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Obama: The Final Frame



Barack Obama will return to the stage today with a major speech to present his case for why voters should put him in the White House. (Photo by Nikki Kahn -- The Washington Post)

Seeking to frame the final week of a presidential contest that appears to be moving more and more in his favor, Barack Obama will deliver a speech this afternoon in Canton, Ohio that his campaign is billing as the contest's "closing argument."

Obama's great strength as a candidate is his ability to deliver the "big" speech; he began his national political career with his address at the 2004 Democratic National Convention, catapulted it with his speech at the Iowa Jefferson-Jackson Dinner in late 2007 and may well have saved it with an address on race in the wake of the Rev. Jeremiah Wright controversy.

And so, it makes perfect strategic sense that with the election just seven days away, the Obama campaign is once again turning to a major speech to make the case to voters as to why they need to elect the Illinois senator.

(A sidenote: Obama's campaign, in these closing days of the race, has also returned to the the massive crowd events that characterized his rallies earlier this year. The goal is to build a sense of excitement and momentum as the election draws closer.)

The campaign released excerpts of the address this morning and, in the finest Fix tradition of reading it so you don't have to, here are the basic themes that Obama will lay out:

1. Stakes Are High: It's hard to remember but as recently as eight years ago, most voters didn't believe all that much was at stake in the presidential election between George W. Bush and Al Gore. But then came Sept. 11, 2001, the war in Iraq, Hurricane Katrina and the collapse of the American economy, and there are few voters these days who don't understand that the identity of the president makes a huge difference in their everyday lives. "In one week, at this defining moment in history, you can give the country the change we need," Obama will say -- seeking to drive home the once-in-a-lifetime opportunity before voters on Nov. 4.

2. McCain = Bush: Just as he did in the three presidential debates (and in countless ads run in battleground states), Obama will seek to tie McCain to Bush in the address. After praising McCain's military service and occasional willingness to break with the president on some issues (torture, most notably), Obama will make the case that on the economy -- "the central issue of this election" -- there is no difference between the current president and the Republican candidate. "The plain truth is that John McCain has stood with this President every step of the way," Obama will say.

3. McCain As Risky: Responding to the idea being pushed by Republicans in the closing moments of the campaign that electing Obama -- given his lack of experience on the national stage -- represents a major risk for voters, Obama will seek to turn the tables by making the case that voting for four more years of the last eight years is the far greater risk. "Senator McCain says that we can't spend the next four years waiting for our luck to change, but you understand that the biggest gamble we can take is embracing the same old Bush-McCain policies that have failed us for the last eight years," Obama will say. On this point, Obama is on solid ground. In a mid-October Washington Post/ABC News survey 55 percent of those tested said Obama would be a safe pick as president while 45 percent said he would be risky; the sample split directly down the middle (50 percent for each side) when asked whether McCain would be safe or risky.

4. Same As It Ever Was: At the core of Obama's success in this race is his ability to boil down his message to a single word -- "change" -- and stick with it through the inevitable highs and lows of the campaign. Obama has come to use "change" as a metaphor for the hopes and dreams of American voters -- for the idea that they can have the government they want in Washington. And, given the success of the idea of changing Washington, it's not surprising Obama harps on it during this closing address. "As I've said from the day we began this journey all those months ago, the change we need isn't just about new programs and policies," Obama will say. "It's about a new politics -- a politics that calls on our better angels instead of encouraging our worst instincts; on that reminds us of the obligations we have to ourselves and one another."

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McCain can be very difficult.

What he has shown me he is capable of is: 1st divisiveness, then his constant attacks on his opponent, the lies, accusations, innuendos,
attacking his opponents charter, robo calls, fighting (fight- is one of his favorite verbs) for only 5% of the country, ignoring or snowing the remaining 95% of the country, name calling his opponent which the country is tired of hearing, inter alia. He is just too negative and it is constant.

Reverend Wright has the same negative-McCain mentality and it turned Barack Obama AWAY from Rev. Wright (something intelligent people have already figured out) and that is how I have turned away from John McCain.

People with hateful mentality like McCain and Rev. Wright are people you learn to LOVE FROM A DISTANCE.

Children run away from homes and families because of constant negative complaints about them.

This is the result of negativity, whether it is coming from a home or a politician or an employer. It runs people away.

None of this is appealing and it is surely a turn off.

Obama has been electrifying, soothing and caring to the forgotten 95%. That's the difference.

Posted by: Iwantmyvoicetobeheard | October 30, 2008 1:32 PM | Report abuse

John McCain has been acting erratically ever since he selected Palin for his running mate. When the economy failed his behavior became bizarre. Stresses on any president in the next few years are going to be extreme . They will be fatal for someone in McCain's health and mental state. When he steps down we will then inherit his Palin fiasco.

Now Colin Powell has recognized these facts and has endorsed Obama as being a cool-headed and logical leader who is more fit for the presidency.

Kipling said it best:

If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you
But make allowance for their doubting too,
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, don't deal in lies,
Or being hated, don't give way to hating,
And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise:

If you can dream--and not make dreams your master,
If you can think--and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,

If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
Or walk with Kings---nor lose the common touch,
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
If all men count with you, but none too much:
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds' worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And---which is more---you'll be a Man, my son!


He was talking about men like Obama.


Posted by: seemstome | October 29, 2008 3:08 PM | Report abuse

John McCain has been acting erratically ever since he selected Palin for his running mate. When the economy failed his behavior became bizarre. Stresses on any president in the next few years are going to be extreme . They will be fatal for someone in McCain's health and mental state. When he steps down we will then inherit his Palin fiasco.

Now Colin Powell has recognized these facts and has endorsed Obama as being a cool-headed and logical leader who is more fit for the presidency.

Kipling said it best:

If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you
But make allowance for their doubting too,
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, don't deal in lies,
Or being hated, don't give way to hating,
And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise:

If you can dream--and not make dreams your master,
If you can think--and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,

If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
Or walk with Kings---nor lose the common touch,
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
If all men count with you, but none too much:
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds' worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And---which is more---you'll be a Man, my son!


He was talking about men like Obama.


Posted by: seemstome | October 29, 2008 9:24 AM | Report abuse

Obama: The Final Frame


The "Time" is now for our country to unite and embark on our journey to restore our country and bring about the much needed change that we the American people so desperately needs. Together we can stand once again despite the inherited crisis from the last eight years. Together, we can do it and together we will do it. "I love when a plan comes together, so let's do it'. Our nation is no doubt the leading nation in the world, yet over the last past eight years, it has begun to decline in value, BUT, together we won't allow it to go any further down, because, "Yes Together We Can" and Yes Together We Will" survive it all and make America a better place today, tommorrow and forever! YES YES YES ! God Bless America!

Posted by: Nisey01 | October 28, 2008 1:14 PM | Report abuse

Obama: The Final Frame


The "Time" is now for our country to unite and embark on our journey to restore our country and bring about the much needed change that we the American people so desperately needs. Together we can stand once again despite the inherited crisis from the last eight years. Together, we can do it and together we will do it. "I love when a plan comes together, so let's do it'. Our nation is no doubt the leading nation in the world, yet over the last past eight years, it has begun to decline in value, BUT, together we won't allow it to go any further down, because, "Yes Together We Can" and Yes Together We Will" survive it all and make America a better place today, tommorrow and forever! YES YES YES ! God Bless America!

Posted by: Nisey01 | October 28, 2008 1:10 PM | Report abuse


Obama: The Final Frame

This world's crisis is bigger than the hate, the division, the lies and the likes in which McCain is targeting at Obama. Our country would benefit tremendously from Obama. In conclusion it would benefit all to know the truth , the facts, America’s political path, America's standing in the world at present and the history of America to understand why an Obama vote would be the best in my honest opinion. God Bless America!

Posted by: Nisey01 | October 28, 2008 12:55 PM | Report abuse

Obama: The Final Frame

This world's crisis is bigger than the hate, the division, the lies and the likes in which McCain is targeting at Obama. Our country would benefit tremendously from Obama. In conclusion it would benefit all to know the truth , the facts, America's standing in the world at present and the history of America to understand why an Obama vote would be the best in my honest opinion. God Bless America!

Posted by: Nisey01 | October 28, 2008 12:52 PM | Report abuse

Obama: The Final Frame

If you knew the history of America and it's standing in the world at present, you would know why an Obama vote is the best for our country. This world's crisis is bigger than the hate, the division, the lies and the likes in which McCain is desparately adhering too. Our country would benefit tremendously from Obama and in conclusion knowing the truth , the facts and the history of America have led me to where I am now but not the angry haters in this blog. God Bless America!

Posted by: Nisey01 | October 28, 2008 12:44 PM | Report abuse

Ah, I see so many frustrated McCain supporters on here this morning and I'm glad I'm no longer one of the Republican party's sheep being lead to slaughter. What's wrong, isn't the hate mongering working this time, are there too many people actually listening and thinking for themselves, is reality biting you in the butt? McCain and his tired policies, please can you seriously still believe all that bunk? They tricked us...there's nothing trickling down. Now go stand in the time out corner and do some real thinking on your own for a change, Rush and Karl can't make everything alright no matter how much negativity they spew.

Posted by: kaetc81 | October 28, 2008 11:27 AM | Report abuse

Ah, I see so many frustrated McCain supporters on here this morning and I'm glad I'm no longer one of the Republican party's sheep being lead to slaughter. What's wrong, isn't the hate mongering working this time, are there too many people actually listening and thinking for themselves, is reality biting you in the butt? McCain and his tired policies, please can you seriously still believe all that bunk? They tricked us...there's nothing trickling down. Now go stand in the time out corner and do some real thinking on your own for a change, Rush and Karl can't make everything alright no matter how much negativity they spew.

Posted by: kaetc81 | October 28, 2008 11:27 AM | Report abuse

Ah, I see so many frustrated McCain supporters on here this morning and I'm glad I'm no longer one of the Republican party's sheep being lead to slaughter. What's wrong, isn't the hate mongering working this time, are there too many people actually listening and thinking for themselves, is reality biting you in the butt? McCain and his tired policies, please can you seriously still believe all that bunk? They tricked us...there's nothing trickling down. Now go stand in the time out corner and do some real thinking on your own for a change, Rush and Karl can't make everything alright no matter how much negativity they spew.

Posted by: kaetc81 | October 28, 2008 11:24 AM | Report abuse

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THIS IS THE FINAL FRAME - THE AFFIRMATIVE ACTION GUY WHO WANTS TO REDISTRIBUTE WEALTH AND PRESS BLACK LIBERATION THEOLOGY ON AMERICA:


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Obama Reveals his TRUE Thinking in a radio interview:

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iivL4c_3pck


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Let's all review how this year, not decades ago. OBAMA REFUSED TO DISAVOW Rev. Wright and his BLACK LIBERATION THEOLOGY TEACHINGS.


What is worse is that Obama exposed his children to the HATE OF BLACK LIBERATION THEOLOGY FOR YEARS.


EXPOSED HIS CHILDREN TO THAT RACIST HATE UNTIL IT BECAME POLITICALLY IMPOSSIBLE FOR OBAMA TO CONTINUE TO BRING HIS CHILDREN TO THE RACIST CHURCH !


IF A WHITE candidate had a similar church, the Washignton Post would be railing against that candidate.


The bias is great, the racism is unbelievable. The media has given Obama so many passes.


Then they have to go and get some FALSE CHARGES FROM DECADES AGO.


Investigate Obama and his democratic friends in Chicago.


Investigate his friend REZKO who has been indicted and whose story much of America does not know.


Investigate all the connections between Michele Obama and Farrakhan.


BE SERIOUS MEDIA.


YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING DRINKING THE KOOL-AID OF THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN TALKING POINTS AS IF IT WERE TRUTH.


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Posted by: 37thandOSt | October 28, 2008 11:20 AM | Report abuse

BO closes his comments yesterday in Ohio with the statement that he will save the country and the world. I think the problems in the US are big enough. I think this comment moves him from "socialist" to "socialist demigod".

P.S. Invade Neanderthaland Anthilles NOW!

Posted by: leapin | October 28, 2008 11:12 AM | Report abuse

McCain has displayed zero leadership quality so far. He likes to blame others more than taking actions. Obama talks more about his policies than McCain. McCain if comes to power he will blame congress and try to escape. I don't like McCain as a leader. Infact one of the very uninspiring leader. When you think his running mate is a barbie doll it is really scary. McCain should have never run for election with thees qualities.

Posted by: vkarthik | October 28, 2008 9:46 AM | Report abuse

Chris:

A year ago I would have agreed with you that we are a center-right country


However how do you account for the apparently millions who support the ultra-left high-tax socialist Black-Liberation-Thelogy Obama ???


Some of these people are post-midlife crisis protester-wannabees who yearn for the 60s to come back. Yea, they get out of their white mercedes and they want to go to a flower child rally.


These people believe the Weather Underground is "cool." Did it ever disband? Obama could be a secret member for all we know.


The members of the Weather Underground have been attempting to infiltrate the Democratic National Committee for decades - they were at the Democratic National Committee during Bill Clinton's transition period in 1992 - 1993. The Washington Post really should track these people and see what they have been up to - one thing they have been doing is mentoring Obama.


yea.


I find this entire development quite concerning - CHRIS IF YOU ACTUALLY READ WILLIAM AYERS' WRITINGS FROM THE 60s - Ayers says he wants to create an alliance with the forces of Black Liberation Theology and destroy America from that direction.


Even MSNBC this morning was slamming the New York Times on media bias - that is hilarious however the problem has been so severe they cannot deceive anymore and having Joe and Mika admit and discuss it is at least a first step.


Chris - let's see you do ONE PIECE on the philosophy of the Church of Black Liberation Theology - how they see everything through "white values" and "black values" and REMIND EVERYONE THEY ARE TEACHING THEIR CHILDREN THIS NONSENSE. Then remind everyone that Obama gave the Church of Black Liberation Theology $20,000.00 in one year.

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Posted by: 37thandOSt | October 28, 2008 7:21 AM | Report abuse


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Old Tape of Obama Revealing His Real Thinking:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iivL4c_3pck

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Let's all review how this year, not decades ago. OBAMA REFUSED TO DISAVOW Rev. Wright and his BLACK LIBERATION THEOLOGY TEACHINGS.


What is worse is that Obama exposed his children to the HATE OF BLACK LIBERATION THEOLOGY FOR YEARS.


EXPOSED HIS CHILDREN TO THAT RACIST HATE UNTIL IT BECAME POLITICALLY IMPOSSIBLE FOR OBAMA TO CONTINUE TO BRING HIS CHILDREN TO THE RACIST CHURCH !


IF A WHITE candidate had a similar church, the Washignton Post would be railing against that candidate.


The bias is great, the racism is unbelievable. The media has given Obama so many passes.


Then they have to go and get some FALSE CHARGES FROM DECADES AGO.


Investigate Obama and his democratic friends in Chicago.


Investigate his friend REZKO who has been indicted and whose story much of America does not know.


Investigate all the connections between Michele Obama and Farrakhan.


BE SERIOUS MEDIA.


YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING DRINKING THE KOOL-AID OF THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN TALKING POINTS AS IF IT WERE TRUTH.


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Posted by: 37thandOSt | October 28, 2008 6:39 AM | Report abuse

SEN. OBAMA FREE CANDY POLICY WOULD HURT ALL AMERICANS, INCLUDING THE POOR!!!

* If we start tax penalizing working people and give away free money to people, then what motivation will there be for receivers to do the right thing to improve themselves? This free candy policy is a 70's/80's Democratic policy. It rewarded negative behavior and penalizes positive behavior. With this policy, people got stuck in welfare and unemployment benefits for extended period. It also degraded our economy because these people found it more easy to take free benefits than to go work.

