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Obama Picks Biden as V.P.

Barack Obama and Joe Biden

Barack Obama confers with Sen. Joe Biden (D-Del.) during a hearing of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, which Biden chairs.

Barack Obama has chosen Delaware Sen. Joe Biden as his vice presidential running mate, a pick designed to shore up the Illinois senator's foreign policy credentials in advance of the November election against John McCain.

Biden's selection was confirmed by a Democratic source after an evening of speculation that centered on the Delaware senator when it was reported that the other top contenders were no longer under consideration. Biden had been considered the frontrunner for the job in recent weeks -- a position confirmed by a last-minute, unscheduled trip last weekend to meet with the president of Georgia.

News of the pick was reported in advance of the Obama campaign's planned Saturday announcement to supporters via email and text message.

Biden was first elected to the Senate in 1972 at the age of 29. A month after his election, his wife and daughter were killed in a car accident. Biden has not been seriously challenged since that first election -- a reflection of both the Democratic roots of the state and Biden's skillfulness as a politician.

Long rumored as a candidate for national office, Biden launched a presidential bid in 1987 that was gaining traction until a video was leaked to the press that showed striking similarities between a speech by Biden and an address by British Labour Party politician Neil Kinnock. Biden sought to beat back the controversy but subsequent allegations about plagiarism and resume inflation in law school forced him from the contest.

Biden was subsequently stricken in early 1988 by a brain aneurysm from which he recovered fully. Once his health improved, Biden threw himself back into the day to day working of the Senate where he chaired the high profile Judiciary Committee from 1987 until 1995. In that role, he chaired the controversial Supreme Court confirmation hearings of Robert Bork and Clarence Thomas. Biden has also served several stints as the chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, a perch from which he has emerged as one of the leading voices in the Democratic Party on foreign policy matters.

Two decades after his first bid for president, Biden launched a second candidacy in 2007. He was never considered anything more than a longshot due to the presence of both Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton in the contest but acquitted himself well in the eyes of the Democratic establishment. Biden proved that the charisma that had recommended him as a rising star in the 1980s was still very much part of his political portfolio; he also excelled in the myriad debates held among the Democratic aspirants during the primary season.

For Obama, the Biden pick is a sign that he and his campaign believe that foreign policy matters will be front and center in the fall election. Biden brings the Democratic ticket immediate gravitas on issues ranging from the war in Iraq to the ongoing conflict between Russia and Georgia.

McCain has made no secret that he believes Obama's experience in public life ill suits him to handle the complex world situation into which the next president will immediately step. Biden, a serious politician with a far deeper resume than Obama, will complicate -- if not entirely blunt -- Republican attacks on the Illinois senator's readiness for office.

We'll have far more about the pick both on The Fix and the washingtonpost.com site more generally throughout the day. In the meantime, make sure to check out the case for and case against Biden as vice president we made in this space. They should provide a blueprint for how Democrats and Republicans will try to define the Delaware senator in the coming weeks and months.

By Chris Cillizza  |  August 23, 2008; 1:30 AM ET
Categories:  Eye on 2008 , Veepstakes  
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Posted by: ma725zda | August 25, 2008 6:25 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: ma462zda | August 25, 2008 12:01 PM | Report abuse

Where's my tee shirt? I picked Biden about 15 minutes after you posted the pick the VP contest.

Posted by: Rob Burke | August 25, 2008 11:26 AM | Report abuse

I had read various articles about how the tech-savvy Illinois senator was going to send out a text message of his VEEP choice to supporters in advance of any media announcement. But, as it turned out, the media beat him to the punch. Now I guess some of these supporters feel just a teensy bit disappointed. Here was one of those ever-so-rare bloopers by the Obama campaign. Any comment by WaPo or The Fix?

Posted by: cocktails42 | August 25, 2008 1:08 AM | Report abuse

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Posted by: ma747zda | August 24, 2008 1:02 PM | Report abuse

"Eleanor Rasdorff, Mccain did not fight in WWII, sorry, a senior moment, that's ok, I have them all the time, were both about the same age. Posted by: Anonymous"

If blogs weren't so horribly clogged by these refugees from 11 meters out trying to break up any conversation they can find, MS Rasdorf's irony would be more apparent.

If you actually had to have a license, and registration, to post on these blogs at least some of the spam could be avoided.

Clueless Republicans, however, will be with us forever.

Sorry about the double, hit submit when I meant to hit preview.

Posted by: ceflynline@msn.com | August 24, 2008 12:27 AM | Report abuse

"Eleanor Rasdorff, Mccain did not fight in WWII, sorry, a senior moment, that's ok, I have them all the time, were both about the same age. Posted by: Anonymous"

If blogs weren't so horribly clogged by these refugees from 11 meters out trying to break up any conversation they can find, MS Rasdorf's irony would be more apparent.

If you actually had to have a license, and registration, to post on these blogs at least some of the spam could be avoided.

Clueless Republicans, however, will be with us forever.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 24, 2008 12:25 AM | Report abuse

Obama thinks he has it in the bag in November..he better think again.The eighteen million votes he did NOT RECEIVE will come back to haunt him..

Posted by: anonymous | August 23, 2008 9:47 PM | Report abuse

Because of this
COULD JOHN MCCAIN BE THIS INSANE?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CdKuLRmg8k&feature=related

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SEN. OBAMA CHOICE DEMONSTRATES SEN. OBAMA SELF DOUBT IN HIS OWN JUDGEMENT, EXPERIENCE AND ABILITIES.
Young, scared and inexperienced leaders usually elect older assistant to hold their hands and to cover for their many weaknesses. For example: Pres. Bush and V. Pres. Chaney.

BTW, why should Americans put trust, confidence, and thousands of nuclear weapons and safety of world in Sen. Obama hands when he don't have confidence in himself?

Posted by: Christina L. | August 23, 2008 3:51 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2008 9:20 PM | Report abuse

"Biden, a serious politician with a far deeper resume than Obama, will complicate -- if not entirely blunt -- Republican attacks on the Illinois senator's readiness for office."

Really? How is the argument that Obama would be an inexperienced President even slightly undermined by the fact that his running mate is experienced? The American people view the VP candidate's experience as a testament to the VP's readiness for office, not the President's readiness for office.

Posted by: David D | August 23, 2008 6:37 PM | Report abuse

"Christine L wrote: SEN. OBAMA CHOICE DEMONSTRATES SEN. OBAMA SELF DOUBT IN HIS OWN JUDGEMENT, EXPERIENCE AND ABILITIES."

Question for all you Bible knowin' and followin' Republicans: Which King of Israel and Judah does the Bible hold up as a model, of virtue in his youth for being humble enough to seek wisdom above all, and of vice in his old age for letting his power and wealth subvert him from seeking divine guidance?

In Obama we have young Solomon, knowing enough to seek good advice, and in McCain we have the old Solomon, grown dissolute and arrogant in his wealth. The Book of Kings does say that Solomon's wisdom deserted him in his old age.

But those are biblical verses yu didn't have to know to claim your authority on the bible, were they?

Posted by: ceflynline:msn.com | August 23, 2008 5:32 PM | Report abuse

Remember 1960, where it became politically useful for Kennedy to take LBJ as his VP? Kennedy, the "Newcomer" and Johnson the experienced old pro? But Johnson didn't have that much seniority on Kennedy, or that much age.

Biden may not know quite as much as LBJ did, or have quite the touch at getting his way through Congress, but if the comparison has any validity, (and I am sure it does) the next four years will be quite successful for the country, and for the Democrats because of it.

Posted by: ceflynline@msn.com | August 23, 2008 5:25 PM | Report abuse

SEN. OBAMA CHOICE DEMONSTRATES SEN. OBAMA SELF DOUBT IN HIS OWN JUDGEMENT, EXPERIENCE AND ABILITIES.
Young, scared and inexperienced leaders usually elect older assistant to hold their hands and to cover for their many weaknesses. For example: Pres. Bush and V. Pres. Chaney.

BTW, why should Americans put trust, confidence, and thousands of nuclear weapons and safety of world in Sen. Obama hands when he don't have confidence in himself?

Posted by: Christina L. | August 23, 2008 3:51 PM | Report abuse

"Thomas lieless" calling someone a zealot does not mean he's a liar or plagiarist, like Joe VP... what about Lifson's article highlighting the strong Obama/Ayres relationship is false?????????????????

Posted by: Scott | August 23, 2008 3:50 PM | Report abuse

"Barack America"

Joe Biden, 8/23/08, Springfield Illinois

Who'd he steal that line from?

Where is his defense of his own comments regarding Obama's lack of readiness to be President?
Obama himself agrees with Joe- Obama announced him as the "Next PRESIDENT of the US" page Dr. Freud...Not ready to be president are we Barack?

Posted by: Scott | August 23, 2008 3:46 PM | Report abuse

While Biden is a supporter of Roe v. Wade, his record on certain pro-life issues is contrary to Obama's positions. For example:

Obama vs. Biden on Partial-Birth Abortion

The Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act was enacted in 2003, with Senator Biden's support, and was upheld by the U.S. Supreme Court in April, 2007. At that time, Barack Obama sharply criticized the U.S. Supreme Court for its ruling, saying, “I strongly disagree with today’s Supreme Court ruling . . ."

As for Biden: "I voted for the partial-birth abortion ban," said [Sen. Joe] Biden while answering a woman's question at a conference sponsored by the National Jewish Democratic Council. "I think it’s an extraordinary circumstance, I make no apologies for it." ABCNews.com, April 24, 2007.

Obama vs. Biden on tax-funded abortions

Barack Obama advocates federal funding of abortion, and while in the Illinois legislature he voted against legislation to restrict state funding of abortion on demand. That is consistent with the policy advocated in the proposed 2008 Democratic Party platform, which says, "The Democratic Party strongly and unequivocally supports Roe v. Wade and a woman's right to choose a safe and legal abortion, regardless of ability to pay . . ." In short, Obama and the platform favor repeal of the Hyde Amendment and the other laws that prevent funding of abortion in federal programs such as Medicaid. But Senator Biden has been voting for those laws for decades. Biden has written, "I might also add that I find it difficult to understand how those who refuse to limit the right of abortion in this country can at the same time support the expansion of the government's financial involvement in providing for abortions. That is why I have been a consistent supporter of the Hyde Amendment, which prohibits the use of Medicaid funds to finance abortions. I believe that it is not the government's business to be promoting abortion in any way." (Letter, June 16, 1983)

Obama v. Biden on Born-Alive Infants Protection legislation

On 2001, Biden voted for the language of the federal Born-Alive Infants Protection Act (BAIPA), which recognizes babies who are born alive during abortions as legally protected persons, while Obama killed a virtually identical bill in the Illinois State Senate in 2003.

Documentation at the National Right to Life website at www-dot-nrlc-dot-org

Posted by: Douglas Johnson | August 23, 2008 3:40 PM | Report abuse

Hey- canadagirl, Wait and see how many care in November-

"Now speaking on the same panel doesn’t mean Obama is sympathetic to their goals. It does suggest that there was no break with Ayres after the 1995 visits. Obama hasn’t distanced himself from these domestic terrorists, even after terrorism against the United States became a little…harder to ignore after September 11th, 2001. As did William Ayres himself, who had the laughably ill luck to spout off about how proud he was of his terrorism in an interview with the New York Times–an interview that ran in their September 11, 2001 edition.

Individually, these events aren’t much. Appearing on a panel with creepy people doesn’t mean you’re a creep. But taken together, these add up to a pattern of what is at best frightening tone-deafness toward terrorism, and a blithe ignorance of the evil and chaos these radicals represent."
Google-"William Ayres Murderer"

Posted by: Americagirl | August 23, 2008 3:40 PM | Report abuse

posting an article by a right-wing zealot doesn't make it true, sorry folks.

THOMAS LIFSON IS NOT A JOURNALIST; HE'S A PARTISAN HACK.

and who cares what Lifson says? he's been wrong about everything.

say it once, say it 1,000 times, you're not going to make your load of malarkey true - and you must be enrages that none of your mudslinging sticks to obama.

OBAMA/BIDEN 08! get ready. it's gonna be good.

Posted by: thomas lifeless | August 23, 2008 3:38 PM | Report abuse

"I see many of you claim to be "lifelong democrats," but refuse to vote for Obama for various reasons. Instead you threaten to vote McCain in November. I ask only that you stop and ask yourselves why you have been "lifelong democrats?""

The Obama campaign has show time and again that they do not want, need, nor respect the HRC voters. They can do it without us. In my state, North Carolina, it is legal to write in HRC. That is what I plan to do in November. I will not vote for McCain, but I do not have to hold my nose and vote for Obama either.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2008 3:22 PM | Report abuse

biden is the best choice ever for Obama.

watch obama/biden event live
http://sensico.wordpress.com/2008/08/23/live/

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2008 2:59 PM | Report abuse

Oooooo! If Sen. Obama wins, we would have President "Diarrhea in the Mouth" and VP "Diarrhea in the Mouth". They both talk too much and $#!+.

They are a perfect match. Both are loquacious, superficial, egotistical and less action (However, Sen. Biden is honest; while Sen. Obama is a crook, pimpster, and schemer.).

Sen. Biden is also emotionally unstable. I would be surprise if he does not blow up before election day.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2008 2:55 PM | Report abuse

I wonder, as we wait to hear Joe biden say that NOW a few months later, Obama is ready to run our country at a time of possible increased coflict with the once and future USSR, is the delay due to David Axelrod carefully checking Biden's speech for unattributed quotations? Three times a plagiarist, always a plagiarist.

Posted by: Scott | August 23, 2008 2:53 PM | Report abuse

This thing about Ayres? Who cares? The number of people in the 60's and 70's that despised what the CIA, FBI and the administration of the WH did to young people are many more than you could imagine.

They were brutal, insensitive, corrupt, and despicable. The nightly news unfortunately was part to blame because of threats from the above named agencies and so everything was distorted. But the people knew, the citizens knew, the drafted young people knew and the World knew.

It was like a police state in America, sending people off to die in an illegal war, civil rights were nowhere to be found and no race was unaffected. Bill Ayres was like many others. An angry young man that had 'issues' with the way America was policing his youth, killing them, setup, discouraged to voice an opinion....much like Russia.

Fox Network has unfortunately brought this to the forefront, which is not about Obama, but America's dirty little secret. Ayres is just a prop for the Repub's political machine, much like Obama's 'inexperience', 'unAmerican', 'unpatriotic', 'elitism', 'bitter', claims. They are all to sell the Republican Party to the few that still desparately want in Power. I lived that era and many youth grew up fast and not trusting their government.

Posted by: canadagirl | August 23, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse

I disagree with those that think Hillary would be the best pick. That is not logical. What experience does she really have? A few more yrs in senate and a WH first lady with no security pass is not experience. All this hype of Hillary's experience is a bold face lie. Obama has a rock solid portfolio that she could never match. All her causes were actually a front for donors for her or Bills campaign. She did not come after sniper fire and obliteraterating Iran was the dumbest thing she ever said. She's also a war monger and trouble with leaders of the free world. They simply cannot stand the woman.

So, Biden is a non Washington intellectual who does speak from his heart, sometimes too aggressive, but who really cares. He hasn't threatened anyone like John Sydney McCain III.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2008 2:33 PM | Report abuse

patrick nyc, I hope you are right.

Ms. Wm. J. Clinton's future depends on an O-and-Joe win. This idea that if O loses, it sets her up for 2012 is absurd. If he loses, she will be personally blamed. No doubt about it. In fact, as you suggest, she would probably have trouble even winning re-election to her Senate seat, much less president in 2012, if O doesn't win. (How does a Dem win statewide in NY with only 5% of the AA vote?) Right now, any high-profile Dem or moderate Republican or Independent would be able to take her down. Also, only with an O win can Wm. J. Clinton repair the legacy that his ugly race-baiting badly tarnished.

But O-and-Joe will win of course -- we hope with the full-throated support of Mr. and Mrs. WJ Clinton. Given the reaction of Mac - outrage and panic - it's clear O's choice of Joe was the right one.
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Posted by: patrick nyc | August 23, 2008 11:09 AM
"There is no doubt Hillary and Bill will give great support, starting next week at the convention, if not she could lose her seat here and he could add one more strike against what could have been one of the best presidencies in history. I say that because I believe his 'blue dress' cost us the White House in 2000."

Posted by: Broadway Joe | August 23, 2008 2:20 PM | Report abuse

The American Thinker
August 22, 2008
Bill & Barack's Excellent Adventure
By Thomas Lifson
William Ayers, unrepentant terrorist and education professor, is once again being tied to Barack Obama in the public mind. Controversy builds over the withholding of the archives of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, an expensive failed school reform effort headed by Obama and effectively run by Ayers, held by the library of the University of Illinois Chicago. Researchers who have gained access to a few documents recording the history of the project have found strong evidence of a very important working relationship between the two men on the project, Obama's sole claim to executive experience.


Oddly enough, even though the project produced no measurable improvement in student performance according to its own final report, educators and administrators -- participants and grantees of the CAC -- were reported by outside monitors to be often "ebullient" about the activities. For insiders, it was an excellent adventure. For the pupils stuck in the failing public schools of Chicago, an ongoing, unrelieved disaster.


Obama and his campaign long have gone out of their way to downplay, in fact distort, the long and evidently deep relationship between Ayers and Obama. In the Philadelphia Democratic debate last April, George Stephanopoulos asked Obama about his relationship with Ayers, and the candidate responded:


"This is a guy who lives in my neighborhood, who's a professor of English in Chicago, who I know and who I have not received some official endorsement from. He's not somebody who I exchange ideas from on a regular basis.

"And the notion that somehow as a consequence of me knowing somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago when I was 8 years old, somehow reflects on me and my values, doesn't make much sense, George. [....]

"So this kind of game, in which anybody who I know, regardless of how flimsy the relationship is, is somehow -- somehow their ideas could be attributed to me -- I think the American people are smarter than that. They're not going to suggest somehow that that is reflective of my views, because it obviously isn't."


Almost two months earlier, the "neighbor" talking point campaign manager David Axelrod introduced the notion that Obama and Ayers were mostly just neighbors, telling The Politico's Ben Smith,


"Bill Ayers lives in his neighborhood. Their kids attend the same school," he said. "They're certainly friendly, they know each other, as anyone whose kids go to school together."


Ayers and his wife are in their sixties, while the Obamas are in their mid-forties. Ayers' children are all adults, while Obama's children are currently 10 and 7. Axelrod's prevarication is telling, bespeaking confidence that nobody in the media will bother to dispute an obvious falsehood.


"Flimsy" turns out to be a completely misleading word when it comes to characterizing the Obama-Ayers relationship.


Notwithstanding the campaign's efforts to direct attention away from Ayers, a 527 group, American Issues Project, has just released the following ad tying Obama to Ayers, and says it is spending 2.8 million on television airtime in key states.


Despite the legally questionable embargo of the CAC archives, most of its tax returns and official evaluations of the CAC have already been made public. In the hands of intrepid bloggers such as Steve Diamond, Tom Maguire and Dan Riehl, there is already proof of Obama's extensive involvement with Ayers over the course of his chairmanship, and an emerging picture of Obama's indecisiveness and absence when serious problems needed leadership.


Barack Obama joined the CAC shortly after William Ayers and Anne C. Hallett received news that their letter of November 8, 1994 submitting a grant proposal to The Annenberg Challenge had been approved. They were to get as much as $49 million from Annenberg, plus tens of millions more dollars from other foundations. Obama's involvement predates by months the actual incorporation of the CAC and his appointment as founding chairman of the board. He came on board almost as soon as the proposal was approved.


How on earth did a relatively unknown associate at a politically-connected but small Chicago law firm come to be entrusted with the heady task of handing out tens of millions of dollars of other people's money?

Keep in mind that Obama was at this point in his career very undistinguished considering his pedigree. It would be a kind understatement to say he had underperformed his academic resume. Three years out of Harvard Law and the Law Review Presidency, here is a short list of some of the things Obama had not done:


Clerked for a US Supreme Court Justice (or any Federal Judge);


worked in an important legal position at any level of serious responsibility;


written a law review article or note or published anything of legal substance.


As of 1995 Obama may have had the most professionally empty resume of any President of the Harvard Law Review three years gone from "The Law School."


And yet Ayers gave him a gig that would enable him to hand out large amounts of money to many people in Chicago, who could be expected to be grateful, once Obama ran for office -- as he was to do later that very year, in an event held at the home of Ayers and Dohrn.


Quite clearly, Obama was already well-enough known and trusted by Ayers to be offered the sensitive, prestigious and highly visible post of chairman of this important new undertaking. So we must ask, when did Obama and Ayers actually first get to know one another? And how did they come to trust one another?


One possible connection between Ayers and Obama was Sidley Austin, the prestigious Chicago law firm where Obama had a summer job after his first year at Harvard Law School, and where he met his future wife Michelle, assigned to him as a mentor. Also working at Sidley Austin was Bernadine Dohrn, wife of William Ayers, and a fellow Weather Underground terrorist. Given the shared "progressive" politics of the three, they probably knew one another and associated together at a firm known as a white shoe corporate practice.


Or Obama might have met Ayers even earlier, during his stint as a community organizer on the South Side of Chicago, in fact. Ayers was a well-known and very active figure in left wing Chicago politics, and might have encountered the young, articulate, Ivy League educated rookie black radical Obama, working in a Saul Alinksy spinoff.


We soon will know much more about the period of collaboration between Obama and Ayers following the start of the CAC. Even if the archives continue to be withheld from public scrutiny, the cat is out of the bag with the documents available to all. The formidable analytical engine of bloggers trading insights and new data is warming up.


But the period prior to 1995, the time when Bill and Barack, the terrorist and the presidential aspirant, got to know one another and build the relationship of trust, is one excellent adventure likely to remain obscure.

Posted by: Scott | August 23, 2008 2:19 PM | Report abuse

i just wonder what happens if obama looses?

Posted by: rawdawgbuffalo | August 23, 2008 11:30 AM

Simply put..........RIOTS.

Obama supporters will be out in force looting and rioting. They will say that the election was rigged so a "Black Man" couldn't win.
It would be blamed on racism. Even though millions will not vote for him due to his lack of experience and not agreeing with his views.

Posted by: LC | August 23, 2008 1:50 PM | Report abuse

NoOneImportant -

JB is unique among senators - he is NOT rich.

Posted by: MarkInAustin | August 23, 2008 1:15 PM | Report abuse

AsperGirl, I not sure your a girl. You sound more like a silly Queen running around pandering for Hillary.

Posted by: Luke | August 23, 2008 1:13 PM | Report abuse

When McCain wins by four votes, Republicans and the Advance Committee of Clinton '12 will have Bill, Hillary, Chelsea, and Bill to thank for their margin of victory.

Posted by: Scott | August 23, 2008 1:12 PM | Report abuse

Solid, smart choice by Obama. I think plugging the foriegn policy hole is more important for Obama's chances than picking a Washington "outsider".

Plus, I don't know how a Biden-Pawlenty debate would go, but a Biden-Romney VP debate would be awesome TV (well...as awesome as a debate could be). No punches would be pulled there...hope it happens.

Posted by: Nerrtified | August 23, 2008 1:04 PM | Report abuse

Eleanor Rasdorff, Mccain did not fight in WWII, sorry, a senior moment, that's ok, I have them all the time, were both about the same age.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2008 12:58 PM | Report abuse

An acknowledgment to the Fixistas who were WAY ahead of the Fix's veepsteaks early lines in noting Biden's value to the ticket would have been appropriate.

Posted by: Optimyst | August 23, 2008 12:54 PM | Report abuse

When mcCain wins by four votes, Republicans and the organizing committee of Clinton '12 will count the votes of Bill, Hilary, Chelsea and Bill as their margin of victory.

Posted by: scott | August 23, 2008 12:50 PM | Report abuse

Solid choice. No one votes for VP, but Obama has shown that when faced with a big decision he can choose experience / establishment / a Washington insider. (All the same thing).

Biden takes Amtrack home to Delaware?? A train?? I'll bet - although very rich himself - he knows how many houses he owns.

PS: Come on folks, they're all dripping with money. McCain's big mistake was trying to paint Obama as 'elitist' when he's elitist himself. No one could paint W elitist - despite all his money - because he's such an idiot. Never misundetesitmate the power of an idiot.

Posted by: NoOneImportant | August 23, 2008 11:51 AM | Report abuse

Get over the 3 am thing and get over your paranoia. This country has what, seven time zones? I got my message at 2 am.

Another thing going for Joe: He's not married to Bill.

Posted by: CalKate | August 23, 2008 11:48 AM | Report abuse

I see many of you claim to be "lifelong democrats," but refuse to vote for Obama for various reasons. Instead you threaten to vote McCain in November. I ask only that you stop and ask yourselves why you have been "lifelong democrats?" I can only hope this is because you cherish and respect the ideals of the democratic party (for me, human rights, dignity and the pursuit of happiness for all). If this or something similar is what motivated you to maintain democratic party membership for your entire life, I urge you to revisit those ideals and reconsider your intended vote this November. Think about it, you have a chance to vote an actual liberal into office this time to begin repairing the last 8 years of republican destruction, maybe not the liberal you wanted, but a liberal nonetheless. McCain is the last thing you actually want, he represents another 4+ years of Bush/Cheney Neoconservative destruction. Ask yourself what you are actually voting FOR when you vote AGAINST something else. Obama was most definitely not my first pick, but neither was McCain, so I will vote for the person who shares most of my values and not
against the one who defeated my first pick.

Posted by: no need for a name | August 23, 2008 11:38 AM | Report abuse

Democrats for McCain aka Clinton '12 is thrilled by the choice. The whole case against Hilary was that she represented the old established Washington and therefore could not represent change. Now what? I suppose the resurgence of the once and future USSR means it is time for grown ups in the race. But whose fingers on the button? Who looks more like Bush now choosing a mentor for VP?

Posted by: scott | August 23, 2008 11:32 AM | Report abuse

i just wonder what happens if obama looses?

Posted by: rawdawgbuffalo | August 23, 2008 11:30 AM | Report abuse

OBAMA BIN BIDEN 08

This really sounds like a winning ticket - now which state were they supposed to carry?


.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2008 11:28 AM | Report abuse

I find it ironic that someone called Obama / Biden "Phony and Liar", while posting the same post under three different names?

somehow, Mr. McElroy-Lol-Elect a phony, i don't really think you're laughing. and it's not even november yet.

seriously, plagarism from 20 years ago, 40 years ago is the best you can do?

stick with mccain, by all means. like you were ever going to vote for anyone else anyway.


Phony chooses Liar. Too sad to laugh.
http://nutsandbolts.washcoll.edu/plagiarism.html

Posted by: Tim McElroy--Detroit | August 23, 2008 11:20 AM

http://nutsandbolts.washcoll.edu/plagiarism.html

Posted by: LOL | August 23, 2008 11:18 AM

http://nutsandbolts.washcoll.edu/plagiarism.html

Posted by: nuff said...elect a phony | August 23, 2008 11:17 AM

Posted by: OBAMA/BIDEN 08! | August 23, 2008 11:26 AM | Report abuse

Biden on Obama (August 2007): "I think (Obama) can be ready, but right now I don't believe he is. The presidency is not something that lends itself to on-the-job training."

Posted by: badgergrad | August 23, 2008 11:24 AM | Report abuse

Phony chooses Liar. Too sad to laugh.
http://nutsandbolts.washcoll.edu/plagiarism.html

Posted by: Tim McElroy--Detroit | August 23, 2008 11:20 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: LOL | August 23, 2008 11:18 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: nuff said...elect a phony | August 23, 2008 11:17 AM | Report abuse

BLOGGA, PLEASE...

so many fake "dems" and "clinton" supporters. ..people, the right wing is shaking in their already unstable boots. and they're now clogging up the blogosphere PRETENDING TO BE DEMOCRATS, but talking about how the "party is in disarray" and "i was gonna vote for clinton, but with this boring choice, i have to vote for mccain."

so desperate, so false. YOU KNOW BIDEN WAS THE CORRECT CHOICE and it pisses you off that Obama is smart enough to choose wisely.

and all this "Oblama the terrorist" crap, grow up. this isn't the playground; it's your future, your planet, your livelihood (if you still have one, after 8 years of financial mismanagement by the idiot you voted for TWICE).

why should anyone listen to you anyway, when you've been so wrong about so much? go scrape the "W04" stickers off your rusted bumpers...it's like driving a dunce cap all over town.

Posted by: clay cmh | August 23, 2008 11:10 AM | Report abuse

While not my top choice I am pleased to support both with my money and time, not to mention my vote. Those trashing it are clearly GOP trolls who would trash Obama if he chose Jesus as VP.

There is no doubt Hillary and Bill will give great support, starting next week at the convention, if not she could lose her seat here and he could add one more strike against what could have been one of the best presidencies in history. I say that because I believe his 'blue dress' cost us the White House in 2000.

As for who is doing most of the trashing on the blogs I have a theory. It is clear it is someone out of work, or soon will be. It is someone of little intellect. I vote W.

Posted by: patrick nyc | August 23, 2008 11:09 AM | Report abuse

The choice of Biden makes no difference. The Democrat running for President is Obama. He does not have the management experience to run a 7-11, much less the biggest corporation in the world (the U.S. Government). He is an empty suit. The person who should be upset is Britney Spears. Recent personal problems aside, she has risen from humble beginnings to sell millions of albums, put on sold-out concert tours, and reached the pinnacle of her profession. The McCain commercial lumped her in with Paris Hilton and Barak Obama who have accomplished NOTHING in their lives, yet are treated like rock stars. Joe Biden changes none of that reality.

Posted by: dog | August 23, 2008 11:05 AM | Report abuse

This guy Biden

has gotten more through congress than anyone in the past year with a broken congress...

has more knowledge in his pinky of the world than any other person in office...

understands first hand what it is like to be a kid in a family that loses everything

will tear anyone they put in front of him to shreds on FACTS.

and there is no one that can walk Obama and the change...through Washington and through the comfort of Americans' fears than Joe Biden.

and Hillary supporters,

Hillary needs Obama to win. We will lose her in the senate if he doesn't. that is not somethreat that is reality with her senate seat in NY.

and if she loses caroline Kennedy will step in yes (or she is going to move to MA and run for her uncle's seat if Obama wins)

but please think clearly not emotionally

and logically...

Biden in the VP role will get more done and help America better than Hillary would...

it's not about who has the most hearts...

it is about who will be most effective in THIS specific role...

and sorry unfortunately with an Obama presidency...that is Biden.

Posted by: dl | August 23, 2008 10:56 AM | Report abuse

This guy Biden

has gotten more through congress than anyone in the past year with a broken congress...

has more knowledge in his pinky of the world than any other person in office...

understands first hand what it is like to be a kid in a family that loses everything

will tear anyone they put in front of him to shreds on FACTS.

and there is no one that can walk Obama and the change...through Washington and through the comfort of Americans' fears than Joe Biden.

and Hillary supporters,

Hillary needs Obama to win. We will lose her in the senate if he doesn't. that is not somethreat that is reality with her senate seat in NY.

and if she loses caroline Kennedy will step in yes (or she is going to move to MA and run for her uncle's seat if Obama wins)

but please think clearly not emotionally and logically

Biden in the VP role will get more done and help America better than Hillary would...

it's not about who has the most hearts...

it is about who will be most effective in THIS specific role...

and sorry unfortunately with an Obama presidency...that is Biden.

Posted by: dl | August 23, 2008 10:53 AM | Report abuse

Wow, so many RNC paid spammers out there. What's the going rate these days guys? 50 cents a post? Pretty sad.

I think this pick balances out the Obama ticket nicely. If McGeezer wants to blance out his ticket I guess he'll have to pick a fetus, lol!

Posted by: Jack | August 23, 2008 10:52 AM | Report abuse

Biden is a good balance. McCain knows less than my turtle & expresses it in about same way. Any idiot voting for McCain gets what he/she deserves: a fascist third-world America. Is that what you idiots want?

Posted by: Omar | August 23, 2008 10:51 AM | Report abuse

A quick canvassing of the internet reflects a general consensus (minus the trolls and haters) that Biden was the right pick under the circumstances Barry now faces. Actually a brilliant pick.

Joe's in his 60s. This will be Joe's last hurrah so he will give it everything he's got. Joe's knowledge of official Washington, Barry's opponent, and the whole media game help BO take this thing to a whole new level. Plus Joe cannot be bullied or intimidated by the attack machine.

And how good was the "3am" phone call/text message to announce Joe? Great sense of humor. If this race weren't so nasty, a Kaine-type pick might have made sense; but these times call for Joseph Biden.

Posted by: Captain America | August 23, 2008 10:48 AM | Report abuse

As a woman, it's disheartening to see so many of my sisters having a hard time accepting Hillary's loss. For too long women had to fight against the imagages of women being "emotional" and "hysterical". And seeing these Hillary supporters act this way only fufills those sterotypes. It's really sad that a historical moment like this has to be soiled by them. It's actually embarassing.

Posted by: winterfresh | August 23, 2008 10:44 AM | Report abuse

I am a 68-year-old woman from Arizona who definitely will NOT vote for John McCain. I think Obama/Biden is a great ticket! They complement one another.

I think Biden is an honorable man and that Obama can still be an effective change person with his help. Part of the climate of change they will bring is that Barack wants Joe to be a "working VP" and not just a figurehead. They will set a new standard to emulate for the presidency in the future.

Don't think that the only way to have change is to not have anyone who has ever been in Washington before. A good way to have change is to meld someone with a new vision with someone who has good experience AND is willing to help bring about the needed changes. Obama/Biden is perfect in my book.

You Hillary supporters need to grow up! Obama won and she lost, not because he stole the primaries or any other thing you want to tell yourselves...but because she came with just too much baggage. Don't you recall all the scandals from the Clinton years? Plus she showed herself to be a liar during the primary and someone who will say or do anything to get elected.

And I don't think she is a good role model for women, either. She did not climb her way to the top...she rode in on Bill's shirt tails. No, I was never a Hillary fan...and I'm glad she is not our nominee.

Posted by: GrammaCarol | August 23, 2008 10:39 AM | Report abuse

Now this is SMART CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN!

OBAMA/BIDEN 2008!

