Network News

X My Profile
View More Activity

Biden's Aggressive Approach

DENVER -- After two connections, a stop at Berghoff's at Chicago's O'Hare airport, and a series of buses, trams and golf carts, The Fix has finally made it to the Pepsi Center where Barack Obama will be nominated in four days time.

The news of the day is (obviously) the formal unveiling of Delaware Sen. Joe Biden as Obama's vice presidential running mate earlier this afternoon in Springfield, Ill.

The fight is on -- literally -- to define Biden. The Republican National Committee has unveiled a "Biden Gaffe Clock" to track the misstatements of the Delaware Senator. The Obama campaign has issued a release with words of praise for Biden offered by three Republicans -- Sens. Chuck Hagel (Neb.), Arlen Specter (Pa.) and Dick Lugar (Ind.).

Expect more of the same over the next few days as Biden, a known commodity inside the Beltway but relatively unknown outside of it, will be introduced -- for good and bad -- to the average voter.

While The Fix has been on the road most of the day, we did manage to watch -- and read -- Biden's speech in Springfield and it reminded us of very important thing: not only is Biden intimately familiar with McCain's record in the Senate but he is also more than willing to savage the Arizona senator -- with a smile.

"I've known John for 35 years," said Biden during his remarks, adding later: "You can't change America . . . when you know your first four years as president will look exactly like the last eight years of George Bush's presidency."

What Biden gives Obama is not only someone who can throw a punch but also someone who has been in the ring with their common opponent for many years. Biden's job in the remaining months of this campaign, as he made clear today, is to go at McCain hard and regularly -- speaking as a "friend" from their common service in the Senate.

Biden's aggressive approach to McCain and his record allows Obama to keep his hands (largely) clean -- focusing on his positive vision for the country rather than being seen as slinging mud, a trait that turns voters off.

By Chris Cillizza  |  August 23, 2008; 6:32 PM ET
Categories:  Eye on 2008  
Save & Share:  Send E-mail   Facebook   Twitter   Digg   Yahoo Buzz   Del.icio.us   StumbleUpon   Technorati   Google Buzz   Previous: Analysis: What Biden's Pick Means
Next: FixCam: Denver Edition!

Comments

10 reasons to vote for change:

- No more Guantanimo bay and torture.
- No more ripping the constitution to justify a Bush preference
- No more panicky attacks on countries who have not done anything to us
- No more lobbyists writing legistlation
- Finish rebuilding New Orleans
- Enforcing the rules for lending
- Enforcing the rules for short trading
- No more political hacks in the DoJ
- No more fake reports from the CIA
- No more 'edits' of the science by political know-nothings

Everyone who feels like they are benefitting from any of the above should continue to vote for George Bush look-alikes.

The rest of America should clean house!

Posted by: Anonymous | August 24, 2008 7:01 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: larry the cable guy | August 24, 2008 5:34 PM | Report abuse

Todays WPost

Biden's Son, Brother Named in Two Suits
By Kimberly Kindy and Joe Stephens
Washington Post Staff Writers

Sunday, August 24, 2008; Page A09

A son and a brother of Sen. Joseph R. Biden Jr. (D-Del.) are accused in two lawsuits of defrauding a former business partner and an investor of millions of dollars in a hedge fund deal that went sour, court records show.

The Democratic vice presidential candidate's son Hunter, 38, and brother James, 59, assert instead that their former partner defrauded them by misrepresenting his experience in the hedge fund industry and recommending that they hire a lawyer with felony convictions.

The legal actions have been playing out in New York State Supreme Court since 2007, and they focus on Hunter and James Biden's involvement in Paradigm Companies LLC, a hedge fund group. Hunter Biden, a Washington lobbyist, briefly served as president of the firm.

A lawsuit filed by their former partner Anthony Lotito Jr. asserts in court papers that the deal was crafted to get Hunter Biden out of lobbying because his father was concerned about the impact it would have on his bid for the White House. Biden was running for the Democratic nomination at the time the suit was filed.

Hunter Biden was made president with an annual salary of $1.2 million, despite his inexperience in the hedge fund industry, the lawsuit said. Before that, he had been part of the Washington law firm Oldaker, Biden & Belair, which earned $1.76 million in lobbying revenue in the first half of 2006, according to Congressional Quarterly's CQ MoneyLine. One of its biggest clients is the National Association of Shareholder and Consumer Attorneys, a District-based group representing law firms specializing in investment and corporate law.


Hunter Biden is one of many children and relatives of prominent members of Congress who have made their careers as lobbyists. He returned to lobbying after less than a year with Paradigm.

Lotito's lawsuit alleges that James Biden called him in January 2006 to arrange a job for Hunter Biden. It says James Biden told him that his brother (Sen. Biden) "was concerned with the impact that Hunter's lobbying activities might have on his expected campaign for the 2008 Democratic presidential nomination," and, "Biden told Lotito that, in light of these concerns, his brother had asked him to seek Lotito's assistance in finding employment for Hunter in a non-lobbying capacity."

Lotito does not provide any direct evidence of the senator's involvement and offers no witnesses to the assertion.

The campaign of Sens. Barack Obama and Biden declined to comment on the case, referring questions to Nicholas Gravante Jr., a lawyer representing Hunter and James Biden. Gravante said assertions that Joseph Biden told his brother he was concerned about his son's lobbying are "absolutely false."
-------
Great Choice...12/07 "Iran poses no nuclear threat to the United States"
J. Biden

Biden's 7 Glass Houses

1. Iran no nuclear threat
2. African Americans ruining DC Schools comment in Iowa
3. Indian 7 eleven cashier insult
4. Plagiarism in 88 campaign
5. Almost thrown out of Law School
6. Claimed to be top of his class and to have a masters degree
7. Declared he would be proud to serve with or against John McCain

Attacked McCain less than a day after cordial phone call from McCain- now must sit back and be bathed in the sad truth...truth, that's a novel idea for a plagiarist!

Posted by: Scott | August 24, 2008 5:32 PM | Report abuse

Todays WPost

Biden's Son, Brother Named in Two Suits
By Kimberly Kindy and Joe Stephens
Washington Post Staff Writers

Sunday, August 24, 2008; Page A09

A son and a brother of Sen. Joseph R. Biden Jr. (D-Del.) are accused in two lawsuits of defrauding a former business partner and an investor of millions of dollars in a hedge fund deal that went sour, court records show.

The Democratic vice presidential candidate's son Hunter, 38, and brother James, 59, assert instead that their former partner defrauded them by misrepresenting his experience in the hedge fund industry and recommending that they hire a lawyer with felony convictions.

The legal actions have been playing out in New York State Supreme Court since 2007, and they focus on Hunter and James Biden's involvement in Paradigm Companies LLC, a hedge fund group. Hunter Biden, a Washington lobbyist, briefly served as president of the firm.

A lawsuit filed by their former partner Anthony Lotito Jr. asserts in court papers that the deal was crafted to get Hunter Biden out of lobbying because his father was concerned about the impact it would have on his bid for the White House. Biden was running for the Democratic nomination at the time the suit was filed.

Hunter Biden was made president with an annual salary of $1.2 million, despite his inexperience in the hedge fund industry, the lawsuit said. Before that, he had been part of the Washington law firm Oldaker, Biden & Belair, which earned $1.76 million in lobbying revenue in the first half of 2006, according to Congressional Quarterly's CQ MoneyLine. One of its biggest clients is the National Association of Shareholder and Consumer Attorneys, a District-based group representing law firms specializing in investment and corporate law.


Hunter Biden is one of many children and relatives of prominent members of Congress who have made their careers as lobbyists. He returned to lobbying after less than a year with Paradigm.

Lotito's lawsuit alleges that James Biden called him in January 2006 to arrange a job for Hunter Biden. It says James Biden told him that his brother (Sen. Biden) "was concerned with the impact that Hunter's lobbying activities might have on his expected campaign for the 2008 Democratic presidential nomination," and, "Biden told Lotito that, in light of these concerns, his brother had asked him to seek Lotito's assistance in finding employment for Hunter in a non-lobbying capacity."

Lotito does not provide any direct evidence of the senator's involvement and offers no witnesses to the assertion.

The campaign of Sens. Barack Obama and Biden declined to comment on the case, referring questions to Nicholas Gravante Jr., a lawyer representing Hunter and James Biden. Gravante said assertions that Joseph Biden told his brother he was concerned about his son's lobbying are "absolutely false."
-------
Great Choice...12/07 "Iran poses no nuclear threat to the United States"
J. Biden

Biden's 7 Glass Houses

1. Iran no nuclear threat
2. African Americans ruining DC Schools comment in Iowa
3. Indian 7 eleven cashier insult
4. Plagiarism in 88 campaign
5. Almost thrown out of Law School
6. Claimed to be top of his class and to have a masters degree
7. Declared he would be proud to serve with or against John McCain

Posted by: Anonymous | August 24, 2008 5:25 PM | Report abuse

Middle class Americans have been hit hard in the past eight years - loss of jobs, shrinking wages, high health care costs, higher energy bills resulting in a trickle down effect on higher grocery bills, and the mortgage problems.

We want our government to ensure the safety of our consumer products, our banking systems, the security of our nation, our transportation systems.

The infrastructure of America depends upon having a large and solid middle class. They pay the most in taxes, they are the ones who can afford to buy homes and Social Security depends on the taxes raised from the sweat of the middle class, not from the taxes of rich corporate magnates.

People who were once living a solidly middle class lifestyle have slipped or are on the verge of slipping into the lower class because their jobs have been sent overseas, or because their benefits have been cut by greedy corporate magnates. Middle class America is struggling to survive.

We can't afford 8 more years of a Republican administration that takes care of the rich while ignoring the needs of the middle class.

Obama-Biden are products of Middle Class America, unlike McCain-Romney. Obama-Biden weren't born with silver spoons in their mouths. They understand what it is like growing up in families that struggled to make a daily living, they are in touch with Middle Class America. McCain-Romney have never been in the middle class and don't know what it is like to struggle with monthly bills.

The voting booth is the only place where lower income and stuggling middle class Americans can revolt against the multi-millionaires who are running/ruining our nation.

Posted by: nevadaandy | August 24, 2008 1:37 PM | Report abuse

JOHN MCCAIN, TRAITOR TO HIS COUNTRY, COLLABORATOR WITH THE ENEMY, MILITARY DISGRACE.
Ted Sampley, a Vietnam Veteran and former Green Beret, issued a CHALLENGE to John McCain "If you can show us that the information presented in our mailer is untruthful . . . we will Stand Down" This CHALLENGE was issued during an interview with INSIDE EDITION on January 17, 2008.
John, family members of Vietnam POW/MIA(s) have been waiting for more then 14 years for you to have the courage to face them eye to eye in front of the American Public - Here is your opportunity for some "STRAIGHT TALK." Stop hiding behind your fabricated "War Hero" persona. You know we can prove your collaborations with declassified government documents . . . It is time for the American people to get to know the REAL John McCain - the John McCain that the POW/MIA families witnessed during the 1991-93 US Senate Select Committee on POW/MIA Affairs .
Bring It On John! HERE IS OUR NUMBER 252-527-0442

------------
While John McCain was standing up for fellow soldiers as a prisoner of war in Vietnam, "fightin' Joe Biden" was fightin' hard to become a career policitian. That's the Biden experience. The whole effort to find a running mate with experience once again underscores the glaring fact that Obama does not have enough experience to be president.

Posted by: ttj | August 24, 2008 10:02 AM

Posted by: Anonymous | August 24, 2008 1:01 PM | Report abuse

Activists accused McCain of stonewalling the release of POW records because they contained evidence he had collaborated with the North Vietnamese.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MUY9S6iCvk
--------

While John McCain was standing up for fellow soldiers as a prisoner of war in Vietnam, "fightin' Joe Biden" was fightin' hard to become a career policitian. That's the Biden experience. The whole effort to find a running mate with experience once again underscores the glaring fact that Obama does not have enough experience to be president.

Posted by: ttj | August 24, 2008 10:02 AM

Posted by: Anonymous | August 24, 2008 1:01 PM | Report abuse

You have to be careful with the viet nam stuff.
Please read

THE Admiral SON.

