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Palin for President (in 2012)

From the moment she finished her speech last Wednesday at the Republican National Convention, it was clear that Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin has a very bright future in national politics no matter the outcome of the 2008 presidential election.

And, days later -- voila! -- a new Web site appeared promoting Palin for president in 2012.

The site was formed by a man named Ron Holland, one of the organizers of "Freedom Fest" -- an annual gathering, which, according to its website, "invites the 'best and the brightest' from around the world to talk, strategize, socialize, and celebrate liberty."

Reached Monday, Holland said he grabbed the web address right after Palin finished speaking last week. "I plan to promote the possibility of a Palin candidacy for the next few years regardless of whether McCain wins or loses," Holland added. "She has real potential to change the direction of the GOP back to it's conservative and somewhat libertarian roots."

The Web site is part of the leading edge of what will almost certainly be a groundswell of energy behind Palin in the event the Republican ticket comes up short in 2008. (Even if McCain wins, as the oldest president ever to take office, it's conceivable he would choose to serve only one term, putting a Vice President Palin at the front of the line in 2012.)

Witness a blog post penned by Robert Halfon on the blog "CentreRight" on Sept. 4 . "This was not just a speech to reignite John McCain's campaign -- which it clearly did, this was a speech of a future Presidential Candidate," Halfon wrote. "President Palin in 2012."

While any number of candidates -- former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, Florida Gov. Charlie Crist, Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty -- are already being seriously mentioned, Palin has quickly eclipsed all of them when it comes to 2012 positioning.

She is seen as the bright new star in the Republican universe and it seems unlikely that her fresh-faced appeal will wear off completely -- especially among the GOP rank and file voters who tend to decide the identity of their party's nominee.

Throw in Palin's socially conservative credentials, her historic candidacy as the first female vice presidential nominee for Republicans and the experience she will gain from this bid and it's hard not to see her as the frontrunner four years from now if the GOP ticket misses the mark in this election.

Palin, of course, would prefer the more direct route to the presidency as part of the winning ticket this fall. Still, the buzz around her can't be ignored even if McCain doesn't get over the top in 57 days time.

By Chris Cillizza  |  September 8, 2008; 4:07 PM ET
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MBACapitalist...shame on you. Honestly. You obviously watch a lot of news since you banged out that list of anti-Palin talking points. But if you pay enough attention to see the negatives about her, you would have certainly seen the major news organizations debunking every single one of those points you made. Or does somebody have a case of selective attention?

Posted by: Buckeye | September 11, 2008 1:40 PM | Report abuse

Time to leave the Country

Posted by: Jack | September 11, 2008 2:34 AM | Report abuse

It's astonishing how many of you liberals show abhorrence to this great country - LEAVE! I worked hard all my life and my family reaped the rewards of my hard work. Get off your computer, make some money, and then you will understand what we Republicans are trying to get across to your thick uneducated minds. If you want to live in a Socialist state - go to CHINA!!!! One day all of you haters will be seen for what you really are - perhaps when a family member is mugged, raped, of murdered. You will then want action - and then you will find out the justice we have been trying to get across to YOU people. A liberal is a republican until he gets robbed.

Posted by: Cee Bee | September 11, 2008 1:36 AM | Report abuse

MBAcapitalist - YOU ARE WRONG ON ALL COUNTS! You plagiarized a fictitious assault that has been discredited. http://www.factcheck.org took all those stories that cretins as yourself have been spewing in order to get your dictator elected. But you are the average Obama base - ignorant without the ability to use critical and analytical thought. But I guess that is the result of a third grade education. The MBA in your name must have been mail order.
Continue with your hate – it’ll make the vote count a lot easier when McCain/Palin are victors in November.

Posted by: MidEastVet | September 11, 2008 1:26 AM | Report abuse

So, let me get this straight....Bush is to blame for our economy's downfall, the war, teen pregnancy, increase of crime, and... WOW! The power you give to one man is beyond belief. Somebody better tell the congress, supreme court, local government, and the cabinet that they apparently aren't needed!

Come on America, let's stop pointing fingers and taking some accountability for the direction we (yes, us the voters) lead our elected officials.

Americans (oh, and that minor entity called the congress) urged (congress voted)to go to war after 9/11. Do you remember that?

Americans please remember that we as a country are split on the topics such as abortion, death penalty, religion, etc... the President should represent diversity of thought on these topics. He should represent the majority voice but stay true to our constitution. I would like to remind Americans that if we want to keep things "private" and "out of the government's hands", then we shouldn't be paying for these services using the government's money (meaning as Americans we should be fighting for the right for women to have abortions and also fighting against tax dollars to pay for them....after all, wouldn't that clear the hands of those Americans opposed to abortion? If they weren't paying for them they truly wouldn't be a government issue?).

oh...and the economy....give me a break America have you not realized yet all the factors that impact it (trade sanctions, employment, etc...)?

It appears to me that we have become a country that loves to spread rumors and bash anyone who attempts to make this country better. But the reality is that no matter how honorable and good the candidate is, the other party will attempt to discredit and tarnish their reputation by spreading lies and digging in their past attempting to find misconduct.

I teach my three young boys to be respectful and mindful when they speak about our President, our congress, our supreme court, and our public servants. When they hear others not doing so and question it, I remind them to be accountable, to try and see the bigger picture, not to be a whiner or bad sport and to remember that we are not victims in this great country - we each have a voice. Of course, on my sarcastic days, I remind them that the same people who bash Bush today will be bashing Obama once elected or complaining about the next judgment out of the Supreme Court....because unhappy people love to share their unhappiness.

Posted by: Stacy Rea | September 10, 2008 2:24 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: 37th&OStreet | September 9, 2008 8:10 PM | Report abuse

TALK ABOUT BEING OFF MESSAGE


OBAMA WAS SUPPOSED TO BE TALKING ABOUT BRINGING AMERICA TO THE "NEW POLITICS." OBAMA WAS SUPPOSED TO BE "THE ONE" TO SHOW AMERICA THE WAY.


Running scared and worried, message thrown aside, Obama is making mistakes


Quotes from Politico today below:


IT IS ABSOLUTELY UNBELIEVABLE HOW THROWN-OFF THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN IS RIGHT NOW - COMPLETELY OFF MESSAGE AND REELING - IS THIS HOW OBAMA WOULD RESPOND IN A NATIONAL SECURITY CRISIS ???

http://www.myspace.com/37thandostreet

QUOTES FROM POLITICO ENCLOSED BELOW:


"Barack Obama and his Democratic allies are intensifying their attacks on Sarah Palin, as her sustained and surprising central role in this race is upending Obama’s strategy and often overshadowing McCain.

Democratic Congressman Russ Carnahan on Tuesday – introducing Joe Biden at a campaign event – ripped into Palin’s record and punctuated it with this snarky jab. “There’s no way you can dress up that record, even with a lot of lipstick,” he said. Obama himself used similar langauge later in the day about the McCain-Palin reform rhetoric, saying "You can put lipstick on a pig," he said. "It's still a pig."

Former New York Mayor Ed Koch, as part of his endorsement of Obama, said Palin “scares the hell out of me.” And Obama hit Palin in nearly a dozen different press releases – one day after drawing laughs at a campaign stop by calling her a “moose shooter.”

It isn’t just Democratic officials who are fixated on Palin. Media outlets on the left – from Talking Points Memo to Huffington Post – are loaded with hard-hitting stories about Palin. McCain often seems like he’s playing second fiddle."

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Posted by: 37th&OStreet | September 9, 2008 7:19 PM | Report abuse

Old or not, and as chillingly scary as a Palin presidency would be, I can't imagine McCain retiring after one term. The egotism and power (and attraction to it) are far too great. We haven't had a one-term president retire since Calvin Coolidge in 1928 (if you discount the 18 months he served of Warren Harding's term). That was before the TV era, let alone the internet, and before FDR and following presidents made the office so powerful. Unless there's a major, debilitating health issue, I'd expect McCain to run for reeletion. What would be more likely is that after 12 years of Republican presidents, people would tire of that and defeat him in 2012. No party has won four presidential elections in a row since 1932-48, and even that was unique and extraordinary.

Posted by: Jon Morgan | September 9, 2008 6:59 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin:

1)Raised taxes as the Gov. of Alaska.
2)Wants to teach creationism in Science Class, subverting the US Constitution.
3)Tried to get books banned at the local library. - kind of like Hitler
4)Fired her entire staff 10 days into term as mayor, for lack of loyalty.
5)Used every available lever to get an enemy fired from his job, and is still lying about it.
6)Put a gag order on her administration as mayor of a town of 6500.
7)Milked the Federal Government for huge series of earmarks, by using lobbyists. The highest per capita earmarker in the nation: Palin (27 Million for a town of 6500).
8)Doesn’t believe in global warming.
9)Used Alaska First as her campaign slogan, which is the same one as her husband’s old party, the AIP, a secessionist organization she recorded a supportive piece for this year!
10)Misled America about the Bridge to Nowhere, in her first national speech (she supported it and only killed it after the funding was cut).
11)Wants to ban stem cell research. - doesn't beleive in science!
12)Is on the record stating the Iraq war ”is a task from God.” - yes, we love wasting $10B and the scores of US soldiors on this. Support our troops, not the war!
13)In July when interviewed about the possibility of being the VP she stated that she did not know what the VP did.
14)Left her town Mayoralty with a huge debt, having outspent all around in her (21 MILION in debt). - some fiscal responsibility
15)And, perhaps worst of all, Palin would insist that my 14 daughter carry and birth a rapist’s child.

Posted by: MBAcapitalist | September 9, 2008 4:49 PM | Report abuse

I think Ron Holland is dead wrong. Sarah Palin is no libertarian, Republican or otherwise. I am a Republican with the deepest respect for the more libertarian traditions of the GOP. She's right out of the fundamentalist and Neocon factions, complete with simplistic, bumper-sticker philosophy, contempt for science. She would be as willing and malleable tool for the AIPAC and PNAC crew as Bush has been. Those people, and the consequences of their policies, are the reason I am voting for Obama this year, despite my profound disagreement with some of HIS policy positions.

Posted by: Iconoblaster | September 9, 2008 4:44 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin for President in 2012 ... of Alaska!

Posted by: dee | September 9, 2008 4:03 PM | Report abuse

Is John McCain still running for President? It's hard to tell because he's been totally usurped by his new, flavor of the month, VP pick. Looks like the GOP is now in favor of vacuous celebrities after they were against them.

Posted by: view from the couch | September 9, 2008 4:02 PM | Report abuse

ASinMoCo wrote:

"Well, we did put Bush in office twice, so I have no doubt the American electorate has the capacity to put a walking nightmare like Palin in office. That said, if it happens, I'll be applying for political asylum in, say, France (the Republicans love that one)."

Liberals keep promising this. After 2000 and then again in 2004, I heard scores of people vow to move to Canada or France. Seems that hardly any have. What gives?

Posted by: buzzardist | September 9, 2008 3:16 PM | Report abuse

The NObama supporters are confused, mad and foaming at the mouth at the sight of Sara Palin, the reformist chosen by the Maverick!

The grave mistake Barack made choosing an old Washington politician Joe Biden over the popular Hillary Clinton has sentenced his campaign to defeat in the November elections.

Sarah Palin has reinvigorated and added excitement to the Republican ticket and it has also given hope for our country to all the 18 million Hillary supporters who were rejected and ignored by NObama.

Former Hillary supporters are now considering putting our country first and vote for the McCain/Palin ticket as a way to recognize women as equal partners in governance.

COUNTRY FIRST!
Democrats for MCCAIN/PALIN!

Posted by: Manolete | September 9, 2008 3:11 PM | Report abuse

When is everyone going to wake up? Palin lied when she said that she was against the Bridge To No Where. She supported the Bridge to No Where running for Governor and only reject funding for the bridge until AFTER Congress nixed the project. Congress still gave Alaska the funds allocated for the bridge and Palin took it. So much for being rejecting earmarks and being honest.

McCain and his cronies have valiantly tried to cover up "Troopergate" - another thorn in the side of Palin. McCain/Palin want to move the investigation of Troopergate to a personnel committee whose members were apppointed by Palin. And she touts herself as ethical? Do we let the fox guard the henhouse in such matters?

Wake up America - Palin is just another slimy politician who wants to bask in the adulation of the unwitting public and climb up the political ladder as fast as she can.

Posted by: Torin | September 9, 2008 2:57 PM | Report abuse

Tick, tock, tick, tock......TWELVE DAYS and counting without a SINGLE UNSCRIPTED WORD FROM SARAH!!! Tick, tock, tick, tock..... And does ANYONE think good ole softy Charlie Gibson is going to ask any TOUGH questions? Or that PART OF THEIR DEAL was that Sarah could not be asked any questions without being told AHEAD of time what the questions would be?? WHEN WILL PALIN PUT HERSELF BEFORE A LIVE PRESS CONFERENCE BEFORE MULTIPLE REPORTERS LIKE QUAYLE and FERRARO DID WITHIN TWO DAYS of their selection??? Tick, tock, tick, tock.... TWELVE DAYS and counting....


Posted by: Debra | September 9, 2008 2:56 PM | Report abuse

Reply to Natasha re Bridge.

You are wrong. Palin presents it as though she selflessly, at great political risk, killed the Bridge project in order to save the American taxpayers money. In fact, when she took office the project was already widely ridiculed and Congress had canceled the earmark. But Alaska kept the money and used it for other transportation projects, apparently including the Road to Nowhere. Palin is only against earkmarks when they aren’t for her, and her suggestions to the contrary are lies.

Posted by: Adam | September 9, 2008 2:51 PM | Report abuse

"To Sean, the snarky little Dem Troll:

-Banning books in libraries...She didn't.

-The $400 million dollar bridge to nowhere. ...Another lie. She was against it from the start...Posted by: Anonymous"

I can't even call this "nice" spin, because it's ridiculous--beyond spin. You call Sean a troll, then you reverse the truth on these (and many other issues), while remaining "anonymous." Pretty slick. I wouldn't sign my name while trolling with lies either.

Posted by: BobH | September 9, 2008 2:46 PM | Report abuse

"Palin as president's first act would be to burn the Constitution."

Too late-Bush already did.

Posted by: BobH | September 9, 2008 2:35 PM | Report abuse

"Sarah Palin is not ready to be President, but she's an outstanding candidate for Vice President...At least Bush's screw-ups are fixable, whereas Obama has plans that would degrade the very freedom we enjoy as Americans."...posted by Jared

Unbelievable spin, Jared. How can you argue that she is an "outstanding candidate for V-Pres" and yet not be "ready to be President," especially when the top of the ticket is a 72-year old 3-time melanoma survivor? And are you serious in comparing Obama UNFAVORABLY with Bush in terms of degrading "the very freedom we enjoy as Americans?" If you really believe that, after the Constitution has been subverted repeatedly under the modus operandi that the end justifies the means, then God help us. Even a generally sympathetic Supreme Court has overturned some of Bush's more extreme actions.


Posted by: BobH | September 9, 2008 2:33 PM | Report abuse


How can she be ready to lead if she's not ready to answer questions?

"Why would we want to throw Sarah Palin into a cycle of piranhas called the news media?" -Rick Davis, McCain campaign manager

Shouldn't a barracuda be able to handle a few piranhas?

Posted by: Truth teller | September 9, 2008 2:15 PM | Report abuse

CC, this whole article is out of line & ridiculous. This is purely based on speculation. The GOP has wonderful candidates across the US & good candidates who ran for President in 08. I voted for Romney in the primary. Now, though, I will be supporting McCain in the general. This election is McCain/Palin vs. Obama/Biden. This is the race we should focus on, not 2012. Little doubt that someone on this blog will be dead by 2012 & no telling what changes will be had by then. A crazy article.

Posted by: reason | September 9, 2008 2:03 PM | Report abuse

Just the headline and the mere thought of it is enough to make me vomit.

Posted by: bobsommers | September 9, 2008 2:00 PM | Report abuse

Palin as president's first act would be to burn the Constitution.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2008 1:53 PM | Report abuse

Hey 37th and O, check out these Palin pix...

http://www.hugeandsexy.com/

Posted by: Leichtman | September 9, 2008 1:19 PM | Report abuse

I cannot decide, when alone in my bed at night, whether it is more titillating to imagine bending Vice President Palin over her desk in the Oval Office... or to imagine an Adonis-like McCain watching, his withered left hand clutching a leash to which is attached a panting, barely clothed Mitt Romney on his hands and knees. OOH! I think I, uh, have to use the restroom.

Posted by: 37th & O Street | September 9, 2008 1:07 PM | Report abuse

"Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin has billed taxpayers for 312 nights spent in her own home during her first 19 months in office, charging a "per diem" allowance intended to cover meals and incidental expenses while traveling on state business."

