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Post/ABC Poll: McCain's Structural Problems


. Arizona Sen. John McCain. Photo by Mary Altaffer of the Associated Press

The new Washington Post/ABC News national poll puts John McCain behind Barack Obama by 10 points -- his biggest deficit in the survey since the general election began in June.

But, that's not the worst news in the poll for McCain. A detailed look inside the poll shows just how toxic the national political environment has become for Republicans and suggests that McCain's attempts to deprecate Obama and portray him as a risky pick have, to date, backfired.

To wit:

* Just eight percent of the national sample believe the country is headed in the right direction while a stunning 90 percent believe it is off in the wrong direction. EIGHT PERCENT!

* Twenty-three percent of voters approve of the job that President Bush is doing -- his lowest rating ever in the Post poll and an approval score that rivals the lowly showing by President Harry Truman in a 1952 Gallup poll.

* Obama's favorable rating are rising (!) while McCain's are faltering. Nearly two-thirds of voters (64 percent) view Obama favorably in the latest poll while 33 percent view him unfavorably. In a September Post poll, Obama's fav/unfav was at 58/36. Compare that to McCain's favorable ratings, which slipped from 59 percent in September to 52 percent now, and his unfavorable ratings, which rose from 36 percent last month to 45 percent now.

* Obama has substantial edges over McCain when voters are asked which candidate is better equipped to handle the issues of the day. That includes a 16-point edge on the economy and a 29-point margin on health care -- the two issues nearly six in ten voters cite as most critical in the fall election. McCain's lone advantage over Obama comes on the issue of terrorism. Forty-nine percent of Americans believe the Arizona senator is better equipped to handle that issue while 43 percent name Obama.

* Nearly seven in ten voters believe Obama is "mainly" addressing the issues while just 26 percent say he is attacking his opponent. McCain, on the other hand, is seen as "mainly" attacking his rival by six in ten voters while just 35 percent said he is focused on issues.

* Fifty-five percent of the voters believe Obama is a "safe" choice for president while 45 percent said he would be a "risky" choice. On McCain, the sample split right down the middle; 50 percent said he was a "safe" and 50 percent said he would be a "risky" pick for the White House.

That laundry list of data is a stark showcase of the tough odds that McCain faces as he seeks to turn the race around over the next 22 days.

Not only is every leading indicator pointing to this being a change election focused on economic uncertainties but the data in the Post/ABC poll also suggests that McCain's recent tactic of questioning Obama's judgment via his past associations with former Weather Underground member Bill Ayers is not working.

Given these results, it's not terribly surprising that McCain unveiled a new campaign stump speech this morning in Virginia in which he a) cast himself as the underdog b) offered a firm break with Bush and c) toned down the character attacks on Obama.

The most important line in McCain's new speech? "We cannot spend the next four years as we have spent much of the last eight: waiting for our luck to change," said McCain in an explicit criticism of the Bush approach to governance.

That new line -- designed to draw a broad line of demarcation between McCain and Bush -- comes even as the Post/ABC poll shows that a majority (51 percent) of voters believe that McCain would "mainly continue" taking the country in the same direction as Bush. Forty-six percent said McCain would lead the country in a "new" direction.

Unless McCain can convince voters -- sometime VERY soon -- that he is not the heir to the Bush legacy, this race, judging from the Post/ABC data, is darn near unwinnable for McCain.

It's a testament to the power of the McCain brand, in fact, that he has been able to keep the contest as close as it has been for the last few months given the absolutely disastrous national political environment.

But, without a drastic change in the political dynamics of the race (and that is ALWAYS possible), McCain's window of victory continues to shrink.

By Chris Cillizza  |  October 13, 2008; 3:25 PM ET
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FLIP-FLOPPIN' JOHNS

Forget John Kerry. John McCain now holds the Olympic record for the most flip-flops in a campaign.

1.Experience counts, then he picks Wasilly Sarah.
2.He is an honorable man and will run an honorable campaign. Then he accuses Obama of sexually corrupting young children.
3.He is for deregulation of banking before he is against it.
4.He is against off-shore drilling then he just can't get enough of it.
5.He hugs George Bush and then says he is nothing like him (except for 90% of the time.
6.He says he is different from Obama and then he steals his campaign slogan.(some of Obama's signs are missing, too.)
7.McCain claims the fundamentals of the economy are strong then says it's a severe crisis.
8.He say he has postponed his campaign and rushes off to Washington but he continues to run attack ads.
9.He looses his pit bull to stir up racial and ethnic hatred and then corrects a woman who calls Obama an Arab.
10.Lastly, and most importantly, He tells Dave Letterman he must cancel his appearance at the last moment to handle the financial crisis only to be caught red handed doing damage control after the Palin interview with Couric.
Hell hath no fury like a Letterman scorned.

John Kerry would have steamrolled if he acted like this.

Posted by: seemstome | October 15, 2008 10:33 AM | Report abuse

This race should have been over two months ago given the sad state of the economy for the last year. The million dollar question - can Obama close the deal with voters tomorrow night? McCain will come at him with every hate issue his feeble advisors can dream up. Obama has to crush the Mcain assault If he does he will capture 350+ electoral votes.

Posted by: prbob | October 14, 2008 8:18 PM | Report abuse

It is the economy stupid! Without a solid economic base, the United States of America is a vulnerable target from various religious fanatics like Al Queda, Russia, some tin-horn dictator from Venezuela, let alone China. Mr. McCain relies upon advice from Phil Gram who stated "We have become a nation of whiners" in an interview with the Washington Times. Phil Gram’s wife was on the Board of Directors of Enron, as well as their Audit Committee. They have nothing to whine about. I guess that Gram and McCain do not see a problem. When people lose their jobs, pensions and other retirement funds, as well as their homes, those “whiners” should just move into one of their other houses. It is time for a change!

Posted by: lynnlm | October 14, 2008 6:19 PM | Report abuse

WE ARE IN SERIOUS, SERIOUS TROUBLE AS A NATION WHEN THIS IS THE SENTIMENT:
__________________________________________
"Obama is the stinking scambag and muslim communist with the communist agenda for this great country.U brainless liberals just repeating this senseless Obama's BS Over and over again.Do we need the traitor muslim communist in OUR WH?"
__________________________________________

WHAT MAKES THOSE OF YOU IN THE USA WHO FEEL THIS WAY ANY DIFFERENT THAN THOSE IN FOREIGN COUNTRIES BEING CONTROLLED BY THEIR OWN POLITICAL SYSTEMS? THOSE COUNTRIES THAT TODAY, WE ARE STILL SENDING OUR TROOPS TO SUPPOSEDLY REBUILD AS WE HELP THEIR OPPRESSED DEFEND AGAINST RELIGIOUS AND POLITICAL TYRANNY?

DON'T YOU SEE THAT IF YOUR VIEWS ARE ALLOWED TO SPREAD THAT YOU WILL BE PART OF A MINDSET THAT CAN SOMEDAY CONTRIBUTE TO THE SAME TYPE OF SUPPRESSION IN YOUR OWN COUNTRY? THIS KIND OF BELIEF AND THEOLOGY IS CURRENTLY CREATING A DEEP HATRED THAT HAS NO PLACE IN LIVING A LIFE OF MEANING AND HOPE....AND YOU CALL THIS YOUR IDEAL FOR DEMOCRACY?

I refuse to become part of a pack-mentality that displays itself here in these blogs. The only thing being served by the proliferation and promulgation of bias and human injustice on these pages and many, many more targeted at people who challenge the moral right is the continuance of intolerance,hatred,racism and violence.

We are supposed to be banding together to find solutions to the serious problems at hand. The division that is so blatantly and proudly displayed here is frightening.

Zealots on both sides of the spectrum paralyze a nation. With that kind of zero-tolerance for anyone who suggests divergence of thought from the extreme positions of the right, we continue to guarantee that there is no chance for reasoning, no opportunity to improve the lives of all and no possibility to respect our differences as positive alternative avenues where new actions or ideologies can be explored.

For those of you who espouse such hateful attitudes, I would hate to have you live in my neighborhood let alone have a voice in my local government where these beliefs are more apt to take hold.

This is NOT the way to the patriotic America you talk about. WHO WILL YOU CHOOSE TO INTERVENE WHEN WE ARE IN OUR OWN INTERNAL WAR?

Posted by: rjs_donal | October 14, 2008 3:47 PM | Report abuse

Voters perceive Obama as favorable over the majority of issues.

In addition, a recent research study showed that, historically, Americans chose the candidate they perceived to do the better job in handling the issues.

Hard to believe after 8 years of Bush but apparently true. For this year, the study predicts a victory of Obama.

More information at the http://www.pollyvote.com under "PollyIssues".

Posted by: Anderl | October 14, 2008 3:42 PM | Report abuse

Voters perceive Obama as favorable over the majority of issues.

In addition, a recent research study showed that, historically, Americans chose the candidate they perceived to do the better job in handling the issues.

Hard to believe after 8 years of Bush but apparently true. For this year, the study predicts a victory of Obama.

More information at the http://www.pollyvote.com under "PollyIssues".

Posted by: Anderl | October 14, 2008 3:41 PM | Report abuse

To the racist GOP f*cks on this thread: Please go on projectile vomiting your infantile, racist bile in every direction. You're doing a GREAT job of turning moderates and independents not just against McCain, but against your entire party. And we'll need those votes to get our filibuster-proof majority in the Senate.

Thanks again for your help.

Posted by: PeterPrinciple | October 14, 2008 11:42 AM | Report abuse

McCain, for all political purposes, is Bush. Their policies are identical. They are the policies that have led to this financial debacle, and anyone who trusts this man with the keys to the economy is making a huge mistake.

Posted by: storyofthefifthpeach | October 14, 2008 4:43 AM | Report abuse

Dare we think that we may in fact be headed toward a Major Realigning Election? If Obama reaches 53% or more of the Popular Vote nationally, which is beginning to appear a real possibility, there exists the real probability that the margin will be magnified in the Electoral College, with Democrats winning 58-61 seats in the Senate, and expanding the House majority to 250+.

This kind of across-the-board Democratic sweep, particularly if accompanied by Obama continuing to emphasize the "Failed Conservative Economic Theory" and his broad-based Middle-Class Economic Rescue plan, will provide the opportunity to interpret this Election as a Mandate for Change, which will be important for governing in the early months of 2009 during the next Congress.

This sense of a Mandate will be further enhanced if Obama wins several states by larger margins than new Democratic Senators who are elected, which is likely in New Hampshire, Minnesota, Oregon, possibly in Colorado. While Obama may run slightly behind Hagan in North Carolina, the fact he has expended such effort there and is likely to spur a huge turnout among African-American and youth voters, especially on the larger college campuses in Raleigh and Chapel Hill, will undoubtedly contribute to her victory. In short, Obama will be able to argue to fellow Democrats that he won with coattails, that his candidacy contributed to strong deep-ticket successes among Democrats. He'll seek to build coalitions with conservative/moderate Southern House Democrats and what few moderate Republicans remain in both Senate and House. But in so doing, he will be able to argue that he has earned the opportunity to have much of his program enacted as a result of this mandate for change.

Posted by: OHIOCITIZEN | October 14, 2008 3:26 AM | Report abuse

I personally love the "Obama not vetted' line. Where were you during the Dem. primary season?

Obama was kitchen sinked by the national media on Wright, Experience, Race, Guns, Religion, NAFTA, foreign policy, Rezko, etc. For the past 18 months we've all looked at this stuff and it doesn't add up to much. In the mean time Obama won all the experience he needs.

Sorry you weren't paying attention.

Posted by: JohnQuimby | October 14, 2008 2:20 AM | Report abuse

I'm a little confused....
Let me see if I have this straight....."
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Obama - If you grow up in Hawaii , raised by your grandparents, you're "exotic, different."


Palin - Grow up in Alaska eating mooseburgers and shooting wolves from a helicopter, a quintessential American story.


Obama - If your name is Barack you're a radical, unpatriotic "Muslim".


Palin - Name your kids Willow , Trig and Track (or Trick or Treat), you're a maverick.


Obama - Graduate from Harvard law School and you are unstable.


Palin - Attend 5 different small colleges before graduating, you're well grounded.


Obama - If you spend 3 years as a brilliant community organizer, become the first black President of the Harvard Law Review, create a voter registration drive that registers 150,000 new voters, spend 12 years as a Constitutional Law professor, spend 8 years as a State Senator representing a districtwith over 750,000 people, become chairman of the stateSenate's Health and Human Services committee, spend 4 years in the United States Senate representing a state of 13 million people while sponsoring 131 bills and serving on the Foreign Affairs, Environment and Public Works and Veteran's Affairs committees, you don't have any real leadership experience.


Palin - If your total resume is: local sports reporter girl, 4 years on the city council and 6 years as the mayor of a town with less than 7,000 people, 20 months as the governor of a state with only 650,000 people, then you're qualified to become the country's second highest ranking executive and next in line behind a man (McCain) in his eighth decade.


Obama - If you have been married to the same woman for 19 years while raising 2 beautiful daughters, all within Protestant churches, you're not a real Christian.


McCain - If you cheated on your first wife with a rich heiress, and then left your disfigured wife and married the heiress the next month, you're a true Christian.


Obama - If you teach responsible, age appropriate sex education, including the proper use of birth control, you are eroding the fiber of society.


Palin - If, while governor, you staunchly advocate abstinence only, with no other option in sex education in your state's school system
while your unwed teen daughter ends up pregnant, you're very responsible.


Obama - If your wife is a Harvard graduate laywer who gave up a position in a prestigious law firm to work for the betterment of her inner city community,then gave that up to raise a family, your family's values don't represent America 's.


Palin - If you're husband is nicknamed "First Dude", with at least one DWI conviction and no college education, who didn't register to vote until age 25 and once was a member of a group that advocated the secession of Alaska from the USA, you and your family are just a picture of "small town family values"?!?!


HAHAHA!!!
.

OK, much clearer now...

Posted by: DrainYou | October 14, 2008 1:45 AM | Report abuse

BILL W3...you write like a high schooler and I bet you can't even pee straight much less write coherently. Wow, you Repiglicans are great SNL fodder.

However...I would be peeing on myself too-- if I was defending a candidate who consciously decided to demonize a man to the point that the true, racist nature of his attack has his supporters chanting 'kill him' and 'get him' at rallies. And it is backfiring in their faces. (You should all go hunting with Sarah; better yet Cheney...ha ha.)

What does that say about the base of the RepubliCANT party?

What does it say about you Repugnants who remain chauvinistic, xenophobic and scared of a diverse America?

In what unpopulated red state do you live in where everything scares you anyway?

Since I got your attention, another factoid 'Billy Boy'...LIBERAL is no longer a bad word. The more McPalin says it, the more Obama's poll numbers get a boost. We have bumper stickers...and TV shows...and we always laugh at you. I'll say it on the mountaintop...I am a LIBERAL and I hope we save 'my country tis of thee'--AMERICA!!!!

After this election, conservatives will be seen as angry, prone to mob violence, fossil fuel lovers who... attend fundamentalist churches, drives a gas guzzling SUV and probably has no health care. (...that's the sad part of this thread Billy.)

More to come....

Posted by: garfield4 | October 14, 2008 1:32 AM | Report abuse

Ever wonder what would happen if MTV hosted a presidential debate, well now you get to find out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=752cvy86qH8
http://www.watchdebate.com

Posted by: pastor123 | October 14, 2008 12:59 AM | Report abuse

Sarah palin is http://BushInASkirt.com

McCain should not have picked her.

Sad

Posted by: Frita | October 14, 2008 12:25 AM | Report abuse

"Texan2007" .... bed time little boi or i'll tell your mommy

Posted by: gatorsn09 | October 13, 2008 11:09 PM | Report abuse

McCain's political campaign is a joke. Carl Rove & George Bush have messed up big time. Poor McCain *wipes a tear from my eye* .. lmao

Posted by: gatorsn09 | October 13, 2008 11:06 PM | Report abuse

Unless Osama bin Laden is a Republican, McCain is out of luck.

Ex-FBI Analyst Predicts Attack After
Election

Tuesday, September 30, 2008

By: Ronald Kessler


Al-Qaida or affiliated groups probably will attack the United States in the months after the election to “welcome” the new president, says Frederick Stremmel, a former top FBI counterterrorism analyst.

Stremmel, who retired from the FBI a year ago after working the major counterterrorism cases for 25 years, tells Newsmax that al-Qaida would not attack before the election.
“They know our weaknesses and in some cases how to impact public opinion,” he says. “The best example is the timing of the Madrid bombings which occurred near election day in Spain. The Madrid attacks probably impacted the Spanish elections and ultimately led to diminished Spanish government support of U.S. foreign policy.”


Al-Qaida knows that an attack before the election would help elect Republican Sen. John McCain, Stremmel says. The terrorists would prefer Democratic Sen. Barrack Obama because they believe he would “swing the pendulum back” to more lenient anti-terrorism policies, Stremmel says.

“The months following the election or inauguration of the new administration is prime time for an attack,” he says. “They will want to impact the new administration and its policies. There is a history of Islamic terrorists wanting to make life miserable for successive administrations.”

That is why al-Qaida attacked the U.S. less than eight months after President Bush took office.

“I do not think the timing of the 9/11 attacks came out of the blue,” Stremmel says. “I have always thought that al-Qaida wanted to attack the new administration that followed Clinton’s. I think a goal of al-Qaida was to attack within a year of the new administration taking power.”

I hope Obama knows what he's walking into.

Posted by: seemstome | October 13, 2008 10:53 PM | Report abuse

These are simple vetting questions to those with minds made up to vote Obama.
Why didn't Obama know how many American States there are?
Why did he say he visited 57 states,when he was in Oregon with one left to go, and he couldn't go to Alaska or Hawaii?

Any kid in America knows how many states there are. Does it speak to his intellect level,or is he just an odd ....very odd American?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBSSLHc0Krk&feature=related


I also want to know why on ABC, Obama stated he was Muslim and had to be corrected, when asking why John Mc cain had not questioned him about his Muslim faith?

I would like to understand why Obama refused to put his hand on his heart to salute the flag?
Odd....even you know that is decorum.

People ask what kind of Church Palin attends, when it is a real question about Obama.

No one explains these odd things, and thinks that people will gloss over it.
No one is.

Why doesn't it dawn on people that Hillary supporters really did vet the opponent back in the day.....and therefore will not vote for Obama.

Posted by: dottydo | October 13, 2008 10:40 PM | Report abuse

The haunting refrain of T.S. Eliot on the human condition goes something like this: "we had the experience but missed the meaning." The events in Afghanistan, Iraq,and Pakistan provide stark examples of miscalculations in policy. The neoconservative movement found a host in George W. Bush for incubating, planting and implementing their ideas. President Cheney provided the not so invisible hand to eliminate any hazards along the way. We got deregulation without reforms and the use of military power as a tool to expand democracy around the globe. 9/11 tragically provided the basis for a war of choice that imperils the nation. Neoconservative intellectuals and an Imperial Presidency left the nation with a set for distinct challenges. Senator McCain remains blinded by the light. In the last eight years we as a nation lost our position as the leader for human rights in the world. Our military once stood as a defender of this nation and its allies is now strapped beyond capacity. A nation on the brink of bankruptcy will leave us hugging a lot of foreign investors and countries for a long time before we regain our footing. It will take years to extricate ourselves from Iraq and Afghanistan and both experiments may fail even with our best efforts and the help of other nations. Rigid dogmatism got us here. Pragmatic thought, emotional stability, and a mind free of clutter represent the minimum requirements. Reform is needed along with capital to cure the financial system; the truth about taxes needs to be told; and we need to put an end to the myth that low taxes solves anything. Time to sit down with the truth. Easier said than done. I will leave you with one other profound thought courtesy of Benjamin Disraeli: "the world is weary of Statesmen whom democracy has dowgraded into politicians".

Posted by: houtex1 | October 13, 2008 10:33 PM | Report abuse

McCain will lose overwhelmingly! I'm praying for a humiliating loss that will embarass the GOP and ruin the party. Hallelujah and praise God!

Posted by: Andrew15 | October 13, 2008 10:29 PM | Report abuse

feastorafamine,
One must learn rudiment English to become a US citizen.
The recent register and vote all one day is not really very honest is it?

Chnage only seems to be in the registration process, and who get registered to vote.
That Change is not one America needs.

Can you explain the reports that were on the news during the primary contests that Obama has backing from Islam?

Posted by: dottydo | October 13, 2008 10:22 PM | Report abuse

.
Dara2:
"Dara2, is it racist that over 90% of blacks will be voting for the black candidate? Dara2, you strike me as a real racist yourself."

I said *none* of the above. You are a typical Obama supporter, hard of understanding.

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Posted by: Billw3 | October 13, 2008 10:16 PM | Report abuse

.
Dara2
"As I told your twin nutjob brother Billw3"

Yeah, hide my name down in the text to someone else... You played the race card.

.

Posted by: Billw3 | October 13, 2008 10:12 PM | Report abuse

The problem for McCain is that he just can not quit. Today he slammed Congressman John Lewis for suggesting that the rhetoric heard at McCain rallies was hate speech. McCain is just mean spirited. ...............
http://thefiresidepost.com/2008/10/13/mccain-is-mean-spirited-slams-congressman-lewis/

Posted by: glclark4750 | October 13, 2008 10:03 PM | Report abuse

Another poll biased by liberal WaPo. WHO are you polling?

Posted by: Texan2007 | October 13, 2008 9:57 PM | Report abuse

Chris - you need to do some house cleaning. Your blog has been taken over by the nut fringe from the right and left. Most of these people are so incoherent, I often can't tell whose side they are on (and suspect they can't either). And they have no obvious relevance to what you have posted. Would be nice to filter that all out so one could read the relatively few comments relative to your article.

