchair equipped with portable oxygen, stretched her arms toward McCain.

“McCain stopped, glared at her, raised his left arm ready to strike her, composed himself and pushed the wheelchair away from him,” according to Eleanor Apodaca, the sister of an Air Force captain missing since 1967

Posted by: McNasty | September 9, 2008 6:47 PM | Report abuse

(As an aside, kingofpoop thinks we had 6 years of a good economy under GW Bush. Do you agree with him? I sure don't! He has been a disaster!)
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I REPEAT, for all you red-blooded empty headed Republicans:

Just what I figured: no red-blooded Republican patriots in this group. Just the usual empty dittoheads.

Cats got their tongue unless it's about useless nonsense.

Here's the post again.

A post deserving of repetition:

"Palin used 'Alaska First' as her campaign slogan, which is the same one as her husband’s old party, the Alaska Independence Party (AIP), a secessionist organization for which Palin recorded a supportive statement.
Palin was also the keynote speaker for AIP on several occasions, and her husband was a member and supporter of AIP.
AIP founder Joe Voglar once stated, 'I'm an Alaskan, not an American. I've got no use for America or her damned institutions.' and 'The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government. And I won't be buried under their damn flag. I'll be buried in Dawson. And when Alaska is an independent nation they can bring my bones home.'"

Now I wonder what all those "red-blooded Republican patriots" have to say about THIS association? Cat got your tongue?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2008 6:43 PM | Report abuse

THE MEDIA SAYS IT'S COOL TO PICK AT PALIN'S RELIGION

WHY THEN NO FOCUS EVER ON ALL THOSE BARACK BLOOPERS:
WHAT RELIGION AM I SUPPOSED TO BE AGAIN?
WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO SAY MY BELIEFS ARE?

OBAMA BLOOPERS IN WHCH HE TALKS LIKE A MUSLIM

Obama is known for always speaking very carefully & precisely (it's his gift). Except when he's talking about his religion or when he's making "Muslim bloopers".

:: BARACK OBAMA: "MY MUSLIM FAITH" ::

In an interview of Obama on September 7, George Stephanopolous asked Obama about his accusations that the McCain campaign are going to accuse him of being Muslim. Obama goes into a 2 minute answer that includes the blooper "my Muslim faith".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUYHFlGb2Ng&feature=iv

At minute 1:34 Stephanopolous asks Obama about why he makes accusations that the McCain campaign is going to accuse him of being Muslim, when the McCain has condemned people making those accusations.

At minute 2:49 Obama says: "You're absolutely right that John McCain has not talked about my Muslim faith."

George Stephanopolous steps in and corrects him to say "Christian faith" and then Obama agrees and says "Christian faith". But then what Obama was going to say doesn't make sense anymore because that would be, "You're absolutely right that John McCain has not talked about my Christian faith."

Obama then has to spend the next 15 seconds regrouping to make a point ("John McCain has not suggested I was a Muslim.")

:: OBAMA THINKS THE U.S. HAS "57 STATES" ::

You can watch Obama's statement that he's visited "57 states".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02DtIws

This is no joke, he really said this. This was no "slip", he pauses & thinks about it!

What American would forget that? And why would he pick the number "57" out of the air?

Everyone knows that we have 50 states. But there is a union that has 57 states in it: the nation of Islam. The Organisation of the Islamic Conference (OIC) is an international organization with a permanent delegation to the United Nations. It has 57 Islamic member states, from the Middle East, Africa, Central Asia, Caucasus, Balkan, Southeast Asia, South Asia and South America.

This is kind of an important slip coming from a candidate who is African-Arab by racial heritage, Muslim by birth who claims to now be Christian, who was raised abroad in an Islamic state (Indonesia) with a Muslim stepfather, who traveled to Pakistan using his Indonesian-citizenship passport at age 20 when he was supposed to be a U.S. citizen and Americans weren't supposed to go to Pakistan, who belonged for 20 years to a Church that publishes pro-Hamas material and whose leadership has close ties to the Nation of Islam, and who has been endorsed by Hamas.

:: TOO-LONG, BABBLE-ANSWER ON THE QUESTION WHAT IS THE MEANING OF JESUS IN HIS LIFE ::

You can also watch Barack Obama's too-long, wandering, lame response to the question: what is the meaning of Jesus in his life. He starts kind of okay with a trite answer, but then gets lost and stops making sense until he ends up claiming that Jesus makes him try new things like running for President after Rev. Warren starts making noises that signal to Obama he needs to cut it off.

http://www.youtube.com/v/gHtAWPjzvyk&rel=0&color1=11645361&color2=13619151&fs=1

Afterward, Obama declares that was a tough question, whereon Rev. Warren says, "Oh no, that was a freebie, a gimme."

Posted by: bondjedi | September 9, 2008 6:43 PM | Report abuse

Oh no!

Say it isn't so, please. Someone tell me that the democratic nominee for president did not say (on MSNBC with K. Olbermann) that "this argument" (the argument that the republican pair of nominees are "agents of change")...that this argument "won't fly". How can Obama say it won't fly?
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Look pal. the only thing that is changing is the OLD SENILE DEGENERATE'S FACE CANCER!

Posted by: Harried | September 9, 2008 6:43 PM | Report abuse

MORE STUFF THE MEDIA IGNORES, TO HELP OBAMA WIN

GEE WONDER WHY OBAMA LEFT THIS OFF HIS RESUME?
4 YEARS OF EXEC EXPERIENCE IN $100 MILLION PROJECT

ABOUT OBAMA'S FAILURE DIRECTING THE ANNENBERG PROJECT:

The papers have recently been opened from Barack Obama's only executive leadership experience, helming an expensive educational reform effort in Chicago, the Chicago Annenberg Challenge (CAC), a more than $100 million program that failed, big time, according to the project's own final report.

Unrepentant terrorist William Ayers (whom Obama claimed in the Philadelphia debate was merely a "neighbor") was head of the operating arm of the CAC, working with Obama on distributing scores of millions of dollars to grantees in the wards of the city. Obama was a founding chairman.

Obama doesn't claim his 4 years on this project when listing his experience. The media has ignored it for him. A timeline of Obama's career from George Washington University omits it.

The Obama & Ayers-led program flopped, squandering enormous amounts of money, public resources and the time of many public employees in the process.

More at:
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/08/obamas_lost_annenberg_years_co.html

About the Obama campaign's current fight over claims about the project & attempts by the University of Chicago's attempts to bar access to its papers:
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/08/26/newly-released-documents-highlight-obamas-relationship-with-ayers/

An update concerning the mysterious files for the CAC, for which Obama chaired the board for five years until early 2000. A liberal blogger revealed on Sept. 6 that it a CAC executive director blocked the National Review's Stanley Kurtz from accessing the CAC files to investigate the William Ayers-Barack Obama working relationship.

See: http://globallabor.blogspot.com/2008/09/obamaayers-update-chicago-annenberg.html

Posted by: bondjedi | September 9, 2008 6:39 PM | Report abuse

ALL THE MONEY & TIME OBAMA SUNK INTO NEW 'ELECTORAL MAP"!

Montana ----- Rasmussen --------- McCain +11
North Carolina - SurveyUSA --------- McCain +20
Virginia ------ SurveyUSA --------- McCain +2
Virginia ------ FOX News/Rasmussen McCain +2
Ohio -------- FOX News/Rasmussen-McCain +7

& BLUE MICHIGAN IS LOOKING A LOT LESS BLUE!

Michigan ----- Strategic Vision ----- Obama +1

ALL THAT MONEY & TIME PUT INTO THOSE STATES, UP AGAINST THAT MEASLEY $12 MILLION THAT CLINTON NEEDED HELP WITH TO RETIRE HER CAMPAIGN DEBT! ALL THAT MONEY IS WASTED NOW! AND HE'S GOING TO LOSE ANYWAYS.


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WOW talk about cherry picking. Lets go through ALL the battleground states shall we?
Ohio - virtual tie
PA - Obama up 4.7
MI - Obama up 2.8 (has led for three months)
WI - Obama 5.3
NH- Virtual tie
FL- Mccain 3.0
MS- Mccain 7.0
Co- Obama 3.0
NM- Obama 4.3
NV- virtual tie

The electoral map
Obama 217
Mccain 189
DO THE MATH with the battelground states factored in an you have a healthy lead and a substantial WIN for Obama.

I deal in FACTS and sourced ones at that. How about you?

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/battleground.html

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/maps/obama_vs_mccain/

Posted by: feastorafamine | September 9, 2008 6:38 PM | Report abuse

Powerful and continuing nationalism.
Disdain for recognizing human rights.
Supremacy of the military.
Controlled mass media.
Obsession with national security.
Religion and government are intertwined.
Corporate power is protected, while labor power is suppressed.
Disdain for intellectuals and the arts.
Obsession with crime and punishment.
Rampant cronyism and corruption.

Any of this sound a little too familiar? We can't vote like it's 2000 anymore. Our nation is at a significant turning point in its history. Ignore the stupid distractions (this *personality* bulls***, for one) and take a look at what's going on.


Wrapped in a flag? Check.
Carrying a cross? Check.
Fascism, welcome home!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2008 6:38 PM | Report abuse

It seems to me that we should get away from the polarizing labels -- right wing, left wing...liberal and conservative -- and move toward a new lexicon that defines our politicians by "mainstream" and "extreme." It would certainly help the Obama/Biden team frame the issues far more effectively.

Posted by: KathyinBaltimore | September 9, 2008 6:38 PM | Report abuse

Just what I figured: no red-blooded Republican patriots in this group.
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SCREW YOU RED BLOODED AMERICAN REPUBLICANS, ALL YOU DO IS STEAL FROM US AND KILL OUR KIDS!!!

Posted by: Harried | September 9, 2008 6:37 PM | Report abuse

Oh no!

Say it isn't so, please. Someone tell me that the democratic nominee for president did not say (on MSNBC with K. Olbermann) that "this argument" (the argument that the republican pair of nominees are "agents of change")...that this argument "won't fly". How can Obama say it won't fly?

Problem: It is flying. People are buying it in buckets & boatloads -lock, stock & barrel, so to speak- all over & around this country!

p.s. Where's Hillary when we need her. Why couldn't she be the first female vice-presidential candidate to win in an election?

Posted by: anon | September 9, 2008 6:33 PM | Report abuse

Some were incensed at Mr. Eugene Robinson's article today suggesting that McCain has taken on the Messiah mantle. This article reminded reminded me that indeed McCain and the Republicans have attempted to ascribe a suffering, wounded McCain in a POW camp, which is analagous to Jesus treatment at the trail and crucifixion. The Repubs recoil at the comparison. Yet they are the ones who have introduced the POW story in such a graphic and detailed way as to elicit the same reactions from the electorate as the faithful have during the Easter season. Just go back and look at the delegates at the Republican Convention. Yes, they were there wiping the tears from their eyes when being told for the how-may-times POW story.

Posted by: Earl C | September 9, 2008 6:33 PM | Report abuse

NEW LINGO: PALIN

pay'-lin

1. (noun) a real thing of such authentic quality that it exposes even the best counterfeit copy as an obvious phony by comparison.
e.g. "Barack Obama suddenly has become a boring schmuck ever since that PALIN showed up."

2. (verb) to lose your appeal as soon as something genuine appears against which your phony affectations can be compared.
e.g. "Barack Obama is PALIN by comparison!"

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 9, 2008 6:33 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: scrivener | September 9, 2008 6:31 PM | Report abuse

And how many years did he have a full Republican Congressional majority to back his policies? (Answer- 6 of the 8).
Posted by: madman | September 9, 2008 5:59 PM

which roughly coincides with the good economic times. funny huh?

If you think the Pelosi congress ruined the economy (and they did), you are not going to like what the Pelosi/Reid/Obama loons will do.

Posted by: kingofzouk | September 9, 2008 6:30 PM | Report abuse

I am still trying to understand how the religious right and other voters concerned with "family values" and family issues can truly believe McCain and Palin are MORE representative of families and average Americans than Obama/Biden. Neither of their speeches at the convention or on the campaign trail shows any concern for the average American, they spout a false auto- biography and tout each other's greatness.
When the truth is they have no vision for change and promise only more of the failed policies of the last 8 years. Tax cuts for the wealthiest and corporate tax cuts even for oil companies. They tell the American people that the money will "trickle down"
Wake up people!! See these people for who they are not what they want you to believe!
McCain is a known adulterer who admittedly cheated on his wife before he divorced her. He also is known for his angry outbursts and hotheaded temperament. He uses horrible language documented at various Senate hearings by fellow Senators on both sides of the aisle as well as any person who challenges him including the families of missing veterans. And he has been known to call his wife horrible names. He married a much younger very wealthy woman and has used her money and connections to get ahead. He owns so many homes he can't remember the exact at last count it was around 8-10 homes. As far as issues are concerned he has been on all sides of every issue. The only thing is certain he is willing to abandon any commitment or issue for political expediency. He is determined to be POTUS at all costs.
Palin is mother of a teenage girl who is pregnant and about to marry a teenage boy.
A child pregnant with a child marrying another child who has already stated he didn't want children.Palin commends her daughter for a choice she never gave her. She gave an intemperate belittling speech full of falsehoods and pitbull tactics in front of her children. She has lied continuously about her endorsement of the "bridge to nowhere". She fired the former police captain of her tiny town and threatened to fire the librarian because of a refusal to sign a "loyalty oath" She left her little town in mountains (20 MILLION)of debt and ensconced in legal problems because of her mishandling of pet projects. BTW,Living in a state close to Russia does not make her a foreign policy expert.
Obama is happily married to a devoted wife and has two beautiful children. He has worked as a community organizer, Editor of the prestigious Harvard Law review, state senator of large Illinois district, constitutional law professor, author of a far-reaching ethics reforms in the Federal Senate. He offers lower taxes for the middle class, accessible and affordable health care, affordable college education better schools and more jobs thru energy independence. If these are not "family values" I don't know what is.
Biden has authored important legislation for abused women, equal pay, and many other issues concerning families and women. He was a single father who raised his children by himself taking a train home every night and never moved to Washington D.C. He is considered one of he most knowledgeable Senators regarding foreign policy.
If McCain wants this to be about personality and not issues, I submit that Obama and Biden also have compelling personal histories and have shown a commitment to helping the average American family.
Signed
A single working mother with no health insurance for herself or her family

(please no mention of rezko crap it has been totally debunked as well as Mccain's ads regarding obama's tax policy)

Posted by: patzav | September 9, 2008 6:28 PM | Report abuse

Just what I figured: no red-blooded Republican patriots in this group. Just the usual empty dittoheads.

Cats got their tongue unless it's about useless nonsense.

Posted by: madman | September 9, 2008 6:25 PM | Report abuse

How was I supposed to know I would actually have to answer some questions in the end?

what happened to my free ride I got in the primaries? I want it back. I am a victim. Of those mean Repubs and that VRWC that is against me.

Posted by: snObama | September 9, 2008 6:25 PM | Report abuse

Asspergirl - Your numbers are cherry-picked. You are the only person taking them seriously. Try again.

My request this time for recycled, reheated Obama dirt is his absolute, steadfast refusal to wear an American flag pin.

Posted by: bondjedi | September 9, 2008 6:24 PM | Report abuse

"McCain largely succeeded in portraying the Illinois senator as a vacuous celebrity while casting himself as the self-sacrificing war hero"

...in the mind of Chris Cillizza, apparently. Not mine.

Posted by: zukermand | September 9, 2008 6:22 PM | Report abuse

ALL THE MONEY & TIME OBAMA SUNK INTO NEW 'ELECTORAL MAP"!

Montana ----- Rasmussen --------- McCain +11
North Carolina - SurveyUSA --------- McCain +20
Virginia ------ SurveyUSA --------- McCain +2
Virginia ------ FOX News/Rasmussen McCain +2
Ohio -------- FOX News/Rasmussen-McCain +7

& BLUE MICHIGAN IS LOOKING A LOT LESS BLUE!

Michigan ----- Strategic Vision ----- Obama +1

ALL THAT MONEY & TIME PUT INTO THOSE STATES, UP AGAINST THAT MEASLEY $12 MILLION THAT CLINTON NEEDED HELP WITH TO RETIRE HER CAMPAIGN DEBT! ALL THAT MONEY IS WASTED NOW! AND HE'S GOING TO LOSE ANYWAYS.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 9, 2008 6:21 PM | Report abuse

This Palin "newness curiosity factor" will fade quickly as we hear more and more about what she really stands for on the ISSUES! I think these women who are now flocking to Palin's side are NOT former Hillary supporters, but rather GOP and Independent CULTURALLY CONSERVATIVE women who supported Huckabee, Romney, etc. in the primaries, or who are just not that interested in politics, and who were not that enamored with McCain before! I support Obama/Biden. My best friend was an ARDENT backer of HILLARY here in Ohio and now is enthusiastically for Obama and Biden! There is NO WAY - NO WAY - that ANY WOMAN who really BELIEVED in the ISSUES that HILLARY stood for could POSSIBLY VOTE FOR MCCAIN and PALIN!!! NO WAY!!!! The ISSUES are just too important! A woman's right to choose, equal pay, the future of the Supreme Court, the Iraq war, stem cell research, health care, the economy, etc. (and, btw, we are in our mid-50s!!)


Posted by: Rita | September 9, 2008 6:20 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2008 5:51 PM

something tells me you Libs wouldn't take a job working in a flag-making factory.
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And what tells you that ASSNONYMOUS?

Posted by: Harried | September 9, 2008 6:17 PM | Report abuse

A post deserving of repetition:

"Palin used 'Alaska First' as her campaign slogan, which is the same one as her husband’s old party, the Alaska Independence Party (AIP), a secessionist organization for which Palin recorded a supportive statement.
Palin was also the keynote speaker for AIP on several occasions, and her husband was a member and supporter of AIP.
AIP founder Joe Voglar once stated, 'I'm an Alaskan, not an American. I've got no use for America or her damned institutions.' and 'The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government. And I won't be buried under their damn flag. I'll be buried in Dawson. And when Alaska is an independent nation they can bring my bones home.'"

Now I wonder what all those "red-blooded Republican patriots" have to say about THIS association? Cat got your tongue?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2008 6:15 PM | Report abuse

Chris hit the nail on the head.

As Willie Brown stated a couple of days ago: "The democrats are in trouble. Period."

He added that dems don't win elections while on the defensive. Since the brilliant pick of Palin, the dems have been on the defensive. Completely and totally. And totally screwing it up.

Here's another reason why Obama is failing to connect as an online reader posted on the washington post politics chat with Dan Balz this week with regard to Obama:

"...I'm constantly puzzled at how he seems flummoxed when answering questions he should clearly expect to be asked: about NAFTA, when life begins, and most recently the surge. He seems to be thinking out loud, as though he hasn't thought it through ahead of time. Maybe the campaigns folks just don't consider these burning issues? But it seems to me it goes to character and trust, which may matter more than issues. What's going on here?

Dan Balz: That's an interesting point. ...... Does his style of answering questions make him look less decisive than he really is?"

Duh. Yeah. Looks and sounds unsure, defensive, whiny, complaining (or as Cohen wrote today -- detached, disconnected, dispassionate, disinterested and NOT READY)

Mostly I keep hearing " those mean republicans aren't playing fair!!! boo hoo hoo! wah wah wah."

Every clip I have seen of Obama recently he sounds like a defensive distant clueless ineffectual John Kerry in 04 -- (sighing Gore in 2000, Dudley Dukakis in 88, Carter in 80) -- he's taken to whining and complaining about the unfair mean old republikkkans. Boo Hoo Hoo some more.

Total losing / loser tactics.

Plus Obama looks like he is sleep walking through this. As if all he needed to do was win the primary and the anointment would be complete. give me a break.

Surprise. It's Not Over! and The democraps are not winning anymore.


P.S. It's not Hillary Clinton's responsibility to win independents, other Hillary supporters, and white working class voters for Obama. That's his responsibility. And he's blowing it.

Hillary is doing the smart thing by NOT joining the hysterical hatefest against the talented and energetic Palin. After all, she knows exactly what being on the target end of that hatefest is like.

Obama's not the shiny new object that captured the A.D.H.D. stenographers pool 20 months ago. That honor now goes to Sarah Palin (once they get past their snobbish boorish behavior; they'll never get over their sexism, however).

And as was easily predictable, Obama's adoring media is now turning the corner, turning on him, and will join together to throw him under the bus now. Totally predictable.


Posted by: from buzzzed | September 9, 2008 6:14 PM | Report abuse

Obama might be too cool to actually FIGHT and WIN.

Posted by: LK | September 9, 2008 6:12 PM

Try too liberal. you all still just don't get it.

Posted by: kingofzouk | September 9, 2008 6:14 PM | Report abuse

Here we go again ... Democrats plummeting to another loss in November because they can't get it up to fight down and dirty. Here it comes, the old fatal Democratic distaste about playing hardball with the Republicans when they start the Big Smear in the final few months of the campaign leads to a big loser every time. Obama needs to fire it up ... no more meandering sentences, detached "puzzlement" about the attacks and distortion - the voters need to feel the fire, the passion, the urgency. Don't just compare McCain/Palin to Bush - old, tired, done. Go AFTER these people like you care. Obama might be too cool to actually FIGHT and WIN.

Posted by: LK | September 9, 2008 6:12 PM | Report abuse

Gov. Palin
Raised taxes as the Gov. of Alaska
Misled America about the Bridge to Nowhere, in her first national speech (She fully supported it and only killed it after the funding was cut anyhow) and continues to do so as many as four times a day on the campaign stump. She never returned the funds for the Bridge to Nowhere.


Wants to teach creationism in Science Class, subverting the US Constitution

Tried to get books banned at the local library

Fired her entire staff 10 days into term as mayor, for lack of loyalty

Used every available lever to get an enemy fired from his job, and is still lying about it

Put a gag order on her administration as mayor of a town of 6500

Milked the Federal Government for huge series of earmarks, by using Jack Abramoff lobbyists. The highest per capita earmarker in the nation: Palin (27 Million for a town of 6500)
Charged 52 earmarks valued at $256 million in her first year as Alaska Governor and 31 earmarks valued at $197 million this year. Considerably LOWER than Barrack Obama’s Eamark list he released in March of 2008 in the spirit of transparency.
Billed taxpayers in Alaska $43,490 for staying in her own home.
Touts the need to address special needs children but only did so by stepping in at the last minute to support a bill that she was chided for NOT supporting previously despite her sister having a child with autism.

Doesn’t believe in Global Warming

Used Alaska First as her campaign slogan, which is the same one as her husband’s old party, the AIP, a secessionist organization she recorded a supportive piece for this year! She was also the keynote speaker for AIP on several occasions and her husband was an ardent supporter and member of AIP.
The AIP founder Joe Voglar once stated, “I'm an Alaskan, not an American. I've got no use for America or her damned institutions." and "The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government. And I won't be buried under their damn flag. I'll be buried in Dawson. And when Alaska is an independent nation they can bring my bones home."


Wants to ban stem cell research

Is on the record stating the Iraq war ”Is a task from God.”
In July when interviewed about the possibility of being the VP she stated that she did not know what the VP did.

Left her town Mayoralty with a huge debt, having outspent all around in her (21 MILION in debt)

And, perhaps worst of all, Palin would insist that my 14 daughter carry and birth a rapist’s child

Hate speech? Lies? Ummmmm these are facts sourced and verufied. Sorry it hurts your feelings
Does anyone else find it utteringly amazing, mind numbing and surreal that the republicans are running on a change platform borrowed from Obama to storm their own castle??!! Repub chant...."We suck, We Suck but NOW Were Different." This cranky guy cant even operate the internet to read your opinion. But change is comming......ya right like what more trickle down economics, fear mongoring, politicizing 9/11 and questioning patriotism? Privitizing anything and everything to line the pockets of your friends? Lying repeatedly to the American people, 3 TRILLION in debt and POOF! A new republican party!!!! transformed from the last eight years and catapulted into the future! Yippeee like Slim Pickens riding the bomb through the sky in Dr Strangelove. Hello Joe Mccarthy is that you? Mr. McCarthy would be proud. So would David Blaine. Abracadabra!!

Posted by: feastorafamine | September 9, 2008 6:06 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin appeals to rural and suburban blue-collar white working women (Emphasis "white" women), married and badly educated. She does not appeal to minority women of the same class. So she's a racially divisive candidate, just what McCain needs to offset liberal and educated white professional support for Obama. Obama ought to chase McCain, let Biden and Michelle chase Palin and Cindy. Question: Why does Cindy keep her adopted Bangladeshi child under wraps, sedated with lyrica or another sedative when the girl is in public? The girl's in high school at least. She ought to be able to handle herself with reporters. But: No interviews with McCain's adopted daughter but plenty of photo ops and interviews for his blonde one, the author of an adoring book about her dad.

Posted by: thedefendantX | September 9, 2008 6:06 PM | Report abuse

"Instead, every tax paying citizen would pay 40 bucks per flag so this business could stick around and Dem pols can keep getting elected.

Lib economics."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/09/09/2359498.htm

"US Carmakers Push for Government Bailout

Following the US Government's $US240-billion bailout of mortgage finance companies Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae, the manufacturing sector now has its hand out."

Zouk, maybe GM, Ford, and Chrysler should take your advice and start making flags.

Posted by: bondjedi | September 9, 2008 6:05 PM | Report abuse

I think these women who are flocking to Palin's side are NOT former Hillary supporters, but rather GOP and Independent CULTURALLY CONSERVATIVE women who supported Huckabee, Romney, etc. in the primaries, or who are just not that interested in politics, and who were not that enamored with McCain before! I support Obama here in Ohio. My best friend was an ARDENT backer of HILLARY here in Ohio and now is enthusiastically for Obama and Biden! There is NO WAY - NO WAY - that ANY WOMAN who really BELIEVED in the ISSUES that HILLARY stood for could POSSIBLY VOTE FOR MCCAIN and PALIN!!! NO WAY!!!! The ISSUES are just too important! A woman's right to choose, equal pay, the Supreme Court, etc. (and, btw, we are in our mid-50s!!)


Posted by: Rita | September 9, 2008 6:04 PM | Report abuse

"the Democrats also have a serious candidate who tells the truth, speaks in complex sentences, thinks deeply about the serious issues of the day, has developed strong positions in areas of domestic and international policy, has earned the respect of world leaders, has worked hard for over twenty-five years to improve the lives of ordinary people, and who has the intelligence, education, poise, sophistication, and character to effectively lead our nation back to greatness."


and yet has never demonstrated a single accomplishement with all that going for him. Maybe he will eventually find himself at his next job.

Posted by: kingofzouk | September 9, 2008 6:04 PM | Report abuse

I think these women who are flocking to Palin's side are NOT former Hillary supporters, but rather GOP and Independent CULTURALLY CONSERVATIVE women who supported Huckabee, Romney, etc. in the primaries, or who are just not that interested in politics, and who were not that enamored with McCain before! I support Obama here in Ohio. My best friend was an ARDENT backer of HILLARY here in Ohio and now is enthusiastically for Obama and Biden! There is NO WAY - NO WAY - that ANY WOMAN who really BELIEVED in the ISSUES that HILLARY stood for could POSSIBLY VOTE FOR MCCAIN and PALIN!!! NO WAY!!!! The ISSUES are just too important! A woman's right to choose, equal pay, the Supreme Court, etc. (and, btw, we are in our mid-50s!!)


Posted by: Rita | September 9, 2008 6:04 PM | Report abuse

To all voters who voted for GW Bush:
Is it true when you voted for Bush, you were convinced he was the best candidate?

In hindsight, was he? Maybe you still dislike Gore and Kerry, but look what we all got instead. For those of you who have changed your minds about Bush, another question:
How many years did it take you to figure out this man is no good for this country? And how many years did he have a full Republican Congressional majority to back his policies? (Answer- 6 of the 8).

So, do you REALLY think things will change if McCain gets elected? If you really do think so, HOW?

Please remember: WE STILL HAVE A REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT, AND THE REPUBLICANS WANT TO BRAINWASH YOU TO VOTE FOR ANOTHER ONE!

If you have liked Bush, you will love McCain. But if you have had second thoughts about his leadership, be very wary of any more Republicans in the White House.

Posted by: madman | September 9, 2008 5:59 PM | Report abuse

"We red blooded americans don't care much for you snobby blue blooders. we pick up flags found on the floor."


Yeah...flags made in China, where all the jobs are going.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2008 5:51 PM

something tells me you Libs wouldn't take a job working in a flag-making factory. the wages would be too low. so to correct that, you would either join a union which would tack on such exhorbitant charges that a 2 dollar flag would now cost 20 bucks. Or you would seek the government's help to make the flag-making business more fair. this would not cost 18 bucks extra per flag for all flag purchasers. Instead, every tax paying citizen would pay 40 bucks per flag so this business could stick around and Dem pols can keep getting elected.

Lib economics.

Posted by: kingofzouk | September 9, 2008 5:59 PM | Report abuse

"We red blooded americans don't care much for you snobby blue blooders. we pick up flags found on the floor."

We also pick up the Democrats line for change because we don't have any ideas of our own.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2008 5:58 PM | Report abuse

Obama can certainly discuss the issues...and discuss and discuss. As a big supporter, I am quite concerned with his seeming inability to get concise on the issues. We KNOW he is brillant and capable, but even for me, it's too much talk. Obama, please, I'm begging you. Make your case now and do so quickly...in 10 words or less! (Don't wait for the debates. McCain will just show up and utter 2 word answers and snappy comebacks, just like he did at Saddleback.) Stop saying 'if they want to have a debate on the issues...'. Don't you see, the Reps want to finish this before the debates, and polls show they are having luck with hardening attitudes. Get control. Get concise. Do it now. Save this election for America. Please.

Posted by: pjtx | September 9, 2008 5:57 PM | Report abuse

John McCain has a personality? Where does he keep it?

Posted by: Barb | September 9, 2008 5:57 PM | Report abuse

We red blooded americans don't care much for you snobby blue blooders. we pick up flags found on the floor.

Posted by: kingofzouk | September 9, 2008 5:29 PM
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You know a person that does not bleed red?
You might pick those flags up pal, but I would suggest that "WAR IS NOT A FLAG WAVING EVENT"! Killing the other guy simply because he's carrying a different flag is STUPID! ENOUGH ALREADY!!!!

Posted by: Harried | September 9, 2008 5:57 PM | Report abuse

NEW LINGO: CLINTON

clin'-tun:

1. (noun) a force for good that you need to win, but against which you bear past personal grudges, past the point where it was relevant to anyone but yourself.
e.g. "Barack Obama did himself in by acting out against that CLINTON."

2. (verb) to sabotage or undermine by acting out some grudge or personal resentment over a rivalry, well past the point where you had already won.
e.g. "BY CLINTONING his own campaign, Barack Obama made sure that people can't blame "racism" for his humiliating losses.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 9, 2008 5:56 PM | Report abuse

This is not a personality contest, it is a political contest. The most critical question therefore is how many voters are registered as Democrats and how many as Republicans.

The Dems have swamped the Repubs in registration this year and also those who identify as Democrats is up in overwhelming numbers. On top of this Democratic enthusiasm and motivation is through the roof this year.

These factors will decide this election. Democrats have the advantage in all categories that matter: registration, party identification, and motivation.

And oh yeah, the Democrats also have a serious candidate who tells the truth, speaks in complex sentences, thinks deeply about the serious issues of the day, has developed strong positions in areas of domestic and international policy, has earned the respect of world leaders, has worked hard for over twenty-five years to improve the lives of ordinary people, and who has the intelligence, education, poise, sophistication, and character to effectively lead our nation back to greatness.

Palin/McCain has George Bush.

Obama takes this election in a walk.

Posted by: dee | September 9, 2008 5:55 PM | Report abuse

"Imagine only being ahead by 2 in PA. "

Imagine being down 3 in Colorado and down 5 in Nevada.

Posted by: bondjedi | September 9, 2008 5:47 PM

I am imagining it. the numbers till don't lie. I also imagine it must be hard to climb uphill on a giant mountain of fluff.