"....She wrote some form of "Lodging -- own residence" or "Lodging -- Wasilla residence" more than 30 times at the same time she took a per diem, according to the reports. In two dozen undated amendments to the reports, the governor deleted the reference to staying in her home but still charged the per diem."
SOURCE: Washpost

Lets see, She gets a free house in Juneau, and takes money from tax payers by chargeing per diem to stay in her own home in Wasilla. But leaves a town of about 5,400 $20 million dollars in debt when she was mayor, hmmm. What a hustle. No wonder half of Alaska is under investigation for corruption. What a hustle. What a bright future. She'll fit right in.

Posted by: A RISINING .......? | September 9, 2008 1:01 PM | Report abuse

Should (God forbid) McCain/Palin be elected, Sarah will probably be President by default when McCain dies. He is not a well man--physically and mentally. Do we want some clueless former Ms. Congeniality dealing with foreign powers while churning out more kids? Not in my world.

Posted by: Vampirella | September 9, 2008 12:04 PM | Report abuse

What's the difference between Gov. Sara Palin and George Bush? Lipstick!!

Posted by: Hoosier State | September 9, 2008 12:02 PM | Report abuse

If the Freedom Fest site invites the best and brightest from around the world, what a shame that Palin won't be allowed to participate. Five colleges in six years? The lightest of lightweights.

Posted by: trustynailz | September 9, 2008 11:30 AM | Report abuse

President of what? The Mickey Moose club? Stop wasting time and insulting our collective intelligence with this roadkill-star to nowhere.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2008 11:21 AM | Report abuse

Do we really a right wing religious whacko that rolls around on the floor and hollers jibberish (Speaking in Tounges), who believes that the End of Days is upon us, who goes to a church where people routinely claim to be invaded by the Holy Ghost and proclaim that screaming jibberish like a two year old is some kind of spiritual movement?

Posted by: No McBush/McFailin | September 9, 2008 10:23 AM | Report abuse

Well, we did put Bush in office twice, so I have no doubt the American electorate has the capacity to put a walking nightmare like Palin in office. That said, if it happens, I'll be applying for political asylum in, say, France (the Republicans love that one).

Posted by: ASinMoCo | September 9, 2008 10:18 AM | Report abuse

Why didn't Obama just pick Hillary? If he did this would already be over.

I have supported Obama, but I think he let his ego get in the way, and now, it looks like we have blown another election to the Republicans.

I cannot believe it. I am stunnded that McCain is ahead.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2008 9:45 AM | Report abuse

Boy did Obama ever sound SCHRILL these days!

Posted by: Dano | September 9, 2008 9:43 AM | Report abuse

Uhh...don't count on it! Hillary is coming back in '12 if Obama loses...and I can guaranty that she will BEAT THE TAR out of Palin (figuratively of course)!!! Don't mess w/ Hill!

Palin is a kindergardener compared to Hillary Clinton! Hill would eat her alive and spit her back out like a wad of old chewing gum.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2008 9:36 AM | Report abuse


We are very concerned that the Palin interveiw will be on Schmit's turf where he can control the Alaskan scenery! This is serious. Charlie Gibson's questions might get lost in the 2 day beautiful scenery? A serious interview is at George Stephanopoulos's Table where all the other candidates have done interveiws for Years. Its now 57 days to November 4th and just One Palin interview? Yet the media already has Palin running for 2012.

Posted by: Liz | September 9, 2008 9:10 AM | Report abuse

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Obama's people are desperate to cut apart Palin - it is unbelievable. Forget about Obama's campaign theme of the "new politics" and how different Obama is. Obama is a FRAUD TO HIS OWN CAMPAIGN THEME - JUST READ HIS BLOGGERS.

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Posted by: 327th&OStreet | September 9, 2008 7:41 AM | Report abuse

I realize that we live in a world where everything is sped up--we have instant analysis and "historians" who look all the way back in time 6 months to write the scholarly narratives that are supposed to keep civilization from repeating itself, but Sarah Palin has been on display for little more than a week and we are ALREADY talking about her prospects in 2012?!. I don't know whose desperation such sudden celebrity suggests. . . the Party for making even more extravagant claims than one would have thought them capable, or the people who long for something new. There must be one or two Republicans scratching their heads and saying, HUH?

Posted by: dch | September 9, 2008 7:25 AM | Report abuse

Right now Palin is a media event. She scares the Obama camp because she is getting more attention then their anointed one. Once the debates start the focus will start to shift to the gaffs made in the debates. It's show biz folks!

Posted by: Capt. Howard | September 9, 2008 5:47 AM | Report abuse

Obama's people are desperate to cut apart Palin - it is unbelievable. Forget about Obama's campaign theme of the "new politics" and how different Obama is. Obama is a FRAUD TO HIS OWN CAMPAIGN THEME - JUST READ HIS BLOGGERS.


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Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2008 3:59 AM | Report abuse

Palin's so called record is a house of cards. As soon as people realize how out there she is on social issues, and how she has changed her mind when politically convenient on key issues they will realize that this is not the One they were looking for.

Personally I'd prefer a world where the President was smarter than me, for 8 years that has not happened. Elect McCain and it certainly won't happen for another 4 years. If Palin ever gets her grubby little hands on the keys to the White House it definitely won't be the case. She is a lightweight. Intellectually she is in little league, compared to Obama's heavyweight.

Posted by: Mike | September 9, 2008 3:39 AM | Report abuse

Oh whoop, Chris. You really buy that tripe, do you? (Or is someone holding a gun to your head?!?)

Sarah Palin is a classic nine-day wonder.

Once the internet has the chance to do what John McCain and the traditional media DIDN'T do (i.e., actually vet her), the earthy gov'll be dashing them sled doggies back up to Alaska and we'll never hear from her again.

I know that things are hard on you guys at WaPo and you're being pressured to tow the corporate line but really! I often disagreed with your assessments during the primaries but at least they were actually THINKING assessments. Where did YOU go?!?

I just wish you put your country first and tell the truth. It's just crucially important right now. (And then I could respect you once again - which is something that I'd really LIKE to do.)

Posted by: Carmen Cameron | September 9, 2008 3:17 AM | Report abuse

I surely have a lot more respect for Sarah Palin who has the courage of her convictions and is willing to go down with the ship than I do for Chris Cillizza's getting all moist between his legs and jumping up and down like a schoolgirl at the sight of Justin Timberlake.

For shame. He knows better. He should tell the truth.

Posted by: DexterManley | September 9, 2008 3:02 AM | Report abuse

Whoa ....to all that are concerned please watch this ad from the Obama Campaign that finally uses the word that all the press, when it comes down to John MCCain, refuse to use. LIAR!!!!

Not only about that fact ,but they reveal the 26 year old add-on myth, created by ....maverick...

Rick Davis ,the chairman of the John McCains Campaign was asked is the presidential race going to be about the issues, the economy healthcare, unemployment, the outsourcing of American Jobs, tax cuts for the middle class, the endless occupation in Iraq,THE PROBLEM OF HOMELESSNESS, the threatened and even, sung about invasion of Iran.

What was the former washington lobbyist Rick Davis's answer, "No, this campaign is not about the issues...."

THESE REPUBLICANS HAVE WILLIFULY ENGAGED OUR AMERICAN INTELLIGENCE WITH LIES, FEARS, AND SMEARS.

John McCains Campaign manager has admitted this. He said, "No, this campaign is not about the issues."

If it's not about the issues of importance to our Nation what is it about ,TRIVIALITIES" ? Trivialities like, Is Barack Obamas birth certificate real?or "Barack Obama and his wife are uppity ------", Is Barack Obama a celebrity?, Is Barack Obama patriotic enough, etc.etc.etc. FOOLISHNESS.

These question that these liars have invented are steeped in FEAR-BASED RACISM, nothing more. Even the Blind can smell a PIG who's been rolling around with other pigs (George w.Bush, Karl Rove, Richard Cheney, and the RNC/GOP)....In the mud where pigs roll around is only, DIRT, FILTH, and DUNG. The SMELL, the FILTH, and the DUNG, clings to the pigs even after washing it off. It Becomes their very being.

Governor Sarah Palin is known in Alaska as a POLITICAL pig, it follows her into this campaign with TWO INDICTMENTS OF INETHICAL BEHAVIOUR. Using the Governor seat to fire a commissioner who would not fire her brother-in-law who was in a nasty divorce With Sarah Palins Sister. Emotions interfered with her judgement.

What would happen to our nation if John McBush 3rd term is elected and suddenly becomes incompasitated. Would the judgement of A governor who used her gubernatorial power to try and win a grudge match with someone she had a problem with be enough to stand under the pressure of LOBBYIST, who by the way she is deeply tied into, or God Forbid a chatastrophe that called on judgement, not EMOTIONS, THAT COULD SEND OUR NATION INTO A THIRD WOLRD WAR.... COULD THIS PERSON BE TRUSTED NOT TO PUSH THE RED EASY BUT ENGAGE IN POWERFUL DIPLOMACY OF WHICH SHE HAS 0 EXPEIENCE. ThaT'S A VERY FAIR QUESTION.

Funny how the press desires to LAUD HERE AND IGNORE she is under legilative investigation two legislative indictments ofr which if she is found guilty she face impeechment and a a possible jail sentence. The CORPORATE PRESS WANT TO BURY THIS FACT.


Yet, she thinks she can paint over it with red and be what she is not . RIGHT nor READY.

Can you guys see how silli this has gotten. Rick Davis and John McCain willfully have chosen to make Barack Obama and Michelle Obama and more than likelly thier race THE ISSUE....Think About THAT........Why are they an issue?

In the very center of being where I breathe, feel, think, live, I can come up with only one conclusion........Senator Obama an Michelle Obama are the fulfillment of the American dream in their personal Lives. They are also the fullment of Martin Luther Kings most greatest and prohetic speech, "I HAVE A DREAM" They are married have a family, successful, capable an intelligent. BARACKS JUDGEMENT HAS BEEN PROVEN AGAIN AND AGAIN DURING THIS ELECTION SEASON. They are RIGHT and READY TO lead.

The RNC is only worried about their parties survival. They choose to use any means they can to defeat a RIGHT cause, the CHANGE AND GROWTH of our American lives McCain Now calls Himself and Palin agents of change.

It is written, "The devil himself is known to appear in the covering of an ANGEL OF LIGHT."

This is one of those examples.

If you've been inactive in our American POLITICS NOWS THE TIME TO GET INVOLVED.Tom Hartman has said, "ACTIVISM BEGINS WITH YOU, TAG YOU'RE IT.

Please, stand with us in exposing RICK DAVIS, JOHN MCCAIN, GOVERNOR SARAH PALIN AND THE RNC/GOP, for what they truly are...LIARS and the TRUTHI IS NOT in tHEM..

FROM THE HUFFINGTON POST


Sarah Palin: A Trojan Moose Concealing Four More Years of George Bush
Did Sarah Palin wrongfully push to have her ex-brother-in law fired? Was she really against the "Bridge to Nowhere?" Did she really sell Alaska's plane on eBay, or just list it on eBay? Did she actually have any substantial duties commanding the Alaska National Guard?

The correct answer to all these questions is: who cares? Which isn't to say these aren't valid questions, or that Palin and the McCain camp aren't playing it fast, loose, and coy with each of them. The point is that Palin, and the circus she's brought to town, are simply a bountiful collection of small lies deliberately designed to distract the country from one big truth: the havoc that George Bush and the Republican Party have wrought, and that John McCain is committed to continuing.

Every second of this campaign not spent talking about the Republican Party's record, and John McCain's role in that record, is a victory for John McCain.

Her critics like to say that Palin hasn't accomplished anything. I disagree: in the space of ten days she's succeeded in distracting the entire country from the horrific Bush record -- and McCain's complicity in it. My friends, that's accomplishment we can believe in.

Just look at the problem John McCain faced. George Bush has a disastrous record, and the country knows it. John McCain -- the current one, not the one who vanished eight years ago -- has no major disagreements with George Bush (and I'm sorry, wanting to fire Donald Rumsfeld a bit sooner doesn't qualify) and wants to continue his incredibly unpopular policies for another four years. The solution? Enter Sarah Palin, a Trojan Moose carrying four more years of disaster.

And the plan has worked beautifully. Just look at what's being discussed just 57 days before the election. Is it the highest unemployment rate in five years? The bailout of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac? The suicide bombing yesterday in Iraq that killed six people and wounded 54 -- in the same market where last month a bomb killed 28 people and wounded 72? That the political reconciliation that was supposedly the point of "the surge" is nowhere near happening? That Iraq's Shiite government is now rounding up the American-backed Sunni leaders of the Awakening? That the reason 8,000 soldiers may be leaving Iraq soon is so more can be deployed to Afghanistan where the Taliban is steadily retaking the country?

No. We're talking about whether Sarah Palin was or was not a good mayor, whether she was or was not a good mother, whether her skirts are too short and her zingers too sarcastic.

Contrary to what we're hearing 24/7 in the media, the next few weeks are not a test of Sarah Palin. The next few weeks are a test of Barack Obama.

He needs to dramatically redirect this election back to a discussion over the issues that really matter -- the issues that will impact the future of this country. A presidential campaign is a battle and this is the time for Obama to show some commander-in-chief skills. I'm not talking about calling Palin out for lying about his record and demeaning community organizing. I'm talking about grabbing the political debate by the throat. The country is already angry about what's happened over the last seven-plus years -- he shouldn't be afraid to give voice to that anger. Obama has spent years adopting a non-threatening persona; but he can't let his fear that appearing like an "angry Black man" (a stereotype not-too-subtly fueled by Fox News) will turn off swing voters keep him from channeling the disgust and outrage felt by so many voters --swing and otherwise.

McCain's team, in an effort to distract, is going to keep doing what they're doing -- diverting voters and the media with a tantalizing combination of personal trivia and small lies. It doesn't matter if they're caught in them -- in fact, all the better. Because they know there is no way in hell they can win if this election is about the big truth of the Bush years.

McCain's real running mate is George Bush and the failed policies of the Republican Party. Even if they are dressed up in a skirt, lipstick, and Tina Fey glasses.

Sarah Palin
John McCain
Barack Obama
Did Sarah Palin wrongfully push to have her ex-brother-in law fired? Was she really against the "Bridge to Nowhere?" Did she really sell Alaska's plane on eBay, or just list it on eBay? Did she actual...
Did Sarah Palin wrongfully push to have her ex-brother-in law fired? Was she really against the "Bridge to Nowhere?" Did she really sell Alaska's plane on eBay, or just list it on eBay? Did she actual...

AMERICA.....WAKE-UP DON'T YOU KNOW YOU'RE BEING DECIEVED LIKE AN OX BEING LEAD TO THE SLAUGHTER......


Posted by: need4trth | September 9, 2008 2:33 AM | Report abuse

Palin's scandals have touched on various parallels that Bush's did, including the abuse of power (Bush: Unitary Executive, US Attorney firings etc.; Palin: Troopergate, Loyalty firings), record of fiscal incompetence, the flair for the casual lie, the crazy Christianist angle, the disregard for facts and expertise, etc. But however terrible Bush was, there's no allegation that he's out there lining his own pockets. So here's a scary thought: is Palin a poor man's Dubya? Not only an incompetent, fact-avoiding extremist, but personally corrupt as well?

Posted by: America, if you vote for McCain you deserve what you get. More BUSH and CHENEY thuggery | September 9, 2008 2:18 AM | Report abuse

Why in the heck do you think she said yes to McSame? Look at her. She can't stand him.

Posted by: James Jr. | September 9, 2008 2:16 AM | Report abuse

John McSame picked an ethics challenged creationist cheerleader (Palin) as his running-mate and now Palin won't talk to the press (and we all know why) yet she gets up and makes some dumbass speech everyday where she's calling out Democrats, Obama, Biden etc....and the freaking corporate media runs with it?!?!

Where the hell does she get off calling out ANYONE when she's to damn afraid of having to go off script (Charlie Gibson?...pleeeease) and answer some questions from the media? And there are a LOT of questions she needs to answer to...

I know in these tough economic times it's sometimes hard to remember how many houses you own but C'mon Corporate Media, Do Your Damn Job For Once!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxT0s_I5WtA

Posted by: ace mcfunkenstein | September 9, 2008 1:55 AM | Report abuse

As a South American, I really think Sarah Palin should be not only the nominee in 2008, but elected PRESIDENT in 2008.

For too many years we've worried ourselves sick and at times ruined our countries with civil wars over wondering whether the USA was enemy or friend.

At least with a President Sarah Palin, we can go forward, left, right and center united, in the knowledge that the USA is our common ENEMY and the ENEMY of every capitalist peace-loving democracy on the planet.

Posted by: DexterManley | September 9, 2008 1:52 AM | Report abuse

What is amazing to me about this is that Palin never said anything insightful, she was just snarky. A trait too many Republicans seem willing to trade for coherent thought.

Posted by: jim11 | September 9, 2008 1:43 AM | Report abuse

For those voting on issues, you have my gratitude, regardless of your political affiliation. For those planning to vote the "just like me" method, think about staying home and studying the issues facing the nation as a whole. That's "country first".

