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Grading the Palin Sitdown

The four-hundred part interview (it was only three parts, you say?) of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin with ABC's Charlie Gibson is -- finally -- over.

ABC, inexplicably, doesn't appear to be allowing intrepid bloggers like yours truly to embed the interview -- either in parts or in its entirety -- so we had to grab it from a little website known as You Tube.

The first part of the interview -- focused on Palin's views on foreign policy -- is below. Click through to watch all three parts.

While Palin has taken considerable flack over her dancing around (or not) the question of whether she agreed with the so-called "Bush Doctrine" and her seemingly evasive answer on entitlement reform, the newly minted Republican vice presidential nominee appears to have survived the her first major television interview relatively unscathed in the eyes of average voters.

What grade -- from "A" to "F" -- would you give Palin for her performance during the three interviews? And, more importantly, why?

By Chris Cillizza  |  September 13, 2008; 5:30 PM ET
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I am supporting Barack, but I give Sarah Palin a B. She appeared to be confident, intelligent and she has principles that she sticks to. Also, she has understandin and not trying to impose her views on me. I respect her as a woman and proud of her, I just don't agree with her politics.

Posted by: butterfly2 | September 16, 2008 5:29 PM | Report abuse

Lies deception and sexist card......... In presidential race without regard....To the truth for a people and country as a whole......Hence, The McCain Campaign as the story unfolds "Vote Obama/Biden"

Posted by: ingramris | September 16, 2008 1:01 PM | Report abuse

I still have some notes to write

Posted by: Shawn | September 16, 2008 9:39 AM | Report abuse

I agree & disagree, it's a fine balance

Posted by: Sean | September 16, 2008 9:37 AM | Report abuse

Many girls are now reaching puberty in early elementary school. They can become pregnant. A ten-year old girl in Chicago was reportedly on her second pregnancy. Will someone ask both president and VP candidates: 1. Must a pregnant ten-year old girl carry the pregnancy to term? 2. If the girl is pregnant due to rape, abuse and incest, must she carry the pregnancy to term? 3. If it is determined that a female of any age will die if the pregnancy continues, does that female have a right to life?
Yours, Jerry Hurley, Redding, California

Posted by: Jerry Hurley | September 16, 2008 12:05 AM | Report abuse

Give that lady an A! The Dems would just
ADORE her if she was a LIB and they're full of wour grapes. Did you know she was a member of the National Honor Society? Biased Media won't tell you that!

Posted by: Last Laugh | September 15, 2008 11:31 PM | Report abuse

this lady is waaaaaay to right for most of America, unless she compromises her beliefs for this election like McCain has- and in that case she will have to explain her flip flopping-she will in due time expose herself in her true form. Our economy is in shambles and needs rescued, the war in Iraq has run its course to nowhere and we will not be able to fight another one out of want again..not in Russia, N.Korea, Iran, etc..

Posted by: joshtheVET | September 15, 2008 7:41 PM | Report abuse

Deer in the Headlights? Come on now!

I thought she appeared to be quite confident. She was far from perfect but she did answer the questions and more. Most of you are unable to understand or comprehend. That lead me to believe you are just obamaized anyway. FYI she will be able to handle everything thrown at her. In the end she will far outshine Obama's knowledge and lack of accomplishments. Let me see what has he ever accomplished? Any legislation with his name on it? Hollow Shell!!!!!!!

Posted by: hoogesl | September 15, 2008 7:03 PM | Report abuse


No gaffes or "gotcha questions." She wasn't excellent or horrible, I'd say she was "good."

Posted by: You've got a pal in Palin | September 15, 2008 6:35 PM | Report abuse in 'deer in headlights'! She appeared rigid and frightened (you say that anyone would be in their first global interview). Yes, but I won't be a heart-beat away from the Presidency. Fear and uncertainty are the equal to blood in the water. She won't survive nor should anyone truly expect her to survive. This is deep water and no life boat will be able to save her.

Posted by: jtw | September 15, 2008 6:25 PM | Report abuse

Palin deserves an "F," as in "F-in' frightening". The response that she is prepared to engage in foreign policy because "you can actually see Russia from an Alaskan island" is absolutely insulting to the American public. It makes as much sense as my saying I'm prepared to solve the financial crisis because I can see the US Bank building in downtown Los Angeles from my kitchen window. Contrary to what Bay Buchanan and the other social conservative right apologists would have us believe, average Americans do not want someone we can relate to in our highest offices. We want -- and need -- men and women who are intellectually capable of and engaged to deliver solutions. It's time for Americans to stop unthinkingly crossing the bridge to nowhere like lemmings to our demise.

Posted by: Don | September 15, 2008 5:39 PM | Report abuse

Seeing that poor performance and the fact that it didn't help her, I expect that they will proceed to put her back in her plexiglass cage.

Posted by: Billy Pilgrim | September 15, 2008 5:31 PM | Report abuse

She sure didn't sound like someone who is ready for the presidency. That's what we are talking about here. I'd give her a D-.

Posted by: Billy Pilgrim | September 15, 2008 5:11 PM | Report abuse

Who in the world would think Sarah Palin came out unscathed? She was shown to be totally unprepared, not to say clueless, except for her programmed answers which she repeated because she had no further explanation or knowledge. Have we not had enough of the elevation of mediocrity? We face too many problems for a third rate mind to solve.

Posted by: AustinJulie | September 15, 2008 4:59 PM | Report abuse

The "average voter" has SOME notion of the Bush Doctrine and has DEFINITELY heard of preemptive war. There may be slightly different versions of the Bush Doctrine, but the fact that Palin could not come up with EVEN one says A LOT about her national security knowledge, or lack thereof.

Plus, your "average voter" can figure out that a politician doesn't know sh*t when he or she lists seeing Russia from land as foreign policy credentials.

Don't sell the "average voter" short, Cillizza.

They are better than that.

Posted by: AM | September 15, 2008 4:49 PM | Report abuse

I cannot believe that people are still flocking to see and listen to Palin speak after her dismal attempt at intelligence during her interview with Charlie Gibson. It is scary that these people will actually go to the polls this November and vote. They must be deaf and blind not to see how inept she is to be just a breath away from the presidency. Why was she not vetted properly? It was like watching Miss America giving answers to world and national problems, some of whom I might add are much brighter than Palin.
Just who is running for president, McCain or Palin? Since she is the one drawing these huge crowds I am left to believe that they would rather have Palin, is this because McCain doesn't have the "right stuff"? I give Palin a grade of a double F

Posted by: dumbfounded | September 15, 2008 4:18 PM | Report abuse

The bar has been set so low for this candidate (Sarah Palin) as it has been for GW Bush and all his cronies over the last 8 years that it is hard to objectively present just how poorly she really did.

The dumbing down of America proceeds further and further into the abyss everyday.

Huge segments of America scorn, ridicule and disparage a well educated,
articulate black man who has put forth srong change and recovery policies in support of middle america. In turn these same Americans relish in the minimal trappings and statements of the mediocre good old boy candidate and his even more mediocre beauty queen running mate.

This tells the rest of America and the world where so much of America still stands and why. Many in this country would rather sink lower and lower than recognize the capabilities of someone other than one who looks like them.

As long as this is so, America will continue to be mired in its current decline. We are headed to 4 more years of America in decline and at risk.

Remember McCain cannot dismiss himself from accountability for the Repugnant mess unless enough Americans let him do so (at least enough to outnumber those who won't). He cannot take on the mantle of change unless enough Americans let him do so (at least enough to outnumber those who won't).

Posted by: Vgirl1 | September 15, 2008 4:14 PM | Report abuse

By the way, Gov. Palin did NOT say she could see Russia from her front porch, that was Tina Fey in the SNL skit. Obviously some people cannot tell the difference. What Gov Palin said was 'Russia is our neighbor, you can see Russia from some of our islands (gee remember the Bering Strait anyone), we have to be able to get along' (paraphrased).
So it appears that while some people jumped to conclusions and looked no further, others took the time to read the WHOLE transcript as posted around the net.
As to the so-called 'Bush Doctrine' question, there is no conclusive Doctrine. It has changed/evolved over time and there are several versions depending on circumstances, so actually the question was ill concieved.
Considering that this was her frst national interview and the predisposed attitude of the media to do a 'gotcha', I think she did quite well. I would rate her debut as a B+.

Posted by: KarenAnn | September 15, 2008 3:35 PM | Report abuse

Perhaps if ABC had played the entire interview not the edited version Gov Palin would be viewed in a better light. I find it highly amusing that the questions Mr Gibson presented to Gov Palin were MUCH more substantive than those he posed to Sen Obama during his interview. To Obama it was more like, 'what kind of ice cream do you like?', to Palin it was like 'how will you solve world hunger?' Amazingly, Sen Obama had not met any world leaders until his visit to the Mideast and Europe this summer, except, perhaps, for meeting some African leaders during a conference he attended to discuss problems on that continent. As Sen Biden said, the Presidency is NOT a position for on the job training, however, the Vice Presidency is for the most part. Most of the commentors here are very obviously predisposed to Obama and not open minded enough to look beyond the rehetoric.

Posted by: KarenAnn | September 15, 2008 3:23 PM | Report abuse

The plus is because she can see Russia from her front porch..Duh

Posted by: alice | September 15, 2008 2:50 PM | Report abuse

Wasn't this important too?
Ted Land (907) 762-9269 of KTUU TV an NBC affiliate in Alaska who did the news story of a hugh rally in Alaska against Sarah Palin. I told him that I was amazed that none of the networks carried or asked for any of the footage. He said that he was just as amazed as I was especially when NBC did not request any footage. He also said that CNN was there. I told him the only story that I heard concerning a protest on CNN was about Oprah. What's going on here folks? I found out about the story at KTTU.COM There are a lot of people especially women, democrats and republicans unlike who disagreeD with Palin and thinks she's dangerous for the country. The protest started with 8 to 10 women sitting around realizing that Palin doesn't represent them. A nasty radio host broadcast their names over the airways and others tried to stop the rally. It was big news in Alaska and you can see the story on KTTU.COM website. This goes to show you that Rick Davis has far reaching arms. Palin will be hidden from the legit media as well as any negative press. Alaska is a small community so there will be some backlash but still these people weren't afraid to speak out. What happen to our press coverage here about the protest IN ALASKA. CALL TED AND ASK HIM ABOUT THE STORY

Posted by: WHY WASN'T THIS STORY COVERED? | September 15, 2008 2:28 PM | Report abuse

C minus. Which is very scary for what it says about the real "decider" in the mess, John McCain. Is she really the second most qualified person in the GOP to be President? Is she the most qualified woman in the GOP? If the answer is yes, than the GOP has no right to govern the nation.

Posted by: iramoss | September 15, 2008 2:01 PM | Report abuse

I watched this belatedly and it was worse than I thought. She is so obviously out of her comfort zone it filled me with dread. I didn't even find her charming which is supposedly her appeal. She was the wrong woman, there are plenty of established, experienced and knowledgeable female Republications out there- this was a gamble that McCain will have to swallow and regret.

Posted by: ydyear | September 15, 2008 2:01 PM | Report abuse

Even I have to admit that it was less than stellar. But as long as John McCain talks it up the general population will not have the chance to analyze the truth.

Posted by: Brian Rogers | September 15, 2008 1:49 PM | Report abuse

Marianne says "How often is Cheney in the news?" by way of saying, he's vice president and doesn't count. Apparently Marianne does not read the news too much. Marianne, Cheney IS in the news a lot, primarily for things he controls behind the scenes. Some people even think he runs things. But that's irrelevant in a way, because the question is not whether Palin is qualified to be vice president, it's whether she's qualified to be president.

I like how you put the worst spin on Obama's experience (days the senate was actually in session) and the best on Palin's. How many days was she actually working as governor? She was charging for working from home a lot of days as I recall.

Posted by: dnfree | September 15, 2008 1:31 PM | Report abuse

Grade: F for PALIN
Grade: F for America if we allow this person who is so obviously unqualified to serve in the capacity for which she seeks to become elected.

As Charlie Gibson correctly assessed, we live in a complex and "dangerous world". It is our responsibility as American citizens to vet this woman since McCain and his campaign did not. We are responsible for the reality we will create in this country and around the world in electing McCain/Palin to office.

This is no time for us to shrink from our most serious responsibility to vote for persons who have some hope of offering good, sound judgment on a variety of grave issues both here at home and all around the world.

I implore our media to be vigilant, not to shirk from your right and your responsibility to investigate BOTH this woman AND the cynical, cheap political strategy of the Republican campaign that her choice represents.

There simply are not words for me to express my personal sense of outraged offense that the Republican campaign would parade a woman so obviously unqualified for this position in front of me, declaring her to be the best choice possible for his running mate and for leadership in our country, in the catastrophic event that something should happen to McCain. And then these people call unpatriotic any person who seeks to understand who this woman is and to call her on her own misrepresentation of the facts -- REALLY????? ARE YOU KIDDING ME???? I say Thanks but NO THANKS to you, Davis, Rove et al for this "candidate to nowhere", for giving us a clever performer in a skirt and lipstick and calling her the most qualified person to offer international leadership a heartbeat away from the presidency of the United States!!!! If she is qualified to be vice president of the United State of America, what are these people actually saying about what it means to be leaders of the free world?

I am just appalled, sickened, and more discouraged about the future of the American dream than I ever thought I could become as I contemplate the very real possibility that this team might win this election. Mr. McCain and his advisers have made a mockery of the presidency of our amazing country through this choice of a running mate as well as through the slimy, mud-slinging campaign he is running.

Are we really this stupid? Are we really this short-sighted? Are we really so shallow as a people that we cannot see this for what it is -- a desperate attempt to win the presidency of the United States at any cost?

I say, GO Washington Post. I say GO New York Times. I say GO EVERYONE IN THE MEDIA!!!!I Create a blizzard of TRUTH in regard to this woman's unpreparedness to lead and the supremely poor judgment of the person who chose her to run.

Do not stop. Do not tremble. Do NOT buckle to the overt accusation that your persistent, troubling questions constitute some sort of lack of patriotism on your part, or even worse, a lack of "deference or respect" on your part for a person who in reality is the one who must now show HERSELF prepared to lead this great country. Come ON! Who is running for office, after all? Whose job is it to show the American people that she is capable of leading? I say it is squarely HERS and squarely JOHN MCCAIN'S.

And whose job is it to figure out whether the evidence offered is adequate? That's OUR job. And it's a big job. It's the patriotic duty of a free press, and it is the collective patriotic duty of a society that cares enough about its future and the future of this world to say, "If you want to lead us, you need to show us that you are ready to lead."

To reiterate because the point cannot be made forcefully enough: The burden of proof here rests squarely on McCain, Palin and their advisors.

It should concern us gravely as Americans that these people have squandered every opportunity so far to provide (in an attitude of respect and even deference for the American people and, indeed, all people on the earth) substantive evidence to support their claim that Sarah Palin is the best qualified person to be elected Vice President of the United States of America. Trotting out a puppet in a skirt and lipstick demeans us all -- men AND women. And it is an overt insult to the many increbily talented and well-prepared Republican women who could (and perhaps should) be on this ticket. Sarah Palin is no model for women who seek to be leaders of the free world, and if I weren't so overwhelmed by her completely arrogant ignorance, I would feel sorry for her. Whether she is elected or not, she has made a fool of herself, and if we elect her, she will make fools of us all in addition to making foolish everything in America so many men and women have sacrificed their very lives for in the last 250 years!

Shame on McCain, Davis, and Rove. And shame on us if we allow this team to win the election.

Posted by: Linda Emmerson | September 15, 2008 1:14 PM | Report abuse


The NATIONAL ENQUIRER’S exclusive ongoing investigation of GOP VP Nom Sarah 'Barracuda' Palin’s goes far beyond a mere teen pregnancy crisis this week!

The Enquirer’s team of reporters has combed the Alaskan wilderness to discover the hidden truth about Gov. Palin’s family, which has become a central part of her political identity.

The ENQUIRER has learned exclusively that Sarah's oldest son, Track, was addicted to the power drug OxyContin for nearly the past two years, snorting it, eating it, smoking it and even injecting it. And as Track, 19, heads to Iraq as part of the U.S. armed forces, Sarah and her husband Todd were powerless to stop his wild antics, detailed in the new issue of The ENQUIRER, which goes on sale today.

THE ENQUIRER also has exclusive details about Track's use of other drugs, including cocaine, and his involvement in a notorious local vandalism incident.

“I’ve partied with him (Track) for years,” a source disclosed. “I’ve seen him snort cocaine, snort and smoke OxyContin, drink booze and smoke weed.”

The source also divulged the girls would do anything for Track and he’d use his local celebrity status to manipulate other guys “to get them to steal things he wanted.”

“He finally did what a lot of troubled kids here do,” the source divulged. “You join the military.”

And as Gov. Palin has billed the state of Alaska for various expenses related to her children, as reported by The Washington Post, The ENQUIRER's investigation reveals that she was so incensed by 17-year-old Bristol's pregnancy that she banished her daughter from the house.

Another family friend revealed pre-prego Bristol was as much of a hard partier as Track was.

“Bristol was a huge stoner and drinker. I’ve seen her smoke pot and get drunk and make out with so many guys. All the guys would brag that the just made out with Bristol.”

When Sarah found out the teen was pregnant by high schooler Levi Johnston, she was actually banished from the house. As part of the cover-up, Palin quickly transferred Bristol to another high school and made her move in with Sarah’s sister Heather 25 miles away!

And the ENQUIRER also learned that Levi Johnston, the baby mamma’s future wedded dada, who was glad handed by John McCain at the GOP Convention, isn’t too happy about his impending shotgun nups either.

“Levi got dragged out of the house to go to Minnesota,” Levi’s friend told The ENQUIRER. “Levi realizes he’s stuck being with Bristol because her mom is running for Vice President.”

The friend also confided that both Bristol and Levi “broke up a few times and they definitely messed around with other people.”

Meanwhile, as members of the Palin family’s war viciously over “Trooper-Gate” and claims of Sarah’s extramarital affair have turned the political race into a chaotic arena of threats, denials and vicious attacks by political black ops, The ENQUIRER has discovered shocking new details about the red-hot affair scandal!

For the full story of the secrets Sarah Palin is trying to hide – pick up the new ENQUIRER!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 15, 2008 12:46 PM | Report abuse

I'm one of those Independent voters everyone is after. I watched the interview on TV. The reality is, it was a job interview. She is interviewing for the job of Vice President. If I was the person with the final decision making authority for the hiring, Ms. Palin would be receiving one of those nice letters in the mail that states "Thank you for taking the time to interview but we are seeking someone with a stronger background and more experience".

Personally --- this woman is an IDIOT. I find it amusing that she pushes abstinence education when she AND her daughter BOTH conceived children out of wedlock. You can tell from the birth of her first child that the moment she found out she was pregnant she RACED to the JP hoping to be able to say it was a honeymoon baby but she was a month short.

I live in a city with a larger population a budget than the entire state of Alaska but I don't see anyone racing to put my mayor on a national ticket. She is incompetent, inept, two-faced, manipulative, deceitful and would sell anyone out to get what she wants. How could ANYONE trust this woman to be anywhere CLOSE to the White House?

Posted by: GT | September 15, 2008 12:39 PM | Report abuse

Before grading this interview, one should make an effort to see the ABC UNEDITED TRANSCRIPT OF THE GIBSON/PALIN INTERVIEW PT. 1. What we saw on television was a major hatchet job perpetrated by ABC which is unfair to Sarah Palin, like her or not.


Grade A. ABC cheated.

Posted by: Denise, Member, PumaPac | September 15, 2008 12:37 PM | Report abuse

...I thought that peeeuuu Palin and the interview with Charles Gibson of ABC News was great.

...great for the people of this nation to see just how pathetic a character peeeuuu Palin really is ....

Now we really can't wait for the VP Debate...I predict the more will watch that than the DNC/RNC conventions combined...

Just to see peeeuuu Palin the "deer" hunter in the headlights of an on coming 16 wheeler.....and be obliterated....

Cant Wait..

Palin:..You know Charlie...Alasaka is right next to Russia..."


Posted by: AlexP1 | September 15, 2008 12:31 PM | Report abuse

Palin gets the following grades:

D = deceptive and dangerous
F = failure at basic facts
S = smug, slick, and supercilious
H = hubris and high-handedness

Posted by: dee | September 15, 2008 12:23 PM | Report abuse

In what respect, Charlie?

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Posted by: Anonymous | September 15, 2008 11:56 AM | Report abuse

Grade "B" -- unfortunately for her, America needs an A+ president, and she isn't it.

Posted by: egc52556 | September 15, 2008 11:12 AM | Report abuse

A grade? Although I am retired, I remember very well my former college students, especially when they were trying to answer my questions. Over the years, a teacher develops an extra sense in recognizing BS when one faces it.
Palin's answers and demeanor remind me of the worst moments of my class encounters; they are pure BS (and I don't mean Bachelor of Science).
I don't wish to evade the matter of the grade; I'll play alone for Chris' sake.
Since I was known for my empathy, I would give her an "I" for "Incomplete". Even an "F" would put her on the level of those who know something but not enough to pass.
Her mind is incomplete!

Posted by: JoeG. | September 15, 2008 11:07 AM | Report abuse

Palin would have been told, "thanks but no thanks" with our best wishes for a new career in another field. I wish that the media, and then the voters, would be this astute. There is something to be said for intellectual "elitism" after all.

Posted by: Mary T | September 15, 2008 10:15 AM

Mary T, you rock! I hope that the above scenario will play out metaphorically on election day! US voters to Palin: "Thanks but no thanks."

Posted by: Tori | September 15, 2008 11:06 AM | Report abuse

I think she did well and feel that Gibson was too harsh and acted more like a professor giving a quiz. Remember she is not the one running for President and she will be behind McCain's shadow - how often is Cheney in the news? Does anyone remember who was Clinton's VP? It is Obama's lack of experience and his unpreparedness that people should be concerned with, after all he #1 on the Dem ticket. Or is it that being a community organizer and serving 143 days in the Senate (actual days the Senate was in session) enough to lead this great nation??? I don't think so.

Posted by: Marianne | September 15, 2008 11:04 AM | Report abuse

There are so many comments I agree with here. Sarah Palin may be a "nice" person, although her track record in being vindictive at both the mayoral and gubernatorial levels seems to belie that. The larger issue is that she doesn't even have a passing understanding of the depth of international and domestic economic issues that is vital to anyone's ascending to the vice-presidency. That isn't sexist, it's reality. I'm a liberal-leaning independent, but I recognize that there are many very able female Republicans that John McCain could have selected who would have had the depth of understanding of these issues that would have made them excellent running mate choices. Sarah Palin is very painfully obviously not one of those.

Posted by: DickNH | September 15, 2008 10:45 AM | Report abuse

Which interview to grade? The one ABC aired on TV, or the whole interview, seen on YouTube and

The editing of the TV interview was pathetic and downright biased. If I had to give Gov. Palin a grade based on that alone, I'd have to give her a "C".

But.....once I looked at the WHOLE interview, unedited for content, I'd boost her up to a B+.

Gov. Palin is much more interesting to listen to, with straight answers, no fumbling, no uh-ing and uhm-ing, like Obama. I know the left like to say that he is being more "reflective" when he talks like that, but we all know that he's trying his best to give a non-response while sounding "nuanced"....

Obama is more painful to listen to than even Pres. Bush....

And Mr. Cilizza, you could have mentioned the fact that Sen. Obama, when interviewed by Charles Gibson, had a completely soft-ball-like interview, with lots of questions about "how he feels", and nothing in the terms of issues and positions.

Posted by: Julie | September 15, 2008 10:19 AM | Report abuse

I thought Tina Fey on SNL did a better job. Now, if McCain could get Paris Hilton to be his energy tsar I might vote for him.

Posted by: LNDenver | September 15, 2008 10:18 AM | Report abuse

i am a "high information" voter - a university professor who reads everything i can put my hands on about the issues and candidates. i considered palin's interview to be akin to a doctoral candidate's preliminary oral exam, when the student should show a command of the issues but not expertise. palin would have failed. i have seen her behavior - a lack of knowledge buried under a thin veneer of charisma and narcissism - in students who believed they could "game the system". Fortunately for our science mission at the university, the goal of a doctoral committee is to cull out those who make no substantive contribution. Palin would have been told, "thanks but no thanks" with our best wishes for a new career in another field. I wish that the media, and then the voters, would be this astute. There is something to be said for intellectual "elitism" after all.

Posted by: Mary T | September 15, 2008 10:15 AM | Report abuse

Palin: D-

Unprepared, and dangerously megalomaniacal about her abilities. Terrifying to see that 50% of the country is stubborn, stupid, or blind enough to think that this person should be anywhere close to the White House.

Republicans: it's ok to admit that your party is going bad. That's the first step to fixing its many problems. Didn't your party use to stand for things OTHER than social issues? Like fiscal responsibility, excellence in governance, and adept handling of markets? Because it doesn't any more.

I was originally a republican because I am educated and like when my money is spent wisely; because I don't like being told how to live (keep your big government out of my lifestyle!); and because I like educated and competent people in charge.

I'm now a democrat for EXACTLY the same reasons. The people who are currently republicans deserve pity, I suppose, for not realizing that they don't have to stick with a losing team and sell out all their personal values just because they, at one time, liked republicans. I'll bet they secretly don't anymore (either that, or they just really don't care about competence or small government).

Obama/Biden '08

Posted by: Tori | September 15, 2008 10:14 AM | Report abuse

Clearly she gets a D on my scorecard, she is definitely not PREPARED to sit in the highest office in this land. You never know what McSame's health issues may be in the future. It speaks very candidly of McSame's judgement in choosing this clueless woman. There were so many other intelligent and informed women he could have chosen. It also goes to show how ingenuous these republicans are who are falsely stating what a great choice Palin is. They absolutely know in their hearts (you can see it in their faces) what a terrible choice Palin is and WHY McSame chose her...purely politically motivated!

It's a pathetic shame to think that Palin could be President if McCain is elected by the Americal Idol crowd!

Posted by: mercybell | September 15, 2008 10:09 AM | Report abuse

Palin - A

ABC & Gibson - F

Posted by: Anonymous | September 15, 2008 6:24 AM | Report abuse

I'd give her a C-, and that is being generous---allowing for fact that she is new. She actually didn't sound as ill-informed as expected, but she is clearly nowhere near as conversant on the wide range of national issues as the other three members of the two tickets. Though since McCain has admitted to being clueless on the economy and his lame economic policy proposals certainly reflect cluelessness, Palin may actually know more about the economy than McCain, though that's not saying much.

Really surprised that Gibson didn't press her on economic issues---the economy is THE issue of the campaign. She never really was forced to display depth of knowledge on the subject in the interview. Gibson merely proved he's something of a lightweight but not forcing her to enunciate in detail her understanding of economic policies and issues. Disappointing performance by the interviewer.

Posted by: OHIO CITIZEN | September 15, 2008 5:12 AM | Report abuse

I completely admire her candor, she has a knack for delivery.Her voice, even though she tries to hide that northern exposure twang,is clear and understandable, she never mumbled through an answer, or ummed and uhhed.
Besides all that, the content was pretty weak, she was lost when asked about the doctrine(so was most of the country) and it was a smiley, cozy little Sara interview.The substance was lame, questions lacking, and answers evasive.

Barely a C,only for the great delivery.But dont be fooled by the show.
Her "Cuteness" factor, cheesie at best , will wear thin, and the "Hockey Mom" is right there.I really wonder who is fooled by the whole hockey mom thing anyway.Its basically a call out to all the Suburbanites who can afford the whole Hockey genre.Even at a junior level your talkin about a couple hundred dollars of equipment, and rink fees, and all the travel if their in a serious league.So, if there really is an ELITEist running in this presidential race, we just got to know her a little better.
Other known hobbie: Guns, the one they showed her shooting indoors was at minimum a 1500 dollar AR style rifle.And most gunners i know, even extremely moderate ones, have multiple guns.Shooting, hunting, all associated fees and licenses (oh wait, native Husband, Married wife and native born children get a free pass on hunting licenses)
Snowmotoring,as they call it (snow mobile everywhere else) not cheap on machines, or up keep, plus competetive racing = even more money.And how do the children fare in life while moms off governing or hunting, dads off racing or fishing.I dont get it.i work a simple 40 to 48 hour week and barely have time to play like that with 4 kids in the house.
I dont get the whole qualification ideals, then again, she is as qualified as BUSH was, possibly even more so.HMMMM, is it a GOP strategy, put the least educated, or experienced up against more educated and experienced???????? SCARY

Posted by: Lately | September 15, 2008 4:48 AM | Report abuse

Wow. There are an awful lot of conservatives whistling past delusional graveyards; two weeks ago polls didn't count -- but now all this cultish, nervous exhuberance. Sort of like two weeks ago McCain was an experienced candidate but now he's a change-addicted maverick (oh, so what if he can't differentiate himself FACTUALLY from the 90% support over the last 8 years for the country-crippling Chimp/DICK agenda!) America can't afford a flip-flopping, faux-apostatic, Republik-Party-cog-minted-in-corruption (Keating 5? Paging Keating 5!) president with an astonishingly unqualified, cynically-pandered vice presidential choice. IT'S THE ECONOMY, STUPID! And McCain has no distinguishable difference -- well, outside of being a maverick and chasing the lobbyists (who run his campaign, who have infested the fabric of his presidential image...) out of D.C. Obama's tax cuts are factually analyzed as favorably out-performing McCain's by pretty much every fact-checking organization one can name: bottom line, if you make more than $200,000 you will not receive the same preferential treatment that has been extended to you under the Chimp/DICK treasury theft. More than 85% of Americans will receive SUBSTANTIALLY more in tax rebates under President Obama. Meltdown Monday is upon us -- the Republik Party has -- in 7 1/2 short years -- turned a robust federal surplus into a crushingly strapping deficit of roughly HALF OF ONE TRILLION DOLLARS. Spin it any way you want, Fundy/conservative/jingoistic/paternalistic myrmidons and cultish devotees of Republik Party identification -- the bottom line is that IT IS A FACT AND IT HAPPENED UNDER THE MOST MISERABLY FAILED PRESIDENCY IN HISTORY. McCain? Hide those wallets.