In Oct. 26, 1967, the admiral's son while flying his 23rd mission over North Vietnam, once again fell from the sky, this time landing in the hands of a brutal enemy. He was beaten and bayoneted. His shoulder was smashed and his right calf was nearly perpendicular to his knee.
The severely wounded McCain was finally thrown on the back of a truck and hauled to the infamous Hanoi Hilton prison camp. Immediately, his captors began to interrogate him using sadistic methods they had perfected on hundreds of captured U.S. servicemen before him.
His interrogators demanded military information. When he refused, his guards kicked and pounded him mercilessly.
McCain admits that three to four days after he was captured, he promised the Vietnamese, "I'll give you military information if you will take me to the hospital."
McCain also admits that the Vietnamese rushed him to a hospital, but denies he was given "special medical treatment" because of his promise.
He claims he was given medical care normally unavailable to captured Americans only because the Vietnamese learned he was the son of Admiral John S. McCain, Jr., the soon-to-be commander of all U.S. forces in the Pacific including those fighting in Vietnam.
The Vietnamese figured that because POW McCain's father was of such high military rank that he was of royalty or the governing circle in the United States. Thereafter the communist bragged that they had captured "the crown prince"and treated him as a "special prisoner."
Less than two weeks after McCain was taken to a hospital, Hanoi's press began quoting him giving specific military information, including the name of the aircraft carrier on which he was based, numbers of U.S. pilots that had been lost, the number of aircraft in his flight, information about location of rescue ships and the order of which his attack was supposed to take place.
There is also evidence that McCain received "special" medical treatment from a Soviet physician.
After he was out of the hospital, McCain continued cooperating with the North Vietnamese for a period of three years. He made radio broadcasts for the communists and met with foreign delegations, including the Cubans. He was interviewed by at least two North Vietnamese generals one of whom was Vietnam's national hero, General Vo Nguyen Giap.
On June 4, 1969, a U.S. wire service story headlined "PW Songbird Is Pilot Son of Admiral," reported one of McCain's radio broadcasts: "Hanoi has aired a broadcast in which the pilot son of the United States commander in the Pacific, Adm. John McCain, purportedly admits to having bombed civilian targets in North Vietnam and praises medical treatment he has received since being taken prisoner.
McCain says he violated the Code of Conduct only when the North Vietnamese brutally tortured him. He further claims that he was so distraught afterwards that he tried to commit suicide. He has never explained why his "aid to the enemy" continued for more than three years.
Even though there are no reports in the public record from other POWs who witnessed McCain's claims of torture and heroics or his attempted suicide, the American media has accepted his version of events word for word, no questions asked.
Yet, the same press that transformed the admiral's son into an "incredible war hero--an inspiration to all Americans," vilified the two grunts.
Comparing the incidents surrounding the fates of three POWs,' who collaborated with the enemy, makes one question why two faced possible execution for treason, while the third won acclaim as a hero fit to be President of the United States.
Once more, Lady Luck had smiled on John McCain . . . or was it the admiral?

---
While John McCain was standing up for fellow soldiers as a prisoner of war in Vietnam, "fightin' Joe Biden" was fightin' hard to become a career policitian. That's the Biden experience. The whole effort to find a running mate with experience once again underscores the glaring fact that Obama does not have enough experience to be president.

Posted by: ttj | August 24, 2008 10:02 AM

Posted by: Anonymous | August 24, 2008 12:56 PM | Report abuse

Anonymous at 6:17,
With all due respect, (because you bring a real issue, not innuendo and rumor) A politician has to work with the system that's there. Jimmy Carter came in as an outsider and didn't try to work with the establishment. He didn't accomplish much despite being smart and capable. If Obama wants to accomplish things he has to both work with the people in D.C. and represent everyone, not just the left. Bringing Biden in shows that he can do both.

I look forward to your remarks.

Posted by: Sunshine | August 24, 2008 12:49 PM | Report abuse

Wow Biden was a good choice, The Republicans are in trouble now. there is just too many Gaffs moments by McCain. They need a new Nominee without so much baggage and who is sharp., instead of slightly senile. I watched video of McCain talking about his failed first marrige at http://www.mccanes.com

Posted by: Nick | August 24, 2008 12:07 PM | Report abuse

Truth & Justice why does Obama tout Chinese infrastructure as superior to ours? Because he is a socialist! China has recently enjoyed a trend toward private ownership of business but make no mistake they are governed by totalitarian, facist regime. Their government seized property and forced their population to construct these displays of grandeur to impress the world as socialists do. Meanwhile the Chinese suffer at the hands of their own government.

According to dictionary.com the definition of socialism is a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole.

Obama, a community organizer, has an agenda that fits the bill. Social medicine, free college and confiscating profits from the oil companies and redistributing them. He wants to tax the rich and give to the poor. HE IS A SOCIALIST.

Posted by: The Mayor 112233 | August 24, 2008 11:44 AM | Report abuse

Ronald Reagan ( the Great Communicator) wrote in his diary June 15, 1987 of Joe Biden ; "pure demagogue"
ISBN 978 -0- 06-0876005 Page 507 "The Reagan Diaries"

" a leader who makes use of popular prejudices and false claims and promises in order to gain power"
Merriam - Webster's


Barack on the other hand seemed irritated to have to answer tough questions without the drooling media covering his every gaff. He was off his game without notes or briefing papers and seemed ill-equipped to dig deep and respond from his heart. He was well-briefed, but briefing cannot compensate for lack of substance and foundational absolutes. His flowery rhetoric and non-answer sound bites just were not cutting it, and the crowd knew it. http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/015/452yoxdo.asp?pg=2

to speak out against this holocaust is a sacrilege to those who cower in the corners of political correctness while courage takes a stand.

http://www.redstate.com/diaries/redstate/2008/aug/21/in-2002-barack-obama-supported-infanticide-a/

Posted by: rtfanning | August 24, 2008 10:55 AM | Report abuse

Please fellow Americans, check your vocabulary! Socialism? Come on, that is silly when historically we have done well in this country with balancing our free market system with programs that advance our population (public education). Since Reagan, we have tripled the cost of providing for our own because he ripped the mentally ill and mentally challenged out of care and onto the streets. Our insurance premimiums are strangling us because the medical profession and the insurance racketeers have gouged us with the cost of treating the homeless and underinsured. I would rather have the government manage this through taxes than allow the CEO's of the medical empire and insurance empires go unchecked. If you think the democrats are socialist, you have confused yourself and you lack a full understanding of political science.

In reality, democrats (mainstream) have become more moderate and easily influenced by wealth than in the years of yore. That is why I will contribute not to the DNC but to Obama's grass root's foundation. Hate him, if you like, but Nader is right about the two party system.

My future prediction is that the Republicans will go the way of the Whigs and the Green Party will be the new liberal party for the future.

Hope: Obama/Biden

Posted by: Truth & Justice | August 24, 2008 10:04 AM | Report abuse

While John McCain was standing up for fellow soldiers as a prisoner of war in Vietnam, "fightin' Joe Biden" was fightin' hard to become a career policitian. That's the Biden experience. The whole effort to find a running mate with experience once again underscores the glaring fact that Obama does not have enough experience to be president.

Posted by: ttj | August 24, 2008 10:02 AM | Report abuse

Biden will give Obama the one thing he needs. Someone who can peel the bark off McSame and Romnut.

Posted by: Crempole Stalwart | August 24, 2008 7:47 AM | Report abuse

Obama is a guy who isn't sure what he is doing.

He is trying to do everything right to appeal to....I dont know who.

This is a guy who ran on change but he brings in one of the worst entrenched hacks in DC .

Biden got to DC ten years before McCain!

EIGHT YEARS BEFORE REAGAN!

Four years before Carter!

Change?

Kaine and Sibelius would have been better choices consistent with his message of change and new politics.

Obama should refund all the donors money for misrepresenting himself.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 24, 2008 6:17 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: tjk | August 24, 2008 5:12 AM | Report abuse

The Obama/Biden ticket was THE dream ticket - since before the Iowa Caucuses - of this almost 60, white, southern, devoutly Christian, ex-Republican female.

(Senator Obama's wisdom is only reinforced in my eyes with this hugely pragmatic choice.)

Posted by: Carmen Cameron | August 24, 2008 3:30 AM | Report abuse

SEN. OLYMPIA SNOWE of Maine would be a excellent VP for Sen. McCain.
She is smart, honest, classy, pretty, woman, experienced, moderate and refined. Sen. McCain and her have much in common.

Please, check her out on wikipedia. She would be an excellent choice, no matter who Dem. chooses.
-----------------
Ms Snow is a great person. She is smart enough to know McCain really would not be a good president. And like Ms Rice, she has too much class and smarts to want to be on his ticket. Ms Snow, however, would be a great one to run for president later on. IF she did get on McCain's ticket, any aspirations she might have for president will be denied. You see, McCain is a loser!! And he keeps proving it more and more everyday.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 24, 2008 2:58 AM | Report abuse

McCain/Rice anyone?

Posted by: Hades
-----------------
Negative. Ms Rice has way too much class and intelligence to want to be on the same ticket with McCain. McCain would also look like the little fat cretin that he is against the elegant Ms Rice.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 24, 2008 2:52 AM | Report abuse

SEN. OLYMPIA SNOWE of Maine would be a excellent VP for Sen. McCain.
She is smart, honest, classy, pretty, woman, experienced, moderate and refined. Sen. McCain and her have much in common.

Please, check her out on wikipedia. She would be an excellent choice, no matter who Dem. chooses.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 24, 2008 2:43 AM | Report abuse

Dear Democrats,

Beware of some of the REPUBLICANS and some more CONSERVATIVE Independents who have decided to 'support' Obama. They love to use the Obama platform to attack the Clintons to get HER supporters to turn against Obama. These PHONY Obama supporters will NOT be voting for Obama come election day. They are in this posing as Obama supporters to do anything they can to try and divide the Dems against each other and turn them away from Obama. Not that some of the Reps and Inds are not truly for Obama, some of them are, but believe it, some of them are nothing more than impostors stirring the Dem pot. They are among here online right on these forums and they are right in your neighborhood, like one of my neighbors who I discovered after she voted for Obama just defeat Hillary, that she will be voting for McCain in NOVEMBER. Ask yourself this question if you still don't believe it - Do you believe Republicans in the past have done just about ANYTHING to steal an election? I rest my case.

Obama/Biden '08

Posted by: Democrats 08 | August 24, 2008 2:40 AM | Report abuse

C. Cilizza,

You write that Biden can not only throw a punch but also can get in the ring with a common opponent.

Tell me something, I thought part of Obama's "change" was not to run a negative campaign. Obama was supposed to "rise above it all."

Now, you, one of his many MSM surrogates, write about throwing punches and getting in the ring.

You know, it sounds like the story of a kid who's a wimp and doesn't want to play rough. But, along comes a friend who's a tough guy, so now the kid wants to talk smack.

Oh, and your giddiness comes through in your writing.

I still think McCain is going to win in November.

Posted by: J
------------
J, McCain, and Cindy, said McCain "WOULD RUN A CLEAN CAMPAIGN"; they also said, McCain "WOULD NOT ENGAGE IN PERSONAL ATTACKS"; they also said, McCain "WOULD STICK WITH THE ISSUES"!! McCain has resored to RUNNING A DIRTY ROVE CLOSE TRASH-AND-BURN CAMPAIGN, McCAIN HAS RESORTED TO VERY PERSONAL ATTACKS; AND McCAIN HAS NOT STUCK WITH THE ISSUES. Guess all of this is okay with you??

McCain: 11-12 houses/condos/properties and a huge ranch
McCain: Had a spouse, chose to cheat on that spouse with many women, finally settled on Cindy, shacked up with her, and got their marriage license BEFORE he divorced Carol, his first wife.

McCain: 11-12 houses
McCain: 2 spouses

Obama: one house
Obama: one spouse

Biden: one spouse (first spouse killed in auto accident)
Biden: One house

Which of these three men showed bad judgement??
Which of these three men showed great disrespect to his wife and children??
Which of these three men has NO character??
Which of these three men has NO morals??
Which of these three men has NO integrity??
Which of these three men has NO honesty??
Which of these three men has NO judgement??
Which of these three men has NO wisdom??
Which of these three men has NO vision??
Which of these three men almost FLUNKED out of the Naval Academy??
Which of these three men crashed five fighter planes??
Which of these three men almost destroyed an aircraft carrier??
Which of these three men killed 135 comrades because of his wrecklessness and trying to prove his machoism??
The answer to all of the above is noneother than John McCain!!

And some of you want him as your leader?? Amazing!!

Posted by: NinaK | August 24, 2008 2:18 AM | Report abuse

Why does everybody hate rich people? It's amazing to me that it's a bad thing that McCain owns seven houses. Isn't the American dream to become successful, wealthy and make a difference? McCain contributes nearly 30% of his income to charity compared to Obama's 1%. How do you like those apples. And Obama can't even help his half brother in Kenya who lives in a mud floored hut and lives on a dollar a month. Why don't any of you comment on how many people Cindy McCain's beer distributorship employs. Or how many people keep their jobs because she spends loads of cash bolstering our economy. It's pathetic and sickening to hear Democrats whining about how wealthy other people are. This is America. If you bring value to the table you get paid for it. I don't hear you complaining about the five million dollars Obama was paid to write a fictional account of his life. Or how about the kickbacks he received from Tony Rezko that helped him buy his McMansion in Chicago? It's absolutely disgusting to think that you are entitled to the money I make working to support my family. I pay 33% of my income to the federal government and they want more?? Why don't you give me your money?? Why don't you pay for my family's health care?? Why doesn't the government send me a check?? Because I have pride, dignity and self worth and I would never in a million years accept a handout even if I had to shovel sh*t for a living. The fact is that Obama is a Marxist and he gets his kicks stirring up class warfare.

Posted by: Why Be A Hater | August 24, 2008 2:10 AM | Report abuse

WILL THE ELECTION EVEN MATTER?

While the media debates the "horse race," they ignore the silent constitutional crisis that already has eroded the rule of law in America:

An illicit campaign for political dominance -- the extra-legal targeting of American citizens by government-supported Citizen "vigilante justice" volunteer organizations and Corps, and a network of secret government programs that destroy people's finances and degrade their health without benefit of due process of law.

