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Obama, who has been silent for much of this morning's discussion of Iraq, used a question directed to him to remind voters that he alone of the top-tier Democratic candidates was against the war from the start.

"The thing I wish had happened is that all the people on this stage had asked these questions before they authorized us getting in," said Obama to applause. He said the 2002 vote to authorize the war "indicates how we get into trouble when we engage in...the sort of conventional thinking" that dominates in Washington.

A nice moment for Obama: Remind voters of his initial opposition to the war and cast himself as the unconventional candidate in the field.

By Chris Cillizza  |  August 19, 2007; 9:45 AM ET
Categories:  Eye on 2008  
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Obama has been consistently voting for this war's funding ever since he was voted into the senate. I doubt he would've voted against the resolution had he been there when the war was popular. So he's conveniently claiming to be strongly anti-war, when we all know that his true colors shine through every time he votes pro-bush on the war funding.

Posted by: brody | August 20, 2007 8:48 PM | Report abuse

Obama won the debate hands down. This is what I like others saw.
http://forum.sonshi.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=31067#post31067

Posted by: Peter M | August 20, 2007 3:19 PM | Report abuse

Dor, you are exactly the type of democrat Karl rove is aiming at. You need to look deeper. Rove attacks Hillary so dems rush to her side. Then she wins the primary, and gets totally SQUASHED in the general when dems who won't vote for her stay home, and repubs who hate her run to the polls. Unfortunately,YOU sound like one of the naive democrats Karl is aiming for. Please put on your thinking cap- or just look up what some of Bush's 2004 strategists have since admitted- they used the same techinique in 2004 to ensure Kerry would win the primary cuz they know they could beat him in a general election. Let's not be fooled again.

Posted by: jds | August 20, 2007 3:09 PM | Report abuse

Of the three top candidates, my opinion is that Obama won the debate. If he is naive and inexperienced, then I want a naive and inexperienced president.

Posted by: Dan, TX | August 20, 2007 12:09 PM | Report abuse

Dor , Just say it that you don't like Obama , and we will understand you clearly.
Bottom is , the Guy(Obama) is right. And he once again showed during the last debate that he is ready to lead!
So let be objective.
He has my vote !

Hillary always talks about experience! but the fact is that no journalist has ever take time to really analyze her so called experience and tell us if she really made good judgments during her career!

Anyway Obama has to win because he is well qualified!!!

The other candidates are just there following and attcking Obama, except at some point of Sen Edouard!

I also want to say this chris Cillizza is a good journalist!(It is my point of view and it engages just me!!! I really love his Blogs...)

Posted by: Ericwillyb | August 20, 2007 8:12 AM | Report abuse

Dor , Just say you don't like Obama , and we will understand you clearly.
Bottom is , the Guy(Obama) is right. And he once again showed during the last debate that he is ready to lead!
So let be objective.
He has my vote !

Hillary always talks about experience! but the fact is that no journalist has ever take time to really analyze her so called experience and tell us if she really made good judgments during her career!

Anyway Obama has to win because he is well qualified!!!

The other candidates are just there following and attcking Obama, except at some point of Sen Edouard!

I also want to say this chris Cillizza is a good journalist!(It is my point of view and it engages just me!!! I really love his Blogs...)

Posted by: Dor | August 20, 2007 8:10 AM | Report abuse

It is really not that hard to oppose voting for the war when you didn't have the chance to vote for or against it.

I am getting tired of Obama attacking democratic candidates that voted for the war. If you all remember, at the time almost all the senate voted for the Iraq war. Because if you all remember, one, it was not possible for democrats to stop it anyway, and two, the whole America was feeling very patriotic at the time, and anyone who said anything against the war or Bush would commit political suicide. Obama is not "tested" under those conditions! So you really have no way of knowing.

The way Obama has been handling his campaign, which is identical to all other politicians, given he has spent the most money out of all democratic candidates, including Hillary on his campaign so far, and how he attacks other candidates, really doesn't scream "change" to me. Obama is not Jesus. He has so so so much money, and he spends more than anyone.

So he has decided not to accept Lobbyist money at this point, "after" finding out that most of his fund-raising doesn't come from lobbyists anyway. So no harm done! It's just a great tactic to attack other candidates. If he felt so strongly about this issue, why didn't he say it before this last fun-raising deadline, when we all saw he doesn't really need that extra lobbyist money? Obama doesn't "need" lobbyist money, so it's really no sacrifice for him.