* Many Asian nations do not accept American aid anymore because they realize welfarism is terrible. They found out that welfarism makes them too dependent on America and prevents them from figuring out solutions to their problems.


BTW, giving to the poor is good. However, changing our (efficient generating) capitalistic/free market system into a welfarism system is not good. Welfarism will prolong poor people's problems and suffering, and at the same time drag the rest of Americans down. This is true. We have seen the disaster this welfarism economic policy caused during the 70's/80's. It also caused a financial institution mess because Barney Franks, Chris Dodd and Democrats caused banks to give unqualified borrowers loans.

Posted by: lazerboy | October 28, 2008 1:03 AM | Report abuse

Here's a great clip from Bill Maher's last show:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqB-Dd6_a50

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Posted by: LisaJM | October 27, 2008 10:00 PM | Report abuse

thecannula-

Thanks for the opportunity to discuss our differing positions.

Rooster54-
Sorry, I was at work.
You have a problem with Jack Welch. I see him as a money magnet: wherever he goes, money follows. He pulled GE out of Rhode Island and thousands of middle class workers lost their jobs and are still suffering. So, the officials of Rhode Island are reconsidering their 9% state corporate tax rate- what do you think they should do? Isn't it the same thing WE should do on Nov 4th? Let's cut US corporate tax rates so Jack's successors running multinational corporations don't see the US the way Jack saw Rhode Island...But Rooster, It's Not Personal- It's Just Business...

Obama is now on tape from 2001 confirming that he wants to redistribute wealth and change the supreme court to assist in this task-

John Mccain wants to keep business in America by cutting corporate taxes-

Socialism (Redistributive economy) has failed EVERYWHERE it's been tried- according to the World Health Org., countries with the highest rate of suicide are all socialist- take away incentive and employment goes down, suicide goes up- is that the country for which you will vote?


(Zogby Rasmusson and Gallup (traditional)
all down to 5, IBD- 4....America is waking up to Obama's Redistributive Socialism- national polls first, the states will follow)

Posted by: thecannula | October 27, 2008 9:54 PM | Report abuse

AgnosticEngineer
Yes, Pres. Clinton balanced the budget --but with a Republican control congress. Before this Rep. control congress, Democrats had decades control of congress.

* The Republicans forced Pres. Clinton to end unending welfare and unemployment benefits.(BTW, this old Democratic economic policy is what Sen. Obama is now espousing.

* Newt Gingrich and rest of Rep. congress forced Pres. Clinton to cut tax and to reduce government spending.
NOW THIS REP. ECONOMIC POLICY IS WHAT SEN. MCCAIN IS NOW ESPOUSING. WE HAVE SEEN THAT IT WORKED IN THE PAST AND MOST LIKELY WOULD WORK AGAIN.

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If we go into a depression it will be due to the generation of imaginary wealth pushed by the Republicans for the past 30 years. Their policies of tax relief for big businesses and the wealthy have driven our debt to astounding heights.

Before Reagan took office out debt was under $1 trillion. Now it exceeds $10 trillion. There have been 3 Republican Presidents and 1 Democrat. The Democrat was the only one to balance the budget...

Posted by: AgnosticEngineer | October 27, 2008 4:57 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: lazerboy | October 27, 2008 8:05 PM | Report abuse

LOL. Actually, Barack's best closing argument is anything written by McCain supporters like 37andOst.

A gift that keeps giving...much like Palin.

Posted by: wpost4112 | October 27, 2008 7:32 PM | Report abuse

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CLOSING ARGUMENT:


Instead of arguing what Obama is really about LET'S JUST HEAR OBAMA IN HIS OWN WORDS:


Old Tape of Obama Revealing His Real Thinking:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iivL4c_3pck


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Posted by: 37thandOSt | October 27, 2008 7:26 PM | Report abuse

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CLOSING ARGUMENT:


Instead of arguing what Obama is really about LET'S JUST HEAR OBAMA IN HIS OWN WORDS:


Old Tape of Obama Revealing His Real Thinking:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iivL4c_3pck


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Posted by: 37thandOSt | October 27, 2008 7:12 PM | Report abuse

We've really got to re-look at that early release program in Texas.

Posted by: wpost4112 | October 27, 2008 7:01 PM | Report abuse

Texan2007 wrote:

"The "BIG" speech was delivered by Obama in 2001. He says it would be a TRAGEDY if we do not spread the wealth.
REDISTRIBUTE THE WEALTH!
VOTE FOR CZAR OBAMA!
VOTE NO TO DEMOCRACY!
VOTE NO TO DEMOCRATIC USA!
VOTE YES TO SOCIALISM!
VOTE FOR CZAR OBAMA!"

That all-caps, multi exclamation point rant would have seemed a bit unhinged at any time.

It seems specially unhinged after a Republican president and presidential candidate took 1 *trillion* dollars from taxpayer pockets and "infused" it into banks, insurance companies and money market funds.

Posted by: officermancuso | October 27, 2008 6:59 PM | Report abuse

The "BIG" speech was delivered by Obama in 2001. He says it would be a TRAGEDY if we do not spread the wealth.
REDISTRIBUTE THE WEALTH!
VOTE FOR CZAR OBAMA!
VOTE NO TO DEMOCRACY!
VOTE NO TO DEMOCRATIC USA!
VOTE YES TO SOCIALISM!
VOTE FOR CZAR OBAMA!

Posted by: Texan2007 | October 27, 2008 6:49 PM | Report abuse

I'm not surprised that Grampy McCain is getting his butt kicked in this election because I'm still trying to figure out what the McCain campaign message is, other than?:
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"Don't vote for the scary black guy"
-MCCAIN/PALIN 08!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnb2IrsU1Cg
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Posted by: DrainYou | October 27, 2008 6:44 PM | Report abuse

In a very thoughtful post at 5:47 PM, wpost4112 wrote, "The Republican Revolution began with Abraham Lincoln, and a good revolution it was."

I can't help thinking, as the prospects for an Obama presidency continue to brighten, that in some well-deserved place of rest Mr. Lincoln is smiling.

I hasten to add that I don't for a moment think myself capable of speaking Lincoln's mind on subjects he never addressed, I merely offer a thought of my own that comes to me when I think of Obama and of him.

Posted by: officermancuso | October 27, 2008 5:57 PM | Report abuse

I just read up on it a bit, and it looks like it is something called "Barack Obama: American Stories." Sounds like he's going to illustrate his positions with stories about real Americans. But not the stump speech per se.

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that sounds pitch perfect. hope so.

Posted by: wpost4112 | October 27, 2008 5:53 PM | Report abuse

So, it looks like the Republican Revolution that started in the 90s is coming to an ungraceful end with John McCain. In 9 days we can pile it on the ash heap of history along with Mao's Cultural Revolution and all the other bonehead ideas. Onward Democrats to Victory!

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The Republican Revolution began with Abraham Lincoln, and a good revolution it was. George Bush killed it.
I hope someone can revive it because at it's true core--fereralism, low taxes, less gov't, financial conservatism--it plays a valuable role in our country. The Religious Right has mutilated that core. Goldwater knew it, Buckley knew it, we all know it now.

If they can keep the DeLays and Huckabees and Palins on the outer edges, they have a chance to come back.

Otherwise, they'll continue to degenerate into a fascist psuedo-xtian monstrosity.

I wish them well on their revivification.

Posted by: wpost4112 | October 27, 2008 5:47 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, I got caught up in the Stevens news. Thanks to those of you who responded to my comment.

I just read up on it a bit, and it looks like it is something called "Barack Obama: American Stories." Sounds like he's going to illustrate his positions with stories about real Americans. But not the stump speech per se.

Posted by: mikeinmidland | October 27, 2008 5:39 PM | Report abuse

"Agnostic Engineer wonders why returning to Reagan's tax policy is socialist. The answer is you are not looking at the socialist part. The socialist part is giving money in the form of handouts to people who already don't pay taxes. Why should they get government checks? Think about that some."

How about handing tax breaks to those who already live the most comfortably? I suppose you think the poor should just starve. Perhaps you think it will be cheaper to incarcerate them when they have to turn to crime to support their families. No one can live on minimum wage.


"When Obama repeals the tax cut, he is making upper income brackets pay more. This is not just wealthy individuals. This is also American business. Some here seem to think that only individuals earning above 250K will pay more. No this applies to businesses too."

The argument is for small business owners. Yes, they will be effected if they make more. Arguably they will be LESS effected, because they are already proven to be profitable. The increases are still only to a Reagan-era level.

"You see in America, businesses employ people. You tax them more, they have to make ends meet. They do this either by (a) passing costs along to the consumer, which is inflation, (b) cutting personel resulting in higher unemployment and increased workload on the remaining employees, and (c) going out of business because they can no longer compete internationally with those who are not so heavily taxed, or with those businesses which are heavily subsidized."

How many people benefit when the companies do good? How many people have been replaced or had their pay and benefits reduced during this recent record level of growth. The "trickle-down" effect is a con. It justifies giving a bigger slice of the pie to those who have their own bakeries. CEO's have record pay rates. The average worker is getting stiffed.

"How can you lament job loss overseas and support business taxes here at home? Do you not see the direct link?"

That's the fallacy of "free" trade. It is not "free", because we can never compete with slave wages and uncontrolled polluters...

Posted by: AgnosticEngineer | October 27, 2008 5:23 PM | Report abuse

Jeez! If nothing else shows the way things are going to play out Nov 4, look at what the loonies coming out of the woodwork have to say.

I can't imagine what convoluted thinking they must go through to call themselves Americans. Just vote for the person you think is the best and so will the rest of us.

Posted by: Roofelstoon | October 27, 2008 5:04 PM | Report abuse

problems problems they are trying to assassinate BARACK OBAMA

NETHERLANDS ANTILLES

Posted by: fu_buki | October 27, 2008 5:02 PM | Report abuse

"SUMMARY, IF SEN. OBAMA BECOMES PRESIDENT, WE WOULD HEAD INTO A DEPRESSION WITH HIS POPULIST IMPRACTICAL ECONOMIC POLICIES."


If we go into a depression it will be due to the generation of imaginary wealth pushed by the Republicans for the past 30 years. Their policies of tax relief for big businesses and the wealthy have driven our debt to astounding heights.

Before Reagan took office out debt was under $1 trillion. Now it exceeds $10 trillion. There have been 3 Republican Presidents and 1 Democrat. The Democrat was the only one to balance the budget...

Posted by: AgnosticEngineer | October 27, 2008 4:57 PM | Report abuse

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Instead of arguing what Obama is really about LET'S JUST HEAR OBAMA IN HIS OWN WORDS:

Old Tape of Obama Revealing His Real Thinking:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iivL4c_3pck

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Posted by: 37thandOSt | October 27, 2008 4:57 PM | Report abuse

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Instead of arguing what Obama is really about LET'S JUST HEAR OBAMA IN HIS OWN WORDS:

Old Tape of Obama Revealing His Real Thinking:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iivL4c_3pck

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Posted by: 37thandOSt | October 27, 2008 4:55 PM | Report abuse

McCain has finally found a message that works - but it is thirty years too late for the Republicans. ....................

http://thefiresidepost.com/2008/10/27/mccain-has-found-his-voice-but-it-is-too-late/

Posted by: glclark4750 | October 27, 2008 4:51 PM | Report abuse

So, it looks like the Republican Revolution that started in the 90s is coming to an ungraceful end with John McCain. In 9 days we can pile it on the ash heap of history along with Mao's Cultural Revolution and all the other bonehead ideas. Onward Democrats to Victory!

Posted by: FellowTraveler | October 27, 2008 4:43 PM | Report abuse

AMERICAN PEOPLE HELP! SOMEONE TRY TO ASSASSINATE SENATOR BARACK OBAMA...

Posted by: fu_buki | October 27, 2008 4:42 PM | Report abuse

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Instead of arguing what Obama is really about LET'S JUST HEAR OBAMA IN HIS OWN WORDS:


Old Tape of Obama Revealing His Real Thinking:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iivL4c_3pck

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Posted by: 37thandOSt | October 27, 2008 4:39 PM | Report abuse

McCain knows all about bailing out rich bankers and screwing over middle class and poor people, he's been doing it for years
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAzDEbVFcg8
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McCain - Founding Member of the Keating 5:

McCain was one of the "Keating Five," congressmen investigated on ethics charges for strenuously helping convicted racketeer Charles Keating after he gave them large campaign contributions and vacation trips.


Charles Keating was convicted of racketeering and fraud in both state and federal court after his Lincoln Savings & Loan collapsed, costing the taxpayers $3.4 billion. His convictions were overturned on technicalities; for example, the federal conviction was overturned because jurors had heard about his state conviction, and his state charges because Judge Lance Ito (yes, that judge) screwed up jury instructions. Neither court cleared him, and he faces new trials in both courts.)


McCain intervened on behalf of Charles Keating after Keating gave McCain at least $112,00 in contributions. In the mid-1980s, McCain made at least 9 trips on Keating's airplanes, and 3 of those were to Keating's luxurious retreat in the Bahamas. McCain's wife and father-in-law also were the largest investors (at $350,000) in a Keating shopping center; the Phoenix New Times called it a "sweetheart deal."


McCain was not convicted of any crimes, though the Senate concluded that he exercised "poor judgment." (Furthermore, he got off on some charges by a technicality -- that he was still in the House when he took those vacation trips, and so the Senate couldn't prosecute him. The House concluded that THEY couldn't prosecute him because he had moved to the Senate.)


Here's some mavericky straight-talk, my friends:
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http://www.realchange.org/mccain.htm
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Posted by: DrainYou | October 27, 2008 4:38 PM | Report abuse

This is what Palin's inflamatory "anti-americam" remarks encourages:

AP Top News at 4:26 p.m. EDT

WASHINGTON (AP) — The ATF says it has broken up a plot to assassinate Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama and shoot or decapitate 102 black people in a Tennessee murder spree. In court records unsealed Monday, agents said they disrupted plans to rob a gun store and target an unnamed but predominantly African-American high school by two neo-Nazi skinheads.

Posted by: wpost4112 | October 27, 2008 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Obama graduated at the top of his class+.

McCain graduated at the bottom of his class and he is where he is today

because of mommy and daddy.

And it's not that McCain has great ideas either, because he doesn't.


MCCAINS WHOLE CAMPAIGN HAS SIMPLY BEEN


ABOUT CAMPAIGNING AGAINST EVERYTHING


LITTLE THING OBAMA SAYS!!!!!!! THAT'S IT!

AND

The great ideas that Obama ALREADY HAD , McCain

copies them.


I want a president with his own ideas, not a copycat.

Posted by: Iwantmyvoicetobeheard | October 27, 2008 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Obama graduated at the top of his class+.

McCain graduated at the bottom of his class and he is where he is today

because of mommy and daddy.

And it's not that McCain has great ideas either, because he doesn't.


MCCAINS WHOLE CAMPAIGN HAS SIMPLY BEEN


ABOUT CAMPAIGNING AGAINST EVERYTHING


LITTLE THING OBAMA SAYS!!!!!!! THAT'S IT!

AND

The great ideas that Obama ALREADY HAD , McCain

copies them.


I want a president with his own ideas, not a copycat.

Posted by: Iwantmyvoicetobeheard | October 27, 2008 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Agnostic Engineer wonders why returning to Reagan's tax policy is socialist. The answer is you are not looking at the socialist part. The socialist part is giving money in the form of handouts to people who already don't pay taxes. Why should they get government checks? Think about that some.

When Obama repeals the tax cut, he is making upper income brackets pay more. This is not just wealthy individuals. This is also American business. Some here seem to think that only individuals earning above 250K will pay more. No this applies to businesses too.

