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Republican presidential candidate Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., greets supporters as he enters a campaign rally at the University of Northern Iowa in Cedar Falls, Iowa, Sunday, Oct. 26, 2008. AP Photo/Stephan Savoia

With each passing day the political outlook seems to worsen for Republicans.

Barack Obama appears to be consolidating his electoral college edge over John McCain while Republicans are playing defense in the Senate and the House. Neutral observers are now predicting Republican losses of eight or more seats in the Senate and 20-plus seats in the House.

Faced with such a dire landscape, David Frum, a former speechwriter for President Bush and now a resident fellow at the American Enterprise Institute, penned an op-ed in the Post's Outlook section on Sunday that made the case that the party must throw McCain over the side to save itself.

Writes Frum:
"In these last days before the vote, Republicans need to face some strategic realities. Our resources are limited, and our message is failing. We cannot fight on all fronts. We are cannibalizing races that we must win and probably can win in order to help a national campaign that is almost certainly lost. In these final 10 days, our goal should be: senators first."

Frum's argument is a simple one. With the White House looking increasingly hard to hold and Democrats headed to a 250-seat (or more) House majority, the lone achievable goal for Republicans is to keep Democrats from a filibuster-proof 60 seat majority in the Senate.

"If we are reduced to just 40 or 41 senators, as could easily happen, Republicans and conservatives could find themselves powerless to stop anything -- and more conservative Democrats would lose bargaining power with the Obama White House," writes Frum.

There is precedent for such a move.

Back in late September 1996, the Republican National Committee -- under the direction of now Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour -- cut spending on presidential nominee Bob Dole's behalf by roughly one-third in an effort to keep Republican control over Congress.

It worked. While Dole lost badly to then PresidentBill Clinton (379 electoral votes for Clinton, 159 for Dole) Republicans held on to their House majority -- although they lost eight seats -- and managed to win two Senate seats.

There's no indication from the current RNC -- led by chairman Mike Duncan -- that such a move is in the offing, however.

"In the final days of this campaign, the RNC is investing significant resources on the best ground game in politics and will help elect Republicans up and down the ticket," said RNC communications director Danny Diaz. "Our ground operation is generating significantly more contacts and identifications than at this point in 2004, and exceeding every single goal and metric."

But, it already appears as though some GOP candidates are taking Frum's advice in terms of messaging. He suggest that the best -- and perhaps only -- winning message for Congressional Republicans boils down to this: "We're almost certainly looking at a Democratic White House. I can work with a Democratic president to help this state. But we need balance in Washington."

As Shalaigh "Shazelle" Murray notes in a piece she wrote for Sunday's Post:

"On the defensive across the country and staring down an election that could see them reduced to an ineffective minority in the House and the Senate, congressional Republicans are offering a new argument to voters: the danger of single-party rule in the nation's capital."

Murray points out that in Senate races in Minnesota and North Carolina, Republican incumbents are using the danger of single-party rule as a talking point in the closing days of the campaign.

McCain himself has begun to raise the specter of unified Democratic control of all levers of government; at a speech this morning in Cleveland, McCain condemned the "spending spree" that Obama, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (Nev.) and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (Calif.) -- a group he called a "dangerous threesome" -- would take the country on if elected.

Will it work? While Americans clearly have favored divided government in the recent past, a Washington Post/ABC News tracking poll late last week showed that 50 percent said it was better for the White House and Congress to be controlled by a single party while 30 percent said they preferred divided government.

In truth, the argument about the perils of single-party control may well be a more powerful case for Republicans to bring to voters in 2010 than it is in the final few days of the 2008 election.

In two years time, Republicans will have actual votes and measures to point to in order to make the case that Obama and the Democratic majorities in Congress have taken the country too far left. It may prove to be a winning argument then even if it fails to save them this time around.

By Chris Cillizza  |  October 28, 2008; 11:30 AM ET
Categories:  Eye on 2008 , Republican Party  
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Its funny to see 37th&OStreet's hysterical and redundant diatribes... attacking Obama as usual... posted in response (so to speak) to an article that accepts Obama's election as virtually inevitable, and focuses on whether Republicans should give that race up, and concentrate on some they might win.

The reader wonders just how far out of touch 37th must be. It seems pretty clear to me that electing McCain, even were that a real option, would be the death knell of the Republican Party in America.

Neither McCain (nor Palin, God forbid) is equipped to resolve the current economic crisis, set im motion by years of bad policy, and compounded by the dreadful fiscal blunders of Bush's adventures, and the horrendous financial burden the government will face during the next president's tenure. Perhaps nobody is.

If so many Americans blame Republican governance for the problems we have now, how much do you suppose those attitudes would harden by 2012, if McCain DID win this election?

Careful what you wish for.

Republicans for Obama!

Posted by: Iconoblaster | October 29, 2008 5:56 PM | Report abuse

"The Borgen Project has some good info on the cost of addressing global poverty.
$30 billion: Annual shortfall to end world hunger.
$540 billion: Annual U.S. Defense Budget."

Posted by: diana9 | October 29, 2008 4:14 PM | Report abuse

"The Borgen Project has some good info on the cost of addressing global poverty.
$30 billion: Annual shortfall to end world hunger.
$540 billion: Annual U.S. Defense Budget."

Posted by: diana9 | October 29, 2008 4:12 PM | Report abuse

Right on, Old Sarge! I agree completely with what you said, just never been able to put it into words. Thank you much!

Posted by: MaG2 | October 29, 2008 2:01 PM | Report abuse

Right on, Old Sarge! I agree completely with what you said, just never been able to put it into words. Thank you much!

Posted by: MaG2 | October 29, 2008 2:01 PM | Report abuse

They should just quit fishin' altogether. The jig's up! We ordinary Americans are sick and tired of the politics of fear waged by the Republican Party and its President. I trust the Blue-Dog Democrats to do a better job of policing the spending than any group of anti-government Republicans. You know, for all their anti-government yapping, the Republican Party has abused the system more than any Democrat...they make the Kingfish himself look like a choir boy.

The Republicans had their chance and royally screwed things up, again, both as legislators and administrators. I would love to see the whole lot of them rounded up and put on trial for malfeasance, abridgment of citizens' constitutional rights, fiduciary failure, and any other charge that can be made to stick. Try them, convict them, strip them of their property, revoke their citizenship, and set them adrift in leaky row boats. Maybe Castro will welcome them or, perhaps, Hugo Chavez. They seem to be cut from the same cloth...laws apply to everyone but themselves.

Posted by: old_sarge | October 29, 2008 1:11 PM | Report abuse

It seems to me like the divided government argument only has a chance of working if either McCain OR congressional candidates use it. As it is, McCain is saying "Vote for me because GOP senators are going to lose" and GOP senators are saying "Vote for us because McCain is going to lose." That's contradictory and won't change anyone's mind.

Posted by: Wilbek | October 29, 2008 12:43 PM | Report abuse

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Response to ArchieHaase at 8:42am:


Its not just Obama's association with Wright, it's that Obama brought his children to a hate-filled Church.


AND he gave the hate Church $20,000.00.


There are many black Churches in Chicago which are not racist and do not promote hate - Obama could have joined one of those Churches, brought his children there and given that Church $20,000.00.


Yes That Makes Obama a RACIST.


It also goes to Obama's judgement, which he lacks.

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Posted by: 37thandOSt | October 29, 2008 9:21 AM | Report abuse

John McCain has been acting erratically ever since he selected Palin for his running mate. When the economy failed his behavior became bizarre. Stresses on any president in the next few years are going to be extreme . They will be fatal for someone in McCain's health and mental state. When he steps down we will then inherit his Palin fiasco.

Now Colin Powell has recognized these facts and has endorsed Obama as being a cool-headed and logical leader who is more fit for the presidency.

Kipling said it best:

If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you
But make allowance for their doubting too,
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, don't deal in lies,
Or being hated, don't give way to hating,
And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise:

If you can dream--and not make dreams your master,
If you can think--and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,

If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
Or walk with Kings---nor lose the common touch,
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
If all men count with you, but none too much:
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds' worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And---which is more---you'll be a Man, my son!


He was talking about men like Obama.


Posted by: seemstome | October 29, 2008 6:24 AM | Report abuse

In the United States, wealth is highly concentrated in a relatively few hands. As of 2001, the top 1% of households (the upper class) owned 33.4% of all privately held wealth, and the next 19% (the managerial, professional, and small business stratum) had 51%, which means that just 20% of the people owned a remarkable 84%, leaving only 16% of the wealth for the bottom 80% (wage and salary workers). In terms of financial wealth, the top 1% of households had an even greater share: 39.7%. Table 1 and Figure 1 present further details drawn from the careful work of economist Edward N. Wolff at New York University (2004).

Obama's tax plan is to return to the progressive form of the Clinton administration which would target to the largest degree the 1 per cent at the top.

Small business owners making 300 thousand would see the smallest increase.

The benefits of this system would take the burden off the Joe the Plumbers who have only 16 per cent of the wealth in this country.


Posted by: seemstome | October 29, 2008 6:15 AM | Report abuse

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If there was a white Presidential candidate who was found to be a member of a racist church, same as the Rev. Wright's church except substitute "white values" for "black values" and visa vera, THE MEDIA WOULD BE IN TOTAL ATTACK MODE AGAINST THAT WHITE CANDIDATE.


OBAMA IS A RACIST - OBAMA HAS GIVE $20,000.00 TO A RACIST CHURCH IN ONE YEAR.


WAKE UP WASHINGTON POST WAKE UP MEDIA.


WAKE UP AMERICA.


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Exactly right he's racist. Just listen to Irreverend Wrong, his pastor for many, many years.


Exactly right he's socialist. Just listen to him admit it to Joe the Plumber, or his interviews in the past.


Exactly right he's a rotten human being. Just look at his abortion voting record.


Exactly right he has questionable judgment. Just look at his associations with people in his past.


Exactly right he's corrupt. Just look at the Rezko land deal.


Exactly right he's a liar. Just look at what he says about taxes vs. how he's actually voted.


Exactly right he has no executive experience. Just look at his resume -- or lack thereof.


Exactly right he's secretive. Just look at his lack of birth certificate, SAT scores, grades, etc. etc., etc.


Exactly right he'll be challenged in his first 6 months of office if elected. Just look at what he says about meeting unconditionally with world leaders.


We cannot be SERIOUS about electing this guy!! Obama in charge of nukes?! What. The.


Sorry George Washington, we messed everything up.


We stopped demanding the best people in the White House.


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Posted by: 37thandOSt | October 29, 2008 5:08 AM | Report abuse

Tax relief with Obama ? Ya right has anyone gone to his calculator your not getting much. I got more this year from my stimulus check. Don't be fooled by obama just because he's a smooth talking lawyer !!!

Posted by: BeReal1 | October 29, 2008 2:55 AM | Report abuse

OMG, WITNESS THE EFFECT OF SEN. OBAMA TAX POLICIES!!

* Because of Sen. Obama tax policies, the Miami Dolphin owner is selling his ownership in the Miami Dolphin, so he can avoid the large tax penalty.

* Other effects of Sen. Obama tax policies: 1)Businesses (along with jobs) will start heading off shore where there is less tax penalties. 2) Business owners will start focusing on tax dodging strategies rather than managing their businesses. 3) Business owners will start working less because they realize that they will be penalized more for working harder. Sen. Obama tax policies = less business, less jobs and economic disaster. Our economy seems to be recovering because of all the liquidity pumped into it. However, if Sen. Obama becomes President, our fragile economy could quickly head into another economic downturn.

Posted by: lazerboy | October 29, 2008 12:25 AM | Report abuse

camera_eye_11 - you have totally not used your own brain...anyone who owns houses and cars is living the AMERICAN dream...I for 1 am not jealous as you seem to be....
IF and I MEAN IF Obama wins...you better get ready because him and his buddies will own your car and house along with most everyone elses..no on have ever taken the wealth and spread it...they take the wealth and keep it...so while you want to make the rich richer I am going to try and help the the country safe...
WE are right the the GREATEST country in the world...I prefer to keep it that way...As I have read 1 man cannot change the world but 1 can destroy a country...let Obama and his terrorist friends take control and see how you like that ...... you will be begging for the guy whose wife inherited alot to be in charge...

Posted by: djmiller1 | October 28, 2008 11:24 PM | Report abuse

Beginning sentences with "But, ..." is grammatically incorrect! You do this all the time! Also you often begin with "And, ..." There should not be a comma after these conjunctions.

Posted by: stumpff | October 28, 2008 9:44 PM | Report abuse
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This is a blog and like general conversation rules don't really matter.

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Posted by: 37thandOSt | October 28, 2008 10:22 PM | Report abuse

xthat, you can see into the future? I can't so I have to look at the past 8 years. I'll be voting for Obama for President because anyone who owns 8 houses and 14 cars (two of which are American made), and thinks that the middle class consists of those who make $5 million per year is too out of touch to be President.

Obama/Biden 2008!

Posted by: camera_eye_11 | October 28, 2008 10:22 PM | Report abuse

king_of_zouk, that's because the video doesn't exist.

Posted by: camera_eye_11 | October 28, 2008 10:15 PM | Report abuse

xthat, we're already a socialist state courtesy of a Republican administration and six years of a RepubliCON controlled Congress and Senate.

And, if you think that Obama would redistribute wealth, McSame has proposed a $5000 (taxable) rebate to Americans to buy their own health insurance. That's a redictibution of wealth.

McSame hates veterans.

I'll take Obama over McSame anyday.

Posted by: camera_eye_11 | October 28, 2008 10:07 PM | Report abuse

ghuntcustom -

I honestly don't think I've seen this usage elsewhere in the Post or other newspapers. In addition to violating the rules, it's incorrect as a replication of speech. If you were speaking the sentence -- "But it already appears as though some GOP candidates are taking Frum's advice in terms of messaging." -- you wouldn't insert a pause after the "But".

Posted by: stumpff | October 28, 2008 10:03 PM | Report abuse

What is Cilliza talking about? Obama is about to lose in the biggest landslide in the history of US elections. Just because the liberal media is in the tank for Obama doesn't mean the rest of us are too.

Posted by: bmayhewbz@hotmail.com | October 28, 2008 10:02 PM | Report abuse

Stumpff, I respect your rules, however some writers prefer to ignore that from time to time.

Posted by: ghuntcustom | October 28, 2008 9:56 PM | Report abuse

Chris judging by the posts on here so far and what is in the media, no the RNC is not going to change tactics.

Should they? Yes. What they have been doing has not been working. Would it work to change now? No they have left it too late. You even have a senator that ashamed of being a Repbulican he is trying to pretend he is a democrat in Oregon.

The best the GOP can hope for now is that their lawyers are better than the Democrat lawyers. In anticipation of this Obama has sent 6 000 lawyers to Florida.

Posted by: guytaur1 | October 28, 2008 9:56 PM | Report abuse

If it's true. That McCain lost the election, well good for the Republican Party, and bad for America. The Republicans would get rid of the elites, country club compromising moderates. America will get a Socialist President, and Congress dominated by Democrats, applying socialist realism, to an evolving socialist state. The only obstacle, is time, after four years, the people well be looking for CHANGE.

Posted by: xthat | October 28, 2008 9:51 PM | Report abuse

Beginning sentences with "But, ..." is grammatically incorrect! You do this all the time! Also you often begin with "And, ..." There should not be a comma after these conjunctions.

Posted by: stumpff | October 28, 2008 9:44 PM | Report abuse

Officer Mancuso

Not looking to be found, only making observations.

You are right about the majority status of the Republicans but it does not obviate responsibility for the Democrats that also pushed for spending and approved budgets, and there were many.

Again, there is plenty of blame to share and it's intellectually dishonest to claim one party has a monopoly on greed and dishonesty.

So, with that, I am logging off ... goodnight.

Posted by: facts-please | October 28, 2008 9:40 PM | Report abuse

If you Republicans want to get back in the game, you should follow CONSERVATIVE principles.

Since you haven't done this in a LONG time, let me explain.

1. Get back to God. I don't mean TALKING about God. I mean LIVING a Christian life. No, not Jewish life. CHRISTIAN life. That means that if you really want to call yourself a conservative you have to limit alcohol, stop premarital sex, stop drugs, and give your life to the Lord Jesus. At least you guys are somewhat pro-life (anti abortion). That's good. Now if you can just respect the poor and hungry lives out there.

2. Isolationsism was a conservative ideal. We don't need to be in other nations. How many nations can you name that have troops in other countries? Not many. Just the imperialist ones.

3. Fiscal conservation. Do you guys ever plan to reduce the deficit? Name the last Republican to do this. It hasn't happened in my life, and I'm 40. America is no longer fooled when you say "tax and spend liberals." YOU guys are the tax and spend liberals, not the Democrats.

4. Ditch every single Neo-Con. They highjacked your party. They are imperialists and Zionists. Not that there's anything wrong with being a Zionist if you are an Israeli. But Americans don't need to aid Israel in their pursuit of conquering the Middle East.

5. Dump the A.M radio guys. They are a cancer on your political party.

6. Start getting candidates who aren't filthy rich on oil or whatnot, but undereducated. Maybe if you had a Harvard educated law professor like Obama you might be somewhere.

7. Stop stealing money.

Other than all that, keep up the good work.

Posted by: michaelfairbanks | October 28, 2008 9:32 PM | Report abuse

No, absolutely not! McCain needs the GOP more than ever, and you suggest that they should cut McCain lose - he's they're candidate! Essentially, the GOP should continue insisting that we need more of the same! Why should this possibly change? Armed with toxic words such as "socialism" and "marxism", the GOP should be proud of the clear plan they have laid out before the American people. Further, a fantastic running mate like Sarah Palin, and with McCain's newest spokesperson, Joe the Not Licensed Plumber, the GOP should be proud of what's they've produced!

Amazing. Absolutely, amazing.

Facts about "Joe the plumber":
1. He isn't a licensed plumber.
2. His first name isn't Joe.
3. Owes $1,200 in back taxes and could be called a deadbeat.
4. Makes only $40,000 per year.

And yet, with all these known facts about Samuel Wurzelbacher, McCain still uses him as the model of a struggling entrepreneur who will make more than $250,000 annually and will use the imaginary money that he doesn"t have to buy a plumbing company that doesn"t exist.

I think we've crossed over into the Twilight Zone. But hey, that's what the GOP is all about.

Posted by: ghuntcustom | October 28, 2008 9:29 PM | Report abuse

facts-please, pardon me for noting that Republicans controlled the executive branch for the past 8 years, Republicans controlled the legislative branch for the past six years, and Republicans controlled the judicial branch for the past eight years.

I have no doubt that somewhere in the USA there is what's known as a "moderate". I just don't think that, in finding you, we've found it.

Posted by: officermancuso | October 28, 2008 9:21 PM | Report abuse

McCain+Mrs. Todd Palin +Bush= Best Thing That Has Happened to Democratic Party

McCain+Mrs. Todd Palin+Bush=Worst Thing That Has Happened To The Country Ever!

Posted by: bobnsri | October 28, 2008 9:10 PM | Report abuse

Partisans can say what they will. All that aside, the Republican Party has a reckoning with destiny coming in November.

Posted by: officermancuso | October 28, 2008 9:09 PM | Report abuse

There is plenty of passion, but few facts in these responses. If you all took as much time to read about the candidates actual positions on the issues and their proposed policies, your arguments would be more credible and your passion better directed.

I am amazed at how many of you have obviously taken the campaign dribble as gospel. What is even more frightening is you'll cast your vote based on misinformation and a misguided sense of vindication.

FACT 1. Neither party was solely responsible for the economy. These subprime loans were praised by democrats and republicans for increasing home ownership, and the bankers & investors (includes many of you with 401Ks) were all too happy to extend the credit (to people who could not afford it). By the way, these people were not victims, no one made them buy the houses they could not afford. Perhaps they should have paid more attention in math class. So, between greed and stupidity, we're are having issues now.

FACT 2. You cannot get something for nothing; both parties forgot that as they BOTH ran up the deficit. By the way, the war in Iraq is not the only thing driving up the deficit ... entitlements and domestic spending far outpace anything the defense department ever expends. The problem is no one trades off one expense for another ... everyone gets everythng they want. Jeez, grow up everybody. These programs both candidates are proposing CANNOT be afforded without increasing either tax revenue or the deficit or cutting elsewhere (and ending the war in Iraq will not even scratch the surface). Ridiculous promises are just an attempt to buy votes from an ignorant constituency. READ ... real info, not blogs.

FACT 3. This will not sway any of you and the farce will continue until we are totally and utterly lost ... then the next great society will pick up where we left off.

Posted by: facts-please | October 28, 2008 9:07 PM | Report abuse

I love reading the postings from McCain

backers, (who probably earn just above

minimum wage in their dead end jobs)

COMPLAINING that Mr. Obama will "spread

the wealth"

Mr. Obama was engaged in a philosophical

debate about the Supreme Court and race

related cases.

White Trash McCain Supporters are just

plain tooooo dumb to understand the

difference between an esoteric discussion

of ideas and actual policy proposals.

Its very true what they say about

"White Trash" = too dumb by half.

I am white and am frequently stunned

by the stupidity of those around me.

Posted by: bobnsri | October 28, 2008 9:06 PM | Report abuse

officermancuso wrote:
Reagan had the best of that argument, but Johnson's argument needs adjustment. It seems odd to me that the USA has never offered the unemployed federally subsidized work, since the New Deal. Welfare we've offered, but a Works Project Administration type deal has not been seen since FDR.

VOTE

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In recent times I have been thinking the same thing. How about employing the unemployed to help complete the needed infrastructure work. Funnel the money that would be going to welfare to pay for actual jobs... then you lose the argument that the folks receiving federal aid are simply doing nothing. Think of the infrastructure that was built and completed during the New Deal. The same infrastructure that is deteriorating now due to underinvestment.

Posted by: SteadyState | October 28, 2008 9:05 PM | Report abuse

Oh No!

Don't Abandon Mr. McCain and Mrs. Todd Palin.

Stick With Them!

Be Loyal!

(oh how gleeful I am watching the entire conservative-white-trash-movement go down the tubes!)

Next Up: Newt 20012!

Posted by: bobnsri | October 28, 2008 9:00 PM | Report abuse


popasmoke and broadwayjoe


How much is the Obama campaign paying you to harass people on the internet? Shows the respect Obama has for Freedom of Speech - why don't you be honest and tell us???


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Posted by: 37thandOSt | October 28, 2008 8:59 PM | Report abuse

37'th and O, I don't spend a lot of time fretting about you, but on November 4, 2008, I am going to celebrate your demise. I'll be in Massanutten, VA, and the volume will be cranked up.

Posted by: officermancuso | October 28, 2008 8:57 PM | Report abuse

Obama's admission that he's for redistribution of wealth has lead in these past few days instead to a redistribution of votes...down to 2% lead in Gallup traditional, 4% IBD, 5% Rasmusson and Zogby, and falling.

Posted by: thecannula | October 28, 2008 8:57 PM | Report abuse

Per McCain's definition, Ronald Regan was the biggest "SOCIALIST" in last 50 years. He expanded AMT (Alternate Minimum Tax) in 1986. The main objective of this ACT was to tax higher income people more and then distribute the money on to the lower income bracket (or poor people) so that they pay minimum or no income tax at all.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_Minimum_Tax

Posted by: kat7 | October 28, 2008 8:53 PM | Report abuse

Whod a thunk that calling the vast majority of America and Americans un-patriotic and un-American wouldnt work and not get you elected ????

Whod a thunk that crashing the markets and giving billions to billionaires would lose you an election ????

Whod a thunk that running the worst trade deficit in history...worst budget deficit in history....weakest dollar in history... Worst national debt in history...worst broader market performance since the great depression...would lose you an election.....apparently the neocon nazi republican party didnt thunk so......hahahahahahahaha

Gary Gelormino Seven Hills Ohio 44131 (216)447-0081

Posted by: garygelormino1 | October 28, 2008 8:49 PM | Report abuse

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If there was a white Presidential candidate who was found to be a member of a racist church, same as the Rev. Wright's church except substitute "white values" for "black values" and visa vera, THE MEDIA WOULD BE IN TOTAL ATTACK MODE AGAINST THAT WHITE CANDIDATE.


OBAMA IS A RACIST - OBAMA HAS GIVE $20,000.00 TO A RACIST CHURCH IN ONE YEAR.


WAKE UP WASHINGTON POST WAKE UP MEDIA.


WAKE UP AMERICA.


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Exactly right he's racist. Just listen to Irreverend Wrong, his pastor for many, many years.


Exactly right he's socialist. Just listen to him admit it to Joe the Plumber, or his interviews in the past.


Exactly right he's a rotten human being. Just look at his abortion voting record.


Exactly right he has questionable judgment. Just look at his associations with people in his past.


Exactly right he's corrupt. Just look at the Rezko land deal.


Exactly right he's a liar. Just look at what he says about taxes vs. how he's actually voted.


Exactly right he has no executive experience. Just look at his resume -- or lack thereof.


Exactly right he's secretive. Just look at his lack of birth certificate, SAT scores, grades, etc. etc., etc.


Exactly right he'll be challenged in his first 6 months of office if elected. Just look at what he says about meeting unconditionally with world leaders.


We cannot be SERIOUS about electing this guy!! Obama in charge of nukes?! What. The.


Sorry George Washington, we messed everything up.


We stopped demanding the best people in the White House.


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Posted by: 37thandOSt | October 28, 2008 8:48 PM | Report abuse

"It will remain a great mystery that when so many well seasoned Republican politicians are out there, why did he choose Palin? Does he have a political "death wish?""

Its because the man needed to appease his base who are nothing but a bunch of losers who want nothing more than a Bible waved in their faces. That's why McCain couldn't choose Lieberman or Ridge.

McCain is too good for the Republican Party.

Posted by: DDAWD | October 28, 2008 8:47 PM | Report abuse

"In fact, the order was:

1) Church-going conservatives. Nearly all their giving was to their churches. They also gave, by far, the largest percentage of their total incomes, partially accounted by the fact that they had the lowest average incomes, bless their hearts.
2) Church-going Liberals. Giving not much lower, but percentage given to other than churches was much larger.
3) Secular Liberals. Greatest percentage of giving was to local social causes (large percentage to anti-poverty efforts, including homeless shelters and food pantries).
4) Secular conservative, last by a large margin. Large percentage of giving was to local and national conservative issue groups.

Posted by: malis | October 28, 2008 8:34 PM"

Mind if I ask your source?

Posted by: DDAWD | October 28, 2008 8:43 PM | Report abuse

McCain is left now to look like the guy who expects to win by being the last man standing. Sort of like how he secured the Republican nomination. Although I am an Obama supporter, I do have to say McCain was one of the few Republicans I felt "good about", that is, until his selection of Palin and decent into negative campaign hell. It will remain a great mystery that when so many well seasoned Republican politicians are out there, why did he choose Palin? Does he have a political "death wish?" As for McCain, I wish he would have secured the nomination when it was his time, back in 2000. But alas, the Republicans let the right wingers and the evangelicals hijack their party and put Bush into the White House. What a disaster! Now McCain is stuck, it's no longer his time. He's been left arguing Islamophobia and comparing Barrack to Marx while millions of Americans see their 401K's vaporize and they stand in fear of the unemployment line.

Posted by: magnifco1000 | October 28, 2008 8:43 PM | Report abuse

Good Lord repubs, you can't do anything right anymore....you nominated the wrong person.... can you say MITT ROMNEY....imagine a Romney/Ridge ticket...you would have been mutch better off. Bob Dole was a much better nominee than McCain.....and Palin is a total joke.

Say goodbye to the Republican party as you know it. 40 years in the wilderness for you
repubs. Obama/Biden for 8 years. Get used to it.

Posted by: tuttlegroup | October 28, 2008 8:39 PM | Report abuse

Okay...try using your emagination when reading this post....emagine McSame's voice saying ......

"My friends...friends...my friends....my friends...listen my friends...I want to say to my friends.....My friends I have something to tell you my friends.....as you know...my friends.....listen to this my friends.....we los....Friends...we losssss....friends what Iam trying to say is....Iam sorry my friends.....we lost. tap..tap..tap...hello?...is this thing on ? HELLOOOOOoooo...crickets chirping...creeeak...creeeeakk...creeeakkk...."

hahahahahahahahahaha

Gary Gelormino Seven Hills Ohio 44131 (216)447-0081

Posted by: garygelormino1 | October 28, 2008 8:39 PM | Report abuse

"voting along the party line is not in my book."

Me too, but I did it this year. I don't really care what party the dog catcher is, but every vote for a Democrat is a vote against the lasting Republican majority and a big slap in the face to Bush and Rove.