Posted by: kingofzouk | September 9, 2008 5:52 PM | Report abuse

"We red blooded americans don't care much for you snobby blue blooders. we pick up flags found on the floor."


Yeah...flags made in China, where all the jobs are going.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2008 5:51 PM | Report abuse

I hope Joe Lieberman (!) does a better job preparing Palin for debates than he did as a candidate.

Posted by: bondjedi | September 9, 2008 5:41 PM

Wasn't he your VP nomination before your party went all angry and loopy?

Posted by: just sayin | September 9, 2008 5:50 PM | Report abuse

Liberal coward - when you guys finally come up with something to discusss of more recent vintage than pre-Carter 60's era socialism, I will be happy to tear it down.

Until then, you picked personalities over substance and now you are getting beat at your own game. We always had you on deeds, now we have you on looks too.

Posted by: kingofzouk | September 9, 2008 4:47 PM
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Personality over substance *defines* Sarah Palin. Politics over country *defines* the decision to nominate her. Don't piss on my shoe and tell me it's raining.

Posted by: Republican for Obama | September 9, 2008 5:49 PM | Report abuse

King of:
Just like being angry, shouting, insulting and turning off all reasonable people is. you just can't help yourselves.

Exactly what are you doing again? Take the high ground. You are acting no better.

Posted by: el buzz | September 9, 2008 5:49 PM | Report abuse

"Imagine only being ahead by 2 in PA. "

Imagine being down 3 in Colorado and down 5 in Nevada.

Posted by: bondjedi | September 9, 2008 5:47 PM | Report abuse

"Palin isn't fit to run a carwash"

This is true. She was unsuccessful at running a business to wash cars. Hmmm.

Posted by: fourmoreplease | September 9, 2008 5:47 PM | Report abuse

I support soldiers for a living. Most of us will be voting for your anti-hero, Obama. How's that grab you, big man?

Posted by: madman | September 9, 2008 5:36 PM

I work for one of those evil, for-profit corporations. Most of us will be voting to stay profitable - that is Republican.

bonjedi - I don't care about 15 point leads. I only need a 1 point lead. but I do appreciate the extra room just in case. something tells me if the shoe were on the other foot you would be crowing about it. but you Libs should be well-versed in accepting defeat by now. do any of you even remember winning a presidential election ever? Ok, how about a war? you seem to relish defeat there too. I am so sorry all that defeat is not turning out as you hoped. hope hope hoped.

Posted by: kingofzouk | September 9, 2008 5:46 PM | Report abuse

We red blooded americans don't care much for you snobby blue blooders. we pick up flags found on the floor.

Posted by: kingofzouk | September 9, 2008 5:29 PM
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Oh yes IDIOT KINGOFZOUK, Obama is "THE BLUE BLOOD" and John McCain is the "SERF"! Wake UP!!!! Geez, the Old Senile Degenerate does not even know how many houses are legally his!

Posted by: Harried | September 9, 2008 5:45 PM | Report abuse

Dear Chris Cillizza,

Please, a little less inside baseball when writing this blog. Are we all supposed to know that "Jmart" refers to Jonathan Martin? You're not texting your buddies, you're writing a column for the Post.

Posted by: SMC | September 9, 2008 5:44 PM | Report abuse

Obama needs to focus AMericans on the fact that the McCain campaign is "Running on Empty". Things are a mess and most Americans see it and want something done. He should also focus on the flip side of personality - McCain's recklessness and reckless decision making style, his volative temperment, and selling out of his principles to embrace so many Bush position.
Obama can also score on the fact of who will work harder for the American people, to which his story is the clear pull yourself up by your bootstraps.
If running against McCrank and the Pit Bull, its not about making them not likable but making the majority of people worry about the soundness of their integrity and their judgement.

Posted by: nclwtk | September 9, 2008 5:42 PM | Report abuse

McCain has no plans for this country, similiar to the Bush Administration. No real policies or decisions were made by the Bush administration that made a difference for the American people. If McCain is elected we will have another 4 years without leadership. Hipocracy runs rampant on the GOP side of the house. If McCain is elected I will get a second job spend as little as possible and brace for impact. God speed.

Posted by: Big Tim | September 9, 2008 5:42 PM | Report abuse

Colorado will definitely flip Democrat. Bye bye Republi-cants.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2008 5:32 PM

Still can't do the simple math huh? ignorant and stupid and liberal is no way to go through life.

Co has just nine votes. If all else stays the same the total will then be 279 to 261. and it is likely that NH (4) will flip back to the good side. We can then give up NM (5) and NV (5) and still win.

Poor Libs, failed math. no wonder you can't do any econ right either.

and if you lose PA, game over. Imagine only being ahead by 2 in PA. Backing another loser seems to be in your DNA. Just like being angry, shouting, insulting and turning off all reasonable people is. you just can't help yourselves.

Posted by: kingofzouk | September 9, 2008 5:41 PM | Report abuse

"Obama winning in NJ and PA - congratulations. you all must be very proud of hanging on to all the states that every Democrat has gotten for decades. how are you numbers in Ma and NY? how about DC and Md?"

You're a funny man, zouk. But you know that you're beating a broken drum when you roll out 15 point poll leads that don't hold up upon a moment's scrutiny. The talking point from the GOP since the end of the convention has been "look at the polls," and the bottom line is that if you were to accept the state-by-state polling, it's an Obama/Biden victory.

But enjoy the personality bounce. The Minneapolis party was fun (insert Larry Craig joke here), but now comes the hangover. I hope Joe Lieberman (!) does a better job preparing Palin for debates than he did as a candidate.

Posted by: bondjedi | September 9, 2008 5:41 PM | Report abuse

Ah, happy days are here again! The Demos are only two months from electing Obama.

Posted by: madman | September 9, 2008 5:39 PM | Report abuse

Ah kingofzouk, go get a job. I support soldiers for a living. Most of us will be voting for your anti-hero, Obama. How's that grab you, big man?

Posted by: madman | September 9, 2008 5:36 PM | Report abuse

Of COURSE the Republicans want this to be an election on personality.

What's that lawyer joke:
"If the law is on your side, pound on the law;
if the facts are on your side, pound on the facts;
if neither is on your side, pound on the table."

Everything from domestic to forgien is a mess - they've nothing left BUT personality.

Posted by: NoOneImportant | September 9, 2008 5:32 PM | Report abuse

What are these "American Values" people say Obama lacks? Because when my father-in-law says the same thing, he's really referring to more personal aspects of who Obama is. His "funny" name being one of those. The color of his skin unfortunately being another. What exactly is he lacking that makes him lacking in "American Values?"

Difficulty: No citing the email you got from some random lady at your church stating CONCLUSIVELY that Obama is really a Muslim-"Black-Liberation"-Kenyan-Terrorist intent on handing our country over to Iran. Or using the words "maverick", "executive experience", or cheap name-calling (ie. Dumbicrats, Libtards, etc.) Issues, please.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2008 5:32 PM | Report abuse

Colorado will definitely flip Democrat. Bye bye Republi-cants.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2008 5:32 PM | Report abuse

bonjedi - Obama winning in NJ and PA - congratulations. you all must be very proud of hanging on to all the states that every Democrat has gotten for decades. how are you numbers in Ma and NY? how about DC and Md?

I will wait to hear about the states he is going to flip. I suppose you know he must flip at least one to actually win the election. and he is very close to losing several that went for Kerry. Like PA? He must really be despised by those bitter gun toting religious freaks for that to happen. don't think it is going to be FL or OH. what else you got? remember that NH is slipping away from you too.

We red blooded americans don't care much for you snobby blue blooders. we pick up flags found on the floor.

Posted by: kingofzouk | September 9, 2008 5:29 PM | Report abuse

While McCain's story of personal heroism was known -- almost verbatim -- to political insiders, large numbers of average voters knew next to nothing about the torture and suffering the Arizona senator actually endured during his imprisonment.
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Hey pal will you tell your readers that McCain was not a "FIGHTER PILOT" he was a "BOMBER PILOT". He dropped bombs on women and children from 15,000 feet. Simply put...A TERRORIST WITH AN AIRPLANE!
They did not kill him because his rich Admiral father payed for his life! Start from that and then talk about all the revelations of his HEROISM!
A lot of people did not come home from that one, and a lot that did came back in pieces that have never been put back together! This John McCain is every bit the self indulgent degenerate son of a rich father that George W. Bush is!

Posted by: Harried | September 9, 2008 2:41 PM
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Upon further review, the decision stands, with the added fact that John McCain is now running with the crowd that trashed his child and has found the MOTHER BEAST VP that will trash hers! SO MUCH FOR FAMILY VALUES!!

Posted by: Harried | September 9, 2008 5:29 PM | Report abuse

America gets the elected officials it deserves. Palin isn't fit to run a carwash, and yet she's shiny and new, and somehow that's enough for most folks. If she becomes president, God help us. It would only be more evidence that the country is in decline, and cannot self-correct.

Posted by: S. | September 9, 2008 5:28 PM | Report abuse

I'd argue you need to go a step further beyond even making the campaign about issues. To succeed, the Obama campaign will need to make this election about the Future v. the Past. Obama did this very effectively in the Democratic Nomination campaign against Clinton with the "Turn the Page" appeal which framed Clinton as a vestige of the polarized politics of the past which needed to be cast aside.

Versus McCain, Obama needs to cast the election as a referendum on American's future, with emphasis on how his policies on the Economy, Health Care, Education, Infrastructure, Energy/Environment will be better for the U.S.' future. This involves tying McCain to the Bush record and the failed policies of the Bush era. Bush is extremely unpopular. His policies are even less popular.

McCain cannot escape, no matter how hard he tries, that he is a Republican and therefore has been an enabler of most Bush policies. This message needs to be hammered into the public's collective consciousness.

Posted by: OHIO CITIZEN | September 9, 2008 5:28 PM | Report abuse

When Obama and Biden win, I hope they shut out the Republicans from doing ANYTHING for 8 years! Maybe we can give them a state and some good drugs to take. Or better yet, just imprison them for being stupid.

Then maybe we can get back to enjoying our country again.

GO OBAMA!

Posted by: madman | September 9, 2008 5:25 PM | Report abuse

Reality check, my wingnut darlings:

PA Obama +2 9/9/08 Rasmussen
NJ Obama +6 9/10/08 FD
FL Tie 9/9/08 Rasmussen
CO Obama +3 9/9/08 Rasmussen (what happened to the WingNut end-timers in Colorado Springs? Maybe the speaking in tongues background of Palin will turn them out)

I know. Your gut response is to throw up the +20s McCain enjoys in MT and AL. Too bad cow and sheep populations don't earn any extra electoral votes.

Obama is doing the same thing to McCain that he did to Clinton - picking off the districts that matter. Clinton made the dubious argument that delegates don't count, now McShame is going to have to explain why the electoral college doesn't matter.

Posted by: bondjedi | September 9, 2008 5:23 PM | Report abuse

Look here sweetie, I mean governor Palin, being good looking and reading speeches off teleprompters is no way to run a campaign. you have to answer questions, you have to defend positions, you have to have upstanding friends, you must be able to gather and spend other people's money.

um, uh, oh dear, on second thought, let me get back to you on that.

Posted by: snObama | September 9, 2008 5:22 PM | Report abuse

My, how the left has been shocked by the rise of McCain-Palin. They have to be just apoplectic that their annoited deity is proving to be mortal.

Posted by: Sam | September 9, 2008 5:22 PM | Report abuse

Al Qaeda and Republicans are made for each other. They both love to kill Americans.

The Republicans do it with their "health care" system, which kills 75 thousand Americans a year.

Al Qaeda uses terrorism.

So, why do Americans love Republicans?
Americans love the Republicans because Americans know that the only route left for them in this outsourced, corporatist economy is kissing rich white butt. Republicans are the rich white butts, and they show Americans how to kiss it.

Kissy, kiss.

That's why we're going down the tubes, folks.

Posted by: dissent | September 9, 2008 5:22 PM | Report abuse

Kingofzouk...who was fooled for the past eight years? I believe it was you.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2008 5:20 PM | Report abuse

HEY! I have to put the breaks on this section real fast.

What is this about Palin attempting to fire a librarian for not censoring, or chucking books?

What the heck is THAT all about? I would love censorship on plenty, but some of those bold books are designed to educate and increase some level of awareness. Furthermore, what about stepping on the toes of others who do not believe as we do? What is the agenda behind those actions? Turn people away?

Hello, can we say the word:
C-O-N-S-T-I-T-U-T-I-O-N ?????? Some people take the constitution, believers or not, very seriously. HOW can they get up there and talk about their "patriotism" and not uphold the darn constitution for the sake of the many who do care?

What is THAT all about?

Posted by: Obama2008 | September 9, 2008 5:19 PM | Report abuse

Hopefully, the left-wing media will go down with the hussein sinking ship!

Posted by: ALEX H. | September 9, 2008 5:12 PM

It has already begun. airhead amrica is pretty much gone to due bankruptcy and low class non humor.

and now the kings of ignorance have been demoted - Olbermann and Mathews. they never held a flickering candle to O'Reilly. Likewise MSDNC and the national Barack channel (NBC) and even the communist news network (CNN), all in the ratings toilet.

NYTimes stock is at a 30 year low and subscriptions are falling like a lead ballon.

the Pelois/Reid congress is below ten percent approval rating. that includes family, friends, staffers and paid lobbyists. It doesn't seem to include anyone else though.

the Obama polls are sinking like a stone.

so you see, the karma is settling into place. you can't fool all of the people all the time. you can however, fool the Libs most of the time.

Posted by: kingofzouk | September 9, 2008 5:18 PM | Report abuse

Anyone who really believes that McCain is going to win has had way too many teeth pulled by the tooth fairy.
From the kingofzoop to Asspergal to all the other Republicans: they think their brainwashing will make everyone believe we have never lived through the last 8 years run by none other than their ex-hero, the Supreme Idiot, GW Bush!
GOT A NEWS FLASH FOR YOU: On Nov 4th, you LOSE!

Posted by: madman | September 9, 2008 5:17 PM | Report abuse

Everyone's mother always taught us how to judge a man. It is on what he does and not on what he say's. Obama gives great speeches but has no history of sponsoring any bills to address any of the issues he speaks so fondly of. Where John McCain has a long history of first sponsoring then getting passed some of the most important bills submitted in the last two decades. He may not be the great speaker Obama is but he'll follow through on his promises. If Obama gets elected he'll spend the next four years signing the bills John McCain gets passed.

Posted by: larry | September 9, 2008 5:16 PM | Report abuse

THE END OF THE LINE or HOW DOTH MY MEDIA SLEEP?

So three days after the inaguration America wakes up and realizes it has elected another kook with "gut instinct" as President and a right wing kook (AKA "hockey Mom") as VP. We drill more oil, slide into a depression, ignore climate change, get into another war, ignore the genocide in Darfur, try to revive the neo-con vision of an Imperial America, ban abortion, give tax cuts to the rich, and religion continues to make inroads into our public life.

Meanwhile, John McCain gets older and more tired. Leaving the running of the country to random corporate christian conservatives whom he has appointed to the cabinet in exchange for victory.

Meanwhile his approval ratings hover at 10%. And the only thing the rest of us will be able to say, is We Told You So.

So thanks to the media for giving McCain a pass on his temper, his ties to lobbists, his sell out to the kooky christian conservatives, his non-economic plan. All in the name of "balance?"

What the hell is that about? It seems as if the media is only interested in an interesting race, not a government which can govern with intelligence and skill.

WAKE UP WAKE UP WAKE UP

Posted by: Kurt | September 9, 2008 5:16 PM | Report abuse

I'm more than a little concerned by a man who cuts and runs from Larry King.

I'm even more concerned by a woman who cuts and runs from anyone with a microphone.

Posted by: HPVA | September 9, 2008 5:15 PM | Report abuse

"Sarah Palin has NOTHING/ZERO/ZILCH/NADA to do with “commanding the Alaskan National Guard.”

I saw a video of one of McCain's campaigners using that exact talking point. The host responded, "What? That's the Pentagon, that's the White House, that's General Petreaus..."

The guy couldn't respond to one instance that she has the least bit of experience there or tout her understanding. McCain's been using that against Obama, but the reason it stands out is because of the extremely credible light that plenty view McCain under, and yet with all of his "credibility" he goes and picks Palin of all other male and female candidates. It does stand out on McCain's behalf.

Posted by: Obama2008 | September 9, 2008 5:14 PM | Report abuse

"And the fact Gov Palin HAS positions, beliefs, core values"

Don't forget that she likes to speak in tongues and blast away at critters from helicopters, as any true sportsmen would.

Why can't Sheep-ublicans get past the fact that the vetting committee for Palin was the three girls from the ZZ Top videos? Her sole qualification is the ZZ Top key ring!

Posted by: bondjedi | September 9, 2008 5:14 PM | Report abuse

The stench of desperation and fear are now starting to permeate the dem campaign as McCain-Palin continue to increase their lead in the polls.

As more and more voters compare the Real American candidates with "sweetie" hussein and plagiarist-joe, the latter will, like the dem's previous elitist, pompous gas-bag candidate kerry and adulterer edwards, just deflate and blow away.

It's going to be fun watching the antics of the loony-left liberal media trying everything to save their losers. Hopefully, the left-wing media will go down with the hussein sinking ship!

Posted by: ALEX H. | September 9, 2008 5:12 PM | Report abuse

Obama will lose on issues also--he is NOT reflective of American values.

Liberal media will misinterpret the Palin Phenom with a personality story. Its more--its the substance of her positions.

And the fact Gov Palin HAS positions, beliefs, core values-- Obama Lite is just cotton candy.

Obama Lite-there is no "there" there.

Posted by: JaxMax | September 9, 2008 5:10 PM | Report abuse

wow the polls are really tanking for THE ONE. He is down by 15 points and more.

what goes up, must come down. buh Bye. don't let the door hit you on the way out.

silly Libs manage to blow another one with a 50 point halftime lead. how about you show up for the second half next time around? ha ha ha

Posted by: kingofzouk | September 9, 2008 5:10 PM | Report abuse

If Obama is on the losing end of a personality contest, then Palin is on the losing end of an intelligence, sophistication and integrity contest.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2008 5:09 PM | Report abuse

Absolute comedy to see Asspergirl's posts, crying about the hits Sarah Palin takes while posting wingnut gossip and cut-and-paste hate as "payback" for those who take issue with her grade-z SwiftBoating.

Asspergirl, please let us know when the June surprise is coming. It's three months late, and the MSM would like to know if it should be called the October Surprise.

Posted by: bondjedi | September 9, 2008 5:07 PM | Report abuse

That's what it's all about, the issues :)

Posted by: Obama2008 | September 9, 2008 5:07 PM | Report abuse

I'd rather have two little heads that work than one big one on top with nothing in it! That would be most Republicans.

Posted by: madman | September 9, 2008 5:06 PM | Report abuse

...To all of the sad RNC clowns who think that we are afraid for the election and peeuuu Palin..

...how about you morons realizing that McCaint is nuts and letting a sophmore governor of the least populated state can run a nation of almost 300 million...

.....you idiots love lies so much you believe them to be true , but then you forget the lies you once said and make up new ones when you forget about the last ones you have just uttered out of your halitosis encrusted mouths....

Heres a good one "Palin had foreign policy experience because Alaska is next to Russia.."

...What a pathetic and stupid thing to utter out of this '72 ford maverick (Old, rusty and bad on gasoline)

I found this stupid statement not only howlingly funny but very frightening...

As it that weren’t enough, John McCaint offers one of the most deceptive lines of his entire campaign, stressing four times that Alaska is America’s “largest state.” Geographically speaking, yes, McCaint is right.

But in real terms — such as population (683,478) and nominal GDP ($44 million) — Alaska ranks near the very bottom, at 47th and 45th, respectively.

These semantic games are laughable. I wonder if the campaign realizes how foolish he sounds.

Another amazing quote:

“So she is experienced. She’s talented. She knows how to lead and she has been vetted by the people of the state of Alaska. But most importantly, people in America want change. They don’t want somebody from inside the beltway.”

If the American people want change — which is the one thing in the entire interview John McCaint actually gets right — why the hell would they elect someone who has been part of the Washington establishment for 25 years?!?!!!?

Does he even hear the words that are coming out of his mouth?

But wait, we’re not done. Check out this one:

GIBSON: But you criticized, for a long time, Sen. Obama based on his lack of experience. […] Jan. 6, I’m quoting you, “Sen. Obama does not have the national security experience and background to be president.”

MCCAINT: I said he didn’t have the judgment.

GIBSON: Sarah Palin does?

MCCAINT: I said that he didn’t have the judgment. He doesn’t have the judgment. He didn’t have the judgment on Iraq. He still refuses to acknowledge that the surge has succeeded. Gov. Palin knows the surge has succeeded. She’s the commander of the Alaskan National Guard. He said that Iran was a tiny problem. He’s never visited south of our border. He has no experience on these issues.

Leave aside for the moment the fact that McCaint is just spitting out nonsensical one-line lies, and focus on the two bits I highlighted.

John McCaint seems to believe that the history of our involvement in Iraq begins in January 2007, when the surge began. Because if we go back to the real start of the war in 2002, he would look like a fool saying Obama doesn’t have the judgment on Iraq considering he predicted exactly what the consequences of an invasion would entail. Secondly, and this is a talking point that needs to be forcefully blown out the water, Sarah Palin has NOTHING/ZERO/ZILCH/NADA to do with “commanding the Alaskan National Guard.” It’s a nice-sounding talking point, but it is a bald-faced LIE.

Either McCaint is dumb,and in the throws of dementia heading on a path the full blown Alzheimers, or he thinks we are.

Either way, McCaint and peeuu Palin are unfit to serve.

...But maybe the 6 am breakfast at Denny's

Posted by: AlexP1 | September 9, 2008 5:04 PM | Report abuse

If Caribou Barbie is God fearing, my name is Ronald Reagan.

Posted by: madman | September 9, 2008 5:02 PM | Report abuse

>>Birdman wrote: "Remember when we picked a president that we would rather have a beer with than the guy who actually seemed like he knew what he was doing?"

And Obama is the guy who knows what he's doing versus being the guy other guys love? You must be deluded by your man-crush on him.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 9, 2008 5:01 PM | Report abuse

I'd vote Clinton-Obama.

I wouldn't vote Obama-Clinton unless it was made clear he considered the Clintons his primary mentors and we wouldn't have that horrid, dysfunctional Nancy Pelosi & Harry Reid running the country from Congress.

But Obama's too narcissistic and stupid to do either option. It's his big flaws that make him such a loser despite his charms. It was easy for McCain to outwit him; it's not hard to trap a narcissist in their own overconfidence.

The fortunate thing is that he's young enough to recover. Maybe run again in 12 or 16 years if he ever does anything substantial.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 9, 2008 5:00 PM | Report abuse

Remember when we picked a president that we would rather have a beer with than the guy who actually seemed like he knew what he was doing? The eight years that followed were a night mare. It took 4-6 years before people realized that the down to earth guy they would like to have a beer with really could not run the country.
We are one the verge of the same thing. People are basing their decision on the veteran guy and the hockey mom next door. How long will be it before people realize that they picked a neocon who will likely exacerbate our current bad footing with foreign policy and the economy and the theocon who will play a role in stacking the supreme court with ultra conservative judges.

Posted by: Birdman | September 9, 2008 5:00 PM | Report abuse

personalities good - POW and hockey "pitbull" mom

issues bad - Federal Deficit Estimated At Near-Record $407B

Posted by: Bill J | September 9, 2008 5:00 PM | Report abuse

Speaking of drafts, how do you think McCain will stand on that issue with his strong desire to involve us in more wars?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2008 4:59 PM | Report abuse

"What does it say about McCain that he picked a VP with so little knowledge in foreign policy when he knows the stakes that America is facing. "

How come this issue never came up when BJ clinton was running, or the ever-so-timid Carter or any other governor that has run in the entire history of the country?

Or to be very blunt about it - when Obama started out. all of a sudden Libs are concerned with experience.

the Dem party has become a laughingstock. the lowest rated congress in history, capable of ruining an economy in two short years. the least qualified candidate ever. the most stale VP in history with a record equal to Dick Morris in being wrong about every last thing.

Posted by: kingofzouk | September 9, 2008 4:55 PM | Report abuse

Dump Obama and draft Hillary!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2008 4:53 PM ^
Yeah!its still not too late!Obama can stay as VP.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2008 4:54 PM | Report abuse

Both your heads are little heads madman. You've proved that with your own statement.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2008 4:54 PM | Report abuse

ANOTHER OBAMA CAMPAIGN PERSONALITY ISSUE:
THE HECTORING, DESPERATE, NEGATIVE MEDIA

Quite frankly, the negative, Sarah Palin-bashing, hectoring media is coming off like the voice of the Obama campaign. It's creating a pall of negativity and meanness in the liberal voices that is just plain ugly.

Front-runner unplugged:
Media Infatuation with him backfires
By Michael Graham

"...The national media are dominated by enthusiastic Obama supporters desperate to see Obama the Enlightened win the White House, heal our souls, reset our thermostats and shut down the Fox News Channel.

"And that’s precisely how their coverage of Palin comes across: desperate.

"The media has thrown every imaginable charge at Palin, from banning books to cheating her way to the much-coveted title of Miss Wasilla. Along the way, media outlets like The New York Times [NYT], MSNBC and The Boston Globe-Democrat have gotten story after story just plain wrong.

"Palin does not support teaching creationism in science class.

"She didn’t fire the Wasilla librarian for not banning books that Palin didn’t like.

"As governor she signed budget increases - not cuts - for programs targeting teen pregnancy and special-needs children.

"And on and on - so many false and silly stories that entire Web sites have been established just to correct them.

"And yet the misreporting continues...."

(more at http://www.bostonherald.com/news/opinion/op_ed/view.bg?articleid=1117752)

All the irrational Sarah-bashing looks like behind-the-scenes negative campaigning by Obama. Because we all know the press wouldn't do that on their own, because they're objective, right?

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 9, 2008 4:54 PM | Report abuse

Dump Obama and draft Hillary!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2008 4:53 PM | Report abuse

muawhahaha......

A Simple God fearing Conservative WOMAN is beating the Left. She seems to be enjoying it. She sure is making it look easy. The ONE is running against her not Mac Daddy and she is creaming him. muawhahaha...... I have NEVER been so thrilled!!!!!!!!!!!


Posted by: IowaWoman | September 9, 2008 4:53 PM | Report abuse

Anonymous just advised a lot of us sexist voters to go take a cold shower.

I tried it but it didn't work. Caribou Barbie is just TOO hot. She downright melts me up!

Sorry. I guess I'll have to change my party allegiance now that I have to think like a male Republican - with my second head!

Get my point, Einsteins?

Posted by: madman | September 9, 2008 4:52 PM | Report abuse

Republicans are hot for their mothers. Oedipus freaks.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2008 4:50 PM | Report abuse

Ordinary working class people did not lead the stampede to Barack Obama, even before his disdain for them slipped out in unguarded moments.

The agenda of the left is fine for the world that they envision as existing today and the world they want to create tomorrow.

That is a world not hemmed in on all sides by inherent constraints and the painful trade-offs that these constraints imply. Theirs is a world where there are attractive, win-win "solutions" in place of those ugly trade-offs in the world that the rest of us live in.

Theirs is a world where we can just talk to opposing nations and work things out, instead of having to pour tons of money into military equipment to keep them at bay. The left calls this "change" but in fact it is a set of notions that were tried out by the Western democracies in the 1930s-- and which led to the most catastrophic war in history.

For those who bother to study history, it was precisely the opposite policies in the 1980s-- pouring tons of money into military equipment-- which brought the Cold War and its threat of nuclear annihilation to an end.

The left fought bitterly against that "arms race" which in fact lifted the burden of the Soviet threat, instead of leading to war as the elites claimed.

Personally, I wish Ronald Reagan could have talked the Soviets into being nicer, instead of having to spend all that money. Only experience makes me skeptical about that "kinder and gentler" approach and the vision behind it.

Posted by: sowell | September 9, 2008 4:50 PM | Report abuse

"Liberals" have always been Liberal and inclusive. We are the people who don't judge someone for getting pregnant, young or old. We go so far as to provide programs for them, funded by the government. The conservative Republicans hate us for it.

Posted by: Margaret | September 9, 2008 4:49 PM | Report abuse

Liberal coward - when you guys finally come up with something to discusss of more recent vintage than pre-Carter 60's era socialism, I will be happy to tear it down.

Until then, you picked personalities over substance and now you are getting beat at your own game. We always had you on deeds, now we have you on looks too.

Posted by: kingofzouk | September 9, 2008 4:47 PM | Report abuse

To the dopes who keep saying that McCain and Bush are the same on energy:

The 2005 energy bill was described by Hillary Clinton as "Dick Cheney's energy bill" and described by the left coaster blog as "a worthless piece of corporate welfare".

http://www.theleftcoaster.com/archives/004211.php

Obama voted FOR this bill, and McCain voted AGAINST this bill.

Obama was with Bush, McCain was not. Obama voted for corporate welfare, McCain did not.

How is that for a policy debate, dope.

Posted by: Razorback | September 9, 2008 4:47 PM | Report abuse

What does it say about McCain that he picked a VP with so little knowledge in foreign policy when he knows the stakes that America is facing.

Nobody wants anything to happen if he wins, including Democrats (who would be faced with a Palin presidency too), but isn't it more than just maverick? Isn't it dangerously reckless?

He'd only met her once! He has no clue how she will govern, or how she will engage the Russians.

Isn't that exactly "being willing to lose a war in order to win an election?"

Posted by: THE REAL ISSUE | September 9, 2008 4:47 PM | Report abuse

Democrats are whiney losers. You couldnt beat Bush TWICE. And now you steal the nomination from Hillary/Bill and your losing to Mccain. Who couldnt beat Bush either? So that means you will lose to the guy who lost to Bush?
Losers. Good news $25 a month and he will invade pakistan which will cause WW3.

LOL. War Soccer Moms who go hunting

Posted by: Republicans are Rich | September 9, 2008 4:46 PM | Report abuse

Who besides Obamanuts are stupid enough to believe everything they see on youtube?

"Gee whiz! if it on the net and especially on youtube it must be true!"

Posted by: William | September 9, 2008 4:43 PM | Report abuse

Sarah rides a Harley in midwinter in a miniskirt and no undies.

Obama has a ten speed and a really cool helmut. He keeps his pant leg banded so he doesn't get the grease from the chain on his pleated khakis.

Posted by: kingofzouk | September 9, 2008 4:34 PM


See...the kingofzouk just made my point double!!!! good going!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2008 4:43 PM | Report abuse

So many responses, so straight to the point:
McCain/Palin = Bush Term 3

Talking points against McCain/Palin:
*Abstinence only education is a clear failure
*McCain's health care tax credit is not indexed to inflation, thus will be worth less than Obama's within a year a two since health care costs rise substantially higher than inflation
*Wants to continue spending at least $10B/month for the unforseable future on the Iraq war, that's money that could be used to pay down the US deficit so that our assets/dollar do not continue to spiral down
*"Drill Baby Drill!" - Are you kidding me? This is the matra of the republican party. They apparantly forgot to pay attention in grade school when we were taught about fossil fuels and how they are finite.

Posted by: MBAcapitalist | September 9, 2008 4:42 PM | Report abuse

scientist1-

I agree, "Idiocracy" should be required viewing at this point. This is where we seem to be headed everyone.

Where are some of you getting this "liberal ivory-tower elitist" thing? When you're screaming that the black son of a single mother is "too elitist for you", something is going terribly wrong in this country. The guy who has lost count of how many houses he owns seems less "elite?" The guy whose wife was wearing $300,000 at the RNC is less "elite?" Really?

Why do people want a person "just like them" in the Whitehouse? I'll be the first to admit I'm wildly under-qualified to become president. I want someone who is obviously my intellectual superior. Why does intelligence and education make someone "too elite?"