Read about it here:

http://www.nowpublic.com/world/get-political-vic-livingston-opinion-expose-state-supported-vigilante-squads-doing-domestic-terrorism
http://www.nowpublic.com/world/zap-have-you-been-targeted-directed-energy-weapon-victims-organized-gang-stalking-say-its-happening-usa-1
http://members.nowpublic.com/scrivener

Posted by: scrivener | August 24, 2008 2:07 AM | Report abuse

Let's see how a hot-headed angry McCain responds to Biden talking about him and telling the truth about this trigger happy cowboy for a change. This could be fun and it's about time. In the true calling of the republican party McCain has began a nasty filthy campaign with no regard for the truth.Let's hope Biden will give him some of his own because it's apparent that Obama is incapable of doing so. Sometimes in this business a guy can be too nice and I'm afraid that may be the case with Obama

Posted by: Opa2 | August 24, 2008 2:05 AM | Report abuse

Obama is working from within using Joe Biden as a cover for his communist agenda. He needed an old white guy to fit the bill so he would look less threatening. Joe Biden is a stooge that will act as a guard dog for Obama. Obama comes from the Saul Alinsky school of community organizing. For his entire political career he has been surrounded by subversives, communists, and radical left wingers that believe in class warfare. He is an instigator and a divider. A vote for Obama is a vote for a hard left turn towards communism. Obama is creating race and class warfare as a political move. He wants to tax the rich and redistribute to the poor. I employ over 60 people and am independently wealthy because I have hard worked all of my life. I am living the American dream and I own three houses and a small commerical building that houses one of my businesses. I promise you that if Obama wins and increases my capital gains taxes, corporate taxes and income taxes I may be forced to lay off some of my employees. I might even shut down a couple of my break-even businesses. I will not lay down for this and I will fight to keep what I have worked for all of my life. I have an annual payroll of over four million dollars and employ men and and women of every race, religion and color. I will survive, but they might not. It's that simple. The federal government should not be able to confiscate and redistribute hard earned profits. It's unconstitutional. Hard working Americans, be careful what you wish for because Obama may send us spiraling into a depression like you have never seen the likes of. There are many wealthy employers who can survive with or without you and if you take away their incentive to make a profit, why should they bother?

Posted by: Say No To Obama | August 24, 2008 1:41 AM | Report abuse

HEY BYRON, DODO, MCCAIN'S VP PICK-MITT ROMNEY CAN RUN CIRCLES AROUND OBAMA AND BIDEN-HE'S BRILLIANT, AND HAS VAST POLITICAL AND BUSINESS EXPERIENCE-MITT ROMNEY IS BRILLIANT-GRADUATED NUMBER ONE IN HIS CLASS AT BYU, AND THEN GOT BOTH A JD IN LAW FROM HARVARD, WITH HONORS, AND GOT AN MBA FROM HARVARD, AND WAS AWARDED A BAKER SCHOLARSHIP FOR EXCELLENCE.

THEN HE GOES INTO THE PRIVATE SECTOR AND MAKEES 500 MILLION-AND THEN BECOMES A WELL REGARDED GOV. OF MASS.-MODERATE VIEWS (HE'D HAVE TO BE MODERATE, OR MASS CITIZENS WOULDN'T HAVE ACCEPTED HIM).

HONEST TO GOD, MITT ROMNEY IS THE BEST THING TO COME ALONG TO THE REPUBLICANS IN THE LAST 50 YEARS-HE COULD BE A BRILLIANT PRESIDENT-THERE WOULD BE FEW WHO COULD MATCH HIS EXPERTISE IN THE BUSINESS WORLD-AND HE SPEAKS FLUENT FRENCH AS WELL!

THOSE TWO KNUCKLEHEADED DEM. CANDIDATES OBAMA/BIDEN WILL SOON ENOUGH BE RELEGATED TO THE POLITICAL TRASH HEAP-JUST LIKE ALL THE REST OF THE DEM. LOSER TICKETS IN THE PAST 8 YEARS! LOSERS JUST LIKE DUKAKIS/BENTSEN!

Posted by: SPRING RAIN | August 24, 2008 1:33 AM | Report abuse

HOW SAD, OBAMA HAD TO PICK SOMEONE TO FIGHT HIS BATTLES FOR HIM, HUH? SOMEONE TO BE AN "ATTACK DOG," IN OTHER WORDS, OBAMA HAS TO GET "DADDY" TO BE THE MEANIE FOR HIM-GOSH,SOUND FAMILIAR?

AND DOESN'T ANYONE REALIZE IF YOU LET JOE BIDEN OUT OF HIS CAGE THAT HE'S GOING TO CAUSE WORLD WAR III, BECAUSE HE JUST DOESN'T HAVE THE MENTAL OR EMOTIONAL RESTRAINT NECESSARY NOT TO ACT IMPULSIVELY AND RECKLESSLY? IS THAT SO HARD TO DISCERN WITH THOSE "LOOSE LIPS SINK SHIPS" WACKY RACIAL COMMENTS OF HIS?

ANYONE WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER THAN THAT JERK! OBAMA BIN BIDEN INDEED!

Posted by: SPRING RAIN | August 24, 2008 1:28 AM | Report abuse

Biden is a superior pick!!! A VP candidate seldom, if ever, has a really positive impact on the race. I believe this choice will be the exception. Congratulations to Senator Obama on his choice. (And to you, too, Chris on your prediction.)

I cannot imagine McCain being able to match Obama's pick; I'll look forward to Chris' final prediction for the GOP.

Posted by: Byron | August 24, 2008 1:17 AM | Report abuse

High Strangeness Obama and McCain political ads.

Watching the random political adds showing up on http://illusions.me it first appears to be an Obama or McCain ad but then a few strange twists leaves one wondering did the Obama campaign do an ad for McCain and the McCain campaign do an ad for Obama? Or is it some others? Which is fitting because the page is about illusions and creating appearances.

Are some creating the appearance of being from a certain source only to disparage in subtle ways? What is the true source?

Posted by: Richard Thomas | August 24, 2008 12:59 AM | Report abuse

Obama wants Biden as an attack dog. Remember how he defined Giulianni as someone whose sentences only contain "a noun, a verb, and 9-11" Obama wants Biden to come up with a similar line about McCain.

Posted by: Steve Charb
----------------------
How about McCain's sentences containing only a noun, a verb, and POW? Yes, a noun, a verb, and POW. A noun, a verb, and POW!!!

I am so very tired of the Repubs making such a big deal out of McCain being a POW!! Thousands upon thousands of Americans have been POWs throughout our many wars, yet, the only one that gets credit and praise is John McCain....you would think McCain was and is THE ONE AND ONLY ONE POW IN OUR HISTORY OF WARS!! The Repubs and McCain have made him "THE ANNOINTED POW" when in fact there were much better POWs who truly put their COUNTRY FIRST AND KEPT THEIR LIPS SEALED, EVEN WHEN IT MEANT DEATH!! McCain was a "SONGBIRD", he caved in to making enemy ADs against his comrades and his country. McCain lies when he says he has always put his COUNTRY FIRST!! McCain was a VietCong Songbird!

Posted by: NinaK | August 24, 2008 12:58 AM | Report abuse

C. Cilizza,

You write that Biden can not only throw a punch but also can get in the ring with a common opponent.

Tell me something, I thought part of Obama's "change" was not to run a negative campaign. Obama was supposed to "rise above it all."

Now, you, one of his many MSM surrogates, write about throwing punches and getting in the ring.

You know, it sounds like the story of a kid who's a wimp and doesn't want to play rough. But, along comes a friend who's a tough guy, so now the kid wants to talk smack.

Oh, and your giddiness comes through in your writing.

I still think McCain is going to win in November.

Posted by: J | August 24, 2008 12:57 AM | Report abuse

THE BIDEN SELECTION: A GIFT TO THE GOP AND PUMA HILLARIANS?

• Questions of Policy and Personality Give Critics Pause


Joe Biden was the only candidate in the primaries who openly said Obama was not ready to be president. His statements already are being used against Obama in a devastating McCain TV ad.

His selection does little to assauge the anger of the PUMA Hillarians, especially considering the fact that Obama apparently did not give her serious consideration for VP.

Nor does the selection of a long-time Washington insider help to mollify the bruised feelings of the left-leaning Daily Kos/Move On types, who are likely to perceive the choice as another repudiation of Obama's "change" narrative.

Biden garnered few primary votes, a twice failed presidential candidate.

Biden's reputation as a gaffe machine was not diminished by his "successful dump" comment the other day. The words "clean and articulate," "That's a storybook, man!", "slight Indian accent," "slave state", and sections of a Neil Kinnock speech have entered the political lexicon under the definition of "Bidenisms."

Biden's history of plagiarism is not limited to the Kinnock speech. His biography shows that he avoided expulsion from law school over an earlier plagiarism incident.

Biden's long-windedness is legendary, and at times he seems full of himself. He told a critical questioner: "I think I have a higher IQ than you do."

Biden supported the Iraqi war, while Obama points to his own early opposition to the war as proof of his good judgment. Critics are likely to point out a contradiction there.

Biden, appearing on Fox News Channel, expressed support for the Bush administration's position that the legal concept of "posse comitatus," restricting the use of the armed services as a domestic police force, needed to be amended as part of the "war on terror." The administration's plan allowed for the president to seize and hold indefinitely persons accused of being "enemy combatants." (Biden did support the extension of habeas corpus rights to Guantanamo detainees, however.)

Biden is closely allied with the credit card industry, much of which is based on Delaware, and has supported legislation which some advocacy groups have called unfriendly to consumers.

And some of those who have experienced Biden up close report that he can be vindictive to those he perceives as having wronged him -- a Nixonian trait that could be regarded as disturbing in someone a heartbeat away from the power of the presidency.

In coming days, look for some these arguments to be raised not only by the McCain camp, but by disaffected members of what used to be Obama's base of support.

BOTTOM LINE: Biden's selection, generally greeted as a positive for Obama by the mainstream media, could actually solidify the opposition to his nomination and help forces loyal to Hillary Clinton prevent him from becoming the nominee.

Perhaps Biden will attempt to defuse these objections by addressing them head-on, before reporters start making inquiries on the campaign trail.

Posted by: Biden Time... | August 24, 2008 12:53 AM | Report abuse

Biden is a GREAT pick! Foreign policy, attack dog, 35 year record of independent thinking and fighting for change, hits the right demographics to compliment Obama (white, 65 y/o, Catholic with a blue collar background), a compelling personal story, and demonstrates how Obama will fill his cabinet with the Lincoln-style team of rivals!

What a great 1-2 punch!!!

As for who McCain picks now? I don't think Powell will do it so my dark horse candidate is Jeb Bush! He has a better reputation than his brother with all of the repo base with both (relative) youth and solid experience. He might do it for the national exposure it'd give him to set up his run for the top spot in 4 or 8 years.

Posted by: PeninsulaMatt | August 24, 2008 12:51 AM | Report abuse

As a sanity check I often talk politics with my 71 year old mom who still lives in Wisconsin. She is an independent who has probably voted for more Republicans than Democrats in her life. She said Biden seems like a man she could support. She likes his biography and passion. She'd have never voted for a ticket that included Hillary.

Dad will take more convincing. He is still worried about Obama's connection to the Weather Underground. (I blame Rush for this nonsense.) I don't know that he'd vote for pro-war McCain though so he'll probably go with Bob Barr.

Posted by: PeninsulaMatt | August 24, 2008 12:46 AM | Report abuse

McCain has lost his "Maverickism" and his soul to the Dirty Little Rove Clone.....He is running the same kind of slash-and-burn campaign which GWB and Big Rove ran against HIM in 2000. McCain LOVES THE SLASH AND BURN TACTICS SO WELL, HE IS NOW USING THEM TOO!!! Although, in 2000 McCain really did not like them, in fact he hated them. Hey, the McCains just bought another house recently, while thousands upon thousands are losing their homes. Maybe McCain is buying up these houses while they are being sold undervalued and turn around and sell them at hug profits when the market improves. Remember, McCain is a grabber and will do ANYTHING FOR MONEY AND POWER!! McCain is NOT a powerful man, he NEEDS POWER from outside himself to feel important. Look at how hard he is riding his POW to try and get into the White House. He is a senator who has accomplished very little in his 26 years in the senate....he, has, however, as a republican and a Bush clone brought us to the very EDGE of the cliff. Vote for McCain and he'll definitely push us OVER the cliff!! For all practical purposes, McCain is pretty much on his last leg, and if he has to go, he is taking the country with him. McCain stated: "Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran"; "keep sending those large orders of cigerattes to Iran, it is a good way to kill Iranians", and he stated he has always hated Russia, but he must LOVE Mr. Putin, since he thinks he is the president of Germany. He subconsciously wants to "PROTECT" Mr Putin by mentally removing him from Russia. You know, just like he and Gramm thought we were in a mental recession and McCain wanted us to have a "psychological effect" from his wanting to drill here, drill now---literally telling us if we THOUGHT drilling here and drilling now would relieve our gas costs NOW. Never mind that we would not see the FIRST DROP OF OIL FOR AT LEAST SEVEN YEARS!! McCain wants us to freak out and believe drilling will help us here and now. Talk about mental games McCain wants to play with us!! Poor, poor, Cindy, no wonder she looks like a maniquin, so stiff and so fearful, and so unsure of herself. Imagine the head games he plays on her and with her!!

Posted by: NinaK | August 24, 2008 12:42 AM | Report abuse


Obama/Biden

The Welfare Ticket

Posted by: Anonymous | August 24, 2008 12:39 AM | Report abuse

You have been watching the counter for hous? I think you need to get a life. No one ever clicks on any of those links people post. It is a waste of time. Same with those long things people copy and paste. No one reads them.

-----------
Obama Makes Fun Of The Bible

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnmS_vULPxw

I've been watching the counter for hours, the replies keep going up but the counter does not.

