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RNC Uses Ayers in New Ads

The Republican National Committee is launching television ads tomorrow in Indiana and Wisconsin that invoke the name of former Weather Underground member Bill Ayers and detail his ties to Barack Obama, the first such ads from either the national party committee or the campaign of John McCain so far in this election cycle.

Here's the ad:

"Senator Obama is crying foul and declaring his association with such individuals to be off limits," said Brad Todd who is overseeing the RNC's independent expenditure arm. "Fortunately, with the First Amendment still intact, he does not get to decide that."

The RNC ad is the latest -- and most serious -- attempt by Republicans to make Obama's association with Ayers an issue in the campaign. Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin began referencing Ayers in her stump speech earlier this week and the McCain campaign put out a web video detailing the connections between Obama and Ayers this morning.

Will putting the Ayers ad on television in battleground states work in raising questions about Obama? Or will it be seen as a last-ditch effort by a candidate trailing in the polls?

For more on playing the Ayers card, make sure to check out this post from earlier today.

By Chris Cillizza  |  October 9, 2008; 5:30 PM ET
Categories:  Eye on 2008  
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I haven't haeard Obama crying foul about thr GOP Ayers media assault. Obama is smart letting the GOP make fools of themselves by harping on something that's irrelevant.
The GOP are desperate. The recent McCain cries to be civl are a laugh considering he's still putting out ads that are below the belt.
Conservatives, your days are numbered.
This isn't a one party country, you have made a mess of things in the last eight years and your ticket this year is a joke.
You've lost the election and shown us what type of people you really are.
See ya in four years.(wink)

Posted by: tommyd60 | October 12, 2008 7:18 PM | Report abuse

Mr. Cillizza,

You should be ashamed of yourself. You just posted a "free" McCain inflammatory ad with you as the distributor and even providing text support. This is a proven set of lies and smears. You didn't even quote the other campaign nor did you "fact-checked" anything.

You are just a lazy hack. What tripe!

Posted by: lucy2008 | October 12, 2008 4:04 PM | Report abuse

Shame on the Palin-McBush campaign! By encouraging hate-mongering and racist baiting, these bigots have taken the Republican party down a dangerous path. Why don't more people of good faith condemn this incitement to violence? Should good people, white and otherwise, remain silent while Palin and McCain repeat outlandish falsehoods that make their supporters tell "Kill him!" and "Sit down, boy!" What kind of country do we live in?

Posted by: USAfuture | October 10, 2008 7:32 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: RF13 | October 10, 2008 7:07 PM | Report abuse

"It is about time the facts about Obama's past are coming out."

Uh, I believe it's William Ayers' past, not Obama's. McCain is trying to pin Ayers' past on Obama, trying to make Obama a terrorist, which is patently absurd.

It's the same game as calling Obama a Muslim.

Obama's running ahead in the race, and a panting McCain is stooping to pick up rocks to throw at the guy pulling away from him.

Pitiful.

Bob Clawson

Posted by: rjclawson | October 10, 2008 4:15 PM | Report abuse

What is now happening in what was once the greatest democracy in the world reminds me of a pack of wild dogs turning on each other and ultimately destroying each other. Rabid madness. At a time when we should all be pulling together, the ignorant one want to continue to fracture the one decent country. It seems that indecency and incivility will win out - a sad commentary on the nation's supposed ideals.

Posted by: 10emlet | October 10, 2008 3:10 PM | Report abuse

I am a liberal and a democrat. But, I want the president of my country to be selected based on merits, and not by an overwhelming bias, and propaganda. I don't understand why the media (almost all of them) and liberal-leaning papers like WP, NY Times, LA Times, Boston Globe, etc jump all over, when William Ayers or Tony Rezko's connections with Barack Obama is discussed. After all, if Obama does not have anything to worry, is it not welcome that this thing comes out in the open. Should Obama be protected from any criticism? Didn't the media push us into the Iraq War? They failed us once, and fail us again. In 2000 election, it was painful for me to see the media glowing over Bush as the savior of White House's "integrity" and "morality". We know what we got. Now, it is the media's turn to brainwash everyone into believing Obama has done nothing wrong, and will do none. Please don't push your agenda on us. If there is a story about Obama and Ayers, investigate it, explain it. Don't attack those who bring it in the open. In fact, before Palin talked about it or Clinton brought it, the media should have done that. We don't believe in Hannity. We want YOU to do it for us. Ask Obama why he associated with Ayers, Wright, and Rezko so long and in so much depth. Let the world know what he has to say. Don't push Obama into the White House. Let him earn it. We deserve that, and you (the news media) need to earn that respect, by asking tough questions to Obama too. Don't be a propaganda machine for any party or any candidate. The reason I am a Democrat is because of the dislike I have for right-wing loud mouths. We don't need left-wing cover-up machines. If you believe Obama is good, he'll come out clean. BUT DON'T COVER IT UP.

Posted by: ronniesmith123 | October 10, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Democrats for John McCain and Sarah Palin in 2008

Posted by: hclark1 | October 10, 2008 1:37 PM | Report abuse


In Letter to 'NYT,' Man Who Prosecuted Weather Underground Hits Linking Ayers to Obama

By Greg Mitchell

Published: October 10, 2008 9:00 AM ET

NEW YORK In a surprising a letter to the editor published in The New York Times today, the chief prosecutor of the Weather Underground in the 1970s expressed outrage over the linking of Barack Obama to Bill Ayers by the McCain campaign, adding, "Although I dearly wanted to obtain convictions against all the Weathermen, including Bill Ayers, I am very pleased to learn that he has become a responsible citizen."

William C. Ibershof also corrects a charge in the Times: "I do take issue with the statement in your news article that the Weathermen indictment was dismissed because of 'prosecutorial misconduct.' It was dismissed because of illegal activities, including wiretaps, break-ins and mail interceptions, initiated by John N. Mitchell, attorney general at that time, and W. Mark Felt, an F.B.I. assistant director."

Felt, of course (you may have already forgotten), was also known as a guy called "Deep Throat."

The full letter follows. For constant coverage of the media and the campaign go to our new blog at:
The E&P Pub

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As the lead federal prosecutor of the Weathermen in the 1970s (I was then chief of the criminal division in the Eastern District of Michigan and took over the Weathermen prosecution in 1972), I am amazed and outraged that Senator Barack Obama is being linked to William Ayers’s terrorist activities 40 years ago when Mr. Obama was, as he has noted, just a child.

Although I dearly wanted to obtain convictions against all the Weathermen, including Bill Ayers, I am very pleased to learn that he has become a responsible citizen.

Because Senator Obama recently served on a board of a charitable organization with Mr. Ayers cannot possibly link the senator to acts perpetrated by Mr. Ayers so many years ago.

I do take issue with the statement in your news article that the Weathermen indictment was dismissed because of “prosecutorial misconduct.” It was dismissed because of illegal activities, including wiretaps, break-ins and mail interceptions, initiated by John N. Mitchell, attorney general at that time, and W. Mark Felt, an F.B.I. assistant director.

William C. Ibershof
Mill Valley, Calif., Oct. 8, 2008

Posted by: pjkiger1 | October 10, 2008 12:52 PM | Report abuse

To John McCain: PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE... KEEP RUNNING THESE ADS!
We Democrats are delighted you're telling the American public that you don't care about their concerns and that they should care about your concern (which is getting elected).

Posted by: kiernanje | October 10, 2008 12:00 PM | Report abuse

Watching the Republicans squeal and squirm as election day gets closer is a guilty pleasure. I don't think the voters are going to buy this at a time that their life savings are going down the drain due to Republican mismanagement. Nice try, but nobody wants to change the subject.

As McCain's campaign said this weekend, "if the campaign is about issues, we lose." You lose.

Posted by: johnsonc2 | October 10, 2008 11:17 AM | Report abuse

GOOD!

It is about time the facts about Obama's past are coming out.

Posted by: RAF3 | October 10, 2008 11:13 AM | Report abuse

McCain/Palin are hate-mongers. Their rallys remind me of the old Jim and Tammy-Faye Bakker side-show. Working up an audience of followers into a lynch-mob frenzy is bad for the G.O.P. and bad for America. The "Mavericks" are reactionary nationalists closer to Neo-Nazis than Neo-Cons. America needs help, not hate. Free the Republican Party from this cancer. Vote them out and send a message this is NOT the change the G.O.P. or the U.S.A. needs.

Posted by: aphilsmith | October 10, 2008 10:46 AM | Report abuse


1 VOTER, 72 REGISTRATIONS
'ACORN PAID ME IN CASH & CIGS'

By JEANE MacINTOSH Post Correspondent
PAWNS IN 'FRAUD': Freddie Johnson, yesterday in Cleveland, and Lateala Goins told of filling out voter registrations multiple times in the ACORN scandal revealed by The Post yesterday.

October 10, 2008

CLEVELAND - A man at the center of a voter-registration scandal told The Post yesterday he was given cash and cigarettes by aggressive ACORN activists in exchange for registering an astonishing 72 times, in apparent violation of Ohio laws.

"Sometimes, they come up and bribe me with a cigarette, or they'll give me a dollar to sign up," said Freddie Johnson, 19, who filled out 72 separate voter-registration cards over an 18-month period at the behest of the left-leaning Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now.

"The ACORN people are everywhere, looking to sign people up. I tell them I am already registered. The girl said, 'You are?' I say, 'Yup,' and then they say, 'Can you just sign up again?' " he said.

Johnson used the same information on all of his registration cards, and officials say they usually catch and toss out duplicate registrations. But the practice sparks fear that some multiple registrants could provide different information and vote more than once by absentee ballot.

ACORN is under investigation in Ohio and at least eight other states - including Missouri, where the FBI said it's planning to look into potential voter fraud - for over-the-top efforts to get as many names as possible on the voter rolls regardless of whether a person is registered or eligible.

It's even under investigation in Bridgeport, Conn., for allegedly registering a 7-year-old girl to vote, according to the State Elections Enforcement Commission.

Meanwhile, a federal judge yesterday ordered Ohio's Secretary of State to verify the identity of newly registered voters by matching them with other government documents. The order was in response to a Republican lawsuit unrelated to the ACORN probe in Cuyahoga County, in which at least three people, including Johnson, have been subpoenaed.

Bribing citizens with gifts, property or anything of value is a fourth-degree felony in Ohio, punishable by up to 18 months in prison. And it's a fifth-degree felony - punishable by 12 months in jail - for a person to pay "compensation on a fee-per-registration" system when signing up someone to vote.

Johnson, who works at a cellphone kiosk in downtown Cleveland, said he was a sitting duck for the signature hunters, but was always happy to help them out in exchange for a smoke or a little scratch. He'd collected 10 to 20 cigarettes and anywhere from $10 to $15, he said.

The Cleveland voting probe, first reported by The Post yesterday, also focused on Lateala Goins, who said she put her name on multiple voter registrations. She guessed ACORN canvassers then put fake addresses on them. "You can tell them you're registered as many times as you want - they do not care," she said.

ACORN spokesman Kris Harsh said the group does not tolerate its workers paying people to sign the voter-registration cards.

ACORN's political wing has endorsed Barack Obama for president, but Ben LaBolt, a spokesman for the Obama campaign in Ohio, said ACORN has no role in its get-out-the-vote drive.

During the primary season, however, the Obama camp paid another group, Citizen Service Inc., $832,598 for various political services, according to Federal Elections Commission filings. That group and ACORN share the same board of directors.

In Wisconsin yesterday, John McCain blasted ACORN.

"No one should be corrupting the most precious right we have, that is the right to vote," he said.

It's a right Johnson will exercise. "Yeah, I've registered enough - I might as well vote."

jeane.macintosh@nypost.com

Posted by: thecannula | October 10, 2008 10:40 AM | Report abuse

From today's Wall Street Journal-

October 10, 2008
Obama's Magic
By Kimberley Strassel

And now, America, we introduce the Great Obama! The world's most gifted political magician! A thing of wonder. A thing of awe. Just watch him defy politics, economics, even gravity! (And hold your applause until the end, please.)

To kick off our show tonight, Mr. Obama will give 95% of American working families a tax cut, even though 40% of Americans today don't pay income taxes! How can our star enact such mathemagic? How can he "cut" zero? Abracadabra! It's called a "refundable tax credit." It involves the federal government taking money from those who do pay taxes, and writing checks to those who don't. Yes, yes, in the real world this is known as "welfare," but please try not to ruin the show.

For his next trick, the Great Obama will jumpstart the economy, and he'll do it by raising taxes on the very businesses that are today adrift in a financial tsunami! That will include all those among the top 1% of taxpayers who are in fact small-business owners, and the nation's biggest employers who currently pay some of the highest corporate tax rates in the developed world. Mr. Obama will, with a flick of his fingers, show them how to create more jobs with less money. It's simple, really. He has a wand.

Next up, Mr. Obama will re-regulate the economy, with no ill effects whatsoever! You may have heard that for the past 40 years most politicians believed deregulation was good for the U.S. economy. You might have even heard that much of today's financial mess tracks to loose money policy, or Fannie and Freddie excesses. Our magician will show the fault was instead with our failure to clamp down on innovation and risk-taking, and will fix this with new, all-encompassing rules. Presto!

Did someone in the audience just shout "Sarbanes Oxley?" Usher, can you remove that man? Thank you. Mr. Obama will now demonstrate how he gives Americans the "choice" of a "voluntary" government health plan, designed in such a way as to crowd out the private market and eliminate all other choice! Don't worry people: You won't have to join, until you do. Mr. Obama will follow this with a demonstration of how his plan will differ from our failing Medicare program. Oops, sorry, folks. The Great Obama just reminded me it is time for an intermission. Maybe we'll get to that marvel later.

We're back now. And just watch the Great Obama perform a feat never yet managed in all history. He will create that enormous new government health program, spend billions to transform our energy economy, provide financial assistance to former Soviet satellites, invest in infrastructure, increase education spending, provide job training assistance, and give 95% of Americans a tax (ahem) cut -- all without raising the deficit a single penny! And he'll do it in the middle of a financial crisis. And with falling tax revenues! Voila!

Moving along to a little ventriloquism. Study his mouth carefully, folks: It looks like he's saying "I'll stop the special interests," when in fact the words coming out are "Welcome to Washington, friends!" Wind and solar companies, ethanol makers, tort lawyers, unions, community organizers -- all are welcome to feed at the public trough and to request special favors. From now on "special interests" will only refer to universally despised, if utterly crucial, economic players. Say, oil companies. Hocus Pocus!

And for tonight's finale, the Great Obama will uphold America's "moral" obligation to "stop genocide" by abandoning Iraq! While teleported to the region, he will simultaneously convince Iranian leaders to peacefully abandon their nuclear pursuits (even as he does not sit down with them), fix Afghanistan with a strategy that does not resemble the Iraqi surge, and (drumroll!) pull Osama bin Laden out of his hat!

Tada!

You can clap now. (Applause. Cheers.) We'd like to thank a few people in the audience. Namely, Republican presidential nominee John McCain, who has so admirably restrained himself from running up on stage to debunk any of these illusions and spoil everyone's fun.

We know he's in a bit of a box, having initially blamed today's financial crisis on corporate "greed," and thus made it that much harder to call for a corporate tax cut, or warn against excessive regulation. Still, there were some pretty big openings up here this evening, and he let them alone! We'd also like to thank Mr. McCain for keeping all the focus on himself these past weeks. It has helped the Great Obama to just get on with the show.

As for that show, we'd love to invite you all back for next week's performance, when the Great Obama will thrill with new, amazing exploits. He will respect your Second Amendment rights even as he regulates firearms! He will renegotiate Nafta, even as he supports free trade! He will.

Ms. Strassel is a member of The Wall Street Journal's editorial board

Posted by: thecannula | October 10, 2008 10:31 AM | Report abuse

I think what really bothers the GOP supporters is there is nothing to the Bill Ayers story. Obama didnt sit in on any terrorist meetings or plan bombings like they are hoping he did. Just like they were praying for a video of Michelle Obama cursing whitey in a church which never materialized they are taking a hail mary on Bill Ayers. Just remember the GOP has had much more friendlier dealings with terrorists. Rummy meeting Sadaam, the Bush family being long time friends with the Bin Laden family. The Bush admin secretly flying the bin laden family out of the country after September 11th at taxpayers expense. Try as you may you wont find to much dirt, but you just keep trying. The more you air these negative ads the better the country will be because they wont vote GOP.............

Posted by: rharring | October 10, 2008 10:18 AM | Report abuse

Leave Obama alone ... he is the Messiah!

Just ask Louis Farrakhan.

(or watch the video linked below, and hear it in his own words).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OowxMcVTjTE

Posted by: DSM_CAL | October 10, 2008 10:12 AM | Report abuse

Let us be clear on a stopry that is being completely omitted

this is a jokwe that SARAH PALIN is ointing fingers and saying domestic terrorism

Here are some facts about little shark in sheeps clothing sarah and Todd...

Vogler founds AIP in the 70's

to fight for secession...

in 1993 he is killed trying to buy plastic explosives for domestic terrorism for said party's beliefs

in the wake of his being murdered...


1994 - AIP draws up the constitution to secede from the US

Todd and Sarah Palin attend.

1995 - Todd Palin officially joins AIP to become a 7-9 year active member...

2000 - Palin attends again.

2006 - Palin is still so "inspired" and supportive of this secessionist group, she gives the keynote speech.

2008 - Palin video tapes her support for this party.

this party was founded on the beliefs of secession and the same values that Vogler was willing to kill people over.

unrepentantly.

values and beliefs that in the year they were mourning his death adn drawing up a constitution Todd Palin was inspired to join... and Sarah Palin obviously found their values compelling enough to support and attend their conventions.

ugh

Posted by: klondike2 | October 10, 2008 9:27 AM | Report abuse

If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you
But make allowance for their doubting too,
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, don't deal in lies,
Or being hated, don't give way to hating,
And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise:

If you can dream--and not make dreams your master,
If you can think--and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,

If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
Or walk with Kings---nor lose the common touch,
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
If all men count with you, but none too much:
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds' worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And---which is more---you'll be a Man, my son!


He was talking about men like Obama.

Posted by: seemstome | October 10, 2008 9:22 AM | Report abuse

The Truth About Sarah Palin
Sarah Palin's credentials as a "reformer" are nothing but spin. She has sided with Big Oil, lobbied to increase pork spending and abused her public power to carry out personal vendettas. Here's a guide to separating myth from fact.

TIM DICKINSONPosted Oct 02, 2008 9:30 AM

THE MYTH: "She took the luxury jet that was acquired by her predecessor and sold it on eBay. And made a profit!" — John McCain, at a campaign stop in Wisconsin

THE FACTS: No one bought the jet online. It was eventually sold through an aircraft broker — at a loss to taxpayers of nearly $600,000.

THE MYTH: "I told the Congress 'Thanks, but no thanks' on that Bridge to Nowhere." — Sarah Palin, convention speech

THE FACTS: Supported the infamous pork project in her 2006 run for governor, even after Congress had killed the bridge; derided its opponents as "spinmeisters." Reversed her stance a year later — but kept the money, doling out the $223 million in federal funds to other pork projects throughout the state.

THE MYTH: "We ... championed reform to end the abuses of earmark spending by Congress." — Sarah Palin, convention speech

THE FACTS: As mayor, employed a lobbyist who also worked for Jack Abramoff to secure $27 million in pork spending for Wasilla — more than $4,000 per resident. In her two years as governor, requested $453 million in earmarks. Alaska ranks first in the nation for pork, raking in seven times the national average.

THE MYTH: "I found ... someone who stopped government from wasting taxpayers' money." — John McCain, introducing Palin

THE FACTS: Signature accomplishment as mayor: building a $15 million hockey arena that plunged the city into debt. Broke ground on the project without finalizing the city's purchase of the land; the resulting fiasco cost Wasilla $1.3 million — roughly $200 per resident.

THE MYTH: "Our opponents say, again and again, that drilling will not solve all of America's energy problems — as if we didn't know that already." — Sarah Palin, convention speech

THE FACTS: "I beg to disagree with any candidate who would say we can't drill our way out of our problem." — Sarah Palin, July 2008

THE MYTH: "We began a nearly $40 billion natural-gas pipeline to help lead America to energy independence." — Sarah Palin, convention speech

THE FACTS: With federal approval years away, not a single section of the pipeline has been laid. State could end up paying the pipeline's contractor $500 million — even if it never breaks ground on the project.

THE MYTH: "She's from a small town with small-town values." — Fred Thompson, convention speech

THE FACTS: Wasilla and the surrounding valley recently named the meth capital of Alaska, with 42 meth labs busted in a single year.

THE MYTH: Palin has "taken on the political establishment in the largest state of the union." — Fred Thompson, convention speech

THE FACTS: Served until 2005 as director of fundraising group associated with indicted senator Ted Stevens.

THE MYTH: "She's fought oil companies." — John McCain, introducing Palin

THE FACTS: Collected $13,000 in campaign contributions from oil and gas lobbyists, including Exxon, BP, Shell and Chevron. BP was a sponsor of her inaugural ball.

THE MYTH: "She's been to Kuwait. She's been over there. She has been with her troops. The National Guard that she commands, who have been over there and had the experience." — John McCain, highlighting Palin's national-security credentials

THE FACTS: Never had a passport before 2007, when she made a brief photo-op trip to visit troops in Germany and Kuwait. Has never been to Iraq, and has not met a single foreign head of state.

THE MYTH: "I have protected the taxpayers by vetoing wasteful spending." — Sarah Palin, convention speech

THE FACTS: As governor, sought travel reimbursement for 312 nights she spent in her own home.

Posted by: popasmoke | October 10, 2008 9:22 AM | Report abuse

John McCain has been acting erratically ever since he selected Palin for his running mate. When the economy failed his behavior became bizarre. Stresses in the next few years are going to be extreme on the president. They will be fatal on someone in McCain's health and mental state. We will inherit his Palin fiasco if he is elected.
Kipling said it best:

Posted by: seemstome | October 10, 2008 9:05 AM | Report abuse


IF YOU WANT TO KNOW WHO THE REAL JOHN MCCAIN IS ALL YOU NEED TO DO IS READ THIS RS ARTICLE. ON THE STANDS NOW. I KNOW IT IS A LONG READ BUT MAYBE SOME OF YOU REPUBLICANS CAN FIND SOMEONE TO READ IT TO YOU.


http://www.rollingstone.com/news/coverstory/make_believe_maverick_the_real_john_mccain

Posted by: popasmoke | October 10, 2008 8:54 AM | Report abuse

Irony Does Reveal Truth This Article was published on Sept 11 a few hours before the attacks.

THE QUESTION IS OBAMA'S JUDGEMENT WHEN OBAMA WAS IN HIS 30s WHY DID OBAMA CHOOSE TO BE THIS PERSON'S FRIEND WHEN OBAMA WAS AN ADULT ??


IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH OBAMA WHEN HE WAS 8 YEARS OLD.


OBAMA HAS BEEN LYING ABOUT HIS RELATIONSHIP WITH AYERS - CLINTON WAS A LIAR TOO. (CONVICTED LIAR)

No Regrets for a Love Of Explosives; In a Memoir of Sorts, a War Protester Talks of Life With the Weathermen

By DINITIA SMITH
Published: September 11, 2001

''I don't regret setting bombs,'' Bill Ayers said. ''I feel we didn't do enough.'' Mr. Ayers, who spent the 1970's as a fugitive in the Weather Underground, was sitting in the kitchen of his big turn-of-the-19th-century stone house in the Hyde Park district of Chicago.

The long curly locks in his Wanted poster are shorn, though he wears earrings. He still has tattooed on his neck the rainbow-and-lightning Weathermen logo that appeared on letters taking responsibility for bombings. And he still has the ebullient, ingratiating manner, the apparently intense interest in other people, that made him a charismatic figure in the radical student movement.

Now he has written a book, ''Fugitive Days'' (Beacon Press, September). Mr. Ayers, who is 56, calls it a memoir, somewhat coyly perhaps, since he also says some of it is fiction.

He writes that he participated in the bombings of New York City Police Headquarters in 1970, of the Capitol building in 1971, the Pentagon in 1972. But Mr. Ayers also seems to want to have it both ways, taking responsibility for daring acts in his youth, then deflecting it.

''Is this, then, the truth?,'' he writes. ''Not exactly. Although it feels entirely honest to me.''
But why would someone want to read a memoir parts of which are admittedly not true? Mr. Ayers was asked.

''Obviously, the point is it's a reflection on memory,'' he answered. ''It's true as I remember it.''

Mr. Ayers is probably safe from prosecution anyway. A spokeswoman for the Justice Department said there was a five-year statute of limitations on Federal crimes except in cases of murder or when a person has been indicted.

Mr. Ayers, who in 1970 was said to have summed up the Weatherman philosophy as: ''Kill all the rich people. Break up their cars and apartments. Bring the revolution home, kill your parents, that's where it's really at,'' is today distinguished professor of education at the University of Illinois at Chicago. And he says he doesn't actually remember suggesting that rich people be killed or that people kill their parents, but ''it's been quoted so many times I'm beginning to think I did,'' he said. ''It was a joke about the distribution of wealth.''

He went underground in 1970, after his girlfriend, Diana Oughton, and two other people were killed when bombs they were making exploded in a Greenwich Village town house. With him in the Weather Underground was Bernardine Dohrn, who was put on the F.B.I.'s 10 Most Wanted List. J. Edgar Hoover called her ''the most dangerous woman in America'' and ''la Pasionara of the Lunatic Left.'' Mr. Ayers and Ms. Dohrn later married.

In his book Mr. Ayers describes the Weathermen descending into a ''whirlpool of violence.''

''Everything was absolutely ideal on the day I bombed the Pentagon,'' he writes. But then comes a disclaimer: ''Even though I didn't actually bomb the Pentagon -- we bombed it, in the sense that Weathermen organized it and claimed it.'' He goes on to provide details about the manufacture of the bomb and how a woman he calls Anna placed the bomb in a restroom. No one was killed or injured, though damage was extensive.

Between 1970 and 1974 the Weathermen took responsibility for 12 bombings, Mr. Ayers writes, and also helped spring Timothy Leary (sentenced on marijuana charges) from jail.

Posted by: 37thandOStreet | October 10, 2008 8:46 AM | Report abuse

The only problem I have with the McCain campaign bringing Ayers up is the that fact that it didn't do it earlier. The spin coming from the media/Obama supporters that Ayers and Wright and Rezco are off limits and/or that it's racist to bring them up is ludicrous. If Obama was a white Republican and he started his first campaign in the home of a known abortion clinic bomber or that he atended the church of a racist white preacher for 20 years or a convicted felon helped him buy his multi million dollar mansion the press would be all over it. The NY Times would have investigative reports on the front page. Now we have this left wing Acorn organization who's been out registering new Democrat voters for the Obama campaign committing voter fraud all over the country. And what about the media blaming Republicans for the economic mess and completely abolving the Democrats when its the Democrats who've been in charge of congress for the past 2 years and it was the Democrats who fought against Republicans attempts to rein in Fannie and Freddie's toxic mortgate loans. Why shouldn't Republicans be angry.

Posted by: RobT1 | October 10, 2008 8:41 AM | Report abuse

Hasn't the general message of the Obama campaign regarding the Bill Ayers allegations been that he was 'just a guy in the neighborhood', and was someone others introduced Obama to. But Obama didn't know anything about his background until many years after first meeting him, when he then distanced himself from Ayers (about the same time he decided to run for President).

Question: why did Obama say in a radio interview yesterday, when asked about Ayers, that sure, he knew Ayers and worked with him on many occassions, but "I thought he had been rehabilitated".

What??!! I thought you didn't know anything about his past when he was throwing you fundraisers and you were serving on education boards with him! But now you are saying you "thought he had been rehabilitated". Rehabbed from what? You didn't know anything about his past, right? So why would you have thought there was anything from which he would have been 'rehabilitated'?

I'm just really confused, so if any of you Obama followers could help me sort this out, that would be great. I'm just not sure which Obama lie to believe this morning:
- He didn't know Bill Ayers.
- He did know him, but didn't know anything about him.
- He did know him, knew about his past, but thought he had been "rehabilitated".

Or, maybe I should just wait until tomorrow, since the rate Obama is going his recollection of his relationship with a domestic terrorist may change.....again.

Posted by: dbw1 | October 10, 2008 8:19 AM | Report abuse

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The Solution to the Economic Crisis is NOT to place a former cocaine user like Obama in charge of the World's Largest Economy.


Are you completely insane?


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The Solution to the Economic Crisis is NOT to place a former cocaine user in charge of the World's Largest Economy.


Are you completely insane?


Voted One Of The Nation's Top 5 Political Blogs For The Election Of 2008:


http://www.myspace.com/37thandostreet


Bookmark It Now !!!!


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Posted by: 37thandOStreet | October 10, 2008 7:25 AM | Report abuse

Watch the debate outtakes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YA3xIEes6Q4
watchdebate.com

Posted by: pastor123 | October 10, 2008 7:20 AM | Report abuse

Watch McCain Drop the F- Bomb, The F- Word over and over to a reporter. I think he is losing it.
http://www.mccanes.com

See Obama Call out McCain, http://www.theobamaplan.com

Posted by: pastor123 | October 10, 2008 7:07 AM | Report abuse


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A great deal has been said of Obama as head of the Harvard Law Review - however the evidence is that he was voted into that position because the people thought it would be "cool" to have a black in there, not because he was more qualified than the other students.


Having said that, Obama NEVER wrote for the Harvard Law Review.


There is NOT ONE ARTICLE WRITTEN BY OBAMA IN THE HARVARD LAW REVIEW.


There is a pattern of Obama getting positions or jobs through affirmative action and then NOT doing those jobs.


1) First, he took a position in the class at Harvard Law School (from a white student) however Obama NEVER became a lawyer,


2) Obama became head of the Harvard Law Review, however Obama NEVER wrote a law review article.


3) Obama became a State Senator however Obama RARELY voted yes or not, voting present many many times - Emil Jones placed Obama's name on numerous bills which were Emil's work, and Obama took credit for Emil's work because someone decided that Obama was going to be pushed forward.


4) Obama was selected to be the Chairman of the SubCommittee to review NATO's role in Afghanistan however Obama NEVER held any hearings of this SubCommittee.


5) Obama was elected to the US Senator, however instead of doing his job as a Senator Obama went on a book tour and started a campaign for President - HOW MUCH TIME HAS HE REALLY SPENT ACTUALLY BEING A SENATOR ???

Sorry However NONE OF THIS IS IMPRESSIVE. In fact, it is rather sad.


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Posted by: 37thandOStreet | October 10, 2008 5:30 AM | Report abuse

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The Solution to the Economic Crisis is NOT to place a former cocaine user like Obama in charge of the World's Largest Economy.


Are you completely insane?


Voted One Of The Nation's Top 5 Political Blogs For The Election Of 2008:


http://www.myspace.com/37thandostreet


Bookmark It Now !!!!

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The Solution to the Economic Crisis is NOT to place a former cocaine user in charge of the World's Largest Economy.


Are you completely insane?


Voted One Of The Nation's Top 5 Political Blogs For The Election Of 2008:


http://www.myspace.com/37thandostreet


Bookmark It Now !!!!

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Posted by: 37thandOStreet | October 10, 2008 5:22 AM | Report abuse

prhornbeak - dream on, neo-nazi

Posted by: 10emlet | October 10, 2008 2:13 AM | Report abuse

The Obama crowd is growing increasingly nervous. Can you smell it? It is another election blown by socialist left wing people who have the morals that would embarrass forest dwelling apes. No one believes Obama's rant anymore..it is tired and old from the 30s when apeasement was fashionable.

Keep in mind this guy OBAMA is likely a crook who has trained numerous Acorn crooks that are involved in massive voter fraud as you read this. The vote fraud is just the icing on the Obama cake.

"Cooking the books" is criminal whether you are a politician or so called business executive. These people knew that really bad uncollectible loans were being made and that all accepted lending standards were being ignored. If you serve the people or corporate investors your duty is to never let these things happen.

The financial crash is traceable to ACORN/Fannie/Freddie and techniques they employed to harass and threaten banks into making the millions of unqualified bad mortgage loans. They had the active help and support of Democrats in congress to block any reform or attempts to stop the lending carnage. These guys always played the race card in the congress. And they played the ultimate card in Obama. (Why who would have the audacity to question the character of the nominee...it must be a right wing attack by crazed neocons led by Bush)

It was not a surprise to Barney Frank or Obama that we had the chickens come home to roost. The lending ripoff was premeditated. The timing and the unilateral bashing of Bush have allowed them to become more brazen each day that passes. They really think taxpayers are stupid enough to sit still while several trillion dollars of retirement savings is lost...just so these a--holes can win an election.

Obama never answers any question directly..he recites the well rehearsed talking points of Soros,& company. Party slogans that Putin and the old KGB must admire. But, no one has a honest account of his time in New York, his real connections to the radicals in Chicago, Texas and Saudi Arabia.

They were on the verge of success in their premeditated attack on the economy to gain votes via the mortgage crash and/or the voter fraud.. It is worse than unethical. It is criminal and on a scale so large that honest people can not even imagine it happening in the first place.

The deliberate subversion of our financial system by Obama, Frank, and executives from Fannie and Freddie as well as the greedy CEOs from Wall Street who joined in the party must be investigated by the FBI and every one of them prosecuted and brought to justice.

They have been stealing from taxpayers with the help of democrats like Frank, Reid, and Obama. They were even slipped into the first bailout to the tune of a half billion dollars. Thank god house Republicans caught this latest theft before it happened! Now the election of the fraud Obama must not come to pass

Posted by: prhornbeak | October 10, 2008 1:47 AM | Report abuse

The Obama crowd is growing increasingly nervous. Can you smell it? It is another election blown by socialist left wing people who have the morals that would embarrass forest dwelling apes. No one believes Obama's rant anymore..it is tired and old from the 30s when apeasement was fashionable.

Keep in mind this guy OBAMA is likely a crook who has trained numerous Acorn crooks that are involved in massive voter fraud as you read this. The vote fraud is just the icing on the Obama cake.

"Cooking the books" is criminal whether you are a politician or so called business executive. These people knew that really bad uncollectible loans were being made and that all accepted lending standards were being ignored. If you serve the people or corporate investors your duty is to never let these things happen.

The financial crash is traceable to ACORN/Fannie/Freddie and techniques they employed to harass and threaten banks into making the millions of unqualified bad mortgage loans. They had the active help and support of Democrats in congress to block any reform or attempts to stop the lending carnage. These guys always played the race card in the congress. And they played the ultimate card in Obama. (Why who would have the audacity to question the character of the nominee...it must be a right wing attack by crazed neocons led by Bush)

It was not a surprise to Barney Frank or Obama that we had the chickens come home to roost. The lending ripoff was premeditated. The timing and the unilateral bashing of Bush have allowed them to become more brazen each day that passes. They really think taxpayers are stupid enough to sit still while several trillion dollars of retirement savings is lost...just so these a--holes can win an election.

Obama never answers any question directly..he recites the well rehearsed talking points of Soros,& company. Party slogans that Putin and the old KGB must admire. But, no one has a honest account of his time in New York, his real connections to the radicals in Chicago, Texas and Saudi Arabia.

They were on the verge of success in their premeditated attack on the economy to gain votes via the mortgage crash and/or the voter fraud.. It is worse than unethical. It is criminal and on a scale so large that honest people can not even imagine it happening in the first place.

The deliberate subversion of our financial system by Obama, Frank, and executives from Fannie and Freddie as well as the greedy CEOs from Wall Street who joined in the party must be investigated by the FBI and every one of them prosecuted and brought to justice.

They have been stealing from taxpayers with the help of democrats like Frank, Reid, and Obama. They were even slipped into the first bailout to the tune of a half billion dollars. Thank god house Republicans caught this latest theft before it happened! Now the election of the fraud Obama must not come to pass

Posted by: prhornbeak | October 10, 2008 1:45 AM | Report abuse

oh yeah i almost forgot

http://www.need4trth.blogspot.com

THIS IS NEED4TRTH AND THIS IS AN ALERT.....

The New york times is following up on a story of about 6 swing states which are attempting to purge ten's of thousands of newly registered democrat voters from there voting rolls. The times states that these purges seem to be illegal and that some of these states are using social security numbers illegally to do this.

HERE IS A PORTION OF THE PIECE FROM THE NY TIMES

Tens of thousands of eligible voters in at least six swing states have been removed from the rolls or have been blocked from registering in ways that appear to violate federal law, according to a review of state records and Social Security data by The New York Times.....

Still, because Democrats have been more aggressive at registering new voters this year, according to state election officials, any heightened screening of new applications may affect their party’s supporters disproportionately. The screening or trimming of voter registration lists in the six states — Colorado, Indiana, Ohio, Michigan, Nevada and North Carolina — could also result in problems at the polls on Election Day: people who have been removed from the rolls are likely to show up only to be challenged by political party officials or election workers, resulting in confusion, long lines and heated tempers.

Some states allow such voters to cast provisional ballots. But they are often not counted because they require added verification.

Although much attention this year has been focused on the millions of new voters being added to the rolls by the candidacy of Senator Barack Obama, there has been far less notice given to the number of voters being dropped from those same rolls.
The six swing states seem to be in violation of federal law in two ways. Michigan and Colorado are removing voters from the rolls within 90 days of a federal election, which is not allowed except when voters die, notify the authorities that they have moved out of state, or have been declared unfit to vote.

Indiana, Nevada, North Carolina and Ohio seem to be improperly using Social Security data to verify registration applications for new voters.
In addition to the six swing states, three more states appear to be violating federal law. Alabama and Georgia seem to be improperly using Social Security information to screen registration applications from new voters. And Louisiana appears to have removed thousands of voters after the federal deadline for taking such action.


THE TIMES PIECE SAYS THIS.......


The actions do not seem to be coordinated by one party or the other....

Hmmmmm, I'd have to beg to differ on that point. Three weeks ago on the Tom Hartman program on green 960, the guest host broke this story and it was reported that this was a coordinated effort by the RNC and John McCains campaign. The Mccain campaign were sending out millions of mailers of absentee ballots to none other than newly registered Barack Obama supporters, especially African Americans, these mailers were, in some cases, confusing, had the wrong addressess to send the absontee ballots to the wrong district offices, which is CLEAR EVIDENCE of nothing more than ILLEGAL FEDERAL CRIMES, AND 'JIM CROW' dirty tricks.

HUGE QUESTION NOT BEING ANSWERED, WHY AREN'T THE MAJOR NETWORKS TAKING THESE REPORTS ON?

I think it is fair to say this now, When the 'racially tinged distraction' of the Rev. Jeremiah Wright broke, the MAJOR NETWORKS CARRIED THESE STORIES FOR WEEKS...hour after hour day after day....They used this storie to condemn Senator Barack Obama and they literally held a public lynching of the Rev. Jeremiah Wright. He was tried and convicted in the MAJOR CORPORATE MEDIA. Yet, a storie of such GREAT IMPORTANCE.....THEY ARE IGNORING....The MAJOR CORPORATE MEDIA IS IN ON THIS AND IT IS A COORDINATED EFFORT TO ELECT the ERRACTIC, SENSELESS, WARMONGERER Senator John McCain and Gov. Sarah Palin, who is under LEGISLATIVE INVESTIGATION FOR ETHICAL MISDOINGS....A criminal. The CORPORATE MEDIA IS LITERALLY SUPPRESSING THIS Story...

NETWORKS AREN'T DOING ENOUGH.....

Instead, FOX NEWS IS COORDINATING AND HONING IN ALL THEIR MAJOR EFFORTS in trying to recover from Sean Hannity's BEING EXPOSED OF HAVING AN ANTI-SEMETIC HATE MONGER ON HIS SHOW AND GIVING THAT PLATFORM A VOICE......

Posted by: need4trth | October 10, 2008 12:58 AM | Report abuse

AFTER SEEING THIS LIE....NO WONDER OUR NATION IS JUST BEGINNING TO SUFFER....LOOK AT OUR LEADERS...THEY ARE AN OFFENSIVE STENCH IN THE NOSTRILS OF THE WORLD...


McCain said this at a rally,
..."My friends you ask these questions and all you get is a barrage of insults."

THE INSULT IS THE LIE THAT MCCAIN IS PORTRAYING...The insult is having a following of RACIST HATEMONGERS....The insult is the insidious RACEBAITING WHICH THIS crude HONORLESS man who has stood up to offend our AMERICAN INTELLIGENCE AND IN THE MIDST OF A FINANCIAL WORLD CRISIS...all McCain is offering is RACIST FEAR-BAITING.

RACIST RALLIES AND PEOPLE SCREAMING OUT, "KILL HIM"........WHY ISN'T THE PRESS ALL OVER THIS? WHY AREN'T SENATORS AND CONGRESSMAN, AND GOVERNORS FROM ALL OVER THE NATION CONDEMNING WHAT MCCAIN/PALIN/SEAN HANNITY ARE ATTEMPTING? HAS OUR NTION WHICH WAS FOUNDED ON RIGHTEOUSNESS COME DOWN TO MCCAIN AND PALIN AND HANNITY? WHY AREN'T WHITE LEADERS AND BLACK LEADERS AND LATINO LEADERS AND ASIAN LEADERS FROM THE COURTS AND CHURCHES ALL OER THIS CONDEMNING THEM FROM EVERY CORNER OF OUR NATION?? THE CONVERSATION IS WHAT DO WE DO TO SAVE OUR COUNTRY FROM THIS FINANCIAL CRISIS, FROM LOSING JOBS, AND HOMES, AND SAVINGS? hOW DO WE RESPONSIBLY GET OUT OF THIS WAR AND STILL SUPPORT OUR FELLOW ALLIES AND PROMOTE DEMOCRACY WITHOUT SHOOTING FIRST AND THEN ASKING QUESTIONS? HOW DO WE NOT COMMIT OUR SONS AND DAUGHTERS TO A 7 YEAR ISTAKE AND OCCUPATION? HOW DO WE CLEAN UP OUR STANDING IN THE WORLD AND AMONGST OUR ALLIES?

THE CONVERSATION ISN'T A QUESTION CREATED TO DECEIVE AND DIVIDE IN THE MIDST OF CRISIS, BECAUSE MY TEAM DOESN'T HAVE THE ANSWER AN VOTERS ARE LISTENING TOO SOUNDNESS OF HEART AND CHARACTER, BUT IT'S NOT ME, SO I'M JEALOUS AND WIL TRY ANYTHING EVEN EVIL TO DECIEVE THOSE I CALL AT MY RALLIES, 'MY FRIENDS' AND EVEN, 'MY FELLOW AMERICANS', BECAUSE I DONT HAVE THE ANSWERS. LEARN TO LOSE GRACEFULLY, DON'T DRAG THE NATION DOWN WITH YOU. WHY AREN'T OUR LEADERS DISCUSSING THIS AND CONDEMNING IT? DO OUR LEADERS NOT KNOW HOW TO LEAD IN INTEGRITY??? dO WE ACCEPT THIS AS AMERICANS???? MCCAIN AND PALIN ARE ATTEMPTING TO CHEAT US FOR POLITICALK EXPEDIENCY. SPEAKING TOO THE LOWEST SENSES OF OUR NATURE AND NOT THE HIGHEST....
THEY WOULD CHEAT OUR NATION FROM THE TIME OF HEALING WE SO NEED...WE CAN'T AS A PEOPLE LET THEM. NO!!!!!BY NO MEANS WILL YOU ROB US AGAIN!!!!! NO!!!!

