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"Old" vs. "Change" and the Battle of Perception

MACARTHUR AIRPORT, N.Y. -- Time and time again on The Fix, we emphasize the importance of perception in politics. When something looks bad, it usually is bad -- no matter the reality.

And so, when we came across a new question in an Associated Press/Yahoo poll that sought to assess voters' first impressions of John McCain and Barack Obama , we were intrigued.

The survey of 1,759 adults, conducted from June 13-23, asked the sample to list the first word (or words) they thought of when it came to the candidates.

For McCain, nearly one in five (19 percent) said "old". For Obama, roughly that same number (20 percent) said "outsider/change".

Therein lies the problem for McCain in this election. If the choice ultimately is between an "old" candidate and one seen as a "change" agent, the "change" candidate is going to win almost every time -- particularly in an environment where voters believe the country is headed in the wrong direction and badly want to try something different.

It's clear then that McCain MUST find a way to change initial voter perceptions of this contest between now and November.

And yet, that same question in the AP/Yahoo poll -- read a certain way -- would seem to provide a roadmap for such a redefining of the race.

While "old" led the way in terms of voters describing McCain, the next two words/phrases that were mentioned were far more positive. Nine percent said "military service" came to mind when McCain was mentioned while eight percent said "record/qualifications".

Compare that to "lack of experience" (13 percent) and dishonest (9 percent) -- the second and third most mentioned words or phrases chosen to describe Obama.

Given those results, it's not at all surprising that McCain is seeking to turn this race into a personality contest rather than a detailed policy debate. Voters already perceive McCain to be a military man who has an impressive resume and is ready for the job. There are still real doubts among voters about whether Obama is for real, whether he can be trusted with the most important job in the world.

The more McCain's campaign can turn this race into a battle of resumes then, the better chance the Arizona senator has of winning. If voters believe they are choosing between an old yet experienced candidate on the one hand and a risky change-agent on the other, McCain is right back in the game and could well win a contest that divides along those lines.

McCain had roughly four months to make this case to voters, an argument complicated by the fact that Obama and his Democratic surrogates will be painting McCain as both out of touch (code for "old") and a Bush clone (7 percent of voters in the AP/Yahoo survey said "Bush" came to mind when McCain was mentioned).

And, more importantly, first impressions are hard to shake. McCain can't change the fact he will be 72 years old on election day and his Democratic opponent will be 25 years younger. But, what McCain must change is the perception of what being that much older means. Experienced and ready is what he must shoot for; old and out of touch is what he must avoid.

By Chris Cillizza  |  July 7, 2008; 1:15 PM ET
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I'm not so much troubled by McCain's age (for the record, I'm older than Obama and younger than McCain)--I'm troubled by McCain's policy positions on most issues. Even a dispassionate reading of the issues reveals that a McCain administration would not be substantially different from a Bush third term, except perhaps in "style" and "personality" and other such trivialities. F'rinstance: McCain wants to extend the Bush tax cuts, continue Bush's Iraq policy, give us Supreme Court nominees indistinguishable from those that Dubya gave us, etc.--the list goes on. I just don't think we can endure more years of this kind of incompetence, greed, and plain old bad thinking that the Republicans have inflicted on us. So "old, schmold!" The problem isn't that McCain is old, it's that he is just so often WRONG about the things that matter.

Now, if the "age" issue does work against McCain, so be it, because I want the Republicans to receive the spanking they so richly deserve in November. But I would still like people to make their minds up by considering the REAL issues (policies, political philosophy and agenda, etc.). Of course, Cillizza et al tell us that elections are ALWAYS about perception, so if people perceive that change is in order, then McCain will lose, his age notwithstanding.

Let's paraphrase Reagan: are you better off now in 2008 than you were in 2001? Do you think the country is better off now? If a majority of Americans think about it that way, McCain is toast.

Posted by: old white male democrat in West Virginia | July 8, 2008 11:30 PM | Report abuse

"Some people who work for the small business owner who makes $300K who will be hit with higher taxes under Obama's will have there taxes go down ... down to zero when they are fired because that small business business owenr can not aford to keep them on any longer.Posted by: | July 7, 2008 8:27 PM "

I cannot concieve of a situation in which this reputed small business owner, making $300K personal income, would find himself needing to let employees go because of the taxes on his personal income. Then again, deliberate untruths like this are a regular feature of the anti tax wing of the Republican Party, who will tell you that lowering taxes raises government income, a statement that is both theoretically impossible and pragmatically refuted. The lie persists, and John is as likely to repeat it as any other rich Republican trying to keep his income, and his rich friends incomes, off the table for taxation.

On these blogs it is too easy to unintentionally post without identification, so the lack of a handle says nothing, but the lack of a response will suggest that the dissembler got caught and left.

Posted by: ceflynline@msn.com | July 8, 2008 5:56 PM | Report abuse

WHO WILL BE YOUR ADVISORS?

In these commentaries regarding McCain and Obama, where every person aligned with a candidate is open for criticism and inspection, there seems to be a major item overlooked.
Who will the candidates select for their Vice-President and, more importantly, their Cabinet?
Every President, from 1789, has had a Vice -President and some form of advisory group around them (The Cabinet includes the Vice President and the Secretaries of Agriculture, Commerce, Defense, Education, Energy, Health and Human Services, Homeland Security, Housing and Urban Development, Interior, Labor, State, Transportation, Treasury, and Veterans Affairs, and the Attorney General. Under some Presidents, Cabinet-level rank also has been accorded to the Administrator, Environmental Protection Agency; Director, Office of Management and Budget; the Director, National Drug Control Policy; and the U.S. Trade Representative.).
These advisors have had historically positive and negative effects on the United States over time.
Just to name a few, how about The Secretary of Defense position :Robert McNamara (Kennedy,Johnson,Bay of Pigs, Vietnam); Clark Clifford (Johnson,Vietnam);Elliot Richardson (Nixon,Vietnam,Watergate);James Schlesinger (Nixon,Ford,Watergate);Donald Rumsfeld (Ford, Bush GW, Gulf War);Harold Brown (Carter, Iran Hostages);Caspar Weinberger (Reagan, Iran-Contra);Frank Carlucci III (Reagan, Congo);Richard Cheney (Bush GHW, Kuwait-Desert Storm);Leslie Aspin, Jr. (Clinton, Mogadishu);William Perry (Clinton, Bosnia);William Cohen (Clinton, Iraq, Kosovo);Donald Rumsfeld (Bush GW, Iraq).
The actions and advice of these gentlemen had a lasting and telling effect on how our country appeared to the world (and the ghosts of these events still are seen throughout the globe).
So, let us now start asking, and demanding an answer,
JOHN and BARACK, WHO WILL BE YOUR ADVISORS?