Posted by: InTheKnow | August 23, 2008 11:35 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | August 24, 2008 12:31 AM | Report abuse

Wow Biden was a good choice, The Republicans are in trouble now. there is just too many Gaffs moments by McCain. They need a new Nominee without so much baggage and who is sharp., instead of slightly senile. I watched video of McCain talking about his failed first marrige at http://www.mccanes.com

Posted by: John | August 24, 2008 12:15 AM | Report abuse

McShame has two decent options for VP - Tom Ridge and Rudy Giuliani - but his party has backed itself into an ideological corner on abortion, so he can't have either one.

Lieberman is a good pick, if experience remains a Republican mantra. Who has more experience losing a VP race?

That leaves the GOP with a bag full of D-listers and tomato cans. Mitt Romney? Ted Kennedy made him look like a pussy - what do you think a real smart-ass like Biden will do to him in a debate? Bobby Jindal? Anyone who saw him fibbing his way through a mauling by Tim Kaine on MTP last week knows that he would be a disaster. Pawlenty? A grade-Z governor whose resume is appealing because there is nothing on it, rather than anything substantial.

Hey - so long as McCain is looking to corss party lines, he could do no worse than to pick Hillary. If one can believe the party-line spouted by the lunatic dead-enders here, she wouldn't accept unless McShame paid off her campaign debts first, but it's worth a shot.

I think Cheney would be a good choice, too. He has eight years experience babysitting Dubya - it would be easy to pick up in 2009 and babysit Dubya's ideological clone.

Posted by: bondjedi | August 23, 2008 11:59 PM | Report abuse


####

What idiot in the RNC
puts up a 'gaffe clock'
when their candidate
continually makes 'senior
moment' mistakes that
make Lil' Bush seem
smart??????

Let the McBush
Gaffe Clock begin!!!!!

###########


Posted by: McBush Speak | August 23, 2008 11:58 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: scrivener | August 23, 2008 11:56 PM | Report abuse

How about...NOUN....VERB....POW

Posted by: bobnsri | August 23, 2008 11:52 PM | Report abuse

Obama wants Biden as an attack dog. Remember how he defined Giulianni as someone whose sentences only contain "a noun, a verb, and 9-11" Obama wants Biden to come up with a similar line about McCain.

Posted by: Steve Charb | August 23, 2008 11:49 PM | Report abuse

Truth is, even given a lively debate, we must arrive at compromise.

Those of us in the center and a little left typically believe in some sense of public spirit - not just the untrammeled pursuit of wealth via private sector endeavors.

Since America is hardly a socialist state, and since Senators Obama and Biden support PRIVATE INSURANCE, provided to the poorest amongst us by way of subsidies and to the middle class at more reasonable rates as a result of a larger pool of insured customers, the end game offered by the Democratic Party would seem wiser when it comes to "the general welfare."

Further, given the FACT that President Bush's emergency room solution for poor care costs three times more - a burden that is shifted to those of us that are insured - a UNIVERSALLY AVAILABLE, PRIVATE INSURANCE approach would seem to make sense of all of us, ESPECIALLY THOSE OF US TIRED OF PAYING FOR THE MORE EXPENSIVE CARE PROVIDED TO THE POOR VIA EMERGENCY ROOMS.

IN DIPLOMACY, the United States CANNOT AFFORD to be "the policeman of the world." If you believe that, you'll be voting Obama.

Mind you, we Democrats MUST be willing to work WITH fair-minded, centrist Republicans - those that believe in FOREIGN POLICY REALISM and DOMESTIC POLICY UTILITARIANISM.

Taken together, the centrists (Democratic and Republican) and the traditional Democrats will COMPRISE A MAJORITY IN BOTH HOUSES . . .

BUT - and this is good news for my conservative friends - NOT A SUFFICIENT MAJORITY TO PUSH PURELY SOCIALIST POLICIES.

REMEMBER: When you hear neocons argue that Senator Obama advocates "socialized medicine," know that THEY ARE LYING.

Senator Obama advocates private insurance, accessible to all Americans . . .

IN ORDER TO LOWER THE COST OF HEALTH CARE FOR ALL OF US.

Hillary Clinton supported a mandatory system, BUT NOT A SINGLE PAYER GOVERNMENT SYSTEM.

NO AMERICAN POLITICIAN SUPPORTS THE CANADIAN OR BRITISH MODELS.

Neither do we middle class Americans.

FEW AMERICANS SUPPORT AN IMPERIALIST, ADVENTURIST, "POLICEMAN OF THE WORLD" FOREIGN POLICY.

John McCain does.

If we vote WITH OUR OWN INTERESTS AT HEART, we average Americans.

WILL VOTE OBAMA-BIDEN '08!

God Bless America!

Posted by: VitalCenter | August 23, 2008 11:35 PM | Report abuse

Obama Makes Fun Of The Bible

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnmS_vULPxw

I've been watching the counter for hours, the replies keep going up but the counter does not.

Posted by: InTheKnow | August 23, 2008 11:35 PM | Report abuse

Ronald Reagan ( the Great Communicator) wrote in his diary June 15, 1987 of Joe Biden ; "pure demagogue"
ISBN 978 -0- 06-0876005 Page 507 "The Reagan Diaries"

" a leader who makes use of popular prejudices and false claims and promises in order to gain power"
Merriam - Webster's

Posted by: rtfanning | August 23, 2008 11:32 PM | Report abuse

Hm. All this talk of Teddy Roosevelt, he does seem very similar to Joe Biden in personality. They were both accused of being too loud and not following the typical message.

You have to remember, though, that this was 100 years ago. Republicans like to tout Teddy and Lincoln, but the party has changed a lot since then. Teddy was an environmentalist and started the "good neighbor" policy. Wouldn't that just be considered liberal by today's standards?

And whatever happened to "walk softly and carry a big stick"? The irony is just ridiculous.

Posted by: Grueschenka | August 23, 2008 11:19 PM | Report abuse

AFTER EIGHT YEARS OF PROMOTING THE IDEA THAT FASCISM = PATRIOTISM . . .

THE AMERICAN PEOPLE HAVE FINALLY REALIZED THAT THOMAS JEFFERSON, JAMES MADISON, JOHN ADAMS AND ALL OUR FOUNDERS WERE CORRECT . . .

PATRIOTISM = LIVELY DISSENT . . .

Thank you, Barack Obama, for reminding us that PRESIDENTS ARE NOT KINGS.

RATHER . . .

They are OUR employees.

AND OUR GOVERNMENT IS ANSWERABLE TO . . .

WE THE PEOPLE.

Sure, there'll still be some fascists out there that say "We should never criticize our exalted leader."

Yet, take note, Dittoheads, President Bush himself, in front of Thomas Jefferson's home at Monticello, encouraged protesters to speak at a ceremony for new American citizens, prizing dissent in a manner quite refreshing for TRUE PATRIOTS.

So, not even President Bush supports the idea that we should squash dissent.

It is good that we disagree. It is good for our country that we debate.

AND EVERY AMERICAN CITIZEN THAT JOINS THIS DEBATE MUST, AS A MATTER OF CIVILITY, CALL HIS OR HER OPPONENT A PATRIOT.

I consider my opponents on the Republican side of the aisle to be "the loyal opposition."

I pray they accord us the same respect.

God Bless America!

Posted by: VitalCenter | August 23, 2008 11:10 PM | Report abuse

Listening to Sen. Biden's speech in Springfield today made me think of Lincoln. It's what the Obama organizers wanted people to think, and I did! They, I suppose, also wanted to have people compare these two 'compadres' with the great Lincoln. Fat chance! Biden's life is filled with moral failures and mediocre judgment. Plagiarizing while in Law School, supporting the war in Iraq (where was his 'famous' experience in foreign affairs?), disparaging different ethnicities except his being Irish (that seems to be fine with him; and Catholic Irish to boot!), supporting judge Thomas for the Supreme Court at the expense and humiliation of Anita Hill, attacking unnecessarily and meanspiritedly judge Alito (which didn't win him any friends among Italian Americans and fair-minded voters), while handling with kid gloves his fellow-Irishman judge Roberts (so much for his fairness and moral fibers). At the time I had visions of Biden suspending the proceedings so that the two of them could visit the nearest Pub; that's how obscene it was. And to think that Roberts and Alito couldn't have been any more alike in their professional and private lives! Perfect to a fault! His thirty-five years in the Senate simply make him a member of the long-standing inveterate Rhinoceros herd Obama was supposed to thin out according to his promises. With Biden as vice-president nothing changes in Obama's administration, and the latter's promise of a fresh new start stinks from the head like the proverbial Greek fish. Barazk Obama (or Barack "America" [?], as Biden called him in Springfield!) missed an opportunity to name some great young politicians like Webb and Warner without the heavy and negative baggage of this Washington insider. Biden is the very image of what's wrong with our politics. He even boasted that he would be honored to run with McCain. What a wonderful combination they would have made: the 'Keating Five Laureate' meets the 'Syracuse University Plagiarizer' who hates Princeton (for a good reason: Princeton would have expelled him!). Mr. Obama, you just lost my vote because you proved to me beyond any doubt that you are in bed with the worst fat cats in Washington DC; in fact you are in bed with them and comfortably so! Sayonara to you! Ralph Nader, where are you?

Posted by: Joe | August 23, 2008 11:10 PM | Report abuse

Poor John "POW" McCain.
Who will be his VP?
Lets ruminate on that:

Mitt:
67-per cent Negative Rating. Richer than the McCain (very bad)
Religious Right Hates Mormons

Crist
Terrible Debater
Religious Right Hates Gays (even married closeted gays)

Graham
Lightweight
Religious Right Hates Gays (even closeted gays)

Liberman
Terrible Debater
Religious Right Hates Jews and Liberals

Wacky Governor Jindahl
Conducted Exorcisms While at Brown University
In His College Thesis He Claimed a Cure for Cancer!

Lieberman
Terrible Debater
Religious Right Hates Jews and Liberals

Bush-Jeb
Political Poison

Pawlenty
Who?
Who?

Posted by: bobnsri | August 23, 2008 10:56 PM | Report abuse

A PUMAs definition of Obama being a deacent person:

Getting down on his knees and begging Hillary to take over for the good of the country.

A McCainiac's definiion of Obama being decent: staying in his place and taking whatever we throw at him, let us abuse him.

A PUMA and a McCaniac's definition of Obama being evil = fighting back.

A PUMA and McCainiac's wet dream: the late Obama.

A PUMA and McCainiac's nightmare: President Obama

The worst day in a PUMA and McCainiac's life: the day that Hawaii became part of the United States.

Second worst day: the day the Civil Rights Act passed.

Sorry.

Posted by: jaded | August 23, 2008 10:53 PM | Report abuse

McCain/Rice anyone?

Posted by: Hades | August 23, 2008 10:53 PM | Report abuse

Here's my suspicion - John McCain wishes he could pick Joe Biden, and that'll be apparent in the days to come. John McCain has such flexible positions on the issues, he's already looking at pro-choice VPs and democrat VPs... I don't see him being too concerned with his VP's positions as long as he likes them personally and they can help him win. I don't think we'll ever find out if the Clintons were contacted in any way to possibly join him, but I think if he thought that would help him win he would give it a shot.

For the record, I think McCain's a decent enough guy. But Bush seemed decent to some when he was first running, and I just can't take where everything is going for another 4 years.

Posted by: Grant | August 23, 2008 10:51 PM | Report abuse

throw the bums out


vote Obama Biden

don't let their "cousins in policy"

keep us on this course...

get someone who isn't a trust fund son of a military official

only now we have trust fund son of a military official who couldn't even just make it on his own...
he had to divorce his wife when she wasn't rich enough and young enough anymore for Ms Paris Hilton 1968.

Maybe KFed is available to be McCain's sec of the treasury...

he did say he liked people with his same values.

Don't know if they have the same values but they obviously view marriage the same way.

and neither of them has seen a mortgage payment or student loan application or...well any financial responsibility...ever.

Posted by: dl | August 23, 2008 10:50 PM | Report abuse

Did I mention how sweet it is to finally be completely rid of the Clinton's?

This is just awesome!!!!
Out with the old, in with the new.

Posted by: captainkona | August 23, 2008 10:49 PM | Report abuse

Don't like Joe Biden. Never have.
DLC usually means Loser with a capital L.
Biden now has a chance to make up for his past mistakes. The war, the Rave Act, Chertoff, the Real ID....

He did stand firm against Telecom Immunity so that may yield results in the near future.

I hope he has more spine as the head of the Senate than he had as a Senator. If he does, we may just get somewhere.

Obama/Biden '08 !

Posted by: captainkona | August 23, 2008 10:45 PM | Report abuse

I am so sick of John McCain's POW fairy tales.

Time to 'Swift Boat" all the lies about his POW days.

Posted by: bobnsri | August 23, 2008 10:43 PM | Report abuse

scrivener,

If "people don't vote for vice-president" then McCain choose David Duke for VP. He fits the chant of the 'pubs more accurately. Racism, corruption. DUKE FOR VP!!

Posted by: Bill | August 23, 2008 10:39 PM | Report abuse

"JOEBAMA" DOES NOT CHANGE THE DYNAMIC.

BARACK'S PICK ONLY UNDERSCORES HIS OWN WEAKNESSES.

TYPICAL REACTION: "SHOULD THIS TICKET BE THE OTHER WAY AROUND?"