Posted by: Tertium Quid | September 15, 2008 2:38 AM | Report abuse

I give her a D for the DUMB effort. Honestly she seemed lost without the teleprompter. By the way I've been looking for that famous quote from Lincoln and I cannot find it. If anyone knows a link I would surely appreciate it thanks!

Posted by: gimmeabreak | September 15, 2008 2:26 AM | Report abuse

given her great command of geography and foreign policy,in addition to her "down home" perkiness, perhaps mrs. palin would be better served to pursue the journalistic career that she so long ago abandoned.

Posted by: jazzgrrrl25 | September 15, 2008 2:03 AM | Report abuse

this isn't a bloody high school exam...grade her?


this woman is utterly, completely, categorically out of her league...if anyone should be getting an "f", it should be the american public for tolerating such a reckless decision on the part of john mccain.

that we would give serious consideration, give her any credit, and not laugh our proverbial asses off, is both appalling and pathetic.

she has no intellectual curiosity, no foreign policy knowledge, no foreign experience, period...she is ignorant on a range of issues, from what a vp's duties are to foreign cultures and ideologies, to the premise of the iraq war...she lacks the ability to offer specifics on any policies, economic and otherwise.

she has shown herself to be a liar on several fronts and, apparently, with no sense of shame...she delights in her small town image and this is most apparent in her small-minded, myopic approach to what is a very big political picture.

if mccain wins this gig, we deserve every last bit of misery that comes our way.

Posted by: jazzgrrrl25 | September 15, 2008 12:57 AM | Report abuse

Why is nobody calling the McCain campaign on this "Russia is close to Alaska" crap. Are they serious? At first, I thought it was just McCain being old, but then I checked, and Cindy McCain said it, Steve Doofus on Fox news said it, and now Palin with this "You can see Russia from some island somewhere in Alaska, on a clear day, with binoculars, if you stand on a hill" business.
Here McCain campaign I'll give you a freebie, save a few dollars on advisers and quip writers, "You know, Alaska and Russia used to be connected by a land bridge"

Posted by: matlock | September 15, 2008 12:26 AM | Report abuse

Wow, anonymous, you are bitter for some reason.

"Go back to tennis?" Great comeback.

Seriously - this country needs a leader who is not a selfish, empty, socialist, who is for income redistribution, bigger govt, and just generally scary in his views.

We all know that when Obama's past associations are focused upon (Wright, Ayers, Rezco) in the weeks before the election, this country will not vote for him.

It doesn't matter what grade anyone gives Sarah Palin. This election is about Obama, not Palin.

I guess when one can't say anything substantive about their own candidate, they have to focus on the VP candidate of the other party.

Palin scares the heck out of you guys, because you realize Obama cannot compete with the McCain/Palin ticket.

Posted by: tennismom | September 15, 2008 12:19 AM | Report abuse

Foxnews running a repeat of their Friday SHOW. Spinning their take on what's going on with the Political race.

Why a rerun FOXNEWS, don't you have anything better like NFL FOOTBALL HIGHLIGHTS.

Can't you get Obama out of your head? You know you want that BLACK MAN? Get your own BLACK MAN FOXNEWS! Bill 'O' Reily and that EX-MONDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL FLOP GUY.

DENNIS MILLER needs a new script. Like a soap opera...DAYS OF OUR TIES, GET OFF Bill's N*TS, HAHAHAHA Come on Dennis your more manly than that!

Posted by: FOXNEWS RERUN | September 15, 2008 12:09 AM | Report abuse

There's no question -- she gets an F.

Perhaps a D minus, but only because she stumbled, out of serendipity rather than genuine understanding, on the debate about the "Bush doctrine." And the lack of coherence on the Bush doctrine reflects not complexity of political throught, but rather his own incompetence and lack of analysis.

Unfortunately for the left, however, Palin's failing grade will do little to diminish her public standing. She has accomplished exactly what McCain wanted from her -- energizing the base -- and those supporters will not foresake her.

It's interesting that the pundits have done little to compare Palin with Harriet Miers, who also came under fire for having a thin resume but the right chromosome. The unfortunate difference is that Harriet was competent but still came under friendly fire from fellow conservatives, while Palin has been the exact opposite.

Posted by: Mervyn | September 15, 2008 12:08 AM | Report abuse

I notice there has been little coverage (besides a rapidly-vanishing Post story) about her willingness to go to war with Russia--a policy which controverts the highly successful containment policy and the continued reality of MAD, or mutual nuclear deterrence. She is an idiot, and the press is remiss in not pointing out that she would be a danger to the country and the world. Plus WHERE ARE MCCAIN'S MEDICAL RECORDS?

Posted by: scientist1 | September 15, 2008 12:01 AM | Report abuse

Are you kidding me? I not only gave her an F, I was embarrassed for her. This isn't a job you take and then figure out how to do it later through on the job training. I wish Charlie Gibson had asked her: What does the VP do? (the specific responsibilities/day to day activities). Are you prepared to act in the event of another event like 9/11? What experience do you have with homeland security? She isn't ready for prime time. In fact, I'm befuddled as to how she became a governor.

Posted by: Andy | September 14, 2008 11:52 PM | Report abuse

Palin's interview with Gibson demonstrated the depth of her shallowness; she is not even qualified to be the governor of Alaska. Apparently, the people of Alaska are so frostbitten they do not even notice her ignorance.

"Insight" does not mean that you can literally see something; that concept is two words, "in sight."

She blundered, stumbled, and failed to say anything of substance after two full weeks of preparation and cramming with McCain's experts. Palin should gracefully admit she is out of her depth and return to the backwoods and backwaters where she is more comfortable.

And for the PTA mom who lacks "experience" and "a big fat resume," does she think for a moment that she would be accepted in Washington by the people with "experience" and "big fat resumes" that she is going "to change?" I can hear the laughter in the bars and on the cocktail circuit now: Did you hear that VP Palin was looking everywhere for the little smoked sausages? Hilarious! She she does not know that no one serves those in D.C. And her half-wit husband brought his own can to spit his chewing tobacco!

Finally, Palin should be happy and relieved that Hillary is not Obama's running mate. Imagine! A graduate of Wellesley and Yale debating a refugee from a trailer park. I would put my money on Hillary making Palin "blink."

Posted by: rgdesert | September 14, 2008 11:41 PM | Report abuse

She failed to convince me that any answer was unrehearsed and/or held as conviction.

Posted by: I. Gotta Haddock | September 14, 2008 11:39 PM | Report abuse

Does Sarah really love me? Will the Alaskan Gov. drill for profit or decide that Earth comes before profit?

Posted by: Planet Earth | September 14, 2008 11:11 PM | Report abuse


Unfortunately for all of us it is in fact true that current democratic policy is skewed towards larger, more powerful government. The very essence of liberal political thought is well enshrined in the opening of Obama's convention speech when he says,

"you have lost your homes and even more are watching your home values plummet. More of you have cars you can’t afford to drive, credit card bills you can’t afford to pay, and tuition that’s beyond your reach. These challenges are not all of government’s making. But the failure to respond is a direct result of a broken politics in Washington and the failed policies of George W. Bush."

If government's failure to respond is to blame for all our economic and social struggle, then clearly the government is responsible for our well-being in many ways. Obama wants you to think that you have a car you can't afford to drive because of Bush. But this clearly illuminates the sheer absurdity of liberal philosophy. Individuals making individual choices are ultimately responsible for their welfare, and oftentimes the best thing the government can do is to step back and let people take control of their own destiny. Under Obama, we will not be encouraged to do for ourselves, we will be encouraged to let the government do for us. Also we will have to let the government do for others with our tax dollars. Of course, a lot of this occurs now, but what I am against is the government seizing more and more control, more and more capital, to the point where one day it the dam will break loose and our liberty will have all but vanished.

If you voted libertarian previously, then I encourage you to re-think your choice, because honestly, Obama is very strongly pro-big government. It just rings through loud and clear in his lofty rhetoric. I think he will surely expand our federal government's power and control to levels we have not ever seen. If Bush already did that, then just wait till we get Obama!

Posted by: Mark | September 14, 2008 11:09 PM | Report abuse

Many questions remain in my mind about Sara Palin -

During the ONLY outside interview (in several parts) with Charles Gibson, I noted that Sarah rambled on that the McCain/Palin administration would get government out of the way of business so they could create jobs...then she switched to something about McCain/Palin would lower taxes and that they would use government agencies to protect people by strict oversight such as with Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and protect people as Government is supposed to...

Charles Gibson saw, as many viewers that she was creating a conflict in her statement (more government - less government which is it?), and he asked her to itemize what the McCain/Palin goals were that she just described, and she changed the goals to something like 1) lower taxes, 2) find & eliminate waste 3)use the government to enforce and protect people as they are supposed to do and did not such as in the case of Jennie Mae and Fredde Mac...

I guess she forgot about her earlier ramblings about get government out of the way of business...I suspect she would cut off the legs of Government enforcement as the Bush Administration has done and is the first to yell - The Government can't do the job so eliminate it...and then bemoan the problems that arise from a broken government...

Charles Gibson tried to point out to her the inconsistencies in what she said, but she changed her comments to match her learned responses...--- Yet the press has ignored this - I saw that Hillary was held to a higher standard by the press...

What a shame the Republican Party and the press protects Palin from real questions about how she will run the country ... With McCain at 72 and a cancer survivor based on my experience, She will be President one day if she is elected Vice President - We the People, deserve to know more...

Posted by: scvoter | September 14, 2008 11:05 PM | Report abuse

Can someone clarify for me Gov Palin's response on Day 2 to Mr Gibson's request/demand for three differences from the Bush economic policy? She said 1) lower taxes, 2) find & eliminate waste and 3) eliminate pork barrel spending.

Which of these is an actual difference in policy from the Bush administration? While they certainly failed at numbers two and three, they DO have such policies. They're kindof like the 'strong dollar' policy that the president likes to claim we have - while driving the dollar to record lows (from which its recovered marginally in the last month or two).

Posted by: bsimon | September 14, 2008 10:38 PM | Report abuse

Mark writes
"His promises all center on the theme of a bigger, more powerful government improving your life, your community, your country."

Actually, Mark, that's not true. I can understand why you'd think so, because that's the typical characterization of Democratic policy. But, if you actually dig into Obama's policy papers, you'll find that his goal is to change the way the gov't and citizens interact. Sure, he's no libertarian in the vein of Barr and Paul. But he's no FDR either. I voted Libertarian in the last two elections (Browne & Badnarik), due to utter contempt for Gore/Bush/Kerry. However, this time, I'm voting for Obama.

Palin interview: reinforced preexisting opinions. I doubt it changed anyone's feelings about her, for or against, unless some swing voters were paying attention & noticed she doesn't know sh!t about the federal government's role.

Posted by: bsimon | September 14, 2008 10:32 PM | Report abuse

Palin's media-induced lustre is beginning to fade as more and more Americans begin to look past her appearance to who she really is and what she actually stands for. Do we want a foreign policy challenged Sarah Palin a heartbeat from the presidency? Do women impregnated through rape or incest wish to be forced to carry such fetuses to term? Do we want Bible-thumping, war-mongering, fear-producing, book-banning Sarah in the White House with McCain who sings “bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran".

As John Cole put it: "Sarah Palin is the distilled essence of wingnut. She has it all. She is dishonest. She is a religious nut. She is incurious. She is anti-science. She is inexperienced. She abuses her authority. She hides behind executive privilege. She is a big spender. She works from the gut and places a greater value on instinct than knowledge."

John Cole

The Bush Doctrrine
Glenn Greenwald -

Posted by: Kristin2 | September 14, 2008 8:50 PM

Posted by: Kristin2 | September 14, 2008 10:31 PM | Report abuse

Here's some advice:
Go back to Alaska, spend some time getting your sh!t together as a knowlegable politician who knows world affairs. Dump the small-town mentality.

Come back in 4-8 years and make a run for the presidency, you'll have a good shot.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 10:29 PM | Report abuse

On Todd Palin:
"Despite holding no government position, he attends official meetings and is copied on e-mails concerning state business."

So, is this doofus who was a member of a political party who's main objective is to seceed from the union going to be closely involved in our government affairs should palin be elected?

What's the matter with McCain, is he trying to start another civil war?, doesn't he love America?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 10:24 PM | Report abuse

A big A: Sarah Palin is fantastic and energetic. She has records to show off but Obama has nothing.

Posted by: Steve | September 14, 2008 10:19 PM | Report abuse

she is an intellectual outhouse...I give her a C b/c the rest of America is too stupid to realize how dumb she really is. This lady is like Bush's dumber twin sister...

Posted by: jp | September 14, 2008 10:15 PM | Report abuse

the bridge to nowhere line is not an old line. old but not old, rather a "lie line" and PEOPLE REALIZE THAT NOW!

that "pitbull with lipstick" line will also be contradicted...

Obama was'nt chosing to run for President for nothing. Obama's campaign is challenging a tough Karl Rove campaign.

that's why the (R) are happy, ROVE is a ROGUE!

Posted by: bridge to nowhere line. | September 14, 2008 10:03 PM | Report abuse

I'll give her a D on content and F on world knowledge

Posted by: Bee, PA | September 14, 2008 9:59 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin fans riding on a hot air balloon thats just going to turn into hot air!

Why McRove going to despicable means to convince women by the way of PUMA, smear campaign and deceit is no surprise.

McBush, McRove, McPuma... 3's company!

Posted by: BALLOON MAN | September 14, 2008 9:46 PM | Report abuse

Personally, I prefer Bob Barr or Ron Paul, but obviously candidates like that have next to no chance of winning. It shocks me, however, that so many people rally around Obama's promises. His promises all center on the theme of a bigger, more powerful government improving your life, your community, your country. But what person in this country doesn't think that the sprawling, blind-to-the-people federal government isn't one of the main problems to be addressed? Even if Obama does succeed in expanding the role of the government in a positive way, the greater power afforded to the elite ruling class can surely be used for harm in the future. Do we really want to continue handing our freedom and our finances to a government that may or may not be corrupt depending on what elected officials are in charge?

Still, I have many reservations about the McCain/Palin ticket. I do think Palin is still a relatively unknown force in politics, and while she does have some commendable personal qualities, how she would perform as vice president or president is difficult to judge. McCain is perhaps a bit more quantifiable, but I don't really see the commitment to reducing and streamlining the government in his politics. Barr, for instance, has proposed that if elected, he would immediately reduce White House staff by 10%, and would encourage other branches to follow suit. Now that's real conservatism. Where are all the conservatives?

Posted by: Mark | September 14, 2008 9:26 PM | Report abuse

Big F- on content, C- on form.....that a we want another D- minus in Washington?

Posted by: chris | September 14, 2008 9:18 PM | Report abuse

That line used to be a big applause line. If you have been watching, the last few times she used it it was eerily silent. The audience seemed to be looking like "WTF is she talking about, why is she still saying that?"

If Palin is going around BOASTING Quote "Thanks but no thanks CONGRESS, for that BRIDGE TO NOWHERE" and still yet accepting the money?

Has GOV. Palin been going around the Country BURNING HER BRIDGES?

Don't People in high places need contacts? Is she thinking of her POLITICAL career, all the while burning the only PEOPLE that can help her in the time of need.

Palin needs to STOP burning bridges and appoligize to the people who can help her and stop being a puppet for the MCROVE CLAN!




Posted by: NO FRIEND OF MINE! | September 14, 2008 9:10 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 9:17 PM | Report abuse

I hate to burst your bubble but the Enquirer that has a story right now about Sarah Palins affair with a business partner. (Remember Edward's, the Enquirer has been pretty good with their facts).
In about a week they will be doing a story about Her husband and prostitutes. He and his buddies do more on the long cold fishing trips then fish. Enquirer has been spreading money around up there pretty good and people are talking. They even have a story about the younger daughter involving sex and drugs. This whole family is disfunction.

I wasn't too keen on McCain, but after the Palin pick I'm voting for them. She has more expereience and decisiveness than the two democrats mutts (rookie and the mouth). Unlike Gibson she understands NATO membership requirements.
No wonder the liberal democrats don't like her. On top of her accomplishments, she has class, ethics, integrity and principles, all of which they lack. Unlike Hillary, she has a faithful husband who doesn't chase every skirt that walks by.
All the dmocrats have are a couple more losers.

Posted by: LarryG62 | September 14, 2008 8:35 PM

Posted by: Enquiring minds want to know | September 14, 2008 9:14 PM | Report abuse

If Palin is going around BOASTING Quote "Thanks but no thanks CONGRESS, for that BRIDGE TO NOWHERE" and still yet accepting the money?

Has GOV. Palin been going around the Country BURNING HER BRIDGES?

Don't People in high places need contacts? Is she thinking of her POLITICAL career, all the while burning the only PEOPLE that can help her in the time of need.

Palin needs to STOP burning bridges and appoligize to the people who can help her and stop being a puppet for the MCROVE CLAN!




Posted by: NO FRIEND OF MINE! | September 14, 2008 9:10 PM | Report abuse

She didn't have my vote before the interview and she doesn't have it now. The interview didn't show us or tell us anything new about Palin. It showed that she does have the confidence to answer questions, but her responses didn't show any brilliance on her part. In fact, some made her seem very uneducated and inexperienced to be a VP. I'm for Obama/Biden all the way!

Posted by: Givemeabreak | September 14, 2008 9:07 PM | Report abuse

ROTFLMAO!! Are you kidding? Really? You have to ask us? She gets a big F. No doubt her handlers were in the back showing her cue cards. We really need a puppet in the White House, we would be getting another George Bush.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 8:58 PM | Report abuse

As a woman and a conservative, I am completely appalled by John McCain's selection. Was there no better candidate that he could have chosen? In the entire Republican party was there not one person with more qualifications that would have done well? I can not in good faith vote for him, as I don't want my children to suffer under a potential Palin Administration. She would undoubtedly blow us up. She has absolutely no foreign affairs experience and the mere fact that she mentioned being able to see Russia spoke volumes about her ignorance and shallow mentality. Obama may not be the most experienced candidate, but at least he is highly educated and has a nuanced understanding of the world and foreign affairs. I would trust him any day over Governor Palin.

Posted by: Anne | September 14, 2008 8:52 PM | Report abuse

Your post has a lot to do with "Grading the Palin Showdown" -- not. You read as well as she does.

I really really care about some neighbor of O's who, when O was 8, was an anti-war activist, I'm sorry, I mean "terrorist." Herr Hannity and Faux News devoted about 100 hours to this junk three months ago. Keep up will you. Doesn't it bother you that someone rated Palin's interview "negative infinity"? That's like double secret probation.
"Who is William Ayers?
Ayers became involved in the New Left and the Students for a Democratic Society (SDS). He rose to national prominence as an SDS leader in 1968 and 1969.
* * * * * * * * * *
The problem that your viewers, your guys that — your folks, the folks you champion, the problem you're going through, the problems they're going through with trying to pay their bills, trying to keep their job, trying to move up in this world, their problem isn't Bill Ayers. It was Bill Ayers 40 years ago when he was blowing stuff up.

Posted by: the truth | September 14, 2008 7:22 PM"

Posted by: Real truth | September 14, 2008 8:44 PM | Report abuse

I wasn't too keen on McCain, but after the Palin pick I'm voting for them. She has more expereience and decisiveness than the two democrats mutts (rookie and the mouth). Unlike Gibson she understands NATO membership requirements.
No wonder the liberal democrats don't like her. On top of her accomplishments, she has class, ethics, integrity and principles, all of which they lack. Unlike Hillary, she has a faithful husband who doesn't chase every skirt that walks by.
All the dmocrats have are a couple more losers.

Posted by: LarryG62 | September 14, 2008 8:35 PM | Report abuse

I'm a registered Republican and one who doesn’t need to see another interview of this woman. I have made up my mind to vote Democrat this time.
Enough is enough.
Ah, the interview gets a resounding “F” for you know what.

Posted by: Rocky Moran | September 14, 2008 8:21 PM | Report abuse

I give her an ascending D - .. She did get better as the interviews went on. Sadly that because she studied the tapes from each previous interview.

What a joke. Who splits interviews into parts? Oh yeah, those who need briefing in order to GET THEIR STORIES straight.

America (I hope) is not that stupid.

Posted by: Vance C. McDaniel | September 14, 2008 8:12 PM | Report abuse

I hope you all know should they win it is likely Palin will ascend to the office of president in the first term. Doctors have said it is a 70% chance that should Mccain have a reoccurrence of Melanoma it would be so debilitating he would not be able to stay office. Mccain who currently takes six different drugs based on the limited medical records that released that were only available for a few hours before they were sealed and no access has been made since. Palin will in fact be president, it is only a certainty, Mccain will not survive his first term.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 8:12 PM | Report abuse

"...ABC, inexplicably, doesn't appear to be allowing intrepid bloggers like yours truly to embed the interview -- either in parts or in its entirety -- so we had to grab it from a little website known as You Tube..."

The above gets an "F". The blog posts here can be characterized many ways: insipid, discouraging of dialogue, totally beholden to the conventional wisdom, MAINSTREAM in every respect, without any intellectual weight, without any partisan bite, leaning strongly McCain but with far too much plausible deniability to be satisfactory to the true McCain fans here (gee whiz, what if Obama wins? ), the one thing this blog is not is "INTREPID".

If it were "INTREPID" the question would not be which meaningless letter grade would you assign to Governor Palin's interview with Charlie Gibson?

I favor Obama in this and I don't much care for McCain or Palin, but I don't have to be right. At least the pro-McCain and pro-Obama commenters here put some heart and soul into their opinions. I have a lot of respect for that. I've also learned a great deal about both candidates by reading how their opponents attack each on posts here.

I learn absolutely nothing and am thorougly bored by every post by the proprietor of the blog. The problem with established media "blogs" is that they're not really blogs. They're small opinion pieces written by the same sorts of people from the same angles on the same subjects that show up in the hard copy of the WaPo.

Real "bloggers" are DIY and as such don't have to answer to anybody. So, they can put some interesting views out there from left and right.

But if the letter grade is important, I'll give her a "B". While she seemed a little overmatched and overwhelmed, she certainly evaded the tougher questions deftly. She made her usual connection to vast numbers of the electorate by hitting all the buzzwords and using her All-American squeaky accents to good effct. Her "hockey mask" was rather an effective coverup how much of an extremist she is.

She stood up far better to Charlie Gibson than McCain did to Judy Woodruff on TV; that's for sure. If I liked her views, I might have given her an A-.

She was reasonably articulate and if you were a Palin fan going in there was no reason to change your mind. If you were an Obama/Biden fan going in, it sound like she said nothing at all but said it well.

What's the difference anyway? I'd prefer to discuss economic issues or foreign policy. I don't care to get into any spats with anti-Obama contributors anymore because they bring up stuff that I might not agree with but it's a lot of detail that I didn't know and I respect their sincerity.

The bland posts up top don't serve anyone any good on either side of this.

Posted by: DexterManley | September 14, 2008 8:07 PM | Report abuse

C - I give her a C for holding up to pressure during her 1st televised interview.

F - I give her a F for some of the responses that she gave in the interview concerning the Bridge to No Where, God and the IRAQ war, Pork Barrel Spending. Since becoming John McCains VP Pick, she has all of a suddenly taking a different position on these issues.

Posted by: Lisa | September 14, 2008 8:05 PM | Report abuse

John just because you are war hero dose not mean you can be president of this United States. If this would be the case their are many war hero more qualified than John Mccain. Oh by the way why did he put a stop to releasing all Vietnam records in the government archives. This would have help a lot of POWs family bring closers to their loss. Yeah this maverick went against his own party and other democrats to prevent these records from being released. John Mccain block all legislation to release the records because it would expose what he did when he was captured. The story he tells today is not the same story that was told in his military records. He is a very selfish man. John Mccain first then others.

Oh he was broken up when he came back. I thought he would have had mercy on his first wife. She had two broken hips, shorten by five inches from a car accident and taking care of his kids while he was gone. Then he came home and did not like he saw a over weight women trying to make it around. Yeah what man what man what a very selfish man. Then he committed adultery with his now wife! Then he divorce his first wife and married Cindy Mccain. John Mccain first wife had to be taken care of by Ronald Reagan's friends and family. Hey you know Ed Meese? Yeah he put her and the kids up and gave her a job working for Ronald Reagan. Honor please do not mention his name in the same breath of Honor. It reserved for true hero with integrity and honor.

He is bless my brother never came home! save me the tears!


Posted by: Barry | September 14, 2008 8:02 PM | Report abuse





Charlie Gibson asked Sarah Palin during interview! Asked Palin about cross border attack into Pakistan from Kuwait without permission from Pakistani Gov. to get terrorist.

Posted by: CHARLIE | September 14, 2008 7:47 PM | Report abuse

well i heard from tree huggers and all dumocrats. they sound like fanatics who need to step back and listen. there's only one canidate who sacraficed his life for you and country and its not obama. he may win but is that what you really want. remember he'll be commander and chief. god help us

Posted by: john | September 14, 2008 7:31 PM | Report abuse

Who is William Ayers?
Ayers became involved in the New Left and the Students for a Democratic Society (SDS). He rose to national prominence as an SDS leader in 1968 and 1969. As head of an SDS regional group, the "Jesse James Gang", Ayers made decisive contributions to the Weatherman orientation toward militancy.
The groups Ayers headed in Detroit, Michigan became one of the earliest gatherings of what became the Weatherman. Between the 1968 Democratic National Convention in Chicago and the June 1969 SDS convention, Ayers became a prominent leader of the group, which arose as a result of a schism in SDS.
"During that time his infatuation with street fighting grew and he developed a language of confrontational militancy that became more and more extreme over the year [1969]", former Weatherman member Cathy Wilkerson wrote in 2001 (who refers to the Weathermen's activity as "craziness"). Before this time, Ayers had become a roommate of and strong influence on Terry Robbins, who was two years younger and "came to idolize him", Wilkerson wrote. Robbins would later be killed while making a bomb.
In June 1969, the Weatherman took control of the SDS at its national convention, where Ayers was elected "Education Secretary".
Later in 1969, Ayers participated in planting a bomb at a statue dedicated to police casualties in the 1886 Haymarket Riot.The blast broke almost 100 windows and blew pieces of the statue onto the nearby Kennedy Expressway. (The statue was rebuilt and unveiled on May 4, 1970, and blown up again by other Weathermen on October 6, 1970. Built yet again, the city posted a 24-hour police guard to prevent another blast.) Ayers participated in the Days of Rage riot in Chicago in October 1969, and in December was at the "War Council" meeting in Flint, Michigan.
Larry Grathwohl, an FBI informant in the Weatherman group from the fall of 1969 to the spring of 1970, thought that Ayers, along with Bernardine Dohrn, were probably the two most authoritative people within the organization.
Years underground
In 1970 he "went underground" with several associates after the Greenwich Village townhouse explosion, in which Weatherman member Ted Gold, Ayers' close friend Terry Robbins, and Ayers' girlfriend, Oughton, were killed when a nail bomb (an anti-personnel device) they were building exploded. Kathy Boudin and Cathy Wilkerson survived the blast. Ayers was not facing criminal charges at the time, but the federal government later filed charges against him.[
Ayers participated in the bombings of New York City Police Headquarters in 1970, the United States Capitol building in 1971, and The Pentagon in 1972, as he noted in his 2001 book, Fugitive Days. Because of a water leak caused by the Pentagon bombing, aerial bombardments during the Vietnam War had to be halted for several days. Ayers writes:
Although the bomb that rocked the Pentagon was itsy-bitsy - weighing close to two pounds - it caused 'tens of thousands of dollars' of damage. The operation cost under $500, and no one was killed or even hurt. In that same time, the Pentagon spent tens of millions of dollars and dropped tens of thousands of pounds of explosives on Viet Nam, killing or wounding thousands of human beings, causing hundreds of millions of dollars of damage.
If you take the Obama campaign at its word, the contention that there is a relationship between Bill Ayers and Barack Obama is “phony,” “tenuous,” a “stretch.” In Obama’s own words, Ayers was “just a guy who lives in my neighborhood,” certainly not a long time close political ally.
But a review of just the publicly known highlights of the Ayers-Obama relationship suggests a twenty year pattern of connections between the two.
At the heart of this “Top Ten” list is the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, which Ayers founded and Obama and Ayers co-chaired for five years, raising and spending at least $110 million in an effort to bolster a “radical” (Ayers’ word) reform program in the Chicago Public Schools from 1994 to 2001.
1) Out of the Woods:

The Woods Fund financed the hiring of Obama in 1985 by the Developing Communities Project.
According to The Nation: “The Woods Fund, in many ways, is responsible for helping start Obama as an organizer and shaping his political identity. In 1985 the foundation gave a $25,000 grant to the Developing Communities Project (aka the “DCP”), which hired Obama, at 24, as an organizer on Chicago’s economically depressed South Side.”
The Woods Fund was founded by the Woods family which owned the Illinois-based Sahara Coal Company, a major supplier of coal from its mines to major Illinois power companies. Commonwealth Edison, the giant Chicago-based electric power company was headed by Thomas Ayers, father of Bill Ayers.
Obama served on the board of the Woods Fund from 1993 until 2002. Bill Ayers joined the board of the Fund in 1999 and continues to serve on the board today. He chaired the board for two years during that time.
2) Know your ABCs:

Obama’s DCP supported radical school reform project together with Bill Ayers.
In 1987 in the wake of a controversial strike by the Chicago Teachers’ Union, the Alliance for Better Chicago Schools, or ABCs, was formed to lobby for a new Illinois law that would mandate the establishment of a new power center in Chicago public schools. Local school councils would be established to watchdog union teachers and their principals and they would have the power to fire principals at will.
Bill Ayers helped organize the ABCs group, was its contact person and later its chair. Barack Obama worked on school reform efforts for the DCP at that time and the DCP was a member of the ABCs. Chicago United, a business group established by Tom Ayers, Bill’s father, was also a member of the ABCs.
The Woods Fund also provided additional financial support to the DCP in 1988 to support its school reform efforts. A program officer of the Woods Fund at the time was Ken Rolling who would later be hired by Bill Ayers and Barack Obama as Executive Director of the $110 million Chicago Annenberg Challenge.
3) Putting on the White Shoe:

Obama and Dohrn worked for elite law firm Sidley and Austin

After surfacing from the Weather Underground in 1980 Bernardine Dohrn, wife of Bill Ayers, pled guilty to criminal charges related to the violent Days of Rage in Chicago in 1969 and received three years probation. She later refused to testify in front of a grand jury convened to investigate a bank robbery carried out by former comrades of Dohrn’s from the Weather Underground. Currently a clinical faculty member at Northwestern University School of Law, she told the New York Times that she thought grand juries were “illegal” and “coercive.” She served seven months in jail.
Because of the criminal convictions Dohrn, who received a law degree from the University of Chicago in 1967, was refused admission to the New York bar. Nonetheless, she was hired as a legal clerk by Sidley and Austin, a major Chicago law firm, in their New York office in 1984. Howard Trienens, then managing partner of the firm, recently told the Chicago Tribune that he arranged the hiring of Dohrn as a favor to his fellow Northwestern University trustee and classmate, Tom Ayers. Tom Ayers’ firm, Commonwealth Edison, has used Sidley as outside counsel for many years. She later worked in their Chicago office when she and Bill Ayers moved back to Chicago in 1987. She left Sidley in 1988.
Barack Obama left Chicago in the fall of 1988 to attend Harvard Law School. In the summer after his first year at Harvard he became an associate in the Chicago office of Sidley and Austin.

