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Rothenberg Warns of GOP "Bloodbath"



The horizon looks bleak for House and Senate Republicans. AP Photo/J. Scott Applewhite

UPDATE, 4 pm: The Cook Political Report is also amping up their predictions of Democratic gains in the House and Senate next month. In the latest updates, Charlie Cook now says Democrats are positioned to win between six and eight Senate seats and 15 to 25 House seats. "At this stage, the most relevant question would seem to be: 'How big will the train wreck be for the Republican Party up and down the ballot in November,'" writes Charlie.

ORIGINAL POST

As grim as things look at the moment for John McCain's chances at the White House, the horizon is even darker for House and Senate Republicans trying desperately to avoid huge losses across the country this fall.

As we noted in a story for the Post over the weekend, Republican strategists closely following the battle for Congress are bracing for major losses -- the result of a severely damaged Republican brand combined with the late-breaking economic crisis that has redounded to their party's considerable detriment. (Make sure to read Peter Baker's excellent piece in the New York Times magazine about retiring Virginia Republican Rep. Tom Davis's frank assessment of the miserable state of the GOP.)

And now comes a column from Stu Rothenberg who, along with former Fix boss Charlie Cook stands atop the congressional handicapping game in Washington, in which Stu declares that the GOP stands on the precipice of an electoral "bloodbath."

Writes Rothenberg:

"While Democratic gains both in the House and Senate could still grow or shrink, for Republicans, the end of this movie won't be pretty, no matter the ultimate number.

We could see a new modern floor for House Republicans made in November, and it's likely to be in the 170s, if not the upper 160s. Given the realignment of the Reagan years and the GOP's advantages coming from the last redistricting, this is an incredibly low level."

Rothenberg goes on to revise upwards his previous seat gain predictions for Democrats in the House and Senate; in the upper chamber he says that 60 seats are now within reach while projecting gains of between 20 and 30 seats in the House. (Need more on the most vulnerable races in the Senate and House? Check our latest Senate and House Friday Lines.)

The impact of such a high-profile handicapper declaring that a second Democratic wave in as many election cycles is forming is hard to overstate. Watch for a series of pieces from major newspapers and cable outlets on the increasing peril for Congressional Republicans this fall -- like this one penned by the New York Times' Carl Hulse today.

What will all that coverage do? Embolden Democrats, depress Republicans and generally make an already bad situation for GOPers even worse.

And, remember: While McCain still has the power to change his situation -- as a presidential nominee he can directly affect the news on any one day between now and Nov. 4 -- House and Senate candidates have little ability to fundamentally alter the national narrative. That's bad news for anyone running downballot with an "R" after his or her name.

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The leaders of the Republican party has really screwed up America!

It is amazing that Republicans, REPUBLICANS I TELL YOU, have managed move America farther and farther away from absolute Capitalism.

Ah well...maybe Socialism is not that bad.

Posted by: AJ2008 | October 10, 2008 3:53 PM | Report abuse

More like Republicans for Obama/Biden.

Nice try pretending to be a Democrat, though. Too bad you Republicans are so patently obvious.

Posted by: neon_bunny | October 10, 2008 2:48 PM | Report abuse

Democrats for John McCain and Sarah Palin in 2008

Posted by: hclark1 | October 10, 2008 1:38 PM | Report abuse

In all fifty states, Republicans and Democrats are doing battle for state legislatures. Presumably, the state by state battles are also ugly for Republicans. The next census is in 2010. Is the 2008 or the 2010 legislature the one who gets to redistrict?

Posted by: caribis | October 10, 2008 12:57 PM | Report abuse

Whats next for McCain's operatives? Plan attacks at Obama campaign stops? They seem to really mean "by any means necessary."
Promoting violence and incite to riot, yep...thats a real solid plan to move this country....wait, move us which way again?
The GOP should be the newly named terrorist organization by the FBI.

Posted by: SYWanda | October 10, 2008 11:31 AM | Report abuse

Who is the fool on here that thinks I care what Obama did or did not do while head of the Harvard Law Review?
In the words of the Republicans themselves...".....HUH?"

When we get to the day that we can talk current strategies, ideas, beliefs....plans for the future....let me know. I know that there have been two presidential debates so far, and McCain wandered aimlessly around the stage like it was taking precious "racist baiting" time from him. Lets see.....have to talk facts on one hand....go whip a racist, frenzied crowd up with Buffy the VP slayer. Hmm.
Education isn't a dirty word. I want the smartest person to be in the WH. John and Sarah's emotional provocations are not policy, though they are reminiscent of dictators trying to keep their grip on power by any means necessary.

Posted by: SYWanda | October 10, 2008 11:26 AM | Report abuse

Herbert Hoover's campaign slogan: "A chicken in every pot."

John McCain's campaign slogan: "A chick and a crackpot."

Posted by: hamishdad | October 10, 2008 11:16 AM | Report abuse

One wonders why Obama, so tight(allegedly)with his homie Ayers, didn't name Ayers as his running mate.

If this is all McPalin and the RNC have left, Obama is probably looking at 320-350 electoral college votes.

But don't despair righties, if Obama and the Dems over reach(and they probably will)the country can always restore GOP control to one or both legislative bodies in 2011.

It's called DEMOCRACY.

But listening to some of the rather hysterical commentary coming out of these McPalin rallies, I wonder what country these folks think they're living in. Because it sure as h*ll ain't the one where Tom Delay asserted there'd be a permanent Republican majority.

Grow up, and deal with it.

Posted by: mathas | October 10, 2008 11:00 AM | Report abuse

There once was a case to made for voting Republican for President, to counter-balance Democrat's control of Congress.

But with McCain showing his age and Palin eager to take over, that is an option Americans can no longer afford!

Posted by: quatzecoutl | October 10, 2008 10:38 AM | Report abuse

There once was a case to made for voting Republican for President, to counter-balance Democrat's control of Congress.

But with McCain showing his age and Palin eager to take over, that is an option Americans can no longer afford!

Posted by: quatzecoutl | October 10, 2008 10:31 AM | Report abuse

I am over 60 and I have understood for a long time that Washington works best when one party controls Congress and the other party has the president.
With the GOP scratching the bottom of the barrel with Bush and McCain, this just isn't the case any more.

Posted by: WDRussell | October 10, 2008 9:09 AM | Report abuse

Irony Does Reveal Truth This Article was published on Sept 11 a few hours before the attacks.


THE QUESTION IS OBAMA'S JUDGEMENT WHEN OBAMA WAS IN HIS 30s WHY DID OBAMA CHOOSE TO BE THIS PERSON'S FRIEND WHEN OBAMA WAS AN ADULT ??


IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH OBAMA WHEN HE WAS 8 YEARS OLD.


OBAMA HAS BEEN LYING ABOUT HIS RELATIONSHIP WITH AYERS - CLINTON WAS A LIAR TOO. (CONVICTED LIAR)


No Regrets for a Love Of Explosives; In a Memoir of Sorts, a War Protester Talks of Life With the Weathermen


By DINITIA SMITH
Published: September 11, 2001

''I don't regret setting bombs,'' Bill Ayers said. ''I feel we didn't do enough.'' Mr. Ayers, who spent the 1970's as a fugitive in the Weather Underground, was sitting in the kitchen of his big turn-of-the-19th-century stone house in the Hyde Park district of Chicago.

The long curly locks in his Wanted poster are shorn, though he wears earrings. He still has tattooed on his neck the rainbow-and-lightning Weathermen logo that appeared on letters taking responsibility for bombings. And he still has the ebullient, ingratiating manner, the apparently intense interest in other people, that made him a charismatic figure in the radical student movement.