Posted by: Anonymous | July 8, 2008 12:01 PM | Report abuse

Take a look at pictures of every president before and after they served thier terms.

Drastic, accelerated aging can be confirmed with all.

What would McCain look like after 4 years in the Oval Office? The Democrats aren't responsible for the "old" in this campaign. McCain brought that to the table all by his lonesome, and simply appearing before television cameras solidifies the image.

Posted by: Casual Observance | July 8, 2008 9:53 AM | Report abuse

Sorry, but I just don't think the "old" gambit by the Obama campaign is going to ultimately be a winner. In fact, I actually think it could come back to bite them in the butt. As we all know, the netroots are a pretty rude and disrespectful bunch. For most Americans, John McCain is only about ten years older than them. Compared to the netroot punks, I think McCain is going to start looking pretty wise to the Undecideds and to those of us who favor divided government.

Posted by: Jan | July 8, 2008 8:42 AM | Report abuse

The "skinny kid with the funny name" who has surfaced as "the fairytale candidate" - and burst on the American political scene to prevail as the Democratic candidate who will seek to become America's 44th President - has not reached this historic moment in American history by chance, by accident, or even by default.

My human brothers and sisters living inside the American Republic today, and outside of it's borders, it is important for each of you to understand this 'angelic and extraterrestrial piece of information' about the presence of the junior senator, of African (and European) heritage from the State of Illinois in the 2008 American Presidential election. Senator Obama is a highly evolved spiritual being who has been 'appointed by History, annointed by Destiny, and chosen by the Cosmic Spiritual Hierachy: to serve as America's next president'.

Every American who loves their beloved nation, who truly cares about the future of America, who genuinely cares about the welfare and wellbeing of their fellow Americans, who cares about the lives and future of the other members of the human race living on the surface of the blue planet today, who cares about protecting and preserving the different Nature Kingdoms, and Queendoms,
and the multitude of different lifeforms living there - and who cares about sustaining a healthy environment for all of life to thrive on as temporary tenants of Mother Earth in the future - has the right, responsibility, and ability to elect an American President with an inspiring, unifying, and enlightening vision of the future for Americans, and for the rest of the nations of different people haring life on this plundered, poisoned, depleted, injured, and desecrated planet with them today.

Borack Obama has shown himself to be someone who has the: 'conviction of purpose, eloquence of words, depth of insight, clarity of vision, strength of character, and soundness of integrity' to unify that divided nation; and inspire his fellow Americans to aspire to unite and come together to work honestly, diligently, respectfully, carefully, and truthfully for the greater good of all Americans, for the greater good of all the other nations of people, and all life forms, living, struggling, and dying on the surface of blue planet today.

Few of you are aware as yet that the fairytale candidate now running for the American Presidency is the same soul who lived, worked, and lost his mortal life as the American Civil Rights champion named Martin Luther King Jr. - who has returned to the blue planet as a "walk in" to finish the noble and great work he started: to help make "the Promise Land" a reality on this planet for all life forms living here in the not too distant future.

I invite each of you to see a chapter size "Tribute to Senator Borack Obama" that i wrote and posted on my website called aplanetundersiege.dom to gain a body of true insights that reveal compelling details about Senator Obama's true identity as Martin Luther King Jr.; and why his shocking presence back on the blue planet is truly historic in so many incredible, astonishing, and inspirational ways.
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Posted by: Avatar Galextra | July 8, 2008 6:11 AM | Report abuse


He is old and has had a lot of cancers, experiences vertigo, had blood in his urine, the list goes on and on.

He also had bladder stones. BLADDER STONES of all things. People just don't get bladder stones anymore, we get kidney stones. Bladder stones were common hundreds of years ago.

Posted by: Zach | July 8, 2008 3:06 AM | Report abuse

He is old and has had a lot of cancers, experiences vertigo, had blood in his urine, the list goes on and on.

He also had bladder stones. BLADDER STONES of all things. People just don't get bladder stones anymore, we get kidney stones. Bladder stones were common hundreds of years ago.

Posted by: Zach | July 8, 2008 3:05 AM | Report abuse

Some people here are commenting on how McCain is not only old, but that he is not in good health for being old. This is not a correct statement. If John McCain limps when he walks it is not from being 72 years old, its from being tortured in North Vietnam, sacrificing his body for his comrades in arms and the U.S.
The fact is that McCain is from a long lived family (good genes) and can afford good healthcare. It is not unreasonable to expect him to live to 90 (not that I would want him as President at 90).
Reagan was also an old President.
Sometimes old means senile, sometimes it means wisdom.
I'm 18 and I'm not falling for the trap of youthful looks that too many of my peers succomb to.

Posted by: Colin | July 8, 2008 12:40 AM | Report abuse

That Sen. McCain is not viewed as a "warmonger" and Sen. Obama is not viewed as the candidate for "peace" shows us how successful the Republican party has been at desensitizing us to the scandal of an illegal, immoral war.

And let's be honest, the fact that McCain either doesn't know or can't keep straight in his head the associations between Sunni, Shia, Iran, Iraq and Al Qaeda is more than just a little troubling.

But that doddering old fool somehow he got a pass on that...

Posted by: JR, Boston | July 7, 2008 11:50 PM | Report abuse

old, old, old -- in every way. he can't change that. mccain is old and has nothing new to say, nothing. just more of the same old bush crap.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 7, 2008 11:46 PM | Report abuse

Unfortunately McCain can't get rid of the OLD stigma! When my teenage son first saw him he just started laughing and said he is old he doesn't need to be President! I'm a nurse and work with a lot of elderly pts and at that age they start deteriorating in all aspects of there lives. I'm not trying to put him down but the stress of being president will be too much for him! Obama is fresh and will bring fresh ideas that will help us to move forward! We need change we can believe in and we would get that wqith Obama!