I mean, its a slap coming from one voter in a deep red state and Bush and Rove will do fine with their millions of dollars. But their legacy will go down in flames and I want to be a part of it.

Of course, the hours of phonebanking and canvassing and all the dollars donated and people driven to the polls are also a part of it. Probably eclipses my single vote at least ten times.

This week I'll try and make it ten more.

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Posted by: 37thandOSt | October 28, 2008 8:34 PM | Report abuse

leapin and the other wondering about that “conservatives give more to charity” story. When the article came out in the post, George Will based a column on it, then Stossel duplicated it. They both, of course, purposefully buried the primary finding of the study. Had it been honestly cited, their headlines would have been the unsurprising “CHURCHGOERS GIVE MORE TO CHURCHES.”

Yes, the difference in giving was entirely due to the fact that a high percentage of regular churchgoers identify themselves of conservative, and money collected by churches was counted as charitable donations.

Stossel and Will decided to use their media megaphones to put out a false impression ('Conservatives good! Liberals bad!'). Their success is shown by the fact that dupes such as leapin are still puppeting their intended theme. Too bad this was directly contradicted by other fact that came out of the same study: the single group identified as lowest in charitable giving was...non-churchgoing conservatives.

In fact, the order was:

1) Church-going conservatives. Nearly all their giving was to their churches. They also gave, by far, the largest percentage of their total incomes, partially accounted by the fact that they had the lowest average incomes, bless their hearts.
2) Church-going Liberals. Giving not much lower, but percentage given to other than churches was much larger.
3) Secular Liberals. Greatest percentage of giving was to local social causes (large percentage to anti-poverty efforts, including homeless shelters and food pantries).
4) Secular conservative, last by a large margin. Large percentage of giving was to local and national conservative issue groups.

Posted by: malis | October 28, 2008 8:34 PM | Report abuse

I just laugh at all you crazy conservatives that post here. Do you really think you change anybody's mind? Don't flatter yourself.

Did you know Mr. 'King of zouk' that John Sidney McCain III has donated hundred of thousands of dollars to the American Action Network? Didn't think so.

You are taking a leak into a gale force wind my friend.

Posted by: cfeher | October 28, 2008 8:32 PM | Report abuse

"I disagree with Democrats who say that Republicans have no good ideas.

Reagan's idea that "a good job is the best social program" is something worth listening to."

I wouldn't call this Reagan's idea. Everyone knows that job creation is a good thing.

Reagan's idea is less the goal of job creation and more the tactic of trickle down economics.

A tactic which has been a dismal failure.

Posted by: DDAWD | October 28, 2008 8:30 PM | Report abuse

The GOP (grumpy OLD party) and McCain (grumpy OLD candidate) are each throwing the other over the side and under the bus. The result? A landslide loss of epic proportions, and a once-proud and effective political party reduced to splinter status.

It couldn't happen to a more deserving group of clueless greedheads, self-serving hacks and lockstep ideologues.

Time to break out Bush's banner of a few years ago and dust it off: MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.

Posted by: H5N1 | October 28, 2008 8:29 PM | Report abuse

abigsam wrote,

"The real value of FDR's works projects was not only that we got something for our money by getting parks and bridges built, but we trained a highly skilled work force that built up a solid economy. For the cost of script, we fed needy families, and turned out skilled electricians, masons, carpenters, plumbers, and many other trades. So not only did his programs help jump start our economy, not only did it help build hope in a time of despair, but it trained a work force that took us through the boom of the 50's and 60's.

"Barack Obama's plan for community service for college educations could be expanded perhaps and accomplish similar goals. What I appreciate about it is in the spirit of the New Deal, it doesn't give something for nothing. That is key to real growth.

"Thanks for bringing up that point. I appreciate it much more than the idiot nonsense I see the right wingers soiling up the forum with."

Read.

VOTE

Posted by: officermancuso | October 28, 2008 8:28 PM | Report abuse

For all you right wingnut, neocon nazi, republican shills on this thread, all 3 of you and your dozens of manufactured sock puppet WaPo nics, heres a hot tip on how to cash in and make filthy lucre hand over fist...or in your cases....cloven hoof over paw.

Go the Walmart or Bed Bath and beyond and buy every terry cloth white robe you can purchase...buy em by the gross (144) thats 12X12 for you rapture ranger evangelicals who mathmatically challenged.

Take your inventory and sell it at a 100% mark up too people like
sagereader
jammer88
ekim
pgr88...etc etc etc
Because they will buy willy nilly and are sure the rapture has arrived on Nov 5 th...set up a table at a local flea market...use a cassette tape playing weird speaking in tongues babble...for ambience....hahahahahahahaha

Gary Gelormino Seven Hills Ohio 44131 (216)447-0081

Posted by: garygelormino1 | October 28, 2008 8:28 PM | Report abuse

Even Obama once said Republicans had some good ideas. It is the partisan politics that turns some voters off. There are good and bad people in both parties. That's why voting along the party line is not in my book. I make my Independent decision.

Posted by: dummy4peace | October 28, 2008 8:22 PM | Report abuse

Cut loose the Chamber of Commerce and the Business Roundtable. Their offshoring, outsourcing and promotion of illegal immigration destroyed the GOP. If the middle class loses ground, the Republicans lose elections.

Bye the way, where was the money advantage that these fat cats usually supply the GOP? They have taken Republicans for granted and stuck them with all their liabilities.

Posted by: Pebble1776 | October 28, 2008 8:22 PM | Report abuse


Another ploy by the Wapo chauvins for Obama to smear his opponents. You just think you're ebing clever!

Since Obama is your chosen ONE, your second coming and your anointed president, you'll do anything ti help him win!

Lie, distort, scam, smear, anything to help him!

Posted by: wj_phillips | October 28, 2008 8:19 PM | Report abuse

So the republicans now think having a President, Congress and Supreme Court all controlled by one party is suddenly a bad idea .............unless it's their party, of course.

Posted by: cfeher | October 28, 2008 8:18 PM | Report abuse

George W Bush is the biggest socialist in history with his bank bailout plan and his plan to "nationalize" banks.

Posted by: Maddogg | October 28, 2008 8:16 PM | Report abuse

Of course, if "a good job is the best social program", why shouldn't the federal government be offering jobs during a recession?

Could it be the case that the Republicans don't want to try to figure out what might be a fair wage?

Posted by: officermancuso | October 28, 2008 8:16 PM | Report abuse

"From what I hear, from people who work in the Obama campaign. His lead is actually 3 points! Why do you think is his actually campaigning in PA a week before the election?"

Yeah, Obama staffers are looking at this as a close race. They are working their asses off to get every last vote in. Even a state that Obama consistently leads in double digits, they are acting like its a close race.

Obama is campaigning in PA a week before the election because the campaign is playing all nine innings, all forty-eight minutes, all three periods, every single down, giving 110%, going over the top, pushing it to the max.

Am I making my point clear?

Posted by: DDAWD | October 28, 2008 8:16 PM | Report abuse

AsperGirl, we're already a socialist state, brought to you by the RepubliCON executive branch and 6 years of RepubliCONs controlling the Senate and Congress.

Posted by: camera_eye_11 | October 28, 2008 8:15 PM | Report abuse

Why should the RNC cut McCain loose? He's washed up anyway, career over. His Palin choice done his own self in. She is his biggest fattest most glaring blunder ever.

Posted by: buzziea | October 28, 2008 8:15 PM | Report abuse

The Republican Party isn't going to benefit from not backing McCain now. First of all, it's really too late to pull out support for him, and many ballots are already counted (ie, early voting and absentee ballots). Also, the party is in trouble because of GW Bush. Put simply, his failures have neutralized the evangelical right wing It's that base that backed Bush in 2000 and 2004. McCain represents movement away from that base, and if anything, is an attempt to pull the party more to the center from the right. Without McCain, the party drifts into an even worse quagmire as it tilts even more rightward and into even more irrelevance. The Dems went through this years ago with McGovern, but with Clinton, they finally learned you have to go to the center to win. A lesson not wasted on Obama, as he quickly and skillfully moved from left to center. And, as he did this, he left behind a startled McCain. A McCain struggling futilely to politically "typecast" Obama as a radical while everything Obama says and does now appears quite the opposite! That leaves McCain looking increasingly the fool who has lost touch and resorted to nothing more then name calling. In the end, the Republicans have to learn this and learn what the Dems found out. You don't win on the political margins of left and right, but only by going quickly and skillfully to the center.

Posted by: magnifco1000 | October 28, 2008 8:13 PM | Report abuse

Speaking of spreading the wealth, If McSame is giving every American a $5000 check for health insurance (which would be taxable under McSame, so Americans would be screwed), isn't that spreading the wealth?

Obama/Biden 2008!

Posted by: camera_eye_11 | October 28, 2008 8:12 PM | Report abuse

I disagree with Democrats who say that Republicans have no good ideas.

Reagan's idea that "a good job is the best social program" is something worth listening to.

Posted by: officermancuso | October 28, 2008 8:12 PM | Report abuse

Wow, now even AsperGirl is giving McCCain up for dead. "If McCain wins", not "WHEN McCain wins"?

Abandon ship! Everybody for themselves! But of course, at least that is consistent with Republican philosophy. Never do anything for the collective good, only give advantage to the individual.

Posted by: PrattleinSeattle | October 28, 2008 2:49 PM

What in the hell are you talking about? I'm not a Republican, but a former Clinton supporter.

But no, Clinton supporter or not, I DON'T believe in "the collective" or "the hive" or being assimilated into some socialist regime as you apparently ascribe to. Especially not when the hive is full of lowlife bots.

Posted by: AsperGirl | October 28, 2008 8:12 PM | Report abuse

So as everyone on the WaPo comment thread knows by now...
pgr88
jammer88
charko825
sagereader
And the dozens of other sock puppet WaPo comment nics this idiot has made, using multiple e-mail accounts...is a complete wacko lunitic right wingnut, neocon nazi, republican shill.

And not unlike herpes, this neocon nazi idiot, wont go away.
hahahahahahahahah

Now the market sees that Obama is the POTUS and surges 900 points. The world markets are upwards bound by a common sentiment of a better future.
The only people who hate good news are evil people.

I having served with the heros that made the election of Obama possible, am humbled to have faught the good fight with you.

We can continue to hunt down, expose, eliminate the neocon nazis that nearly destroyed America and the world at large. I look forward to the coming battles and subsequent victories.

Gary Gelormino Seven Hills Ohio 44131 (216)447-0081
Sempre Fidelis

Posted by: garygelormino1 | October 28, 2008 8:10 PM | Report abuse

Republicans are bankrupt of ideas and programs.

All they have left are the buzz words like socialist, marxist, welfare, spread the wealth.

They have no plans for middle class tax cuts or job creation. Obama has both.

Someday if the Republicans can jettison their bible toting wingnuts they may win an election again.

Posted by: Maddogg | October 28, 2008 8:07 PM | Report abuse

Morons like charko used to refer to Obama as a socialist until a RepubliCON administration turned this nation into a socialist state; now they are calling Obama a Marxist. RepubliCONs are nothing but shallow, uneducated morons.

Posted by: camera_eye_11 | October 28, 2008 8:07 PM | Report abuse

Republicans are bankrupt of ideas and programs.

All they have left are the buzz words like socialist, marxist, welfare, spread the wealth.

They have no plan for middle class tax cuts or job creation. Obama has both.

Someday if the Republicans can jettison their bible toting wingnuts they may win an election again.

Posted by: Maddogg | October 28, 2008 8:06 PM | Report abuse

Morons like charko used to refer to Obama as a socialist until a RepubliCON administration turned this nation into a socialist state; now they are calling Obama a Marxist. RepubliCONs are nothing but shallow, uneducated morons.

Posted by: camera_eye_11 | October 28, 2008 8:06 PM | Report abuse

Joe Biden just reduced the level of people who will get taxed from $250K to $150K.

Obama and Biden do not have a clue about the economy. All they have are group-tested, sweet phrases

Wait until Obama comes for your 401K and savings, and offers you a US Gov't IOU in return. Won't all of you who voted for Osamah Obiden feel like chumps?!

Posted by: pgr88 | October 28, 2008 8:06 PM | Report abuse

"Lyndon Johnson (talk about redistribution of wealth!) believed that if you lift a person out of poverty by giving them money, you will have made them a better citizen.

Ronald Reagan answered that by saying that the best social program is a job, and the most likely way to create jobs is to throw money at the top of the economic pyramid."

Its funny. When the rich get their taxes cut, they are allowed to "keep their own money"

When Obama promises middle class tax cuts, Republicans refer to it as "welfare" or "redistribution of wealth" or "cutting them a check" or "socialism"

That's a big of a reason as any why so many people are ditching the Republicans this year. Middle class people are tired of being demonized for wanting to keep their own hard earned money.

Posted by: DDAWD | October 28, 2008 8:06 PM | Report abuse

Actually, NO!

McCain is actually doing better than the generic Republican ballot. Some of the polls are misleading. When I have looked at the actual demographic breakdowns, some of the polling samples have an over representation of blacks and democrats.

From what I hear, from people who work in the Obama campaign. His lead is actually 3 points! Why do you think is his actually campaigning in PA a week before the election?

Spin-spin.

Posted by: dcpsychic | October 28, 2008 8:06 PM | Report abuse

Chris, I noticed that there is a link to "report abuse," could you please add a link to "report stupidity." There are plenty of comments that qualify.

Posted by: johntesar | October 28, 2008 8:03 PM | Report abuse

Chris when you get it wrong it's a big one! Mc Cain should declare Independence from them Republicans! Gees, how many indicted republicans do you need? Go out with integrity and have Palin do the same.
That party is so corupt and on the Dem side I am disapointed in Frank and Dodd.
Feingold and Sanders have the right ideas.

Posted by: crrobin | October 28, 2008 7:57 PM | Report abuse

In response to the following post:

"I voted for Obama today, because I'll be out of state on election day.

I came home to a two hour power outage (high winds), which gave me some time to think things over.

Here's what the power outage produced:

Lyndon Johnson (talk about redistribution of wealth!) believed that if you lift a person out of poverty by giving them money, you will have made them a better citizen.

Ronald Reagan answered that by saying that the best social program is a job, and the most likely way to create jobs is to throw money at the top of the economic pyramid.

Reagan had the best of that argument, but Johnson's argument needs adjustment. It seems odd to me that the USA has never offered the unemployed federally subsidized work, since the New Deal. Welfare we've offered, but a Works Project Administration type deal has not been seen since FDR.

VOTE

Posted by: officermancuso | October 28, 2008 7:43 PM | Report abuse

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You make a very good point. The real value of FDR's works projects was not only that we got something for our money by getting parks and bridges built, but we trained a highly skilled work force that built up a solid economy. For the cost of script, we fed needy families, and turned out skilled electricians, masons, carpenters, plumbers, and many other trades. So not only did his programs help jump start our economy, not only did it help build hope in a time of despair, but it trained a work force that took us through the boom of the 50's and 60's.

Barack Obama's plan for community service for college educations could be expanded perhaps and accomplish similar goals. What I appreciate about it is in the spirit of the New Deal, it doesn't give something for nothing. That is key to real growth.

Thanks for bringing up that point. I appreciate it much more than the idiot nonsense I see the right wingers soiling up the forum with.

Posted by: abigsam | October 28, 2008 7:57 PM | Report abuse

After reading (some) of the comments I am:

Happy to see so many folks having fun.
OR
Scared that so many crazy people are interested in politics.
OR
Concerned that I can't tell the difference between the funny and the crazy.
OR
Waiting for the election to be over.

Posted by: rusty3 | October 28, 2008 7:57 PM | Report abuse

The problem for the GOP is President Bush!

Senator McCain and his running mate could win this presidential campaign if they would provide the public with information about Obama. Many American voters have never heard the following:

#1. The twenty year membership with Wright's anti-American and anti-white church! FAILURE OF OBAMA'S CHARACTER TEST.

2. The American vote that is being bought by $618 million Obama dollars.

3. Lack of transparency in this election. One of many examples:

[In May, NObama released a one-page letter from his primary care doctor, who he had not seen in 18 months.]

[Senator John McCain has granted access to more than 2,500 pages of medical records, in 1999 and 2008, and a recent report, including all medications from a team of doctors at the Mayo Clinic who has been treating him for years.]

4. Senator McCain participated in Campaign financing, but Obama said he would, then flip-flopped and failed to do so!

5. Obama chants "change," chose a 30 YEAR Washington politician for his side-by-side running mate. change(?)

6. Obama has been running for president longer than he has even occupied his Senate seat in Washington!!!! His colleagues claim Obama IS NOT a UNITER [remember those words from GEO.W}. What makes people think he is going to magically transform himself if he gets elected?

Posted by: Cantabrigian | October 28, 2008 7:55 PM | Report abuse

The Axelrod/Obama campaign has spent as much selling the Barack Obama brand as McDonald’s has spent in 10 years selling hamburgers.

Only hamburgers are more appetizing than a slick socialist

Posted by: pgr88 | October 28, 2008 7:50 PM | Report abuse

The verdict is in, charko825 is an idiot. He doesn't know what a "Marxist" even is, yet he thinks he's qualified to call a candidate one.

Good thing idiots like him are rapidly becoming an extinct species.

Posted by: abigsam | October 28, 2008 7:47 PM | Report abuse

Heehee! Reading some of the wacko right wing comments on these boards is a perfect way to demonstrate exactly what is wrong with modern Republicanism.

Want to rise from the ashes of defeat? Here's the program:

1. We will dfend the U. S. A.

2. We will be careful with the taxpayers money and control spending.

3. We will not tell you how to live your life.

4. All Americans are welcome to our tent.

Get rid of the nutjobs, neo-fascists, the purposely ignorant and those waiting the rapture candidates. (They'll vote for you anyway).

Build a center-right fiscally conservative, socially moderate and Americans will respond.

Your nation needs you.

:-)

Posted by: toritto | October 28, 2008 7:45 PM | Report abuse

I voted for Obama today, because I'll be out of state on election day.

I came home to a two hour power outage (high winds), which gave me some time to think things over.

Here's what the power outage produced:

Lyndon Johnson (talk about redistribution of wealth!) believed that if you lift a person out of poverty by giving them money, you will have made them a better citizen.

Ronald Reagan answered that by saying that the best social program is a job, and the most likely way to create jobs is to throw money at the top of the economic pyramid.

Reagan had the best of that argument, but Johnson's argument needs adjustment. It seems odd to me that the USA has never offered the unemployed federally subsidized work, since the New Deal. Welfare we've offered, but a Works Project Administration type deal has not been seen since FDR.

VOTE

Posted by: officermancuso | October 28, 2008 7:43 PM | Report abuse

37thandOSt:

Would you shut up with your nonsense please? Your bag of right wing born again idiot crap is getting old and nobody is listening to it anymore after 8 long years of it. Either grow up or just dry up and blow away and do your country a favor in the process.

Posted by: abigsam | October 28, 2008 7:43 PM | Report abuse


The Verdict is in: Obama is a Marxist!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LA5HPil8Fj4&feature=related

With the recent discovery of Obama's comments it's become obvious to us all that this man is a Communist.

After listening to this link along with others on the site there is no doubt that Obama is antithetical to the U.S. Constitution and in this regard he is an Enemy Of The State.

He should not be allowed to be President, for he has absolutely no capacity whatsoever to take the oath of The Presidency--whereby he is sworn to uphold and protect the U.S. Constitution. Obama wants to trash it altogether...

Obama's association with William Ayres is much more clearer with the revelation of this tape.

OBAMA IS AN ENEMY OF THE STATE...


Posted by: charko825 | October 28, 2008 7:37 PM | Report abuse

TOTAL LOOTING OF TREASURY. And McShame wants to give these CROOKS a TAX Break???

"More than one-third of Wall Street employees surveyed by a recruitment Web site expect a bigger bonus this year than last year even amid the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression."

WS firms gave over 102 Billion in bonuses last year and are expecting to exceed that amount this year WITH YOUR MONEY!

CALL YOUR REPRESENTATIVES IMMEDIATELY AND SAY !!!!!!!!! NO WAY !!!


Posted by: dogsbestfriend | October 28, 2008 7:36 PM | Report abuse


The Verdict is in: Obama is a Marxist!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LA5HPil8Fj4&feature=related

With the recent discovery of Obama's comments it's become obvious to us all that this man is a Communist.

After listening to this link along with others on the site there is no doubt that Obama is antithetical to the U.S. Constitution and in this regard he is an Enemy Of The State.

He should not be allowed to be President, for he has absolutely no capacity whatsoever to take the oath of The Presidency--whereby he is sworn to uphold and protect the U.S. Constitution. Obama wants to trash it altogether...

Obama's association with William Ayres is much more clearer with the revelation of this tape.

OBAMA IS AN ENEMY OF THE STATE...


Posted by: charko825 | October 28, 2008 7:34 PM | Report abuse

Oooh, foul of the most foul sort!

Cillizza reveals his true colors!

In the last paragraph of this piece, he writes:

"In two years time, Republicans will have actual votes and measures to point to in order to make the case that Obama and the Democratic majorities in Congress have taken the country too far left. It may prove to be a winning argument then even if it fails to save them this time around."

SSssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss!!!

Perhaps, just perhaps the country will be jubilant after being crushed by the thumb of the GOP?

Just maybe the Dems who ushered in the broadest prosperity this country has ever known know a thing or two about the economy?

But then we can't ALL be wealthy op ed writers for major newspapers and bump up against the $250K limit.

It's been a LONG time since I've visited this biased piece of crap. It's going to be a LOOOOOONG time before I visit it again.

Posted by: ethanquern | October 28, 2008 7:31 PM | Report abuse

In times of crisis the public will vote for a single party so meaningful changes can be made in a timely fashion. When FDR got elected in 1932, both houses of Congress went Democratic.

This time, the voters are not interested in checks and balances.

Posted by: OscarMayer2 | October 28, 2008 7:03 PM | Report abuse

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If there was a white Presidential candidate who was found to be a member of a racist church, same as the Rev. Wright's church except substitute "white values" for "black values" and visa vera, THE MEDIA WOULD BE IN TOTAL ATTACK MODE AGAINST THAT WHITE CANDIDATE.


OBAMA IS A RACIST - OBAMA HAS GIVE $20,000.00 TO A RACIST CHURCH IN ONE YEAR.


WAKE UP WASHINGTON POST WAKE UP MEDIA.


WAKE UP AMERICA.

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Exactly right he's racist. Just listen to Irreverend Wrong, his pastor for many, many years.


Exactly right he's socialist. Just listen to him admit it to Joe the Plumber, or his interviews in the past.


Exactly right he's a rotten human being. Just look at his abortion voting record.


Exactly right he has questionable judgment. Just look at his associations with people in his past.


Exactly right he's corrupt. Just look at the Rezko land deal.


Exactly right he's a liar. Just look at what he says about taxes vs. how he's actually voted.


Exactly right he has no executive experience. Just look at his resume -- or lack thereof.


Exactly right he's secretive. Just look at his lack of birth certificate, SAT scores, grades, etc. etc., etc.


Exactly right he'll be challenged in his first 6 months of office if elected. Just look at what he says about meeting unconditionally with world leaders.


We cannot be SERIOUS about electing this guy!! Obama in charge of nukes?! What. The.


Sorry George Washington, we messed everything up.


We stopped demanding the best people in the White House.

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Posted by: 37thandOSt | October 28, 2008 6:58 PM | Report abuse

I say, "No way, Obama," we are on to you now. gw.

Posted by: Iowatreasures

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Clever you!

Posted by: wpost4112 | October 28, 2008 6:54 PM | Report abuse

BONNE NUIT AMERICA

REMEMBER VOTE,VOTE OBAMA BIDEN 08.!


NETHERLANDS ANTILLES

Posted by: fu_buki | October 28, 2008 6:41 PM | Report abuse

Sounds like Obama control freaks are behind this article - should Republicans cut bait - it shows the marks of Obama - his M.O. - eliminate the competition so you don't have to defeat the competition.

Obama control freaks have a habit of starting rumors like this one to get their way. I say, "No way, Obama," we are on to you now. gw.

Posted by: Iowatreasures | October 28, 2008 6:37 PM

No so much. Actually the issue was brought to the fore by Bush speechwriter David Frum in an article published this past weekend in the WaPo. So no, it's not Obama that is behind this idea, it is Republicans.

Posted by: NMModerate1 | October 28, 2008 6:41 PM | Report abuse

Sounds like Obama control freaks are behind this article - should Republicans cut bait - it shows the marks of Obama - his M.O. - eliminate the competition so you don't have to defeat the competition.

Obama control freaks have a habit of starting rumors like this one to get their way. I say, "No way, Obama," we are on to you now. gw.

Posted by: Iowatreasures | October 28, 2008 6:37 PM | Report abuse

Anyone heard from Biden lately? No? He must be locked at some gaffe-secure location so as not to disrupt the messiah’s last ditch effort to install socialism in the US.

Posted by: AlexZ83 | October 28, 2008 6:20 PM | Report abuse
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Are you crazy? I heard him today and he has really hit his stride. He had that crowd in the palm of his hand. I have never seem him better. He is going to crown what has been an average political career as one of the finest VP's ever. Both he and Obama will turn out to be the right people in the right place at the right time. That is how history works. It is going to be fun to watch what the next few years bring. I am sorry to say, John Mccain will only be allowed to sit behind the desk if he was to win. He is not even being allowed to run his own campaign. Behind him are all the same people we have seen for years. He could not change a thing if he wanted to was he elected. He would be just a puppet. Fortunately we won't have to even find out if I am correct.

Posted by: popasmoke | October 28, 2008 6:35 PM | Report abuse

Despite all predictions, this election is not, in fact, about Bush. He's a non-entity in it all.

That's fairly remarkable. And against the odds, the McCain/Palin campaign has managed to suck entirely on its own. Sure, the Democrats wanted to paint McCain (accurately, when it comes to nearly all actual policy positions) as the second coming of Bush. But McCain resisted the label, and instead found ways to suck that were completely independent of his ties to Bush.

McCain: He's terrible at giving speeches, yes. His policies are dismal, and more to the point are badly elucidated -- when he's willing to talk about them at all. We know he's for the Iraq War: we don't know anything he intends to do differently, except do more of it and presume it'll all work out this time around. His choice of Palin for the number two spot was, from the standpoint of anyone not a hardcore conservative, bizarre, and smacked of the erratic, shoot-from-the-hip nature of decision making that his past detractors had warned of. His campaign managers have been vitriolic towards the press, and dismissive of the public, and as erratic as their own candidate. His vaunted surrogates have played a round-robin game of publicly humiliating themselves and their candidate (attaching himself to Phil Gramm, noted hellspawn of all that is economically manipulative and devastating, was an inspired touch.) And his behavior during this economic crisis -- making a show of tooling down to Washington to "solve" things, and having his party dissolve into chaos around him, and then rejoining his campaign with nothing "solved" at all, and things in fact much, much worse, and looking for all the world like a man who has just been pied in the face by circumstance -- has been a complete and very public fiasco. He has done his very best to manage to convince everyone that he is, in fact, not anything like presidential material. He's never looked less presidential.

Oh -- and his more impromptu surrogates, people like "Joe the Plumber" and "Tape #254 Of Sarah Palin Saying Something Crazy" and "Campaign Supporter Not Really Attacked At ATM" have added a burnt-popcorn, sideshow quality to the campaign. That hasn't helped.

So... congratulations to McCain, I guess. He managed to do the seemingly impossible -- be trailing in the election not because people were deathly tired of George W. Bush and didn't want anything to do with his party, but because people are deathly tired of John McCain, as well. And I think the award needs to be shared communally, because at all levels of the Republican Party, candidates seem to be going out of their way to make themselves similarly dislikable, out of touch, or (and this is the favorite approach) be ranting with such gusto about the incipient socialism if any of you poor cretins out there dare get better healthcare or a more stable economy that they seem, to be blunt, f---ing nuts.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEtZlR3zp4c

Posted by: DrainYou | October 28, 2008 6:35 PM | Report abuse

I am so SICK of hearing from people who make below $250,000 a year rant about Obama's "socialistic" policies!! Don't you morons understand that Obama is going to be allowing YOU to keep more of your tax dollars than McCain!!! But that is SOCIALISM? Get a clue. The only people that should be complaining are those who make more than $250,000 per year and like things just they way the way are. Oh and by the way, McCain will be giving them (the over 250 per crowd) a huge tax cut. Is that what you want?!?

WTF!

Posted by: NMModerate1 | October 28, 2008 6:33 PM | Report abuse

Sure is fun watching the conservatrolls disintegrate.