You see in America, businesses employ people. You tax them more, they have to make ends meet. They do this either by (a) passing costs along to the consumer, which is inflation, (b) cutting personel resulting in higher unemployment and increased workload on the remaining employees, and (c) going out of business because they can no longer compete internationally with those who are not so heavily taxed, or with those businesses which are heavily subsidized.

How can you lament job loss overseas and support business taxes here at home? Do you not see the direct link?

Obama pays for his handouts to the non-tax paying citizens by increasing taxes on individuals and business. We are not running a balanced budget here, so even if a budget is 'revenue neutral' and does not increase the deficit, we STILL are not paying the actual cost of government as taxpayers. What possible justification is there for handing out money to people who already don't pay taxes when we are not paying for the government we already consume?

What is the idealogical basis of robbing business and individuals to give non tax paying people handouts? I would say the socialist credo 'from each according to their ability to each according to their needs' is pretty much the idealogy behind this basic income redistribution. Karl Marx said that, and it really describes what Obama is doing. He has yet to show anywhere where a 'bottom up' redistribution of wealth improves a society. Look to Cuba and the Soviet Union as historical examples where wealth redistribution achieves higher misery in the populace.

Every single one of you who is clammoring for a handout from Obama should be ashamed.

Posted by: Wiggan | October 27, 2008 4:28 PM | Report abuse

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Old Tape of Obama Revealing His Real Thinking:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iivL4c_3pck

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Posted by: 37thandOSt | October 27, 2008 4:28 PM | Report abuse

STOP1STOP!!! For years we have give the "so call" right people the opportunity to run this country. Where are we now??? Everyone needs to be true to themselves and ask yourselves ARE You Better off Today than you were last year or the year before or as a matter of fact the last eight years. We are fighting two wars thatthere is no end in sights, our country is losing grounds amongst our counterparts. Stop being so ignorant and face reality. I don't know about you but maybe you don't own a home, have a child in college so you won't understand the full impact of tody's ecomony. Please be real, read each canditates plan and see what works better for you and STOP the MADNESS.

Posted by: melzzy103 | October 27, 2008 4:25 PM | Report abuse

king_of_zouk: Interesting post. Besides redstate.com (from where you copied your post stating that early voting in California shows Obama struggling with only a 1,000 vote lead) and some of the other conservative blogs, from what source do you get your stats regarding the number of Democrats v. the number of Republicans who have voted early in California? I cannot find any source for your California early voting stats (other than the conservative blogs, and they do not credit any source, reliable or otherwise). The fact is that, in just about every state, early voting has so far favored Senator Obama. And with Obama currently holding a double-digit lead over McCain in California, do you (or anyone else, for that matter) really believe that there's a snowball's chance in Hades that Obama is going to lose California? California is a "gimme" for Obama. The state has never been in play for McCain from day one. But if it makes you feel better to believe that McCain has a fighting chance there, so be it. In fact, I recommend that you immediately contact the McCain campaign and, as the loyal supporter of McCain that you are, insist that McCain and Palin rush to California -- IMMEDIATELY, if not sooner -- and further insist that they spend the remainder of the election there. Heck, with McCain running so close to Obama in California (at least, as far as you and redstate.com are concerned), McCain should work California hot and heavy for the next 8 days to secure those 55 electoral college votes. He'll need 'em!

Posted by: sdecker | October 27, 2008 4:23 PM | Report abuse

--"Investigate his friend REZKO who has been indicted and whose story much of America does not know.


Posted by: 37thandOSt | October 27, 2008 4:07 PM | Report abuse "--

Dude, REZKO was convicted back in June. Maybe you think there's so much media bias because you don't really read the articles. (It's those little words under the headlines. I'd suggest you read all of them.)

Posted by: DonJasper | October 27, 2008 4:22 PM | Report abuse

HUM HUM HUM!!!

Posted by: fu_buki | October 27, 2008 4:22 PM | Report abuse

37th & O Street predicted that Ted Stevens was railroaded and innocent - whoops! GUILTY!

If you had any credibility, 37th, this development wuold certainly erode it. Sorry!

Posted by: bondjedi | October 27, 2008 4:15 PM | Report abuse

LEAPIN IS UNDER FIRE.....HAHAHAAAAAAAA!

Posted by: fu_buki | October 27, 2008 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Ted Stevens is found guilty by a jury of his peers. Blame the MSM, blame socialism, blame everyone except for the most recent greedy Republican to bite the dirt.

Both sides' politicians are largely venal and dishonest, but the greed of the Republicans is a class act.

So what would Jesus do? Check his most purely political message, the Sermon on the Mount. Seems like a socialist message to me.


Posted by: shrink2 | October 27, 2008 4:14 PM | Report abuse

The sardonic subtext of the Palin presence on the McCain ticket is a message to those women who would go into politics: "I'd like to run for office but I don't have a thing to wear."

Posted by: boesc | October 27, 2008 4:14 PM | Report abuse

I think the last paragraph got cut-off Chris. It's the one were Obama says:

"The money for this half-hour prime-time buy came from a new sort of fund raising. I've already changed the way elections are run in this country. I've put lobbiest's, PAC's and the 527's out of business. From now on it's just you and me people. If you think that I've no more good ideas to improve this country, then you ain't seen nothing yet.

Good night and God Bless."

Posted by: DonJasper | October 27, 2008 4:14 PM | Report abuse

It will be interesting and fun to watch the GOP shrink to a few nativist haters, a couple of religious nuts, and the Kathryn Jean-Lopez's of the world in the next few years.


As long as the Rethuglican party continues to offer huge outsized tax breaks for the filthy rich and nothing for everyone else, the extremist nuts will be the only one's left carrying the GOPer banner after 2008.


I think it is going to be a while before we hear about the big tent Republican party.


Ladies and Germs...I give you your 2009 Republican party:


All hail the GOPer "pup tent party"!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5mdIPNB8t8
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Posted by: DrainYou | October 27, 2008 4:13 PM | Report abuse

AMERICA VOTE,VOTE OBAMA BIDEN 08...!!!

Posted by: fu_buki | October 27, 2008 4:11 PM | Report abuse

olandung tinkles:

Obama seems to have a Teflon quality because the American public is hesitant to criticize an African American. If Obama were white, he would have been crucified a long time ago.

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LOL.

If Obama were white, his lead would be double what it is today.

That he is leading at all in spite of racists like you is astonishing and history-making.

Posted by: wpost4112 | October 27, 2008 4:08 PM | Report abuse

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Let's all review how this year, not decades ago. OBAMA REFUSED TO DISAVOW Rev. Wright and his BLACK LIBERATION THEOLOGY TEACHINGS.


What is worse is that Obama exposed his children to the HATE OF BLACK LIBERATION THEOLOGY FOR YEARS.


EXPOSED HIS CHILDREN TO THAT RACIST HATE UNTIL IT BECAME POLITICALLY IMPOSSIBLE FOR OBAMA TO CONTINUE TO BRING HIS CHILDREN TO THE RACIST CHURCH !

that equals LACK OF JUDGEMENT !


IF A WHITE candidate had a similar church, the Washignton Post would be railing against that candidate.


The bias is great, the racism is unbelievable. The media has given Obama so many passes.


Then they have to go and get some FALSE CHARGES FROM DECADES AGO.


Investigate Obama and his democratic friends in Chicago.


Investigate his friend REZKO who has been indicted and whose story much of America does not know.


Investigate all the connections between Michele Obama and Farrakhan.


BE SERIOUS MEDIA.


YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING DRINKING THE KOOL-AID OF THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN TALKING POINTS AS IF IT WERE TRUTH.


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Posted by: 37thandOSt | October 27, 2008 4:07 PM | Report abuse

"Why is spreading the wealth necessary from time to time?"

Senator Obama is guilty of using a poor choice of words, which has opened the door to fearmongering and exaggeration on the part of his opponent. What Senator Obama is talking about when he says 'spread the wealth around' is not a policy of taxing the rich and sending checks to the poor. He is talking about restructuring the societal systems that cause a cycle of poverty in this country. His goal is to reduce poverty in this country by improving our citizens' educations, so they can become more productive members of society. A critical factor is ensuring that people who start life with the least are able to see a way to become productive members of society. President Bush has talked extensively about having an 'ownership society'. What Senator Obama wants to do is create paths to ownership for people who don't see such paths today. In other words, the 'redistribution of wealth' is intended to be systemic change, where people who have nothing today, have the opportunity to have something tomorrow. Its not about handouts, its about minimizing the roadblocks that exist today.

Posted by: bsimon1 | October 27, 2008 4:04 PM | Report abuse

Obama seems to have a Teflon quality because the American public is hesitant to criticize an African American. If Obama were white, he would have been crucified a long time ago.
All Obama says in his speech is empty hyperbole. And like a Gumby without integrity, he bends his words to fit what the public wants to hear, prostituting his words for a vote.
We know nothing about Obama, the only thing we know is that it is politically correct to vote for a black man and not ask questions. This need to vote for someone because of their race is an insidious and destructive form of discrimination.
But what the populous fails to consider is Obama’s past actions and associations which clearly demonstrate a hatred for this country and horrendous bad judgment. And Instead of addressing the accusations of associating with terrorist and mob members, Obama reacts like a terrorist by threatening all who dare to criticize or challenge him.
I have never given credence to the idea of an Anti-Christ, until now.

Posted by: olandug | October 27, 2008 4:04 PM | Report abuse

limpimg burps:

Free Healthcare (trillions$$$)

Free Child Care (trillions$$$)

Free Education (trillions$$$)

America’s Childish Belief in the New Santa

…Priceless

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Never-ending war (trillions$$$)

Tax free off-shore corporations and CEOs (trillions$$$)

Unregulated everything (trillions$$$)

Americans out of work, out of their homes, out of their hardearned savings.

Mindless.

Stevens found guilty! Bad omen for McCain/Palin and the entire Republican party. Good news for Ameica!

Posted by: wpost4112 | October 27, 2008 4:04 PM | Report abuse

leapin leapin!

Posted by: fu_buki | October 27, 2008 3:57 PM | Report abuse

lazerboy - Okay, now this is a test, so pay close attention. Which country has the lowest effective corporate tax rate in the world? Next question - which country has the lowest actual amount paid in corporate taxes in the world? And, finally, which country has outsourced the greatest number of jobs and the greatest number of jobs per capita? The answer in all three cases is "the U.S.". The largest 100 companies in this country paid zip, zero, none, nadda, not one dime of federal income tax last year. In fact, 80% of U.S. corporations pay NO federal income tax. Over the past 8 years, the more money corporations make, the greater the rate of outsourcing! That is, give these parasites, these treasonous jackals more money and they offshore more jobs, whole plants, technology, the works. Why? It isn't federal income taxes or corporate taxes, it is basic stuff like Workman's Comp, Social Security and Medicare and Medicaid matching funds, medical insurance, and wages that amount to more than 25 cents an hour. In other words, they move to India and China becasue they can treat employees like dogs and pay them nothing! THAT is what you are actually advocating here and we all know it.

Posted by: mibrooks27 | October 27, 2008 3:55 PM | Report abuse

Why is spreading the wealth necessary from time to time? Because wealth sometimes tends to glop up into the hands of a relative few, even though many are working hard to make money. Why not all the time? Because if wealth was spread consistently, there'd be little incentive to work or to make money. Thus, there should be a balance: in some years - say, every five to ten years - there should be a redistribution of wealth, and in other years, there should be more of a "flat" tax (that is, tax cutting for upper and middle classes). The idea is to avoid a rebellion by the poor. (Let's face it - it leads to ugly downtown buildings and a pretty draconian police force, as well as broken windows and empty neighborhoods. There's good reason to avoid pauper revolts.)

Posted by: rickyrab | October 27, 2008 3:51 PM | Report abuse

mike wrote:

My guess: The 30 minute "infomercial" will be essentially this new speech. The question is, will it be broadcast live from whereever he's giving it on Wednesday, or will it be edited/compiled from several versions given in the next two days?

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have no idea, but I have worries about this 30 minute infomercisl. It could be a good thing, giving Barack 30 minutes to clear the air and explain his vision and how his policies will effect middle America or it could be a disaster and backfire. There are lots of undecideds out there, so it's a huge gamble.

He has a history of ground-breaking decisions (race speech) but also a history of mis-steps (Hillary "likeable enough").

Will certainly be interesting, but not sure it will be game changing.


Posted by: wpost4112 | October 27, 2008 3:50 PM | Report abuse

MikeInMidland writes
"My guess: The 30 minute "infomercial" will be essentially this new speech. The question is, will it be broadcast live from whereever he's giving it on Wednesday, or will it be edited/compiled from several versions given in the next two days?"

Mike, I think we'll see similar themes, but not the same speech verbatim. I doubt the infomercial will be a live feed of a large-crowd event, but instead be a more sedate setting. The infomercial will likely be an attempt to connect one-on-one, rather than a rousing call to action, like the campaign events.

Posted by: bsimon1 | October 27, 2008 3:48 PM | Report abuse

The beauty of the current situation is that we get to see Republicans resorting to socialism to save this country from their theory of rugged individualism. I can't wait to see what happens before inauguration day, even though psychiatrists know not to be proud of Shadenfreude.

My favorite rugged individualist on the skids story is that of Col. Bo Gritz.

He who became famous for "brokering the deal" between the feds and the Ruby Ridge psycho out in Idaho a decade or so ago. All of Ted Nugent, rugged as the Marlboro Man, he shot himself when his wife got sick of his schtick and dumped him.

We are, as a matter of fact, all in this together and attachment to this fact is the only thing that makes a politician safe.


Posted by: shrink2 | October 27, 2008 3:47 PM | Report abuse

Trickle down economics absolutely works! America's wealth has been trickling (correction - "gushing") to Asian and middle-eastern countries in the form of jobs, manufacturing, dividend re-investment, oil and infrastructure development. All this inspite of ZERO taxes paid by 2/3 of the Fortune 500 companies using loopholes to erase the supposedly high "tax rate" that McCain keeps talking about - (see GAO reporting). These foreign countries then use this wealth to loan America money to buy more stuff from them.

We already have a universal healthcare system in the US! It relies on the uninsured being able to tap Emergency room care at nearly ten times the cost of preventive care and passing on those costs to tax payers driving up state budget deficits. McCain's $5000 tax credit would shift some of the burden to the Federal government.

America's future supply of oil is guaranteed!...by 130,000 troops sitting in the gulf permanently and running an off-budget tax funded cost of $150B annually. Its just another social give-away to the oil companies in the form of lives and treasure. McCain suggests new tax cuts and de-regulation to motivate companies to build 45 nuclear power plants. Not in my backyard!

Everything about these examples is due to an obsolete borrow, spend and de-regulate philosophy that McCain whole heartedly shares with Bush. His tax cuts/credits will add an addition trillion dollars of debt compared to Obama's investments (acording to tax policy center).

Ofcourse, in every other way McCain and Bush are quite different.

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Posted by: fu_buki | October 27, 2008 3:45 PM | Report abuse

After this election the GOP needs to purge the Party down to the hard core. It needs plenty of litmus tests to make sure the faithful are truly "American Republicans".

Tell the rest of those socialist commie fellow travelers to get lost. Drum them out.

Make the membership take a loyalty oath. Hunt them down if they break it.

Wouldn't you rather lose with principles than win with compromise??

Where is Joe McCarthy when you need him? Oh wait! You got Bachmann!!

heehee.