Posted by: wmw4 | October 13, 2008 9:55 PM | Report abuse

Oh yea...

To the last poster--"Spammer37":

Ya could compare this (favorably, I might add) to McCain's "Legacy" acceptance to the Naval Academy. I understand that he graduated in the bottom of his class.

I still, for the life of me, can't figure out why getting captured, tortured and broken by the enemy makes you a hero.

Can ya enlighten me a bit?

Posted by: JustinMcC | October 13, 2008 9:48 PM | Report abuse

VIGILANTO!

Please help me complete this joke by selecting the best answer. Thanks:

Question: "What's the difference between a KuKluxKlan rally and a McCain/Palin rally?"

Answer #1: Instead of a WARLOCK grandmaster, they have a WITCH grandmaster:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gN7hJDS26rI

Answer #2: Lipstick


Another question (not a joke): Can somebody tell me what the HE*L kinda church Palin belongs to?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gN7hJDS26rI

Posted by: JustinMcC | October 13, 2008 9:46 PM | Report abuse

I didn't take your hyperlink bait (cuz I'm bein' vigilant)...

But U R SAD, Blake...

Please help me complete this joke by selecting the best answer. Thanks:

Question: "What's the difference between a KuKluxKlan rally and a McCain/Palin rally?"

Answer #1: Instead of a WARLOCK grandmaster, they have a WITCH grandmaster:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gN7hJDS26rI

Answer #2: Lipstick


Another question (not a joke): Can somebody tell me what the HE*L kinda church Palin belongs to?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gN7hJDS26rI

Posted by: JustinMcC | October 13, 2008 9:40 PM | Report abuse


Who is attacking his opponent and who is attacking the issues?

--------> http://www.youpolls.com/details.asp?pid=3761

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Posted by: usadblake | October 13, 2008 9:39 PM | Report abuse


Who is attacking his opponent and who is attacking the issues?

--------> http://www.youpolls.com/details.asp?pid=3761

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Posted by: usadblake | October 13, 2008 9:37 PM | Report abuse

Hey, look at me, I'm being "VIGILANT"...

Please help me complete this joke by selecting the best answer. Thanks:

Question: "What's the difference between a KuKluxKlan rally and a McCain/Palin rally?"

Answer #1: Instead of a WARLOCK grandmaster, they have a WITCH grandmaster:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gN7hJDS26rI

Answer #2: Lipstick


Another question (not a joke): Can somebody tell me what the HE*L kinda church Palin belongs to?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gN7hJDS26rI

Posted by: JustinMcC | October 13, 2008 9:26 PM | Report abuse

JustinMcC,
I meant.....
Why? You have not spent time vetting Obama!!!

Posted by: dottydo | October 13, 2008 9:23 PM | Report abuse

These locations seem to have a lot of information to review.
Go ahead search it yourself and type in :

Obama exposed birth certificates
(the Atlas one is very revealing)

or type in:
Hype the Obama effect

or look at the utube one about hype by Native Americans.
I am not suprised about who you think should have the right to vote....
Why is acorn so afraid of an honest election?
Acorn registering people who do not speak english, or trying to forward an illegal only to push and pressure American law to see if they can break it, hardly seems like the right party to side with.
Fruad isn't healthy community organizing, no matter what MUM might have taught.
Why you have not spent time vetting Obama?


Posted by: dottydo | October 13, 2008 9:10 PM | Report abuse

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In case you didnt realise it doesnt matter if ACORN registered Barney Rubble to vote. That voter has to clear the Secretary General of his respective state and have a valid ID to vote. last time i checked there is no Bedrock, there is no B-Rubble and there is no ID enabling that "person" to vote. Now your GOP caging practices thats another story.
By the way you dont have to speak English to vote. You have to be a citizen period.
I LOVE all your suggested 'sources" for "vetting" Obama. I'll stick with UPI, AP, Newsweek, WAPO and the like. This "vetting" you speak of has been going on for two years. Been paying attention?

Posted by: feastorafamine | October 13, 2008 9:21 PM | Report abuse

37th and trash. Ignores questions. Keeps spamming. Typical republican.

Posted by: officermancuso | October 13, 2008 9:20 PM | Report abuse

Well 37th....

Ya could compare this (favorably, I might add) to McCain's "Legacy" acceptance to the Naval Academy. I understand that he graduated in the bottom of his class.

I still, for the life of me, can't figure out why getting captured, tortured and broken by the enemy makes you a hero.

Can ya enlighten me a bit?

Posted by: JustinMcC | October 13, 2008 9:18 PM | Report abuse

JustinMcC, you can't vote Republicans out of office fast enough to please me, and I highly recommend a reading of *A Confederacy of Dunces* as therapy for whatever might ail a person.

With that book, *Confederacy of Dunces*, it's very slow starting. You need to hang in for 100 pages, in order to enjoy the benefit of the next 200 pages. I'll say it again, the first 100 pages are slow going ;)

Posted by: officermancuso | October 13, 2008 9:17 PM | Report abuse

Now they need to do a poll that includes young people with cell phones. The media still thinks that young people aren't going to show up to vote. This election is gonna be the biggest landslide in American history.


_./'\._¸¸.•¤**¤•.¸.•¤**¤•..•¤. .
*•. .•* *Obama/Biden* o8!! Vote4 REAL Change!!
/.•*•.\ •¤**¤•.,.•¤**¤•.,.•¤**¤

Posted by: HemiHead66 | October 13, 2008 9:13 PM | Report abuse

Now, now OfficerMancuso (I love Confederacy of Dunces)...

That's a generalization, but largely true if we look at the W. administration for the last 8 years.

The republicans are putting IDIOTS into office and ruining OUR GREAT COUNTRY.

A true patriot would vote these destructive republicans right out of office. They have behaved like true nihilists. I fear for the world my children will grow up in.

Posted by: JustinMcC | October 13, 2008 9:11 PM | Report abuse

JustinMcC,

These locations seem to have a lot of information to review.
Go ahead search it yourself and type in :

Obama exposed birth certificates
(the Atlas one is very revealing)

or type in:
Hype the Obama effect

or look at the utube one about hype by Native Americans.
I am not suprised about who you think should have the right to vote....
Why is acorn so afraid of an honest election?
Acorn registering people who do not speak english, or trying to forward an illegal only to push and pressure American law to see if they can break it, hardly seems like the right party to side with.
Fruad isn't healthy community organizing, no matter what MUM might have taught.
Why you have not spent time vetting Obama?


Posted by: dottydo | October 13, 2008 9:10 PM | Report abuse

PALIN CAUGHT IN MAJOR PAYOLA DEAL

Contractor who Palin gave contract to for multi million dollar sports complex builds Palin a house worth $550,000.00 "FREE" as in "FREE" "AS FOR NOTHING"
No permits, no records of any kind. Thats the way they do things in Alaska. Anything goes up there in the frozen north.
In the words of Mel Brooks "It's good to be Governor"

Posted by: popasmoke | October 13, 2008 9:08 PM | Report abuse

Thank God after 2 previous Rovian smear campaigns the American people are wising up. And videos like this of the McCain/Palin hate rallies didn't help him -- it's great he took the mike from the lady claiming Obama is an "Arab" but he lets his rallies chant "Nobama, Nobama" and bring in signs saying "Obama bin Lyin" ... Sen. Obama stopped his crowd from even slight BOOING John McCain. Watch this to see the contrast:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wmAZUAMG8I

Posted by: Omyobama | October 13, 2008 9:05 PM | Report abuse

test

Posted by: mibrooks27 | October 13, 2008 9:02 PM | Report abuse

The brightest intellectual they ever had was William F. Buckley. At his best, he was fun to watch, a scintillating, articulate intellect. He opposed the war on drugs.

The website of his periodical is edited by Kathryn Jean Lopez, and in its pages Jonah Golberg is regarded as an intellectual.

Posted by: officermancuso | October 13, 2008 9:02 PM | Report abuse

Dara2 and Officermancuso: Thank you.

Us great minds think alike.

:-)

Posted by: toritto | October 13, 2008 8:57 PM | Report abuse

Well 37th....

Ya could compare this (favorably, I might add) to McCain's "Legacy" acceptance to the Naval Academy. I understand that he graduated in the bottom of his class.

I still, for the life of me, can't figure out why getting captured, tortured and broken by the enemy makes you a hero.

Can ya enlighten me a bit?

Posted by: JustinMcC | October 13, 2008 8:56 PM | Report abuse

McCain has made up my mind to vote against the Republican party this election.
I actually expect many more Republicans to take this stance, - “enough is enough” .

When America has to start worrying about the safety of a man’s life based on the McCain’s campaign inciting crowds, with ludicrous accusations that can only be targeted to one very narrow band of fringe voters, - something is very wrong., - and we as a people should speak up.
Also, - responsible news organizations should condemn the McCain Campaign for their actions.
These are not the types of smears that John McCain had thrown against him in the 2000 election.
These have far crossed a line in the sand when Sarah Palin and John McCain incite crowds which yell out things like Traitor, Treason, and Kill-Him. This is a Witch Hunt, and these are the very fringe levels of our society / that, - I’m sorry to say, are also the ‘very’ people that would be most capable of some atrocity such as what has been incited at these rallies. Why anyone would want to align themselves with the Republican party and what it’s current public perception is; due to John McCain and Sarah Palin’s negative campaigning, is beyond me.
I certainly don’t, - and I certainly wont.
And - If John McCain was the only name on the ballot, - I would take time off from work, -drive to my polling place and write another name in and cast my vote.

Posted by: Searchlight1968 | October 13, 2008 8:54 PM | Report abuse

Mr. Cillizza, this is a little offsubject, but you on your house line you continue to refer to MN-03 Republican candidate Eric Paulsen as a State Senator when he is actually a State Representative. In addition you said on AZ-01 that the fact that the cash flush DCCC has not spent anything here shows just how in the bag it is. The DCCC has actually spent nearly 1,000,000 dollars in AZ-01, including a quarter of a million in the last week alone.

Posted by: waalkwriter | October 13, 2008 8:53 PM | Report abuse

Ya, Papasmoke, I know....

Tacit approval of the race/intolerance card (Read: FEAR/HATE mongering) since they are now officially the "PARTY WITH NO IDEAS"

VERY toxic stuff for this country...

Posted by: JustinMcC | October 13, 2008 8:50 PM | Report abuse

Have you ever gone to one of those rallies? The security is very very tight. Those people out there with those signs "Traitor" "Terrorist" "Obama bin ladin" could have never got them in if Mccain and Palin did not condone it. Or worse, Mccain and Palin supplied them with the signs.


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People are losing their homes and their jobs and are watching their 401K slip away from them. But instead of addressing these problems, the McCain-Palin ticket is doing its best to distract Americans by provoking fear, anxiety and hatred. is it Country first? cries of "traitor," "liar," "terrorist" and (worst of all) "kill him!" that could be heard at recent rallies. it seems that he is leading bunch of racist, hatred and stupid people that are brain washed by foxnews, hannity show and his dirty campaign ads. is it a respectful campaign that he and his wife promised to run? Shame on you MCcain.MCcain/Palin dirty politics and turmoil market are only temporary things in this world. The power of evil MCCain will retreat from the burning rays of truth and righteousness. America will never surrender to enemy and rise to prosperity by Obama leadership and his right judgment and bipartisanship policy.

Posted by: ksarabi | October 13, 2008 8:25 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: popasmoke | October 13, 2008 8:45 PM | Report abuse

The new Wikipedia description of “Joe Six Pack” should read:
The new base of the old Republican party.
People who can be led to believe almost anything, or led to action, -as in ’a mob mentality’
based ‘not’ on factual evidence, but on innuendo’s and smears that they will never themselves
investigate or fact check.
The new secret weapon of the Republican party.
Also see- “Hockey Mom"

Posted by: Searchlight1968 | October 13, 2008 8:41 PM | Report abuse


Mccain now down to a 5% probability of winning.


http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/

Posted by: popasmoke | October 13, 2008 8:40 PM | Report abuse

dottydo:

Are you serious? I'm sorry sweetie but it's a hazard for people like you to be able to vote...Much like granting a firearms license or a drivers license to folks that are over 85 years of age...

You are being EASILY DUPED by the republican party if you are asking questions about Obama's COB...

Please, please, please... Do not get EASILY DUPED by the republican party this year....If you do, you are only being used to line the pockets of the greedy corporate types. Yes, Virginia, THEY LIE TO YOU to advance their own greedy agenda.

Posted by: JustinMcC | October 13, 2008 8:37 PM | Report abuse

Months ago John McCain said he wanted to run a respectable campaign.
What happened to that?
He has stood by as unruly GOP crowds hurl insults at Obama at his campaign rallies.
Sarah Palin stands on stages across our country and slings ridiculous accusations while the crowd yells things like “Kill-Him” and “Treason”.
Don’t tell me the McCain Campaign is unaware, - this has been their exact tactics with the words and accusations they are throwing out at their rallies; all of which as the ad’s say, - are approved by John McCain.
His correcting a few ignorant voters at a campaign rally this last weekend is too little too late.
After all, we all know John,- you and your Witch Hunting campaign planted those very seeds of ignorance.
What he has managed to do is incite the very fringe voters of his party to believe some of the most outrageous things we’ve ever heard coming from a presidential candidate.
What people will be asking long after McCain looses this election is -
Who the Hell is “Joe Six Pack” ?

I believe that what John McCain has done, in the last few weeks with his attacks on Obama; is to cause himself long lasting damage to his image and the level of our trust in him and his honesty.

Posted by: Searchlight1968 | October 13, 2008 8:37 PM | Report abuse

I watch and read.
It still looks like Palin has more experience than Obama has.

It still looks like evidence is out there on Obama's birth certificate.
I see no reason to vote for any guy who can't be the President simply because he doesn't meet the simple criteria of being US born.
To put America on hold to sort out the validity of any guy for scamming themselves into an election that they can't run in, doesn't put Country first.

Posted by: dottydo | October 13, 2008 8:26 PM | Report abuse

People are losing their homes and their jobs and are watching their 401K slip away from them. But instead of addressing these problems, the McCain-Palin ticket is doing its best to distract Americans by provoking fear, anxiety and hatred. is it Country first? cries of "traitor," "liar," "terrorist" and (worst of all) "kill him!" that could be heard at recent rallies. it seems that he is leading bunch of racist, hatred and stupid people that are brain washed by foxnews, hannity show and his dirty campaign ads. is it a respectful campaign that he and his wife promised to run? Shame on you MCcain.MCcain/Palin dirty politics and turmoil market are only temporary things in this world. The power of evil MCCain will retreat from the burning rays of truth and righteousness. America will never surrender to enemy and rise to prosperity by Obama leadership and his right judgment and bipartisanship policy.

Posted by: ksarabi | October 13, 2008 8:25 PM | Report abuse

No more GOP criminals in the white house please.

McSame changes gears more often than a Fiat 500 and only half as trustworthy.

Falin is just a disgrace.

Posted by: hdtex1 | October 13, 2008 8:25 PM | Report abuse

Toritto, may you enjoy many stone crabs, and catch a tarpon on a fly. You're always a pleasure to read.

Posted by: officermancuso | October 13, 2008 8:23 PM | Report abuse

Toritto, LOVED you post!! You hit the mark...

Posted by: Dara2 | October 13, 2008 8:22 PM | Report abuse

To add to that...

I don't think there's anything the McCain camp would want more than for the Obama camp to be the ones that call racism...

McCain/Palin would love to play this card (and through their tacit approval are in fact) but only if they can deny playing it and take the moral high-ground while doing it.

Leave it alone.

Posted by: JustinMcC | October 13, 2008 8:15 PM | Report abuse

I'm an old retired guy who doesn’t have to work and I can honestly say it won't matter to me in the long run who wins this election. At my age any election I participate in could be my last. I do believe however that the current administration has been the worst in my lifetime (born during FDR). I don't think anyone can rationally deny that. We have had 8 years of corruption, unnecessary war and shredding of the Constitution. Over the last month we have watched with our own eyes the slow motion impoverishment of America. Now this same party wants us to give them 4 more years so that John the "maverick" can fix Washington. ...like I was born yesterday.

If "small town working class" rust-belt voters in Ohio, Pa., Michigan and Indiana help re-elect the GOP then I for one don't want to hear anymore whining from them about their disappearing jobs and livelihoods, the high cost of college and gas, lack of health care etc. Let Johnnie' and Sarah’s "patriotism" put food on your table. Go flip burghers!

Screw 'ya. Cling to your guns and religion and “small town values”. Pray to Jesus when you go hunting for a meal. Stay with that church and keep your weapon. You will need both the soup kitchen and the rifle. You will deserve what you get. Your kids can go to community college if you can afford it and you can forget about ever retiring. You’re probably out of work anyway.

I got mine already. I live comfortably in the sunny South on a golf course in a paid off house, got my steady income, my "socialist" medicare and prescription drug coverage that you younger people wish you had but will never get under the Republicans. I sent my girls to college and they are successfully out on their own. The world won't run out of gas before I go and the planet won't get too hot.

A McCain election ain't gonna hurt me.

As Johnny Carson used to say - I upped my lifestyle - up yours!

I’m an old man. Trust me on this. God helps those who help themselves - if you're in deep doodoo economically and you vote Republican for their "values", you deserve it.

Posted by: toritto | October 13, 2008 8:15 PM | Report abuse

Dara2, KMichaels,

There might be a few racists at some of those rallies. But the whole purpose of these meetings is to rally the supporters. There will always be "nut cases" whether Republican or Democrat. But one has to keep in mind, people are scared. They are losing their jobs, homes, retirement accounts, savings, and health care. If they can direct their fear at someone, anyone, then the kind of responses seen at the McCain rallies. I have no doubt those people any other time are very nice and are people you wouldn't mind knowing. But this isn't a "normal" time and fear is winning.

Posted by: Repub | October 13, 2008 8:10 PM | Report abuse

lucy2008 wrote, "It has never been my country right or wrong. That is bunk. We always have been a people who distrust our government. It is healthy to distrust. When our country goes to war in a war of choice, it is our "check" as patriots and citizens to vote against this bungling president and to "speak" out that this is a disaster, immoral and a financial and deadly calamity. It is our right of citizens and patriots and our duty to express this "vote" and "speak"."

Thank you, Lucy, for a thoughtful and inspirational post. Sometimes reading the comment boxes is depressing. And then a person comes across material like yours. Be well.

Posted by: officermancuso | October 13, 2008 8:10 PM | Report abuse

KMichaels:

What is going on here, based on my intuition and IMHO, is that there are some (perhaps less than half) of the vocal McCain supporters that are concerned about Socialism. However, it is my strong suspicion, that "Socialism" with the other half is becoming a code word for racist sentiment.

Of course the McCain/Palin ticket is eager (read: desperate) to play this card/ tacitly allow this situation to exist since they put politics and their election ahead of the stability of this country. This is just "base" Rovian politics of cynicism here...

Of course, TRUE AMERICANS know that racism (both sides of the equation) is based on FEAR and REAL MEN understand this and reject racism.

Just my thoughts, my friend.

Posted by: JustinMcC | October 13, 2008 8:10 PM | Report abuse

This blog has so many silly people.

I have my own small biotech business. I voted for Senators Obama and Biden because they had the best small business policies. I'm not paying more taxes and there will be a lot of new investment in biotech. Obama is getting all kinds of people standing up for him because of startup tech, small businesses and global competitiveness. Cool stuff.

Silly people who talk about socialism are just using words as tags to "brand" it is a Rovian method. Just avoid these Rovian trolls who babble and do not know what they are babbling.

America has always had government in commerce. Most of what the government does in terms of activity is backing commerce by running infrastructure and policing with rules, protection, patents, and trade improvement. The nutty Rovians tell you that government is all about taking things away from the little guy and the laborors. Well, there truth to that because most government work benefits commerce and the wealthy. That is the gotcha.

Fight for your share of opportunities in our country and have government represent YOU, the middle class. Don't be dumb and dummer and be bamboozled. Represent yourself. That is what Senators Obama and Biden are saying. Stand up and take it back! Stand up and throw the bums out! Stand up and throw the robber barons out! It is our government, too.

Posted by: lucy2008 | October 13, 2008 8:10 PM | Report abuse

KMichaels posted:

Your signs could have been posted by anyone and they do not show a pattern of behavior.

Lots of people scream lots of things at rallies, bozo. Again, they do not show a pattern of behavior.
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Hey look, I've got right wing wacko #2 all excited now!!

1. Yes, I manufactured those pictures, along with the Washington Post. Perhaps you were foaming at the mouth so much you didn't bother to look at the source you idiot! Unlike you wackos, I don't get my material from 'reliable' sources like the American Thinker!!

2. Yes, people scream things at political rallies, but 'terrorist', 'kill him', and 'traitor' are usually not on the list of things normal people scream. So pull your head out of your right wing @@@ you moron and for once admit the truth. These people are over the top crazy, unless you're one of them, which seems quite likely.

I'm plain fed up with you idiotic right wingers. Logic/reason is meaningless to you.

As I told your twin nutjob brother Billw3, I'm through wasting my time with you wackos. Go to a Palin rally and see if you can find a black sound man to scream at. Maybe that's make you feel better.

I wish I could see you two on election night! Now that will be a funny sight!!


Posted by: Dara2 | October 13, 2008 8:10 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: DDAWD | October 13, 2008 8:08 PM | Report abuse

New scandal for Palin. Contractor who Palin hired to build multi million dollar sports complex in Alaska, built Palins house for free?

Posted by: popasmoke | October 13, 2008 8:05 PM | Report abuse

Malis: The rout of the Republicans in this election (fi it happens) might be the best thing that could happen.