McCain was silent giving a full voice to DANGEROUS THREATS OF ASSASSINATION. Where is his leadership on this? If any harm comes to Senator Obama, we need to remember that Senator John McCain CONDONED IT BY GIVING IT A VOICE, Sean Hannity, CONDONED IT by allowing an ani-smetic terrorist on his show and then allowing McCain and Palin own his show to give a voice too, TWO POLITICIANS WHO ARE EVEN SUPPORTED BY SO-CALLED CHRISTIAN ORGANIZATIONS, AND THEY THEMSELVES PROFESS CHRIST, and they came on FOX NEWS accussing a fellow American Senator of being a TERROIST, EVEN INCITING the use of his African middle name to stir up RACIST HATRED on National TV. We need to remember that FOX NEWS has given RACISM, AND ANTI-SEMITISM A VOICE THROUGH Sean Hannity's show.....If anything atrocious happens to Senator Obama THESE PEOPLE AND ENTITIES NEED TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE.


QUICK FAIR QUESTION.....

Where are we as a nation when in our politics this type of behaviour is accepted? Talked about on the news as if they were speaking about baseball and not our very lives, and what we stand for? Notice this, no one contends with the fact that John McCain and Sarah Palin and The RNC, and the NRA, and Fox News and Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, and a Police officer From Florida and two RNC statechairmans have PUBLICLY AND LOUDLY EVOKED RACIST SENTIMENTS OF HATRED AND MURDER and have tied it into WHAT WOULD BE CALLED PATRIOTISM.

I say this with no fear at all of being judged by a TRUE ALTRUISTIC CREATOR, who presides over us all....John McCain, Sarah Palin, Sean Hannity, and other dishonorable people like these who say Christ is their GOD and behave contrary to Christ are LIARS....Christ is not as Evil is. To go forth in the name of Christ yet LIE ON YOUR BROTHER, is EVIL AND WICKED!!!

To go forth in the Name of Christ and ACCUSE YOUR BROTHER FALSELY and attempt to raise questions which would CAUSE THREATS ARE EVEN HARM to his life should be evidence enough to anyone who is of Christ of something EVIL USING YOU.

Senator McCain and Governor Palin, and Senator Obama and his wife Michelle all understand in their inner being, that these aren't honest inquiries raised out of LOVE and CONCERN. McCain and Palin should be publicy shamed. Barack and Michelle should continue to walk wisely yet be very cautious and PRAY.

If it is not of TRUE LOVE AND CONCERN then it is the OPPOSITE, HATRED, and SCORN. This strategy that Senator McCain and Governor Palin have aligned themselves with is EVIL IN THE VERY CORE OF IT'S MOTIVE. It is an ANYTHING TO WIN strategy. Anything to win includes EVILNESS. DO YOU NOT KNOW YOU ARE OPENING YOURSELVES TO BE USED BY FORCES WHICH ARE NOT OF CHRIST NOR LOVE? You are opening yourselves to THE MURDER OF YOUR BROTHER, and your message is the vehicle of MURDER.

Moses said, when accused by Aaron and Miriam, his brother and sister, and then again when accused by Aken who were jealous of the Authority which God had laid upon him, see they were used of evil and even stirred up a LYNCH MOB as McCain and Palin are ALLOWING THEMSELVES TO BE USED TO DO, and they said, "Who is Moses that he should lead us??" Just as McCain and Palin are asking in the spirit of WICKEDNESS and EVIL, "Who is Barack Obama that he should lead our nation?"

When Moses heard them saying these things he fell down on his knees before them and said, "Let God Judge between you and me." Miriam was struck with Leprosy I believe Aaron then Repented. As to Aken and his fellows, Moses cried out, "Who is on the side of the Lord let them seperate themselves From Aken." Then the earth opened up and swallowed Aken and his fellows and closed in on them.

Yes, I believe at this time it is that Serious. It is written, "Authority comes not from the nor from the right, but God raises up one man and puts down another." This Nation was born on these, Senator McCain has said in the past, "These Judeo-Christian Principles". Did he really believe and mean that? If he did then he knows what position he stands in when intruding on the WILL OF GOD.

I dare also to say Let God judge between Senator McCain and Governor Palin and their attack against their brother Senator Obama. If what McCain and Palin and their SURROGATES ARE ATTEMPTING AGAINST THEIR BROTHER SENATOR OBAMA IS OF THE NATURE OF EVIL, Let God Judge in what ever manner He chooses arightly to deal with ALL WHO SAY THEY ARE OF CHRIST THAT ARE INVOLVED.

I SAY THIS IN THIS TONE BECAUSE ALL INVOLVED HAVE GONE ON RECORD TO SAY THEY ARE OF CHRIST.......

Senator John McCain, Governor Sarah Palin, Sean Hannity, And Senator Barack Obama. So they all understand the Language and the meaning of this. Christ is God according to them all. So, if He is really their God and they are his children, in the book of Hebrews in The Judeo Christian Bible it says, "Do not despise when you are Disciplined by the Lord For the Lord disciplines all those who are considered his sons/daughters. If you be without discipline you do not belong to God and are illigitimate." Would Christ behave as a RACEBAITER? Would Christ Behave as "THE ACCUSER OF HIS BROTHER? Would Christ INCITE HATRED AND MURDER AT his rallies? I think not....I really think not.

SO LET THE CHIPS FALL WHERE THEY MAY, IN THE NAME OF HIS 'HIGHEST'...SO BE IT

Posted by: need4trth | October 10, 2008 12:53 AM | Report abuse

Top republican leaders are saying it is over. It is just a matter of how much damage Mccain will do to the party. They are all using the word landslide.

Posted by: popasmoke | October 10, 2008 12:35 AM | Report abuse

It is about time Americans voted with the pocket books, and brains instead of believing every piece of garbage that is coming out of the media and the compaigns.

http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/5411

This shows you what kind of racial leader the great one is.

Now lets see someone dispute this character flaw.

Posted by: miller51550 | October 10, 2008 12:22 AM | Report abuse

This is comedy at its finest.

Palin pre-empts state report, clears self in probe.

From the Associated Press:

ANCHORAGE, Alaska – Trying to head off a potentially embarrassing state ethics report on GOP vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin, campaign officials released their own report Thursday that clears her of any wrongdoing.

Sen. John McCain's running mate is the subject of a legislative investigation into whether she abused her power as governor by firing her public safety commissioner. The commissioner, Walter Monegan, says he was dismissed in July for resisting pressure from Palin's husband, Todd Palin, and numerous top aides to fire state trooper Mike Wooten, Palin's former brother-in-law.

"The following document will prove Walt Monegan's dismissal was a result of his insubordination and budgetary clashes with Governor Palin and her administration," campaign officials wrote. "Trooper Wooten is a separate issue."

Monegan said Thursday that he doesn't know what to expect from the legislative panel's own report.

"I just hope that the truth is figured out," Monegan told The Associated Press on Thursday. "That the governor did want me to fire him, and I chose to not. You just can't walk up to someone and say, 'I fire you.' He didn't do anything under my watch to result in termination."

Palin's critics say that shows she used her office to settle family affairs.

"When you're the governor, you leave your household hat at home and you become governor," said state Senate President Lyda Green, a Republican who has frequently clashed with Palin.

The campaign's report instead blames former campaign opponent, Andrew Halcro, who has a blog, of conspiring with Wooten to pin Monegan's dismissal on the family's dispute with Wooten. Three days after Monegan was fired, they say, Wooten told his ex-wife, Palin's sister, that: "You guys are going down. Get ready for the show."

Two days after that confrontation, they say, Halcro and Wooten met at a hotel bar in Anchorage for more than three hours — and that evening, Halcro posted the first accusations on his blog that Monegan had been fired because of a vendetta against Wooten by the Palin family.

"It is tragic that a false story hatched by a blogger after drinks with Trooper Wooten led the legislature to allocate over $100,000 of public money to be spent in what has become a politically driven investigation," the 21-page report concludes.

Although the report describes Wooten as a separate issue, the McCain campaign goes into great detail about the "rogue" trooper and his "long history of unstable and erratic behavior." The campaign describes allegations of violence, including threatening Palin's family and shooting his stepson with a stun gun.

The report also includes allegations that Wooten cheated the workers' compensation system. Todd Palin has said he had numerous conversations with government officials about why Wooten was allowed to stay on the job.

"The Palins make no apologies for wanting to protect their family and wanting to bring attention to the injustice of a violent trooper keeping his badge and abusing the workers' compensation system."

But Todd Palin said he never pressured anyone, including his wife.

The McCain campaign says the investigation has become "muddied with innuendo, rumor and partisan politics."

Posted by: flyfishchef | October 10, 2008 12:05 AM | Report abuse

ty02010,

I read your post that says that maybe somehow the mean old Dems blocked McCain's bill in committee and challenged you then to prove it by providing a quote from a Dem Senator or a voting record of the Senate Banking Committee.

Since you couldn't, you didn't. You proved nothing and offered no evidence to substantiate your claim but you did provide some speculation about what might have happened or could have happened.

You ran away from the question of substantiation and my challenge to you which you are again doing now with your thinly veiled attempt to change the subject.

If you have the courage of your convictions, offer up some proof of what you, the RNC and John McCain claim.

Posted by: flyfishchef | October 9, 2008 11:57 PM | Report abuse

If this black rookie from Kenya, with no family or business economic experience, gets the highest post, I will move out from this third World country to be, before he transforms the rest of my money into change, by giving it away to all those lazy losers supporting him that never did anything to earn it, besides whining and complaining that they deserve it because they are black, poor or both!

___________________

LOL - a perfect example of your education 'tax dollars' at work. Where ya goin' ta move ta, little fella?

Posted by: 10emlet | October 9, 2008 11:51 PM | Report abuse

IF YOU THINK CHARACTER ASSASSINATION IS BAD...

ARE AGITATED 'CUDA CROWDS A HARBINGER OF THIS?

http://www.nowpublic.com/world/american-gestapo-state-supported-terrorism-targets-u-s-citizens

Posted by: scrivener50 | October 9, 2008 11:43 PM | Report abuse

flyfishchef Oh, and didn't you previously call me a moron? And didn't I prove you wrong before. So, you've been beating yourself up for the last two plus hours over the fact this republican moron busted your chops?

Kind of makes you feel like how John Kerry must feel.

Posted by: ty02010 | October 9, 2008 11:42 PM | Report abuse

ty02010,

You're the one who made the claim the Dems blocked the bill, not me.

The burden of proving your claim falls to you.

You're right, it is fun to read the blogs and the commentary that goes on. It's also fun to call out posters who claim something as fact but can't substantiate it and watch them squirm or not respond.

Post some proof of your claim. I'm man enough to admit when I'm wrong.

Posted by: flyfishchef | October 9, 2008 11:41 PM | Report abuse

flyfishchef - No you prove it first.

Posted by: ty02010 | October 9, 2008 11:36 PM | Report abuse

COMPLETE LIST OF TERRORIST SYMPTHIZERS REVEALED!!!!!

NEW DISCOVERY OF OTHER ASSOCIATES OF WILLIAM AYRES, INFAMOUS TERRORIST!!!

WHAT WERE THE PEOPLE BELOW THINKING????

The founding Board of Directors of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge as announced in 1995 were:

1. Patricia Albjerg Graham
2. Barack Obama, civil rights attorney at Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland; lecturer at the University of Chicago Law School; member of the board of directors of the Joyce Foundation and the Woods Fund of Chicago; winner, Crain's Chicago Business 40 Under 40 award, 1993; former president of the Harvard Law Review (1990–1991); former executive director of the Developing Communities Project (June 1985–May 1988)
3. Stanley O. Ikenberry, president of the University of Illinois (1979–1995); member of the Civic Committee of the Commercial Club of Chicago (1983–1995); former professor of education (1965–1971) and senior vice president (1971–1979) of Pennsylvania State University
4. Arnold R. Weber, president of the Civic Committee of the Commercial Club of Chicago (1995–1999); member of the board of directors of the Arie and Ida Crown Memorial and the Tribune Company; former president of Northwestern University (1985–1994) and the University of Colorado (1980–1985); professor of labor economics and friend and colleague of George P. Shultz at MIT, the University of Chicago, and in the Nixon administration
5. Ray Romero, vice president and general counsel of Ameritech; Chicago School Finance Authority board member (appointed in 1992 by Governor Jim Edgar); candidate in the 1996 Democratic primary for the 5th Congressional District of Illinois; winner, Crain's Chicago Business 40 Under 40 award, 1991; former Illinois Commerce Commission commissioner (appointed in 1985 by Governor Jim Thompson); former civil rights attorney as Midwest regional director of MALDEF where he was lead counsel for Hispanic plaintiffs in the 1985 Chicago ward remap
6. Wanda White, executive director of the Community Workshop on Economic Development; former policy director of the Women's Self-Employment Project; former deputy commissioner of economic development under Chicago Mayors Washington, Sawyer and Daley
7. Susan Crown, president of the Arie and Ida Crown Memorial; vice president of Henry Crown & Company; daughter of Lester Crown, majority share holder of General Dynamics
8. Handy Lindsey, Jr., executive director (1988–1997) then president (1997–2003) of the Field Foundation of Illinois; former associate director of the Chicago Community Trust (1986–1988)

The final Board of Directors of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge in 2001 were:

1. Patricia Albjerg Graham
2. Barack Obama
3. Edward Bottum, managing director of Chase Franklin Corp.; former president and vice chairman of Continental Illinois Bank
4. Connie Evans, founder and president of the Women's Self-Employment Project
5. Susan Blankenbaker Noyes, former labor attorney at Sidley & Austin; daughter of Republican former Indiana state senator Virginia Murphy Blankenbaker; goddaughter of Patricia Albjerg Graham
6. Scott C. Smith, president, CEO and publisher of the Chicago Tribune; former president, CEO and publisher of the South Florida Sun-Sentinel of Fort Lauderdale; former chairman of the South Florida Annenberg Challenge
7. Nancy Searle, consultant to the Searle Funds at the Chicago Community Trust
8. Victoria Chou, dean of the College of Education at the University of Illinois at Chicago
9. John W. McCarter, Jr., president and CEO of the Field Museum
10. Jim Reynolds, Jr., co-founder, chairman and CEO of Loop Capital Services.

The Board of Directors met monthly for the first six months and quarterly thereafter.

REMEMBER, ALL OF THE ABOVE HAD TIES WITH THE TERRORIST AYRES....AND OBAMA!!!

WHEN WILL MCCAIN/PALIN FINALLY TALK ABOUT THE LACK OF JUDGEMENT AND CHARACTER OF ALL OF THESE OTHER TERRORIST SYMPATHIZERS??

Posted by: plaza04433 | October 9, 2008 11:35 PM | Report abuse

d_hyperion - Good question. And I suggest we get these questions answered in the order they would asked. So first, Obama answers why he would go over to a known terrorist's house, meet his friends?, and welcome his help to further his career.

If Obama answers that one, then maybe we can start seeing if Palin will answer your question. Deal?

Posted by: ty02010 | October 9, 2008 11:35 PM | Report abuse

ty02010,

You've offered no proof to substantiate your lie. None. Only parliamentary procedural hypothesis on how the minority Dems could have blocked a bill in the Republican Majority Committee and Senate.

You made the claim the Dems blocked the bill. Prove it.

Posted by: flyfishchef | October 9, 2008 11:33 PM | Report abuse

flyfishchef - A piece of advice. Maybe you are taking this too seriously. You mean to tell me that you've actually been stewing over that for more than two hours. What did you do, set a reminder in Outlook in the event I didn't get back to you? Chill, political discussions can be fun. Yes they can.

Posted by: ty02010 | October 9, 2008 11:32 PM | Report abuse

Let’s talk about Palin’s association with the Alaskan Independence Party? Her husband (and probably her) has been a part of an organization in Alaska that preaches secession from the USA. They are not all that nice. Then she talks about Obama’s “radical” friends?

The logical question, according to the “guilt by association card” played by Sarah Palin, after watching the video in which Palin addresses the Alaskan Independence Party and wishes them good luck is:

“Sarah, why are you palling around with anti-American secessionists, domestic terrorists who hate our country and actually married one of them??? What were you thinking???”

Posted by: d_hyperion | October 9, 2008 11:32 PM | Report abuse

Those who plant winds, harvest hurricanes!

If this black rookie from Kenya, with no family or business economic experience, gets the highest post, I will move out from this third World country to be, before he transforms the rest of my money into change, by giving it away to all those lazy losers supporting him that never did anything to earn it, besides whining and complaining that they deserve it because they are black, poor or both!

Posted by: trace-sc | October 9, 2008 11:31 PM | Report abuse

flyfishchef - Aren't you the guy who said he knew but didn't really know how bills can be hung up in committee. Didn't you also challenge me to explain to you how a bill could be passed with less than 60 votes. But didn't you also say that you wife use to be a senate staffer?

I can take my time to do this but you've already wasted enough of it. Why don't you talk with your wife. Besides, the bill in 2005/2006, if you want to see what happened to it why don't you search Thomas. I'm not interested in doing your research for you.
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Oh, and I double dare you.

Posted by: ty02010 | October 9, 2008 11:27 PM | Report abuse

flyfishchef - Aren't you the guy who said he knew but didn't really know how bills can be hung up in committee. Didn't you also challenge me to explain to you how a bill could be passed with less than 60 votes. But didn't you also say that you wife use to be a senate staffer?

I can take my time to do this but you've already wasted enough of it. Why don't you talk with your wife. Besides, the bill in 2005/2006, if you want to see what happened to it why don't you search Thomas. I'm not interested in doing your research for you.

Posted by: ty02010 | October 9, 2008 11:25 PM | Report abuse

John McCain has spent years "palling around" with people who have done profoundly more damage to the United States and its citizens than Bill Ayers ever dreamed of -- and McCain "associated with" them while they were in the midst of their activities, not dozens of years later.

Let's name some of them: Jesse Helms. Tom DeLay. Trent Lott. Phil Gramm.

Dick Cheney.

George W. Bush.


Posted by: jonfromcali | October 9, 2008 11:25 PM | Report abuse

Obama is going to win this election despite this little ad. This is just a last effort to put a smudge in someone's name. The republicans know they are losing and are now trying anything to taint Obama reputation. This ad wont affect many people because the majority of them just don't care. They care about the economy more then petty drama that republicans blew way out of proportion. This political attack is irrelevent to all the political problems we have going on the states. Way to fail at life republicans

Posted by: ralphbray | October 9, 2008 11:25 PM | Report abuse

el_barto 'Arocena’s Connection to McCain: Anti-Castro activist Roberto Martin Perez appeared in a McCain ad and is one of the chief proponents of freeing Eduardo Arocena. Senator Joe Lieberman, a close friend of McCain, advocates the release of Arocena...'

"I guess McCain has been pallin' around with terrorists of his own!"
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Keep trying, this doesn't work. McCain knows two people who are advocating for a pardon for a terrorist. Nothing here even says McCain has even talked to the guy.
How is this indirect relationship somehow equivalent to Obama going over to a known terrorists house and using that person's connections to further his career?

Posted by: ty02010 | October 9, 2008 11:19 PM | Report abuse

ty02010, Two hours ago I challenged you to present one single fact to substantiate your moronic RNC talking point lie that the Dems blocked regulatory oversight of Fannie/Freddy.

Come on, dude. Surely you can Google up one quote from a Dem Senator saying he'd filibuster the bill Senator McCain signed onto a year after it was introduced and failed to support in 2007 when it was reintroduced.

You can do it. If the RNC isn't lying then there will be loads of evidence of how the Dems blocked a Republican bill from getting out of Republican Majority Committee chaired by one of the most powerful Republicans in the Senate and bring it to the floor of a Republican Majority Senate for a final vote.

Present one single shred of evidence that the Dems blocked the bill in the Republican Controlled Committee besides unsubstantiated RNC and McCain whining and the hypothetical, no supporting evidence parliamentary procedural points you cited earlier.

It's got to be there if your claim is true. This occurred in 2005. The Internet and cable news were already huge. There will be a trail of evidence in the form of windbag politicians blathering about how they blocked a bill or got it moving.

Present one single fact to back up your claim. One. You've already tried the whiny "we couldn't get our own bill out of own committee because the mean old Dems wouldn't let us" which is complete BS but I'm willing to believe you IF you can provide factual proof.

Posted by: flyfishchef | October 9, 2008 11:18 PM | Report abuse

Obama is not qualified to be president? Hilarious! I think that he's more qualified than McCain and definitely more qualified than Palin. Lets compare McCain's record with Obama's.
McCain's student record (894 out of 899 in the Naval Academy and who actually got in the Academy using his dad's and grand-daddy's CONNECTIONS since they were both admirals) is less than MEDIOCRE. Oh, by the way, how come McCain got to fly (and recklessly crash) 5 planes if he finished at the bottom of his class? Answer: daddy and gran-daddy connections! After coming back from war, he CHEATED his first wife (since she didn't look all the good after a terrible accident) and married a millionaire who paid for his expenses to get in the Senate. Besides being a POW, which DOES NOT automatically qualify you to be president, he is empty. How many POWs do we have here in the US? Hundreds! That's a HUGE FALLACY, and has no logic. He has no relevant INTELLECTUAL accomplishments! Nothing.

Obama, who wasn't born with a silver spoon like McCain and studied his tail off, is a graduate of Columbia University, has a law degree from Harvard, editor of the Harvard Law Review, 12 years in politics, four years on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and manager of one of the most impressively flawless and forward thinking presidential campaigns ever.

Obama is far, far more qualified and smart than McCain AND Palin combined! Obama has knowledge, judgment, and yes, some experience in politics as he has proven during the campaign and the debate. In case needed, we have Joe Biden who can provide his huge experience. McCain on the other hand has Sarah Palin who can memorize lines and repeat them like a parrot and... a great smile! Can we trust her? Not a minute!

Yes, when it comes to this election Obama and Biden ARE THE BEST TICKET, BY FAR. Period.

Posted by: d_hyperion | October 9, 2008 11:13 PM | Report abuse

We all know that the existing entitlement programs are a time bomb even more powerful than the current mortgage crisis! BO's idea of socializing health care is incomprehensible because it is like adding more fuel to that time bomb! Do we really want that? Especially young kids? I have been a Dem all my young ages and I am still undecided (and may not vote at all this year), but I feel horrible about the idea of bankrupting our young generations and their future all together. This is extremely irresponsible and dangerous. From my experience, I can see many of you, especially those young ones, will regret like me, when you are in mid age and become one of the middle class.

Posted by: Hurt2008 | October 9, 2008 11:10 PM | Report abuse

El_Barto you are right, I've met racists. At work you do have to deal with them. And if I know someone is a racist, I may have to deal with them at work but that's the end of the connection. I definitely wouldn't than go to THEIR house and have THEM help me to further my career. Introduce me to their friends. Why did Obama do that?

Posted by: ty02010 | October 9, 2008 11:00 PM


El Barto - You're not going to find the answer to this question in the democratic talking points because this is the very question they don't want to or perhaps can't answer. This is the very question this whole Ayers issue is about, in my opinion. You taunted, I answered. Now what?

Posted by: ty02010 | October 9, 2008 11:08 PM | Report abuse

From http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/riptide/2008/10/a_tale_of_two_terrorists.php

"Ayers' Connection to Obama: Ayers served alongside Obama for three years on the board of the Woods Fund of Chicago, an anti-poverty group. Obama was president of the board of directors for the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, a group Ayers helped to start. Ayers hosted a meet and great for Obama in 1995, at which Obama received the endorsement from an outgoing Illinois state senator.

Arocena’s Connection to McCain: Anti-Castro activist Roberto Martin Perez appeared in a McCain ad and is one of the chief proponents of freeing Eduardo Arocena. Senator Joe Lieberman, a close friend of McCain, advocates the release of Arocena. As we reported two weeks ago, many are hoping that George Bush will pardon Arocena at the end of his term.

Ayers' “Terrorist” credentials: leader of The Weathermen, a radical, often violent anti-Vietnam War group started in ‘69.
Arocena’s “Terrorist” credentials: leader of Omega 7, a radical, often violent anti-Castro group started in ‘74.

Ayers' Crimes: Participated in numerous bombings. A friend and girlfriend died while assembling a bomb, but no others were harmed or killed.
Arocena’s Crimes: Orchestrated 32 bombings and 2 murders.

Ayers' Sentence: No major jail time due to a technicality caused by the FBI’s investigation.
Arocena’s Sentence: Life plus another 20 years.

Ayers' Personal Life:Loving husband and father, currently a professor at University of Illinois Chicago.

Arocena's Personal Life: Loving husband and father, whose wife and children hope for his release.

Ayers' Regrets: Eventually turned himself in. Maintains he didn’t do enough to stop the Vietnam war, but has since said that he condemns all forms of terrorism and that The Weatherman at the time were arrogant and naive.

Arocena’s Regrets: Eventually turned himself in."

I guess McCain has been pallin' around with terrorists of his own!


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Posted by: el_barto | October 9, 2008 11:07 PM | Report abuse

--"This is what I do not understand: Why is it that the Washingtonpost has not taken it upon themselves to investigate Obama's past relationships?

This very report is just plain biased....

Posted by: rasbog | October 9, 2008 10:41 PM | Report abuse"--

YEA! And Esquire magazine tries to deflect attention away with their immoral titillation about Halle Barry. The b*st*rds.

You'd think that since Walter Annenberg bankrolled the whole thing that the Dems would want to blow the lid off the whole sorted mess.

Posted by: DonJasper | October 9, 2008 11:06 PM | Report abuse

John McCain is not man enough to own his sh^t. John McCain will not openly confront Obama with his smears and lies and innuendo. John McCain will not come out and talk about Ayers, he has to be asked. That is why he goes to places like Fox News, so he can be asked. What a coincidence.


John McCain is a coward.


John McCain would rather hide behind his wife and Sarah Palin than say it himself.


He would rather produce 2 minute ads that his campaign will never pay to air anywhere, and hope that the tire-swinging media will bring up the topic so he doesn’t have to do it himself.


John McCain just wants to throw sh^t out there, and "raise questions" about Obama, and hope his supporters connect the dots, because he is too much of a coward to directly push this toxic stew. He would rather hide behind his wife, Palin, right-wing bloggers, surrogates, and scummy websites staffed with wingnut welfare recipients like the NRO and the Weekly Standard.


John McCain had 90 minutes to bring this stuff up to Obama, to his face, and passed.


John McCain is a liar and a coward.
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Posted by: DrainYou | October 9, 2008 11:00 PM | Report abuse

El_Barto you are right, I've met racists. At work you do have to deal with them. And if I know someone is a racist, I may have to deal with them at work but that's the end of the connection. I definitely wouldn't than go to THEIR house and have THEM help me to further my career. Introduce me to their friends. Why did Obama do that?

Posted by: ty02010 | October 9, 2008 11:00 PM | Report abuse

McCain: Grasping at straws


"August 18, 2008 7:45 AM

Chicago Annenberg Challenge Shutdown?
A cover-up in the making?

By Stanley Kurtz

The problem of Barack Obama’s relationship with Bill Ayers will not go away. Ayers and his wife, Bernardine Dohrn were terrorists for the notorious Weather Underground during the turbulent 1960s, turning fugitive when a bomb — designed to kill army officers in New Jersey — accidentally exploded in a New York townhouse. Prior to that, Ayers and his cohorts succeeded in bombing the Pentagon. Ayers and Dohrn remain unrepentant for their terrorist past.

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Obama has dismissed Ayers as just 'a guy who lives in my neighborhood,' and 'not somebody who I exchange ideas from on a regular basis.' For his part, Ayers refuses to discuss his relationship with Obama."


That piece of nonsense was published two months ago. It seems that McCain can't even come up with his own attack against Obama. He has to steal someone else's

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Posted by: el_barto | October 9, 2008 10:54 PM | Report abuse

Hurt2008, you have 'socialized' education, police, road maintenance, etc, etc, etc - all coming out of your taxes. The 'for-profit' medical system enriches a few on the backs of the sick - nothing to be proud of at all.

Posted by: 10emlet | October 9, 2008 10:51 PM | Report abuse

Barack Obama's going to be President of the United States, and 37'th and O is going to be a failed blogger.

I would repeat that a bit more loudly if I had no memory of Lee Harvey Oswald.

Posted by: officermancuso | October 9, 2008 10:49 PM | Report abuse

The Liberal Democrat party has morphed into an Angry, Hate America, Socialist, Big Government, Redistribution of Income, Voter Fraud, Treasonous, Surrendering, Buy Votes with Huge Government Entitlement,Anti Capitalist, Anti Business, Pro Corrupt Union, One World, UN Loving, Euro, Weak Military, Enemy Appeasing, Easy on Terrorists, Anti American stench.

And their Marxist Deceitful South Chicago Political Hack with Terrorists, Racist and Felon connections fits right in.

Posted by: ChangeWhat

Please allow me to retort to your bilious claim, sir.

Who is the one doing all the stereotyping and name calling? That would be YOU, Mr. Angry ChangeWhat!

Your post shows a complete lack of civil discourse or even an attempt at making a factual point, only slanders with no substantiation.

Posted by: flyfishchef | October 9, 2008 10:49 PM | Report abuse

I watched some news coverage of a one of John McCain's town hall meetings today. It looked and sounded more like one of Adolf Hitler's Beer Hall meetings. Just a bunch of angry, frustrated ignorant bigots spewing irrational and delusional hatred. Well, what you sow, you shall also reap. This is what the Republican party created and what is now it's base of support. A bunch of ignorant nutcases that the rest of the world laughs at more and more with every passing day. McCain is nothing like a man. A man with principles would have told those nutbars "I'll have no talk like this at my rallies. We have no room for bigotry and intolerance in our campaign." But he didn't because he is beholden to people to elect him. The White House means more to McCain than principle, and if McCain should by a miracle win in November, he'll find himself between a rock and a hard place; on the one hand, a hard core of fascist hate-mongering idiots who elected him and on the other, an angry Democratic Congress led by Nancy Pelosi and Hillary Clinton. Good luck, Johnny Boy!

Posted by: ThePhotogsBlog | October 9, 2008 10:48 PM | Report abuse

What's there to explain 'ty02010'?

Obama and Ayers served on the board of the same charity - The Annenberg Challenge. It was funded by the Annenberg Foundation, a charity set up by longtime Republican backer and newspaper publisher Walter Annenberg. Annenberg has died, but his wife has endorsed McCain this year. For his work on this educational project, Chicago gave Ayers its "Citizen of the Year" award in 1997.

If you'd hear McCain tell it, it sounds like they clocked into the old mill at the same time and ate lunch together. You know, pallin' around.

Hey 'ty02010', I bet wherever you work, there's at least one racist. I could just as easily say that 'ty02010' hangs around with racists. Why don't you admit it 'ty02010'? What do you have to hide?

Posted by: el_barto | October 9, 2008 10:47 PM | Report abuse

It is SCARY that the comparisons in education are as follows and that some people SERIOUSLY think that McCain and, especially, Palin are more qualified than Obama and Biden. Some people didn't have enough with an idiot like Bush, now they want 2 idiots. Wow,really?

Obama:
Columbia University - B.A. Political Science with a Specialization in International Relations.
Harvard - Juris Doctor (J.D.) Magna Cum-Laude

Biden:
University of Delaware - B.A. in history, B.A. in political science.
Syracuse University College of Law - Juris Doctor

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McCain:
Naval Academy - Class rank 894/899

Palin:
Hawaii Pacific University - 1 semester
North Idaho College - 2 semesters - general study
University of Idaho - 2 semesters journalism
Matanuska-Susitna College - 1 semester
University of Idaho - 3 semesters - B.A. in journalism

Why do the Republicans election after election, insist on running the least intelligent, the least sophisticated and the least qualified candidates they can find?

>>>> republicans: guys who take pride in their ignorance!

Posted by: d_hyperion | October 9, 2008 10:47 PM | Report abuse

PA_DC - Sarah Palin kills endangered species. She takes her young children hunting. How about reading instead of bloodsports for children?

I don't know, sitting around a campfire out in the woods while you read about hunting just isn't the same thing is it?

We call it hunting, you shoot the animal and then you butcher it and eat the meat. Sort of like what happens to that cow, chicken, pig, turkey, or whatever before it gets into that pretty package in the store. Hunters just cut out the middle people.

Posted by: ty02010 | October 9, 2008 10:46 PM | Report abuse

BO is a good guy, but his policies and ideas are extremely dangerous. He wants to socialize health care, especially when in the face of so many failed entitlement programs. Folks, when we socialized the last evacuation of New Orleans for the hurricane, there were evacuees who complained about not being evacuated to a cruise ship! Wake up! This is going to eat up our next generation alive! I have 15 years to retire and I am telling my life experience here. Vote smart, not just popular. This is not a fashion show. It hurts later in your life.

Posted by: Hurt2008 | October 9, 2008 10:45 PM | Report abuse

I guess the Republican Party has no platform to stand on, so why not try to "Swiftboat" Obama just like Bush did to Kerry. It worked for them before and they played us like suckers for four more years....why not give it another try.

Posted by: massmedia77 | October 9, 2008 10:45 PM | Report abuse


From:
Head of State
http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/10/impulsively-unreflective-duo-inmccain.html

The Impulsively Unreflective Duo In..."McCain Goes Negative!"

In our last episode, we saw the indomitable, impulsive duo suspend the campaign to take on the Crisis on Wall Street! Now, watch, as, in our next episode...McCain Goes Negative!

McCain paces the floor in the Fortress of Irritability. He is cracking walnuts.

A walnut slips to the floor.

McCain: Damn nutcracker!

Sarah Palin is sitting in a chair at a desk. She is writing on a piece of paper: "J.M + S.P." This is then crossed out and replaced by "S.P. + J.M.". These alternating versions , the one before it always crossed out, continues down the page.

McCain: Well, the first plan didn't work. We tried to put them in a trance with the folksy ray, but they had their deflectors halfway raised. If only you hadn't called the commander in Afghanistan "McClellan"

Palin: But...didn't you say they were fighting a civil war, Sir?

McCain looks at Palin silently. He is smiling but he is holding back anger.

McCain: I think the time has come. We have to call in...Dr. Negative.

He pushes a large black button, which is the only button, on a red phone on his desk.

Dr. Negative immediately bursts through the door. He is carrying flyers, masking tape; telephone wires are wrapped around his arms hanging in every way; a tattered copy of the book "Accusations of Fascism, Communism, Terrorism, Drug Use, Pedophilia, Islamism, Adultery, Pandeism, Cannibalism, Cubism, Miscegenation, and Spousal Abuse...for Dummies!" is rolled and stuffed in his left pocket, filled with bookmarks; he is dragging a Robocaller behind him, leashed to a chain.

Dr. Negative (quickly, eagerly): Did you hear? Obama was born in Bin Laden's subterranean bomb making factory, outside of U.S. lines. He was born on a pile of cocaine and dynamite--and the midwife was a Trotskyite!

McCain: Not yet, Dr. Negative. I want you to meet Sarah.

Sarah: Oh, we've already met.

Dr. Negative: That trooper went down! He poisoned the salmon milk at the Wasilla Bible school! With drugs made at a Leftist Satan worshiping collective! That you could see from Russia!

Sarah: You betcha'!

Sarah and Dr. Negative give each other a high five. Dr. Negative's telephone wires rattle on his arm as he does so, triggering the Robocaller, which starts playing "...illegitimate babies made in test tube factories in North Korea and sent to Chicago by Bill Ayers..."

Dr. Negative shuts off the Robocaller with an embarassed smile.

Dr. Negative: Just practicing.

There is a pause.

McCain: That's fine, Dr. Negative. That's fine. Because, now, I have a special job for you. An important one.

Dr. Negative leaps into the air with excited glee. As he does, detritus falls to the floor--buttons reading "Election Day: Remember, the 3rd Tuesday in November!", business cards, reading "Push Polls Anonymous--We Call, They Fall", "Mongers On Call-No Rumor Too Far fetched"; Bandaids with purple hearts; mangled and dirty chads.

Dr. Negative: A new job! A special job! Oh, Mr. McCain! I'm ready! I'm ready!

Sarah watches from her chair, filing her nails.

McCain: Now, Dr. Negative. You have to make him seem radical...

Dr. Negative quickly pulls a can out of his right pocket, emblazoned with the word "Radical" He opens the top. Red and Black snakes fly out.

Dr. Negative: (eagerly, expectantly, hungrily) Yes...Yes...

McCain: You'll have to start rumors that are so inflammatory that they will spread like wildfire, and that will be started too late to stop them with the actual truth...

Dr. Negative pulls a gigantic grinder out of his left pocket. It is labeled "Rumor Mill". He turns the crank a few times. Hamsters, syringes, and Peace symbols fly out.

Dr. Negative: Yes...Yes...

He is salivating.

McCain: They will have to be so incredible, so over-the-top, based on such tawdry and poorly sourced evidence, yet riddled with tempting minutia--bullet gauges, Google maps of supposed meetings and the like, that the right will eat them up, and start analyzing the minutia with adolescent glee.

Dr. Negative (Very calmly, matter of fact): Oh, that's easy. They'll eat anything.

Dr. Negative reaches into his back pocket, pulls out a manila envelope labeled "Minutia: So-called "Proof" for the Right". He empties it to the floor. Bullet gauge measures, outdated copies of Photoshop, paperbacks entitled "How to Use the Insane as Competent Witnesses", "The Faked Moon Landings! Roswell! And Other Believable Phenomena!" and "You TOO Can Be A Warrior--From Your Own Couch!" fall to the floor.

Sarah plucks out the "Faked Moon Landings" book. She starts reading.

McCain: We know how our girl loves to read.

Sarah stops, and begins fixing her hair in a hand mirror.

Now, Dr. Negative, there is one final task.

Dr. Negative: Yes, Mr. McCain?

McCain: It is very difficult. Very...dark.

Dr. Negative: (Leaning forward expectantly, his voice quivering with excitement): Yes, Mr. McCain, Yes?

McCain: You will have to play the card that they played against me. Do you understand?

The room becomes silent. Sarah stops looking at herself, and looks towards the center of the room where McCain and Dr. Negative are staring at each other.

Dr. Negative: You mean...(eyes widened with disbelief. His telephone wires are quietly shaking as he shivers).

McCain (nodding): Yes.

Dr. Negative slowly removes from his jacket pocket what seems to be an ordinary pack of playing cards. They are labeled "Joker" brand. He takes a penknife from his pocket, and slowly slices the covering cellophane. There is a slight and distant roar. He looks at McCain.

McCain nods.

Dr. Negative then slowly removes the red ribbon encircling the cellophane at the top of the pack. He inserts the penknife--holding it from it very farthest end--and flips open the top of the pack.

Smoke begins to pour from the top of the pack, thick, acrid smoke. It quickly fills the room, covering all that is in sight.

McCain (shouting amidst the sound of smoke rushing into the room): And remember--no fingerprints!

Next episode: The smoke is cleared.

Cite:
Head of State
http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/10/impulsively-unreflective-duo-inmccain.html

Posted by: robthewsoncamb | October 9, 2008 10:44 PM | Report abuse

37thandOStreet - LOL - you are aware that the current idiot of a republican president also sampled coke before he 'found Jaysus', aren't you?

Posted by: 10emlet | October 9, 2008 10:42 PM | Report abuse

I guess we have the Obama paid staffers talking to each other here tonight

some blog

Posted by: 37thandOStreet |
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No, dude. You and some other RNC hacks are here shilling too so it won't get too lonely for anyone.

Posted by: flyfishchef | October 9, 2008 10:41 PM | Report abuse

Uh, yeah. Last ditch pretty much describes it. What happened to John McCain? I have lost all respect for this guy.

Posted by: Smiling1 | October 9, 2008 10:41 PM | Report abuse

This is what I do not understand: Why is it that the Washingtonpost has not taken it upon themselves to investigate Obama's past relationships? If it had been the other way around, I know Washingtonpost would have gone out of their way to bring up more dirt on the RNC. I know this because this media outlet did them thing against Hillary. What is it about Obama that makes you guys so scared to dig into his background? Remember that by being so biased in your reporting, you are indirectly polarizing your audience and thus risk reducing a major source of your revenues.

This very report is just plain biased....

Posted by: rasbog | October 9, 2008 10:41 PM | Report abuse

RNC = desperate, despicable scum

Obama bashers who post here = boot-licking lackeys of the RNC

Pathetic how low these sub-humans will sink to keep their snouts in the public trough.

Posted by: phoenixresearch | October 9, 2008 10:41 PM | Report abuse

Want to see the real mccain? read this article, which quotes mccain and many republicans.....he is no hero, that is for sure. His own PARTY friends say so in this.

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/coverstory/make_believe_maverick_the_real_john_mccain/page/7

Posted by: sallieismydog | October 9, 2008 10:40 PM | Report abuse

lynrusso wrote "McCain clearly stated that he would not send any money out of this country."

McCain is going to stop all foreign aid? Really?

The Israelis are gonna be p!ssed to learn that. And the Egyptians, the Iraqis, the Pakistanis, the African AIDS prevention programs funded by Bush (good for him, BTW), disaster aid to victims of earth quakes, tsunamis, hurricanes, etc.

Lots of people are going to be angry with McCain when they learn he's going to cut off all foreign aid. The Russians and the Chinese might not be since McCain's plan will leave a vacuum that they can fill to further diminish America's world wide standing.

"There are some that are confused about the bail out, maybe if you listened to what the President said you would understand that they are merely buying paper right now. He said the propertie would not be sold until the Real Estate market recovers. This way they would be sold for a profit and not a loss."3

First of all, please use spell check.

"The property won't be sold until the real estate market recovers...they would be sold for a profit and not a loss"

Really? How do you know that? How does anyone know that? No one does. Furthermore no one knows when or IF real estate prices will return to the highs of earlier this decade. BTW, Bush never said what you claim he did.

Your next comment said "Biden stated that he and Obama are pushing to allow Bankruptcy judges to determine what the value of the house is and how much the person could pay. What is wrong with this picture. We are now going to allow Judges to determine what the value of a home is and then reduce the equity on the remainder of the homes?"

If you were watching the debate on Tuesday night you heard John McCain say essentially the exact same thing for the low, low price of $300 BILLION, without the judicial involvement. I don't recall any specifics as to what organization or agency would re-value the mortgages but someone is going to have to do it. Why wouldn't a trained and experienced bankruptcy judge be such a person?

Next you wrote "Obama is a Muslim- he denies it well if this were not true then why was the author of a book against Obama arrested and then deported from his father' and families country?"

Kenya is a sovereign nation and they do have their own laws different from the U.S.A. One of those laws, which America happens to have too, is that anyone entering the nation has to have proper papers such as a passport and proper visa. The person deported from Kenya did not. Also, Obama isn't the president of Kenya nor is he even a resident of the country so how he is involved in getting that person deported makes it difficult to understand your logic that the person being deported somehow confirms Obama is a secret Mulsim.