Posted by: TruAmerican! | August 23, 2008 10:39 AM | Report abuse

This is a terrible pick. It will not help Obama. Bidan is from a state that Obama is already going to win. He is another old candidate who has been in DC for years and is past his prime, which is exactly what Obama is supposed to be getting away from. Obama should have chosen a younger, newer face like Sebelius, Kaine, or Bayh, or Wesley Clark who may not be young but he is not tainted by DC (forgive me if I misspelled any of their names). Bidan has too much dirt on him (cheating in law school is REALLY BAD and unacceptable) and he proved in his own presidential run in 1987 that he cannot take criticism on a national scale. Will this pick lose the election for Obama? No, but the Obama camp had a chance here to really bury McCain after a rough August from the Republicans going dirty. Instead, he picks someone that will not excite anyone, and keeps things really at the status quo. Obama is still the favorite, but he has left McCain with a chance to really upstage the Dems with his VP pick. Despite the fact that their messages are different, I will not say Bidan hurts Obama, yet. Bidan definately does not help Obama win this election, which is the whole point of the VP selection. Good Luck Obama

Posted by: mcgratsp | August 23, 2008 10:39 AM | Report abuse

In 2002, Barack Obama Supported Infanticide and I've Got the Transcript of His Words

http://www.redstate.com/diaries/redstate/2008/aug/21/in-2002-barack-obama-supported-infanticide-a/

Posted by: rtf | August 23, 2008 10:24 AM | Report abuse

Paul at 9:45 is incorrect Obama will sink much faster

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Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2008 10:23 AM | Report abuse

OBAMA BIN BIDEN 08

This really sounds like a winning ticket - now which state were they supposed to carry?


.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2008 10:18 AM | Report abuse

It's pretty funny that the Obama and Biden anti-messages in these comments and elsewhere, with few exceptions, are ungrammatical, misspelled, name-calling, poorly researched re-runs of the Internet hoax e-mails being circulated among the dittoheads. That also goes for the ones purportedly written by Hillary supporters (who are probably dittoheads in drag). The candidates aren't perfect, nor are their positions on everything perfectly aligned with mine. But they are far, far superior in intelligence, judgment, experience, and humanity to the current administration, as well as to McCain and whomever his McVeep is.

Posted by: Feminist4Obama-Biden | August 23, 2008 10:17 AM | Report abuse

Just on the media tactics side, Obama's use of cell phones to tell the faithful was a great PR gimmick: http://bernays-sauce.blogspot.com/2008/08/public-relations-in-news.html

Posted by: Bernays Sauce | August 23, 2008 10:07 AM | Report abuse

Assuming that, "It's the economy, stupid" and this one doesn't miraculously improve in the next two and a half months, AND assuming Barack is reasonably effective in turning the economy around (not hard, drop the financially ruinous Iraq war, drop the Bush tax give aways, maybe add a bit of revenue producing tariff...) Who does Barack pick in 2012 for a running mate? Biden IS old. Four years hence do the Democrats try to find a plausible VP to run for President four years later? Biden has the advantage that his Senate seat probably gets filled by a younger, reelectable Democrat. Since Barack's seat also, likely, gets a Democrat, the Dems only need eleven of the Republican seats up for grabs to filibuster proof the Senate.

But the bubbling hatred from the anti Obama boys says that there will be no decrease in the efforts of the Rovian junta to smear any and all Democrats this time around. If Republicans actually want a more civil political arena, then come November they need to stay home, or vote for Libertarians, or other such parties, provided they can't stomach voting Democrat in protest of their parties repulsive tactics.

Posted by: ceflynline@msn.com | August 23, 2008 10:04 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: SoonerThought.blogspot.com | August 23, 2008 10:02 AM | Report abuse

God bless Barry and Joe. Now, all hands on deck.

Cap

Posted by: Captain America | August 23, 2008 9:56 AM | Report abuse

Hilarious:

This year during one of the democratic debates Senator Joe Biden made this statement about Obama:

"I think he can be ready (to be President), but right now I don't
believe he is. The presidency is not something that lends itself to on-
the-job training."


HA HAA HAAA HAAAAAAAAAAA


.

Posted by: 37th&OStreet | August 23, 2008 9:52 AM | Report abuse

Obama's choice of Biden has sealed the deal for me. I can now vote Democratic again this year. I was very nervous about Obama's experience, but adding someone with Biden's experience to the ticket is a relief to me. Please listen and get to know who he really is and stop with the plagarizing thing. He repeated that same speech many times always citing the source. One time he left it out by accident and the Dukakis campaign hit him for it. Please tell me that there is anyone that is above these kinds of errors. As for the "change" thing, Joe Biden for years has worked with both sides of the aisle in the Senate to get things done. For example, he has a very close relationaship with Dick Lugar and Chuck Hagel. Working across the aisle is change. Finally, if you were a Hillary Clinton supporter and you would consider voter voting for McCain you are not paying an ounce of attention to what he stands for. I felt badly that she lost, but the pick of Joe Biden should be a comfort to you as he and Hillary have often stated similar positions. If you want to blame anyone for her defeat, blame the media and her own campaign committee more so than Barack Obama. Remember, things get said in primaries and should then be forgotten during the general election.

Posted by: JB | August 23, 2008 9:52 AM | Report abuse

How petty Obama and his people can be?Never considered Hillary? Never even consulted her?And whatsup with the 3AM text message?To diss Hillary?I am sure all these will excite Clinton and her supporters to rally behind Obama.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2008 9:51 AM | Report abuse

I've long considered Obama the latter day George McGovern and his VP pick confirms it.

Joe Bidenhas to be the worst pick since Tom Ealeton. The news and ads will coontinually his statement that the surge won't work and that we should divide Iraq into three separate entities. Great plan Joe! So much for is wisdom and insights on international policy.

Posted by: Lou Scanon | August 23, 2008 9:50 AM | Report abuse

Obama will get ZERO bounce coming out of the convention.

As usual, he will lose 1% every month until election day.

Posted by: Paul | August 23, 2008 9:45 AM | Report abuse

Too much negativity out there people. But that's the Republican way. Attack the opposition any and every way you can. Experience, qualifications, compassion and intelligence doesn't matter. Here's their argument -- we don't like his wife and his running mate has hair plugs, so he obviously shouldn't be elected.

I'm tired of this BS. We're in a recession, 2 wars, a housing crisis and gas is $4, and the best you can do is hair plugs??? Please. Thanks, 8 years of Bush/Cheney/MaCain -- thanks for nothing. I'm done with you. I'm going with Obama.

www.republicansforobama.org.

Posted by: Fed up | August 23, 2008 9:42 AM | Report abuse

"Rounding out the ticket" only makes sense IF they actually gave credit to Democrats for rounding out tickets. Delaware??? Delaware????

Posted by: OH | August 23, 2008 9:38 AM | Report abuse

Great - another Senator from the North East - how is this strategic? - Delaware is in the bag now?

Posted by: OH | August 23, 2008 9:35 AM | Report abuse

Chris - Mark my words. Look for an Obama bounce coming out of the convention that will be insurmountable for McCain.

Biden's experience, which exceeds McCain's, rounds out the Obama ticket and will help in those demographics where Hillary was strong.

As tasteful as it is for many Republicans, McCain will be forced to choose Romney thus producing a losing combination.

Posted by: Ted from Lewes DE | August 23, 2008 9:35 AM | Report abuse

John McCain's new ad:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDVUPqoowf8

Beautiful.

Posted by: trisha | August 23, 2008 9:35 AM | Report abuse

Joseph R. Biden, Jr. From one Joe to another, welcome. Great pick. Great pick.
Great pick. Great pick.

As this race has turned nasty (attacks on BO patriotism, his wife) and foolish (e.g., Brittany Spears), it was clear BO needed someone who could answer the attacks every day, every moment, and bring foreign policy credentials that would cut off that line of attack against BO. That's Joe.

Joe is "articulate and clean" and enjoys spending every Sunday on Meet the Press answering their redundant questions. Joe is tough enough to go on Faux News and stare down their zaniness. He has been quadruple-vetted (ran for pres. twice) -- no problems there. Plus he knows Mac better than anyone in the Senate, big plus.

Now that Dowd and other NYT Times journalists have exposed HRC in recent days -- pointing out she has not supported BO as promised, has not discouraged the mentals from acting out against BO, hopes he loses (a real team player, she), and argues through surrogates that her campaign debt is BO's obligation (has any candidate since Ancient Rome claimed that before? Julius Caesar? Mugabe?) -- I think she would be hard pressed to continue her bad-faith stealth anti-BO agenda.

Her only shot at 2016 is if BO wins, 'cause if he loses, millions of Americans will be out there reminding the corporate media that she was the reason. As it is, she has no AA support (probably less than 2%, seriously) beyond Uncle Ben, even less than Wallace did in his heyday. She needs to work on winning that back for her New York Senate race, rather than undermining BO for the GE.

Finally, trolls and harpies, and Mr. "AsperGirl" (AG, the Folsom P. cafeteria opens at 12:15 today, by the way): Stand down, at least for one day. Rest your wings...for one day, please. Have a Corona, relax, and let's start to celebrate BO and Joe's excellent adventure. World Peace...

Posted by: Broadway Joe | August 23, 2008 9:33 AM | Report abuse

Our long, national nightmare is slowly coming to an end. Obama/Biden can deliver the change America desperately needs and longs for.

No more stupid neoconservative ideologies: when oil is stake, republicans used American troops to conquer and occupy Iraq but when all that's at stake is freedom and human rights, republicans ignored Georgia, Darfur, Zimbabwe, Tibet.

It's time for change and for us to employ America's vast diplomatic skills to solve problems and let the military rest for while.

And I sincerely HOPE that McSame has "the balls" to pick Condi as his running mate. It would be just one more example of how closely aligned with Bush/Cheney McCain really is.

The debates are going to be some of the most exciting in decades: It's going to be exhilarating watching the McCain meltdown live on television. And the day after the first Obama/McCain debate, the McCain campaign will once again remind us that McCain doesn't actually SPEAK for the McCain Campaign.

Against Biden, Pawlenty is toast. Against Biden, Mitt will look pretty but stupid, having been assigned the task of defending the last seven years of republican policy.

If you think McCain is a "maverick," why do you think that? Check out his voting record. He says he's a maverick but he votes like a kooky neo-konservative kristian.

If you think McCain is a "hero," why do you think that? Because he was a prisoner in Viet Nam? So were many thousands of our military. That qualifies McCain how, exactly? "I know how to win wars," McCain blusters, though he has never actually served in or commanded troops in any war America has won. McCain's only solution to an international crisis is to use American troops. Is that what McCain supporters really want: US troops in Georgia? A new war with Russia? McCain must reinstate the draft to come up with enough US troops to accomplish his goals. McCain would get a lot of Americans killed for nothing more than his "ambitions."

McCain doesn't know how many houses he lives in. He thinks our economy is humming along for those of us in the middle class. Who haven't had a meaningful raise in years, who are being laid off to ship our jobs to India and Argentina, who are paying four bucks for a gallon of milk, who can't find the extra money to save for our kid's education, much less pay for their doctor's bills.

McCain is old. McCain is seriously out of touch with the realities of modern American life.

Obama isn't perfect. But I'd settle for imperfect change than absolutely no change at all.

McCin is very dangerous.

Posted by: dastubbs | August 23, 2008 9:27 AM | Report abuse

You "lifelong Democrats" would rather see McCain in the White House? He thinks our economic woes are just in our heads. Don't forget the president gets to appoint over 6,000 federal employees to run our government. He also appoints the people who oversee the people he appoints. That's terrifying after seeing what Bush and Co. did with that responsibility. BTW, McCain wouldn't really have to appoint anyone because it would be the same right wing lunatics that Dubya has in place. Please get over the Hillary thing and vote for your country's future. I wanted Hillary to be the V.P. choice, too. I voted for her in the primary. But I know that compared to McCain, Barack would be an excellent president. Don't forget things like the price of oil and gas and all energy for that matter--all because of McCain's financial and economic advisior, Phil Gramm. He's the reason we have $4 gasoline. And he would be running our nation's economy. That alone is reason enough to vote Obama. Please come around and vote for Obama/Biden. Our country and our planet aren't going to have any more last chances if McShame gets into the White House!

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Posted by: AsperGirl | August 23, 2008 9:03 AM | Report abuse

Congratulations to the Obama/Biden team,

Finally after years of Bush and whats his name, America has a team with some brains.

I think Vice-President Joseph Biden will be the most active, involved, and visible Vice-President the nation has seen in decades.

A perfect balanced team of caring Americans will run the country without their finger on the trigger all the time.

Confidence in America will return, the leadership of the country will regain the trust of other nations, America will be respected once again.

Posted by: Ken | August 23, 2008 9:01 AM | Report abuse

>> 2008 wrote: "How predictable, Aspercream up at the crack of dawn, running to the keyboard to run her usual inane patter, complete with laziest form of argument, the cut and paste of articles."

If you look at my posts, and it does seem as if you are tracking me, I'm not cutting and pasting articles.

You're just following my posts, trying to misrepresent them. How many cut-and-paste article posts do you see here?

Aren't you supposed to be over at DailyKos, memorizing the talking points and the message du jour to be logging on to news sites pretending to be multiple users, and spewing all over? Or are you lame shots at me, misrepresenting my posts, just warm up for the sociopathic, trashy DailyKos groupthink that you have already memorized for the day?

You DailyKos people are cyberbullies, cyberstalkers, and harass and attack people with opposition views. DailyKos bullied and persecuted and pushed out Clinton supporters, those who refused to swallow John Edwards' lies. They talk about Republicans as if they are animals, and sit around spewing hate speech and conspiracy theories and cyberbully abuse in "hidden" threads under the surface of the DailyKos website all day.

Leave me alone, you DailyKos freak. Stalking people on boards is creepy. Please take your cyberbully behavior back to DailyKos and stop harassing me.

Your prolonged fascination with me is off-topic, it's not interesting or useful and your criticisms aren't smart or responsive to my points. All you are doing is showing your fixation on me.

Posted by: AsperGirl | August 23, 2008 9:01 AM | Report abuse

McCain said he might pick an unconvential candidate, if so, expect him to pick the attractive Babe who use to be the CEO for Hewlett-Packard before she got canned.

Posted by: bhoomes | August 23, 2008 8:56 AM | Report abuse

The one rounder between Biden and Romney should be entertaining. That's about it. Race is between Obama and McCain. Obama not showing me anything, on economy especially. He's green and cocky. I'm waiting for Hillary in four years. Will pull Republican this year. First time for everything.

Posted by: philly dealer | August 23, 2008 8:55 AM | Report abuse

Because Obama had to use a 3 a.m. cell phone buzz to smack Hillary with his VP pick, I just sent John McCain a small donation.

I urge other Clinton supporters to do the same, now that she is not on the Dem ticket, every time Obama and his supporters kick her from now on, like he did with this 3 a.m. cell phone text message.

***********

It's 3 a.m. The cell phone buzzes. A text mssage from Barack Obama forms on the LCD screen:

"No way, Hillary! And no to all your supporters, too!"

WOW. If I had any hope for him (and I didn't) this dashes it. Obama is petty and holds a grudge. What a build-up to a petty moment: a 3 a.m. text message by phone is clearly intended to smack Hillary. Obama's immaturity and grievance-minded wife's influence shows through.

HELLO JOHN MCCAIN DO YOU NEED ANOTHER VOLUNTEER? AND HOW ABOUT SOME MORE DONATIONS?

Posted by: AsperGirl | August 23, 2008 8:51 AM | Report abuse

...Much to my surprise, Joe Biden consistently came up with the best ideas, conveyed economically and with style. Joe Biden is someone I trust and I will be voting for the Democratic ticket now that he is on board.

*********
That's exactly why Biden should be Pres. Not Obama. V.P. doesn't do anything other than wait for the Pres. to get shot/killed. Biden as V.P. is an insult to all of his experience and qualifications. What's wrong with this picture? Biden is V.P. to Bugs Bunny! Let's face it...what does Obama have to qualify for POTUS? It couldn't be a promise for change...what does that mean anyway? Change what and how? Not all change is good. It doesn't matter anyway though, Obama won't get shot/killed and Biden will never have a chance to do anything on the losing ticket because Obama will be defeated by McCain.

Clinton 2012 after 4 years of McCain.

Posted by: Shelby | August 23, 2008 8:50 AM | Report abuse

It looks like cotton candy. Life is like a bowl of fiberglass. You never know what is in it...

Posted by: zazzle | August 23, 2008 8:45 AM | Report abuse

I eat fiberglass

Posted by: zazzle | August 23, 2008 8:43 AM | Report abuse

We've spent billions and lost thousands of our finest - to kill a man named Hussein.
Now - the Dems are nominating an Hussein.
What an embarrassment for America!

Dems for McCain - NO Hussein!

Posted by: zazzle | August 23, 2008 8:41 AM | Report abuse

I'm an Independent and listened to all the candidates in the GOP and Democratic debates. Much to my surprise, Joe Biden consistently came up with the best ideas, conveyed economically and with style. Joe Biden is someone I trust and I will be voting for the Democratic ticket now that he is on board.

Posted by: lndependent | August 23, 2008 8:38 AM | Report abuse

Does the empty chair in the photo above belong to Obama?

why does it's nameplate read "MR. DODO" ?

Photoshop, right?

Posted by: mr. dodo. | August 23, 2008 8:38 AM | Report abuse

Women for McCain? Seriously? They are called Republicans - your vote was never up for grabs.

How predictable, Aspercream up at the crack of dawn, running to the keyboard to run her usual inane patter, complete with laziest form of argument, the cut and paste of articles. Why am I not surprised?

Speaking of houses, is this state of yours as you are on this site 24-7?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvzI2RmPi1c

Posted by: 2008 | August 23, 2008 8:38 AM | Report abuse

It's 3 a.m. The cell phone buzzes. A text mssage from Barack Obama forms on the LCD screen:

"Bite me Hillary! And all your supporters, too!"

WOW. If I had any hope for him (and I didn't) this dashes it. Obama is petty and holds a grudge. What a build-up to a petty moment: a 3 a.m. text message by phone is clearly intended to smack Hillary.

HELLO JOHN MCCAIN DO YOU NEED ANOTHER VOLUNTEER? AND HOW ABOUT SOME MORE DONATIONS?

Posted by: AsperGirl | August 23, 2008 8:35 AM | Report abuse

The both of them are a bit immature for my taste. I like Mccain because he's almost my age and he fought in WWII. He's part of the Greatest Generation and he's very very funny. I make the same mistakes all the time and say silly things too, sometimes. It is much more interesting than some greenhorn reading from his cards perfectly. I see grace in age. Especially when I look in the mirror!

Eleanor Rasdorff
Ft. Lauderdale, Fl

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2008 8:35 AM | Report abuse

>>>>Lifelong Dems like me won't vote for Obama no matter who is V.P.!!! Democratic hotshots will not bully us into an Obamicon state and we will not forget what they did to Clinton. That's why we're voting McCain.

Exactly!!
Obama's race-baiting all during the primary and FALSELY accusing the Clintons of racism - guaranteed this Dem family wouldn't vote for Oblahma.


Posted by: Bill | August 23, 2008 8:31 AM | Report abuse

Well, Obama STILL has a problem with the Hillary Voters myself included. He should have picked Oprah or Johnny Depp or Matthew McConaughey.

Good Luck winning without the Female Vote, Changling Election Thief!!

They stole this from Hillary and we're not gonna forget it. I would vote for Saddam Hussein before I'd vote for Barack Hussein. Biden does nothing to change that. Obama should step down at the convention and let all Hillary supporters run the show. We'll show him what Women can do!

Posted by: Shelly Albrighton-Shwartz | August 23, 2008 8:30 AM | Report abuse

A wise and mature pick. Biden is strong on economics and foreign policy and is a steady hand on the tiller. Barack Obama has shown his mettle in making his first key appointment. I wasn't sure about Obama until now, but will now vote for him in November.

Posted by: eastcoast | August 23, 2008 8:28 AM | Report abuse

The Establishment propped up a newbie senator for president.
Hence, Obama chose an Establishment running mate.
Both Bush and Obama represented "change" and chose a father figure from the Establishment.
BAWAHAHAHA!

Posted by: Carla | August 23, 2008 8:28 AM | Report abuse

And what about the hair plugs? Isn't that a perfect metaphor capping the image of an aging, static blowhard?

Cosmetic surgery -- the kind of "change" you can buy.

Ouch. The talking head Democrats aren't acting happy. They look resigned, with forced enthusiasm.

Obama didn't exactly step in it, but he's taken his campaign nowhere special.

This isn't the game-changer he needed.

Posted by: AsperGirl | August 23, 2008 8:25 AM | Report abuse

With Obama's failure to close the deal with women, he chooses as his running mate the man who is only second to Teddy Kennedy in his reputation as a womanizer. Way to go Dems, your lack of respect for women cames shining through again.

Posted by: Tony | August 23, 2008 8:23 AM | Report abuse

McCain taps Larry Craig as VP pick, with his foot, under a stall partition at Minneapolis Airport.

Craig slid his answer under the stall on a "piece of paper" but McCain is keeping up the suspense and refusing to come out of the bathroom and reveal Larry's answer.

Oh, this is sooo exciting!

: )

Oh, BOY!

Posted by: Anony mouse | August 23, 2008 8:23 AM | Report abuse

You know I like Biden and he would make a great President but not a V.P.! He belongs in the Captains seat..not standing next to some clown with no political experience. I think that when Obama loses this will hurt Biden and I think that's a shame. The Obama ship is sinking...Hillary Clinton know it and sailed far away from that ship. Poor Biden will go down with Obama. Just look at the poles! Putting Biden with all of his political experinec in the V.P. position is even more of an insult to voters who value qualifications and experience for the President of the United States. These positions should be reversed. Obama TIED with McCain? Obama should be 20 pt.s ahead of McCain. Obama's screwed in Nov. Why? Lifelong Dems like me won't vote for Obama no matter who is V.P.!!! Democratic hotshots will not bully us into an Obamicon state and we will not forget what they did to Clinton. That's why we're voting McCain. Yeah Obama will get the change he's seeking...we're going to change him right back into a nobody with no political experience in Nov.!

Posted by: Shelby | August 23, 2008 8:23 AM | Report abuse

I watched the presidential debates carefully going into 2008, and Joe Biden was invariably one of the most thoughtful, incisive and articulate candidates from either party. Senator Biden had excellent ideas on how the country should be run and offered these ideas clearly and straightforwardly.

Hats off to Barack Obama for this excellent pick. By choosing Biden, Obama has shown that he makes sound decisions and will surround himself with advisors of substance and quality.

I am looking forward to voting for Barack Obama and Joe Biden in November.

Posted by: L. Ruth | August 23, 2008 8:20 AM | Report abuse

The talking heads on CNN don't seem thrilled with this pick. They're saying all the right things, but they're clearly not excited and a little forced in their praise.

Yup. Obama screwed himself.


Candy Crowley just pointed out that "Biden did say Obama wasn't ready to be president but this happens all the time. Reagan picked Bush even though Bush had called Reagan's economics "Voodoo Economics.""

While Candy Crowley is right, it should also be noted that Bush's verdict that Reagan's "trickle down" was "Voodoo Economics" was right, and stuck throughout Reagan's whole legacy. What saved the America economy was the draconian tight monetary policy started under Jimmy Carter that was such painful medicine for Americans and businesses.

The pain of the interest rate hikes under Jimmy Carter is what helped him fail to be reelected, but it's what brought inflation under control eventually, not Reagan's "Voodoo Economics". Reagan's "Voodoo Economics" only made the rich richer, gave rise to a culture of wall street excesses with banking schemes and derivative products that we still are inflicted with today, and he created the homeless problem.

Candy Crowley noted, correctly, that Reagan picked Bush and got away with it, even though the more experienced politician had decreed that Bush had "Voodoo economics". But she failed to note that Bush's verdict on Reagan's economics was right and the country suffered from it.

Similarly, Biden's verdict that Obama wasn't prepared to be president, an opinion that he stated and restated, is correct. The Republicans will use that. And they should.

Posted by: AsperGirl | August 23, 2008 8:20 AM | Report abuse

McCain is gonna whip the floor with the race trading Bidden. McCain was in Vietnam for many many years and knows how to do some damage. Bidden is just a politician who never been held in any prison, home OR abroad.

Posted by: Luther Shifflet III | August 23, 2008 8:19 AM | Report abuse

For all of you that are excited about Obama and “Change”, I encourage you to read the following series:

http://www.ibdeditorials.com/series8.aspx

If you read this series still support Obama and think he will win then you are irreparably broken intellectually.
Also, If you or your Father and Grandfather worked hard their entire lives for the railroad or in a factory like mine did in order to support a family and live out their part of the American Dream, then you should be offended to the core by Obama’s latest remarks. If you were not offended then you are un-American as he is:

“Everybody’s watching what’s going on in Beijing right now with the Olympics , Think about the amount of money that China has spent on infrastructure. Their ports, their train systems, their airports are vastly the superior to us now, which means if you are a corporation deciding where to do business you’re starting to think, Beijing looks like a pretty good option.”

This remark is a slap in the face to every hard working American. Also, If he would do his homework, these vastly “superior” communist still manufacture and run coal fired steam locomotives, rip-off our ideas and don’t honor our copyrights, use missile technology stolen from us (remember the “stolen” W88 warhead technology during the Clinton administration), have the worst environmental record on the planet, and are the worst when it come to human rights. Also, the ports he mentioned are owned and operated by the Dubai Ports Authority.

Did Obama go to China and see this first hand? He is a Marxist so of course he thinks they are superior.
Wake up people!

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2008 8:18 AM | Report abuse

Barack HUSSEIN Obiden

There's no way. It can't be.

Posted by: Jarvis McDermott | August 23, 2008 8:17 AM | Report abuse

I can’t believe the media is not pointing this out….

Obama had the right to pick any VP he saw fit. I get that and respect that. But I think what it says is important.

Here is the dilemma I have.
With Hillary having somewhere near 18MM votes, how can his judgment be such that there would ever be a stronger candidate to run with?
Obama has said he wants to bring change and that obviously will mean a willingness to reach across party lines and work and inspire all sorts of different people and opinions in order to succeed in that goal. But, he can’t do manage to do the one thing that would have made the greatest difference in getting elected with a person that is in his own party. If he truly wants to help the American people and believes he is the one that could lead the change then why was he willing to sacrifice for the American people the best way he would have been in position to make that happen. Is he saying it would be too difficult to work with her, to handle the Bill baggage, or the problems that might bring? If he thinks he can’t overcome that problem, what makes him think he can help overcome the real problems America faces? Forget, Bill, who donated to the library and all those other excuses….they can’t be any worse that Mr. Bidden saying Obama is not ready to lead and this is not a job you can train for on the job. All of which can be overcome. Forget his base would leave I don’t buy it, they would not switch to McCain.

To me Obama by his VP choice is clearly saying - I am not willing to make the tough choices that would make me uncomfortable or take from my spotlight to ensure that I am in a position to best help the people of America change. This is not new politics as proclaimed this is politics as normal.

I am not a PUMA, not a racist, not even a feminist but just an average educated middle class American that is appalled at a lack of wise judgment on Obamas part.

Posted by: Appalled | August 23, 2008 8:14 AM | Report abuse

Obama got it right. Biden has his past, but he's learned to control himself this year. Nothing controversial since that "clean" quip last year.

Biden helps with some of Obama's lacking qualities.

http://www.political-buzz.com/

Posted by: matt | August 23, 2008 8:14 AM | Report abuse

barack HUSSEIN obama has fallen into my trap and picked a crazy man as his vice president. All kneel before the McCaininator. He is a war hero, single handedly helping all POWs in Nam to escape to freedom, well documented in the eighties movie "Delta Force" where the role of McCain was played by none other than the great American Chuck Norris.

McCain is angry and that's why white americans like me can relate to him. He's the type of guy that, if he drove himself through traffic, shoot, I bet even in the back of his limos, he goes crazy cussing out all the drivers and turning beet red and pounding his fist on the seats. I can relate to that, for sure.

And McCain, though he can't deliver a speech to save his life, or any unborn lives for that matter, is pretty good in an all white church setting, where, every Sunday, I feel most comfortable, too, except for not being able to smoke during the sermon.

So, Hussein Bin Lama really messed up on Biden because I don't even like Biden. He's a Democrat Liberal Sykopath who may actually steal the spotlight from Baracka, especially if he goes off on a tyrade and insults people. Folks are going to wonder, why didn't snObama say that first?

Well, cause he aint a crazy white dude like Biden or McCain. He's just a Harvard boy with a silver spoon in his mouth and he can never compete with the white rage of years and years of imperfection in our lives.

Cheney gets it, sure. He's another one. That's the key to the elections. You gotta get an angry, boiling, seething old white guy. That's the face of the electorate. That's the personality of our Great nation. We're like an angry old white guy stuck in traffic. That's why nobody wants to mess with us, which, after all is the only True measure of a Blessed Land like ours.

God Bless.

Posted by: Stuart Davis, Jr | August 23, 2008 8:11 AM | Report abuse

It's worth noting that although pundits question if Biden's 'insider' status is contrary to Obama's message of change, Biden is 65 years old and, as a democrat, his age might be a real benefit with senior voters. In fact, rather than put him out on the trail talking about Iraq, I'd send him to Florida in a blue-collared shirt and talk about social security and the economy. Save the foreign policy stuff for Meet the Press. This election is going to be about the economy, and this VP pick, if they take advantage of it, will win the the White House.

Posted by: WooHoo | August 23, 2008 8:09 AM | Report abuse

Picking Biden though leans me more toward voting for Obama-Biden, but still waiting to see who McCain picks. He'll never pick Lieberman, the nuts jobs in his party will stay home in droves come November busy with prayer circles.

Posted by: Asleep | August 23, 2008 8:07 AM | Report abuse

Joe Biden: straight shooter, outstanding foreign policy experience, gravitas,an achiever, a winner.

Barack Obama: strong, clear vision, willing to pick the best, ready to lead on Day One. A Decider we can rely on and trust.

The Democratic ticket: a winner in November!

Posted by: DemsWin | August 23, 2008 8:07 AM | Report abuse

The text went out at 3am on a Saturday morning? How stupid was that? The pick was the buzz at the water cooler all day yesterday. This is like the Bushies dropping some more bad news after everyone goes to bed on Friday night. Someone dropped the bomb on this one.

Posted by: Asleep | August 23, 2008 8:05 AM | Report abuse

Biden - BFF with the credit card industry.
And Obama voted AGAINST capping credit card interest rates.

Dems for McCain - NO Hussein!

Posted by: Frank | August 23, 2008 8:03 AM | Report abuse

Two fundamentally decent, intelligent, honest, candidates on the same ticket? Wow! That already ensures they've got at least one more on the ticket than John McCain will.

Posted by: GRT | August 23, 2008 8:02 AM | Report abuse

"The history of Biden's gaffes, however, show the risks of naming him to the ticket. He was forced out of the race for President in 1988 after Michael Dukakis' campaign leaked evidence that Biden had plagiarized a speech from British Labour Party leader Neil Kinnock, and in doing so had misrepresented his own class background. In June 2006, Biden offended Indian-Americans when he claimed a great relationship with them thanks to the fact that in Delaware, "You cannot go to a 7-Eleven or a Dunkin' Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent." Six months later he made the infamous comment about Obama's cleanliness."

"Behind Obama's Bet on Biden", NY Times.

It seems to me that Biden is the black sitcom stereotype of the bumbling but nice, cluelessly-racist old school old white executive.

In addition to the other things Biden brings to the picture (foreign policy background, Jewish appeal, maturity), this is an African American comfort-zone pick for Obama's clan.

Posted by: AsperGirl | August 23, 2008 8:01 AM | Report abuse

Wrong about Rice. Georgia clearly picked this battle and deserved its comeuppance. I'd like to see Shashlik tried and convicted for war crimes.

And then all Mlle. Rice did was help implement the French policy.

She is an idiot, and works for a bigger one.

Posted by: whatt???? | August 23, 2008 7:59 AM | Report abuse

Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha!!!!!!

Saturdady Cartoons are Back, and Funnier than Ever!

Change: BIDEN???????

You mean the Tobacco Lobbyists' Best Friend Ever????

The Plagiarist with Hair Plugs????

The Ambulance Chaser Lawyers' BFF???? See Dickie Scruggs, Prison Inmate, His Biggest Supporter, with son Zach, following in the family footsteps to prison.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!

"Trial Lawyer"s Big Money Candidate!!!!!!

Thank you, thank you, thank you Obama Faux Intellectual Idiots!!!!!!!!

Posted by: ByeDems | August 23, 2008 7:59 AM | Report abuse

I was so disappointed in his pick, as he should have chosen William Ayers his life long friend as a running mate, consistent with his message of change.

Biden as a choice is 1000% political, disingenuous and Biden is there to have a white face on TV to capture the white vote.

Posted by: ray c | August 23, 2008 7:58 AM | Report abuse

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Posted by: New Obama Voter! | August 23, 2008 7:57 AM | Report abuse

yeah, PLUS, Condoleeza has a Chevron Oil Tanker named after her.

She actually sat on the Board of Chevron.

She's the MAN!

Go Condi! Next best VP pick to Dick Cheney.

Can Cheney run as VP again? That would be AWESOME

Posted by: Cheney/Rice '08 | August 23, 2008 7:57 AM | Report abuse

An out of touch angry racist socialist/communist and an out of touch "wrinkly old white haired" lying dude. What a winning ticket. Not

Posted by: Fightertom34 | August 23, 2008 7:56 AM | Report abuse

I heard Joe Biden speak at the University of Kansas about two years ago. It was the day Scotter Libby was indicted and I had to chose between listening to Patrick Fitzgerald on TV or Joe in person. I taped Fitzgerald and I'm glad I did.

Joe Biden was impressive. He was a bit more hawkish than I expected; he said there are times when a bit of force can go a long way. But he wasn't obsessive about force, nor did he revert to it as an immediate option.

Later on Joe mentioned he was working with Kansas' Senator Sam Brownback about Darfur. And he went into details of that problem.

On that autumn day Joe Biden demonstrated a depth and warmth to his presentation that I hope he can repeat when talking to the American public now. He'll be a great running mate.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2008 7:55 AM | Report abuse

I LOVE Biden... I was leaning toward McCain because Obama doesn't have the experience and in these times... But with Joe Biden in his corner, I am strongly leaning towards the Dems this November.

