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Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin went on the attack tonight, going after the media and drawing sharp distinctions between John McCain and Barack Obama. (Photo by Alex Wong/Getty Images)

ST. PAUL -- Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin took to the stage at the Republican National Convention tonight and delivered the most-anticipated speech of this gathering.

Palin, as expected, sought to turn her roots as a small-town mayor into an asset -- referring to herself as a "hockey mom" (expect to hear that phrase A LOT more this fall) and making note that her political career began on the PTA.

She also painted her lack of experience in Washington as a strength in this campaign.

"I'm not a member of the permanent political establishment," said Palin. "And I've learned quickly these past few days that if you're not a member in good standing of the Washington elite, then some in the media consider a candidate unqualified for that reason alone."

The speech was received with wild applause inside the convention hall; the attendees were ready to explode for Palin and she did enough to let them.

But how did it play outside the Xcel Center? Did Palin clear the expectations bar set for her going into tonight? Or did she miss the mark?

By Chris Cillizza  |  September 3, 2008; 11:11 PM ET
Categories:  Eye on 2008  
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Comments

Gmac-
When it comes to ignorance, you're in a league by yourself. First of all, how do you know that I am not black. (In fact, by your definition, virtually everyone is black.) Secondly, you are not only ignorant of my race, you don't know whether my wife, family or friends are black, white, both or neither. You have ignorantly presumed that I am so shallow as to consider Obama's race as a reason not to vote for him.

You say that my forefathers stated, "if a person had a drop of negro blood in them, they were negro" You don't know my forefathers, and your allegation is just further evidence of your ignorant, racist (I know, that's redundant) attitude.

Frankly, I don't give a damn, about a candidate's race. I do, however, care about his or her experience, capabilities and position on significant issues. Those are things you might consider rather than thinking everything is based on race. But I'm sure, you'd rather wallow in ignorance and promote your prejudiced point of view.

Posted by: DaveE | September 9, 2008 9:35 PM | Report abuse

It's not my place to "dis" someone for their opinion, we all have one, however....Dave, your post of 9/7 is down right ignorant!

"I seriously question Obama on several fronts, but of most concern is that he has been selling himself as a "black man" and all but denied that he is half white and was actually raised by the white side of his family..." - You all can read the rest of his post...

He does not have to advertise himself as a black man when he "IS" a black man! Didn't your forefathers state that if a person had a drop of negro blood in them, they were negro? I bet you also believe that Tiger Woods is a "Cablanasian" as well?

Why don't you simply post that you won't vote for a person of color (a black person) because he is a person of color? Regardless of the issues, education, experience or platform? Pandering to black people, puhhleasseee! What more can he do to be more ethnically diverse...bleach his skin like Michael Jackson?

You should try getting to know one sometime, they don't bite (and some truly are smarter than you)...shhh...but don't tell anyone...

Posted by: Gmac | September 9, 2008 5:56 PM | Report abuse

McCain's campaign manager already said that this election is not about the issues, its about the people. So...let's not talk anymore about the issues. How about we talk about something very real, like..uhh...race!

Forget about who's qualified or not, experienced or not, or even gender. The bigger question as I see it is whether or not America (specifically white America) is prepared to vote for a person of color for President (specifically African American). I find it very hard to believe that if the GOP VP candidate were a black female or the Democratic nominee happened to be Michelle (Obama), white America, especially rural white American females would be so "thrilled" to break from the issues and vote for a ticket with a women candidate.

Gender, experience and their platforms aside, this race is about RACE!

Like Charles Barkley said, "I might be wrong, but I doubt it"...

Posted by: GMac | September 9, 2008 3:10 PM | Report abuse

i am alaskan, i prsy this country will vote for the person who will make this country great and strong again. so you have 2 choices, obama or john. john mcain is one who will take on all the corrution ,shake up washington to get it right again and get this country back to work. and as a president, you need a person who will have your back in same thoughts and plans. sarah palin has done such things in alaska and has proven she is for the people who make this country run.she has dennied special intrests indicted severl gov representatives who has linged there own pockets with companies money to keep them on top. she has also done everything she has said she will do to make this state right. she did this in a very short time line.
so if you feel the washington office isnt working well for the people who make this country run(middle class tax payers) mcain and palin are your peeps to shake things up and get this country rolling again

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 4:02 PM | Report abuse

Chris:

Sarah Palin's speech was one of the greatest of our lifetime - the energy in the air was amazing - it really was one of the best speeches which will be remembered for decades.


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Posted by: 37th&OStreet | September 8, 2008 6:32 AM | Report abuse

I think Sarah did a great job. The speech was more introducing of an introduction. All of you who are looking at hard policy, of course you wouldn't get it. We barely know her, but she blew Barack "I can't do it without a teleprompter" Obama out of the water and she is more qualified than him. He is just a talking head for liberal puppetmasters.

Posted by: DChristensen | September 7, 2008 8:43 PM | Report abuse

THE HOKEY MOM'S "FULL OF HOCKEY " !

Posted by: DISCERNER | September 7, 2008 3:02 PM | Report abuse

It never ceases to amaze me that so many people focus on sideline irrelevancies and ignore real issues. One example-- a person's ability to deliver speeches has nothing to do with his or her character, beliefs or administrative capabilities. So the real question is whether Americans want an experienced Senator who has repeatedly demonstrated the courage of his convictions, or an inexperienced neighborhood organizer who has just as repeatedly shown a lack of both courage and convictions.

I seriously question Obama on several fronts, but of most concern is that he has been selling himself as a "black man" and all but denied that he is half white and was actually raised by the white side of his family. It's pretty obvious that he's pandering to black voters and in that regard considers his white heritage as a disadvantage. His willingness to deny and abandon his heritage shows a disturbing lack of courage and character. Add this to the fact that he has no experience, and has not outlined a specific plan for the "change" he keeps talking about, and you have to wonder about the legitimacy of the Democratic Party.

With Obama as its candidate, the Democratic Party has made this election about salesmanship, not about legitimate issues. The real question that will be answered this November is not whether Americans want a President with liberal or conservative orientation, but whether they'll buy an empty shell as a viable presidential candidate.

Posted by: Dave | September 7, 2008 12:46 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone else remember the "Keating 5" ? John McCain supported Charles Keating during the S&L bailout which cost tax payers more than 3 million, Charles Keating was protected by McCain and his cronies primarily because the two were involved in an earlier real estate transaction involving Cindy McCain and one of their 7 homes. So is anyone suprised that Andrew McCain (Johns son) is on the board of directors for Silver City Bank which we as tax payers will be picking up the tab for its bailout.I assume we won't be seeing any of this in the Johny Boys ads

Posted by: J moyer | September 7, 2008 10:35 AM | Report abuse

While everyone is nitpicking Sarah Palin, why is no one mentioning Obama's association with the huge racist Jeremiah Wright, and his close association with the radical William Ayers?

Obama is a socialist, plain and simple. He has clearly associated with racists and radicals, which makes him dangerous to boot. He has no executive experience, has stated that he will sit down without conditions to talk to terrorist regimes, has just admitted that the surge in Iraq was successful (but won't admit that he mis-judged things, although that is obvious).

What makes Obama more qualified than McCain? Obama is an empty suit. His soaring rhetoric is empty and hollow, but poetic enough to cause liberals to shiver in awe. It makes me think that most liberals don't have too much stored in the attic.

Posted by: Jeff | September 7, 2008 12:30 AM | Report abuse

Definition of a Republican - a person who has done pretty well, has made good decisions, tried to live up to their potential, has met and continues to try to meet their personal goals, gotten a good education, and is generally happy with their life.

Definition of a Democrat - my life sucks, I refuse to take responsibility for that, so I am going to vote for "Change" so that the government can fix my life because I don't want to do it myself.

Posted by: Brianna | September 7, 2008 12:18 AM | Report abuse

I cannot believe how people can be too fanatic even perhaps not verified their facts about Gov. Palin and Obama. Obama is using the slogan of "Change" for himself. Obama's use of the word "CHANGE" IN HIS SLOGAN would just simply mean something that he just can't use the real definition of the word openly in public--but he meant: "CHANGE THE WHITE HOUSE RESIDENTS WITH ANOTHER PROFILE, LIKE THE OBAMA'S" DID YOU ALL GET IT?
OBAMA HAS NO SPECIFICS OF ISSUES UNLIKE THAT OF HILLARY'S. ALL OBAMA HAVE IS TALK, TALK, TALK, TALK AND CHANGE, CHANGE.. CHANCE OF MONEY? CHANGE OF ADDRESS? CHANGE OF CLOTHING? CHANGE OF PLACES? CHANGE OF COLORS? CHANGE OF JOBS, CHANGE OF GIRL FRIENDS? CHANGE OF RELIGION?? FROM WHAT GOOD TO BAD? OBAMA YOUR TALK IS CHEAP. HILLARY WOULD HAVE MADE AMERICA BETTER AND BRING AMERICA BACK TO PROSPERITY. NOW WE HAVE GOV. SARAH PALING, WITH DIGNITY,ETHICS REFORMER, FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY AND DICIPLINE. WOMEN WELCOMES GOV. PALIN AND VOTE CROSS PARTY LINE. I AM ONE OF THOSE WOMEN DEMOCRAT VOTING FOR MCCAIN AND PALIN. DOWN WITH OBAMA! I encourage all those Independents and Democrats women to know your facts--weigh-in then vote for MCCAIN and GOV. SARAH PALIN. LISTEN TO GOV PALIN'S STRAIGHT TALK.
I am shocked of Amanda Kyle's blog on Sept. 3, 2008--it would only show that she is blind folded toward Obama.

Posted by: Southerner | September 7, 2008 12:00 AM | Report abuse

All I can say to all you mindless voters who fall for the same b.s. the media feeds you along with all the neo-conservatives talking points is:
VOTE REPUBLICAN - It's easier than thinking!

And when you do, and if he wins, we have no one else to blame except you - like we do now because you voted for Bush not once but twice.
"When facism comes to America it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis ...
Wake up America it's here and you voted for it.

Posted by: Mary R. | September 6, 2008 11:58 PM | Report abuse

Hey!! Like Barak Hussein Obama said in his speeach: "ENOUGH!!"
Yes, Enough Mr. Obama! Stop now with your sweet words! Obama's word won't hold water, much more to take to you bank!! As a saying goes..."If it's too good as it sound, you must verify." That's what is lacking among so many of these critiques in both political parties. Obama himself does not possess any experience to make him claim as better qualified than Gov. Sarah Palin. He never had held an executive office. He has the opportunity to show how to use his official function as Illinois State Senator but he missed his chance, he instead for majority of the time Voted Present at the State Legislative Voting moments. Common sense tells us that Obama is a kind of politician who wants to play safe--afraid to accept responsibility, scared that which ever vote he take side may bring his political dream down. So, to play safe he voted PRESENT, NOT NO NOR NOT YES. He is indecisive therefore he should not be the person to lead America. I was myself a long time Community Development Worker for the United Nation Development Program. I lived with the village people 24hrs / 7 days, but I cannot claim it an opportunity nor qualification I can bragg to run for an elected office, much more to be a President of U.S.
I am a life time Democrat and a woman, strong supporter of Hillary Clinton. The record would show that I was an active financial contributor to Hillary's Campaign. Obama dared to down grade Hillary. Obama's self-claimed qualification in no way could fathom to Hillary's, sadley, Obama's "sweet talker" style, manipulate and convinced a lot of democrats to his side. His words are just but word no foundation and ssurance that he will even be able to perform his promises, he will say anything and everything if it means that he will get American people's votes. After weighing how are the specific issues by each candidate, in the absence of Hillary in the running, I find McCain after all has the record to prove that he is a fighter for the love of his country, worked for bipartisan issues. Gov. Palin has a proven record having held 2 executive office, not afraid to make a decision for the American people, right or wrong at least, unlike "OBAMA VOTES PRESENT."

Posted by: Joy Hart | September 6, 2008 11:28 PM | Report abuse

Wow, there are some long winded comments on here. Remember being succinct is certainly a virtue.

All I want to say is that Sarah Palin is the hope that we on the right have been looking for. She has certainly made mistakes. As has her family but she doesn't take the easy road out. Her personal life reflects that. I just love her and can not wait for Novemeber!

Posted by: Seattleite | September 6, 2008 10:18 PM | Report abuse

This comment bears repitition just because it was right on the mark:

What an embarrassment.

This year, we witnessed history. A woman ran for president and received 18 million votes from a citizenry that made clear it is indeed ready to consider serious women candidates seriously.

And you, Governor Palin, are making a mockery of that message.

As has been noted by many -- from activists to members of Congress -- you, Governor Palin, are no Hillary Clinton.

But, worse than that, you are a disgrace to the culmination of 200 years of women's struggle that Hillary Clinton represents.


You did not work at the Children's Defense Fund, fighting to secure rights for children.

Instead, you used your line-item veto to strike funding for programs that assist teenage mothers.

You did not revamp the education system of an entire state -- though you are governor of a state in which the illiteracy rate is astronomically high.

Instead, your claim to reformer fame is your activities at the PTA.

You have not traveled overseas to speak in dozens of countries about the rights of women.

You did not stand on a stage among half a dozen men and make the case to the America people for why you are qualified to lead this nation.

You did not receive 18 million votes of confidence. In fact, you were nearly recalled as mayor of your tiny Alaskan town.

You have not stood up for reproductive freedom or even reproductive education.

Instead, you have championed ignorance.

And the proof of your failure lives under your very own roof.

You have agreed to accept a nomination for which you are wholly, indisputably unqualified. And in so doing, you have allowed yourself to become the punchline to a very bad joke.

Except that this isn't a joke, Governor Palin. This is our country's future. And while we have certainly found amusement in the disaster that appears to have been your "vetting process," it's really not funny.

The American people continue to learn new and alarming facts about you, but you already knew these facts when you accepted this position:

• You already knew that you were under investigation for ethical violations.

• You already knew that you turned your town's budget surplus into a deficit before you moved on.

• You already knew of your close involvement with indicted Senator Ted Stevens.

• You already knew the carwash business of which you and your husband were part owners was shut down by the government for failure to comply with regulations.

• You already knew that your husband was a member of a radical political party that advocates secession from the United States.

• You already knew that your teenage daughter was pregnant.

And you damn well know, Governor Palin, that as governor, you have not made any decisions whatsoever regarding the overseas deployment and activities of the Alaska National Guard.

And you damn well know, Governor Palin, that despite your geographical proximity to Russia, you have never been involved in foreign relations with Russia.

You know that, Governor Palin.

And you damn well know that despite your cynical attempt to link your name to the success of Hillary Clinton, you also said that you would not vote for her.

The fight for women's equality is a long and continuous struggle. And you, Governor Palin, are clearly on the wrong side of history. While we fight to prove that we deserve to be taken seriously, your willingness to be on this presidential ticket at this time makes a mockery of that struggle.

And now, although you chastised Hillary Clinton for "whining" about unfair and sexist treatment by the media, because Senator McCain's campaign -- your campaign -- cannot answer the myriad legitimate questions surrounding your vetting process and qualifications, it has instead accused the media, the Democrats, and Obama's campaign of sexism.

And you damn well know, Governor Palin, that just isn't true.

Your own party adamantly opposes affirmative action, and yet, tonight you will stand on a stage and accept the nomination for vice president of your party, a nomination for which you are unprepared and unqualified and which you did not earn and do not deserve.

This is not why Hillary Clinton ran for president, and it is certainly not why 18 million of us voted for her. We were not drawn to her because she won a beauty pageant; we were drawn to her because we believed that decades of work and service and education gave her the wisdom and experience to be able to lead our country out of its current darkness.

That, Governor Palin, was why we stood with Hillary Clinton.

Your candidacy makes a mockery of Hillary Clinton's campaign. It makes a mockery of those who supported her. It makes a mockery of decades and centuries of women who were beaten and jailed, who fought with all their might for a day when there would be no more glass ceilings.

You, Governor Palin, are not a continuation of that legacy. You are an insult to that legacy.

Shame on you, Governor Palin. Shame on you


Posted by: Amanda Kyle | September 3, 2008 11:19 PM

Posted by: Magnolia | September 6, 2008 9:34 PM | Report abuse

I raised 3 kids by myself, Son in the Navy, Had great profession for 20 years made good income. Now it's gone! was a Mortgage Rep. Now I am facing foreclosure, what did I do? Put my ass right back into school for a new career in Healthcare. I do not blame the government, I do not blame anyone. Life is full of ups and downs, you can complain or you can change but don't sit on your lazy ass and blame. All Obama supports do is cry about there life and how it's the governments fault.

Posted by: jenny | September 6, 2008 8:41 PM | Report abuse

All of you obama loving, socialist, broke and want government hand outs rather then get trained for a new occupation make me sick. Your all a broken record with another 8 years of Bush, McCain is a Regan republican, He's going to win and Sorry Demorcratic you may have to work for a living instead of living off the government. You all are the reason this country is broke. We have to support all you crack heads

Posted by: jenny | September 6, 2008 8:29 PM | Report abuse

Obama is a tax and spend program liberal who promises that gpvernment will take care of us. Been there done that.. lets move on. Just how many Americans have voted with their feet to move to countries with socialist/communist governments versus those who have tried to get to America? If Unions and taxes really worked to make lives better Detroit would be one of the wealthiest cities in the world.

Posted by: Bud | September 6, 2008 2:46 PM | Report abuse

All women should be appalled at the treatment of both Governor Sarah Palin and Senator Hillary Clinton by the Left Press and the Democratic Party. The Republican Party found a winner! Go, Palin, go!

Posted by: Fred | September 6, 2008 1:55 PM | Report abuse

I agree with some of the comments above, specially the one from Neenee. Cindy's $300,000 dress (assuming it is true) it is totally ridiculous.

But again, isn't it the American Dream? "work hard" and you can have anything you want in this Great Country. Her father did, what's wrong with that? Why are we always so blind to one of the sides.

Please can someone tell the need for a family of 4 to live and own a $3 million home? specially coming from those who "claim" their life are dedicated to helping the less fortunated. Yes, Mr. Obama's residence, can someone please explain to me how a man that has been praised for passing up opportunities with some of the best law frims in the world, and dedicating himself to public service, again to help the less fortunated, was able to purchase this real estate?

Why doesn't he and his wife sell this property and donate this money to those he wants to help so desperately? Don't take the money by taxing, and taxing from those who are willing to work hard to help others. Why don't the Clinton's take their millions and donate it to those less fortunated, yes the sameone they are so desperately trying to help by using our monies.

She is now going around to small towns campaigning for Obama, these are the same towns where people are out of work, their homes in foreclosue, etc, etc. But she is trying to raise money to pay for her campaign debt. She could paid it out of her own bank account, and it will never put her or her family in the same financial situation the same american families she is preaching to are in. Why don't they walk their talk?

Can you really tell me that we can trust Mr Obama to protect us or even be aware of what is going on in this country, when he sat in front of his pastor, Rev. Jeremiah Wright for 20 years and claims that he never heard some of the most devastating comments anyone can make about their country.

It is interesting how most people ask, what are they going to do for us. These are the same people that want more goverment and more benefit from the govement. We all need to wake up to the reality that our problem is too much Goverment. It is a very simple, for every $1 the Goverment give us back, they need to take $3 from us.

Obama has only one concern, that is to become president so he can claim he was the first black american president. Just ask yourself the question, how many times did he voted present, he could not make a decision. Yes, there is no question that he will give more back, but only by taking even more and stalling the world biggest and most efficient free enterprise engine known to mankind.

If you believe in socialism, just move to Russia, Venezuela, China. If you do not know it, in these countries everyone is equal, no opportunities no future. The one reason people risk their lives to be able to live in this GREAT COUNTRY.

Posted by: GREAT COUNTRY | September 6, 2008 11:48 AM | Report abuse

CREATIONISM VERSUS EVOLUTION – The charge is that Palin opposes the teaching of evolution, and would mandate the teaching of creationism in public schools.

The fact is that Palin said during her 2006 gubernatorial campaign that she would not push the state Board of Education to add creation-based alternatives to the state’s required curriculum, or look for creationism advocates when she appointed board members. She has kept this pledge.

Palin has spoken in favor of classroom discussions of creationism, in some cases. “I don’t think there should be a prohibition against debate if it comes up in class. It doesn’t have to be part of the curriculum,” Palin told the Anchorage Daily News in a recent interview.

BRIDGE TO NOWHERE - The bridge was intended to provide access to Ketchikan's airport on lightly populated Gravina Island, opening up new territory for expansion at the same time. Alaska's congressional delegation endured withering criticism for earmarking $223 million for Ketchikan and a similar amount for a crossing of Knik Arm at Anchorage. In September, 2006, Palin showed up in Ketchikan on her gubernatorial campaign and said the bridge was essential for the town's prosperity.

A projected costs for the Ketchikan bridge rose to nearly $400 million, however, administration officials were telling Ketchikan that the project looked less likely. Local leaders shouldn't have been surprised when Palin announced she was turning to less-costly alternatives to a bridge.

SALE OF JET - According to PolitiFact, the plane, bought by her Republican predecessor whom she beat in 2006, was listed for sale three times on Ebay, but no one ever met the minimum bid. The plane was listed with an asking price of $2.5 million in 2007. The state had paid just under $2.7 million for it in 2005.
Finally, the state turned to an aircraft broker, who sold the jet to an Alaskan businessman for $2.1 million. And my question to her critics is, “So what?” She DID list it on Ebay. Even though it did not sell on Ebay, she DID sell it and who knows what a fair asking price is for a used $2.7 million jet? I think that the tax payers were impressed, and they should have been, too.

PALIN’S TAX CREDIT TO ALASKA TAX PAYERS - the $1200 tax rebate went to the people of Alaska who were robbed by politicians convicted of taking bribes from oil company executives. When you read the actual proposal instead giving a knee-jerk reaction, it is clear that Palin was s returning stolen money back to taxpayers. Not only was there bribery, but her predecessor was giving special breaks to oil companies. This is not a pork barrel project.

Posted by: Brian | September 6, 2008 9:46 AM | Report abuse

I have yet to hear how the republicans are going to reform this country..for the past 8 years they have done nothing by run this country into the ground. People are losing their jobs, houses..no money in their pockets. Palin fits in so well because she's just like them..We have been through 8 years of total hell and they have the nerve to say this election is about personality..No how, no way, No McCain..not another 4 years of lying to the american people..no more, Palin want even go on any talk shows to answer tough questions about her background, she only wants us to hear what the republicans are telling us. Well, I don't buy it for one second and I have more since than to be sucked in by those liars. The american people can see right through their lies, broken promises and dreams. People are losing their sons and daughters in a war that never should have happened in the first place. McCain think he can flaunt Palin in our face like she is the answer to our dreams. Barack Obama spelled out what he will do for this country from the economy, education, health care, our military, washington, small town american working people etc. Senator Obama respects us as smart, intelligent, american people and he doesn't try to play us for fools. McCain and Palin are out of touch with americans because they are too busy putting on a popularity contest. Well, McCain and Palin, this is not a popularity contest, this is serious business with real issues that the american people are more concerned with. I have children and I want someone who will look out for my childs future. Democrats need to rally together and put Obama into office so we can all have a piece of the american dream. McCain is a war monger and if you listened to his speech he said fight with me, fight, fight, fight for your country. We will be in a war for the next 100 years if it's left up to him. Palin is a devil in a blue dress. McCain is evil, dirty and low down we can see that in his negative adds..all he can do is attack and be negative.. he's putting on an act trying to appeal to us to smart to take his bait. McCain go ahead and do all of us a favor and retire...we are not buying it this time..8 is enough. You and Palin may have the media fooled and playing on them talking about their picking you her..that is so yesterday, and game has already been played the american people are to smart to play your games. I wish the media would stop putting your face on tv cause I'm sick and tired of looking at you and Palin already. Cindy McCain sitting in the audience with a $300,000 suit on and we have children out hear that don't have a pair of pants to put on or food to eat..give me a break..talk about elitist..sell that suit and give the money to help some needy families that don't have anything.

Posted by: Neenee | September 6, 2008 3:53 AM | Report abuse

I have yet to hear how the republicans are going to reform this country..for the past 8 years they have done nothing by run this country into the ground. People are losing their jobs, houses..no money in their pockets. Palin fits in so well because she's just like them..We have been through 8 years of total hell and they have the never to say this election is about personality..No how, no way, No McCain..not another 4 years of lying to the american people..no more, Palin want even go on any talk shows to answer tough questions about her background, she only wants us to hear what the republicans are telling us. Well, I don't buy it for one second and I have more since than to be sucked in by those liars. The american people can see right through their lies, broken promises and dreams. People are losing their sons and daughters in a war that never should have happened in the first place. McCain think he can flaunt Palin in our face like she is the answer to our dreams. Barack Obama spelled out what he will do for this country from the economy, education, health care, our military, washington, small town american working people etc. Senator Obama respects us as smart, intelligent, american people and he doesn't try to play us for fools. McCain and Palin are out of touch with americans because they are too busy putting on a popularity contest. Well, McCain and Palin, this is not a popularity contest, this is serious business with real issues that the american people are more concerned with. I have children and I want someone who will look out for my childs future. Democrats need to rally together and put Obama into office so we can all have a piece of the american dream. McCain is a war monger and if you listened to his speech he said fight with me, fight, fight, fight for your country. We will be in a war for the next 100 years if it's left up to him. Palin is a devil in a blue dress. McCain is evil, dirty and low down we can see that in his negative adds..all he can do is attack and be negative.. he's putting on an act trying to appeal to us to smart to take his bait. McCain go ahead and do all of us a favor and retire...we are not buying it this time..8 is enough. You and Palin may have the media fooled and playing on them talking about their picking you her..that is so yesterday, and game has already been played the american people are to smart to play your games. I wish the media would stop putting your face on tv cause I'm sick and tired of looking at you and Palin already. Cindy McCain sitting in the audience with a $300,000 suit on and we have children out hear that don't have a pair of pants to put on or food to eat..give me a break..talk about elitist..sell that suit and give the money to help some needy families that don't have anything.

Posted by: Neenee | September 6, 2008 3:51 AM | Report abuse

it was a great speech. lacking on policy truth, and filled with sarcasm, but fun to listen to.
if we are looking for zingers in the white house the she is very qualified. i'm she she has done some great things in alaska too. but you can't run on a speech, and you can't lie about your record then hide from the press.
1. she was for the pork to build the bridge to nowhere. she was also never offered to money to turn it down. congress never approved the funding. that is a lie.
2. the ebay jet was little more than a stunt. the put in on at a price higher than the payed for it. i heard mccain say she put in on ebay and sold it for a profit. lie, the lost money on the sale.
3. she fought pork. she was the postergirl for pork. when have you ever heard of a mayor of a city of 6000 getting 26 million in pork from DC. it was an annual trip for her. yet when she left the mayors office wassilla was 20 million dollars it debt. and she is a fiscal conservative? a reformer? a washington outsider?
4. creationism in science class along side evolution?? first i think that's against the constitution that the keep touting.
other things are less an issue but are still valid. husband was a registered member of the AIP, no sex ed, no abortion even if a victim of incest, her future son in laws my space page was hilarious!!, lots of expletives and says he doesn't want kids with quite a few !!!! she tried to ban books and fire the librarian for not complying.
9 days and counting since either answer one single question, he isn't even doing town halls of which are his bread and butter. as a dem, i'm not scared, i am just waiting for some answers. obama was on o'rielly, biden did all the morning shows. team palin/mccain team is acting like superman, but it seems questions are kryptonite!!!

Posted by: Jaison Biagini | September 6, 2008 1:06 AM | Report abuse

I can't come back to check on this string because I have another kid to raise, another African American boy who I adopted who I need to read a bed time story.

But some thoughts...Sarah Palin is the quintessential feminist. In every way, she represents a successful woman in America - a mom with a successful career, etc. AHHH, but she is CONSERVATIVE and PRO-LIFE. How can this be? The liberal ideology is being turned on it's head with the candidate named Sarah Palin. The visceral responses on this string testify to it. Liberals are scared and if they are not, they should be. This is a woman who embodies conservative ideals in her very being and in everything she says and does. She is intelligent, attractive, not afraid to be a woman, successful, a good mother, and lives by what she preaches. Liberals must be nauseated to think of it - - an unabashed conservative who is everything a successful woman should be according to every definition, EXCEPT that her conservative views are not palatable to the liberal agenda. All I can say is...

HA HA! Liberals are all hot air and bravado until you ask them WHY they believe what they believe. The more specific you ask them to be, the more they blubber along with emotional responses rather than rational discourse.

Ignorance is bliss except for the well educated Republicans who have to listen to all that blather and noise. Why don't you all just shut up and vote?

Posted by: Brian | September 5, 2008 10:37 PM | Report abuse

Can anyone of you liberals explain exactly what Sarah Palin said that was NOT accurate? Let's take the emotions out of it and be specific. What, precisely, are Obama's credentials to be president? Does anyone even know anything about how he voted on even a single bill? What, precisely, is his political background? What was his relationship with Ayers? I personally heard Jeremiah Wright speak at our church and there is NO WAY that Obama did not know his thoughts as this is the only things Wright talks about in his sermons. He is the most racist person I have ever heard in my fifty years of life, and I have raised an African American boy who I adopted and I am aware of prejudice. I would like to debate on the facts.

Posted by: Brian | September 5, 2008 10:18 PM | Report abuse

I'm sorry but I don't feel comfortable with a "hockey mom" or a pit bull with lipstick running the country that I love and reside in. If your going to run a country, make sure that you are in touch with and can relate to the people you serve. The problem with politics and corporate America is that people are only trying to promote their careers and not fixing real issues.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 7:52 PM | Report abuse

She presented very well considering that every word was already written for her, and now we must wait until she is ready to learn how to response to formal interviews this is according to:
A senior McCain campaign official advises that, despite the gaggle of requests and pressure from the media, Gov. Sarah Palin won't submit to a formal interview anytime soon. She may take some questions from local news entities in Alaska, but until she's ready -- and until she's comfortable -- which might not be for a long while -- the media will have to wait. The campaign believes it can effectively deal with the media's complaints, and their on-the-record response to all this will be: "Sarah Palin needs to spend time with the voters."

Not out of the question are appearances on lighter, fluffier television shows. But -- not for a while.

When do we see the real Hockey Mom? If I had known how the VP selection really works, I would have submitted my name, I am a female, that reads well and can present, oh well, maybe in 8 years I will give it a try.

Posted by: April | September 5, 2008 5:18 PM | Report abuse

Is this discussion still alive?

Posted by: EB | September 5, 2008 12:49 PM | Report abuse

A simple house-milker together with a simple hockey mom cannot give leadership to a complicated nation like America, just forget it, get over with it. Trash them both for the sake of America !! Do it now, and start impeachment proceedings to clean the white house from the sc_umbags still there before they do more harm to a once glorious nation.

Posted by: jwh | September 5, 2008 2:11 AM | Report abuse

A simple house-milker together with a simple hockey mom cannot give leadership to a complicated nation like America, just forget it, get over with it. Trash them both for the sake of America !! Do it now, and start impeachment proceedings to clean the white house from the sc_umbags still there before they do more harm to a once glorious nation.

Posted by: jwh | September 5, 2008 2:08 AM | Report abuse

Palin Speaks: How Did She Do?

Palin’s speech was very appalling. She appeared to be a controlled robot citing exactly what was written for her by the republicans of yesterday. She displayed her acting ability along with the reading of the script. Obama and Biden is way to far above her and McCain, yet they gave it a good shot by trying to climb their gigantic ladder to reach up. It did no good though, both Palin and McCain barely reached the first step of the ladder. God Bless America!

Posted by: Nisey01 | September 5, 2008 1:01 AM | Report abuse

Republican = hate
Republican = greed
Republican = mismanagement, waste, and corruption
Republican = selling out the country (literally)

You all know that's true. Don't hold back. Say it out loud. It'll make you feel good. Then repeat it everywhere you can!

Posted by: Rich F | September 4, 2008 11:49 PM | Report abuse

As I sat in the teachers lunch room at the elementary school where I teach I heard nothing but positive comments about Palin's speech. Everyone agreed she is a no nonsense person and we all seemed to relate to her in some special way. She will certainly be an asset to our government and and a very fine political companion to John McCain. I would be proud to have her as my vice president.

Posted by: Carol Jones | September 4, 2008 11:30 PM | Report abuse

As I sat in the teachers lunch room at the elementary school where I teach I heard nothing but positive comments about Palin's speech. Everyone agreed she is a no nonsense person and we all seemed to relate to her in some special way. She will certainly be and asset to our government and and a very fine political companion to John McCain. I would be proud to have her as my vice president.

Posted by: Carol Jones | September 4, 2008 11:18 PM | Report abuse

Gee conservative idiots like yourself that make me vomit. Frankly I don't care about Billo The Clown nor any of your other filthy republican friends. Hear this I spit on your stupid Christian holier than though attitude and also understand this as well all your hatred and anger will come back to haunt you.

Posted by: reply to dave | September 4, 2008 9:47 PM | Report abuse

HILARIOUS- PALIN "WHINING" ABOUT GETTING PICKED ON
could've sworn she was the same person that called Hillary a 'whiner'. Hmmmmm... And then they say to not talk about family, but then she parades them around and uses them like props. Hmmmmm.... And yet, McCain still can't bring himself to make his campaign focus on issues, no specific agenda for what he will do in the next 4 years. They know they don't want to rely on issues. That does not say much for the concern of American voters. Would Palin have been tapped if she was a man with the same experience? Exactly.

Posted by: Confused | September 4, 2008 9:14 PM | Report abuse

My first reaction while watching it was: "Gee, she's coming across as condescending and kind of nasty, and hasn't really said anything of substance." The speech was straight out of the Republican 2004 convention. It's no surprise that it riled up the far-right base.

My second reaction was: "I wonder how this will play with the moderates and independents who helped send the Republicans to defeat in the last congressional elections?" My sense is that it didn't go over well with them, especially in contrast with the forward-looking, critical yet optimistic Democratic convention last week.

My third reaction was: "She'll be back running Alaska, and McCain will be back in his Senate job on Nov. 5."

Posted by: Lemmy | September 4, 2008 8:48 PM | Report abuse

I have some advise for Sen. Obama and his supporters. When talking about inexperience, make sure you say the name Gov. Palin. Otherwise, all will think you are talking about Sen. Obama.

BTW, Because Sen. Biden has spent his entire working life in the Washington closet,
SEN. JOE BIDEN EXPERIENCE AND JUDGEMENT ARE LIMITED IN SCOPE, WIEGHT, VALUE AND WORLDLY QUALITIES.

Posted by: No Experience | September 4, 2008 8:28 PM | Report abuse

To Max
I approve you to 110 %. What a shame to see these freaks, backward people cheering republicans. You did not have enough of 8 years with Bushie??? But hopefully there will be more than 50 % this time who will do the good choice by voting for Obama, especially since McCain showed his lack of judgement with his choice of running mate, Sarah the Crook (who has the possibility of becoming president knowing the age and bad health of McCain). People are not so stupid Max, you will see. They will choose experience, honesty in order to get USA on his track economically and on the world scale, that is to say they will vote for democrats.

Posted by: Dominic, Canada | September 4, 2008 8:03 PM | Report abuse

Bush wearing panties and nylons

Posted by: pigstick | September 4, 2008 7:47 PM | Report abuse

If America votes for Republicans, I think you officially will be listed as "World's stupidest nation".
Jethro Clampett has run your country into the ground and a lot of you seem to like it. How is it, that 50% of an entire nation are such morons!
IDIOTS!!!!

Posted by: Max - Perth | September 4, 2008 7:21 PM | Report abuse

I was going to post that this was one of the most mean-spirited political speeches in recent memory, but I see that word along with "nasty" in here quite a bit. Guess I'm not alone in that reaction. I'm surprised anyone would introduce themselves to the country with such a vicious, sarcastic tone. Makes me think of something a child would do.

Posted by: Shawn Barry | September 4, 2008 7:21 PM | Report abuse

2 things first
did olberman and matthews get denied entry to the excel center and convention ?

second
obama reminds me of clyde in any which way but loose

Posted by: clint eastwood | September 4, 2008 7:12 PM | Report abuse

Obama needs to start drafting a concession speech.

Posted by: Dave | September 4, 2008 7:04 PM | Report abuse

My response to Ms. Palin's speech was to get out my credit card and make a significant donation to the Obama campaign.

I know that the speech was meant for "the base" but if the "Republics" thought that this would help people make up their minds, I think they were absolutely right...just not in the direction they had hoped.

The angry right got to take a big sip of their own kool-aid. The rest of the country had a fine opportunity to see the true colors of these candidates and their party for what they really are. Angry, sarcastic, bitter, exlusive, hypocritical, out of touch, fear mongering (read emotional rather than intellectual), unhappy people.

Yay!

Posted by: potpie | September 4, 2008 7:01 PM | Report abuse

"every friend and coworker I've talked to today (all Obama supporters) have said that they are going to work even harder for his election after last night's party rally."

They obviously agreed that her speech was a "WOW".

I had hoped that he would have picked the same VP nominee as the Democrats did in 2000 (and apparently was close to having done so with he being listed on the "short list"). But I've been very surprised and pleased with Palin and have new respect for him and his choice. He picks strong women (which his wife also is).

I was thinking to vote Obama, but not so much for him, but more to be anti-Bush (which I largely agree with) rather than being pro-anything good (that's not a straw horse). Palin brings the enthusiasm for the future to the Republican side along with McCain's respect (I read his book twenty some years ago long before he was running for national office -- very powerful). She has spun me solidly in the Republican's direction.

P.S. - To those (including commentators grasping for some glimmer of criticism) who point out that her speech was written by a professional, note that ALL speeches by ALL major politicians were written by professional speech writers. Even Obama's speeches (except possibly that humorous one on YouTube where he was talking almost as if he were on drugs or drunk and made Quayle look like a genius).

Posted by: Oregonian | September 4, 2008 6:55 PM | Report abuse

If the Republican party wins this election with their third-string, elderly, frail, boring, played-out quarterback, backed by a shrill, overly aggressive, small-town cheerleader that is anti-choice, anti-comprehensive sexual education, and anti-science, I can only assume it is because eight years of this terrible administration has ensured that there is no longer enough educated liberal "elites" - or even enough people who watch the news - and no, Fox does not count - enough to understand our precarious, absolutely terrifying role on the global stage right now - to do anything about it. Cling to your guns and your religion, because, damn, you are going to need them when this country collapses and those who actually managed to pull themselves up by their bootstraps flee, and take their jobs with them.

Posted by: Sickened and Scared | September 4, 2008 6:49 PM | Report abuse

Palin's speech had no substance? When has anyone heard substance in Obama's flowery oratories?
She has no foreign policy experience? And Obama does? Pray tell what that might be!
She's shrill? Have you heard -- actually heard -- Hillary screeching at the podium?
Palin's corrupt? Have you forgotten Obama's dealings with Rezko?
Her unmarried daughter is pregnant, but within the bosom of family. Obama's idolized and immensely sainted dad chose to abandon his family...which is worse?
Palin in unpatriotic? When was the last time anyone saw Obama put his hand over his heart during the National Anthem? The answer is never!!! And then there's the Michelle statement that for the first time in her life she finally has a reason to be proud of America -- only because her husband is running for President.
Palin's speech, according to Obama, lacked the word "economy" in it. When listening to Obama spew "economy" all over his rhetoric -- has anyone ever heard any substance in how he's going to improve it -- besides, of course, saying generically that he's going to improve it?

One could go on and on....but finally, who is funding...really funding...the Obama campaign? Oh yea, it's those anonymous envelopes showing up from all those thousands upon thousands of "little" people sending in all that money that he doesn't have to account for or identify the donors. Yea, right! If it's all so innocent, why won't he identify them?

Posted by: Diana | September 4, 2008 6:26 PM | Report abuse

Palin is more of a man than Obama.

Posted by: You know it's true | September 4, 2008 6:26 PM | Report abuse

I'm a pro-life, climate changing-hating- registered Democrat. I didn't support Hillary in the primaries b/c I think she is even more strongly pro-choice than Obama, but I like MANY of her other policy positions and I certainly admire the many cracks she has put -- and continues to put -- in glass ceilings facing women. I want very much for women not only to enter the highest level of American politics. I frankly think they should dominate.

With that in mind, I'm enthusiastic about the nomination of Sarah Palin. Like me, she is pro-life. Unlike me, she has her head in the sand as regards climate change, animal rights and a slew of other environmental problems. I generally oppose the death penalty, while she supports it.

My view is that women are people, just like men, meaning that most of them are going to have some views that I agree with and others I disagree with.

I haven't made up my mind about who to vote for in November, but I welcome Palin to the race, and I challenge all sides -- Republican and Democrat -- to see who can come up with the most aggressive strategy for combatting climate change quickly.

Posted by: John | September 4, 2008 6:24 PM | Report abuse

Obama needs to get to the gym - he got beat up by a girl last night.

Posted by: Dave | September 4, 2008 6:22 PM | Report abuse

I'm an old guy and I can honestly say it won't matter to me in the long run who wins this election. I do believe however that the current administration has been the worst in my lifetime (born during FDR).

If "small town working class" voters in Ohio, Pa., Michigan and Indiana re-elect the GOP then I don't want to hear anymore whinng from them about their disappearing jobs and livlihoods, the high cost of college and gas, lack of health care etc.

Screw 'um. Cling to your guns and religion. Pray to Jesus when you go hunting for a meal. You will deserve what you get.

I got mine already. I live comfortably in the sunny south on a golf course, got my steady income, my medicare and prescription drug coverage.

As Johnny Carson used to say - I upped my lifestyle - up yours!

God helps those who help themselves - if you're in deep doodoo economically and you vote Republican you deserve it.

Posted by: toritto | September 4, 2008 6:22 PM | Report abuse

Black Yalie

"As long as Notre Dame sucks I'm happy".

Amen to that.....

Posted by: Chris in Texas | September 4, 2008 6:19 PM | Report abuse

Janet, what was one of her national level plans that took your vote? Why did you vote for Hillary? Just because she's a woman? That kinda hurts the cause of women if you just throw a random token in with no substance.

Posted by: Confused | September 4, 2008 6:17 PM | Report abuse

That's funny. You ask republicans a serious question, and one comes back saying "ohhh I bet democrats are crapping their pants." From what? What her ideas on the economy? What's her ideas on the wars(plural) we are fighting? What's her idea on the housing issue? How does she feel about health care in a population greater then a few thousand?

Posted by: Confused | September 4, 2008 6:15 PM | Report abuse

Palin knocked it out of the park last night. What an incredible speech and presentation! I am a Democrat and upset over the way Hillary Clinton was treated in the primaries, and have been on the fence over who to vote for this Nov. Palin just bought my vote and I'll do my best to spread the word. Palin and McCain are good people and strong leaders...just the type of leadership we need.

Posted by: janet | September 4, 2008 6:14 PM | Report abuse

I bet Obama and Biden had to make a trip to the dry cleaner's today after soiling their pants last night. Go Sarah Barracuda!!!

Posted by: Dave | September 4, 2008 6:07 PM | Report abuse

If family choices are off limits, why does she parade her family as much as she does? If I wanted my family to stay out of it, I would not intentionally bring them in to it. It's like she's saying here's my family, and I will make them a focus point, but don't make them a focus point. And it would help if the republicans talked issues, so pundits had something else to report.

Posted by: Confused | September 4, 2008 6:07 PM | Report abuse

Hired Gun
Sarah Palin is simply a hired gun for John McCain and the Republican Party. Literally. Any one who brandish an AK47 before the American people and the world is reckless and irresponsible. This is the type of "machine gun" diplomacy that led to the war in Iraq and added an additional $3,000,000,000,000 (three trillion dollars) to the American deficit. Americans should not be fooled by symbolism. If John McCain and Sarah Palin are elected to the Whitehouse, this country will be further engulfed in war with Iran and other middle eastern countries which it can not win. We should all heed "The Book Of Wisdom" which says, happy (blessed) is the peacemaker. Let's give peace a chance and say no to "machine gun" diplomacy.

Posted by: BlueFalcon96 | September 4, 2008 5:58 PM | Report abuse

It's the hypocrisy stupid!

Posted by: osbornead | September 4, 2008 5:57 PM | Report abuse

Shane - nope, don't speak German anymore. My German ancestors came here in the 1850s. My Italian, Hungarian, and English ancestors came here in the early 1900s. So, depending on how you look at it, I'm second generation and, by the way, have worked hard for everything I have as well. What is your point?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 5:55 PM | Report abuse

Anonymous wrote:

Shane - Just trying to point out that the Republicans can't even perform the duties of their office, and to point out the galling hypocrisy of the Bush administration who builds walls on one hand and looks the other way while undocumented workers boost corporate profits and lower the standard of living for average workers.

Unlike you, I'm not afraid of different peoples, cultures, religions, and ideas. It's influxes of new peoples and ideas that have made us strong. According to US census bureau predictions white folk like us will just be one of the minorities by 2015. You ready for that Shane? Or are you going to break out the white hood and burn some crosses? Se habla espanol?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 5:46 PM

I AM one of those people, and as a first generation American who has worked VERY hard to EARN everything I have I am offended! And no, I do not speak Spanish, aber Ich spreche Deutsch!

Posted by: Shane E | September 4, 2008 5:50 PM | Report abuse

Good thinking Chris! Close up the borders! Build a wall around the country so that no black or brown skinned people can get in? Surely this isn't what you mean...

Shane - Just trying to point out that the Republicans can't even perform the duties of their office, and to point out the galling hypocrisy of the Bush administration who builds walls on one hand and looks the other way while undocumented workers boost corporate profits and lower the standard of living for average workers.

Unlike you, I'm not afraid of different peoples, cultures, religions, and ideas. It's influxes of new peoples and ideas that have made us strong. According to US census bureau predictions white folk like us will just be one of the minorities by 2015. You ready for that Shane? Or are you going to break out the white hood and burn some crosses? Se habla espanol?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 5:46 PM | Report abuse

Just a thought for all you "Christians" on this site. Christians do not offer sarcasm, belittle others, and parade their families and their problems aross the TV screen to win votes and power (this is not the Jerry Springer show, is it?). They do not think of themselves as "worthy" or better than others, and they do not lie and stretch the truth for personal gain. You say that yes, Christians do this and are imperfect ,and know they will be forgiven.

Well a REAL Christian knows these things are not the teachings of Christ and they also know everything they do, say, or feel in their hearts is known by someone else. There is no hiding or fooling Him.

So before you go this route for this election, think about what you know to be true and what you are seeing paraded across your TV screen or stage. Are you willing to be a part of this? He gives you a choice. He also watches.

If you truly feel that Palin is the right person, check her out thoroughly before choosing. If you think McCain is the right choice, check him out too. A war hero is to be respected for his sacrifice, but you must consider his actions toward his first family. There is no honor there. Find out for yourself. I was very disappointed. I cannot judge him, but I don't have to trust him.


Posted by: Steve | September 4, 2008 5:36 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 5:46 PM | Report abuse

I apologize I ment Johnny McCain's Flying Circus

Posted by: Sam, Phx,AZ | September 4, 2008 5:45 PM | Report abuse

Small town America?

why is your wisdom so more important than the rest of the country?

It is Amazing how much Mileage the Republican's have gotten out of two misstatements by the Obama's

Amazing

a person with 4 houses and 100mm in assets calls a guy who pulled himself up from his bootstraps and elites and you go for it?

Small town America are you going to be fooled three times in a row?

if you kid get's sick would you rather your local doctor did his MD at the local College or Harvard or whomever has the best school for that.

would you rather your son or daughter be deployed with average guys and gals or with the best fighting unit.

Navy Seals, Marine Recon, Army Rangers

they have a name the Elite of the Elite.

he may or may not be a man of the people but he has tried to be a man for the people!!

Posted by: Michael Templer | September 4, 2008 5:45 PM | Report abuse

Steve wrote: "A war hero is to be respected for his sacrifice, but you must consider his actions toward his first family. There is no honor there. Find out for yourself. I was very disappointed. I cannot judge him, but I don't have to trust him."


Posted by: Steve | September 4, 2008 5:36 PM
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Aren't statements like, "There is no honor there" and "I was very disappointed" judgmental statements? Can I assume by this that you are NOT a Christian?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 5:44 PM | Report abuse

As I was watching her speech last night, I just kept thinking that Ann Coulter looked better as a blonde.

Posted by: AOS1 | September 4, 2008 5:43 PM | Report abuse

Johny McCain's Fly Circus starring Sarah Palin as Bush in drag. What a joke. And all those fools cheering her on. Rudy made an a** out of himself. If I were a Republican I would be ashamed. Let her talk all she wants she is just diggin a big hole for her self. I felt sorry for her family but they will do fine on the Jerry Springer show once the lose this one.

Posted by: Sam, AZ | September 4, 2008 5:41 PM | Report abuse

I would like to commend Governor Palin for a great job in delivering a very passionate and inspiring speech last night! Many are even referring to her as the new “Rock Star” of the Republican party…seems like I’ve heard that description before, but not in such a positive light. Even so, I’d like to offer a couple of comments on her lack of knowledge regarding the role of a “Community Organizer.”

A “Community Organizer” is a person who is driven to public service by a strong passion to represent suffering citizens when mayors and governors fail to do their job. True, “Community Organizers” don’t always acquire the fame and fortune that comes to many mayors and governors; however throughout the history of our country, many of the positive changes that have occurred were the result of work initiated by “Community Organizers.” For instance, growing up in the South, there was a governor of my state by the name of George Wallace. Governor Palin may not be familiar with him--- but he was responsible for pushing the belief that African American students weren’t good enough to attend schools with White American students. In fact, some of his more famous speeches included the phrase, “Segregation today, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever!” There was a young “Community Organizer” who was driven to confront this governor, ultimately resulting in the passage of the Civil Rights Amendment. His name was Martin Luther King.

A few other “Community Organizers” of note: (1) Elizabeth Cady Stanton and Lucretia Mott, who were instrumental in pushing the rights of women to vote; (2) Harriet Tubman, who played a key role in helping to end slavery by establishing the Underground Railroad; and (3) Luisa Moreno, who was very active in improving the civil rights of Hispanic workers. In case she doesn’t notice, these “Community Organizers” were all women. So, I guess you could say that a “Community Organizer” is a couple of steps above a Hockey Mom or PTA President.

Lastly, when asked about the three people he admired most in the world during an interview with Rick Warren, her running mate, Senator John McCain, mentioned John Lewis. Just in case Governor Palin doesn’t know this, prior to becoming a congressman from the state of Georgia, Mr. Lewis was--- you guessed it--- a “Community Organizer” with Martin Luther King.

Posted by: Harriette Bettis-Outland | September 4, 2008 5:37 PM | Report abuse

Just a thought for all you "Christians" on this site. Christians do not offer sarcasm, belittle others, and parade their families and their problems aross the TV screen to win votes and power (this is not the Jerry Springer show, is it?). They do not think of themselves as "worthy" or better than others, and they do not lie and stretch the truth for personal gain. You say that yes, Christians do this and are imperfect ,and know they will be forgiven.

Well a REAL Christian knows these things are not the teachings of Christ and they also know everything they do, say, or feel in their hearts is known by someone else. There is no hiding or fooling Him.

So before you go this route for this election, think about what you know to be true and what you are seeing paraded across your TV screen or stage. Are you willing to be a part of this? He gives you a choice. He also watches.

If you truly feel that Palin is the right person, check her out thoroughly before choosing. If you think McCain is the right choice, check him out too. A war hero is to be respected for his sacrifice, but you must consider his actions toward his first family. There is no honor there. Find out for yourself. I was very disappointed. I cannot judge him, but I don't have to trust him.

Posted by: Steve | September 4, 2008 5:36 PM | Report abuse

I actually did not attend State College. Just having a little fun with you, and kudos for owning up to it! Good stuff!

Posted by: State College | September 4, 2008 5:36 PM | Report abuse

Who are You? I don't Know you anymore?

you are suppose to be for limited Government
yet you have added 4 Trillion on to the Debt and the largest deficit every?

you claim for decades that people should pull themselves up by their bootstraps, especially to the black community but ridicule two people for working hard and going to good schools.

the argue that private citizens and communities should make certain decisions but ridicule Community Organizing.

you say knowledge and experience of foreign policy is essential to the next president and then put up the most unqualified candidate for VP ever.

John McCain is 72 and whether your 96 yo Mother is around or not it seems to me he would rather win a political campaign then put country first and put someone qualified like Ridge or Lieberman.

You say Obama will raise your taxes when while not directly the last 8 years you have been through a pseudo tax increase at the pump, the purchasing power of the dollar going down, Increased health care at a spiraling rate.

Who are you people

Dressing a moose and shooting an M16 is more important then that.

They are running for president here.

Now if I had my choice between the four to cast away on island together

Sarah Palin would be my choice or a lot of reasons.

The other Charge of Obama never running anything

well gentlemen, neither has John McCain

not a busines, not a state, a City
nothing
sure he led a squadron, but squadron commanders pass on the orders of others.

Keep America Safe?
by not guarding and searching our containers and trying to sell our port security to Dubai!

When all of us have 1 vote between essentially two people what does it say about someone who could have chosen Any Republican to choose someone he has met twice, who was only vetted last Wednesday

who apparently is so tough she can't answer one question from the media because that would be sexist for them to treat her like everybody else.

what does that say? and if he did make the right choice what does that say about all the other republicans who have represented a population larger then 9000 locally and a state that is smaller than 90% of the Congressional Districts.

Who are you? You use to be the Republican Party! My party!

Posted by: Michael Templer | September 4, 2008 5:35 PM | Report abuse

Jeez, what a bad day for Democrats. After Sarah Palin stuck it to Obama, Bill O'Reilly has now forced Obama to admit that the surge worked. The Democrats are collapsing!! It looks like Obama will have to go back to being a "community organizer." Obama is having such a bad day that he might be tempted to starting snorting cocaine again.

Posted by: Dave | September 4, 2008 5:24 PM

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^ ^ ^ ^ ^ Neocon wet dream

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Posted by: now I seen it all | September 4, 2008 5:35 PM | Report abuse

Good thinking Chris! Close up the borders! Build a wall around the country so that no black or brown skinned people can get in? Surely this isn't what you mean...

Posted by: Shane E | September 4, 2008 5:33 PM | Report abuse

Decider is not a word either, did GW go to Yale? But that was my mistake and I own up to it. I must not go to an Ivy League school now, right? State College has served you well.

Posted by: Black Yalie | September 4, 2008 5:30 PM | Report abuse

NEWSFLASH: Groucho is the final authority on everything!

Because Groucho sits in his mom's basement and types it, it must be true!

Seriously, do you ever get tired of being so smug and self-righteous? You accuse everyone not named "you" of being hateful and smug, and yet, you have mastered the art!!! Then, when someone calls you on it you try to blast them! Why can't you just let people say what they want to say and leave it alone?

Posted by: Shane E | September 4, 2008 5:29 PM | Report abuse

So Shane E., ever wonder WHY that job only pays $6.75 an hour? Could it be because the Bush administration has been singularly and remarkably unable to secure our borders, even in the shadow of 9/11? Isn't maintaining secure borders one of the main functions of the Executive branch of government? Uncontrolled immigration is the primary cause of low wages in this country. But it does put more $$$ into the pockets of big businesses doesn't it?

Posted by: Chris in Texas | September 4, 2008 5:29 PM | Report abuse

The speeches last night were ad hominem laced rants designed to whip up the right wing of the party. There was little to no real policy presented. And facts? Who cares about facts, right?: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080904/ap_on_el_pr/cvn_fact_check

Palin's speech was pure self-congratulatory rhetoric designed to reinforce the conservatives' desparate longing for a replacement for W. They are a bunch of evangelical zealots searching for a new shepard to blindly follow - and to insult anyone who questions the path they want to follow. Seriously, creationism is still something people actually talk about? Wow.

Also, what's with slamming Obama for being a community organizer before he went to law school? I guess the only communities Republicans live in are gated - no need for organizing there.

However, I was impressed that it took Giuliani a full 6 minutes before he mentioned 9/11.

Posted by: Philosopher-King | September 4, 2008 5:27 PM | Report abuse

Shane - and WHY does that job only pay $6.75 an hour? Could it be that the Bush administration has been singularly and remarkably unable to secure our borders, even in the shadow of 9/11? That is one of the main responsibilities of the Executive branch of government. Uncontrolled immigration is one of the main reasons wages are so low in this country. But it puts more money into the pockets of big business doesn't it?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 5:24 PM | Report abuse

Jeez, what a bad day for Democrats. After Sarah Palin stuck it to Obama, Bill O'Reilly has now forced Obama to admit that the surge worked. The Democrats are collapsing!! It looks like Obama will have to go back to being a "community organizer." Obama is having such a bad day that he might be tempted to starting snorting cocaine again.

Posted by: Dave | September 4, 2008 5:24 PM | Report abuse

Hey, Shane E

Thanks for proving my point, small one. Nothing but smear. No substance. No sense. Your masters will be proud.

Posted by: GrouchoMarxist | September 4, 2008 5:22 PM | Report abuse

Palin said:

The Iraq war was 'a task that is from God'

..God's plan

Her audience were young vulnerable impressionable students.

Did God tell Bush to lie?
Did God tell Bush to murder and maim thousands of children and babies?

Has Palin managed to segregate her mind from the reality of death and pain and despair and the sobs of a grieving mother?

Right now she may be the 'life' of the Republican Party, but the 'soul' is missing!!

Posted by: Mark Golding - Children of Iraq Association | September 4, 2008 5:21 PM | Report abuse

Hey Groucho,

Stop posting inane nonsense on-line! Get back to work and try to earn that $6.75 an hour so I don't have to keep paying for your free Mac with my tax dollars. I know, the idea of EARNING a living may seem foreign to you at first, but you'll get used to it, and may find that you actually get a sense of accomplishment out of it...

Posted by: Shane E | September 4, 2008 5:18 PM | Report abuse

I voted for Bush previously, served in Iraq last year, and consider myself politically conservative.

Now that GEN Petraeus has testified that with decreasing violence in Iraq it may be possible for a troop pull-out of Baghdad by next July, I see no more "national security" reason to vote for McCain. Newsflash to anyone who managed to take their eyes off of Gov. Palin's legs for a minute: responsibility for security operations in Anbar Province was just turned back the Iraqis.

I think Rudy and Palin's speeches last night only succeeded at egging on terrorists and earning eye-rolls from the citizens of our NATO allies. Reagan showed us that talking to evil empires doesn't necessarily mean appeasement.

It's time for a different "strategery."
The Muslim World doesn't care for pigs and could care less if pigs wear lipstick.

I'm voting for Obama/Biden.


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People, quit trying to represent yourselves as a "Republican who is now voting for Obama" or a "Democrat who is disgusted with Obama"! It doesn't play well, undermines any valid points you may have and makes you look foolish since no one buys it! Just say what you have to say, whether you be democrat, republican, independent, libertarian, etc. Stop lying!

Posted by: Libertarian Independent | September 4, 2008 4:33 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 5:18 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin just pissed off at least half the country with that speech last night. She may have riled up the hard core right wing nut jobs that make up the base off the GOP but she also riled up Democrats and I think a lot of independents too.

The more we learn about Sarah Palin, the less we will like her. She is a nasty politician. She reminds me of some unholy cross between George W. Bush, Dick Cheney & Ann Coulter.

This is what people who actually know her think about her:

http://www.thepresidentialcandidates.us/about-sarah-palin-a-letter-from-anne-kilkenny/741/

Posted by: John Q | September 4, 2008 5:18 PM | Report abuse

Obama now admits that the surge worked. What joke Obama is.

Posted by: Dave | September 4, 2008 5:16 PM | Report abuse

Hey Yalie,

Worthwile is one word, not two....or is English not taught where you went to school? Yale was it?

Posted by: State College | September 4, 2008 5:15 PM | Report abuse

Shane E. - I understand your sentiments completely and used to feel the same way as you. Are there people who abuse the generosity of the American people. Absolutely. But at the same time there are countless more who are truly needed. In the past, people who needed help could find it locally, in their communities and churches. My church, for instance, staffs soup kitchens, builds low income housing, etc. Unfortunately, many Christians now would rather build elaborate temples to themselves rather than help their fellow man as Jesus told them to do.

This year the Democratic party finds itself in the uncharacteristic position of being the party of fiscal responsibility. Rather than spend tax money on the American people, Bush et al have spent literally trillions of $$$ on an unnecessary war that has taken the lives of 4,000+ American men and women, wounded tens of thousands more, and killed hundreds of thousands of Iraqis. And where did the money to fund the war come from? Did it come from taxes? No. It came from the sale of t-bills to China to the point where we are some $10 trillion in debt - most of that debt held by foreign countries. I'm 55 years old. I'm not going to have to pay for that debt. However, you, and your children, and their children, are going to be saddled with that debt for the rest of their lives. It's not taxes that will deprive you of a home, it's the insurmountable debt run up by the Republican leadership.

I voted for Nixon in '68 and '72, Ford (bless his football-playing heart) in '76, Reagan in '80 and '84, Bush Sr in '88 and ‘92, Dole in ’96, and Bush jr. in 2000 and 2004 (mea culpa). This year, for the first time in my life, I'm voting for a Democratic president. I've finally had enough.

Posted by: Chris in Texas | September 4, 2008 5:15 PM | Report abuse

CBS Poll: McCain, Obama Tied. Poof!! Obama's eight point lead destroyed in 37 minutes.

Posted by: Dave | September 4, 2008 5:14 PM | Report abuse

I hear so many dems calling for "CHANGE", yet they offer tax and spend politics.
Posted by: Shane E | September 4, 2008 5:02 PM

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You might have a point if that were true. Since it's not, and all you have to run on is the borrow (from Commie China) and spend policies of Geehaw Bush, I can understand why the speakers at your convention and your paid punditry have little to say about the issues and spend most of their time engaging in tired old Rovian fear and smear tactics.

Posted by: GrouchoMarxist | September 4, 2008 5:13 PM | Report abuse

Black Yalie - give RichRod a couple of years to purge the previous recruits out of the system. I don't hold out much hope for this season. Down the road, who knows?

The one thing about the U of M that I will be eternally grateful for was teaching me how to reason.

Posted by: Anonymous


RichRod will win at UM...They have more money than God when it comes to getting (buying0 recruits. Now don't all high and mighty on me. Even here in New Haven, we'll splurge on a big time recruit with good grades and decent lineage. So I know the boosters at UM will open their pockets for worth while recruits. As long as Notre Dame sucks I'm happy. I didn't like how they did Ty Willingham. I know...I know...
He didn't have any business coaching there in the 1st place...but still....

Posted by: Black Yalie | September 4, 2008 5:11 PM | Report abuse

I used to be a Community Organizer also working in Hispanic neighborhoods. We used to work together with my local church. Although some people might find that part of the speech offensive, the reality is she didnt want to offend anyone, she was just pointing out something that is just true. We community organizers many times have to go to Mayors offices to get their help in fundraisers, events, in getting their support of their ideas, but we dont have to deal with school budgets, police departments, trash collection, crime, development, environment, local economy etc. Put it this way, the Mayor is to a town/city to what the President is to the US but only in a micro way.
Community organizers realize this. Our job is not less valuable, but we have to admit that a mayor's job entails many other things that an Organizer cant even comprehend.

Posted by: Alex Rodriguez | September 4, 2008 5:10 PM | Report abuse

In response to:

Black Yalie,

Jimbo and Skeeter wanted me to get this straight before they did all that research you asked about. Do you expect us to believe that you have taken courses from three of Bush former professors especially considering that he graduated from Yale in 68? They said its hard to believe that three of his professors would still be around after 40 yrs. And exactly why should we believe anything you say?

You don't have to believe anything I say. Here at Yale we have teaching fellows that remain after their matriculation is over and continue to teach if they so chose, prior to heaing for secondary degrees. I doubt any of these men taught at any school in Iowa:

Prof. Robert Gordon '64
Prof. Robert Ellickson '66
Prof. Joe Levin (visiting professor) taught Bush in a senior economics class....

Happy Googling!


Posted by: Black Yalie | September 4, 2008 5:07 PM | Report abuse

The only way Sarah Palin hit it out of the park last night is if she was batting on a little league field.

It's not just that the speech lacked substance on the issues (e.g., bold vision, or even boring policy prescriptions); it's that the speech lacked even an attempt to *identify* the big issues facing America.

Yes, we all know that the Republicans are big on energy. "Drill, baby, drill," as Michael Steele said. But drilling isn't even a medium-term solution, much less a way to truly end America's dependence on foreign oil. It's disgraceful for her to suggest that the Democrats would "do nothing" on the energy front, when it's the Republicans who have been letter Big Oil stymie the development of alternative fuels for decades.

And that's not to mention the fact that she completely ignored every other major problem facing the U.S. today. Social security, health care, unemployment, inflation, immigration, international trade, education... You name it, she *didn't* talk about it. And don't get me started on foreign policy and military affairs.

I know, lots of people are saying "Don't talk about Palin's lack of experience unless you're willing to admit that Obama doesn't have any experience either." Well, here's the thing: I am willing to admit that. Obama wasn't my first choice for the Democratic ticket (BTW, Hillary wasn't either), but he's the candidate we have. The fact of the matter, though, is that Obama doesn't shy away from those policy areas. Yes, he knows how to give a good speech, and he acts like a bit of a celebrity at times. But the guy is smart; he's a deep thinker; and he understands these issues.

Nobody has the kind of experience necessary to be an expert in all of those policy areas; it simply can't be done. But Obama has demonstrated that he has the judgment and the intellectual horsepower to tackle these issues head on and reverse the do-nothing course that Washington has been on for far too long.

So far, Palin has demonstrated that she's good at reading a teleprompter and talking over applause. I don't doubt that she's bright, but let's get real. Palin's MO is to fire everyone who disagrees with her and replace them with yes-men. Not exactly the hallmark of someone who is willing to debate the issues to come up with a reasonable solution that's acceptable to the majority. Just ask (all of) the (former) members of the Alaska Creamery Board what happens to you when you disagree with her about a public policy issue.

And to all those of you out there who think, "Gee, she's just a regular gal. I really see a lot of myself in her, and I like that." I have just this one question: do you think that YOU are ready to be a heartbeat away from the presidency? Do you really?

Posted by: chickens97 | September 4, 2008 5:06 PM | Report abuse

It speaks volumes that not one McCain supporter would take my challenge and provide an actual explanation for how Palin was the Republicans' most qualified VP candidate. Not one.

I think that says it all.