It's really quite striking how dumbed-down McCain's RNC acceptance speech felt when compared to Obama's DNC speech. Obama speaks as if we are adults. McCain's speech had an eerie, simplistic "four legs GOOD, two legs BAD" kind of feel to it. This dumbing down of not only the discourse but of policy will continue as long as we allow ourselves to be drawn in by jingoism and personality alone. We seem to not only let it continue, but actively encourage it.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2008 4:41 PM | Report abuse

I never thought I'd see the day that a 44 year old woman that looks like a mom would get so many people sexually excited. What in god's name do your wives and girlfriends look like if she's your version of hot? Take a cold shower...Geez, you're embarrassing.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2008 4:40 PM | Report abuse

Who says this election isn't about issues? Come on Barack. It is.

It's about sex, sex, sex. When you have an old horny GI Joe and a Caribou Barbie running to run things, why turn back to Bill and Hillary? And Michelle and Barack? Way too many brains. It interferes with the personality and the ability to stay on top of breaking events! I think the Republicans have finally got it right. They have turned from the only guy in the universe who never cheated to the one who would poke any beauty queen he could get in a corner - but of course - NEVER in the Oval office!

Posted by: madman | September 9, 2008 4:40 PM | Report abuse

Another way in which Obama has torpedoed his campaign:

Was Obama Right to Opt Out of Public Financing?
http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/stumper/archive/2008/09/09/was-obama-right-to-opt-out-of-public-financing.aspx

Now Obama's going to have to be out fundraising for the rest of the campaign season, with Biden being face man for his campaigning.

Biden is the new face of the Obama campaign. Wow!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2008 4:40 PM | Report abuse

Capeheart may have written an honest piece, but Chris won't let let Obama down.

Depend upon Chris's membership in the WaPo Chauvins for Obama to guarantee he'll always put a postive slant on Obama or make excuses for his gaffs, short comings, failures and flip/flops. and depend upon him to get in slams on Obama's opponents. He did it to Hillary and now to McCain and Palin.

Posted by: William | September 9, 2008 4:39 PM | Report abuse

McCain is more the same of the BS crap that we have had for the last eight years. More Iraq like wars, more deficit spending and more tax cuts for the rich. More more more of the same.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnb2IrsU1Cg

Posted by: Bush + McCain = "W"orthless | September 9, 2008 4:39 PM | Report abuse

The author of this article has surprised me that he would write such trash. I had much more respect for his ability to provide a factual article and not try to deceive the reader. He writes of McCain as though him being a POW qualifies him to be President. It takes more than just that. Additionally, the author leaves the reader with the impression that McCain and Palin have a solid resume as compared to Obama's.

For one, McCain and Palin have far less education that Obama. Palin went to five different colleges within six years before she obtained a Bachelor's degree in Journalism. McCain graduated from the NavalAcademy fifth from the bottom of a graduatng class of almost 900 students.

As compared to Obama who graduated from Columbia University for undergraduate school and graduated from Harvard Law School number one in his class. Further, Obama has not only worked as a Community Organizer as the GOP would try to mislead people. Obama was a Civil Rights Lawyer for a large firm in Chicago, Consitutional Law instructor for 12 years and served as a State Senator for eight years in Chicago prior to becoming a U.S. Senator. As for personality,Obama has lot of it. This is the reason for the large crowds he attracts in the U.S. and overseas.

As a reminder,donot forget that McCain's resume also includes the Keatings 5 scandal and family drama- extra-martial affairs leading to him leaving his first wife to marry Cindy. As for Palin, her record is being vetted by the media since McCain has failed to do so. Already, it has been revealed that Palin was involved in a legal battle while mayor that resulted in the city incurring a large deficit. For the short time Palin been governor, she has been under investigation for using her position to have former brother-in- law fired. Not to mention the drama concerning her family such as her unmarried teenage old daughter being pregnant.

God help America for those who still have not learned from the experience of the long eight years of the Republican control marked by high gas prices, unemployment, people losing there homes,the fighting of a useless war, scandals and more.................

I love my country too much to vote for McCain/Palin !

Independent Voter for Obama08!

Posted by: LSMaryland | September 9, 2008 4:38 PM | Report abuse

>>tvidie wrote: "THIS JUST IN:MCCAIN LEADING OBAMA BY 15 POINTS AMONG INDEPENDENTS (Gallup 9/8/08)"
http://www.gallup.com/poll/110137/McCain-Now-Winning-Majority-Independents.aspx

The reason for this is that Obama "pivoted" from being the party of "good personality" to being the party of "divisive attacks".

His speech at the convention was a laundry list of tired, partisan canned concepts and partisan attacks on "Republicans" and "Bush". The strategy is to engender a lot of partisan hate and contempt toward Bush & Repubs and then say "McCain is just like them" ("McSame").

But that partisan negativity that he pivoted his convention to, is a turn-off to moderates and independents, who just see more years of dysfunctional hate and divisiveness ahead.

That (and picking an old partisan like Biden) is another way in which Obama went from a young, attractive, good-personality ticket to an old, ugly, bad-personality ticket.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 9, 2008 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Sarah rides a Harley in midwinter in a miniskirt and no undies.

Obama has a ten speed and a really cool helmut. He keeps his pant leg banded so he doesn't get the grease from the chain on his pleated khakis.

Posted by: kingofzouk | September 9, 2008 4:34 PM | Report abuse

Do an internet search on "McCain" "Keating", McSame was one of the infamous Keating 5 senators who accepted campaign donations from convicted felon Keating and then tried to block the feds from prosecuting him.


Do an internet search on "McCain", "campaign" and "lobbyist". McSame currently has over 70 lobbyists working on his campaign, Obama has ZERO!! McSAME is no agent of change.


John McBush may very well be dumber than Republican President Shrub is.
Listen to how little he knows about the economy...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcdLO3jKkPo

Posted by: huh? | September 9, 2008 4:30 PM | Report abuse

Pat wrote: "The truth is WIN or LOSE the election, Obama has already WON. He's always been the underdog regardless of what the polls say. He'll be a STAR for a while and make millions. Now, how will you be affected if McCain wins? That's what you should ask yourself."

I'll be happy -- no, ecstatic -- that after 8 years of an on-the-job-trainee president Bush, that we have an experienced president in offce, and a VP who can run a family of 5 kids, and still be a shooting star, high-performance local and state executive.

No more ivy league face men elites who can't start a lawnmower, made a decision on their own or achieve something substantive on their own in their professional fields before running for president.

You can't mark a law "present" instead of either vetoing it or signing it into law!

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 9, 2008 4:30 PM | Report abuse

I have to agree with the Republicans on one thing. That pistolpackin mama has got ole GI John as horny as a ten-dick billygoat!

Cone on, you sexist Demos. Ain't it the truth?

Posted by: madman | September 9, 2008 4:28 PM | Report abuse

NEW LINGO: "BIDEN"

Is he like the dummy in bridge?

Posted by: kingofzouk | September 9, 2008 4:26 PM | Report abuse

Ha ha!

They forgot about my superdelegates! And I'll just get rid of Michigan and Florida... And I know how to game those caucus states.

All those tricks I used to win the nomination away from the more-qualified Democratic candidate, they'll come in handy now!

Posted by: Barack Obama | September 9, 2008 4:24 PM | Report abuse

mw in canada says:

"I'd rather you make a concerted PUBLIC effort to change your energy policy rather than giving billions of dollars to Pickens OR EXXON. But since you must be friends with Dick, perhaps you'd best stick with the oil, right?"

So it turns out that what Hillary said was "Dick Cheney's energy policy" was supported by OBAMA and opposed by McCain.

You need to get your facts together, dope.

Posted by: Razorback | September 9, 2008 4:23 PM | Report abuse

Some of you seem to have some type of "personal" issue with Obama--he didn't pick Hillary so I'll show him, his church, resume, etc. The truth is WIN or LOSE the election, Obama has already WON. He's always been the underdog regardless of what the polls say. He'll be a STAR for a while and make millions. Now, how will you be affected if McCain wins? That's what you should ask yourself.


*****actually it's about thwarting corruption. True, I do not like Obama because he is arrogant/obnoxious as are his supporters, but the crux of the matter is that the democratic party itself produced a sham nomination and that can not be tolerated by democrats. If we lose control of democracy within the democratic party we have lost everything.

Since the Republican Party is EXTREME CORRUPTION, panders to evangelical nuts, parlays on the fears of simple minded folks,... we still have the option of writing in Clintons name or voting Green Party.

Democrats have a responsibility to say no to Obama. He did not win the nomination, he stole it. Corruption must be thwarted. By voting for anyone other than Obama we are saying "no" to democratic sham nominations.

Posted by: Pat | September 9, 2008 4:22 PM | Report abuse

If I am voting for who I would rather have a beer with I vote for Sarah Palin.

If I am voting for who I would rather spend time with in a POW camp, I vote for John McCain.

But if I am voting for who I would trust to guide our nation through the perilous times ahead, someone who has detailed and thoughtful policy proposals covering the important issues facing our economy and our international standing, someone who has the intellect, honesty, emotional balance, education, and guts to be president I will vote for Barack Obama.

Posted by: delta | September 9, 2008 4:22 PM | Report abuse

BUMPER STICKER SUGGESTIONS!

FOR DEMS:

Change I'd switch back to GOP for!
That black guy is sure boring now.


FOR REPUBS:

Change that I'd buy diamonds for!
PALIN 4 VPILF

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 9, 2008 4:19 PM | Report abuse

There is nothing wrong with being happily stinking rich and utterly detached like McCain is. Nothing, that is, unless you make criticizing your political opponent as "elitist" and "out of touch" a centerpiece of your campaign. Rick Davis, speaking on behalf of his $100 million man John McCain, earlier this month offered the latest formulation of Barack Obama as an effete, aloof denizen of the upper class:

"Only celebrities like Barack Obama go to the gym three times a day, demand 'MET-RX chocolate roasted-peanut protein bars and bottles of a hard-to-find organic brew - Black Forest Berry Honest Tea' and worry about the price of arugula."

Of course, Davis' "arugula war" is just another attempt at misdirection. After all, John McCain's $5 million threshold where "you move from middle class to rich" is just the latest episode of his enduring disconnect from the real lives of the American people.


For starters, McCain in April declared that there had been "great progress economically" during the Bush years. On more than one occasion, he diagnosed Americans' concerns over the dismal U.S. economy as "psychological." (Phil Gramm, McCain's close friend and adviser supposedly excommunicated over his "whiners" remarks, was back with the campaign last week.) McCain, a man who owns eight homes nationwide, in March lectured Americans facing foreclosure that they ought to be "doing what is necessary -- working a second job, skipping a vacation, and managing their budgets -- to make their payments on time." And when all else fails, McCain told the people of the economically devastated regions in Martin County, Kentucky and Youngstown, Ohio, there's always eBay.


In his defense, McCain's shocking tone-deafness may just be a matter of perspective. When you're as well off as he is, anything below a $5 million income (a figure exceeding that earned on average by the top 0.1% of Americans) seems middle class.


*The $100 Million Man*
Courtesy of his wife Cindy's beer distribution fortune (one her late father apparently chose not to share with her half-sister Kathleen), the McCains are worth well over $100 million. (In the two-page tax summary she eventually released to the public, Cindy McCain reported another $6 million in 2006.) As Salon reported back in 2000, the second Mrs. McCain's millions were essential in launching her husband's political career. Unsurprisingly, the Weekly Standard's Matthew Continetti, who four years ago called Theresa Heinz-Kerry a "sugar mommy," has been silent on the topic of Cindy McCain.


*The Joys of (Eight) Home Ownership*
While fellow adulterer John Edwards was pilloried for his mansion, John McCain's eight homes around the country have received little notice or criticism. His properties include a 10 acre lake-side Sedona estate, euphemistically called a "cabin" by the McCain campaign, and a home featured in Architectural Digest. The one featuring "remote control window coverings" was recently put up for sale. Still, their formidable resources did not prevent the McCains from failing to pay taxes on a tony La Jolla, California condo used by Cindy's aged aunt.


*The Anheuser-Busch Windfall*
As it turns out, the beauty of globalization is in the eye of the beholder. While John McCain apparently played a critical role in facilitating DHL's takeover of Airborne (and with it, the looming loss of 8,000 jobs in Wilmington, Ohio), Cindy McCain is set to earn a staggering multi-million dollar pay-day from the acquisition of Anheuser-Busch by the Belgian beverage giant, In Bev. As the Wall Street Journal reported in July, Mrs. McCain runs the third largest Anheuser-Busch distributorship in the nation, and owns between $2.5 and $5 million in the company's stock. Amazingly, while Missouri's politicians of both parties lined up to try to block the sale, John McCain held a fundraiser in the Show Me State even as the In Bev deal was being finalized.


*McCain's $370,000 Personal Tax Break*
Earlier this year, the Center for American Progress analyzed John McCain's tax proposals. The conclusion? McCain's plan is radically more regressive than even that of President Bush, delivering 58% of its benefits to the wealthiest 1% of American taxpayers. McCain's born-again support for the Bush tax cuts has one additional bonus for Mr. Straight Talk: the McCains would save an estimated $373,000 a year.


*Paying Off $225,000 Credit Card Debt - Priceless*
That massive windfall from his own tax plan will come in handy for John McCain. As was reported in June, the McCains were carrying over $225,000 in credit card debt. The American Express card - don't leave your homes without it.


*Charity Begins at Home*
As Harpers documented earlier this year, the McCains are true believers in the old saying that charity begins at home:

Between 2001 and 2006, McCain contributed roughly $950,000 to [their] foundation. That accounted for all of its listed income other than for $100 that came from an anonymous donor. During that same period, the McCain foundation made contributions of roughly $1.6 million. More than $500,000 went to his kids' private schools, most of which was donated when his children were attending those institutions. So McCain apparently received major tax deductions for supporting elite schools attended by his children.

Ironically, the McCain campaign last week blasted Barack Obama for having attended a private school in Hawaii on scholarship. That attack came just weeks after John McCain held an event at his old prep school, Episcopal High, an institution where fees now top $38,000 a year.


*Private Jet Setters*
As the New York Times detailed back in April, John McCain enjoyed the use of his wife's private jet for his campaign, courtesy of election law loopholes he helped craft. Despite the controversy, McCain continued to use Cindy's corporate jet. For her part, Cindy McCain says that even with skyrocketing fuel costs, "in Arizona the only way to get around the state is by small private plane."

*Help on the Homefront*
In these tough economic times, the McCains are able to stretch their household budget. As the AP reported in April, "McCain reported paying $136,572 in wages to household employees in 2007. Aides say the McCains pay for a caretaker for a cabin in Sedona, Ariz., child care for their teenage daughter, and a personal assistant for Cindy McCain."


*Well-Heeled in $520 Shoes*
If clothes make the man, then John McCain has it made. As Huffington Post noted in July, "He has worn a pair of $520 black leather Ferragamo shoes on every recent campaign stop - from a news conference with the Dalai Lama to a supermarket visit in Bethlehem, PA." It is altogether fitting that McCain wore the golden loafers during a golf outing with President George H.W. Bush in which he rode around in cart displaying the sign, "Property of Bush #41. Hands Off."


And so it goes. John McCain proclaims $5 million finally makes you rich. Meanwhile, ABC's Charlie Gibson thinks a $200,000 income makes you middle class. And his colleague Cokie Roberts claims Barack Obama's vacation to his home state of Hawaii was "exotic."

Posted by: "I can't remember how many houses I own, I'll have to check on that" - McCain | September 9, 2008 4:18 PM | Report abuse

I love that the election has turned into a high school popularity contest. Barack was the cool kid in town and now he's been usurped by the new kid who dresses nice and makes pithy comebacks. Our country is going down the tubes and this is the political discussion that has floated to the top of the toilet bowl. We should be so proud. If it wasn't for the fact that we we're in a war, our economy is going down the drain and our education system is in the same league as some 3rd world countries I might actually find this funny. But for now, just depressing.

Posted by: Shelly | September 9, 2008 4:16 PM | Report abuse

THIS JUST IN:

MCCAIN LEADING OBAMA BY 15 POINTS AMONG INDEPENDENTS (Gallup 9/8/08)

http://www.gallup.com/poll/110137/McCain-Now-Winning-Majority-Independents.aspx

Posted by: tvidie | September 9, 2008 4:15 PM | Report abuse

What an absurd headline. Of course Obama is on the "losing end" of the personality contest: he has rightly decided that the great issues facing our nation this year demand a serious individual who applies his intellect, experience, and insight to trying to solve our problems.

Obama speaks in whole sentances based upon his careful analysis of the substance of the issues and refuses to cater to the lowest common denominator through pandering and deception.

Unlike the Palin/McCain ticket, Obama is not shallow, insincere, or dishonest.

He loses the personality contest because this campaign is not about who can be wierder or more titillating or sensationalist. Palin/McCain wins that contest hands down.

But since we are picking a president, not a "maverick" in chief, Obama is the winner by a landslide.

Posted by: dee | September 9, 2008 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Monica Lewinsky must really be enjoying this! The thought of another horny man winning, and this time with the intern right down the hall. Talk about being a heartbeat away.

Posted by: madman | September 9, 2008 4:10 PM | Report abuse

3:58 p.m. post -

"Stop - you're killing me. First I learn about the Electoral College, and now have to be told that superdelegates will not be deciding the upcoming election.

"Too much information. This is why I stick to the basics - race, innuendo, ignorance, propaganda, and hate."

Posted by: 37th&OStreet Translator | September 9, 2008 4:09 PM | Report abuse

NEW LINGO: "BIDEN"

bye'-den:
1. (noun) a useless 4th person in a pair of couples who adds nothing to the debate, attracts no attention and that everyone forgets to include in pictures around the campfire, etc.
e.g. "That Democratic VP candidate is such a BIDEN"

2. (verb) a kind of staffing decision that is so ineffective that the individual is ill-fitting baggage whose presence drags down the energy of his group;
e.g. "That Barack Obama sure BIDENED his ticket. He went from being the personality ticket to being the young guy dragging around an old blowhard doofus."

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 9, 2008 4:08 PM | Report abuse

MAKE THIS A BUMPER STICKER:

HIDING BEHIND PALIN'S SKIRTS- McCAIN SWIFTBOATS THE TRUTH

Obama needs to get out the sound bites. Excellent to have a session with Olberman discussing policies. But do not neglect the sound bites.

Posted by: Kristin2 | September 9, 2008 4:07 PM | Report abuse

hey dope, you still hanging in there on this policy debate that Obama claims to want? Get a load of this:

The 2005 energy bill was described by Hillary Clinton as "Dick Cheyney's energy bill" and described by the left coaster blog as "a worthless piece of corporate welfare".

http://www.theleftcoaster.com/archives/004211.php

Obama voted FOR this bill, and McCain voted AGAINST this bill.

Obama was with Bush, McCain was not. Obama voted for corporate welfare, McCain did not.

How is that for a policy debate, dope.

Posted by: Razorback | September 9, 2008 4:07 PM | Report abuse

Razorback - If telling it like it is about those Wal-Mart clodhoppers makes someone unhappy, so be it! That inbred crowd of breeding and eating machines provides the best excuse I have ever heard of for a literacy test for voting. Before leaping to these sows defense, please, head down to your local Wal-Mart and check out some of these "babes". The notion that they have anything to do with this country makes one shudder. That some like minded sow like Palin will get them off their lumpy chocolate smeared couch to vote ought to frighten the devil out of everyone! They may succeed in electing Palin. What's next, though? Lifetime welfare for them and their brood of many fathered brats? Free Bon-Bons for life? 24-7 Soap's, and NASCAR races and "cage fighting" for the slobbering fools that compose the "males" of that crowd? Maybe government subsidized 50 caliber rifles for deer hunting? How about stripping U.S. citizenship from anyone "brown"? The crowd you hold up for public display and worship are the ill bred failures of life, the genetic dead ends that parasites like Dobson and the rest of the Fundimentalist crowd could not exist without, the brain dead cannon fodder that allow for the folly of war, the mob that storms a jail and hangs an innocent man, burns a woman at the stake because she is different, the brats that bully our brightest and best children in schools. These are your Wal-Mart moms or the broods or breeders of them. And you, with a straight face, can sit there and defend them, warn us about somehow offending these drooling oafs?

Posted by: mibrooks27 | September 9, 2008 4:06 PM | Report abuse

"“They are currently in U.S. prisons, incapacitated.”........but the towers still fell......a democrat response is litigation......

On 9/11 vow that no democrat will ever lead this nation."

----Ohh boy, where do I START?, I'll keep it simple since you obviously don't think much.

1. 9/11 - GW's watch 9 months of stark warnings followed by lies and deceptions.

2. Judicial Process = Moral high-ground

Other countries have fought terrorism SUCCESSFULLY as a JUDICIAL matter for much longer than we have, by treating it as a judicial matter you get the moral high ground and you don't embolden your enemies by validating them by declaring war on them.

I'm sorry, you are probably completely confused by now.

Posted by: JM | September 9, 2008 4:06 PM | Report abuse

Why the Heck was McCain against the GI Bill funding for what he SUPPOSEDLY cares about? He's voted against every bill to increase funding for what he claims to be concerned about. This man talks out of both sides of his mouth. HE HAS NEVER, repeat, NEVER, supported our American Military through his votes for funding. Double talker period. This man is a sham! He is a hoax and liar.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VS9rWU834LU

Posted by: Don't get to comfortable with you little convention bounce, Wingnuts! | September 9, 2008 4:06 PM | Report abuse

Some of you seem to have some type of "personal" issue with Obama--he didn't pick Hillary so I'll show him, his church, resume, etc. The truth is WIN or LOSE the election, Obama has already WON. He's always been the underdog regardless of what the polls say. He'll be a STAR for a while and make millions. Now, how will you be affected if McCain wins? That's what you should ask yourself.

Posted by: dg | September 9, 2008 4:05 PM | Report abuse

Razorback,

here's me typing while you call me names. You conservatives are much better at name-calling than governing, based on your swimming economy and good international reputation.

I'd rather you make a concerted PUBLIC effort to change your energy policy rather than giving billions of dollars to Pickens OR EXXON. But since you must be friends with Dick, perhaps you'd best stick with the oil, right?

Posted by: mw in canada | September 9, 2008 4:05 PM | Report abuse

In choosing the person best able to govern, personality is a consideration, this person needs to lead the country and the world. This person should be intelligent, able to grasp large and complex situations; Obama is widely recognized for this, McCain admits he doesn't understand the economy. They should be able to understand the world today, not be trying to catch up from yesterday; Obama understands the new world of the internet, McCain is just learning how to use a mouse. They should work for the better of all Americans, not just a few: Obama has proven, with his community service, the Lugar-Obama law to disarm nuclear proliferation, the Coburn-Obama law to give us federal spending transparency, the laws for health care, etc, that Obama works for the good of the American people, McCain's most esteemed economics advisor says that we are a nation of whiners.

This is an important elections. We cannot be snowballed the the Republican smokescreen they have created with Palin.

The issues are important!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2008 4:02 PM | Report abuse

Progressives for a Positive American Future - Unite (PaPAFU)

Hello all you progressives and Obama peeps! Let's forget about all the garbage we have been focused on the last week and refocus on the excitement of an Obama administration. Let's refocus on the positive energy that built Obama's campaign.

Remember energy independence in 10 years? Clean, green jobs that will help our environment, bring economic recovery, new investments in technology and energy independence from the middle east.

How about healthcare that everyone can afford? Remember - no $'s into Obama's campaign from big pharma or health insurance lobbyists. Guaranteed eligibility, expansion of SCHIP and a benefit package similar to that offered through Federal Employees Health Benefits Program - that's something McCain Palin can't touch that!

And my personal PaPAPU fave from his website - Zero to Five Plan: Obama's comprehensive "Zero to Five" plan will provide critical support to young children and their parents. Unlike other early childhood education plans, Obama's plan places key emphasis at early care and education for infants, which is essential for children to be ready to enter kindergarten. Obama will create Early Learning Challenge Grants to promote state "zero to five" efforts and help states move toward voluntary, universal pre-school.

Go to his website, look at the issues – find your personal PaPAFU-fave and spread it around!

Don't get dragged in the mud - that's going backwards - progressives unite behind Obama a vision for a more prosperous, cleaner, greener America!

Remember PaPAFU Loves you!

Posted by: Aaron PaPAFU | September 9, 2008 4:01 PM | Report abuse

The biggest surprise of this election may turn out to be the number of women who are prepared to cast "identity votes" and who are also indifferent to feminist orthodoxy on the issue of abortion.

Posted by: Douglas L. Barber | September 9, 2008 4:00 PM | Report abuse

Chris:

Let's get a grip on ourselves here - just a few weeks ago you were saying that this election is "all about Obama" and you were wondering how the Republicans were going to deal with that.

That this election is "all about Obama" is out the window.


McCain-Palin have won the personality portion of the competition - everyone is talking about Sarah and no one cares about Obama anymore. In a sense, Obama is a victim of his own campaign strategy.


Clearly, Obama is suffering from another underreported aspect:


OBAMA LOOKS LIKE A LIGHT-WEIGHT NEXT TO JOE BIDEN. The democratic party superdelegates, in their rush to make a Presidential choice motivated more by affirmative action than qualifications, have completely destroyed the democratic party's chances this year.


superdelegates.


The democratic party had two excellent candidates to choose from: Joe Biden and Chris Dodd - their contributions starved both for cash and the voters IGNORED ALL CONSIDERATION OF ACTUAL QUALIFICATIONS and picked Obama with Hillary second.


The democrats have only themselves to blame for fielding a weak candidate.


Actually Obama is a pathetic candidate - no experience in foreign policy - Obama has built a career on MAXING OUT EVERY AFFIRMATIVE ACTION PROGRAM HE COULD FIND UNTIL HE TURNED THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY DELEGATE SELECTION PROCESS INTO AN AFFIRMATIVE ACTION PROGRAM IN MICHIGAN AND FLORIDA.


The democratic party did it to themselves.


McCain is the stronger candidate - the people around him are brilliant - they put on an excellent convention which propelled McCain and Palin ahead in the polls by five points.


Obama's convention was horrible, it was a strain to watch the hillary-bill saga play out again.


How the Conventions are managed is important - McCain gets an A+++ and Obama gets a B- or C+.

Seriously Chris - McCain is the stronger candidate and he is extremely more qualified to be President - to vote for the other guy is to risk this nation's national security with some inexperienced affirmative-action guy who shouldn't even be in Washington.


Seriously Chris - this election is out of hand.


.

Posted by: 37th&OStreet | September 9, 2008 3:58 PM | Report abuse

Obama did not take my advice to select Hillary. It is the blunder of his life. If he can't even trust one of his party commrade, how could he be trusted by others and play real leadership role?

Posted by: God Father | September 9, 2008 3:57 PM | Report abuse

McCain is shaping up to be worse than Bush. He stands for nothing and constantly changes his views to suit his audience. Who knows, he will probably insist he never said any of the more war stuff. It would not surprise me. He is a fraud and an opportunist. He has used his military bona fides (which are questionable) and presented himself as a hero. I am more afraid of this man than of Bush and Cheney and that's saying a lot. He is the fear card.


WAKE UP, AMERICA!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nqtL-P8kzo

Posted by: orange crush | September 9, 2008 3:57 PM | Report abuse

eh dope, lets take it a step further.

Type slowly and repeat after me:

"I am glad that Obama's energy plan gives corporate welfare to billionaires like T. Boone Pickens and forces consumers to buy electricity from Pickens for 4 times the price that they are currently paying."

Posted by: Razorback | September 9, 2008 3:57 PM | Report abuse

Part of the reason America is in the hole it's in, is because too many voters care overly much about the insignificant aspects of a candidate's "personality".

I think we have proven over the last eight years that the guy you'd most like to go have a beer with does not qualify one to be president.

Same problem with the way the Media portrayed Gore as an uber-Nerd in 2000. Yes, he's a Nerd, but are you electing a president or a boyfriend?

Too many people are going to vote for the Palin/McCain ticket because yes, she's a 44-year-old woman who's pretty fine and who's not too hard to look at. But when the rest of your civil liberties are taken away, it won't matter.

Posted by: Grrrrr | September 9, 2008 3:57 PM | Report abuse

Democrats and other Obama supporters: don't worry about McCain or Palin. The election will be a landslide for Obama. Because of cell phones, you can wipe your butt with the poll data. It's garbage.

The silent majority will be sweeping in Obama, not GI John and Caribou Barbie!

Posted by: madman | September 9, 2008 3:55 PM | Report abuse


Food for thought


Don't dismiss the fact that Sarah Palin is Commander of the Alaska National Guard-- consider this.

Alaska is the first line of defense in our missile interceptor defense
system. The 49th Missile Defense Battalion of the Alaska National Guard is the unit that protects the entire nation from ballistic missile attacks. It's on permanent active duty, unlike other Guard units.

As governor of Alaska , Palin is briefed on highly classified military
issues, homeland security, and counterterrorism. Her exposure to classified material may rival even Biden's and certainly by far exceeds Obama's.

She's also the commander in chief of the Alaska State Defense Force (ASDF), a federally recognized militia incorporated into Homeland Security's counterterrorism plans.

Palin is privy to military and intelligence secrets that are vital to the
entire country's defense. Given Alaska 's proximity to Russia , she may have security clearances we don't even know about.

According to the Washington Post, she first met with McCain in February, but nobody ever found out. This is a woman used to keeping secrets.

She can be entrusted with our national security, because she already is.

AND, contrary to what many male chauvenists would believe to be impossible, Gov. Palin has been doing this successfully for 2 years and has never "Leaked" information for campaign funds as far as the bushel of liberal lawyers who have been sent to Alaska to hunt up information to put Palin in jail for life can prove..... "Z"

Posted by: JABBER | September 9, 2008 3:54 PM | Report abuse

Good Points about the Presidental "Personality" Contest. I like McCain and I like Obama, I appreciate that they have tried to keep a higher tone than 2004 but that seems to have deteriorated at least with other Party members lately.

Messages of Change and Hope sound good from Obama, until you realize he is just a Democrat and it will still be politics as usual. I was trying to overlook his policies on social issues and then got alarmed to hear plans of a Federal Edict over-riding State Laws on "Choice" and gay "marriage". I'm one of those independent voters that votes based on my opinion of policy and personal character. So they will have to fight it both ways.

Posted by: IndyRocker | September 9, 2008 3:54 PM | Report abuse

The Republicans are desperately defending Sarah Palen. She isn't allowed to defend herself.She's not allowed to speak to the press. They must keep telling her, let the men handle it, little lady. I can't believe this is what people call a maverick.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2008 3:53 PM | Report abuse

Yes, dope. If China "needs" clean technology as you claim, why does the New York Times report that China builds a new coal plant every 10 days which is large enough to power the city of San Diego?

Type slowly and repeat after me: "Barack Obama has the courage to make higher energy prices for the American consumer the centerpiece of his economic plan."

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2008 3:52 PM | Report abuse

poor Obama, palin' fast!

What are Chris Matthews, Keith Olbermann, and Eugene Robinson doing, allowing this to happen?

The guy's been non-stop campaigning six months after he became a freshman senator, and this two-term Mayor and two-year Governor is giving him a run for hi smoney! and the money stream is dryiing up! This has got to be a racist plot.

Hillary, help!!!

Posted by: Krishna | September 9, 2008 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Goodbye America!!! The once Great Nation is going down the Drain if this numb nut (McCain) gets in office, what the f#ck is this world coming to, and people will still vote for him, I dont get it America my own people f#cking this country up.
Why?...Why?!?!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2kyXN4ZVQg

Posted by: astral99 | September 9, 2008 3:51 PM | Report abuse

"Obama On The Losing End of Personality Contest"

well no wonder, Obama's an arrogant racist twit that is not even qualified to be POTUS. Obama cheated with the help of powerful$$$ secret allies. Obama is owned by these allies. I'm a Democrat and I can't stand Obama or his obnoxious followers. Oprah go fly a kite! I'm using my voting power to deliver Osama and his followers a knock out punch. McCain at least speaks with humility as did Clinton. Osama thinks he is god.