Posted by: Anna | September 9, 2008 1:25 AM | Report abuse

http://www.frontiersman.com/articles/2000/05/23/news.txt

HOLY COW. Read this:
'While the Alaska State Troopers and most municipal police agencies have covered the cost of exams, which cost between $300 to $1,200 apiece, the Wasilla police department does charge the victims of sexual assault for the tests.'

Article was written May 23, 2000. Palin had already been the mayor for four years and would be mayor for two more.

Yes - it means that victims were charged for the rape-kits.

PALIN FOR PRESIDENT 2012!! You go girl

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2008 1:13 AM | Report abuse

37th&OStreet and others,

You keep repeating the lies that Obama and his staffers are saying things.

You have no proof.

What is more likely is that you are McCain staffers and YOU are lying.

That's all McCain knows how to do.

Posted by: MNobserver | September 9, 2008 1:09 AM | Report abuse

A new study shows Global Warming to be a definite a hoax. Sarah Palin was just up there melting all the snow. Anyway, here’s an Excerpt from a real interview with tennis star, Billie Jean King: "I think Palin's great. I think she's awesome. I think she's honest, I think she's real," said Ms. King ... But would the Governor of Alaska have been so quick to release public statements about her family if her daughter Bristol was revealed to be gay, instead of pregnant? "That was one question I had in my mind," added Ms. King. Would the Governor of Alaska have been so quick to release public statements about her family if her daughter Bristol was revealed to be walking with a peg leg, a parrot on her shoulder, and making disparaging remarks about the British Navy, instead of pregnant? Well, blow me down; must be the new girl in school. Here’s a clip from Jan & Dean: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eX7X4FovYRA&NR=1 And, how ‘bout them Dems: http://theseedsof9-11.com

Posted by: Peggy McGilligan | September 9, 2008 1:01 AM | Report abuse

As Palin didn't actually say anything but read a speech written for some old white guy, hence the stupid remarks about biographies, why would anyone want her?

Have Americans not had enough of the McCain/Bush mantra of more and more war?

McCain himself has never actually done anything for anyone but himself as far as anyone can see for sure except pretend he is a war hero.

Make no mistake - McCain was murdering innocent civilians from the great height of a bomber jet and didn't give a hoot who he was killing.

The hated VC kept him alive.

And 3 million Vietnamese civilians and 58,000+ US soldiers ended up dead in an illegal invasion.

Gawd, put it back in your britches boys.

Posted by: Marilyn | September 9, 2008 12:54 AM | Report abuse

it seems that the paid bloggers at mccain's campaign who spread lies and propaganda on every major news site and who are immediately recognizable by their ad hominem attacks and rampant misspellings are now attacking with that characteristic false outrage and various strategies of distraction the paid bloggers of the obama campaign. this is a typical rovian subterfuge : anyone who disagrees with the mccain position(s) is immediately labelled as "obviously" an unpatriotic terrorist-sympathizing arugula-eating intellectually elite "blogger for obama." sound familiar ?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2008 12:53 AM | Report abuse

This Dem is voting for McCain/Palin. But if Hillary and Palin both run in 2012, this Dem will go back to the party and vote for Hillary.

Posted by: Palin '08 but Hillary '12 | September 9, 2008 12:34 AM | Report abuse

Anybody can be VP, Look at Palin. All you have to do is get a Presidential candidate to vote for you and then they'll write your speeches, and tell you what to say, when to say it, and how to say it. You don't have to even to interviews or have a press conference. The campaign like Mccains' can even set you up with easy interviews that make you look like you know what your talking about when you really don't. Now isn't that an easy way to be just a heart beat away from the presidency? Ask Palin, its her new role.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2008 12:23 AM | Report abuse

Anybody can be VP, Look at Palin. All you have to do is get a Presidential candidate to pick you as their running mate. Forget about experience or even knowing anything at all. They'll write your speeches, and tell you what to say, when to say it, and how to say it. You don't have to do interviews or have a press conference. A campaign like Mccains' can even set you up with easy interviews that make you look like you know what your talking about when you really don't. Now isn't that an easy way to be just a heart beat away from the presidency? Ask Palin, its her new role.

Posted by: Susan | September 9, 2008 12:22 AM | Report abuse

Anybody can be VP, Look at Palin. All you have to do is get a Presidential candidate to pick you as their running mate. Forget about experience or even knowing anything at all. They'll write your speeches, and tell you what to say, when to say it, and how to say it. You don't have to do interviews or have a press conference. A campaign like Mccains' can even set you up with easy interviews that make you look like you know what your talking about when you really don't. Now isn't that an easy way to be just a heart beat away from the presidency? Ask Palin, its her new role.

Posted by: Susan | September 9, 2008 12:21 AM | Report abuse

Came across this article, and the myriad replies via Google.

A gift to the conspiracy theorists:
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/sliming_palin.html

Lets see if there is any further BS about affars, lies, deceits and skullduggery can be shot down in flames.

Posted by: OneBuckFilms | September 9, 2008 12:19 AM | Report abuse

Here is the real deal with Palin:

http://www.novafantasysports.com

Posted by: Politco | September 8, 2008 11:57 PM | Report abuse

THE PALIN SELECTION AND THE DIMINUTION OF DEMOCRACY:
IS A SILENT COUP HAPPENING IN THE U.S.A?

• Could the Palin Phenomenon be a symptom of a seismic power grab that is transforming our government?

• Is the Palin selection part of a larger plan to seize control of the Executive Branch and make it beholden to another set of decision-makers -- unelected, entrenched, and in charge of the forces of power and control?

• Could the federal takeover of more than half of the mortgage market via the Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac bailout signal a turn toward autocratic control of the economy by hard-right conservatives who comprise the corporate/military/security complex -- what Eisenhower in his farewell address called the "military-industrial complex"?

• Could this seizure of economic control further the interests of those who are using government policy as "social engineering" to neutralize political opposition and transform society to suit their far-right ideology?

• Could this plan dovetail with reports from a Dutch newspaper this past week that the U.S. is planning to strike Iran's nuclear facilities?

• Could the fruition of the "Help America Vote Act," which led to the widespread use of electronic voting machines, the vast majority of which leave no voter-verified paper trail, also be part of this mosaic?

• Could John McCain's vacillations on the vice president issue and his eventual acquiescence to those who recommended Palin be part of a skillful campaign to influence and oversee his decision-making?

• Are we in the midst of a silent coup that is resulting in the loss of personal freedom via the extra-legal targeting of American citizens in an unconstitutional bypass of the judicial system, a denial of due process under the law?

• And is this power grab resulting in the emasculation of both Congress and the Judiciary, rendering those institutions little more than symbolic of power, when in fact power has been quietly usurped by unelected officials of entrenched institutions of power and control?

• Is anyone -- in the media, in Congress, in think tanks, in academia -- pondering these questions?

• If not, can we afford not to be asking these questions?

http://www.theocracywatch.org
http://www.members.nowpublic.com/scrivener - "Gov't Agencies Support Domestic Terrorism"

Posted by: Thomas Paine | September 8, 2008 11:53 PM | Report abuse

I've watched politics for decades, and I tell you this ... people like Sarah Palin do not come around to often. When they do they create a whirlwind of excitement.

Palin in 2012 ... yea, I can see that happening.

Posted by: almost there | September 8, 2008 11:50 PM | Report abuse

If experience has taught us anything, it has taught us that in politics we cannot see four years ahead, especially BEFORE this year's election!

It is way too early, everyone, to believe one way or the other about her in regard to THIS year's race, much less one in four years.

While I doubt I will ever be convinced she is good for our country, I cannot speak for the majority of the voters.

Posted by: Byron | September 8, 2008 11:47 PM | Report abuse

To Sean, the snarky little Dem Troll:

-Banning books in libraries

She didn't. She asked about removing some porn but the librarian told her it was a bad idea and she backed off. Sounds like someone who has her own thoughts but is open to the thoughts of others.

-Making rape victims carry their rapists babies.

She didn't. She made a choice for herself to be Pro-Life. That's her CHOICE. None of her policies have imposed that.

-The $400 million dollar bridge to nowhere. When it became popular she suddenly went against it, but kept the 400 mil.

Another lie. She was against it from the start. The $400 was never approved by Congress.

-Teaching creationism in Science classes.

She advocates teaching Creationism but not in science classes.

-Alaska seceding from the USA. Look into her, and her husbands support of the Alaskan Independence Party which adovcates secession.

Another lie. The AIP is not for succession, their platform which is stated on their own website is to have the PEOPLE VOTE for statehood since the admission was not voted in 1959.

-Believes that God sent us into the Iraq war. If by God she means Bush...

I doubt Sarah Palin who, from your own snarky point of view here believes in Creationism, is against abortion, and wants to keep pornography out of the hands of kids, would ever confuse President Bush with God. But how clever of you, Sean.

-Getting troopers fired who are in custody battles with her sister. Now she is trying to squash the Troopergate investigation.

Wootengate is about a bad cop that beat his wife who happened to be her sister. Or are you a Dukakis fan, Snarky Sean? (Do you even know what I mean by mentioning Dukakis?)

Buh bye, loser.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 11:43 PM | Report abuse

The more we learn about Palin, the worse her pick appears.

For:
-Banning books in libraries.
-Making rape victims carry their rapists babies.
-The $400 million dollar bridge to nowhere. When it became popular she suddenly went against it, but kept the 400 mil.
-Teaching creationism in Science classes.
-Alaska seceding from the USA. Look into her, and her husbands support of the Alaskan Independence Party which adovcates secession.
-Believes that God sent us into the Iraq war. If by God she means Bush...
-Getting troopers fired who are in custody battles with her sister. Now she is trying to squash the Troopergate investigation.

Posted by: Sean | September 8, 2008 11:27 PM | Report abuse

10:35 p.m. post:

"It says Anonymous, but it's me. You can tell because who else is convinced that the Obama campaign would waste the resources to point out the obvious?

"I have a MySpace account. OMG! BFF!"

Posted by: 37th&OStreet Translator | September 8, 2008 11:15 PM | Report abuse

So now everybody thinks Palin is ready to be president? She doesn´t have the experience to be it. Could you trust the destiny of America to a person who has been governor of Alaska for less than two years? One thing is that you acknowledge that she is not a Washington insider...but she is lacks the knowledge of America´s situation. Maybe Obama is right. Maybe people is stupid. Stupid enough to be so excited because a young face, and also a woman, appears in a presidential race. Come on people, this is not hollywood, this is not a search for a star, this is about facts and the future you will choose for you and your children

Posted by: Dante | September 8, 2008 8:17 PM


So Dante, Palin, with 2 yrs exec experience as gov, and more before that as mayor, isn't ready to be president.

But Obama, with 0 yrs exec experience, and no accomplishments through legislation, is?

Why, because he's black and your a lefty? Because you have white guilt?

Seriously, by your measures, how is Obama qualified to be president?

I have no doubt you won't answer this question, and we accept your apology in advance.

Posted by: JD | September 8, 2008 11:03 PM | Report abuse

I wish I knew who has absconded with my ID on this site.

This is the *real* JD, from Pr William Cty, obnoxious libertarian, friend of USMC Mike and MnA, scourge of drindls everywhere.

Oh yeah, the smartest guy in the room. Seriously.

Posted by: JD - the real one | September 8, 2008 10:59 PM | Report abuse

Isn't it amazing that someone who was a virtual unknown yesterday is now the greatest political mind in the nation. I guess all it takes is a little T&A and some BS. I thought Americans were smarter than that but look at the last eight years. Good luck with the next eight.

Posted by: Alaskan | September 8, 2008 10:41 PM | Report abuse

Chris


Obama has 300 paid staff bloggers at Obama headquarters who he is exercising no control over - is this how he intends to run the government ??


Can you imagine these paid Obama bloggers in an administration making policy??

THANK GOD THIS NATION HAS JOHN MCCAIN AND SARAH PALIN TO VOTE FOR.

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Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 10:36 PM | Report abuse

To the sick poster at 9:47


We know that you are a paid Obama staffer - this is a serious forum so please stop posting your silly stupid statements which make you look like a complete clown.

Until then I have two words for you

SARAH PALIN


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Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 10:35 PM | Report abuse

We haven't even finished this election and already everyone is running for 2012. If more articles like this appear then its taking away from the right of the voters who want to know about the issues and the contrast between the Democrats and the Republicans.

Chris you may be right to point this out lets all think about 2012 right now.


Posted by: Katherine | September 8, 2008 10:32 PM | Report abuse

To the poster at 10:20

Clearly you are a paid Obama staffer - are you attempting to get votes now by insulting the voters ???


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Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 10:30 PM | Report abuse

The paid staffers at Obama's headquarters have been so nasty to Sarah Palin and her family.

When it comes down to writing the history of this election -


It will be said that the paid Obama bloggers brought down the campaign with their nasty and obnoxious postings which the American people have REJECTED.


McCain and Sarah are now leading in the polls and they will pull further ahead week by week.


The paid Obama bloggers have destroyed Obama's campaign - this is completely fitting - the paid Obama staffers blogging have been harassing other posters for months and finally the American people have seen these people for who they really are - AND THEY SEE OBAMA FOR THE OBNOXIOUS PERSON HE IS FOR ALLOWING HIS PAID STAFF BLOGGERS TO ABUSE OTHER AMERICANS WHO ARE EXERCISING THEIR CONSTITUTIONAL FREEDOM OF SPEECH - GOOD RIDDANCE MR. OBAMA.

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Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 10:26 PM | Report abuse

We know, for a fact, that Sarah Palin lied about being "against" the infamous Bridge to Nowhere. I don't mean that she flip-flopped. I don't mean she waffled, or equivocated, or mislead, or was disingenuous, or misspoke. I mean she lied outright. Period. She was, in fact, a supporter of the now-mocked symbol of pork and earmarks. She was a supporter during the entire process, up until the now-magical point when the entire thing had devolved into farce, and not even Republicans could attach themselves to such a boondoggle without paying a political price. Then, and only then, did she distance herself from it.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/07/palin-in-06-i-wont-let-sp_n_124591.html
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And by "distance herself", we mean "kept the money".

We know, for a fact, that Sarah Palin lied about being "against" earmarks. As mayor of her small Alaskan town, she hired a Team Abramoff lobbyist to squeeze Washington for generous funds, funds far in excess of what the average American small town could expect. The lobbyist delivered nearly $27 million worth of earmarks to the town of less than ten thousand people: a fine haul, indeed. She said so herself, in her own handwriting.

http://www.washingtonindependent.com/4328/more-on-palins-true-stand-on-earmarks
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So she lied. Baldly and repeatedly. McCain is now on a multistate tour, repeating the very same lies -- and for Republicans, they are applause lines. Huzzah to the "anti-pork" governor whose state is more dependent on pork than any other state. Hooray for the "anti-earmarks" candidate who made a name for herself as a champion of the earmark.

The question is: what of it?

There is absolutely no penalty for lying, in politics. None. Zip. Nada. Sarah Palin could stand atop a stage and declare herself moon-goddess of Endor, and it wouldn't make a bit of difference. Yes, the papers would correct her. There would be a few cable stories on how there was no prior record of her being declared a moon-goddess. In the end, however, it would not matter, and it would not matter because Republicans have decided that it does not.


For Republicans, there is no longer any moral taboo whatsoever against lying outright. The only relevant question is whether the lie is effective -- not whether it should have been done in the first place. Karl Rove can rail against the inexperienced nature of one vice presidential candidate -- a Democrat -- and without the slightest bit of explanation (or shame), but happily pipe up with praise for an unequivocally, plainly less experienced Republican pick. It is not expected that he be self-consistent in the slightest. Everyone understands from the outset that his role is to say bad things about Democrats, and good things about Republicans, and if the two things conflict spectacularly it is not considered a symbol of his dishonesty or evidence of a histrionic maliciousness towards factual discourse. It is merely spin. He can make a farce of his own prior arguments -- what does it matter? If he is comfortable with it, and the people who look to him for guidance rally behind it, then we can Newspeak our way into and out of any argument as neat as you please.

So what of it, if offshore drilling will not reduce gas prices. It's fine to say it anyway -- it doesn't matter. So what if the President of the United States says "we do not torture", and then we discover that the White House itself authorized acts that are torture under any rational definition of the word. He's the President, he can lie about anything he likes, as long as it has nothing to do with sex. And honestly, even if it does.

So what of it, if Sarah Palin says crooked things with a straight face? Name me one Republican who will object. Name me one -- just ONE -- diehard conservative who will be angry at the lie, instead of praising her for it. To hell with facts, there is another election to be won.

This is why I consider the Republican Party to be, at this point, a wrecked party. There is no self-consistent philosophy other than the acquisition and protection of their own power: there are certainly no moral or ethical boundaries that the party will internally enforce. John Edwards, a Democrat, had his political career effectively terminated when news of an affair came to light; a Republican can visit a prostitute wearing a diaper, and find himself easily forgiven. You can lie, you can staff your government with morons and ideologues, you can give a speech saying one thing while doing the exact opposite (a Bush specialty, in his State of the Union speeches. We bemoan constantly the Democrats' failure to keep a unified front, in order to pass a more meaningful agenda -- but you would be hard pressed to find even a single, lone Republican in Washington willing to buck the moral collapse of their own party. Such people once existed: they were voted out of office. All that remain are "pseudo-mavericks" like McCain, figures who will countermand every previous belief in order to regain the support of his own Republican party.