Posted by: Ebony | July 7, 2008 10:44 PM | Report abuse

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Why do you care about taxes. Unless you make more then $300,000 a year your taxes will go down under Obama. I won't bother pointing out all the other inaccuracies. it is not worth it since I doubt many bothered to read it anyway.
"

Some people who work for the small business owner who makes $300K who will be hit with higher taxes under Obama's will have there taxes go down ... down to zero when they are fired because that small business business owenr can not aford to keep them on any longer.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 7, 2008 8:27 PM | Report abuse

Why do you care about taxes. Unless you make more then $300,000 a year your taxes will go down under Obama. I won't bother pointing out all the other inaccuracies. it is not worth it since I doubt many bothered to read it anyway.

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Obama all CHANGE all the time :

CHANGE ... what you'll have left after I raise taxes.
CHANGE ... your gas prices upwards, but gradually
CHANGE ... my hat size because every day my head gets bigger
CHANGE ... the national motto to: In Obama We Trust.
CHANGE ... what I do to my story depending upon whom I'm talking to.
CHANGE ... what I do every day to my foreign policy
CHANGE ... what I do to my trade policy depending upon whom I'm talking to
CHANGE ... your lifestyle because the rest of the world doesn't like you
CHANGE ... my friends when they turn out NOT to be "The person I knew"
CHANGE ... what my radical left-wing ideologue handlers have in store for you
CHANGE ... what I do to facts to suit my needs.
CHANGE ... my previous position in favor of gun control was 'inartful language'
CHANGE ... my pastor's screed is OK, yours isn't
CHANGE ... FISA line that we crossed but I have now moved back
CHANGE ... from public to private campaign financing because I can raise more money
CHANGE ... I'll debate John McCain anytime, anywhere; except when and where he asks me.
CHANGE ... the words of others and claim they're mine, because words count.
CHANGE ... the meaning of Bible verses to meet my own liberal world view
CHANGE ... more of you into victims of something and build government programs to take care of you
CHANGE ... you into a ward of the state so that I OWN you and your vote
CHANGE ... your mind and believe in me for I am the Obamessiah come to save you
CHANGE ... into giggling sycophants; liberal mainstream media do under the spell of the Obamessiah
CHANGE ... the chant I use to control the weak-minded Obamanized masses
CHANGE ... into an Obamatron; join the cult, repeat the chant: CHANGE, CHANGE, CHANGE ...
CHANGE ... what I plan to do to America because it's the greatest country on the planet.
CHANGE ... the national anthems of all the nations of the world to Kumbaya using my messianic foreign policy skills
CHANGE ... into mumble-mouthed idiot when I don't have prepared speech to read.
CHANGE ... historical facts to agree with my life story
CHANGE ... I said the DC gun ban was constitutional, but now I agree with Supreme Court ruling it unconstitutional.
CHANGE ... what I said because my rhetoric was 'overheated and amplified'
CHANGE ... I mocked Hillary during the primary, now she "rocks".
CHANGE ... I respect McCain's service to his nation, so I sent Wesley "looser" Clark out to demean him
CHANGE ... but not for us, not the left-wing liberal elite, CHANGE is for YOU.
CHANGE ... the mortgage industry is a bunch of crooks; but I got my deal
CHANGE ... I was against welfare reform until Congress passed the Welfare Reform Act, then I "invented" it in Illinois
CHANGE ... I didn't vote to censure MoveOn.org for the "General Betray Us" ad, but now that I need some Independent votes, I'll issue a rebuke.
CHANGE ... I didn't wear an American flag pin because it was substitute for true patriotism, but I do now.
CHANGE ... I support our troops, but I'll take money from anti-military, anti-American Code Stink.
CHANGE ... when I'm president, I'll immediately bring the troops home ...
CAHNGE ... I want to bring the bring the troops home by March of 2008 ...
CHANGE ... I'll bring the troops home in sixteen months ...
CHANGE ... I'll begin to withdraw troops immediately, a division or two per month ...
CHANGE ... unless I "refine" my policies.
CHANGE ... I against partial birth abortions (sucking the brain out of a baby just before it's born) unless the mother is really really bummed.
CHANGE ... anything and everything I've said or done in my life if it will help me win
CHANGE ... the definition of change to: What I say, when I say it, to whom I say it.
CHANGE ... I can CHANGE when it suits me
CHANGE ... you can believe in ... for a day or two
CHANGE ... you can't keep up with
CHANGE ... you can see through
CHANGE ... you can count on, daily ... or more often

CHANGE ... your underwear because you'll defecate in your pants when you wake up to find out what the left-wing liberal ideologues have done after gaining complete control of government.
CHANGE ... YOU better freaking BELIEVE IN because it will WORK YOU over.


Obama: the AUDACITY to count on you and I being DOPEs

HoBama, walkin' the streets for votes ... What do you wanna hear honey?


Posted by: occam | July 7, 2008 7:49 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | July 7, 2008 8:11 PM | Report abuse

"Obama has never voted anything away from his party. He is not a leader but a follower and he has not shown any bipartisan effort in passing any "major" issues."

With "major issues" being defined as issues which Obama wasn't involved in.

Posted by: DDAWD | July 7, 2008 8:01 PM | Report abuse

Obama all CHANGE all the time :