• Obama to emerge as VP under Hillary or Al? The reason they buried the ticket debut on a sunny late August afternoon when few were watching?


Most Americans spent a beautiful summer's afternoon outside on Saturday, not watching two predictable stump speeches that reflected more desperation than inspiration.

And the mainstream media Obamaphiles give him credit for stagecraft? The Obama camp blew it. They missed the big media window (not a word in most morning papers) and they missed the chance to draw a huge live TV primetime audience.

What happened to their usually superb timing? Let's pose a theory: Team Obama is genuinely worried that Hillary will prevent him from being nominated on the first ballot, and that Barack will emerge from a boisterous floor battle as the VICE-presidential nominee under Hillary; or, if she shows the savvy to go "noble," she anoints Al Gore as the prez nominee.

So they delayed the announcement to abut the convention, thus avoiding the media scrutiny that a full-ticket whistle-stop tour would engender.

And now, if the ticket "changes," the party is spared the embarrassment of a meaningless multi-city rollout.

People don't vote for vice-president. Obama's selection of Biden may look to some like a cunning master stroke, but upon closer examination, it's a repudiation of Obama's entire rationale for seeking the presidency.

His pick isn't "safe." It's an S.O.S. As the AP's Ron Fournier correctly stated, the pick puts the lie to the entire "change" narrative. Obama's candidacy is revealed as less than genuine, something his disappointed core supporters learned when he flip-flopped and vacaillated on issues key to his legitimacy -- FISA/wiretapping, gun control, expansion of the death penalty, offshore drilling, etc. etc.

People don't vote for the vice-president. And they WON'T elect Barack Obama.

Contrary to what Chris Matthews thinks, this post is being written by a progressive who's consistently disappointed by the naivete and blind ignorance of the Dem leadership and their surrender to Obamaphilia, along with their starry-eyed minions in mainstream media.

The only option now: the superdelegates must reclaim the Democratic Party before the Obamanists weaken their clout.

Supers: reject this hostile takeover. Finesse the roll call so Hillary wins, but decides to cede her delegates to Gore as a noble unity move. Let Gore name Obama as VP -- the party's already succumbed to his blackmail. And let Biden become secretary of state, if he can affect a diplomatic tongue.

Hillary will go down in history as the noble warrior, and she can either await the next seat on the Supreme Court under a President Gore, or she can return to the Senate in triumph and capture the majority leader post.

Two super-egotists on the ticket and a Joe Biden pander to lunch-bucket Dems can't do it. The delegates must reject Obama as the presidential nominee. They must reverse the hostile takeover of the Democratic National Committee.

Stop thinking "JOEBAMA" can save this ticket. It cannot. Vote Hillary; it's the only way to salvage a chance of winning in the fall.

BUT WILL THE ELECTION EVEN MATTER? Not when government-supported "vigilante injustice" squads are "gang stalking" American citizens, making a mockery of the rule of law:
http://www.nowpublic.com/world/get-political-vic-livingston-opinion-expose-state-supported-vigilante-squads-doing-domestic-terrorism

Posted by: scrivener | August 23, 2008 10:38 PM | Report abuse

McCain has hid behind his veteran status for too long and now that's a trump card thats gone limp. People are tired of hearing about it. With Biden, the ticket is balanced. The republican's know they can't win with Romney and their only other choice is Pawlenty for a pro life ticket. Pawlenty is a social liberal. Romney is a Mormon who the evangelicals won't embrace. Obama-Biden win. Easily.

Posted by: Bill | August 23, 2008 10:35 PM | Report abuse

Great, great choice for VP. Biden is the ultimate political pit bull. He's the guy who will take the fight directly to the extremely vulnerable McCain campaign. McCain's success up until now is a facade resulting from Obama's unwillingness to call down the thunder. Now Zeus himself is the VP nominee.

Look to Biden to 1) put PA solidly in the Dem column, 2) turn OH and MI bright blue, and 3) start to knock down the ridiculous "maverick" narrative under which McCain has so far avoided serious scrutiny and media vetting.

I feel bad for decent Republicans like Hagel, Lugar, and Specter. Must be tough being the reasonable minority in the party of George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, John McCain, and Karl Rove. The Democrats now represent the party of Lincoln and TR.

Posted by: William J | August 23, 2008 10:34 PM | Report abuse

"JOEBAMA" DOES NOT CHANGE THE DYNAMIC.

BARACK'S PICK ONLY UNDERSCORES HIS OWN WEAKNESSES.

TYPICAL REACTION: "SHOULD THIS TICKET BE THE OTHER WAY AROUND?"


• Obama to emerge as VP under Hillary or Al? The reason they buried the ticket debut on a sunny late August afternoon when few were watching?


Most Americans spent a beautiful summer's afternoon outside on Saturday, not watching two predictable stump speeches that reflected more desperation than inspiration.

And the mainstream media Obamaphiles give him credit for stagecraft? The Obama camp blew it. They missed the big media window (not a word in most morning papers) and they missed the chance to draw a huge live TV primetime audience.

What happened to their usually superb timing? Let's pose a theory: Team Obama is genuinely worried that Hillary will prevent him from being nominated on the first ballot, and that Barack will emerge from a boisterous floor battle as the VICE-presidential nominee under Hillary; or, if she shows the savvy to go "noble," she anoints Al Gore as the prez nominee.

So they delayed the announcement to abut the convention, thus avoiding the media scrutiny that a full-ticket whistle-stop tour would engender.

And now, if the ticket "changes," the party is spared the embarrassment of a meaningless multi-city rollout.

People don't vote for vice-president. Obama's selection of Biden may look to some like a cunning master stroke, but upon closer examination, it's a repudiation of Obama's entire rationable for seeking the presidency.

His pick isn't "safe." It's an S.O.S. As the AP's Ron Fournier correctly stated, the pick puts the lie to the entire "change" narrative. Obama's candidacy is revealed as less than genuine, something his disappointed core supporters learned when he flip-flopped and vacaillated on issues key to his legitimacy -- FISA/wiretapping, gun control, expansion of the death penalty, offshore drilling, etc. etc.

People don't vote for the vice-president. And they WON'T elect Barack Obama.

Contrary to what Chris Matthews thinks, this post is being written by a progressive who's consistently disappointed by the naivete and blind ignorance of the Dem leadership and their surrender to Obamaphilia, along with their starry-eyed minions in mainstream media.

The only option now: the superdelegates must reclaim the Democratic Party before the Obamanists weaken their clout.

Supers: reject this hostile takeover. Finesse the roll call so Hillary wins, but decides to cede her delegates to Gore as a noble unity move. Let Gore name Obama as VP -- the party's already succumbed to his blackmail. And let Biden become secretary of state, if he can affect a diplomatic tongue.

Hillary will go down in history as the noble warrior, and she can either await the next seat on the Supreme Court under a President Gore, or she can return to the Senate in triumph and capture the majority leader post.

Two super-egotists on the ticket and a Joe Biden pander to lunch-bucket Dems can't do it. The delegates must reject Obama as the presidential nominee. They must reverse the hostile takeover of the Democratic National Committee.

Stop thinking "JOEBAMA" can save this ticket. It cannot. Vote Hillary; it's the only way to salvage a chance of winning in the fall.

BUT WILL THE ELECTION EVEN MATTER? Not when government-supported "vigilante injustice" squads are "gang stalking" American citizens, making a mockery of the rule of law:
http://www.nowpublic.com/world/get-political-vic-livingston-opinion-expose-state-supported-vigilante-squads-doing-domestic-terrorism

Posted by: scrivener | August 23, 2008 10:33 PM | Report abuse

Wow Biden was a good choice, The Republicans are in trouble now. there is just too many Gaffs moments by McCain. They need a new Nominee without so much baggage and who is sharp., instead of slightly senile. I watched video of McCain talking about his failed first marrige at http://www.mccanes.com

Posted by: John | August 23, 2008 10:32 PM | Report abuse

The republicans are in so much trouble they are tyring to make a movie about Obama's teen years. http://www.theobamaplan.com

Posted by: Nate | August 23, 2008 10:30 PM | Report abuse

I could not agree more. Enough Said.

Michael Nolan Raleigh NC

Posted by: Michael Nolan Raleigh NC | August 23, 2008 10:27 PM | Report abuse

Biden should fit the role of attack dog perfectly. He has the guts to go after McCain on virtually any topic - and the record to back it up.

http://www.political-buzz.com/

Posted by: matt | August 23, 2008 10:05 PM | Report abuse

What's with the sour grapes comments?

And I'm talking about the Obama supporters.

I think it's great that you all are so devoted to supporting Obama, but is it really necessary to tear down the other side in the process?

Saying something nice about your own side and then slamming the other (for some reason I have to yet to discover) is something 5 year olds don't even do.

Posted by: None of the Above 08
--------------------------------
You must deliberately be overlooking the crapola Hill's and McCain's people are saying in these blogs. I acknowledge most of them are racists and bigots, still, that does not excuse all the namecalling and degradation they spew against a good and decent man who truly wants better for our country. There is a lot of white trash around who THINK because they are white they are better than anyone else, Hispanic, African American, Latino, Asians, etc. Wouldn't you be surprised IF, when you reach the pearly gates, you find God is BLACK??? We really do not know do we?? Have any of you ever wondered why Chinese live in China, Japanese in Japan, Africans in Africa, the English in England, the French in France, etc?? Somewhere along the way, God decided to give each nation/race a country of their own? People's bone structure, skin, hair and eyes are in balance with where they are located in our world/planet. Before the whites began coming here to this country it was inhabited by Native Americans, they did not look anything like the folks that came from England; or should I say the people that came from England did not look anything like our Native Americans!! If you really want to be hardnosed about it, the ONLY TRUE AMERICANS ARE OUR NATIVE AMERICANS....NORTH AMERICA BELONGED TO THEM FIRST AND FOREMOST UNTIL WE STOLE THEIR LANDS!! America has become the "melting pot" of the world, yet we treat those that do not look like us (the white folks) are truely treated as if they are subordinate and less than the white folks. This is so prejudicial and bigotted it is a crying shame!! This is part of what shames America!!

Posted by: NinaK | August 23, 2008 10:02 PM | Report abuse

What explains a working-class person's decision to favor McCain over Obama? I just can't understand. McCain is of the ruling-class and he will protect ruling-class interests, not the interests of the everyman. Can someone explain to me how on earth, if not for racial prejudice, a working-class person can see fit to vote for McCain? Please share your reasoning.

Posted by: Hilary Smith | August 23, 2008 9:56 PM | Report abuse

sparksUSN
Those long nights at sea must be getting to you...or did you just get f--ked up your pooper by your shipmates.

Posted by: army | August 23, 2008 9:49 PM | Report abuse

Great choice of Biden.
Kick Mc10houses on his flacid old butt...

Posted by: Gobama | August 23, 2008 9:46 PM | Report abuse

Obama/Biden
AMERICAN SOCIALISM

Obama/Biden
AMERICAN SOCIALISM

Obama/Biden
AMERICAN SOCIALISM

Obama/Biden
AMERICAN SOCIALISM

Obama/Biden
AMERICAN SOCIALISM

Posted by: Rick F | August 23, 2008 7:27 PM

------------------------
Have you heard of haldol! You might want to consider it...or maybe you are coming off of your meds.

Posted by: hayden1 | August 23, 2008 9:44 PM | Report abuse

Barack Obama picking Joe Biden for his VP is great news for us conservative Republicans, because John McCain is now as good as elected president after Nov.4th. Had the Obama clown picked Hillary, we'd have had a fight on our hands. She would have probably brought a lot of states into play that Obama now can't get like Pa. and maybe even Ohio. During the D's primaries in Pa. for instance, Hillary wiped the floor with Obama in every area of the state exept in the black areas in and around Philly and a few areas where liberals rule--like in and around the colleges and universities. Outside those areas Hillary got a vote ratio of 8 to 1. The fact is that Barack Obama is not liked by these mostly white working class registered Democrat voters, and that won't change with a Obama and Biden ticket. Despite what the Democrats think, the Pa. voters are pretty smart. They'll remember the cheap shot Obama said about them re. "clinging to their guns and religion in time of trouble" remark when he was talking to his rich like-minded elite San Francisco clique, and they'll remember that Obama was a 20 year member and a big supporter of the racist white-hating and America--hating church Trinity UFC Church. They'll either stay home in droves or they'll vote for McCain. Good riddance to that racist white-hater and America-hater Barack Obama who only now is talking about racial healing when he needs the white vote. He didn't care about 'racial healing' when he was supporting white racial hatred in his racist church for 20 years.

Posted by: sparksUSN
---------------------
SparksUSN, I take it you are in the United States Navy?? I see you are no better than John McCain, who was ALSO in the Navy. You and McCain make for bad represenation for the United States Navy abnd the United States. Both of you are hateful, vindictive, and slanderers. What's is with YOUR namecalling of your FUTURE COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF? Hey Sparks, don't you keep up with the news?? It is Senator Obama who votes for the GI bills to extend your education benefits, it is Senator Obama who votes for better medical and triage care for our military members, etc. John McCain votes AGAINST BILLS BENEFITING YOU and the rest of our military. McCain did not show up for the last GI Bill. McCain does not care about our service men and women except to use as pawns in his wars. Once he uses you, he does not give a tinker's damn whether or not you get proper medical care or the benefits to which you should be entitled! McCain thought the latest GI bill was "TOO GENEROUS" for YOU and the rest of our military folks!! Wow, and YOU think McCain should be your commander-in-chief? You must be out of your mind!!