Now he has written a book, ''Fugitive Days'' (Beacon Press, September). Mr. Ayers, who is 56, calls it a memoir, somewhat coyly perhaps, since he also says some of it is fiction.

He writes that he participated in the bombings of New York City Police Headquarters in 1970, of the Capitol building in 1971, the Pentagon in 1972. But Mr. Ayers also seems to want to have it both ways, taking responsibility for daring acts in his youth, then deflecting it.

''Is this, then, the truth?,'' he writes. ''Not exactly. Although it feels entirely honest to me.''
But why would someone want to read a memoir parts of which are admittedly not true? Mr. Ayers was asked.

''Obviously, the point is it's a reflection on memory,'' he answered. ''It's true as I remember it.''

Mr. Ayers is probably safe from prosecution anyway. A spokeswoman for the Justice Department said there was a five-year statute of limitations on Federal crimes except in cases of murder or when a person has been indicted.

Mr. Ayers, who in 1970 was said to have summed up the Weatherman philosophy as: ''Kill all the rich people. Break up their cars and apartments. Bring the revolution home, kill your parents, that's where it's really at,'' is today distinguished professor of education at the University of Illinois at Chicago. And he says he doesn't actually remember suggesting that rich people be killed or that people kill their parents, but ''it's been quoted so many times I'm beginning to think I did,'' he said. ''It was a joke about the distribution of wealth.''

He went underground in 1970, after his girlfriend, Diana Oughton, and two other people were killed when bombs they were making exploded in a Greenwich Village town house. With him in the Weather Underground was Bernardine Dohrn, who was put on the F.B.I.'s 10 Most Wanted List. J. Edgar Hoover called her ''the most dangerous woman in America'' and ''la Pasionara of the Lunatic Left.'' Mr. Ayers and Ms. Dohrn later married.

In his book Mr. Ayers describes the Weathermen descending into a ''whirlpool of violence.''

''Everything was absolutely ideal on the day I bombed the Pentagon,'' he writes. But then comes a disclaimer: ''Even though I didn't actually bomb the Pentagon -- we bombed it, in the sense that Weathermen organized it and claimed it.'' He goes on to provide details about the manufacture of the bomb and how a woman he calls Anna placed the bomb in a restroom. No one was killed or injured, though damage was extensive.

Between 1970 and 1974 the Weathermen took responsibility for 12 bombings, Mr. Ayers writes, and also helped spring Timothy Leary (sentenced on marijuana charges) from jail.

Posted by: 37thandOStreet | October 10, 2008 8:50 AM | Report abuse

Watch the debate outtakes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YA3xIEes6Q4
watchdebate.com

Posted by: pastor123 | October 10, 2008 7:21 AM | Report abuse

Watch McCain Drop the F- Bomb, The F- Word over and over to a reporter. I think he is losing it.
http://www.mccanes.com

See Obama Call out McCain, http://www.theobamaplan.com

Posted by: pastor123 | October 10, 2008 7:09 AM | Report abuse

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The Solution to the Economic Crisis is NOT to place a former cocaine user like Obama in charge of the World's Largest Economy.


Are you completely insane?


Voted One Of The Nation's Top 5 Political Blogs For The Election Of 2008:


http://www.myspace.com/37thandostreet


Bookmark It Now !!!!

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The Solution to the Economic Crisis is NOT to place a former cocaine user in charge of the World's Largest Economy.


Are you completely insane?


Voted One Of The Nation's Top 5 Political Blogs For The Election Of 2008:


http://www.myspace.com/37thandostreet


Bookmark It Now !!!!

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Posted by: 37thandOStreet | October 10, 2008 5:24 AM | Report abuse

THE RNC.....I JUST DON'T UNDESTAND HOW THEY GET AWAY WITH ALL THIS

From 'fact of the matter'
http://www.need4trth.blogspot.com

THIS IS NEED4TRTH AND THIS IS AN ALERT.....

The New york times is following up on a story of about 6 swing states which are attempting to purge ten's of thousands of newly registered democrat voters from there voting rolls. The times states that these purges seem to be illegal and that some of these states are using social security numbers illegally to do this.

HERE IS A PORTION OF THE PIECE FROM THE NY TIMES

Tens of thousands of eligible voters in at least six swing states have been removed from the rolls or have been blocked from registering in ways that appear to violate federal law, according to a review of state records and Social Security data by The New York Times.....

Still, because Democrats have been more aggressive at registering new voters this year, according to state election officials, any heightened screening of new applications may affect their party’s supporters disproportionately. The screening or trimming of voter registration lists in the six states — Colorado, Indiana, Ohio, Michigan, Nevada and North Carolina — could also result in problems at the polls on Election Day: people who have been removed from the rolls are likely to show up only to be challenged by political party officials or election workers, resulting in confusion, long lines and heated tempers.

Some states allow such voters to cast provisional ballots. But they are often not counted because they require added verification.

Although much attention this year has been focused on the millions of new voters being added to the rolls by the candidacy of Senator Barack Obama, there has been far less notice given to the number of voters being dropped from those same rolls.
The six swing states seem to be in violation of federal law in two ways. Michigan and Colorado are removing voters from the rolls within 90 days of a federal election, which is not allowed except when voters die, notify the authorities that they have moved out of state, or have been declared unfit to vote.

Indiana, Nevada, North Carolina and Ohio seem to be improperly using Social Security data to verify registration applications for new voters.
In addition to the six swing states, three more states appear to be violating federal law. Alabama and Georgia seem to be improperly using Social Security information to screen registration applications from new voters. And Louisiana appears to have removed thousands of voters after the federal deadline for taking such action.


THE TIMES PIECE SAYS THIS.......


The actions do not seem to be coordinated by one party or the other....

Hmmmmm, I'd have to beg to differ on that point. Three weeks ago on the Tom Hartman program on green 960, the guest host broke this story and it was reported that this was a coordinated effort by the RNC and John McCains campaign. The Mccain campaign were sending out millions of mailers of absentee ballots to none other than newly registered Barack Obama supporters, especially African Americans, these mailers were, in some cases, confusing, had the wrong addressess to send the absontee ballots to the wrong district offices, which is CLEAR EVIDENCE of nothing more than ILLEGAL FEDERAL CRIMES, AND 'JIM CROW' dirty tricks.

HUGE QUESTION NOT BEING ANSWERED, WHY AREN'T THE MAJOR NETWORKS TAKING THESE REPORTS ON?

I think it is fair to say this now, When the 'racially tinged distraction' of the Rev. Jeremiah Wright broke, the MAJOR NETWORKS CARRIED THESE STORIES FOR WEEKS...hour after hour day after day....They used this storie to condemn Senator Barack Obama and they literally held a public lynching of the Rev. Jeremiah Wright. He was tried and convicted in the MAJOR CORPORATE MEDIA. Yet, a storie of such GREAT IMPORTANCE.....THEY ARE IGNORING....The MAJOR CORPORATE MEDIA IS IN ON THIS AND IT IS A COORDINATED EFFORT TO ELECT the ERRACTIC, SENSELESS, WARMONGERER Senator John McCain and Gov. Sarah Palin, who is under LEGISLATIVE INVESTIGATION FOR ETHICAL MISDOINGS....A criminal. The CORPORATE MEDIA IS LITERALLY SUPPRESSING THIS Story...

NETWORKS AREN'T DOING ENOUGH.....

Instead, FOX NEWS IS COORDINATING AND HONING IN ALL THEIR MAJOR EFFORTS in trying to recover from Sean Hannity's BEING EXPOSED OF HAVING AN ANTI-SEMETIC HATE MONGER ON HIS SHOW AND GIVING THAT PLATFORM A VOICE......

