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Palin Does Palin on "SNL"

Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin confronted her tormentors last night on "Saturday Night Live" with a brief appearance on the sketch comedy show.

Did she change any minds out there?

By Chris Cillizza  |  October 19, 2008; 3:00 PM ET
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What was up with America's Prom Queen refusing to do the skit at the end? I thought the Dems were supposed to be the indecisive cowardly ones.

Posted by: light_bearer | October 21, 2008 1:50 AM | Report abuse

Dan Quayle, anyone?

Posted by: StageMom | October 20, 2008 8:54 PM | Report abuse

I don't guess anybody has figured out how "managed care" for "heart disease" and diabetes works yet? "Managed care" is part of Medicare -- which the rich do not pay tax on for dividends, interest, or capital gains!

Obama stated in the third debated that his fix for the health care system was taking "heart disease" and diabetes out of coverage under health insurance and placing them in "managed care".

Where is Medicare going to get the funding to pay those costs that are already killing the health care system? Medicare doesn't have the regular social security limits now?

Let us not forget that payroll taxes is already one of the largest killers of small business in America -- and now it will need to increase for the Obama health care fix as well as his increase to the minimum wage!

Methinks Obama says one thing and explains another. He talks the middle class talk, but he walks the free ride for the rich walk!

Posted by: taxrice | October 20, 2008 6:20 PM | Report abuse

Anyone else notice that Alec Baldwin was unable to say his lines without looking that the cue cards? Or was it that he could not look at Sarah Palin in the eye?

Posted by: Verrazzano | October 20, 2008 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Joe the P is a typical hard right wing Ohian.....home of some of the stupidest, most bigoted people in America (along with Indiana).

Joe's take on social security? He hates it. Thinks its a give away program - would rather invest his own money - until of course he found himself ready to retire and broke.

Flat tax? Joe loves it. Thinks its a great idea.....everyone should pay the same percentage - say 20% - whether they are paupers or billionairs. Problem comes when defining income - seems only W-2 income "counts" to be taxed. "income" from investmests or capital gains for example wouldn't be counted as "income". Result? Working stiffs pay on every dime and trust fund girls like Cindy Mcsame would pay nothing.

Patriotism - we don't have enough of it. Those who don't believe like Joe are "unpatriotic" and dont love this country as much as he does. Military solutions first, last and always. Wave the flag - speak of Jesus.

We have had enough of these morons.

Not this time. Not this year.

Posted by: toritto | October 20, 2008 2:39 PM | Report abuse

SNL seemed unusually respectful of Palin. It was still funny. As far as all of this Joe the plumber crap, most tradesmen I know, and I have been a carpenter for 30 years, most tradesman think they can run their bosses' business es better than their boss does. Most also believe the boss makes way more money than he actually does! It would be quite a while before Joe the plumber would have worry about his tax rate being to high, and if he wwas doing well, taxes would be among the least of his problems!

Posted by: 2Funny | October 20, 2008 2:21 PM | Report abuse

Thanks to poppasmoke for doing the math! (Check out his comment @ 7:05 pm)... so much for the wild allegation that an Obama tax increase will suddenly impoverish the entrepreneur classes and put everyone out of work!

If your side has to lie to win, its because they know the truth isn't on their side.

Republicans for Obama!

Posted by: Iconoblaster | October 20, 2008 2:20 PM | Report abuse

Let's attack Joe the Plumber. Not surprising is this was the Obama strategy when Palin was announced as McCain's VP candidate. Forget issues, attack the individual. Is this the CHANGE we have HOPED for?

Posted by: Verrazzano | October 20, 2008 1:11 PM | Report abuse

That's not true about the cast of SNL, I saw several of them hugging and chatting with Palin at the end of the show.

You dems...so petty.
She was great..it's done...move on.

Nice job Sarah!

Posted by: blevins20061 | October 20, 2008 12:33 PM | Report abuse

RE: Karl Marx quote on Oct 19th. Check out the New Testament to see where this idea came from . . . "Now the full number of those who believed were of one heart and soul, and no one said that any of the things that belonged to him was his own, but they had everything in common. And with great power the apostles were giving their testimony to the resurrection of the Lord Jesus, and great grace was upon them all. There was not a needy person among them, for as many as were owners of lands or houses sold them and brought the proceeds of what was sold and laid it at the apostles' feet, and it was distributed to each as any had need. Thus Joseph, who was also called by the apostles Barnabas (which means son of encouragement), a Levite, a native of Cyprus, sold a field that belonged to him and brought the money and laid it at the apostles' feet." (Acts 4:32-37)

Posted by: wftphd | October 20, 2008 11:10 AM | Report abuse

Joe the Plumber -- a typical die-hard broke-a$$ Republican voter -- gullible enough to vote against his own interests.