It would allow a rebuilding of a fiscally conservative socially moderate coalition void of excessive influence from evangelicals or neo-fascists.

Unfortunately it could take the better part of 20 years to accomplish.

The country needs a strong GOP. If it is vanquished I for one hope it rises from the ashes.

Posted by: toritto | October 13, 2008 8:04 PM | Report abuse

"Do republicans not like Obama because of his color or his extreme leftist marxist socialist views?"

Well, its kind of annoying given Obama's very conservative lean over the past several years.

Posted by: DDAWD | October 13, 2008 8:04 PM | Report abuse

Here are two things that scare me.

1. Sarah Palin becoming President and sitting across the conference table from the leader of any country larger than San Marino.

2. The neo-cons now in charge of John McCain becoming desperate enough to actually initiate some sort of threat to national security, real or false, in order to swing the polls McCain's way.

If number 2 happens, remember, you read it here first.

Posted by: thelastmoderate | October 13, 2008 8:02 PM | Report abuse

Do republicans not like Obama because of his color or his extreme leftist marxist socialist views?

Worst comments were made about Kerry and last time I checked, he was very white.

And Obama's history is even more leftist.

Sorry, not racial, its political.

And now it has come out that Obama officially belonged to and worked with the Socialist Party of Chicago, DSA NP.

Not a very good track record.

Posted by: KMichaels | October 13, 2008 7:59 PM | Report abuse

Let me try to figure out what "socialist" means to a McCain supporter who is attacking Obama.

It can't mean "Government taking over business", because Bush and Paulsen are doing that now.

It can't mean, "government taxing the poor and giving to the rich", because Bush and Paulsen are doing that now.

Mind you, I support bailing the fat cats. I just prefer that we call it by it's name: Welfare for the rich.

So what do McCain supporters mean, when they call Obama a socialist?

I guess it's got to do with the idea that before he'd bail out folks on Wall Street who took bets on ridiculous odds, he'd try to finish what Bill Clinton tried to start, and give this nation national health care.

How terrible can that be? No US citizen can be denied medical treatment for any condition due to lack of money?

That really upsets some folks, though. That brings out the "socialist" word.

You can bail out banks till the cows come home, those folks just sleep in. Provide medical care to one uninsured worker, they wake up, and bellow, "socialism!!"

Posted by: officermancuso | October 13, 2008 7:58 PM | Report abuse

beaversrus, ol' King of Zouk (or as I fondly refer to him, Kouk), has been hanging around The Fix for years, always with the same supreme self-confidence, and undisputed record of never once accurately predicting an electoral contest.

Back in 2006, he was a stenographer for Karl Rove, repeating until election day the prediction that all the polls were wrong and the Rs would retake the Senate and pick up seats in the House. I remember his statement that if he was wrong he’s humbly eat crow and politely apologize to everyone else. To his credit, he was back online the next day, and did. It was a good three weeks until he was back, now insulting Hillary Clinton and pushing Rudy Giuliani.

He was then famous for insulting McCain and stating there was no doubt Giuliani would be the next President. He also stayed in full Clinton insult mode as long as she was leading, then suddenly switched to a Hillary supporter and directing his insults to Obama. He stuck with Giuliani until Florida, than gave up on the R primary and switched full time to anti-Obama talking points parroted from talk radio, anonymous emails, and fringe websites (by the way, wouldn’t it save time if they just numbered them? Then Kouk could just write “NObama, TP#4! #6! And double #12!!” without forcing everyone to again wade through his repetitive dreck).

So Kouk, are you going to make the same promise you made in October 2006? I look forward to the three weeks of quiet and relative sanity.

As I've said here before, I thought all three final candidates had the potential to be decent Presidents but, as a middle-aged, retired military, decidedly non-cultish white guy, I’ve favored Obama ever since it became obvious Joe Biden wouldn't be an option (Biden/Obama was my early favored ticket). Although his positions are certainly more liberal than mine, my judgment is that Obama has a rational pragmatism (the ability to change his mind based on new information) that would allow him to consider other points of view, and an innate intelligence and moral core that would guide sound decisions.

So everyone, don’t be satisfied with what you're told...please make up your mind based not on someone else's distortions, but on YOUR OWN understanding of the ability, intelligence, knowledge, views, positions, temperament, judgment, and moral strength of the candidates.

Posted by: malis | October 13, 2008 7:57 PM | Report abuse

Toritto, good post and that was yes, a time of giants. My family were from the party of Lincoln (when it was Lincoln's party), too.

The problem is the Republican party as it is today is not the party of civil rights or of Lincoln. This party has morphed and the name is all that is left. It is now the American Nationalist Party filled with evangelicals, neoconservatists, and the rich elite. It is rather homogeneously in a rather scary way.

For democracy to work and our system that is mostly a two party system, we need a healthy and vibrant Republican party. I am a democrat and the Democratic party has reinvented itself, too. It still needs more changes for the 21st century, but it is well along that way. The Republican party needs to be reborn into something else or another party will be formed to fill the vacuum and take it's place. The current Republicans keep side stepping, goose stepping right. Bipartisonship in the Bush years was so difficult because the "liberal" and "moderate" Republicans were dropping out of the Senate and the House. This made it difficult to relate and polarized people into idealogues.

Yes, a strong and healthy Republican party is needed. A party with giants. A party with financial conservativism and social ???

Posted by: lucy2008 | October 13, 2008 7:57 PM | Report abuse

Racist Dara2 screams:

"Are you going to tell me those signs in the links I sent, and those people screaming at McLame/bimbo rallies are not racist?"

Your signs could have been posted by anyone and they do not show a pattern of behavior.

Lots of people scream lots of things at rallies, bozo. Again, they do not show a pattern of behavior.

Posted by: KMichaels | October 13, 2008 7:54 PM | Report abuse

Here is another non-politically biased joke:

Change We Need = Quarters, dimes, nickels.

I'm working on my jokes here...

Posted by: JustinMcC | October 13, 2008 7:54 PM | Report abuse

Obama has repeatedly sided with, done work with and was friends with many people that openly hate America.

McCain has not.

Posted by: KMichaels | October 13, 2008 7:19 PM | Report abuse
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Reply:

What do you know of Mccains past? Do you know that information he provided to his captors when he was a POW resulted in the shooting down of three American planes? Mccain went to tremendous lengths to keep all his records secret when he was a POW. He fought at the hearings in the early 90's do not let any records from viet nam be made public. The man is I am sorry to say, a traitor. You know what Mccain says when he is confronted with such accusations? He says things like it was a long time ago and I didn't live in the past. I have heard him say it a dozen times. Be sure to watch the youtube clip. John Mccain is not the man you think he is.

JOHN MCCAIN, TRAITOR TO HIS COUNTRY, COLLABORATOR WITH THE ENEMY, MILITARY DISGRACE.
Ted Sampley, a Vietnam Veteran and former Green Beret, issued a CHALLENGE to John McCain "If you can show us that the information presented in our mailer is untruthful . . . we will Stand Down" This CHALLENGE was issued during an interview with INSIDE EDITION on January 17, 2008.
John, family members of Vietnam POW/MIA(s) have been waiting for more then 14 years for you to have the courage to face them eye to eye in front of the American Public - Here is your opportunity for some "STRAIGHT TALK." Stop hiding behind your fabricated "War Hero" persona. You know we can prove your collaborations with declassified government documents . . . It is time for the American people to get to know the REAL John McCain - the John McCain that the POW/MIA families witnessed during the 1991-93 US Senate Select Committee on POW/MIA Affairs .
Bring It On John! HERE IS OUR NUMBER 252-527-0442
*********** ************* ************** *********** ***********
Activists accused McCain of stonewalling the release of POW records because they contained evidence he had collaborated with the North Vietnamese.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoseBNetlEk

Posted by: popasmoke | October 13, 2008 7:51 PM | Report abuse

OK, OK, OK.....I'm trying to figure out witch answer is best here...Please help me out to improve my jokes...


Question: "What's the difference between a KuKluxKlan rally and a McCain/Palin rally?"

Answer #1: Instead of a WARLOCK grandmaster, they have a WITCH grandmaster:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gN7hJDS26rI

Answer #2: Lipstick


Another question (not a joke): Can somebody tell me what the HE*L kinda church Palin belongs to?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gN7hJDS26rI

Posted by: JustinMcC | October 13, 2008 7:51 PM | Report abuse

Billw3 posted:

Dara2, is it racist that over 90% of blacks will be voting for the black candidate?

Dara2, you strike me as a real racist yourself.

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Your logic is so absurd that there's no sense in wasting time responding, but for the record, NO, it's not racist for blacks to be excited about one of their own becoming president. Just like it's not 'sexist' for many women to get excited about Palin. When you've been denied your share unfairly for a long time, it's not 'racist' or 'sexist' to want it real bad.

No doubt there are plenty of black people who have a problem with all whites, and that's not right, but this is a TOTALLY different situation and shouldn't even be compared.

Regarding your accusation of me being a racist, I guess that makes me a self-hating white guy!

You on the other hand, strike me as a typical right wing white guy with a HUGE chip on his shoulder.

Are you going to tell me those signs in the links I sent, and those people screaming at McLame/bimbo rallies are not racist? Do you see the same thing happening at Obama rallies, going the other way? I can go on forever...

As I said, feel free to respond, but I'm through with this stupid thread...

Posted by: Dara2 | October 13, 2008 7:50 PM | Report abuse

What does it mean to "love" American? The Republican rhetoric sounds down right nationalistic and neoconservative. This means my country right or wrong. My country is right because right makes right and right is right because right is right is right. Whatever that means.

Our founding fathers who created the constitution and discussed the implications in the Federalists Papers were a people who rebelled against authority. What they created was a document that showed great distrust of government- but even more, a great understanding that men and especially ambitious men are not angels. This understanding of the weaknesses of man and yet their incredible capability to transcend, the founding fathers created a document of "checks" and "balances" to deal with local, state and federal. To have things represented in a provincial way by the house and a long, strategic way by the Senate. To have a presidency for fast appeal and leadership. AND to have a citizenry- hopefully educated and enlightened that would practice their "check" and VOTE and "speak".
It has never been my country right or wrong. That is bunk. We always have been a people who distrust our government. It is healthy to distrust. When our country goes to war in a war of choice, it is our "check" as patriots and citizens to vote against this bungling president and to "speak" out that this is a disaster, immoral and a financial and deadly calamity. It is our right of citizens and patriots and our duty to express this "vote" and "speak".

So this is what I did yesterday, I "voted" for Senator Obama and against the "Bush Republicans". I have been speaking out, but now its a vote. And yes in this case my country was wrong to go to war and I'm a patriot to say so.

Posted by: lucy2008 | October 13, 2008 7:48 PM | Report abuse

KMichaels,
Why is it racist for 95% of Blacks to support Obama? In 2004 85% of Blacks supported Kerry, in 2000 90% of Blacks supported Gore, 1996 92% of Blacks supported Clinton. Does that mean that Evangelicals whose support for McCain is in the high 80s, are racist too? As for as the Stern "interviews,"...if you ask low info voters questions on policy, one will get low info answers. The lady in the Red sweater at the McCain rally that has been playing on all the talking head programs is a prime example. I'm certain if one were to giver her Obama's policies and say they were McCain's she would agree with them without thinking.

Posted by: Repub | October 13, 2008 7:48 PM | Report abuse

Once upon a time there were giants in the GOP:
"In poor health, drained from working fourteen, fifteen, and sixteen-hour days, Senator Everett Dirksen of Illinois spoke quietly. Twice he gulped pills handed him by a Senate page. In his massive left hand, he held a 12-page speech he had typed the night before on Senate stationery .
"I have had but one purpose," Dirksen intoned, "and that was the enactment of a good, workable, equitable, practical bill having due regard for the progress made in the civil rights field at the state and local level."
He warned his colleagues that "we dare not temporize with the issue which is before us. It is essentially moral in character. It must be resolved. It will not go away. It's time has come." He quoted Victor Hugo, the historian and French philosopher who, on the night he died, entered these words in his diary: "stronger than all the armies is an idea whose time has come."
Dirksen declared, "The time has come for equality of opportunity in sharing of government, in education, and in employment. It must not be stayed or denied. It is here!" His last words were these: "I appeal to all Senators. We are confronted with a moral issue. Today let us not be found wanting in whatever it takes by way of moral and spiritual substance to face up to the issue and to vote cloture."
Never in history had the Senate been able to muster enough votes to cut off a filibuster on a civil rights bill. And only once in the thirty-seven years since 1927 had it agreed to cloture for any measure. This filibuster had gone on for 534 hours. The clerk proceeded to call the roll at 11:00 a.m. At 11:15 a.m., Republican Senator John Williams of Delaware replied "aye" to the question. It was the 67th vote; cloture had passed by a vote of 71 to 29. The final count showed 44 Democrats and 27 Republicans voting for cloture with 23 Democrats - 20 from the South -- and only 6 Republicans opposed.”
Everett Dirksen had single handedly delivered the Republican votes necessary to pass Lyndon Johnson's civil rights bill.
...and so the Civil Rights Act came to the floor for a vote and passed.
....truly Country before Party.
Where are those GOP giants today??
:-(

Posted by: toritto | October 13, 2008 7:47 PM | Report abuse

emichaels: There you go again. How about framing the debate as progressives and cons?

Progressives were for moving foward on civil rights. Cons were for not approving civil rights legislation.

Example: Republican Everett Dirksen singlehandedly delivered the votes needed to pass Lyndon Johnson's Civil Rights bill.

Dirksen was a moderate.

Goldwater voted against the legislation.

So did Senator Byrd of W. Virginia and 20 Southern Democrats.

The South began voting Republican as soon as the Civil Rights bill was signed by a Democratic President.

Been that way ever since.

Posted by: toritto | October 13, 2008 7:45 PM | Report abuse

Unlike George W. Bush, John McCain or Sarah Palin, Barack Obama has shown that a person raised within the middle class in the USA can stand as an equal with the most intelligent and principled politicians of Europe.

Isn't it about time that we could say that, in this nation of 300 million souls?

Most Republicans who post on these boards are finding the water rising above their waders, are desperate and unscrupulous. They post three times as often and twice as vociferously as they go beneath the waves for the second time.

I say *most* Republicans. I remember Dwight Eisenhower, Everett Dirksen , Charles Percy, John Heinz, Wayne Morse.

I remember Vice President Nelson Rockefeller. I remember William Scranton. I remember George Romney.

Good men, all.

Posted by: officermancuso | October 13, 2008 7:44 PM | Report abuse

http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/publications/id.1445/pub_detail.asp

Information explosive enough to be a game changer!

Posted by: edeldoug1 | October 13, 2008 7:43 PM | Report abuse

* ONLY ZOGBY HAS AN EXCELLENT TRACK RECORD OF PREDICTING GENERAL ELECTION. OTOH, Washington Post is not expert at doing surveys, they are newspaper people. So, I don't know what to think of their results.

* BTW, obviously this economic problem will not go away before the election, so Rep. better find a way to make economy their issue. Suggestions: 1) Use Mitt Romney, Ms. Firona, and Mike Huckabee on the campaign trail and on TV; 2) Get team of experts on economy to study this problem, advise and educate Sen. McCain for rest of election, and figure out a winning strategy on economy.

Posted by: lazerboy | October 13, 2008 7:42 PM | Report abuse

NEW PARTY for babbling brooks, listed themselves as SOCIALISTS. They were openly against capitalism. The fact that a socialist party also supported big unions is yet another piece of evidence that they did typically SOCIALISTIC things, since big unions are one key part of SOCIALISM.

As to whether union members might not like being called SOCIALISTS is besides the point. SOCIALISTS always like big unions. But that does not mean that all union members are socialists.

However NEW PARTY was definitely SOCIALIST since that is how they referred to themselves and listed themselves.

Posted by: KMichaels | October 13, 2008 7:42 PM | Report abuse

May be time say a Hail Mary instead of throwing one.
McCain should listen to Bill Kristol and start emulating the guy who's beating him: Be more civil, stick to the issues, and offer the American people hope.
Staying with Steve Schmidt's Talk Radio strategy of avoiding the issues and demonizing Obama is destroying the Republican Party.

Posted by: fougasseu | October 13, 2008 7:41 PM | Report abuse

maverick == erratic==say anything, do anything===change it again tomorrow===ERRATIC!!!----It's time to elect Barack Obama and Joe Biden in '08 ---Let's get 'er done!!

Posted by: benighse | October 13, 2008 7:41 PM | Report abuse

McCain's "OL' GEEZER EXPRESS" has run out of straight-talk and the wheels are falling off:

MCCAIN HAS AN ABUSIVE TEMPER AND PALIN ABUSES POWER.

PALIN IS BUSTED. SHE IS CONFIRMED AS HAVING ABUSED PERSONAL POWER IN HER GOVERNOR'S OFFICE. VIOLATED ETHICS. PERIOD. WHAT PART OF THIS DON'T PEOPLE UNDERSTAND?

The finding of Palin's guilt in abuse of executive power speaks worlds about John McCain's lack of judgment. But of course he admitted he had only met her personally ONE TIME before he selected her--was it with the other Joe Six-Pack's at a bar, and he decided to take her with him? Who knows, there are not even any pictures of him meeting with her before he selected the LUV GUV!

She's no longer a pitbull, but has to go back to being a sleddog ---....As the ol' song says: You go North to Alaska, you go North perhaps you know, ....way up North....North to Alaska.... -- RIGHT NOW PLEASE!

No longer a pitbull, but looking like a weasel--a little ol' mavericky weasel-you betcha!

It'll be painless when we become Mccainless and palinless...

Let's put Obama and Biden to work for all America, and let's do it now!!


Posted by: benighse | October 13, 2008 7:40 PM | Report abuse

The persona of the "OLD ANGRY ERRATIC McCAIN" known locally as MR. GRUMPY is hardly a person worthy of voting for when IT'S THE ECONOMY and he doesn't have a clue----And JUDGMENT???? To select the unethical Palin??? NO THANKS====DEMOCRATS, INDEPENDENTS AND REPUBLICANS IN MY FAMILY ARE ALL VOTING FOR OBAMA AND BIDEN THIS TIME AROUND!!!

Posted by: benighse | October 13, 2008 7:39 PM | Report abuse

A little history of racism in the USA.

1) Lincoln was a republican.
2) Anti-slavery party was republican.
3) MLK was a republican.
4) Civil rights laws were supported by 80% republicans and 65% democrats.
5) KKK was started by five prominent DEMOCRATS.
6) KKK at its peak had 15% of the US adult voters support. 90% of them were white protestant DEMOCRATS.
7) KKK claimed that its biggest enemy and the hardest to control would be white republicans because they had a habit of treating blacks with respect and dignity.
8) Only KKK member to reach the US Senate did so as a DEMOCRAT.
9) Current party that thinks that blacks are too stupid to take care of themselves is the DEMOCRATS.

Posted by: KMichaels | October 13, 2008 7:37 PM | Report abuse

DDAWD - Yes, Obama was born in Hawaii and had an American mother, so he is a U.S. ctizen. John McCain was born in the Panama Canal Zone with an active duty naval oficer as a father and a U.S. citizen as a mother. He is also a U.S. citizen. And, incidently, his birth certificate was misplaced/lost and a legal one wasn't issued until several years after his families return to the U.S. None of this, in either case, means jack! Both men are U.S. citizens, both by birth, and by parental status.

And, Kathryn, unless you quit yammerng about the New Party being "socialist", I'm going to call your local Teamster and Carpenter Unions, who will see to it that you get a remedial class in reading! THOSE unions were founding members of the New Party and entiher would take kindly to being called "socialists".

Posted by: mibrooks27 | October 13, 2008 7:36 PM | Report abuse

McCain got unlucky with the downturn in the economy just like Obama might have gotten unlucky with a crisis in the Middle East, say Iran attacking Israel or something.

Other than that, McCain/Palin have made their bed with negative attacks "Obama pals around with terrorists", and have likened themselves to Bush by playing out of the Rove playbook - play to the base and create fear about their opponent. Not too smart when people are nervous about the economy, losing their retirements, etc.

I hope the polls are right, I hope Obama/Biden gets their chance, they deserve it.

Mike L
Austin, Tx.

Posted by: milow369 | October 13, 2008 7:36 PM | Report abuse

The persona of the "OLD ANGRY ERRATIC McCAIN" known locally as MR. GRUMPY is hardly a person worthy of voting for when IT'S THE ECONOMY and he doesn't have a clue----And JUDGMENT???? To select the unethical Palin??? NO THANKS====DEMOCRATS, INDEPENDENTS AND REPUBLICANS IN MY FAMILY ARE ALL VOTING FOR OBAMA AND BIDEN THIS TIME AROUND!!!

Posted by: benighse | October 13, 2008 7:35 PM | Report abuse

toritto, I'll bet (though I can't prove) that if you said "Gramcsci", he'd say "Antonio". Because he's a literate man whose been exposed to people with many different beliefs. My kinda guy.

Posted by: officermancuso | October 13, 2008 7:34 PM | Report abuse

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"is it racist that over 90% of blacks will be voting for the black candidate?"

Gallup a few days ago:
White - Obama 37% McCain 52%
Black - Obama 93% McCain 2%


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Posted by: Billw3 | October 13, 2008 7:34 PM | Report abuse

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toritto:
"Bill Ayers killed no one"

Did he and/or the "weathermen" try to?


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Posted by: Billw3 | October 13, 2008 7:32 PM | Report abuse

Dara2, is it racist that over 90% of blacks will be voting for the black candidate?

Is it racist that the vast majority of people that bring up racism the most are often the ones with a history of anti-white racism, such as Wright, Jackson, Farrakan, all friends of Obama?

Is it racist to point out that Obama was in tight with a given negative character if that character happens to be black? But if they are white then there is no racism?