Posted by: Howard B | September 4, 2008 5:06 PM | Report abuse

I hear so many dems calling for "CHANGE", yet they offer tax and spend politics. How does this policy constitute a change from what they have promoted for years?!?! Some of us are taxed enough already! I have worked hard all my life so that I can afford to own a home, and now I am supposed to give that up because other people make less than I do? Why can't we all payy the same rate? Why do I have to shoulder a larger portion of the tax burden simply because I have worked hard all my life achieve a modicum of financial comfort and freedom? This is Socialist thinking, and NOT a change from what dems have proposed all along. It is the "have nots" wanting to take form the "haves" because they somehow feel entitled to do it! I had to take out student loans to pay for college AND worked a full time job while in school. I then had to work two jobs to pay off my student loans! To ask me to pay for others who have not invested the same time and effort is cahrity; to LEGISLATE it is absurd!

Posted by: Shane E | September 4, 2008 5:02 PM | Report abuse

Thiw woman is clearly a danger for Americans and for the world since USA is now the leader of the world actually. Indeed, she has been know by Americans for 1 week and a tons of scandals are known. Thw owrst is that she abused of her power to fired the chief of police of the state troopers because he did not want to fire her step brother for personnal problems. Moreover she lacks experience in domestic and foreign policy (come on, her so called experience in her state is nothing compare to what you need to be President). Knowing that McCain is 72 years old and that he has skin cancer, the possibilities that she become president after a possible death of McCain is plausible if Republicans win the elections.And if thsi happened, it would do more damage to USA and the world than any hurricane blowing in USA.
Obama with his helper, Biden, an experimented polician in foreign policy, will improve the situation in USA and of this country in the world, unlike the McCain-Palin duet who would continue to keep USA in the dark, or worst who would bring back USA to Neanderthal era, just considering the foreign and the social issues of MCCain-Palin duet.

Posted by: Dominic, Canada | September 4, 2008 5:01 PM | Report abuse

The Dow Jones Industrial Index is down 3% today. Investors must be watching the Republican convention.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 5:00 PM | Report abuse

Someone asked, "What exactly does it mean that McCain voted with Bush 90% of the time?" Simple. It goes to judgment.

We don't need four more years of that kind of judgment in the White House. It's the same type of judgment that led us to a war in Iraq with no exit strategy... the type of judgment that's trying to convince us Sarah Palin is the most qualified candidate to be Vice President.

No thank you, Mr. McCain.

Good day, all.

, foing that

Posted by: Len | September 4, 2008 4:56 PM | Report abuse

I watched a day of negative speeches that lacked any real substance. It actually left me feeling angry and helpless...
that sort of "deep in your stomach" anxiety that makes you want to run and hide.

This group of speakers put forth a platform of exclusion and derision rather than hope and vision.

This is the sort of America we want?

We will get "drilled" alright

Posted by: Disturbed in America | September 4, 2008 4:55 PM | Report abuse

Black Yalie - give RichRod a couple of years to purge the previous recruits out of the system. I don't hold out much hope for this season. Down the road, who knows?

The one thing about the U of M that I will be eternally grateful for was teaching me how to reason.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 4:51 PM | Report abuse

Obama's trying to figure out how to dump Biden and get Hillary back right about now...
Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 4:21 PM

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Why, exactly, would he do that, Noman? According to online Conservative demigod Matt Drudge, the Obama campaign has raked in more than $8 million (from some 130,000 donors) since Palin spoke last night, and is on pace to put that number over the $10 million mark by the time McCain speaks tonight.

Keep it up, Republicans. You're putting the "fun" back in our fundraising.

Posted by: GrouchoMarxist | September 4, 2008 4:47 PM | Report abuse

Need a QB at Michigan. RichRod needs to go down south and get him one...One of those fast, get in trouble types. My classmate applied to UM law and got shut down. He's a liberal, so it serves him right. Nice campus in Ann Arbor... I see good politics too...

Posted by: Black Yalie | September 4, 2008 4:47 PM | Report abuse

At a time when America is engaged in two wars and the credibility of U.S. leadership around the world is historic lows, do we really want a Vice President with exactly ZERO foreign policy experience? Especially when the president would be a 72-year-old, four-time cancer survivor who would be the oldest ever elected. The GOP prides itself on being the party that will “keep America safe,” but does the idea of placing a 44-year-old self-described “hockey mom” nobody heard about a week ago a heartbeat away from the presidency making anyone on this thread feel safe? Seriously?

Posted by: Len | September 4, 2008 4:46 PM | Report abuse

Black Yalie,

Jimbo and Skeeter wanted me to get this straight before they did all that research you asked about. Do you expect us to believe that you have taken courses from three of Bush former professors especially considering that he graduated from Yale in 68? They said its hard to believe that three of his professors would still be around after 40 yrs. And exactly why should we believe anything you say?

Posted by: sltiowa | September 4, 2008 4:46 PM | Report abuse

Smart move by McCain, probably, to yield the independents to Obama and focus on mobilizing "the base" (the Christian right). I assume that he's realized that it's impossible to win a presidential election in the US if you are somewhat liked by the opposition. Being hated by the opposition is a requirement to get your own people to vote for you. So, this was the right move.

Posted by: Henning | September 4, 2008 4:46 PM | Report abuse

Anonymous, yes it is true that the President submits a "proposed" budget to the Congress. And the President, like any other citizen, has the right to have a position on a piece of legislation, and to voice his opinion. Still, from a numbers standpoint, how do we do the percentages? Particularly considering how legislation is pretty much never about a single thing, and is filled with pork barrel spending, can we really assign a number in this regard? Is it that McCain voted the way Bush "felt" 90% of the time? What if they agreed about some of the legislation, and disagreed about other parts? Also, most legislation passed is passed unanimously in Congress, because most of the legislation that actually gets through isn't controversial. I would agree that it is likely that McCain and Bush agree about a lot of things, because they share the same basic political philosophy. What makes McCain such a compelling figure is that when he disagrees, he doesn't mind saying so, and voting against his President and his party. What he doesn't do is dodge difficult votes, and he doesn't vote "Present".

Posted by: Steve | September 4, 2008 4:45 PM | Report abuse

Steve - I'm a Christian. As a Christian,I spend my free time helping needy people. I bought the "compassionate conservatism" line from Bush in 2000 and 2004 and have seen the results first hand on the streets of Dallas. I will NOT be taken in again. No thank you.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Dave is awesome...Don't you hate when Blacks try to be smart (besides me of course). Don't worry Dave I'm no threat, I'm just into IB (investment banking) and leverage finance. No political ambitions over here. Just HBS and Wall Street!

Posted by: Black Yalie | September 4, 2008 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Republicans bragging about tokenism.

Posted by: Surreal | September 4, 2008 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Derision, divisiveness and dread...
walks and quacks like Karl Rove.

How is this "America First"?

Posted by: Jeff | September 4, 2008 4:41 PM | Report abuse

It seems like a lot of you just don't believe in compassionate conservatism. What you don't understand is that real Christians, like Sara Palin, actually believe in God. We know that God is all loving, infinitely compassionate and forgiving. We try to live our lives in this fashion. But we are human, and imperfect, and we fail sometimes. Still, we try not to judge, and we don't throw people under the wheels because they make a mistake. We know that all we need forgiveness because we are sinners. We are compassionate, and we care. Don't believe the psycho posters, Sarah cares, and she will make a great Vice President.

Posted by: Steve | September 4, 2008 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Black Yalie - U of Michigan

Posted by: Chris in Texas | September 4, 2008 4:36 PM | Report abuse

fred douglas - Huh?

Posted by: Chris in Texas | September 4, 2008 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Chris in Texas...Where did you go to undergrad?

Posted by: Black Yalie | September 4, 2008 4:33 PM | Report abuse

Mike wrote: "I never, EVER, thought I would say this, but this Republican is voting Dem this year. Last night was my most embarrassing moment as a member of this party. Where is our plan for fixing the economy? Iraq? anything? Name calling plays well to the far right, but regular Americans are really turned off by it. She lied several times, and disgracefully trashed their opponents with school yard chants. Have we learned nothing? Why the need to trash church groups and other community organizations? How dumb was that? Trashing people who dedicate their time and energy to helping their fellow man? I thought we were Christians!!!!!!!!"

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People, quit trying to represent yourselves as a "Republican who is now voting for Obama" or a "Democrat who is disgusted with Obama"! It doesn't play well, undermines any valid points you may have and makes you look foolish since no one buys it! Just say what you have to say, whether you be democrat, republican, independent, libertarian, etc. Stop lying!

Posted by: Libertarian Independent | September 4, 2008 4:33 PM | Report abuse

You know chris the author of She Wolf Clinton sayings sure looks sheepish. I cannot wait til he runs from the senate from Pa to really campaign against him. He and his pimps Joe, Subblefield, etc have really trashed Hillary and they never that Mccain thinks ourside the box all the time. Good bye Chris, Good bye Chris. Chris you have damned America too. So good bye Christine Mathews. Good bye.

Posted by: fred douglas | September 4, 2008 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Please pardon spelling errors...I'm on a legislative computer and have to watch my back on it...Some liberal freak hates when I'm on the Washington Post during work hours. I'm currently fulfilling my internship requirements...

Posted by: Black Yalie | September 4, 2008 4:31 PM | Report abuse

Dave, I've met Margaret Thatcher, Margaret Thatcher signed a book of mine (at a Borders in Plano TX), Frau Palin is no Margaret Thatcher.

Posted by: Chris in Texas | September 4, 2008 4:30 PM | Report abuse

Amanda Kyle.....After reading your response I no longer had nothing to say, couldn't have broken it down any better. I will like to thank the republican party/supporters for reassuring me why I am a Democrat, cause either you are deaf or blind, you can hear and see all the lies and deceit.

GO OBAMA/BIDEN 08!!!!

Posted by: Tee | September 4, 2008 4:29 PM | Report abuse

"What exactly does it mean that McCain voted with Bush 90% of the time. Let's have a little lesson in basic American Government. The President has a limited role in legislation. Laws are introduced and passed by the Congress, and the President has nothing other than veto power (and not even line item veto power). Also, the President doesn't exercise his veto power that much. So what does it mean exactly, the 90% number? Does it mean that 90% of the time Bush vetoed a law that McCain didn't vote to override the veto? It has to be that, because that is the only time McCain, or any Congressman, would vote one way or the other on a Presidential vote."

steve, are you so naive that you dont think the president helps craft legislation to be introduced into congress? are you aware that the federal budget is submitted by the executive branch to be approved by congress? do you think that the president doesnt provide his opinion on every significant piece of legislation? do you think he might have his folks lobby on behalf of such legislation? i believe the math is mccain votes = bush supports-10%

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 4:28 PM | Report abuse

Wow - I'm perusing the foreign press and it looks like Sarah Palin has really raised our standing in the world. The Brits are comparing her to Margaret Thatcher. A star is born!!

Posted by: Dave | September 4, 2008 4:25 PM | Report abuse

LOL and writing in CAPS are both annoying. Please stop.

Posted by: Len | September 4, 2008 4:24 PM | Report abuse

Annonymous and Black Yalie.

I started to write something to refute your assertions....but I couldn't. Damn! I hate it when you're right like that....

Posted by: Chris in Texas | September 4, 2008 4:24 PM | Report abuse

And there are dozens more openings, Dave. Dn't worry; there's time.

Posted by: Len | September 4, 2008 4:22 PM | Report abuse


Obama's trying to figure out how to dump Biden and get Hillary back right about now...

Hillary would have a field day with Sarah Palin....Biden will probably try to ask her out...

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 4:21 PM | Report abuse

Steve, Steve, Steve...

So the difference between Republicans and Democrats is that Republicans don't worry about alienating most Americans, because "most real Americans" agree with them?

How would you define "real" Americans in a way that ISN'T offensive? (Presumably you consider yourself a "real" American but who's NOT in your book?)

Republicans think they've cornered the market on patriotism. That's what all those "Country First" banners are about. Country First as opposed to what? (It's always about banners, flags and slogans with Republicans. You try way too hard.

Posted by: Len | September 4, 2008 4:20 PM | Report abuse

It seems by the selection of Palin, and the sales pitch for her, the GOP has given the Dems lots of opportunities for negative ads:

1) McCain's stance against earmarks is ruined by Palin's great success in getting such earmarks. Plus, Palin's right wing views on social issues are identical to the views that have dominated in Washington for most of the last 8 years. In Palin, the GOP has found someone who is not from Washington, but who has already been playing the Washington game from 4000 miles away.

2) Palin's qualifications are in complete contradiction to the criteria for a VP that McCain stated on camera. This might go well with a picture of LBJ being sworn in. Perhaps this is a little risky for Obama, but the GOP is making so many silly claims regarding Palin's experience that they might just create a nice ad.

3) Alaska is perhaps the only state in the country where high fuel prices really boost the economy (now that Palin has managed to change the terms of their contract with Exxon). Thus, there are likely to be some juicy quotes from Palin on the joys of high oil prices.

Posted by: Dave | September 4, 2008 4:18 PM | Report abuse

Seems the slant of the comments are about in proportion to the views expressed in the paper. The Times still has you beat.

Posted by: Glenn | September 4, 2008 4:17 PM | Report abuse

Her speech was real short on substance and long on nasty condescending remarks about Obama. Aside from that much of what she said about her own performance is not supported by the record. Alaska is the most taxpayer subsidized state in the nation. As to the bridge to nowhere she took the money so we paid but didn't even get a bridge. As to whining about the media, Fox News has been unfairly hammering the Democrats for many, many years so a little payback doesn't even begin to even the books. It seems the neocons can dish it out but can't take it very well. Despite all of the substantive stuff she did okay with the speech in terms of delivery and the Republicans are so desparate for anything that can change the subject from their 8 year failure in power that they were beyond joy.

Posted by: cdgainesville | September 4, 2008 4:16 PM | Report abuse

Look...The GOP doesn't owe anyone any explanations. I had a debate w/a prof up here and I flat out told him, that the GOP is the party of the RIGHT, and if you're right, you don't owe any explanation for anything. Bush is a GOD here. I had three of his professor's and though they said his grades were nothing to write home about (in private), who needs good grades when you have that lineage. I'm no cowboy, but I didn't chose Yale for it's chicks. The conncetions that can be made here are far greater than the majority of the people who are reading this can comprehend. Let's face it Barack though he may be smarter than McCain, just doesn't fit the demographic that votes. And to the liberals out there who do vote for the smartest guy in the room, where did that get you in '00. We at Yale believe that Jimbo and Skeeter in West Virginia are the base that matters not the urban populace that festers like a sore in the united states. Education is the key to everyone, but I doubt 60% of the people who write on "The Fix" take an honest look at the legislative records of any candidate. I'm a poli sci major and I study issues like these and I'm blown away on how utterly dumb Americans are. Very sheepish to say the least. This rich kid from Exeter I go to school with said in a class that he hardly showed up for, it doesn't matter what Obama does or says, at the end of the day he's still black. And as trite as that seems, his utter honesty still rings true to me. It's not about policy or ideas...it's about O'Reilly v. Olberman. Left v. Right. And by deviding a populace of morons with a common interest in the country those who do go to schools like mine, can shape and frame this country to their liking. My last message to you fools that write on "The Fix" is, you should ahve taken that pre-SAT class. Then you could have gone Ivy and the gas price wouldn't even phase you. Just a little nugget for you. Now go really research the voting records and you may be surprised. And to Jimbo and Skeeter...the young republicans here at Yale really would like to thank you. We will be graduating soon and getting jobs at Goldman and learn how to send your jobs overseas very soon!

Laterz

Posted by: Black Yalie | September 4, 2008 4:16 PM | Report abuse

"THERE IS NO INTOLERANCE LIKE LIBERAL INTOLERANCE" A vote for Obama will prove to be a vote for indecision and the paralysis of analysis. The big government, big programs of the Dem party serve only to weaken.

Posted by: JM | September 4, 2008 4:14 PM | Report abuse

FAR too many of you are asking logical questions, here. (particularly the Dem policy wonks).

Hello! Anybody home? This is American politics, people....remember?

Who CARES if Sarah Palin has no experience, and is a bottom-of-the-barrel pick?

The important thing is she's hot! This is the land of Paris Hilton, people. Man, otherwise intelligent people can be SOOOOOOOOO dumb...

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 4:14 PM | Report abuse

HILARIOUS - OBAMA COMPLAINING ABOUT BEING CRITICIZED AT RNC

LOL. All candidates get criticized at the opponent's convention. McCain was criticized at Obama's convention. Now, Obama and the Democrats are CRYING, saying that Sarah Palin and other Democrats were criticizing him in their convention speeches.

Just to make this clear, none of the criticism was mean and personal, like how Obama said McCain had a "temperament" issue in Obama's nomination speech. Obama's crying about criticism about his rhetoric not having any meat in it, and so on.

LOL. DOUBLE STANDARDS.

Obama has a whole vision of affirmative action politics. One can't jokingly, mildly criticize at african american candidate, even at the other party's convention.

Is there anything he's ever had to earn or achieve without racial preferences???

I'd like to see him take what Sarah Palin has taken from the press over the past week. Obama would develop a traumatic stress disorder!

Maybe Obama and Dems are now going to complain that he's being criticized at the RNC on account of his RACE!

If Obama can't handle the normal, mildly adversarial rhetoric of a national campaign, what is he doing in politics? How would he deal with country leaders who hate us?

WOW.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 4, 2008 4:14 PM | Report abuse

One interesting angle lies in her identification of the media -- and that means you, Chris -- as a partisan power center separate from the public interest. Nonsense of course; but it does point to a larger issue. The MSM have in fact done a pretty poor job of articulating the legitimacy of their role in our democratic system to an increasingly cynical public.

Perhaps you can convince your editors to give you an extra paragraph or two to explain why things like improper use of power or suppressing information actually matter to the common man. Otherwise he will continue to see the public discourse you enable as a kind of a gotcha game played among the elite, that has no bearing upon the issues he faces every day.

Posted by: Bob | September 4, 2008 4:13 PM | Report abuse

HILARIOUS - OBAMA COMPLAINING ABOUT BEING CRITICIZED AT RNC

LOL. All candidates get criticized at the opponent's convention. McCain was criticized at Obama's convention. Now, Obama and the Democrats are CRYING, saying that Sarah Palin and other Democrats were criticizing him in their convention speeches.

Just to make this clear, none of the criticism was mean and personal, like how Obama said McCain had a "temperament" issue in Obama's nomination speech. Obama's crying about criticism about his rhetoric not having any meat in it, and so on.

LOL. DOUBLE STANDARDS.

Obama has a whole vision of affirmative action politics. One can't jokingly, mildly criticize at african american candidate, even at the other party's convention.

Is there anything he's ever had to earn or achieve without racial preferences???

I'd like to see him take what Sarah Palin has taken from the press over the past week. Obama would develop a traumatic stress disorder!

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 4, 2008 4:11 PM | Report abuse

Yes, she did well. Right about the press and dead on MSNBC-loser station except Brokaw & Gregory.
{Do not mention CM and KO yech!}
And BO was wrong not to pick Hillary- it looks weak and dumb. Biden? Please no one voted for him in primaries. It was the Clintons who did the healing. How's BO going to reach across the isle, let alone the world, when he can't manage Bill and Hillary? Gees! Common sense. Ask JFK w/ LBJ. 18,000,000 votes Michelle B. Go on Wheel of Fortune and get a clue.

I will vote Deems in certain offices-Rahm Emmanuel- and Nader for president. These folks are too much. Mc Cain will not make it and BO is just not the guy so far. Palin is fun and may be a reformer but creationism and Mc Same, who is a nice, brave man, is ill, old and let bush beat him up to badly before.
Bring back socially smart liberal to moderate republicans and more fiscally responsible, strong deems like the Clintons.
Get rid of reid and pelosi-replace with Rahm and Hillary. Then you might have something there.

Posted by: Tom | September 4, 2008 4:09 PM | Report abuse

Holy crapoli. I have never heard so much nasty, racist garbage from adults. The GOP should be proud. I guess that is their base? Don't fret. They won't get in. Way over the top.
Obama/Biden '08

Posted by: JestMe | September 4, 2008 4:09 PM | Report abuse

I have to agree with the above comment. It was a dull, dull speech. I am shocked at the way the media is reacting to it.

She was more animated when talking about her family, but for the rest of it, it was obvious she was just reading GOP talking points.

Posted by: Dan | September 4, 2008 4:09 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, but I fell asleep during Giuliani's speech. I gather I didn't miss much.

Posted by: Save the Polar Bears | September 4, 2008 4:09 PM | Report abuse

Chris in Texas, I hope so. I'm not a Hillary supporter, but she is EXACTLY the right Democrat to take the fight to Ms. Alaska. A smart, experienced woman who really DOES have the qualifications to be president would leave Sarah palin' by comparison.

Posted by: Len | September 4, 2008 4:08 PM | Report abuse

Howard B - she isn't the most qualified pick. All of the republican women qualified to serve as VP ran as fast as they could from McCain. They've worked with him for years in the Senate and can't stand the man. He's a pompous, arrogant jerk (I've met the man and agree with them). They had to go WAY DOWN the list to find Frau Palin. She's the only one stupid enough to accept his offer.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 4:07 PM | Report abuse

Small town crap. Me and everybody else are too busy working in our small town to give a crap about what other people think. She's just trying to get elected. She quit her small town the moment she left it.

Posted by: SoonerSam | September 4, 2008 4:06 PM | Report abuse

It isn't hard to imagine politicians telling lies. As a matter of fact, I don't have to imagine it because I watched the Democratic National Convention last week. That's the difference between Republicans and Democrats. Republicans come right out and say how they feel and what they believe in. They aren't ashamed at all, and they really don't have to worry about alienating most Americans, because most real Americans agree with a lot of what they have to say, and they appreciate in any event that someone is speaking their mind, whether they agree or not. It is the opposite with Democrats, they must, by necessity, hedge their comments and outright obfuscate their actual beliefs, because if people knew what they actually believe and stand for, they would run out of town on a rail.

Posted by: Steve | September 4, 2008 4:05 PM | Report abuse

Amanda Kyle -

Your intolerance is sick. Sorry that you think that Palin is a disgrace to women because she is not of your party.

Shame on you for putting your wicked paritsanship above all else. You are a disgrace to feminism and a disgrace to women. You care more about your stupid party than you do women.

Go crawl back under whatever slimy rock you came from, traitor.

Posted by: Michelle Ryerson | September 4, 2008 4:05 PM | Report abuse

for those of you who do not want four more years of Bush. republicans do not want that either.We want experience mixed with change,hope and actual reform . Now that is the ticket we should be voting for. Nominating a democratic president does not guarantee sucess.If we looked at the past with Jimmy Carter administration who was catastrophic to his people back then.Vote with your mind and heart ,Vote Mccain/Palin

Posted by: cvo | September 4, 2008 4:05 PM | Report abuse

'Our mama beats your Obama' - I love it!!

Posted by: Dave | September 4, 2008 4:03 PM | Report abuse

hdimig - ummm. Personally I don't recall "pounding Hillary over the head" with anything. I would have loved to see her take McCain, and especially Palin apart piece by piece. It would have been a true joy. I would have loved to see her as VP as well. I believe that Obama made a mistake there. If he had put her on the ticket the Republican convention would have been an interesting exercise in futility. Perhaps she didn't want the VP spot? But you work with the hands you're dealt. Anyone but Mccain!

Posted by: Chris in Texas | September 4, 2008 4:03 PM | Report abuse

Thanks Sarah, I just made a contribution to the Obama campaign in your name. I'm off the fence!!!!!

Posted by: Nuwanda | September 4, 2008 4:03 PM | Report abuse

I am truly disappointed by the prejudging -dare I say prejudice - shown by candidate Palin (the pitbull in lipstick) in attacking a man she has apparently never met and whose work she clearly doesn't understand. Wow - and then she and the Republicans dare to cry "sexism" when anyone from the media asks a legitimate question about her record and experience. That wasn't the "-ism" evident in her speech.
Senior Citizen Feminist

Posted by: Senior Citizen Feminist | September 4, 2008 4:03 PM | Report abuse

rmorrow, why do you assume that the blogging crew at the WAPO is not made up of average Americans? Do you have some super psychic insight into what all average Americans are thinking today?

Posted by: RobInDC | September 4, 2008 4:03 PM | Report abuse

Marlene wrote
I can not vote for a candidate who says Eye-Rack. It's Er-rack. Take a look at the "sermons" by the minister of her local church -- he ranks right up there Obama's former minister. ... and she only got a passport in 2006 - and has barely ever traveled outside the US.
Sorry Marlene but she was right http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Iraq
this is how you pronounce the iraq. now are you going to vote for her?
Sarah filled my heart with joy . She made me proud to be a woman. she just has it all. I was not going to vote this year but for Ms Palin . I would be honored to vote for someone like her!

Posted by: cvo | September 4, 2008 4:01 PM | Report abuse

"All of you liberals are jealous of Carl Rove because he is just flat out Smarter than you!!"

Jealous of Rove? Yeah, just as jealous as I am of Benedict Arnold, Abramhoff, and all the Enron execs. I want so badly to be as scummy as them!

Gee, what other "great" figures do you worship? Torquemada one of your idols?

Posted by: tm | September 4, 2008 4:00 PM | Report abuse

Will one -- just ONE -- McCain supporter here tell me how Sarah Palin was the most qualified vice presidential pick available? That's all I ask. Just please, please, please help me understand how this woman was the MOST QUALIFIED nominee the Republicans could select. Then I'll shut up.

Anyone?

Posted by: Howard B | September 4, 2008 3:59 PM | Report abuse

What exactly does it mean that McCain voted with Bush 90% of the time. Let's have a little lesson in basic American Government. The President has a limited role in legislation. Laws are introduced and passed by the Congress, and the President has nothing other than veto power (and not even line item veto power). Also, the President doesn't exercise his veto power that much. So what does it mean exactly, the 90% number? Does it mean that 90% of the time Bush vetoed a law that McCain didn't vote to override the veto? It has to be that, because that is the only time McCain, or any Congressman, would vote one way or the other on a Presidential vote.

Posted by: Steve | September 4, 2008 3:59 PM | Report abuse

I'm from Alaska, and have to say that Sarah was very embarassing! Well, at least for Alaskan's we now know her true colors. How can she come home? I didn't vote for her as Governor & most certainly wouldn't vote a ticket that has her as Veep. Do you really want to trust her judgement with America? Look at the situation Alaska is left with.. she is running off to be Veep, her Lt. Governor is in a tight race with Congressman Don Young. They both ran off & left our Executive branch without leadership! Amazing! gees, try visualize her taking the 3:00 a.m phone call! State national guards & civil militia better start planning to defend their own states in the long term if we're going to count on someone like Sarah for national defense. Holy smokes! America gone mad.

Posted by: Don | September 4, 2008 3:59 PM | Report abuse

I hope McCain, if elected, spends just a tad more time vetting his Sec of Defense, Atty General, etc. But now it's evident that McCain's bad judgment on this VP pick will surely mean Obama will win, thank God! We really can't afford 4 more years of the same.

Palin read the speech nicely - great delivery - but what substance did she offer? And did she say ANYTHING that came from HER? (Maybe the pitt bull part?) She came across as a sarcastic, negative light-weight - not ready for prime time.

Posted by: Concerned | September 4, 2008 3:59 PM | Report abuse

Man, the blogging crew at the Post is so far removed from the mindset of average Americans, it is funny.

No wonder you guys are so confused. You spend all day with people who share your petty hatred, so you make the mistake of thinking that all Americans are as petty and hateful as you.

You guys are in for quite a surprise on election day. LOL. Can't wait.

Posted by: rmorrow | September 4, 2008 3:58 PM | Report abuse

Steve writes: "I have never seen a more caring and loving family. It isn't a show, you can see the love of the older children for their disabled sibling, and you can see how it is supposed to work."

I'm not asserting those things aren't true, but there's no way you can assert that they are. Is the idea of Republicans (or any politicians) telling lies that hard to believe? It was a show... and Ms. Palin is a fine actress. That's all.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 3:58 PM | Report abuse

Len,

You're absolutely right. The Democratic party should unleash Hillary Clinton on Frau Palin. The absolute gall of Palin's pandering to women who supported Clinton is pathetic. It reminds me of Dan Quayle comparing himself to John Kennedy. The Dems need Clinton to play the role of Benson. The question is, will she do it?

Posted by: Chris in Texas | September 4, 2008 3:57 PM | Report abuse

Jeremiah Wright - "...you want me to sing God Bless America? No No No, God Damn America!!!"

Oh yeah, my response is:

You want me to vote for Barrack Obama? No No No, God damn Barrack Obama!!!!

Posted by: Dave | September 4, 2008 3:55 PM | Report abuse

GOD HAS SHE SCARED THE YOU KNOW WHAT OUT OF THE LIBERAL CROWD. A WOMAN WHO CAN STAND ON HER OWN! ONE NOT AFRAID TO CALL A SPADE A SPADE!! A WOMAN NOT APPROVED BY THE DONT HAVE A MAN DONT WANT A BABY CROWD! A WOMAN WHO CAN MANAGE TO BE A MOM AND WIFE AND ALSO COMMANDER IN CHIEF OF THE ALASKE NATIONAL GUARD.
OH HE... WHAT WILL WE DO NOW?
BAMA DOES NOT HAVE ANY EXPERIENCE EXCEPT VOTING PRESENT AND WRITING TWO FICTIONAL BOOKS PASSED OF AS MEMOIRS.
WOW IS OBAMA IN TROUBLE.
WOW WHAT IF THEY LOOK INTO OBMAMB'S BACKGROUND LIKE THEY DID PALIN.
WOW WOW! LETS TRASH HER COME ON GUYS AND GALL FROM THE LEFT GO ON AND TRASH HER AND TRASH EVERYTHING THAT IS GOOD ABOUT AMERICA.
AFTER ALL OBAMA SAID WORKING AMERICANS ARE BITTER, CHURCH GOERS WHO HAVE GUNS.
AND HIS PREACHER SAID, "GOD DAMN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA." AND HIS WIFE SAID THE ONLY THING ABOUT AMERICA SHE IS PROUD OF IS HER HUSBAND.

Posted by: charles Lyons | September 4, 2008 3:54 PM | Report abuse

A on delivery. F on substance. For an "outsider" she hit all the talking points of a right-wing divisive partisan. Nothing new. Bush and McCains speech writers prepared her well. I think the ever right-wing tone of this convention is going to drive the moderates and independents towards Obama/Biden. Which is ironic since McCain was suppose to be the guy who could attract those moderate and independent voters. The messege from this convention is that the GOP does not need those moderates and independents. Could be bad news for the GOP.

Posted by: Jim K. | September 4, 2008 3:53 PM | Report abuse

Obama - studied at a madrassa, snorted cocaine as a young man, his preacher hates America, his wife was never proud of America until recently, corrupt real estate dealings with a convicted felon.

Posted by: Dave | September 4, 2008 3:52 PM | Report abuse

"Well Kurt. It was because Bush/Cheney manufactured the evidence in their run up to the Iraq war and LIED to the senate, house of reps., and the people of the US. They even paraded Colin Powell in front of the UN to present these LIES. Any wonder why Powell left the Bush admin? Based on those LIES, most of our elected reps voted to authorize him to use force."

Nice. How come you can use those facts as an excuse with Biden when you pounded Hillary over the head with them for 6 long months? More Obamapocrisy.

Posted by: hdimig | September 4, 2008 3:52 PM | Report abuse

I am from Juneau, Alaska and a member of the political world. I know and work with Sarah. For starters I am tired of hearing how bad we are up here and how Sarah is such an amazing reformer that has cleaned up our state. It is true that Alaska has made a lot of positive changes since she took office but let's be honest it wasn't just because of Sarah. At times it was even in spite of her. Ethics reform here began far before she took over and in the end what we passed went far beyond what she requested. I am also sick of hearing how she "cut spending, cut taxes and balanced our budget." Our total budget actually went up by 34% this year. Our budget was “balanced” but only because we have more cash then we know what to do with because of the spike in oil revenues (which makes up 85% of our total state revenues). Also keep in mind Alaska is a state with no personal income tax or sales tax and the only real "tax" in this state is on corporations, including oil companies. However under Sarah’s leadership corporate taxes increased. Sarah also directed us to hand out, in addition to our normal annual dividend, which this year will be around $2000, an additional $1200 to every man, women and child to off set the increase in energy costs. Ask any of the lower 48 governors what their approval rating would be if they had unlimited revenue to fund government and could handout piles of cash to every resident. Please tell me this is all just a bad dream and American will wake-up and see that Sarah is just the hot girl in class that makes good with a smile and telling us all what we want to hear - which to be honest if you listen isn’t really anything at all. She does deserve credit for being the in right place at the right time, but to take credit for good deeds that for the most part were done by others doesn’t sit well with those of us that did make it happen. The real reason American isn’t hearing the truth about Sarah is because the McCain marketing team is actively branding their new “product.” You also won’t hear a lot “directly” from us that have a dog in the fight because we all know we will end up on her blacklist and with her even greater new found “power” our next job will be finding a spot in the woods to bury our dogs.

Posted by: akwatcher | September 4, 2008 3:51 PM | Report abuse

All of you liberals are jealous of Carl Rove because he is just flat out Smarter than you!!
Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 3:41 PM

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On the other hand, we can spell his name, so we've got that going for us.

Posted by: GrouchoMarxist | September 4, 2008 3:51 PM | Report abuse

You gotta give it to Patrick from PG. He starts out by saying "Wow, such harsh words from both sides of the aisle". I thought this might be followed by some reasoned thoughts on the election, but instead it is followed by the old liberal elitist charge that we are "Idiots". That's right, just keep talking that way, and insinuating that everyone who disagrees with you is an "Idiot" or a "Fascist". It just isn't possible that a Republican is an intelligent thinking person who happens to disagree with you about something. We must be "Nazis!" (my favorite). And as a special needs parent I really think you should stop questioning how she is raising her child. I mean, go ahead, but risk alienating Democratic special needs parents. We understand the challenges in a way that most people just can't, because they don't know. I have never seen a more caring and loving family. It isn't a show, you can see the love of the older children for their disabled sibling, and you can see how it is supposed to work. In a real family, you work together to overcome obstacles, and to support each other. Such beautiful people up there, and such despicable people in here.

Posted by: Steve | September 4, 2008 3:50 PM | Report abuse

If Sarah Palin is so awesome, why is she the the only one out of Obama/Biden/McCain not appearing on a Sunday morning press show? Maybe because she'll be called a LIAR for her repeated assertion about the Bridge to Nowhere?

Nah, can't be that. The media is completely rolling over for the Republicans.

Posted by: John M. | September 4, 2008 3:50 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for the kick in the ass. We're gonna work even harder now!
Posted by: RobInDC | September 4, 2008 3:45 PM

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Yep. Every time they try to pull a hit job like that painfully obvious bit of moose poop last night, we donate more, we make more calls, we register more voters, and we work even harder. They haven't quite figured it out, yet, but they will.

Posted by: GrouchoMarxist | September 4, 2008 3:49 PM | Report abuse

If Sarah Palin is so awesome, why is the the only one of Obama/Biden/McCain not appearing on a Sunday press interview? When is the McCain campaign going to stop hiding her from the press?

Posted by: John M. | September 4, 2008 3:49 PM | Report abuse

Yes, Sarah Palin is telegenic and smart. Yes, she proved she can deliver an effective, well-crafted speech to an RNC audience desperate to infuse a moribund, new-idea-free campaign with some energy and personality. But what she also showed America was that she could be petty, partisan, condescending and blatantly dishonest. Her belittling comments about Obama’s supposed lack of experience – how’s that for irony? – made her (and McCain) look like standard-issue Republicans – which is exactly what millions of Americans have said they’ve tired of. If Democrats have the courage they should fire back at her just as forcefully instead of taking the high road for fear of a backlash. I think Obama should have Hillary lead the attack, squashing the GOP’s cynical “any female will do” argument while at the same time pointing out Palin’s inexperience and extreme social positions relative to her own.

After all the Sarah-mania and post-convention buzz dies down, people will remember the election is about the top of the ticket and focus on what Obama and McCain represent (Change vs. More of Same). What last night showed us is that the Republicans won’t go down without a fight and that in the next two months Obama needs to do a better job of contrasting his definition of “change” with McCain’s. Isn’t it interesting how Republicans are trying to seize the “change” mantle for their own purposes?

Most voters already know what Obama means by change – 1. a break from the current GOP blueprint: offering negligible tax relief for the middle class and poor while the richest 5% make out like bandits; and 2. exploiting fear of terrorism to keep America in a perpetual state of war that lines the pockets of big business to name a couple.

Unfortunately, Obama may need to keep driving that point home to undecided voters and those who haven’t been paying attention – voters who may end up swinging the election. Until Obama he does that (he will) FOX News and right-wing talk radio will keep spinning the yarn that somehow a man who voted with George W. Bush 90% of the time somehow represents change. (Good luck trying to make that argument, GOP).

Bring on the debates!

Posted by: Len | September 4, 2008 3:49 PM | Report abuse

"WWAAAAAAAAAUUUGGHHH!!! There's a woman stealing my job!!!

Posted by: Joe Biden | September 4, 2008 3:48 PM | Report abuse

It was a decent speech. You may not like the content, but she is better than Dan Quayle or Admiral Stockdale. I hate Republicans and The RNC convention! During the DNC convention I was wondering if anything could be worse. Yes it can! The RNC convention is horrid. I wish I could be more enthusiastic about Obama, but the downstream Dems can count on my vote!

Posted by: hdimig | September 4, 2008 3:48 PM | Report abuse

Alright RobinDC, that's what we are doing here in South Carolina, getting folks registered to vote.

Posted by: traveladysc | September 4, 2008 3:47 PM | Report abuse

Guys would much rather look at Sarah Palin for the next four years than Joe Biden.

Posted by: Dave | September 4, 2008 3:47 PM | Report abuse

Where do I get a job as a "community organizer?"

Posted by: Dave | September 4, 2008 3:43 PM

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You don't. You're not qualified.

Posted by: GrouchoMarxist | September 4, 2008 3:46 PM | Report abuse

Only an idiot partisan "journalist" living in a bubble would even need to ask the question, "How did she do?"

How much more out of touch can the MSNBC crowd be?

Posted by: rmorrow | September 4, 2008 3:46 PM | Report abuse

I just read through the comments and WOW are people mean. Incredibly mean. It is funny to think about how kind everyone was to each other when 9-11 happened. I guess it is much harder to just be nice and civil towards one another.

Posted by: Jen | September 4, 2008 3:46 PM | Report abuse

Dave,

You're not qualified to be a "community organizer". To be one you actually have to care about the well being of other people. You know, hungry kids, families without healthcare, and all the other losers that the Bush administration left behind while shoveling money to the oil and pharmaceutical companies.

Posted by: Chris in Texas | September 4, 2008 3:46 PM | Report abuse

Dianne 72, you seem quite ghetto. What is your problem? It seems like you are jealous or threatned by this intelligent lady (Michelle Obama). You better be careful what you dish out, karma is a bithch. You racist a_ _ hole.

Posted by: traveladysc | September 4, 2008 3:45 PM | Report abuse

Obama might have to go back to being a "community organizer."

Posted by: Dave | September 4, 2008 3:45 PM | Report abuse

For all of the posters here saying that Obama and the Democrats are toast, you should know that every friend and coworker I've talked to today (all Obama supporters) have said that they are going to work even harder for his election after last night's party rally. These are folks who are really more of the types to make a contribution but not do any volunteer work, however they are signing up for get out the vote efforts and planning to drive voters to the polls in November. Thanks for the kick in the ass. We're gonna work even harder now!

Posted by: RobInDC | September 4, 2008 3:45 PM | Report abuse

Kurt sez "why when picking a running mate based of foreign policy/miltary experience did he select a Senator who supported the invasion of Iraq?"

Well Kurt. It was because Bush/Cheney manufactured the evidence in their run up to the Iraq war and LIED to the senate, house of reps., and the people of the US. They even paraded Colin Powell in front of the UN to present these LIES. Any wonder why Powell left the Bush admin? Based on those LIES, most of our elected reps voted to authorize him to use force.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 3:43 PM | Report abuse

Where do I get a job as a "community organizer?"

Posted by: Dave | September 4, 2008 3:43 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin = Bush 2.0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhjuRMi_78U

Here we go again!

Another "reformer with results" country governor who masks extreme rightwing views and total incompetence with folksiness and platitudes about being "compassionate".

Just another pretty face on the ugly policies of environmental destruction, more subsidies for Big Oil, more wars and hatred abroad, and more partisan warfare and religious extremism at home.

Posted by: Sarah McBush | September 4, 2008 3:43 PM | Report abuse

Wow. Such harsh words from both sides of the aisle. Her speech was very effective and it reached the audience that the Republicans are looking for; White Americans in the Midwest and South. Those are the same idiots who backed Bush for 8 years. They are the same idiots who are living check to check and are sending their kids to Iraq to die. Her selection was a classic Republican strategy from the 1980's. Do you remeber affirmative action in the workplace? Well Republicans found a way around it by promoting white woman instead of blacks. It is the same thing here. How do you counter a Black man who is talented? You get a white female who is attactive. If McCain/Palin win the election OUR Country will be in big trouble but that is ok because the ones that will be impacted the most will be the dummies who voted Republican.

Posted by: Patrick from PG | September 4, 2008 3:42 PM | Report abuse

All of you liberals are jealous of Carl Rove because he is just flat out Smarter than you!!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 3:41 PM | Report abuse

Are you telling me to shut up? What about my right to free speech? Help, Help I'm being oppressed!!!!

Posted by: Dave | September 4, 2008 3:41 PM | Report abuse

Dave, if you have some evidence that Obama went to Pakistan to join a jihad against the Russians then PUT IT ON THE TABLE. Otherwise, stop making a fool of yourself with your internet troll conspiracy theories.

Posted by: anonymous | September 4, 2008 3:39 PM | Report abuse

"Insane!" the posters wail. "Hottie, good looking..." Up is down, and down is up, as the liberal posters spew sexist hate at this accomplished woman. That's what she is, an accomplished, outspoken, articulate woman. Her looks have nothing to do with this, and you misogynists who proclaim yourselves to be for women's rights should be ashamed of yourselves. I hope you have trouble sleeping at night. What is clear, even more clear than it has been for some time, is that liberals are all for women's rights, just so long as the woman in question walks in lockstep with their views. You people make me sick. Obama had some of the same problems with the radical African American activists, that he wasn't really black, because he disagreed with some of their ideas and policies (see NYT magazine article). It is the same nonsense that Rice and Powell had to deal with, this vicious attack that they aren't really "black" because of their views. I am a Public Defender, in an office of lefties, and speaking with the women in my office today they had nothing but good things to say about Gov. Palin, and her speech. They still aren't going to vote for McCain, because they honestly disagree with his policies, but they don't stoop to the kind of garbage the posters use as their stock in trade. Hopefully, in four years, we will see a Hillary v. Palin race. That would be something.

Posted by: Steve | September 4, 2008 3:38 PM | Report abuse

Wonderful.
Her presence alone guarantees millions of Obama contributions in the coming weeks.

Each time she speaks, it's Golden.

Run Sarah, Run.

Posted by: Salmon Rush Die | September 4, 2008 3:38 PM | Report abuse

The Land God Forgot

The lonely sunsets flare forlorn
Down valleys dreadly desolate;
The lordly mountains soar in scorn
As still as death, as stern as fate.

The lonely sunsets flame and die;
The giant valleys gulp the night;
The monster mountains scrape the sky,
Where eager stars are diamond-bright.

So gaunt against the gibbous moon,
Piercing the silence velvet-piled,
A lone wolf howls his ancient rune --
The fell arch-spirit of the Wild.

O outcast land! O leper land!
Let the lone wolf-cry all express
The hate insensate of thy hand,
Thy heart's abysmal loneliness.

So sayeth Robert W. Service and so sayeth we all. Palin combines both "the hate insensate" and " her heart's abysmal loneliness" into a tirade worthy of the Nuremberg orations. Nice to know who the new Jews are.

Posted by: john | September 4, 2008 3:38 PM | Report abuse

Hey Gibbon. Give it up with the Islam thing, okay? If he went to Pakistan with two Christians, would that be okay? People in the 20's explore which is one of the benefits of being young. Did you know that the human brain is not fully developed until the age of 25? Did you do anything in your twenties that you regret? Of course you didn't. Do you know anything about Islam? Of course you don't. You and those of you persuasion would rather wallow in ignorance as opposed to expending some energy to learn something that might alter your very limited worldview. I voted for Bush. I also attended a church where anger at this great country has been expressed - vehemently at times. I also have friends who are Moslem. So what?? You and those like you are amazingly inconsistent. He went to a Christian church but the message was un-American but he has Moslem roots so he must be a Moslem sympathizer. Make up you mind. What is he? Who are you? Do you have your lapel pin on? Of course you do.
By the way, who told you about the trip? Were you provided documents to substantiate the trip? Did Sean Hannity tell you or did he allow you to watch the video? Grow up, Guy. If you don't like the man, don't vote for him but to question a man's patriotism and love for his country because he doen't think, look or act like you is nothing short of disgusting.

Posted by: OhWell | September 4, 2008 3:37 PM | Report abuse

I think you got the point.
Posted by: Tuathe | September 4, 2008 3:20 PM

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Yep:

Noun,verb,POW/Noun,verb,Hockey Mom '08!

Same old crap, only this time with 30% more lipstick.

Posted by: GrouchoMarxist | September 4, 2008 3:37 PM | Report abuse

Last night's comments were interesting. Democrat: she didn't mention economics. Response: she spent a lot of time on economics, talking about McC's energy plan and how it would provide jobs for Americans and also allow our money to be investing INSIDE the USA and not sent abroad. Also, she said that his tax plan would provide more jobs in industry than Obama's, which would send jobs abroad and discussed how that would happen. Democrat: she did not talk about foreign policy. Response: she discussed the difference between O's reaction to the Russia-Georgia crisis and McC's explaining how different the approaches were, and why McC was right. She discussed the experience of McC in foreign policy. It goes on. One wonders whether the TV Democrats were watching the speech or were busy writing generic criticisms that were not applicable. So far, most of the Democratic criticisms of the speech were answered IN the speech. The writer was pretty good, and she delivered it well.

Posted by: John Jay | September 4, 2008 3:37 PM | Report abuse

Excuse me, but did I hear correctly that the GOP now wants change? Did hear correctly that the GOP hates Washington insiders? Correct me if I'm wrong, but hasn't the GOP controlled the White House for the last eight years, and both houses of Congress for six of the last eight years? And if John McCain isn't a Washington insider, who is? From an objective stand point, this is such an obvious line of b.s. that it's not clear how anyone withan IQ in the triple digits would believe it.

Posted by: view from the couch | September 4, 2008 3:37 PM | Report abuse

The last person to run as a Washington outside and win trampled on the Bill of Rights, brought us costly wars in which victory was never a possibility and did little to avert economic crisis--and he's smiled all the way through it. We do not need any more clueless outsiders.
And the thing about pit bulls and soccer moms? Was that really supposed to be funny?

Posted by: Diogenes | September 4, 2008 3:36 PM | Report abuse

Can the Washington Post please tell me what Obama was doing in Pakistan in the early 1980's?

Posted by: Dave | September 4, 2008 3:36 PM | Report abuse

i think obama only memorized the part of the koran that says, "You have your relition and i have mine" before it was abbrogated (erased and replaced) by teh newer revelation that your supposed to hunt down and kill the infidels (non muslims) wherever you find them.

Posted by: obbama husein | September 4, 2008 3:35 PM | Report abuse

This speech was immature and lacked substance. It was like a schoolyard fight. I don't think this speech reflects very well on her, or the GOP. She also used her youngest child as a prop...which is insulting considering she will be leaving that child and his extraordinary needs for more than 3 months while she campaigns for a job thousands of miles away.

I hope this sounded juvenile enough to make to tighty righties happy.

Posted by: anon | September 3, 2008 11:27 PM

*****

Oh no! she plans on taking him everywhere she campaigns. It is very important for people to know that she is a mom or a special needs baby. What more qualifications do you need? (GAA! eye roll!) She's a mom and a stalwart Republican who believes in the right to life no matter what the situation. Don't you get it! Right is right and anything left of right is wroooong! You really need to get with the program.

Posted by: Tuathe | September 4, 2008 3:33 PM | Report abuse

Thanks in advance Washington Post for following up and discerning the facts behind Palin's vast past experience that qualifies her to be VP/President. Please send one of your best reporters to interview her about substantive issues. Does she have the education, experience or accomplishments in any area to be deemed an expert at anything except spewing sarcasm and degrading those who help the vulnerable?

Posted by: Feminist | September 4, 2008 3:33 PM | Report abuse

"During college, Obama went to Pakistan"..... Wait a minute, that would about the 1982 time frame, wouldn't it? Did Obama go there for the jihad against the Russians? Did he meet with any future Al-Qa'ida members?

Posted by: Dave | September 4, 2008 3:32 PM | Report abuse

Yes, Dave, Obama was honest, unlike George W. Bush who has refused to answer questions about his past drug use. If he hadn't done it he would have said so. I'd prefer someone who faces up to their past than tries to hide it any day.

Posted by: anonymous | September 4, 2008 3:32 PM | Report abuse

"Through his book, Obama has become the first potential presidential contender to admit trying cocaine" - Washington Post, 03 January 2007.

Posted by: Dave | September 4, 2008 3:24 PM

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As opposed to W, who lied about it...


Posted by: GrouchoMarxist | September 4, 2008 3:32 PM | Report abuse

Last night's Republican event shows how far we have come toward the goal of gender equality, with Palin proving herself every bit as much of an ambitious, self-serving, smarmy, self-congratulatory petty fascist as either Romney or Giuliani. This whole VP selection phase of the campaign speaks volumes about McCain as a decision-maker, aka President. No thanks!

Posted by: CN in Idaho | September 4, 2008 3:31 PM | Report abuse

Palin showed last night that she can be as deceitful, vindictive and sarcastic as any man.

Back home in Alaska she has shown that she is as fiscally irresponsible and comfortable with graft and cronyism as Bush.

She spent her little town's surplus into a $22 mil debt. (which is a lot for a town of 5,000) - even after securing $27 mil in earmarked pork - of the kind McCain used to oppose.

She also tried to ban books from the town library and fire the librarian (she failed) for refusing to cooperate.

Start with this article in The Atlantic for details:

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/09/an-wasillan-on.html

Leave it to the Republicans to think a person like this should hold national office. So much for Country First. Nominating Palin is a cynical act of "Party First" at the expense of the U.S.A.

Posted by: ArmyBrat68 | September 4, 2008 3:31 PM | Report abuse

I just want the media to ask Barak Obama just one question about his choice of Joe Biden.

"If Obama's opposition to the Iraq war is the central issue of his campaign then why when picking a running mate based of foreign policy/miltary experience did he select a Senator who supported the invasion of Iraq?"

Obama received the Dem nomination albeit by a hair based on two reasons-his race and his opposition to the Iraq War. He positioned Clinton as the "war candidate." Why then did he pick a veep with an Iraq war vote identical to Clinton?

With all of the socialist, "change" agent, peacenick members of the Democrat's delegation to Congress and he picks a guy who's served in the Senate three decades and voted yea to troops in Iraq?

The Dem's want to say picking Palin was a pandering pick? Too funny.

Posted by: Kurt J. Eckhardt | September 4, 2008 3:31 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin introduced us to her family last night and just as we expected they turned out to be your basic born-again white trash, complete with a hockey star and a champion sno-mobil racer.

Posted by: As expectted ... | September 4, 2008 3:30 PM | Report abuse

Black's shouldn't be in the white house...It's football season, that's where they should be...entertaining. McCain could have paraded a transvestite cyclops out there and Obama still wouldn't stand a chance. I know all of the blogger's and or commentary will state "we're above all of that..." and that needs to stop. We're not above anything. 60 years removed from the civil rights and voting rights isn't enough. Football, basketball, singing, dancing, and Tiger Woods....that's all we get....I'm cool with it though, you should be too

Posted by: Black Yalie | September 4, 2008 3:30 PM | Report abuse

Not impressed by Sarah Palin in the least. Parading a female VP is a poor strategy for McCain whose own party members were not too enthusiastic about him before the announcement. The assumption that the women of America will support him simply because he has a woman on his ticket is a disservice to intelligent women everywhere. We vote on values and issues that are important to us.

Just as Palin wants the media to leave her daughter's pregnancy out of the discussion because it is a 'private matter', so is my right to choose whether or not to have an abortion. This is not an electable platform any longer - leave my 'private matter' out of your public policy.

Posted by: Jennifer | September 4, 2008 3:30 PM | Report abuse

Rumor:

Russia has selected a "Hockey Mom" from Siberia to be second in command to the Russian President. She will be a heartbeat away from the nuclear button.

Posted by: Harris | September 4, 2008 3:29 PM | Report abuse

Bush with lipstick.

Posted by: Bud | September 4, 2008 3:29 PM | Report abuse

During college, Obama went to Pakistan with a friend who was visiting his family. What is so weird about that? Who hasn't gone home with a friend and met their family? His friend was in college in the US and now lives and works as an executive in New York, so it is a safe bet that he isn't some Islamic radical supporting Al Quaeda in Pakistan.

Posted by: PakiWaki | September 4, 2008 3:28 PM | Report abuse

Do a Poll- Palin Vs Obama for President.

Obama would win with about 78% of the vote.

Obama has been scrutinized by the natinal press for four years and Palin wants to ask him questions?

Rather than try to explain herself to us in two short months before the election!

This is insane and it is apalling that John McCain would stoop to such theatrical tactics as to nominate an unknown hateful hottie into the campaign at the last second.

Posted by: JTS | September 4, 2008 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Watch it again!

Sarah Palin National Convention Speech 09/03/2008

part 1: www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcj4v6YMOZI
part 2: www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzjivV09-Qg
part 3: www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZOpS7YDBEM&feature=related
part 4: www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLdO7qSJn-8

To support Palin's candidacy, you MUST now donate to the RNC, as the McCain campaign has accepted federal funds and can't spend donations for campaigning as of 09/01.

https://secure.gop.com/donate/

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 4, 2008 3:27 PM | Report abuse

MomInABQ - Our president and vice president don't support torture. They support "aggressive interrogation techniques".

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 3:26 PM | Report abuse

GET REAL! Sarah Palin speech contains no real substance. This was more of a distraction speech to divert away from the real issues. The Republicans are not talking about the real issues that plaguing the America people, because they have no solutions. Republicans, what about the economy-jobs loss, rising costs of healthcare, war in Iraq, energy, home foreclosures, education-etc. I was not impress whatsoever-a speech slamming the media, Obama, Biden and the Washington establishment. Sarah Palin, your speech had no merit, or real substances. And kudos to the media, you’re going a great job! Republicans are so out of touch, just look at the crowd at the convention center. There is a lack of diversity in the Republican Party. As the country continues to diversifies, the Republican Party has not. IT VERY OBVIOUS WHAT THE REPUBLICAN PARTY SYMBOLIZE- "A PARTY OF EXCLUSION"

Posted by: ThinkForYourself | September 4, 2008 3:26 PM | Report abuse

What's really scary isn't so much the election -- it's how dumb the people are that actually post here. They can't spell, write correctly or even put cohesive thoughts together. I think by these posts alone both candidates better look into re-educating a sad American public.

The media is always liberal for questioning - that's a brilliant one for the ages -- BECAUSE THAT HAPPENS TO BE THEIR JOB!

I don't like her whiny voice --- another brilliant mind at work. Yes, you go continue to trust the sound over the substance - should get your far.

Someone please educate the midwest and south to look beyond television, and someone get the educated folks on the two coasts to come off their high horses to actually work politics into a substantive discussion and not a media circus where a candidate is decided on by their looks, voice, age, sex or what have you. Someone get a grip on what's going on in this country.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 3:26 PM | Report abuse

I'm constantly amazed by the short-term memory loss of so many Americans. The last 8 year have been HORRRIBLE for this country. Do you really want more? And while i may like Palin and McCain as people, the policies they are calling for are simple repeats of what we already have. Wake up folks. Focus on the issues, not the people. If you are better off now,and truly believe the country is, go ahead for for the GOP ticket. But sadly most of are not better off.

Posted by: sean | September 4, 2008 3:26 PM | Report abuse

Diane72 wrote:
Do you think Michelle Shaniqua Obama
will try to institute that fake ghetto
holiday Kwanza if she gets to the White
House?

We NEED Barack Obama in the White House if only so we can begin to move past racist trailer trash sentiments like this. The fact that you have free speech doesn't mean you aren't vile.

Posted by: anonymous | September 4, 2008 3:25 PM | Report abuse

I don't have voting right of this country. But by just watching of two party's conventions by objective point of view, I think Republican party did not choose a good candidate for VP position. It seems that they chose her just to win the election by getting more women's vote, not thinking about how to run the nation after they win. Obviously, the President of US has to have a well qualified, experienced VP on his side running this country. But it does not seem to be the case for this Republican choice of VP for this election. Palin might be a very good governor of Alaska, but I don't think she is ready to be VP of this country yet.

Posted by: hkim | September 4, 2008 3:25 PM | Report abuse

"Through his book, Obama has become the first potential presidential contender to admit trying cocaine" - Washington Post, 03 January 2007.

Posted by: Dave | September 4, 2008 3:24 PM | Report abuse


Nice-looking white woman who doesn't pose a real intellectual challenge to anyone defeating a smart black man is a fantasy that may stroke some serious inferiority complexes for sure.


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Men will vote for Sarah Palin in droves. She's now America's sweetheart!!

Posted by: Dave | September 4, 2008 2:44 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 3:24 PM | Report abuse

All I see here is attacks, attacks, attacks. We must be a buncha angry, out of touch liberal elitists because we're mad the Palin has now repeatedly LIED about the Bridge to Nowhere. Because we're mad she tried to have books banned as mayor, because she's engaged in multiple abuses of power like firing two different police heads for silly reasons. Because she takes extreme positions like opposing abortion even in cases of rape or incest.

Good luck selling that to independents. Most of them would like somebody who actually tells the truth when they campaign, thank you very much.

Posted by: John M. | September 4, 2008 3:23 PM | Report abuse

She didn't cut any spec ed budget. People have misunderstood. Some special-needs schools that were lumped into one item in the budget in past years were placed on two lines in the budget this year. Thus, if you add both lines, you get essentially the same funding from last year to this year.

Posted by: EricF | September 4, 2008 3:22 PM | Report abuse

So, it was bad for the Vietnamese to not respect John McCain's rights when he was a prisoner of war, but it is ok for the US to not respect the rights of our prisoners of war at Guantanomo? Does Ms. Palin believe that only Americans are entitled to be treated fairly?

Posted by: anonymous | September 4, 2008 3:22 PM | Report abuse

Hey Dave, it was a state school. Par for the course for you Repubs, LIE just like Palin LIED last night about the bridge to nowhere. Among other things.

Any undecided voter, have a good look at the AP article chronicling all the lies told last night. It makes some eye-opening reading.

Posted by: John M. | September 4, 2008 3:21 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin is not Democrats worst nightmare - it is 4 more years of an administration that has ruined many institutions of the federal government with partisanship. It is having a President and VP who support torture. It is trying to live with people for whom lies and coverups are the norm. It is most of all, having an administration that mocks our Constitution and ignores our laws.

Plagerism - is that the worst you can come up with? Tell that to the women and children of Darfur.

Posted by: MomInABQ | September 4, 2008 3:20 PM | Report abuse

Amanda and the rest of you bitter leftists: You've proven what I've known all along. You're no more liberal than Joseph Stalin and your views are basically the same as his. You can't handle the fact that you don't have a monopoly on women and blacks in politics. If they are conservative, then there must be something amiss. All these sexists attacks show your real colors. You all remind me of the Wicked Witch of the East when Dorothy accidentally spilled water on her. Screaching as she melted away. Sarah Palin has an 80% approval rating in her state. 'Splain that to me Lucy...

Posted by: EFH | September 4, 2008 3:20 PM | Report abuse

Just remember
- John McCain was a POW during Vietnam.
- John McCain is a maverick.
- John McCain was a POW during Vietnam.
- John McCain is a straight talker.
- John McCain was a POW during Vietnam.
- John McCain is a warrior.
- John McCain was a POW during Vietnam.

I think you got the point.

Posted by: Tuathe | September 4, 2008 3:20 PM | Report abuse

I am hoping that someone in the mainstream media, in a non-partisan and objective fashion, will challenge her misinformation and, taking a long hard look at her tone of ridicule and sarcasm, will differentiate these behaviors from leadership, statesmanship, and criteria for VP....
Posted by: PBK | September 4, 2008 3:14 PM

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There's already been an AP story that corrected many of the factual errors (read: lies) from her speech last night. I expect more will follow.

Posted by: GrouchoMarxist | September 4, 2008 3:19 PM | Report abuse

Did B. Hussein Obama memorize the Koran when he was studying in that madrassa? I want to hear him recite it. When is the Washington Post going to send a reporter to the madrassa to check it out? Is it a radical madrassa or a moderate madrassa?

Posted by: Dave | September 4, 2008 3:18 PM | Report abuse

Wonderful VP pick. More than a community organizer and a plagiarist blow hard. She is a breath of fresh air.

Posted by: Vince L | September 4, 2008 3:18 PM | Report abuse

BLOWOUT RATINGS FOR SARAH PALIN'S SPEECH

Sarah Palin's ratings: 37 million people tuned in to see Sarah Palin's speech last night, just under the number who tuned in to see Barack Obama's nomination speech.

And she didn't have to build a $6 million temple in a coliseum and fire off fireworks and have free rock groups.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 4, 2008 3:17 PM | Report abuse

From the vile viciousness of the Obamanuts assaults we know for sure Obama is going to tank in November.

Obamanuts please drink the Jim Jones Kool Aid when Obama tanks so the Democratic Party will not suffer your presence in 2012.

After Obama tanks, he can follow his true calling -- to become the greatest con man TV preacher of all times! He'll rake in more wealth than billionaie Pat robertson ever dreamed of doing in is wildest dreams!

Posted by: William | September 4, 2008 3:17 PM | Report abuse

Gov. Palin does not have a "strained beauty pageant smile". Her trouble is that she can't stop smiling, as the photographer for her official photo as Governor reported. I know this is hard for the sky is falling liberals to understand, but some people just like to smile, because whatever their problems, they can be happy, not bouncing off the walls with complaints about how the government isn't giving them enough handouts. Governor Palin delivered a brilliant speech, which, whatever the liberals want to say, was not short on substance. And the continuing attacks that she is just "Bush II" are frankly embarrassing at this point. Gov. Palin is about as far from the Ivy League spoiled rich kid Bush as can be. She is a great American, a potential hero to our people, and an fine example for my own daughter. Oh, and she is the first Candidate from either party that has talked about special needs children and their families. I hoped she would say something, but never expected something as clear as that she would be our friend and advocate in the White House. It is time for someone to speak out for those who cannot speak for themselves, those poor challenged children who receive substandard services, if any at all. We love you Sarah!

Posted by: Steven | September 4, 2008 3:17 PM | Report abuse

Now that we are running for office, let's start spewing the hatred at our opponents because this is what God would want us to do... what a bunch of hypocrites.

Posted by: an actual Christian | September 4, 2008 3:17 PM | Report abuse

Dave sez - "Once in a generation the world gets a gift like her"

True, the last time the world got a "gift like her" her name was Eva Braun.

Seig Heil! Seig Heil! Seig Heil! Frau Palin!

Posted by: Chris in Texas | September 4, 2008 3:17 PM | Report abuse

When GOP VP nominee, Sarah Palin, noted that "the difference between soccor
moms and pit bulls was lipstick"; it was powerful, entertaining and
educational. WHO KNEW?
Not, however; the first speech that she has made. The following link tells
the nation exactly why we are in Iraq according to Sarah Palin:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/03/AR2008090303102.html?hpid=sec-religion

I watch JSM Ministries, that's Jimmy Swaggert for those with short memories,
sandwiched between the Joyce Myers and Paula White ministries. Wonderful
man, carried the word to the down trodden prostitues on Canal Street in New
Orleans when no other preachers would go there. Practises the same
Penecostal religious beliefs that Sarah Palin practises. Filled with the
Holy Ghost, physical spasms, and speaks in unknown tongues.
Excellent speech last night! I understood every word she said and either she
was speaking English or she needs me when she talks to Vladimir Putin. I
don't think the Holy Ghost was in Minneapolis last night but I've watched
Jimmy for decades and I've never seen it. Can it be predicted?
WHO KNEW! The seperation between church and state has never been more
fragile.

GOP Presidential nominee, McCain has a beautiful, intelligent, articulate
lipstick wearing, soccor mom (read pit bull) for a running mate. We
desperately need change. Lets collectively hope that she doesn't turn out to
just be the lipstick on the pig that Republican Party politics sometimes
resembles!

THE COST WAS WAY TOO HIGH JOHN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: ZENWOLS | September 4, 2008 3:16 PM | Report abuse

Dave@3:03, be careful with the remarks about Obama's drug use (it was in high school, not college - get the facts right before you post), because Governor Palin has admitted to having smoke marijuana.

Posted by: @@@@ | September 4, 2008 3:15 PM | Report abuse

gibbon - last time I checked it's legal for citizens of the US to travel to any foreign country except Cuba and North Korea. Or did I miss something and Bush took that right away from us too?

Too bad Frau Palin never exercised that right.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 3:14 PM | Report abuse

"Cindy's Outfit? $300K. Elitism Charges? Priceless."

Posted by: JayBen | September 4, 2008 3:14 PM | Report abuse

I am hoping that someone in the mainstream media, in a non-partisan and objective fashion, will challenge her misinformation and, taking a long hard look at her tone of ridicule and sarcasm, will differentiate these behaviors from leadership, statesmanship, and criteria for VP. She was clever and entertaining in her tone, somewhat like a SNL skit, successfully trashing the character and achievements of her opponents. I think comedians do that for a laugh; she was presenting herself as a heartbeat away from the presidency! I think she took the country into the gutter and the press went with her.

Posted by: PBK | September 4, 2008 3:14 PM | Report abuse

I'm just giddy. Sarah Palin is the Democrat's worst nightmare come true. She's a natural leader who will rally her party to victory in November. Once in a generation the world gets a gift like her.

Posted by: Dave | September 4, 2008 3:13 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin makes me feel dirty. Her ability to deliver petty, baseless insults against a man that millions of people have vetted and already voted for, without even bothering try to offer a positive idea of her own was stunning and sickening, sure. Obviously, right?

But I have to admit, it's very sexy. If I were a woman I would be absolutely embarrassed and mortified by her dregrading presence on a presidential ticket, but as a man... wow, there is something about a very sexy, outrageously hypocritical, psycho-brand-christian woman dressed up like a cable TV newscaster and tossing out republican talking points that really gets to me. Of course I'm terrified at the possibility that she and the dirty old man who thought this was a good idea might be in charge of finishing off the country in too months- but yeah, I would. Know what I mean? Dirty, sexy, money...

