The Palin Stunner

As governor of Alaska, Sarah Palin, shown here in a 2006 photo taken in Juneau, is among the most popular governors in the country and is widely viewed as a reformer. (AP Photo/ Brian Wallace/Juneua Empire)
DENVER -- John McCain's selection of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin to be his vice presidential running mate is a stunning surprise almost certain to recalibrate the race heading into the fall election.
The McCain campaign had make little secret of the fact that they wanted to pick a woman as the Arizona senator's running mate, believing that the rift caused by the protracted primary between Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton gave them an opportunity to pick up scads of disgruntled women.
While Palin was among those mentioned -- she cracked The Fix's Veepstakes Line on several occasions -- she was never seen as a serious contender: too young (she is in her early 40s), too inexperienced (she has been governor for less than two years) and from a state, in Alaska, that is not regarded as a battle ground.
When Palin gave birth to her fifth child, a son named Trig Paxson, in April and announced he had Down Syndrome, she was widely ruled out of the veepstakes. But, conversations obviously continued outside public view.
The Palin pick gives McCain a counterweight to the historical nature of the Democratic ticket, which features the first African American nominee of either party. Palin is the first woman to serve as the Republican vice presidential pick; Democrats crossed that Rubicon in 1984 when Geraldine Ferraro was Minnesota Sen. Walter Mondale's running mate in an election where the Democratic ticket was swamped by President Ronald Reagan.
In choosing Palin, McCain also doubles down on the maverick argument; Palin is the face of reform in the Republican party nationally and is clearly not of Washington -- a key element of her biography given how negative voter sentiment toward the nation's capital is currently.
Palin is also strongly pro-life and well liked by conservatives of all stripes, and her selection will be greeted with a huge sign of relief among those within the Republican base who feared that McCain might pick a pro-choice candidate like Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.) or former Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Ridge.
Palin won quick confirmation from the fiscal conservative wing of the party in the form of Club For Growth president Pat Toomey. "At a time when many Republicans are still clinging to pork-barrel politics, Governor Palin has quickly become a leader on this issue," said Toomey. "She is a principled reformer who understands how badly wasteful spending has marred the Republican brand."
Palin's newness on the national scene is both her greatest strength and her biggest weakness.
On the one hand, she will be greeted as a fresh face with a compelling personal story that voters will likely react well to. (Palin also has a son serving with the Army in Iraq, an interesting parallel with Democratic V.P. nominee Joe Biden.)
On the other, picking Palin complicates the argument forwarded by McCain that Obama's short resume makes him ill-equipped to be commander in chief. In picking a candidate who has been a statewide elected official for less than two years, McCain will be hard pressed to argue that experience in public life is a critical component of serving in national office.
Democrats are also likely to hone in on questions of whether Palin exerted her influence over her public safety commissioner to fire a state trooper involved in a contentious divorce from Palin's sister. Palin has denied any wrongdoing. In the immediate aftermath of the Palin news, Democrats were already moving the story around to reporters -- signaling their intent to make it a major issue.
Stay tuned for much more on the Palin pick. . . .
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Posted by: jerrysimon | September 6, 2008 12:02 PM | Report abuse
I am not sure who I am more distressed with, the CNN/media types that judge a woman based on the most sexist reasons possible or the Limbaugh types that believe McCain's refusal to slash and burn in his acceptance speech was a disservice to the Republican Party. What the heck does a young lady's mistaken pregnancy have to do with the Presidency? Isn't it fairly obvious that one of the reasons the public is sick of politics, politicians and government is that they are so self-serving? What is wrong in saying you represent the people and not necessarily one political party, no matter what it believes? Good for John McCain.
Posted by: Dennis English | September 5, 2008 1:43 PM | Report abuse
For those who have said the Reps are "out of touch" I have to differ. I have never heard a more energizing speech in many years (at least not from a Republican. Palin scored big on her speech last night. She was nothing short of amazing. I didn't care one thing about the election until last night. Go Sarah!
Posted by: Seattleite | September 4, 2008 5:58 PM | Report abuse
what in heavens name is wromg with you peple
it does not matter if the VP choice is a man or woman, black or white
Its is that person an AMERICAN, for the good ogf all opur people, a person who takes there oath on the BIBLE not the Coran, a person wjho respects our Dlag, not turns there back to itI there any Repuclican who you have never attacked or tried to attack with your frivolous nonsense
Wakke up and cxome back to what its all about OUR AMEICA
Posted by: i k k | September 3, 2008 8:19 PM | Report abuse
what in heavens name is wromg with you peple
it does not matter if the VP choice is a man or woman, black or white
Its is that person an AMERICAN, for the good ogf all opur people, a person who takes there oath on the BIBLE not the Coran, a person wjho respects our Dlag, not turns there back to itI there any Repuclican who you have never attacked or tried to attack with your frivolous nonsense
Wakke up and cxome back to what its all about OUR AMEICA
Posted by: i k k | September 3, 2008 7:26 PM | Report abuse
Sarah Palin attempted to have books she found objectionable banned from the local library when she was mayor. She then tried to fire the librarian who would not allow her to decide what was suitable reading. Seriously. This woman wants to dictate to everyone her morals, which I think are quite warped. God help us if this woman sits as VP. I find her decision to run as McCain's VP quite distressing because she has thrust her child into the spotlight when this should have been a private family matter. I believe Sarah Palin and McCain have used Bristol Palin as a poster child to get evangelical, prolife votes without any consideration for how humiliating or embarrassing this is for a 17 year old. Then she pushes a 17 into marriage...Shameful.
Posted by: cillann | September 2, 2008 6:55 PM | Report abuse
i think this is a very, very calculated pick by the GOP. they are soooo transparently out of touch. "Let's give them a woman!" And let our messaging machine produce knee-jerk talking points about being a "maverick investigating govment" and defending her daughter's personal choice to keep the baby, when GOP seeks to limit other women's personal choices in NOT keeping their babies.
GOP seeks to divide and polarize. Obama seeks a more open discussion to bridge the factions. This is the difference to me.
Posted by: sarah in georgia | September 1, 2008 3:42 PM | Report abuse
HOW MANY OF OBAMA'S CONSTITUENTS ARE SINGLE MOMS?
You know the Obama speeches about how fathers
need to be responsible and not abandon their
children's mothers. What hypocracy for Obama's
attack dogs to now smear Palin's family for their
daughters pregnancy.DAILY KOS ARE SCUM BAGS !!!
All you small minded people who are crucifying Governor Palin over the question of her fifth child, are just fueling a vicious smear campaign. Besides, if you want to exhibit your holier-than-thou attitude ... why don't you get even more angry at Obama, Michelle, and their children, for spending 20 years in an anti-American racist church, as well as associations with Farrakhan, Wright, Ayers, Rezko, etc.. These facts are much more relevant to the next administration, than the possibility of a loving mother taking the heat to protect her child and grandchild.
Posted by: Lee | September 1, 2008 1:56 PM | Report abuse
HOW MANY OF OBAMA'S CONSTITUENTS ARE SINGLE MOMS?
You know the Obama speeches about how fathers
need to be responsible and not abandon their
children's mothers. What hypocracy for Obama's
attack dogs to now smear Palin's family for their
daughters pregnancy.DAILY KOS ARE SCUM BAGS !!!
All you small minded people who are crucifying Governor Palin over the question of her fifth child, are just fueling a vicious smear campaign. Besides, if you want to exhibit your holier-than-thou attitude ... why don't you get even more angry at Obama, Michelle, and their children, for spending 20 years in an anti-American racist church, as well as associations with Farrakhan, Wright, Ayers, Rezko, etc.. These facts are much more relevant to the next administration, than the possibility of a loving mother taking the heat to protect her child and grandchild.
Posted by: Lee | September 1, 2008 1:55 PM | Report abuse
McCain/Palin Reform ticket is a joke. Why is it better to have two Reform Republicans come in an clean up the mess the Republicans have made in Congress? Doesn't it seem more logical to have a Democrat clean it up? The real mess came when the Republicans finally controlled both houses of Congress for some four years. From 2001-2002 , Democrats put some brakes on Bush but couldn't move an agenda forward because of Republicans blocking agendas and then the big trust in Bush after 9/11. Then since 2007, the Republicans have been filibustering in the Senate. The only cleanup needed is to vote the rascally Republicans out.
Palin Executive experience is also preposterous. Mayor of Wasilla AK decides where to locate the ice hockey rink and cuts the ribbon for the new Wal-Mart and it sounds like even that was a stretch for her. Popular governor of a state with oil revenues and few taxes of anyone except corporations. Critics call her the Chavez of the north for her generous $1200 checks to each citizen as well as the regular $1600 from the permanent fund. As a Democrat I applaud sharing the wealth, but this should sound a little like socialism to Republicans.
And as for her anti-stem cell, pro-life approach, even in cases of rape and incest- not appealing to most Americans.
Heck of a Job, John. Canceling the convention, even for a hurricane which reminds people how you voted against Katrina relief, must be the answer to Dobson's prayers. Now you can hug your VP instead of President Bush.
Posted by: murrayewv | September 1, 2008 2:28 AM | Report abuse
Wow. It now appears that McCain's vetting committee of eight didn't even bother to check through the newspapers of the town Palin was mayor of. (When investigative reporters arrived to have a look at them, they were told they were the first to make such a request.)
Not to have sufficiently vetted Gov. Palin raises major questions about McCain's judgment. It's not enough to say, "We're soul mates." Sounds a lot like Bush's "I looked into Putin's eyes."
Posted by: James | August 31, 2008 11:28 PM | Report abuse
Sarah is ready to handle the 3 a.m. phone call. No joke, look how well she handled the 4 a.m. phone call (allegedly) telling her Bristol's water broke.
Posted by: sullgroup | August 31, 2008 6:45 PM | Report abuse
The nicest thing for me about the Palin pick is that I don’t even have to think twice about her to know I oppose her- I simply am done supporting rightwing religious nutjobs...
So for me, at least, I don’t have to even bother with the issues of experience and her complete lack of knowledge regarding foreign affairs and well, hell, the fact she didn’t even know what the VP did a few weeks ago. I don’t have to think about any of that, as her extreme Bush religious views already disqualify her in my eyes. No more nutjob social conservatives. Ever.
Posted by: Robin Keast | August 31, 2008 3:22 PM | Report abuse
I am a pro-choice woman who was getting sick of this election and now all of a sudden, I do believe with the McCain-Palin ticket, something good is going to happen in the United States. I believe these 2 will take America where it needs to go. My husband was planning to vote Democratic and now he's sold on Palin. When you've been in the working world for 20 years, you know that somebody like Palin, who is an a**-kicker and not afraid of the party elite, is good for the country. It doesn't take 30 years of experiece to know how to kick *ss and take names.
I AM THRILLED!!!! FINALLY!!!!
Posted by: Camilla Outlaw | August 31, 2008 3:12 PM | Report abuse
More proof that white women have been and will always be the greatest beneficiaries of AFFIRMATIVE ACTION!
Quotas, anyone?
Posted by: anon | August 31, 2008 2:17 PM | Report abuse
ANyone else see the lecherous pic of McCain staring at Palin's chest while playing with his wedding ring??
Posted by: Grossed Out | August 31, 2008 1:42 PM | Report abuse
Democrats "bashing" Palin's family? I haven't seen that. I've seen a lot of people trying to get the truth, which, if McCain was running a smart campaign, he would have done before.
Oh and haven't the republicans been oh so nice to the democrats in this campaign cycle? Have you seen how Michelle Obama has been treated? I hope you were as upset with Rush Limbaugh saying she ought to be lynched as you are with democrats trying to find out if Palin is involved in a cover-up.
Posted by: HelenWheels | August 31, 2008 1:38 PM | Report abuse
Three unintended consequences from the Palin pick: (1) Tim Pawlenty can regrow his mullet. (2) Charlie Crist can back out of his sham marriage. (3) We won't have to see the pained expression Mitt Romney gets when he pretends to like John McCain.
Posted by: Eric | August 31, 2008 10:45 AM | Report abuse
The left is embarrassing themselves responding as they are to Palin....and I am a Democrat.
Palin won't lose because of experience, she'll win if the Democrats keep bashing her and her family.
Posted by: Maggie05 | August 31, 2008 9:43 AM | Report abuse
Criminally ridiculous!
At least Obama has been in the spotlight for 2 years and hasn't cracked.
Palin could begin to crack the moment she gets to Washington.
Then what?
Pray McCain stays healthy?
Ridiculous!
Posted by: marko65 | August 31, 2008 4:29 AM | Report abuse
What a wonderful choice in Gov. Sarah Palin for VP! Gov Palin balances the ticket beautifully and is the best person to aid John McCain as Vice President in his administration to run our country well. She brings in a distinguished record of executive experience - running a successful and popular government in Alaska. She has a record of clean government, reduction in spending and bipartisan dealings. An ideal ticket has 1 person who brings in Washington experience - experience with foreign policy, national security etc. while the other brings in executive experience - that of running a government. All major tickets, especially winning tickets in the last 4 decades or so have had such a combination. The Democratic ticket has no experience in running a government smoothly whatsoever.
As for the argument of experience - it is by no means of the table! It says a lot when the nominee for President is comparing his resume with the opposite parties nominee for VP! The VP position does lend itself to on the job training, but the office of President most certainly does not, like Joe Biden himself said. And anyway there is a world of difference between running for President and running for VP. The question of her becoming President and being capable/incapable of doing that arises only if something unfortunate were to happen to President McCain in the next 4 years. Obama could be President in under 4 months! Anyone who believes that Gov Palin is too inexperienced to be VP cannot even dream of Obama as Potus. I'm guessing we wont hear much from the Obama campaign this fall about the (in)experience of Sarah Palin - they would just be shooting themselves in the foot.
I however believe Gov. Palin is definitely ready to be VP, and even the President should such an unfortunate event arise. She has an amazing track record of running a Government and would certainly be able to do the job well atleast to serve out President McCain's term. Anycase by all indications Sen. McCain's health will be fine for atleast 4 years.
Also she has been the Governor of a state (a small state perhaps but a state none the less) and the Commander-in-Chief of a State National Guard (again, a small force perhaps but a force none the less). This alone put her as having more experience than the Democratic Ticket combined as neither of the 2 people on that ticket have any experience running a government or any experience of commanding an army (the person on the top of the ticket has no experience of being in an army, let alone commanding it!). Who would you rather have as CIC? For me its a clear choice - Palin. People ask whether you want to have Palin as CIC if anything happens to McCain - I ask whether you want to have Obama as CIC if anything happens to Biden (him not being there to mentor him and hold his hands every step of the way) or want Biden as CIC if anything happens to Obama. All this talk about heartbeat away really gets me - I would rather have Palin a heartbeat away from the Presidency than Obama at the Presidency! Also Nancy Pelosi is 2 heartbeats away from being CIC - now thats scary!!
I do not agree with people saying that the selection of Gov. Palin is a blatant attempt to get the women voters to vote republican this year. Anyone saying that is really insulting the intelligence of both the McCain campaign and more importantly the women of the country. I would ask all of you, especially women, to vote for the ticket not because of the gender of the VP candidate, but because this is the best ticket for a successful America for the next 4 years. Vote for Gov. Palin not because she is a women but because she is more than capable for the job of VP. None of us knew much about Gov. Palin till yesterday and I must admit that I was at first skeptical when I heard Sen. McCain's pick. I did some research on her and liked what I saw. I hope all voters would do the same so that they would realize Gov. Palin is not on the ticket just because she is a woman, she is on the ticket since she would be an excellent VP with the executive experience she brings in. I am sure that as this campaign progresses and people get to hear more about her and her achievements, the initial backlash from some quarters ('an insult to women thinking they will vote republican simply there is a woman on the ticket', or 'a pretty face totally incapable of taking tough decisions') will evaporate and people will vote for Gov. Palin and Sen McCain on the basis of their combined experience and achievements.
Posted by: James Downing | August 31, 2008 1:22 AM | Report abuse
The right wing media and McCain called Obama inexperienced. What experience does Palin have to be VP? McCain is flip flopping. It appears that McCain is looking out for himself and not country first. America has serious domestic and international problems and this Repub ticket is not one to address any of the issues.
Posted by: Really5 | August 31, 2008 12:29 AM | Report abuse
My mom just said she thinks John McCain realized after Obama's speech (that was watched by 38,000,000 people; more then watched the final day of American Idol) that he was going to lose, was tired and decided in haste to pick her. She would allow him to lose and save face at the same time. It would all be blamed on her and he could go back to the senate.
Funnily, my mom says that she insisted on meeting with my babysitters 2 or 3 times before she allowed them to babysit me. And John meets with Palin twice and thinks she is ready to be president if he dies in office? I guess that makes my old babysitters more vetted then this Miss Alaska runner-up. And think how many times you'd want to meet with someone before you decided they would take your kids and raise them, if you died! Go Mom.
I think that is so funny that John's first and second wives were beauty queens and now his VP pick is one, two. Oh My!
So, mom's still telling me what to write because she caught me blogging her thoughts. But, I think I agree with my Mom, John just wants his old job back. He's tired. But, I will say that he has been practicing on the prompters and his freaky smile. He isn't so hard to look at, anymore. My mom thinks he had botox done, recently. Oh, and that the RNC put him on Prozac.
Mom said it is really sad that the republican christians were praying for rain on Obama's speech because they probably tempted God and that is why their was flooding in the bible belt and why the hurricane is coming to LA again to remind the USA that Bush screwed up Katrina and that Bush is a republican and didn't put country first. She doesn't think anyone will get hurt in the USA this time because she thinks Bush is trying to get this one right so they can win the election and pretend nothing happened. Like the police man in SouthPark saying, "Move along. Nothing to see here."
I think those 38 million televisions had millions of democratic christians around them praying that Obama would be the next president.
I'm sorry, this lady just doesn't look presidential like Biden does.
Posted by: Olivia | August 31, 2008 12:28 AM | Report abuse
Was she for originally invading a country & why?
What about the economy-views please?
Healthcare...if all these babies are going to be born, maybe ill, or abused-left for adoption or an orphanage-who pays for all that?
there is an awful lot going on in the world-very sensitive issues, that cant always be solved with a Clint Eastwood showdown.
I feel Mr. McCain is insulting women, insulting Sen. Clinton, the position of V.P. & of president---not to mention Sen. Obama. I worry that he is not of sound judgement to be president of the US...wake up
Posted by: sue | August 30, 2008 11:31 PM | Report abuse
It's clear McCain would NEVER have picked this woman if Hillary had been chosen as VP. No way!
So much for putting "Country First."
If the Republicans plan to:
Put 1 voting machine in Dem areas and 10 in Rep areas, (again)
Put the usual anti-gay/abortion props on the ballet, (again)
Throw money at Nader, (again)
Use terrorism to scare the crap out of people, (again)
Start raising the Terror Alert Bar just before Nov 4, (again)
Pay to Flip electronic voting machines, (again)
Clean the voting rosters of minorities in swing states, (again)
Robo-Call minorities and tell them Dems vote on Nov 5, (again)
Or that they need a special "Packet" to register to vote, (again)
Call in favors from the MSM and Faux News, (again)
Peddle another tape of Bin Ladin a day before Nov 4, (again)
Or if they use the Supreme Court to appoint the president, just in case the above didn't steal the election (again),
Then we'll REALLY need to HOPE that John McCain doesn't die in office. Because Sarah Palin is no Hillary Clinton! She will not be ready on Day 1.
Or we can say, "Not this time!" and volunteer for the Obama/Biden ticket.
Here's a little history from 10/28/04
w w w . altweeklies.com/gyrobase/AltWeeklies/Story?oid=oid%3A140526
Posted by: Lexi | August 30, 2008 11:31 PM | Report abuse
Great choice. We all know that Obama used racism and sexism to beat Hillary. I don't think he'll get by with it with Palin. Hillary didn't want to disrupt the Democrat party or rend it asunder, but that is not a problem for Sarah Palin.
Posted by: Katherine | August 30, 2008 11:04 PM | Report abuse
Great choice. We all know that Obama used racism and sexism to beat Hillary. I don't think he'll get by with it with Palin. Hillary didn't want to disrupt the Democrat party, but that is not a problem for Sarah Palin.
Posted by: Katherine | August 30, 2008 11:03 PM | Report abuse
McLame's dumbfounded selection for VP now has the GOP know as the Goofy Old Party.
Posted by: Really5 | August 30, 2008 10:54 PM | Report abuse
Just like with his decision to vote "YES" to pre-emptively invade Iraq, McCain has failed again with his VP pick.
The Anchorage Daily News samples some state politician reaction:
"She's (Palin) not prepared to be governor. How can she be prepared to be vice president or president? said [State Senate President Lyda Green, a Republican from Palin's hometown of Wasilla]. "Look at what she's done to this state. What would she do to the nation?"
Full story here:
http://www.adn.com/politics/story/510249.html
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Posted by: LeeAnn Waters | August 30, 2008 10:48 PM | Report abuse
Ho! Hum! Yawn! So,oh okay all you irate vile vicious tempered crazy kool aid drinker paid Obamafools and Obamabots,your
Smears and Anger and Insane Jealousy of
Gov Sarah Palin has been duly noted here.
And so now can we all please get back to
our debating the real issues instead of your insane endless smears and personal attacks please you Obama Losers?
My Vote Goes To McCain and Palin in 2008!
Independent Voter Against Obama and Biden!
Posted by: Sandy5274 | August 30, 2008 9:23 PM | Report abuse
Her water broke in Texas, she then continued to give her speech, and then she got on a flight (10+) hours back to Alaska?
This story smells, very bad. There is obviously something else going on here.
Airlines don't let you on a plan when you're in your last trimester, isn't that so?
There appears to be a hidden story here. Do we need to leave it to the National Enquirer to vet the candidate?
Posted by: Quin Dwyer | August 30, 2008 9:06 PM | Report abuse
I'm puzzled by American conservatives who think that "conservative beliefs" trump every other professional qualification to run for President or Vice President (Messrs Agnew and Quayle).
Do they TRULY expect Ms Palin's conservatism to morph into Presidential wisdom in her role as our Chief Executive, Commander in Chief, State Head of Foreign Policy? (Actuarily, McCain is a long shot to make it through his full term, faculties intact.)
American Conservatives' tolerance of incompetent leadership is leading the USA into Reagan's "trash heap of history".
In the Republican Party dogma trumps competence every time.
(Thank you for 8 years of George Bush!)
While you eschew a woman's right to take the "morning after" pill, you have no problem throwing the baby known as the "American Experiment" out with the bathwater....stupid is as stupid does.
Forest Gump and Chance the Gardener could have been Republican Presidential candidates!
Posted by: Curiouslydark | August 30, 2008 8:39 PM | Report abuse
Palin is also a wolf killer...
she voted for the wolf aerial hunting program which has slaughtered in cold - blood thousands of wolves....and plans to exterminate entire wolf packs..
for no good reason....
Twice the residents of Alaska under then Governor Murkowski and now Pailin voted in favor of stopping the aerial gunning of wolves but this fell on deaf ears and the governors decided to continue the program against the wishes of the majority of the people.
She is also in favor of opening up Anwr to oil rigs.
We need alternative fuel now not dirty oil to keep our addiction alive and keep us chained to the oil executives.
Vote Obama-Biden 2008
lets stop this madness of
McSame-Failin 08.
Posted by: Jeff Dearman | August 30, 2008 6:56 PM | Report abuse
Has anyone heard her speak. Where did she learn English? Spare us all over again!!
Posted by: nclwtk | August 30, 2008 6:34 PM | Report abuse
Sarah Palin was not picked by John McCain. She was picked by Big Oil who put her in office in Alaska. The state gets 85% of its income from oil and they have run its politics for many years. She has done nothing but advocate for them since gaining office. Drill in the Artic National Wildlife Refuge? No problem. Shoot wolves and bears from airplanes and helicopters- No problem. She is a paid shill for Exxon and BP, where her husband has worked for 20 years.
Posted by: Lucas Phillips | August 30, 2008 6:24 PM | Report abuse
This woman is just a heartbeat away from the Presidency? Save us please......
Posted by: nclwtk | August 30, 2008 6:23 PM | Report abuse
Palin is no Hillary, but Hillary is no Palin either. It's not as though there is one model woman to which all women should aspire, and any lady who believes that a woman must be just like Hillary to appeal to women is more of a misogynist than most men out there. Palin's viewpoints do resonate with quite a few women out there - not necessarily the "Hillary" feminist crowd exactly, but there are plenty of women for whom Hillary didn't do it and Palin would.
Palin has little experience it is true, but I expect that she is going to be studying up on it in the months (maybe years) to come. In both cases the candidates are picking up VP's who shore up their weaknesses; Obama is inexperienced, so he found a running mate with a track record to help mentor him; McCain has experience, but needed a maverick, a new face, and a bit of a shocker to halp connect with those who want to see new blood - he got Palin, and will be mentoring her.
A very bold move on McCain's part - a large potential gain or a large potential liability, who knows. It's too soon to call.
Posted by: JZ | August 30, 2008 6:08 PM | Report abuse
Just read all the sexist comments posted here and know that the progress made in racism (with civil rights) has not been made with sexism (with equal rights).
I worked full time and breastfed and raised children and completed graduate school. My biggest obstacle was the ridiculously predjudiced idea that motherhood disqualified a woman from being a functional employee and working disqualified a woman from being a functional mother.
I am so excited about all the barriers that Sarah Palin is breaking here for working mothers as well as for all American women.
Hopefully this time the media will examine their own sexist views and repoorting - as well as the horrifically prejudiced attitudes toward women in America.
Posted by: McCain Hillary Supporter | August 30, 2008 6:00 PM | Report abuse
Palin is nothing more than an inexperienced creationist cheerleader.
"Dermot Cole, a longtime columnist for Alaska's second largest newspaper, the Fairbanks Daily News-Miner, called McCain's choice of Palin "reckless" and questioned her credentials. "Sarah Palin's chief qualification for being elected governor was that she was not Frank Murkowski," Cole said of her enormously unpopular predecessor, who lost favor with Alaskans in part because of unpopular budget cuts. "She was not elected because she was a conservative. She was not elected because of her grasp of issues or because of her track record as the mayor of Wasilla."
Full story here:
http://www.newsminer.com/news/2008/aug/29/palin-vice-presidential-candidacy-raises-eyebrows-/
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Posted by: Bush + Cheney = McCain | August 30, 2008 5:58 PM | Report abuse
The people who are condeming Gov. Palin for having 5 children must be the same ones that angrily state Hillary should have left Bill. Do you have lives? Have you ever been loved? How do you have the wisdom and righteousness and nerve to pass moral judgement on others? All the sad and lonely people (and angry, fearful, resentful....)
Posted by: Lizfi | August 30, 2008 5:18 PM | Report abuse
Sarah Palin is a strong advocate for shooting, maiming, and killing wildlife from airplanes and helicopters.
Alaska is truly our nation's last frontier. It is also the last place in the U.S. where a few hunters still use aircraft to chase and kill wolves. They shoot these animals from the air or chase them to exhaustion before landing and shooting them point blank.
As recently as July, state wildlife agency personnel in Alaska staked out a known wolf denning site -- a practice that is illegal under Alaska law -- and, using helicopters, gunned down 14 adult wolves from the air. When they landed, they found the 14 helpless pups in the nearby dens -- just weeks old -- and methodically shot each one in the head. 28 wolves gunned down in all.
Congress passed a law thirty five years ago to put an end to aerial hunting. But Alaska is exploiting a loophole in federal law to resume the practice, not only for wolves, but bears as well. Hundreds of scientists have condemned what Alaska is doing, even as other states threaten to follow Alaska's lead. It's time to stop aerial hunting once and for all.
Rep. George Miller (CA) has introduced the Protect America's Wildlife (PAW) Act, legislation to close a federal loophole and curb Alaska's brutal aerial hunting program -- and prevent programs like it from spreading to places like the Greater Yellowstone region.
Please urge your Representative to sign on as a cosponsor to Rep. George Miller's PAW Act.
John Mccain's hero Teddy Roosevelt would be appalled at Palin.
Not this time.
Posted by: Elizabeth Gilmore | August 30, 2008 4:37 PM | Report abuse
Well, Palin approval 86%
Congress 11% , any questions?
Posted by: Mark in Spokane | August 30, 2008 4:36 PM | Report abuse
I'd be interested in hearing from an obstetrician. Palin is 7 months pregnant, flies to Texas to make a spech. Before the speech, her water breaks and she goes into labor. She goes ahead with the speech. So far, so good. It will be a premature birth but with modern medicine it isn't a problem. Then, she gets on a plane to Alaska!!! That is a long flight. What about the baby? What if there are complications? Surely complications can happen with a premature birth from a 44 year old. How freaking thoughtless can she be? So, in Palin's world, her convenience is more important than insuring a healthy birth?
Posted by: renu1 | August 30, 2008 4:10 PM | Report abuse
bsimon, "cleaning up" AK? ARe you kidding me? She's pals with Ted Stevens of Internets Tubes fame! He's one corrupt dude.
Posted by: HelenWheels | August 30, 2008 3:56 PM | Report abuse
I guess this is the new GOP talking point that rightwingers have been assigned to disseminate:
"As far as experience, Palin has more executive experience than Obama, Biden or McCain."
I would like a full example with pertinent details for this statement, please. I've been hearing it verbatim all over the place but without one shred of evidence to back it up. Thank you in advance.
Posted by: HelenWheels | August 30, 2008 3:55 PM | Report abuse
In one fell swoop, you folks have not only besmirched the name not only of a 16 year-old child, but a baby with Down Syndrome, saying it should have been aborted. Heil Hitler!
What is wrong with people? Can't you stick to the issues? Why do you always have to sling mud?
These two children of Sarah Palin's are CHILDREN...!
Posted by: Jo | August 30, 2008 3:49 PM | Report abuse
Wow, there are some really disgusting people on the left.
Posted by: goaway | August 30, 2008 3:48 PM | Report abuse
SARAH PALIN - IS DAN QUAYLE IN A PONYTAIL!!
You just cant make this stuff up!!
Posted by: McSENILE!!!! | August 30, 2008 3:37 PM | Report abuse
With all due respect to Gov. Palin, her phenomenal rise in government is mostly due to having been uncommonly fortunate in running against simply horrendous opponents every step of the way.
There is no need to question her character. I know she is the real thing in that regard. My problem with her is that McCain has put her one senior moment away from a job for which she simply isn't ready to even intern for.
And it's just another demonstration of why John McCain's tendency to roll the dice in extraordinarily high stakes personal games of chance shows this VERY scary mentality is showing up in him as a presidential candidate.
With all due regard for Gov. Palin, her very selection should make every thinking voter pause!
Posted by: Carmen Cameron | August 30, 2008 3:31 PM | Report abuse
That story about Palin's baby being her daughter's is not at all crazy.
As a matter of fact that will be the big story in the next few days.
I am from Alaska.
And by the way the rumor that her daughter had a bun in the oven started BEFORE Sarah announced she was even pregnant! It was started, apparently, by her daughters high school classmates. Who noticed that Bristol Palin was out of school for months with a bad case of Mono.
It was only in early March that Sarah said she was pregnant and then delivered on April 18th, right after flying in from Texas on a 12 hour flight AFTER her water supposedly broke.