Next you wrote: "Why is Obabma not releasing his birth certificate when it was brought out that he may not be an American?" This was addressed a long time ago and he was born in Hawaii. Hawaii, while exotic and far away, is still a part of the United States of America.

Next you wrote: "Most importantly why is it fair for the American people who do pay their mortgages and their bills have to have their taxes increased to pay for thse who chose not to have personal responsibility? What about his shady deal to get his home?"

You mean his shady book deal for the two best sellers he wrote that allowed him to purchase a nicer home? That shady deal?

Next you wrote "As I said earlier we have let people bully us into taking God out of the equation. There is a fundamental reason why all of our money has "In God We Trust" because those were the moral and the values of the men who created this country."

Please take a refresher history course or at least learn to use Google. "In God We Trust" was first used on paper currency in 1957, long after ALL the founding fathers were deceased. BTW, you might want to read The Constitution and the Bill of Rights, which clearly state there will be a separation between religion and government. That Thomas Jefferson was one bright but conniving fellow as he "bullied us into taking God out of the equation".

Then you wrote "Americans have forgot one important thing, those men and women in Washington they work for us, if we don't like the job they are doing we should fire them. But because so many vote on party lines and not the individual doing the job we are now in a mess."

EXCELLENT POINT!!! I hope we will all do just that on election day.

Posted by: flyfishchef | October 9, 2008 10:39 PM | Report abuse

yah, and mccain's vp candidate is under an ETHICS INVESTIGATION....SHE AND HER CREEPS ARE CRIMINALS..NOT IN THE PAST BUT

NOW. RIGHT NOW. SARAH PALIN IS A TERRORIST FOR THE SUBVERSIVE PARTNERSHIP SHE HAS WITH THE GROUP WHO HATES US AND WANTS TO TAKE ALASKA FROM US.

AND SHE LIES. ALL DAY EVERY DAY.

Wanna talk character?? just wait til Obama's 30 minute segments. Mccain will sooooooooooo wish he had not started this. He has so much to hide and it is coming out now!! Obama was ready for this and you will be really rally suprised by what is coming. It will finish off the old erratic nut and his trash talking nasty vp....in fact, her days as governor will be OVER.....sit tight and keep the faith!!

Posted by: sallieismydog | October 9, 2008 10:38 PM | Report abuse

I guess we have the Obama paid staffers talking to each other here tonight

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Posted by: 37thandOStreet | October 9, 2008 10:38 PM | Report abuse

Some of the people here should be ashamed of their own hatred and bile because it will surely choke them.
Obama is not a muslim, he did not choose his name at birth, he had nothing to do with Freddie and Fannie - he was not even in congress when the bad loans and cheap credit was introduced by Greenspan in 2001 and Bill Ayers didn't actually ever do anything, was never charged with anything and is now a respected professor.

All this nonsense about Obama being a liar and a fraud - have a look at the lying moron in the Whitehouse today who has almost single handedly destroyed America in the eyes of the world, has started two "wars" you and we cannot win, caused the deaths of thousands of young Americans, over 1 million Iraqis, the well-being of over 300,000 other young Americans and the flight of 5 million Iraqis from their homes while bankrupting Americans in their own homes.

Some of the imbeciles blogging here ought to think about that.

Posted by: shepherdmarilyn | October 9, 2008 10:36 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: 37thandOStreet | October 9, 2008 10:36 PM | Report abuse

You Republicans are trying to make me laugh, right? Because if not, you're dancing with a diminishing number of devils. Those devils may screech bloody murder, I'll grant you that. It's the sound of the Republican party on it's death bed.

Good night :)

Posted by: officermancuso | October 9, 2008 10:36 PM | Report abuse

ATTENTION - George W. Bush destroyed the Republican Party......John McShame just put the icing on their tasteless cake. John McShame is a LOSER and has been his entire life, starting in grade school when he was nicknamed McNasty, a party boy of no substance. One of 600 POWs, but the only one of those 600 who is using the experience for self-aggrandizement. And now he is inciting racial hatred and violence by encouraging the ignorant and ill-educated and easily-lead hate-mongers to do God-knows-what in the name of the Republican party. SHAME, SHAME, SHAME to the republicans who allow this to continue. You epitomize the very ugliest of what is American.

Posted by: 10emlet | October 9, 2008 10:35 PM | Report abuse

JPRS, I am sorry. I am and have been a Dem all my life. But the radical ideas of BO is just amazing! Many of the young college kids who follow BO now will end up kicking themselves when they get to the mid age. This is my life experience.

Posted by: Hurt2008 | October 9, 2008 10:34 PM | Report abuse

Uh, yeah. Last ditch pretty much describes it. What happened to John McCain? I have lost all respect for this guy.

Posted by: Smiling1 | October 9, 2008 10:32 PM | Report abuse

McCain and Palin are trying to make everyone terrified of Barack Hussein Obama. Does that make them domestic terrorists?
Seriously this guilt by association stuff is simply crap. Particularly since McCain and Palin have their own skeletons of shady associations. But only one campaign is basing everything on swift boating the other guy and inciting the base to riotous fervor. The rallies are scary with folks shouting Obama is a terrorist, a socialist, and worse that he should be killed. Make no mistake McCain and Palin are fueling this hatred with the no to subtle insinuations about Mr. Obama's character. It is despicable.

Posted by: jswallow | October 9, 2008 10:31 PM | Report abuse

Ah ha ha, yes, *that's* what went wrong during Katrina, Bush tried to *socialize* New Orleans.

:::guffaw::::

Posted by: officermancuso | October 9, 2008 10:30 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin kills endangered species. She takes her young children hunting. How about reading instead of bloodsports for children? The church video of her and the witchcraft talk is scary. She's a member of that crazy group that wants Alaska to separate from the US. She's a wacko and McCain is living in the past. The racism is flowing like a river now too. What's going on? Is anyone at the McCain camp thinking? It's sad to watch. McCain is not even a shred of who he was when this started. He went down in flames!

Posted by: PA_DC | October 9, 2008 10:30 PM | Report abuse

Hurt2008,

Every developed democracy -- except for the U.S. -- has "socialized" medicine.

We pay 25-40 percent MORE for covering fewer people than those other governments do.

Of course the private insurance industry is hell-bent against a single-payer health care system. Why wouldn't they be? Their CEO rake in huge sums of money and pour that money right back into GOP coffers.

In exchange ordinary citizens get screwed.

Only the GOP base would think that's a good deal. The GOP base is like a condom that the party leadership uses and discards every 4 years.

Posted by: JPRS | October 9, 2008 10:29 PM | Report abuse

The ad is factual.

Obama is a deceitful, shady, South Chicago Political Hack with very suspicious, very questionable associations.

He has absolutely no business being President.

He is a fraud with radical motives.

Posted by: ChangeWhat | October 9, 2008 10:28 PM | Report abuse

"When a person takes a general swipe at anyone who has served in war without knowing their whole story, they take a swipe at everyone. That says much more about who they are than the person they have disparaged."

You know, like how everyone wore Purple Heart band-aids at the 2004 Republican National Convention.

Posted by: DDAWD | October 9, 2008 10:28 PM | Report abuse

A person could be excused for asking, "What's the difference between Palin and Putin?"

The answer, I suspect, is that Putin came up the hard way, while Palin enjoyed "kid glove" treatment by virtue of her gender.

Posted by: officermancuso | October 9, 2008 10:27 PM | Report abuse

BO wants to socialize health care and that is dangerous even if in the face of so many failed entitlement programs. Folks, when we socialized the last evacuation of New Orleans for the hurricane, there were evacuees who complained about not being evacuated to a cruise ship! Wake up! This is going to eat up our next generation alive!

Posted by: Hurt2008 | October 9, 2008 10:24 PM | Report abuse

What do Obama, Ayers, Wright, Flager, ACORN, Communists, Socialists, Russia, Venezuela, North Korea, Terrorists, Iran, Moveon, the Government Dependent, The non productive slugs sucking on the government teet, Reid, Pelosi, Dodd, Durbin, Biden and all Treasonous Deceitful Lib Dems in Congress and Unions all have in common?

The want to "Change" America.

Posted by: ChangeWhat | October 9, 2008 10:24 PM | Report abuse

PA_DC - If nothings sticking then you just gotta keep throwing. Don't worry, it will end, November isn't that far away. In the meantime, just sit back and enjoy the show. And, it's all free. Which is good considering the state the economy is in.

Posted by: ty02010 | October 9, 2008 10:21 PM | Report abuse

lynrusso,

How do you think tax-cheats like the McCains were able to amass a $100 million fortune?

Why do you think tax-cheats like McCain are proposing yet another hundred billion boondoggle for lenders at the expense of tax-payers? (e.g. some crazy plan that he thought up just a couple days ago -- something that even Bush and Treasury Secretary Paulson would reject out-of-hand).

Wingnuts can complain about "Illegals" but it's a good thing right about now that those illegals aren't clamoring for the $50 billion that they put into our social security system under phony social security numbers since 1998.

As for the Bush years, of course, wingnuts would like for people to forget who was in charge for the past 8 years. Never mind that the GOP has controlled both branches of congress for 6 of the last 8. Never mind that they rubber stamped the policies of this president at every turn.

As far as "personal responsibility goes" -- real accountability means that Bush and every single one of his rubber stamps should be served their walking papers this November. I don't expect the GOP base to abide by their own standards, but perhaps enough Americans will be willing to give someone else a shot at screwing things up for the next 6 years.

Posted by: JPRS | October 9, 2008 10:21 PM | Report abuse

There is nothing attractive about greed and not all people are greedy, in this case the greedy are the ones that have all the money and just don't want to lose it. These are our politicians, bankers, and Wall Street.

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Greed??

it's part of the human condition.

never going to stop that.

but you can do your best to guard against it...and the pols in DC, both Rep and Dem, made it easier for the greedy to flourish.

the repubs by denying the necessity of regulation and gov't intervention ....and the Dems for bending over backwards to accomodate their base...those who should never have been allowed to take mortgages they couldn't afford.

mcCain will do nothing because he is clueless...obama has the better shot but he too has a weakness...inaction. i'm still betting on obama.

the racism and hatefulness seen at mccain and palin rallies ought to give everyone pause. this is how facism arises.

Posted by: wpost4112 | October 9, 2008 10:20 PM | Report abuse

BREAKING: O just moved all his chips to the middle of the table. Just scheduled: The O Show, the Wednesday before the election. Barack Obama, uninterrupted, for one-half-hour, direct to the people.
Unprecedented since Burt Lancaster did it in "Seven Days in May." --

From HuffPo:

"The Obama campaign has bought a half hour block of primetime television - from 8-8:30pm ET - on Wednesday, Oct. 29, on CBS, NBC, and MSNBC, according to television industry sources.

The bold buy, first reported by the Hollywood Reporter and featured on the Drudge Report, will put the Obama show uninterrupted to American television sets across the country less than one week before election day. The Obama camp remains in talks with other networks to do the same on other channels.

Evan Tracey, chief operating officer of the Campaign Media Analysis Group or CMAG, estimates that 30 minutes of primetime network television would cost at least $500,000."

Posted by: broadwayjoe | October 9, 2008 10:20 PM | Report abuse

broadwayjoe -To steal a somewhat famous quote:

Sir, I met RFK, and Barack Obama is no RFK.

Posted by: ty02010 | October 9, 2008 10:19 PM | Report abuse

When will the McCain stunts end? He keeps throwing things at the wall. Nothing sticks.
He's running a sleazy campaign and it just won't work. We're tired of the hate.

Hope. REAL change. Obama 2008!

Posted by: PA_DC | October 9, 2008 10:19 PM | Report abuse

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It's too little, too late. This should have come out during the primaries. Oh wait, it did, and who's ahead in the poles, that's right, Barack Obama.

I also find it interesting that Republicans are hiding behind the first amendment, while they're busy shredding the fourth

"U.S. Allegedly Listened In on Calls of Americans Abroad

The chairman of the Senate intelligence committee is looking into allegations that a U.S. spy agency improperly eavesdropped on the phone calls of hundreds of Americans overseas, including aid workers and U.S. military personnel talking to their spouses at home."


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Posted by: el_barto | October 9, 2008 10:16 PM | Report abuse

McCain has really lost it. His temper tantrums, his childish behavior, his wandering aimlessly around the stage during the second debate, now this. The next president of the United States will have tremendous problems to handle, the war in Iraq, the war in Afghanistan, a global financial meltdown, health care and mortgage crisis, economic recession and job loss. And what does McCain choose to make his number one issue? Obama served on a board with a former radical - a board by the way sponsored by the conservative Anenberg foundation. What will be the first act of a McCain presidency - to rid the world of old 60's radicals? The man is in a time warp - perhaps in the early stages of Alzheimer's. And he is a throwaway candidate of the Right Wing - being used. Sad (shakes head).

Posted by: lorax2 | October 9, 2008 10:15 PM | Report abuse

officermancuso - So I guess we won't discuss Ayers any more. Nope, not going to mention the self proclaimed and proud of it terrorist. Not going to talk about how he only regrets not doing more. Definitely won't talk about him being a self proclaimed communist. And will just walk away from how he and Obama have a relationship of some sort that Obama seems to not want to explain.
Nope, we're not talking about any of that anymore.

I haven't read this, but I'm sure if someone asked Governor Palin and her husband if they knew, or ever met, Timothy McVeigh, they'd say no.

So that's the end of it, not talking about Ayers anymore. But....have you heard about this guy called Rezko? One of the guys who raised campaign funds for Obama and the governor of Illinois. The guy Obama bought the land from next to his house for a really good deal. He's now a convicted felon and it seems the feds have asked for his sentencing to be delayed. That frequently means they've worked a deal and he's talking about something. No idea what he's saying, but it will be interesting to find out.

Posted by: ty02010 | October 9, 2008 10:14 PM | Report abuse

The Liberal Democrat party has morphed into an Angry, Hate America, Socialist, Big Government, Redistribution of Income, Voter Fraud, Treasonous, Surrendering, Buy Votes with Huge Government Entitlement,Anti Capitalist, Anti Business, Pro Corrupt Union, One World, UN Loving, Euro, Weak Military, Enemy Appeasing, Easy on Terrorists, Anti American stench.

And their Marxist Deceitful South Chicago Political Hack with Terrorists, Racist and Felon connections fits right in.

Posted by: ChangeWhat | October 9, 2008 10:14 PM | Report abuse

paulnolan97 wrote, "Make it a landslide against McCain. Make sure the nazi's and crazy conservatives know and understand that this type of Nazi guilt by association is rejected completely. Let them slither back into their spider holes like Saddam did in Iraq."

Aye!

Posted by: officermancuso | October 9, 2008 10:14 PM | Report abuse

The RNC and McCain are pushing guilt by association. All they have is some evidence of a tenuous and casual relationship between the Obama and Ayers. How about McCains' relationship with Jesse Helms'? Helms was an unabashed racist. Folks, racists are terrorists, supporters of terrorists or sympathetic to terrorists. Several of Helms' former staffers are on McCain's staff. Unlike Obama's association with Ayers, McCain's association with Helms was long and still continues, even after his death. Following logic, those who associate with terrorists are terrorists, therefore, McCain is a terrorist. Silly? Yes, just as is the slandering of Obama.

Posted by: csintala79 | October 9, 2008 10:12 PM | Report abuse

Well said. His son, RFK Jr., wrote an important article in HuffPo recently about late Westbrook Pegler, the legendary antisemite and racist that Palin smilingly quoted in her acceptance speech. RFK Jr. was very hurt by Palin's speech since Pegler said some ugly ultra-violent things about his Dad during his lifetime.

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A couple months ago I watched the movie "Bobby" (2006) about RFK (Robert Frances Kennedy) and his run for the White House in 1968.

America was embroiled in an unpopular war and the country was divided on a number of issues in addition to the war including race and the economy.

"Bobby" the movie was not so much about Bobby the person as much as the wave of optimism that he brought to America. On that horrible day in June 1968 I was one month in Vietnam. I had just gotten over the initial "shock" of the differentness of life as I knew it.

As part of the young (18-30) generation at the time I was certain that when my generation grew up they would not be so careless and enter into an unjustified war. Out of the maybe 500-1,000 Americans I met in 'Nam only a handful thought it was worth the sacrifice.

Did those soldiers die in vain? When someone like McCain or Bush make that kind of remark I am deeply offended. No one can die in vain, God does not consider your life or death in vain, politicians do. Politicians manipulate people for their own ends which have nothing to do with God.

Years later the chief architect of the Johnson Vietnam War, Robert McNamara conceded that the Vietnam war was not winnable and a mistake. The Vietnamese, he learned later saw it as an American occupation (sound familiar), they were NOT going to give in to the occupiers. The American war machine and politicians saw it as containing communism.

Since the American war machine was so strong and the military industrial complex was lining the pockets of the politicians re-election campaigns, it was an unstoppable force. They were willing to throw however many lives it took ... and however much money it took ... only to fail in the end.

The lessons of Vietnam have fallen on the deaf ears of Bush, McCain, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Pearle, Kristol, Rice, and even Powell.

Barack Obama brings the same wave of optimism as RFK did. Had RFK lived our world would have been different. Let's not let the wave slip away again. Make every effort you can to get Barack elected, your children and their children will thank you.

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Posted by: broadwayjoe | October 9, 2008 10:10 PM | Report abuse

guytaur1 wrote,

"Look at the Timing.

"Alaska. Court rules "Troopergate" investigation to go ahead.

"Polls are down for McCain across the country.

"McCains problem is these attacks do not work. They just feed into the erratic claims of the Democrats.

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Have these conspiracy theorists not a single rational bone in their body?

Posted by: officermancuso | October 9, 2008 10:10 PM | Report abuse

Ethically-challenged, America-hating secessionist, tax-cheats for McCain-Palin '08!

Posted by: JPRS | October 9, 2008 10:09 PM | Report abuse

Asian markets now tanking.

McCain is toast...er, panko.

Posted by: wpost4112 | October 9, 2008 10:08 PM | Report abuse

Make it a landslide against McCain. Make sure the nazi's and crazy conservatives know and understand that this type of Nazi guilt by association is rejected completely. Let them slither back into their spider holes like Saddam did in Iraq.

Posted by: paulnolan97 | October 9, 2008 10:06 PM | Report abuse

There is nothing attractive about greed and not all people are greedy, in this case the greedy are the ones that have all the money and just don't want to lose it. These are our politicians, bankers, and Wall Street.

I may not like some of the decsions that McCain makes but I clearly see through the lies of Obama. When Joe Biden was asked what they would have to give up because of the economy he said the money that Obama wants to send to third world countries. Why are we supporting other countries when we can not tke care of our own. McCain clearly stated that he would not send any money out of this country.

The politicians in Washington DC take care of themselves, that is why they have the best pay, best retirement and best health care than any of us. They don't ask our permission to give themselves raises, and it is pretty poor that so many people are out of work and a lot of places are just barely hanging on and can't afford to give out raises, and these small companies that make less than $250,000 a year are shutting down and putting people out of work.

You can all complain about Bush but you all better wake up and realize that this mess was created during the Clinton administration and it is all coming to a fall ou now.I wrote ina na earlier post that he and his administration were paying attention to the Dotcom then the market would have survived in 2001. Again something most Americans do not have any more "personal accountability"

Another thought stop blaming President Bush for all this.I have been saying for years that the fact that illegals send $10,000,000 a month back to their countries and not put it back into the economy it would eventually do harm to it. How long do you think an economy can with stand that much going out and only Americans putting back in?

The mess on wall street and the banks is not going to have a quick fix. It is going to take time to rebuild what they have done. Unfortunately it is Americans like me that will never be able to retire.

There are some that are confused about the bail out, maybe if you listened to what the President said you would understand that they are merely buying paper right now. He said the propertie would not be sold until the Real Estate market recovers. This way they would be sold for a profit and not a loss. And again the question whose fault is this? People buying what they could not afford and that is personal responsibility. Americans over extending thmselves.
Another point Biden stated that he and Obama are pushing to allow Bankruptcy judges to determine what the value of the house is and how much the person could pay. What is wrong with this picture. We are now going to allow Judges to determine what the value of a home is and then reduce the equity on the remainder of the homes?
The real decision here is not Democrats nor Republican but what is best for this country. Obama is a Muslim- he denies it well if this were not true then why was the author of a book against Obama arrested and then deported from his father' and families country? Obama attended a church for 20 years listening to a preacher ridicule and preached about hating America.His wife wrote a thesis on her hatred of America and now wants to be First Lady.Why is Obabma not releasing his birth certificate when it was brought out that he may not be an American? Does he think that when the truth comes out that he has no right to hold that position that there won't be consequences? Why do people ignore the fact that he was involved in ACORN, and has true ties the economical downfall of this country? Most importantly why is it fair for the American people who do pay their mortgages and their bills have to have their taxes increased to pay for thse who chose not to have personal responsibility? What about his shady deal to get his home?

Americans have forgot one important thing, those men and women in Washington they work for us, if we don't like the job they are doing we should fire them. But because so many vote on party lines and not the individual doing the job we are now in a mess.

As I said earlier we have let people bully us into taking God out of the equation. There is a fundamental reason why all of our money has "In God We Trust" because those were the moral and the values of the men who created this country.

Posted by: lynrusso | October 9, 2008 10:05 PM | Report abuse

TonySidaway

"So far, this campaign is playing well with just one constituency: the committed voters. Perhaps that's who it's aimed at. As jeffcoud1 has suggested above, perhaps "they are trying to hold their base to prevent a blowout on down ballot Senate and House races."

Predictions at this stage should be taken with a pinch of salt, but certainly the McCain and RNC campaigns have good reasons to be worried."

Good post, as a conservative republican, McCain will only win this if something dramatic happens. Red meat gets the base moving and hopefully they vote enough to limit losses across the board. McCain has an outside chance but, like Hillary, it's getting very late to swing the tide. He needs something beyond his control - perhaps an international incident or something - that falls into the areas where he is considered stronger. Similar to how Obama has benefited from the economic problems.

Posted by: ty02010 | October 9, 2008 10:03 PM | Report abuse

Words of Wisdom and Policy Knowledge from the McCain campaign's "Energy Expert"

From the Associated Press:

Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, touted by GOP presidential candidate John McCain as his expert on energy, seemed to have problems Thursday explaining whether the government bans oil exports — especially from her state's North Slope fields.

A questioner at a town hall-style meeting in Wisconsin said he had heard that at least 75 percent of the oil drilled in Alaska was being sold to China and said, if true, he would like to know why.

"No. It's not 75 percent of our oil being exported," Palin said, suggesting some of Alaska's oil, in fact, may be going abroad but not that much.

"In fact," she added, "Congress is pretty strict on, um, export bans of oil and gas especially."

No Alaska oil has been exported since 2004, and little if any since 2000, according to the Energy Information Administration and the Congressional Research Service.

And Congress has never imposed outright bans on oil exports. Congress prohibited exports of Alaska oil in 1973 when the Alaska oil pipeline was built. But that ban was lifted in 1996 when there were large volumes of Alaska oil coming down from the North Slope and U.S. demand was soft.

The Alaska ban has never been reinstated.

Posted by: flyfishchef | October 9, 2008 10:02 PM | Report abuse

The last 8 years have been nothing but a slime fest from the Republicans. I am hopeful that one of the reasons McSame is losing is because of this type of B S. Palin is a cold heartless anti intellectual, McSame is a win at any cost kind of spoiled brat, and the Republican party has bankrupted the US. If individuals are ignorant enough and haven't had enough of them over the past decade then they deserve what they get.

I tend to think the American population is much smarter now than the GOP gives them credit for. The Republican party is soulless, useless, and impotent.

Posted by: hmmmmmer | October 9, 2008 10:01 PM | Report abuse

I get the feeling that the Republicans are doing this to get back at McCain...and to set up Palin for 2012/2016. They don't care that McCain is ruining his own reputation...they just want to tear down Obama to weaken his Presidency and set the stage for Frau Palin.

Posted by: wpost4112 | October 9, 2008 9:59 PM | Report abuse

Tony Sidaway wrote, "So far, this campaign is playing well with just one constituency: the committed voters."

I try to constrain my comments so that they won't offend the undecided, but Tony - if you still haven't made up your mind - you're either negligent, ignorant or fastidious.

The fastidious have my respect.

Posted by: officermancuso | October 9, 2008 9:58 PM | Report abuse

Look at the Timing.

Alaska. Court rules "Troopergate" investigation to go ahead.

Polls are down for McCain across the country.

McCains problem is these attacks do not work. They just feed into the erratic claims of the Democrats.

Posted by: guytaur1 | October 9, 2008 9:57 PM | Report abuse

gava2, Raines does not now and has not ever worked for the Obama campaign. Even Rush and Hannity don't spout that lying non-sense anymore.

Raines made ~ $50 Million in salary, bonuses and stock options during his tenure of which he had to give back $7.1 million. Granted that's a lot of dough but it's not $200 Million that you claimed.

Learn to use Google. It'll helping your shilling sound more convincing. Spell check would really help, too.

Posted by: flyfishchef | October 9, 2008 9:55 PM | Report abuse

I want to hear Sarah Palin *and her husband* explicitly disavow Timothy McVeigh, and until then, I want to hear no more about Ayers.

It's unfortunate that this is how we must campaign, but given the landscape, let's get it on.

Posted by: officermancuso | October 9, 2008 9:55 PM | Report abuse

homer4 - True, Ayers has had nothing to do with the economic slide. So, the question then, did McCain have something to do with it? Did Obama? Did Biden? Did Palin? Or are they all basically caught up in the same landslide we are and they're all just terribly afraid to admit that, like us, they have no idea how to fix this?

Posted by: ty02010 | October 9, 2008 9:55 PM | Report abuse

So far, this campaign is playing well with just one constituency: the committed voters. Perhaps that's who it's aimed at. As jeffcoud1 has suggested above, perhaps "they are trying to hold their base to prevent a blowout on down ballot Senate and House races."

Predictions at this stage should be taken with a pinch of salt, but certainly the McCain and RNC campaigns have good reasons to be worried.

Posted by: TonySidaway | October 9, 2008 9:54 PM | Report abuse

"I...read the wash times every day." Stop right there, my friend and fellow prisoner.

My question, have you met the four others in DC who read it too? At one point, as I understand it, it was owned by the Moonies so the Wash Times didn't have to make a profit. And isn't it true, every Saturday, Wash Times devotes a full MULTI-page section to the Civil War and the Confederacy. What civilized newspaper in the US does that?

Be honest you read the Times because it costs 25c and the Wash Post costs 50c. You just don't want to give up the second quarter. Fess up bro. I will. I buy the Wash Times when I can't get to the convenience store to buy Charmin. And, no I don't care about Professor Ayers, O's preacher, his barber, his grocer, his next-door neighbor, his newspaper boy, or his yard man. I don't care...what thinking person does???
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broadwayjoe:
I live in DC and read the washtimes every day. How could you make such a rediculous comment knowing darn well if people were not reading the paper they could not stay in business. Man you liberals can spew lies, hate and discontent. Obama was right in the middle of taking down Freddie Mac and Jenney Mae. He is a lying crook who is out to finish off our great nation. His pal Ayers is a home grown terrorist who admits that he wished he had bombed more targets in the US. His preacher of more than 20 years is another wack job that is all about hating. Obama is not a socilist he is better defined as a communist. God help us all.

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Posted by: broadwayjoe | October 9, 2008 9:52 PM | Report abuse

How weak....Maddog McCain claims to know where Osama is and how to get him. I guess they are holding off until Bristol and Levi finally get hitched so that they can present Osama in chains as a wedding gift.

The only thing more poorly planned and executed than McCain's campaign is the Levi/Bristol nuptuals. How long does it take to get hitched in mooseville? When is litte Bristol gonna start showing? Inquiring minds want to know.

I wish my daughter was named after a NASCAR race.

Posted by: willandjansdad1 | October 9, 2008 9:51 PM | Report abuse

I think McCain and the RNC are starting to get to the point Hillary Clinton got to at the end of the primaries. They see their end is near. All daylight is vanishing. Their only hope is to resort to the politics of personal destruction.

There are laws against hate speech. Are McCain and Palin breaking laws when they begin inciting people in their audiences to yell, "Kill Him!"

Are McCain and Palin's only chance left to incite literal destruction of their opponent?

Would they be prosecuted for aiding and abetting such an act?

Posted by: MNobserver | October 9, 2008 9:50 PM | Report abuse

mavisdarling - no, I think you have heard the last of that. I think Ayers is still dead and I think he's staying that way.

Posted by: ty02010 | October 9, 2008 9:49 PM |


OOOPS Type, I mean Vogler. Ayers is alive and kicking and he'll stay that way also.

Posted by: ty02010 | October 9, 2008 9:50 PM | Report abuse

mavisdarling - no, I think you have heard the last of that. I think Ayers is still dead and I think he's staying that way.

Posted by: ty02010 | October 9, 2008 9:49 PM | Report abuse

The Solution to the Economic Crisis is NOT to place a former cocaine user in charge of the World's Largest Economy.
Bush II is already in charge of the world's largest economy and you see what a mess he has made of it.
PS. Former coke user Bush II cannot run for a 3rd term.

Posted by: ottothewise | October 9, 2008 9:48 PM | Report abuse

mavisdarling - so the best way to fix this is to bring all the dirt out and then let the public decide who's dirt is the dirtiest?

Posted by: ty02010 | October 9, 2008 9:47 PM | Report abuse

My 401k is worth 65 percent of what it was a year ago. Last time I checked, William Ayres had nothing to do with the horrible financial problems that the United States is undergoing.

Posted by: homer4 | October 9, 2008 9:46 PM | Report abuse

John, it's obvious. No one is going to buy this snake oil except your already loyal legions.

In the meantime the majority of US voters are moving forward, with or without you.

Posted by: h0ldem | October 9, 2008 9:45 PM | Report abuse

Todd Palin belonged to the AIP. Sarah spoke to their convention this year, I believe. Quote from Joe Vogler, founder:

"I'm an Alaskan, not an American. I've got no use for America or her damned institutions."

From the New York Times, 1994:

"Fingerprint tests show that human remains found in a gravel pit east of Fairbanks on Wednesday are those of Joe Vogler, the founder of the Alaskan Independence Party, who vanished in May 1993, Alaska state troopers said today.

The discovery of the remains, following an anonymous tip to the authorities, apparently resolves a year-and-a-half-old mystery concerning Mr. Vogler, a folk hero throughout the state who was 80 when he disappeared from his home here.

The blue tarp and duct tape in which the remains were wrapped, officials said, matched a description given by a convicted thief, Manfred West, who confessed last summer that he had killed Mr. Vogler in a plastic-explosives sale gone bad and had then buried him."

I don't think we've heard the last of this.

Posted by: mavisdarling | October 9, 2008 9:45 PM | Report abuse

Dear Mr. Cilliza:

I have a simple question or two? Why don't you and your peers write about things that matter like the economy, health care, social security, war, peace, etc., instead of the gutter and sewer stuff that McCain and his thugs are spewing out in desperation? Don't you realize that writing about this stuff over and over again you aiding and abetting the lies?

Let McCain and his thugs shout this stuff out at the rallies and no where else.

Posted by: pbarnett52 | October 9, 2008 9:45 PM | Report abuse

McCain needs to shake him up a little bit and stick to his message - the Change We Trust and putting Country First. He needs to tell America that he has the gut and courages (avoid using the word experience ) to make the right decisions, not just once, but all his life for the good of the Country, especially during tough times in contrasting to his opponent who has demonstrated a pattern of making easy and dangerously unthoughtful ones such as joining the "hatred segments" in the early days that advocated violence on our soils and promoting a defeat in Iraq that will put our standing next to nothing. He needs to tell America that his opponent never has the experience of making tough choices, and in our time under this economic turbulence, do you really trust him to lead us out of this difficult time. He needs to turn the current financial crises to work for him, not against him. Good luck in November.

Posted by: Hurt2008 | October 9, 2008 9:44 PM | Report abuse

walker1 - Please get you slanders correct, us republicans are normally called something like fascists. Communists are on the other end of the political spectrum.

Posted by: ty02010

We're confused now that McCain has a housing plan to give another $300 billion additional to the mortgage holder banks.
The new plan announced during debate #2 consists of GIVING US tax payers' money to the banks holding mortgages. If the value of the house is now less than the original mortgage, the bank gets the difference in cash from McCain. That seems like a commie plot to we taxpayers who dont own a house.
Let us know when you come up with a name for giving tax payer money to bankers in the amount of $300 billion. There is no plan to get it back. We just write them a check for every house whose value has gone down. Seems commie to me.
I'd much rather see that money go to rebuild America and put Americans back to work on roads and bridges, but that's a union guy talkin'.

Posted by: ottothewise | October 9, 2008 9:43 PM | Report abuse

The Weather Underground was actively opposing wars of foreign aggression and corporate greed back when Republicans first started the American downfall.

Protest the RNC.

Posted by: anarcho-liberal-tarian | October 9, 2008 9:42 PM | Report abuse

A couple months ago I watched the movie "Bobby" (2006) about RFK (Robert Frances Kennedy) and his run for the White House in 1968.

America was embroiled in an unpopular war and the country was divided on a number of issues in addition to the war including race and the economy.

"Bobby" the movie was not so much about Bobby the person as much as the wave of optimism that he brought to America. On that horrible day in June 1968 I was one month in Vietnam. I had just gotten over the initial "shock" of the differentness of life as I knew it.

As part of the young (18-30) generation at the time I was certain that when my generation grew up they would not be so careless and enter into an unjustified war. Out of the maybe 500-1,000 Americans I met in 'Nam only a handful thought it was worth the sacrifice.

Did those soldiers die in vain? When someone like McCain or Bush make that kind of remark I am deeply offended. No one can die in vain, God does not consider your life or death in vain, politicians do. Politicians manipulate people for their own ends which have nothing to do with God.

Years later the chief architect of the Johnson Vietnam War, Robert McNamara conceded that the Vietnam war was not winnable and a mistake. The Vietnamese, he learned later saw it as an American occupation (sound familiar), they were NOT going to give in to the occupiers. The American war machine and politicians saw it as containing communism.

Since the American war machine was so strong and the military industrial complex was lining the pockets of the politicians re-election campaigns, it was an unstoppable force. They were willing to throw however many lives it took ... and however much money it took ... only to fail in the end.

The lessons of Vietnam have fallen on the deaf ears of Bush, McCain, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Pearle, Kristol, Rice, and even Powell.

Barack Obama brings the same wave of optimism as RFK did. Had RFK lived our world would have been different. Let's not let the wave slip away again. Make every effort you can to get Barack elected, your children and their children will thank you.

Posted by: kkrimmer | October 9, 2008 9:41 PM | Report abuse

You know what's really completely insane (beside the hooligans at the McCain/Palin rallies, who are starting to sound like thugs from Germany in the 30's, just showing their true selves?)

Ty02010 says "we messed up". Messed up? Hmmm. We've been fighting two wars for six years with no end in sight. We're now facing the biggest economic crisis since the Great Depression. And you just shrug and say "hey we messed up?" You think this is funny? You must not be planning to retire any time in the next decade or two.

Well I didn't mess up! I told my two Republican brothers in no uncertain terms 8 years ago what would happen if Bush got elected. And I've voted for Republicans before, but no way would vote for that idiot! The only mistake I made was not being quite pessimistic enough!

So now I'm saying the same thing again - and I'll be right again! I'm saying that if Republicans get rewarded with the Presidency for a third term in a row after what they have done to our great country - still the greatest in the world -, then we might as well declare a dictatorship. Might as well give them the Presidency permanently. Because if you vote for them now after everything that has happened, what could they possibly do to make you NOT vote for them, short of getting us into nuclear war? And if Palin gets in because McCain keels over, that is even a distinct possibility! She'd love it - she'd giggle over helping to bring on the End Times!

Posted by: orrg1 | October 9, 2008 9:41 PM | Report abuse

I cannot help but think that the liberals here would rather steal an election vice play by the rules. The subversive brance of the democratic party know as ACORN has been commiting election fruad for years and now they are starting to feel the heat. Their effort to get a huge chunk of the bail-out collasped after they were found out and kicked to the curb. Harold Raines who now works for the Obama campaign was found cooking the books over at Freddy Mac and was asked to leave. His parting gift was a little over 200 million. This stinks to high heaven. The man was a crook and he is working for obama. ACORN was another element that took down Freddie Mac because they were pushing hard for this institution to provide mortgages to people who could not afford them. What a bunch of crooks.

Posted by: gava2 | October 9, 2008 9:40 PM | Report abuse

This ad is so lame. It is beyond the pale of inconsequential. What has happened to my party? We used to stand for something.

Posted by: draidoir | October 9, 2008 9:39 PM | Report abuse

You know, all these smears against Obama have been raised already, and he's not sunk yet. The MAJOR problem with this strategy to smear him is this:

Sarah Palin.

Sorry to keep harping on it, but Sarah has her own MAJOR religion issues, anti-American issues, ethics issues, legal issues, etc. etc. etc.

If McCain had picked somebody like Romney, all these smears on Obama would have more teeth, but with Palin it just isn't going to WORK. Palin has way more baggage than Obama does, and believe me, we will be hearing about it shortly!

Posted by: mavisdarling | October 9, 2008 9:39 PM | Report abuse

What is Obama's real connection to him. Inquiring minds want to know. Should be easy and take 5 minutes for Barack to put an end to it.

He did, he said, the guy did terrible things that I dont approve of.
I didnt know he was a terrorist when he hosted my state senate kickoff party. He had an advanced degree from Columbia and everyone at the party treated him like a prince. How should I know he had been a bad guy 40 years ago.

And now from the right wing: THERE REALLY WERE WMDs in IRAQ. YOU CANNOT PROVE THERE WERE NOT. THEY JUST DIDNT USE THEM.

With that logic, nothing Obama can say will matter to the tin-foil hat crowd.

Posted by: ottothewise | October 9, 2008 9:38 PM | Report abuse

Hate to admit it but HRC, Hannity, Rush, Stephanopolous, and the rest did help--a lot. They and the media lemmings talked about Wright, Resko, and Ayers non-stop for about four weeks straight and people eventually got sick of it.
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Hillary did Obama a favor: by dragging out all that Ayers/Wright stuff during the primaries, she's made it old news now. It was lame them, it's even lamer now. Poor Ronald Reagan is spinning in his grave. Barry Goldwater, too. Bush gave conservatism a bad name, and McCain, Palin and the RNC is now MURDERING conservatism.

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Posted by: broadwayjoe | October 9, 2008 9:37 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin has sexual relation with Tod Palin, a well known member of the Alaska Independent Party, which promote secession from the United States. As far as I am aware, this relation with a renegade promoting independence is still continuing.

Posted by: nagamas1 | October 9, 2008 9:37 PM | Report abuse

gava2 wrote: "Obama was right in the middle of taking down Freddie Mac and Jenney Mae."

I'm not sure who "Jenney Mae" is. Was she on Hee-Haw?

Do you have any FACTS to substantiate your argument? Such as Obama blocking investigations into Fannie Mae or Freddy Mac like McCain attempted to do with his pal Charles Keating and was reprimanded by his Senate colleagues for?

Do you have any proof of Obama sponsoring legislation in favor of Freddy Mac or Fannie Mae at the expense of regulatory oversight?

Present a few FACTS to substantiate your claims rather than just shill RNC talking points you heard on Limbaugh/Hannity/Fox.

Posted by: flyfishchef | October 9, 2008 9:37 PM | Report abuse

It'd be nice if some of the people on here would learn how to spell. Enough said.

Posted by: jeffcoud1 | October 9, 2008 9:34 PM | Report abuse

officermancuso - wow, now that's a stretch. Google some more and try again.

Posted by: ty02010 | October 9, 2008 9:34 PM | Report abuse

37thandOStreet - very good, it appears that you have mastered the art of cutting and pasting. Now, if you could only think! You, McSame and that mutt Palin can spew your vile filth until the end of time, but it doesn't make your lies true.

Why don't you just admit that you're a racist and you don't want some Uppity Black man becoming president? All of your KKK friends will be proud of you. You'll be able to pick your knuckles up off the ground and hold your hollow head high! Then you can go down to the corner bar with your equally nit-witted wing-nut friends, tell them how you put the latte liberals in their places and drink until you pass out.

Posted by: xconservative | October 9, 2008 9:34 PM | Report abuse

walker1 - Please get you slanders correct, us republicans are normally called something like fascists. Communists are on the other end of the political spectrum.

Posted by: ty02010 | October 9, 2008 9:32 PM | Report abuse

officermancuso - I must have missed something, what does Sarah Palin have to do with McVeigh?

Posted by: ty02010

Todd Palin and Oklahoma City bomber, the domestic terrorist TIm McVeigh, both members of secessionist groups, related by links on the Alaskan Independence Party's website.

Posted by: ottothewise | October 9, 2008 9:31 PM | Report abuse

Palen substitutes racism and incites violence in place of providing substance in these trying times......

Posted by: aeaustin | October 9, 2008 9:31 PM | Report abuse

orrg1 - you gotta do what you gotta do.

Posted by: ty02010 | October 9, 2008 9:30 PM | Report abuse

37th and O, why do you keep posting? You offer nothing new, no ideas, just reflexive defense of a regime that is crashing down all around you. I wish you well in your efforts to live a life funded by a blog. And might I add, most sane people would tell you (and some no doubt have) that that project will come to naught.

But never mind, plunge ahead, and offer your moral poverty as a standard for others to emulate.

It's helpful to the campaign you oppose, for efforts like yours to be extremely visible.

That's the sort of double-bind your candidate is in now.

Posted by: officermancuso | October 9, 2008 9:29 PM | Report abuse

What is this commie GOP whining about now?

They have lost the election; Congress and Senate as well as the Presidency.

No American voter will ever vote for that commie GOP bunch of traitors ever again.

Posted by: walker1 | October 9, 2008 9:29 PM | Report abuse

Let me get this straight: the economy is going to h@ll, thanks to legislation enacted not only by Republicans but by McCain's top financial adviser Phil Gramm, and they want us to worry about some school committee meetings Obama had with a guy who was a radical forty years ago?

C'mon, SERIOUSLY?! Is this the best they have? Because I'm thinking they're throwing this election. You cannot be this inept and be trying (well, I guess you can if you're W).

Hillary did Obama a favor: by dragging out all that Ayers/Wright stuff during the primaries, she's made it old news now. It was lame them, it's even lamer now. Poor Ronald Reagan is spinning in his grave. Barry Goldwater, too. Bush gave conservatism a bad name, and McCain, Palin and the RNC is now MURDERING conservatism.

Posted by: gbooksdc | October 9, 2008 9:29 PM | Report abuse

ChangeWhat spewed - Obama, the Socialist, is a South Chicago Political Hack. He is deceitful. He has had or even does have close associations with TERRORISTS, RACISTS, FELONS and ACORN.
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Well, if he has close associations with racists, then I'm sure he'll like you.

I recommend that you put down your crayon and go take your meds. Maybe when they kick in you won't sound so insane. The only cretins that believe your ramblings are your fellow Rush Limbaugh Dildo-heads.