Posted by: Pat | September 9, 2008 3:50 PM | Report abuse

Genericrepub _ Read your post and *everything* you post in purely an invention. First off, health care in this country doesn’t even rate among the top 20 world wide for delivery or quality. Secondly, people who live in countries with managed care (like Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Iceland, France, Germany, etc.) **LOVE** it! It is cheaper and far far far better than the corrupt mishmash of lousy service and over priced witch doctoring we have here. Have you even ever been out of the U.S.? Please, before uttering such patent nonsense ever again, cash in those empty beer cans that compose the bulk of your retirement savings and go visit Denmark for a month.

As for taxes and other issues you blather about - Obama proposes to raise taxes on those making more than $250,000 a year and *lower* them on people making less than $150,000 a year! Your example of the farm family and “death taxes”, however, is just rich! Inheritance taxes have never affected assets below 1 million dollars. That family farm would remain the family farm. What they were designed to hit, however, we assets wayyyyy beyond that that the filth rich have protected over the years, by transferring them to family members. The con job of calling them “death taxes” is so bogus and so wrong and so dishonest that only a complete moron would buy into it….but, evidently, that would include you! Last year, those “death taxes” you whine about, allowed the wealthiest 0.1% of the population to dodge paying close to 1 trillion dollars in taxes, taxes that you had to make up for. Happy? Obama has stated repeatedly that he is for building more nuclear power plants. If you has listen to his nominating speech you might heard that….Evidently, though, you get your news filtered through your tin foil hat.

Posted by: mibrooks27 | September 9, 2008 3:50 PM | Report abuse

"Her kids look wonderful, well adjusted and happy."
NotLikeHillary
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Yeah, take a look and tell me if you think that getting knocked-up and drinking hard booze (possibly while pregnant) and shooting off guns (real good combination) are the "well-adjusted" family values the Christian right want to teach.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0us4Xah-40

I am a liberal, I have two daughters, neither of which are pregnant because they have been taught how to be responsible. Oh, they don't drink or take drugs either, they actually enjoy and excel in school and their friends are much the same. They believe in kindness and forgiveness and in helping others. But they don't go around preaching extreme views to others, or tell others what they can or shouldn't do. MY children are "well-adjusted" as are many others.

One of the Palin parents has got to get their kids under control because it is obvious they are being neglected or not watched..

Posted by: JR | September 9, 2008 3:50 PM | Report abuse

The mentally ill racists are still here. What a surprise.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2008 3:48 PM | Report abuse

Dear: NotLike Hilary

I'm smelling what your cooking. Your right there a millions of people just like her but I want someone better than average helping to run the country. Don't we deserve "A" over a "C"? She falls short so far for me and my family. How can we hear what she is exceptional at when she won't talk to the media to help us make a infromed choice.
There is something off about the whole thing.
Good luck on your choice, I hope it is an informed and well thought out one.

Posted by: el buzz | September 9, 2008 3:48 PM | Report abuse

razorback,

Dope, eh?

two separate issues:

1) China and India laugh all the way to the bank when Republican administrations start wars of choice and expansion choosing fund them on credit, then further compound their problems by handing out tax breaks to wealthy Americans. all this balloons the deficit and diminishes America's currency and economic influence in the world. Republican policies exploit the fears of working class Americans and then shift the economic burdens from those most able to shoulder them to those least able to shoulder them. this is the same morally dubious action taken in countries like China and India, but they've got a massive underclass to slave and work for nothing. Americans just borrow. now you've lost your economic influence AND your moral authority. hence the laughter when you try to lecture them or borrow from them

2) short-sightedness and narcissism: China and India cannot indefinably run on the same dirty economy the US has run on for the last hundred years - most of its populations are near coastal areas. it will need clean technology. The US can either develop it and sell it to them, or it can wait and get beat by a more efficient, centralized economic model.

I think that Obama HAS made this quite clear, unlike ANY republican administration beginning with Regan: you can pay now or pay more later. your choice.

Posted by: mw in canada | September 9, 2008 3:47 PM | Report abuse

I'm not into polls, especially national polls. I would be concerned if certain swing states had shown over a month of polling had changed from Obama to McCain.

I don't think that sentiment has changed. Most people believe America is on the wrong track. In terms of getting America back on track, I don't believe most Americans think the Republican Party and specifically, McCain and Palin, will put America back on the right track.

Posted by: Obama-Junkie | September 9, 2008 3:46 PM | Report abuse

Let's just face it. Republicans aren't that bright. They are so self-centered that they actually want someone just like them in the office. I don't understand why they don't listen and apparently love to be lied to.

Posted by: HeyThere | September 9, 2008 3:46 PM | Report abuse

WOO HOO

YEAH

COODO'S

A good picture of Obama.

THANK YOU

Now for some truthiness to correct your article.

McCain's popularity didn't start until a week ago, not two months ago.

Those who will vote based on personality shouldn't be allowed to vote.

I propose a Constitutional Amendment: Voting Rights. Each citizen 18+ must pass an emotional maturity test in order to be qualified to vote as well as pass a "no religious bias" test.

Leadership requires judgement, intelligence, and a strong enough ego to allow others the respect of their opinions.

We are not electing the President of Student Council.

We are electing the leaders of The Republic of the United States.

THANK YOU

THANK YOU

Oh....what's that....a glimmer of hope. Hope the Post is a balanced source of news.

Posted by: there is no anonymous anymore | September 9, 2008 3:46 PM | Report abuse

Can Obama win back Wal-Mart Moms???

So asked a liberal from Time magazine.

http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1839930,00.html

Bashing Wal Mart and bashing Moms is a sure fire way NOT to win back Wal Mart Moms. Keep at it you leftist moon bats, you are ignorantly playing into Karl Rove's hands by bashing Sarah Palin. I think its funny to watch.

Posted by: Razorback | September 9, 2008 3:46 PM | Report abuse

It's the DC insiders like you, Cilizza that have contributed toward making our elections much like our TV culture -- all about nothing.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2008 3:46 PM | Report abuse

War hero and POW are not the same thing. Witness the attacks against Kerry. Hypocrites.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2008 3:44 PM | Report abuse

I'm thinking about changing my mind about who to vote for in this election. Instead of voting for change, I'm thinking I haven't quite had enough yet, so I think I want some MORE.

Let's elect McCain/Palin so we have more, more, more. I mean, I've been having so much fun these last eight years, I'm hesitant about giving that up!

I think that we should have more of the economic policies that have worked out so well. This "trickle-down" idea seems like maybe someday it might work. I think we should give it a bit more time.

I think that my husband not getting a raise in 4 years is OK. I don't mind that food prices, energy prices, insurance rates, etc., have risen exponentially.

I mean, I'm cool with the idea that our health insurance, that used to be paid for by the company now costs us over $400.00 a month out of our paycheck. Why should that be a problem? That a doctor visit is $50.00 and my medications cost me over $100.00 a month...what's the big deal?

So what if I lost my Customer Service job because it was "outsourced" overseas? Our customers didn't need to actually solve their problems anyway, so why would it matter that their calls are answered by someone who cannot speak English? Hey, the CEO of my old company just wrote himself a big bonus for reducing costs! This is good, people! Don't you get that?

I think it's great that a loaf of bread costs nearly as much as the minimum wage. OK, I exaggerate and there's no place for that. I'll admit, you can actually buy two loaves of bread if you work for an hour at minimum wage.

I also think that we need to give the Republicans a little more time to deal with the energy problem. Let's not confuse the issue by focusing on how they've fought against those crazy alternative energy wackos. I mean, they get it now...now that their constituents are screaming bloody murder about gas prices!

Their plan is great! Stick with oil! Drill, drill, drill. I mean it's so new and different, it just might work!

And what about education? I think their idea of paying people our tax dollars to send their kids to private schools is excellent. This will work really well, especially in inner cities and poor rural areas that don't have private/charter schools. Don't forget that the bulk of Republican voters are less educated than Democratic voters. This keeps their voting population numbers right where they need them.

As for taxes, I think that it's working out really well just the way it is. Let's have the middle class pay all the taxes for everything. That should take what's leftover after basic living expenses and keep them in their place. Those top 1% earners have lifestyles to support for crying out loud.

And why should we tax anybody at all anyway. Taxes are EVIL. Why should we pay for the war in Iraq? Why should we pay for the country's infrastructure? Are you people crazy?

No. I just haven't had enough yet.

The Supreme Court isn't all one sided yet.

I realize I haven't even touched on the war in Iraq, the war in Afghanistan, the war on terror, torture, our transparent administration or anything superfluous like that. But why bother. They're all ducky, too.

Posted by: dealingwithfacts | September 9, 2008 3:43 PM | Report abuse

Ladies and Gentlemen, allow me to introduce to you, the team that gave you 8 miserable years of Bush/Cheney:
The CONSERVATIVE MEDIA

I mean really guys, you're not even trying to hide it this time. Obama was up in the polls by 5 to 10 points every day until today. During those months I saw ZERO stories champoining his momentum, how his campaign is on the right track, how the democrats are energized, etc.

McSame/Failin' get the expected bump from their Liars Convention, and that's the top story for every news outlet!?! WTF?

The conservative media is doing everything it can to help the old man and ice queen look like they have a chance.

ENOUGH!

Obama/Biden '08 and '12

Posted by: Conservative Media at it Again | September 9, 2008 3:42 PM | Report abuse

Even though the economy is the number one issue in regards to most Americans, the media shapes our perception. For instance, the media is not asking the right questions in regards to Iraq. Simply question to all the candidates, Pres. & VP, should America has permanent bases or a permanent military presence in Iraq?

I already know that Obama & Biden do not think so. Based on media reports, the Iraqi leader does not think so. What will McCain and Palin say?

Posted by: Obama-Junkie | September 9, 2008 3:41 PM | Report abuse

Dijetlo - I read the Daily Kos where more than one blog stated as fact that Palin's last child was actually her daughter's.

I don't think anyone should doubt that attacks come with the territory in politics. But when you misrepresent facts that patently - both you and Kos - you lose all credibility.

Posted by: AlibiFarmer | September 9, 2008 3:40 PM | Report abuse

Democrats are not attacking Sarah Palen said Dijetlo as he attacked Sahah Palen.

Posted by: Razorback | September 9, 2008 3:40 PM | Report abuse

Whew! What a decision. Vote for pair comprised of a socialist steeped in black liberation theology who is a product of the crooked political machine of Chicago and a non-stop gaff machine who has been wrong on every single foreign policy decision in the last 35 years. Or vote for a pair comprised of a war hero who has a lengthy bipartisan track record and a reform governor who has gone after crooked members of her own party. This is, admittedly, a very hard choice but I’m betting the majority of Americas will go for the team headed by the war hero – by a landslide.

Posted by: NavyGunner | September 9, 2008 3:40 PM | Report abuse

mw in canada, like every good dope, you have just made MY point.

First, you said India and China are laughing all the way to the bank. Now you say the US is short sighted for not sacrificing economically for the rest of the world, like India and China.

Now you say I expect more from India and China than from myself, and previously you suggested Bush was in error for sacrificing our interests to those in India and China.

Again I repeat that I wish Obama were honest enough to stand up and say that he is proposing (like you) that American consumers sacrifice and pay more for energy to benefit India and China.

Contradicting yourself is what a moron does, mdub.

Posted by: Razorback | September 9, 2008 3:38 PM | Report abuse

Not divisive?! Palen??? Well adjusted kids? Based on what? Pure fantasy.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2008 3:37 PM | Report abuse

You're going to be in huge shock when Colorado goes Democrat in this election. And believe me, we are. The polls say we are still undecided, not so.

Posted by: Mark | September 9, 2008 3:33 PM | Report abuse

Within minutes of the her being announced as the VP pick, the cry went up from the Republicans...
" They are attacking her!!!"
I guess they missed her acceptance speech where she attacked them.
The next iteration...
" They are attacking her pregnant daughter..."
No, they aren't. The only people I've heard mention her pregnant minor child are Republicans and people who are making the argument that "abstinence only" education is an ineffective policy when it comes to preventing teen pregnancy. Her daughter is a valid example of this.
Republicans fall into two groups, the perpetrators and the victims. The perpetrators make promises that they'll never keep and the victims just keep falling for it.
George Bush promised you guys he'd overturn Roe V Wade, and of course he hasn't done anything like that. He can't because he knows the day they overturn Roe, the Republicans have won their last national election. That doesn't stop McSame from making the same promise, and you simple minded clowns falling for it again. They don't want to overturn Roe, it's the only thing that keeps them in the game (that and the retrograde rights fixation on it), they just want another opportunity to rape us for the next four years, same as the last guy they propped up in that spot. He was an multi substance abusing serial liar, but you guys just couldn't wait to vote for him cause he said the right words (when the cameras weren't around.).
You people need to smarten up, you keep foisting these rump clowns on the rest of us because you hold out the irrational hope that one day, some day, they will give you the thing you most desire. They haven't and they wont, and that's all there is too it.

Posted by: Dijetlo | September 9, 2008 3:33 PM | Report abuse

edwcorey, I will keep being a pig if you keep posting ignorant statements that detract from Obama's message and help McCain. Keep taking the bait all the way to November.

Posted by: Razorback | September 9, 2008 3:30 PM | Report abuse

You guys are all right about Sarah Palin. Sarah Palin is not like Hilary. She's a mother of five. Her kids look wonderful, well adjusted and happy. She's a succesful woman whose made it on her own without a powerful husband or other backer. She's not bitter or devisive in the way Hillary is. She's stood up to a male dominated political system and won, time and time again. She will not play the martyr card. She's actually led reform, and won. She's nothing like Hillary but she's a whole lot like millions of other women in this country, raising a family, providing for her family, engaged in a career. That's the real deal. Lots of women, whether Clinton supports or not, relate to that.

Posted by: NotLike Hilary | September 9, 2008 3:30 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin is just creepy. I don't get what everyone is so interested in. She talks and my ears bleed. Thank goodness the remote has a mute buttom.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2008 3:30 PM | Report abuse

BigDaddy08 and James,

Thank you for your kind words regarding my post. I am rarely moved to put my feelings into words in the 'blogosphere,' but what McCain/Palin plan to do to this country cannot be ignored.
They will destroy everything America stands for, and make it an extremely difficult country for our (middle class) children to succeed in.

Personally, I never thought I'd vote for a Democrat because I usually felt the better "person" was running on the other side(Bush '04 the exception, I didn't vote for anybody that round).

But now, after that disgusting RNC convention last week, I am fully committed to Obama/Biden. They are the role models this country needs. When I look at my 2 young boys, I know I cannot let them down. I will vote Obama/Biden this year.

Posted by: Republicans or "Republicans" | September 9, 2008 3:29 PM | Report abuse

zaney8 wrote:
"I've spent time trying to figure out what is causing the extreme anger toward Palin, the attempts to descredit her daughter Bristol, and the demands from stupid little newsmen that she MUST be vetted by them to be acceptable."

The anger is not actually towards Palin, who is what she is.
It is towards a GOP machinery which says to itself:
"We are not doing at all well. The only thing which can save us now is if we do something completely crazy. Like nominate some pretty barracuda from Alaska."
That attitude insults our intelligence and assumes we don't care if we have two planks of wood for Vice President, just so long as they are good-looking planks.
Good-looking Republican planks.

Posted by: wardropper | September 9, 2008 3:29 PM | Report abuse

Sen. McCain has had 25 years to 'shake up Washington.' Many of those years with a Republican president; many with a Republican president AND a Republican Congress. He either lacks skill or will.
Either way, not a record to run on.

Posted by: belle | September 9, 2008 3:29 PM | Report abuse

"He has his own powerful personal story -- the son of a mixed race parents, educated at Ivy League institutions, a community organizer etc..."

It may sound like a powerful personal story to a horny little robot squatting at a keyboard in a cramped cubicle in the bowels of the Washington Post.

Is sounds like socialism and affirmative action to the rest of us.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2008 3:28 PM | Report abuse

Razorback,

feel the water lapping at your ankles yet?

you may be right. Stereotypes of Americans may be, in the end, correct: your self absorption and narcissism may keep you from looking beyond next week. As a nation you may be so afraid of sacrificing for the common good because of your fear of 'socialism' that you're willing to all drown in your individualism.

We all just hoped for better from you - you certainly go around the world expecting more from us than you do from yourselves.

Posted by: mw in canada | September 9, 2008 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Watching Barack Obama complain about media attention to personality must make every true Hillary partisan laugh out loud.

When you base your whole campaign on being the "flavor of the month" media darling, you better make sure you are the flavor of the month in September, October and November.

This is the risk you take when you try to be "cool". Cool comes and goes. You didn't b**** when it came, so quit b****ing that it went.

Posted by: Razorback | September 9, 2008 3:27 PM | Report abuse

"Nutty leftist wingbats do not want to talk about the issues, they want to talk about the next round of partisan "criminal" investigations. By the time you get to vote for Obama, you will have destroyed him. Great work."

Posted by: Razorback

"Razorback"--that's a pig, right? Synonymous with Republican diehard.

Posted by: edwcorey | September 9, 2008 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Nova seems to think Obama can coast to victory on dissatisfaction. I doubt he can. One of the wisest political pundits used to say, 'You can't beat sumptin with nuttin'. When his rock star status was lampooned, his response seems to be, 'I'm rubber and you're glue'.

I doubt that will carry him across the finish line. He should be spending his money on ads with HIS face and voice - not his opponents.

Posted by: AlibiFarmer | September 9, 2008 3:26 PM | Report abuse

Obama supporters: the worst mistake you can make is thinking that everyone in the country shares your views. Do that, and you'll lose. Clearly, this is a divided electorate, so you'd better start convincing undecided voters that your candidate is the right choice, because those undecideds are clearly drifting in McCain's direction at this time. Filling up these comment sections of the Post with all the mud slinging at McCain/Palin isn't going to win the election, folks.

Posted by: Hillaryclinton | September 9, 2008 3:26 PM | Report abuse

I believe you are mistaken Mr Cizilla, Barrack Obama hasn't lost anythning as of yet.

We have witnessed 11 days of frenzy and a Republican convention where the memories that will reverberate is a group of well heeled Republicans shouted "Drill, Baby, Drill" and a 44 year old Governor of an isolated rural state,awash in corruption, describes herself as a "Pit Bull with lipstick", appears before the adoring crowd, after being chosen by a 72 year old 4 time cancer survivor, to be, next in line for the Presidency.
Today we find that the Reformer Palin has trouble distinguishing her home from a Hotel, since she has received travel per deims for living at home. (in 1998 that might have been impeachable in DC)
Then she is hidden from personal scrutiny until her handlers can find someone "deferential" enough to interview her.

This is the USA and no Presidential candidate has ever demended "deference" before and Rick Davis should know better and be shamed, but shame isn't something Republicans have until they are found guilty or enter a plea. (See Ted Stevens R-Alaska for more info)

This Election 2008 has many many days to go, and the halo over Mrs Palin is dimming by the nanosecond while her protectors attempt to bring her up to speed.

She may be one of the most intelligent people on the face of the earth, but, it is obvious from her Campaign's point of view she isn't.

There are 8 weeks.

The hiding cannot continue without even the least curious voter wondering why.

Posted by: mike coleman | September 9, 2008 3:25 PM | Report abuse

Here's a scoop for the "personality-filled" media. Keep an eye on John McCain. He should be secretly scheduling his next doctor's appointment within the next 6 weeks.

Posted by: Obama-Junkie | September 9, 2008 3:25 PM | Report abuse

I think on issues Obama gets swamped as well. Oil drilling and nuclear power vs. let's save the whales and stop driving SUV's. Taxes. Should people with a family farm or a small family business and a home pay estate taxes when their parents die. Under the Obama rhetoric, they will because they're wealthy. Let's talk about health care. Most people who have managed care hate it. But now Obama wants us all to be required to have it. Iraq, Obama wants us to pull out now that we have screwed up the country and leave it in even a bigger mess. McCain wants to get it stable enough that the Iraqui's can run it themselves. The other word for that is rationing. When people see the issues, they'll run to McCain.

Posted by: genericrepub | September 9, 2008 3:24 PM | Report abuse

Shelia Bateman can't understand why women who supported hillary could possibly vote for mccain-palin.

Shelia, your error is to assume everyone that voted for Hillary is a leftist moonbat. They arn't. You can think they are stupid if you want, but just keep joining with Obama in calling them stupid and see who they wind up voting for.

Posted by: Razorback | September 9, 2008 3:22 PM | Report abuse

Observer ant hit the nail right on the head. The majority of Americans will and have believed the most asinine statements presented as fact about candidates and policies for a long time now. Guaranteed, that the majority of Americans (Dem/Repub) based on some pundits comments rather than they liked the candidates stance or proposals of policies.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2008 3:22 PM | Report abuse

Let's just wait for the debates and see how Palen's mimicked, memorized talking points from Leiberman on foreign policy work. She's going to need an incredible memory, because working knowledge on world issues is not her strong suit. I do think she got the female dog with lipstick part right though. Score one point for Palen.
No strong suit, no pantsuit, no Palen.

Posted by: Mary | September 9, 2008 3:21 PM | Report abuse

I will support Barack Obama all the way! We will fight the war of hatred until the end.

Posted by: cupoftee | September 9, 2008 3:20 PM | Report abuse

The McCain campaign has to make this a "personality contest", a glorified junior high school popularity election. If even the doopy "Wal-Mart Moms" and assorted red neck bed wetters and pseudo-patriots that think like them had a clue about what Palin and McCain stands for, they would be horrified. So the image is everything -- never mind that McCain will trade your job to India or China for their support of some bogus foreign policy initiative, never mind that health care for you and your family will disappear during the McCain Presidentcy, never mind that the economy will tank, that their inbred brats will become cannon fodder in some new insane adventure, never mind that they can never hope to get Palin's designer sunglasses nor her "do". These blithering idiots, these inbred fools for whom a classic is a month old issue of Soap Opera Digest, these empty headed proof of Darwin's law, will commit suicide and vote for a candidate based on "style" and "personality". And never mind that Palin is a corrupt dog, in the line of Bush-Cheney, someone who has accepted bribes, submitted for and was paid for "work" hours on her government job when she was either at home or roaming some mall with her brood, never mind that every speech she gives provides a litany of lies, half truths, and utter rubbish, never mind that she is a religious nutcase along the lines of the FLDS crowd, never mind any of that, because she has "style". Excuse me, I need to upchuck.

, those doopy soap opera queens who pop out a new baby every year from age 18 to 24 uintil they get so fat that no man will have anuthing to do with them

Posted by: mibrooks27 | September 9, 2008 3:19 PM | Report abuse

mw in canada,

The only way to "remake" the energy economy is to tell US consumers that they have to pay more for energy when cheaper alternatives are available. I wish Obama would admit what you just admitted. Then McCain would be up 15 in the polls instead of only 5.

You liberals are lying when you promise both lower energy prices and "alternative energy" mandates. If "alternative energy" was cheaper, you wouldn't need to government to tell consumers that they had to buy it.

Keep on advocating higher energy prices mw. That is a sure political winner.

Posted by: Razorback | September 9, 2008 3:19 PM | Report abuse

"From the people that brought you 8 years of George "I'd like to have a beer with him" Bush, here comes Sarah "Crazy right-wing but has two X chromosomes" Palin. I'm looking forward to another half-decade of economic misery."

Posted by: ManUnitdFan

Agreed. And what's really whacked out about it is, Bush is an alcoholic. So all those folks who wanted to have a beer with him must be quite stupid. Palin even scares Ed Koch, the original LIEberman, who went from Democratic mayor of New York to working for W in 1984. (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/sns-ap-koch-obama,0,2707861.story). And Koch is no shrinking violet, politically speaking.

Posted by: edwcorey | September 9, 2008 3:17 PM | Report abuse

i can't understand why women whosupported hillary could possibly vote for mccain-palin. she is against everything those women stood for. are they crazy or what? i am forced to conclude they are in this are to vote for mccain-who said "this why chelsea clinton is so ugly because janet reno is her father!. haha. i am from arizona and have never voted for mccain ever. he has called his own wife a filthy name, and has flipped flopped at least 74 times.

Posted by: sheila bateman | September 9, 2008 3:16 PM | Report abuse

"[Obama] has his own powerful personal story -- the son of a mixed race parents, educated at Ivy League institutions, a community organizer etc." Your kidding right? This is so lame I can't beleive I'm reading it. This story is nice but its weak sauce my friends. Weak sauce. If you really think this, well, time for the panic to be setting in.

Posted by: TheShipIsSinking | September 9, 2008 3:16 PM | Report abuse

Chris wrong, again. Senator McCain hasn't simply pulled "even" in "some" national polls, he has pulled ahead.

Perhaps you should expand your reference information to sources that don't include your employer. If you do you will find that the truth is substantially different than the "news" you report.

Senator Obama's decline in the polls isn't based on losing on the issue of personality, he is fact solely a cult-of-personality political figure. By definition personality is his only marketable feature. If in fact he has lost the battle of "personality" then I would suggest you should get accustomed to the idea of a McCain/Palin Administration.

While I agree a presidential campaign should focus much of its rhetoric on issues, I would submit that having Obama abandon his only selling point (himself) in favor an issue based program is brilliant if you are a Republican stategist.

You see, once his personality is removed there is no substance. If you believe that Obama can win forwarding the tired old tax and spend, big government, liberal pap you are happily (in my case) mistaken.

So, please keep encouraging Obama/Biden to get specific on the issues because the more specific they get the further they will fall in the polls.

Posted by: spiccirillo | September 9, 2008 3:15 PM | Report abuse

wappinne,
You wrote: “In contrast, Obama has stayed true to who he is. He hasn't changed his positions. He called for a principled campaign and has stuck to that -- no slandering his opponents. He called for a well organized campaign with no drama and that's what his campaign produced.”
What Obama have you been following? Obama decline the offer to have town hall meetings with McCain and why because he was killing McCain.
On campaign finance reform, Obama said the system was not broken as of February 2008, but once his rich donors and lawyers started giving more Obama realized that the system was broken. He had to forego spending limits because that’s the American way.
On taxes, Obama has changed his tune again listen to him on Stephlgoosu and the WSJ has an article of him changing his opinion on taxes several times.
On Iraq, he was against the surge until it appears to be working and now well he knew it would work.
On Energy, he was against drilling until gas got to $4 a gallon and he started losing support, but now he is for limited drilling.
The list could go on and on. I would say that McCain has changed his tune on a number of different issues, but to be as naïve to say Obama has remained true to who he is laughable. However, I will readily admit that both McCain and Obama have remained true to being politicians.

Posted by: sltiowa | September 9, 2008 3:14 PM | Report abuse

Poll shows big shift to McCain among white women

Tue Sep 9, 2008 9:20am

WASHINGTON - Republican presidential candidate John McCain has gained huge support among white women since naming Sarah Palin as his running mate and now leads Democrat Barack Obama among those voters, according to a survey published on Tuesday.

The Washington Post/ABC News poll found that much of McCain's surge in the polls since the Republican National Convention is attributable to the shift in support among white women.

The race for the White House is now a virtual tie, with Obama at 47 percent support of registered voters and McCain at 46 percent, the poll found.

Before the Democratic National Convention in late August, Obama held an 8 percentage point lead among white women voters, 50 percent to 42 percent, but after the Republican convention in early September, McCain was ahead by 12 points among white women, 53 percent to 41 percent, the poll found.

Asked about the findings during a briefing on Monday before the poll was published, Obama campaign manager David Plouffe told a Washington Post reporter, "Well, your poll is wrong."


LOL!

"Well, your poll is wrong."

The Obama cult is renowned for snappy comebacks..

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2008 3:14 PM | Report abuse

Obama said last night that he puts his trust in the good judgment of the american people, when asked about a more aggressive pushback of the lies and misrepresentations that have become par-for-the-course in republican election campaigns. Seems that republican campaign officials are addicted to the fact if you repeat a lie enough, people will believe it. It's worked vey nicely for them that way.

That certainly would be true if there was no serious rebuttals of those lies and misrepresentations by the other party.

Maybe allowing voters to make up their own minds works well if it's 1940, 1950 or 1960, but I hate to break it to democrats, this isn't Kansas anymore, to be honest, it's not even the USA anymore.

In a world of one-second sound bytes, the ignorant masses only need to hear for 1 minute, commentary from the likes of a Limbaugh or Hannity for them to form an opinion that could never be corrected.

It's noble to believe that the american people are smarter than what they are, but they are not. Eight years of GW Bush is proof enough to make the point. But believeing in the good faith of the american people, without aggresively setting the record straight, something republicans simply cannot do (there are no great republican accomplishments over the last 10 years, not a single one) ...is as good as saying, Dems lose

Posted by: observer ant | September 9, 2008 3:12 PM | Report abuse

AlibiFarmer asked:
If Obama really wants this election to be about issues, why are all his ads devoted solely to linking McCain to Bush?

Guess what, that's an issue ad! The issue is whether you want four more years of the Bush policies that have gotten us in the mess that we are in.

Posted by: NoVA | September 9, 2008 3:10 PM | Report abuse

Well, first thing's first: if Americans respond more to personality-based attacks than actual policy differences, what does that say about us as a country? Nothing good, that's for sure.

Secondly, if this race is based on personality alone, let me think about which ticket I'd rather go for: the grumpy guy who would probably yell at me to get off his lawn and comes across as smarmy and condescending when he's "being nice" plus the Alaskan version of Rachel McAdams' character from "Mean Girls" or the friendly, smiling, occasionally goofy guy who clearly adores his family and strikes me as someone I'd like to have lunch with plus the other friendly, smiling, occasionally goofy guy who clearly adores his family and strikes me as someone I'd like to have lunch with?

Well, if I were trying to cast a dysfunctional sitcom, I'd vote for the McCain-Palin ticket. But since this exercise is based on what I'd do in real life, I'm gonna stick with the nice guys.

Obama/Biden '08.

Posted by: ASinMoCo | September 9, 2008 3:09 PM | Report abuse

Razorback,

I'm sure Jesus will save you as the waters rise and your crops fail. You in the US have the chance and the means to lead the world in remaking the energy economy and you're more concerned about pouring cheep gas in to your Hummer.

Learn to swim.

Posted by: mw in canada | September 9, 2008 3:08 PM | Report abuse

Some personalities we have here.

Palin thinks the war in Iraq is a mission from God!

Her AOG pastor's got her believing that the "end times" are here, and that Alaska's a holy refuge from Armageddon.

The Republican base thinks she's THE ONE, their political messiah to help them take over the world for the Assembly of God.

Take a cue from Obama and look at where she wants to take the country. If you can really look at Palin and still want her anywhere near the White House, God must be telling you to take over the world, too.

Posted by: Ken in Dallas | September 9, 2008 3:07 PM | Report abuse

Dead on-
The Dems will lose the race or it will at least be too close for comfort if we play personal attacks/personality. They have us much ammunition as we do. Barak's resume IS paper thin, he DOES have some unfortunate associations, the rhetoric DOESN'T match the actions- however

If this becomes a referendum on policy- we win! and not only do we win but our agenda wins. In 92 Clinton won on a poorly defined agenda and then had no power to drive the agenda through. The first 9 months of Bush, after his vacuous campaign- was free floating with nothing getting done (9/11 allowed them to drive through an agenda despite lack of popular support). Reagan, unfortunately, won on an agenda and was able to drive it through because the mandate was not only for him- it was for a series of policies.

Barak and the Dems must not play tit-for-tat. Dismiss the criticisms. Link McCain-Palin to the policies on their platform, the policies they support. People don't actually want a anti-choice, tax-breaks to the wealthy only, environmentally disasterous, everyone-on-their own healthcare administration. We win on issues. Why don'e we talk about them- and not in vague "hope" speeches- a real agenda. The one thing that Bill learned from his first 2 years in office was that the American people ARE smart enough to recognize what policies are good for them- if they are given that choice rather than the war hero vs. the community activist/law professor.

Leon

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2008 3:06 PM | Report abuse

This is the funniest thing I have read this political season. Obama is going to benefit from a debate of the issues!

The entire Obama Campaign and the Deval Patrick Campaign before that are based on the now famous "JUST WORDS" speech.