Dara2, you strike me as a real racist yourself.

Howard Stern sent a reporter to harlem to see who they would be voting for and why. They all said Obama, not unpredictably. But the Stern reporter played a trick on them and listed McCains policies as Obama's. Suddenly all of these people were for the McCain policies, since they were listed under the name of Obama. Hey, its not racism, its about policies.

Some even were ok with Obama choosing Palin as his VP. Now there are some really informed people for you.

But remember, it is not about race, it is strictly about policies.

Posted by: KMichaels | October 13, 2008 7:32 PM | Report abuse


Obama has repeatedly sided with, done work with and was friends with many people that openly hate America.

McCain has not.

Posted by: KMichaels | October 13, 2008 7:19 PM | Report abuse
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Reply:

What do you know of Mccains past? Do you know that information he provided to his captors when he was a POW resulted in the shooting down of three American planes? Mccain went to tremendous lengths to keep all his records secret when he was a POW. He fought at the hearings in the early 90's do not let any records from viet nam be made public. The man is I am sorry to say, a traitor. You know what Mccain says when he is confronted with such accusations? He says things like it was a long time ago and I didn't live in the past. I have heard him say it a dozen times. Be sure to watch the youtube clip. John Mccain is not the man you think he is.

JOHN MCCAIN, TRAITOR TO HIS COUNTRY, COLLABORATOR WITH THE ENEMY, MILITARY DISGRACE.
Ted Sampley, a Vietnam Veteran and former Green Beret, issued a CHALLENGE to John McCain "If you can show us that the information presented in our mailer is untruthful . . . we will Stand Down" This CHALLENGE was issued during an interview with INSIDE EDITION on January 17, 2008.
John, family members of Vietnam POW/MIA(s) have been waiting for more then 14 years for you to have the courage to face them eye to eye in front of the American Public - Here is your opportunity for some "STRAIGHT TALK." Stop hiding behind your fabricated "War Hero" persona. You know we can prove your collaborations with declassified government documents . . . It is time for the American people to get to know the REAL John McCain - the John McCain that the POW/MIA families witnessed during the 1991-93 US Senate Select Committee on POW/MIA Affairs .
Bring It On John! HERE IS OUR NUMBER 252-527-0442
*********** ************* ************** *********** ***********
Activists accused McCain of stonewalling the release of POW records because they contained evidence he had collaborated with the North Vietnamese.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MUY9S6iCvk

Posted by: popasmoke | October 13, 2008 7:30 PM | Report abuse

McCain is still fighting Vietnam.
One minute he was top-gunning those "commie gooks" in their cities and rice paddies and the next he was in a prison camp for five and a half years. He's lucky they didn't kill him on the spot. After all, that's what he was doing to them. Many would consider his bombing runs over Hanoi the activities of a war criminal.
I'm sure he came home wondering how did we "lose"? After all, we had all the fire power, the carriers, the aircraft, the men, the economics - we were the "super power". I'm sure he thinks we lost because we didn't have the "guts" to pursue "victory". We were "betrayed" by those nasty "librals" "Stabbed in the back" so to speak. Sounds llike some German Corporal's excuse for losing the Great War.
Of course we all now know (except maybe for John) that a "commie" Vietnam was no danger to the United States; that their war was one of nationalism vs. colonialism. They fought the Japanese, then the returning French colonialists, then their American successors.
There are 58,000+ names on a black wall that we "honor" - kids mostly. Kids drafted off the poorer streets of America, given a few months of basic and dropped in a faraway country to "kill commies". Most died while Nixon vowed to bring the troops "home with honor" When pols use that expression it usually means someone else's kid has to die for an empty slogan.
Too many died too far away from home for far too little. There is no honor in that.
Too many kids died at Kent State.
My bedroom set is marked "Made in Vietnam".
Those kids died for nothing.
Bill Ayers killed no one.
Who knows how many "Top Gun" McSame killed dropping bombs on civilians in another war that never had to be fought?

Posted by: toritto | October 13, 2008 7:29 PM | Report abuse

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dara2:
" Played' the race card??? Maybe in your wacko world racism should not be talked about, but it's unfortunately alive and well."

Yes, you help keep it that way. you played the race card.


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Posted by: Billw3 | October 13, 2008 7:28 PM | Report abuse

...I left out nihilist and elitist....

:-)

Posted by: toritto | October 13, 2008 7:26 PM | Report abuse

I was born in 1954, and when I was a kid, education was suddenly taken seriously when Russia launched a satellite into earth orbit while the USA was still exploding Vanguard rockets on the launch pad.

Those who remember that time must cringe at much of the pro-McCain (894'th of 899 in his class at Annapolis, 1958) rhetoric.

The years I spent in elementary school were a time when US citizens understood that "being folksy" and "having a lot of heart" weren't going to be good enough to deal with enemies capable of putting nuclear weapons atop ballistic missiles and sending those weapons to any target on earth.

It's one thing to suffer the occasional split infinitive. It's something else again to be as stupid as the current President of the United States of America.

And it's something else yet worse to be even more of an underachiever than Dubya.

The rest of the world could care less whether or not we US citizens beat our breasts. We are going to have to demonstrate some substance during coming years.

I have no doubt that John McCain can beat his breast. And I have no doubt that Barack *Hussein* Obama can show some substance. And his middle name doesn't bother me a whit. All I want is a good showing for the USA.

Posted by: officermancuso | October 13, 2008 7:25 PM | Report abuse

Obama friends with terrorist Ayers for 13 years. Whoops, did Ayers really do that? I did not know.

Obama friends with anti-American radical Wright for 20 years. Whoops, was Wright really anti-American. I did not know.

Obama on the roles of NEW PARTY, a self-declared SOCIALIST party in Chicago. Whoops, was I really listed as a member of their party and listed as one of their candidates? Whoops, I did not know.

Obama gave over two million dollars to VOTER FRAUD organization ACORN. He defended them in the past for voter fraud. ACORN was in deep with socialist party NEW PARTY when Obama was listed as a member of NEW PARTY. Whoops, I did not know, I did not know, how about some nice pie?

Obama got a 300,000 dollar gift from mobster Toni Rezko, turned out to be just another guy in the neighborhood. Whoops, I did not know.

Finally, Obama says McCain is out of touch.

Posted by: KMichaels | October 13, 2008 7:25 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Billw3

Hey you played the race card, not me.
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'Played' the race card??? Maybe in your wacko world racism should not be talked about, but it's unfortunately alive and well. A couple of examples for you:

http://media.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/opinions/pages/votewhite.jpg


http://media.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/opinions/pages/osamaorhussein.jpg

Friends of yours perhaps?


Posted by: Dara2 | October 13, 2008 7:25 PM | Report abuse

"Obama has repeatedly sided with, done work with and was friends with many people that openly hate America.

McCain has not."

McCain is actually a LOT more liberal in comparison to Obama. Like close to communist.

Posted by: DDAWD | October 13, 2008 7:25 PM | Report abuse

"This race, judging from the Post/ABC data, is darn near unwinnable for McCain."

Thank you, Captain Obvious. I've been posting that for almost a year now.

Zouk, you are a troll, but a funny troll. Your humor has been replaced by an obvious desperation. There is still time to turn it around, though (unlike your boy McClueless).

You Eight Percenters - you keep on posting. I don't know exactly how you guys feel, but rest assured that I am going to have the time of my life rubbing it in over then next three weeks.

Posted by: bondjedi | October 13, 2008 7:25 PM | Report abuse

McCain's efforts at swift-boating don't seem to be working.

It always helps to have the truth on your side.

Both major, independent fact-check sites have proven that the smear about the alleged Ayers/Obama connection are lies and distortions by team McCain.

For the summaries, and links, to use when countering the slander from the right-wing angry mouthpieces:

http://scootmandubious.blogspot.com/2008/10/fact-check-debunks-lie-about-ayers.html

Fight ignorance with the facts.

Posted by: scootmandubious | October 13, 2008 7:23 PM | Report abuse

"Mccain is a citizen only by the vaguest of definitions."

no, I have absolutely no problem with McCain being naturalized the way that he was. He should be completely, 100% allowed to be president.

But I'm also not one of those racists who brings up Obama's birth certificate without asking the same questions of McCain. Just because he's white and is named John, he's not asked.

Posted by: DDAWD | October 13, 2008 7:23 PM | Report abuse

OMG! He's BLACK!

That black librul, socialist, pinko, commie, marxist, leninist, stalinist, maoist, trotskyite, Chicago pol, that terrorist, friend of terrorists, reader of Malcolm X, disciple of Rev. Wright, muslim, islamo fascist manchurian candidate with the angry wife, Columbia and Harvard educated community organizer.....(did I leave anything out?) is gonna be PRESIDENT of the United States of America Barack HUSSEIN Obama!!

(applause)

Oh Happy Day!

(paranoia runs deep....into your mind it will creep)

Posted by: toritto | October 13, 2008 7:23 PM | Report abuse

Mccain is a citizen only by the vaguest of definitions.

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"Obama was born in the U.S. of A."

Incidentally, McCain wasn't.

Posted by: DDAWD | October 13, 2008 7:15 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: popasmoke | October 13, 2008 7:20 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Dara2
"Let's see, I asked if you right wing wackos biggest issue with Obama is that he is black. So by right wing wacko logic, that means that somehow I have a problem with whites??? Did you learn this line of reasoning from Fox or Limbaugh? "

Hey you played the race card, not me.

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Posted by: Billw3 | October 13, 2008 7:19 PM | Report abuse

Obama has repeatedly sided with, done work with and was friends with many people that openly hate America.

McCain has not.

Posted by: KMichaels | October 13, 2008 7:19 PM | Report abuse

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officermancuso"
"What kind of logic is that? Where can I go to study it, at a reputable place of learning?"

South Chicago area likely.


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Posted by: Billw3 | October 13, 2008 7:18 PM | Report abuse

Dara2 re Obama:
"Isn't your real problem with him just one thing, that he's black"

You have problems with whites then?
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Let's see, I asked if you right wing wackos biggest issue with Obama is that he is black. So by right wing wacko logic, that means that somehow I have a problem with whites???

Did you learn this line of reasoning from Fox or Limbaugh?

Posted by: Dara2 | October 13, 2008 7:17 PM | Report abuse

Obama now praising Hillaries "disastrous" mortgage related policies as his own and so therefore good. What was once bad is now apparently good.

And what about capital gains taxes? Obama has now suddenly seen the light and now thinks that capital gains taxes on small business people may not be that good of a thing.

Talk about being erratic.

Of course, I dont think he is being erratic per say. More like lying his arse off and promising everything to everyone in order to buy some cheap votes.

And just watch the idiot Obamites on this board praising Obama on things that they said that they despised just yesterday. These plans are good now since their false messiah has blessed them.

Posted by: KMichaels | October 13, 2008 7:16 PM | Report abuse

"Obama was born in the U.S. of A."

Incidentally, McCain wasn't.

Posted by: DDAWD | October 13, 2008 7:15 PM | Report abuse

billw3 wrote:

Dara2 re Obama:
"Isn't your real problem with him just one thing, that he's black"

You have problems with whites then?

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What kind of logic is that? Where can I go to study it, at a reputable place of learning?

Posted by: officermancuso | October 13, 2008 7:14 PM | Report abuse

Posted without comment:

"Where is Obama's college transcripts located at?"

Posted by: officermancuso | October 13, 2008 7:12 PM | Report abuse

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Dara2 re Obama:
"Isn't your real problem with him just one thing, that he's black"

You have problems with whites then?

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Posted by: Billw3 | October 13, 2008 7:11 PM | Report abuse

hey cranky - guess who owns factcheck?

guess how all their "facts" turn out? hint - similar to the NYTimes use of "facts".

you are required to use quote marks.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | October 13, 2008 7:08 PM | Report abuse

Another nutball rightie quote:

"for someone who has convinced so many he(Obama) is so smart, the evidence for this conclusion is severly lacking."

There ya go, tell us more. Show us the brilliant scholar McCain was. Hello? Oh, the line went dead. Crank call.

Posted by: tdub55 | October 13, 2008 7:08 PM | Report abuse

Wow, this is getting downright amazing...

You right wing wackos are really getting desperate.

So let me understand this, Obama is, by your account, a Muslim, an Arab, a terrorist, a mobster, a 'socialist marxist' (by the way, those are different things, but let's not go there...!), a liar, under achiever, affirmative action beneficiary, unAmerican, traitor, ...

Isn't your real problem with him just one thing, that he's black and happens to have a 'weird' name in your book?

Posted by: Dara2 | October 13, 2008 7:06 PM | Report abuse

With Obama as President and the USA finally healing and growing strong once again, you dimwitted Republicans will need to admit your tremendous failure. Your ideology is warped and broken, it does not work, you had 8 years with Bush's dictatorship to prove yourselves and you have failed completely. Admit your failure when Obama and the Democrats get our country straight again, and then do us all a favor, go away, we don't need you, it's the right thing to do.

Posted by: Hillary08 | October 13, 2008 7:06 PM | Report abuse

We have had 8 years of Republican rule, 6 of which the GOP controlled both houses of Congress.

We have been lied to and taken into an unnecessary war. When did the United States become a nation that attacks a 3rd world country "pre-emtively"?

We have tortured our prisoners and suspended the right of Habeas Corpus - first granted in the Magna Carta. When did it become OK for the good guys to torture prisoners? Are we nazis?

Our national debt has virtually tripled to over 10 TRILLION dollars (that's trillion with a "t"). We have a half trillion dollar budget deficit. The GOP was the party of smaller government and fiscal restraint. We have become the world's greatest debtor nation.

Forty million plus people have no health insurance but there was no initiatives from the Republicans to do anything about it - only railing against "socialized medicine" and medicare.

The investments of individuals in their retirment funds, college funds and mutual funds have collapsed over the last 12 months wiping out tens of trillions of dollars in wealth. If you had planned to retire in 5 years you can probably forget it. If your kid was starting college in 2 years you may have to plan on more student loans, if you can get one. Keep that old car too - no car loans available.

Housing prices have declined precipitously to the point where millions of families owe more on their homes than they are worth. The equity in their homes has evaporated into thin air.

Banks are unwilling to lend even to other banks putting businesses and jobs in danger of disappearing. Three of the five largest investment banks are gone along with Washington Mutual, Wachovia and others. AIG has had to borrow over $100 billion from the Fed.

Our friends abroad laugh at our President. His is a worldwide joke. Our armed forces are stretched to the limit and enemies thumb their noses at us. The Taliban is reorganized in Afghanistan and McSame keeps spouting "victory in Iraq". Even the Iraqis want us to go home.

Shall I go on?

I would vote for Charlie Brown before I would vote Republican.

Not this time; not this year.

Posted by: toritto | October 13, 2008 7:06 PM | Report abuse

Please respond, this time with some thought, intelligence and proper grammar.

Posted by: beaversrus

I would do that but then Liberals would not be able to understand me. I have adopted the vernacular of ignorance and idiocy of the majority of this blog -- that is, angry leftists.

If intelligence, persuasion, thoughfulness and facts were pertinent, Obama would not be the candidate.

It is now all marketing and packaging, can't you see that? We are dealing with a very pretty but empty box.

do you really think that 95% of the country will get a tax break while still being able to pay for all those goodies he has promised? Absurd.

this is essentially, "I promise to send you a check from the US treasury, vote for me!"

Imagine when President Obama has to decide where to send a carrier group.

What's a carrier group asked the messiah.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | October 13, 2008 7:06 PM | Report abuse

Blondshag-

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html

Obama was born in the U.S. of A.

Posted by: Cranky1000 | October 13, 2008 7:05 PM | Report abuse

QUOTE: "Obamas far leftist socialist connections are growing, as more conservative journalists (the non-yellow type) are digging up the real history of Obama."

Oopsie, looks like the paranoid delusions have returned. Time for your meds....

Posted by: tdub55 | October 13, 2008 7:04 PM | Report abuse

KMichaels,

You couldn't have been too concerned about oily when you voted for Bush. There are more ties to big oil in this administration than there are flies on a pile of doggy dirt. Biden might have gotten the medium wrong, but FDR did do fireside chats with the people on the radio and kept them apprised of what was going on. And if you think verbal slip ups compare to a general lack of scholarship, then you don't sound too different from most of the right wing scholars here.

Posted by: terencemcsweeney | October 13, 2008 7:03 PM | Report abuse

"And now it turns out that Obama is actually on the rolls as a member of the SOCIALIST NEW PARTY party in 1996. Yet again, even more evidence of his FAR FAR FAR LEFT slant. And the main stream media on this? Oh, lets not talk about anything that may make our new found messiah look less than godly."

Actually, Obama is very conservative for a Democrat.

Posted by: DDAWD | October 13, 2008 7:00 PM | Report abuse

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"Obamas far leftist socialist connections are growing, as more conservative journalists (the non-yellow type) are digging up the real history of Obama."

If the media turned and supported McCain, Obama would lose 10-15 points in the polls.

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Posted by: Billw3 | October 13, 2008 6:59 PM | Report abuse

McCAIN-PALIN'S 'FELLOW TRAVELER' INSINUATIONS:
WHAT IF U.S. SECURITY FORCES AGREE?

http://www.nowpublic.com/world/mccain-palins-fellow-traveler-insinuations-what-if-u-s-security-forces-agree

Posted by: scrivener50 | October 13, 2008 6:59 PM | Report abuse

Kathyrn, Kathryn, Kathryn! The "Social New Left Party" is a Swedish Party and Obama has never even been to Sweden and has neer had anything to do with them. I doubt if any Amercian's even know of the existance of that party.

The actual facts are, in 1996, Obama sought the *endorsement* of the "NEW PARTY", an eclectic assortment of union, liberal and leftist politcial groups (including, by the way, the Chicago Teachers Union, the local Carpenters Union, and other unions, Jesse Jackson's old campaign organzation). The New Party was formed in 1992 and died in 1998 when some genuine leftists, the Socialist Owkrers Party, attempted to take control of it. So....what actually happened was, Obama sought an endorsement from a collection of union and black political groups. Period. Then, two years later, with Obama completely out of the picture, some genuine leftist tried to take control and, rather than allow that to happen, Jackson and the union folk disbanded that party. Hardly a conspiracy or leftist plot. Now, can we discuss the 1857 massacre Mormon at Mountain Meadows, insttead. You know, the one where 120 settlers, on their way to California, were hacked to death by Mormons?

Posted by: mibrooks27 | October 13, 2008 6:59 PM | Report abuse

I am still waiting for the mavericky McCain/Pailin campaign to explain why the (R) next to their names on the ballot is any different from the (R) that was next to Bush/Cheney on the last ballot.

I see a lot of attacks on the (D), but I don't hear a single thing distinguishing these (R)'s from the last (R)'s.

Posted by: officermancuso | October 13, 2008 6:59 PM | Report abuse

DOES anyone know 'WHERE OBAMA' was born and has anyone seen his birth certificate?
Was Obama born in America or Africa?

Where is Obama's college transcripts located at? Has anyone seen that information?

Does anyone know anything about Obama's medical health? Where is that information located at?

PLEASE PASS THIS ON -- HOPEFULLY SOMEONE KNOWS THAT ANSWER.

THANKS.

Posted by: Blondshag | October 13, 2008 6:59 PM | Report abuse

King of GadZouk,

you seem to stick on the same issues over and over again, but what you don't realize is that you will NOT change people's minds on here. So I wonder, are you writing this drivel to bother others? Is this your way of venting? Why? You make no sense: strategically, morally, ethically (keep defending Palin jacka**), intelligently. Your points are so incredibly minor in the grand scheme of things I wonder why someone would keep blogging about them.

Please respond, this time with some thought, intelligence and proper grammar.

Posted by: beaversrus | October 13, 2008 6:57 PM | Report abuse

The closer Obama comes to winning, the more intense the hate speech on this Blog, Its like a barometer reflecting McCain's losing campaign. When the economy and our retirement plans are going down in flames because of failed Bush/McCain policies people want answers and hope for the future, not lies and bigotry.

Posted by: jeffl240 | October 13, 2008 6:57 PM | Report abuse

"Obama wrote bad poetry in Occidental College"

wow, you discovered some of the messiahs writings. you must not have looked at his days as editor of Harvard law review, or his years of teaching law, or his actual work as a lawyer, or his bills he wrote in the Senate - because he never wrote anything all that time.

for someone who has convinced so many he is so smart, the evidence for this conclusion is severly lacking.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | October 13, 2008 6:56 PM | Report abuse

Obamas far leftist socialist connections are growing, as more conservative journalists (the non-yellow type) are digging up the real history of Obama.

As it turns out, Obama is listed on the roles of the self-declared SOCIALIST party NEW PARTY. Obama is listed as one of three NEW PARTY members that was doing well in the Chicago Senate election of its day (1996).

As it also turns out ACORN was also very tight with NEW PARTY (a key socialist party of chicago).

Obviously Ayers is a self-declared socialist marxist.

Also it is newworthy to note that Obama sent ACORN over a million dollars of Anneburg money.

ACORN more recently was given nearly a milllion dollars from Obama's current campaign to "sign up" people to vote. There are more and more reports coming out that some people were registered over 50 different times. One guy claims, at the behest and payment of ACORN, that he registered 72 different times.

Obama also got freebies from mobster Rezko in return for political favors.

Obama is also on record doing political favors for his terrorist pal Ayers.

Ayers is a real hero in the educational arena in Chicago however. Except that it is only in the socialist leftist slant of education. His stated philosophy is the downfall of capitalism and the redistribution of wealth.

Obama today stated to a concerned businessman griping about Obama's higher taxes on businesses that he should feel good about the redistribution of wealth, since, according to Obama, it is only fair.