Posted by: need4trth | October 10, 2008 1:24 AM | Report abuse

On CNN tonight Republican commentator Ed Rollins said that unless McCain cleans-up his campaign that the Republicans could lose TEN Senate seats in the election! It seems that the internal GOP polling is even worse for them than the public polls.

Posted by: Byron5 | October 9, 2008 11:26 PM | Report abuse

37th:

"Voted One Of The Nation's Top 5 Political Blogs For The Election Of 2008," you say?

And you think I should "Bookmark It Now !!!!" = ?

Are you completely insane

Posted by: bokonon13 | October 9, 2008 11:08 PM | Report abuse

Its a pity. Capitalism (GM, Ford, GE and small entrepeneurs putting country and profit as their goals), the backbone of GOP in the past and the strength of our country has gradually been replaced by the neo-Capitalism (Enron, Financial institutions, huge military connected industries whose emphasies are on "me me me" in terms of renumeration and country be damned). To regain its status, it has to get rid of this kind of lobbyist and party "strategist" . The good thing is, just like the hanger ons of Muhammad Ali and Joe Louis, they will make themselves scarce, once the party lost power. In this aspect I feel more sorry for Bush rather than apportioning blames for his actions. Democrats - beware!

I have no doubt that capitalism is far superior to communism towards the economic growth of a country. I think that capitalism embodied with a sense of responsibility to the society and patriotism would be the ideal process. Let us just hope that the elected leader of the USA can avoid these lobbyist and put the country back on track.

Posted by: nagamas1 | October 9, 2008 11:05 PM | Report abuse

Soon every GOP politician facing an election in a light blue or pink state will be will be running away from McCain/Palin as fast as they can--it is their only hope.

This election will be another round in the continuing purge of moderates from the GOP. If these poll numbers hold up, the GOP will be reduced to a regional party for a time, something like the Democrats from the 1860s to the 1930s, and will become a party that is even more thoroughly dominated by its Palinesque "base".

This could be a transformative election, given the likely massive mobilization of previously disenfranchised voters. Obama and his team will then see to it that the Federal government encourages further registration and prevents voter suppression (the last hope of political scoundrels). The mobilization will become less a movement than an institution, but all the more effective for it.

The Obama machine has the potential to become an enduring and powerful part of the political landscape: 10 years is very possible; 20 if Obama is half as successful at governing as Clinton.

Turns out that being a community organizer is a lot like being a mayor after all, except when you are as good at it as Obama, they call you Mr. President.

Posted by: ThoughtBot | October 9, 2008 10:42 PM | Report abuse

The utter destruction of the Republicans (not that I serious think it could happen) wouldn't result in a one-party system. There has always been 2 opposing parties in the USA--actually, they aren't parties as the term is used in most countries. They are two permanent, flexible, free-floating coalitions. If the official structure of one were so damaged it couldn't go on, a new entity would arise very shortly afterward to take its place. It is this unique situation that both limits the effectiveness and ensures the lasting safe permanence of our political system.

Posted by: Budikavlan | October 9, 2008 10:41 PM | Report abuse

You can tell when someone doesn't have the truth on their side, when they repost their comment over and over.

Republicans decided to destroy their enemies and this country when they pulled a coup on this country in 2000. They have spent 8 years destroying our economy, our reputation, and our safety. The party of criminals like Cheney and Nixon.

The party that desperately wants to destroy science and education, and create a country filled with Quale's and Plains.

A criminal like Plain questioning Obama while she is up on corruption charges and defrauds Alaska to Govern from her house. The charity Obama sat on with Ayers was funded by a Reagen friend, and his widow is one of McCain's top contributors. The arrogance, the hypocrisy, is staggering. And the final verdict will be the end of the Neo-Con movement.

Posted by: TooDarkMark | October 9, 2008 10:36 PM | Report abuse

It was the Democrats who all voted down the Senate bills in 2003 and 2005 that would have put controls on these loans.
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What bills were those, sir? What were the bill names and numbers?

Posted by: davidscott1 | October 9, 2008 9:55 PM | Report abuse

While I am a committed Democrat and hope for (yes, even pray earnestly for) a sweeping Dem victory this fall, I DON'T want there to be a total destruction of the Republican party. Agonizing and thorough humiliation for them will suffice. But why not total destruction for those horrid Repubs??

Well, when was the last time you could really admire a one-party government? More to the point, we need THOUGHTFUL conservatives to be foils to some of the THOUGHTLESS radicals that are (admit it!) out there. Of course, I haven't seen a THOUGHTFUL conservative elected to an important national office in some time, but I digress . . . Our country seems to work better when we stay closer to the middle.

I do hope this election proves that the rabid conservative position that government is ALWAYS an irredeemable evil is completely bogus. Read Thomas Frank's _The Wrecking Crew_; it will open your eyes. While "Big Brother" Orwellian government is surely evil, the notion that our government can't be part of the solution must be thrown out along with the greedy incompetents who shoved such toxic stupidity down our throats.

Posted by: post_reader_in_wv | October 9, 2008 9:31 PM | Report abuse

toritto and officermancuso have both written intelligent and thoughtful post - a rare thing on politico!

I too have been thinking about 1932 (OK, my parents were both 3 years old in 1932 - I wasn't there!).

The water has retreated, like the lowest tide ever, and in about four weeks the tsunami is going to hit shire with a power not seen since Roosevelt got elected.

If this is what it takes to get these crooks, goons, pathological lairs, and tinfoil hat wearing, black helicopter seeing wing nuts out of our halls of government, well maybe it'll be worth it. I know that sounds harsh, and a lot of decent people have and will be hurt by this huge slump, but it's time for the grownups to take over. The snarky frat boys have had their day.

Posted by: Jsinaiko | October 9, 2008 8:58 PM | Report abuse

Let me get this straight. The American people will vote into political power the very same party that is primarily responsible for the financial meltdown that we taxpayers have to shell out $700 billion for. It must be nice to have the MSM in your hip pocket, as the Democrats have, in order to sensor all political fallout and blame it on the other party. It was the Democrats who forced the banks to give mortgage loans to people who couldn't pay it back and who threatened the banks with discriminatory law suits if they didn't. It was the Democrats who all voted down the Senate bills in 2003 and 2005 that would have put controls on these loans. It was the Democrats who forced the banks to accept a persons Welfare income and the value of their food stamps as equity to purchase these houses.

Posted by: armpeg | October 9, 2008 8:22 PM | Report abuse

No party ever more richly deserved to get wiped out in an election than today's Republican Party. For too long, pundits have dicussed the GOP as if it just presented an alternative philsophy. That is rubbish.

Robert Reich notes today that the richest 1 percent earned 8 percent of US income in 1980, when the right first took power, and earns 20 percent today. Because of GOP tax cuts for the richest, we have literally borrowed trillions of dollars to redistribute wealth to the those who needed help the least. "What we have here is a form of looting." -- George Akerlof Their policies have had a stunningly racist impact, as help for minorities and the poor are defunded in favor of aid to the rich. Where's the media?

GOP appointees like Scalia, Alito, Thomas and Roberts threaten to shred our environmental laws --- just give Tony the Thug one more extremist Justice and watch what happens. A GOP Senate Majority gave us an Environment Committee Chair who still calls the global warming crisis a hoax (Inhofe).

Today's Republican leaders have proved incompent, corrupt and dangerous. Get them out of power -- these people must be held accountable for what really are crimes against humanity and the Earth.

Posted by: davidscott1 | October 9, 2008 8:12 PM | Report abuse

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The Solution to the Economic Crisis is NOT to place a former cocaine user in charge of the World's Largest Economy.


Are you completely insane?

Voted One Of The Nation's Top 5 Political Blogs For The Election Of 2008:

http://www.myspace.com/37thandostreet

Bookmark It Now !!!!