4) A hard rock miner:

Chicago lefty lawyer and Dohrn classmate Judson Miner hires Barack Obama out of Harvard.
Barack Obama returned to Harvard after his summer at Sidley and Austin in the fall of 1989. That fall he was elected the president of the Harvard Law Review, the first black person to hold the position. Although Obama could have returned to Sidley or perhaps clerked for the United States Supreme Court, a natural step for Law Review officers, he chose instead to work for Judson Miner, a partner in a small civil rights law firm in Chicago. Miner had been counsel to Chicago’s late black mayor, Harold Washington. Miner was also classmates with Bernardine Dohrn at the University of Chicago law school in 1967 where they were both were involved in anti-war activity.
5) Rising to the Challenge:

Ayers is named Chairman of the Board of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge founded by Bill Ayers
In late 1993, Bill Ayers, now an associate professor of education at the University of Illinois Chicago Circle Campus, organized a team to put together a grant proposal to secure nearly $50 million from the Annenberg Challenge. The money was to be used by Ayers and co. to bolster the radical Local School Councils reform project that Ayers and Obama had championed back in 1988 through the ABCs.
The grant application was successful and in early 1995 Barack Obama was named chairman of the board of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge. Ayers was named co-chair of the Challenge’s operative and strategic body, the Chicago School Reform Collaborative. Ayers and Obama work together for the next five years on raising an additional $60 million in matching money from local foundations and corporations and using the money to intervene in the governance of the Chicago public schools.
The Challenge through a multi-million dollar Leadership Development Initiative intervened in the School Council elections in the middle of what was known as the Chicago School Wars. At the same time Chicago Mayor Richard Daley was pushing, successfully, to gut the power of the Councils.
6) In the Palmer of his hand:

Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn host Obama’s state senate kick-off in their Hyde Park home
In the fall of 1995 Barack Obama began his first electoral campaign to replace State Senator Alice Palmer who was attempting to run for Congress. Palmer accompanied Obama to the Hyde Park home of Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn for an introduction of Obama to the Hyde Park left. Unnamed Obama campaign aides told the New York Times that this was the first time that Obama met Ayers and Dohrn, part of the campaign’s effort to minimize the relationship between their candidate and the two authoritarian leftists. Of course that was wrong, as clearly Obama and Ayers had already met well before this “meet and greet.”
7) The “lost years”: Ayers and Obama to the rescue of troubled youth
In 1997 Bill Ayers published a book that criticized the treatment of juvenile defendants in the criminal justice system including the practice in some states of trying these individuals as adults. Barack Obama praised the book as a “searing and timely account” in the Chicago Tribune.
In late 1997 and 1998 a bill to impose “blended” sentencing on certain juvenile offenders was proposed in the Illinois legislature where Obama was now a state senator, representing the south side Chicago district that included Ayers and Dohrn’s Hyde Park neighborhood. The bill would have allowed parallel juvenile and adult sentences with the adult sentence held as a threat to be imposed if serious offenders violated terms of their juvenile conviction.
Obama, Dohrn and Ayers opposed the bill. Michelle Obama, now working at the University of Chicago in Hyde Park, organized a panel discussion there in late 1997 as the new bill was gaining momentum, to discuss Ayers’ book. Barack Obama and Ayers were on the panel and Obama was described in the event’s press release as ”working to block proposed legislation that would throw more juvenile offenders into the adult system.”
The “R” word:

Obama advisor promotes a reparations approach to education reform; Ayers endorses it
In 2006 Professor Gloria Ladson-Billings of the University of Wisconsin, the then president of the American Education Research Association (AERA), the nation’s leading School of Education professional association, proposed a new policy to tackle the problems of America’s public schools: the repayment of centuries of “education debt” that allegedly is owed to people of color as a result of slavery and discrimination. She rooted the concept in the literature supporting reparations for slavery.
In 2007 Linda Darling-Hammond, a prominent and respected professor at the Stanford University School of Education, endorsed the same idea in an article in The Nation. In late 2007 Darling-Hammond was named an education advisor to the Obama campaign. In February 2008 Darling-Hammond issued a blueprint for education reform by the next President that set as its #1 priority the repayment of the “education debt,” as proposed originally by Ladson-Billings.
Bill Ayers has endorsed the idea of repayment of the “education debt.” Ayers is now a Vice President-elect (Division B: Curriculum Studies) of the AERA.
A chapter called “Education for Democracy” by Darling-Hammond appeared in a volume co-edited by Ayers called A Light in Dark Times. A chapter co-authored by Ladson-Billings on “racing justice” appeared in a book co-edited by Ayers called Teaching for Social Justice: A Democracy and Education Reader. Ladson-Billings wrote the foreword to Ayers’ book, To Teach: The Journey of a Teacher. Ayers and Ladson-Billings are co-editors of City Kids, City Schools: More Reports from the Front Row just published. Ladson-Billings contributed a chapter in a book edited by Bill Ayers, Rick Ayers, Bernardine Dohrn and Jesse L. Jackson called Zero Tolerance: Resisting the Drive for Punishment published in 2001.
More fundamentally, Bill Ayers introduced the concept of “white supremacy” as America’s original sin within the new left group SDS as part of his effort, together with his future wife Bernardine Dohrn, to hijack the student-led antiwar movement for his still-to-come terrorist actions as a leader of the Weather Underground.
Ayers argues that the fundamental issue in American life is “white skin privilege” - that white Americans benefit from being white at the expense of blacks.
Ayers himself wrote on his website in a January 19, 2008 essay on school reform:
“The dominant narrative in contemporary school reform is once again focused on exclusion and disadvantage, race and class, black and white. ‘Across the US,’ the National Governor’s Association declared in 2005, ‘a gap in academic achievement persists between minority and disadvantaged students and their white counterparts.’ This is the commonly referenced and popularly understood ‘racial achievement gap,’ and it drives education policy at every level. Interestingly, whether heartfelt or self-satisfied, the narrative never mentions the monster in the room: white supremacy….Gloria Ladson-Billings upends all of this with an elegant reversal: there is no achievement gap, she argues, but actually a glancing reflection of something deeper and more profound—America has a profound education debt. The educational inequities that began with the annihilation of native peoples and the enslavement of Africans, the conquest of the continent and the importation of both free labor and serfs, transformed into apartheid education, something anemic, inferior, inadequate, and oppressive. Over decades and centuries the debt has accumulated and is passed from generation to generation, and it continues to grow and pile up.”
Obama has several times during the campaign suggested that the kind of reparations he is for is increased spending on education.
9) A toast to the maoist:

Bill Ayers long time comrade Mike Klonsky blogs for Obama
One of Bill Ayers’ and Bernardine Dohrn’s comrades in the late 60s Students for a Democratic Society was Mike Klonsky. When Dohrn and Ayers moved in one direction toward the violent tactics of the Weather Underground, Klonsky, in the wake of the Soviet invasion of Czechoslovakia, dropped the pro-Russian communist politics of his parents and became a committed Maoist. As leader of the Communist Party (Marxist-Leninist) in 1977 he travelled to Beijing and was toasted by the senior Beijing leadership.
When the crazy left of the 70s died in the 80s, Klonsky went to graduate school in education in Florida and then moved to Chicago. While driving a cab there he was recruited by his old friend Bill Ayers to head up a new project called the Small Schools Workshop in 1991. It’s offices were in the Department of Education building at the University of Illinois Chicago Circle Campus where Ayers taught. In 1995 the newly formed Chicago Annenberg Challenge headed by Ayers and Obama gave the Workshop a grant of $175,000. The Annenberg Challenge also had its office space in the same building as Ayers Department and the Workshop, rent free courtesy of the University.
In 2008 Klonsky ran a blog on the official Obama campaign website on education policy and “social justice” teaching. When discussion of the Klonsky blog emerged in the blogosphere, it was promptly shut down by the campaign and all of the posts made by Klonsky were removed from the site.
10) The Great Debate: George v. Barack
There is little publicly available information on the precise relationship between Obama and Ayers today. I have been told by Linda Darling-Hammond that Ayers does not have any role in the campaign, although I do wonder how Ayers’ buddy Mike Klonsky could blog on the Obama website unless Ayers had a hand in it. Obama himself did not exactly eliminate any doubts on this score when asked about his relationship with Ayers during a debate with Hilary Clinton by George Stephanopoulos of ABC News.
Obama said that Ayers was a professor of English (not Education) and was just a guy who lives in his neighborhood. Well, clearly not “just,” as we now know. But then Obama said that he does not exchange ideas with Ayers “on a regular basis.” Whatever that is supposed to mean (they debate the future of the world on an “irregular basis”?) it certainly fails to put the issue to rest.

Here is how Obama routinely describes his relationship with William Ayers
From ABC News Democratic Debate
GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: And, Senator, if you get the nomination, you’ll have to beat back these distractions.
And I want to give Senator Clinton a chance to respond, but first a follow-up on this issue, general theme of patriotism, in your relationships. A gentleman named William Ayers. He was part of the Weather Underground in the 1970s. They bombed the Pentagon, the Capitol, and other buildings. He’s never apologized for that.
And, in fact, on 9/11, he was quoted in the New York Times saying, “I don’t regret setting bombs. I feel we didn’t do enough.” An early organizing meeting for your State Senate campaign was held at his house and your campaign has said you are “friendly.”
Can you explain that relationship for the voters and explain to Democrats why it won’t be a problem?
OBAMA: George, but this is an example of what I’m talking about. This is a guy who lives in my neighborhood, who’s a professor of English in Chicago who I know and who I have not received some official endorsement from. He’s not somebody who I exchange ideas from on a regular basis.
And the notion that somehow as a consequence of me knowing somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago, when I was 8 years old, somehow reflects on me and my values doesn’t make much sense, George….
So this kind of game in which anybody who I know, regardless of how flimsy the relationship is, that somehow their ideas could be attributed to me, I think the American people are smarter than that. They’re not going to suggest somehow that that is reflective of my views, because it obviously isn’t.
Bill O’ Reilly Interview
OBAMA: In both his case and Father Pfleger's case, they've done great work in the community, and I worked in some very poor communities. That's how I got to know these folks because I was working in these neighborhoods. Now, on this Ayers thing, would you — you know, you've been hyping, Bill, pretty good.

O'REILLY: Not that much. You know, you were on the Woods Foundation.

OBAMA: Well, but here's the bottom line.

OBAMA: This guy did something despicable 40 years ago.

O'REILLY: You know, he did something despicable last week. He said he didn't do enough bombings. That's last week.

OBAMA: I haven't seen the guy in a year-and-a-half. But…

O'REILLY: But you know who he was. He's on the Woods Foundation board. You know he…
OBAMA: Let me finish my point, all right? Here's a guy who does something despicable when I'm 8 years old.


OBAMA: All right? I come to Chicago. He's working with Mayor Richard Daley, not known to be a radical. So, he and I know each other as a consequence of work he's doing on education. That is not an endorsement of his views. That's not…

O'REILLY: Yes, but you guys partnered up on a youth crime bill. Do you remember that?

OBAMA: And it was a good bill.

O'REILLY: No, it wasn't. That bill said that if a youth commits a second violent felony, he does time in an adult prison. That's two shots. You said no. You know the Southside of Chicago. You know how many people are hurt.

OBAMA: Listen, you're absolutely right. My community gets hit by crime more than…

O'REILLY: And I'm right on that bill. You were wrong on that bill.

OBAMA: Well, I disagree with you on that bill. We're getting too far afield here.

O'REILLY: That's important though. You and Ayers were allied on that bill.

OBAMA: No, no. Look, he didn't write that bill.

O'REILLY: No, he was supporting it, and so were you.

OBAMA: Well…

O'REILLY: But you guys were together on it.

OBAMA: Hold on a second. Now we're getting…

O'REILLY: All right. If that's unfair, I'm sorry.

OBAMA: That's pretty flimsy. Here's the point, right? This guy is not part of my campaign. He's not some adviser of mine. He is somebody who worked on education issues in Chicago that I know.
The problem that your viewers, your guys that — your folks, the folks you champion, the problem you're going through, the problems they're going through with trying to pay their bills, trying to keep their job, trying to move up in this world, their problem isn't Bill Ayers. It was Bill Ayers 40 years ago when he was blowing stuff up.

Posted by: the truth | September 14, 2008 7:22 PM | Report abuse

Averaging all of the commenters' ratings so far we get:

Palin: F- (she was definitely hurt by one rating of "negative infinity")

"F-" is the lowest rating in the history of rating candidates' performance from PTA level to presidential level going back to 1924.

The good news? Another historical first for Mrs. Palin.

Posted by: Registrar's Office | September 14, 2008 7:10 PM | Report abuse

John Reid = Lone Ranger
Bruce Wayne = Batman
Clark Kent = Superman
"Thomas Paine" = "scrivener"??
"tennismom" = "AsperGirl"??

Posted by: things that make you go um | September 14, 2008 7:00 PM | Report abuse


Voted one of the Nation's Top 5 Blogs for the 2008 Election:


Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 6:59 PM | Report abuse

It is bad when the comedienne imitating you is actually more knowledgeable and qualified for the position than YOU ARE.

Posted by: dl | September 14, 2008 6:57 PM | Report abuse

As a hockey mom she did great. As a future vice president she failed miserably. I give her an F

Posted by: Janie N. | September 14, 2008 6:56 PM | Report abuse

she gets an F

for freakin scary.

Posted by: dl | September 14, 2008 6:55 PM | Report abuse

She get a nice round number 0. You have to be kidding me. She get no grade. I never seen someone that wants to be vice president lack of so much knowledge. She is dumber than a box of rocks. An Airmen fresh in Air Force could have gave a better answers to the question than that. What in same Houston was Mccain thinking when he chose her. If you vote for her you better send your son and daughter to fight Mccain and Palins wars. I do not care how old you are. Get you big lazy hinds on the plain! This is beyond incompetent. It is just out right ill responsible. Republican ought to be ashamed. I have yet to ask a republican to say she qualify with a straight face!

What your party is doing playing on race and poor uneducated people playing them to be stupid! I hope it back fires. They saying poor Walmart , NASCAR , dads and moms are stupid. I hope these people show you how smart they are. Lying to them!

She gets a large negative number infinity!

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Posted by: VOTE NO! FOR REFORM! | September 14, 2008 6:23 PM | Report abuse

Remember during the Presidential debates involving Bush (pick any) and the conventional wisdom that if he were capable of stringing two sentences together, he should outright be declared the winner? What a low bar we have set for ourselves.

Posted by: SickOfStupidPundits | September 14, 2008 6:20 PM | Report abuse


Go back to tennis!

"Why have these questions not been asked of Barack Obama."

Excuse me. But he's been in the race for a year and a half and has been slaughtered by the press and Hillary Clinton for various reasons over that time.

You write: "What is his experience, exactly, that leads him to think he could be president?"

Well, what is John McCain's experience?

His experience is that he lies, and lies, and lies. Fits well into the record of Bush/Cheney. KARL ROVE! today said that McCain has gone too far in his ads by misstating things about Obama.

McCain's been a captive of Washington for 25 years and fought for a very short time in war because he got shot down. Since when do we reward defeat in wartime?

Hey! If he can get shot down in a plane and held captive for 5 years, LET'S MAKE HIM PRESIDENT! Yee-haw! Even better if he was one of the Keating 5. Even better if he wants to make the country bankrupt by continuing to fight in Iraq indefinitely and start new wars with Iran and whoever else looks at him the wrong way. "Well I'm pro-wwwd to BE an Americain!"

"She is not running for president, but VP."
Yeah, just keep thinking that.

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Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 5:52 PM | Report abuse


Republicans are so much more giving as well.

we are always willing to help those who need a hand up

Did you see Joe Bidens' take returns Friday.

The Guy averaged $350,000 a year in income for the last ten years.

His average annual contribution to charity a year?

A paltry $360/yr.

His used underwear and socks and the dufus wants to claim them.

I guess even a better question.

He's made 350k a year for the last ten years, but his Total net worth is $300k.

Any of you Libs see anything wrong with this picture?

and you want to give this guy the country's checkbook????

Obama .9 %
McCain 8.5% of his income(not including his wifes gifts.

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Posted by: HOORAY BARACK | September 14, 2008 5:46 PM | Report abuse

Republican Party = Every man for himself.

Posted by: Fred | September 14, 2008 2:24 PM


oh contraie Freddy...

I will provide and take care of my family. Government...get off my back.


I am entitled to this, yet i don't want to work.

I deserve that, even though I am not willing to work for it.

Nobody likes me. Everybody is against me wah, wah , waaahhhhhhhh

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 5:42 PM | Report abuse

Palin has peaked. Her average grade looks like it's below C

Posted by: nclwtk | September 14, 2008 5:40 PM | Report abuse

I am truly concerned that Palin-McCain might get elected by that part of the American public who have not yet learned the lesson of the last eight years.

Add the very wealthy, and the religiously extreme who are ideologically committed to voting "Conservative", whatever they mean by that. Throw in the fools who value charm and personality more than facts and issues; and readily fall for the substance-less bromides and platitudes (not to mention repeated lies) this totally unqualified person has been taught to memorize and repeat -- and you wind up with a possible majority in the coming election. May God help and preserve the U.S.A if that happens!

Palin = F-. She should not even be admitted to the test!

Posted by: Andrew D. | September 14, 2008 5:32 PM | Report abuse

Hey Tennismom, public opinion is neither universal nor independent.

Some people like Palin and don't want her to be VP because they realize that as likable as she may be, she isn't nearly ready and would fail miserably. She would be first in line to be president should anything happen to McCain; and he would be the oldest newly elected president in our history - too big of a risk. She doesn't understand the fundamentals of our federal government. She doesn't need more experience for experience sake, she needs the experience to get the understanding, knowledge, insights, and wisdom that a president should have to keep our country safe, economically successful, and morally upright. She has none of that. Maybe she could one day but that day isn't now and I doubt if it'll be 4 months from now.

Posted by: Peninsula Matt | September 14, 2008 5:13 PM | Report abuse

Zephyr wrote:

Apparently, America has generally divided into Two camps: 'Republicans' most of whom try to practice Christian principles. And 'Democrats' who subscribe to and practice anti-Christian principles of; Hate, Anger, Deceit, Lying, Lawlessness...

Oh, Zephyr, this is satire, right?

You made my day with your hilarious albeit delusional diatribe sanctifying "Christian-Republicans" like DICK Cheney who were the original inventors of Rovain politics of "Hate, Anger, Deceit, Lying, Lawlessness..."

Palin has been exposed as another intolerant white evangelical liar. It this the Republican ideal of "Christian prinicples"?
I'm sure Jesus is so proud of you all.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 5:09 PM | Report abuse


Voted one of the Nation's Top 5 Blogs for the 2008 Election:


Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 5:03 PM | Report abuse

Palin will fit right in with the Bush legacy of political retribution for its enemies a la Karl Rove's "Justice" Department firing US Attorneys:

Posted by: Roy | September 14, 2008 5:00 PM | Report abuse

F = Failure

She does not understand foreign policy, the economy, the federal budget, the Iraq war,... nothing! She doesn't even seem interested in understanding these things or curious about why someone might have a different perspective than she does.

She needs to go back to Alaska, be governor for the rest of this term plus another and then spend some time in the US Senate. maybe then she'd have enough to be president

Posted by: Peninsula Matt | September 14, 2008 4:50 PM | Report abuse

You all are doing it again!!!

Have you not learned to not attack Governor Palin? This country generally likes her, but they are now truly in love because the MSM keeps bashing her.

Why have these questions not been asked of Barack Obama.

What is his experience, exactly, that leads him to think he could be president?

She is not running for president, but VP.

No Obama, no way, no how. He's a fraud.

Posted by: tennismom | September 14, 2008 4:47 PM | Report abuse

To Zephr, the only one lying and running a disgracefully dishonorable campaign is John S. McCain. He is practicing and his followers are being anything but Christian in the lies and smears they are perpetuating against Obama. If you dont' agree on policy fine, but to make up lies and slander him is a completely false and dishonorable way to win an election.

Shame on him.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Started off considering a C or B, then Palin blew it by talking about going to war with Russia.

Does Palin really understand the importance of using judgement when opening her mouth? Her shoot & skin a moose mentality does not work in international relations and she has a casual indifference to actually going to war.

I couldn't believe that Charlie let that moment pass - then I realized that he was well aware of the potential dangers of her comments.

It is, in my opinion, important that McCain cleans up that mess before it gets worse. Palin got a pass from Charlie, but I believe that the public has a right to know how she will avoid nuclear war if she and John do go to war with Russia.

Clearly an F when she opened her mouth and spoke her won words. Maybe a B for speaking her speech writers' words.

Posted by: Ken | September 14, 2008 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Some commentors seem to see any questioning of their diva as 'hate'.

We have every right to ask ALOT of pretty detailed questions about the record, actions, friends, family and values of any person running for Pres or VP.

And 2nd, yours is not the version of Christianity. Even though you shout the loudest, you and your self-righteous cohort. Sick of your know-it-all attitudes, judgementalism, factless 'science' opinions, self appreciation, and group think.

I really hope the door doesnt' hit you on the way out.

Maybe you can start a Republican defense fund (RDF) to hire some lawyers to sue people who call Republicans bad names. Waah!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Seriously, on which policies is she different from Bush?

We can all see she is better looking than 99% of us, but that is not what the job requires. Or is it?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 4:19 PM | Report abuse

I continue to be amazed by the anger and arrogance of so many who continuously espouse lies and hate of Sarah Palin... Unabashed hate for anyone who is not a Liberal.

Apparently, America has generally divided into Two camps: 'Republicans' most of whom try to practice Christian principles. And 'Democrats' who subscribe to and practice anti-Christian principles of; Hate, Anger, Deceit, Lying, Lawlessness...

Reread the Comments. It is very obvious!

Posted by: Zephyr | September 14, 2008 4:19 PM | Report abuse


I think it is a joke that she had to have the interview broken into three parts so that she could be coached and pumped full of information between segments. The only thing she does well is give an air of confidence. IT is hard to sit there spinning such crap and come across without being a complete joke so I give her a D.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 4:00 PM | Report abuse

What I find interesting is that people actually think that Gibson was hard on her. Did those people watch the O'Reilly interview with Obama? Wasn't that interveiw, like all interview's edited?

As far as the question of the "Bush Doctrine" the easy response would have been, which portion of the Bush Doctrine are you referring to instead of looking befuddled and trying to answer with preprogramed answers.

It's a bit scary to read the comments that give her high scores on this interview due to the fact that she just recently became a Vice Presidential candidate. Why has that become acceptable. Shouldn't knowledge and the ability to think critically be a requirement.

Why is it that mediocrity is being accepted and even celebrated, have the standard of higher political office declined that much?

Posted by: wally | September 14, 2008 3:45 PM | Report abuse


Posted by: pr7z | September 14, 2008 3:45 PM | Report abuse

I couldn't stomach watching all of her interview---but the part I saw would be an F minus. I can't believe the press has let pass the response that we "perhaps so" might have to go to war with Russia. Do you know what that means? Nuclear weapons!
What is she thinking and what the hell are you thinking not to call her on it.

Posted by: C. Berger | September 14, 2008 3:39 PM | Report abuse


Just a note for all those who think McCain's pick for V.P. isn't all that important. Assuming McCain is elected to two terms he'll be 80 by the time he leaves the White House. According to insurance companies, the chance of a healthy 72 year old man dying before he reaches 80 years old is one in three. This information along with McCain's run in with cancer makes his pick for V.P. the most likely ever to become President due to the President's death.

I'm terrified Palin may become President. She was evasive or uninformed throughout the entire interview and is even more neoconservative than Bush.

Posted by: Chuck | September 14, 2008 3:34 PM | Report abuse

I could have done a better job answering those questions and I have never governed a day in my life. I give her a double FF.

Posted by: Shedrick Grimsley | September 14, 2008 3:31 PM | Report abuse

To a political junkie like myself, the Palin interview was a flop. She didn't offer any compelling vision for the country. And I think the "Bush Doctorine" question illustrates this very well. A question as vague as that is a slow pitch down the center, what any competant politician would do is turn it into a chance to say what they believe in. For instance; talk about how she believes in national security but (hopefully) pay lip service towards being different then Bush. But Palin didn't have anything to say which was... troublesome.

However, most Americans aren't political junkies. Mostly I think it's about impressions. Towards her supporters, she maintained her little miss Alaska image, which they like. Those of us who don't like her were howling in rage at the superficiality of it all. But what I didn't see was anything that would change the game among undecided voters and those who were initially warm to Palin but might change their minds as they learn more about her. There wasn't much to turn such voters off, but Palin didn't do much to impress them. She can slide for a while, but the clock is ticking before they become disappointed. This was, in essence, a wasted opportunity.

Final grade: C-

Posted by: John | September 14, 2008 3:20 PM | Report abuse

B/C-international affairs. After reading the transcript of the interview and seeing ABC left out some important parts..."wants to promote diplomacy with Russia" I give her a B-

I think people need to go to youtube and see her convention speech again.
1. She said she put the plane on Ebay
2. She did get rid of some "old boy" Republicans.
3. She never said she was in Iraq...but did mention Kuwait
4. She did raise taxes on the oil industry and gave the revenue back to the Alaskan people.
5. She did pass a powerful ethic bill.
6. She did say no to the "bridge to nowhere"....she never said she didn't take Federal money to improve infrastructure in her state.

Also, FYI although she is pro-life, she stopped the Alaskan legislature from passing a law to stop abortions. She did the same for gays.

She believes creationism should be debated along with evolution in school.

Although she is considered a stong conservative, her record as governor as leaned more towards being a centralist.

She seems to be a strong no-nonsense type of leader. I hope if she and McCain are elected, he will put her in charge of lowering excess waste in our government. She should also be in charge of working on energy alternatives by increasing our own oil production so we can focus on new types of energy so we won't be dependent on foreign oil.

I think she is definitely qualified to be a vice president and she has my support 100 pct.

Posted by: concerned08 | September 14, 2008 3:15 PM | Report abuse

Think about it---we are putting the focus on the wrong person. Palin is just a pawn for the Republican Party. She is being used as a distraction and she is doing that very well. The real problem is McCain, what does it say about him and his judgement to have such an idiot as his VP just a breath away from being President. We all know how desperate the Rep. Party is to hold onto the White House. Hell, they will eat their young to keep that seat. If I were McCain I would watch my step going down steps infront of Palin. We all know that the Conservative Right Wing is not fond of McCain, but they love Palin. What does it say about McCain that he would have her as his VP with the state of this country being what it is. That we are at war with two countries and she knows nothing. She ran a state that had more moose than people and for that she had to hire outside help. Why keep dwelling on Palin when she is not the one at the top of the ticket. We need to force the news media to get back on the real issues at hand. This is a Presidental election. This is the most important election that we will ever face and it has long reaching ramifications. How can anyone vote McCain with the way he has run his campagin filled with lies, distortions, and distracations isn't that an indication of how he will run the country. McCain is abusing all of us with all these distractions. and he is looking down his nose at us thinking that we all all blind, stupid sheep. We better wake up before it is too late.

Posted by: cokomo | September 14, 2008 3:11 PM | Report abuse

To: the poster who identified himself as "White, working class males for Obama": Terrific post, right on the mark. Thanks.

Would that the rest of the country were getting so wised up as you.

By the way, I voted for ALL the Republican presidential candidates between 1980 and 2000. God, do I ever regret and repent my vote for GWB ("a uniter, not a divider") in 2000. Never again! (I am, by the way, a white male.)

I would have gladly voted for McCain in 2000. But now I see that he has sold his soul to the devil (that is, to Bush, Rove, and Cheney), and stuck this horrible ditz Palen onto his ticket as a come-on to all the clueless white women and bigoted white men who are out there--so many representative samples of which are posting on this and similar blogs.

There is no other sane and safe choice for this country now than to rally behind Barack Obama and Joe Biden. We are heading into very perilous waters, internationally and economically. We just CANNOT afford to give the Cheney/Rove/Bush crowd another four years of power. In the name of God, people, wake up to what's going on.

Posted by: jm917 | September 14, 2008 2:41 PM | Report abuse

We all knew she failed. We all knew that she would. That girl has no idea of what is going on. If she had run a big state such as New York with all its many problems then I would say she might be capable of doing something. But she ran a state that has more moose than people and for that she had to hire help. People say they need to know more about Obama before they can vote for him. Well this girl just came out of no where and no one ever heard of her before, couldn't even pronounce her name. Where Obama has been out there for the last 20 months taking and answering questions, telling us what he wants to do and how he will do it. Tellling us what he believes in and stands for yet people are ready to go to hell behind Palin and that is where we will be going if McCain and this idiot is elected. What have I missed about her? She openly lies and distorts the truth, she is up on charges for abuse of power and she is being sued behind her ethics. She said that she would be open to any investigation, now she is crying executive priviledge. Sounds like Bush & Cheneny. She is ready to start a war at a drop of a hat. She takes earmarks, but with excuses behind them. How is she not more like Bush? Why can't people see past this awful distracation. She even used 911 and her son being deployed to Iraq for policitical gain. Her son was not being deployed Sept 11th he does not leave until next month. She cries foul yet throws a lot of foul balls. She claims to be a victim all the time when she is confronted with questions that she don't want to answer, but needs to. I just don't get it. Everyone knows what they will be getting with the Republicans back in power yet they are so gong ho to travel that same path again. My only conclusion is that they would rather suffer and lose all they worked for and for the US to be in a never ending war while starting new ones, having their children drafted than to have to vote for a Black man that will bring about a better America.