Try going over to his message board, you'll feel right at home and you won't even need to take your medication!

Posted by: xconservative | October 9, 2008 9:29 PM | Report abuse

gosh, the GOP running a hate campaign, now there's a shock! Actually, my analysis of where they are going shows they are trying to hold their base to prevent a blowout on down ballot Senate and House races. McCain/Palin have lost. And sadly, John McCain has lost his credibility in the process. He's not only channeling Karl Rove, he's channeling Lee Atwater. He was once a pretty good guy...no more. And Sarah Palin is a total joke. Her son the school bus vandal is more of a terrorist than anyone invoked in this campaign. These people got some nerve.

Posted by: jeffcoud1 | October 9, 2008 9:29 PM | Report abuse

The headline is misleading. It should read, McCain raves, mentions Obama's brief professional relationship with the 1997 CHICAGO MAN OF THE YEAR, a doctor of education and important man in Chicago educational circles, with whom even McCain's own supporter L. Annenberg has frequent professional contact.

What a liar McCain is. VOTE OBAMA in 08 and end the repression of the Constitution by the fearmongering terror peddlars.

Posted by: ottothewise | October 9, 2008 9:29 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, ty-O I'm a lot more scared that McCain'll lose his marbles (if he hasn't already) than Obama will.

Posted by: orrg1 | October 9, 2008 9:28 PM | Report abuse

Hmmmm. I haven't heard much about that shrieking witch Palin today on the internet news, except for the fact that the Alaska Supreme Court ruled unanimously to let the ethics investigation against her proceed.

Gee, is she hiding out somewhere, just waiting for the proverbial you-know-what to hit the fan?

I'm sorry, but these scary-movie Republican attack ads are so pointless. Don't they realize that people are FED up with this stuff? Nobody watches those ads. They get up off the couch to go potty or get another beer outta the fridge when these nasty ads come on.

Obama should do a documentary on Sarah Palin, though. Not with a scary-movie aura, just stick the facts. The facts about Palin are enough to sink McCain. No innuendo needed.

Posted by: mavisdarling | October 9, 2008 9:28 PM | Report abuse

officermancuso - I must have missed something, what does Sarah Palin have to do with McVeigh?

Posted by: ty02010 | October 9, 2008 9:25 PM | Report abuse

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The Solution to the Economic Crisis is NOT to place a former cocaine user like Obama in charge of the World's Largest Economy.


Are you completely insane?


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Posted by: 37thandOStreet | October 9, 2008 9:25 PM | Report abuse

broadwayjoe:
I live in DC and read the washtimes every day. How could you make such a rediculous comment knowing darn well if people were not reading the paper they could not stay in business. Man you liberals can spew lies, hate and discontent. Obama was right in the middle of taking down Freddie Mac and Jenney Mae. He is a lying crook who is out to finish off our great nation. His pal Ayers is a home grown terrorist who admits that he wished he had bombed more targets in the US. His preacher of more than 20 years is another wack job that is all about hating. Obama is not a socilist he is better defined as a communist. God help us all.

Posted by: gava2 | October 9, 2008 9:24 PM | Report abuse

"John the Painter was a terrorist before the word ‘terrorist’ entered the English language. In 1776-77 he imagined a new type of campaign of domestic violence against the interests of the British crown, one that involved arson attacks against the Royal Navy’s shipyards and for which he was hanged. The best then-current phrase to describe his acts was ‘incendiary,’ which captured both the nature of his attacks and their impact on English public opinion." Lockhard, 2005.

American history has not always been peaceful but rather "incendiary"... Throughout the years as a nation, groups of people, have resorted to force to make a difference ...example the American Revolution anyone?....Boston Tea Party (riot) ....the 60's... Rather than believing McShame's party rhetoric against domestic terrorist, go back and read America's history and how we came to be...

Posted by: LMM48 | October 9, 2008 9:23 PM | Report abuse

orrg1 - you're right, we messed up. Let's rectify this and agree to not vote for anyone again who has done coke - OK?

Posted by: ty02010 | October 9, 2008 9:23 PM | Report abuse

The only people who care about this bilge (as evidenced by O's going up in the national and state-by-state polls (up to 11 in Gallup) since the Ayers smears began) are the Yahoos who yell slurs and incite violence at Mac/Palin separatist rallies.

Ayers is a respected tenured college professor and a nationally famous education policy expert and happens to be O's neighbor. Why wouldn't O talk to him? Is he supposed to shun him??? This is distracting bigoted junk. But please keep it up right through election day, independents and undecideds worried about their jobs and mortgages and health care are loving this -- not. Oh, wasn't Mac 58 when he dealt with Keating?
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Obama is telling tall tales from the hip. His associations with Ayers is old and well known and he only claims that it is a guy from my neighberhood. His wife is good friends with Ayers wife and Ayers hosted his political coming out party. This is something that the american people need to know before the election. A presdident who is good friends with a terrorist is a man that cannot and should not be trusted under any circumstance. Now we see that Obama is trying to distance himself from another former employer known as ACORN. He trained new hires how to be operatives in this subversive organization that specializes in voter fraud. This very moment this group is being investigated for their subversive efforts. The american people should see this man for what he is and what horrible consequence could fall out from him being elected president. God help us all.

Posted by: gava2 | October 9, 2008 9:09 PM

Posted by: broadwayjoe | October 9, 2008 9:23 PM | Report abuse

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The Solution to the Economic Crisis is NOT to place a former cocaine user in charge of the World's Largest Economy.


Are you completely insane?


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Bookmark It Now !!!!

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The Solution to the Economic Crisis is NOT to place a former cocaine user in charge of the World's Largest Economy.


Are you completely insane?


Voted One Of The Nation's Top 5 Political Blogs For The Election Of 2008:


http://www.myspace.com/37thandostreet


Bookmark It Now !!!!

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Posted by: 37thandOStreet | October 9, 2008 9:23 PM | Report abuse

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A great deal has been said of Obama as head of the Harvard Law Review - however the evidence is that he was voted into that position because the people thought it would be "cool" to have a black in there, not because he was more qualified than the other students.


Having said that, Obama NEVER wrote for the Harvard Law Review.


There is NOT ONE ARTICLE WRITTEN BY OBAMA IN THE HARVARD LAW REVIEW.


There is a pattern of Obama getting positions or jobs through affirmative action and then NOT doing those jobs.


1) First, he took a position in the class at Harvard Law School (from a white student) however Obama NEVER became a lawyer,


2) Obama became head of the Harvard Law Review, however Obama NEVER wrote a law review article.


3) Obama became a State Senator however Obama RARELY voted yes or not, voting present many many times - Emil Jones placed Obama's name on numerous bills which were Emil's work, and Obama took credit for Emil's work because someone decided that Obama was going to be pushed forward.


4) Obama was selected to be the Chairman of the SubCommittee to review NATO's role in Afghanistan however Obama NEVER held any hearings of this SubCommittee.


5) Obama was elected to the US Senator, however instead of doing his job as a Senator Obama went on a book tour and started a campaign for President - HOW MUCH TIME HAS HE REALLY SPENT ACTUALLY BEING A SENATOR ???


Sorry However NONE OF THIS IS IMPRESSIVE. In fact, it is rather sad.

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Posted by: 37thandOStreet | October 9, 2008 9:22 PM | Report abuse

I would like to hear Sarah Palin explicitly condemn Timothy McVeigh.

Posted by: officermancuso | October 9, 2008 9:22 PM | Report abuse

officermancuso - I note your reference, and I have no disagreement with you. Viet Nam was a trying time for this nation. Some comments are over the top and need to be severely rebuked as such.

I understand that a lot of what is said in the forums is absolutely off the wall. It is serious for some, entertaining for others. Others are probably doing this because between now and the election this is their job. But...

Posted by: ty02010 | October 9, 2008 9:22 PM | Report abuse

Yes, 37andOthat'smyIQ

Cocaine use by a Presidential candidate is troubling. The guy might fall off the wagon and screw up the entire country!

So why DID you vote for Bush twice?

Posted by: orrg1 | October 9, 2008 9:21 PM | Report abuse

lichtme asked, "How soon before McCain Death Squads, like the ones he supports in Columbia, start winning this election for him?"

Unfortunately, that's a serious question. How low will Republicans go?

Posted by: officermancuso | October 9, 2008 9:20 PM | Report abuse

What do you mean, McSame would be branded a war criminal? He was. I now live in Thailand just one hour from Vietnam. In the last few months I've been to Vietnam twice, both to Hanoi and Ho Chi Minh City (Saigon). I've been to the war museums in both cities, but the trip to one in Saigon was especially illuminating. Just outside the museum was a man selling books, including "The Tunnels of Chu Chi". He had two stumps where his arms should have been, thanks to our war in Vietnam. I bought the book from him, paying much more than I should have while my English companion asked me why I was paying too much. I said, "You wouldn't quite understand what I am feeling right now as an American." I paid the Vietnamese man by placing Vietnamese currency into one of his stumps where a hand should have been. Inside the museum but in an open area were a number of tanks, artillery pieces, Sams, and aircraft used on both sides. Then inside one of the buildings were a number of pictures showing American warplanes defoliating huge segments of the Vietnamese countryside with agent orange, pictures of children horribly maimed by agent orange and bombs, and also pictures of a "few heroes of Vietnam", men and women manning the Sam batteries similar to the one that shot down Migraine's warplane. Migraine while fighting for his country in American eyes was no doubt very successful making paraplegics out of innocent Vietnamese women and children. Today there are a disproportionate number of Vietnamese in both Hanoi and Ho Chi Minh City with stumps where arms or legs had once been.

Posted by: jackcorbett | October 9, 2008 9:20 PM | Report abuse

McCain choose to associate himself with the Bush 30 -- a group that has done more to undermine the economic and national security of this country than any 60s radical, or foreign terrorist.

A vote for McCain-Palin '08 is a vote against America and the American way of life.

Posted by: JPRS | October 9, 2008 9:20 PM | Report abuse

There is a new forum at the polling site http://www.votenic.com so see what America thinks.

Posted by: votenic | October 9, 2008 9:19 PM | Report abuse

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Cocaine Use by a Presidential candidate is an issue - I feel very sorry for you that you believe that this country should be run by someone who is a former cocaine user - WHAT IF OBAMA WHEN TIMES ARE TOUGH DECIDES TO GO BACK TO COCAINE USE ???


WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO SAY THEN?

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Posted by: 37thandOStreet | October 9, 2008 9:18 PM | Report abuse

Check out Joe Vogler, Sarah Palin's anti-U.S. Government buddy!

Posted by: aeaustin | October 9, 2008 9:18 PM | Report abuse

Furthermore, let's REALLY talk about HONESTY.

No matter how many times the Associated Press discount these claims, nothing is too slimy for McCain to embrace.

If McCain was REALLY being honest, he'd stop these DISHONEST ADS!

Posted by: ethanquern | October 9, 2008 9:18 PM | Report abuse

ty02010 wrote, "to accuse someone of being a war criminal when you don't know what they have done is about as low as you can go."

Yeah, that's right up there with accusing someone of being a terrorist.

Posted by: officermancuso | October 9, 2008 9:18 PM | Report abuse

Hey ChangeWhat,

You are posting a bunch of malarkey. Where are your sources? Are you making over $250K a year? Or are you being paid by the McFeign campaign to spread more lies while people all over the country are worried about the economy right now? It's irresponsible to post stuff that is false. Your post about taxes is all false. The data is everywhere on the internet. Most people know that if you are middle class you will receive about 3 times more tax cut from Obama than McCain. This decision is important to them. If you post false stuff that leads someone to make the wrong decision that will affect their financials worse when they are already suffering the downturn of the economy right now, that irresponsible.

Posted by: Liberty77 | October 9, 2008 9:17 PM | Report abuse

Disgusting. I don't care if Ayers and Obama even slept together. What of it?

What about McCain's associations with Iran-Contra groups? What about Charles Keating? If we want to talk character, how does he POSSIBLY explain his desertion of his first wife when she was in the condition she was in?

Any discussion of character McCain loses. He's one of the most brutal, inconsiderate, intellectually lazy, arrogant and angry men in politics today.

Of course, Cillizza wants to give it as much airplay as he can. He's been just an abhorent mouthpiece of the GOP since this election cycle began. He, and the Post should be ashamed of his lopsided reporting.

This column should be retitled GOPnews because that's all Cillizza has bothered to give us.

Posted by: ethanquern | October 9, 2008 9:16 PM | Report abuse

Republicans. Can they get any stupider? They should be careful what they wish for, but now it's too late!

First - with the economy crashing, normal people look at them and say "Ayers, what, are you kidding - so you're admitting you want to just change the subject and have nothing to offer?" and McCain/Palin's poll numbers drop another 5 points.

Second - Now McCain is stuck. He has to do the bidding of the kook fringe - and he's been called a coward if he doesn't mention this garbage to Obama's face. So he'll bring up Wright, Ayers, Rezko at the Wednesday debate. What a hanging curve for Obama! Except to the tinfoil hat crowd, this stuff has been vetted up and down, inside and out. Since they can't read very well, and have poor comprehension to boot, they don't know this, ha! McCain'll look like a complete, out of touch, old fool! Then Obama can just go down a list of McCain and Palin's questionable associations, mention who they are- say he's been too concerned with the issues to go there, but since McCain did it first... and then just leave it hanging there. BOOM! Thank you, Wingnuts, you've sprung the trap, and now it's too late!

Posted by: orrg1 | October 9, 2008 9:16 PM | Report abuse

What beautiful film making! The RNC may hate Hollywood, but they sure do love all the techniques that Hollywood uses to scare the pants off the audience.

Show us the love!

--
thomp
http://noflyzonepictures.com/sarah-palin.html

Posted by: thomp | October 9, 2008 9:14 PM | Report abuse

It's interesting watching John McCain destroy his legacy with this turn to the Rove Side...

Even more interesting in that it's all for nil. He's done.
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Why would America REWARD complete Republican failure ?

We wont.

Posted by: PulSamsara | October 9, 2008 9:14 PM | Report abuse

ty02010, with all due respect to the importance of your family in our nation's history, I think the comment in question had more to do with Lt. William Calley and Pvt. Lynndie England.

Posted by: officermancuso | October 9, 2008 9:14 PM | Report abuse

Is Palin the Pentecostal also going to "save" the Jews? Is McCain/Palin's ranting about Obama the Terrorist Pal inciting violence?? Scary......

McCain's "Straight Talk Express"...ha, ha, another flip-flop!

Check out Joe Vogler, Palin's buddy....

Posted by: aeaustin | October 9, 2008 9:12 PM | Report abuse

Obama, the Socialist, is a South Chicago Political Hack. He is deceitful. He has had or even does have close associations with TERRORISTS, RACISTS, FELONS and ACORN.

Why is that so difficult for any clear thinking American to understand. His supporters are naive, ignorant and embarrassingly indoctrinated into his cult.

He IS a FRAUD. A deceitful FRAUD!

And, as a bonus, he has a very angry bitter racist wife.

If that is not enough, he WILL raise your taxes. He is a Socialist, big government, redistribution on income political hack.

Posted by: ChangeWhat | October 9, 2008 9:12 PM | Report abuse

America is about achievement and conduct not status and association. McCain should run where kings and queens and aristocrats govern, not in the land of the free and home of the brave, where people are judged on what they do now. His approach is fundamentally unamerican because its based on someone's status from years ago that has no bearing on what Obama has done or will do now.

Posted by: paulnolan97 | October 9, 2008 9:11 PM | Report abuse

How soon before McCain Death Squads,

like the ones he supports in Columbia,

start winning this election for him?

Posted by: lichtme | October 9, 2008 9:10 PM | Report abuse

officermancuso - Well, people are different aren't they. But to accuse someone of being a war criminal when you don't know what they have done is about as low as you can go.

I have had relatives in the military, my father was a German POW - he told his harrowing tales only once in his life. My brother served a tour in vietnam, he was much more open about his experiences.

When a person takes a general swipe at anyone who has served in war without knowing their whole story, they take a swipe at everyone. That says much more about who they are than the person they have disparaged.

Posted by: ty02010 | October 9, 2008 9:10 PM | Report abuse

McCain chooses to associate himself with Bush. From supporting the Iraq war, to deregulating Wall Street and the Banks, to tax cuts for the super rich, to the illegal wiretapping and Guantanamo, it goes on and on, But the worst of it lies in trying to privatize social security and put the security of millions of retirees on Wall Street. This was McCain's baby and would have been his crowning achievement. But the Dems and Obama stopped him. That's why millions of American retirees can even eat food today. McCain's policies would have resulted in them only being able to afford cat food.

Posted by: magnifco1000 | October 9, 2008 9:09 PM | Report abuse

Obama is telling tall tales from the hip. His associations with Ayers is old and well known and he only claims that it is a guy from my neighberhood. His wife is good friends with Ayers wife and Ayers hosted his political coming out party. This is something that the american people need to know before the election. A presdident who is good friends with a terrorist is a man that cannot and should not be trusted under any circumstance. Now we see that Obama is trying to distance himself from another former employer known as ACORN. He trained new hires how to be operatives in this subversive organization that specializes in voter fraud. This very moment this group is being investigated for their subversive efforts. The american people should see this man for what he is and what horrible consequence could fall out from him being elected president. God help us all.

Posted by: gava2 | October 9, 2008 9:09 PM | Report abuse

Is Palin the Pentecostal also going to "save" the Jews? Is McCain/Palin's ranting about Obama the Terrorist Pal inciting violence?? Scary......

McCain's "Straight Talk Express"...ha, ha, another flip-flop!

Posted by: aeaustin | October 9, 2008 9:09 PM | Report abuse

Let me check my history: since 1968, that's 40 years to be exact, a Republican has sat in the White House for 28 of those years.

Since 1980, that's 28 years to be exact, a republican has sat in the White House for for 20 of those years.

Since 1994; that's 14 years to be exact, the Republicans have controlled the House and the Senate for 12 of those years, and eight of those have controlled 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue at the same time.

Would someone tell what the Democratic Party, and the LIBERAL Left,have been doing to undermine the financial system of the world during those times that they were powerless, and what Mr. Ayers has to do with anything. He's a professor now, a respected man in the community, Chicago's Man of The Year in 1977,and a respected voice in the educational community.

As far as I can remember the Republicans have been the captain of the ship for quite a while, and the social conservatives have had unlimited power for the last six of eight years.

And bye-the-bye McCain has been there for what? 26 of those years?

Posted by: Clamm21 | October 9, 2008 9:09 PM | Report abuse

I do agree that real questions need answers about this Ayers connection. I don't care about the bombings if the Justice Department doesn't. I am concerned that Obama was able to impress this very influential communist activist. Ayers held Obama's political 'coming out party' and continued to personally contribute to Obama's campaign??? Obama might not know Ayers, but Ayers seems to know Obama. What's up with that? Check out my blog on this very subject http://www.liberty-gazette.com

Posted by: Liberty_Gazette | October 9, 2008 9:07 PM | Report abuse

New dreck just posted by Drudge:

"WASH TIMES Friday: Obama secretly tried to sway Iraqi government to ignore Bush deal on keeping troops in Iraq... Developing..."

"WASH Times" is the DC newspaper version of Fox News, no one buys it or reads it in DC. It is a conduit for extremist junk; every Saturday it has a special section devoted to the Civil War and the Confederacy.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | October 9, 2008 9:06 PM | Report abuse

plaza04433 - who said Obama is a terrorist? The statement is that Ayers is the terrorist, Obama has an as of yet unclarified relationship with Ayers, Ayers admits he feels he didn't do enough terrorism and that he's a communist (small c). So, he admits he was and still is pretty radical. What is Obama's real connection to him. Inquiring minds want to know. Should be easy and take 5 minutes for Barack to put an end to it.

Posted by: ty02010 | October 9, 2008 9:05 PM | Report abuse

ty02010 wrote, "toritto - So now our military who served in vietnam are war criminals. This is tired and old. I respect those who served in vietnam, before vietnam, and after vietnam. This is 2008, not 1968. Try to stay in this century."

Unfortunately, not everyone who's worn an American uniform is a human rights hero. I think we've learned that, in this 21'st century, and I think the wisdom could be applied retroactively to Viet Nam and other wars.

If you've ever had a relative who was a "war hero", you may have noticed a reluctance on their part to give speeches about their greatness. War is Hell, and statesmen who enter into it without understanding that are committing a crime against their own nation's armed forces.

Posted by: officermancuso | October 9, 2008 9:05 PM | Report abuse

More Fear & Smear tactics to distract the American people -
From the Troopergate report coming tomorrow
From McCain's plunge in the polls
From the mess McCain and the neocons have made of the global economy and America's international reputation

The RNC omits significant information: Ayres was appointed by Annenberg, a Reagan associate, to the charity board on which Senator Obama also served.

Posted by: bamccampbell | October 9, 2008 9:04 PM | Report abuse

Republicans are a vile bunch. Absolutely nothing to run on. They have bankrupted the middle class. Put our national security at risk.
Where are all the smiling pics of Obama and Ayers? Rehabilitation is only for republicans. How about George W with a smiling Abramoff picture? Got one. Or Rumsfeld shaking hands with Saddam? Got one. These base repugs are goons and hypocrites. Unfortunately, our dumbed down, low information voters are many.

Posted by: RMB2 | October 9, 2008 9:03 PM | Report abuse

ty02010,

You offered exactly ZERO facts or evidence to support your argument. No proof of filibuster threat, no demand by Republican leadership to bring the bill to the floor, nothing.

If that's what you term "winning", revel in it.

Don't let the facts, or in your case the lack of facts, get in the way of your vainglory.

BTW, do you know who was the Chairman of the Senate Banking Committee when this supposed Democratic blocking of the bill was going on in 2005? One Richard Shelby, R-AL, who had plenty of power to get bills he favored to the floor in coordination with his close friend, Bill Frist, R- TN, Senate Majority Leader.

You've got nothing but 20/20 hindsight and RNC revisionist history. But, keep shilling. It's comical to read.

Posted by: flyfishchef | October 9, 2008 9:01 PM | Report abuse

Obama chooses to associate with domestic bomb throwing terrorist, deranged racist preachers, sleazy slumlords, ect....Birds of a feather......

Posted by: mpg515 | October 9, 2008 8:59 PM | Report abuse

toritto - So now our military who served in vietnam are war criminals. This is tired and old. I respect those who served in vietnam, before vietnam, and after vietnam. This is 2008, not 1968. Try to stay in this century.

Posted by: ty02010 | October 9, 2008 8:57 PM | Report abuse

Ayers was obviously something the McCain forces were saving till the end as a "Hail Mary," only to be used if McCain were going down hard. A risky strategy because Obama's loose association with him proves nothing and a million others have interacted with Ayers now over the years, since he is a Professor and an expert on Education Policy. The McCain forces must have concluded it was time to pull out the tricks, being so far behind in the polls. It would be much better if they could really focus on the issue of the day, the Economy. But, they have been so badly trumped by Obama they now have really nothing left. Nothing but lies and tricks. Despicable behavior, but for a man like McCain to resort to this makes a mockery of his supposed high values and dedication to the good of the country.

Posted by: magnifco1000 | October 9, 2008 8:55 PM | Report abuse

On troopergate

In my state threatening to kill someone with a gun is called assault and you can be arrested for it. Who was protecting that trooper?

So a " rape" video by Flynt gets you Democrats off? Party of equal rights, wow.

Try therapy.

Posted by: shedhair | October 9, 2008 8:54 PM | Report abuse

buildhope wrote, "Typical Rovian tactic--frame the opponent using your candidate's known flaws. Palin's husband belonged to a group that wanted Alaska to break away from the U.S. He didn't want to be an American! And she spoke in front of this group. Now that is a direct link to an anti-American group. You can't dispute this one."

Mmmm hmmm. Sounds sort of tangentially related to Timothy McVeigh, if you ask me. I hate to mention it, but it's as close a connection to Palin as Ayers is to Obama.

Posted by: officermancuso | October 9, 2008 8:53 PM | Report abuse

You'd never know it due to the shamelessly pro-McCain media, but McCain's chief fundraiser Carl Lindner has given $1.7 million to a Columbian terrorist group. One that has killed women and children and is responsible for kidnappings in that savaged country. And John McCain was a full fledged adult when these things went on, not eight years old.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/07/02/mccain-fundraiser-oversaw_n_110354.html

Posted by: B2O2 | October 9, 2008 8:53 PM | Report abuse

So... if McCain and Palin think Obama is a terrorist, why don't they have the balls to just say that??

It is easy to figure out why these chicken-sh**s don't do that, either McCain is a pu**y and Palin is a bitc... er ..witch, or they are both totally full of BS.

I suppose everyone at the University of Illinois at Chicago is a terrorist also? They did hired Ayres...did they not? What evil are B. Joseph White (President)and Paula Allen-Meares (Chancellor) plotting... must be a lot of bad character and bad judgment at UIC!!!


Hey John and Sarah, put up or shut up.

You two are disgusting.

Posted by: plaza04433 | October 9, 2008 8:52 PM | Report abuse

There are 58,000+ names on a black wall that we "honor" - kids mostly. Kids drafted off the poorer streets of America, given a few months of basic and dropped in a faraway country to "kill commies".

Most died while Nixon vowed to bring the troops "home with honor" When pols use that expression it usually means someone else's kid has to die for an empty slogan.

Too many died too far away from home for far too little. There is no honor in that.

My bedroom set is marked "Made in Vietnam".
Those kids died for nothing.

Who knows how many "Top Gun" McSame killed dropping bombs on civilians in another war that never had to be fought? Many would consider his activities a war crime.

Bill Ayers killed no one. He even has Republican friends.

Posted by: toritto | October 9, 2008 8:52 PM | Report abuse

Carl-MadasHell - you might want to spend a little time doing a little research. Palin didn't need a reason to fire this guy, he served at the governor's pleasure. What he tried to do was act like the governor wasn't his boss and he could do what he wanted to do - he didn't have to support her priorities. He was wrong and got fired. If your boss is out for your head, don't stick your neck out!

Did she take special glee in doing that considering the events. Maybe, but nothing criminal in that.

Posted by: ty02010 | October 9, 2008 8:50 PM | Report abuse


Cindy McCain will not be making the decision in the Oval Office


I find the poster a little confused about who is the candidate.

Cocaine Use by a Presidential candidate is an issue - I feel very sorry for you that you believe that this country should be run by someone who is a former cocaine user - WHAT IF OBAMA WHEN TIMES ARE TOUGH DECIDES TO GO BACK TO COCAINE USE ???


WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO SAY THEN?

IF YOU THINK YOU ARE SO SMART........


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Posted by: 37thandOStreet | October 9, 2008 8:42 PM | Report abu
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Reply:

Maybe Cindy and John can turn him on to their suppliers. If not I am sure Palin can since they and their kids are current drug users.


FROM THE FOLKS WHO BROUGHT JOHN EDWARD'S, THEY NOW BRINGS YOU: "TRACK PALIN"
THE COKE HEAD WHO BEAT GOING TO JAIL BY GOING IN THE MILITARY AND HIS WONDERFUL PARENTS WHO RAISED SUCH A FINE FAMILY.


The NATIONAL ENQUIRER’S exclusive ongoing investigation of GOP VP Nom Sarah 'Barracuda' Palin’s goes far beyond a mere teen pregnancy crisis this week!

The Enquirer’s team of reporters has combed the Alaskan wilderness to discover the hidden truth about Gov. Palin’s family, which has become a central part of her political identity.

The ENQUIRER has learned exclusively that Sarah's oldest son, Track, was addicted to the power drug OxyContin for nearly the past two years, snorting it, eating it, smoking it and even injecting it. And as Track, 19, heads to Iraq as part of the U.S. armed forces, Sarah and her husband Todd were powerless to stop his wild antics, detailed in the new issue of The ENQUIRER, which goes on sale today.

THE ENQUIRER also has exclusive details about Track's use of other drugs, including cocaine, and his involvement in a notorious local vandalism incident.

“I’ve partied with him (Track) for years,” a source disclosed. “I’ve seen him snort cocaine, snort and smoke OxyContin, drink booze and smoke weed.”

The source also divulged the girls would do anything for Track and he’d use his local celebrity status to manipulate other guys “to get them to steal things he wanted.”

“He finally did what a lot of troubled kids here do,” the source divulged. “You join the military.”

And as Gov. Palin has billed the state of Alaska for various expenses related to her children, as reported by The Washington Post, The ENQUIRER's investigation reveals that she was so incensed by 17-year-old Bristol's pregnancy that she banished her daughter from the house.

Another family friend revealed pre-prego Bristol was as much of a hard partier as Track was.

“Bristol was a huge stoner and drinker. I’ve seen her smoke pot and get drunk and make out with so many guys. All the guys would brag that the just made out with Bristol.”

When Sarah found out the teen was pregnant by high schooler Levi Johnston, she was actually banished from the house. As part of the cover-up, Palin quickly transferred Bristol to another high school and made her move in with Sarah’s sister Heather 25 miles away!

And the ENQUIRER also learned that Levi Johnston, the baby mamma’s future wedded dada, who was glad handed by John McCain at the GOP Convention, isn’t too happy about his impending shotgun nups either.

“Levi got dragged out of the house to go to Minnesota,” Levi’s friend told The ENQUIRER. “Levi realizes he’s stuck being with Bristol because her mom is running for Vice President.”

The friend also confided that both Bristol and Levi “broke up a few times and they definitely messed around with other people.”

Meanwhile, as members of the Palin family’s war viciously over “Trooper-Gate” and claims of Sarah’s extramarital affair have turned the political race into a chaotic arena of threats, denials and vicious attacks by political black ops, The ENQUIRER has discovered shocking new details about the red-hot affair scandal!

For the full story of the secrets Sarah Palin is trying to hide – pick up the new ENQUIRER!

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Posted by: popasmoke | October 9, 2008 8:50 PM | Report abuse

Now here's a man with absolutely nothing left to offer the American people. William Ayers, really? Is this all that's left of you, Mr. McCain?

Posted by: B2O2 | October 9, 2008 8:48 PM | Report abuse

No, Chris. I got it.

O was eight when Ayers did his thing. Ayers is now a tenured college professor and a nationally recognized expert in education policy. About 1 million people have interacted with Professor Ayers in recent years, including major CEOs; one of those 1 million was Senator Barack Obama. The media's job is to "ferret" out relevant information not bigoted distracting junk pushed by angry, teeth-gritting, vein-bursting characters. Journalism 101. Thanks for coming. Next...
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Mr. Cillizza,

Why are you reporting that "the Republicans" are raising the issue? Isn't that a little backwards?

Shouldn't the media be ferreting this out?

I thought that was their job.

Did you know that Time Magazine's reporter interviewed a top Obama spokesperson today who refused to answer the question as to why Obama continued to use and benefit from his association with Ayers after he became aware that he and his wife were unrepentant terrorists? And of course we don't know yet when he did become aware.

But Mr. Cillizza, I won't try to do your job for you. But it would be a great service to the nation before we vote if you and the rest of the media did your job.

Don't you think the public has a right to know Barack Obama's answers to these questions?

Posted by: votewithyourfeet | October 9, 2008 8:33 PM

Posted by: broadwayjoe | October 9, 2008 8:47 PM | Report abuse

Cindy McCain will not be making the decision in the Oval Office


I find the poster a little confused about who is the candidate.

Cocaine Use by a Presidential candidate is an issue - I feel very sorry for you that you believe that this country should be run by someone who is a former cocaine user - WHAT IF OBAMA WHEN TIMES ARE TOUGH DECIDES TO GO BACK TO COCAINE USE ???


WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO SAY THEN?

IF YOU THINK YOU ARE SO SMART........


.

Posted by: 37thandOStreet | October 9, 2008 8:42 PM | Report abuse

I don't know about that but there a movie coming out caller
"Nailing Palin" by Larry Flynt.


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Umbria ; You're on fragile ground buddy - your own Sarah will be starring in a new movie "Sleeping with a seperatist" and she also refused to release copies of e-mails from her closet I believe ? Wasn't the AIP founder rather radical ? You see, they all have skeletons.

Posted by: aredee | October 9, 2008 8:35 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: popasmoke | October 9, 2008 8:42 PM | Report abuse

Gorwell1 - and if John McCain was an associate of Tim McVeigh, I wouldn't vote for McCain either.

Posted by: ty02010 | October 9, 2008 8:42 PM | Report abuse

Ayers is nothing compared to the fact that Obama might not be a U.S. citizan. So far Mr. Obama has refused to produce the documents in the Berg vs Obama case and is trying to fight the court order to produce the documents.
Any American should be able to prove citizenship in less than a day. Why can’t Mr. Obama?

Here is a link to the actual court documents - http://news.justia.com/cases/featured/Pennsylvania/paedce/2:2008cv04083/281573/

A constitutional crisis will rip our country apart. If this is not cleared up now we will have a crisis. If you care at all about America you must call for Mr. Obama to produce the documents and prove that he is eligible to be President.

Please Rally Congress to have Mr. Obama produce the documents to prove his constitutional qualifications.

http://www.rallycongress.com/constitutional-qualification/1244/stop-obama-constitutional-crisis

Posted by: tunes59 | October 9, 2008 8:42 PM | Report abuse

If Obama has such a supposedly terrible association with Ayers, why is it that it's only a couple weeks before the election that McCain has surfaced this concern? Why is it that it only surfaced when McCain was falling seriously behind in the polls? Why is it that at Palin rallies supporters, they are being whipped into a frenzy with the N world and "lynch him up," being shouted? Why won't McCain and Plain denounce the racial attacks and why did McCain refer to Obama as "that one?" Why is Palin still under investigation by the Alaskan State Legislature? And, finally, why cannot McCain distance himself from Bush and the economic fiasco America is now in. Bottom line, McCain bringing up Ayers is unmistakably the effort of a desperate man in the final throes of going down. And, nothing more.

Posted by: magnifco1000 | October 9, 2008 8:40 PM | Report abuse

Looks like the McCain campaign has found and targeted The Fix. Either that, or there's a huge groundswell of support for McCain on another day when most Americans were biting their nails calculating whether or not they can affort to retire at age 70.

We'll see.

Posted by: officermancuso | October 9, 2008 8:40 PM | Report abuse

Typical Rovian tactic--frame the opponent using your candidate's known flaws. Palin's husband belonged to a group that wanted Alaska to break away from the U.S. He didn't want to be an American! And she spoke in front of this group. Now that is a direct link to an anti-American group. You can't dispute this one.

Posted by: buildhope | October 9, 2008 8:39 PM | Report abuse

What's far more interesting than the Ayers smear distraction, which is turning off moderate republicans and independents by the droves, is the new electoral map.

Last year, O and Axelrod said they'd change the map and the MSM just laughed.

Well, he is winning VA by double digits, up in NC, up in W.VA, tied in GA, etc. etc. He could win 270 without worrying about FL and OH, but he's winning there as well.

Apart from the polls, the folks physically on the ground in the various states are saying the polls are not telling the whole story but are understating the support. The voters with cell phones, young people, and new registrants, aren't being contacted by the pollsters. In VA they say Mac is behind in every region in the state, not just the northern part around DC. What's more HuffPo is saying O is pulling up with him tons of congressional folks on the undercard. This really is a sea change in politics, but Mac/Palin has us talking about Ayers, "that one," and teenage use of blow. Oy.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | October 9, 2008 8:39 PM | Report abuse

Troopergate probe continues.."You betcha!!! I fired this guy for no lawful reason. I am above the law and I can't wait to get into office to abuse even more people, ban books and force my views on all Americans (all while wearing my pretty lipstick...which makes me look like I am a nice person, but really I am not)." S. Palin exposed...

Posted by: Carl-MadasHell | October 9, 2008 8:38 PM | Report abuse

Dear Ardee,

I guess you answered my question.

“A book Ayers penned about those years, Fugitive Days, landed him in hot water on Sept. 11, 2001. That morning, the New York Times ran a story about the book in which Ayers said, ‘I don’t regret setting bombs. I feel we didn’t do enough.’

What a solid citizen.

Posted by: shedhair | October 9, 2008 8:37 PM | Report abuse


What about the ECONOMY! HEALTH CARE! THE WAR!

Mr. Ayers probably has health care, from his place of employment. There are a lot veterans(Viet Nam) no HEALTH INSURACE. You are concerned, about Mr. Ayers?

Mr. McCain, you should not allow your people to distract the veterans(viet nam), from the health care that they need.

Companies, like Kodak and Xerox have real concerns about about their health care propgrams, those affected the most are retirees from those companies. Do the math some of these retirees are viet nam vets who do not have health coverage like you and Mr. Obama.

Never mind Ayers---Health Insurance, Economy and Jobs for the returning vets.

You make a charge, Obama replies, while the Bailout money that you BOTH were instrumental in the passage. Is being spent on a pleasure trip or was it a celebration of how WE(AIG) got over on the AMERICAN TAX PAYERS(voters).

Ayers my a**!


Posted by: msgbill | October 9, 2008 8:37 PM | Report abuse

Umbria ; You're on fragile ground buddy - your own Sarah will be starring in a new movie "Sleeping with a seperatist" and she also refused to release copies of e-mails from her closet I believe ? Wasn't the AIP founder rather radical ? You see, they all have skeletons.

Posted by: aredee | October 9, 2008 8:35 PM | Report abuse

Mr. Cillizza,

Why are you reporting that "the Republicans" are raising the issue? Isn't that a little backwards?

Shouldn't the media be ferreting this out?

I thought that was their job.

Did you know that Time Magazine's reporter interviewed a top Obama spokesperson today who refused to answer the question as to why Obama continued to use and benefit from his association with Ayers after he became aware that he and his wife were unrepentant terrorists? And of course we don't know yet when he did become aware.

But Mr. Cillizza, I won't try to do your job for you. But it would be a great service to the nation before we vote if you and the rest of the media did your job.

Don't you think the public has a right to know Barack Obama's answers to these questions?

Posted by: votewithyourfeet | October 9, 2008 8:33 PM | Report abuse

flyfish - give it up, you lost the argument, you were wrong and I was right. Move on to the next topic. Tough being beaten by a moron, huh?

Posted by: ty02010 | October 9, 2008 8:33 PM | Report abuse


NEW OBAMA SLOGAN:

"TERRORISTS YOU CAN BELIEVE IN"

Posted by: Umbria | October 9, 2008 8:32 PM | Report abuse

Someone should search Obama's house. At the rate radicals are falling out of his closet I wouldn't be surprised if Osama Bin Laden is tucked in somewhere there.

Posted by: Umbria | October 9, 2008 8:30 PM | Report abuse

toritto - interesting, of course, value judgements taken out of the equation.

I bought a house in 1980 - I paid 13.5% interest on the mortgage - do you remember stagflation?

Do you remember the absolutely incompetent response to our hostages in Iran. He couldn't even coordinate the raid to try to free them, remember our soldiers who died flying over the desert?

Remember the USSR's expansion during that period - Reagan sure put and end to that didn't he?

Historians will judge the last presidency - did GWB mess up a lot of things - yup, not going to defend that. But, history will be the judge. We're too close to this right now to put it in place. Right after the Truman admin. they also thought he was a mess, but history rates him better. Right now we're enough years out and Carter gets my vote.

BTW, if you want to worry about suspending habeas corpus, etc. let's talk about FDR, but history remembers him fondly. (internment camps?)

Posted by: ty02010 | October 9, 2008 8:30 PM | Report abuse

Fix ComBoxes in a nutshell: a shrinking Republican base grows increasingly strident.

Posted by: officermancuso | October 9, 2008 8:28 PM | Report abuse

shedhair: Man you're smart. Thank God you discovered that huge $200 donation, I'll bet that will change the course of the campaign. Bet you could buy a whole lot of TV time with that ! And those dumbos at the University of Illinois and Northwestern - how could they not have realized they were employing terrorists ? You've really unearthed something here, I bet Obama's shaking in his shoes !

Posted by: aredee | October 9, 2008 8:28 PM | Report abuse

Where is the Secret Service on Palin's "terrorist" rants. This woman has gone off of the deep end.........

Posted by: aeaustin | October 9, 2008 8:26 PM | Report abuse

McCain and Palin's attempts to link Obama to a decades-removed radical are pathetic and reek of desperation. What I find alarming though is the seeting anger of their supporters at the prospect they are losing as if winning was their right. It reminds me of the hate and anger of the far-right radio and militia movement of several years back. And let's not forget the worst domestic terrorist in American history, Tim McVey, was a product of the right. Pipe bombs vs. truck bombs - which is the biggest danger?

Posted by: Gorwell1 | October 9, 2008 8:24 PM | Report abuse

Obama didn't know who the guy was when he went to his house. Someone should ask McCain why he spent his last birthday on the yacht of a conman (I mean a conman besides McCain).

Posted by: TheDukeStir | October 9, 2008 8:23 PM | Report abuse

ty02010,

If the regulatory of Fannie/Freddie was a critical to the American economy as Republicans are making it out to be, they would have DEMANDED a vote as Trent Lott used to do quite often when he was majority leader and they'd have made a huge stink in the press.

The RNC and McCain are now acting with cynical 20/20 hindsight and blaming the Dems for blocking a bill they could have gotten a vote on if they'd wanted one.

Posted by: flyfishchef | October 9, 2008 8:22 PM | Report abuse

now popasmoke, I thought we republicans were all the mean and evil rich people who are sucking the blood from the middle class. Now you seem to be saying we live in trailers? I'm so confused. Our coudl it be that you are admitting that republicans can be rich, can be middle class, can be not so well-off. Thanks for that very spot on admission.

Posted by: ty02010 | October 9, 2008 8:21 PM | Report abuse

case3 wrote, "Side note: True (thinking) conservatives are wondering how their candidate just advocated for the federal Gov to directly buy houses at over priced face value and stick tax payers with the losses. McCain has shown he will say anything and drop any principle to win this election. "

Yep, for any homeowner living within their means, that is a direct attempt to use government to devalue the relative market value of their prudent decision making. The American political world looks upside down right now, but that's mostly because a Republican is desperately trying to remain competitive as his party's ideology is being aggressively, rapidly discredited by events.

Posted by: officermancuso | October 9, 2008 8:21 PM | Report abuse

ty02010: No I didn't. At least Carter didn't shred the Constitution, endorse torture, suspend habeas corpus, lie us into an unnecessary war, politicize the Justice Department, pack the government with incompetent cronies (Alberto, Brownie et al.)

Need I go on?

The Bush administration is the worst in my life time. Period. No arguement. No question. No doubt.

Posted by: toritto | October 9, 2008 8:21 PM | Report abuse

McCain has become a pathetic, gutless coward like the rest of the Republicans. He lost every ounce of his integrity long before this sickening ad.

Posted by: TheDukeStir | October 9, 2008 8:20 PM | Report abuse

Do you hang around with people like this?