Posted by: Steve | September 4, 2008 3:13 PM | Report abuse

Alex H. wrote:
Who do you want as VP?

Joe Biden. . . . A plagiarizer and a LIAR! As a politics-as-usual, 30+-year Washington parasite, Plagiarist-Joe never worked harder than in his efforts to kill bi-partisan legislation simply because it would have adversely affected the enormous income of his lobbyist son. Plagiarist-Joe is the poster-boy for all that is rotten with Washington. This choice further illustrates the incredibly bad judgment of the Chicago Cretin.

Sarah Palin. A true political reformer who has cleaned-up one of the most politically corrupt states in the nation and who has shown a solid and unwavering commitment to ethical government. Palin is the antithesis of Plagiarist-Joe.

Tough choice? ----NOT!

(For the genetically low-IQ supporters of hussein: sorry about using all these adult words. Just so you'll understand, "antithesis" means "opposite". Being a plagiarist is "bad" - not in sense of "good" but in the sense that going to jail for beating-up your old lady is "bad".)

Posted by: ALEX H. | September 4, 2008 2:27 PM

Geez, are you for real? Accusing political opponents of being such things as "low-IQ" supporters of Hussein, etc." is exactly the level of discussion that too many members of your party (and some, though fewer or mine) have sunk to. This is because they crave power so much that they easily delude themselves that they aren't surrendering principles in the process of exercising it, then rant against anyone who objects, however mildly or logically.

Also, have you read ANY of the stuff that is pouring out in the press about Sarah Palin's abuse of power issues (forget the pregnant daughter, that's not really an issue and Obama showed smarts and class by saying so very early on)? It is turning into a torrent. There is probably something to at least some of it, and it at least ought to make fairminded people think a little before throwing their arms around a candidate because the party they endorse has anointed her.

You toss off 30 years of public service from Biden as just being a parasite. Biden becomes a political hack and irredeemable sinner because he made a big mistake 20 years ago? Why don't you ask a few Delaware residents what they think of him? Most would say he has represented their interest pretty well, just as most Alaskans would say the same of Sarah Palin at the moment. By the way, she DID take the "bridge to nowhere" money and there is ample evidence to support her early support of this earmark. I

You think in a laughably simplistic line. One big barrier to having a serious, issue-based campaign is that there are so many of you that serious (or even civil) discussion of issues is becoming difficult. The politicians of both parties know that to get your vote, they are going to have to pander to your idiocy. Your sneering tone is too typical, and it hides a typical lack of measured thinking and substance. The more of you there are, the meaner and dumber our public discoure becomes. Palin's speech last night was full of this sneering, and I am hoping it will have quite the opposite effect that she and the McCain campaign leadership are hoping for.
Red meat for the base, sure. Not very appetizing for anyone else less blindly partisan.

My guess is you write off anything you don't want to be true to a pervasive liberal media conspiracy. You sound like you start with a conclusion you want to be true, then work backwards and reject and insult anything that does not fit your prejudices.

So . . . who's got a low IQ?

Posted by: mbfaust | September 4, 2008 3:12 PM | Report abuse

I am continually amazed at the vitriol that now seems to be inherent in the campaign process and on lists like this. People, please. We are ALL Americans first; can't we have an election without stereotyping and demonizing each other?

I guess I'm too much of an optimist. I guess that's why I'll be voting for Obama/Biden.

Posted by: Lu in FL | September 4, 2008 3:11 PM | Report abuse

I feel Palin sold her soul, after Obama took a stand for her family, she allowed herself to be used as a pitbull. It was obvious that they were willing to use the baby as a means for sympathy. She represents the new American Woman? Where was the class? She still has to walk the walk.

Posted by: Jason | September 4, 2008 3:11 PM | Report abuse


Are all Obamanuts as stupid as shiv?

The cheapest way to get natural gas from Alaska to the lower 48 is a pipeline through Canada.

I'll also bet you do not know that that method is not the most popular with Alaskans who wanted an All Alaska Natural Gas pipeline to follow the route of the oil pipeline to Valdez on the Gulf of Alaska. From there it would be shipped as liquified natural gas in LNG tankers to pipeline connections on the west cost of the USA.

I know for Obamanuts and Cult of Obama members that ignorance is bliss.

Posted by: William | September 4, 2008 3:11 PM | Report abuse

Anne Kilkenny-Please submit this to the editorials of the major newspapers throughout the country. I'm sure more people would like to know what Palin is really like.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 3:11 PM | Report abuse

Monty Haynes wrote: "I had been a Boston resident but now I live in London. The view from Europe is exasperation that someone with such limited world view would be a candidate for vice president.

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Hmmm, this London paper seems to have a different view:

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/columnists/fergus_shanahan/article1647092.ece

Posted by: Election08 | September 4, 2008 3:10 PM | Report abuse

The Republicans are scrubbing the web of Palin's past - her minister's talk that he cannot vouch for the salvation of someone who votes for Kerry, etc., her pictures as governor, old speeches, etc. The only way they can establish their brand is to wipe out her record. No speech can cover for the lack of experience we see here and any Republican who has not drunk the kool-aide knows this. McCain had plenty of well-educated, powerful women to choose from - but he likes them cute, and that's where the sexism is. Heather Wilson should have been up there - or Christine Whitman - or many of the women who spoke who were captains of industry. We have a complex set of issues before us. Cheney and Rove are trying to whip up a storm with Russia. We need experienced, settled people with good judgement to lead us. Obama is only divisive if you cannot hear the words from his mouth, cannot stop listening to hate radio, and lack the ability to think about the reality of this situation. Holy cow, it is incredible that the Republicans are trying to say they weren't around for the scandals, the overspending - what is this tax and spend liberal stuff - it's the Republicans who spend us into oblivian and don't raise taxes on the rich so all the middle class can pay long-term for their follies. Noun/verb/POW - that's all I heard. There are people who need help and all I hear is that it's all about Palin and McCain's personal narrative. Put that in your gas tank.

Posted by: MomInABQ | September 4, 2008 3:10 PM | Report abuse

Since "vetting" is suddenly so important to the media. Can somebody explain to me why Obama chose, of all counties, to visit Pakistan for three weeks when he was in his twenties along with his two Islamic friends? I didn't find out about this until very recently...

Posted by: gibbon | September 4, 2008 3:09 PM | Report abuse

Palin's speech was like "Sarah, the Insult Comic Pit Bull." But what really grishered my kishkas was that she had the effrontery--as a virtual newcomer to national politics--to ridicule established and respected politicians who, unlike her, HAVE paid their dues. If she'd shown a little newbie humility, I would have found her just barely tolerable. But that strained beauty-pageant smile and preening hockey mom stance--compounded with her total hubris--had me throwing my dog's toys at the TV.

She'd be a joke, if she wasn't so scary ...

Posted by: Fetchcat | September 4, 2008 3:08 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin's husband is the luckiest man in the world.

Posted by: Dave | September 4, 2008 3:08 PM | Report abuse

She's just a standard Republican spewing Karl Rove applause lines. I must have missed the parts where she talked about anything of substance.

All McCain did was add a Bible thumper to the ticket. That won't help him this year.

And you Republicans don't even take elections seriously anymore. All you care about is a superficial candidate. She's young, looks good, and can read a speech. This is precisely what you've been criticizing Obama for all year. Hypocrites.

Posted by: BB | September 4, 2008 3:07 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Monty Haynes | September 4, 2008 2:27 PM wrote: "I had been a Boston resident but now I live in London. The view from Europe is exasperation that someone with such limited world view would be a candidate for vice president. She's probably not a bad person to be governor of Alaska but thrusted onto the world stage, she would probably be hard pressed to name the leaders of France, Spain and the United Kingdom..., and those are the easy ones."


Hey Monty, how about someone being PRESIDENT "with such limited world view". Good grief, are you kidding me?

Posted by: dc -ind | September 4, 2008 3:07 PM | Report abuse

"I like when she talked about being a pitbull with lipstick."

Some of my best friends are pit bulls, and I found her remark a complete turn-off. In fact, a dog would make a better vice president than she would.

Under Rove's tutelage, Republicans have come to the point where they think that shouting insults is a valuable skill in a leader. They sure haven't got much else going. I love the loons who keep going on about "evisceration." Yes, she does a very good impression of the toothed vagina. It turns those Republican masochists on, really lights up their noses.

Sarah Palin was a secessionist. She views the lower 48 states as a cash cow. She is no patriot.

Posted by: fzdybel | September 4, 2008 3:07 PM | Report abuse

I enjoy a good fight, but this was ridiculous. And it was all Democratic party's fault.

Posted by: pete | September 4, 2008 3:07 PM | Report abuse

Hockey? This is America, people.

Posted by: Oh Canada! | September 4, 2008 3:06 PM | Report abuse

Condi Rice, Nancy Pelosi, Hillary Clinton, and Cheerleader Palin? Come on, People of this great nation. Folksy? Yes! Engaging? Yes! Shallow? Without a doubt! Where was the substance? Hello kids, hubby, mom & dad, presumptive son-in-law and small town America! And????? Now that she's running with the Big Dogs, I hope they treat her just as they would any other candidate. Maybe she can get the state's plan off of Ebay to go back home when the election's over.

Posted by: OhWell | September 4, 2008 3:05 PM | Report abuse

What exactly is a "community organizer" anyway? Who pays your salary when you are a "community organizer?" Is this an elected position? What if some people in the community don't follow the directives of the "community organizer?"

Posted by: Dave | September 4, 2008 3:04 PM | Report abuse

After the previous screeds of Mitt, Mike, Rudy and Fred it looks like they saved the best whine for later -- by the time Palin started so much so that it was all vinegar. Mister Scully sure has a way with words, but lacks what used to be called Irish diplomacy which is telling someone to go to hell in such a fashion that they look forward to the trip.

Posted by: ejgallagher1 | September 4, 2008 3:03 PM | Report abuse

I hope so

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Do you think Michelle Shaniqua Obama will try to institute that fake ghetto holiday Kwanza if she gets to the White House?

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Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 3:03 PM | Report abuse

It is now clear that the Obama campaign is way too divisive. The only way to bring the country together is to put McCain/Palin in charge. Obama should concede now for the good of the country.

Posted by: Dave | September 4, 2008 2:54 PM

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If we wish hard enough, it'll come true.

If we wish hard enough, it'll come true.

If we wish hard enough, it'll come true.

If we wish hard enough, it'll come true.

If we wish hard enough, it'll come true.

If we wish hard enough, it'll come true.

Posted by: another clueless neocon | September 4, 2008 3:03 PM | Report abuse

Cry Obamanuts cry! Stick your fingers in your eyes and cry Obamanuts cry!

Obama reached his high point a week ago, and it is all downhill from here for him.

Obama and his nutties are finding out the truth of Lincolns words: "... you cannot fool all the people all the time..."

Obama the surpreme con-man of the last 100 years sold his snake oil and pied pipered his kiddy corps into thugging the nomination for him, but they cannot thug his way into the Whitehouse for him.

So cry Obamanuts cry! We will have a Republican president because you and the media chauvins for Obama trashed Hillary and stold the nomination for Obama, so cry Obamanuts and media chauvins for Obama because you're going to get McCain elected president instead of Hillary!

Posted by: William | September 4, 2008 3:03 PM | Report abuse

We need to seriously examine the candidate vetting process - on the Democratic side. How did a "community organizer" who snorted cocaine in college get the top slot? This shows a huge failure in judgment.

Posted by: Dave | September 4, 2008 3:03 PM | Report abuse

Shiv

"At a minimum she has delivered on a few things she promised, ...pipeline project for Natural gas"

Did anyone notice that she claimed that this gas pipeline to CANADA would decrease our dependence of foreign energy? Does she not know that CANADA is a foreign country? She may be near Russia but her state shares a common border with CANADA. No wonder Canadians are fed up with us. Frau Palin must be a product of Bush's no "child left behind" program.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 3:02 PM | Report abuse

You are delusional but you were their audience. Have you noticed over night polling have Obama moving ahead since the pick on Palin. He cracked the 50% mark for the first time since her pick and will probably never look back. By the way, if you like her so much you should learn to spell her name. Another clue you are their target audience.

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This 44 Years old beauty queen Sarah Pelin has electrifies republican party last night at RNC in Minnesota. She will wooed all women voters to her side.

I don't think Sen. Obama has any chance left of winning election in November. If he would have choosing Sen. Hillary Clinton as his running mate, then the story would have been different for him.!!!!

Posted by: AKBER A. KASSAM. | September 4, 2008 2:54 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 3:02 PM | Report abuse

Do you think Michelle Shaniqua Obama will try to institute that fake ghetto holiday Kwanza if she gets to the White House?

Posted by: Dianne72 | September 4, 2008 3:02 PM | Report abuse

Karl Rove is the devil. Obama should hire Jon Stewart as a special advisor. He absolutely destroyed these fools last night. Can't wait to see what he does with this piece of Alaskan Log Cabin Trash. Did anyone notice the buttons declaring Palin's "hottness" and then they have the nerve to accuse the liberals of being offensive to women when her experience is questioned. The sad thing is that middle America is just stupid enough to but into it. I'm looking at you Ohio and Florida. Please don't do it to us again. How can McCain lift the country when he can't even lift his arms?

Posted by: Eric | September 4, 2008 3:01 PM | Report abuse

Yawn. What did she really say? Nothing. All the repubs do is attack and don't even speak about the issues. It's become a circus.

Posted by: Mitch | September 4, 2008 3:01 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin came off as a total A-hole.

Sarcasm without substance.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 3:01 PM | Report abuse

Just thought I'd remind you all that you are not choosing American Idol or Pope. You are choosing the next LEADER of what USED TO BE the finest country on earth.

G.Bush has managed to put that office a breath away from a dictatorship to where our Olympic team cannot wear their colors while traveling, we are OWNED by China, and republicans show absolutely zero intelligence.

The two party system is crap and these candidates are crap. They will decide your fates. Good Grief. wake up. Demand a man or woman of substance. Except every step of this "election" is choreographed in advance by the 2 party system.

Posted by: GOP going down in flames!! | September 4, 2008 3:01 PM | Report abuse

OMG! I just heard that Michelle Shaniqua Obama's (Miss Freedom Fro 1976) "white-gate" tape is going to be released a month early! I can't wait!
Posted by: Dianne72 | September 4, 2008 2:58 PM

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OMG! I just heard that if John McCain wins in November, he's going to give everyone in America a pony! I can't wait!

Posted by: GrouchoMarxist | September 4, 2008 3:01 PM | Report abuse

The Republican ticket: a war hero and a stunningly smart female governor. The Democratic ticket: A former "community organizer" who snorted cocaine in college and a draft-dodging plagiarizer.

Posted by: Dave | September 4, 2008 3:00 PM | Report abuse

Obama is a Socialist. Perhaps he should run for office in Europe with all his talk of redistribution of wealth.

Posted by: Billary | September 4, 2008 2:59 PM | Report abuse

Men will vote for Sarah Palin in droves. She's now America's sweetheart!!

Posted by: Dave | September 4, 2008 2:44 PM

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If we keep saying it, it will come true. If we keep saying it, it will come true.
If we keep saying it, it will come true.
If we keep saying it, it will come true.
If we keep saying it, it will come true.
If we keep saying it, it will come true.

Posted by: another clueless neocon | September 4, 2008 2:58 PM | Report abuse

Dear Anonywank
just because you are too afraid to leave a name, even a made up one, do not pre-determine that you understand my motives or intent. I actually like Sarah, I was responding to Asper girl. If you are Asper girl, you may take offense. the lips I was talking about have been attached to the dems, which you would get if you actually realized what I was talking about. However, it is obvious that you don't so-"bite me". As for other comments, usually I have your mother do it for me, when she isn't sucking down some jack and taking hits off her crack pipe

Posted by: Don | September 4, 2008 2:58 PM | Report abuse

OMG! I just heard that Michelle Shaniqua Obama's (Miss Freedom Fro 1976) "white-gate" tape is going to be released a month early! I can't wait!


Posted by: Dianne72 | September 4, 2008 2:58 PM | Report abuse

It was like watching a pitbull tearing up her opponent...the chihauhau, kind of cruelsome. Isn't it?

Posted by: pete | September 4, 2008 2:58 PM | Report abuse

wow what 24 hrs can do

everyone suddenly waking up and realizing...she didn't actually SAY ANYTHING.

and all the scandals didn't go away with a speech (although trying to suppress the witness yesterday was a good start...worked for Cheney...might work for them).

Posted by: dl | September 4, 2008 2:57 PM | Report abuse

OMG! I just heard that Michelle Shaniqua Obama's (Miss Freedom Fro 1976) "white-gate" tape is going to be released a month early! I can't wait!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 2:57 PM | Report abuse

I used to be a Democrat, but after last night's speech I'm changing my party affiliation and voting for McCain/Palin.

Posted by: Dave | September 4, 2008 2:57 PM | Report abuse

How is being a "hockey mom" connecting with the average family? Last I checked, hockey is quite an expensive sport to take part in...

Posted by: gnote | September 4, 2008 2:54 PM | Report abuse

It is now clear that the Obama campaign is way too divisive. The only way to bring the country together is to put McCain/Palin in charge. Obama should concede now for the good of the country.

Posted by: Dave | September 4, 2008 2:54 PM | Report abuse

Remember those pretty blond German girls in the 1930s?

Sarah Pallin is a fascist.

:-)

Posted by: toritto | September 4, 2008 2:54 PM | Report abuse

This 44 Years old beauty queen Sarah Pelin has electrifies republican party last night at RNC in Minnesota. She will wooed all women voters to her side.

I don't think Sen. Obama has any chance left of winning election in November. If he would have choosing Sen. Hillary Clinton as his running mate, then the story would have been different for him.!!!!

Posted by: AKBER A. KASSAM. | September 4, 2008 2:54 PM | Report abuse

Why isn't Palin's newborn son a family matter? Why does she want to speak about his condition and become an advocate for special needs children, and not speak about or have a solution for her older child with child? And why do they want to get married now, if the teens love each other so much why are they expecting before they marry? To me this sets women back 100 years, the women who had to fight for the right to vote would not be happy with this, this is not the right image for our women or our daughter's to have in this country. There is shame that's why they are now talking marriage. If it's okay why even speak of marriage after the fact? I don't know any mother who would want to put a spotlight on this situation. If this is private don't put yourself in the spotlight with this situation. This was just a way to follow the lead of Hillary Clinton, Palin is not a choice for country first it was a choice of politics which casts a bad reflection rather than making history for all the women who fought for the right to vote. 'Wrong Choice' at the 'Wrong Time' bad move McCain

Posted by: tonia828 | September 4, 2008 2:53 PM | Report abuse

I guess you haven't checked the polls.

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Jesse Jackson had to go to the hospital today with major stomach pains. Sarah Palin has the left-wingers in knots!! I bet Joe Biden wasn't able to sleep last night. Someone needs to deliver a truckload of Maalox to Obama campaign HQS. Maybe even some adult diapers.

Posted by: Dave | September 4, 2008 2:51 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 2:52 PM | Report abuse

Obama in his own words: "Pot had helped, and booze; maybe a little blow when you could afford it. Not smack, though," he says. Citation - Washington Post, 03 Jan 2007.

So my questions are 1) How much cocaine did Obama snort? 2) How much money did he pay for the cocaine? 3) Did he snort all the cocaine himself, or did he sell the rest? 4) Who did he buy the cocaine from?

Posted by: Dave | September 4, 2008 2:52 PM | Report abuse

MY RESPONSE TO POST BY: Don | September 4, 2008 2:12 PM

DON WROTE:

Dear Ass-per Grrl

Your comments are as tired and old as the rest of the Dem RHEOTORIC being spewed here. I would ask you to KISS ME WHERE I PEE, but considering where your lips have been SURGICALLY ATTACHED for the past 8 years, I am afraid of the STD’S

Posted by: Don | September 4, 2008 2:12 PM
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Don -- Doesn't your mother do that for you? And talk about someone's lips being "SURGICALLY ATTACHED for the past 8 years?"

They don't call it Bush for nothing.

Stop picking on the ladies, Don.

Join the military...or...did you get a deferment?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 2:51 PM | Report abuse

shiv

you are on really weak ice with calling Obama unaccomplished...lol

trying to belittle the freakin Harvard law review is stupid... trying to make out that her accomplicshm,ents were substantial in a state that was already being called for the corruption...

oy

and have you been on the planet for the last year?

I don't know if you have noticed the support and movement of a predominance of the American people to do something in numbers they have not in a long long time.

that is called accomplishing something...

not overseeing a state that has little risk with it's governemtn subsidies and oil revenues that's legislature only meets for 90 days out of the year...

and whose record is within three days showing huge huge cracks and gaps and cover ups...

seems she "reformed" the state into her own little power form.

yeah we had 8 years of that...done with that.

and maybe she can accomplish one thing...

like answer a single question or a single answer to a problem...

rather than 2 speeches written by someone else and a clamp down on access to the speeches she gave before.

maybe...I have an idea...an interview...you know I know it''s a lot to ask but considering Obama and Biden deftly answer questions and follow up after follow up...

maybe she could try it all on her own...

or does she have to graduate from "30 second sounbites to rule the world" course they have her on.

Posted by: dl | September 4, 2008 2:51 PM | Report abuse

Jesse Jackson had to go to the hospital today with major stomach pains. Sarah Palin has the left-wingers in knots!! I bet Joe Biden wasn't able to sleep last night. Someone needs to deliver a truckload of Maalox to Obama campaign HQS. Maybe even some adult diapers.

Posted by: Dave | September 4, 2008 2:51 PM | Report abuse

Obama believes what he is saying, he is not a stooge. He writes the speech.

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She delivered the speech THAT OTHERS HAD WRITTEN (the same as Obama) with gusto. I don't agree with her positions, however, and I thought the writing was very disjointed and not very coherent.

Posted by: Columbia, MD | September 4, 2008 2:47 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse

The new pretty face of Republican hate. Mainstream media; stop patting her on the head for reading the speech she practiced for three days, go back to investigating, reporting, investigating. You're the last line of defense between the future and returning us to 1930s Germany.

Posted by: JayBen | September 4, 2008 2:48 PM | Report abuse

I think the correct term for her is jeerleader and the squad included Fred, Rudy, Mitt and Mike. The speech wasn't no mean task, it was just a mean one. Maybe she can star in the next remake of I01 Dalmatians as Cruella DeVil.

Posted by: ejgallagher1 | September 4, 2008 2:48 PM | Report abuse

VPILF
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Men will vote for Sarah Palin in droves. She's now America's sweetheart!!

Posted by: Dave | September 4, 2008 2:44 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 2:47 PM | Report abuse

She delivered the speech THAT OTHERS HAD WRITTEN (the same as Obama) with gusto. I don't agree with her positions, however, and I thought the writing was very disjointed and not very coherent.

Posted by: Columbia, MD | September 4, 2008 2:47 PM | Report abuse

Palin is an insult to women everywhere. Her condescending, snide remarks doesn't tell me she is fit to be VP. Not allowing terroists to be read their rights? Looking down on community organizers? Banning books from libraries? Please tell me this is NOT the best we've got!

Not only that, no way can she tell me she is such a good mother and cares about her family. She is exploiting them- From the baby to the husband! A good mother doesn't allow their newborn son to be up after 10pm being passed around like a Hollywood prop. Shouldn't that baby have been in bed?- Why didn't the father take the child to the back or at least bring the child "offstage". They show poor parenting and it's proven with their pregnant daughter sitting there holding hands with her boyfriend.

Change the scene to a black family?- We would have been called the lowest of low.

Iman Stamford, CT

Posted by: Iman | September 4, 2008 2:47 PM | Report abuse

Tina Fey + Angelina Jolie + Grandpa = victory

It's not that complicated folks...

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Uh.....Erin. I hate to tell you this, but the last eight years were the real republicans. Just like McCain/Palin.

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The sheer amount of cognitive dissonance required to get them through a single day must simply be staggering, huh?

Posted by: GrouchoMarxist | September 4, 2008 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Senator Barry Hussein's (aka Senator Purple Lips) star is beginning to fade. I am laughing at how scared the Dems are of an electrified Republican Convention compliments of Gov. Palin. LOL!

Posted by: Nadeem Zakaria | September 4, 2008 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Palin has made Biden looks like a mauled French poodle.

Posted by: pete | September 4, 2008 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Political stooge who will say what ever they put in her mouth. She doesn't know it yet though . She thinks she was picked as the VP.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 2:45 PM | Report abuse

She looked like somebody who would breath life into the republican party. Unfortunately, even though she looked really beautiful, what came out of her mouth was pure hatred.

To look down on a community organizer is mean. Pure and simple. A community organizer's job is a very important job. Ask Mitt Romney when he organized the Olympics. He was an Olympic Community Organizer.

To compare a community organizer of a city with a million people with a mayor of a town of 6000 people is like comparing professional hockey with little league hockey.

I hope tonight McCain can put some meat to that bone that he is always gnawing. Is he a maverick or is he a puppet on a very short string?

Posted by: Pal in comparison | September 4, 2008 2:45 PM | Report abuse

Men will vote for Sarah Palin in droves. She's now America's sweetheart!!

Posted by: Dave | September 4, 2008 2:44 PM | Report abuse

Labor numbers came out today. The stock market is down. How does parading out this small timer like Palin solve our problems in this country. For those of you in the Republistank party who are wondering what the labor numbers mean...it means there are no new jobs and unemployment is up. Your new star cannot address these problems. Funny how this speech eradicates the fact that she was not properly vetted. Her family does not give new jobs or fix roads or help with health care. Unfortunately for us all, you are the same fools who gave us GWB twice.

Posted by: motherfather | September 4, 2008 2:43 PM | Report abuse

It appears that McCain is smarter than we all thought - given the "freakout factor" from the Left since last night's speech, McCain's pick of Palin was a stroke of genius. The Dems went from being completely assured they would win this thing, to realizing that it's actually a race for the White House in November. This is getting pretty darn exciting!

Posted by: ObamaClinton | September 4, 2008 2:43 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin ROCKS!
This is going to be a GREAT presidency!
Except THIS time, with a REAL republican!
8 more years!!!!!
8 more years!!!!!
8 more years!!!!!
8 more years!!!!!

Posted by: Erin! | September 4, 2008 1:21 AM
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Uh.....Erin. I hate to tell you this, but the last eight years were the real republicans. Just like McCain/Palin.

Posted by: Dahagg | September 4, 2008 2:43 PM | Report abuse

Bakker -

It's hard to be east of the mason-dixon - did you mean south???

I'm glad you're not voting based on this basic geographic miss.

Posted by: KirstyCat | September 4, 2008 2:41 PM | Report abuse

anonymous atv 2:30

my best friend from high school sits on our town board and I was President of the residential student body of a college with 20,000 students...

can I be VP...

I have flown by Russia ...

I know that's not like having my state next to russia...but location location location

c'mon...
did you copy that post from your yearbook...

this is the position that on september 11 after Bush took office had Cheney asking for permission to make decisions on identifying and shooting down commercial airliners with Americans on them.

McCain chooses "your high school friend" Palin?!!! as the person in that position...yet they won't have her answer any questions on her own...she has no record of understanding the issues we face overseas...very detailed intricate issues that Obama and Biden and McCain for the past year and a half have had to prove they understand from inside to out...

she on the other hand asks "what exactly does the Vice President do during the day?"

and SHE is going to deal with constitutional separation of powers!!!???!

she has said nothing for answers...nothing for solutions... nothing but hype and words written by someone else.

Republicans said KAINE the Governor of Virginia was not experienced enough...

BUT PALIN who just got a passport does?

and NO mayor of a small town does not compare in any way shape or form to being President of the united Srtates.

In fact as has been reported numerous times today Alaska is the least state governorship that has any challenges similar to the POTUS. They are kept afloat for decades by the oil industry and federal governemtn subsidies...with the least risky or diversified economy...

this woman is so far out of the left field of having any idea what the answers are to the problems that face us...it is not only funny ...

but scary.

Posted by: dl | September 4, 2008 2:41 PM | Report abuse

In truth, nothing new in this speech. For a maverick reformer, or whatever, she played right out of Rove's book. Get up, tell a bunch of lies, misrepresent your opponent's record and positions -- and your own, as well. Play on the idiots' fears, tell the sheep what they want to hear, collect your check, take it to the bank.

Same old Republican BS. Do they honestly think that after 8 years of this garbage anyone but the most die-hard Kool Aide drinkers can't see through it?

Posted by: GrouchoMarxist | September 4, 2008 2:40 PM | Report abuse

Nasty, sarcastic, mocking speech. Palin still tried to ban books at Wasilla's library, still fired someone for not firing her ex-brother-in-law, still kept money for the bridge to nowhere that the people of Alaska wanted to go to New Orleans after Katrina, still cut funding for special needs children, still cut funding for programs for unwed mothers, still opposes abortion even in cases of rape, incest or where the mother's life is in danger, still has dairy-gate to explain, still left Wasilla with a 20 million dollar deficit (it had a balanced budget when she first took office), still ran a 527 for Ted Stevens, still advocates teaching absinence only...oh, yeah and still thinks that God wanted us to invade Iraq.

Posted by: sueb2 | September 4, 2008 2:40 PM | Report abuse

It made me sad, because although I'm a Democrat, I used to sort of like McCain. Now he's just playing the game like all the others. So much for Country First.

As for Palin, all I learned was she can read a snide speech off the Teleprompter as well as anyone. But what about policy? Or goals? Or what she wants us to do, together, as Americans? All I heard was the ghost of Karl Rove. What a disappointment.

Posted by: Katherine Richards | September 4, 2008 2:39 PM | Report abuse

I will not vote for a ticket with a pit bull with lipstick in November; I will not vote for, as the Republican Delegate campaign buttons say: a "Hottie on the Hill" and "Hot Chick" in November; I will not vote for Geezer and Gidget in 2008.

Posted by: Karen | September 4, 2008 2:39 PM | Report abuse

She did well. I am sure the aim was to energize the crowd and she did that! She will have her appeal. She seemed a little too feisty...watch that temperment missy.

On a more srious note, it will take more than a "Hockey Grandmom" to to change my views after looking at these videos:

How can I vote for McCain after seeing this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioy90nF2anI

And this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEtZlR3zp4c&feature=related

I am convinced McCain is not in his right mind - 90% of the time.

Posted by: Anderson | September 4, 2008 2:38 PM | Report abuse

Why is everyone so fired up becausae she's a hockey mom... this isn't Canada... we don't even like hockey

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 2:38 PM | Report abuse

you know what? Dems are two faced morons.
It wasn't ok to bash Hilary, so therefore it is NOT ok to punch up Palin, no matter how much you claim to abhor the "Judeo-White male military industrial regime". At best you are a whining bunch of hypocritical slandering tools, who dabble in psycho-babble because you don't like the chance that Republicans could win. I am SO GLAD that I am not voting this election, because both candidates are fools, and their supporters are drooling, knuckle dragging goons who wouldn't know a decent politician if it bit them on the ass. This campaign needed real leaders, and real people, not Muppets and groupies.
That being said, everyone east of the Mason -Dixon line should just STFU, because the "bitter tears" being wept here by the left should just about destroy N'awlins levees once and for all.
What a waste of column inches. what a travesty.

Posted by: Bakker | September 4, 2008 2:35 PM | Report abuse

Well, those of you who are bots let loose from the Obama camp, her questions on Obama's leadership/accomplishments remain unanswered. At a minimum she has delivered on a few things she promised, as Mayor and Governor, including the ethics reform law, pipeline project for Natural gas and she is only running for vice president. Obama who is running to be president to run the govt, is yet to show what his achievements are.
1) What leadership has Obama displayed in his time in Harvard Law Review (0 articles published as the editor of the publication) 2) what significant legal cases/arguments did he pursue as parnet in the chicago law firm (answer: nothing of any legal significance or leadership)
3) As a senior lecturer again he remains unaccomplished with nary a scholarly article on legal theory or practice. 4) As an Illinois senator what issues he advocated consistently and led the dem caucus on? None. Sure he has 100 co-sponsorships like all other politicians worth their salt. That is no leadership. Not a significant law to his name thus far. 5) In the US senate, he has barely had time to run for the presidency let alone lead any effort to do anything. He has given plenty of speeches in his 14 or so years of public life and yet to achieve anything in terms of leadership. He has the gall to criticize palin's resume while his resume is thinner than hers as a presidential candidate, let alone for the vice presidency.

Posted by: Shiv | September 4, 2008 2:35 PM | Report abuse

Political stooge who doesn't know any better. Will say what ever they put in her mouth. She doesn't know it yet though . She thinks she was picked as the VP.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 2:33 PM | Report abuse

She read the lines well during the speech, in terms of attacking the opposition. To a Democrat, it seemed like she was sneering at and dismissing people who aren't die-hard Republicans. I think the real test is when she has to face interviews and debates and answer in her own words instead of reading attack lines prepared by Republican speechwriters.

Posted by: John C | September 4, 2008 2:33 PM | Report abuse

I never, EVER, thought I would say this, but this Republican is voting Dem this year. Last night was my most embarrassing moment as a member of this party. Where is our plan for fixing the economy? Iraq? anything? Name calling plays well to the far right, but regular Americans are really turned off by it. She lied several times, and disgracefully trashed their opponents with school yard chants. Have we learned nothing? Why the need to trash church groups and other community organizations? How dumb was that? Trashing people who dedicate their time and energy to helping their fellow man? I thought we were Christians!!!!!!!!

Posted by: mike | September 4, 2008 2:32 PM | Report abuse

was she a cheerleader?

I think she was a cheerleader....because that speech was a great cheer.

and if you take away the great zingers, the factual inconsistencies and the made uyp stuff...

you have...uh...

silence.

when do we see her answer something.

and not try to compare Barack's jr high english class paper with her speech and then from that say "look I'm more experienced than him...see."

oy

the worst VP choice in the history of our country.

what is she going to say when something like 9/11 happens and like Cheney she is in the White House asking for permission to make a judgement on shooting down a commercial airliner...

"I can shoot down a plane...I understand hunting and being a hockey mom...and a small town mayor..."

this woman does not have and has not shown like anyone else involved with these past 2 years ...an understanding or detailed comprehension of ANY of the issues that Obama and Biden have detailed as our biggest issues facing us.

sad McCain

I guess they didn't have time to reprint those banners..."campaign First"

Posted by: dlthe worst | September 4, 2008 2:30 PM | Report abuse

>> ABOUT SARAH PALIN
>>
>> I am a resident of Wasilla, Alaska. I have known Sarah since 1992.
>> Everyone here knows Sarah, so it is nothing special to say we are
>> on a
>> first-name basis. Our children have attended the same schools. Her
>> father was my child's favorite substitute teacher. I also am on a
>> first name basis with her parents and mother-in-law. I attended more
>> City Council meetings during her administration than about 99% of the
>> residents of the city.
>>
>> She is enormously popular; in every way she's like the most popular
>> girl in middle school. Even men who think she is a poor choice and
>> won't vote for her can't quit smiling when talking about her because
>> she is a "babe".
>>
>> It is astonishing and almost scary how well she can keep a
>> secret. She
>> kept her most recent pregnancy a secret from her children and parents
>> for seven months.
>>
>> She is "pro-life". She recently gave birth to a Down's syndrome
>> baby.
>> There is no cover-up involved, here; Trig is her baby.
>>
>> She is energetic and hardworking. She regularly worked out at
>> the gym.
>>
>> She is savvy. She doesn't take positions; she just "puts things out
>> there" and if they prove to be popular, then she takes credit.
>>
>> Her husband works a union job on the North Slope for BP and is a
>> champion snowmobile racer. Todd Palin's kind of job is highly
>> sought-after because of the schedule and high pay. He arranges his
>> work schedule so he can fish for salmon in Bristol Bay for a month or
>> so in summer, but by no stretch of the imagination is fishing their
>> major source of income. Nor has her life-style ever been anything
>> like that of native Alaskans.
>>
>> Sarah and her whole family are avid hunters.
>>
>> She's smart.
>>
>> Her experience is as mayor of a city with a population of about 5,000
>> (at the time), and less than 2 years as governor of a state with
>> about
>> 670,000 residents.
>>
>> During her mayoral administration most of the actual work of running
>> this small city was turned over to an administrator. She had been
>> pushed to hire this administrator by party power-brokers after
>> she had
>> gotten herself into some trouble over precipitous firings which had
>> given rise to a recall campaign.
>>
>> Sarah campaigned in Wasilla as a "fiscal conservative". During her 6
>> years as Mayor, she increased general government expenditures by over
>> 33%. During those same 6 years the amount of taxes collected by the
>> City increased by 38%. This was during a period of low inflation
>> (1996-2002). She reduced progressive property taxes and
>> increased a
>> regressive sales tax which taxed even food. The tax cuts that she
>> promoted benefited large corporate property owners way more than they
>> benefited residents.
>>
>> The huge increases in tax revenues during her mayoral administration
>> weren't enough to fund everything on her wish list though, borrowed
>> money was needed, too. She inherited a city with zero debt, but
>> left it
>> with indebtedness of over $22 million. What did Mayor Palin encourage
>> the voters to borrow money for? Was it the infrastructure that
>> she said
>> she supported? The sewage treatment plant that the city lacked? or a
>> new library? No. $1m for a park. $15m-plus for construction of a
>> multi-use sports complex which she rushed through to build on a piece
>> of property that the City didn't even have clear title to, that was
>> still in litigation 7 yrs later--to the delight of the lawyers
>> involved! The sports complex itself is a nice addition to the
>> community but a huge money pit, not the profit-generator she
>> claimed it
>> would be. She also supported bonds for $5.5m for road projects that
>> could have been done in 5-7 yrs without any borrowing.
>>
>> While Mayor, City Hall was extensively remodeled and her office
>> redecorated more than once.
>>
>> These are small numbers, but Wasilla is a very small city.
>>
>> As an oil producer, the high price of oil has created a budget
>> surplus
>> in Alaska. Rather than invest this surplus in technology that will
>> make us energy independent and increase efficiency, as Governor she
>> proposed distribution of this surplus to every individual in the
>> state.
>>
>> In this time of record state revenues and budget surpluses, she
>> recommended that the state borrow/bond for road projects, even while
>> she proposed distribution of surplus state revenues: spend today's
>> surplus, borrow for needs.
>>
>> She's not very tolerant of divergent opinions or open to outside
>> ideas
>> or compromise. As Mayor, she fought ideas that weren't generated by
>> her or her staff. Ideas weren't evaluated on their merits, but
>> on the
>> basis of who proposed them.
>>
>> While Sarah was Mayor of Wasilla she tried to fire our highly
>> respected
>> City Librarian because the Librarian refused to consider removing
>> from
>> the library some books that Sarah wanted removed. City residents
>> rallied to the defense of the City Librarian and against Palin's
>> attempt at out-and-out censorship, so Palin backed down and withdrew
>> her termination letter. People who fought her attempt to oust the
>> Librarian are on her enemies list to this day.
>>
>> Sarah complained about the "old boy's club" when she first ran for
>> Mayor, so what did she bring Wasilla? A new set of "old boys".
>> Palin
>> fired most of the experienced staff she inherited. At the City
>> and as
>> Governor she hired or elevated new, inexperienced, obscure people,
>> creating a staff totally dependent on her for their jobs and
>> eternally
>> grateful and fiercely loyal--loyal to the point of abusing their
>> power
>> to further her personal agenda, as she has acknowledged happened
>> in the
>> case of pressuring the State's top cop (see below).
>>
>> As Mayor, Sarah fired Wasilla's Police Chief because he "intimidated"
>> her, she told the press. As Governor, her recent firing of
>> Alaska's top
>> cop has the ring of familiarity about it. He served at her pleasure
>> and she had every legal right to fire him, but it's pretty clear that
>> an important factor in her decision to fire him was because he
>> wouldn't
>> fire her sister's ex-husband, a State Trooper. Under investigation
>> for abuse of power, she has had to admit that more than 2 dozen
>> contacts were made between her staff and family to the person
>> that she
>> later fired, pressuring him to fire her ex-brother-in-law. She
>> tried to
>> replace the man she fired with a man who she knew had been
>> reprimanded
>> for sexual harassment; when this caused a public furor, she withdrew
>> her support.
>>
>> She has bitten the hand of every person who extended theirs to her in
>> help. The City Council person who personally escorted her around town
>> introducing her to voters when she first ran for Wasilla City Council
>> became one of her first targets when she was later elected
>> Mayor. She
>> abruptly fired her loyal City Administrator; even people who didn't
>> like the guy were stunned by this ruthlessness.
>>
>> Fear of retribution has kept all of these people from saying anything
>> publicly about her.
>>
>> When then-Governor Murkowski was handing out political plums,
>> Sarah got
>> the best, Chair of the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation
>> Commission: one
>> of the few jobs not in Juneau and one of the best paid. She had no
>> background in oil & gas issues. Within months of scoring this great
>> job which paid $122,400/yr, she was complaining in the press
>> about the
>> high salary. I was told that she hated that job: the commute, the
>> structured hours, the work. Sarah became aware that a member of this
>> Commission (who was also the State Chair of the Republican Party)
>> engaged in unethical behavior on the job. In a gutsy move
>> which some
>> undoubtedly cautioned her could be political suicide, Sarah
>> solved all
>> her problems in one fell swoop: got out of the job she hated and
>> garnered gobs of media attention as the patron saint of ethics
>> and as a
>> gutsy fighter against the "old boys' club" when she dramatically
>> quit,
>> exposing this man's ethics violations (for which he was fined).
>>
>> As Mayor, she had her hand stuck out as far as anyone for pork from
>> Senator Ted Stevens. Lately, she has castigated his pork-barrel
>> politics and publicly humiliated him. She only opposed the
>> "bridge to
>> nowhere" after it became clear that it would be unwise not to.
>>
>> As Governor, she gave the Legislature no direction and budget
>> guidelines, then made a big grandstand display of line-item vetoing
>> projects, calling them pork. Public outcry and further legislative
>> action restored most of these projects--which had been vetoed simply
>> because she was not aware of their importance--but with the
>> unobservant
>> she had gained a reputation as "anti-pork".
>>
>> She is solidly Republican: no political maverick. The State party
>> leaders hate her because she has bit them in the back and humiliated
>> them. Other members of the party object to her self-description as a
>> fiscal conservative.
>>
>> Around Wasilla there are people who went to high school with Sarah.
>> They call her "Sarah Barracuda" because of her unbridled ambition and
>> predatory ruthlessness. Before she became so powerful, very ugly
>> stories circulated around town about shenanigans she pulled to be
>> made
>> point guard on the high school basketball team. When Sarah's
>> mother-in-law, a highly respected member of the community and
>> experienced manager, ran for Mayor, Sarah refused to endorse her.
>>
>> As Governor, she stepped outside of the box and put together of
>> package
>> of legislation known as "AGIA" that forced the oil companies to march
>> to the beat of her drum.
>>
>> Like most Alaskans, she favors drilling in the Arctic National
>> Wildlife
>> Refuge. She has questioned if the loss of sea ice is linked to
>> global warming. She campaigned "as a private citizen" against a
>> state
>> initiaitive that would have either a) protected salmon streams from
>> pollution from mines, or b) tied up in the courts all mining in the
>> state (depending on who you listen to). She has pushed the State's
>> lawsuit against the Dept. of the Interior's decision to list polar
>> bears as threatened species.
>>
>> McCain is the oldest person to ever run for President; Sarah will
>> be a
>> heartbeat away from being President.
>>
>> There has to be literally millions of Americans who are more
>> knowledgeable and experienced than she.
>>
>> However, there's a lot of people who have underestimated her and are
>> regretting it.
>>
>>
>> CLAIM VS FACT
>> *"Hockey mom": true for a few years
>> *"PTA mom": true years ago when her first-born was in elementary
>> school, not since
>> *"NRA supporter": absolutely true
>> *social conservative: mixed. Opposes gay marriage, BUT vetoed a
>> bill
>> that would have denied benefits to employees in same-sex
>> relationships
>> (said she did this because it was unconsitutional).
>> *pro-creationism: mixed. Supports it, BUT did nothing as
>> Governor to
>> promote it.
>> *"Pro-life": mixed. Knowingly gave birth to a Down's syndrome baby
>> BUT declined to call a special legislative session on some pro-life
>> legislation
>> *"Experienced": Some high schools have more students than
>> Wasilla has
>> residents. Many cities have more residents than the state of Alaska.
>> No legislative experience other than City Council. Little hands-on
>> supervisory or managerial experience; needed help of a city
>> administrator to run town of about 5,000.
>> *political maverick: not at all
>> *gutsy: absolutely!
>> *open & transparent: ??? Good at keeping secrets. Not good at
>> explaining actions.
>> *has a developed philosophy of public policy: no
>> *"a Greenie": no. Turned Wasilla into a wasteland of big box stores
>> and disconnected parking lots. Is pro-drilling off-shore and in
>> ANWR.
>> *fiscal conservative: not by my definition!
>> *pro-infrastructure: No. Promoted a sports complex and park in
>> a city
>> without a sewage treatment plant or storm drainage system. Built
>> streets to early 20th century standards.
>> *pro-tax relief: Lowered taxes for businesses, increased tax
>> burden on
>> residents
>> *pro-small government: No. Oversaw greatest expansion of city
>> government in Wasilla's history.
>> *pro-labor/pro-union. No. Just because her husband works union
>> doesn't make her pro-labor. I have seen nothing to support any claim
>> that she is pro-labor/pro-union.
>>
>> WHY AM I WRITING THIS?
>>
>> First, I have long believed in the importance of being an informed
>> voter. I am a voter registrar. For 10 years I put on student voting
>> programs in the schools. If you google my name (Anne Kilkenny +
>> Alaska), you will find references to my participation in local
>> government, education, and PTA/parent organizations.
>>
>> Secondly, I've always operated in the belief that "Bad things happen
>> when good people stay silent". Few people know as much as I do
>> because
>> few have gone to as many City Council meetings.
>>
>> Third, I am just a housewife. I don't have a job she can bump me out
>> of. I don't belong to any organization that she can hurt. But, I
>> am no
>> fool; she is immensely popular here, and it is likely that this will
>> cost me somehow in the future: that's life.
>>
>> Fourth, she has hated me since back in 1996, when I was one of
>> the 100
>> or so people who rallied to support the City Librarian against
>> Sarah's
>> attempt at censorship.
>>
>> Fifth, I looked around and realized that everybody else was afraid to
>> say anything because they were somehow vulnerable.
>>
>> CAVEATS
>> I am not a statistician. I developed the numbers for the increase in
>> spending & taxation 2 years ago (when Palin was running for Governor)
>> from information supplied to me by the Finance Director of the
>> City of
>> Wasilla, and I can't recall exactly what I adjusted for: did I
>> adjust
>> for inflation? for population increases? Right now, it is
>> impossible
>> for a private person to get any info out of City Hall--they are
>> swamped. So I can't verify my numbers.
>>
>> You may have noticed that there are various numbers circulating
>> for the
>> population of Wasilla, ranging from my "about 5,000", up to
>> 9,000. The
>> day Palin's selection was announced a city official told me that the
>> current population is about 7,000. The official 2000 census
>> count was
>> 5,460. I have used about 5,000 because Palin was Mayor from 1996 to
>> 2002, and the city was growing rapidly in the mid-90's.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 2:30 PM | Report abuse

It's pretty amazing the lefties here don't like it when Palin or anyone on the right replay "Nastiness" for "Nastiness". Grow up lefties. If you can't stand the heat, get out of her kitchen!!

Posted by: Laurog | September 4, 2008 2:30 PM | Report abuse

After watching her speech, as a hillary supporter,i feel so offended that hillary was compared with this woman.
Palin has no substance except the pitched voice. i wonder what will happen when she is off the stage and meets the press on her own.
Hillary has so much knowledge and articulateness.
even as a woman, i feel shame that this woman is on VP pick.
there are bunch of great women even in repub.
Maccain... are you really serious?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 2:29 PM | Report abuse

Okay, so she's a competent public speaker. Whoopie. Isn't that what the GOP has accused Obama of being? Just a good speaker?

Everyday, the GOP does something to kill one of their own arguments against the Democratic candidates. Nice work...

Posted by: Geriatric McLame | September 4, 2008 2:28 PM | Report abuse

Rudy Gulliani says she has more executive experience than McCain. Too bad, John.

Do the republicans plan on keeping palin isolated for 4 days every time she has to give a speech or talk to a reporter?
Where was she?
More of the same. Not another vice president who dwells in secrecy and isolation.

She wasn't even prepared to go on the campaign trail after the convention. She only packed for 2 days. She can't even be prepared for these minor events.

Posted by: bill parker | September 4, 2008 2:28 PM | Report abuse

I had been a Boston resident but now I live in London. The view from Europe is exasperation that someone with such limited world view would be a candidate for vice president. She's probably not a bad person to be governor of Alaska but thrusted onto the world stage, she would probably be hard pressed to name the leaders of France, Spain and the United Kingdom..., and those are the easy ones.

Cynically Laura Bush claims Palin has foreign experience because Alaska is the closest state to Russia. Now the phrase is being repeated by delegates at the RNC. This would be laughable if it were not sad and tragic - the narrow mindedness. It's almost like saying one should have a Harvard degree because they lived in a triple decker on Massachusetts Avenue a few blocks away from the University. Intelligence and experience through geographical absorption. I wish I could do that.

A former Bush advisor David Frum has given interviews on British news stations critical of McCain's choice. CNN caught Repblican analysts' off-handed comments about the 'cynical' choice. It seems that some centrist Republicans are having serious doubts. Hopefully they will look hard and long before they make their choice in November.

Posted by: Monty Haynes | September 4, 2008 2:27 PM | Report abuse

Who do you want as VP?

Joe Biden. The "cheney" to compensate for sweetie hussein's gross inexperience; a plagiarizing expert who has stolen more words than Milton Berle (and he's just as funny). Totally lacking in ethics, in his third-rate, mediocre law school Biden was only able to graduate 76th in a class of 85 - i.e., he was in the lowest 10.5%! Of course, while campaigning, he claimed falsely to have graduated in the "top half" of his class. A plagiarizer and a LIAR! As a politics-as-usual, 30+-year Washington parasite, Plagiarist-Joe never worked harder than in his efforts to kill bi-partisan legislation simply because it would have adversely affected the enormous income of his lobbyist son. Plagiarist-Joe is the poster-boy for all that is rotten with Washington. This choice further illustrates the incredibly bad judgment of the Chicago Cretin.

Sarah Palin. A true political reformer who has cleaned-up one of the most politically corrupt states in the nation and who has shown a solid and unwavering commitment to ethical government. Palin is the antithesis of Plagiarist-Joe.

Tough choice? ----NOT!

(For the genetically low-IQ supporters of hussein: sorry about using all these adult words. Just so you'll understand, "antithesis" means "opposite". Being a plagiarist is "bad" - not in sense of "good" but in the sense that going to jail for beating-up your old lady is "bad".)

Posted by: ALEX H. | September 4, 2008 2:27 PM | Report abuse

September 02, 2008
Palin's National Security Credentials
By Donald Douglas

From Real Clear Politics 'Cross Tabs':

"John McCain's selection of Alaska Governor Sarah Palin as vice-presidential running mate is proving more shrewd by the hour. As Blackfive points out, Governor Palin, as Alaska's chief executive, has shared strategic command of the 49th Missile Defense Battalion of the Alaska National Guard:

One area of Sarah Palin's background that may help her is Alaska's unique role in our national security and homeland defense. Several folks have have mentioned this but Tom W. was specific and his info jibes with the record.

Alaska is the first line of defense in our missile interceptor defense system. The 49th Missile Defense Battalion of the Alaska National Guard is the unit that protects the entire nation from ballistic missile attacks. It's on permanent active duty, unlike other Guard units.

As governor of Alaska, Palin is briefed on highly classified military issues, homeland security, and counterterrorism. Her exposure to classified material may rival even Biden's."

Posted by: jpm | September 4, 2008 2:26 PM | Report abuse

Can we all stop with the cries for policy wonking during Convention Week? All I have heard about over the past few days is that the Republicans are not doing a good enough job laying out their platform for growing the economy, ending the sub-prime mess, guaranteeing health care for all Americans and pulling the troops out of Iraq. ALL of this infromation, should you truly want it, is availabnle on both candidates websites. They will both spend plenty of time talking about it over the next several weeks out on the stump! The conventions are merely a rubber stamp, dog and pony show intended to whip your base into a frenzy! Nothing more! So let's stop criticizing the GOP rabble-rousers for not talking specifics! PLEASE! IF someone actually got up there on the stage and eschewed the RAH RAH stuff for an analytical and well thought out disquisition on how the party leadership intend to decrease the trade deficit by exactly 10.5% within the first annum, that individual would NEVER be asked to attend, let alone speak at a party function again! GIVE IT A REST!!!!!

Posted by: Independent Libertarian | September 4, 2008 2:26 PM | Report abuse

Country is divided and this is what we expect in a free democracy!! We all have our own bias, and views on how things should be done. We all have our own fallacies and short comings. These four guys have put their life in lime light and they expect this type of scrutiny, and criticism and poking and proding. But in the end we will have the best persons for the Job. Whether it is Bill or George, it is us the American people will have to endure their weaknesses. Better find whatever we can but once the election is over support the person and trust his/her judgement. Because rest assured they have the information more than you and I will ever have, and they have their legacy in mind. Ultimately that is what they live for. Because more vitriole we carry worse of we would be.

Posted by: Thoughtful | September 4, 2008 2:26 PM | Report abuse

I am absolutely appalled at the maliciousness that is being show in some of these postings. To call Sarah Palin a redneck because she is an Alaskan makes about as much sense as calling Hillary a gang-banger because she lives in New York. Alaska is one of the most technologically advanced states in the nation. Alaska is home to the community with the highest per-capita percentage of PHD holders in the nation. Alaska is a state of diverse people and resources, with great potential to bring energy relief to the rest of the United States. Calling Palin names like “caribou Barbie” does nothing but show an incredible amount of ignorance and lack of class. Keep it up, you can only help the McCain-Palin ticket.

Posted by: incredulous | September 4, 2008 2:26 PM | Report abuse

Sounds like a lot of bitter people out there who can't get over a woman in a higher ranking position then themselves. First Hillary, now Sarah. I bet you all hate your mothers, too.

Posted by: Juan | September 4, 2008 2:25 PM | Report abuse

StillClinging wrote:

"America really is a nation of small towns and Sarah Palin has shown herself to be quintessential small town American."

===========================================

I was born, raised and still live in my small hometown. I can say with some degree of certainty that Sarah Palin is most decidedly NOT 'quintessential small town American.'

In my small town we treat those with opposing viewpoints with respect. We do not spew venom at those with whom we disagree. And we most decidedly do not try to inspire others to a frenzy of partisan hatred by demeaning the life experience of others.

I'm glad I live in my small town and not her's.

Posted by: Dahagg | September 4, 2008 2:25 PM | Report abuse

Quoth sam:

she did great and i loved the speech, its about time someone like her stood up to the media bias that is pervasive in America today!
Posted by: sam | September 4, 2008 12:31 PM

--------------------------------

Don't worry, sam. As soon as the Democrats take back the White House and both houses of Congress, we're going to restore the Fairness Doctrine and take care of all the ridiculously biased right-wing television and radio networks that plague you so.

Posted by: GrouchoMarxist | September 4, 2008 2:24 PM | Report abuse

I kept expecting to hear hi-hat hits (ba-dum bomp) after each one of her lines followed with "But seriously folks"

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 2:22 PM | Report abuse

This story is circulating on the Internet and I'd like to know if it's true - does anyone know?

Subject: Wasilla voter's take on Palin
To: undisclosed-recipients


http://www.washingtonindependent.com/3671/the-reform-candidate
Submitted by Michael Wrightson on Sept 1, 2008


A note to all by Anne Kilkenny


Dear friends,

So many people have asked me about what I know about Sarah Palin in the last 2 days that I decided to write something up . . .

Basically, Sarah Palin and Hillary Clinton have only 2 things in common: their gender and their good looks. :)

You have my permission to forward this to your friends/email contacts with my name and email address attached, but please do not post it on any websites, as there are too many kooks out there . . .

[ This was already posted on Washington Independent comments area, with a controllable hotmail account, and was obviously meant by the author to be read. ]

Thanks,
Anne

ABOUT SARAH PALIN


I am a resident of Wasilla, Alaska. I have known Sarah since 1992.
Everyone here knows Sarah, so it is nothing special to say we are on a first-name basis. Our children have attended the same schools. Her father was my child's favorite substitute teacher. I also am on a first name basis with her parents and mother-in-law. I attended more City Council meetings during her administration than about 99% of the residents of the city.


She is enormously popular; in every way she's like the most popular girl in middle school. Even men who think she is a poor choice and won't vote for her can't quit smiling when talking about her because she is a "babe".


It is astonishing and almost scary how well she can keep a secret. She kept her most recent pregnancy a secret from her children and parents for seven months.


She is "pro-life". She recently gave birth to a Down's syndrome baby. There is no cover-up involved, here; Trig is her baby.


She is energetic and hardworking. She regularly worked out at the gym.


She is savvy. She doesn't take positions; she just "puts things out there" and if they prove to be popular, then she takes credit.


Her husband works a union job on the North Slope for BP and is a champion snowmobile racer. Todd Palin's kind of job is highly sought-after because of the schedule and high pay. He arranges his work schedule so he can fish for salmon in Bristol Bay for a month or so in summer, but by no stretch of the imagination is fishing their major source of income. Nor has her life-style ever been anything like that of native Alaskans.


Sarah and her whole family are avid hunters.


She's smart.


Her experience is as mayor of a city with a population of about 5,000 (at the time), and less than 2 years as governor of a state with about 670,000 residents.


During her mayoral administration most of the actual work of running this small city was turned over to an administrator. She had been pushed to hire this administrator by party power-brokers after she had gotten herself into some trouble over precipitous firings which had given rise to a recall campaign.


Sarah campaigned in Wasilla as a "fiscal conservative". During her 6 years as Mayor, she increased general government expenditures by over 33%. During those same 6 years the amount of taxes collected by the City increased by 38%. This was during a period of low inflation (1996-2002). She reduced progressive property taxes and increased a regressive sales tax which taxed even food. The tax cuts that she promoted benefited large corporate property owners way more than they benefited residents.


The huge increases in tax revenues during her mayoral administration weren't enough to fund everything on her wish list though, borrowed money was needed, too. She inherited a city with zero debt, but left it with indebtedness of over $22 million. What did Mayor Palin encourage the voters to borrow money for? Was it the infrastructure that she said she supported? The sewage treatment plant that the city lacked? or a new library? No. $1m for a park. $15m-plus for construction of a multi-use sports complex which she rushed through to build on a piece of property that the City didn't even have clear title to, that was still in litigation 7 yrs later--to the delight of the lawyers involved! The sports complex itself is a nice addition to the community but a huge money pit, not the profit-generator she claimed it would be. She also supported bonds for $5.5m for road projects that could have been done in 5-7 yrs without any borrowing.


While Mayor, City Hall was extensively remodeled and her office redecorated more than once.


These are small numbers, but Wasilla is a very small city.


As an oil producer, the high price of oil has created a budget surplus in Alaska. Rather than invest this surplus in technology that will make us energy independent and increase efficiency, as Governor she proposed distribution of this surplus to every individual in the state.


In this time of record state revenues and budget surpluses, she recommended that the state borrow/bond for road projects, even while she proposed distribution of surplus state revenues: spend today's surplus, borrow for needs.


She's not very tolerant of divergent opinions or open to outside ideas or compromise. As Mayor, she fought ideas that weren't generated by her or her staff. Ideas weren't evaluated on their merits, but on the basis of who proposed them.


While Sarah was Mayor of Wasilla she tried to fire our highly respected City Librarian because the Librarian refused to consider removing from the library some books that Sarah wanted removed. City residents rallied to the defense of the City Librarian and against Palin's attempt at out-and-out censorship, so Palin backed down and withdrew her termination letter. People who fought her attempt to oust the Librarian are on her enemies list to this day.


Sarah complained about the "old boy's club" when she first ran for Mayor, so what did she bring Wasilla? A new set of "old boys". Palin fired most of the experienced staff she inherited. At the City and as Governor she hired or elevated new, inexperienced, obscure people, creating a staff totally dependent on her for their jobs and eternally grateful and fiercely loyal--loyal to the point of abusing their power to further her personal agenda, as she has acknowledged happened in the case of pressuring the State's top cop (see below).


As Mayor, Sarah fired Wasilla's Police Chief because he "intimidated" her, she told the press. As Governor, her recent firing of Alaska's top cop has the ring of familiarity about it. He served at her pleasure and she had every legal right to fire him, but it's pretty clear that an important factor in her decision to fire him was because he wouldn't fire her sister's ex-husband, a State Trooper. Under investigation for abuse of power, she has had to admit that more than 2 dozen contacts were made between her staff and family to the person that she later fired, pressuring him to fire her ex-brother-in-law. She tried to replace the man she fired with a man who she knew had been reprimanded for sexual harassment; when this caused a public furor, she withdrew her support.


She has bitten the hand of every person who extended theirs to her in help. The City Council person who personally escorted her around town introducing her to voters when she first ran for Wasilla City Council became one of her first targets when she was later elected Mayor. She abruptly fired her loyal City Administrator; even people who didn't like the guy were stunned by this ruthlessness.


Fear of retribution has kept all of these people from saying anything publicly about her.


When then-Governor Murkowski was handing out political plums, Sarah got the best, Chair of the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission: one of the few jobs not in Juneau and one of the best paid. She had no background in oil & gas issues. Within months of scoring this great job which paid $122,400/yr, she was complaining in the press about the high salary. I was told that she hated that job: the commute, the structured hours, the work. Sarah became aware that a member of this Commission (who was also the State Chair of the Republican Party) engaged in unethical behavior on the job. In a gutsy move which some undoubtedly cautioned her could be political suicide, Sarah solved all her problems in one fell swoop: got out of the job she hated and garnered gobs of media attention as the patron saint of ethics and as a gutsy fighter against the "old boys' club" when she dramatically quit, exposing this man's ethics violations (for which he was fined).


As Mayor, she had her hand stuck out as far as anyone for pork from Senator Ted Stevens. Lately, she has castigated his pork-barrel politics and publicly humiliated him. She only opposed the "bridge to nowhere" after it became clear that it would be unwise not to.


As Governor, she gave the Legislature no direction and budget guidelines, then made a big grandstand display of line-item vetoing projects, calling them pork. Public outcry and further legislative
action restored most of these projects--which had been vetoed simply because she was not aware of their importance--but with the unobservant she had gained a reputation as "anti-pork".


She is solidly Republican: no political maverick. The State party leaders hate her because she has bit them in the back and humiliated them. Other members of the party object to her self-description as a fiscal conservative.


Around Wasilla there are people who went to high school with Sarah. They call her "Sarah Barracuda" because of her unbridled ambition and predatory ruthlessness. Before she became so powerful, very ugly stories circulated around town about shenanigans she pulled to be made point guard on the high school basketball team. When Sarah's mother-in-law, a highly respected member of the community and experienced manager, ran for Mayor, Sarah refused to endorse her.


As Governor, she stepped outside of the box and put together of package of legislation known as "AGIA" that forced the oil companies to march to the beat of her drum.


Like most Alaskans, she favors drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. She has questioned if the loss of sea ice is linked to global warming. She campaigned "as a private citizen" against a state initiaitive that would have either a) protected salmon streams from pollution from mines, or b) tied up in the courts all mining in the state (depending on who you listen to). She has pushed the State's lawsuit against the Dept. of the Interior's decision to list polar bears as threatened species.


McCain is the oldest person to ever run for President; Sarah will be a heartbeat away from being President.


There has to be literally millions of Americans who are more knowledgeable and experienced than she.


However, there's a lot of people who have underestimated her and are regretting it.


CLAIM VS FACT
•"Hockey mom": true for a few years
•"PTA mom": true years ago when her first-born was in elementary
school, not since
•"NRA supporter": absolutely true
•social conservative: mixed. Opposes gay marriage, BUT vetoed a bill that would have denied benefits to employees in same-sex relationships (said she did this because it was unconsitutional).
•pro-creationism: mixed. Supports it, BUT did nothing as Governor to promote it.
•"Pro-life": mixed. Knowingly gave birth to a Down's syndrome baby
BUT declined to call a special legislative session on some pro-life legislation
•"Experienced": Some high schools have more students than Wasilla has residents. Many cities have more residents than the state of Alaska. No legislative experience other than City Council. Little hands-on supervisory or managerial experience; needed help of a city administrator to run town of about 5,000.
•political maverick: not at all
•gutsy: absolutely!
•open & transparent: ??? Good at keeping secrets. Not good at explaining actions.
•has a developed philosophy of public policy: no
•"a Greenie": no. Turned Wasilla into a wasteland of big box stores and disconnected parking lots. Is pro-drilling off-shore and in ANWR.
•fiscal conservative: not by my definition!
•pro-infrastructure: No. Promoted a sports complex and park in a city without a sewage treatment plant or storm drainage system. Built streets to early 20th century standards.
•pro-tax relief: Lowered taxes for businesses, increased tax burden on residents
•pro-small government: No. Oversaw greatest expansion of city government in Wasilla's history.
•pro-labor/pro-union. No. Just because her husband works union doesn't make her pro-labor. I have seen nothing to support any claim that she is pro-labor/pro-union.


WHY AM I WRITING THIS?


First, I have long believed in the importance of being an informed voter. I am a voter registrar. For 10 years I put on student voting programs in the schools. If you google my name (Anne Kilkenny +
Alaska), you will find references to my participation in local government, education, and PTA/parent organizations.


Secondly, I've always operated in the belief that "Bad things happen when good people stay silent". Few people know as much as I do because few have gone to as many City Council meetings.


Third, I am just a housewife. I don't have a job she can bump me out of. I don't belong to any organization that she can hurt. But, I am no fool; she is immensely popular here, and it is likely that this will cost me somehow in the future: that's life.


Fourth, she has hated me since back in 1996, when I was one of the 100 or so people who rallied to support the City Librarian against Sarah's attempt at censorship.


Fifth, I looked around and realized that everybody else was afraid to say anything because they were somehow vulnerable.


CAVEATS
I am not a statistician. I developed the numbers for the increase in spending & taxation 2 years ago (when Palin was running for Governor) from information supplied to me by the Finance Director of the City of Wasilla, and I can't recall exactly what I adjusted for: did I adjust for inflation? for population increases? Right now, it is impossible for a private person to get any info out of City Hall--they are swamped. So I can't verify my numbers.