I don't think calling Obama a "socialist" in a blog is going to swing too many EVs to McCain.

Heh heh heh. Cold dead fingers.

Posted by: chrisfox8 | October 28, 2008 6:31 PM | Report abuse

I've never been for single party rule...until this election. Be selecting and supporting George W. Bush's eight years of incompetence, they've forfeited their right to exist in their current form.

To be honest, I'm a Republican with conservative economic views, but liberal on social issues (much like Colin Powell). The Republican party made it very clear that not only was there no room for me, I was absolutely unwelcome.

Now they call to see whether I will volunteer for the campaign. Amazing.

Posted by: amaikovich | October 28, 2008 6:22 PM | Report abuse

Anyone heard from Biden lately? No? He must be locked at some gaffe-secure location so as not to disrupt the messiah’s last ditch effort to install socialism in the US.

Posted by: AlexZ83 | October 28, 2008 6:20 PM | Report abuse

"BO is religious fanatic Christain but gets a pass because he is a lib."

Is this what John Stossel is saying as well?

Posted by: DDAWD | October 28, 2008 6:19 PM | Report abuse

Zouk, AP Style is to place (D-Somewhere) or (R-Somewhere Else) after the names of state and U.S. representatives and senators, as well as candidates for those positions. Mayors are not so designated -- much less the ones who are no longer in office and are not seeking it.

Posted by: GJonahJameson | October 28, 2008 6:18 PM | Report abuse

OMG!
I can't hear that old rat voice anymore(McCAIN) SAYS "MY FRIENDS" LIER!!!!!!!!!!


VOTE OBAMA BIDEN 08.!

NETHERLANDS ANTILLES


Posted by: fu_buki | October 28, 2008 6:18 PM | Report abuse

The Dems ought to cut Obama loose.

This Marxist in short-pants, who is on film praising people like Farrakhan, Wright, Ayers, etc... will bring the Democrat party into turmoil when he loses on Nov. 4.

Posted by: pgr88 | October 28, 2008 6:17 PM | Report abuse

I would prefer to have a Democratic majority and see a third or fourth party get some seats in 2010.

Right now the Republican party is bankrupt.

My father, who is 68, voted for the first time in his life in Maine: straight Democrat.

The last 8 years says it all.

Posted by: storyofthefifthpeach | October 28, 2008 6:17 PM | Report abuse

Leapin wrote: "If your gay don't you have to be a Democrat like if your black."

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From my (admittedly limited) understanding of how it works, if you're openly gay, then you're a Democrat. But if you're secretly gay, and hate yourself so much because of it that you try to pass legislation that would make openly gay people's lives more difficult than they had to be, then you are a Republican.legislation that would make openly gay people's lives more difficult than they had to be, then you are a Republican.

Posted by: tsawyer_mv | October 28, 2008 6:17 PM | Report abuse

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Exactly right he's racist. Just listen to Irreverend Wrong, his pastor for many, many years.


Exactly right he's socialist. Just listen to him admit it to Joe the Plumber, or his interviews in the past.


Exactly right he's a rotten human being. Just look at his abortion voting record.


Exactly right he has questionable judgment. Just look at his associations with people in his past.


Exactly right he's corrupt. Just look at the Rezko land deal.


Exactly right he's a liar. Just look at what he says about taxes vs. how he's actually voted.


Exactly right he has no executive experience. Just look at his resume -- or lack thereof.


Exactly right he's secretive. Just look at his lack of birth certificate, SAT scores, grades, etc. etc., etc.


Exactly right he'll be challenged in his first 6 months of office if elected. Just look at what he says about meeting unconditionally with world leaders.


We cannot be SERIOUS about electing this guy!! Obama in charge of nukes?! What. The.


Sorry George Washington, we messed everything up.


We stopped demanding the best people in the White House.

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Posted by: 37thandOSt | October 28, 2008 6:16 PM | Report abuse

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Exactly right he's racist. Just listen to Irreverend Wrong, his pastor for many, many years.


Exactly right he's socialist. Just listen to him admit it to Joe the Plumber, or his interviews in the past.


Exactly right he's a rotten human being. Just look at his abortion voting record.


Exactly right he has questionable judgment. Just look at his associations with people in his past.


Exactly right he's corrupt. Just look at the Rezko land deal.


Exactly right he's a liar. Just look at what he says about taxes vs. how he's actually voted.


Exactly right he has no executive experience. Just look at his resume -- or lack thereof.


Exactly right he's secretive. Just look at his lack of birth certificate, SAT scores, grades, etc. etc., etc.


Exactly right he'll be challenged in his first 6 months of office if elected. Just look at what he says about meeting unconditionally with world leaders.


We cannot be SERIOUS about electing this guy!! Obama in charge of nukes?! What. The.


Sorry George Washington, we messed everything up.


We stopped demanding the best people in the White House.

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Posted by: 37thandOSt | October 28, 2008 6:16 PM | Report abuse

MANY PEOPLE ARE NOT REALIZING THE DIRE GRAVITY OF THE SITUATION OUR COUNTRY IS IN RIGHT NOW. PEOPLE, WE ARE ON THE BRINK OF SELF-DESTRUCTION! THE CHOICE YOU MAKE NEXT WEEK WILL DETERMINE THE FATE OF OUR COUNTRY. LET ME SAY THAT AGAIN... THE CHOICE YOU MAKE NEXT WEEK WILL DETERMINE THE FATE OF OUR COUNTRY. THIS IS NO JOKE. IF WE CONTINUE IN THE SAME PATH THAT WE HAVE BEEN GOING--WE ARE DOOMED!
THIS IS INDEED THE MOST IMPORTANT ELECTION EVER.
EVEN WITH OBOMA WE ARE AT A SERIOUS RISK OF GOING INTO A GREAT DEPRESSION THAT WILL TAKE YEARS TO RECOVER FROM.
MY HUNCH IS THAT THINGS ARE PROBABLY STILL GOING TO GET WORSE BEFORE THEY GET BETTER. IT WILL PROBABLY TAKE A COUPLE OF YEARS FOR APPROPRIATE CHANGES TO SIGNIFICANTLY HELP OUR COUNTRY RECOVER.
MCCAIN OFFERS NOTHING THAT WILL CHANGE OUR COURSE.

Posted by: maphound | October 28, 2008 6:16 PM | Report abuse

Leapin wrote: "If your gay don't you have to be a Democrat like if your black."

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From my (admittedly limited) understanding of how it works, if you're openly gay, then you're a Democrat. But if you're secretly gay, and hate yourself so much because of it that you try to pass legislation that would make openly gay people's lives more difficult than they had to be, then you are a Republican.

Posted by: tsawyer_mv | October 28, 2008 6:16 PM | Report abuse

I would prefer to have a Democratic majority and see a third or fourth party get some seats in 2010.

Right now the Republican party is bankrupt.

My father, who is 68, voted for the first time in his life in Maine: straight Democrat.

The last 8 years says it all.

Posted by: storyofthefifthpeach | October 28, 2008 6:16 PM | Report abuse

"BO is religious fanatic Christain but gets a pass because he is a lib."

Is this what John Stossel is saying as well?

Posted by: DDAWD | October 28, 2008 6:16 PM | Report abuse

Sure is fun watching the conservatrolls disintegrate.

I don't think calling Obama a "socialist" in a blog is going to swing too many EVs to McCain.

Heh heh heh. Cold dead fingers.

Posted by: chrisfox8 | October 28, 2008 6:13 PM | Report abuse

"BO is religious fanatic Christain but gets a pass because he is a lib."

Is this what John Stossel is saying as well?

Posted by: DDAWD | October 28, 2008 6:13 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: fu_buki | October 28, 2008 6:13 PM | Report abuse

Barack Obama is not a "fanatic" Christian.
His church is mainline, not Religious Right.

Palin is the fanatic Christian in the race. She wants to dumb down our kids with Intellichimp Design Cretinism. She is a global warming denier. She's an "End Times" whacko who believes all that paranoid nonsense.

Barack Obama is a sane and respectable Christian man. Palin is a Bible-thumping whacko who isn't much better than one of those crazy Christian snake people.

And McSame? He cheated on wife #1 with Cindy. I think that might be a sin or something.

Posted by: TomIII | October 28, 2008 6:10 PM | Report abuse


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Exactly right he's racist. Just listen to Irreverend Wrong, his pastor for many, many years.

Exactly right he's socialist. Just listen to him admit it to Joe the Plumber, or his interviews in the past.

Exactly right he's a rotten human being. Just look at his abortion voting record.

Exactly right he has questionable judgment. Just look at his associations with people in his past.

Exactly right he's corrupt. Just look at the Rezko land deal.

Exactly right he's a liar. Just look at what he says about taxes vs. how he's actually voted.

Exactly right he has no executive experience. Just look at his resume -- or lack thereof.

Exactly right he's secretive. Just look at his lack of birth certificate, SAT scores, grades, etc. etc., etc.

Exactly right he'll be challenged in his first 6 months of office if elected. Just look at what he says about meeting unconditionally with world leaders.

We cannot be SERIOUS about electing this guy!! Obama in charge of nukes?! What. The.

Sorry George Washington, we messed everything up.

We stopped demanding the best people in the White House.


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Posted by: 37thandOSt | October 28, 2008 6:05 PM | Report abuse

"Socialism is more about government rather than private ownership of production and services than it is about taxation of the wealthy versus the poor. Obama is not proposing anything with respect to government ownership of production and services"

Give him time he's working on it.

Posted by: leapin | October 28, 2008 6:05 PM | Report abuse

Sure is fun watching the conservatrolls disintegrate.

I don't think calling Obama a "socialist" in a blog is going to swing too many EVs to McCain.

Heh heh heh. Cold dead fingers.

Posted by: chrisfox8 | October 28, 2008 6:05 PM | Report abuse

Why don't the Repukes just change their name to the Communist party?

When the Repukes sponsored the Bailout bill, they went Commie.

I love to call Repukes "Comrade", it really gets their goat.

Because deep down they know I'm right. Chimpy and Paulson are a couple of Commies.

Posted by: TomIII | October 28, 2008 6:00 PM | Report abuse

John McCain: Economic Disaster

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4egXbhSOhk

Posted by: WVUWEIRTON | October 28, 2008 5:58 PM | Report abuse

DrainYou-

BO is religious fanatic Christain but gets a pass because he is a lib.

Posted by: leapin | October 28, 2008 5:57 PM | Report abuse

it's interesting that the GOP is trying to get Sen. Lieberman to switch his allegiance to them vs his Independent status though caucusing with the Democrats.

And it's interesting that Joe suddenly started making "nice-nice" to Barack Obama, calling him very intelligent. Of course it's no small matter to him that the Dems could strip him of his chairmanship of the Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee as payback for scorning Obama in favor of John McCain.

Will he jump to the GOP? I doubt it because he's up for re-election in 2012, the same year as the next presidential campaign. With CT becoming even more aligned with Democrats he has everything to lose and little to gain by listening to their siren song - and voters in Connecticut have long enough memories that they could (this time) toss him out of office for his support of Bush's war, not to mention his pal, John McCain.

Then, too, there's little chance he'll run for President on either ticket, especially as a Republican since Gov. Palin might well be a formidable opponent in the primaries, given how far right the GOP's base has become that they'll buy into her Looney Tunes idea that she's qualified for more than...hmmm, I don't know what...on the national level.

Posted by: can8tiv | October 28, 2008 5:57 PM | Report abuse

it's interesting that the GOP is trying to get Sen. Lieberman to switch his allegiance to them vs his Independent status though caucusing with the Democrats.

And it's interesting that Joe suddenly started making "nice-nice" to Barack Obama, calling him very intelligent. Of course it's no small matter to him that the Dems could strip him of his chairmanship of the Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee as payback for scorning Obama in favor of John McCain.

Will he jump to the GOP? I doubt it because he's up for re-election in 2012, the same year as the next presidential campaign. With CT becoming even more aligned with Democrats he has everything to lose and little to gain by listening to their siren song - and voters in Connecticut have long enough memories that they could (this time) toss him out of office for his support of Bush's war, not to mention his pal, John McCain.

Then, too, there's little chance he'll run for President on either ticket, especially as a Republican since Gov. Palin might well be a formidable opponent in the primaries, given how far right the GOP's base has become that they'll buy into her Looney Tunes idea that she's qualified for more than...hmmm, I don't know what...on the national level.

Posted by: can8tiv | October 28, 2008 5:57 PM | Report abuse

The cutting loose has already been done.

McSame cut Chimpy loose last week. He said Chimpy is "wrong" on the economy.

McSame knows Chimpy is death to his campaign and is distancing himself from the Chimp.

But that hasn't stopped Chimpy, he visited Repuke HQ today to rally the troops. Maybe he didn't get the memo.

Posted by: TomIII | October 28, 2008 5:54 PM | Report abuse

Zouk prevaricates:

Let's get this straight: Biden couldn't face down some tough questions from a local news reporter, but we're supposed to believe he'd be comfortable facing down Iran, Russia, and North Korea? And Biden is supposed to be the one on his ticket who's tough on foreign policy.

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By answering those questions,it would lend credibility to their assumptions. Funny how her husband is a GOP media consultant. Biden didn't fall for those "gotcha" questions which proves he's alot smarter than you. And the GOP party.

Posted by: jime2000 | October 28, 2008 5:53 PM | Report abuse

vote_with_your_brain-

You forgot to mention these scandals - Ted Kennedy (lifetime exemption award by the MSM), John Edwards (compassionate, non-conservative award), Tim Mahoney (rookie of the year award).

Posted by: leapin | October 28, 2008 5:49 PM | Report abuse

king_of_zouk Wrote :
As usual the AP neglects to add a (D) after his name. this is pretty much the fate of all Lib pols - jail, witness protection or death.
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I didn't add an (R) to the names listed below.

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Bruce Barclay, former Cumberland County commissioner, videotaped hundreds of sexual encounters — many with male escorts — using cameras hidden throughout his Monroe Township home.

Matthew Joseph Elliott, former aide to Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney, was convicted of sexual exploitation of a child.

Vito Fossella, the only Republican member of Congress from New York City, admitted to police to having a child out-of-wedlock when stopped for drunk driving.

Robert McKee, Republican delegate from Western Maryland, announced his resignation after authorities seized two computers, videotapes and printed materials from his Hagerstown home in a child pornography investigation. McKee also resigned his position as executive director of Big Brothers Big Sisters of Washington County.

Daniel Dean Thompson, 31, a Utah retailer of "family-friendly" tapes and DVDs (Hollywood films with the "dirty parts" cut out of them), arrested and booked into the Utah County jail on charges of sexual abuse and unlawful sexual activity with a 14-year-old.

Derek Walker, former Eagle Scout and candidate seeking the GOP nomination in a race for north-central Pennsylvania district, was charged with felony burglary and criminal trespass stemming from an encounter last year with an ex-girlfriend, during which he allegedly broke into her home and used his cell phone to videotape her engaged in an intimate moment with another man.

Posted by: elbuzz07 | October 28, 2008 5:48 PM | Report abuse

LEAPIN LEAPIN
HAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA


I'M UNDER FIRE WITH LEAPIN

NETHERLANDS ANTILLES

Posted by: fu_buki | October 28, 2008 5:48 PM | Report abuse

Ladies and Germs!


I give you your 2008 Republican Party!
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"This is what the Republican Party has done to us this year: It has placed within reach of the Oval Office a woman (Palin) who is a religious fanatic and a proud, boastful ignoramus. Those who despise science and learning are not anti-elitist. They are morally and intellectually slothful people who are secretly envious of the educated and the cultured. And those who prate of spiritual warfare and demons are not just "people of faith" but theocratic bullies. On Nov. 4, anyone who cares for the Constitution has a clear duty to repudiate this wickedness and stupidity."

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Here's the rest of the mavericky straight-talk, my friends:
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http://www.slate.com/id/2203120/
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Posted by: DrainYou | October 28, 2008 5:46 PM | Report abuse

Republicans can rise from the ashes (assuming they lose of course - it ani't over till its over!) by taking back their fiscally conservative, socially moderate positions.

Its simple really - "We will be carefull how we spend your money, we will defend you and we won't tell you how to live your life. All of you are welcome here"

Reduce the influence of "values" and neo-fascist candidates and present a center-right coalition to the American people. They will respond.

Posted by: toritto | October 28, 2008 5:44 PM | Report abuse

Leapin, George Will? How about an independent source for once.

Posted by: jimcummings | October 28, 2008 5:43 PM | Report abuse

John McCain's YouTube Problem Just Became a Nightmare

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEtZlR3zp4c

Posted by: WVUWEIRTON | October 28, 2008 5:43 PM | Report abuse

"Bathroom foot tapper Larry Craig"

If your gay don't you have to be a Democrat like if your black.

Posted by: leapin | October 28, 2008 5:43 PM | Report abuse

jimcummings -

What socialist sinkhole would be acceptable to you?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/26/AR2008032602916_pf.html

Posted by: leapin | October 28, 2008 5:38 PM | Report abuse


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Exactly right he's racist. Just listen to Irreverend Wrong, his pastor for many, many years.

Exactly right he's socialist. Just listen to him admit it to Joe the Plumber, or his interviews in the past.

Exactly right he's a rotten human being. Just look at his abortion voting record.

Exactly right he has questionable judgment. Just look at his associations with people in his past.

Exactly right he's corrupt. Just look at the Rezko land deal.

Exactly right he's a liar. Just look at what he says about taxes vs. how he's actually voted.

Exactly right he has no executive experience. Just look at his resume -- or lack thereof.

Exactly right he's secretive. Just look at his lack of birth certificate, SAT scores, grades, etc. etc., etc.

Exactly right he'll be challenged in his first 6 months of office if elected. Just look at what he says about meeting unconditionally with world leaders.

We cannot be SERIOUS about electing this guy!! Obama in charge of nukes?! What. The.

Sorry George Washington, we messed everything up.

We stopped demanding the best people in the White House.


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Posted by: 37thandOSt | October 28, 2008 5:37 PM | Report abuse

King_of_Zouk wrote:
"DETROIT – Former Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick was sent to jail for 120 days Tuesday, the finale to a sex scandal that destroyed his reign at City Hall and threw local government into disarray for months.

As usual the AP neglects to add a (D) after his name. this is pretty much the fate of all Lib pols - jail, witness protection or death."
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You should change your name to Rip Van Winkle. You have obviously been asleep for the past couple of years. When it comes to scandals, your family values party holds the crown. Serial harrasser Mark Foley, Bathroom foot tapper Larry Craig, Randy Duke Cunningham, Bob Ney....and the beat goes on. You need to retool your argument.

Posted by: vote_with_your_brain | October 28, 2008 5:36 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: fu_buki | October 28, 2008 5:34 PM | Report abuse

Republican Socialist! The first time in our history, the government is part owner in banks, financial instutions, and next it will be auto manufacturers. And tha smacks of socialist/marxist. The only things the Republicans won't do is health care and education for all. The two most important things to do for their citizens! I call the Republicans Socialist PIGS!

Posted by: msreginacomcastnet | October 28, 2008 5:33 PM | Report abuse

"Likewise John doesn't trust you. He doesn't have time to study science like Al Gore.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/26/AR2008032602916_pf.html"

Then he should stop pretending to be a scientist.

By the way, you do realize that both of your links refer to the same book, right?

You're a smart person. Of course you realized that.

Posted by: DDAWD | October 28, 2008 5:33 PM | Report abuse

DETROIT – Former Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick was sent to jail for 120 days Tuesday, the finale to a sex scandal that destroyed his reign at City Hall and threw local government into disarray for months.

As usual the AP neglects to add a (D) after his name. this is pretty much the fate of all Lib pols - jail, witness protection or death.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | October 28, 2008 5:26 PM | Report abuse

DDAWD-

""Hers one link. I can give more."

Could you? I don't trust John Stossel one bit.

Perhaps something with a little more detailed methodology, but I won't be picky."

Likewise John doesn't trust you. He doesn't have time to study science like Al Gore.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/26/AR2008032602916_pf.html

Posted by: leapin | October 28, 2008 5:24 PM | Report abuse

The Republican National Committee has been forced to waste its money trying to distance the Republican Party from George W Bush. Wasted money on Ted Stevens in Alaska. Wasted money on John McCain and Sarah Palin.

Let Barack Obama decide whether to appoint McCain as Ambassador to Iraq. I call on Sarah Palin to volunteer to live in the Green Zone, Baghdad, with her family. Gain even more foreigh policy experience. Savor the accomplishments that the military have made with 10B dollars/month poured into Iraq, an area the size of California.

Cut McCain loose? No way. Let Roger Ailes, Rush Limbaugh, drug addict, and the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth continue the comedy as they try to distance the Republican Party from George W Bush.

Posted by: kevten | October 28, 2008 5:23 PM | Report abuse

conservatives do seem to give more to charity than liberals, but that's because their donations to the nutjobs that preach at their megachurches count.

McCain was for Obama's tax cuts to the hardworking middle class instead of the comfortably rich (his labels) until he wimped out for fear of being accused of raising taxes even if he simply let the Bush cuts he opposed merely expire, so he just pulled some new labels out of his butt and the comfortable rich became the middle class, the hardworking middle class became the lazy minority poor, and the exact same tax cut he was for before it was Obama's he became against as socialist income redistribution.

And Biden told off that imposter of a reporter (who usually handles the health beat) who made the Marxist remark, after several other Fox talking points fed to her by her husband, who happens to be a Republican strategist. He told her she was a joke, which she was. Obama has already pointed out that if he's a socialist, McCain beat him to it (see above).

Posted by: JoeT1 | October 28, 2008 5:23 PM | Report abuse

YOU WOULD THINK THE MILITARY AND VETS SUPPORT McCAIN, BUT WE DON’T – CHECK OUT THE TRUTH ABOUT McCAINS VOTING RECORD……..

McCain's FACTUAL Military voting record

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1m30GlZCICg

Posted by: WVUWEIRTON | October 28, 2008 5:23 PM | Report abuse

OK leapin, let me add something to my request. Can you provide a CREDIBLE link?

Posted by: jimcummings | October 28, 2008 5:20 PM | Report abuse

In truth, the argument about the perils of single-party control may well be a more powerful case for Republicans to bring to voters in 2010 than it is in the final few days of the 2008 election.


This is very true. I'm sure everyone currently making this argument knows its true.

Posted by: billy8 | October 28, 2008 5:19 PM | Report abuse

Yes.

Have you seen Nicole Wallace on TV lately?
That's the right answer!

Obama will win this election by 11.6% over McCain. That's better than Ronald Regan over Mondale.

Posted by: kat7 | October 28, 2008 5:18 PM | Report abuse

AMERICA VOTE,VOTE IN MASS, THEN IN CONNECTICUT OBAMA BIDEN 08.!


NEANDERTHALAND ANTHILLS

Posted by: leapin | October 28, 2008 5:15 PM | Report abuse

"Hers one link. I can give more."

Could you? I don't trust John Stossel one bit.

Perhaps something with a little more detailed methodology, but I won't be picky.

Posted by: DDAWD | October 28, 2008 5:14 PM | Report abuse

AMERICA VOTE,VOTE IN MASS OBAMA BIDEN 08.!


NETHERLANDS ANTILLES

Posted by: fu_buki | October 28, 2008 5:12 PM | Report abuse

mack1 -

There are many more than you think. They are not all plantation dwellers. Other groups have differing opinions, thoughts,
etc. Why shouldn't blacks? You might be surprised that all don't play basketball.

Posted by: leapin | October 28, 2008 5:12 PM | Report abuse

No, the RNC should pour every single dime into getting McCain elected!

That's my advice, anyway. Cut losses, come back in 2012 with Caribou Barbie.

Posted by: dpc2003 | October 28, 2008 5:10 PM | Report abuse

Obama has a history in Illinois of steamrolling everyone who is standing in his way of getting what he wants. He and his Illinois handlers did everything they could to get opponents off the Illinois senate democratic ballot. His final "compassionate" act was to embarrass the last opponent into pulling out of the race. Obama and his team got that man's sealed divorce papers unsealed and didn't care about embarrassing the man's wife and children. Obama was the only one left on the ballot and ran unopposed.

The steamrolling continued during the primaries, and no matter what Hillary, her campaign managers and Bill did or said, Obama and his handlers threw roadblocks everywhere. They wanted Hillary out of the race. Now they are doing the same thing to McCain and Palin. I wouldn't doubt that they are the ones behind this kind of article. Just plant the seed and see where it goes. Obama and his team are ruthless, and even if his supporters would get in his way, he would steamroll them too. Obama is the smiling assassin.

Posted by: mafox1 | October 28, 2008 5:10 PM | Report abuse

mibrooks27 wrote:
leapin - Have you read anything about Sweden/ Have you even ever been there? I, and my family, lived in Sweden and Sweden is no more "socialist" than Texas. What Sweden has are completely sane safety nets, a universal health care system (a national HMO, *NOT* socialized medicine), and a basic retirement system, and an aggresive program to see to it that everyone works. Business taxes are purposefully low, but they are regulated. The consequence of this is very low unemployment, virtually no one on welfare, *zero* national debt, and that country is isolated from the economic mess that haunts the predatory dog-eat-dog style of capitalism that took hold here after Bush and the neocon's took control. Oh, and Denmark and Norway have no national debt either and have thriving economies today. If more American's were really familiar with the Scandinavian model, the GOP would be extinct and we would be actually competing in the world rather than selling off our jobs and factories and technology to feed the appetites of a few wealthy treasonous Wall Street swine.
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Too true. I spent only a month in Norway doing research at a university in Trondheim, but in that time I was surprised at how good the living conditions were, how generally healthy the people were, and how safe it was - children of maybe 7-10 were able to ride the local buses with no parental accompaniment. Furthermore, not once did I encounter a "bum" or homeless person on the streets. Conversely - and this would be difficult to argue for - food, alcohol, cigarettes, gas, etc. were somewhat expensive. This appeared to have a positive net effect however, given the general health of the Norwegians. It was not perfect, but it was close.

Posted by: SteadyState | October 28, 2008 5:10 PM | Report abuse

jimcummings -

Hers one link. I can give more.

http://abcnews.go.com/2020/Story?id=2682730&page=1

Posted by: leapin | October 28, 2008 5:07 PM | Report abuse

Leapin

What kind of soup? Rock Soup?


Lighten up, the stress is going to kill you.

Posted by: elbuzz07 | October 28, 2008 5:05 PM | Report abuse

"Should GOP Cut McCain Loose?"

Now you're talking, Chris.
For the first time ever, I'm proud of you.

I mean, even Republicans have to have SOME standards.

Posted by: wardropper | October 28, 2008 5:05 PM | Report abuse

"Should GOP Cut McCain Loose?"

Now you're talking, Chris.
For the first time ever, I'm proud of you.

Posted by: wardropper | October 28, 2008 5:04 PM | Report abuse

Democrats for John McCain and Sarah Palin in 2008

Posted by: hclark1 | October 28, 2008 5:04 PM | Report abuse

sage reader = propoganda peddler

Posted by: jimcummings | October 28, 2008 5:04 PM | Report abuse

LEAPIN LEAPIN!
HAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NETHERLANDS ANTILLES

Posted by: fu_buki | October 28, 2008 5:04 PM | Report abuse

"The Dems clearly are the party of diversity, the big tent."

Unless you are a conservative black man. Then the party turns ugly.

Posted by: leapin | October 28, 2008 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Yeah leapin, those five dudes have it rough.

Posted by: mack1 | October 28, 2008 4:58 PM | Report abuse

Monica-

For one thing BO doesn't have a close relationship (supposedly) to Reverend Wright. The fact that Wright was his inspiration for his best selling book and its title is irrelevant (supposedly).

Posted by: leapin | October 28, 2008 4:58 PM | Report abuse

BOTTOM LINE: NO TAX CUT BY OBAMA

OBAMA's PLAN MAKES ALL AMERICANS PAY HIGHER TAXES

Senator Obama is not being truthful when he says only Americans earning $250,000 will get a tax increase.

Senator Obama plans to let the current 2007 rates lapse. The rates under Obama will return to the higher 2000 level. Senator Obama claims that letting a tax cut lapse is not a "tax increase."

But requiring Americans to pay more taxes than in 2007 amounts to a TAX INCREASE.

For a married family, filing jointly and earning $75,000 a year, this INCREASE will be $3,074.

For a married family, filing jointly and earning $50,000, this INCREASE will be $1,512.

Even struggling American families making just $25,000 a year will see a tax INCREASE-- they'll pay $715 more in 2010 than they did in 2007.