Enough already about Joe, er, Sam, the "plumber," er, handyman.

Joe, the only you'll get any good out of supporting McCain is if he personally pays you off for selling the rest of America out. That's like, "McCain First, Joe Second, America Dead Last."

Posted by: lonquest | October 20, 2008 10:53 AM | Report abuse

"Posted by: thecannula | October 19, 2008 7:35 PM |

THIS MAN IS A WHINER. MOST SMALL BUSINESSES WON'T BE AFFECTED. THIS MAN IS WORRIED THAT HE MAY HAVE TO PAY AN EXTRA 15-20 OR 25K." -GATOR RON

***************
Obama Takes A HATCHET To Small Business

If you work for a small business, its profits -should Obama be elected- will be taxed at near 60% once it breaks Obama’s magic 250K, Because-

FOR THE FIRST TIME IN HISTORY OBAMA WANTS TO REMOVE THE SOCIAL SECURITY PAYROLL CAP CREATING A 15.65% ADDITIONAL TAX ABOVE THE 3% ADDED INCOME TAX at this level, since LLC’s and Subchapter S small business profits pass through to the owner’s personal 1040!

If you’re the owner, you’re going to be tempted to do more with less and lay someone off-

If you’re an employee- you may, because of this new penalty on progress, be laid off.

John McCain wants to reduce business taxes and grow the economy, rather than squeeze the last drop of juice out of every successful business, large, medium, and small!
Exxon made billions, but why use a HATCHET to treat small and medium sized businesses the SAME WAY Sen.Obama?

“From each according to this ability, to each according to his need”
K.Marx 1875
B.Obama 2008

Someone Please point out how Marx's comment is different from what Obama said to Joe the Plumber in OHIO???????????????

GatorRon- Are YOU quoting Phil Graham with that brilliant "Whiner" remark? It's a LOT more than 25K, but even it were- that's one salaried position in some businesses....multiplied by millions of small businesses and many more positions per large business.

Hey ReptileGuy, can you say 12% unemployment? (I knew you could).


Posted by: thecannula | October 20, 2008 8:54 AM | Report abuse
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Do you just plan on posting this lie over and over everyday?
The current rate is 36% over $250K. It will go up to 39% for only that that is over $250K. The first $250K will still be the current 36%. That means if someone makes $270,000.00 they will pay 3% more on the amount over and above $250K net. So they will pay an added 3% of the $20,000. Thats an additional $600.00 for the year on a net income of $270,000.00. Are you telling me people will have to lay off workers or close their business over $50.00 a month? Mccain must think he is talking to people who are just plain stupid. Trust me, anyone making that kind of money knows what is what and knows Mccain is feeding them a line of sh&t. I wonder who does he thinks he is talking to? Mccain goes from one nutty set of lies to another. This week is his bullsh&t about taxes.
Posted by: popasmoke | October 19, 2008 7:05 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: popasmoke | October 20, 2008 9:02 AM | Report abuse

"Posted by: thecannula | October 19, 2008 7:35 PM |

THIS MAN IS A WHINER. MOST SMALL BUSINESSES WON'T BE AFFECTED. THIS MAN IS WORRIED THAT HE MAY HAVE TO PAY AN EXTRA 15-20 OR 25K." -GATOR RON

***************
Obama Takes A HATCHET To Small Business

If you work for a small business, its profits -should Obama be elected- will be taxed at near 60% once it breaks Obama’s magic 250K, Because-

FOR THE FIRST TIME IN HISTORY OBAMA WANTS TO REMOVE THE SOCIAL SECURITY PAYROLL CAP CREATING A 15.65% ADDITIONAL TAX ABOVE THE 3% ADDED INCOME TAX at this level, since LLC’s and Subchapter S small business profits pass through to the owner’s personal 1040!

If you’re the owner, you’re going to be tempted to do more with less and lay someone off-

If you’re an employee- you may, because of this new penalty on progress, be laid off.

John McCain wants to reduce business taxes and grow the economy, rather than squeeze the last drop of juice out of every successful business, large, medium, and small!
Exxon made billions, but why use a HATCHET to treat small and medium sized businesses the SAME WAY Sen.Obama?