Still think it is crazy?
Posted by: Gryphen | August 30, 2008 3:22 PM | Report abuse
Who does that Gov. Palin think she is, some empty headed beauty queen, baby-making factory and thinking she is the 2nd coming of Joan of Arc? How dare she have 5 children with the last one that should have been aborted. How can she ever handle the job and take care of those children? Who gets as far as she has (44) without marrying some kind of politician or president?
We dems will cut her to shreds won't we?
Posted by: Pat W. | August 30, 2008 1:51 PM | Report abuse
Palin has a 5 month old. Does anyone know if she is breast-feeding? What does she think of breast-feeding? Will she be taking the infant with her as travels around the country?
Posted by: renu1 | August 30, 2008 1:42 PM | Report abuse
As a woman I find this insulting to my intelligence, she maybe a woman but she sure in the hell doesn't speak for me!
And for her to invoke Hillary's name when she called her a whiner, Hillary stands more for woman in this country than his little girl, so to all you who thinks she has a woman's best interest at heart you better do some reading, she is against a woman's right to chose,she is under investigation in Alaska for the firing of a civil servant,she was for the bridge to nowhere before she was against it, as for McSame he has voted against woman's issues such as fair pay,health care for children,the list goes on.
So you may have won the day on the media but we have had ENOUGH!!!!!!!!!!!! of conservative rule in this country and it is time for us to take it back.
And one last thought if you are better off now than you were 8yrs ago than Mcsame is for you,if you like the idea of another oil person in the white house than McSame is for you, his running mates husband owns a big oil business.
So think before you leap!
Posted by: sandy | August 30, 2008 12:28 PM | Report abuse
Mccains website has completely changed it's theme. No more country first but Mccain is for women. He is going to change his entire message at this point? What a pandering phony SOB. This from a guy who thinks women are "CU*TS'
Posted by: Anonymous | August 30, 2008 11:37 AM | Report abuse
There is actually evidence to support this. It is not as crazy as it sounds. It is also not at all hard to fake something like this especially in a place like Alaska.
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Some moron wrote:
"That baby with Downs syndrome is not Sarah Palin's baby at all , but the baby of her eldest daughter and Sarah Palin faked the birth to cover up her daughter's unwanted pregnancy."
Yeah, and she woke up every morning a put a big pillow under her blouse in an effort to fool everyone!!
Posted by: Tom | August 30, 2008 10:22 AM
Posted by: truth | August 30, 2008 11:22 AM | Report abuse
Another bad day for the Baracky Hussein Obama campaign.
Every single day, he sounds more and more like a Republican. Saying anything that he thinks will gain him votes – he is a poll watcher with no convictions.
Baracky Hussein Obama has an extremely liberal voting record – he cannot run and hide from that fact.
Even his running mate and Hillary Clinton have stated, that he is not qualified to be President.
I hope that all Hispanic voters realize, that they will be at the bottom of the barrel if Baracky Hussein Obama is elected.
Baracky Hussein Obama will have to pacify the Black voters, after receiving 99 % of their vote in November.
Democrats for John McCain in 2008 – The Maverick is back.
Posted by: gary | August 30, 2008 11:17 AM | Report abuse
McCain the shameless mudslinger maverick, now turned into a scavenger who wants to feed on of Clinton’s 18 million supporters to help him get propelled into the White House.
Posted by: andre | August 30, 2008 11:15 AM | Report abuse
At first I thought that McCain had finally lost all his marbles,in picking a rank amateur with no national experience. After doing a little research, however, and after watching Maria Bartiromo's interview with the new Governor of Alaska, it is apparent to me that the old man did not make this choice after all.
The choice was made for him by the same people that brought us George Bush and Dick Cheney- None other than the people who brought us the war in Iraq. Big oil.
The whole Bartiromo/Palin interview is propaganda for big oil. and drilling in the Anwr. She is simply a shill for the big oil companies posing as a hockey mom. Her husband has worked for British Petroleum for over 20 years, and she was put into office to carry out their policies.
Drilling in the Artic National Wildlife Refuge is environmenatally courting disaster, and it simply won't lower the price of oil.
It is extremely costly to drill this way, and to have the oil travel thousands of miles through a pipeline that must be heated and constantly monitored is expensive and dangerous. It can never be cost competitive over sources in the middle east which can pump their oil at a fraction of the cost of either Anwr or offshore. The price of oil indeed is not determined by short term supply and demand as Sarah says, but by the hedge fund speculators and the obscene profits that the majors have decided that they can get away with in Bush's last days in office.
When Bush started the war in Iraq the price was $1.75 per gallon. Iraq was pumping over 3,000,000 gallons a day and selling it outside the OPEC cartel. When we invaded, it took the cheap oil off the market allowing OPEC to raise the price. It was indeed a war about the control of oil- not about WMD's, freedom, or the security of America.
Palin uses all the oil trade slang like "oil hungry," to make the case for her persistent call for expanded drilling. Has she forgotten what the Exxon Valdez did to the Native American fishermen? It will happen again.
Big oil made Bush governor of Texas, then President of the United States. Now it is trying to put McSame and Palin in office to carry out their business for them.
It is not about electing a woman, it is simply about electing people friendly to the oil cartels.
Not this time.
Posted by: Anonymous | August 30, 2008 10:43 AM | Report abuse
sara palin has only been on the scene for a day and already your tearing her apart. she has more to offer than all the has been and the so called old timers have to give. the country wants change, I think she is one to bring it about. some of those people in congress have been there most of there lives and what are they doing, why haven't they turned the country around. do you think the democrats higher taxes is going to do the job, I don't think so it hasn't in the past, why would it now? she may not be a hillary, but she has a lot less baggage to bring to the white house, so I think she should be at least given a chance. who knows maybe she will be that fresh breath of air we have all been waiting for.
Posted by: erbear | August 30, 2008 10:40 AM | Report abuse
Who is going to raise her baby while she's off campaigning and playing VP? We all know that running for office requires some very long days.
Not a Hillary supporter, but Palin is pathetic next to Hillbilly.
Posted by: Hoosier | August 30, 2008 10:32 AM | Report abuse
Some moron wrote:
"That baby with Downs syndrome is not Sarah Palin's baby at all , but the baby of her eldest daughter and Sarah Palin faked the birth to cover up her daughter's unwanted pregnancy."
Yeah, and she woke up every morning a put a big pillow under her blouse in an effort to fool everyone!!
Posted by: Tom | August 30, 2008 10:22 AM | Report abuse
Can you post why you think that? I have a very strong reason to believe that also.
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That baby with Downs syndrome is not Sarah Palin's baby at all , but the baby of her eldest daughter and Sarah Palin faked the birth to cover up her daughter's unwanted pregnancy.
Posted by: This just in | August 30, 2008 12:38 AM
Posted by: Anonymous | August 30, 2008 9:35 AM | Report abuse
The VP pick is under investigation for abuse of power! Wow! She is following in the foosteps of our current president - who knows all about abuse of power!
Another respondent was glad to hear that McCain had selected a "born-again" Christian as his running mate. What is it that makes the religious right think that a "born-again" Christian will make the best president? After all, our current president claims to be one. What an example that is. And why do Republican candidates think that the religious right are the only Christians??????
Posted by: Ed | August 30, 2008 9:34 AM | Report abuse
Obamas campaign of deception is falling apart.He deserves this.He should have begged HIllary to be on the ticket even especially since DNC stole the nomination from her.After all she won the popular vote.
Posted by: Anonymous | August 30, 2008 9:04 AM | Report abuse
Obama's lack of backbone and in succumbing to his own insecurities, failed to pick as his running mate Hillary Clinton and her l8 million voters.
His decision only illustrated a decision made from weakness not one of strength.
I think it will be Obama's downfall on November 4th.
Posted by: Anonymous | August 30, 2008 8:41 AM | Report abuse
To HarrisburgPA:
Hillary supporters, from what I gather, are going to vote for McCain/Palin. I've been on several Clinton supporters' websites and they're going to vote Republican for President and vote Democratic for the Senate and Congress.
This way Obama can't become POTUS but the Democrats in Congress will have enough votes for veto override power, for bills they want passed.
The protest vote will be against Obama and the DNC (Pelosi, Reid, Dean and Brazile, etc).
So those who think women are going to vote for a pro-choice candidate are going to be proven wrong.
As far as experience, Palin has more executive experience than Obama, Biden or McCain. As for foreign affairs experience, Obama picked Biden to shore up his lack of experience in that area. Besides, Obama is running for President and is seriously lacking in many areas.
In fact, it appears that in the short time she has been Governor, she has many accomplishments and hit the ground running when inaugurated.
Obama will rue the day he ever passed over Clinton.
Posted by: D | August 30, 2008 8:17 AM | Report abuse
>>Look, this country needs to get back on a christian track, and this is the way to do it - not get some heathen faux-muslim with a name like the former dictator of a country that we are at war at. She is a conservative christian, and she will appoint more christians who will help us to overturn roe vs wade and much of the other liberalism from the radical 70's movement. <<
So, it's supposed to be a point in Gov. Palin's favor, that, if elected, she will violate the U.S. Constitution? The Framers, who lived in and tried to form a country that could contintue to live, in dangerous times, included, in Article VI of the Constitution, "The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States."
I am a woman who supported and voted for Hillary Clinton, in Pennsylvania, whose primary she won. All I can say is that anyone who says that they supported Clinton but will vote for McCain because he chose someone whose only commonality with HRC is that they both have two X chromosomes and whose positions directly contradict everything for which Clinton stands did not truly support Clinton.
I respect Palin's choice about her youngest child, but, then, that IS what pro-Choice is all about: supporting a woman's right to make choices about her body and her reproductive decisions. Pro-choice doesn't want government to make that decision for her, whether to have an abortion or continue the pregnancy and, after birth, to keep the baby or put the baby up for adoption. On the other hand, in Palin's case, she wasn't free from coercion. For a conservative Republican female politician, having an abortion would be political suicide.
Posted by: HarrisburgPA | August 30, 2008 7:56 AM | Report abuse
MikeN she has more than Barak Obama, and your only saying that because she is a woman.
Posted by: Anonymous | August 30, 2008 5:52 AM | Report abuse
Gee, Senator McCain says there are two duties of the Vice President. One is to break a tie in the Senate (which after this election year, won't be needed) and two, this is the best one of all, is as he says. "The other duty of the vice president of the United States is to inquire daily as to the health of the president. So that will obviously make my pick very important."
Obviously, she can handle the first one but will not have that opportunity and as for the second one, ah, if Senator McCain was serious, I am not sure I would have selected someone with such little experience as being the person that is ONE heartbeat away from the presidency.
Nice Judgment, John!
Posted by: MikeN | August 30, 2008 4:57 AM | Report abuse
I think you will find when you strip off the veneer you will find another big government republican just like McCain. So if you want more illegal wars, domestic spying and the loss of our civil rights then vote for McCain or Obama. If you want to make your voice heard and reject the aforementioned then make Ron Paul your choice.
Posted by: theropingeffect | August 30, 2008 4:19 AM | Report abuse
At first I thought that McCain had finally lost all his marbles,in picking a rank amateur with no national experience. After doing a little research, however, and after watching Maria Bartiromo's interview with the new Governor of Alaska, it is apparent to me that the old man did not make this choice after all.
The choice was made for him by the same people that brought us George Bush and Dick Cheney- None other than the people who brought us the war in Iraq. Big oil.
The whole Bartiromo/Palin interview is propaganda for big oil. and drilling in the Anwr. She is simply a shill for the big oil companies posing as a hockey mom. Her husband has worked for British Petroleum for over 20 years, and she was put into office to carry out their policies.
Drilling in the Artic National Wildlife Refuge is environmenatally courting disaster, and it simply won't lower the price of oil.
It is extremely costly to drill this way, and to have the oil travel thousands of miles through a pipeline that must be heated and constantly monitored is expensive and dangerous. It can never be cost competitive over sources in the middle east which can pump their oil at a fraction of the cost of either Anwr or offshore. The price of oil indeed is not determined by short term supply and demand as Sarah says, but by the hedge fund speculators and the obscene profits that the majors have decided that they can get away with in Bush's last days in office.
When Bush started the war in Iraq the price was $1.75 per gallon. Iraq was pumping over 3,000,000 gallons a day and selling it outside the OPEC cartel. When we invaded, it took the cheap oil off the market allowing OPEC to raise the price. It was indeed a war about the control of oil- not about WMD's, freedom, or the security of America.
Palin uses all the oil trade slang like "oil hungry," to make the case for her persistent call for expanded drilling. Has she forgotten what the Exxon Valdez did to the Native American fishermen? It will happen again.
Big oil made Bush governor of Texas, then President of the United States. Now it is trying to put McSame and Palin in office to carry out their business for them.
It is not about electing a woman, it is simply about electing people friendly to the oil cartels.
Not this time.
Posted by: Elizabeth Gilmore | August 30, 2008 3:55 AM | Report abuse
Last I recall, the only reason Sarah Palin made your "VP Stakes" list was as a PASS FAKE....guised as "A HAIL MARY PASS".....
So who is in the know?
Democrats had a winning coalition with HRC and instead the media chose to mock that suggestion.
Looks like the point guard has a clear shot at it.....
I find it amusing how the same OL' boys club attacked her today......... politics as usual...more of the same
So who is showing their true colors?
Exactly!!
All Mccain has to do is what the DNC failed to .......denounce the underlying SEXIST agenda at play here
WAKE UP
Posted by: jws/America08 | August 30, 2008 3:18 AM | Report abuse
Most people have yet to realize the true reason why McCain picked Sarah Palin.
Here is the true reason:
Palin comes with a ready-made misconduct scandal ("Wootengate") already well underway, guaranteeing that she will quickly take the media spotlight off McCain and the state of the Bush economy. Since McCain has no solutions to anything, distracting the media is an urgent necessity. Just before the election, McCain can dump her and replace her with someone else.
Posted by: ILoveAmerica | August 30, 2008 2:31 AM | Report abuse
But if McCain wanted to make an impression, it was not a positive one.
What were you smoking?
Posted by: Easy on the eyes. | August 30, 2008 2:22 AM | Report abuse
McCain made a great choice. He's replacing his rich trophy wife for an athletic beauty queen half his age. This gives new meaning the "porkbarreling".
McCain you are a pig and you are not going to bring this country down with you.
Posted by: I'm not surprised. | August 30, 2008 2:20 AM | Report abuse
What a joke.
McCain just handed the keys to the White Hous to the DEMS.
I'm demoralized.
This must be the most reckless thing McCain has ever done.
Posted by: Stunned! | August 30, 2008 2:16 AM | Report abuse
Look at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Condoleezza_Rice
and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Palin
Too bad He never knew there were any women in the Republican party who were actually talented, smart and capable. So he picks someone who ran on a ticket of republicans are corrupt, so vote for me?
Sigh. At least she looks good in fur.
Posted by: Go Figure | August 30, 2008 2:14 AM | Report abuse
So if you can get to work on your knees you can qualify for VEEP?
Posted by: Disappointed | August 30, 2008 2:14 AM | Report abuse
If I know little about OBAMA, I know less about Palin.
I seriously have to question McCain's judgement. Palin has much less experience than Obama. 2 years as AK governor is hardly experience and mayor of a town of less than 10k hardly qualifies her as a President if McCain dies in office.
This is very wreckless of McCain.
I guess the GOP will not retain the White House.
Posted by: Great, the Dems have it! | August 30, 2008 2:07 AM | Report abuse
There could actually be something to this.
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That baby with Downs syndrome is not Sarah Palin's baby at all , but the baby of her eldest daughter and Sarah Palin faked the birth to cover up her daughter's unwanted pregnancy.
Posted by: This just in | August 30, 2008 12:38 AM
Posted by: Anonymous | August 30, 2008 1:15 AM | Report abuse
When Obama picked Biden as his VP everyone agreed he picked the best person out of all of the finalists (and many think he was the best possible pick period.)
McCain's pick is having the opposite impact, the growing consensus is that she is the worst of all of McCain's finalists; and worse than a few hundred other options.
The office of Vice President is not an internship or an apprenticeship or a civics lesson or even on the job training. The VP must be ready day 1; especially when the person in the top job is 72 years old with a history of cancer.
She seems like a nice enough lady but is she even capable of mastering the issues of the day?
To say the least, this is a very risky pick for McCain and I don't want that sort of risk taker to be in control of "the button" or the military or the budget or the CIA. He isn't a maverick; he is a crazy man.
Posted by: Peninsula Matt | August 30, 2008 1:00 AM | Report abuse
As an American, I am embarrassed by John's pick and how little regard he has for the situation our country would be in should, God forbid, he were elected and, God forbid, he could not then complete his term. I am also sad that he does not realize that with his age and health concerns that he, more than most, seems to have failed to keep this in mind. IS THIS PATRIOTISM?
Sarah might prove to be a terrific choice, but who does John think he is to choose someone who has not been in the national limelight or gone before the American people from coast-to-coast? Does he not know about Spiro Agnew or Dan Quyale - both choices the American people wish the respective candidates at the time had not chosen?
Sarah never ran for national office or never served at the national level to give Americans a chance to accept or reject her. Say what you want about Obama's experience, but he has gone from coast-to-coast and put himself and his ideas before the American people. If you are inexperienced or unknown, I contend you are not someone who should be picked by the candidate alone; you should be vetted by the American people.
Posted by: Byron | August 30, 2008 12:57 AM | Report abuse
That baby with Downs syndrome is not Sarah Palin's baby at all , but the baby of her eldest daughter and Sarah Palin faked the birth to cover up her daughter's unwanted pregnancy.
Posted by: This just in | August 30, 2008 12:38 AM | Report abuse
I'm another disillusioned dem voting McCain/Palin.
Obama is too liberal (impractical) for me.
Posted by: Kate Sheahan | August 30, 2008 12:35 AM | Report abuse
The comments on this blog are either hostile or condescending or both. It seems most of the country knows which party they were voting for way before any candidate got the nomination and once again it is about which strategy will be more clever and palatable and which people can control the scandal machine. A pathetic degradation of the political process playing to the vile and ever present lowest common denominator.
This is the election which will decide the future of our economy, world standing, major wars and diplomacy, the roe v. wade decision and the future of the American Education System. In short the soul of the nation is being questioned. I think each citizen should do some serious soul searching before attacking anyone else's views.
Posted by: SteveNY | August 30, 2008 12:35 AM | Report abuse
No, the title should be "Who the Hell is Sarah Palin?"
Posted by: majorteddy | August 30, 2008 12:35 AM | Report abuse
Once again, McCain has shown NO judgement with his VP pick. It is almost insulting to us women, him thinking that any woman would do... With due respect to Mrs. Palin, my first impression of her was that someone was pulling my leg!
Posted by: Macky | August 30, 2008 12:29 AM | Report abuse
Tim wrote: "All I have to say she is easier on the eyes than Dick Cheney or Hillary Clinton!!!"
What a blatantly sexist remark. I may not support McCain/Palin, but I still take strong offense to your characterization of Palin as a sexual object. Certainly, the Palin earned the right to be treated first and foremost as a successful politician.
Posted by: Catherine | August 30, 2008 12:06 AM | Report abuse
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Rumor has it that he asked Hutchinson and Bailey and they both declined. I suppose they saw through his patronizing women by picking one for his VP. Let's hope Hillary supporters will see it as the same.
Posted by: duped | August 30, 2008 12:05 AM | Report abuse
Why she has more to give: Fact: Sarah Palin is the governor of the largest state in the United States, period. Even if it is by landmass only. This gives her the unique opportunity of managing resources and people in extreme conditions. And being responsible for national defense, energy resources, to include natural related issues that the other candidates could only dream of being responsible for. Being that Alaska vicinity to the Russian Federation. I could go on, but the point is. She has more access to protecting the United States defense as a governor at this moment, than Barack Obama. People forget that she is a governor at this moment. While Obama has to convince us he is going to be. Either way, I wish only the best to all the candidates.
Posted by: rob2012endgame | August 29, 2008 11:59 PM | Report abuse
I sit here and read how cruel some of these previous posts are and it makes me sick to my stomach. That some of these people can sit here and down on the down syndrome child of Sarah Palin is in itself pathetic and repulsive! Sarah Palin may not have the "experience" of National and international affairs but she deals with the goings on of a large and diverse state with plenty of issues. In Alaska, here she is the "executive office." She works for the people here. It is my understanding that Senators and Legislators are just a voice in the crowd of a group of people where the majority votes on a descision. While it may be true inexperience is a downfall, others may welcome the change. I personally hope that McCain/Palin win in November and prove all of the people that are cruel and judgmental wrong. I believe that Sarah Palin will fight just as hard for this nation as she does the State of Alaska.
Whats the old saying "Don't judge a book by its cover?"
Good Luck Sarah Palin, this is one of many Alaskans that will be voting for McCain/Palin 2008!
Posted by: Proud Palin Supporter | August 29, 2008 11:48 PM | Report abuse
Why she has more to give: Fact: Sarah Palin is the governor of the largest state in the United States, period. Even if it is by landmass only. This gives her the unique opportunity of managing resources and people in extreme conditions. And being responsible for national defense, energy resources, to include natural related issues that the other candidates could only dream of being responsible for. Being that Alaska vicinity to the Russian Federation. I could go on, but the point is. She has more access to protecting the United States defense as a governor at this moment, than Barack Obama. People forget that she is a governor at this moment. While Obama has to convince us he is going to be. Either way, I wish only the best to all the candidates.
Posted by: rob2012endgame | August 29, 2008 11:47 PM | Report abuse
Why she has more to give: Fact: Sarah Palin is the governor of the largest state in the United States, period. Even if it is by landmass only. This gives her the unique opportunity of managing resources and people in extreme conditions. And being responsible for national defense, energy resources, to include natural related issues that the other candidates could only dream of being responsible for. Being that Alaska vicinity to the Russian Federation. I could go on, but the point is. She has more access to protecting the United States defense as a governor at this moment, than Barack Obama. People forget that she is a governor at this moment. While Obama has to convince us he is going to be. Either way, I wish only the best to all the candidates.
Posted by: rob2012endgame | August 29, 2008 11:45 PM | Report abuse
Oh my yes, this Hillary supporter will be only too happy to fall for McCain's choice for the V. P. Here is a Republican doing what the Democratic candidate didn't have the backbone to do. BHO was so intimidated by Hillary he was afraid of picking her as his running mate because she was more popular, erudite, and actually
has a platform of ideas that appealed to the American electorate.
Good going John McCain-I like people who
don't mind stirring things up for the people they serve and Palin seems to be just the ticket.
Hillary Democrat for McCain-Palin.
Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 11:40 PM | Report abuse
I really do not see the correlation between Palin's inexperience and Obama's. Palin is running for V.P. She will basically be observing and learning, not making any real decisions. Obama is the one running to lead the country so his experience matters more than hers. I think McCain still has a very strong argument against Obama. Even if McCain does not serve his full term Palin will have gained the necessary experience to be commander in Chief after serving as VP for a few years. I don't understand why people are trying to compare Obama and Palin you can't.
Posted by: anonymous | August 29, 2008 11:39 PM | Report abuse
Let's see. Twenty plus years after the Democrats pick a woman for VP and a few weeks after a hotly contested Democratic primary between a woman, Hillary Clinton and a black man, Barack Obama, in which Obama won by a heartbeat the Republicans pick a white woman for VP? And they call this news? They're only twenty years late and a pound foolish. Hillary Clinton was a really qualified candidate in a race where there can be only one winner. I don't think anyone in the Democratic party considered her a token female, I'm sure Barack Obama didn't.
Palin's background doesn't warrant her being a 72 year old's heart beat away from the presidency, man or woman.
Also, after several months of Republican negative advertising about Obama's lack of experience they pick some one with no experience. Sounds like a lot of ad dollars wasted.
Also,
Posted by: JED Guertin | August 29, 2008 11:33 PM | Report abuse
I think Sarah Palin is an interesting choice, in that she is not the person we were expecting, but he could have surprised us with a more experienced politician, such as Senator Olympia Snowe. His pick smacks of tokenism, and desperation, and fails to satisfy many of us men who feel that only a woman could sort out the mess that Bush will leave behind.
Also, Biden has been a Senator for 8 years longer than McCain, so I'm not quite sure how he is rated as being less experienced... Republicans, and their gift with numbers - no wonder the economy is doing so well.
Posted by: Olly | August 29, 2008 11:26 PM | Report abuse
Would someone please fire Bill Burton or at least demote him to licking envelopes? I'm a huge Obama supporter, but every quote I see from the guy leaves me dismayed. When any idiot can see that the situation calls for graciousness and restraint-the Republicans are about to nominate their first woman VP candidate for crying out loud-he's opening fire and engaging in the very knee-jerk politics that Obama has called on people to reject. Bill Burton: That's not the change we need; that's just more of the same.
Posted by: clear2d | August 29, 2008 11:23 PM | Report abuse
Look, this country needs to get back on a christian track, and this is the way to do it - not get some heathen faux-muslim with a name like the former dictator of a country that we are at war at. She is a conservative christian, and she will appoint more christians who will help us to overturn roe vs wade and much of the other liberalism from the radical 70's movement. She has had far more experience at running things than her opponents in the other party, and will help keep this country on the right, and help us to win this war against the government of iraq. Long live the republican party, and long live john mccain. Those of you who don't support john mccain are like those long-haired do-gooder pot-smoking hippy-beatnicks of the leftist 1960's and 1970's. We need to get back to conservative values.
Posted by: George Sanchez | August 29, 2008 11:12 PM | Report abuse
Can I say one thing about "experience," if you compare Palin's with Obama no contest. Let us look at this with clear eyes: Obama has 8 years in the IL Legislature, the State's biggest City, Chicago, has more people than the entire State of Alaska. Obama has almost 4 years in the Senate, has worked on National and International issues, including the Nuclear Weapons Proliferation Bill with Repuplican Dick Luger. Ms Palin was elected mayor in a tiny town north of Alaska, and now has been Governor for less than 2 years...she has no National experience, let alone International. I also just heard an OP-ED Writer with one of the Alaska papers; he had a luke-warm opinion of Mrs. Palin. We must remember that this woman will be one heart-beat (although with McCain turning 72 today, maybe half a heart-beat) away from the Presidency.
Posted by: radical_moderate | August 29, 2008 11:03 PM | Report abuse
Sorry, there was a little inaccuracy in my previous post. I wrote "less than two terms as governor of Alaska", when I meant to write "less than two years". Just goes to show folks, it's only going to get worse. "Stay tuned . . ." LOL
Posted by: Herculano Fecteau | August 29, 2008 11:01 PM | Report abuse
"Stay tuned for much more on the Palin pick . . ."
Much more indeed. What more is there to say? Two terms as mayor of West Bootybump, Alaska, population 6,715 (excuse me, Wasilla, rhymes with Magilla Gorilla). Less than two terms as Governor of Alaska. Still not sure global warming is "man-made", annoyed that polar bears have been listed as endangered because it threatens her support for oil drilling in the Alaska wildlife refuge, tried to promote the teaching of creationism in public schools, anti-choice even in cases of rape and incest (oo, that one's sure to pull in the disgruntled Hillary supporters). Whoa, almost neglected to mention -- head of the Alaska National Guard, B.A. in journalism and first runner-up in the Miss Alaska pageant. Now THERE'S a trump to Sen. Obama's law degrees from Columbia and Harvard, his presidency of the Harvard Law Review, and Joe Biden's twenty-plus years of experience in foreign affairs.
It's embarassing that this selection has even been foisted upon us as a (serious?) topic of discussion. The Bush/Cheney years may have turned this country into a world laughing stock and the focus of international disdain, but a McCain/Palin Administration would be beyond the pale. Great news for the Democrats, though. Go Obama/Biden 2008!
Posted by: Herculano Fecteau | August 29, 2008 10:46 PM | Report abuse
"Stay tuned for much more on the Palin pick . . ."
Much more indeed. What more is there to say? Two terms as mayor of West Bootybump, Alaska, population 6,715 (excuse me, Wasilla, rhymes with Magilla Gorilla). Less than two terms as Governor of Alaska. Still not sure global warming is "man-made", annoyed that polar bears have been listed as endangered because it threatens her support for oil drilling in the Alaska wildlife refuge, tried to promote the teaching of creationism in public schools, anti-choice even in cases of rape and incest (oo, that one's sure to pull in the disgruntled Hillary supporters). Whoa, almost neglected to mention -- head of the Alaska National Guard, B.A. in journalism and first runner-up in the Miss Alaska pageant. Now THERE'S a trump to Sen. Obama's law degrees from Columbia and Harvard, his presidency of the Harvard Law Review, and Joe Biden's twenty-plus years of experience in foreign affairs.
It's embarassing that this selection has even been foisted upon us as a (serious?) topic of discussion. The Bush/Cheney years may have turned this country into a world laughing stock and the focus of international disdain, but a McCain/Palin Administration would be beyond the pale. Great news for the Democrats, though. Go Obama/Biden 2008!
Posted by: Herculano Fecteau | August 29, 2008 10:45 PM | Report abuse
I want to point out that there are, on this board and in commentary everywhere today, the prolonged Democratic wail: how many times did he meet with her?
This odd question is pretty revealing, actually. Firstly, it reveals that the pundits and strategists all knew that McCain met with her once (well maybe another time secretly) and then apparently dismissed her.
I think it's obvious what this means -- and it doesn't mean that McCain was negligent in his selection process. McCain went through a long, drawn out, repeated-meeting and oft-talking courtship process WITH THE PEOPLE HE WAS MOST LIKELY NOT GOING TO PICK.
McCain totally faked out the Obama spies, machine and strategists. His faux, lengthy and apparently transparent courtship process that was so different than the murky, hyped Obama VP selection process, was a total misinformation campaign. McCain got the Obama machine to totally buy into a short list consisting of old white men and one young white guy, just by letting the spies be misled by his pattern of who he was having contact with.
McCain duped Obama into thinking that the Fall contest would be against a Republican ticket with two old white men on it. He suckered Obama into snubbing Hillary Clinton and spending the rest of the general election with the old, absurd, goofy Joe Biden hanging over his shoulder.
And McCain promptly picked up his own, larger-than-life, impassioned, admirable and cute ANNIE OAKLEY.
HA HA HA HA!
Posted by: AsperGirl | August 29, 2008 10:24 PM | Report abuse
Ah, the miracle of youtube Notice who sponsored for the ad.
Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 10:07 PM | Report abuse
Ah, the miracle of youtube Notice who sponsored for the ad.
Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 10:05 PM | Report abuse
What a sad testimonial about McCain. I guess I should be a pundit, because 2 days ago I mentioned after seeing HRC's speech, watch McSame pick a woman like Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin. My wife said, who the heck is Palin? I read about her not long ago and I thought about the pro-lifers and the disenchanted HRC supporters. Well, as a formally disenchanted HRC supporter, this is one more reason I won't vote for McCain. All that bellyaching about Obama's lack of experience, I have more experience then her. I'm a Viet Vet and I retired a GS-15 from the gov't, and I went to better schools. Oh I forgot, I'm not a right wing messianic Christian born again. Then again, McCain changed his faith when he
divorced his ex and married Cindy a month later in '80. Being I've had the same wife for 40 years, I guess I'm boring?