Biden is a regular Joe with tons of foreign policy experience. He speaks to foreign leaders more than Bush does and he's a strong Union supporter.

He's basically a no nonsense, common sense guy. It's a Great pick, for either party.

Posted by: Shirley Jackson, Front Royal, VA | August 23, 2008 7:53 AM | Report abuse

>>what???? wrote: "Condolisa? Are you joking? The worst secretary of state to the worst president in history? This is a joke, right?"

She had little power in the first 6 years of the Bush Administration, when the neocons (Wolfowitz, Rumsfeld, et al) dominated Bush. After 2006, when the last of them were dumped, she gained more control over foreign policy.

Apart from the lastest Russian-Georgia conflict, which is pretty one-sided Russian aggression for a calculated plan on Russia's part, all the latest advances in U.S. foreign policy -- from agreements with North Korea and dismantling of their nuclear program to emerging political directions in Iraq -- are the result of her grown influence.


The problem with the Democrats is that they are so tunnel-vision in their view of Republicans and so blanket in their condemnations, that they fail to see real talent where it exists.

The first black female Secretary of State is really brilliant, talented, and effective. She deserves some recognition.

And if you ask me, she's a lot more articulate, clean and nice-looking than Obama. Have you ever heard her testify? She has a clarity, substance and depth that the shallow and emtpy-rhetoric Obama totally lacks.

It's really sad how the black community has ignored this totally amazing black Republican woman. Because of the way she's been ignored, she really is like a "dark horse".

If McCain named her as VP, brought her out talking in front of America, people would be riveted at how brilliant, substantial and meaningful her words are compared to Obama's. She's the real thing, of what Obama postures to me. Just by putting her out there talking, McCain would be undermining Obama.

Condoleeza Rice is awesome. Watch her on Cspan sometime.

Posted by: AsperGirl | August 23, 2008 7:52 AM | Report abuse

notice grinning looney joe is not going to quit his day job.
if the closest he gets to the big chair is obama's lap, at least he can hold onto the saddle horn. i bet he will like that.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2008 7:51 AM | Report abuse

Where does this leave Hillary? Retirement......?

Posted by: Observer | August 23, 2008 7:51 AM | Report abuse

Yeah! Let's Kick AS

Posted by: K2007 | August 23, 2008 7:49 AM | Report abuse

Obama just made the mistake I've been predicting. Now I'm just waiting for the other shoe to drop: for McCain to select a prominent republican woman as his candidate for VP.

Posted by: Bill | August 23, 2008 7:48 AM | Report abuse

Biden -

Plagarist
Big Mouth
Arrogant
Pro-choice "Catholic"

Great choice!

Posted by: Rick | August 23, 2008 7:47 AM | Report abuse

Not only can't the Democrats run our Do Nothing Congress they can't evern run their own party.

How do you liberals like this ticket?


Hellloooo President McCain and Vice President Romney...........looking forward to 16 more years on Republican control of the White House and thus........Supreme Court nominee's.............YES !

Posted by: allen Ridge | August 23, 2008 7:47 AM | Report abuse

Old Joe Biden.

Talk about the "Guy I'd Like to Have a Beer With" Test!

Biden is cool. He's off the cuff and real. I've liked him for years, but he can go a little "loose cannon" at the mouth from time to time.

I Bet that mouth really gets loose after a couple Beers, too.

Good Pick by Barry.

I didn't see that one coming.

Posted by: Bin Laden Been Hidin, Time for Joe Biden | August 23, 2008 7:46 AM | Report abuse

"Blowhard Could Be Just What Obama Needs - Charles Hurt, New York Post"

Good headline. "Blowhard" is a good one-word description of Biden. Old, scattered blowhard. Biden is really the verbally scatterbrained old guy that Obama has been trying to portray McCain as.

Posted by: AsperGirl | August 23, 2008 7:43 AM | Report abuse

Condolisa? Are you joking? The worst secretary of state to the worst president in history? This is a joke, right?

Posted by: what???? | August 23, 2008 7:43 AM | Report abuse

This announcement was anticlimatic, scheduled to run after the week's news cycle. Am I wrong, or did I hear that the announcement was made at 3am this Saturday morning? I joked that Obama was going to put a gunney sack on his veep's head during the televised announcement. I guess 3am is better? What's driving the weekend announcements for both presidential candidates?

I also wonder how this choice fits with Obama's "change" campaign slogan. Mr. Biden has been in the Congress for over 30 years. I was hoping he would think outside the box, choosing a veep from outside the beltway. We have a country with over 300 million people in it, and our pool of talent should be larger than the U.S. Congress and former presidents / first ladies. This is a country full of educated people. Why are these choices so incestuous?

Posted by: redd1 | August 23, 2008 7:42 AM | Report abuse

It will be funny to see that Big Mouth Biden muzzled by the Obama campaign. He has already made racist comments about those "strange looking creatures from India" working their a**es off in Dunkin Donuts. Democrats have already lost the Indian-American vote already.

Posted by: discerner | August 23, 2008 7:41 AM | Report abuse

JB is an excellent choice at the level that counts most - he actually could be the Prez on a moment's notice and be up to the job. Beyond that, he brings depth on foreign policy and the ability to shoot straight on the campaign trail. He did the most in the least time during the D debates.

Congratulations, Joe.

Posted by: MarkInAustin | August 23, 2008 7:40 AM | Report abuse

JOBAMA.

BARACK O'BIDEN.

EITHER WAY... THAT'S SOME CATCHY STUFF.

Posted by: JOBAMA O'EIGHT | August 23, 2008 7:40 AM | Report abuse

Seems to me the door is wide open for Condoleeza Rice, now.

McCain should go broke, and double down with the black female stateswoman who blows away Biden as a foreign policy VP pick.

While Biden is talking in his flaky way on TV news channels, Rice would be actually negotiating with Russians and coordinating with allies.

Posted by: AsperGirl | August 23, 2008 7:39 AM | Report abuse

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Posted by: New Obama Voter! | August 23, 2008 7:37 AM | Report abuse

same old, same old politics, same old same old good ole boys, so much for change

Posted by: gm1000 | August 23, 2008 7:35 AM | Report abuse

The Post's own Standards and Ethics says plagiarism is an "unforgivable sin."

Posted by: Bitter Bill | August 23, 2008 7:35 AM | Report abuse

All you Hillary hags need to get off your lazy behinds and contribute to her campaign so she can retire her debt. You folks all are all talk and no action.

Posted by: Hillary Supporter | August 23, 2008 7:18 AM
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no action???? helloooooo......Hillary hags do vote on Nov 2nd.

Posted by: discerner | August 23, 2008 7:35 AM | Report abuse

Joe Biden's shameful treatment of Anita Hill (she wasn't lying Joe) during the Clownman Thomas confirmation cinched it for me.

Joe Biden is an arrogant, plagiarist, who never garnered anything more than pity from me. Pity Delaware has to put up with him.

Posted by: ppoads | August 23, 2008 7:34 AM | Report abuse

Sweet mother of God....I can't believe Obama did this. What the hell was he thinking????????????

Jesus.

Oh well, it was good while it lasted. Christ.

Posted by: joneshn | August 23, 2008 7:33 AM | Report abuse

>>muskrat wrote: "Biden is horrendously arrogant, has a temper that makes McCain's look benign, and keeps making racist remarks in restaurants. Stay tuned: THIS is an accident waiting to happen."

If, as some have said, Obama gets assassinated by some racist or white supremacist, do we really see Biden as president?

God no.

I don't think he ever really recovered from that stroke. I think that's why he's so flaky and stoned acting.

Biden has poor management and organization of his verbal behavior. The pattern of plagiarism, lack of judgment in often-juvenile statements he makes and inconsistencies in his "opinions", makes him seem not quite ready-for-prime time.

It's not reassuring to think Biden is 2nd in line if something happens to Obama. (Although Biden is more reassuring than the notion that Obama would be in the White House!)

Posted by: AsperGirl | August 23, 2008 7:33 AM | Report abuse

after hillary's sore loser behvior during and after the primaries. i would never vote for her if she ran again. and i am a life long democrat

Posted by: never | August 23, 2008 7:33 AM | Report abuse

Biden is a good pick. Get over HRC - she will be the same age as McCain in 2016 and can run then if you still want her. I plan to spend a lot of time at Blockbuster next week - the country is in good hands. In November I'll vote pretty much a straight ticket - well, we do have some offices where we can't get a Democrat to run thanks to the far right and the Bible Belt. Be overjoyed we have two great candidates and a possibilty to put this country back on track. Foreign policy is set with Biden just find somebody to fix the economy and health care and the energy crisis - can't wait to see the cabinet picks.

Posted by: txajohnson | August 23, 2008 7:33 AM | Report abuse

Obama sends one interesting sub-message with this pick. Biden committed that gaff where he called Obama "Clean, articulate", etc.

It seems to me that Obama reveals he did not take those comments as anything other than a poorly phrased but well intended compliment.

This stakes out territory that someone like Jesse Jackson could never claim, since victimhood and grudgeholding seemed always to simmer under the surface with him. I doubt he would have felt he could have publicly forgiven him, let alone embrace him. So Obama signals he is not a "racial" candidate.

As for those making insulting personal comments about the candidates, I would point out that our current president is surely one of the least impressive people ever to hold office. But as a citizen, I don't care about that. I care about his policies and their effect.

Unfortunately, his governance has been a complete fiasco, too.

In any event, why not contrast policy positions to show me why one candidate will be better for me and America? You're personal opinions about a candidate have a practical value that is indistinguishable from zero.

Have a great weekend.

Posted by: xSamplex | August 23, 2008 7:32 AM | Report abuse

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Posted by: New Obama Voter! | August 23, 2008 7:31 AM | Report abuse

Great pick! Barack Obama has shown excellent judgment and outstanding leadership skills by picking the brilliant and capable Joe Biden for his ticket. I have just made my support for Barack and Joe concrete by contributing to the ticket, and hope that others will do the same.

The message: Barack Obama is ready to lead on Day One, because he is secure enough to surround himself with the best talent and experience. Congratulations, Senator Obama, sir!

On to a Democratic victory in November.

Posted by: ANetliner | August 23, 2008 7:30 AM | Report abuse

Yonkers, New York
23 August 2008

Barack Obama has made a very good choice in Senator Joseph Biden as his running mate.

Except probably for Republican Senator Richard Lugar, Democratic Senator Biden is without peer in the U.S. Congress in both deep and thorough knowlege in foreign affairs as well as in length of experience in that area of expertise.

Yes, indeed, Senator Biden wisely complements Barack Obama's sterling qualifications.

And one more thing: This is solid proof that Barack Obama has the benefit of good judgment. He will need this very badly in the days and years to come if he is elected President.

Mariano Patalinjug
MarPatalinjug@aol.com

Posted by: Mariano Patalinjug@aol.com | August 23, 2008 7:30 AM | Report abuse

response to: (Sally Jencks | August 23, 2008 1:52 AM)

Repuglicans have done nothing for women in America, so don't hold your breath. He'll probably pick that wingnut Romney.

Posted by: Dr. Don Key | August 23, 2008 7:29 AM | Report abuse

The gap between Obama's pronouncements ( lofty goals, change) and his decisions , such as adding Biden to his ticket, this gap of credibility keeps growing. Obama is not an agent of change: he is a demagogue who will say anything to get elected. But he does say it well: just like a tv preacher.

I have voted democrat all my life and unless mccain picks lieberman, i am voting for him.

Posted by: paul | August 23, 2008 7:27 AM | Report abuse

>>Anonymous wrote: "SCRABBLE GAME"

"Osama bin Laden"

"Obama Biden"

LOL. I usually don't go for the "Osama bin Landen" word plays but it does kind of work now:

"Osama bin Laden"

"Obama bin Biden"

Posted by: AsperGirl | August 23, 2008 7:27 AM | Report abuse

I had planned to vote for McCain for I just didn't think Obama had quite the experience for this position. But now that he has picked Joe Biden I'm going to vote for him and I'm sure that a lot of my friends will, too. Even if McCain chose Lieberman, I think this is the stronger team.

Posted by: Florida Voter | August 23, 2008 7:27 AM | Report abuse

Checkmate!

Posted by: Mortman | August 23, 2008 7:25 AM | Report abuse

So much for the democratic party including woman. Actually Obama is just as sexist as the rest of them. Did you him this week allegedly before he picked his candidate. "He will do this, "He will be this" Not once a "He or She will be a strong etc"

Most people use the term he or she when talking about an unidentified person, not Obama, because a woman in that position would not cross his mind.

The republicans will probably be just as "good old boy" but I would rather have a good old boy who won't pick my pocket as badly as Obama and the even more liberal Biden will. Because believe it or not this is a woman who got out of the kitchen, makes a decent living and horror of horrors, owns a second home!!

Posted by: dem52 | August 23, 2008 7:24 AM | Report abuse

Man democrats are stupid, every last one of them. They just don't get it. Biden? Obama really is an idiot. I mean this guy was so unpopular among democrats he was like the first to drop out of the primaries. Looks like I'll be sitting this election out.

Posted by: WassabiCracka | August 23, 2008 7:23 AM | Report abuse

"VOTE FOR CHANGE. VOTE FOR CHANGE...
VOTE FOR...BIDEN???"

Well that really shows a great "change" mentality doesn't it?

He could have taken a woman, but we all know how he feels about a woman's place in society.

He could have taken an Hispanic, but he didn't even give a single one a consideration (Happy about your endorsement now Bill Richardson?).

Is age & health a consideration for voters? Biden turns 66 this year and he has a history of medical problems.

Is change what you want to vote for? BIDEN?? Mr. Unltimate Insider? Mr. "We do this the way it has always been done here!"

And didn't Joe B. say something funny about obama & the usual type of black person?

Oh yeah, you obamanites picked a real winner here!!HAH, HAH!

Posted by: Tony S. | August 23, 2008 7:23 AM | Report abuse

Biden is horrendously arrogant, has a temper that makes McCain's look benign, and keeps making racist remarks in restaurants. Stay tuned: THIS is an accident waiting to happen.

Posted by: muskrat | August 23, 2008 7:22 AM | Report abuse

And So We Win!

And by “We,” I mean us, the Republicans. You Democrats are great at fumbling the ball, especially when the goal is right in front of you. Thanks, guys!

— Jack James

Posted by: Jack James | August 23, 2008 7:20 AM | Report abuse

A good pick on balance.
The fact that the McCain campaign has immediately 'slammed' the pick, tells me that it was a good pick, and has some bite. Perhaps PA is leaning Democrat now. From a strategy perspective it may force McCain to reconsider Romney and to counter with Ridge, which in turn will be unpopular with some evangelicals (Ridge is Catholic and pro-CHOICE - a double heresy for evangelicals). Romney is already in disfavor because of his faith and original pro-choice position.

Obama-Biden invites fewer questions than Obama-Clinton, but guarantees that Arkansas will be in McCain's column this November.
The fact that Biden is Catholic will turn off most evangelicals, but will attract a lot of Catholics (67 million in the U.S.), and Obama wasn't going to win evangelicals anyway. Lastly, Delaware will likely remain Democrat in the Senate if Obama wins, therefore the Dem Senate majority is not changed. Like I said - good choice.

Posted by: Bob | August 23, 2008 7:19 AM | Report abuse

SO WHAT if Biden previously criticized Obama's "lack of experience"? That was before his own experience was placed behind Obama.

The bottom line is: Biden's former criticisms were when he didn't think his own experience was going to influence and or guide Obama. Now that he will be able to use his experience to help and guide Obama, I doubt he's worried about Obama's inexperience when his own experience is right behind Obama.

GREAT PICK!

Posted by: Jonathan | August 23, 2008 7:18 AM | Report abuse

All you Hillary hags need to get off your lazy behinds and contribute to her campaign so she can retire her debt. You folks all are all talk and no action.

Posted by: Hillary Supporter | August 23, 2008 7:18 AM | Report abuse

A good pick on balance.
The fact that the McCain campaign has immediately 'slammed' the pick, tells me that it was a good pick, and has some bite. Perhaps PA is leaning Democrat now. From a strategy perspective it may force McCain to reconsider Romney and to counter with Ridge, which in turn will be unpopular with some evangelicals (Ridge is Catholic and pro-life - a double heresy for evangelicals). Romney is already in disfavor because of his faith and original pro-choice position.

Obama-Biden invites fewer questions than Obama-Clinton, but guarantees that Arkansas will be in McCain's column this November.
The fact that Biden is Catholic will turn off most evangelicals, but will attract a lot of Catholics (67 million in the U.S.), and Obama wasn't going to win evangelicals anyway. Lastly, Delaware will likely remain Democrat in the Senate if Obama wins, therefore the Dem Senate majority is not changed. Like I said - good choice.

Posted by: Bob | August 23, 2008 7:18 AM | Report abuse

Biden? Well, at least Biden comes with foreign policy and national security gravitas, he is not the Clintons, and he is clean, articulate and smart (I don't know about the good-looking part).

Posted by: Black and Bitter Like Coffee | August 23, 2008 7:18 AM | Report abuse

Obama bashed Hillary for being part of the "old politics."
Then he selects Biden, a war hawk, who's been in Congress since Nixon was president!!

Obama is quite a con.

NObama!

Posted by: Carla | August 23, 2008 7:17 AM | Report abuse

There's so much stuff on blogs today that there's little new I can add except:

(1) if you say Obama-Biden really fast over and over it sounds strange (bama-biden-bama-biden-bama-biden); some kind of joke there but it hasn't struck me yet.

(2) this guy who has been a lifelong senator from Delaware has a stoned and flaky quality; he's a Congressional old-timer and lends an aura of "safety" to the "foreign" quality Obama has.

(3) It doesn't make me feel better about Obama's candidacy because Biden is too vacuous, too flaky and too static personally to seem to me to be convincing in the role of mentor, influence or advisor to Obama.

(4) Based on the above it seems to me that Biden is a token, a token "old expert insider white guy who doesn't hate America" pick.

I suspect Biden isn't the game changer Obama needs.

Unless there is some other game-changer or my take on the foregoing is proved wrong by Bidens performance in the next 4 weeks, Obama's campaign is going to continue to wallow in its range-bound stuckness for the rest of the election season.

Posted by: AsperGirl | August 23, 2008 7:17 AM | Report abuse

Biden is an excellent choice for vice-president.

However, that doesn't negate the fact that Obama is still on the top of the ticket. So I still can't support the Democratic ticket.

As I've stated numberous times, I'm an Independent, and research the candidates myself. Regardless of what the Obama supporters think: I'm a Republican and issuing their talking points. Nothing could be further from the truth.

Actually, Biden was right there on the top of my list with another candidate, but both dropped out of the race.

Biden is a great debater and will give Obama strength in the Foreign Relations department.

With that said, since Biden is not on top of the ticket, I'm going to have to stick with McCain.

By the way, as I said before with Obama, talk is cheap. Obama said he is for change, for not doing business as usual in Washington. So Obama picks a 36 year Washington insider.

Hillary supporters are seething that she wasn't even vetted or interviewed for consideration as VP.

Obama better watch out for those 18 million cracks, because that ceiling is going to come crashing down on him come November.

Posted by: Janet8 | August 23, 2008 7:15 AM | Report abuse

Great choice; So he criticized Obama in the debates. So did Hillary and every other dem up there...its called politics. At least Biden has more experience, and a better character than McCain. He is truly a hardworking Democrat. McCain is a lazy, lazy man, that is why his gaffe's are of importance.

Hillary has not much more than Obama, so her chances to be VP were same as many in party.

Posted by: canadagirl | August 23, 2008 7:14 AM | Report abuse

GREAT CHOICE , BIDEN . I HAVE ADMIRED HIM THROUGH OUT HIS CAREER. TALKS TOO MUCH? I'D RATHER HAVE AN INTELLIGENT BIG TALKER THAN A MENTALLY CHALLENGED ( CHECK THE WHITE HOUSE) AND A MEAN,CRABBY, OLD MAN WHO WILL SEND US DEEPER INTO WAR . IF MCCAIN BECOMES PRESIDENT WE ARE DOOMED . PRAY FOR PEACE , PLEASE EVERYONE !!

Posted by: AMY | August 23, 2008 7:13 AM | Report abuse

George Bush also chose a father figure to be his VP! - and it's obvious who's been running the country since Jan. 01.

Obama sure smacked down his base of Kossacks - again!

Posted by: Frank | August 23, 2008 7:12 AM | Report abuse

This is the best the progressives can do? Biden? He is an old party hack...

Posted by: david | August 23, 2008 7:11 AM | Report abuse

What a great choice. I am now an Obama supporter. I was checking out McCain but he seems too old and out of touch.

Posted by: Ohio Voter | August 23, 2008 7:11 AM | Report abuse

Biden is an awful pick, and I can tell you that my friends and I will not support Obl-blah-a now, no way no how. We were all HRC supporters and this idiot doesn't realize he can't win this election by HRC. The Republicans are going to use Biden's own words to make an ass of Obama and he cold have avoided all of this if he picked Hillary.

I may not vote for McCain, but i sure as hell won't vote for this moron Obama.

Posted by: Abe, FL | August 23, 2008 7:11 AM | Report abuse

Obama, the Establishment's nominee, selects VP who's been in Washington longer than Hillary.
LOL - Obamabots duped again!

Dems for McCain - NO Hussein!

Posted by: zazzle | August 23, 2008 7:09 AM | Report abuse

Is in it the same guy who once articulated that Barack is so clean and intelligent-insinuating that its rare thing for a black man? Isnt he the same guy who slandered Indians by using Seven eleven stereotyping? Sound like a racist to me.A white racist to compliment a blackone?

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2008 7:08 AM | Report abuse

Only time will tell.

And, if I remember 1992 a not so well know Clinton selected a semi-retread young guy with Washington experience, Gore.

And the opposition was an incumbent with a lot of recognition.

So, once again, time will tell.


Posted by: jatox | August 23, 2008 7:07 AM | Report abuse

Do we have NONE OF THE ABOVE to choose from? This is scary!

Posted by: elizabeth | August 23, 2008 7:03 AM | Report abuse

"Quit insulting the Europeans; they have every right to hate Bush."

Sure, they had all sold out to Saddam. The President upset that gravy train.

Posted by: Gary E. Masters | August 23, 2008 7:03 AM | Report abuse

That is really disappointing. Obama has shown me nothing. Too bad the Democrats (my party) missed a very big chance to make history. Obama has gone as far has he can. Unfortunately, I don't think he can win.

Posted by: DC-WV | August 23, 2008 7:02 AM | Report abuse

Senator Biden is intelligent, articulate and clean. What else could we ask for in a VP?

Posted by: Gary E. Masters | August 23, 2008 6:59 AM | Report abuse

Ralphinphnx wrote:

So once again the Democrats have already stolen Failure Out Of The Jaws Of Success,so what else is new? And now I will gladly go and
hold my nose and vote for John McCain for
President as this Independent Voter wants
nothing to do with sleazy slimeballs empty
suits Barack Hussein Obama and that Big
Mouth Joe Biden. Obama Blows It Again!
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So who is the candidate that is acceptable to you? We are talking about politicians no matter what party tickles your fancy! They are all empty suits getting by on a smile and a show shine.

What is it that you want????

Posted by: SteelWheel1 | August 23, 2008 6:59 AM | Report abuse

wasnt Obama about CHANGE yet he picks a Washinton insider - he's no different than all the others -now i'm sure i won't be voting for Obama

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2008 6:58 AM | Report abuse

SCRABBLE GAME

Osama bin Laden

Obama Biden

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2008 6:57 AM | Report abuse

Dwight wrote:

as obama would say it, it's time to put up or shut up...obama and biden should resign their senate seats at the convention and show America that they are confident they will win...
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Does this apply to Sen. McCain as well??

Posted by: SteelWheel1 | August 23, 2008 6:54 AM | Report abuse

So the most important thing to tell us is that his wife and daughter were killed decades ago. Next most important: a plagiarism charge. Third: His aneurysm. Fourth: His failed presidential bids. And finally some hints of the gravitas and strengths and experience he brings to the ticket. Chris, is this journalism? You've inverted the inverted pyramid. See the NYT story for how to do this fairly.

Posted by: rick | August 23, 2008 6:54 AM | Report abuse

The only good thing about Biden now is that he still has time to withdraw from the campaign so that Obama can poll for another more effective political choice for his Vice President. Biden's a clearly polled liability to the Obama campaign. He'll put the campaign on the defensive until the election day. One has to wonder which of Obama's campaign polls indicated that Biden would add to Obama's camp the independent voters sitting on the fence? OMIG! The Democrats haven't even had their Convention yet, and they're already looking down the double-barrel shotgun of the McCain Campaign, who now might just select formidable Tom Ridge, Bobby Jindal,Colin Powell or Condi Rice as VP.You can't help Obama, Joe Biden! Show some political common sense and do Obama and the Democrats a favor: Withdraw!Now!

Posted by: thedefendantX | August 23, 2008 6:54 AM | Report abuse

ObamaEdwards, take your slander somewhere else. What evidence to you have that "Biden hates women"? At least he didn't lie about an affair like your boy Edwards.

Biden is a decent choice.

Obama-Biden in '08.

Posted by: RealChoices | August 23, 2008 6:54 AM | Report abuse

Reduhblicans would have a better chance if they hadn't picked a man like McCane, who can't GD remember where he is half the time. It's '92 all over again. Vote for change or for a tired, old multi-millionaire Republican wingnut.

Posted by: Dr. Don Key | August 23, 2008 6:50 AM | Report abuse

SS said: "And on top of that did not even consider or vet Hillary who actually got the popular vote- basically dissing her and her 18 million supporters?"

Maybe you don't understand this, SS, but Vice-Presidential nominees don't select themselves. Even if Hillary wanted the job (and yesterday she implied she didn't) Obama was under no obligation to pick Hillary. Hillary is too self-serving to ever play second fiddle, picking her would have meant making her co-President, which would have been a disaster. Biden is a fine choice.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2008 6:49 AM | Report abuse

It's time to restore dignity and honor, and INTELLIGENCE to the White House. Biden is a perfect choice.

Posted by: Dr. Don Key | August 23, 2008 6:45 AM | Report abuse

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Biden voted for WAR.

Biden voted against ABORTION.

Biden is 65 years OLD.

Biden is the ultimate WASHINGTON INSIDER.


Obama hates WOMEN.

.

Posted by: ObamaEdwards | August 23, 2008 6:44 AM | Report abuse

Hooray!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Anyone but Hillary | August 23, 2008 6:43 AM | Report abuse

Joe Biden? A washington insider? What was this"change"all about?No backbone? All talk but no substance as many had expected.And on top of that did not even consider or vet Hillary who actually got the popular vote- basically dissing her and her 18 million supporters?I wouldnt have cared if HIllary wasnt picked ,IF Obama had chosen a washington outsider,fresh face but when you pick some one like Buiden,didnt even have the decency to even consider Hillary or even talk to her about VP choices?Still expect her to work hardfor you?She might but not many of her supporters i can guarantee that.Petty politics Chicago-style I guess.This thing is not gonna turn out good for the party.

Posted by: SS | August 23, 2008 6:42 AM | Report abuse

I will vote John McCain for President, Joe Biden for Vice President.

Posted by: New Democrat | August 23, 2008 6:41 AM | Report abuse

Reading the things you think are ill-advised comments from Biden's past, I can't help but wonder if you're willing to hold John McCain to the same standard. McCain doesn't even pass the test when you just look at what he's said about his wife, much less the number of voters he's called "jerks." Maybe an upside to choosing Biden is that if the McCain campaign decides to bring up the past if gives permission for the Obama campaign to bring up McCain's past, which they have largely avoided.

Posted by: lemonfair | August 23, 2008 6:41 AM | Report abuse

as obama would say it, it's time to put up or shut up...obama and biden should resign their senate seats at the convention and show America that they are confident they will win...

Posted by: Dwight | August 23, 2008 6:40 AM | Report abuse

This Democrat is delighted. Biden is a wise pick, particularly in the light of the Russians flexing their muscles in Georgia.

This shows that Obama does indeed have good judgment. He needs someone who is steeped in foreign policy, who is articulate and quick on his feet, and who can appeal to blue-collar Dems.

Biden fits the bill nicely. Well done!

Posted by: mollycoddle | August 23, 2008 6:39 AM | Report abuse

Dodd, Kennedy, Biden . . . just a bunch of good old boys looking out for each other. Caroline Kennedy must have really had a tough choice here.

Posted by: jwp | August 23, 2008 6:38 AM | Report abuse

Biden is a decent pick, he's a good Joe, but does talk too much. Will Neil Kinnock write is acceptance speech Wed. night?

Posted by: bhoomes | August 23, 2008 6:35 AM | Report abuse

Biden might make a convincing play against the "authoritative expert senior executive white man politician" territory currently occupied by McCain in this contest.

But he has some serious issues. He's got no real appeal, but a sort of wishy washy tuna melt of plagiarism and tendency to babble to the moment, and so has been a perennial presidential candidate that never makes the cut. Biden could make top senior executive material -- if he didn't have such a squishy, flaky quality.

And he undercuts a lot of things that Obama says defines the Obama movement.

Biden is a good wedge into the Jewish vote; questionable wedge into military/foreign affairs problems. Biden will be an effective wedge into these issues depending on his ability to speak to them more clearly and effectively than he seems to be able to. He needs to focus and sharpen up his presentation and lose that stoned-on-pot quality.

Posted by: AsperGirl | August 23, 2008 6:35 AM | Report abuse

OBAMA BIN BIDEN 08

This really sounds like a winning ticket - now which state were they supposed to carry?

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Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2008 6:34 AM | Report abuse

This is a problem: Biden is a bigger phony than Obama is. A real arrogant jerk. And wait till they start bringing out what he said -originally- on Iraq. Oh brother.

Posted by: muskrat | August 23, 2008 6:33 AM | Report abuse

I think it's a winning ticket. At least he didn't choose the Billarys!

Posted by: Jeff Wagner | August 23, 2008 6:33 AM | Report abuse

So you think Biden's plagiarism is a problem? McCain has just cribbed from Wikipedia. There is nothing they can go after Biden about that he can't turn around on McCain.

My first choice was Gov. Schweitzer, but this is a defensible, adult choice.

Posted by: lemonfair | August 23, 2008 6:33 AM | Report abuse

response to: (Sandy5274 | August 23, 2008 6:21 AM)

Get a life, you loser. The Grand Old Pinheads is goin' down like Larry Craig, in November. You already lost the House and Senate. The White House is next. The world will let out a collective sigh of relief when George Duhbya Bush leaves the White House. Stupid is as stupid does...and says. Lunch is served, loser.

Posted by: Dr. Don Key | August 23, 2008 6:33 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Sandy5274 | August 23, 2008 6:21 AM

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2008 6:24 AM | Report abuse

So once again Bonehead Obama Poor Judgement
peeks out at the voters,since the voters
have already said NO to Joe Biden for
President of the USA.

And,once again the numbskull dimwitted
Democrats right on schedule let empty suit
Barack Hussein Obama pick another mouthy
empty suit Joe Biden for his Vice President
and thus Elected John McCain President.

Posted by: Sandy5274 | August 23, 2008 6:21 AM | Report abuse

Outstanding choice. He creates some parity in the experience/foreign policy department. Bring on McMillions and the Repuglicans!

Posted by: Dr. Don Key | August 23, 2008 6:18 AM | Report abuse

And So We Win!

And by “We,” I mean Republicans. You Democrats are great at fumbling the ball, especially when the goal is right in front of you. Thanks, guys!!

— Jack James

Posted by: Jack James | August 23, 2008 6:13 AM | Report abuse

I am not happy with the choice, but it is what we have. I'm sure that Senator Obama has a calculated reason for his decision, and if it his past actions are an indication of his future ones, then this will play out right. It may give us the votes of many racist Democrats, the votes of the working class, and the votes of those that questioned Obama's foreign affairs experience.

If you're a true Democrat or an Independent that knows the country is in bad shape, then you can't possibly support McCain. As I said in a previous post:

"I believe that the McCain that doesn't try to impress people is a great candidate- the problem is that McCain is nothing more than a puppet of opportunity. He's just like a dog whose master makes him do 10 tricks in 10 seconds. Even worse: he's a dog that listens to 10 masters."

I supported Senator Clinton wholeheartedly, and I still believe that she was the better choice. The reason why we support a candidate is because we know he/she can best serve our Nation. Mrs. Clinton is no longer in the race, and we must now look to our next option. Like a game of poker, whenever the card you needed is out of play, then you need to find another winning hand.

OBAMA/BIDEN 2008

Posted by: EGGArgost | August 23, 2008 6:10 AM | Report abuse

Now McCain will have to pick Paris Hilton as VP since the GOP has done nothing but give her and her buds tax giveaways since 2000. An alternative choice is Osama, since Bush has done so much to increase the number of terrorists throughout the world. Finally, there is "heckuva job" Brownie, since the GOP places such a premium on incompetence.

Posted by: Nick | August 23, 2008 6:09 AM | Report abuse

Referring to the post by Iowatreasures, "I noticed a comment just now about how Obama got 200,000 people out in Berlin. What people don't realize is that the Obama/Axelrod team used concerts as a backdrop for Obama's rallies. Those screaming people were there before Obama dropped by to give a speech."

There is much more on the plate than the concert itself

http://quipster.wordpress.com/2008/08/02/free-beer-pizza-bratwurst-and-a-concert-in-germany-courtesy-of-barack-obama/


Same thing happened at the so much hyped Oregon rally where close to 75,000 people attended the rally.
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/robert-knight/2008/05/20/free-concert-popular-band-preceded-obama-s-big-rally

This article asked "How many of the people showed up to hear Obama, and how many to hear the band?"

This is not the first time the Obama cmapaign is manipulating the information, where the campaign as well the friendly media, picks information selectively and present it to the masses to shape opinions in their favor.

The big question is whether this is ethical or ethics has given away to greed.


Posted by: Shawn | August 23, 2008 6:04 AM | Report abuse

Well, I am not much of a lib, but I have always had some fondness for Biden. There are some downsides such as that plagiarism thing. Obama could have picked worse.

Posted by: Karl | August 23, 2008 6:04 AM | Report abuse

You guys really dont care that Bush created the Irak war??? It´s not important for u or what? He lied, created a war, killed thousands of americans only for oil....It´s time for change. The whole world is asking for it. You can see it or not. Noone wants McCain outside the US.