You may have noticed that there are various numbers circulating for the population of Wasilla, ranging from my "about 5,000", up to 9,000. The day Palin's selection was announced a city official told me that the current population is about 7,000. The official 2000 census count was 5,460. I have used about 5,000 because Palin was Mayor from 1996 to 2002, and the city was growing rapidly in the mid-90's.


Anne Kilkenny
annekilkenny@hotmail.com
August 31, 2008

Posted by: Veronica | September 4, 2008 2:22 PM | Report abuse

McCain did something when he was 26. He got shot down then beat up by those he was bombing. I might just do the same if I was being bombed. Nothing much else ever since. He's a cancer patient, 72 and didn't know there was a country between Iraq and Afghanastan. He picked a sportscaster Governor who's into big oil's pocket and you call it experience & wisdom. Good thing there's an election in November.

Posted by: Down with the GOP | September 4, 2008 2:22 PM | Report abuse

I forgot to mention , during her vice presidency and then her presidency she will be providing, lots of great quotable sound bites ... such as "the presidency is not a voyage of self discovery" !!!! LOL ..... how very true. Do you guys recall Ronald quoting Lucas? “The Evil Empire! AHHHHH , LOL .

Posted by: cucalafea | September 4, 2008 2:20 PM | Report abuse

she requested millions in federal earmakrs while mayor. evidently, now "she shares McCain's loathing for earmarks."

Posted by: tom | September 4, 2008 2:20 PM | Report abuse

ossilot

"WHY isn't the media calling out this woman for the lies she's been telling?"

Because the RNC very effectively positioned her as the quintessential "American" mom, holding down a job, taking care of the kids, etc. They don't DARE call her on any facts because they will immediately be labeled as "liberal elitists" and "sexist pigs".

Well done Carl Rove.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 2:19 PM | Report abuse

"And what is with mocking community organizers?"

Maybe this will be her "bitter" pill.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 2:19 PM | Report abuse


Sarah = Eva Peron in Alaska version
---- power hungry, corruptive, and most importantly, saintly.....

Posted by: mapradipa | September 4, 2008 2:18 PM | Report abuse

Hadeem Zakaria:

You are a disgusting racist. Don't even think of yourself as an American. You are an embarrassment to the rest of us.

Posted by: ossilot | September 4, 2008 2:18 PM | Report abuse

Big moves on Intrade! LOL!

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 4, 2008 2:17 PM | Report abuse

The GOP's platform is apparently to shi# talk their way into the presidency.

Plenty of lies and sarcastic, condescending BS from Palin.

Not one single iota of a plan for how to fix our country (that broke on the GOP's watch).

And what is with mocking community organizers?

What an insult to the unsung heroes in the trenches trying to help Americans from the bottom up. Being a community organizer is already a thankless, low paying job. Mocking them is simply disgusting.

What an out of touch, mean, nasty group the GOP is these days....

Posted by: Lame.... | September 4, 2008 2:16 PM | Report abuse

Let's see...

Repub inexperience argument-gone-she's worse.

Celebrity argument-gone-she's flashier.

Didn't address 'issue specifics' in convention-gone-they haven't either.

Roman columns? At least it was different than 'in the round' same set as GWB had last time. Frankly, they got nuthin' but an "ancient never was" and a young wannabe, neither having taken time to get qualified on what America actually needs. More of the same? No thanks. Change is good.

Posted by: McLame/Failin 2008 | September 4, 2008 2:16 PM | Report abuse

You have to ignore questions about the substance or accuracy or sarcasm of the speech. She probably added some lines of her own, but I'd guess 98% of the speech was drafted for her. That's okay, Mark Salter writes McCain's speeches and books, as often occurs with politicians. Obama is the exception, as was Reagan and, often, Bill Clinton .

Her delivery demonstrated confidence, poise, passion, and an ability to deliver zingers. It, also, revealed an ability to deliver complete untruths and gross exaggerations just as smoothly as truths and unadorned facts. Some politicians actually have trouble doing that.

I disliked the nose wrinkling whenever she seemed to want to punctuate a blatant attack or point. Her accent or tone of voice grated a little on me (and mine probably would on her). To me, the speech did not make her likable. A moment or two of humility or softness would have been nice (I kept thinking back to how well Biden came across on this score).

Finally, although her personality and style appear to well-suited to be the veep attack dog (or pit bull, in her words) I just could not feel she exhibited any credibility to be on the big stage criticizing a presidential candidate in the manner she was. To me, it made her look small.

Posted by: Byron | September 4, 2008 2:16 PM | Report abuse

OBAMA NEEDS SOME NEW RACE CARDS!

Now Obama has to figure out how to play on white guilt and racial preferences to smack down a mom with 5 kids, a blue collar husband and a real family with real problems.

How is he going to demand affirmative action, invoke white guilt and use the racial grievance mentality to demand she step aside so that social justice can be served to him, with his ivy league degrees and record of never having done anything for anyone other than himself? How to beat up a hockey mom for being white?

Such a quandry... He's going to have to go back to the race card store and get some new race cards that useless elite ivy league black guys can play against blue collar hockey moms.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 4, 2008 2:14 PM | Report abuse

Governor Palin found a target -- the "media" and the "Washington Elites" -- that will surely form the basis of the coming months of Republican Rebuttal.

The problem that she will increasingly face is that, contrary to her contention, the people are not criticizing her experience because it was gathered outside Washington. They are criticizing her experience because it is thin.

Her defense of the PTA, and of the mayoralty of a small town, as proper training for the Presidency does not ring true.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 2:13 PM | Report abuse

ThisRaceIsOver.

"Of all the qualified women that the Republicans could have chosen - Condi Rice, Libby Dole, Kay Bailey Hutchinson, etc., why they chose this one is beyond reason."

I'm sure it's not because they weren't asked.... None of these educated, intelligent, capable, qualified women want to be anywhere near John McCain. They've worked with him for years, know him intimately, and rejected his calls to be on his ticket. The RNC had to go all the way to the ends of the political earth to find someone willing to run with him.

Posted by: Chris in Texas | September 4, 2008 2:13 PM | Report abuse

>> LONGthreadnow wrote: "And you STILL go back to your abuser - the feminist Democratic party. Wow. Bed. Made. Lie."

The Democratic women feel they are superior to Republican women, yet they aren't treated as well, don't get the respect and they are tools used for the identity politics of others.

The sense of freedom that Democratic women have is a chimera. They get pushed around and never really get their agendas met, and they are held hostage by the threats of Roe v. Wade that Democrats hold over their head. Like abused women, they're told "If you think we're bad, they'll overturn Roe v. Wade". Abused women are told, "If you don't like me slapping you around, other men out there will treat you worse!"

Democratic women are workhorses of the Democratic party and they're second class to the men. They're the workhorses and tools, held hostage by threats over Roe v. Wade.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 4, 2008 2:12 PM | Report abuse

Dear Ass-per Grrl
Your comments are as tired and old as the rest of the Dem RHEOTORIC being spewed here. I would ask you to KISS ME WHERE I PEE, but considering where your lips have been SURGICALLY ATTACHED for the past 8 years, I am afraid of the STD’S

Posted by: Don | September 4, 2008 2:12 PM | Report abuse

Props to Gov. Palin -- she's had her night in the spotlight.

Now, how about putting the hard questions to her: the economy, the war, why she is out to undermine a woman's reproductive rights. That's what we need to focus on.

To quote Winston Churchill, "This is no time for ease and comfort. It is the time to dare and endure."

This country needs to dare to be a beacon of freedom again, to stand up for those in need, to welcome creative and intellectual diversity. That is what is at stake here.

Posted by: susan w. | September 4, 2008 2:12 PM | Report abuse

This about says it all about PALIN.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8uGenNjOAI

Posted by: patrick nyc | September 4, 2008 2:10 PM | Report abuse

She strikes me as a black widow, toxic and dangerous, dispite the outward charm. I guess the chill is produced by the sneer behind the smile. She reminded me of Dick Cheney :-)

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 2:08 PM | Report abuse

The GOP pulled Palin straight out of the Jerry Springer audience to put on the national ticket.

Posted by: Bush/Chaney to McLame/Failin | September 4, 2008 2:07 PM | Report abuse

Instead of growing their base, last night the Republican Party managed to constrict it down to their hardcore.

Sarah Palin managed to offend two-thirds of the nation rather than reach out to it. By coming out of nowhere and proudly declaring herself the leader of a resumed culture war, she is hitting exactly the wrong tone, with the wrong content.

The growing demographic diversity of this nation does not want to go to war with white rural Pentecostals. Why is she picking this fight? Is that what rural America wants, another Civil War? Or is it just the End Time that they are seeking?

I know that old-line secular Republicans are just as tired of this angry bluster coming from backwoods fundamentalists as the rest of us. We need good governance, not fire and brimstone politicking.

Sarah's faction of religious separatists are a small minority of this great nation. We're going to keep it great, against their attempts to dismantle it.

Posted by: Terry Carroll | September 4, 2008 2:06 PM | Report abuse

McCain made an amazing pick. Palin is simply dynamic. Would any of the other choices available to him have been half the asset she is? Obama meanwhile disdained his strongest option -- Hillary -- and managed to latch onto a moss-covered insider who is the perfect foil for Palin. If I'd spent the last 30 years in the U.S. Senate, I think the last thing I'd want to do is face off against Palin.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 2:06 PM | Report abuse

No class..plain and simple

Posted by: jameo | September 4, 2008 2:05 PM | Report abuse

It is unfortunate that so many postings are vulgar and disrespectful. Most importantly they don't attempt to lend a relevant informed opinion of the question posed by the Fix. It not only offends the numerous readers whether they are men, women, or children, but the Washington Post as well. It is very sad. There are numerous people who should be ashamed and proves very few people actually want to have a respectful and intelligent conversation willing to acknowledge and respect dissenting views while taking the time to form a strong analytical opinion. It won't matter who wins the White House because ultimately, the same veil feelings exist equally amongst both parties.

Posted by: Disapointed | September 4, 2008 2:04 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin is not just the embodiment of the new Republican party that McCain is shaping, she is the new face of feminism.

She is "A Natural" and she is completely natural in her executive femininity.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 4, 2008 2:03 PM | Report abuse

still clingin: "America really is a nation of small towns..."
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No, it really is not. The USA has a population of 303 million, 81% of whom live in cities and suburbs. Fewer than 1 in 5 Americans live in a rural town.

Posted by: Stuart | September 4, 2008 2:03 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Fred | September 4, 2008 2:02 PM | Report abuse


39 year old unmarried Dem females are apoplectic over this Palin nomination. They're doomed to permanent singledom, with no hubby, no children, (and by extension, no grandchildren) but hey, they've got their cubicle, their cat, and a little policy-wonking on washingtonpost.com.

And you STILL go back to your abuser - the feminist Democratic party. Wow. Bed. Made. Lie.

Posted by: LONGthreadnow | September 4, 2008 2:02 PM | Report abuse

What strikes me in all of this is the question being asked by the left - she is a heartbeat away from being president, is she qualified? Well, she is definately more qualified than the Dem's presidential pick Obama. Obama has been in the Senate for 4 years (3 of which he has done nothing but campaingn full time for the presidency)while she is the CEO of the state of Alaska. She is not more qualified than Biden in a VP vs VP race but ironically is way more qualified than Obama. Shouldn't Biden be running against McCain?

Posted by: Irv Fleckman | September 4, 2008 2:02 PM | Report abuse

WHY isn't the media calling out this woman for the lies she's been telling? Are all of the networks in the tank for McCain now? Are all of the men so enticed by a good looking woman? Are all the women so taken that a on?woman was selected they've decided to stop thinking? What the H*** is going on?? This woman was not speaking in a tone one uses to debate issues. She was downright nasty, combative and one of the most disrespectful politicians I've seen in some time. I certainly hope that Joe Biden will give it right back to her. I don't care if she's a woman. She deserves what she gives and if that's a problem, then she should not be in politics at all. I'd bet that McCain picked her because he knows Obama will want her treated with kid gloves just like he did with Clinton. I didn't agree with that then and don't agree with it now. Clinton took advantage of that and I hope he doesn't let this one do the same thing. She needs to be put in the same positions she's put him in. No holds barrred as far as I'm concerned and, yes, I'm a woman!!!

Posted by: ossilot | September 4, 2008 2:00 PM | Report abuse

Where is Hillary Clinton when we need her? Let's see how Obama's decision for VP pans out in this election. The outcome of this election is now quite unpredictable. As left as I am, the republicans simplistic political strategies are a lot of more feasible and well-received by the general public than the lofty democratic agenda.

Posted by: mountainmeadow | September 4, 2008 2:00 PM | Report abuse

Biglio

"Us foreigners really don't understand how in America being an "average" man (or woman" qualifies you for the top job"

Interesting and intelligent question. I think the answer lies in our now-distant past. Like you, we were ruled by a colonial elite and it was a rag-tag group of farmers that fought and won our independence. Also, up until WW2, the Federal government was a very small organization primarily chartered to "provide for the mutual defense" of the states. We didn't need an intellectual giant to be a president. Of course, that certainly changed after WW2. Also, we like to hold on to the myth that any old "joe or jane" can win the presidency of the US. This harkens back to our trust in the "common man" and "common sense". The reality is that only the wealthy political elite run this country. So what we get is a political elite (repub and democrat - makes no differenc), that have to pander to these outdated notions.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 1:58 PM | Report abuse

>> Aspercreme wrote: "She lost. In spite of your hundreds of posts to WaPo under a bunch of different names, she lost. Get it? Game over."

Firstly, I don't post under different names. Secondly, you're a little too fixated on me if you imagine I'm posting things that others are posting. You need to get a grip on your imagining you see AsperGirl in other peoples' posts.

Secondly, I'm taunting Obama. He got sandbagged into thinking McCain was going to run an old-white-man ticket. Obama thought he could get away with not picking HIllary, and now he's stuck with a useless Biden on his ticket and he blew his whole convention on building an argument against McCain that McCain was the same as Bush.

McCain outfoxed Obama, drawing him away from picking Hillary Clinton as his VP, which the sexist got suckered into doing.

You watch, the female vote is going to dribble away starting as of today.

LOL. I'm not insisting Obama change his ticket. I think it's too late for him. He'd have no credibility if he did.

I'm pulling for Sarah Palin. She's much better than Hillary Clinton.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 4, 2008 1:57 PM | Report abuse

Previously a Barr-leaning, undecided, Indy, Palin pride and patriotism won me over. America really is a nation of small towns and Sarah Palin has shown herself to be quintessential small town American. Consider thus statement from her speech last night...

"We grow good people in our small towns, with honesty and sincerity and dignity.... I grew up with those people. They're the ones who do some of the hardest work in America, who grow our food and run our factories and fight our wars. They love their country in good times and bad and they're always proud of America.'"

I was reminded of this incident: I was initially upset when President Bush committed our troops to war in Iraq. Like many, I questioned whether the evidence was exaggerated and if the government should risk American lives.

That weekend after the war had started, I drove from my cosmopolitan suburban DC condo pass the protesters and anti-war banners to the small blue collar town where I grew up. As I entered from the interstate I noticed an American flag flying from every single light pole and on porches and windows along the main street. At the first stoplight, the local florist assembled a patriotic display and had posted the photos and names of all the locals who had been deployed...private, airman, sergeant.. likely, I thought, the first people in line to be shot up -- hailed there on the main street as hometown heros. Country first. I sat there at the light for what seemed like an eternity with tears streaming down my face -- not necessarily convinced war was the answer, but proud of the stock from which I was cut.

After her speech last night I was left felling I personally know Sarah. She is the mother of that grunt in the florist window... the fellow parishioner at church ...the PTA member heading up the bake sale committee... the parent loudly cheering as the home team scores.. the one whose otherwise good kids, sometimes make wrong choices. Sarah Palin is the tenacity, honor and duty that embodies every small town in America.

Sarah, all of us from Scranton and other small towns throughout this country proudly clinging to our guns and our God -- we recognize you, we welcome you, we support you. God Speed!

Posted by: Still Clinging to Guns and God | September 4, 2008 1:57 PM | Report abuse

Seeing as this was her first nationally televised address, I was hoping to learn about the nuances of her stance on the issues, since we all only know basic information about her. Sadly she offered nothing new in that respect, and instead spent the entire time showing an image of aggression that had nothing to do with issues that would affect American people.

One image of her aggression was defending her potential as VP in light of being a new mom of a special needs child, and of her lack of job experience in the field of government and politics. Clearly she has already been interrogated and harassed by some reporters and pundits on these points, and the buzz on the blogosphere is also quite great, but her response to the attacks were not graceful or diplomatic in my opinion. The aggressive response is like that of a so-called hockey mom seeing her son get checked. It's not really the kind of response you want a leader to have in a national security situation, especially since we already know the result of that type of aggressive response.

The other aggressive stance was attacking Obama, and I found it really interesting that she would state that he is basically two-faced by allegedly changing his talk depending on his audience. This is a quality that seems to apply to all politicians, herself included. For example, she directly denounced the practice of earmarks last night, when we now know there exists her recorded speech from Alaska during which she graciously praised those in Washington who provided such earmarks on Alaska's behalf.

Once again, the GOP knows how to put the spin on a concept to market to the general public.

Posted by: Denise | September 4, 2008 1:56 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin speech was filled with insults and attacts. No substance and met the standards of the "same old politics" that the Republician stand for. Sad day if you ask me for the RNC.

Posted by: Judyplace | September 4, 2008 1:56 PM | Report abuse

Many who read the repeated venom-laden attacks posted here may be surprised at the level of vitriol they contain, however, one need only consider the decidedly left-leaning readership of the Post in order to see a clearer picture of how Gov. Palin is actually being received after last night's coming out party. Personally, I thought she played well in front of the "home" crowd, but she was expected to do well in front of a friendly crowd. Politics is all about EXCEEDING expectations. I will be curious to see how she does in the VP debate against a "seasoned" opponent in Joe Biden. Above all, I hope that people do not lose sight of the fact that the GOP, dominated solely by white men throughout its entire history, has listened to the cries for change and inclusion and has made adjustments to their usual m.o. in order to be more inclusive. Now, is this enough? No, of course not. But it is a move in the right direction!!! To support this selection is to support continued movement to the center. Bashing it merely encourages the old guard to continue to nominate the same tired faces that they have offered for the last century! Let's support progress by endorsing this selection! Does that mean you should vote for McCain/Palin? No. You should vote for whomever you feel will be best for the country, whomever they may be, but bashing this historic selection for the sake of promoting your own favorite candidate is sophomoric and promotes regressive thinking!

Posted by: Independent Libertarian | September 4, 2008 1:55 PM | Report abuse

The Dems are having some serious "Buyer's Remorse" right about now.

Wow! Obama is our candidate! Wait. Obama is our candidate...oh man....

It's hilarious how people say, "Who is Sarah Palin?" when 18 months ago, 99% of people said "Who is Barack Obama?"

But of course, we're in the land of the free, and the home of the idiots....

Obama, the candidate of CHANGE, picks Joe Biden, the consummate insider and Beltway bathroom fixture. LOL.....

I swear people, you can't make this stuff up....

Posted by: remorse | September 4, 2008 1:55 PM | Report abuse

To independent. Please do not compare Palin to a hot librarian. She doesn't like librarians. She fired the Wasilla librarian because the librarian would not ban books. Do not insult the good and noble profession of librarianship by describing Palin as a hot librarian. I am a hot librarian, so I should know what I am talking about. Librarians believe in free speech and the right to read whatever you want.

Posted by: Marlene | September 4, 2008 1:54 PM | Report abuse

My impressions: Can read a speech written by somebody else off a teleprompter pretty well. Sounds like Spiro Agnew. Mean and petty. The Base will love her. The 75% rest of us...... not so much.

Makes McCain look ancient. Obama offers hope. McCain/Palin offers anger.

Still unqualified to be VP. Her 'dysfunctional reality show TV family' and multiple scandals will be a major drag on the ticket.

Bottom line: Obama still wins.

Posted by: Unrepentant Liberal | September 4, 2008 1:53 PM | Report abuse

Democrats to Sarah Palin: Go bake me some pie.
Sarah Palin and Hillary Clinton to Democrats: Let me finish cutting your balls off first. This dull knife takes a while.

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Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 1:53 PM | Report abuse

Truly Sarah Palin was the very embodiment of the modern Republican party last night.

Cheerily nasty, sarcastic and condescending she heaped scorn, mockery and falsehoods upon Obama's public service and family. The respectful tone shown at the Democratic convention last week toward McCain was nowhere to be found.

The contrast with Obama's call for a new politics of civility could not have been more striking. Nothing could showcase the necessity of Obama's call more than this diatribe.

But this is nothing more than what I expected (though I hoped for better). What astonishes me though is the generally favorable reviews this speech is getting in the press.

I can only attribute this to the "reality bubble" of the convention rubbing off - where mere facts were irrelevant and the delegates readily cheered any hate-filled pronouncement.

Posted by: Careysub | September 4, 2008 1:50 PM | Report abuse

>>EB wrote: "How dare you and others like you think that being anti-Palin means being a chauvinist or sexist. Real feminism rejects you because you would rather see a woman in a position of power (even though she's just a puppet of an over-zealous sexist cabal of old geezers) rather than understand that she's the problem not the solution. Geez, this pisses me off!"

You have no idea what "real feminism" is. If you think those unnatural, ivory-tower, pseudo-sophisticates like Gloria Steinem are "real feminists", you have to do a double take.

All those old, Democratic feminists are long debunked. Their brand of personally bankrupt, hollow feminism is dead and gone. Their impoverished femininity and their feminism have failed. No one has felt they are relevant for decades, as "real women" have rejected their distorted personal lives.

Sarah Palin is a whole, natural woman feminist. She is a neo-feminist, and calls herself a "pro life feminist". They don't have distorted personal relationships, power confusion, and they don't believe that babies keep them from attaining self-realization. They are completely feminine and completely unaffected in their feminism.

The Democratic feminists are old dinosaurs from a bankrupt, failed movement.

The Democratic feminists today are impotent and full of empty ideas they can't realize because they're too personally impoverished. They're little more than affectations of the Democratic Party, impotent tools.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 4, 2008 1:49 PM | Report abuse

"Better find whatever we can but once the election is over support the person and trust his/her judgement. Because rest assured they have the information more than you and I will ever have, and they have their legacy in mind. Ultimately that is what they live for. Because more vitriole we carry worse of we would be." ------- This is a mindless, lazy attitude that leads to allowing unqualified leaders to invading countries for no good reason and plunging the country into trillions of dollars of debt.

Posted by: anthonyafterwit | September 4, 2008 1:48 PM | Report abuse

Senator Barry Hussein's (aka Senator Purple Lips) star is beginning to fade. I am laughing at how scared the Dems are of an electrified Republican Convention compliments of Gov. Palin. LOL!

Posted by: Nadeem Zakaria | September 4, 2008 1:48 PM | Report abuse

BigB is not only wrong, but lying, and perpetuates the myths of the extreme left.

Posted by: JF | September 4, 2008 1:48 PM | Report abuse

"Bored of drilling the Obama women, eh?"

Nah. I'm with Bill Clinton on this one -- I like my women white and trashy! I just did my office in wall to wall Palin!

Posted by: Clarence Thomas | September 4, 2008 1:43 PM

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Posted by: Ha ha ha | September 4, 2008 1:48 PM | Report abuse

Palin's speech was entertaining. But, until a week ago, I had never heard of her, and doubt most of you had either. If she had such a compelling message for all of us, such impressive results with her leadership in Alaska, might we not have heard of them? Or even one of them? I shudder at the thought that (God forbid) she could be President this time next year.

Posted by: CB1231 | September 4, 2008 1:47 PM | Report abuse

I don't get the media. Are you all afraid of women? Everyone is talking about what a good speech this way, how she showed she's a good mother and how wonderful she is to be a Governor and mother at the same time. MOST women in this country, unfortunately, must juggle work and family. I don't care what you do for a living, it cannot be easy. MOST women with children I know with teenagers don't face their daughter getting pregnant. What values did she teach this girl or did she just not do it at all? In Alaska, she's voted against funding for children with disabilities. Now she is using her own son to get votes from women who have Down Syndrome children. Doesn't sound like a very strong sense of morality to me. Also, she seems somewhat aloof to me when it comes to her family. She's told us her husband is a fisherman and works for BP (surprise! another oil family). Now the media is saying that he's a stay at home dad. What is the truth with this woman???? She's also not the great Mayor or Governor she makes hereself out to be. She's just another Republican who says what needs to be said in order to win. I hope everyone demands that questions be asked and answered soon if they're not too scared that is.

Posted by: ossilot | September 4, 2008 1:47 PM | Report abuse

My wife and I watched almost all of Palin's speech last night, until my wife got so angry (at the speech) that she started vacuuming the floor in front of the TV. I really don't understand why the press is giving Palin a pass on both the contents and her delivery. For the TV audience (which was obviously much more important than the party insiders at the convention), the speech was a dismal failure.

Aside from the generally nasty tone, Palin's speech simply did not come off like it was tailored for Palin. Most of the speech was probably partially written some time ago, assuming the VP candidate would be one of the "usual suspects" (Ridge, Huckabee, Romney, etc.), before they picked Palin, and was poorly adapted to her style and strengths. She certainly has no grounds to criticize Obama's experience, and neither she nor McCain can come close to matching Obama's intelligence, judgment and talent.

The speech contained numerous, blatant falsehoods. For example, she didn't refuse the earmark for the "Bridge to Nowhere". Her administration took the money Congress allocated and spent it on other projects, only after public condemnation came out against the bridge. In fact, Alaska receives the most per capita federal tax money in the entire U.S., and Palin actively sought millions in federal pork as governor. She also claimed to have governing experience in her small town, but she had previously admitted that there were only about 60 town employees (which sounds like a lot for a town of 7000 - so much for small government) and it was a part time job. She also didn't mention that she tried to fire the town librarian for refusing to censor the library's collection, and is under investigation for allegedly firing a state employee for refusing to fire a man who had divorced Palin's sister. These issues are not sexist or the houndings of a "liberal" media - they are serious questions about Palin's ethics and ability to be an effective leader.

In addition to the falsehoods, her delivery was terrible - she giggles like a schoolgirl and she was painfully reading the details about her own family off the teleprompter! Has 8 years of Bush's verbal fumbling really set the bar so low? Of all the qualified women that the Republicans could have chosen - Condi Rice, Libby Dole, Kay Bailey Hutchinson, etc., why they chose this one is beyond reason.

Unlike all of the die-hard GOP voters in these comments who pretend to be Hillary democrats voting for McCain, I freely admit that I am, and was, going to vote for Obama regardless of the GOP convention speeches. However, the Palin speech actually drove me to part with some of my own money (and possibly a significant amount of my free time this fall) to support Obama and Biden. This country cannot afford four more years of government by the oil industry. Obama-Biden is the only real choice.

Posted by: This Race is Over | September 4, 2008 1:46 PM | Report abuse


"Hitlery" Clinton makes me turn the television OFF.


Sarah "Hockey Mom" Palin make me turn the television ON.


There it is.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 1:46 PM | Report abuse

Listen AsperGirl:

She lost. In spite of your hundreds of posts to WaPo under a bunch of different names, she lost. Get it? Game over.

Now go get lost.

Posted by: Aspercreme | September 4, 2008 1:45 PM | Report abuse

So she has mastered the art of evangelical lying, of turning her failure as a parent and her gross lack of serious experience (unless you count giving the green light to massive, senseless slaughtering of wildlife) into plusses. Just because she looks like a Barbie doll does not mean she has the credentials to lead a country. She cannot even control her own daughter., no less oversee a country, should she end up as president.

Posted by: jill | September 4, 2008 1:45 PM | Report abuse

"A Pit Bull with Lipstick"

Now that she has defined herself, the gloves are off and the brass knuckles are on.

She thinks she can throw a punch? She ain't seen nuthin yet! I hope she can take it like she can dish it out.

Bad news for Repubs: she completely overshadows the Old Geezer with her extremist, sneering rants.

Her extremist positions may generate the campaign $$$ the Repubs so desperately need, but any undecided voters will be running for cover while the news media will be having a field day trashing her record.

How does Obama keep getting all these lucky breaks?

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Posted by: JLee | September 4, 2008 1:44 PM | Report abuse

"Bored of drilling the Obama women, eh?"

Nah. I'm with Bill Clinton on this one -- I like my women white and trashy! I just did my office in wall to wall Palin!

Posted by: Clarence Thomas | September 4, 2008 1:43 PM | Report abuse

Here we go again! Sarah Palin is now the front woman for the Extreme right-wing Republican attack machine. They had to go all the way to Alaska to find someone extreme enough to spout this nonsense! I listened to her speech Wednesday night because I wanted to see what kind of person she is. She was sarcastic, pompous, bitter, crude and showed very little class. Her speech was extremely low-brow. Sounds like our current commander-in-chief and you know how well he has done running this country.
McCain wants to be president so bad, he has finally let the far-right takeover his whole campaign. Most people I know are fed-up with this kind of political discourse. The Republicans will lose in November, and they will lose big!

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Posted by: Ouch | September 4, 2008 1:43 PM | Report abuse

YESTERDAY'S RISING STAR -- TODAY'S CHOPPED LIVER

Wow, after all that empty rhetoric from the hollow posturing narcissist, there appears on the scene a politician with a charisma grounded in an ability to actually do things and run things and mean what she says! A charismatic who is a real person and not a poseur!

Obama looks kinda like a 30-year-old child actor right now. An old fad. Chopped liver.

"What did we ever see in him? He's so yesterday!"

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 4, 2008 1:42 PM | Report abuse

Some retard named Di had the audacity to write: "Palin is awesome! Now I know who I'm voting for! This is the real feminism we need!".... Di, you wouldn't know a feminist even if your (lame) life depended on it! How dare you and others like you think that being anti-Palin means being a chauvinist or sexist. Real feminism rejects you because you would rather see a woman in a position of power (even though she's just a puppet of an over-zealous sexist cabal of old geezers) rather than understand that she's the problem not the solution. Geez, this pisses me off!

Posted by: EB | September 4, 2008 1:42 PM | Report abuse

McCain wins! Palin becomes President in 4 years (or less). Our “New Reagan!” – Here’s is a small glimpse of the future:

- (Energy Policy) - Drill now, drill often, wherever – it doesn’t matter. Throw in a couple of domestic wind farms and "new-clear" plants. Gas rises to $8.00 a gallon and beyond.
- (National Defense/Homeland Security)- The perpetual war, a.k.a. “God’s Plan,” is here to stay. Lots of cool weapons and eavesdropping devices invented.
- (Separation of Church and State) - The best and brightest of Regent University will be happy to get back to you on that.
- (Civil Rights) - Raped and impregnated by Uncle Bob? Supreme Court has ruled no choice allowed. Didn’t you know that?
- (Taxes) – Only for national defense and morality education. Tornado hit your town? We’ll dispatch the army to help once they finish their offensive on the Eurasian front. In the meantime, Pastor Phil and Sister Maggie will come down to dole out beans and franks and sustain you with the Word. It may take a few days, the public roads are not in the best of shape.
- (Education) – See Taxes above.
- (Health and Housing) – It was just as well Aunt Betsy died in the emergency room from that stomach virus – she couldn’t afford to live with us anymore anyway.

Posted by: Blizfla | September 4, 2008 1:42 PM | Report abuse

ANONYMOUS, It sounds like you fit into that category. First, if you read correctly I was not comparing DUMBASS George Bush but the republican party leadership for the last eight years. I see you could of used some the school funding so that you can learn how to read and spell.

Posted by: Concerned Citizen, MD | September 4, 2008 1:42 PM | Report abuse

Like Guiliani who preceded her, she came off as little more than snotty. I was moved by her speech - to donate to the Obama campaign. The Republicans must be punished for the havoc they have wreaked on America for the past eight years. She was persuasive in only one area: that if elected, she will be as much of a mediocrity in a position of power as George W. Bush.

Posted by: Scott | September 4, 2008 1:41 PM | Report abuse

Democrats to Sarah Palin: Go bake me some pie.
Sarah Palin and Hillary Clinton to Democrats: Let me finish cutting your balls off first. This dull knife takes a while.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 1:41 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin did better than anyone expected. Her attacks were direct, her delivery was very smooth, and she projected confidence. And she is right -- mayors have much more responsibility than a community organizer. maybe Obama will regret he made such a big deal of that nothing job in Chicago.

Posted by: James Barlow | September 4, 2008 1:41 PM | Report abuse

at the risk of generalizing (as it seems to have been done in at least every other post here by [presumably] dems), why is it that whining dems just want to say that mccain/pailn wont address the "real" issues and propose solutions to address these problems? all obama has done is criticize that status-quo in monday-morning-qb style with few concrete solutions proposed moving forward. Those he has offered are questionable, to say the least - both in form and function. And it is not hard to criticize the current state of things and simply blame republicans generally. That is all obama done...while casting his spell. I gues that's just politics in general, but come clean dems and admit it goes both ways. Too bad hillary couldnt pull it off 0 at least she was a known commodity. Obama is scary.

Posted by: dc - ind | September 4, 2008 1:41 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin is nothing but a vaudeville act in the human form that isdesigned for one reason and one reason only - to rally the conservative base that had been starving for some red meat rhetoric for a while. It make sense as the energy in republican campaign this election season is measured only in Fred Thomson units. But the problem for my conservative friends for pushing this one trick pony too far is that they might turn it in to a proxy election between a genuine candidate that claimed a spot on the ballet with 18 million votes and a political flyweight who got here with one vote of a sad old caricature of himself. I am quite sure Obama campaign will be more than happy to take on that battle.

And, what's up with McCain's campaign going after media. Bad mistake, me thinks. The only reason without a doubt why McCain is in the position where he is now is that he never failed to offer milk and cookies to every journalist he came across in his career. Going after the people who got him here is a spectacularly bad strategy.

Posted by: newamerican | September 4, 2008 1:41 PM | Report abuse

So what? She has the mastered the art of evangelical lying. Give me a break. She manages to turn her failings as a parent to her advantage. She turns her inexperience into a plus. All the ignorant people who buy this are the very people pouring money into the baskets of the evangelical leaders who are dinking around with their children. Good grief!

Posted by: jill | September 4, 2008 1:40 PM | Report abuse

Well, the delivery was OK and was obviously playing to the base. I thought her style was not very statesmanlike - more of a Rush Limbaugh monologue than an appeal to moderate Americans (independents or whatever you want to call them). My wife hated it so I doubt this is going to capture the hearts of a lot of non GOP folks, least of all women.

I was on the fence between McCain and Obama because of a concern on Obama's experience. Now that Sarah is the veep,that issue has disappeared for me. I'm voting Obama. You right wingers on this blog can breathe easily though as I live in Massachusetts where democratic wins in presidential elections are academic.

As a father of 3 small children, I found the passing around of Trig as some kind of family values baton (good thing the US Olympic relay team wasn't there) at 10 PM in a loud, crowded event way over the top. I keep thinking the theme song for the speech should have been "Up all night" by the Talking Heads.

Finally, as a hockey coach, I now understand why we have to get all of the hockey moms to sign code of conduct forms.

Posted by: Joe | September 4, 2008 1:38 PM | Report abuse

Palin gives the McCain ticket the WOW factor, missing until now. When Hillary was losing while campaigning in primaries, the late Tim Russert decided to end the primaries. I was stunned until his tragic heart attack and elaborate state funeral which followed. Turns out He wasn't a newsman--he was a media-God. This pattern is continuing with Sarah Palin as the target of power-hungry media. Let it go. This time you won't win.

Posted by: Zaney8 | September 4, 2008 1:38 PM | Report abuse

HKY Virginia,

You can call it imasculating all you want, but the fact of the matte ris that Gov. Palin is a lier. It's more important to the "dittoheads" of the world these days that pliticians be debasing and shrewd. Her sppech offered no substance and in fact she debased community organizers. These are the people who work with the church, and such, who help people find jobs and fight for their rights. I guess this is not important to the republican party. Sara Palin sure made that clear last night.

Posted by: BigB | September 4, 2008 1:37 PM | Report abuse

I loved Jon Stewart last night, playing clips from the GOP talking heads, including Rove and Palin talking about how Hillary complaining about the press 'beating up' on her. Paling said she should suck it up and try harder.

The mean spirited tone, especially from Mayor 9/11 and Palin, shows that the GOP has nothing but slash and burn Rove playbook.

Posted by: patrick nyc | September 4, 2008 1:36 PM | Report abuse

Drill, baby, drill!

That's how I feel about Sarah Palin -- I'd drill that skank for sure1

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Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 1:36 PM | Report abuse

She is attractive, sharp, eloquent, funny, and dignified! Wow! What a package! , I used to miss Reagan, not so much anymore. Now here is a woman I can be proud represents my gender in a high official capacity!

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Posted by: Ha ha ha | September 4, 2008 1:35 PM | Report abuse

Drill, baby, drill!

That's how I feel about Sarah Palin -- I'd drill that skank for sure1

Posted by: Clarence Thomas | September 4, 2008 1:35 PM | Report abuse

If you are a big fan of the culture wars, it looks like Palin is your candidate.

Posted by: drossless | September 4, 2008 1:34 PM | Report abuse

For some reason, a lot of republicans today seem to be living in some fantasy world that Palin changed everything with one mean-spirited, cynical, sarcastic speech that she delivered in a deer-in-the-headlights, wooden persona that makes Al Gore seem animated, and that suddenly all the Democrats are scared.

Once the next morning afterglow fades and everyone realizes that she represents more of the worst of all republicans, they'll see that the only thing Democrats are scared about is that nervous feeling you get in your stomach when you realize you're about to have to step up and lead as opposed to just being horrified at the mess the current administration has created.

Look at her record, it's everything she says it's not.

Posted by: tm | September 4, 2008 1:34 PM | Report abuse

I love reading the posts of wannabe Dem policy wonks who so obviously don't get it.

Earth to Dem policy wonks, come in. You're in brain-dead America, people. You Dems, with your assinine love of public schools, have succeeded in creating a nation of idiots. And they will vote for Sarah Palin. And she will probably win. And it will be your fault. Yes, YOUR fault.

So wonk all you want. Cry-baby all you want about how she didn't include your beloved POLICY in her speech. You, my friend, are the one who does not understand how it all works. You created a brain-dead public with your brain-dead public school teachers who score miserably themselves on a constantly-changing SAT(to hide the real decline in scores, of course).

So, cry-baby all you want. You're OUT of it. You're clueless. You don't get it.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 1:34 PM | Report abuse

What we saw tonight was the middleclass family that Obama and Biden want to help, telling the politicians and the media to get out of the way while they help themselves.

Posted by: Dadvocate | September 4, 2008 1:34 PM | Report abuse

Obama's Pastor: GODDAMN SARAH PALIN!!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 1:34 PM | Report abuse

Palin is the hockey mom from hell.

Are Hockey Moms Grown In Hell?
What does it say about a person who jokes that lipstick is the only difference between herself and a pit bull… a dog known from multiple news reports for being unrelenting, uncontrollable and a deadly killer of children and people…?

http://healinganation.wordpress.com/

Posted by: tank | September 4, 2008 1:33 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin to Bristol Palin on teenage sex:


"Remember honey: if you want to avoid pregnancy take it in the ass or mouth, God doesn't see it when you do it there


SOUNDS MORE LIKE BILL CLINTON TO ME

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 1:33 PM | Report abuse

A new political star was born last night. Sarah Palin is a natural. Brilliant choice by John McCain.

What a joy it is to see the media and D.C. insiders caught by surprise.

The Wash Post and Sally Quinn(I am not a real journalist, I just shagged the old boss Ben Bradlee and I hate all women who are more successful than me, like Hillary and Sarah Palin) should be ashamed of their sexist coverage of Palin. Do any of you old farts actually think to ask a man, any man, say perhaps Barack, ANY questions about why he's running for President with two young children of his own? No, you don't ever do that. It's only WOMEN you attack. SEXISM LIVES!

Barack Obama has yet to be vetted. Bring it on.

A missed opportunity for the Democrats in failing women in 2008 and failing to nominate the most qualified and most electable candidate, Hillary Clinton who won the popular vote, winning MORE votes than ANY candidate of ANY party in history! Hillary Clinton should be the nominee. Now, the Dems are stuck with an unqualified and unelectable Obama/Biden. Damn.

For this Democrat, it's McCain 08 and Hillary 2012. Country first, party second.

Hold the DNC accountable for the 2008 campaign debacle. Hold the DNC accountable for the rampant sexism, racism, classism, voter disenfranschisement and subversion of democracy in 2008 by the DNC, Obama, and the media.

At least the GOP had the grace and political smarts to acknowledge the accomplishements of Hillary Clinton and Geraldine Ferraro. The DNC is too stupid to celebrate both Bill and Hillary Clinton and Geraldine Ferraro.

Missed opportunities indeed.

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Posted by: KJ | September 4, 2008 1:33 PM | Report abuse

I guess she energized things. And that's why she's on the ticket. If you doubt that, just take a look at the length of this string.

Posted by: genericrepub | September 4, 2008 1:33 PM | Report abuse

WOW, WOW, WOW. An amazing speech from a remarkable woman whom most of us had never heard of just a week ago. No wonder the Dems and liberal media have been attacking her ruthlessly and relentlessly since last Friday. She proved last night that they have a LOT to be worried about.

Posted by: Lee in VA | September 4, 2008 1:32 PM | Report abuse

Dems you can yell all you want, doesn't change the fact that your messiah, Obama, was EMASCULATED ON NATIONAL TV IN FRONT OF ABOUT 35 MILLION PEOPLE.

SARAH ROCKS!!!\

35 million? really ? I come to 20 million?
http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/08/28/nielsen-ratings-wednesday-august-27-nbc-still-talented-but/4822

Difficult is it to base your judgements on false facts ...

Posted by: HKY virginia | September 4, 2008 1:32 PM | Report abuse

i was completely disgusted by the drill baby drill chants.

By JIM KUHNHENN, Associated Press Writer
Wed Sep 3, 11:48 PM ET

Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin and her Republican supporters held back little Wednesday as they issued dismissive attacks on Barack Obama and flattering praise on her credentials to be vice president. In some cases, the reproach and the praise stretched the truth.


Some examples:

PALIN: "I have protected the taxpayers by vetoing wasteful spending ... and championed reform to end the abuses of earmark spending by Congress. I told the Congress 'thanks but no thanks' for that Bridge to Nowhere.
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THE FACTS: As mayor of Wasilla, Palin hired a lobbyist and traveled to Washington annually to support earmarks for the town totaling $27 million. In her two years as governor, Alaska has requested nearly $750 million in special federal spending, by far the largest per-capita request in the nation. While Palin notes she rejected plans to build a $398 million bridge from Ketchikan to an island with 50 residents and an airport, that opposition came only after the plan was ridiculed nationally as a "bridge to nowhere.
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PALIN: "There is much to like and admire about our opponent. But listening to him speak, it's easy to forget that this is a man who has authored two memoirs but not a single major law or reform — not even in the state senate.
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THE FACTS: Compared to McCain and his two decades in the Senate, Obama does have a more meager record. But he has worked with Republicans to pass legislation that expanded efforts to intercept illegal shipments of weapons of mass destruction and to help destroy conventional weapons stockpiles. The legislation became law last year. To demean that accomplishment would be to also demean the work of Republican Sen. Richard Lugar of Indiana, a respected foreign policy voice in the Senate. In Illinois, he was the leader on two big, contentious measures in Illinois: studying racial profiling by police and requiring recordings of interrogations in potential death penalty cases. He also successfully co-sponsored major ethics reform legislation.


PALIN: "The Democratic nominee for president supports plans to raise income taxes, raise payroll taxes, raise investment income taxes, raise the death tax, raise business taxes, and increase the tax burden on the American people by hundreds of billions of dollars.
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THE FACTS: The Tax Policy Center, a think tank run jointly by the Brookings Institution and the Urban Institute, concluded that Obama's plan would increase after-tax income for middle-income taxpayers by about 5 percent by 2012, or nearly $2,200 annually. McCain's plan, which cuts taxes across all income levels, would raise after tax-income for middle-income taxpayers by 3 percent, the center concluded.


Obama would provide $80 billion in tax breaks, mainly for poor workers and the elderly, including tripling the Earned Income Tax Credit for minimum-wage workers and higher credits for larger families.


He also would raise income taxes, capital gains and dividend taxes on the wealthiest. He would raise payroll taxes on taxpayers with incomes above $250,000, and he would raise corporate taxes. Small businesses that make more than $250,000 a year would see taxes rise.


MCCAIN: "She's been governor of our largest state, in charge of 20 percent of America's energy supply ... She's responsible for 20 percent of the nation's energy supply. I'm entertained by the comparison and I hope we can keep making that comparison that running a political campaign is somehow comparable to being the executive of the largest state in America," he said in an interview with ABC News' Charles Gibson.


THE FACTS: McCain's phrasing exaggerates both claims. Palin is governor of a state that ranks second nationally in crude oil production, but she's no more "responsible" for that resource than President Bush was when he was governor of Texas, another oil-producing state. In fact, her primary power is the ability to tax oil, which she did in concert with the Alaska Legislature. And where Alaska is the largest state in America, McCain could as easily have called it the 47th largest state — by population.


MCCAIN: "She's the commander of the Alaska National Guard. ... She has been in charge, and she has had national security as one of her primary responsibilities," he said on ABC.


THE FACTS: While governors are in charge of their state guard units, that authority ends whenever those units are called to actual military service. When guard units are deployed to Iraq or Afghanistan, for example, they assume those duties under "federal status," which means they report to the Defense Department, not their governors. Alaska's national guard units have a total of about 4,200 personnel, among the smallest of state guard organizations.


FORMER ARKANSAS GOV. MIKE HUCKABEE: Palin "got more votes running for mayor of Wasilla, Alaska than Joe Biden got running for president of the United States.
"

THE FACTS: A whopper. Palin got 616 votes in the 1996 mayor's election, and got 909 in her 1999 re-election race, for a total of 1,525. Biden dropped out of the race after the Iowa caucuses, but he still got 76,165 votes in 23 states and the District of Columbia where he was on the ballot during the 2008 presidential primaries.


FORMER MASSACHUSETTS GOV. MITT ROMNEY: "We need change, all right — change from a liberal Washington to a conservative Washington! We have a prescription for every American who wants change in Washington — throw out the big-government liberals, and elect John McCain and Sarah Palin.
"

THE FACTS: A Back-to-the-Future moment. George W. Bush, a conservative Republican, has been president for nearly eight years. And until last year, Republicans controlled Congress. Only since January 2007 have Democrats have been in charge of the House and Senate.


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Posted by: kheine | September 4, 2008 1:32 PM | Report abuse

She needs to be strapped to a rocket and shot into another galaxy. She's the worst of America, ignorant and paranoid. She and McCain are an express train to the stone age. China, India, Brazil, the EU will race past America in a dizzying blur.

She's a hardcore extremist, an American Taliban. Annihilation is the only answer. What a spineless scumbag McCain is too, it's like watching Invasion of the Body Snatchers witnessing the Christianist nutjobs have their way with him. Destroy them and destroy them utterly, they're vermin.

Posted by: h1000 | September 4, 2008 1:32 PM | Report abuse

""Only 36 of the 2,380 delegates seated on the convention floor are black, the lowest number since the Joint Center for Political and Economic Studies began tracking diversity at political conventions 40 years ago."

Pathetic.

Posted by: A white trash nominee for a white trash party | September 4, 2008 1:32 PM | Report abuse

First, I would like to point out that both conventions are a staged event. Second, I would like to say that Gov. Palin did an excellent job of giving her speech and pointing out the problems of the opposition, just as did Joe Biden. So, anyone who attacks the candidates as mean or nasty or dismissive is a blind fool with a set agenda...both side are to blame. Unfortuately, there are a lot of who fools out there.

Posted by: Josh | September 4, 2008 1:32 PM | Report abuse

OBAMA NEEDS SOME NEW RACE CARDS!

Now Obama has to figure out how to play on white guilt and racial preferences to smack down a mom with 5 kids, a blue collar husband and a real family with real problems.

How is he going to demand affirmative action, invoke white guilt and use the racial grievance mentality to demand she step aside so that social justice can be served to him, with his ivy league degrees and record of never having done anything for anyone other than himself? How to beat up a hockey mom for being white?

Such a quandry... He's going to have to go back to the race card store and get some new race cards that useless elite ivy league black guys can play against blue collar hockey moms.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 1:32 PM | Report abuse

Cheney is in Georgia now meeting with Mikheil Saakashvili.

Palin (who has only traveled abroad ONCE) would fly to Atlanta and wonder where she could find Sack-Cash-Filly.

Posted by: Harry Kim | September 4, 2008 1:31 PM | Report abuse

The chosen one has descended from the Tundra to save us all. With her vast experience, she could serve multiple posts in a McCain adminstration.

Sec. of State--Hey, her state is close to Russia.

Sec. of Defense/Chair of the Joint Chiefs of Staff--She has commanded the Alaska National Guard for over a year and a half.

Sec. of Education--She was a member of the PTA. What more could you want?

Director, DEA--She used to smoke pot. What more experience could she need?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 1:31 PM | Report abuse

Palin is the republicans secret weapon. She will win over many democratic working mothers who see politicians as Us and Them.The elitist male who does not know the problems of meeting ends meet. They see in her an advocate regardless of the negativity of the main line media.Watch the polls change!

Posted by: musing | September 4, 2008 1:30 PM | Report abuse

Asper Girl:

"first black" this and "first black" that?

What is heavens name are you talking about? If anything, Obama has played down his heritage. I don't know who you are listening to but you'd better go on line and get some facts. Also, Hillary Clinton has so much baggage the Republicans would have had a field day. Obama made the right decision and he will take care of our people and our country in a way the Republicans can't even understand.

Posted by: ossilot | September 4, 2008 1:30 PM | Report abuse

http://www.thepresidentialcandidates.us/about-sarah-palin-a-letter-from-anne-kilkenny/741/


She inherited a city with zero debt, but left it with indebtedness of over $22 million. What did Mayor Palin encourage the voters to borrow money for? Was it the infrastructure that she said she supported? The sewage treatment plant that the city lacked? or a new library? No. $1m for a park. $15m-plus for construction of a multi-use sports complex which she rushed through to build on a piece of property that the City didn’t even have clear title to, that was still in litigation 7 yrs later–to the delight of the lawyers involved! The sports complex itself is a nice addition to the community but a huge money pit, not the profit-generator she claimed it would be. She also supported bonds for $5.5m for road projects that could have been done in 5-7 yrs without any borrowing.

Posted by: Palin is theGOP's Ahmadinejad | September 4, 2008 1:30 PM | Report abuse

I feel her speech was not that good. It was too mechanical. Besides vicious personal attacks she did not say much. It seemed as if she was reading the whole time. Overall I would say it was an average speech.

Posted by: Jim | September 4, 2008 1:30 PM | Report abuse

For the first time in my life, I am proud to be an Alaskan

Posted by: Moosejaw | September 4, 2008 1:29 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin ROCKS!
This is going to be a GREAT presidency!
Except THIS time, with a REAL republican!
8 more years!!!!!
8 more years!!!!!
8 more years!!!!!
8 more years!!!!!

Posted by: Don | September 4, 2008 1:29 PM | Report abuse

" AsperGirl, your dru-unk
AsperGirl, your lame
AsperGirl, I would feel sorry for you
but AsperGirl, your all thinky an sh*t

Too much Budweiser, too many girls
Too many std's, too many bad acid tripz
with too many sailors, on 2 many ships
more hands up your dress than a muppet

some people think with their hearts
but you just think with your crotch
there isn't enough scotch
to help me justify your mind..."

Posted by: Beau Geste | September 4, 2008 1:28 PM | Report abuse

The "BAREFOOT AND IN THE KITCHEN" OLD BOY Democrats have something to worry about. They will try to 'CLINTON' her as well.

Posted by: Michael | September 4, 2008 1:27 PM | Report abuse

Now Obama has to figure out how to pull use white guilt and racial preferences to smack down a mom with 5 kids, a blue collar husband and a real family with real problems.

How is he going to demand affirmative action, invoke white guilt and use the racial grievance mentality to demand she step aside so that social justice can be served to him, with his ivy league degrees and record of never having done anything for anyone other than himself?

Such a quandry... He's going to have to go back to the race card store and get some new race cards that useless elite ivy league black guys can play against blue collar hockey moms to beat them up with.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 4, 2008 1:26 PM | Report abuse

At last we have, in Sarah Palin, America's answer to Iran's Ahmadinejad! A rabid rottweiler in religious garb whose cult embraces Armageddon with righteous enthusiasm. Just add a president with a notorious anger-management problem and a nuclear trigger and both Palin and Ahmadinejad will get exactly what they seem to so fervently desire.

Posted by: GO | September 4, 2008 1:26 PM | Report abuse

For a woman who just got her passport last year, I think was the right mix of mean and annoying.

Lets see how she does away from the podium without a Karl Rove-like prepared speech.

Obama had the same task and has proven himself...Sarah Palin--so far--has not.

Posted by: John | September 4, 2008 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin to Bristol Palin on teenage sex:


"Remember honey: if you want to avoid pregnancy take it in the ass or mouth, God doesn't see it when you do it there."

Posted by: Republican Teenage Sex Advice | September 4, 2008 1:25 PM | Report abuse


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Even after her outstanding speech at the convention, the democrat misogynists continue attacking Palin like rabid dogs with the same savagery they used on Hillary. As before, they are being supported 100% by the liberal media, led by msnbc with their chief woman-hater and tax cheat, the deeply disturbed Oedipus olbermann.

This slimebag behavior shows that the loony-left has NOTHING OF SUBSTANCE to OFFER - just smears and hysterical mud-slinging.

The "God D@#! America (and Women)" crowd is as pathetic as it gets.

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Posted by: ALEX H. | September 4, 2008 1:24 PM | Report abuse


A hot politician blowing kisses??

Do NOT underestimate this woman!

If Hillary blew me a kiss, I'd throw up....

Posted by: blowinkisses | September 4, 2008 1:24 PM | Report abuse

america deserves better than this woman. she was mean, spiteful and sarcastic. she said nothing inspirational or uplifting. senator obama has consistently said, "senator mccain served our country and deserves our respect". i'd like to see the republicans offer barack just a little bit of respect in return. now, that would be a real change.

Posted by: laura | September 4, 2008 1:23 PM | Report abuse

Palin is a typical Republican: a hypocrite who doesn't care about anyone else or society at large. It's all about her power and pocketbook.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 1:22 PM | Report abuse

Drill!!!! Drill!!! Drill!!! Drill!!! Sarah Palin has my vote!!! I’m another dumb American. Not to mention my son is going to war in Iraq that was a lie...Freaking Retards... All of them!!!!

Posted by: Cheney-DICK | September 4, 2008 1:22 PM | Report abuse

HOPE CHANGE HOPE CHANGE HOPE CHANGE HOPE CHANGE HOPE CHANGE HOPE CHANGE HOPE CHANGE HOPE CHANGE HOPE CHANGE HOPE CHANGE

Hello, who is this? Sarah Palin? A new rising star?

yesterday's star yesterday's star yesterday's star old news old news old news old news old news dead fad dead fad dead fad dead fad passe passe passe passe passe passe passe passe passe passe passe toast toast toast toast toast toast toast toast

"Man if I weren't such a self-obsessed sexist I couda picked Hillary"

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 4, 2008 1:21 PM | Report abuse

This is a letter written by a woman who lived under three Palin administrations. This should be front page news.


http://www.thepresidentialcandidates.us/about-sarah-palin-a-letter-from-anne-kilkenny/741/

Posted by: Cozella | September 4, 2008 1:21 PM | Report abuse

Be afraid, Dems, be very afraid...

Posted by: ob | September 4, 2008 1:21 PM | Report abuse

What is really remarkable is that, with Palin, the parties have switched images. Obama reflects nothing but monied entitlement, ineffectively overblown rhetoric, True Believer zealots and the innate divisiveness we have seen for the past eight years in the GOP.

Sarah Palin is the plain can do, mom knows how to fix it grit that used to be emblematic of Democratic Populism.

And guess what, Karl Rove likely had a hand in selecting both. His friendship with Donna Brazile very probably made sure of that. How many Rasputins have ever gotten to rig both sides of a ballot?
You are about to be Rove-gamed for the third time.

Rove Rules:Pragmatism always trumps rhetoric.
And in times of crisis, the stressed invariably skew to the familiar.

Tough luck democrats. You foisted an unelectable candidate onto the ticket at the cost of turning a great many of us into independents. We've been and gone because you caved to factional interests and ignored the most qualified.

Bloggers here can rant on about how inexperienced Palin is but she actually has more practical qualifications than Obama.

The bottom line truth is neither of them are suited for this job. And every citizen is precisely aware of this in their choosing. And now they are aware that they can either pick an inexperienced but very imperial Presidential Candidate that no one in any small-town can or wants to relate to or go for the likable scrappy mom next door to become vice-president.

Which do you think they are going to want to end up with- the Chicago-machine lifetime grant-grabber or their neighbor?
When we who used to be Democrats kept saying this is not a good idea, what did you think we meant.

Not happy with this woman?
Tough luck. You could have had as the woman in question Hillary Clinton. Sarah Palin instead is your very own fault.

How you think the same people who voted for Bush twice rather than accept Gore Dean or Kerry are going to choose Obama over Palin --because that is how it is going to play-- is maybe the only interesting question left in this election. There are a lot more of them than the Obagullible. It's a majority election.

I am not voting for either one. But everyone else won't be voting for someone who is iconic of party division and the urban-rural disparity of interests.

Obama has nothing to offer but an image of privileged entitlement and yet more words. The GOP just offered us each other. Brilliant.

McCain sold his soul to Karl Rove and the Devil has just delivered.
Suckers.

-gala1

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 1:21 PM | Report abuse

Liked the fact she went after Sen. Obama with a brass knuckle. Now, Sen. O supporters will deter Gov. Palin and her supporters from exposing the holes in his underpants by call her racist, sarcastic, witch, mean spirited, etc..

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 1:20 PM | Report abuse

I see the Republicans using the same old Karl Rove scare tactic.

PALIN: "I have protected the taxpayers by vetoing wasteful spending ... and championed reform to end the abuses of earmark spending by Congress. I told the Congress 'thanks but no thanks' for that Bridge to Nowhere."

THE FACTS: As mayor of Wasilla, Palin hired a lobbyist and traveled to Washington annually to support earmarks for the town totaling $27 million. In her two years as governor, Alaska has requested nearly $750 million in special federal spending, by far the largest per-capita request in the nation. While Palin notes she rejected plans to build a $398 million bridge from Ketchikan to an island with 50 residents and an airport, that opposition came only after the plan was ridiculed nationally as a "bridge to nowhere."

Posted by: Jeff | September 4, 2008 1:20 PM | Report abuse

After reading the attached comments I only have one thing to say, Please read Article I and Acricle II of our Constitution. First I would agree that majority of the problems that we have currently should be placed on the feet of the Legislature not Executive branch of goverment. As per the Republican ticket I may not agree with all its policis but it may bring us closer to what the federal goverment is their for. The Democratic ticket is indicating change but their policies indicate more of the same and further diversion from what the Founding Fathers strived for. My only request to all citizens is read the constitution, look at each parties policies and vote, otherwise please keep your opions to yourself and be quite.

Posted by: Carl | September 4, 2008 1:19 PM | Report abuse

The only reason that Palin was choosen was to spite Obama because he did not choose Clinton as his VP running mate. Obama has a mind of his own and chose the best person for the position. Just because McCain was in the service (and I appreciate that) and a prisoner of war does not qualify to be the president. Palin has got to be the dummest mom on earth. Why in four blue moons is she making her daughter marry this guy just because she is pregnant. I bet the marriage will not last 2 months and if it does it will not be because they are happy. The boy does not want to be married he was just getting a little piece and they failed to protect themselves. I bet now he is saying that little piece was not worth it. Palin the real world is to accept the baby and go on with life. We already have a high divorce rate.

Posted by: Concerned Citizen, MD | September 4, 2008 1:19 PM | Report abuse

Diane72- Thanks for reminding us of the GOP's little "secret": racisim. Case in point: A long time friend of mine has a brother who is a minor potentate in the GOP machine in a small rural eastern state. He told my friend that he would never vote for a "N_____". BTW, I suppose Sarah Palin, who described the Alaska Iron Dog race with the memorable "It'll shake the snot 'outta ya!" would be a better guest at a state dinner for the queen? And how about decorating the VP mansion with hunting trophies? Metropolitan Home, look out!

Posted by: medic 481 | September 4, 2008 1:19 PM | Report abuse

I think that for a person introducing herself for the first time on the national stage she should have shown at least a shred of humility.

She basically talked about herself (understood), criticized Obama and then talked about what a great person McCain is.

She really didn't talk about any real plans to help Americans, instead she gave the base their red meat.

She came off as being sarcastic, presumptuous, and a self-absorbed attack-dog.

She lost her "victim" status and now is a "target".

When her speech ended I laughed out loud "THAT was her speech?, ha, ha, ha, ha ..."

They should have let her write it herself.

Posted by: JR | September 4, 2008 1:17 PM | Report abuse

Barrack Obama's Conscience,

Bravo, Barracks words and conscience ring so true and your eloquence of the facts just shot a dagger in the heart of liberals everywhere.

Posted by: sp6 | September 4, 2008 1:16 PM | Report abuse

By JIM KUHNHENN, Associated Press Writer
Wed Sep 3, 11:48 PM ET


ST. PAUL, Minn. - Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin and her Republican supporters held back little Wednesday as they issued dismissive attacks on Barack Obama and flattering praise on her credentials to be vice president. In some cases, the reproach and the praise stretched the truth.

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Some examples:

PALIN: "I have protected the taxpayers by vetoing wasteful spending ... and championed reform to end the abuses of earmark spending by Congress. I told the Congress 'thanks but no thanks' for that Bridge to Nowhere."

THE FACTS: As mayor of Wasilla, Palin hired a lobbyist and traveled to Washington annually to support earmarks for the town totaling $27 million. In her two years as governor, Alaska has requested nearly $750 million in special federal spending, by far the largest per-capita request in the nation. While Palin notes she rejected plans to build a $398 million bridge from Ketchikan to an island with 50 residents and an airport, that opposition came only after the plan was ridiculed nationally as a "bridge to nowhere."

PALIN: "There is much to like and admire about our opponent. But listening to him speak, it's easy to forget that this is a man who has authored two memoirs but not a single major law or reform — not even in the state senate."

THE FACTS: Compared to McCain and his two decades in the Senate, Obama does have a more meager record. But he has worked with Republicans to pass legislation that expanded efforts to intercept illegal shipments of weapons of mass destruction and to help destroy conventional weapons stockpiles. The legislation became law last year. To demean that accomplishment would be to also demean the work of Republican Sen. Richard Lugar of Indiana, a respected foreign policy voice in the Senate. In Illinois, he was the leader on two big, contentious measures in Illinois: studying racial profiling by police and requiring recordings of interrogations in potential death penalty cases. He also successfully co-sponsored major ethics reform legislation.

PALIN: "The Democratic nominee for president supports plans to raise income taxes, raise payroll taxes, raise investment income taxes, raise the death tax, raise business taxes, and increase the tax burden on the American people by hundreds of billions of dollars."

THE FACTS: The Tax Policy Center, a think tank run jointly by the Brookings Institution and the Urban Institute, concluded that Obama's plan would increase after-tax income for middle-income taxpayers by about 5 percent by 2012, or nearly $2,200 annually. McCain's plan, which cuts taxes across all income levels, would raise after tax-income for middle-income taxpayers by 3 percent, the center concluded.

Obama would provide $80 billion in tax breaks, mainly for poor workers and the elderly, including tripling the Earned Income Tax Credit for minimum-wage workers and higher credits for larger families.

He also would raise income taxes, capital gains and dividend taxes on the wealthiest. He would raise payroll taxes on taxpayers with incomes above $250,000, and he would raise corporate taxes. Small businesses that make more than $250,000 a year would see taxes rise.

MCCAIN: "She's been governor of our largest state, in charge of 20 percent of America's energy supply ... She's responsible for 20 percent of the nation's energy supply. I'm entertained by the comparison and I hope we can keep making that comparison that running a political campaign is somehow comparable to being the executive of the largest state in America," he said in an interview with ABC News' Charles Gibson.

THE FACTS: McCain's phrasing exaggerates both claims. Palin is governor of a state that ranks second nationally in crude oil production, but she's no more "responsible" for that resource than President Bush was when he was governor of Texas, another oil-producing state. In fact, her primary power is the ability to tax oil, which she did in concert with the Alaska Legislature. And where Alaska is the largest state in America, McCain could as easily have called it the 47th largest state — by population.

MCCAIN: "She's the commander of the Alaska National Guard. ... She has been in charge, and she has had national security as one of her primary responsibilities," he said on ABC.

THE FACTS: While governors are in charge of their state guard units, that authority ends whenever those units are called to actual military service. When guard units are deployed to Iraq or Afghanistan, for example, they assume those duties under "federal status," which means they report to the Defense Department, not their governors. Alaska's national guard units have a total of about 4,200 personnel, among the smallest of state guard organizations.

FORMER ARKANSAS GOV. MIKE HUCKABEE: Palin "got more votes running for mayor of Wasilla, Alaska than Joe Biden got running for president of the United States."

THE FACTS: A whopper. Palin got 616 votes in the 1996 mayor's election, and got 909 in her 1999 re-election race, for a total of 1,525. Biden dropped out of the race after the Iowa caucuses, but he still got 76,165 votes in 23 states and the District of Columbia where he was on the ballot during the 2008 presidential primaries.

FORMER MASSACHUSETTS GOV. MITT ROMNEY: "We need change, all right — change from a liberal Washington to a conservative Washington! We have a prescription for every American who wants change in Washington — throw out the big-government liberals, and elect John McCain and Sarah Palin."

THE FACTS: A Back-to-the-Future moment. George W. Bush, a conservative Republican, has been president for nearly eight years. And until last year, Republicans controlled Congress. Only since January 2007 have Democrats have been in charge of the House and Senate.

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Just a few words in rebuttal from AP Enjoy!!!!

Posted by: Pat Smith | September 4, 2008 1:16 PM | Report abuse

People hurl insults on here without fact-checking. Before anyone else comments about how she had a script writer, look at the truth. She struck down most of the written speech, defaulted to more of her Dayton speech material, and the teleprompter went way too far ahead (not stopping with audience applause), and she did almost 50% of her speech without using it.
She listed past accomplishment. I would take that (as someone who fact checks and sees her accomplishments as legitimate) over someone else who gives promise after promise but has no resume to back up his competence. So no, she didn't have to woo me with big dreams, good speech writer or not. She only had to state her ability and competency through past experience.