Posted by: cokomo2 | September 14, 2008 2:41 PM | Report abuse

Republican Party = Every man for himself.

Posted by: Fred | September 14, 2008 2:24 PM | Report abuse

God knows why the media, including you Chris, encourage us, the citizens, to accept poor candidates like Gov. Palin. It is NOT enough to simply "survive" an interview. As a citizen I actually expect the candidates to be ready--not simply confident of their abilities--and knowledgeable about the world. Why should we settle for a below average person as the VP? A grade of D.

Posted by: Zoe | September 14, 2008 2:04 PM | Report abuse

I give her an F across the board. I give Gibson a D for asking only a few really searching questions and for generally failing to follow up. I give ABC News and the McCain campaign an F- for setting up this kind of rigidly controlled interview, for editing the results, and for (so far) blocking any other reporters (I don't count a partisan hack like Hannity) from access to her. Is this going to continue until the election?

Think about this, folks: If McCain and Palin are elected, Palin will fit right into the existing Office of the Vice President. There sit David Addington (who should be headed for trial as a war criminal) and the rest of Cheney's neo-con conspiracy. And of course Big Dick will be behind the scenes, pulling every wire.

Palin as VP means putting lipstick and a skirt on Dick Cheney. Yeah, she's better looking, and she can shoot better. (Any takers for moose-hunting vice-presidential jaunts to the wilds of Alaska?) But through her Cheney will continue to rule the roost in the executive branch, while an increasingly senile McCain putters around behind his false face.

Not will the country, if it is insane enough to elect McCain/Palin in November, be putting this ignoramus one heartbeat away from the presidency; it will also be entrenching Dick Cheney at the real controls.

God help this nation!

Posted by: jm917 | September 14, 2008 2:02 PM | Report abuse

Key West is 90 miles from Cuba. According to the Palin Doctrine, that makes former residents Jimmy Buffet and me experts in foreign policy. I'm ready for questions anytime Jimmy Buffet is.

Posted by: Elizabeth | September 14, 2008 2:02 PM | Report abuse

Palin a B for surving the snarling Gibson who, if he knew, there is no one "Bush Doctrine" (maybe he can be briefed by Charles Krauthammer next time). Every time Sarah is on TV ratings go up but respect for the media goes down. Palin will be a fine VP--so long as she ignores the elitist media and keeps in touch with real America, where tough decisions are made every day.

Posted by: NotaWPelitist | September 14, 2008 2:00 PM | Report abuse

We have found what we believe to be an excerpt from Palin's pre-interview cheat sheet. She hid it in her bee hive hairdo.

* * * * *

Vice president: That's me. I get to be Pres if Pres kicks over.

Obama: The colored guy. Don't say any racial slurs.

Biden: The white guy.

Iran: The country we haven't invaded.

Iraq: The country we have.

Michelle: The colored guy's wife. Claim fistbump is terrorist act.

Bridge to Nowhere: Say I was against it when I actually was for it and had a t-shirt made up to that effect.

History: Man walked with dinosaurs. If you don't know that, phooey for you.

Palin doctrine: Lock and load, especially with the Commies on Russia.

Wave to imaginary off-camera fans, of which there are none. Hillary taught me that.

Answer all 15 of my pending controversies with either: that's a personal matter or national security.

Buchanan doctrine: Mud people, lookout.

Charlie Gibson: Make goo-goo eyes at Charlie and call him Charlie no less than 20 times. Direct efforts to exciting "little Charlie."

Mention Hillary if you can, even though you disagree with her and think she's a whining, bi--h. Will help with Billie Jean King crowd.

If it gets too tough, ask to leave to powder your nose.


Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 1:55 PM | Report abuse

I think the phrase is "moose in the headlights."

Posted by: Blue in NH | September 14, 2008 1:40 PM | Report abuse

I like Palin very much (and will likely vote for her) -- but she gets a "D" at best.

The only thing positive I can say it that she's got a lot of upside.

Posted by: info | September 14, 2008 1:40 PM | Report abuse

The registrar's office said I can re-do Palin's and Gibson's grades, and so:

Palin: No credit. You have embarrassed your country and yourself. Contact registrar's office about re-registering in 2012 after two years in junior college.

Gibson: Disqualified by order of the Honors Code Committee. Lifetime ban from any future legitimate journalistic activity. (Note: Gibson was already on probation for asking repeated questions about estate taxes relating to his (Gibson's) personal financial situation during the O-HRC debate on ABC and generally for being a corporate tool and a fool.)

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 1:39 PM | Report abuse

I really like Charles Gibson,always have.
I did think on this Interview he was
very tough on her.He did not Interview McCain,Biden or Obama, as tough.He has
always seemed fair to me,so I was taken aback by that.I thought she handled herself
very well.Was she stellar,no not on the
Gibson Interview(s).Although,she seemed
tired on the first part(time changes,jet lag,etc)may have impacted that.

Posted by: Martin | September 14, 2008 1:37 PM | Report abuse

OK, give her a pass on the Bush Doctrine question, but the rest of the questions on international issues were simple and straight forward. Her answers were all platitudes wraped in the flag, one size fit all generalizations. She isn't hiding her opinions, she has none,not to many international events crop up in Wasilla or Juno for that matter. Alaska's population can be fitted into a big Walmart.

Posted by: kaycwagner | September 14, 2008 12:55 PM | Report abuse

The McCain campaign is desperate to change the subject. False controversy takes the emphasis away from a candidate who was so uninspiring that only 20% of his supporters were enthusiastic about him. Tiny crowds of bored people were the norm for McCain. Palin was selected by the same folks who brought us a "compassionate conservative" from Texas, who, like Palin, has turned out to be anything but what they sold.
She brought home more earmarks per person than any other state, 10 times higher rate than Illinois.

Meanwhile, hard working Americans are slipping into the mud in this economy. Our real incomes have dropped while everything costs more. Can you tell me one thing McCain has done to help uninsured Americans get health care? Can you tell me what McCain has done over the last 26 years that will help us transition to a renewable energy economy? McCain agrees that global warming is influenced by the burning of fossil fuels. But you know what his solution is, you heard it at the convention: Drill, Baby, Drill.

Drilling. That was the answer in the 1970's, 1980's, 1990's and most of the first decade of the new century. Don't you think it's time we actually did something different?

Barack Obama authorized incentives for renewable, green energy in this country. Barack Obama authorized a program to help 150,000 people in Illinois get access to affordable healthcare, and he voted to cover uninsured children in the CHIP program. Barack Obama will cut taxes for 95% of American working families, and everyone making less than $250,00 will see large decreases in the taxes they pay across the board: Payroll, income, capital gains taxes, etc. will decrease for hard working people and we will be able to begin to get ahead once more.

McCain voted against healthcare for children. McCain voted against renewable energy. But McCain emphatically supports tax cuts for the wealthiest 1%- the biggest rate cut going to those who make over 2.5 million dollars a year.

Barack Obama will lower taxes for those making less than $250,000 per year to the lowest levels in 50 years. Those making more will be taxed at the same rate they paid in the Reagan years. Senior citizens making less than $50,000 will pay NO TAXES under Barack Obama.

Barack Obama: Lowest tax rates for working families in the last 50 years, affordable healthcare for the uninsured, clean renewable domestic energy.

McCain wants to continue the Bush policies in each of these areas.

And I still haven't heard anyone ask McCain how he plans to pay for continuing Bush's failed policies. Perhaps China still has some money to lend.....

Posted by: OkieMom | September 14, 2008 12:51 PM | Report abuse

Can any one explain me how Sarah Palin is diffrent from George Bush?

Posted by: Sohail | September 14, 2008 12:44 PM | Report abuse

Can someone explain to me how drilling for more domestic oil to put on the world market will lead us to energy independence?

I don't see how that would work.

Posted by: JR | September 14, 2008 12:44 PM | Report abuse

All she did was reinforce the lies she has told for years and the new lies from McCain.

FACT: If you tell a lie often enough the people will believe the lie.

She DID NOT sell that plane for a profit on eBay!! It was sold by a broker for a 680,000.00 loss FACT!!

She DID TAKE THE MONEY for the bridge to nowhere and used it for other projects she preferred, like paying for the land to build a hockey rink, roads to nowhere and sewers. SHE DID TAKE THE MONEY!!!

The cleaning out She clams was the old boys network...They were Democrats who did not vote for her!!!

She put Republican YES men in their place!!

She DID fire the old lady who ran the library for NOT DESTROYING BOOK Palin did not like, but had to hire her back by public pressure. She DID cut the library budget in retaliation.

She DID hire an administrative assistant to do the day to day duties of the mayor so she could attend OIL COMPANY meetings and NOT REPRESENT the people of her small town!

She DID hire lobbyists to get money for her town!!

She DID try to FIRE the public safety official for NOT firing her Brother in-law!!

She is not good for Alaska and she is definitely NOT GOOD for AMERICA!!!

She is a FAKE and a LIAR!!

Posted by: Zandor | September 14, 2008 12:29 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin credentials:
-Graduated Idaho college(Journalism degree).
-Mayor of Wasilla(pop 5500(Budget $6,000-53 employees,won with 58% of votes:616), from 1996 to 2002, represents the bulk of her political experience.
Mayor:-approved funds to upgrade the public well
-issuing a restaurant permit and taking up a measure forbidding residents from operating bed-and-breakfasts in their homes. After a lively debate, the bed-and-breakfast measure lost, 4 to 1.
-Palin limited her duties further by hiring a deputy administrator to handle much of the town's day-to-day management. Her top achievement as mayor was the construction of an ice rink, a project that landed in the courts and cost the city more than expected.
-Fires a librarian.
-Rehires librarian after public outcry.
-In September 2002, she presided over her last City Council meeting. The council took up an ordinance to ban sex shops.
-Elected Governor of Alaska in 2006.
-sold a jet from previous from administration on EBAY.
-promoted oil and natural gas resource development in Alaska.
-while initially supporting $223 million in federal funding for the "Bridge to Nowhere", Palin backed off when Alaska's share of the cost increased. Alaska did not return any of the $442 million to the federal government

Posted by: BLUTO | September 14, 2008 12:18 PM | Report abuse

Obama's accomplishments:
-Graduated with a law degree(magna cum laude) from Harvard in 1991.
-First African-American president of the Harvard Law Review.
-Civil rights lawyer teaching constitutional law.
-Illinois State Senate, where he served for eight years.
-Illonois state senate:
-help working families get ahead by creating programs like the state Earned Income Tax Credit, which in three years provided over $100 million in tax cuts to families across the state.
-Pushed through an expansion of early childhood education.
-After a number of inmates on death row were found innocent, Senator Obama worked with law enforcement officials to require the videotaping of interrogations and confessions in all capital cases.

-In 2004, he became the third African American since Reconstruction to be elected to the U.S. Senate.
U.S. Sentate:
-His first law was passed with Republican Tom Coburn, a measure to rebuild trust in government by allowing every American to go online and see how and where every dime of their tax dollars is spent.
-Hada lead voice in championing ethics reform that would root out Jack Abramoff-style corruption in Congress.
-As a member of the Veterans' Affairs Committee, Senator Obama has fought to help Illinois veterans get the disability pay they were promised, while working to prepare the VA for the return of the thousands of veterans who will need care after Iraq and Afghanistan.
-Recognizing the terrorist threat posed by weapons of mass destruction, he traveled to Russia with Republican Dick Lugar to begin a new generation of non-proliferation efforts designed to find and secure deadly weapons around the world.
-knowing the threat we face to our economy and our security from America's addiction to oil, he's working to bring auto companies, unions, farmers, businesses and politicians of both parties together to promote the greater use of alternative fuels and higher fuel standards in our cars.

Posted by: BLUTO | September 14, 2008 12:16 PM | Report abuse

I guess if you have low expectations on substance for a candidate (as with George Bush), then you would give her an A. If you have high expectations for the VP candidate, she gets an F. (Why didn't McCain pick a GOP women who would be acutally qualified? There are a number of them out there.) If the unthinkable happens and McCain is elected, I can only suppose he will "Dan Quayle" her for his term.

Posted by: Lynne | September 14, 2008 11:52 AM | Report abuse

Oh, my heart is all a-flutter with fluffy, insubstantial sentiment. I dress in women's clothing every day and wait at the truck stop to meet new friends! My fondest wish is to meet Sen. Larry Craig in the mens' room, or any of the other closeted Republican hypocrites, and offer myself in joyful service to him. Bareback!

Posted by: 37th & O Street | September 14, 2008 11:50 AM | Report abuse

I thought her answers were up to par. I think her biggest weakness in the interview is that she often seemed uncomfortable, like she knew the missiles would be flying but didn't know from which direction. A more relaxed Palin would have been more effective.

I noticed that portions of her answers were edited out at times, as I saw different clips of the same interview. The media does the public a great disservice when they do that. It's hard to make a fair judgment when you don't get to hear the full answer.

Also, I couldn't find any official "Bush Doctrine", however, after searching for it on the internet I did find many definitions by the media of what the so-called "Bush Doctrine" is. Charlie should have been more clear about the "Bush Doctrine" question.

As far as my judgment on Palin, her interview with Gibson wasn't disastrous, but it wasn't a home-run either. I'll be sure to tune in for her debate and more interviews before I make a final judgment. Either way, although I take the VP candidates into consideration,it's certainly not the only or biggest factor for me when I choose which candidate I will vote for.

Posted by: Plebes | September 14, 2008 11:33 AM | Report abuse

Not to mess things up with facts but: In the latest electoral count polls, Obama has 273. That count assumes he loses both Ohio and Virginia, which is possible but not likely.

Final poll, the actual vote, most agree, will turn on whether the media starts reporting the news on Palin, the race factor, and the effectiveness of aggressive voter suppression strategies, particularly in Ohio.

Please, keep attacking Palin.

The more they do, the more McCain goes ahead.

Posted by: Obama2012 | September 14, 2008 10:34 AM

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 11:23 AM | Report abuse

I give her an "F" just for living in Alaska so many years. All you find in Alaska are morons, and misfit. They are 47 as the dumbest state in the union. Her home town is know for all the meth labs. They still do moonshining. I once rented a house to a family from Alaska and they were nothing but trash who wrecked the house. I had to actually have them removed by the sheriff. Alaskans are just trash plain and simple. Did you see the interview with her moron father, He just moved the family to the middle of nowhere because he liked to hunt and fish. Forget about making a living or thinking about what was best to the family. Just a self centered bum and if the wife doesn't want to come then get lost. This whole family are just backwoods trash. Lets not even talk about corruption. Alaska is the most corrupt state in the country. She , it is now coming out she was nothing more then a small time corrupt politician. Dime a dozen..

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 11:18 AM | Report abuse

When Palin willing to go to war with russia,shows she is psycotic.Willing to end the world,cause I can push the button mentality.Don't forget Russia still has 8000 nuclear missiles heads. Now thanks to Bush, oil money to polish them. McCain @ Palin are not tightly wrap.One been in prison to long the other cut to many moose throats.

Posted by: sunnyday1 | September 14, 2008 11:17 AM | Report abuse


Palin: "Incomplete. Please see me. Signed, Principal"

Gibson: "F." You are a disgrace to the profession. You knew you were chosen because you are not even remotely capable of a hard-news interview yet you accepted the Palin assignment anyway. Our local folks on the cable access channel could have done better.

For these critically importnant interviews, once we had Edward R. Murrow, Lawrence Spivak, Huntley and Brinkley, Walter Cronkite, Howard K. Smith, Dan Rather, Bernard Shaw, and David Susskind, outstanding reporters all.

Now we have just you, Charlie Gibson. Maybe Palin's right and the rapture is around the corner...


Posted by: Captain America | September 14, 2008 11:15 AM | Report abuse

When she talks about Russia and foreign policy?

ABC edited out the majority of her responses:

Posted by: Buckdharma | September 14, 2008 11:03 AM | Report abuse

F too good. That woman has no clue what she is talking about when talks about Russia and foreign policy.

Posted by: Jarda | September 14, 2008 10:37 AM | Report abuse

The idiots abound. "As a former professor..."
Ad nauseum. Palin gets a solid A-.

She is what America wants, and needs. Mature bipartisan voters are looking for real change, and nothing comes closer.

Come now, former professors (real and imagined), expound on how Bobby Kennedy could have 11 kids and not be labeled a "bad" father.

Explain how, decades of sonograms later, any caring human being can claim that abortion is not murder?

Please explain how "human rights" can mean a gay marriage in a military chapel, and not life for a baby?

And when you finish a "nuanced" (self-deluding) explanation, take a look at your candidate's record. Even in academia, he did not publish.

He pontificated and offered wishy-washy, simplistic, and sophmoric answers to every question.

Palin nailed it when she intimated that not picking Hillary, out of spite, sexism, and racism, may have cost "the One" his most cherished goal.

And McCain was spot on to pick a real person, with real views, and real accomplishments, to represent the real American public.

You can disagree with her on many issues. My wife and I don't mindlessly chose the same point on everything. I pity the couple, perhaps one of those pastel, androgynous sets, that does.

And, I da*n sure would rather have a pit bull hockey Mom, or a Steel Magnolia, or Anne Rice or Hillary, as President, than the wimpish One.

He's talk radio: All talk, all the time.

Shut up Obama. Go back to your wealthy buds in Hyde Park and think of other ways to lament the "evil" evangelicals, the Protestants, the real Catholics, the working class, and the poor blacks who built the country. In order that the spoiled child of a pseudo-intellectual could come to try to make us a Third World Country under a socialist government.

We would have voted for Hillary. And even for you as VP. But, you stuck the dagger in her back, and Palin is payback.

Posted by: Palin is Real, Flaws and All | September 14, 2008 10:36 AM | Report abuse

Please, keep attacking Palin.

The more they do, the more McCain goes ahead.

Posted by: Obama2012 | September 14, 2008 10:34 AM | Report abuse

In response to M Garcia at 9.48:

No, you are wrong. Foreigners love Bush and Republican policies. Why?

1) Bush free trade policies exported hundreds of thousands of American manufacturing jobs to China, India, Mexico and many other poor developing countries. In return, these countries supply America with cheap goods and reap billions of dollars in profits. They don't mind to keep lending billions to America to support such profitable trade as long as your American Dollar don't go bankrupt!

2) The Middle Eastern Countries and other oil rich countries like Iran, Venezuela, Russia LOVES Bush for keeping Americans dependent on oil. As the biggest oil consumers in the world, America's continuing hunger for oil help to keep the world oil prices high and keep these countries rich enough to stand against America. Oh, if America elects Obama who wants to invest Billions in developing alternative sources of energy, guess what will happen to oil prices and these oil tsars? Trust me, they love Bush and will love McCain more and Sarah ... even MORE!!! Alaska is a oil producing economy just like them.

3) Islamist Terrorists like Al Qaeda likes Bush. In fact, they can't stop thanking him for invading and occupying Iraq. You see, despite some Americans think all Muslims are terrorists, the truth is most Muslims are peaceful people who want to live a normal and productive life. But, when Americans, a Western and Christian force, bombs and kills their fellow muslims and occupying an Islamic country, they became desperate out of sufferings for losing their home, family and lives and vengeful out of anger. Wow, don't you think the real Islamic Terrorists will have a field day recruiting these angry and hopeless people to die for their evil deeds?

Well, I can go on and on but I think that's enough for now.

So, you are wrong if you think all foreigners hate Bush, McBush, McPalin and Republican policies.

Posted by: James C | September 14, 2008 10:34 AM | Report abuse

Palin gets an F.

Her answers were not meaningful, they were mostly talking points and platitudes. She exhibited little or no understanding or interest in issues. If the way she conducted her interview with Charlie Palin is any indication, bad things will happen if she is ever responsible for negotiating with Vladimir Putin, Hu Jintao, or other leaders whose interests do not coincide with our own.

There is a big problem with the expectations game which explains the Bs Cs and Ds that Ms. Palin has been awarded. Instead of grading candidates on an absolute scale they are graded against what we think they can achieve. This is like grading a student based on what we think they should get instead of grading them on what they know.

Suppose you have a student who regularly scores 2/10 on quizzes. It is reasonable to expect that student to score about 20% of the final exam. If the student scores 40% he has doubled his average, clearly quite an achievement. By the political grading formula he would receive an A. Surely it is not in our best interest to have leaders who can improve their scores from 20% to 40% rather than those who consistently score in the 75%-85% range.

So Palin gets an F. Maybe next time she will actually say something, but until then she gets an F.

Posted by: Greg | September 14, 2008 10:28 AM | Report abuse


I gotta a btter idea;

let's first evelaute Charlie Gibson and give him a grade.

Let's compare Gibson's interview with Obama and Gibson's interview with Palin.

#1 to Obama
Your wife Michelle, tells us why you love her so much?

#1 to Palin
Are you prepared to go to war with Russia over their Invasion into Georgia.

#2 to Obama
Your Father left you ar age 10. How did that make you feel?

#2 to Palin
Do you really think your qualified for this job?

#3 to Obama
Tell us why you went to Chicago to help the people of that City

#3 to Palin
Do you think Isarael has the right to attack Iran?

Go back and read the transcrpits.

Gibson gets an "F"

What another weenie.

we have got all the leftist dweebs "reporters" running around saying where's my interview, wha wha wha...

I could care less what these left wing nut reporters think. 75% of Rassmussen polled Americans agree the media has thrown in the towel for Obama.

I dont care what the new york times thinks.

I use the washington post to wipe the Amorall off my tires and the LA Times for my wife's cat's litter box.

Screw those leftist media thinks. There just there to try and do their own little hit job to try and show their readers how smart they are.

screw them.

go around them with alternative media and methods.

I wouldn't get one more interview.

Gibson F

Palin A+

Posted by: dano | September 14, 2008 10:27 AM | Report abuse

Try airing the ENTIRE interview so that we hear it ALL ourselves instead of piece mealing it so that we only get the media slant!!

Posted by: GP | September 14, 2008 10:26 AM | Report abuse


If her report card was broken into sections, she would get an A for mentioning Charlie Gibson's first name about 60 times during the interview.
She didn't know the Bush Doctrine, looked like a typical politician when ducking and dodging on the Bridge to Nowhere questions, came out against a ban on semi-automatic assualt weapons(fairly fringe position), against embryonic stem cell research, got very defensive and tense when talking about "Troopergate", and just looked way too scripted for a national TV interview.
Charlie Gibson did a great job. He deserves a A+ for his effort and a raise from ABC's top brass.

Posted by: Mike | September 14, 2008 10:25 AM | Report abuse

she should stay ahockey mom and let the smart people (obama) handle the hard issues

Posted by: | September 14, 2008 10:24 AM | Report abuse

B for presentation
D for substance

Very much like George Bush in 2000.

Posted by: Mary B. | September 14, 2008 10:10 AM | Report abuse

If you call being caught out on a bunch of lies and demonstrating her complete unfamiliarity with both domestic and foreign policy unscathed, then I have a Bridge to Nowhere to sell you.

This writer is part of the Right Wing Brigades who are determined to keep control of our government so that they can continue to destroy our country. They are wolves in sheep's clothing.

Posted by: Mary | September 14, 2008 10:08 AM | Report abuse

My say is too Alec MacGillis and people like him before you have the right too to about her why don't you look in your closet full of garbage.Just you might remember about who obama has all around him like the Clintons how can we the people trust someone that we no and by the way is a proven fact was cheating and lying to all of us.Whats that old saying in Birds of a feather flock togather so in obama's case what does that say for him that he is going to cheat and lie too can we the people satand for this no more I say give her and A and stand up for whats right for all of us not more cheating and lies good day to the people Al

Posted by: Al | September 14, 2008 10:01 AM | Report abuse


It's painfully obvious that Palin has little to no idea of what's going on in the world. She can't stray from the scripted path very well...almost like George W. Bush.

She'd better study up before the debate...she won't be allowed to take her little index cards with her.

Posted by: Reston | September 14, 2008 10:00 AM | Report abuse

McCain picked Palin to help him win, after that she is useless to him. They'd probably tell her and hubby to stay pregnant for the next 4 years.

The McCain-Palin strategy right now seems to be to act like some other entity other than that party they are connected with is to blame for the past 8 years. To the point where only a small percentage of the RNC vendors even sold Bush/Cheney memorabilia. Gosh, when he was at the RNC shouting about the failures of Washington I kept thinking WHO IS HE TALKING TO? I think the crowd was even confused.

P.S. White, working-class American males for Obama..YOU ROCK!

Posted by: Ginny7 | September 14, 2008 9:58 AM | Report abuse

I guess I am not suprised that ABC 20/20 Edited the Sarah Palin Interview.

The link has the full transcript with the parts left out in Bold and Underlined

I dont know if the BOR BHO interview was edited, but I would hope that all of these interviews would be un edited so we the American People can judge the content and not have a news department decide how they want to spin it

Posted by: the truth | September 14, 2008 9:55 AM | Report abuse

Palin: Not ready for prime time ...

There are a lot of calls at three o'clock in the morning that motherhood can prepare one for, but few--if any--are related to the presidency ...

Posted by: Martinedwinandersen | September 14, 2008 9:54 AM | Report abuse

Palin gets a B for her ability to memorize talking points. She gets an D- for serious consideration of the issues and original thoughts. I'd give her a F, except the idea that being able to see Russia from Alaska equates with foreign policy experience might be ludicrous, but it is original.

Posted by: -pamela | September 14, 2008 9:54 AM | Report abuse

I would like Charlie Gibson to interview Barak and ask him these questions...

I know you are going to say "Barak has answered these" but he just hasnt

Ask hard hitting questions about his associaition with William Ayers, a unrepentant terriots
A. ask a about 1995 campaign event at the home of Ayers and his wife, fellow former terrorist Bernardine Dohrn

B. Ask about when Obama and Ayers voted to give $75,000 to Rashid Khalidi, a Yasser Arafat protege in the PLO, during their tenure with the Woods Foundation.

C. Ask about the Chicago Annenberg Challenege which he and Bill Ayers were on the board together and ask them what they did with the $110 million dollars and the improvements not made in Chicago schools..

There is 20 years of connection with Bill Ayers, a unrepentant terrorist and Senator Barak Obama

This ALONE SHOULD DISQUALIFY him in the minds of the american voters...

Obama's answer to Bill O'Reilly that he knows thousands of People is rediculous... To borrow a line from BHO - "They must think your stupid"

Ask about Jeremiah Wright... DO you really believe that he sat in the Church since 1992 and didnt hear those comments? To borrow a line from BHO - "They must think your stupid"

Ask why he decided to dis invite him to give the public invocation at his presidential announcement? (because political advisors knew what kind of man he was)

Ask about Tony Rezko -

1. In 1995, Obama began campaigning for a seat in the Illinois Senate. Among his earliest supporters: Rezko. Two Rezko companies donated a total of $2,000. Obama was elected in 1996 -- representing a district that included 11 of Rezko's 30 low-income housing projects.

2. Rezko's low-income housing empire began crumbling in 2001, when his company stopped making mortgage payments on the old nursing home that had been converted into apartments. The state foreclosed on the building -- which was in Obama's Illinois Senate district.

3. In 2003, Obama announced he was running for the U.S. Senate, and Rezko -- a member of his campaign finance committee -- held a lavish fund-raiser June 27, 2003, at his Wilmette mansion.

4. A few months after Obama became a U.S. senator, he and Rezko's wife, Rita, bought adjacent pieces of property from a doctor in Chicago's Kenwood neighborhood -- a deal that has dogged Obama the last two years. The doctor sold the mansion to Obama for $1.65 million -- $300,000 below the asking price. Rezko's wife paid full price -- $625,000 -- for the adjacent vacant lot. The deals closed in June 2005. Six months later, Obama paid Rezko's wife $104,500 for a strip of her land, so he could have a bigger yard. At the time, it had been widely reported that Tony Rezko was under federal investigation. Questioned later about the timing of the Rezko deal, Obama called it "boneheaded" because people might think the Rezkos had done him a favor.

5. Eight months later -- in October 2006 -- Rezko was indicted on charges he solicited kickbacks from companies seeking state pension business under his friend Gov. Blagojevich. Federal prosecutors maintain that $10,000 from the alleged kickback scheme was donated to Obama's run for the U.S. Senate. Obama has given the money to charity.

Ask about Obama's "community organizer" work with ACORN.. I group indicted on voter fraud charges

Have Charlie asks these questions and doesn't let Obama talk around these questions. Have gibson keep redirecting back to the question "BUT SENATOR, YOU DIDNT ANSWER THE QUESTION

Posted by: gotcha | September 14, 2008 9:53 AM | Report abuse

Obama v. Palin - Comparison of Gibson Interviews


Obama interview:

How does it feel to break a glass ceiling?
How does it feel to “win”?
How does your family feel about your “winning” breaking a glass ceiling?
Who will be your VP?
Should you choose Hillary Clinton as VP?
Will you accept public finance?
What issues is your campaign about?
Will you visit Iraq?
Will you debate McCain at a town hall?
What did you think of your competitor’s [Clinton] speech?

Palin interview:
Do you have enough qualifications for the job you’re seeking? Specifically have you visited foreign countries and met foreign leaders?
Aren’t you conceited to be seeking this high level job?
Questions about foreign policy
-territorial integrity of Georgia
-allowing Georgia and Ukraine to be members of NATO
-NATO treaty
-Iranian nuclear threat
-what to do if Israel attacks Iran
-Al Qaeda motivations
-the Bush Doctrine
-attacking terrorists harbored by Pakistan
Is America fighting a holy war? [misquoted Palin]

Posted by: 20/20 | September 14, 2008 9:52 AM | Report abuse

A few points.. 1.I know that most of the people from overseas will like to have Obama as our president, just like they enjoyed Carter that destroyed our economy and hated Reagan that put them in their place, they don't have any place with deciding or having an opinion of who will be our next president.
2.I voted for Clinton both times and for
Kerry. Contrary to most people here I am an independent.
3. The Palin interview was classified as harsh and overhanded by even Hillary Clinton Campaign Staff.
4. The interview by Mr. Stephanopolus of Mr. Obama was "soft" to the point of the interviewer putting words in the mouth of Mr. Obama when he made a mistake.
The problems we have is not the candidates or their positions. The problem we have is that there is too much partisan attacks like the ones u see in this blog that murk the waters. The press should inform and let us take a decision not try to make a decision for us. People that are not from this country and that will love to see us less competitive should stay out of this process.