Posted by: R.Dylan | August 23, 2008 6:01 AM | Report abuse

SO WHAT if Biden previously criticized Obama's "lack of experience"? That was before his own experience was placed behind Obama.

The bottom line is: Biden's former criticisms were when he didn't think his own experience was going to influence and or guide Obama. Now that he will be able to use his experience to help and guide Obama, I doubt he's worried about Obama's inexperience when his own experience is right behind Obama.

GREAT PICK!

Posted by: John | August 23, 2008 6:01 AM | Report abuse

I think this will be a strong ticket... http://www.enewsreference.wordpress.com

Posted by: eNews Reference | August 23, 2008 5:58 AM | Report abuse

Ho! Hum! Oh well so only the dumbarse dimwit Democrats can pick an endless string
of phony empty suit out of touch with reality losers like Messiah Barack Obama
and senile motor mouth Joe Biden. So once
again the Democrats have already stolen
Failure Out Of The Jaws Of Success,so what
else is new? And now I will gladly go and
hold my nose and vote for John McCain for
President as this Independent Voter wants
nothing to do with sleazy slimeballs empty
suits Barack Hussein Obama and that Big
Mouth Joe Biden. Obama Blows It Again!

Posted by: Ralphinphnx | August 23, 2008 5:52 AM | Report abuse

It wouldn't matter if Obama picked Pee Wee Herman for the job.

Even if Mccain wins, the first thing he will do is surrender to Obama.

He's been practicing his concession speech in the bamboo cage he keeps out back (he calls it a house.)

He's out there in the cage in the hot noon sun wearing nothing but a pair of brown and yellow-stained briefs with his old-man balls hanging out.

Every once in a while when Bush is feeling down he goes over to McCain's house and sips maggots through a straw and blows them at McCain in his cage. McCain cries and asks for a hug and Bush just yells, "I own you, Charlie!"

Posted by: K Ackermann | August 23, 2008 5:52 AM | Report abuse

You people scare me. No wonder this country has lost so much respect in the rest of the world. Look at the hate spew on most of these blogs and all the crapola lies that are in them.
Joe Biden obviously has done well for his contingency because he has been a senator for eons. To say that HRC has more experience is ludicrous considering most of her 'experience' was as first lady. I think Joe Biden is an excellent choice because he balances Obama very well.
If you still insist on voting for McCain then you better not be complaining about the ecomnomy, gas prices, etc, because that it what you are voting for!

Posted by: phorse | August 23, 2008 5:45 AM | Report abuse

Of all people that Obama could have possibly picked, why did he pick the worst possible? Joe Biden is already a failed Presidential candidate. He is a serial plagiarist who cannot learn from his mistakes. He comes from a small border state. He sets up a "drug czar", and then complains the drug czar is dictatorial. He votes for the Patriot Act, and wants to disarm the citizenry. McCain must have been too low in the polls for Obama's liking. Ow!

Posted by: bong_jamesbong2001 | August 23, 2008 5:41 AM | Report abuse

GREAT CHOICE!! Joe Biden is a respected, accomplished Senator.

Posted by: bullmountaininc | August 23, 2008 5:41 AM | Report abuse

OBAMA BIN BIDEN 08

This really sounds like a winning ticket - now which state were they supposed to carry?

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Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2008 5:41 AM | Report abuse

Sen. Joe Biden suggestion that Russia launched the war against Georgia was a BLUNDER. So was his proposal that we support GEORGIA by a Billion $.

Here is Sen. Biden's record on certain issues, and some Biden statements:

ON HIS VOTING RECORD
Voting Yes and No…

In May 2003 Biden said: "There was sufficient evidence to go into Iraq." Then in 2004: "I voted to give the president the authority to use force in Iraq. I still believe my vote was just." Then in Iowa in 2007, running for President, Joe Biden said: "It was a mistake. I regret my vote."

Q: Which is the True Joe Biden that we can trust?

BIDEN ON ISRAEL
* Biden co-sponsored the Jerusalem Embassy Act which declares:
# Declares it to be U.S. policy that: Jerusalem remain an undivided city in which the rights of every ethnic religious group are protected;
# Jerusalem be recognized as the capital of the State of Israel. [Oct 13, 1995].

* I would not do anything that I did not coordinate with the Israeli government.
* The Democrats' support for Israel "comes from our gut, moves through our heart, and ends up in our head. It's almost genetic." [5 Oct 2006]

Sen. Biden acted as observer at the January 2006 Palestinian parliamentary elections, in which Hamas won. He does not recognize Hamas and said: "Israel cannot be expected to negotiate with ... Hamas."

In an exclusive to Shalom TV interview, Sen. Joseph R. Biden Jr. said: "I am a Zionist. . . You don't have to be a Jew to be a Zionist." Biden called Israel "the single greatest strength America has in the Middle East," and stressed that "without Israel, one could only imagine how many battleships and troops America would have to station in the Middle East". . . [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAZmO80dLfE]

BIDEN ON IRAQ
* "Saddam must be dislodged from his weapons or dislodged from power." Biden: "It turned out they [Iraq] didn't [have WMD], but everyone in the world thought he [Saddam] had them. " [2002, referred in Meet the Press: "Meet the Candidates" series Apr 29, 2007]

The Biden argumentation:
"I called every intelligence agency before the Foreign Relations Committee, had them all sit there at once. I pointed out to all my colleagues who came that there was vast disagreement among the intelligence community"… "And, Mr. President, if all else fails, you have authority to use force." [as above]

On the same occasion Biden defended his plan to partition Iraq. James Baker said this would trigger a "huge civil war."

* I am not prepared to say there are no circumstances under which, after a date certain, we would not have a single troop inside of Iraq. [Apr 29, 2007]

* I would make a commitment to have them all out [by 2013] if there is not a political reconciliation, because they're just fodder. [Sep 26, 2007]

BIDEN ON IRAQ vs. the NEOCONS

* I’d put a swift end to the neo-con fantasy of quickly and decisively remaking an Iraq in our image; privatizing industries and building democratic institutions were distant goals that we could not impose on this fragile country. [Jul 31, 2007]

BUT: Biden's presidential campaign Ad said: "Biden says this war must end now."

ON BOMBING SERBIA and KOSOVO
* I pressed Pres. Clinton to begin air strikes against Serb military positions in Kosovo and Belgrade. [Jul 31, 2007]

Posted by: WORLD GUARDIAN | August 23, 2008 5:40 AM | Report abuse

Per the Post's OWN analysis of Biden:

Loose Lips Sink Ships

"Over the course of his presidential bid, Biden cemented his reputation as -- how to put this nicely? -- less than disciplined on the campaign trail.


In the summer of 2006, as he was publicly mulling the race, Biden set off a controversy over comments he made about Indian Americans.

"I've had a great relationship [with Indian Americans]," Biden said. "In Delaware, the largest growth in population is Indian-Americans moving from India. You cannot go to a 7-Eleven or a Dunkin' Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent. I'm not joking."

On the day he formally announced his candidacy, a New York Observer story that quoted Biden as calling Obama "articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy" came out, and the resultant uproar effectively undercut any momentum Biden was hoping to build.


Sen. Joseph R. Biden Jr. (D-Del.), chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee, talks to Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) during the hearing. While Biden was on his best verbal behavior for much of the rest of the campaign, there is no question that his tendency to shoot from the lip worries some in Obama world. As one Democratic consultant put it: "You know there will be three days in the campaign where someone in Chicago will get a call and respond -- 'What did you say he said?.'"

For a campaign that prides itself on its message discipline, choosing Biden would be introducing a wildcard into the mix. The Obama campaign exudes quiet confidence that if they do the basic political work between now and Nov. 4 the Illinois senator will be president. Do they really want to risk it with Biden?

Plagiarizer In Chief

Way back in 1987, Biden was riding high in the presidential race -- widely regarded as a serious contenders for the Democratic party's nod.

Then Neil Kinnock happened. Biden borrowed passages of a speech given by Kinnock, a leader in Britain's Labour Party, without attribution -- a mistake that led to a detailed examination of Biden's public statements that turned up several more examples of potential plagiarism and resume inflation. The feeding frenzy eventually chased the Delaware senator from the race.

The incident has become the stuff of political lore -- type "Joe Biden and Neil Kinnock" into Google and more than 37,000 hits are returned -- even though those close to Biden insist that the actual facts surrounding the incidents are largely overblown.

Maybe. But, while any political junkie worth his (or her) name knows all about the Kinnock incident, it's a mistake to assume the average voter knows about it. In the words of one Republican strategist: "Old news inside the Beltway, new news outside."

That reality means that in every story about Biden done in the aftermath of his selection, Kinnock's name and the allegations of plagiarism would come up. It would complicate the desired flawless roll-out of the new ticket and could even raise questions about Obama's commitment to politics of change.

Posted by: spring rain | August 23, 2008 5:39 AM | Report abuse

...
We Will Destroy the Democratic Party

Posted by: Jim C. | August 23, 2008 5:23 AM
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Destroying America wasn't enough?

Look, I'm not blaming you. I know your dad worked hard for those couple of years when you were young, and who doesn't need a drink now and again?

That was pretty brave of your mom though, when she tried to get him to stop beating you to sleep with a half-empty bottle of gin. You have to admit: that punch your dad through was unbelievable. 4 feet in the air, straight up she went.

Too bad for him he cut off his arm at the saw mill, but great for your mom because now she only had to duck from the left. That was pretty smart of him to take you out of school so you be his missing arm and help him "do those things that men need to do sometimes."

You would think your sister could have helped sometimes, but her job was to moan at him behind closed doors while you mother sold potato chips on the corner. "Lay's! Get your Lay's"

That was pretty embarrassing when your dad ratted out Ted Haggart and told everyone what they had been doing?

Did you ever ride the snake with them?

Posted by: K Ackermann | August 23, 2008 5:39 AM | Report abuse

Obama's VP choice, "Sen Lloyd Bentsen".... Sorry, that was Dukakis' VP... but they look same :-)

Democrats are master of seizing defeat from the face of victory :-)

We have two career politicans without any executive experience. Americans are supposed to believe politicians can solve this country's economic problem.

Posted by: Seed of Chage | August 23, 2008 5:37 AM | Report abuse

oH HOW RICH-SOME LONELY LITTLE EUROPEAN COMES ONTO THE BOARD TO TELL THE AMERICANS HOW TO VOTE-GO AWAY, A-HOLE! YOU REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT-LOOK AT ALL THE CONSERVATIVE LEADERS ALL ACROSS EUROPE-THEY DON'T GIVE A DAMN ABOUT OBAMA-AND WHAT THE "PEOPLE" THINK IS UTTERLY IRRELEVANT-IT'S THE LEADERS THAT COUNT-NOT THE POPULAR SENTIMENT!

P.S. AND IF YOU THINK THAT PRES. BUSH IS NOT POPULAR IN EASTERN EUROPE-THEN YOU MUST BE MORE IGNORANT AND UNINFORMED THAN YOU SOUND-HE GOT HUGE CROWDS, ALL OVER EASTERN EUROPE! THEY SEE HIM AS THE PROTECTOR AGAINST THE RUSSIAN BEAR!

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2008 5:35 AM | Report abuse

Joe Biden is ideologically right but considering the practical matters, Hillary or another women may have been more appropriate to get nasty and up in John Sidney McCain the 3rd face and his fake war hero record.

Even though Biden has a clean record of no bribes etc, but he is a Washington insider and all this talk about change is going to fall flat in Obama's face.

What the democrats need is some body aggressive enough to have McCain's military and preferential treatment record all his life exposed and let the good citizens of this country know what a lair, cheat and hypocrite the SOB really is.

Binden would have been a much better choice as Secretary of State.

Posted by: winemaster2 | August 23, 2008 5:34 AM | Report abuse

Children, children! Such anger! Please. It's not the end of the world. I'm sure McSame will offer you one of his many houses after you get kicked out of the White House.

Posted by: woody | August 23, 2008 5:32 AM | Report abuse

The 'fix' for the failing economy should have been Hillary Clinton, but the corrupt DNC and their dirty little Dumbo screwed that up.

Dumbo dissed Clinton's GREATEST ECONOMIC EXPANSION IN HISTORY. So, I guess we'll be seeing some Carter economics.

You can forget about Peace and Prosperity.

Posted by: Dave S. | August 23, 2008 5:30 AM | Report abuse

Obama certainly could have done much worse than choose Biden. But having two Senators on the ticket --- any ticket --- signals a sea change in America's political outlook. Our nation has only three times chosen a president who was an incumbent member of Contress, and twelve times has chosen an incumbent governor. That seems to have indicated that the public's preference has been for a government in which states have equal status with the national government. In 2008, both major candidates, and now one running mate, have had all their experience in the national legislature; this seems to suggest an end to a federal government and complete dominance by a homogenized national government in which states are subservient to Washington. If that is our political future, ore Constitution is obsolete and should be replaced.

Posted by: dmh8620 | August 23, 2008 5:29 AM | Report abuse

LET ME REPEAT MYSELF, IN CASE DYLAN DIDN'T SEE MY POST:


oH HOW RICH-SOME LONELY LITTLE EUROPEAN COMES ONTO THE BOARD TO TELL THE AMERICANS HOW TO VOTE-GO AWAY, A-HOLE! YOU REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT-LOOK AT ALL THE CONSERVATIVE LEADERS ALL ACROSS EUROPE-THEY DON'T GIVE A DAMN ABOUT OBAMA-AND WHAT THE "PEOPLE" THINK IS UTTERLY IRRELEVANT-IT'S THE LEADERS THAT COUNT-NOT THE POPULAR SENTIMENT!

P.S. AND IF YOU THINK THAT PRES. BUSH IS NOT POPULAR IN EASTERN EUROPE-THEN YOU MUST BE MORE IGNORANT AND UNINFORMED THAN YOU SOUND-HE GOT HUGE CROWDS, ALL OVER EASTERN EUROPE! THEY SEE HIM AS THE PROTECTOR AGAINST THE RUSSIAN BEAR!

Posted by: SPRING RAIN | August 23, 2008 5:28 AM | Report abuse

Joe Biden?

He can't keep his mouth shut. Sometimes he talks before thinking. He is not always a systematic thinker. He loves to hear himself talk. He can get carried away with his enthusiasms. He is a lawyer, but some of his colleagues think, frankly, that he isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer.

There have been some matters of academic ethics and plagiarism. In 1987, his first presidential campaign exploded overnight after he was found to have lifted portions of a speech from a British politician.

Posted by: alance | August 23, 2008 5:27 AM | Report abuse

Children, children! Such anger! Please. It's not the end of the world. I'm sure McSame will offer you one of his many houses after you get kicked out of the White House.

Posted by: woody | August 23, 2008 5:27 AM | Report abuse

SPRING RAIN - Shout in my face once again and you will wish your mother believed in abortion.

Quit insulting the Europeans; they have every right to hate Bush.

The only country in the entire world with a favorable view of Bush was Georgia. There is some kind of a clue for you there.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2008 5:25 AM | Report abuse

CHANGE = OBAMA THUGS and HAIR PLUGS


OBAMA BIN BIDEN O8


We Will Destroy the Democratic Party

Posted by: Jim C. | August 23, 2008 5:23 AM | Report abuse

This Is One Independent Voter That Says,
"Yuck To Bonehead Barack Hussein Obama's
Idiotic Ridiculous Vice Presidential Pick,
that long winded big mouth arrogant know it
all phony fellow empty suit with hair plugs
Joe Biden. What A Loser Joe Biden is,and
again Empty Suit Bonehead Barack Hussein
Obama Blew It! Hillary Clinton should fight
Barack Hussein Obama for the Democratic
Presidential Nomination on the Floor in
Denver or Run As A Independent Voter!
Nope No Joe Biden Amd NO Barack Obama for
this Fully Independent White Female Voter,
and yes I can hold my nose and vote for
a Republican John McCain. Hey McCain how
about naming Hillary Clinton as your Veep.
since Hillary is sure available. NOBAMA!
NO BIDEN! NO DAMN DEMOCRATS IN 2008!

Posted by: Claudine 1000 | August 23, 2008 5:23 AM | Report abuse

oH HOW RICH-SOME LONELY LITTLE EUROPEAN COMES ONTO THE BOARD TO TELL THE AMERICANS HOW TO VOTE-GO AWAY, A-HOLE! YOU REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT-LOOK AT ALL THE CONSERVATIVE LEADERS ALL ACROSS EUROPE-THEY DON'T GIVE A DAMN ABOUT OBAMA-AND WHAT THE "PEOPLE" THINK IS UTTERLY IRRELEVANT-IT'S THE LEADERS THAT COUNT-NOT THE POPULAR SENTIMENT!

P.S. AND IF YOU THINK THAT PRES. BUSH IS NOT POPULAR IN EASTERN EUROPE-THEN YOU MUST BE MORE IGNORANT AND UNINFORMED THAN YOU SOUND-HE GOT HUGE CROWDS, ALL OVER EASTERN EUROPE! THEY SEE HIM AS THE PROTECTOR AGAINST THE RUSSIAN BEAR!

Posted by: SPRING RAIN | August 23, 2008 5:20 AM | Report abuse

That Guy - I know what you mean about being drawn in to the comments.

I do some serious blogging too, but I find myself coming here sometimes and end up doing drive-by insults because because the pickings for "morons" is so rich.

The focused blogs cull those with different (wrong ;-)) opinions.

Posted by: K Ackermann | August 23, 2008 5:20 AM | Report abuse

"McCain is the one that is clueless on national security.

He's been a champion of the Iraq war. He said pulling out of Iraq was surrender. Guess what? Now we have a time table for pull out."

Posted by: edzo | August 23, 2008 5:10 AM

Hello!!!! There is much talk about pulling out because of the significant progress brought about by the surge that Obama opposed.

McCain championed the support for the surge while Obama was busy reading polls on showing how unpopular the Iraq War was.

Obama's solution was RETREAT-IN-DEFEAT!!! Obama opposed the troop surge and he wanted a RETREAT-IN-DEFEAT policy when things weren't going well in Iraq. It would have been a military and diplomatic failure. No country would trust the US in a military partnership if Obama retreated in defeat.

THANK GOD WE DID NOT FOLLOW OBAMA IN THAT SIGNIFICANT TIME OF DECISION-MAKING.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2008 5:20 AM | Report abuse

In Europe, we have no doubt: Obama is the only hope. McCain is enduring the same Bush concept....is sad to see what the US had become to the rest of the world. Now you have the chance to change that.

Posted by: R. Dylan | August 23, 2008 5:17 AM | Report abuse

hillary and mccain aren't even close in political views....other than pro Israeli...don't mix them up...it would take more than your explanation of what leaning to the left or center means...in fact hillary and obama vote over 90% the same...the press couldn’t even differentiate between them during the primary...oh and now she has come out to back and support him....please stop...either vote for mccain or back the democrat..play fare and stick the the current issues...for example who's makes desiscions to fix are failing economy....duh..

Posted by: paddy | August 23, 2008 5:15 AM | Report abuse

you realize that most of these posts are republican hacks trying to rankle dems, right?

for all the "experience" that bush had, and for his bull about a "CEO" government, his 8 years have been a disaster in every conceivable way, except for making a bunch of republicans extremely wealthy at taxpayers expense. biggest government ever, worst foreign policy, 9/11, katrina, abramoff, a house of cards economy...

get real, people. picking biden was the smartest thing obama ever did, next to NOT picking clinton (love her, but the republicans would've had a field day).

read through the blogs, all these right=wingers posing as frustrated dems.

they're shaking in the shoes.

obama/biden: get used to saying it. they're gonna be here for the next 8 years.

Posted by: chuck in cmh | August 23, 2008 5:14 AM | Report abuse

George Bush will go down in history as one of the greatest President's in history.

I could care less what the polls say. Polls run by a bunch of Libs, regurgitated by the far left media.

Bringing democracy to a country to the middles east will bring about change that has not occured over two thousnad years of killing.

Bush could care less what the polls say about his approval ratings are. I know it just kills you Libs because that's all his predecessor cared about.

Posted by: dano | August 23, 2008 5:13 AM | Report abuse

Thursday, August 21, 2008

Obama Sued in Philadelphia Federal Court on Grounds he is Constitutionally Ineligible for the Presidency

by Jeff Schreiber
America's Right.com

A prominent Philadelphia attorney and Hillary Clinton supporter filed suit this afternoon in the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania against Illinois Sen. Barack Obama, the Democratic National Committee and the Federal Election Commission. The action seeks an injunction preventing the senator from continuing his candidacy and a court order enjoining the DNC from nominating him next week, all on grounds that Sen. Obama is constitutionally ineligible to run for and hold the office of President of the United States.

Philip Berg, the filing attorney, is a former gubernatorial and senatorial candidate, former chair of the Democratic Party in Montgomery (PA) County, former member of the Democratic State Committee, and former Deputy Attorney General of Pennsylvania. According to Berg, he filed the suit--just days before the DNC is to hold its nominating convention in Denver--for the health of the Democratic Party.

"I filed this action at this time," Berg stated, "to avoid the obvious problems that will occur when the Republican Party raises these issues after Obama is nominated.".

Berg cited a number of unanswered questions regarding the Illinois senator's background, and in today's lawsuit maintained that Sen. Obama is not a natural born U.S. citizen or that, if he ever was, he lost his citizenship when he was adopted in Indonesia. Berg also cites what he calls "dual loyalties" due to his citizenship and ties with Kenya and Indonesia.

Even if Sen. Obama can prove his U.S. citizenship, Berg stated, citing the senator's use of a birth certificate from the state of Hawaii verified as a forgery by three independent document forensic experts, the issue of "multi-citizenship with responsibilities owed to and allegiance to other countries" remains on the table.

In the lawsuit, Berg states that Sen. Obama was born in Kenya, and not in Hawaii as the senator maintains. Before giving birth, according to the lawsuit, Obama's mother traveled to Kenya with his father but was prevented from flying back to Hawaii because of the late stage of her pregnancy, "apparently a normal restriction to avoid births during a flight." As Sen. Obama's own paternal grandmother, half-brother and half-sister have also claimed, Berg maintains that Stanley Ann Dunham--Obama's mother--gave birth to little Barack in Kenya and subsequently flew to Hawaii to register the birth.

Berg cites inconsistent accounts of Sen. Obama's birth, including reports that he was born at two separate hospitals--Kapiolani Hospital and Queens Hospital--in Honolulu, as well a profound lack of birthing records for Stanley Ann Dunham, though simple "registry of birth" records for Barack Obama are available in a Hawaiian public records office.

Should Sen. Obama truly have been born in Kenya, Berg writes, the laws on the books at the time of his birth hold that U.S. citizenship may only pass to a child born overseas to a U.S. citizen parent and non-citizen parent if the former was at least 19 years of age. Sen. Obama's mother was only 18 at the time. Therefore, because U.S. citizenship could not legally be passed on to him, Obama could not be registered as a "natural born" citizen and would therefore be ineligible to seek the presidency pursuant to Article II, Section 1 of the United States Constitution.

Moreover, even if Sen. Obama could have somehow been deemed "natural born," that citizenship was lost in or around 1967 when he and his mother took up residency in Indonesia, where Stanley Ann Dunham married Lolo Soetoro, an Indonesian citizen. Berg also states that he possesses copies of Sen. Obama's registration to Fransiskus Assisi School In Jakarta, Indonesia which clearly show that he was registered under the name "Barry Soetoro" and his citizenship listed as Indonesian.

The Hawaiian birth certificate, Berg says, is a forgery. In the suit, the attorney states that the birth certificate on record is a forgery, has been identified as such by three independent document forensic experts, and actually belonged to Maya Kasandra Soetoro, Sen. Obama's half-sister.

"Voters donated money, goods and services to elect a nominee and were defrauded by Sen. Obama's lies and obfuscations," Berg stated. "If the DNC officers ... had performed one ounce of due diligence we would not find ourselves in this emergency predicament, one week away from making a person the nominee who has lost their citizenship as a child and failed to even perform the basic steps of regaining citizenship as prescribed by constitutional laws."

"It is unfair to the country," he continued, "for candidates of either party to become the nominee when there is any question of the ability to serve if elected."


Posted by: He's Ineligible | August 23, 2008 5:12 AM | Report abuse

I love the Fix, but this comment section tends to make me lose faith in the human race. I'd rather read the flame wars of fanboys debating the merits of Star Wars trilogies... And yet I'm always drawn in. It's like watching a train wreck.

Oh, and Biden seems like a pretty swell choice. Armors up Obama against inexperience attacks. In some ways I would have liked to see Hillary, but it was too late for that. Bad blood and Bill killed the chances. Oh well...

Posted by: That Guy | August 23, 2008 5:11 AM | Report abuse

Instead of debate and deliberation at the convention of what used to be the party of the people, they have one copycat chosing another. Mr. Obama was caught plagiarizing during "speechmaking" in the primaries, just as Mr. Biden had been caught by the Dukakis campaign for presenting an entire speach as his own, when he had copied the whole thing from a speech by British member of parliament Neal Kinnock.

Mr. Biden had also been caught illegally copying when he was in law school.

Well, it was rumored that Mr. Putin's doctoral thesis in international law had been ghost written. So, copycats arise! Original thinking is such a waste of time, and so stressful to the brain, especially for a "Democrat" Party nominee. If these guys get in, America will be in store for another four years of "the big fix".

Posted by: reformthesystem | August 23, 2008 5:11 AM | Report abuse

McCain is the one that is clueless on national security.

He's been a champion of the Iraq war. He said pulling out of Iraq was surrender. Guess what? Now we have a time table for pull out.

He doesn't know, or at least continually confuses the difference between Sunni and Shia.

He doesn't even know the borders in the Middle East or Central Asia.

He is a deer in headlights when he's put on the spot, and not told what to say.

Yet, all we get are media hacks writing about whether Obama is too elitist, or if he is arrogant because 200,000 people went to one of his speeches. The media constantly questions Obama's experience, but it is McCain who keeps making mistakes.

Why is there no article showing that McCain was wrong about the pullout in Iraq and Obama was correct?

Because that would get in the way of the press narrative that McCain is some type of foreign policy guru and a maverick.

Posted by: edzo | August 23, 2008 5:10 AM | Report abuse

Any Pro-Choice selection, other than a Catholic, would have kept the abortion issue a lower priority for voters in this election.

It's now time to debate whether a Pro-Choice lawmaker should be excommunicated from the Catholic Church, as well as discussing the abortion issue itself. Didn't Saddleback teach us anything? Our new priorities...:

1. Abortion and infantacide will dominate social issue discussions
2. Iraq, Iran, Afganistan, and Russia will dominate foreign policy
3. Gas prices, energy independence, spending, and lower taxes will dominate the economic discussions.
4. Environment, climate change, health issurance, social security, immigration, population increases, etc, etc, will now be "other" and will not carry as much weight as the first three when Americans vote in November.

Posted by: Mark Clarke | August 23, 2008 5:08 AM | Report abuse

The "Perfect choice".

Posted by: James | August 23, 2008 5:06 AM | Report abuse

I noticed a comment just now about how Obama got 200,000 people out in Berlin. What people don't realize is that the Obama/Axelrod team used concerts as a backdrop for Obama's rallies. Those screaming people were there before Obama dropped by to give a speech.

The whole Nightmare that is Obama is all smoke and mirrors - an election bought and paid for - with the Chicago Way and Rezko/Auchi monies helping with the "Pay as you Play" campaign.

College kids got concert tickets. Caucus goers got bingo. Super delegates got hundreds of thousands of dollars donated to their campaign coffers.

Who will stop Obama's radicalism if he gets into the White House? No one. gw.

Posted by: Iowatreasures | August 23, 2008 5:04 AM | Report abuse

"Yeah, this guy thinks he's another Harry Truman - to be appreciated in later years. The guy had to have been a drunk to be so delusional. He took this country to war over Weapons of Mass Destruction, and there were none. Great. Yeah, a real great President."

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2008 4:42 AM

You could stand to get rid of your Bush-hating prejudice and look at the facts:

The world's intelligence reports were claiming that Hussein had stockpiles of WMD which, by the way, he had ample opportunity to ship out of the country before the invasion. The decision to go to war, as we know today, was well justified.

While we didn't find the WMD stockpiles, it is well-documented that Saddam had the capability to start production of WMDs within a few weeks time and he had the intentions to maintain that readiness. Saddam Hussein was a murderous dictator responsible for torturing and killing hundreds of thousands, had well-documented ties and sponsorship to terrorism, violated 17 UN Resolutions in addition to the UN Oil-for-Food scandal where he stole billions of dollars (to be used in food and medicine) from his own people, he attacked neighboring countries including Kuwait and Israel, plotted the assassination of a US President, and, his successors, his sons Uday and Qusay, had shown themselves to be no better. There was also good probability that the radical Shiite clerics, with support from Iran, would have made a power play without a sovereign Iraqi government and capable military force in place, after Hussein’s eventual death, making the whole region unstable. History will be favorable to Bush even though the liberals hate him like they hated Reagan.

These are the facts as we know it today. I know it's hard to clear your head of your Bush-hating prejudice to consider facts. There is so much hate-filled emotion involved.

Posted by: JImMF | August 23, 2008 5:04 AM | Report abuse

It's funny hearing all these Repubs pretending to be indignant Hillary supporters to stir up infighting amongst Dems. Nice try guys but you better start packing your bags because you won't be in the White House for long - that's right, you'll be out on the street where you belong. But don't worry - sure McSame will offer you one of his houses!

Posted by: Woody | August 23, 2008 5:03 AM | Report abuse

Anonymous--yes bush the worst in history...and anyone claiming to switch to republican is full of hate or ignorance...no way could a person not see what war mongers and elitists the current bush administration and a possible future mccain administration would be...with mccain we will continue to head down a path of ruin...anti-choice supreme court, preemptive wars, rich/corporate support, sabotaged social programs, under-funded education, no health care, and the list can go on and on....

Posted by: paddy | August 23, 2008 5:02 AM | Report abuse

Oh God how funny! So the wonderful Mr Change You Can Believe In,the Great Democrat Messiah Barack Hussein Obama picks
an old line phony motor mouth Joe Biden,who
doesn't know when to shut up,for his Vice
President,and Obama and your Obamabots call
that "Change You Can Count On?"

I'm sure Sen John McCain is grateful that
the Obama and Biden Democrat Losers Ticket
Just Elected John McCain President as well.

Independents Against Obama/Biden 2008!
NOBAMA! NOBIDEN!

Posted by: Sherry Kay 2004 | August 23, 2008 5:02 AM | Report abuse

A read a blog this morning that said that Obama purchased property in Kenya where Rezko and Auchi money was involved. Obama does have dual citizenship in Kenya, and is registered there as 47.5% Arab - not African American.

The truth is out there to discover - the media just isn't telling much of it. Right now, Phil Berg, I believe in Pennsylvania has filed an injunction against Obama being the nominee - it is a major lawsuit, but the media is ignoring that legal filing.

Phil Berg is alleging that Obama is not legally able to run for president - because he is not an American citizen - he has citizenship in Kenya.

Who knows? But why are we gambling on an unknown quantity (Obama) after 8 years of another unknown quantity (Bush)? Doesn't make sense to me. gw.

Posted by: Iowatreasures | August 23, 2008 4:59 AM | Report abuse

"NOPE. NOT TRUE. MOST OF OUR EUROPEAN ALLIES ARE CONSERVATIVES WHO ACTUALLY ADORE PRES. BUSH, LIKE SARKOZY, ANGELA MERKEL, BERLUSCONI OF ITALY-ALL OF THEM GOOD FRIENDS OF BUSH, NOT TO MENTION HOW HE HAS REVERED IN EASTERN EUROPE!"


Right.

That's why Obama got over 200,000 people to come out in Germany, and he isn't even President. Think Bush could pull 200,000? Bush and McCain combined? 20,000 if Karl Rowe passed out money to attend?

Sure they like Bush. The USD is so low they're buying mansions in Florida for the price of a standard house in their country.

Why do you have to type in caps? Is it because you're right and the world is wrong, and you just have to show them?

You're wrong about my age, my experience and my background. Everything you shout in caps is BS.

Right - George W. Bush is admired world wide.

Sorry, I have to go back to planet earth.

Posted by: RepublicanDirtyTricksCampaign | August 23, 2008 4:59 AM | Report abuse

Of course Hillary supporters should back John McCain. Here are some reasons why.

1) John McCain is Republican in name only. His voting record is closer to a middle of the road Democrat (such as Hillary), as opposed to Obama, who is a far-left leaning, liberal Democrat.

1Hillary's political philosophy is closer to John McCain's than it is to Barack Obama's. Remember all the Democratic bills that had McCain on as a co-sponsor? Kennedy-McCain bill comes to mind. McCain-Feingold is another.

2) Any votes that Hillary supporters give to Obama in 2008 will be counter-productive to Hillary's chances of becoming president in 2012. History says that if Obama were to win the White House in 2008, he WILL be the Democratic presidential candidate in 2012, and Hillary certainly won't be running as a Republican. Hillary supporters will have to wait until at least 2016 for her to have another legitimate chance.

In other words, a McCain victory in 2008 gives Hillary the best chance to win in 2012. .

Posted by: Vince | August 23, 2008 4:59 AM | Report abuse

I am a Democrat but feel Obama failed to unite the other half of the Democratic party as well as females. It was Obama's decision to not unite the Hillary voters by not even vetting her. Biden is not a bad choice, but 18 million people did not vote for him - he dropped out early.

Posted by: edabel | August 23, 2008 4:55 AM | Report abuse

While Biden was running for President, I think he got something like one or 3% of the vote.

How is this going to help Obama. People didn't vote for Biden before, he was rejected as a candidate, so what will this do to help Obama? Nothing. Nothing has helped Biden so far - now rejecting Hillary as the V.P. candidate, the 27% who were undecided will surely break for McCain.

Obama is footnote history material. gw.

Posted by: Iowatreasures | August 23, 2008 4:54 AM | Report abuse

Very Interesting!!

Obama ryhmes with Osama

Biden ryhmes with Bin Laden

what a coincidence!