Posted by: Charla | September 4, 2008 1:15 PM | Report abuse

Consider this... Gov Palin's critique of Obama and Biden "lack of executive expreience" is EQUALLY TRUE FOR THE OTHER SENATOR...MCAIN! Never a CEO, Governor, Mayor...not even a military leader, just a "top gun" loner.
Jimbo

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 1:15 PM | Report abuse

She'll fit right in with the GOP which has become the Party of Corrupt Liars, Manipulators and Thieves. Bush/McSame have that in common - they manage to attract liars and crooks in droves to the trough.

Posted by: nighthawksoars | September 4, 2008 1:15 PM | Report abuse

>>tiredofdumbasses wrote: "Listen, dumbass, Obama doesn't "write" his own speeches in that he sits tapping away at a keyboard . He does, however, have a writing staff that takes the points he wants to make and then cobbles together into a draft that Obama reads, suggests changes to and so on until completed to his satisfaction."

So even though this is the rhetorical candidate who's never done any tangible work with his ivy league law degree, but is a great speechifier, even he doesn't write his own speeches! I thought that he had at least one original skill! But apparently he doesn't even write speeches for himself, in his career of speech-man.

LOL!

At least Susan Palin, who also doesn't write her own speeches (like every other national-stage politician), does things other than just give great speeches to account for her time and talent.

She does a lot of things other than just give speeches, unlike Obama.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 4, 2008 1:15 PM | Report abuse


She's hot.

McCain got the hottest high school cheerleader to go to the prom with him.

Life isn't LIKE high school, people.

Life IS high school.

It never ceases to amaze me how intelligent people never seem to grasp this.

Posted by: obamaCFR | September 4, 2008 1:14 PM | Report abuse

Gov. S. Palin won me over!

Posted by: arthur barbato | September 4, 2008 1:14 PM | Report abuse

Everyone is so ready to applaud Palin's debut speech and I will say that was delivered with art and enthusiasm, but it was written a week before she was even picked. So what does that say about Palin? She can read well??
Obama actually wrote his own speech and spoke from his heart. I commend Palin in all of her accomplishments however, who is Sarah Palin? She went on the attack about Obama's experience, what she should have been talking about is what type of change she and McCain will bring. Since she came out of her corner swinging, I hope she is prepared to hit back..
The sad part is when the Democrats hit back, and they are, the Republicans are gonna scream she is being treated unfairly because she is a woman..

Posted by: Rhandi | September 4, 2008 1:13 PM | Report abuse

Country is divided and this is what we expect in a free democracy!! We all have our own bias, and views on how things should be done. We all have our own fallacies and short comings. These four guys have put their life in lime light and they expect this type of scrutiny, and criticism and poking and proding. But in the end we will have the best persons for the Job. Whether it is Bill or George, it is us the American people will have to endure their weaknesses. Better find whatever we can but once the election is over support the person and trust his/her judgement. Because rest assured they have the information more than you and I will ever have, and they have their legacy in mind. Ultimately that is what they live for. Because more vitriole we carry worse of we would be.

Posted by: Thoughtful | September 4, 2008 1:13 PM | Report abuse

There a few mimbos around that will vote for McCain/Palin. A mimbo is a male bimbo that will vote for Palin because he thinks she is hot, it is the same as the bimbos that voted for John Edwards because they thought he was cute.

Posted by: Scott | September 4, 2008 1:13 PM | Report abuse

Someone in the press needs to ask her the following question: "Gov. Palin, what are your thoughts on past reports that Sen. McCain called his wife a c*nt?"

Posted by: Thorn | September 4, 2008 1:12 PM | Report abuse

A "hockey mom is a pit bull with lipstick?" Is this silliness supposed to convince us that she's the right--no pun intended--person to assume Presidential responsbilities if so called upon? She unmasked herself as a sneering, divisive siren of the Christian Right. I'm anxious to hear her ideas about repairing a broken economy, fixing the mortgage mess, making healthcare affordable. She impugned Barack Obama's willingness to meet with foreign enemies. She implied that she'd be happier hitting the nuclear codes first rather than engage in a dialog aimed at heading off a genuine nuclear crisis. John McCain should be ashamed of himself for foisting this political naif upon us.

Posted by: Alan | September 4, 2008 1:11 PM | Report abuse

dumbass, you know that this is how things work how?

"How many of you people that say she just "read" a speech written for her, thinks that Obama or any political figure writes their own speeches? All of them have writers!!"

Posted by: tiredofstupidpeople | September 4, 2008 12:34 PM

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Listen, dumbass, Obama doesn't "write" his own speeches in that he sits tapping away at a keyboard . He does, however, have a writing staff that takes the points he wants to make and then cobbles together into a draft that Obama reads, suggests changes to and so on until completed to his satisfaction.

Palin, on the other hand, was just regurgitating the pablum that had been spoonfed to her through the teleprompter. Pablum that she had no hand in creating. Pablum that had, in fact, been written a fullweek prior. See the difference?

Posted by: tiredofdumbasses | September 4, 2008 1:05 PM

You have no idea (or do I) how much either one has contributed to their speeches! But for you to say he does it this way she she doesn't shows who the true dumbass is

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 1:11 PM | Report abuse

FRom YAHOO's front page (not some left wing spot)
Attacks, praise stretch truth at GOP convention
By JIM KUHNHENN, Associated Press Writer Wed Sep 3, 11:48 PM ET
ST. PAUL, Minn. - Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin and her Republican supporters held back little Wednesday as they issued dismissive attacks on Barack Obama and flattering praise on her credentials to be vice president. In some cases, the reproach and the praise stretched the truth.

PALIN: "I have protected the taxpayers by vetoing wasteful spending ... and championed reform to end the abuses of earmark spending by Congress. I told the Congress 'thanks but no thanks' for that Bridge to Nowhere."
THE FACTS: As mayor of Wasilla, Palin hired a lobbyist and traveled to Washington annually to support earmarks for the town totaling $27 million. In her two years as governor, Alaska has requested nearly $750 million in special federal spending, by far the largest per-capita request in the nation. While Palin notes she rejected plans to build a $398 million bridge from Ketchikan to an island with 50 residents and an airport, that opposition came only after the plan was ridiculed nationally as a "bridge to nowhere."
PALIN: "There is much to like and admire about our opponent. But listening to him speak, it's easy to forget that this is a man who has authored two memoirs but not a single major law or reform — not even in the state senate."
THE FACTS: Compared to McCain and his two decades in the Senate, Obama does have a more meager record. But he has worked with Republicans to pass legislation that expanded efforts to intercept illegal shipments of weapons of mass destruction and to help destroy conventional weapons stockpiles. The legislation became law last year. To demean that accomplishment would be to also demean the work of Republican Sen. Richard Lugar of Indiana, a respected foreign policy voice in the Senate. In Illinois, he was the leader on two big, contentious measures in Illinois: studying racial profiling by police and requiring recordings of interrogations in potential death penalty cases. He also successfully co-sponsored major ethics reform legislation.
PALIN: "The Democratic nominee for president supports plans to raise income taxes, raise payroll taxes, raise investment income taxes, raise the death tax, raise business taxes, and increase the tax burden on the American people by hundreds of billions of dollars."
THE FACTS: The Tax Policy Center, a think tank run jointly by the Brookings Institution and the Urban Institute, concluded that Obama's plan would increase after-tax income for middle-income taxpayers by about 5 percent by 2012, or nearly $2,200 annually. McCain's plan, which cuts taxes across all income levels, would raise after tax-income for middle-income taxpayers by 3 percent, the center concluded.
Obama would provide $80 billion in tax breaks, mainly for poor workers and the elderly, including tripling the Earned Income Tax Credit for minimum-wage workers and higher credits for larger families.
He also would raise income taxes, capital gains and dividend taxes on the wealthiest. He would raise payroll taxes on taxpayers with incomes above $250,000, and he would raise corporate taxes. Small businesses that make more than $250,000 a year would see taxes rise.
MCCAIN: "She's been governor of our largest state, in charge of 20 percent of America's energy supply ... She's responsible for 20 percent of the nation's energy supply. I'm entertained by the comparison and I hope we can keep making that comparison that running a political campaign is somehow comparable to being the executive of the largest state in America," he said in an interview with ABC News' Charles Gibson.
THE FACTS: McCain's phrasing exaggerates both claims. Palin is governor of a state that ranks second nationally in crude oil production, but she's no more "responsible" for that resource than President Bush was when he was governor of Texas, another oil-producing state. In fact, her primary power is the ability to tax oil, which she did in concert with the Alaska Legislature. And where Alaska is the largest state in America, McCain could as easily have called it the 47th largest state — by population.
MCCAIN: "She's the commander of the Alaska National Guard. ... She has been in charge, and she has had national security as one of her primary responsibilities," he said on ABC.
THE FACTS: While governors are in charge of their state guard units, that authority ends whenever those units are called to actual military service. When guard units are deployed to Iraq or Afghanistan, for example, they assume those duties under "federal status," which means they report to the Defense Department, not their governors. Alaska's national guard units have a total of about 4,200 personnel, among the smallest of state guard organizations.
FORMER ARKANSAS GOV. MIKE HUCKABEE: Palin "got more votes running for mayor of Wasilla, Alaska than Joe Biden got running for president of the United States."
THE FACTS: A whopper. Palin got 616 votes in the 1996 mayor's election, and got 909 in her 1999 re-election race, for a total of 1,525. Biden dropped out of the race after the Iowa caucuses, but he still got 76,165 votes in 23 states and the District of Columbia where he was on the ballot during the 2008 presidential primaries.
FORMER MASSACHUSETTS GOV. MITT ROMNEY: "We need change, all right — change from a liberal Washington to a conservative Washington! We have a prescription for every American who wants change in Washington — throw out the big-government liberals, and elect John McCain and Sarah Palin."
THE FACTS: A Back-to-the-Future moment. George W. Bush, a conservative Republican, has been president for nearly eight years. And until last year, Republicans controlled Congress. Only since January 2007 have Democrats have been in charge of the House and Senate.

Posted by: Sheridan1 | September 4, 2008 1:11 PM | Report abuse

Since when did issues become irrelevant? What a breathtaking thing to say....
These awful people need to be called out for their raging hypocrisy and for not articulating any kind of plan to help the economy, repair our moral standing in the world, end the war in Iraq, capture Bin Laden (remember him?), fix our broken health care system, or eliminate our dependence on oil.
Those pesky issues again.

Posted by: jeffc | September 4, 2008 1:11 PM | Report abuse

I agree with Joe Biden on this absolutely. Sarah Palin gave the “Speech That Did Not Tell”. The GOP wants to hide from common sense middle America, Palin’s views on ending abortion rights even for rape and incest, teaching creationism side by side with evolution as “science”, her views on gay rights, her views on universal healthcare, and social security and most importantly her view that it was God’s will that we pre-emptively attack Iraq. In fact this lady’s religious views are so fundamentalist and absolutist, we might as well out source the VP position to the Taliban.

Posted by: Madeleine | September 4, 2008 1:11 PM | Report abuse

Palin is a perfect fit for the GOP values voters. She fits the narrative of an-out of towner taking on Washington. She is what John McCain is not...a darling of the base, young, and able to read a teleprompter.

Palin is also not John McCain in her grasp of foreign policy, knowledge of which levers to work in the halls of power. Nor is she conversant in nationwide energy policy beyond specifics of oil. And I don't think she has a health care plan, but then neither does McCain.

Which brings me to my point. Palin is an asset to McCain's campaign, but she will do far less to help him in office than any one of a dozen other contenders. That makes me question whether McCain does put America first.

Palin also hasn't passed the commander-in-chief test, let alone taken it. Find me one position she's taken (prior to 8-29-08) on foreign policy. The best I could come up with was she didn't think much about Iraq and hoped we had a plan.

Posted by: Ceee | September 4, 2008 1:10 PM | Report abuse

Hey wakeup, you really think Palin is attractive?!
So, I guess you would be attracted to Hitler too, if he was a woman who looked hot?
Sorry, but first of all, Palin is not all that physically good looking, unless her competition is limited to other politicians on the national stage. And secondly, looks is only part of attractiveness.
Perhaps I was shallow enough to be attracted to someone just based on their looks when I was an ignorant youngin, but as I matured, I discovered that beauty is far more than what is skin deep.
And, this woman is about as ugly as one can get once you get beneath that redneck dermis covering her body. In fact, she is downright hideous. If she gives you a woodie, I shudder for you.

Posted by: Richard from Brooklyn Fuhgedaboutit | September 4, 2008 1:10 PM | Report abuse

Ryan wrote:
Lastly, the dismissive laughter from the arena when both Palin and Rudy spoke about Obama's community organizing was incredible insensitive. It was demeaning to every person who works to make the community better - organizers, faith-based charities, and the clergy.

Obama's campaign and the Democrats have spoken dismissively about Palin's small town background and service as a small town Mayor. Is that supposed to be uplifting to the majority of Americans, who actually live in small towns, and small town mayors?

Not a little biased are you?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 1:10 PM | Report abuse

Dems you can yell all you want, doesn't change the fact that your messiah, Obama, was EMASCULATED ON NATIONAL TV IN FRONT OF ABOUT 35 MILLION PEOPLE.

SARAH ROCKS!!!

Posted by: Tony B, Ohio | September 4, 2008 1:09 PM | Report abuse

Do we really care about our country anymore? I don't care if you're republican or democrat, expect more! Our campaign for President of the United States is a joke. What is Palin going to do to help McCain govern? How is the fact that some of her strong points oppose McCain policy? Why don't we hear more about the issues from the Republican Convention? Where in this convention has the party put 'country first', or even laid out a specific plan on how they are going to put the country first? Is this what our political process has come to? With the exact same resume, would Palin have been tapped if she was a man? Of course not. McCain's first major case for judgment, and he did not put country first, he put his campaign first.

Posted by: 'Country First'??? | September 4, 2008 1:07 PM | Report abuse

It's sad to read how so many people believe that Obama and Palin should be compared to each other as far as experience. Obama is going against McCain for the Presidency, NOT Gov Palin. (Not mentioning that her experience makes Obama look like a scout leader). McCain has the experience we need, at a time in our history when we really need experience. Can we afford to let our President do on-the-job training when what we need is a leader. It is also funny to hear how people complain that the Republicans are only for tax-cuts for the rich and businesses. Who do these people think are the ones who open businesses and create jobs for others to fill. What good is it to possibly have a little tax break for the middle-class and higher taxes for the rich when these middle-class people do not have a job in order to have taxes taken out? Get your head out of the sandbox and start thinking beyond a 3rd grade level.

Posted by: DJohnston | September 4, 2008 1:07 PM | Report abuse

Some think she's a saint; I am far less awed; in fact I see right through her: she's a fraud. Wm.Shakespeare Underneath all the makeup and dye, I think she's a blond.
However, it is amazing the tensile strength and the pull of a public hair; no wonder McCain got sucked into this farce.

Posted by: Noel Freedman | September 4, 2008 1:07 PM | Report abuse

Concerned Citizen, I believe you are "in your own words" DUMB ASS, STUPID AND IGNORANT, Goerge Bush isn't running for office

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 1:07 PM | Report abuse

"How many of you people that say she just "read" a speech written for her, thinks that Obama or any political figure writes their own speeches? All of them have writers!!"

Posted by: tiredofstupidpeople | September 4, 2008 12:34 PM

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Listen, dumbass, Obama doesn't "write" his own speeches in that he sits tapping away at a keyboard . He does, however, have a writing staff that takes the points he wants to make and then cobbles together into a draft that Obama reads, suggests changes to and so on until completed to his satisfaction.

Palin, on the other hand, was just regurgitating the pablum that had been spoonfed to her through the teleprompter. Pablum that she had no hand in creating. Pablum that had, in fact, been written a fullweek prior. See the difference?

Posted by: tiredofdumbasses | September 4, 2008 1:05 PM | Report abuse


Because she was chosen as much for the ‘historic’ nature of her gender as she was for her ‘Conservative Christian’ credentials, the charge of "Sexism" can now being hurled at ANY and ALL of the MSM's 'vetting' of Gov. Palin. And also, distract the public and squelch the ‘news’ of Senator McCain's 'snap decision’ to make her his VP choice.

An extra bonus of the ‘vetting’ or treatment from the BIG, Bad Liberal (now Left Wing) media is that the McCain campaign can now use this supposed 'bias' as their ongoing excuse to hide their VP nominee, Palin, from any 'hardball' questioning or interviews until after the election.

The 'real' leaders of the Republican Party are more Machiavellian or duplicitous in their treatment of America and Americans than Niccolo di Bernardo dei Machiavelli himself by irresponsibly foisting on the country an unknown for the office of the Vice President with little to no vetting.

Another Rovian Playbook tactic, turn your candidate's weakness on Domestic and Foreign policy, into a plus by 'demonizing' the big, bad Media, so Sarah won't have to "Face the Nation" because she is just "People", cannot say she is one of "US" (Weekly) though, because they were ‘biased’ in their coverage of her, too.

We'll soon see how much the National Enquirer has Gov. Palin ‘cold’ on though. It may be the 'worst' case of "Northern Exposure" yet.

Too bad it was the McCain campaign’s own ‘response’ to the Enquirer’s story that actually made more people, and not their normal readership, aware of it.

Cannot wait to see how the McCain campaign contorts their narrative on their ‘pushback’ mistake to make it ALL about the BIG, bad media and not about either Gov. Palin or themselves.

We couldn't have the campaign do what they want American public to do, which is take some responsibility themselves.


Posted by: Dari | September 4, 2008 1:04 PM | Report abuse

after all the bad the republicican party has spewed on the American citizens, I am supprised anyone no matter how stupid they are would vote for another republican. This women ( Palin )was selected because she has tits and Mcshort arms thought it would help bring Hillaries supporters over to his side. After 8 years of Bush, I honestly hope America doesn't elect another republican president for a hundred years or more.

Posted by: Josepht | September 4, 2008 1:04 PM | Report abuse

I would like to see the honorable Sarah Palin go toe-to-toe with knappy headed Michelle Shaniqua Obama. Michelle Shaniqua is far too ghetto and an affirmative action wannabe to be in the White House. The woman is so tacky that her bra strap was showing when she spoke at the convention last week.

Posted by: Dianne72 | September 4, 2008 1:04 PM | Report abuse

I find this woman appalling (and not just because vagina is EEEEWWWWYYY!). My partner and I were riding down the street in our Prius when the speech came on. He was so horrified by her remarks (and those hideous...chi...child...I can't say it!), that he jerked my head right out of his lap and screamed! I tried to cover my dog's ears so he wouldn't have to hear the abominable words! Obama is our man! He once confessed that he tried homosexual relations, and for the first time, we have a truly bipartisan campaign: candidates on both sides like d_ck.

Posted by: San Fran Man | September 4, 2008 1:03 PM | Report abuse

For all of you who like the current situation that we are in in this country then you are really some DUMB ASS, STUPID AND IGNORANT people. For the past eight years George Bush has run this country into the ground. People are struggling to eat a meal, to purchase medical needs, to just survive with the very basics. I keep hearing about educating our children but they are not being given the tools to perform. My child had to share a text book in school and was not allowed to take the book home because there is not enough for each child to take home to study. How is that suppose to work. How is it that all of this money can go overseas but the school system can't seem to get a penny. You people better wake up and smell the smoke because if the republicans get back in office, this country is going to sink to the bottom of the food chain. The candidates really need to start talking about issues that are going to help us as citizens of the U.S. to survive.

Posted by: Concerned Citizen, MD | September 4, 2008 1:03 PM | Report abuse


Obama stated VERY clearly that his plan would to be to LOWER taxes for 95% of the people, and remove tax breaks for those that make over $250k a year.

So, to me, that means that middle class people will NOT have their taxes raised, but will have them LOWERED.

Look at the text of Obama's speech. I can only hope that the Dems pounce on this in ads throughout the country - pointing out the lies from the McSame camp, etc.

Go Obama!

Posted by: Obama taxes | September 4, 2008 1:03 PM | Report abuse

I want to here and now profusely thank Sarah Palin for her speech last night. She was very clear in her thoughts, and effective in her delivery.

But the unintended consequence of taking such a low road in her first national speech is that she has energized Democrats and centerist independents. Cash and volunteer hours are flowing into the Obama Campaign as we speak. Yes, she also energized the fringe of the Republicans. But unfortunately, nearly everyone else is running away.

Good job, Sarah! Thanks!

www.barackobama.com
GET INVOLVED TODAY!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 1:03 PM | Report abuse

Regardless of how well Sarah Palin delivers her carefully crafted Rovian speeches, I don't think even the feckless, American Idol-addicted American electorate is ready for White Trash Nation in (or within a heartbeat of) the White House. Come on. Pistol-packin', moose huntin' mama, secessionist husband, pregnant 17-year-old daughter, and 18-year-old hockey player, who by now certainly wishes he'd never set eyes on said daughter but is going to have to marry her and stay married for at least as long as Mommy's in the public eye? It would be the final death blow to dignity in American government. And I think voters' infatuation with a candidate they'd like to have a beer with has been pretty well purged after eight years of Bush. I may be overly optimistic, but I think the American people are ready for leaders they can be proud of, rather than embarrassed by.

Posted by: lcva | September 4, 2008 1:02 PM | Report abuse

I think this speech was very effective. But for Obama, not McCain.
As a progressive, I donated twice to Obama's campaign during the primary, but since he flip flopped so may times, on so many important positions, after winning the nomination, my $25.00 monthly check writing pen ran dry. Bone dry.
I was a little angry, but more so disappointed. Perhaps there is not that big of a difference between them after all, I thought. Maybe Nader is right, that McCain and Obama are just a choice between Heklyl and Jekyl. The lesser of two evils, and, he doesn't need my money anyway.
Well, my monthly check writing pen has found new life. Obama may be only a lesser evil, but this election is not the choice between the lesser of two evils. Palin reminded me last night that this is a choice between a lesser evil, and just plain evil. So I'm back at my desk writing a check. And, I will write another and another, (as I don't have the money to ever max out like most repugs do, when writing their sole, obligatory, $2,300.00 check.)
So, I think Palins selection is the best kind of wake up call. A wake up call for from those of us disaffected Obama supporters, all the way to the rapid PUMA's who would never have voted for Obama, until they laid their eyes on Palin, who is the best case for why we who are not repugs must vote, even if we too have to hold our noses. We will be more invigorated than ever before to stop these rabid false christian, right wingers from another four years of power.
Palin may initially invigorate the repugs insular and close minded base in the short run, but after they have already picked up the remaining trailer trash vote, (that would never have voted democrat anyway, but was hedging on McCain), and after it becomes clear to the thinking middle class, that all they have to offer is another four years of hate and division, their well will once again run dry. Meanwhile, the dems will be invigorated more than ever, because we couldn't have asked that these stakes be made more stark. And, these stakes couldn't have been made more apparent, by anyone but this self described pit bull with lipstick, named Sarah Palin.

Posted by: Richard from Brooklyn Fuhgedaboutit | September 4, 2008 1:02 PM | Report abuse

Bless her heart, she's a fool, plain and simple.

When "Alaska First" Alaskans like her and her husband secede from the Union, will they get military support from Putin in Russia?

Have Republicans flat-out lost their minds?

General Eisenhower helped us win World War II. A grateful nation elected him President. U.S. Grant helped keep the Union together in the Civil War. A grateful nation elected him President. John McCain loses 5 airplanes and mis-represents his time as a POW. Have we just lowered the bar?

Posted by: tony the pitiful copywriter | September 4, 2008 1:01 PM | Report abuse


Look, the whole political process is a joke. There is one political party in the U.S. - the "Republicrats." It doesn't matter who wins. We're toast.

The vitriol I read on here from the Dems is evidence that they FEAR Sarah Palin. Sure, she's corrupt, and a cupcake, but man, at least she's a good-looking cupcake. About friggin' time.... Looking at Hillary every night for 4 years would have been INSUFFERABLE.

C'mon, Dems, lighten up. Your assinine support of public schools has created this nation of idiots. Get it? Sorry, but she's gonna win - and all thanks to you.

Posted by: wakeup | September 4, 2008 1:01 PM | Report abuse

Are we a nation of laws?

"Al Qaeda terrorists still plot to inflict catastrophic harm on America ...
he's worried that someone won't read them their rights?"

So said Sarah Palin, contrasting herself from Barack Obama in her Vice Presidential acceptance speech.

Was she referring to the recent decision of the Supreme Court? 

Who appointed the majority of these judges? 

Which "terrorists" was she referring to, and how do we know they are "terrorists"? 

What is an acceptable period of time to detain someone without due process?

What does it mean to be a nation of laws? 


Do we have the right to decide which laws we will respect? 

Do we have the right to decide when we will respect them?
Should laws for me be any different than laws for you?

Can you explain this to me like I am in the 2nd grade?

Posted by: Rick | September 4, 2008 1:00 PM | Report abuse

Palin campaigned for governor on a platform of change, but change from what?

Change from the corrupt gang in her own Republican party that had been running the state for years.

Now she's doing the same thing on a national level. Washington is broken, she says. But who broke it? Her own party has been in charge of the federal government for the past seven years. She supported and campaigned in 2000 and 2004 for the party who produced the situation she's now campaigning against. Are Americans really stupid enough to think the best way to fix a broken government is to send back to power the same party that broke it? We'll see.

Posted by: simon | September 4, 2008 1:00 PM | Report abuse

The Republican speechwriters went all out with Palin to try and move the Republicans as far away as possible from Washington Insiders Bush and Cheney. A serious problem with her speech: Her criticisms of Obama were lies or at worst half-truths. People are going to get tired of that pitbull sneer after awhile too.

Posted by: Doctoroe | September 4, 2008 1:00 PM | Report abuse

Palin's speech was admirable. She backstabbed and spoke flat-out lies without ever seeming uncomfortable or dropping her smile. A true politician. Great choice for a candidate whose strategy is not to provide a policy plan, but merely to bring the opponent down.

Some facts: Alaska gets more federal pork per capita than ANY other state. And Palin personally hired the lobbyists to make it happen.
The bridge to nowhere: She didn't say "no thanks," but "yes please." Only when the bridge became a national embarrassment did she drop support.
Wasilla under Palin hired lobbyists to get special pork barrel money.
She said Obama never authored any legislation, federal or state. Untrue on both counts -- he authored and helped pass laws both in the Illinois and the US Senate.
In contrast to her statements, Obama's tax plan gives more tax relief to middle class Americans (not the one's McCain defines as making around $5 million) than McCain's -- which is widely known and criticized even among Republicans.
For a more complete list of lies and exaggerations see:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080904/ap_on_el_pr/cvn_fact_check

Posted by: Tom | September 4, 2008 12:59 PM | Report abuse


Samantha Bee at the Daily Show said it best, "Women don't vote with their big head, they vote with their small hood"

Well Said!

Posted by: Jane | September 4, 2008 12:59 PM | Report abuse

Palin's speech was vapid, angry, and off-putting.

Here is a simple thought experiment: How long would it take Obama to acquire the "executive experience" Palin says she now has once he is in office? I'd say about two weeks.

Now, how long would it take a President Palin to acquire the formal education, legal and teaching experience, world knowledge, language and literary skills, historical insight, judgment, organizational leadership abilities, compassion, balanced temperament, and wisdom that Obama has already amply demonstrated?

I'd say it would take from now until forever for her to even begin to approach Obama's accomplishments in any area that really matters.

Palin is a nullity whose claim to fame is that she brought millions of federal dollars in earmarks to her tiny town. McCain's horrible mistake was in caving in to the extremist elements of the GOP.

Put another way: when faced with their first important executive decisions Obama chose Joe Biden, McCain chose Sarah Palin. That is all you need to know about the dangerous and deluded Sen. McCain.

Posted by: delta | September 4, 2008 12:59 PM | Report abuse

Truthfully, you are right, I didn't watch. What were Palin's foreign policy facts?

Posted by: really? | September 4, 2008 12:59 PM | Report abuse

Out of four people running for Pres/VP this year we have - two guys with tons of experience who are ok to moderate speakers. Two people with little experience who can deliver a great speech.

We also have a nation that is in economic turmoil, at war, beset by troubles and issues on almost every topic.

Are we ready to get past the speeches and move on to actually debating the issues? It's time to let the pundits go find other jobs and give the election back to the people, not a bunch of hairdos on television.

Posted by: Annie | September 4, 2008 12:59 PM | Report abuse

I don't think Palin's selection was some secret GOP strategy.

McCain wanted to pick Ridge or Liebermann, but as it got close to the GNC they started to realize that evangelicals were going to freak out. So at the last minute McCain switched to a little known but evangelically loyal candidate from Alaska.

What does this tell us about McCain? He values the support of extremists more than his own moderate instincts. He has no problem making split second decisions without understanding the consequences. He is weak enough to allow himself to be overruled by his conniving advisors.

This decision reflects very poorly on McCain.

Posted by: Thinking | September 4, 2008 12:59 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin's spoke really well so initially it was hard for me to figure out why I didn't like her. But I couldn't shake the impression she is a "mean girl" made good. The way she so naturally cast a spell with her perfect face and the sweet, fluty voice while simultaneously slipping the dagger between the ribs - she came off just like the fake-nice popular girls from school.

Posted by: Gring8 | September 4, 2008 12:58 PM | Report abuse

I finally figured out who Sarah Palin reminds me of -- Dolores Umbridge (from the Harry Potter books). That sickly sweet smile with venomous malice underneath. Would that Ms. Palin end up like Dolores did.

Posted by: Larry S | September 4, 2008 12:57 PM | Report abuse

She can holler "reform" all she wants; wake me up when she gets around to saying WHAT she plans to reform.

Posted by: Daniel J. Drazen | September 4, 2008 12:57 PM | Report abuse

Who you gonna vote for, rubber stamp 1 or 2? I'll pick rubber stamp 2 this time. For a change.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 12:56 PM | Report abuse

She won my vote… I like when she talked about being a pitbull with lipstick; and how she knows how to shoot guns. Man, I think she’s better then McCain!!! Also being from Alaska governing such a large state, defiantly spells Champion.
Republicans are sooo smart… they have my vote. NOT!!! (Dirty Politics!!! That’s all they have, it would be nice if Democrats could just open up a can of whip a$$, there so much that could be said, but then they would be the ugly Americans) All I saw at the RNC convention were old dumb people!!! Not to mention the gold diggers

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 12:55 PM | Report abuse

Obama called white Democrats "racists" for not supporting him.
DNC Obama-supporter Donna Brazile proclaimed on national TV that the Dem Party no longer needed whites.

Dems for McCain/Palin!


Posted by: Richard | September 4, 2008 12:55 PM | Report abuse

First of all, I am not an Obama fan. I will NOT be voting for him.. but not for false reasons. That was not Obama who refused to put his hand on the bible. Look it up. He is a Christian and has always willingly put his hand on the Bible. I thought the same way until this morning.. I looked it up. But I still do not agree with the lame excuse of why he will not wear a flag pin or salute the flag. I think that it is a very moving and simple sign of allegiance to the flag of our country and it bothers me that he has chosen to refuse to do so for whatever reason. I do not agree with his stand on abortion.. on health care.. and I feel that he is yet too inexperienced to serve as President of the most powerful nation in the world.

As far as Hillary.. just say NO.

Posted by: Chris | September 4, 2008 12:55 PM | Report abuse

^^^ What if Obama's Conscience Spoke at the Same Time He Did? ^^^
^^^ Annotated transcript of Obama's Nomination Acceptance Speech ^^^

>>"Four years ago, I stood before you and told you my story -- of the brief union between a young man from Kenya and a young woman from Kansas who weren't well-off or well-known, but shared a belief that in America, their son could achieve whatever he put his mind to."

--Four years ago, I laid a big one on you out of my fictionalized life story that I made about my drunken, polygamist, already-married Kenyan father who knocked up my then-17-year-old mother and then abandoned us.

>>"It is that promise that has always set this country apart -- that through hard work and sacrifice, each of us can pursue our individual dreams but still come together as one American family, to ensure that the next generation can pursue their dreams as well."

--And where people like me can get ahead on racial preference and affirmative action, so that we advance without ever actually doing anything resembling hard work and sacrifice like you people!

>>"It is why I stand here tonight. Because for 232 years, at each moment when that promise was in jeopardy, ordinary men and women -- students and soldiers, farmers and teachers, nurses and janitors -- found the courage to keep it alive."

--And support my undeserved advancement and also pay for my racial preference scholarships and all the gravy train that has come my way over the years! The donations of millions of african american supporters -- students and soldiers, farmers and teachers, nurses and janitors -- paid my campaign the $6 million that it cost to move my nominating night event from the Pepsi arena to Invesco field in the Temple of Obama!

>>"We meet at one of those defining moments -- a moment when our nation is at war, our economy is in turmoil, and the American promise has been threatened once more."

--And the Democratic party is nominating a president with no experience or qualifications that might make him a credible executive!! I couldn't get hired to run a factory!! Ha Ha!

>>"Tonight, more Americans are out of work and more are working harder for less. More of you have lost your homes and more are watching your home values plummet. More of you have cars you can't afford to drive, credit card bills you can't afford to pay and tuition that is beyond your reach"

--And yet you have sent $400 million to my presidential campaign! That I keep spending on helping the voters get to know me better! As if that's the problem! What suckers!

*************************
In David Mendell's 2007 biography, Obama, it was reported that Obama was a B student whose grades slipped so far below a B at High School that in his final year his grandmother feared he would not get into a university. The chapter ends with him being accepted into Occidental on a full scholarship.

The NYT has published a letter written by Obama in 1990, that discusses his own experiences with affirmative action.

(http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/03/us/politics/03affirmative.html?_r=2&em=&oref=slogin&pagewanted=print&oref=slogin)

Mr. Obama quote: “[I] undoubtedly benefited from affirmative action” in [my] own academic career.

Posted by: Barack Obama's Conscience | September 4, 2008 12:55 PM | Report abuse

I was a McCain supporter and voted for him in the primary. With the Palin choice, he has lost my support. I am so disappointed that Sen. McCain would so recklessly disregard the saftey of my children and our country by making the choice of such an untested person, and apparently making the choice with such little forethought. Reckless is the only way to describe it. He family problems are not the issue.

If Islamo-Fascism is the transcendent issue of our time, how can you believe a person who has zero record even studying the issue is best prepared to be President of the United States, leader of the free world? I was okay with some of the moves McCain made this year to shore up the base, but this is unforgivable.

Posted by: John | September 4, 2008 12:52 PM | Report abuse

Sorry WP but NYT accepts all my comments. TaTa!

Posted by: gaye k. | September 4, 2008 12:52 PM | Report abuse

It's interesting that the GOP speakers at this convention complain about the failures of Washington without acknowledging that the GOP has controlled Washington for the better part of the past 8 years.

So much for the party of personal responsibility.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 12:52 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin is very refreshing!

An advocate for Special Needs children!
She's got my vote.

Dems for McCain/Palin!

Posted by: zazzle | September 4, 2008 12:51 PM | Report abuse

Another Republican-written Pogo speech: "We have met the enemy [and they are us]," only without the capacity to see the embedded hypocrisy in the flourishes of projection and thus omitting the second clause.

If Ms. Palin's tone resonates well and reflects the values of mid-America, it's a sign of what terrible shape our country has fallen into, and how rationalized imperialism leads to its own sad demise as it wallows in double standards, pettiness, and ongoing lies.

If smug and snarky small-town, small-mind rhetoric is now the fashion, then we are seeing the schism within American culture played full on. Ordinariness and conventionality elevated to an art form. Regression to the mean - and the petty. The differences lie in complexity of thinking and real compassion, both characteristics the (neo)conservative movement wants desperately to claim.

Indeed, the Democratic party is little better, and thus the need for a viable third, or a shift away from partisanship altogether. Both conventions pointed to the flaws in the Beltway model, and neither saw itself as integral to the problems. Hubris abounds.

The empire is at a tipping point, and the election of a McCain/Palin ticket will be a regressive shove. That will make both the "old time religion" and "back to fundamentals" packs happy campers. It will also end the dream they purport to believe in. At the same time, the elitists will wring their high-hands in frustration because they are disconnected from the electoral mass that can't locate their own country on a map.

The regression will push the U.S. into the backwaters of history as other smarter, less simplistic, better educated, and more open-minded and flexible nations take the forefront in geopolitics.

The pathetic Bush years (enabled by inept Democrats) have set the course for demise. The likes of Palin & McCain will finish the job. The celebrations of mediocrity and the low road at the Republican convention assure us of that.

Posted by: anemonefish | September 4, 2008 12:51 PM | Report abuse

nonagon, I didn't say she wrote it or didn't write it, I was just saying ALL political figures have speech writers. Now she has a speech she can talk about just like Obama has his 2004 speech.

Posted by: tiredof stupidpeople | September 4, 2008 12:51 PM | Report abuse

Can I be reading these comments correctly? Are the ati-Palin people actually denigrating her terrific speech and flawless delivery because she used ... gasp ... a speechwriter??!!!!!

Shocking!!!!!!

And as far as Ryan's comments that she was disrespectful and snide ... Ryan dismisses Palin's background and home town as "redneck from Nowhereville with a Journalism degree out of Idaho" and to drive the final elitist nail in Palin's supposed coffin: "Her husband is an uneducated fisherman" ... but Ryan is not being disrespectful and snide?

Please keep making such wonderfully stupid comments, Democrats.

Posted by: Robert | September 4, 2008 12:51 PM | Report abuse

Very disappointing speech- this one will not be winning over the Hillary supporters. Women supported Hillary because she is a woman with the experience and judgment to be a great president. For example, Hillary has worked for decades for health insurance for every American, while Palin's short career has been about hand outs for Alaska and oil companies.

Palin's shrill and back-biting speech did not show an ounce of inspiration or leadership. The crowd was not moved by her eloquence any more than a jeering and cheering crowd is "moved" by a lynching.

And what is all this BS about her being a REAL mom?? It is an insult to all us mothers to suggest that Palin's brand of motherhood is somehow superior to the rest of us.

The lies in her speach are listed here http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080904/ap_on_el_pr/cvn_fact_check,
In fact, Obama has authored major legislation and his tax plan will provide $80 billion in tax breaks for the poor and elderly- sorry nothing for Palin's oil buddies.

On a positive note, Palin was so strident and nasty that no one will ever again dare use the B word to describe Hillary Clinton or Nancy Pelosi. Let us put that double standard behind us!

Posted by: Beck | September 4, 2008 12:51 PM | Report abuse

This woman, Sarah Palin, has no credibility with me or any of my women friends! She is very disrespectful and downright dirty-mouth. She says community organizing is nothing? People like me do community organizing, that's how we get politician to listen! How could she belittle that? In Fact, Senator Obama, was also a constitutional law professor, and a laywer too. So, I don't know where Palin is coming from!!

Shame on you Sarah Palin! We'll see you on the campaign trail! You have never been n the side of American women on any issue. Forget my vote!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 12:50 PM | Report abuse

There are a lot of scared democrats on this board haha.
It was a good speech, and hey, for everyone criticizing her, you have to tough and hard-nosed in your presentation.
She's definitely not a wimp.

Posted by: Independent | September 4, 2008 12:49 PM | Report abuse

Us foreigners really don't understand how in America being an "average" man (or woman" qualifies you for the top job, everywhere else you want people to run your country and impact your lives, that are the best of the best, best schools, best grades, smartest, most articulate, etc.
do you chose your neurosurgeon based on the fact it's a hockey dad?, your CEO? even your plumber needs to be qualified for the job, but not your president.
Here you want the average guy, and in fact here you will get "average results" which simply in this world of today don't cut, aren't you sick of 8 years of average results by a guy that run on "who would you have a beer with?".
Everywhere else the top job is held by the best and you are trying to put an average joe/jane in there with them at international meetings? as it is now everyone looks at the Us as a dumb guy with a big stick, you listen to him because of the stick, not because of what he says, Putin during the recent crisis said:"who cares what the Us thinks" do we want this attitude to continue, the world is a much bigger place than the US and sooner or later is going to bite back. You need someone that is elite and if you want to keep to the american dream of getting to the top starting from the bottom look where the candidates come from and what adversities have countered (being a POW could have happened to anyone fighting in Vietnam, it's not a qualification).
I hope americans realize they need a much above average individual to run the country this time, otherwise you'll deserve what you'll get.
Biglio, Calgary, Canada

Posted by: biglio | September 4, 2008 12:49 PM | Report abuse

"ST. PAUL, Minn. — Sarah Palin stands at the center of a whirlwind of controversy at the Republican National Convention — but many GOP congressional candidates think the conservative Alaska governor can help motivate base voters crucial to down ballot campaigns."

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0908/13127.html

Ha Ha. Maybe she has enough star power to check the expected surge in Democratic senate and house seats this year!

Obama couda picked Hillary if he weren't such a sexist, obsessed with his "historic first black president" narrative and being the only one.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 4, 2008 12:49 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin's speech was honest, hard-hitting and effective. Her attacks on Obama were accurate, precise and well-deserved. Obama has received a lot of 'special treatment' throughout this campaign on 'sensitive' issues.

However, Sarah doesn't get that 'special treatment' as the democrats continue to cross the line with their SEXIST, and personal family attacks.

It doesn't surprise me the democrats go after another female candidate. After all look at how they dismissed and disrespected Hillary by backing Obama, after all the Clintons have done their party. Then Obama's adds insult to injury by not selecting Hillary as VP.

It should be a no brainer for all females to vote for McCain/Palin.

Posted by: Maria | September 4, 2008 12:49 PM | Report abuse

I get the impression that most of the commentators on here did not watch the speech at all, but read about it in, we all know, very slanted articles on blogs this morning. She said more facts relating to foreign policy in her speech than I have heard from any candidate in a major speech all season. Mr. Obama made VERY general statements in his speech, like how he "will rid us of our energy dependence in 10 years." How??? He won't even be in office in ten years! If you want a real perspective on what the far left is trying to turn America into with this election, visit their "golden city," San Francisco. There are two types of people there: those who make six figures a year, and those who live off of $10 an hour serving the others drinks and take an hour-long ride out of the city each night. Socialism is a cancer that elevates people like Obama and Pelosi and slowly sucks away at your freedoms while putting you on a VERY MEAGER dole.

Posted by: Truthfully | September 4, 2008 12:48 PM | Report abuse

SATAN! You are a liar and A cheat,as I witness your works,I will summons the
four winds and banish you from eden
for eternity!BE CAREFUL WORLD FOR WHAT
YOU ASK FOR,FOR YOURS IS FOR THE ASKING!

hallijah!

Posted by: REDEEMER | September 4, 2008 12:48 PM | Report abuse

Could we have an Obama vs. Palin debate _on the issues_ (in addition to Obama-McCain and Biden-Palin)? Much of the argument nowadays centers on their level of preparation for higher office, so this would help.

Posted by: jr | September 4, 2008 12:47 PM | Report abuse

I watched and saw nothing at all of substance. I was then amazed to hear the analysts commend her- do we expect nothing more from the potential Vice President of the United States of America? As a Canadian I have stood by over the last 8 years and watched the US falter on the world stage and Republican style tactics seep into my countries political landscape. I am sick of it. Sarah Palin had nothing to say and has nothing to offer the majority of Americans. If you want nasty and status quo to continue in America, vote this ticket. I actually respected McCain until he approved this candidate and had his people write this tripe.
Good luck to you America- to me the choice is as clear as day. Obama or run!!

Posted by: concernedcanadian | September 4, 2008 12:47 PM | Report abuse

JP,

The debate wasn't about foreign policy issues but the issue of leadership. Leadership is what I submit Obama is lacking and Governor Palin has. Leadership doesn't mean you always make the decisions that appeal to everyone - in fact, it may and often does go against conventional wisdom.

Posted by: LP | September 4, 2008 12:46 PM | Report abuse

Alex wrote:

Obviously, I can't. Nobody honestly can look at this person, look at her background, and feel she would be able to do the job should something happen.
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Alex are you truly saying that you wouldn't vote for a person with a number of years of executive experience for VP who "should something happen" would have to do the job of President. But you would vote for a person with NO executive experience, limited legislative experience and NO legislative accomplishments for President?

I would be very interested in your thought process and decision making criteria.

Posted by: Quizzical | September 4, 2008 12:46 PM | Report abuse

I partilcularly like the way Romney threw in healthcare for Americans - as if that were something he, or any of the republicans including Palin or McCain, were actually interested in delivering. Seems it doesn't really matter at all what they are actually saying. It's all lies. Might as well be Britney Spears running for VP. There's little difference between them and it's all about the package anyway.

Posted by: GoneFishin | September 4, 2008 12:45 PM | Report abuse

linda wrote: "Hillary voter here, now voting for Palin.
Biden's son's lobbying is worth more attention."

... I am in total agreement with you Linda!!
McCain-Palin '08
Hillary 2012 ... just 4 short years away!!

Posted by: Cassandra Washington | September 4, 2008 12:44 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin’s speech reminded me of why I left the GOP during the last presidential election after having been a card carrying member since the seventies. One look around the convention hall tells it all. In now way does the GOP resemble the population of the U.S. The GOP has become little more than the old pre-1964 segregationist southern conservative wing of the Democratic Party.

Posted by: Former GOP | September 4, 2008 12:43 PM | Report abuse

tiredofstupidpeople, based only on a speech that you concede she did not write (her foray into national politics), what is it about Palin that makes you actually think she is ready to lead? Because she is attractive? Because she reads well?

Posted by: nonagon | September 4, 2008 12:43 PM | Report abuse


Well, she kinda looks like a cross between Tina Fey and Angelina Jolie.

And in our toxic, celebrity-obsessed culture, we all bow down to celebrities, and listen to their opinions. (George Clooney on Charlie Rose, anyone?)

Obama is good-looking. Sarah Palin is VERY good-looking. It's a toss-up, people.

Posted by: hollywood | September 4, 2008 12:43 PM | Report abuse

Wow... I don't know where to begin. First, let me just state (for the record) that the speech was delivered very well (and well written, for its purpose). Sara Palin is the new political celebrity. Yes, she is a mother. Yes, she comes from a small town. Will this translate into votes from small-town, blue-collar voters (and women that fall into those two categories)? That remains to be seen. Is she qualified for the job of V.P.? Well, if you listen to Karl Rove (you all know who he is), then I guess the answer to that question is a resounding "no". After all, he stated the Tim Kaine (D-VA) was not qualified to be the Democratic V.P. candidate (when he was being considered) because "he had only been governor for three years and was mayor of a small town, with no real accomplishments". He also stated that he would be a "political pick". Sound familiar? I guess Sarah Palin was a political pick. So what does that say about John McCain?

The truth is that although Sarah Palin may be charming and able to speak to a crowd of ardent supporters (and even a slice of "real-life Americana"), she simply is not the best choice (unless the goal was to energize the conservative base). Her speech, while not written by her, was typical of the Republican Party Line: attack and criticize without giving any real indication as to how you are going to improve anything. I find it completely disingenuous. But, to be fair, that's how most politicians are. It's just a matter of finding the one that is that way the least. And, since we are being open and honest here, if you take a little time to look into it, you will find that her speech contained several things that simply were not accurate. I'll leave that up to you--you will have to check her record for that, by the way. It just came across as more of the same, no matter how much the McCain campaign wants to refer to themselves as the ones who are going to change Washington.

Also, I find it interesting that so much time was spent (not just by Palin, but by pretty much everyone who spoke), on terrorism and protecting us here at home. While that is important, when you don't get into other very important issues (like the economy, for instance), it comes across as fear-mongering (which did work before, if I'm not mistaken).

Bottom-Line: Gov. Palin is a great choice for energizing your core group of supporters and trying to make your own case for change, but it simply falls flat. She is not the right choice to be V.P. (and, in dire circumstances, President). Once you get through all of he political rhetoric, I think that will come out.

P.S. Attacking community organizers? Pretty shameful...

P.P.S. Didn't one of McCain's senior advisers say that this (election) was not about issues? Hmmm... I wonder why?

Posted by: Adam | September 4, 2008 12:43 PM | Report abuse

Palin spun when she said that Obama would increase taxes on the working class...maybe he will, but the McCains certainly won't be lowering those same people's taxes. Instead, if the national debt increases through war and other irresponsible spending, it will contribute to inflation, which will make everything more expensive--rendering the McCain "tax breaks" for the middle class useless. In fact, the impact of the inflation on an average family probably can't be dented by the tiny amount of tax relief. The people who are really getting tax relief are big business and their CEOs. Why don't Republicans see that??? I am genuinely confused. Average Republicans, I guarantee you will lose money by voting McCain, which affects you much more than the existence of Roe v Wade. Vote smart.

If McCain continues the war and tax breaks to Exxon, the government will have no money for anything else they promise--better education, affordable college, etc. Not that the McCains are really promising anything, since they seem to be running on a platform of air.

And Palin was outright lying when she was talking about improving the environment. Not only do Republicans historically not care about the environment, but Palin herself doesn't believe that global warming is man made and that polar bears should be on the endangered species list. Not to mention she talks the talk, but when it comes down to it, she can't convince her own daughter to either be abstinent OR use birth control, and she herself is under investigation for corruption.

Posted by: Ella M. | September 4, 2008 12:43 PM | Report abuse

The speech was highly effective in that it was full of lies and spins. Thus, the Republican base, which has a very limited capability to think logically and intelligently, will eat it up. However, I have to agree with Mark Shields' analysis that it came of desperate and belittling to Obama.

Alleging that she has more responsibility than a community organizer is frankly very government-elitist. That directly countered what she had been trying to prove all night--that the McCain camp is the agent of change. Community movements are what have brought change historically, NOT the government. But I don't think that Republicans will really take the time to think about that; they probably don't have the capability to do so. Comparing the PTA to a political career is just stupid.

And even if a lot of Delawares fit in Alaska, the population of Delaware per sq mile is about 437 times more than in Alaska. Not to mention this is a moot point, since Biden is a senator while Palin is a mayor and then, more recently (too recently), a governor.

Palin's speech was pandering, which certainly met my expectations because I would expect no less of a Republican. She just couldn't keep her lies as classy-sounding as most Republicans do.

Posted by: maya | September 4, 2008 12:40 PM | Report abuse

I'm an old, clueless suck up.

Posted by: Peggy Noonan | September 4, 2008 12:39 PM | Report abuse

According to CBS, Palin "slashed funding for schools for special needs kids by 62%." Oh, isn't that nice? What a lovely woman. What a liar.

WAKE UP MEDIA. You owe us after your utter failure to tell the public the truth about Bush and the lead-up to war in Iraq.

Posted by: DogBitez | September 4, 2008 12:39 PM | Report abuse

Couldn't stomach actually watching Caribou Barbie last night
but what I have seen and heard this morning says one thing. The Republicans have NOTHING to run on
but inane, shallow lies and personal attacks and that's all Governor Palin gave last night. All it did was rev up the far right base of the GOP who were already voting for Grandpa McSame anyway. While that was enough to win in 2004, when the GOP base was far larger than today, it won't work this time. And, after last night, the gloves are off with Sarah Palin. We'll now define her as exactly what she is:
an inexperienced, shrill, right-wing extremist. There was no mention in her speech of her wacko views on social issues; she is anti-choice even in cases of rape and incest, a view shared by about 15% of the electorate. She opposes birth control and preaches abstinence, values she was happy to impose on others but not so much at home.

Had McCain selected Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison of Texas, that would have been a game-changer; she's articulate, a 15-year veteran of the Senate and highly experienced in foreign affairs. Oh, that's right. The religious right still controls the GOP and Sen. Hutchison's moderate views on abortion disqualify her. Too bad. And, by the way, expect Joe Biden to take Gov. Palin apart in the VP depate on October 2. She won't be able to use her clever little talking points and zingers in the debate. And, on the real issues of the day, it will be no contest. I predict Biden will mop the floor with her.

Posted by: michael in florida | September 4, 2008 12:39 PM | Report abuse

She read a speech by writers who apprenticed under Karl Rove.

a) What she said is what I'd expect from this crew.
b) She proved that she can be a good mouthpiece for them.

Am I impressed? Not likely. Let's see what she can do on her own. How about a debate with Biden?

Posted by: Kevin | September 4, 2008 12:38 PM | Report abuse

Why is it that if you attack Republicans on issues, they turn it personal and attack character, but if you question their character, they 'whine' about it? When will McCain/Palin campaign begin talking about issues anyways? My guess is they hope they don't have to!

Posted by: As I say, not as i do | September 4, 2008 12:37 PM | Report abuse

She is very pretty...

Posted by: AdrickHenry | September 4, 2008 12:37 PM | Report abuse

I think her speak was written well..But missed the mark...She never talked about the issues and was more on a personal attack of Obama then stating exacly how her and McCain will change the last 8 years or how they would make a difference. I honestly flipped back and forth during her speak because she kept pausing and waiting for an applause with points she was making. To top if off all her points about Obama were work. She claims she has the experinece but her views are twisted. She is against a woman's right to choose, sex education in high school, and many other things. She was a last minute pick for the Republicans and it will show in November at the polls that it was a bad choice...GO OBAMA/BIDEN 08...

Posted by: smiley20903 | September 4, 2008 12:37 PM | Report abuse

Great Speech! Nothing about the economy, war in Iraq, poverty and homeless people in the USA, loss of jobs, mortgage foreclosures, immigration, etc...Why can't people focus on the issues instead of spreading hate and separation? When will it be time for this country to come together? Another catastrophe? This is not a plug in for either candidate, but how many people of color did you really see out in the audience?

Posted by: Karl P. | September 4, 2008 12:37 PM | Report abuse

Last night Sarah Palin did her job. She energized the convention, she validated her credentials to the religious right so important to Republicans, she confirmed her patriotism by pointing out she was willingly and proudly sending one of her sons to Iraq and she showed she could be a very persuasive cheerleader for her party's standard bearer.

But, there was little, if any, substance as to how she and Senator McCain would begin to attack the numerous problems facing the nation other than an echo of FDR's first hundred days.

While positioning herself and Mr. McCain as mevericks and reformers she deftly dodged the question of why these two could reverse the path of the past eight years and how the two of them could revitalize a party which is riddled with corruption and beholden to special interests.

And,while she attacked the media for its bias, she did not provide any specifics as to exactly what the media was being biaed about.

Finally, it may be only me but her tone was a bit too strident and confrontational to be consistent with the image of small town salt of the earth "loving" mother and wife she attempted to portray with the family portrait of appearances by her husband and children.

Yes, she energized the base but the questions of experience and qualifications are not going to go away after one "out of the park" speech (was it really that good or was it only spun that way?). Sarah got off to a great start with her constiutency; now let's see if she can withstand the rigors and strains of a campaign where the telepromter will not always be there and she will not have her family as a photo op background.
mother and wife

Posted by: bobfbell | September 4, 2008 12:36 PM | Report abuse

She has good lips and what I mean by that is she can give a good head.

Posted by: jnn | September 4, 2008 12:36 PM | Report abuse

And here we are, Day 6 and she isn't ready to take a question from a reporter. How are we supposed to believe she is ready to stand up to Putin if she can't meet the press. What are they so afraid of that they had to cancel McCain's interview with that wet noodle, Larry King?

Posted by: Sara B. | September 4, 2008 12:36 PM | Report abuse

Yeah she's super hot, in a naughty MILF kinda of way. If you include Bristol in the equation when the baby pops out and that's a three way made in heaven.

McCain was staring at her rack last week. I can't say I blame him. hehe Lucky bastard, he gets all the hot ones.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 12:36 PM | Report abuse

Have I fallen through the looking glass? The press mentions this woman's speech as if it were original. It was written by a Bush speech writer, for heaven's sake. The content and approach were transparently Bush-Rovian. The nastiness and lack of issue content were familiar - instead of solutions, we got the opening salvo to a primitive new culture war! Fortunately, most Americans - particularly independents - will be revolted by it and by the blatant ignorance of little chants such as "Drill, baby, drill!". Now it's clearer than ever that these folks must be put out to pasture. We care about getting out of Iraq, the economy and other problems created by Ms. Palin's and Old Mr. McSame's party in the last eight years. I don't think they want the nightmare to go on for another four, which is what these fake "mavericks" are promising.

Posted by: Macondo | September 4, 2008 12:36 PM | Report abuse

Too bad Obama's too narcissistic, arrogant, self-focused and obsessed with his narrative of "first black" this and "first black" that to share an historic ticket with another historic candidate.

He could have formed a "dream ticket" with Hillary Clinton even as early as this past March.

It's on him for going into the Fall with a lot of disrespected women upset at his campaign.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 4, 2008 12:35 PM | Report abuse

I am an independant voter living in Dublin, Austrailer and I am voting for OBAMA!!! I had not made up my mind who to vote for until I saw the mean nasty evil broomstick riding evil temptress, sexy "Tell me this book is due back by Thursday" super hawt Hockey Mom...
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Posted by: Independant Voter | September 4, 2008 12:35 PM | Report abuse

I heard a good portion of Palin's speech. It took her a full 12 minutes before she began, in earnest, to tell folks who she was. Before that, it was all about McCain and flag-waving.

At various points in the speech, she just didn't sound like a candidate ready to take on a VP position - she sounded like a character from a Hollywood sitcom. (Tina Fey would do a spot-on impression, I'm thinking.) No one questions Sarah Palin's folksiness, but folksiness isn't the only thing that makes a leader.

There was very little attention paid to the issues from what I heard - the economy, the war, and so on. Just what another writer described as "identity politics" - if you're like me, I'll vote for you, is the way it goes.

I'm an African American male of 45 years. Joe Biden and I are different in many cultural ways. But I would trust that man in the Number Two spot rather than Ms. Palin.

She'll be a great attack dog for the GOP, of course. But will she bring any new ideas? Nah. And once again, the Republicans continue to prove they're political shape-shifters by now claiming that a lack of experience before is now a plus. It was bad for Obama; it's good for Palin.

Do we really need to give these folks another four years to lie to the nation and change positions on a dime?

Posted by: wpreader2007 | September 4, 2008 12:35 PM | Report abuse

The notion that Palin is somehow going to deliver all of the votes of the disaffected Hillary supporters (PUMA votes) is flawed.

These women supported Hillary over Obama because they believed in her policies, her experience and what she stood for (and against).

McCain seems to think that just by picking a woman on his ticket, he can get to Hillary voters. That ought to be insulting not just to Hillary's supporters but to women all across the political spectrum. Does he take them to be dumb feminists that will vote for any woman regardless of what her experience and policies are?

As Karl Rove rightly said, this is a purely political pick and has nothing to do with the issues, policies or governing. I hope that women see through this scam.

Posted by: Chris | September 4, 2008 12:34 PM | Report abuse

How many of you people that say she just "read" a speech written for her, thinks that Obama or any political figure writes their own speeches? All of them have writers!!

Posted by: tiredofstupidpeople | September 4, 2008 12:34 PM | Report abuse

One thing I noticed in Governor Palin's speech as distinct from Hillary Clinton or Joe Biden or Barack Obama, and one taken from countless manuals: you dehumanize someone by failing to state their name in a speech. Not once did she refer to him as "Senator Obama" or "Barack Obama" or even "that meeeeen man Obama". He was simply "the opponent". At least John McCain managed to remember against whom he's running, and refer to him by name. Governor Palin could not muster that much.

It's telling in a way: Sen. Obama doesn't seem to see Sen. McCain or Gov. Palin as 'less than', and I'm wondering if the same is true for Gov. Palin?

And, Hillary Clinton tried to poke fun at Obama's 'messianic' aura during the primary and it did little good. If Gov. Palin continues to resort to this, and if John McCain resorts to it tonight, then America will see through both of them. They will be seen for what they are: more 'elitist' than they cast Obama as being.

Posted by: Watcheroo | September 4, 2008 12:34 PM | Report abuse

I think she was picked for her ability to lie with a straight face. She really needs to take that I stopped the Bridge to Nowhere spiel out of her spiel.

Posted by: Sara B. | September 4, 2008 12:34 PM | Report abuse

Take a heaping cup of Spiro T. Agnew and add a dash of Dan Quayle and you've got Sara--The Baracuda--Palin. Helluva attack dog, not that bright.

Posted by: Paul S. | September 4, 2008 12:34 PM | Report abuse

I am constantly amazed whenever a republican opens his/her mouth. They sound positively medieval what with Jesus this and Jesus that. Isn't is time to forget all that medieval fairy tale nonsense about a nice Jewish boy who brought the dead back to life? And having a nice chat with snakes before being hustled out of the garden of eden after an apple snack? why on earth don't you people use your mind and rationality instead of endlessly repeating the same utter nonsense over and over again? Or should we perhaps return to "godliness" by burning everyone who disagrees with this biblical nonsense at the stake in the name of the lord who loves you amen.
Frankly i see no difference between the right wing lunatics so called Christians and fanatical Muslims. You are all suffering from a definite lack of gray matter where the brain should be.
Oh and by the way, reading the bible daily only proves you are incapable of rational thought because you might, woe is you, come across a book which just might wake you up. Try reading Darwin and we'll go from there but remember that reading the bible daily does NOT make you a good Christian. If there is a judgment after life, you will not be judged by how loudly you can bellow Hallelujah, but how many orphans or the poor you have helped.

Posted by: poorvic | September 4, 2008 12:34 PM | Report abuse

GREAT SPEECH FOR PALIN , TOO MANY CRYING DEMS ON THIS SITE

Posted by: NOT DEM HERE | September 4, 2008 12:33 PM | Report abuse

Anonymous,
I just stated my point of view. But when you spread a false message or distort scripture, I have so say something. Don't take it personally.

Posted by: Wow | September 4, 2008 12:32 PM | Report abuse

sonnysideup34, Obama writes his own speeches. Also, please don't YELL.

Posted by: nonagon | September 4, 2008 12:32 PM | Report abuse

Chris,
I have personal experience working with Governors and TAGS and my point was in contrast to everyone stating she has no leadership. My view is that it takes leadership to make decisions about the National Guard of her state. I can't tell you which state but recently a unit was tagged by the Army and the Governor of the state displayed leadership by saying "my state has had back to back deployments" the governor made the decision to ask for an alibi until they can refit and the Governor won and so did his Soldiers and their families. They will deploy again in the fiscal year but it was the Governor who had the leadership to say no - we need a break - we'll take the next one.
Apologize if it appeared I was attacking you personally - not my intent.
v/r
LP

Posted by: LP | September 4, 2008 12:32 PM | Report abuse

The difference between Obama and Palin is that Obama has been on countless tough interviews and articulated and explained his positions so that the American people know them (whether or not they agree with them is a different story). Will Palin be able to do this? Maybe. But right now she is being sheltered from all the tough questions by the McCain campaign. I'll make my judgment about whether she is qualified or not once she steps up to the plate and answers tough questions about her record without a teleprompter.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 12:31 PM | Report abuse

she did great and i loved the speech, its about time someone like her stood up to the media bias that is pervasive in America today!

Posted by: sam | September 4, 2008 12:31 PM | Report abuse

I am an independent and utterly unbiased, and would never pretend to be middle-of-the-road just to appear less biased, ever: with that said, THAT STUPID SOB WORTHLESS TRITE TRAILER TRASH REPRESENTATIVE OF THE SMALL TOWN AMERICAN REDNECKS PALIN IS A BITTER BIMBO AFTER ALL SHE IS A WOMAN AND DIDN'T GET MY IVY LEAGUE APPROVAL TO RUN FOR OFFICE SHE NEEDS TO GO BACK TO THE KITCHEN SO MY OBAMA, ER, SOMEONE'S OBAMA, CAN WIN THIS ELECTION AND OMG HE IS MY GOLDEN CALF, BOW BEFORE HIM, BOW BEFORE HIM...AOOOOOOOAH...AOOOOOAH....AOOOOAH...AOOOOAH...AOOOOOAH....

Posted by: Independent | September 4, 2008 12:30 PM | Report abuse

I am a REAL mother also. I am a Christian, pro-life, 40-something woman & mother who works outside the home, who fixes her kids their meals at night and then goes back out to work in the evening, but I am having trouble making ends meet, paying health care bills, buying gas. More importantly, I care about the people who are MUCH more worse off. There was nothing in Gov. Palin's speech that would convince me to vote for the McCain/Palin ticket. I believe Pres Bush has taken us in the wrong direction on Iraq, on education, on health care, and with foreign policy. I will be voting on the issues, and so I will vote for Obama-Biden, because despite their supposed "maverick" status, the McCain-Palin ticket is promising more of the same.

In addition, I am appalled at the cynicism, negativity, and the vitriolic message. Among other things...does she have any idea who she put down when she dismissed "community organizers?" She is rightly proud of her son for going to Iraq, but apparently she would be embarrassed if one of her children joined the Peace Corps or served for a year with Americorps. The message I got fromthe Republican party last night is that they are dismissive of the Civil Rights Movement, the improvement in labor conditions through the Labor movement, and the down-home efforts to improve community conditions for millions of Americans, whether that's water quality, educational reform, or safer streets. I appreciated seeing them for their true colors.

Posted by: susan | September 4, 2008 12:30 PM | Report abuse


Whoa. All the insults, snickering, and snipping coming from the Dems about Sarah Palin reveals but one thing: fear.

Make no mistake. The Dems did NOT see this pick coming, and it has caught them seriouly off-guard. In a media-saturated world, all full of images 24/7/365, Dems are full-blown IDIOTS to discount her good looks. Single, female Dems who can't find anyone to marry them (except maybe their cat), are going to spew venom at a hot, 44 year old hockey mom with 5 children. It's "baby-rabies," folks.

Posted by: sunshine | September 4, 2008 12:30 PM | Report abuse

Dick Cheney, Jr. Same nastiness, same lack of candor, different hidden agenda. They really are the Bush/Cheney third term.

Posted by: Adrian | September 4, 2008 12:30 PM | Report abuse

Cliff, if you honestly think Palin is fit to be POTUS...wow. You and I think so differently.

Posted by: nonagon | September 4, 2008 12:30 PM | Report abuse

Palin's speech: Sense of Fashion - check; Sense of Humor - check; Bark and Bite as McCain's New Bulldog - check; Mention of National Plan or Policy - hmmm...

Posted by: Wrecks | September 4, 2008 12:29 PM | Report abuse

"Tom whether she did or did not write that speech, she READS a teleprompter just as good as Obama, the HUGE difference is she can also speak without it, and does not mess up and fall all over herself as Obama does."

When have you heard her speak without a teleprompter? She hasn't said a single unscripted word since McMansions named her his running mate.

Posted by: Oh really, braniac? | September 4, 2008 12:28 PM | Report abuse

NO ONE IN POLITICAL OFFICE WRITES HIS OR HER OWN SPEECHES INCLUDING
SENATOR OBAMA, & IN SOME CASES A TELEPROMPTER.