Posted by: NinaK | August 23, 2008 9:33 PM | Report abuse

Coming out Fighting is not the best side to Show America. When you were just introduced as the Vice Presidential running mate.

No One seems to have any honor, Respect or to serve in the positions in our Government with such. That is a terrible shame.

Obama has attacked the President of our country and the Government every time he speaks. It shows dishonor for the position of the President and The Country we love.

He Blames The President and the Government for everything wrong in America and around the world.

The President he might not agree with, but to point fingers and blame and encourage others to do the same is treasonous, in my eyes.

The Government Which he vows to change, Is a Democracy what our country is based on. To point fingers and blame it for all the wrong in peoples lives, the country and the world and encourage others to do is treasonous, in my eyes.

Agree or disagree and voice an opinion But to blame and condemn and is something else.

It is no different that that guy who GD America, probably worse When you are a US Senator. Someone people look up.

Please do not let him take away our Democracy.

God Bless America

God help the Government Senators, congressmen and all government officals to go back to serving their countries and not themselves.

Posted by: seah | August 23, 2008 9:32 PM | Report abuse

Think about our country's image if he's elected. We don't want any muslims half brothers....judging our President???? Think for your country's sake.
Dave

From the Fact Check Desk: What Did Obama's Half-Brother Say About Obama's Background?
June 18, 2008 12:39 PM

It was a sloppy paraphrase that emerged as false evidence.

Malik Obama, the older half brother of Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, gave a brief interview to Israeli Army Radio.

The Jerusalem Post listened to the interview, apparently, and produced a story saying "Malik Obama says his brother will be good president for the Jews. Barack Obama's half brother Malik said Thursday that if elected his brother will be a good president for the Jewish people, despite his Muslim background."

Posted by: David | August 23, 2008 9:29 PM | Report abuse

YES . . .

It is "necessary to tear down the other side."

Viciously and with the good heart of a committed political warrior.

Why?

Because TEAM McSHAME . . .

Is aggressively seeking . . .

-> Eight MORE YEARS OF BUSH
-> The destruction of the middle class
-> A new war in Iran
-> A fresh Cold War with Russia
-> The destruction of Social Security for you and me and our elders
-> The shipment of our jobs overseas
-> Tax breaks for his rich buddies with Big Oil and Wall Street
-> A "TAX THE POOR AND MIDDLE CLASS, PAY THE RICH" domestic policy

McSame would be funny were he not so . . .

DANGEROUS . . .

So, yes, we will attack.

YET, in fairness . . .

"We'll stop telling the truth about John McBush AS SOON AS HE STOPS LYING ABOUT US."

Posted by: VitalCenter | August 23, 2008 9:28 PM | Report abuse

Oh, so Biden is going to have "HIS say" is he? Who's he gonna plagiarize this time when he dose?

Posted by: ImJustSaying | August 23, 2008 9:24 PM | Report abuse

Lord, please help our country. We have two LAWYERS on one ticket running for the office of president and commander in chief. You, Lord, know how LAWYERS screw everything up and everybody, how selfish most of them are and how they just love to win regardless if they tell the truth or lie, and they do lie so very much. Our country cannot afford to have these men elected, so please, please help."

Yeah um... Has anyone pointed out that under this definition, Mohandas Gandhi, Thurgood Marshall, and Abraham Lincoln are all classified as selfish, corrupt liars? Also, you must surely think that oil executives such as Dick Cheney would do a much better job at ethics reform than Gandhi, right?
--------------
Looks like someone is very afraid of lawyers. Funny thing, this person is probably a Hilliary hard core fan!! This person says layers al all classifiedas selfish, corrupt, abd liars. Funny thing, a lot of people felt that way about Hilliary, not because she is a lawyer, but because of Hilliary herself. Oh, and Bill was a lawyer too---until he got disbarred for lying to the grand jury about cigars, an intern, and the Oval Office.

Posted by: NinaK | August 23, 2008 9:22 PM | Report abuse

I am so pleased with Barack Obama's pick of Joe Biden as his VP! These two are going to represent our party very well and they're going to be wonderful for the "little people" (which is 95% of this country!) of the U.S. of A!

www.whitenoiseinsanity.wordpress.com

Posted by: KayInMaine | August 23, 2008 9:18 PM | Report abuse

What's with the sour grapes comments?

And I'm talking about the Obama supporters.

I think it's great that you all are so devoted to supporting Obama, but is it really necessary to tear down the other side in the process?

Saying something nice about your own side and then slamming the other (for some reason I have to yet to discover) is something 5 year olds don't even do.

Posted by: None of the Above 08 | August 23, 2008 9:16 PM | Report abuse

Barack Obama picking Joe Biden for his VP is great news for us conservative Republicans, because John McCain is now as good as elected president after Nov.4th. Had the Obama clown picked Hillary, we'd have had a fight on our hands. She would have probably brought a lot of states into play that Obama now can't get like Pa. and maybe even Ohio. During the D's primaries in Pa. for instance, Hillary wiped the floor with Obama in every area of the state exept in the black areas in and around Philly and a few areas where liberals rule--like in and around the colleges and universities. Outside those areas Hillary got a vote ratio of 8 to 1. The fact is that Barack Obama is not liked by these mostly white working class registered Democrat voters, and that won't change with a Obama and Biden ticket. Despite what the Democrats think, the Pa. voters are pretty smart. They'll remember the cheap shot Obama said about them re. "clinging to their guns and religion in time of trouble" remark when he was talking to his rich like-minded elite San Francisco clique, and they'll remember that Obama was a 20 year member and a big supporter of the racist white-hating and America--hating church Trinity UFC Church. They'll either stay home in droves or they'll vote for McCain. Good riddance to that racist white-hater and America-hater Barack Obama who only now is talking about racial healing when he needs the white vote. He didn't care about 'racial healing' when he was supporting white racial hatred in his racist church for 20 years.

Posted by: sparksUSN | August 23, 2008 9:13 PM | Report abuse

How do the Republicans answer this pick? Choose Romney, and it will be framed as a "millionaire's ticket." Choose Pawlenty or Kantor, or any lesser known entity and they're certain to be eviscerated by Biden in the debates. Choose Lieberman or Ridge and offend the social conservatives. Choose Huckabee and scare the fiscal conservatives. All the Republicans can do is try to win a war of words with Biden. Not easy. There is nobody who McCain can pick who will unify the Republicans. Short of a major debacle, the next few weeks promise to be long ones for the RNC.

http://www.walkaboutjones.com

Posted by: Walkabout Jones | August 23, 2008 9:07 PM | Report abuse

It was abundantly evident by Obama's body language on stage that Biden wasn't his 1st choice and was only picked out of expedient desparation by party hacks. Poor Obama, sold his soul.

Posted by: John | August 23, 2008 9:05 PM | Report abuse

How do the Republicans answer this pick? Choose Romney, and it will be framed as a "millionaire's ticket." Choose Pawlenty or Kantor, or any lesser known entity and they're certain to be eviscerated by Biden in the debates. Choose Lieberman or Ridge and offend the social conservatives. Choose Huckabee and scare the fiscal conservatives. All the Republicans can do is try to win a war of words with Biden. Not easy. There is nobody who McCain can pick who will unify the Republicans. Short of a major debacle, the next few weeks promise to be long ones for the RNC.

www.walkaboutjones.com

Posted by: Walkabout Jones | August 23, 2008 9:04 PM | Report abuse

The republicans are in so much trouble they are tyring to make a movie about Obama's teen years. http://www.theobamaplan.com

Posted by: Peter | August 23, 2008 9:03 PM | Report abuse


I guess McCain does have alot in common with Bush, it seems he might have an old DUI.
http://www.mccanes.com/duihelpguide.html

Posted by: Nate | August 23, 2008 9:02 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2008 8:49 PM | Report abuse

Insane Mccain is the name he has been know by since he go to the senate. He is the most hated member of the senate. Members of his own party hate him.

----------
I almost forgot my own little slogan.

"You would have to be insane to vote for McCain"© - FSB

Posted by: FSB | August 23, 2008 8:21 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2008 8:48 PM | Report abuse

For those who have questioned Obama's overall ability to make solid, cool, rational judgments, his decision to choose Joe Biden ought to make it eminently clear that he is perfectly capable of making thoughtful, composed, responsible decisions.

Biden is widely respected on both sides of the Senate aisle. As the Chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and an active minority member of that committee before that, he brings to the ticket strong foreign policy experience. And there is no doubt in my mind that he knows the full complexities of the Shiite, Sunni,Kurd, Al Qaeda, and Awakening group contingencies in this war.

His NYT editorial outlining his plan to settle some of the other complexities, including his position on whether or not to use the federalist or centralized- government model, in addition to the appropriation of oil revenues to the major groups (the Sunni, the Shiites, the Kurds) certainly puts him ahead of the foreign relations game.

And he will not make the mistake, as McCain did,about the geography of Iraq. Unlike McCain, who continued to make the error in saying that Iran was aiding the Al Qaeda, Biden knows the subtleties of the many Iraqi factions and would never be guilty of such ethnocentric ignorance (Al Qaeda is a known Sunni insurgency and terrorist group; Iran is a Shiite country. Apparently, McCain still doesn't know that the Shiite-Sunni civil war has been going on for a very long time).

Would McCain be able to make a rational and informed decision about what to recommend to Maliki's government in terms of the Sunni Awakening Group, a group which is subsidized with U.S. funds? If he doesn't know that Al Qaeda is a Sunni group, I doubt that he will understand that the Sunni Awakening group has taken a risk in fighting against its own sect, knowing, at the same time, that they themselves are not going to be trusted by the Shiite-leaning Maliki government.

Mr. McCain may not even know that there are three factions--the Shiites, the Kurds, and the Sunni--all vying for some kind of political, geographic, and economic autonomy. He may even have to be given a quick lesson, like George Bush, who did not know the difference between these three groups before he chose to invade the country.

If McCain makes these kinds of basic lapses of knowledge about Iraq, can Americans really trust him to have a firm grasp of other global trouble spots?

Joe Biden, on the other hand, has always done his homework on foreign policy and is well aware of the nuances in this war.

Looking at Biden's voting record, it is clear that he will not satisfy everybody in the Democratic Party; however, his publicly proclaimed desire to internationalize the participation in, and debate on the Iraq war represents a fundamental difference between his more international approach and this rabid group of go-it-alone conservative ideologues in the Bush-Cheney government.

Biden also was instrumental in authorizing the landmark Violence Against Women Act, a $10,000-a-year tax deduction for higher ed costs, and the Kids 2000 legislation that approved federal funds for low-income areas to cover the cost of computers, access to the Internet, and teachers.

I have not always agreed with Biden in his support of the Iraq War, but he is far more knowledgeable about what's at stake in this war than too many on the other side of the aisle. And his voting record on national issues is a clear indication that he is on the side of labor, the middle class and the disenfranchised in this country.

Posted by: John T. Marohn | August 23, 2008 8:48 PM | Report abuse

The right is very scared right now. That's why you're seeing them lash out the way they are. I believe the RNC didn't want him to put forth an exclusive pro life ticket. The female contingent of the right have a huge percentage of pro choice voters who they'll lose on a pro life ticket. This is the tipping point and it is tipping toward the left very quickly.

Posted by: McCain's Done | August 23, 2008 8:38 PM | Report abuse

Most Americans voters are so distracted with looking right, looking left--they don't even notice the puppeteer in the middle manipulating the strings on BOTH sides. P.T. Barnum was so right.

Posted by: EyesOpen | August 23, 2008 8:37 PM | Report abuse

Matt Damon has just Channeled both Ronald Reagan and Teddy Roosevelt. Both support Obama/Biden. They are Obamcans! Don't believe me call Matt's Friend Ben Affleck!

Go Obama/Biden!

Posted by: Eagle nas gadooshu | August 23, 2008 8:37 PM | Report abuse

Hey Rick F: What's wrong with AMERICAN SOCIALISM? We already have socialism in the form of huge tax-payer funded government contracts to private corporations. If tax-payer money is going to be spent, what is so wrong with it being spent on the society and the people of the society? Why is it better spent on huge corporate contracts? Please share your reasoning on this. We already have socialism, only it doesn't benefit the people. The money comes from the society and doesn't benefit the society. You think that's a good system? You sound like a fool.

Posted by: Hilary Smith | August 23, 2008 8:35 PM | Report abuse

U2 - Beautiful Day
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omFdpnSu57U

Vote Obama/Biden '08

Posted by: Cooday | August 23, 2008 8:34 PM | Report abuse

"Lord, please help our country. We have two LAWYERS on one ticket running for the office of president and commander in chief. You, Lord, know how LAWYERS screw everything up and everybody, how selfish most of them are and how they just love to win regardless if they tell the truth or lie, and they do lie so very much. Our country cannot afford to have these men elected, so please, please help."

Yeah um... Has anyone pointed out that under this definition, Mohandas Gandhi, Thurgood Marshall, and Abraham Lincoln are all classified as selfish, corrupt liars? Also, you must surely think that oil executives such as Dick Cheney would do a much better job at ethics reform than Gandhi, right?

Posted by: jmd | August 23, 2008 8:34 PM | Report abuse

Too bad really. It should be Biden-Obama -- for many valid reasons. I felt like I got stabbed in the heart when Obama buckled to all the cowards who insist on unfettered ownership of guns and the republican military industrialist fascist's insistence on a 'time horizon' for Iraq withdrawal rather than a concrete date.