Posted by: Sean L. | August 29, 2008 9:50 PM | Report abuse
I can't believe the Democrats are going to use the "inexperinced" arguement when Mayor and Governor count as Executive experience, and being the head of the States National Guard gives her a one up on Obama.
And if I remember correctly, didn't the anti-war Obama pick a VP Candiate who voted for the war?
Posted by: dale | August 29, 2008 9:45 PM | Report abuse
I can't believe the Democrats are going to use the "inexperinced" arguement when Mayor and Governor count as Executive experience, and being the head of the States National Guard gives her a one up on Obama.
And if I remember correctly, didn't the anti-war Obama pick a VP Candiate who voted for the war?
Posted by: dale | August 29, 2008 9:43 PM | Report abuse
I can't believe the Democrats are going to use the "inexperinced" arguement when Mayor and Governor count as Executive experience, and being the head of the States National Guard gives her a one up on Obama.
And if I remember correctly, didn't the anti-war Obama pick a VP Candiate who voted for the war?
Posted by: dale | August 29, 2008 9:42 PM | Report abuse
unreal. we will see so many images of her with the other members of the AK delegation. yes, AK is beautiful, people are great, but the politics? Sketchy at best. She will be featured in photographs standing next to Ted and Don for the next two months, on an endless, so you better get used to it. Mad Mac, this is like you picked a human lime green background that no matter what, when you're standing with her, you will look sickly and old. what were your advisor's thinking?!
Posted by: PreAmeriKKKan | August 29, 2008 9:15 PM | Report abuse
Obviously, Gov. Sarah Palin is full of holes in her undies. And the Democrats will surely let the world know about it. However,
WHEN COMPARED TO SEN. BARAK OBAMA, SHE IS STILL MORE SUBSTANTIVE AND HONEST.
Plus, she is a woman, with five children ( I can tell you five children and a career at 44 years is a hell of a challenge).
Posted by: Roses | August 29, 2008 9:06 PM | Report abuse
So she's against pork, huh? Even if it meant opening up her home state to oil drilling? Something tells me she's a fraud.
And how in the hell is she the face of reform in the GOP? Actually, when you think about it, it makes perfect sense: "reform" is a foreign concept to the GOP, and so is she unknown.
Posted by: milo janus | August 29, 2008 8:46 PM | Report abuse
In the introduction this morning, one RNC handler noted that Alaska borders on Russia and Canada, therefore Gov Palin has international relations experience. What a stretch! It would be the same as claiming that a prisoner in Sing-Sing prison for 5-1/2 years is qualified to become the director of the FBI . . . or am I confusing being commander-in-chief after serving a long prison term?
Posted by: Clair Weiss | August 29, 2008 8:45 PM | Report abuse
I didn't like her when she first came on the scene here in Alaska, because I thought she was just a pretty face with big breasts. But over the years, she's won my respect, because I work in the oil industry also. She has demonstrated more inspired, wise, and genuine leadership than her short time in office suggests. I hope America manages to see this through the fog of politics and her not just being a hot bimbo for the NRP.
What I especially like about her leadership (boobies) is that she leads by doing, not just talking. (yawnnnnnn) And while she's willing to stick her own neck (boobs) out for what's right, she's also able to work with honest opponents to achieve pragmatic compromise. (zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz) She's the kind of leader a working democracy needs. mehhhhhhh.
It's clear to me, though, that Sarah is a Mom first, A Born Again Christian second, and a politician who doesn't know what the hell is going on. To me, that's about the highest compliment I could pay any politician (with big breasts). I want someone in office who cares more about people than politics. When I watched her (jiggle around) choose to keep Trig (her Down's syndrome child) sobbbbbbbbbbbbb.. snifff.. that pretty much sealed my approval of Sarah. It's one thing to say you're pro-retard. It's another to live it out with personal sacrifice and grace.
She has my vote - AND my boyfriends. Now, and when she runs for president in 2012.
P.S.: I saw her the other day (bong!!!!) when I was on my workout jog through the Glen Alps trailhead. She was doing a porn video shoot on the look-out over Anchorage, and we happened to be leaving at the same time. She walked right by me (double bong!!) with a couple of her retinue (wtf is this word?), but I didn't intrude. She drove herself down the mountain in a small sedan. I found myself just behind her, in a three-car procession. Kind of cool if you don't have a life, like me.
Posted by: Fig Newton | August 29, 2008 8:23 PM | Report abuse
I didn't like her when she first came on the scene here in Alaska, because I thought she was just a pretty face with big breasts. But over the years, she's won my respect, because I work in the oil industry also. She has demonstrated more inspired, wise, and genuine leadership than her short time in office suggests. I hope America manages to see this through the fog of politics and her not just being a hot bimbo for the NRP.
What I especially like about her leadership (boobies) is that she leads by doing, not just talking. (yawnnnnnn) And while she's willing to stick her own neck (boobs) out for what's right, she's also able to work with honest opponents to achieve pragmatic compromise. (zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz) She's the kind of leader a working democracy needs. mehhhhhhh.
It's clear to me, though, that Sarah is a Mom first, A Born Again Christian second, and a politician who doesn't know what the hell is going on. To me, that's about the highest compliment I could pay any politician (with big breasts). I want someone in office who cares more about people than politics. When I watched her (jiggle around) choose to keep Trig (her Down's syndrome child) sobbbbbbbbbbbbb.. snifff.. that pretty much sealed my approval of Sarah. It's one thing to say you're pro-retard. It's another to live it out with personal sacrifice and grace.
She has my vote - AND my boyfriends. Now, and when she runs for president in 2012.
P.S.: I saw her the other day (bong!!!!) when I was on my workout jog through the Glen Alps trailhead. She was doing a porn video shoot on the look-out over Anchorage, and we happened to be leaving at the same time. She walked right by me (double bong!!) with a couple of her retinue (wtf is this word?), but I didn't intrude. She drove herself down the mountain in a small sedan. I found myself just behind her in a three-car procession. Kind of cool. (i know im lame)
Posted by: Fig T. Newton | August 29, 2008 8:20 PM | Report abuse
I didn't like her when she first came on the scene here in Alaska, because I thought she was just a pretty face. But over the years, she's won my respect. She has demonstrated more inspired, wise, and genuine leadership than her short time in office suggests. I hope America manages to see this through the fog of politics.
What I especially like about her leadership is that she leads by doing, not just talking. And while she's willing to stick her own neck out for what's right, she's also able to work with honest opponents to achieve pragmatic compromise. She's the kind of leader a working democracy needs.
It's clear to me, though, that Sarah is a Mom first, and a politician second. To me, that's about the highest compliment I could pay any politician. I want someone in office who cares more about people than politics. When I watched her choose to keep Trig (her Down's syndrome child) that pretty much sealed my approval of Sarah. It's one thing to say you're pro-life. It's another to live it out with personal sacrifice and grace.
She has my vote - AND my wife's. Now, and when she runs for president in 2012.
P.S.: I saw her the other day when I was on my workout jog through the Glen Alps trailhead. She was doing a video shoot on the look-out over Anchorage, and we happened to be leaving at the same time. She walked right by me with a couple of her retinue, but I didn't intrude. She drove herself down the mountain in a small sedan. I found myself just behind her in a three-car procession. Kind of cool.
Posted by: T. Newton | August 29, 2008 8:15 PM | Report abuse
I didn't like her when she first came on the scene here in Alaska, because I thought she was just a pretty face. But over the years, she's won my respect. She has demonstrated more inspired, wise, and genuine leadership than her short time in office suggests. I hope America manages to see this through the fog of politics.
What I especially like about her leadership is that she leads by doing, not just talking. And while she's willing to stick her own neck out for what's right, she's also able to work with honest opponents to achieve pragmatic compromise. She's the kind of leader a working democracy needs.
It's clear to me, though, that Sarah is a Mom first, and a politician second. To me, that's about the highest compliment I could pay any politician. I want someone in office who cares more about people than politics. When I watched her choose to keep Trig (her Down's syndrome child) that pretty much sealed my approval of Sarah. It's one thing to say you're pro-life. It's another to live it out with personal sacrifice and grace.
She has my vote - AND my wife's. Now, and when she runs for president in 2012.
P.S.: I saw her the other day when I was on my workout jog through the Glen Alps trailhead. She was doing a video shoot on the look-out over Anchorage, and we happened to be leaving at the same time. She walked right by me with a couple of her retinue, but I didn't intrude. She drove herself down the mountain in a small sedan. I found myself just behind her in a three-car procession. Kind of cool.
Posted by: T. Newton | August 29, 2008 8:11 PM | Report abuse
I didn't like her when she first came on the scene here in Alaska, because I thought she was just a pretty face. But over the years, she's won my respect. She has demonstrated more inspired, wise, and genuine leadership than her short time in office suggests. I hope America manages to see this through the fog of politics.
What I especially like about her leadership is that she leads by doing, not just talking. And while she's willing to stick her own neck out for what's right, she's also able to work with honest opponents to achieve pragmatic compromise. She's the kind of leader a working democracy needs.
It's clear to me, though, that Sarah is a Mom first, and a politician second. To me, that's about the highest compliment I could pay any politician. I want someone in office who cares more about people than politics. When I watched her choose to keep Trig (her Down's syndrome child) that pretty much sealed my approval of Sarah. It's one thing to say you're pro-life. It's another to live it out with personal sacrifice and grace.
She has my vote - AND my wife's. Now, and when she runs for president in 2012.
P.S.: I saw her the other day when I was on my workout jog through the Glen Alps trailhead. She was doing a video shoot on the look-out over Anchorage, and we happened to be leaving at the same time. She walked right by me with a couple of her retinue, but I didn't intrude. She drove herself down the mountain in a small sedan. I found myself just behind her in a three-car procession. Kind of cool.
Posted by: T. Newton | August 29, 2008 8:10 PM | Report abuse
just think. if mccain died in office, our president would wear sparkly flag pins and claim foreign policy experience because her child is fighting in iraq.
the very fact that mccain did this to try to dupe disgruntled women voters to vote for him shows he has no capacity for understanding what smart educated women want in a presidental election and sarah palin is not it.
it is patronizing to the core that he would pick her over kay hutchinson or any other compentent woman senator. she is a puppet, a tool used by the party to try to lure voters over.
it won't work.
Posted by: kmh | August 29, 2008 8:09 PM | Report abuse
"I hope the Democratic party attacks her for be a mom of five and raising a family. Certainly motherhood that is not a job which gives a person any useful life experiences. Half the country will agree here. And a Down's child. Barak already knows that even if Trig survived an abortion on he should have beeen left in the pail. He's not cute like his girls."
hah ha hahha hha.. ha.. It's going to be great to see Trig hanging with George W. Bush when this lady does becomes VP. Finally, George W. Bush won't be the only retard in the White House.
Posted by: Summerfish | August 29, 2008 8:08 PM | Report abuse
The disaffected HRC supporters who flock to Govenor Palin will be rewarded with a Vice President who can win the ticket in 2012.
Posted by: BLT | August 29, 2008 8:04 PM | Report abuse
"When I watched her choose to keep Trig (her Down's syndrome child) that pretty much sealed my approval of Sarah."
P.S.: I saw her the other day when I was on my workout jog through the Glen Alps trailhead. She was doing a video shoot on the look-out over Anchorage, and we happened to be leaving at the same time. She walked right by me with a couple of her retinue, but I didn't intrude. She drove herself down the mountain in a small sedan. I found myself just behind her in a three-car procession. Kind of cool."
Posted by: t newton"
Wow. i never knew how lame talking points sounded until I visited this message board....both Republican and Democarat.
t newton might possibly the most unintersting person in the state of Alaska if he finds driving in a procession down a mountain is 'Kind of cool'.. omg these are hillarious..
Posted by: summerfish | August 29, 2008 8:00 PM | Report abuse
I hope that the Democratic party will attack her beauty pagent try. But they should check and see if Govenor Granholm of Michigan will sign on first to this devestating strategy. Of course we all recognise that politics bears no resemblance at all to a beauty contest just ask John( $400 Haircut) Edwards.
I hope the Democratic party attacks her for be a mom of five and raising a family. Certainly motherhood that is not a job which gives a person any useful life experiences. Half the country will agree here. And a Down's child. Barak already knows that even if Trig survived an abortion he should have beeen left in the pail. He's not cute like his girls.
I hope the Democratic party attacks her for being a small town mayor. That will send a good message to all who live in any hick town that their problems and management are neither complicated nor important. Only idiots and Republicans live in the country. Forget that the Senate numbers is 100 and the House 435. The 535 DC insiders constitute an entire universe of their own (Outsiders NOT Welcome).
I hope the Democratic Party attacks her for the stupid idea of running against her own party to root out corruption. Senator Obama was smart enough in Illinois not to do any thing so silly.He even still likes his indicted neighbor Tony Resko. That's Chicago for you.
Finally I hope that the Democratic party attacks her for her natural gas pipeline position. We dont need Alaska's stinging energy when we can inflate our tires (Bicycle tire) and pedal to work.
If the Democratic party listens to me together we can insure the future of our country and elect the best canidates possible for the presidency and vice presidency.
I hope you follow my advice
Posted by: RLT | August 29, 2008 7:59 PM | Report abuse
"Compare the tickets:
1.McCain:The most experienced politician on either side of the tickets this year
2.Biden:Second most experienced politician
3.Palin:Next most experienced politician but more executive experience and even the above two.
4.Obama:Least experienced with no executive experience what so ever"
bwwwwaahhhhhhhaaa haaaa haa ha ha.. this has to be the funniest thing i've read on the WaPo over the last month.. omg people.. i'm trying to catch my breath..keep them coming. .
Posted by: summerfish | August 29, 2008 7:50 PM | Report abuse
How many times has McCain met with Palin before this election? Where do they stand together on policy? Why does he think they can govern together? How can we have a V.P. that is just "not really interested in Iraq"? Why does McCain think that out of all the people in this country, Palin would be his pick for President of the United States, other then him? Where is the concern for the United States of America? When is Sen. McCain going to start running a campaign for Sen. McCain, not attacking Obama, or finding the biggest sideshow to sell?
Posted by: Confused | August 29, 2008 7:26 PM | Report abuse
Way to pitch some campaign talking points there T. Newton.
Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 7:24 PM | Report abuse
I didn't like her when she first came on the scene here in Alaska, because I thought she was just a pretty face. But over the years, she's won my respect. She has demonstrated more inspired, wise, and genuine leadership than her short time in office suggests. I hope America manages to see this through the fog of politics.
What I especially like about her leadership is that she leads by doing, not just talking. And she's willing to stick her own neck out for what's right, yet able to work with honest opponents to achieve pragmatic compromise. She's the kind of leader a working democracy needs.
It's clear to me, though, that Sarah is a Mom first, and a politician second. To me, that's about the highest compliment I could pay anyone. I want someone in office who cares more about people than politics. When I watched her choose to keep Trig (her Down's syndrome child) that pretty much sealed my approval of Sarah. It's one thing to say you're pro-life. It's another to live it out with personal sacrifice and grace.
She has the vote of this male WASP and his wife. Now, and when she runs for president in 2012.
P.S.: I saw her the other day when I was on my workout jog through the Glen Alps trailhead. She was doing a video shoot on the look-out over Anchorage, and we happened to be leaving at the same time. She walked right by me with a couple of her retinue, but I didn't intrude. She drove herself down the mountain in a small sedan. I found myself just behind her in a three-car procession. Kind of cool.
Posted by: T. Newton | August 29, 2008 7:14 PM | Report abuse
By the way, Palin, 16 months as Governor, mayor of a city with a population of 6,500. Sen. Obama, 8 years in State Senate, 3 years in national Senate, Harvard law degree. Palin has a B.A. in journalism. Not quite the same 'experience'.
Posted by: Confused | August 29, 2008 7:12 PM | Report abuse
she is prettier than Joe Biden. I will give her that. But what exactly is different about a pro-life, pro-NRA Republican? Just because she has given birth to children?
I sincerely hope that the PUMAs recognize the patronizing insult to their intelligence in picking Palin simply because she is a woman.
Posted by: Ann | August 29, 2008 7:10 PM | Report abuse
I didn't like her when she first came on the scene here in Alaska, because I thought she was just a pretty face. But over the years, she's won my respect. She has demonstrated more inspired, wise, and genuine leadership than her short time in office suggests. I hope America manages to see this through the fog of politics.
What I especially like about her leadership is that she leads by doing, not just talking. And she's willing to stick her own neck out for what's right, yet able to work with honest opponents to achieve pragmatic compromise. She's the kind of leader a working democracy needs.
It's clear to me, though, that Sarah is a Mom first, and a politician second. To me, that's about the highest compliment I could pay anyone. I want someone in office who cares more about people than politics. When I watched her choose to keep Trig (her Down's syndrome child) that pretty much sealed my approval of Sarah. It's one thing to say you're pro-life. It's another to live it out with personal sacrifice and grace.
She has the vote of this male WASP and his wife. Now, and when she runs for president in 2012.
P.S.: I saw her the other day when I was on my workout jog through the Glen Alps trailhead. She was doing a video shoot on the look-out over Anchorage, and we happened to be leaving at the same time. She walked right by me with a couple of her retinue, but I didn't intrude. She drove herself down the mountain in a small sedan. I found myself just behind her in a three-car procession. Kind of cool.
Posted by: t newton | August 29, 2008 7:09 PM | Report abuse
How many times has McCain met with Palin before this election? Where do they stand together on policy? Why does he think they can govern together? How can we have a V.P. that is just "not really interested in Iraq"? Why does McCain think that out of all the people in this country, Palin would be his pick for President of the United States, other then him? Where is the concern for the United States of America? When is Sen. McCain going to start running a campaign for Sen. McCain, not attacking Obama, or finding the biggest sideshow to sell?
Posted by: Confused | August 29, 2008 7:01 PM | Report abuse
Brilliant choice.She has more experience than Obama who many people are willing to accept for the highest office in the land.I would say running a state givesa person far more management shills than working in the senate for the same amount of time. She isa reformer, will attract the Woman's vote counteracts Mccain's age factor.The other point is that on the world stage women as international leaders tend to be very good, Maggie Thatcher, Angela Merkel, Golda Meier, Mrs. Ghandi etc. They are less prone to rushes of blood to the head that their opposite sex seems to suffer from sometime.
Providing there is "nasty in the woodshed" which can be uncovered by the gutter dwellers then I think she will be the election winning catalyst for McCain.
Posted by: B I Jones | August 29, 2008 6:52 PM | Report abuse
Karl Rove on the VP Choice:
"I think he's going to make an intensely political choice, not a governing choice...He's going to view this through the prism of a candidate, not through the prism of president; that is to say, he's going to pick somebody that he thinks will on the margin help him in a state like Indiana or Missouri or Virginia. He's not going to be thinking big and broad about the responsibilities of president."
-Said Karl Rove, anticipating Obama would select Gov Tim Kaine as his VP
"With all due respect again to Governor Kaine, he's been a governor for three years, he's been able but undistinguished. I don't think people could really name a big, important thing that he's done. He was mayor of the 105th largest city in America. So if he were to pick Governor Kaine, it would be an intensely political choice where he said, `You know what? I'm really not, first and foremost, concerned with, is this person capable of being president of the United States? What I'm concerned about is, can he bring me the electoral votes of the state of Virginia, the 13 electoral votes in Virginia?'"
So if Kaine was a horrible choice that would put politics ahead of the good of the nation, what does this say about the Palin selection? Less experinece than Kaine (3 yrs gov vs less than 2), gov of a smaller state, mayor of a smaller city than Kaine (Richmond, VA vs Wasilla, AK), etc.
Rove says so himself, McCain made a political, rather than a governing choice.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/08/10/ftn/main4336134.shtml
Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 6:49 PM | Report abuse
Experience??? Bush was Gov. of Texas and then had four years on the job training in the White House and look at the wonderful job he's done in the last 4 years ! All that "experience" got him a 27%
approval rating as well as the most unpopular President of all time.
Give me O B A M A !
Posted by: billy | August 29, 2008 6:40 PM | Report abuse
Picking Palin was not about attracting disgruntled Clinton supporters. McCain just figured out his attacks on Obama's "celebrity" have stopped working, and plans to change the subject to abortion.
Posted by: John Q. | August 29, 2008 6:38 PM | Report abuse
Far too many of the posts here violate the rules established by the Post. Who, pray tell, is minding the store? Anonymity and pseudonyms deny a fundamental premise of liberal democracy that both voters and officials must display mutual accountability to one another. As a long time public educator, now retired but still performing lots of voluntary public service, far too many of the postings here underscore the desperate need to improve education in America, uncomfortable evidence, of a career spent, in some measure, vainly. Mea culpa!
Posted by: Hendrik Gideonse | August 29, 2008 6:35 PM | Report abuse
"Yes Palin is a woman, but where is she on women's issues? She is pro-life and therefore unlikely to tap the pro-choice voters who would form a significant bloc of Clinton voters"
I've been meaning to ask this. Do polls suggest that women strongly favor pro-choice? Anecdotally, this has not been my experience. I find it about 50% on each side just from asking around.
Posted by: DDAWD | August 29, 2008 6:32 PM | Report abuse
What really gets me is how Grampy McCain got absolutely HOSED by Bush, PUNK'D, both in the Repub primaries (South Carolina 2000, anyone?), then by adopting the lapdog cheerleader role so he could get Bush's base and then. . . voila! no base!!! McCain gets stuck instead with the worst economy, the worst foreign policy, the worst . . . I mean, there's only abject, misereable, putrid failure, as far as the eye can see! McCain gets slathered with the broadest brush of unholy loserdom imagineable.
No one. Especially McCain. Would have thought that the George Bush Republican brand would be so rancid in 2008. And that's what McCain's got now. Timing is everything..."my friends".
Posted by: Bu$h Wacked | August 29, 2008 6:27 PM | Report abuse
John McCain's picking Sarah Palin offers an interesting contrast with Barack Obama's selection of Joe Biden. Both candidates are purported to have some sort of base problem and had to choose between picking a VP who would shore up the base or picking a VP who would appeal to independents -- a Solomon's choice if ever there was one. Which group do you work harder to court? Do you go with the "base" pick to ensure you keep the party regulars, but risk alienating middle-of-the-road voters? Or do you go with the pick who appeals to independents, risking the loss of formerly reliable voters who are now disillusioned?
Obama, supposedly, could have "united" the party by picking Hillary Clinton, at least to her her supporters tell it. But picking Clinton meant energizing Republicans to vote against the Democratic ticket in a year when the Democrats stand to pick up a decent chunk of the Republican voting block due to George W. Bush's unpopularity, and in the end, Obama went with Biden. McCain, on the other hand, elected to go with the "base" pick, ensuring the Christian right elements of the party would be satisfied but taking a gamble that independent voters wouldn't be put off by Palin's cookie-cutter conservative image.
It's actually kind of ironic that the candidates made the choices they did, since conservatives are typically far more likely to vote for an unpopular Republican candidate with the "at least he isn't as bad as the other guy!" justification, whereas liberals are more likely to eschew an unpopular Democrat to prove a point.
On a side note, every time I see that "The Palin Stunner" headline on this blog post, I have to laugh. "The Palin Stunner" just sounds like a wrestling move, doesn't it? "STONE COLD! STONE COLD! STONE COLD! IS GOING TO THE WHITE HOUSE!"
Posted by: VBArthur | August 29, 2008 6:22 PM | Report abuse
We all know that McCain has a thing for younger attractive women. He dumped his wife when her auto accident made her unattractive, after he had affairs with younger women and managed to come up with a really rich one. But Cindy is not the young beauty she once was; Cindy's money is useless to him now, because he is taking the public financing; and Palin is the attractive younger woman he really needs now. So we should all be wondering -- does Cindy have something to worry about?
Posted by: McCain's Floozies | August 29, 2008 6:16 PM | Report abuse
The level of the demeaning comments proffered by the liberals and the "Followers" speaks volumes about one central point about the selection of Governor Palin : they know they have a huge problem now. It is so blindingly obvious. They put on airs but they don't like it a bit.
Posted by: Styder55 | August 29, 2008 6:14 PM | Report abuse
I'm sure that he could have found a better woman to run as his VP, assuming that he picked a woman just to appease women voters who were upset over Hillary or who were thinking that there is a political glass-ceiling.
But on that note, why not a black woman.
Surely there's a black woman out there who is anti-abortion, also a solid right right-wing Republican, who also has a good experience in office?
I mean if he's willing to go to Alaska to get a VP pick, what about the lower 48 states? Nothing there?
Couldn't find a single one?
Posted by: jfc1 | August 29, 2008 6:09 PM | Report abuse
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Posted by: 37th&OStreet | August 29, 2008 6:08 PM | Report abuse
Palin is really a Republican after Karl Rove's own blackened tar pit heart - she's a product of the party that produced the indicted Ted Stevens and ethically tarred Don Young, and she's embroiled in a Troopergate scandal of her own, with state investigators looking at serious allegations that Palin abused her office by pressuring the state Public Safety Commissioner to fire "an Alaska state trooper involved in a rough divorce from Palin's sister." Sounds like a woman after Karl Rove's black tar pit colored heart.
http://www.adn.com/monegan/story/478090.html
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In addition to further associating McCain with the Republican culture of corruption, the Palin pick undermines one of his main anti-Obama narratives. It's going to be laughable to hear McCain assail Obama's supposed lack of experience after naming the first-term governor -- only one-and-a-half years into her term -- of the 47th largest state to be his running mate. Palin lacks any foreign policy experience, and is bereft of even the two core areas of policy expertise that governors are supposed to bring to a ticket -- ag policy (Alaska doesn't have much in the way of traditional agriculture) and urban affairs (Anchorage is the 65th largest city in the US, behind giants such as Corpus Christi). She's easily the least experienced running mate in recent memory, which is pretty scary, given McCain's age and his history of cancer.
Posted by: Bush + Cheney = McCain | August 29, 2008 6:06 PM | Report abuse
"Yes Palin is a woman, but where is she on women's issues? She is pro-life and therefore unlikely to tap the pro-choice voters who would form a significant bloc of Clinton voters"
I've been meaning to ask this. Do polls suggest that women strongly favor pro-choice? Anecdotally, this has not been my experience. I find it about 50% on each side just from asking around.
Posted by: DDAWD | August 29, 2008 6:04 PM | Report abuse
By picking Palin, McCain revealed his desperation to make a splash to rival the genuine excitement generated by the Obama campaign. But desperation leads to poor decisions -- and McCain's Hail Mary, like most last second desperation moves, is destined to fail miserably. He's smeared himself with the pungent mud of Alaska Republican corruption (Ted Stevens, Don Young) while cutting the legs out from one of his most reliable attacks against Obama. And he's presented Americans with the prospect of electing a dangerous neophyte to be a heartbeat away from the presidency, behind a man (McCain) whose life expectancy is less than two presidential terms.
We all expected McCain to pick someone underwhelming to run with him. But we never could have expected a pick worse than Quayle. Yet that's what we got. Thanks, John!
Posted by: Carol | August 29, 2008 6:03 PM | Report abuse
Palin looks and talks like a winner...way to go !
Posted by: Somar 73 | August 29, 2008 6:03 PM | Report abuse
McCain just made things easier for Hillary2012.Its possible that he wont run for a second term.If Palin run in 2012,democrats will be forced to field Hillary!
Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 6:00 PM | Report abuse
"Yes Palin is a woman, but where is she on women's issues? She is pro-life and therefore unlikely to tap the pro-choice voters who would form a significant bloc of Clinton voters"
I've been meaning to ask this. Do polls suggest that women strongly favor pro-choice? Anecdotally, this has not been my experience. I find it about 50% on each side just from asking around.
Posted by: DDAWD | August 29, 2008 5:59 PM | Report abuse
By picking Palin, McCain revealed his desperation to make a splash to rival the genuine excitement generated by the Obama campaign. But desperation leads to poor decisions -- and McCain's Hail Mary, like most last second desperation moves, is destined to fail miserably. He's smeared himself with the pungent mud of Alaska Republican corruption (Ted Stevens, Don Young) while cutting the legs out from one of his most reliable attacks against Obama. And he's presented Americans with the prospect of electing a dangerous neophyte to be a heartbeat away from the presidency, behind a man (McCain) whose life expectancy is less than two presidential terms.
We all expected McCain to pick someone underwhelming to run with him. But we never could have expected a pick worse than Quayle. Yet that's what we got. Thanks, John!
Posted by: Carol | August 29, 2008 5:58 PM | Report abuse
Compare the tickets:
1.McCain:The most experienced politician on either side of the tickets this year
2.Biden:Second most experienced politician
3.Palin:Next most experienced politician but more executive experience and even the above two.
4.Obama:Least experienced with no executive experience what so ever
Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 5:55 PM | Report abuse
TO: Anonymous who wrote: "She is going to get laughed out of the room if she tries to discuss anything of substance "
Frankly, that's how I think she got "in" in the first place: McStupid thought she was a funny response to the Democrats.
Seems like McSame feels he doesn't need any stinkin V.P. and he probably couldn't find any Republicans that haven't either had an affair, or have some oil stock, or have stock in military hardware.
By the way, if any Republican out there has any idea of how we're going to pay China back for all the money we borrowed from it for the 2 wars, could you please let me know? Looks like Georgie is just going to walk right out the front door and leave it to be somebody else's problem.
Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 5:55 PM | Report abuse
This is an insult to feminists, women in general, and Hilary Clinton in particular.
Women are not idiots, women do not think just any woman will do. Women of any political inclination should reject this nonsensical choice. Any feminist who is upset enough about Hilary Clinton's rejection by the Democrats to vote for a ticket whose main interest is killing pro-choice is voting against her own interest and that of all women. Phooey. And what an insult to think to substitute a small time inexperienced woman for a serious and experienced politician like Ms. Clinton!
Posted by: Lucy Wollin | August 29, 2008 5:50 PM | Report abuse
I'm sure that he could have found a better woman to run as his VP, assuming that he picked a woman just to appease women voters who were upset over Hillary or who were thinking that there is a political glass-ceiling.
But on that note, why not a black woman.
Surely there's a black woman out there who is anti-abortion, also a solid right right-wing Republican, who also has a good experience in office?
I mean if he's willing to go to Alaska to get a VP pick, what about the lower 48 states? Nothing there?
Couldn't find a single one?
Posted by: jfc1 | August 29, 2008 5:49 PM | Report abuse
Obama has not sought my vote, and McCain has.
Posted by: Hillaryin2012
Just how aggressively do you want to be courted? You'd prefer the GOP pick a woman for the sake of her gender rather than a male who has pledged to recover and protect your civil rights? That's 'seeking' enough for me.
Posted by: deeppeace | August 29, 2008 5:48 PM | Report abuse
By picking Palin, McCain revealed his desperation to make a splash to rival the genuine excitement generated by the Obama campaign. But desperation leads to poor decisions -- and McCain's Hail Mary, like most last second desperation moves, is destined to fail miserably. He's smeared himself with the pungent mud of Alaska Republican corruption (Ted Stevens, Don Young) while cutting the legs out from one of his most reliable attacks against Obama. And he's presented Americans with the prospect of electing a dangerous neophyte to be a heartbeat away from the presidency, behind a man (McCain) whose life expectancy is less than two presidential terms.