“From each according to this ability, to each according to his need”
K.Marx 1875
B.Obama 2008

Someone Please point out how Marx's comment is different from what Obama said to Joe the Plumber in OHIO???????????????

GatorRon- Are YOU quoting Phil Graham with that brilliant "Whiner" remark? It's a LOT more than 25K, but even it were- that's one salaried position in some businesses....multiplied by millions of small businesses and many more positions per large business.

Hey ReptileGuy, can you say 12% unemployment? (I knew you could).


Posted by: thecannula | October 20, 2008 8:54 AM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin photographed while discussing her sex life with Todd. Not sure what she is referring to but Todd may want to shut her up.

http://www.nationalenquirer.com/images/ne/209602/59763.jpg

Posted by: popasmoke | October 20, 2008 4:32 AM | Report abuse

EXPECT A FLORIDA SURPRISE FOR THE DEMARCATES IN NOV.
DOING SOME INDEPENDENT CHECKING IT IS AMAZING. SOME OF FLORIDA'S MOST REDNECKISH NORTHERS COUNTIES HAVE NOW A HIGH CONCENTRATION OF NEWLEY REGISTERED DEMARCATES. IN SEVERAL CASES DEM'S AND INDEPENDENTS OUTNUMBER REPUBLICANS 2 TO 1. I AM NOT SURE WHO THEY ARE POLLING BUT I THINK FLORIDA IS BRIGHT BLUE NOW.

Posted by: popasmoke | October 20, 2008 3:09 AM | Report abuse

JOE THE PLUMBER FLUSHED

The nation's newest celeb Joe the Plumber is a fraud. A possible GOP plant, "Joe" is related to Charles Keating of The Keating 5 bank scandal that rocked John McCain!

Joe Wurzelbacher, an Ohio plumber, thrust into the national spotlight after he was mentioned 24 times during the final Presidential debate by Senator John McCain, isn't even a licensed plumber.

State licensing agencies in Ohio showed no license registered under his name. Nor is he a member of the plumber's union he claimed to be enrolled in on his MySpace page. His name is listed in the telephone books as "Samuel".

More amazingly, this "Joe" may be a Republican mole with deep ties to a scandalous past.

Joe Wurzelbacher is the son of Robert Wurzelbacher - the son-in-law of Charles Keating - The Charles Keating of the Keating 5 scandal - for which Sen. John McCain was reprimanded by the Senate for his part in attempting to illegally influence government regulators, according to The Huffington Post.

Robert Wurzelbacher was an exec of American Continental Corp., the parent company of
Charles Keating's Lincoln Savings. That's the bank that failed causing many to lose their life savings and cost US taxpayers $4.3 billion.

As a result Joe the Plumber's dada, Robert, pleaded guilty to misappropriating $14 million, serving 40 months in federal prison.

"Congratulations - you're rich!' 'You betcha!"

Meanwhile the real plumbers union -- United Association of Plumbers and Pipefitters have endorsed Democratic candidate Barack Obama.

That's called turning the screw or lug nut. Away goes trouble down the drain............

Posted by: popasmoke | October 20, 2008 2:27 AM | Report abuse

armpeg _ Your ignorance of history is staggering. Your "points" are lifted straight from the Fox spin machine and everyone with an ounce of knowledge understands that the baffoons there, and the NeoCon clodhoppers who they support, brought this mess upon us. The $850 billion bailout is a consequence of their criminal actions. What we need is an international court, a Nuremberg type of trial, that would put the politician's, advisors, appointee's, Wall Street traders (better written as "Wall Street traitors"), brokers, the entire collection of crooks on trial as people who have committed crimes against humanity. Your NeoCon nitwits brought down the economy of the entire world with their fraud and schemes. If you truly believe the nonsense you write, call for such a trial and let the cars fall where they may. If not, then shut up, you right wing nuts have done quite enough damage. Either way, quit spinning, reinventing history, No one believes you.