I would say that Socialism Obama style was never fair. It has always been a cheap substitute for a more free society.

Posted by: KMichaels | October 13, 2008 6:54 PM | Report abuse

The "Obama Birth Certificate" comment made by King of Zouk (but occasionally said by McCain supporters) is a really strange "glass houses throwing stones" considering that McCain was born in Panama, before the 1940 naturalization statutes and thus was required, under the 1907 amendment to file a declaration of the intent to be a U.S. Citizen. According to the law, McCain's not a natural born citizen.

Posted by: Cranky1000 | October 13, 2008 6:53 PM | Report abuse

We want to see change the direction of the country, not yet again John McCain's campaign. Can you imagine how erratic his administration would be?

Posted by: gjcomm | October 13, 2008 6:53 PM | Report abuse

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KMichaels re Obama
"A slick snake oil salesman with all of the sincerity of your average mobster politicians from Chicago."

I think he sells stumpwater on Sunday. At least that was what Wright recommended. Higher profit margin.

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Posted by: Billw3 | October 13, 2008 6:52 PM | Report abuse

Scariest idea for halloween:

President Obama

wait, even scarier:
Speaker Pelosi, Leader Reid and President Obama

the list of other ghouls: chairman wrangle, chairman dodd, chairman Frank, congressman Jefferson

Posted by: king_of_zouk | October 13, 2008 6:52 PM | Report abuse

"ddawd, an analysis was done of the writing style using machine learning technology."

Haha, that was actually pretty amusing. The premise of the whole thing was that Obama wrote bad poetry in Occidental College, so he couldn't have written something as brilliant as Dreams From My Father.

That's the premise.

Then the number scores are pretty spurious. They both use the same numbers of words per sentence and some reading difficulty thing.

The funniest part was the writer pimping his book throughout the entire piece.

Posted by: DDAWD | October 13, 2008 6:50 PM | Report abuse


DrainYOu said:
"McCain is afraid to stand up to the ugliness and hate that his own campaign is whipping up, terrified that he'll alienate the only group still firmly in his (Palin's) corner."

Ignorance gone to seed. Just yesterday McCain chastized someone in his audience, saying Obama was decent, and no need to fear him being President.

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Posted by: Billw3 | October 13, 2008 6:48 PM | Report abuse

gad zouks.

The part where you imagine american thinker is independent thinking.

Posted by: terencemcsweeney | October 13, 2008 6:45 PM | Report abuse

Obamite lapdogger writes: "If you took a map of the middle east and removed the names of the countries, I'll bet McCain and Palin together could not fill in as many blanks as Obama. There is something to be said of scholarship, and because we've already seen"

Obama clinched it when he told reporters that he had visited 57 of the states of America. Hmmm, that is your idea of scholarship?

How about Biden saying that he would do like FDR did during the big crash starting the depression. That he would do like he did and get on the TV and explain what happened.

Only thing, Hoover was president, not FDR and TV would not be in use until late 1930s. And even then it would be only a small percentage of Americans owning one.

Obama is not scholarly. He is more oily than anything. A slick snake oil salesman with all of the sincerity of your average mobster politicians from Chicago.

Posted by: KMichaels | October 13, 2008 6:45 PM | Report abuse

mikeb - I keep forgetting that utter kookiness is the province of angry leftists only. drindl, where are you to represent your sheeple?

Posted by: king_of_zouk | October 13, 2008 6:44 PM | Report abuse

a link to american thinker? You should be King of gad zouks!

Posted by: terencemcsweeney


so which part of the link offends a liberal worse - being an american or being a thinker?

Posted by: king_of_zouk | October 13, 2008 6:41 PM | Report abuse

"McCain is afraid to stand up to the ugliness and hate that his own campaign is whipping up, terrified that he'll alienate the only group still firmly in his (Palin's) corner"

Sorry, but I dont see any democrat trying to slow down hate in any fashion or guise. Blind hate about who did what with the economy is a main staple of democrat politicians today. And Obama is no exception. Obama and Biden both know that they have been lying their arses off about specifics on the economy. Both they and all of their surrogates have done nothing but stoke fear and hate relative to the economy.

McCain and Palin pointing out Obama's radical connections is not only ethical but long overdue.

I find it laughable to see idiot Obama lapdoggers saying that Obama has been an open book for four years now so why all the negative talk about Obama now.

The bigger question, considering all of the questionable leftist marxist radical mobster connections that truly are a large part of Obamas past is why did it take four years to start discussing them seriously now?

And now it turns out that Obama is actually on the rolls as a member of the SOCIALIST NEW PARTY party in 1996. Yet again, even more evidence of his FAR FAR FAR LEFT slant. And the main stream media on this? Oh, lets not talk about anything that may make our new found messiah look less than godly.

Posted by: KMichaels | October 13, 2008 6:39 PM | Report abuse

In case you're curious, RCP no longer lists Florida as a tossup. Now Obama's lead is 304-158 among the non tossups.

Just a few more weeks and the votes just keep coming in.

Posted by: DDAWD | October 13, 2008 6:37 PM | Report abuse

Obama's numbers appear to have peaked a few days back.

Here are the latest tracking numbers snd the Obama leads:


Gallup: 11% lead among registered voters, down to 7% (5% among likely voters)


Rasmussen: 8% lead down to 5%.


Among smaller sample tracking polls:


Zogby/Reuters: 6% lead down to 4%


Diageo/Hotline: 10% lead down to 6%


Battleground: 8% lead, still 8%

Posted by: king_of_zouk | October 13, 2008 6:36 PM | Report abuse

If you took a map of the middle east and removed the names of the countries, I'll bet McCain and Palin together could not fill in as many blanks as Obama. There is something to be said of scholarship, and because we've already seen the results of electing one academic underachieving, well connected son of privilege, we don't need another one, much less from the same party.

Posted by: terencemcsweeney | October 13, 2008 6:36 PM | Report abuse

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DrainYou said McCain was asked:
"both Barack Obama and Osama Bin Laden have friends that have bombed the Pentagon"

Is this true?

Is this true, DrainYou?

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Posted by: Billw3 | October 13, 2008 6:36 PM | Report abuse

KOZ - Your posts today are really beneith you. First, I know full well that you have rread about the media reports where ABC, CNN, NBC, every major network and newspaper, was allowed access to his original birth certificate and every one of them has published that it is legitimate and real. (The actually physically held it!)

As for Obama's father, he was a bum that walked out on him and his mother when he was less than a year old. Obama was raised by his mother and grandmother and never knew his father. My dad, a thoroughly unreprentent Republican, is just about the greatest dad anyone ever had. He is a genuine hero and I thank god for him every day. Not everyone, not even most people, are as fortunate as I am and I certainly aren't going to gloat becasue I had a great father while someone else didn't have one at all or had a lousy dad.

The only valid concern you raise is Rev. Wright. Now, how many of us have sat in a church, year after year, and listened to the pastor blather some nonsense that we disagree with or even think is flat out nuts. I have. I have this bizzare recollection of one (former) pastor going on and on in a sermon about a beer goddess and sundary other Sumarian dieties and people riding dinosaurs!!!! Very weird stuff, but at least the beer goddess made some sense. Of course, he had a stoke very shortly thereafter and was replaced by someone SANE (Conservative Baptist Congregation). Now I attend a Calvary Chapel, which is strictly exergetical, and the weird stuff (and politics) are gone/no more. It's a breath of fresh air!

In your case, I strongly suggest you find a good church, and I would suggest a local Calvery Chapel, and start attending regularly. Often you are a thoughtful and quite humorous guy and I think you need to make some friends outside of nutty right wing circles. You are one of the very few conservatives here I wished I knew, personally. I think, sitting around my kitchen table, drinking a couple of beers...or six, and talking about ANYTHING and EVERYTHING but politics would do you a world of good.

Posted by: mibrooks27 | October 13, 2008 6:35 PM | Report abuse

ddawd, an analysis was done of the writing style using machine learning technology.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/10/who_wrote_dreams_from_my_fathe_1.html

I can't vouch for the algorithms used in the technique, but the idea is interesting. Very analytical article. quite convincing.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | October 13, 2008 6:35 PM | Report abuse

"37thandOStreet, It is not at all uncommon for members of a law review not to be published, in fact out of maybe 30 or so poeple on the review at any point in time perhaps two or three will be published. And while it may be true that he never worked as a traditional lawyer... He did become a constitutional law professor which most would agree is a much superior position (at least requiring much more in the way of scholastic aptitude.)"


Don't worry about it. The guy is a frothing racist. All these things don't matter to 37+0

Posted by: DDAWD | October 13, 2008 6:33 PM | Report abuse

McCain continues with his cowardly refusal to stand up to the hate at his and Side Show Palin's rallies:


QUESTION: "The chair of the Republican Party in Virginia has said, quote, in Time magazine, "both Barack Obama and Osama Bin Laden have friends that have bombed the Pentagon. That is scary." Is that appropriate for a state party chair to be saying"?

MCCAIN: "I have to look at the context of his remarks. I have always repudiated any comments that have been made that were inappropriate about Senator Obama."
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http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/10/mccain_declines_to_condemn_vir.php
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McCain is afraid to stand up to the ugliness and hate that his own campaign is whipping up, terrified that he'll alienate the only group still firmly in his (Palin's) corner.


Which brings us to a poster that was proudly waved during McCain's speech earlier today:
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http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/1008/Republican_activists_offmessage_at_McCain_rallies_cont.html?showall
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Posted by: DrainYou | October 13, 2008 6:30 PM | Report abuse

gad zouks

How about listing major Republican accomplishments in the last eight years?

Posted by: terencemcsweeney | October 13, 2008 6:29 PM | Report abuse

"Name the ghost writer who scribed his first book - Hint - ayers"

I haven't heard this one before. Did you just make it up?

Posted by: DDAWD | October 13, 2008 6:29 PM | Report abuse

37thandOStreet, It is not at all uncommon for members of a law review not to be published, in fact out of maybe 30 or so poeple on the review at any point in time perhaps two or three will be published. And while it may be true that he never worked as a traditional lawyer... He did become a constitutional law professor which most would agree is a much superior position (at least requiring much more in the way of scholastic aptitude.)

You also said, "Obama was elected to the US Senator, however instead of doing his job as a Senator Obama went on a book tour and started a campaign for President"
He was actually elected to the US Senate, and one could accuse McCain of slacking more so than Obama, He has missed more votes this year.

Posted by: stevenmpalmer | October 13, 2008 6:28 PM | Report abuse

Actually, the polls that came out today from FOX News actually seem slightly favorable for McCain

+2, +5 for Obama in Ohio
tie in NC
+5 in Florida
+3, +8 in Missouri
+3 in Virginia

Of course, if this indicates GOOD news for McCain...well, make of it what you will.

Posted by: DDAWD | October 13, 2008 6:27 PM | Report abuse

King of zouk

You demand independent sources and then you offer a link to american thinker? You should be King of gad zouks!

Posted by: terencemcsweeney | October 13, 2008 6:27 PM | Report abuse

Student writing in the Harvard Law Review is unsigned. http://www.harvardlawreview.org/about.shtml

Also, not all student written work gets published.

Posted by: Cranky1000 | October 13, 2008 6:25 PM | Report abuse

challenge of the day - unsolvable scavenger hunt:

find Obama's accomplishments
find someone who will stand for him from his past that is not in prison or heading there or got off on a technicality
Point out a single bi-partisan piece of work
Produce actual US birth certificate
Name the ghost writer who scribed his first book - Hint - ayers
describe all those guys from the neighborhood - the preacher, the money guy, the mentor
find a promise he has kept - you can't use FISa, cmapaign finance, losing the war, new politics, etc.
describe how a baby can be born after an abortion yet still be pre-born and left to die
find one critical story of Obama in any MSM publication

OK, I know this is all impossible. It is a joke, like your candidate.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | October 13, 2008 6:20 PM | Report abuse


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A great deal has been said of Obama as head of the Harvard Law Review - however the evidence is that he was voted into that position because the people thought it would be "cool" to have a black in there, not because he was more qualified than the other students.


Having said that, Obama NEVER wrote for the Harvard Law Review.


There is NOT ONE ARTICLE WRITTEN BY OBAMA IN THE HARVARD LAW REVIEW.


There is a pattern of Obama getting positions or jobs through affirmative action and then NOT doing those jobs.


1) First, he took a position in the class at Harvard Law School (from a white student) however Obama NEVER became a lawyer,


2) Obama became head of the Harvard Law Review, however Obama NEVER wrote a law review article.


3) Obama became a State Senator however Obama RARELY voted yes or not, voting present many many times - Emil Jones placed Obama's name on numerous bills which were Emil's work, and Obama took credit for Emil's work because someone decided that Obama was going to be pushed forward.


4) Obama was selected to be the Chairman of the SubCommittee to review NATO's role in Afghanistan however Obama NEVER held any hearings of this SubCommittee.


5) Obama was elected to the US Senator, however instead of doing his job as a Senator Obama went on a book tour and started a campaign for President - HOW MUCH TIME HAS HE REALLY SPENT ACTUALLY BEING A SENATOR ???

Sorry However NONE OF THIS IS IMPRESSIVE. In fact, it is rather sad.


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Posted by: 37thandOStreet | October 13, 2008 6:18 PM | Report abuse

Its interesting that someone portrays someone from middle-east as evil. I wonder where Jesus was from

Posted by: pkkm | October 13, 2008 6:18 PM | Report abuse

What you're witnessing is blue revolution.

Four or five days ago the great unwashed awoke to find that - OMG - that black socialist guy is leading!!!

How can that be??

(Rage) HOW CAN THAT BEEEEE!!

I'll bet that, as Louis and Marie Antoinette were being lead out of Versailles they exclaimed "Be we are the most French!! We love this country best! These revolutionaries have no experience! They don't know how to govern!!

Heehee

Posted by: toritto | October 13, 2008 6:11 PM | Report abuse

flip=flop of the day:

Obama today rolls out another set of proposals for dealing with the economic crisis, one focused more on the human consequences of the crisis.

The plan includes helping out states and localities, allowing people to cash out part of their retirement savings without tax penalties, and an arrangement with banks that would include a 90-day moratorium on foreclosures for many homeowners.

The plan is a striking sign of how far this crisis has moved, and a sign that Obama has shifted toward a more populist approach. In February, after Hillary Clinton proposed a similar foreclosure moratorium, the Los Angeles Times reported that Obama condemned her plan:


In San Antonio on Tuesday, Obama said that Clinton’s foreclosure freeze was potentially “disastrous,” rewarding “people who made this problem worse” by benefiting banks that profit from high mortgage rates.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | October 13, 2008 6:10 PM | Report abuse

I don't know why some of you sane people are even wasting your time responding logically to wackos like king_of_zouk!

Zouk probably just came back from a Palin rally. Or maybe he got some 'fair and balanced' reporting from Hannity, Limbaugh and others...

There's no logic/reason/proof in the world that will change people like Zouk and his ilk. It's the same as many other McLame/bimbo supporters who think 'God' is on their side!!

I just hope none of these wacko morons decides to take things into their own hands. These are truly crazed people...

Posted by: Dara2 | October 13, 2008 6:09 PM | Report abuse

MY FELLOW PRISONERS. McCain's Alzheimer's moment.

Posted by: ottothewise | October 13, 2008 6:07 PM | Report abuse

"PS> Dont give us that old one about Obama's birth certificate. Its posted on Obama's website and validated by independent sources" independent - like the DNC. Ha ha. you libs.


so is my title as emperor of the Universe.

so was Bush's Rathergate document.

Produce the original in court. What are you afraid of - the truth????

Posted by: king_of_zouk | October 13, 2008 6:06 PM | Report abuse

G.O.P. - God Obviously Pissed

Posted by: steeleswitters | October 13, 2008 6:06 PM | Report abuse

I just want to see that DNA test of McCain for incipient Alzheimer's.

Posted by: ottothewise | October 13, 2008 6:06 PM | Report abuse

Let's have two additional debates and have the candidates pick a format.

In Obama's case, he can have the candidates debate while they dribble and shoot basketballs into hoops. This way we can see if our candidate can dribble and talk at the same time. We can see if they can set the objective and take the hoop.

That would be funny for sure and while we are hearing about each candidates economic plan, energy policy, and plan to search out Osama bin Ladin. What a game.

Posted by: lucy2008 | October 13, 2008 6:05 PM | Report abuse

Let's talk "Muslim" for a moment. Why exactly would the USA not want to elect a Muslim, when we are at war with 1 billion Muslims, due to the insanity of the Rove Bush regime, blithely attacking the middle east with NO reason.
If we HAD a Muslim president, we would have a chance of negotiating peace on reasonable terms.

Posted by: ottothewise | October 13, 2008 6:05 PM | Report abuse

Hey Zouk, If I voted for him once, and then didn't vote for him the second time, that would make me only 50% wrong, not 100% as you say.

Posted by: stevenmpalmer | October 13, 2008 6:04 PM | Report abuse

I'll tell you what, let's have Senator Obama release his medical records to the public if Senator McCain releases his medical records to the public.

Senator Obama's birth certificate has been released for over a year and reviewed by all of the FactCheck, DNC, and PoliticCheck fact checking sites. Non issue.

Let's have Senator Obama release his grades for college if Senator McCain releases his real grades for classes and his military record for flying. Remember Senator McCain finished at the bottom of his class and Senator Obama graduated top of his class and became the editor of the Harvard Law Review and given funds to write his own book.

Posted by: lucy2008 | October 13, 2008 6:02 PM | Report abuse

king_of_zouk

PUBLISH McCain's test results from his test for 'incipient Alzheimer's".

It doesnt exist because he would not get tested.

PS> Dont give us that old one about Obama's birth certificate. Its posted on Obama's website and validated by independent sources
McCain's Alzheimer's test does not exist in any form, contested or not. You can go on and on about your fantasies about the Obama birth certificate. He could be from Mars, but he has a birth certificate, regardless, whereas McCain never submitted to being tested for Alzheimer's or ANY neurological issues.
How did you like that MY FELLOW PRISONERS, the other day.
That's McCain as the Alzheimer's candidate. My Fellow prisoners.
Wanna know what that was about? He used to practice giving presidential speeches while a POW because he decided to run for president when he was a prisoner. He had a flash back and it was an ALZHEIMER's moment. He was back in Hanoi, pretending to be the president, again. My Fellow Prisoners.
Really. My fellow prisoners. Just think about it for a minute.
My fellow prisoners. Has a ring to it, doesnt it?!!!

Posted by: ottothewise | October 13, 2008 6:01 PM | Report abuse

"There are plenty of reasons to argue against Sen McCain for President. His position in his graduating class is not one of them."

Agreed. There's nothing about him that screams mental midget. Of course he is not at Obama's level, but very few people are. He's been an effective Senator for a long time now.

Posted by: DDAWD | October 13, 2008 6:01 PM | Report abuse

Rataylor1:

Let me get this right ... because Obama is good looking, a great speaker, and able to lead large crowds he is like unto Hitler ???? Are you a nut?

You know he's hiding something in regards to the Ayers relationship??? Forget McCain & Palin; it's the folks who buy into their nonsense and make such ridiculous claims that we should be leary of. Hope you're not a co-worker of mine.

Posted by: WordNow | October 13, 2008 5:59 PM | Report abuse

I know you Libs are easily confused and believe pretty much anything that makes Bush sound bad and the messiah sound good but you should really try to get your "facts" somewhere other than blogs, late-night comedians and the NYTimes. all those places post joke news.

If Obama was born here, why not just produce the original birth certificate and dismiss the law suit.

how was he able to go to an Indonesian school which admits only citizens who are Muslim?

what is he hiding, besides his friends, his lack of accomplishments, his leadership, his ideas, etc.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | October 13, 2008 5:59 PM | Report abuse

I've read alot about McCain recently! He struggled w/the validity and overall failure of Vietnam after he came home...deciding with other vets that the defeat was due to treason at home! Not to compare McCain to Hitler but thats the same reasoning Hitler had on why Germany lost WW1! Never occured to either of them that it was a war of AGGRESSION and should NEVER have been launched in the first place!!

Posted by: vet4barack | October 13, 2008 5:58 PM | Report abuse

What is the McCain campaign going to be for Halloween?

ITSELF, it's hideous!

Posted by: Hillary08 | October 13, 2008 5:57 PM | Report abuse

"so were you stupid then or are you stupid now? It must be hard to be wrong all the time."

Yo, zouk, how are things over at Giulianni campaign headquarters?

Posted by: bsimon1 | October 13, 2008 5:56 PM | Report abuse

90% of my neighborhood voted for Senators Obama and Biden in our early mail in vote.

We had the entire block get together and vote. What a night!

We are so excited. Vote early. Vote now. Let's win back our democracy, our constitution, and the rule of law. Let's reform the imperial presidency and build our nation for the 21st century and a leader in the global community. As a leader we can help solve global issues and deal with the bad boys on the play ground. We need a leader, one to unite, and one to inspire.

There is no way McCain has fulfilled any of that. There is noway McCain can lead. There is noway McCain unites or inspires. He cannot even talk. Senator Obama unites over 50% of our country which includes vast different groups of people having different incomes, age, education, urban/suburban geography, ethnic background, and religions (or not). His crowds aren't people of hate and contempt. People are excited about the potential for making change and are energized.

This is the first presidential election that I've donated and I've donated monthly. Let's work hard to make Senators Obama and Biden take back our country.

Posted by: lucy2008 | October 13, 2008 5:56 PM | Report abuse

- A preacher recently opened a McCain/Palin rally with a prayer asking for 'his' God to intercede and show that he is bigger than the 'other' Gods, specifically: Hindu, Buddha and Allah (yes, he seems to actually think 'Hindu' is the name of a God!!! Never mind that Allah also just means 'God' in Arabic! He also mentioned that those 'others' who follow the fake Gods are all praying for Obama to win. Clearly linking Obama to those scary, weird, foreign 'things'...