Palin may be an unapologetic liar, but there isn't anything even slightly surprising about that because George Bush has been doing it for the last 8 years.

The question is, are Americans actually stupid enough to vote for McCain/Palin who represent the EXACT SAME DISASTEROUS POLICIES that we have had force fed to us the last eight years?

I hope not....

Posted by: McCain + Palin = Bush's third term | September 8, 2008 10:25 PM | Report abuse

Did some checking and found that the Palin racial-slur-of-Obama story, broken by Charley James on laprogressive.com, was referenced on the well respected DailyKos by "wah" in his diary [Fri Sep 05, 2008 at 02:48:10 PM PDT].

Also found out there has been a vigorous effort to suppress the story. Apparently "wah" was asked to delete his reference to it. Oh well. Why confuse people with the facts....

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 10:25 PM | Report abuse

Natasha I heard the same thing in my pct from HC supporters up until Palin was picked. No more. Even HC's chief fundraiser who said she would be supporting McCain said that ended with the choice of Palin. Go ahead and vote for a younger version of Phlyiss Schaffley but this is one HC who has taken down my McCain sign. The book censorship episode as mayor and running down the Alaskan school system to make it tops in high school drop outs did it for me; not having any understanding of the mtg criss should scare the heck out of any thinking voter. Don't act like you speak for all disaffected HC supporters. Even Peggy Noonan had the good sense to call Palin's choice for what it was: an uncharacteristically cynical political move by a desperate politician. I am angrier then you with how HC was treated but even that will not lead me to vote to put Sarah anywhere near leading this country in a time of economic peril verging on economic turmoil.

Posted by: Leichtman | September 8, 2008 10:21 PM | Report abuse

You Americans that have taken to Palin like a duck to water amaze me by your lack of intelligence. You knew nothing about Palin a week ago and today your all so excited about her becoming president in 2012. You are the same voters who elected GB the wet brain TWICE in fact. Dont you care about your country? The future of your children? the American economy? The bad name GB has created etc. etc. A donkey will not pass through a small gap a second time if he was scratched the first time. Here you want to entrust the future of America and your children to an old man nearing dementia and a loud big mouth gun slinging wild life destroyer as your next potential President. I guess Fox news has really got you hooked up and gobbling up every bit of garbage the fox news media spits out. Wake up we in Australia did when we booted out that petty tyrant John Howard out of not only as Prime minister but out of every political office. Boot the current government out that has screwed your country for 8 years. Don't be fools like we were by keeping the bstd petty tyrant for 3 terms.
Good luck guys I love you but I hate and utterly detest your war monger criminal leaders.
regards from down under

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 10:20 PM | Report abuse

9:12 p.m. post:

"I know what the Electoral College is - it is a 6 point underdog to Whatsamatter U. this Saturday.

"Oh shoot - the Translator is back. I hope he doesn't get a MySpace page!"

Posted by: 37th&OStreet Translator | September 8, 2008 9:54 PM | Report abuse

Just read Politico's piece by Mike Allen about Charlie Gibson's upcoming "interview" with Sarah Palin. Good grief! Instead of an honest-to-goodness SUBSTANTIVE hard-hitting INTERVIEW it sounds more like Charlie will be doing a PUFF CELEBRITY PIECE EXTRAORDINAIRE ala Barbara Walters!! This is really pathetic. No hard-hitting Q&A. Disgraceful. Is the rest of the MSM going to let Rick Davis & Co. get away with this? Can you imagine if this were "STEVE PALIN" - a total newcomer to the national political scene - who had not uttered ONE SINGLE UNSCRIPTED WORD IN 11 DAYS since being chosen??? Would the MSM be so meek and frankly, cowardly? Or would they create such a hew and cry about "Steve's" avoidance of answering TOUGH ISSUES questions that "Steve" would feel compelled to hold a press conference, do the Sunday political shows, etc.??? ONLY the WONDERFUL ROGER SIMON of POLITICO has had the GUTS to say that if Palin cannot answer the really TOUGH ISSUES questions from the MSM RIGHT NOW she has no business running to be VP! How about it MSM??? Are you as BRAVE as ROGER SIMON??? Or are you COWARDS who are SHIRKING your journalistic duties?


Posted by: Teresa | September 8, 2008 9:52 PM | Report abuse

Your point. YOUR point. YOUR POINT.

But it's not a point that matters to anyone else who hasn't already made up their mind. And to those who haven't, who truly haven't, attacking this woman will not work.

That's the real game, set, match. And I'm done trying to open your eyes. They're obviously permanently shut. Post this stuff all you want. You didn't get the memo, either. Good. Keep stirring the pot that Barry and his organization have told you explicitly to drop.

But remember, if you can get past your own ego: They're the strategists, not YOU. It's his campaign, not YOURS. They know what to press and what to pass, not YOU. He's running for President, not YOU.

And they've told you and the other trolls like you to lay off Sarah Palin.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 9:50 PM | Report abuse

Get Raped In Wassilla, Pay For The Processing Of Your Own Rape Kit.

The Frontiersman

This should encourage women to vote for McCain-Palin. When Sarah Palin was mayor of Wasilla her police department charged rape victims for processing rape kits. Nice!
ANCHORAGE - Gov. Tony Knowles recently signed legislation protecting victims of sexual assault from being billed for tests to collect evidence of the crime, but one local police chief said the new law will further burden taxpayers.

While the Alaska State Troopers and most municipal police agencies have covered the cost of exams, which cost between $300 to $1,200 apiece, the Wasilla police department does charge the victims of sexual assault for the tests.

Wasilla Police Chief Charlie Fannon does not agree with the new legislation, saying the law will require the city and communities to come up with more funds to cover the costs of the forensic exams.

According to Fannon, the new law will cost the Wasilla Police Department approximately $5,000 to $14,000 a year to collect evidence for sexual assault cases.

Posted by: ShanB | September 8, 2008 9:48 PM | Report abuse

9:31 p.m. post -

"I still refuse to believe that there is a such thing as the Electoral College. Therefore I shall cherry-pick nationwide polls that have McCain leading, to comfort myself that a black man will not be president. My rationalizing didn't work when Obama beat Clinton, but maybe if I close my eyes and click my heels three times, it will work now.

"The "O" in OStreet stands for ostrich, because I have my head buried in the sand."

Posted by: 47th&OStreet Translator | September 8, 2008 9:47 PM | Report abuse

The point is simply that IF Charley James's Sept. 5 article in laprogressive.com is correct, and Palin did say these things, these racial slurs against Obama, it is game, set, match.

Let's be clear: James's piece is not some snark or rant, it is a lengthy, sober Atlantic magazine-quality investigative article in which he quotes Alaskans who personally interfaced with her. Let readers read the article and decide its credibility for themselves. It's pretty shocking material.
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"I am reading the comments posted on laprogressive.com re the Sept. 5 article by Charley James on that site about Palin's racial slurs against Obama. The comments reflect surprise that, while the story is widely circulating the Internet, including serious established websites, the MSM is not covering this story. The reported slurs, overheard by third parties according to James, are horrible (we are talking word(s) far stronger than uppity). This is a shocking development. Seriously."

No, it's neither shocking nor serious. It's inessential to whom gets elected. Obviously, you didn't get the memo this week from the Obama Campaign about Palin. If you're so in love with Barry, then do what your leader tells you to do. You might then still have a chance at November. Otherwise, garbage like this, whether true or not (and THAT'S the point you keep missing), will continue to increase Palin's draw of votes.

Take a breath, step back, and do what Barry is telling you to do.

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Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 9:41 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, JD. And Harry Truman was just a tailor. Apparently you didn't get the memo, either. LOL

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 9:40 PM | Report abuse

I am thrilled that an "average mom" is on the Republican ticket for VP. She represents many of us! I don't want to think about her as President yet. I'm more concerned with the election of 2008. If she proves herself as a VP, then there will be no stopping her when John McCain in done being President.

Posted by: mmw | September 8, 2008 9:38 PM | Report abuse

Broadway Joe writes: "The electoral count from Daily Kos is as follows: kosblah, jerkblah, nutsblah, ditsblah, kosblah. So, even though O and Mac are basically tied in the national polls, O is way, way ahead in likely electoral votes."

But gee whiz, we all know after hearing it from the demrats umpteen million times that it's the popular vote that matters, right Sore-Loserman 2000? Americans everywhere are heartened that the demrats will fully support the election of McCain-Palin if they win even the popular vote.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 9:38 PM | Report abuse

Palin in 2012 will be just as serious as Dan Quayle's very brief presidential run in 1996 -- he was serious, but nobody took him seriously.

Posted by: JD | September 8, 2008 9:34 PM | Report abuse

The paid staffers at Obama's headquarters have been so nasty to Sarah Palin and her family.

When it comes down to writing the history of this election -


It will be said that the paid Obama bloggers brought down the campaign with their nasty and obnoxious postings which the American people have REJECTED.


McCain and Sarah are now leading in the polls and they will pull further ahead week by week.


The paid Obama bloggers have destroyed Obama's campaign - this is completely fitting - the paid Obama staffers blogging have been harassing other posters for months and finally the American people have seen these people for who they really are - AND THEY SEE OBAMA FOR THE OBNOXIOUS PERSON HE IS FOR ALLOWING HIS PAID STAFF BLOGGERS TO ABUSE OTHER AMERICANS WHO ARE EXERCISING THEIR CONSTITUTIONAL FREEDOM OF SPEECH - GOOD RIDDANCE MR. OBAMA.

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Posted by: 37th&OStreet | September 8, 2008 9:31 PM | Report abuse

"I am reading the comments posted on laprogressive.com re the Sept. 5 article by Charley James on that site about Palin's racial slurs against Obama. The comments reflect surprise that, while the story is widely circulating the Internet, including serious established websites, the MSM is not covering this story. The reported slurs, overheard by third parties according to James, are horrible (we are talking word(s) far stronger than uppity). This is a shocking development. Seriously."

No, it's neither shocking nor serious. It's inessential to whom gets elected. Obviously, you didn't get the memo this week from the Obama Campaign about Palin. If you're so in love with Barry, then do what your leader tells you to do. You might then still have a chance at November. Otherwise, garbage like this, whether true or not (and THAT'S the point you keep missing), will continue to increase Palin's draw of votes.

Take a breath, step back, and do what Barry is telling you to do.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 9:28 PM | Report abuse

The electoral count from Daily Kos is as follows: "Five weeks ago, it was Obama 336, McCain 202. I give the states to whoever leads in the Pollster.com polling aggregates. For this edition, it's Obama 309, McCain 229." So, even though O and Mac are basically tied in the national polls, O is way, way ahead in likely electoral votes.

Posted by: Broadway Joe | September 8, 2008 9:27 PM | Report abuse

You will all come to appreciate Sarah Palin, as her 80% approval ratings in Alaska attest. We have 60% Republicans and 40% Democrats in this state. If she has all the Republicans, then she's won over 1/2 the Democrats. Truth is, that the 20% that don't approve of her job performance, are the Democrats forever, and the other half are the displaced "good ole' boys" here. I've met Palin many times, she's down home, natural, approachable, and a hard worker. She'll do just fine. You may not like her own beliefs, but she will represent your will, and she will work hard. Just wait, watch, and listen.

Posted by: John | September 8, 2008 9:23 PM | Report abuse

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McCain and Sarah are ahead in the Electoral College and their lead will build all through September and October until Election Day - Senator McCain made an excellent choice.


http://www.myspace.com/37thandostreet

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Posted by: 37th&OStreet | September 8, 2008 9:12 PM | Report abuse

I am reading the comments posted on laprogressive.com re the Sept. 5 article by Charley James on that site about Palin's racial slurs against Obama. The comments reflect surprise that, while the story is widely circulating the Internet, including serious established websites, the MSM is not covering this story. The reported slurs, overheard by third parties according to James, are horrible (we are talking word(s) far stronger than uppity). This is a shocking development. Seriously.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 9:09 PM | Report abuse

Where's your manners, Chris?

As someone who was rooting for "anyone-but-Romney" as McCain's veep, I'm heartened by the selection of Palin.

That said, the suggestion that Palin will serve anything other than McCain's veep in 2012 is unseemly. People have been writing McCain's obituary (literal or political) for over 40 years. It is regrettable that instead of discussing McCain's bounce in the polls today we're discussing a post-McCain Palin.

Posted by: Heartland Moderate Gal | September 8, 2008 9:06 PM | Report abuse

"Hmm...makes a lot of sense. I suppose Sarah Palin can excuse herself from the VP debate as well so she doesn't have to respond to any losers' points of view just like she's dodging everyone but Charlie Gibson."

That's right. NOW you're getting a clue. The dems and their trolls have to stop convulsing and figure out a meaningful way to draw Palin out. Until they do, she'll continue to "pull an Obama" and dodge serious sober interviewers like O'Reilly until, OH NO, it became tactically advantageous for Barry to do so.

You posturing old school elitist dummies (like Kerry and his grades at Yale) who think it all gets resolved by making a point and demanding a response. What friggin children the lot of you are. Glad to see you're growing up and figuring out how things really work in an election.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 9:06 PM | Report abuse

LOL Jim. I lost count of the number of jokes you managed to stuff in your post. Fabulous job, man!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 9:00 PM | Report abuse

McCain and Palin will help depopulate the earth. This is why they have my vote. I anticipate great suffering, death and poverty, which will prevent any rational woman from wanting to birth a child in this dying world. I am sure that I will not be disappointed.

I have a stack of McCain/Palin bumper stickers that the congregation at my Church will use to plaster onto cars parked outside the lots of the local Mall. God hear our prayers.

Posted by: Johna The Christian Nihilist | September 8, 2008 8:58 PM | Report abuse

Nah, you're all missing THE essential point. Sarah's got the Tina Fey thing going for her. She's a shoe-in and, with her, McCain. You can't see that, you haven't been downstairs lately.

I just wish more 13-year old boys could vote. They probably do in Chicago but I don't hold out any hope of swinging Illinois. For myself I bought TWO copies of this week's 'Time Magazine.' One for our coffee table and one for my, uh, personal use.

Sorry, Tina. Dem's da breaks. (But I'll remember you fondly whenever I watch 'Toy Story II' again with my kids.)

Posted by: Jim | September 8, 2008 8:56 PM | Report abuse

Hmm...makes a lot of sense. I suppose Sarah Palin can excuse herself from the VP debate as well so she doesn't have to respond to any losers' points of view just like she's dodging everyone but Charlie Gibson.


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"Why don't you write something that refutes this point? Explain why this is incorrect with coherent arguments."

No one has an obligation to waste their time doing that. Responding to gibberish isn't necessary, nor is responding to a rationalizing postmodernist like you. All I'll mention is to quote from the PM Debate Manual: Find an obscure, inessential point. Then press it for all it's worth, as if it is the most essential and pivotal aspect of the discussion.

You're a hairbrained dolt, self-important, and missing any clue of what the change in the last two weeks means to grounded, down-to-earth Americans. In other words, there is no need to respond to a loser's point of view. Your perspective is bankrupt and you deserve what you shallowly foist on the rest of us. You earned my scorn. And that's all you get.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 8:42 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 8:53 PM | Report abuse

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McCain and Sarah are ahead in the Electoral College and their lead will build all through September and October until Election Day - Senator McCain made an excellent choice.


http://www.myspace.com/37thandostreet


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Posted by: 37th&OStreet | September 8, 2008 8:52 PM | Report abuse

Slow down, Mr. Cillizza:

Obama was so busy "worrying about Bill," and "measuring the drapes" that he forgot to realize that he had to WIN the election FIRST!

Rest assured, Vice President Palin will NOT make the same mistake.

Posted by: Dan Schwartz | September 8, 2008 8:51 PM | Report abuse

The federal government's seizure of Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac and the rise of the dollar today is proof that socialism, state ownership and heavy regulation works. It doesn't matter who is in office. State control of economy will continue and increase. Capitalism necessarily evolves into socialism. Embrace it. Accept it. The "free market" has never been free.

Posted by: Ace | September 8, 2008 8:50 PM | Report abuse

So now everybody thinks Palin is ready to be president? She doesn´t have the experience to be it. Could you trust the destiny of America to a person who has been governor of Alaska for less than two years? One thing is that you acknowledge that she is not a Washington insider...but she is lacks the knowledge of America´s situation. Maybe Obama is right. Maybe people is stupid. Stupid enough to be so excited because a young face, and also a woman, appears in a presidential race. Come on people, this is not hollywood, this is not a search for a star, this is about facts and the future you will choose for you and your children.
Posted by: Dante | September 8, 2008 8:17 PM
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So McCain made a political move with Palin to grab some of the "change" and "just plain folks" mantra and compete with the vacuous messianic allure offered by Obama. It is amusing to hear the arguments that she is not "ready on day one." Of course, she's not! But what is more frightening: the contingent possibility that she will be called upon to be ready or the absolute certainty that Obama would be up to bat on day one if he were elected? Any sane person would rather take their chances with a Vice President learning on the job than a President who had to!