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Posted by: 37thandOStreet | October 9, 2008 7:07 PM | Report abuse

officermancuso: Thanks for your second nice comment, including the one about grandma.

I'm much too old for office (so is McCain). Besides, grandma was a communist - just think of the smears!!

Posted by: toritto | October 9, 2008 7:06 PM | Report abuse


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The Solution to the Economic Crisis is NOT to place a former cocaine user in charge of thw World's Largest Economy.


Are you completely insane?

Voted One Of The Nation's Top 5 Political Blogs For The Election Of 2008:

http://www.myspace.com/37thandostreet

Bookmark It Now !!!!

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Posted by: 37thandOStreet | October 9, 2008 6:43 PM | Report abuse

Should be shouldnt not should, guess i need to put the straw down...

Posted by: rharring | October 9, 2008 6:38 PM | Report abuse

37thandOStreet,

You are correct we should put a former coke addict in charge, but im sure you voted for Bush anyhow........

Posted by: rharring | October 9, 2008 6:38 PM | Report abuse


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The Solution to the Economic Crisis is NOT to place a former cocaine user in charge of thw World's Largest Economy.


Are you completely insane?

Voted One Of The Nation's Top 5 Political Blogs For The Election Of 2008:

http://www.myspace.com/37thandostreet

Bookmark It Now !!!!

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Posted by: 37thandOStreet | October 9, 2008 6:33 PM | Report abuse

"n Canada, their Conservartive Party was so corrupt, so inept, so self serving, that Canadian voters literally voted it out of existance in the 2002 elections. That Party actually got the message, after lossing virtually every single elected office, and reformed as the Progressive Conservative Party in December of 2003. The Republican Party is on the virge of undergoing a similar revolution."

I suppose we'll see if this happens. I have yet to see Republicans make any kind of ideological change. I don't know this will happen until the current crop of new Dems become complacent and corrupt. That is what happened with the first six years of Bush. Republican lawmakers were more concerned with marching with Bush than with their own performance. As a result, they are getting thrown out. The ideological change will likely come not from the survivors, but from the next generation.

Posted by: DDAWD | October 9, 2008 6:23 PM | Report abuse

At 4:25 PM, Toritto wrote:

"We have been hearing since Reagan that 'Government is the problem'; that government should get 'out of the way'; that the private sector can always do it better and cheaper.

"If one has this philosophy then it is natural to undermine government; to get it 'out of the way'. Conservatives since Reagan have systematically undermined the efficacy of the government by gutting any agency which it views as 'standing in the way'.

"You appoint 'your guys' no matter how incompetent; you oust the professionals; you gut their budgets. You oppose anything which might 'impede' the private sector corporations - consumer protections; food inspections; road and bridge inspection; financial regulations.

"You politicize the Justice Department, so that it finds nothing, even torture, objectionable. Anti-trust enforcement becomes non-existent.

"You never lift a voice or use the bully pulpit against corporations shipping jobs wholesale overseas. Our retailers buy their inventory from China and you ship them our money, never insisting that China adjust its foreign exchange rate. Then you borrow the money back from China to plug our budget deficit, caused by corporate tax cuts and cuts for the top 1% of Americans. You ship the borrowed money to our oil suppliers and oppose any effort to reduce dependency by seeking alternative renewable sources of fuel. After all, you're an oil man.

"You start an unnecessary war costing hundreds of billions of dollars much of it going to favored construction companies doing work shoddy enough to electrocute ten soldiers in their showers. Hired thugs masquerading as 'security details' rake in more of the money, answering to no one. You 'rebuild' Iraq (which we never had to destroy anyway) while the Iraqis have almost $80 billion in the bank.

"You shred the Constitution, abridge habeas corpus. You get elected by selling your 'values' while robbing the country blind. You never talk about economics. You always scare the voters with the next bogeyman around the corner. When the media disagrees with you, you attack it as 'unfair' with 'liberal bias'. You start your own propaganda media outlets that parrot the party line.

"You take the country into a permanent state of war with a volunteer army - a state so permanent no one even notices it anymore as they go to the mall. You ask nothing from them but their acquiescence. 'Just go shopping folks!'

"You want to spend a trillion dollars to rescue the financial sector, run up a half a trillion dollar budget deficit and still spew nonsense about 'small government, deregulation and lower taxes'.

"We are witnessing the impoverishment of America. ....and this Grand Old Party (remember it?) wants four more years."

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I'm not generally a fan of long posts in these comment boxes but *that* is a world-class post and bears repeating.

Toritto, if you're running for office, you've got my vote, and if you're not, you've got my enduring respect.

Posted by: officermancuso | October 9, 2008 6:21 PM | Report abuse

37th and O, as usual, is distorting the truth by listing "facts."

To begin with Obama was President of the Harvard Law Review, which is essentially a first among equals of the 42 or so Editors. Their job is to edit, not write.

You can make a big deal out of the 142 times Obama voted "present" in the Illinois Senate if you want, but that was out of over 4000 votes. Not most of the time, less than 4% of the time. And mostly when the Republicans were in control of that body.

And to the last point, that Senator Obama has not been doing his job as Senator during the campaign, that applies to every candidate to some degree. That OTHER senator running for president has spent a lot less time in the Senate this year, despite the fact that he had his nomination sewn up months earlier.

Posted by: mikeinmidland | October 9, 2008 5:58 PM | Report abuse

I shake my head in wonderment.

Senator McCain and Governor Palin have run a truly dispicable campaign.

:-(

Posted by: toritto | October 9, 2008 5:43 PM | Report abuse

Republicans have earned this thrashing the hard way. They've crashed the world's most powerful military, and the world's most robust economy. They patted each other on the back ("Good job, Brownie") as they proved impotent to marshal the resources of one of the world's great nations to recover from a natural disaster in New Orleans.

They won office largely on the strength of their claim that government generally does things badly. As they leave office, the one thing we know for sure is that the party which espouses that messages most certainly does govern badly.

This is going to be a long-term realigning election. If you want to see what one of those looks like, take a look at Franklin Delano Roosevelt vs. Herbert Hoover, 1932.

Democrats won the White House that year and occupied it for 28 of the next 36 years, with all but two of their presidential victories coming by landslides.

Posted by: officermancuso | October 9, 2008 5:21 PM | Report abuse

amos3_3 - Give us a break! In Canada, their Conservartive Party was so corrupt, so inept, so self serving, that Canadian voters literally voted it out of existance in the 2002 elections. That Party actually got the message, after lossing virtually every single elected office, and reformed as the Progressive Conservative Party in December of 2003. The Republican Party is on the virge of undergoing a similar revolution. The Party of Lincoln and Reagan was taken over by a collection of NeoMarxist big government, big brother, big business, fanatics and crooks that misled this country to ruin. Now, that Party and all of it's members need to pay the price for that, be consigned to the garbage heap. In time, genuine conservatives will step forward and create something new from those ruins that might actually serve as a loyal opposition or, even, regain leadership. As it stands right now, however, the Republican Party stands for nothing of worth and needs to be ruthlessly destroyed by both the voters and those few genuine conservatives remaining.

Posted by: mibrooks27 | October 9, 2008 5:16 PM | Report abuse

THE Admiral SON.

In Oct. 26, 1967, the admiral's son while flying his 23rd mission over North Vietnam, once again fell from the sky, this time landing in the hands of a brutal enemy. He was beaten and bayoneted. His shoulder was smashed and his right calf was nearly perpendicular to his knee.
The severely wounded McCain was finally thrown on the back of a truck and hauled to the infamous Hanoi Hilton prison camp. Immediately, his captors began to interrogate him using sadistic methods they had perfected on hundreds of captured U.S. servicemen before him.