Posted by: mibrooks27 | October 20, 2008 1:36 AM | Report abuse

"McCain-Palin, I Got You Babe"
(I Got You Babe, Sonny & Cher)
WilliamBanzai7

[HER:] They say we're dumb and we don't know
We won't find out until we know
[HIM:] Well I don't know if all that's true
'Cause you got me, and baby I got you

[HIM:] Babe
[BOTH:] I got you babe I got you babe

[HER:] They say our campaign don't pay the rent
Before it's earned, our money's all been spent
[HIM:] I guess that's so, we don't have a pot
But at least I'm sure of all the things we got

[HIM:] Babe
[BOTH:] I got you babe I got you babe

[HIM:] I got a plumber fixin the sink I got you to wear my VP ring
[HER:] And when I'm sad, you're a clown
And if I get scared, you're always fartin around
[HER:] So let them say your hair's too gray
'Cause I don't care, with you I just can't use my bong
[HIM:] Then put your little hand in mine
There ain't no political hill or mountain we can't climb

[HIM:] Babe
[BOTH:] I got you babe I got you babe

[HIM:] I got you to hold my running mate hand
[HER:] I got you to misunderstand
[HIM:] I got you to walk the media plank
[HER:] I got you to talk gibberish with me
[HIM:] I got you to for the good fight
[HER:] I got you to aim my rifle sight
[HIM:] I got you, I won't let go
[HER:] I got you to endorse me even though...

[BOTH:] I got you babe

Posted by: williambanzai7 | October 20, 2008 1:12 AM | Report abuse

It seems most everyone here is taking the SNL skit way too seriously. SNL has a history of poking fun at most everyone. After all, it is a comedy show.

All folks need to laugh at themselves from time to time and I think it is cool that Sarah Palin made an appearance on SNL.

As to it would changing anyone's mind about her, that was not the point; it was comedy after all. Besides, I suspect most folks have already made up their minds about Sarah.

Tom

Posted by: TomL1 | October 19, 2008 11:53 PM | Report abuse

officermancuso 10:45 The primary reason for the $700 billion bailout of the banks, was because of the Democrat Socialists bright idea to force the banks to give mortgage loans to people who couldn't pay it back. It was the Democrat Socialists who threatened these banks with law suits for discrimination, red-lining and racial lending practices. It was the Democrat Socialists who forced these banks to accept as collateral the value of these peoples food stamps and their welfare check. It was the Democrat Socialists who voted against the President Bush and Republican bills of 2003, and again in 2005--that forsaw this meltdown coming and wanted to try to stop it--who killed both bills. EVERY DEMOCRAT SOCIALIST IN CONGRESS, INCLUDING OBAMA AND BIDEN, VOTED AGAINST BOTH BILLS AND EVERY REPUBLICAN VOTED FOR IT. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out who was primarily responsible for the bank meltdown that we taxpayers have to shell out $700 billion for. It also doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that forcing banks and lending institutions to give loans to people who couldn't pay it back was a Democrat Socialist experiment to give people houses at taxpayers expense because everyone knew that eventually the do-do would hit the fan. It's a good thing for you liberal Socialists that the Main Stream Media is nothing more than your propaganda arm who are the gatekeepers of all news. It's the reason the American people haven't learned the true reason why they're bailing out the banks to the tune of $700 billion. If the Republicans had been responsible for this mess, the $700 billion bailout would be another Watergate.

Posted by: armpeg | October 19, 2008 11:48 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin has no need to change anyone's mind, even if that motley crew of far left Socialists that run SNL had a mind to change. She was a great pick by McCain and will make a great VP and, if needed, a great president. My middle finger to SNL and the rest of the Obamanista America--haters.

Posted by: armpeg | October 19, 2008 10:02 PM | Report abuse
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REMEMBER SPIRO AGNEW?

Am I the only one who sees what is going on here with Palin? We all know she has no qualifications and she was just picked as window dressing and as a stooge to say what ever they put in her mouth. No candidate in their right mind would really want her on their ticket. This is what I think will happen and may already be secretly in the plan.

If Mccain manages to get elected, they will get rid of Palin as soon as they can, using all of the scandal surrounding her as the reason. There is already information of drug use by her son and both daughters and Enquirer has eluded to something coming out about Palin and her husband are regular drug users. Once rid of her, Mcain then will put in Lieberman like he wanted to all along and that is how it will play out. What do you think, make sense?

Posted by: popasmoke | October 19, 2008 11:45 PM | Report abuse

Change any minds? A mediocre and brief appearance on a comedy in lieu of real interviews should convince people that Palin is qualified to be VP or President? She's not qualified, and everyone with two brain cells to knock together knows it.

Posted by: Cyclopsina | October 19, 2008 11:24 PM | Report abuse

I don't think it sets back people's thinking about woman candidates, because she was a desperation pick. McCain would never have picked her had he truly been on an even footing with Obama. So she's basically just a redux of Geraldine Ferraro, with one difference: her appeal to the party base is based on her extreme right-wing views, while Ferraro's was mainly based on her gender (if Palin had a Centrist profile, most GOP faithful wouldn't cross the street to spit on her put out a fire in her beehive hairdo).
The best thing for the future of women in Presidential politics this year was Hillary's near miss.