Posted by: Cincinnati Rick | September 8, 2008 8:48 PM | Report abuse

I'm watching video of Palin on Olberman tonite, she is sporting a flagpin at least 10 times bigger than Bush or McCain, does that mean she is 10 times the patriot?? or does it mean she is just 10 times the biggest liar!

Posted by: Rosewren02 | September 8, 2008 8:43 PM | Report abuse

"Why don't you write something that refutes this point? Explain why this is incorrect with coherent arguments."

No one has an obligation to waste their time doing that. Responding to gibberish isn't necessary, nor is responding to a rationalizing postmodernist like you. All I'll mention is to quote from the PM Debate Manual: Find an obscure, inessential point. Then press it for all it's worth, as if it is the most essential and pivotal aspect of the discussion.

You're a hairbrained dolt, self-important, and missing any clue of what the change in the last two weeks means to grounded, down-to-earth Americans. In other words, there is no need to respond to a loser's point of view. Your perspective is bankrupt and you deserve what you shallowly foist on the rest of us. You earned my scorn. And that's all you get.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 8:42 PM | Report abuse

Charley James's article on Palin's alleged racial slur of Obama in laprogressive.com reads as a serious piece. Let the readers decide what to make of it. The article has been picked up by numerous respected sites. If James's piece is bogus, the press should expose it. But if it's not, Palin should be disqualified.
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"In a lengthy investigative piece dated Sept. 5 .... Charlie James provides shocking, shocking (!) details of alleged sexist slurs the miscreants on the Left continue to direct at Sarah, overheard by others. True? Who knows? But it reads as a very serious sober article and has been picked by numerous sites. If it is true, the Left would be disqualified for continuing to believe socialism works, after the theory has been discredited, but more importantly after 100 years of seeing just how their schemes work out in the former Soviet Union, North Korea, Cambodia, Communist China, Cuba, Vietnam, and now Venezuela. Oh, let's not forget the over 300 million dead due to those policies, too.

Yeah, it's quite an article. Right on point."

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 8:42 PM | Report abuse

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McCain and Sarah are ahead in the Electoral College and their lead will build all through September and October until Election Day - Senator McCain made an excellent choice.


http://www.myspace.com/37thandostreet

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Posted by: 37th&OStreet | September 8, 2008 8:41 PM | Report abuse

Palin for president in 08, I cant wait till 2012., Just wish the media had more access to her., So we could figure out who she is.

Has anyone else read this story about a possible Affair Sarah Palin had? That is just one of the Scandals listed at this site. http://www.hotpres.com

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 8:41 PM | Report abuse

I am afraid that millions will have to die before Palin will ever be declared our president. Praise Jesus. God save us all.

Posted by: Johna The Christian Nihilist | September 8, 2008 8:38 PM | Report abuse

I thought that post was silly, too. Phrases like "serious sober article" made me laugh out loud. Don't you love those posts by 13 year old girls? Ask yourself what's the distinction those adjectives support? "Serious sober" versus what? Serious drunk? Silly sober?

What an idiot.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 8:36 PM | Report abuse


Why don't you write something that refutes this point? Explain why this is incorrect with coherent arguments.


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"There's no substance there."

LMAO

It's phenomenal, just phenomenal how demrats continue to underestimate their betters. Keep it up.

And, thank you!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 8:29 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 8:32 PM | Report abuse

In a lengthy investigative piece dated Sept. 5 in "ilikeitupmybutt.com," Charlie James provides shocking, shocking (!) details of alleged sexist slurs the miscreants on the Left continue to direct at Sarah, overheard by others. True? Who knows? But it reads as a very serious sober article and has been picked by numerous sites. If it is true, the Left would be disqualified for continuing to believe socialism works, after the theory has been discredited, but more importantly after 100 years of seeing just how their schemes work out in the former Soviet Union, North Korea, Cambodia, Communist China, Cuba, Vietnam, and now Venezuela. Oh, let's not forget the over 300 million dead due to those policies, too.

Yeah, it's quite an article. Right on point.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 8:32 PM | Report abuse

"There's no substance there."

LMAO

It's phenomenal, just phenomenal how demrats continue to underestimate their betters. Keep it up.

And, thank you!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 8:29 PM | Report abuse

In a lengthy investigative piece dated Sept. 5 in "laprogressive.com," Charlie James provides shocking details of alleged racial slurs Palin directed at Barack, overheard by others. True? Who knows. But it reads as a very serious sober article and has been picked by numerous sites. If it is true, Palin would be disqualified.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 8:28 PM | Report abuse

Sure, rosewren. Go take your meds. McCain-Palin on top by 10 points now. Oh, the "convention bounce?" Yeah, keep deluding yourself all the way to another November loss. LOL

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 8:27 PM | Report abuse

Judging by the way McCain looked the other day on the stump, she might be president even before 2012.

Posted by: info | September 8, 2008 8:26 PM | Report abuse

No, definitely not everyone thinks Palin is ready to be president.

Palin and McCain = another 4 years of the same.

Neither of them have spelled out how their plans will take America in a direction that is different from the last 8 years.

There's no substance there.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 8:26 PM | Report abuse

"Maybe people is stupid."

Yep, you can write that again.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 8:25 PM | Report abuse

Palin is a poor substitute for Mitt Romney. Should I vote for her this year it will be purely symbollic support for women in general and not a long term commitment to vote for her again. Please don't do me this favor!! This would not be a vote in support of women, it would be more like a vote that would malign pitbulls more than they have already been maligned. Just like bad pit bull owners exist John McCain owns this pit bull (Palin) and seeing her disgusting tirade at convention she is just a really bad pitbull!

Posted by: Rosewren02 | September 8, 2008 8:25 PM | Report abuse

So now everybody thinks Palin is ready to be president? She doesn´t have the experience to be it. Could you trust the destiny of America to a person who has been governor of Alaska for less than two years? One thing is that you acknowledge that she is not a Washington insider...but she is lacks the knowledge of America´s situation. Maybe Obama is right. Maybe people is stupid. Stupid enough to be so excited because a young face, and also a woman, appears in a presidential race. Come on people, this is not hollywood, this is not a search for a star, this is about facts and the future you will choose for you and your children

Posted by: Dante | September 8, 2008 8:17 PM | Report abuse

I'm an old retired guy who doesn’t have to work and I can honestly say it won't matter to me in the long run who wins this election. At my age any election I participate in could be my last. I do believe however that the current administration has been the worst in my lifetime (born during FDR). I don't think anyone can rationally deny that. We have had 8 years of corruption, unnecessary war and shredding of the Constitution. Over the weekend we reached the highest unemployment rate in 5 years and the deregulated Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac had to be rescued by the taxpayers before they collapsed of their own accord. Now this party wants us to give them 4 more years so that John the "maverick" can fix Washington. ...like I was born yesterday.

If "small town working class" rust-belt voters and disgruntled Clinonistas in Ohio, Pa., Michigan and Indiana help re-elect the GOP then I for one don't want to hear anymore whining from them about their disappearing jobs and livelihoods, the high cost of college and gas, lack of health care etc. Let Johnnie's "patriotism" put food on your table. Go flip burghers!

Screw 'ya. Cling to your guns and religion. Pray to Jesus when you go hunting for a meal. Stay with that church and keep your weapon. You will need both the soup kitchen and the rifle. You will deserve what you get.

I got mine already. I live comfortably in the sunny South on a golf course, got my steady income, my "socialist" medicare and prescription drug coverage that you younger people wish you had but will never get under the Republicans. I sent my girls to college and they are successfully out on their own. The world won't run out of gas before I go and the planet won't get too hot.

A McCain election ain't gonna hurt me!

As Johnny Carson used to say - I upped my lifestyle - up yours!

God helps those who help themselves - if you're in deep doodoo economically and you vote Republican for their "values", you deserve it.

Posted by: toritto | September 8, 2008 8:16 PM | Report abuse

Palin for president in 08, I cant wait till 2012., Just wish the media had more access to her., So we could figure out who she is.

Has anyone else read this story about a possible Affair Sarah Palin had? That is just one of the Scandals listed at this site. http://www.hotpres.com

This site has the inside scoop about the Palin Dui Secret, http://www.duihelpguide.com Why hasnt the news covered this?

This site has background info on sarah Palin Bio, Pics, Videos, Alot of Polls like how many people actually think that she is attractive? http://www.theveep.com

Despite all of this, and her lack of experiance she would probably make a much better president then McCain., Because like Obama she hasnt been corrupted by washington yet. We should probably reverse the ticket Palin/McCain.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 8:12 PM | Report abuse

--""She has real potential to change the direction of the GOP back to it's conservative and somewhat libertarian roots."--

LOL!! 'somewhat libertarian roots' - what a throw away line! The GOP had it's chance to show it's "small government, personal liberties" roots and has come up "somewhat" short.

Let the culture wars and faith-based governance continue . . .

Posted by: NoOneImportant | September 8, 2008 8:11 PM | Report abuse

Alamanlda condiau menotropama lamalama kowabonga mochatompama........oh excuse me...I was speaking in tongues!

What a country! Boy am I glad I'm old!!

P. S. I've also come to the conclusion that the most oppressed in the closet minority in this country are...atheists.

Posted by: toritto | September 8, 2008 8:10 PM | Report abuse

THE PALIN SELECTION AND THE DIMINUTION OF DEMOCRACY:
IS A SILENT COUP HAPPENING IN THE U.S.A?

• Could the Palin Phenomenon be a symptom of a seismic power grab that is transforming our government?

• Is the Palin selection part of a larger plan to seize control of the Executive Branch and make it beholden to another set of decision-makers -- unelected, entrenched, and in charge of the forces of power and control?

• Could the federal takeover of more than half of the mortgage market via the Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac bailout signal a turn toward autocratic control of the economy by hard-right conservatives who comprise the corporate/military/security complex -- what Eisenhower in his farewell address called the "military-industrial complex"?

• Could this seizure of economic control further the interests of those who are using government policy as "social engineering" to neutralize political opposition and transform society to suit their far-right ideology?

• Could this plan dovetail with reports from a Dutch newspaper this past week that the U.S. is planning to strike Iran's nuclear facilities?

• Could the fruition of the "Help America Vote Act," which led to the widespread use of electronic voting machines, the vast majority of which leave no voter-verified paper trail, also be part of this mosaic?

• Could John McCain's vacillations on the vice president issue and his eventual acquiescence to those who recommended Palin be part of a skillful campaign to influence and oversee his decision-making?

• Are we in the midst of a silent coup that is resulting in the loss of personal freedom via the extra-legal targeting of American citizens in an unconstitutional bypass of the judicial system, a denial of due process under the law?

• And is this power grab resulting in the emasculation of both Congress and the Judiciary, rendering those institutions little more than symbolic of power, when in fact power has been quietly usurped by unelected officials of entrenched institutions of power and control?

• Is anyone -- in the media, in Congress, in think tanks, in academia -- pondering these questions?

• If not, can we afford not to be asking these questions?

http://www.theocracywatch.org
http://www.members.nowpublic.com/scrivener - "Gov't Agencies Support Domestic Terrorism"

Posted by: Thomas Paine | September 8, 2008 8:03 PM | Report abuse

Jed wrote: "Romney has my vote and I hope financial support in 2012."

Oh yeah, if we take MA as an example. This state was and still is in a total mess. Palin has dome a better job in Alaska!!

No way, I would vote Romney for President!

Taxachusetts they call it!!

Posted by: Natasha | September 8, 2008 7:52 PM | Report abuse

Chris, I don't think so. Assistant Deputy County Clerk perhaps, but not President in 2012.

Both the Republican leader of the Alaska State Senate (a female) and the Republican Speaker of the Alaska State House have stated Palin is not even qualified for her present position of governor.

Were the U.S. press still functioning -- they have decided to go in the tank for Palin, I guess -- Palin would have been exposed as just another runner up in a state beauty pageant.

Instead, through tightly scripted speeches and events, and by preventing the media from reporting on her or interviewing her, the corporate political system has presented her as some kind of new phenonenon. It's really quite sad.

Keith Olbermann, who was the only one in the MSM speaking the truth to power about Palin, has been knee-capped. He will not be allowed to anchor any election events for NBC. No good deed goes unpunished.

During Tim Russert's tenure, Palin would have exposed as an idiot in about five days. Had she shown up on Russert's Meet the Press, she would have left in tears after Russert asked her about all the major issues of the day.

Now we're left with Charlie Gibson, who co-anchored that foolish O-HRC debate where George S. asked Obama if he thought Rev. Wright loved America as much as he did, and David Gregory. Sad.

The Washington Post's puff piece on Palin over the weekend was a travesty, reflecting literally no reporting on any of the controversies surrounding Mrs. P: Breakwater-gate (which, incredibly, the NY Times still couldn't get to the bottom of), Troopergate, relationship-with-husband's-best-friend-gate, etc. No mention of her views, which fully endorse Pat Buchanan's extreme agenda (which takes up several full pages on the Anti-Defamation League web page). In fact, the Post article contained very little of the information on her that a 10-minute search on the Internet would have disclosed.

This cheerleader may well get to be President of the U.S. without having undergone any vetting by her own campaign or the press. Oy.

The only good news is despite the press laying down, Hillary's double-crossing refusal to challenge Palin on behalf of Barack, and the weak national poll numbers, O is still way ahead in the polls in terms of electoral votes (see Daily Kos analysis today).

Posted by: Broadway Joe | September 8, 2008 7:52 PM | Report abuse

Sarah can handle a gun - that is enough for me. The message is: you do not have to worry about her giving the order to shoot the terrorists - SHE IS GOING TO SHOOT THEM HERSELF.

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Posted by: 37th&OStreet | September 8, 2008 7:48 PM | Report abuse

she may be the (R) nominee in '12, only to be crushed by Obama's second term or if he screws up, by Hil's historic, successful run to the presidency. there is no other explanation for why SP accepted the nom. so, she will run a nakedly negative campaign now, let morals "catch up" to her own family dysfunction, then step in to crush romney, huckebee or paul in 2012 because she is the right's "right". also, Mad Mac's lack of proper vetting can only point to a hurried, scatter shot process made ridiculous by this choice. we already know, by simple googling, that SP is the wrong person for the the wrong job, now and tomorrow.

Posted by: preAmerikkkan | September 8, 2008 7:47 PM | Report abuse

Really? Really? Do you really want to entertain the idea that a Pentecostal could actually win the Presidency of the United States of American? Would she speak in tongues during the inaugural address?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 7:42 PM | Report abuse

"Without "national security" there can not be "solid economy"! National security is a prerequisite to our economic well-being!"

In my work I've had the opportunity to speak with some of the world's foremost experts on counter-terrorism. Some of them are military advisors and have been a part of the Iraq study group, some have worked at the White House and others teach at major universities.

I originally was up in the air about who to vote for. I noticed that the things I heard them say were more in line with what Obama had been saying and actually counter to what McCain has been saying.

Still don't know who I'll vote for but I want a President who will listen to his advisors.

Posted by: JR | September 8, 2008 7:41 PM | Report abuse

Palin is a poor substitute for Mitt Romney. Should I vote for her this year it will be purely symbollic support for women in general and not a long term commitment to vote for her again.

Romney has my vote and I hope financial support in 2012.

Posted by: Jed | September 8, 2008 7:37 PM | Report abuse

Do you think it is fair to question a candidate on the issues they bring forth?

Let's examine that.

I'm a Hockey Mom: Whether it be her or her husband, someone has got to get control of their kids, they are out getting knocked-up and drinking hard booze (possibly while pregnant) and shooting off guns (real good combination there) and that is just what we know about.

Earmarks: Under her lead, Alaska has the highest earmark per-capita.

Fiscal Conservative: She left a fly-speck town of 6,000 over $22 million in debt. That's over $3k per resident. Her hockey rink project was a disaster because she failed to make sure Wassila owned the land before she started permits, etc.

Standing up to the Big Boys: We all now know the truth about the bridge to Nowhere and her hiring a lobbyist to secure earmarks for her town.

This woman's reputation as a reformer is a lie. Poor family values, under investigation for ethics violations, tried to have the town librarian fired for refusing to ban books, incompetent manager of funds, her own pastor problems, her husband a longtime member of a group who's sole aim is to break up the union.. it just goes on and on.

If you want to like her go ahead but please don't put this Woman in charge of our future, the fact is we've only known her for 10 days and only what they tell us because she won't speak with the public.

She's just like McCain in that she's got the wrong kind of experience.


Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 7:31 PM | Report abuse

"At least Bush's screw-ups are fixable, whereas Obama has plans that would degrade the very freedom we enjoy as Americans. So let's bring in the real reformers in McCain and Palin and dodge the Obama bullet."

George trashed the Constitution, declared Habeas Corpus optional (at the option of the President), deeply politicized the Department of Justice, declared that he can take away the rights of anyone he deems an enemy of the people.