Posted by: Sameer Kumar | August 23, 2008 4:54 AM | Report abuse

i don't care about who will stand at the end of this selection ,what interests me is that if he can do something to improve the economics of the world ,can he ensure that the us dollar won't go down? i am a chinese university student .and i love america as much as my homeland china.in fact ,we chinese students don't hate america at all.we just want to study in merica and chanel what we learn there into construcing my homeland.we want to make friends with american people.and i think most american are friendly and like peace.we hope america can do more to keep the peace of the world using the proper method except the war.because nobody want to die in a war.we have survive in many wars.and we hope the sino-us relationship can be better and better .because we two countries can't live with eachother .we have many mutual interests.now the sino-us relation is much better than before .And Mr Bush is very very popular with the chinese. i don't know whether you know .i hope all of you can pay a visit here.we welcome you here.we hope obama makes a suucessful president because from his words,we see that he is very pragmatic.ok,now i have to stop my writing ,here is my e-mail,leslie880524@126.com ,all of you can send me a mail .thank you!

Posted by: leslie from china | August 23, 2008 4:53 AM | Report abuse

Anonymous-WRONG AGAIN-IF FLORIDA'S VOTES HAD BEEN COUNTED THAT A-HOLE OBAMA WOULDN'T BE IN THE MIX-WE WOULD HAVE HAD HILLARY AND BILL BACK-AND THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN A FORMIDABLE DUO!

BUT THE DEM. PARTY HAS GONE WAY OFF THE TRACKS WITH DICTATORETTE PELOSI AND SCREAMING DO NOTHING DEAN-THE WORST! THE DEM. PARTY IS A TOTAL COMPLETE MESS THESE DAYS-VERY VERY DEAD!

Posted by: SPRING RAIN | August 23, 2008 4:53 AM | Report abuse

Anonymous:

From johnmccain.com:

"John McCain believes Roe v. Wade is a flawed decision that must be overturned, and as president he will nominate judges who understand that courts should not be in the business of legislating from the bench."

"As president, John McCain would nominate judges who understand that the role of the Court is not to subvert the rights of the people by legislating from the bench. Critical to Constitutional balance is ensuring that, where state and local governments do act to preserve the traditional family, the Courts must not overstep their authority and thwart the Constitutional right of the people to decide this question."

"This is not a new position for John McCain. He has long held it. It is reflected in his consistent opposition to the agenda of liberal judicial activists who have usurped the role of state legislatures in such matters as dealing with abortion and the definition of marriage. It is reflected in his longstanding opposition to liberal opinions that have adopted a stance of active hostility toward religion, rather than neutrality. It is reflected in his firm support for the personal rights secured in the Second Amendment."

"John McCain's judicial appointees will understand that the Federal government was intended to have limited scope, and that federal courts must respect the proper role of local and state governments. The second principle is Separation of Powers. His judicial appointees will understand that it is not their role to usurp the rightful functions and powers of the co-equal political branches. He will look for candidates who respect the lawmaking powers of Congress, and the powers of the President."

"John McCain believes that shaping the judiciary through the appointment power is one of the most important and solemn responsibilities a President has, and certainly one that has a profound and lasting impact. When he was running for President in 1999, he promised that, in appointing judges, he would not only insist on persons who were faithful to the Constitution, but persons who had a record that demonstrated that fidelity. A President should have confidence in the judicial philosophy of those he is appointing to the bench. That is why he strongly supported John Roberts and Samuel Alito for the Supreme Court and that is why he would seek men and women like them as his judicial appointees."

I guess he needs to satisfy his base base to win the election...or perhaps, less cynically, his views have actually changed. I wouldn't count on any more Ginsbergs under a McCain regime.

Posted by: Michelle | August 23, 2008 4:53 AM | Report abuse

"I might add, Obama's MANSION WITH FOUR FIREPLACES AND A MUSIC ROOM, THAT HE GOT ON VERY FAVORABLE FINANCIAL TERMS BY HIS FRIEND, THE CONVICTED FELON REZKO-WE STILL DON'T KNOW THE WHOLE STORY ON THE FELON AND OBAMA'S RELATIONSHIP, JUST LIKE WITH HIS FRIEND THE TERRORIST AYERS!"


I used to feel that way, but your Dad got me comfortable with Richard Nixon's relationship with Bebe Rebozo, so now I just accept it.

Why are you so upset at Obama's house? I though all you free market capitalists liked to see the minorities pull themselves up by their bootstraps.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2008 4:50 AM | Report abuse

It's funny hearing all these Repubs pretending to be indignant Hillary supporters to stir up infighting amongst Dems. Nice try guys but you better start packing your bags because you won't be in the White House for long - that's right, you'll be out on the street where you belong. But don't worry - sure McSame will offer you one of his houses!

Posted by: woody | August 23, 2008 4:50 AM | Report abuse

So, the Civil Warriors within the Democratic Party have really crossed the Rubinocons :

The Clintons and the New York Jews are being kicked to the curb in favor of Catholics / Latinos / and Workin Joes. Long overdue, this moderate Republican thinks...

Make no mistake about it, the Clintons:

1.) reserved the right to a Credentials Committe challenge, have not rescinded it "as far as I know"
despite Hillary's hardly-faking-it pose as Obama booster.

2.) Bill Clinton refused to say explicitly whether Obama was "qualified" to be President. The congenital liar / perjurer/ disbarred lawyer / pointed out ( correctly by chance) that only the Constitution sets forth the quakifications from which voters can decide.

3.) And now, alas, Bill and Hillary Clinton's Jewish patrons in Pennsylvania just filed a nuisance suit Late Friday afternoon in Federal Court against the Democratic National Committee and Obama alleging Obama is not legally a U.S. citizen, not qualified Constitutionally, as Bill Clinton set it up just weeks ago. It's garbage of course, but mark my words--- these people will not relinqish what they view is their own personal privilege: control of the country, the fate of citizens here and elswhere around the globe subordinated to their greed.

McCain has little to worry about now- The white collar criminals behind the Clintons are going to destroy Obama's Convention and Campaign...from within.

Posted by: Realist | August 23, 2008 4:49 AM | Report abuse

THIS IS A WINNING TICKET!!!!

OBAMA\BIDEN '08

Posted by: Melissa | August 23, 2008 4:49 AM | Report abuse

Take your Republican BS and tell it to your juvenile friends. This delusional moron that has 90% of out former allies fed up with us actually thinks he's a Truman that will be appreciated in history.

NOPE. NOT TRUE. MOST OF OUR EUROPEAN ALLIES ARE CONSERVATIVES WHO ACTUALLY ADORE PRES. BUSH, LIKE SARKOZY, ANGELA MERKEL, BERLUSCONI OF ITALY-ALL OF THEM GOOD FRIENDS OF BUSH, NOT TO MENTION HOW HE HAS REVERED IN EASTERN EUROPE! IF HE WAS NOT RESPECTED, HOW DID PRES. BUSH MANAGE TO GET NATO TO APPROVE UNANIMOUSLY TO PUT IN A MISSILE SHIELD IN THE CZECH REPUBLIC, HUH?

BEFORE YOU SHOW YOUR IGNORANCE-TRY SPENDING A LITTLE TIME OUTSIDE THE COUNTRY-THEN YOU MIGHT GET A CLUE AS TO EXACTLY HOW CLUELESS YOU ARE ABOUT THE WORLD!

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2008 4:49 AM | Report abuse

www.dems4mccain.org

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2008 4:49 AM | Report abuse

"Hillary Clinton has the experience, knowledge, intelligence, good judgement, record of accomplishments, winner of the People's Vote, ready on day one, doesn't need a crutch for a VP, everything.

But, they allowed this zero to come along and send his thugs into the caucuses to steal delegates using theft, threats, force, and every kind of fraud imaginable."


That "zero" can run rings around Hillary Clinton, and don't think she doesn't know it.

So I guess Obama loses the 'man hater' vote.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2008 4:45 AM | Report abuse

Suppose for a moment the GOP forgets Biden’s embarassing plagiarism.
Suppose for a moment Biden won’t continue to orate/pontificate/bloviate ad nausium.
Suppose for a moment Biden isn’t a Washington insider with seriously over-bleached teeth.
Then Yahoo, we've got Delaware’s 3 electoral votes in the bag!!!
After a couple weeks of yawn-inducing political campaigning, cow-towing to Evangelicals and his Bush-like vacation (gotta recharge with the family during an international crisis and be too busy to respond)...we have the least inspiring, most predictable, least courageous choice for VP since Joe Lieberman (it even hurts to type his name).
Thought this one was gonna be different.
Fooled again.
Who's running this show???...(I see the steady hand of Donna Brazille on the tiller...has she ever won an election???...besides Gore 2000?). Do they think white men with beer bellies cotton to Joe Biden??? We could even lose Toby Keith over this one.
Why not go after a real constituency??? Hello...women???
And the gold medal for election throwing goes to…
Barak Obama...the “different” politician.

Posted by: Wayno | August 23, 2008 4:45 AM | Report abuse

"Anonymous-unfortunately, you're too young to really know what you're talking about. Whatever else you may think of Pres. Bush, the man had loads of experience for the job as President-he had been the Governor for several years of a huge state, which has a bigger domestic output than several medium sized European countries."

Yeah!

Look kid, I'm 59 years old which is about George Bush's age. I know a legal draft dodger that used Dad's connections to fly planes stateside when he wasn't drunk while I was in Vietnam being shot at.

His business experience? Oh, yeah - I know about that all right. He sold his shares for a profit in the company Dad got him to run just before the bad news got out and the investors lost their rear ends. Other then get elected, what exactly did he do for Texas that wasn't done already?

Take your Republican BS and tell it to your juvenile friends. This delusional moron that has 90% of out former allies fed up with us actually thinks he's a Truman that will be appreciated in history. This idiot that sent back the Social Security surplus to try to spur the economy so that now the system is insolvent again. This "businessman" that had to sign the Freddie/Fannie bill a few weeks ago because Paulson had to sit down with him and tell him that they were on the verge of collapse - primarily due to his administration making sure regulators didn't regulate - and since 1 in 4 mortgages are underwritten by them it would assure a real estate and economic collapse reminiscent of the Stock Market Crash in 1929.

I could go on and on kid. Take your political rhetoric, print it out and wipe your backside with it. History will show this moron to be the overwhelmingly worst President in American History.

Yeah, this guy thinks he's another Harry Truman - to be appreciated in later years. The guy had to have been a drunk to be so delusional. He took this country to war over Weapons of Mass Destruction, and there were none. Great. Yeah, a real great President.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2008 4:42 AM | Report abuse

It's WWW.DEMS4MCCAIN.COM or DEMS4MCCAIN.ORG.

Boy, I'll bet they'll be busy now.

Posted by: Ted | August 23, 2008 4:42 AM | Report abuse

Biden is a decoy, the VP is Wesley Clark!

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/258932

Posted by: Hargrove | August 23, 2008 4:41 AM | Report abuse

Time for the Dems to do a little painful reflection: Had the State Dem parties in Michigan and Florida acted responsibly and held their primaries as originally scheduled and sanctioned by the National Party, the ticket would be Clinton-Obama.

Nope, they wanted to be relevant, they wanted to control who the Dem nominee would be. Well they sure did, didn't they? (All of those delegates would have gone to Hillary.) But the law of unintended consequences kicked in, big time.

If McCain wins this election, the suicide watch is not going to be pretty.

Posted by: Jake | August 23, 2008 4:40 AM | Report abuse

Uh, Michelle, you DO know, don't you? That McCain voted in favor of both Ruth Ginsburg AND the very liberal Stephen Breyer for the Supreme Court don't you? He's not quite the ideologue that you are making him out to be!

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2008 4:40 AM | Report abuse

I don't understand how so many die-hard Clinton supporters feel that they are doing women's rights any good by voting for McCain. To prove a point, they are willing to risk an ultra-conservative Supreme Court that will surely seek to put an end to abortion rights. To say in essence, "That will get them," they are willing to elect a chief executive who will work to encourage legislation against issues that are crucial to women's well-being. Do they really think Clinton herself would encourage such women-defeating actions? Do they feel that their "Clinton-or-a-Republican" approach is something that she would want? If so, they are suggesting that their candidate is cynical and self-serving, and more interested in herself in power than the actual issues. Personally, I think Clinton would have made an excellent president, and this would be the LAST THING she would want.

And by the way, have the Republicans even ever had a woman seriously considered for high office?

Use your heads, people. Politics are manipulative and calculating. Obama is the nominee for President. And in his choice of Biden for the VP slot, he is doing what his campaign team believes will give him - and Democrats - the most optimal chances of winning this November. Remember the differences between what Democrats and Republicans believe in socially,internationally, and economically. Could you live with the fact that your revenge vote eliminated Roe V. Wade, extended the war in Iraq (and maybe started a few in new places), and continued to devastate the economy? If so, what kind of feminist are you?

Posted by: Michelle | August 23, 2008 4:38 AM | Report abuse

If it's a sin to own real estate maybe we should elect Obama's brother. He lives in a grass hut.

Posted by: Dave S. | August 23, 2008 4:38 AM | Report abuse

you're all idiots. either you vote for and stand for a candidate you support or you shut up. you don't trash the other person. nuts. i'm voting for a democrat. it could have been any democrat.

Posted by: isaac | August 23, 2008 4:38 AM | Report abuse

I an trying to find the web site of Hillary supporters for McCain anyone know it

Posted by: Diane | August 23, 2008 4:38 AM | Report abuse

I could care less whether the McCains have 20 homes so what? They were bought honestly with Cindy's beer money-unlike, I might add, Obama's MANSION WITH FOUR FIREPLACES AND A MUSIC ROOM, THAT HE GOT ON VERY FAVORABLE FINANCIAL TERMS BY HIS FRIEND, THE CONVICTED FELON REZKO-WE STILL DON'T KNOW THE WHOLE STORY ON THE FELON AND OBAMA'S RELATIONSHIP, JUST LIKE WITH HIS FRIEND THE TERRORIST AYERS! WHATEVER ELSE YOU THINK OF OBAMA, ONE THING IS FOR SURE-HE HAS SOME VERY QUESTIONABLE, SHADY PEOPLE AS HIS FRIENDS AND MENTORS-DOESN'T SAY MUCH FOR HIS JUDGMENT, AND BRINGING THE BLOWHARD PLAGIARIST BIDEN ON IS JUST MORE OF HIS FAULTY JUDGMENTS AT WORK!S

Posted by: SPRING RAIN | August 23, 2008 4:35 AM | Report abuse

i just found out, i'm sick didn't even consider hillary

Posted by: sue | August 23, 2008 4:35 AM | Report abuse

hey oxymoron (demsformccain).
yep, i'm both. but at least i'm informed and not stuck somewhere in a college dorm posting infantile remarks.
anybody who professes to be a democrat (you're probably just faking it) who would vote for mccain is either incredibly stupid, a liar or a nutcase. what could another gop president ever do for you. that's the party that exists to protect a person's money (and only substantial money needs to be protected). anyone else is voting gop against his own interests. not too bright.

Posted by: jumpingelephant | August 23, 2008 4:34 AM | Report abuse

he didn't hit it out of the park for thousands of women

Posted by: jill | August 23, 2008 4:33 AM | Report abuse

I can't believe the amazing amount of ignorance and lack of rational thinking from those who are clinton/mccain supporters...if you're going to slam obama please use some verified facts rather than feelings of unsubstantiated hatred and fear, or unconfirmed gossip...we concerned, poor, and disenfranchised american voters deserve better...i challenge all of you...give some facts when arguing against the democrat nominee who’s working hard to unite our great country… try to be a little more open minded…ask yourself if you are looking at obama’s positions objectively instead of listening to non-credited emails or blindly following hidden agendas from pundits who only look to blame instead of fix/improve….just some friendly advice--"don't criticize
What you can't understand...
Your old road is
Rapidly agin'.
Please get out of the new one
If you can't lend your hand
For the times they are a-changin."--dylan...

bama/biden o8

Posted by: paddy | August 23, 2008 4:32 AM | Report abuse

I can't believe the Dems are so freaking stupid. They had it all. The complete package, ready to go.

Hillary Clinton has the experience, knowledge, intelligence, good judgement, record of accomplishments, winner of the People's Vote, ready on day one, doesn't need a crutch for a VP, everything.

But, they allowed this zero to come along and send his thugs into the caucuses to steal delegates using theft, threats, force, and every kind of fraud imaginable.

Over 2000 complaints were filed in TX alone, with the phone lines jammed, and the DNC did nothing. They allowed the crook to take over the DNC so you'll never hear about those complaints again.

There's a whole website devoted just to Obama's caucus fraud and stolen delegates.

Obama, Pelosi, Dean, Brazile, etc. have ruined the Democratic Party.

Our only hope is that there are enough delegates with the brains and courage to nominate Hillary at the convention and save us.

Posted by: Keith | August 23, 2008 4:32 AM | Report abuse

Joe Biden is a GREAT pick, and the Biden/Obama ticket will be formidable!!! Biden is outspoken and will kick the crap out of McSame and whatever running mate he picks. I suspect there will be a good number of Republicans on these blogs masking as Democrats who have just changed their vote to McCain on the basis of Obama's VP pick (which doesn't even make sense actually). Barack made the best choice under the circumstances - and his choice was daring rather than "safe". Once again he has proven that he is a pragmatist who knows how to get the job done.
OBAMA/BIDEN 2008!!
OFF TO THE RACES AND MAY THE BEST MEN (OBAMA/BIDEN) WIN!!!!

Posted by: SueinPA | August 23, 2008 4:32 AM | Report abuse

My friends, until the other day I was an independent leaning McCain but now I'm going Obama/Biden. Obama hit this one out of the park.

McCain's huge blunder on his 7 homes shows that he's out of touch with most of us who are struggling to pay our mortgages. But even worse, he came across as a doddering old man who was confused when asked a question he couldn't respond to with a pre-programmed sound bite. And now he's going to pick Mitt Romney, Mr. Empty Suit? Suddenly, the choice is very clear to me and, I hope, most Americans.

Posted by: Anon | August 23, 2008 4:30 AM | Report abuse

i am going to stomp my way right to the mccain inaugural

Posted by: jill | August 23, 2008 4:30 AM | Report abuse

"I love this selection. Biden is as authentic as Obama. He has a lifetime of advocating for "little people" and has been rock solid in the realm of Democratic values."

OK - one more.

I hope the Democrats have step stools in the voting booths. If not, the "little people" may not be able to pull the levers to vote.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2008 4:28 AM | Report abuse

jumping - you are very angry and egotistic... probably causes you the problems you currently have... I hope this helps, think about it

Posted by: demsformccain | August 23, 2008 4:27 AM | Report abuse

"men telling women what to do again, just shut up and vote for obama - screw you i'm voting for mccain"

YEAH!

Are you going to hold your breath and stomp your feet till a woman gets the nomination?

How about "Condy" Rice. If there's a worse Secretary Of State since Wm. Christopher, You'll have to point it out. Is she going on another mission to broker peace and understanding in the Middle East? I stopped following when it hit a dozen times and nothing every happened, but she did look great on the TV footage of her disembarking the plane and shaking hands with people in an authoritative manner.

I have to go now. I'm tired, I'm misspelling my words and the tenses are all wrong. Tomorrow when I get some sleep I'll wonder why I ever bothered with people like you.

Anyone thinking America is a great country needs to read this blog.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2008 4:25 AM | Report abuse

I love this selection. Biden is as authentic as Obama. He has a lifetime of advocating for "little people" and has been rock solid in the realm of Democratic values. He has articulate "sharp elbows" which I believe will compliment Obama. And that is really my argument, they compliment each other. Obama embraces difference and though Biden came back at Obama during the presidential primaries, he did not sling venom. He played fair. When be bowed out he did not whine and moan and threat and strive to stir up strife. He accepted the judgment of the American people and did not dismiss those people that did not vote for him.

I'm sorry, but Clinton put herself in the position of not being a viable option. She suggested assassination as a reason to stay in the race even though she did not have a chance in hell to win at that point; she suggested McCain was better qualified; she consistently demeaned those good Americans, like myself, who went and caucused for our candidate. To Clinton, Obama supporters were misled, immature, drinking the kool-aid, etc...

Biden fought for the nomination, but was graceful when he knew the odds were against him. Biden did not feel he was entitled to the POTUS.

I'm thrilled and my fingers are primed to fight for our candidates and fight for the integrity of America!

Obama/Biden '08

Posted by: SouthPrairie Deb | August 23, 2008 4:24 AM | Report abuse

men telling women what to do again, just shut up and vote for obama - screw you i'm voting for mccain

Posted by: jill | August 23, 2008 4:23 AM | Report abuse

Anonymous-unfortunately, you're too young to really know what you're talking about. Whatever else you may think of Pres. Bush, the man had loads of experience for the job as President-he had been the Governor for several years of a huge state, which has a bigger domestic output than several medium sized European countries. As Gov., he has had to wrestle with intractable political opposition, pushing through budget and tax agendas, dealing with thorny issues like death penalties, myriad of problems both man-made and non, in short, all the things that you have to know and have experience in to be a good president-SOMETHING THAT OBAMA LACKS IN HIS ENTIRETY-NO LEADERSHIP EXPERIENCE NO MAYOR, NO GOVERNOR, NO BUSINESS EXPERIENCE-NOTHING NADA ZILCH-HE HAS NO EXPERIENCE WHATSOEVER TO OFFER THE AMERICAN PUBLIC-IT IS INSANITY THAT ANYONE WOULD THINK OF VOTING FOR THIS MAN WHEN WE ARE FACING SUCH AN UNCERTAIN AND DANGEROUS FUTURE!

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2008 4:23 AM | Report abuse

anonymous:
your ignorance is escalating. didn't say i worked for the government. far from it, but you won't be able to figure it out. i notice your grammar is lacking, which explains some of your views. fyi, most d.c. insiders recognize a right-wing nut when they see an adjective as "democrat" rather than "democratic." this practice probably is older than you are.
also, you might feel more comfortable blogging on craigslist along with the other frat boys.

Posted by: jumpingelephant | August 23, 2008 4:22 AM | Report abuse

men telling women what to do again, just shut up and vote for obama - screw you i'm voting for mccain

Posted by: jill | August 23, 2008 4:21 AM | Report abuse

The minions waiting for the text message from the One. (Whoopsi)

Absolutely hysterical.

Posted by: Jake | August 23, 2008 4:21 AM | Report abuse

"The Kingfish and the Senate's resident village idiot - a rank amateur with no resume and a hair-plug devotee with diarrhea of the mouth! What has become of the Democratic Party -- a zoo, that's what!"

THERE YOU GO AGAIN!

Alienating the hair-plug vote, many of whom are women and minorities.

I'll bet you have a college degree.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2008 4:20 AM | Report abuse

This is wonderful news!

Posted by: Sara B. | August 23, 2008 4:19 AM | Report abuse

men telling women what to do again, just shut up and vote for obama - screw you i'm voting for mccain

Posted by: jill | August 23, 2008 4:18 AM | Report abuse

WOW, we have change.

A Black Punk and an Old Guy with hair plugs.

Actually, I was hoping for an attractive intelligent woman who could give us another 8 years of Peace & Prosperity or another Greatest Economic Expansion in History or both.

Posted by: Charlene S. | August 23, 2008 4:17 AM | Report abuse

The Kingfish and the Senate's resident village idiot - a rank amateur with no resume and a hair-plug devotee with diarrhea of the mouth! What has become of the Democratic Party -- a zoo, that's what!

Posted by: J D Mayfield | August 23, 2008 4:17 AM | Report abuse

"Is he Gen. Obama? No, no military background. Brilliant Businessman Obama? No, he never worked in business. Famous Name Obama? No, it's a new name, an unusual one. Longtime Southern Governor Obama? No. He's a community organizer (what's that?), then a lawyer (boo), then a state legislator (so what, so's my cousin), then U.S. senator (less than four years!)."


Peggy;

If we held to this standard the guy that's been there the past 8 years wouldn't have won. And I'll bet you were a big supporter of his. You use the same red herring putdowns of others.

The funny thing about this election is that the Republicans are telling the voting public that is they vote for the Democrat, disaster will occur in America.

Well, that's why America voted Bush in twice, and if you think is Presidency is not a disaster, they you must spend your time raising money to put President Polk's face on the mountain.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2008 4:17 AM | Report abuse

jumping - if you want to work for a democrat president i guess you'll be waiting another 4 years, that will make it 12 years.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2008 4:15 AM | Report abuse

This is the GOP's worst nightmare - someone with substantial foreign policy experience. A great, great choice for Obama and for America.

And, hey, Hillary supporters. Time to get over things and line up behind the Obama-Biden ticket. That's politics. Think about it -- do you really want McCain instead? I doubt it.


Posted by: Monty Burns | August 23, 2008 4:15 AM | Report abuse

"At least I won't have to hold my nose and vote for Obama if he had Hillary on the ticket. Now I can vote for McCain with no smell of BO in the air."


Yes. The countries on the verge of a Depression. Lehman Brothers are being saved by Koreans. KOREANS? People over 40 work 50-60 hours a week on salary and are texted on vacations and off days - if they're lucky enough to have a job.

And your "bo" is the issue.

Got it.

A pity Captain Kangaroo isn't around for you anymore. I guess you're mad at God as well.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2008 4:13 AM | Report abuse

Is he Gen. Obama? No, no military background. Brilliant Businessman Obama? No, he never worked in business. Famous Name Obama? No, it's a new name, an unusual one. Longtime Southern Governor Obama? No. He's a community organizer (what's that?), then a lawyer (boo), then a state legislator (so what, so's my cousin), then U.S. senator (less than four years!).

Posted by: peggy noonan | August 23, 2008 4:12 AM | Report abuse

anonymous:
arrogant? maybe so. but unlike you, i do know how d.c. works. spent a career with a front row seat. want some more arrogant advice from somebody who knows how d.c. works? she would never be interested in a seat on the supreme court. it really does help to understand the individuals and the jobs.

Posted by: jumpingelephant | August 23, 2008 4:12 AM | Report abuse

With Joe Biden as his running mate, Obama has created a lopsided ticket, not a balanced ticket. He will look funny riding off into the sunset, campaigning for "change" with a side-kick who exhales stale, recycled Washington air. So much for "change". I predict a big loss for this mismatched pair.

Posted by: LJ | August 23, 2008 4:11 AM | Report abuse

"he just failed his second test, first was saddleback... the more the american people see of professor obama the less they like"

Really?

I'm in America and neither I nor no one I know feels that way.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2008 4:09 AM | Report abuse

OBAMA BIN BIDEN 08

At least I won't have to hold my nose and vote for Obama if he had Hillary on the ticket. Now I can vote for McCain with no smell of BO in the air.

HILLARY CLINTON 2012

Posted by: Carolyn K. | August 23, 2008 4:09 AM | Report abuse

After reading all the posts, it is obvious that the Democratic party is in total disaray. Dirty talk, hate and general immorality seems to be the banner. perhaps Obama could also chnage the Great Seal of the U.S. to accomidate his attitude if elected.

I do agree that women have really been short changed, after all their equal contributons to our great nation.
If I voted Dem. , which I will not, I would much prefer Clinton.
She does have experience and appears very prdictable to me, which is a pleasant change, wheather one agrees with her postions or not. The question is still there, Who.. is Barack Obama? and Biden sitting in the VP home wathcing football, waiting for Obama to die, doing nothing like all VPs., will add nothing to an Obama admistration. Obama is A lost silver tough young man, that has talked his way to this point with no experience, little knowledge nor experts to advise him.
It would be crazy to take a cance on Obama for president.

Posted by: Ted | August 23, 2008 4:08 AM | Report abuse


Really?

That's not what McCain pointed out during the primaries. And McCain won, didn't he?

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2008 4:08 AM | Report abuse

he just failed his second test, first was saddleback... the more the american people see of professor obama the less they like

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2008 4:08 AM | Report abuse

Typical moronic statements.

Milton Friedman used to say, "the rich don't pay any taxes, that's what tax attorneys are for".

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2008 4:06 AM | Report abuse

And Obama decides to send out the text message at 3:21 on a Saturday morning? If you wake me up at such an ungodly hour the building better be on fire.
Obama just lost my vote.

Posted by: Lugosi | August 23, 2008 4:05 AM | Report abuse

McCain has already selected Mitt Romney as his VP pick, so let's look at his background:

1. Romney scored a PERFECT (yes, that's right, perfect!) score on his SATS for college.

2. He started out at Stanford, then switched to BYU-graduated numero uno in his class!

3. He then went on to HARVARD AND GOT A DOUBLE JD/MBA DEGREE WITH HONORS. THAT'S A JD IN LAW, AND A MASTER'S IN BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION WITH HONORS AT THE SAME TIME! VERY DIFFICULT TO DO!

4. He has been a CEO involved in several successful business ventures, and was the CEO of the 2002 Winter Olympics.

4. He's the son of a governor of Michigan, and he has been a well-regarded governor of Mass. he has loads of political experience-his entire life.

5. He married his high school sweetheart and has 5 children

6. He's extremely telegenic

In short, Romney has an AWESOME resume, some people just take longer to get to know-with Romney as McCain's VP-there's every chance Romney would become well known and well liked by the American public, and possibly go on to be president.

You want someone who has it all, with no personal baggage or issues-THEN MITT ROMNEY IS YOUR MAN!

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2008 4:05 AM | Report abuse

It appears the majority of the people here don't have anything to do until Jerry Springer can get another show and they can go on as guests.

They'll be "political experts" specializing in calling people names.

I'll say this - Joe Biden has heald a job for 40 years.....more then I can say for the posters here.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2008 4:04 AM | Report abuse

jumping - When did Hillary come out and say she din't want the VP? I missed it can you tell me when it was. Just asking since I'm someone who doesn't understand how DC works... you are arrogant like Biden

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2008 4:03 AM | Report abuse

Bambi was just too stupid and egotistical to put the winner of the People's Votes on the ticket.

He will lose. His only hope was having Hillary carry him. He blew it.

Posted by: Jeff M. | August 23, 2008 4:02 AM | Report abuse

Biden!!! Awesome! Somebody with conviction. And experience. The man is a heaveyweight. Beat the GOP to an old wrinkled white pulp.

Posted by: kurt | August 23, 2008 4:02 AM | Report abuse

Woody, you can joke about McCain's houses...or his wife's houses as the case may be. But didn't you nominate a guy 4 years ago who has multiple homes across the country...or at least whose wife does?

And, really, is it a bad thing that some people own multiple homes? Many senators do--it's convenient to have a second home near D.C. And when successful business people carve out comfortable life for themselves, are you going to trash them for their success?

Oh, yeah, that's right. Complaining about successful people and taxing them to death is what you do. You're a Democrat.

Posted by: buzzardist | August 23, 2008 4:02 AM | Report abuse

Jill;

Who are you going to vote for?

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2008 4:01 AM | Report abuse

I am a real disaffected dem and a very upset one I WILL VOTE FOR MCCAIN AS WILL MANY OF MY FRIENDS WHO SUPPORTED HILLARY!

Posted by: Jill | August 23, 2008 3:59 AM | Report abuse

I am a real disaffected dem and a very upset one I WILL VOTE FOR MCCAIN AS WILL MANY OF MY FRIENDS WHO SUPPORTED HILLARY!

Posted by: Jill | August 23, 2008 3:57 AM | Report abuse

CHICAGO THUGS & HAIR PLUGS

Is this the Change we were looking for. I don't think so.

Posted by: Dave G, | August 23, 2008 3:56 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Obama-Biden 2008 | August 23, 2008 3:56 AM | Report abuse

You know, for McCain, Jindal of Louisiana is a good choice, except that he needs about 4 more years of experience to be ideal.

However, with Biden as the pick, and given Biden's gaffe about Indian Americans in Duncan Donuts and 7-Eleven, the sweet irony of putting an Indian American on the Republican ticket would almost be too delicious for me to pass up were I McCain.

Posted by: blert | August 23, 2008 3:56 AM | Report abuse

looking at the posts by people complaining because obama did not choose hillary. go to www.straightrecord.com, which said a couple of months ago that it is somewhat silly to think hillary would want to be a vp candidate. for eight years, she had the east wing of the white house, here husband was president and she believed she could win the presidency on her own. why would she take a veep job, with an office not in the white house but across the parking lot at the old eob? you people haven't the slightest idea of how washington operates, even though most of you live here.

Posted by: jumpingelephant | August 23, 2008 3:55 AM | Report abuse

Terry-I greatly fear you've never met anyone intelligent in your life if you're calling Biden "exceptionally" intelligent-that's QUITE a stretch of the imagination! Read down the posts about how "intelligent" Biden was when he was talking about "you have to be Indian to be in a Dunkin Donuts" and described Obama as "nice, clean, intelligent, good-looking guy"-and as far as foreign affairs-I don't think the man HAS A CLUE-HE'S ALMOST ALWAYS WRONG IN ANY OF HIS FOREIGN ANALYSES. IF THAT'S "EXCEPTIONALLY INTELLIGENT" AS YOU PUT IT, GOD HELP US!

Posted by: SPRING RAIN | August 23, 2008 3:55 AM | Report abuse


sorry mister drama queen obama king...

i am not amused by your antics in announcing your vice president choice.

this isn't a game. we are trying to elect a LEADER AND A PRESIDENT...

if you insist on being a game show host, then go apply for the 'price is right', and leave this country alone.

thank you.

Posted by: BOB | August 23, 2008 3:54 AM | Report abuse

IN SEARCH OF THE TRUTH

WHO LAUNCHED THE LATEST CAUCASIAN WAR?

Unfortunately, The Truth is often found by comparing versions.


In Moscow, The new U.S. Ambassador to Russia, John Beyrle, said a couple of days ago: "Russian forces, responded to attacks on Russian peacekeepers in South Ossetia, legitimately".

In Georgia, Joe Biden claimed:
"While the Russian government has claimed that the Georgian military was engaged in a “genocide” in the region of South Ossetia, Biden said he did not see any evidence of it on his trip."

All Biden had to do is LOOK more carefully!
In contrast to what Biden did not see, and wants us to believe, the American Ambassador, who had not yet learnt to lie, as is requested in the White House, told the truth.

All Biden had to do to find out who attacked first was to call HIS Ambassador!

Therefore we must question the wisdom of the O-BIDEN team's decision to support the Georgian War Monger!

Posted by: INDEX_ON_CENSORSHIP | August 23, 2008 3:53 AM | Report abuse

Hey Anonymous,

Spoken like a real thumbsucker.