:-)

Posted by: toritto | October 27, 2008 3:45 PM | Report abuse

Free Healthcare (trillions$$$)

Free Child Care (trillions$$$)

Free Education (trillions$$$)

America’s Childish Belief in the New Santa

…Priceless

Posted by: leapin | October 27, 2008 3:45 PM | Report abuse

For the record, I'll be voting more for Biden and against McCain than either for or against Obama/Palin. I like Obama's policies in many ways, especially with respect to the economy and the infrastructure, although I am a bit concerned about how he'd "spread the wealth" (but I still think wealth-spreading is necessary from time to time, just not all the time). Palin is an okay character. She's a bit new to the game of politics. (Well, so is Obama, but at least he's had some experience with activism, so he groks politics better.) Palin, however, doesn't seem to know what she's for or against, other than being against Obama. Biden - "Amtrak Joe" - is a supporter of transit and transportation infrastructure, and so am I - which is what sold me on Obama/Biden to begin with. McCain's anti-Amtrak/ anti-transit stance is pretty well known. And when you add the fact that McCain is a bit of an oaf when it comes to handling crises, well, that just solidifies the Obama/Biden ticket in my mind. Frankly, I could care less about: Wright, Ayers, Hagee, Keating, Rezko, Vietnam, birth certificates (of either presidential candidate), ACORN, creationism, etc.

Posted by: rickyrab | October 27, 2008 3:40 PM | Report abuse

Does anybody actually comment on the article anymore??

Obama is unveiling this new speech this week. I seem to remember his campaign was buying 30 minutes of air time on several broadcast and cable stations for this Wednesday.

My guess: The 30 minute "infomercial" will be essentially this new speech. The question is, will it be broadcast live from whereever he's giving it on Wednesday, or will it be edited/compiled from several versions given in the next two days?

Posted by: mikeinmidland | October 27, 2008 3:38 PM | Report abuse

"Rather than pursue the American Dream, he insists that the American Dream has arbitrary limits, limits Obama would set for the rest of us — today it's $250,000 for businesses and even less for individuals."


May I recommend the grape flavored Kool-aid.

To all those still blathering that Obama wants to redistribute wealth and make us a Socialist state:

Obama's tax plan will return the rich to the tax rate they experienced UNDER REAGAN'S ADMINISTRATION. So are you implying that good ol' Ronnie "trickle-down" Reagan was a Socialist???

Posted by: AgnosticEngineer | October 27, 2008 3:36 PM | Report abuse

bubba burped:

It's clear that Barack Obama has been given a pass by the media and much of the public on the matter of his past associations with the likes of despicable anti-American characters such as Wright, Pfleger, Ayers,and Dohrn.

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Yeah...that 8 year old Barack was such a terror!

Turn off Rush and grow a brain.

Posted by: wpost4112 | October 27, 2008 3:35 PM | Report abuse

No country for old men! Or bimbos!

Obama/Biden 08

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Posted by: fu_buki | October 27, 2008 3:30 PM | Report abuse

Drainyou....You sir are a Maestro of posting. Your analysis is better than any of the paid shills. Bravo!
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that post was lifted from Daily Kos. Unless Drainyou is Hunter at dailykos.com

Thanks for the clarification wpost4112. I cut and paste to highlight or add commentary but always attribute my source. You folks that don't credit the original source are pretty low...Left, Right or Center

Posted by: willandjansdad1 | October 27, 2008 3:29 PM | Report abuse

A VOTE FOR MC CAIN IS THE SAME AS VOTING FOR GEORGEIE BOY FOR A THIRD TIME. I CANNOT BEAR TO THINK ANY AMERICAN CITIZEN WOULD BE SO STUPID AS TO VOTE REP. FOR THE THIRD TIME, AND NOT UNDERSTAND THE CONSEQUENCE OF SUCH A HORRIBLE FATE FOR THE USA.

A VOTE FOR OBAMA IS OUR ALTERNATIVE AND HOPE FOR THE FUTURE OF THE GENERATIONS TO COME!

WHICHEVER CANDIDATE BECOMES OUR NEXT PRESIDENT, TEARS (ON THE 4 OF nOV) WILL FLOW LIKE WINE!!!

FOR MCCAIN THE TEARS WILL BE TEARS OF SORROW

FOR OBOMA THE TEARS WILL BE OF JOY AND HOPE!! PUT UP THE SAND BAGS - LOOKS LIKE OBAMA WILL HAVE TO PADDLE HIS WAY TO THE WHITE HOUSE!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: LOONYBIN2000 | October 27, 2008 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Ah, and for those who would like to throw around the term "socialism," explain to me how the purchasing of preferred shares in banks by the federal government...therefore assuming partial ownership...is not "socialism." Do you really, truly, honestly believe that Barak Obama is a socialist? And do you really, truly, honestly believe that every government in the world does not implement some form of "socialism"?

John McCain is a patriot. He has served our country nobly for many years. I wish him a long and happy life and many more years in the U.S. Senate. I don't think he is the right person to be president and I am not going to vote for him. But he's not some kind of boogyman who I have to pin sweeping and inaccurate labels on to justify my support of his opponent.

Posted by: ABitOffsides | October 27, 2008 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Why is Texas such a red state anyhow? Could it be because there's no life in Texas downtowns? Because of the lack of activity in many Texas medium city downtown areas, Texans need to find other places to socialize. One such community center is the local church. BINGO!

(Of course, feel free to prove me wrong)

Posted by: rickyrab | October 27, 2008 3:26 PM | Report abuse

It's clear that Barack Obama has been given a pass by the media and much of the public on the matter of his past associations with the likes of despicable anti-American characters such as Wright, Pfleger, Ayers,and Dohrn. But he has not relieved lingering concerns of some over these influences upon his character and ideology. I hope we are wrong in our apprehensions. If not, we will learn the folly of having failed to insist upon the knowledge we should have been given.

Posted by: bubba31138 | October 27, 2008 3:25 PM | Report abuse

From the Sunday Telegraph/ UK

Jim Nuzzo, a White House aide to the first President Bush, dismissed Mrs Palin's critics as "cocktail party conservatives" who "give aid and comfort to the enemy".
He told The Sunday Telegraph: "There's going to be a bloodbath. A lot of people are going to be excommunicated. The litmus test will be: where did you stand on Palin?"

Keep talkin' that crazy talk Nuzzo. Sarah Palin is crazier than a racoon in a shoebox. She brings out the "tin-foil fedora" wing of the GOP. Nothing will dig the GOP a more bottomless pit than elevating Mosselini to "Standard Bearer" status. To an old blue-collar socialist like me, these are heady times.

Posted by: willandjansdad1 | October 27, 2008 3:22 PM | Report abuse

dull razor blurts:

HOwever wrong on his impression. George W. Bush was the President we needed in 2000, not Al Gore. Al Gore would not have been able to deal with Al-Qiada the way they needed to be dealt with at that time.

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What, intelligently?

America needed Bush as much as New Orleans needed Brownie.

Posted by: wpost4112 | October 27, 2008 3:19 PM | Report abuse

Probably fiction: "Democrats are only leading in early voting in California by 1000 votes!"

Fact: In California, voters in 51 of the state’s 58 counties have cast almost 2 million votes, but those aren’t reported by party registration. Note: Republicans do tend to have a higher rate of voting and do tend to vote earlier than Democrats, but the statistics would be a bit of an anomaly for California early voting if true. If so, such a statistic would likely be due to the Proposition 8 battle, more than the presidential election; however, I doubt that it's the case.

Posted by: rickyrab | October 27, 2008 3:18 PM | Report abuse

Our economy is structurally sound for the long term"
George W Bush - Feb 11, 2008


"The American people can remain confident in the soundness and the resilience of our financial system"
Henry Paulson - Sept 15, 2008


"The economy is fundamentally sound"
Herbert Hoover - October, 1931


"The fundamentals of our economy are strong"
John McCain - Sept 15, 2008
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McCain does not have the ability to fix this economic crisis. After declaring the fundamentals of the economy strong, he created a political circus in Washington last week by mucking up bailout negotiations; a deplorable stunt, considering he and his political cronies helped cause the current meltdown.


It was McCain and his economic adviser Phil Gramm who pushed for the deregulation that helped lead to the banking crisis, and it was McCain's crony Rick Davis who had deep lobbyist ties to Freddie Mac. Don't let others be fooled by McCain's economic grandstanding because the reality is his policies and principles will only exacerbate our financial hardships.


McCain is being deceitful with his sudden populist message and support for regulation; his economic policies still favor our nation's wealthy elite.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4egXbhSOhk
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Posted by: DrainYou | October 27, 2008 3:17 PM | Report abuse

Yes DDAWD and there is also a difference between voting with the party and being a mouthpiece for its PAC. The difference may seem slight, but it speaks to authenticity.

McCain's rejection of the D sponsored GI bill and his support for the Bush tax cuts for the rich as the center of his economic recovery plan are astonishing.

Sure Barak Obama is Left of Center. But where the heck is McCain? He can not sell himself as the antidote to the Bush poison and still be a lapdog for the RNC. Kinda like Howard Dean's candidacy, no one wants a party hack.

But maybe there is no way he could have won. For example, out here in Cascadia, a complete idiot named Jeff Merkley might beat Gordon Smith, one of the (gulp, dare I say it?) best Republican Senators there are.


Posted by: shrink2 | October 27, 2008 3:14 PM | Report abuse

He is absolutely right. HOwever wrong on his impression. George W. Bush was the President we needed in 2000, not Al Gore. Al Gore would not have been able to deal with Al-Qiada the way they needed to be dealt with at that time. However, George W. Bush was NOT the President we needed in 2004. Unfortunately, neither was John Kerry. Exit polls support that. More people said they voted against a candidate in 2004 than for one.

Posted by: akmzrazor | October 27, 2008 3:12 PM | Report abuse

Obama is like Lincoln both in his intelligence and his pragmatic pproach to the current crisis facing America. Obama's steadiness during the campaign demonstrated his true leadership and rational judgment. McCain like Bush is another hot dog fighter pilot and not a leader in the true sense of the word. As McCain has done the entire campaign, he continued to try to drop dirty bombs from 30,000 feet, but never hit the target with the American voter. Obama will best be able to build a working coalition and consensus on restoring the economy much like Lincoln was able to build a coaltion government to fight slavery and the successionists southern states. The American public can not afford another four years of a my way or the highway presidency. Vote Obama for America and our childrens future.

Posted by: evandoMissouri | October 27, 2008 3:10 PM | Report abuse

I will tell my daughter. No, honey I didn’t vote for the socialist dictator. No, there is nothing we can do about it now because we are totally dependent on the government for everything. They punitively taxed us and confiscated our 401K’s. We can no longer protest. We are totally dependent. But remember honey I wasn’t one who voted for him.
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That's cool because here's what I told my niece a couple of years ago: "I didn't vote for him either time. So, yes, even though I didn't say anything while he got us into a war that was unnecessary, sacrificed the lives thousands of brave Americans and tens of thousands of innocent civilians, oversaw the spending of more money than any administration ever, chipped away at our civil liberties, took us into debt so deep you're going to paying for it, and was neither 'compassionate' or a 'uniter', it's not my fault. Oh, and I'm sure history will prove him right and show that everyone who disagreed with his policies were either unpatriotic, elitist, short-sighted or ignorant."

She looked at me and said "I'm this many. Wanna play bake sale?"

Posted by: ABitOffsides | October 27, 2008 3:08 PM | Report abuse

"Barack Obama left Chicago as unfinished business. He pulled out of Chicago before the winning the war on streets and violent crime."

Oh, so he was the Chief of Police. No? District attorney. No? Mayor! No? Umm...

I hear that Christie Todd Whitman pulled out of Washington before winning the war on terror, too.

BB

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | October 27, 2008 3:07 PM | Report abuse

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
OBAMA BIDEN 08...!!!

Posted by: fu_buki | October 27, 2008 3:07 PM | Report abuse

If Obama is wrong, then I don't wana be Right.

Posted by: nezbangi | October 27, 2008 3:05 PM | Report abuse

Drainyou....You sir are a Maestro of posting. Your analysis is better than any of the paid shills. Bravo!


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that post was lifted from Daily Kos. Unless Drainyou is Hunter at dailykos.com

Posted by: wpost4112 | October 27, 2008 3:05 PM | Report abuse

I will tell my daughter. Yes, honey I did vote for Obama. Yes, there is hope now because we are not totally dependent on the top 5% of the nation that screw us for the last 8 years. They punitively took billions of dollars from our taxpayers because they needed to protect their membership to Billionnaires Club . They are full of rage because Obama will make sure that their Wall Street Gambling addiction will affect none but themselves and we do not have to pay a price for their stupidity. We are totally free at last from corrupt warmongers cabals Neocons fundamentalist extremists Dudes and Marvericks. And remember honey I hope you will vote too for someone with substance not gimmicks.
We already had 8 years of these gimmicks and enough is enough for those that are trying to insult our intelligence.
OBAMA/BIDEN 2008

Posted by: 1Nouri | October 27, 2008 3:05 PM | Report abuse

I will tell my daughter. Yes, honey I did vote for Obama. Yes, there is hope now because we are not totally dependent on the top 5% of the nation that screw us for the last 8 years. They punitively took billions of dollars from our taxpayers because they needed to protect their membership to Billionnaires Club . They are full of rage because Obama will make sure that their Wall Street Gambling addiction will affect none but themselves and we do not have to pay a price for their stupidity. We are totally free at last from corrupt warmongers cabals Neocons fundamentalist extremists Dudes and Marvericks. And remember honey I hope you will vote too for someone with substance not gimmicks.
We already had 8 years of these gimmicks and enough is enough for those that are trying to insult our intelligence.
OBAMA/BIDEN 2008

Posted by: 1Nouri | October 27, 2008 3:02 PM | Report abuse

Drainyou....You sir are a Maestro of posting. Your analysis is better than any of the paid shills. Bravo!

Posted by: willandjansdad1 | October 27, 2008 2:58 PM | Report abuse

Leapin's entry here is sad. She forgets that her 401K was "confiscated" by Bush and the Republican free market, no regulation folks. She has no idea what socialism is or is not. And, it is pointless to explain it to her because she has a closed mind.

Posted by: pbarnett52 | October 27, 2008 2:58 PM | Report abuse

"The candidate often bemoans the media asking silly and superficial questions..."

And that would be copied from McCain blogs by Zouk. This is kinda fun!

BB

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | October 27, 2008 2:55 PM | Report abuse

OMG!
I can't hear that old man rat voice anymore
(MCCAIN),WITH PALIN MOOSE VOICE. IRRITATING PEOPLE,those two IMBECILES.


AMERICA VOTE,VOTE FOR OBAMA BIDEN 08...!!!


NETHERLANDS ANTILLES

Posted by: fu_buki | October 27, 2008 2:52 PM | Report abuse

REJECT OBAMA - PULL OUT OF CHICAGO!

Questionable, inexperienced Obama = High Stakes
Obama = Left an unfinished dangerous city
Obama = Clone of Chicago politicians.
Obama = Risky

Checking the Chicago murder rate for 2008. You would be safer in Iraq then in Chicago.

Over 430+(one more little victim today) people have been murdered in Chicago. 380 have died in Iraq in 2008.

Barack Obama left Chicago as unfinished business. He pulled out of Chicago before the winning the war on streets and violent crime.

Do not vote for Obama unless you want all of our cities war zones. Another note, Might Oprah spend a bit more of her millions on the children of Chicago. Charity begins at home.

Watching how the big money, greased politicians, organized crime and gang thuggerie rule in Chicago. It is a forewarning of what will happen when this novice, windbag of the windy city gets loose.

Don't believe him. He is not qualified to run Chicago, let alone a Jiffy Lube, What the hell are you people thinking??? He comes from the murder Capital of the country.