Just what freedoms is it Barack wants to take away?

This campaign becomes more surreal every minute. McCain now has a television ad out that claims the Barack will raise taxes and run huge budget deficits. In that ad John goes back to the old Democrats tax and spend routine, as if a Republican President in the last forty eight years has ever submitted a balanced budget. Nine Trillion dollars in increased debt by Republicans, constantly decreasing deficits and balanced budgets by Democrats.

I don't believe McCain actually knows what Rove and company are putting his name on. He's gone sufficiently senile that he just doesn't understand. In a month he may not be able to hide it.

Posted by: ceflynline@msn.com | September 8, 2008 7:31 PM | Report abuse

Quote posted by dl: "yeah well maybe when she's talking about the Truman Doctrine...
you might want to educate her on fannie Mae and Freddy Mac...cause she seems a little confused from the first question she has been actually asked ..."

Reply to dl:

I would rather have as a VP a "patriotic" American, who knows what the "Truman Doctrine" is all about than having a far-left-wing-liberal giving me a "speech" about Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac!

Without "national security" there can not be "solid economy"! National security is a prerequisite to our economic well-being!

I wonder why the darn media is not asking Obama if he knows what the Truman Doctrine is, so we can laugh with his "this is above my grade" answer!!

Posted by: Natasha | September 8, 2008 7:21 PM | Report abuse

Congrats to the GOP for successfully propping up the lie that is Sarah Palin.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 7:17 PM | Report abuse

WHAT CATASTROPHE? CUTTING TAXES ON 95% ON MOST AMERICANS IS ACTUALLY PRETTY GOOD WOULDNT U SAY?

GROW UP. the bottom 50% DON'T PAY income taxes, by the time all the credits and deductions are factored in (and you average out the earned income credit.) That top 5% that nObama plans to SCREW are the ones that make jobs, grow the economy, invest in the USA. F*^k with them, they take their $$$ and play somewhere else. We already have the second highest business tax in the world and you wonder why our economy is slow. The mortage crisis! What fool takes out a mortage that he isn't 100% sure he can afford. Don't say the economy causes all of those mortage defaults.

Posted by: jtlavery | September 8, 2008 7:14 PM | Report abuse

Oooops!!!

My previous comment is a reply to a blogger by the name "Former Republican". The way I posted it looks as if I am saying that Palin is a ...former Republican! Sorry!!

Posted by: Natasha | September 8, 2008 7:03 PM | Report abuse

Former Republican, Palin has been on the national scene 10 days! In those 10 days she had to make her acceptance speech - deal with the hoopla of the obnoxious media regarding her daughter's pregnancy (speaking about real issues that the media was interested in), she has been on the road, and also has a son who is living for Iraq this Thursday. Time for interviews , allright!

The whole crap about her not giving interviews has been touted by CNN predominately because of that rediculous inteview between Campbell Brown and Tucker Bounds in which Brown was questioning among other things about Palin's decision to accept the VP nomination while she has to juggle 5 kids! McCain cancelled his own appearance at the Larry King show that night and informed CNN that they will no longer answer their questions or grant interviews regarding her private life or he vetting for tham matter because of the unfair way that the media was treating Palin.

The fact is that Palin has granted her first interview to ABC - to air this week. I am glad that McCain did not grant it to CNN - the 24 hour "News for Dummies" network!

Posted by: Natasha | September 8, 2008 6:59 PM | Report abuse

Man, some of you are writting friggin novels here.
You should be aware, if you post more than a 200 word reply, 70% of us aren't gonna even bother reading it.
More than 200 words, then post it as an article for peps to reply on.
Your message is being lost.

Posted by: Bobo4bush | September 8, 2008 6:43 PM | Report abuse

Huckabee 2012, Palin can stay VP though.


This site has the inside scoop about the Palin Dui Secret, http://www.duihelpguide.com
Why hasnt the news covered this?


We should probably reverse the ticket Palin/McCain.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 6:42 PM | Report abuse

Palin for president in 08, I like her much more then McCain. I cant wait till 2012., Just wish the media had more access to her., So we could figure out who she is.

Has anyone else read this story about a possible Affair Sarah Palin had? That is just one of the Scandals listed at this site. http://www.hotpres.com

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 6:41 PM | Report abuse

My friends supported Hillary based on the "total package" - not on one single issue or two. Hillary was ready to be Commander in Chief - Obama is NOT! Hillary is a centrist - Obama is a FEFTIST!

In the absence of Hillary they will vote for McCain or in the case of one of them she will stay home on election day. They would have voted for the democratic ticket id Obama had not dumpt Hillary. He made his bed - let him sleep on it now... They also feel that the Clintons owe Obama NOTHING!

Posted by: Natasha | September 8, 2008 6:40 PM | Report abuse

JUST THE FACTS,

Valiant attempt to present facts. They clearly won't matter to a lot of people who are busy canceling their US Weekly subscriptions.

Make sure to vote and encourage those who believe the presidency and vice-presidency merit a basic standard of competency to also get out there and vote!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 6:40 PM | Report abuse

The way I see it is an empty suit is an empty suit, male or female. So you might as well go for the one who can shoot a one inch pattern at 500 yards and field gut a moose (soon to be a donkey) in 45 seconds. Better yet how about a winner take all game of hoops? One-on-one between - Barrak "The Babble-fish" Obama versus Sarah "The Barracuda" Palin.

You Go Girl! Show Hillary how a real American can shatter the glass ceiling.

Posted by: Pinkey | September 8, 2008 6:39 PM | Report abuse

WOW, how stupid are some people.
One Dem-Liberal says use every dirty trick in the book to win, Americans are uneducated and ignorant, and dirty play will win the election. NEWS flash, education doesn't necessarily make you smart. YOu say nObama has 8 ys State experience, my a$$, he voted PRESENT more than yes or no almost ALL the time. That takes real charecter, and he must be really SMART if he can't figure out if an issue needs a yes or no. (Maybe he was too busy to study any issues, just like he knows nothing on current issues.)
The other fool, says Palin would make his young teenager deliver a baby even if she was raped, how stupid do you have to be to ALWAYS use one "script" on the abortion issue. Dem Liberals think nObama is Gods gift, his experience is hanging up signs on light poles, and TALKING. Real solid stuff there! And GLOBAL WARMING, dont get me started, biggest fraud in the history of mankind with one purpose, take money from the wealthy nations and send it to the poor nations (and those handling the money will make their FAIR share.) Just because it gets repeated over and over againt doesn't make it true. STUDY the ISSUE a little bit before opening your craptrap. Let's see, if it weren't for global warming we would still be in the ICE FRICKING AGE, that would be great for the POOR POLAR BEARS. Talk to me about CO2, less than 1/3 of one percent of our atmosphere, neglible increase/change and we want to break the economly of every nation talking about the melting polar caps and glaciers. Fill a glass up with ice, then fill the same glass to the brim with water, then watch the ice melt and the level in the glass GO DOWN not overflow. Simple science. nObama for me, nor his washington cronie Biden, he's made me sick for years, listenting to him pontificate, never giving any of the poeple testifying before his panel the courtesy allowing them to actualy answer.
It'll be nice to see both of them leave politics.. WOW, I feel better getting all that off my chest. God Bless America!

Posted by: jtlavery | September 8, 2008 6:38 PM | Report abuse

Too bad it can't be Hillary vs. Palin in 2012. Talk about a cat fight...

http://www.political-buzz.com/

Posted by: matt | September 8, 2008 6:34 PM | Report abuse

Palin Hasn’t Given The War In Iraq Much Thought. Palin told the Alaska Business Monthly, “I’ve been so focused on state government, I haven’t really focused much on the war in Iraq. I heard on the news about the new deployments, and while I support our president, Condoleezza Rice and the administration, I want to know that we have an exit plan in place.” (Alaska Business Monthly, 3/107)

Palin Has Never Been To Iraq. In her only trip overseas, Palin visited Alaska National Guard troops stationed in Kuwait and Germany in July 2007. [AP, 7/25/07]

Palin Has Never Been To Iraq. In her only trip overseas, Palin visited Alaska National Guard troops stationed in Kuwait and Germany in July 2007. [AP, 7/25/07]

Palin Didn’t Have A Passport Until 2007. Palin first obtained a passport in July 2007 for her trip to Kuwait and Germany to visit Alaska National Guard troops. Her only other trip outside of the United States was to Canada. A Palin spokeswoman had previously said that Palin had also been to Ireland, although it was actually just a “refueling stop” on her Germany/Kuwait trip. (New York Times, 8/29/08)

Palin Obtained $27 Million In Earmarks As Mayor Of Wasilla. As mayor of Wasilla, AK, Palin “hired a private lobbyist to help the tiny town secure earmarks from [Sen. Ted] Stevens.” “The town obtained 14 earmarks, totaling $27 million between 2000-2003.” (Associated Press, 9/3/08)

Palin Failed To Support A Bill To Cover All Alaskans. While governor, Palin “did not get behind the most significant piece of health legislation offered — a proposal to ensure that all residents have health insurance, without disrupting the coverage that many Alaskans already have.” [Anchorage Daily News, 5/17/2008]

Palin Left Wasilla $20 Million In Debt. As mayor of Wasilla, Palin cut taxes while simultaneously expanding the town’s operating budget by almost $2 million. She ended her term in 2002 with Wasilla $20 million in debt. (Anchorage Daily News 10/23/06)

Posted by: JUST THE FACTS | September 8, 2008 6:32 PM | Report abuse

Natasha

yeah well maybe when she's talking about the Truman Doctrine...

you might want to educate her on fannie Mae and Freddy Mac...cause she seems a little confused from the first question she has been actually asked ...

1 question asked, 1 question flubbed

3, 287 left to flub...hopefull she can atleast make contact with 1 out of 3.

scary scary scary

1 question and she screws it up already...go look at her whacked answer on the banking crisis today...oy.

the worst VP choice in our history.

Posted by: dl | September 8, 2008 6:30 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin: not ready to be vice president, not ready to be president.

Hey, if she's such hot stuff, how come she hasn't had a single real interview since being nominated? Where's the beef? What, Sarah Barracuda can't handle it?

If you can't handle an interview, you should be ashamed to run for VP.

Posted by: Former Republican | September 8, 2008 6:29 PM | Report abuse

Here's a simple exercise. Google "obama mccain taxes" and see who has been lying to you.

Posted by: underdog | September 8, 2008 6:29 PM | Report abuse

There is a pretty clear line between having decisions informed by faith, and calling your decisions "God's will," as if God told you to do something.

The former is called being influenced by your experiences, and the latter is called being crazy.

I think Palin is on the wrong side of that line, and I'd prefer to have her finger very very far from the button.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 6:28 PM | Report abuse

Hey, left-wing-liberals - do you even know what the "Truman Doctrine" is? I am certain that Palin does, trust me...

otherwise you are in for another big surprise - the best is yet to come from Sarah Palin!!

History 101 for some uneducated left-wing-liberals led by "geopolitically" inept and clueless "Campbell Brown, CNN Family & Friends"

History Lesson #1:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmQD_W8Pcxg

History Lesson #2:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vU8bbgzfJu8


McCain-Palin '08
Palin '12


Posted by: Natasha | September 8, 2008 6:26 PM | Report abuse

Joe Biden was in Georgia talking with the President of Georgia and the U.S. Ambassador to Georgia after the crisis broke out. Biden was relaying information to the Bush administration, which was totally blindsided by the crisis. This was all before the McCain campaign showed Sarah Palin where Georgia (the country) is on map.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 6:24 PM | Report abuse

Natasha, I suspect the only issue your friends were and are voting on is internal plumbing. Palin and Hillary have very little in common on other issues.

And I find it rather curious that your friends supposedly oppose Barack Obama on the basis of gay marriage. Obama is against "gay marriage" but pro-civil unions. Same as Hillary. Obama and Hillary are both pro-choice. I'm not sure that a real pro-lifer would ever support Hillary.

Something in your story does not make sense.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 6:18 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin is sexy and good looking.
She is going to be the third term Dick Cheney.
She is going to shoot her fellow hunter on a moose hunting and the hunter will apologize for what happen to the incident.
She will establish a company named Hellenburton Energy Company for oil and gas exploration and production.

I dont see changes on Republican.

Posted by: John | September 8, 2008 6:18 PM | Report abuse

The 3:00 AM Call to the White House...

If Obama bin Biden answers that "3:00 AM call to the White House" he would forward it to...the United Nations!

Is this what you want America?

Do not vote left-wing-liberal Obama bin Biden to be our next Commander in Chief. It took 3 statements by him (and this after speaking with his 300+ foreign policy consultants) to kind of condemn (he still did not even come close to it) Russia for invading a democratic and sovereign country...

And, this while Senator McCain, Senator Clinton, our government, and ALL our allies - blasted Russia's invasion of Georgia! Even China turned its back to Russia on the Georgia issue despite the fact that the Russian leaders - Medvedev (Putin's hand picked puppet) and Putin himself were courting China's support on the Georgia conflict!! Ha-ha!

Go McCain-Palin '08
Go Palin '12..... :-)

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 6:16 PM | Report abuse

Not until she begins to grasp the meaning of 'community.' ..................
http://thefiresidepost.com/2008/09/09/the-red-cross-darn-community-organizers/

Posted by: Ohg Rea Tone | September 8, 2008 6:16 PM | Report abuse

Natasha,

Sorry, but your position doesn't fit the facts.

Her opposition and subsequent "killing" of the Bridge to Nowhere didn't occur until it was wildly unpopular, and in fact the federal funding for the project had been reallocated.

Didn't stop her from keeping the money.

The veracity of her position on this issue is more than questionable when she has a record on earmarks that includes hiring a Jack Abramoff disciple to secure pork while she was mayor of Wasilla.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 6:15 PM | Report abuse

I think Chris has a veep-crush.

It is crazy to make predictions about 2012. But here is what we know:

1. She gave a good scripted speech.

2. Her husband likes snow mobiles.

3. Segments of the religious right love her.

Of course she'll be in the talk if McCain fizzles this year (God-willing). Hell, she might even be the next John Edwards! Or the next Joe Lieberman! Point being, the losing veep candidate hardly has a storied history of taking home the brass ring for years later. And I am glad about that because it lets me sleep a little easier at night.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 6:14 PM | Report abuse

Luv to address this entry:

love watching all these liberal posters throw every insult they can think of at this accomplished woman. Obama and his leftist Kool-Aid drinking clan are running scared.

PALIN HERSELF SAID SHE WAS A PITBULL WITH LIPSTICK...ACCOMPLISHED? IN SHOOTING POLAR BEARS FROM THE SKY?

Sarah Palin is not ready to be President, but she's an outstanding candidate for Vice President. And with Palin bringing more experience to the #2 spot, than Obama has in the #1 spot, McCain-Palin is a winning ticket.

HELLO? OUTSTANDING? SHE KNOWS NOTHING ABOUT FOREIGN POLICY... XPERIENCE? I GUESS BEING THE MAJOR OF A BITSY NOTHING TOWN IS SORT OF LIKE EXPERIENCE

The U.S. may actually be able to avoid the catastrophe that Obama would bring by bloating the federal government and inserting its bureaucracy into every asset of people's lives.

WHAT CATASTROPHE? CUTTING TAXES ON 95% ON MOST AMERICANS IS ACTUALLY PRETTY GOOD WOULDNT U SAY?

At least Bush's screw-ups are fixable, whereas Obama has plans that would degrade the very freedom we enjoy as Americans. So let's bring in the real reformers in McCain and Palin and dodge the Obama bullet.

THE IRAQ WORTH IS A $10 BILLION DISASTER...NOT THAT EASY TO FIX...
FANNIE MAE/FREDDIE MAC WERE JUST BAILED OUT...AND THIS OCCURRED DURING 8 YEARS OF BUSH RULE...JOHN MCCAIN WAS AND IS IN THE US SENATE...HES NOT AGAINST WASHINGTON...HE'S WASHINGTON

Posted by: Les | September 8, 2008 6:13 PM | Report abuse

Palin for president in 08, I cant wait till 2012., Just wish the media had more access to her., So we could figure out who she is.

Has anyone else read this story about a possible Affair Sarah Palin had? That is just one of the Scandals listed at this site. http://www.hotpres.com

This site has the inside scoop about the Palin Dui Secret, http://www.duihelpguide.com Why hasnt the news covered this?

This site has background info on sarah Palin Bio, Pics, Videos, Alot of Polls like how many people actually think that she is attractive? http://www.theveep.com

Despite all of this, and her lack of experiance she would probably make a much better president then McCain., Because like Obama she hasnt been corrupted by washington yet. We should probably reverse the ticket Palin/McCain.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 6:10 PM | Report abuse

Hurray! Hillary supporters voting for McCain-Palin!

3 out of 4 friends of mine - former Hillary supporters - have decided to vote for McCain-Palin! The 4th says she is not sure yet, she would rather stay home on election day than voting for "Obama bin Biden"!