" Bernardine Dohrn (currently a law professor at Northwestern University and a Board member of the ACLU) praised the serial murderer Charles Manson and his accomplices: "Dig it. First they killed those pigs, then they ate dinner in the same room with them. They even shoved a fork into the victim's stomach. Wild." She then proclaimed that the time had come to launch a war against "Amerikkka" (Weatherman always spelled "America" this way, to convey the group's belief that the nation was ineradicably racist to its core). Toward this end, Dohrn advocated the formation of an even more radical "Weather Underground" cult to carry out covert terrorist activities rather than public acts of protest. By early 1970, her wish would be realized."


http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=6808

Obama not only served along side Ayers as a director of the Woods Fund, a Chicago-based anti-poverty organization, but according to the Chicago Sun-Times, “In the mid-1990s, Ayers and Dohrn hosted a meet-and-greet at their house to introduce Obama to their neighbors during his first run for the Illinois Senate. In 2001, Ayers contributed $200 to Obama’s campaign.
“A book Ayers penned about those years, Fugitive Days, landed him in hot water on Sept. 11, 2001. That morning, the New York Times ran a story about the book in which Ayers said, ‘I don’t regret setting bombs. I feel we didn’t do enough.’ Ayers’ statement was made before the World Trade Center attacks, but its timing led some to believe it was in response

http://blog.vdare.com/archives/2008/04/18/from-urban-guerrillas-to-upstanding-establishment-citizens-bill-ayers-and-the-weather-underground-in-perspective/

Posted by: shedhair | October 9, 2008 8:20 PM | Report abuse

Don't go for the bait. Let them continue to punch themselves out on Resko, Ayers, Wright, racebaiting, name calling, and inciting Yahoos to violence at separatist rallies. Hannity did Obama a big favor: had he not bored everyone to death with this bigoted irrelevant sewage four months ago by broadcasting it 24/7 in endless loops it might well have meant something now. Thank you, Herr Hannity.
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You really hate to see them do that, but so far every time Obama hit back Mccain and his people ran and hid, then changed the subject.


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The DNC should slap back with an internet ad detailing McCain's ties with Liddy and Singlaub. Only by going tit for tat will the McCain people get off this hobby horse.

Posted by: dcwsano | October 9, 2008 8:04 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: broadwayjoe | October 9, 2008 8:19 PM | Report abuse

ty02010,

You're the moron as I noted earlier. Plenty of legislation gets passed with less than 60 Yes votes in the Senate. Go check the congressional record and find out for yourself.

Show me a quote from ANY Senate Democrat threatening a filibuster of the bill, I don't have the number, that McCain signed onto a YEAR after it was introduced and I will GLADLY retract my comments.

Posted by: flyfishchef | October 9, 2008 8:18 PM | Report abuse

case3 - your are correct, us true conservatives don't know what the heck mccain is doing some of the time. But then, you see, he's not a conservative. He's a moderate and we don't always agree with him.

One thing I can tell you though, he's alot closer to what we believe than is Obama. OBama is the most liberal Senator in Congress, not a whole lot for me to like thers.

Posted by: ty02010 | October 9, 2008 8:17 PM | Report abuse

For those who find this stuff interesting. Obama has taken an astounding 53 point lead on intrade. As well as a 190 electoral lead. Mccains stock is becoming worth toilet paper.

I guess all you Mccain fans better head over there and make a lot of money on Nov 4. Get a loan on that trailer and make a score so you can buy that above ground pool you have always wanted.

Posted by: popasmoke | October 9, 2008 8:16 PM | Report abuse

shedhair: Great logic - now I understand why McCain (Rove) chose Palin after only having met her once. Smart move, nobody can accuse Johnny boy of having associated with an Alaskan seperatist-America hater.

Posted by: aredee | October 9, 2008 8:16 PM | Report abuse

And flyfish, why don't you ask your wife how many bills die in committee because the majority is told by the minority that there is no way they will support it and the majority knows they'd be wasting their time trying to override the filibuster. Honesty is a nice quality, try it sometime, it doesn't hurt, Trust me.

Posted by: ty02010 | October 9, 2008 8:13 PM | Report abuse

Whats scary is that there actually are many who are more concerned with a 60s Vietnam radical turned college professor Than an economic crisis sweeping the globe. Doesn't seem to matter one bit Obama was working for a charity. Go check your 401k to see what is an important issue.

Side note: True (thinking) conservatives are wondering how their candidate just advocated for the federal Gov to directly buy houses at over priced face value and stick tax payers with the losses. McCain has shown he will say anything and drop any principle to win this election.

Posted by: case3 | October 9, 2008 8:13 PM | Report abuse

McCain in his desperation is now hiding behind his wife, in addition to Gov. Palin. Speak for yourself John ! If Sen. McCain doesn't have the guts to speak these slurs to Sen. Obama's face, then how in the world could he speak up to world leaders? Or corporate CEO's?

Sen. Obama needs to stay on the positive road, and stay on attack of the issues. McCain in his 'last throes' is trying to bait Obama into a mud fight so they can label Obama as the angry ... They tried that with Mrs. Obama and she showed her grace and savvy by staying positive and on message with Larry King.

Cindy McCain looks like she's doing OK in this economic downturn. So the more she's on camera, the more she reinforces who is doing well in this economy and who is not.

Gov. Palin is a gifted, bright person, but she alone cannot get McCain elected. She should be treated as any other VP candidate should be, equal as if she were male.

Obama CAN let his surrogates respond, as they have, to the McCain last desperate attempts to win the election.

The GOP IS managing to scare people, especially older people, much like the sudden raised alert level did before the 2004 election. A steady hand at the tiller is nice, but not when the ship of state is heading to an iceberg.


, keep showing Bush and McCain in that submissive hug,

Posted by: bfjam | October 9, 2008 8:13 PM | Report abuse

According to the Boston Globe reporting on the Ayers connection,( and stated by the Obama campaign) Obama had not received emails or phone calls from Ayers since 2005. Who's in your email box?

Hardly a one time get together, and just about the time he started running for President. How convenient.

Posted by: shedhair | October 9, 2008 8:12 PM | Report abuse

The only question here is whether good people are going to let the blatant racist and desperate politicking of John McCain and Sarah Palin pull this country back into the dark ages. We will find out on November 4th.

Posted by: CharacterCounts | October 9, 2008 8:12 PM | Report abuse

HuffPo: "Explicitly racial attack" from Mac campaign against O --

"Former Oklahoma Gov. Frank Keating, a McCain campaign co-chairman, edged up to an explicitly racial attack on Barack Obama on Thursday, describing the Illinois Senator as a "guy of the street" before raising his youthful drug use.

Appearing on Dennis Miller's radio show, Keating charged that the Democratic nominee was covering up his "very extreme" record, and urged Obama to be more honest with Americans. "He ought to admit," Keating said, "'You know, I've got to be honest with you. I was a guy of the street. I was way to the left. I used cocaine. I voted liberally, but I'm back at the center.'""

Posted by: broadwayjoe | October 9, 2008 8:12 PM | Report abuse

One thing is for certain:

Bush Republicanism and its adherents -- looking at you McCain, House GOP caucus, the GOP Senate, and Bush with lipstick -- have done more harm to this country than the efforts of any inept 1960s domestic terrorist.

For that matter, in real economic terms, Bush Republicanism has done more harm to this country than even the 9/11 attacks.

Bin Laden must love Bush/McCain.

Posted by: JPRS | October 9, 2008 8:11 PM | Report abuse

You really hate to see them do that, but so far every time Obama hit back Mccain and his people ran and hid, then changed the subject.


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The DNC should slap back with an internet ad detailing McCain's ties with Liddy and Singlaub. Only by going tit for tat will the McCain people get off this hobby horse.

Posted by: dcwsano | October 9, 2008 8:04 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: popasmoke | October 9, 2008 8:10 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: shedhair |

"Nixon created Vietnamization of the war which had moderate success.
The Democratic Congress cut off funding to Viet Nam which led to its collapse in 1975.
Dont let facts get in the way."

Nice try but you're changing the subject.

Liberals didn't end the Vietnam war and funding was cut off AFTER Nixon's Peace with Honor pull out.

Posted by: flyfishchef | October 9, 2008 8:09 PM | Report abuse

Rolling Stone has an article on the life and career of John McCain. check out the link.

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/coverstory/make_believe_maverick_the_real_john_mccain

Posted by: NewEra | October 9, 2008 8:07 PM | Report abuse

Flyfish - now don't lie, if your wife was a staffer she surely informed you that if the other side threatens a filibuster it takes 60 votes to override that and get it to the floor. Nothing in the senate passes with less than 60 votes unless both sides agree to let it get to the floor. You see, I know the rules. Now who's the moron.

Posted by: ty02010 | October 9, 2008 8:05 PM | Report abuse

The DNC should slap back with an internet ad detailing McCain's ties with Liddy and Singlaub. Only by going tit for tat will the McCain people get off this hobby horse.

Posted by: dcwsano | October 9, 2008 8:04 PM | Report abuse

armpeg: Given the stupidity of your comment might I suggest you change your non de plume to "armpit" ! Just how simple minded do you have to be to claim that someone who "hates America", "hates whites" etc etc wants to become their President ? Doesn't your statement sound as ridiculous to you as it does to other readers ?

Posted by: aredee | October 9, 2008 8:04 PM | Report abuse

ty02010, I know quite a bit about Congress because my wife was a staffer for a Republican Senator for several years. If the Republicans wanted a vote, they could have brought a bill to the floor - PERIOD. Whether or not it would have passed or been filibustered is a different story.

And, moron, you only need 60 votes if you're planning to override a veto. A simple majority of 51 will pass legislation.

So, stop lying and go to civics class.

Posted by: flyfishchef | October 9, 2008 8:03 PM | Report abuse

Toritto - I think you've forgotten the Carter administration.

Posted by: ty02010 | October 9, 2008 8:03 PM | Report abuse

McCain has absolutely nothing constructive to say about how he would resolve the economic crisis, so he resorts to character assassination in order to keep his name in the news. And as his credibility as a viable candidate plummets, he becomes more and more desperate and irrational. Meanwhile, Palin is more than happy to do his bidding. Since she lacks a conscience, she has no reservations about piling on the slime.

However, the polls tell the tale. Their campaign has become a joke, Palin is a caricature and fodder for late night comedy acts, and McCain has reduced himself to a bitter, old man with nothing but vitriol to offer the American people. How sad...

Posted by: labman57 | October 9, 2008 8:02 PM | Report abuse

Dear flyfishchef,

Nixon created Vietnamization of the war which had moderate success. The Democratic Congress cut off funding to Viet Nam which led to its collapse in 1975. Dont let facts get in the way.

Posted by: shedhair | October 9, 2008 8:02 PM | Report abuse

ty02010, I know quite a bit about Congress because my wife was a staffer for a Republican Senator for several years. If the Republicans wanted a vote, they could have brought a bill to the floor - PERIOD. Whether or not it would have passed or been filibustered is a different story.

And, moron, you only need 60 votes if you're planning to override a veto. A simple majority of 51 will pass legislation.

So, stop lying and go to civics class.

Posted by: flyfishchef | October 9, 2008 8:02 PM | Report abuse

It's imafool@troll.com
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37thAndOstreet: could you please post your web site again 'cause I didn't catch it the last time? :]

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Posted by: broadwayjoe | October 9, 2008 8:02 PM | Report abuse

lynrusso wrote, "It is always enlightning to hear the liberals in this country cry foul and blame everything on the Republicans.
First, GREED is what got us to this point in our country."

Ah yes, McCain views everything through the prism of morality, and greed is evil. I'm curious why anyone would invest in a stock if not in hope of making money.

This moralism is the sort of thing that leads to terror. Face it. All human beings are motivated by greed. It's the normal state of affairs. Once upon a time, conservatives understood this.

A well-functioning free economy expects that every actor is motivated by greed, and has safeguards in place for those times when greed runs contrary to the public interest.

You will not exterminate greed, but in a failed effort to do so, you may reproduce Robespierre's horrors. Or Lenin's, or Stalin's, or Mao's, or Pol Pot's.

Who thought that the Republican party would be reduced to this?

Posted by: officermancuso | October 9, 2008 8:02 PM | Report abuse

Recently uncovered note from Charles Keating to John Mccain

"Don't be silly. You can call me anything, write anything or do anything. I'm yours till death do us part."

Maybe a gay relationship between Keating and Mccain.

Posted by: popasmoke | October 9, 2008 8:02 PM | Report abuse

John McCain needs to explain the links between the Annenbergs, Mrs Annenberg has endorsed Sen McCain, and William Ayres.

Posted by: Chrisle | October 9, 2008 7:59 PM | Report abuse

NYT has report from the Troopergate hearings - dozens of attempts to get the guy fired, multiple versions of why Palin fired his boss, and concern about the role the first dude played in using the office of the governor.

So this Ayers thing, well. Here's an excerpt from NYT:

"The McCain folks have been obsessed with William Ayers, a neighbor of Obama’s who is a professor at the University of Illinois at Chicago. Back in the 1960s, Ayers and his wife, Bernardine Dohrn, were leaders of the Weather Underground, an antiwar group whose penchant for violence was exceeded only by its haplessness. Ayers has since become an education expert and was named Chicago’s Citizen of the Year in 1997. He gave Obama a house party when Obama was running for the State Senate.

In my experience, most State Senate hopefuls are so thrilled at any sign of interest that they would happily attend a reception given by a homeless couple in their cardboard box. But even though Obama was 8 years old at the time the Weathermen were in the news, that house party puts all their misdeeds on his platter. Sarah Palin has been telling her increasingly scary rallies that he is somebody “who sees America as imperfect enough to pal around with terrorists.” "

Posted by: practica1 | October 9, 2008 7:58 PM | Report abuse

It's about time McCain and the RNC started using the Ayers ad's!!! Next they'll need to use the vile and racist Trinity UFC Jerimiah Wright Jr. tapes in their ads and show the American people that Barack Obama is a racist white--hater and a America--hater just like his friend and mentor of 20 years Wright. No one becomes a member of a racist religious cult like Trinity, and stays one for 20 years, unless they agree with what's going on. Jees, he even took his two little daughters there every Sunday to be brainwashed and indoctrinated with this church's racist and hateful messages. I mean how low can one go?

Posted by: armpeg | October 9, 2008 7:58 PM | Report abuse

37thAndOstreet: could you please post your web site again 'cause I didn't catch it the last time? :]

Posted by: ih82blog | October 9, 2008 7:57 PM | Report abuse

I'm an old retired guy who doesn’t have to work and I can honestly say it won't matter to me in the long run who wins this election. At my age any election I participate in could be my last. I do believe however that the current administration has been the worst in my lifetime (born during FDR). I don't think anyone can rationally deny that. We have had 8 years of corruption, unnecessary war and shredding of the Constitution. Over the last month we have watched with our own eyes the slow motion impoverishment of America. Now this same party wants us to give them 4 more years so that John the "maverick" can fix Washington. ...like I was born yesterday.

If "small town working class" rust-belt voters in Ohio, Pa., Michigan and Indiana help re-elect the GOP then I for one don't want to hear anymore whining from them about their disappearing jobs and livelihoods, the high cost of college and gas, lack of health care etc. Let Johnnie' and Sarah’s "patriotism" put food on your table. Go flip burghers!

Screw 'ya. Cling to your guns and religion and “small town values”. Pray to Jesus when you go hunting for a meal. Stay with that church and keep your weapon. You will need both the soup kitchen and the rifle. You will deserve what you get. Your kids can go to community college if you can afford it and you can forget about ever retiring. You’re probably out of work anyway.

I got mine already. I live comfortably in the sunny South on a golf course in a paid off house, got my steady income, my "socialist" medicare and prescription drug coverage that you younger people wish you had but will never get under the Republicans. I sent my girls to college and they are successfully out on their own. The world won't run out of gas before I go and the planet won't get too hot.

A McCain election ain't gonna hurt me.

As Johnny Carson used to say - I upped my lifestyle - up yours!

I’m an old man. Trust me on this. God helps those who help themselves - if you're in deep doodoo economically and you vote Republican for their "values", you deserve it.

Posted by: toritto | October 9, 2008 7:56 PM | Report abuse

We do not care about Ayers!! It is a non issue and Barack was 8 years old when this man commited his crimes, this has nothing to do with Barack Obama. Our country is in shambles and I am worried I will not have a job next week. Focusing on these non issues is just a distraction from the real issues we are all facing. Enough is enough the fact that McCain and co. keep focusing on these non issues tells me they have no solutions to our problems and have nothing to add to help us ordinary Americans.

Posted by: Carl-MadasHell | October 9, 2008 7:56 PM | Report abuse

officermancuso |- wow you don't even know me and you've already compared me to Sarah Palin, thank you for the honor.

So, the republicans were in charge for 6 years and they really messed up didn't they. Now, for the last 2 years, the democrats have been in charge of Congress and they've also really messed up.

What's your point.

Posted by: ty02010 | October 9, 2008 7:56 PM | Report abuse

grdn_nell lied:

First of all Nell your lie that "Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac (owned by the US Government - always have been)", is beyond ridiculous. Fannie and Freddie are NOT owned by the US Government and they never have been.

Second Nell lie "The Democratic Congress under President Clinton..." , Clinton operated under a Republican Congress after the 1992 Republican Revolution led by Newt Gingrich which is when all the financial deregulation began taking place led by Newt in the House and Gramm in the Senate.

Get your RNC "talking point" lies straight, please, so you'll at least some semblance of credibility.

"The former head of Fannie Mae made $90 million dollars and then left to join the Obama Campaign, where he is still Barry's Chief Financial Advisor"

No Nell, Raines never was officially affiliated with Obama Campaign. Even Limbaugh and Hannity don't parrot that old chestnut-lie anymore.

Once again, get your RNC lies straight, especially the old ones about Raines being "Obama's Chief Financial Advisor" (sic).

Use spell-check. It makes your lies look prettier.

You should probably go shill on another blog where the readers aren't as well informed as WaPo. Your lies are far too easy to spot. I'd advise avoiding the NY Times for the same reason, their readers are well-informed too. The Washingon Times or the NY Post are very right wing and would be a good place for you to shill your painfully obvious RNC talking point lies.

Posted by: flyfishchef | October 9, 2008 7:55 PM | Report abuse

McCain has gotten as sleezy as Palin!

Posted by: aeaustin | October 9, 2008 7:54 PM | Report abuse

37thand O, being president of the law review is like finishing No. 1 in your class. The president of the review normally does not write but edits others' work and manages the office. The brothers at North Capitol and H may be able to provide you with more information on the law review. Come on down...

Posted by: broadwayjoe | October 9, 2008 7:54 PM | Report abuse

gopbluto: This minor fact of history may have evaded you - I think you'll find it was the Japanese who bombed Pearl Harbor but don't let this trivia bother you.

Posted by: aredee | October 9, 2008 7:54 PM | Report abuse

It is always enlightning to hear the liberals in this country cry foul and blame everything on the Republicans.
First, GREED is what got us to this point in our country. Politicians, Wall Street Bankers etc.
Well look closely at Obama's running mate Joe Biden, he is so deep in bed with the credit card companies that he can't see. Now they have allowed the bank to raise interest rates on your cards and lower your limit.
Obama and his cronies the Democrats caused this mess, Bill Clinton forced the banks to lend to minorities even though they could not afford the home. So who has to pay once again the taxpayer.
Bleeding heart liberals think that is our responsibility to take care of all these people. Well what happened to "PERSONAL RESPONSIBILTY" liberals never heard that concept.
As for the race card and what McCain is doing may not be vey good but when you have people voting just because a man is black and know nothing about his character that is wrong.People should be informed and not waste their vote that may cause harm to this country. I would like to know where Obama thinks he is going to get all this money to help all these people and turn us into a socialist country instead of Democracy.
One of Obama's great statements that rile's the heck out of me is when he tries to sell the American people that small business's do not make more than $250,000 a year, where is he getting these facts. There are more small business's in this country that make welll over $250,000 a year and they employ and insure a lot of people. What happens to us when our jobs are gone? Maybe we should go on welfare? Oh wait sorry we have to many assets, we have to lose it all to qualify.
I have two grown children that have grown up in the 70's and 80's and one just graduated from college. These kids think they are entitled to everything. There is no entitlemnt in this country except for politians. We all learned to work and work hard for the American Dream it was not given to us.
Last note it makes me sick to listen to you bleeding hearts disrespect a man that fought in a war, that Lyndon Johnson could not wait to get into and had to wait until Richard Nixon and Gerald Ford got into the White House to end it. These men sacrificed everything to help a nation that wanted our help. What did the US do pull out and leave them on their own. Another concept the Democrats are so willing to do now in Iraq. Well I lost a husband to Vietnam and it is about time the rest of this country give respect to the men, women and families that have suffered to save this country. And that includes John McCain he gave 6 years of his life as a POW. So you people would be able to talk and bash people like you do.

This country is in a sorry state of affairs. There are way to many Godless people among us trying to impose their will on us. You can't win.

Posted by: lynrusso | October 9, 2008 7:51 PM | Report abuse

37thandOStreet: Please stop proving to us just how stupid you are ! Comparing a bottom of the class, naval drunk to a Harvard law school graduate is just completely off the wall. And by the way how do you McCainites like being called "fellow prisoners" ? I think he was looking for "fellow Americans" but either doesn't know any or had a senior moment.

Posted by: aredee | October 9, 2008 7:51 PM | Report abuse

You know, John Sydney McCain associated for years with known Communists. (We don't mention that the Communists were guards at the Hanoi Hilton and McCain was a Prisoner of War.)

Posted by: BlueTwo1 | October 9, 2008 7:51 PM | Report abuse

Flyfish - if you know anything about Congress, which you seem to not, you know that you aren't going anywhere there unless you have 60 votes in the Senate. Tell me when the republicans had 60 votes in the Senate.

Posted by: ty02010 | October 9, 2008 7:50 PM | Report abuse

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The Solution to the Economic Crisis is NOT to place a former cocaine user in charge of the World's Largest Economy.


Are you completely insane?


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Posted by: 37thandOStreet | October 9, 2008 7:50 PM | Report abuse

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McCain’s Resume Is Far Far Better


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A great deal has been said of Obama as head of the Harvard Law Review - however the evidence is that he was voted into that position because the people thought it would be "cool" to have a black in there, not because he was more qualified than the other students.


Having said that, Obama NEVER wrote for the Harvard Law Review.


There is NOT ONE ARTICLE WRITTEN BY OBAMA IN THE HARVARD LAW REVIEW.


There is a pattern of Obama getting positions or jobs through affirmative action and then NOT doing those jobs.


1) First, he took a position in the class at Harvard Law School (from a white student) however Obama NEVER became a lawyer,


2) Obama became head of the Harvard Law Review, however Obama NEVER wrote a law review article.


3) Obama became a State Senator however Obama RARELY voted yes or not, voting present many many times - Emil Jones placed Obama's name on numerous bills which were Emil's work, and Obama took credit for Emil's work because someone decided that Obama was going to be pushed forward.


4) Obama was selected to be the Chairman of the SubCommittee to review NATO's role in Afghanistan however Obama NEVER held any hearings of this SubCommittee.


5) Obama was elected to the US Senator, however instead of doing his job as a Senator Obama went on a book tour and started a campaign for President - HOW MUCH TIME HAS HE REALLY SPENT ACTUALLY BEING A SENATOR ???

Sorry However NONE OF THIS IS IMPRESSIVE. In fact, it is rather sad.

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Posted by: 37thandOStreet | October 9, 2008 7:49 PM | Report abuse

Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!

http://www.jibjab.com/view/137226

Posted by: gopbluto | October 9, 2008 7:49 PM | Report abuse

Then you need to take a closer look at Mccain. When Obama met Ayers it was in the home of one of Mccains biggest contributers who has had a long and close connection with Ayers for many years.

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Aredee - just because someone isn't convicted in court doesn't mean they didn't do anything. Ayers admits he was a founder of the Weather Underground. Ayers admits he was involved in bombings. In 2001 Ayers stated he was only sorry he wasn't able to do more bombings when he was younger. Ayers isn't in jail because the evidence against him was thrown out as proper search warrants weren't obtained.

So, the argument about Obama has nothing to do with his age when Ayers was a domestic terrorist. The argument is that Ayers is unapologetic and Obama relied on Ayers to help connect Obama in the Chicago political establishment. Who you chose to associate yourself with speaks alot about who you are.

Posted by: ty02010 | October 9, 2008 7:43 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: popasmoke | October 9, 2008 7:48 PM | Report abuse

ty02010 wrote, "Officermancuso - Wow, you almost did it, you almost got through an entire post without mentioning GWB."

:::guffaw::::

Wouldn't you like it, if we were constrained to conduct this election without mentioning what Republicans have accomplished during the past 8 years, during all of which they held the White House, and during six of which they held both houses of congress. Oh, and they held the Supreme Court for all eight.

I'm not sure how you form intelligent, fact-based opinions on policy if, Palin-like, you refuse to look back at the lessons of experience.

Posted by: officermancuso | October 9, 2008 7:48 PM | Report abuse

One thing is for certain; we can count on Obama to sell his plans to us instead of he and Biden shifting the conversation to attack McCain on Keating and Gramm. At least when he does, it is a response to the McCain camp. He doesn't have to rely on distractions to get our attention on the issues.

If only the experienced McCain and Palin can stand up to Obama's standards.....
Shouldn't they be able to do more than what Obama is capable of? If they're really in support of the people, wouldn't they be selling us their information instead of trying to divert our attention away from The Substance? Our time is limited, and they're wasting money and opportunity to really drill into how their plans will benefit this nation for a minimal term of four years.

They owe it to us after this most recent administration. We're in 2008. Why must the end of the campaigning shift into more nastiness? We should be getting more aggressive on our plans, candidates. This is irritating, and I look forward to this country pushing back on the Republicans who think it is ok to use diversion to pull a fast one on us, en route to the White House. They're looking for shortcuts; aka getting lazy on the populace, in the midst of a variety of issues. It seems to me, they are out to make a mockery of our process by not taking the issues and our people seriously. This is not the time to be seeking shortcuts to the White House, Republicans. Sell your plans, and your ticket for the matter, to this country. That is the patriotic thing to do, if they sincerely care. Cut the crap.

Obama/Biden '08

Posted by: Obama2008 | October 9, 2008 7:46 PM | Report abuse

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A great deal has been said of Obama as head of the Harvard Law Review - however the evidence is that he was voted into that position because the people thought it would be "cool" to have a black in there, not because he was more qualified than the other students.


Having said that, Obama NEVER wrote for the Harvard Law Review.


There is NOT ONE ARTICLE WRITTEN BY OBAMA IN THE HARVARD LAW REVIEW.


There is a pattern of Obama getting positions or jobs through affirmative action and then NOT doing those jobs.


1) First, he took a position in the class at Harvard Law School (from a white student) however Obama NEVER became a lawyer,


2) Obama became head of the Harvard Law Review, however Obama NEVER wrote a law review article.


3) Obama became a State Senator however Obama RARELY voted yes or not, voting present many many times - Emil Jones placed Obama's name on numerous bills which were Emil's work, and Obama took credit for Emil's work because someone decided that Obama was going to be pushed forward.


4) Obama was selected to be the Chairman of the SubCommittee to review NATO's role in Afghanistan however Obama NEVER held any hearings of this SubCommittee.


5) Obama was elected to the US Senator, however instead of doing his job as a Senator Obama went on a book tour and started a campaign for President - HOW MUCH TIME HAS HE REALLY SPENT ACTUALLY BEING A SENATOR ???

Sorry However NONE OF THIS IS IMPRESSIVE. In fact, it is rather sad.

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Posted by: 37thandOStreet | October 9, 2008 7:46 PM | Report abuse

OMG!

He's black!!!

That librual, commie, pinko, leninist, trotskyite, maoist, anarchist, nihilist, muslim islamo fascist terrorist and pal of terroists, arab, manchurian candidate, drug user, disciple of Rev. Wright, reader of the Autobiography of Malcolm X (did I leave any smear out?)

is gonna be PRESIDENT of the United States of America!!

Oh Happy Day!

...."the whole world is watching!"

It will be a glorious day to be an American!!

Yippie kai yaah!

:-)

We libs are gonna have sooo much fun!


Posted by: toritto | October 9, 2008 7:45 PM | Report abuse

Gail Collins NYTs this morning:

**Ayers was named Chicago’s Citizen of the Year in 1997.**

Can't wait 'til the next debate!

:)

Posted by: lichtme | October 9, 2008 7:45 PM | Report abuse

37thandO, the brothers say you didn't show up at North Capitol and H. What gives? Just want to have a word with you.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | October 9, 2008 7:44 PM | Report abuse

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The Solution to the Economic Crisis is NOT to place a former cocaine user in charge of the World's Largest Economy.


Are you completely insane?


Voted One Of The Nation's Top 5 Political Blogs For The Election Of 2008:


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The Solution to the Economic Crisis is NOT to place a former cocaine user in charge of the World's Largest Economy.


Are you completely insane?


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Posted by: 37thandOStreet | October 9, 2008 7:44 PM | Report abuse

Aredee - just because someone isn't convicted in court doesn't mean they didn't do anything. Ayers admits he was a founder of the Weather Underground. Ayers admits he was involved in bombings. In 2001 Ayers stated he was only sorry he wasn't able to do more bombings when he was younger. Ayers isn't in jail because the evidence against him was thrown out as proper search warrants weren't obtained.

So, the argument about Obama has nothing to do with his age when Ayers was a domestic terrorist. The argument is that Ayers is unapologetic and Obama relied on Ayers to help connect Obama in the Chicago political establishment. Who you chose to associate yourself with speaks alot about who you are.

Posted by: ty02010 | October 9, 2008 7:43 PM | Report abuse

If he graduated Magna, lets see the grades


Why is Obama hiding his grades ????

AND his birth certificate

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Posted by: 37thandOStreet | October 9, 2008 7:43 PM | Report abuse

McCain is throwing in the kitchen sink now anything to confuse the voters most likely the elder ones who don,t read blogs and keep up with the latest as much as the younger 30-40 crowd in my estimation. So here is a blast from the past for starters to wash away their dirty politics:
FYI...The Democratic Congress under President Clinton allowed the banks to branch out into brokerage and high-risk mortgages businesses in order to increase their profits. This same Congress pushed Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac (owned by the US Government - always have been) to purchase these high-risk mortgages with limited oversight and no accountability. (The former head of Fannie Mae made $90 million dollars and then left to join the Obama Campaign, where he is still Barry's Chief Financial Advisor - small world, isn't it?) To compound the problem, when the Republican Administration called for reform of Fannie and Freddie (so that they would be unable to continue down their perilous course of financing bad investments), the Democratic Congress run by San Fran Nan voted it down.

Posted by: grdn_nell | October 9, 2008 7:43 PM | Report abuse

From today's AP (hardly pro-O). Mac's smears are really working--not. How great is Tanya Barker's quote?
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The AP story (excerpt):

"The surge in new voters that helped propel Barack Obama to his party's presidential nomination is carrying over to the general election _ 9 million newly registered voters who are overwhelmingly Democratic and could add up to a big victory on Election Day.

If they show up.

In states where registration is recorded by party, including eight key states that could decide the election, voters have signed up Democratic in the past six months by a margin of nearly 4-to-1.

Tonya Barker is among them. The 30-year-old mother of two from eastern North Carolina said it wasn't until this election _ when the Illinois senator burst onto the national scene _ that she finally found a reason to vote.

"Why would I waste my time on someone I don't believe in?" said Barker. "I think I knew Barack was coming."

Simply registering voters, even when the numbers are skewed so heavily toward one party, is no guarantee of success.

Historically, voter turnout among new registrants has been low. And while candidates have months to run registration drives, they have only a tiny window _ several days during early balloting, just hours on Election Day _ to get out the vote.

Still, an Associated Press analysis of registration data found that if the millions of newly registered voters turn out at the same rate as in 2004 and cast ballots with their declared party of choice, Obama could have the votes he needs to wrest several battleground states away from the Republican Party and its nominee, Sen. John McCain.

Obama could hold Pennsylvania and New Hampshire, won by Democrat John Kerry four years ago, and go on to pick up three states won by President Bush: Colorado, Nevada and New Mexico. He could also narrow the gap in Iowa, as well as in both Florida and North Carolina: two big Southern states worth 42 of the 270 electoral votes needed to win the White House."

A win for Obama in only a few of those eight states could doom McCain's chances. A victory in all could turn the election into a rout."

Posted by: broadwayjoe | October 9, 2008 7:42 PM | Report abuse

John Mccain was a drunk and drug user for much of his life. Hell he may still be. We know he takes at least 7 different drugs on a daily basis. We don't have to make this stuff up, Mccains history is well documented. He was in a casino as recently as 2 years ago drunk playing craps.


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Cindy McCain will not be making the decision in the Oval Office


I find the poster a little confused about who is the candidate.

Cocaine Use by a Presidential candidate is an issue - I feel very sorry for you that you believe that this country should be run by someone who is a former cocaine user - WHAT IF OBAMA WHEN TIMES ARE TOUGH DECIDES TO GO BACK TO COCAINE USE ???


WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO SAY THEN?

IF YOU THINK YOU ARE SO SMART........


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Posted by: 37thandOStreet | October 9, 2008 7:33 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: popasmoke | October 9, 2008 7:42 PM | Report abuse

Is Palin inciting violence by revving up the crowd with her "terrorists" rants?? Where is the Secret Sevrice on this??

An Independent Voice

Posted by: aeaustin | October 9, 2008 7:41 PM | Report abuse

If John McCain is so brave, why does he let his women do the attacking, but when face to face with Barack Obama didn't make anything like the claims Cindy McCain and "Siss, Boom, Bah" Sarah Palin do?

McCain isn't an old rooster, he's a sclerotic chicken.

Posted by: Martinedwinandersen | October 9, 2008 7:41 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for sharing traveler. Birds of a feather sure know how to lie.

Posted by: shedhair | October 9, 2008 7:41 PM | Report abuse

McCain has been reduced to pitiful and pathetic.

Posted by: Genefox1 | October 9, 2008 7:40 PM | Report abuse

To 37thandOStreet: It's a sad thing that in this age of wonderful research into drugs for almost every ailment they still haven't found one to cure idiots. So you'll just have to be patient and hope

Posted by: aredee | October 9, 2008 7:40 PM | Report abuse

37thandO, you need to get your facts straight. Obama graduated Magna Cum Laude. I don't know the exact cutoff, but his grades would have had to be extremely superior.

Posted by: VirginiaGal2 | October 9, 2008 7:38 PM | Report abuse

ty02010, can you guys do anything but spout RNC talking points about Fannie/Freddie.

The Republicans while in control of both Houses of Congress could have brought a bill to the floors of both chambers for a vote any time they damned well pleased, but they didn't - not once. Granted, the bill may not have passed but there would have been a vote.

Had the Republican controlled House or Senate brought a bill to the floor for a vote and Democrats voted it down with help from a few cross-over Pubbies or if the Dems had Filibustered it, you'd have a claim that the Dems blocked reform of Fannie/Freddie.

Repubs didn't bring a bill to the floor of either chamber so you're a lying shill.

Republicans - The party of personal responsibility, unless it's our fault. Then you're responsible for not stopping us.

Posted by: flyfishchef | October 9, 2008 7:38 PM | Report abuse

Heehee

Is Mac gonna let his druggie wife deliver the drug crap smear?

Of maybe St. Sarah, mother of tweeker Track?

We can only hope..........

:-)

Posted by: toritto | October 9, 2008 7:38 PM | Report abuse

OOOOOOOhhhh...The RNC is running ads in INDIANA???? Where next, Wyoming and Utah? Kind of says it all doesn't it.

Posted by: pgiaquinto | October 9, 2008 7:36 PM | Report abuse

What about John Singlaub, or G. Gordon Liddy? McCain's associations are much shadier...

JOHN SINGLAUB
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081007/ap_on_el_pr/mccain_iran_contra

G. Gordon Liddy
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/chi-oped0504chapmanmay04,0,6238795.column

Posted by: dmuradyan0126 | October 9, 2008 7:36 PM | Report abuse

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The Solution to the Economic Crisis is NOT to place a former cocaine user in charge of the World's Largest Economy.


Are you completely insane?


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Bookmark It Now !!!!

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The Solution to the Economic Crisis is NOT to place a former cocaine user in charge of the World's Largest Economy.


Are you completely insane?


Voted One Of The Nation's Top 5 Political Blogs For The Election Of 2008:


http://www.myspace.com/37thandostreet


Bookmark It Now !!!!

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Posted by: 37thandOStreet | October 9, 2008 7:36 PM | Report abuse

During the primary season I supported Senator Clinton all the way and was appalled by attacks on Hillary C. by fanatic Obama fans and pundits in the liberal media.
But deciding for whom to vote on November 4th is a no-brainer: Since Senator McCain and his intellectually challenged running mate are unfit to serve as president and vice president, I will vote for Senators Obama and Biden.
McCain's "Country First" slogan should really readi "McCain First."
For more on this, read:
http://www.reflectivepundit.com/reflectivepundit/2008/10/mccain-and-pali.html

Posted by: bn1123 | October 9, 2008 7:35 PM | Report abuse

Poppy2 - maybe you need to do some reading. The Democrats are the ones who refused to allow any review/oversight of Fannie and Freddie - it's their puchasing these shady loans that started the wildfire. There's a reason Chris Dodd is the number one recipient of campaign donations and Barack Obama is number 2 (this is lifetime donations - Chris Dodd 30 years in congress, Barack only 3 years). Tony Raines who was, and now isn't, on the Obama team was a principle at Fannie - he was paid $15 million a year. Do a little reading, it'll amaze you what you learn. You'll find republicans were asleep at the switch, but the democrats are the ones who flipped it.

Posted by: ty02010 | October 9, 2008 7:28 PM | Report abuse

hey ty, perhaps it's you who needs to do some reading. despite what mccain says, fannie and freddie did not start this fire. they were only marginally involved in the sub prime lending area. read steve pearlstein, pulitzer prize winner, for real fact. or better yet, look at fan/fre disclosures to see that still less than 2% of their loans are delinquent.

and the former CEO of fannie is FRANK Raines. but i'm sure you know that cause you do alot of reading.

Posted by: dcsportsfan1 | October 9, 2008 7:35 PM | Report abuse

Obama refuses to release his college and law school grades


I wonder why?

Maybe his GPA is lower than Bush's was.


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Posted by: 37thandOStreet | October 9, 2008 7:34 PM | Report abuse

Officermancuso - Wow, you almost did it, you almost got through an entire post without mentioning GWB. So no one was trying to poison the well when they were calling Sarah Palin those names? Suddenly, when Barack is on the receiving end, it's time to get along because times are tough. I'll repeat, if Barack wanted to do that he shouldn't have run the Keating 5 ad.

Posted by: ty02010 | October 9, 2008 7:34 PM | Report abuse

Heehee.

We are watching with our own eyes the slow motion impoverishment of America.

...and Top Gun Mac and St. Sarah of the Snows want to talk about what.........?

Any of these folks check their 401K balances lately?

:-)

Posted by: toritto | October 9, 2008 7:33 PM | Report abuse

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I find the poster a little confused about who is the candidate.

Cocaine Use by a Presidential candidate is an issue - I feel very sorry for you that you believe that this country should be run by someone who is a former cocaine user - WHAT IF OBAMA WHEN TIMES ARE TOUGH DECIDES TO GO BACK TO COCAINE USE ???


WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO SAY THEN?

IF YOU THINK YOU ARE SO SMART........


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Posted by: 37thandOStreet | October 9, 2008 7:33 PM | Report abuse

Heck lets just talk about a man who finished 894 in a class of 899. Spent most of his time drunk, confirmed by "EVERYONE" who know him back then. Fellow flyers said he would show up at the flight line drunk after being out all night. Mccain was not even as good a pilot as George W Bush. Mccain was not even a fighter pilot. The plane he flew was actually a trainer, a A-4 Skyhawk that was amusingly refereed to as "Scooter", "Kiddiecar", "Bantam Bomber", "Tinker Toy Bomber", They flew like 30 minute missions and dropped a couple of bomb then returned. Mccain was no "Top gun" fighter pilot like he would like to pretend. He may very well have been one of the worst pilot's in the navy and had a record to prove it. Mccain was a joke, is a joke, and has always been.

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shedhair wrote, "The subtle message is that McCain's war experience has altered his ability to deal with the world."

Actually, I'm more interested in his history of crashing and burning very expensive, taxpayer-funded airplanes (3 that were surely his fault, 1 that surely wasn't, and the one that got him into enemy custody which is debateable) - just the sort of thing you might expect of a spoiled son of an admiral who graduated 5'th from the bottom of his class at the Naval Academy in spite of his heritage.

Posted by: officermancuso | October 9, 2008 7:15 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: popasmoke | October 9, 2008 7:33 PM | Report abuse

Once again predatory Wall Street perverts and their Congressional deregulatory accomplices have sodomized the American middle-class and poor. Responsibility for these rapacious crimes does not lie with radical Muslim terrorists with names like Hussein, but with fellow Americans, Christians with names like George, Dick, Franklin, Robert, Phil, and too many other self-aggrandizing patrioits to name in this post. Yet, the wrinkly white-haired old dude persists in living in the past, making desperate attempts to avoid current events by creating a make-believe revisionist past for his opponent.

While recent events have focused on economic and financial issues, underlying those is a grave threat to national security, because of reckless, imprudent actions of Wall Streeters and a deregulatory Congress, all fellow Americans. These greedy stupid acts have emboldened sworn enemies and harmed steadfast allies.

Article 3, section 3 of the U.S. Constitution, the Treason Clause, clearly states that actions taken during wartime to aid and abet our nation's enemies are treasonous. If the current crisis, now spread throughout the world, does not aid and abet our enemies, then what does qualify as a treasonous act.

Patriotism is your country first. Let me repeat that last sentence for the benefit of Wall Street, its complicit congressional deregulatory minions, and the wrinkly, white-haired dude's campaign and followers. PATRIOTISM is your country first, not your country estate first.

A mad-as-hell patriot and middle class taxpayer

Posted by: mujo | October 9, 2008 7:32 PM | Report abuse

As Chuck Schumer said a couple months back:
"They got nothin'."

Posted by: Samson151 | October 9, 2008 7:32 PM | Report abuse

To put an end to this, Obama (and separately Biden) have called on McCain to raise these smears at the next debate, a put-up-or-shut-up, say-it-to-my-face approach. Will Mac take up his offer? Further Obama has bought a half-hour on prime-time network TV on the 29th to nail this thing down for good. So while we go into the biggest economic spiral since '29, keep on yelling Ayers, it shows your priorities and character.

And 37thandO, remember North Capitol and H.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | October 9, 2008 7:31 PM | Report abuse

Barack Oboma was 19/20 when the Weather Underground robbed and murdered police in New York in 1981, so the "I was just an eight year old" lie and excuse no long works.

Oboma also thinks there are 57 states so he may claim to have the intellect and judgement of an eight year old.


Posted by: Rezko2Raines | October 9, 2008 7:17 PM
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You what's scary? People like you with keyboards. The last mention of any activity for the Weather Underground was in 1975. Where and when did they attack anyone or anything in 1981?

By the way if you are looking at people who may have wished this country harm or thought badly about this country, why aren't you looking in to or posting your thoughts on Todd Palin the seperationist?

What you afraid of what you might learn?