Posted by: Budikavlan | October 19, 2008 11:08 PM | Report abuse

I love the way people who work for a living in the USA have become "far left socialists" simply by virtue of suffering through a time when they're being taxed to bail out investment banks.

Posted by: officermancuso | October 19, 2008 10:45 PM | Report abuse

To answer your question, Chris-- I doubt it. She may get points for going on a late-night comedy show but she still isn't answering questions or showing that she can handle an ordinary press conference.

She isn't ready to be President and she knows it, which is why she's hiding in plain sight. But that's okay-- in another couple of weeks, she'll be a footnote in our kids' history books.

Posted by: drewbitt | October 19, 2008 10:18 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin has no need to change anyone's mind, even if that motley crew of far left Socialists that run SNL had a mind to change. She was a great pick by McCain and will make a great VP and, if needed, a great president. My middle finger to SNL and the rest of the Obamanista America--haters.

Posted by: armpeg | October 19, 2008 10:02 PM | Report abuse

When Alec Baldwin said that Sarah Palin was way HOTTER in person, there was a collective groan from women all across America.
We have worked so hard to be judged by the contents of our minds, not the contents of our bras.
And then John McCain appoints a bimbo as VP. This sets back serious consideration of a woman candidate for a long time.
Obama just got an even bigger lead among women.
ABowers

Posted by: abowers1 | October 19, 2008 9:11 PM | Report abuse

thecannula, in my humble opinion, if capital gains were taxed at the same rate as ordinary income, you'd see more useful work and less damaging speculation.

Posted by: officermancuso | October 19, 2008 9:06 PM | Report abuse

It's an interesting question-

Is Obama doing well because the market is tanking OR is the market tanking because Obama is doing well?

-He wants to increase Capital gains taxes, so anyone who has invested some time in the past and plans to hold their investment will have to pay much more in taxes after a possible Obama victory than after a McCain victory....the better Obama's poll numbers, the more likely hard working Americans lose some of their investment income....

Posted by: thecannula | October 19, 2008 9:02 PM | Report abuse

anjela1 wrote, "Caribou Barbie is even stupider than I thought but in her defense, she does lack talent of any kind."

Yes, but she's pretty.

Posted by: officermancuso | October 19, 2008 8:35 PM | Report abuse

It's not as funny as SNL, but I have a very revealing video of Sarah Palin's welcoming address to the 2008 Alaskan Independence Party, from earlier this year.

For those not familiar with AIP, they want Alaska to secede from the Union. The man who founded the party was killed in a plastics explosives deal gone bad, and Palin's husband Todd was a long time member.

Help expose the hypocrisy, watch and share the video (it's fairly short). It is at the end of my piece titled:

"Sarah Palin & The Secessionists"
http://scootmandubious.blogspot.com/2008/10/sarah-palin-secessionists.html

Posted by: scootmandubious | October 19, 2008 8:14 PM | Report abuse

"If you work for a small business, its profits -should Obama be elected- will be taxed at near 60% once it breaks Obama's magic 250K, Because-

FOR THE FIRST TIME IN HISTORY OBAMA WANTS TO REMOVE THE SOCIAL SECURITY PAYROLL CAP CREATING A 15.65% ADDITIONAL TAX ABOVE THE 3% ADDED INCOME TAX at this level, since LLC's and Subchapter S small business profits pass through to the owner's personal 1040!"

Not even close to reality. Keep trying, though.

Posted by: bondjedi | October 19, 2008 8:11 PM | Report abuse

Caribou Barbie is even stupider than I thought but in her defense, she does lack talent of any kind. They totally clowned her right to her face and all she could do was smack her lips, smirk and say "You betcha!"

I didn't believe it was possible for her to look dumber and even more out of her element than she looked on Katie Couric, but she managed it, with the skilled help of the SNL cast and crew, who could barely contain their glee. If I hadn't come to despise her so much I would have felt sorry for her. She was the only one in the place not in on the joke.

There is no way on God's green earth that appearance helped her campaign or any future campaign that she will ever be a part of. She didn't even know they were making fun of her. Sarah Palin couldn't even get elected mayor of Wahoolla right now. At this point all she would be fit for is an anchor position on Fox News.