If the Democrats think that ALL women in their party are "pro-choice" they must be smoking something funny!!

You have to be either a "far-left-wing-liberal" or an "extreme feminist" to vote for Obama Barack.

Also, not all women in the Democratic Party support gay-lesbian marriage! Therefore, with Palin on McCain's side - yes more women will be voting for McCain!
It is about time this country returns to some of our "basic" moral values!!

Thank you McCain-Palin!!!!!!!

Posted by: Natasha | September 8, 2008 6:09 PM | Report abuse

I hate to tell you Libs, but the cover on the left wing media is blown. no one beleives them anymore. you can post all the garbage you want that you find on Kos and Huff. even if one of those things is actually true, it will not emerge due to the noise you have created with the false ones.

there will be no more maccacca situations where the press picks our winner for us. the capitalists have discovered that profit and ratings sink like a stone and liberalism is too expensive to continue for long.

the rest of us knew this all along.

Posted by: kingofzouk | September 8, 2008 6:09 PM | Report abuse

Someone posted that Palin would die out as an obsession, that this pick doesn't have legs.

Not true. She's got legs. She knows how to use them. She never begs. She knows how to choose them.

Posted by: Eliminator Tour | September 8, 2008 6:08 PM | Report abuse


Look folks, give the die-hard Republicans their 15 minutes of joy. What they are really celebrating is that they found someone with a pulse under age 50 that the hard right base can accept and who can make them feel young and relevant again.

The similarly young Bobby Jindal on the merits of managing a hurricane crisis in Louisiana and demonstrating more executive experience than Palin by overseeing a state that actually experiences poverty, bringing intellectual abilities (as demonstrated by a Rhodes scholarship), and showing conservative cred through his staunch pro-life position as a Catholic would objectively make a better candidate. However, Bobby being non-white and having scary "elite" degrees would alienate the conservative base.

It's really saying something that these folks would rather vote for a white woman who refuses to take serious interviews from reporters and mouths attacks all day long without presenting any solutions or policies.

The notion of Palin 2012 ignores one critical point: Other far more qualified would-be Republican presidents are taking notes on all of Palin's shortcomings and will easily destroy her in any future primary...assuming that Republican voters have brain cells.


Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 6:06 PM | Report abuse

From:
Head of State
http://tinyurl.com/5mbefu

Sunday, September 07, 2008

"Actual Responsibilities": If You Can't Manage a Hockey Rink, Can You Manage Economic Policy and National Security?

From the Wall Street Journal:

Palin's Hockey Rink Leads
To Legal Trouble in Town She Led >
By MICHAEL M. PHILLIPS
September 6, 2008; Page A5

WASILLA, Alaska -- The biggest project that Sarah Palin undertook as mayor of this small town was an indoor sports complex, where locals played hockey, soccer, and basketball, especially during the long, dark Alaskan winters.

The only catch was that the city began building roads and installing utilities for the project before it had unchallenged title to the land. The misstep led to years of litigation and at least $1.3 million in extra costs for a small municipality with a small budget. What was to be Ms. Palin's legacy has turned into a financial mess that continues to plague Wasilla.

"It's too bad that the city of Wasilla didn't do their homework and secure the land before they began construction," said Kathy Wells, a longtime activist here. "She was not your ceremonial mayor; she was in charge of running the city. So it was her job to make sure things were done correctly."

Ms. Palin, now Alaska's governor and Republican Sen. John McCain's running mate, has pointed to her two terms as Wasilla's mayor, from 1996 to 2002, as evidence that she has enough executive experience to take on the presidency, should the need arise -- more than Democratic Sen. Barack Obama, who touts his own background as a community organizer in Chicago.

"I guess a small-town mayor is sort of like a community organizer, except that you have actual responsibilities," Ms. Palin said Wednesday in her acceptance speech at the Republican convention.

Litigation resulting from the dispute over Ms. Palin's sports-complex project is still in the courts, with the land's former owner seeking hundreds of thousands of additional dollars from the city.

Palin likes to say "Good judgment can make the difference between avoiding a crisis and managing a catastrophe."

Indeed.

Cite:
Head of State
http://tinyurl.com/5mbefu

Posted by: cara prado | September 8, 2008 6:04 PM | Report abuse

Palin's latest news: infidelity.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 6:04 PM | Report abuse

McCain and his cronies were counting on ignorance and allegiance to the party, and they got it. Don't get me wrong...both sides play this game, but McCain's people played this like virtuosos. Throw out some red meat and send in the attack dog. Mark those party lines so you can have something to hate. And even though senators and statesmen pretend they are not part of the "Elite", they are the people you claim to despise. McCain has said he will continue to keep rewarding that 1% with tax breaks. How's that working out folks? Have you seen the job loss reports?

Posted by: James | September 8, 2008 6:03 PM | Report abuse

Like I said, let us wait for The Debates (already knowing where they stand on the issues), to see how all four of these individuals think when the questions of the issues are presented before them.

Because McCain picked Palin, of all other male and female possible picks, it is very important to see how Palin holds weight. It's not because she's a woman, but simply her as a choice for this McCain period, out of everyone else (male AND female).

There's more than just looking for a woman in office. I look forward to Hillary running again, especially if the likes of pro-Bush-policies McCain/Palin keep being nominated. Hillary laid the case out on a variety of issues, but how about Palin? She arrived on the scene at the GOP convention, and she spent much much much time on her opponents, other than talking about herself; at least, she didn't spread enough light on issues, from her view, to convince me to trust her with my fellow people and certainly not my husband in the military! I'll be darned!

I don't want to hear points like they came straight from McCain and some of his campaigners who wrote her speech at the convention which she was introduce her own self officially to the public at that exciting event. I want to see her comfortably talking about the issues as if they were her own thoughts. It is crucial. Although she is McCain's choice, I want to see her as an individual still, dissecting and responding to the issues laid out for her.

I'm ready for the debates. I will be sharply paying attention to how both Obama and Biden respond, as individuals on the same ticket, versus McCain and Palin. I definitely want to know about why McCain (spoken as highly as people make him out to be) chose Palin, more than what was provided about her during the GOP convention. I want to know how she thinks.

Anyone else ready for debates? I sure am. Lets get the show on the road!!

Posted by: Obama2008 | September 8, 2008 6:03 PM | Report abuse

Quote: "Like, I don't know, lying to the public about her opposition to the Bridge". Posted by Adam.

Reply to Adam:

The fact that she supported the "Bridge" project at one point and changed her mind about it when she became Governor does not constitute a lie. The fact is that when she became Governor and she had the chance to review the pros and cons - being better informed - she used her judgement and dumped the project that would have cost zillions to the taxpayers. Btw, she did ran after all the corrupt politicians who apparently were misrepresenting the facts about the bridge. It is obvious to me that once she was Governor she was in a better position to get to all the facts regarding this "project". Let's not call this a lie - unless you are also willing to call all the Obama 'flip-flops LIES!!

Posted by: Natasha | September 8, 2008 6:03 PM | Report abuse

Palin is a factor because she represents the people with the least ability to make sound judgements about reality. I think it is reasonable to attack her positions on creationism and women’s reproductive rights, so people can understand that she and McCain are together on judge selection. That’s been handled. Now lets look at the Constitutional issues that McCain Bush and Palin Cheney are in agreement on, and defeat them and restore habeas corpus and end wiretap of uncharged citizens.
She could never win a real primary season because she would have to actually answer questions on a variety of topics, including why her husband has been categorized as a member of her government, in respect to emails and her intention to keep her emails a state secret.

Posted by: Bruce Becker | September 8, 2008 6:02 PM | Report abuse

McCain has temper control and anger management problems. Giving such an unstable man control of America's nuclear arsenal and nuclear launch codes is just too risky. Giving this kind of control to Palin is even riskier.

Posted by: anonymous | September 8, 2008 6:01 PM | Report abuse

mypitts - your problem is that you are on the defensive in PA. Who ever heard of Pa even being close? this spells doom for you. all those other battleground states like Va and Nc are a liberal dream. no chance. you will probably also lose NH, which may turn out to be the fatal blow early. funny huh?

Posted by: kingofzouk | September 8, 2008 5:58 PM | Report abuse

Quayle/Palin in 2012

Posted by: Marilyn | September 8, 2008 5:58 PM | Report abuse

Jared: The vice president should be ready to be president.

Posted by: mypitts2 | September 8, 2008 5:56 PM | Report abuse

bonjedi - before this VP pick I would have been willing to ceed CO, NM and perhaps NV but no more. those poll numbers are back to even and heading in Mac's direction. I think annie Oakley was a stroke of brilliance. All those fly-over bitter gun toting religious rubes are so stupid they will probably vote for her just because she hunts moose.

touche"

Posted by: kingofzouk | September 8, 2008 5:55 PM | Report abuse

kingofzouk: Obama's going to win PA. Republicans talk about picking that up every presidential election and fail. This year of the crappy economy is not the year to swing it.

Michigan is the only blue state that's a legit pickup opportunity, though still a long shot, as the election stands right now. Meanwhile, McCain will have to run the table in all the other nine or 10 battlegrounds -- all of which were red before.

Can Palin carry him all the way or is it a bridge (to nowhere) too far?

Posted by: mypitts2 | September 8, 2008 5:54 PM | Report abuse

It's time for Obama to play HARD and MEAN. He has no choice.

Throw EVERYTHING you have at McCain and Palin.

EVERYTHING.

Run as many negative ads as you can, constantly.


Bring up McCain's infidelity DAILY.

Make ALL your ads end with the tagline "He abandoned his sick wife for a mistress, and will do the same to this nation."


Do NOT roll over like John Kerry did.

If you, Obama, seriously think the American public (mostly ignorant people, 75% of whom have no college education) will actually vote based on real issues that affect their families, you are gravely mistaken.

The American public will vote on sizzle, NOT steak. They want flashy, shiny objects. Why do you think professional wrestling is so popular? Why do you think monster truck rallies sell out? Why do you think people flock to Wal-Mart to buy the latest trendy crap?


Obama, this American nation is made up of a majority of uneducated, ignorant people. It's not their fault. They lack motivation and will, because they are ignorant, vote themselves right out of a job.


GO AFTER THE VOTERS. ATTACK MCCAIN AND PALIN WITH ALL YOU'VE GOT. NOTHING IS OFF LIMITS.

SWIFTBOAT MCCAIN AND PALIN.

MCCAIN IS AN ADULTERER. USE THAT IN YOUR ADS.


The Republicans would.


Obama, you are fighting Karl Rove. You can THINK it's Steve Schmidt, but he's a lacky. He's not doing squat. It's all Karl Rove. He'll deny it, but Mccain's campaign has Rove's stench all over it. It's perfectly obvious to people who are educated.


Educated people need to give up the higher road on this campaign. Take the higher road where it matters: in office.


Right now it's war.

MCCAIN IS AN ADULTERER. Shout it from the rooftops. Put it in every ad.


Sling mud on McCain, push him down, and then step on his neck (politically, not literally). Kick him while he's down and don't let up.


Get MEAN, Obama. You're high road almost got you beat by Hillary. She took the high road too, and once she was losing (and thankfully when it was too late) she started getting mean and running negative ads. Then she started catching up and was on your very heels at the end. Had she gone nasty earlier she would have won.

NEGATIVE CAMPAIGNING WORKS.


You have to run with this:

1. McCain is a dirty old man and adulterer.

2. McCain might have alzheimers disease (use "might" so you don't get sued).

3. McCain is weak. He can barely walk, and Obama is a stud.

4. Palin is a traiter (use that word) because she married a seccesionist and greeted the AIP (Alaska Independence Party) instead of denouncing them. CALL HER A TRAITOR IN YOUR ADS.

5. MOCK THEM AT EVERY TURN.


People are beginning to think you're weak, Obama. HIT THEM HARDER.

Watch the film UNTOUCHABLES.

"If one of their guys puts you in the hospital, put him in the morgue."

---- Sean Connery.


Finally, round up the Hollywood stars like Brad Pitt, George Clooney, Tom Hanks, etc. and get them to do the ads.

And announce to the nation that Hillary Clinton will be your FIRST CHOICE for Supreme Court Justice.


Get up, Obama. Get up and FIGHT.

Posted by: Some guy | September 8, 2008 5:52 PM | Report abuse

I love watching all these liberal posters throw every insult they can think of at this accomplished woman. Obama and his leftist Kool-Aid drinking clan are running scared.

Sarah Palin is not ready to be President, but she's an outstanding candidate for Vice President. And with Palin bringing more experience to the #2 spot, than Obama has in the #1 spot, McCain-Palin is a winning ticket.

The U.S. may actually be able to avoid the catastrophe that Obama would bring by bloating the federal government and inserting its bureaucracy into every asset of people's lives. At least Bush's screw-ups are fixable, whereas Obama has plans that would degrade the very freedom we enjoy as Americans. So let's bring in the real reformers in McCain and Palin and dodge the Obama bullet.

Posted by: Jared | September 8, 2008 5:50 PM | Report abuse

Why wait? The GOP should run her this year. She's already the engine on the "McCain" ticket.

In fact, he should disappear for the next 50-some days and let her run solo.

Posted by: mypitts2 | September 8, 2008 5:50 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin:

Raised taxes as the Gov. of Alaska.

Wants to teach creationism in Science Class, subverting the US Constitution.

Tried to get books banned at the local library.

Fired her entire staff 10 days into term as mayor, for lack of loyalty.

Used every available lever to get an enemy fired from his job, and is still lying about it.

Put a gag order on her administration as mayor of a town of 6500.

Milked the Federal Government for huge series of earmarks, by using lobbyists. The highest per capita earmarker in the nation: Palin (27 Million for a town of 6500).

Doesn’t believe in global warming.

Used Alaska First as her campaign slogan, which is the same one as her husband’s old party, the AIP, a secessionist organization she recorded a supportive piece for this year!

Misled America about the Bridge to Nowhere, in her first national speech (she supported it and only killed it after the funding was cut).

Wants to ban stem cell research.

Is on the record stating the Iraq war ”is a task from God.”

In July when interviewed about the possibility of being the VP she stated that she did not know what the VP did.

Left her town Mayoralty with a huge debt, having outspent all around in her (21 MILION in debt).

And, perhaps worst of all, Palin would insist that my 14 daughter carry and birth a rapist’s child.

Does anyone else find it utteringly amazing, mind numbing and surreal that the republicans are running on a change platform borrowed from Obama to storm their own castle??!! Repub chant...."We suck, We Suck but NOW Were Different." This cranky guy can't even operate the Internet to read your opinion. But change is comming......ya right, like what more trickle down economics, fear mongoring, politicizing 9/11 and questioning patriotism? Privitizing anything and everything to line the pockets of your friends? Lying repeatedly to the American people, 3 TRILLION in debt and POOF! A new republican party!!!! transformed from the last eight years and catapulted into the future! Yippeee like Slim Pickens riding the bomb through the sky in Dr Strangelove. Hello Joe Mccarthy is that you? Mr. McCarthy would be proud. So would David Blaine. Abracadabra!!

These polls will shift dramitically after people actually know the real Palin. The truth will set you free.

Or maybe Americans are really the stupidest people in the world.


Posted by: Altec Lansing | September 8, 2008 5:50 PM | Report abuse

Rhetoric and hyperbole. Someone please just give me a concrete reason to vote for Obama. At least the neighbor was honest when she said, because he makes her feel good.
But everywhere else I look, rhetoric and hyperbole. Then I looked up S.2248, Obama’s Global Poverty Act bill, that transfers 0.7% of our GDP directly to the UN…

Posted by: munroej | September 8, 2008 5:49 PM | Report abuse

You're wrong on PA, probably right on FL. Obama is going to pick a few pockets in the west, though.

You may be right with OH. Ohians always f up the election, then spend the next four years moaning about how bad off they are after shooting themselves in the foot. Maybe what Obama needs to do to win Ohio is tell everyone he's going to tax them 100 percent then send all their jobs to Mexico.

Posted by: bondjedi | September 8, 2008 5:49 PM | Report abuse

PITBULL FOR PRESIDENT
the thought is almost nauseating.
Here's a woman good to make attacks, but who no one outside of this country would take seriously, who voted for that BRIDGE TO NOWHERE, before she was against it. She has the media eating out of her hand while trying to fire her ex brother in law and this is someone not of Washington? please!!!

Posted by: LES | September 8, 2008 5:46 PM | Report abuse

We knew that Sarah Palin had it in the bag way back when she worked in that shoe store, and we hooked her up with that guy from the burger stand. Remember when she stepped on that guy's hand? Classic!

Posted by: ZZ Top | September 8, 2008 5:46 PM | Report abuse

Actually bonjedi, this situation only magnifies the slow sinking feeling of Obama's numbers the entire summer long. and the gradual and steady rise of McCain. yes there are swings and fluctuations but the trend is clear.

the most important states - OH, PA, FL are all trending to Mac - even Pa. If you don't win Pa your liberal goose is cooked. the other two seem like a lock for Mac now. that means you need to flip a bunch of states to win and you are already on the defensive in too many.