Posted by: mgarcia | September 14, 2008 9:48 AM | Report abuse

Once more, as has become so common here, the spin far outweighs the truth. Here we have hacks galore, posing defensive, protective cow manure in the name of partisan politics.

Give her an F for content and a D for execution, if she had mad e even one statement of certitude, she would have gotten a passing grade on execution, but that never happened.

She reminds me more of Bush every day. Which does not bode wqell for the R's, the more people realize Palin's a Bush clone, the less they stare starry-eyed at their new default female messiah.

One thing that is becoming galringly clear from Palin's obfuscations and the public respnse, this campaign isn't about Obama v.McCain, it is about Obama V. Bush, and always has been.

Posted by: JEP | September 14, 2008 9:42 AM | Report abuse

Really, yours is made up, these have gone on record regarding Mccain


"He is a vicious person"
Former representative Charles LeBoutillier R-NY
"An embarrassment to the party"
Arizona GOP state senator Susan Johnson
"There is nothing redeeming about John Mccain...he's a hypocrite"
Former house GOP whip Tom DeLay
"The thought of him being president sends a chill down my spine. He is erratic"
Senator Thad Cochran, R- MS
"Hard headed is one way to say it. Arrogant is another way to say it. It's a quality about him that disturbs me".
Larry Wilkerson, former chief aide to Colin Powell
"What happens if he gets angry in a crisis...? It's the presidents job to negotiate and stay calm. I just don't see that he has that quality".
Former Arizona GOP chairman John Hinz
"His temper would place this country at risk...and the world perhaps in danger. In my mind that should disqualify him"
Former Senator Bob Smith, R-NM
"I decided I didn't want this guy anywhere near a trigger."
Senator Pete Domenici, R-NM

Sarah Palin just starting running for Vice President - the national media is just getting to know her - I can tell you this - I feel 1000% more comfortable with her in command in a National Security crisis as compared to Obama.

Obama has been in war games (scenarios which are run as part of seminars) as legislative training -

Other Senators have commented on how Obama hesitates when asked to make a decision, refuses to order the use of troops (in a war game situation) and will not order the bombs to be dropped (in a war game scenario.)

The Senators who have made public statements expressed doubt that Obama had the ability to handle an actual crisis.

Sarah Palin has the natural ability to lead this nation in a National Security Crisis - the nation can have confidence in her


Posted by: 37th&OStreet | September 13, 2008 6:45 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 9:39 AM | Report abuse

Republicans and strong McCain Palin supporters will give her an "A+". Democrats and Obama Biden supporters will give her an "F". Undecided will tick "unsure". While I, a foreigner from downunder with no horse in this race, simply enjoy laughing at the stupidity of Americans!!! Just when I thought after the Republicans ruined your economy, misled the country into starting a disastrous war in Iraq and through sheer incompetence and poor judgments indirectly caused the death of thousands of Americans in Katrina; Americans will finally say ENOUGH and CHANGE COURSE, I read the latest polls and saw that McCain is now leading simply because he chose Sarah Palin as his VP. Sarah who??? ... Just when I thought my weekly supply of those wonderful BUSH jokes will end next January, you crazy Americans might just introduce BUSH Part II! BTW the all serious charismatic competent inspiring Barack Obama would be boring in terms of entertainment values.

Posted by: James C | September 14, 2008 9:32 AM | Report abuse

Anonymous at 9:22am,

You're exactly right. It's supremely dumb to advertise the name, face, and projected location of a high value target.

There is probably an Al Qaeda advance team traveling from Pakistan to Iraq at this very moment.

Track should have been allowed to serve his country with the protection that relative anonymity affords.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 9:27 AM | Report abuse

I've heard teachers give her a charitable C- for enthusiasm and good presentation. I assume these others must be comparing her to middle school history students. Anyone who thinks she answers these questions adequately should extract the factual (or not) content from the defensive and decorative rhetoric. Pared down, there is very little specific information here. Sarah Palin gets no respect from me until she does her real duty to this country and withdraws from the election. She is unprepared and she must know it. My grade: a charitable D for good presentation.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 9:26 AM | Report abuse

I give her a C-minus. She's got good taste in lipstick. Other than that, F.

Posted by: Miss Hogynist | September 14, 2008 9:25 AM | Report abuse

Ever wonder why Mccain never talks about his son in Iraq? Not because he is being humble, it is because you never identify a solider, who they are with or where they are deployed. For prominent people like politicians it is even more important. It puts everyone in danger who a around that person. You saw the same thing with the prince in Britain they had to actually bring him home.

So now we had this ditz Palin doing a public event around her son and his whole group. Even publishing this:

Private 1st Class Track Palin, is being deployed with xxxxx soldiers of the xxxxx Brigade Combat Team of the xxth Infantry Division. (I remover the info for obvious reasons)

This woman doesn't even no the most basic thing about being in command of anything. So now that everyone has her sons picture and knows where he is going, what happens if we have a nice video of him having his head cut off on camera? Or his whole squad get killed as they are trying to kill or capture him? Think she will be sorry for being so stupid? I actually don't know what to say, this is just short of treason it is so stupid. What next, she is going to tell us where Mccains son is? Maybe some nice infor on our troop strengths and where they are. Good going Palin you pig, you don't have a F'n clue.

Now we get to the worst part. John Mccain knows right off the top of his head you don't do this. Did he do anything to stop it or advise her against it or just plain tell her "DON'T DO THIS IT IS A BAD THING DO"? No he let her put her son and his comrades in added danger because it may help him POLITICLY.

It gets worse, her son is not even going yet. The whole thing was staged on 9/11 as a political stunt to make use of that horrable day. Just when you think Mccain and Palin could not get worse they sink to a new low.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 9:22 AM | Report abuse

"the newly minted Republican vice presidential nominee appears to have survived the her first major television interview relatively unscathed in the eyes of average voters"

What are you basing this on? Who are "average" voters? More importantly, are you going to have your head up your rear for the ENTIRE campaign season, or should we expect more fippant vaguely anti-Obama nonsense such as this?

She looked ill prepared and just plain DUMB. I can see how YOU would relate, but anybody paying attention was appalled.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 9:21 AM | Report abuse

Palin should have done this interview a couple of days after she was nominated. It would be much more forgivable to flub an interview if everyone didn't have the impression she actually spent a couple of weeks in hiding to cram for it.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 9:18 AM | Report abuse


Bush Doctrine-flap aside, she:

- openly talks about invading Russia, which as Secretary Gates eloquently put it a couple weeks ago, "is something that we've been avoiding for the last 40+ years, and we're sure as heck not going to start now."

- thinks Americans are stupid enough that we buy her "you can see Russia from some parts of Alaska" spiel as being legit foreign policy experience.

- is probably the only person in the world outside of Saakashvili who thinks Russia was "unprovoked" (I have serious doubts about whether or not she actually knows what happened beyond some talking points she got crammed into her head before the interview.)

- looked like someone going in for a job interview who was completely unqualified and just memorized some key points from the company's website, and when the interviewer asks about something she didn't memorize, started talking about unrelated issues hoping he'd forget.

What a travesty. At the very least, in the off chance that John McCain gets elected, if he truly puts Country First, he needs to fire her right away and pick someone worthy of the position. There are plenty of qualified Republican women out there for him to have chosen, but man did he put Politics First and Country Last with this one.

Posted by: Charles | September 14, 2008 9:14 AM | Report abuse

Anybody watch SNL last night?

The McCain campaign should just hire Tina Fey as Sarah Palin's body double for interviews. She'd nail the lines AND improvise!

Just imagine what a Fey as Palin/Putin Wasilla Summit would be like!

Will Vladimir save Sarah from a grizzly?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 9:10 AM | Report abuse

A solid "C", the bar is set so low....

One got the impression of a professor with a student trying to explain why she should not be flunked.

Posted by: Dave D.. | September 14, 2008 9:08 AM | Report abuse

A big-time F.

What kind of person--especially one with her level of inexperience--immediately jumps on being VP without any hesitation whatsoever? What kind of inflated ego do you have to have to be able to do that? No second thoughts at all? No thinking, "Hmm, I wonder if I'm the best choice for my country..."

"You can't blink," she says. Well, George W. Bush didn't blink. Instead, he just kept taking our dear country in the wrong direction without listening to experts and advisors until we got to the sorry state that we're in today.

We don't need four more years of the same.

Posted by: Grading Sarah | September 14, 2008 9:06 AM | Report abuse

It sickens me to think that Palin might go down in history as being the first woman as VP. Come on, is this the best we can do? I am sad to think of all the qualified women we have Palin is to represent us in history books. You better wake up and see her for what she really is, just another phony, manipulative woman using her looks, red lipstick and charming tactics to win you over. Sounds like high school to me.

Posted by: Carol | September 14, 2008 9:04 AM | Report abuse

Pay not attention to that woman behind the curtain!
Palin's a sideshow to distract the press and the American people from the fact Republican policies have our country on the brink of total collapse. Think the U.S. is "too big to fail?" Think again.

Posted by: AJ | September 14, 2008 9:04 AM | Report abuse

F...for insinuating that Iraq was behind 9/11.

and F to McCain for nominating this amateur and making a joke out of one of the most important elections in US history.

Posted by: vf | September 14, 2008 8:59 AM | Report abuse

She gets an A from me!

After all the attacks on her integrity, Governor Palin was professional in her interaction with Charles, something I cannot say he was.

She would not answer a firm yes or no and that shows her intelligence. One does not state they will or will no do something without a full review of the issue. ABC tried to get her to do that and she did not - go Sarah!

Posted by: Ginny | September 14, 2008 8:42 AM | Report abuse

As an recruiter of high level executives for a private corporation, Sarah Palin gets a "D". She did not answer the questions with specific examples. So, for the job in which she's being interviewed (VP) we would not extend an offer.

Posted by: adelle | September 14, 2008 8:42 AM | Report abuse



Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 8:35 AM | Report abuse

I am proud of my country, bit is my country proud of me ; of you , of all the asinine voters who really believe the answer for our woes is War-go-lucly Sarah ?
OK , she is a real frontier gal, but to my knowmedge for JFK the next frontier was Space not OK Corral re-enacted. I dont like Veep Cheney, but the man has brains. What we have seen is a beauty pageant Miss who thinks that not blinking to Putin will make him wince. OMG, the guy is KGB trained. One single look from him will desintegrate our alaskan girl.
And THE REST OF THE WORLD, NOT TO MENTION THE ECONOMY-STUPID is waiting for a new leadership.
Show them McSame and Palin and you will see the EU carryingon their own little slow way ; less committed troops for NATO and the US voice less and less paid attention to. They will give us the bare modicum attention one gives to the local bully , but when brains will meet, no invitation for Palin. The British PM is learnt, not our Sarah, the french Pres is only a lawyer but has been mayor to a much marger town dealing in french politics as Interior/Home secretary for ys on and Merkel is a scientist. And out of all our alumni , we sing prais eto Palin.
The buck must stop somewhere. If teh US voter wishes for Miss Congeniality , it is our choice , but dont expect to get respect, get listened and get followed.
We were seen as dunces , now we are crawling to the levels of moronic lemmings.
If we carry on like that we shall soon become a nation of immigrants; going back where brains are....

Posted by: SAINTIXE | September 14, 2008 8:32 AM | Report abuse

Given the play of charisma with this candidate (at this point anyway), she succeeds at an interview if she simply avoids drooling.

Posted by: Max Sewell | September 14, 2008 8:18 AM | Report abuse

When are you guys going to get this?
You may not care about the rest of the world when it comes to electing your leader. You may be voting entirely out of self interest. Go ahead, that is your right.

The rest of the world currently sees the USA as a drug addict. High on 8 years of cowboy diplomacy and pistols at dawn. We are all praying that you wake up before you elect another Republican who will enact the same misinformed foreign policy. We've had enough of religious fanatics in the White House 'Gov. Palin - Iraq is a mission from God'.

We hope that you all vote to go into rehab, and start taking notice of what the world thinks of you again, before you loose all moral authority. American's like to say that they are electing the leader of the free world, so please, start acting like it.

McCain and his dangerously outdated world-view are a recipe for further destabilisation of the East-West axis. The religious right of the GOP want another Judaeo-Christian crusade in the middle east (Iran). Please don't give it to them.

So before you vote on Nov 4. Think. Republicans are great campaigners, but haven't the last 8 years shown that they are anything but good governors? The world can't afford another 4 years of Republicanism, and I say that as someone who is pro-US.

Posted by: Mike, UK | September 14, 2008 8:08 AM | Report abuse

I think she is more qualified to be president than Obama. I think she represents what America thinks about nitwits in DC and NY. I think she has shined a spotlight on the lack of scrutiny given to Biden and Obama's records. The media is on a seek and destroy mission.

Her interview, I give her a B.

The backlash against Obama and the media, A+++++.

Posted by: Karen | September 14, 2008 8:07 AM | Report abuse

I think she is unqualified and unfit to be VP. Her family makeup is weirder than the Clinton... incest, alcoholism, corruption, teen pregnancy...this is not the family values the Republicans have been preaching...

Posted by: eNews Reference | September 14, 2008 7:50 AM | Report abuse

Palin gets a D.
The few coherent things she said were memorized. The rest was Bush-era buzz words, posturing (that "you can't blink, Charlie" nonsense) and slogans.

Not ready to lead.

Posted by: Gary Cheron | September 14, 2008 7:46 AM | Report abuse

F for lack of specifics, content and not answering the questions as posed. Bush all over again. How dumb are we.

Posted by: Loose Moose | September 14, 2008 7:43 AM | Report abuse

I give her a C-. She is running for the Vice President of the United States with the possibility of becoming President at a moment's notice. She demonstrated profound ignorance on foreign policy- she did not have a clue about Bush's position on "preventive war" which is the hallmark of his administration; she was incorrect when she repeated twice that Russia was not initially provoked by Georgia; she foolishly stated that she would not involve herself if Israel decided to attack Iran (regardless I suppose of the consequences to U.S. strategic interests?);she speculated that her policy of bringing Georgia into NATO might lead to a hot war with Russia without realizing that could end in nuclear war?; she is a dangerously incurious person who evidenced no interest in traveling or meeting other leaders. It is frightening to this reader to think that Plan could have her finger on the nuclear button!

Posted by: andrew | September 14, 2008 6:57 AM | Report abuse

I love the way Palin fan call the left "angry" and all kinds of other names instead of defending Palin with facts. Oh yeah, the facts would lead you to believe she is wholly unqualified, an extremist, someone who doesn't tell the truth, an earmark grubbing lightweight, a hypocrite, and more. That's why they have to call the Democrats names--as a distraction. Ok, I get it now.

Posted by: commentator3 | September 14, 2008 6:55 AM | Report abuse

McCain, hero? For what? His adultery? Being "Married to the Mob? Killing 143 on the Forrestal? Getting shot down through his admitted stupidity and martial incompetence? Breaking his limbs ejecting? Getting captured? Being a cooperative POW? Failing to recognize Vietnam was a false war on behalf of the Roman Fifth Column (by whose pedophile priests he was raised) which assassinated John Kennedy six weeks after he order our withdrawal to begin?

McCain is no "hero." He is a bum, cursed with cancer, whose VP-pick is grubbing, inbred, whitetrash...Hitler-in-Drag.

But who else would support the treason of a homosexual draft-dodger cheated in the White House, by only the Roman Catholics votes on the Supreme Court, and committed 9/11 (Viz."The New Pearl Harbor," Griffin, PhD)?

Death for Treason
Annuit Coeptis

Posted by: Will Jones - Atlanta | September 14, 2008 6:53 AM | Report abuse

I really thought she did a GREAT job.

As far as Charles Gibson, I thought the format was just a classic "gotcha" interview.

He was convinced that every single syllable she uttered or has ever uttered was absolutely vital to determining if she would be a capable President.
Meanwhile, she's running for Vice President.

What she kept doing was articulating her over-reaching governing philosophy, which her record supports.

She has a clear governing philosophy and a fantastic record, but Gibson seemed more determined to embarrass her rather than listen to her.

The typical one was the "Bush Doctrine" question:
Does she support the "Bush Doctrine"?
YES or NO?!!?

NO critical thinking allowed -- just answer the question -- yes or no.

That she asked for clarification was actually ridiculed by the DC pundits!
And, then, come to find out, THEY don't know what the "Bush Doctrine" is either!

After spewing out the despicable rumors fed to them by the left-wing loonies at DailyKos, the media wants us to trust them to treat Sarah Palin fairly?
Sorry, that train has already left the station.

I'll ask the same question McCain asks:
Why won't Barack Obama do joint town hall meetings and just get rid of the middle men?

Sarah Palin is a reformer.
She has a proven record.
John McCain is a reformer.
He has a proven record.

The media has spent the last two weeks doing nothing but tearing down Sarah Palin.

They never question the lightweight who is running for PRESIDENT on the Democratic side.

They think it's funny when he ridicules people who don't use email.
Is that one of those "important issues" that Obama claims to want to talk about?

Let's face facts:
Barack Obama can make political promises in a more beautiful speaking manner than most politicians ever have.

But Obama has no record of actually changing anything.

Sarah Palin does.
More importantly, John McCain does.

Hero vs. Zero
McMaverick vs. The Chosen One

McCain/Palin '08

Posted by: Jan | September 14, 2008 6:38 AM | Report abuse

btw, while we're thinking of sarah palin interviews (both of them), we're still a bit puzzled about her first announcement to world press the day after she was named as mccain's vp.

the way we get it, sarah said that she was announcing to the world that her daughter Bristol was an unwed pregnant high school teenager (thus making Bristol the likely butt of late night television show jokes and snide remarks for rest of her life - and possibly forcing her into marrying a self-proclaimed 'red neck s*@tkicker') in order to protect Bristol from the internet rumors Bristol had been an unwed pregnant high school teenager??

say what? either sarah palin has some odd sort of judgement about how to protect her child's reputation, or sarah also had some additional compelling motivations for this announcement.

we refuse to believe a mother would elect to sacrifice her own child to further her own political ambitions.

on the other hand, it's hard to completely eliminate that possibility, isn't it? and if reflect on political ramifications if some Pat Tillman-like event were to befall Track Palin a week or so before election (providing sarah and mccain with a bloody flag and Gold Star to wave everyone into the polling booth), we would advise Track watch his backside very carefully for the next two months (can never be too careful, eh?).

Posted by: ithejury | September 14, 2008 6:27 AM | Report abuse

I give her a B+ and I give Gibson a C+. Gibson stumbled over the "Bush Doctrine" gotcha (it has meant four things; he expected Palin to read his mind, then talked down his nose at her most unbecomingly). Gibson also flopped when he insisted his re-working of her own quotes was her "exact words" (wrong, Charlie!). And of course Palin's best foreign policy responses were edited out by ABC to make her look less capable than she is. That's just shoddy Obama-campaigning dressed up to look like real journalism. Still, I felt she was a bit weak in some areas. Overall, I sure would trust her judgment above Obama's. He's never had treatment this rough at the hands of a network station, and he's actually running for President! lol.

Posted by: Randolph | September 14, 2008 6:21 AM | Report abuse


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Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 6:02 AM | Report abuse


Sarah gets an A+

The democrats are so mean - they are angry liberals.


Sarah Palin just starting running for Vice President - the national media is just getting to know her - I can tell you this - I feel 1000% more comfortable with her in command in a National Security crisis as compared to Obama.

Obama has been in war games (scenarios which are run as part of seminars) as legislative training -

Other Senators have commented on how Obama hesitates when asked to make a decision, refuses to order the use of troops (in a war game situation) and will not order the bombs to be dropped (in a war game scenario.)

The Senators who have made public statements expressed doubt that Obama had the ability to handle an actual crisis.

Sarah Palin has the natural ability to lead this nation in a National Security Crisis - the nation can have confidence in her


Posted by: 37th&OStreet | September 14, 2008 6:02 AM | Report abuse

Sarah gets an "A+"

First her legs looked great.

Now on to the less important stuff:

Charlie Gibson blew the interview with his obvious "gotcha" attitude.

Bush Doctrine? Ask even Georgetown Foreign Service Alumni what it is and many may not be able to tell you.

Sarah Palin - for her first hostile interview - did excellent. She clearly expressed that she will be tough in a situation which involved National Security.

A President is flanked by Generals and Staff who will brief her on the technical issues of what doctrine is this and what doctrine is that.

Sarah has the right instincts: She will order the shooting first and ask Charlie Gibson about the doctrines later.

The Palin Doctrine:

1) Yes it was their fault.

2) Yes they deserved it.

3) Yes I don't care what the doctrine says.


Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 5:59 AM | Report abuse

attaboy buckdharma; thanks for link, and you're right, the parts of interview that ABC edited out WERE enlightening:

buckdharma: "..give ABC an "A" for unfair editing. Here is the transcript, with the parts edited out in bold: .."

Posted by: ithejury | September 14, 2008 5:54 AM | Report abuse

I give her a complete "F"! Some of you are complaining that Gibson was too hard on her. Well if she can't even take the heat from an interview like this how the heck do you people expect for her to lead our country! This woman can't even pronounce the word "nuclear" for crying out loud! She's delusional to even think that one can see Russia from land in Alaska. It's obvious this woman is not qualified whatsoever to be vp, let alone a heart beat away from presidentcy. Those who thought she did a fantastic job on this interview are kidding themselves and are ignorant. I can not understand how Republican strategist and others could praise her interview as a home run. I'm not suprise that the McCain campaign would lie through their teeth defending this woman in every way they can. This interview was shameful and an embarassment! If this is the type of person you want to see lead our country you're putting your future, your family's future, and your country in great risk. This interview was clearly the worst I've seen coming from a vp candidate and I'm sure most people would agree with me. Not only that but more and more skeletins are coming out of her closet. If you read the articles posted by NY Times and MSNBC, they now have facts about her history record as a mayor and governor. Hopefully those articles will help you in knowing who she really is and what kind of dirty politic she was running when she was a mayor and governor. The only good thing about Palin is that she took on the good old boys but other then that she's more of the same.

Posted by: Panhia | September 14, 2008 5:51 AM | Report abuse

You guys are kidding. McCain has turned the whole election into a circus by selecting Palin. He lacks judgment and the selection shows what he actually thinks about an average American....Not much. If America elects McCain the whole world is going to laugh at it more than ever. If you take a real objective view of the whole thing you realize how absurd it is to have Palin on the ticket.

Posted by: uncle sam | September 14, 2008 5:50 AM | Report abuse

i'll give her a generous D+ ... and i've been grading students for twenty years, so my grade-dar has gotten to be pretty good.

here's why. she doesn't know what she's talking about. she doesn't have any inking on foreign affairs. let's consider a number points : one--the bush doctrine? don't let krauthammer and kompany try to fool you into thinking charlie got it wrong; charlie's not running for veep, and besides, even my 86 year old mother who doesn't have a keen grasp of the nuances contemporary politics knew what it was better than did palin; two--not second-guessing allies? hello? wtf? so if egypt decides to go all crazy on israel's ass because israel bombed iran, we should not second-guess either country's actions and just let them happen. right. and without so much as a rational. three--you can see russia from alaska, from an "island in alaska," an island to which the governor has never been and from which could gain no insight into putin's motivations. four--iraq was responsible for 9-11? really? even dick cheney has given up on that one. five--she got her passport last year before travelling to iraq, and has it turns out, didn't travel to iraq. not only has she not seen the world or paid attention to how it works, but--six-- she doesn't know any world leaders or even important uppy-ups, thinks that's okay, and then erroneously claims that no veep candidates have known world leaders prior to being veep. newsflash ! *even dan quayle* knew world leaders before he was elected.

shall we now turn to domestic policy? we could enumerate points here that demonstrate that she doesn't know what she's talking about -- but really it would be best to summarize all those points with a simple phrase : SHE IS A LYING LIAR WHO TELLS LIES, even after the lies have been exposed as lies by mutiiple different media outlets on both sides of the aisle. even bill-o called her out on her lies.

now, she is dynamic, she puts on a good show, she sticks to her talking points, she could be a good spokesperson or press secretary, a job for which she actually trained at five universities over six years. she's got poise and presence, and she's not afraid to stand her ground, even when she knows that either she doesn't know what she's talking about (i.e. she talks out of her ass) or when she knows that she's lying. and i'm sure she tried really hard, a favorite plea of my students.

to modify a popular phrase, you can dress complete and total ignorance and blatant lies up in a pretty dress and you can put on a good show to gussy it up even further, but what you've got there is still complete and total ignorance and blatant lies.

she doesn't get an F because she didn't totally bomb, but anyone who thinks that her performance was average or better obviously went to five rinky dink state schools in six years.

Posted by: the phenomenologist | September 14, 2008 4:56 AM | Report abuse

Debate all you want both left and right. Keeping calling each other names and be divisive. That really helps make this country stronger. NOT!!! It just means that all that are not either far left or right have to do more work. Since one side or the other will be disappointed and disillusioned on Nov 5th and the other side will feel they have a mandate to proceed with their agenda.

On Palin. The interview and how she did means very little to me. The simple fact that she needed to be tutored and coached to take an interveiw tells it all.

Even the Republican analysist agree that Palin is taking a crash course on foreign policy etc.

Why would I want someone who is unknowledgable and learning to be the Vice President of this country? Think of it in terms of a business that is going through hard times, who do you hire? Someone within the industry who has demonstrated their knowledge and ability or someone from a completely different industry that not only has to learn avout your company but also has to learn about the industry as well.

I will take someone well versed from within the industry.

I'm not a big fan of Obama/Biden but McCain picking Palin makes me doubt his ability to lead when there were many people that were much more qualified for the position both men and women.

Once again we more to the center are left with no real choice just like the last 2 elections.

Posted by: Wally | September 14, 2008 4:42 AM | Report abuse

Obama is change, my love.

Posted by: Baby Fix | September 14, 2008 4:16 AM | Report abuse

Vote Reform. Vote McCain-Palin.

Only they have stood up to their party and their president when they disagreed. Obama gained his position by currying favor with the most liberal elements of his party, and he's never challenged them. Even Bill Clinton had his Sister Souljah moment.

Leadership requires more than just going along to get along. In his 12 years in government, Obama has failed to bring any significant change to his state or the country. The opposite is true of McCain-Palin.

Posted by: rlmcca | September 14, 2008 3:55 AM | Report abuse

I give ABC an "A" for unfair editing.

Here is the transcript, with the parts edited out in bold:

Posted by: Buckdharma | September 14, 2008 3:51 AM | Report abuse

I was joking. Ha ha! Vote stupidity. Vote McCain-Palin!

By the way I give Palin a 'C' which as McCainiacs know stands for...

Posted by: rlmcca | September 14, 2008 3:35 AM | Report abuse

Vote Plagiarism. Vote Obama-Biden. Both seem to have difficulty remembering whose words they're stealing.

Posted by: rlmcca | September 14, 2008 3:34 AM | Report abuse

Vote Arrogance. Vote Obama-Biden.

Posted by: rlmcca | September 14, 2008 3:32 AM | Report abuse

Gov Palin gets an A for Achievment. She has a record of actually DOING something in big ways. Her Alaska constituency ranks her the highest as Governor among 50. Obama might grade her lower among the 58.
The Bush Doctrine - read Charles Krauthamer's article about that. He flat said Gibson got it wrong.
And Gibson also got it wrong when he quoted Palin saying Iraq is a task from God. He wouldn't even back down when Gov Palin called him on that. That was a complete misquote and misrepresentation of facts. Apparently he doesn't check his sources even though it was readily avaiable on YouTube. Heard he relies on what he reads in the paper - AP to be specific. I expected far better from Charley Gibson. He lost all credibility with those less than honest questions and Sarah Palin earned an A for her ability to stay on target, keep her cool and answer truthfully and with grace. Obama and his supporters need to recognize soon that what they think is far right wing exrtremism is nothing more than what has been middle of the road maintream values until just 2-3 decades ago. If McCain and Sarah Palin can reform Washington I wonder who will reform American journalism. Gov Palin ranks A - Accomplished, Active and Articulate.

Posted by: Mary McCurry | September 14, 2008 3:31 AM | Report abuse

I thought Obama wanted to focus on issues. Why are he and his friends wasting so much time talking about McCain being old (his mother's still sharp at 96) and about Palin wanting an unprofessional cop fired who had threatened her family (who wouldn't?)?

Posted by: rlmcca | September 14, 2008 3:26 AM | Report abuse

Dcfred: Are SNL trying to redeem themselves after that abominable skit in the primaries mocking Obama? Sad numpty loafers.

Posted by: Yesmuttel | September 14, 2008 3:18 AM | Report abuse

You can watch the SNL Palin/Clinton clip in my blog:

Was very funny, I thought.

Posted by: DCfred | September 14, 2008 2:54 AM | Report abuse

Hey, did you guys notice that the only people apologizing/defending Palin here are repeating the same tired, transparent talking points (KG says, "She handled it admirable" [<--- get that] & "showed conviction and poise") they heard from TV/Fox Noise "contributors" Karl "Turd Blossom" Rove and Bay Buchanan after the interview, and then exaggerated them (Rove blathering on about 4 separate Bush Doctrines and Bay Buchanan's same nonsense which was a bad impression of Rove's cogitating consternations & that sounded in-the-voice exactly like Pat Buchanan)?

Second, did you notice those same (few) people generally have a really feeble handle on the language??? Then I saw one who may actually be grammatically adept trying to project just like Republicans always do, attempting to tell the tougher critics among us that we have poor grammar? No one's perfect, but WTF? I routinely see Republican defenders absolutely butcher this language. To me, it puts their very powers of observation in suspicion. Then, other times, I just have to laugh. :) You know who you are, "Anonymous!" If you weren't (Anonymous), "they'd know your name because I would make you famous!"

As for Obama being slow to answer; it's because he is a thinker! See, Obama considers the consequences of his words/actions before answering/acting. He is not rigid, oh no..! By stark contrast, Palin strikes me as a very rigid (some call this principled) type who, believing one thing on Monday, will continue to believe the same thing on Friday NO MATTER WHAT happened on Wednesday. McCain, too, for that matter. We need someone who can assess each situation as it comes. We need this so desperately. Obama is very deliberate in choosing his words and actions. His message is specific and well thought out.