Posted by: sonnysideup34 | September 4, 2008 12:28 PM | Report abuse

How did she do? Are you kidding me? Did I hear her say that the Iraq war was a God sent mission?

So God told the Bush administration to lie to the American Voters, wage war in a country that did not attack us and use the Weapons of Mass Destruction lie to try and cover it up? God sent us in Iraq to do this? What God do you serve and what Bible are you reading?

And there are those of you that think this was a knock it out the park speech and yet you cannot tell me one issue she addressed or one plan that she and McCain have to set this country on a new direction. It’s apparent to all that if we keep going down this road America will be destroyed and nothing in her speech last night addressed this fact - - the economy, job lost, health care, inflation, gas prices – I know these problems exist in Alaska too – because they are America wide and she said nothing as to what they plan to do about it and what she will do if McCain dies and she has to take over.

I no longer appeal to those who think this is a good choice. I believe you are the same voters that put Bush back for a 2nd term and therefore you are partly responsible for our demise.

But I do appeal to those out there who are not registered to vote. IF you are afraid – you should be very afraid – last night confirmed that Palin is a Manchurian Candidate if we have ever seen one.

REGISTER TO VOTE AND ON NOV. 4TH - PROCEED TO THE POLLS AND VOTE.

REMEMBER – we out number them big time – if we vote – WE WIN –America wins and American get change or at least a start. It will take more then 4 years to undo this mess. If we stay home we get another 4 years of the same mess. VOTE AND SAY ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. Take someone to the polls with you and go back and get someone else --- be them young or old, homeless, drunk, broke – whatever – just get them registered and get them to the polls to vote. Pick up a prostitute off the corner and take her to vote too.

LET’S MAKE IT OUR GOD GIVEN MISSION TO GET OUT AND VOTE FOR A BETTER AMERICA AND A REAL CHANGE. NO MORE GOP – ENOUGH!

Posted by: Dani | September 4, 2008 12:27 PM | Report abuse

To this point, I think Gov. Palin's selection has paid off tremendously. Is she the person everyone was expecting? No. Do we know everything about her? No. Is she bringing new life to the Republican ticket/party? Yes. I think that is why John McCain selected her. That is why there is newfound energy and focus on the Republican ticket. People are lining up to here what she has to say and people are listening. I believe her performance last night was great. Does she still have to hold her own during personal interviews and the VP debate? Yes. I guarantee I'll be there watching though.

Posted by: Mr. Smith | September 4, 2008 12:27 PM | Report abuse

There were many campaign buttons on th econvention floor saying "Hottest VP."

When Republicans complain about sexism is this included? If this reported on, is it the "liberal elite" and the media being sexist?

Can you have it both ways?

Posted by: somerseten | September 4, 2008 12:26 PM | Report abuse

PALIN - A WOLF IN SHEEPS CLOTHING...DO NOT BE FOOLED!

She is the McCain campaign's best effort TO GET WOMEN TO VOTE AGAINST THEIR OWN SELF INTEREST!!

Statement of NOW PAC Chair Kim Gandy on the Selection of Sarah Palin as John McCain's Vice Presidential Pick

Sen. John McCain's choice of Alaska governor Sarah Palin as his running mate is a cynical effort to appeal to disappointed Hillary Clinton voters and get them to vote, ultimately, against their own self-interest.

Gov. Palin may be the second woman vice-presidential candidate on a major party ticket, but she is not the right woman. Sadly, she is a woman who opposes women's rights, just like John McCain.

The fact that Palin is a mother of five who has a 4-month-old baby, a woman who is juggling work and family responsibilities, will speak to many women. But will Palin speak FOR women? Based on her record and her stated positions, the answer is clearly No.

In a gubernatorial debate, Palin stated emphatically that her opposition to abortion was so great, so total, that even if her teenage daughter was impregnated by a rapist, she would "choose life" -- meaning apparently that she would not permit her daughter to have an abortion.

Palin also had to withdraw her appointment of a top public safety commissioner who had been reprimanded for sexual harassment, although Palin had been warned about his background through letters by the sexual harassment complainant.

What McCain does not understand is that women supported Hillary Clinton not just because she was a woman, but because she was a champion on their issues. They will surely not find Sarah Palin to be an advocate for women.

Sen. Joe Biden is the VP candidate who appeals to women, with his authorship and championing of landmark domestic violence legislation, support for pay equity, and advocacy for women around the world.

Finally, as the chair of NOW's Political Action Committee, I am frequently asked whether NOW supports women candidates just because they are women. This gives me an opportunity to once again answer that question with an emphatic 'No.' We recognize the importance of having women's rights supporters at every level but, like Sarah Palin, not every woman supports women's rights.


Posted by: jack | September 4, 2008 12:26 PM | Report abuse

Governor Palin did the job she was supposed to do, energize the base. She was not chosen because she was a hockey mom, or because she is from a small town, or because she is a Washington outsider-she was chosen because the McCain campaign knew it had to energize the base and it picked a "right-wing" conservative to do the job, the hockey mom stuff is icing on the cake-she fits the bill, and to the right wing conservatives appear to love her. Consequently, last night Palin delivered, energizing the right wing base McCain needs to win-she delivered for the McCain campaign by helping to energize the base-however, outside of the base she is probably falling flat, and deserves a C- at most.

Posted by: Stuart James | September 4, 2008 12:26 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin seems like a nice enough person, but I really don't want an "average American hockey mom," as I heard her described by on of the Republican pundits (they described this as an advantage). I want a really smart, clever person in charge. I turned the speech off about half-way through because I found it so boring. I don't care about her family, life in Alaska, nor do I want to hear about how she took record oil profits and claimed it as her surplus. She basically described a small-town redneck life. We have one redneck in the white house. Why would I vote for another after eight years? I have plenty of redneck relatives, and I certainly don't want them running anything. The Dems are best served to sit back and give her enough rope to hang herself. I can't see how she would appeal to moderate voters.

Posted by: Doug | September 4, 2008 12:25 PM | Report abuse

Nasty and ungracious as it was, Palin displayed charisma and grit (it often appeared like she was snarling) with her debut speech. But the air went out of the moment when the robotic McCain came on stage, Frankensteined around, and could think of nothing to say. It was a reminder: the battle is at the top of the ticket. Obama/Biden forget that at their peril.

Posted by: jjc | September 4, 2008 12:25 PM | Report abuse

Interesting that Palin derided saying one thing about people in public and another thing in private--Seems she forgot to tell Peggy Noonan (former Reagan Speechwriter) who said it best:

:It's over.

Posted by: dch | September 4, 2008 12:25 PM | Report abuse

It's unfair to attack Obama for not representing blue-collar people: didn't he used to be a knob-polisher for a limo service??

Posted by: Working Man | September 4, 2008 12:25 PM | Report abuse

Now that the Republican based has been energized, this election once again will be decided by those of us not affiliated with either political party. I have voted for Reagan twice, Bush Sr. once, Bill Clinton once upon re-election, George Bush Jr.
This time I'm moving to Obama. The VP choice of McCain is too extreme and not pragmatic enough for my tastes. I thought I liked McCain. But his decision-making as the presumptive Republican nominee has left me moving far away from him and into the arms of Barack Obama.

Posted by: zepol61 | September 4, 2008 12:25 PM | Report abuse

The role of the Governor as it relates to the National Guard has no impact on foreign policy issues -- so Chris's point stands in that regard.

The Governor would only call up the National Guard in reference to a crisis within a state (e.g. usually when a natural disaster happens).

In reference to Gov. Palin's performance, the Air National Guard has been cited at a "crisis level" under her tenure due to a shortage of available personnel that "puts missions at risk" -- this was highlighted just 6 months ago. This was reported by Reuters news service today. It's been covered by the Associated Press as well.

In Gov. Palin's case we could make an excuse that some of the problems are ones that she's inherited from George W. Bush -- in the sense that the National Guard is being used in a manner that it never has been in the past (e.g. as an international force) and based on the situation that she inherited from previous Governors.

Still, there is nothing in her short-record as Governor to suggest that she is exceptional or noteworthy. At least not in the positive sense.

Posted by: JP2 | September 4, 2008 12:25 PM | Report abuse

WOW,

So only those that agree with your interpretation of the Bible have studied it? You really are a new age Pharisee. It's people like you that have given Christianity such a bad reputation around the world

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 12:24 PM | Report abuse

America voted for George W. Bush twice! You are such dumbasses. Now you are broke and whining, and you cannot drag your fat lazy asses off the couch to win wars against poor countries or angrily protest them! Now you are going to vote in George W. Bush's eunuch, Mr. McCain, because he flew a war plane and he wears a Flag lapel pin! You are a stupid people and you deserve to suffer, and we will take advantage of you, because you insist on being stupid!

Posted by: LaughingAtAmerica | September 4, 2008 12:24 PM | Report abuse

realitycheck, I'm assuming your moniker is unintentionally ironic.

Here's a hint: If you really want people to think that you're an "independent" it's best not to spew teh Limbaugh's talking points and catch phrases. No Magoo points for you.

Posted by: GrouchoMarxist | September 4, 2008 12:24 PM | Report abuse

What's with the hairdo? I like the beehive better.

Posted by: Patrick | September 4, 2008 12:23 PM | Report abuse

Oh crud.

That paid McCain poster 'aspergirl' has returned with her 'cut and paste' asinine comments.

Aspergirl, you make these boards no fun.

I'm leaving.

Posted by: Independent | September 4, 2008 12:22 PM | Report abuse

LP,

So what you are saying in your rather drawn out explanation of the National Guard is that she has the right to ask questions about the deployment and visit the troops once deployed? Great...

Yes she does "command" the Guard when they perform duties within the state of Alaska. Actually, she calls them to duty where they are commanded by their own leadership She has absolutely no command over them once deployed as part of the Federal forces.

I wasn't trying to make an "Obama point" here, I just don't see how the fact that the Guard is under the Governor counts as leadership experience. Just my opinion.

Posted by: Chris in Texas | September 4, 2008 12:22 PM | Report abuse

Gov Palin did a great job pandering and preaching to the choir. She has excellent communications skills and has that "naughty schoolteacher" appeal. BUT she said nothing, lied a lot and continued to insult the values and intelligence of Americans by focusing on oversimplification and flagwaving Unfortunarely, that worked for Bush in 2004. Watch out Obama/Biden and get a set, playing nice guy will lose!

Posted by: RockvilleRetro | September 4, 2008 12:22 PM | Report abuse

Nonagon,
I would rather have someone a little more experienced as VP, than someone totally unexperienced (like Obama) as president. She has a lot more decision making experience than he probably will ever have.

Posted by: Cliff | September 4, 2008 12:22 PM | Report abuse

This is to LaughingAtAmerica:

You say we need to "keep up with the Joneses"...in your socialist society, you now have to keep up with the Mohomeds.

Posted by: Jacko | September 4, 2008 12:22 PM | Report abuse

I think the media missed or choose to ignore a very distinct line both Palin and Rudy drew last night and did so very well.

There is a difference between inexperience and lack of action and Obama is the poster boy for both, Palin is not.

She made changes in the most deep rooted arm of the Republican Party in our largest and most often fought over, politically state and she won on every level. I don't care what they say about trooper gate- it doesn't hold a candle to the Ayers, Wright and Rezko issues. Sour family member losing a job compared to a former terrorist, bigoted minister and convicted felon? Palin will win on that level to with the voters.

No matter how the dems or the press spins it that message came through loud and clear and has made its impact.

I have to face reality and had Hillary given even one speech that had the impact of Palin's speech Obama would be a fading memory today.

I also find it ridiculous that after a week they are saying all she did was give a speech. Isn't that all Obama has done in the last 18 months? Give speeches with comments and statements stolen by opponets like Edwards? Bad road for the dems to use for attack it makes them look hypocritical yet again.

Posted by: Mel | September 4, 2008 12:21 PM | Report abuse


Now before I get hammered for commenting below on Sarah Palin's appearance, please remember this:

In America, appearance IS reality.

LOL...

Posted by: realitycheck | September 4, 2008 12:20 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, more than anything, I was put off by how mean-spirited and nasty the whole tone last night was. You expect the partisan hackery, but all I sensed--if I may be so bold--was resounding bitterness and cynicism. NOT the Party of Reagan on display last night. I don't know how this "Hope is for losers!" attitude is going to pan out (I'm pulling for poorly).

Posted by: Colby | September 4, 2008 12:20 PM | Report abuse

The double standard is she would not have been picked if she were a man. Sure she is good at reading a speech written by someone else but she was obviously selected for who she is below the waist than above the neck.

Posted by: Thom | September 4, 2008 12:19 PM | Report abuse

ANONYMOUS:

It's one thing to read it, it's another to actually study it. It's clear from your posts you failed to do the latter.

Posted by: Wow | September 4, 2008 12:19 PM | Report abuse

It was nice to see someone finally go after Obama. I don't think anyone expected her to go after him so forcefully.

Posted by: NoVAHockey | September 4, 2008 12:19 PM | Report abuse

Negativity at it's best. sure it'll rile up the right, but i really think that the people who will decide this election, the middle independents and party crossers, will find her haughty attitude distasteful.

all the speeches wednesday night were seemed really angry and hateful. it's one thing to have genuine differences with your opponent, but they seemed to genuinely hate and disrespect Obama, a sitting Senator.

the lies and distortions about Obama's record and accomplishments play to a certain (uneducated, racist) subset of the population. those people would never have voted for him anyway.

overall, it was a well delivered speech, but if it's purpose was to swing independents and women to McCain, i don't think it succeeded.

Posted by: Quan | September 4, 2008 12:19 PM | Report abuse

ok, this is directed at "Laughingatamerica" and your snide comments about the american people.
Screw you you cowardly redcoat wuss!
Who are you to dis americans and how our government works? If it wasn't for us "bad stupid americans" you'd be goose stepping and saying "heil hitler" right now. You english and europeans are always quick to point out our flaws, but when your world comes crumbling down, you always come crying to the americans to bail you out! You are the worlds greatest hypocrites!@ Now shutup and mind your own business!

Posted by: proudamerican | September 4, 2008 12:18 PM | Report abuse

Diane72 - Go away. Your comments are racist and offensive and do your party no good.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 12:18 PM | Report abuse

Palin read a speech off of a teleprompter. She did not write it. Campaign advisers coached her on how to pull off certain lines. This was an extremely negative speech, lacking in substance and designed to pander at her conservative Christian base. Made for soundbites and full of half-truths. Full of the politics of the past. And no specific plans about how to improve the economy.

Palin is too culturally backwards for modern America. It's truly scary. She says she would not allow any abortions ever - even in cases of rape or incest. She thinks Creationism should be taught in public schools. She opposes teaching any type of sex education that does not involve the abstinence approach (that works great!). She thinks homosexuality is a choice. She doesn't believe in man-made climate change. She is too far removed from what happens on Main Street USA and is completely out of touch with everone I know. As an educated, liberal, urban male I cannot relate to her in the least. And I think all the rural conservatives were already voting McCain...so what is the point? She is scaring off Independents.

And she is too inexperienced to be VP. A few months ago she said she doesn't even know what a VP does. She has little to no experience with national issues, and no foreign policy experience. She only got a passport for the first time last year.

Do we, as a country, really think Palin should be a heartbeat away from being the most powerful person in the world?

Posted by: nonagon | September 4, 2008 12:18 PM | Report abuse

Are we trying to solve the country's problems or create soundbites?

Posted by: Rob | September 4, 2008 12:18 PM | Report abuse

Y'all can say what you want. I'm independent, so I'm not beholden to either party. But politically speaking, you Dems are not facing the facts. Sarah Palin was funny last night. She was good-looking, and has nice legs. She wore a skirt. Dems are IDIOTS if they don't realize people are SICK of Hillary's pantsuits. And it's absolutely amazing that libs called Gov. Palin "shrill." LOL. Hillary's picture is next to the word "shrill" in the dictionary.

Go ahead. Underestimate her. You'll get burned very badly. A good-looking politician. Easy on the eyes. What a concept. She's a cold-Alaskan breath of fresh air. Go ahead. Deny it. Just go ahead....

Posted by: realitycheck | September 4, 2008 12:17 PM | Report abuse

Well laughingatamerica,

Then I guess it depends on your strategic objective;

If your goal is to improve the quality of life across the globe, solve problems like aids, malaria and world hunger - then you are correct that the leadership of the US sux.

BUT,
If your real goal is to start several tit-for-tat Orwellian border wars with the goal of keeping the sheeple distracted with sloganeering while you secretly hope that one will escalate so that you get to irradiate the entire planet with nuclear fallout
THEN,
you would have to admit that Bush and Cheney were quite successful indeed.

The tradedy is thus; that if McCain loses the Orwellian border wars will end. How sad for the GOP.

Posted by: Independent | September 4, 2008 12:17 PM | Report abuse

Is it obvious to anyone else but me that McCain's campaign kept their interest in Sarah Palin under deep, deep wraps. I mean, they put her through the interviews and questionnaire, etc. But he didn't have her over when others on his VP list went to his house for the weekend, and etc. He met with her once publicly.

Obama, Biden and Obama's campaign execs looked totally shell-shocked and mortified last Friday when his pick of her was announced.

I think the Obamas were suckered into being confident that the race would be between a couple of old white Republican men and the Obama ticket. Obama was totally suckered into picking Biden, positioning himself to go up against a pair of heavyweights.

McCain totally sandbagged and outflanked Obama. I think this was intended.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 4, 2008 12:16 PM | Report abuse

There's a reason the GOP was in office the last 8 years, because they're simply better. I can't wait to see what they do in the next 8 years. :-)

Posted by: Tim | September 4, 2008 12:16 PM | Report abuse

Someone should remind Michelle Shaniqua Obama that it is considered impolite to chew food with your mouth open. In my view this woman lacks the poise, grace, and good breeding to be First Lady. I saw this image of her eating a pork sandwich and I was aghast at the prospect of her entertaining in the White House. Can you imagine her sitting down to tea with Queen Elizabeth II? Do you think she will hang the god awful african art on the pristine White House walls?

Posted by: Dianne72 | September 4, 2008 12:16 PM | Report abuse

WOW

"Sounds to me like you never read it. If you indeed did, you have to research the origins of such nations and they're native tribes.
You're right, you are a pretty good liar."

I've read the Bible cover to cover cowboy. I read it every day. How sad that you have to call anyone that disagrees with you a "liar". Go back to your "Left Behind" books and wait for the second coming with Frau Palin - not that either of you would recognize Jesus when he does come again...

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 12:16 PM | Report abuse

In reference to Cheney v. Palin comparisons, I'd say that Palin is much closer to George W. Bush than Palin.

In Cheney's case, he had a long record -- not necessarily a good one, but a long one -- in public service. He also oversaw a company with more employees than Wasilla has people.

Cheney's views on foreign policy and the Constitution may have been extreme, but he actually has developed views on these issues drawn from his experience.

In the case of George W. Bush, his record in business and governance before being elected in 2000 was short and unimpressive. Much like Palin, Bush had a record of creating sizeable budget deficits -- a trait that Palin has demonstrated during her short time in public office.

Like George W. Palin is a true-believer who had spent very little time on Constitutional issues or foreign policy before assuming the presidency (e.g. remember when he couldn't name the president of Pakistan in 2000?).

In terms of experience and outlook Palin is a kindred spirit with George W. Bush.

In terms of management style, from what I understand about Palin, she probably is closer to Cheney in the sense that she's developed a reputation as a micro-manager.

Additionally, she has a reputation for letting personal grudges get in the way of professional judgment -- she doesn't have great confidence in her views, so she surrounds herself with weak junior officers.

McCain, on the other hand, has had the reputation of a hot-head who can still forgive and forget (see: Bush, George W. and Rove, Karl).

Although he is someone who has never had a management position in government -- there is a sense at least that he can brook dissent within his organization -- that loyalty is not the supreme value, but one value among many that enter into the equation.

That was McCain 2000 at least.

This McCain 2008 seems to be a different beast altogether. In terms of his judgment and his outlandish statements recently, I think he's caused many of his supporters from 2000 to re-think their views about him. Less a Maverick, more a cynical opportunist. His views on the economy and foreign policy seem to have become much less informed, and more ideological over time as well.

Posted by: JP2 | September 4, 2008 12:16 PM | Report abuse

Laughing at America:

Take a look at what has happened to the British Pound versus the dollar. Better switch to toilet paper.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 12:16 PM | Report abuse

Tom whether she did or did not write that speech, she READS a teleprompter just as good as Obama, the HUGE difference is she can also speak without it, and does not mess up and fall all over herself as Obama does.

Posted by: Valerie | September 4, 2008 12:16 PM | Report abuse

"Well good for her. I can't wait to see her when she doesn't have a script."

Same could be said for Obama. I've seen him without a script and it wasn't pretty.

I have an idea. Obama should debate Palin and Biden should debate McCain. At least that would be fair.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 12:15 PM | Report abuse

Chris,

To educate you a little more - they fall under Title 10 where they are mobilized by active duty forces. It is true that they fall under the Army but she has the decision to argue or debate the deployment of her National Guard. Obviously, you don't really understand how it truly works. The Army is working under the ARFORGEN concept - for the National Guard, they deploy for 12 months (2 months training and 10 months boots on the ground). The National Guard is supposed to deploy every five years according to ARFORGEN. National Guard units are being deployed sometimes every two years and as the Governor she has the executive decision to shape the discussion that deployments adversely affect HER Soldiers and her state. When this process plays out, she can call other Governors which occurs frequently and ask if they are willing to accept the tasking. I know this as truth. Let me continue to inform you how it really works. A tasking order comes down from the Department of the Army to mobilize a National Guard unit. If the state, more specifically the Governor makes a determination that in the best interest of their state it is advisable that the deployment is a detriment to the state, the TAG (The Adjuntant General) contacts fellow National Guard units if they can pick up the mission. If another Guard unit can fulfill it and chooses to do so then a Memorandum from TAG TO TAG is submitted to DA and the order is amended and changed. This comes directly from the Governor of the state. You are correct that once MDAY (mobilization date) is here the Guard unit that is chosen to take the mission fall under Title 10 and belong to the US Army. Also, unlike Obama who is not part of the executive branch, the Governor/Commander of the National Guard of the state will visit His/Her Soldiers in theatre.

Opposite of your point -

She still makes decisions that affect her state, the Soldiers of her state and the residents of her state. She is a decision maker. One final point - the Alaska National Guard has some of the finest Soldiers serving our country today.

LP

Posted by: LP | September 4, 2008 12:14 PM | Report abuse

jwrightus (and anybody else who believes Palin personally attacked anyone):

Give me a quote to support this assertion. Just saying she personally attacked someone doesn't make it so. This drives me crazy. Anybody who criticizes Obama is all of a sudden leveling "personal attacks"?

A well-delivered speech showing that she's no wilting flower and her sarcasm directed at those who speak down to America could have appeal. Not much substance, though, but I imagine there's plenty of time for that (debates, town halls, etc.).

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 12:14 PM | Report abuse

Thankyou you stupid B_tch.
You just handed the election to Mr. Obama.
All you did was preach to the choir.
It's going to take more than the bible thumpen, ignorant choir this year.
Stupid, stupid, stupid, woman.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 12:13 PM | Report abuse

Lydia, you have continued to ask the same thing SEVERAL times about the ALASKA pins. Sarah IS THE GOVERNOR of Alaska and it is very appropriate for her to wear the Alaska pin, as she governed that state. She is a PROUD American as her Son and Nephew are both in the military and she is proud of both of them. She has no problem like Obama does wearing the American flag pin.
Also she has not publicized it, but she has many times gone to have lunch and dinner with the military, so you are barking up the wrong tree.

Posted by: Ginni R. | September 4, 2008 12:13 PM | Report abuse

Matthew Scully in full effect. Same old lines, better delivery.

Posted by: DanielC | September 4, 2008 12:13 PM | Report abuse

All I saw was someone who knows how to read a speech (which she DIDN'T write) from a teleprompter.

Well good for her. I can't wait to see her when she doesn't have a script.

Posted by: Tom | September 4, 2008 12:12 PM | Report abuse

Icky bible verses. hate-filled attacks. Condescending attitude. Pandering to 'born again' types.

White crowd. Nary a negro in sight.

Yup, same ole' GOP.

I hate to say it but:

That's not change, that's just more of the same.

Posted by: Wailin' Palin | September 4, 2008 12:12 PM | Report abuse

Palin played well to the Republicans' right-wing Christian base, something McCain desperately needed to excite his party about his candidacy. But I didn't see anything in that speech that will appeal to the broad middle or to Democratic crossover voters. It was long on overheated, sarcastic invective and short on substance. Not one word on the economy, really, except "Keep taxes down" and "Drill, drill, drill." I don't think anyone in their right mind believes these are real solutions to the nation's very serious economic problems.

The VP candidate is clearly not ready for prime time on national issues if she can't even read from a teleprompter about them. How is she going to handle questions from real people, much less the national media? They're going to have to keep her on a very short leash, only scripted speeches before hand-picked crowds, no interaction with live interlocutors.

Posted by: Brad K | September 4, 2008 12:12 PM | Report abuse

Hey Independent!

Yes, I agree you make good weapons that smash things up! I don't want to see Americans suffer, but if you repeatedly insist on being perpetually stupid on who you elect, you deserveit, I am going to take advantage of you. Your dollar is so cheap now I use it to wipe my bunghole!

The world is snickering at America. We tried to warn you in 2004 but you were too dumb too listen. It looks the same in 2008, and I will take advantage of your stupidity!

Posted by: LaughingAtAmerica | September 4, 2008 12:11 PM | Report abuse

ANONYMOUS:

Sorry, but I had to point out your ridiculous statement below. Did you even know that Revelation is about end times prophecy. Have you even read the book?

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'As anyone who actually studies the Bible knows, Revelation isn't about prophesy, it's an attack on the Roman Empire as it existed in the 1st century.'

Posted by: Wow | September 4, 2008 12:11 PM | Report abuse

I found her speech to be vacuous and a waste of my time, but I watched it because I have this fantasy where I'm a student and she's the teacher, and I get detention so I have to stay after class, and...

Posted by: Average Joe | September 4, 2008 12:11 PM | Report abuse

She has the Cheney sneer in a Perino face, the swagger of the errant cowboy W, the voice of squeaky illogic, like all of bushco, and the stance of all the R's, condescendingly straight but ready to fall. She might even be a liar, but who isn't? Her family is in disarray, but who's isn't? On the other hand, SHE is the one they nominate for VP? We must be high comedy to those watching from outside. I'm not laughing, are you?

Posted by: preAmerikkkan | September 4, 2008 12:10 PM | Report abuse

Pakin's speech, and the run up to it, was Republican politics 101. They first took the revelation of the teenager's pregnancy, and then made it seem like that was the ONLY MSM criticism of Palin, and then closed ranks bashing everything the big bad liberal media baddies were saying. They knew most of the country (except, ironically) some of their own base would see this as just an average family problem, and that pointing out the hypocrisy of their "family values' label and the failure of abstinence only programs required too long a story, and too much thought. They're hoping all the other allegations: the flip on the Bridge, the earmark "fighter" who feeds at the trough, the Ted Stevens protege, the book burner, the "fiscal conservative" who left the little hamlet she ran for 6 years in 22 million worth of debt, Troopergate et al would be treated as skeptically by their ever believing base. And then they gave a politician who is as facile with delivering a speech as she is with the truth a red meat burger to deliver.

The bottom line is that none of the Obama supporters thought this would be an easy fight, and they underestimate Palin, even with all her baggage, at their own peril. They want a street fight--FINE--slice and dice her like the baloney she is. She wants to play in the big arena--terrific--but no whining when you get stomped on. As for McCain, the interview he gave with ABC was THE single most pathetic performance of his career. He lied with a straight face, and left his honor in the wind. If Democrats and progressives want this bad enough, we can defeat him by a landslide. But it's going to take work not wishing and some bloodlust rather than civility. Hammer them on the issues, hammer them on the contradictions, and make sure to NOT treat VP hockey Mom gently

Posted by: bklyndan | September 4, 2008 12:10 PM | Report abuse

Exactly which if any lines in the speach were actually written by the governor from Alaska? Anybody know?

Posted by: pj451 | September 4, 2008 12:09 PM | Report abuse

John McSame has destroyed himself by abandoning every principle that bought him the chance to be President. I was one of those Democrats, who was suckered by McSame into believing that he might be what he said he was - a Maverick willing to break with the G.O.P. whenever it was wrong, which was on about every issue. I even wrote to McSame, begging him to run, when given Kerry/Edwards as an alternative to Bush/Cheney. NO MORE. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me. I won't be fooled again. McSame's choice of Palin to be a heartbeat away from the toughest, most critical job in the world is the final nail in a coffin I could see being constructed long ago. In light of McSame's impulsive, reckless, and dangerous decision to pick Palin as his running mate, I'm now convinced beyond any doubt that Sen. Barack Obama must be the choice to lead my country. I simply can't stand by and watch the country I love being destroyed by Bush/Cheney and now McSame/Palin. I think a majority of my fellow citizens will agree with me as will be shown on Nov. 4, 2008. Obama/Biden 2008!!!

Posted by: caliguy55 | September 4, 2008 12:09 PM | Report abuse

Obama=ZERO my hero for accopmlishments... Good looking 130 NV's in the state senate

Posted by: dubs | September 4, 2008 12:09 PM | Report abuse

I guess it was a good speech if you do not mind blatant lying and misrepresentations. I can't hold her responsible since the speech was written one week before she was nominated. Its more of what Republicans have been doing for years. A series or rants, outright lies, and misleading statements is what you can expect from Republicans.

Posted by: Ron | September 4, 2008 12:08 PM | Report abuse

I liked Palin before we knew her background, but now I'm dead set against her.

Watching not only her speech but the whole line up was nothing more than pandering. The problem with the Republican party is they're trying to beat "service" into our heads and shove it down our throats. I'm sorry, but that's not going to work in this bad economy. I'm tired of hearing what sacrifices have been made years ago - I want to hear what you're going to do NOW!

When she took the stage, I watched for the first 20-25 minutes, and all she did was attack the media who are doing their jobs. Booo hooo lady...

I want to know about a candidate before they get elevated, and sorry - you guys didn't do your job with Bush 43. If she's getting raked over the coals, tough luck for her...the rest of this country's not going to go down again because of another incompetent. The fact she hid from the media after announcing her under age daughter's pregnancy told me she's not the kind of woman who can stand up to pressure, but folds like a house of cards.

Her radio show appearance at the beginning of this year was horrifying, and I sure as heck don't want this woman to represent me among the world leaders!

FAIL.

Posted by: SB in NJ | September 4, 2008 12:07 PM | Report abuse

It was a good stand-up monologue. Too bad she's not trying out for the Tonight Show.

Posted by: DCboy | September 4, 2008 12:07 PM | Report abuse

I love the neocons, I really do! Whenever they get backed into a logical corner they start quoting the bible and trying to make the opposing candidate look like the antichrist. We know how well that worked against John Kennedy. If the neocons had their way this great country would be a theocracy run by the American version of the taliban, the religious right. The constitution would be completely rewritten to eliminate everything but the Second Amendment. Anyone thinking "impure" thoughts would get a public whipping, gays would get the electric chair and Fox News would be the only channel on TV.

Posted by: intheknow | September 4, 2008 12:07 PM | Report abuse

I think she gave a great speech and rallied the troops ... which was the purpose of this venue. Her views and knowledge regarding the issues will be fully tested during the debate with Biden. I think she was selected to excite the base, not woo HRC voters ... women are too smart to vote only according to gender and I rather think Sen. McCain is aware of that fact.

Posted by: Virginia Mom | September 4, 2008 12:07 PM | Report abuse

Laughing at America

"Here in England, we use American dollars to wipe our bungholes"

Is that to wipe the Vaseline off of your bunghole?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 12:06 PM | Report abuse

Hey Laughingatamerica;

Great post!

I do have to disagree on a couple points;

1. We make great aircraft carriers &
2. Jet fighters to go on them &
3. Bombs, we make pretty good bombs &
4. Nukes, we got plenty of nukes &
5. Nuclear submarines to deliver the nukes

The problem is; all these things cost billions - however it creates(created) a self perpetuating economy.

Way back when, I think it was Karl Marx, said that capitalism is inherently imperialist because it has to destroy the excess production. Now Marx was an A-hole. But he got that part right. Without a war, the US economy goes down the 'gurgler' (isn't that what brits call the john?).

But you are correct. US cars bite.

Posted by: Independent | September 4, 2008 12:06 PM | Report abuse

And to LaughingatAmerica, I encourage you to look inward and see that the UK faces similar -- of not worse -- problems to ones you describe. You joined the US in invading Iraq, your cars are awful, your housing crisis is worse and deeper, you manufacture much, much less than the U.S., etc.

Posted by: Maximus | September 4, 2008 12:06 PM | Report abuse

I liked her. She was tough but friendly and clearly competent. She showcased her beautiful if imperfect family (a lot of people can relate). She blew a kiss to an old veteran. Not much substance, but a lot of identification politics, which is powerful stuff. Good strategy for McCain. She did her job, and proved that she has what it takes to fight. I think that a lot of women will relate on a personal level. Clearly, her audience was middle america. She played it well.

Posted by: emily | September 4, 2008 12:06 PM | Report abuse


VEEP CAN HELP MCSAME WITH ALL THE WORLD'S PROBLEMS WITH "MOOSE-PODS ."

Posted by: FOR SURE | September 4, 2008 12:05 PM | Report abuse

The more vitriol and hate I read about in comments and news articles the more I start to believe she's the one they really fear. Let's face it Hillary is history, Obama saw to that and McCain sealed her fate. If Obama wins it's the end of the line for Hillary. If McCain wins Palin may just be the first woman president. Obama could have wrapped it up by picking Hillary, but instead made sure the Clinton era was finished.

Posted by: karenT | September 4, 2008 12:05 PM | Report abuse

After listening to Obama, I like the things we could stand for...

After listening to Palin, I dislike the things we do stand for...

Posted by: jameo | September 4, 2008 12:04 PM | Report abuse

She has the best approach to using a teleprompter of anyone I've seen. She has good timing. She knows how to work a crowd. Makes for a good newscaster.

Posted by: susan | September 4, 2008 12:04 PM | Report abuse

Palin and her husband were wearing Alaska Flag pins rather than American Flag pins. Does this mean that Alaska is first rather than America?

Posted by: Lydia | September 4, 2008 12:04 PM | Report abuse

I think she is absolutely perfect for the Governor of Alaska. She is accomplished in her world, has a beautiful family and I am sure that she has done a fabulous job cleaning up the disgraceful mess up there.

After the intro and her kids (I may write in the 6 year old girl), I winced at the visciousness of her attacks -- she sounded like Carl Rove attack puppet. I didn't think of Harry Truman as an example of an unknown VP choice; I thought of Spiro Agnew. Dan Quayle, another obvious comparison, seemed pretty innocuous compared to this venomous creature.

No thanks.

Posted by: Donatella | September 4, 2008 12:03 PM | Report abuse

I've learned from experience the folly of being too negative. People don't like insults. When Sarah Palin and the Republican Party try to ridicule Senator Obama for massive crowds that he summons in his rallies, she's obviously going over the top. It's not so obvious or easy to make 80,000 people attend your rally. There must be something so special with you. And that's why I find it so offensive for Sarah Palin and the GOP to trash such. I hope they're not telling us that these crowds are duped or forced to attend these meetings. On November 4, the truth will come out. We will see who is exaggerating the truth.

Posted by: James | September 4, 2008 12:03 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin's speech was a home run! Or maybe since she is a "Hockey Mom" you could say she scored the "hat trick".

This is a strong, articulate woman, who knows what the American people want and need. It is not like the lip service of the Obama/Biden camp. Also since the left and the liberal main stream media are targeting her with their poisonous hate columns and reporting, she in their mind is a target that is good enough to upset the head of their "chosen one" ticket.

Also Sally Quinn just looked pathetic in her lip service that she gave on the Bill O'Reilly show. Even in our water cooler talk in the office, many of those that are registered Democrats, laughed at her dialogue, and said Sally Quinn needs to give it a rest, or at least hang up her reporting shoes.

And those grasping at things to upset Mrs. Palin like the kooks at THE DAILY KOS, Jann Wenner the owner of the pitiful US Magazine, and even the extreme left in the Senate and Congress, don’t you understand that your garbage, just makes Sarah Palin’s skin a little thicker, and makes her more determined. So go ahead with your lies and hate, it just makes you all wretched souls look like more of a loser than we already know you are.

Posted by: Marina | September 4, 2008 12:03 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin may be a Pit Bull in lipstick but Michelle Shaniqua Obama is a sasquatch in a dress.

Posted by: Dianne72 | September 4, 2008 11:41 AM

NOW THAT WAS UNCALLED FOR.....Sarah referred HERSELF to be like a Pit Bill w/ lipstick (joke?!?!?!? is was cute!!) Calling Michelle a sasquatch in a dress is just nasty and somewhat racist you F-ing BIGOT!!!

Posted by: GMTL | September 4, 2008 12:02 PM | Report abuse

ANONYMOUS:

Sounds to me like you never read it. If you indeed did, you have to research the origins of such nations and they're native tribes.
You're right, you are a pretty good liar.

Posted by: Wow | September 4, 2008 12:00 PM | Report abuse

Amen, Phil. You're longwinded, but you could not be more correct.

Posted by: Steven | September 4, 2008 11:59 AM | Report abuse

Guys this is farcical watching it as a non-US citizen, but someone who loves the US and has visited it many times. You are appointing a potential VP who has only had a passport for year for someone as a potential Pres. Is it wise to appoint McCain, someone who thinks that Iraq and Afghanistan have a common border and Iran is run by Sunnis. Is there not a common sense test for your imbecile candicates?

Posted by: Gerry NZ | September 4, 2008 11:59 AM | Report abuse

What venom; so shrill and divisive and angry it made my jaw drop. As though that would make up for her obvious lack of national or international experience.

Pit bull with lipstck, indeed.

Rush Limbaugh in a skirt.

Not what the country needs right now and I doubt voters will buy it.

Posted by: sms | September 4, 2008 11:59 AM | Report abuse

Why do liberals and democrats resort to tired rhetoric and platitudes about Republicans, Christians or conservatives as being hateful?

If anything, the shoe is on the other foot and well-educated liberals "hate" anyone they perceive as less-educated, Republican, Christian, conservative, etc.

Notwithstanding, I find that this list of comments along with its mutual name-calling and ad hominem attacks bodes ill for the future. If we cannot talk about policy without resorting to insults and character assasination, then I fear for our ability to deal with the very real problems the country faces.

The people we elect are a reflection of ourselves. That goes for Democrats as well as Republicans.

If you don't like the mud, don't sling it. Then, maybe, America might actually have a public political discourse that has an impact on politicians.

Change begins with you.

Posted by: Maximus | September 4, 2008 11:59 AM | Report abuse

I was struck by the contempt that Governor Palin and Mr. Guliani seemed to show towards Senator Obama's service as a community organizer. There is no reason to disparage him for that. Martin Luther King Jr was a community organizer. Our Founding Fathers were community organizers. I've dedicated my life to a Galilean community organizer who lifted up the poor and helpless two-thousand years ago. It's an honorable, noble calling.

Governor Palin, I salute you. You walk the walk, where so many others just talk the talk. So I urge you to please drop this ugly disregard for Senator Obama's choice twenty years ago to lend a hand to those Chicagoans that desperately needed help. It is a choice to be celebrated, not insulted.

Our nation would be a better place if we had fewer politicians, and more community organizers.

Posted by: Chris | September 4, 2008 11:59 AM | Report abuse

I want to know: what would Gov. Palin do if her daughter wanted to have an abortion?

Posted by: don06 | September 4, 2008 11:59 AM | Report abuse

I believe they are wearing the service lapel button. Cindy McCain was wearing one as well. FYI, the service lapel button may be worn by members of the immediate family of a person serving in the Armed Forces during any period of war or hostilities in which the Armed Forces of the United States may be engaged, for the duration of such period of war or hostilities.

Posted by: Re: lapel pin question | September 4, 2008 11:59 AM | Report abuse

A nasty, sniping speech by a person with a very limited world view. She has zero experience in the foriegn relations stage. Her handlers won't let her speak to the press as they know she will promptly put her foot in her mouth. The speech over all went well, preaching to the choir. As usual with McSames party, all attacks, many of which were rudely personal, and absoloutely no substance. That's what you do when you don't have anything to offer. Biden's going to tear her a new one. Giuliani's speech was the same, all jingoistic rhetoric and no helpful ideas. All that was missing was the audience chanting "nuke Iran".

Posted by: medic481 | September 4, 2008 11:58 AM | Report abuse

If she so aweful, then all you libs should keep quiet and let them self destruct.

Sarah Palin did a vantastic job with her first speech, can't wait until her first debate with that other guy.

Posted by: Kdk483 | September 4, 2008 11:58 AM | Report abuse

"...the anti-Christ will be a man in his 40s, of muslim descent"...

Um, WOW, Revelation was written 600 years before Islam even BECAME a religion.

What bigoted nonsense.
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not to mention that nowhere in Revelation, Daniel, or anywhere else in the Bible is the word "Antichrist" used in reference to the "beast" (only used in some translations of 1st and 2nd John, and not referring to Jesus's opponent in the final battle of good and evil, but rather to describe unChristian behavior/beliefs), nor is his age given. Even the fundamentalists who believe that Revelation is literal and a prophecy (as opposed to a thinly-veiled shot at Nero and the Roman Empire, in a style of writing very common to the times) argue that the "Antichrist" will be a European Jew. Some take it a step further and believe that he'll be 33, the same age Christ reached on earth.

Just another lesson for GOP wingers who claim that their faith compels them to vote Republican but don't actually know what the hell they're talking about...sort of like Sarah Palin.

Posted by: pcpatterson | September 4, 2008 11:58 AM | Report abuse

Last week McCain's campaign was;

A noun, a verb and POW.

This week his campaign is;

A noun, a verb, POW, and a hot librarian who's a right-wing zealot.

I'm not sure that helps him sway the middle-of-the-road types like me.

Posted by: Independent | September 4, 2008 11:58 AM | Report abuse

It's clear that Karl Rove's tactics win elections. The problem is, they create governments that make Americans easier and easier to ridicule. The fact that this election is still so close means that most Americans are lobotomized sheep.

Here in England, we use American dollars to wipe our bungholes.

You the SuperPower launched two wars against impoverished third world nations, and you are bungling both of them. You are too lazy to get your fat asses off the couch and win them or end them.

You don't manufacture much of anything, and most of what you do make, especially your cars, is absolute crap.

You torture people.

Hurricane Katrina made you look like jackasses.

You are borrowing money from China to buy gasoline from Saudi
Arabia so you can drive grotesquely obese SUVs to impress the neighbors.

Your indebtedness is showing. You like to look good to keep up with the Joneses, but in reality you there is snot on your coat and you can't make your credit card payments.

Go ahead, vote Republican. It means more power and influence for the rest of us! We are buying up America under your stupid noses!!

Posted by: LaughingAtAmerica | September 4, 2008 11:58 AM | Report abuse

Wow,

As anyone who actually studies the Bible knows, Revelation isn't about prophesy, it's an attack on the Roman Empire as it existed in the 1st century. But of course, you wouldn't know that because you think every word in the bible was written by God in English (preferably 18th century English). When you read the Bible I suggest you concentrate on the red words - you know, the ones attributed directly to Jesus. Especially the ones railing against new-age pharisees like you that sit in judgement of all people and wear their "piety" as a badge of honor. Hate to tell you buddy, but you're not one of the 144,000.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 11:58 AM | Report abuse

Let's pretend McCain gets elected next year. Do you really see him delegating any authority to this woman, a la Bush and Cheney? No way.

Posted by: Da Riddlah | September 4, 2008 11:57 AM | Report abuse

I thought Palin did a great job. She is smart, an effective communicator, she has done real things unlike the other party, and brings a breath of fresh air. The Dems should be very scared. She has a great history of doing what is right in the face of adversity and she didn't just vote present! Go Palin!!!! It is sad to see that so many can not see that Obama has done nothing of substance. What a sad thing! Once again Go Palin!

Posted by: Joe | September 4, 2008 11:57 AM | Report abuse

A HOMERUN WITH THE BASES LOADED
IN THE BOTTOM OF THE NINTH.

CONSERVATIVES 4 LIBERALS 0

Posted by: sonnysideup34 | September 4, 2008 11:56 AM | Report abuse

And she didn't need a $6 million stage in a coliseum with fireworks to have a blowout night!

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 4, 2008 11:56 AM | Report abuse

It has been a long time (20 years)since I took Speech class, but from what I remember, I would have to give both Palin and Guliani a C grade. There were far too many pauses in the speeches, and it didn't play well on TV. I got bored during both, saying to myself, are they done yet? The boisterous crowd hindered the delivery of the speeches greatly.

I also thought the speeches were delivered in a monotone. A reporter was calling Guliani a"professional" speaker, but doesn't he know about inflections?

Finally, the speeches lacked a crescendo. They didn't build up to a fantastic end, they just kind of ended.

Posted by: Bill Lewis | September 4, 2008 11:56 AM | Report abuse

The Republican attack dogs were set off early - critics of Sarah Palin are "elitist" (a favourite insult used by the priviliged super rich Republican congressmen and Senators) or "sexist". NO, the reason that anyone other than the Republican faithful are worried about her is that she is a small minded conservative. While her speech last night was noted for making a number of cheap digs at Obama; Biden and Reid - it stank of the conservatism which has led to the declining fortunes of the USA.

Conservatism is a symptom (and a further cause) of a nation in decline. Those who are comfortable (or think they are better than their fellow citizens) concentrate on holding on to what they have got. An ascendant nation has to be radical - and bold. It has to have a purpose of improving things. It seeks to harness all its people - and aspires to improvement not holding on. Conservatism is about living off the achievements of the past, not building an ever better future. It isn't true to our ancestors, but a betrayal of them.

This is truly a key election for America. It can rise to its promise - or choose the path of decline that English conservatives chose for Britain.

Posted by: eliza | September 4, 2008 11:55 AM | Report abuse

"Wow", I read Revelation 13 and Genesis 16 and there is nothing there saying that "the anti-Christ will be a man in his 40s, of muslim descent, who will deceive the nations with his persuasive language, and have a massive appeal." You are aware that the Book of Revelation was either written around 68 or 69 AD or 95 or 96 AD, while the Islamic faith was not established until the 7th Century AD?

To LIE about scripture is really shameful on your part. You should ask yourself, WWJD?

Posted by: anonymous | September 4, 2008 11:55 AM | Report abuse

I found her speech aloof and condescending.

I really, really don't want the rightwing, born again, speaking in tongues, faith healers telling me how to live my life.

But I do like that she's a hunter. But she shouldn't try to brag about it. Killing a large animal is a traumatic experience if you've ever done it.

Posted by: Joe Sixpack | September 4, 2008 11:55 AM | Report abuse


If there was ever any doubt that McCain is tied to the hip to the "agents of intolerance, the Armageddon crack pots", can there be any doubt now after his VP pick and the Republican hate fest last night?

Posted by: Crazy/Crazier 08 | September 4, 2008 11:53 AM | Report abuse

As an aged former hockey player from MN I don't think my Mom was "pitbull" even without her lipstick. How pathetic that she used that line.

Posted by: jsherMN | September 4, 2008 11:53 AM | Report abuse

Tick, Tock, Tick, Tock! That's Sarah Palin's 15 minutes of fame ticking away. I found her shrill and extremely negative. Not once in her speech did I hear one thing about what a McCain/Palin ticket would do for the country. It was just a continual stream of sound bite zingers about 'how horrible Obama is.' I'm sorry if you entire platform is just spewing against the other candidate then you're really not giving me a reason to vote for you when our country faces so many challenges. Tick, Tock!

Posted by: dre7861 | September 4, 2008 11:53 AM | Report abuse

Gov Palin did a great job pandering and preaching to the choir. She has excellent communications skills and has that "naughty schoolteacher" appeal. BUT she said nothing, lied a lot and continued to insult the values and intelligence of Americans by focusing on oversimplification and flagwaving Unfortunarely, that worked for Bush in 2004. Watch out Obama/Biden and get a set, playing nice guy will lose!

Posted by: RockvilleRetro | September 4, 2008 11:53 AM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin would do well to remember that Jesus was a community organizer.

So was John Lewis, the guy John McCain said at Saddleback he would rely on for advice.

Other community organizers: Martin Luther King, Gandhi, John Hancock (he organized that little tea party here in Boston).

Color me not impressed.

Posted by: truth | September 4, 2008 11:52 AM | Report abuse

What I heard in Sarah Palin’s acceptance speech was not confidence, but rather almost breathtaking arrogance. While this could be the work of the speechwriters or John McCain’s underlying vision, she delivered the speech so well, it is difficult to say that it doesn’t reflect her own mindset. I heard not even the slightest sense of appreciation or humility for how extraordinary her leap from backwater politics to Washington really is. There was no sense that the media, the Democrats, and yes, the people of this country have a desire and need to know who this individual is and what her qualifications really are. She seems to believe that she is entitled to be Vice President and that we, the people she professes she wishes to serve, have no right to know about her life, her views, and her record.

It is disingenuous for the Republicans to suggest that the Media is at fault for the excesses of the National Enquirer or the blogosphere. Of course, in our current environment there’s always going to be someone exploiting half truths and sordid rumors. It’s not as if this unwanted exposure has been limited to Sarah Palin. We all know now that Obama is a Muslim extremist. We heard it on Fox and on the internet. At least it’s true that Bristol Palin is pregnant. It’s also not so far fetched that some people might think it’s relevant, given Sarah Palin’s views on abortion, abstinence-only sex education, and her vetoes of funding for shelters for unwed mothers.

She was certainly quick to belittle Obama’s work has a community organizer and by extension, belittle anyone trying to make a difference in the lives of the poor and unemployed. I’d suggest that she take a walk through some of the poor and desperate neighborhoods in America, without a bullet proof vest, armed escort, and helicopter support and determine whether Obama and others like him might be doing “real” work. Whatever the supposed “responsibility” attached to any job, whether there’s more responsibility attached to being a small town mayor or a community organizer, people can do their work well or badly. Americans of all stripes want to know if Sarah Palin did her work well or poorly, in the public interest or narrow ideological interests, for the good of the few or the many.

I also heard much resentment in the speech. Clearly, Republicans and perhaps McCain personally resent the fact that Obama has received so much glowing attention (ignoring the savage attacks surrounding the Reverend Wright), that the stupid people of America and the media have been hoodwinked by such an utter and transparent fraud, when John McCain, son and grandson of Admirals, POW, and campaign finance reformer is so obviously the “Real One”. Note that Obama has never made such a claim for himself. Not content to argue with Obama on the merits of his policy choices and views or quibble about his experience, the goal seems to be to eviscerate him.

When the smoke clears after all her glowing paeans to the mythical John McCain, what will be left? Let’s not talk about John McCain’s lackluster performance at the Naval Academy. Let’s not talk about his less than stellar military career. Let’s not talk about McCain the adulterer who left his disabled wife for the beer baroness and to further his ambitions. Let’s not talk about the ethically challenged legislator of Keating 5 notoriety. Let’s not talk about his flip flops on the Bush tax cuts or torture or immigration reform or coastal drilling. Let’s not even discuss his apparently flawed VP vetting process. No, John McCain has always put America first.

Ms. Palin and the Republicans will lie about Obama’s plans on taxes, and somehow justify further massive tax cuts, but offer nothing to say how they will pay for the ongoing military debacle in Iraq and McCain’s seemingly limitless and endless war on Islamic fundamentalism. While they’re in the Twin Cities, McCain and his running mate should drive over to Route 35 and tell us all how they’re going to pay for thousands of bridges to somewhere. Or should we just let them all fall down? We won’t be driving much in a few years anyway.

The obvious rejoinder to Ms. Palin’s hockey mom joke is clearly, “Oh, I didn’t know that pit bulls wore lipstick.”

Posted by: jim | September 4, 2008 11:51 AM | Report abuse

As someone who liked (really really really liked) John McCain in 2000 and supported Hillary in 2008, I watched for some sort of substantial reaching out talk. I was encouraged that the glass ceiling got a mention. But after that? Not much.

Republicans are at their best when they come across as basically ignoring the Democrats as inconsequential to the problems at hand. Reagan did that well.
("There you go again...") Palin did the opposite.

If Palin wants to reach Hillary voters, there will have to be some substantial education, health care, environment talk at some point. Unfortunately, last night was when she had the biggest possible audience of Hillary people, and she did not.

Posted by: notquitepersuaded | September 4, 2008 11:51 AM | Report abuse

What lies did Sarah Palin said? Some people, the media, and the elitists will hear what they want to hear and ignore what was clearly and loudly said in the GOP convention. This woman, Sarah Palin is a REAL mother, a REAL middle-class worker, a REAL reformer. She is FOR REAL, hello! None in the Democratic candidate comes close. Some say the speech was "divisive" I think it is distinguishing. It distinguished the God-fearing Republicans to those who don't honor the God who gave this country its beginnings, its rich heritage and greatness by allowing the killing of babies and harvesting of young lives who can't defend their right to existence. It distinguished McCain and Palin who uses their careers to challenge and change the status quo against the Obama/Biden ticket who touts change to promote their careers. John McCain and Sarah Palin are the real agents of change, and you can take that to the bank.

Posted by: Arthur P in Florida | September 4, 2008 11:51 AM | Report abuse

The socialists on this blog are pathetic. These same comments could have been made about Obama's speech and Biden's nomination. Why don't you all wake up. Face it, if either party is elected taxes will be increased. We're a Federalist system. We haven't been a Republic since Lincoln. States should be supporting their own not the Feds. Where in the U.S. Constitution does it prohibit a U.S. State from seceding from the Union? I suggest some reading of the U.S. Constitution and the Federalist Papers. I guess it's funny when VT or Key West want to secede but not Alaska?!!! We're lucky that we are able to write our thoughts and ideas in an open forum without being imprisoned or maimed. I have to appreciate our political system no matter how slimy it can make a person feel at times.

Posted by: Halka | September 4, 2008 11:51 AM | Report abuse

"And what about all that yellowcake uranium we've found in Iraq? Oh, don't expect to read about it on the front page of the WaPo, of course.

Open your brain and use it."

Posted by: Rufus | September 4, 2008 11:26 AM

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Open your own brain, Rufus. Bush himself admitted that Iraq had no WMDs (which I presume would include yellow cake uranium). Watch and learn the facts: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_A77N5WKWM

Posted by: intheknow | September 4, 2008 11:50 AM | Report abuse

If I’m a democrat I’d stop belittling Sarah Palin and realize:

She is a formidable politician
McCain’s big bet on her looks as it may be a winner
It’s a mistake to underestimate her
She knows how to give a speech
She can probably handle herself very well one on one
This election just got a lot tougher
Obama can lose

To follow the path many here are taking, to insult and minimize what you saw last night is a big mistake. Never ever ever underestimate your opponent’s strengths.

You are falling into the trap the Republicans so often fell into with Bill Clinton. They underestimated his abilities and over played their hand. He beat them time and again.

Posted by: ju | September 4, 2008 11:50 AM | Report abuse

what happens when you make a last minute choice when it becomes clear that your party won't let you pick Lieberman and you settle for trying to energize the right wing base?

you don't do enough homework to avoid trying to sell her as an anti waste, anti earmark, anti good old boy anti lobbyist reformer because you don't know that her record proves she is none of the above.

she excited the folks who have already drunk the kool aid, but if the dems are smart enough to just leave the family issues and lack of experience alone (the media will take care of that) they can just perfectly safely point out that she's a fraud.

Posted by: JoeT | September 4, 2008 11:50 AM | Report abuse

Governor Palin was as eloquent as one could be for someone to have just gotten the nomination less than a week ago. I also respect the fact that she is a hockey mom from a small town. That she was a mayor for a small town. That she grew up with small town roots. And of course that she is for small town America. What does that mean for the rest of us who are not in or from a small town? Are our values, beliefs and work ethic not what this great land was built on as well. No I did not grow up or live in a small town, but should I feel bad about it? Should I be shameful for living a suburban/ urban life style? I got a glimpse of Governor Palin last night. And for all of her talk she excluded millions of American's who were not from where she was from. Further more every Republican speaker insulted and downgraded every community activist from both big and small towns alike. Although the president of the United States is a very important job, it is those individuals who fight in their local communities to directly affect change to the people who feel it most. I understand that Governor Palin, Senator McCain and the rest of the Republican party must go on the attack against Obama. But how can you say in one breath that the comments Obama made, and subsequently apologized for, about small town American's was wrong and disrespectful, and in the same breath make an equally demeaning and disrespectful comment about community activist who invest their time to fight for the people and make lives in big cities and small towns alike better for everyone.
This election is causing a divide and in times like these we need as much unity as we can. There is far too much emphasis being placed on one segment of the country and not enough on the whole. It’s almost as they think that the current state of the economy, the war in Iraq, and various other social issues do not affect us. Last time I check the 9/11 attacks were in the great cities of New York and Washington DC. Not so much in rural Alaska or Iowa. I am truly frightened at what will be in store for me and others like me should McCain and Palin take office

Posted by: Am I a part of Palin's America? | September 4, 2008 11:49 AM | Report abuse

Uh Lydia,

Duh, they're wearing Alaska pins because that's where they're from. :-)

Posted by: to 'Lydia' | September 4, 2008 11:49 AM | Report abuse

"...the anti-Christ will be a man in his 40s, of muslim descent"...

Obama's too narcissistic and journey-of-self focused do the hard, hands-on and executive work of being an anti-Christ.

But speaking of anti-Christs, Gloria Steinem, perennial unnatural woman, affected feminist with zero leadership this year as female executive-trashing, misogynistic glee has unfolded on the national stage to beat on first Hillary Clinton and now Sarah Palin, has posted an out-of-touch screed that is by now irrelevant.

Steinem declares, "Sarah Palin shares nothing but a chromosome with Hillary Clinton. She is Phyllis Schlafly, only younger."

No, Gloria, Palin and Clinton are totally different. Female politicians aren't uniform creatures.

No, Sarah Palin is not Phyllis Schafly. Your comment shows how old, outdated and pointless your opinionating is.

Gloria Steinem is totally useless. Where were the Democratic feminists earlier this year as Clinton was trashed with misogynistic, female-executive bashing memes day in and day out? What a partisan tool and hypocrite!

Gloria, Sarah Palin is an entirely new thing. You wouldn't recognize her because she comes from the land of real people, whole women and not half-alive, shallowly feminine women such as Democratic feminists.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 4, 2008 11:49 AM | Report abuse

LP---

"First, she is the commander of the Alaska National Guard who is serving our country in support of the GWOT. the Alaska National Guard has deployed in support of the Global War on Terrorism. Governor Palin makes the decisions that affects the lives of these Soldiers"

Absolutely, patently false. Once National Guard forces are called to active duty they are under the command of the Army, Navy, Marines, Airforce. From that point on they are funded and commanded by the US government.

Posted by: Chris in Texas | September 4, 2008 11:48 AM | Report abuse

Since much of this speech was written by the GOP before the VP candidate was even chosen, about all she proved was her skill at reading canned words on a TelePrompTer. She's going to have to do a lot better than this to prove herself worthy of this great responsibility.

Posted by: Tony in Idaho | September 4, 2008 11:48 AM | Report abuse

As expected, Sarah Palin delivered a well-crafted speech. And as expected, she delivered the speech with consummate style and panache. And as could be predicted, the pasty crowd in the convention center greeted her remarks with adoration.

However, even a brief review of her speech reveals that behind the glitz it was a warmed up re-hash of the standard GOP attack points against Obama.

Palin did not offer a single new piece of information about herself or her vision for America. She tried unsuccessfully to knock down Obama for his appeal to the generosity, compassion, and service impulses of the American people.

Most importantly Palin failed to address the serious concerns most Americans have about her thin credentials. It was comically pathetic (or pathetically comic) to hear this shallow, untested person attempt to attack Obama on the question of experience.

Palin (PTA head, small-town mayor, small-time governor, really?) has no experience of relevance to the office which she seeks. Her smarmy disregard for the complexity of the economic and international issues facing our country, coupled with her documented support for the seccessionist Alaskan Independance Party suggests that she is not much of a real patriot.

Other than establishing without a doubt that she is indeed female, Sarah Palin has not succeeded in address a single question concerning her qualifications for the vice presidency. I want to hear about her plans for non-petroleum sources of new energy. What does she suggest as solutions for the mortgage crisis? How will she and McCain get our nation back on track and generating new jobs? How doe Palin feels we can get out of the disasterous war in Iraq? What is her approach to the looming challenges of a resurgent China and India? These are the important issues facing our country today and unfortunately, Sarah Palin is thoroughly clueless about any of them.

Most importantly, Palin's speech underlined the grave disservice that John McCain has committed in picking her as his vice president. He has excercised deplorable judgment, caved in to the desires of the most decadent wing of the extremist elements of the Republican party, and proven that he is incapable of leading his own campaign. He has trivialized the most important election of our lifetime.

Therefore McCain has established without a doubt that he is not qualified to lead this nation.

McCain is a risky, dangerous choice and should not be elected president of the United States.


Posted by: dee | September 4, 2008 11:48 AM | Report abuse

I found Palin's speech to be good where insults are concerned (who didn't she insult?). It reminded me of George Bush debating John Kerry--heavy on personal attacks to destroy credibility, but very sparse on actual substance.

She hammered her one talking point, drilling, which has already been dismissed by economists as a gimmicky non-solution to both energy crises and the cost of fuel.

Aside from a bevy of witty jabs at everyone outside the GOP, Palin's speech failed to impress. No policy specifics, no economic plan...nothing of substance to get America back on track.

Posted by: jwrightus | September 4, 2008 11:47 AM | Report abuse

If she hit it out of the park, how large was the park?

Posted by: Lydia | September 4, 2008 11:47 AM | Report abuse

Experience without judgement is worthless. This ticket demonstrates they lack judgement.Selection of Palin demonstrated a total lack of judgement, and her speech demonstrated a total lack of judgement.

As usual the GOP is talking out of both sides of their mouth. According to Rove http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-jrk2e0MMs
Tim Kaine's experience was not good enough to be the Democratic VP nominee. If Kaine's not qualified, Palin doesn't come close.

Posted by: vmi98mom | September 4, 2008 11:47 AM | Report abuse

The Republicans have a SERIOUS image problem. After last night's OLD and TIRED "bull dog" theatrics. Voters are TURNED OFF thanks to the RNC. They put out a convention that LACKED any level of political substance and validity.

Instead their whole focus was spewing nothing but divisiveness and attacks. i mean Jesus, where was the SUBSTANCE on the issues?

1. WHERE was their clear message on HOW they plain on fixing our economy?

2. HOW do they plan on ending the WAR in iraq? AND has John McCain ever apologize for VOTING YES on this un-necessary WAR? Sen. Hillary Clinton did.

3. HOW do they plain to provide UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE? John McCain is NOT hurting he has a $100 million dollar wife who can afford the BEST healthcare money can buy. John McCain gets disability check AND gets the BEST Healthcare as a U.S. Senator. So where does that leave ME and YOU and YOUR families who weren't born with a "silver spoon" in our mouths?

4. NEVER heard a word on how their going STOP spending $BILLIONS of dollars a month in Iraq and START putting that money towards, healthcare, education and providing JOBS for middle class families in this country!!!!

5. NO Word on How to pay down our TRILLION DOLLAR deficit, thanks to this Republican Administration that John McCain himself has stated he supported 90% of the times for 28+ years!!!

6. NO word on how to bring AMERICAN JOBS back and pay us our WORTH!!!! We all don't have the luxury of having a $100 million dollar wife flying us around in her "private luxury jet".

7. NO word on HOW they are going to deal with Osama Bin Laden. John McCains claiming "I'll hunt him down into the gates of hell" is just nothing but a WAR MONGERING gimmick. Osama Bin Laden has been in Afghanistan ALL along. John McCain isn't fooling anyone, he couldn't FIND Osama Bin Laden if he was sitting smack center at the RNC convention tonight!!! Let's keep it real! Talk is cheap and that's ALL John McCain has been doing is talk, talk...talk, but NO actions.

The Republicans have failed miserably in making their case at the RNC. They blew it big time. They focused on ALL the wrong things and NEVER put "country first". They put politics FIRST!!

Anyone can talk trash, that's easy. BUT do you have the solid ground to back it up. Clearly the Republican Party does not.

Posted by: Ellie | September 4, 2008 11:47 AM | Report abuse

There is very little critical thinking evident in the vast majority of these comments. Just a bunch of knee-jerk reactions from both colors.

Posted by: pbrother2112 | September 4, 2008 11:47 AM | Report abuse

Seems like there are a lot of anti-Palin responses, which usually indicates fear.

May the best candidate win! :)

Posted by: Scott | September 4, 2008 11:46 AM | Report abuse

09.04.2008

WASHINGTON (AP) — A former chief executive of construction firm KBR Inc. has pleaded guilty to federal bribery charges in connection with the company's natural gas operations in Nigeria from 1995 to 2004.

The Justice Department said Albert "Jack" Stanley entered a guilty plea Wednesday in federal court in Houston to conspiring in a decade-long scheme to bribe Nigerian government officials in return for engineering and construction contracts.

As CEO of Houston-based KBR, Stanley headed a subsidiary within Halliburton Co., the oilfield services conglomerate whose chief executive from 1995 to 2000 was Vice President Dick Cheney.

Stanley also pleaded guilty to a separate count of conspiring to defraud KBR and others, admitting to receiving $10.8 million in kickbacks from a consultant hired by the company at his behest.

Under his plea agreement, Stanley, 65, faces a sentence of seven years and payment of $10.8 million in restitution.

The government said the seven-year term is the longest sentence to date against an individual in a case involving the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act, which makes it unlawful to bribe foreign government officials or company executives to obtain or retain business.

A number of U.S. and foreign companies have been charged with violating the law in recent years, in cases involving payments to officials in Nigeria, Ecuador, Iraq, China, Iran and Kazakhstan.

"Today's plea demonstrates that corporate executives who bribe foreign government officials in return for lucrative business deals can expect to face prosecution," acting Assistant Attorney General Matthew Friedrich said in a statement.

Stanley acknowledged in his plea that a four-company joint venture including KBR paid about $182 million to consulting companies that then paid bribes to several Nigerian government officials.

In a separate settlement with the Securities and Exchange Commission, Stanley agreed to an injunction against future violations of the securities laws and to cooperate in the SEC's ongoing investigation. He neither admitted nor denied wrongdoing in that settlement.

Stanley was chief executive of KBR until 2001, and its chairman until June 2004. He has cooperated "and will continue to cooperate with the government," said his attorney Larry Veselka.