We all expected McCain to pick someone underwhelming to run with him. But we never could have expected a pick worse than Quayle. Yet that's what we got. Thanks, John!
Posted by: Carol | August 29, 2008 5:47 PM | Report abuse
This is an insult to feminists, women in general, and Hilary Clinton in particular.
Women are not idiots, women do not think just any woman will do. Women of any political inclination should reject this nonsensical choice. Any feminist who is upset enough about Hilary Clinton's rejection by the Democrats to vote for a ticket whose main interest is killing pro-choice is voting against her own interest and that of all women. Phooey. And what an insult to think to substitute a small time inexperienced woman for a serious and experienced politician like Ms. Clinton!
Posted by: Lucy Wollin | August 29, 2008 5:46 PM | Report abuse
Obama has not sought my vote, and McCain has.
Posted by: Hillaryin2012
Just how aggressively do you want to be courted? You'd prefer the GOP pick a woman for the sake of her gender rather than a male who has pledged to recover and protect your civil rights? That's 'seeking' enough for me.
Posted by: deeppeace | August 29, 2008 5:45 PM | Report abuse
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Posted by: 37th&OStreet | August 29, 2008 5:44 PM | Report abuse
This is an insult to feminists, women in general, and Hilary Clinton in particular.
Women are not idiots, women do not think just any woman will do. Women of any political inclination should reject this nonsensical choice. Any feminist who is upset enough about Hilary Clinton's rejection by the Democrats to vote for a ticket whose main interest is killing pro-choice is voting against her own interest and that of all women. Phooey.
Posted by: Lucy Wollin | August 29, 2008 5:44 PM | Report abuse
Pander! Pander! Pander! This was a great choice by McCain to win the political news cycle for the next 14 days but a very poor choice that will cost him the election.
The McCain campaign has really dropped the "political football" with selecting Palin as VP. As I watched CNN, MSNBC, and FOX news this morning when McCain announced Palin as his VP, I saw false enthusiasm on the part of many GOP strategists and poor Senator Kay Bailey Hutchinson sounded indifferent to Palin.
One of the best arguments McCain had against Obama was that of inexperience but now McCain has hurt himself by selecting an even younger and lesser experienced candidate (regardless of how cute she is).
If McCain thinks he will win Hillary supporters by putting a younger former Alaskan beauty pageant contestant with 5 kids and is to the far right of John McCain and whose political experience comprised of presiding over a population of less than 5,000 people up until January of 2007, he truly is desperate and a "woman user".
Posted by: Obama-Junkie | August 29, 2008 5:44 PM | Report abuse
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Posted by: 37th&OStreet | August 29, 2008 5:44 PM | Report abuse
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37th&OStreet Endorses Governor Sarah Palin for Vice President of the United States !
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Posted by: 37th&OStreet | August 29, 2008 5:43 PM | Report abuse
Obama has not sought my vote, and McCain has.
Posted by: Hillaryin2012
Just how aggressively do you want to be courted? You'd prefer the GOP pick a woman for the sake of her gender rather than a male who has pledged to recover and protect your civil rights? That's 'seeking' enough for me.
Posted by: deeppeace | August 29, 2008 5:43 PM | Report abuse
As an Independent who has yet to make up my mind, i am blown away first by those who seem to think repeating Barack Obamas middle name over and over will somehow scare me or change my mind. In my mind those who chose to BHO or Barack Hussein Obama are closet racists. So what if his middle name is Hussein? And secondly this talk about in experience. Wasnt George W. Bush touted as having experience in governing and how being the first MBA president would be in his and the country's favor? All i have seen from his experience is favors for big business, trampling on the constitution, starting a war with a country that didnt attack us instead of going after the miscreants that attacked our great land. And his MBA credentials sure came in handy, biggest debt ever racked up by a sitting president. So think about his actions before you start touting someones experience....
Posted by: Independent | August 29, 2008 5:43 PM | Report abuse
This is an insult to feminists, women in general, and Hilary Clinton in particular.
Women are not idiots, women do not think just any woman will do. Women of any political inclination should reject this nonsensical choice. Any feminist who is upset enough about Hilary Clinton's rejection by the Democrats to vote for a ticket whose main interest is killing pro-choice is voting against her own interest and that of all women. Phooey.
Posted by: Lucy Wollin | August 29, 2008 5:43 PM | Report abuse
By picking Palin, McCain revealed his desperation to make a splash to rival the genuine excitement generated by the Obama campaign. But desperation leads to poor decisions -- and McCain's Hail Mary, like most last second desperation moves, is destined to fail miserably. He's smeared himself with the pungent mud of Alaska Republican corruption (Ted Stevens, Don Young) while cutting the legs out from one of his most reliable attacks against Obama. And he's presented Americans with the prospect of electing a dangerous neophyte to be a heartbeat away from the presidency, behind a man (McCain) whose life expectancy is less than two presidential terms.
We all expected McCain to pick someone underwhelming to run with him. But we never could have expected a pick worse than Quayle. Yet that's what we got. Thanks, John!
Posted by: Carol | August 29, 2008 5:42 PM | Report abuse
Will Hillary voters really be stupid enough to fall for this one?
Yes Palin is a woman, but where is she on women's issues? She is pro-life and therefore unlikely to tap the pro-choice voters who would form a significant bloc of Clinton voters
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HRC supporters are not voting mac because he picked Palin. As it was, only 1/2 of them were in favor of Nobama (Nob) anyway. WIth this pick, Mac makes it easier for more HRC supporters to switch allegiances, and to outright vote his ticket, as opposed to sitting home.
You Noba supporting gutter rats have no clue about the depth of anger that many HRC supporters feel at the disgraceful manner in which Nob stole the nomination, and then treated her in the Veppstakes.
Now, for many HRC supporters (well, can only speak for myself, but polls show I am not alone), it is ABN (anyone but Nob)
Posted by: intcamd1 | August 29, 2008 5:42 PM | Report abuse
This is an insult to feminists, women in general, and Hilary Clinton in particular.
Women are not idiots, women do not think just any woman will do. Women of any political inclination should reject this nonsensical choice. Any feminist who is upset enough about Hilary Clinton's rejection by the Democrats to vote for a ticket whose main interest is killing pro-choice is voting against her own interest and that of all women. Phooey.
Posted by: Lucy Wollin | August 29, 2008 5:39 PM | Report abuse
where is the truth squad?
Palin says she fights big oil? She is suing the Federal Government to keep polar bears off the endangered species list so Alaska has a better shot at getting a pipeline!
And what is this nonsense about smoking pot before it was made illegal in Alaska. DID SHE SMOKE POT BEFORE ALASKA WAS A STATE???
Under federal law, marijuana is treated like every other controlled substance, such as cocaine and heroin. The federal government places every controlled substance in a schedule, in principle according to its relative potential for abuse and medicinal value. Under the CSA, marijuana is classified as a Schedule I drug, which means that the federal government views marijuana as highly addictive and having no medical value. Doctors may not "prescribe" marijuana for medical use under federal law.
Posted by: jersey john | August 29, 2008 5:39 PM | Report abuse
I'm sure that he could have found a better woman to run as his VP, assuming that he picked a woman just to appease women voters who were upset over Hillary or who were thinking that there is a political glass-ceiling.
But on that note, why not a black woman.
Surely there's a black woman out there who is anti-abortion, also a solid right right-wing Republican, who also has a good experience in office?
I mean if he's willing to go to Alaska to get a VP pick, what about the lower 48 states? Nothing there?
Couldn't find a single one?
Posted by: jfc1 | August 29, 2008 5:37 PM | Report abuse
Maybe it just me, but doesn't this woman have about the same amount of experience and about the same age as Barack?
OBAMA = PALIN
Now the real question, which ones running for PRESIDENT?
Posted by: JohnW | August 29, 2008 5:34 PM | Report abuse
"Sarah Palin is a mom who protected the life of Trig Palin, a Down's syndrome baby who both of these guys would have killed. I am looking forward to these debates."
Just so you know, something like 90% of Down Syndrome fetuses are aborted. Ms. Palin might not want to become too self-righteous on the topic. There are a lot of people who disagree with her.
Posted by: DDAWD | August 29, 2008 5:34 PM | Report abuse
"Sarah Palin is a mom who protected the life of Trig Palin, a Down's syndrome baby who both of these guys would have killed. I am looking forward to these debates."
Just so you know, something like 90% of Down Syndrome fetuses are aborted. Ms. Palin might not want to become too self-righteous on the topic. There are a lot of people who disagree with her.
Posted by: DDAWD | August 29, 2008 5:33 PM | Report abuse
...you gotta be kidding.
Why not Cindy Sheehan? Why not...Hillary herself?
Even if you're going to hand the VP nomination to a Republican woman to exploit the Hillary issue, this is the best that he could do? Jesus f-ing christ is this what American presidential politics have come down to? Two US Senators pretending to be washington outsiders, two women -one a US senator, the other a state govenor- pretending to be hampered by a glass ceiling?
So apparently they are all entitled to the White House because they are Washington outsiders, "mavericks", "agents of change" and women?
I guess they're going to just walk into D.C., take the Senate and House by the horns, whip 'em into shape and get the US economy up and roaring like a steam-engine! Somehow doing a better job of it than GW has done, over the past 8 years, all while being a serious contrarian and having the whole Republican party under his thumb. These guys are going to go *against* the Establishment and accomplish something?
All that McCain is doing is saying that that he will be a political eunuch in D.C. and that his VP will have even less experience and even less support on the Hill than he does right now. Obama has the outsider card sewn-up but at least he can count on the support of his party, which, by the way, has a growing majority in Congress this election.
Posted by: jfc1 | August 29, 2008 5:28 PM | Report abuse
After reading more nauseating comments than I should have,I would like to state that I am thrilled and sickened to see democracy at work.I am thrilled by the process and I am sickened by a large 'blogging' portion of the populace-Democrats and Republicans.
I am a Democrat.I will vote Obama-Biden.To you hapless and self-serving right leaning Republicans(which do not represent all Republicans),Democrats do not fear McCain's VP choice;we welcome it.To you overly left-leaning Democrats(which do not represent all Democrats),lay off the sexist,shallow,and effusive comments about Governor Palin.
Let the process play out.This no time to denigrate anyone...it never is.The stakes are extremely high this election cycle.The respective tickets are now in place.Let each party make its case and let the electorate make its choice.
Remember,fellow patriots,this is one nation under GOD,not under the Democrat or Republican parties.We all need to be mindful of our spiritual mandate to pray for all of those in public leadership roles...from the President of the United States to the Mayor of Wasilla.
I do not mean to infringe on anyone's 1st amendment rights...this is a free country.I'm appealing to our best senses as Americans to take the choice before us with reverence and seriousness.The gutter-talk and arrogance from so many disturbs me.I hope we can rise above a 'partisan potty-mouth' mentality and maintain a sense of decorum and mutual respect.Our country will be better off if we do this.
Let freedom ring!
Posted by: Sir Realist | August 29, 2008 5:26 PM | Report abuse
I don't believe this is accurate journalism:
"On the other, picking Palin complicates the argument forwarded by McCain that Obama's short resume makes him ill-equipped to be commander in chief. ...McCain will be hard pressed to argue that experience in public life is a critical component of serving in national office."
Sarah Palin is not running for President, so she is not running for Commander in Chief.
Barack Obama is running for President and John Mccain is running for President, so THEY are running for Commander in Chief.
BHO has less experience than Sarah Palin.
BHO has less experience than John McCain.
BHO has less experience than Joe Biden.
So, the Democrat running for President has the least experience to run for Commander in Chief.
And the Democrat running at the top of the ticket has the least experience of anyone on either ticket to run for national office.
They are two separate things, and Sarah Palin is the candidate for VP, not the candidate for POTUS.
Let's not blur the lines here, just because The One asks the MSM to blur the lines.
Posted by: Jan | August 29, 2008 5:25 PM | Report abuse
Looking around the web for something about Palin, as I know almost nothing about her, and found this video on the "trooper-case" - with a couple of on-camera contradictions from Palin...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKNJ6bfBfIk
Although not in her demographic (I like nature, peace, and reason), I think she might appeal to a rather broad swing-state base...
Posted by: Andy | August 29, 2008 5:23 PM | Report abuse
I'm fascinated by the belief 2 years of executive experience in a state with a population 20 times smaller than the state of Illinois qualifies anyone to be one step away from the presidency of the United States.
By this standard, the CEO of Walmart is far more qualified for the position since there are 3 times more employees there than citizens in Alaska, budgets to balance, and equivalent foreign policy experience.
Let's be honest. This is all about getting women to vote for McCain. It's pretty insulting to think the only thing which you need to earn a woman's vote is a pair of x-chromosomes.
What is so Maverick about being a pandering politician?
Posted by: elaine | August 29, 2008 5:20 PM | Report abuse
We shouldn't overlook the fact that no abortions means more Republicans.
That is NOT good news.
Where DID Republicans originally come from anyway?
Flanders?
Belgium?
South Africa?
Oh, sorry, wrong planet.
Let me try again . . . . . .
By the way, Chris, the yawning masses are hardly "stunned" by this choice.
First you have to be awake in order to be stunned.
I don't see anybody looking stunned around here.
Posted by: wardropper | August 29, 2008 5:18 PM | Report abuse
Bad pick.
It shows that McCain thinks American women are stupid. Oh, she's a woman so I'll vote for her? Forget the fact that she is the completely opposite from the issues that support women, children, healthcare and the environment. The "Wolf Killer" is a really bad pick.
Posted by: Joe Fletcher | August 29, 2008 5:16 PM | Report abuse
McCain clearly thinks the Palin pick is the double whammy: he will pick up those crazy Hillary supporters that will vote strictly on the basis of an ovarian presence in the White House and he will solidify the evangelical Christian population, or as McCain called in 2000, "agents of tolerance." To this I say, as Obama said about Iraq, that this pick was a major strategic blunder. Not only has the argument about Obama's inexperience taken a serious blow; I can't wait for Tucker Bounds' carefully worded statements declaring that Obama is possibly the most naive and incompetent person ever while leaving the door open the Palin doesn't fit into his ridiculous argument. He has also picked someone with NO economic experience despite the fact that he admittedly doesn't know the issue as well as she should. Does McCain think she is going to shoot guns, hate abortion, and rape the pristine Alaskan land to fix the economy? A sidenote: there is no way that people should believe Palin is a maverick. She was a mayor of a town of 5000 people! She ran on reform in corrupt Alaska, which is what you should do if you want to win an election. Of course, within 2 years of the governorship, she's being investigated.
The last point is simple: just as you can out-tancredo Tancredo on immigration, you can't out-change Obama. People that have tried this tactic inevitably fail. The only way that McCain could win this election is if he or VP knew anything about the economy paired with the predictable fear/soft on terrorism/ crazy islamofascist card that the GOP attempt every year (POW card added to the mix this year).
This pick is almost as bad as Harriet Myers nomination for the Supreme Court, but Palin is much better looking
Posted by: word | August 29, 2008 5:13 PM | Report abuse
PTA Palin! Wow you have to love putting the PTA experience into the VP announcement speech! Obama and Biden must be quaking in their boots. Who was the real VP pick if Obama chose Clinton. Mitt the Haircut?
To attack Palin Obama/Biden don't have to go for the jugular, that would make them look like bullies. It looked like McCain was introducing his granddaughter rather than his right hand(wo)man. If they want to make hay they will need to concentrate not on Palin the person, but to show that she is in fact not a huge advocate for women or women's issues.
Posted by: Mike | August 29, 2008 5:12 PM | Report abuse
"McCain will raise $100M in the next month"
Especially important- seeing as he's committed to public financing and is stuck with the $84 mil....
"John McCain is very wise. When the debates start Obama's camp cannot point that fact out."
No, the point is McCain can't claim Obama's inexperienced, which is the only thing they've been running on for two months. What are they supposed to run on now? the 72-year old who has been in Washington for 26 years and voted with Bush 95% of the time will be the one best positioned to bring about change in Washington?
I stil think so many people are missing the worst attribute of Palin on the trail: she may look too good. Look at the pics of her standing next to McCain at today's event. He looks like he could be her grandfather for gods sake! It all just serves to remind us how old McCain really is.
Posted by: kreuz_missile | August 29, 2008 5:10 PM | Report abuse
McCain clearly thinks the Palin pick is the double whammy: he will pick up those crazy Hillary supporters that will vote strictly on the basis of an ovarian presence in the White House and he will solidify the evangelical Christian population, or as McCain called in 2000, "agents of tolerance." To this I say, as Obama said about Iraq, that this pick was a major strategic blunder. Not only has the argument about Obama's inexperience taken a serious blow; I can't wait for Tucker Bounds' carefully worded statements declaring that Obama is possibly the most naive and incompetent person ever while leaving the door open the Palin doesn't fit into his ridiculous argument. He has also picked someone with NO economic experience despite the fact that he admittedly doesn't know the issue as well as she should. Does McCain think she is going to shoot guns, hate abortion, and rape the pristine Alaskan land to fix the economy? A sidenote: there is no way that people should believe Palin is a maverick. She was a mayor of a town of 5000 people! She ran on reform in corrupt Alaska, which is what you should do if you want to win an election. Of course, within 2 years of the governorship, she's being investigated.
The last point is simple: just as you can out-tancredo Tancredo on immigration, you can't out-change Obama. People that have tried this tactic inevitably fail. The only way that McCain could win this election is if he or VP knew anything about the economy paired with the predictable fear/soft on terrorism/ crazy islamofascist card that the GOP attempt every year (POW card added to the mix this year).
This pick is almost as bad as Harriet Myers nomination for the Supreme Court, but Palin is much better looking
Posted by: word | August 29, 2008 5:09 PM | Report abuse
Who would want a nobody from a dark corner of the planet (Alaska) with very little domestic experience and nothing of foreign to be the POTUS when the 72 year old-man follows the path we must all (naturally) go? (Remember a heartbeat away?) Meanwhile, a reminder, Cheney is VP now. She will inherit his Power if McCain pulls off the election (if she can find the connections, that is). Abuse of power seems to come naturally to the Repukelicans, if recent experience is any guide. What an idiot, McCain is. As if putting a woman (especially one like that one (Palin--who? what?) and who is diametrically opposed to HRC on every level) on the ticket would get the disgruntled HRC die-hard PUMA ladies....
Even they will see through his marketing manipulation.
Posted by: Donna Martinson | August 29, 2008 5:08 PM | Report abuse
I laughed out loud when I heard the VP pick. As a Hillary supporter, I must admit I did enjoy the pander factor, but just because I have breasts, don't assume I don't have a brain!
By Palin's own admission, she doesn't know what a the job of VP entails. My next question is; does she know how the federal government runs? She actually sounds less (let me repeat that) LESS qualified than George Bush! I didn't think that was possible but then I shouldn't underestimate the ability of Republicans to elevate the least able to high office.
Posted by: lj8677 | August 29, 2008 5:07 PM | Report abuse
McCain clearly thinks the Palin pick is the double whammy: he will pick up those crazy Hillary supporters that will vote strictly on the basis of an ovarian presence in the White House and he will solidify the evangelical Christian population, or as McCain called in 2000, "agents of tolerance." To this I say, as Obama said about Iraq, that this pick was a major strategic blunder. Not only has the argument about Obama's inexperience taken a serious blow; I can't wait for Tucker Bounds' carefully worded statements declaring that Obama is possibly the most naive and incompetent person ever while leaving the door open the Palin doesn't fit into his ridiculous argument. He has also picked someone with NO economic experience despite the fact that he admittedly doesn't know the issue as well as he should. Does McCain think she is going to shoot guns, hate abortion, and rape the pristine Alaskan land to fix the economy? A sidenote: there is no way that people should believe Palin is a maverick. She was a mayor of a town of 5000 people! She ran on reform in corrupt Alaska, which is what you should do if you want to win an election in Alaska. Of course, within 2 years of the governorship, she's being investigated.
The last point is simple: just as you can out-tancredo Tancredo on immigration, you can't out-change Obama. People that have tried this tactic inevitably fail. The only way that McCain could win this election is if he or VP knew anything about the economy paired with the predictable fear/soft on terrorism/ crazy islamofascist card that the GOP attempt every year (POW card added to the mix this year).
This pick is almost as bad as Harriet Myers nomination for the Supreme Court, but Palin is much better looking
Posted by: word | August 29, 2008 5:06 PM | Report abuse
I see the Nob supporters squirming like rats, which they are. They are trapped. For months on, these rats trash talked HRC, looked on in glee as their hero Nob buried HRC under a pile of sex and race cards, and stole the nomination by sidelining MI and FL, and with the help of his prostitute media pals.
Now with the Palin pick, it is ame, set and match Mac. As it was, only half of HRC supporters were in favor of Nob; with this, there is a stronger incentive to outright vote Mac.
It is comeuppance, gutter rats. You scum thought it was fun to trash Bill C as racist, and as Nob compared him to Nixon. Now the Nob is toast.
Posted by: intcamd1 | August 29, 2008 5:05 PM | Report abuse
I am a republican; however, I was shocked to hear that McCain would choose a running mate with no experience. I would’ve been happy with Romney; even Julliani has more experience than her. Palin openly supported Obama’s energy plan has no experience and being as old and decrepit as McCain really is, experience is key…the VP will likely be the POTUS if he strokes out, and who knows where she really stands with minority voters (not illegal immigrants), we need their votes to over power the ObamaDen machine. As a republican I want to support the McPalin ticket, as a responsible citizen I CAN NOT support that move, chances are she’ll be president and with less experience than Obama, I have to be responsible for my vote, and regrettably vote for Obama…I guess I know now how the Democrats felt during the Bush vs. Kerry election.
Posted by: jen | August 29, 2008 5:03 PM | Report abuse
Don't get me wrong. Alaska as a landscape is beautiful. But it is a very strange land. Folks out there are a different breed of people because of remoteness and climate. There are a lot of Alaskan men who abuse Native American women. McCain is off of his rocker.
Posted by: Earl | August 29, 2008 5:01 PM | Report abuse
If this changed your mind into voting for McCain, you are in the minisculest of minorities. Hardly anyone votes for a presidential candidate because of who they're VP is. This only highlights McCain's judgment and lack thereof, as Obama illustrated last night.
Posted by: WPE | August 29, 2008 5:01 PM | Report abuse
If this changed your mind into voting for McCain, you are in the minisculest of minorities. Hardly anyone votes for a presidential candidate because of who they're VP is. This only highlights McCain's judgment and lack thereof, as Obama illustrated last night.
Posted by: WPE | August 29, 2008 5:01 PM | Report abuse
I like Palin. She seems authentic. She will appeal to the socially conservative voters who voted for Hillary. She has more executive experience than either Obama or McCain.
The abortion issue is no longer an issue that is make or break for me. As the years have gone by, I become less and less gun ho on abortion rights.
McCain is taking a risk. He is showing us that his reputation as a maverick is very important to him. And he has made his ticket more youthful and attractive.
My bet is on him this year.
Posted by: Hillary supporter | August 29, 2008 5:00 PM | Report abuse
Great pick. Palin will be our country's first female president in 2012, and it sounds like she will be a great one.
But more importantly, did anyone see the Vogue cover? No way that's not totally photoshopped. She's hot, but a rack like that after five kids, really...
Posted by: McCainObama08-California | August 29, 2008 5:00 PM | Report abuse
"McCain will raise $100M in the next month"
Especially important- seeing as he's committed to public financing and is stuck with the $84 mil....
"John McCain is very wise. When the debates start Obama's camp cannot point that fact out."
No, the point is McCain can't claim Obama's inexperienced, which is the only thing they've been running on for two months. What are they supposed to run on now? the 72-year old who has been in Washington for 26 years and voted with Bush 95% of the time will be the one best positioned to bring about change in Washington?
I stil think so many people are missing the worst attribute of Palin on the trail: she may look too good. Look at the pics of her standing next to McCain at today's event. He looks like he could be her grandfather for gods sake! It all just serves to remind us how old McCain really is.
Posted by: kreuz_missile | August 29, 2008 5:00 PM | Report abuse
Don't get me wrong. Alaska as a landscape is beautiful. But it is a very strange land. Folks out there are a different breed of people because of remoteness and climate. There are a lot of Alaskan men who abuse Native American women. McCain is off of his rocker.
Posted by: Earl | August 29, 2008 5:00 PM | Report abuse
Don't get me wrong. Alaska as a landscape is beautiful. But it is a very strange land. Folks out there are a different breed of people because of remoteness and climate. There are a lot of Alaskan men who abuse Native American women. McCain is off of his rocker.
Posted by: Earl | August 29, 2008 4:59 PM | Report abuse
Say hello to wife number four, or is it five?
"Campaign believes rift caused by Democratic primary gives them an opportunity to pick up votes from disgruntled women."
Most sensible thing I've read from Cillizza in two years.
Posted by: wardropper | August 29, 2008 4:59 PM | Report abuse
McCain just made his first executive decision and FAILED!
The 72 year old, one heartbeat away issue, is now front and center.
Posted by: Vgirl1 | August 29, 2008 4:59 PM | Report abuse
There hasn't been a single thing about any of the candidates thus far that has excited me - until I woke up to this morning to the news that McCain had selected Sarah Palin as his VP pick.
Certainly, there will be questions about Gov. Palin's experience. However, I would say that 2 years as governor produces a much more comprehensive record than 2 years as a junior senator! She has experience leading a government, while Obama's experience comes almost exclusively from campaigning. I'll take Sarah Palin over Barack Obama any day of the week.
I am absolutely thrilled that McCain selected Sarah Palin as his running mate. She brings a much-needed breath of fresh air to this mind-numbingly long presidential campaign.
While I will still be using the next two months to closely evaluate both candidates and their respective running mates as their positions and proposals (hopefully) become more in depth and concrete, I have to say that if the election were held this week, this female independent would be casting a ballot for McCain/Palin.
Excellent choice, John!
Posted by: CC | August 29, 2008 4:58 PM | Report abuse
Why should Palin should be considered ready to take over the presidency?
Her speech said nothing about her foreign policy views - if she has any. We learned practically nothing about domestic issues. She said nothing that spoke directly to the interests of voters of Ohio specifically. It was as if she didn't know how to reach out to people outside her own state.
Heck, we didn't even learn how large the crowd was in Dayton. I wonder if the McCain campaign wanted to keep it that way.
Posted by: Audrey Beck | August 29, 2008 4:58 PM | Report abuse
I laughed out loud when I heard the VP pick. As a Hillary supporter, I must admit I did enjoy the pander factor, but just because I have breasts, don't assume I don't have a brain!
By Palin's own admission, she doesn't know what a the job of VP entails. My next question is; does she know how the federal government runs? She actually sounds less (let me repeat that) LESS qualified than George Bush! I didn't think that was possible but then I shouldn't underestimate the ability of Republicans to elevate the least able to high office.
Posted by: lj8677 | August 29, 2008 4:56 PM | Report abuse
So disappointed in this pick. McCain is now drawing attention to his age. When they campaign together they'll look like Father and Daughter. I've been for him since 2000 and can't believe this. His staff ought to jump ship because this ship ain't going to float past the GOP convention.
Posted by: Fred in SC | August 29, 2008 4:55 PM | Report abuse
Will Hillary voters really be stupid enough to fall for this one?
Yes Palin is a woman, but where is she on women's issues? She is pro-life and therefore unlikely to tap the pro-choice voters who would form a significant bloc of Clinton voters.
Her resume in Alaska is thin.
There are questions surrounding her potential abuse of position whilst in office.
Palin qualified for the job when McCain hangs up his $500 shoes?
Executive experience she may have (both years), but what sort of electoral pedigree does she have?
Elected by 114,697 Republican votes in 2006 compared to Obama: 3,597,456.
Of course she has a smaller state, but if I were a Republican I'd be slightly scared that I have a completely inexperience campaigner thrust into the national spotlight with so many questions hanging over her.
The only reasons I can see for her nomination are that:
(1) She is pro-life and gets the conservative wing of the Republican party off his back
(2) She is a woman, and therefore brings a different dynamic to the race, even if her negatives outweigh her positives.
Joe Biden is a much more powerful advocate for women than Sarah Palin has any claim to be. Darling of the Republican Party she may be, but next Vice President of the United States, she is not.
Posted by: Mike | August 29, 2008 4:54 PM | Report abuse
"McCain will raise $100M in the next month"
Especially important- seeing as he's committed to public financing and is stuck with the $84 mil....
"John McCain is very wise. When the debates start Obama's camp cannot point that fact out."
No, the point is McCain can't claim Obama's inexperienced, which is the only thing they've been running on for two months. What are they supposed to run on now? the 72-year old who has been in Washington for 26 years and voted with Bush 95% of the time will be the one best positioned to bring about change in Washington?
Posted by: kreuz_missile | August 29, 2008 4:54 PM | Report abuse
Why should Palin should be considered ready to take over the presidency?
Her speech said nothing about her foreign policy views - if she has any. We learned practically nothing about domestic issues. She said nothing that spoke directly to the interests of voters of Ohio specifically. It was as if she didn't know how to reach out to people outside her own state.
Heck, we didn't even learn how large the crowd was in Dayton. I wonder if the McCain campaign wanted to keep it that way.
Posted by: Audrey Beck | August 29, 2008 4:50 PM | Report abuse
This pick is pure McCain. Only a maverick who challenges the status quo of his party could pick someone who does that as well. This Woman has twice the experience the Messiah has, she is the only person on both tickets with executive experience, who has to run budgets, make the tough decisions, and challenged the real status quo by breaking through the party establishment that is hurting the Republican Party. What has the messiah actually done for this country when it comes to standing up to his party? You can't be a post-partisan or a uniter if you never stood up to your party on a substantial issue.
Posted by: TexasProud | August 29, 2008 4:50 PM | Report abuse
Desperate choice, my brother in-law and his family reside in Wasilla, and i have visited the town. It is a lovely town but not big at all, so i dont understand how running this small town and being a gov for 18 months makes you a good VP pick. Her state has over 600,000 people and over 3,000,000 voted for Obama for Senator alone.....
Posted by: American First | August 29, 2008 4:49 PM | Report abuse
This choice finally gives the conservative base of the Republican Party something to cheer for. As a conservative professional woman and mother of young kids, I can't tell you what a difference this selection has made for me. It's a 180 degree immediate shift from disengagement to gung-ho support. Her acceptance speech was excellent and my initial impression is that Sen. Biden should not underestimate her. Her courage in rooting out corruption in Republican politics is a huge motivator for me. I believe she will motivate not only conservatives, but also women who are looking for change. She is a one-term governor, but she is the only candidate who has had any executive experience running anything, and although brief, that record has been examined and shown to be very effective. If her job approval ratings are at 80% now.
Posted by: Jennifer J. Miller, Esq. | August 29, 2008 4:49 PM | Report abuse
This pick is pure McCain. Only a maverick who challenges the status quo of his party could pick someone who does that as well. This Woman has twice the experience the Messiah has, she is the only person on both tickets with executive experience, who has to run budgets, make the tough decisions, and challenged the real status quo by breaking through the party establishment that is hurting the Republican Party. What has the messiah actually done for this country when it comes to standing up to his party? You can't be a post-partisan or a uniter if you never stood up to your party on a substantial issue.