Now, you want Obama to run on issues. This should be fun!

Posted by: pk | September 9, 2008 3:06 PM | Report abuse

By the time Biden and the other leftist idiots figure out how dumb it is for them to keep "hitting" Sarah Palin, its going to be too late.

Posted by: Razorback | September 9, 2008 3:05 PM | Report abuse

You're right Debra. Palen will never have to stop and think. Her script and talking points will always be provided for.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2008 3:05 PM | Report abuse

Women: *Please* Email this to 5 women that you know:


From:
Head of State
http://tinyurl.com/65qxee

Sunday, September 07, 2008

10 Ways in Which Sarah Palin Is *Exactly* Like George W. Bush

1) Like Bush, she is completely against a woman's right to choose (in fact, she exceeds Bush in that she is against a woman's right to choose even in cases of rape or incest;

2) Like Bush, she opposes stem cell research to prevent fatal diseases in men, women and children;

3) Like Bush, supports the teaching of Creationism alongside Evolution in public schools;

4) Like Bush, does not believe that Global Warming is man made;

5) Like Bush, has supported abstinence-only sex education methods that have proven ineffective;

6) Like Bush, has virtually no foreign policy experience prior to running for national office--(in Palin's case, despite a 72-year old, chronically ill running mate)

7) Like Bush, has engaged in conduct that has resulted in current government investigation of her actions;

8) Like Bush, has made statements which indicate lack of knowledge of basic elements of the office they are running for (Palin, July 2008: "What exactly does the Vice President do everyday?");

9) Like Bush, has been sequestered to prevent her being asked questions that she has not yet been prepared to answer;

10) Like Bush, talks like a reformer--yet in her actions (i.e., relying on lobbying, supporting the Bridge to Nowhere before she was against it) acts in the most typical, all-too-familiar fashion.


H/T: On The Issues

Cite:
Head of State
http://tinyurl.com/65qxee

Posted by: Cara Prado | September 9, 2008 3:04 PM | Report abuse

What is this, Chris? F**king high school?!?!?

Why in blazes would I think some redneck hockey mom who went to 6 colleges in 6 years is ahead of Obama in "personality"? WTF? She almost bankrupt the small Alaskan town she was mayor of. How the hell do you do that?

And McCain? I heard he was a POW. Like FIFTY YEARS AGO. I sure hate to see him have a bad day at the White House. Could be disastrous for all of us.

Incoming!

Alaska First!

Vote for reality. Obama-Biden '08.

Posted by: tony the pitiful copywriter | September 9, 2008 3:03 PM | Report abuse

You know that Obama isn't scripted by the number of times he stops mid sentence with Umm....ummm.....ummm...you know..... You can barely follow his train of thought.

Posted by: Debra | September 9, 2008 3:02 PM | Report abuse

Let's home you are wrong. I don't see how any working class American can ignore the issues.

Posted by: Ward6ForNow | September 9, 2008 3:01 PM | Report abuse

It's striking how the media picks up a theme they can get their minds around and toys with it. Note the key words, "Obama lost" the battle. The battle, in other words, for the best media spin on who's winning the battle. Don't be fooled by the legions of dweebs like this guy. What really matters is reality and the attempt to contain Obama in a rightward box will fail. McCain as winning personality? Oh sure, yeah, the guy who makes cracks about Chelsea Clinton being so ugly because her parents are Hillary and Janet Reno. No, Obama is likable but more importantly, the right wing has driven us into a deep ditch and it will take a lot to get us out. The right wing wants a stable demon--tax, spend, coddling, soft--but their work is complicated by their own ruinations, making their claim to responsible government and "reform" of their own mess pathetic.

Posted by: Plutonium57 | September 9, 2008 3:00 PM | Report abuse

Why don't we debate the economy:

"WASHINGTON — Democrat Barack Obama says he would delay rescinding President Bush's tax cuts on wealthy Americans if he becomes the next president and the economy is in a recession, suggesting such an increase would further hurt the economy."

Didn't Obama try to say that these Bush tax cuts were a problem for the economy? And now they cannot be recinded because they would hurt the econonmy? If the Bush tax cuts were for the rich, then taxing the rich must hurt the econonmy. So that is what Obama really thinks. Maybe some of you libs can help explain why taxing the rich hurts the economy.

Posted by: Razorback | September 9, 2008 2:59 PM | Report abuse

Biden hit Palin today- saying that she did not support stem cell research- well that was a given considering stem cells come from aborted fetuses. Duhhhhh. I wonder how long he looked to find that one.

Posted by: Debra | September 9, 2008 2:59 PM | Report abuse

Debra is right. Palin hasn't said one unscripted word in two weeks! Chris, why aren't you writing about this? It's easy to grasp and wouldn't require any research or hard thinking, which makes it perfect for the "media."

Posted by: Adam | September 9, 2008 2:58 PM | Report abuse

mw in canada, China and India laugh their way to the bank at the thought of BHO requiring Americans to pay 3 or 4 times as much for "alternative energy" than they presently pay for coal fired energy, while China builds a new coal plant every 10 days. China and India laugh when morons propose environmental rules that exempt China and India, like the Kyoto treaty.

Posted by: Razorback | September 9, 2008 2:56 PM | Report abuse

That was beautifully put Republicans or "Republicans"? |

The Republican party is not the party it once was: Fiscally responsible or "morally superior." That's what you get when you keep voting for the most scholastically challenged.

Posted by: James | September 9, 2008 2:54 PM | Report abuse

NEW-CLEAR WEAPONS ... lol, thats hillarious

and palin seriously thinks it was a task that GOD planned for us to go to war with iraq, keep her out of the whitehouse ...

Obama.Biden 08

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2008 2:54 PM | Report abuse

When the issues for our country are so great, the Republicans seize the moment to distract us with celebrity and personality. I hope and pray that we are better than that. We WILL fight tooth and nail for our country and its future and it will be about the substantive issues that matter.

Posted by: Tony Lopez | September 9, 2008 2:53 PM | Report abuse

That 'bama's toast. Soon the Republican juggernaut will start to hum and it'll crush him and his tiny campaign. "I'm not Bush, see my personal story but it's really about issues!" he wants it both ways in everything. "I'm Black! But I was raised by white grandparents! I'm just like you! Except darker! But it's really about the issues!" A huckster, a fraud, a phony, who's going to lead change, with one of the biggest Dem political hacks out there.

Posted by: Stick | September 9, 2008 2:53 PM | Report abuse

Libs4Palin is posting all over the place today -- the exact same post in fact.

McCain/Palin? No way.

Posted by: Ann | September 9, 2008 2:52 PM | Report abuse

Tick, tock, tick, tock......TWELVE DAYS and counting without a SINGLE UNSCRIPTED WORD FROM SARAH!!! Tick, tock, tick, tock..... And does ANYONE think good ole softy Charlie Gibson is going to ask any TOUGH questions? Or that PART OF THEIR DEAL was that Sarah could not be asked any questions without being told AHEAD of time what the questions would be?? WHEN WILL PALIN PUT HERSELF BEFORE A LIVE PRESS CONFERENCE BEFORE MULTIPLE REPORTERS LIKE QUAYLE and FERRARO DID WITHIN TWO DAYS of their selection??? Tick, tock, tick, tock.... TWELVE DAYS and counting....


Posted by: Debra | September 9, 2008 2:51 PM | Report abuse

Wow - Obama ending up short in a personality contest? Please. I've been voting since 1988 and have not had a single candidate I could respect -- until now. Obama is crisply intelligent, well-educated, thinks things through and gives reasoned, measured responses. He can also bring a crowd to its feet, as McCain fears (remember those stupid "Celebrity" ads?). He knows about grass roots politics (yes, Sarah, "community organizers" actually do a lot), state and national issues, and has proven twice now, with Iraq and Georgia, that he has good instincts on the international front as well. He has largely refrained from negative campaigning. He reflects my kind of patriotism, the kind where all of our people are honored, where our country does not stand alone on issues but seeks to understand the larger world, where thought preceeds war and profit is not our ultimate goal. I trust him.

McCain, well I used to trust him but when you think about it, the 5 years he spent as a POW were formative for our country. He came back a broken man, lying about his age while cheating on his wife, and grasping at money and status. Yeah, he's "bipartisan" - his partners in the Keating 5 were all Dems. But his generation doesn't understand mine, doesn't represent mine. And Palin? Don't get me started. Creationists give me the creeps.

Posted by: sherry | September 9, 2008 2:51 PM | Report abuse

wow.

the world watches with a bit of wonder while Americans proudly and defiantly continue to vote themselves into global and economic irrelevance.

by all means, don't concentrate on the issues and vote for people you can relate to. It worked so well with Bush, why not do it again? China and India are laughing all the way to the bank.

Posted by: mw in canada | September 9, 2008 2:51 PM | Report abuse

Nutty leftist wingbats do not want to talk about the issues, they want to talk about the next round of partisan "criminal" investigations. By the time you get to vote for Obama, you will have destroyed him. Great work.

Posted by: Razorback | September 9, 2008 2:51 PM | Report abuse

This election has nothing to do with issues or popularity polls but rather the actual candidate that bumps off a mutual opponent wins in November.

Apparently this mutual opponent exposed corruption within both parties and is now targeted to be bumped off.

The questions are...

1. Will the GOP use Guiliani-like mob-ties like his protege Bernard Kerik who may be doing 140 years of jail time for it?

2. Will the DEMS use an OJ Simpson-like person with a record and may be doing jail time in near future?

3. Will both parties engage in sweetheart exchange deals where these convicted felons do the actual dirty work of bumping off mutual opponent in exchange for lesser jail time and candidates/parties are never suspected in public?

4. Given that this truth is revealed, should we begin to worry about the general safety of our families where ever we are in public or private? For example, do we have to worry about traveling on Port Authority buses from NJ to NYC tonight? Or tomorrow?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2008 2:51 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Claudine 1000 | September 9, 2008 2:40 PM

Apparently Cheney's ridiculous draft dodging didn't bother you, so why should Bidens?

That's right, the Republican motto is:

Do as I say, not as I do.

Posted by: Claudine 2000 | September 9, 2008 2:50 PM | Report abuse

POST OF THE DAY FROM THE HILL'S BLOG BRIEFING ROOM:

Chris Mathews said he got a tingle UP his leg when Barack spoke. I bet he's got a trickle going down his leg when Sahah Palin speaks.

Comment by Joe — September 9, 2008 @ 1:34 pm

Posted by: Razorback | September 9, 2008 2:48 PM | Report abuse

Brian wrote:

I read a lot of griping on this blog.

Why don't some of you try a few of the following suggestions...(I have):

"If you find faults with our country, make it a better one. If you're disappointed with the mistakes of government, join its ranks and work to correct them. Enlist in our armed forces. Become a teacher. Enter the ministry. Run for public office. Feed a hungry child. Teach an illiterate adult to read. Comfort the afflicted. Defend the rights of the oppressed. Our country will be the better, and you will be the happier. Because nothing brings greater happiness in life than to serve a cause greater than yourself."

-John S. McCain

Posted by: Brian
______________________________________

So, is John McCain and Co. going to investigate and prosecute the Bush Administration, Karl Rove involvment with the Segalman Case, the Justice Dept. corruption, Jack Abramnoff scandal? We need better transpanency of this current government. Can John McCain be against his own party? As he claims to be a Maverick?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2008 2:48 PM | Report abuse

Dear Republicans or "Republicans; you are my new best friend. I am encouraged that you and many others still have the clarity of thought to realize the long term disastarous effects of a potential McCain/Palin administration. You summed it up perfectly. Any American who works for a living and has a family to be concerned about cannot afford to destroy our collective futures by electing McCain. I am optimistic that Obama will triumph, but I come to realize that the alternative would send this American in search of a new country.

Posted by: BigDaddy08 | September 9, 2008 2:46 PM | Report abuse

I am a conservative Reagan Republican who planned to vote Libertarian before McCain selected Sarah Palin. She is bright, articulate, honest, decent and hard-working, many qualities which could also be said to apply to mcCain, Obama and Biden. However, the vitriol spewed by the fringe elements in the media has made a mockery of journalism in this country. No one, either Palin or Obama, deserves to be savaged in this way. I won't vote for Obama because I believe him to be a far left socialist. It has nothing to do with his race, Ivy League education or lack of years in the Senate. I respect the decisions of my fellow citizens when it comes to the voting booth. Unfortunately, much of the media no longer believes respect is a quality they should employ when discusing those in the public eye.

Posted by: John Bowers | September 9, 2008 2:46 PM | Report abuse

If Obama really wants this election to be about issues, why are all his ads devoted solely to linking McCain to Bush? He seems to be more interested in making the election on some one not running than winning on his own ideas or resume.

Posted by: AlibiFarmer | September 9, 2008 2:43 PM | Report abuse

Memo to the oh-so-smart media: Every Hillary supporter I know, whether white, black, Asian, Hispanic, etc., is now firmly in the McCain-Palin camp.
Many journalists are, to use the cliché, out of touch with ordinary women, and women who do not march in lockstep with their party. They keep saying we won't switch allegiances to McCain-Palin because of abortion rights and other issues. But we are not all “issue voters.” We also care about experience, character, and leadership. McCain-Palin beats Obama on all these points.

The female factor will be hard to measure, because some women will be afraid to say it out loud (that they are pro-McCain) to the media, and others won’t admit it to their liberal, Obama-loving friends. But once they step into that voting booth, all bets will be off and they will punch McCain-Palin.
As a liberal Democrat, I’d just like to say that the Dems brought this on themselves. They made a mockery of the primaries, and they nominated the wrong candidate. Obama is neither qualified nor electable. Hillary should be the nominee, or at least on the ticket. As prez, Hillary could win this election in a walk. As veep, Hillary would have Obama leading the polls big-time by now. I wonder why it is that Obama, despite the disastrous eight years of Dubya, has not been able to have a commanding lead in the polls? With the state of the economy and the deplorable war in Iraq, Obama should be pummeling the GOP. Could it be that he is in fact THE WRONG CHOICE?
To those (especially female) pundits who say it’s “offensive” to think that Palin might garner the Hillary vote: I think it’s “offensive” that you are so sequestered in your elite ivory tower that you make stupid assumptions about women you don’t have a clue about!
To those who say we are idiots, morons, stupid or ignorant (pick your insult) for choosing to vote McCain-Palin: Keep it up. The more you come off as smug and elitist, the more votes McCain will get. Because nothing motivates the Republicans more than pompous liberals.
Come this November, for me and many others, it’s country first, party second.
PS: I think it speaks volumes about the mood of women voters in this country that HRC herself has refused to bash Palin.
MCCAIN-PALIN IN 2008!

Posted by: Libs4Palin | September 9, 2008 2:43 PM | Report abuse

Wow - this revelation was made on "Countdown with Keith Olbermann"?

What more needs to be said by a woman who has left the woamn bashing democrats for a party more committed to equal opportunity by their own actions - not empty rhetoric.

Time for ALL women to say ENOUGH! Vote Sarah Palin '08!

Posted by: Working Mother | September 9, 2008 2:42 PM | Report abuse

That's because the Republican men think between their legs and NOT between their ears.

Posted by: the Monk | September 9, 2008 2:42 PM | Report abuse

While McCain's story of personal heroism was known -- almost verbatim -- to political insiders, large numbers of average voters knew next to nothing about the torture and suffering the Arizona senator actually endured during his imprisonment.
____________________________

Hey pal will you tell your readers that McCain was not a "FIGHTER PILOT" he was a "BOMBER PILOT". He dropped bombs on women and children from 15,000 feet. Simply put...A TERRORIST WITH AN AIRPLANE!
They did not kill him because his rich Admiral father payed for his life! Start from that and then talk about all the revelations of his HEROISM!
A lot of people did not come home from that one, and a lot that did came back in pieces that have never been put back together! This John McCain is every bit the self indulgent degenerate son of a rich father that George W. Bush is!

Posted by: Harried | September 9, 2008 2:41 PM | Report abuse

Where do you folks come up with all these comments? Nobody has changed their mind about who they are voting for by reading comments. If you have something to say about one of the candidates that we don't know about, fine, otherwise who cares what you think of each one. You are only repeating the same rhetoric that we read on blogs and hear on TV. BTW, I'm voting for McCain because he picked a good VP and Obama is just so creepy and has a mean looking wife. Sarah is just so normal and all American. I really would like to move to Alaska because all the reporters are showing it on TV and it looks like a cool place to live. Oh, and I just love Megan McCAin. She is so cool. She has a cool blog too. And did you know that John and Cindy McCain adopted a baby? I really think that Angelina Jolie would vote for John McCain because she really likes people that adopt kids. Oh and did you hear, Oprah doesn't want Sarah Palin on her show and since she likes Barack, I wouldn't vote for him. Well, gotta go try to convince some more folks to vote for McCain.

Posted by: tilly | September 9, 2008 2:41 PM | Report abuse

Hey harried, your post was a little short, perhaps you could lengthen it.

Or do you not have time, as your mom is asking you to come up from the basement now?

Posted by: JD | September 9, 2008 2:41 PM | Report abuse

How stupid can the American public be? Dont we see where this country is headed? Is this beautiful land only for inbreds and rednecks? And women who believe voting for gender equals voting intelligently? Dont we care about we leave behind for our children? Does being a Christian mean that one cannot think for oneself? Can we see what absolute power is doing to the country? How can anyone one of us in good conscious vote into power a 72 yr old geriatric with one foot in the grave, and one hand on Palin...Have some respect for your country. Please.

Posted by: sry | September 9, 2008 2:41 PM | Report abuse

Of the 50 states, Alaska ranks No. 1 in taxes per resident and No. 1 in spending per resident. Its tax burden per resident is 21/2 times the national average; its spending, more than double. The trick is that Alaska's government spends money on its own citizens and taxes the rest of us to pay for it. Although Palin, like McCain, talks about liberating ourselves from dependence on foreign oil, there is no evidence that being dependent on Alaskan oil would be any more pleasant to the pocketbook.
1. Alaska is, in essence, an adjunct member of OPEC. It has four different taxes on oil, which produce more than 89% of the state's unrestricted revenue. On average, three-quarters of the value of a barrel of oil is taken by the state government before that oil is permitted to leave the state. Alaska residents each get a yearly check for about $2,000 from oil revenues, plus an additional $1,200 pushed through by Palin last year to take advantage of rising oil prices. Any sympathy the governor of Alaska expresses for folks in the lower 48 who are suffering from high gas prices or can't afford to heat their homes is strictly crocodile tears.

Looks alot like a middle east sheikdom don't it??

:-)

Posted by: toritto | September 9, 2008 2:40 PM | Report abuse

So,face it Messiah Barack Hussein Obama has
no real personality,since Obama is clarly
the manufactered result of Obama Spinmeister Evil Democrat Version of Karl
Rove, David Axelrod and Obama's own drug
induced delusions of granduer and monster
Ego,my friends,face the truth Obamabots.

Furthermore Barack Hussein Obama and his hateful racist wife Michelle Obama openly
hate and love to belittle white women like
they and Axelrod did Hillary Clinton and are also now engaged in doing to GOP Gov
and Vice Presidential Nominee Sarah Palin
and while is not working for them either,
and the McCain/Palin "Surge" in the polls
prove it beyond all doubt now then.

So why won't big shot loud mouth Barack Hussein Obama publically discuss his phony
so-called "Community Organizer" Job or how
his employer Acorn was recently convicted
of Election Fraud? Or that all Obama did was hand out flyers? And while Obama was
high on drugs and peddling drugs himself,as
openly brags about in his own books now?

So do I need ask about Democrat VP Old Big
Mouth Joe Biden story as a five time Draft
Dodger here as well? And you Democrats want
these two shady creeps as President and
Vice President do you now Obamabots? NO WAY! NOBAMA! NOBIDEN NOW OR EVER!

Posted by: Claudine 1000 | September 9, 2008 2:40 PM | Report abuse

Poor Obama.

He's likeable enough.

Posted by: steve | September 9, 2008 2:40 PM | Report abuse

McCain= 95% Bush + 5% Palin
Got the 5% bounce.

Posted by: Denverite | September 9, 2008 2:39 PM | Report abuse

I still don't understand why it is in poor taste to question her experience.

Dick Cheney totally changed the expectation of what a VP is supposed to do and be capable of.

I find it surprising that Republicans are willing to have such a drop in quality at that post.

As a professional in management, it just doesn't sit well with me. It is like going from a GS 15 with 30 years of experience to a GS 7 with two years of experience as an intern.

Posted by: Silver Spring | September 9, 2008 2:38 PM | Report abuse

Zanet8 those same smart americans bought it when Cheney and Bush and Rove and most of McCain's campaign leadership team...called the press liberal and unpatriotic as well...while they were lying about wmd's, judicial appointments, katrina, energy meetings, mushroom clouds, Iraqii involvement in 9/11, the list goes on and on...

all the way through this Palin cover up...that they picked a woman whose knowledge base is not even close to up to snuff to keep us safe and and well if Mccain can't finish his term...and she is not what they portray her as...a lot of lies being told and now they are being called on them

by that horrible liberal press...you know the ones who actually called out Nixon...and arms deals...and the lies of the last 8 years...that are looking now obviously to continue.

change being chanted from Mccain and palin and what exactly are they going to change that gets us out of this hole we are in? what answers do they have? the ones that Bush is doing now? the ones that got us here?

saying you'll cut earmarks and pork while picking the governor that received more per capita cash from earmarks and pork for her 80 % approval...isn't change.

Posted by: dl | September 9, 2008 2:37 PM | Report abuse

TO: Mssrs. CHERTOFF, MUKASEY, PAULSON, GATES, McCONNELL, MUELLER

"GOV'T AGENCIES SUPPORT DOMESTIC TERRORISM"
http://www.nowpublic.com/world/government-agencies-support-domestic-torture-and-gang-stalking-says-noted-nowpublic-com-columnist

What do you know about this, and what are you doing about it?

Posted by: scrivener | September 9, 2008 2:35 PM | Report abuse

Actually the 49th Missile Defense Battalion is not under the command of the Governor of Alaska. It is staffed by Reservists of the Alaska Nat'l Guard, but it is part of the 100th Missile Defense Brigade, commanded out of Colorado Springs, CO.

Posted by: JamesCH | September 9, 2008 2:34 PM | Report abuse

If people are stupid enough to elect this old fool and his lying bimbo, then they will get what they deserve. The only problem is that those of us with enough brains to see through McCain and Palin will get it too and we don't deserve it.

Posted by: Electric Bill | September 9, 2008 2:33 PM | Report abuse

Everyone needs to review the movie "Idiocracy." The
Republicans' attack on the public schools, on science, and on "elite" knowledge, opinions, and institutions has borne fruit in a disconnected, uneducated, contextless populace which evidently treats elections as if they were episodes of American Idol. Attacks on the "liberal" press are part of this strategy, since real information about almost anything is likely to unsettle recieved opinion and dominant mythologies.

Posted by: scientist1 | September 9, 2008 2:32 PM | Report abuse

John McBush absolutely terrifies me.


I mean that. I'm scared sh#tless of what this psycho will do if he wins.


If my options are concern or terror, I'll take the former. McCain is a monster waiting to be unleashed.

http://www.youtube.com/swf/l.swf?video_id=PdJUCU1UH2w&rel=0&eurl=http%3A//
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Posted by: McCain is a psychopath | September 9, 2008 2:32 PM | Report abuse

Two consecutive "personality" elections is exactly what got us into the mess we're in now. I don't want to sit down and have a beer with the pres/vp - I want effective leadership. the mccain/palin ticket offer image and no substance. Where's their talk on the issues? Oh, that's right, the issues aren't important per Rick Davis. Obama nailed it - the republicans can campaign, they just can't govern. Let's hope the majority isn't fooled by the same hooey that elected bush twice.

Posted by: Jilli | September 9, 2008 2:31 PM | Report abuse

That easy to say when your shills in the media do your dirty work and turned a blind-eye to your offenses!

McCain-Palin 08

Posted by: theaz | September 9, 2008 2:31 PM | Report abuse

and almost as bed the sheer number of rape cases that they saw in Wasilla while she was mayor and the police were charging

glad she got that sports facility money pit built.

ugh

Posted by: dl | September 9, 2008 2:31 PM | Report abuse

Chris

is the frontiersman Newspaper in Alaska's story freakin true?

about Palin being mayor the town while the police CHARGED THE VICTIMS 300-1200 dollars a piece for their own rape kits...

is this how she curbs spending when crime rises...

tell me again how people relate to this woman please

and tell me again how she is a feminist.

ugh

Posted by: dl | September 9, 2008 2:29 PM | Report abuse

I've spent time trying to figure out what is causing the extreme anger toward Palin, the attempts to descredit her daughter Bristol, and the demands from stupid little newsmen that she MUST be vetted by them to be acceptable. Remember that Americans are smart despite their reputation (as rednecks who drink beer and love guns) among elitist coastal democrats. The overwhelming response to Palin is no convention bounce. Its permanent.

Posted by: Zaney8 | September 9, 2008 2:28 PM | Report abuse

"Don't dismiss the fact that Sarah Palin is Commander of the Alaska National Guard-- consider this.

Alaska is the first line of defense in our missile interceptor defense system. The 49th Missile Defense Battalion of the Alaska National Guard is the unit that protects the entire nation from ballistic missile attacks. It¢s on permanent active duty, unlike other Guard units.

As governor of Alaska , Palin is briefed on highly classified military issues, homeland security, and counterterrorism. Her exposure to classified material may rival even Biden's and certainly by far exceeds Obama's.

She's also the commander in chief of the Alaska State Defense Force (ASDF), a federally recognized militia incorporated into Homeland Security's counterterrorism plans.

Palin is privy to military and intelligence secrets that are vital to the entire country's defense. Given Alaska 's proximity to Russia , she may have security clearances we don't even know about.

She can be entrusted with our national security, because she already is."
-------------------------------------------

This quote next is from Obama:
"Obama was right on the money when he complained about the campaign being bogged down in media-driven inanities and obsessiveness over any misstatement a candidate might make along the way, whether in a speech or while being eavesdropped upon by the opposition. The tactic has been to "take one statement and beat it to death," he said.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/17/AR2008041700013.html

Posted by: Adrian | September 9, 2008 2:27 PM | Report abuse

Barack Obama was correct in his interview with Keith Olbermann. This election is not about personalities. It is about the issues. A minority of voters in the 2000 election decided on a candidate that they wanted to have a beer with rather than on someone who could actual fix the problems facing the American people. After seven long years of watching George W. Bush make a mess of every aspect of the government, we need an intelligent man in the White House who is ready, willing and able to fix the problems.

If this election is again on personality, then the media will once again have to accept the blame. To date the media is still not asking the candidates the hard questions such as how the substantial deficit that exists today will be dealt with in a new administration.

Also, this nation's experience with Dick Cheney as Vice President mandates that the media also ask hard questions of Sarah Palin who appears to be even less qualified than was George W. Bush in 2000.

Posted by: FL Voter | September 9, 2008 2:27 PM | Report abuse

Why is it that we always put the least educated person in the white house. mccain is an idiot that only talks about being a pow. He was in the senate for 20 plus yrs. Bush trashed his war record when he ran against him in 2000. Now repub wants to elect him calling him a war hero. repubs are idoits easily fooled and motivated by fear of educated people, black or minority people. Lets face it if Obama was white with the message and the knowledge of the issues he has now mccain would be 30pts behind right now. America rather loose with white than win with black. One thing I would say when mccain wins and we go to war with iran my son would not be fighting for him or the woman he picked. I am so glad he has duel citizenship. What should happen is that any parent that voted for mccain should be registered so when he start a war their kid go to the front line. That would be fair. If you don't support mccain you are not allowed to go to war for him

Posted by: We need hell | September 9, 2008 2:27 PM | Report abuse

she praised Hillary Rodham Clinton and pledged to finish her work by smashing through the glass ceiling in which Clinton had made 18 million cracks.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2008 2:09 PM

She was against Hillary before she was for her, "She said she felt kind of bad she couldn't support a woman, but she didn't like Clinton's "whining."

Posted by: Palin thinks Clinton is a Whiner | September 9, 2008 2:27 PM | Report abuse

To all the haters out there,

A vote for palin is a vote FOR affirmative action.

Dag, and we thought that the repubs were not compassionate.

Posted by: roxlaw | September 9, 2008 2:27 PM | Report abuse

Someone should tell Keith Olbermann that Sen. Obama already chose a running mate and that he can stop kissing up.

Also the more Sen. Obama belittles Gov. Palin's experience, the more his own inexperience is highlighted. It appears that Sen. McCain truly is the one ready to lead.

Posted by: Orange Line | September 9, 2008 2:26 PM | Report abuse

VOTERS: As my wise grandmother said, "Don't buy a pig in a poke." We've heard about lipstick on pigs (and pit bulls) and we have been warned.

This election is truly buyer beware and the GOP goods are shoddy AND expensive.

Go for quality and integrity over glib and perky. Reject McCane and Palin.

Posted by: SUZEQ | September 9, 2008 2:26 PM | Report abuse


JOHN MCCAIN LEADER OR MADMAN
YOU BE THE JUDGE.

WASHINGTON — Senator John McCain arrived late at his Senate office on the morning of Sept. 11, 2001, just after the first plane hit the World Trade Center. “This is war,” he murmured to his aides. The sound of scrambling fighter planes rattled the windows, sending a tremor of panic through the room.


Erik Jacobs for The New York Times
John McCain said he had consulted Henry A. Kissinger on foreign policy before and after the Sept. 11 attacks.

Within hours, Mr. McCain, the Vietnam War hero and famed straight talker of the 2000 Republican primary, had taken on a new role: the leading advocate of taking the American retaliation against Al Qaeda far beyond Afghanistan. In a marathon of television and radio appearances, Mr. McCain recited a short list of other countries said to support terrorism, invariably including Iraq, Iran and Syria.

“There is a system out there or network, and that network is going to have to be attacked,” Mr. McCain said the next morning on ABC News. “It isn’t just Afghanistan,” he added, on MSNBC. “I don’t think if you got bin Laden tomorrow that the threat has disappeared,” he said on CBS, pointing toward other countries in the Middle East.

Within a month he made clear his priority. “Very obviously Iraq is the first country,” he declared on CNN. By Jan. 2, Mr. McCain was on the aircraft carrier Theodore Roosevelt in the Arabian Sea, yelling to a crowd of sailors and airmen: “Next up, Baghdad!”

Now, as Mr. McCain prepares to accept the Republican presidential nomination, his response to the attacks of Sept. 11 opens a window onto how he might approach the gravest responsibilities of a potential commander in chief. Like many, he immediately recalibrated his assessment of the unseen risks to America’s security. But he also began to suggest that he saw a new “opportunity” to deter other potential foes by punishing not only Al Qaeda but also Iraq.

“Just as Sept. 11 revolutionized our resolve to defeat our enemies, so has it brought into focus the opportunities we now have to secure and expand our freedom,” Mr. McCain told a NATO conference in Munich in early 2002, urging the Europeans to join what he portrayed as an all but certain assault on Saddam Hussein. “A better world is already emerging from the rubble.”

To his admirers, Mr. McCain’s tough response to Sept. 11 is at the heart of his appeal. They argue that he displayed the same decisiveness again last week in his swift calls to penalize Russia for its incursion into Georgia, in part by sending peacekeepers to police its border.

His critics charge that the emotion of Sept. 11 overwhelmed his former cool-eyed caution about deploying American troops without a clear national interest and a well-defined exit, turning him into a tool of the Bush administration in its push for a war to transform the region.

“He has the personality of a fighter pilot: when somebody stings you, you want to strike out,” said retired Gen. John H. Johns, a former friend and supporter of Mr. McCain who turned against him over the Iraq war. “Just like the American people, his reaction was: show me somebody to hit.”

Whether through ideology or instinct, though, Mr. McCain began making his case for invading Iraq to the public more than six months before the White House began to do the same. He drew on principles he learned growing up in a military family and on conclusions he formed as a prisoner in North Vietnam. He also returned to a conviction about “the common identity” of dangerous autocracies as far-flung as Serbia and North Korea that he had developed consulting with hawkish foreign policy thinkers to help sharpen the themes of his 2000 presidential campaign.