- Wackos who think Obama is an Arab, Muslim (as if that's a curse word), or terrorist,...

- Head of Virginia Republican party just compared Obama to Bin Laden, and refuses to back down from that assertion!

...and there's much more.

And you right wing nutjobs have the nerve to keep harping on Obama's supposed 'dangerous' character??

God forbid if McLame and his bimbo win. In no time, they'll turn the country into the 'Evangelical Christian Republic of America' and have us engaged in a disastrous war with 'The Islamic Republic of Iran' to make sure teach those damned heathen Moooslems a lesson!

Even some true fiscal conservatives are realizing the downright scariness of McCain/Palin's message and many of them are already switching to Obama.

Sadly, the hardcore McCain support seems to be coming from right wing nutjobs who just can't get over Obama's skin color and the idea that this strange, foreign sounding dark skinned guy may actually become their leader. Sad indeed...

Posted by: Dara2 | October 13, 2008 5:56 PM | Report abuse

This race would have been more interesting if McCain had picked someone like Ms. Rice as his running mate. I'm not a big fan, but she certainly commands respect. Or another female Republican, with international stature and a track record. Choosing a weak candidate like Palin leaves me amazed. What was the Republican National Committee thinking?

That preventing women's civil rights, like abortion rights and preventing civil rights like same sex marriage is more important than understanding how to rebuild the national economy or negotiate with foreign diplomats. This election is based on
www.POCM.INFO


Posted by: ottothewise | October 13, 2008 5:55 PM | Report abuse

Every time McCain comes out with a new direction it simply helps Obama. I can have the guy who has pretty much stayed the course over the last year, or the guy who does a 180 turn at least once a week. One or two campaign course directions is perfectly okay. A course correction once a week, in the final two months of the campaign, during highly insecure times, is not the way to win voter's confidence. Rash, Reckless, Confused, Drowning, 'Has anyone seen Mr. Puddles,' are all ways to describe the McCain campaign of late. These are not election winning descriptions.

Posted by: caribis | October 13, 2008 5:53 PM | Report abuse

This race would have been more interesting if McCain had picked someone like Ms. Rice as his running mate. I'm not a big fan, but she certainly commands respect. Or another female Republican, with international stature and a track record. Choosing a weak candidate like Palin leaves me amazed. What was the Republican National Committee thinking?

Posted by: johnstuartsweet | October 13, 2008 5:50 PM | Report abuse

Why is Obama hiding his birth certificate? his college transcripts? his mediacl records.

why is everything such a secret? what is he afraid of?

answer - the truth.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/10/this_could_be_the_game_changer.html

Posted by: king_of_zouk | October 13, 2008 5:29 PM | Report abuse

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LOL the only thing being hidden is any indication of intelligentthought on your part. Ever heard of google? Here ya go buddy.....LOL

Birth Cert-
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/06/obama-birth.html

Medical Records RELEASED IN MAY>>>YES THATS MAY OF THIS YEAR
http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2008/05/obama_releases_health_informat.html (right wing paper even)
Blood pressure 90/60
Bad cholesterol below 200 at 172
Good cholesterol is good
Triglycerides low (a good thing)
Complete blood count normal
Only doctor visits for upper respiratory infections and minor injuries
Exercises regularly

BOO! Scary Obama who is he really? If you dont know the answer to that either you havent been paying attention of you are simply a moron. Might be a little of the two in your case.


Posted by: feastorafamine | October 13, 2008 5:47 PM | Report abuse

obama is the perfect same old
say anything to get elected
no ethics or morals politician.

do yourself a favor,
and listen to him on monday,
and then on friday.

which candidate will you vote for,
there are obviously two barack obama's.

Nobama08

Yeah McCain hasn't changed a bit since he ran in 2000...LMAO!! As a moderate...I would probably vote for the 2000 McCain who called Jerry Falwell "an agent of intolerance" then by 2003 he was speaking at Falwell's so-called "college" and kissing up to the Bible thumpers to get elected! I will give Obama a try because McCain only knows 1 thing and he's not even right on that (Iraq, Georgia, Pakistan, etc., etc.)

Posted by: vet4barack | October 13, 2008 5:47 PM | Report abuse

I voted for Senators Obama and Biden yesterday. Vote early. Vote now.

I run my own small biotech business and the Obama policies are the best business option for me.

I am middle class with my own home and family and Obama's policies are best for me.

I believe in our capacity to build our economy and industries for the 21st century and Obama's policies are best for me.

I believe in social freedoms and improving the life of women and our families. Obama's policies are for me and ensure civil rights and separation of church and state.

I believe in the constitution and the rule of law and Obama provides the intent to remove the imperial presidency and restore the rule of law - our constitution- prevent citizen abuse and prevent torture.

I believe in the ability of America to lead and make apparent our freedoms to the world by example. I believe in our country's vast capability to generate respect from the international community and work together to solve global problems and to deal with the bad boys. Obama has the philosophy, the wits, and the wisdom and communicates as a leader of men.

I believe in energy independence and protecting and managing our vast environment and resources. Obama has the superior policies. McCain has no vision and is a tool of his party.

Posted by: lucy2008 | October 13, 2008 5:45 PM | Report abuse

There are some angry rednecks out there! Party is over for Bush/McCain.

Posted by: BillyPilgrim1 | October 13, 2008 5:42 PM | Report abuse

I cannot even begin to believe how much Rethug (quite obviously making "thug," as in criminal beneath any type of caring or even thoughtful American society, the operative part of the word) ignorant violence-provoking hatred and outright bold-faced lies are on here. I would surely not grace those horrid people with what used to be the respectable name of "Republican."

Do these skeeves actually believe even one percent of what they're having printed here? Do they not understand that there are Republicans who actually are able to THINK?

You people sound like the lowest of the low, not really fit to be allowed in public, little lone allowed to vote in America.

Yuck! Disgusting! You are so gross! I feel very sorry for your children.

Posted by: jmod35 | October 13, 2008 5:42 PM | Report abuse

obama is the perfect same old
say anything to get elected
no ethics or morals politician.

do yourself a favor,
and listen to him on monday,
and then on friday.

which candidate will you vote for,
there are obviously two barack obama's.

Nobama08

Posted by: USA3 | October 13, 2008 5:37 PM | Report abuse

McCain and his advisers have tried to make up for his shortcomings by focusing on
how to sow perceptions about Obama's ability, knowledge, ethical level, and even association with terrorists. Now they are harvesting the fruits of their naivete, and they are at loss on how to trip Obama to slow his front running advance.

But McCain has been quite ignorant on the issues the Americans care about, and by now the American mainstream public has made
their opinion that McCain is just a George Bush disciple with a big appetite for wars -that's why he danced and sang at a rally "Bomb. Bomb, Bomb Iran" - but nothing else to show on the current suffering of Americans who struggle under the choke-hold of the Wall Street.

McCain came from the Vietnam war as a hero,
but Vietnam was never dislodged from his brain. His war-faring attitude "We are a superpower; we cannot lose," make him a war maniac because he has never digested the U.S. defeat in Vietnam. And his running for president is to give himself a chance to declare war on Iran and prove that under the right leadership -his- the
U.S. would have never -or will never lose a war. Too bad for him, the Americans have had enough of Bush's wars, and they have lost their appetite for more of the same under John McCain.

Also, badly for him, the Americans at this time are concerned more about their pocketbooks, not about McCain's Vietnam era wishes and illusions. Nikos Retsos, retired professor

Posted by: NikosRetsos | October 13, 2008 5:37 PM | Report abuse

These polls are so biased.

FOr UN-biased poll results, go to
http://www.c-span.org/pdf/zogby/101308_poll.pdf

BTW- Headline reads
Obama lead declines.

I guess character DOES matter!

McCain/Palin 08

Posted by: blevins20061 | October 13, 2008 5:21 PM | Report abuse
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Go to ONE site for unbiased polls in PDF form?
LOL Ummm OK. These are the poll numbers...


Poll Date Sample Obama (D) McCain (R) Spread
RCP Average 10/07 - 10/12 -- 50.0 42.6 Obama +7.4
Gallup Tracking 10/10 - 10/12 2284 LV 52 43.5 Obama +8.5
Rasmussen Tracking 10/10 - 10/12 3000 LV 50 45 Obama +5
Reuters/CSpan/Zogby Tracking 10/10 - 10/12 1207 LV 48 44 Obama +4
Hotline/FD Tracking 10/10 - 10/12 823 LV 48 42 Obama +6
ABC News/Wash Post 10/08 - 10/11 766 LV 53 43 Obama +10
GW/Battleground Tracking 10/07 - 10/12 800 LV 51 43 Obama +8
FOX News 10/08 - 10/09 900 RV 46 39 Obama +7
Newsweek 10/08 - 10/09 1035 RV 52 41 Obama +11

Battle ground states....

Ohio
RCP Average 10/03 - 10/09 -- 48.6 45.7 Obama +2.9

PA
RCP Average 10/05 - 10/12 -- 53.4 40.0 Obama +13.4

Michigan
RCP Average 09/18 - 10/08 -- 49.1 41.3 Obama +7.8

WI
RCP Average 09/26 - 10/06 -- 51.4 42.6 Obama +8.8

NH
RCP Average 09/25 - 10/08 -- 52.0 41.6 Obama +10.4

Virginia
RCP Average 09/28 - 10/07 -- 50.6 44.3 Obama +6.3

Florida
RCP Average 09/27 - 10/08 -- 48.7 44.9 Obama +3.8

Missouri
RCP Average 09/28 - 10/12 -- 49.0 46.8 Obama +2.2

Colorado
RCP Average 09/21 - 10/06 -- 49.3 45.3 Obama +4.0

NM
RCP Average 09/17 - 10/02 -- 49.8 42.5 Obama +7.3

RCP Average 09/27 - 10/09 -- 49.2 46.3 Obama +2.9

Electoral map-
Obama: 277
Mccain: 158

OUCH
OUCH
These are complied polling data figures from a wide variety of pollsters. No bias here.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/maps/obama_vs_mccain/#data

Posted by: feastorafamine | October 13, 2008 5:36 PM | Report abuse

There's a brand new (even weirder) version of Sarah's exorcism, just out:

http://tinyurl.com/spookee

Posted by: LisaJM | October 13, 2008 5:35 PM | Report abuse

So let’s sum up Obama’s Chicago connections. His chief financial supporter was Tony Rezko, now on his way to prison. His spiritual adviser was the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, of “God damn America” fame. And the guy who got him his only administrative job is former terrorist Ayers.

Not a good recommendation for a president.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | October 13, 2008 5:34 PM | Report abuse

"I was a Republican, I voted for McCain in the 2000 primary, there is no way I'd do it again. "


so were you stupid then or are you stupid now? It must be hard to be wrong all the time.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | October 13, 2008 5:33 PM | Report abuse

USA3
obama will postpone foreclosures for 90 days, and allow penalty free withdrawl
of 401K monies.
Can I stop paying my mortgage now?
or should I wait.
Maybe we should be ENCOURAGING SAVING!

do dem's do anything but spend?

NOBAMA


****************************************

Are you serious?
2000: Surplus
2008: We owe CHINA!

Great post though, well thought out and completely clueless, much like your party!

Posted by: beaversrus | October 13, 2008 5:32 PM | Report abuse

obama will postpone foreclosures for 90 days, and allow penalty free withdrawl
of 401K monies.
Can I stop paying my mortgage now?
or should I wait.
Maybe we should be ENCOURAGING SAVING!

do dem's do anything but spend?

NOBAMA

Posted by: USA3 | October 13, 2008 5:30 PM | Report abuse

Why is Obama hiding his birth certificate? his college transcripts? his mediacl records.

why is everything such a secret? what is he afraid of?

answer - the truth.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/10/this_could_be_the_game_changer.html

Posted by: king_of_zouk | October 13, 2008 5:29 PM | Report abuse

See the best Sarah Palin impersonations, short clip. Very Funny.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMebGbcC2Sg

See What they didnt show during the debate
What the media didnt cover, the debate outtakes. A tense moment between tom brokaw and John McCain.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mng0njC1D6c
watchdebate.com

Posted by: pastor123 | October 13, 2008 5:29 PM | Report abuse

I remember a poll in NH,
where obama was destined to beat clinton
by 11%....

Well Homies' he lost by 7%.....

hillary has damaged the bama brand,
tony rezko, william ayers, Acorn,
rev. Wright...

now they blame McCain????

the liberals will enjoy four more years
of the blame game.

NOBAMA

Posted by: USA3 | October 13, 2008 5:27 PM | Report abuse

Obama Proposes New Economic Measures??????This scambag has no Measures.He will say any BS just to get elected

Posted by: pro36 | October 13, 2008 5:24 PM | Report abuse

Obama broke the law when he bought that house in Chicago together with criminal REZKO.No wonder considering his Chicago MOB connections.Do we need the stinking criminal in OUR WH?

Posted by: pro36 | October 13, 2008 5:23 PM | Report abuse

ShawninMI I dont care.Kiss my a.s and go to hell

Posted by: pro36 | October 13, 2008 5:23 PM | Report abuse

McCain had a free ticket to the Naval Academy. And to flight school. And to being a squadron commander. And to the cushy job of aide-de-camp to Congress where he learned the good life of money, power, booze, attractive women,lobbyist's favors, etc.

All from the kick in the ass he got from his family's "service to America". He shouldn't be faulted for this. It's just a reward you get when you come from a well respectd military family in this country. Doors automatially open for you and mis-steps are easily overlooked and forgiven.
A serious Naval career wasn't in his game plan.

McCain had no interest in serving his country militarily as his father and grandfather did. He wanted the path of least resistance. And he took it.

Good for him. Nothing dishoborable. But nothing necessarily making him a good choice to be our President. His mavericky style is indicative of his past and his attitude to life. Again, not really good on an application you're filling out to be President. He has risen to his own level of competance.

/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/

What's your point Sherlock? If McCain were on the board of some defense contracting corporations and WASN'T running for president as the 'character candidate' trading on his military experience (he has repeatedly stated that his military experience makes him the most qualified to be commander-in-chief), I wouldn't give a first or second thought to him. My point (which you seem to have missed) is simple: that even though we have the power to reject mediocre, unqualified candidates that are in many ways chosen for us by people/institutions that do not have our best interests at heart, we do not exercise that choice - which is a shame.

Posted by: clyde9 | October 13, 2008 5:23 PM | Report abuse

Vote Early

Vote Obama Biden

Vote Often Chicago since McCain calls us all corrupt anyway

Posted by: grandstreetfund | October 13, 2008 5:22 PM | Report abuse

Obama is the stinking scambag and muslim communist with the communist agenda for this great country.U brainless liberals just repeating this senseless Obama's BS Over and over again.Do we need the traitor muslim communist in OUR WH?"


Posted by: pro36 | October 13, 2008 5:22 PM | Report abuse

These polls are so biased.

FOr UN-biased poll results, go to
http://www.c-span.org/pdf/zogby/101308_poll.pdf

BTW- Headline reads
Obama lead declines.

I guess character DOES matter!

McCain/Palin 08

Posted by: blevins20061 | October 13, 2008 5:21 PM | Report abuse

tnmama, I'm not sure the premise of your argument is correct. I'd argue that we live in a time of increasing moral values. (In stark contrast to what the right wing fundamentalists would have you believe) Crime statistics from the 1980's to today show that there at least had been a significant drop in almost everything (at least until very recently (But let me remind you, Bush is still in power)). Its neat to note that the rates all began to drop around 1993 and continued until about 2001.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_the_United_States

Posted by: stevenmpalmer | October 13, 2008 5:21 PM | Report abuse

Pro 36 - I believe your a liberal who is just trying to incite hate. The way you write doesn't jive with right wing wackos. Just stop. Now.

Posted by: ShawninMI | October 13, 2008 5:21 PM | Report abuse

I'm not one to believe in prophetic revelations, but I read a 2008 prediction from Nostradamus, and it has the election ending in a tie. It also, predicts that the tensions on both sides of the aisle will be so bad that civil war (or something to that extent) will be threatening to break out over the U.S, but another election will be held (Or some other solution) to finally pick a winner, and that will quench the tensions a bit.

But this is the least of it, after this, natural disaster after natural disaster (Mainly Floods, and Earthquakes) will hit the U.S. It'll be so bad that 3 other countries will have to send aid to us. Our country will go bankrupt, mass starvation, and chaos will breakout all over our country, and I'm not sure if it'll recover.

Someone will take advantage of the U.S. crisis, (Nostradamus predicts that the World will be in crisis at this time also, and everyone will be crying out for someone to solve its problems), and will send aid, but this will be just a front for something more sinister. He will initially look like a Savior (Or Messiah like figure), and will fool everyone, but his intentions are to control people, and slavery will be implemented. He will have Middle Eastern ties.

I can't explain it all here, but you can find it by doing a search. (Nostradamusonline)

I won't even consider any of this unless there is a tie in the Electorial College Votes.

Posted by: alohais | October 13, 2008 5:21 PM | Report abuse

Less than two days after a report revealed that Sarah Palin abused her power as governor in the pursuit of a personal vendetta, Grampy McCain and Side Show Palin hit the campaign trail again:
.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/10/AR2008101003167.html?hpid=topnews
.


MCCAIN:
"As a senator I’ve seen the corrupt ways of Washington and the wasteful spending and abuses of power ... As president I’m going to end these abuses whatever it takes.


PALIN:
"As a senator, John McCain has seen the corrupt ways of Washington and the wasteful spending and the abuses of power in Washington and on Wall Street. And as president he’s going to end those abuses whatever it takes."


There are two things to take away from these remarks: first, that irony is not dead. And second, McCain and Palin really are singing from the same sheet of "Campaign Music Designed to BS the Listener."
.
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2008_10/015130.php
.


Congratulations Wingnuts, the McCain/Palin ticket is the first in American history in which both candidates were found to have violated ethics standards BEFORE a national election.


Mavericks!
.

Posted by: DrainYou | October 13, 2008 5:20 PM | Report abuse

I wonder how much better McCain would be doing if he hadn't picked Palin for VP. If he'd picked someone with national political experience, he could be pounding away at Obama's relative lack thereof. Watching Palin stumble through her one-on-one inteviews led many people to question McCain's judgement--which he could ill-afford.

I think, barring a huge mistake by the Obama campaign, or a major international event, Obama will be in the White House in January. I'm glad this election will be over in three weeks and a day!

Posted by: Heron | October 13, 2008 5:20 PM | Report abuse

Obama Proposes New Economic Measures??????This scambag has no Measures.He will say any BS just to get elected

Posted by: pro36 | October 13, 2008 5:19 PM | Report abuse

Obama broke the law when he bought that house in Chicago together with criminal REZKO.No wonder considering his Chicago MOB connections.Do we need the stinking criminal in OUR WH?

Posted by: pro36 | October 13, 2008 5:18 PM | Report abuse

Obama is the stinking scambag and muslim communist with the communist agenda for this great country.U brainless liberals just repeating this senseless Obama's BS Over and over again.Do we need the traitor muslim communist in OUR WH?"

Posted by: pro36 | October 13, 2008 5:16 PM | Report abuse

old mcsame will never get it, we're not measuring for the drapes, we're gonna throw them OUT so everyone can finally see inside....it's called transperancy....

Posted by: gq_online | October 13, 2008 5:15 PM | Report abuse

Its Early Voting Time....:)
Obama Biden 08

Posted by: grandstreetfund | October 13, 2008 5:14 PM | Report abuse

Steven,

It just shows the sad state of affairs in this country if over 50% of the U.S actually votes for Obama in November. It's lamentable that so many have become consumed with being "tolerant" of immoral practices and lifestyles that they don't see the damage done.

Posted by: tnmama | October 13, 2008 5:13 PM | Report abuse

Oh, oh another inportant relationship of THE ONE very questionable. now the father-son aspect for little Barack is under the lights. a known ped.

Is there one normal person in this charlatans past?

For seven years, Obama had a "father-son" relationship with Frank Marshall Davis,

Posted by: king_of_zouk | October 13, 2008 5:12 PM | Report abuse

JOHN MCCAIN, TRAITOR TO HIS COUNTRY, COLLABORATOR WITH THE ENEMY, MILITARY DISGRACE.
Ted Sampley, a Vietnam Veteran and former Green Beret, issued a CHALLENGE to John McCain "If you can show us that the information presented in our mailer is untruthful . . . we will Stand Down" This CHALLENGE was issued during an interview with INSIDE EDITION on January 17, 2008.
John, family members of Vietnam POW/MIA(s) have been waiting for more then 14 years for you to have the courage to face them eye to eye in front of the American Public - Here is your opportunity for some "STRAIGHT TALK." Stop hiding behind your fabricated "War Hero" persona. You know we can prove your collaborations with declassified government documents . . . It is time for the American people to get to know the REAL John McCain - the John McCain that the POW/MIA families witnessed during the 1991-93 US Senate Select Committee on POW/MIA Affairs .
Bring It On John! HERE IS OUR NUMBER 252-527-0442
*********** ************* ************** *********** ***********
Activists accused McCain of stonewalling the release of POW records because they contained evidence he had collaborated with the North Vietnamese.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MUY9S6iCvk

Posted by: popasmoke | October 13, 2008 5:12 PM | Report abuse

test

Posted by: popasmoke | October 13, 2008 5:11 PM | Report abuse

"Skolniks" asks a lot of interesting "what if's" but the one which concerns me is what if John McCain had ever, once, attended a church sermon celebrating his whiteness and railing against black people? Rhetorical question... I reckon his campaign might have lasted a day or two. For someone with so many choices, it's interesting that Obama chose to not only be black, but very black, militantly black. This contrasts to say, Tiger Woods, who thinks the whole issue so silly he would identify himself as a "Cablasian".