His interrogators demanded military information. When he refused, his guards kicked and pounded him mercilessly.
McCain admits that three to four days after he was captured, he promised the Vietnamese, "I'll give you military information if you will take me to the hospital."
McCain also admits that the Vietnamese rushed him to a hospital, but denies he was given "special medical treatment" because of his promise.
He claims he was given medical care normally unavailable to captured Americans only because the Vietnamese learned he was the son of Admiral John S. McCain, Jr., the soon-to-be commander of all U.S. forces in the Pacific including those fighting in Vietnam.

The Vietnamese figured that because POW McCain's father was of such high military rank that he was of royalty or the governing circle in the United States. Thereafter the communist bragged that they had captured "the crown prince"and treated him as a "special prisoner."

Less than two weeks after McCain was taken to a hospital, Hanoi's press began quoting him giving specific military information, including the name of the aircraft carrier on which he was based, numbers of U.S. pilots that had been lost, the number of aircraft in his flight, information about location of rescue ships and the order of which his attack was supposed to take place.
There is also evidence that McCain received "special" medical treatment from a Soviet physician.

After he was out of the hospital, McCain continued cooperating with the North Vietnamese for a period of three years. He made radio broadcasts for the communists and met with foreign delegations, including the Cubans. He was interviewed by at least two North Vietnamese generals one of whom was Vietnam's national hero, General Vo Nguyen Giap.

On June 4, 1969, a U.S. wire service story headlined "PW Songbird Is Pilot Son of Admiral," reported one of McCain's radio broadcasts: "Hanoi has aired a broadcast in which the pilot son of the United States commander in the Pacific, Adm. John McCain, purportedly admits to having bombed civilian targets in North Vietnam and praises medical treatment he has received since being taken prisoner.
McCain says he violated the Code of Conduct only when the North Vietnamese brutally tortured him. He further claims that he was so distraught afterwards that he tried to commit suicide. He has never explained why his "aid to the enemy" continued for more than three years.

Even though there are no reports in the public record from other POWs who witnessed McCain's claims of torture and heroics or his attempted suicide, the American media has accepted his version of events word for word, no questions asked.

Yet, the same press that transformed the admiral's son into an "incredible war hero--an inspiration to all Americans," vilified the two grunts.
Comparing the incidents surrounding the fates of three POWs,' who collaborated with the enemy, makes one question why two faced possible execution for treason, while the third won acclaim as a hero fit to be President of the United States.
Once more, Lady Luck had smiled on John McCain . . . or was it the admiral?


Posted by: popasmoke | October 9, 2008 5:15 PM | Report abuse

Dino Rossi (Republican gubernatorial candidate from Washington State) is trying to cut all ties with the Republican Party. He successfully petitioned the Secretary of State to put "prefers GOP" instead of "R" next to his name on the ballot. A lot of people think GOP means the Democratic Party and even more don't have a clue what it means.

Just goes to show the only way Republicans think they can win is by cutting all ties with their party's terrible image.

Posted by: jamesmcall | October 9, 2008 5:13 PM | Report abuse

JOHN MCCAIN, TRAITOR TO HIS COUNTRY, COLLABORATOR WITH THE ENEMY, MILITARY DISGRACE.
Ted Sampley, a Vietnam Veteran and former Green Beret, issued a CHALLENGE to John McCain "If you can show us that the information presented in our mailer is untruthful . . . we will Stand Down" This CHALLENGE was issued during an interview with INSIDE EDITION on January 17, 2008.
John, family members of Vietnam POW/MIA(s) have been waiting for more then 14 years for you to have the courage to face them eye to eye in front of the American Public - Here is your opportunity for some "STRAIGHT TALK." Stop hiding behind your fabricated "War Hero" persona. You know we can prove your collaborations with declassified government documents . . . It is time for the American people to get to know the REAL John McCain - the John McCain that the POW/MIA families witnessed during the 1991-93 US Senate Select Committee on POW/MIA Affairs .
Bring It On John! HERE IS OUR NUMBER 252-527-0442
*********** ************* ************** *********** ***********
Activists accused McCain of stonewalling the release of POW records because they contained evidence he had collaborated with the North Vietnamese.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MUY9S6iCvk

Posted by: popasmoke | October 9, 2008 5:11 PM | Report abuse

Its the Bush STOCK MARKET CRASH_Depression Stupid.......

Posted by: grandstreetfund | October 9, 2008 5:11 PM | Report abuse

VOTE DEMOCRATIC ACROSS THE BOARD, CUT THEM OFF AT THE KNEES. LEAVE NO REPUBLICANS STANDING WHEN THIS IS OVER. TOTAL DESTRUCTION ON THE REPUBLICAN PARTY.

EMAILS ARE CIRCULATING ALL OVER THE PLACE AND I CAN TELL YOU I KNOW NO ONE WHO WILL BE VOTING FOR ANY REPUBLICANS AND I DON'T CARE WHO THE PERSON IS.

MCCAIN WHO IS A PATHETIC LITTLE TROLL AND A TRAITOR TO HIS COUNTRY (DOCUMENTED) AND HIS STOOGE PALIE WILL LOSE AND LEAVE THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IN THE GARBAGE WHERE IT BELONGS FOR MANY YEARS TO COME.


Posted by: popasmoke | October 9, 2008 5:10 PM | Report abuse

'If the Democrats win the Whitehouse and Congress, America will fall so quickly, no one will realize it until it is too late. If the Repulicans lose out, they must take their stand on principals. America will get what the American people want. We are in the 'last days' as most understand."

How chilling to know that people like this live in my country. I don't know what you are advocating, my friend, but newsflash--America has already fallen. America is very quickly getting flushed down the toilet with a sinking economic system. You don't know ho bad it's going to get. And the 'last days' -- what to say.

Posted by: drindl | October 9, 2008 5:07 PM | Report abuse

IT'S the END of The GREEDY OIL PARTY AS WE KNOW IT ...and I feel fine!!!


"Our economy is structurally sound for the long term"
George W Bush - Feb 11, 2008


"The American people can remain confident in the soundness and the resilience of our financial system"
Henry Paulson - Sept 15, 2008


"The fundamentals of our economy are strong"
John McCain - Sept 15, 2008


"The economy is fundamentally sound"
Herbert Hoover - October, 1931


McCain does not have the ability to fix this economic crisis. After declaring the fundamentals of the economy strong, he created a political circus in Washington last week by mucking up bailout negotiations; a deplorable stunt, considering he and his political cronies helped cause the current meltdown.


It was McCain and his economic adviser Phil Gramm who pushed for the deregulation that helped lead to the banking crisis, and it was McCain's crony Rick Davis who had deep lobbyist ties to Freddie Mac. Don't let others be fooled by McCain's economic grandstanding because the reality is his policies and principles will only exacerbate our financial hardships.


McCain is being deceitful with his sudden populist message and support for regulation; his economic policies still favor our nation's wealthy elite.


Here's some mavericky straight-talk, my friends:
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http://bravenewfilms.org/blog/55310-john-mccain-economic-disaster

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Posted by: DrainYou | October 9, 2008 5:06 PM | Report abuse

Their legacy is slowly turning from hate of muslims to hate of Americans. Republicans are now calling for the killing of a Presidential candidate and trying to brand him a terrorist. Classic hate and racist mantras of old starting to resurface. The thing is Mc Cain and Palin are inciting a riot no less. The implications of their rhetoric could severely harm an individual or cause some unstable people in their party to act on such hate. This is truely sad they went the hateful route, because the same hate mongers no doubt may pay consequences with this kind of added racial tension should the election be stolen or percieved so from Obama by racists or should that perception be reversed and Obama wins narrowly and Mc Cain followers feel like they have been stolen from in some way.. Should One of Mc Cains followers take that advice of killing Mr. Obama it would be a horrible day incited by Mc Cain and Palin themselves. Either way they creating a toxic atmosphere that Republicans for all of their misgivings would end their era of reign with another massive failure of dividing Americans on hate issues and culminating their utter failure with a potential disaster costing lives taken by other Americans.