Posted by: justonevoice | October 9, 2008 7:30 PM | Report abuse

Let's have enough of this inuendo and nonsense. So Obama knew someone through a working relationship some years ago - so what ? Is Mr. McCain totally clean on this topic ? If I understand the McCain supporter document recently issued, McCain himself is publicly supported by the very people who established the funding organization which worked with ..... Ayers. The RNC implication by association is that Obama was part of the "young Ayers" reactionary group - young is the word, isn't 8 years old a little too young for Obama to have been an "associate" ?
Now on Mr. McCain - at least twice now he has stated that he knows how to "get Bin Laden". If this is so Mr. McCain a patriot would inform the relevant authorities of how to do this and Bin Laden's days of freedom would be over. However, McCain's lack of doing so must be interepreted as proof of the fact that a) he isn't a patriot of b) he's simply a liar. Given the ample lies he is capable of expounding about Obama on almost any subject, I strongly suspect that latter applies - he is indeed a lair.
Before leaving the topic of Mr. Ayers I note that he and his wife are both free individuals which means, I assume, that the American justice system examined the Ayers couple and for whatever reason found no basis to incarcerate them ? McCain appears not to have accepted the decisions of the American justice system and has "other ideas" - isn't that troublesome ?

Posted by: aredee | October 9, 2008 7:30 PM | Report abuse

Great Martine, then let's make a deal, let's not vote for any of those drug users. Oh wait a minute, I don't see Cindy's name on the ballot, only Barack's.

Posted by: ty02010 | October 9, 2008 7:30 PM | Report abuse

McCain, the patriot who stands for country before party, is running a scorched earth campaign.

In normal times, that would be obnoxious.

In a time of financial collapse, when the next president and the next president's party is likely to be leading US citizens through years if not decades of financial hardship left to him as a legacy from George W. Bush's "buy now, pay later" rob our children scheme, it's not just obnoxious. It's something far worse.

It's a poison introduced into the nation's blood, by those who will gladly inflame any disreputable passion in order to gratify their lust for power.

It's the germ of a thing which could complete Dubya's work, which so far has rendered our military and our economy null and void. This germ could render democracy null and void.

Vote "No" to hate, vote "No" to contemptible politics, vote "Yes" to the belief that citizens in a democracy can hold elections in which issues are debated without inflaming those passions which undermine civic order and the rule of law.

Vote Obama.

Posted by: officermancuso | October 9, 2008 7:29 PM | Report abuse

Poppy2 - maybe you need to do some reading. The Democrats are the ones who refused to allow any review/oversight of Fannie and Freddie - it's their puchasing these shady loans that started the wildfire. There's a reason Chris Dodd is the number one recipient of campaign donations and Barack Obama is number 2 (this is lifetime donations - Chris Dodd 30 years in congress, Barack only 3 years). Tony Raines who was, and now isn't, on the Obama team was a principle at Fannie - he was paid $15 million a year. Do a little reading, it'll amaze you what you learn. You'll find republicans were asleep at the switch, but the democrats are the ones who flipped it.

Posted by: ty02010 | October 9, 2008 7:28 PM | Report abuse

OF COURSE, CINDY MCCAIN'S SERIOUS DRUG USE--AS AN ADULT--DOESN'T COUNT BECAUSE SHE IS RICH AND WHITE ...

Former Oklahoma Gov. Frank Keating, a McCain campaign co-chairman, edged up to an explicitly racial attack on Barack Obama on Thursday, describing the Illinois Senator as a "guy of the street" before raising his youthful drug use.

WHITE AND RICH DESCRIBES MCCAIN'S LOBBYIST FRIENDS, THOSE FAVORED UNDER HIS TAX PLAN, AND MOST OF THE FACES YOU SAW AT THE GOP CONVENTION ...

WHAT ABOUT FAIRNESS? WHAT ABOUT EQUAL RIGHTS? WHAT ABOUT THE AMERICAN DREAM AND OUR SHINING CITY ON THE HILL?

Posted by: Martinedwinandersen | October 9, 2008 7:28 PM | Report abuse

These Moron Con Econ Terrorists Communists, Old Adulterer Songbird, War Criminal Treasonous Traitor KLA Supporter Dirty Corrupt Moron Con Econ Terrorrist McLobbyist and the Born Idiot Pro Life Killer Retard Satanic Sarah will destroy America.

These Moron Con Econ Communist Terrorist will finish the job Mission Accomplished Born Again Faith Based Pro Life Lying Mass Murderer Serial Killer War Criminal Terrorist Nazi has started, these Moron Con Econ Terrorist will destroy the Economy and America

Google these to learn more about the Old Adulterer Songbird Treasonous Traitor Dirty Corrupt McLobbyist, this

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Moron Con Communist Econ Terrorists like Old Adulterer Songbird Treasonous Traitor War Criminal Mass Murderer Corrupt McLobbyist & the Born Again Killer Retard will Destroy America and finish the job destroying the Economy after the Axis of Evil leaves.

Why won't the war hero release his Complete Military Records? What is the Moron Con Econ Terrorist hiding?

Posted by: mawt | October 9, 2008 7:27 PM | Report abuse

Curious how all the right wing-nuts have to shout using ALL CAPS...feeling a bit anxious and desperate? You wing-nuts can rant and rave all you want! Come January 20,2009 you all will be staring at the television and watch Barack Hussein Obama become the 44th President of the United States. I know it...YOU KNOW IT! HA!

Posted by: logcabin1836 | October 9, 2008 7:26 PM | Report abuse

Sick, sad, and desperate. The Dow is in freefall, Afghanistan is falling...this is their response?

Posted by: Attucks | October 9, 2008 7:25 PM | Report abuse

The Republicans do not get it. The American people are worried and scared. They do not caree about some formr 1960's radical who his only briefly associated with Obama. It's the economy, stupid! Lets put McCain out of his misery and have the elections now. I hate seeing an old man drowning

Posted by: prosperity2un2000 | October 9, 2008 7:25 PM | Report abuse

OK, so who else besides Barack Obama was “palling around” with “domestic terrorist” Bill Ayers in the Chicago school reform efforts of the late 1990s and early 2000s?

Among those serving with Ayers and Barack Obama on the board of the Woods Charitable Fund were Cynthia Campbell, President of the McCormick Theological Seminary (Presbyterian); R. Eden Martin, President of the Commercial Club of Chicago (a club of Chicago’s business and civic elite dedicated to “promoting the social and economic vitality of the metropolitan area of Chicago” whose members over the years have included such notables as George Pullman, Marshall Field, Cyrus McCaormick, George Armour, and Julius Rosenwald); and Charles Wheatley, President of Sahara Enterprises, a Chicago investment advisory firm.

On the board of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, a charitable foundation supporting local school reform efforts which Bill Ayers was instrumental in starting and Barack Obama later chaired, were such notables as Stanley Ikenberry, President of the University of Illinois; Arnold Weber, president of the Civic Committee of the Commercial Club of Chicago; Ray Romero, V-P and general counsel of Ameritech and former Illinois Commerce Commissioner appointed by Gov. Jim Thompson (R-IL); Wanda White, former deputy commissioner of economic development under Chicago mayors Harold Washington, Eugene Sawyer, and Richard M. Daley; Susan Crown, billionaire philanthropist and member of the Crown family, prominent Chicago financiers; Handy Lindsey, Jr., executive director and later president of the Field Foundation of Chicago; Edward Bottum, former president of Continental Illinois Bank; Scott C. Smith, President, CEO, and Chairman of the Chicago Tribune; Nancy Searle, philanthropist and heiress to the Searle family pharmaceutical fortune (G.D. Searle Co.’s most famous chief executive was Donald Rumsfeld, later Secretary of Defense); and Victoria Chou, Dean of the University of Illinois College of Education.

Other prominent backers of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge who helped Ayers secure funding for the group included Adele Smith Simmons, president of the John D. and Catherine T. MacaArthur Foundation and former president of Hampshire College; Deborah Leff, president of the Joyce Foundation and director of the John F. Kennedy Library; Patricia Albjerg Graham, president of the Spencer Foundation and former dean of the Harvard Graduate School of Education. Primary funding for the group came from the Annenberg Foundation, funded by billionaire Walter Annenberg, publisher of TV Guide, the Philadelphia Inquirer, the Daily Racing Form, and Seventeen magazine and former ambassador to Britain under President Richard Nixon. The foundation’s education giving was directed by a committee chaired by Vartan Gregorian, president of Brown University. Presiding over the ceremony at which the check from the Annenberg Foundation was presented to the Ayers-initiated Chicago Annenberg Challenge were Illinois Gov. Jim Edgar (R-IL), Chicago Mayor Richard M. Daley, and Wallis Annenberg, daughter of Walter Annenberg.

Serving along with Ayers on the board of the Chicago School Reform Collaborative at this time were leading school administrators, principals, teachers, teachers union officials, and education experts, including Beverly Tunney, president of the Chicago Principals Association; Deborah Lynch-Walsh, teacher and president of the Chicago Teachers Union; Carol Swinney, advisor to Mayor Richard M. Daley; Lynn St. James. chief education officer, Chicago Public Schools; Joan Jeter-Slay, former Chicago School Board member; Brenda Hefner, head of the Chicago office of the Illinois State Board of Education under then-Gov. Jim Edgar (R-IL); Peter Martinez, education program officer for the John D. and Catherine T. MacArthur Foundation; and Patricia Harvey, chief accountability officer for Chicago Public Schools.

Sinister, isn’t it? This list reads like a “who’s who” of the Chicago and Illinois business, political, civic, and education establishment---all, we are to believe, under the sway of, and “palling around with”, the “domestic terrorist” Bill Ayers.

Come on, people, get real. This was a mainstream effort by a whole lot of honorable and civic-minded people to reform Chicago’s troubled public schools, top to bottom. Barack Obama was one of those honorable and civic-minded people. If you’re going to tar him with a sinister association with “domestic terrorism” as a consequence of these efforts, then fairness demands that you similarly tar the entire Chicago business, political, civic, and education establishment. And I’m afraid that’s just not plausible.

Posted by: bradk1 | October 9, 2008 7:25 PM | Report abuse

People talk about how the troubled economy has done McCain in—well the blame is not with the troubled economy, it is McCain’s inability to articulate a vision of American life on the other side of this troubled economy. Einstein once said, “Imagination is everything. It is the preview of life's coming attractions.”

In times of trouble, American’s need a preview of life’s coming attractions; we need to know what’s possible and how we might get there. In response to American’s pleas for a vision of the future, McCain plays us some old, immaterial newsreel clips of a man who neither holds our futures in his hands nor is poised to guide us there. Americans can careless about Ayers.

McCain is losing because McCain is a man without imagination.

Posted by: jandcgall1 | October 9, 2008 7:24 PM | Report abuse

McSleaze hangs out with known terrorist Henry Kissinger and fascists applaud

clap hands, Repiglicans!

all you stand for is failure, lies and violence--


oh yeah, the "free market" too

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Posted by: 37thandOStreet | October 9, 2008 7:22 PM | Report abuse

Resko2Raines......you'd have a little more credibility if you could spell his name correctly.....Obama, not Oboma

Posted by: logcabin1836 | October 9, 2008 7:21 PM | Report abuse

Rezko2Raines


So why would Obama make friends with someone who had committed a crime earlier?

The QUESTION GOES TO OBAMA'S JUDGEMENT AS AN ADULT -

CLEARLY OBAMA'S WAS MORE CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT AYERS COULD DO FOR OBAMA'S CAREER THAN FOR ANY MORALITY ON THE PART OF OBAMA.


THE SAME ISSUE ARISES WHEN THINKING ABOUT REV. WRIGHT.

OBAMA SAT IN THAT CHURCH FOR YEARS, BRINGING HIS CHILDREN TO A RACIST CHURCH, NEVER MAKING THE MORAL JUDGEMENT. IS THIS THE MAN WE WANT MAKING DECISIONS FOR THIS COUNTRY AND FOR THIS ECONOMY???

ARE YOU INSANE ????

PROTECT THIS NATION - KEEP OBAMA AWAY FROM THE OVAL OFFICE.


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Posted by: 37thandOStreet | October 9, 2008 7:21 PM | Report abuse

The Republicans are the economic terrorists driving the elderly citizens to penury and a painful end.

Posted by: Poppy2 | October 9, 2008 7:19 PM | Report abuse

shedhair wrote: "Now Obama is calling Mccain eccentric and erratic. They confuse passion with crankiness. For those of you too young to understand this jab, its a rehash of the liberal lefts denigration of Viet Nam Vets. They can't let go of the guilt of having abandoned the Vietnamese to a communist dictatorship.

Liberals abandoned Vietnam? Nice attempt by you at revisionist history BUT it was two Republicans, Richard Milhouse Nixon - I'm sure you remember him, the only American president to resign in disgrace after McCain's "good friend" G. Gordon Liddy bungled the Watergate break-in. Henry Kissinger, also a Republican and recent adviser to Governor Palin, negotiated the Paris Peace Accords after Nixon was elected on his "Peace with Honor" platform because those pesky American voters were sick of the war began in 1959 by another Republican, Dwight Eisenhower with Operation White Star in Laos before escalating into Vietnam in early 1960.

Posted by: flyfishchef | October 9, 2008 7:18 PM | Report abuse

These Moron Con Econ Terrorists Communists, Old Adulterer Songbird, War Criminal Treasonous Traitor KLA Supporter Dirty Corrupt Moron Con Econ Terrorrist McLobbyist and the Born Idiot Pro Life Killer Retard Satanic Sarah will destroy America.

These Moron Con Econ Communist Terrorist will finish the job Mission Accomplished Born Again Faith Based Pro Life Lying Mass Murderer Serial Killer War Criminal Terrorist Nazi has started, these Moron Con Econ Terrorist will destroy the Economy and America

Google these to learn more about the Old Adulterer Songbird Treasonous Traitor Dirty Corrupt McLobbyist, this

McCain Kosovo KLA Muslim Terrorists
McCain 5 Lobbyists made millions from Iran business
McCain Wife of Pow duncan hunter Ethics Complaint
McCain Deal Hudson
McCain Rick Renzi
McCain Songbird
McCain Adultery
McCain Lobbyists
McCain Big Oil Lobbyists
McCain Charlie Black
McCain USS Forrestal
McCain Rick Davis
McCain Temper
McCain Deal Hudson
McCain The 4th Reich
McCain Infidelity
McCain Phil Gramm Enron Loophole
McCain Enron Loophole
McCain Arizona Mob
McCain Kosovo KLA Muslim Terrorists
McCain Fortune
McCain Traitor
McCain Flip Flops
McCain Torturers' Lobby
McCain Manchurian

Moron Con Communist Econ Terrorists like Old Adulterer Songbird Treasonous Traitor War Criminal Mass Murderer Corrupt McLobbyist & the Born Again Killer Retard will Destroy America and finish the job destroying the Economy after the Axis of Evil leaves.

Why won't the war hero release his Complete Military Records? What is the Moron Con Econ Terrorist hiding?

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Posted by: 37thandOStreet | October 9, 2008 7:17 PM | Report abuse


Barack Oboma was 19/20 when the Weather Underground robbed and murdered police in New York in 1981, so the "I was just an eight year old" lie and excuse no long works.

Oboma also thinks there are 57 states so he may claim to have the intellect and judgement of an eight year old.

Posted by: Rezko2Raines | October 9, 2008 7:17 PM | Report abuse

Cindy McCain should keep her little trap shut and get back to being a Stepford Wife and just stand behind John and smile. If she wants to question Obama's character then she's fair game as well. Let's question her character with having an affair with a married man (McCain), and let's ask about her financial dealings with the rogue nation of Sudan and other terrorist countries, and let's ask her about her stealing prescription drugs from a charitable organization. Ok Cindy you want to question someone else's character...bring it on!

Posted by: logcabin1836 | October 9, 2008 7:17 PM | Report abuse

shedhair wrote, "The subtle message is that McCain's war experience has altered his ability to deal with the world."

Actually, I'm more interested in his history of crashing and burning very expensive, taxpayer-funded airplanes (3 that were surely his fault, 1 that surely wasn't, and the one that got him into enemy custody which is debateable) - just the sort of thing you might expect of a spoiled son of an admiral who graduated 5'th from the bottom of his class at the Naval Academy in spite of his heritage.

Posted by: officermancuso | October 9, 2008 7:15 PM | Report abuse

Nice try Obama2008, but why don't you tell everybody Joe Vogler died in 1993 - there's no evidence of any sort Sarah Palin or her husband ever even met Vogler.

Try again.

Posted by: ty02010 | October 9, 2008 7:15 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: 37thandOStreet | October 9, 2008 7:15 PM | Report abuse

Chris, I frankly don't get your decision as a Post journalist to provide a forum for the Ayers smear against Obama in the ad.

The smear is not new; this is the same junk that was peddled four or five months ago non-stop on TV. I thought guilt-by-association went out with Joe McCarthy. This is what Edward R. Murrow and Walter Cronkite fought against. Murrow might have aired it but only with some acidic criticism of it.

The smear is illogical and idiotic in that it seeks to slime Obama for knowing an 80 year old tenured college professor with a national recognition in education policy who did something when Obama was eight years old. By embedding the ad here, you are rebroadcasting it for free, enabling and spreading the smear. Much better -- and journalistically responsible -- is the approach of Campbell Brown who today called out McCain's campaign for what she explicitly termed "race baiting."

But as it turns out, the smear has unintentionally helped Obama by turning off voters. Since the smear campaign started VA went from toss-up to solid O, NC went to leaning O, and GA is now in play for the first time in memory. As well, since the smears, O went ahead in West Virginia which no one would have predicted. In the national polls, O is up 11 in Gallup, 10 in DailyKos and up 4 in Zogby, which had been an outlier poll.
In the electoral polls, the solid O states (all outside the MOE) already put Obama at above 270 without including either OH or FL, which both lean his way.

So we are sure with 300 million people concerned about health care, jobs, housing, and the collapse of the credit market, Obama delights in knowing his opponents just plan only to yell "Ayers, Ayers, Ayers" up to election day.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | October 9, 2008 7:14 PM | Report abuse

I'm more concerned with McCain's ties to Phil Gramm.

Posted by: hpclub | October 9, 2008 7:12 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: 37thandOStreet | October 9, 2008 7:11 PM | Report abuse

What a shame McCain learned nothing when the Rove camp smeared him with a story about an illegitimate child. How little integrity must he have to want to win at this cost?

Posted by: sarahabc | October 9, 2008 7:11 PM | Report abuse

If you think this is bad, this isn't anything - wait until the info. re. Barack and the good Rev. Wright hits again -his spritual mentor who it seems Barack never paid any attention to for 20 years, and then there's Rezko - let's not forget the sweetheart land deal and the money he raised for Barack- he's spilling his guts to the feds to avoid jail time, and what about the PLO spokesman who Barack says just lived down the street, oh wait, no his kids just went to school with the guy's kids, abnd then ther's Barack's connection to Acorn. Should be a fun month. If Barack wants to do a big ad on the Keating 5, he opened the door to whatever the republicans want to publish.

Posted by: ty02010 | October 9, 2008 7:11 PM | Report abuse

Seems McCain is not the war hero he claims according to other Vietnam veterans. Just like Jane Fonda, McCain appeared in communist propaganda clips making anti-American statements. Difficult to believe and yet it's all there in the declassified Dept of Defense documents. In fact, the first thing McCain did after being shot down in Vietnam was tell the communists, "O.K., I'll give you military information if you will take me to the hospital."

Sources:
US News & World Report (originally published 1973)
http://www.usnews.com/articles/news/2008/01/28/john-mccain-prisoner-of-war-a-first-person-account.html?PageNr=2

Vietnam Veterans Against John McCain
http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnmccain.com/index.htm

Posted by: FellowTraveler | October 9, 2008 7:10 PM | Report abuse

Read these comments. See the fruits of the McCain campaign's effort to "turn the page" from a focus on the economy that they felt was unfavorable to their prospects.

Some hero.

Posted by: officermancuso | October 9, 2008 7:10 PM | Report abuse

Now Obama is calling Mccain eccentric and erratic. They confuse passion with crankiness. For those of you too young to understand this jab, its a rehash of the liberal lefts denigration of Viet Nam Vets. This campaign is becoming an example of the culture wars of the 1970's . Pretty soon they will be calling him a baby killer. They can't let go of the guilt of having abandoned the Vietnamese to a communist dictatorship. Don't think for a minute this is not a call to the old radicals, ie Ayers.

The subtle message is that McCain's war experience has altered his ability to deal with the world. Its an old canard that has been used against vets since Viet Nam. It is a very nasty form of discrimination and a sign of how they use " code" words that are similar to some of the racist " code" words the left are quite quick to use.

One has to wonder how low the Dems will go. The old party of equal rights is now using the race card at every turn while Democrat Larry Flynt makes a porn film that is a " code " word for the rape of Sarah Palin.

Its a shame that Americans will allow the denigration of a war hero and running mate with demeaning " code" words

Posted by: shedhair | October 9, 2008 7:09 PM | Report abuse

Obloodyhell

Ayers pales next to henry Kissinger. Look up East Timor and Kissinger.

Posted by: edlharris | October 9, 2008 7:09 PM | Report abuse

Boy (mind, we don't mean that in a 'bad' way), you can already smell the next one coming from the sly mccain-palin ex-rovian campaign strategists, can't you: Obama will soon be accused of fathering a black love child.

and mccain and palin are absolutely right; now that they've 'turned the page' on the bush administration, the economy and those two stalemated wars, we can get to those Real Issues at stake here: bill ayers, the reverend wright and the 'activist' judges; yeah, that's the straighttalkin' ticket everyone has been praying for - run for the roundhouse sarah, those newsies can't corner you there!

Posted by: ithejury | October 9, 2008 7:09 PM | Report abuse

I would prefer to stick with the issues.

I'm not voting based on this, but I am curious. Anyone know who Joe Vogler is? He was the guy who started the Alaskan Secession Organization, who Palin's husband was a part of and Palin (as a Mayor/Gov) made a video wishing one of their meetings good luck.

Joe Vogler had This to say about this great nation:

"The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government," Vogler said in a 1991 interview. "And I won't be buried under their damn flag. I'll be buried in Dawson. And when Alaska is an independent nation they can bring my bones home."

See Here:

http://www.thenation.com/blogs/campaignmatters/353575/palin_s_secessionist_friends

Is it fair to do guilt by association on her? Or focus on her individual person? Does she have poor character and judgment? How about McCain with Keating and Gramm? Their actions affected the people. Everyone can point fingers all day, but at the end, we should be voting on the issues. This isn't "who do I like the most." We have to take this seriously because people have a lot at stake to be sacrificed for four more years after the current administration.

Obama/Biden '08

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Posted by: 37thandOStreet | October 9, 2008 7:06 PM | Report abuse

> "All of the right wing allegations have nothing to do with present conduct."

OK, then, let's hear what Ayers said after 9/11... which led to such outcry that he cancelled a book tour.

Or how about what he said praising Thug Dictator Hugo Chavez at an educational summit in South America in 2006?

The guy is utterly unrepentant about what he did, and stands clearly and openly for the same things nowadays. He's a radical, anti-American socialist, who favors the overthrow of the USA.

Period. No ifs, ands, or buts.

And his association with Obama has HARDLY been as incidental as Obama has been trying to claim for the last year and more.

These aren't just spurious claims, they are easily found with attributions on the Web, if you just go looking for them.

Start with Stanley Kurtz and go from there.

Posted by: OBloodyHell | October 9, 2008 7:06 PM | Report abuse

The RNC is going to the well one too many times using the old "Rovian" playbook. The average American is worried sick about their homes,retirement funds, healthcare, inflation, etc....they could care less about some bogus Ayers story....and if you don't believe me...just look at the polls...just look at the polls...Gallup..Obama 52%-McCain 41%..and the spread is growing! Come January 20, 2009 Barack Hussein Obama will become our 44th President of the United States. Glorious!

Posted by: logcabin1836 | October 9, 2008 7:05 PM | Report abuse

If McCain really believed the goat excrement he's spewing, he would, at the very least, return the donations Lenore Annenberg has made to his campaign, reject her endorsement, and denounce all the Republicans who served on the board with Ayers.

Maybe he can drag Patty Hearst into this somehow. I see a made-for-tv movie in our future.

Posted by: b_side | October 9, 2008 7:05 PM | Report abuse

Obama's empty headed fanatics in the press are claiming incitement, but we know from the primaries how "plants" in the crowds were used to dupe the media.....
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Now, is that a fact? I'm just curious: are those very same provocateurs putting inciting words in Palin's and McCain's mouths? Please explain exactly how this works, or risk appearing really, really stupid in the eyes of thousands of readers around the country.

Posted by: abqcleve | October 9, 2008 7:05 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: ty02010

Hey flyfishchef, just got my absentee ballot in the mail, GWB isn't on it. Who cares if he lied.

Who cares if Bush lied? For starters, the friends and loved ones of those killed in Iraq care, D0uchebag.

Do we need to discuss this any further?

Posted by: flyfishchef | October 9, 2008 7:04 PM | Report abuse

McCain Kosovo KLA Muslim Terrorists
McCain 5 Lobbyists made millions from Iran business
McCain Songbird
McCain Adultery
McCain Lobbyists
McCain Big Oil Lobbyists
McCain Charlie Black
McCain USS Forrestal
McCain Rick Davis
McCain Temper
McCain Rick Renzi
McCain Deal Hudson
McCain The 4th Reich
McCain Infidelity
McCain Phil Gramm
McCain Enron Loophole
McCain Arizona Mob
McCain Kosovo KLA Muslim Terrorists
McCain Fortune
McCain Traitor
McCain Flip Flops
McCain Torturers' Lobby
McCain Manchurian

Moron Con Communist Econ Terrorists like Old Adulterer Songbird Treasonous Traitor War Criminal Mass Murderer Corrupt McLobbyist & the Born Again Killer Retard will Destroy America and finish the job destroying the Economy after the Axis of Evil leaves.

Why won't the war hero release his Complete Military Records? What is the Moron Con Econ Terrorist hiding?

Posted by: mawt | October 9, 2008 7:03 PM | Report abuse


Bill Ayers the unapologetic terrorist could help Obama by just doing a simple interview (should be easy for a highly acclaimed and "respected" professor/educator).

If that's too hard, maybe Obama and Ayers could hold a joint news conference and claim they hardly know each other...

Posted by: Rezko2Raines | October 9, 2008 7:03 PM | Report abuse

Insult and misdirect all you want. The facts are there, and easily researched. The Post, NYT and other formerly respected news organizations can only stonewall for so long. Some of this is already appearing in smaller circulations, like IBD and the Wall Street Journal. It's not just right-wing bloggers; there are serious people looking into it, and it will not die with a snooty dismissal because there is just too much smoke not to be hiding a fire.

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Pray, direct us to a single, responsible source. The smear didn't work for Clinton when the economy was relatively healthy, and it sure won't work now.

Posted by: abqcleve | October 9, 2008 7:02 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Tom22 | October 9, 2008 7:02 PM | Report abuse

Tom22, keep up the "skinheads for Palin" routine.

Thank you.

Posted by: officermancuso | October 9, 2008 7:01 PM | Report abuse

We need to be especially watchful. Why? McCain cannot win on the economy. Look for a Bush declared "national security emergency" before the election. Possibly, a pre-emptive USA attack on Iran, based on "secret intelligence" only accessible to Cheney and Bush (of course). Another possibility is a delay of the elections due to "the crisis we are in" by Bush. It could be almost anything. Or, a sudden "new discovery" about Obama that is extremely negative and inflammatory, 2 days before the election so he cannot refute it. America criticizes Russia and China but her own history with elections leaves much to be desired. We need international observers here now, from Russia, China, India and around the world to monitor this election. I remember here in Florida what happened in 2000. Thousands of votes, in black neighboorhoods "disappeared," people in poor neighboorhoods were told their identification and drivers licenses were "not acceptable" as proof of identity to vote. And, even some precincts changed locations the day of the election. It was very despicable. Be on guard and watch on election day for trickery and forgery. And, watch for a faked up emergency to try to throw the progressives off track.

Posted by: sofla | October 9, 2008 7:00 PM | Report abuse

"The Solution to the Economic Crisis is NOT to place a former cocaine user in charge of thw World's Largest Economy."

Why not? At least he'll have plenty of energy to focus on cleaning up the mess the Pubbies have spent 8 years leaving.

Of course, Bush is an admitted former alcoholic who refused to answer cocaine use questions, Palin's "First Dude" who claims he adviser her on policy has had a DWI and McCain's wife is a convicted drug offender and former prescription drug abuser. But that's different, because they're Republicans and Republicans are hypocrites, never holding their own party up to the standards they demand of others. Detailed examinations of the unsavory past of one are good for everyone, not just political enemies.

And since you guys keep going on about Ayers and Rezko, here are three names for you: Liddy, Symington and Keating. All three convicted felons but in the interest of fairness Symington's conviction was overturned on appeal and the government's attempts to retry him ended after a Clinton pardon. Just like Ayers, Symington got off on a technicality and then received a presidential pardon to stymie the retrial. No retrial and no pardon for Ayers. Again, unsavory associations all around but that's okay since McCain is a Republican and Republicans are hypocrites.

Posted by: flyfishchef | October 9, 2008 7:00 PM | Report abuse

If Investor's Business Daily and the Wall Street Journal were "serious", rather than ideological, surely they'd have warned long and loud in advance of the present financial catastrophe. Doncha think? Ain't them da experts?

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Posted by: Tom22 | October 9, 2008 6:59 PM | Report abuse

Does the GOP really want to be considered the defacto American Nazi Party or skinhead party? Thats what McPalin are grasping for as their base shrinks.

Posted by: paulnolan97 | October 9, 2008 6:59 PM | Report abuse

The legacy of the RNC - wars, death, hatred, and socialism. These folks need to be branded and turned out to pasture on election day ...............
http://thefiresidepost.com/2008/10/09/the-gop-legacy-wars-death-hatred-socialism/

Posted by: glclark4750 | October 9, 2008 6:57 PM | Report abuse

GM stock is now down to $5.00 a share. 10 States have announced that they only have enough unemployment funds to last for 6 months. The GOP just got 8 million dollars from Wachovia? (what's up with that?)

And McCain and Palin (who runs an oil welfare state) are talking about a 60's radical who is now a leading figure in education circles?

Meanwhile McCain is supporting socialist mortgage bailouts - really strange.
My Republican friends are leaving their party in droves, while Barack Obama talks about a pay-as-you go fiscal policy. He's a centrist and McCain is an erratic old man - lurching from one gimmick to the next, in his pursuit of the Presidency at all costs.
He isn't about country first, he is about himself first - damn his party, damn Americans and full speed ahead (off a cliff)

Posted by: DOlivervelez | October 9, 2008 6:57 PM | Report abuse

Hey flyfishchef, just got my absentee ballot in the mail, GWB isn't on it. Who cares if he lied.

Posted by: ty02010 | October 9, 2008 6:56 PM | Report abuse

American democracy is based on performance. We don't elect people because they have a belief so much as what they have done and can do. If it were otherwise we wouldnt need elections, we would just have royalty. By any standard Obama is an achiever. He achieved an education most people would want to have; he achieved political office and achieved a nomination. This is what America is all about folks, someone trying to compete to do better. What do I need to know about Obama, its what I already know that he cares enough to make the country better. I can't say that for McCain, who has abandoned his principles.

Posted by: paulnolan97 | October 9, 2008 6:56 PM | Report abuse


Obama's empty headed fanatics in the press are claiming incitement, but we know from the primaries how "plants" in the crowds were used to dupe the media.

Pretty soon Obama will be like the sheriff in Blazing Saddles who points a gun to his head and declares "Stop or this racist idiot will shoot himself!..."

Posted by: Rezko2Raines | October 9, 2008 6:55 PM | Report abuse

aengil

That's it? Insulting me about my knowledge of what a director does? Splitting hairs on semantics? Misdirected statements implying I said Ayers was on the board, when I said he was on the winning team, the steering committee that selected the board, and worked closely with Obama for the first year? Let's see some form of reasonable argument, please. No one cares if you can spin insults well.

Insult and misdirect all you want. The facts are there, and easily researched. The Post, NYT and other formerly respected news organizations can only stonewall for so long. Some of this is already appearing in smaller circulations, like IBD and the Wall Street Journal. It's not just right-wing bloggers; there are serious people looking into it, and it will not die with a snooty dismissal because there is just too much smoke not to be hiding a fire.

Posted by: FlyDiesel | October 9, 2008 6:55 PM | Report abuse

You have coke users in the White House selling nukes to Pakistan and if you have nothing to say, stop making the same post incessantly, it makes you look like a stupid Republican who just lost half their wealth and wonder why he can't fetch up no manhood attacking the wrong country after 9-11. Bush is baking terrorists like Betty Bubba Crocker! Elect the 72-year-old racist moron and you might as well find a large building to leap from because our economy will collapse if it doesn't happen already. If you elect MCMORON and the IDIOT FROM ALASKA, the world will crawl into the fetal position and the cockroaches will inherit the bank vaults. Vote for a future, vote Democratic!!!!!!!

Posted by: rhyer | October 9, 2008 6:54 PM | Report abuse

I'm not an expert, but I suspect these tactics by the RNC and McCain will reinforce his base voters and perhaps persuade some suburban middle class McCain supporters to abandon McCain. It's as if he is Nero fiddling while the stock market declines, and then scapegoating others.

Sadly though, these smear and scare tactics may frighten some people into voting for the white guy with the American name, even though they were open to Obama.

The biggest impact I think will be to stoke the fires with the O'Reilly and Hannity followers of the country, and they are already in McCain's camp.

Posted by: bfjam | October 9, 2008 6:34 PM
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Mostly agreed, though I would venture to add that a small group of Americans this crowd professes to care about needs to weigh in to calm things down, especially at the rallies: the Secret Service. These folks' job, always one of the most difficult imaginable, is getting very, very threatened by deliberate stoking of the lunatic fringe. The utter selfishness of a campaign that refuses to recognize and reject the dangers they're inciting is in and of itself disqualifying for a prospective President.

Cooler heads in the Republican party, few though they are, recognize the danger and are calling for a ceasefire. Broder is an example, last night on CNN. What Palin and McCain are doing is beyond foolhardy: it is a vindictive attempt to incite violence. They know, in their stony hearts, that if something happens to Obama, no true American would go for McCain as a second choice: but they don't care--they want Obama to go down.

What they're doing is criminal and the responsible members of the Republican Party need to speak up or forever abandon any hope of leading this country again.

Posted by: abqcleve | October 9, 2008 6:53 PM | Report abuse

I noticed about 6 weeks ago in the pages of National Review Online something I've noticed during the past few days here in WaPo com boxes: a sudden, sharp deterioration in the quality of arguments offered in favor of conservative positions.

Posted by: officermancuso | October 9, 2008 6:53 PM | Report abuse

All of the right wing allegations have nothing to do with present conduct. In an achievement oriented society like America we judge people by what they do and have accomplished not what they did decades ago or other people did that has no connection. Thats what makes us Americans part of a democracy rather than an aristocracy. If we wanted to elevate people based on associations we would have kings and queens and still be living under British rule.

Posted by: paulnolan97 | October 9, 2008 6:52 PM | Report abuse

Ok, so are these "two" the same person with two accounts - or is it just coincidence that the two posts are within five minutes of each other?

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--"Actually, this Ayers stuff is dangerous and the McCain campaign is fully aware of it. Tonight, spend a few minutes on the internet and look at a vidio of a Palin rally where she throws this stuff at the mob.

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--"Obama in 2008!
Vote for Obama!
Redistribution of Property in suburbs to minority communities
Create programs across the U.S. to recognize and end White Privilege

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I think that no one actually reads these things, but to give the benefit of the doubt - in this case I think the racist posted while the decent human being was writing.

Posted by: DonJasper | October 9, 2008 6:52 PM | Report abuse

go to you tube mccain palin mob. that is the real face of republican america

Posted by: JudgeAlan | October 9, 2008 6:51 PM | Report abuse


Senator Obama talks about helping his needy brothers, but he seems to forget about his real brother George in Kenya.

All George wants is money to learn a trade so that he makes more than $1.00 (100 cents) per month and lives in a dusty hut. As Hillary said, Barack is all talk and he'd rather hang around with Ayers, Rezko, Rev Wright, ACORN and countless other corrupt characters rather than help out a truly needy brother.

Posted by: Rezko2Raines | October 9, 2008 6:51 PM | Report abuse

paulnolan97 .. you are right. My wife and I have been talking about this very subject. We have recognized that there are many direct parallels that can be drawn between McCain's actions and those of people like Hitler.

Inciting the with hatred, fear, anger and racism. McCain is a very dangerous man no doubt.

Posted by: dave40 | October 9, 2008 6:50 PM | Report abuse

Palins rallies are now attracting skin heads. Some were interviewed on a local TV station.

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The old man and his igloo honey have nothing left but the race card. How sick, and sicker it will get. Palin already brings out the mob, screaming for blood by the time she is done with them. Rallies for rubes, fools, and various misfits, rivited up to a frenzy on lies and half truths. Reminds you of the old Nurenberg rallies on the History Channel. Palin is leading the old mans brown shirts and whipping them up to a frenzy. However, America is stronger then that. And, Bush won't get away with cancelling this election. The fix of 2000 won't work this time. Bye bye McCain and the Bush economy. We have had enough.

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Posted by: popasmoke | October 9, 2008 6:50 PM | Report abuse

Re:
"The Solution to the Economic Crisis is NOT to place a former cocaine user in charge of thw World's Largest Economy."

Um, such as President Bush? I want to agree with you, but some mistakes 20+ years ago don't say much about a person's ability to govern. 20+ years ago, Bush and Mr. Palin were getting DUIs, too.

Posted by: brian_away | October 9, 2008 6:50 PM | Report abuse

Tom22, your implied theory that progress for poor illiterate whites like yourself depends on the continued impoverishment of minorities reflects a lack of imagination and a contemptibly mean spirit.

The nation is preparing to leave you behind. Stand by.

Posted by: officermancuso | October 9, 2008 6:50 PM | Report abuse

November 4 - America Votes - Obama Wins.
January 21 - America starts to rebuild - First order of business: "Take out" the TRASH.

Posted by: Tomcat3 | October 9, 2008 6:49 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: 37thandOStreet | October 9, 2008 6:49 PM | Report abuse

Its hillarious the right wing kooks who plaster lies and misleading statements. They must believe that somehow their schizophrenic vision of America will somehow move the masses to vote for McCain. Its not going to work, and in fact it makes more people repulsed by the guy.

Posted by: paulnolan97 | October 9, 2008 6:49 PM | Report abuse

They loved to burn people for the color of their skin in the good old days, why so much noise when the kkk runs a TV ad? In a certain sense, it's comforting, they are always on the wrong side of history.

It will be interesting to discover the true faces of those right-wing opinionists on Fox and on the radios.

Posted by: stearm | October 9, 2008 6:49 PM | Report abuse


too bad the right turns thuggish when their reasons fail, though it's pretty predictable.

McCain's promises of a commitment to clean energy and energy self-sufficiency are not credible. Nothing demonstrates McCain's commitment to an oil based foreign policy more than his support for the war. Though his selection of Palin is also quite relevant:
at the convention palin said she 'stood up to oil interests'
followed by
"My sister Heather and her husband have just built a service station that's now opened for business"--her husband is in the industry, and consider her quote, "God's will has to be done in unifying people and companies to get that gas line built"
I don't think ya can stand up to the oil industry while announcing that the furtherance of their agenda is god's will.

Posted by: e9999999 | October 9, 2008 6:48 PM | Report abuse

I think it is fair game then to analyze Palin's envolvement with the extreme group, Alaska Independence Party, that supported Timothy McVeigh and the Oklahoma City bombing. Among other things, they call for the complete destruction of government. She has been a keynote speaker for their conference just about every year. Where is the press on this? McCain also has a dubious past with the Keating 5.

Let's just play fair. We knew the Republican's would stretch the truth when it started looking desperate and whip out this elections' version of the Swiftboat. But the press should be investigating the scandals associated with McCain and especially Palin.

Posted by: 3tyrees | October 9, 2008 6:48 PM | Report abuse


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Posted by: 37thandOStreet | October 9, 2008 6:48 PM | Report abuse

The republican conspiracy theorists are out full force on this comment string with their seeded comments. Why do you have so much hatred for this man? What has he ever done to you that makes you this angry? Has your life really improved over the last 8 years? Has this country improved? What makes you think that keeping the same party in power is going to improve conditions?

You need to stop spewing the hatred -- not racism -- just hatred and realize that this isn't Barack wins you lose. It's we win together and lose together. Let go of the suffering his candidacy is causing you and focus on improving your lives and the lives of your family members. That won't happen with the same party in power -- it just won't. It's time for change, not because the change candidate is perfect, but because he can't be any worse than the last 8 years. Open your mind to just give it a real chance and see what happens. If your life, our economy, our country continues on a downward trajectory then run him out of town, spew your hatred, banish him forever, but to do so in the midst of one of the worst economic crises ever created by laissez faire regulations of Republican controlled government and two wars perpetrated by that same government, seems awfully stubborn and selfish.

Posted by: AmirA2 | October 9, 2008 6:48 PM | Report abuse

McCain is making his candidacy an extreme right wing candidacy. In a defacto sense he is making the GOP an equivalent of the American Nazi party.

Posted by: paulnolan97 | October 9, 2008 6:47 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Tom22 | October 9, 2008 6:46 PM | Report abuse

Yo king_of_zouk, if you want to talk about lying politicians, in 2008, lying politicians begin and ends with George Walker Bush lying to the American public about WMDs in Iraq leading us into a war that has cost over 4000 American lives and close to $750 Billion.

When you can find a Clinton or Obama lie with a greater impact on modern America than George Bush's lie, throw it out there.

Posted by: flyfishchef | October 9, 2008 6:46 PM | Report abuse

The old man and his igloo honey have nothing left but the race card. How sick, and sicker it will get. Palin already brings out the mob, screaming for blood by the time she is done with them. Rallies for rubes, fools, and various misfits, rivited up to a frenzy on lies and half truths. Reminds you of the old Nurenberg rallies on the History Channel. Palin is leading the old mans brown shirts and whipping them up to a frenzy. However, America is stronger then that. And, Bush won't get away with cancelling this election. The fix of 2000 won't work this time. Bye bye McCain and the Bush economy. We have had enough.

Posted by: sofla | October 9, 2008 6:45 PM | Report abuse


Chicago kids sure are lucky to have Obama and Ayers helping them with over 100 million dollars in grants in addition to the billions in taxes.

Now all the kids have to worry about is getting murdered before they drop out of a corrupt failing school system.

Posted by: Rezko2Raines | October 9, 2008 6:45 PM | Report abuse


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Posted by: 37thandOStreet | October 9, 2008 6:45 PM | Report abuse

I used to like and respect McCain but this campaign and his desire to be president is disgusting. If he were my candidate I'd be absolutely embarrassed. An Ayers linkage is laughable in light of what Bush and his people have done. Even more discouraging are the hateful people posting fundamentalist zeal for the tactics. God save us from them.

Posted by: ehque | October 9, 2008 6:44 PM | Report abuse

At McCain and Palins bidding the racist hate is starting to seep through the cracks. They are inciting a mob mentality into people.