I guess she's fulfilled a lifelong dream, to be on SNL. It was like the trashy unpopular girl in jr high, thrilled because the cool kids are finally letting her sit with them one day at lunch, while they make fun of everything about her and her bff (creepy smile?! shooting a cute moose?).

I feel certain that Sarah Barracuda has at least a double digit IQ though. If she had an extra ounce of gray matter in her skull, she would have walked right off that set and kept what little she has left of her dignity.

Can we all get together and chip in for a one-way ticket back to Alaska for her? Now pls?

Posted by: anjela1 | October 19, 2008 8:11 PM | Report abuse

She baffled National Review's Kathryn Jean Lopez, although, as William F. Buckley might have said, one wonders how difficult that might be to accomplish.

Lopez found the performance "beneath her [Palin]", but later confessed that it was good for her to stand tall in the presence of her detractors.

As for me, I couldn't possibly have a lower opinion of Palin than I had before the appearance, and the needle hasn't moved.

Posted by: officermancuso | October 19, 2008 7:58 PM | Report abuse

It's a little odd that you refer to them as her "tormentors." Presumably, even someone like her knew she'd be a target for satire when her name was pulled out of McCain's hat. And so much of the stuff on SNL has been near-verbatim recreations of her own words, it barely qualifies as something to resent.

As for changing minds, that ship has sailed. People who agree with her, still like her. People who are horrified by her, surely remain so.

Posted by: Budikavlan | October 19, 2008 7:25 PM | Report abuse

Before Palin was governor, Alaskan residents paid no state taxes and each person was getting a check for $2000 per year. She imposed sales taxes on Wasilla to pay for a sports complex. Very popular! Then, as governor, she "took on big oil" so each Alaskan person now gets another $1200 per year. Why would that be popular? She is a maverick like Robin Hood! Wow! What a leader!
But wait a minute. This sounds like Cesar Chavez of Venezuela. If you have been listening to Bush, Chavez made himself into an enemy of the USA by the same actions against "big oil" in his country as Palin's actions against "big oil" of Alaska.
It seems like McCain got mixed up about Palin as a conservative. This is not a political stance; rather it looks like she is good at seeing an opportunity to be popular.

Posted by: JamesBullis | October 19, 2008 7:25 PM | Report abuse


Tine Fey on David Letterman said Palin had been contacting the show over and over for weeks trying to get on. Palin has her own PR firm representing her. I guess she sees big things for herself after this election. I have a feeling being VP is the least of what she wants now. She wants book deals, and a multi million dollar spot on Fox as a commentator. Who wants to be VP when she can be Paris Hilton. She wants to be a celebrity.


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Meh. As humor goes, it seemed pretty flat to me... it did show she had guts, but that's about it.

Posted by: Kili | October 19, 2008 7:16 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: popasmoke | October 19, 2008 7:22 PM | Report abuse

Meh. As humor goes, it seemed pretty flat to me... it did show she had guts, but that's about it.

Posted by: Kili | October 19, 2008 7:16 PM | Report abuse

Palin remains a nasty piece of work that only a neoncon or theocon could love.

Posted by: osullivanc1 | October 19, 2008 7:09 PM | Report abuse

If you work for a small business, its profits -should Obama be elected- will be taxed at near 60% once it breaks Obama's magic 250K, Because-

FOR THE FIRST TIME IN HISTORY OBAMA WANTS TO REMOVE THE SOCIAL SECURITY PAYROLL CAP CREATING A 15.65% ADDITIONAL TAX ABOVE THE 3% ADDED INCOME TAX at this level, since LLC's and Subchapter S small business profits pass through to the owner's personal 1040!

If you're the owner, you're going to be tempted to do more with less and lay someone off-

If you're an employee- you may, because of this new penalty on progress, be laid off.

John McCain wants to reduce business taxes and grow the economy, rather than squeeze the last drop of juice out of every successful business, large, medium, and small!
Exxon made billions, but why use a HATCHET to treat small and medium sized businesses the SAME WAY Sen.Obama?

"From each according to this ability, to each according to his need"
K.Marx 1875
B.Obama 2008

Posted by: thecannula | October 19, 2008 6:34 PM | Report abuse
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Thats not true. The current rate is 36% over $250K. It will go up to 39% for only that that is over $250K. The first $250K will still be the current 36%. That means if someone makes $270,000.00 they will pay 3% more on the amount over and above $250K net. So they will pay an added 3% of the $20,000. Thats an additional $600.00 for the year on a net income of $270,000.00. Are you telling me people will have to lay off workers or close their business over $50.00 a month? Mccain must think he is talking to people who are just plain stupid. Trust me, anyone making that kind of money knows what is what and knows Mccain is feeding them a line of sh&t. I wonder who does he thinks he is talking to? Mccain goes from one nutty set of lies to another. This week is his bullsh&t about taxes.