CHANGE ... what you'll have left after I raise taxes.
CHANGE ... your gas prices upwards, but gradually
CHANGE ... my hat size because every day my head gets bigger
CHANGE ... the national motto to: In Obama We Trust.
CHANGE ... what I do to my story depending upon whom I'm talking to.
CHANGE ... what I do every day to my foreign policy
CHANGE ... what I do to my trade policy depending upon whom I'm talking to
CHANGE ... your lifestyle because the rest of the world doesn't like you
CHANGE ... my friends when they turn out NOT to be "The person I knew"
CHANGE ... what my radical left-wing ideologue handlers have in store for you
CHANGE ... what I do to facts to suit my needs.
CHANGE ... my previous position in favor of gun control was 'inartful language'
CHANGE ... my pastor's screed is OK, yours isn't
CHANGE ... FISA line that we crossed but I have now moved back
CHANGE ... from public to private campaign financing because I can raise more money
CHANGE ... I'll debate John McCain anytime, anywhere; except when and where he asks me.
CHANGE ... the words of others and claim they're mine, because words count.
CHANGE ... the meaning of Bible verses to meet my own liberal world view
CHANGE ... more of you into victims of something and build government programs to take care of you
CHANGE ... you into a ward of the state so that I OWN you and your vote
CHANGE ... your mind and believe in me for I am the Obamessiah come to save you
CHANGE ... into giggling sycophants; liberal mainstream media do under the spell of the Obamessiah
CHANGE ... the chant I use to control the weak-minded Obamanized masses
CHANGE ... into an Obamatron; join the cult, repeat the chant: CHANGE, CHANGE, CHANGE ...
CHANGE ... what I plan to do to America because it's the greatest country on the planet.
CHANGE ... the national anthems of all the nations of the world to Kumbaya using my messianic foreign policy skills
CHANGE ... into mumble-mouthed idiot when I don't have prepared speech to read.
CHANGE ... historical facts to agree with my life story
CHANGE ... I said the DC gun ban was constitutional, but now I agree with Supreme Court ruling it unconstitutional.
CHANGE ... what I said because my rhetoric was 'overheated and amplified'
CHANGE ... I mocked Hillary during the primary, now she "rocks".
CHANGE ... I respect McCain's service to his nation, so I sent Wesley "looser" Clark out to demean him
CHANGE ... but not for us, not the left-wing liberal elite, CHANGE is for YOU.
CHANGE ... the mortgage industry is a bunch of crooks; but I got my deal
CHANGE ... I was against welfare reform until Congress passed the Welfare Reform Act, then I "invented" it in Illinois
CHANGE ... I didn't vote to censure MoveOn.org for the "General Betray Us" ad, but now that I need some Independent votes, I'll issue a rebuke.
CHANGE ... I didn't wear an American flag pin because it was substitute for true patriotism, but I do now.
CHANGE ... I support our troops, but I'll take money from anti-military, anti-American Code Stink.
CHANGE ... when I'm president, I'll immediately bring the troops home ...
CAHNGE ... I want to bring the bring the troops home by March of 2008 ...
CHANGE ... I'll bring the troops home in sixteen months ...
CHANGE ... I'll begin to withdraw troops immediately, a division or two per month ...
CHANGE ... unless I "refine" my policies.
CHANGE ... I against partial birth abortions (sucking the brain out of a baby just before it's born) unless the mother is really really bummed.
CHANGE ... anything and everything I've said or done in my life if it will help me win
CHANGE ... the definition of change to: What I say, when I say it, to whom I say it.
CHANGE ... I can CHANGE when it suits me
CHANGE ... you can believe in ... for a day or two
CHANGE ... you can't keep up with
CHANGE ... you can see through
CHANGE ... you can count on, daily ... or more often

CHANGE ... your underwear because you'll defecate in your pants when you wake up to find out what the left-wing liberal ideologues have done after gaining complete control of government.
CHANGE ... YOU better freaking BELIEVE IN because it will WORK YOU over.


Obama: the AUDACITY to count on you and I being DOPEs

HoBama, walkin' the streets for votes ... What do you wanna hear honey?


Posted by: occam | July 7, 2008 7:49 PM | Report abuse

In John's case, he has to deal with the perception that old means borderline Alzheimer's. If the Dems can remind the people of Ronald Reagan deteriorating in the White House, and the Republicans nominate anyone close to being Cheney II for VP, the Democrats and their associated 527's can clamor about John's deteriorating mind and do you really want that VP to get control of the Administration? Even now John looks like he is conserving his strength for the fall, while Obama is out their pushing a fifty state strategy. The first time John has to get out and campaign in front of real crowds for a couple of weeks, his obvious exhaustion will be the deciding factor.

Barak, of course, is out laying down a base, thin as it is, in old red states, that can be made to look big enough that John might end up having to run hard in ex small red states where he gains virtually no traction to try to hold something.

Posted by: ceflynline@msn.com | July 7, 2008 7:35 PM | Report abuse

If he doesn't drop dead the first year in office. He has no policies just BS and it changes from week to week. Give me a break.
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The only candidate in this campaign, so far, who has had any substanitive programs and policy is McCain. The Obama camp seems more intent on defining the candidate and speaking in generalities, then specifically addressing the issues.

So far McCain has come up with a well rounded energy policy and his Iraq position has been rock solid. I can't say that about Obama. Obama's CHANGE, CHANGE, CHANGE message has worn thin. There is no change in his campaign tactics from the old line class warfare strategy of the Democratic Party.

McCain's age and experience (good or bad) should keep him strong on the issues. I just wish his surrogates would stop the type of negative statements they make about Obama and concentrate on getting the message of McCain's programs across.

Posted by: Capt Howard | July 7, 2008 6:25 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | July 7, 2008 7:00 PM | Report abuse

The only candidate in this campaign, so far, who has had any substanitive programs and policy is McCain. The Obama camp seems more intent on defining the candidate and speaking in generalities, then specifically addressing the issues.

So far McCain has come up with a well rounded energy policy and his Iraq position has been rock solid. I can't say that about Obama. Obama's CHANGE, CHANGE, CHANGE message has worn thin. There is no change in his campaign tactics from the old line class warfare strategy of the Democratic Party.

McCain's age and experience (good or bad) should keep him strong on the issues. I just wish his surrogates would stop the type of negative statements they make about Obama and concentrate on getting the message of McCain's programs across.

Posted by: Capt Howard | July 7, 2008 6:25 PM | Report abuse

By next week he will be on to something else, he is the idea of the week candidate. It would be funny if it wasn't so serious.

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In a paper released today, Sen. John McCain's (R-AZ) made the laughable claim that a McCain administration would pay off the enormous deficit through "savings from victory in the Iraq and Afghanistan operations." The claim comes on the same day McCain's campaign vowed to balance the budget in four years -- while refusing to name any specifics on how to go about achieving that goal.

UPDATEMatt Duss notes: "In McCain's view, 'victory' in Iraq means we get to stay in Iraq for 100 more years. How, exactly, does this save us money?"

Posted by: | July 7, 2008 5:20 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | July 7, 2008 6:09 PM | Report abuse

McCain = Old (19%)
McCain = Foolish (23%)
McCain = Out of Touch (31%)
McCain = Hypocritical Flip-Flopper on use of Torture (44%)
McCain = Feckless Opportunist on Environment (56%)
McCain = Not a Clue on Balanced Budget (67%)
McCain = Panders to Religious Right (81%)
McCain = No Understanding of Global Economics (93%)
McCain = Will Lose in November Because of Bush (100%)


Posted by: diamondbackfan | July 7, 2008 6:00 PM | Report abuse

the level of intelligence is getting too high on this blog. for that reason I am considering coming back.