Across the board, ALL WORKING AMERICANS WILL SEE SIGNIFICANT INCREASES in their taxes with Obama's plans.

Posted by: sagereader | October 28, 2008 4:58 PM | Report abuse

Let's get this straight: Biden couldn't face down some tough questions from a local news reporter, but we're supposed to believe he'd be comfortable facing down Iran, Russia, and North Korea? And Biden is supposed to be the one on his ticket who's tough on foreign policy.


I think John Mccain should go on a talk show and discuss this article. John Mccain is a phony and a coward who hides behind his POW BS.

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/coverstory/make_believe_maverick_the_real_john_mccain

JOHN MCCAIN, TRAITOR TO HIS COUNTRY, COLLABORATOR WITH THE ENEMY, MILITARY DISGRACE.
Ted Sampley, a Vietnam Veteran and former Green Beret, issued a CHALLENGE to John McCain "If you can show us that the information presented in our mailer is untruthful . . . we will Stand Down" This CHALLENGE was issued during an interview with INSIDE EDITION on January 17, 2008.
John, family members of Vietnam POW/MIA(s) have been waiting for more then 14 years for you to have the courage to face them eye to eye in front of the American Public - Here is your opportunity for some "STRAIGHT TALK." Stop hiding behind your fabricated "War Hero" persona. You know we can prove your collaborations with declassified government documents . . . It is time for the American people to get to know the REAL John McCain - the John McCain that the POW/MIA families witnessed during the 1991-93 US Senate Select Committee on POW/MIA Affairs .
Bring It On John! HERE IS OUR NUMBER 252-527-0442
*********** ************* ************** *********** ***********
Activists accused McCain of stonewalling the release of POW records because they contained evidence he had collaborated with the North Vietnamese.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoseBNetlEk

Posted by: popasmoke | October 28, 2008 4:58 PM | Report abuse

LEAPIN LEAPIN!!!

NETHERLANDS ANTILLES

Posted by: fu_buki | October 28, 2008 4:57 PM | Report abuse

How is it that Sarah Palin kept her most recent pregnancy a SECRET for 7 months? That is just crazy. There's only ONE reason a woman keeps her pregnancy secret like that, and it's because she thinks she's going to have an abortion. So Sarah went for 7 months putting-off aborting her down-syndrome baby, until it was too late, and nobody would give her an abortion in the last trimester.

Posted by: bigdaddyLA | October 28, 2008 4:56 PM | Report abuse

DDAWD wrote:

The world isn't Major League Baseball. There are a bunch of people out there who work and make less than $250k.

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I like the analogy. Shoot, I work my butt off and make just shy of $65K (after college and grad school - uh oh, he's an intellectual). $250K is COMFORTABLE living; I don't really get what the big deal is... so, you can no longer afford the gas prices on your gas-guzzler? Deal with it, should've thought of that before you bought such an inefficient automobile.

The fallacy here is that folks making an average wage don't work that hard. On the contrary, they are working hard; sometimes two jobs to pay the bills. When middle class wages are at a stand-still relative to inflation, do they not deserve tax-cuts? And the folks on the bottom who grew up in public school districts where education was not valued, nor by their parents... should they suffer as a result of the sins of their fathers (and mothers)? Certainly, there are people who make bad decisions, but in our judgemental society, rehabilitation is often overlooked; once wrong, always wrong is the view. Sadly, this has a tendency to occur more prevalently in minority populations, especially black communities. Left with few role models and a country that is just barely telling them they can make it, they fall into the same traps of quick money (which like the stock market assumes higher risk) that can result in jail time. We are failing our people and the GOP message is that it's a lost cause, which does little more than reinforce hopelessness. Of course, NONE of us taxpayers, what little or what large amount we pay, want to see our tax dollars wasted... but it all comes down to what your definition of "waste" is. Efficient, effective, small - but widely-reaching - government can work if we give it a chance (and time). The GOP doesn't want to give it a chance, for whatever reason. Too quick they forget that government

I argue that the economy likely has to move in cycles of self-correction. We are on a downswing where taxes will have to go up for some folks, we will have to reign in some spending while, and hopefully pay down the deficit. It seems like a cycle of Keynesian and Supply-Side is necessary, alternating with investment into government coffers and then back into the hands of the individual for business/financial investment.

This cannot be accomplished with the cut-taxes AND spend GOP that rides their popularity on divisive wedge issues, subtle racism, and xenophobia. You won't see me going anywhere near the GOP if they don't straighten their party back to purely fiscal responsibility.

Posted by: SteadyState | October 28, 2008 4:56 PM | Report abuse

"A recent study showed that conservatives give more to charity than liberals."

Care to provide a link to that study, or is this just another in a long line of ugly and dishonorable lies?

Posted by: jimcummings | October 28, 2008 4:54 PM | Report abuse

leapin - Have you read anything about Sweden/ Have you even ever been there? I, and my family, lived in Sweden and Sweden is no more "socialist" than Texas. What Sweden has are completely sane safety nets, a universal health care system (a national HMO, *NOT* socialized medicine), and a basic retirement system, and an aggresive program to see to it that everyone works. Business taxes are purposefully low, but they are regulated. The consequence of this is very low unemployment, virtually no one on welfare, *zero* national debt, and that country is isolated from the economic mess that haunts the predatory dog-eat-dog style of capitalism that took hold here after Bush and the neocon's took control. Oh, and Denmark and Norway have no national debt either and have thriving economies today. If more American's were really familiar with the Scandinavian model, the GOP would be extinct and we would be actually competing in the world rather than selling off our jobs and factories and technology to feed the appetites of a few wealthy treasonous Wall Street swine.

Posted by: mibrooks27 | October 28, 2008 4:54 PM | Report abuse

From Ms. Murray's column quoted above:

"On the defensive across the country and staring down an election that could see them reduced to an ineffective minority in the House and the Senate, congressional Republicans are offering a new argument to voters: the danger of single-party rule in the nation's capital."

Gee, I didn't notice any such reticence from the GOP when they were the party in charge. When did the RNC put that in the platform?

I hope the GOP enjoys itself out in the wilderness. Hopefully, the party of Lincoln and Eisenhower will use that time constructively and become a stronger and better party.

Posted by: Robert_B1 | October 28, 2008 4:52 PM | Report abuse

Zouk prevaricates:

Let's get this straight: Biden couldn't face down some tough questions from a local news reporter, but we're supposed to believe he'd be comfortable facing down Iran, Russia, and North Korea? And Biden is supposed to be the one on his ticket who's tough on foreign policy.

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Obviously you haven't watched the interview. Biden was great. Handled that wacko reporter with ease.


Posted by: wpost4112 | October 28, 2008 4:52 PM | Report abuse

"Notice that there was hardly a peep from the Democratic Party--controlled MSM about Sarah Palin being hung in effigy in W. Hollywood by the two homosexuals, a hate-crime by any standard."

Actually, it was on NBC Nightly News and Countdown With Keith Olberman, who named the perpretrator the "Worst Person In the World."

And by the way, it was done by one person, and he's not gay.

And then there's this: "Did you see that amazing video obtained by the Los Angeles Times of Sen. Barack Obama toasting a prominent former PLO member at an Arab American Action Network meeting in 2003? The video in which Obama gives Yasser Arafat’s frontman a warm embrace, as Bill Ayers look on? You haven’t seen it? Me, neither. The Los Angeles Times refuses to release it."

Actually, the Los Angeles Times has no such video to release.

You republicans have got to get a grip.

Posted by: jimcummings | October 28, 2008 4:51 PM | Report abuse

"Jesus must have been a socialist. He served the poor and fed the hungry.
He had some harsh words for the wealthy."

A recent study showed that conservatives give more to charity than liberals (who are more interested in redistributing other's money). By the way the harsh words apply to the wealthy, libs included.

Posted by: leapin | October 28, 2008 4:50 PM | Report abuse

Let's get this straight: Biden couldn't face down some tough questions from a local news reporter, but we're supposed to believe he'd be comfortable facing down Iran, Russia, and North Korea? And Biden is supposed to be the one on his ticket who's tough on foreign policy.

More importantly, this episode points to a very troubling pattern. Whenever confronted by difficult questions posed by people who haven't succumbed to the creepy Obama Hypnosis, the Obama Team’s reaction is to silence them. They did it to a Chicago radio station that dared to interview someone critical of Obama's past. They did it to Joe the Plumber, seeking to destroy him for daring to ask Obama a question about taxes. They are threatening to do it nationwide with the Fairness Doctrine.

You aren't allowed to raise Obama's middle name, Hussein. You aren't allowed to say that half of his family is Muslim. You aren't allowed to say that he was born to a Muslim father, which, under Islam, automatically made him a Muslim. You aren't allowed to discuss Reverend Wright. Or Bill Ayers. Or Bernardine Dohrn. Or Louis Farrakhan. Or Father Phleger. Or Tony Rezko. You aren't allowed to point out that so far, the Iranians, the Russians, the Syrians, Hamas, parts of al Qaeda, Hugo Chavez, the Castro brothers, and Kim Jong Il have endorsed him. You aren't allowed to ask him about the vote fraud or illegal campaign contributions being done in his name. You aren't allowed to say he's lying about his tax plan. Or about his past associations. Or his past, period.

If you raise any of these issues, you risk being punished, smeared, and silenced.

If this is the chill that has set in already, just imagine what it will be like once they take the White House.

Watch what you say. Or else.

And now, a message from our Dear Leader...

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Monica Crowley, Ph.D

Posted by: king_of_zouk | October 28, 2008 4:43 PM | Report abuse

"We need adults and, not just Americans-Firsters, but those who embrace the world regardless of border."

Why do we need to embrace the world? The world is wrong a good portion of the time. Check out the effectiveness of the UN.

Posted by: leapin | October 28, 2008 4:43 PM | Report abuse

"The Dems clearly are the party of diversity, the big tent."

Unless you are a conservative black man. Then the party turns ugly.

Posted by: leapin | October 28, 2008 4:38 PM | Report abuse

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Posted by: fu_buki | October 28, 2008 4:38 PM | Report abuse

I agree with pressF1 that there are some really great Republicans still hanging on out there even after the attempted Gingrich Republican Genocides of 1994-2000 where the centrists of his party were labelled RINOs (Republicans In Name Only) by the far-right of the party that had blood lust and were ready to devour anything to left of Idi Amin (sp?) I am thinking of the great Repubs like Olympia Snowe (ME), Susan Collins (ME), Lincoln Chafee (RIP), Crist (FL) ... leaders that can work respectfully with their counterparts in the Democratic party ... as Americans first, Republicans second.

I am a centrist Democrat and will be voting for Obama for that same reason. I want a responsible and open government run by professionals and not right-wing ideologues which the McCain of the past 8 years has embraced. We need adults and, not just Americans-Firsters, but those who embrace the world regardless of border.

Divided government is great. There will time for that in 4 years but for now the Democrats MUST take charge in order to fix all of the damage that has been done by the irresponsible Republicans in every agency, department and now household in America. Time for change. Time for hard work. Time for the Democrats.

Posted by: Linus66 | October 28, 2008 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Watch Barack Obama in 1995 praising Rev. Jeremiah Wright as "the best the black church has to offer"

Barack - if Wright is the best on offer, we are in TROUBLE!

http://www.stoptheaclu.com/archives/2008/10/28/obama-rev-wright-is-the-best-of-what-the-black-church-has-to-offer/

Posted by: pgr88 | October 28, 2008 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Insane Mccain supporter shoots kid with a rifle who was messing with his Mccain sign. At least he was not a skin head like some of the Mccain supporters.

Posted by: popasmoke | October 28, 2008 4:35 PM | Report abuse

McCain isn't the problem, bub. The problem is Bush and the whole lot of Republican arses that got us into the predicaments we now find ourselves in.

Now Republicans care about the people. LOL! You care about the peoples votes is all. Serve the people instead of your own pockets then you'll be ok. The nerve of these people!

Posted by: spitts00 | October 28, 2008 4:34 PM | Report abuse

"I pay my taxes (proudly) I kinda like having roads and bridges."

Then you'll love having soup lines !

Posted by: leapin | October 28, 2008 4:33 PM | Report abuse

Oh Boy!
Now right-wing evangelical hypochristians want to cut loose Whinig John 'cause Old Phart ain't useful no mo'.
....but they memorize and thump the Bible, go to church every Sunaday, and sing like hell.
What a bucnh of F*CKING HYOPCRITES.
THEY DESERVE TO LOSE.

Posted by: analyst72 | October 28, 2008 4:30 PM | Report abuse

Jesus must have been a socialist. He served the poor and fed the hungry.
He had some harsh words for the wealthy.

Obama is definitely not Jesus. His views on abortion are not defensible in many people's eyes.
But his beliefs in the common bond of humanity in America ring true and are the change that this country needs.

John McCain,
You cannot serve two masters.
Corporations first, Country last

Posted by: seemstome | October 28, 2008 4:29 PM | Report abuse

Why should the GOP bother to discard McCain, they are busy suppressing the votes for his rival in states like Georgia, N. Carolina and now we are hearing Colorado.

Posted by: tydicea | October 28, 2008 4:28 PM | Report abuse

DEAD AMERICAN PEOPLE VOTE,VOTE OBAMA BIDEN 08.!

NEANDERTHALAND ANTHILLES

Posted by: leapin | October 28, 2008 4:27 PM | Report abuse

FLORDA EXTENDS EARLY VOTING HOURS.

TALLAHASSEE - Citing record turnout, Gov. Charlie Crist today issued an executive order extending early voting hours so sites will be open from 7 a.m. to 7 p.m. through Friday and for an additional four hours over the weekend.

In Broward and Palm Beach counties, early voting sites had been scheduled to open from 10 a.m. to 6 p.m. on weekdays. The extended hours are effective immediately, the governor said.

"I have a responsibility to the voters of our state to ensure that the maximum number of citizens can participate in the electoral process, and that every person can exercise the right to vote," Crist said in a statement.

Early voting locations also will be open for a total of 12 hours over the weekend, as opposed to the scheduled eight.

In Florida 20% have already voted.

Posted by: popasmoke | October 28, 2008 4:27 PM | Report abuse

The world isn't Major League Baseball. There are a bunch of people out there who work and make less than $250k.

I am one. I work my A$$ off everyday.
I pay my taxes (proudly) I kinda like having roads and bridges.

Posted by: elbuzz07 | October 28, 2008 4:25 PM | Report abuse

I think the Republican Party should continue its current course.

True, I'm a registered Democrat, but that's what I believe.

The GOP needs its come to Jesus moment on November 5 and then decide if they want to be a party that conducts endless cultural war that sets American vs. American -OR- become a party that wants to change political culture -and this country - for the better. I think on a good day, Republicans have much to offer. But it's been a long time.

George W. Bush has been the gift to Democrats that keeps on giving...and so is Palin/McCain. Thanks!

Posted by: tony_in_Durham_NC | October 28, 2008 4:25 PM | Report abuse

As many people are saying, we've had enough filibustering and other gamesmanship. We are in a heap of trouble because our government cannot be allowed to work; the checks and balances work no better than did Wall Street.

The Dems clearly are the party of diversity, the big tent. That party can and will get things moving in a consistent direction---consistent in general, and most importantly consistent with the Constitution.

Go Obama/Biden '08

Posted by: rdepontb1 | October 28, 2008 4:24 PM | Report abuse

The GOP has lost touch with the conservative voters to whom the economy matters. More of the GOP trade/economic policies has turned off a substantial number of small business owners, conservative blue collar workers, those engaged in American based farming and manufacturing (not trans-nationals/multi-nationals). The perception of opaque bailouts of Paulson's buddies on Wall Street, valid or not - perception is real in the voting booth, add to the mix. The joint effort that brought about the sub-prime inspired collapse told folks in the heartland that both parties are derelict. Perhaps both parties listening to the constiturents in their districts would be the best advice.

Posted by: romarconsulting | October 28, 2008 4:24 PM | Report abuse

To DDAWD (and others who are confused about taxes):

For more than 20 years we have had a federal program called the Earned Income Tax Credit. It allows working people below the poverty line who don't make enough money to be required to pay federal income tax to get a tax "refund" check anyway. Where does this money come from? From people higher up on the income scale who pay taxes. This program was begun by Ronald Reagan. And McCain has voted to authorize it many times. It was expanded by Clinton -- and approved by the Republicans who controlled both houses of Congress beginning in 1995. If this is what you mean by "socialism," then Reagan and McCain are both socialists. Right?

Posted by: continental46@aol.com | October 28, 2008 4:23 PM | Report abuse

6 years of republican majority rule is fine, but heaven forbid, democrats get a chance to make changes for the people!

Posted by: jymbeau | October 28, 2008 4:20 PM | Report abuse

Republicans in total disarray. As in TOTAL disarray!

Can anything be sweeter? Not in this lifetime. RIP GOP.

Posted by: jrw1 | October 28, 2008 4:19 PM | Report abuse

"They just want(MCCAN) to diminish BARACK OBAMA."

Judging by the company he keeps he has already diminished himself.

NEANDERTHALAND ANTHILLES

Posted by: leapin | October 28, 2008 4:19 PM | Report abuse

AMERICAN PEOPLE VOTE,VOTE OBAMA BIDEN 08.!


NETHERLANDS ANTILLES

Posted by: fu_buki | October 28, 2008 4:19 PM | Report abuse

cut McCain loose? -- you have GOT to be kidding, the reason he's in the tank is that he threw McCain-ness away to run as yet another GOP neocon. they BROKE the nominee, and now they're complaining about it? let the GOP go to a crashing defeat, and then another in two years, and the final one in four years, and get rid of all those goofy neocon wreckers.

Posted by: swschrad | October 28, 2008 4:19 PM | Report abuse

"will put food on my table or help me keep my job . . . .

Posted by: simpleton1


and there we have it. the Libs expect the government to feed them and employ them. sometimes out of the mouth of simpletons, we end up with the truth.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | October 28, 2008 1:48 PM |"

Relax, it's just a figure of speech. It means to separate the real issues, like feeding and clothing one's family, from the bogus GOP wedge issues, like flag burning or school prayer.

I'm not much of a big-L Liberal, and I earn more money than most people in this country. But I wouldn't vote for the GOP if you paid me. They're incompetent and divisive and malevolent. No offense, but that's the truth.

Posted by: simpleton1 | October 28, 2008 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Missing in the argument is that fact that having a Republican president and Congress is not the same as having a Democratic president and Congress.

First, the Democratic Party is a much bigger, more diverse and, therefore, more fractious group to control than is the Republican Party. In fact, that's exactly why Republicans are so often elected with the votes of voters who say they are Democrats.

Second and at least equally important is the fact that three Bush terms have left the Supreme Court with a solid core of young ultra-conservative justices. So a Democratic president and Congress can't just so anything (we forget this because the Supreme Court and the Republican-led Congress have been such a Soviet Politburo-like rubber stamp for Bush). Any replacements (one or two) made by a President Obama will be of the oldest and most liberal members and won't change the balance of power, they will improve the balance of power.

Where can I pick up my check for doing the analysis that NO ONE is the media ever does?

Posted by: jjedif | October 28, 2008 4:19 PM | Report abuse

2008 Presidential politics is more fun to watch than some episodes of DISCOVERY CHANNEL'S Animal Planet, especially with regards to Republicans in the last 4 weeks.

Some in the conservative intellectual circles were saying McCain should replace Palin or Palin should drop out. Then the McCain campaign has started attacking GW Bush and some Republicans calling for a Republican presidency to counter a Democratic congress. Insiders in the McCain/Palin campaign are fighting and name calling each other. And now we have, congressional Republicans and strategists saying that McCain is a lost cause and that the RNC should focus on congressional elections and cut McCain loose.

It's like when animals eat their young...HA HA HA!

Posted by: AJ2008 | October 28, 2008 4:17 PM | Report abuse

Electronic Straight Tickets are too serious a matter to NOT consider when the main Vote is for the President.

WAAAYYYY too much is on the line here to allow a Bone-Headed Ego-Maniac to be Bone Headed right now!

Sarah Palin is a liability, who in all fairness was selected BEFORE the Credit Meltdown was finally Exposed!

She needs to step down-possibly run for Steven's seat;

And let Mitt Romney become McCain's VP!

THAT, is what is wanted, and needed!

Posted by: SAINT---The | October 28, 2008 4:15 PM | Report abuse

The Republican desperation to keep place and power is truely pathetic to behold. McCain tries to distance himself from the party, the party has steadily beaten him without mercy leaving him as their heir apparent to a country they've all but destroyed and Palin, seeing no chance with McCain in November, has broken her leash and turned on him with her eyes as the front-runner in 2012.

The Republicans are self-destructing in the wake of the damage they've done to the country and themselves. I can muster no sympathy for a party that bows and scrapes before their ubber wealthy financial enablers whose criminal activities they have made possible while they spit on the rank and file who mindlessly guzzled the Koolaid believing, foolishly, that bling allegence will allow them to share in the spoils.

The GOP deserves to be no more.

Posted by: bfjackjernigan | October 28, 2008 4:13 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, that Harry Reid, he's one dangerous lookin' hombre.

Har har.

Posted by: Glimpy | October 28, 2008 4:13 PM | Report abuse

Here is a really intestering article from a conservative financial/wealth management company. Hanlon explains why the GOP canidate doesnt make sense to republicans anymore. His ideas are flat and no longer represent the vast majority of the county.

http://www.greenfaucet.com/blogs/hanlons-pub

Posted by: macebruce | October 28, 2008 4:13 PM | Report abuse

"OH MY GOSHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!
YOU hear that AMERICAN PEOPLE, JOE the PLUMBER SAYS "a VOTE FOR BARACK OBAMA IS A VOTE TO DISTROY ISRAEL."

Right after the destuction of...

Neanderthaland Anthilles

Posted by: leapin | October 28, 2008 4:13 PM | Report abuse

OH MY GOSHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!
YOU hear that AMERICAN PEOPLE, JOE the PLUMBER SAYS "a VOTE FOR BARACK OBAMA IS A VOTE TO DESTROY ISRAEL."

They just want(MCCAN) to diminish BARACK OBAMA.

NETHERLANDS ANTILLES

Posted by: fu_buki | October 28, 2008 4:13 PM | Report abuse

"It seems in liberal math if you work and pay taxes you don't get a tax cut but

if you don't work and don't pay taxes, then you DO get a tax cut. get it???"

The world isn't Major League Baseball. There are a bunch of people out there who work and make less than $250k.

Posted by: DDAWD | October 28, 2008 4:13 PM | Report abuse

Is not it wonderful? It gives me such pleasure listening to and reading these people whom are so confused by hate that they cannot see their way out of a GOP manufactured paper bag. Presented with Barack Obama, an American born and educated man whose excellence in college has taken one old racist generalization off the table...his intelligence. His journey, post Law School graduation has been quite unusual for a President of the Harvard Law Review and his blooding in the Chicago Political machine has prepared him for anything that he may encounter in the regular world of American politics. His ability to learn and remember has been of immense help. Like many black people born in this part of the world, he does have some white ancestry and his seems to have been with his mother's total agreement. At least one of our Founding Fathers and one of our famous Dixiecrats had black children by a slave/employee and juvenile. In spite of repeated opportunities to justifiably get into the cesspool, Senator Obama has remained closer to the high road that many would have liked him to. Another good move. He is now ignoring taunts of Marxist, Socialist and other terms that the taunters, as usual do not understand. He is a Muslin, Muslim, Barack Hussein and other suggestions which are racist, ignorant and xenophobic attempts to degrade a major world religion. And yet he rises. Colin Powell has shut up the less unintelligent talking heads with a little, simple, kind and very obvious line about Senator Obama's alleged allegiance to Mohammed. So what? he suggested and they have all but shut up. Hopefully the GOP will learn that racism, though still in the pack, is more like a joker than the ace it once was. Some of their bigger mouths are silent and it is my opinion that, like me, they are waiting to see if my last sentence is in fact, the case. In the meantime, Senator McCain is going hell bent down this treacherous path seemingly aware that he does not have much to lose other than his name, so carefully reconstucted over the years.

Posted by: Draesop | October 28, 2008 4:12 PM | Report abuse

We're getting a little harsh here, people.

For the sake of goodwill and some American unity, I want to point out here that Charlie Crist is a good man. Say what you want about Republicans, Obama supporters, but this guy, the governor of Florida, believes in democracy and he believes in free and open voting and counting the votes. He just extended the voting hours because of the long lines. It's consistent with what he has done right along -- he's trying to make the election honest. McCain would be doing better if he had asked Crist to be on the ticket. If the Republicans ever manage to come back from the @ss-kicking they are about to receive (for which may the Lord make them truly thankful), it will be because of people like Crist.

Posted by: pressF1 | October 28, 2008 4:11 PM | Report abuse

The Republican desperation to keep place and power is truely pathetic to behold. McCain tries to distance himself from the party, the party has steadily beaten him without mercy leaving him as their heir apparent to a country they've all but destroyed and Palin, seeing no chance with McCain in November, has broken her leash and turned on him with her eyes as the front-runner in 2012.

The Republicans are self-destructing in the wake of the damage they've done to the country and themselves. I can muster no sympathy for a party that bows and scrapes before their ubber wealthy financial enablers whose criminal activities they have made possible while they spit on the rank and file who mindlessly guzzled the Koolaid believing, foolishly, that bling allegence will allow them to share in the spoils.

The GOP deserves to be no more.

Posted by: bfjackjernigan | October 28, 2008 4:11 PM | Report abuse

"In two years time, Republicans will have actual votes and measures to point to in order to make the case that Obama and the Democratic majorities in Congress have taken the country too far left."

Real objective commentary there Chris. Don't you mean "In two years time, Republicans MAY have actual votes and measures to point to THAT COULD make the case that Obama and the Democratic majorities in Congress have taken the country too far left."?

Posted by: hiberniantears | October 28, 2008 4:10 PM | Report abuse

Is not it wonderful? It gives me such pleasure listening to and reading these people whom are so confused by hate that they cannot see their way out of a GOP manufactured paper bag. Presented with Barack Obama, an American born and educated man whose excellence in college has taken one old racist generalization off the table...his intelligence. His journey, post Law School graduation has been quite unusual for a President of the Harvard Law Review and his blooding in the Chicago Political machine has prepared him for anything that he may encounter in the regular world of American politics. His ability to learn and remember has been of immense help. Like many black people born in this part of the world, he does have some white ancestry and his seems to have been with his mother's total agreement. At least one of our Founding Fathers and one of our famous Dixiecrats had black children by a slave/employee and juvenile. In spite of repeated opportunities to justifiably get into the cesspool, Senator Obama has remained closer to the high road that many would have liked him to. Another good move. He is now ignoring taunts of Marxist, Socialist and other terms that the taunters, as usual do not understand. He is a Muslin, Muslim, Barack Hussein and other suggestions which are racist, ignorant and xenophobic attempts to degrade a major world religion. And yet he rises. Colin Powell has shut up the less unintelligent talking heads with a little, simple, kind and very obvious line about Senator Obama's alleged allegiance to Mohammed. So what? he suggested and they have all but shut up. Hopefully the GOP will learn that racism, though still in the pack, is more like a joker than the ace it once was. Some of their bigger mouths are silent and it is my opinion that, like me, they are waiting to see if my last sentence is in fact, the case. In the meantime, Senator McCain is going hell bent down this treacherous path seemingly aware that he does not have much to lose other than his name, so carefully reconstucted over the years.

Posted by: Draesop | October 28, 2008 4:09 PM | Report abuse

OH MY GOSHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!
YOU hear that AMERICAN PEOPLE, JOE the PLUMBER SAYS "a VOTE FOR BARACK OBAMA IS A VOTE TO DISTROY ISRAEL."

Posted by: fu_buki | October 28, 2008 4:09 PM | Report abuse


... C O M M A N D E R * I N * C H I E F ...
___________________________________________
.......... J O H N * M c C A I N ..........
___________________________________________
................... V S ...................
___________________________________________
..... M A R X I S T . I N . C H I E F .....
O b a m a
--------------------
McLame got himself shotdown and captured in a war we never won...WOW, great qualifications for a commander in chief.....I'm voting for a winner OBAMA!!!!!!

Posted by: rcindallas | October 28, 2008 4:09 PM | Report abuse

King-

"An award for work done in the 70s. nope no political agenda there. He joins the other bozos Gore, Arafat and carter. clearly something is amiss in Sweden"

Come On, Sweden is a socialist state that recognizes failure when they see it.

Posted by: leapin | October 28, 2008 4:08 PM | Report abuse

"In two years time, Republicans will have actual votes and measures to point to in order to make the case that Obama and the Democratic majorities in Congress have taken the country too far left."