What bugs me is that people are so desperate for change that so many are actually buying what he says. As Edwards mentioned, democrats won the last senate elections, so any half brained person could have figured out that people want change. Why are people believing him? Have we become so unreasonable that we believe what politicians say? You can never, NEVER really believe what politicians say. Those are the rules of the game.

Obama is a good politician, and I think his time will come. But he has no chance of winning the general election this time. Obama has never had to stand up and face so much criticism and ridicule that a presidential campaign will bring.

He has not been very consistent with his campaign and his polls keep going dangerously low every now and then. Do you think republicans will allow for him to bounce back? They will make a caricature out of him in a day. And the rest of the way he'll be fighting to change that, and he'll lose.

Look at how Hillary handles the debates, how she handles being attacked, how she has been so involved with so many winning campaigns, how she has been very consistent with the polls, no downs there. Her favorables have been slowly but consistently going up among Republicans and undecided voters. Why would Carl Rove try to sabotage a democratic candidate? Because she is the only person that can win.

Carl Rove is smart. He knows if Hillary wins the primary, is the only one that has a shot at winning the general election. Why else would he try to discourage democrats from voting for her?

I really hope democrats don't screw it up again. Elect someone that can actually win a campaign, what people think of Obama is a fantasy.

Posted by: Dor | August 20, 2007 6:31 AM | Report abuse

I must say, I have no clue how astute he is on this issue of IRAQ. Americans got to hand it to him and it is very impressive the way he answered the IRAQ split answer. That was fabulous. I have never seen such an impressive answer and no one could come with that. It shows he has wisdom and upholds decency of a human being to make up their choices.

Posted by: Paul | August 19, 2007 11:26 PM | Report abuse

"I don't oppose all wars. And I know that in this crowd today, there is no shortage of patriots, or of patriotism. What I am opposed to is a dumb war. What I am opposed to is a rash war."

-Barack Obama Anti-War Rally, Chicago 2002

Posted by: Mark Morris | August 19, 2007 5:23 PM | Report abuse

Sen. Obama hit home his superior judgment on the critical issues facing America. No, he wasn't in the Senate when the vote to authorize the war came, but he was a candidate for the Senate and was clearly, unequivocally against going into Iraq because he was not persuaded by the arguments Bush & Co. were making. He has said that invading Irag and investing staggering resources there has distracted the military from what should have been its number one target: Bin Laden and al Quaeda. Obama didn't and wouldn't trust Bush back then, and that judgment is more important than any number of years or decades of legislative "experience" that led all the others (except Kucinich) to go along with Bush.
Sen. Obama got the biggest applause of anyone on the stage. There is a reason his poll numbers are so high in the early states where he has spent so much time: the more voters get to know Obama, the more they like and trust him and want to see him win. He also has more experience in terms of years of service as an elected legislator (8 years in the Illinois Senate and 3 now in the U. S. Senate) than either Clinton or Edwards.
It's time for real change, for a real leader who can inspire and lead. And that leader is Barack Obama.

Posted by: Lauren | August 19, 2007 3:02 PM | Report abuse

Chris, that was the only bright moment in the entire debate and it's the absolute truth. Hillary and co. should have asked those tough questions before voting for the war given all the "experience" and "strength" they proclaim they alone possess to lead this country forward. The voters in Iowa and New Hampshire are smart. I hope everyone will open their eyes and see them for the fraud that Hillary and her pack are. Obama also did very well on the foreign policy question when he turned and looked at Joe Biden, who's so confident that he alone has the better post Iraq plan, and told him that the Iraqi's themselves will make the decision if they'd like to have their country partitioned and not imposed upon them by us. Joe looked so little and embarrassed because his plan had just gone up in smoke. I think Obama did a good job but overall, the underdog candidates are very boring to watch.

Posted by: Joe S. | August 19, 2007 10:53 AM | Report abuse

A nice moment he repeats over and over and over again but the reality is he wasn't in the Senate when they voted for the war AND he has funded the thing the entire way. Which I am sure Kucinich & Gravel will point out.

Posted by: Jeff | August 19, 2007 9:50 AM | Report abuse

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