The Justice Department and the SEC have been investigating for some time the alleged bribery scheme in Nigeria involving Kellogg, Brown & Root, now called KBR, and three other companies — from France, Italy and Japan. The investigation centered on a contract for a $4 billion Nigerian liquefied natural gas plant that was awarded in 1995 to a consortium of the four companies.

KBR, a major engineering and construction services company with operations around the world, was split off as a separate public company from Halliburton last year.

In November 2006, Halliburton agreed to the SEC's request for more time to investigate the alleged bribery scheme. The agreement also gave Halliburton more time to make its case to the SEC against possible civil charges under the foreign corruption law.

Halliburton fired two consultants, including Stanley, for violating the company's business code of conduct by receiving "improper personal benefits" related to the consortium's construction of the Nigerian plant.

Posted by: jameo | September 4, 2008 11:45 AM | Report abuse

Shattered! All the hard work men and women did, through organizations in this country, to discourage teen pregnancy here in America. The sleazy Palin family parading their un-wed pregnant 17 year old daughter in front of thousands of families in this country sending the message “teen pregnancy is the way to go”. It is time the right wing Republicans send a message to McCain and Palin that this is not acceptable. This increase of teen pregnancy will sky rocket by April 2009, unless Americans send the message “no, no, and no McCain/Palin”.

Posted by: mzbond | September 4, 2008 11:45 AM | Report abuse

Palin and her husband were wearing Alaska Flag pins rather than American Flag pins. Does this mean that Alaska is first rather than America?

Posted by: Lydia | September 4, 2008 11:45 AM | Report abuse

On so many levels, Palin is just like Bush -- unfortunately, for most people, that's not a very favorable comparison.

Palin is great for rallying the conservative base of the party, the 15-20% who still approve of Bush -- the people in the convention hall. Another 20-25% are persuadable Republicans. Not too sure how far her message travels beyond that 40-45%. Outside the likely Red States, does she really affect the 10-15% squishy undecided in the middle? I'm not too sure. We'll see.

Obama needs to hit McCain/Palin on their perceived strengths: they are not reformers; they are hypocites who can only deliver more of the same. They have no new ideas; they are extremists who share the same ideology as Cheney & Bush. Their "Ownership Society" is really an "on your own" society, where a right-wing administration threatens your civil liberties and takes away your choices.

I should hope the last 8 years would have taught the American people a few lessons about trusting glib, faith-based, anti-government politicians with the heavy responsibility of the US Government and US leadership in the free world.

Posted by: eliot | September 4, 2008 11:44 AM | Report abuse

Ummmm ANONYMOUS-
600 years before the bible?
Have you ever heard of biblical prophecy?
Maybe you should try cross-referencing scripture. Try reading Revelation 13, or if you want, go way back to Genesis 16, for a little self review.
Uneducated bigot.

Posted by: Wow | September 4, 2008 11:44 AM | Report abuse


I missed the great speech! Palin is a pedestrian speaker at best! Palin voice was grating and the speech offered not solutions to improve the quality of life for working people. Once again, she used her children as props!

Posted by: lydia | September 4, 2008 11:43 AM | Report abuse

"Hocky Mom" "PTA"

Palin said it and women fell for it.

Posted by: Josie R | September 4, 2008 11:43 AM | Report abuse

I have been reading the comments and have concluded that the speech was as I expected, full of attacks.

Republicans turned me off when they had the White House, Congress and majority on the Court and did nothing about abortion.

So, now I vote on issues that affect me personally. Abortion doesn't affect me because i am not going to have to decide whether or not to have one.

I gave up on republicans and had no interest in them or their convention.

BTW - Card carrrying Libertarian voting democrat.

republicans have no shame parading this dysfunctional family around as if they represent the country.

Posted by: OnefreeMan | September 4, 2008 11:42 AM | Report abuse

Amazing how liberals know little about leadership. First, she is the commander of the Alaska National Guard who is serving our country in support of the GWOT. the Alaska National Guard has deployed in support of the Global War on Terrorism. Governor Palin makes the decisions that affects the lives of these Soldiers, the budget to send them and more importantly the lives of the family members affected by the deployment. That fact alone proves her leadership and her decision making. That is a fact. She has to make decisions on budget issues and has to make critical decisions concerning the residents of Alaska. Obama has not led at any capacity and even Democrats such as his VP Biden chose McCain over Obama. What really amazes me is that Obama had the opportunity to choose the most appropriate candidate for VP in Hillary Clinton where 18 million voters echoed that sentiment in the voting booths compared to 9000 votes for Biden. Biden didn't even get all the votes in his home state. As a conservative, if Obama chooses Clinton he has locked up the Presidency hands down but you must wonder, he was afraid to put her on the ticket for what reason - plain and simple - she is more qualified than him. Finally, liberals continue to blame the President for all the problems with a 34% approval rating as opposed to the democratically controlled congress whose approval rating is an overwhelming 9%. This is not a monarchy and we don't have a king. I thought it was our elected representatives who draft legislation and are the agents of change. One man doesn't run the country - 2/3 majority overrides any veto. Can it be that the Democrats in Congress just can't get it done? Men and women serving our country work until the job is done - Congress (democrats and republicans continue to vote and pass the money to support our troops in harms way). Again, amazing their vote alone supports the President's position. As our nation continues to struggle on key issues our congress continues to take more breaks than any employee of any organization I know. When Soldiers, firefighters, police officers and everyday hard working Americans work overtime and put in countless hours our Congress votes themselves a payraise and takes a recess. I thought it was our democratically controlled congress's job to solve the problem in Iraq. The great orator Obama surely could have went over there and provide a workable solution to get out of Iraq by working with his colleagues to figure it out. Instead, our military is conducting nation building and restoring faith in democracy while Congress continues to blame one man.

Also, when Obama went to visit our Soldiers in Afghanistan the media showed him shooting basketball with Soldiers in a gymnasium. I rec'd several emails from friends serving over there and were in a formation waiting to meet him. According to the Soldiers (not the media) he got out of his armor plated vehicle guarded by Soldiers and went inside the briefing tent. He did not recognize the Soldiers in formation or even wave at them. I'll remind you these are the Soldiers who live with the Afghan people developing a relationship and trying to serve, protect and train them. To simplify it for you - these are the Soldiers fighting the war on the ground and he couldn't even acknowledge them. However, he did shoot basketball with Soldiers whose job for many of them is to stay in the compound and not venture out into harm's way.

I know the media is "unbiased" but Soldiers are volunteers who work 18-20 hours a day and just wanted the Democratic Nominee for President to acknowldege them but I'm sure his staff of many advised him not to. Again, a great sign of leadership by following what your staff lays out in his agenda for the day.

Democrats are all up in Arms over Governor Palin and over the next several weeks you will focus on attacking her when all you talk about are the issues. From the standpoint of issues - isn't that debate between the two Presidential candidates? I appreciate your efforts to attack her as truly the way to avoid the issues where Obama really has no concrete plan. I am a man and I believe it scares the democratic base and the far left liberals that a female governor is now looked as a person who would make a better President than the Democratic nominee - check the Rasmussen Polls. This poll conducted before her speech last night.

Democrats are worried and you should be - Governor Palin is a tremendous pick and she will weather the storm and when the election is over the overwhelming comment will be from the democrats "he should have picked Hillary".

Lastly, you can't admit it - Hillary Clinton feels betrayed by her party she has supported her entire professional career and the question remains - is she silently hoping he loses so she can say i told you so and will prepare her campaign for 2012 where she will be facing VP Palin for the Presidency.

Hats off to Governor Palin!!!!!!

Posted by: LP | September 4, 2008 11:42 AM | Report abuse

looks like the Post's usual readership is coming out in droves to attack Ms Palin....but that is to be expected.

Posted by: oldhat | September 4, 2008 11:42 AM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin may be a Pit Bull in lipstick but Michelle Shaniqua Obama is a sasquatch in a dress.

Posted by: Dianne72 | September 4, 2008 11:41 AM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin in her own words speaking about getting earmarks from Washington:

"Representative Don Young, especially God bless him, with transportation -- Alaska did so well under the very basic provisions of the transportation act that he wrote just a couple of years ago. We had a nice bump there. We're very, very fortunate to receive the largesse that Don Young was able to put together for Alaska."

http://www.npr.org/blogs/secretmoney/2008/09/palins_record_on_earmarks.html

"receive the largesse" - nice.

When she said "Thanks but no thanks" on the Bridge to Nowhere - she kept the money.

Seems to me her principle virtues are:
She's a girl.
She's pro-life.
She's a Republican.
Once you run through that list - she's got nothing.

Posted by: NoOneImportant | September 4, 2008 11:39 AM | Report abuse

Wow @ 11:28 -- You are an idiot.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 11:39 AM | Report abuse

took this off the Alaskan blog site
http://mudflats.wordpress.com/category/sarah-palin

This is an excerpt of a discussion about how Mrs. Palin embellished a bit on her support/non support of the bridge to nowhere.

"Reeeeally.

Check out these entries from the Ketchikan Daily News:

“People across the nation struggle with the idea of building a bridge because they’ve been under these misperceptions about the bridge and the purpose,’ said Palin, who described the link as the Ketchikan area’s potential for expansion and growth.

Palin said Alaska’s congressional delegation worked hard to obtain funding for the bridge and that she ‘would not stand in the way of the progress toward that bridge’.
8-8-06

‘We need to come to the defense of Southeast Alaska when proposals are on the table like the bridge and not allow the spinmeisters to turn this project or any other into something that’s so negative,’ Palin said.”
Ketchikan Daily News 9-28-06

Alaska Senator Ted Stevens (currently under indictment) and Representative Don Young (currently under investigation) were the bridge’s two biggest proponents. But they were unable to convince Congress to fund the infamous bridge from Ketchikan to Gravina Island at the levels it had hoped. Now, instead of Alaska paying $160 million, the cost to Alaska skyrocketed to $349 million.

After federal funding had been slashed, Palin was asked if she was still in support of funding the project. She said:

Yes. I would like to see Alaska’s infrastructure projects built sooner rather than later. The window is now–while our congressional delegation is in a strong position to assist."
"\

Posted by: anghiari | September 4, 2008 11:39 AM | Report abuse

Nothing special, I find it to me mean, snyde no great effect, her annunciation of words need lots of practice, preferable a speech therapist. The only thing going for her is that she is a woman, cannot compete with Hilary, we women should not be fooled she is a BIB FLASH IN TH PANTS.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 11:38 AM | Report abuse

To my mind, a vote for Obama/Biden is a vote for letting someone else's kid die in this or the next unpleasant little war. And we know one will come.

. . . What planet are you on?


Posted by: Mark Tillman | September 4, 2008 11:24 AM

Huh? How is a vote for Obama/Biden a vote FOR irresponsible war? After 8 years of Mr. Bush, who avoided meaningful service, and Mr. Cheney, who had other priorities as he took multiple deferments, you are really drinking the GOP KoolAid.

McCain thinks the Iraq war was a good decision and is unconcerned about the underfunded, undermanned war in Afghanistan. Obama opposed the invasion of Iraq and would use our State Department appropriately to avoid wars we can avoid without risking our national security.

The facts are that voting with the GOP this year is a vote AGAINST the prudent strategic use of our troops in the vigorous protection of our nation.

What planet are you on, Mark?

Posted by: Cynthia | September 4, 2008 11:38 AM | Report abuse

Mark Tillman - did you READ the rest of my comment?! I am a blue collar kid, and, emphatically, No, I don't want your blue collar kids to have to go to war. I don't want my kids - regardless of what careers they elect to have - to have to go to war. I want them to have other opportunities, and other options. I want a president - and a government - that actually recognizes that we send our poor to fight for us, and that we are not in a position to afford the luxury of sending them anywhere else for a while.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 11:38 AM | Report abuse

It is time for a reality check. From Jan 1981 to Jan 1993, the budget deficit grew at an average annual rate of 350 billion dollars. From Jan 1993 to Jan 2001, it grew at an annual rate of 190 billion dollars, ending with a budget in the black and the debt being reduced. From Jan 2001 to August 2008, it grew again at an annual rate of 500 billion dollars. I remember the “tax neutral” tax act of 1986 that saw my personal income taxes take the biggest increase in my lifetime. As a middle class wage earner, I saw my hard-earned taxes going to the super wealthy in one of the largest redistributions of wealth in our history. With Republicans in office, expect more of the same. The economy is a big political issue in this campaign. It was Ronald Reagan who called the one trillion dollar debt “asinine” and then marched on to significantly increase it. Yes, the Republicans are indeed the party of “borrow and spend.”

Posted by: Earl C | September 4, 2008 11:38 AM | Report abuse

MCCAIN/PALIN/JESUS '08!

Posted by: Gnarly Erik | September 4, 2008 11:37 AM | Report abuse

Recorded for posterity in the media record of Sarah Palin's historic acceptance speech is a FoxNews cameraman caught using his zoom lens to examine some woman's breasts.

@ minute 2:00 of part 4:
part 4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLdO7qSJn-8

Posted by: AspeGirl | September 4, 2008 11:36 AM | Report abuse

The speech was pretty good in my opinion. A lot of lines that are sure to fire up the Republican base. I feel that a lot of independents such as myself were looking for more substance from Gov. Palin. I fully expected her to take shots at the opposition and defend attacks that have been made against her, but I also was looking for her to give me an idea of where she stands on the critical issues of our time. In my opinion she did not do that.I am still undecided about who I am gonna cast my ballot for and her speech last night did not sway my opinion in either direction.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 11:36 AM | Report abuse

EAT YOUR HEART LIBERALS, THERE IS A NEW SHERIFF IN TOWN...... AND SHE'S A LADY.

Frau Braun, er, Palin, is anything BUT a lady.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 11:35 AM | Report abuse

Pathetic. She didn't write that speech. Boring and predictable. She doesn't have the Washington experience to be that aggressive. No way she can back any of this up when she has to think on her feet. Joe Biden is going to eat her for lunch.
Also, largely inaccurate, especially when she spoke about taxes.
We get it, Palin - "your just a small town girl living in a lonely world and you took the midnight train...". Yeah, yeah. Its easy to speak in front of the home team. Let's see you back up this rhetoric when it counts.
A bunch of fascists.

Posted by: PhilliePhan | September 4, 2008 11:35 AM | Report abuse

As a Canadian outsider 'listening in', this is what I find so troubling about American politics-as-blood-sport. You claim it's country above party, but then you villify your "opponents" as if they were agents of a foreign power! It is one thing to disagree with the policies of one's opponents in an election. By all means, have a tough but respectful debate over policies, compare track records, note discrepancies between words and deeds.But don't sneer at your opponents' motives while holding up your own up as pure and righteous! No one can prove their motives are good; there is no defense against that kind of attack if the people judging the contest do not condemn that form of attack out of hand.

Posted by: Cardigan | September 4, 2008 11:35 AM | Report abuse

"...the anti-Christ will be a man in his 40s, of muslim descent"...

Um, WOW, Revelation was written 600 years before Islam even BECAME a religion.

What bigoted nonsense.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 11:34 AM | Report abuse

EAT YOUR HEART LIBERALS, THERE IS A NEW SHERIFF IN TOWN......
AND SHE'S A LADY.

Posted by: sonnysideup34 | September 4, 2008 11:34 AM | Report abuse

She did great, if your idea of a good Vice Presidential acceptance speech is smarta$$ one-liners. Personally, I expect more from my leaders. She came across as bitter and mean.

Posted by: Robert | September 4, 2008 11:34 AM | Report abuse

"Hockey mom"? Hockey is what Canadians and furriners play.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 11:33 AM | Report abuse

It is unfortunate that Palin has to resort to mudslinging without first proving herself as a leader with vice presidential qualities.
It is even more unfortunate that she is not being held accountable for her past flip-flop on the Bridge to Nowhere, and the fact that she has no reason to help lower gas prices in the interest of her home state and her oil man husband.
I would like to see how she fares in one-on-one interviews-- if the campaign would stop insulating her.
The campaign so far has been successful in changing the key focus of the race from the economy and war to the fact that she is a woman by bullying the press. Every time the campaign cries "sexism" and "unfair," the press overcorrects, interviewing her fans and supporters about the fact that she's a woman and a mother.
How about raising the fact that at this point, she looks no more experienced than a congressional intern?
The nation needs a negotiator right now to ease unrest in other countries, not someone who is adept at starting fights on the playground.
And to the so-called former Hillary supporter: Why would you want to continue a Rove-crafted administration? Are you completely blind to the messes we've gotten into with the leadership put in place by him?
Gee, I can't wait to see the movie "Being Karl Rove" about an obsessive puppeteer getting into the mind of a president.

Posted by: Emily from Arizona | September 4, 2008 11:33 AM | Report abuse

Sarah was not nearly as impressive as John McCain was on Larry King Live the other night....oh, wait...

Posted by: Oh, Wait | September 4, 2008 11:33 AM | Report abuse

To be frank...I did not like Palin's speech. I don't get it, why does anyone like, her or that sarcastic, witchy, and angry speech she gave. If any of us women behaved like that we would be knocked down quickly. That behavior may be allowed in the back woods of Alaska, but it doesn't belong in the White House. Let's have a "wake up call here"...just how well is that behavior going to go in dealing with other countries. If we vote this "hateful woman" into office, we get what we deserve! I can't believe just how many stupid people that we have in our country, starting with McCain.

Posted by: kdom | September 4, 2008 11:33 AM | Report abuse

The speech was disrespectful and snide. There was absolutely no substance and much of it were flat out false accusations and lies. I have very little respect for this redneck from Nowhereville with a Journalism degree out of Idaho. Her husband is an uneducated fisherman, 17 year old daughter pregnant and under investigation for abuse of power. Wake up people she's a heart beat awaye from presidency. If we're not laughing stock of the world now we will be very soon.

Posted by: Ryan | September 4, 2008 11:32 AM | Report abuse

Diane 72 - Just curious? Is your white sheet at the cleaners after wearing it last night?

Posted by: Marla | September 4, 2008 11:32 AM | Report abuse

Fox News interviewed Karl Rove. He said candidates are 'brands' that are marketed. But I don't believe that is true of the Democrats this election cycle. I much prefer Obama and Biden. They are the real deal. And McCain, god bless him, has gotten too old.

Posted by: Felipe Mendez | September 4, 2008 11:31 AM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin calls herself a "pitbull with lipstick".

She was wearing lipstick?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 11:31 AM | Report abuse

Nice try, your line of thinking is the reason Obama will lose. Do you realize that most of America is Christian and you just insulted and put them into a negative category? Your entire response was insulting and you want to complain about Palin mocking Obama?

Posted by: ssphx | September 4, 2008 10:54 AM

Well, I can tell you that if this keeps up like this the Christians will be outnumbered fast and what are you going to say then ? Also NOT all christians think the way Palin does.

Posted by: HKY, Virginia | September 4, 2008 11:31 AM | Report abuse

Reading the comments, I'm aghast and stunned by the hypocrisy of the DailyKos bloggers and netroots Obama supporters who complain that Sarah Palin's speech took zingers at Obama.

Crying about her being critical about Obama's campaign rhetoric and professional history he claims prepares him for the presidency, is very hypocritical and whining after the lurid, gleeful and sociopathic trashing this woman has been put through by these same DailyKos bloggers and Obama-supporting, Republican-hating netroots!

Your candidate wouldn't be able to take one day of what was leveled at Sarah Palin this past week.

Double standards!

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 4, 2008 11:31 AM | Report abuse

American People - the truth is always bitter. What Sarah said is what most Americans feel but are afraid to say - Sarah is straight, forthright and amazingly refreshing on the political horizon. Let us not mince words - all said and done Obama has no credible leadership credentials - he gives sauve speeches and is willing to negotiate with murderers. Obama is words and John McCain is deeds - let us realize that!

No Way! No How! NOBAMA!

Posted by: McCarter J | September 4, 2008 11:30 AM | Report abuse

OBAMA:

Supporters of Obama: 1.5 billion Muslims, Oprah, Louis Farrakanh, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton and all American Muslims.

OBAMA’S GAME IS DECEPTION AND VIOLENCE
A VOTE FOR OBAMA IS A VOTE FOR OSAMA AND KILLER ISLAM!!

Posted by: Wow | September 4, 2008 11:30 AM | Report abuse

When Palin became mayor, her town had no debt. When she departed for higher office, the town was in debt, faced a lawsuit over her pet project, had fought her interest in book banning.
She supported the bridge to nowhere.
She aggressively sought earmarks and government funds, despite Alaska's having huge revenue surpluses.
She supported Ted Stevens while it was useful, then opposed him.
She has never faced economic downturn and fails to strategically plan for the long term when oil/gas revenues will face market downturns.
She cut funds for programs like assistance to special needs families, even while her state experienced revenue windfalls.
She chose to expose her family to scrutiny for her political gains and use her children as rallying points for the religious right.
She and her husband have chosen priorities-poltical career and high-profile life over hands-on, private support for 7 young people; not my idea of responsible parenting. She can be a working Vice President with 4 kids, a baby grandchld and 2 teenage parents, but is this the best thing to do?
She is not a political neophyte-she minored in political science in college.
TELL ME WHY SHE IS A REFORMER, A TYPICAL SMALL TOWN MOM. She's a fundamentalist, Republican, conservative, middle-competency politician with huge ambition who is meeting the needs of candidate who will sell his soul to get to the White House.

Posted by: belle | September 4, 2008 11:29 AM | Report abuse

American politics has become a joke. When will a Republican lay down exactly what they plan to do on issues, the way Obama did in Denver. How exactly are McCains tax plans going to effect someone making $50,000 a year? How is McCain going to help me pay for college? What is McCain going to do to make sure all American children have health care? Where are the issues? Palin's a working mom. That's great. How is that going to help me pay my bills, or make wages a little closer to the level of inflation? How is that going to add up to McCains refusal of equal pay for equal work? Why did Palin come down so hard on Hillary, but do the same 'whining' so early? Where is the concern for America in this campaign? More wars? Is that all they have?

Posted by: wow | September 4, 2008 11:29 AM | Report abuse

I feel sorry for Biden in the upcoming VP debates...he is outmatched and based on their respective speeches - a decided underdog. The notion of the GOP setting traps around inexperience is hogwash, the entire nation questioned who was Sarah Palin, only the DEMs took it over the top in a typical campaign rhetoric attack.

Let the best man, er, candidate win!

Posted by: SteveM | September 4, 2008 11:29 AM | Report abuse

I saw the speech as hate rather than hope, division rather than vision. and adding sneer and smirky smile to the Republican playbook of fear and smear. She offered nothing to me and only offers more of the same Republican war mongering and war on the middle class for the country.

Posted by: ejgallagher1 | September 4, 2008 11:28 AM | Report abuse

Is Obama the Anti-Christ?

According the book of Revelation, the anti-Christ will be a man in his 40s, of muslim descent, who will deceive the nations with his persuasive language, and have a massive appeal.
He says he's a christian, but in fact practiced Islamic religion growing up. His christian pastor later refused to vote for him!
Just something to ponder...

Posted by: Wow | September 4, 2008 11:28 AM | Report abuse

Great speech!! All the wrong positions but great speech. And TonyJ2 you aren't an Independent with that comment, you are a Democrat. Why do you find that so hard to admit.

But as a Democrat myself I would caution us to not take this election for granted. John McCain is impressive as a person and Sarah Palin will strike a cord with those who are homemakers and those women who have been told over and over again you can't do it all, taking care of your kids must be your first priority.

She seemingly will and can do it all. And the reality is that it will be easier as VP than she has it now. She won't put that plane up on E-bay and she will have that cook. And any other help she needs for her kids.

I belive that the Republican Party will take us down the wrong road and that we really can't afford that for 4 more years. But let us as Democrats not forget that 4 years ago we re-elected George Bush. How could that have happened? It happened because the American people don't all think like those in DC, SF, NY or even Il.

I belive that Palin's lines will find a willing ear when she talks about Obama saying one thing to working people and another to a group in SF. She will find a willing ear when she talks about drilling for oil and how we need to recognize all families. She will find a willing ear for all those people with children who are disabled and for those whose still believe that service in the military is one of the highest callings in the land.

We need to challenge her and John McCain's views on how we deal with the world and the economy. How we really move our nation forward and how we can do it together. How we appoint Supreme Court judges who will reconize a woman's right to choice and everyone's right to civil and human rights.

We need to make our case on the issues. It won't be easy but I think that with hard work Barack Obama can be elected President.

Posted by: peter | September 4, 2008 11:27 AM | Report abuse

It was a very good speech delivered under pressure and I want to like her. Still, I need to hear a legitimate answer as to why her husband was a member of the AIP and why she addressed them at their convention. That party was formed to promote Alaska's independence and address their possible secession from the USA. It seems to me the VP should be reserved for somebody that places USA first, not second just after Alaska. And when she answers that maybe she might explain what kind of mother takes a long commercial flight after her water breaks. That just seems very irresponsible. And then maybe she can explain about the lobbyists she hired to help gain earmarks for Wasilla and then Alaska.

But I understand McCain's position that these questions are unfair and sexist. I should just drink the Wonderful Hockey Mom Kool-Aid and shut up.

Posted by: Waiting | September 4, 2008 11:27 AM | Report abuse

Palin came over as an empty windbag with no substance at all. Although the bulk of Republican elected officials seem to be professional liars, I was still amazed that she would again spew the same blatant lies she has been called out on publicly in the past few days, such as the claim that she opposed the so-called "bridge to nowhere." That she's a hit with the ignorant Republican base is not surprising (after all, many of them continue to believe that Iraq had something to do with 9-11 and that WMD have been found in Iraq), but it will be interesting to see whether the public at large is stupid enough to be taken in by this shallow charlatan.

Posted by: Charles | September 4, 2008 11:27 AM | Report abuse


Picture it, Trinity Church 2006. Michelle Shiniqua Obama is speaking from the pulpit in her native ghetto tounge. Her prominent nostrils are flared, brow furrowed, and a scowl across her face. She is ranting against "whitey" and how they keep "raising the bar". All the while punching the air with a fist-bump. This my friends is what we will see in October when they release her "whitey-gate" tapes on YouTube.

Posted by: Dianne72 | September 4, 2008 11:27 AM | Report abuse

What's the difference between Dan Quayle and Sarah Palin? Lipstick.

Posted by: Jorge Rey | September 4, 2008 11:27 AM | Report abuse

Hey Fox River, what about all the times Clinton, Kerry, and Biden told us about Saddam's WMD's?

And what about all that yellowcake uranium we've found in Iraq? Oh, don't expect to read about it on the front page of the WaPo, of course.

Open your brain and use it.

Posted by: Rufus | September 4, 2008 11:26 AM | Report abuse

Following the thread on these comments, it's no surprise that so many people are turned off by politics. First, you have the "family values, my religion comes first" crowd that lobs hate-filled attacks and accusations that don't fit any definition of what it means to be Christian or grace-filled. Then you have the revenge-seeking crowd that goes into violent seizures at the mere mention of anything Republican.

Step back from the name-calling and self-righteous finger-wagging, and the question we should all ask: Does Gov. Palin have the experience, seasoning and judgment to be the leader of the most powerful country in the world at a time when our economy is reeling and our young men and women are fighting two wars?

Posted by: rukidding | September 4, 2008 11:26 AM | Report abuse

Do only Obama followers comment.

It's interesting to see the 'new' politics of the true believers in action.

Be afraid, very afraid.

Posted by: alex webster | September 4, 2008 11:26 AM | Report abuse

Yes Obama's resume is a little thin as well, but the "hate in the heart" factor is something this country needs to watch and it seems both on the Republican ticket are not mindful of the hate and spite that fuels them.

Posted by: Concerned 123 | September 4, 2008 11:22 AM

The Republicans have nothing approaching a monopoly on mindless hate. Just read this board. The main problems with both parties is not the people at the top, but the people at the bottom - the fanatical drones like most of those on this board, left and right.

Posted by: Get Real | September 4, 2008 11:26 AM | Report abuse

Ugly. The whole night was ugly yet these people portray themselves as Christians.

Posted by: nclwtk | September 4, 2008 11:25 AM | Report abuse

Hillary was SO EXPERIENCED when she took the NY Senate Seat. As I recall, she wasn't even from NY. But it's okay, she was a democrat and a former first lady.

Now lets tear down Palin, jeez, she isn't even married to a former president. What a joke. A Governor, what kind of experience is that? A reformer, nah, we dont need that in Washington. Not a lawyer with an Ivy League diploma, what steerage. Mooseburgers not caviar, how un-civilized.

If it weren't so pathetic how hypocritical the Dems are, it would be funny.

Posted by: NCvotingGOP | September 4, 2008 11:25 AM | Report abuse

I didn't always like the text of her speech, but Palin did show herself to be a competent government executive and likable person, which is something an indepedent voter like me appreciates.

All things said, if I had to rank order the four candidates based on qualifiations (not politics), I would vote in this order for President.

1. McCain (much experience, bridges political gaps to get things done)
2. Biden (much experience, OK legislator)
3. Palin (modest experience, very capable executive)
4. Obama (modest experience, great speaker, the thing he's changed the most in 7 years of politics is his mind)

In 20 years I've voted half Democrat and half Republican - never for George Bush. McCain looks like the "real deal" while Obama is more "sizzle than steak."

Posted by: thinkingoutloud2 | September 4, 2008 11:25 AM | Report abuse

McCain made his first big mistake in bringing Palin on the ticket. He mistook her party loyalty for patriotism, and chose style over substance. This will become apparent over time, no matter how many "handlers" she has. People eventually saw through George W., but by then it was far too late.
This nomination and the speeches given so far mean this will be a down and dirty campaign all the way: slogans, insults, nicknames, generalizations, misnomers, half-truths, and straight out lies. I expect all of this and more, and I can't support a candidate or party who's motto is "whatever it takes to win."

Posted by: kjb | September 4, 2008 11:25 AM | Report abuse

Republicans have a new hood ornament, their trophy gal, a right wing Annie Oakley who has no evolve for her revolver. Republicans believe they have a Right to overthrow Iraqis after Saudi Arabia attacked us to privatize it and make hundreds of billions in oil contracts and these racists, Palin and Mr. Magoo who's 72 don't give a flying dead Fallujah baby who they chemically bomb because to these braindead cretins, they are killing these people for their improvement and Republicans will stop murdering them when they damned well feel like it. Republicans are parasites, not patriots and they will overthrow roe v. wade and destroy the American Department of Education because they detest the union. This nation cannot stand one more day much less four years of ten billion a month Oil Pirates chemically bombing a defenseless oil reserve for Ray Hunt and Dick Cheney. Palin the satan slayer hangs rednecks from ropes machine gunning federally protected wolves from choppers for Jesus until the courts took her ammo and grounded her mutants.

Posted by: bob II | September 4, 2008 11:25 AM | Report abuse

"It's amazing how some so called 'christians' on this board support Obama, with his support for gay marriage, abortion, and liberal views."

Actually those were not political topic at Jesus' time.

"Have you read your bible lately? Do you research before you conjure your own distorted views."

Yes I do read it:
- "Thou shalt not lie": G Busch and his republican pals have repeatedly lied to the country about WMD, about the economical situation, etc.
- "thou shalt not kill": is valid for innocent lives in the USA, but also in Irak (how many Irakian children killed by gunfire, bombing, etc? is it just because they are not US citizens that Republicans do not count them ?
- honor thy father and mother": what is the attack against Social Security but a slap in the face of our elder people?

And I could go on this way. So please straight yourself your biased lecture of the Bible and go down to one fundamental fact: When Jesus faced the adultery woman - a crime akin to abortion today - he did not condemn her, he SAVED her: where are the words of help in the hate of Republican speeches?

Posted by: Fox River | September 4, 2008 11:25 AM | Report abuse

Being a hockey mom does not qualify you to be vice president. That's like saying being a soccer dad means you can be a neurologist. Enough with the hockey mom talk. We are in the middle of a serious recession and two wars. Sarah Palin is all fluff.

Posted by: Jose | September 4, 2008 11:24 AM | Report abuse

Let's see.....today's republican party:

- believes thier religion is the only true religion
- has leaders who get thier orders from God rather than the citizens (as GW proudly stated)
- sees fit to tell US citizens how to run thier personal lives, e.g., have abortion or not, have extra marital sex or not, etc.

Remind you of another country? Iran come to mind? Goodbye Ayatollah Bush. Hello Ayatollah McCain.

Posted by: Hooman22 | September 4, 2008 11:24 AM | Report abuse

POSTED BY R.J.: "It was a good, inspirational, we are good people who send our kids off to victory in Iraq speech.

Unfortunately, I want my kids to go to college, and be able to actually work in the country where they are born, and get paid reasonably well for it, in whatever profession they choose."

You are precisely the reason I support a military draft--awful as that would be.

Perhaps those of you who don't want your children to die in war would actually vote for pol's who would more carefully/judiciously send young Americans
into harm's way if it was the blood of your own child who might be spilled. As a country we have now institutionalized in the "voluntary" military all the class distinctions and cruelties of the Vietnam era.

There are, of course, those who think this point of view should require a vote for Biden/Obama. But I have no confidence they--with Obama's inexperience and Biden's 30 years of acquiescense--would
go to war more thoughtfully and fairly.

To my mind, a vote for Obama/Biden is a vote for letting someone else's kid die in this or the next unpleasant little war. And we know one will come.

Blue-collar kids have parents who also want them (often through their military service) to get a college education and a secure future.

Do you really think your hopes for your children are so different from the hopes of the parents of those young people in uniform? What planet are you on?


Posted by: Mark Tillman | September 4, 2008 11:24 AM | Report abuse

Palin rocks; Dems are worried stiff; Biden will be condescending and she will destroy him in a debate.

I love it when Democrats are shaking.

Posted by: TrojanHuy | September 4, 2008 11:24 AM | Report abuse

The Republicans have a HUGE policy hole that they need to fill. Palin continues this trend last night offering nothing to bolster my confidence.

What do you plan to do with my country? I've heard for months and months that McCain is ready to lead, but what is his plan to fix the economy? Huge tax breaks to people who make over $600k a year? Miniscule (as in LESS than Obama) tax breaks to the majority of America who make less, and struggle daily because of it? Tax holiday gimmicks?

Oh, and we will pay for it all by cutting spending... the last time I checked, no president in the history of this country has cut spending to the point where they were spending less than those who passed the torch - what makes John McCain think he will be different? How does he plan to pay for the Iraq war we purchased on credit (NO war bonds were sold to pay for it, unlike every other war in this country's history)? As of today, these issues, and many others have taken a backseat to "character, patriotism, and POW." These are all fine attributes to have, but it doesn't show me a plan for fixing what is broken. It just shows me that the Republican party is willing to make this a character contest (a beauty pageant if you will) and lacks whole substance and defines this country's current leadership.

Service, POW, patriot. Yes yes, I heard you 10 years ago on that. And I heard you 8 months ago. And last night. Is it so hard to get up on stage and tell me precisely what you plan to do?

Posted by: Tell me something other than POW | September 4, 2008 11:23 AM | Report abuse

I listened to Sarah Palin's speech on the BBC World Service.

Be careful America, be very careful, remember; "Whom the Gods wish to destroy, they first grant them their wish"!

I don't what she'll do for the USA, but she spooks the daylight sout of me and I'm over 3000 miles away!

Posted by: Paddy Browne | September 4, 2008 11:23 AM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin would make a much better President than Obama. When will the press wake up and expose the real Obama? He is: a former cocaine and pot addict, nearly a high school drop out, friends with American terrorist group (Ayers), corrupt politician from Chicago (nice home deal!), no leadership or executive experience, friends with anti-American Rev. Wright, and Washington insider who would rather go to cocktail parties than pass laws to help Americans. Are these really the characteristics we want in a President? No way.

There is no choice on the Democratic side, McCain-Palin is the only choice this election. Amazing the democrats put up such an awful candidate in Obama - the press just needs to report the truth about him instead of making up stories about Palin. Why are they so afraid to report the truth about Obama? I use to be a democratic but not this election.

Posted by: Steve Johnson | September 4, 2008 11:22 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Frank | September 4, 2008 11:17 AM

Thank you Frank for your candor, and your focus on the needs of the country -

Yes Obama's resume is a little thin as well, but the "hate in the heart" factor is something this country needs to watch and it seems both on the Republican ticket are not mindful of the hate and spite that fuels them.

Posted by: Concerned 123 | September 4, 2008 11:22 AM | Report abuse

"No one questions whether community organizers are important... that wasn't the message."

Get real.

Here's the irony: we have a new "The One." A new celebrity. The Queen of the Meth and pot-growing capital of Alaska, the Shrilla from Wasilla (no wonder she enacted a sales tax, skim off some of that weed money for a hockey rink.)

And you talk about Democrats fomenting class war? All I heard last night was us-vs-them.

Now that she's made her butt-saving speech, the campaign is going to keep Chick Cheney as far away from the press as possible. Why? Because as pit-bull-charismatic as she may be, she is in way over her head.

Posted by: Kathleen Hussein in Maine | September 4, 2008 11:22 AM | Report abuse

Palin is brilliant,methodical,with lots of depth on issues and an achiever.US needs people like her.She stands for limited governement,less taxes and progress.

Posted by: Plain Views | September 4, 2008 11:22 AM | Report abuse

From the number and tone of most of these comments, I can tell that Palin hit a grand slam home run last night and democrats are a little worried.

Posted by: Jah | September 4, 2008 11:21 AM | Report abuse

"Being a mayor is like being a community organizer except with actual responsibilites"

Ouch

McCain/Palin '08

Posted by: jdub | September 4, 2008 11:21 AM | Report abuse

Don't get it. I thought Palin was absolutely awful last night and I was stunned by the mindless applause of the CNN pundits, me thinks they're rooting for the story more than properly covering the speech.

If you weren't going to vote for McCain going into last night, you saw nothing to change your mind. No policy, no vision, just an relatively unknown person with no profile to back-up her nasty comments. Instead of introducing herself to the nation and giving them a sense of who she was and what her qualifications are, her main drag as a VP candidate, she did what Rudy G. did just before her, take shotes at Obama.

In a few weeks time I think Palin's speech will be viewed as a missed opportunity for the public to have gotten to know her and have their fears about her experience quelled.

Posted by: Wade Tomlin | September 4, 2008 11:21 AM | Report abuse

THIS LADY IS SOOOOO BORING.... People say Obama has lack of experince, i mean come on she's from Alaska? She comes from a small town and probably has never traveled out the country or even to the contential united states. Who would take her serious internationally? She looks like a stay at home mom and the wife of a preacher. Not to mention her daughter being a $%^, I take her for a joke i mean she comes a town of only 9,000 people. I mean what issues have she ever confronted where to put the next stop sign? lol

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 11:21 AM | Report abuse

I thought it was a speech that played well in the Hall, and because it was largely gaffe-free, exceeded expectations to people watching at home. However, it was clearly a speech written for someone else - I am not sure how saying the "Presidency should not be a journey of personal discovery" goes over or could be said by her with a straight face. Substantively, the only specific proposal I heard was that we should drill in Alaska..."Drill, Baby, Drill" is a bit tone-deaf. Stylistically, I cringed at the family stuff (sorry, but it is strange, and it strikes a lot of people as strange how willing she is to use her family as props - sue me for saying what people are saying all over America right now. The fact that conservatives think her daughter should be thrust out there more just shows incredible tone-deafness). The attack-dog stuff? Again, if it was someone people already viewed as credible, it might have worked, but there is cognitive dissonance there...who is this person and what gave her a such a sense of achievement to be so smarmy and sarcastic to "her opponent." Please. The Obama/Biden campaign should just ignore her - this whole selection comes off as a Terri Schiavo moment, and it is not playing with swing/independent voters...Republicans apparently had much worse base problems than we realized, so I guess she accomplished firing up the people who still think W. is a great president....

Posted by: Bryce | September 4, 2008 11:20 AM | Report abuse

She'd be great with the Harlem Globetrotters, or as a guest on "A Prairie Home Companion." But she's waaay out of her league as VP. Sorry Johnny, you messed up and energized the wrong base. I guess Obama's right, you really don't get it.

Posted by: Betty | September 4, 2008 11:20 AM | Report abuse

Don't get it. I thought Palin was absolutely awful last night and I was stunned by the mindless applause of the CNN pundits, me thinks they're rooting for the story more than properly covering the speech.

If you weren't going to vote for McCain going into last night, you saw nothing to change your mind. No policy, no vision, just an relatively unknown person with no profile to back-up her nasty comments. Instead of introducing herself to the nation and giving them a sense of who she was and what her qualifications are, her main drag as a VP candidate, she did what Rudy G. did just before her, take shotes at Obama.

In a few weeks time I think Palin's speech will be viewed as a missed opportunity for the public to have gotten to know her and have their fears about her experience quelled.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 11:20 AM | Report abuse

Wow! A Dick Cheney in high heels, complete with the sneer, mean spirit and "do not confuse me with facts - I know better" attitude.

These guys not only believe that humans and dinosaurs lived together 10,000 years ago - they seem to have inherited the intelligence of the poor beasts. So what would we have to look forward to if Ms. Palin gets to run the country (for that is the litmus test for picking a VEEP):

1. Burn all books that teach evolution and replace with books that teach creationism.
2. Drill the heck out of Alaska and other places - no point in practicing conservation or investing in fuel saving technologies.
3. Nuke all countries that we suspect of harboring terrorists or owning WMD ( just like Iraq).
4. First amendment rights - out of the window.
5. Blame immigrants for all our crime problems.
6. No reproductive rights for women.
7. All can carry concealed weapons.

Posted by: The Spaghetti Monster | September 4, 2008 11:20 AM | Report abuse

It's amazing how some so called 'christians' on this board support Obama, with his support for gay marriage, abortion, and liberal views.
Have you read your bible lately? Do you research before you conjure your own distorted views.
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Its amazing how some so called 'Christians' disregard the Gospels for the Old Testament.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 11:19 AM | Report abuse

How can the GOP portray itself as the Washington outsiders when they have dominated Washington politics for a decade? It is all red paint that was used to paint the nation into this corner.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 11:19 AM | Report abuse

Palin read the nasty, mean-spirited words written for her. That's about all I can say. But the Republicans just handed a great commercial to Obama in her swipe at "Community Organizers": a montage of community organizers from the local Neighborhood Watch block parties to soup kitchens to clothing drive organizers to Martin Luther King Jr. to Ghandi. The Repubs. have always underestimated those that build grassroots campaigns outside the mainstream, and I think those organizations are going to turn and bite them in the ass. Serves them right.

Posted by: mazarin | September 4, 2008 11:18 AM | Report abuse

My impressions:

Before Speech - Stereotypical Republican woman (cheer leader, beauty pageant contestant, Hocky Mom) with a little government experience

After Speech: Stereotypical Republican woman with a little government experience and a foul mouth.

Posted by: Mani | September 4, 2008 11:18 AM | Report abuse

The speech was nasty, vitriolic, lacking in any substance on policy, ignorant on major issues, especially of foreign policy, and flat-out misleading. In short, my expectations were met 100%.

I wouldn't vote for this person for head of garbage collection in my town.

No way, no how, no McCain. And DEFINITELY no Palin.

Obama/Biden '08!

Posted by: ASinMoCo | September 4, 2008 11:18 AM | Report abuse

VOTERS TO VETO VILE VAMPY VEEP

Sarah Barracuda's angry, divisive screed will help the GOP as much as Spiro Agnew's "nattering nabobs of negatism" tirade advanced the Nixon legacy.

McCain was about to take the lead on Obama. Now Obama's out ahead, and the polls will reveal that a majority of the American electorate doesn't want a vile vampy veep.

The best thing to happen to McCain would be a withdrawal by Palin for the sake of her family, which is being embarrassed anew by the latest National Enquirer revelation. And the hits just keep on comin'.

McCain thinks that speech validified her selection? It's all going to boomerang on him bigtime. But the hard right's gotten into his cranium so deep that he can no longer perceive the damage to his brand.

For years, McCain has gotten a pass from his mainstream media admirers. And now the strategy is to attack the "media elite"? Who's behind this hari-kari?

Get ready for President Obama... unless McCain recovers from his aide-induced stupor.

BUT WILL THE ELECTION EVEN MATTER? Not when government-supported "vigilante injustice" squads are "gang stalking" American citizens, making a mockery of the rule of law:
http://www.nowpublic.com/world/get-political-vic-livingston-opinion-expose-state-supported-vigilante-squads-doing-domestic-terrorism

WHAT IF THEY COULD SHOOT YOU
WITHOUT LEAVING A TRACE? THEY CAN.
http://www.nowpublic.com/world/zap-have-you-been-targeted-directed-energy-weapon-victims-organized-gang-stalking-say-its-happening-usa-1


Posted by: scrivener | September 4, 2008 11:18 AM | Report abuse

"She transformed the state!" You have to be kidding -- ever been to Alaska? Do you know anything about the 8A firms operating in DC as contractors under Senator Stevens' guidance. Do you realize that oil drilled now won't get to your pump for nearly 10 years? Do you realize how much a state's legislature does versus the Governor of "any" state. "She" didn't transform anything - though I will give her, her due - she has shaken things up. But that isn't reason enough to elect someone - just like being a POW isn't. There are no medals for getting shot down and getting caught. There are medals for succeeding - those are the harsh, brutal facts. The Senator served well and continues to serve well but being a POW isn't a reason to elect him either.

Posted by: Concerned 123 | September 4, 2008 11:18 AM | Report abuse

A GREAT SPEECH. BUT HOW CAN SO MANY HATE SO MUCH,FOR NO MATTER HOW GREAT THE SPEECH WAS,THERE ARE THOSE WHO WON'T CONCEDE THAT IT WAS AND I JUST CAN'T BELIEVE THAT ALL THIS HATE IS GOOD FOR OUR COUNTRY

Posted by: arthur | September 4, 2008 11:17 AM | Report abuse

Well, given that the AP had to issue a story immediately setting the record straight on all her lies, she fits right in with today's Republican Party.

Posted by: smartvoter | September 4, 2008 11:17 AM | Report abuse

African Americans should be concerned about the lack of black representation at the Republican Party Convention.

The almost universal support African Americans give to the Democrat party is diificult to understand. By doing this blacks limit their options by refusing to seriously consider the Republican party's approach to governing.

As long as they do that they will not get the support of those they call mean, racist and selfish. Most Republicans have gotten to the point of saying why bother?

And Obama is far from being post racial. He uses the race card every chance he gets if he thinks it advances his campaign.

True independent thinkers in the black community are people like Collin Powell, Condi Rice, Clarence Thomas, Thomas Sowell, Walter Williams, Juan Williams, Bill Cosby and Michael Steele, among others. I know some are Republicans, some are Democrats and some are indepdennts. What they all have in common is that they look past race and see opportunity. Their records and accomplishments speak for themselves. They are successful because of who they are, the values they hold, their intellect and drive to excel, not because of or in spite of the color of their skin.

Posted by: Dave L. | September 4, 2008 11:17 AM | Report abuse

I am a registered Republican and while I usually vote along party lines, I realize politics is far more nuanced than that. I was one of the many that voted for Kerry in the last election.

I've been a long time McCain fan. His service record means nothing to me and I think our Presidential elections need to stop being so militaristic. We've have very successful Presidents in the past, on both sides that hadn't served a day in uniform. I fully realize that the policies and administration of the past 8 years has been akin to disaster, but McCains generalized middle of the road policiies on most things have attracted me over the years and I was fully prepared to vote for him the past few months. I figured he would pick a standard, known, QUALIFIED individual as his running mate and that would be that.

I can say pretty certainly now, that I am Republican from VA will not be voting for McCain. I am both awestruck and ashamed that he would pick such a neophyte as his running mate. In a normal world, her qualifications and record wouldn't come close to passing muster for CEO of a fortune 500, and here we are nominating her for the 2nd highest job in the land?

Obama's newness scares me too, but I just think that the overall Democratic ticket is much stronger.

Posted by: Frank | September 4, 2008 11:17 AM | Report abuse

Dr. Logic,
I couldn't have agreed more.

Sphyx, do your homework

Posted by: Wow | September 4, 2008 11:17 AM | Report abuse

I have been in this country for 7 years and when I arrived I was struck at how poor and uneducated most blacks are. I could never figure out why most had children out of wedlock, sold drugs, and were in jail. I suppose it is the slave metality from generations ago but at some point they will have to take responsibility. I think that is the reason Senator Obama appeals to so many whites because he isn't 100% black. He has a black face but the mentality of a white person. That makes the vote palatable and they can feel good about themselves. I doubt many of these white voters would go for an Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson - just too black and they are for more representative of the black American - not Barack Obama.

Posted by: Rahiq Syed | September 4, 2008 11:16 AM | Report abuse

Sorry - I am just still so horrified by the notion that it is elitist not to want ones' children to be parents and veterans at the age of 19. Oh, boy, the future looks dark. Thank you in advance, coal mining towns.

Sarcasm seemed apt. Whem you don't have any substance, be snide!

Posted by: RJ | September 4, 2008 11:16 AM | Report abuse

The vast majority of critical comments on this thread are so naive and/or beside the point -- she criticized the other ticket! she proposed so few policies! the speech was (gasp) written! -- that I can only assume the commenters are anxious about something.

If I were a supporter of Obama/Biden, of course, I might be getting a bit anxious right now, too.

Posted by: solidstate | September 4, 2008 11:15 AM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin represents those in America that have contempt not only for those that disagree with them but for every other nation on this planet. If this bitter old man and this selfish, thoughtless woman are elected they will hammer down the nails in the coffin that contains what remains of this country's international stature. The rest of the world will be appalled and dismayed as America continues down the path, or into the ditch, that George Bush has set for this country. The idiots and zenophobes that would cheer their inaugeration will actually be pleased that our allies have lost all respect for us. They think God has chosen this country and God will protect us no matter what we do. Maybe God protects old dogs and children but he won't protect a nation dedicated to selfishness, stupidity, and short sightedness.

Posted by: Lost in Texas | September 4, 2008 11:15 AM | Report abuse

She was very impressive and effective, but in exactly the same way as the current administration- there was almost nothing there but arrogance and ridicule. I didn't get any sense at all of what to expect from a McCain-Palin government that would be any different from the current one. And since she is running as an outsider and a reformer, that's a pretty glaring omission.

The one promise she made was that she will steadfastly insult democrats as weaklings and cowards. Both the Harry Reid smear and the bizarre and repeated demeaning of community organizers were pure vitriol without any substance.

Frankly, she most reminded me of the anger wing of the party- people like Dick Cheney and Karl Rove, Rush Limbaugh and Laura Ingram, people who smile with pleasure as they exploit division. On first impression, this is a fierce partisan warrior who values victory over honesty, party over the public good.

Posted by: Bullsmith | September 4, 2008 11:14 AM | Report abuse

I watched the Republican convention last night hoping I’d hear the Republican’s vision for the future of the country after the destructive presidency of George Bush. Unfortunately, all I heard from Guliani and Palin was insults and name-calling. Then it hit me. I've been here before... I voted for Nixon in '68 and '72, Ford (bless his football-playing heart) in '76, Reagan in '80 and '84, Bush Sr in '88 and ‘92, Dole in ’96, and Bush jr. in 2000 and 2004 (mea culpa). I finally realized that the Republican party has been singing the same song for 40 years. The problem is that it doesn't work any more. In my humble opinion, Nixon was the best of the bunch. While his paranoia got him in the end, he ended the Vietnam war, negotiated crucial nuclear treaties with the USSR, and opened a relationship with China. But the party of Lincoln has been inherited by lesser men with lesser ideals. It has been destroyed from within by single issue politicians, "cut taxes and spend" "trickle down" fiscal policies, and intrusive social policies that try to dictate everything from how I worship God to who people are allowed to love. Under Republican rule, since Reagan took office, record trade deficits and record budget deficits are the norm. We have a debt obligation of $10 Trillion. How will our children pay for that? This is the Republican party? Their message tonight is not about issues or solutions, it's about attacking the "liberal media" and "celebrity". It appears that they have to attack Obama and the Democrats because they know that the same old tired slogans are wearing thin. They have nothing to offer but fear, hatred, and intolerance. The Republican party is bankrupt. Lincoln would be ashamed. For the first time in my life I'm voting democratic in a presidential election. I've finally had enough.

Posted by: Chris in Texas | September 4, 2008 11:14 AM | Report abuse

thank you Dr. Logic....you are correct.

Posted by: Jeremy Lee | September 4, 2008 11:14 AM | Report abuse

What's the difference between Dan Quayle and Sarah Palin? Lipstick.

Posted by: Jorge Rey | September 4, 2008 11:13 AM | Report abuse

How can you make it an argument that Palin has more executive experience than Obama? She also has more executive experience than McCain. But that doesn't count?

It's obvious that she's not qualified. I'm not saying she doesn't have potential for the future, or she'll never be qualified for the presidency when she matures, but not right now...

Posted by: Peter Verpoorten | September 4, 2008 11:12 AM | Report abuse

Do your homework first and you will see Palin has more governing experience than Obama has
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in what capacity? obama was in the illinois legislature for 8 years, representing chicago, a city with almost 3 million people. and he's been in the u.s. senate for 4 years. she was the mayor of mayberry, u.s.a., a town of 5700 people when she was mayor. and you have the audacity to make that equal? stunning. as she herself said, it's a town with 53 employees and a $6,000,000 budget, it's not rocket science.
i cannot believe the meanness displayed by the republicans thus far. it's what is done when you have no message.

Posted by: janetm | September 4, 2008 11:07 AM

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Sitting in the senate is not executive experience, nice try. A mayor of a small town has far more experience than sitting in the senate and voting "present" 130 times.

Posted by: ssphx | September 4, 2008 11:12 AM | Report abuse

Nasty, caustic and saucy! You can see that she is foul-mouthed and her aging parents were also cheering her on for it. Now I am a Christian and I live in a small town America with a population of about 10,000 people and I took offense at her dirty and sarcastic attitude. She looked so shameless having a protruding 17 year-old daughter with a bewildered boyfriend uncertain of what the future portended for him and his pregnant girlfriend at a center stage.

It is amazing that some fickle-minded people in the media were (and still are) awed by a distasteful person like "Pain-in-the-behind" Palin. In short they celebrated her foolhardiness. Some with no sense of history even compared her speech to Obama’s come-out speech at the Democratic Convention in 2004. Unlike Palin’s speech which was negative, sad and hopeless for this great country called the United States, that speech was hopeful, transformational and thought provoking. If I recall, Obama did not attack anyone personally in that speech. It is no wonder why many have lost faith in the media because they react on emotions rather than on substance. I mean the big name crew on CNN: Wolf Blitzer, Anderson Cooper and Campbell Brown were so giddy you will think they will jump out of the roof. Palin was nothing more than Karl Rove in skirt and blouse. Personal attacks and no substance!

Obama campaign had been deferential to her throughout the week and she came out on the side of nastiness. The speech was full of the same old mudslinging that has characterized the 8 years of Bush-Cheney regime which she did not for once cite in her speech. Her speech only revealed why her rebellious teenage daughter became pregnant. Her sauciness and caustic demeanor can trigger such a rebellion, even in her own children. America wake up and see through this ruse!

Posted by: midas20874 | September 4, 2008 11:12 AM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin read a prepared divisive speech. It was all attack and offered no solutions. It was demeaning to people who organize and volunteer in their communities. McCain and Palin are the same Bush policies. People are hurting like they haven't in years. The GOP just does not get it. It is the economy, stupid!

Posted by: Amy in Iowa | September 4, 2008 11:11 AM | Report abuse

Hillary voter here, now voting for Palin.
Biden's son's lobbying is worth more attention.

Posted by: Linda | September 4, 2008 11:11 AM | Report abuse


Mr. ssphx:
I believe you suffered a little lapse of logic here? The original writer was referring to a small subset of Christians who are fundamentalist and reactionary, not the majority of Christians who follow the teachings of a peaceful and loving Jesus Christ. No insult to this majority, as they are on the true path to salvation while the others will burn in Hell forever. Nice try ssphx to distort the writer's words so you can be divisive. But we are on to you....

"...Christians who love war and the death penalty, yet hate people who look, think, or sound different.

It is scary that some people are actually going to vote for these Republican neandrathals. Why don' think talk about things that matter instead of mocking. Oh thats because they are losers.....which is what they will be in this election."

Posted by: Jeremy Lee | September 4, 2008 10:49 AM
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Oh yes, and you forgot one thing, "we cling to religion and guns"

Nice try, your line of thinking is the reason Obama will lose. Do you realize that most of America is Christian and you just insulted and put them into a negative category? Your entire response was insulting and you want to complain about Palin mocking Obama?

Posted by: ssphx | September 4, 2008 10:54 AM

Posted by: Dr. Logic | September 4, 2008 11:11 AM | Report abuse

OBAMA HAS SO MUCH LESS TO OFFER THAN SARAH PALIN

Obama is a freshman senator in the U.S. senate and has been mainly engaged in running for president since his first year. What is his professional history?

Obama got a "community organizer" job after 2 years of unemployment after graduating from Columbia with a bachelor's degree. And as his book admits, he didn't get anywhere as a "community organizer" and that's why he went back to law school.

And as we all know, after graduating from law school, Obama failed to make partner at his law firm, set no precedents in cases he might have handled, didn't get published in any law review and didn't produce any scholarly or professional works of any nature contributing to the field of law.

Obama's probably the only politician in the U.S. to not accomplish a single thing with an ivy league law degree before going into politics.

In going into politics as a Illinois state senator, Obama never even really won a contested election, but got his state senate seat by using tricks and legal moves to get opponents disqualified, and he had opponents conveniently implode for him.

Obama's years as a state senator in Illinois is so empty of any leadership that he voted "present" 130 times to avoid taking stands on "controversial legislation" (as if there were 130 career-killing controversial laws he had to take a pass on at the state level, come on!) and yet no one noticed his failure to take a lead.

As an Illinois state senator, Obama climbed the greased pole of corrupt, dirty Chicago politics leveraging racist politics of Trinity Church, insider ex-radical terrorists like William Ayers' networks and trading favors with corruption figures like his convicted slumlord friend Tony Rezko.

Obama has contributed nothing to his profession and his only achievements are those that involve his ability to advance his own status and promote himself.

Obama has never published journal article in any law review, collaborated on any professional project, engaged in no landmark signature legislation, or made any tangible, substantial contribution of any nature to his profession as a lawyer or politician at any time since graduating with an ivy league law degree.

The only tangible works Barack Obama produced in his life are 2 fictionalized books about himself, glorifying his search for identity and his alcoholic, polygamous, already-married Kenyan father who was a failed Muslim communist (huh?) who knocked up his then-17-year-old mother and then abandoned them.

Lately, Obama has been trying to claim his "experience" "running" a campaign stacks up against Sarah Palin's experience as elected Governor of Alaska! Running for president is the experience needed to be president! That's almost as self-referential as "we are the ones we've been waiting for"!

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 4, 2008 11:09 AM | Report abuse

She delivered the speech quite well, but it was one of the most divisive speech of this campaign, full of hate and lies.

What about unwed pregnant girls who don't have healthcare insurance (for them and their babies) and not enough money as the Palins have... And you can't blame a 16 years old for not earning enough money!

So, I see more negatives than positives. A lot of hypocrisy and bashing Obama when Palin won't ever get interviewed during this campaign is quite silly...

Posted by: stearm | September 4, 2008 11:09 AM | Report abuse

HOLLY-
We all know Obama is an ivy league guy, but he has ZERO experience in a mayorship or governship! He may have served in a state legislature, but he didn't make the key decisions like Palin did. She transformed the state!
Wake up and stop being so damn ignorant. I'm an independent, but after last's night speech, I'm voting GOP.

Posted by: Wow | September 4, 2008 11:09 AM | Report abuse

Her speech was perfect. Her delivery of the words just as perfect. She is poised, self-confident and strong. Palin is what the McCain ticket needed.

Her speech had substance. I realize she has more experience in energy than any other candidate. That is important to me.

Yes, Palin does strengthen McCain's chances of winning the election. I am no longer on the fence - Palin won me over.

Posted by: Rainy | September 4, 2008 11:09 AM | Report abuse

Fact check on Palin's claims from the Anchorage Daily News:

http://www.adn.com/sarah-palin/story/515517.html

Posted by: bam | September 4, 2008 11:09 AM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin represents those in America that have contempt not only for those that disagree with them but for every other nation on this planet. If this bitter old man and this selfish, thoughtless woman are elected they will hammer down the nails in the coffin that contains what remains of this country's international stature. The rest of the world will be appalled and dismayed as America continues down the path, or into the ditch, that George Bush has set for this country. The idiots and zenophobes that would cheer their inaugeration will actually be pleased that our allies have lost all respect for us. They think God has chosen this country and God will protect us no matter what we do. Maybe God protects old dogs and children but he won't protect a nation dedicated to selfishness, stupidity, and short sightedness.

Posted by: Lost in Texas | September 4, 2008 11:09 AM | Report abuse

She proved she is no lightweight, at least at giving speeches. Sure, it was all style, little or no substance, but that's what the conventions are - it's exactly how last week's speeches were. It's all cheerleading at this point, nothing more, from either party.

We'll see how she does in interviews and debates.

Both sides need to drop the "experience" angle, though. Each ticket has more to lose than to gain from that tack. Talk about actual accomplishments, sure, but to try to devalue the positions someone else held makes both sides look childish.

Oh, and before I forget, the overwhelming majority of you - both Democrat and Republican - sadden and sicken me. You are shrill, ignorant, self-righteous hysterics, spewing tag lines, disinformation, and spiteful rhetoric. You are proof that we need tighter restrictions on the right to vote. The criteria we have is too broad - the proof is the fact that so many of you worthless, selfish, hateful creeps have the right to vote. You are not qualified to have a say in how the affairs of this country are administered.

Posted by: So far, as expected | September 4, 2008 11:08 AM | Report abuse

This mildly attractive gal explicitly represents everything this McSame campaign has been to date: all image and no substance. This "dog in lipstick" will just put a prettier face on the McSame/Rove policy of "nevermind what we CAN do, do you know what Obama CAN'T do?" It's tedious.

Posted by: intheknow | September 4, 2008 11:08 AM | Report abuse

just another dick cheney

Posted by: irene | September 4, 2008 11:08 AM | Report abuse

Big hair, no cattle.

John McCain rails against celebrity, yet both Fred Thompson and now Sarah Palin are hardly not celebrities.

McCain doesnt want a VP who can contribute, he will surround herself with Lieberman and Lindsay Graham and Palin will be relegated to supermarket openings.

Salin Palin, the babe attack dog, the new star of the hypocritical Republicans (90% white if you didnt notice)

Posted by: nclwtk | September 4, 2008 11:08 AM | Report abuse

"Two they did not acknowledge the Democrats by name which I found especially insulting and probably racist. As if Barack Obama was less than their equal."

Posted by: Cozella | September 4, 2008 11:03 AM

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Oh yes, it must be racism... Isn't that argument getting old? When all else fails, call out racism!

Posted by: ssphx | September 4, 2008 11:08 AM | Report abuse

Meh. She's a good speaker, and great for the uberconservatives, but she's (vaguely) pushing some pretty radical policies that won't fly with most Americans. I doubt that will help McCain in November.

Posted by: Capybara | September 4, 2008 11:08 AM | Report abuse

Watch it again!

Sarah Palin National Convention Speech 09/03/2008

part 1: www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcj4v6YMOZI
part 2: www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzjivV09-Qg
part 3: www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZOpS7YDBEM&feature=related
part 4: www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLdO7qSJn-8


To support Palin's candidacy, you MUST now donate to the RNC, as the McCain campaign has accepted federal funds and can't spend donations for campaigning as of 09/01.

https://secure.gop.com/donate/

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 4, 2008 11:07 AM | Report abuse

Do your homework first and you will see Palin has more governing experience than Obama has
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in what capacity? obama was in the illinois legislature for 8 years, representing chicago, a city with almost 3 million people. and he's been in the u.s. senate for 4 years. she was the mayor of mayberry, u.s.a., a town of 5700 people when she was mayor. and you have the audacity to make that equal? stunning. as she herself said, it's a town with 53 employees and a $6,000,000 budget, it's not rocket science.
i cannot believe the meanness displayed by the republicans thus far. it's what is done when you have no message.

Posted by: janetm | September 4, 2008 11:07 AM | Report abuse

THERE YOU GO--- "PULLING THE WOOL OVER MY EYES AGAIN"!

Posted by: kokingaye | September 4, 2008 11:07 AM | Report abuse

The bible also espouses socialism - I believe God struck down someone who did not turn over all of his property to community ownership? Remember that? You have to decide what the most important issues are to you - is it abortion, or is it social justice? is it banning gay marriage, or is it keeping us out of war (and killing - hardly "turning the other cheek, eh)? One-issue voters, particularly on the types of things that are not reflective of the MAJOR issues of national well-being, is narrow-minded, and will ultimately seal your own fate. Christians (and I am one) who like Obama take a bit of a broader view on things - there is plenty of things about McCain and Republicans that go squarely against what the bible says too.

Posted by: To "Wow" | September 4, 2008 11:07 AM | Report abuse

Last Night I watched a woman speak in my home state. Watched her lie about Republicans "caring about small business and family farms" when her administration voted AGAINST every farm bill congress tried to pass. A congress that "hasn't passed any legislation" because of the Power or VETO that Bush has cemented to his hand. I am what a lot of you out there call a "granola eating, left wing, libral", but how in good conscience how could you sit an listen to old style GOP Bulls**t!! FEAR TO THE PEOPLE!!! If you vote DEM terrorists will attack us! Come on...don't you think the lack of deplomacy these past 8 years has something to do with that? Our Way or The Highway!!! I choose the Highway and hopefully the majority of Americans will too. What experience qualifies McCain other than his "hero" status. McCain is a man who sat in at POW camp during the war and that "qualifies" him of having military leadership skills???? I want my President to have more on his resume than a "Thumbs Up". I'm pretty sure Palin/McCain have NEVER worked/lived in a high poverty/high minority area and have NO idea what REAL middle class is. But I guess McCain/Palin make more than $5 million a year and wouldn't understand paycheck to paycheck. Seriously...WAKE UP AMERICA!! It's time to take our country back!

Posted by: Minnesota | September 4, 2008 11:07 AM | Report abuse

But this Holy Sister is not like you other Christians! She's one of those LYING Christians. Wouldn't she know that Obama didn't endorse any of the ideas she attributed to him? I love that you want to quote that Obama thinks he's the messiah and then hold up Sister Sarah Moosekiller as if she were the Virgin Mary. REAL Christians are appalled at your hypocrisy.

Posted by: Incredulous | September 4, 2008 11:05 AM | Report abuse

As a independent voter my problem with the republicans are that they never admit the mistakes they've made and how they plan to fix them. The conservative wing is especially bad at this. They want to blame all that is wrong on someone else and take credit for all that is good. I've heard nothing different this week.