Posted by: acbasurto | October 9, 2008 5:05 PM | Report abuse

Bush should resign now before the dow goes zero

and no Mounty with LipStick and an Old Dipstick will get us out of this mess...

Posted by: grandstreetfund | October 9, 2008 5:03 PM | Report abuse

If the Democrats win the Whitehouse and Congress, America will fall so quickly, no one will realize it until it is too late. If the Repulicans lose out, they must take their stand on principals. America will get what the American people want. We are in the 'last days' as most understand. I cannot as a Christian vote for 'abortion' and 'same sex marriages' as mandated by the Democratic Party Platform. Even my vote for Chet Edwards, is a vote for 'abortion' and 'same sex marriage'. I would rather have an inexpeienced republican in his place then to lower my own personal standards. One day I will have to face my Maker and give an account of all my actions in this life.

God bless America, George W. Bush and the US Marines

Posted by: amos3_3 | October 9, 2008 5:01 PM | Report abuse

If the Democrats win the Whitehouse and Congress, America will fall so quickly, no one will realize it until it is too late. If the Repulicans lose out, they must take their stand on principals. America will get what the American people want. We are in the 'last days' as most understand. I cannot as a Christian vote for 'abortion' and 'same sex marriages' as mandated by the Democratic Party Platform. Even my vote for Chet Edwards, is a vote for 'abortion' and 'same sex marriage'. I would rather have an inexpeienced republican in his place then to lower my own personal standards. One day I will have to face my Maker and give an account of all my actions in this life.

God bless America, George W. Bush and the US Marines

Posted by: amos3_3 | October 9, 2008 4:58 PM | Report abuse

Odinga is Obama's supposed cousin. He's seen here campaigning for Odinga in Kenya (possibly on OUR tax dollars)Was what you see here encouraged by Obama? Is this why James Carville warned of a terrible thing happening here in America if Obama loses?
copy and paste to view this shocking video

www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8QcpdUtxNQ

Posted by: LadySmth | October 9, 2008 4:58 PM | Report abuse

The GOP is leaving a legacy of war, death, hatred, and socialism. They should be branded with hot irons on election day. ....... http://thefiresidepost.com/2008/10/09/the-gop-legacy-wars-death-hatred-socialism/

Posted by: glclark4750 | October 9, 2008 4:54 PM | Report abuse

General Motors closed at its lowest level since 1950.

$4.76

:-(

Posted by: toritto | October 9, 2008 4:54 PM | Report abuse

torritto asks the interesting question:
"..if McSame loses, will St. Sarah of the Snows become the leader of the Grand Old Party?"

I have my money on The Newt. Gov Palin may be kept around as a figurehead, but the idea man behind the scenes is likely to be The Newt. Also look for Romney to make a power play; Huckabee & Pawlenty will likely be striving for a piece of the action, but lack the cutthroated nature it will take to take control of the GOP.

Posted by: bsimon1 | October 9, 2008 4:51 PM | Report abuse

There are a lot of prejudicial posts and again lies. This is why people give blogging a bad name.

It just makes these people look like they have less-than stellar gray matter.

This is a major historic time of all proportion. The crisis are incredible, economic tumble, environmental crisis, energy crisis, our country needs retooling for the 21st century as well as our American workforce and healthcare. The population is rebelling and is kicking the bums out. Republicans whose party has lost any sense of meaning or vision and is left with only the right of right elite and evangelicals, must find a new way forward.
They are being abandoned and this election will show a new world potential.

At least in this convergent time, Obama will become president and hire the brightest and wisest- regardless of party- of our nation to fill his cabinet and replace the incompetent Bush cronies throughout the government. He will have an international goodwill window to get some things done- although it won't last, it is still a window. Our constitution and rule of law will be restored and qualified people put on the Supreme Court.

Posted by: lucy2008 | October 9, 2008 4:48 PM | Report abuse

Dow fell 675 down to 8,579.

Posted by: toritto | October 9, 2008 4:44 PM | Report abuse

Just think about it for a minute...

..if McSame loses, will St. Sarah of the Snows become the leader of the Grand Old Party?

Like....the party of Lincoln? Of Teddy?

St. Sarah?

U betcha!

(God help us all)

Posted by: toritto | October 9, 2008 4:40 PM | Report abuse

The GOP is going to spend a generation in the wilderness as the Dems did after 1968. Between now 2012 and several cycles after that, the GOPs natural instinct will be, "we aren't pure enough to entice the voters. We need to purge the party of the moderate apostates. Then we will win."

I've never understood how any political party, Dem or GOP, thinks that by being smaller they can win a majority. It defies common sense, but then again I don't do politics are a profession.

Posted by: Roofelstoon | October 9, 2008 4:40 PM | Report abuse

By the way, The Fix selected an excellent image to accompany the article. Nice touch.

Posted by: bsimon1 | October 9, 2008 4:39 PM | Report abuse

It occurs to me as a mostly democrat that had the Republicans been a little more moderate with their ideology and revenge legislations when they had things all their way, we might not be getting this intense reactivity now. I would encourage the democrats not to make the same mistake but to follow as much moderation and bipartisanship, just taking the wisdom from each side and sluff off the corruption. That will bring a new day in America. Be wise, be fair, be forward thinking, be inclusive. There is even more wisdom out there to mine as there are other parties with great ideas, there's Ralph Nader, Ron Paul, and even though Bob Barr has gone Libertarian he feels more Republican to me, with Ron Paul the perfect Libertarian thinker (to my little window on it all). So with the democrats being swept back in now on history's wave, on the pendulum swing, it will be best for our country and children and future and national civility and happiness to be moderate, fair, inclusive, bipartisan, unlike the Republican ideologues who are now represented by Palin and those who want her to lead.

Posted by: GaiasChild | October 9, 2008 4:35 PM | Report abuse

Thank God Obama is really pulling ahead. We don't need a dangerously unhinged man like McCain in the WH:

Writing for the Daily Beast, Michael Kinsley relays a disturbing story about John McCain from Jeff Dearth, former publisher of the New Republic, when Dearth and McCain attended a magazine industry conference at a casino hotel in Puerto Rico in 2005:

McCain's game is craps. So is Jeff Dearth's. Jeff was at the table when McCain showed up and happily made room for him. Apparently there is some kind of rule or tradition in craps that everyone's hands are supposed to be above the table when the dice are about to be thrown. McCain--"very likely distracted by one of the many people who approached him that evening," Jeff says charitably--apparently was violating this rule. A small middle-aged woman at the table, apparently a "regular," reached out and pulled McCain's arm away. I'll let Jeff take over the story:

"McCain immediately turned to the woman and said between clenched teeth: 'DON'T TOUCH ME.' The woman started to explain...McCain interrupted her: 'DON'T TOUCH ME,' he repeated viciously. The woman again tried to explain. 'DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM? DO YOU KNOW WHO YOU'RE TALKING TO?' McCain continued, his voice rising and his hands now raised in the 'bring it on' position. He was red-faced. By this time all the action at the table had stopped. I was completely shocked. McCain had totally lost it, and in the space of about ten seconds. 'Sir, you must be courteous to the other players at the table,' the pit boss said to McCain. "DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM? ASK ANYBODY AROUND HERE WHO I AM."

This being Puerto Rico, the pit boss might not have known McCain. But the senator continued in full fury--"DO YOU KNOW WHO YOU'RE TALKING TO? DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM?"--and crisis was avoided only when Jeff offered to change places and stand between McCain and the woman who had touched his arm.