Anyway, I'll probably vote for McCain, since I believe the USA needs at least another 4 years of obscenely idiotic leadership to truly learn any sort of lesson.

The fact that anyone would ever vote republican again after the reign of 'George The Boy King' is mind-boggling, so it means that there must still be many profoundly ignorant, trash-inspired throwbacks out there who have no idea -- not even a clue -- of the damage already done to this country -- or even what our revolution and independence from similar fascists in 1776 was all about.

Posted by: Ren | August 23, 2008 8:34 PM | Report abuse

I wonder if Biden has any skeletons? Some of McCains will start emerging I guess McCain does have alot in common with Bush, it seems he might have an old DUI.
http://www.mccanes.com/duihelpguide.html

Posted by: Nate | August 23, 2008 8:30 PM | Report abuse

Well, I have to admit - after bashing the Biden choice all day, I can see the logic in it.

I'm still voting for Barr, though.

Posted by: Lojiko | August 23, 2008 8:28 PM | Report abuse

Mille

After the 8 years of Cheney having his hand up little howdy doody's behind, you say:

"The President and Commander In Chief of the United States of America should be capable and experienced in dealing with crisis, both domestic and especially foreign, and should not rely on the Vice President." ???

Between the incredible handling of the aftermath of Katrina (that would be domestic standard?) and the great money pit of Iraq that benefits Halliburton (is there another foreign example?), all I've got to do is agree with you...

Yes, the President SHOULD be that capable and experienced and should not rely on the Vice...

Nuf said indeed...

Posted by: c earl jr | August 23, 2008 8:26 PM | Report abuse

Joe Biden is about to set the bar for the rest of the Obama surrogates. Once he starts unleashing on team Bush/McCain, the others will follow. It's going to be so, so sweet.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2008 8:24 PM | Report abuse

Biden wouldnt of been my pick, But it doesnt matter. The GOP cant win, McCain couldnt manage the local Mcdonalds. The RNC wants him for his puppet abilitys., Oh yeah Mitt Romney is a puppet too. I was a republican until my party got hijacked bought and paid for by the RNC. I am an independant now. I liked Huckabee because he seem to care about the working class, and fixing the economy with real issues. But I dobt I will vote for McCain. I will vote for Obama or Barr. McCain is too old, he will just be a puppet. No more puppets. We need a president that actually will lead by his convictions. McCain changed on every position, just so the RNC would prop him up. http://www.hotpres.com

Posted by: Kerry | August 23, 2008 8:24 PM | Report abuse

It's a beautiful day. That's all I have to say. Biden's gonna say the rest...

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2008 8:22 PM | Report abuse

Obiden 08
Wasn't sure just how much of a rascal Obama is, now it's clear, he's a 100%er.

From Rev. Wright, to Mr. Ayers, to Biden, a pattern has emerged.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2008 8:22 PM | Report abuse

Wow Biden was a good choice, The Republicans are in trouble now. there is just too many Gaffs moments by McCain. They need a new Nominee without so much baggage and who is sharp., instead of slightly senile. I watched video of McCain talking about his failed first marrige at http://www.mccanes.com

Posted by: Peter | August 23, 2008 8:22 PM | Report abuse

Joe Biden (I call him Biting Biden) is the most intelligent senator we have ever had in Washington. Obama demonstrated once again that he is more courageous and focused than ever. As an aging woman, I am saddened that my peer group does not see the bigger picture here and what is truly at stake. It is abhorrent that no female has risen yet to presidential standing, but, we can not have sour grapes now when civil rights and our youth are at stake. Dick, Satan loves him dearly, Cheney is plotting more cover ups and international chaos...time is short.

Posted by: Truth & Justice | August 23, 2008 8:21 PM | Report abuse

I almost forgot my own little slogan.

"You would have to be insane to vote for McCain"© - FSB

Posted by: FSB | August 23, 2008 8:21 PM | Report abuse

Well if Biden is like Teddy Roosevelt then Obama is like Ronald Reagan. Obama has a positive message like Reagan.

Go Obama/Biden!

Posted by: Charlie | August 23, 2008 8:20 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Gobama "Hilarious how the fear mongers don't actually have anything meaningful to say."

You mean the global whining Democrats in Congress, right?

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2008 8:20 PM | Report abuse

The republicans are in so much trouble they are tyring to make a movie about Obama's teen years. http://www.theobamaplan.com

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2008 8:19 PM | Report abuse

Alan Greenspan claimed that Bill Clinton was the best Republican President he'd ever worked with. Why, because he balanced the budget and the economy blossomed. Reagan and Bush have both put our country far into debt. Now, we need a good, solid, Democratic President to put things right again. Obama and Biden will answer that need. They face the McSame McSmear machine, but this time the the American voters are getting tired to their smear and fear tactics.

Posted by: Saxxon Domela | August 23, 2008 8:17 PM | Report abuse

While I did vote for Ron Paul in the primaries, I believe Biden is a good choice.

As for all this talk of socialism; one of the greatest examples of socialism has occured under Bush. Ever hear of Bear Stearns? Privitized profits and socialized losses. It doesn't get much more "in your face" than that. You just have to pay attention and read from time to time.

"It is enough that the people know there was an election. The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything.", Joseph Stalin

Good luck Barack/Biden

Down with the IRS and the Federal Reserve

Posted by: FSB | August 23, 2008 8:17 PM | Report abuse

I just have to respond to the Reagan quote from rtfanning where Reagan wrote Sen. Joe Biden as a " pure demagogue"

definition; a leader who makes use of popular prejudices and false claims and promises in order to gain power

This is the same Reagan who said we shouldn't increase fuel efficiency standards because "trees cause more air pollution than cars", that the US doesn't negotiate with terrorists at the same time he was negotiating with terrorists, and "All the waste in a year from a nuclear power plant can be stored under a desk. " ...and to follow up that last one with a note to McCain-Nuclear power has never been cost effective in this country BEFORE we had to provide security against possible terrorist attacks. The only way to generate more nuclear power is for the government to heavily subsidize it. It is actually cheaper to subsidize homeowners to install their own solar panels than to generate nuclear energy. Too bad because as a scientist I like the potential of nuclear power generation, but it just doesn't make economic sense.

Posted by: amccoy | August 23, 2008 8:16 PM | Report abuse

Hilarious how the fear mongers don't actually have anything meaningful to say.

Posted by: Gobama | August 23, 2008 8:15 PM | Report abuse

Yes, In Love With Truth prays to god that lawyers not be elected President.

Next up, tearing down the Lincoln Memorial because, gasp, Lincoln was a lawyer (and a founder of the Republican Party).

Posted by: Patriot Games | August 23, 2008 8:15 PM | Report abuse

Biden's mean-spirited personality makes him unelectable, I didn't expect Obama to snap to that...too late now. I guess the old guy jokes are off limits now. BHO's not so bright after all.

Posted by: Superpower | August 23, 2008 8:14 PM | Report abuse

The right is desperate. In the next few weeks their negative approach will be ugly, but ultimately, won't work. The American people are tired of being lied to and they're wise to the 'pubs tricks. No matter who McCain picks he can't win. His prolife ticket means choosing Romney. They both have supported abortion in the past and the Christian right hates the idea of a moron in one of the highest offices.

Posted by: Bill | August 23, 2008 8:12 PM | Report abuse

Apart from all the political play, the fact that Joe Biden basically disses his "friend" tells a lot about his character.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2008 8:11 PM | Report abuse

Lord, please help our country. We have two LAWYERS on one ticket running for the office of president and commander in chief. You, Lord, know how LAWYERS screw everything up and everybody, how selfish most of them are and how they just love to win regardless if they tell the truth or lie, and they do lie so very much. Our country cannot afford to have these men elected, so please, please help.

Posted by: Inlovewithtruth | August 23, 2008 8:10 PM | Report abuse

Over the last half century our national political system has grown so distorted that it’s become nearly impossible for the people we’d most want to be President, to make it through either Party's nominating process. Obama’s unprecedented path to the nomination, plus his unique background and worldview mean he will be very different from any President of the last several decades. I think something very different is necessary (that’s my take on the ‘Change’ argument).

Two years ago, I first favored Bill Richardson based on his resume, while open to several others (including Biden, Clinton, and McCain). Richardson unfortunately disqualified himself by claiming to be able to foresee the future (his pledge to remove all troops within six months—I generally view any absolute "pledge" that way).

My first choice then changed to be Joe Biden, and most favorable 2008 ticket Biden/Obama. I’ve been willing to let McCain convince me and I’m very disappointed that he hasn’t even tried. His campaign’s switch to a complete attack-only mode (and especially, the lack of substance in those attacks) was what finalized my Obama vote. With today’s news, I’m glad to get my ticket, if only in reverse!

It won’t, however, be a disaster for America if either Obama or McCain wins (partly because, despite the best efforts of VP Cheney, the actual power of the Presidency is more limited than most people realize).

— I believe John McCain has a pretty good gut instinct, meaning some of the wingers posting here might be very surprised by his actions in office (on immigration; the environment (including carbon offsets); Guantanamo, torture and civil liberties; and especially by how well he might be able to work with what is going to be an overwhelmingly Democratic Congress). I favor his position on free trade over Obama’s. I think I very well might have voted for the John McCain of 2000 and if he’s elected, I have some hope that’s what we’ll get.

— On the other hand, I settled on Barack Obama because I view him as having a far higher potential of real greatness than anyone else in the race (albeit with a somewhat higher risk of Carteresque failure). His ability to answer in other than sound bites is what first started me paying attention and he’s demonstrated a rational pragmatism, thoughtful temperament, innate intelligence, and a consistent and firm moral core (only the last shared by McCain).

But don’t be satisfied with what you're told...please make up your mind based on YOUR OWN understanding of the ability, intelligence, knowledge, views, positions, temperament, judgment, and moral strength of your favored candidate; not on someone else's distortions of that candidate.

Posted by: purplemartin | August 23, 2008 8:10 PM | Report abuse

The Obama/Biden 08' ticket will hand McCain his butt. McCain has no leg to stand on when it comes to the plight of working class Americans be that blacks, whites, Latino's etc. A man who owns 10 homes cannot possibly empathize with average Americans.

Posted by: Paulin | August 23, 2008 8:08 PM | Report abuse

A few weeks ago Obama stated how he would redecorate the Lincoln Bedroom. Now I know why: If elected,he and Michelle will sleep in it and the Bidens will have the presidential bedroom with that phone that will probably ring at 3 a.m. Obama is not capable of handling a crisis. He's good at saying he will tax, tax, tax.

The President and Commander In Chief of the United States of America should be capable and experienced in dealing with crisis, both domestic and especially foreign, and should not rely on the Vice President. nuf said.

Posted by: Millie | August 23, 2008 8:05 PM | Report abuse

Why are the trolls posting under different aliases? Lol...that pretty lame.

Posted by: Eddie | August 23, 2008 8:05 PM | Report abuse

"Hurray for Joe "Rough Ridin" Biden, a true Democrat in the Teddy Roosevelt tradition."
Posted by: aurum79 | August 23, 2008 7:16 PM

McCain has been using Teddy Roosevelt as his inspiration this election year according to some articles in the media.

I would agree Joe would have Teddy's energy.

Teddy looked to move the Republican Party into the Progressive train tracks. After thoughtful consideration of your comment aurum79 Teddy would be a man of his times and if Teddy were by some miracle to be standing here with us today he would not only make The Drudge Report but seriously considered the Obama/Biden Ticket.

Posted by: Cooday | August 23, 2008 8:05 PM | Report abuse

Finally...two brilliant leaders who started from NOTHING and made it on their own. The AMERICAN DREAM personified.

And everything the corrupt, Mega-Rich worshipping Republicans hate.

Obama and Biden are going to make America great again.

Posted by: wilder5121 | August 23, 2008 8:03 PM | Report abuse

How should we choose? How should we judge? All of us humans on this planet are a unique blend of
predator to..................... prey to.........................
host to.........................
parasite...............Go figure!!

Posted by: EJLima | August 23, 2008 7:58 PM | Report abuse

American Socialism is when the US Treasury exchanges $500 BILLION in US Treasury Bonds for the same "face value" amount of WORTHLESS collateralized mortgage bonds so Wall Street investment banks won't have to take the losses.

Socialise the LOSSES but keep the profits - that's how we do it. I win, I'm rich! I lose, you're poor! YEAH! GO USA!

Posted by: Will Flood | August 23, 2008 7:57 PM | Report abuse

And I am delighted that Evan Bayh was NOT chosen --- most boring governor this state has ever had.

Posted by: Indiana Pearl | August 23, 2008 7:53 PM | Report abuse

OBAMA/BIDEN
"Chains You Can Be Bound In"

OBAMA/BIDEN
"Chains You Can Be Bound In"

OBAMA/BIDEN
"Chains You Can Be Bound In"

Posted by: John | August 23, 2008 7:52 PM | Report abuse

Democrats: The party of people who want the government to steal stuff from their neighbors.

Stop Socialism!

Posted by: JB | August 23, 2008 7:51 PM | Report abuse

Great pick. They just won the election!

Posted by: ct | August 23, 2008 7:51 PM | Report abuse

What is this "Socialist" nonsense? It sounds like ancient history --- "I Led Three Lives" and Herbert A. Filbrick. Get with the program! This is the 21st century! The wing nuts on the right need to listen to something besides Rush and Fox. They are sooooo backwards.