Let me shine a little light here.

Just consider this (with the understanding that the presence of a certain file type does NOT make Obama the Content King): There are 219 PDF files on Obama's website; each one highly specific, dealing with policies and giving hard facts.

McCain's website has 34. (34!) Consider that JUST FOR AN EXAMPLE.

For a prime example, see:

McCain's site has NONE of this type of plan, although it does feature a (plagiarized, exposed months ago & STILL not removed) "family cookie" & guacamole recipe alongside some other mostly nonsensical rag-tag files without proper names/web tags and are as sparse on message as you can get.

It's like after 8 years, we are just going to take his word for it. I can't BELIEVE this guy is seriously running for President, with someone like Palin riding "shotgun..!"

OK, OK... As for viejo1, you are either so blinded by hate or so ill informed that you should not be voting at all. My god, man... It's people like YOU who truly scare me. Know why? It's 'cause I am a THINKER! Quit trying to thow your roundly & thoroughly debunked, horribly outdated and "probably" irrelevant Primary Season Obama slander/drivel back onto him.

Last, I want to say that if you knew me, most of you wouldn't believe who you are talking to. I have long hair and listen to extreme metal music! I have waaaaaaay more savvy and knowledge of world affairs + American politics to be VP than Palin! That's what's killing me right now. Defenders/apologists, you have to know, even if you won't admit it, that Sarah Palin is a liability to the McCain ticket, an embarrassment to this country (google foreign press) and indeed, a clear and present danger to the very life/longevity of this "fortress" America! People all around the world favor Obama. Why does America have to be a "fortress," anyway? Having friends helps us, not the other way around.

Oh, right - the interview? Palin gets a generous "D" (needs to improve) for such a conspicuous failure to understand what is being asked of her, both on the spot and in the case of the (much) larger picture.

Before you rip on ME for being a liberal, I am not so easy to polarize. Get this: I am pro-gun, pro home-schooling, and anti big-gov't. I liked McCain over Bush in the 2000 primaries, and I can't STAND him today. I voted Bush in 2000; Kerry in 2004. Now more than ever, it is SO COMPLETELY OBVIOUS that Barack Obama is the best choice for our next President. Obama has EARNED my vote, and I don't give my vote up very easily.

Before you denounce me as sexist, I briefly leaned Hillary earlier. I am also ALL about equality for women, in the workplace and in general society. I am all about a woman's ultimate control over her own body. Ladies? I think you will have your turn one day soon, and she will be a great leader, but not like this. NOT LIKE THIS!

Posted by: White, working-class American males for Obama | September 14, 2008 2:36 AM | Report abuse

No problem! Since the media doesn't report it because he is the Messiah -- I thought I would remind y'all about the past -- One other fact you may or may not know ... They can't find very many people who he actually knew in college ... WEIRD.

Posted by: mike125 | September 14, 2008 2:31 AM | Report abuse

wow. mike125. recycling old news to us - we are so very grateful to thee.

Posted by: Cantmole | September 14, 2008 2:25 AM | Report abuse

Palin earns a B-. The media set up expectations that she could accomplish nothing but failure when subjected to their scrutiny, and Palin proved the media wrong on that point. She held her own.

What is more, Gibson's "gotcha" moment really wasn't. There is no single definition of a "Bush Doctrine," and I or anyone else with a mind for politics or foreign policy would have to ask for clarification--did Gibson mean "with us or against us," unilateral US action, preventive war, spreading freedom and democracy, or what? Bush has operated on a number of doctrines, and so the question was poorly conceived.

However, Palin needs to work on substance, nuance, and style. She did tolerably well, but will need better in the debate.

Posted by: blert | September 14, 2008 2:24 AM | Report abuse

You guys say she lies? What about Obama who says "I had no idea that Rev. Wright had those thoughts" but yet Wright was his spirtual advisor, he performed his marriage ceremony, and Obama attended the church for 20 years!!! It's actually offensive. Good luck Obama -- you're going to need it. The American people are starting to get to know you --- and they don't like what they see.

Posted by: Mike125 | September 14, 2008 2:21 AM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin gets an F. She gets an F for failing to even consider her lack of qualifications for this position. She gets an F for failing to understand that diplomacy sometimes requires that you "blink". For her naked attempt to avoid saying anything of any substance, she gets an F. For indicating a willingness to go to war with Russia- an F. Failure to know the "Bush Doctrine"- F. Indicating that the U.S. should not "second guess" Israel should they attack another country- F. For her comment that Russia's attack on Georgia was "unprovoked"- F. For the fact that none of the above are subjects for which she should have needed coaching to discuss intelligently- F.

Mrs. Palin has now shown us that, while she's great at delivering snarky, nasty oneliners in speeches, she's taken little notice of anything going on outside of Alaska. Woe be unto us if she should make it into office. We've had enough of government by polarizing, belligerent, dolts.

Posted by: Dianne Jackson | September 14, 2008 2:20 AM | Report abuse

I love it! The liberal "boobs" are shaking in their boots and will say anything because they are so scared that they are going to LOSE AGAIN ... YES AGAIN. Why can't you guys get it right? Oh yea ... because the majority of Americans think you guys are phonies and liars! Woo Hoo!

Posted by: SBG | September 14, 2008 2:17 AM | Report abuse

I wish it were Tim Russert that interviewed Palin. Sigh...

Posted by: Lucy | September 14, 2008 2:16 AM | Report abuse

Chris, I can not believe that we have human beings with a brain that are actually
considering this woman for Vice President of the United States of America. This pathological liar should not be allowed to go near the White House. Giving this lady an F is too much credit. Charlie was much
tougher on Obama. I also remember during the debates,how George and Charlie teamed up on Obama and treated him like a BOY!

Posted by: Doris,Memphis,TN | September 14, 2008 2:15 AM | Report abuse

Whoa, Cillizza! You say she "danced around" the question of the Bush doctrine? Look again. There ain't no dancin' there. She plumb didn't know the term. Had never read any news about it, had never heard it debated. She wasn't prepped on it by the McCain handlers, of course, because they assumed she at least knew what it meant. But she was clueless! Too busy looking at the coast of Russia and wondering what Russia is, I guess.

Posted by: jchaney | September 14, 2008 2:13 AM | Report abuse


D...for Dangerous. She revealed herself as less than even a third class mind, driven by personal bias and hunger for self-promotion. The idea of this woman being a heartbeat away from the Presidency (and the launch button) is terrifying.

Posted by: Pol Observer | September 14, 2008 2:12 AM | Report abuse

I may be naive, but I find it disconcerting that if a person can lie through his/her teeth without batting an eye, avoid or deflect hard-hitting questions by continually returning to scripted, memorized talking points, and inflate/embellish their own accomplishments without an ounce of guilt, then that person is considered to be a skilled politician.

By that standard, I guess Palin has some skills. But frankly, I want to elect a skilled leader, not a skilled politician. She is all about morality, but care little about ethics.

Gibson could have cut her off at the knees numerous times during the interview, yet repeatedly gave her opportunities to dig herself out of a hole. Even so, she frequently had the "deer in the headlights" expression and looked like she was about to pee in her pants a few times.

I think we have just gotten a glimpse of her inability to comprehend national and international policy. She currently knows squat about either. She's not necessarily stupid, just extremely ignorant about 95% of what the VP job requires. I'm not even talking about experience--just vital knowledge necessary to make prudent, rational, sound decisions.

Serving on a city council and mayor of a small town are fine on your resume....if you're running for state office. And a year and a half as governor of the state that is least typical of the rest of the country is of only marginal value.

She's going to need over a year to be brought up to speed just to be competent in her job. Rove even admitted that her selection was a "political" decision" rather than a "governing" one, meaning that her job is simply to get McCain elected and then be quietly sequestered into a office for the next 4 years. McCain knows this, and this is why she is being shielded from the rest of the media. Every time she opens her mouth and says something that has not been scripted for her in advance, she shows her total lack of understanding about national and international affairs. Hell, she didn't even know what the VP's job entailed when she agreed to accept McCain's invitation to join the ticket!

But frankly, lack of vital knowledge is only one small piece of the "we don't want Palin in Washington" pie.

Posted by: labman57 | September 14, 2008 2:10 AM | Report abuse

If Palin goes into the VP debate heavily scripted like she apparently was in the ABC interview, she's going to be in trouble. Biden will be able to predict what Palin is going to say, but not the other way around, for Biden is famous (or infamous) for not following the script and could hit Palin with something for which she's completely unprepared.

She'll also be in trouble if she appears personally contemptuous of Biden, as she is likely to, given her recent behavior and that of the Republican base that's cheering her on. At a personal level, Biden is very deferential to Palin and has even jumped to her defense in the 'mommy wars'. His attacks are limited to Palin's stands, or lack thereof, on the substantive issues facing the country. So, if Palin resorts to personal attacks, either in words or in mannerisms, she will have lost the debate.

Posted by: Sam | September 14, 2008 2:09 AM | Report abuse

I see the Obama and clones are working overtime trying to destroy the only major party candidate with executive experience running for national office this year. The polls have McCain leading and liberals are melting down--calling Obama "Jesus", calling Palin "lipstick," accusing Palin of having sex with teenagers, and Biden's not sure he should have been picked.

I think Sarah Palin deserves an B+. Just for the record, there's no consensus on what the "Bush Doctrine" is.

Let's face it, if her counterpart Joe Biden had been interviewed by Gibson, he probably would have embarrassed himself as he so frequently does.

Posted by: rlmcca | September 14, 2008 2:03 AM | Report abuse

F for Fraud. The McCain camp is pulling a con job fraud on the American people and the world by setting this person up. She is totally unqualified and yet too naive to realize it. I think she has peaked. I fell asleep during the second interview because her mouth opened, words fell out but she was saying nothing.

For "Charlie" I give him an A for patience, endurance and courtesy.

Posted by: M T Welch | September 14, 2008 1:58 AM | Report abuse

Grade A - Confirmed my first impressions, strange affect, as creepy as McCain. Fortunately, I have had personal experience with this type of personality, so I was not deceived by the flashy exterior packaging nor the nice sounding hollow rhetoric. I agree, Palin can make all the lies, lack of experience, limited education sound like a good thing. She will continue to dazzle us to the vice presidency. Grade A - for the brilliant con-job on the American people. Grade F for us for falling for this farce.

Posted by: Kay LA | September 14, 2008 1:20 AM | Report abuse

Be afraid, be very afraid that this woman could get the codes!

Posted by: Scared | September 14, 2008 1:19 AM | Report abuse

She Gets a D: I moved around a lot as a kid and was always "The New Guy" one of my stops, a kid that befriended me whispered to me after seeing the girls gigglin' over me calling me good looking and wanted my name.....He said "You'd better take advantage of the notoriety while you can, tomorrow you'll be played out"....Personally, I don't know anything about the "Bush Doctrine"........But I'm not running for vice-president of THESE United States of America either, am I?

Posted by: Kevin L. | September 14, 2008 1:13 AM | Report abuse


Governors always get criticized for not having foreign policy experience when they run for the presidency or vice presidency, but for some reason (and we can all think of a few) Palin is getting more scrutiny than most. Here she looks confident and coherent on topics she can't have had much time to prepare for. She's clearly highly intelligent, articulate and a quick study.

Charlie Gibson helps her immensely by coming across less as someone trying to develop an understanding of a person who could easily be President someday, and more as a skeptical member of the liberal establishment condescending against an uppity newcomer.

Posted by: eTom | September 14, 2008 1:07 AM | Report abuse

Sadie gets an "D". Her handlers get a "C", Gibson a "C".

Sadie would have gotten an "F" except that she is nervy in a slimy, calculating way and pulled off some rote answers without swallowing her tongue. Until she is spontaneous and off script, she will always appear fraudulent, worse, she might be actually be fraudulent.

Might be best to ignore this lightweight from now on. Mad Mac is the top of the ticket, right? Once she flames out, which she will, he does keep running, right? Or does the first dude step in? Or the redneck baby daddy? That would be hilarious and a fitting end to the '08 (R) campaign.

Posted by: PreAmerikkkan | September 14, 2008 1:04 AM | Report abuse

I give her an 'F'. Why? 'Cos I'm sexist, clearly.

Posted by: Baby Fix | September 14, 2008 1:02 AM | Report abuse

There's no such thing as a "blizzard of words" . He had the phrase ready. He knew his interviewee would establish disambiguation of the introduced phrase "The Bush Doctrine". The interviewee established such by return interrogation. It could have been done by taking the questin away from him and giving him the descriptions that were available to her. And youn scouyld see that that was what the interviewee had to decide upon. Which ever way the interview handled it the phrase was ready: "a blizzard of words".
Let's hope there's a blizzard of som'm on the media's face right now.

Posted by: Soufflee | September 14, 2008 1:00 AM | Report abuse

John from WI,

So you're telling me that Sarah Palin, who as recently as a few months ago told people that she hasn't had time to really form a position on the Iraq war, is more qualified to be president than people who have been discussing and trying to shape policy on that issue?

Of the four people on the two major party tickets, three have spent the last year and a half sharing with us their views, staking out positions, and offering solutions for the most important issues our nation faces, now and in the years ahead.

(here's a hint: the one who hasn't has the initials SP)

In a vacuum, she has valuable experience. In the real world, she's had two years as the governor of the least populous state in the U.S. Her experience loses value due to it being localized.

Obama, Biden, and McCain have experience debating and creating policy that impacts all 50 states, as well as the international community. Of the four, Sarah Palin, gubernatorial experience or no, is far and away the least prepared to step immediately into the role as leader of the free world; if for no other reason than the fact that she's had practically no time to form a detailed and cohesive view of what needs to be done and how, both domestically and internationally.

Posted by: JamesCH | September 14, 2008 12:58 AM | Report abuse

She hates terrorists, she loves God, and she will be decisive. Americans love that, even given the probability she'll be decisively wrong.

We're about to have a President who hums "bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran" and a VP who doesn't believe in dinosaurs but sure as heck believes in oil.

And I thought the Daily Show couldn't get any better Dick and W. Silly me.

Posted by: Deficits dont matter | September 14, 2008 12:46 AM | Report abuse

Grade D: Palin provides shallow lip service responses. I have observed the absence of depth and insights; the verbal dancing around questions isno surprise as she lacks experience comparable to the position she is seeking; no foreign policy or relations experience; a non negotiator "my way or e highway position taker" shown both as Mayor and Governor--Palin is indeed a George Bush in a female body! America and the Republican Party can do better than Sarah Palin. McCain, Mr. absent integrity McCain is a black eye to his Party.

Posted by: Lou R | September 14, 2008 12:40 AM | Report abuse

Anyone who says Ms. Palin is not qualified to lead this country continues to expose the reality of how tissue paper thin the resume of the "messiah" on the top of the Dems ticket truely is.

The answers she gave were to the point, more than adequate, above all - correct, and she gave the same detail back that ABC's CG gave her in the questions without letting the snooty snob put words in her mouth (which he tried to do several times).

Get a clue you commie lefties - your guys can't tell their true experience (where are all the people Obama helped or taught speaking up about what a great job he did?). They can't tell their true history, or their true intentions for this Country or they'd lose in a landslide. Facts are Facts. Palin is more qualified to be the executive leader of this Country than Obama & OBiden put togther and you just can't stand the truth that you're stuck with such losers.....

Posted by: John in WI | September 14, 2008 12:37 AM | Report abuse

If she gets a point each time for using the word Charlie, then she'd get an A. Talk about being nervous and in way over her head.

Nothing against her, great mom, decent Governor but she's unfit to be anywhere near the White House.

Posted by: Chris | September 14, 2008 12:07 AM | Report abuse

I would give her a C-. At times she appeared flustered (with the handwaving and repeating the same talking points over and over for questions that the point wasn't even relevant for). Other times she appeared at ease. She appeared most flustered when she was asked about Economic or Foreign policy. So you can see that makes you a scholar eh? Charlie had to ask her the same questions over and over because she wouldn't answer them. The only part she appeared comfortable in was when she was talking about social issues. Even then though she kept adding caveats that "she respects divergent opinions" or some other such hogwash. If you're elected to outlaw abortion, outlaw it. Don't pussy foot around and say you won't. All in all, she better prepare a bit better for the debates. If she's not reading a script, she's not too impressive.

Posted by: Sean | September 13, 2008 11:46 PM | Report abuse

Chris, we need you to clarify something for us. Apparently, Governor Palin has exaggerated her foreign travel and experience, specifically a trip to Iraq that never happened, and a trip to Ireland. From CNN:

"In addition, campaign aides also confirmed reports to CNN Saturday that Palin's time in Ireland on that trip had actually been a refueling stop."

Chris, could you use the WaPo's resources to check if she came under sniper fire in Ireland?

Posted by: bondjedi | September 13, 2008 11:41 PM | Report abuse

F minus

She doesn't even know what the Bush doctrine is. Anyone with any remote interest in politics knows about it. She is nominated to be the second in command of this great nation. We deserve better. If the record of all her firings is any indication of what is to come, all the federal employees better start to memorize her likes and dislikes if they want to keep their jobs under her administration.

Posted by: Vinny | September 13, 2008 11:35 PM | Report abuse

This is the most appalling insult to the intelligence of the American voter I've read in this Palin fiasco--and that's saying a lot:
Bay Buchanan: No, it doesn't [matter]at all. Her answer was excellent. It will make Americans feel that much closer to her. [blah blah]. Sure, she hasn't traveled overseas to meet these foreign leaders. But that's not what American's[sic] are looking for. [blah yadda blah]They want somebody that they can relate to..They're sick and tired of those people in Washington who may know lots of facts and figures and meet lots of people..."
Patronize much, Mr. Buchanon?
"Yes, we're idiots, and we want a president who's an idiot too!!YAY SARAH!!."

Posted by: mags | September 13, 2008 11:35 PM | Report abuse

While Gov Palin may be a rising star in the Republican Party her interview demonstrated she is not ready to lead this country should McCain die in office. She seems likable enough but her lack of understanding on the Bush Doctrine is quite frankly inexcusable. While I would expect most Americans have no idea what the Bush Doctrine is I fully expect the Vice Presidential candidates of both parties to understand the policy which has been the premise of our foreign policy since 2002. For the naysayer who will argue Charlie Gibson was tough, he was entirely appropriate with his line of questions - the election of the VP is not a popularity contest. Her candidacy is an audition for the second most powerful position in the executive branch of our government. It was apparent that Palin was uncomfortable, could only recite canned responses (which did not answer the questions posed to her) and was caught of guard regarding, Pakistan, Iran, Israeli and Georgia. All of these states are nuclear powers or are partially occupied by states with nuclear weapons. John McCain has shown his disregard for our countries security by choosing at best a foreign policy rookie in a dangerous world.

Posted by: rgm | September 13, 2008 11:34 PM | Report abuse

Actually, about 10,000 people showed up to see Sarah today in Carson City. That's incredible. Had there not been a Reno Air Show competing with the Palin visit, and had the visit been in a larger venue, no doubt we would have seen 25,000. She's a rock star here in Northern Nevada. Washoe County (Reno and environs) is key to victory in Nevada. I would say that Palin's presence on the ticket swings this swing county to McCain, thus making Republican victory in Nevada highly likely.

Posted by: adam | September 13, 2008 11:33 PM | Report abuse

I can't believe Americans consider voting for these Republican phonies! THEY ARE LIARS...

Remember this headline from the UK newspaper after Bush got re-elected in 2004: HOW CAN 57 MILLION PEOPLE BE SO DUMB?

Vote Obama!

Posted by: nb | September 13, 2008 11:27 PM | Report abuse

She gets an F, Charlie gets a C-

She gave the performance that I would expect from an over confident 5th grader. Confused. Talked in circles. Contradicted herself. Ran to her talking points. Said the interviewers name over and over. Either, 2 weeks wasn't enough to prepare her for Charlie Gibson let alone the presidency, or all the stuff that works so well for her in Alaska doesn't work as well in the other 49 states.

Alaska is not a microcosm of the US as she claims. Alaska is a world unto itself. Separate. Distinct. That is Alaska's charm and strength, so why pretend otherwise.

Posted by: jjs | September 13, 2008 11:27 PM | Report abuse

Overall, I guess it was ok given the fact that she has to defend some indefensible positions. I'm sure even she realizes that she has no foreign policy experience, but she can't just say she doesn't have any. Thus, some nonsense about being able to see Russia from Alaska (I wonder if she has ever done this herself)

As for not blinking when getting the call to be VP, I'll buy that. The candidates who are being vetted know it. She had plenty of time to think.

She's not qualified and she knows it. She can't say that she's unqualified, though.

She did ok. Anyone who thought she did well is an idiot. It was pretty obvious when she was evading questions.

She better on the rest of the interview, though. D for part 1. It was just AWFUL. B for parts 2 and 3.

Also, have you noticed all the Repub pundits speaking out against the Bush Doctrine question all at once? Of course, the charge was led by the Post's own Chucky K.

Posted by: DDAWD | September 13, 2008 11:22 PM | Report abuse

D. And that's generous.

I could bull$#!t better than this on a PoliSci midterm when I was a sophomore.

Posted by: FlownOver | September 13, 2008 11:22 PM | Report abuse

If you thought the only thing cooking in Wasilla Alaska was moose stew, think again. The town that was under the questionable leadership of Sarah Palin is becoming known as the biggest methamphetamine cooking-town in America.

Where has she been while children are being neglected and exposed to the horrors of crystal meth? Child welfare services gets over 40 calls a month just about crystal meth abuses involving homes where children live.

Please read for yourself. She left Wasilla and Alaska in desperate shape:

Congrats Sarah, you're a real reformer. Why don't you just go back to posing with dead animals. Oh wait, you have McCain for that now.

Posted by: A non-e-moose | September 13, 2008 11:22 PM | Report abuse

It was a D+, but I'm grading on a curve. She was at times wooden and her answers lacked any substance. I noticed that she winked a few times - was she winking to someone in the room as if to say you were right, we got that question rehearsed.
Does she really think she fooled anybody by saying she was refering to an Abraham Lincoln quote when she spoke to people at her church?
She talked about how she was going to stop earmarks, but later said that she wanted to be sure her fellow Alaskans got what those in other states were getting. She claimed that she was going to make sure that money going to states was transparent and free from lobbyists' influence, but she hired a lobbyist to get millions for Wasilla. She never had any interest in banning books, but she fired the librarian. How often does a small town librarian get fired?
This is a woman that avoids answering questions, and when she does she flat out lies.

Posted by: donnierocky | September 13, 2008 11:16 PM | Report abuse

This letter is terrifys me!

From Alaska: The Palin Letter

A note to all by Anne Kilkenny
Dear friends,

So many people have asked me about what I know about Sarah Palin in the
last 2 days that I decided to write something up . . .

Basically, Sarah Palin and Hillary Clinton have only 2 things in
common: their gender and their good looks. :)

You have my permission to forward this to your friends/email contacts
with my name and email address attached, but please do not post it on
any websites, as there are too many kooks out there . . .


[ Note by web_admin: This was already posted on Washington Independent
comments area and was meant by the author to be read by many, but
readers need sourcing. The NY Times has talked with Anne since. ]

I am a resident of Wasilla, Alaska. I have known Sarah since 1992.
Everyone here knows Sarah, so it is nothing special to say we are on a
first-name basis. Our children have attended the same schools. Her
father was my child's favorite substitute teacher. I also am on a
first name basis with her parents and mother-in-law. I attended more
City Council meetings during her administration than about 99% of the
residents of the city.

She is enormously popular; in every way she’s like the most popular
girl in middle school. Even men who think she is a poor choice and
won't vote for her can't quit smiling when talking about her because
she is a "babe".

It is astonishing and almost scary how well she can keep a secret. She
kept her most recent pregnancy a secret from her children and parents
for seven months.

She is "pro-life". She recently gave birth to a Down's syndrome baby.
There is no cover-up involved, here; Trig is her baby.

She is energetic and hardworking. She regularly worked out at the gym.

She is savvy. She doesn't take positions; she just "puts things out
there" and if they prove to be popular, then she takes credit.

Her husband works a union job on the North Slope for BP and is a
champion snowmobile racer. Todd Palin’s kind of job is highly
sought-after because of the schedule and high pay. He arranges his
work schedule so he can fish for salmon in Bristol Bay for a month or
so in summer, but by no stretch of the imagination is fishing their
major source of income. Nor has her life-style ever been anything
like that of native Alaskans.

Sarah and her whole family are avid hunters.

She's smart.

Her experience is as mayor of a city with a population of about 5,000
(at the time), and less than 2 years as governor of a state with about
670,000 residents.

During her mayoral administration most of the actual work of running
this small city was turned over to an administrator. She had been
pushed to hire this administrator by party power-brokers after she had
gotten herself into some trouble over precipitous firings which had
given rise to a recall campaign.

Sarah campaigned in Wasilla as a “fiscal conservative”. During her 6
years as Mayor, she increased general government expenditures by over
33%. During those same 6 years the amount of taxes collected by the
City increased by 38%. This was during a period of low inflation
(1996-2002). She reduced progressive property taxes and increased a
regressive sales tax which taxed even food. The tax cuts that she
promoted benefited large corporate property owners way more than they
benefited residents.

The huge increases in tax revenues during her mayoral administration
weren’t enough to fund everything on her wish list though, borrowed
money was needed, too. She inherited a city with zero debt, but left it
with indebtedness of over $22 million. What did Mayor Palin encourage
the voters to borrow money for? Was it the infrastructure that she said
she supported? The sewage treatment plant that the city lacked? or a
new library? No. $1m for a park. $15m-plus for construction of a
multi-use sports complex which she rushed through to build on a piece
of property that the City didn’t even have clear title to, that was
still in litigation 7 yrs later--to the delight of the lawyers
involved! The sports complex itself is a nice addition to the
community but a huge money pit, not the profit-generator she claimed it
would be. She also supported bonds for $5.5m for road projects that
could have been done in 5-7 yrs without any borrowing.

While Mayor, City Hall was extensively remodeled and her office
redecorated more than once.

These are small numbers, but Wasilla is a very small city.

As an oil producer, the high price of oil has created a budget surplus
in Alaska. Rather than invest this surplus in technology that will
make us energy independent and increase efficiency, as Governor she
proposed distribution of this surplus to every individual in the state.

In this time of record state revenues and budget surpluses, she
recommended that the state borrow/bond for road projects, even while
she proposed distribution of surplus state revenues: spend today's
surplus, borrow for needs.

She’s not very tolerant of divergent opinions or open to outside ideas
or compromise. As Mayor, she fought ideas that weren’t generated by
her or her staff. Ideas weren’t evaluated on their merits, but on the
basis of who proposed them.

While Sarah was Mayor of Wasilla she tried to fire our highly respected
City Librarian because the Librarian refused to consider removing from
the library some books that Sarah wanted removed. City residents
rallied to the defense of the City Librarian and against Palin's
attempt at out-and-out censorship, so Palin backed down and withdrew
her termination letter. People who fought her attempt to oust the
Librarian are on her enemies list to this day.

Sarah complained about the “old boy’s club” when she first ran for
Mayor, so what did she bring Wasilla? A new set of "old boys". Palin
fired most of the experienced staff she inherited. At the City and as
Governor she hired or elevated new, inexperienced, obscure people,
creating a staff totally dependent on her for their jobs and eternally
grateful and fiercely loyal--loyal to the point of abusing their power
to further her personal agenda, as she has acknowledged happened in the
case of pressuring the State’s top cop (see below).

As Mayor, Sarah fired Wasilla’s Police Chief because he “intimidated”
her, she told the press. As Governor, her recent firing of Alaska's top
cop has the ring of familiarity about it. He served at her pleasure
and she had every legal right to fire him, but it's pretty clear that
an important factor in her decision to fire him was because he wouldn't
fire her sister's ex-husband, a State Trooper. Under investigation
for abuse of power, she has had to admit that more than 2 dozen
contacts were made between her staff and family to the person that she
later fired, pressuring him to fire her ex-brother-in-law. She tried to
replace the man she fired with a man who she knew had been reprimanded
for sexual harassment; when this caused a public furor, she withdrew
her support.

She has bitten the hand of every person who extended theirs to her in
help. The City Council person who personally escorted her around town
introducing her to voters when she first ran for Wasilla City Council
became one of her first targets when she was later elected Mayor. She
abruptly fired her loyal City Administrator; even people who didn’t
like the guy were stunned by this ruthlessness.

Fear of retribution has kept all of these people from saying anything
publicly about her.

When then-Governor Murkowski was handing out political plums, Sarah got
the best, Chair of the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission: one
of the few jobs not in Juneau and one of the best paid. She had no
background in oil & gas issues. Within months of scoring this great
job which paid $122,400/yr, she was complaining in the press about the
high salary. I was told that she hated that job: the commute, the
structured hours, the work. Sarah became aware that a member of this
Commission (who was also the State Chair of the Republican Party)
engaged in unethical behavior on the job. In a gutsy move which some
undoubtedly cautioned her could be political suicide, Sarah solved all
her problems in one fell swoop: got out of the job she hated and
garnered gobs of media attention as the patron saint of ethics and as a
gutsy fighter against the “old boys’ club” when she dramatically quit,
exposing this man’s ethics violations (for which he was fined).

As Mayor, she had her hand stuck out as far as anyone for pork from
Senator Ted Stevens. Lately, she has castigated his pork-barrel
politics and publicly humiliated him. She only opposed the “bridge to
nowhere” after it became clear that it would be unwise not to.

As Governor, she gave the Legislature no direction and budget
guidelines, then made a big grandstand display of line-item vetoing
projects, calling them pork. Public outcry and further legislative
action restored most of these projects--which had been vetoed simply
because she was not aware of their importance--but with the unobservant
she had gained a reputation as “anti-pork”.

She is solidly Republican: no political maverick. The State party
leaders hate her because she has bit them in the back and humiliated
them. Other members of the party object to her self-description as a
fiscal conservative.

Around Wasilla there are people who went to high school with Sarah.
They call her “Sarah Barracuda” because of her unbridled ambition and
predatory ruthlessness. Before she became so powerful, very ugly
stories circulated around town about shenanigans she pulled to be made
point guard on the high school basketball team. When Sarah's
mother-in-law, a highly respected member of the community and
experienced manager, ran for Mayor, Sarah refused to endorse her.