Posted by: drindl | October 9, 2008 4:34 PM | Report abuse

zouk asks
"how come Libs can get away with "not Bush" as their only policy but Repubs are criticized for trying out "Not Obama"."

Ask Senator Kerry how well the 'not Bush' campaign worked out. Perhaps in 2012 'not Obama' will be more fruitful.

Posted by: bsimon1 | October 9, 2008 4:33 PM | Report abuse

The miserable, paranoid little man, Nixon, embraced the Southern White racists who fled the D-party after the passage of the Civil Rights Amendment. The Southern demagogues insisted that passage would mean the "Government" would force mixed marriages, which in those days included different religions). Ever since that embrace of the 'Dark Side", the Republican party has become more and more reactionary, angry, hostile.

Now, after more than 25 years of anti-government, racist, extremist right-wing religion pandering, the Republican party has done more damage to the greatest nation on earth than any foreign adversary. Their failed policies, failed ideology, failed politics have finally caught up to them. Their new leader, Moose-hunt Barbie, will rally the most extreme of them (just like Reagan after Goldwater) and use them as a power base to further her own political career.

The Republican party will spend 40 years in the political wilderness for worshiping false idols. Palin will be a great guide.

Posted by: thebobbob | October 9, 2008 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Rothenberg's (and Cook's) prediction is not surprising, given the fact that Obama is polling ahead of McCain in places like NC, VA and CO. People are angry about this financial mess, and the total incompetency of the Bush adminstration. And McCain's erratic behavior and jingoistic campaigning with Palin further drags down what's left of the Republican image. This is certainly a change election and the Republican party will need to change or they'll be in the wilderness for the next few election cycles...

Posted by: RickJ | October 9, 2008 4:32 PM | Report abuse

how come Libs can get away with "not Bush" as their only policy but Repubs are criticized for trying out "Not Obama".

Posted by: king_of_zouk | October 9, 2008 4:30 PM | Report abuse

They deserve to lose their seats when Mccain lose the election. Since Mccain is so interested in Character why don't he question Sarah Palins character, she's the one under investigation.

Posted by: amosdefnails | October 9, 2008 4:30 PM | Report abuse

Finally someone wrote what I've been saying since the '06 election. I think our House gain will top 30 though. Smartly, he even recognized the third one to come in two years. God is good.
Jimmy Dunphy

Posted by: jdunph1 | October 9, 2008 4:29 PM | Report abuse

David Frum has some sound advice for his party at the Nat'l Review:

http://frum.nationalreview.com

"We conservatives are sending a powerful, inadvertent message with this negative campaign against Barack Obama's associations and former associations: that we lack a positive agenda of our own and that we don’t care about the economic issues that are worrying American voters."


I couldn't have said it better myself. Perhaps by 2012 the GOP will know what they stand for & explain it to the voters.

Posted by: bsimon1 | October 9, 2008 4:27 PM | Report abuse

We have been hearing since Reagan that "Government is the problem"; that government should get "out of the way"; that the private sector can always do it better and cheaper.

If one has this philosophy then it is natural to undermine government; to get it "out of the way". Conservatives since Reagan have systematically undermined the efficacy of the government by gutting any agency which it views as "standing in the way".

You appoint "your guys" no matter how incompetent; you oust the professionals; you gut their budgets. You oppose anything which might "impede" the private sector corporations - consumer protections; food inspections; road and bridge inspection; financial regulations.

You politicize the Justice Department, so that it finds nothing, even torture, objectionable. Anti-trust enforcement becomes non-existent.

You never lift a voice or use the bully pulpit against corporations shipping jobs wholesale overseas. Our retailers buy their inventory from China and you ship them our money, never insisting that China adjust its foreign exchange rate. Then you borrow the money back from China to plug our budget deficit, caused by corporate tax cuts and cuts for the top 1% of Americans. You ship the borrowed money to our oil suppliers and oppose any effort to reduce dependency by seeking alternative renewable sources of fuel. After all, you're an oil man.

You start an unnecessary war costing hundreds of billions of dollars much of it going to favored construction companies doing work shoddy enough to electrocute ten soldiers in their showers. Hired thugs masquerading as "security details" rake in more of the money, answering to no one. You "rebuild" Iraq (which we never had to destroy anyway) while the Iraqis have almost $80 billion in the bank.

You shred the Constitution, abridge habeas corpus. You get elected by selling your "values" while robbing the country blind. You never talk about economics. You always scare the voters with the next bogeyman around the corner. When the media disagrees with you, you attack it as "unfair" with "liberal bias". You start your own propaganda media outlets that parrot the party line.

You take the country into a permanent state of war with a volunteer army - a state so permanent no one even notices it anymore as they go to the mall. You ask nothing from them but their acquiescence. "Just go shopping folks!"

You want to spend a trillion dollars to rescue the financial sector, run up a half a trillion dollar budget deficit and still spew nonsense about "small government, deregulation and lower taxes".

We are witnessing the impoverishment of America. ....and this Grand Old Party (remember it?) wants four more years.

Posted by: toritto | October 9, 2008 4:25 PM | Report abuse

Perhaps when the evangelicals get tired of the lies and hate they will do the Christian thing and abandon the republicans.

Bush will be seen by history as the Herbert Hoover of his time.

McCain will appear on TV as the BIGGEST LOSER !!!!!!!!!

Sarah Palin will be the butt of political jokes for the rest of her life !!!!!!!

They'll have to change the name of the Republican party because no one will want to be associated with the party that was so craven and incompentent that it got us into this awful mess in only 8 years.

Posted by: rb-freedom-for-all | October 9, 2008 4:24 PM | Report abuse

"it will be a repub majority again for decades."

Ah, yes. The Permanent Republican Majority returns. I, for one, am amused that such talk continues. Keep up the good work!

In all seriousness, I look forward to the Republicans regaining their senses and kicking the social conservatives out of the party. Bring back real fiscal responsibility and you might pick up some supporters.

Posted by: bsimon1 | October 9, 2008 4:21 PM | Report abuse

THE DEMISE OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY OF HATE!!!


We are witnessing the implosion of a Republican party that has run on hate, fear, and division for the past 30+ years. It's always darkest before the dawn, and things will certainly turn ugly--- as is evidenced by the video below. But on November 5th, we will wake up to a new political reality. There will be a massive turnout at the polls by (1) young voters (2) poor voters (3) minority voters and (4) independent/former republican voters who have all chosen to put hope above hate.


The video below scares me.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjxzmaXAg9E
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And it should scare you, too. This is the product of another Republican Presidential campaign (McCain's) that has been built on fear, hate, and ignorance. The people in the video below repeat the same talking points that you can hear on Faux News; the same talking points that have been repeatedly proven false. They have no interest in reality; they have no interest in the truth; they have no interest in the economy, health care, or education. They care about one thing and one thing only: race.


Look at the expressions on these peoples' faces. Look at the visceral reactions. Look at the sheer hatred. That's what this election is about. It's about things like truth, justice, community, and hope triumphing over hate.


Get ready for the implosion. This is, in my view, the end of the Republican party as we know it. It's always darkest before the dawn. In the coming days, the hatred will get even more intense. The attacks from the McCain camp will become even more negative. The Republican talking heads will blanket the airwaves with smears that will make Willie Horton look like child's play.


Since Nixon, the Republican party has utilized a policy of (1) fear mongering (2) hate mongering (3) and voter suppression. They scare up their base; use negative campaigning to make people annoyed and disinterested with politics; then suppress the vote by any means necessary. For the past several decades, this strategy has worked brilliantly. Remember all those "we hate gays" "gay marriage will destroy your family" ballot initiatives from 2004? That was scaring up the base, ratcheting up the hate, and getting out the republican vote. Remember the long voting lines in the ghetto; the bogus "sample ballots" they distributed in poor, democratic neighborhoods; the purging of voter rolls; the road blocks that made it physically impossible to access the polls? That's all part of this same strategy. Stir up the hate, suppress the vote, and the Greedy Oil Party wins again.