Posted by: Indiana Pearl | August 23, 2008 7:51 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: rtfanning | August 23, 2008 7:26 PM
-------

Ronald Reagan in his diary June 15, 1987 observed Sen. Joe Biden as;
a " pure demagogue"

-----------

Oh yes, Ronald Reagan, such a deep thinker . . . we should all revisit his words on a regular basis . . . . I put him right up there with Voltaire, Jefferson . . . .

Posted by: Moving to Canada if McCain Wins | August 23, 2008 7:50 PM | Report abuse

It's amazing how many people seem to know nothing about politics. Biden balances the ticket perfectly. The republicans are going crazy. McCain has promised a pro life ticket. It was down to Pawlenty or Romney. He'll choose Romney, that much is clear. The problem is that he HATES Romney. Unless he picks a TOTAL unknown, he has no choice. McCain was quick to get the footage of Biden dissing Obama, but just wait until the ads showing Romney dissing McCain come out, which there are plenty. I can't wait.

Posted by: Bill | August 23, 2008 7:48 PM | Report abuse

The "One House, One Spouse" ticket.

Finally, some real Family Values instead of empty rhetoric....

Posted by: Lola | August 23, 2008 7:46 PM | Report abuse

The intellect illustrated here is phenomenal. Teddy Roosevelt was a Republican you numb nuts.

But Teddy was a Republican and he did a good job, understandable mistake

Posted by: Doug in Fla | August 23, 2008 7:46 PM | Report abuse

Amazing that Republicans think they can use Primary rhetoric to badmouth Obama's choice is really stupid. Now I am just waiting for some stupid surrogate to mouth off about Obama's "plagerized" speach" because I have a newspaper that absolutely stated in the beinning of the Biden speach that he attributed the things he quated to its author. Then there are his remarks about Romney during the Primary. Of course, then we have McCain's Keating 5 record, his having lived in a state that has a long history of segregation changed late in the 20th century only as the result fo Brown vs Board of Education. If McCain choses Pawlenty, he might grab some Evangelicals but his complaint about Obama then would be mute becaus ePawlenty is so young. Poor McCain is betweena a rock and a hard place.

Posted by: Mari | August 23, 2008 7:44 PM | Report abuse

"Hurray for Joe "Rough Ridin" Biden, a true Democrat in the Teddy Roosevelt tradition."
Posted by: aurum79 | August 23, 2008 7:16 PM

Um...aurum you may want to get your history straight before you start lauding someone. Theodore Roosevelt was a Republican/Progressive, *not* a Democrat. Perhaps you have confused him with FDR?

I seem to recall another presidential candidate who selected a VP who could play both attack dog and bring some glimmer of international expertise to his campaign. What was his name again? Oh, yeah: Bush!

Posted by: chuckles | August 23, 2008 7:42 PM | Report abuse

Change we can believe in!!! Then you pick a typical Washington insider as your running mate.No different than any past political pair.

Posted by: Ernie | August 23, 2008 7:39 PM | Report abuse

I'd try to make a reasonable response to this nonsense, but I'm busy counting how many homes I own...

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2008 7:38 PM | Report abuse

Chris,

So, what did you think of the O'Hare Berghoff's?

Myself, I find it acceptable when stuck in O'Hare, but am nostalgic for the old Adams St. Berghoff's, which is sadly now attempting a synthesis of nouvelle cuisine and traditional German fare. Not that it isn't a great restaurant, just not what it once was, a Chicago icon.

Mmmm, schnitzel. Now I'm nostalgic *and* hungry...

Posted by: Fred | August 23, 2008 7:37 PM | Report abuse

Good pick! Like Ronald Regan who had no foreign policy experience.
Obama is building an experienced team.

Posted by: RightonObama | August 23, 2008 7:37 PM | Report abuse

Bush McCain
More of the same.

Vote for McCain?
You must be insane.

Posted by: Morton Redner | August 23, 2008 7:37 PM | Report abuse

The intellect illustrated here is phenomenal. Teddy Roosevelt was a Republican you numb nuts.

Posted by: Bobcat | August 23, 2008 7:37 PM | Report abuse

Sounds like an apocalyptic vision of hell. An infernal nightmare that must be avoided. A doomsday roll call.


Cheney, Gonzalez, Libby, Rumsfeld...we've
been through the apocalypse. It's time to move forward. Obama/Biden '08

Posted by: Doug in Fla | August 23, 2008 7:36 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: KYJurisDoctor | August 23, 2008 7:36 PM | Report abuse

I find it interesting that everyone is excited about Obama choosing his complete opposite. I think that Biden is about as uninteresting as it gets, definitely not what is needed now that we must progress as a country or fail. Biden brings nothing but liability and sad proof to me that Obama isn't as different, daring, and change oriented as I had hoped.

Posted by: Derrick | August 23, 2008 7:32 PM | Report abuse

rtfanning- It took the Swift Boater this long to tell you what to say? The McCain campaign and the Camber Of Commerce swine you represent must be really worried. We're going to tear you ruthless parasites apart. And, when we do, look for the equal time rule to be re-introduced. We intend to end your slander and terrorist attacks. You and your ilk are the American version of the Taliban - treasonous jerks, pretend patriots, ruthless liars and thieves. We're taking this country back. If you do not intend to serve this country decently, with honor and dignity, there is no place in it for you.

Posted by: Observer | August 23, 2008 7:32 PM | Report abuse

Change I don't believe in anymore...

Posted by: Damian Rumchapel | August 23, 2008 7:32 PM | Report abuse

I thought Biden as a really effective democrat. After today, he is just another
phoney.

Posted by: jerry Walkler | August 23, 2008 7:30 PM | Report abuse

Bush McCain Bush McCain
Bush McCain Bush McCain

Same Old Same Old
Same Old Same Old

Vote for McCain?
You must be insane.

Posted by: Morton Redner | August 23, 2008 7:29 PM | Report abuse

Lost the hate Democrats. Obama supporters need to stop attacking Hillary and her supporters. Having to convince them to not vote McCain is your OWN fault. Hillary supporters on the other hand need to look past the rhetoric and realize this a race as was the primary and anyone running will do what they need to to win, they ALL do it. Hillary will always remain 'our girl' but for this moment it is Obama's and now Joe Biden's show. Help them out and let's put a Democrat back in the White House so that America can proper and grow once again. Be a dedicated Democrat and a patriotic American, vote the Republicans out! Listen to Obama speak, listen to Biden speak, then be honest about who you think would make the better President, Obama or McCain? You will regret your vote if you waste it on McCain, don't be stupid. It's obvious, McCain is NOT what America needs, he is a liar and will be a continuation of Bush, no doubt.

As a staunch Hillary supporter, with Obama's choice of Joe Biden, I am fully now behind the Obama/Biden ticket.

Lose the hate, let's get it right this time, we don't need another destructive Republican in the White House.

Posted by: Democrats 08 | August 23, 2008 7:27 PM | Report abuse

What an incredibly good pick for Obama,and America, Biden the equivalent of the junk yard dog will rip McSame into little pieces and spit him out. And! he's intelligent too.


Despite comments made by Biden in the past Obama has enough savvy and thoughtfulness to realize the Biden thinks the same way he does, has the same values as he does, and is a deep well of experience he can draw on.

This may be the best ticket America has ever seen, and I'm sure Biden as Vice-President will be very visible and vocal alongside Obama.

God! two astute gentlemen for the price of one, this bodes so well for the future, Obama has constantly pounded the populace with "Yes we Can" and now they will.

Astounding!

Posted by: Larry the cable guy | August 23, 2008 7:27 PM | Report abuse

Obama/Biden
AMERICAN SOCIALISM

Obama/Biden
AMERICAN SOCIALISM

Obama/Biden
AMERICAN SOCIALISM

Obama/Biden
AMERICAN SOCIALISM

Obama/Biden
AMERICAN SOCIALISM

Posted by: Rick F | August 23, 2008 7:27 PM | Report abuse

Where is the John McCain who was a fearless leader on immigration?

Where is the John McCain who criticized the president's wartime tax cuts?

Where is the John McCain who condemned the intolerance of the religious right?

Where is the John McCain who slammed the Swift Boat authors?

Something drastic has happened to the once free-thinking John McCain most of America knew and loved.

He's become Candidate McCain who definitely has sold out to the extremists in his party.

Go home John! Oh yeah, you won't know which of the eight to go to.

He is a shell, an empty suit if you will of his former self. Yes, it is time for a change! Turn him out!

Posted by: Florenzo | August 23, 2008 7:27 PM | Report abuse


I love Joe Biden. He was my pick for President long before Obama. Finally, we'll have someone in there unafraid to trade barbs with the GOP. And, oh...I can't wait until the GOP'ers start bringing up the subject of "gaffes". Shall we proceed to roll tape and compare Biden with, say...McCain? Or BUSH?

Posted by: RobinL | August 23, 2008 7:26 PM | Report abuse

Ronald Reagan in his diary June 15, 1987 observed Sen. Joe Biden as;
a " pure demagogue"

definition; a leader who makes use of popular prejudices and false claims and promises in order to gain power

Posted by: rtfanning | August 23, 2008 7:26 PM | Report abuse

Biden? Really? Poor choice - from a campaign that has made few mistakes.

Posted by: DAS | August 23, 2008 7:25 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: dl . . . "I actually see a better 2009 than the last decade...

Obama, Biden, Gore, (Hillary) Clinton, Hagel, Specter, Lugar, Kerry, Powell, Gates, Dodd,

the A team."
===================

Sounds like a doomsday roll call, a nightmarish apocalyptic scenario. I can hear the jack boots on the cobblestone already. Political correctness gone crazy into fascism.

Posted by: John | August 23, 2008 7:22 PM | Report abuse

Obama just found his mo-Joe,

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2008 7:22 PM | Report abuse

I see a lot of parallel between Kennedy's pick of Johnson and Obama picking Biden. Johnson was a master of capital hill and gave Kennedy the inside wheeling and dealing he himself lacked. Johnson didn't like the Kennedys but he figured he could position himself for 1968. As part of the deal he (well, the office of the vice president) got control of NASA, Johnson's special project.

Posted by: Fremont, California | August 23, 2008 7:19 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: dl. . . "I actually see a better 2009 than the last decade...
Obama, Biden, Gore, (Hillary) Clinton, Hagel, Specter, Lugar, Kerry, Powell, Gates, Dodd,

the A team."
================

Sounds like an apocalyptic vision of hell. An infernal nightmare that must be avoided. A doomsday roll call.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2008 7:19 PM | Report abuse

Biden knows where the bodies are buried. When him and Obama get through with Mccain they will rip what is left of his little arms off his body and beat him silly with them. He will wish for the good ole days as a POW. Obama said the other day "John Mccain doesn't know what he is dealing with" I think Obama knows something we don't know yet.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2008 7:17 PM | Report abuse

Hurray for Joe "Rough Ridin" Biden, a true Democrat in the Teddy Roosevelt tradition. Now the Dems can give it to the Republicans from their own Vice Presidential "Bully Pulpit". Go get 'um Joe!

Posted by: aurum79 | August 23, 2008 7:16 PM | Report abuse

McCain is not the man he used to be (or, perhaps we never knew him). He has used his "experience(s)" to savage Obama. Now, he will have to deal with someone who's "been there, done that". Should be interesting.

Posted by: bob | August 23, 2008 7:15 PM | Report abuse

JB does not shy away from a fight and that was apparent today. If JB wraps GWB around McC how can McC lose that albatross?

Posted by: MarkInAustin | August 23, 2008 7:09 PM | Report abuse

Seen any Obama 'Cup of Joes' in any IHOP across America? No? Neither have I.

Posted by: JC | August 23, 2008 7:07 PM | Report abuse

I actually see a better 2009 than the last decade...

for the first time in a long time.

Obama, Biden, Gore, (Hillary) Clinton, Hagel, Specter, Lugar, Kerry, Powell, Gates, Dodd,

the A team.

Posted by: dl | August 23, 2008 7:04 PM | Report abuse

"The Fix" is exactly right: Biden is the perfect partner for Obama.
If Obama is to get any change whatever accomplished he must have a Vice President who knows all the levers of power in Washington, and beyond.
Biden knows McCain very well and will be able to get under his skin. It serves Obama well to have McCain responding to Biden. It gives Obama a window through which to float just a little bit above it all. Very smart.

Posted by: cms@cablespeed.com | August 23, 2008 7:02 PM | Report abuse

They both deserve each other right Chris?Obama is stuck. Forced to choose someone just as willing to go down while discriminating against Americans who happen to be Hispanics. There is a record that Biden has been on notice of Obams's race discrimination against Hispanics such as myself in Illinois for some time. I know. I placed him on it.

Posted by: Chaos45i | August 23, 2008 6:55 PM | Report abuse

Biden is great. No more free ride For McCain.

Posted by: JT | August 23, 2008 6:48 PM | Report abuse

biden's mates see him as smart and great to work with, Mad Mac has the reputation of being somewhat of a hothead. this election suddenly turned into a landslide. hope Mad Mac picks Mittens.

Posted by: PreAmerikkkan | August 23, 2008 6:48 PM | Report abuse

>he is also more than willing to savage the >Arizona senator -- with a smile.

I will savor every moment of this.

Posted by: Tom | August 23, 2008 6:47 PM | Report abuse

The comments to this entry are closed.

 
 
RSS Feed
Subscribe to The Post

© 2010 The Washington Post Company