Real objective commentary there Chris. Don't you mean "In two years time, Republicans MAY have actual votes and measures to point to THAT COULD make the case that Obama and the Democratic majorities in Congress have taken the country too far left."?

Posted by: hiberniantears | October 28, 2008 4:06 PM | Report abuse

OH MY GOSHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!
YOU hear that AMERICAN PEOPLE, JOE the PLUMBER SAYS "a VOTE FOR BARACK OBAMA IS A VOTE TO DISTROY ISRAEL."

Posted by: fu_buki | October 28, 2008 4:06 PM | Report abuse

"An award for work done in the 70s. nope no political agenda there. He joins the other bozos Gore, Arafat and carter. clearly something is amiss in Sweden."

Ok, time to make the new list of all the liberally biased things in the world.

Nobel Prize Committee
New York Times
Wikipedia
Youtube
Pollsters
Book reviewers
Peanut butter
Tire irons
Toilets in the Northern Hemisphere
George Will, Peggy Noonan, and David Brooks
Google
Randy Johnson
Roberto Alomar against right handed pitchers
Cucumbers
Dildos
Blacks
Mexicans
Asians
Jews
Handicapped
Smart people
College educated people
Hollywood
Musicians
Catholics
Muslims
Atheists
Gays
Lesbians
People who have read a book
People who have read a book in Braille
Sick people
Young people
Swiss cheese
American cheese
Powdered donuts
People who own a computer
People who own a television
People who drive a car
Women
The ocean
Ants
Smart alecky list compilers

Any that I missed?

Posted by: DDAWD | October 28, 2008 4:06 PM | Report abuse

Liberty77 -- wake up,man. The federal budget is 3 TRILLION and climbing fast.

Posted by: bgreen2224 | October 28, 2008 4:05 PM | Report abuse

People who vote republican fall into one or more of the following categories:

1. homophobic
2. tax-phobic
3. selfish
4. religious hypocrites
5. mean spirited
6. hateful
7. sexually repressed
8. anal retentive
9. self-righteous
10. misogynist
11. redneck

Posted by: adrienne_najjar | October 28, 2008 4:04 PM | Report abuse


... C O M M A N D E R * I N * C H I E F ...
___________________________________________
.......... J O H N * M c C A I N ..........
___________________________________________
................... V S ...................
___________________________________________
..... M A R X I S T . I N . C H I E F .....
O b a m a
--------------------
McLame got himself shotdown and captured in a war we never won...WOW, great qualifications for a commander in chief.....I'm voting for a winner OBAMA!!!!!!

Posted by: rcindallas | October 28, 2008 4:02 PM | Report abuse

"Jesus had the same difficulty delivering his message to the masses. People become filled with hate in their heart and refuse to hear his words."

WTF. Obama? Jesus? Are we really making that leap? Damn, I wish Hillary would have won. She sure game him more of a battle than McCain did.

Posted by: hdimig | October 28, 2008 4:02 PM | Report abuse

CNN is beating the drum for McCain.
I have counted the word socialist or socialism in reference to Obama over 20 times in one hour. McCain doesn't need to spend money on advertising, he has CNN.
All of these segments portrayed Obama in a negative light.
Corporate media
Corporations first, Country last.

Posted by: seemstome | October 28, 2008 4:02 PM | Report abuse

"Jesus had the same difficulty delivering his message to the masses. People become filled with hate in their heart and refuse to hear his words."

WTF. Obama? Jesus? Are we really making that leap? Damn, I wish Hillary would have won. She sure game him more of a battle than McCain did.

Posted by: hdimig | October 28, 2008 4:01 PM | Report abuse

Liberty77 -- wake up,man. The federal budget is 3 TRILLION and climbing fast.

Posted by: bgreen2224 | October 28, 2008 4:00 PM | Report abuse

"An award for work done in the 70s. nope no political agenda there. He joins the other bozos Gore, Arafat and carter. clearly something is amiss in Sweden."

Ok, time to make the new list of all the liberally biased things in the world.

Nobel Prize Committee
New York Times
Wikipedia
Youtube
Pollsters
Book reviewers
Peanut butter
Tire irons
Toilets in the Northern Hemisphere
George Will, Peggy Noonan, and David Brooks
Google
Randy Johnson
Roberto Alomar against right handed pitchers
Cucumbers
Dildos
Blacks
Mexicans
Asians
Jews
Handicapped
Smart people
College educated people
Hollywood
Musicians
Catholics
Muslims
Atheists
Gays
Lesbians
People who have read a book
People who have read a book in Braille
Sick people
Young people
Swiss cheese
American cheese
Powdered donuts
People who own a computer
People who own a television
People who drive a car
Women
The ocean
Ants
Smart alecky list compilers

Any that I missed?

Posted by: DDAWD | October 28, 2008 4:00 PM | Report abuse

king of zouk...

get your meds ready...
the new voters this time around are going to send you to the nuthouse because they along with the rest of us, are not going to take it bent over like the rest of the republican faithful...
you take loyalty over honesty...
blind faith...did you hear that one?

BLIND FAITH OVER REASON...
YEP...THAT IS A TRUE BUSHBOT FOR SURE...
NOW WE CAN CALL YOU MCCAINTS...

Posted by: hemnebob | October 28, 2008 3:55 PM | Report abuse

I dont want a "game show" hostess as VP...

...With lies of the Palin/McCaint ticket...

I wonder if they even can fully understand the problem that they have created with this person as a VP Choice....

With the McCaint Campaign and their "spin" on this choice is so sadly moronic that the RNC/GOP card holders want to "dress her up" in a wardrobe that exceeds more that what they make in 4 years...on clothes...

The "elitism" of Obama who was shown in a Time magazine picture of his shoes worn, yet mcCaint has 500 dollar shoes...

If they wanted peeeuuu Palin to be more like "small town" America why did they not allow her to continue to by fasions from Walmart...what are they saying that "small town" clothing is for "rubes"...

This country is in such a mess from Bush2 the only place Americans COULD go is Walmart , they could at least afford them...

Putting peeeuuu Palin in Michael Jacksons jacket from "Thriller" and peeeuuu Palin "explaining" what the VP does was so pathetic and laughable..that more people need to see it...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_H1hKaHDSvg&feature=user

..Instead of spending 150,000 dollars on clothing, hiring a make up artist at 24,500 a month....

They should have hired a "fragrance consultant"..because their pathetic and laughable campaign...... stinks.....
10/28/2008 3:06:14 PM

Posted by: AlexP1 | October 28, 2008 3:55 PM | Report abuse

This is an example of liberal media's plot to portray Obama's victory is inevitable. In fact, the poll has been unreliable in this election cycle. Remember the Democratic primary in New Hampshire? Obama lead by 10 points? And what happened? Hillary Clinton won.
It’s all coming down to Pennsylvania. Obama has a slight lead (according to “poll”). If western Pennsylvania goes for McCain in a big way, like what it happened to Hillary Clinton, McCain wins the presidential election.
So, McCain supporters, don’t give up. This one will be the biggest surprise since the Truman in 1948, to the “liberal biased media”. Eat your crow, Chris.
Posted by: gwshening | October 28, 2008 3:41 PM | Report abuse
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Those people who voted for Hillary were Democrats. It was a primary. They will not be voting for Mccain.
By the way, do know any of the dynamics of why Truman won? He won for the same reason Obama will win. Truman ran a good campaign as his opponent fiddled. Obama has run a campaign that almost mirrors the Truman campaign combined with 21 century technology. Mcain more resembles Dewey then Truman.

Posted by: popasmoke | October 28, 2008 3:55 PM | Report abuse

Oh, you poor, poor right-wing nuts. Your distrust of all media except Fox News and wacky pundits has given you a false sense of security. Added to that, your distrust in facts (i.e. science - see Palin's paltry attempt at claiming federal funding for research has no added benefit to science in her fruit-fly example) and numbers (statistics)... maybe I shouldn't bother directing you to the website www.fivethirtyeight.com where the posters have taken time to compile all polls and run statistical models based on those polls. Look for an Obama victory of about 375 in the Electoral College.

Posted by: SteadyState | October 28, 2008 3:53 PM | Report abuse

""do you have a job or do you just post moronic comments all day long?""


I have one now, but am looking forward to all those "tax cuts" next year after I quit my job and no longer pay taxes.

It seems in liberal math if you work and pay taxes you don't get a tax cut but

if you don't work and don't pay taxes, then you DO get a tax cut. get it???

I know it is confusing. you must be able to understand that up is down to be a Lib. As in "the market is way up since Obama looks like he might win".

Or perhaps, "now that the surge has failed and the war is won, it is time to redeploy to Darfur."

Posted by: king_of_zouk | October 28, 2008 3:52 PM | Report abuse

Republican politicians have already cut themselves loose from McCain by failing to disclose that they ARE Republicans! What could be more telling (and more cowardly!) than publishing election materials that conveniently omit party affiliation?
These once proud 'patriots' who have already re-distributed so much of our wealth that we are likely to be unable to raise the capital we need and will suffer much lower growth over the next decade have little left to do but pray for the benefits of running incognito, thereby confirming the carelessness of the voter once again.
Republicans find themselves the melamine of politics and rightfully so.

Posted by: bgreen2224 | October 28, 2008 3:51 PM | Report abuse

It seems reality has a liberal bias.

Posted by: Liberty77 | October 28, 2008 3:51 PM | Report abuse

I think it is better for the Party to keep on supporting Mccain so that they can together take the dive next Tuesday.

There are a lot of foolish and naive people yakking in this blog and elsewhere who thinkthat increasing the tax rate for the wealthy and reducing it for the middle or lower classes is socialism. They are wrong.

Socialism is more about government rather than private ownership of production and services than it is about taxation of the wealthy versus the poor. Obama is not proposing anything with respect to government ownership of production and services. Rather, he is proposing a tax rate scheme in which everyone pays their fair share. Its the kind of tax rate scheme used until Reagan became President and the laissez faire economics notions popular before the Great Depression, came back into vogue.

For the second time in the last 100 years we can see the negative effects of laissez faire economics. Yet, there are some who tout it because they fantasize that they are Warren Buffets and J D Rockefellers instead of the everyday working folks that they really are.

Calling Obama's tax plan Socialist is just another fear play by McCain. It is sad to see folks naively buy into it.

Posted by: pbarnett52 | October 28, 2008 3:49 PM | Report abuse

Leapin,

We are spending $10 BILLION A MONTH in Iraq.

Posted by: Liberty77 | October 28, 2008 3:48 PM | Report abuse

Oboma is going to win the election and save our country from self-destruction. People are going to become fond of him and re-elect him with a big landslide in 4-years. The world will envy us for our president.

Jesus had the same difficulty delivering his message to the masses. People become filled with hate in their heart and refuse to hear his words.

*** OBOMA FOR PRESIDENT 2008 ***************************************

______________________________________________________________________________________

Posted by: maphound | October 28, 2008 3:47 PM | Report abuse

I think it is better for the Party to keep on supporting Mccain so that they can together take the dive next Tuesday.

There are a lot of foolish and naive people yakking in this blog and elsewhere who thinkthat increasing the tax rate for the wealthy and reducing it for the middle or lower classes is socialism. They are wrong.

Socialism is more about government rather than private ownership of production and services than it is about taxation of the wealthy versus the poor. Obama is not proposing anything with respect to government ownership of production and services. Rather, he is proposing a tax rate scheme in which everyone pays their fair share. Its the kind of tax rate scheme used until Reagan became President and the laissez faire economics notions popular before the Great Depression, came back into vogue.

For the second time in the last 100 years we can see the negative effects of laissez faire economics. Yet, there are some who tout it because they fantasize that they are Warren Buffets and J D Rockefellers instead of the everyday working folks that they really are.

Calling Obama's tax plan Socialist is just another fear play by McCain. It is sad to see folks naively buy into it.

Posted by: pbarnett52 | October 28, 2008 3:47 PM | Report abuse

YES! (are you joking?)

Posted by: johng1 | October 28, 2008 3:47 PM | Report abuse

you'll pardon my ignorance but rather than take your word for, I think I will trouble myself with waiting one more week to see how it really turns out. Obama has now sunk to an unimpressive two point lead. with so much going for him in the anti-R enviro, how come he can't pull ahead? Maybe it's his creeping socialism??? all the evidence was there but not reported. It took a quote from his own mouth to inform.

no wonder the press conferences were cancelled.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | October 28, 2008 3:33 PM ---------------------

I don't know where your information is coming from, but as usual it is all talk. Obama has a double digit lead. Hence, this article. Also, I do not believe you actually know what Socialism is?

Posted by: dorklord | October 28, 2008 3:47 PM | Report abuse

Senators like Stevens are always corrupt.
How can you stay in power 40 years and not be tempted?

John McCain has been in the senate for 26 years. Has he been tempted? I think Charles Keating could answer that.

Stevens and McCain, both are war veterans, both were military pilots and both are corrupt.
McCain has learned his lesson; don't get caught.

Posted by: seemstome | October 28, 2008 3:47 PM | Report abuse


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Exactly right he's racist. Just listen to Irreverend Wrong, his pastor for many, many years.

Exactly right he's socialist. Just listen to him admit it to Joe the Plumber, or his interviews in the past.

Exactly right he's a rotten human being. Just look at his abortion voting record.

Exactly right he has questionable judgment. Just look at his associations with people in his past.

Exactly right he's corrupt. Just look at the Rezko land deal.

Exactly right he's a liar. Just look at what he says about taxes vs. how he's actually voted.

Exactly right he has no executive experience. Just look at his resume -- or lack thereof.

Exactly right he's secretive. Just look at his lack of birth certificate, SAT scores, grades, etc. etc., etc.

Exactly right he'll be challenged in his first 6 months of office if elected. Just look at what he says about meeting unconditionally with world leaders.

We cannot be SERIOUS about electing this guy!! Obama in charge of nukes?! What. The.

Sorry George Washington, we messed everything up.

We stopped demanding the best people in the White House.


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Posted by: 37thandOSt | October 28, 2008 3:46 PM | Report abuse

thrh-

"Hmm. Ever wonder how the right-wing loonies have access to all these stories the MSM is sitting on and won't release?"

When Dan Rather notes the media is biased in favor of the Obama campaign, how can you continue to deny it?

Posted by: leapin | October 28, 2008 3:46 PM | Report abuse

Republican politicians have already cut themselves loose from McCain by failing to disclose that they ARE Republicans! What could be more telling (and more cowardly!) than publishing election materials that conveniently omit party affiliation?
These once proud 'patriots' who have already re-distributed so much of our wealth that we are likely to be unable to raise the capital we need and will suffer much lower growth over the next decade have little left to do but pray for the benefits of running incognito, thereby confirming the carelessness of the voter once again.
Republicans find themselves the melamine of politics and rightfully so.

Posted by: bgreen2224 | October 28, 2008 3:46 PM | Report abuse

Republican politicians have already cut themselves loose from McCain by failing to disclose that they ARE Republicans! What could be more telling (and more cowardly!) than publishing election materials that conveniently omit party affiliation?
These once proud 'patriots' who have already re-distributed so much of our wealth that we are likely to be unable to raise the capital we need and will suffer much lower growth over the next decade have little left to do but pray for the benefits of running incognito, thereby confirming the carelessness of the voter once again.
Republicans find themselves the melamine of politics and rightfully so.

Posted by: bgreen2224 | October 28, 2008 3:46 PM | Report abuse

The media's reliance on Frum, while self-serving, is disingenuous. The rats who left the sinking ship -- that they sank!! -- will not be in charge of revitalizing conservatism or the GOP.

Self-dealers and hucksters like Frum ruined the GOP. What brass to put in a claim to repair the wreckage!

Posted by: chrisinwien | October 28, 2008 3:46 PM | Report abuse

AMERICA VOTE,VOTE OBAMA BIDEN 08...!!!


NETHERLANDS ANTILLES

Posted by: fu_buki | October 28, 2008 3:45 PM | Report abuse

I love this talk of Obama's "creeping socialism".

I suppose those who talk this way feel that government cannot stand idly by while a Wall Street investment firm goes bankrupt due to irresponsible behavior, but must instead tax wage-earners in order to provide a "capital infusion" to protect the firm's shareholders. In their book, that's not socialism.

On the other hand, were the government to subsidize health care for a person who worked full-time their entire adult life without health insurance and unable to afford health insurance, should they suffer a heart attack in the 29'th year of their labors, now you're looking at socialism.

To those folks, I say, "Your day of reckoning with the US voter is swiftly approaching."

VOTE

Posted by: officermancuso | October 28, 2008 3:45 PM | Report abuse

The poor Republicants. Having had 6 years of total control, they destroyed our economy, military, and reputation. They even threatened the "nuclear option" in the Senate. They have brought this on themselves, and I feel no pity for the crooks, liars, and thieves. From Mark Foley, Larry Craig, Ted Stevens, Tom Delay, and so many more hypocrits in the Republicant party, I say good riddance. Let them all get together for a reunion at Gauntomino. And have Palin be the warden.
Republicants deserve everything they get.

Posted by: COLEBRACKETT | October 28, 2008 3:44 PM | Report abuse

To king_of_zouk @ 3:04PM

Now let's assume that the other 50 businesses employ anywhere from 20 people to hundreds of people for a total of about 250,000 workers.

... that nuance is lost on the majority of voters educated by the government
_______

Your 50 small businessses average 5,000 employees per business.

Good example. Who educated you?

Posted by: Galavant | October 28, 2008 3:44 PM | Report abuse

zouk:
are you retarded?
do you have a job or do you just post moronic comments all day long?
if 50 "small businesses" employ 250,000 people, that's an AVERAGE of 5,000 per business. do you know of any small businesses with 5,000 employees?

Posted by: jdisciullo | October 28, 2008 3:44 PM | Report abuse

Republican politicians have already cut themselves loose from McCain by failing to disclose that they ARE Republicans! What could be more telling (and more cowardly!) than publishing election materials that conveniently omit party affiliation?
These once proud 'patriots' who have already re-distributed so much of our wealth that we are likely to be unable to raise the capital we need and will suffer much lower growth over the next decade have little left to do but pray for the benefits of running incognito, thereby confirming the carelessness of the voter once again.
Republicans find themselves the melamine of politics and rightfully so.

Posted by: bgreen2224 | October 28, 2008 3:44 PM | Report abuse

I think it is better for the Party to keep on supporting Mccain so that they can together take the dive next Tuesday.

There are a lot of foolish and naive people yakking in this blog and elsewhere who thinkthat increasing the tax rate for the wealthy and reducing it for the middle or lower classes is socialism. They are wrong.

Socialism is more about government rather than private ownership of production and services than it is about taxation of the wealthy versus the poor. Obama is not proposing anything with respect to government ownership of production and services. Rather, he is proposing a tax rate scheme in which everyone pays their fair share. Its the kind of tax rate scheme used until Reagan became President and the laissez faire economics notions popular before the Great Depression, came back into vogue.

For the second time in the last 100 years we can see the negative effects of laissez faire economics. Yet, there are some who tout it because they fantasize that they are Warren Buffets and J D Rockefellers instead of the everyday working folks that they really are.

Calling Obama's tax plan Socialist is just another fear play by McCain. It is sad to see folks naively buy into it.

Posted by: pbarnett52 | October 28, 2008 3:44 PM | Report abuse

king of zouk...

did you see the amazing video obtained by the national enquirer of sen. john mccain toasting a prominent former PLO member at an arab american action network...

now see how stupid you sound?

yeah, i thought so...

Posted by: hemnebob | October 28, 2008 3:41 PM | Report abuse

This is an example of liberal media's plot to portray Obama's victory is inevitable. In fact, the poll has been unreliable in this election cycle. Remember the Democratic primary in New Hampshire? Obama lead by 10 points? And what happened? Hillary Clinton won.
It’s all coming down to Pennsylvania. Obama has a slight lead (according to “poll”). If western Pennsylvania goes for McCain in a big way, like what it happened to Hillary Clinton, McCain wins the presidential election.
So, McCain supporters, don’t give up. This one will be the biggest surprise since the Truman in 1948, to the “liberal biased media”. Eat your crow, Chris.

Posted by: gwshening | October 28, 2008 3:41 PM | Report abuse

Republicans force United States to become Marxist!. First time ever the Federal Government buys stock in Banks, Financial Corporations and before it's over probably the Federal Government will bailout Automobile Companies. And the Rebs say Obama is a socialist. They are a stupid joke.

Posted by: msreginacomcastnet | October 28, 2008 3:39 PM | Report abuse

It looks like the new GOP theme is Captain First-- as in throwing the standard bearer overboard. Rather than have the captain take the ship down, he's been given leave. Shakespeare had some words for this in Julius Caesar--- politics can be brutal --with or without a Brutus.

Posted by: ejgallagher1 | October 28, 2008 3:38 PM | Report abuse

Don't forget the math challenged Nobel Prize committee.

Posted by: DDAWD


An award for work done in the 70s. nope no political agenda there. He joins the other bozos Gore, Arafat and carter. clearly something is amiss in Sweden.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | October 28, 2008 3:38 PM | Report abuse

seemstome -

"As long as we are present in sufficient force in Iraq and keep paying tribute, the "surge" will succeed. How long can we afford the cost? A hundred years?"

I guess the answer, financially, would be as long as we are able to afford giving welfare tax credits to non-taxpayers.

Posted by: leapin | October 28, 2008 3:37 PM | Report abuse

Hmm. Ever wonder how the right-wing loonies have access to all these stories the MSM is sitting on and won't release?

Easy.

THEY MAKE THEM UP!

Posted by: thrh | October 28, 2008 3:34 PM | Report abuse

If he weren't black, the polls would reflect a landslide victory.

Posted by: mibrooks27


you'll pardon my ignorance but rather than take your word for, I think I will trouble myself with waiting one more week to see how it really turns out. Obama has now sunk to an unimpressive two point lead. with so much going for him in the anti-R enviro, how come he can't pull ahead? Maybe it's his creeping socialism??? all the evidence was there but not reported. It took a quote from his own mouth to inform.

no wonder the press conferences were cancelled.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | October 28, 2008 3:33 PM | Report abuse

"how will the NYSlimes spin the total failure of the three headed beast next year? Kruggman is going to have to twist and spin like crazy to get down to resemble up. Of course the math challenged, government educated Libs will never know the difference."

Don't forget the math challenged Nobel Prize committee.

Posted by: DDAWD | October 28, 2008 3:32 PM | Report abuse

Let's say that we have 1000 small businesses. About 950 of them, that would be 95%, employ one or two people each for a total employment figure of 1,200. Now let's assume that the other 50 businesses employ anywhere from 20 people to hundreds of people for a total of about 250,000 workers. If someone comes along and says 95% of small businesses won't be affected by his tax increases, how do you feel? You know that the tax increase is going to slam those businesses that employ 250,000 workers, while leaving the 95% of businesses that employ just 1,200 people alone. Quite a deal, huh. Aren't you impressed?
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Maybe the CEO's could take a pay-cut... just a thought.

Posted by: SteadyState | October 28, 2008 3:30 PM | Report abuse

"

Notice that there was hardly a peep from the Democratic Party--controlled MSM about Sarah Palin being hung in effigy in W. Hollywood by the two homosexuals, a hate-crime by any standard. Just imagine what the outcry would have been had the effigy been Barack Obama or Joe Biden. Arrests would surely follow. Headline above the fold news until Nov.5th. Journalists and editors writing editorials and comments using tons of ink and newspaper telling one and all how hatefull McCain, Palin and the Republicans are. And on, and on, and on. Jees, I bet even Chis Cillizza and the Washington Post would have noticed it.

Posted by: armpeg"

Then how did you find out, pegleg? Were you the one who sold them the rope?

Posted by: thrh | October 28, 2008 3:30 PM | Report abuse

What support has McCain had from the GOP. They never supported his candidacy and have done just about everything to tank it.... Do you really imagine that if the GOP, Karl Rove and others got together to support McCain that we would be in danger of voting in a racist, socialist who pals around with terrorists, convicts, anti-sematic/racist reverends and et... Get real.....

Posted by: lmcintyre | October 28, 2008 3:18 PM | Report abuse
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Whether that would be the case or not, who knows. But Mccain is one of the most hated in the party. It is hard to even think of anyone who even went out and campaigned for him. He is an A.O. and they could care less about him.

Posted by: popasmoke | October 28, 2008 3:30 PM | Report abuse

I am going to go up on the roof and scream my head off if one more time I read how concerned certain Repubs are about the need for "balance" in Washington. I agree with them but WHERE WERE THEY for the first six years of Bush when THEY ran everything and caused every single problem that we have. I am an Independent but I just cannot stomach any more of this. They deserve to have no more control of anything for at least 100 years!

Posted by: nana1ellen | October 28, 2008 3:30 PM | Report abuse

Oboma is going to win the election and save our country from self-destruction. People are going to become fond of him and re-elect with with a big landslide in 4-years. The world will envy us for our president.

***OBOMA FOR PRESIDENT 2008***************************************

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Posted by: maphound | October 28, 2008 3:29 PM | Report abuse

We need 4 more years of the eight years we have had under Bush. MCCain then gets reelected to give us eight years of the eight years we have had under Bush for a total of 16 Bush years. The Republicans will then have stolen all American taxpayer money, whoops they have already done that now. The US is now asking Liberia for economic assistance. Get these stinking Republicans thieves out of office and into jails. They have plundered the USA enough. And may the Republican party be sent to oblivion, never to return.

Posted by: MikeQ2 | October 28, 2008 3:29 PM | Report abuse

I think voters are smart enough to realize that our problems aren't due to single party rule, but rather, the party that happens to be in power is supremely incompetent. If you try and stuff squirrels into an ant farm, your problem is not homogeneity. Your problem is that you're trying to stuff squirrels into an ant farm.

Posted by: DDAWD | October 28, 2008 3:27 PM | Report abuse

It's interesting to observe that it's gone this far. I love it!

Posted by: haschnaase | October 28, 2008 3:25 PM | Report abuse

It may seem hardly worthwhile going to the polls to vote this election year, since ACORN and the media have already decided that Barack Obama is to be the next President of the United States.

Still, it may take more than voter fraud and media spin to put Senator Obama in the White House. Most public opinion polls show Obama ahead, but not usually by decisive margins, and sometimes by a difference within the margin of error.

There has been a history of various polls over the years projecting bigger votes for the Democrats' presidential candidate in October than that candidate actually gets in November.

Some of these polls seem like they are not trying to report facts but to create an impression. One poll has been reported as using a sample consisting of 280 Republicans and 420 Democrats. No wonder Obama leads in a poll like that.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | October 28, 2008 2:54 PM | Report abuse
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The squares like you don't have access to the polls the players do themselves. Polls done by the candidates are very pointed and reveling. Obama knows exactly where he stands as does Mccain. Why do you think Mccain is packing it in in some states and campaigning in other states. From the nervous tension, an almost afraid to believe it is really this good type of feeling in the Obama campaign. Most quietly are thinking landslide but would never come out and say it, they are all too superstitious. Mccains people it is already known have been sending out resumes and a few are fielding book deals after the campaign. They know what is going to happen and the rats are deserting the ship as they do their tell all books and cover their own a&&s.

Posted by: popasmoke | October 28, 2008 3:23 PM | Report abuse

Prattleinseattle: Unfortunately it will take a crushing defeat and years in the wilderness to rebuild the GOP - "values voters" + neo fascists represents a permanent minority party.

Building a viable center-right party means avoiding extremists (calling the Dem candidate a communist or terrorist is not the way to win). Additionally, the party should not pander to out and out bigots, religious extremists nor exalt the purposely ignorant and the high tatoo to teeth ratio voter as the great beating heart of America.

Finally I think the party must give up the idea of an imperial presidency and American Empire. Smaller, limited, non-intrusive government should be the message.

But hey, what do I know......

:-)

Posted by: toritto | October 28, 2008 3:20 PM | Report abuse

“Barack Obama's tax plans are all about punishing success and rewarding failure. He understands that if it weren't for failures, Democrats would be scrounging in the alleys for votes.”

Does this mean his constituency is Failure and he is uniting us thru trickle up poverty? As far as scrounging in the alleys for votes ACORN literally is. Cemeteries too.

Posted by: leapin | October 28, 2008 3:19 PM | Report abuse

What support has McCain had from the GOP. They never supported his candidacy and have done just about everything to tank it.... Do you really imagine that if the GOP, Karl Rove and others got together to support McCain that we would be in danger of voting in a racist, socialist who pals around with terrorists, convicts, anti-sematic/racist reverends and et... Get real.....