But not this time. The politics of hope will triumph over the politics of fear.

Posted by: DrainYou | October 9, 2008 4:08 PM | Report abuse

The libruls are coming!

The libruls are coming!

(Get used to it!)

....and we're going to enjoy making your neo-con, fascist lives miserable.
Everyday in everyway. You're gonna need a lot of Pepto for all that agita.

:-)

Posted by: toritto | October 9, 2008 4:03 PM | Report abuse

37th&Moron - Obama is +11 in the latest Gallup. The more trash you talk, the better he does.

Keep talking.

Posted by: bondjedi | October 9, 2008 3:59 PM | Report abuse

"too bad about the press being so singularly and willfully ignorant."

You aren't counting Rush, Hannity, Townhall, Newsmax, etc. as part of the media. Don't worry - we don't count them either.

Posted by: bondjedi | October 9, 2008 3:58 PM | Report abuse

hey KING ..

don't you mean "THAT ONE"

Posted by: sjxylib | October 9, 2008 3:55 PM | Report abuse

Perhaps it is time for Barack to change strategy and go for the biggest landslide, Presidental and Congressional, (and State wide ballots wherever possible).

It is, of course, just coulda beens, but imagine Hillary running for President and Barrack campaigning to increase the size of HER landslide.

But I'll take BHO any day. He draws good people, listens to them, and acts on what he hears.

Only question remaining will be, will the good Republican pundits accept the results as a real mandate and let Obama be president, or will they try to spin the disaster into a plea for more good conservative principles?

Posted by: ceflynline | October 9, 2008 3:54 PM | Report abuse

37th
Obama was elected the President of the Harvard Law Review, Elected, something most republicans would like to bypass.

Obama was a Civil Rights Attorney.

Obama voted roughly 4000 times in his eight years as a State Senator, 129 times he voted present. It is a procedural vote that says YES with reservations, if there were not enough votes to met quorum, the bill would not pass. Every legislature has its own rules, but i guess you are too thick headed to figure that out.

Afghanistan was an issue that was taken up by the whole committee, so there was no need for his to have a hearing on something that the whole committee would tackle.

Spreading lies and distracts will not prevent Obama from being our next President. You better get used to the fact, because in 26 days it will be President-Elect Obama.

Posted by: sjxylib | October 9, 2008 3:54 PM | Report abuse

37th is a racist little coward and a backbiting sneak thief. Don't expect him to be honest about anything. This treasonous little coward is part of the screeching mob that Palin gins up in one of her daily hysterical frenzies. I used to thinnk he was a paid blogger, but now think he is too stupid, so dumb as to be unable to chew gum and walk at the same time.

Posted by: mibrooks27 | October 9, 2008 3:44 PM | Report abuse

Every now and then the planets align. This is one of those years. Some of us who have opposed this Iraq War from the beginning are just tickled to death - .................
http://thefiresidepost.com/2008/10/08/when-we-oppose-an-american-war/

Posted by: glclark4750 | October 9, 2008 3:43 PM | Report abuse

Stupid, stupid little man with your stupid little cut and paste post - Once again, Senator Obama in his role as President of the Law Review was the EDITOR of the law review. He edited submissions to the review. His job was NOT to write articles, but review and edit them.

And are you stating that Senator Obama's qualifications to enter the Harvard Law class were less than others, and he was accepted because he was a black man? I don't think that was the case.

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | October 9, 2008 3:42 PM | Report abuse

Democrats for John McCain and Sarah Palin in 2008

Posted by: hclark1 | October 9, 2008 3:41 PM | Report abuse

anything that is unfavorable to THE ONE is a distraction. Haven't you figured this out yet.

It is true that the Rs will llsoe some seats in congres this year. but after a quick two years of Dem control, the nation will be beging to right thr ship and it will be a repub majority again for decades.

this assumes that Obama wins the Presidency. If not, the ineffective Libs will continue to blame Repubs for all the evils the Lib congress unleashes on us.

too bad about the press being so singularly and willfully ignorant.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | October 9, 2008 3:40 PM | Report abuse


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A great deal has been said of Obama as head of the Harvard Law Review - however the evidence is that he was voted into that position because the people thought it would be "cool" to have a black in there, not because he was more qualified than the other students.


Having said that, Obama NEVER wrote for the Harvard Law Review.


There is NOT ONE ARTICLE WRITTEN BY OBAMA IN THE HARVARD LAW REVIEW.

There is a pattern of Obama getting positions or jobs through affirmative action and then NOT doing those jobs.


1) First, he took a position in the class at Harvard Law School (from a white student) however Obama NEVER became a lawyer,


2) Obama became head of the Harvard Law Review, however Obama NEVER wrote a law review article.


3) Obama became a State Senator however Obama RARELY voted yes or not, voting present many many times - Emil Jones placed Obama's name on numerous bills which were Emil's work, and Obama took credit for Emil's work because someone decided that Obama was going to be pushed forward.


4) Obama was selected to be the Chairman of the SubCommittee to review NATO's role in Afghanistan however Obama NEVER held any hearings of this SubCommittee.


5) Obama was elected to the US Senator, however instead of doing his job as a Senator Obama went on a book tour and started a campaign for President - HOW MUCH TIME HAS HE REALLY SPENT ACTUALLY BEING A SENATOR ???


Sorry However NONE OF THIS IS IMPRESSIVE. In fact, it is rather sad.

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Posted by: 37thandOStreet | October 9, 2008 3:36 PM | Report abuse

go away look it up yourself

Posted by: 37thandOStreet | October 9, 2008 3:35 PM | Report abuse

What a sad and pathetic little attack, 37th.
Do you have any proof that Obama was made editor for anything other than merit?
Do you have any proof that Obama wrote no articles (including co-writing) for the Review?
Do you have anything at all to say that isn't a shabby and partisan attack on Barack Obama?
If not, then spare the bandwidth. We have real issues to discuss.

Posted by: dbitt | October 9, 2008 3:34 PM | Report abuse

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A great deal has been said of Obama as head of the Harvard Law Review - however the evidence is that he was voted into that position because the people thought it would be "cool" to have a black in there, not because he was more qualified than the other students.


Having said that, Obama NEVER wrote for the Harvard Law Review.


There is NOT ONE ARTICLE WRITTEN BY OBAMA IN THE HARVARD LAW REVIEW.

There is a pattern of Obama getting positions or jobs through affirmative action and then NOT doing those jobs.


1) First, he took a position in the class at Harvard Law School (from a white student) however Obama NEVER became a lawyer,


2) Obama became head of the Harvard Law Review, however Obama NEVER wrote a law review article.


3) Obama became a State Senator however Obama RARELY voted yes or not, voting present many many times - Emil Jones placed Obama's name on numerous bills which were Emil's work, and Obama took credit for Emil's work because someone decided that Obama was going to be pushed forward.


4) Obama was selected to be the Chairman of the SubCommittee to review NATO's role in Afghanistan however Obama NEVER held any hearings of this SubCommittee.


5) Obama was elected to the US Senator, however instead of doing his job as a Senator Obama went on a book tour and started a campaign for President - HOW MUCH TIME HAS HE REALLY SPENT ACTUALLY BEING A SENATOR ???


Sorry However NONE OF THIS IS IMPRESSIVE. In fact, it is rather sad.

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Posted by: 37thandOStreet | October 9, 2008 3:22 PM | Report abuse

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