A man's choices of identifications and associations say much. What Barak Obama says to me is he doesn't like me because I am white. If black people don't like racism then they might stop perpetuating it.

Posted by: JB_Smith | October 13, 2008 5:06 PM | Report abuse

To buttress her folksy image, Sarah Palin has been repeating the claim that she is just like Mr. Joe Six Pack. Her half truths, outright lies, dubious claims of accomplishments and self labeled reform candidate despite Troopergate, makes her closer to Joe Isuzu than anything else.

Posted by: istupazjr | October 13, 2008 5:05 PM | Report abuse

Campaigning is just a big game for all the news services and various media outlets. Everyone digs for the smallest bit or bite of information and then it's turned over and stretched in an unbelievable manner. Of course it's biased and has been for years. Obama is a media darling - crowned as the future prince by Oprah. Don't be foolish - step away from the media hot air and look at the candidates before all the insanity began - who did what during their service and how did they serve? Vote for that person. This is what I've done. John McCain has served well for years - he doesn't vote "present" in order to avoid squeamish situations. He knows the horrors of war - he is not a hawk but he also knows that there are many factions that truly hate America and the freedoms we have and enjoy. American interests must be protected. Both Bill and Hillary Clinton both had deep admiration for John McCain - Obama never has. He doesn't because he knows that McCain has the strength of character that has been honed and refined for years. The distorted picture that the supposedly serious media has painted of McCain is laughable except that people believe the nonsense. Vote for McCain.

Posted by: ShawninMI | October 13, 2008 5:05 PM | Report abuse

I said it last week and I'll say it again. You people are not changing any minds here. Everyone on this blog has made their choice!

Pro36: You are completely useless, ignorant, hateful and flat out stupid. Stop Blogging, no one likes you and you are wasting bandwith. A nice tall glass of arsenic is the perfect cure for you.

Posted by: beaversrus | October 13, 2008 5:04 PM | Report abuse

People like McCain and Bush are carefully guided and managed by their families, and numerous other persons and institutions, to obtain positions of influence and power regardless of their ability to do so well. This includes the massaging and even fabrication of background stories, educations at pretigious institutions and similar illusory 'achievements' that make dimwits with no respect for their own freedom (aka most US citizens) admire these people and consequently vote for them.
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McCain had a free ticket to the Naval Academy. And to flight school. And to being a squadron commander. And to the cushy job of aide-de-camp to Congress where he learned the good life of money, power, booze, attractive women,lobbyist's favors, etc.

All from the kick in the ass he got from his family's "service to America". He shouldn't be faulted for this. It's just a reward you get when you come from a well respectd military family in this country. Doors automatially open for you and mis-steps are easily overlooked and forgiven.
A serious Naval career wasn't in his game plan.

McCain had no interest in serving his country militarily as his father and grandfather did. He wanted the path of least resistance. And he took it.

Good for him. Nothing dishoborable. But nothing necessarily making him a good choice to be our President. His mavericky style is indicative of his past and his attitude to life. Again, not really good on an application you're filling out to be President. He has risen to his own level of competance.

Posted by: patrick10 | October 13, 2008 5:03 PM | Report abuse

king_of_zouk, your logic is hilarious. Is that how cause and effect works? You just choose two things and claim that they are related? By your own logic, the markets around the world today are reacting to the +1 for Obama -2 for McCain that Gallop released today. A possible actual reason the market went up today could be because Paulson has a plan for what to do with the 700 billion.

tnmama, If everyone who now supports Obama were truely a liberal as you say, then the Republican party has no chance in winning as 50% or more of the population support him. I am one of those mythical people of which you speak. I was a Republican, I voted for McCain in the 2000 primary, there is no way I'd do it again.

Lastly, fundamentalists, we can see that you are posting the same stuff over and over again. Doing so does not make your inane musings anymore correct, it just makes you look more ignorant.

Posted by: stevenmpalmer | October 13, 2008 5:03 PM | Report abuse

Many of us have known this stuff for years. It is what gets us up in the morning and working 15 hours a day on the Obama campaign. Mccain can never be allowed to get near the white house. I can tell you bad things Mccain that is not in the article. Like Mccains comment how blacks were good in Viet Nam for finding land mines. This guy is no damn good from start to finish.

============
There is a sobering article in Rolling Stone about the real McCain:
http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/23316912/makebelieve_maverick/print

Posted by: kpeacen | October 13, 2008 4:44 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: popasmoke | October 13, 2008 5:02 PM | Report abuse

Comparing liberal vrs. conservative is not an intelligence comparison, it is more about philosophical views of life, self and society. Conservatives, by definition, are more concerned about security and maintaining status quo, and are not as curious to explore options and different opinions. They want everything black and white, right and wrong. It would be great if life were that simple.

Posted by: bflagg | October 13, 2008 5:02 PM | Report abuse

pixiedust, did you get your name from Obama's economic ideas?

Or maybe his record of achievement.

could be his long list of respectable friends.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | October 13, 2008 5:01 PM | Report abuse

Frank,

Good for you. I wasn't even born in 1980, so what matters to me is what is going on TODAY. No, I won't agree with you, because I have yet to see how an Obama presidency will in any way benefit our ailing country.

Think about it: If you were CEO of a flailing corporation and had a choice between an older gentleman with a proven record, or a young, charismatic man who's only plan was to bring "change" to the company, who would you chose? Its' a no brainer to me.

You're right, hard times are ahead. We need a proven leader to get us out of this mess, and that leader is not Obama.

Posted by: tnmama | October 13, 2008 4:59 PM | Report abuse

Eight years is not the half of it. All this started back in 1981. If Jimmy Carter had been reelected in 1980 we would be clean, green and keen now. Instead we have had a couple of decades of a film set illusion that everything is "fine". Suddenly we realize that it is all just a pile of junk made of muslin and paint, highly flammable and no protection against the real world.

Who really cares if your gay neighbors have a wedding? Human life begins and ends with breath, not conception and other people's reproductive decisions are none of my business until there are living, breathing children in the world. But somehow the illusion machine has convinced Americans that these are issues that should be considered seriously when selecting who will represent us in government.

Give me a unified government again that will deal with the things government is intended to deal with, like education, public health, transportation, monetary policy and environmental preservation. Forget about ACORN, the real fraud is our current government. Show time is over, time for real life now.

Posted by: ccairnes | October 13, 2008 4:59 PM | Report abuse

I don't see how McCain can turn his campaign around. He thought bringing Obama down by associating him with Ayers would counter Obama associating McCain with Bush. There is a fundamental difference betwwen the two. When Obama associates McCain with Bush, Bush is a very well known figure who is very much disliked by many. When McCain chose Ayers, not too many people know who Ayers is or care about what he did 40 years ago. If Ayers was involved in terrorism like Timothy McVey in the recent past, it would have carried more weight with the general public. Now it looks like McCain just wanted to play dirty. The current poll numbers are a direct reflection of McCain's failure to undersand this main difference. McCain may think he has 9 lives like a cat. But people printed his 9th obituary when Sarah Palin went on CBS with Katie Couric. For McCain to turn this around he has to deliver a plan for the future as well as change peoples mind about Sarah Palin. Sarah Palin carries so much baggage, that even if people get a warm feeling about McCain, they are terrified of Sarah Palin being in office, should something happen to McCain.

There is hardly any political pundit who thinks McCain can turn this around. He does not have the ground crew to go after undecided voters in many states. A few new speeches in some obsolete old towns in the east coast is not going to change the tide that Obama has created in his favor.

Posted by: JimFargo | October 13, 2008 4:58 PM | Report abuse

Bcamp55 ... I'm an entrepreur in business and a technology executive who provides jobs to hundreds.

As stated, I voted for Reagan in 1980 and shook his hand on election night. The current Republican party is not the Republican party of the 1980's and has singlehandedly destroyed decades of prosperity.

Only a fool, or a zealot, would vote for another four years of the current administration.

Posted by: frankinbend | October 13, 2008 4:57 PM | Report abuse

...well that's not saying much

Posted by: ChicagoMachine08 | October 13, 2008 4:55 PM | Report abuse

pro36 and zouk are rethug trolls - probably paid by the GOP to post garbage on these websites. If they haven't been paid, perhaps off their meds. Ignore them.

Posted by: pixiedust1 | October 13, 2008 4:55 PM | Report abuse

Bcamp,

Couldn't have said it better myself!

Posted by: tnmama | October 13, 2008 4:54 PM | Report abuse

tnmama

I shook hands with Ronald Reagan on election night in 1980 when I was a a volunteer for the campus Republican movement.

You need to leave your diatribe and rhetoric at the door. We won't agree here as your mind is as closed as 'W's worldview and Palin's intellectual curiosity.

There will be a change in November. Unfortunately, the change will come at the expense and burden of a broken economy at the helm of the Bush/Cheney legacy.

Hard times are ahead ... I cannot give the helm to the unsteady leadership of McCain (who I used to respect) and the Theocracy of Palin.

You will either have to help pick up the weight or hide in a dark room with Hannity, Limbaugh and FOX.

Posted by: frankinbend | October 13, 2008 4:53 PM | Report abuse

Funny argument... "college professor" is wholly dependent on other people to survive.

Your lack of experience with academia suggests that you aren't very educated yourself. Which, on the other hand, WOULD explain why you can't draw your own connection between NOLA residents and blue votes. If you got screwed by the Red Team, you'll probably try your luck with the Blues, wouldn't ya?

Posted by: ChicagoMachine08 | October 13, 2008 4:52 PM | Report abuse

frankinbend writes
notice the correlation of educaton to political leaning? Why .. the more educated you become the more 'liberal' you become.
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Actually what is abundantly more evident to me is that the more wholly dependent you are on others to provide for every facet of your life - the more likely you are to be a liberal.

UNION MEMBERS
CONVICTS
WELFARE RECIPIENTS
COLLEGE PROFESSORS
THE HOMELESS
NEW ORLEANS RESIDENTS

Btw - When you’re trying to childishly impress everyone with how E-D-U-C-A-T-E-D you are, you might want to at least spell E-D-U-C-A-T-I-O-N correctly.

Posted by: Bcamp55 | October 13, 2008 4:49 PM | Report abuse

Rataylor1, wouldn't you be happy if Obama changed his tune about peace? Then you'd get the warmonger president you so desire!

Oh when will the conservative base open up a 20th century history book...

Posted by: ChicagoMachine08 | October 13, 2008 4:48 PM | Report abuse

Frank,

You sir, are ridiculously incorrect in your assumptions. I guess that education of yours didn't teach you that there are other intelligent who value hard work and morals (Those are called Conservatives by the way).

I am also educated (Degree in Mass Communications) and happen to have studied the liberal media bias at great length. Something I'm sure your degree in Engineering doesn't allow you to grasp.

Posted by: tnmama | October 13, 2008 4:47 PM | Report abuse

Yo pro36, your vet called. It's time for your rabies booster shot.

Posted by: Roofelstoon | October 13, 2008 4:46 PM | Report abuse

There is a sobering article in Rolling Stone about the real McCain:
http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/23316912/makebelieve_maverick/print

Posted by: kpeacen | October 13, 2008 4:44 PM | Report abuse

actually I think the last number is the most troublesome for Mccain.

he is the riskier choice...

that makes it VERY hard for him.

combined with his attacks making his numbers sink (as they should even though it is Palin's radical and looney attacks that are killing them)

he is stuck

he suddenly has to actually get good at the issues...kind of hard when he chose Baneya Fyfe as his running mate.

Posted by: klondike2 | October 13, 2008 4:42 PM | Report abuse

"What I do know is that one of my high school buddies went to the USNA, which has some pretty stringent admission requirements. I also know that, by the time graduation comes around, there's something of a competition among midshipmen to see who can come in last. Its one of those bizarre traditions that insular places like Annapolis seem to develop. Point being: Senator McCain's placement in his class might be more indicative of the misplaced priorities of a 22 yr old than of a lack of smarts. There are plenty of reasons to argue against Sen McCain for President. His position in his graduating class is not one of them."

NONSENSE!

McCain and Bush have nearly identical undistinguished academic careers. Bush didn't earn his way into Yale but rather got in on a legacy admission. Ditto for McCain into the USNA (McCain's father and grandfather were both 4-star admirals for the USN). Bush did nothing at the highly grade-inflated Yale and got the so-called 'Gentleman's C' given to virtually anyone with connections that pays their way through but does little to no work. Similar deal with McCain at the USNA - except there's a chance McCain earned his graduation and actually had to achieve some minimal level - unlike Bush.

People like McCain and Bush are carefully guided and managed by their families, and numerous other persons and institutions, to obtain positions of influence and power regardless of their ability to do so well. This includes the massaging and even fabrication of background stories, educations at pretigious institutions and similar illusory 'achievements' that make dimwits with no respect for their own freedom (aka most US citizens) admire these people and consequently vote for them.

So go ahead, dumb-*ss, vote for the modern day equivalent of the 'Down's Syndrome King' if you like, I'll vote for someone with some ACTUAL excellence and accomplishment under their belt - whomever that may be.

Posted by: clyde9 | October 13, 2008 4:42 PM | Report abuse

It isn't just you. Many analysts agree O would be up by 20+ were it not for the issue of which we must not speak.

Fer sure, fer sure. Couldn't agree more!!!
Well stated!

Posted by: patrick10 | October 13, 2008 4:40 PM | Report abuse

Ah pro36 ... you NeoFacist ... err .. NeoCon.

The Republican rally fires are buring with the pile of books that Bush and Palin have never read.

Don't forget to close the door to your dormicile which reads 'Arbeit macht frei' schwienhund.

Posted by: frankinbend | October 13, 2008 4:39 PM | Report abuse

Hmm,
Which is worse.. attending an ACORN rally two years ago, or having 20 years worth of ties with them. That's not to mention the $800,000 Obama has donated to them to "get out the vote" this year. It's great to see his money being put to good use.. 72 times for the same potential voter!!

Posted by: tnmama | October 13, 2008 4:38 PM | Report abuse

McCain needs to step up the questions about Obama, he is definately hiding who and what he is really is. Yes, Obama is a great speaker and can command a large crowd and he talks of peace. This does not make a president of the United States. Heads up people! he is NOT the messia. Another great leader also possesed these traits and he was also put upon an alter, his name was Hitler. Do not let yourselves be fooled by a silver tounge and good looks. If history repeats itself again which it usually does Mr. Obama will change his tune about peace and equality when if he gets in office. As far as President bush being at fault for the economy, liberals need not look further than their elected officials in Congress to see who has really been causing the problems. President Bush deserves a personal thankyou from every AMERICAN for keeping us safe. If Obama gets in office we will be fighting a war on our own soil instead of overseas. Then everyone can go around wining about that. I would like to give you one last view of the liberals who are supporting Obama. They are like lambs being led to slaughter by their beloved master.

Posted by: Rataylor1 | October 13, 2008 4:38 PM | Report abuse

The MTV crowd is not going to be convinced using substance. They depend on the 10 second sound bite, i.e. "change". One word, monosyllabic utterances work best for these folks.

Keep in mind, when Democrats needs votes - where do they head to? Prisons, homeless shelters, labor unions, etc. All fine examples of the finest America has to offer I'm sure; just not the brightest bulbs nor the most self motiivated in the room.

If it ain't free or very easy - forget it.

An appeal to review records as McCain asked during the last debate is pointless. That would actually take effort and an understanding of what each person’s records indicates as it relates to a lot of information. TRUST MEEEEEEEE. That is just waaaaaaay toooooooooo much like work for your typical liberal "show me the welfare check" crowd.

Posted by: Bcamp55 | October 13, 2008 4:37 PM | Report abuse

"... the issue we don't like to speak about ..."

Posted by: broadwayjoe | October 13, 2008 4:33 PM | Report abuse "--


STOP IT. The word is Volderm(err) race. Yea race. Hey I have problems with it to - but that's my personal cross to bear.

Race.

Posted by: DonJasper | October 13, 2008 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Once again McErratic has changed his message, for the good I'll grant you. Talk about the "change candidate".

Really McErratic's problem is that to appeal to the middle he must torch his base (actually Bush's base). They're not going to like it.

Posted by: Roofelstoon | October 13, 2008 4:36 PM | Report abuse

And the fact that she lied all weekend about what the Branchflower Report actually said?


This is truly remarkable. They find she has vilolated ethical rules by she and in allowing her husband to run a shadow government out of their kitchen and she is in complete denial.

Now she knows everything and Alaska's First Dude have done on this issue. They know all the conversations they have had. They know all the phones calls, the emails, the meetings the committee wanted to know about and how they planned to hide it all.

So when the committee announces they are not going to seek criminal investigations but instead slap her on the wrist her response is incredible.

"See, we did, er, I mean, I, did nothing wrong. Nothing illegal, nothing unethical, absolutely nothing wrong."

I guess in Alaska there is nothing wrong with being clever enough to abuse your office of governor and not get caught with a fist full of cookies in the cookie jar.

I bet Dick Cheney wrote her an email while he had a beaming smile on his face.

"Sarah --

You will do just find in the Vice Presidency seat. I will leave you my Rolodex and my email list of friends and contacts. They are all looking forward to doing business with you. Wink, wink. Nudge, nudge!!

signed "Shot Gun" Dick

ps: Do you need a good gun cabinet? I'll leave mine here if you can use it.

Posted by: patrick10 | October 13, 2008 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Obama broke the law when he bought that house in Chicago together with criminal REZKO.No wonder considering his Chicago MOB connections.Do we need the stinking criminal in OUR WH?

Posted by: pro36 | October 13, 2008 4:34 PM | Report abuse

--"Obama is the stinking scambag and muslim communist with the communist agenda for this great country.U brainless liberals just repeating this senseless Obama's BS Over and over again.Do we need the traitor muslim communist in OUR WH?"


Posted by: pro36 | October 13, 2008 4:30 PM | Report abuse "--

Yup - Deal with it.

Posted by: DonJasper | October 13, 2008 4:34 PM | Report abuse

McCain made a Faustian bargain when he embraced the "agents of intolerance". If a politician's principles are his soul, that's what McCain traded for an office,that hopefully, he will never attain. This is not the same McCain of eight years ago. He has adopted more and more of Bush's tactics, listened too much to too many of Bush's advisors and has slowly morphed into Bush.

Posted by: stever2 | October 13, 2008 4:33 PM | Report abuse

It isn't just you. Many analysts agree O would be up by 20+ were it not for the issue of which we must not speak. As it is, he is up 10 but more importantly polls, and confirming on-ground information, show him ahead in states representing 277 EVs without counting VA, OH, and FL, all three, likely O wins.
____

"I truly believe Obama's lead would be more like 15-20 points if the issue we don't like to speak about wasn't taken into consideration."

Posted by: broadwayjoe | October 13, 2008 4:33 PM | Report abuse

Rasmussen:

10/11 Obama +7
10/12 Obama +6
10/13 Obama +5

Notice a trend?

the truth hurts.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | October 13, 2008 4:33 PM | Report abuse

--"I love it! Thank you liberal media for reporting more irresponsibly biased propaganda.

Posted by: tnmama | October 13, 2008 4:27 PM | Report abuse "--

I'll have you know that I happen to agree with Esquire magazine: Halle Berry is the sexist woman alive.

Posted by: DonJasper | October 13, 2008 4:32 PM | Report abuse

tnmama ... notice the correlation of educaton to political leaning? Why .. the more educated you become the more 'liberal' you become.

Could it be that critical thinking brings unique solutions, compassion and understanding?

I'm definitely liberal, I'm definitely educated (degree in engineering) ..oh and here is a mindblower for the few brain cells you have that engage with your Amiglia ...I am a veteran (Navy Diver).

Scary things happen when you crack open books, listen to public radio, and realize that Hannity is a blowhard.

Posted by: frankinbend | October 13, 2008 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Obama is the stinking scambag and muslim communist with the communist agenda for this great country.U brainless liberals just repeating this senseless Obama's BS Over and over again.Do we need the traitor muslim communist in OUR WH?"

Posted by: pro36 | October 13, 2008 4:30 PM | Report abuse

McCain attended ACORN rally!

HAHAHA!!!


Miami, Florida – February 20, 2006 ―
"Leaders from a diverse array of sectors will hold a rally in Miami on Thursday, February 23, 2006, in support of comprehensive immigration reform in an effort to keep immigration reform at the forefront of the public debate. Leaders from both political parties, immigrant communities, labor, business, and religious organizations will gather to call on Washington to enact workable reform."

"The rally will feature Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) as the headline speaker along with elected officials, immigrants and key local and national leaders. Sen. McCain is one of the chief sponsors of the Secure America and Orderly Immigration Act; bipartisan, comprehensive immigration reform legislation introduced last Congress and scheduled for consideration by the Senate in the coming weeks. A similar rally with Sen. McCain is planned for New York City on February 27 [...]"

"The rally in Miami is being sponsored by the New American Opportunity campaign (NAOC) in partnership with ACORN, Catholic Legal Services - Archdiocese of Miami, Florida Immigrant Advocacy Center, Florida Immigrant Coalition, Miami Dade College, People for the American Way/Mi Familia Vota en Acción, Service Employees International Union, and UNITE HERE."
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http://www.mdc.edu/Home/Press/rally.htm


That was a great event, and I'm glad McCain headlined it. But it does make it a bit more difficult for his campaign to press this line of attack, doesn't it? There's even a picture of Johnny McBush attending the rally, live and in person:
.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/1008/Acorn_pushes_back_hugs_McCain.html?showall


The McCain campaign is one of a kind. Every time it settles on a line of attack, it always undermines it days later. It's almost like McCain hired the Three Stooges to run his campaign strategy.
.