Even good people can get caught up in the rioting which is unfortunate.

Thankfully the Obama's have proven time and again that they are moral, good people who keep their focus and continue to try to bring people together from all sides.

These are the people we need leading this country. They inspire us and make us believe again.

I personally like that a great deal.

Posted by: dave40 | October 9, 2008 6:44 PM | Report abuse

I repeat:

Bush is going back to Texas for good in a few days.

Cheney is our next President.

In November it is Cheney versus Obama.

I will bet all the shares of Lehman Brothers I have!

Posted by: luispanagi | October 9, 2008 6:44 PM | Report abuse

Americans judge people on their conduct not their associations. In aristocracies, people are elevated or devalued based on association and status. McCain is not putting America first when he campaigns against Obama based on an association rather than what Obama has said and done in office.

Posted by: paulnolan97 | October 9, 2008 6:44 PM | Report abuse

king_of-zouk:

"Once this sticks, I am looking forward to the next round of silly justifications the Libs will have to concoct."

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Uh, huh. And how's that search for WMD in Iraq going. My financial planner wants to know.

Posted by: maxfli68 | October 9, 2008 6:42 PM | Report abuse

McCain's moral cowardice has been one of the subtexts of this campaign ever since he wound up the nomination and turned his attention to Barack Obama. But I did not realize it would reveal itself in such a physical dimension and that McCain would be so desperate as to act like it really means anything (it doesn't and McCain knows it).


The tell came this week as McCain unearthed the Ayers story which, for whatever its merits, was fully aired months ago and has no clear relation to the particulars of October other than McCain's collapsing poll numbers. He's on it. Palin's on it. He's releasing slashing new TV ads like this one. Both of them are ginning their crowds up into spiraling gyres of right-wing delirium -- a ready-made Lord of the Flies (and let's admit that's a gentle allusion, given the tone of these barnburners) if Obama happened into one of the auditoriums at the wrong moment.


McCain even swaggered on for a couple days about how he was going to 'take the gloves off' when he met up with Obama in Nashville. But when the two of them were there in each others physical presence ... nothing. By a myriad of gestures and reactions Obama owned him.


Nor is it a matter of shifting off the tactics, because as soon as McCain made his hasty retreat from the stage at Debate #2 he was right back at it. In every other aspect of life, high and low, refined and unlovely, we have a word for that kind of behavior: cowardice.


And now Obama can taunt McCain with that very cowardice, his inability to just say it to his face. And if my take on the inner workings of McCain's mind at the moment is right that should simply unhinge him even more.

Posted by: DrainYou | October 9, 2008 6:42 PM | Report abuse


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Posted by: 37thandOStreet | October 9, 2008 6:42 PM | Report abuse

At 4:25 PM, in the "Rothenberg Warns of GOP Bloodbath" thread, Toritto wrote:

"We have been hearing since Reagan that 'Government is the problem'; that government should get 'out of the way'; that the private sector can always do it better and cheaper.

"If one has this philosophy then it is natural to undermine government; to get it 'out of the way'. Conservatives since Reagan have systematically undermined the efficacy of the government by gutting any agency which it views as 'standing in the way'.

"You appoint 'your guys' no matter how incompetent; you oust the professionals; you gut their budgets. You oppose anything which might 'impede' the private sector corporations - consumer protections; food inspections; road and bridge inspection; financial regulations.

"You politicize the Justice Department, so that it finds nothing, even torture, objectionable. Anti-trust enforcement becomes non-existent.

"You never lift a voice or use the bully pulpit against corporations shipping jobs wholesale overseas. Our retailers buy their inventory from China and you ship them our money, never insisting that China adjust its foreign exchange rate. Then you borrow the money back from China to plug our budget deficit, caused by corporate tax cuts and cuts for the top 1% of Americans. You ship the borrowed money to our oil suppliers and oppose any effort to reduce dependency by seeking alternative renewable sources of fuel. After all, you're an oil man.

"You start an unnecessary war costing hundreds of billions of dollars much of it going to favored construction companies doing work shoddy enough to electrocute ten soldiers in their showers. Hired thugs masquerading as 'security details' rake in more of the money, answering to no one. You 'rebuild' Iraq (which we never had to destroy anyway) while the Iraqis have almost $80 billion in the bank.

"You shred the Constitution, abridge habeas corpus. You get elected by selling your 'values' while robbing the country blind. You never talk about economics. You always scare the voters with the next bogeyman around the corner. When the media disagrees with you, you attack it as 'unfair' with 'liberal bias'. You start your own propaganda media outlets that parrot the party line.

"You take the country into a permanent state of war with a volunteer army - a state so permanent no one even notices it anymore as they go to the mall. You ask nothing from them but their acquiescence. 'Just go shopping folks!'

"You want to spend a trillion dollars to rescue the financial sector, run up a half a trillion dollar budget deficit and still spew nonsense about 'small government, deregulation and lower taxes'.

"We are witnessing the impoverishment of America. ....and this Grand Old Party (remember it?) wants four more years."

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That, "my friends", was a great post.

Posted by: officermancuso | October 9, 2008 6:42 PM | Report abuse

Us Obama supporters want to greatly increase Affirmative Action, increase minority enrollment in Colleges, and increase Financial Aid for Minority Students.

All the Republicans want to do is complain about Ayres!

BTW, Obama looked way more stylish than McCain.

Posted by: Tom22 | October 9, 2008 6:42 PM | Report abuse


Obama the genius constitutional scholar says health care is a right! That's news to the framers of the US Constitution, but don't let that get in the way of a determined Marxist.

What next driver's license (even Hillary wised up) AND health care for any illegal who sneaks in America? What a bankrupt idea from a bankrupt empty suit politician.

Posted by: Rezko2Raines | October 9, 2008 6:42 PM | Report abuse

"John McCain, for at least he is not a "liar"

I would wager the good Senator McCain lied repeatedly to first wife and his children by her when she'd ask him where he'd been - out having sex with Cindy - instead of coming home to take care of the loyal woman who'd stood by him while he was in Hanoi who he dumped for the young, sexy rich chick - after lying to Cindy about his age as they both freely admit.

McCain is a liar and hypocrite and despicable for cheating on his handicapped wife after all she'd done for him.

Remember what you Pubblies used to say about Clinton, "if he cheats on his wife he'll cheat on the country". I challenge you all to hold John McCain to the same standard. What's good for one is good for all.

Posted by: flyfishchef | October 9, 2008 6:41 PM | Report abuse

Obama is more well adjusted than McCain. Obama shows himself to be a reasoned individual. Ayers was the educator of the year in Chicago a number of years back. We judge people in America on who they are now, not by labels that are disconnected with action. This kind of ad makes the GOP appear more like Nazis or terrorists than Ayers.

Posted by: paulnolan97 | October 9, 2008 6:40 PM | Report abuse

Fellow Prisoners and the Holy Ghost. Hear This, Hear This, Hear This! Republicans spend ten billion a month to slaughter innocent Iraqis to steal their oil for five years. They're not paying it. They don't have the money to steal oil to begin with. Hear This. Hear This Redneck. Your Oil Gangbang is over, over, over. NO MO. No mo ten billion a month to kill Iraqis for Jesus, no mo. Your Republican Big Oil Gangbang and Abramoff fraud are over, over and done, not unlike toast. Mr. Magoo is 72 and a racist pig!

Posted by: rhyer | October 9, 2008 6:39 PM | Report abuse

You can't Blame McCain for this stuff.

Rove calls the shots.

McCain was for "suspending his campaign" until the economy stabilizes, but he was out-voted 1 - 0.

Posted by: LeftwithNochoice | October 9, 2008 6:38 PM | Report abuse


Palin is right in her element. The "N" word rolls off her lips with easy according to people in Alaska. Someone should ask her what a "Arctic arab" one of here favorites. She is a bigot.

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Actually, this Ayers stuff is dangerous and the McCain campaign is fully aware of it. Tonight, spend a few minutes on the internet and look at a vidio of a Palin rally where she throws this stuff at the mob. You will hear calls - "kill him", "shoot the n*gger", etc. What is going on is an appeal to the unstable to quite literally assassinate Mr. Obama. Oh, thye may believe that the nutjob the gin up will get caught before the deed, with the idea of this, the uncertainty, put Obama on edge, makes him look over his shoulder and wonder of one of the nut cases that the McCain campaign has driven to a frenzy is "out there". I know this. You know this. Even the Republican operatives here know this. But this so far beyond any ast negative campaign, so irreponsible and dangerous, that I think of McCain and Palin as criminals. Literally! Literally race baiters, KKK cheerleaders, Nazi thugs, criminals inciting violence, that we stop. At the end of the day, it's for us to point out their intent and for the media to pick up on it and write about it until people understand the depths to which McCain and Palin and their handlers have sunk.

Posted by: mibrooks27 | October 9, 2008 6:32 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: popasmoke | October 9, 2008 6:38 PM | Report abuse

At this point does anyone really want to guess how low McCain/Palin slime machine can go. It's like the "Ghostbusters" ad: "Call us. We're ready to believe you." BTW, for anyone not hooked up to a Fox News drip, the DOW dropped over 600 points today.

Posted by: maxfli68 | October 9, 2008 6:38 PM | Report abuse

"I beg to differ, not only because I think it is pertinent, but also because I love to see a dishonest Lib caught in a lie with no place to run."

We know that you think it's pertinent - even when it's bogus, it's pertinent. The only people who find it pertinent are the wing nuts, the same ones who find the October-Surprise-Whitey tape, the fake birth certificate, the elementary school education in a terrorist madrassa, etc. pertinent.

That McShame hasn't a clue what to do as president and Palin is ill-qualifed, however, is not pertinent. Unless McShame were running against Newt Gingrich or David Duke - then what is glossed over would be pertinent to the Zouks of this world.

Posted by: bondjedi | October 9, 2008 6:38 PM | Report abuse

RE Afghanistan, fortunately, our military's officer corps is more interested in finding the truth about the inevitable accidents of war than their Republican "supporters" are.

I reckon this is due, in part, to the fact that military officers who aren't grandsons of admirals have a much higher standard of decency than grandsons of admirals who become career politicians after failed military careers. And partly its due to the fact that US Army officers in Afghanistan have to live among Afghan civilians, unlike US politicians.

I suspect that if we could peek at the votes of career officers in the US military come November, some might be surprised at the number of Democratic votes, and the number who declined to vote for president because they found the Republican candidate insufferable.

Posted by: officermancuso | October 9, 2008 6:37 PM | Report abuse

To fly66: The bulk of the negative items about Obama are listed on Urban Legends as false - http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/money.asp
I received this material in two emails today. One who sent the material sent a second email and said to forget it because she had checked UL and it was false. I guess when things are really ugly, we might do better if we would check things out before passing them on.

Posted by: hawk423 | October 9, 2008 6:37 PM | Report abuse

Once this sticks, I am looking forward to the next round of silly justifications the Libs will have to concoct.

Just as the blue dress was the stake in the heart of clinton's lies, there will be some tell-tale evidence that emerges about Ayers and the rest of the amerika haters.

Last time they fell back on "well, perhaps he did lie but it was just about sex" which all the idiot liberals gobbled up in their desperation.

the attempt this time was first to claim it happened when the messiah was 8, but that was just to silly to even last one day.

Now it seems that Ayers probably ghost wrote Obama's book. Darn , his sole accomplishment wasn't even his. now we see why he chose biden, those plaigerists need to stick together when calling others' ideas their own.

so late next week, when this story finally plays out and the polls have gone the other way and it is declared that Yes indeed, Ayers was not just some guy from the neighborhood, what will the spin be?

you could try - "christians forgive"

Except there is that repent thing standing in the way.

better stick with "It's just a distraction" and YELL really loud when everyone laughs at junior about it.

you angry Libs are good at chanting and yelling. try to make sense just this once.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | October 9, 2008 6:37 PM | Report abuse

"The Annenberg Challenge took 6 years of Obama's time"

No it didn't. Get a grip. He was on the board for six years, but that doesn't mean it took 6 years of his time. He attended a few meetings - they had monthly meetings for six months, then quarterly. So he was one of EIGHT directors (note: Ayers wasn't a director) who attended a meeting four times a year.

I bet you don't even know what the director of a project like this actually does do you? Hint: it's not a full-time job. Not even close.

Posted by: aengil | October 9, 2008 6:37 PM | Report abuse


Hillary Clinton said it best, Obama lied about his associations and his past and thus cannot be trusted to be even a dog catcher in Washington DC.

Obama IS qualified to be a sewer inspector (as his political godfather Emil Jones was) in Chicago...

Posted by: Rezko2Raines | October 9, 2008 6:36 PM | Report abuse

Well since there seems to be so much emphasis on peoples associations lets look at Caribou Barbies thoughts on religion:

First came reports that her pastor at the nondenominational Wasilla Bible Church was connected to Jews for Jesus, an organization that seeks to convert Jews to Christianity. Prominent Jewish leaders, including the co-chair of McCain's Jewish outreach effort, have since demanded to know whether Palin also believes that Jews must be converted. The Bible Church became an issue again when Katie Couric asked Palin about the church's promotion of a program to help gays "overcome" their homosexuality.

And finally, a videotape surfaced of a 2005 service at the Wasilla Assembly of God Church, the Pentecostal church that Palin attended for most of her life. In the scene captured on video, Palin stands at the front of the sanctuary while a visiting African pastor prays that God will help her gubernatorial campaign and protect her "from every form of witchcraft." Later in the same service, the pastor complains that "Israelites" held too many prominent positions in business, a comment that has further alienated Jewish voters.

And in her interview with Couric, Palin was, if not ashamed, purposefully vague about her churchgoing habits. "I don't have a church, I'm not a member of any church," she said. "I get to visit a couple of churches in Alaska when I'm home, including one, Wasilla Bible Church."

The fact is that Palin's most consistent religious home has been the Pentecostal church of her youth. Though her family left the Wasilla Assembly of God in 2002, just before she launched her campaign for lieutenant governor, Palin has continued to return. The now famous prayer to protect her from witchcraft took place during a visit in 2005, three years after Palin's official departure. She returned again as recently as June 2008, making reference to that earlier service and crediting the African pastor's prayer with leading her to gubernatorial victory.

That is from Time magazine. http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1848420,00.html

So let me ask you GOP supporters a question, was Obama helpin Ayers in the 60's? Didnt think so, but yet Bush has been friends with the Bin Ladens for decades. Which would you rather be seen with?

Posted by: rharring | October 9, 2008 6:36 PM | Report abuse

drink-up naive right-wing american, before your republican kool-aid gets stale...oh wait that happened after your lipstick began to smear.

Posted by: garconlatin | October 9, 2008 6:35 PM | Report abuse

I'm not an expert, but I suspect these tactics by the RNC and McCain will reinforce his base voters and perhaps persuade some suburban middle class McCain supporters to abandon McCain. It's as if he is Nero fiddling while the stock market declines, and then scapegoating others.

Sadly though, these smear and scare tactics may frighten some people into voting for the white guy with the American name, even though they were open to Obama.

The biggest impact I think will be to stoke the fires with the O'Reilly and Hannity followers of the country, and they are already in McCain's camp.

Posted by: bfjam | October 9, 2008 6:34 PM | Report abuse

Vote for Obama!

Obama First Term:
Greatly expand 1965 Hart-Celler Immigration Act
Increase the number of foreign students in U.S. universities
Citizenship for Undocumented Workers
Greatly expand the number of H-1B Visas
Greatly expand Affirmative Action
Increased funding of financial aid to Minority Students

Obama Second Term:
Increase taxes on those earning more than $250,000
Increase the Capital Gains tax
Greatly expand Minority Leadership positions in Law Enforcement

Posted by: Tom22 | October 9, 2008 6:34 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: 37thandOStreet | October 9, 2008 6:33 PM | Report abuse

Obama was 4 years old when Ayers was in the Weather Underground. What we see now is an attempt by a used up, desperate old man to gain some traction in an election he is doomed to loose. Doomed because he tried to privatize social security and helped deregulate the financial markets that have cost Americans' trillions. Doomed because Americans see he only cares about the rich and more wars. Goodbye old man, your time is just about at hand.

Posted by: sofla | October 9, 2008 6:32 PM | Report abuse

Vote for McCain, My Fellow Prisoners!

We'll get half a cup of rice water a day, We'll communicate by tapping on the bars, and we'll hire a bunch of smart people to figure out what to do with all our tax money

(which will probably be 'pocket it' as it has been their suggestion in the past)

Bomb Iran!

Bomb the Kurds!

Bomb the Turks!

Attack Russia!

Bomb China!

Get Hair Transplants!

And Say NO to Tom Brokaw as Treasury Secretary

McSame/IdiotChick 08

God Bless this pasty White Nation, Fellow Prisoners...

Love, The Maverick!

(Rove said it was OK to include that part :)

Posted by: LeftwithNochoice | October 9, 2008 6:32 PM | Report abuse

Actually, this Ayers stuff is dangerous and the McCain campaign is fully aware of it. Tonight, spend a few minutes on the internet and look at a vidio of a Palin rally where she throws this stuff at the mob. You will hear calls - "kill him", "shoot the n*gger", etc. What is going on is an appeal to the unstable to quite literally assassinate Mr. Obama. Oh, thye may believe that the nutjob the gin up will get caught before the deed, with the idea of this, the uncertainty, put Obama on edge, makes him look over his shoulder and wonder of one of the nut cases that the McCain campaign has driven to a frenzy is "out there". I know this. You know this. Even the Republican operatives here know this. But this so far beyond any ast negative campaign, so irreponsible and dangerous, that I think of McCain and Palin as criminals. Literally! Literally race baiters, KKK cheerleaders, Nazi thugs, criminals inciting violence, that we stop. At the end of the day, it's for us to point out their intent and for the media to pick up on it and write about it until people understand the depths to which McCain and Palin and their handlers have sunk.

Posted by: mibrooks27 | October 9, 2008 6:32 PM | Report abuse


The media have been claiming that Sarah Palin can see Russia from her backyard...

Obama can truthfully boast that from his backyard, he can see the property that his close friend and convicted felon Tony Rezko purchased.

Just one of the crooks, terrorists, hateful preachers in Obama's neighborhood.

Posted by: Rezko2Raines | October 9, 2008 6:31 PM | Report abuse

Hey Nsubuga1, keep spouting the RNC lies about Fannie and Freddie causing the subprime crisis and the financial meltdown.

I wish I could spin such a complex issue into a 30 second sound byte for Limbaugh/Hannity simpletons but, unfortunately, like many things in life, it's not a quick talking point.

Do some research on Credit Default Swaps and the Commodities Futures Modernization Act before blaming Freddie and Fannie.

I'll ask one simple question to the Republican apologists and blame shifters out there: If Credit Default Swaps are such a wonderful financial instrument and not dangerous to the financial system, why did Phil Gramm, R-TX, sneak a 292 page Enron-written rider expressly banning the regulation and oversight of CDSs onto a 11,000 page appropriations bill late in the last afternoon before the Congressional Christmas break?

And if you think CDSs aren't the primary reason the financial markets have melted down, then you don't understand modern global finance. Just ask yourself this, if Fannie and Freddie are really the culprits, why did the government of Iceland just nationalize their failing banks. Fannie and Freddie don't have operations in Iceland.

One final nail in the Fannie/Freddie "forced banks to loan" coffin. Fannie/Freddie can't force banks to do anything aside from comply with their underwriting standards. That's another RNC/Limbaugh/Hannity LIE. Only regulatory agencies, which Fannie/Freddie are not, can FORCE banks to do anything, especially loan money. GREED "forced" banks to loan money, nothing else. The banks then laid-off the risks of those risky sub-prime loans through Credit Default Swaps and other Collateralized Debt Obligation derivatives that good old Dr. Phil made sure the government couldn't regulate or monitor.

The only story about Weapons of Mass Destruction that has come true under Bush is Warren Buffett's prediction that CDSs would be financial WMDs and he was absolutely correct on that point.

The Dow is now down to its lowest level in 5 years. Whoops!!! Thanks Phil.

Posted by: flyfishchef | October 9, 2008 6:31 PM | Report abuse

Who says the republicans haven't moved into the modern world? With Dukakis and the willie horton crap, they were using a black guy to slam a white guy.

Today, they're using a white guy to slam a black guy.

Way to go republicans, any kind of racism will do I suppose.

Posted by: khote14 | October 9, 2008 6:31 PM | Report abuse

Fine, then lets see the association Palin has with Alaskan Indpendence Party, whose leader was a "terrorist" who refused to be buried in the USA because he hated it to much. Said things about how horrible the United States is and then she addresses their meeting by telling them what a good job they are doing.


Fine, then lets see the video detailing McCains role in the Keating 5 scandals that bankrupted alot of people in my town and resulted in two suicides in my small town.

Fine, then lets see the information come out about McCains role in the Council for World Freedom ( a very racist organization) and their role in the Iran Contra scandals, this group being the front for the secret activities of the Reagan administration which resulted in the fall of Oliver North, a good friend of McCain.

And last of all, lets play the tapes of McCain saying he would never resort to this type of campaigning - which now makes him a LIAR.

And last of all, lets be sure to understand that McCain picked and is exploiting Sara Palin by ruining her future in politics by making her the attack dog in all this and watch the republican party drop her like the toxic acid that she willing is after he loses (much like they did to Katherine Harris in Florida).

Posted by: lndlouis | October 9, 2008 6:31 PM | Report abuse

"saying we bomb civilians and kill babies is encouraging"

Read the headlines, sweetie. You cannot deny that it happens.

Anyway, it was a matter of left wingers in the 1960s and 1970s, apparently, spitting on returning troops that is at issue.

That claim is just one in a series of rightwing myths that accompany nutjobs' claims about "losing" Vietnam.

Once the rightwing starts lying, it just can't stop.

Posted by: castanea | October 9, 2008 6:31 PM | Report abuse

Ltk01 wrote, "If Barrak Hussein Obama, a.k.a., BO, ...."

Well now there's an intelligent reason to vote against Obama - his initials are the same as for "body odor".

The funny thing about these hard-shell Republican base wing-nuts is that they don't realize how they come across, without Karl Rove standing on their shoulder like a guardian angel.

Posted by: officermancuso | October 9, 2008 6:31 PM | Report abuse

ltk01,

If you dont think McCain has lied, i have some ocean front property i would love to sell you in Kansas. I have news for you ALL politicians lie..........

Posted by: rharring | October 9, 2008 6:30 PM | Report abuse

No wonder I had the most troubling times trying to figure out why McCain's actions seemed to be against the people. He had a relationship with Charles Keating and was in Keating's corner in actions against the people, and he worked closely with Phil Gramm. People suffered due to Keating's actions, and they suffered thanks to Phil Gramm. Both believe in deregulation, and by golly McCain who was DIRECTLY involved with the two, well by golly he was talking all about deregulation as recent as his Republican campaign. And THEN when the stuff hit the fan, he wanted to "suspend" his campaign to show us (The United States of America) well just how serious he is in attending the problem. Obama wasn't going to put on a face for us; he got attacked by the opposition ticket for telling us how it is with McCain's obvious political stunt.

By golly, give me Obama and Biden who actually have a clue moreso than McCain does in terms of his stances, his policies, and knowledge. Give me the competent ticket. I don't want the Bush ticket, the ticket that plays face for America. No wonder McCain had his idea, as Phil Gramm said we're in a mental recession and that we've become a nation of whiners (and then we witness the financial crisis, let alone increasing price of groceries, you name the problem right before our eyes), that our economy is fundamentally strong. By golly, no wonder McCain.

No Way, No How, No McCain/Palin; don't get me talking on Palin. How about it McCain? How about it on the issues eh? Enlighten me. Really.

So much for character and sound judgment (by some posters' standards).

Posted by: Obama2008 | October 9, 2008 6:30 PM | Report abuse

If this is the level of discourse we have in the United States, then I hope you all get what you deserve.

Posted by: steve1231 | October 9, 2008 6:30 PM | Report abuse

Real Brothers here.

Ayers has NOT been convicted of anything and he like the Racist American Govt. has reformed (or it will be reformed when Obama gets in and gets the Racists,White Supremacists and Black man hating lesbians out).

It does smack of desperation on the part McCain's campaign. Nobody thinks that anyone is DUMB enough to change their vote or allow this nonsense to convince them that what these Idiots are saying about Obama is true.

Its simply showing how lame McCain is and how fast he has sunk and how brilliant Obama is.

Like Obama said: He can withstand four more weeks of attacks by John McCain but America can't stand four more years of Bush/McCain economic policy.

TKCAL

Posted by: Realbrother0003 | October 9, 2008 6:29 PM | Report abuse

Further to earlier post, the so-called "details" of Obama's relationship with Ayers have been flsuhed out by a variety of news orgainations. Nothing there. Are you suggesting that these phantom "details" may reveal that Obama is a closet terrorist. Are you sane? Just feeding the beast, right? Neutrality, right? What happened to the notion of the pursuit of the truth. Perhaps you should try it sometime Godzilla, or whatever you silly little moniker is.

Posted by: agitate | October 9, 2008 6:29 PM | Report abuse

After having watched the last three debates and Michelle Obama on Larry King live I am convinced. They are class-act people and both inspire and bring people together.

These are honorable people. Of that I have no doubt.

The Ayers thing is a last ditch effort I understand. I personally am not swayed. Ayers is a reformed activist who has served his country in the education sector and has been embraced and works with many high level political people in this country. Not just Obama.

Ayers was a punk kid who thought militancy was the answer. He paid his due and he contributes positively to society.

To try to compare who he is now to secret islamic militant terrorist is laughable at best. To think he has any influence over Obama is hilarious.

Posted by: dave40 | October 9, 2008 6:28 PM | Report abuse

Obama in 2008!
Vote for Obama!

But, I don't think he'll be able to accomplish everything all at once.

Obama First Term:
Increase the number of foreign students in U.S. universities
Increase job opportunities and tuition aid to foreign students
Citizenship for Undocumented Workers
Greatly expand 1965 Hart-Celler Immigration Act
Greatly expand the number of H-1B Visas
Greatly expand Affirmative Action
Increase the dollar amount of loans to minority owned businesses
Increased funding of financial aid to Minority Students
Increased funding of Pell Grants to Minority Student
Appoint an African American woman to the Supreme Court

Obama Second Term:
Increase taxes on those earning more than $250,000
Greatly expand Minority Leadership positions in Law Enforcement
Greatly expand Minority Leadership in Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines
Increase the Capital Gains tax
Redistribution of Property in suburbs to minority communities
Create programs across the U.S. to recognize and end White Privilege

Vote Obama in 2008
Vote Obama in 2008
Vote Obama in 2008
Vote Obama in 2008

Posted by: Tom22 | October 9, 2008 6:27 PM | Report abuse

I heard Keating and McCain got married. At least Keating wanted their affair to be "til death do us part." The evil MSM Washington Times have the actual love note.

Posted by: Alsatian1 | October 9, 2008 6:27 PM | Report abuse

Mudslinging is the last refuge of the truly hapless, helpless and hopeless. It is a tactic favored by scoundrels and weasels. Sadly, it also invites retaliation in kind and any such retaliation will invariably be unkind. To wit:
• McCain's entry into political life as a member of The Keating Five;
• his marital infidelity and spousal abandonment in favor of a younger, uncrippled, decidedly richer heiress;
• Cindy's father's business association (and the founding of the McCain fortune) with a Mafia-linked business partner;
• Cindy's drug addiction and drug conviction resulting in the court-ordered dismantling of a medical charity misused as a front for phony, illegal prescriptions;
• McCain's health issues and four bouts with melanoma (was it stage 2A or 3B?);
• increasingly bizarre and erratic behavior by a septuagenarian candidate (incipient Alzheimer’s or merely senior moments?);
• medical cover-up?;
• tax issues w/ Palin failure to report per diem income;
• Palin Trooper-gate issue;
• Palin "witchcraft" prayer protection service at Wasilla Assembly of God;
• Palin children's behavior in general (lots of allegations and rumors, none of which should be anybody's d**n business);
• Palin’s taking a per diem and charging the taxpayers of Alaska for every night spent in her own home, as if it were a Motel 6;
• Palin's book banning/burning activities as mayor;
• Palin's intellectual fitness to serve and be a sick, 72 year old heartbeat removed from the presidency.
• etc., etc., etcetera.
It's ugly folks anyway you look at it! It's always wrong and NEVER appropriate. It's tawdry, unseemly, unwarranted and unwonted in the political process. It besmirches the target and the mudslinger himself/herself. And... it cuts both ways. Both parties CAN do it. Up and until now only one has been so desperate as to stoop to it. Let us not open this can of worms lest we soon find them crawling all over us!

Posted by: kmarin | October 9, 2008 6:27 PM | Report abuse

"And why would the left wing want to insult the troops?"

so calling our troops murderers is not slander - Murtha

Saying the war is already lost is constructive - Reid

saying we bomb civilians and kill babies is encouraging - Obama

Saying we are concentration camp administraotrs - Kennedy

and the list is endless - Durbin, rockefeller - the whole vile bunch.

how can an intelligent person not be aware of this history?

Oh, I answered my own question. I should not have included intelligent when referring to Liberals.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | October 9, 2008 6:26 PM | Report abuse

It's a little silly to even worry about what Ayers did 40 years ago- he has a current track record to look at. For example, appearing with Hugo Chavez and commending him on his 'reforms', then leading a revolutionary cheer in Spanish from the podium. This happened in 2006. But that's Ayers- there's no dispute that he considers himself a 'little c communist' to this day; he has said so on record as recently as 2005. More to the point, what did he and Obama accomplish while working together? No doubt all of us rub elbows with people who have something questionable in their pasts.

The Annenberg Challenge took 6 years of Obama's time, yet is not mentioned in the two books this 47 year old lawyer wrote about himself. He was the chairman of a $100M foundation for 4 years, and on the board for 2 more; I'd call that executive experience, which he is constantly accused of not having. Why doesn't he claim it? A guy who writes about himself and wants to be President?

The Challenge originated as a multi-city challenge to educators to reform inner-city schools with the goal of promoting scholarship at the primary and secondary levels with needed reforms. Ayers' team applied for the Chicago grant along with at least two competing teams, and his team won. They then formed a steering committee, led by Ayers, and assembled the board. Obama, a little-known attorney, was chosen as chair- why? Evidence is scant, but he likely was in accord with the steering committee on major issues. If Ayers and Obama were in accord on what to do with the $100M windfall, let's see what that is.

Obama sat as chair for 4 years at the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, working hand-in-hand with Ayers for the first of these. Obama, Ayers, and a majority of the board systematically rejected every substantive academic submission in favor of fringe activist proposals. The academic results were later gathered by the Challenge and published, and they were nada, as in no academic improvement whatsoever. After 6 years and $100M, this doesn't seem possible, but the answer is very simple: when you spend $100M on fringe groups bent on 'social justice', the subsequent radicalization of Chicago's youth is not measurable on achievement tests. Perhaps Ayers and Obama were very successful as they perverted the Challenge.

Then, there is ACORN, which is being investigated by the FBI in several states, especially battlegrounds, for massive, blatatant voter fraud. Obama worked for them, and his campaign paid them $800,000 which the campaign tried to hide. The Chicago Annenberg Challenge paid them, too, while Obama was on the board.

Finally, Obama was a member of the Socialist 'New Party', as well as the Democratic Socialist Party, two of Ayers and other radicals favorite organizations at the time.

Shouldn't the Post and the NYT be investigating these just a little? Planes run both ways from Alaska, you know.

Posted by: FlyDiesel | October 9, 2008 6:25 PM | Report abuse

This isn't about being Republican or Democratic.

What is it with these Republicans as of recent years lying and attempting to manipulate people, instead of giving us the straight talk on the facts? I mean away from guilt-by-association tactics, but on the issues instead.

Why aren't the RNC driving home McCains political stances in ways that he appears not to be (could it be that he can't?)???

Come on RNC, tell the nation why they should elect this Republican of all after these past some years, and McCain's policies, and overall his entire ticket? Tell us. You can do better than this.

I hope Obama puts the breaks on them and McCain. They should be telling us why this nation should trust McCain and Palin to deal with the issues that concerns us. Please enlighten me RNC.

Posted by: Obama2008 | October 9, 2008 6:25 PM | Report abuse

Wow - The Washington Post is a well oiled machine kicking *ss and taking names.

George F. Will asks McCain: "Is your campaign going to get any better?"

Chris Cillizza answers: "No."

Posted by: DonJasper | October 9, 2008 6:25 PM | Report abuse

Until the American voters make these losers pay by voting them out, we'll continue to see gutter politics.

What really bothers me is they know it's killing America...see the last 8 years...but they don't care. As long as they win, they don't care. Same mentality as AIG executives.

Posted by: amaikovich | October 9, 2008 6:25 PM | Report abuse

If Barrak Hussein Obama, a.k.a., BO, Obama, claims he didn't know of Ayer's(BO's mentor) criminal past, then BO is a "Bold-face Liar", or if BO knew, but thought nothing of it, then BO shows a great lack of "judgement"; we need the next President to be one that does not "Lie" and shows "Sound Judgement"...the Ayers matter shows Obama's character is lacking in both areas...I need, and must vote for, a President that does not "Lie", and is a not a "Liar"and shows sound judgment.Therefore,
I will be voting for John McCain, for at least he is not a "liar" and he shows good judgement.

Posted by: ltk01 | October 9, 2008 6:25 PM | Report abuse

Slam the Republican party come November. The party and the people stand for division, hatred, high-handedness and cynicism.

This election is a vote for moving the country to positive direction to face many challenges.

Throw out the window the Grand Old Pettiness that has gripped this nation.

Posted by: mouli_7982 | October 9, 2008 6:24 PM | Report abuse

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A great deal has been said of Obama as head of the Harvard Law Review - however the evidence is that he was voted into that position because the people thought it would be "cool" to have a black in there, not because he was more qualified than the other students.


Having said that, Obama NEVER wrote for the Harvard Law Review.


There is NOT ONE ARTICLE WRITTEN BY OBAMA IN THE HARVARD LAW REVIEW.


There is a pattern of Obama getting positions or jobs through affirmative action and then NOT doing those jobs.


1) First, he took a position in the class at Harvard Law School (from a white student) however Obama NEVER became a lawyer,


2) Obama became head of the Harvard Law Review, however Obama NEVER wrote a law review article.


3) Obama became a State Senator however Obama RARELY voted yes or not, voting present many many times - Emil Jones placed Obama's name on numerous bills which were Emil's work, and Obama took credit for Emil's work because someone decided that Obama was going to be pushed forward.


4) Obama was selected to be the Chairman of the SubCommittee to review NATO's role in Afghanistan however Obama NEVER held any hearings of this SubCommittee.


5) Obama was elected to the US Senator, however instead of doing his job as a Senator Obama went on a book tour and started a campaign for President - HOW MUCH TIME HAS HE REALLY SPENT ACTUALLY BEING A SENATOR ???

Sorry However NONE OF THIS IS IMPRESSIVE. In fact, it is rather sad.


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Posted by: 37thandOStreet | October 9, 2008 6:23 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, repost due to typo.

This is so stupid of the Republicans. I don't know anybody who is buying this as something worth talking about. We all know the details about everything about Ayers. It is all in Wikepedia. What about it?

I don't even have all the energy to post all the things that are wrong with this. Or, if Obama were to bother stooping to this level, all the "associations" the McCain and Palin have with terrorist antiabortion crazies who are still violent NOW and not 40 years ago, or how Palin and her husband supported a secessionist group who have overtly stated that they hate America.

What a bunch of hippocrite, propaganda loving bunch. False propaganda is the favorite vehicle of dictatorships and the most heinous types of regime in world history (Musolini, Hitler, the old Communist China, ect.), so I do not think it is a good thing for American so-called leaders like McCain to start adopting these types of "strategies."

Posted by: Liberty77 | October 9, 2008 6:23 PM | Report abuse

Conservative = unyeilding HATE.

Posted by: valskeet | October 9, 2008 6:23 PM | Report abuse


Obama admitted in almost a freudian slip admitted that "the ACORN doesn't fall far from the tree" and now we know with all the FBI raids in swing states that his friends and accomplices are registering thousands of fake/fraudulent voter applications.

A new federal investigation is being initiated in Obama's backyard of Chicago and it is clear that he and his associates will be serving...a long time in prison.

Posted by: Rezko2Raines | October 9, 2008 6:23 PM | Report abuse

so johnsonc2 I guess your solution is to put a former cocaine user in charge of the economy.


Are you completely out of your mind or is it only the left side of your brain?

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Posted by: 37thandOStreet | October 9, 2008 6:22 PM | Report abuse

McCain/Palin Playing The "Terrorist" Card Goes Beyond Mere Campaign Sleaze!!!


I'm not sure what it would take to convince Palin and McCain that insinuating another candidate for the presidency might somehow be a secret terrorist is a very, very bad idea. America has had plenty of experience with right-wing militia nuts and paranoid loners over the last few decades; it should be transparently obvious that sneeringly inciting crowds to such an extent is a dangerous game for Palin and McCain to be playing. Palin, especially, should be damn well aware of it, given her and her husband's past uncomfortable closeness to militia figures in Alaska.


To put it plainly, inciting right wing crowds to consider an American presidential candidate a "terrorist" isn't merely dirty politics or otherwise unseemly -- it comes uncomfortably close to implicitly encouraging actual violence. And that "uncomfortably close" part is putting the most charitable possible face on it.
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I'm sure there's no way we can make them stop, or even tone down their at this point intensely personalized, intensely spiteful rhetoric. They are immune to shame, or even common sense; this is the last desperate hour of the McCain campaign, and Palin was selected specifically because she could make these sorts of sleazy, least-common-denominator appeals to a far-right base that needs it, in order to feel good about voting for McCain.


But I think an adequate karmic retribution for Palin would be, if and when Obama is elected, for her to be made his personal assistant and be ankle-chained to him every time he leaves the White House -- so that whatever happens to Obama during his presidency happens to her as well. Maybe then she'd gain a shred of introspection into how much you should or shouldn't actively incite dumbarse, already paranoid, explicitly racist Republican crowds into thinking that an American president is an enemy of the state.
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Posted by: DrainYou | October 9, 2008 6:22 PM | Report abuse

Several of the five aircraft that spiraled out of Mr. McCain's control in the past were characterized as "flame outs". His current campaign seems to be following suit. As his numbers nose dive toward a crash and burn scenario he seems determined to plumb the depths of deceit and dishonor with an utter disregard for his legacy and place in history. Our certified war hero, happy warrior, "Mr. reach-across-the-aisle" darling of Democrat and Republican alike has vanished from view, and sadly will soon be lost to our memories as well. The tragedy unfolding before us is ugly and dismaying in the extreme. To wit: an irascible, mean-spirited, stumbling old goat wallowing in a cesspool of calumny, dishonor and shameless lies. When my trusted and beloved old hound stumbled onto a skunk when out on the trail, repeated bathing in tomato juice diminished the ordure and allowed him to be welcomed back into hearth and home. Sadly, it seems that so much stink will cling to the empty shell of a once great American when this is all over that no such happy rehabilitation will await him. While I cringe in the face of his despicable tactics my heart and prayers remain with him.

Posted by: kmarin | October 9, 2008 6:22 PM | Report abuse

In reference to Nsubuga1's post the Dems were probably some of the problem,thats for sure.But what about President Bush and his need to see,on his watch,as many Americans owning their own homes as possible?His own housing leaders told him straight out that they were worried about the number of houses being sold to people who weren't even showing proof of income.The president told them not to worry and actually asked them to work harder at it.There were stories about it in this paper,I am pretty sure and I think the LA Times also did a story.So I think the president and his administration deserve a lot of the blame.In fact a lot of different groups do,imo,not just one.

Posted by: mane1 | October 9, 2008 6:22 PM | Report abuse

"When McSame hurls these tired Ayers associations"

they may be tired for you, but it seems based on the reaction of the messiah, that he thinks the rest of the country doesn't need to hear about his pals.
I beg to differ, not only because I think it is pertinent, but also because I love to see a dishonest Lib caught in a lie with no place to run.
It reminds me of the days right before the blue dress came back from the lab. you got the pols trying to spin, the gullible base trying to lie and the lier caught in the crossfire.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | October 9, 2008 6:21 PM | Report abuse

This is so stupid of the Republicans. I don't know anybody who is buying this as something worth talking about. We all know the details about everything about Ayers. It is all in Wikepedia. What about it?

I don't even have all the energy to post all the things that are wrong with this. Or, if Obama were to bother stooping to this level, all the "associations" the Obama and Palin have with terrorist antiabortion crazies who are still violent NOW and not 40 years ago, or how Palin and her husband supported a secessionist group who have overtly stated that they hate America.

What a bunch of hippocrite, propaganda loving bunch. False propaganda is the favorite vehicle of dictatorships and the most heinous types of regime in world history (Musolini, Hitler, the old Communist China, ect.), so I do not think it is a good thing for American so-called leaders like McCain to start adopting these types of "strategies."

Posted by: Liberty77 | October 9, 2008 6:21 PM | Report abuse

The hussein parade of slimebag pals and bad judgment is endless....."

Posted by: ImpeachNOW | October 9, 2008 6:13 PM

Impeach WHO?

Posted by: flarrfan | October 9, 2008 6:21 PM | Report abuse

For years, the mainstream news media has refused to stop idolizing the so-called straight talking maverick John McCain long enough to question the mental health consequences of the years he spent as a "special" prisoner of the communists in North Vietnam.

McCain, the presumptive Republican candidate for President, who could one day have his finger on the "red button," claims the communists subjected him to 5 ½ years of nonstop indoctrination sessions so intense that he attempted suicide.

Unfortunately for McCain, after his bomber was hit by anti-aircraft fire near Hanoi on October 26, 1967, he parachuted into the hands of an evil communist enemy who 7 years earlier had adopted Soviet methods of prisoner interrogation.

At that time, the Soviets were perfecting techniques designed "to put a man's mind into a fog so that he will mistake what is true for what is untrue, what is right for what is wrong, and come to believe what did not happen actually had happened."

Psychiatric Journals are flush with reports concluding that former POWs may remain entangled in "harsh psychological battles" with themselves for decades after returning home including difficulty in controlling intense emotions such as anger and stress.

In political circles, McCain, sometimes referred to as "insane McCain," is well known for having a "volcanic" temper which his colleagues say often erupts into vulgar language and personal insults.

Democrat Paul Johnson, the former mayor of Phoenix, experienced McCain's in your face temperament up close. "His volatility borders in the area of being unstable," Johnson said. "Before I let this guy put his finger on the button, I would have to give considerable pause."

The Journal of America Medicine reported in an 1996 article that being a former POW is associated with "increased cumulative incidence rates of chronic disorders of the peripheral nervous system, joints, and back and an increased hazard rate of peptic ulcer."

The 71 year-old McCain most certainly suffers pain and the weakening effects of chronic arthritis. He broke both arms when he was forced to eject after his bomber was hit. He says the Vietnamese periodically re-fractured his bones during years of interrogation and torture which rendered him permanently incapable of raising his arms above his head.

McCain has never been publicly vetted about what and how much medications he is taking. Aside from his anger and arthritic pain issues, McCain has had reoccurring bouts of malignant melanoma, a deadly form of cancer that can spread quickly throughout the body.