God help those innocent, trusting, blind sheep who would waste their precious right to vote on him

Vote McCain/Palin if you want a chance at stopping the advance to socialism.

Oregon Mom

Posted by: epicwolf1 | October 27, 2008 2:52 PM | Report abuse

Leapin wrote...

"They punitively taxed us and confiscated our 401K’s."

Leapin...I've been paying the GOP tax on my 401K for about a month now and they took 50% of it's value.

Posted by: willandjansdad1 | October 27, 2008 2:51 PM | Report abuse

Regarding the radio interview "There's a long story on this in Politico. The interviews are from 2001, he's speaking legalese with a panel of three other lawyers and talking about civil rights and funding schools, not taxes. And incidentally, he's taking the conservative side that there was too much reliance on the courts. He thought it would be better if the advances were more legislative. (That is where the quote comes from -- he says that the courts have no legal standing to redistribute for schools, so he thinks those should be legislative initiatives instead of lawsuits.)"

Posted by: jolu32339 | October 27, 2008 2:51 PM | Report abuse

limping cried:

I will tell my daughter. No, honey I didn’t vote for the socialist dictator.

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Don't worry. She'll outgrow your ignorance.

Posted by: wpost4112 | October 27, 2008 2:51 PM | Report abuse

Did BO release his GPA's or grades yet? He and his fans like to hold his intelligence over us. What are the stats?

Posted by: leapin | October 27, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse

I will tell my daughter. No, honey I didn’t vote for the socialist dictator. No, there is nothing we can do about it now because we are totally dependent on the government for everything. They punitively taxed us and confiscated our 401K’s. We can no longer protest. We are totally dependent. But remember honey I wasn’t one who voted for him.

Posted by: leapin | October 27, 2008 2:46 PM | Report abuse

"That said, Sen Obama doesn't exactly scream "stalwart individualist." The Washington Post itself will show you that one of the few senators who more a party man than Sen Obama is his running mate."

I think independence from party is more of a function of the party affiliation of the state more than anything else. At the top of the list, you see all the Dems in blue states such as NY, Washington, Illinois and at the bottom, you see the two Republican Senators in Maine. (Yes, there are some exceptions, the two Alaska Republicans seem to buck their party with some regularity, but don't forget how bad it is to be a Republican now)

Posted by: DDAWD | October 27, 2008 2:43 PM | Report abuse

I will tell my daughter. No, honey I didn’t vote for the socialist dictator. No, there is nothing we can do about it now because we are totally dependent on the government for everything. They punitively taxed us and confiscated our 401K’s. We can no longer protest. We are totally dependent. But remember honey I wasn’t one who voted for him.

Posted by: leapin | October 27, 2008 2:42 PM | Report abuse

Hard to imagine that McCain wouldn't have done better with somebody other than Palin. But he's a gambler, isn't he? The sort of guy who has a craps table sent to his suite at the Bellagio. In that sense, the choice was entirely consistent with his character.

As is his consistent refusal to question it. Never admits he's wrong. About anything. Give him half a chance, he'll bend your ear on how we could have achieved 'victory' in Vietnam.

In that respect, he and Palin really are soulmates. She never admits error, either.

McCain's attractive to independents, even conservative Democrats. He's NOT attractive to the GOP base, particularly two key elements of the Bush coalition -- evangelicals and neoconservatives (Limbaugh listeners). Palin was supposed to heal both those wounds. And she did.

But in the process, lost those precious independents. Pawlenty wouldn't have. Neither would Romney. But they wouldn't have drawn the fervor from the base.

Palin did indeed energize the base. Unfortunately for McCain, it was the Democratic base.

The GOP can't be all that disappointed. They really did screw up the country, even if they'll never admit it. And now they've managed to push the mess off into the Democrats' lap.

Pretty slick, if you think about it. Don't worry about the GOP fading from sight. Somewhere, probably in a suite at the Bellagio, they're planning their next war...

Posted by: Samson151 | October 27, 2008 2:42 PM | Report abuse

wpost - sorry for repeating your post. I'd started my latest Where's Waldo('s source)? hunt and got distracted. I'm still awaiting an original thought from Zouk.

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no problem...but don't wait too long...zouk never strays from Ron Christie's lap.

But, as St Benedict wrote, every community needs an irritant. Zouk is playing his role perfectly.

Posted by: wpost4112 | October 27, 2008 2:42 PM | Report abuse

Despite all predictions, this election is not, in fact, about Bush. He's a non-entity in it all.

That's fairly remarkable. And against the odds, the McCain/Palin campaign has managed to suck entirely on its own. Sure, the Democrats wanted to paint McCain (accurately, when it comes to nearly all actual policy positions) as the second coming of Bush. But McCain resisted the label, and instead found ways to suck that were completely independent of his ties to Bush.

McCain: He's terrible at giving speeches, yes. His policies are dismal, and more to the point are badly elucidated -- when he's willing to talk about them at all. We know he's for the Iraq War: we don't know anything he intends to do differently, except do more of it and presume it'll all work out this time around. His choice of Palin for the number two spot was, from the standpoint of anyone not a hardcore conservative, bizarre, and smacked of the erratic, shoot-from-the-hip nature of decision making that his past detractors had warned of. His campaign managers have been vitriolic towards the press, and dismissive of the public, and as erratic as their own candidate. His vaunted surrogates have played a round-robin game of publicly humiliating themselves and their candidate (attaching himself to Phil Gramm, noted hellspawn of all that is economically manipulative and devastating, was an inspired touch.) And his behavior during this economic crisis -- making a show of tooling down to Washington to "solve" things, and having his party dissolve into chaos around him, and then rejoining his campaign with nothing "solved" at all, and things in fact much, much worse, and looking for all the world like a man who has just been pied in the face by circumstance -- has been a complete and very public fiasco. He has done his very best to manage to convince everyone that he is, in fact, not anything like presidential material. He's never looked less presidential.

Oh -- and his more impromptu surrogates, people like "Joe the Plumber" and "Tape #254 Of Sarah Palin Saying Something Crazy" and "Campaign Supporter Not Really Attacked At ATM" have added a burnt-popcorn, sideshow quality to the campaign. That hasn't helped.

So... congratulations to McCain, I guess. He managed to do the seemingly impossible -- be trailing in the election not because people were deathly tired of George W. Bush and didn't want anything to do with his party, but because people are deathly tired of John McCain, as well. And I think the award needs to be shared communally, because at all levels of the Republican Party, candidates seem to be going out of their way to make themselves similarly dislikable, out of touch, or (and this is the favorite approach) be ranting with such gusto about the incipient socialism if any of you poor cretins out there dare get better healthcare or a more stable economy that they seem, to be blunt, f---ing nuts.
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Posted by: DrainYou | October 27, 2008 2:42 PM | Report abuse

SEN. OBAMA PROMISES CHANGE, BUT THE CHANGE HE PROMISES IS NOT THE CHANGE AMERICANS WANT.

* He wants to raise tax on big businesses. This will force businesses (along with jobs) to go to nations with less tax penalty. Besides consumers would end up paying this tax penalty anyway.

* He is promising Democratic, Nancy Pelosi, Barney franks and Chris Dodd economic policies. Guess what? This is the same economic policy that has gotten us in this financial institution mess.

* He is promising isolationist trade policies. If this is true, then who will buy American goods? Also, poor Americans will end up having to pay high price for American goods.

* He wants to make America energy independent without offshore drilling and no new nuclear power plant. This idea is totally impractical.

SUMMARY, IF SEN. OBAMA BECOMES PRESIDENT, WE WOULD HEAD INTO A DEPRESSION WITH HIS POPULIST IMPRACTICAL ECONOMIC POLICIES.

Posted by: lazerboy | October 27, 2008 2:39 PM | Report abuse

No questions, we're libs:

Obama Shuns Press Conferences, Sits With 'EXTRA!'s' Mario Lopez
October 26, 2008 6:56 PM

On Oct. 24, 2007, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., said that as president he would hold regular press conferences and "not just call on my four favorite reporters."

But the Democratic presidential nominee hasn't held a full press conference -- submitting himself to more than a handful of questions from his whole press corps -- in more than a month, since Sept. 24, 2008, in Clearwater, Fla.

The candidate often bemoans the media asking silly and superficial questions. The media isn't focused on the important issues facing the nation, he complains.

On Saturday in Nevada, Obama sat for an exclusive interview with Mario Lopez, the actor who played "A.C. Slater" on "Saved by the Bell," to air on the TV show "EXTRA!"

the last thing Obambi needs is to have to explain something.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | October 27, 2008 2:36 PM | Report abuse

GnuBeck blathers:

Obama exposed.

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The only thing exposed is the echoing canyon of your skull.

My mother watches Faux News, O'Reilly and Hannity, says Barack is a Muslin and won't vote for any black man.

She "Was the dominant figure in my formative years; and, the values she taught me continue to be my touchstone in the world of politics."

But we now disagree entirely on how those values are expressed concretely.

Your argument is as empty as your brain. Turn off Beck at al and reclaim your brain cells.

Posted by: wpost4112 | October 27, 2008 2:36 PM | Report abuse

"Well, here comes David Frum, a Republican conservative mouthpiece, stating that Sarah Palin will become the most popular Republican."

Well, today's American Republicans are the same element as the scared, narrow-minded, racist, under-developed, and of course "uber-patriotisch" burghers that elected Hitler. They always need their little fuhrer. The epic of
Sarah and Tod Palin in a menage a trois with Joe the Plumber and with McSchmendrick observing the scene from above with a fatherly smile.

Posted by: VMR1 | October 27, 2008 2:35 PM | Report abuse

Wpost drools:

several analysts have commented that historically, republicans always vote in larger numbers.

He neglects to mention that the "analysts" are Keith Olbermann and Barbera Streisand.

RCP poll:

released today:

Mac 43.3 Obambi 46.5 undecided/not sold on messianic suicide 10.1%

Yesterday:

Mac 41.9 Obambi 45.8 undecided voters who won't drink the Obama kool aid 12.2%

analysis the voters who decided went 1.45% to Mac and 0.7 to Obambi

If this trend continues or magnifies, the remaining ten percent undecided will break to Mac and overcome the paltry 4% spread.

Poor, poor messiah. to have come so close to his first actual accomplishment and fallen short. but then, that is the story of his life.

Question, when you Libs riot, will you burn down your own neighborhood again? since you aren't paying your mortgage anyway, what's the difference? Only one problem, the check from Obama will not be in the mail. Get a job instead. ACORN doesn't count. Everyone knows community organizer is just a joke profession for those lost souls who can't quite find the communist manifesto.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | October 27, 2008 2:34 PM | Report abuse

I want to personally thank each and every one of you who use Caps Lock when you post. It makes it so much easier avoid reading your bats*&t crazy rant and to move onto the next post.

Posted by: arielpoly | October 27, 2008 2:34 PM | Report abuse

wpost - sorry for repeating your post. I'd started my latest Where's Waldo('s source)? hunt and got distracted. I'm still awaiting an original thought from Zouk.

alkuth - Give Zouk credit for that one. He's actually parodying Biden, who called JOBS a 3 letter word.

BB

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | October 27, 2008 2:33 PM | Report abuse

"North Carolina: 56% D, 27% R.
Iowa: 51% D, 31% R.
New Mexico: 69% D, 31% R.
Nevada: 56% D, 28% R.
Florida: 42% D, 42% R."

Where did you get these numbers from? Can I find all early voting results?

Posted by: DDAWD | October 27, 2008 2:33 PM | Report abuse

Mark - I think you're right that any government expenditure will have a redistributive effect. Excepting military personnel salaries, defense spending probably has a regressive effect as money is going to industries with highly paid people. Likewise crop subsidies. AFDC, EIC and others are probably progressive. Social security is tricky as poverty amongst the elderly was one endemic. Now, the 65+ demographic is likely to be better off than average.

Ultimately, I take it as decide what the priorities are, how to pay for them, and then do so. Deficit spending, with limited exceptions, is the most regressive tax of all.

BB

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And the latest post from Zouk would be copied from redalert, posting on redstate.com. The least you could do is cite your sources. For someone posting about the media lying, you have cavalier attitudes about plagiarism.

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | October 27, 2008 2:29 PM | Report abuse

Have to agree with shrink2 to a degree. What was attractive about Sen McCain before was that he really was an alternative to a republican choice. Though, he had to move more to the base once he became the GOP nominee; that's just the nature of the game. Of course, the nature of the game is also to do it a little more gracefully. He didn't. That's why his campaign is kind of a crap salad right now.
That said, Sen Obama doesn't exactly scream "stalwart individualist." The Washington Post itself will show you that one of the few senators who more a party man than Sen Obama is his running mate.

http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/110/senate/party-voters/

Posted by: Squatty_HJ | October 27, 2008 2:26 PM | Report abuse

Early voters.

North Carolina: 56% D, 27% R.
Iowa: 51% D, 31% R.
New Mexico: 69% D, 31% R.
Nevada: 56% D, 28% R.
Florida: 42% D, 42% R.

Given R's have historically voted early in larger numbers, none of this bodes well for McCain.

Posted by: wpost4112 | October 27, 2008 2:26 PM | Report abuse

I can't hear that old rat voice anymore MCCAIN SAYS" MY FRIENDS" LIER!

AMERICA VOTE, VOTE OBAMA BIDEN 08...!!!

NETHERLANDS ANTILLES

Posted by: fu_buki | October 27, 2008 2:26 PM | Report abuse

Obama exposed. Obama, whose father was born into privilege, served as the Senior Economist for a corrupt Kenyan Government; and, advocated a "100% taxation and repossession of land and property against the will of the rightful owner". An ideology that some call Communism. His mother was a radical Marxist. These facts are material since Obama has stated that his mother: "Was the dominant figure in my formative years; and, the values she taught me continue to be my touchstone in the world of politics". -AND- “It was into my father’s image . . . that I’d packed all the attributes I sought in myself.” Common sense deductive reasoning suggests that Obama's rearing as a child, and his extended 20yr relationships, and obvious conformity, with anti-American fanatics such as Rev. Wright ( the Pastor of his church that promoted the doctrine of Louis Farrakhan and James Cone, the guru of Black Liberation Theology ) ; and, Frank Davis, William Ayers, Gerald Kellman ( a Saul Alinsky protege' who hired Obama as a community organizer), Bernadette Dohrn, Khalid al-Mansour, etc., etc., are in fact reflective of Obama's true psychological makeup. A conclusion rigidly re-enforced by Obama's San Francisco commentary denigrating folks from small-town America. Obama's affinity for questionable associates such as Tony Rezco, a convicted felon, raises a myriad of questions. Further, his increasingly frequent petulant responses to legitimate criticism is troubling. This man's initial refusal to wear an American flag lapel pin and to place his hand over his heart on the singing of our National Anthem are conditioned reflexes from his protracted association with disaffected elements in our society; visual images that Obama is certain to attempt to obfuscate in future campaign appearances; even though, he has openly admitted: "I didn't want to offend Muslims and others who don't like America.". Obama is our "home-grown" version of Hugo Chavez. Further, Michelle Obama's angry commentary directed at our country is telling. Fifty-seven (Islamic) State Obama's comments that he would use U.S. Military Forces against Pakistan, a Nation with a sizable nuclear arsenal, and an ally in the war on terror, even without President Musharraf's permission; a Nation that he mistakenly believed to be Arab; his indecision/confusion as to whether Iran poses a serious regional threat; while in other commentary, stating that he would halt the U.S. military's development of advanced weapons systems; and, drastically reduce our military force structure, demonstrates a profound ignorance of the geopolitical threat environment confronting America. His long-term subversive associations; his immersion in seditious anti-American diatribe; and, enormous sums of money flowing in from overseas have indeed revealed Obama as the real-life Manchurian Candidate. Greg Neubeck

Posted by: gneubeck | October 27, 2008 2:25 PM | Report abuse

Isn't JOBS a 4-letter word? I mean, I'm not math whiz like kingofzouk, but let me take a crack at this.