I bet THE ONE is going to wish he had some of that foolishly spent money back soon enough. Just like hillary.

Posted by: kingofzouk | September 8, 2008 5:44 PM | Report abuse

The difference, 5:32, is that in addition to lacking any experience (Obama had 8 years of experience in elected state office representing more people than live in Alaska before become a U.S. Senator four years ago, but whatever), Sarah Palin is mindblowingly ignorant about every issue on the table. This is par for the course for the Republican "base," however, for whom elections are just referendums on who is the most regressive on social issues and for whom ignorance is a virtue. It is truly pathetic that a candidate for national office isn't ridiculed into oblivion for professing a belief in "creation science."

Posted by: anders b | September 8, 2008 5:43 PM | Report abuse

Chris--are you kidding? Have you lost your mind? A bright future? On what did you base that? The sarcasm or her answers to tough questions? Her campaign on the bridge to nowhere before she was against it, but after she took the money for it? Putting that plane on eBay but actually selling it at a loss? Where is the substance? You're a reporter--do your job. It's sickening the way the "liberal" media is falling all over themselves over Palin and giving her and McCain a free ride when all that ticket would do is continue the disastrous policies of Bush-Cheney.

Posted by: USneedsObama | September 8, 2008 5:43 PM | Report abuse

Thank you Senator McCain!

Sarah Palin is a breath of fresh air indeed! I am a woman and will vote for her not just because she is a woman but because I believe that she has the guts and the smarts to shake up some Washington "empty suits". And, there are plenty of them!

Go Saraaaaaah! And do not worry about the rhetoric that you are not ready to be "Commander in Chief".... Obama is running for that position and does not have any executive experience or your guts to cross partylines. He accuses Senator McCain for having voted 95% of the time with the Republicans but what Obama is not telling us is that he has voted 97% of the time with his buddies the Democrats.

Obama speaks of all these "miracles" that he will perform once elected but he has failed - for a year now - to tell us how he is going to pay for it! I do not know how on earth he will reduce taxes for 95% of Americans as he promises and pay for the rest of his "miracle change" without blowing up the national deficit to quadrillions!!! All his speeches (rhetoric) sure sound impressive however he is not telling us something that we have never heard before by every politician who runs for President! Have you not heard any candidate in the past not promising good schools, good roads, more money in your pocket, less crime on the streets? Hey, we have heard it before!

Do not be afraid of the Washington status quo Sarah Palin! They will attack you plenty but that is because they are worried that you will shake things up! Trust me, they are not really worried about what will happen to the country if you have to become Commander in Chief should something tragic happen... 90% of Washington politicians do not even know what the Truman Doctrine was - let alone being experts for example in Eastern European geopolitical issues! Is anybody trying to tell us that all previous Presidents had a degree in Political Science or Foreign Relations? Yeah sure...I am going to laugh!

We need a hands on "outsider" to shake up Washington. The National Security and safety of our country first requires a real "patriot" in office with great judgment, who will surround herself with an excellent team. Sarah Palin is a true patriot, she has demonstrated excellent judgment during her career, and she has the guts to bring real change!!!!!!

I am Natasha from NY and approve this message.

Posted by: Natasha | September 8, 2008 5:41 PM | Report abuse

talk about cult of personality... there isn't even enough information out there for people to form an accurate picture of her policies when it comes to national and international issues. i hope people wait it out a bit before they form an opinion of gov. palin...

Posted by: phi | September 8, 2008 5:41 PM | Report abuse

Why stop at president?
I'm so gosh-darned excited I think she should be ruler of the world. Why not? After all she's SARAH PALIN! Oh my, just writing her name makes me feel like a 15-year old girl the first time the Beatles came to America!!!

Sarah and Planet Earth: BFF!!! :)

Posted by: Bill | September 8, 2008 5:40 PM | Report abuse

Chris, thanks for clarifying that your column/blog is for reporting rather than analyzing. Because whatever support for Plain4Prez exists among the rank-and-file Republicans who had never heard of her two weeks ago, no serious analyst could possibly write about her as a leading contender for President without mentioning her many shortcomings. Like, I don't know, lying to the public about her opposition to the Bridge and status as the fighter of earmarks. Her prior attempts to ban banks from the town library (not even the school library!). The lack of evidence that she has ever given a serious thought to matters of foreign policy and national security. Her history of trying to intimidate and/or fire political or personal opponents. The list goes on. So keep telling us how excited the country is about this person; I wouldn't want you to strain yourself by thinking.

Posted by: Adam | September 8, 2008 5:40 PM | Report abuse

It looks like the browbeating of the media that Palin and the right-wing smear machine conducted is working. A glut of positive stories on the Republican "surge" and of Palin and McCain attacks on their opponents, but as usual very little substance or fact seeking from our defenders of the 1st amendment.

Posted by: steve | September 8, 2008 5:40 PM | Report abuse

don't you clueless Libs understand that this is the candidate of "I'm rubber, you're glue, whatever you say bounces off me and sticks to you".

go ahead call her inexperienced.
call her a pretty but empty suit
say she can only read speeches written by others
call her an ultra right winger

she's rubber, you're Obama

not to mention you are implying a comparison between our second string and your lead. weak and pitiful - the mantra of the Libs.

Posted by: back to the schoolyard | September 8, 2008 5:39 PM | Report abuse

"wow, Mac is up ten points already. that was fast. but perhaps Obama can at least still carry Illinois and avoid the history of liberal landslide defeats. I smell a carter or mondale scale humiliation coming. perhaps mcgovern."

In all seriousness, Zouk, the polling also portends McSame and Hot for Teacher grabbing all the cowpoke votes while Obama (again) picks off the states that mean something (i.e. have more than three electoral votes). Look at Chris' map - McLipstick's home state is still a toss-up.

Enjoy the bounce, though. McShame's numbers will be heading south again soon.

Posted by: bondjedi | September 8, 2008 5:39 PM | Report abuse

Americans are ignorant if they vote Palin into office.

Just ignorant.

She's a fascist and nothing less.


But, then, America was enthralled with Hitler before they became aware of his evil nature.


Posted by: Just a dude | September 8, 2008 5:38 PM | Report abuse

Chris,
You are going to cause some of the Obama faithful to stroke out writing stuff like this. They hated on Hillary and she was a loyal Democrat. Wait until they get a glance at the new Newsweek cover!

Posted by: fix fan | September 8, 2008 5:37 PM | Report abuse

Palin is FAR from being the 'best and brightest'.

Her only credentials are that she is a card carrying cuckoo religious bigot.

Posted by: Stephen | September 8, 2008 5:36 PM | Report abuse

Let's face reality, folks: electing the president of the United States is now no different from electing the president of your high school class. The Republicans understand this; the press reinforces it.

Posted by: reynaldo | September 8, 2008 5:35 PM | Report abuse

Whatever these folks are smoking I suggest they take fewer puffs. America has displayed stupidity in electing George W. twice or at least once for certain but we will certify our dumbness forever if we let the same puppet master Karl Rove and his buddy Steve Schmidt once again fool us. Foo me once shame on you fool me twice our country drowns in more economic blunders, war for no reason we cannot afford at ten billion a month etc. I will take the real Change champions Barack Obama and Joe Biden! Yes we Can! No Way No How No Mc Cain.

Posted by: Jonathan Piccolo | September 8, 2008 5:35 PM | Report abuse

Wait a minute.

This is a lady who had no clue earlier today what Fannie and Freddie were about, much less the significance of conservatorship.

This is the Presidency of the US, for Pete's sake. Not a made for TV version of A Robin Williams movie.

Posted by: poorrichard | September 8, 2008 5:32 PM | Report abuse

I love the democrats calling Sarah Palin a lightweight when their candidate is lighter-than-air Barack Obama.

Posted by: B | September 8, 2008 5:32 PM | Report abuse

You're joking, right? She has done absolutely nothing but recite a speech written by former Bush speechwriters. This sets up an "unstoppable groundswell" for her to be a presidential nominee four years from now?

according to the nomination of the leftist candidate, the answer must be YES.

Posted by: why them and not us | September 8, 2008 5:30 PM | Report abuse

You're joking, right? She has done absolutely nothing but recite a speech written by former Bush speechwriters. This sets up an "unstoppable groundswell" for her to be a presidential nominee four years from now? It is because of irresponsible "journalism" like this that the issues--on which the American people largely side with Obama given full information (free from McCain/Palin lies and distortions)--are being almost entirely obscured. Chris, you're directly aiding the McCain "this election is not about issues, it's about personalities" campaign; and you should be ashamed of yourself.

Posted by: shza | September 8, 2008 5:29 PM | Report abuse

She has given exactly one national speech and the MSM is spewing this stuff? How in the heck can the Republicans talk about negative coverage. Or...is the plan to work the refs really that effective?

Posted by: SteveIowa | September 8, 2008 5:27 PM | Report abuse

Well, she did go off the reservation today, deriding Obama for his 16 Month time line.

Perhaps someone ought to tell her that is no longer Barack's time line, it is more or less the official time line.

On the other hand, maybe she thinks she will have Dick Vader's office and title.

"President, I don't need to be President, He's senile and I am the eminence gruise."

And she has just under two more months to truly undercut McCain.

Posted by: ceflynline@msn.com | September 8, 2008 5:24 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin is an extremist. She is Pat Buchanan with lipstick.

Posted by: Cliff | September 8, 2008 5:24 PM | Report abuse

She has zero experience and zero ability thinking on her own, on her feet, about the major policy problems facing the nation. I haven't heard one proposal from her, much less something that demonstrates deep thought on the issues. She has a long way to go to prove that she is capable of being president.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 5:21 PM

and yet, even after all these months, much the same can be said for your lead candidate. hmmm.

Posted by: we have been suckered | September 8, 2008 5:24 PM | Report abuse

**Palin, of course, would prefer the more direct route to the presidency**

Yeah, like bumping McCain off two days after he's sworn in.

If I were McCain, I'd get a food taster. And if I were Cindy, I'd remember John's history when someone more "attactive" comes along.

Posted by: Mauimom | September 8, 2008 5:23 PM | Report abuse

Well, she did go off the reservation today, deriding Obama for his 16 Month time line.

Perhaps someone ought to tell her that is no longer Barack's time line, it is more or less the official time line.

On the other hand, maybe she thinks she will have Dick Vader's office and title.

"President, I don't need to be President, He's senile and I am the eminence gruise."

And she has just under two more months to truly undercut McCain.

Posted by: ceflynline@msn.com | September 8, 2008 5:22 PM | Report abuse

wow, Mac is up ten points already. that was fast. but perhaps Obama can at least still carry Illinois and avoid the history of liberal landslide defeats. I smell a carter or mondale scale humiliation coming. perhaps mcgovern.

Posted by: kingofzouk | September 8, 2008 5:22 PM | Report abuse

Mothers who vote for Sarah Palin vote against their own child's best interests.

That's assuming Sarah Palin's soldiers from Jesus Camp don't being about the end before those kids can grow up.

Posted by: TW | September 8, 2008 5:22 PM | Report abuse

Buzz, schmuzz. She is such a lightweight, I can't believe this is being mentioned seriously. We haven't seen her in a week because she's been holed up with the policy gurus. She will get a great education from them, no doubt. But give a woman a fish, she'll only eat for a day.

She has zero experience and zero ability thinking on her own, on her feet, about the major policy problems facing the nation. I haven't heard one proposal from her, much less something that demonstrates deep thought on the issues. She has a long way to go to prove that she is capable of being president.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 5:21 PM | Report abuse

Amen Chris Palin for Pres.!! 2008 whoo hooo!! Im sure once America gets to know her. We will see an even bigger bounce. McCain needs to stop, Thats lame to hide your VP candidate away from the Media. The Only Place you can find Info about Palin is on the Web, Here is some sites Ive been able to find.

Has anyone else read this story about a possible Affair Sarah Palin had? That is just one of the Scandals listed at this site. http://www.hotpres.com

This site has the inside scoop about the Palin Dui Secret, http://www.duihelpguide.com Why hasnt the news covered this?

This site has background info on sarah Palin Bio, Pics, Videos, Alot of Polls like how many people actually think that she is attractive? http://www.theveep.com

Despite all of this, and her lack of experiance she would probably make a much better president then McCain., Because like Obama she hasnt been corrupted by washington yet. We should probably reverse the ticket Palin/McCain.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 5:21 PM | Report abuse

One thing I can surely say, she has knocked the loony libs right off their game. I don't think they will get their footing back before it's too late.

Or, in our case, before the sweet smell of victory. you Libs have heard of victory haven't you? Remember it has nothing to do with the military and everything to do with your unmet political dreams.

Posted by: kingofzouk | September 8, 2008 5:19 PM | Report abuse

There some more shoes to drop on Palin. I remain unconvinced that she stays on the ticket...much less 2012.

Posted by: WOW | September 8, 2008 5:19 PM | Report abuse

These people are DELUSIONAL! Not only did she not write her speech on Wednesday, all she did was throw barbs at Obama. I mean, the whole 'community organizer' bit. Yeah, that's the hallmark of a future president!

I'm sure when Angela Merkel ran for chancellor, she talked about picking up her kids from school, I mean it must be a prerequisite for leaders of Western nations, right?

This has about as much merit as a Ron Paul candidacy, except after the Truth about Palin comes out, he'll seam positively Lincolnesque in comparison.
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Posted by: el_barto | September 8, 2008 5:17 PM | Report abuse

Right after delivering a speech someone else wrote? The only policy I heard from her is drill baby drill. This is pathetic.

Posted by: Bill J | September 8, 2008 5:14 PM | Report abuse

Palin would make a fine president after Sen. McCain is declared senile with Alzheimer's.

After all, she would love to take the middle class taxpayer dollars we worked so hard to create, to bail out her comrades in Big Oil and Big Auto after they go bankrupt, just like McCain/Bush did with Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac!

But how can she hold two positions - she wants Alaska to secede and become President of Alaska first ...

Posted by: Will in Seattle | September 8, 2008 5:14 PM | Report abuse

wow, I hit "post" upon completing my rant about apostrophes and got bounced to a giant McCain ad! anybody else get that? are McCain/Palin popups taking over the internet??

Posted by: pikaart | September 8, 2008 5:12 PM | Report abuse

hmm... "real potential to change the direction of the GOP back to it's conservative and somewhat libertarian roots"

Does the new GOP include as part of *ITS* politics the right the shove an apostrophe where *IT'S* not supposed to go?

Posted by: pikaart | September 8, 2008 5:10 PM | Report abuse

I am tired of this.
She is an ex-sports announcer.
Can't Republicans elect someone who has not been a radio or TV commentator ???

Jersey John

Posted by: Jersey John | September 8, 2008 5:06 PM | Report abuse

It's like people are completely blinded by a pretty face and refuse to acknowledge the fact that this woman is an extremist-- brought in to prop up the sagging candidacy of the Bob Dole of 2008! This is not a game, people. There is too much at stake to reward the incompetent GOP with four more years of power. I implore my fellow Americans to think before they vote.

Posted by: Soonerthought.blogspot.com | September 8, 2008 5:05 PM | Report abuse

And people think Bush is bad now?!?!

Posted by: suzannepdc | September 8, 2008 5:01 PM | Report abuse

I want Sarah Palin to be

QUEEN SARAH OF THE EARTHIANS!

GODDESS OF THE MILKYWAY GALAXY!

HAIL THE ALMIGHTY SARAH..

Posted by: :^P | September 8, 2008 4:56 PM | Report abuse

The truth is, the actual candidate that successfully target and murder mutual opponents wins the election in November with the help of mainstream media, period. Has nothing to do with issues or popularity polls. The reason is this opponent has exposed corruption within both parties. Will GOP use Guiliani with mob ties in his infamous practice of sweetheart deals? Where convicted felons get lesser penalty in exchange to do his dirty work? Will Dem use black urban-style gangs? Will these bad-guys conveniently distract the public of the real suspects/candidates and go undetected?

Does that mean as sharp critics too, we have to worry about our family’s safety? Cars tampered with? Bodies hurt or killed?? For example will my husband be targeted while jogging after work as he is watched 24/7 and habits well known??? Hmmm…..

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Rampant rumor says the truth of the matter is, with the help of mainstream media, the actual candidate that successfully target and murder mutual opponents wins the election in November, period. Has nothing to do with issues or popularity polls. The reason is this opponent has exposed corruption within both parties. Will GOP use Guiliani with mob ties in his infamous practice of sweetheart deals? Where convicted felons get lesser penalty in exchange to do his dirty work? Will Dem use black urban-style gangs? Will these culprit types conveniently distract the public of the real suspects/candidates and go undetected? Does that mean as sharp critics too, we have to worry about our family’s safety? Cars tampered with? Bodies hurt or killed?? For example will my husband be targeted while jogging after work as he is watched 24/7 and habits well known??? Hmmm…..

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 4:53 PM | Report abuse

Liberty? Sheeh...

Posted by: chrIS lArry | September 8, 2008 4:52 PM | Report abuse

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