These facts alone beg the question on how a President McCain, in the absence of his campaign staff handlers, would deal with a snap decision that had to be made "if the White House phone rang at 3 a.m."

McCain's POW experience is unique. His communist captors considered him the "crown prince" of U.S. POWs because his father, Adm. John McCain, was commander of all U.S. forces fighting in Vietnam. Because the communists believed he was from a "royal family" and would when finally released return to the United States to an important military or government job, they held him for two years in "solitary confinement."

In February, Reuters news reported that McCain's former captors are expressing delight in the news of his nomination as Republican party Presidential candidate. "In the past Senator McCain has conducted activities that had a positive impact in bringing the two nations [Vietnam/United States] closer. That is a point that Vietnamese people who follow the current affairs do recognize," said retired North Vietnamese Colonel Nguyen Van Phuong, representing retired and present members of the Vietnamese communist military.

Since McCain was first elected to Congress 1982 (and later to the Senate), he and his staff have expended tens of thousands of hours pushing U.S. legislation favoring communist Vietnam. In 1995, McCain stood with Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass. to give President Bill Clinton valuable political cover he needed to disregard the issue of missing U.S. POWs in Vietnam and remove the U.S. trade embargo against Vietnam.

No U.S. POW had any communication with McCain or knew where he was being held during at least 8 to 12 months of McCain's first two years of captivity. He has either been unable or unwilling to account for the months he was missing from the POW system.

Within days of McCain's shoot down and after being told the identity of his famous father, the Vietnamese rushed him to Gai Lam military hospital (U.S. government documents), a medical facility normally unavailable to treat U.S. POWs. McCain was kept at Gai Lam for six weeks under the control of Soviet medical specialist anxious to test the use of their "mind and behavior modification" drugs on such an important prisoner.

McCain said the communists were so effective with their interrogation techniques that he broke on the fourth day after being captured and began cooperating. "Demands for military information were accompanied by threats to terminate my medical treatment if I [McCain] did not cooperate. Eventually, I gave them my ship's name and squadron number, and confirmed that my target had been the power plant." Pages 193-194, Faith of My Fathers, by John McCain.

U.S. intelligence agents concluded in the early 1950s that Soviet intelligence (KGB) agents were experimenting on their prisoners with "mind control" techniques and behavior modification drugs

Allen W. Dulles, the newly confirmed CIA director acknowledged the dilemma in April 1953, when he told a gathering of Princeton alumni that "a sinister battle for men's minds" was underway. The Soviets, Dulles explained "have developed brain perversion techniques, some of which are so subtle and so abhorrent to our way of life that we have recoiled from facing up to them."

During the Cold War, the Soviets and the CIA began competing with secret experiments on prisoners aimed at honing the use of "chemical and biological materials capable of producing human behavioral and physiological changes." The experiments included isolation, sleep deprivation, humiliation, alternating with long hours of interrogation.

Since the Russians and Chinese (and our own CIA) have proven they can in a relative short time alter the basic emotional and behavior patterns of captives, it is fair to assume that McCain's unpredictable and often volatile temperament is directly related to his treatment as a 5 ½ prisoner of the communists.

The American public was first exposed to Soviet "brain perversion techniques" during Korean War when the communists launched a propaganda offensive featuring filmed and recorded testimony of captured U.S. servicemen confessing to war crimes including the use of germ warfare.

By the end of the Korean War, "70 percent of the 7,190 U.S. prisoners held in China had either made confessions or signed petitions calling for an end to the American war effort in Asia. Fifteen percent collaborated fully with the Chinese, and only 5 percent steadfastly resisted."

Military officials were especially alarmed when a significant number of the U.S. prisoners refused to recant their confessions as soon as they returned to the United States.

Beginning in 1960, KGB and Chinese agents directed the Vietnamese in establishing Vietnam's original interrogation guidelines for U.S. prisoners. They suggested interrogation techniques and issued specific intelligence requirements to be extracted during prisoner interrogations.

Official American position on POW confessions was that they were false and forced while privately expressing grave concern that the collaborations proved the communists had developed techniques that could "put a man's mind into a fog."

Psychologist have identified behavior in which a former prisoner emotionally bonds with an abuser as the Stockholm Syndrome. McCain was a strong advocate for prosecuting Bosnian, Yugoslavian and Iraqi war criminals and is adamantly opposed to any form of normalized relation with Cuba until it allows "free elections, human right organizations and a free and independent media."

Yet, McCain has resisted any kind of war crimes investigation of his former Vietnamese torturers. Prosecution and subsequent trials could bring to justice the Vietnamese torturers known by the American POWs as the Bug, Slopehead, the Prick, the Soft Soap Fairy, Rabbit, the Cat, Zorba and many others who were responsible for the murder in North Vietnam of at least 55 U.S. POWs and the brutal torture of hundreds of others.

In November 1991, Tracy Usry, chief investigator of the Minority Staff of the U.S. Senate Foreign Relations Committee, testified before the Senate Select Committee on POW/MIA Affairs, that the Soviets interrogated U.S. prisoners of war in Vietnam. McCain became outraged, interrupting Usry several times, arguing that "none of the returned U.S. prisoners of war released by Vietnam were ever interrogated by the Soviets."

Former KGB Maj. Gen. Oleg Kalugin testified during the hearings that the KGB did interrogate U.S. POWs in Vietnam. Kalugin stated that one of the POWs worked on by the KGB was a "high-ranking naval officer," who, according to Kalugin, agreed to work with the Soviets upon his repatriation to the United States and has frequently appeared on U.S. television.

Col. Bui Tin, a former Senior Colonel in the North Vietnamese Army, testified on the same day, but after Usry, that because of his high position in the Communist Party during the war he had the authority to "read all documents and secret telegrams from the politburo" pertaining to American prisoners of war. He said that not only did the Soviets interrogate some American prisoners of war, but that they treated the Americans very badly.

McCain stunned onlookers at the hearing when he moved to the witness table and physically embraced Col. Tin as if he was a long, lost brother.

In 1949 Dr. Andrew Salter authored Conditioned Reflex Therapy, a pioneering work in the field of psychoanalysis. Ten years later, as Richard Condon was writing The Manchurian Candidate, he asked Dr. Salter to help "design" the brainwashed character for the book and subsequent movie.

More than 40 years later, in 1992, during the C-SPAN broadcasts of the Senate Select Committee on POW/MIA Affairs, Dr. Salter watched the hearings from his New York City apartment. Salter became fascinated with McCain's overly aggressive and angry behavior toward witnesses, especially family members of men still missing in action. After a few hours he called a friend telling her, "the signs are all there, I'm afraid Senator John McCain has been brainwashed."

During the Senate Select hearings, McCain opposed all efforts by the POW/MIA families and activists to have the Select Committee expand its investigation to study how successful the Vietnamese, Soviet, Chinese and Cuban interrogation apparatuses were at exploiting American prisoners of war.

News pundants have elevated McCain to "the most popular national political figure in the country" by repeatedly describing him as a "war hero" based on his refusal accept a communist offer of "early release" from captivity.

What the media has carelessly refused to acknowledge is that the camp's senior ranking U.S. POW (SRO) had issued unquestionable orders that if a POW was to be released, "it would be the longest held prisoner" Because McCain was not the longest held POW, he would have faced a military court-marshal if he had accepted the offer.

It is incumbent upon McCain to prove to the American people that the 5 1/2 years he spent at the mercy of communist interrogators did not leave him with mental health issues that could hinder him in making snap decisions "if the White House phone rang at 3 a.m."

Is McCain taking any kind of pain or "nerve" medicines? If so, do the medicines cause emotional and physical reactions?

McCain was once treated for Posttraumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) which is said to get worse over time for former POWs, what is the status of his treatment?

Does McCain still harbor stress triggered suicidal tendencies?

Where was McCain and what was happening to him during the months he was missing from the POW camp?

McCain implies that he made only one propaganda broadcast for the communists, but Senate Foreign Relations Committee staffers say he made over 30. How many did he make and what did he get in return?

Why does McCain still deny that the Soviets were involved in the interrogation of U.S. POWs in Vietnam?

Does McCain's former interrogators, the communist Vietnamese, Russians, Chinese and Cubans have anything in their secret intelligence files about his behavior as a prisoner with which they could blackmail a President John McCain?

Posted by: popasmoke | October 9, 2008 6:21 PM | Report abuse

The Republicans are bankrupt. All they have are scurrilous lies to comfort them, but the public isn't buying them this year. Buh-bye.

Posted by: johnsonc2 | October 9, 2008 6:20 PM | Report abuse

Republicans are Stupid.

If they weren't, they'd stop being Republicans after the last 8 embarrassing years.

Now, they want 4 more? Running as "Outsiders" as in "it wasn't US doing it?"

Yet, obviously, it's the same low life target audience and fear mongering tactics at play,

just a pasty senile old man in place of the doddering fool Texan.

It all comes out the McSame in the End, doesn't it?

Posted by: LeftwithNochoice | October 9, 2008 6:20 PM | Report abuse

While the RNC is at it with the Ayers ad, why doesn't the DNC run ads depicting what the association of McCain with Charles Keating cost the American taxpayers in that financial crisis of the 80's. Then run an ad question Todd Palin's membership in political party that advocates secession from the USA. And why don't they run an ad questioning McCain's mental capacity to govern, since he addressed a crowd of supporters and the American public as 'My fellow Prisoners.'

Posted by: tydicea | October 9, 2008 6:20 PM | Report abuse

So when are we going to hear about the Todd Palin's radical ties. I do not think we need to worry about Aryes visiting the White House anytime soon but Todd Palin seems to be running Alaska. Todd will declaring Alaska and independent country.

Posted by: bradcpa | October 9, 2008 6:20 PM | Report abuse

This really is ridiculous. Chris ..stop it.
It's time for all the members of the BOD of the Foundation to step forward and say, "if serving with Prof. Ayers means that I am somehow 'suspect' then call me a terrorist too. This is the worst sort of McCarthyism and it's being abetted by the WaPo.

Remember folks, if they can do it to 'them', they can do it to you.

Desperation. Hate, Fear and division is all they've got.

Posted by: thebobbob | October 9, 2008 6:19 PM | Report abuse

So complete ignorance coupled with total arrogance is the mix required to be an Obama supporter.

Google Stanley Kurtz and William Ayer and read the source material he provides to prove an undeniable link between Obama and Ayers. This is as important an issue as this deplorable economy since who we put in the White House should be trustworthy.

Obama has NEVER responded to the questions about his associations with Ayer except with a "Shut up, I explained."

The saddest part of this whole thing is the betrayal of the press. Journalists who do not investigate these allegations because of their allegiance to Obama are robbing the American people of the ability to make an informed decision about the candidates.

And blaming one party or the other for this debacle of an economy is just foolish. Something as large and complex as the US economy can not be answered with a simple finger pointing.

Anyone (myself included) with debt (credit card, home equity, etc.) has their hands dirty too.

So if the press won't give us the information we need, why not use google and yahoo and investigate for ourselves. Dig for the truth instead of eating the pap these newspapers are feedin us.

Obama is not good for this nation. McCain is not that great either but is truly the lesser of two evils.

And yes, I do mean evil.

Posted by: iainswife | October 9, 2008 6:18 PM | Report abuse

"I also remember the left wing spitting on us at LAX when we came home."

This sort of stuff is rightwing myth. Care to provide solid substantiation? When did you fly into LAX (on a troop transport, I assume)?

And why would the left wing want to insult the troops? Sweetheart, most leftwingers knew it was the country's leadership, and not the ground troops, who were responsible for the war in Vietnam.

Nice attempt, though, at perpetuating a rightwing legend.

Posted by: castanea | October 9, 2008 6:18 PM | Report abuse

"that's funy considering it's Obama with the truth squads, the law suits on the NRA, the boycotts of radio staions, the Fairness doctrine, the claims of distraction, etc."

I apologize - I forgot about the Zoukian double standard. When McSame hurls these tired Ayers associations, it's the First Amendment. When Obama or anyone else sets the record straight, it's fascism. Gotcha.

How about that time Charles Keating teabagged McCain in the Phoenix airport bathroom?

Posted by: bondjedi | October 9, 2008 6:17 PM | Report abuse

John McCain is truly desperate (he can read the polls), and an idiot - GM is tanking and he's trying to tar Barack Obama, with a man who was hired by one of McCain's top supporters, Lenore Annenberg.

Republicans - Lenore and Walter Annenberg hired William Ayers to run a fund in Chicago. They were close friends of Nixon and Reagan. Walter Annenberg founded TV Guide.

Barack Obama sat on the board of that fund. along with many other reputable people.

This is the height of stupidity for the RNC and the McCain Palin ticket. We as Americans are not that stupid.

Try some other tactic you idiots.

The rest of us have mortgages, heating bills and rent to worry about.

Posted by: DOlivervelez | October 9, 2008 6:17 PM | Report abuse

Forget the Ayers distraction.

Rather, read the New York Times expose' on how six swing states have been illegally purging voters from the rolls (old and new voters). THIS is scary. If the link doesn't work go to nyt.com and search on "Colorado" and "voter".

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/09/us/politics/09voting.html?_r=1&ei=5070&emc=eta1&oref=slogin

Posted by: Towards_Light | October 9, 2008 6:17 PM | Report abuse

What does it say about Sarah Palin, a “so-called evangelical Christian,” who:

(1) Attacks another professing Christian, Barak Obama.

(2) Continually smears another US citizen, William Ayers, who has turned his life around in a manner not unlike ALL Christians who have done wrong, been deemed sinners, repented and accepted Christ and turned their lives around.

(3) Attacks and smears a highly respected Christian leader in Jeremiah Wright.

(4) Continuously LIES and consequently DIVIDES this nation at a crucial time when UNITY is needed.

What it says to me is that she will say and do ANYTHING to earn 30 pieces of silver, including selling her own soul and even the souls of some of her own flesh and blood, and finally it tells me that she is not fit for leadership in this great nation.

Posted by: valskeet | October 9, 2008 6:15 PM | Report abuse

McCain is like that desperate drunken guy in a bar at closing time trying to pick up the only single girl left, throwing out line after line in hopes something will break through and she'll go home with him. Sad, sad, sad.

It's also very ironic he's running the exact same campaign type as Kerry did against Bush. Kerry ran an anti-Bush campaign and McCain is running an anti-Obama campaign. If memory serves me, that strategy didn't work out too well for Kerry.

Sad, sad, sad what's become of the man I supported in 2000 in the RNC Primary.

Posted by: flyfishchef | October 9, 2008 6:14 PM | Report abuse

Marketing has risen to dominate this country. Imagine that a naive candidate with no experience and shady past can be packaged in such as way as to be palatable to almost half of the country, despite any evidence it may be foolhardy.

We have simply moved uptown, from Wall street to Madison avenue. It is no less a scam on the non-NE corridor simpletons who still fall for this stuff.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | October 9, 2008 6:14 PM | Report abuse


Chicago has less than half the population of New York City, yet during the years Obama has been state and US senator, the murder count has been the HIGHEST IN THE NATION.

Obama -- he'll do to America what he and his friends have done to Chicago...

Posted by: Rezko2Raines | October 9, 2008 6:14 PM | Report abuse

The hussein parade of slimebag pals and bad judgment is endless.....

Rev. "God D@#! America" Wright. For nearly twenty years hussein was the disciple and avid follower and supporter of this racial bigot. hussein publicly praised wright on numerous occasions. hussein gave wright's church $26,000 in 2007, plus many thousands more previously. wright's vile, bigoted harangues against America, in general, and white Americans, in particular, illustrate the true foundation of hussein. As hussein said: "I could no more disown him (rev. wright) than I could disown my ... grandmother." wright is current having an extramarital affair with one of his other disciples.

Tony Rezko. Sleazy lobbyist, slum landlord, and hussein pal who is now a convicted felon. There have been numerous shady real estate deals between hussein and Rezko - including the lot next to hussein's Chicago mansion that was purchased by Rezko, then sold to hussein at a bargain-basement price. The Los Angeles Times reported that it had found that Rezko and his associates had given hussein "more than $200,000 in donations since 1995."

W. Ayers. Weather Underground terrorist movement that "declared war on America" and successfully bombed the U.S. Capitol, Pentagon, and police stations other targets across the nation.and a hussein pal. hussein's political career was even launched at an event hosted by Ayers in his own home. hussein has worked extensively with Ayers on plans for the loony-left radicalization of US education.

James Johnson Appointed by hussein to head vetting VP candidates. Per ABC News, 11Jun08, Johnson "represented a world of influence and special interests" and has received special treatment from the sleaziest sub-prime lender of them all: "Johnson had received $7 million in loans for mortgages with rates below market averages from a special account controlled by the CEO of Countrywide Financial Corp., Angelo Mozilo."

Joe Biden. Running mate and plagiarizing expert, who has stolen more words than Milton Berle. Totally lacking in ethics, in his third-rate, mediocre law school Biden was only able to graduate 76th in a class of 85 - i.e., he was in the lowest 10.5%! Of course, while campaigning, he claimed falsely to have graduated in the "top half" of his class. A plagiarizer and a LIAR! As a politics-as-usual, 30+-year congressional parasite and reprobate, Plagiarist-Joe never worked harder than in his efforts to kill bi-partisan legislation simply because it would have adversely affected the enormous income of his lobbyist son. His motto: "RAISING TAXES IS PATRIOTIC."

...and many, many more such slimebags with which no respectable American would associate.

"The measure of a man is judged by the company he keeps."

Posted by: ImpeachNOW | October 9, 2008 6:13 PM | Report abuse

McCain and his trolls are pathetic.

Maybe McCain has a mind control chip in his head and his thoughts are controlled by the Vietcong...

Thus, the "my fellow prisoners" slip.

They want to destroy us from within... look how well GWBush has done so far...

Now, the old "War Hero" the "Manchurian Candidate" is going Negative to ensure that North Vietnam is in control of our Majestic and Perfect Nation.

Ha Ha Ha.

McCain looks like an angry old fart of a Loser.

Posted by: LeftwithNochoice | October 9, 2008 6:12 PM | Report abuse

I was going to send another $100 donation to the Obama campaign but, now, I am taking a close look at MoveOn. They purportedly have a series of ads on Palin's adultry, McCain's hisory of adultry, bribes, kickbacks, and hobnobbing with crooks (oh, and the gambling industry....whoa!). Does anyone know if they are going to drive a honey over and empty the contents of their swerlike history all over them? That woud make great television!

Posted by: mibrooks27 | October 9, 2008 6:12 PM | Report abuse

Here's Sarah Palin on "Hannity and Colmes," Sept. 17, 2008:

"I think the corruption on Wall Street. That's to blame. And that violation of the public trust. And that contract that should be inherent in corporations who are spending, investing other people's money, the abuse of that is what has got to stop."

Sounds good, but days later she was headlining a $10,000 per head fundraiser in Naples, Florida at the home of John "Jack" Donahue, co- founder and Chairman of Federated Investors, a financial services company. You might recognize the name because in 2005, Federated Investors paid a $72 million fine to the SEC for unethical trading practices.

Her hypocrisy is staggering.

C'mon, mainstream media, why not go after McCain and Palin's CURRENT associates who have gotten us into this economic disaster with their shady deals that made them rich?

Posted by: trace1 | October 9, 2008 6:11 PM | Report abuse

What details are you talking about? There are no "details." My goodness, do you simply press forward when you receive this propaganda. You're a journalist, right? What happened to the notion of the discipline of verification? Or have you just abdanoned the principles of journalism altogether. Unbelievable. But you won't respond to any of this criticism. You will keep on sholvelling this discredited drek because its called "objectivity." Sickening.

Posted by: agitate | October 9, 2008 6:11 PM | Report abuse

McCain needs to fire up his base. I suggest an old-fashioned cross burning at the end of each rally.

Posted by: hamishdad | October 9, 2008 6:11 PM | Report abuse

Well my friend, there is absolutely no way that McCain can compete with events on wall street.

"The times make the man."

Posted by: McCainIsPopeye | October 9, 2008 6:11 PM | Report abuse

Ah, the straight-talk express hits the liar's slime parkway. So much for maverick John McCain. I guess their internals are even worse than the rest of the polls. But Chris, what's your excuse? Drudge told you to do it?

Posted by: havok26 | October 9, 2008 6:10 PM | Report abuse

Obama is telling tall tales from the hip. His associations with Ayers is old and well known and he only claims that it is a guy from my neighberhood. His wife is good friends with Ayers wife and Ayers hosted his political coming out party. This is something that the american people need to know before the election. A presdident who is good friends with a terrorist is a man that cannot and should not be trusted under any circumstance. Now we see that one of Obama is trying to distance himself from another former employer known as ACORN. He trained new hires how to be operatives in this subversive organization that specializes in voter fraud. This very moment this group is being investigated for their subversive efforts. The american people should see this man for what he is and what horrible consequence could fall out from him being elected president. God help us all.

Posted by: gava2 | October 9, 2008 6:10 PM | Report abuse

Teaching Toward Freedom: Moral Commitment and Ethical Action in the Classroom
Author: William Ayers

Shouldn't William Ayers be correctly introduced as an author and professor in the College of Education at the University of Illinois at Chicago, holding the title of Distinguished Professor and former weatherman, not just as a retired terrorists.

Posted by: altonparrish3 | October 9, 2008 6:10 PM | Report abuse

WHO WILL BE SLEEPING IN THE LINCOLN BEDROOM IN AN OBAMA WHITEHOUSE?

Reverends Sharpton, Jackson and Jerimiah Wright will own that time share.

Scary.

Posted by: blevins20061 | October 9, 2008 6:08 PM | Report abuse

Well, well, well... I started to believe that the election was already decided. This as just confirm that. Now the American people has to prepare for the biggest of all surprises: Bush will resign in a da day or two, Cheney will become President, McCain will "voluntarily" defer to the "new" President and Cheney will be Obama´s opponent in November.

Posted by: luispanagi | October 9, 2008 6:08 PM | Report abuse

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The news is finally starting to reach voters that the cause of the financial crisis can be traced by to Democratic leadership involving Fannie Mae, Freddy Mac, and pressuring banks to lend to people who could not pay back the loans. It is up to McCain and Gov. Palin to get the truth out because the media will not.

Posted by: Nsubuga1 "

Hey Nosebugger:

Only because you morons keep parroting it. Where's the evidence, dope?

Posted by: thrh | October 9, 2008 6:08 PM | Report abuse

Well my friend, you just go do that. You go out and spend what little cash you have left on attack ads. Meanwhile, I expect Obama to counter them by about 10 to 1 with his massive cash advantage.

Meanwhile, doggone it, you will have squandered another week of precious time that will be lost forever dontcha know.

Why not just show video of Palin, dressed up as a slinky barfly, winking at the audience? That seems to be the depth of your strategy so far.

Posted by: McCainIsPopeye | October 9, 2008 6:08 PM | Report abuse

Trying to use the Bill Ayres connection against Obama makes me sick.

You may not know that both McCain and Hillary tried this tactic in April earlier this year.

Noted academic Stanley Fish said it best back then. Read:
http://fish.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/04/27/much-ado/?scp=1&sq=staney%20fish%20ayer&st=cse

In case you want to skip the column,here is a quote:
And in case he (McCain) has forgotten what it feels like, he may soon be reminded; for there’s a story abroad on the Internet that says that rather than being a heroic, tortured prisoner of war, McCain was a collaborator who traded information for a comfortable apartment serviced by maids who were really prostitutes. I don’t believe it for a second, just as I am sure that Senators McCain and Clinton don’t really believe that Obama condones setting bombs or supports a radical agenda that was pursued (as he has said) when he was eight years old.

The difference is that I feel a little dirty just for having repeated a scurrilous rumor even as I rejected it. Apparently Obama’s two opponents have no such qualms and are happily retailing, and wallowing in, the dirt.

Sarah and John,
"Have you no shame?"


Posted by: CliffHawley | October 9, 2008 6:08 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone have any information about John McCain's medical history that would shed light on whether he has had his backbone and manly parts removed?

The question comes to mind after his wife, the serial substance-abuser Cindy, and running mate, "Siss-Boom-Bah" Sarah Palin have made the most scurrilous Big Lie-type attacks against Barack Obama.

Yet on the night of the face-to-face debate, John McCain could only bleat out a tinny "That One," but showed no stomach--intestinal fortitude--for bringing up the McCarthyite Ayers, et. al. nonsense.

(Ayers being that guy who was funded by the foundation of a Ronald Reagan friend.)

Rumor has it if you look behind the skirts of Cindy McCain and Sarah Palin, even today you can see John McCain peeking out like Alfred E. Neuman.

Not very presidential.

Or manly.

Posted by: Martinedwinandersen | October 9, 2008 6:07 PM | Report abuse

McCain doesn't need Ayers.....
"This election has me very worried. So many things to consider. About a year ago I would have voted for Obama. I have changed my mind three times since than. I watch all the news channels, jumping from one to another. I must say this drives my husband crazy. But, I feel if you view MSNBC, CNN, and Fox News, you might get some middle ground to work with. About six months ago, I started thinking "where did the money come from for Obama". I have four daughters who went to College, and we were middle class, and money was tight. We (including my girls) worked hard and there were lots of student loans.

I started looking into Obama's life.

Around 1979 Obama started college at Occidental in California . He is very open about his two years at Occidental, he tried all kinds of drugs and was wasting his time but, even though he had a brilliant mind, did not apply himself to his studies. "Barry" (that was the name he used all his life) during this time had two roommates, Muhammad Hasan Chandoo and Wahid Hamid, both from Pakistan . During the summer of 1981, after his second year in college, he made a "round the world" trip. Stopping to see his mother in Indonesia , next Hyderabad in India , three weeks in Karachi , Pakistan where he stayed with his roommate's family, then off to Africa to visit his father's family. My question - Where did he get the money for this trip? Nether I, nor any one of my children would have had money for a trip like this when they where in college. When he came back he started school at Columbia University in New York . It is at this time he wants everyone to call him Barack - not Barry. Do you know what the tuition is at Columbia ? It's not cheap! to say the least. Where did he get money for tuition? Student Loans? Maybe. After Columbia , he went to Chicago to work as a Community Organizer for $12,000. a year. Why Chicago ? Why not New York ? He was already living in New York .

By "chance" he met Antoin "Tony" Rezko, born in Aleppo Syria , and a real estate developer in Chicago . Rezko has been convicted of fraud and bribery this year. Rezko, was named "Entrepreneur of the Decade" by the Arab-American Business and Professional Association". About two years later, Obama entered Harvard Law School . Do you have any idea what tuition is for Harvard Law School ? Where did he get the money for Law School ? More student loans? After Law school, he went back to Chicago . Rezko offered him a job, which he turned down. But, he did take a job with Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland. Guess what? They represented "Rezar" which Rezko's firm. Rezko was one of Obama's first major financial contributors when he ran for office in Chicago . In 2003, Rezko threw an early fundraiser for Obama which Chicago Tribune reporter David Mendelland claims was instrumental in providing Obama with "seed money" for his U.S. Senate race. In 2005, Obama purchased a new home in Kenwoood District of Chicago for $1.65 million (less than asking price). With ALL those Student Loans - Where did he get the money for the property? On the same day Rezko's wife, Rita, purchased the adjoining empty lot for full price. The London Times reported that Nadhmi Auchi, an Iraqi-born Billionaire loaned Rezko $3.5 million three weeks before Obama's new home was purchased. Obama met Nadhmi Auchi many times with Rezko.

Now, we have Obama running for President. Valerie Jarrett, was Michele Obama's boss. She is now Obama's chief advisor and he does not make any major decisions without talking to her first. Where was Jarrett born? Ready for this? Shiraz , Iran ! Do we see a pattern here? Or am I going crazy?

On May 10, 2008 The Times reported, Robert Malley advisor to Obama was "sacked" after the press found out he was having regular contacts with "Hamas", which controls Gaza and is connected with Iran . This past week, buried in the back part of the papers, Iraqi newspapers reported that during Obama's visit to Iraq , he asked their leaders to do nothing about the war until after he is elected, and he will "Take care of things".

Oh, and by the way, remember the college roommates that where born in Pakistan ? They are in charge of all those "small" Internet campaign contribution for Obama. Where is that money coming from? The poor and middle class in this country? Or could it be from the Middle East ?

And the final bit of news. On September 7, 2008, The Washington Times posted a verbal slip that was made on "This Week" with George Stephanapoulos. Obama on talking about his religion said, "My Muslim faith". When questioned, "he make a mistake". Some mistake! We trained them to fly airplanes; so they could carry out their mission. Now we're training them to run our country.

All of the above information I got on line. If you would like to check it - Wikipedia, encyclopedia, Barack Obama; Tony Rezko; Valerie Jarrett: Daily Times - Obama visited Pakistan in 1981; The Washington Times - September 7, 2008; The Times May 10, 2008.

Now the BIG question - If I found out all this information on my own, Why haven't all of our "intelligent" members of the press been reporting this?

A phrase that keeps ringing in my ear - "Beware of the enemy from within"!!"

Please, anybody with any common sense, please pass this on, which is what I am doing. This came from a writer on Craigslist....

Posted by: fly66 | October 9, 2008 6:06 PM | Report abuse

I guess I admit to my age when I remember the Weather Underground. I also remember the left wing spitting on us at LAX when we came home. Same mind same ideas as Senator Obama all those years later. We who were there understand the terrorists of our time. Those terrorists are still among us and now evidently have the love and support of someone who is leading in the polls to be our nation's leader. The shame of it all is so many people are so ill informed as to not know any details. Today, the same people are said to be registering voters multiple times and others who may not even be allowed to vote for a start. The shame on you campaign to make republicans be quiet will not work again, I hope. Republicans have an up hill battle because there are no avenues through the mainstream media to be heard. Liberal media apparently supports American Terrorists. I wonder if Senator Obama also supports the Oklahoma City Bomber and will support a monument to the terrorists who died in the deaths of thousands in New York.

Posted by: fuelman1 | October 9, 2008 6:06 PM | Report abuse


Does Obama have any close friends that do not hate, despise, bomb, threaten to kill, defraud or steal from America and its taxpayers???

Obama === A bomber's best friend

Posted by: Rezko2Raines | October 9, 2008 6:06 PM | Report abuse

hey jerryvov please don't refer to Palin as McCain's "parrot." I have parrots and they have a thousand times the integrity and the intelligence of that bimbo.

Posted by: chrisfox8 | October 9, 2008 6:06 PM | Report abuse

i'll gladly admit i'm voting for Obama next month, but you guys really don't need to bash on McCain like you have been. he has served our country and paid an incredible sacrifice. now disagree all you want with his policies, but it makes me sick when you call him a traitor or other similar names.

OBAMA/BIDEN 08

Posted by: mporter13 | October 9, 2008 6:05 PM | Report abuse

I'm sure the ad notes that Ayers was selected Chicago's "Citizen of the Year" in 1997....

Posted by: thrh | October 9, 2008 6:05 PM | Report abuse

The American economy is being devastated by ill-advised Republican economic policy. McCain /Palin has resorted to "terrorist" accusations to the point where they may be inciting violence. You can see it in the crowds....

What is wrong with these people??? Do they want Americans to simply overlook our collapsing economy??

Posted by: aeaustin | October 9, 2008 6:05 PM | Report abuse

McCain shows his cowardice. He doesn't say a word about this in the debate and then hides behind the apron strings of Sarah Palin and the RNC to deliver his slimy message. He is afraid to deliver his venom to Obama in person - probably afraid that his rage would boil out of control and the real McCain would be exposed to the public.

If this is all the Republicans have, they are done.

Posted by: johnsonc2 | October 9, 2008 6:05 PM | Report abuse

The goal here of the RNC is to create as much chaos a possible so that the voters will be completely divided and confused.

Posted by: sketchpada | October 9, 2008 6:05 PM | Report abuse

this is a sure sign that the republicans know they don't have a chance.

Think about the other republicans, those in congress. Does the RNC think we won't feel the same disgust for anyone republican that we feel for McCain now?

It's almost like they're trying to lose.

Posted by: khote14 | October 9, 2008 6:05 PM | Report abuse

The economy is tanking, and all the RNC can focus on is a lame attempt to label Obama as a terrorist. Does "Nero fiddled as Rome burned" strike anyone as an apt allegory?

Posted by: labman57 | October 9, 2008 6:05 PM | Report abuse

We,ve got a full blown depression on our hands and the Republican demagogues are pandering to hate just like the Nazis did against the Jews in Germany prior to World WarII. The McCain-Palin ticket have no answers to the mess we are in except to give more tax cuts to the rich and to the corporations. Meanwhile the stocke market goes down another 678 points .

Posted by: majorteddy | October 9, 2008 6:05 PM | Report abuse

Republicans are going down hard.
No surprise they are grasping.
So much for integrity.
So much for honor.
Harpies, Pharisees and Nazis have united in one soulless party.
Not good for them, not good for the country.

Posted by: wpost4112 | October 9, 2008 6:04 PM | Report abuse

This really all about the "honor" of a sad old jackass. While Rome burns he retches-up the personal attacks. You're going down in flames, Johnny boy, for about the sixth time.

Posted by: branfo4 | October 9, 2008 6:03 PM | Report abuse

McPsycho and his parrot are apparently too stupid to understand that people don't care who Obama knew when he was 8 years old but folks damn sure care about their retirement funds and the eight years of Republican "leadership" has run this Nation right into the ground. The wingnuts can follow their lemming buddies right over the cliff while these two idiots stand there shoveling sh!t and only getting it all over themselves....perfect.

Posted by: Jerryvov | October 9, 2008 6:03 PM | Report abuse

The American economy is being devastated by ill-advised Republican economic policy. McCain /Palin has resorted to "terrorist" accusations to the point where they may be inciting violence. You can see it in the crowds....

What is wrong with these people??? Do they want Americans to simply overlook our collapsing economy??

Posted by: aeaustin | October 9, 2008 6:03 PM | Report abuse

McCain and Palin can't sell their platform because even they realize that they have no substantive policies to present which differ significantly from those of the Bush years.

So instead they rely on instilling fear and hatred of somebody who is "different", a philosophy that is consistent with the history of the extreme right of the GOP. They are all about morality, but care nothing about ethics.

Posted by: labman57 | October 9, 2008 5:59 PM | Report abuse

Nsubuga1 wrote:

The news is finally starting to reach voters that the cause of the financial crisis can be traced by to Democratic leadership. . . [SNIP argument ad nauseum]
============================

Yeah, right. That must be why McCain is leading in all the polls and has such a wide Electoral College lead.

Republicans are going to be out of power for a generation. It will take them that long to come up with a better "brand."

Posted by: dastubbs | October 9, 2008 5:59 PM | Report abuse

VOTE DEMOCRATIC ACROSS THE BOARD, CUT THEM OFF AT THE KNEES. LEAVE NO REPUBLICANS STANDING WHEN THIS IS OVER. TOTAL DESTRUCTION ON THE REPUBLICAN PARTY.

EMAILS ARE CIRCULATING ALL OVER THE PLACE AND I CAN TELL YOU I KNOW NO ONE WHO WILL BE VOTING FOR ANY REPUBLICANS AND I DON'T CARE WHO THE PERSON IS.

MCCAIN WHO IS A PATHETIC LITTLE TROLL AND A TRAITOR TO HIS COUNTRY (DOCUMENTED) AND HIS STOOGE PALIE WILL LOSE AND LEAVE THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IN THE GARBAGE WHERE IT BELONGS FOR MANY YEARS TO COME.

Posted by: popasmoke | October 9, 2008 5:59 PM | Report abuse

McCain fights from behind skirts of wife, Palin ...

Does anyone have any information about John McCain's medical history that would shed light on whether he has had his spine and manly parts removed?

The question comes to mind after his wife, substance-abuser Cindy, and running mate, "Siss-Boom-Bah" Sarah Palin have made the most scurrilous Big Lie-type attacks against Barack Obama.

Yet on the night of the face-to-face debate, John McCain could only bleat out a tinny "That One," but showed no stomach--intestinal fortitude--for bringing up the McCarthyite Ayers, et. al. nonsense.

(Ayers being that guy who was funded by the foundation of a Ronald Reagan friend.)

Rumor has it if you look behind the skirts of Cindy McCain and Sarah Palin, even today you can see John McCain peeking out like Alfred E. Neuman.

Not very presidential.

Or manly.

Posted by: Martinedwinandersen | October 9, 2008 5:58 PM | Report abuse

McPain and his side-kick Winky have decided to go out on a low note.

Posted by: binkynh | October 9, 2008 5:58 PM | Report abuse

Is it a slam if no one cares? It's not even a glancing blow.

Posted by: ippolit | October 9, 2008 5:58 PM | Report abuse

This is 'home grown' terrorism at it's finest.

The McCain (Bush) campaign can't win on the issues so it's time to start the negative ads. It's a corner stone piece of the GOP like Reaganomics (oops..that didn't work either).

Let's fix the real issues we have in this country.

Posted by: ssanford00 | October 9, 2008 5:58 PM | Report abuse

This crap is only aimed at the most extream republican base and whacko's who would not vote for Obama anyway. Mean time Mccain and Palin just look like losers grasping for straws. This stuff only solidifies the democrats.
My wife hasn't been home from the office except for a few hours for days. When in public with an Obama shirt on people blow horns, we get thumbs up. Every store we go in we get smiles when they see the shirts. There is a growing hatred for Mccain and palin especially Palin.

Posted by: popasmoke | October 9, 2008 5:56 PM | Report abuse

Give us four years of McBush, and we'll see what happens to that pesky First Amendment.

that's funy considering it's Obama with the truth squads, the law suits on the NRA, the boycotts of radio staions, the Fairness doctrine, the claims of distraction, etc.

In short a facist. I thought he was a soviet?

Posted by: king_of_zouk | October 9, 2008 5:54 PM | Report abuse

The news is finally starting to reach voters that the cause of the financial crisis can be traced by to Democratic leadership involving Fannie Mae, Freddy Mac, and pressuring banks to lend to people who could not pay back the loans. It is up to McCain and Gov. Palin to get the truth out because the media will not.

Posted by: Nsubuga1 | October 9, 2008 5:54 PM | Report abuse

That the masters of the negative campaign, and its most frequent users, should suffer political damage from their own actions is poetic.

Ayers is no more or less relevant to Obama's campaign than Charles Keating is to McCain's. And if they are relevant it is clear that McCain is subject to greater criticism. Keating (with McCain's protection and help) damaged the economic interests of the entire nation. McCain could have prevented it but instead actually protected Keating and helped him hurt his fellow Americans.

Obama did not know Ayers until many years after his radical activities. Ayers(while his actions were despicable) didn't manage to accomplish much at all. And Ayers, at least, went on to make a contribution to society. Keating? No so much. McCain has forgotten his commitment to run an honorable campaign. We all know he wasn't much of a student at Annapolis but clearly he never came to understand what honor really means.

Posted by: Union1 | October 9, 2008 5:52 PM | Report abuse

The other day, Chris wrote, "Watch to see if McCain goes on TV with Ayers over the coming days. It's a gamble but one McCain may have no choice but to take."

I'd turn that implied question on its head:

"Is there *any* depth to which Republicans will not descend in their effort to retain control of the executive branch?"

I'm confident the answer is "Yes, there is a limit". I'm not confident that their limit meets even minimal standards of decency and civility without which a democracy is likely to descend into Lebanon-like factionalism.

In addition to McCain's ambition, I suspect that there's an additional factor at work in desperate efforts to keep Republicans in control of the White House.

I suspect that the Bush/Cheney administration has a whole lot of dirty linen in the closets of our executive mansion.

Posted by: officermancuso | October 9, 2008 5:52 PM | Report abuse

got to do something to chip away at the thin veneer. Mccain was ahead only two weeks ago. who knows what will be the case two weeks from now. Mccain is simply sticking to his winning issue - that he is a leader and experienced, known and trusted, while Obama is an enigma, still unknown. this is a fact because the race is still close. the posters on this board, who are politically aware and already decided are not the target for these ads. It is the dimwit undecided, ignorant voter who never heard that Obama is a socialist and wished to turn our country into a Soviet.

can you believe there are voters out there more stupid than drindl?

the seeds of doubt must sprout quickly though.

there are many outside activites that can occur - a missile firing in Pakistan for example, an Israeli airstrike, a terrorist video, a russian invasion, an Iranian naval incident.

any of these would deflate Obamas lead instantly. If I were a conspiratorial minded tin foil hat like mikeb, I would predict something in the week before the election.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | October 9, 2008 5:51 PM | Report abuse

""Fortunately, with the First Amendment still intact, he does not get to decide that."

Give us four years of McBush, and we'll see what happens to that pesky First Amendment.

Why didn't Governor Palin give a crap about the First Amendment during the Bong Hits 4 Jesus days? Oh yeah, she doesn't know about any Supreme Court cases, even the ones that start right under her nose.

Posted by: bondjedi | October 9, 2008 5:50 PM | Report abuse

McCain's ad was right on.

WHO WILL BE SLEEPING IN THE LINCOLN BEDROOM IN AN OBAMA WHITEHOUSE? This is a serious question that has captured my attention. The question is in reaction to what almost everyone sees – a media blatantly refusing to report on legitimate issues and distorting anything or anyone who stands in the way the Obama election efforts. How many reporters are looking for people who can tell Obama’s story? I’m not sure anyone can without damaging Senator Obama. Go to: http://zachjonesishome.wordpress.com/2008/10/02/who-will-be-sleeping-in-the-lincoln-bedroom-in-an-obama-whitehouse/

Posted by: Nsubuga1 | October 9, 2008 5:50 PM | Report abuse

The last ditch effort by a sad old man and his pathetic campaign. He is losing in West Virginia - how the heck does THAT happen?

Posted by: LABC | October 9, 2008 5:47 PM | Report abuse

They're going to drive down their own support more than people supporting Obama. What the hell does the GOP stand for anymore?

Its not often I agree with David Frum, but he's spot on with this analysis:

http://frum.nationalreview.com

"We conservatives are sending a powerful, inadvertent message with this negative campaign against Barack Obama's associations and former associations: that we lack a positive agenda of our own and that we don’t care about the economic issues that are worrying American voters."

Posted by: bsimon1 | October 9, 2008 5:41 PM | Report abuse

McCain is in a no-win situation, and this will cause him to appear desperate to all but the Republican base.

It doesn't help his cause, that this personal attack - irrelevant to burning issues of war and peace and financial panic - comes on a day when US financial markets tanked again.

The economic mess is especially frightening as discerning voters realize that the Fed has just about used up all its ammunition. It's also alarming that, for the first time in this financial panic, the 10 year Treasury Note fell hard at the same time that stocks fell hard, signalling, I would think, the beginning of a loss of confidence in the ability of the U.S. government to meet its financial obligations.

*That* is something new under the sun.

Posted by: officermancuso | October 9, 2008 5:39 PM | Report abuse

Laughably desperate move. Of course, after seeing this video of the McCain/Palin "base," maybe it will work for them after all: http://soonerthought.blogspot.com/2008/10/meet-mccain-palin-basecuckoo-cuckoo.html

Posted by: soonerthought | October 9, 2008 5:35 PM | Report abuse

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