J (1)
O (2)
B (3)
S (4)

Just checking. Because I like results that can be replicated, I encourage others to check my math.

Posted by: alkuth | October 27, 2008 2:24 PM | Report abuse

KOZ sputtered:

But then again, you think that raising taxes leads to prosperity and that dreaded three letter word - JOBS
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ummm, forgive me if I missed out on this in math class, but isn't JOBS a four letter word?

Posted by: pete1013 | October 27, 2008 2:23 PM | Report abuse

This probably speaks to my viewing habits more than anything, but from my Wisconsin couch the only ad more prevalent Sunday than Obama's McCain=Bush ad was the Domino's sandwich ad. The NFC central division had a bye Sunday, so the northern swing states had no reason to watch tv, but Obama needs to rotate the ads. I was damn near tempted to go outside and play in the snow storm.

Posted by: caribis | October 27, 2008 2:23 PM | Report abuse

According to John McCain and Sarah Palin I am not a real American. I live in communist Northern Virginia. I may be a veteran but I don't buy into the Iraq war so I can not be a patriot. I don't always wear an American flag on my lapel pin. However, I can still vote, at least in this election. And I am going to do all I can to ensure that these facist Eugene McCathy look alikes don't get to disenfranchise the majority of Americans who don't agree with their philosophy and policies. Obama is smarter and more talented than McCain by far. If you want a measure of how these two men compare take a look at their campaigns. Obama has run a flawless campaign. McCain not so much. Obama has not allowed McCain to get into his head even though he has been under constant attack and called every dirty name in the book. Obama has stayed focused on the important issues. In short, Obama has done everything I would want from my president. McCain is a mean spirited old man who will give us 4 more years of George Bush.

Posted by: cdierd1944 | October 27, 2008 2:20 PM | Report abuse

The "king of zouk" post is lying and probably is a troll.

I live in California and have voted by mail. People in California could vote early by either mail or in person at particular county sites. We could do that since Oct. 7th. The numbers he quotes are just not true. 20% of our electorate have voted through early voting. People here expect 50% of the electorate will vote by Friday. Close to a million people have voted. The percentage that this person talks about is just made up and the numbers follow the state poll, not the national poll.

Posted by: lucy2008 | October 27, 2008 2:20 PM | Report abuse

Down in the polls, John McCain's Divide & Flail™ strategy is to call Barack Obama's tax cut for 95% of Americans "socialism."


Well, McCain must have once been a socialist, because it turns out that for years he supported higher taxes on the wealthy to pay for lower taxes on the middle-class.


The YouTube don't lie, McCain:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8EyGpOU3qM
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Posted by: DrainYou | October 27, 2008 2:20 PM | Report abuse

zouk cackles:
In the most liberal state in the entire country,the results are that 99,000 Republicans have voted and 96,000 Democrats voted.

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Regarding early voting, several analysts have commented that historically, republicans always vote in larger numbers. The fact that Dems are matching them in early voting this year portends badly for McCain.

Posted by: wpost4112 | October 27, 2008 2:18 PM | Report abuse

wpost spews -
math is not my strong subject. I prefer chanting. It matches my intellectual make-up.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Perhaps you should consult some math books. Bayes theory demands that historical precedent be accomodated. there may be some changes in this election, but the underlying metric is number of voters who are either R or D as the metric for success.

But then again, you think that raising taxes leads to prosperity and that dreaded three letter word - JOBS

Posted by: king_of_zouk | October 27, 2008 2:14 PM | Report abuse

In a twisted sort of way I almost want McCain to win this election because four more years worth of failed Bush/McCain policies would for all intents and purposes be the end of the Republican party as we know it today. They would become the 4th party gadflies that they deserve to be.

The only question is, would this country survive it?

You people out there who live in economic downtrodden states like Ohio, West Virgina and Pa etc, if you are stupid enough to vote for McCain you will deserve every single bit of economic hardship that a McCain presidency will give you.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxT0s_I5WtA
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Posted by: DrainYou | October 27, 2008 2:12 PM | Report abuse

AMERICA! VOTE FOR OBAMA BIDEN 08...!!!


NETHERLANDS ANTILLES

Posted by: fu_buki | October 27, 2008 2:09 PM | Report abuse

Zouk parrots from Red State:

The results are simply shocking. The polls showed Barack Obama with an 18 point lead in California just a few days ago. The results thus far are the complete opposite. In the most liberal state in the entire country,the results are that 99,000 Republicans have voted and 96,000 Democrats voted. In the mail-in balloting the results so far are that 9,000 Democrats sent in their ballots and that 5,000 Republicans did so. So with nearly 210,000 people having voted,the Democrats have only a 1,000 vote advantage !

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But your conclusion is not necessarily valid. That are lots of possible reasons for the early voting numbers which may bear no relation to actual vote count on Nov 4.

But hyperventilate on...or, perhaps more accurately, continue to crib other's hyperventilating, as you have done here.

Posted by: wpost4112 | October 27, 2008 2:08 PM | Report abuse

This has been a great, well-articulated and well-managed campaign by Senator Obama. Watching him throughout the primary and general presidential election he has convinced me- and I didn't vote for him in the primary. I voted for Senator Obama today.

He is a smart man and a brilliant politician and constitutional scholar. His policies fit me, a working mother and small business owner. I am a social libertarian and his policies fit me and I think fit a diverse country. This fits our constitution and separation of Church and State. I am a capitalist but with the view to put a harness on that spirit and take it where you want it to go- not outside our country, but inside. No transfer of "energy wealth" but keep it here. Use our people for our own people for our services here in this country (education, childcare, health, fire, police, library service, transportation, communication)and do not transfer the wealth externally. Protect and manage our environmental basic resources - that are ours as a nation- from abuse. Protect and manage them for our children and grandchildren. Encouraging capitalism to serve the spirit of our people- each one and their own business and creative energy and work ethic is good. Democrats do promote business but shouldn't be owned by them.

Posted by: lucy2008 | October 27, 2008 2:07 PM | Report abuse

T E L E P R O M P T E R

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Posted by: RaZoR777 | October 27, 2008 2:06 PM | Report abuse

California has begun early voting already as well as mail-in balloting. The number of people who have gone in to vote in person has been extensive. The results so far prove what we had always suspected. The polls are being proven as totally unreliable. Although the results of early balloting have not been disclosed,of course,how many Republicans and how many Democrats have voted has been revealed.

The results are simply shocking. The polls showed Barack Obama with an 18 point lead in California just a few days ago. The results thus far are the complete opposite. In the most liberal state in the entire country,the results are that 99,000 Republicans have voted and 96,000 Democrats voted. In the mail-in balloting the results so far are that 9,000 Democrats sent in their ballots and that 5,000 Republicans did so. So with nearly 210,000 people having voted,the Democrats have only a 1,000 vote advantage !


The media is lying - still!!!

Posted by: king_of_zouk | October 27, 2008 2:00 PM | Report abuse

MCCAIN IS OUT OF TOUCH WITH MIDDLE-CLASS AMERICA'S ECONOMIC TROUBLES! McCain in April 08 declared that there had been "great progress economically" during the Bush years. On more than one occasion, he diagnosed Americans' concerns over the dismal U.S. economy as "psychological." (Phil Gramm, McCain's close friend and economic adviser supposedly excommunicated over his "whiners" remarks, is back with the McCain campaign full time again.) McCain, a man who owns eight homes nationwide, in March lectured Americans facing foreclosure that they ought to be "doing what is necessary -- working a second job, skipping a vacation, and managing their budgets -- to make their payments on time." And when all else fails, McCain told the people of the economically devastated regions in Martin County, Kentucky and Youngstown, Ohio, there's always eBay. McCain doesn't understand our tanking economy because it doesn't affect him.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZxIYTEDARU

The $100 Million Man:
Courtesy of his wife Cindy's beer distribution fortune (one her late father apparently chose not to share with her half-sister Kathleen), the McCains are worth well over $100 million. (In the two-page tax summary she eventually released to the public, Cindy McCain reported another $6 million in 2006.) As Salon reported back in 2000, the second Mrs. McCain's millions were essential in launching her husband's political career. Unsurprisingly, the Weekly Standard's Matthew Continetti, who four years ago called Theresa Heinz-Kerry a "sugar mommy," has been silent on the topic of Cindy McCain.

The Joys of (Eight) Home Ownership:
While fellow adulterer John Edwards was pilloried for his mansion, John McCain's eight homes around the country have received little notice or criticism. His properties include a 10 acre lake-side Sedona estate, euphemistically called a "cabin" by the McCain campaign, and a home featured in Architectural Digest. The one featuring "remote control window coverings" was recently put up for sale. Still, their formidable resources did not prevent the McCains from failing to pay taxes on a tony La Jolla, California condo used by Cindy's aged aunt.

The Anheuser-Busch Windfall:
While John McCain played a critical role in facilitating DHL's takeover of Airborne (and with it, the looming loss of 8,000 jobs in Wilmington, Ohio), Cindy McCain is set to earn a staggering multi-million dollar pay-day from the acquisition of Anheuser-Busch by the Belgian beverage giant, In Bev. As the Wall Street Journal reported in July, Mrs. McCain runs the third largest Anheuser-Busch distributorship in the nation, and owns between $2.5 and $5 million in the company's stock.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ek3jAkx9m10
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Posted by: DrainYou | October 27, 2008 1:59 PM | Report abuse

www.palinaspresident.us

'Nuff said.

Posted by: hiberniantears | October 27, 2008 1:57 PM | Report abuse

One of the reasons McCain will lose is the fact that he gave his campaign over to the Republican National Committee.

Obama stayed himself throughout, he is not a DNC mouthpiece. McCain?

You can not run as the antidote to Bush when everything you do and say in the campaign appears identical to that done and said by Bush v Gore and Kerry.

No one thinks the Republicans are thrifty with tax dollars or are friends of the working people anymore. I just wonder why they ever did believe it. Nothing has changed, but somehow, the Republican/Faux News machine just stopped working.

Posted by: shrink2 | October 27, 2008 1:57 PM | Report abuse

I'm not surprised that AZ is tightening up. I was there until January of this year (Go Sun Devils!), and I can tell you right now that the Grand Canyon State is trending blue.

If anybody but McCain won the GOP nomination, Arizona would've been a battleground state.

McCain will win it, but it'll be single digits.

Posted by: cam8 | October 27, 2008 1:57 PM | Report abuse

AMERICA VOTE, VOTE OBAMA BIDEN 08...!!!


NETHERLANDS ANTILLES

Posted by: fu_buki | October 27, 2008 1:53 PM | Report abuse

"Remember when we used to take tests in school and we were always told to check our answers and use all the time we're given? We're just checkin' the answers is all"

If its a quiz where the question is 2+2=? And the answer choices are "4" and "ten gazillion", I'm not taking three months to answer that question.

Posted by: DDAWD | October 27, 2008 1:50 PM | Report abuse

Well, here comes David Frum, a Republican conservative mouthpiece, stating that Sarah Palin will become the most popular Republican. What is it with the Republican conservatives? They want the person with the least knowledge about practical politics and want the person with the holy roller speeches, and here comes God and Jesus all rolled into one, ready to solve all the countries problems. Remember George (the incompetant) Bush, well, here comes Sarah (the incompetant) Palin, ready to solve our countries problem by praying them away. Sarah Palin may be popular with the Republican conservatives, but she is peculiar with the normal American. I can only hope the Republican Conservatives gets shriveled to nothing and elimineted from any real power, forever. America cannot afford these jerks.

Posted by: MikeQ2 | October 27, 2008 1:50 PM | Report abuse

Wow. I knew things were moving away from McCain, but Real Clear just moved Arizona, from Solid McCain, to Leaning McCain.
I'd be surprised if McCain loses Arizona, but that the race is tightening in Arizona (McCain up 6), aint a good sign for Mav.
It looks like his choice of Gov Palin, really blew up in his face. Her numbers are tanking, much faster than his.
Pretty cool, Americans actually voting substance over spin... whoda thunk.

Posted by: burf | October 27, 2008 1:48 PM | Report abuse

OBAMA says "we can't take 4 more years of MCBUSH failure..."

NETHERLANDS ANTILLES

Posted by: fu_buki | October 27, 2008 1:47 PM | Report abuse

Why are the haters always calling out the undecideds? I think it's apparent that we are a minority group. So unless you want me to rile up the ACLU, I suggest you back off.

Remember when we used to take tests in school and we were always told to check our answers and use all the time we're given? We're just checkin' the answers is all....

http://www.squatcrouch.com/

Posted by: Squatty_HJ | October 27, 2008 1:46 PM | Report abuse

Wow.

Rasmussen has Arizona at only +5 for McCain, with only 3 undecided.

Losing one's own state is gonna hurt bad.

Go Wildcats!

Posted by: wpost4112 | October 27, 2008 1:46 PM | Report abuse

If the polls are right -- this is very encouraging. Maybe Lincoln was right, after all, about not being able to "fool all the people all the time".

A majority of voting Americans were fooled in 2004. It was bad enough that W "won" in 2000, but then to actually get voted in in 2004 -- AFTER he led us into that major strategic blunder (the focus should have stayed on Afghanistan) in Iraq was extremely dismaying.

If Obama / Biden win by a landslide, my estimation of the American voter would rise exponentially. And since we are unequivocally the leader of the world, there is yet hope for mankind!

Posted by: JeffThomasErson | October 27, 2008 1:46 PM | Report abuse

toritto's comments are dead on. Americans will take their country back on election day. They're tired of being lied to, manipulated, and divided. The Culture wars are over, it's time to come together and get to work fixing the mess of decades of anti-government ideology. Katrina? Mortgage backed securities? The military? You gotta have government and need it to be, at least, competent. If Obama can run the administration like he's run his campaign then, it will be a new day in America on 01/20/09.

Posted by: thebobbob | October 27, 2008 1:45 PM | Report abuse

I hope he includes the facts that:
1. GWB redistributed wealth to the investment and government-sector classes and away from the States, private sector, social security surplus and next generation (deficit spending). It created the temporary "illusion" of wealth. Obama is proposing a better balance.
2. McCain promotes Ireland for business but Ireland not only has lower capital gains, it also NATIONAL HEALTH AND SOCIAL SERVICES. So McCain's example really illustrates Obama's point that easing healthcare costs on labor thru govmt subsidy IS good for business!

Posted by: cmnsns | October 27, 2008 1:44 PM | Report abuse

I wonder what happened to all the Caps Lock screamers who said that if we Democrats did not settle for the Clintons' third term, we were forcing the election of John McCain?

Barring the unspeakable, we will have (both the Congress and) a person in the White House who can lead. It'll be hard work to repair the damage the Republicans have done to this country, but not as hard as this campaign.

Posted by: shrink2 | October 27, 2008 1:42 PM | Report abuse

I see 37th&Q Ave has weighed in with the same posts he/she is dumping everywhere else on the boards. I fear this thread may have just jumped the shark.

BB

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | October 27, 2008 1:42 PM | Report abuse

BB - I am sure you are onto something. The federal government is structured to pay for big ticket items - the Constitution envisions a military and a public highway system, and demands that the national debt be serviced from general revenue. The federal expenditures will always favor the rich, and Adam Smith noted that the tax revenue should be borne disproportionately by those who benefit most from government expenditures.