While pushing to take on Saddam Hussein, Mr. McCain also made arguments and statements that he may no longer wish to recall. He lauded the war planners he would later criticize, including Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld and Vice President Dick Cheney. (Mr. McCain even volunteered that he would have given the same job to Mr. Cheney.) He urged support for the later-discredited Iraqi exile Ahmad Chalabi’s opposition group, the Iraqi National Congress, and echoed some of its suspect accusations in the national media. And he advanced misleading assertions not only about Mr. Hussein’s supposed weapons programs but also about his possible ties to international terrorists, Al Qaeda and the Sept. 11 attacks.

Five years after the invasion of Iraq, Mr. McCain’s supporters note that he became an early critic of the administration’s execution of the occupation, and they credit him with pushing the troop “surge” that helped bring stability. Mr. McCain, though, stands by his support for the war and expresses no regrets about his advocacy.

In written answers to questions, he blamed “Iraq’s opacity under Saddam” for any misleading remarks he made about the peril it posed.

The Sept. 11 attacks “demonstrated the grave threat posed by a hostile regime, possessing weapons of mass destruction, and with reported ties to terrorists,” Mr. McCain wrote in an e-mail message on Friday. Given Mr. Hussein’s history of pursuing illegal weapons and his avowed hostility to the United States, “his regime posed a threat we had to take seriously.” The attacks were still a reminder, Mr. McCain added, of the importance of international action “to prevent outlaw states — like Iran today — from developing weapons of mass destruction.”

Formative Years

Mr. McCain has been debating questions about the use of military force far longer than most. He grew up in a family that had sent a son to every American war since 1776, and international relations were a staple of the McCain family dinner table. Mr. McCain grew up listening to his father, Adm. John S. McCain Jr., deliver lectures on “The Four Ocean Navy and the Soviet Threat,” closing with a slide of an image he considered the ultimate factor in the balance of power: a soldier marching through a rice paddy with a rifle at his shoulder.

“To quote Sherman, war is all hell and we need to fight it out and get it over with and that is when the killing stops,” recalled Joe McCain, Senator McCain’s younger brother.

Vietnam, for Senator McCain, reinforced those lessons. He has often said he blamed the Johnson administration’s pause in bombing for prolonging the war, and he credited President Richard M. Nixon’s renewed attacks with securing his release from a North Vietnamese prison. He has made the principle that the exercise of military power sets the bargaining table for international relations a consistent theme of his career ever since, and in his 2002 memoir he wrote that one of his lifelong convictions was “the imperative that American power never retreat in response to an inferior adversary’s provocation.”


But Mr. McCain also took away from Vietnam a second, restraining lesson: the necessity for broad domestic support for any military action. For years he opposed a string of interventions — in Lebanon, Haiti, Somalia, and, for a time, the Balkans — on the grounds that the public would balk at the loss of life without clear national interests. “The Vietnam thing,” he recently said.

In the late 1990s, however, while he was beginning to consider his 2000 presidential race, he started rebalancing his view of the needs to project American strength and to sustain public support. The 1995 massacre of 5,000 unarmed Bosnian Muslims at Srebrenica under NATO’s watch struck at his conscience, he has said, and in addition to America’s strategic national interests — in that case, the future and credibility of NATO — Mr. McCain began to speak more expansively about America’s moral obligations as the only remaining superpower.

His aides say he later described the American air strikes in Bosnia in 1996 and in Kosovo in 1999 as a parable of political leadership: Mr. McCain, Senator Bob Dole and others had rallied Congressional support for the strikes despite widespread public opposition, then watched approval soar after the intervention helped to bring peace.

“Americans elect their leaders to make these kinds of judgments,” Mr. McCain said in the e-mail message.

It was during the Balkan wars that Mr. McCain and his advisers read a 1997 article on the Wall Street Journal editorial page by William Kristol and David Brooks of The Weekly Standard — both now Op-Ed page columnists at The New York Times — promoting the idea of “national greatness” conservatism, defined by a more activist agenda at home and a more muscular role in the world.

“I wouldn’t call it a ‘eureka’ moment, but there was a sense that this is where we are headed and this is what we are trying to articulate and they have already done a lot of the work,” said John Weaver, a former McCain political adviser. “And, quite frankly, from a crass political point of view, we were in the making-friends business. The Weekly Standard represented a part of the primary electorate that we could get.”

Soon Mr. McCain and his aides were consulting regularly with the circle of hawkish foreign policy thinkers sometimes referred to as neoconservatives — including Mr. Kristol, Robert Kagan and Randy Scheunemann, a former aide to Mr. Dole who became a McCain campaign adviser — to develop the senator’s foreign policy ideas and instincts into the broad themes of a presidential campaign. (In his e-mail message, Mr. McCain noted that he had also consulted with friends like Henry A. Kissinger, known for a narrower view of American interests.)

One result was a series of speeches in which Mr. McCain called for “rogue state rollback.” He argued that disparate regional troublemakers, including Iraq, North Korea and Serbia, bore a common stamp: they were all autocracies. And as such, he contended, they were more likely to export terrorism, spread dangerous weapons, or start ethnic conflicts. In an early outline of what would become his initial response to the Sept. 11 attacks, Mr. McCain argued that “swift and sure” retribution against any one of the rogue states was an essential deterrent to any of the others. But Mr. McCain’s advisers and aides say his “rogue state” speeches stopped short of the most sweeping international agenda put forth by Mr. Kristol, Mr. Kagan and their allies. Mr. McCain explicitly disavowed direct military action merely to advance American values, foreswearing any “global crusade” of interventions in favor of relying on covert and financial support for internal opposition groups.

As an example, he could point to his 1998 sponsorship of the Iraqi Liberation Act, which sought to direct nearly $100 million to Iraqis who hoped to overthrow Saddam Hussein. The bill, signed by President Bill Clinton, also endorsed the ouster of Mr. Hussein.

Mr. McCain said then that he doubted the United States could muster the political will to use ground troops to remove the Iraqi dictator any time soon. “It was much easier when Saddam Hussein was occupying Kuwait and threatening Saudi Arabia,” the senator told Fox News in November 1998. “We’d have to convince the American people that it’s worth again the sacrifice of American lives, because that would also be part of the price.”

Hard Calls

Mr. McCain spent the afternoon of Sept. 11 in a young aide’s studio apartment near the Capitol. There was no cable television, nothing but water in the kitchen, and the hallway reminded him of an old boxing gym. Evacuated from his office but stranded by traffic, he could not resist imagining himself at the other end of Pennsylvania Avenue. “There are not enough Secret Service agents in the world to keep me away from Washington and New York at a time like this,” Mr. McCain told an adviser.


Over the next days and weeks, however, Mr. McCain became almost as visible as he would have been as president. Broadcasters rushed to him as a patriotic icon and reassuring voice, and for weeks he was ubiquitous on the morning news programs, Sunday talk shows, cable news networks, and even late-night comedy shows.

In the spotlight, he pushed rogue state rollback one step further, arguing that the United States should go on the offensive as a warning to any other country that might condone such an attack. “These networks are well-embedded in some of these countries,” Mr. McCain said on Sept. 12, listing Iraq, Iran and Syria as potential targets of United States pressure. “We’re going to have to prove to them that we are very serious, and the price that they will pay will not only be for punishment but also deterrence.”

Although he had campaigned for President Bush during the 2000 general election, he was still largely frozen out of the White House because of animosities left over from the Republican primary. But after Mr. Bush declared he would hold responsible any country condoning terrorism, Mr. McCain called his leadership “magnificent” and his national security team the strongest “that has ever been assembled.” A few weeks later, Larry King of CNN asked whether he would have named Mr. Rumsfeld and Colin L. Powell to a McCain cabinet. “Oh, yes, and Cheney,” Mr. McCain answered, saying he, too, would have offered Mr. Cheney the vice presidency.

Even during the heat of the war in Afghanistan, Mr. McCain kept an eye on Iraq. To Jay Leno in mid-September, Mr. McCain said he believed “some other countries” had assisted Osama bin Laden, going on to suggest Iraq, Syria and Iran as potential suspects. In October 2001, when an Op-Ed page column in The New York Times speculated that Iraq, Russia or some other country might bear responsibility for that month’s anthrax mailings, Mr. McCain interrupted a question about Afghanistan from David Letterman on that night’s “Late Show.” “The second phase is Iraq,” Mr. McCain said, adding, “Some of this anthrax may — and I emphasize may — have come from Iraq.” (The Federal Bureau of Investigation says it came from a federal government laboratory in Maryland.) By October, United States and foreign intelligence agencies had said publicly that they doubted any cooperation between Mr. Hussein and Al Qaeda, noting Al Qaeda’s opposition to such secular nationalists. American intelligence officials soon declared that Mr. Hussein had not supported international terrorism for nearly a decade.

But when the Czech government said that before the attacks, one of the 9/11 hijackers had met in Prague with an Iraqi intelligence official, Mr. McCain seized the report as something close to a smoking gun. “The evidence is very clear,” he said three days later, in an Oct. 29 television interview. (Intelligence agencies quickly cast doubt on the meeting.)

Frustrated by the dearth of American intelligence about Iraq, Mr. McCain’s aides say, he had long sought to learn as much as he could from Iraqi opposition figures in exile, including Mr. Chalabi of the Iraqi National Congress. Over the years, Mr. McCain often urged support for the group, saying it had “significant support, in my view, inside Iraq.”

After Sept. 11, Mr. Chalabi’s group said an Iraqi emissary had once met with Osama bin Laden, and brought forward two Iraqi defectors who described terrorist training camps and biological weapons efforts. At times, Mr. McCain seemed to echo their accusations, citing the “two defectors” in a television interview and attesting to “credible reports of involvement between Iraqi administration officials, Iraqi officials and the terrorists.”

Growing Impatient

But United States intelligence officials had doubts about Mr. Chalabi at the time and have since discredited his group. In 2006, Mr. McCain acknowledged to The New Republic that he had been “too enamored with the I.N.C.” In his e-mail message, though, he said he never relied on the group for information about Iraq’s weapons program.

At a European security conference in February 2002, when the Bush administration still publicly maintained that it had made no decision about moving against Iraq, Mr. McCain described an invasion as all but certain. “A terrorist resides in Baghdad,” he said, adding, “A day of reckoning is approaching.”

Regime change in Iraq in addition to Afghanistan, he argued, would compel other sponsors of terrorism to mend their ways, “accomplishing by example what we would otherwise have to pursue through force of arms.”

Finally, as American troops massed in the Persian Gulf in early 2003, Mr. McCain grew impatient, his aides say, concerned that the White House was failing to act as the hot desert summer neared. Waiting, he warned in a speech in Washington, risked squandering the public and international support aroused by Sept. 11. “Does anyone really believe that the world’s will to contain Saddam won’t eventually collapse as utterly as it did in the 1990s?” Mr. McCain asked.

In retrospect, some of Mr. McCain’s critics now accuse him of looking for a pretext to justify the war. “McCain was hell-bent for leather: ‘Saddam Hussein is a bad guy, we have got to teach him, let’s send a message to the other people in the Middle East,’ ” said Senator John Kerry, Democrat of Massachusetts.

But Mr. McCain, in his e-mail message, said the reason he had supported the war was the evolving threat from Mr. Hussein.

“I believe voters elect their leaders based on their experience and judgment — their ability to make hard calls, for instance, on matters of war and peace,” he wrote. “It’s important to get them right.”

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2008 2:25 PM | Report abuse

Well where has this big "STAR" been hiding since Thursday? Has the Coporate propaganda machine got a "STAR" who can't be seen or heard only talked about on it's hands? HYPE, HYPE, HYPE!!!!!!

DRAG HER OUT!!! GIVE HER THE FULL KARL ROVE TREATMENT?

Posted by: Harried | September 9, 2008 2:24 PM | Report abuse

GREAT POST JAMESCH!

Posted by: roxlaw | September 9, 2008 2:23 PM | Report abuse

This is a curious turn, and somewhat ironic given that Obama's campaign has largely been driven by a cult of personality. Other than perhaps on the issue of opposition to the war, Obama certainly did not beat Clinton on the issues, and throughout his national political career, he has made his personal narrative front and center. His two books, after all, are not policy discussions (like Al Gore has written), but memoirs. Obama loves to talk about himself.

Now that McCain has made a powerful statement of who he is, replete with a POW narrative that Obama can never hope to match (having an absent father seems passe in comparison), Obama wants to retreat to the issues. Since this isn't a space in which Obama has run thus far, we'll see how the new tactic works.

What the Obama campaigns hopes for, I think, is to catch McCain in gaffes and contradictions on policy issues, and then to mop the floor with Palin at the VP debate. Hoping that your opponents screw up isn't a very sound November victory strategy, though.

Posted by: blert | September 9, 2008 2:23 PM | Report abuse

If as McCain's campaign manager says, "This election is not about issues", the United States is in deep trouble. If we elect the next US President as though we're voting for a Student Council president, we have no one to blame but ourselves. Our politicians and indeed the press is nothing but a reflection of we the people. We elect them. We subsidize the ratings that feed the press. Until we as a people begin to think more deeply and have a greater sense of the world, we will go the way of Rome.

This may sound too melancholy at a time when we're all excited about the latest fad, but some things like the direction of our country and the world ought to inspire gravitas.

Posted by: truth17 | September 9, 2008 2:23 PM | Report abuse

wow, once again who cares about polls. Everyday we hear they are even. Guess what they are not even. We only vote once guys. Now let me hit the soft republicans. Every time the media gets information on Palin you guys freakout about them being hard on her. Don't you want to see if she can handle it. Clearly we see after two terms Bush can not :)

Posted by: Jet1994 | September 9, 2008 2:21 PM | Report abuse

It is really unfortunate that the Democrats nominated the worst candidate, with shameless support from left wing loonies like Olberman, Mathews, Schuster, Williams etc. It is a shame that inspite of the best pro-dems climate in 50 years, Dems are the ones sweating now. What a shame, Dems had the best candidate Hillary, to chosse. Unfortunately they chose a Chamelion, from the Daley Machine and they are paying the price now

Posted by: BJ | September 9, 2008 2:21 PM | Report abuse

If it is wrong to play the "race card" despite the fact that we have witnessed a subtle and not so subtle backlash against OBAMA based on his race; isn't it just as deplorable to play the woman card?

Politics is for big dogs and if you can't take the heat, get OFF THE PORCH!

It is on and every aspect of palins past, from her membership in an anti-jewish and just about anti-everyone else church, LIES about the bridge to nowhere and troopergate, her appaling stance on abortion which allowed her to choose to carry to full term but denies another woman the same choice, EVEN IF SHE IS RAPED, to requiring that she be treated with deference. WHAT, during a major political campaign? Be serious.

That said, she is a false affirmative action recipient and is doing all of the things that those who benefit, but don't deserve to be accorded the aa status do; and that is to ask for, or in her case demand, special treatment. If she wants to hang with the boys then she should quit whinning. She can't however, have it both ways.

She and her party are hypocrites of the highest order and if they win, this country will get exactly what it deserves.

Posted by: roxlaw | September 9, 2008 2:20 PM | Report abuse

To 42 is equal to 50: Yawn, you McCain low-information voters are so boooorring...

Chris can be a bit smarmy sometimes, but he isn't stupid. Here is the definition of "Statistical Tie:"

What exactly is a statistical tie? Is a special sort of tie, and if so, how does it differ from a "normal" tie?

Strangely enough, in almost all cases, a statistical tie is not a tie at all! A statistical tie is a different type of tie altogether.

In short, a statistical tie is a polling result for which the difference between two (or more) candidates is of the nature we would expect sampling error alone to reasonably explain. Presuming the actual election result between the candidates to be exactly a tie, poll results still will--due to sampling error--differ somewhat. If that difference is in the range of differences that are reasonably a result of sampling error alone, then the poll result comparing the contending candidates is ruled a statistical tie. More informally, we might say that a statistical tie occurs when the poll results lead us to conclude the election is "too close to call."

Posted by: Louise | September 9, 2008 2:20 PM | Report abuse

Ok "Republicans"-- if that's what you still want to call yourselves-- let me get this right:
You're rejecting the Obamas and Bidens, who clearly represent idealistic American families, and embracing the shameful McCain/Palin family model?
Both Barack and Michelle Obama overcame obstacles to gain a Harvard education so that they can provide for their family. The Obamas share a love for community and working to help others. They clearly love each other and their beautiful daughters. Joe Biden's family stood strong and came together after the tragic death of his first wife. Biden took a train from DC to Delaware every night to be with his family through the crisis. Although this took a toll on his career, Joe Biden knew this was the right thing to do because, in America, family always comes before politics.
Now contrast the classy Obama and Biden families with the adulterous and flamboyant John McCain who, as the son of a respected military officer, received all the breaks in life. Unfortunately, he could not leverage his many advantages into scholastic success as he ended up in the bottom 5 of his class at Navy. He cheated on his first wife, many times, after she became disfigured in an accident. He robbed the cradle by cheating on her with his current wife: the wealthy young model named Cindy McCain, heiress to an alcohol distribution empire. Cindy stole from her own charity to support a prescription drug addiction. John and Cindy McCain own so many homes, they lost count. That is a classic example of an 'Elitist Family.'
As for the Palin clan, we know very little, but what we know so far is alarming. Her's is a family that preaches the social practices of the religious far-right, yet this has resulted in an underage and unwed pregnant daughter. Mr. Palin boasts a DUI on his resume and Sarah Palin clearly puts career ahead of family as she leaves behind her special needs baby and pregnant teen for the campaign trail.
So when you put that McCain sign in our lawn, I hope you realize you're telling America that the GOP supports a playboy lifestyle and the dismissal of sacred wedding vows. And when you chant "Sarah! Sarah!", you're screaming aloud that the Republican party embraces underage unprotected unmarried sex, drug and alcohol abuse, destruction of the environment, and politics before family. Are you sure you want to declare that the sinful family histories of John McCain and Sarah Palin represent the family values us "Republicans" cherish?
I know you tend to vote for the person with a large R beside their name, regardless of their age, gender, or policy. Just know this: by supporting John McCain, you are supporting a man who has made every effort to distance himself from the traditional Republican party. This is a man who used his acceptance speech as an admission of guilt, confessing that the Republicans are responsible for the many recent American failures. McCain, on behalf of the Republican party, accepted blame for 8 years of war, lies, cronism, corruption, incompetence, economic failure, debt, inflation, unemployment, and giving to the rich while taking from the poor, (you'll have to show me where that's what Jesus taught us in the Bible). John McCain voted against tax cuts. He voted to give illegal immigrants social security. He voted, numerous times, against military funding and benefits for veterans He spoke out AGAINST off shore drilling. McCain colluded to sell out the most conservative of the Bush nominees to the courts and voted to confirm ACLU liberal and pro-abortion Ruth Bader Ginsburg. The Gun Owners of America give McCain a grade of F-. As for his VP choice, contrary to her ultra conservative rhetoric, Sarah Palin's very short record reveals tax hikes on everything from income to groceries, and as mayor, $27 million worth of earmarks for her town of 6,000 (which equals $4,500 per person, or, if applied on a national level, an extra $1,350,000,000,000 in spending/debt). Yes, Ms. Palin claims to be Pro-Life... but when will you realize Pro-Life = Anti War + Anti Gun + Anti Poverty?
And now, McCain/Palin have adopted the Democrat's campaign slogan of "CHANGE". Well, if authentic Republicans are currently in control of the White House, and McCain/Palin are promising "change", it's clear that a McCain/Palin administration will drastically redefine the Republican platform. Apparently, the new McCain/Palin "Republican" platform features the deterioration of the American family, disrespect of the virtues of marriage, endorsement of an elitist lifestyle, higher taxes, and more war, immigration, and spending. So on November 4th, you "Republicans" better remember to think about how your vote will impact your beloved party... if you're not careful, you'll have to live with it for at least 4 years, and probably many many more.

Posted by: Republicans or "Republicans"? | September 9, 2008 2:19 PM | Report abuse

What the Anon. poster at 2:09 is forgetting is that Sarah Palin is governor of a state twice the size of Texas, but with a population smaller than Austin, the capital of Texas.

The poster is also forgetting that she is under investigation for ethics violation, and is claiming to be a champion in the fight against federal earmarks, all the while accepting over $750 million in pork as governor.

She also hired a Jack Abramoff-trained federal lobbyist while mayor of her small town of Wasilla, securing $27 million in earmarks for a town of about 6,000.

When she was elected to the governor's mansion, she left Wasilla with $22 million in long-term debt.

And now, it appears she spent state travel stipends simply to go home to Wasilla (those funds are for official travel).

She's "one of us", if you happen to be Ted Stevens.

Posted by: JamesCH | September 9, 2008 2:19 PM | Report abuse

The McSame/Failin' (aka John McCain and Sarah Palin) campaign virtually came out and stated that they will win because Americans, in general, are stupid.

They think we're stupid enough to believe that the party who got us into this mess is the party that should be trusted to fix it!

They think we're stupid enough to believe Obama will raise taxes, when it's a FACT that Obama will give the middle class (anyone making under 200K) 3 times the tax break compared to McCain's "plan"!

They think we're stupid enough to believe that the "surge" in Iraq was a more important decision than deciding to start the war in Iraq in the first place!

They think we're stupid enough to believe in a VP candidate with a shrill tone and pretty smile, but with zero experience and legitimate ethics issues!

They think we're stupid enough to believe that we should live in a theocracy where extremist views of Christianity should be forced upon the population!

They think we're stupid enough to believe in the same Karl Rove style politics that delivered us 8 years of Bush/Cheney and corrupt Republican congressmen!

They think we're stupid enough to believe that the "John McBush/Dick Cheney in a Skirt" ticket can adopt the Obama/Biden campaign theme of "CHANGE" without having us wonder what, exactly, they will "change" when they are clearly offering the exact same policies of the current Bush administration!

So, America, this election comes down to one simple question: Are we STUPID or not?

Posted by: Stupid Is as Stupid Does | September 9, 2008 2:19 PM | Report abuse

Obama needs to ditch the issues if that's how McPalin wants to play. Fight dirty and sow doubts in the minds of voters about their authenticity and get the dialogue away from his image.

http://www.political-buzz.com/

Posted by: matt | September 9, 2008 2:18 PM | Report abuse

This Palin thing is almost certain to backfire.
Since everybody seems to think it's OK just to accept that our Presidency is just a beauty queen contest,
we might as well go the whole way:

So, basically, men think she's a hot cheerleader and they like that.
Their wives and girlfriends, on the other hand, do not like that,
and they are lining up to smack the stupid woman down.

This is not going to work out at all well for McCain.

Posted by: wardropper | September 9, 2008 2:17 PM | Report abuse

JESUS WAS A COMMUNITY ORGANIZER ...

have you no shame my little Republican friends?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2008 2:17 PM | Report abuse


The real issue of the election is whether we will continue to spend more than the rest of the world combined for national defense. When Bush took over it was $300 billion per year; now it is $700 billion. Neither candidate will discuss it. With McCain and his neo-con advisors, it is certain to grow even faster. No health care. No decent schools. No ability to compete with China. Enjoy.

Posted by: Charles Lewis | September 9, 2008 2:17 PM | Report abuse

Partisan preferences aside, Sarah Palin might turn out to be a shooting star, a flash in the pan, a fad.

Lefties find it hard to accept that her personality (such as we've seen it in this brief amount of time) can be so appealing. She reminds me of people I grew up with. Admit it, Lefties, she's someone that millions of Americans can relate to.

Righties like her so much that they'll say anything to make the case that she's ready to fix the economy and deal with Vladimir Putin. (I'm sure Putin shakes in fear over the pitbull with lipstick line.) Admit it, Righties, it's not so much that you think she'd be a great president - you just like her.

The next phase is coming soon. Eventually, McCain and Palin will have to campaign separately, and we'll see which of the two draws bigger crowds (I'm betting it's Palin).

And then come the debates. Oh, this roller coaster ride is just starting to pick up!

Posted by: dognabbit | September 9, 2008 2:15 PM | Report abuse

That's because Americans are ignorant and treat Presidential elections like American Idol.

Posted by: joneshn | September 9, 2008 2:15 PM | Report abuse

Another 4 years of Republican idiocy. We're doomed!!!!!!!

Posted by: Wakeup | September 9, 2008 2:14 PM | Report abuse


Jews have a word for that CHUTZPAH!!!

Posted by: madhatter | September 9, 2008 1:52 PM

Who cares about the Jews, we are dealing with an American Issue. In America when we dont like what your position is we have a saying, " Go back to your own Country".

Go McCain

Posted by: GO MCCAIN | September 9, 2008 1:58 PM

___________________________

Well -- GO McCain -- I will send this to someone I know who is working for Obama in Florida. I am sure all the little old Jewish voters there would love to see what McCain supporters think of American Jewish voters.

At least you don't hide you bigotry. For a Republican, that is refreshing.

ALSO - to Gary -- Latinos support Obama overwhelmingly. Your fear-mongering about race is creepy.

Posted by: Louise | September 9, 2008 2:14 PM | Report abuse

BHO campaign is not telling the truth, talk about karl rove tactics?

David Axelrod=Karl Rove
BHO campaign=George W. Bush campaign
Same old politics.

BHO foregot to add the rest of the sentence from Rick Davis.
Whatever happen to BHO changing his mind on campaign finance, FISA bill, Rev. Wright and etc.

NObama!

Palin has his campaign scared.

Posted by: Vato | September 9, 2008 2:13 PM | Report abuse

Chris,
Did you pass Math?

A statistical tie is not 5 to 10 points MORE. And take a look at women and Independents. It really increases in Mccain's favor! Like by 20 points.

You must only count MORE when it is Obama that is ahead.

Come on. At least TRY to be a journalist.

Posted by: 42 is equal to 50 | September 9, 2008 2:13 PM | Report abuse

here's the thing.

Palin would say she'd "fibuster" a bill , and then vote for it.

Obama did.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2008 2:12 PM | Report abuse

For all the talk the righties are spitting about all the "unfair" treatment Sarah Palin is getting, someone should remind them that the blogosphere is the same place that spread accusations that Barack Obama of being a secret Muslim, of not being an American citizen, and of being some kind of "Manchurian Candidate" for al Qaeda.

They're forgetting that the neither the Democratic Party nor the Obama campaign aren't responsible for all of this.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2008 2:12 PM | Report abuse

I don't agree that McCain succeeded in defining Obama as a celebrity, Chris. This whole thing is about Palin, hands down. McCain is basking in her glow so much that he won't let her stray more than a few feet away. Its like he'll wither away without her.

Will a policy focus work for Obama? Not alone. Why? Its BO-RING! It won't make the news, it won't excite people, its way too John Kerry and Al Gore. The big O needs to find his own (maybe policy-based) ridicule-stick and beat McSame and Sarah Celebrity with it. Its back to school time, so take them to school. Their policies are foolish or nonexistent--if the American people don't realize that by the election, its Obama's fault.

Posted by: scrapster | September 9, 2008 2:10 PM | Report abuse

Right wing jerks. Listen to what the 2 candidates have to say on the issues. Then get back to us.

Posted by: oberle | September 9, 2008 2:10 PM | Report abuse

One wonders: What did Sarah Palin ever do to inspire the rage and bile that exploded on her selection by John McCain as his running mate? What is there either in this woman's record or resume to elicit such ferocity?

What did we know of her when she was introduced?

That she was a mother of five who had brought into this world a baby boy with Down syndrome, thus living her Christian beliefs. That she was a small-town conservative who had risen from mayor of Wasilla (population 9,700) to be governor of a state twice the size of Texas.

That she was a reformer who had dethroned an old boys' network by dumping a sitting Republican governor. That she had taken on Big Oil, taxed the companies and returned the money in $1,200 checks to every citizen of Alaska. And that she had cut a deal with Canada to build a pipeline to bring natural gas to her fellow Americans.

And, oh, yes. She was "Sarah Barracuda" - a fierce high school athlete, a runner-up in the Miss Alaska pageant, a Feminist for Life and lifetime member of the NRA. Introduced by McCain, she praised Hillary Rodham Clinton and pledged to finish her work by smashing through the glass ceiling in which Clinton had made 18 million cracks.

What, in any or all of this, is there to justify the feral attacks within minutes of her introduction? What had she done to cause this outburst? Answer: absolutely nothing.

No. Palin is not resented for what she has done, but for who she is: a Christian conservative who believes unborn children are gifts of God, even those with birth defects, and have a God-given right to life.

Normally, the press is reluctant to rummage into the private lives of public servants, unless their conduct affects their duties or they preach virtues they hypocritically do not practice.

Yet, no sooner was Palin introduced, than the media went berserk over the news that her 17-year-old daughter is pregnant. As 1 in 3 births in America is out-of-wedlock and Hollywood celebrates this lifestyle, why did the New York Times and the Washington Post splash this "news" on page one above the fold?

How does Bristol Palin's pregnancy disqualify Sarah Palin to be vice president? Why is it even relevant?

They did it because they thought it would damage Sarah Palin in the eyes of a Christian community they do not comprehend.

So out of bounds was the media that Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama, in an act of decency, declared Palin's family off limits and reminded the media that he was himself born to a teenage mom.

If one would wish to see the famous liberal double standard on naked display, consider.

Palin's daughter was fair game for a media that refused to look into reports that John Edwards, a Democratic candidate for president, was conducting an illicit affair with a woman said to be carrying his child and cheating on his faithful wife Elizabeth, who has incurable cancer. That was not a legitimate story, but Bristol Palin's pregnancy is?

Why did the selection of Sarah Palin cause a suspension of all standards and a near riot among a media that has been so in the tank for Obama even "Saturday Night Live" has satirized the infatuation?

Because she is one of us - and he is one of them.

Barack Obama is Harvard Law. Palin is public schools and Idaho State. Obama was a Saul Alinsky social worker who rustled up food stamps. Palin kills her own food.

Michelle Obama has a $300,000-a-year sinecure doing PR for a Chicago hospital. Todd Palin is a union steelworker, who augments his income working vacations on the North Slope. Sarah Palin has always been proud to be an American. Michelle Obama was never proud of America - until Barack Obama started winning.

Barack Obama has zero experience as an executive. Sarah Palin ran her own fishing fleet, was mayor for six years and runs the largest state in the union. She belongs to a mainstream Christian church. Obama was, for 15 years, a parishioner at Trinity United and had his daughters baptized by Pastor Jeremiah Wright, whose sermons are saturated in black-power, anti-white racism and anti-Americanism.

Palin is a rebel. Obama has been a go-along, get-along cog in the Daley Machine. She is Middle America. Obama, behind closed doors in San Francisco, mocked Middle Americans as folks left behind by the global economy who cling bitterly to their Bibles, bigotries and guns.

Obama has zero foreign policy experience. Palin runs a state that is home to anti-missile, missile and air defense bases facing the Far East, commands the Alaska National Guard and has a soldier-son heading for Iraq.

Obama, says the National Journal, has the most left-wing voting record in the Senate, besting Socialist Bernie Sanders. Palin's stances read as though they were lifted from Reagan's 1980 "no pale pastels" platform. And this is what this media firestorm is all about.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2008 2:09 PM | Report abuse

For months the media pounded Obama for not being policy specific (inspite of evidence to the contrary), complaining that he was using grand words instead of describing meat and potato issues...they basically towed Hillary's water because she too cried at the refs.

Palin then arrives on the scene, riding in on a caribou and not only is she completely let off the hook and kept in a bunker, but Republicans are crying-angry over how insensitive folks have been to little miss Alaska, sent to us on a mission from God.

Barack Obama needs to make it a fight between Democrats and Republicans, less about personality and he will.

Too much is at stake to allow another Republican, who is an impulsive, 72 year old, multiple crash-landing pilot, who doesn't know how many houses he owns or what the internet is, to lead us away from the disastrous policies of Republican George W Bush.