As Governor, she stepped outside of the box and put together of package
of legislation known as “AGIA” that forced the oil companies to march
to the beat of her drum.

Like most Alaskans, she favors drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife
Refuge. She has questioned if the loss of sea ice is linked to
global warming. She campaigned “as a private citizen” against a state
initiaitive that would have either a) protected salmon streams from
pollution from mines, or b) tied up in the courts all mining in the
state (depending on who you listen to). She has pushed the State’s
lawsuit against the Dept. of the Interior’s decision to list polar
bears as threatened species.

McCain is the oldest person to ever run for President; Sarah will be a
heartbeat away from being President.

There has to be literally millions of Americans who are more
knowledgeable and experienced than she.

However, there’s a lot of people who have underestimated her and are
regretting it.

•“Hockey mom”: true for a few years
•“PTA mom”: true years ago when her first-born was in elementary
school, not since
•“NRA supporter”: absolutely true
•social conservative: mixed. Opposes gay marriage, BUT vetoed a bill
that would have denied benefits to employees in same-sex relationships
(said she did this because it was unconsitutional).
•pro-creationism: mixed. Supports it, BUT did nothing as Governor to
promote it.
•“Pro-life”: mixed. Knowingly gave birth to a Down’s syndrome baby
BUT declined to call a special legislative session on some pro-life
•“Experienced”: Some high schools have more students than Wasilla has
residents. Many cities have more residents than the state of Alaska.
No legislative experience other than City Council. Little hands-on
supervisory or managerial experience; needed help of a city
administrator to run town of about 5,000.
•political maverick: not at all
•gutsy: absolutely!
•open & transparent: ??? Good at keeping secrets. Not good at
explaining actions.
•has a developed philosophy of public policy: no
•”a Greenie”: no. Turned Wasilla into a wasteland of big box stores
and disconnected parking lots. Is pro-drilling off-shore and in ANWR.
•fiscal conservative: not by my definition!
•pro-infrastructure: No. Promoted a sports complex and park in a city
without a sewage treatment plant or storm drainage system. Built
streets to early 20th century standards.
•pro-tax relief: Lowered taxes for businesses, increased tax burden on
•pro-small government: No. Oversaw greatest expansion of city
government in Wasilla’s history.
•pro-labor/pro-union. No. Just because her husband works union
doesn’t make her pro-labor. I have seen nothing to support any claim
that she is pro-labor/pro-union.

First, I have long believed in the importance of being an informed
voter. I am a voter registrar. For 10 years I put on student voting
programs in the schools. If you google my name (Anne Kilkenny +
Alaska), you will find references to my participation in local
government, education, and PTA/parent organizations.

Secondly, I've always operated in the belief that "Bad things happen
when good people stay silent". Few people know as much as I do because
few have gone to as many City Council meetings.

Third, I am just a housewife. I don't have a job she can bump me out
of. I don't belong to any organization that she can hurt. But, I am no
fool; she is immensely popular here, and it is likely that this will
cost me somehow in the future: that’s life.

Fourth, she has hated me since back in 1996, when I was one of the 100
or so people who rallied to support the City Librarian against Sarah's
attempt at censorship.

Fifth, I looked around and realized that everybody else was afraid to
say anything because they were somehow vulnerable.

I am not a statistician. I developed the numbers for the increase in
spending & taxation 2 years ago (when Palin was running for Governor)
from information supplied to me by the Finance Director of the City of
Wasilla, and I can't recall exactly what I adjusted for: did I adjust
for inflation? for population increases? Right now, it is impossible
for a private person to get any info out of City Hall--they are
swamped. So I can't verify my numbers.

You may have noticed that there are various numbers circulating for the
population of Wasilla, ranging from my "about 5,000", up to 9,000. The
day Palin’s selection was announced a city official told me that the
current population is about 7,000. The official 2000 census count was
5,460. I have used about 5,000 because Palin was Mayor from 1996 to
2002, and the city was growing rapidly in the mid-90’s.

Anne Kilkenny

Posted by: kim rice | September 13, 2008 11:14 PM | Report abuse

Watching Bay Buchanan try to defend Sarah Palin's interview with Charlie Gibson was almost as entertaining as the interview itself.

There are doctrines and then there are doctrines. The Bush Doctrine is a big one folks - a real big one. Certainly you would expect someone who didn't "blink" when asked to be VP, to know that one.

It was easy for her; and everyone she hired to do her job for her; to cover up her inexperience in Alaska but she has no idea what our country is really about or what we need. Bad choice John.

Posted by: Peakmom | September 13, 2008 11:05 PM | Report abuse

I want to believe that Palin could run this country. However, this did not help. I cannot imagine Palin negotiating with heads of states. D-

Posted by: Chris | September 13, 2008 11:03 PM | Report abuse

Good grief! She failed! Totally unprepared and not ready for primetime. She can memorize answers, no doubt about that! But a possible president should be more nuanced and thoughtful on the issues. Not a parrot! The 'Bush Doctrine' question was just so revealing. Deer in the headlights!! Frightening.

Of course it is frightening to think that people will actually pull the lever for McCain and Palin. I am scared of Palin and dismayed with McCain! HOW could McCain choose this person above all others to be his VP??? Says TONS about MCCAIN'S JUDGMENT, don't you think?? And his obvious LACK of concern for this country's welfare! "Country First???!!!" No, it's MCCAIN FIRST! Picked Palin to woo his right-wing base - and, strangely, Hillary voters!! I understand the base, but not the HRC voters. Palin is the polar opposite of Hillary! Two words should scare any Hillary voter away from McCain/Palin - SUPREME COURT!!!

Palin gets an F! Just not up to speed to be president.

Posted by: Lynn | September 13, 2008 11:01 PM | Report abuse

Palin: F

She continued lying and distorting the truth on camera. Bridge to Nowhere, Ebay, Taxes, Earmarks, etc.

She talked about how her views on abortion and homosexuality were just "personal" and that she wouldn't ever judge anyone and that other people's decisions on these matters were very "sensitive" and "personal" -- AND YET, if she gets her way, a woman raped or a girl impregnanted by incest would NOT be able to make a PERSONAL or SENSITIVE decision!!! In fact, a woman like that wouldn't even have the ability to make the decision "on her own", as Palin's own daughter did.

A TOTAL HYPOCRITE. And yet, people will listen to her and nod their heads and think she's so gracious and reasonable.

If Obama wants to rough things up like the Republicans do and play hard ball like they do, this is what they should do...

Discretely get a 527 to run an ad saying John McCain was brainwashed by Chinese and Russian communists in Vietnam through torture as the son of a high ranking Admiral to infiltrate US leadership and bring the US down. Say he still receives secret implants from ongoing brainwashing sessions in his left cheek and that he's used skin cancer as a cover.

Then say that Sarah Palin is a tool of the Alaskan Independence Party, whose leader can be heard on You Tube saying that their goal is to infiltrate Washington leadership to accomplish their goal of secession from the US.

Make up fake secret tapes of Vladimir Putin talking with a KGB officer saying, "Things in the US election are going as planned. Our man now has the upper hand in polls. We'll have full control in just a few months. The US will soon lose Alaska with the help of our secessionist implants and we will reclaim our territory."

Just run the ads again and again, and get McCain and Palin to deny it, and then start conspiracies and email campaigns saying, "Can patriotic Americans really trust John McCain?"

None of this is true. But, the truth doesn't matter anymore. All is fair in love and war and politics, apparently. Screw the truth and brutalize your fellow citizens to win power for yourself so you can accomplish your narcisstic fantasies.

You can always find enough people to believe a lie. I'm saddened. But, I still want to believe in a place called Hope.

Posted by: MNobserver | September 13, 2008 10:58 PM | Report abuse

I give her an A minus. I thought she handled all of Charlie's curve balls, and there were many.

I also liked the way she showed up Charlie on the so-called "Bush Doctrine." He said there was only one. Actually, most experts say there are six, and she was right to question him on the specificity of his question.

While I have your attention, Obama has an ad out attacking John McCain because he's old. Obama is resorting to ageism now.

Here's why McCain can't use e-mail:

That's true, actually, as Jonah Goldberg explains:

The reason he doesn't send email is that he can't use a keyboard because of the relentless beatings he received from the Viet Cong in service to our country.

From the Boston Globe (March 4, 2000):
McCain gets emotional at the mention of military families needing food stamps or veterans lacking health care. The outrage comes from inside: McCain's severe war injuries prevent him from combing his hair, typing on a keyboard, or tying his shoes. Friends marvel at McCain's encyclopedic knowledge of sports. He's an avid fan - Ted Williams is his hero - but he can't raise his arm above his shoulder to throw a baseball.

Obama ageism attack has unleashed a torrent of outrage; Glenn Reynolds has a roundup here.

This excerpt from a 2000 Forbes article about McCain's pioneering web-based campaign is noteworthy:

In certain ways, McCain was a natural Web candidate. Chairman of the Senate Telecommunications Subcommittee and regarded as the U.S. Senate's savviest technologist, McCain is an inveterate devotee of email. His nightly ritual is to read his email together with his wife, Cindy. The injuries he incurred as a Vietnam POW make it painful for McCain to type. Instead, he dictates responses that his wife types on a laptop. "She's a whiz on the keyboard, and I'm so laborious," McCain admits.

I guess now we'll find out whether Barack Obama is capable of shame.

Posted by: PoliticalPuck | September 13, 2008 10:55 PM | Report abuse

A: Palin doesn't seem corrupted yet by the DC special interests, and as such will get my strongest support. Well done.

Posted by: Chris Baker | September 13, 2008 10:51 PM | Report abuse


She directly answered questions that other politicians weasel on. Also, a comparison of the interview transcript with the televised version shows that what ABC chose to broadcast makes Palin appear more hawkish and less knowledgeable than she really is.

Posted by: Catawba | September 13, 2008 10:44 PM | Report abuse

Palin would get an F from me.

Why? Unlike Obama, Biden, and McCain it is painfully obvious that she has not thought about the issues of the day.

There is no "there" there on substance with Palin. You could tell that her answers were not from her own thought processes, but were simply memorized canned responses from the McCain tutorial staff. She came across as someone who has just not been paying attention to domestic or foreign policy issues.

To have such a blank look on the Bush Doctrine, which even my high school senior son knew of, was just pathetic.

But is the press letting the people know of this woman's lack of preparedness and readiness to possibly be President? For the most part, no. We only have seven weeks left. Is Palin just going to be on Hannity - and appear in the 90 minute debate - before November 4? Will the media STAND for that? We, the people, DEPEND on the press for vetting!! Please do your job and demand - yes demand - that Palin put herself out there lots and lots in the next seven weeks. We have the right to decide if we want to hire her to be a heartbeat away from the presidency!

Posted by: Molly | September 13, 2008 10:41 PM | Report abuse

I thought it was clever on how she turned meeting foreign leaders into a negative.

Dishonest as hell, but clever.

Posted by: DDAWD | September 13, 2008 10:37 PM | Report abuse

Oh, I'm going to add something. I gave her a C, but I didn't address the lack of depth of knowledge. I agree with those who said she seemed like she crammed, but I don't think she came off as any less so than Bush did, so I would think for Repubs, there's not going to be any judgment on that. I'm not sure how independents are looking at it. Independents? What did you think? I disagree with the person who said she did better than Obama, but I suppose it depends on what you're looking for. It's obvious that Obama's knowledge runs deeper and that he's more intellectually sophisticated. Doesn't mean she's not sharp, just not nuanced and that she hasn't spent much time pondering foreign policy, or national concerns.

Posted by: Alyson | September 13, 2008 10:36 PM | Report abuse

sorry, don't watch much TV, I have no idea how she did other than to suggest if she had no idea what the ramifications of the Bush doctrine were, that's not surprising, Bush didn't either.
I read through these posts and all these glowing testimonials to Palin and McCain, the first question I gotta ask is, do you people realize it's McCain who's running for president?
The old guy who votes with Bush 90+% of the time.
I don't know what you think Palin is going to do in the McCain administration but it isn't going to be to appoint conservative judges and champion school prayer, she mostly is going to be asking how McCain is feeling today.
I hate to distract from the effort to distract but don't we already have a president who follows those policies and aren't we more than a little sick of him (and them)?
There isn't really a choice to be made here, if you're tired of Bush you'll vote for Obama because McCain doesn't represent a change from our current course (except he is likely to be more competent). If you're sick of the Republican administration and you let these noisy rubes distract you from that fact, then I guess your dumb enough to deserve what you get.

Posted by: dijetlo | September 13, 2008 10:30 PM | Report abuse

I'll be generous and give her a C- overall. She gets a B+ for style and for doing a great job memorizing her cue cards. It reminds me of a homecoming queen who crammed for a test by reading the cliff notes and squeaking by -- but that's no small feat if you had no clue to begin with. She gets a D for overall knowledge; she must have missed the cliff notes on the Bush doctrine -- even high school civics students know that in 2008. Finally, she gets an F for honesty, particularly on the bridge to nowhere and on earmarks. But most Palin supporters will ignore her lies anyway.
Here's something the mainstream media and the right wing nut jobs miss -- as much as she energized the Republican base, she energized the liberal base to get out the vote for Obama. All of those McCain supporters who are now smirking will wake up on November 5 to President-elect Obama because his "community organizers" are fighting mad and more determined than ever!

Posted by: billbolducinmaine | September 13, 2008 10:25 PM | Report abuse

Grade = D-

Palin looked very mechanical and robotic. Her answers were so unoriginal and scripted and rehearsed it was really difficult to watch. You could almost see her mind "click" when she would go into her pat memorized replies.

Of course, her tutors forgot to clue her in on the Bush Doctrine. Oooops! Now, can you believe that someone who is so confident in her own readiness to be president could have gone six years and NOT heard of the Bush Doctrine???!!! I mean, really! I am a lowly piano teacher but even I have read and heard about the Bush Doctrine!!! Unbelievable! And....SCARY!!!!

And even MORE SCARY is the MSM!!! Many are giving Palin a pass. It is really discouraging to see the press so mute about this woman's obvious lack of intellectual curiosity! (to put it nicely!)

I am rapidly losing respect for many in the media. It is your JOB to raise the bar for someone who could be a heartbeat away from the presidency - or, God forbid - president! Instead, many of the MSM are lowering the bar so much that it has virtually disappeared into the ground! Shameful!

Posted by: Nancy | September 13, 2008 10:18 PM | Report abuse

She had the pressure going in knowing 40 million people were watching her, and after all of the negative press, she knew that there was a strong chance 40% wanted her to fail big time.
Not sure how many of you have done a public speaking event when you knew there was hostility in the audience...not a real easy task unless you have done it a million times.
I think she did better than Obama did on O'Rielly.

Posted by: Adoptive Mom | September 13, 2008 10:09 PM | Report abuse

I think it was satisfactory given her ticket's policies and her level of experience and her newness to the national scene, so I'd give it a C. She had some shaky, slightly defensive moments (Bush doctrine) but she had some more natural, engaging moments, too. I don't agree with her policies and she totally turned into a politician when she talked about the bridge and her earmarks, but she showed she has game, and that she's telegenic, and that she's skilled in politics. I'm not going to vote for her, but I wasn't going to anyway. I just fundamentally disagree with her. But we shouldn't just rip her, except for the whole maverick/straight talker "front." That veil has been lifted.

Posted by: Alyson | September 13, 2008 10:06 PM | Report abuse

My grade for Palin is an F.

Memorized answers. No depth. Clueless at times.

For the media to be making excuses for her is shameful!!

If her name were STEVE Palin, would the media be making excuses for such a dismal performance?

If her name were STEVE Palin, would the media have let HIM go 14 days WITHOUT a SINGLE UNSCRIPTED WORD?

If her name were STEVE Palin, would the media be ridiculing Steve for not appearing on the Sunday morning shows - or for not holding a PRESS CONFERENCE as every other little known VP candidate has done for the past 30 years?

If her name were STEVE Palin, would McCain have CHOSEN HIM??? Of course not!!!!

Posted by: Gail | September 13, 2008 10:00 PM | Report abuse

Sorry folks, it was a pathetic effort to seem informed, and if you think Charles Gibson's questions were tough, they weren't!

She was doing an interview on American TV, not dealing with foreign leaders, her total lack of knowledge of foreign affairs is of great concern to all Americans.

God help America if she should have to actually deal with the Russian premier on a international crisis, not withstanding the fact she can see Russia on a clear day from the Aleutian Islands.

Are you really willing to put the safety and security of your family, your country, the future of America in these hands.

Please put aside your party allegiences, your glass ceiling barriers, and use your common sense, the future of America depends on it.

Posted by: larry the cable guy | September 13, 2008 9:58 PM | Report abuse

I give Charlie Gibson a Z considering his lies:

I give ABC a Z considering their creative editing:

And, I give the WaPo a Z considering the fact that they have not, AFAIK, pointed either of those out.

The WaPo, ABC, and Gibson are all just untrustworthy hacks.

Posted by: 24AheadDotCom | September 13, 2008 9:52 PM | Report abuse

C -

...and I think that's generous. One could see her flipping through her mental rolodex to give "this answer" to "that question." McCain made a reckless choice for political purposes. There is no way I can vote for that ticket.

Posted by: CTgirl | September 13, 2008 9:50 PM | Report abuse

I give her a C- at best. She's clearly thought -- or been coached -- about foreign policy and the complexities of executive leadership and, let's face it, she more or less held her own with Charlie Gibson.

But first let's consider the venue itself. She dared not go up against Bryan Williams who would eat her alive. And if she was shown up by Katie Couric how would that make her look? Since the obvious choice, Fox News, doesn't have a nightly news program the McCain campaign took the lesser of all evils. Nobody in the punditocracy counts Charlie Gibson in the same catagory as Williams, Brokaw, Bob Schieffer or Wolf Blitzer let alone the late Tim Russert. At best he's a tough version of Larry King.

So she looses points for the venue, but even then she really didn't keep up with Charlie.

She totally missed the reference to the so-called Bush Doctrine, pretty amazing since it's been the centerpiece of the Bush Administartaion foreign policy since 2002 and the rationalization for the preemptive invasion of Iraq. Makes you wonder if Charlie had asked her to name some world leaders (president of Breat Britain or Canada) how would she do?

She was less than candid about Troopergate. And she still claimed to have opposed the Bridge to Nowhere after she supported it. It would have been interesting if Charlie had asked her if she though Obama had called her a pig when he made the lipstick comment.

She stumbled and bumbled on. In the tradition of George W. Bush's "gentleman's C" I would give her the same grade. She should have failed, but we'll call it a C- so she can claim credit for the course.

But the thought of her being one bad biopsy away from the presidency sends shivers up my spine.

Posted by: Tic Doulouroux | September 13, 2008 9:46 PM | Report abuse


Her briefers were the stars of the neo-con movement, which seems to have gotten inside John McCain's brain.

Even so, it looked like a scene out of that old Eighties movie, "Working Girl." Or, as Matt Damon said, "a bad Disney movie."

Posted by: scrivener | September 13, 2008 9:45 PM | Report abuse

Ha ha. :) You're an optimist. That's fine. So am I. I'm just hoping we don't have another "hanging chad" incident.

Posted by: Mary | September 13, 2008 9:43 PM | Report abuse

I give her a C- at best. She's clearly thought -- or been coached -- about foreign policy and the complexities of executive leadership and, let's face it, she more or less held her own with Charlie Gibson.

But first let's consider the venue itself. She dared not go up against Bryan Williams who would eat her alive. And if she was shown up by Katie Couric how would that make her look? Since the obvious choice, Fox News, doesn't have a nightly news program the McCain campaign took the lesser of all evils. Nobody in the punditocracy counts Charlie Gibson in the same catagory as Williams, Brokaw, Bob Schieffer, or even Wolf Blitzer. At best he's a tough version of Larry King.

So she looses points for the venue, but even then she really didn't keep up with Charlie.

She totally missed the reference to the so-called Bush Policy, pretty amazing since it's been the centerpiece of the Bush Administartaion foreign policy since 2002 and the rationalization for the preemptive invasion of Iraq. Makes you wonder if Charlie had asked her to name some world leaders (president of Breat Britain or Canada) how would she do?

She was less than candid about Troopergate. And she still claimed to have opposed the Bridge to Nowhere after she supported it. It would have been interesting if Charlie had asked her if she though Obama had called her a pig when he made the lipstick comment.

She stumbled and bumbled on. In the tradition of George W. Bush's "gentleman's C" I would give her the same grade. She should have failed, but we'll call it a C- so she can claim credit for the course.

But the thought of her being one bad biopsy away from the presidency sends shivers up my spine.

Posted by: Tic Doulouroux | September 13, 2008 9:42 PM | Report abuse

Named the best site for naked pictures of amputees:

Posted by: 37th&OAvenue | September 13, 2008 9:42 PM | Report abuse

We just had 8000 people turn out for a Palin event in Carson City, Nevada. This on the same day as the Reno Air Show, which attracts 10's of thousands. The Palin venue only held 3000, so the thousands who failed to arrive many hours in advance had to watch on screens outside.
Lots of moms and daughters. Absolutely crazy!

Posted by: adam | September 13, 2008 9:38 PM | Report abuse

I give her a C- at best. She's clearly thought -- or been coached -- about foreign policy and the complexities of executive leadership and, let's face it, she more or less held her own with Charlie Gibson.

But first let's consider the venue itself. She dared not go up against Bryan Williams who would eat her alive. And if she was shown up by Katie Couric how would that make her look? And since the obvious choice, Fox News, doesn't have a nightly news program the McCain campaign took the lesser of all evils. Nobody in the punditocracy counts Charlie Gibson in the same catagory as Williams, Brokaw, Bob Schieffer, or even Wolf Blitzer. At best he's a tough version of Larry King.

So she looses points for the venue, but even then she really didn't keep up with Charlie.

She totally missed the reference to the so-called Bush Policy, pretty amazing since it's been the certerpiece of the Bush Administartaion foreign policy since 2002 and the rationalization for the preemptive invasion of Iraq. Makes you wonder if Charlie had asked her to name some world leaders (president of Breat Britain or Cancada) how would she do?

She was less than candid about Troopergate. And she still claimed to have opposed the Bridge to Nowhere after she supported it. It would have been interesting if Charlie had asked her if she though Obama had called her a pig when he made the lipstick comment.

She stumbled and bumbled on. In the tradition of George W. Bush's "gentleman's C" I would give her the same grade. She should have failed, but we'll call it a C- so she can claim credit for the course.

But the thought of her being one bad biopsy away from the presidency sends shivers up my spine.

Posted by: Tic Doulouroux | September 13, 2008 9:36 PM | Report abuse

For the sake of our Great Country, I hope those of you threatening to vote McCain/Palin, because "people are picking on her" - or for reasons beyond your control, or by some stretch of imagination, you actually believe that either of them are remotely qualified, PLEASE, for the Love of God, come to your senses... this is NOT just about your team winning, at all cost - this is about the life of our Country!

McCain is qualified? How? by voting with Bush 90% of the time... by flip-flopping on virtually every policy he has every been for or against... by telling us he wants to stay at war (which is actually an occupation)... by making statements that at best are mis-leading or worst, what seem to be out-right lies - even if they are little white ones... Don't we, as American's, deserve better then this?

McCain's campaigning seems to consist of talking about what happened to him 30 years ago, putting out stories about Obama that are not true or at best deceptive, and not ever really talking about himself, and what HE will do to change this Country, specifically... No Really! I'm Serious! One of the things I heard him say in his acceptance speech was "I will cut taxes where I can"... can he be any more vague? Why not just say - If I Can I Will, But Who Know's? but it doesn't really matter, because all anyone heard was "cutting taxes" - and he will, but it won't effect you or me, unless you're making Million$ per year.

Please people, there are so many more important things going in this Country, and in the World, besides abortion, gays and g u n s... or that Hillary is not the Dems candidate, or the VP...

How many people are out of work or working 2 or 3 jobs to make ends meet, losing their homes, paying way too much for gas (while the gas companies make unheard of profits), our Country is spending (rather, borrowing)BILLIONS of $$$ per week on an occupation we should not be a part of, and this list could go on and on...

Obama was not my first choice, but McCain/Palin = Not Qualified = 4 More Years of the Same = We Can Not Continue as a Country This Way = Obama has to be my choice! = and should be yours, if you truly Love This Country!


THINK... This is the most important election in decades!

Posted by: Curt - | September 13, 2008 9:36 PM | Report abuse

"probability", not "possibility"

Posted by: viejo1 | September 13, 2008 9:34 PM | Report abuse

Heck, Bush was sort of elected twice. Anything is possible.

Posted by: Mary | September 13, 2008 9:31 PM | Report abuse

When Sarah takes office, the waters will begin to recede, and the earth will begin to heal. Give her an "A" for awesome!!

Posted by: Peter Parrott | September 13, 2008 9:28 PM | Report abuse

My grade = D-

It was painful to watch. So obvious that she was merely parroting rehearsed, memorized answers. No original thought. When the Bush doctrine came up she was stumped. Total blank, deer in the headlights look. (or as I heard someone on TV say, CARIBOU in the headlights look!!)

An empty pantsuit. Not ready to be VP - or, heaven forbid, President!

Posted by: Katie | September 13, 2008 9:26 PM | Report abuse


Fair enough.

Just realize that in all reality the next woman candidate to have a chance will be Chelsea in 2020.

I'm not kidding, either.

I'm glad that you have at least become enured to the probability of a McCain/Palin victory.

Posted by: viejo1 | September 13, 2008 9:26 PM | Report abuse

scared america

Lay off the hemp and the mike moore movies. "You buggin'."

You lived through gore's defeat, then kerry's. You can make it through pobama's loss, as well.

Yes, you can!

Posted by: viejo1 | September 13, 2008 9:22 PM | Report abuse

obama and palin were both
chosen for their lack
of a record; in hopes that
there would be no negatives.
And this forum is a good
example of the hate filled
political mindset in america.
McCain took his abuse in 2000'
and of course; Biden couldnt get
enough votes to be hall monitor
in a grade school, but people except
his rambling insanity.
This is really a forum on
the american people and the
media. Hate filled, small minded,
intellectuals without an ounce
of common sense.

Posted by: USA3 | September 13, 2008 9:21 PM | Report abuse

I'm not kidding Viejo. There are many women who do not share your view. I'd rather wait for the real thing and vote for Hillary in the next election if possible, or at least the next qualified female candidate. I don't hate Palen, or even feel she is not a bright woman, but I don't believe she is ready.

Posted by: Mary | September 13, 2008 9:21 PM | Report abuse

Governor Palin gets an A. She handled Charlie Gibson's condescending and often disrespectful manner admirable. She showed conviction and poise.

Posted by: KG | September 13, 2008 9:20 PM | Report abuse


Acting as if she is ready when she is clearly not ready is the worst (but still the only option she has). This makes me very nervous.

***She has no perspective on NATO expansion whatsoever! NATO is not some charity effort for random countries! Its a security alliance where each country brings something to the table. We have successfully built the strongest & most intimidating wall of security in Europe, and it has sustained through our cold war victory.

BUT Georgia only brings insecurity and provokes the threat of war, for little to zero gain. Of course, we should support Georgia but to throw around the NATO membership like its an NRA card is inexcusable. Its like she's on the high school debate team.

This is a dick measuring contest for Russia, but not for us. We already have the big dick! Over-extension is bane of every world power. She is a liability and will obviously squander our power.

Posted by: Buck Davis | September 13, 2008 9:20 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin gets an A++!!
This interveiw once again confirms why all of america is energized over McCains pick. Palin is witty, gutsy, and genuine. You can see charlie gibson's frustration as he tries to get her to stumble and she always gets through it! She is something none of the (liberal)media could ever have expected;she is a woman with high family morals and a strong stance on ofshore drilling and securing are borders. And her down-syndrom baby-thats driving them crazy!!

Posted by: Aryeh | September 13, 2008 9:18 PM | Report abuse

Bush Lied, People Died.


Posted by: Scared American | September 13, 2008 9:17 PM | Report abuse

Bush Lied, People Died.


Posted by: Scared American | September 13, 2008 9:16 PM | Report abuse

I have to give Palin an F. She showed us that she has not been paying attention to national and international news! She was absolutely clueless on the Bush Doctrine. Now I'm sure many watching were equally clueless, but they are not running to be VP!! OMG!! To think that someone who could be Presient Palin at any second after 12pm January 20, 2009 would have that "Deer in the Headlights Look" on the Bush Doctrine is just downright scary!!! Does she read newspapers? TIME? NEWSWEEK? I know she refuses to APPEAR on 'Meet the Press,' but has she ever watched it, or any political show? Governors can run for higher office - but you know that, for example, Clinton and even Reagan had well-thought-out opinions on foreign policy. And domestic policy. Palin sounds like she has had a crash course on both. Just skimming the surface, just enough to get by. Absolutely zero in-depth knowledge. After eight years of Bush, do we really want to risk it with Palin? Some in the media have not just LOWERED the bar for her - they have BURIED IT!!! Shame on them for making excuses, calling Charlie Gibson sexist, etc. Look, she is just not ready for this. Period. She's in over her head. And McCain should be slammed for choosing her.

Posted by: Heather | September 13, 2008 9:13 PM | Report abuse

She says Saakashvili and Zardari whithout flinching.

She's ready for the nuclear codes!

Posted by: piktor | September 13, 2008 9:11 PM | Report abuse


Every white female voter in this country will pull the lever for Sarah's ticket. You know that, mary. You know you're going to do it yourself, whether you admit it or hide it.
There is no real, honest white woman in this country who would rather have a man vp than a woman vp if given a chance.
Please. Who are you trying to kid?

Had the dims picked hillary, or if The One, pobama, had have picked her, it would have been a choice you would not have had to make.

Posted by: viejo1 | September 13, 2008 9:11 PM | Report abuse

Palin was very upfront and honest.
She doesnt seem to define herself
by what others stand for. Very
unlike Freshman Sen. Obama.
Who will tell you what others
believe. what does he believe?
He must believe in McCain,
that is all he talks about.

Posted by: USA3 | September 13, 2008 9:10 PM | Report abuse


Sarah gets an A+

The democrats are so mean - they are angry liberals.


Sarah Palin just starting running for Vice President - the national media is just getting to know her - I can tell you this - I feel 1000% more comfortable with her in command in a National Security crisis as compared to Obama.