Posted by: DrainYou | October 13, 2008 4:30 PM | Report abuse

--"[snip] the most asinine thing he did was the pick of his VP, i mean that says a lot about the judgement of this man

Posted by: capskip | October 13, 2008 3:59 PM | Report abuse "--

"Shackled to a corpse" is the way I would put it. Remove the Evangelicals from the GOP and what have you got?

Yea - that's the problem. No one else knows either. A little time in the wilderness to decide what they're about will be a good thing.

They (rank-and-file members) either need to choose Evangelical candidates, or not. Choosing McCain (non-Evangelical), but requiring him to appoint an Evangelical VP is a looser.

I do think McCain preferred Lieberman - but the litmus test of 'Pro-Life' required by the party - forces his hand in another direction.

Personally - I'd like to see a libertarian movement (GOP 2.0?) gain some traction.

Posted by: DonJasper | October 13, 2008 4:28 PM | Report abuse

Obama Proposes New Economic Measures??????This scambag has no Measures.He will say any BS just to get elected


Posted by: pro36 | October 13, 2008 4:06 PM |

_________________________

pro36 - either you are a plant by the Republican campaign, which seems unlikely, because I can't believe they would associate with such comments, or you seriously need some mental help... I mean that seriously. You are way to confused and angry. Please, talk to someone who you think can help or seek professional advice....

Posted by: paulstewart | October 13, 2008 4:28 PM | Report abuse

pro36 ... your comments below are entertaining!

"Obama is the stinking scambag and muslim communist with the communist agenda for this great country.U brainless liberals just repeating this senseless Obama's BS Over and over again.Do we need the traitor muslim communist in OUR WH?"

I think it's time for you to go find your stapler ... 'the ratio of people to cake is too big!'.

Really, a Muslim Communist? As in a Nasser who found his religion again? Definitely a hilarious statement.

Posted by: frankinbend | October 13, 2008 4:28 PM | Report abuse

I love it! Thank you liberal media for reporting more irresponsibly biased propaganda. If all goes well, your plan will back fire on you as Obamatrons count on a landslide thi Election Day and end up not showing up at the polls.

P.S, The "I was a Republican, but now I'm voting for Obama" farce is getting old. If you love Obama so much, at least have the guts to admit you're a liberal, always have been a liberal, and probably always will be a liberal. Unless you're just too ashamed to do so.. I would be!

Posted by: tnmama | October 13, 2008 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Obama broke the law when he bought that house in Chicago together with criminal REZKO.No wonder considering his Chicago MOB connections.Do we need the stinking criminal in OUR WH?


Posted by: pro36 | October 13, 2008 4:27 PM | Report abuse

YES! Palin is a HUGE ISSUE.

There is something seriously off-base with that woman.

It's called "narcissistic personality disorder".

Posted by: mavisdarling | October 13, 2008 4:25 PM | Report abuse

I am a registered independent who worked as an unpaid volunteer on John McCain's campaign back in 2000. What appealed to me then was his record of honorable service, his willingness to buck the National GOP leadership and his honest approach to the media and the electorate. I saw in him an infinitely better choice than the other GOP candidates and the Democratic candidates as well. Sadly, we know who won that election.

In 2008, I still admire McCain's honorable service to his country, but in every other way he has disappointed me. In order to win the nomination, he retreated on many of his 'maverick' policies and began to kowtow to the extreme right wing of the GOP. Since the convention, he has continued to distance himself from what drew independents and right-leaning moderates like myself to him, instead adopting more and more neocon language and positions on the issues. (Which, according to this latest poll, is *NOT* the direction that the majority of the electorate want this country going in. Give it up Far Right, you do not represent this country!) I have also seen him flounder around, abandoning the 'straight talk express' approach and myopically choosing Palin as his running mate. Admittedly, a VP candidate is most often chosen to "round out" the ticket, but Palin has proven to be a disaster to the GOP ticket, with even conservatives calling for her to step down.

While I do not think that McCain would do a bad job as President, the fact that he felt like he had to sell his soul to the far right in order to win the WH lost him my vote and the votes of many like me, and quite possibly the election. I feel sorry for whoever does win though. What a mess Bush and Co. have left us.

Mr. McCain, if you or any of your campaign staff even read the Washington Post and you come across this comment, I have a very important thing to say to you. You've lost me as a voter, (and those who think like me) unless you disavow the far right, get back to being honest with us and the media, stop frantically searching for the latest way to smear an otherwise decent and honorable opponent and come back to what made you an attractive candidate for my vote; honesty, service and a willingness to recognize that although the far right may be vocal, they make up only 16% of the total electorate. Run on behalf of the rest of us, not them.

Thank you.

Posted by: Daskalosistoria | October 13, 2008 4:24 PM | Report abuse

In his new stump speech, McCain should have said, "We cannot spend the next four WEEKS as we have spent much of the last eight: waiting for our luck to change." Now, truly, McCain just looks erratic, and shackled with a VP candidate already found to have abused her power as a governor.

Posted by: AKwatchman | October 13, 2008 4:23 PM | Report abuse

To Pro36 - Do you have a point or are you a hate monger like Palin?

It is time for this country to put the hate spewed by the nutcases behind us. McCain picked Palin like he picks the issue of the day. He does it by what makes his blood boil. This country needs leadership. I am a Libertarian, I did preferred Hillary but this country does NOT need the hate.

We need to elect Obama and be done with the Republican Party of hate and immorality. For a party claiming to be made up of religious values, I am surprised that hate mongering has become a godly virtue. Oh but I forget the god that Palin prays to is a hateful, and vengeful god! -- Todd..

Posted by: sydney2 | October 13, 2008 4:22 PM | Report abuse

skolniks wrote:

"This is what racism does. It covers up,
rationalizes and minimizes positive qualities in
one candidate and emphasizes negative qualities
in another when there is a color difference."

I agree with the rest of your post but to say that this is about racism is a gross oversimplification. I agree that there is a small percentage of voters who will dismiss Obama out of hand because of his racial background. Perhaps 2 or 3 percent of McCain's votes will come from those voters.

What this election is about from the Republican side is power and greed. They want to keep to the stranglehold they have had on this country for 8 years. They want to continue to spend obscene amounts of money on an interventionist, pointless war based on lies. They want to continue to profiteer on that war. The Iraq war years have been great for defense contractors in general and Halliburton in particular.

They also want to take the values that they espouse but in general DO NOT live by, and shove them down or up the orifice of your choice.

So, no, in general it is not about race.

I supported Hillary Clinton in the primaries and I still believe she was the best choice. I was on the fence about who to vote for until the Palin choice. I consider myself a moderate. If McCain had picked Thompson, Hutchison, Huckabee or my favorite moderate Republican, Lamar Alexander, I would have considered voting for him. His choice of Palin made me choose Obama. It is a slap in the face of every moderate voter and every thinking person in this country that he chose her She is an intellectual lightweight and can do no more than spout neo-con homilies. If you want to see the real Sarah Palin, go to YouTube and watch the Couric interviews. Do you really want her sitting down with world leaders and representing your nation?

Anyway, I suppose I have digressed. Suffice is to say that this 54 year old white southerner is voting for Obama. I could care less what color he is. He does seem to have a brain and knows how to use it, unlike his opposition.

Posted by: thelastmoderate | October 13, 2008 4:22 PM | Report abuse

McCain is structurally unsound. That is the problem. Look at his choice for Veep, that says it all. Look at his confused economic ideas, that says it all.

McCain has mis-underestimated the impact of race on this race. And he was stupid enough to try to use 100% negative campaigning when the whole world is falling down around him.

Obama is the right man for the job. McCain is not. It is clear for any thinking person following what is going on even with one eye closed.

Posted by: paulstewart | October 13, 2008 4:21 PM | Report abuse

Well, McCain needs to do a complete rebirth to get away from Bush.

The "reformers" language and the "maverick" language is really dumb. I guess it appeals to the base, but neither Palin and McCain are reformers. You can Rove your way all around it and that may work for some, but it just isn't true. And worse you have a VP who some call a pit bull, but she's yapping lies until she is blue in the face and it's embarrassing to watch it now. Who is writing this Looney Tune?

For McCain, first, how is he separating himself from Bush? He is glued at the hip. McCain has a political platform on his website that is a Bush platform (except for recognizing global warming AND having an abortion policy right of Bush). Huh??? In addition, the RNC are filled with all of the same Bush-loving Republicans in power. How are you going to get rid of those people? These guys run the party. And how do you get rid of Mrs. Palin- she is so right wing, an amateur, and nutty? Noway is he dumping Palin. It's too bad that he didn't bring on a non-Bush moderate for a VP.

Posted by: lucy2008 | October 13, 2008 4:21 PM | Report abuse

Obama is the stinking scambag and muslim communist with the communist agenda for this great country.U brainless liberals just repeating this senseless Obama's BS Over and over again.Do we need the traitor muslim communist in OUR WH?

Posted by: pro36 | October 13, 2008 4:21 PM | Report abuse

pro36, you are the reason Obama is winning. Keep up the good work!


Posted by: TheDiplomat | October 13, 2008 4:20 PM | Report abuse

I want to add one more thing as to why McCain is behind - The Palin factor. I do think she has also contributed to McCain's falling in the polls. People are not as stupid as McCain thought, especially women. Palin continues to prove she is clueless and actually quite dangerous for many reasons - her lack of knowledge and inquisitiveness, her use of divisive rhetoric, her fear and lack of understanding of science, global warming and a very radical so-called "Christian" perspective that would try to impose her narrow_minded and focused views on the country if ever elected. She is totally an anti-woman.

With people like Pro 36, McCain still has a lot of work to do. Obama is not a Muslim or a communist so get over it. FYI-communism and socialism are different - and McCain backed socialism with his vote on the bailout. Europe has many socialist programs that work quite well- National Health Care for one. Plus, it took Gordon Brown's move yesterday, not Paulson's, to move the market up almost 1000 points today. seems like the market has a lot more confidence in the EU than the US.

Posted by: rivegauche1 | October 13, 2008 4:20 PM | Report abuse

Obama down a point today, Mccain up a point today.

Market reacts with approval - up over 800.

Two more days and Mccain pulls ahead again and our money comes back.

how curious that no one figured out that an Obama president would cost us all so much even before he is elected.

It could end up costing a lot more with the rubber stamp/empty brain Pelousy and reid as cohorts in crime.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | October 13, 2008 4:20 PM | Report abuse

When people (clueless people I might add) keep asking what has Obama done?

Well one thing you cannot deny(clueless people will of course) is Obama has managed a well organized team set out to win the presidency. He first did it by beating the Clinton machine, a monumental task.

And now he is on the verge of beating the "Best and the Brightest" the Republican's have to offer. Of course Bush's eight years and the economy tanking have been a major influence. But Obama's management skills were still an essential component to his success.

McCain has had an erratic campaign with more changes in direction and strategy than Hillary has pant suits. You aren't going to win the White House, nor should you, if you are going to run a campaign like McCain's. It's difficult to take it seriously in light of all it ineptness. It has been a rudderless ship for some time now. An embarassing to watch at times. Even as a Democrat.

And a lot of this ineptness and confusion will be written about after its all over. And by Republican pundits especially.

America deserves better as Bernie Mac would have said. And for a change we are going to get the best there is.

Posted by: patrick10 | October 13, 2008 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Hate to sound anything like Cheney the devil, but McCain is in his last throes.

Posted by: hangdogit | October 13, 2008 4:18 PM | Report abuse

skolniks writes
Now, which team are you going to hire ?
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1) The one who has a record to view. I suppose it's easy to talk about change when pointing to anything you have accomplished yourself is impossible.

2) The one who has actually accomplished something for the American people and not been a lackey for his party learders. Obama has voted his party line 97% of the time on issues critical to the US. Using the same criteria, McCain has voted with his party 67% of the time.

3)The one who understands the economy enough to realize if you raise taxes on small business, jobs and wages are going to be lost.

Posted by: Bcamp55 | October 13, 2008 4:18 PM | Report abuse

Obama broke the law when he bought that house in Chicago together with criminal REZKO.No wonder considering his Chicago MOB connections.Do we need the stinking criminal in OUR WH?

Posted by: pro36 | October 13, 2008 4:18 PM | Report abuse

Please share this video for Barack Obama to at least 15 persons. Don't be fooled again do your part for the campaign.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6X2kjgdF1Xk

And contribute for Obama-Biden on the link below:

http://my.barackobama.com/page/dashboard/public/gGLLbD

Thanks.

Posted by: wembakoy | October 13, 2008 4:17 PM | Report abuse

Do you think it's possible that Sarah Palin's ethics issues in Alaska might be contributing to McCain's falling numbers?

And the fact that she lied all weekend about what the Branchflower Report actually said?

I dunno, but that was a rather LARGE issue with ME the past few days!

Posted by: mavisdarling | October 13, 2008 4:17 PM | Report abuse

As a lifelong Republican I have looked long and hard at the issues the candidates and the Bush and Reagan legacies and the current state of my beloved country and have reached the same conclusion as many other lifelong Republicans. I Quit! Obama 2008!

McPrune-time to retire!

Posted by: DaveMiner | October 13, 2008 4:11 PM | Report abuse

If it walks like hate speech and talks like hate speech then it is hate speech.

pro36: "Obama is the stinking scambag and muslim communist with the communist agenda for this great country.U brainless liberals just repeating this senseless Obama's BS Over and over again.Do we need the traitor muslim communist in OUR WH?"

res ipsa loquiter.

Posted by: robinlandseadel | October 13, 2008 4:10 PM | Report abuse

One of McCain's biggest problems is he has kept contradicting himself. The biggest example perhaps - claiming to "reach across the aisle" and be bipartisan, and running a very polarising campaign.

Another big credibility deficit - he and Palin keep accusing Obama/Biden of things that would be more appropriate as self accusations - distorting/lying, inexperience etc etc.

And one thing I haven't seen addressed - McCain claims that withdrawing troops from Iraq would be accepting defeat, losing. So how does one win in Iraq (it that were possible in an occupation)? Stay there forever?

Posted by: pdgnz | October 13, 2008 4:09 PM | Report abuse

Obama Proposes New Economic Measures??????This scambag has no Measures.He will say any BS just to get elected


Posted by: pro36 | October 13, 2008 4:06 PM | Report abuse

Obama is the stinking scambag and muslim communist with the communist agenda for this great country.U brainless liberals just repeating this senseless Obama's BS Over and over again.Do we need the traitor muslim communist in OUR WH?

Posted by: pro36 | October 13, 2008 4:05 PM | Report abuse

How exactly can McCain reasonably dissassociate himself from Bush when the architects of Bush's White House are running the McCain Campaign?

His campaign is full of Rove Proteges and it has become the retirement plan for the Bush White House employees. They even pulled Nicole Wallace out - Bush talking head to McCain talking head.

John McCain may have started out his own candidate but he is a cog in a machine that runs regardless of the candidate and at times it seems to be running over him.

Posted by: fairfaxva2 | October 13, 2008 4:02 PM | Report abuse

I truly believe Obama's lead would be more like 15-20 points if the issue we don't like to speak about wasn't taken into consideration. For instance, [from an unknown source]:

What if John McCain were a former president of the Harvard Law Review?
What if Barack Obama finished fifth from the bottom of his graduating class?

What if McCain were still married to the first woman he said 'I do' to?
What if Obama were the candidate who left his
first wife after she no longer measured up to his
standards?

What if Michelle Obama were a wife who not only
became addicted to pain killers, but acquired
them illegally through her charitable
organization?
What if Cindy McCain graduated from Harvard?

What if Obama were a member of the Keating-5*?
* The Keating Five were five United States
Senators accused of corruption in 1989, igniting
a major political scandal as part of the larger
Savings and Loan crisis of the late 1980s and
early 1990s.

What if McCain were a charismatic, eloquent speaker?

If these questions reflected reality, do you
really believe the election numbers would be as
close as they are?

This is what racism does. It covers up,
rationalizes and minimizes positive qualities in
one candidate and emphasizes negative qualities
in another when there is a color difference.

PS: What if Barack Obama had an unwed, pregnant teenage daughter....

You are The Boss... which team would you hire?

With America facing historic debt, 2 wars,
stumbling health care, a weakened dollar,
all-time high prison population, mortgage crises,
bank foreclosures, etc:

Educational Background:
Obama:
Columbia University - B.A. Political Science with
a Specialization in International Relations.
Harvard - Juris Doctor (J.D.) Magna Cum Laude

Biden:
University of Delaware - B.A. in History and B.A. in Political Science.
Syracuse University College of Law - Juris Doctor (J.D.)

vs.

McCain:
United States Naval Academy - Class rank: 894 of 899

Palin:
Hawaii Pacific University - 1 semester
North Idaho College - 2 semesters - general study
University of Idaho - 2 semesters - journalism
Matanuska-Susitna College - 1 semester
University of Idaho - 3 semesters - B.A. in Journalism

Now, which team are you going to hire ?

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Choose your friends by their character and your socks by their color.

Posted by: skolniks | October 13, 2008 4:02 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: parsonsscott | October 13, 2008 4:01 PM | Report abuse

McCain's record and "brand" are both responsible for his doing as well as he's doing right now. But, they will also make it nearly impossible for him to now distance himself from the previous eight years of the Bush Republican administration. When there is a scant record -as there is with Obama - the substance has to rely on what he says he will do rather than what he has already done. When there is a record, though, it holds more sway than a new epiphany of "change." People are correct to say we don't know for sure what Obama will do. But McCain's record of the last eight years is strong evidence of what he will do. And, only eight percent of Americans think that is the right path to take.

Posted by: rob15 | October 13, 2008 3:59 PM | Report abuse

The bottom line is McCain is not a very intelligent person Look the way he is been running this campaign, the most asinine thing he did was the pick of his VP, i mean that says a lot about the judgement of this man

Posted by: capskip | October 13, 2008 3:59 PM | Report abuse

Obama will UNITE AMERICA AGAIN.

MCCAIN WANTS YOU TO FIGHT EACH OTHER. for his benefit. He wants ANGER, LYNCH MOB RALLIES, SLANDER, HATE AND NOW....FIGHTING.

This is the last straw for any moderate Republican...nobody wants to be part of the radical fringe extremist GOP. They have burned the republican party to the ground and laughed.

We need a leader, one who unites, one who is smart like Obama more than EVER,

not an angry HOT HEAD knee-jerk has-been mccain who wants to pick FIGHTS with our country''s citizens.

IT IS SHOCKING THAT HE ENCOURAGES AMERICANS TO FIGHT EACH OTHER---DEEPEST SHAME ON THIS SHELL OF A MAN.

Posted by: sallieismydog | October 13, 2008 3:58 PM | Report abuse

Stonecreek writes
"John McCain may well be a fundamentally decent person with some sense of honor and integrity. But his finishing number 894 out of a graduating class of 897 was no abberation. The fellow just isn't that smart, and his campaign too closely reflects the lack of intellect at the top."

That's a popular statistic to point out. First I'll note that I don't know Senator McCain and therefore can't vouch for how smart he is or isn't. What I do know is that one of my high school buddies went to the USNA, which has some pretty stringent admission requirements. I also know that, by the time graduation comes around, there's something of a competition among midshipmen to see who can come in last. Its one of those bizarre traditions that insular places like Annapolis seem to develop. Point being: Senator McCain's placement in his class might be more indicative of the misplaced priorities of a 22 yr old than of a lack of smarts.

There are plenty of reasons to argue against Sen McCain for President. His position in his graduating class is not one of them.

Posted by: bsimon1 | October 13, 2008 3:52 PM | Report abuse

"Unless McCain can convince voters -- sometime VERY soon -- that he is not the heir to the Bush legacy, this race, judging from the Post/ABC data, is darn near unwinnable for McCain."

He has to do more than that. He has to both distance himself from the current administration and convince voters that he's better suited to lead is in a new direction than Senator Obama. Had he started down that path in May or June, he'd likely be in a much better position today. Instead he bought the Paris Hilton ad and selected Gov Palin as a running mate. With a campaign like that, its no wonder that he's now seen as the riskier choice.

Posted by: bsimon1 | October 13, 2008 3:46 PM | Report abuse

John McCain may well be a fundamentally decent person with some sense of honor and integrity. But his finishing number 894 out of a graduating class of 897 was no abberation. The fellow just isn't that smart, and his campaign too closely reflects the lack of intellect at the top. This guy's not a "maverick"; he is just what he has always been -- erratic due to his lack of capacity to fully understand complex situations.

Now, compared to Bush II, he's a mental giant. But Bush II had enough sense to understand that he could never understand, and thus delegated complex tasks to others. McCain is smarter than Bush, but just smart enough to fool himself.

Posted by: Stonecreek | October 13, 2008 3:45 PM | Report abuse

Eight percent like where we're headed as a country... What a disaster the GOP has been for our Republic.

Posted by: hiberniantears | October 13, 2008 3:45 PM | Report abuse

Poor McCain. He's built his own political trap. Having changed strategies so many times, even if he does what he desperately needs to do -- divorce the Republican Party -- it will be viewed as further evidence that he is erratic. All he can do by toning down his rhetoric and moving toward the middle is hope to save some R seats in Congress. I suspect that his campaign spending is already adapting to shoring up downballot Republicans rather than trying to win the Whitehouse.

Posted by: Stonecreek | October 13, 2008 3:36 PM | Report abuse

Gee, it took this much evidence for McCain to realize perhaps he needed to disavow Bush, focus on the future, and ditch the over-the-top personal attacks. Meanwhile, his campaign seems to run into every ditch imaginable.

Reminds me of someone currently in the White House.

Posted by: starthom | October 13, 2008 3:34 PM | Report abuse

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