I would be more likely to characterize the GWB tax cuts as an attempt at further wealth redistribution, to the rich. McC was ardent in his view about that, at one time. He wrote me several brilliant emails on the subject [I was a contributor to his campaign in '99-'00 as well as '07-'08.

Posted by: mark_in_austin | October 27, 2008 1:42 PM | Report abuse

McCain and the Wingnuts are seeing their 90's power grap being yanked away from them because of their own incompetence and they're throwing a tantrum. After controlling the white house for the last eight years and controlling congress for ten of the last twelve years they've proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that conservatism is a failed ideology and now they're panicking.


Here's some straight-talk, my friends:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJThPjvscFs
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Posted by: DrainYou | October 27, 2008 1:41 PM | Report abuse

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Let's all review how this year, not decades ago. OBAMA REFUSED TO DISAVOW Rev. Wright and his BLACK LIBERATION THEOLOGY TEACHINGS.


What is worse is that Obama exposed his children to the HATE OF BLACK LIBERATION THEOLOGY FOR YEARS.


EXPOSED HIS CHILDREN TO THAT RACIST HATE UNTIL IT BECAME POLITICALLY IMPOSSIBLE FOR OBAMA TO CONTINUE TO BRING HIS CHILDREN TO THE RACIST CHURCH !


IF A WHITE candidate had a similar church, the Washignton Post would be railing against that candidate.


The bias is great, the racism is unbelievable. The media has given Obama so many passes.


Then they have to go and get some FALSE CHARGES FROM DECADES AGO.


Investigate Obama and his democratic friends in Chicago.


Investigate his friend REZKO who has been indicted and whose story much of America does not know.


Investigate all the connections between Michele Obama and Farrakhan.


BE SERIOUS MEDIA.


YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING DRINKING THE KOOL-AID OF THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN TALKING POINTS AS IF IT WERE TRUTH.


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Posted by: 37thandOSt | October 27, 2008 1:38 PM | Report abuse

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Let's all review how this year, not decades ago. OBAMA REFUSED TO DISAVOW Rev. Wright and his BLACK LIBERATION THEOLOGY TEACHINGS.


What is worse is that Obama exposed his children to the HATE OF BLACK LIBERATION THEOLOGY FOR YEARS.


EXPOSED HIS CHILDREN TO THAT RACIST HATE UNTIL IT BECAME POLITICALLY IMPOSSIBLE FOR OBAMA TO CONTINUE TO BRING HIS CHILDREN TO THE RACIST CHURCH !


IF A WHITE candidate had a similar church, the Washignton Post would be railing against that candidate.


The bias is great, the racism is unbelievable. The media has given Obama so many passes.


Then they have to go and get some FALSE CHARGES FROM DECADES AGO.


Investigate Obama and his democratic friends in Chicago.


Investigate his friend REZKO who has been indicted and whose story much of America does not know.


Investigate all the connections between Michele Obama and Farrakhan.


BE SERIOUS MEDIA.


YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING DRINKING THE KOOL-AID OF THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN TALKING POINTS AS IF IT WERE TRUTH.


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Posted by: 37thandOSt | October 27, 2008 1:36 PM | Report abuse

Proud to be GOD parrots:

A taped interview with Obama has surfaced that reinforces what he told Joe the plumber, Obama believes in and definitely intends to follow through, with the help of Pelosi, Reid, and Barney Frank, on his plans for income redistribution. Will the MSM discuss these latest revelations? Of course not. It is shameful that even here at the Fix, no mention of this interview is made at all.

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As usual Proud To Be God rushes in from the latest Limbaugh radio show to parrot more utter nonsense.

I was listening as well (always keep your eye and ears on the loony Right to see what latest lie they are spreading) and am thrilled we are going to elect someone who can discourse about the Constitution so intelligently and critically.

In a revealing moment, Limbaugh said that the Constitution is from God. This is part of the Right's lunacy...elevating a man-made legal document to the status of holy writ.

NO wonder they are such looney-tunes!

If you want to have a sense of what it was like to listen to Nazi propaganda prior to WWII, listen to Limbaugh. Loquacious evil.

Posted by: wpost4112 | October 27, 2008 1:36 PM | Report abuse

I concur with Zouk on the undecided voters that neither side zeroes in on in these polls, and that's one reason I've thrown most polls out the window. It is disingenuous to quote a poll that reads (for instance) "Obama 50 McShame 45 Undecided 5" and quote that as a 5 point Obama lead.

Of course, McCain would have to sweep the undecideds (what the hell are you waiting for, people?) to have a shot at winning in most if not all battlegrounders, but bondjedi is all about metaphysical certainty.

Posted by: bondjedi | October 27, 2008 1:36 PM | Report abuse

Interesting how McCain/Palin are pushing the "redistribution of wealth" attack against Obama. Thanks to the Bush/McCain economic policies, over 40% of my personal wealth was just redistributed to nowhere. At least with Obama's plan SOMEONE would benefit!

Posted by: EubieDed | October 27, 2008 1:34 PM | Report abuse

@king_of_zouk:
Here are the latest 3 voter scenarios, from Gallup:
http://tinyurl.com/5qu3jq
Looks like the *undecideds,* are making their choice.
As a Vet, for the first time in a long time, I'm really proud of Americans. They look like they'll actually be voting for THEIR interests for once. Instead of following your Cult leaders' talking points.
Not to mention, that they may be electing a black President. America IS growing up.
Sorry, king, but it looks like America has decided vote with their brains, this time.

Posted by: burf | October 27, 2008 1:28 PM | Report abuse

Mark - I'm getting the feeling here that a progressive tax system is considered redistribution by conservatives on the boards. I didn't have a problem with it when I was low income (pizza delivery) and don't have a problem now that I'm not. Most of the so-called "flat tax" schemes are designed to be progressive through large exemptions.

Consumption taxes so favored by many conservatives are inherently regressive as lower income earners spend a higher fraction of their income on goods and services.

BB

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | October 27, 2008 1:25 PM | Report abuse

"Barack Obama wants to reverse that entirely. And that’s radical change you’d better believe in, or else."

Proud, since you are an expert on the Constitution, perhaps you can explain to us how the president can amend it as Obama plans.

Go ask Rush or Hannity, since you have no clue. Hint - it can't be done, but don't let the truth get in the way of a good talking point.

Posted by: bondjedi | October 27, 2008 1:21 PM | Report abuse

The Way That We Should See McCain & Palin From Now On:
Maverick Personality Disorder: A New Diagnosis
http://tinyurl.com/5ggtte

Posted by: janawalter87 | October 27, 2008 1:14 PM | Report abuse

Proud - BHO's 2001 comments about the Wrren Court are accurate, and he was not "complaining" that the Constitution was a guarantor of negative rights - he was clearly stating the same notion the critic expressed, that the Constitution protects us from government.

It may be a fair reading that BHO favored [and favors?] "redistribution of wealth" through governmental intervention. The excerpt is not explicit about that, and could be read to suggest that with the aid of community organization people can get up off their fat butts and make something of themselves. The model for organized self-help is the union movement, of course.

But that distinction is unclear and worth further inquiry.

Posted by: mark_in_austin | October 27, 2008 1:12 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: toritto | October 27, 2008 1:11 PM | Report abuse

"The Borgen Project has some good info on the cost of addressing global poverty.
$30 billion: Annual shortfall to end world hunger.
$540 billion: Annual U.S. Defense Budget."

Posted by: diana9 | October 27, 2008 1:09 PM | Report abuse

Hey King take a Tumms your gettin a little gassy.

Posted by: jonnybullet | October 27, 2008 1:08 PM | Report abuse

"The only poll that matters is a week from tomorrow. And you and I have our duty at the polls."

That's no longer the case. A number of states allowing advance voting and the Obama campaign is clearly pushing this. The original motivation may have been to increase turnout, but this will also effectively lock in a third of the electorate at a time when Obama has a clear lead. Even if opinions were turn turn several points for McCain in the last few days of the campaign, it might be too late.

BB

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | October 27, 2008 1:06 PM | Report abuse

Sorry Rick,

My bad - should have directed remarks to the king.

Posted by: JohnQuimby | October 27, 2008 1:05 PM | Report abuse

The Americanthinker, what a pathetic rag the Enquirer is a much more reputable paper. Read the story about McCain, Elvis and the space Aliens in Alaska, that story makes more sense.

Posted by: jonnybullet | October 27, 2008 1:04 PM | Report abuse

Kinda' an interesting choice .... Washington's method of transfering wealth or Wall Street's.
Got mortgage?

Posted by: bgreen2224 | October 27, 2008 1:03 PM | Report abuse

First of all Rick,

The only poll that matters is a week from tomorrow. And you and I have our duty at the polls.

Second, the 7% Obama lead reported by RCP as a national average means a landslide in states won, popular vote and electoral votes because the Obama lead is spread over states Bush won while McCain is leading in none of the states Kerry won.

But like I said, only one poll counts.

Posted by: JohnQuimby | October 27, 2008 1:03 PM | Report abuse

McCain 2001: Scrap the Constitution, spread the wealth to the wealthy
All I can say is "Wow."

A taped interview with McCain has surfaced that reinforces what he told Joe the plumber, McCain believes in and definitely intends to follow through, with the help of Satan, on his plans for income redistribution to the wealthy. Will the MSM discuss these latest revelations? Of course not. It is shameful that even here at the Fix, no mention of this interview is made at all.

In it, the shocking admissions made by McCain are clear, that 1) he believes that the Warren Court did "break free from the essential constraints" found in the Constitution in order to redistribute wealth; and 2) he believes in "redistributive change" for America by taking wealth from the poor and giving it to the wealthy.

McCain said at the time "I’m not optimistic about bringing about major redistributive change through the courts. You know, the institution just isn’t structured that way." But with help from Satan, his dreams for 'major redistributive change' could become a reality very quickly if he's elected.

John McCain complains that the Constitution is a “charter of negative liberties” which prevents him from increasing poverty to provide destitute cannon fodder for his conscript army. That’s because the Constitution was intended as a limiting document, to curtail the power of the federal government vis-a-vis the states and the individual!

The founders intended at the time to limit the reach of the federal government, and built the Constitution accordingly!

John McCain wants to reverse that entirely. And that’s radical change you’d better believe in, or else he'll take your money too.

McCain wishes to scrap the limits placed on government powers because they get in the way of his redistributive schemes."

Posted by: hiberniantears | October 27, 2008 1:02 PM | Report abuse

http://www.theadvertiser.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081026/NEWS01/810260325

Here's one that mentions a McCain landslide.

(in Louisiana)

Posted by: DDAWD | October 27, 2008 1:02 PM | Report abuse

Ignore Zouk, folks. He's just copying and pasting. As usual. The last post was copied from Mark Levin, posted 10/25/08, at the National Review.

I was going to bother disputing some of these points, but they don't represent original thought, why bother.

BB

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | October 27, 2008 12:58 PM | Report abuse

manure spreader philosophy, along w/the simpleton automatons that follow it like lemmings w/their mouths open, thus becoming full of cr@p!!!!!

Posted by: jonnybullet
do you mean hope, hope, hope, change, change, change, spread it around, etc.

I think you are confused.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | October 27, 2008 12:58 PM | Report abuse

Adios free market Republican fascists. You're headed for the fruits of your eight long years of 'labor'. Hope you find a sidelined boxcar, empty shipping container or underpass in which to set up shop -- making spit cups for each other.
And by the way, weed all the beds next time.

Posted by: bgreen2224 | October 27, 2008 12:58 PM | Report abuse

Another Virginia poll showing +9

That Gives Obama +7, 8, 9, 11 in the state for the day.

Did I forget to mention that McCain must have Virginia?

Posted by: DDAWD | October 27, 2008 12:58 PM | Report abuse

"The founders intended at the time to limit the reach of the federal government, and built the Constitution accordingly!

Barack Obama wants to reverse that entirely. And that’s radical change you’d better believe in, or else."
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HAHAHA!! As if W, Cheney and Rumsfeld haven't put the Constitution through the paper shredder and tried to build an imperial presidency....

Posted by: RickJ | October 27, 2008 12:58 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: hiberniantears | October 27, 2008 12:57 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: hiberniantears | October 27, 2008 12:55 PM | Report abuse

Obama 2001: Scrap the Constitution, spread the wealth
All I can say is "Wow."

A taped interview with Obama has surfaced that reinforces what he told Joe the plumber, Obama believes in and definitely intends to follow through, with the help of Pelosi, Reid, and Barney Frank, on his plans for income redistribution. Will the MSM discuss these latest revelations? Of course not. It is shameful that even here at the Fix, no mention of this interview is made at all.

In it, the shocking admissions made by Obama are clear, that 1) he believes that the Warren Court did not "break free from the essential constraints" found in the Constitution in order to redistribute wealth to the Black poor; and 2) he believes in "redistributive change" for America.

Obama said at the time "I’m not optimistic about bringing about major redistributive change through the courts. You know, the institution just isn’t structured that way." But with help from a liberal supermajority, his dreams for 'major redistributive change' could become a reality very quickly if he's elected.

Barack Obama complains that the Constitution is a “charter of negative liberties”. That’s because the Constitution was intended as a limiting document, to curtail the power of the federal government vis-a-vis the states and the individual!

The founders intended at the time to limit the reach of the federal government, and built the Constitution accordingly!

Barack Obama wants to reverse that entirely. And that’s radical change you’d better believe in, or else.

Obama wishes to scrap the limits placed on government powers because they get in the way of his redistributive schemes."

partial transcript of interview here: http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/10/obama_2001_scrap_the_constitut.html

Posted by: proudtobeGOP | October 27, 2008 12:54 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: hiberniantears | October 27, 2008 12:53 PM | Report abuse

"my greatest concern is whether this election will show a majority of the voters susceptible to the appeal of a charismatic demagogue."

Put your concerns to rest. Sarah Palin's favorable numbers are in the tank, and she is headed where most demagogue's find their sinecure - FOX News or talk-radio.

Posted by: bondjedi | October 27, 2008 12:52 PM | Report abuse

King_of _zouk you're just an other example of the Right Wingnuts and their manure spreader philosophy, along w/the simpleton automatons that follow it like lemmings w/their mouths open, thus becoming full of cr@p!!!!!

Posted by: jonnybullet | October 27, 2008 12:52 PM | Report abuse

"But beyond the elites and the media, my greatest concern is whether this election will show a majority of the voters susceptible to the appeal of a charismatic demagogue."

Yeah, but after Iraq, Katrina, and the stock market, people seem like they are done with this guy.

Posted by: DDAWD | October 27, 2008 12:50 PM | Report abuse

For example:
Reuters.cspan.zogby national poll

10/24 - 26 1203 LV

Mac 45 Obama 50 undec 5

If the messiah is so overwhelmingly great, why the hesitation?

FL
Reuters 10.23-26 Mac 47 Obambi 47 undec 6

OH Reuters 10.23 - 26 Mac 45 Obambi 50 Undec 5

MO
survey 10.25-26 Mac 48 Obambi 48 Indec 1


I predict mostly the same outcome as 2004. the election will be decided in VA.

Landslide - hardly. More like lawsuits over ACORN theft.

Watch how the tone shifts because it isn't al gore on the losing end.


Posted by: king_of_zouk | October 27, 2008 12:33 PM | Report abuse

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You might also report that Zogby shows Obama with 273 electoral votes at present, which means he would elected. (Zogby still shows NV and CO as toss-ups which others have given to Obama.)

Posted by: RickJ | October 27, 2008 12:49 PM | Report abuse

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Democrat Barack Obama's lead over Republican rival John McCain has dropped to 5 points, according to a Reuters/C-SPAN/Zogby poll released on Sunday.