Posted by: TexasProud | August 29, 2008 4:48 PM | Report abuse
Oops, the video of Palin's speech was in 2 parts, here they are:
Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMbkFlfRTpQ
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npPJAN5MvJk
Please donate to the McCain campaign. Today is the last day of the "pre-season". Please make an August donation.
Even small amounts add up on the Internet, like the price of lunch! Today, I donated my first chunk to a candidate since Hillary Clinton conceded. I donated to John McCain.
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Posted by: AsperGirl | August 29, 2008 4:46 PM | Report abuse
Joe Biden is a 65 year old Catholic who supports killing babies, ANY TIME before they are born. Barack Obama can't tell us when a baby gets civil rights. As a practical matter, both Democratic candidates are pro death, for babies. Sarah Palin is a mom who protected the life of Trig Palin, a Down's syndrome baby who both of these guys would have killed. I am looking forward to these debates.
Posted by: ERISAMAVEN | August 29, 2008 4:46 PM | Report abuse
"McCain will raise $100M in the next month"
Especially important- seeing as he's committed to public financing and is stuck with the $84 mil....
"John McCain is very wise. When the debates start Obama's camp cannot point that fact out."
No, the point is McCain can't claim Obama's inexperienced, which is the only thing they've been running on for two months. What are they supposed to run on now? the 72-year old who has been in Washington for 26 years and voted with Bush 95% of the time will be the one best positioned to bring about change in Washington?
Posted by: kreuz_missile | August 29, 2008 4:46 PM | Report abuse
Well McCain just lost the election. Women voters don't want to vote for McCain because he is an adulterer. In 2000, he was at a minimum getting ready to cheat on Cindy and his advisors had to reign him in yet again. Do your homework!
Posted by: ladyliza | August 29, 2008 4:46 PM | Report abuse
Why should Palin should be considered ready to take over the presidency?
Her speech said nothing about her foreign policy views - if she has any. We learned practically nothing about domestic issues. She said nothing that spoke directly to the interests of voters of Ohio specifically. It was as if she didn't know how to reach out to people outside her own state.
Heck, we didn't even learn how large the crowd was in Dayton. I wonder if the McCain campaign wanted to keep it that way.
Posted by: Audrey Beck | August 29, 2008 4:46 PM | Report abuse
AsperGirl is one of those mccain stooges representing "her"self as a disgruntled Hillary supporter.
Geez, she's not even trying to hide it anymore.
Hey Aspergirl, tell your bosses that there are a lot of us out here that used to feel a great deal of respect for McCain, the man he was in 2000 anyway. I'd vote for that guy in second, but now he's just another stinking republican.
Posted by: ex | August 29, 2008 4:45 PM | Report abuse
Joe Biden is a 65 year old Catholic who supports killing babies, ANY TIME before they are born. Barack Obama can't tell us when a baby gets civil rights. As a practical matter, both Democratic candidates are pro death, for babies. Sarah Palin is a mom who protected the life of Trig Palin, a Down's syndrome baby who both of these guys would have killed. I am looking forward to these debates.
Posted by: ERISAMAVEN | August 29, 2008 4:45 PM | Report abuse
This is no nightmare, because this woman pales in comparison to Hilary Clinton. Only dumb Hilary supporters would follow this this woman like lemmings over a cliff. She's an insult to Hilary. She's also under investigation in her own state for abuse of power---sound familiar?! She fits in well with low information, dumb Republican men and women.
Posted by: Inquisitor | August 29, 2008 4:44 PM | Report abuse
Hahahahahahahaha! ROFL! LMAO! Boy, that PTA experience that she LISTS AS PART OF HER POLITICAL EXPERIENCE sure will come in handy if, God forbid, she ever has to deal with Putin or Medvedev.
Nearly half the country is Republican and more than half of us are women. This is the best they could do? This is supposed to appeal to us women voters how, exactly?
Posted by: A Woman Voter | August 29, 2008 4:44 PM | Report abuse
Well McCain just lost the election. Women voters don't want to vote for McCain because he is an adulterer. In 2000, he was at a minimum getting ready to cheat on Cindy and his advisors had to reign him in yet again. Do your homework!
Posted by: ladyliza | August 29, 2008 4:44 PM | Report abuse
At the very least a very interesting and gutsy pick! What impact it will have on the election who knows?
I do think she spoke impressively today.
Perhaps we should try and get a real feel for who she is though before we jump to any conclusions.
It's amazing isn't it, at how many 'experts' there are on her already!
(especially when most are hearing about her for the first time!)
Posted by: gdgca | August 29, 2008 4:43 PM | Report abuse
She was a "beauty queen." What's the reaction when the photos surface?
Posted by: Enquirer | August 29, 2008 4:43 PM | Report abuse
Here is what Palin said about Hillary during the Dem Primaries:
During a Newsweek Women & Leadership Event in Los Angeles last March, Sarah Palin said this about Hillary Clinton:
I say this with all due respect to Hillary Clinton…but when I hear a statement like that coming from a woman candidate with any kind of perceived whine about that excess criticism or you know maybe a sharper microscope put on her, I think you know that doesn’t do us any good – women in politics, women in general wanting to progress this country.
Posted by: King Kong | August 29, 2008 4:43 PM | Report abuse
...you gotta be kidding.
Why not Cindy Sheehan? Why not...Hillary herself?
Even if you're going to hand the VP nomination to a Republican woman to exploit the Hillary issue, this is the best that he could do? Jesus f-ing christ is this what American presidential politics have come down to? Two US Senators pretending to be washington outsiders, two women -one a US senator, the other a state govenor- pretending to be hampered by a glass ceiling?
So apparently they are all entitled to the White House because they are Washington outsiders, "mavericks", "agents of change" and women?
I guess they're going to just walk into D.C., take the Senate and House by the horns, whip 'em into shape and get the US economy up and roaring like a steam-engine! Somehow doing a better job of it than GW has done, over the past 8 years, all while being a serious contrarian and having the whole Republican party under his thumb. These guys are going to go *against* the Establishment and accomplish something?
All that McCain is doing is saying that that he will be a political eunuch in D.C. and that his VP will have even less experience and even less support on the Hill than he does right now. Obama has the outsider card sewn-up but at least he can count on the support of his party, which, by the way, has a growing majority in Congress this election.
Posted by: jfc1 | August 29, 2008 4:43 PM | Report abuse
As some one said, on the McCain/Palin ticket, the experienced senator is runningfor the president, while the less experienced has the potenial and leadership, and will learn and grow in the role.
On the Nobama/Bidos ticket, the clueless and sex/race master is running for the president, while the more experienced guy is there to carry the jock straps.
Hmm.. and the Nob supporting gutter rats think that it is McCain who made the mistake?!
But it is not as if some one accused the groupie gutter rats of having any sense and brains, anyway.
Posted by: intcamd1 | August 29, 2008 4:43 PM | Report abuse
This is no nightmare, because this woman pales in comparison to Hilary Clinton. Only dumb Hilary supports would support this woman. She's an insult to Hilary. She's also under investigation in her own state for abuse of power---sound familiar?! She fits in well with low information dumb Republicans.
Posted by: Inquisitor | August 29, 2008 4:42 PM | Report abuse
Disgruntled Women -- That was by the Rolling Stones, right?
Posted by: Mike Licht | August 29, 2008 4:42 PM | Report abuse
If something happens to McCain, is this person ready to lead???? She has been governor of Alaska for all of two years, but she does have the AMAZING experience of being the mayor of Wasilla, with a population of just over 5,000 people! WOW! More people live in my backyard by a factor of 4.5 X than in her entire state! McCain is absolutely pandering to the female vote, and not thinking of what is in the best interest of this country.
This is insane - congratulations John!!!!!!
FYI - Alaska Total Population (2006 estimate) = 670,053
Posted by: Mike in Denver | August 29, 2008 4:41 PM | Report abuse
This choice finally gives the conservative base of the Republican Party something to cheer for. As a conservative professional woman and mother of young kids, I can't tell you what a difference this selection has made for me. It's a 180 degree immediate shift from disengagement to gung-ho support. Her acceptance speech was excellent and my initial impression is that Sen. Biden should not underestimate her. Her courage in rooting out corruption in Republican politics is a huge motivator for me. I believe she will motivate not only conservatives, but also women who are looking for change. She is a one-term governor, but she is the only candidate who has had any executive experience running anything, and although brief, that record has been examined and shown to be very effective. If her job approval ratings are at 80% now.
Posted by: Jennifer J. Miller, Esq. | August 29, 2008 4:39 PM | Report abuse
Cry democrats,cry.Go and begg Hillary to help you!Howard Dean and the hacks like Donna Brazile have managed to hand over the presidency to republicans-again-in a platter.
Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 4:39 PM | Report abuse
Whoever thinks that women who support Hillary will vote for McCain just because Palin is a women, no matter how different she is on the issues, is just insulting women and MUST be a man. No woman, no matter Dem or Rep is so stupid to think that.
Posted by: michele | August 29, 2008 4:39 PM | Report abuse
What a gift to Obama! With this choice McCain just handed hm the Presidency. Palin is anti-choice (that's going to bring in the Hillary hold-outs?), she has less than two years of holding a state-wide office and before that was mayor of a tiny town. Compare that with Joe Biden who brings a wealth of experience to share with Biden. If this is an example of McCain's judgment, let the buyer beware!
Posted by: Jude | August 29, 2008 4:39 PM | Report abuse
I see a whole bunch of Nobaba (Nob) groupie gutter rats that claim they are Hillary supporters (some of them say they are women) and insulted by the Palin choice.
You gutter rats are so pathetic. None of you are HRC supporters. You roaches are sooo transparent. You are Nob's koolaid drinking gutter rats, that's what you are, and will always be.
If you are truly HRC supporters, I challenge you to write some nice things about HRC< how the slimy Nob campaign used race and sex cards to steal the nomination, and then say you are still insulted by the Palin pick.
You see Nob's gutter rats, most HRC supporters are revolted by the disgusting tactics of Nob, the dirty role played by the media prostitutes in stealing the nomination, and the shameful way in which Pres CLinton and Sen CLinton were trashed. You gutter rats have no understanding of that depth of that feeling.
So, merely saying you are a Clinton supporter and are insulted by Palin pick is n't going to convince any one. It just makes you a liar, as your hero Nob already is, in addition to being scum eating gutter rats.
Posted by: intcamd1 | August 29, 2008 4:39 PM | Report abuse
Scrivner-
"Rabid feministas" are generally pro-choice.
A woman or the right woman. That is the question.
Posted by: Mason | August 29, 2008 4:38 PM | Report abuse
Hey Guys, Its me...Johnny Edwards, remember?
I am sooooooo proud of my Party for nominating a woman. Yes I wish it was me, but maybe next time, unless there's a black woman on the ballot. I guess I'll have to up my speaking fees for my poverty lectures to pay child support ---- er I mean my campaign worker's child support.
You know how it is. Baby-momma and all that.
OK everybody....God Bless America, and until 2012, make sure you come out and see me on the Duke/University Of Illinios/Harvard Poverty Lecture Tour....Bon Jovi and John Cougar are my warm-up act!!!
Peace in the Mid-east,
John "Humble" Edwards
P.S. to my man Obama - When you get that new Govt. health plan worked out, see if you can delay that cancer cure a little bit for me , OK Bro?
Posted by: Chasing Ambulances in my Illegal Briefs | August 29, 2008 4:38 PM | Report abuse
Some Republicans are so stupid that they are actually excited about McCain's pick of Palin! It's the equivalent of Barack Obama picking a teenage girl as his running mate.
Posted by: miknugget | August 29, 2008 4:38 PM | Report abuse
When the Beauty Pageant contestant was asked why so many republican's cannot locate the US on a map she replied....." I personally believe that US Americans are unable to do so because, uh,
some... people out there in out nation don't have maps, and, uh, i believe
that our education like such as South Africa and, uh, the Iraq everywhere
like,such as and ... I believe that they should, our education over here in
the US should help the US, er, should help South Africa and should help the
Iraq and the Asian countries, so we will be able to build up a future for
our children."
Posted by: McInsane | August 29, 2008 4:38 PM | Report abuse
What a novel idea: The Crypt Keeper has chosen the Bride of Frankenstein as his running mate.
How positively droll.
Posted by: MsThing | August 29, 2008 4:37 PM | Report abuse
McCain just made his first executive decision and FAILED:
McCain/Palin: More of the same! It's a shame!
That 72 year old, "Only a HEARTBEAT AWAY" issue, just moved FRONT and Center!
Posted by: Vgirl1 | August 29, 2008 4:36 PM | Report abuse
Wow. He absolutely blew it ... what a blunder. Has he lost his mind?
Is she the only woman he knows to pander women voters?
There is no PLUS to her selection; she however has tons of negatives. As an ardent anti-abortion, she can’t appeal to Hillary women. As a part-time small town (Population of 9K) mayor two years ago, she lacks any meaningful experience. With her lack of experience, McCain can no longer attack Obama on experience and all the money McCain spent on attacking Obama’s experience is now waste. With this selection, John McCain not only weaken his position, but has in fact helped his opponent by given Obama a free “get-out-of-jail” ticket, sort of speak, with respect to inexperience. In fact, this choice might be yet another example that he is out of touch.
Elections are won and lost from the middle. She can’t contribute to that end; she is far, far right ideologue from Alaska where half of GOP officials are either in jail or indicted.
Moreover, with McCain’s age, it is way too risky that she is potentially one heartbeat away from the presidency.
Finally, the choice of running mate is the first important decision that candidate makes. It shows the judgment of the candidate. McCain blew it this one—big time. If this is an indicative of his decision-making skills, he miserably failed.
Posted by: Dude, where is your brain??? | August 29, 2008 4:36 PM | Report abuse
What all of you aren't looking at is the reality:
Over 50% of women are undecided. They don't care about how long someone has been in office. They care about relating to someone who is like them. Who will make real changes.
Obama means nothing to women. He does mean something to CHANGE. He's African-American and young and handsome. But he still does nothing for the average woman.
McCain figured it out. He selected an average woman to put into office and yes, I firmly believe she could continue on should something happen to McCain. I can see PAST McCain to Palin. YAAAAAAAHOOOOO!!!!
I just commented that unless you have a billion dollars and am in congress, you cannot get elected president. Thank you McCain for proving me wrong. I will vote for McCain. Because, I hope eventually Palin does become President. JMO.
Posted by: susan in denver | August 29, 2008 4:36 PM | Report abuse
Game over!!!!!!!!!
McCain will raise $100M in the next month.
Good luck in '12 Hillary. You will need it (again).
BTW - Looking foward to Biden crowing over his assault weapons ban to a female NRA life member. LOVE IT!!!!
Posted by: Thomas Mead | August 29, 2008 4:33 PM | Report abuse
Watch Governor Sarah Palin's VP speech today:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMbkFlfRTpQ
What a great speech!
>>Anonymous wrote: "She is going to get laughed out of the room if she tries to discuss anything of substance "
And this is what will infuriate former Clinton supporters and get McCain elected. Because Palin is much more substantial than Obama.
Posted by: AsperGirl | August 29, 2008 4:32 PM | Report abuse
Many people seem to be looking at the Palin nod as a ploy to attract female voters. Perhaps so.
More importantly, though, Palin is a pick who appeals to Republicans. Through the entire primary season and even up until a day ago, Republicans were not excited about their presidential options. None of the candidates really wowed anyone enough to fan excitement, and so McCain won by default, a choice that has irked Republicans more than satisfied them ever since.
Even among VP options, none of the prominent names seemed to excite. Lieberman would have sent Republicans scurrying. Ridge? Eh. Pawlenty? Maybe. Romney? Conservatives already saw him in the primaries and were underwhelmed.
Yes, there are risks and unknowns with Palin, but she immediately grabs attention, and Republicans are actually excited about their ticket for the first time this election cycle. Whether buyer's remorse will set in a couple months from now remains to be seen, but for now this is a stunningly smart pick for Republicans.
Posted by: blert | August 29, 2008 4:32 PM | Report abuse
JK---
You are an idiot! You are saying that Obama is not qualified to be POTUS, yet Palin IS????
YOU ARE AN IDIOT and the reason that women are still second class citizens!!!!
Posted by: JK is an idiot | August 29, 2008 4:31 PM | Report abuse
Wow. He absolutely blew it ... what a blunder. Has he lost his mind?
Is she the only woman he knows to pander women voters?
There is no PLUS to her selection; she however has tons of negatives. As an ardent anti-abortion, she can’t appeal to Hillary women. As a part-time small town (Population of 9K) mayor two years ago, she lacks any meaningful experience. With her lack of experience, McCain can no longer attack Obama on experience and all the money McCain spent on attacking Obama’s experience is now waste. With this selection, John McCain not only weaken his position, but has in fact helped his opponent by given Obama a free “get-out-of-jail” ticket, sort of speak, with respect to inexperience. In fact, this choice might be yet another example that he is out of touch.
Moreover, with McCain’s age, it is way too risky that she is potentially one heartbeat away from the presidency.
Finally, the choice of running mate is the first important decision that candidate makes. It shows the judgment of the candidate. McCain blew it this one—big time. If this is an indicative of his decision-making skills, he miserably failed.
Posted by: He Blew it.... | August 29, 2008 4:31 PM | Report abuse
McPAIN
Posted by: washington | August 29, 2008 4:30 PM | Report abuse
This is unequivocally a crass & cynical move on Grandpa's part to lure the by now mythical angry woman voter. She brings zilch qualifications re: economics, foreign affairs, national experience. Remove her genitalia & any other signs of her being a woman, and she wouldn't even show up on a Z-List for VP. On the stump & in the debate with Biden, she'll be at least as bad as Quayle & perhaps even compete with General Stockdale for the VP Debate Incompetence Award!
Posted by: Bob in CT | August 29, 2008 4:30 PM | Report abuse
Ok, we Fixator's are supposed to be a step ahead of the public with regards to things politic.
So, McCain has made his choice as VP. It is what it is.
Next: Who's McCain going to pick for his cabinet?
Posted by: NoOneImportant | August 29, 2008 4:30 PM | Report abuse
Cry democrats,cry.Go and begg Hillary to help you!Howard Dean and the hacks like Donna Brazile has managed to hand over the presidency to republicans-again-in a platter.
Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 4:29 PM | Report abuse
Many people seem to be looking at the Palin nod as a ploy to attract female voters. Perhaps so.
More importantly, though, Palin is a pick who appeals to Republicans. Through the entire primary season and even up until a day ago, Republicans were not excited about their presidential options. None of the candidates really wowed anyone enough to fan excitement, and so McCain won by default, a choice that has irked Republicans more than satisfied them ever since.
Even among VP options, none of the prominent names seemed to excite. Lieberman would have sent Republicans scurrying. Ridge? Eh. Pawlenty? Maybe. Romney? Conservatives already saw him in the primaries and were underwhelmed.
Yes, there are risks and unknowns with Palin, but she immediately grabs attention, and Republicans are actually excited about their ticket for the first time this election cycle. Whether buyer's remorse will set in a couple months from now remains to be seen, but for now this is a stunningly smart pick for Republicans.
Posted by: blert | August 29, 2008 4:28 PM | Report abuse
I’m just SHOCKED at the disregard that John McCain has for the future of the United States in picking Sarah Palin.
How dare McCain propose to the American people that this unknown, untested woman is suited to be president of the United States?
That’s what it boils down to. That’s the crux of the matter.
This woman would be a heartbeat away from the presidency – and that’s a 72-year-old heart, let us not forget. Next year, 73, then 74, then 75 …
The risk is astoundingly high. The reward to the nation would be nominal if, God forbid, Palin served four years as VP. Evidently he believes Palin will boost his chances for election. That is nothing but cynical and shortsighted when contrasted with the very real possibility that this woman will become the president of the United States.
Now there’s a chance she could be the best president ever. Key word – CHANCE. She is untested! She is unknown! She has ZERO national or international experience! It is absolutely shocking in its disregard – contempt, even -- for the country.
We can only hope that the American people recognize the immense risk in this selection and McCain’s shockingly poor judgment and vision.
Posted by: AdvRider | August 29, 2008 4:28 PM | Report abuse
I feel like I woke up on another planet. Does it seem to anybody else that people who are describing Palin as a "magnificient" pick are reaching way too hard? What was McCain thinking? What was Palin thinking? Haven't they ever heard of Dan Quayle?
If this is McCain's idea of a good decision, we can't have him in the White House.
Posted by: And2rew | August 29, 2008 4:28 PM | Report abuse
All the Democratic attack DOGS are out in force bashing Palin all over the Blogs ..... they aren't doing Obama any good and they obviously haven't bothered to watch her presentation this morning. She may be the most impressive of all four running for Preident and Vice President.
Hopefully Obama unlike the DOGS takes Palin seriously or he will suffer for not doing so.
Posted by: AH2 | August 29, 2008 4:28 PM | Report abuse
Many posters here miss the point.
Yes, it's a blatant pander to Hillary supporters.
And yes, most Hillary supporters wouldn't think of supporting McCain/Palin.
But there are a few million rabid feministas who will vote according to plumbing.
That, when combined with the votes of those who think Obama lacks the experience and the humility to be POTUS, could be enough to make a difference. Maybe, THE difference, when you count in the built-in "advantage" of electronic voting.
PALIN VP SHOCKER: Will Scorned "Hillarians" Turn to GOP "Hot Mamma?
Posted by: scrivener | August 29, 2008 4:25 PM | Report abuse
This choice motivates the conservative base of the Republican Party. As a conservative professional woman and mother of young kids, I can't tell you what a difference this selection has made for me. It's a 180 degree immediate shift from disengagement to gung-ho support. Her acceptance speech was excellent and my initial impression is that Sen. Biden should not underestimate her. Her courage in rooting out corruption in Republican politics is a huge motivator for me. I believe she will motivate not only conservatives, but also women who are looking for change. She is a one-term governor, but she is the only candidate who has had any executive experience running anything, and although brief, that record can be examined for effectiveness.
Posted by: Jennifer J. Miller, Esq. | August 29, 2008 4:25 PM | Report abuse
>>Anonymous wrote: "She is going to get laughed out of the room if she tries to discuss anything of substance "
And this is what will infuriate former Clinton supporters and get McCain elected. Because Palin is much more substantial than Obama.
Posted by: AsperGirl | August 29, 2008 4:25 PM | Report abuse
It is no surprise. I'm sure that if Hillary
was the Democratic nominee, John would have chosen a black man.
Posted by: ash | August 29, 2008 4:24 PM | Report abuse
Not sure whether this was the best choice Republicans could have had as they are failing their own main argument against Obama by this. In addition, it seemed as if the only way the Dems will unite was by having a woman VP for McCain. Make no mistake, its not because the women failed to get the nomination, the high drama in the Democratic Party. Its because Hillary failed to get the nomination. So the reluctance from Hillary to pacify the genuinely concerned ones (barring those who are against Obama for other reasons and hide behind this reason). Consider this, if Hillary really wanted, a face to face confrontation to reason with a set of protesters outside the convention would have achieved that. Now that is what may be going to happen. Hillary and Bill were reluctantly supporting Obama with the hope for that historic first woman president to be either Hillary or Chelsea. With that in doubt in a defeat of Obama now, be sure they are now going to unite the party.
So in a way this is a net result of 3 electoral vote loss for Mccain. Ensuring Alaska which otherwise would have possibly been in play while losing Arkansas, which Bill will now deliver to Obama.
Posted by: Neutral As It Takes | August 29, 2008 4:24 PM | Report abuse
I think John McCain knows that Sarah Polin is too inexperienced for the Vice Presidency, but she should get it because, well, he was a POW.
Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 4:24 PM | Report abuse
OMG, a heterosexual, married, middle class, business owning, white female. The outrage!!!!
How dare McCain not pick yet another Senator, to prove he's for change like Same Old Obama, the Left Wing Limousine Liberal Leftover from the 1960's.
We really need more Ivy League types in government. Why couldn't he pick a hedge fund Daddy insider like Clinton or Biden?
Next thing you'll be hearing is she knows where her food comes from, has never been to Whole Foods, and doesn't drive a SmartCar, like the other 295 million Americans.
She might have even shopped at WalMart.
The horror.
Posted by: Middle Class Middle America | August 29, 2008 4:22 PM | Report abuse
This choice motivates the conservative base of the Republican Party. As a conservative professional woman and mother of young kids, I can't tell you what a difference this selection has made for me. It's a 180 degree immediate shift from disengagement to gung-ho support. Her acceptance speech was excellent and my initial impression is that Sen. Biden should not underestimate her. Her courage in rooting out corruption in Republican politics is a huge motivator for me. I believe she will motivate not only conservatives, but also women who are looking for change. She is a one-term governor, but she is the only candidate who has had any executive experience running anything, and although brief, that record can be examined for effectiveness.
Posted by: Jennifer J. Miller, Esq. | August 29, 2008 4:19 PM | Report abuse
Ok, we Fixator's are supposed to be a step ahead of the public with regards to things politic.
So, McCain has made his choice as VP. It is what it is.
Next: Who's McCain going to pick for his cabinet?
Posted by: NoOneImportant | August 29, 2008 4:19 PM | Report abuse
The Palin choice reads like a bad Hollywood sequel to "Mr. Deeds Goes to Washington." Her experience in government is largely limited to one small town. Very curious that a candidate with repeated health problems picks somebody with little relevant experience. And that was with the possibility of selecting either Susan Collins or Olympia Snow, both Republican Senators with extensive and impressive credentials.
Posted by: texun | August 29, 2008 4:18 PM | Report abuse
JK...you are either 12 years old, an idiot, both, or a liar. Easy to go from progressive Hillary to creationism moose hunter...just because they are both women. You can't be real. And if you are, you are a little spiteful and probably a dab racist for your own good. Good luck with that!
Posted by: Jake | August 29, 2008 4:17 PM | Report abuse
If something happens to McCain, is this person ready to lead???? She has been governor of Alaska for all of two years, but she does have the AMAZING experience of being the mayor of Wasilla, with a population of just over 5,000 people! WOW! More people live in my backyard by a factor of 4.5 X than in her entire state! McCain is absolutely pandering to the female vote, and not thinking of what is in the best interest of this country.
This is insane - congratulations John!!!!!!
FYI - Alaska Total Population (2006 estimate) = 670,053
Posted by: FreeRange | August 29, 2008 4:14 PM | Report abuse
After the novelty of this pick dissipates, I don't think this will look like a smart choice.
Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 4:13 PM | Report abuse
hey, chris. just a small heads up on a common grammatical error: the correct phrase is "home in" not "hone in"
Posted by: johndog | August 29, 2008 4:12 PM | Report abuse
I heard on WTOP radio today that she is anti-choice, supports drilling in ANWAR, and once sued the federal government for putting polar bears on the endangered list. If this is all true, McCain and the media must be complete morons if they think disgruntled HRC supporters would vote for him because of this VP pick. This disgruntled HRC supporter is extremely offended by that. You obviously think we're all shallow idiots.
Posted by: Rosepetals64 | August 29, 2008 4:12 PM | Report abuse
PLEASE a donation to the McCain campaign in support of his pick of Sarah Palin.
THIS IS THE LAST DAY TO DONATE BEFORE THE FALL GENERAL ELECTION FUND PERIOD STARTS.
www.johnmccain.com
Posted by: AsperGirl | August 29, 2008 4:12 PM | Report abuse
Anti-Palin Alaskan Democrats are reporting that Alaskan game wardens shot wolf cubs from overpopulated packs that were killing moose.
This is an outrage. Obama and Biden clearly state that they should be pulled three quarters from the womb and have their brains sucked out.
If partial birth abortion is good enough for human babies, it should be good enough for wolves.
Posted by: Nair All | August 29, 2008 4:11 PM | Report abuse
No matter what they say, this is still the guy they have as their candidate. A coward who records as we speak are being obtained from the Vietnamese government along with the propaganda tapes Mccain made for the enemy. This has been a long time coming.
JOHN MCCAIN, TRAITOR TO HIS COUNTRY, COLLABORATOR WITH THE ENEMY, MILITARY DISGRACE.
Ted Sampley, a Vietnam Veteran and former Green Beret, issued a CHALLENGE to John McCain "If you can show us that the information presented in our mailer is untruthful . . . we will Stand Down" This CHALLENGE was issued during an interview with INSIDE EDITION on January 17, 2008. John, family members of Vietnam POW/MIA(s) have been waiting for more then 14 years for you to have the courage to face them eye to eye in front of the American Public - Here is your opportunity for some "STRAIGHT TALK." Stop hiding behind your fabricated "War Hero" persona. You know we can prove your collaborations with declassified government documents . . . It is time for the American people to get to know the REAL John McCain - the John McCain that the POW/MIA families witnessed during the 1991-93 US Senate Select Committee on POW/MIA Affairs . Bring It On John! HERE IS OUR NUMBER 252-527-0442
Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 4:11 PM | Report abuse
I think that Sarah Palin is an absolutely perfect choice as John McCain's running mate.
But, then again, I'm a Democrat.
Posted by: William Madden | August 29, 2008 4:10 PM | Report abuse
"hillary supporters hate obama and they will hand this electon to mccain...."
I'm curious. What do people expect to accomplish with this?
Posted by: DDAWD | August 29, 2008 4:10 PM | Report abuse
to the hillarites stating how they are going to vote for McCain now so they can vote for Hillary in 2012 - If Obama loses and it's your fault, I'll remember that you cost Obama the election. And I won't vote for Hillary in 2012 because you did that.
This I'm being petulant when I say this?
Really?
Posted by: ex | August 29, 2008 4:09 PM | Report abuse
>>G wrote: "As an Obama supporter all I can say is,"
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA"
*deep breath*
"HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA"
***********
Thanks for identifying yourself. For a minute, I thought it was Hillary Clinton, rolling around on her living room carpet out in New York, laughing at Obama.
Posted by: AsperGirl | August 29, 2008 4:06 PM | Report abuse
I don;t know much about Sarah Palin, other than the obvious reports: an elected governor from Alaska. I found a good profile on http://weblog.signonsandiego.com/weblogs/afb/archives/027011.html
She appears to have a strong reputation for ethics and transparency in government business transactions. Alaska might be susceptible to tapping the public trust, since oil revenues are plentiful. For instance, read about Senator Ted Stevens, who is under investigation at http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2003822405_stevensalaska05m.html
But regardless of how others might feel about McCain, I think his VP choice is smart. It presents a balanced choice, like so: McCain vs. Biden (two older, experienced Senators) and Palin vs. Obama (two youngsters, and minority representatives).
However, for all of my admiration of anyone willing to endure a national election, I predict Obama-Biden will win by landslide. As Hillary said, "Barrack Obama is my candidate".
Posted by: Richard | August 29, 2008 4:03 PM | Report abuse
Given the importance of the "bimbo" demographic to advertisers, do not expect anything but ubiquitous pandering from the media punditocracy regarding Mrs. Palin. That said, the selection of Mrs. Pulin as Mr. McCain's running mate reeks of desperation!