Posted by: drindl | July 7, 2008 5:45 PM | Report abuse

As the candidate of change, I promise not to even consider tax cuts or spending cuts. I can assure you I will raise your taxes and spend loads of your money. On this, you have my solemn word.

Unless it begins to look like I may get more votes by promising something else, of course.

Posted by: snObama | July 7, 2008 5:24 PM | Report abuse


In a paper released today, Sen. John McCain's (R-AZ) made the laughable claim that a McCain administration would pay off the enormous deficit through "savings from victory in the Iraq and Afghanistan operations." The claim comes on the same day McCain's campaign vowed to balance the budget in four years -- while refusing to name any specifics on how to go about achieving that goal.

UPDATEMatt Duss notes: "In McCain's view, 'victory' in Iraq means we get to stay in Iraq for 100 more years. How, exactly, does this save us money?"

Posted by: Anonymous | July 7, 2008 5:20 PM | Report abuse

McCain Adviser: Like Bush, We'll Cut Taxes Even If We Don't Control Spending
On ABC's Good Morning America today, senior McCain campaign adviser Meg Whitman defended Sen. John McCain's (R-AZ) infamous flip-flop on the Bush tax cuts by arguing that McCain voted against them because "they were not accompanied by a decrease in government spending." "You cannot just keep tax rates low, which is what Americans want, and keep government spending growing," said Whitman.

But in a separate interview with CNBC today, Whitman contradicted this line of argument when pressed by Steve Forbes (whose ties to the McCain campaign were not disclosed). Asked by Forbes if McCain's massive tax cuts are dependent on "controlling spending," Whitman replied, "No, they are not":

FORBES: But are the tax cuts contingent on controlling spending?

WHITMAN: No, they are not contingent.

Posted by: against tax cuts for rich bfore he was for them | July 7, 2008 5:18 PM | Report abuse

Yesterday, a "wave of attacks in Baghdad and areas north of the capital...shattered a relative lull in violence, killing 16 people and injuring 15." The attacks came just one day after Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki declared that his government had "defeated" terrorism in Iraq. Today, a female suicide bomber "killed nine people and wounded 12 others in an attack on an Iraqi market."

Posted by: Anonymous | July 7, 2008 5:17 PM | Report abuse

anObama = kingofzouk = unemployed loser

Posted by: Anonymous | July 7, 2008 5:16 PM | Report abuse

"Thang change and so do people."


True, so true, sometimes I change back and forth several times a week. that is what I meant when I printed up all those change signs.

Posted by: snObama | July 7, 2008 5:01 PM | Report abuse

what happened to all my contributions? I may have to rethink the campaign finance issue one more time.

If I flip-flop back to public money, can I give a speech and have all my mindless followers think I am a saint? It's worth a try. they believe anything. And I am, after all, the PT Barnum candidate.

Posted by: snObama | July 7, 2008 4:59 PM | Report abuse

You need to step into this century. The Mccain 2000 would not even vote for Mccain 08. Thang change and so do people.

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MAVERICK VS. FOLLOWER

McCain as an maverick has my outmost respect, and I think he should advertise that. It's shows his independence from party politics.

Obama has never voted anything away from his party. He is not a leader but a follower and he has not shown any bipartisan effort in passing any "major" issues.

Posted by: Frieda | July 7, 2008 4:54 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | July 7, 2008 4:58 PM | Report abuse

McCain (1)19%=old; (2)9%=military service; (3)8%=record/qualifications:*****

Obama (1)20%=outsider/change; (2)13%=lack of experience; (3)9%=dishonest)****** I think the 2nd & 3rd choices for bama tells the story about this man. Is anyone paying attention to these words?????


Posted by: CarolTate2 | July 7, 2008 4:55 PM | Report abuse

MAVERICK VS. FOLLOWER

McCain as an maverick has my outmost respect, and I think he should advertise that. It's shows his independence from party politics.

Obama has never voted anything away from his party. He is not a leader but a follower and he has not shown any bipartisan effort in passing any "major" issues.

Posted by: Frieda | July 7, 2008 4:54 PM | Report abuse

MikeB - You would have enjoyed the bumper sticker seen recently:

IMPEACH BUSH
TORTURE CHENEY

Posted by: Anonymous | July 7, 2008 4:52 PM | Report abuse

do not associate me with that loony liberal, barack Obama. running with him will be the kiss of death to a career. winning only 12 states will be a trivia question in a few years. We had to nominate him to avoid the clinton beast. forgive us.

Posted by: Jim Webb | July 7, 2008 4:42 PM | Report abuse

The Fix concludes
"Experienced and ready is what he must shoot for; old and out of touch is what he must avoid."

Is there a Kerry parallel here? Kerry ran on his military record, but found himself trapped by the 'flip-flopper' label & a long Senate voting record. While Senator McCain doesn't seem to have a windsurfing habit, it seems he is at risk for suffering the same fate as Senator Kerry.

Posted by: bsimon | July 7, 2008 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Webb said. "Under no circumstances will I be a candidate for vice president."


this is liberal speak for "pick me, pick me".

kind of like "I will accept public finance" or "I can't disown my uncle" or "I won't show false patriotism with a flag pin".

the rule is, if a liberal says somethinig sensible, it means the opposite.

Posted by: snObama | July 7, 2008 4:29 PM | Report abuse

Yawn. We've already had the change vs. "experience" showdown. This one will end similarly.

The media needs a horse race, and will do its best to create one. After all, the fact that McCain wants to stay in Iraq for 100 years, doesn't understand the economy (his words), and apparently intends to balance the budget using pixie dust barely rates coverage. Obama wins the election easily if the candidates' respective policy positions are adequately reported...and that doesn't make good copy.

Even a blog about the game of politics can discuss how voters will react to actual policies.

Next up: let's manufacture a meaningless controversy and fake some outrage!

Posted by: saucy sauce | July 7, 2008 4:29 PM | Report abuse

Join me in a stroll across the bridge back to 1978 - for Jimmy Carter's second term. we'll show them that fecklessness, cowardice, incompetence and liberal idiocy is still viable. If accepting those moronic notions isn'c change, I don't know what is.

Posted by: snObama | July 7, 2008 4:25 PM | Report abuse

No one ever wants to look like they are seeking anything. They are all laying back right now to see what happens with Hillary. Also, no one wants to look like they want it and be passed over. Believe me, he wants to be VP and so do a lot of others. Are you kidding, this is the world they live in. Who wants to be a day to day washington no body dealing with everyday BS in total anonymity when they can be on the world stage and a step away from being the president yourself. Don't kid yourself.