Obama leads McCain by 49 percent to 44 percent among likely U.S. voters in the daily tracking poll, which has a margin of error of 2.9 points. Obama's lead has dropped over the last three days after hitting a high of 12 points on Thursday.

"Things are trending back for McCain. His numbers are rising and Obama's are dropping on a daily basis. There seems to be a direct correlation between this and McCain talking about the economy," pollster John Zogby said.

Messiah slowly sinking. NO SALE!!

Posted by: king_of_zouk | October 27, 2008 12:49 PM | Report abuse

For example:
Reuters.cspan.zogby national poll

10/24 - 26 1203 LV

Mac 22 Obama 78 undec 0

The Messiah is so overwhelmingly great, don't hesitate!

FL
Reuters 10.23-26 Mac 26 Obamba 68 undec 6

OH Reuters 10.23 - 26 Mac 45 Obamba 50 Undec 5

MO
survey 10.25-26 Mac 19 Obamba 81 Indec 0


I predict mostly the same outcome as 1936. The election will be decided in VA.

Landslide - indeed! More lawsuits over ACORN theft will distract the GOP from getting themselves straightened out, leaving them in wilderness for the next 100 years.

Watch how the tone shifts because it isn't al gore on the losing end. This time, I doubt anyone even remembers the shmuck that ran against Obama.

Posted by: hiberniantears | October 27, 2008 12:48 PM | Report abuse

"The race will probably tighten slightly and there may be an October surprise"

The race always tightens as undecideds hop off the fence.

The emphasis of early voting in Obama's campaign is pretty interesting. For example, more people have voted in North Carolina already than had voted in that state in 2004. The voting has been overwhelmingly Democrats.

Democrats and Republicans in the future will look to Obama's campaign as an example of how to conduct campaigns. For all the talk on how the internet has transformed politics, the real story is Obama's ability to win the game on the ground through numerous offices and unprecedented levels of personal voter contact.

Posted by: DDAWD | October 27, 2008 12:48 PM | Report abuse

geez....anyone can look charismatic standing next to Elmer Fudd....

:-)

Posted by: toritto | October 27, 2008 12:46 PM | Report abuse

But beyond the elites and the media, my greatest concern is whether this election will show a majority of the voters susceptible to the appeal of a charismatic demagogue. This may seem a harsh term to some, and no doubt will to Obama supporters, but it is a perfectly appropriate characterization. Obama's entire campaign is built on class warfare and human envy. The "change" he peddles is not new. We've seen it before. It is change that diminishes individual liberty for the soft authoritarianism of socialism. It is a populist appeal that disguises government mandated wealth redistribution as tax cuts for the middle class, falsely blames capitalism for the social policies and government corruption (Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac) that led to the current turmoil in our financial markets, fuels contempt for commerce and trade by stigmatizing those who run successful small and large businesses, and exploits human imperfection as a justification for a massive expansion of centralized government. Obama's appeal to the middle class is an appeal to the "the proletariat," as an infamous philosopher once described it, about which a mythology has been created. Rather than pursue the American Dream, he insists that the American Dream has arbitrary limits, limits Obama would set for the rest of us — today it's $250,000 for businesses and even less for individuals. If the individual dares to succeed beyond the limits set by Obama, he is punished for he's now officially "rich." The value of his physical and intellectual labor must be confiscated in greater amounts for the good of the proletariat (the middle class). And so it is that the middle class, the birth-child of capitalism, is both celebrated and enslaved — for its own good and the greater good. The "hope" Obama represents, therefore, is not hope at all. It is the misery of his utopianism imposed on the individual.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | October 27, 2008 12:43 PM | Report abuse

For example:
Reuters.cspan.zogby national poll

10/24 - 26 1203 LV

Mac 45 Obama 50 undec 5

If the messiah is so overwhelmingly great, why the hesitation?

FL
Reuters 10.23-26 Mac 47 Obambi 47 undec 6

OH Reuters 10.23 - 26 Mac 45 Obambi 50 Undec 5

MO
survey 10.25-26 Mac 48 Obambi 48 Indec 1


I predict mostly the same outcome as 2004. the election will be decided in VA.

Landslide - hardly. More like lawsuits over ACORN theft.

Watch how the tone shifts because it isn't al gore on the losing end.


Posted by: king_of_zouk | October 27, 2008 12:33 PM | Report abuse
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The undecided are mostly those who will not vote at all. They never tell a pollster "I don't plan on voting" They say they are not sure who to vote for. The fact is, they will not be voting at all. I have been involved in polling and this is almost always the case. I can hardly ever recall someone saying "I don't vote".

Posted by: popasmoke | October 27, 2008 12:41 PM | Report abuse

Not just an Obama landslide. Given the numbers nationwide of early voters and registered voters, Obama's coat tails will also extend to Congress, governorships and even the local dog catcher. What a good day for clean government in light of the last 8 years of lies and sleaze.

Posted by: buzziea | October 27, 2008 12:40 PM | Report abuse

It's interesting that conservatives continue to try to push the idea that the country is "center-right" as it prepares to rebuke the Republican Party which has espoused conservatism, sometimes extreme conservatism, over thirty years.

Perhaps it is true that the electorate was formerly "center-right" in recent years. But the Obama campaign has successfully expanded the electorate to many of the forgotten. The campaign has inspired many of those who had lost hope, who had tuned out politics and government as irrelevant to their daily lives. Throughout the years, when polled on specific policies, the public continues to support those government programs aimed at the working and middle classes, yet has often voted Republican.

As the shape and face of the electorate changes, we are preparing to enter an era where the country is solutions-oriented, pragmatic and largely centrist. Obama and the Democratic Congress will have the opportunity to cement a center-left majority for perhaps a generation.

Posted by: OHIOCITIZEN | October 27, 2008 12:40 PM | Report abuse

This nation is on the verge of something historic - the election of a black man as President of the United States. If is fair to say the entire world is watching. It is also fair to say the vast majority is rooting for a Republican defeat. If you don’t believe me you clearly don’t read anything.

How did we get to this place and time? How did a freshman Senator inspire millions of voters to finance his unlikely campaign? Why is he leading in the polls? How did this happen?

Well, I’ll tell you how it happened for me.

I was one of those who had doubts about the Iraq war. I did not believe that Iraq was an imminent threat to the United States. Not that Saddam was a good guy ( he wasn’t) however there are lots of bad guys in the world who are not an imminent threat to us whom we don’t attack. We were already flying over his country everyday. There was a tight embargo. Unless he had nuclear weapons how big a threat could he be?

The Administration then lied to us about Saddam and his weaponry.. Further, it sent out a duped Colin Powell to convince us. Bush knew we would believe Colin. So the United States of America, beacon of liberty, attacked a third world country, destroyed its hapless military, made rubble of its infrastructure and occupied it.

Later the lies came out. There were no dangerous weapons. Just fudged intelligence.

The Dems swept into control of Congress in 2006. Bush’s veto could override a 51-49 majority in the Senate so the war went on. Notwithstanding every indication that the majority of Americans didn’t want this war to continue, it went on anyway with no end date. I watched the war go on. I watched as we tortured prisoners, suspended Habeas Corpus and shredded the Constitution. I watched as Bush politicized the Justice Department and placed incompetent political hacks in high office.


So here we are. Tens of millions of us have made this journey starting a different places for different reasons; a journey which began with a distaste and disgust with Bush to a point where we may take our country back. Tens of millions have worked hard, made whatever donations we could afford and are already voting in many states.

The whole world is rooting for us to succeed. The whole world needs an America they can look up to again.

MAKE SURE YOU VOTE!

:-)

Posted by: toritto | October 27, 2008 12:40 PM | Report abuse

Obama has run a near-perfect campaign. He has stayed on message and worked hard to get where he stands at the moment. And he's done it with grace and substance. Even in a year where all seems to be going against the Republicans, the narrative is focused more on Obama's rise than the Republicans' collapse.

The race will probably tighten slightly and there may be an October surprise, but at this point, McCain has done nothing to convince voters that they should switch their vote to him... One week to go.....

Posted by: RickJ | October 27, 2008 12:37 PM | Report abuse

For example:
Reuters.cspan.zogby national poll

10/24 - 26 1203 LV

Mac 45 Obama 50 undec 5

If the messiah is so overwhelmingly great, why the hesitation?

FL
Reuters 10.23-26 Mac 47 Obambi 47 undec 6

OH Reuters 10.23 - 26 Mac 45 Obambi 50 Undec 5

MO
survey 10.25-26 Mac 48 Obambi 48 Indec 1


I predict mostly the same outcome as 2004. the election will be decided in VA.

Landslide - hardly. More like lawsuits over ACORN theft.

Watch how the tone shifts because it isn't al gore on the losing end.


Posted by: king_of_zouk | October 27, 2008 12:33 PM | Report abuse

YES WE CAN -- IN A PERFECT WORLD. BUT...

The prevailing belief among liberals and progressives that Barack Obama is about to make history hinges upon two predicates that may or may not hold:

1) The electoral process, with more than a third of the votes being cast electronically, yielding only a limited "paper trail," will result an accurate vote tally

2) A game-changing "October Surprise" won't happen this week

So better keep your fingers crossed, because if the past is prologue, something unexpected may be about to happen on the world or national scene...

...or, in the alternative, Election Day will be another long day's journey into vote tabulation Hell in the calculated tradition of the year 2000.

The Democratic Congress failed to address the electronic voting/paper trail issue, perhaps to the detriment of their candidates in this contentious election cycle.

And yet party "wise men" like Schumer and Emanuel are predicting a Democratic tidal wave and already are mapping out the priorities of their assumed reign.

Once again, their naivete is breathtaking, especially in light of their self-defeating inaction on electoral process issues, and given their vacillations on issues vital to personal liberty and equal justice under the law (warantless wiretapping and physical searches, extension of the Patriot Act, federalization of local police funding and security operations, etc.)

Have they failed to recognize that the infrastructure of entrenched power may be working against them, both in Washington and at the grassroots?

And if the election does come off smoothly, what about the pre-inaugural transition period, or the early days of a new administration that's to be "tested" with a "generated" crisis?

Before you count your chickens, shouldn't you have secured the hen house?


WHAT IF McCAIN-PALIN'S STRATEGY IS AIMED NOT JUST AT VOTERS, BUT AT THE APPARACHIK?

http://www.nowpublic.com/world/mccain-palins-fellow-traveler-insinuations-what-if-u-s-security-forces-agree

OR members.nowpublic.com/scrivener


Posted by: scrivener50 | October 27, 2008 12:30 PM | Report abuse

I remember when I was in grade school and JFK was running for President. His opponents said he was inexperienced, too young, and that he would bring the Pope over to rule, since he was Catholic. All of it was nonsense and Republicans are doing the same thing now with Obama. I see a lot of similarities then and now.

Posted by: pattycakes90 | October 27, 2008 12:28 PM | Report abuse

Regarding the 'undecided' vote, I strolled over to the WaPost daily tracking poll, to find... Obama 52, McCain 45, Niether 1, Undecided 2. If McCain wins the undecided vote outright, he'd still have to convince all the 3rd party voters and convert a couple points worth of Obama supporters to tie. I don't see it happening.

Posted by: bsimon1 | October 27, 2008 12:27 PM | Report abuse

One more week, and I don't trust most of these g-damn polls, with the weighting and filters. Educated guesses are what most if not all are.

Still, one more week. Still waiting for that October Surprise (or maybe that's what the Powell endorsement was). Encouraging for Obama supporters is the one trait McBush/Kato successfully boosted from the Clinton camp, and that's the finger-pointing as the life preservers are being handed out.

Kato Palin will be the long-term winner here. The parallels with Reagan are amazing - a stage-managed governor from a large state with a rabid following more in love with the idea of Palin/Reagan than Palin/Reagan itself. Reagan allowed himself to be managed, though - is Kato Palin too much of a diva to listen to the adults who will tell her to hold tight until 2016, or will she insist on being embarrassed in 2012 and put herself fully under the sway of half-wits like Bill Kristol?

Posted by: bondjedi | October 27, 2008 12:26 PM | Report abuse

Zouk, the only one predicting riots is you.

BB

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | October 27, 2008 12:24 PM | Report abuse

"I am interested in the large number of undecided voters. I predict they will swing heavily to McCain once in the booth. If you add these numbers to McCains polling results, you will find that this election is not going to end peacefully."

Of course, Obama is polling over 50% in the states that he needs...

Posted by: DDAWD | October 27, 2008 12:24 PM | Report abuse

"I am interested in the large number of undecided voters."

Got data? The ranks of the undecided have been dwindling, according to the polls I've seen. This appears to explain the recent surge towards Obama - the formerly undecided have decided to go for the new guy.

Posted by: bsimon1 | October 27, 2008 12:22 PM | Report abuse

to king-of-zouk ... obama is consistently polling above 50% (see real clear politics average for yourself) ... mccain could win every single undecided voter (which just isn't gonna happen) and obama still wins ... too bad, so sad

Posted by: arcadiola | October 27, 2008 12:22 PM | Report abuse

Wow, one more week to go. These eight months have just flown by.

I think this whole thing will come down to Virginia. Obama has other ways to win, but I don't think McCain can win without Virginia. His campaign probably feels the same as that's where Palin has been rallying recently. Obama, has been drawing impressive numbers both in his rallies (100,000 people) as well as his polls (+5 in Ohio, +7, +8, +11 in Virginia)

Again, McCain's decision to cede Colorado was a huge blunder. It puts him in the position where he must take a Kerry state other than New Hampshire. McCain isn't within ten points of Obama in any of the Kerry states (The closest is Pennsylvania where Obama is leading by over 11 points according to RCP average)

Posted by: DDAWD | October 27, 2008 12:19 PM | Report abuse

OBAMA is the change we desperately need. I have never in my life been so excited to cast a vote as I am for November 4. My vote goes to Obama-Biden 08!

Posted by: arcadiola | October 27, 2008 12:18 PM | Report abuse

I am interested in the large number of undecided voters. I predict they will swing heavily to McCain once in the booth. If you add these numbers to McCains polling results, you will find that this election is not going to end peacefully.

I also note that if Obama loses, there are riots predicted. what is it with you Libs anyway. why are you all so angry and mean? If you could ever come up with a reasonable policy on anything, you might get some support from across the aisle, as you have claimed to be able to drum up, an obvious exaggeration.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | October 27, 2008 12:13 PM | Report abuse

We as citizens and voters are about to make a critical decision about the future direction of our country and its role in the world -- who will fill the executive vacancy as leader of the United States of America?

When you interview someone, or you are interviewed for a job, what is taken into consideration to evaluate qualifications?

1. experience
2. record of accomplishment
3. ability to make a convincing argument, as well as to look you in the eye and say the truth (no conflicting statements)
4. the candidate's associations (what boards has he served on and organizations has he volunteered with)
5. character -- a background check is usually required for employment to check one's references, verify one's resume, and even to check their fiscal responsibility (credit check). Some jobs require a security clearance.

Finally, you also want someone working for you that is a very strong and tested negotiator -- one that doesn't put all his cards on the table in naivete -- and knows how to close the deal.


I believe that only John McCain can pass all five of these job interview criteria, but please don't take my word for it.


Please, evaluate all the candidates for yourself from a completely nonpartisan and unbiased source -- Project Vote Smart, and then you decide on November 4. Each candidate deserves a fair chance to make their case and we owe it to ourselves and future generations to seriously consider the merits of each based on a clear understanding of who they are and what they really believe. Please base your vote on facts not on partisanship.

The site lists all candidates, their biographies, voting records, associations, endorsements, and stances they've taken on the issues by filling out questionnaires.

http://www.votesmart.org

Posted by: voterinPARandy | October 27, 2008 12:11 PM | Report abuse

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