Posted by: Jake | August 23, 2008 3:52 AM | Report abuse

Biden is an excellent choice by Obama. Both are smart and thoughtful in their judgment and will help lead this country in a new direction and help working class and average American's. Change and experience.

McCain represents four more years of the same failed Bush-Cheney economic, energy and foreign policies.

Seems like there are quite a few Republican shills who are posting here as disaffected dems.

Posted by: Russ | August 23, 2008 3:52 AM | Report abuse

Good morning America! It is the beginning of a brand new day and a brand new era with Senator Biden as Obama's VP pick. And oh yeah, he only has ONE house!

Posted by: Woody | August 23, 2008 3:51 AM | Report abuse

I'm very happy. Joe Biden is exceptionally intelligent, knowledgeable, experienced, and likable. Plus, he's got a good tough side that's going to work well, good cop/bad cop-wise, with Obama. They're going to form a great team, both as candidates and as leaders of the the Executive Branch. The United States just got an excellent outcome!

Posted by: Terry Carroll | August 23, 2008 3:50 AM | Report abuse

So, the messiah of change, after spouting so much of venom and vitriol against the old Washington style of politics, aka the Clintons, has added to hie repertoire of change, by making a Washington insider his running mate! The change comes only when it suits the need. Didn't Biden vote the same way as Sen Clinton on the Iraq war, which our candidate of change opposed so much and used it to distinguished himself from the evil Clintons? The swagger and the contempt of the Harvard Law School graduate for anything that comes in his way of political ambitions is all too obvious.

Posted by: Kathy | August 23, 2008 3:48 AM | Report abuse

Good pick. Biden can kick the sh#t out of anybody - especially McCain. Barack shows his street smarts once again.

Posted by: kurt hunt | August 23, 2008 3:47 AM | Report abuse

Without Hillary on the ticket, he is sunk. I'm sure the McCain camp is popping the champagne.

Hillary 2012

Posted by: Democrat in FL | August 23, 2008 3:47 AM | Report abuse

-DEMS FOR MCCAIN/ROMNEY 08-GO MITT ROMNEY! YOU'VE GOT WHAT IT TAKES, BABY!

Posted by: SPRING RAIN | August 23, 2008 3:47 AM | Report abuse

I just wrote a long post about the lack of people realizing how important this election is, how the US is in an extremely
critical point in our history, and it's being discussed by voters that positions themselves not as responsible adults, but as trash talking 4th graders that never grew up.

So since I made my post, that's what I see.

I'll bet 90% of the posters have college degrees.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2008 3:44 AM | Report abuse

He should have picked Hillary and controlled her, but he didn't because he is weak

Posted by: Yak | August 23, 2008 3:43 AM | Report abuse

We waited for this? To get a text message at 3am after it was already reported. Obama manipulator

Posted by: Jill | August 23, 2008 3:41 AM | Report abuse

Oh, R-Biden's isn't a bigot-that's giving him too much credit-more like a blowhard serial plagiarizing idiot is more like it. Kinda like his Presidential running mate, you know?

Posted by: spring rain | August 23, 2008 3:40 AM | Report abuse

Mr. Biden can you tell me how many hair plugs you have?

Biden - I'll have to let my staff get back to you on that.

Posted by: Red | August 23, 2008 3:39 AM | Report abuse

Obama/Biden = Empty suit/hair plug man for president

Posted by: jib | August 23, 2008 3:36 AM | Report abuse

With BIDEN OBAMA IS IN FOR TROUBLE!

Joe Biden is the Opposite of Jeremiah!

Biden knows who launched the attack on South Ossetia [Saakashvilli's Army with American and Israeli support]. Biden is indeed experienced in matters of Foreign Policy, and he knew that this would lead to a Russian counter attack.

But rather then condemn the current ruler of Georgia, who is so "democratic" as to lock his opposition in jail, Sen. Joe Biden has called for an immediate $1 billion supplemental appropriation, a proposal quickly endorsed by Barack Obama.

If that is what Obama stands for, than to see the differences between Obama and McCain we would need a microscope.

Do we need two Democrats to execute DEOMCRATIC NEOCON Policies?

Posted by: WORLD GUARDIAN | August 23, 2008 3:35 AM | Report abuse

Biden said that he has seen Indian people in many duncan donuts, he is a bigot, a plagarizing bigot for that matter

Posted by: Ritesh | August 23, 2008 3:33 AM | Report abuse

Joe Biden don't take no crap!

Posted by: lwps | August 23, 2008 3:31 AM | Report abuse

Well, once more women have been told politics is a boys' own back room.

Maybe we should just stop serving them in their daily life. Women serving men give them time to play all those games with each other.

Posted by: asoders22 | August 23, 2008 3:31 AM | Report abuse

I liked Joe Biden when he was running for President. He was the only one that seemed to act like an adult while all the others were playing games by distorting issues so a 4th grader would not vote for their opponent because he/she had coodies. Those people knew exactly what they were doing. it's just a joke to them. Spin has now so understandable, that the voting public plays the game - witness the posts here - instead of demanding actions for the public good.

Now I read that Joe Biden is no good because he's been in office in DC for 40-some years. Yes, he must be a dinosaur. Like all people over 50 with ulcers and war wounds in all walks of life in America. The world is not perfect, so there is no need to listen to them/us. Let's pick an outsider for President that has never accomplished anything other then for his self-betterment like the Governor of Texas we got 8 years ago that has brought misery to 90% of the people I know that are over 50 and their families - starting with few jobs for their college educated children that are full time or offer any benefits. The US is now like the old Soviet Union. The best jobs are with the government - Federal, State, Local. Health benefits the private sector is in the process of removing, pensions that the private sector seldom gives anymore, and no need to worry about lay-offs during difficult economic times.

America is in a truly sad state. Here at the countries leading newspaper in what has become a sandbox of mud slinging as people "compete" like trained (from their highly paid "advisers") monkeys for 6 and 7 figure jobs from the government, I see little to do with assuming responsibility in an adult manner that shows respect for the people in what is left of middle America that are paying for all this - mostly with their future, as their money has been pissed away.

The other day I thought about how financially stable America would be if the government would confiscate all the money used in political campaigns, and used that money to pay down the debt and subsidize health care for all....you know - like the health care the government workers get.

As the writer from Baltimore said 80-90 years ago, "in a democracy the people get the government they deserve".


Posted by: Ben Melman | August 23, 2008 3:29 AM | Report abuse

i'm pissed, didn't even consider hillary - vote mccain, biden's a loser

Posted by: pat | August 23, 2008 3:29 AM | Report abuse

The Post analysis about why Biden would NOT make a good pick is interesting:


Loose Lips Sink Ships

Over the course of his presidential bid, Biden cemented his reputation as -- how to put this nicely? -- less than disciplined on the campaign trail.


In the summer of 2006, as he was publicly mulling the race, Biden set off a controversy over comments he made about Indian Americans.

"I've had a great relationship [with Indian Americans]," Biden said. "In Delaware, the largest growth in population is Indian-Americans moving from India. You cannot go to a 7-Eleven or a Dunkin' Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent. I'm not joking."

On the day he formally announced his candidacy, a New York Observer story that quoted Biden as calling Obama "articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy" came out, and the resultant uproar effectively undercut any momentum Biden was hoping to build.


Sen. Joseph R. Biden Jr. (D-Del.), chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee, talks to Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) during the hearing. While Biden was on his best verbal behavior for much of the rest of the campaign, there is no question that his tendency to shoot from the lip worries some in Obama world. As one Democratic consultant put it: "You know there will be three days in the campaign where someone in Chicago will get a call and respond -- 'What did you say he said?.'"

For a campaign that prides itself on its message discipline, choosing Biden would be introducing a wildcard into the mix. The Obama campaign exudes quiet confidence that if they do the basic political work between now and Nov. 4 the Illinois senator will be president. Do they really want to risk it with Biden?

Plagiarizer In Chief

Way back in 1987, Biden was riding high in the presidential race -- widely regarded as a serious contenders for the Democratic party's nod.

Then Neil Kinnock happened. Biden borrowed passages of a speech given by Kinnock, a leader in Britain's Labour Party, without attribution -- a mistake that led to a detailed examination of Biden's public statements that turned up several more examples of potential plagiarism and resume inflation. The feeding frenzy eventually chased the Delaware senator from the race.

The incident has become the stuff of political lore -- type "Joe Biden and Neil Kinnock" into Google and more than 37,000 hits are returned -- even though those close to Biden insist that the actual facts surrounding the incidents are largely overblown.

Maybe. But, while any political junkie worth his (or her) name knows all about the Kinnock incident, it's a mistake to assume the average voter knows about it. In the words of one Republican strategist: "Old news inside the Beltway, new news outside."

That reality means that in every story about Biden done in the aftermath of his selection, Kinnock's name and the allegations of plagiarism would come up. It would complicate the desired flawless roll-out of the new ticket and could even raise questions about Obama's commitment to a new kind of politics.

Posted by: spring rain | August 23, 2008 3:29 AM | Report abuse

Joe Biden has the distinct advantage of knowing how many houses he owns.

Posted by: Berliner2 | August 23, 2008 3:25 AM | Report abuse

I like Biden, but he is a rather unlikeable guy. I can't see how he is going to help the tcket.

Posted by: lwps | August 23, 2008 3:25 AM | Report abuse

Biden is an interesting, safe pick. He will excite the rabid Biden fans, but probably not anyone else. He doesn't deliver a swing state. He brings strong Senate credentials, but no executive experience. Biden is older, but still spry compared to McCain.

Biden also opened his own campaign by calling Obama "articulate." The comment didn't play well, and it set back Biden's campaign before he even got started.

In the past number of elections, too, senators have a terrible record running for president. This election, we have two senators, so the question of a senator losing to a governor is moot. However, putting two senators on the same ticket might be tempting fate.

And if Biden's convention speech is two hours long, or if his debate responses take 15 minutes each, Obama is dead. The Senate is full of windbags, but Biden is a windbag among windbags. During SCOTUS nominee hearings, I remember Biden talking for 10 minutes to ask a simple question that any normal person could pose in about 30 seconds, and then the nominees barely taking a minute or two to reply to Biden's dry stump speeches. Biden certainly won't be accused of speaking style over substance, although how much substance his long statements contain is also up for debate.

We will see how effective Patti Solis Doyle and the Obama campaign are at controlling Biden, and it will be interesting to see how McCain counters. McCain would be very smart in response to pick a governor.

Posted by: blert | August 23, 2008 3:23 AM | Report abuse

ok
biden's an idiot
bush rules and u are haters
obama is a pawn, a puppet
mccain is least likely to mess things up. They are all too liberal for our own good.
liberals will continue to bring down the republic. they believe in feelings. not facts
oh and journalists lie. I know i used to be one.

Posted by: erock6 | August 23, 2008 3:23 AM | Report abuse

Guess the Post wanted to pitch the otherside of Biden as well.


http://voices.washingtonpost.com/thefix/2008/08/the_case_against_joe_biden.html

Posted by: Colorado | August 23, 2008 3:23 AM | Report abuse

mr. obama you've just lost my vote.

Posted by: mad as hell | August 23, 2008 3:21 AM | Report abuse

Hey Demgirl,

In the immortal words of John Riggins, Hall of Fame Redskins fullback, to Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day O'Connor: "Loosen up, baby."

Posted by: Jake | August 23, 2008 3:21 AM | Report abuse

VP's aren't built to be super exciting, rule no.1 don't harm the campaign. This has been achieved and then some.

Biden, overall has been a great democratic senator fighting for the middle-class, he holds progressive values on taxation, energy, civil rights and shares Obama's health care plan. He got the original vote on the iraq war wrong, which he now regrets (which is too bad because that was a no-brainer from my view) (But McCain can't do any better)(Can't win them all)

But he gets a B in my book. Solid choice and a great debater that will wipe Romney's (assuming) phoney song and dance into the dirt.

Posted by: A hard worker. | August 23, 2008 3:20 AM | Report abuse

McCain/Romney? That's a ticket that'll relate to your average American worker. Between them they have 11 homes. At least they will get the household staff vote.

Posted by: deepthought | August 23, 2008 3:20 AM | Report abuse

Rubiconski wrote:

"Biden's HAIR PLUGS pulled his brain off its moorings

It makes him look bad and there is no way to leave feedback on his website so I am going public with my criticism here.

He is duller than watching paint dry.
He steals other people's thoughts and makes them his own.
He had the audacity to think he could be president.
His mouth overloads his brain about 10 times per day.
He is a self-proclaimed zionist.
He is an east coast, entrenched politician who needs to be tossed ASAP."

FUNNY! BUT TRUE, ISN'T IT? HIS HAIR PLUGS REALLY DID DO SOMETHING TO HIS BRAIN-THAT'S PAINFULLY OBVIOUS! FOREIGN POLICY EXPERT? THAT'S THE FUNNIEST THING I'VE EVER HEARD-MORE OFTEN THAN NOT HE'S DEAD WRONG ON JUST ABOUT ANYTHING THAT COMES OUT OF HIS LONG-WINDED MOUTH! ABSOLUTELY THE WORST PICK OBAMA COULD HAVE COME UP WITH-GOOD JOB CAROLINE-YOU MORON!

Posted by: SPRING RAIN | August 23, 2008 3:20 AM | Report abuse

CHANGE IS COMING TO AMERICAN AND THAT CHANGE IS McCAIN

VJ Machiavelli
http://www.vjmachiavelli.blogspot.com
ps Obama has lied to his core supporters and you should never lie to "YOUNG PEOPLE" who believed in your message of change.
pps I guess all those "Young People" will be the "LAST" to know he lied to them again.

Posted by: VJ Machiavelli | August 23, 2008 3:19 AM | Report abuse

McCain, the ball is in his court now. He should pick a female like Kay Baily Hutchington and start picking up the conservatives and the female vote. Obama's change message is starting to fade as well as his enthusiasm in his recent speeches. He is starting to look like every other politician and the polls show it.

Posted by: Edabel | August 23, 2008 3:16 AM | Report abuse

From Bayn to Biden, keerist this took too damn long. At least I dont have to pick up tape and deliver food to our minions from the maus anymore at Bahyn's haus or however he spells it. Ohblahblah has finally, FINALLY selected his doom, er um his running mate. Whatever. I'll be happy when all this scheisse is over come mid November. Then i can finally take a vacation. Till then, GO SKINS!!!! fook the cowgirls!!!!

Posted by: bryan2369 | August 23, 2008 3:15 AM | Report abuse

I gave the Obama campaign my cell phone number and email. I hate giving out my cell phone number. But, even though I suspected it was a bit of a campaign racket intended to increase the phone numbers in the ol' database, I thought it'd still be cool to get the news first. (Even if it's first by only 30 seconds.)There seemed to be such a huge, orchestrated build-up to this announcement, I thought it \
would be something huge. (I'll admit, I kept hoping that it would be Al Gore. The best choice by far in my opinion.) But no.

So I gave out my cell phone number and got no benefit from it at all. I'll still vote for Obama, and now Biden, but honestly I'm feeling pretty annoyed and let down right now.

Posted by: demgirl | August 23, 2008 3:14 AM | Report abuse

Great News About Biden!! We think he is one of the great Americans in our history. Here is some more American history, happening this week!

An Obama-inspired Katrina Releif Album being released from Seattle-based musicians Pearl Jam's Matt Cameron and The Bergevin Brothers.

~It seems that not since 1788 when America"s first composer of secular music, Francis Hopkinson, wrote "Seven Songs for the Harpsichord", and dedicated it to the nation"s first president, George Washington, has there been a complete album written for and dedicated to a presidential candidate.

Seattle, WA (Issues Wire / PRWEB) August 11, 2008 -- "Seven Songs For America and One For The World" is an album produced by The Bergevin Brothers which features Matt Cameron of Pearl Jam and ABC's 2007 Person of The Year, Pastor Pat Wright, and her Total Experience Gospel Choir and seeks to raise money for Hurricane Katrina victims on this 3rd anniversary, and just in time for the opening of the Democratic Convention. The CD that includes, 'Fired Up, Ready to Go', displayed as one of two songs on Barack Obama's YouTube Favorites, captures the spirit of the campaign's message for Americans and the world at this historic time.

The album can be purchased at the web site www.BergevinBrothersMusic.com

If you have not viewed the groups work, you can visit YouTube online to view their popular music video "Fired Up, Ready To Go" at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyJ72iZ3tW4
Contact information For The Bergevin Brothers: brothers@bergevinbrothersmusic.com

Posted by: Joe Bergevin | August 23, 2008 3:14 AM | Report abuse

I couldn't be happier.

Mccain 08

Posted by: Tom Thumb | August 23, 2008 3:13 AM | Report abuse

I believe that in order for McCain to counter
Omama's pick of Joe Biden effectively, he
(McCain) should now pick rapper 50 Cent.

S D Rodrian
http://poems.sdrodrian.com

Posted by: S D Rodrian | August 23, 2008 3:13 AM | Report abuse

T Down wrote:
T Down wrote:

"Changing the face of Washington huh a-hole? With one of the longest serving Democratic Senators huh?


You lost me. McCain/Romney 08. Our economy is more important than your effing ego!!!

Well put! McCain/Romney is DEFINITELY THE WINNABLE TICKET HERE!

Posted by: SPRING RAIN | August 23, 2008 3:13 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: LC | August 23, 2008 3:12 AM | Report abuse

From Bayn to Biden, keerist this took too damn long. At least I dont have to pick up tape and deliver food to our minions from the maus anymore at Bahyn's haus or however he spells it. Ohblahblah has finally, FINALLY selected his doom, er um his running mate. Whatever. I'll be happy when all this scheisse is over come mid November. Then i can finally take a vacation. Till then, GO SKINS!!!! fook the cowgirls!!!!

Posted by: bryan2369 | August 23, 2008 3:12 AM | Report abuse

cheney in a blue suit.


that is a good thing.

Posted by: bloggod | August 23, 2008 3:11 AM | Report abuse

The democrats will lose it again. I give up. I'm ready for the Grand Old Party!

Posted by: BC | August 23, 2008 3:09 AM | Report abuse

Biden's HAIR PLUGS pulled his brain off its moorings

It makes him look bad and there is no way to leave feedback on his website so I am going public with my criticism here.

He is duller than watching paint dry.
He steals other people's thoughts and makes them his own.
He had the audacity to think he could be president.
His mouth overloads his brain about 10 times per day.
He is a self-proclaimed zionist.
He is an east coast, entrenched politician who needs to be tossed ASAP.

Posted by: Rubiconski | August 23, 2008 3:08 AM | Report abuse

love the pick

Posted by: prb | August 23, 2008 3:08 AM | Report abuse

Biden bores you to tears, Dems? Tough. Who else are you going to vote for sweethearts?

In my mind, Obama has gone from potentially revolutionary U.S. President to some Black Affirmative Action Harvard Law guy afraid to cut loose from the white man's leash.

This makes me physically ill. Even if Obama/Biden prevail, I'll still be nauseated by the ticket's Dukakis/Bentzen-ish vibe.

Posted by: Barnacle Bob | August 23, 2008 3:06 AM | Report abuse

For "grace" and all the other phonies planting their trash here:

I can tell by the desperate tone of the usual Rethuglican plants on this site, that their slimy bosses are worried sick that Senator Obama picked the best person to be his Vice President.

All these phony impostors who say they would have voted for him, if only he had picked x, y,or z are just paid liars.

Joe Biden is an honorable, decent, intelligent man, and makes Dick Cheney look like Mortimer Snerd.

Get over yourselves, haters. Your lies will not work this time. Bomber McCain is not going to fool anyone this time. We are not his "Friends."

Now if the poor delusional guy can just remember how to get back to one of his wife's many "homes".
I do worry about him.

Not this time.

Posted by: Alexis | August 23, 2008 3:06 AM | Report abuse

Hey TLP,

Great minds think alike.

Posted by: Jake | August 23, 2008 3:05 AM | Report abuse

Very Interesting.
Now we have someone, who really knows my senator John McCain. No more NEGS from the Arizona Senator, Joe knows John's missed votes, and bad positions. Biden will fire back! Shame McCain will still be in the Senate, after all is said and done, well, for another 2 years anyway. Looking forward to the VP Debate now! WOW!
Cool in the desert of Arizona

Posted by: DBWSR | August 23, 2008 3:04 AM | Report abuse

His VP choice wasnt Bayh people..............stop listening to the damn BBC for christ sake.

Obama has posted on his website who his VP is:

http://www.barackobama.com/index.php

Posted by: LC | August 23, 2008 3:04 AM | Report abuse

response to: (Chris Stewart | August 23, 2008 2:52 AM)

You're right. The electorate is getting younger, and most of it can't relate to someone who doesn't use computers, sings Beach Boy tunes and is old enough to be their grandfather. That said, Obama has support of 1/3 of the 50+ group, and the experience issue is certainly becoming more of an X factor. His selection of Biden is synonymous with Kennedy's choice of LBJ, to which you alluded. The good news is that Biden is not LBJ.

Posted by: Dr. Don Key | August 23, 2008 3:04 AM | Report abuse

Hey Jimmy @ 2:37,
Nanny,Nanny.Boo,Boo.
Get a life...you'll like it better.

Posted by: HoosierDaddy | August 23, 2008 3:02 AM | Report abuse

I guess nobody here listens to BBC radio? They affirmed it was Bayh--so I don't see the sense of many of these posts below.

Posted by: midwest | August 23, 2008 3:02 AM | Report abuse

"I am deeply disturbed that the Obama campaign promised its supporters that they would be the first to know about the VP choice via text message. Apparently it was a bunch of BS since all the news sites already have Biden as the VP.

I know this is a minor thing, but it is one lie too many. I am now a McCain supporter."

Posted by: Kevin | August 23, 2008 2:36 AM

___________________________________

good grief, kevin...you're surely a willow in the wind...the campaign hasn't confirmed it, so, technically, this is still conjecture...and i'm sure you will receive your coveted text message prior to the formal announcement to the press...

obama cannot control the freedom of the press and their tenacious efforts for the skinny on things...he, in fact, is not moses...

and if you are dopey enough to switch to a candidate the polar opposite of what you supported up until an hour ago, this is far more telling about you, than your former hopeful.

Posted by: jazzgrrrl25 | August 23, 2008 3:02 AM | Report abuse

For all the VOTERS out there - READ Obama's books Dreams From My Father- and Audacity Of Hope and Biden's book -Promises To Keep . Biden is an older dude - But he is a "mench " - just because your young doesn't mean you can't relate to an older person . Biden is an original - and together they will change our country from the disaster of the past 8 years . I am very pleased - for those who think Obama doesn't combat enough against the Republicans - wait till ole Joe gets going ! It is going to be FUN !! Yes - OUR TIME IS NOW !!

Posted by: Thomas Dehne Jr | August 23, 2008 3:02 AM | Report abuse

Obama has posted on his website who his VP is:

http://www.barackobama.com/index.php

Posted by: LC | August 23, 2008 3:02 AM | Report abuse

This is just GREAT news for Obama.

Posted by: Obama wins Delaware! | August 23, 2008 3:02 AM | Report abuse

This should have been a no brainer, but he screwed it up. I smell a Kerry-like defeat in the air.

Posted by: TLP | August 23, 2008 3:02 AM | Report abuse

Very Interesting.
Now we have someone, who really knows my senator John McCain. No more NEGS from the Arizona Senator, Joe knows John's missed votes, and bad positions. Biden will fire back! Shame McCain will still be in the Senate, after all is said and done, well, for another 2 years anyway.
Cool in the desert of Arizona

Posted by: DBWSR | August 23, 2008 3:02 AM | Report abuse

Y'know, if there's still such a thing as a "favorite son" in politics and political calculations, Biden can deliver the electoral powerhouse of **Delaware** for the Dems. Why, that state has more people than many counties!!

Some real shrewd politicing there, Dems.

Posted by: sglover | August 23, 2008 3:02 AM | Report abuse

This is just GREAT news for Obama.

Posted by: Obama wins Delaware! | August 23, 2008 3:02 AM | Report abuse

This should have been a no brainer, but he screwed it up. I smell a Kerry-like defeat in the air.

Posted by: TLP | August 23, 2008 3:02 AM | Report abuse

McCain,

The ball is in your court. Pick a female like Kay Baily hutchington and start picking up the conservatives and the female vote. Obama's change message is starting to fade as well as his enthusiasm in his recent speeches. He is starting to look like every other politician and the polls show it.

Posted by: Edabel | August 23, 2008 2:59 AM | Report abuse

"I wonder if Biden is going to admit that the "surge" has been a success?" some moron.

The war itself was a criminal act which has cost us over a trillion dollars, 4,000 American lives, and over 30,000 serious casualties. It has cost the Iraqi people total destruction of their cities, several hundred thousand lives lost, and over a million displaced refugees- and you are crowing about a "surge" which introduced 30,000 American troops to act as policemen, erected huge concrete walls to separate Sunni and Shia, paid the various militias millions of dollars to quit killing our troops, while manning hundreds of roadblocks, and instituting curfews. The city has become an armed fortress.

The "surge" reduced the violence level, but it did not even come close to achieving peace and reconstruction in Iraq.

We are currently spending over two billion dollars in that country with no end in sight.

Baghdad is considered to be the most dangerous city in the world, and our soldiers cannot leave the fortified green zone without being in armored vehicles, and massive combat air support.

There was no al queda present in Iraq before the illegal war started, and now we have just spent billions relocating most of them to Afghanistan.

Exactly how did the "surge" work? It shouldn't have been necessary in the first place.

I remember General Westmoreland saying " He saw the light at the end of the tunnel" in Viet-Nam and we just needed another hundred thousand troops and a couple of years to "win" in that small country. We have learned nothing since then.

John McCain is just reliving his nightmare and will continue to spar at the quixotic windmills conjured up by his POW experience. The "I know how to win wars" candidate must not be allowed to start another one to try and prove it.

Not his time.

Viet-Nam Veteran
United States Air Force 1963-1968

Posted by: Lucas Gilmore | August 23, 2008 2:59 AM | Report abuse

fj-you have to give some of the moron credit to Caroline Kennedy, the know nothing never held a job in her entire life super elitist who was his VP vetter-those two deserve each other!

Posted by: Spring Rain | August 23, 2008 2:58 AM | Report abuse

In 2002, he said that America had “no choice but to eliminate” Saddam Hussein.

Wow.

Posted by: Biden on Iraq | August 23, 2008 2:57 AM | Report abuse

Yes we can?

Oh no we can't!

Posted by: Bill Ray | August 23, 2008 2:57 AM | Report abuse

Looks like Nader gets my vote. Obama must really be an idiot.

Posted by: Tomic Romic | August 23, 2008 2:57 AM | Report abuse

I heard it on the BBC that it is Bayh, not Biden. Go hear it for yourselves!!!

Posted by: midwest | August 23, 2008 2:56 AM | Report abuse


nacllcan wrote:
This is what we know about McCain:
In December 1966, when John McCain requested his first combat assignment in Vietnam, Barack Obama was a happy 5 year old.

As Obama turned 7 McCain survived a burning jet fire on the USS Forrestal and had just flown his 23rd bombing mission over communist North Vietnam.

In 1973, as Obama reached age 12, McCain was finally released from a prisoner-of-war camp in the Hanoi Hilton. Because he refused early repatriation over preferred treatment and abandoning his fellow prisoners he suffered more years in that hell.

****You mean it wasn't his turn to be released for propaganda reasons*******

At age 15, when Obama was still in high school, McCain became the commanding officer of the largest Squadron in the Navy. He turned a problem ridden unit into a cutting edge combat team.

***Hee Hee the command was a gimme because of who his father and grandfather were.***

When Obama reached the legal age of 21 and was experimenting with pot and cocaine, McCain declined promotion to admiral to run, successfully, for Congress.

Hee Hee HAR HAR HAR!!! Oh Spit you must be kidding!!!

Senator McCain “NEVER EVER” in your wildest wet dreams turned down an opportunity to become an admiral.
If you believe that you are in the same category as crocket and dwight!!!!

The only reason Senator was not retired after he returned from Viet Nam was because his father and grandfather were flag officers as in admirals.

McCain crashed five air planes! How many Naval Academy graduates, 895th out of 899, have an opportunity to do that???????????????

Senator McCain left the Navy with a disability pension after twenty years, admiral my touch!

I’m delighted you pointed out Senator Obama’s age in comparison to Senator McCain’s age.

Senator McCain will be 72 years old on August 29th.

His hero Ronald Reagan was 70 years old when he became president, recall Reagan was shot on March 30, 1981.

From that point on Reagan declined in health and mental acuity.

By his second term, well documented, he was definitely suffering from Alzheimer.

Nancy Reagan along with her astrologers and James, jimmy bob, Baker were running the United States Of America, both unelected.

Nancy and Baker would not give up control to G.H.W. Bush because they knew he was an oily neo-con.
Baker was just a Gingrich, Delay, Ted Stevens greedy oily republican.

Recall also Reagan left the USA with a 5 TRILLION DOLLAR DEBT!!!

AND cheney/bush have added another 5TRILLION DOLLARS OF DEBT!!!!

Senator McCain has suffered way way more trauma than Reagan so I’m concerned about who he will select as his running mate.

If you look at the GOP possibilities it’s a bunch of old senators and a few congressmen and a couple of governors.

The GOP is out of gas!!!!

Oh and there’s Carly Fiorina, I’m not sure what she would bring to the ticket.

The Alaskan GOP governor ticked of the oil companies so they are after her for corruption, amazing huh!

So! Nacllan tell us how another RICH old republican, Senator McCain, has the vision thing to pay off 10 TRILLION DOLLAR DEBT TO CHINA, keep the troops in Iraq, bomb Iran, protect Georgia and cut taxes for middle class AMERICANS making 4.9 MILLION DOLLAR$.
WEEEE’RE waiting

Posted by: JAC | August 23, 2008 2:56 AM | Report abuse

For those saying Bayh is Obamas VP choice:

https://donate.barackobama.com/page/contribute/splashone

Posted by: LC | August 23, 2008 2:55 AM | Report abuse

We need more golfers in the White House.Won't you people ever get it? Geez.

Posted by: HoosierDaddy | August 23, 2008 2:55 AM | Report abuse

"Now the Democrats will have to deal with another Kerry moment - "I voted for the Iraq war first and then voted against it!""

Yep. Pathetic. And typical of the Dems to pull defeat out of what should be a lopsided victory.

Posted by: sglover | August 23, 2008 2:55 AM | Report abuse

What an awful choice. We all know that policies don't make elections (Not all of it anyways), and Biden has been known to say VERY stupid things.

One of the admirable things about Senator Obama is his ability to keep his cool. Even when you can tell he is upset about something, he will take a deep breath and calmly answer the question. Biden is the complete opposite, and the last thing we need is for him to go on some mad rant on Election eve.

GOD, why is it that the only major party who has decent ideas couldn't win a presidential election against a flea? I can't see this pick giving Obama a bump in the polls, I really can't. If McCain is smart, he'll choose a woman or Liebermann. That will essentially seal the election for him.

Thanks Democratic Party, we get another 4 years of Bush. *sigh* Come on, 60 seats in the Senate...

Posted by: Pie-Kun | August 23, 2008 2:55 AM | Report abuse

Hell knows no fury like a woman scorned.

Mccain 08 Hillary 12

Posted by: Babs | August 23, 2008 2:55 AM | Report abuse

Great pick Obama.Biden is a straight shooter and one we need to counter the so called express talk.Its a lock and now we at the two minute warning. no more red flags baby ,its nothing but an official booth review!!!!!!!!!! GO DEMS

Posted by: Arap sang ( kansas city) | August 23, 2008 2:54 AM | Report abuse

"John McCain is a personal friend, a great friend, and I would be honored to run with or against John McCain, because I think the country would be better off..."

Unbelievable, Biden was willing to take up the VP offer no matter whether it came from Obama or McCain. What a joke.

Posted by: Obama on McCain | August 23, 2008 2:53 AM | Report abuse

Anyone that doesn't know how smart Biden is check out his debate clips!

Biden rocks!!!

Dartmouth
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9lpiDzeQcI

MSNBC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuOkXgZqofA

Posted by: Chris Stewart | August 23, 2008 2:53 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Kevin | August 23, 2008 2:36 AM

I am deeply disturbed that the Obama campaign promised its supporters that they would be the first to know about the VP choice via text message. Apparently it was a bunch of BS since all the news sites already have Biden as the VP.
I know this is a minor thing, but it is one lie too many. I am now a McCain supporter.

-------------

There really ought to be an IQ test to be allowed to vote.

The news was LEAKED, fool. The campaign didn't ANNOUNCE it yet. Do you really think they would make the decision to announce 1:30 in the morning?

And even if they did, you think that's a reason to change your vote to a candidate whose views are the complete opposite?

No wonder we keep electing idiots. Too many voters are, too.

Posted by: Barrack & Joe | August 23, 2008 2:53 AM | Report abuse

Hmmmm. My text message must have gotten lost.

Posted by: TRex | August 23, 2008 2:53 AM | Report abuse

Obama 'n Biden sounds like Osama BinLaden

Posted by: Jack Jack | August 23, 2008 2:53 AM | Report abuse

Dr. Don Key,

Interesting analysis. The other part you miss is that this election will define a new generation. Strong participation from younger people will be important too. much like baby boomers picked Kennedy at a key momement in history, Obama will mark a fundamental shift that backed by younger people (en masse).

Posted by: Chris Stewart | August 23, 2008 2:52 AM | Report abuse

So he picked an eldery buddy that Chairs the Senate Foreign Relations Committee......wow all of a sudden I'm comfortable having this inexperienced & underqualified man as President.....NOT.
Obama has shown that he is not CHANGE....he is just like ALL other politicians out there. He will do and say what is needed to get elected. Bidens experience means nothing...Biden will not be the decision maker.

Posted by: LC | August 23, 2008 2:52 AM | Report abuse

The BBC just said that Bayh was the one chosen. Go hear them.

Posted by: midwest | August 23, 2008 2:52 AM | Report abuse

I cannot believe he just tanked this election. The republicans are falling all over themselves tonight.

Posted by: Rod | August 23, 2008 2:51 AM | Report abuse

From George Washington and Abraham Lincoln, to Barack Obama and John Mccain.