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"Last week I communicated to Sen. Obama and his presidential campaign my firm intention to remain in the United States Senate, where I believe I am best equipped to serve the people of Virginia and this country," Webb said. "Under no circumstances will I be a candidate for vice president."

why doesn't anyone want to team with the bamboozler?

Posted by: alone | July 7, 2008 4:04 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | July 7, 2008 4:25 PM | Report abuse

McCain's campaign is like a Seinfield show -- about nothing.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 7, 2008 4:18 PM | Report abuse

I have no life -- that's why I post on this blog all day under phony names. All day -- every day.

Posted by: kingofzouk | July 7, 2008 4:16 PM | Report abuse

ANON COWARD POSTING AT "Posted by: | July 7, 2008 3:41 PM ". You may have missed he point. I figure you're a right winger and therefore are a besotted Fix Noise junkie and therefore dumb as a post so I'll spell it out. The foreign press is ANGRY because we provide a safe haven for criminals who are running the old Enron price fixing scheme on oil and it is causing them grief. Wall Streets mortgage Ponzi Shcme alreayd cost European banks well in excess of 1.5 trillion dollars and they think enough is enough. They don't much care if we wreck our own country, offshore our jobs, do without health carfe or infrastructure, or are ruled by corrupt swine or get our news from an entire pretend news network run by an insane Australian pirate. We're idiots because we haven't impeached Bush, haven't rounded up the Wall Street crowd and introduced the use of the guillotine as an appropriate punishment, and are thought suicidally foolish because we have allowed a look alike to Bush (only older and even crazier...the term, I believe, is "old coot") to even be seriously considered for election to our highest office, even while he is promising to ship our jobs offshore.

Posted by: mibrooks27 | July 7, 2008 4:15 PM | Report abuse

McCain IS old -- there's no need for code words. And out of touch? the man has never even tried to use a computer. Never. Even. Tried. No email --nothing.

He''s a neanderthal.

Posted by: Sammy | July 7, 2008 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Can you all do me a favor and just go ahead and forget all that stuff I said about judgment. I now understand that the war was going badly until the surge, something which my own judgment led me to proclaim a mistake.

Meanwhile, the other guy, advocated for the surge all along and in hindsight, turned out to be correct - or in plain terms, the source of good judgment, while I clearly have none.

Posted by: snObama | July 7, 2008 4:08 PM | Report abuse

"Last week I communicated to Sen. Obama and his presidential campaign my firm intention to remain in the United States Senate, where I believe I am best equipped to serve the people of Virginia and this country," Webb said. "Under no circumstances will I be a candidate for vice president."

why doesn't anyone want to team with the bamboozler?

Posted by: alone | July 7, 2008 4:04 PM | Report abuse

McOld will look even older when he is side by side with Obama. Come November he will be worse off than Bob Dole was.

Posted by: Patrick NYC | July 7, 2008 3:43 PM | Report abuse

"You might want to direct your candidates attention to the furry of articles appearing in the European press about American commodity speculators... The anger in Europe is directed at our tolerating criminal actions by Wall Street in the name of "globalization"."


Citing the foreign press in an anti-globalization rant...


priceless!

Posted by: Anonymous | July 7, 2008 3:41 PM | Report abuse

dcp, other McCain supporters - You might want to direct your candidates attention to the furry of articles appearing in the European press about American commodity speculators. Here's a particularely good one, "How Speculators Are Causing the Cost of Living to Skyrocket" - http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,559550,00.html

The anger in Europe is directed at our tolerating criminal actions by Wall Street in the name of "globalization". It seems our country is now perceived as a haven for these criminal scum who are foisting their Enron like price manipulation schemes off on the entire world. These are McCain's buddies, tied around his neck like one of those gasoline filled tires using in "necklassing". Globalization has been devistating to the average voter and they are getting increasing angry and aware of it. McCain is going to bury the entire Republican's Party with his nonsensical justification of it. Before this campaign is over, "free trade" will be something everyone is aware of and no one will want to be associated with it. Just wait.

Even France now has a lower unemployment rate and a healthier economy than the U.S.

Posted by: mibrooks27 | July 7, 2008 3:36 PM | Report abuse

McCain is still campaigning? I thought he just spent a week in South America. We know weekends are for resting. Time for a nap.

Posted by: Crempole Stalwart | July 7, 2008 3:33 PM | Report abuse

Chris, can you forward this message to McCain's Campaign? I posted this on July 4th:
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Re: New Tactics Found

Edward, I enjoyed reading your article. Yes "mud-sliding" is not new as a strategy, yet I found interesting tactics being used by Obama Campaign.

David Axelrod sank Hillary's Steel Ship with his phony product, Obama for whom he painted as a black-liberal-Christian, and he now dares to swiftboat McCain with the same tactics that Karl Rove had sank his Kerry Campaign. He even launched "the counter-smear campaign," while spreading rumors against McCain.

I found something new: David added his own version of "mesmerizing strategy" using Obama's exotic identities. Obama was successful mobilizing people by appealing to different types of audience with his multiple-identities, while selling the messages of "hope" and "dreams." They donated $25 each repeatedly, believing in his false promises.
He thus got enough number of supporters to threaten the Clinton Machine.

Here is what he did when attacking Hillary's Ship: "hit-the-nerve" to make her gets emotional, while keeping cool; "hot-jabs" to make Hillary get into vis-à-vis fights to make her cheap-and-childish; "pre-emptive strikes" to disguise his disadvantageous positions, such as foreign policy or timing of Iraq withdrawal; "identify with her positions" to make his positions same-status-as-Hillary's; "wait-and-see" until the press gave him a pass with praise-and-laud, while Hillary was screaming for plagiarism; "mine-equals-yours" policy-discourse making by tapping into the left-wing bloggers' sites, while refining their voices as if theirs were his; and then "holding a press conference" to impress the media with his rhetorical eloquence, while appealing to the psychology of white-sin-and-collective-guilt.

Obama thus won the battle easily, while Hillary was blaming sexism and media bias. Then, he gave her "the benefit of doubt" enough to get hit by the media, while making himself gracious-and-noble. He knew that he would win; he knew that he would need to shift his positions. Then, he compromised several positions seducing the Party Leaders, while making them as a group of collective-losers-and-accomplices.