Posted by: TonyJ2 | September 4, 2008 11:04 AM | Report abuse

Although I was really put off by her sarcasm, I have to say, it was a good, emotional, Norma Ray-esque, the little people of the small towns who watch hockey and love God and are the backbone of this country shall overcome speech. It was a good, inspirational, we are good people who send our kids off to victory in Iraq speech.

Unfortunately, I want my kids to go to college, and be able to actually work in the country where they are born, and get paid reasonably well for it, in whatever profession they choose. I don't want them to be parents and veterans at the age of 19. If that makes me part of the "elite" so be it. I am from a small town, and I went to a small, small-minded, low-funded public school, where steel plants were the main industry, and 10% of kids pursued any form of college. And, yes, maybe that is great for some people - maybe they love it, and don't want any change, they want to be proud of where they are from and who they are, and not reminded of the fact that our educational system is lacking, that there are fewer and fewer jobs for their kids in those small towns, and less and less opportunity - that more of their children have to go fight our wars, to victory, whatever that means, and don't have any hope of a job, an education, or a better life afterwards. But they should want more for their kids. People in these small, dead end towns that fear big government - although when, exactly, is government bigger than when it insists we pursue a hopeless war to "victory" and beyond - so, so desperately need assistance, need help, need change, however it comes. And when they go bankrupt because they can't afford health care and no one in their family makes more than a minimum wage, when they have to work two jobs to support their teenage kids kids, when they lose the house that they could never actually afford, they are the very first ones who seek and demand the government's assistance. Those are the people that need change more than any other sector of the country. And it needs to be proactive rather than reactive. You have to spend money to make money, folks - and lets face it, you don't have any. It is the actual middle class - working professionals - that will be paying for this change. And maybe we don't mind, because it means communities we are not afraid for our children to live in, and a world that does not see us as ridiculous, broke, loud cowboy used car-salesmen. It means not cringing when our leader speaks.

Further, at this point, I think we desperately need a President who is a member of the intellectual "Elite". And I am very, very confused as to why we would want to avoid placing these so called educational elite in positions of leadership. When I am looking to hire an accountant, a lawyer, any person who is going to advise and represent me - yes, I want someone smarter than me! Not someone who is just like me, just a regular Joe Blow. And since when, exactly, did the Republican party eschew the elite....?

Posted by: RJ | September 4, 2008 11:03 AM | Report abuse

This was politics as usual for the Republican Party. I found it to be offensive on many levels. One there was NO policies articulated for the economy that American's are struggling with right now.

Two they did not acknowledge the Democrats by name which I found especially insulting and probably racist. As if Barack Obama was less than their equal.

It lacked direction and analysis for the country and support for McCain's policies,while it provided half-truths and some out and out lies about Obama and Biden.

They keep saying that Biden can't attack the girl well if she is a tough as she makes herself out to be she should be able to take it "like a woman." I think the Democrats need to exploit her every weakness. They do that by remaining focused on the things that the American people need right now.

In this speech the only way to show love and service for your country is to sign up for an illegitimate war and possibly die for a lie.

My brother who is looking forward to his 2nd tour of duty for the Army told me when GWB was up for his second term that if I didn't vote for Kerry he kill me personally. (Just a joke I am his favorite sister.)

Wake up America if you can't see that this Republican candidate and his running mate have no ideas on how to help the American economy get back on its feet...then you deserve every thing WE get.

Oh and by the way it was Right Winged Conservative Dr. Laura who said that she should be focusing on the needs of her 17 year old daughter and her 3 month old son.

My question for the Media is; are you going to run and hide because the Republicans said "They're picking on us."
Or are you going to "man up and woman up" and tell the American people the facts of the matter?

Posted by: Cozella | September 4, 2008 11:03 AM | Report abuse

Wow.

The democrats who complain about the red meat nature of her speech as disappointing, are completely lacking in integrity, didnt watch Biden's speech(not likely), or suffer from an organic neurologic lesion that doesnt allow long term memory imprinting.

You choose. I personally think complete lack of integrity.

As far as Hillary's qualification - she was elected based on her willingness to support her philandering husband. To the point where she was willing to go on national tv to claim that her husband's inappropriate liason with junior staff was a right wing conspiracy.

Posted by: gtr | September 4, 2008 11:03 AM | Report abuse

She's just not qualified. No speech is going to change that.

She's a perfect example of the double standard the GOP is setting for themselves: listen to what we say, but don't look at what we do. You can't deny that the GOP has been attacking Obama for reasons that apparently don't count for Palin.

With all the respect I have for McCain, the risk of having Palin in the White House, is just too much for me.

Posted by: Peter Verpoorten | September 4, 2008 11:03 AM | Report abuse

I just love how people continue to bash Sarah Palin in this blog for sticking up for herself. For the last week all you Dems and Media folk have done nothing but mock her experience, question her abilities and attack her and her family.

Then she comes out swinging last night and few of you have said that you are "appalled" and "disgusted" with how she took some jabs (aka counter punches) to those very people who have belittled her.

Give me a break!! Her performance was excellent and she did exactly what she was supposed to do. And that was to paint a picture of confidence, show off her ability to speak publicly, and make a case for herself.

She did that in spades. I think she will make a huge dent into the "Security Moms" demographic and the woman out there who are on the fence.

Posted by: Alex | September 4, 2008 11:03 AM | Report abuse

"Mrs. Palin needs to be reminded that Jesus Christ was a community organizer and Pontius Pilate was a governor."

True. But unlike Obama, Jesus actually brought about change instead of talking incessantly about it or writing two memoirs.

Also, Jesus didn't vote "present" 130 times...

Posted by: Right Winger | September 4, 2008 11:03 AM | Report abuse

FRED - Do your own research, buddy. As stated by the University of Chicago, "From 1992 until his election to the U.S. Senate in 2004, Barack Obama served as a professor in the Law School. He was a Lecturer from 1992 to 1996. He was a Senior Lecturer from 1996 to 2004, during which time he taught three courses per year. Senior Lecturers are considered to be members of the Law School faculty and are regarded as professors, although not full-time or tenure-track. The title of Senior Lecturer is distinct from the title of Lecturer, which signifies adjunct status. Like Obama, each of the Law School's Senior Lecturers has high-demand careers in politics or public service, which prevent full-time teaching. Several times during his 12 years as a professor in the Law School, Obama was invited to join the faculty in a full-time tenure-track position, but he declined." Why did he decline, Fred? Uh, maybe because he was also serving in the Illinois legislature from 1997-2004? Get your facts straight, my friend.

Posted by: Holly | September 4, 2008 11:02 AM | Report abuse

"Comment on Palin's speech is legitimate, but what passes for comment in these posts is somewhere between dismaying, frightening and pathetic. "

100% agree. Lighten up. Whether you agree or disagree, there are more than 2 sides to the issues. Make your own decisions, and please stop spouting off verbatim "party dogma" as one says. Makes you all look like you have no life...

Posted by: sharon | September 4, 2008 11:01 AM | Report abuse

It's amazing how some so called 'christians' on this board support Obama, with his support for gay marriage, abortion, and liberal views.
Have you read your bible lately? Do you research before you conjure your own distorted views.

Posted by: Wow | September 4, 2008 11:01 AM | Report abuse

quel hauteur!

Posted by: frank | September 4, 2008 11:01 AM | Report abuse

Incidentally the most offensive comment came from Huckabee, who said "I'm not a Republican because I grew up rich, but because I didn't want to spend the rest of my life poor, waiting for the government to rescue me". I think most people would love to "make it on their own", but in a capitalist society, some people are going to lose, through no fault of their own. Many try to transition to a "winning track", but what are they supposed to do in the meantime? Huckabee's seeming distaste for social support - a key role of the government - is pretty shocking considering he's an Evangelical, in name at least. Must be that abortion and keeping rights away from gays are the only true important things facing the country.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 11:01 AM | Report abuse

I found it be an effective speech in terms of reinvigorating the true believers, but she me left me cold.

There was no substance there, and the only impression I got was that, should she and McCain be elected, we're going to see the same old tired Republican creed of non-governance that this country has endured over the past 8 years.

Posted by: Richard | September 4, 2008 11:01 AM | Report abuse

I find it hard to reconcile the negative attack style Palin employed with her Christian values. As a Christian, I value a principled and constructive approach to solving the nation's problems and confronting challenges in the future. Last night, I learned very little about what McCain/Palin would actually do--just listened to a lot of snarky potshots.

Posted by: Emily | September 4, 2008 11:01 AM | Report abuse

Mrs. Palin needs to be reminded that Jesus Christ was a community organizer and Pontius Pilate was a governor.

Posted by: Laura | September 4, 2008 10:52 AM

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I bet you would like us all to believe that Obama is Jesus Christ as well? What in the hell does this comment have to do with executive experience. No one questions whether community organizers are important... that wasn't the message. The message was, being a community organizer is nothing like being mayor or anyother executive position. Stop trying to twist her words like MSNBC did last night.

Posted by: ssphx | September 4, 2008 11:00 AM | Report abuse

"Do you realize that most of America is Christian and you just insulted and put them into a negative category? Your entire response was insulting and you want to complain about Palin mocking Obama?"

Posted by: ssphx | September 4, 2008 10:54 AM

ssphx.....I am not running for President so it doesn't really matter if you think what I said id insulting. I am responding to what the RNC is selling me. Go watch wrestling and you will see the same type of dog and pony show.

by the way, Obama was right about the clinging to guns and religion.....people need to grow up and evolve a little bit. Jesus didn't go around blowing up innocent people and making excuses for it.

Posted by: JLee | September 4, 2008 11:00 AM | Report abuse

Alaska, I like your people but dislike your governor. She's so unlike your people.

Posted by: jameo | September 4, 2008 11:00 AM | Report abuse

I thought she was impressive last night, but then I saw a speech she gave a few years ago (without a speechwriter and training). Not too good...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9tJX-e24iQ

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 11:00 AM | Report abuse

McCain and Mrs. Moosekiller - sounds like a Hollywood movie in the making!

(my apologies to Warren and Julie)

Posted by: Gonzo boy | September 4, 2008 10:59 AM | Report abuse

MORE REPUBLICAN HATE SPEECH

MORE REPUBLICAN HATE SPEECH

MORE REPUBLICAN HATE SPEECH

AND WE WONDER WHY THE WORLD HATES US

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 10:59 AM | Report abuse

Palin is a woman who serves you brownies laced with arsenic and a smile. Her speech was nasty and offensive. By mocking community organizers she insulted the very women that fought for her right to vote and run for office, as well as the folks responsible for civil rights in this country, and gay rights, labor rights, environmental awareness and on and on. Community organizers are activists and they choose a life that serves people in need and usually at a salary far less than the private sector. I've been a community organizer most of my adult life and I was deeply offended by Palin's belittling of my work.

Posted by: Tony in L.A. | September 4, 2008 10:59 AM | Report abuse

I thought Bush and Cheney had perfected the technique of serial lying and denying. Turns out they had a brilliant understudy in Palin, one who will easily surpass them in short order.

Posted by: GO | September 4, 2008 10:58 AM | Report abuse

Twist in the wind Kos and MoveOn.

What you have is a "gorgeous" 65 year old Bloviator.

Posted by: Zippy | September 4, 2008 10:58 AM | Report abuse

Lipstick on a pig. But it is still a pig. The GOP, that is.

Posted by: kralford | September 4, 2008 10:58 AM | Report abuse

At least I hope she is a better shot than Cheney........

Posted by: Fonz | September 4, 2008 10:57 AM | Report abuse

Plain's selection was a perfect. it baited the left with her hard conservative stance and they dumped on her for a week.

In calling out her "inexperience" they stepped into the trap and exposed Obama for the light weight he is. One who can deliver a speech, but has accomplished very little.

Obama touts his ethics reform bill, but all the Washington insiders know that there is an ethics reform bill every congress and it is shucked off on the most junior senators so they can show the folks back home something while the big boys run the country.

Is Obama so naive to not understand this, or does he think we are?

Palin's accomplishments are real and her story every bit as compelling as Obama's but she hasn't written even one book about herself. She has managed to run a state, though.

Imagine that.

Posted by: John | September 4, 2008 10:56 AM | Report abuse

Mayor Rudi and the Vp nominee spoke of hate and more hate against Obama. A very disgusting convention and the old geezer will probably add to it tonight.

Posted by: Mike Morgan | September 4, 2008 10:56 AM | Report abuse

In reading the overwhelming comments against Mrs. Palin, I am reminded that most Washington Post readers, IE, MD, DC, No VA residents are already voting for the democratic ticket, as will most urban centers and California. I don’t expect this speech to shock and awe the elite set and the RNC has already conceded this. This speech was directed at fly over country, at Americans who are still proud of their country and believe in it. All the liberal whiners out there are asking, Where's my handout, Where are the freebies? No free rides with RNC. Pull yourself up by the bootstraps. Dems salivate at the notion they are going to pull Red states to their side, aint gonna happen. You complain about Iraq, but when was the last time you put that in your talking points, things are going good now over there so you dismiss it? Real Patriotic. You complain about energy, but the Speaker of the House won't allow a vote on domestic drilling? That's effective. The economy is in the dump, well, raise taxes more on business and see where the jobs go? Take a good look at the list of speakers paraded out this week and the RNC, there is your experience. Who's sitting on Obama's cabinet? Reid, Pelosi, Edwards, who? Nobody likes a whiner, why doesn't the DNC grow a pair ?

Posted by: NCvotingGOP | September 4, 2008 10:56 AM | Report abuse

I am deeply worried about the mental state of a certain percentage of Americans, men and women alike, who think Palin is a GOOD CHOICE. Wake up people, she isn't!

Her speech was all bark, no bite, no issues, just well read words which avoid the issues. American is going down the toilet, thanks to the past 8 years, if you want to flush it all away once and for all. Then go ahead America, vote for McCain/Palin.

And to all Americans who like hockey moms or whatever...GET OVER IT. Being a mother and having a job DOES NOT qualify you to be 2nd in line!!!!! WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!!! Her family is a bit of a mess, she should worry a bit more about them and let QUALIFIED people try to fix the even bigger mess that is our country.


Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 10:56 AM | Report abuse

I’m impressed by her presence on stage. Unbelievable, very few speakers can be in such commmand of the stage.

For the critics on lack of policy, did you complain about Biden’s speech? It was not exactly long on policy.

McCain will be the policy guy.

VP’s job is to knock the opponent off his pedestal, to be the attack dog.

She was fabulous!

Posted by: Jeff | September 4, 2008 10:56 AM | Report abuse

Mean Girl.

Why are you showing a picture of her blowing a kiss (how sexist)? Why not the smirk? That was her most characteristic look. Pit bull in lipstick.

Posted by: Kathleen Hussein in Maine | September 4, 2008 10:55 AM | Report abuse

Seems like she must be the queen of the one line zinger. (that someone else wrote) I fear that would be her position in the VEEP office.At least I take comfort knowing that she would not be the power behind the throne. I strongly suspect her only personal message was her stating of her own name. I was not impressed by her Obama bashing Mc Cain hugging blather.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 10:54 AM | Report abuse

am a lifelong democrat who will never vote for obama. with gov palin, i now have absolute reason to vote GOP. america first!

Posted by: mikel | September 4, 2008 10:54 AM | Report abuse

"...Christians who love war and the death penalty, yet hate people who look, think, or sound different.

It is scary that some people are actually going to vote for these Republican neandrathals. Why don' think talk about things that matter instead of mocking. Oh thats because they are losers.....which is what they will be in this election."

Posted by: Jeremy Lee | September 4, 2008 10:49 AM
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Oh yes, and you forgot one thing, "we cling to religion and guns"

Nice try, your line of thinking is the reason Obama will lose. Do you realize that most of America is Christian and you just insulted and put them into a negative category? Your entire response was insulting and you want to complain about Palin mocking Obama?

Posted by: ssphx | September 4, 2008 10:54 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: ssphx

"Oh man, I love how the dems attack an innocent hockey mom and expect to win an election! ROFL...and you people claim to be the "smart" ones? No IVY league education can teach executive experience. You have already lost middle America, have a nice day."

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Scrounging for the pity vote? Nothing said last night sounded innocent to me, nothing mother like either.. ..

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 10:53 AM | Report abuse

How does she say that she's always been proud of her country after belonging & giving speeches to a secessionist movement ? ? ?

Posted by: mklmg | September 4, 2008 10:53 AM | Report abuse

Two impressions undeniably stands out from Gov. Palin’s speech last night….

1. “The difference between a pit bull and a hockey mom is lipstick!,” and

2. Her humble and working class lifestyle says it all about her issues because she’s living them and if there is disagreement with them, you still know her intent is from the right place.

We say, “Home run!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”

Here’ ANOTHER Democrat for McCain/Palin 08′!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 10:53 AM | Report abuse

Great political speech. Great delivery. Obviously a star is born. This woman will certainly excite elements of the party that McCain leaves cold. And she proudly admits to being an attack dog in lipstick, which will be a handy distraction for a campaign espousing no meaningful policy changes from those of the current (historically unpopular) administration's. The playbook is all too familiar: If you can't beat 'em on substance, swiftboat 'em. Sadly, it may work again.

Posted by: RF | September 4, 2008 10:52 AM | Report abuse

Two comments. 1) I applaud zenwols for posting a very insightful comment, and one not laden with the usual party hack comments from both sides. 2) Why is it that so many Americans want leaders who are somehow just like them? (i.e., hockey/PTA mom or a drinking buddy)? Our leaders are supposed to represent the best of our nation, not the average. I don't want my President or Vice President to be my buddy. I want them to lead. Nothing more, nothing less.

Posted by: C | September 4, 2008 10:52 AM | Report abuse

Mrs. Palin needs to be reminded that Jesus Christ was a community organizer and Pontius Pilate was a governor.

Posted by: Laura | September 4, 2008 10:52 AM | Report abuse

This was her opportunity to introduce herself as the Republican VP Candidate - to fully present her qualifications for this position. What she presented was a snide, catty, and mean-spirited performance without any substance or basis in policy. Her performance confirms that McCain has nothing to run on and gives the American electorate no reasons to vote for the Republican ticket. Those who will support this ticket after this speech are those who have been inclined to oppose Obama from the start, for reasons that I needn't broach here. In short, the Republicans have effectively lost the support of Independents - watch for it in the Undecided representation in the polls in the coming days and weeks.

Posted by: CarolBG | September 4, 2008 10:52 AM | Report abuse

Thinking practically about how this will play out... Palin certainly is the right-wing Obama.

But I think we all just learned what that is going to mean. Palin will now be "the celebrity" getting all the attention for the next 2 months. She's going to get even more media attention than Obama will.

But what Obama discovered is that when the media covers you ALL THE TIME, it's much more likely to bring you down that help you. Think of all the silly things that afflicted Obama as a result of the media attention -- all his flaws were constantly magnified by the media glare, while John McCain manages to slip by.

As a mild Obama supporter (I'm anti-Republican more than pro-Democrat), I'm delighted to get the media spotlight off Obama for the rest of the race. Obama has done his job, now let the Republicans deal with the harsh glare of obsessive media coverage.

Posted by: CarlinFan | September 4, 2008 10:52 AM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin's speech was delivered very well, with appropriate pauses, emphatic points and solemnity, punctuated with a few jokes ("What's the difference between a pit bull and a Hockey Mom? A: Lipstick").

But when you get down to it, Palin's speech was just another political speech. Her words were carefully crafted to make her audience (and targeted Republican voters) happy, without giving us any real information about her policies or positions on critical issues.

As Biden noted this morning, nowhere in her speech did she mention health care, the housing crisis, or any of the other issues facing many Americans today. This speech makes me think Palin is a polished performer - not someone I'd trust in the White House.

Posted by: Attorney DC | September 4, 2008 10:52 AM | Report abuse

Little-known Republican governor, brought on board to be attack dog with lots of scandals brewing back home...smells like Spiro Agnew again.

Posted by: watcher | September 4, 2008 10:51 AM | Report abuse

Palin stated: "But listening to him (Obama) speak, it's easy to forget that this is a man who has authored two memoirs but not a single major law or reform -- not even in the state senate".

This is a bald-faced lie.

Obama authored an ethics reform bill in the Illinois state legislature that is considered to be one of the strongest ethics reform packages by government watchdogs.

While in the Senate Obama and Sen. Tom Coburn authored the Government Transparency Act, which increases the transparency of the government earmark process.

This is not the only out-right deception in Palin's speech last night.

e.g. She stated that she will do tremendous things for "special needs" kids.

Yet as Governor, she slashed funding for special needs programs by over 67 percent last year.

Not all special needs families can live off the largess of Republican sugar-daddies, and tax-payouts from Big Oil like the Palin's do.

She lied about her stance on the Bridge to Nowhere -- a measure that she favored, before she opposed it. When the government allocated $200 million to the state of Alaska she simply pocketed the federal money.

We shouldn't glorify politicians whose main virtue is the ability to lie with a straight face.

Posted by: JP2 | September 4, 2008 10:51 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: scrivener | September 4, 2008 10:51 AM | Report abuse

Two impressions undeniably stands out from Gov. Palin’s speech last night….

1. “The difference between a pit bull and a hockey mom is lipstick!,” and

2. Her humble and working class lifestyle says it all about her issues because she’s living them and if there is disagreement with them, you still know her intent is from the right place.

We say, “Home run!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”

Here’ ANOTHER Democrat for McCain/Palin 08′!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 10:50 AM | Report abuse

Vile.

Posted by: thejoshuablog.com | September 4, 2008 10:50 AM | Report abuse

"We love Palon here in flie over country! Edumacation from some poison ivy college don't mean nuthin to us real amuricans. We's the ones is gonna lect Mccane and Palan. You just wach! Then all yous high-fallutin librals cain jus all go back to yur fansy houses and read bout each other in the tablods. Us middle amurcans will laf as mccain an Palen blow up other countries to kep us all saif! Yull see!"

Posted by: trailertom | September 4, 2008 10:44 AM

Once again you expose your hatred of anyone that does not think like you. I am a very educated person (not IVY league) and I am voting MC/Palin.

Keep insulting middle America, and see where that gets you.

Posted by: ssphx | September 4, 2008 10:50 AM | Report abuse

Haha, all you ignorant democrats are so scared, look at all these anti-Palin responses. I can't wait for another 8 or more years of the GOP in office!

Posted by: Wow | September 4, 2008 10:49 AM | Report abuse

EarlC

"As a Christian, I found the tone and content of most of the speeches so far at the RNC convention to be anything but Christian in tone and content."

So, as a Christian, you find it OK to support a party platform and candidates that support killing babies that God has created? Christian...I don't think so.

Posted by: FedUp | September 4, 2008 10:49 AM | Report abuse

There was zero substance in any of those speeches and I feel like I was being treated like I was a 12 yr old retard who loves fake wrestling. I hate politicians in general, but watching the RNC last night was a joke. Seriously, are people this stupid. They are catering to all of those ignorant Christians who love war and the death penalty, yet hate people who look, think, or sound different.

It is scary that some people are actually going to vote for these Republican neandrathals. Why don' think talk about things that matter instead of mocking. Oh thats because they are losers.....which is what they will be in this election.

Posted by: Jeremy Lee | September 4, 2008 10:49 AM | Report abuse

HOLLY - what puzzles me is that you say both Senators on the Dem side have foreign policy experience, which show you have no idea of what you are talking about. Obama has none, that is why he went after BIDEN...do you read or research before you comment or do you just comment. Do your homework first and you will see Palin has more governing experience than Obama has and he is your candidate for Prez not VP, plus his total experienc is all we know a Community Organizer and no achievements, awards on notable CHANGE occurred or has been noted, the other was a PART TIME Illiois State Senate position, and oh I forgot a LAW PROFESSOR, then he backtracked it to a Sr. Fellow not a Professor or Law teacher, and finally 143 days as a Senator which comes out to about 3 months. Please research first!

Posted by: Fred23 | September 4, 2008 10:48 AM | Report abuse

I was very annoyed today after seeing this attack from Palin. I was very sympathetic with her since I also have a down syndrome 22 year lod boy. How could everyone allow this woman to get away with soliciting her down syndrome baby as a pond, also attacking everyone including the community organizers when she never even gave an interview to anyone yet. It made me sick to see her young pregnant daughter and such young boyfriend on stage, is this what our country's values are? honestly is this what we are going to teach our kids, go ahead mom and daughter, lets all have babies, live in the same house and at the same time teach the other young women how to do this. This is rediculous, and trust me this have nothing to do with Obama, BIDEN, DEMOCRATICS OR REPUBLICS. I am very sad today that these are the values we teach our kids. I also think that either Ms. Clinton or Ms. Rice or someone please say something to help our daughters to see that this is not the right thing to do please I ask someone to step up Enough is Enough, I am so speechless, this is what our Media has come to. I promise I will never look at the news again, my TV is only for watching sports. I am so tired of both partys , using women and babies as ponds, I am so sick to my stomach.

Posted by: Tracey A. Williams | September 4, 2008 10:47 AM | Report abuse

How did the speach go politically?

Lots of sarcasm, little substance !

But hey, by the way Governor, The David Letterman Show called and since you did such a great job of delivering the punch lines for the “Top Ten Reasons” you think we shouldn’t vote for the Barack Obama/Joe Biden ticket, they wanted to know if it’s possible to for you to deliver “The Top Ten Reasons” we should vote for the John McSame/Sarah Cheney ticket.

They know it will be a challenge, but they’d like you to give it a try.

I was also discussing your monologue with a couple of joke writers and they believe you should have used a rim shot at the end of each of the punch lines for affect. (Yeah know the drum roll "ba-dum-bum-CHING.”)

Other than that, you could be working on Comedy Central doing stand ups in no time.

Posted by: Hello | September 4, 2008 10:47 AM | Report abuse

Check out the Anchorage Daily News article on how far she stretched the truth:

http://www.adn.com/sarah-palin/story/515517.html

It's interesting to see how she bends the truth and makes statements that aren't true. It's time for her to do an interview with the press where she will be held accountable for what she says.

Posted by: Ed H. | September 4, 2008 10:46 AM | Report abuse

Am I to asume the USA is the only country in the world where a paid politician can unashamedly mock the work of a selfless community organiser and think she can get away with it? In the rest of the world, it is usually the other way around.

Posted by: Reddy | September 4, 2008 10:46 AM | Report abuse

It's too late now, I should have suggested this before the nomination, but I think that Sarah Palin should be running for president with John McCain the vice-president.

That just make a lot more sense to me...

Posted by: BlackDogClan | September 4, 2008 10:46 AM | Report abuse

rtfanning wrote: "We are a political nation. We talk politics. So fill that area with humor: sly humor, teasing humor, humor that speaks a great truth or makes a sharp point."

Truer words have never been spoken 'my friends' when the oppositions platform is solely based on hatred and revenge directed at Bush.
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Everytime a GOP attack backfires, they say it was a joke. This is called "treading the waters". Otherwise if the "joke" stuck, they would run with it. What is true is the party's desperate abomination of peoples intelligence behind these jokes..And the "my friends" schtik, has got to go..It is way too folky and out dated, it's become nauseating..How about his friends the past 8 years. Let's hear it ..

Posted by: jameo | September 4, 2008 10:46 AM | Report abuse

I'm stunned that anyone can say Palin didn't do a remarkable job. I am an American and I'm proud to be an American. For those of you who think being an American is mean and nasty, well, shame on you for not having the same passion for our country that Palin and her supporters do. Let's go Palin!

Posted by: Unbelievable | September 4, 2008 10:45 AM | Report abuse

Obama has finally been slapped down like the unqualified IVY league elitist he really is.

Here is the dems strategy: Compare everyone to Bush and talk about the failures of the past 8 years. The entire strategy of the dems has been to smear MC and now Palin.

Palin stood up to the liberal elite and talked to the roots of the country. Since the majority of the country live in the space between New York and San Fran, I guess we already know who has the real strategy. Good game, she has my vote.

Posted by: ssphx | September 4, 2008 10:45 AM | Report abuse

McCain needs to secure the votes of the traditional Republican states, you know, the ones that brought Bush into the presidency 8 years ago. Having come from those states and now living in Arizona, I can tell you she will be energize the otherwise flagging ticket (even here in AZ) and given it identity. They don't care what the traditional democrats, Washington nephytes and political sideline pundits (like most of the commentators above) think or say. Is he secures those states, his chances of success are huge.

Posted by: QLO | September 4, 2008 10:44 AM | Report abuse

i think she's great, so was her speech. she may not be as elegant as hilary, but she is simple and she is touching the mass americans.

palin is a common american woman in middle age. her used-to-be blue collor worker husband, her bravodo to beauty competition,her pregnant 16-years-old daughter, her to-be-iraq war son...

this is the common value of average americans, we may have some thing good or bad in life, but we have courage to face it, beyond that, we still have our dreams, to be better.

Posted by: Catpick | September 4, 2008 10:44 AM | Report abuse

We love Palon here in flie over country! Edumacation from some poison ivy college don't mean nuthin to us real amuricans. We's the ones is gonna lect Mccane and Palan. You just wach! Then all yous high-fallutin librals cain jus all go back to yur fansy houses and read bout each other in the tablods. Us middle amurcans will laf as mccain an Palen blow up other countries to kep us all saif! Yull see!

Posted by: trailertom | September 4, 2008 10:44 AM | Report abuse

To "reason":
"McCain trumps Biden with real life foreign policy experience"?
Being a POW and serving in the military is pretty narrow "foreign policy experience", unless all you want to do is go to war. I thought that was what we were trying to AVOID? Somewhere with a broader life perspective, i.e. an understanding of how other people LIVE, not die, would seem to be a better choice. McCain doesn't trump Biden on this, and doesn't trump Obama either. McCain is "same old America" of late as far as that's concerned, and given our standing in the world today, there's a reason why the world wants Obama. We should stop being so arrogant for a minute and take a listen.

Posted by: c-hawk | September 4, 2008 10:44 AM | Report abuse

How depressing. All I see reading through these comments are party drones. Did anyone get raised to think for themselves? One post spouts Republican dogma, followed by a post that spouts Democrat dogma. You better believe that both parties love all this bickering. When will you figure out that it does not matter who is in the oval office or controls the hill. Both sides want big government. Both sides want to impose their notion of right on the world. Both sides cater to the big corporations. Both sides want to control how and what you think. Both sides think they know what is best for you. While you bicker about who is best to lead this country, they laugh at you for being so naive to think that one party offers real differences over the other. With a wink to the other, each party seeks to increase the government's daily control over your lives, while lining their pockets with money from all special interests. Do you want real change? Then reject both parties. Declare them to be antiquated relics that have lost touch with the people of this country. Cast out the Republicans and Democrats and start fresh. Evaluate individuals running for office on their merits alone, not on the affilation attached to them. Only then will you see real change.

Posted by: Shocked | September 4, 2008 10:43 AM | Report abuse

Comment on Palin's speech is legitimate, but what passes for comment in these posts is somewhere between dismaying, frightening and pathetic. The Cons attack the Lib, the Libs launch into the Cons like children, or fans at a football game. Kiddies, this is not a football game, but what is probably the most fateful election of the last 50 years. It's not a reality show, not Oprah or Dr. Phil. And as such, it represents the decline of American political culture to a low ebb -- despite all the "information" that's available now, despite the talk shows and the Internet and iPhones and all the rest. If the talkbackers here represent what America has become, it's a very sad day for the United States,and indeed for the world.

Posted by: dismayed | September 4, 2008 10:42 AM | Report abuse

She did her job, and she was good at it. Her job was to bring in the base, fire up the crowd. What did it prove to an indenpendet voter?

1. She is great at giving a speech, just like Obama

2. She is lite in credentials, just like Obama

3. Did I hear anything new from the platform, no - just different messanger, with a better style of delivering it, just like Obama


Again from the mind of an independent, my question will be how will she do when off of the podium and sitting across from the so-called elite when she gets substantive questions. If she does not attempt to go with party spin, but provides an outlook of actually understanding the issues and WHERE they plan to go, then I think it will solidify her start.

However, if she gets exposed as being not as forthright on her positions, meaning saying one thing and doing another - then all her talking points and jabs she took at the DEM ticket will boomerang, and she will look like the sizzle and no steak person.

Content on issues, yeah I like fighters just as much as the next, but I want to know at least what they are talking about when there is no fight to be had - but governing and how to lead the nation back from where we are now. Not a time for more divide.....who is for everybody and not just one side versus the other.

One nation.

Posted by: Huh | September 4, 2008 10:42 AM | Report abuse

I just read a bunch of the replies and BOY, or should I say, Girl or to the sista's out there, Girlfriend....the Dems are angry now. Some of there posts are so angry and divisive calling Palin a witch and no National Experience. Whew, she did a number on you all. You all are now seeing Obama in the light and she took off his vail. I love to see you guys angry and you know how Palin was created and selected, not by McCain or the Crazy Right WING. You Democrats selected her and your Messiah lead the charge when he didnt select BILLARY,,,,,so there you gave us Palin and we want to THANK YOU FROM the bottom of our Hearts. THANK YOU DEMS FOR GIVING US PALIN!

Posted by: fred23 | September 4, 2008 10:41 AM | Report abuse

When John McCain selected Sarah Palin as his VP he wrote a check to the evangelical right wing of the Republican Party that he can neither cash nor will he want to. He sold not only his independence but also his integrity! My father, a Church of Christ minister, told six kids that when you sell your soul, get all you can for no amount of money will buy it back. I searched for downed pilots in the S. China Sea. Found them, frequently killed by the tail of their plane as they ejected. Same experience you endured. I was there the day you came home. I cried, proud for you and what you had done.
I've followed your career waiting for the moment I could support you in a Presidential election. As a Republican, I voted for you in the Florida primary. I expected great things. For the first time in your life you took the easy road. Was it worth it?

Posted by: zenwols | September 4, 2008 10:41 AM | Report abuse

The tried-and-true Republican strategy of selling the electorate the snake oil of Nationalism and Moral Imperative to vote against their own best interests still works; just as it did for the Nazis in the early 30s. Just watch.....

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 10:41 AM | Report abuse

I was a big fan of the Xena the Warrior show, but can someone please keep this woman away from our nuclear weapons?

Seriously, this focus on her "experience" puzzles me. We've had eight years to see how helpful the executive experience of a governor from a much more populous frontier state was in dealing with 21st century issues and inspiring our allies. The population of Alaska is comparable to Memphis, TN or Charlotte, NC. Both U.S. Senators on the other ticket are experienced in foreign relations and in the yearly federal budget process, both have graduate law degrees, and we have already seen how their candidate was received by our traditional allies in western Europe and Israel. We need forward-looking leadership. I would expect a former tv sportscaster and beauty contestant with a bachelor's degree in communications to do a good job delivering a canned speech. "I'm not a vice-president, but I play one on tv." Duh!

Values - exactly what is so Christian about this person? Jesus of Nazareth taught to love your neighbor as yourself. To folks at my church, this means treat those less fortunate than yourself with compassion. Gov Palin could not even leave $25K in the state budget to support a shelter for unwed mothers less fortunate than her daughter. Walk the walk, lady. Anybody can wear a cross necklace and wave a Bible around.

Posted by: Holly | September 4, 2008 10:41 AM | Report abuse

Palin is the right women in the right time and last night was just the beginning.

Is it throwing mud to demonstrate Obama's lack of experience? Or that the progrmas he advocates will cost 100s of Billions of Dollars? Or point out his vote against "the surge?" Or to point out that "the surge" has worked as McCain said it would.

I think not.

Compare this to Sally Quinn's statement that Palin should have turned down the nomination because the demands of her 5 child family are too great.

Throwing mud? Hardly

Posted by: Paul | September 4, 2008 10:41 AM | Report abuse

The "speech" was written before Palin was even identified as VP, so as far as defining who she is, we still have no idea.

She sounded like a competent high school valedictorian. Platitudes and attitudes, but nothing indication where she stands.

Except...she threw down the gauntlet in front of the press. NYT, WP, all the networks. She called out the press and insulted it, which seems like a risky move. The only paper really digging right now is the National Enquirer, but perhaps some of the others who still pay reporters to do basic research will take up the challenge.

I would not vote for McCain/Palin in a million years, but I felt that way before she spoke.

Posted by: roboturkey | September 4, 2008 10:40 AM | Report abuse

She elevated finger-wagging to a new level and managed to avoid confronting the real issues of the campaign: the deterioration of our economy under the Bush administration, and a war that has cost us close to a trillion dollars and the lives of thousands of Americans in the military.

Posted by: Jennifer | September 4, 2008 10:40 AM | Report abuse

I can't beleive that the Republicans want to take swipes at community involvement. Community involvement that helps people get jobs and help them get their lives back together after Republican policies have left their lives in despair. I guess Alaska does not need "community organizers" since they get two thirds of their revenue from big oil and the federal government.

Posted by: bob | September 4, 2008 10:40 AM | Report abuse

Are Republicans entirely opposed to reality? Over the past eight years, they have managed to take a country that I believe the Founding Fathers would have been proud of and turned it into a divided nation clearly moving in the wrong direction, and yet somehow the Democrats continue to be pegged as unpatriotic, lesser citizens.

I would have voted for the McCain who ran in 2000. He was an independent thinker with an agenda of his own. Now he's merely a pawn for a party that has hemorraged away our nation's resources and reputation. And as for Governor Palin, the Republicans are absolutely right. She should never be mentioned in the same sentence as Hillary Clinton. I don't even remotely like Hillary, and even I can see that Clinton has about twice the intelligence and leadership ability as Palin. I wouldn't vote for Hillary, but I wouldn't have worried about the future of the Unites States had she been elected. I certainly can't say the same thing about Palin. She's not a maverick, she's just inexperienced(two things that the Republican party clearly have a heard time seperating, ie George W. Bush circa 2000).

I don't particularly like Obama, but since the Republicans apparently have no interest in discussing actual political issues, I'm going to vote for him by default. At least he seems genuinely interested in legislating for the common good, and not working to polarize our country any further.

Posted by: American Voter | September 4, 2008 10:40 AM | Report abuse

What does thik about the issues? How will she fix the economy? What are her solutions to the jobs leaving Michigan, Ohio, and Pennsylvania?

Don't get fooled again Ohio!!!! Don't vote for someone because the love going to church!!! What is hse going to do for you???!!

Posted by: Eileen Brosnahan | September 4, 2008 10:39 AM | Report abuse

She is unqualified. She is anti-explicit sex education, as if any other type of sex education is actually imparting any knowledge onto teenagers who, obviously (take a look to your right at your pregnant 17 year old daughter) are sexually active, and at least need to hear BOTH sexualy explicit and abstinence centered messages. She is anti-choice, which, personally, I cannot fathom how in this day in age, any person can argue that a woman does not have the right to choose what goes on inside her own body. She is running that same elitist argument into the ground, when I cannot grasp how person who has climbed the ladder of success and forged a path no one ever has before him, can be called an elitist. Then this talk about Biden and Obama's lack of military service...one's track record in the military is not indicitive of how well one will run the country. Furthermore, this is another example of how Republican's run this fear based campaign that scares people into voting for them.
I personally think McCain shot himself in the foot with this pick, she is not adding any substance to his ticket.
Lastly, I would have to disagree with Joe Biden, who I respect to the highest degree. Her family is not off limits, when this party has run on a platform of family values for years. You cannot attack the values of one party, then call another parties members untouchable simply because they are women or mothers. Men are judged each day by how they treat their wives, whether they are unfaithful, etc. So if that is the case, and she could potentially be the President one day, she should be held to the same level of scrutiny. In my family, and in most across the country, teenage pregancy is not more acceptable than education and knowledge. To be against sex education and want an abistinence only approach, is to be against teens making smart and informed choices about sex and against dealing with real-life. Teenagers are, as is obvious, having sex...so let's equip them with all the tools they need to make the most informed and well thougth out decisions. Less teens would be sexually active if they understood the consequences, the real life consequences, of their actions.
I want a President and VP who are giving real world solutions to real world problems, and not living in a terror driven fantasy land!

Posted by: klynnmorton | September 4, 2008 10:39 AM | Report abuse

I think Palin did a great job on her speech, but I disagree with her on way too many issues. She didn't win me over.

Posted by: She's a great speaker | September 4, 2008 10:39 AM | Report abuse

@Amanda Kyle: bravo!!!

I hope to God the people in America are not as stupid as Governor Palin assumes they are by the speech she gave last night. Zero substance, incredible insults to Obama's hard work in the community, and pandering to "Moms" everywhere. Yes, she delivered the speech effectively and stirred up the emotions of the ultra right-wing Christians. Is that what this country needs right now, really? She is in no way qualified to be Governor, much less Vice President, and all of that is about to come to light. I'm an independent voter, strong supporter of women's rights, and Barack Obama is my candidate. Why in the world hasn't Hillary spoken up yet against her?

Posted by: Sunny | September 4, 2008 10:37 AM | Report abuse

Anchorage Superior Court Judge Peter Michalski on Monday signed an order giving developer Gary Lundgren $314,739 in attorney fees and court costs in an eminent domain case the city filed against Lundgren's land in December 2002. In eminent domain cases, the plaintiff typically pays the defendants' court fees.

Combined with $837,000 that the city paid last year for the raw land and another $362,000 in interest payments paid in December 2007, the total price tag for the 80 acres comes to $1.5 million.

Lundgren was declared the rightful owner in 2002 and the city immediately sued to take the land by eminent domain. By that time city residents had already approved, narrowly, a half-percent increase in the city sales tax to pay for the $14.7 million facility. Construction on the sports complex was already under way.

While the eminent domain case nears its seventh year of litigation, the complex has been up and running since 2004. The city owes about $7.6 million on the sports complex construction debt and plans to make an extra payment on it this year.

Posted by: ruh roh | September 4, 2008 10:36 AM | Report abuse

That was one heck of a job... the world looked for her to fail... she hit a home run. There you go. Plain and simple... a home run.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 10:36 AM | Report abuse

What was so divisive? Standing up to the media and liberal pundits in support of middle America? Pointing out Obama lacks any executive experience? Praising John McCain's lifelong record of public service? C'mon people. Obama is the one opening touting class warfare. Obama is the one who foolishly wants to go after businesses with more taxes and regulations during a poor economy. You gotta do better then saying Palin is divisive just because she attacks the opposing candidates.

Posted by: Jim L | September 4, 2008 10:36 AM | Report abuse

Spectacular! Can she be President?

Posted by: susan | September 4, 2008 10:35 AM | Report abuse

It is a sad day when a candidate belittles another candidate for having been a community activist with "no real responsibilities". It is even sadder to see only 36 african americans in a crowd of 2,380 at the convention.
Palin was mean spirited and did not address the real problems. She pandered to the least denominator.

Mary

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 10:34 AM | Report abuse

Oh man, I love how the dems attack an innocent hockey mom and expect to win an election! ROFL...and you people claim to be the "smart" ones? No IVY league education can teach executive experience. You have already lost middle America, have a nice day.

Posted by: ssphx | September 4, 2008 10:34 AM | Report abuse

Full of sound and fury, but what did it accomplish?

I like her. My wife doesn't. We both dislike McCain. Calling Obama a snob and pretending Bush hasn't been President for the past 8 years is not really what we're looking for.

Her speech (and Guliani's) was interesting and fun to watch, but it didn't change our minds. I'd guess that's a common feeling this morning.

Posted by: Eric | September 4, 2008 10:34 AM | Report abuse

you don't get a second chance to make a first impression...

remember, Palin did not have a reservoir of good will to build upon in a biting speech...Obama spent 4 years culling an image before he really even made an attacking speech last week...he is known as inspiring..

ask yourself, was that an inspiring speech? Is that the person you want in your living room daily?

I will be very interested in how focus groups reacted...I truly think the blogger like snark, is not the statemenship swing voters were looking for...

Remember, the view of the VP is Cheney...Palin attacks may have strengthed views of her resolve, but may have reminded Americans of something they are trying to get past...

Posted by: justmy2 | September 4, 2008 10:33 AM | Report abuse

"She kicked butt! She is great. She is a governor, and it is the media laziness and elitism that the write about ANWR, but were too lazy, stupid and liberal to actually find out what is going on in the largest state in the US. Why do we read so much about Kansas, Montana and Virginia governors in the WaPo -- because they are liberals! WaPo pushed Kaine as a good choice - with the less experience than Palin. The media is left coast elitist slime. Please note that the northeast is losing massive amounts of population, and the west is growing. WaPo is a dinosaur."

Then get lost, troll.

Posted by: Palin: Pit Bull, Karen: Mutt | September 4, 2008 10:33 AM | Report abuse

She struck me as negative, sarcastic, shallow, and angry - perfect representation of her party. No wonder they were so full of nerdrage at the convention. I have a feeling, though, that most Americans are no longer buying the fear and smear now that they've experienced the horrible results of Republicanism unfettered. She'll likely pick up a few maladjusted 'pit bulls with lipstick' and most of the 'terrified of terrorists' crowd, but they're a lost cause, anyway.

Posted by: Meh | September 4, 2008 10:33 AM | Report abuse

Much has been said about how Palin has energized the Republican base.

I was (and still am) a diehard Hillary supporter feeling only lukewarm towards Obama. Something should be said about how McCain's selection of Palin is now energizing formerly undecideds like me to lean towards Obama now.

Posted by: Linda T | September 4, 2008 10:33 AM | Report abuse

She worries me, I don't believe she would be a good V.P. and am horrified by her stance on the environment among other things - book banning? no sex ed. beyond teaching abstinence? (that didn't work so well for her own family)these views are a huge step back - what will she support next, repeal of the civil rights act? I exaggerate, but really I'm very concerned.

Posted by: momoftwo | September 4, 2008 10:32 AM | Report abuse

Look, Sarah Palin has charisma and a solid presence at the podium. But she spent all night throwing out trashy schoolyard insults. It's insulting to her own supposed integrity, an insult to a real political debate and an incredible insult to the American public. Are people really going to vote for the best insult comic or are they going to vote for someone interested in repairing the damage done over the last eight years?

Add on top of her mudslinging the incredible collection of lies she paraded out and you have the exact same "politics as usual" that she's supposedly against. She lied about Obama's tax plans and his record, she lied about the Bridge to Nowhere and on and on. The truth is out there and Sarah Palin is not the truth.

Posted by: IowaGuy | September 4, 2008 10:32 AM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin, you are a liar!
Bridge to nowhere update: The $300M bridge that Palin was for until there was nothing left to be for and therefore became against… or kind of!
Palin said to the congress “thanks but no thanks”
…and then proceeded on to take the $300M pork barrel money and spent on other pork barrel projects!
Palin’s way to reform Washington: put an end to all these big useless pork barrel project… that are so visible! Instead, a good “barracuda” bite, and voila: endless list of small therefore INVISIBLE pork barrel projects…
Palin knows how to balance the family’s budget…
Specially the big happy Big Oil and Big contractors family! These pork barrel projects so dear to Former mayor of $27M pork barrel / 7000 people Wasilla are paid by… our Tax Dollars! Certainly not those of Exxon or BP, or Halliburton/KBR or Bechtel (you know, the non compete multi billion dollar specialists that line the republicans’ pockets)

Palin: screw the tax payer’s and the tax payer’s kids: take the money away from the people’ elected government, give it to the Wall Street Board room selected CEOs, and give some more: that’s what deficits are for! But do it invisibly… no more big pork barrel only piglet barrel!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 10:32 AM | Report abuse

A sad speech. Good at taunting, lite on substance. Would she govern just by attacking others or does she stand for anything? Why does PTA experience count for the VP slot???

I still cannot believe she attended a convention of Alaska secessionists in the 1990s. Does she believe in Alaska first or the USA first?

Posted by: Jeremy | September 4, 2008 10:31 AM | Report abuse

I counted three black people at the RNC convention last night, and one was Cowboy Troy. Who says it's a white people's party?

Posted by: Loren | September 4, 2008 10:31 AM | Report abuse

She was cute, and delivered a speech as well as anyone who can read and talk clearly who is plucked from the street could. So technically, it was ok.

However, it was surreal listening to her read off old, tired republican talking points and attacking the democrats on issues she has little knowledge about.
It showed in her speech that she was hollow and not informed - and was simply reading what her handlers wrote for her. I'm happy that the republicans at the convention are tripping over themselves over how she is the greatest thing since sliced bread. Keep that memory, because america is not going to elect the same crappy ideology that has ruined the country over the last 8 years.

I can't possibly buy any message of change from any republicans, since they are the ones that have dug us deep in the hole we are in today. If Palin represents change, it will have to wait till ol man McCain decides to step down after 4 years.

How come the republicans don't ever talk about the economy at this convention?

Posted by: Gary P. | September 4, 2008 10:31 AM | Report abuse

Ken, you say you don't have a clue about Palin's worldview.

Here's what I know so far:
-She opposes abortion for rape and incest survivors.
-She wants to teach creationism in schools (which, as a religious belief, belongs in churches, not in public education).
-She scoffs at environmental concerns about endangered species and global warming, and has gone so far as to sue the government for trying to protect polar bears.
-She has tried to curtail free speech (she wanted to ban books from Wasilla's library while she was mayor).
-She opposes comprehensive sex education, which may be more effective at preventing teen pregnancy than abstinence-only.
-She is pro-death penalty.

On all the issues I've seen her take a stance on, she is out of step with my values, and the values of many Americans.

Posted by: Calliope | September 4, 2008 10:30 AM | Report abuse

She was awesome. Republicans are so excited
and the rest of America should be. She
will be a great VP! Joe Biden watch out!

Posted by: Sarah | September 4, 2008 10:30 AM | Report abuse

John M. and Democrat, Sarah Palin is not lying about Obama's tax poliicies. Obama is lying about Obama's tax policies. He wants to cut taxes for 95% of the population and raise taxes for th 5% who did all of his finance bundling for this campaign. Now he's promising to create jobs by funding public works and energy initiatives. Do Dems know any math? This is all impossible. No wonder the Dems attract the youth vote. Only the naive and idealistically mentally challenged will buy their bologna.

Posted by: dcp | September 4, 2008 10:30 AM | Report abuse

Pretty mean-spirited. But what got me was how they played pass the potato with the 4 month old baby and exposed him to 20,000 screaming, germ-filled people.

Posted by: JakeD's shadow | September 4, 2008 10:29 AM | Report abuse

From:

http://www.alaskapta.org/president.htm

Alaska PTA is a statewide organization organized under the authority of National PTA. Organized in 1957, we have been working for the children of Alaska for 48 years. Alaska PTA is the oldest children’s advocacy group in the state of Alaska, representing 154 local PTA units all over Alaska with over 11,000 members statewide..

*The Mission of the PTA

To support and speak on behalf of children and youth in the schools, in the community, and before governmental bodies and other organizations that make decisions affecting children;

To assist parents in developing the skills they need to raise and protect their children;

To encourage parent and public involvement in the public schools of this nation.

* The Purposes of the PTA

To promote the welfare of the children and youth in home, school, community, and place of worship.

To raise the standards of home life.

To secure adequate laws for the care and protection of children and youth.

To bring into closer relation the home and the school, that parents and teachers may cooperate intelligently in the education of children and youth.

To develop between educators and the general public such united efforts as will secure for all children and youth the highest advantages in physical, mental, social, and spiritual education.


- - Having cleverly promoted her rise to political "statue" by association as PTA member, endorser, and mom, I'm wondering where any of this was mentioned in last nights speech? Obviously she see's herself as someone different than she acts. Cudo;s to the Alaska PTA for taking a stance right from the DNC platform..I think the governor vetoed most of their positions..


The real world exists far away from the frozen tundra. I heard very few original thoughts last night. She was out of bounds and has zero credibility to make the assertions she made, governor or no governor. Her tone was more akin to that of a jilted lover..This one obvioulsy has no street smarts. The basic rule of is to NEVER trash the competition, it backfires all the time. If you can't say something positive about what you represent don't say anything at all..Cheap night club shoes from Ross Stores is what I saw..They look good the first night you wear them.. A pitbull wearing lipstick? I wonder what the boys from South Central are thinking..First executive decision, sell the state government jet on eBay?.Honestly.

GOP = Joke

Posted by: jameo | September 4, 2008 10:29 AM | Report abuse

She's better than McCain deserves, but this speech is like a sugar rush. In one week it will be forgotten.

Posted by: bondjedi | September 4, 2008 10:28 AM | Report abuse

also, keep in mind that if elected, this woman would be following in the shoes of dick cheney. what is dick cheney doing today? he's going to georgia to encourage their aspirations for entrance in NATO ... which means, in effect, that he's provoking the russian bear. the election is in 60 days, but the ducks are sitting for another 135, and what are they doing with this time? heating up the cold war, and talking about another hot war, this time with iran (listen to ambassador bolton's remarks on the npr yesterday). bush and dick have ample time to create such a catastrophic conflagration consuming the caucases while at the same time igniting ignomies with iran (and yes i worked hard on all that alliteration), and then pass this mess off to the next president. so that's great that sarah palin can make snide remarks about about obama and biden, but is her work on the wasilla pta really going to prepare her for a no-blinking contest with putin? are the ayatollahs and mullahs going to soften their stance because she was miss congeniality? and if a president mccain were to inherit those circumstances, what do you suppose he would do?

let's not waste too much time talking about the mommy wars or covering the false outrage and contrived indignation crafted by rove and the right wing. let's not be distracted by the fluff, huff, and puff. take a look at the world today. take a look at the various problems we face as a country. take a look at your own personal situation. and ask : how have we fallen so low, and what can we do to raise ourselves up again. who has the vision, the judgment, the character, the intelligence, and the ability to address these problems?

it seems to me that a vote for the party on the right will accelerate and perhaps render irreversible the decline of the united states of america and the definitive end of the american century.

it's a good thing old man reagan is not around to see that dawn has become dusk in america, or to see what's left of his "revolution"

Posted by: the phenomenologist | September 4, 2008 10:26 AM | Report abuse

Palin is a grade A hypocrite and liar -- she cares about kids with special needs now that she has one of her own, but as governor of Alaska she slashed the education budget for special ed. She claims to have been against the bridge to nowhere when she campaigned on her support for it. She claims to have be an effective executive as Mayor of Wasilla but left the town millions of dollars in debt by the end of her term when it was debt-free when she took office. She's a walking disaster on multiple levels. She's so incredibly ignorant she thinks the Founding Fathers wrote the pledge of allegiance at the same time they wrote the Constitution (the pledge was introduced in the 20th century; the constitution was written in the 18th).

Posted by: Nan | September 4, 2008 10:26 AM | Report abuse

George W. Bush in heels.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 10:26 AM | Report abuse

This is the first time I heard Gov. Palin speak. She delivered a great speech in an arena where she should deliver a great speech. There were no dissenters, and the crowd wanted her to do well.

The first time hearing her speak, I felt she was condescending, arrogant, and overly sarcastic. Not what I like in a leader.

Posted by: Nate | September 4, 2008 10:26 AM | Report abuse

So the McCain campaign is paying you troglodytes $8/hr to post these zingers. Too bad the gig doesn't come with health insurance. But that's ok, just go to the emergency room.

PS, don't look now but your lap is full of cheeto dust and your mom is going to have to run down to the store for more mountain dew. Keep up the good work.

Posted by: Boilerroom Billy | September 4, 2008 10:25 AM | Report abuse

A totally vacuous and complaining speech about Obama that was based on insinuation and accusation, nothing more. Did we learn anything more about Palin's views on policy or her record? No. I'm glad she's fighting for special education, that's great. Other than that, she's just a puppet with a "narrative" like those MSNBC pundits said. Too bad, because I thought McCain was above all that.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 10:25 AM | Report abuse

"We are a political nation. We talk politics. So fill that area with humor: sly humor, teasing humor, humor that speaks a great truth or makes a sharp point."

Truer words have never been spoken 'my friends' when the oppositions platform is solely based on hatred and revenge directed at Bush




http://online.wsj.com/article_print/SB122044753790594947.html

Posted by: rtfanning | September 4, 2008 10:24 AM | Report abuse

Ah, the familiar neocon mantra: "Small government, lower taxes, national security." Let's look at what the neocons gave us in the last 8 years that they've run the plantation. A government that's swelled larger than at any other time in history; the creation of the massive so-called Department of Homeland Security being the example. Sure, taxes were lowered and there were all sorts of federal giveaways, but in the face of massive military spending it seemed more like the government was being run by a frat house than anybody with any sense of responsibility. As for national security, the only things the bush-leaguers did right about that was to go into Afghanistan and send al-qaida into hiding. Oh, and locks were put on airplane cockpit doors. Speaking of which, just where is the mastermind of 9-11, anyway? Enjoying more freedoms than Americans are currently enjoying, thanks to the Patriot Act and the gutting of the Constitution. None of those measures should have cost taxpayers a half trillion dollars, but that's were we stand in "national security" costs. Sure, "freedom isn't free", but only a vapid, avaricious dolt makes it so expensive. Enough already.

Oh, and by the way, as the neocons try to paint Obama as corrupt (even though he's never been accused of any such thing) they conveniently forget that McCain was caught up in an influence-peddling corruption scandal of his own during the savings and loan debacle back in the 80s. Look up the "Keating Five" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keating_5 and see Papa McCain's picture posted right there. McCain has been accused of and defines political corruption. 'Nuff said.

Posted by: Trig | September 4, 2008 10:24 AM | Report abuse

When you take away the insults and the sarcasm there was absolutely nothing left. She never mentioned health care of education or for that fact, assistance with families with special needs children. I thought i was going to hear that for sure. She never talked about what she did as Gov to increase jobs. I don't expect Governors to have Foreign Experience but i do expect them to tackle domestic issues and she didn't talk about domestic issues at all. She never talked about women's rights (equal pay for equal work). Ahgain, i thought for sure she would speak on that.

there was no difference between her and a standup comedian.

Posted by: Len | September 4, 2008 10:24 AM | Report abuse


ST. PAUL, Minn. — Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin and her Republican supporters held back little Wednesday as they issued dismissive attacks on Barack Obama and flattering praise on her credentials to be vice president. In some cases, the reproach and the praise stretched the truth.

Some examples:

PALIN: "I have protected the taxpayers by vetoing wasteful spending ... and championed reform to end the abuses of earmark spending by Congress. I told the Congress 'thanks but no thanks' for that Bridge to Nowhere."

THE FACTS: As mayor of Wasilla, Palin hired a lobbyist and traveled to Washington annually to support earmarks for the town totaling $27 million. In her two years as governor, Alaska has requested nearly $750 million in special federal spending, by far the largest per-capita request in the nation. While Palin notes she rejected plans to build a $398 million bridge from Ketchikan to an island with 50 residents and an airport, that opposition came only after the plan was ridiculed nationally as a "bridge to nowhere."

PALIN: "There is much to like and admire about our opponent. But listening to him speak, it's easy to forget that this is a man who has authored two memoirs but not a single major law or reform _ not even in the state senate."

THE FACTS: Compared to McCain and his two decades in the Senate, Obama does have a more meager record. But he has worked with Republicans to pass legislation that expanded efforts to intercept illegal shipments of weapons of mass destruction and to help destroy conventional weapons stockpiles. The legislation became law last year. To demean that accomplishment would be to also demean the work of Republican Sen. Richard Lugar of Indiana, a respected foreign policy voice in the Senate. In Illinois, he was the leader on two big, contentious measures in Illinois: studying racial profiling by police and requiring recordings of interrogations in potential death penalty cases. He also successfully co-sponsored major ethics reform legislation.

PALIN: "The Democratic nominee for president supports plans to raise income taxes, raise payroll taxes, raise investment income taxes, raise the death tax, raise business taxes, and increase the tax burden on the American people by hundreds of billions of dollars."

THE FACTS: The Tax Policy Center, a think tank run jointly by the Brookings Institution and the Urban Institute, concluded that Obama's plan would increase after-tax income for middle-income taxpayers by about 5 percent by 2012, or nearly $2,200 annually. McCain's plan, which cuts taxes across all income levels, would raise after tax-income for middle-income taxpayers by 3 percent, the center concluded.
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Obama would provide $80 billion in tax breaks, mainly for poor workers and the elderly, including tripling the Earned Income Tax Credit for minimum-wage workers and higher credits for larger families.

He also would raise income taxes, capital gains and dividend taxes on the wealthiest. He would raise payroll taxes on taxpayers with incomes above $250,000, and he would raise corporate taxes. Small businesses that make more than $250,000 a year would see taxes rise.

MCCAIN: "She's been governor of our largest state, in charge of 20 percent of America's energy supply ... She's responsible for 20 percent of the nation's energy supply. I'm entertained by the comparison and I hope we can keep making that comparison that running a political campaign is somehow comparable to being the executive of the largest state in America," he said in an interview with ABC News' Charles Gibson.

THE FACTS: McCain's phrasing exaggerates both claims. Palin is governor of a state that ranks second nationally in crude oil production, but she's no more "responsible" for that resource than President Bush was when he was governor of Texas, another oil-producing state. In fact, her primary power is the ability to tax oil, which she did in concert with the Alaska Legislature. And where Alaska is the largest state in America, McCain could as easily have called it the 47th largest state _ by population.

MCCAIN: "She's the commander of the Alaska National Guard. ... She has been in charge, and she has had national security as one of her primary responsibilities," he said on ABC.

THE FACTS: While governors are in charge of their state guard units, that authority ends whenever those units are called to actual military service. When guard units are deployed to Iraq or Afghanistan, for example, they assume those duties under "federal status," which means they report to the Defense Department, not their governors. Alaska's national guard units have a total of about 4,200 personnel, among the smallest of state guard organizations.

FORMER ARKANSAS GOV. MIKE HUCKABEE: Palin "got more votes running for mayor of Wasilla, Alaska than Joe Biden got running for president of the United States."

THE FACTS: A whopper. Palin got 616 votes in the 1996 mayor's election, and got 909 in her 1999 re-election race, for a total of 1,525. Biden dropped out of the race after the Iowa caucuses, but he still got 76,165 votes in 23 states and the District of Columbia where he was on the ballot during the 2008 presidential primaries.

FORMER MASSACHUSETTS GOV. MITT ROMNEY: "We need change, all right _ change from a liberal Washington to a conservative Washington! We have a prescription for every American who wants change in Washington _ throw out the big-government liberals, and elect John McCain and Sarah Palin."

THE FACTS: A Back-to-the-Future moment. George W. Bush, a conservative Republican, has been president for nearly eight years. And until last year, Republicans controlled Congress. Only since January 2007 have Democrats have been in charge of the House and Senate.

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Associated Press Writer Jim Drinkard in Washington contributed to this report.

Posted by: Some facts | September 4, 2008 10:24 AM | Report abuse

JC Wrote: "Obama's political science at Columbia and Harvard Law, president of Harvard Law Review, author of books, Illinois Sate Senator, etc... as compared with Palin's journalism degree at U. of Idaho, sportscaster, mayor of a dinky town, etc..."

That equals executive experience? Give me a break. Once again, the libs have forgotten one important lesson... most of America lives in these little "dinky towns", and you have just effectively pissed them off. We do not want to elect some IVY league known it all that has virtually NO experience "running" something. Good game, and go MC/Palin!

Posted by: ssphx | September 4, 2008 10:24 AM | Report abuse

The Republican Party has "Jumped the Shark" with Sarah Palin. Palin represents the last gasp of air for a failed political party.

Posted by: Kevin Hern | September 4, 2008 10:23 AM | Report abuse

Palin was very appealing last night. It was all identification politics. She came off as tough and competent, but still friendly. They showcased her very attractive family. Did anyone see the shot of her youngest daughter smoothing out the baby's hair. Too precious. Her husband is a cutie. Her son is going to Iraq. The other kids, pregnancy and all, are a very appealing portrait of American life. She is everyone's mom, sister, friend, and neighbor. I identified with her very strongly on a personal basis.

Look, I'm a Democrat. My brain tells me to vote with the democrats. But I also am a woman, and last night, as I was watching her, my heart told me to vote Republican this year. Still undecided. But I think this is and should be a big concern for the Obama campaign.

The Republicans are going for identification politics all the way with her. It's worked in the past, and may well work again this year.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 10:23 AM | Report abuse

Fantastic reporting and gathering of facts.

Thank you for the breath of fresh air!

Posted by: Great article! | September 4, 2008 10:23 AM | Report abuse

Vote for Mr. McCain, and when he keels over, the world will see that you have an Alaskan housewife-shrew who loves machine guns as President! The world will take her seriously, I promise!!I I will gain financially here in England. I will feel badly for Americans for a second, but you dumbasses really deserve it, and my wallet will feel sooo good!!

Posted by: LaughingAtAmerica | September 4, 2008 10:22 AM | Report abuse

Palin had that sneering tone of voice that one often finds in high school jocks - a "get out of my way because I'm cool and popular, and you are just some dorky nerd."

Posted by: Jim S | September 4, 2008 10:21 AM | Report abuse

Cut the crap. It's a bad choice. She's not qualified and McCain is a cynic dealing from a position of weakness. Its too bad we don't have a real message. For that reason, the Democrats will win in November.

Posted by: republicanbob | September 4, 2008 10:21 AM | Report abuse

As a Christian, I found the tone and content of most of the speeches so far at the RNC convention to be anything but Christian in tone and content.

Palin knows that her "Thanks, but no thanks" comment is a lie, yet she persists in usual Republican style: if you say it enough and often, it will be true.

If just the Christians would analyze the speeches, would they really want this coming from their pulpits? The Christian right criticizes Jeremiah Wright for some of his "famous" statements from his pulpit and then turn around and do the same thing. How hypocritical is this!

I cannot imagine anything constructive happening on the world stage with puffed up egocentric liars of the calibre we have witnessed for two days now. I certainly cannot imagine a country ready to come together to tackle the big issues that we face with a go-it-alone, I-do-not-care-if-they-like-me mentality in charge. It sounds like more of Bush-Cheney for another 4 years. They may be making their political points talking about 40 million abortions in this country since Roe V Wade, but they have written off 150 million living, breathing Americans with their politics of division.

Wake up America! You may end up with another 28% approval rating president for another four years. We need a regieme change, vote Democratic!

Posted by: EarlC | September 4, 2008 10:21 AM | Report abuse

She kicked butt! She is great. She is a governor, and it is the media laziness and elitism that the write about ANWR, but were too lazy, stupid and liberal to actually find out what is going on in the largest state in the US. Why do we read so much about Kansas, Montana and Virginia governors in the WaPo -- because they are liberals! WaPo pushed Kaine as a good choice - with the less experience than Palin. The media is left coast elitist slime. Please note that the northeast is losing massive amounts of population, and the west is growing. WaPo is a dinosaur.

Posted by: Karen | September 4, 2008 10:20 AM | Report abuse

Let's be clear about this: whether you liked