Obama has been in war games (scenarios which are run as part of seminars) as legislative training -

Other Senators have commented on how Obama hesitates when asked to make a decision, refuses to order the use of troops (in a war game situation) and will not order the bombs to be dropped (in a war game scenario.)

The Senators who have made public statements expressed doubt that Obama had the ability to handle an actual crisis.

Sarah Palin has the natural ability to lead this nation in a National Security Crisis - the nation can have confidence in her


Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 9:08 PM | Report abuse

Sarah gets an "A+"

First her legs looked great.

Now on to the less important stuff:

Charlie Gibson blew the interview with his obvious "gotcha" attitude.

Bush Doctrine? Ask even Georgetown Foreign Service Alumni what it is and many may not be able to tell you.

Sarah Palin - for her first hostile interview - did excellent. She clearly expressed that she will be tough in a situation which involved National Security.

A President is flanked by Generals and Staff who will brief her on the technical issues of what doctrine is this and what doctrine is that.

Sarah has the right instincts: She will order the shooting first and ask Charlie Gibson about the doctrines later.

The Palin Doctrine:

1) Yes it was their fault.

2) Yes they deserved it.

3) Yes I don't care what the doctrine says.


Posted by: 37th&OStreet | September 13, 2008 9:06 PM | Report abuse


Voted one of the Nation's Top 5 Blogs for the 2008 Election:


Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 9:06 PM | Report abuse


Everyone giving her low grades here are from Obama campaign headquarters

you guys get an F for grammar by the way.


Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 9:05 PM | Report abuse

I thought Gov. Palin did fine.
She even stated her positions.
Against Gun Laws, Against Abortion,
Against more Government.
And she did it honesty
and without talking in circles.
One Up on obama.
If you asked him the time,
you would need an hour to
hear the answer, 'well that
would depend, on umm ummm
alot of things, that might be
above my pay grade, and if your
in berlin or Jakarta"

Posted by: simonsays1 | September 13, 2008 9:05 PM | Report abuse

SP went to 6 different schools before she finally completed her degree. Her extent of foreign policy knowledge is that she can see traces of Russia from her backyard. That sounds like a response you would expect from a contestant on a pagent show. Her ignorance knows no boundaries. If America makes her the next VP will see attacks from other nations on a monthly basis. To hear people say that she is qualified reinforces why America does not rank as one of top intellectual nations in the world.

Posted by: Lee | September 13, 2008 9:02 PM | Report abuse

Let's grade pobama while we're at it:
Socialist, Alinsky-style "after-school agitation" organizer-F
Association with Antoin Rezko-F
Association with Louis Farrakhan-F
Association with Jerry Wright-F
Association with Michelle Obama-F(-)
Avoidied military service-F
Gives less than 1% of income to charity-F
Flip-flopped on most platform issues-F
Ex-muslim student at a radical islamic school-F(-)
Stopped a bill which would allow children to live-F(-)
Votes "Present" most of the time-F
Wrote two memoirs after having done absolutely nothing of import, serving 150 days as a junior senator-F
No leadership experience-F

Scared spitless of Sarah Palin-A(+++)

Posted by: viejo1 | September 13, 2008 9:02 PM | Report abuse

"If McCain wanted to choose a woman, why not Kay Bailey Hutchison? Or Condi Rice?" -Maggie

You're absolutely right Maggie. The reason is obvious, she was intended to rev up the Christian Right base, and McCain accomplished his goal. It's a shame they don't vote on issues and what is best for the country as a whole. And you're right, a real Hillary supporter would never vote the McCain/Palen ticket. He also assumed a woman on the ticket would lure Hillary supporters. I find it hard to believe a woman would vote on that reason alone.

Posted by: Mary | September 13, 2008 9:02 PM | Report abuse

The entire interview was one "Deer in the headlights" moment after another.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 8:57 PM | Report abuse

D-. She looked like every high school student called on to discuss homework they hadn't done. She did manage to recall her canned bites, and generally trotted them out, sometimes in response to things that they had no relation to.

We all know, despite all the Saturday-morning quarterbacking, she had no idea what the Bush Doctrine is. Clearly she is an intelligent woman, but just as clearly, she was totally out of her depth.

It is pathetic that some commenters think she did well because she didn't break. This woman is running for Vice President of the United States. The job doesn't have a private capsule to keep you safe from questions.

No serious employer would give her the job.

Posted by: Helen | September 13, 2008 8:54 PM | Report abuse


Grading your spelling and syntax: F(-)

Posted by: viejo1 | September 13, 2008 8:49 PM | Report abuse

Palin gets an F from me. She is just not ready for primetime. Her answers were by rote. Nothing thoughtful. No depth. No indication that she really had ever paid much attention to foreign affairs. If McCain wanted to choose a woman, why not Kay Bailey Hutchison? Or Condi Rice? I don't agree with their opinions but at least I know they HAVE opinions on the issues, and not just a series of memorized answers. Palin just came across as a total lightweight, intellectually. Go back and just LISTEN to her answers. Now I can understand WHY the McCain camp kept her hidden from the press - can't you? What an insult to the American people for McCain to want to put this woman a heartbeat away from the presidency. It was, of course, a POLITICAL 'ROVIAN' move, thinking Hillary voters would go for Palin! What fools! Any Hillary supporter who would vote for Palin was NOT a true Hillary supporter! Anti-choice? Anti-equal pay? Clueless on foreign policy? Come on! McCain must be a real chauvinist to believe women will vote for just ANY woman!! Palin gets a failing grade from me.

Posted by: Maggie | September 13, 2008 8:48 PM | Report abuse

Even if there are different "Bush Doctrines" she should have known at least one of them. Platitudes like "We have a right to defend ourselves" are just too shallow. Accepting war as a possible outcome of the Russian reaction in Georgia is unacceptable; even Bush rejected it. The only answer that made sense was the one about energy being a foundation of foreign affairs policy. Maybe a D for effort.

Posted by: James K. Bachmann | September 13, 2008 8:47 PM | Report abuse

Is there anything lower than an F? Just wondering.

Posted by: Peakmom | September 13, 2008 8:45 PM | Report abuse

homer I am an Obama supporter and I think Palin is a lair, but so is McSenile. Your view on women shows why you need one to make you a sandwich , I don't think you are smart enough to do it on your own.Connie from Indiana

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 8:44 PM | Report abuse

C+, but I'm sure someone will use the bell curve and make it seem like she deserved an A.

Posted by: NoSurprises | September 13, 2008 8:44 PM | Report abuse


As one pundit said, she passed the second false test of her fitness for office -- the first being her speech.

The MSM is setting the bar so low for her, I could accost a drunk in a Georgetown bar and submit him to their standards and he'd be pronounced qualified.

How anyone can listen to this woman parrot the words McCain and his handlers spoon-feed her, and not have chills run up your spine at the prospect of her being president, is a mystery to me.

Out of her depth. Unfit for office. Why doesn't one of you so-called "experts" say that out loud -- when you KNOW the mic is on, unlike Peggy Noonan, who only said it when she thought the mic was off?

Russert or Schieffer would have eaten her alive, as will Biden when they square off in October (if she's still on the ticket by then).

Posted by: jac13 | September 13, 2008 8:44 PM | Report abuse

homer I am an Obama supporter and I think Palin is a lair, but so is McSenile. Your view on women shows why you need one to make you a sandwich , I don't think you are smart enough to do it on your own.Connie from Indiana

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 8:44 PM | Report abuse

your right Anonymous;
there really is nothing
new in this campaign.
both parties have
betrayed us.
I don't like Ron Paul
It's a toss up.
Flip a coin?

Posted by: USA3 | September 13, 2008 8:39 PM | Report abuse

She is a dumb broad,
come on'
we all know a womans place
is in the kitchen,
and making me a sandwich.
Hillary was much better,
she knew how to look
the other way;
like a good woman should.
I mean, bush doctrine?
she didnt have a clue,
oh, russia is right
over there charlie'
like she knows which
way is east.
I dont buy it!

Posted by: homer | September 13, 2008 8:35 PM | Report abuse

TomTom is a PUMA...PUMA is flooding the polls to make it appear McBush/Palin are the favorites.

All us DEMOCRATS must remember is that we have the majority and VOTE BARACK OBAMA!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 8:35 PM | Report abuse

Grading her strickly as a VP candidate, I give her a D+. Simply not qualified; cannot be even trusted on her own in front of media; only repeating talking points w/o any depth of knowledge.

Grading her as Sarah Palin, newly enacted Governor of Alaska (and not running for VP), I'd give her a B-.

Posted by: JeremyHeiken | September 13, 2008 8:34 PM | Report abuse

an A.

she knew that Gibson had no idea what the Bush Doctrine was

and called him on it.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 8:33 PM | Report abuse

USA 3 : less government? we have had repubs in the white for 7 and 1/2 years. How has that worked for us ? John McSenile is running on Bush policy, period.John McSenile and Sarah Palin are lying to the people and there are people who are believing every lie.Now Palins administration in Alaska is trying to block the subpoenas for her husband and 11 staffers. Sounds like Rove and the Bush administration.More of the same, people are stupid.Connie from indiana

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 8:31 PM | Report abuse

I will give him a D- on experience,
and a F on international policy,
Iran is a threat!
this is a forum on grading
the presidential candidates, right?
I mean there is not a separate
vote for Vice President in the
united states. Does the media know this?

Posted by: simonsays1 | September 13, 2008 8:30 PM | Report abuse

Tomtom, I would have voted for Hillary if she were still on the ticket, but I'm not going to vote for someone just because that person is a woman. I expect the same high caliber of knowledge from my female politicians as I do their male counterparts. McCain did not place her on the ticket for her brain, but for her beliefs, which are counter to Hillary's stand on many issues. Do you really believe this woman is even half as knowledgeable as Hillary? Yes,Palen is getting a hard time, but you can blame that on McCain. Politics has always been an ugly business, or haven't you noticed that?

Posted by: Mary | September 13, 2008 8:27 PM | Report abuse

I don't know what you were watching. But, Charlie was the interviewer and to say he was hostile! What a laugh! Is'nt Palin the Baracuda? Charlie was showing a human reaction to Palin's nasty demeaner!

Another joke "impeach Obama?" PUMA hard at work with their rhetoric.


Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 8:26 PM | Report abuse

Conseratives are stupid,
just watch msnbc or cnn;
only smart trendy folks
vote democrat.
It is a liberal smear
rovian, as they would say.
Issues, less government,
less government, less

Posted by: USA3 | September 13, 2008 8:25 PM | Report abuse

Bush Doctrine aside, this woman sounds like:

1. She doesn't know that Iraq had nothing to do with Sept. 11th. (Our boys were in Iraq to get “the enemies who planned and carried out and rejoiced in the death of thousands of Americans.”)


2. She is pretty glib about a possible 2nd Cold War, or worse, a 3rd World War.

She answered the questions she was hoping to get ("second guess Israel" x3), claimed her proximity to Russia was foreign policy experience (and didn't actually answer his question about that, either), and mispronounced "nuclear" a few times.

She gets a D from me.

She promised to get terrorists and I'm sure that's enough for most.

Posted by: Drew | September 13, 2008 8:20 PM | Report abuse

I am a huge Clinton supporter. Once she was out, I was crushed. Every time I hear people spewing hatred towards Palin, it makes me more sure my vote goes Republican.

I wish people would stop spewing so much hatred toward Palin. They haven't won an election when their party was so divided. My vote fractured when Obama turned his back on Hillary. I hope Obama loses and Hillary gets the nomination in 2012.

Posted by: tomtom | September 13, 2008 8:16 PM | Report abuse

E for effort
F for formulaic answers
D for depth of knowledge
C for cute
B for bull
A for Are you kidding me?

Posted by: JD | September 13, 2008 8:10 PM | Report abuse

I think poor Reagan just rolled in his grave.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 8:08 PM | Report abuse

It's good that Lori has such low expectations, but for many of us who have lived through the eight years of the dumbing down of the presidency, eight is enough.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 8:06 PM | Report abuse

Palin rocks. Who you got? Biden? Please. She is tanned ready and on the ticket! Reagan in a skirt! Democrats your next 16 years are Republican baby!

Posted by: the entire midwest | September 13, 2008 8:05 PM | Report abuse


The only reason I am not giving her an F is because she actually agreed to do the interview.

She has proven that she knows absolutely nothing about the economy or foreign policy and her lies were on display for all of America to see.

If these lunatics get elected, we as a nation will truly deserve the results we get.


Posted by: Andrew | September 13, 2008 8:04 PM | Report abuse


There's nothing cute or populist about ignorance regarding the singlemost important foreign policy the United States is grappling with. Anyone who doesn't know what the Bush Doctrine is should be in school, not in the White House.

Posted by: Andrew | September 13, 2008 7:58 PM | Report abuse

Gas prices went up a DOLLAR across the NATION. Is McBush and crew working on their retirement fund?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 7:56 PM | Report abuse

First of all, McCain/Palin is a TEAM. McCain doesn't need her to be experienced, because HE is experienced. If he does happen to die in office (as the left is slobbering about), then she will pick a seasoned Veep, just like Obama did.

Second, the one thing that she "gets" is that the wrongdoer is the wrongdoer, and that sovereign nations have the right to protect themselves. She will not go around apologizing to the world that we are America, and she will not criticize us outside our borders. She also pointed out that there would have to be LEGITIMATE intelligence for military defense to be taken.

She did fine. Yeah, she seemed to get Charlie's hostility, and she also drew a tone that let him know she wasn't going to be cowed by his patronizing and hostile attitude.


Posted by: Lori Kempen | September 13, 2008 7:56 PM | Report abuse

Impeach Obama? They should have impeached Bush, but no one is holding their breath. What a joke that is.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 7:53 PM | Report abuse


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Posted by: WillNotBeFooledByObamaNATION | September 13, 2008 7:49 PM | Report abuse


Posted by: Wally | September 13, 2008 7:44 PM | Report abuse

Charlie, "Have you ever met a head of a Foreign State?"

Palin, "first it was, I visited troops in germany and kuwait and it was a trip of a life time...blah!, blah!, blah!"

Charlie, than politely asked the question again?

Palin, "I have not! if you go back in history and if you ask that question of many V.P.'s, they may have the same answer that I just gave you!

During this bullsh*t response, Palin gave that left eye wink, as if to say "GOTCHA CHARLIE!"

So many U.S. V.P.'s never met heads of state? Can some road scholar tell me what she meant?

(R) party can continue to threaten us to "stop picking on Palin"

Well (R) Party, Myself and MILLIONS OF other AMERICANS are'nt afraid of your threats!



Posted by: opp88 | September 13, 2008 7:40 PM | Report abuse

F- (can I give her a G+?)

Are you f---ing kidding me!!???!??!?

The idea of this woman having her finger on th button is absolutely frightening. I mean litterally scary!!!! She was flusterd by simple questions. She was easilly irritated. And I mean every one doesn't have to know what the "Bush Doctrine" is BUT THE NEXT VICE PRESIDENT OF THE US DAMN SURE BETTER!! Now I don't think she is qualified to be the Governer of Alaska. The whole convention, the Republicans mantra was "Country First". What would you say a party that put forth a second in command as drastically unprepared as this puts first? Right....POWER. Not only should she be disqualified for contention, McCain should be disqualified as well just for choosing her. I donated $50 to Obama immediately after the first interview and ran upstairs to hug my daughter. I was litterally that scared.I beleive that any Republican who still supports this ticket after that interview does not put country first. They put politics first. I mean really. Can you imagine this woman negotiating with Putin??? Can you imaging her as our leader after Sept.11th???!!!?? Can you imagine her negotiating a treaty with N.Korea??? I can't see her going on Meet the Press. I will admit that I am pre-dispoesed to supporting Democrats and will probably never vote for a Republican (Maybe Colin Powell depending on who else what on the ticket). But all partisonship aside. This is horrifying... for family ...and my country.

Posted by: wally | September 13, 2008 7:38 PM | Report abuse

Did anybody Notice our Ambassador was kciked out of Venezuela and they are recalling theirs because they are drunk with

Oil based political power because of Demand

the Russian's are having joint military exercises with then in the near future

violating the only Doctrine in American History that counts "The Monroe Doctrine" which if you are not familiar forbids European or influence from other countries outside of our hemisphere.

Posted by: Are you better off now then you were 8 years ago? | September 13, 2008 7:35 PM | Report abuse

First of all, McCain/Palin is a TEAM. McCain doesn't need her to be experienced, because HE is experienced. If he does happen to die in office (as the left is slobbering about), then she will pick a seasoned Veep, just like Obama did.

Second, the one thing that she "gets" is that the wrongdoer is the wrongdoer, and that sovereign nations have the right to protect themselves. She will not go around apologizing to the world that we are America, and she will not criticize us outside our borders. She also pointed out that there would have to be LEGITIMATE intelligence for military defense to be taken.

She did fine. Yeah, she seemed to get Charlie's hostility, and she also drew a tone that let him know she wasn't going to be cowed by his patronizing and hostile attitude.


Posted by: Lori Kempen | September 13, 2008 7:34 PM | Report abuse

A for composure under fire.Like Obama would give a better answer to the doctrine question! I's over Kum-Ba-Yas.Even Camille understand this.And even worse you are going to blow congress also.

Posted by: whippersnapper1 | September 13, 2008 7:33 PM | Report abuse

37th&O, do you have source citations for any of the insinuations you've made? In particular, I'd love to see the article in which other Senators comment on Obama's "war games" performance.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 7:29 PM | Report abuse

I still say is Palin really the BEST McCain could have given to us - he who says he puts "Country First?" After watching her with Charlie Gibson, struggling to remember her tutored answers on foreign policy, it really made me question MCCAIN'S judgment. Palin may be a quick memorizer. But there is so much MORE to governing than simply learning "talking points." These times need someone who has THOUGHT about these issues. Someone who sees the subtleties and nuances. Someone who has PAID ATTENTION to what goes on in the world!! Her "deer in the headlights" look on the Bush Doctrine was so telling. And this whole right-wing fundamentalist closed-minded mentality is really frightening. Someone who would ban books, as will be reported in tomorrow's NY Times, should not be a heartbeat away from the presidency. McCain sold his soul with this Palin pick. He should be ashamed. My grade for Palin is a D-. My grade for McCain is an F for choosing Palin.

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Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 7:26 PM | Report abuse

On reflection, if the test were is she smarter than a third-grader, I think I'd have to go with D+. Even third-graders are expected to be honest, so her B in third-grade competence gets averaged against F and F for honesty and temperament.

Posted by: James in CA | September 13, 2008 7:22 PM | Report abuse


I was looking for three things: is she competent, is she trustworthy, does she have the right temperament for the job? Not even close on any of those.

When softball questions such as how you stand on the Bush Doctrine are considered "gotcha", you know someone is clueless. What's next, "gotcha" questions about the Truman doctrine, Keynesian economics, the commerce clause? I don't want a VP or President who can be "gotten" so easily.

Then she couldn't even be honest about her blatent ignorence but tried (poorly) to bluff her way through. I can see that inept tap-dancing working really well against Putin or Chavez or Ahmadinejad, can't you?

Finally, anyone who doesn't have serious doubts about their ability to handle the most important job in the world is just plain nuts, and someone who blithely accepts without pause or seeming concern that our nuclear incincernation is a possible outcome we should consider is just plain terrifying.

F, F, and F, for an average of F.

This isn't are you smarter than a third-grader.
In that case, I'd give her a B.

Posted by: James in CA | September 13, 2008 7:17 PM | Report abuse


Her briefers were the stars of the neo-con movement, which seems to have gotten inside John McCain's brain.

Even so, it looked like a scene out of that old Eighties movie, "Working Girl." Or, as Matt Damon said, "a bad Disney movie."

Posted by: scrivener | September 13, 2008 7:16 PM | Report abuse


She didn't make any mistakes, so how can you give her anything less? We found out in retrospect that her asking for clarification on the Bush Doctrine was entirely reasonable, since it has had at least 4 different meanings over the years. Charlie Gibson's interpretation of it was wrong, and she still gave a very reasonable reply. And she didn't stutter once, unlike Obama.

Posted by: John | September 13, 2008 7:14 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Nancy | September 13, 2008 7:11 PM | Report abuse


As a former professor, I was reminded of a student who did not know the material and tried to fit the few rehearsed answers that were known into the questions, whether they did or not. She tried to use flirtatious gestures and disconnected words to get her through questions that she could not answer and did not know the depth of. This was a scary performance -- we are not looking for a beauty pageant contestant or an American Idol, but a Vice President at a time when our country is in desperate straights.

Posted by: Archaeologist | September 13, 2008 7:10 PM | Report abuse

The Grade A-
I thought she did great.The minus was given
because she seemed a little nervous at first.
For her first interview,she was great.Old
Charlie kept trying to give her the left hook all night,but she seemed to block his punch.
I am positive her next interview will be a total KO."NEVER UNDERESTIMATE THE POWER OF A

Posted by: Nancy | September 13, 2008 7:05 PM | Report abuse

I am a teacher, and if a student had given me answers like that in a paper, I would have given her a C. Nothing really wrong with the answers, but they were obviously straight "out of the textbook", as it were.

However, I think it prudent to hold aspirants to national office to a much, much higher standard.

Posted by: Finn | September 13, 2008 6:56 PM | Report abuse

So many dirty politics in the media. I just cant wait for the debates. Dems are gonna get owned.

Posted by: McCain | September 13, 2008 6:54 PM | Report abuse


It seems unlikely that she persuaded many undecideds with her answers. Though, she might have turned off some of the more read on international news off. The main outcome of this interview was it provided additional fodder for the left, to just keep throwing things blindly out there hoping something hits.

Posted by: Brian D Adams | September 13, 2008 6:54 PM | Report abuse

F - She seemed to glare and speak with a disrespectful tone to Charlie Gibson. She was angry that Charlie Gibson didn't believe in her "messiah"-like qualities. This vice-presidential nominee is, in the least sense of the word, deranged at an unfathomable level.

Posted by: Jas | September 13, 2008 6:54 PM | Report abuse

Hey Hillbilly Bob,
If you don't care what the "BUSH DOCTRINE" say's? Why do you care what anyone else say's. If ex-Mayor of N.Y.C. (RUDY) had'nt been shaked up with one of his mistresses that morning and all that year! Mobster RUDY might had prevented 911 and Palin would'nt have been asked the question!

Posted by: opp88 | September 13, 2008 6:51 PM | Report abuse

Was it just me, or were they sitting bizarrely close to each other? I think their knees hit a couple times. Charlie asked some ridiculous questions like "How much smaller would a McCain administration budget be." What? First of all it's not her call, it's McCain's, and secondly, would either party in the middle of a tight election waste time talking about what they were going to do with the administration budget? Thirdly, who cares? I could just see Palin trying to talk to McCain about the administration budget, he'd look at her like she had 2 heads and say something about let's win this thing first. I can think of a lot of questions I'd rather heard the answer to. I thought she looked nervous and uncomfortable. She's a little like Barack perhaps, great at a prepared speech, but struggles to appear as confident with questions, though Barack is better. I'd giver her a "C", for not making any major gaffes, and Charlie a "D", for dumb questions and trying to trap her instead of getting her to expose more of her governing philosophy, I still don't know what it is. Charlie's body posture was horrible, he looked like he had nothing but contempt for her. Conservatives already think the MSM is pulling for Barack, he could at least try and fake like he was happy and felt something other than contempt for her, even indifference would have been an improvement.

Posted by: Ron | September 13, 2008 6:48 PM | Report abuse


Sarah Palin just starting running for Vice President - the national media is just getting to know her - I can tell you this - I feel 1000% more comfortable with her in command in a National Security crisis as compared to Obama.

Obama has been in war games (scenarios which are run as part of seminars) as legislative training -

Other Senators have commented on how Obama hesitates when asked to make a decision, refuses to order the use of troops (in a war game situation) and will not order the bombs to be dropped (in a war game scenario.)

The Senators who have made public statements expressed doubt that Obama had the ability to handle an actual crisis.

Sarah Palin has the natural ability to lead this nation in a National Security Crisis - the nation can have confidence in her


Posted by: 37th&OStreet | September 13, 2008 6:45 PM | Report abuse

She appeased her supporters and gave more fuel for her critics. Gov. Palin also appeared to not look as radical as her prior speeches were have us believe.
Lots of double talk and memorized answers. People can tell she was prepped, but her supporters loved the answers she provided.

Posted by: Evan | September 13, 2008 6:32 PM | Report abuse

I agree with James CH but want to add that I was surprised that she expressed no moment of trepidation about accepting the role and the responsibility.

I do not recall another candidate for prez or VP in my lifetime who was so utterly blase about the potentially awesome task.

Posted by: MarkInAustin | September 13, 2008 6:29 PM | Report abuse

dancing around the Bush Doctrine question? She didn't answer it at all because she didn't know what it was.

Posted by: Come on ... | September 13, 2008 6:24 PM | Report abuse

Sarah gets an "A+"

First her legs looked great.

Now on to the less important stuff:

Charlie Gibson blew the interview with his obvious "gotcha" attitude.

Bush Doctrine? Ask even Georgetown Foreign Service Alumni what it is and many may not be able to tell you.

Sarah Palin - for her first hostile interview - did excellent. She clearly expressed that she will be tough in a situation which involved National Security.

A President is flanked by Generals and Staff who will brief her on the technical issues of what doctrine is this and what doctrine is that.

Sarah has the right instincts: She will order the shooting first and ask Charlie Gibson about the doctrines later.

The Palin Doctrine:

1) Yes it was their fault.

2) Yes they deserved it.

3) Yes I don't care what the doctrine says.


Posted by: 37th&OStreet | September 13, 2008 6:22 PM | Report abuse

I'll give her a B. She did what she had to do, but I don't think that she put any fears to rest about her inexperience or loopy opinions.

Charlie Gibson managed to stay awake throughout the interview. I'll give him an A.

It's too bad she never had to sit down with the late great Tim Russert, not that her handlers would let her on MTP. She might get on before the election, but with Brokaw, not David Gregory. Bob Schieffer would give her a pass, and Stupid-nopoulos won't get a shot at her, because ABC has had its shot (unless The View gets her). I would like to see her with Chris Wallace.

Posted by: bondjedi | September 13, 2008 6:20 PM | Report abuse


She was prepped but hardly prepared. She didn't fall down a well, and performed like a reasonably intelligent person should. But, from a policy point of view it was a jumble of incoherent and confused soundbites.

Posted by: Alec B | September 13, 2008 6:19 PM | Report abuse

D. She gave no substance to her answers. Sure, Bay Buchanan and other pundits offered points for poise and self-confidence. But this is not a beauty contest. She was coy with Gibson, but not honest or direct. She could have said, "I don't know much about foreign leaders or pre-emptive war theory, but that shouldn''t keep me from running as McCain's second in command." Instead, she said her obervation of Alaska's energy resources qualifies her for the job. That's a really stupid answer. She tried to hard. She wanted to say the right things. She's just like Bush.

Posted by: Tom | September 13, 2008 6:18 PM | Report abuse

Grade: C

It wasn't a great interview, but at the same time she didn't really seem to get flustered or panic at any point during the interview. At the worst for her, the left got some more talking points about her.

To me, what was striking about the interview was how eerily reminiscent Palin's responses were to what we have heard from George W. Bush the past eight years regarding mannerisms and body language. The absolute confidence and conviction she has in her answers regardless of whether she had any knowledge of the topic or if the answer given was accurate.

I could close my eyes at times during the interview and I could clearly imagine President Bush saying the exact same thing in the exact same way.

Posted by: njg | September 13, 2008 6:09 PM | Report abuse


If she isn't even properly prepared for an interview, there's no way she's prepared to be vice president or president! This interview showed me all I needed to know.

Posted by: Jeremy | September 13, 2008 5:53 PM | Report abuse

The grade: C-

She was, for the most part, personally engaging. However, she left a lot to be desired when it comes to policy questions.

She seems content to offer blind allegiance to the Republican foreign policy boilerplate. That's perfectly fine, because she's not running for the big chair and she doesn't have a background that required her to do big think on any of that. I was concerned, however, with her views on the Russia/Georgia issue. It seemed as if she was thoroughly unaware that Russia's incursion into Georgia was provoked by Georgia's incursion into South Ossetia. Most foreign policy experts believe that the Russian response was a huge overreaction, but not unprovoked.

On the other hand, her domestic policy positions were vague and almost disengaged. She seems to recognize that there are problems, but doesn't have any informed solutions. The most glaring thing I took from the interview is that I have no idea what her positions are, what she wants to do if she were to become VP, or if she even has any grasp on the size of the task before her if she gets the job.

Between this interview, and McCain being unable to give any kind of answer to Barbara Walters about what Palin's role would be in a McCain presidency, I'm left wondering if they even thought about any of that when she was chosen.

Posted by: JamesCH | September 13, 2008 5:53 PM | Report abuse

Head of State

Friday, September 12, 2008
Second Time As Farce: How Palin is Exactly Like Bush, Part 2

From Palin's interview with Charlie Gibson:

Palin: "Our national leaders are sending them on a task that is from God"

Gibson: Are we fighting a holy war?

Palin: (looking strained, desperate, trapped): The reference there is from Abraham Lincoln who said "Never presume to know God's will..."

Robert Zimmerman: She failed to describe how a McCain/Palin foreign policy would differ from a Bush foreign policy

Gibson: Have you ever met a foreign head of state?

Palin: I have not, and I think that if you go back in history, and ask that question of many Vice Presidents they have the same answer that I just gave you

Anderson Cooper: Bay, ABC News just did a fact check. They looked back the last 30 years, all Vice Presidents have met a foreign leader. Does that matter?

Bay Buchanan: No, it doesn't at all. Her answer was excellent. It will make Americans feel that much closer to her. She's very real. Sure, she hasn't traveled overseas to meet these foreign leaders. But that's not what American's are looking for. She's absolutely correct. They want somebody that they can relate to. Who's hearing them. They're sick and tired of those people in Washington who may know lots of facts and figures and meet lots of people...

Zimmerman: It's always a danger when we have leaders who know facts and figures, Bay. That really does get in the way of setting up sound policies...My concern, Bay, is that when Sarah Palin says that she's not met foreign leaders like that's a good thing--We made that mistake eight years ago when George W. Bush was that likable guy that you wanted to invite over for a barbeque.

Head of State

Posted by: Marie Stewart | September 13, 2008 5:48 PM | Report abuse

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