Posted by: David G. Ward | August 29, 2008 4:00 PM | Report abuse
Ha ha ha! Yeah, it's better than having the most unqualified President candidate in modern history. Don't ya think, munchkin?
Posted by: Obama + Biden + Hat = A loquacious rabbit | August 29, 2008 1:42 PM
what experience did Bush really have? 6 years of governor? well really 4 years of governor with the last two years spent running for positive.. plus most of the power for the tx governorship is with the lt. gov and the commissors of public works etc.... then you elect a guy that could barely beat mccain and had to go truly negative by spreading rumors that mccain fathered a black baby and that he was unstable.... mcCain may have been decent 8 years ago but when he starting becoming a bush clone he lost any creditable.... vote for change for the better.. vote obama.. i think alot of people are too stupid or fear things becoming better... american deserves better then what the republicans have given us.... its a shame we have such a dumbed down society in this country if more people read, thought about things, and not believe what fat old white man yelled on the radio each day... they gop would never have a chance.... john lennon said it best "living is easy with your eyes closed" and that is what the gop thrives on.. dumb ass middle class americans that vote against their own self interest and vote for the GOP....
hats off to obama for one of the best speeches i've ever heard last night... and he did a great job pointing out failures and fallacies in mccain and gop logic and views!
Posted by: mark | August 29, 2008 3:59 PM | Report abuse
Ha ha ha! Yeah, it's better than having the most unqualified President candidate in modern history. Don't ya think, munchkin?
Posted by: Obama + Biden + Hat = A loquacious rabbit | August 29, 2008 1:42 PM
what experience did Bush really have? 6 years of governor? well really 4 years of governor with the last two years spent running for positive.. plus most of the power for the tx governorship is with the lt. gov and the commissors of public works etc.... then you elect a guy that could barely beat mccain and had to go truly negative by spreading rumors that mccain fathered a black baby and that he was unstable.... mcCain may have been decent 8 years ago but when he starting becoming a bush clone he lost any creditable.... vote for change for the better.. vote obama.. i think alot of people are too stupid or fear things becoming better... american deserves better then what the republicans have given us.... its a shame we have such a dumbed down society in this country if more people read, thought about things, and not believe what fat old white man yelled on the radio each day... they gop would never have a chance.... john lennon said it best "living is easy with your eyes closed" and that is what the gop thrives on.. dumb ass middle class americans that vote against their own self interest and vote for the GOP....
hats off to obama for one of the best speeches i've ever heard last night... and he did a great job pointing out failures and fallacies in mccain and gop logic and views!
Posted by: mark | August 29, 2008 3:54 PM | Report abuse
Um, let's see what we have here. A person with less than two years experience as a Governor of Alaska. A former runner up in a beauty contest, a drug user, under investigation for ethics abuse, no knowledge of foreign or national domestic affairs. Yep, sounds like the most qualified Republican anybody could find. McCain has just handed the Democrats the White House on a silver platter. Why bother having the debates? This election is over in a landslide.
Posted by: C. Price | August 29, 2008 3:54 PM | Report abuse
A FEMALE DAN QUAYLE
Posted by: BIL | August 29, 2008 3:51 PM | Report abuse
It has taken the Republican Party twenty years to go were the Democratic Party has already been! The Democratic Party selected Geraldine Ferraro in 1984.
Posted by: Lydia, Durham, NC | August 29, 2008 3:50 PM | Report abuse
I am a disgruntled Hillary supporter, and a staunch moderate Democrat. After hearing Obama's speech I flirted with the idea, could I vote for him, knowing how he disrespected Bill and Hillary, how Howard Dean backhanded him the nomination? I almost took down my McCain yard signs, picking Governor Palin, kept me in McCain's column, the yard signs are staying put. McCain/Palin 2008, a ticket moderates can accept.
BLUE VOTER, VOTING RED.
Posted by: Victor Flores | August 29, 2008 3:48 PM | Report abuse
Nice try, McCain. In the long run, this choice will look definitive of the desparation and cynical politics of McCain. Obama will actually use Biden for ADVICE. What will McCain use Palin for except some sick attempt to convince Hillary supporters vote for him just because he has a woman on the ticket? These two ladies are fundamentally OPPOSITE. Its demeaning to me.
Posted by: annette | August 29, 2008 3:47 PM | Report abuse
She is going to get laughed out of the room if she tries to discuss anything of substance (e.g. military, climate change, or health care). No matter what your politics, it is an insult that this woman could actually become president or even sit at a table with Joe Biden. As a young woman who majored in political science and worked on a few national campaigns, I'm pretty sure I'm just as qualified to be VP. Though I should not underestimate the great powers granted to the mayor of Wassila.
Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 3:45 PM | Report abuse
I think it's a little clueless of the Republicans to think that Hillary supporters will support any woman......that we are all interchangeable. Not so.
We might have voted for another progressive woman, but Sarah Palin is not progressive.
Hillary supporters supported Hillary and the policies that she supported, including pro-choice for women. Hillary would never want her legacy to be the overturning of Roe v. Wade which is what will happen if McCain/Palin are elected.
Posted by: Her | August 29, 2008 3:43 PM | Report abuse
Oh my goodness... I am just beside myself.. what a great election cycle this is turning out to be... Masterful choice by McCain... what a hoot... just when Obama thought that he had it in the bag..... man oh man.. this is going to be so much fun this fall.. can't wait.. I feel really sorry for Senator Clinton though.. that twit Obama should have choosen her as a VP.. and he will lose NOT because of his skin color.. but because of his choice of VP.. Man oh man what fun is this?
Posted by: averagenewyorker | August 29, 2008 3:43 PM | Report abuse
Romney & Huckabee should be pizzed & insulted!
I thought the headlines were joking...I'm still laughing.
Posted by: Maryland | August 29, 2008 3:43 PM | Report abuse
Seems like a pure defensive play: Palin will secure the Mountain states and social-conservative South--simple electoral math.
But the McCain campaign just blunted their biggest line of attack against Obama. Does this mean they were for experience before they were against it?
Posted by: Aww Man | August 29, 2008 3:42 PM | Report abuse
There is a great shot of Cindy McShame looking down at the floor with both families behind the canidates. You know she's thinking 'I wonder how much money she has? How do I make sure that they are not left alone?'
Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 3:42 PM | Report abuse
She's a CREATIONIST. How stupid can you get? Even McCain knows better than that.
Posted by: Luke | August 29, 2008 3:40 PM | Report abuse
Oh my goodness... I am just beside myself.. what a great election cycle this is turning out to be... Masterful choice by McCain... what a hoot... just when Obama thought that he had it in the bag..... man oh man.. this is going to be so much fun this fall.. can't wait.. I feel really sorry for Senator Clinton though.. that twit Obama should have choosen her as a VP.. and he will lose NOT because of his skin color.. but because of his choice of VP.. Man oh man what fun is this?
Posted by: averagenewyorker | August 29, 2008 3:40 PM | Report abuse
As a fiscally conservative, socially liberal voter, I rarely have a candidate I can fully support. Unlike many of your posters, neither do I have the luxury of ranting and calling the other side names because I am usually the "other side" as well.
While I see the Palin selection as a strategic one for McCain, I cannot see Palin as a sufficient choice, as say Romney might have been, to encourage my voting for their ticket. However much I'd like to see the glass ceiling broken, I cannot accept another four years of socially narrow supreme court selections or of anti-science. I do, however, take solace in the fact that there will be social progress in our political system regardless of who wins: we will have either a man of mixed race or a woman in one of our two highest offices.
Posted by: Meliza | August 29, 2008 3:39 PM | Report abuse
Hey Guys, Its me...Johnny Edwards, remember?
I am sooooooo proud of my Party for nominating a woman. Yes I wish it was me, but maybe next time, unless there's a black woman on the ballot. I guess I'll have to up my speaking fees for my poverty lectures to pay child support ---- er I mean my campaign worker's child support.
You know how it is. Baby-momma and all that.
OK everybody....God Bless America, and until 2012, make sure you come out and see me on the Duke/University Of Illinios/Harvard Poverty Lecture Tour....Bon Jovi and John Cougar are my warm-up act!!!
Peace in the Mid-east,
John "Humble" Edwards
P.S. to my man Obama - When you get that new Govt. health plan worked out, see if you can delay that cancer cure a little bit for me , OK Bro?
Posted by: Chasing Ambulances while wearing my Illegal Briefs | August 29, 2008 3:35 PM | Report abuse
The idiots proclaiming Sarah Palin had a drug problem are way too hopped up. Are you guys that disturbed? What about BARRY'S COCAINE PROBLEM????? You obamanuts can twist things any way you want, but you just can't be honest, decent, or fair. I guess that is a reflection of your leader.
Posted by: Adrian | August 29, 2008 3:35 PM | Report abuse
What's she going to do the first time he unloads his temper on her?
Posted by: somerseten | August 29, 2008 3:33 PM | Report abuse
Does PUMA stand for Postmenopausal Ugly Miserable Annoyances?
Fortunately, you hags will be swamped by the millions of women voting for Obama.
Posted by: Spectator2 | August 29, 2008 3:33 PM | Report abuse
Wow, brilliant choice by John McCain.
Women and Catholics (I am both) are thrilled with your choice. Hillary could have won both women and Catholics, but no, the Dems had to nominate the "one" candidate who cannot win. Brilliant.
I am a lifelong Democrat, a staunch Hillary supporter who does not accept Barack Obama as the nominee of my party.
Obama is neither qualified or electable. Obama is not qualified to be a U.S. Senator, let alone U.S. President.
My party has foolishly nominated the wrong candidate(s).
The Democratic party should have paid much more attention to the 58% majority voting block of the Democratic party who want Hillary, not Obama and much less attention to the less than 11% of the black minority vote (take out many black females who support Hillary).
Women will decide this election, we decide ALL elections. Hillary was our candidate and remains our first choice.
Given the choices that remain it's McCain 08 and Hillary 2012.
Thank you Senator McCain for hearing our voices. Obama told us he did not need us and to shut the f===up and get in line. WE SAY NO!
My female Hillary delegate friends who attended the DNC convention were physically and verbally intimidated by the Chicago thugs of Obama and Farakaan bodyguards. It was repulsive.
The DNC convention was a farce. Nothing democratic about it. The entire Democratic primary process was a farce. Nothing democratic about it.
The DNC must be held accountable for the unacceptable sexism, racism, classism, voter disenfranchisement and democracy subversion in 2008.
Hillary should be the nominee. Hillary could win this election in a walk.
The Obama-Biden ticket is a loser. The DNC must be handed a HUGE defeat so the party can be taken back from these thugs who have hijacked it.
The DNC and Obama have destroyed the Democratic party in 2008. Obama has set back race relations, set back African American candidates and set back the Democratic party.
**Women's issues are about far more than abortion rights. If abortion rights are your concern, you need to pay a lot more attention to whom you are electing to your local legislature, in every statehouse in the nation is where the battle for abortion rights is being waged, NOT the U.S. Supreme Court. In fact, the U.S. Supreme Court could attempt to overturn Roe v Wade today if they wanted to, they have the votes. I do not believe they do. Roe is settled law.
**Respect and equal opportunity is first and foremost for women. Hillary was shown neither by my party or her opponent Obama. Shame on them. It's a pretty sad day for the Democrats when the Republicans beat them to "finish cracking the hard, glass ceiling".
Thank you Hillary Clinton for the more than 18 million cracks.
We are waiting for you in 2012.
"No self respecting woman should wish or work for the success of a party which ignores her sex" Susan B. Anthony
Posted by: JK | August 29, 2008 3:29 PM | Report abuse
Some advice for future Afrocentric presidential candidates: it's wrong to build a claim for a historic equality candidacy on a foundation that is built by leveraging bigotry and bashing of another group of people.
Posted by: AsperGirl | August 29, 2008 3:27 PM | Report abuse
Two things come to mind when watching them together:
McCain has a well-documented "temperament" problem where he doesn't always get along with people--Obama had a good little zinger about that last night in his speech. Picking someone so inexperienced that he could paternalize might have been more appealing than a man who might talk back and possibly disagree with him.
Second, how are the die-hard conservatives--including women who are not in favor of mothers working outside the home--going to take to a woman who reportedly went back to work three days after giving birth to a baby with Down syndrome?
Posted by: mkchaump | August 29, 2008 3:27 PM | Report abuse
This feels like a hail mary to me, which is surprising given the closeness of the polls. It blows McCain's best argument (experience; it matters here because he is a 72-year old cancer surviver). Not three years ago this woman was mayor of a town less than half the size of Coos Bay, Oregon. Now she's governor of a state with fewer people than Portland, OR. And she comes with her own scandal. Terrific.
Posted by: feralboy12 | August 29, 2008 3:26 PM | Report abuse
Would a TV network hire her as the evening news anchor?
Posted by: Mark-NYC | August 29, 2008 3:24 PM | Report abuse
John M: It is nice to see how clairvoyant you are NOT - for you are ignorant of what you speak. The fact of the matter is that casting Hillary Clinton aside was the most arrogant, foolish, short-sighted wrong-headed political move since the selection of Thomas Eagleton.
There is no way that those who Obama so desperately needs to reach - the generic Hillary voter - are going to hold their nose and pull the lever for him now.
Just the fact that you made such a faux high minded comment as to accuse me of astroturfing with nothing to support your position simply shows that you don't have a clue what matters to the swing voter and what this election is about. Sure - Obama has the far left and the netroots. But that isn't going to get him elected - and neither is Joe Biden.
Posted by: Ike Barnes Ohio Democrat | August 29, 2008 3:24 PM | Report abuse
Sounds lika a 1/2 baked Alaska lie!
Posted by: jus4laughs | August 29, 2008 3:23 PM | Report abuse
The Repulican pick confirms my thoughts. They have no fear of Biden who? He has 18 years experience as a hot air ballon and a Catholic who supports killing babies. I can't wait for the debate.
Posted by: Benhurdog | August 29, 2008 3:22 PM | Report abuse
Surely I'm not the only person who wonders what cynical and misguided logic they're using in the GOP. The reason feminists support Hillary is not merely because she's a woman, it's because her beliefs are antithetical to conservative traditions. The choice of Ms. Palin is hollow symbolism by comparison.
Posted by: boscobobb | August 29, 2008 3:22 PM | Report abuse
I keep reading the comments & all the posters saying she has no experience, well neither does Obama. John McCain is very wise. When the debates start Obama's camp cannot point that fact out. It would be like shooting himself in the foot.
A woman, mother of 5, clean record, The best choice McCain could have made.
Posted by: Excited independent woman voter | August 29, 2008 3:22 PM | Report abuse
The Repulican pick confirms my thoughts. They have no fear of Biden who? He has 18 years experience as a hot air ballon and a Catholic who supports killing babies. I can't wait for the debate.
Posted by: Benhurdog | August 29, 2008 3:21 PM | Report abuse
Stick a fork in McCain he's done!!! Game, Set and Match! Victory Obama!!!
If any former Clinton supporter falls for this trick, they need serious medical attention. This selection is a slap in the face for them and if they don't see it, shame on them.
As mentioned before, the experience issue goes out the window when the VP has less experience and is less qualified than the guy running for Pres in the other party. What a joke.
Additionally, she talks about her child having autism. Do you really think she take care of her child? Can you say Nanny? Sure you can.
McCain just shot himself in the foot!
Posted by: Say What?!?!?! | August 29, 2008 3:21 PM | Report abuse
For some of the Die-hard repubs, MCcain could have chosen our dead president R. Reagan and they would probably say it was a good choice. This just goes to show you that you can only help those that want to be helped.
Posted by: MD Man | August 29, 2008 3:21 PM | Report abuse
Hillary or McCain
We told you so...
Posted by: 344ty | August 29, 2008 3:20 PM | Report abuse
Meantime...its a great news day to relase that as a former flaming liberal talk-show host, you've been sentenced to seven years and three months in federal prison for child porn charges....
Posted by: Bernie Ward - Father of San Francisco Values | August 29, 2008 3:20 PM | Report abuse
Meantime...its a great news day to relase that as a former flaming liberal talk-show host, you've been sentenced to seven years and three months in federal prison for child porn charges....
Posted by: Bernie Ward - Father of San Francisco Values | August 29, 2008 3:19 PM | Report abuse
For some of the Die-hard repubs, MCcain could have chosen our dead president R. Reagan and they would probably say it was a good choice. This just goes to show you that you can only help those that want to be helped.
Posted by: MD Man | August 29, 2008 3:18 PM | Report abuse
Hillary or McCain
We told you so...
Posted by: 344ty | August 29, 2008 3:16 PM | Report abuse
I am shocked that my friend and toilet mate John McCain picked a woman as his running mate. Women are not allowed in the men's room of airport bathrooms, so consequently the party will need to make arrangements to have a video broadcast her speeches into the men's room of the Minneapolis airport where my party will be hosting its convention.
I was hoping that my friend John McCain would have picked that guy with the sweet mullet haircut - he would have been an exciting fresh face in the men's restroom cruising scene. Of course, I would have gone ga-ga, or should I say goo-goo for the guy with the fabulous coif and the magic underwear! Talk about a fashion home run in the world of toilet hijinks!
Or he could have picked that delightful hot young brown twink in Louisiana. He would be another hot, fresh face in the world of toilet cruisers.
Karl "Hot Karl" Rove tells me that he thinks that this choice can pick off the pant suit broads because they're too stupid to realize that this broad from Alaska doesn't stand for a single issue that Hillary Clinton does. No matter, this selection detracts from our mission to bring all closeted Republican toilet sex cruisers into the mainstream.
Posted by: Sen Larry Craig (R-ID) | August 29, 2008 3:15 PM | Report abuse
AS a huge Hillary Clinton supporter and PUMA member, thank you John McCain! Brilliant. The democrats are going to learn the hard way that they should not have dismissed their biggest demographic. It is now the Democratic party that is going to find out how it feels to get screwed by people they take for granted.
Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 3:14 PM | Report abuse
McC: Get me a woman for VP! Any woman will do! Best if she can shoot a gun and fly a plane. Don't worry about any other qualifications. The Neocon cabal will brief her. Cheney will still do her job while she minds the baby.
Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 3:14 PM | Report abuse
Palin appears to be bright, attractive and of moderate temperment. Obviously McCain picked her in an attempt to shore up some of his flaws. Instead, he proved Obama's point. McCain doesn't have the judgment we need in the next leader of the free world if he thinks Palin will attract enough Hilary supporters and women to send him to White House.
In this case, on size does not fit all. One women is not a substitute for another. We know Hilary Clinton, we fought along side Hilary Clinton, Hilary Clinton SHARED OUR VIEWS AND VALUES. The ultra conservative, right wing, pro-life Sarah Palin is no Hilary Clinton.
McCain doesn't get it. We want a change in policy, not just a change of gender. Sarah Palin offers more of the same conservative ideology that helped get us into this economic and foriegn policy mess.
I'm with Hilary Clinton. If we want the change Hilary promised, then Barack Obama is the change we need.
Obama/Biden '08
Posted by: Kay | August 29, 2008 3:14 PM | Report abuse
So McCain falls of his perch in office and we've got a 40-something mom of five kids, ex mayor of a hicktown in Alaska as commander in chief?
Hmmm...At least with Obama he's got the depth of Biden to lean on, plus if anything happened to Obama (not that he's on his last legs like McCain), Biden steps in.
She is hot though, I'll give you that.
Posted by: McCainIsSenile | August 29, 2008 3:13 PM | Report abuse
I think we should see more of Palin's background...and see her on the campaign trail before forming judgements.
And, incidentally, Chris:
You can "home in" on an object...or you can "hone" an object...but YOU CAN'T "hone in" on an object.
Posted by: Parsifal | August 29, 2008 3:12 PM | Report abuse
I think we should see more of Palin's background...and see her on the campaign trail before forming judgements.
And, incidentally, Chris:
You can "home in" on an object...or you can "hone" an object...but YOU CAN'T "hone in" on an object.
Posted by: Parsifal | August 29, 2008 3:11 PM | Report abuse
It's funny cause I thought she might break into "you Don't Impress Me Much" at the microphone today...and I would have said
"right back at ya, ...Shania"
Posted by: dl | August 29, 2008 3:11 PM | Report abuse
LOL! It's so hilarious watching all these dailykos sockpuppets and other netroot trolls now posting faux-reader pots, posing as old women!
Ha Ha. He he.
You have sunk so low in your desperation.
Posted by: AsperGirl | August 29, 2008 3:10 PM | Report abuse
BLC wrote:
Alaska's population: 670,000
USA's population: 300,000,000
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BLC,
What is the population in Chicago’s South Side neighborhood?
Posted by: rbas1 | August 29, 2008 3:10 PM | Report abuse
Please please if anyone gets near this woman...ask her the questions and please elaborate on the list
that I put below.
She needs to be questioned on everything from the history of the mujahadeen to trade agreements with China...
many of these I saw Obama and Biden answer adeptly on the trail...
constitutional questions...historic military questions... world market questions...etc
that a woman with 5 and a half year of any kinf of experience (3 being mayor of a town of 9000) likely has very very little knowledge of
Posted by: dl | August 29, 2008 3:10 PM | Report abuse
"Ike Barnes", your astroturfing couldn't be more transparent.
Posted by: John M, | August 29, 2008 3:09 PM | Report abuse
In this photo at least, she reminds me of Tina Fey -- without the wit.
Posted by: Carmine | August 29, 2008 3:09 PM | Report abuse
I'd like to be able to read the minds of Tim Pawlenty, Tom Ridge, and Mitt Romney about now.
Posted by: Cee | August 29, 2008 3:09 PM | Report abuse
Does McCain know that if Palin gets hurt or is in a car accident or something, he can't trade her in for a hotter, younger VP?
Posted by: Hillary2012 | August 29, 2008 3:09 PM | Report abuse
Any so-called "Hillary supporter" who would vote for John McCain--insuring a right-wing Supreme Court for the next generation, guaranteeing the death of Roe v. Wade, etc.--is a liar, a fool, or both.
Posted by: stevefromsacto | August 29, 2008 3:09 PM | Report abuse
This isn't about the good of the country; it's about winning the election. McCain didn't care about selecting someone who was ready to be president should he fail to complete his term. For years now the Republican spinmeisters have focused on ways to eke out elections not unify the country. This is a clever tactical move governed solely by self-interst. McCain isn't targeting all Hillary voters, especially not those who would call themselves "sisters of the traveling pants." He's after working class working women who are married, not single. The nomination was designed to divert media attention from the historic nomination of Obama the morning after the McCain handlers knew Obama would have delivered a powerful speech. They also know that in the VP debate, Biden can't "attack" Palin or he'll look churlish. This nomination was designed to firm up McCain's base, which it probably has, and then peel away just enough working class women, especially Catholics, to squeak out a win in states like Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan, Missouri, and maybe Minnesota.
Posted by: RW | August 29, 2008 3:09 PM | Report abuse
It's a GOOD think she is no Hillary clinton- people will not want to instantly turn off their TV everytime she comes on like they did with Hillary.
Posted by: Tim Kelley | August 29, 2008 3:08 PM | Report abuse
This race is close, so says the polls. There was always the (dreaded)thought that McC might win. Now it is a nightmare if he wins. With his age who knows what could happen. We turn the country over to a governor with 19 months experience? Oh my, God. Deliver us from this. Just LOOK at what you believe to be qualifications for president: "She is young, beautiful, mother of 5, NRA Life Member, pro heterosexual marriage, pro-life, pro-environment, pro-energy independence, pro military, mother of a soldier, a hunter, a fisherwoman,". With these qualifications, many women in America could run for VP. Now you know why we are not only scared of McC, but have been scared of voters like you. Certainly the Republicans had better qualified people and woman that this one.
Sarah Palin is the nightmare that scares the heck out of the libs. She is young, beautiful, mother of 5, NRA Life Member, pro heterosexual marriage, pro-life, pro-environment, pro-energy independence, pro military, mother of a soldier, a hunter, a fisherwoman, and her husband is a man's man and not some metro-sexual girly man.
Ooooraaahh! Obama is done son.
Posted by: Dave
Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 3:08 PM | Report abuse
"Based on the majority of these comments you can just tell the Dems are quaking in their boots over this selection. Brilliant choice."
Republican logic at work here - everyone in the world pointing out what a stupid choice this is must mean we're scared. McCain's best argument is gone.
Again, you win the news cycle and lose the election. BRILLIANT!
Posted by: kreuz_missile | August 29, 2008 3:08 PM | Report abuse
In the classic 80's movie "Hunt for Red October" the climactic battle scene ended when the Russian attack submarine was sunk by its own torpedo. Just prior to that climax, the second in command of the doomed submarine looked at his Captain in complete disgust and said, "You arrogant ass - you have killed us all!"
With that classic movie line in mind, and understanding the not-so-subtle brilliance of McCain's choice of Governor Palin, I offer the following comment to those wise leaders of our doomed party:
YOU ARROGANT ASSES - YOU HAVE KILLED OUR CHANCES AT THE PRESIDENCY - AGAIN!
I sent this, first, to Barack Obama - but also to his facilitators David Axelrod, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, Ted Kennedy (who I used to admire), Chris Matthews and others. By the sheer stupidity born from blind arrogance in your rush to cast Hillary Clinton aside you have doomed the party's chances in a year when it should have been a lay-up. You all deserve what you get - and how history will ignore you. Sadly, the rest of us are the ones who will suffer your foolishness.
Posted by: Ike Barnes Ohio Democrat | August 29, 2008 3:08 PM | Report abuse
Wow! McOld picked Karen Walker from Will & Grace for VP!!! Now the White House will have a happy hour 24/7!!!
Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 3:08 PM | Report abuse
And no doubt Ms. Palin's health care needs, as well as those of her spouse, able children, and special needs child, are all being covered by the taxpayers of Alaska. Should she be elected VP, her family's health care will largely be financed by American taxpayers. Does that comport with the health care needs of the nearly 50 million Americans who are unable to get health insurance? McCain's "plan" will not address those whose wages are simply too meager to afford health care, despite any kind of tax credit. Palin is not "every woman" by a long shot.
Posted by: David | August 29, 2008 3:08 PM | Report abuse
"Sarah Palin, you are NO Hillary Clinton!"
And thank god for that!!!!!!
Posted by: Hillbillery | August 29, 2008 3:08 PM | Report abuse
The problem I see with McCain picking a Veep to pull Hillary dems is that that canidate is a catch 22. If she is pro-choice she pisses off the Republican base and he loses votes. If she is pro-life, she helps his base incrementally but damages her standing with Hillary dems who who are overwhelmingly feminists and who hold abortion rights as a top issue.
The question now is are the Hillary dems just interested in a woman in a top executive position or in the issues that they tend to hold dearest.
Posted by: DaveinFL | August 29, 2008 3:08 PM | Report abuse
Bimbo from nowhere. Looks like McCain sews up the Geezer vote.
Sexy. Not the first desirable that comes to mind when a true leader is looking to name the next in line for Commander in Chief, especially when I try to sell myself as the party of national security, especially when the wannabee President is 72.
Just how many lapses in judgment does the GOP intend to inflict on this nation?
Posted by: Sara B. | August 29, 2008 3:08 PM | Report abuse
watch as they install the many arms of handlers up her backside so they can better control her.
Listen as she goes from lively, to a person reading the daily talking points with outstanding composure, and not a ounce of personality, and just concentrating on getting the talking points taken care of, the usual daily GOP propaganda, et al.
this woman will never be the same, and will take the same puppeting class that all the GOP had gone before her had taken.
Interesting choice, for a GOP puppet.
Better to look at than the old codger crumudgeon McCain.
But still .... another carefully selected puppet.
Will she still be smiling in a month, two months?
Odds are that she'll be grinning from ear to ear and for what reason, the white house will not tell.
Maybe it's something they put into their coffee.
Off camera, she will probably curse the very day she acquiesced to the GOP call of puppetry, wizardry and witchcraft.
Posted by: pgibson1 | August 29, 2008 3:07 PM | Report abuse
I think this is the best pick McCain could make, but his options weren't good.
I can't imagine how McCain and Palin will create a coherent administration. The pairing seems too imbalanced in his favor. Will there be any of "Palin's people" in the administration at all?
How will they govern? That's the question.
Posted by: mruth | August 29, 2008 3:07 PM | Report abuse
This is an insult to the American people.
She is a talented woman but she has no experience at all. Alaska is a tiny population deeply subsidized by the federal government and oil revenue.
Those who compare her experience with Obama's simply are altering the facts.8 years in the legislature of one our largest states and 4 years in the US senate compared to two years as the volunteer mayor of a village of 5400 and 18 months as governor of our smallest population state is no contest.
Her positions tend to the extremist end of the Republican Party and she has no record on foreign policy or national defense.
Posted by: Pragmatist | August 29, 2008 3:07 PM | Report abuse
This is certainly a stunner:
Posted by: piktor | August 29, 2008 3:07 PM | Report abuse
Those of you Hillary supporters considering sending your vote to McCain are doing women and your country a disservice. "Sending a message" to Obama in doing so, insures that the principals YOU believe in will be squandered. Please review McCain's record - look at Palin's record. After all, that's all we can really rely on. The media is biased on both sides. You either watch Fox or MSNBC. Its up to you to compare the candidates...make an informed decision. I was a Hillary supporter but I can't in good conscience vote for McCain given his record, given the insanity of the last 8 years and given the obvious tactic to try to manipulate me by nominating a woman for VP. After seeing Barack's speech.... I can't disagree with anything he says or stands for. Come on ladies......don't be played!
Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 3:06 PM | Report abuse
bprittenhouse
I agree
The hypocrisy of this choice after the past three months of scare tactics, the lack of worry for the country heaven forbid he can't finish his term,
the sheer tactical nature of this for an election ...
giving absolutely no weight to what the actual role is for.
sad that he cares so much for his own election that he worries not what would happen to us if he were gone.
Posted by: dl | August 29, 2008 3:06 PM | Report abuse
did Obama give a speech last night? I hadn't heard. I can only guess it was the usual fluff and empty promises about all the free stuff we will all get, except you productive americans. you can expect to be punished in accordance with your hard work and sacrifice and success.
And this is the new politcs? same as the old. Moldy.
Posted by: kingofzouk | August 29, 2008 3:06 PM | Report abuse
The concept being advocated in the blogs that disgruntled demoncratic women would vote for the Republican ticket strictly because a women is the Vice Presidential nominee is ridiculous. Govenor Palin's views and beliefs are so contrary to Senator Clinton's that it is hard to understand why anyone who supported the Senator whould even consider Govenor Palin worthy of leading this country. It is also annoying when the press (print, tv, or online) gives creedance to these blogs without understanding who writes them or what information was used to support the statements.
Posted by: MN in Austin | August 29, 2008 3:06 PM | Report abuse
Posted by: daman1
As a Republican man I'm proud my party will be the first to elect a woman VP (and future President, I predict). Way to go!
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Fool.
Posted by: Aunt Esther | August 29, 2008 3:05 PM | Report abuse
You are kidding, right? Now tell me whom he really picked.
Posted by: bodo | August 29, 2008 3:05 PM | Report abuse
The old crafty Vet steals headlines from the Rock Star Obama with his VP Pick!!!
Posted by: Tim Kelley | August 29, 2008 3:05 PM | Report abuse
"Republicans are going to be saying "
Not this undecided, he has my vote from here on out.