Therefore, he got what he needs: nomination, money, reputation, and Big Donors by denouncing the Public Financing System. When he is pressed by the media, he wears an innocent black face; when his voters are angry, he is compassionate symphonizing his rhetoric with them, "Look, I hear your voices and concerns...I was raised by a single mother."

What I found interesting is David's version of "sniper-fire" tactic in that Obama Campaign "swiftboats" its crew members one-by-one when he needs an excuse or defends himself for changing his positions more than once, as he did to Rev. Wright, Trinity Church, and Clark, while distancing himself from all of them. You can simply guess who the next person could be.

I do not recall Karl Rove ever used such cruel, dirty tactics against Kerry or Gore Campaign. I am glad that Obama's Ship is being back-fired with his own arrogance and cruelty and will be sinking with his self-inflicted wounds.

If David were a professional painter, then Obama could have been the first black president of the United States. Today, he is wearing an Independent face in Montana. Unfortunately, his joker card, "racism," is gone because he has changed his faces so many times, and David's painting skills are gaudy.

So, think about who spread the series of emails that "Obama is a Muslim." Right-wing-racists? NO. He copied such tactics from Clinton's counter-terrorism tactics: He is not that naïve or stupid. He studies hard, stupid.

Posted by: Premier | July 7, 2008 3:33 PM | Report abuse

I am glad to hear that "McCain is seeking to turn this race into a personality contest rather than a detailed policy debate." That is the right direction.

McCain has to focus on his credentials only instead of attacking Obama. Obama is not even comparable. There are no cards for Obama to play: He does not have any "issues" to win in the debate. McCain all has it.

His Campaign should run a Noble Campaign as I suggested earlier. The burden of proof--qualification or delectability--is on Obama.

So why do you run a negative campaign chasing and charging him that he is "someone" who is not qualified? Why do you paint him? It is not even worth.

The more McCain talks about him and his vision, the more Obama loses.

Posted by: Premier | July 7, 2008 3:26 PM | Report abuse

--"Given those results, it's not at all surprising that McCain is seeking to turn this race into a personality contest rather than a detailed policy debate."--

That has an implication that Obama is striving to avoid a personality contest. However Obama often uses the word "judgment" when discussing issues such as the Iraq war. One cannot put much distance between "judgment" and "character" (or "personality").

Judgment is not a reflection of intelligence, experience or much else. When appalled at my lack of judgment my better-half summarizes as "it's just common sense. D*mnsh*t.". FWIW - She ends her verbal tirade at the first period, leaving the summary version unsaid.

Posted by: NoOneImportant | July 7, 2008 3:18 PM | Report abuse

Chris Cillizza is not far off about what Sen. McCain needs to do.

As far as what Sen. Obama needs to do: if you're facing a well-liked and respected opponent in a race to succeed a President with approval ratings in the mid-20s, focusing your attention on the former instead of the latter is really doing things the hard way.

Presidential elections are never about the future, campaign rhetoric notwithstanding. They are referenda on the administration in power. If people are happy with the incumbent President and he is not running for another term, the candidate of the other party has a chance. If people are unhappy with the incumbent President, the candidate of the President's party is at a hopeless disadvantage.

In this race, Sen. Obama has the advantages and disadvantages of being a blank slate to most voters. Voters can project qualities they like onto him -- but on the other hand they don't really know him or what kind of President he'd be. To define himself in that way, Obama needs to compare himself to Bush, not McCain. Doing this is the best way to remind voters of all the things they dislike about Bush; it also forces McCain to either waste time defending Bush or alienate that part of the Republican base that still admires the President.

McCain was forced into the hopeless position of embracing Bush's major policies because that was the only way he could be nominated. His association with Bush is his major weakness now; without that, in a straight race between McCain and Obama in which Bush is not a factor, McCain wins. McCain's ability to keep Bush from being a factor is limited, but Obama has the ability to make Bush a central element in the race. If he does that, there is no way McCain can win.

Posted by: Zathras | July 7, 2008 3:13 PM | Report abuse

It's looking to be a tough year for Republicans. They are being blamed for the economy and the ongoing lack of response to communities affected by Katrina in Louisiana and Missouri. Plus the ill conceived and executed war in Iraq, leaving Al Qaeda a chance to re-group in Pakistan/Afghnaistan. Not to mention the soaring gas prices and energy policies of the current administration. That is just the short list of what Republicans are being blamed for. ^_^

I agree with others that it is still early and the race probably will be a close one. The women's vote will be key. I do hope Senator McCain refrains from making more wife beating jokes-maybe in the past those were acceptable, but no longer.

Posted by: brian | July 7, 2008 3:10 PM | Report abuse

And the candidates still need to get good VP's.

http://www.votenic.com

The only 2008 Presidential Election Weekly Poll Run By a Kid.

Posted by: Gremis | July 7, 2008 3:01 PM | Report abuse

McCain doesn't have to do jack. Just sit back and watch Obama dance all over the issues. He's already shedding the far left wing of his base with his fudges on the war and faith-based initiatives. He keeps doing this, McCain may not have to campaign at all.

Posted by: dcp | July 7, 2008 2:39 PM | Report abuse

Among the many fine lines the McCain campaign is trying to walk is arguing for copious experience while arguing against age as a handicap.

Much like their problem of both appeasing the base & pandering to the independent vote - its nearly impossible to do both.

If I were The Fix I would be wondering how the McCain campaign is going to turn old, military service & record/qualifications into new ideas to spur the economy. Is there anyone left in the country (that's not already part of the dwindling GOP base) who thinks making tax cuts permanent is going to move this country back onto solid economic ground?

Posted by: bsimon | July 7, 2008 2:31 PM | Report abuse

Honestly, I don't think the Mccain group know how to win. You just assume they know what they are doing, they are professionals but they keep showing they don't. I don't see how anyone can win without a winning campaign. What does Mccain think, he can just pray for peoples votes. His supporters have hooked their wagons to a loser. I don't mean that in a derogatory way, it is an honest observation and I think most agree. Mccain can only win in spite of himself and I don't think there are enough votes out there for him fort that to happen. Obamas campaign is fine tuned and going to finish in a Crechendo. Mccains is a shambles, it hardly even resembles a campaign. They don't even have campaign offices opened yet in most areas. Almost no one on the ground, no organization what so ever. How the hell does Mccain expect to win?