Hmmmmm!

Posted by: Toni | August 23, 2008 2:50 AM | Report abuse

What a great choice ! I have read the 2 Obama books and the Biden book " Promises To Keep " These are two very intelligent men who live by the Golden Rule - and put themselves in others positions . Barack has just scored a touchdown and his running back Biden just did it for him ! I am happy and proud to call them MR.President and Mr.Vice-President !! USA USA USA !

Posted by: Thomas Dehne Jr | August 23, 2008 2:49 AM | Report abuse

Can dumb get any dumber?

Posted by: Shay | August 23, 2008 2:48 AM | Report abuse

Outstanding choice, to create some parity on the issues of experience and foreign policy. However, the biggest plus will be with the 50+ age voting block, where McSame has a huge lead. While McCain fought in 'Nam, he's essentially a generation removed from the baby boomers. The older people get, the more set in their ways they become. I expect few voters of McCain's age and up, to vote for Obama. However, this election will test whether or not the baby boomers will walk the walk. The fought for social equality in the 60s, but are they willing to vote for a person of color who epitomizes that change? They'll also be collecting a whole lot of social security within the next few decades. Do they honestly think that McMillions will ensure that the funds are still there after they retire?

Posted by: Dr. Don Key | August 23, 2008 2:48 AM | Report abuse

spring rain,

You almost had me sold on Romney until you got to the 'speaks fluent French' part. This is proof Romney's not only a Mormon, but a socialist Mormon.

Posted by: McCain's Done | August 23, 2008 2:48 AM | Report abuse

Anyone that doesn't know how smart Biden is check out his debate clips!

Biden rocks!!!

Dartmouth
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9lpiDzeQcI

MSNBC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuOkXgZqofA

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2008 2:47 AM | Report abuse

Anyone actually get a text message?

Posted by: ESO | August 23, 2008 2:47 AM | Report abuse

Sandra, wanting a woman president is fine, but not at the expense of the continuation of Republican policies.

So you're saying it's OK that Grace and others would vote for McCain because they are angry that Obama beat your candidate?

If true, you have no real beliefs about what will help our country. You're just bitter because your candidate lost. Get over it.

We're at war, our economy sucks and Republicans are undercutting our constitutions protections at every turn. the stakes are high.

Any you're angry because Democrats "won't let" a woman get elected? You AND Grace need to grow up.

It ain't all about you, sister.

Posted by: Ugh | August 23, 2008 2:46 AM | Report abuse

It has nothing to do with how Biden "is" it has everything to do with more of the same.

That's why many of us were believing in Obama, he was something different. Now he's not so much.

Posted by: Sam A. | August 23, 2008 2:46 AM | Report abuse

You're all wrong. It's Bayh who has been chosen. I just checked.

Posted by: midwest | August 23, 2008 2:46 AM | Report abuse

I find it very interesting how well the Republicans control Democratic presidential politics. Clearly, Biden was chosen because McCain was making inroads with his constant arguments that Obama is not ready to be president.

Now the Democrats will have to deal with another Kerry moment - "I voted for the Iraq war first and then voted against it!"

I can see the Republican TV ad right now - a clip of Biden during the 4,000 primary debates stating that Obama is not ready to be President. Then Bill Clinton's recent unequivocal support for Obama as President. Then Hillary's primary attacks that Obama is a great speaker, and a poor do_er! The ad ends with McCain leaning back in his chair with a hint of a smile on his face saying "I am John McCain. I approved this message, and I rest my case!"

Posted by: geonerd20 | August 23, 2008 2:46 AM | Report abuse

Anyone that doesn't know how smart Biden is check out his debate clips!

Biden rocks!!!

Dartmouth
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9lpiDzeQcI

MSNBC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuOkXgZqofA

Posted by: Chris Stewart | August 23, 2008 2:45 AM | Report abuse

Text message will read "Sorry."

Posted by: Sorry | August 23, 2008 2:45 AM | Report abuse

Obama-Biden-NoWomenInvitedToTheParty '08.

Posted by: UM | August 23, 2008 2:44 AM | Report abuse

Is Obama kidding?! These two don't agree on anything, especially on Iraq. Not WRIGHT for America says Obama should forget about debating McCain and instead debate his running mate. Not a bad idea!
http://www.notwrightforamerica.com

Posted by: Yellow Jackett | August 23, 2008 2:44 AM | Report abuse

Herbert-McCain is choosing the brilliant, telegenic, hugely experienced in both politics AND the business world Mitt Romney, who has 5 children with his high school sweetheart who has multiple sclerosis-AND he speaks fluent French-that's my candidate for VP, and maybe president one of these days!

Posted by: spring rain | August 23, 2008 2:43 AM | Report abuse

I meant IBS. That is my gaff, fire your broadsides GOP operatives.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2008 2:43 AM | Report abuse

Networks and BBC are calling it for Bayh now. You heard it here first!

Posted by: midwest | August 23, 2008 2:42 AM | Report abuse

BOB-

At least Obama knows HOW to send an email. McCain will now doubt inform his supporter with a quill and inkwell.

Posted by: McCain's Done | August 23, 2008 2:41 AM | Report abuse

Women for McCain,

Hillary is not and never was the best chance at a woman President. Have you forgotten that she started her bid with 48% of the nation against her?

Sebelius will be the first woman President. That is who I wish Obama had picked the most, but she can't deliver Kansas.

Posted by: Chris Stewart | August 23, 2008 2:33 AM

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Yeah, after 8 years of Obama presidency, the country will be ready for a 68 year old woman (which is what Sebelius would be) of negligible national profile against a hungry republican party. Dude, whatever you do, don't get into politics. Your instincts and intellect ain't that good.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2008 2:41 AM | Report abuse

Now the race begins, Biden get em!!!!!!!!!!!

All You fake christians/republicans could scream all you want but, be scared of Biden, LOL

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2008 2:41 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Kevin | August 23, 2008 2:36 AM

I am deeply disturbed that the Obama campaign promised its supporters that they would be the first to know about the VP choice via text message. Apparently it was a bunch of BS since all the news sites already have Biden as the VP.
I know this is a minor thing, but it is one lie too many. I am now a McCain supporter.

WOW Kevin,
You sound like Paris and Brittney, soooo superficial!!!!

Posted by: JAC | August 23, 2008 2:40 AM | Report abuse

biden typifies why american foreign policy has resulted in disaster: for instance, his simplemindedness is so deluded that he wants to break up iraq into three countries, as if washington had a say in iraq now that iran's in charge -- what will turn disaster into catastrophe is if mccain picks lieberman, thus turning the campaign into a contest to see which ticket speaks best for likud

Posted by: herbert-de-turbot | August 23, 2008 2:40 AM | Report abuse

I love how the GOP operatives flooded this comment section as soon as the article aired. Do you really think America will buy into your failed policies ?
McCain is beyond inept. The man thinks Pakistan and Iraq share a border, He does not know the difference between Sunni's and Shiite's, also thinks Iran is a threat when they are decades away from a respectable delivery system (ICBM etc), not too mention Israel will wipe Iran's delivery capabilities off the map with the technology we sold them at any serious escalation. What kind of adult does not know how many houses they own. Better changes those depends John. IRB is not a presidential quality...

Posted by: Jevan from CA | August 23, 2008 2:39 AM | Report abuse

Isn't this the same white male who stated, Senator Obama was articulate to be a black person? What a racist remark to say, because their are many blacks who can speak English well. Condi Rice, Colin Powell, Oprah, Dr. Dorothy Height, the late Congresswoman Barbara Jordan, etc.

I am not voting for Obama nor John McCain. Both these idiots will open up our borders and let Mexico, Central-South American citizens continue to flood our country. Illegal immigration is the most important issue to me, because I live in this madness daily.

Posted by: Black Independent | August 23, 2008 2:39 AM | Report abuse

I hope McCain wins and goes two terms, not because I like him, only because America needs at least another 8 years of failed GOP foreign policy and it's consequences to fully understand the error of their ways. After that the divisiveness of the voting public will end.

By the way, if anyone else posts in all capital letters, you're going to get such a pinch!

Posted by: Steve Y | August 23, 2008 2:39 AM | Report abuse

For "grace" and all the other phonies planting their trash here:

I can tell by the desperate tone of the usual Rethuglican plants on this site, that their slimy bosses are worried sick that Senator Obama picked the best person to be his Vice President.

All these phony impostors who say they would have voted for him, if only he had picked x, y,or z are just paid liars.

Joe Biden is an honorable, decent, intelligent man, and makes Dick Cheney look like Mortimer Snerd.

Get over yourselves, haters. Your lies will not work this time. Bomber McCain is not going to fool anyone this time. We are not his "Friends."

Now if the poor delusional guy can just remember how to get back to one of his wife's many "homes".
I do worry about him.

Not this time.

Posted by: Alexis | August 23, 2008 2:39 AM | Report abuse

Igiveup,

I am assuming you were not serious. You couldn't be?

Obama rise has been nothing short of amazing, but also entirely dependent on his connection with long time friends like Dick Durbin.

But let's talk about stabbing people in the back. McCain dogged his first wife so badly that Nancy Reagan is uncomfortable endorsing him to this day!

But let's talk about what you should actually vote on... issues. Obama and Hillary then McCain.
If you actually care about the things Hillary said, your vote and participation would be a no brainer.

Finally because that stuff doesn't matter to you, let's talk about the future of your candidate. If Obama wins, he will likely appoint Hillary to the Supreme Court! If McCain wins, she will spend 8 years in the Senate and a give book tours.

---------------

Finally, can we stop talking about Hillary during Obama's moment. Biden is the smartest democrat alive (behind Al Gore). Obama made an excellent choice.

Posted by: Chris Stewart | August 23, 2008 2:39 AM | Report abuse

PS
I wonder if Biden is going to admit that the "surge" has been a success?

Obama and Biden. Tweedle dee and Tweedle dumb.

Posted by: zqll | August 23, 2008 2:39 AM | Report abuse

I will remain forever faithful and proud of the Clintons and all they have done for the American people through the years. I will remain forever equally disgusted with some of the Obama supporters who trashed the Clintons with such venomous disrespect. Aside from all of that I am happy to say as a staunch supporter of Hillary Clinton, always, with Obama's choice of Joe Biden I will get fully on board with the Obama campaign and do everything I can to help him win.

I strongly urge all of my fellow Hillary supporters to please put aside your anger and do the same, McCain will destroy what is left of America. Just take a break from the infighting and listen to what Obama has to say. It's pretty good stuff and very much in line with what Hillary believes in and would have done as President herself. We need this more than some of you may think. America is falling. Obama is the only hope there is and with Biden's help things will get a whole lot more hopeful.

Posted by: Hillary 08 | August 23, 2008 2:39 AM | Report abuse

I'm not an American, wish i was...

Please Americans...Choose Obama..NO MATTER WHAT...If you choose..McCain..There will be world War 3..

Republicans are picking fight with Russians now on Georgia and siding with Georgians who first invaded ossetia.

Republicans are trying to corner off Russians with missile defense treaty with poland ..Russia will retaliate

Your Karma and vote will count the destiny of this planet earth....Americans are god gifts on earth...please use your vote wisely

Posted by: Joe | August 23, 2008 2:38 AM | Report abuse

Not a good choice, but at least it's not Hillary.

Spineless DLC vermin.... Could have done much better. But I'll vote for the ticket since he had the class to bypass Clinton.

Posted by: captainkona | August 23, 2008 2:38 AM | Report abuse

Isn't this the same white male who stated, Senator Obama was articulate to be a black person? What a racist remark to say, because they are many blacks who can speak English well. Condi Rice, Colin Powell, Oprah, Dr. Dorothy Height, the late Congresswoman Barbara Jordan, etc.

I am not voting for Obama nor John McCain. Both these idiots will open up our borders and let Mexico, Central-South American citizens continue to flood our country. Illegal immigration is the most important issue to me, because I live in this madness daily.

Posted by: Black Independent | August 23, 2008 2:38 AM | Report abuse

Uh, David Young-warrior? Who-BIDEN? A 65 YEAR OLD PROFESSIONAL SENATOR WHO'S NEVER BEEN OUT OF HIS SENATOR SEAT HIS WHOLE LIFE AND WAS CAUGHT OUT BEING A PLAGIARIZER IS A...WARRIOR?

YEAH, THAT'S SOME WARRIOR YOU GOT THERE, GIVE HIM SOME GERITOL WHILE YOU'RE AT IT!

Posted by: SPRING RAIN | August 23, 2008 2:38 AM | Report abuse

big mistake

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2008 2:38 AM | Report abuse

Obama is unqualified and inexperienced to be US president. By picking a VP who is just as liberal with some experience does NOT make Obama experience as a president. The VP is NOT the decision maker but the president. Also both Obama and Biden among other things, have been accused of plagiarism (In 1988 Biden was charged of plagiarism in a stump speech. During the democratic primary this year Obama was also charged of plagiarism in his speech). America cannot afford to elect this caliber of leaders.

Posted by: Jimmy | August 23, 2008 2:37 AM | Report abuse

Hey Chris,
I'm serious...I just read your article on Biden as Obama's VP pick.Excellent.
Serious people know serious facts.I appreciate those who know what's important when it's important to accept the facts.Good job,guy.

Posted by: HoosierDaddy | August 23, 2008 2:37 AM | Report abuse

Hey Igiveup, why don't you shut the f@@k up, and join your good friends a the Republican circle jerk down the block.

Posted by: Joe Skipper | August 23, 2008 2:37 AM | Report abuse

I bought the hype. I believed in Obama when he talked about change. I thought "hey the guy isn't that experienced, but maybe that's what we need in a president, I mean the "experienced" ones weren't exactly knocking my socks off" So I had every intention of staying with Obama. Him picking a tired old man that's been in the political machines for many years, means it was all lip service. I understand why he did it, I understand the rationale behind it, but how can the man preach change, when he's fallen in line, and is now doing the Washington 2 step?

Posted by: Sam A. | August 23, 2008 2:37 AM | Report abuse

I hate when one person tries to speak for an entire group. I am catholic. Obama didn't say he wants to murder babies, he aims to keep abortions down to a point where that issue doesn't come up as often. Stopping it as its source. And Biden will most likely voicd his opinions on that. Great pick Obama! Obama and Biden '08!

Posted by: Catholicf4obama | August 23, 2008 2:37 AM | Report abuse

This is very boring. I don't see how this helps Obama. I'm a life-long dem, and this has the all-too familiar feeling of a campaign on the way down, down, down... I can only hope I'm wrong, but this is the opposite of exciting.

Posted by: Tim | August 23, 2008 2:37 AM | Report abuse

Biden was the one person I was really hoping Obama would not choose. Biden's "foreign policy experience" may be trumped by something far more important: the voter's personality gut check. This guy has the personality of a salesman and I think it may turn voters off to the ticket. Also, Obama's refreshing, forward looking message is a bit strained by choosing a VP who clearly represents the old guard of Democratic Party Politics.

Posted by: Mark | August 23, 2008 2:37 AM | Report abuse

Slow Joe? The Dems are putting up two doctors of talkology? This is hillarious!

Posted by: Jake | August 23, 2008 2:36 AM | Report abuse

Now we wait to see who Senator will pick to counter Senator Biden!!

Senator McCain will be 72 years old in a couple of day so he has to pick someone to carry on when they carry him out.

I'm still betting Senator McCain will find a reason to decline the nomination. The neo-con 's will be looking to escalate (sorry surge)the Georgia incident after Putin sucker punched cheney/bush.

Posted by: JAC | August 23, 2008 2:36 AM | Report abuse

I am deeply disturbed that the Obama campaign promised its supporters that they would be the first to know about the VP choice via text message. Apparently it was a bunch of BS since all the news sites already have Biden as the VP.

I know this is a minor thing, but it is one lie too many. I am now a McCain supporter.

Posted by: Kevin | August 23, 2008 2:36 AM | Report abuse

The best choice, the most candid seasoned authentic and qualified to advise Obama on foreign affairs, defense matters, along with others who will be advisors I am sure including Sam Nunn, Colin Powell, Al Gore and all the VP short listers. Now we just have to get through the egocentric Clintons as they star in their own show at the Convention. And then McCain as he counts his houses over and over and wonders why the people with bad mortgages should get help.

Posted by: Gaias Child | August 23, 2008 2:36 AM | Report abuse


THIS IS FUNNY!

OBAMA'S CAMPAIGN ASKED FOR E-MAIL ADDRESSES OF ALL HIS SUPPORTERS SO THAT THEY COULD BE TEXT MESSAGED WHEN THE VP WAS DECIDED.

WELL.. IT APPEARS THAT THE VP HAS BEEN ANNOUNCED.. >>> AND <<< BARAK OBAMA NOW HAS A WHOLE SH*TLOAD OF E-MAIL ADDRESSES THAT HE CAN START USING TO BEG FOR MONEY.. EMAIL ADDRESSES HE CAN SELL TO OTHER ORGANIZATIONS.... WHATEVER...

BARAK OBAMA JUST TOOK HIS SUPPORTERS ON YET ANOTHER RIDE!!!

LOL!

ALL HAIL DRAMA QUEEN OBAMA KING!

Posted by: BOB | August 23, 2008 2:35 AM | Report abuse

The Democratic Party, the Party that keeps on giving.

From the NYTimes, January 2007:
"Opening a hearing Jan. 11, the morning after Bush announced his plan to send an additional 21,500 troops to Iraq, Biden looked directly at Rice, who was waiting to testify, and dismissed the plan in scathing terms: “ I believe the president’s strategy is not a solution, Secretary Rice. I believe it’s a tragic mistake.”"

Where do the Dimos get these guys?

Posted by: zqll | August 23, 2008 2:35 AM | Report abuse


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Obama Picks Biden as V.P.


Barack Obama confers with Sen. Joe Biden (D-Del.) during a hearing of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, which Biden chairs.

Barack Obama has chosen Delaware Sen. Joe Biden as his vice presidential running mate, a pick designed to shore up the Illinois senator's foreign policy credentials in advance of the November election against John McCain.

Biden's selection was confirmed by a Democratic source after an evening of speculation that centered on the Delaware senator when it was reported that the other top contenders were no longer under consideration. Biden had been considered the frontrunner for the job in recent weeks -- a position confirmed by a last-minute, unscheduled trip last weekend to meet with the president of Georgia.

News of the pick was reported in advance of the Obama campaign's planned Saturday announcement to supporters via email and text message.

Biden was first elected to the Senate in 1972 at the age of 29. A month after his election, his wife and daughter were killed in a car accident. Biden has not been seriously challenged since that first election -- a reflection of both the Democratic roots of the state and Biden's skillfulness as a politician.

Long rumored as a candidate for national office, Biden launched a presidential bid in 1987 that was gaining traction until a video was leaked to the press that showed striking similarities between a speech by Biden and an address by British Labour Party politician Neil Kinnock. Biden sought to beat back the controversy but subsequent allegations about plagiarism and resume inflation in law school forced him from the contest.

Biden was subsequently stricken in early 1988 by a brain aneurysm from which he recovered fully. Once his health improved, Biden threw himself back into the day to day working of the Senate where he chaired the high profile Judiciary Committee from 1987 until 1995. In that role, he chaired the controversial Supreme Court confirmation hearings of Robert Bork and Clarence Thomas. Biden has also served several stints as the chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, a perch from which he has emerged as one of the leading voices in the Democratic Party on foreign policy matters.

Two decades after his first bid for president, Biden launched a second candidacy in 2007. He was never considered anything more than a longshot due to the presence of both Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton in the contest but acquitted himself well in the eyes of the Democratic establishment. Biden proved that the charisma that had recommended him as a rising star in the 1980s was still very much part of his political portfolio; he also excelled in the myriad debates held among the Democratic aspirants during the primary season.

For Obama, the Biden pick is a sign that he and his campaign believe that foreign policy matters will be front and center in the fall election. Biden brings the Democratic ticket immediate gravitas on issues ranging from the war in Iraq to the ongoing conflict between Russia and Georgia.

McCain has made no secret that he believes Obama's experience in public life ill suits him to handle the complex world situation into which the next president will immediately step. Biden, a serious politician with a far deeper resume than Obama, will complicate -- if not entirely blunt -- Republican attacks on the Illinois senator's readiness for office.

We'll have far more about the pick both on The Fix and the washingtonpost.com site more generally throughout the day. In the meantime, make sure to check out the case for and case against Biden as vice president we made in this space. They should provide a blueprint for how Democrats and Republicans will try to define the Delaware senator in the coming weeks and months.

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gosh, how exciting......obama/biden....almost as exciting as dukakis/bentsen

Posted by: spring rain | August 23, 2008 2:15 AM

If Obama really wanted to win.. He would have picked the person who won 18 million votes. The person that people love especially in her adoptive state of New York. This shows that Obama can't suck his pride and make the best choice for america. Obama will have no one but to blame Himself after he loses to McCain. This is a year when democratics should win no matter what. The democrats have throwned that away. I wonder how he is going to heal the democratic party when he doesn't have the person who he needs the most at his side?? This a slap on Hillary's supporters and most now will vote McCain. Thanks for the real changed Obama. Hope you like coming back to the senate. When you could have been President.

Posted by: Ivan | August 23, 2008 2:15 AM

I'm a moderate in suburban Cleveland (OH). Until this announcement, I was leaning McCain, mostly because I will never put trust in an untested candidate (see Bush). Adding Biden to Obama has me leaning in a new direction. I still don't like Obama's healthcare plan. I also worry about the deficit and his pandering to the environmental lobby. But I'm even more concerned about foreign policy. And I really like Biden on that. If McCain picks any candidate that preaches God before policy, it's a no brainer. I'm off to Obamaland...

Posted by: feelingbetterinohio | August 23, 2008 2:15 AM

So basically Obama has been shoving the word "Change" in our faces for over a year and a half and now he picks a guy who has been in the Senate since his 20's and now he's in his 60's.....um.....how is this change fom old Washington? I really don't get Obama anymore. What is his message? How is this change from old Washington? It keeps changing every day!!! He keeps changing everyday!!

Posted by: yeah yeah | August 23, 2008 2:14 AM

This is great!

Obama, no one can stop him and Biden.

Posted by: johng | August 23, 2008 2:14 AM

For those Hillary supports that say they will vote for McCain, well, go ahead. It won't make any difference. McCain is the elitist who's ambitions are only to be president. It is time for a complete change and if you would prefer another Bush administration (just look at the company he keeps) then be my guest and vote for it.

Posted by: hmmmmmer | August 23, 2008 2:12 AM

McCain has just won the election. What an elitist moron Obama is.

Posted by: fjcastro | August 23, 2008 2:12 AM

Bahama for OBAMA 100%
RESTORE OLD GLORY.

Joe Biden A great Choice*
I Still support Obama, the Clintons and the DNC.

UNITE! America...
I, SAY YOU MUST GETUP!STAND UP! ONE MORE TIME, STAND UP FOR YOU RIGHTS! NEVER GIVE UP THE FIGHT, CUS, I WILL NEVER GIVE UP THE FIGHT! DONT GIVE UP THE FIGHT!
CHANGE WE CAN DO IT!

Ian
Nassau

THE PEOPLE OF THE FREE WORLD.
THE COMMONWEALTH OF THE BAHAMAS

Posted by: Ian | August 23, 2008 2:11 AM

Republicans: Bend over and kiss your butts goodbye. The Dems have you nuked this season.

Save your junk for 8 years. You should be able to find some new Roves and Limbaughs by then. Who knows? Maybe another B actor will emerge for you. Good luck.

Posted by: Madman | August 23, 2008 2:11 AM

Wow a longwinded veteran of the senate what a choice. Well Hello Republicans again what is it with this democratic party? All this hype about racism against obama when really it has always been against women. Once again the old boys club has rejected any woman I am not meaning Hilary, they must be to scared that a woman might do alright.

Biden to me is an awful choice he never shuts up and when he is done has said nothing. he loves to hear himself.

Obama though must be running scared for biden to be his pick.

I wish the dems would get a backbone and some brains maybe next election.

Posted by: sandra | August 23, 2008 2:10 AM

This is what the Obama campaign and MSM have been hyping 24/7?

As an avid Obama supporter for over a yr, my reaction is: Joe Biden is a very uninspired, mediocre choice for VP. He is as much a part of the U.S. mainstream foreign policy establishment as the GOP's Richard Lugar and John Warner. Biden not only swallowed all of that neo-con agit-prop fantasies that Bush/Cheney and the Republican Congress pushed in 2002 and 2003 -- he was a solid supporter of the 3/4 of a trillion dollar US war in Iraq until 2007 -- when he decided to run for the Democratic Party presidential nomination -- and suddenly became anti-Iraq war.

What has happened to Barrack Obama and his campaign for President? Not only is this a huge deflation of the momentum that carried him to his winning the Democratic primary campaign -- but it offers the McSame and the Bush/Cheney/Rove GOP the chance to ridicule Obama for the fact that even HE realizes his shortcomings in foreign and defense policies.

Instead of focusing on the desperate desire of 50+ percent of the American public for dramatic change -- and for re-ordering USG priorities to the American economy and American needs -- once again, the Democrats have allowed the Republicans to distract the US electorate with all of this garbage about how American security interests are threatened.

American national interests are threatened by whom? The Russians in Georgia? the radical Sunnis and Shiites in the Arab Mid-east? A thousand yr war in Afghanistan pitting Western Caucasian military force against Moslem fighters? The Iranians and their over-hyped obsession with nuclear technology? These are the dire threats that the neo-cons, their right-wing Republican allies, the Lieberman Democrats, the US foreign policy community -- and the MSM all claim to be threatening American national interests??

All the while, the US economy and US economic/social future gets flushed down the toilet, and the US Constitution gets trashed.

Obama and the Democrats were supposed to reverse all of that -- not re-inforce it.

This is going to act as a huge wet blanket among Democratic Party supporters in generating any surge of support for Obama and the Democratic ticket.

Posted by: LesG | August 23, 2008 2:10 AM

McCain 2008
Hillary 2012
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Posted by: grace | August 23, 2008 2:06 AM

Even pretending the Dems would elect Hillary after her supporters tried to give away the 2008 election, do you know what the Supreme Court would look like after 4 years of McCain? Try using your brain, instead of whatever it is you're thinking with.

Posted by: Aleks | August 23, 2008 2:09 AM

My prediction on how Republicans will attack the democratic ticket: judges & abortion.

Obama already has an incredibly pro-abortion record and his recent comments at Rick Warren's forum didn't help much.

Biden was the chair of the judiciary committee during the Robert Bork hearings. Nuff Said.

Republicans now have a clear wedge issue to start pounding on.

I'm an Obama supporter. Being pro-life, I've simply decided to bite the bullet on the abortion issue in this campaign, but the Biden pick makes it sting that much more. Tim Kaine, who at least seems to understand that there are legitimate rights on both side of this issue, would have been a little easier to stomach.

Posted by: DT | August 23, 2008 2:08 AM

well this confirms that I'm definitely not voting for Obama. It's like Obama was searching for a teacher rather than an assistant. I want a President...not an intern.

Posted by: postit | August 23, 2008 2:08 AM

Well, it's taken 20 year but Biden FINALLY found a way to make it onto a Presidential ticket.

Posted by: JackESpratt | August 23, 2008 2:07 AM

Biden is the REAL straight talk express!
Posted by: Bill | August 23, 2008 2:00 AM
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erm, I think LONG talk express is more like it, mate.
Posted by: Osama-Binladen 08 | August 23, 2008 2:03 AM


Sadly, it seems the terrorist has won the thread.

Posted by: Aleks | August 23, 2008 2:06 AM

Obama and Biden. Incredible fiasco.

Obama is sure to lose now. They will both be back in the Senate in November.

I am a Hillary supporter voting for McCain in 2008 along with the other 20 million Clinton supporters.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

McCain 2008
Hillary 2012

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Posted by: grace | August 23, 2008 2:06 AM

Game over GOP. He made the right choice. 16 years of Dems.

Posted by: sebsosman | August 23, 2008 2:01 AM

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Biden would be older than McCain is now after 8 years, you moron.

Posted by: Rotten choice | August 23, 2008 2:06 AM

Obama to women: Go to hell. What are you gonna do? Vote for the pro-lifers? Then, shut up and sit down.
Posted by: Obama-Biden | August 23, 2008 1:59 AM

Because naturally all women see their fate tied to Hillary's quest for the White House. If Obama doesn't want the Republicans running video of his own VP pick saying McCain would be a better president, well then he's obviously a misogynist.

Posted by: Aleks | August 23, 2008 2:05 AM

Joe Biden is the best of the candidates for VP.

Posted by: lmurphy006 | August 23, 2008 2:05 AM

The republicans are in deep trouble. McCain will now pick Romney who everyone knows he can't stand. Romney is a one-trick pony and a Mormon to boot. The evangelicals will stay home. Obama wins.

Posted by: ObamaBiden08 | August 23, 2008 2:04 AM

This is an excellent choice. Joe Biden is a man of the people and runs rings around John McCain on foreign policy. I'm very pleased.

Posted by: Mary | August 23, 2008 2:04 AM


Biden is the REAL straight talk express!

Posted by: Bill | August 23, 2008 2:00 AM

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erm, I think LONG talk express is more like it, mate.

Posted by: Osama-Binladen 08 | August 23, 2008 2:03 AM

Democrats: Thank your lucky stars it wasn't Bayh. He has more skeletons than the Munsters.

Posted by: Madman | August 23, 2008 2:02 AM

Game over GOP. He made the right choice. 16 years of Dems.


Posted by: sebsosman | August 23, 2008 2:01 AM

Biden is the REAL straight talk express!

Posted by: Bill | August 23, 2008 2:00 AM

And all his followers have eaten heartily from his droppings. Only way to explain all the idiots here saying they're bummed with the pick and will vote for McCain. Only a complete retard will vote for McBush. And of course, such retards are the Nazi stooges that gobble up the fecal matter pooped out by that fat pill popping pig.

Posted by: Looks Like Rush Took A Dump | August 23, 2008 2:00 AM

Obama to women: Go to hell. What are you gonna do? Vote for the pro-lifers? Then, shut up and sit down.

Posted by: Obama-Biden | August 23, 2008 1:59 AM

McCain picks Hillary Clinton as VP.

Posted by: Bill | August 23, 2008 1:58 AM

I dunno if it was worthwhile for the estimable Chris Cillizza or me to be up so late at night.

I don't know that Biden's going to be any better than Obama at the modern sort of candidate and presidential rhetoric that Elvin Linn called "barking idiotically through endless night". His book is "The Anti-intellectual Presidency: the decline of presidential rhetoric from Washington to George W. Bush". Charles M. Blow expresses the same thoughts at the NY Times this morning. Kinsley's column is a bit related. I've supported Obama's campaign. I was gratified to see him nominated. But right now, I'd just as soon see Sen. Clinton stage and uprising and seize the nomination next week.

Posted by: Dave [from the Achenboodle] | August 23, 2008 1:57 AM

Dang, might as well give the south and west back to France and Mexico, cause Biden can’t carry even carry feather for us. Say it ain’t so, Barack.
Change we can believe in, my duff!
Latinos for Richardson and change.

Posted by: JC | August 23, 2008 1:57 AM

Bill Richardson, John Edwards, Tim Kaine, Claire McCaskill, Kathleen Siebilus - ha ha ha ha ha - hope you enjoyed the ride on the bus. Hey, is the underside clean?

Posted by: UM | August 23, 2008 1:57 AM

Good choice, but not a game-changer, I can only hope that more Dems show up in Nov, still looks more possible than not. It out of my hands now and in the hands of Diebold.

Posted by: Biden God-like and Angelically Pure | August 23, 2008 1:55 AM

Changing the face of Washington huh a-hole? With one of the longest serving Democratic Senators huh?


You lost me. McCain/Romney 08. Our economy is more important than your effing ego!!!

Posted by: TDown | August 23, 2008 1:53 AM


If you vote McCain on economics you're just an idiot. McCain will supply side things to the degree Bush did and our country will collapse.

Posted by: Anon | August 23, 2008 2:35 AM | Report abuse

Obama/Bi den vs.
Osama BinLaden


Whats in the name? ;).

p.s. I am a democrat - just taking a less serious approach :).

Posted by: LifeIsFun | August 23, 2008 2:34 AM | Report abuse

Looks like he will do anything to win and cross anyone for that matter.
I was watching on CNN Obamas life story...WOW this guy came up in politics by literally back stabbing every person that helped him. He is about as scary as Bush at this point. Can we still pick Hillary please!!! If not I'm going with McCain.

Posted by: IgiveUp | August 23, 2008 2:34 AM | Report abuse

Women for McCain,

Hillary is not and never was the best chance at a woman President. Have you forgotten that she started her bid with 48% of the nation against her?

Sebelius will be the first woman President. That is who I wish Obama had picked the most, but she can't deliver Kansas.

Heck, I love Obama's message. I fit his demographic. But Sebelius would get my vote any day of the week.

So don't hinge the hope of a female President on Hillary Clinton. That is false, silly, and way overly pessimistic.

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Also, you should congratulate Obama and Biden--- then next President and Vice President of the USA.

Posted by: Chris Stewart | August 23, 2008 2:33 AM | Report abuse

Looks like he will do anything to win and cross anyone for that matter.
I was watching on CNN Obamas life story...WOW this guy came up in politics by literally back stabbing every person that helped him. He is about as scary as Bush at this point. Can we still pick Hillary please!!! If not I'm going with McCain at this point.

Posted by: IgiveUP | August 23, 2008 2:32 AM | Report abuse

Bottom line is: we needed a warrior. Now we got one. Let's get it on.

Posted by: David Young | August 23, 2008 2:32 AM | Report abuse

...Since the republicans keep trying to hand the dems (and obama) the election, why do they keep playing hot potato? i feel like i'm watching tennis...i dont want it, you take it. i dont want it, you take it.

seriously...300M people, and these two are the best we can do?

can i just surrender now, and stop having football season interrupted? at least they admit they're only it for the money...

Posted by: pi$$ed off again! | August 23, 2008 2:31 AM | Report abuse

God ... Joe Biden? Maybe he will bow out for the good of the party. I recently donated $250 to the Obama campaign. What a waste. We are going to lose with lame thinking like this.

Posted by: Joe Skipper | August 23, 2008 2:31 AM | Report abuse

Seattle--

I highly suggest you vote for Bob Barr or write in Ron Paul.