Posted by: 3455 | August 29, 2008 3:04 PM | Report abuse
Based on the majority of these comments you can just tell the Dems are quaking in their boots over this selection. Brilliant choice.
Posted by: Ron | August 29, 2008 3:04 PM | Report abuse
Wait until the nation- and Hillary supporters- learn that:
1. She is under investigation for misconduct involving her entire family's efforts to get a state trooper fired after he divorced her sister. seee www.andrewhalcro.com
2. She believes that victims of rape and incest should be required to carry babies of criminals to term.
3. She is a firm believer in creationism.
4. She knows nothing about foreign policy and national security issues. Joe Biden should offer to debate her weekly around the country.
Posted by: ratfishtim | August 29, 2008 3:04 PM | Report abuse
Why?
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"Palin on the ticket will now energize the conservatives that are typically lukewarm to McCain. Bold move and certainly has some liberals wetting themselves."
Good call, Although im not sure the few tinkles that escape between chuckles are something they are concerned about.
Posted by: Josh | August 29, 2008 3:01 PM
Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 3:03 PM | Report abuse
Did somebody really call her speech today "Presidential"
You have watched "Working Girl" one time too many.
Shania Twain video yes...presidential ...ugh.
c'mon people it's not that she is a woman...we have presidential women Hillary whether you like her or not...Hutchinson... even one of the women from Minnesota or Maine.
you do not pick a candidate to be your vp just because she is a woman yet is absolutely 50 potentials down the list in qualifications.
can you imagine the scramble our country would hjave to do if McCain was killed and she was the VP? oy.
Posted by: dl | August 29, 2008 3:03 PM | Report abuse
Was Barry's grandfather a witch doctor??
On the night of Thursday, March 26, 1933 number of Mau Mau gangs attacked simultaneously in an area about six miles by three in the Uplands District, about 25 miles from Nairobi. The attacks were carefully planned by a wtich doctor from Kogelo. The method adopted was to wire up huts from the outside, set fire to the roofs and cut down the people with axes and swords as they tried to escape from the windows. Between 40 and 50 huts were burned. Of their inhabitants, 71 were murdered, 51 are still missing, and 50 were wounded.
Most of the dead are women and children who were cut down as they ran through the maize plots. The heat of the fires was intense. Many people ran away in terror: often only the charred bodies of the victims were left. Thus it 1037 is difficult to estimate the casualties with accuracy, and the final figures will probably prove higher than those I have given.
About 2,000 inhabitants of the location have been screened and some hundreds have been detained, of whom at least 150 have been identified by survivors as having taken part in the massacre. A large party of police and an extra company of the King's African Rifles are now conducting an extensive investigation in the area. About the same time a gang attacked Naivasha Police Station and killed three constables and some prisoners. They were unable to break into the police armoury but forced the adjoining Kenya Police Reserve armoury and stole about thirty .303 rifles, 18 Lanchester sub-machine guns and a double-barrelled shot gun, and some rifle and revolver ammunition. While the attack on the police station was going on, another part of the gang released 137 remanded prisoners of whom some 50 have since been recaptured or have returned of their own accord. Military and police forces are now combing the district.
Posted by: Grandpa McSame | August 29, 2008 3:03 PM | Report abuse
Sarah Palin, you are NO Hillary Clinton!
Posted by: aBigSAM | August 29, 2008 3:03 PM | Report abuse
The Obama campaign's first response to McCain's selection of Governor Palin missed the mark. The biggest problem with this pick is not Palin's inexperience, it's what it says about John McCain. Either McCain believes he is immortal, or he has just admitted that he has been lying for months that he considers decades of foreign policy experience to be the essential qualification for the presidency at this point in history.
Posted by: bprittenhouse | August 29, 2008 3:02 PM | Report abuse
So, McCain spends all summer claiming that Obama doesn't have enough experience, claims that the most important qualification for the VP spot is being ready to take over the presidency, then turns around and does this? Highly disingenuous to say the least, and I think independents are going to notice it.
Posted by: John M. | August 29, 2008 3:02 PM | Report abuse
McCain's mom is 94. He's lived to 72. Obama's Mom: Died of cancer.
Obama's Dad, died in 1982.
Obama's a smoker.
Instead of "heartbeat" from the Presidency, Dems should worry about "a lung tumor" from the Presidency.
Because Biden ain't exactly a spring chicken and has had a friggin aneurysm.
"I'm not Just a Member of the Hair Plug Club, I'm the President -of the United States. Oh, my head...."
Can't wait till Grandma McCain arm wrestles Biden into submission.
Wait, he's a Democrat, he'll surrender.
Posted by: Healthy as a Horse | August 29, 2008 3:02 PM | Report abuse
Hey Priceless. It's no wonder the country still yearns for Obama to reintroduce himself, considering most of his past seems either non-existent or willfully concealed. I still have no idea what he did as a "community organizer". Why are there no transcripts or videos we can see to give us insight into his history? Why has he concealed his relationship with Ayers (via the U of Chicago library)? It might also be interesting to know what he did while on his 3-week vacation in Pakistan when he was a young man. I mean.... Who goes to Pakistan on "vacation"?
Posted by: Pricemore | August 29, 2008 3:02 PM | Report abuse
Whatever you want to say - McCain's Pick has everyone talking as can be sen on this sight and that ALONE is a victory that steals thunder from the buzz of DNC in Denver and Barack's acceptance speech....so WHATEVER you want to say- you cannot deny it has done it's job in stealing the headlines.
Posted by: Tim Kelley, St. Paul, MN | August 29, 2008 3:02 PM | Report abuse
Thats exactly right. It's not like the POW card he can keep playing. In a few days he is really going to have to show why she was picked. Once the novelty wares off Republicans are going to be saying "WTF"
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He does know he doesn't get to pick somebody else after the 24 hour news cycle runs out, right?
Posted by: Pamela Crossley | August 29, 2008 2:58 PM
Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 3:01 PM | Report abuse
"Palin on the ticket will now energize the conservatives that are typically lukewarm to McCain. Bold move and certainly has some liberals wetting themselves."
Good call, Although im not sure the few tinkles that escape between chuckles are something they are concerned about.
Posted by: Josh | August 29, 2008 3:01 PM | Report abuse
Finally, a decision I can get behind.
You go John McCain !!!
Posted by: Sheila | August 29, 2008 3:01 PM | Report abuse
What a spectacular blunder on Captain America's part. McCain said the chief criteria he has for choosing a vice-presidential running mate was the person's ability to assume office should anything happen to him.
He just chose an unknown political neophyte for the job. She would be one old man's heart beat away from the Presidency of the United States? Is he sane?
The secret service would be wise to expand McCain's security detail going into St. Oaul next week. He''ll need protection from members of his own party.
Posted by: JMFulton, Jr | August 29, 2008 3:01 PM | Report abuse
Chris starts off the the speculation:
-- The McCain campaign had make little secret of the fact that they wanted to pick a woman as the Arizona senator's running mate, believing that the rift caused by the protracted primary between Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton gave them an opportunity to pick up scads of disgruntled women. --
Not being a chick - my worldview is what it is. But here's an interesting observation from another forum:
--eyeswideopen2 wrote:
I'm sorry to say this (and not looking to offend anyone) but I cannot get behind anyone who participated in beauty pageants. I don't get how any Hill supporter would be willing to look the other way on this. Can you think of a more demeaning (or vacuous) pursuit? This is who they want to put in charge?
Plus, I think it's pretty start and a big contrast - Obama picked a running mate to help cover some particular aspect of governning that he felt needed improvement. It's clear that McCain's choice has nothing to do with actual governing and everything to do solely with getting elected. How craven is that?
8/29/2008 2:50:01 PM--
Ok, so do we (men) really think that McCain is trying to appeal to the modern working women of 2008 by picking a beauty contestant?
Posted by: NoOneImportant | August 29, 2008 3:00 PM | Report abuse
I never realized how much I hate my rights, my country, and my uterus until this very moment. We CAN do better.
NOBAMA HUSSEIN!
MCCAIN PALIN!
Posted by: Hillary Fan Converted to Palin | August 29, 2008 3:00 PM | Report abuse
I was hoping to get the drug user vote all locked up. now what am I supposed to do?
Posted by: snObama | August 29, 2008 3:00 PM | Report abuse
WOW!!!. I am ecstatic. This is political suicide. Many people thought McCain was out of touch. Now they know it.
Posted by: bee | August 29, 2008 3:00 PM | Report abuse
Sexist comments make you sound ignorant, stay at home dads are quite common.
Best decision in the world John McCain.
Posted by: 56678 | August 29, 2008 2:59 PM | Report abuse
He does know he doesn't get to pick somebody else after the 24 hour news cycle runs out, right?
Posted by: Pamela Crossley | August 29, 2008 2:58 PM | Report abuse
One John McCain Once Commented...Obama will do anything to win votes....
Who's doing anything now in a bid to win votes?
According to Obama, it's not that McCain doesn't care...it's just that he doesn't get it!
And I couldn't agree with that statement more.
People hate Barack because of what he's achieved...if he were white...this would be a phenomenon...I really cannot believe people are already talking accolades for Palin...she's just been introduced for F's sake...and people are eating off her plate!
On the other hand, Barack was introduced years ago, and there's still talk he still needs to introduce himself to America!
Yeah, this is the country that Voted in George Bush in office....get this...TWICE!
Barack's promising to UNITE this freaking country of idiots who cannot spell nor tell where in the World Iran or Iraq is!
This guy's promising to send all you imbeciles to College if you play your part...but I guess your heads are so far up McCain and Palin's Bottoms to even smell the revolution sweeping across Blue Collar America!
What more do you want Barack to do? How much further should this guy grovel before some of you numnuts eventually get it that the US...is all hype and marketing...SuperPower my multi racial bottom.
I cry for this country...I really cry for sanity to prevail and that some intelligence, no matter how miniscule, may infect the national psyche!
Posted by: Priceless | August 29, 2008 2:58 PM | Report abuse
What a hugh mistake in selecting Palin. She sounds like a wonderful person but from Hockey Mom to VP. She has more experience on the hockey ice than in foreign affairs or for that matter the economy. McCain is desperate and it shows. Remember he said "the VP is just a heart beat away from the Presidency". Would you like her answering the phone at 3am in the morning to a national crisis?
McCain is so deperate to win that he would put this country in jepardy in order to get the Presidency. Just another error in judgement Mr.McBush!
Posted by: John | August 29, 2008 2:58 PM | Report abuse
What a sad day for women.
If ex-Hillary supporters now choose to support this ticket (after complaining that there opposition to Obama is due to his lack of experience) it will show that the real issue wasn't experience, it was bitterness and sexism at its finest.
Mayor of a town less than 10,000 and governor of a state less than 650k.
Posted by: HA!HA!HA! | August 29, 2008 2:57 PM | Report abuse
She is a drug user, (admitted) and will be the latest tabloid trash in just a few days. This is going to be a huge embarrassment for the Republicans. The democrats will not have to do a thing but watch. Look for the Enquire to track down her supplier in no time. Money talks.
Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 2:57 PM | Report abuse
This should be pretty easy for the Democrats to handle-
Discussion of age and experience as cornerstone of McCain's plan is now moot. VP choice is a self-described "hockey mom" with a very very thin resume. point- obama
VP choice Palin- like Bush/Cheney is of the old energy vested interest crowd. point-obama
Anti-choice Christian conservative drawing Hillary's Women? Seriously? Point- Obama
Posted by: ethel | August 29, 2008 2:57 PM | Report abuse
'Hillary Fan Converted to Palin' = Karl Rove in Drag
Posted by: msreason | August 29, 2008 2:56 PM | Report abuse
As a Republican man I'm proud my party will be the first to elect a woman VP (and future President, I predict). Way to go!
Posted by: daman1 | August 29, 2008 2:56 PM | Report abuse
Please please Chris somebody ask her the questions like
how many countries in the middle east and asia are nuclear?
I posted a start of questions that she should be asked that i am almost positive Obama and Biden could answer in detail and she would have no idea...
This is a woman that refutes global warming.
again
Do you think she will know...
what the mujahadeen is?
or how many countries in the middle east and asia are nuclear?
or the details of the China trade agreements are?
or the history of the Russia Georgia conflict?
or the history of our national tax code?
the details of what a federalist is?
who are all the countries that helped us in the Iraq war?
what are the details of the conflicts and history between Pakistan and India?
who is the military leader of China?
how many Americans are below the level of poverty?
what are our 3 biggest exports?
can she name the Bill of rights?
which document and piece deals with the separation of church and state?
where the authority of the President stops and congress begins..?
what she thinks the details are of Presidential signing statements?
what were our two worst foreign policy blunders in our history in her opinion?
the list goes on... and on of basics in governing that a woman who served for a year and a half (the length of the primaries) as gov of a state like Alaska...and 3 years as mayor of a town of 9000 most likely will not know 99% of them.
I am pretty sure Obama and Biden could answer all of these...
I think McCain could answer some ...
I have a feeling she would have trouble...and this is a very small part of what she would need to have just a general understanding of in the situation we are about to proceed into if a 72 year old who had cancer twice could not serve his whole term.
Posted by: dl | August 29, 2008 2:56 PM | Report abuse
You can smell the panic in the McCain camp. All the pundits have said the race is about Obama. This proves it--because McCain just said loud and clear this race is about change, not experience.
Gov. Palin seems like a nice, hardworking person. The reformer aspect is appealing. Troopergate isn't going to help her. As talented as she may be, this is an affirmative action move and she is making a huge, huge leap. And this may seem sexist, but I don't know how a "traditional values," "Christian" mother with an infant is going to campaign at the intense rate demanded. I'm all for daddy daycare, but how available is little Trig's mommy going to be to him? Not very. He's not even 5 months old.
Posted by: Kathleen Hussein in Maine | August 29, 2008 2:56 PM | Report abuse
Keep the sexist comments to yourself troglodyte!!!
Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 2:56 PM | Report abuse
I'd rather have a woman like Hillary Rodham Clinton to be a champion on the issues of the people, and she is on the right side of the issues. I look forward to her running again, after I expect Obama to take that White House since these folks don't have a clue. I will be firmly in her corner, and not because she's a woman though I appreciate her strengths in defense of my beliefs behind the issues.
No Way, No How, No McCain - Hillary Clinton
This is not the time to be pandering to gender, instead of explaining reasons for stances (as laid out by Dems and Republicans during the Democratic Convention) on the issues. There's quite some explaining to do. I shall be tuned in to the stark contrast of experiences and points. This shall be interesting. Watch the masses organize and refute this pandering; we're not dumb to be played like puppets (what an insult).
He "just doesn't get it." Of all the issues laid out by the Dems during the convention, I want to see what Palin has to say about McCain's stance against Equal Pay for women indeed while she talks about women's progress. Perhaps she can enlighten us all why she backs McCain who is in to slow progress for women, but yet appointed her VP (after his campaign's exploitive behavior).
Watch the masses trample over this decision, and you better believe there's some serious organization going on. Be ready.
Posted by: Obama2008 | August 29, 2008 2:56 PM | Report abuse
Sarah Palin is the nightmare that scares the heck out of the libs and hate filled pro-abortion/anti-life types.. She is young, beautiful, mother of 5, NRA Life Member, pro heterosexual marriage, pro-life, pro-environment, pro-energy independence, pro military, mother of a soldier, a hunter, a fisherwoman, and her husband is a man's man and not some metro-sexual girly man.
Ooooraaahh! Obama is done son.
Posted by: Dave | August 29, 2008 2:55 PM | Report abuse
LOL....Another barbie for McCain to play with in his seven houses! Palin does not compare to Hillary Clinton in any form. Does anyone want to listen to Palin's squeaky voice for the next four years?
Posted by: Andi | August 29, 2008 2:55 PM | Report abuse
John McCain is a very fluid concept.
1970: war hero
1980: ditched first wife for a younger, prettier model from a wealthy family with suspect connections
1990: keating scandal thief
2000: whitewashed reformer making his power grap
2008: Does John McCain even know who he is?
No only is he not self-aware, but he doesn't know who his party is. The men who don't have a problem with this pick are committed democrats. Northern and West Coast democrats at that.
A reckless and stupid crap shoot of a pick that will cost him Virginia, No Carolina, Georgia and Florida. But he'll get Alaska's 3 votes, and he'll get to hangout with as young and hot a babe as he could hope for. Wow.
Wars certainly can be lost before they are fought. The Republican establishment must be, privately, very upset that McCain went, cynically, with such a lightweight. The pick evokes Clarence Thomas, but has national security impact. And in realpolitiks, Rove has to be furious that now Jeb will have to run against Romney in 2012. McCain won't get the support, and he won't get the turnout that Bush got in '04.
Posted by: Deep Blue | August 29, 2008 2:55 PM | Report abuse
Can I refine my choice of VP now? I am considering handing the nomination back to hillary too. this is hard. how do you vote present in a debate with Mccain. I am shaking in my loafers that I will have to go off script. It will be a first. I um, ah you know, well, like if, then, since, buy, um, uh, .....
Never mind, I am practiced up now.
Posted by: snObama | August 29, 2008 2:55 PM | Report abuse
WOW. The GOP really has nothing to offer except "pro-life." In Europe they would be honest and call themselves the Catholic-Right Party.
Posted by: rusty 3 | August 29, 2008 2:55 PM | Report abuse
What...could you have picked a better VP....her speech was presidential.
My vote...McCain/Palin
Posted by: Palin Fan | August 29, 2008 2:54 PM | Report abuse
This smacks of desperation, just like the Gerry Ferraro choice in 1984.
You have to wonder what McCain is thinking. Kind of runs counter to his experience counts message. But then, Biden does the same for Obama's central theme of change.
But on the most important question, is the VP ready to take over, it's no contest. If Joe Biden has to take over, he gives me a sense of reassureance that he won't require adult supervision. Not so much with Governor Palin.
Alas, thorough review of the internet yields no bikini shots of the former Miss Alaska contestent.
Posted by: Tool4TheMan | August 29, 2008 2:54 PM | Report abuse
To the woman saying "Palin's too inexperienced" -- I have yet to hear an African-American say the same about Obama. Why is it women always expect their own to be 10 Times more experienced than a man just to get their foot in the door?
Posted by: Independant in DC | August 29, 2008 2:54 PM | Report abuse
The reality now is stark and clear.
There are two Americas, the one showcased last night that was inclusive, diverse, young and old, hip, dynamic, open, welcoming, progressive, motivated and thirsting for positive change.
Next week, what we will see in the twin cities is an America that is devoid of just about ALL of the above.
Gone is the excuse that there are no differences between the two parties. They could not be more different!
Now mccain deems it appropriate to reduce/insult Hillary's accomplishments by taking on still another trophy companion. I guess KB Hutchinson was to old and too experienced for the old dog.
There is NO WAY women will be fooled into acceptung this horrific substitute. And by the way, this is not sour grapes. It is unbridled joy that the repubs have given us such an early and meaningful Xmas present!
That said, for the rest of you, choose carefully, because you will get what you vote for!
OBAMA & BIDEN in 2008
Posted by: roxlaw | August 29, 2008 2:53 PM | Report abuse
Republican nominee to be renamed: McCONFUSED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 2:53 PM | Report abuse
Vote for the people you like, what they represent...not the party....Palin's speech was impeccable. She now has my vote!!!! I am excited for the debates. Let's see if Biden tries to bully.
My vote......McCain/Palin
Posted by: Hillary Fan Converted to Palin | August 29, 2008 2:53 PM | Report abuse
A terrible chocie, and a setback for women IMHO. This selection sounds awfully like choosing Monica Goodling for the number 3 post in the justice department. I think such a choice is an insult to women. McCain could have chosen Linda Fiorentina (the former HP CEO) or some other accomplished woman in GOP. Instead he went with someone who was a councilwoman and mayor in a town of 6000 up to two years ago. And don't even start comparing her expirience to Obama's. Obama was a Harvard grad, a law professor and a state legislature for 6 years before being in teh US senate,not a beauty pagent. Besides, the stakes are much higher for McCain's VP. He is 72 years old, and a cancer survivor, so his VP is literally a heartbeat away from presidency.
Posted by: AJ | August 29, 2008 2:53 PM | Report abuse
Sltiowa,
Thousand of people attend military academics each year. Graduation from such academies does not qualify one to be Commander in Chief.
As a member of a military family—including a commissioned officer who served in two wars—I can say with absolute certainty that basic service in the military does not qualify one to be Commander in Chief. A pilot’s work is near the bottom rung on the military ladder. As such, they do not participate in strategic planning, decision making, etc.
Insofar as McCain’s “strong family ties with the military” all I can say is you wouldn’t bring it up if you knew anything about military history. McCain’s grandfather, John S. McCain Sr., assumed command under Adm. Halsey. Together, in 1944, they destroyed the Third Fleet—not in battle, but by steering the fleet into a hurricane: lost 3 destroyers, 140+ aircraft, and killed 800 men. They repeated the same mistake in 1945, in which the recently repaired fleet sustained heavy damages, including lost of 70 aircraft and 6 men. In both disasters, McCain Sr. and Halsey violated fundamental nautical principles regarding sailing in storms.
BTW, McCain Sr. was a graduate of the United States Naval Academy…goes to show you a military education doesn’t qualify anyone to be commander of a fleet, let alone Commander in Chief.
Posted by: Catherine | August 29, 2008 2:53 PM | Report abuse
Sltiowa,
Thousand of people attend military academics each year. Graduation from such academies does not qualify one to be Commander in Chief.
As a member of a military family—including a commissioned officer who served in two wars—I can say with absolute certainty that basic service in the military does not qualify one to be Commander in Chief. A pilot’s work is near the bottom rung on the military ladder. As such, they do not participate in strategic planning, decision making, etc.
Insofar as McCain’s “strong family ties with the military” all I can say is you wouldn’t bring it up if you knew anything about military history. McCain’s grandfather, John S. McCain Sr., assumed command under Adm. Halsey. Together, in 1944, they destroyed the Third Fleet—not in battle, but by steering the fleet into a hurricane: lost 3 destroyers, 140+ aircraft, and killed 800 men. They repeated the same mistake in 1945, in which the recently repaired fleet sustained heavy damages, including lost of 70 aircraft and 6 men. In both disasters, McCain Sr. and Halsey violated fundamental nautical principles regarding sailing in storms.
BTW, McCain Sr. was a graduate of the United States Naval Academy…goes to show you a military education doesn’t qualify anyone to be commander of a fleet, let alone Commander in Chief.
Posted by: Catherine | August 29, 2008 2:53 PM | Report abuse
A terrible chocie, and a setback for women IMHO. This selection sounds awfully like choosing Monica Goodling for the number 3 post in the justice department. I think such a choice is an insult to women. McCain could have chosen Linda Fiorentina (the former HP CEO) or some other accomplished woman in GOP. Instead he went with someone who was a councilwoman and mayor in a town of 6000 up to two years ago. And don't even start comparing her expirience to Obama's. Obama was a Harvard grad, a law professor and a state legislature for 6 years before being in teh US senate,not a beauty pagent. Besides, the stakes are much higher for McCain's VP. He is 72 years old, and a cancer survivor, so his VP is literally a heartbeat away from presidency.
Posted by: AJ | August 29, 2008 2:53 PM | Report abuse
Oh please, let Tina Fey return to Saturday Night Live for a few guest spots. They're practically twins!
BB
Posted by: Fairlington Blade | August 29, 2008 2:53 PM | Report abuse
I couldn't decide until now. McCain has a good record, but instead of trying to get independent votes, he goes for a conservative VP. That's it for me. I'll vote for Obama.
Posted by: vv | August 29, 2008 2:53 PM | Report abuse
Wow!!!!! What a speech....It isn't about which political party you belong to...it is about the person. Palin delivered a perfect speech. I have officially converted.
McCain/Palin you have my vote!!!!
Posted by: Hillary Fan Converted to Palin | August 29, 2008 2:50 PM | Report abuse
I get the feeling that is McCain didn't pick a woman- people would have said if you don't vote for Obama- you are a racist-now we can counter and say if you don't vote Mcain Palin- you are a cheuvenist pig...ha ...what a mess
Posted by: Tim Kelley, St. Paul, MN | August 29, 2008 2:50 PM | Report abuse
Let me see if I understand things…
McCain picks Palin as his running mate but he and practically every other conservative/Republican ‘Talking Head’ have been screaming about Obama’s lack of experience and how this would be disastrous for our country. The argument is “We need to have experienced leadership who understand the big picture. We need leadership that recognizes the complexities of our national economy, the world economy, world politics, and a dearth of issues that only a seasoned and experienced leader can effectively manage and understand.” The argument of choosing or even considering Obama brings tremendous risk to our economy, our national security, etc.
McCain then picks Palin, a woman, who is two years from overseeing Wasilla, AK. She was mayor of a town of 6,700 people just two years ago!!! This left her experienced in matters like “Who’s got moose patrol today?” and “Is John Boy going to get over to the town square so he can fix the our traffic light?” and “What can the community do to ensure Mr. Wibble gets enough sales so he will start reopening the market on Sundays?”
The thinking is “Let’s pick a girl so we can get all of those disenchanted Hillary voters to swing and vote for us. Palin’s pro-life and she’ll swing those hard-line Christian voters our way.” Let’s pick her even if, basically, we’re one stroke or heart attack away from this woman becoming President.
McCain turned 72 years old today and is looking to tackle one of the most stressful jobs in the world and his thinking, thinking that the best thing for the good of the country, convey how he really understands the big picture, and look to create a compelling ticket of experienced leadership…is to pick a woman two years removed from the big politics of Wasilla, AK to be the best person to replace him if something should happen?!?!?
In my book, that’s not looking at what’s best for our country, it’s only looking to ‘Win and win at any cost”…even at the expense of putting someone utterly and tremendously inexperienced in, arguably, the most important role in the world - one who is a heartbeat away going from “How are we going to keep the bears away from our town dump?” to “Should I push the big red button?”
What a Fu$%ing joke!!!
Obama for President. It’s so right that anything else would be wrong.
Posted by: Big DECK | August 29, 2008 2:50 PM | Report abuse
She doesn't need to debate anyone.
Obama doesn't...
Posted by: 5667 | August 29, 2008 2:50 PM | Report abuse
I don't know about the choice but the timing was perfect!
Dems, the game has just begun, why don't you sit down and watch the pros play!
The rookie and his foster granpa will be history in weeks!
Posted by: Caronte | August 29, 2008 2:50 PM | Report abuse
Wow!!!!! What a speech....It isn't about which political party you belong to...it is about the person. Palin delivered a perfect speech. I have officially converted.
McCain/Palin you have my vote!!!!
Posted by: Hillary Fan Converted to Palin | August 29, 2008 2:50 PM | Report abuse
Wow!!!!! What a speech....It isn't about which political party you belong to...it is about the person. Palin delivered a perfect speech. I have officially converted.
McCain/Palin you have my vote!!!!
Posted by: Hillary Fan Converted to Palin | August 29, 2008 2:50 PM | Report abuse
Daman1: No, What you don't understand is that there is a very good chance that Palin may be called upon to serve as stand in President. Very few people know anything at all about this woman and there isn't enough time to found out. The majority of Americans (at least the smart ones) will not take the chance of entrusting the country to a stranger. Strength of character she may have, but that's no use if no bugger knows that!
Catastrophic choice in actual fact;
feel free to put your head back up your backside.
Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 2:50 PM | Report abuse
Don't bet she will get beat by Biden in the debate...She is a tough cookie AND she has more experience than Obama does.
Posted by: daman1 | August 29, 2008 2:50 PM | Report abuse
+++++########NEWSFLASH########+++++
Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama's campaign on Friday blasted his Republican rival's choice of Alaska Governor Sarah Palin as a running-mate, highlighting her "zero" foreign policy experience.
"Today, John McCain put the former mayor of a town of 9,000 with zero foreign policy experience a heartbeat away from the presidency," Obama spokesman Bill Burton said in a statement.
"Hello Kettle?? You're Black !!" O-Bama Campaign
The lady doth protest too much, methinks.
William Shakespeare
Posted by: ######NEWSFLASH###### | August 29, 2008 2:50 PM | Report abuse
Republicans see more clearly where this nation should be headed. McCain/Palin has won my vote!
Godd cause you don't...she pro everything this is the problem with people voting they just vote for who ever
she voted against equal pay
her husband works for BP (oil)
oooh she forgot to put that in before the fishing
she pro-everything
and have you forgotten about our troops
ooh i guess you dont have friiends and family members serving
oooh yeahh you say she a woman...a hole
Posted by: soldier | August 29, 2008 2:50 PM | Report abuse
Republicans see more clearly where this nation should be headed. McCain/Palin has won my vote!
Godd cause you don't...she pro everything this is the problem with people voting they just vote for who ever
she voted against equal pay
her husband works for BP (oil)
oooh she forgot to put that in before the fishing
she pro-everything
and have you forgotten about our troops
ooh i guess you dont have friiends and family members serving
oooh yeahh you say she a woman...a hole
Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 2:50 PM | Report abuse
Republicans see more clearly where this nation should be headed. McCain/Palin has won my vote!
Godd cause you don't...she pro everything this is the problem with people voting they just vote for who ever
she voted against equal pay
her husband works for BP (oil)
oooh she forgot to put that in before the fishing
she pro-everything
and have you forgotten about our troops
ooh i guess you dont have friiends and family members serving
oooh yeahh you say she a woman...a hole
Posted by: soldier | August 29, 2008 2:50 PM | Report abuse
Sltiowa,
Thousand of people attend military academics each year. Graduation from such academies does not qualify one to be Commander in Chief.
As a member of a military family—including a commissioned officer who served in two wars—I can say with absolute certainty that basic service in the military does not qualify one to be Commander in Chief. A pilot’s work is near the bottom rung on the military ladder. As such, they do not participate in strategic planning, decision making, etc.
Insofar as McCain’s “strong family ties with the military” all I can say is you wouldn’t bring it up if you knew anything about military history. McCain’s grandfather, John S. McCain Sr., assumed command under Adm. Halsey. Together, in 1944, they destroyed the Third Fleet—not in battle, but by steering the fleet into a hurricane: lost 3 destroyers, 140+ aircraft, and killed 800 men. They repeated the same mistake in 1945, in which the recently repaired fleet sustained heavy damages, including lost of 70 aircraft and 6 men. In both disasters, McCain Sr. and Halsey violated fundamental nautical principles regarding sailing in storms.
BTW, McCain Sr. was a graduate of the United States Naval Academy…goes to show you a military education doesn’t qualify anyone to be commander of a fleet, let alone Commander in Chief.
Posted by: Catherine | August 29, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse
One John McCain Once Commented...Obama will do anything to win votes....
Who's doing anything now in a bid to win votes?
According to Obama, it's not that McCain doesn't care...it's just that he doesn't get it!
And I couldn't agree with that statement more.
People hate Barack because of what he's achieved...if he were white...this would be a phenomenon...I really cannot believe people are already talking accolades for Palin...she's just been introduced for F's sake...and people are eating off her plate!
On the other hand, Barack was introduced years ago, and there's still talk he still needs to introduce himself to America!
Yeah, this is the country that Voted in George Bush in office....get this...TWICE!