Posted by: popasmoke | October 19, 2008 7:05 PM | Report abuse

If you work for a small business, its profits -should Obama be elected- will be taxed at near 60% once it breaks Obama's magic 250K, Because-

FOR THE FIRST TIME IN HISTORY OBAMA WANTS TO REMOVE THE SOCIAL SECURITY PAYROLL CAP CREATING A 15.65% ADDITIONAL TAX ABOVE THE 3% ADDED INCOME TAX at this level, since LLC's and Subchapter S small business profits pass through to the owner's personal 1040!

If you're the owner, you're going to be tempted to do more with less and lay someone off-

If you're an employee- you may, because of this new penalty on progress, be laid off.

John McCain wants to reduce business taxes and grow the economy, rather than squeeze the last drop of juice out of every successful business, large, medium, and small!
Exxon made billions, but why use a HATCHET to treat small and medium sized businesses the SAME WAY Sen.Obama?

"From each according to this ability, to each according to his need"
K.Marx 1875
B.Obama 2008

Posted by: thecannula | October 19, 2008 6:34 PM | Report abuse

I felt bad for Gov. Palin. She seemed oblivious to the depth of "leftist" ideology of SNL. Perhaps I am underestimating her in being able to surround herself with normal Americans (what the right deems "liberals") and real liberals.

If SNL tried to humiliate Gov. Palin, she didn't show it very much or they restrained themselves. Consider the content in some of the other pieces; a more open-minded person in her shoes would have regretted being there. Her church most certainly have some congregants who are looking down their noses at her and wondering if she has lost her senses (to the conservative religionists, SNL is about equal to a brothel!). I think in earlier times SNL may have beat the dickens out of her.

As far as changing my mind - no change. Sen. McCain is not himself anymore (he was taken hostage by the far-right) and become a grumpy old politician. Further, his choice for a running mate - Gov. Palin - is indicative of someone who has become disconnected from reality. Very sad.

Posted by: jwtusjp | October 19, 2008 6:21 PM | Report abuse

OFF Subject.

How do I post to the trail. even though I am registered I can't post there.

Posted by: popasmoke | October 19, 2008 6:13 PM | Report abuse

HOW MANY JOKES GOT THE SPIKE?

Disappointing. Yes, the real Palin did not participate in any self-deprecation -- and thus showed that she's STILL not in on the joke.

I'll bet there's a backstory here. Tiny Fey assiduously avoided getting near Palin during the closing credits.

Did the writers come up with some much sharper questions for Tina Fey's Palin -- or the real Palin -- to field from the "faux" reporters, and were they shot down?

What enterprising reporter will be the first to publish the SNL Palin jokes that "they" didn't want you to hear?


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Posted by: scrivener50 | October 19, 2008 6:10 PM | Report abuse

I think it humanized her a bit. She has a divisive, culture-warrior persona, so just by showing up on set, smiling along with the gags, and looking basically relaxed, she demonstrated that she could be a good sport. We saw that she can treat people with differing views as something other than odious, America-loathing infidels.

Her ease when talking about anything besides politics, though, only makes it more jarring how uncomfortable and uninitiated she is when dealing with national and international affairs. Politics, ironically, is her weak spot. Compare last night's easy-to-watch vibe with the tooth-grinding tension of the Gibson interview. A politician should NOT be more comfortable with SNL than with a straight-ahead interview.

The takeaway, I think, is threefold: First, as of 2008, she's nowhere near ready for the VP slot under an old President. Second, IF she hits the books on policy while avoiding a second ethical blunder, she has the capacity to be a real force for 2012 or 2016, and her base will be there waiting. Third, an Obama win is not a Palin setback. She goes from being a sure Dan Quayle to a possible First Female President of the United States. That's a step up.

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Posted by: 37thandOSt | October 19, 2008 4:48 PM | Report abuse

Meh, I was hoping that Palin would at least have the redeeming characteristic of being funny. She didn't do anything funny. The other people were funny and the concept of making fun of Palin right in front of her was funny.

But she wasn't funny. I was hoping she would be.