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McCain needs to focus on the nuts and bolts of his campaign. People aren't really paying attention yet and August will be consumed by the Olympics (which I personally abhor. How do the networks manage to show no sports over a couple week long sporting event?) Then they have the conventions and a two month race to election day.

Since McCain chose to squander the last several months since he wrapped up the Republican nomination he would be well advised to tool up a campaign that can come out swinging on Sept 5. A campaign that can paint Obama as an ivory tower idealist who can't relate to day to day problems. McCain needs to remind people why they like him, why he is not Bush and why Obama would not be a good choice. That means getting dirty on national policy and the economy/energy. Not dirty as in sleazy politics, but dirty as in calling for an oil well in every backyard or ramming new refineries through the permitting process. Dirty as in action, doing things, disrupting the status quo. A strategy that tries to limit the damage on the economy/energy is a losing strategy. McCain needs to own it, and to a lesser degree foreign policy, if he is going to pull off an upset.

Policy in Presidential elections is less about actual policy and more about personality. Unlike columnists and talking heads, voters know that they don't know how to fix countries. They know what stuff is broken, but they leave the fixing to people they trust. McCain can't beat Obama on change and he can't beat him on rhetoric. But in hard times, a fighter is a perfectly acceptable person to elect to the White House. McCain can be a fighter. If he can retool his campaign to be about fighting for the people and policies that reflect his ornery, fighting nature, then he stands a slim chance in his uphill race.

Posted by: muD | July 7, 2008 2:05 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | July 7, 2008 2:23 PM | Report abuse

straight talk vs bamboozeler
victory vs defeat
savings vs taxes
individual vs nanny
experience vs naivite
McCain or Obama

Posted by: uchoose | July 7, 2008 2:09 PM | Report abuse

The elderly vote is a false premiss. They more then anybody know how unqualified he is. They just have to look in the mirror. To get the elderly vote you don't have to be elderly, just care about their issues. They don't want some old codger for president, just someone who cares about them. Mccain by the way doesn't care about the elderly. He thinks they should take care of themselves.

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I wish people would stop harping on McCain's age.

Yes, he's old. But that's hardly the only thing wrong with him. He panders and lies while pretending that he's all about "straight talk". His policies would be harmful to the nation. In many cases, they already have been harmful, because they're the same as Bush's. He'd do absolutely nothing to put this country back on the right track.

McCain would make a terrible president for reasons that have nothing to do with his age. Bashing him for his age actually helps McCain as a candidate, because it focuses on a minor flaw that he can't help. And remember that the elderly vote more than any other demographic, so age-bashing is especially counterproductive. Talk about the real issues, not just his age.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 7, 2008 2:08 PM | Report abuse

McCain needs to focus on the nuts and bolts of his campaign. People aren't really paying attention yet and August will be consumed by the Olympics (which I personally abhor. How do the networks manage to show no sports over a couple week long sporting event?) Then they have the conventions and a two month race to election day.

Since McCain chose to squander the last several months since he wrapped up the Republican nomination he would be well advised to tool up a campaign that can come out swinging on Sept 5. A campaign that can paint Obama as an ivory tower idealist who can't relate to day to day problems. McCain needs to remind people why they like him, why he is not Bush and why Obama would not be a good choice. That means getting dirty on national policy and the economy/energy. Not dirty as in sleazy politics, but dirty as in calling for an oil well in every backyard or ramming new refineries through the permitting process. Dirty as in action, doing things, disrupting the status quo. A strategy that tries to limit the damage on the economy/energy is a losing strategy. McCain needs to own it, and to a lesser degree foreign policy, if he is going to pull off an upset.

Policy in Presidential elections is less about actual policy and more about personality. Unlike columnists and talking heads, voters know that they don't know how to fix countries. They know what stuff is broken, but they leave the fixing to people they trust. McCain can't beat Obama on change and he can't beat him on rhetoric. But in hard times, a fighter is a perfectly acceptable person to elect to the White House. McCain can be a fighter. If he can retool his campaign to be about fighting for the people and policies that reflect his ornery, fighting nature, then he stands a slim chance in his uphill race.

Posted by: muD | July 7, 2008 2:05 PM | Report abuse

seeing the average life expectancy is 75.2 for a male Mccain is pushing the envelope already. He is not even a good 72. I know guys who play tennis every day and another who runs 5 miles a day. Mccain is held together by his doctors or he would have been dead a long time ago. He is a terrible example of a 72 year old.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 7, 2008 2:04 PM | Report abuse

I wish people would stop harping on McCain's age.

Yes, he's old. But that's hardly the only thing wrong with him. He panders and lies while pretending that he's all about "straight talk". His policies would be harmful to the nation. In many cases, they already have been harmful, because they're the same as Bush's. He'd do absolutely nothing to put this country back on the right track.

McCain would make a terrible president for reasons that have nothing to do with his age. Bashing him for his age actually helps McCain as a candidate, because it focuses on a minor flaw that he can't help. And remember that the elderly vote more than any other demographic, so age-bashing is especially counterproductive. Talk about the real issues, not just his age.

Posted by: Blarg | July 7, 2008 2:01 PM | Report abuse

In a recent poll when asked about age. 40% said age was an issue, thats a lot. Only 20% said being a woman or races made any difference. Mccain is already stumbling around and it only figures to get worse. He can't even remember his own talking points sometimes even though he has said them hundreds of times. I am sorry, 72 is not experience, it is old as in old age,as in mentally diminished, as in forgetting, as in can't trust your own instincts and thoughts. When asked if a person of 72 years of age would have diminished mental abilities. One of the the top researcher in geriatrics answered the chances are 100%. They also added they would continue to diminish exponential. In other words the difference going from say 40 years of age to 50 may show not change what so ever. Going from 70 to 80 the person would change dramatically in that age range. All you need is an elderly family member to know this is true. The chances Mccain could serve out even one term bringing him to 76 years of age, while under the pressures and stress of one of the most demanding jobs in the world is remote at best. He will most likely have to turn things over to his VP at some point if elected, and that is if he doesn't just plain die. It is almost a certainty.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 7, 2008 1:51 PM | Report abuse

One thing is for sure: This is going to be a humdinger of a race!!!!

Posted by: Kurt | July 7, 2008 1:45 PM | Report abuse

McCain needs to have voters think something besides "old" when they think of him. This is an example of how poorly his campaign did in the months they had to retool his image.

http://www.political-buzz.com/

Posted by: matt | July 7, 2008 1:34 PM | Report abuse

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