Posted by: McCain's Done | August 23, 2008 2:31 AM | Report abuse

BREAKING NEWS ON John McCain's VP pick.

I was chatting with J-Mac a few minutes ago, and he told me that he's down to three finalists:

1. Margaret Thatcher. Why? She has a LOT of experience, and he looks young compared to her.

2. Paris Hilton. Why? With Paris as VP, nobody will ever look at or listen to the opposition. They'll be looking at her.

3. Michael Jackson. Win back the black vote. Keep the white vote. Maybe add some of the woman vote. And if we can't get people back on the moon, at least we can do the moonwalk.

Just thought you'd like to know,
Yuri

P.S. J-Mac is thinking he might have all THREE as VP. Corporations have more than one VP, why not the US of A?

Posted by: Yurfulla | August 23, 2008 2:31 AM | Report abuse

zQ wrote:

"I don't know. Two plagarists on the same ticket doesn't provide the balance it needs. The question will arise: Is Biden stealing Obama's ideas or is Obama stealing Biden's ideas. Or do they have any original ideas on their own?
We'll see."

OH MY GOD I'M LAUGHING AGAIN! FUNNY!

Posted by: SPRING RAIN | August 23, 2008 2:29 AM | Report abuse

Anyone else sick of bipartisanship now? This year is the perfect time for a third party to come out of the corner and work for US!

Point me to a candidate who ISN'T a professional politician and I'll vote for that person. Problem with Washington: it's run by professional politicians. This is the charm of America... ANYONE can run for president (I mean, look who we've got in there now!) How about we get someone in charge who hasn't spent most of their lifetime in politics.

I think both major parties have done enough to screw this country into the ground. Let's get some fresh blood in power that will really get this country back to the way it used to be.

Posted by: Seattle | August 23, 2008 2:28 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: McCain's Through | August 23, 2008 2:27 AM | Report abuse

I am smiling thinking about how Biden is going to eat McCain butt on the issues.

Maybe this will stop the Repub party from going negative, because Biden has no problem going there (and he will crawl over Obama to do it :)


Obama and Biden
Obama and Biden
Obama and Biden
Obama and Biden
Obama and Biden

Has a great ring to it. In fact, one more time

Obama and Biden 2008

Posted by: Chris Stewart | August 23, 2008 2:27 AM | Report abuse

Biden was the only candidate that I suppported financially because, although I knew he would never be president, I wanted his voice in the debates for as long as possible. In those debates (where he received very little air time) he answered all questions directly and with knowledge as if he were the professor of every major issue. Yes, he is not always politically correct, but that's simply because the truth never is.

Posted by: threekingsblog.com | August 23, 2008 2:27 AM | Report abuse

Say it ain't so, Joe!

I think Obama thinks he can benefit from Biden's being a Roman Catholic to somehow reassure us Catholics that its OK to vote for this ultra-lefty who thinks its OK to murder even babies that SURVIVE an abortion.

I like Joe Biden, but I've lost a lot of respect for him for attaching himself to this radical young lefty punk. Biden would be better off refusing the offer and running himself, again, in 2012.

Posted by: PaulNYC | August 23, 2008 2:26 AM | Report abuse

Obama to women: Go to hell. What are you gonna do? Vote for the pro-lifers? Then, shut up and sit down.
Posted by: Obama-Biden | August 23, 2008 1:59 AM

Because naturally all women see their fate tied to Hillary's quest for the White House. If Obama doesn't want the Republicans running video of his own VP pick saying McCain would be a better president, well then he's obviously a misogynist.

Posted by: Aleks | August 23, 2008 2:05 AM
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Wait till you find out all the things Biden said about Obama during the primaries. But, of course, Biden can be excused for flatly saying that Obama is not ready to be the President of US, that we cannot afford to have an on the job training, etc. etc. Biden can be excused because he is a man or he is a straight-shooter or, you know, what's a little testosterone between men, eh?

It's pretty likely now that there won't be a woman candidate for, maybe, the next 24 years. 8 years of Obama + 8 years of Biden + 8 years of Republicans.

Nice.

Even if Biden decides not to run, it will be too late for Hillary. Where is another woman who can have the clout to not only get the Democratic nomination but the might to defeat the Republicans. Hillary was our best bet. Our only hope now is if Obama loses. Hillary can definitely defeat McCain in 2012.

Posted by: Women for McCain. | August 23, 2008 2:26 AM | Report abuse

In classic McCain style, the presses were not yet dry from the Sen. Biden announcement when McCain and his honchos were out with their slash and burn comments. McCain knows only one way to campaign and that is to vilify your opponents and may the truth be damned. I live in Arizona and have seen the guy do this even when he had just token opposition as he has had the past three elections. Never mind that you do not have any concrete plans for this country, just malign your opponent, call him or her anything except a Christian and that's how he got elected all those times. So if you're Obama or Biden, don't expect anything else from this hothead. That's how he works and I hope for the sake of our Country that he does not win this thing.

Posted by: Opa2 | August 23, 2008 2:26 AM | Report abuse

RR-YOU'RE KIDDING AREN'T YOU? YOU SERIOUSLY THINK OBAMA WOULD PUT HILLARY CLINTON IN A CABINET POST? UH, DON'T COUNT ON THAT!

AND THERE ARE MILLIONS OF US DEMS. WHO WOULDN'T BE CAUGHT DEAD VOTING FOR THIS LOSER LOSER LOSER TICKET! I WANT ROMNEY! I'LL TAKE MCSAME FOR 4 YEARS ALSO! BUT THIS DUKAKIS/BENTSEN RERUN AIN'T GOING NOWHERE! IT WAS A NON-STARTER FROM THE GET-GO!

Posted by: SPRING RAIN | August 23, 2008 2:26 AM | Report abuse

Grace you are not an idiot. I would not vote for Obama either and it has nothing to do with growing up it is to do with choice and whether I want Obama and the answer to that is simply NO. Who the idiots are, are the old fools in the dem party who were adamant no woman would in the nomination. Who the idiots are, are the ones who decided even with obamas total lack of experience that he was more suitable when in reality had a white man ran against him for the nomination these same people would never of voted for Obama. So who needs to Grow UP I wonder. Certainly not Grace. In 2008 women are allowed to vote for whom they want and it is undemocratic to call a woman an idiot because she won't vote for the person that was underhandedly given the nomination. It is time for the men to grow up who are so threatened by women.

Posted by: sandra | August 23, 2008 2:26 AM | Report abuse

Biden may actually attract some republicans away from McCain. Most republicans have been unhappy that McCain was the nominee.

Posted by: Go Biden | August 23, 2008 2:25 AM | Report abuse

I don't know. Two plagarists on the same ticket doesn't provide the balance it needs. The question will arise: Is Biden stealing Obama's ideas or is Obama stealing Biden's ideas. Or do they have any original ideas on their own?
We'll see.

Posted by: zqll | August 23, 2008 2:25 AM | Report abuse

1. Hillary supporters may not vote--- they will not vote for McCain. I can understand their disappointment.

However, did you really want your candidate to linger in the #2 spot? Seriously, Hillary should be a supreme court justice not a member of Barack's cabinet.

2. Biden is a great pick! He was always the smartest of the candidates running for President. Paired with Obama they are two regular guys that are going to LEAD the country into a new era.

Obama 2008.... scratch that.... Obama and Biden 2008.

Posted by: Chris Stewart | August 23, 2008 2:25 AM | Report abuse

who the hell is biden...really

Posted by: jake | August 23, 2008 2:25 AM | Report abuse

Good pick. Biden is a stud.

McBush is going down. No more war-mongering Republicans in the White House.

And not a minute too soon. There has been so much damage to our country and the world.

Posted by: Friends don't let friends vote Republican | August 23, 2008 2:24 AM | Report abuse

Great choice. With Sen. Biden, we have the best possible combination of change and experience. Plus, Biden will not back down to the Republicans - and he's shown he can control his long-windedness. I think he'll appeal to "regular" voters in a way Obama doesn't, but unlike the current "president we'd like to have a beer with" Biden is thoughtful and smart.

Posted by: _Pamela | August 23, 2008 2:23 AM | Report abuse

Can we outlaw Clinton supporters here please. Your candidate lost. Your annoying and for Gods sake can't you for once let Obama keep his damned headline, even if it wasn't released when he planned.

Posted by: Nooobian | August 23, 2008 2:23 AM | Report abuse

Any Hillary supporter--and any Democrat in genreal--who won't vote for Obama/Biden is very much failing to see the forest for the trees.

First of all, it's all-but-certain that Hillary will have a very important cabinet post in an Obama administration (I place my bet on HEW--think hard about this, Hillary supporters).

Second, all Democrats need to understand that Obama desperately needs everything Biden brings to the ticket--foreign policy expertise, elder-statesman status, bipartisan respect, and a totally "NO B.S." attitude when it comes to responding to Republican attacks.

Third, and most importantly: YOU DEFINITELY DO NOT WANT FOUR MORE YEARS OF WHAT WE'VE SUFFERED THROUGH OVER THE PAST EIGHT YEARS!!!!!

Posted by: Reverend Rock | August 23, 2008 2:23 AM | Report abuse

Oh, my God! This is SOooo Exciting! SOOoo Exciting! It was worth the wait.
Joe... Biden? Hasn't he ,like, been in the Senate forever? Change we can believe in? Didn't he vote FOR the WAR? Wasn't he FOR the surge? Didn't Ol' Joe ,like, say that Obama was too inexperienced? Didn't Joe say he would be PROUD to run on the same ticket as McCain??? Didn't Ol'Joe plagiarize a whole speech and have to quit a Presidential race in shame ,like, a hundred years ago? BUMMER!
But I still believe...I still Believe, BELIEVE IN THE ONE!

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2008 2:23 AM | Report abuse

Well, this will at least shore up that perennial swing state, Delaware.

Posted by: phantom republic | August 23, 2008 2:22 AM | Report abuse

McCain will win this election with this unelectable "dynamic" duo IN A LANDSLIDE FOLKS-THE PEOPLE OF MIDDLE AMERICA WILL NEVER VOTE FOR A OBAMA/BIDEN TICKET-BIDEN, WHO LIKES TO PRIDE HIMSELF ON HIS FOREIGN POLICY EXPERTISE-THAT'S THE BIGGEST LOAD OF BS HE'S BEEN ABLE TO SELL TO HIS CONSTITUENTS IN DELAWARE, BUT NOWHERE ELSE! HE'S ALMOST ALWAYS WRONG ON FOREIGN POLICY MATTERS-YOU'D THINK HE'D HAVE LEARNED SOMETHING IN THE LAST 30 YEARS ABOUT THE SUBJECT MATTER-BUT HE HASN'T! HE'S REALLY A FEW STEPS ABOVE A DOPE!

Posted by: SPRING RAIN | August 23, 2008 2:21 AM | Report abuse

Can't wait unti the debates where McCain will stumble big. He's not good when it comes to little things like Sunni and Shiate. He was a horrible student. That's your first clue he would be a disaster. He has to choose Romney now and the bible thumpers will stay home.

Posted by: McCain's Through | August 23, 2008 2:21 AM | Report abuse

Joe Biden? OMG. We deserveto lose again.

Posted by: Joe Skipper | August 23, 2008 2:20 AM | Report abuse

It should have been Luka Magnotta.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2008 2:20 AM | Report abuse

Obama is disclosing himself as a political animal who will do and say anything to get elected President. Biden is far from the worst Democrat around, but his notorious status as the ultimate Beltway insider surely disqualifies him as the person Obama needs to sell his "it's time for a change" story. As for Biden's foreign policy expertise, this is an "expert" who just flew to Georgia to pledge allegiance to a Georgian president who just two weeks ago launched a massive artillery assault on a Georgian provincial capitol populated by civilians whom Georgia claims as its own citizens. What are these jokers in Washington thinking?

Posted by: richard young | August 23, 2008 2:20 AM | Report abuse

This a slap on Hillary's supporters and most now will vote McCain.

Posted by: Ivan | August 23, 2008 2:15 AM

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See comments the about "Grace." Ditto for you.

Posted by: Ivan = Fool | August 23, 2008 2:20 AM | Report abuse

Well here is the Obama supporters big Change I am laughing hysterically. He can change about as much as you or I which is nothing. Obama's only change will be his bank account with the campaign donations that I wish they would call it what it is which is bribe monies.

If Biden is change then I don't know anymore but to all of you who bought his rhetoric please explain this pick.

His change requires just as bush did someone to hold his hand in the whitehouse.

Posted by: sandra | August 23, 2008 2:19 AM | Report abuse

I like it! A nice choice for a balanced ticket of youthful change and optimism with the wise expereince of an elder statesman. Although I'm disappointed for the early release of the name I'm happy with the choice. The GOP and McCain now face someone who knows there ways well and who will not mind punching them in their dirty mouths. Our ticket to repairing the Bush and GOP disaster is now on the track, go Obama Biden '08, throw the GOP out now!

Posted by: Mr. Bill | August 23, 2008 2:19 AM | Report abuse

The wrong choice. Poor timing. Poor presentation. This man was the man who had his own macaca moment about Indians in quickymarts in Delaware. This is infuriating. I think that Obama's plan is to piss off progressives every chance he gets.

Posted by: Noneya | August 23, 2008 2:19 AM | Report abuse

Hilarious and delicious all at once.

Biden as know it all Foghorn Leghorn to Obama as bdep bdep bdep Henery Hawk.

Great news for the Republicans and the republic.

Posted by: Mike | August 23, 2008 2:19 AM | Report abuse

Obama is disclosing himself as a political animal who will do and say anything to get elected President. Biden is far from the worst Democrat around, but his notorious status as the ultimate Beltway insider surely disqualifies him as the person Obama needs to sell his "it's time for a change" story. As for Biden's foreign policy expertise, this is an "expert" who just flew to Georgia to pledge allegiance to a Georgian president who just two weeks ago launched a massive artillery assault on a Georgian provincial capitol populated by civilians whom Georgia claims as its own citizens. What are these jokers in Washington thinking?

Posted by: richard young | August 23, 2008 2:18 AM | Report abuse

I am a Hillary supporter voting for McCain in 2008 along with the other 20 million Clinton supporters.

Posted by: grace | August 23, 2008 2:06 AM
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Grace, you are an idiot.

If you vote for McCain then you clearly weren't voting for Clinton to advance positions on issues that you believe in. Only an idiot would believe that John McCain's proposals are closer to Clinton's than Obama's.

Get over your bitterness and grow up. Or just become a Republican.

Posted by: Grace = Clueless, Bitter Woman | August 23, 2008 2:17 AM | Report abuse

VP choice doesn't matter that much. Biden is fine. He can be more of an attack dog than any other of the choices (Edwards was useless at that role in '04). He appeals more to the older generation, has foreign policy experience and is pro-choice. Even though he initially voted for the war, he has been a vocal critic of the war for some time. Nothing wrong with him.

The people who claim that they are voting for McCain because of the VP choice are either Republican stooges or are just being theatrical (or crazy).

Posted by: Samis | August 23, 2008 2:17 AM | Report abuse

My prediction on how Republicans will attack the democratic ticket: judges & abortion.
[...]
Republicans now have a clear wedge issue to start pounding on.
Posted by: DT | August 23, 2008 2:08 AM

They emphasize "judges & abortion" in EVERY ELECTION.

Posted by: Aleks | August 23, 2008 2:17 AM | Report abuse

okay now, all you Dems. waiting for that text message-don't wait up! otherwise you're just going to get hit up for money-it's gonna take LOTS OF CASH TO CONVINCE PEOPLE TO VOTE FOR A DO NOTHING AND A PLAGIARIZER BLOWHARD 65 YEAR OLD PROFESSIONAL CONGRESSIONAL RAT!

Posted by: spring rain | August 23, 2008 2:16 AM | Report abuse

Obama is disclosing himself as a political animal who will do and say anything to get elected President. Biden is far from the worst Democrat around, but his notorious status as the ultimate Beltway insider surely disqualifies him as the person Obama needs to sell his "it's time for a change" story. As for Biden's foreign policy expertise, this is an "expert" who just flew to Georgia to pledge allegiance to a Georgian president who just two weeks ago launched a massive artillery assault on a Georgian provincial capitol populated by civilians whom Georgia claims as its own citizens. What are these jokers in Washington thinking?

Posted by: richard young | August 23, 2008 2:15 AM | Report abuse

gosh, how exciting......obama/biden....almost as exciting as dukakis/bentsen

Posted by: spring rain | August 23, 2008 2:15 AM | Report abuse

If Obama really wanted to win.. He would have picked the person who won 18 million votes. The person that people love especially in her adoptive state of New York. This shows that Obama can't suck his pride and make the best choice for america. Obama will have no one but to blame Himself after he loses to McCain. This is a year when democratics should win no matter what. The democrats have throwned that away. I wonder how he is going to heal the democratic party when he doesn't have the person who he needs the most at his side?? This a slap on Hillary's supporters and most now will vote McCain. Thanks for the real changed Obama. Hope you like coming back to the senate. When you could have been President.

Posted by: Ivan | August 23, 2008 2:15 AM | Report abuse

I'm a moderate in suburban Cleveland (OH). Until this announcement, I was leaning McCain, mostly because I will never put trust in an untested candidate (see Bush). Adding Biden to Obama has me leaning in a new direction. I still don't like Obama's healthcare plan. I also worry about the deficit and his pandering to the environmental lobby. But I'm even more concerned about foreign policy. And I really like Biden on that. If McCain picks any candidate that preaches God before policy, it's a no brainer. I'm off to Obamaland...

Posted by: feelingbetterinohio | August 23, 2008 2:15 AM | Report abuse

So basically Obama has been shoving the word "Change" in our faces for over a year and a half and now he picks a guy who has been in the Senate since his 20's and now he's in his 60's.....um.....how is this change fom old Washington? I really don't get Obama anymore. What is his message? How is this change from old Washington? It keeps changing every day!!! He keeps changing everyday!!

Posted by: yeah yeah | August 23, 2008 2:14 AM | Report abuse

This is great!

Obama, no one can stop him and Biden.

Posted by: johng | August 23, 2008 2:14 AM | Report abuse

For those Hillary supports that say they will vote for McCain, well, go ahead. It won't make any difference. McCain is the elitist who's ambitions are only to be president. It is time for a complete change and if you would prefer another Bush administration (just look at the company he keeps) then be my guest and vote for it.

Posted by: hmmmmmer | August 23, 2008 2:12 AM | Report abuse

McCain has just won the election. What an elitist moron Obama is.

Posted by: fjcastro | August 23, 2008 2:12 AM | Report abuse

Bahama for OBAMA 100%
RESTORE OLD GLORY.

Joe Biden A great Choice*
I Still support Obama, the Clintons and the DNC.

UNITE! America...
I, SAY YOU MUST GETUP!STAND UP! ONE MORE TIME, STAND UP FOR YOU RIGHTS! NEVER GIVE UP THE FIGHT, CUS, I WILL NEVER GIVE UP THE FIGHT! DONT GIVE UP THE FIGHT!
CHANGE WE CAN DO IT!

Ian
Nassau

THE PEOPLE OF THE FREE WORLD.
THE COMMONWEALTH OF THE BAHAMAS

Posted by: Ian | August 23, 2008 2:11 AM | Report abuse

Republicans: Bend over and kiss your butts goodbye. The Dems have you nuked this season.

Save your junk for 8 years. You should be able to find some new Roves and Limbaughs by then. Who knows? Maybe another B actor will emerge for you. Good luck.

Posted by: Madman | August 23, 2008 2:11 AM | Report abuse

Wow a longwinded veteran of the senate what a choice. Well Hello Republicans again what is it with this democratic party? All this hype about racism against obama when really it has always been against women. Once again the old boys club has rejected any woman I am not meaning Hilary, they must be to scared that a woman might do alright.

Biden to me is an awful choice he never shuts up and when he is done has said nothing. he loves to hear himself.

Obama though must be running scared for biden to be his pick.

I wish the dems would get a backbone and some brains maybe next election.

Posted by: sandra | August 23, 2008 2:10 AM | Report abuse

This is what the Obama campaign and MSM have been hyping 24/7?

As an avid Obama supporter for over a yr, my reaction is: Joe Biden is a very uninspired, mediocre choice for VP. He is as much a part of the U.S. mainstream foreign policy establishment as the GOP's Richard Lugar and John Warner. Biden not only swallowed all of that neo-con agit-prop fantasies that Bush/Cheney and the Republican Congress pushed in 2002 and 2003 -- he was a solid supporter of the 3/4 of a trillion dollar US war in Iraq until 2007 -- when he decided to run for the Democratic Party presidential nomination -- and suddenly became anti-Iraq war.

What has happened to Barrack Obama and his campaign for President? Not only is this a huge deflation of the momentum that carried him to his winning the Democratic primary campaign -- but it offers the McSame and the Bush/Cheney/Rove GOP the chance to ridicule Obama for the fact that even HE realizes his shortcomings in foreign and defense policies.

Instead of focusing on the desperate desire of 50+ percent of the American public for dramatic change -- and for re-ordering USG priorities to the American economy and American needs -- once again, the Democrats have allowed the Republicans to distract the US electorate with all of this garbage about how American security interests are threatened.

American national interests are threatened by whom? The Russians in Georgia? the radical Sunnis and Shiites in the Arab Mid-east? A thousand yr war in Afghanistan pitting Western Caucasian military force against Moslem fighters? The Iranians and their over-hyped obsession with nuclear technology? These are the dire threats that the neo-cons, their right-wing Republican allies, the Lieberman Democrats, the US foreign policy community -- and the MSM all claim to be threatening American national interests??

All the while, the US economy and US economic/social future gets flushed down the toilet, and the US Constitution gets trashed.

Obama and the Democrats were supposed to reverse all of that -- not re-inforce it.

This is going to act as a huge wet blanket among Democratic Party supporters in generating any surge of support for Obama and the Democratic ticket.

Posted by: LesG | August 23, 2008 2:10 AM | Report abuse

McCain 2008
Hillary 2012
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Posted by: grace | August 23, 2008 2:06 AM

Even pretending the Dems would elect Hillary after her supporters tried to give away the 2008 election, do you know what the Supreme Court would look like after 4 years of McCain? Try using your brain, instead of whatever it is you're thinking with.

Posted by: Aleks | August 23, 2008 2:09 AM | Report abuse

My prediction on how Republicans will attack the democratic ticket: judges & abortion.

Obama already has an incredibly pro-abortion record and his recent comments at Rick Warren's forum didn't help much.

Biden was the chair of the judiciary committee during the Robert Bork hearings. Nuff Said.

Republicans now have a clear wedge issue to start pounding on.

I'm an Obama supporter. Being pro-life, I've simply decided to bite the bullet on the abortion issue in this campaign, but the Biden pick makes it sting that much more. Tim Kaine, who at least seems to understand that there are legitimate rights on both side of this issue, would have been a little easier to stomach.

Posted by: DT | August 23, 2008 2:08 AM | Report abuse

well this confirms that I'm definitely not voting for Obama. It's like Obama was searching for a teacher rather than an assistant. I want a President...not an intern.

Posted by: postit | August 23, 2008 2:08 AM | Report abuse

Well, it's taken 20 year but Biden FINALLY found a way to make it onto a Presidential ticket.

Posted by: JackESpratt | August 23, 2008 2:07 AM | Report abuse

Biden is the REAL straight talk express!
Posted by: Bill | August 23, 2008 2:00 AM
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erm, I think LONG talk express is more like it, mate.
Posted by: Osama-Binladen 08 | August 23, 2008 2:03 AM


Sadly, it seems the terrorist has won the thread.

Posted by: Aleks | August 23, 2008 2:06 AM | Report abuse

Obama and Biden. Incredible fiasco.

Obama is sure to lose now. They will both be back in the Senate in November.

I am a Hillary supporter voting for McCain in 2008 along with the other 20 million Clinton supporters.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

McCain 2008
Hillary 2012

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Posted by: grace | August 23, 2008 2:06 AM | Report abuse

Game over GOP. He made the right choice. 16 years of Dems.

Posted by: sebsosman | August 23, 2008 2:01 AM

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Biden would be older than McCain is now after 8 years, you moron.

Posted by: Rotten choice | August 23, 2008 2:06 AM | Report abuse

Obama to women: Go to hell. What are you gonna do? Vote for the pro-lifers? Then, shut up and sit down.
Posted by: Obama-Biden | August 23, 2008 1:59 AM

Because naturally all women see their fate tied to Hillary's quest for the White House. If Obama doesn't want the Republicans running video of his own VP pick saying McCain would be a better president, well then he's obviously a misogynist.

Posted by: Aleks | August 23, 2008 2:05 AM | Report abuse

Joe Biden is the best of the candidates for VP.

Posted by: lmurphy006 | August 23, 2008 2:05 AM | Report abuse

The republicans are in deep trouble. McCain will now pick Romney who everyone knows he can't stand. Romney is a one-trick pony and a Mormon to boot. The evangelicals will stay home. Obama wins.

Posted by: ObamaBiden08 | August 23, 2008 2:04 AM | Report abuse

This is an excellent choice. Joe Biden is a man of the people and runs rings around John McCain on foreign policy. I'm very pleased.

Posted by: Mary | August 23, 2008 2:04 AM | Report abuse


Biden is the REAL straight talk express!

Posted by: Bill | August 23, 2008 2:00 AM

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erm, I think LONG talk express is more like it, mate.

Posted by: Osama-Binladen 08 | August 23, 2008 2:03 AM | Report abuse

Democrats: Thank your lucky stars it wasn't Bayh. He has more skeletons than the Munsters.

Posted by: Madman | August 23, 2008 2:02 AM | Report abuse

Game over GOP. He made the right choice. 16 years of Dems.

Posted by: sebsosman | August 23, 2008 2:01 AM | Report abuse

Biden is the REAL straight talk express!

Posted by: Bill | August 23, 2008 2:00 AM | Report abuse

And all his followers have eaten heartily from his droppings. Only way to explain all the idiots here saying they're bummed with the pick and will vote for McCain. Only a complete retard will vote for McBush. And of course, such retards are the Nazi stooges that gobble up the fecal matter pooped out by that fat pill popping pig.

Posted by: Looks Like Rush Took A Dump | August 23, 2008 2:00 AM | Report abuse

Obama to women: Go to hell. What are you gonna do? Vote for the pro-lifers? Then, shut up and sit down.

Posted by: Obama-Biden | August 23, 2008 1:59 AM | Report abuse

McCain picks Hillary Clinton as VP.

Posted by: Bill | August 23, 2008 1:58 AM | Report abuse

I dunno if it was worthwhile for the estimable Chris Cillizza or me to be up so late at night.

I don't know that Biden's going to be any better than Obama at the modern sort of candidate and presidential rhetoric that Elvin Linn called "barking idiotically through endless night". His book is "The Anti-intellectual Presidency: the decline of presidential rhetoric from Washington to George W. Bush". Charles M. Blow expresses the same thoughts at the NY Times this morning. Kinsley's column is a bit related. I've supported Obama's campaign. I was gratified to see him nominated. But right now, I'd just as soon see Sen. Clinton stage and uprising and seize the nomination next week.

Posted by: Dave [from the Achenboodle] | August 23, 2008 1:57 AM | Report abuse

Dang, might as well give the south and west back to France and Mexico, cause Biden can’t carry even carry feather for us. Say it ain’t so, Barack.
Change we can believe in, my duff!
Latinos for Richardson and change.

Posted by: JC | August 23, 2008 1:57 AM | Report abuse

Bill Richardson, John Edwards, Tim Kaine, Claire McCaskill, Kathleen Siebilus - ha ha ha ha ha - hope you enjoyed the ride on the bus. Hey, is the underside clean?

Posted by: UM | August 23, 2008 1:57 AM | Report abuse

Good choice, but not a game-changer, I can only hope that more Dems show up in Nov, still looks more possible than not. It out of my hands now and in the hands of Diebold.

Posted by: Biden God-like and Angelically Pure | August 23, 2008 1:55 AM | Report abuse

Changing the face of Washington huh a-hole? With one of the longest serving Democratic Senators huh?


You lost me. McCain/Romney 08. Our economy is more important than your effing ego!!!

Posted by: TDown | August 23, 2008 1:53 AM | Report abuse

I have never been more concerned. Joe Biden is an excellent person, but will quite likely cost Obama the election....

Posted by: javier | August 23, 2008 1:52 AM | Report abuse


The democratic ticket is unelectable.

Posted by: JohnAdams1 | August 23, 2008 1:52 AM | Report abuse

This confirms that Obama knows he knows nothing about foreign policy. Now McCain should pick a woman and the GOP will snatch victory from the jaws of defeat.

Posted by: Sally Jencks | August 23, 2008 1:52 AM | Report abuse

Thank goodness!
I have been hoping and praying it would be Joe Biden.
Good for Obama and good for Joe.
He is far and away Obama's wise selection.
They will make a great team.

Posted by: Judy-in-TX | August 23, 2008 1:51 AM | Report abuse

Now we know what an idiot Obama is. And this is coming from a person who would have voted for him. Now, it is just a big yaaawn!

Posted by: Narnia | August 23, 2008 1:51 AM | Report abuse

Obama's choice of Biden negates his message of change and judgment. Biden has been a U.S. senator for thirty-six years and initially supported the Iraq war. A far more prudent choice would've been Wesley Clark. But then again, they're the professionals.

Posted by: Michael V. | August 23, 2008 1:51 AM | Report abuse

. ps. the lame excuse by the McSame camp to say the houses belong to the wife, Cindy. ...because when marriage is defined as between a man and a woman, the homes are always separate.

Posted by: Restore My Faith | August 23, 2008 1:48 AM

To be fair, with a guy who treats women like McCain does you know Cindy's family insisted on an airtight prenup. Even those $500 shoes are probably in her name.

Posted by: Aleks | August 23, 2008 1:50 AM | Report abuse

lets say if we want someone old enough we could choose John McCain directely
is this the strategy ,oldddddddddddd

Posted by: outternet | August 23, 2008 1:50 AM | Report abuse

this choice shows obama is very wise and a good decision-maker. biden fills in obama's biggest holes and, although he may not be the best choice for winning a presidency in this age of american weirdness, he is the best choice for the country as the person to be a heartbeat away from the presidency. our foreign policy is a mess and needs someone to lead the effort to regain our credibility. it was said best at www.straightrecord.com

Posted by: jumpingelephant | August 23, 2008 1:49 AM | Report abuse

Obama is out of his rabbit picking mind if he thinks by picking Biden that's going to be a for sure win. He should have picked Hillary, I don't care how many speeches he delivery to sell this ticket I'm not buying or voting for him.

Posted by: Just Me | August 23, 2008 1:48 AM | Report abuse

as flounder said in animal house:

this is GREAT!

Posted by: sure loser | August 23, 2008 1:48 AM | Report abuse

Could have been worse. Biden supported the idiot war, but he wasn't a cheerleader for it like Bayh and Hillary (and above all McCain). And Biden's not above fighting dirty, as Obama obviously doesn't want to and McCain apparently revels in.

Posted by: Aleks | August 23, 2008 1:48 AM | Report abuse

I am excited about Obama picking Joe Biden. His story includes still riding the train back and forth from Washington D.C. He is the poorest Senator. I have seen him speak many times, and I have always admired his strength, knowledge, and sense of humor. I think he would restore honor to the VP's office. And I am sure Biden knows how many homes he owns. Way to go, Obama. ps. the lame excuse by the McSame camp to say the houses belong to the wife, Cindy. ...because when marriage is defined as between a man and a woman, the homes are always separate.

Posted by: Restore My Faith | August 23, 2008 1:48 AM | Report abuse

Great choice. Gives the ticket balance, a combination of youthful idealism and real-deal experience. McCain had a good month by turning things very negative and betraying his fundamental principles... he probably reached the high water mark of his candidacy at the moment before he couldn't answer how many homes he owns. Obama/Biden is a powerful ticket.

Posted by: James Lutz | August 23, 2008 1:45 AM | Report abuse

The worry factor just doubled for the 'pubs. When they attack Biden, he'll bite back--and HARD! Even if McCain picks Romney every knows that they hate each other. McCain and Romney have zero foreign policy experience and while Romney has experience with the economy he's not an idiot. How do you increase revenue without raising taxes. Too much money has gone to the war and our debt with China is nearing a trillion dollars. You HAVE to either tax the rich and the corporations and oil companies or tax everyone else. There is no plethora of government programs you can cut and think you'll reduce the defecit. Put simply--the republicans are now officially SCREWED!

Posted by: Bill | August 23, 2008 1:45 AM | Report abuse

Very happy to see Obama choosing to forgo the milquetoast contestants that were being bandied about - Obama/Biden has got to be the most intelligent pairing of presidential candidates in a very long time. We may actually be able to hear our leaders speak...without cringing. What a thought.

Posted by: rdeemer | August 23, 2008 1:43 AM | Report abuse

It just won't be the same when I get the text tomorrow . I thought we had something special . I still love you and am willing to keep shilling for you . I just can't believe you let it leak to CNN and not me . When I heard that dirty old Larry King getting this great story , something inside me died .

Posted by: Chris Matthews | August 23, 2008 1:41 AM | Report abuse

Its now obvious that Obama himself admits that he is not experienced at all. He has to depend on Senator Biden. Why not just vote for Biden to be president? Wake up! You are making a huge mistake voting for someone who's a great speaker but is not ready to lead. Whether you like it or not, he should have chosen Clinton to be his VP. That would be a sure ticket to win the presidency.

Posted by: sam | August 23, 2008 1:41 AM | Report abuse

At last! The Messiah has an assistant.

Posted by: Tupac Goldstein | August 23, 2008 1:38 AM | Report abuse

What a choice,
Obama the empty suit picks joe the lip, the consummate loser. Sure looks like change to me ....

Posted by: Steve4 | August 23, 2008 1:38 AM | Report abuse

Barack should have chosen Bill Richardson, Al Gore or John Kerry. At least he did not pick Senator Clinton, who has tried for several months to undermine his candidacy.

Joe Biden is acceptable, but will not significantly help Barack. Above all Barack needs to be more assertive and specific in criticizing conservative Republican policies, as well as describing with clarity more details about his proposals to help Americans.

Posted by: Independent | August 23, 2008 1:36 AM | Report abuse

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