Posted by: exasperated | September 9, 2008 2:09 PM | Report abuse

Anonymous says "If Obama were smart he woulda had Chelsea get herself knocked up. Hillary ain't no GILF though." - What does that make Obama's mom? She was single, white, and a teenager when she got pregnant with Obama. Are you also implying Obama is not smart since Chelsea did become pregnant? Not sure how Sarah's daughter getting pregnant has anything to do with her being a good VP. Obama himself said if one of his daughters made a mistake he would want a way for them to correct it. Would it make you feel better if Sarah's daughter decided to have an abortion?

Not trying to pick on you Anonymous, and I hope do hope Obama does not do anything to get Chelsea pregnant, now that would be a scandal and of course I am sure produce yet another presidential candidate in 40+ years. Hey maybe that baby will marry one of the Bush babies :-). Ok enough!

Posted by: Comas | September 9, 2008 2:09 PM | Report abuse

Obama is in big trouble. He has no record so he was running on the Greek God platform and columns.
Well WE, the REAL WE THE PEOPLE, have had enough of unqualified and voted with Bush MOST OF THE TIME Obama.

WE, America, are throwing him under the bus!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2008 2:08 PM | Report abuse

Wake up people!!!! We already had 8 years of hell. Do you really want 4 more? McCain-Palin will continue to destroy our great country.

Posted by: Wakeup | September 9, 2008 2:08 PM | Report abuse

...a pretty face...Miss Congeniality ....cheerleader....blind date....empty suit...

Keep insulting Sarah Palin. Keep the backlash going. Push McCain over 50%. Talk about anything except what Obama wants you to talk about you silly moonbats. Brilliant.

Posted by: Razorback | September 9, 2008 2:08 PM | Report abuse

The Republicans have had what was, for them, a long-overdue good week. There has unquestionably been a bump for a candidate that had for most of the campaign given his constituency little to be enthusiastic about. Now we will see if the newly-born campaign has legs. They still have a lot of 'splainin' to do and I hope that fact will help restore some sanity to the election.

Posted by: dch | September 9, 2008 2:06 PM | Report abuse

who better to right the ship than the idiots who drove us into the iceberg.

Posted by: perplexed | September 9, 2008 1:52 PM

Dont agree with some stuff you put in there, but this line was pretty funny.

Posted by: Ryan | September 9, 2008 2:04 PM | Report abuse

CC says:

"But, there's little question that Obama would be far better served by turning the race into a referendum on the policy differences between him and McCain rather than the personality differences."

The snarling lying rumor and smear mongers of the left just refuse to play along. Obama wants to talk about the economy and his legions of idiots want to smear Sarah Palin, which helps McCain. Karl Rove must be laughing his a** off watching these moonbats eat their own young and do what McCain couldn't do himself.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2008 2:04 PM | Report abuse

obama is on the losing end of the issues...his issues are pelosi's and reid's issues and they are on the losing end of the issues...pelosi and reid want you to walk...no gas for you...

Posted by: Dwight | September 9, 2008 2:04 PM | Report abuse

"OBAMA ON LOSING END OF PERSONALITY CONTEST"

Seeing as how PERSONALITY is ALL he had... (and all you media cheerleaders allowed him to have) looks like he JUST LOST.

McCain is a true leader, Obama is a mannequin with a good voice. (Woops sorry, he's also a COMMUNITY ORGANIZER)

Posted by: indie | September 9, 2008 2:04 PM | Report abuse

A pretty face got Samson killed. The day after McCain made his Palin announcement, Limbaugh, on his radio show, stated, in effect, that this was a good choice because if anyone attacks Palin they would say that women are being attacked. This way, the right wingers would get their VP choice through the door without being scrutinized. This is what the right wingers would do to this country. This is an example of what little regard, in fact, they have for the country's business and the welfare of the children of this country.

Palin's special needs son is entitled to and has a RIGHT to the total and undivided time and attention of his parents. Additionally, the children of this country have a RIGHT to have the full and undivided time and attention of those leaders making life and death decisions about them. I don’t want a conflicted and distracted VP and President making life and death decisions about my children. I love my children too much, regardless of how Palin treats her son. Those, who are giving her accolades, are being very short sighted. If Palin can so easily make this decision about her son, what regard will she have for the children of others?

Distraction is deadly. Little Bush being distracted by Iraq has cost this country over four thousand lives of its youths, a trillion dollars ripped off the tax payers and an economy in shambles. For our dead youths, that's not fair to them or their families or indeed to this country. Additionally, our tendency to ignore the millions of innocent Iraqis including the wiped out Bagdad's Christians, who are also victims of Bush's distraction, adds to this debacle.

Finally, it is a pathetic ungodly spectacle to see the right wingers in this country so willingly sacrifice the welfare of a special needs child to the personal political ambitions of a seventy-two year old man, John McCain. The Reverend Wright is thereby vindicated totally and is owed an apology. He will never get it though because those, who are perpetrating this foul deed upon an innocent child, are blinded by their own wickedness and can’t see the “beam” protruding from their own eyes. Is John McCain really a hero? I ask, would a true hero cannibalize the time and attention from a two year old special needs child in order to advance his own personal political ambitions?

Posted by: Bigsky007 | September 9, 2008 2:03 PM | Report abuse

No, this is not a Miss Congeniality contest. But polling data from past elections demonstrates that voters react to and largely base their voting decisions on their perceived comfort with a candidate. And THAT comfort is rarely based on policy differences (unfortunately). So the smart thing for a candidate to do -- if that candidate is at all interested in winning -- is to pay close attention to and project only those personality features that resonate most strongly with voters.

Posted by: Observer | September 9, 2008 2:03 PM | Report abuse

The thing about personalities is that I find it shocking that the American people have fallen in love with a woman who has not said a positive word about anyone except in her own party. The woman is divisive and nasty towards anyone who disagrees with her and people are going gaga over her. What does that say about our society? I feel like I have been placed in a bad Jerry Springer episode.

Posted by: kayT | September 9, 2008 2:01 PM | Report abuse

Dude, idiots like you are changing the subject from what Obama wants to talk about. Keep up the good work. You can't contain your nuttiness, and you are going to put McCain in the White House.

Posted by: Razorback | September 9, 2008 1:59 PM | Report abuse

Jews have a word for that CHUTZPAH!!!

Posted by: madhatter | September 9, 2008 1:52 PM

Who cares about the Jews, we are dealing with an American Issue. In America when we dont like what your position is we have a saying, " Go back to your own Country".

Go McCain

Posted by: GO MCCAIN | September 9, 2008 1:58 PM | Report abuse

One groups of leftists on this blog whine about the debate not being about issues.
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Dude, its not about issues. Your guy's mouthpiece said so. Hey, does Johnny Mac speak for the campaign yet? We already know Palins been muzzled. Do you think they'll every let the poor pitbull tell us what she really thinks?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2008 1:57 PM | Report abuse

McCain didn't succeed in portraying Obama as a "vacuous celebrity". He ATTEMPTED to portray him that way. No one supporting Obama felt anything but contempt for those ads. You shouldn't state things as facts, when they're really only your GOP opinion, Chris. Obama supporters adore his thoughtful, intelligent personality. Whereas, Palin's personality is a massive turn-off to millions and millions of voters (females included). Believe it or not, there really ARE voters that don't admire a woman that enjoys shooting a moose in the face, shooting wolves from the air, lies about her record, is a religious fanatic, and hires and fires based on loyalty to the Governor Queen.

Posted by: DogBitez | September 9, 2008 1:57 PM | Report abuse

McCain said as someone points out below, "Become a teacher. Enter the ministry. Run for public office. Feed a hungry child. Teach an illiterate adult to read."

Uh... kind of sounds like some of the things Obama has done in his life that Republicans have criticized and made fun of.

So, which is it?

Posted by: Gary | September 9, 2008 1:57 PM | Report abuse

Buahaha...

Obama now trying to change the tone away from the "personality" aspect into the "issues?"

How do you think he "won" the primaries? All the garbage he spoke about was "change," "hope" with no specifics while branding everyone who didnt vote for him as a racist biggot.

We all knew the Republicans would have absolutely going where Hillary dared not to go in attacking Obama, and the boneheaded mistake of picking a meathead like Biden as a running mate is costing him at the polls, in the meantime McCain/Palin are now in a position to win the election - something unthinkable just a year ago.

Posted by: ABORT-OBAMA | September 9, 2008 1:56 PM | Report abuse

Thats right, moonbats. Attack and mock Sarah Palin's religious views. We need it. We need you to make sure every person in America who shares those views votes in November. Round them up and turn them out, moonbats.

Posted by: Razorback | September 9, 2008 1:56 PM | Report abuse

White America is lost.

A 'nice' white family, some Kodak moments and ridiculate the black man. This is all you need.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2008 1:56 PM | Report abuse

I hope that all Hispanic voters realize, that if Baracky Hussein Obama wins in November - they will be at the bottom of the barrel - Baracky Hussein Obama will have to pacify the black voters after gaining 99 % of their vote.

Democrats for John McCain in 2008

Posted by: Gary | September 9, 2008 1:53 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Nadeem Zakaria | September 9, 2008 1:17 PM


Can someone tell me if they think this is from a racist or I am just imagining ?

Posted by: julie | September 9, 2008 1:32 PM


Julie,

This is the real reason John McCain will win, there are still too many bigots that live in the US, they will come up with any excuse but the real one to not vote for Obama.

Republicans are like a little kid poking a bee hive and then when they get stung complain that the bee's arent playing fair. Until the Democrats truly grow a pair, a 3rd party emerges, or we become Chinese citizens, this will be the way it is.

When we become Chinese because of all the money we are borrowing to fight this war, the Republicans will somehow try to pin it on the Democrats.

Amazingly enough, they agree they need a change from the republicans that caused the current fiasco, who better to right the ship than the idiots who drove us into the iceberg.

Posted by: perplexed | September 9, 2008 1:52 PM | Report abuse

One groups of leftists on this blog whine about the debate not being about issues.

Another group of leftists on this blog post garbage like this: "If Obama were smart he woulda had Chelsea get herself knocked up. Hillary ain't no GILF though. Palin wins that one hands down."

Until the leftists who want the debate to about issues can get the leftists who post that kind of garbage to shut up, McCain will keep going up in the polls.

Posted by: Razorback | September 9, 2008 1:52 PM | Report abuse

I really liked this setup:

The performance by candidate from best to worst:
McCain
Biden
Palin
Obama

However, I disagree with the order. It should be:

Biden
McCain
Obama
Palin

I have reasons for my opinion - Biden even though he's younger than McCain has much more political experience. Most of Palin's experience has been as a sports newscaster - which she was very good at.

Barack actually has some experience in politics - while Palin being Senator Stevens protegee as governor of Alaska doesn't mean she was running her own ship. And her success as mayor of that big 5,000 suburb doesn't match being in the Senate of the Federal government or the state of Illinois.

Posted by: Jack | September 9, 2008 1:52 PM | Report abuse

The Barack Obama campaign looks like it's comming apart at the seams when they try to slime Sarah Palins character and reputation--now even trying to cheap shot her religion and religious convictions. What they're forgetting is their tin-foil little god's Barack Obama's own. Let me see now. Barack and Michelle Obama were members and supporters of a church, Trinity United for Christ, for more than 20 years that was advocating and teaching their members to hate all white people and to hate America. As we all have seen on the Trinity's own tapes, the entire membership was cheering, applauding, hallejuhaing, amening, and high-fiving every vile racist word of Obama's friend, mentor and Pastor Jerimiah Wright Jr.'s who was, like Adolph Hitler, working the crowd to hysteria. It's a safe bet that whenever Barack and Michelle Obama where in their front row pew every Sunday for these 20 years, they did what the rest of that concregation did, go crazy with admiration and agreement with what was being said. With Barack Obama's racist 20 year history of supporting a church that was basically teaching from the Nation of Islam leaders Louis Farrakhan's playbook of racial hatred of all white devils and hatred for our country, the Obamanites are now trying to slime Sarah Palin's religion and religious convictions??? Jews have a word for that CHUTZPAH!!!

Posted by: madhatter | September 9, 2008 1:52 PM | Report abuse

This is not Miss Congeniality contest.

Posted by: mzbond | September 9, 2008 1:51 PM | Report abuse

That was before you leftist moonbats managed to do what McCain could not: Energize the Republican base.
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Has GILF Palin figured out what the VP does yet? I bet she steps down when Johnny Mac treats her like Danny Q instead of like Dickey C.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2008 1:50 PM | Report abuse

Keep it up moonbats, McCain-Palin would not be where they are today but for your assistance.
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If Obama were smart he woulda had Chelsea get herself knocked up. Hillary ain't no GILF though. Palin wins that one hands down.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2008 1:48 PM | Report abuse

Yes, rabid Republicans used to have some reservations about McCain. That was before you leftist moonbats managed to do what McCain could not: Energize the Republican base.

Great job, moonbats, McCain could not have done it without you.

Posted by: Razorback | September 9, 2008 1:46 PM | Report abuse

Palin is very well packaged politically - unless, of course, the media digs deep and takes the RNC wrapping off. I doubt if she'll ever do Face the Nation or Meet the Press as that is far above the lady's head.

McCain will continue with his POW theme. Actually that's about all he has for the average American. There is no way his campaign will disclose his welfare for the rich plans.

So we have well packaged candidates, limiting their exposure and commitments to the average American. If they win we'll end up with the best package that PR can deliver, but who knows what else.

Posted by: Ken | September 9, 2008 1:45 PM | Report abuse

To suggest that Obama has lost the personality contest misses an important point.

On candidate in this race has completely sold out. He abandoned his position on immigration and climate change to adopt the Bush position. He abandoned his distaste for the agents of intolerance in his own party and signed up a religious extremist that doesn't believe in evolution, doesn't believe in sex-education for kids and won't allow choice even in the case of incest or rape.
He abandoned his call for a high minded campaign and actually signed up some of the same Rove / Bush team that slandered him in 2000.

All that tells me a lot about McCain's personality.

In contrast, Obama has stayed true to who he is. He hasn't changed his positions. He called for a principled campaign and has stuck to that -- no slandering his opponents. He called for a well organized campaign with no drama and that's what his campaign produced.

And even now, we have McCain and company lying about their position on certain issues like earmarks -- saying Palin was against them when she wasn't.

There's a broader personality contest going where we see just how much the candidates are going to lie and stretch the truth, and abandon who they are for the sake of winning.

This is a personality contest that tells us about Obama and McCain's character.

In that contest, McCain is losing badly.

I'm astonished by this. I once said to my friends, if Hillary wins, I'll vote McCain -- at least he has integrity. Well, one benefit of this long campaign. I've learned he clearly doesn't, and that makes him unfit to be President.

Posted by: wappinne | September 9, 2008 1:45 PM | Report abuse

His message has been "hope" and "unity." He decries "the politics of hate," yet practices the politics of destruction of a 17-year-old girl. Where is the hope in that? Obama is a fraud.
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The fraud is you, sucka. Obama didn't create the problem of Palin's kid. He said the kid was off limits, then Palin prances her about on stage to sell herself to the suckas that think she's competent to take over for Dick.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2008 1:45 PM | Report abuse

Here's an interesting quote:

"John McCain's campaign manager said this campaign is not going to be about the issues. That was his assertion. Well, I think that the American people expect it to be about the issues. They deserve it to be about the issues. That's what we're going to keep on pressing in the weeks that will remain." - Sen. Obama

I agree. Let's start talking issues.

Sen. Obama, why don't you start? Oh, you'd rather just complain about it?

Just pointing out that NEITHER candidate has really talked about the issues.

Sen. Obama actually has talked about the issues less and has done more bashing than Sen. McCain. Don't believe me? Check out both candidates at their conventions.

Sen. Obama slammed McCain and the republicans over 30 times.

Sen. McCain slammed Obama and the Democrats 11 times.

Posted by: Step Up To The Plate | September 9, 2008 1:44 PM | Report abuse

With Obama, once you get by the personality he's just an empty suit with no record of leadership. The American people are beginning to realize this.

Posted by: JMD | September 9, 2008 1:44 PM | Report abuse

I love it when left wing moon bats attack Karl Rove.

The people in Zaneville, OH do not know or care about Karl Rove. They care about what is going on in their own lives, not goofy left wing conspiracies about Karl Rove that they have never heard of.

Keep it up moonbats, McCain-Palin would not be where they are today but for your assistance.

Posted by: Razorback | September 9, 2008 1:44 PM | Report abuse

The ultimate problem that John McCain faces in this election is that he is going to have to create a dual reality.

By positioning himself as "the real change agent", he must now simultaneously be the natural successor to the Bush legacy while convincing the middle that he is their savior from that same legacy.

I don't envy him that task in the long term. With seven weeks to go until election day, and three one-on-one confrontations with Barack Obama, he has to hold both those lines.

The nomination of Sarah Palin helps, until you have to ask what role will she play in a McCain administration. She certainly can't walk in and take the mantle of legislative juggernaut from Dick Cheney, not with no experience in D.C., no first-hand knowledge of procedure, and facing a Democratic majority that will give new meaning to the phrase "Hostile Congress."

In the end, what may cost McCain this election is the fact that his agenda may never get off the ground. He'll be up against a Congress that will be as much, if not more adversarial than Newt Gingrich's "Contract With America" Congress was with Bill Clinton.

Posted by: JamesCH | September 9, 2008 1:43 PM | Report abuse

How amusing that the rabid republicans used to not like the guy who voted against bush's tax cuts, sponsored an amnesty bill, called their theocrats 'agents of intolerance' and squelched free speech with his signature campaign finance bill. Then the guy picks a GILF as a running mate and they can't get enough of him. What a bunch of ingnoramuses.

Funny thing is, the old johnny mac will probably come back if he manages to win the election. You suckas been PLAYED!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2008 1:42 PM | Report abuse

JM wrote: "If ordinary (i.e., non-rich, non-powerful) Americans voted their economic and relative-power interests, they would choose candidates who credibly promise to reverse income- and power differentials. The Republicans, representing the "haves," would lose because most Americans are "have-nots."

Stop the Lies. The MOST unequal and segregated places in the country are under Democratic governments. Period.

The most racially segregated. The most unequal in income. The most rigged, most corrupt, most hypocritical areas are Democratic bastions.

Let's stop the Democratic Limousine Liberal lies about how we should "vote in our economic interest." Points of Reference: Joe Biden Junior HEDGE fund. Chelsea Clinton: Hedge Fund. Obama: Prep school, Ivy colleges, $300,000 job for wifey to boot poor folks out of the hospital with ANOTHER sweet payoff to Stuy High Guy campaign manager.

I know that urbanite liberals are somewhat foolish. But are you so stupid as to think, after all the endless Pennsylvania and MidWestern interviews, to think that working folks, for whom decisions mean life or death (and not which Greek isle to choose for vacation), are so stupid as to believe the Democratic party propaganda?

Charles Rangel, Tax Man, St. John's Law, African American, "for the people" FOUR primary residences. No interest loan on his Dominican condo. Income not reported.

Dem William Jefferson, $90,000 in cash payoff hidden in his freezer. Harvard Law family members indicted and under investigation.

Dem Eliot Spitzer, Millionaire.

Dem Jon Corzine. Billionaire hiking taxes for average New Jerseyan.

Spare the Democrat "vote in your economic interest" line. We KNOW they do. For every Loophole, Tax Break for themselves and their buddies, even for the Pork Laden Farm Bill (can you say Iowa put me first, Obama)

Yes, the "rubes" aren't so "uneducated" or "ignorant" after all.

Posted by: Democrat Equals Unequal | September 9, 2008 1:42 PM | Report abuse

Obama is on the defense since the RNC and the Palin selection. In football, when your on defense, there's a saying for defensive backs that states, "if they're even, they're leaving'" Which means you're toast if the receiver is on you - you're essentially beat. Barack needs to understand this - fast! He needs to understand that it's not just what you say, but how you say it. His words from Denver resonated with the public. Since RNC, he is speaking in lawyerly terms. Enough! Show strength, show focus, few words and more emotion. Attack McCain by stating what you plan to do. Speak in an active voice and not a passive voice. We are people who need inspiration, not students taking notes. Fight for us, for America. God knows we all need it.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2008 1:42 PM | Report abuse

Louise - I just liked your post and wanted it to cut and paste it again.

So Chris, this is the new meme? Obama has a bad personality? So soon after Obama was nothing but an overly-popular celebrity?

(Don't you feel kind of silly sometimes?)

There are millions of people out here who think that John McCain is an old, corrupt, adulterous, misogynistic, foul-tempered, flip-flopping, clueless, war-monger who wants to win more than he cares about the security of his country -- as shown by his VP pick.

And millions who think that Palin is a hypocritical, imperious, lightweight (who knows since they won't let her talk?), lying, corrupt, oil company shill, theocratic, Stepford female, Right Wing, over-the-hill Cheerleader -- married to a man-boy, college drop-out traitor.

There's a NEW meme for you!

But, seriously -- your little story/blog should be about how all of this has angered and fired up the DEMOCRATIC base. And we were pretty hot before. Now we are dislike these folks with the heat of a million suns. Dems don't get angry quickly -- but when we do -- watch out!

You press folks like to stir things up -- you are very happy -- OK. Now report on Democratic fury!

Posted by: Louise

Posted by: 2008 | September 9, 2008 1:41 PM | Report abuse

mnteng, Obama's problem is that he has lost control of his message to left wing hate mongers, like the ones on this blog who mock her religious values and dismiss her as a "cheerleader".

Obama and Biden are much to smart to do something that stupid, but the left wing hate mongers are just stupid enough to rise to the bait.

Posted by: Razorback | September 9, 2008 1:41 PM | Report abuse

I used to support Barack Obama. Not any more.

His message has been "hope" and "unity." He decries "the politics of hate," yet practices the politics of destruction of a 17-year-old girl. Where is the hope in that? Obama is a fraud.

John McCain deserves to be President, and America deserves the fresh outlook of Sarah Palin. Character does indeed count.

Posted by: Mark in Seattle | September 9, 2008 1:40 PM | Report abuse

Who writes these headlines? Karl Rove?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2008 1:40 PM | Report abuse

I like Obama. He is relaxed, easy going and handsome - qualities typical of a surfer from Hawai used to "riding the waves". He rode the system and political waves with ease, helped along by the winds of the media. Than out of nowhere a tough reef from Alaska broke the waves - wait a minute, this is supposed to be warm, sunny Hawai. The surf is down dude, show us you can swimm.

Posted by: Voice2 | September 9, 2008 1:39 PM | Report abuse

Hey NC John,

It seems you'd love to do those things if any of them were easy and convenient and were in total alignment with all of your beliefs. Gee, thanks for stepping up to the plate.

I hear no mention of sacrifice, only excuses, blame, and insults. You are the perfect Obama voter...and what the Dems are counting on and have always counted on...voters short on courage and big on fear, short on solutions and big on complaints, short on compassion and full of hate. Class Warfare and Bush Hatred is the Democratic platform. Looking for Big Government to solve all your problems? Then, you're in the wrong place. We are a people of independence and meritocracy.

By the way, I am not rich, not religious, and not in agreement with every detail McCain/Palin stand for. But I do put my country and fellow citizens first.

And I will help keep my state from turning blue.

Posted by: Brian | September 9, 2008 1:38 PM | Report abuse

Lou R,

I see your post took a lot of thinking.

Posted by: sltiowa | September 9, 2008 1:38 PM | Report abuse

jm917, maybe these people whose values you detest would start voting for your candidates if people like you and your candidates would stop calling them stupid. Or, as Gov. Palin said, we prefer candidates who do not say one thing about us in Scranton, and a different thing in San Fransicso.

Posted by: Razorback | September 9, 2008 1:37 PM | Report abuse

So Chris, this is the new meme? Obama has a bad personality? So soon after Obama was nothing but an overly-popular celebrity?

(Don't you feel kind of silly sometimes?)

There are millions of people out here who think that John McCain is an old, corrupt, adulterous, misogynistic, foul-tempered, flip-flopping, clueless, war-monger who wants to win more than he cares about the security of his country -- as shown by his VP pick.

And millions who think that Palin is a hypocritical, imperious, lightweight (who knows since they won't let her talk?), lying, corrupt, oil company shill, theocratic, Stepford female, Right Wing, over-the-hill Cheerleader -- married to a man-boy, college drop-out traitor.

There's a NEW meme for you!

But, seriously -- your little story/blog should be about how all of this has angered and fired up the DEMOCRATIC base. And we were pretty hot before. Now we are dislike these folks with the heat of a million suns. Dems don't get angry quickly -- but when we do -- watch out!

You press folks like to stir things up -- you are very happy -- OK. Now report on Democratic fury!

Posted by: Louise | September 9, 2008 1:36 PM | Report abuse

Obama on losing end of personality contest?
And you are telling us about this . . . because?
Because it's news?
Because our president is now no more than a beauty queen?
Reagan - an actor.
G.W. - a dry drunk.
Cheney - a warmongering sociopath.
Palin - a cheerleader.

And you dare to imply that there is some importance to this disgraceful pageant?

Why aren't you doing your job, Balz, and reminding America that issues DO matter?
Will you wait until YOUR job is under threat before you fall out of love with Mrs. Palin and actually analyze what she and McCain are offering Americans?

Obama is a decent man with an excellent brain and the ability to communicate with people from anywhere.
But that's clearly not good enough for us.
We have to have the John Wayne factor, or the Marlon Brando factor or the freakin' Max Factor.
We are so stupid, and I expect our next president will reflect that.
A new breed of humiliating anti-American comedies will soon be in our movie theaters.

Posted by: wardropper | September 9, 2008 1:36 PM | Report abuse

It seems many American are easily conned via mindless rantings and lies from the likes of FOX Commentary and conservative talk radio. Thinking require effort so many take the easy road of becoming a bobbing head. As for me, personality can be a huge turnoff; examples include the ever emerging personality of sinner McCain and the glamorous Pentecostal Palin

Posted by: Lou R | September 9, 2008 1:35 PM | Report abuse

Julie,

Nadeem's remarks were both racist and tasteless. No it was not your imagination.

Posted by: dnbraggs | September 9, 2008 1:34 PM | Report abuse

John McSame picked an ethics challenged creationist cheerleader (Palin) as his running-mate and now Palin won't talk to the press (and we all know why) yet she gets up and makes some dumbass speech everyday where she's calling out Democrats, Obama, Biden etc....and the freaking corporate media runs with it?!?!

Where the hell does she get off calling out ANYONE when she's to damn afraid of having to go off script (Charlie Gibson?...pleeeease) and answer some questions from the media? And there are a LOT of questions she needs to answer to...

I know in these tough economic times it's sometimes hard to remember how many houses you own but C'mon Corporate Media, Do Your Damn Job For Once

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxT0s_I5WtA
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Posted by: McCain + Palin = Bush's third term | September 9, 2008 1:34 PM | Report abuse

JD,

Still here trying to be rational? Props to you.

The POW/Everymom storyline is indeed a powerful one. It will be hard for BHO to that story push aside, as he must, and make the campaign about the issues. McC's campaign was also savvy in trying to pick up the "change" mantra. He doesn't need to completely co-opt BHO's "change" theme; he just needs to get enough people to buy into the idea that he could potentially be a "change" agent. That, in addition to winning the personality battle, might just be enough to give McC the win.

If BHO doesn't start pushing back harder, and soon, he's going to be in a big hole.

Posted by: mnteng | September 9, 2008 1:33 PM | Report abuse

Ain't life grand. Obama was the "flavor of the month" from November of 2007, through August of 2008. Now someone else is the "flavor of the month", and the libs whine and whine and whine. The viciousness of the attacks on Palen and the whining on this blog reek with the stench of desparation.

Posted by: Razorback | September 9, 2008 1:33 PM | Report abuse

Nadeem wrote:
I love it! The devotees of Barry Hussein (aka Senator Purple Lips) are wetting themselves. The black messiah's popularity is dropping in the polls and they are worried. I suspect that they will be jumping from windows come Novemeber 4th. I think their new campaing slogan should be "Yes we can?". LOL!

Posted by: Nadeem Zakaria | September 9, 2008 1:17 PM


Can someone tell me if they think this is from a racist or I am just imagining ?

Posted by: julie | September 9, 2008 1:32 PM | Report abuse

Obama will lose every war. But, the MSM and Chicago machine may win the election. There's nothing that will stop that quest for victory. The cult of the clueless demands no less.

Posted by: Veteran | September 9, 2008 1:31 PM | Report abuse

Senator Obama seems to have painted himself into a corner. He has no record of accomplishing any real change ... even as a "community organizer". He has no experience running anything, much less the executive branch of a government. He has written no significant legislation. He has no firm and specific policies ... he wanted to pull out of Iraq as soon as he got into office, but that has now changed ... he wanted to end the Bush tax cuts, but that has now changed ... and he has even admitted that if we go into a recession, the economy will be hurt by ending the Bush tax cuts ... he was committed to the failure of the surge in Iraq, but now he has changed his tune and now calls it a great success. Senator Obama's whole platform is based on his celebrity, rockstar-like personality. And now he is struggling badly in his attempts to accuse the McCain/Palin ticket of being all about personality. Most thinking Americans are now seeing through this facade.

Posted by: R.W. Destiny | September 9, 2008 1:29 PM | Report abuse

Modern Republicans (that is, since Nixon) always do this; it's the only way they can win national elections. If ordinary (i.e., non-rich, non-powerful) Americans voted their economic and relative-power interests, they would choose candidates who credibly promise to reverse income- and power differentials. The Republicans, representing the "haves," would lose because most Americans are "have-nots."

The trick is to get the have-nots to vote for candidates representing the status quo (that is, existing divisions of wealth and power) on cultural and personality issues. And so modern Republicans always gin up contrasts between their candidates who are "heroes" and "just-folks" and Democratic candidates who are represented as "cultural elites" or racial/cultural "others."

Usually it's a contest that Democrats can't win.

I know that I'm simplifying; as you look more closely, a lot more complications appear. But this is the model.

Just think about how the McCain/Palin vs. Obama/Biden contest has developed, and you'll see how Chris's question works out in practice.

Posted by: jm917 | September 9, 2008 1:29 PM | Report abuse

PHAIL> The main stream media doesn't care about the issues, it's a beauty contest and Obama better realize this NOW. Let us not talk about plattitudes, let the plattitudes talk about us.

Posted by: NotAfraidOfRobots | September 9, 2008 1:27 PM | Report abuse

This time last week, left wing hate mongers were telling lies about Sarah Palin and speculating when Palin would be dropped from the ticket. One week later Palin has changed the election and left wing hate mongers like Matthews and Olberman have been dropped from their anchor posts. Whine on.

Posted by: Razorback | September 9, 2008 1:27 PM | Report abuse

When choosing a president/vice president, we should consider policy, personality, and performance. I will opt for the latter every time. And here's the list I come up with on performance by candidate from best to worst:
McCain
Biden
Palin
Obama.
The chasm between the top and bottom two is endless; but Palin is running for veep whist Obama is trying to take charge of the whole shebang. What could be worse than having an empty suit in the White House? Having an empty suit in the White House with Reed and Pelosi me-tooing his every far left whim. So, let's have the best performer in the WH and maybe the spineless Dem majority in Congress will use its constitutional right to fillibuster and override vetoes if he goes too far to the right, something they haven't been willing to do thus far with Bush.

Posted by: jayjay9 | September 9, 2008 1:26 PM | Report abuse

This election is too important to be about personality rather than the issues, and McCain/Palin are wrong on all of them.

That said, I would still rather "have a beer" (or a glass of wine, given the elitist claims) with Obama than McCain or Palin. I have much more in common with someone who had to rely on scholarships and student loans to get through school and who can talk NBA trade rumors with me as well as foreign affairs. Moreover, I imagine interesting and quality conversation from someone who was the editor of the Harvard Law review and is an expert on constitutional law, and is well-traveled and well-read. And I respect his need to eat healthily and exercise...statistically speaking, minorities in this nation are plagued by obesity and related health problems, and it's about time to set a better example.