Posted by: lmcintyre | October 28, 2008 3:18 PM | Report abuse

Did you see that amazing video obtained by the Los Angeles Times of Sen. Barack Obama toasting a prominent former PLO member at an Arab American Action Network meeting in 2003? The video in which Obama gives Yasser Arafat’s frontman a warm embrace, as Bill Ayers look on? You haven’t seen it? Me, neither. The Los Angeles Times refuses to release it.

I never saw that!!! It was too difficult wading through all the Bush videos tongue kissing and fondling the Saudi men

Posted by: sickofit1 | October 28, 2008 3:17 PM | Report abuse

Consumer confidence plunges to lowest on record


coincident with Obama taking the lead in the polls. first we have the lowest rated congress in history, due to the PeLousy form of non-leadership and now we have the finance markets and consumer markets responding as expected to the Lib takeover.

how will the NYSlimes spin the total failure of the three headed beast next year? Kruggman is going to have to twist and spin like crazy to get down to resemble up. Of course the math challenged, government educated Libs will never know the difference. they actually think you can send tax refunds to non-tax payers. they don't understand that tax cuts usually end up in the hands of tax payers.

Until now. of course.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | October 28, 2008 3:17 PM | Report abuse

We are paying the Sunnis bribes to keep Al Qaeda at bay and to not kill Americans.
That is the reality of the "surge" McCain is so proud of. When the money stops the "surge" flops.

Like oil and water, the Sunnis and Shi'ites
will then separate into the areas they occupy in Iraq as the Kurds already have done.

As long as we are present in sufficient force in Iraq and keep paying tribute, the "surge" will succeed. How long can we afford the cost? A hundred years?

Posted by: seemstome | October 28, 2008 3:15 PM | Report abuse

Republicans: do not depart the plane McCain is crashing.

We need you in there!

Posted by: lichtme | October 28, 2008 3:14 PM | Report abuse

Republicans: do not depart the plane McCain is crashing.

We need you in there!

And why would you ever abandon a war hero?


Posted by: lichtme | October 28, 2008 3:12 PM | Report abuse

Frum's plan sounds a little like aborting a down-synfrome fetus (McCain) in order to keep the adult familiy (Republican Congress) intact.

Who won the Republican nomination, anyway? How did he get there? Strange cohabitation?

Posted by: Spectator | October 28, 2008 3:12 PM | Report abuse

to leapin: Glad you appreciate it, it was written about people like you.

Posted by: seemstome | October 28, 2008 3:11 PM | Report abuse

Palin isn't running for 2008. She isn't running for 2010, and she isn't running for 2012.

She's running for $25 million and 2-5 every day on Fox.

Posted by: Attucks | October 28, 2008 3:10 PM | Report abuse

Is Palin a Whackjob?


YOU BETCHA!


Whackjob: noun - A crazy, possibly dangerous, person.
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http://www.allwords.com/word-whackjob.html
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Politico brings word that McCain advisors are upping the verbal leak campaign against Sarah Palin, who must long for the days when members of her campaign were calling her a hockey mom and Josephine Six-Pack.


***In convo with Playbook, a top McCain adviser one-ups the priceless “diva” description, calling Palin “a whack job.”
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http://www.politico.com/playbook/
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Whack job. It's a good charge, cause it's true! This is one of my favorite leaks from the anti-Palin forces working for McCain, right up with the claim that she's "going rogue." Like Iran?


I've never seen a breakdown in discipline like this on a presidential campaign. It testifies to McCain's lack of leadership and to the state of his campaign. Knowing they're going to lose, Mittens' kittens are angling for advantage against Palin going into the 2012 primary.


Ah, yes, the coming GOP primary. Fantasize, my friends, with me. It's 2011, Obama and the Democrats in Congress have passed good progressive legislation to help bring us out of recession, institute universal health care, and end our dependence on foreign oil. Our troops are home from Iraq. Then we will all get to sit back and watch Sarah Palin, Mitt Romney, and whoever else fight for the right to lose to Obama.

Posted by: DrainYou | October 28, 2008 3:10 PM | Report abuse

This isn't about McCain for the GOP, but rather about their utter spiritual and moral bankruptcy. These buttheads just don't get where humanity and the world are trying to head.

Go to: www.buttheadpolice.com

Vote for extreme buttheads like McCain and Dubya to get asses stamped on their heads. LOL! Spread the word!!

Posted by: wakeupUSA1 | October 28, 2008 3:09 PM | Report abuse

Well, ole' McCain isn't going to pull this one out.

His chances for victory are going down faster than one of magoo's expensive jet airplanes after he has bailed out.

The plane crasher and the media basher (Palin) are done.

Payback is a b!tch.

I can't wait until Waxman starts calling all the 'loyal bushies' in for hearings and then starts handing referring them to courts for indictments. This is going to be FUU-UUN to watch!

Posted by: Heerman532 | October 28, 2008 3:06 PM | Report abuse

This isn't about McCain for the GOP, but rather about their utter spiritual and moral bankruptcy. These buttheads just don't get where humanity and the world are trying to head.

Go to: www.buttheadpolice.com

Vote for extreme buttheads like McCain and Dubya to get asses stamped on their heads. LOL! Spread the word!!

Posted by: wakeupUSA1 | October 28, 2008 3:06 PM | Report abuse

KOZ - My point, exactly. Obama does represent what most voters want. If he weren't black, the polls would reflect a landslide victory.

Posted by: mibrooks27 | October 28, 2008 3:06 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: RaZoR777 | October 28, 2008 3:05 PM | Report abuse

Frum is a complete idiot.

The Washington Compost is furiously throwing out various narratives in the hope that any chumps still undecided will believe them. Over the last weeks we have seen WaPo paint Palin as a Redneck, Palin as a fashion queen, McCain as leading a rabid group of conservatives vs. Republicans falling apart.

Not of it is consistent and it is all showing The comPost as an extremely biased "news" source. No wonder your readership is declining yearly.

Posted by: pgr88 | October 28, 2008 3:04 PM | Report abuse

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/10/28/virginia-trying-to-combat-misinformation-about-election-day/

It's not surprising that Republicans are pulling the same garbage they pulled in 2004, trying to convince Democratic voters that they shouldn't vote on November 4th.

What's telling about how this election is going is that the GOP is forced to do this in Virginia!

Now this, my friends, is election fraud.

Posted by: cam8 | October 28, 2008 3:04 PM | Report abuse

Let's say that we have 1000 small businesses. About 950 of them, that would be 95%, employ one or two people each for a total employment figure of 1,200. Now let's assume that the other 50 businesses employ anywhere from 20 people to hundreds of people for a total of about 250,000 workers. If someone comes along and says 95% of small businesses won't be affected by his tax increases, how do you feel? You know that the tax increase is going to slam those businesses that employ 250,000 workers, while leaving the 95% of businesses that employ just 1,200 people alone. Quite a deal, huh. Aren't you impressed?

The point here is that it's not the percentage of small businesses your tax increases hit, it's the percentage of small business employees. Unfortunately that nuance is lost on the majority of voters educated by the government, and the MoveOn Media sure isn’t going to take the time to explain it to you.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | October 28, 2008 3:04 PM | Report abuse

Under Obama a couple earning, for example, $70,000 and owing no federal income taxes at all will get several checks from Obama's federal taxpayer-funded treasury. These checks will be called "tax cuts."

So .. for those who don't pay taxes, here are some of the "tax cut" checks you’ll be getting from The Chosen One. I'm taking some literary license here and replacing the words "tax credit" with the word "payment." That literary flourish brings us much closer to the truth. Here are your goodies; come and get ‘em:

A $500 "make work pay" payment.
A $4,000 payment for college tuition.
A payment equal to 10% of your mortgage interest
A payment equal to 50% of the amount of money you put into a savings account up to $1000.
A payment equal to 50% of the amount of money you pay for child care up to $6000.
A payment of up to $7,000 if you purchase a "clean car." By that Obama means an environmentally correct car.
Plus ... an expansion of the earned income tax credit .. increased payments on top of your earnings if the government doesn't feel you are earning enough.
There you go ... Obama's "tax cuts." Sounds pretty good, doesn't it. Well, I guess it is, if you're not too successful it IS pretty good. Remember, the harder you work the lower these payments get. Barack Obama's tax plans are all about punishing success and rewarding failure. He understands that if it weren't for failures, Democrats would be scrounging in the alleys for votes.

It's rather ironic that the Obama campaign will go to the mat with critics over the definition of "socialist," but feel absolutely free to change the definition of "tax cut" to anything that suits them.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | October 28, 2008 3:01 PM | Report abuse

I'm usually in favor of divided government. I think some of Clinton's best policies came when he was forced to negotiate with a Republican House. But you know what? At this point, I'm willing to give the Democrats a couple of years to run with the ball. After 8 years of Bush coupled with 6 years of a Republican Congress, then sure, let's let the other side take a turn for a couple of years. If they really start to mess things up then we have the mid-term elections to push things back to the middle. And if they do a good job, then we re-elect our representatives and senators and let them keep on doing the job their supposed to do.

So in answer to your question Chris, I hope the RNC keeps pouring good money after bad into McCain's campaign and we see senators like Dole, Coleman, Stevens, etc. go down in defeat and the Democrats get a filibuster proof Senate. That's what I hope.

Posted by: lcaviness9 | October 28, 2008 3:01 PM | Report abuse

What! they unlocked the doors to the Institution and let all the Repub wing nuts out for a week?

So let's examine all the pale attempts to run down the Obama Campaign.

The Reverend! NOPE didn't work

Ayers! NOPE didn't work

Socialist! NOPE didn't work

Palin! NOPE didn't work

Disowned Bush! NOPE didn't work

The McCain campaign has been hopelessly outclassed in every respect, Obama stayed the course, never wavered, outworked, out organized, and just plain kicked McCains ass.

McCain flip flopped so many times, even he forgot what the hell he was talking about.

He had no chance to succeed, and there will be many in the organization who may be unemployed in about a week.

Posted by: kentaylor1 | October 28, 2008 3:01 PM | Report abuse

YOU WOULD THINK THE MILITARY AND VETS SUPPORT McCAIN, BUT WE DON’T – CHECK OUT THE TRUTH ABOUT McCAINS VOTING RECORD……..

McCain's FACTUAL Military voting record

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1m30GlZCICg

Posted by: WVUWEIRTON | October 28, 2008 2:58 PM | Report abuse

On the contrary, I think McCain should cut the GOP loose from himself and end this campaign on a note of dignancy. McCain's loss of viability as President is directly related to his need to appeal to the base of the party; this alienated a great deal of independents and fiscally conservative Democrats. McCain is losing because of the direction in which the GOP has gone and in which he had to follow to shore up enough Republican votes. This is a man for which I used to have a great deal of respect and the current state of the GOP ruined him.

Posted by: SteadyState | October 28, 2008 2:58 PM | Report abuse

On the contrary, I think McCain should cut the GOP loose from himself and end this campaign on a note of dignancy. McCain's loss of viability as President is directly related to his need to appeal to the base of the party; this alienated a great deal of independents and fiscally conservative Democrats. McCain is losing because of the direction in which the GOP has gone and in which he had to follow to shore up enough Republican votes. This is a man for which I used to have a great deal of respect and the current state of the GOP ruined him.

Posted by: SteadyState | October 28, 2008 2:58 PM | Report abuse

Obama is a moderate that represents the thinking and wishes of the vast majority of voters.
mike b.

Yeah, a vast majority of 49 to 46. not vast and not a majority.

I can already hear the Libs crying out mandate. We won by a point!!!

Posted by: king_of_zouk | October 28, 2008 2:58 PM | Report abuse

Give it to the Palin cabal for their Alaskan-sized stones. Our political history is filled with VP candidates said to be drags on the ticket - the Palin coterie (Kristol, Barnes, etc.) are brazen enough to posit that it's McCain who is the drag on the ticket.

For Palin to have a shot at the Prez in 2012, she will have to either wrest the presidency from McCain's hands, or hope that Obama is caught in an unnatural act. She will also have to beat out a field of GOP adults, or worse, appear in a debate with the one candidate she should be afraid of - Hillary. Do you think Hill would pull any punches like Obama/Biden have done so far with Kato Palin?

Is it true that the GOP is thinking of dirching McCain on the eve of the election and having Kato run with Joe the Plumber as her running mate?

Posted by: bondjedi | October 28, 2008 2:58 PM | Report abuse

If Obama wins the NeoCons are dead. If McCain wins they will still be alive and well. Foreign policy will not change under McCain. He already has indicated his desire to confront Iran and Russia.
The corporations backing him will profit from the tax money for his new enterprises.
Where does this money come from? From the middle class of course. What about the middle class jobs and infrastructure in America? We have to have a spending freeze for non essential programs so that the wars can go on ---- forever.

Posted by: seemstome | October 28, 2008 2:57 PM | Report abuse

Republicans can rise from the ashes (assuming they lose of course - it ani't over till its over!) by taking back their fiscally conservative, socially moderate positions.

Its simple really - "We will be carefull how we spend your money, we will defend you and we won't tell you how to live your life. All of you are welcome here"

Reduce the influence of "values" and neo-fascist candidates and present a center-right coalition to the American people. They will respond.

:-)

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Spot on, Toritto. What you describe is the GOP that I left back in 1992 because it was already showing the trend away from those values. Power at any cost caused the GOP to sell its soul to the Christian right (which is neither Christian, nor right).

The former party of individual liberties and keeping the govenment off our backs has gone in exactly the opposite direction, and now its time to pay the piper.

Posted by: PrattleinSeattle | October 28, 2008 2:56 PM | Report abuse

It may seem hardly worthwhile going to the polls to vote this election year, since ACORN and the media have already decided that Barack Obama is to be the next President of the United States.

Still, it may take more than voter fraud and media spin to put Senator Obama in the White House. Most public opinion polls show Obama ahead, but not usually by decisive margins, and sometimes by a difference within the margin of error.

There has been a history of various polls over the years projecting bigger votes for the Democrats' presidential candidate in October than that candidate actually gets in November.

Some of these polls seem like they are not trying to report facts but to create an impression. One poll has been reported as using a sample consisting of 280 Republicans and 420 Democrats. No wonder Obama leads in a poll like that.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | October 28, 2008 2:54 PM | Report abuse

AsperGirl said, "It will be funny to see, if McCain pulls out a win,....."

It will be funny indeed because it will only happen in comedy. hahaha

Posted by: jellybean1 | October 28, 2008 2:54 PM | Report abuse

When you get right down to it, Obama is a moderate that represents the thinking and wishes of the vast majority of voters. McCain, for all of his (former) maverick charm, does not and Palin is so far away from the mainstream that she is truly frightening. The only reason that this election is close at all is because Obama is black and there are a few people of there who have managed to be convinced that Obama is saying one thing and will do another once elected. The later implies a degree of cynicism heretofore unheard of in Presidential politics (but, maybe 8 years of Bush has caused that). No, I think that racism is the genuine reason that this contest is close. There are people, so filled with hatred and ignorance and bigotry that they will commit economic and social suicide and vote for McCain knowing full well that this will result in her own job loss, the destruction of their family, result in their children suffering, and even gambling on the very survival of this country. THAT implies a degree of insanity that is hard to stomach.

Posted by: mibrooks27 | October 28, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Wow, now even AsperGirl is giving McCCain up for dead. "If McCain wins", not "WHEN McCain wins"?

Abandon ship! Everybody for themselves! But of course, at least that is consistent with Republican philosophy. Never do anything for the collective good, only give advantage to the individual.

Posted by: PrattleinSeattle | October 28, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse


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McCain will win as voters come to their senses.


Obama will be exposed and jailed for voter fraud.


Biden will get his own tv show based on gaffes and bloppers.

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Posted by: 37thandOSt | October 28, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Call him Plane Crasher,

and step back from the flames.

Posted by: lichtme | October 28, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse

No More Floridas? Pew: Obama Leads by 19 percent among those who have already voted: "McCain Support Continues Downward Spiral. Obama Leads by 19 Among Those Who Have Already Voted. Barack Obama leads John McCain by a 52% to 36% margin in Pew’s latest nationwide survey of 1,325 registered voters."

Posted by: osullivanc1 | October 28, 2008 2:48 PM | Report abuse

Notice that there was hardly a peep from the Democratic Party--controlled MSM about Sarah Palin being hung in effigy in W. Hollywood by the two homosexuals, a hate-crime by any standard. Just imagine what the outcry would have been had the effigy been Barack Obama or Joe Biden. Arrests would surely follow. Headline above the fold news until Nov.5th. Journalists and editors writing editorials and comments using tons of ink and newspaper telling one and all how hatefull McCain, Palin and the Republicans are. And on, and on, and on. Jees, I bet even Chis Cillizza and the Washington Post would have noticed it.

Posted by: armpeg | October 28, 2008 2:47 PM | Report abuse

Republicans can rise from the ashes (assuming they lose of course - it ani't over till its over!) by taking back their fiscally conservative, socially moderate positions.

Its simple really - "We will be carefull how we spend your money, we will defend you and we won't tell you how to live your life. All of you are welcome here"

Reduce the influence of "values" and neo-fascist candidates and present a center-right coalition to the American people. They will respond.

:-)

Posted by: toritto | October 28, 2008 2:44 PM | Report abuse

The problem with the United States is simple.
They are poor mathmaticians. Thats strange for some people who claim to be democratic capitolist!

For instance. Most Americans want more jobs. But if you ask them, would they like to get paid to counsel people in need in a homeless shelter, where people actually have a place to sleep! They say NO! THATS SOCIALISM!

Americans need to get with Humanitarianism!
Theres more money in that as far as a stable nation goes.

If you balanced out the cost of homes, health care and schooling, you could afford to pay more people (employ more professionals). Americans are just greedy or ignorant.

In there lattest attempt to be AMERICAN they allmost destroyed the Western Worlds economy and made us more vulnerable to terror!

Posted by: vicbennettnet | October 28, 2008 2:42 PM | Report abuse

Trickle down economics doesn't work. In order to stimulate the economy you have to get its engine started. The middle class is the dynamo that runs the country. Our purchasing power is first and last. Fuel the middle class and we prosper. Give the wealthy 5 percent tax cuts and you have the results of the last 8 years, catastrophe.

Time for a change.
Time for the rich to serve their country the only way they can. They've had it good for too long.

Posted by: seemstome | October 28, 2008 2:41 PM | Report abuse

There needs be a conservative party that is separate from The Republican Party and separates itself from the RHINOS. Bush, not really a conservative especially fiscally, will be the last Republican president. This situation will result part from his own doing but also because BO and cronies will push to remove term limits if and when he starts a second term.

Posted by: leapin | October 28, 2008 2:41 PM | Report abuse

Once upon a time there were giants in the GOP:
"In poor health, drained from working fourteen, fifteen, and sixteen-hour days, Senator Everett Dirksen of Illinois spoke quietly. Twice he gulped pills handed him by a Senate page. In his massive left hand, he held a 12-page speech he had typed the night before on Senate stationery .
"I have had but one purpose," Dirksen intoned, "and that was the enactment of a good, workable, equitable, practical bill having due regard for the progress made in the civil rights field at the state and local level."
He warned his colleagues that "we dare not temporize with the issue which is before us. It is essentially moral in character. It must be resolved. It will not go away. It's time has come." He quoted Victor Hugo, the historian and French philosopher who, on the night he died, entered these words in his diary: "stronger than all the armies is an idea whose time has come."
Dirksen declared, "The time has come for equality of opportunity in sharing of government, in education, and in employment. It must not be stayed or denied. It is here!" His last words were these: "I appeal to all Senators. We are confronted with a moral issue. Today let us not be found wanting in whatever it takes by way of moral and spiritual substance to face up to the issue and to vote cloture."
Never in history had the Senate been able to muster enough votes to cut off a filibuster on a civil rights bill. And only once in the thirty-seven years since 1927 had it agreed to cloture for any measure. This filibuster had gone on for 534 hours. The clerk proceeded to call the roll at 11:00 a.m. At 11:15 a.m., Republican Senator John Williams of Delaware replied "aye" to the question. It was the 67th vote; cloture had passed by a vote of 71 to 29. The final count showed 44 Democrats and 27 Republicans voting for cloture with 23 Democrats - 20 from the South -- and only 6 Republicans opposed.”
Everett Dirksen had single handedly delivered the Republican votes necessary to pass Lyndon Johnson's civil rights bill.
...and so the Civil Rights Act came to the floor for a vote and passed.
....truly Country before Party.
Where are those GOP giants today?? The dearth of such men is what is wrong with modern Republicanism.
“A billion here, a billion there, and soon you're talking about real money."

Posted by: toritto | October 28, 2008 2:38 PM | Report abuse

Cue IQ is 37 and Blows and Zing of Kooks on schedule...the Straight Talk Express Short Bus is looking for you for your daily meds and red Kool-aid!

Simple fact is, the GOP needs to make their last stand for the Senate in GA, KY, MN, MS, and TX, where they are weakest. DP is going to pick up NM, CO, VA, NH, OR, AK, NC. They lose their Senate 40, then they are forced to rely on Willie Tanner Lieberman to save their party. If they drop to 39, then even ALF can't save them.

McCain is so done that even The Homecoming Queen's Got A Gun knows it and is shedding his campaign. GOP may try to do a Custer with McCain, but it isn't going to work.

Of course, since I think all statists suck, I wish they'd all lose so we can get our freedoms and rights back...

Posted by: Tannim123 | October 28, 2008 2:33 PM | Report abuse

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What no headline on this story WashPOST
of course not...okay, then I guess it's ok for me to hang Obama by a noose in my PG county neighborhood as part of my "halloween" decorations.
Posted by: blevins20061 | October 28, 2008 2:14 PM | Report abuse
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That has already been going on for several weeks. The difference is they wrote Obama right on the effigy.

Posted by: popasmoke | October 28, 2008 2:33 PM | Report abuse

It will be funny to see, if McCain pulls out a win, how many of these Republican roaches try to scramble back under their rocks.

Posted by: AsperGirl | October 28, 2008 2:29 PM | Report abuse

seemstome -

That's almost as good as the poem BO wrote in college.

Under water grottos, caverns

Filled with apes

That eat figs.

Stepping on the figs

That the apes

Eat, they crunch.

The apes howl, bare

Their fangs, dance,

Tumble in the

Rushing water,

Musty, wet pelts

Glistening in the blue.

Posted by: leapin | October 28, 2008 2:28 PM | Report abuse

Given their astonishing record over the past eight years, it doesn't matter what the Republicans do during the seven days remaining before their appointment with their employers.

Posted by: officermancuso | October 28, 2008 2:28 PM | Report abuse

The next few days are going to be very difficult for the Republican party, and maybe the Democrats, too. This is a volatile year when it comes to people's insecurities and fears.

Of course the Republicans can't throw McCain over the side. The Indians abandoning their Chief, who is polling ahead of his tribe to begin with, is more repugnant than the alternative.

The Republicans asked for this when they failed to unite behind their nominee, withheld support and griped every time he moved too far to the center to please the right wing even though they should have known it's necessary for the nominee move to the center in the general election. They also didn't make the rounds on panels to defend and promote the Republican ticket. They also didn't write a lot of op eds and jump on the commentary job. The spoiled, diffident and self-focused right wing of the Republican party put the screws to McCain trying to make him constantly pay lip service to their litmus tests (even during the general election) and even then they didn't give their ticket enthusiastic and adequate support.

Now they want to throw in the towel and scramble to run under their rocks.

It is this lack of guts and diffidence on the part of Republicans that has been a bigger drag on its nominee than anything the media or Democrats have done to him.

They're happy to ride the ticket's coattails if he's up in the polls, but left them to fend off all the tirades and attacks that poured out against the Republican ticket after it surged into the lead in September, and they let Democrats and the mainstream media bash their ticket day in and day out until Obama was up again.

What a spoiled, lazy bunch of cynics. They couldn't even stick up for Palin when she was subjected to a barrage of sexism. The Republican congressment deserve to lose. McCain was a better candidate than they deserved and they're getting only what they set themselves up for if they all get tossed out on their lazy butts.

Posted by: AsperGirl | October 28, 2008 2:28 PM | Report abuse

McCain Is A Socialist!


Down in the polls, John McCain's new Divide & Flail™ strategy is to call Barack Obama's tax cut for 95% of Americans "socialism."


Well, McCain must have once been a socialist, because it turns out that for years he supported higher taxes on the wealthy to pay for lower taxes on the middle-class.


The YouTube don't lie:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8EyGpOU3qM
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OMG! Oh No, Palin Is A Socialist Too!


It's not just McCain -- Sarah Palin is a socialist too! Hendrik Hertzberg notes (emphasis added):


"A few weeks before Palin was nominated for Vice-President, she told a visiting journalist—Philip Gourevitch, of this magazine—that "we’re set up, unlike other states in the union, where it’s collectively Alaskans own the resources. So we share in the wealth when the development of these resources occurs."


Here's the mavericky straight-talk, my friends:
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http://www.newyorker.com/talk/comment/2008/11/03/081103taco_talk_hertzberg
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Posted by: DrainYou | October 28, 2008 2:28 PM | Report abuse

I think it's a bit too late at this point. What was a drifting current just two weeks is now a rip tide. In Dole's case, the GOP had some six weeks to work some magic...a lot more than the 6 days of campaigning left before this election.

They should conserve their funds--why through good money after bad; regroup after the election and burst out of the gate in 2010.

Posted by: jandcgall1 | October 28, 2008 2:27 PM | Report abuse

Here's some salve for your sore eyes, cannula. Save that for November 5th...
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Poll numbers don't look good for John McCain these days. But the internal dynamics are even worse.

A Pew Research poll released on Tuesday reveals that the Arizona Republican is not only trailing substantially (19 percent) among early voters, but faces political obstacles that seem downright insurmountable. Despite devoting countless airtime and speeches towards distancing himself from George W. Bush, more people today believe McCain would be an extension of the current administration's policies than they did just one week ago. As Pew reports:

"As disapproval of President Bush's job performance has edged upward, fewer voters say that McCain would take the country in a different direction from Bush's. Currently, more voters say McCain would continue Bush's policies than say he would take the country in a different direction (47% to 40%). Just a week ago (Oct. 16-19), voters were divided over whether McCain would continue Bush's policies or not (44% continue, 45% take new direction."
Making matters worse for the Republican ticket, the same-as-Bush perception is getting stronger among the Independent voters that McCain needs to court.

"Independent voters have become substantially more likely to say McCain would continue Bush's policies (37 percent in mid-October, 48% now) than to say he would take the country in a new direction (50% in mid-October, 38% now)."

Posted by: LABC | October 28, 2008 2:24 PM | Report abuse

Mccain has Joe the plumber on the stump today. He just said that a vote for Obama is death to Israel. Has Mccain ever listened to this nut case? He wants social security and Medicare to be ended, he doesn't like police or anyone for that matter telling him what to do. Truth is, he has said he probably would not vote for Mccain or Obama. Does Mccain ever vett anyone he connects himself to? Reporters are for sure going to get their hands on Joe today and get him to spout some of his insane stuff Mccain will have to use a news cycle pushing back on.

Mccains campaign gets worse and worse. I kid running for class president could run a better campaign. Mccain canceled a stop today because it was raining, heck no one showed up anyway. Obama just did one in the rain and it was packed. Obama will be campaigning with Bill Clinton tomorrow, John Mccain has "Joe the plumber". In a final week when he is losing all over the map this is John Mccains Crechendo? A campaign that has been laughable from the start, now John Mccain ends on a complete joke, Sarah Palin and "Joe the plumber".

Posted by: popasmoke | October 28, 2008 2:24 PM | Report abuse

There you go again: Obama is going to do away with the Bush tax cuts that favor the richest 5 percent of tax payers and return to the progressive Clinton tax structure.
You know, back when we had budget surpluses.
The same budget surpluses that Bush squandered.

If anyone is among that elite 5 percent group and is posting or reading here, then my name is Paul Krugman.

Posted by: seemstome | October 28, 2008 2:20 PM | Report abuse

uniquely underqualified

simple simon

unique means one of a kind. you forgot THE ONE?

Posted by: king_of_zouk
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If this is your love poem to 37th and O'Doof street, maybe you should sign up on his "award winning" blog and canoodle there...

Posted by: LABC | October 28, 2008 2:18 PM | Report abuse

zouk, I think I missed your post on the subject at hand. What do you think - should the Repubs cut bait & set mcCain-Palin free? Is there enough time and money left to forget the top race & focus solely on key House & Senate races? Or is it more important to back the Presidential ticket & go for retaining the White House?