Posted by: DDAWD | October 19, 2008 4:32 PM | Report abuse

I don't understand who she would change anyone's mind. Was an argument made? Did she show some sort of leadership or knowledge?

It just seems to me like a strange question prompt.

Going on SNL always seems like a good idea for a politician. They do a good job of making a funny skit, and everyone laughs, and usually it helps humanize the politician and makes them seem both kinda hip but mostly that they have a sense of humor.

Posted by: thescuspeaks | October 19, 2008 4:26 PM | Report abuse

Yes,Chris,my mind has been changed.I have opted to vote early for Obama instead of waiting until November 4.
Also,I have changed my mind about Tina Fey.I think she is 'way hotter' than Ms.Palin.

Posted by: klowry57 | October 19, 2008 4:23 PM | Report abuse

Chris, did you notice that Palin seemed to intimidate everyone around her?

It was very creepy to watch her walk by different people. They seemed to be frightened as if she was an erratic diva who might snap and start attacking the SNL Cast.

Posted by: jlafuente | October 19, 2008 3:52 PM | Report abuse
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That was the bit, they pretended like they didn't know she was there and were surprised.

Posted by: popasmoke | October 19, 2008 4:01 PM | Report abuse

SNL is a sketch comedy show. There is no need to micro-analyze everything.

I presume if there was a Obama Rap, there would be knee-jerk acusations of sterotyping a black man and racism.

The presidental skits on SNL were funny. Now get over it and let's discuss real issues affecting the USA.

Posted by: Digital_Voter | October 19, 2008 3:50 PM | Report abuse
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Not sure what you are talking about. Alax Baldwin called Palin a "Horrible woman" and In the rap song they even made fun of Mccains smile that is probably due to his cancer. SNL tore them apart. It was pointed comedy not just yuks. Palin accomplished nothing by going on there other then to look like a fool. She doesn't care anyway, she is already looking forward to her high paying gig on Fox news and book deals that are sure to come. The last thing she wants anymore is the headache of being VP, she now has other plans. As far as discussing serious subjects. That is not the gist of this blog entry. You should be reading a different blog this one is about SNL.

Posted by: popasmoke | October 19, 2008 4:00 PM | Report abuse

Chris, did you notice that Palin seemed to intimidate everyone around her?

It was very creepy to watch her walk by different people. They seemed to be frightened as if she was an erratic diva who might snap and start attacking the SNL Cast.

Posted by: jlafuente | October 19, 2008 3:52 PM | Report abuse

I know people would hate me for stating the obvious but if Palin's appearance changed anyone's mind, there wasn't much of a mind to speak of in the first place.

Posted by: ih82blog | October 19, 2008 3:50 PM | Report abuse

SNL is a sketch comedy show. There is no need to micro-analyze everything.

I presume if there was a Obama Rap, there would be knee-jerk acusations of sterotyping a black man and racism.

The presidental skits on SNL were funny. Now get over it and let's discuss real issues affecting the USA.

Posted by: Digital_Voter | October 19, 2008 3:50 PM | Report abuse

Interesting that McCain campaign manager Rick Davis, he of the "Bill Ayers is a legitimate campaign issue" crowd, is once again popping up in the breaking AP story by Pete Yost, now appearing in the WP in the last ten minutes. Now, let me get this straight, Davis recently said that he took $15,000 a month, dating back to 2005, from Freddie Mac for "doing nothing" and everyone laughed that THIS is what is wrong with Washington: selling access to a powerful Senator, in this case McCain, for doing essentially "nothing." But this story raises the question: was Davis really doing "nothing" for Freddie Mac? Davis has thus far demonstrated a lot of chutzpah in attacking others over Freddie Mac, but he seems to be the one with the most to hide. Will we find out the truth before the election? Or will Rep. Henry Waxman and Rep. John Conyers have to discover the truth after the election? Let's hope it's the former.

Posted by: osullivanc1 | October 19, 2008 3:39 PM | Report abuse

The funny part was, they brutalized Palin and Mccain. Is Palin so stupid she didn't realize they were not laughing with her but at her.

Posted by: popasmoke | October 19, 2008 3:15 PM | Report abuse

Sarah seem to have lost her voice during her SNL appearance. Time McCain campaign handlers, as always, chose to protect her from public scrutiny. Tina Fey and the other SNL performers did a good job overcoming their guest's limitations in setting a context for Palin's appearance by presenting her as a shallow person with a pleasing smile and musical rhythm.

Posted by: louismraskin | October 19, 2008 3:14 PM | Report abuse

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