Then again, I've never understood why being "elite" (i.e. the best qualified) is a BAD thing for the person who wants to be leader of the free world. I've never bought into the whole demonization of the well-educated (don't we rely on academic elites to do the cutting edge research we need for innovation?) I don't think we should strive to be average. My parents didn't risk their lives to bring me to this country for that, and I in turn want only the best for my own kids' futures.

We need to stop feeling defensive and inferior and get over these personality-based reservations regarding Obama. Policy-wise he already supports the best policies to serve the middle class.

Posted by: Lourdes | September 9, 2008 1:23 PM | Report abuse

The country's blind date with Palin is over, and now its time to ponder if we want to see her again.

-- Answer: YES. I want to see her again. A lot of her in office.

Posted by: Fuji | September 9, 2008 1:23 PM | Report abuse

The change I hope to see is not in the realm of personality or political policy. The change I hope for is in the realm of habits of racism, bigotry, and social injustice.

The American people regardless of party affiliations: Democrats, Republican, Independent and Green party are in the habit of practicing every thing except the ideas set forth in the Declaration of Independence, the nation's Creed. The habit of practicing racism, gender bias and ethnocentrism (white skinned, therefore, entitled)is at the core of the country's woes: poverty, poor educational performance among our school children form Kindergarten through the University, crime and being held in low global esteem.

Americans need to change the nation's not only our politics in Washington but our whole way of life.

Barack Obama is America's litmus test. He is the Job of the 21st century. As a Christian nation, I pray to God that we pass the test and that Christopher Hitchens might write another book entitled: God is good; God is GREAT; AND, we thank him for our country!

Posted by: Maia Ajanaku-Locke | September 9, 2008 1:23 PM | Report abuse

Everyday, when I read the Washington Post, I look for coverage of Biden.

Since Palin announced there really hasn't been any, there has hardly been coverage of Obama.

Why?

Posted by: Jake McMann | September 9, 2008 1:22 PM | Report abuse

Such a misleading title.

The latest poll I saw that asked who likely voters thought had the better personality and temperament to be president: Obama 57% McCain 36%.

And frankly, who would YOU rather have a beer with?

I bet McCain's an angry drunk anyway.

Posted by: el_barto | September 9, 2008 1:21 PM | Report abuse

Please, do us a favore and let people decide in this election and stop pushing "the One" into our throat.
Posted by: nancy sabet | September 9, 2008 1:00 PM

I will push the one deeper in your throat Nancy and you will like it. Quit being such a Nancy, oh wait....hahaha

Go MCcain 09'

Posted by: GO MCCAIN | September 9, 2008 1:20 PM | Report abuse

fallwalleyes, the people who changed the subject away from what Obama wanted to talk about were the vicious left wing liars who attacked Sarah Palin. Sorry Barack, if you run with dogs, you get flees.

Posted by: Razorback | September 9, 2008 1:20 PM | Report abuse

Everyday, when I read the Washington Post, I look for coverage of Biden.

Since Palin announced, I can't any, I can barely find coverage of Obama.

Why?

Posted by: Stool McMann | September 9, 2008 1:20 PM | Report abuse

The change I hope to see is not in the realm of personality or political policy. The change I hope for is in the realm of habits of racism, bigotry, and social injustice.

The American people regardless of party affiliations: Democrats, Republican, Independent and Green party are in the habit of practicing every thing except the ideas set forth in the Declaration of Independence, the nation's Creed. The habit of practicing racism, gender bias and ethnocentrism (white skinned, therefore, entitled)is at the core of the country's woes: poverty, poor educational performance among our school children form Kindergarten through the University, crime and being held in low global esteem.

Americans need to change the nation's not only our politics in Washington but our whole way of life.

Barack Obama is America's litmus test. He is the Job of the 21st century. As a Christian nation, I pray to God that we pass the test and that Christopher Hitchens might write another book entitled: God is good; God is GREAT; AND, we thank him for our country!

Posted by: Maia Ajanaku-Locke | September 9, 2008 1:19 PM | Report abuse

The facts remain the same, that the republicans are stirring up trouble because they don't have anything new. So let's throw in a wild card to get people's minds off the real issues. The republicans are scared and have nothing to offer. People are tired of what has been going on for the last 8 years and they are ready to speak up and put and end to it.

Posted by: fallwalleyes | September 9, 2008 1:17 PM | Report abuse

The Keating Five were five United States Senators accused of corruption in 1989, igniting a major political scandal as part of the larger Savings and Loan crisis of the late 1980s and early 1990s. The five senators, Alan Cranston (D-CA), Dennis DeConcini (D-AZ), John Glenn (D-OH), John McCain (R-AZ), and Donald W. Riegle (D-MI), were accused of improperly aiding Charles H. Keating, Jr., chairman of the failed Lincoln Savings and Loan Association, which was the target of an investigation by the Federal Home Loan Bank Board (FHLBB).

The U.S. Savings and Loan crisis of the 1980s and 1990s was the failure of 747 savings and loan associations (S&Ls) in the United States. The ultimate cost of the crisis is estimated to have totaled around $160.1 billion, about $124.6 billion of which was directly paid for by the U.S. taxpayer.[1].

The concomitant slowdown in the finance industry and the real estate market may have been a contributing cause of the 1990-1991 economic recession. Between 1986 and 1991, the number of new homes constructed per year dropped from 1.8 million to 1 million, the lowest rate since World War II.[2]

The Keating Five scandal was prompted by the activities of one particular savings and loan: Lincoln Savings and Loan Association of Irvine, California. Lincoln's chairman was Charles Keating, who ultimately served five years in prison for his corrupt mismanagement of Lincoln.[3] In the four years since Keating's American Continental Corporation (ACC) had purchased Lincoln in 1984, Lincoln's assets had increased from $1.1 billion to $5.5 billion.[4] Such savings and loan associations had been deregulated in the early 1980s, allowing them to make highly risky investments with their depositors' money, a change of which Keating took advantage.[4] Lincoln's investments took the form of buying land, taking equity positions in real estate development projects, and buying high-yield junk bonds.[5]

McCain and Keating had become personal friends following their initial contacts in 1981.[8] Between 1982 and 1987, McCain had received $112,000 in political contributions from Keating and his associates.[14] In addition, McCain's wife Cindy McCain and her father Jim Hensley had invested $359,100 in a Keating shopping center in April 1986, a year before McCain met with the regulators. McCain, his family, and their baby-sitter had made nine trips at Keating's expense, sometimes aboard Keating's jet. Three of the trips were made during vacations to Keating's opulent Bahamas retreat at Cat Cay. McCain did not pay Keating (in the amount of $13,433) for some of the trips until years after they were taken, when he learned that Keating was in trouble over Lincoln.[6][15]

The core allegation of the Keating Five affair is that Keating had made contributions of about $1.3 million to various U.S. Senators, and he called on those Senators to help him resist regulators. The regulators backed off, to later disastrous consequences.

Posted by: TruthBearer | September 9, 2008 1:17 PM | Report abuse

Pj45 writes: “Aspergirl, you are fortunate indeed that the United States does not have a death penalty for habitual liars. Sadly for the rest of us, you go on....”

I think the same could be said about a lot of people on this blog both left and right. Its a good thing there is no death penalty on habitual liars for all our presidential candidates would be dead. But the rhetoric goes on and on...

Posted by: sltiowa | September 9, 2008 1:17 PM | Report abuse

I love it! The devotees of Barry Hussein (aka Senator Purple Lips) are wetting themselves. The black messiah's popularity is dropping in the polls and they are worried. I suspect that they will be jumping from windows come Novemeber 4th. I think their new campaing slogan should be "Yes we can?". LOL!

Posted by: Nadeem Zakaria | September 9, 2008 1:17 PM | Report abuse

It's hard not to be impressed with how quickly the Republicans have changed the election from a referendum on 8 years of Republican rule to a much more personality oriented race.

Impressed... and disappointed.

It's rarely discussed (though I did take in a few minutes of the Lou Dobb's windbag show discussing it), but one of the under the radar legacies Bush and his party have left us is a much more dysfunctional government. You have read for years now of the hiring of individuals for political sentiments and of the retiring or firing of otherwise well-respected career government officials.

Anyone who has worked for boss who hires poorly knows that the company suffers. So does government. Wonder why the FDA can't figure out what is causing food poisoning? Wonder why government agencies are less efficient? Wonder why FEMA was unprepared for Katrina? Folks... this is a no brainer.

I for one cannot see fit to giving the Republicans or John McCain a congratulatory vote for their performance. War hero or not, I do not believe he represents a shift in tone and I do not think he will surround himself with the best and brightest.

I'm OK if we elect someone I wouldn't want to have a beer with this time around. I have enough drinking friends.

Posted by: Rick | September 9, 2008 1:14 PM | Report abuse

Lets debate the economy.

If Obama really cared about what the middle class is paying for energy, why does he propose to force middle class consumers to buy "alternative" energy when "alternative" energy costs 3 or 4 times as much as energy generated from coal?

Does increasing middle class ratepayers electric bills really help the economy?

Posted by: Razorback | September 9, 2008 1:13 PM | Report abuse

WHY PAID "DISINFO" AGENTS "MOB" WA-PO BLOGS...

Earlier today, a poster to either the Fix or the Trail remarked that the site was being "mobbed."

That is a gang-stalking term for descending upon the environs of the "targets" of their harassment, whether it be a public place like a store or a web site in cyberspace.

The lingo kind of tell us something...

The paid disinformation specialists fear the First Amendment and the free expression of ideas, which is why they are "mobbing" the WaPo blogs.

So Cillizza, Kornblut, Balz, Broder, et. al. -- keep up the good work!

Posted by: Outside the Box | September 9, 2008 1:13 PM | Report abuse

Obama On The Losing End of Personality Contest (??) definition: LOSER.

Posted by: pgr88 | September 9, 2008 1:13 PM | Report abuse

very interesting! the candidate whose entire summer campaign was based around accusing the other of being a "vacuous celebrity" is now trying to win the contest based not on substance but on personality.

the cynicism is breathtaking.

Posted by: SDM | September 9, 2008 1:12 PM | Report abuse

It never ceases to amaze (and disappoint me)how shallow most American voters are. In 2000 they wanted someone they could have a beer with. They see how that turned out but yet they are back to voting with their gut, not their brains. When Obama says he has faith in the American people, I hope he doesn't mean it because the average voter won't take the time to understand actual issues and instead vote on superficialities. They don't want someone smarter than they are, they want someone with whom they identify, no matter how mediocre that is. So, for me, this is the last election that I will invest in with my heart and money. People just don't care and we get the government we deserve.

Posted by: Sharon | September 9, 2008 1:12 PM | Report abuse

Aspergirl, you are fortunate indeed that the United States does not have a death penalty for habitual liars. Sadly for the rest of us, you go on....

Posted by: pj45 | September 9, 2008 1:11 PM | Report abuse

I just don't get it... if anyone truly with an open mind listened to both conventions.... The DNC speeches were mostly about the issues and proposed solution... the RNC convention was mostly about attacks and sarcasm... NO issues were discussed. How can anyone walk away asking... what is Obama saying about the issues??? We need to STOP repeating the spins and LISTEN... be an independent thinker... make up your own mind, but please make sure you listen to Both parties with an open mind ... first.

Posted by: nerakami | September 9, 2008 1:11 PM | Report abuse

Nancy,

Absolutely everything you wrote can be used to describe Sarah Palin. Obama detractors constantly say that his supporters blindly followed him after hearing a speech or two. That's exactly what's happening here. She's an under-qualified "empty suit." It won't be long until she's questioned.

Nancy wrote:

Obama's personality is fake and fraud. Media tried to create a candidate out of him and people have began to understand and question him. Please, do us a favore and let people decide in this election and stop pushing "the One" into our throat.

Posted by: Charlotte | September 9, 2008 1:10 PM | Report abuse

Why don't we debate the economy:

"WASHINGTON — Democrat Barack Obama says he would delay rescinding President Bush's tax cuts on wealthy Americans if he becomes the next president and the economy is in a recession, suggesting such an increase would further hurt the economy."

Didn't Obama try to say that these Bush tax cuts were a problem for the economy? And now they cannot be recinded because they would hurt the econonmy? If the Bush tax cuts were for the rich, then taxing the rich must hurt the econonmy. So that is what Obama really thinks. Maybe some of you libs can help explain why taxing the rich hurts the economy.

Posted by: Razorback | September 9, 2008 1:09 PM | Report abuse

anyone you is hoping that Palin will self destruct herself in this interview is fooling himself.
By now i'm sure they trained her to memorize some one liners, talking points and generic answers (just like in beauty pageants) so as not to screw up badly. What's the worst that can come out of this interview? That she doesn't have deep knowledge on some issues to analyze it for hours? Who cares. Most voters already know that. Moreover, those who will vote for that ticket don't even want to hear long answers. All they want to hear is that she is for cutting taxes, against abortion, will take on special interests, and drill baby drill.

Posted by: thor | September 9, 2008 1:08 PM | Report abuse

George Dixon,

I'm sorry but have you been keeping up with all the evidence regarding the case that George W. Bush failed to act when briefed on the possibility that terrorists would attack on American soil. It wasn't a Democrat who failed to attack and was serving as President when the towers fell. On 9/11 let's choose to support the Democratic candidate who actually has the mental capacity to strategize and keep us more safe in a myriad of ways. It was Democrats who passed the Crime bill that lowered crime. It is Democrats who will ensure we that health care is accessible and affordable It is Democrats who reverse policies whereby rape victims are charged $1200 for their rape kits-- rape kits which collect and provide the evidence needed to charge the rapists(very nice,btw, Palin.) It's ridiculous that Republicans are blaming Democrats for the disastrous results of the Bush admin. Sheesh!

Posted by: Char Broiled | September 9, 2008 1:07 PM | Report abuse

TO: Mssrs. CHERTOFF, MUKASEY, PAULSON, GATES, McCONNELL, MUELLER

"GOV'T AGENCIES SUPPORT DOMESTIC TERRORISM"
http://www.nowpublic.com/world/government-agencies-support-domestic-torture-and-gang-stalking-says-noted-nowpublic-com-columnist

What do you know about this, and what are you doing about it?

Posted by: scrivener | September 9, 2008 1:07 PM | Report abuse

By the way, if you remember, obambi NEVER WON THE PRIMARY, he is media nominee and people are not buying him. He was born a star over night and will die over night. He is history already.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2008 1:05 PM | Report abuse

I read most of the stories on the web and I have at all times have at least 2 TV's on different 24hour news station. You can pic on the republican's all day but I haven't yet seen Mr.Obama give any kind of a reasoniable speech with facts on what he is going to do for this country.. The one thing I do get is that he wants to fix the world first and not worry about this country.He's sound's like he's running for President of the world which puts me on the other side of the fence.

Posted by: Pat | September 9, 2008 1:05 PM | Report abuse

Hey Brian ... I'd love to do those things to make this country a better place, but I can't afford to run for public office, especially when simply appealing to the lowest common denominator is all that's required.

I'd enlist in the armed forces if they could afford to properly train and equip me and didn't send me off to illegal wars.

I'd be happy to teach if there was proper funding allocated to education and if I didn't have to teach classes based on the content of an end-of-course exam.

I'd love to teach an illiterate adult to read or comfort the afflicted if I had the time. Working 60 hours a week to pay the bills doesn't leave a lot of free time to help others.

I'm glad John McCain has been able to survive on a government paycheck his ENTIRE working life and has a warm fuzzy inside because he had been able to do all those things. Wow, how great his life must be.

What a load. You gotta be rich to think like that.

I can't believe he was able to lift his arms high enough to reach all the way around and pat himself on the back!

But thanks to your inspiring quote, I'm gonna lower my expectations of MY government. Besides, everything that's apparently wrong in the word is my fault.

Posted by: NC John | September 9, 2008 1:04 PM | Report abuse

This has nothing to do with John McSame, Palin or Obama. This has everything to do with the American public"s obsession with mistaking the illusion of soap opera drama for real life..

The American psyche has become so superficially titillated by fanciful distractions that we are on the verge of sending this country into the abyss of selling our souls for tantalizing thrills.

May God help us as we will not easily come out of another 4 more Bush like years...

FACT: McSame has voted 90% the same as George Bush. There are no political commentator out there that can give ONE policy difference between Bush's policies for the past 8 years and the policies McSame are pushing... NOT ONE !

Posted by: nerakami | September 9, 2008 1:04 PM | Report abuse

It's a perception that's been implanted into the American mind since 1980 that if Democrats and liberals don't attack, they only whine or complain about America. Selling personalities over issues and continuous campaigning with the politics of division are what has worked for Republicans. A Republican can out right lie, stretch the truth beyond recognition, and complain, however they will be praised for attacking. Until the brain washing of the last 28 years is eliminated we’ll have the politics of the right wing minority dominating the United States.

Posted by: DC | September 9, 2008 1:04 PM | Report abuse

Here's food for thought:

Don't you folks realize that these polls only call land line phones? This discounts a whole generation of younger voters who don't own land line phones and rely on cell phones. I'm in my early 40's and my wife is in her late 30's and we haven't had a land line phone in over 3 years. Most of our friends are the same way. We use cable for TV and internet use but rely exclusively on cell phones or VOIP for calling.

These polls are already HEAVILY WEIGHTED in McCain's favor since most of the polls collected data from land line phones calling older, more traditional voters (for the most part). I'm surprised that Barack stayed ahead in the polls for as long as he did.

Keep that in mind when reading polling data.

Posted by: Chris, Atlanta, GA | September 9, 2008 1:01 PM | Report abuse

still not voting for obama. ever. this democrat is disgusted with the DNC/Dean/Pelosi/Big Media and will vote mccain/palin. america first!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: mikel | September 9, 2008 1:00 PM | Report abuse

Obama's personality is fake and fraud. Media tried to create a candidate out of him and people have began to understand and question him. Please, do us a favore and let people decide in this election and stop pushing "the One" into our throat.

Posted by: nancy sabet | September 9, 2008 1:00 PM | Report abuse

From:
Head of State
http://tinyurl.com/55atsk


Monday, September 08, 2008
Fear and the Result of Our Decisions: Media, Palin and Iraq

I recall keenly the days of the run-up to the Iraq war. How many journalists--including those I knew and admired--drew back from criticism of obvious gaps and flaws in the logic leading to the conflict; who, despite stories of critical importance for the future of the nation hanging before them, left them hanging in the group-reinforced fear that they would be accused of a lack of patriotism if they were to report them.

And so they were left to be reported long after--in books looking back at the clear issues, landmark errors, and trail of missed opportunities that has led to the fatal outcomes we now see before us.

The issues were there at the time. To be reported.

They were not.

Today, they are again being cowed, by an equally powerful fear of unnecessary intimidation and restraint, the consequences of which stretch far beyond those that we have seen in Iraq.

At a time when we are at war, the economy in shambles, when today Fannie and Freddie Mac are, for the first time in their history, in effect being nationalized, we are being swept by emotion and fear--career fear--into ignoring a situation that would likely send us tumbling into the unknown.

For the short-term fear that each journalist feels, in being perceived as "unpatriotic" to vague, manifest threats regarding gender--they fail to report issues that have nothing to do with gender: the preparedness of a candidate for Vice President of the United States, running alongside an elderly and chronically ill Presidential candidate.

Instead--just as in the run-up to Iraq--each is making the easier choice--to join the risk-averse chorus of personality pieces, each, in the same diffusion of responsibility that had such a major role in leading us into the war in Iraq, taking the route that leads away from fact, regardless of gender.

As in Iraq, reporting fact--regardless of pressure for a mindless conformity and silence--represented actual patriotism, providing the nation with the information it needed to make a reliable and authentic decision, so reporting the facts here--regardless of pressure for an unthinking conformity represents a true balance, a true equality, a true lack of bias.

This is a time of difficult decisions. However, those decisions--your decisions--matter. We have seen this.

Report it. Don't be cowed.

Cite:
Head of State
http://tinyurl.com/55atsk

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2008 1:00 PM | Report abuse

When Pat Buchanan ran for president in 1996, his platform called for (1) eliminating aid to Israel, (2) dividing Jerusalem, and (3) recognizing Palestinian terrorist groups. Before that, he questioned the magnitude of the Holocaust and was the architect of President Regan's visit to the Waffen-SS cemetery at Bitburg. Despite his well-known positions and history, Sarah Plain choose to actively support Pat Buchanan's candidacy. It's no wonder that Buchanan has written so glowingly about Palin. Sarah Palin is a disciple of Pat Buchanan. And if McCain wins, she'll be a 72-year-old heartbeat away from the presidency. This is unacceptable.

Posted by: Zev | September 9, 2008 12:47 PM
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Zev, I can understand why you think Palin is a Buchanan supporter, because the left-wing blogs have spread that lie, but it's not true. For the facts, check out this Newsweek article which is from factcheck.org:

http://www.newsweek.com/id/157986

Posted by: WashingtonDame | September 9, 2008 12:59 PM | Report abuse

Here's food for thought:

Don't you folks realize that these polls only call land line phones? This discounts a whole generation of younger voters who don't own land line phones and rely on cell phones. I'm in my early 40's and my wife is in her late 30's and we haven't had a land line phone in over 3 years. Most of our friends are the same way. We use cable for TV and internet use but rely exclusively on cell phones or VOIP for calling.

These polls are already HEAVILY WEIGHTED in McCain's favor since most of the polls collected data from land line phones calling older, more traditional voters (for the most part). I'm surprised that Barack stayed ahead in the polls for as long as he did.

Keep that in mind when reading polling data.

Posted by: Chris, Atlanta, GA | September 9, 2008 12:59 PM | Report abuse

nevermind - you were right, according to most media accounts. :)

Posted by: bungles | September 9, 2008 12:58 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin is a red herring... Quote: The name of this fallacy comes from the sport of fox hunting in which a dried, smoked herring, which is red in color, is dragged across the trail of the fox to throw the hounds off the scent. Thus, a "red herring" argument is one which distracts the audience from the issue in question through the introduction of some irrelevancy. This frequently occurs during debates when there is an at least implicit topic, yet it is easy to lose track of it. By extension, it applies to any argument in which the premisses are logically irrelevant to the conclusion.

Posted by: rv60610 | September 9, 2008 12:55 PM | Report abuse

Fix, it was provolone cheese for Kerry, not swiss :)

Posted by: bungles | September 9, 2008 12:55 PM | Report abuse

Brian,

Those are great suggestions from Sen. McCain. I wholeheartedly agree with them.

The problem is: how does he reconcile those words with his status as the presidential nominee of a party that labels anyone who dares to say that our nation has flaws as "unpatriotic"?

How does he make that statement on one hand, and allows his comrades to stand at a podium in St. Paul and mock people who do exactly what he says we should be doing?

If he can answer that question, I would be surprised.

Posted by: JamesCH | September 9, 2008 12:55 PM | Report abuse

You left out supporting a candidate that represents real change, Obama.

"I read a lot of griping on this blog.

Why don't some of you try a few of the following suggestions...(I have):

"If you find faults with our country, make it a better one. If you're disappointed with the mistakes of government, join its ranks and work to correct them. Enlist in our armed forces. Become a teacher. Enter the ministry. Run for public office. Feed a hungry child. Teach an illiterate adult to read. Comfort the afflicted. Defend the rights of the oppressed. Our country will be the better, and you will be the happier. Because nothing brings greater happiness in life than to serve a cause greater than yourself."

-John S. McCain

Posted by: Brian | September 9, 2008 12:47 PM"

Posted by: fonkyou | September 9, 2008 12:55 PM | Report abuse

This is the way it always goes.

W wins because he's the candidate the regular guy would most want to have a beer with.

Clinton wins because his charisma is off the scale, buries the needle on the machine that measures it.

The war hero/everymom combo is going to be powerful indeed.

Posted by: JD | September 9, 2008 12:55 PM | Report abuse

Roger, you should look at "The Trail" blog, where people are asked to suggest questions for Gibson to ask Palin.

All of the left wing moonbats are suggesting questions about all of the lies and rumors on the left wing blog. There are almost no questions regarding any serious issue. The hate and invective of the left is doing more to change the subject of the debate than anything McCain could have ever done.

Posted by: Razorback | September 9, 2008 12:54 PM | Report abuse

Obama on the World Trade Center attack, in 1993. “We were able to arrest those responsible, put them on trial,” he said. “They are currently in U.S. prisons, incapacitated.”........but the towers still fell......a democrat response is litigation......

On 9/11 vow that no democrat will ever lead this nation.

Posted by: George Dixon | September 9, 2008 12:54 PM | Report abuse

Is the campaign about personalities when there are people losing their jobs and their homes here and losing their lives in Iraq? Is the campaign about personalities when you have the GOP candidates blatantly lying about their accomplishments and motivations? Is the campaign about personalities when we discover that the Alaska Governor took more earmarks than Senators with twenty years on the hill while praying for a pipeline? If you notice, Senator McCain no longer says this campaign is about character.

Posted by: Steve | September 9, 2008 12:54 PM | Report abuse

He is only short on personality according to YOU. Their is only "issues" if you and the other MSM stooges fall for the talking points. What is clear is that a woman was walking down my street knocking on doors looking for odd jobs. No way anyone could afford to hire her. It was pitiful. Today we find out that we are bailing out yet another rich guys company. next the car companies want tax dollars. THAT is what is moving me to the dems, not some hate-monger. We have had enough!

Posted by: preAmerikkkan | September 9, 2008 12:54 PM | Report abuse

The campaign is now about biography, which means about race. Who is more like us: Sarah and John, both nice and white; or Barack and Michelle, black and perhaps scarey?

Posted by: candide | September 9, 2008 12:52 PM | Report abuse

Of course the Republicans want to make the election about personalities and moose hunting or whatever it takes to prevent serious discussion of the serious issues facing America and the world. And of course the strategy often works. As Bertrand Russell said, people would rather die than think.

Posted by: Roger | September 9, 2008 12:49 PM | Report abuse

I read a lot of griping on this blog.

Why don't some of you try a few of the following suggestions...(I have):

"If you find faults with our country, make it a better one. If you're disappointed with the mistakes of government, join its ranks and work to correct them. Enlist in our armed forces. Become a teacher. Enter the ministry. Run for public office. Feed a hungry child. Teach an illiterate adult to read. Comfort the afflicted. Defend the rights of the oppressed. Our country will be the better, and you will be the happier. Because nothing brings greater happiness in life than to serve a cause greater than yourself."

-John S. McCain

Posted by: Brian | September 9, 2008 12:47 PM | Report abuse

When Pat Buchanan ran for president in 1996, his platform called for (1) eliminating aid to Israel, (2) dividing Jerusalem, and (3) recognizing Palestinian terrorist groups. Before that, he questioned the magnitude of the Holocaust and was the architect of President Regan's visit to the Waffen-SS cemetery at Bitburg. Despite his well-known positions and history, Sarah Plain choose to actively support Pat Buchanan's candidacy. It's no wonder that Buchanan has written so glowingly about Palin. Sarah Palin is a disciple of Pat Buchanan. And if McCain wins, she'll be a 72-year-old heartbeat away from the presidency. This is unacceptable.

Posted by: Zev | September 9, 2008 12:47 PM | Report abuse

I would hope that every election wouldn't be a personality contest, that every voter would decide based on the issues. Sadly, that's not the case.

From the people that brought you 8 years of George "I'd like to have a beer with him" Bush, here comes Sarah "Crazy right-wing but has two X chromosomes" Palin. I'm looking forward to another half-decade of economic misery.

Posted by: ManUnitdFan | September 9, 2008 12:46 PM | Report abuse

As a Democrat I've got to say it....Dems are the biggest scardy cats in existence.

Look, McCain JUST HAD a convention. Of course he's getting a 'bounce'.

Relax. The race is the same race it was before the Dem convention. Don't get all chicken-little on us...you always want to run like you're 10 pts behind, but c'mon. Buck up. Obama is no Dukakis or Kerry.

Did you all really think the first black man running would win in a landslide?

Posted by: TimPundit | September 9, 2008 12:46 PM | Report abuse

As a Democrat, I am concerned by the bounce that McCain received after such a mean-spirited, devoid of substance convention.

However, the polls have been somewhat unreliable this year, especially Rasmussen (the Ouija board of political polling).

What I'm more interested in is some of the ancillary polling.

Has McCain closed the gap in the polls asking who would "bring needed change"? If that's the case, that would be far more of a concern than the general polls.

Posted by: JamesCH | September 9, 2008 12:46 PM | Report abuse

Charles Gibson is the guy (in)famous for falling asleep on camera. Hopefully interviewing a VP candidate will be enough to keep him awake for two days.

Posted by: bondjedi | September 9, 2008 12:44 PM | Report abuse

The best Republican "trick" of the entire campaign has been the leftwing bloggers vicious personal attacks on Sahah Palin, which have caused a backlash and have also caused Obama to lose control of his message. Go KOS Go.

Posted by: Razorback | September 9, 2008 12:41 PM | Report abuse

The polls are starting to turn, so the Palin bump may be coming to an end.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/general_election_mccain_vs_obama-225.html

Posted by: fonkyou | September 9, 2008 12:40 PM | Report abuse

Wait until the run-up to the VP debate (the two weeks or so before Oct. 8). If the Dems are smart, that will be about the time for the top tier of Democratic women to begin to peel away at Palin, including several pointed attacks by Sen. Clinton.

By the time we get to the debate, the celebrity will have worn off for Palin, and she'll have had to make public remarks that can be used against her.

With any luck, she'll hang herself by throwing the same fire at Dem women as she has at Obama and Biden. Once that happens, she'll have to be able to explain how she and McCain would be any different than the Bush administration. Biden can be direct, and Palin can't cry foul.

Posted by: JamesCH | September 9, 2008 12:39 PM | Report abuse

It's only been just over a week, but it's beginning to get a little eerie not seeing Sen. McCain campaigning without seeing Gov. Palin also.

Plus, from a strategy standpoint, unless campaigns are 'totally television' now the Dynamic Duo approach cuts their 'Meet the People' opportunities in half.

Posted by: Nor'Easter | September 9, 2008 12:34 PM | Report abuse

The country's blind date with Palin is over, and now its time to ponder if we want to see her again. Let her sit down with ABC's Charlie Gibson and talk about what she thinks and believes. If she's a whack job and it comes out, the Repubs giddy balloon ride will sink fast. If she comes off thoughtful, grounded, and sensible, then we got a horserace on our hands.

Posted by: ronimacz | September 9, 2008 12:34 PM | Report abuse

AT THIS POINT, IT'S ALL ABOUT GRRL POWER

If Obama really wants to win, he must devise a way for Hillary to replace Biden on his ticket. With less than two months until Election Day, there's no other option, other than to cross their fingers and hope Palin self-destructs.

With an adoring and easily manipulated media, that may be wishful thinking at this stage.

Joe's got to take one for the team.

This Election isn't about the issues, or the personalities of the guys at the top of the ticket.

'08 seems to be shaping up as the year of:

GRRL POWER. As in, "GRRRRRR!"

Posted by: Outside the Box | September 9, 2008 12:33 PM | Report abuse

The republican trick is to keep the Obama/Biden campaign's hands tied because they do not want to be accused of sexism. That is the only reason they picked Sarah. But Sarah herself said she is a pitbull with lipstick. Good, because the world is run by pitbulls with ties! So, if Sarah is a pitbull with lipstick and she gets ripped by Biden, a pitbull in a tie, and her fans cry sexism, then Sarah is not fit to run this country let alone protect us from the pitbulls in ties that run the world! So when they cry sexism does that mean we need a man, a pitbull in a tie, to come to Sarah’s rescue because she is the victim of sexism, the damsel in distress? Let’s keep it real. World wide, internationally, the pitbull in lipstick will be the “victim” of sexism and the pitbulls in ties are not going to care less about her complaining about sexism. Get over it, it’s a trick that is not going to work. Give her hell Biden, just remember, she’s a pitbull with lipstick.

Posted by: Myjibril | September 9, 2008 12:30 PM | Report abuse

A lot of the McCain-Palin star is fueled by an adoring media, including those who would think Palin gave the best speech from either convention.

Posted by: trustynailz | September 9, 2008 12:23 PM | Report abuse

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