Posted by: bsimon1 | October 28, 2008 2:18 PM | Report abuse

Tradition! tradition....tradition

National Gallup (Traditional)* Obama 49, McCain 47 Obama +2

Those numbers are a sight for sore eyes-

Americans want jobs and a good economy, in the tradition of the best that America has been-

America does not want socialism....from each according to his ability... because we value hard work and the chance of getting ahead by studying (like Obama did), working with our hands, writing the next hit, or the "Great American Novel", or simply working our way up day by day as a teacher, policeman, architect, etc taking joy in the help we've brought to others and the security we've brought to our families.
THAT's American tradition- not the Redistributive Society Obama could bring in 2 months. What does America want? A check or a job?
Gallup's showing us that more and more want jobs!

OBAMA’S MIDDLE CLASS TAX CUT - $1200

McCAIN’S MIDDLE CLASS TAX CUT - $300 + LOWER CORPORATE TAXES FOR BUSINESES CREATING MIDDLE CLASS JOBS

LET’S SEE- $1200 CHECK VS $300 CHECK+JOB

That's NO dilemma!

Posted by: thecannula | October 28, 2008 2:16 PM | Report abuse

Who IS the real John McCain?

During the 2000 campaign, on MSNBC’s “Hardball,” a young woman asked McCain why her father, a doctor, should be “penalized” by being “in a huge tax bracket.” McCain replied that “wealthy people can afford more” and that “the very wealthy, because they can afford tax lawyers and all kinds of loopholes, really don’t pay nearly as much as you think they do.” The exchange continued:

YOUNG WOMAN: Are we getting closer and closer to, like, socialism and stuff?. . .

MCCAIN: Here’s what I really believe: That when you reach a certain level of comfort, there’s nothing wrong with paying somewhat more.

What is it that you really believe, John?



Posted by: Omyobama | October 28, 2008 2:15 PM | Report abuse

So the GOP, the party that thought one-party control of the entire government was a wonderful idea (back when they dreamed of that "permanent Republican majority"), now think it's a terrible idea (because the Democrats might actually pull it off.)

You gotta hand it the wingers. If those fools didn't have double standards, they wouldn't have any standards at all.

Posted by: WaitingForGodot | October 28, 2008 2:14 PM | Report abuse

West Hollywood Halloween display showing a likeness of Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin hanging by a noose has caused a furor among some residents who reported it as a hate crime, authorities said Monday.

But Los Angeles County sheriff's officials said the mannequin sporting a beehive hairdo, glasses and a red coat does not rise to the level of a hate crime because it was part of a Halloween display.

LATIMES.com
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What no headline on this story WashPOST
of course not...okay, then I guess it's ok for me to hang Obama by a noose in my PG county neighborhood as part of my "halloween" decorations.

Posted by: blevins20061 | October 28, 2008 2:14 PM | Report abuse

I look forward to the three weeks of quiet and relative sanity.


Posted by: malis

thanks for the biography, but like Obama, I think I will have Ayers ghost write it instead. i am going to need the money to send to THE ONE and his ACORN buddies.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | October 28, 2008 2:13 PM | Report abuse

We live in the Missouri Congressional 6th District. The Fix predicted that we will continue with our Republican congressman - but us rednecks can vote for Obama an balance the scales...................


http://thefiresidepost.com/2008/10/26/missourians-for-obama/

Posted by: glclark4750 | October 28, 2008 2:10 PM | Report abuse

"unique means one of a kind. you forgot THE ONE?"

Reasonable people can agree that Sen Obama and Sarah Palin are distinct from one another. Whether my initial qualifier includes you is open to debate - though I admit I have some well-formed notions on the subject.

Posted by: bsimon1 | October 28, 2008 2:08 PM | Report abuse


CUTTING BAIT?
The only thing that will save the Republicans now is this:

A REPUBLICAN HALLOWEEN TRADITION
THE OCTOBER SURPRISE

Race innuendos, terrorist stew
More Reverend Wright evil brew
No money left, do the sums
But something wicked this way comes

Palin opens her crooked mouth
To fan the hatred in the south
‘Kill him’ blurts from drunken gums
When something wicked this way comes

October surprise will tell the tale
Will Evil win or will it fail?
Karl Rove schemes with his vile chums
And something wicked this way comes

McCain has shown that he doesn't want to
spread the wealth, he wants to spread the poverty.

Corporations First, Country Last.


Posted by: seemstome | October 28, 2008 2:04 PM | Report abuse

uniquely underqualified

simple simon

unique means one of a kind. you forgot THE ONE?

Posted by: king_of_zouk | October 28, 2008 2:01 PM | Report abuse

Barely noticed in the furor over Barack Obama's remarks dealing with re-distribution was the Illinois Democrat's assault on the Founding Fathers and the Constitution they created.


Said Obama: "To that extent, as radical as I think people try to characterize the Warren Court, it wasn’t that radical."


What followed that remark was a screed that should frighten the daylights out of any American who understands that the Constitution is the sole and most important safeguard of our rights and our liberties. Without it we are subjects, not citizens.


According to Obama if the Constitution "didn’t break free from the essential constraints that were placed by the founding fathers in the Constitution, at least as its been interpreted and [the] Warren Court interpreted in the same way, that generally the Constitution is a charter of negative liberties."


The document, he argued, "Says what the states can’t do to you, says what the Federal government can’t do to you, but doesn’t say what the Federal government or State government must do on your behalf."


That remark shows a shocking ignorance of the purpose of the United States Constitution. Writing in National Review, Bill Whittle explained, "The entire purpose of the Constitution was to limit government."


And that's the last thing Barack Obama, a devout worshiper at the shrine of Big Brother government, wants to do. It would stop him from taking your money and giving it to someone else.


Obama's remarks would have sent shivers up the spine of Thomas Jefferson, et al. And they should do the same to all thinking Americans who know that without the Constitution as framed by the Founding Fathers to protect our rights and liberties, we would be at the mercy of a powerful and unrestrained Federal Government ruled by power-hungry men like Barack Obama, and not by law

Posted by: blevins20061 | October 28, 2008 1:59 PM | Report abuse

Nice to see ol' King o’Zouk (or as I fondly think of him, Kouk) still hanging around. Through the years he’s always’ demonstrated two consistent characteristics: 1) supreme self-confidence and 2) an unrivaled record of never once accurately predicting an electoral contest.

Kouk’s inimitable style always includes finding only that obscure poll number supporting him that day. In 2006, as Karl Rove’s swaggering stenographer, he kept repeating (up to and including election day) the prediction that the polls were wrong and the Rs would pick up a couple Senate seats and lose only a few in the House. He often said that if he was wrong he’d eat crow and apologize to everyone. I do give him credit that he was back online the next day apologizing, behaving courteously. It was a good three weeks until the ‘ol Kouk was back, now with a new mission (insulting Hillary Clinton).

His streak continues…in the last year he was known for insulting McCain and Clinton, and confidently stating there was no doubt Giuliani would be the next President. Then as Obama gained the D lead, he suddenly switched to a Hillary supporter and directed his insults to Obama. He hasn’t mentioned Giuliani since his Florida humiliation…for the last few months he’s switched full time to anti-Obama talking points parroted from fringe websites, anonymous emails, and talk radio (wouldn’t it save time if he just numbered them? Then Kouk could just write “Obambi/NObama, TP#2!...#7!....double #13!!” without forcing us all to wade through his repetitive dreck).

There’s little that gives me more assurance than the ‘ol Kouk confidence of an Obama loss. So Kouk, are you going to make the same promise you made in October 2006? I look forward to the three weeks of quiet and relative sanity.

Posted by: malis | October 28, 2008 1:57 PM | Report abuse

37 spittles:

OBAMA CLAIMED THE CONSTITUTION HAD A STAIN ON IT. I AM SICK OF OBAMA.

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It does. All human documents do. We are imperfect.

We continue to learn, grow, advance.

Or in your case, ignore, atrophy, move backwards.

Posted by: wpost4112 | October 28, 2008 1:57 PM | Report abuse

Republicans can rise from the ashes (assuming they lose of course - it ani't over till its over!) by taking back their fiscally conservative, socially moderate positions.

Its simple really - "We will be carefull how we spend your money, we will defend you and we won't tell you how to live your life. Everyone of you is welcome here"

Reduce the influence of "values" and neo-fascist candidates and present a center-right coalition to the American people. They will respond.

:-)

Posted by: toritto | October 28, 2008 1:55 PM | Report abuse

Umm, it's too late. At best they could save a senate seat, which may be all they need to do, but it is still probably too late. This was a strategy for last week or two weeks ago.

Posted by: caribis | October 28, 2008 1:51 PM | Report abuse

It is clear that the Obama does not respect the US Constitution and its Freedoms as most Americans do.


Obama has a hostility toward those freedoms which he lumps in with a document which allowed the slave trade to continue, allowed the Dred Scott decision and allowed the Jim Crow era to be affirmed by the Supreme Court.

One has to view Obama and listen to what he has said. There were many references in his Philadelphia speech on race - OBAMA CLAIMED THE CONSTITUTION HAD A STAIN ON IT. I AM SICK OF OBAMA.

Obama's campaign has carried on a campaign of harassment against bloggers whose views Obama does not agree with.


Let me put it clearly: Obama's campaign has spent THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS PERHAPS MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO HARASS PEOPLE WHO ARE EXERCISING FREEDOM OF SPEECH.

THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN IS SICK.

Obama does not support Constitutional Freedoms the way you and I do. Obama sees these Freedoms through a darkened prism of slavery and the Jim Crow Era.

Vote for him at your own peril.


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Posted by: 37thandOSt | October 28, 2008 1:49 PM | Report abuse

"We don't need to disband the republican party, we need to return it to its roots. And that means that we can't have elites running the show. It has to be our Christian leaders."

Of course, its the intellectual elites that built the GOP into a party that started to win a majority of voters. The 'elites' figured out they could fool the social conservatives into doing the hard work of manning phone banks & running GOTV operations, then the 'elites' could govern as they see fit - leavin the social cons by the wayside. See Bush (43), for instance. This year we have Sen McCain pivoting to the right to first win the nomination, then selecting a uniquely underqualified running mate in Sarah Palin to excite the social con base. It looks like this desperate ploy isn't going to work; but if it had, the social cons likely would have been 'forgotten' again - when the new President McCain resumed his rational old self that viewed the Dobson crowd as the agents of intolerance they are. 'CountryFirst' y'all got played, again.

Posted by: bsimon1 | October 28, 2008 1:48 PM | Report abuse

We are paying the Sunnis bribes to keep Al Qaeda at bay and to not kill Americans.
That is the reality of the "surge" McCain is so proud of. When the money stops the "surge" flops.

Like oil and water, the Sunnis and Shi'ites
will then separate into the areas they occupy in Iraq as the Kurds already have done.

As long as we are present in sufficient force in Iraq and keep paying tribute, the "surge" will succeed. How long can we afford the cost? A hundred years?

Posted by: seemstome | October 28, 2008 1:48 PM | Report abuse

will put food on my table or help me keep my job . . . .

Posted by: simpleton1


and there we have it. the Libs expect the government to feed them and employ them. sometimes out of the mouth of simpletons, we end up with the truth.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | October 28, 2008 1:48 PM | Report abuse

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It is clear that the Obama does not respect the US Constitution and its Freedoms as most Americans do.


Obama has a hostility toward those freedoms which he lumps in with a document which allowed the slave trade to continue, allowed the Dred Scott decision and allowed the Jim Crow era to be affirmed by the Supreme Court.

One has to view Obama and listen to what he has said. There were many references in his Philadelphia speech on race - OBAMA CLAIMED THE CONSTITUTION HAD A STAIN ON IT. I AM SICK OF OBAMA.

Obama's campaign has carried on a campaign of harassment against bloggers whose views Obama does not agree with.


Let me put it clearly: Obama's campaign has spent THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS PERHAPS MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO HARASS PEOPLE WHO ARE EXERCISING FREEDOM OF SPEECH.

THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN IS SICK.

Obama does not support Constitutional Freedoms the way you and I do. Obama sees these Freedoms through a darkened prism of slavery and the Jim Crow Era.

Vote for him at your own peril.


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Posted by: 37thandOSt | October 28, 2008 1:47 PM | Report abuse

seemstome wrote - (forget Zogby, he's in the tank for republicans)

Zogby is actually a Dem. He predicted that Kerry would win in 04, and I think that he is being cautious this time.

I agree with his sentiment - I predict that Obama will win, but not by the overwhelming landslide that people are predicting. Obama will flip CO,NM,IA, and probably VA, which will be more than enough. But OH and FL should be very close; I predict a split with McC taking FL and BHO taking OH. I still don't see BHO winning IN,NC,MT,SD,AZ. Though they will be the closest in many cycles.

Posted by: Jimibristol | October 28, 2008 1:44 PM | Report abuse

Maverick Personality Disorder:

http://tinyurl.com/5ggtte

Posted by: janawalter87 | October 28, 2008 1:44 PM | Report abuse

The keep-government-divided theory sounds nice in principle, but it breaks down here because the Republicans have shown that they're incompetent. It doesn't logically follow that Republican candidates are qualified for the jobs they say we shouldn't give to Democrats. Personally, I'd rather have Democrats run everything in Washington than leave any of this to the knuckleheads of the GOP. Neither banning gay marriage, nor exhuming Terri Schiavo's dead body, or any of the other important stuff Republicans want to do will put food on my table or help me keep my job . . . .

Posted by: simpleton1 | October 28, 2008 1:42 PM | Report abuse

"Hint - it smells like napalm."

Perhaps, though, the most amusing aspect of the above 'advice' about winning a war is that napalm is used as a defoliant in tropical war zones. What the anticipated use of such an ordinance is in a desert is unclear.

Posted by: bsimon1 | October 28, 2008 1:41 PM | Report abuse

Maverick Personality Disorder:

http://tinyurl.com/5ggtte

Posted by: janawalter87 | October 28, 2008 1:40 PM | Report abuse

I can't believe, or even really understand, most of these comments. Can any of you make a statement rationally, without extreme partisanship, or follow the format of the discussion? Do you all live in your individual fantasylands?

Speaking of fantasylands, the idea that the United States is a "center-right" culture appears to me a concept invented by people like David Frum for their own consolation.

The political slant of the United States depends upon where one is. In south Georgia, where I was raised and where I still spend the winters, the culture borders on reactionary.

In western Pennsylvania, where I spend my summers, the culture does indeed resemble the "center-right" idea of Frum and others of his ilk.

But in New England, where I spend a great deal of my time; in Manhattan; and in the Northwest, there is much more of a leftist state of mind. You know this, Chris.

Even the individual states cannot be described in one political state of mind. Anyone who travels knows this. Politics vary in the distance of just a few miles.

"Center-right"? As a nation, I see mainstream thought, at least for the moment, shifting to "center-left", if a label must be applied.

As far as cutting bait, I think it's a little late in this election cycle for the Republicans to start thinking about their losses in the House and Senate now. Besides, they really seem to be far too much in disarray at the moment to do anything effectively. The presidential campaign simply reflects this. And I am far from the first to say it.

Posted by: sweetwtrbay | October 28, 2008 1:40 PM | Report abuse

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A year ago I would have agreed with you that we are a center-right country.


However how do you account for the apparently millions who support the ultra-left high-tax socialist Black-Liberation-Thelogy Obama ???


Some of these people are post-midlife crisis protester-wannabees who yearn for the 60s to come back. Yea, they get out of their white mercedes and they want to go to a flower child rally.

These people believe the Weather Underground is "cool." Did it ever disband? Obama could be a secret member for all we know.

The members of the Weather Underground have been attempting to infiltrate the Democratic National Committee for decades - they were at the Democratic National Committee during Bill Clinton's transition period in 1992 - 1993. The Washington Post really should track these people and see what they have been up to - one thing they have been doing is mentoring Obama.

I find this entire development quite concerning - IF ONE ACTUALLY READS WILLIAM AYERS' WRITINGS FROM THE 60s - Ayers says he wants to create an alliance with the forces of Black Liberation Theology and destroy America from that direction.

Even MSNBC is now slamming the New York Times on media bias - that is hilarious however the problem has been so severe they cannot deceive anymore. At least admitting media bias on a morning show is a first step.

Let's see the media actually do their investigative reporting and do ONE PIECE on the philosophy of the Church of Black Liberation Theology.


IT WAS ACTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO GET THE MEDIA TO REPORT ON THE DETAILS OF BLACK LIBERATION THEOLOGY UNTIL REV. WRIGHT TRAVELED ALL THE WAY TO THE NATIONAL PRESS CLUB IN WASHINGTON DC AND SAID ABOUT 15 OUTRAGEOUS RACIST THINGS ON THE UNFILTERED C-SPAN.


Black Liberation Theology adherents see everything through "white values" and "black values" - and they are still seeking compensation for slavery and the Jim Crow era. The media is invited to research the thinking of Dorothy Tilman, Alderman in Chicago.


Please remember the adherents of Black Liberation Theology are TEACHING THEIR CHILDREN THIS NONSENSE.


Please then remember that Obama and his wife brought their children to this Church for years (until it was politically impossible for Obama to continue to bring his children to this hate-filled place) and that Obama gave the Church of Black Liberation Theology $20,000.00 in one year.


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Posted by: 37thandOSt | October 28, 2008 1:40 PM | Report abuse

We don't need to disband the republican party, we need to return it to its roots. And that means that we can't have elites running the show. It has to be our Christian leaders.

It was John McCain and his band of party insiders that ruined this campaign by not sticking to our core values. It's not surprising that they went out and bought Sarah $150,000 worth of clothing. That's normal for these people.

These elitists and Washington insiders have to go. I believe that God will not aid us in the fight against socialism until we do. This country could very easily end up like Venazeula if we don't. Compare Obama to Chavaz and you'll see they are very close on the issues. And that's why Chavaz is bankrolling ACORN and the Democratic Party.

Posted by: CountryFirst | October 28, 2008 1:39 PM | Report abuse

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A year ago I would have agreed with you that we are a center-right country.


However how do you account for the apparently millions who support the ultra-left high-tax socialist Black-Liberation-Thelogy Obama ???


Some of these people are post-midlife crisis protester-wannabees who yearn for the 60s to come back. Yea, they get out of their white mercedes and they want to go to a flower child rally.

These people believe the Weather Underground is "cool." Did it ever disband? Obama could be a secret member for all we know.

The members of the Weather Underground have been attempting to infiltrate the Democratic National Committee for decades - they were at the Democratic National Committee during Bill Clinton's transition period in 1992 - 1993. The Washington Post really should track these people and see what they have been up to - one thing they have been doing is mentoring Obama.

I find this entire development quite concerning - IF ONE ACTUALLY READS WILLIAM AYERS' WRITINGS FROM THE 60s - Ayers says he wants to create an alliance with the forces of Black Liberation Theology and destroy America from that direction.

Even MSNBC is now slamming the New York Times on media bias - that is hilarious however the problem has been so severe they cannot deceive anymore. At least admitting media bias on a morning show is a first step.

Let's see the media actually do their investigative reporting and do ONE PIECE on the philosophy of the Church of Black Liberation Theology.


IT WAS ACTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO GET THE MEDIA TO REPORT ON THE DETAILS OF BLACK LIBERATION THEOLOGY UNTIL REV. WRIGHT TRAVELED ALL THE WAY TO THE NATIONAL PRESS CLUB IN WASHINGTON DC AND SAID ABOUT 15 OUTRAGEOUS RACIST THINGS ON THE UNFILTERED C-SPAN.


Black Liberation Theology adherents see everything through "white values" and "black values" - and they are still seeking compensation for slavery and the Jim Crow era. The media is invited to research the thinking of Dorothy Tilman, Alderman in Chicago.


Please remember the adherents of Black Liberation Theology are TEACHING THEIR CHILDREN THIS NONSENSE.


Please then remember that Obama and his wife brought their children to this Church for years (until it was politically impossible for Obama to continue to bring his children to this hate-filled place) and that Obama gave the Church of Black Liberation Theology $20,000.00 in one year.


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Posted by: 37thandOSt | October 28, 2008 1:39 PM | Report abuse

Insiders in the Mcain campaign are calling Palin a "Whack job"

Yep, we sure want her for VP.

Posted by: popasmoke | October 28, 2008 1:39 PM | Report abuse

I can't believe, or even really understand, most of these comments. Can any of you make a statement rationally, without extreme partisanship, or follow the format of the discussion? Do you all live in your individual fantasylands?

Speaking of fantasylands, the idea that the United States is a "center-right" culture appears to me a concept invented by people like David Frum for their own consolation.

The political slant of the United States depends upon where one is. In south Georgia, where I was raised and where I still spend the winters, the culture borders on reactionary.

In western Pennsylvania, where I spend my summers, the culture does indeed resemble the "center-right" idea of Frum and others of his ilk.

But in New England, where I spend a great deal of my time; in Manhattan; and in the Northwest, there is much more of a leftist state of mind. You know this, Chris.

Even the individual states cannot be described in one political state of mind. Anyone who travels knows this. Politics vary in the distance of just a few miles.

"Center-right"? As a nation, I see mainstream thought, at least for the moment, shifting to "center-left", if a label must be applied.

As far as cutting bait, I think it's a little late in this election cycle for the Republicans to start thinking about their losses in the House and Senate now. Besides, they really seem to be far too much in disarray at the moment to do anything effectively. The presidential campaign simply reflects this. And I am far from the first to say it.

Posted by: sweetwtrbay | October 28, 2008 1:37 PM | Report abuse

"you may have to look up that V word in the dictionary. your candidates don't seem to recognize it.

Hint - it smells like napalm."


MMmmmm.... I love the smell of Napalm on Wednesday mornings. Check back with the Libs next week on the 'V' word.

Posted by: bsimon1 | October 28, 2008 1:34 PM | Report abuse

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A year ago I would have agreed with you that we are a center-right country.


However how do you account for the apparently millions who support the ultra-left high-tax socialist Black-Liberation-Thelogy Obama ???


Some of these people are post-midlife crisis protester-wannabees who yearn for the 60s to come back. Yea, they get out of their white mercedes and they want to go to a flower child rally.

These people believe the Weather Underground is "cool." Did it ever disband? Obama could be a secret member for all we know.

The members of the Weather Underground have been attempting to infiltrate the Democratic National Committee for decades - they were at the Democratic National Committee during Bill Clinton's transition period in 1992 - 1993. The Washington Post really should track these people and see what they have been up to - one thing they have been doing is mentoring Obama.

I find this entire development quite concerning - IF ONE ACTUALLY READS WILLIAM AYERS' WRITINGS FROM THE 60s - Ayers says he wants to create an alliance with the forces of Black Liberation Theology and destroy America from that direction.

Even MSNBC is now slamming the New York Times on media bias - that is hilarious however the problem has been so severe they cannot deceive anymore. At least admitting media bias on a morning show is a first step.

Let's see the media actually do their investigative reporting and do ONE PIECE on the philosophy of the Church of Black Liberation Theology.


IT WAS ACTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO GET THE MEDIA TO REPORT ON THE DETAILS OF BLACK LIBERATION THEOLOGY UNTIL REV. WRIGHT TRAVELED ALL THE WAY TO THE NATIONAL PRESS CLUB IN WASHINGTON DC AND SAID ABOUT 15 OUTRAGEOUS RACIST THINGS ON THE UNFILTERED C-SPAN.


Black Liberation Theology adherents see everything through "white values" and "black values" - and they are still seeking compensation for slavery and the Jim Crow era. The media is invited to research the thinking of Dorothy Tilman, Alderman in Chicago.


Please remember the adherents of Black Liberation Theology are TEACHING THEIR CHILDREN THIS NONSENSE.


Please then remember that Obama and his wife brought their children to this Church for years (until it was politically impossible for Obama to continue to bring his children to this hate-filled place) and that Obama gave the Church of Black Liberation Theology $20,000.00 in one year.


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Posted by: 37thandOSt | October 28, 2008 1:33 PM | Report abuse

Barely noticed in the furor over Barack Obama's remarks dealing with re-distribution was the Illinois Democrat's assault on the Founding Fathers and the Constitution they created.


Said Obama: "To that extent, as radical as I think people try to characterize the Warren Court, it wasn’t that radical."


What followed that remark was a screed that should frighten the daylights out of any American who understands that the Constitution is the sole and most important safeguard of our rights and our liberties. Without it we are subjects, not citizens.


According to Obama if the Constitution "didn’t break free from the essential constraints that were placed by the founding fathers in the Constitution, at least as its been interpreted and [the] Warren Court interpreted in the same way, that generally the Constitution is a charter of negative liberties."


The document, he argued, "Says what the states can’t do to you, says what the Federal government can’t do to you, but doesn’t say what the Federal government or State government must do on your behalf."


That remark shows a shocking ignorance of the purpose of the United States Constitution. Writing in National Review, Bill Whittle explained, "The entire purpose of the Constitution was to limit government."


And that's the last thing Barack Obama, a devout worshiper at the shrine of Big Brother government, wants to do. It would stop him from taking your money and giving it to someone else.


Obama's remarks would have sent shivers up the spine of Thomas Jefferson, et al. And they should do the same to all thinking Americans who know that without the Constitution as framed by the Founding Fathers to protect our rights and liberties, we would be at the mercy of a powerful and unrestrained Federal Government ruled by power-hungry men like Barack Obama, and not by law

Posted by: blevins20061 | October 28, 2008 1:33 PM | Report abuse

Pharisee scribes:

God wants us to be rich and prosper, and he certainly doesn't want us paying taxes to a socialist government. But if we can only talk about taxes, we are not going to mobilize the Christians who are just sick about Barack Obama taking over.

This is where Sarah Palin comes in. SHe understands what the average voter wants, and that is not a lot of complicated double-talk about politics as usual. She is a righteous, common-sense reformer who lives her devotion to Jesus in practice. Mark my words, Sarah Palin will be the one who saves this country from the dangerous elements we are not facing!

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America, meet the enemy.

I especially like "Sarah Palin will be the one who saves this country from the dangerous elements we are not facing!"

Indeed, Palin is great against phantom threats. Like evolution.

Fortunately, we have someone with the smarts and nerve to deal with real threats: Barack Obama.

Posted by: wpost4112 | October 28, 2008 1:32 PM | Report abuse

"Mike Huckabee was taken out at the knees after he won Iowa because he did not fit with what Wall Street was looking for."

I thought wall street was looking for Mitt Romney, or maybe, like zouk, Rudy Giuliani. Perhaps, in their zeal to wipe out the Huckster, they overlooked Sen McCain. But who are the party insiders that resuscitated his campaign? The whole party had left him for dead.

Posted by: bsimon1 | October 28, 2008 1:29 PM | Report abuse

To the religious right and CountryFirst in particular:

In America, only Freedom is sacred.

There is only one religion in the United States of America and it’s Bible is the Constitution, it’s Ten Commandments are the Bill of Rights, and it’s Lord’s Prayer is the Declaration of Independence.

Worship however you want , just leave America’s religion alone.

Posted by: seemstome | October 28, 2008 1:29 PM | Report abuse

Mark my words, Sarah Palin will be the one who saves this country from the dangerous elements we are not facing!

Posted by: CountryFirst | October 28, 2008 1:18 PM

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Might this fall in the category of an unintentional truth?

Posted by: malis | October 28, 2008 1:29 PM | Report abuse

so it seems that europe will not be welcoming the messiah as predicted. his world view, whereby Iran and Korea are worthy of sit-downs but fox news is not, does not go over too well with the citizens we were protecting.

so essentially, Obama will be repairing the voids that bush created with our enemies and severing all ties with our allies, even potentially invading them if someone dares call him names.

but why change biden's record of being wrong 100% of the time throughout american history. he voted to pull the rug out from under vietnam, why not do it to Iraq now that victory is so close. In case you libs are reading this, you may have to look up that V word in the dictionary. your candidates don't seem to recognize it.

Hint - it smells like napalm.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | October 28, 2008 1:27 PM | Report abuse

The Republican Party, of which I have been registered with for over forty years, may as well disband. The back biting of the Republican Party and the unity of the Democratic Party are the perfect liberal recipe. The Brown Shirt Liberal News Media has taken The Good Old USA with out firing a shot. The propaganda of The Liberal News Media is outstanding. The Hollywood Elite and the liberal collages have brainwashed the youth of this country. A one party Democracy is Socialism at best.

Posted by: focus2 | October 28, 2008 1:27 PM | Report abuse

Mark my words, Sarah Palin will be the one who saves this country from the dangerous elements we are not facing!

Posted by: CountryFirst | October 28, 2008 1:18 PM

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Might this fall in the category of an unintentional truth?

Posted by: malis | October 28, 2008 1:27 PM | Report abuse

"I thought all Lib foreign policy was about appeasing the French??"

It seems that, once again, you 'thought' wrong. How tiring it must be to perpetually suffer that malady.

Posted by: bsimon1 | October 28, 2008 1:25 PM | Report abuse

McCain was against the Bush tax cuts before he was for them. Now all he wants to do is Spread the Poverty.

The one or two percent of the very rich have not been paying their fair share of the taxes. They are now fighting like the greedy hoarders that they are to protect their spoils.

This tax money is needed to pay for programs to repair infrastructure and fund new industry that has been neglected for too long.

Trickle down economics has been proven not to work. The very rich do not spend to stimulate the economy. Spread the wealth to the middle class, they are the economic engine of America.
But we had better hurry.
The American middle class is on the endangered list. If McCain has his way it will be extinct.

Posted by: seemstome | October 28, 2008 1:21 PM | Report abuse

I see the GOP conspiracy nutcases on these boards are spewing out their latest wads of slime against Obama in a desperate attempt to saving their imploding party.

It's over, kiddies. Landslide's a comin'. ;-)

Posted by: Brittman1 | October 28, 2008 1:19 PM | Report abuse

Mike Huckabee was taken out at the knees after he won Iowa because he did not fit with what Wall Street was looking for. Given the bailout that George Bush just engineered, it is pretty clear that there is an element in the Republican party that is more concerned with earthly rewards than God's work. And we are going to have to prioritize what the party stands for and make sure that our message is about values.

God wants us to be rich and prosper, and he certainly doesn't want us paying taxes to a socialist government. But if we can only talk about taxes, we are not going to mobilize the Christians who are just sick about Barack Obama taking over.

This is where Sarah Palin comes in. SHe understands what the average voter wants, and that is not a lot of complicated double-talk about politics as usual. She is a righteous, common-sense reformer who lives her devotion to Jesus in practice. Mark my words, Sarah Palin will be the one who saves this country from the dangerous elements we are not facing!

Posted by: CountryFirst | October 28, 2008 1:18 PM | Report abuse

For people looking at IBD/TIPP poll, they should take a very careful look at how they got that number. That poll has been debunked several times. The main problem with the poll is that it has John McCain winning the 25-35 age group by almost 70%. This does not correspond to any other poll at all. There are a couple of other anomolies in it also. However, if you flip that age group number, Obama is ahead by 7 points which is pretty consistent with the rest of the polls.

Sorry Zouk, but you can see the number breakout on

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/

The polls having Obama up by more than 10 are probably a bit too optimistic.

7% sounds about right.

Posted by: jboykin | October 28, 2008 1:16 PM | Report abuse

I think the GOP should consider pusrging the party down to the truly right wing neo fascists. Out! Ye of little faith!

Once down to the hard core you can truly ignite the base!!

Wouldn't you rather lose with principles than win with compromise?

Yeah - that's the ticket!!

:-)

Posted by: toritto | October 28, 2008 1:15 PM | Report abuse

We are going to lose this election, not because conservatism is dead, but because the party elites picked the candidate. Can you imagine the response to a ticket with Sarah Palin at the top? We would be winning in cakewalk!

But remember, even Jesus spent 40 days in the wilderness before beginning his true work. And in the next 4 years, we will have to regroup and make sure that phony conservatives like John McCain/Colin Powell/Joe Lieberman are not our standard bearers.

God has plan for everything, and Sarah Palin will be back in 2012 to lead this country back onto a righteous path. She and Mike Huckabee are the future of the Republican party. With enough prayer and hard work, we will get our country back from the Obama/Reid/Pelosi socialists.

Keep the faith people!

Posted by: CountryFirst | October 28, 2008 1:00 PM | Report abuse
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Rats are cannibalistic as are Republicans. It will be fun to watch them destroy each other.

Posted by: popasmoke | October 28, 2008 1:15 PM | Report abuse

French President Nicolas Sarkozy is very critical of U.S. presidential candidate Barack Obama's positions on Iran, according to reports that have reached Israel's government. Sarkozy has made his criticisms only in closed forums in France. But according to a senior Israeli government source, the reports reaching Israel indicate that Sarkozy views the Democratic candidate's stance on Iran as "utterly immature" and comprised of "formulations empty of all content."

Imagine that, the French don't approve of the empty shirt. I thought all Lib foreign policy was about appeasing the French??

Posted by: king_of_zouk | October 28, 2008 1:15 PM | Report abuse

Zouk scrawls:

Barbara West's questions to Joe Biden
*Aren't you embarrassed by the blatant attempts to register phony voters by ACORN, an organization that Barack Obama has been tied to in the past?

*In the past Sen. Obama was a community organizer for ACORN. He was an attorney for ACORN and certainly in the Senate he has been a benefactor for ACORN?

*Sen. Obama now famously told Joe the Plumber he wanted to spread his wealth around. A Gallup Poll shows 84 percent of Americans prefer government focus on improving economic conditions and creating more jobs in the U.S. as opposed to taking steps to distribute wealth. Isn't Sen. Obama's comment a potentially crushing political blunder?

*You may recognize this famous quote. From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs. That's from Karl Marx. How is Sen. Obama not being a Marxist if he intends to spread the wealth around?

*You recently said, "Mark my words; it will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama." But what worries many people is your caveat asking them to stand with him, because it's not going to be apparent initially that he's right. Are you forewarning Americans that nothing will be done and that America's days as the world's leading power are over?

*Getting back to the spreading the wealth question, what do you say to the people who are concerned that Barack Obama will want to turn America into a socialist country much like Sweden?

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Hmm. Lessee....

1. ACORN is an independent organization that has no current ties to Obama. In 1995, Obama helped represent ACORN in a successful lawsuit to require the state of Illinois to offer "motor voter" registration at DMV offices.

2. When Obama was on the board of directors of the Woods Fund, the foundation gave grants of $75,000 in 2001 and $70,000 in 2002 to ACORN's Chicago office.

3. Obama's tax plan does exactly that. It creates opportunity for the lower and middle class to rise. Joe The Plumber lied about himself and his income.

4. Creating economic opportunity is not pure Marxism, nor Socialism.

In fact, Ronald Reagan was a big "redistributor."

Gerald Ford enacted the earned income tax credit ("EITC") which was expanded by Ronald Reagan.

The EITC uses tax revenues (derived from our progressive tax system) to provide additional income to people below certain income levels under a formula so that it gradually phases out as incomes increases. Qualifying families receive a monthly check from the government.

Seems to fit Marx's dictum quite nicely.

5. Huh?

6. Sveden? You mean like Reagan was doing? Will it include saunas?

The "Reporter" is married to a Republican strategist.

Biden did extremely well.

Posted by: wpost4112 | October 28, 2008 1:13 PM | Report abuse

CountryFirst writes
"We are going to lose this election, not because conservatism is dead, but because the party elites picked the candidate."

Which party elites picked the candidate?


"Can you imagine the response to a ticket with Sarah Palin at the top? We would be winning in cakewalk!"

Oh. Nevermind. I mistook you for a rational contributor.

Posted by: bsimon1 | October 28, 2008 1:06 PM | Report abuse

We are going to lose this election, not because conservatism is dead, but because the party elites picked the candidate. Can you imagine the response to a ticket with Sarah Palin at the top? We would be winning in cakewalk!

But remember, even Jesus spent 40 days in the wilderness before beginning his true work. And in the next 4 years, we will have to regroup and make sure that phony conservatives like John McCain/Colin Powell/Joe Lieberman are not our standard bearers.

God has plan for everything, and Sarah Palin will be back in 2012 to lead this country back onto a righteous path. She and Mike Huckabee are the future of the Republican party. With enough prayer and hard work, we will get our country back from the Obama/Reid/Pelosi socialists.

Keep the faith people!

Posted by: CountryFirst | October 28, 2008 1:00 PM | Report abuse

alert the truth squad. another person has dared ask the messiah a simple question. As you recall, press conferences were cancelled long ago. from now on, only big billowy, mostly hollow speeches with Greek columns will be permitted.

""Thus, one of these days he might decide to write about Democratic government officials in Ohio going through the state records of Joe the Plumber — Ohio Department of Job and Family Services, the Bureau of Motor Vehicles, in the Toledo Police Department's criminal records, and in the office of the Attorney General. (Once you've donated the maximum allowed to Obama, as the director of the Ohio Department of Job and Family Services did, you lose the benefit of the doubt in my book.)""

Posted by: king_of_zouk | October 28, 2008 12:55 PM | Report abuse

I get a kick out of McCain's criticism of Obama. He wants to "spread the wealth", McCain says, like Obama's tax plan is some kind of economic venereal disease.

McCain would continue Bush's tax cuts for the wealthy and would continue his policy of "spreading the poverty" for the middle class.

Lincoln said; "you can fool some of the people all the time" - He was talking about middle class republicans.

Posted by: seemstome | October 28, 2008 12:55 PM | Report abuse

hey check out this site before you vote http://www.palintruck.com/

Posted by: arngyehou | October 28, 2008 12:52 PM | Report abuse

Questions will have to go unanswered - as usual. the truth squad will deal with you. Set up an IRS audit right away. how dare anyone question the messiah?

Barbara West's questions to Joe Biden
*Aren't you embarrassed by the blatant attempts to register phony voters by ACORN, an organization that Barack Obama has been tied to in the past?

*In the past Sen. Obama was a community organizer for ACORN. He was an attorney for ACORN and certainly in the Senate he has been a benefactor for ACORN?

*Sen. Obama now famously told Joe the Plumber he wanted to spread his wealth around. A Gallup Poll shows 84 percent of Americans prefer government focus on improving economic conditions and creating more jobs in the U.S. as opposed to taking steps to distribute wealth. Isn't Sen. Obama's comment a potentially crushing political blunder?

*You may recognize this famous quote. From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs. That's from Karl Marx. How is Sen. Obama not being a Marxist if he intends to spread the wealth around?

*You recently said, "Mark my words; it will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama." But what worries many people is your caveat asking them to stand with him, because it's not going to be apparent initially that he's right. Are you forewarning Americans that nothing will be done and that America's days as the world's leading power are over?

*Getting back to the spreading the wealth question, what do you say to the people who are concerned that Barack Obama will want to turn America into a socialist country much like Sweden?


since we all know the real answers, it is clear why they don't want those responses on record. the truth hurts.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | October 28, 2008 12:52 PM | Report abuse

Zouk whimpers:

A new 30-second spot on Barack Obama's Web site is urging voters to ''talk to your boss'' or professor and then take the day off from work or school to volunteer for his campaign on Election Day. The ''Take the Day'' campaign suggests voters sign up to go to battleground states or work in phone banks closer to home on Nov. 4, when they would normally be at work or in class.

and why not? the RICH will work that day and simply send you your pay, after THE ONE gets his cut, of course.
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You mean the same rich folk who were playing bridge, golf or computer solitaire (your own fav) while their companies were tanking? Those rich folk?

http://abcnews.go.com/business/story?id=4468469&page=1

Posted by: wpost4112 | October 28, 2008 12:51 PM | Report abuse

American's rarely have this oportunity.

The chance to make "The Man" take a Hike.

The hard pressed US Tax Payer after $150 oil and gas through the roof, economy down the hole, rising prices, the stupid Iraq war, after having their 401Ks and the pensions halved and then halved again. After no trickle down but plenty of corruption trillion dollar welfare for the wealthy and all that is not even half of it; those US taxyers and voters could perhaps be described as being "AS MAD AS HELL"

So you can perhaps see why they will be relishing the chance to tell John McCain and all his commie GOP cronies to "GET A JOB!"

Posted by: walker1 | October 28, 2008 12:50 PM | Report abuse

king_of_zouk polling

669 Likely American Legion voters polled, 10/25-10/27

98% McCain
2% Bob Barr

That's it - McCain has an unsurmountable lead!

Posted by: bondjedi | October 28, 2008 12:44 PM | Report abuse

Americans are fed up with 40 years of do-nothing government. The effect of divided rule in Washington has been paralysis and a marked decline in the economic position of the middle class at home and the dangerous weakening of the nation on the global stage.

It is time that we tried what a determined centrist government led by a smart, compassionate, well-read, and savvy president can do.

Don't let up. Vote Obama/Biden on NOvember 4.

Posted by: dee5 | October 28, 2008 12:44 PM | Report abuse

A new 30-second spot on Barack Obama's Web site is urging voters to ''talk to your boss'' or professor and then take the day off from work or school to volunteer for his campaign on Election Day. The ''Take the Day'' campaign suggests voters sign up to go to battleground states or work in phone banks closer to home on Nov. 4, when they would normally be at work or in class.

and why not? the RICH will work that day and simply send you your pay, after THE ONE gets his cut, of course.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | October 28, 2008 12:44 PM | Report abuse

Rick J says:

I'm not sure what difference it would make at this point. There's only one week left and many people have voted already. I think the Democratic tsunami is unstoppable now...

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Not necessarily. There are lots of undecideds remaining.

Still time for some unforeseen development...or chicanery.

Assume nothing, fight for every vote until the final minute.

Posted by: wpost4112 | October 28, 2008 12:44 PM | Report abuse

After seesawing between 3.2 and 3.9 points over the weekend, Obama's lead slipped to 2.8 Monday. Battleground also has Obama up 3, and other polls have tightened, including Rasmussen, Zogby and Gallup to 5. Some polls show swings in independents, but IBD/TIPP has them in a stable, 5-point range.

It seems my analysis from yesterday is spot on. the undecided are breaking for Mac by 2-1. that means the 3 point advantage will melt away as the remaining 8 percent decide against socialism and big government.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | October 28, 2008 12:22 PM | Report abuse
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There are on undecided, you are just seeing the flux of daly polling. Fact is, Obama has been over 50 for like two weeks and Mccain has yet to crack 44 since the race began. As far as undecided, pollsters don't like to say it but at this point in time they no longer exist. Pollsters know that most of the undecided say they don't know who they will vote for but the reality is they don't care and will not be voting anyway. They just never say to the pollster "I don't vote". They just say, "I an still thinking about it" meaning they could care less. If you look at the poll numbers they are what they are even if it is only a few points. The fact is, There are no more votes for Mcain to get. What ever he is going to get he already has.
To sum it up, "undecided voters" don't exist 6 days from a national election. Real undecided voters have probably been committed weeks ago.

Posted by: popasmoke | October 28, 2008 12:43 PM | Report abuse


WHERE ARE ALL THE 3% POLLS? I SEE 2 ALL THE REST ARE 5 OR MORE.(forget Zogby, he's in the tank for republicans)


RCP Average 10/21 - 10/27 -- -- 50.6 43.4 Obama +7.2
Rasmussen Reports 10/25 - 10/27 3000 LV 2.0 51 46 Obama +5
Diageo/Hotline 10/25 - 10/27 878 LV 3.6 50 42 Obama +8
Reuters/C-SPAN/Zogby 10/25 - 10/27 1202 LV 2.9 49 45 Obama +4
Gallup (Traditional)* 10/24 - 10/26 2448 LV 2.0 50 45 Obama +5
Gallup (Expanded)* 10/24 - 10/26 2343 LV 2.0 53 43 Obama +10
Pew Research 10/23 - 10/26 1198 LV -- 53 38 Obama +15
ABC News/Wash Post 10/23 - 10/26 1314 LV 2.5 52 45 Obama +7
GWU/Battleground 10/21 - 10/27 1000 LV 3.1 49 46 Obama +3
IBD/TIPP 10/22 - 10/26 886 LV 3.0 47 44 Obama +3
Newsweek 10/22 - 10/23 882 LV 4.0 53 41 Obama +12

Posted by: seemstome | October 28, 2008 12:35 PM | Report abuse

I'm not sure what difference it would make at this point. There's only one week left and many people have voted already. I think the Democratic tsunami is unstoppable now...

Posted by: RickJ | October 28, 2008 12:35 PM | Report abuse

Zouk hissyfits:

After seesawing between 3.2 and 3.9 points over the weekend, Obama's lead slipped to 2.8 Monday. Battleground also has Obama up 3, and other polls have tightened, including Rasmussen, Zogby and Gallup to 5. Some polls show swings in independents, but IBD/TIPP has them in a stable, 5-point range.


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Reality check:


Zogby's comments, today:

The race for President has seen ebbs and flows for the candidates, but it remains remarkably stable down the stretch. Compared to their numbers at the beginning of the daily tracking poll three weeks ago, Obama has increased his support by 1.3 points, while McCain’s support has decreased by 0.6 points.

Among those voters who have already cast ballots, Obama continues to lead – today by 18 points, while Obama and McCain are dead–even among those who are likely to vote but who have not yet cast their ballots.


Rasmussen comments, today:

Battleground state polls released yesterday showed Obama leading in Colorado, Florida, Ohio, and Virginia. With these latest results, Rasmussen Reports has moved Florida from “Toss-Up” to “Leans Democratic.”

Nationally, Obama has now been ahead by four-to-eight points every single day for 33 straight days. During that 33-day stretch, Obama’s voter support has stayed between 50% and 52% every day while McCain has stayed in the 44% to 46% range (see trends).


Gallup comments, today:

By a 71% to 23% margin, Americans expect that Barack Obama will be elected president in next Tuesday's election, including a 49% to 46% ratio of John McCain's own supporters who say Obama, rather than their own candidate, will win.

Gallup Poll Daily tracking from Friday through Sunday finds Barack Obama with a five percentage point lead over John McCain, 50% to 45%, in the presidential preferences of likely voters using Gallup's traditional model. He enjoys a more ample 10-point lead, 53% to 43%, using Gallup's expanded model.

Posted by: wpost4112 | October 28, 2008 12:35 PM | Report abuse

It's a bit too late to cut and run... There's only a week left before the election and many people have already voted. Not sure what races the Republicans can save at this point. Their party is becoming very divided amid the Democratic tsunami...

Posted by: RickJ | October 28, 2008 12:32 PM | Report abuse


Should Republicans Cut Bait?

Sure, I don't see why not. McCain/Palin is so desperate at present that they not only appears to be a potential threat to themselves but to our entire nation. Our country doesn't need the division, the bottom of the barrel scare tactics nor more disillusioned outbursts from Mac and Pac. If they can't get it together by now, what would think they could become solid ever. Please, give the world a break and stage left you two. Obama has it under control, so bail out Mac(McCain) and Pac(Palin). God Bless America!

Posted by: Nisey01 | October 28, 2008 12:32 PM | Report abuse

so it seems the messiah still can't finish any job he undertakes. Quit community organizing, voted PRESENT in the state senate, had to get ayers to write his book, never published a single article as an editor, never did a bit of research or scholarship as a professor, never passed a single bill as a US Senator. Now, in his usual fashion, he can't seal the deal on his overreaching presidential campaign.

oct 25 +3.9 Obambi
Oct 26 + 3.2 Obambi
Oct 27 + 2.8 Obambi

Trend prediction
Oct 28 +2.4
Oct 29 +2
Oct 30 +1.5
Nov 1 +1
Nov 2 +.5
Nov 3 0
nov 4 -0.5

Boo hoo, another loony lib on the ash heap of history. the answer to a trivial pursuit question.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | October 28, 2008 12:30 PM | Report abuse

Should Republicans Cut Bait?

Sure, I don't see why not. McCain/Palin is so desperate at present that they not only appears to be a potential threat to themselves but to our entire nation. Our country doesn't need the division, the bottom of the barrel scare tactics nor more disillusioned outbursts from Mac and Pac. If they can't get it together by now, what would think they could become solid ever. Please, give the world a break and stage left you two. Obama has it under control, so bail out Mac(McCain) and Pac(Palin).

Posted by: Nisey01 | October 28, 2008 12:29 PM | Report abuse

Republican's are defending the wealth that they have hoarded at the expense of the middle class and they won't give up easily.
The Bush tax cuts have favored them disproportionately and concentrated wealth in a very small percentage of the population.
Unfortunately, McCain voted to extend all of the Bush tax cuts in 2008 and if elected president will work to insure that happens.

Posted by: seemstome | October 28, 2008 12:24 PM | Report abuse

After seesawing between 3.2 and 3.9 points over the weekend, Obama's lead slipped to 2.8 Monday. Battleground also has Obama up 3, and other polls have tightened, including Rasmussen, Zogby and Gallup to 5. Some polls show swings in independents, but IBD/TIPP has them in a stable, 5-point range.

It seems my analysis from yesterday is spot on. the undecideds are breaking for Mac by 2-1. that means the 3 point advantage will melt away as the remaining 8 percent decide against socialism and big government.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | October 28, 2008 12:22 PM | Report abuse

Zouk upchucks:

the FRAUD president - voter fraud, fundraising fraud, resume fraud, tax fraud, mortgage fraud. Standing on the shoulders of the clintons.

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Um, no. The "Fraud President" belongs to George Bush who lied us into the Iraq Invasion and occupation, over 4000 American deaths, trillions of debt and a completely and permanently unstable Middle East.

A few wayward donations is nothing compared to the vast evil perpetrated by George Bush.

But, then again, Zouk, given that you are an expert at straining out mosquitoes while swallowing frogs, your lopsided morality is understandable.

Posted by: wpost4112 | October 28, 2008 12:19 PM | Report abuse

For the record, Chris, whatever the RNC did in 1996, it did not include putting any late money into the Senate races. Believe me, I was there. We picked up two more seats that cycle because we were the first to employ national committee independent expenditures and had solid candidates with strong campaigns who fought it out state by state rather than counting on any kind of national message or tide.

Posted by: jheubusch | October 28, 2008 12:18 PM | Report abuse

Oh please! I suspect we will all be VERY surprised on Nov. 5th. Democrats should be at least 20 points ahead by now, not the statistically insignificant 3-4 point.

NEVER UNDERESTIMATE THE STUPIDITY OF THE AMERICAN ELECTORATE!


Obama/Biden '08

(G-d willing...)

Posted by: VMR1 | October 28, 2008 12:18 PM | Report abuse

Should Republicans Cut Bait?

Sure and asap. Reason so and in my honest opinion the republicans don't seem to respect the fact that this is a historic election and that it is Obama whom repesents this presidential seat to a "T".
The republicans need to reserve a decent space in history and accept the fact that the political and historic aspect of this election don't seat them in the books. Study your history, read the books and look at the history of this entire world and see that there's no seat for you McCain. OBAMA/BIDEN 08! GOD BLESS AMERICA!

Posted by: Nisey01 | October 28, 2008 12:18 PM | Report abuse

Oh please! I suspect we will all be VERY surprised on Nov. 5th. Democrats should be at least 20 points ahead by now, not the statistically insignificant 3-4 point.

NEVER UNDERESTIMATE THE STUPIDITY OF THE AMERICAN ELECTORATE!


Obama/Biden '08

(G-d willing...)

Posted by: VMR1 | October 28, 2008 12:17 PM | Report abuse

From a Lib no less:

ON the question of public fund ing of presidential cam paigns, we Democrats who strongly support Sen. Barack Obama's candidacy and who previously supported limits on campaign spending and who haven't objected to Obama's opting out of the presidential funding system face an awkward fact: Either we are hypocrites, or we were wrong to support such limitations in the first place.


If the messiah is so easy at lying and then reneging, imagine what his final tax policy will look like.

"When I said I would only tax the top 5%, I meant at the old spending levels. with my new spending priorities, I will have to tax anyone who is working at least 60%. but don't worry, we know what to do with it.""

Posted by: king_of_zouk | October 28, 2008 12:17 PM | Report abuse

"Should Republicans Cut Bait?"

Would it work?

I suppose desperate times call for desperate measures, and all that. I just don't see the merit of swapping tactics in the absence of a strategy.

Posted by: bsimon1 | October 28, 2008 12:10 PM | Report abuse

More good news:

Pew Research:

"Barack Obama leads John McCain by a 52% to 36% margin in Pew’s latest nationwide survey of 1,325 registered voters. This is the fourth consecutive survey that has found support for the Republican candidate edging down....

Just as ominous for the Republican candidate, Obama holds a 53% to 34% lead among the sizable minority of voters (15%) who say they have already voted. Among those who plan to vote early but have not yet voted (16% of voters), 56% support Obama, while 37% support McCain."

and a curious snippet from Politico's Playbook about Palin:

"In conversation with Playbook, a top McCain adviser one-ups the priceless “diva” description, calling her “a whack job.”

Posted by: wpost4112 | October 28, 2008 12:09 PM | Report abuse

Obama's Credit Card Scheme Gets Noticed Evidence continues to mount that Obama’s campaign allowed donors to engage in massive fraud by allowing individuals to use a single credit card to make multiple donations Newsmax

the FRAUD president - voter fraud, fundraising fraud, resume fraud, tax fraud, mortgage fraud. Standing on the shoulders of the clintons.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | October 28, 2008 12:09 PM | Report abuse

The argument contradicts itself. The warnings about the perils of one-party are coming from the party that governed the country with irresponsible incompetence.

I have two responses: First woman speaker of the House. First black President. I think that both of them feel the burden of future history on their shoulders.

With the same certainty that the immediate future will see better management on Wall Street , the government of the country will become more competent and responsible. There _is_ a real risk that the government might become a little less corrupt and a little more conscientious. I’ve not (yet) heard a permanent Democratic majority as goal of the Obama administration, and will vote against him should he ever adopt such a frivolous stupid stance.

Posted by: DonJasper | October 28, 2008 12:05 PM | Report abuse

DIVIDED GOVERNMENT HAS GOTTEN NOTHING DONE.

SO THE VOTERS MAY OPT TO TRY DEM DOMINANCE.


The divided government argument just doesn't wash when subjected to empirical evidence. It's been more of a road-block and an impediment to progress than a check on undue influence of one branch of government over another.

It's a desperation argument and this is the year that voters just may not buy it.


BUT WILL THE ELECTION EVEN MATTER? Not when government-supported "vigilante injustice" squads are "gang stalking" American citizens, making a mockery of the rule of law:

http://www.nowpublic.com/world/american-gestapo-state-supported-terrorism-targets-u-s-citizens
OR members.nowpublic.com/scrivener

WHAT IF THEY COULD SHOOT YOU
WITHOUT LEAVING A TRACE? THEY CAN.
http://www.nowpublic.com/world/zap-have-you-been-targeted-directed-energy-weapon-victims-organized-gang-stalking-say-its-happening-usa-1
OR members.nowpublic.com/scrivener

Posted by: scrivener50 | October 28, 2008 11:58 AM | Report abuse

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Did we surrender when the Nazis bombed Pearl Harbor ???

Just kidding.

McCain is going to pull this out.

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Tape of Obama revealing his true thinking on redistribution of wealth

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iivL4c_3pck


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Let's all review how this year, not decades ago. OBAMA REFUSED TO DISAVOW Rev. Wright and his BLACK LIBERATION THEOLOGY TEACHINGS.


What is worse is that Obama exposed his children to the HATE OF BLACK LIBERATION THEOLOGY FOR YEARS.


EXPOSED HIS CHILDREN TO THAT RACIST HATE UNTIL IT BECAME POLITICALLY IMPOSSIBLE FOR OBAMA TO CONTINUE TO BRING HIS CHILDREN TO THE RACIST CHURCH !


IF A WHITE candidate had a similar church, the Washignton Post would be railing against that candidate.


The bias is great, the racism is unbelievable. The media has given Obama so many passes.


Then they have to go and get some FALSE CHARGES FROM DECADES AGO.


Investigate Obama and his democratic friends in Chicago.


Investigate his friend REZKO who has been indicted and whose story much of America does not know.


Investigate all the connections between Michele Obama and Farrakhan.


BE SERIOUS MEDIA.


YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING DRINKING THE KOOL-AID OF THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN TALKING POINTS AS IF IT WERE TRUTH.


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Posted by: 37thandOSt | October 28, 2008 11:57 AM | Report abuse

John McCain 2000

"I believe that when you really look at the tax code the very wealthy because they can afford tax lawyers and all kinds of loopholes really don't pay as much as you think they do, when you just look at the percentages. And I think middle income Americans, working Americans, who when you count in payroll taxes, sales taxes, mortgage -- all of the, all of the taxes that working Americans pay -- I think you would also think that they also deserve very significant relief."


John McCain now

"spreading the wealth is just socialism"

What happened to this John McCain?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2JPbQOHEkY

Corporations first, Country Last

Posted by: seemstome | October 28, 2008 11:47 AM | Report abuse

Did you see that amazing video obtained by the Los Angeles Times of Sen. Barack Obama toasting a prominent former PLO member at an Arab American Action Network meeting in 2003? The video in which Obama gives Yasser Arafat’s frontman a warm embrace, as Bill Ayers look on? You haven’t seen it? Me, neither. The Los Angeles Times refuses to release it.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | October 28, 2008 11:35 AM | Report abuse

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