Barack's promising to UNITE this freaking country of idiots who cannot spell nor tell where in the World Iran or Iraq is!
What more do you want Barack to do? How much further should this guy grovel before some of you numnuts eventually get it that the US...is all hype and marketing...SuperPower my multi racial bottom.
I cry for this country...I really cry for sanity to prevail and that some intelligence, no matter how miniscule, may infect the national psyche!
Posted by: Priceless | August 29, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse
I am flat out stunned by the stupidity of McCain's choice!!! This is who the American people want as the person "a heartbeat away" from the presidency? A person who's been governor of a small, idiosyncratic state (no offense to Alaskans here) for all of 20 months, with previous service as mayor of a tiny city? A person with ZERO knowledge of foreign policy? Or hardly any other areas of policy? Whose only relevant credentials seem to be she likes guns, hates abortions, and doesn't have a penis?
It's been fun watching the Republican strategists dealing with this move today. They are clearly perplexed. It is, however, a perfect demonstration of one of McCain's great flaws that many of his supporters acknowledge: his tendency to reject input and go with his instinct. He's decided he can pick off disgruntled Hilary fans. He might have been able to had he gone with a moderate female Republican. But does he really think a gun-totting, rabidly anti-choice woman they've never heard of who is the darling of the far, far right will do the trick? McCain must be on drugs or slipping into dementia.
Posted by: Bwana | August 29, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse
I am flat out stunned by the stupidity of McCain's choice!!! This is who the American people want as the person "a heartbeat away" from the presidency? A person who's been governor of a small, idiosyncratic state (no offense to Alaskans here) for all of 20 months, with previous service as mayor of a tiny city? A person with ZERO knowledge of foreign policy? Or hardly any other areas of policy? Whose only relevant credentials seem to be she likes guns, hates abortions, and doesn't have a penis?
It's been fun watching the Republican strategists dealing with this move today. They are clearly perplexed. It is, however, a perfect demonstration of one of McCain's great flaws that many of his supporters acknowledge: his tendency to reject input and go with his instinct. He's decided he can pick off disgruntled Hilary fans. He might have been able to had he gone with a moderate female Republican. But does he really think a gun-totting, rabidly anti-choice woman they've never heard of who is the darling of the far, far right will do the trick? McCain must be on drugs or slipping into dementia.
Posted by: Bwana | August 29, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse
"But having no experience as the VP candidate is a disaster."
He's proved over 18 months of campaigning that he's ready to be President. The VP doesn't go through such scrutiny, they just have to have the resume that says they're ready to fill in on day 1 (that is the only qualification for selection). If Palin would have gotten here after campaigning for months and proving her worth, it would be a different story.
But that misses the issue completely. The experience issue isn't an issue for Obama to win, it's an issue for Obama to completely neutralize. McCain did that for him by selecting Palin and proclaiming that her experience makes her more than qualified.
Experience is off the table, now it's about who will really bring about change to America.
Game/Set/Match Obama 08
Posted by: kreuz_missile | August 29, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse
What exactly were Hillary's quals again? Wife of a governor/president and Senator for a few years. She was also a lawyer (not sure if that is good or bad). Palin may be light on experience, but she is 2nd on the ticket, where the lack of experience on the Democrat side is LEADING the ticket. Also, to all the Dems attacking her, look at what Obama has actually DONE, not what he has said. Look at the state of Illinois and the level of corruption, the political machine that gave birth to Obama. Try and ompare "experience" objectively and then come back and honestly try and blast Palin while support Obama.
Posted by: TomB | August 29, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse
kreuz_missle has a point. anyone read the naval exploits of dad and especially grand-dad McCain? Try "Halsey's Typhoon". There was a McCain as Operations officer, grand-dad i recollect. The 3rd Fleet violated a basic mariners principle for storm conditions, lost 3 or 4 ships and sailed away from 700 sailors most of whom drowned. Must have been a question of judgement at or near the top.
Posted by: socalguy | August 29, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse
I wonder how Obama the Changeling is going to try to spin this one!
Posted by: Run Run Run | August 29, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse
"mmarri - Palin's husband is not an Eskimo! he is a native Alaskan - meaning that he was born and raised in the state of Alaska. "
Yeah, "native Alaskan" is something akin to being a sabra. It doesn't mean Eskimo or Aleut or whatever.
Posted by: Mastodon Juan | August 29, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse
The tabloids will eat this woman alive. From her admitted drug use, and I would say she still uses, she lives in Alaska. To every boyfriend she has ever had. This bimbo will get ripped to shreds. The Democrats won't have to do a thing, the tabloids will do it for them. Ask Edwards how good the Enquire is. I bet the Enquire buys the story from her drug suppler before the Monday.
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Let me get this straight Libs:
Having no experience as the Presidential candidate is not a problem
But having no experience as the VP candidate is a disaster.
I hope you nutjobs keep talking about experience right up until you lose in a landslide.
Posted by: kingofzouk | August 29, 2008 2:36 PM
Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse
kreuz_missle has a point. anyone read the naval exploits of dad and especially grand-dad McCain? Try "Halsey's Typhoon". There was a McCain as Operations officer, grand-dad i recollect. The 3rd Fleet violated a basic mariners principle for storm conditions, lost 3 or 4 ships and sailed away from 700 sailors most of whom drowned. Must have been a question of judgement at or near the top.
Posted by: socalguy | August 29, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse
I wonder how Obama the Changeling is going to try to spin this one!
Posted by: Run Run Run | August 29, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse
Anonymous wrote: The tabloids will have a field day with this bimbo. Beauty queen, druggie, all we need now are the nude pictures that some old boyfriend has lawing around.
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What right do you have to call someone a name like that? You don't know her, never met her, never saw her in person (don't even try lying). You are precisely the reason why liberals are becoming more and more on the fringe of civilized society. Just can't keep their nasty mouths shut!!
Posted by: Adrian | August 29, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse
kreuz_missle has a point. anyone read the naval exploits of dad and especially grand-dad McCain? Try "Halsey's Typhoon". There was a McCain as Operations officer, grand-dad i recollect. The 3rd Fleet violated a basic mariners principle for storm conditions, lost 3 or 4 ships and sailed away from 700 sailors most of whom drowned. Must have been a question of judgement at or near the top.
Posted by: socalguy | August 29, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse
Picking Palin is patronizing because no one, no single rational human being would think that McCain surveyed the field of available Republican candidates in America and thought, "Sarah Palin, she's the one! She's the one to be vice president of a nation of 300 million people! There is no one more qualified than her!"
Instead he thought, "...Hillary voters... try to look less old... Romney is awful..." and then I'm not really sure what he thought after that.
Posted by: Anonymous from Munci | August 29, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse
on the plus side sarah only crashed her one fishing boat.
So 'One boat Sarah' can join '5 plane McCain'.
Posted by: Magoo, older than dirt | August 29, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse
McCain's decision is offensive. Women are not going to vote for him just because he would a female who would agree to be on his ticket (judging by her incredibly thin resume, I am giving McCain the benefit of the doubt that he first considered more qualified women and they turned him down). Sarah Palin is no Hillary Clinton.
Second, the experience issue is a non-starter because Palin simply does not have enough time to "fillin the gaps" so to speak or to share with us her ideas and visions the way Obama, Clinton, Biden, etc have done for the last two years. Voters have had a chance to hear what Obama had to say and decide to what degree his experience (or relative lack thereof) weighed in the balance of his potential as president. We will have no such opportunity with Ms. Palin. Her experience will have to stand as it is today - which is only slightly more than the PTA Vice President that she looked like today.
Posted by: Sad day for the GOP | August 29, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse
It's insulting to me, as a Hillary fan, to suggest that just because Palin is female, we could be so easily swayed. Palin's politics are a world away from Hillary's. I hope Hillary's fans deserve more credit than that.
It would be a disaster for all women who hope to see a female president in our life times to make our first serious candidate for the spot an inexperienced person like Palin. Whether you are a Republican or a Democrat, you can't be serious about this candidate! If there's a woman on either ticket, let her be the best "man" for the job, not just a token female.
Posted by: JD | August 29, 2008 2:46 PM | Report abuse
Hey, I am experienced. I was a community organizer and helped to remove asbstos from a building once.
I also got a nuclear proliferation vote through the Senate with no opposition on a voice vote. then there was my empty ethics bill. then there was my veterans motion which never left committee. I voted present a lot in a past job too.
Well that's it. Oh I almost forgot, I wrote a book about myself.
Posted by: snObama | August 29, 2008 2:46 PM | Report abuse
P.S. Does she even HAVE a passport?
Posted by: RealDCC | August 29, 2008 2:46 PM | Report abuse
A very young and inexperienced Governor from Alaska with a "reverse-nepotism" firing scandal hanging over her head? McCain was pretty desperate when he made this choice. It will be interesting to see how it plays out, but she really doesn't seem ready on Day One.
Score: Obama chooses Biden 1, McCain chooses Palin 0.
Posted by: Chuck | August 29, 2008 2:46 PM | Report abuse
It's likely her son has "Downs Syndrome," not "Down Syndrome."
Posted by: Jacksonian | August 29, 2008 2:46 PM | Report abuse
I think it's an interesting choice. What Democrats don't want to admit (and I've voted the Democratic ticket the past 4 elections) is the election isn't determined by die-hard Democrats nor Republicans. The election is determined by Republican voters who swing another way.
Sarah Palin might not sway Democrats to vote the other ticket, but she won't cause Republicans to swing the other way. And that's all McCain needs to win the election, which he will.
Posted by: Independant in DC | August 29, 2008 2:46 PM | Report abuse
With the choice of Palin as VP under his belt, it is a safe bet that President McCain would chose the equally qualified Harriet Meiers as a Supreme Court Justice.
Or has that been tried?
Posted by: AZ | August 29, 2008 2:46 PM | Report abuse
Behold! See the next President of the United $tates: Sarah Palin! McCain will resign after three months in office due to serious health issues.
Posted by: Guy Fox | August 29, 2008 2:46 PM | Report abuse
A weak pick from a weak party. Dems now just need to make sure November votes are counted correctly.
Posted by: Patriot3 | August 29, 2008 2:46 PM | Report abuse
Obama's speech was the same liberal laundry list we've heard for the last 30 years - granted it was a spectacular setting and production, but the words were pretty vapid. However, the Palin pick has completely knocked all coverage of the speech out and McCain is dominating the news cycle. Palin is a great and historic pick. She is an amzing woman.
Posted by: daman1 | August 29, 2008 2:46 PM | Report abuse
I was floored by McCain's choice. I have been following Governor Palin for awhile. Although her values are at odds with mine on some things, overall her strength of character and her grasp of issues superceeds the differences in politics. Obama lost me along time ago, not for his lack of exprience but for his lack of character, substance and his scary ideas about dealing with foreign countries that are anti US. I had decided not to vote this November.
I just changed my mind. For the first time in my life I will vote Republican. I never thought I would see the day - McCain/Palin have my vote.
Posted by: DemInSanDiego | August 29, 2008 2:45 PM | Report abuse
L-E-G-A-C-Y
A broken party, a broken electoral process, a broken military, a broken domestic policy ? a broken foreign policy, a broken war in Afghanistan, an uncertain situation in Iraq, bank crisis...and 2 usurped Presidential elections.
You name it...this is the LEGACY of the in place administration.
And McCain has a 90-95% in compliance voting record with the in place administration.
What the hell more do you want? You want the iceberg to float over to the Titanic? No.
yu go figure out the rest it ain't that difficuolt
Posted by: jatox | August 29, 2008 2:44 PM | Report abuse
i don't think ya can consider the selection of an unexperienced unknowledgeable person brilliant. she'll be crushed in the debates, and for every hillary supporter she gets, and there won't be many--she'll lose another in the persuadable middle, and lose everyone who knows mccain is, well, older and she's really unfit to be president.
Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 2:44 PM | Report abuse
A triumphal entry of the GOP into the 20th Century! Maybe in another 24 years they'll get around to nominating a minority for veep.
Posted by: richard schumacher | August 29, 2008 2:44 PM | Report abuse
"Because it's true! There are at least a dozen better-qualified men who were vetted for the job. Picking a woman of Palin's experience proves that all he (they) wanted was the XX-chromosome. The proof? If you omitted gender-related pronouns and simply repeated Palin's history, that person would not have gotten a second look. It's only when you add the "shes" and the "hers" that she becomes valuable."
There are a dozen better qualified WOMEN in the Republican party than Palin! Christine Todd Whitman, Kay Bailey Hutchison, Condi Rice, Jodi Rell, etc. He wants a hardcore conservative, but he wants a woman solely so he can claim some aspect of "change" - that's the only way you get Palin.
Posted by: kreuz_missile | August 29, 2008 2:44 PM | Report abuse
As noted, Palin is the first woman to serve as the Republican vice presidential pick; Democrats crossed that Rubicon in 1984 when Geraldine Ferraro was Minnesota Sen. Walter Mondale's running mate.
So, this is not new.
2 years in a statewide office, after serving as mayor in a town with fewer people than attended last night's convention?
Experience advantage: Obama/Biden '08
Judgment advantage: Obama/Biden '08
And even after the conservative religious group prayed for bad weather in Denver and instead got a hurricane threatening the Gulf ...
Weather advantage: Obama/Biden '08
Posted by: RealDCC | August 29, 2008 2:43 PM | Report abuse
All I have to say she is easier on the eyes than Dick Cheney or Hillary Clinton!!!I was hoping for Pawlenty but I am pleasantly surprised- it will be interesting to see a debate between Biden and her since they are both nice people.
Posted by: Tim Kelley, St. Paul, MN | August 29, 2008 2:43 PM | Report abuse
This pick was aimed at women voters who were going to go to McCain after Hillary had to concede. But it's not going to make people who were already going to vote Republican vote "even more."
Sorry, this is a back-handed slap at Obama for not picking Hillary, and it won't work.
Slam-dunk Obama campaign.
Posted by: Xlnt | August 29, 2008 2:43 PM | Report abuse
The Nobama slimy campaign is shivering.
The experience argument is a hoax. If Palin is not experienced to be a VP, ditto for Nob(ama). People care whether the President is experienced, not the Veep. And on that test, Nob flunks.
So, if the gutter rats attack Palin, by definition, you gutter rats must think Nob is unqualified for president also.
Nob thought he could diss Clinton; spit in her face, humiliate her, play the sex and race card, and use his empty rhetoric to steal the presidency, as he did the nomination.
He could have been slightly more humble, and at least considered HRC for VP. No, but his Illinois sized ego was too big, and he had to spit in her face, to show who is the boss.
So, now, Obama groupie gutter rats, your empty man's world is crumbling. The women's vote is gone. Vanished. Of course, the Nob never had much support among men.
Most of all, Nob compared Bill C to Nixon. And half of the dems think it is OK?! You never see Repugs insulting their own, least of all, their successful presidents. And for Nob to insult the only 2-term dem president since FDR, was beyond the pale. For this alone, any true Clinton supporter (i.e. half of dem party) could never vote Nob.
Kiss the 18 mil HRC voters, and more broadly a large majority of the democratic party half good bye.
I will have fun seeing how the prostitute media pals of Nob (too many to list; start with Genie RObinson, Dionne, Dowd, Rich, Olberman, Cafferty, Matthews, and so on) will react to this pick, and to the ground shifting and melting under Nob's campaign feet.
Posted by: intcamd1 | August 29, 2008 2:42 PM | Report abuse
Please tell me where can I find Obama's acceptance speech? It is so important that nobody has mentioned it since the 'bimbo' was designated ...
Posted by: Caronte | August 29, 2008 2:42 PM | Report abuse
No kingofzouk, what that means is Senator's McCain's campaign issue regarding Senator Obama's experience was meritless. By God, even he didn't believe it.
Good news, however--there's other reasons for you to select Senator McCain if you like. You'll just have to wait for them to explain it to you so that you can blog it here again.
Posted by: Jackson | August 29, 2008 2:42 PM | Report abuse
This is the Democrats' worst nightmare come true - A smart, accomplished, attractive, Conservative, Republican woman. Bonus: She already has more executive experience than Obama and Biden COMBINED!!! Hah, this is going to be fun.
Posted by: Nobama | August 29, 2008 2:42 PM | Report abuse
Squirt me some tears Dems!
Posted by: Babies | August 29, 2008 2:42 PM | Report abuse
Obama has exactly 1.5 yrs of National level political experience when he decided to run for Prez.
Plus, Obama's inexperience is at the TOP of the ticket. Palin's is at the bottom...so it doesn't matter as much.
This female Democrat is voting GOP this year! WISE CHOICE SEN. MCCAIN.
Posted by: Amber | August 29, 2008 2:42 PM | Report abuse
I am less concerned with what the loony Libs on this page have to say about Palin. the only voice that counts are the voters who have a brain and are still thinking about it. that lets out Obama supporters on both counts.
As far as Obama goes, I am willing to ignore what Republicans have to say about him too. All I need is what his fellow Dems say - not ready to lead, a fairy tale, on the job training etc. Even Dems know the truth and it is on youtube for all to see.
Posted by: kingofzouk | August 29, 2008 2:41 PM | Report abuse
So what is her experience? A town counsel trying to figure out where to put a stop sign?
Let me get this straight Libs:
Having no experience as the Presidential candidate is not a problem
But having no experience as the VP candidate is a disaster.
I hope you nutjobs keep talking about experience right up until you lose in a landslide.
Posted by: kingofzouk | August 29, 2008 2:36 PM
Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 2:41 PM | Report abuse
This is a great pick for McCain for several reasons:
1) She is, compared to other potential candidates young and inexperienced. But she has more executive experience than Obama. This will tempt the Obama campaign to criticize her inexperience, which will force voters to consider his inexperience (which exceed's Palin's).
2) She is a woman, which negates the Obama claim to a "historical election", since McCain's is not "historical".
3) She is a strong conservative, which will encourage conservatives to go out and show support for McCain at the ballot box (which has been shaky).
4) McCain is now the outside-of-Washington candidate. The Obama/Biden ticket is composed to two congressional insiders (when Congress has a record low approval rating), thus undercutting Obama's claim to "change".
Those are just my immediate observations...
Posted by: Winner | August 29, 2008 2:40 PM | Report abuse
We'll have to see but one has to say that this looks very much like the McCain camp without a clue what to do, flapping around for something that is astonishing in order to steal Obama's thunder. Right now it looks like they failed on strengthening McCain and astonishing everybody!
The Obama acceptance may well prove to be the KO punch for McLame and co. That's probably why McCain has been pushing for offshore drilling; he's out of gas and he knows it!
Posted by: General Grant | August 29, 2008 2:40 PM | Report abuse
Joe Biden will eat this woman for breakfast and crap her out before lunch.
Really, this is their big play? This woman spent six years as mayor of a town of 6,700 people, is governor of a state for two years, and she's ready to be one heart beat away from the job of leader of the free world?
This woman isn't even fit to carry Hillary's purse, and they expect that feminists everywhere will suddenly swoon and vote for her?
Absolutely puzzling...seems almost like a Trojan Horse.
Posted by: CatherineinOHIO | August 29, 2008 2:39 PM | Report abuse
Bad move by McCain. It will be a very effective foil for Obama in beating back criticisms that he lacks experience (because he has more than her). If being governor of ALASKA for a couple of years qualifies you to be president (which it has to if she's a VP -- it must be the same standard, or it would leave open teh chance that someone "unfit" would become president), then there is absolutely no doubt that Obama is qualified by McCain's standard.
And HRC's supporters are NOT going to sign on to an ultra-anti-abortion ticket simply because she is a woman (if that is what he was thinking he is nuts).
I really think he had a shot, but he needed to run an uncovential campaign -- not in terms of gender, but in terms of whipping the base in line and moving the R party in another direction.
Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 2:39 PM | Report abuse
Will Palin help deliver Virginia? I don't think so. Ooooh, yeah...uh, I'm going to have to ask you to come in on...Saturday.
Posted by: Lumbergh | August 29, 2008 2:38 PM | Report abuse
EL--Senators don't run states on a day to day basis.
Posted by: Cheryl | August 29, 2008 2:37 PM | Report abuse
Bill Burton, a spokesman for the Obama campaign, said in a statement. “Governor Palin shares John McCain’s commitment to overturning Roe v. Wade, the agenda of Big Oil and continuing George Bush’s failed economic policies — that’s not the change we need, it’s just more of the same.”
Posted by: Magoo equals Bitterness and Hate | August 29, 2008 2:37 PM | Report abuse
Smells like sour-grapes in here!
Posted by: Nelson | August 29, 2008 2:37 PM | Report abuse
Most of us Alaskans like her promise of integrity (though under scrutiny) but deplore her views on wildlife, especially the gunning of wolves from helicopter (over 700 to date). Not everyone here wants to open the Arctic National Refuge to oil exploration either
Posted by: In Alaska | August 29, 2008 2:37 PM | Report abuse
A realist,
I hope you are right this time!
Posted by: Caronte | August 29, 2008 2:37 PM | Report abuse
During the primary, I heard some of Hillary Clinton's supporters argue that the only reason Senator Obama was leading was because he was African-American. Is there anyone out there who believes Sarah Palin would have been Senator McCain's selection for VP if her name was Robert Palin?
I understand that politics makes strange bedfellows and VP selections, but this is pandering not seen since Geraldine Ferraro. Maybe we need to find a few videos of Republicans deriding that selection.
Posted by: Jackson | August 29, 2008 2:36 PM | Report abuse
So, the Republicans think that by putting a woman on the ticket they can win Hillary's supporters? Given McCain is 72, Palin might get the chance to be the first female president of the United States if he wins and cannot finish his term. Do you think Hillary and her supporters like the idea that someone with even less foreign policy experience than Obama might take the title of the first female president of the United States away from her?
Posted by: anthony | August 29, 2008 2:36 PM | Report abuse
Let me get this straight Libs:
Having no experience as the Presidential candidate is not a problem
But having no experience as the VP candidate is a disaster.
I hope you nutjobs keep talking about experience right up until you lose in a landslide.
Posted by: kingofzouk | August 29, 2008 2:36 PM | Report abuse
Can you Obama supporters tell me what state or what business Obama has run in all of his 10 years of political experience?
Posted by: Cheryl | August 29, 2008 2:35 PM | Report abuse
What all you Dems harping on her experience don't understand is that this was a PURE pick based on strength of character....great pick, she is fantastic, and America will love her.
Posted by: daman1 | August 29, 2008 2:35 PM | Report abuse
There go Democrats. A community-organizing man with zero executive experience is good enough to become the President of United States but a Governor who happens to be a woman is too unqualified.
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Palin being a woman has nothing to do with it. Just look at the 18 million people who voted for Clinton.
McCain looked over many people who have much more experience than Palin. Palin was mayor of a city of 8000 and then governor for less than 2 years. Obama was a senator of a large state for 7 years, and then a US senator for a couple years.
Obama during the primary has demonstrated what he can do and who he is.
But who knows. Hopfully Palin will also prove herself "ready on day one". I really hope so because otherwise we might end up with another presidential fiasco.
On the other hand, with Biden I don't think we run that risk.
Posted by: EL | August 29, 2008 2:35 PM | Report abuse
WRONG. You misunderstand...we are voting AGAINST Obama.
You can fool yourself any way you want and tell yourself whatever. If you pull the lever for McCain, you are supporting overturning Roe vs Wade and ignoring everything else Hillary stood for. In your mind being vindictive towards Obama will"punish" the country. Clearly you never truly understood what Hillary fought for and voting for McCain will set back feminism for decades. Tread at your own peril.
A Hillary supporter..
Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 2:35 PM | Report abuse
Awesome pick
Posted by: McCain/Palin | August 29, 2008 2:34 PM | Report abuse
Trust me, people, this is not a wise choice. If McCain were a couple decades younger, maybe, one can seriously wonder if Sarah even has a passport. There is nothing in her resume to indicate she is ready.
I live in the famous town of "Nowhere", home to the bridge that dos not exist. She rightly nixed it, but out my window I see a $40 million road leading to the bridge with no access! She refused to nix that, so now I look across the channel at a road -- new pavement and guard rails, yet more likely to se bears on it than cars. There is always more to the story, but even die-hard Republicans are shaking there heads at this.
Score the judgment round to Obama.
Posted by: Your Man in Ketchikan | August 29, 2008 2:34 PM | Report abuse
McCain could have pick Bin laden as his VP and most whites would still vote for him. Let's be real people no Black man will ever be president of this country. And that's just the way it is.
Posted by: A realist | August 29, 2008 2:34 PM | Report abuse
sitiowa-
I think Catherine's point is obvious. Obama has a mind to consider the big picture, so he can better formulate strategy. McCain is used to taking orders from generals and doesn't have a mind for strategy. Therefore generals, who take orders from the president, would prefer taking orders from someone who can develop a better strategy. This would be Obama. I think generals, many who have been outspoken against GW Bush, would welcome taking orders from somebody with intelligence. Again, this would be Obama.
Also, please refrain from personal attacks: "juvenile argument"
Posted by: msreason | August 29, 2008 2:34 PM | Report abuse
The Palin choice indicates that McCain has made a strategic decision that the election cannot be won with an argument relying mainly on experience. It didn't work for Hillary after all.
He agrees that it is a "change" election. Therefore, he needs to "rebrand" himself, once again, as a "maverick." But he can't afford to alienate the conservatives in his party. Choosing Palin offers a maverick with impeccable conservative credentials and the choice reinforces McCain's own reputation for daring and original decisions.
In addition, she offers the possibility of "peeling off" some women voters as Howard Wolfson said. McCain is targeting blue collar and Catholic women with the Palin choice. Many of these women have much more in common with Palin than with Hillary after all.
Finally, McCain still can cite an experience difference as a minor theme. A relatively inexperienced VP is not the same thing as a relatively inexperienced Presidential candidate after all -- even considering McCain's age.
I imagine that the Republican convention next week will sound the "maverick" theme strongly to begin to lay out this strategy. The Dems crowing about the loss of the experience issue are beind the curve, I suspect.
Posted by: pwood | August 29, 2008 2:33 PM | Report abuse
PALIN VP SHOCKER: Will Scorned "Hillarians" Turn to GOP "Hot Mamma?
Posted by: scrivener | August 29, 2008 2:33 PM | Report abuse
I don't know who Palin is, but I'm sure McCain's base--the MSM--will promote her 24/7 in a very positive way, completely ignoring that she's under criminal investigation.
Overall, she seems to have a great backstory, but she doesn't stand for the same things Hillary stood for. Hillary was pro-choice, as one example. If Hillary's disgruntled supporters are going to vote for Palin, they didn't believe in what Hillary stood for at all.
The good thing for Democrats is that the Republicans can no longer play the lack-of-experience card. Now the real question becomes: do voters want a woman in the White House when McCain drops dead or do they want a black man in the White House?
Posted by: Seneca | August 29, 2008 2:33 PM | Report abuse
"is prepared to take on the job from day 1."
If that's your stance don't vote for Barry the rockstar.
Posted by: 1123 | August 29, 2008 2:32 PM | Report abuse
you can't not balance the Alaska budget. not even a dem could spend all the oil money, even without an income tax. all they do is figure out how much to spend and how much of what's left to give back to the residents.
from the PTA to a heartbeat from the presidency in months? she's right of McCain, not an independent. caved to el Rushbo. and McCain, who thinks so much of women that he told a biker convention a month ago that he should have had Cindy enter the topless beauty contest, picks another beauty queen and thinks women will vote for him because she's a woman even though she is against everything Hillary was for? how dumb does he think women are? seems pretty clear he thinks women are just to look at.
Posted by: JoeT | August 29, 2008 2:32 PM | Report abuse
MOSCOW, Aug. 29 -- Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin said Thursday that he had reason to think U.S. personnel were in the combat zone during the recent war in Georgia, adding that if confirmed, their presence suggested "someone in the United States" provoked the conflict to help one of the candidates in the American presidential race.
In Putin's first extended remarks defending Russia's military intervention in Georgia, which has drawn international condemnation, he blamed the Bush administration for failing to stop Georgian leaders from launching the Aug. 7 attack on the breakaway province of South Ossetia that sparked the war.
Speaking on CNN, Putin argued that the U.S. policy of training and supplying weapons to the Georgian army had emboldened the country to abandon long-standing negotiations over the future of South Ossetia and to try instead to seize the region by force, an assault that resulted in the deaths of Russian soldiers stationed there as peacekeepers.
Putin suggested that U.S. military advisers were working with Georgian forces that clashed with the Russian army, a prospect he described as "very dangerous."
"Even during the Cold War, during the harsh confrontation between the Soviet Union and the United States, we always avoided direct clashes between our civilians, even more so between our military personnel," he said in the interview, portions of which were also broadcast on Russian national television. "Ordinary experts, even if they teach military affairs, should not do so in combat zones, but in training areas and training centers," he added.
Putin said he based his assertions on information provided to him by the Russian military, but he offered no evidence and cautioned that his "suspicions" required further confirmation.
Earlier in the day, a senior Russian military official said at a news briefing that Russian troops had recovered an American passport in the rubble of a village near the South Ossetian capital of Tskhinvali, where a Georgian special forces unit had been based during the war.
"What was the purpose of that gentleman being among the special forces, and what is he doing today, I so far cannot answer," said Col. Gen. Anatoly Nogovitsyn, deputy chief of the general staff, holding up an enlarged color photocopy of the passport. He identified its owner as Michael Lee White, a resident of Houston, born in 1967, state-owned Vesti television reported.
Posted by: angriestdogintheworld | August 29, 2008 2:32 PM | Report abuse
Navy pilot John Sidney D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain III should have never been allowed to graduate from the U.S. Navy flight school. He was a below average student and a lousy pilot. Had his father and grandfather not been famous four star U.S. Navy admirals, D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain III would have never been allowed in the cockpit of a military aircraft.
His father John S. "Junior" McCain was commander of U.S. forces in Europe later becoming commander of American forces in Vietnam while D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain III was being held prisoner of war. D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain III's grandfather John S. McCain, Sr. commanded naval aviation at the Battle of Okinawa in 1945.
During his relative short stunt on flight status, D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain III lost five U.S. Navy aircraft, four in accidents and one in combat.
D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain III lost jet number one in 1958 when he plunged into Corpus Christi Bay while practicing landings. He was knocked unconscious by the impact coming to as the plane settled to the bottom.
D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain's second crash occurred while he was deployed in the Mediterranean. Flying too low over the Iberian Peninsula, he took out some power lines which led to a spate of newspaper stories in which he was predictably identified as the son of an admiral."
D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain's third crash three occurred when he was returning from flying a Navy trainer solo to Philadelphia for an Army-Navy football game.
D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain's fourth aircraft loss occurred July 29, 1967, soon after he was assigned to the USS Forrestal as an A-4 Skyhawk pilot. While seated in the cockpit of his aircraft waiting his turn for takeoff, an accidently fired rocket slammed into D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain's plane. He escaped from the burning aircraft, but the explosions that followed killed 134 sailors, destroyed at least 20 aircraft, and threatened to sink the ship.
D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain's fifth loss happened during his 23rd mission over North Vietnam on Oct. 26, 1967, when D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain's A-4 Skyhawk was shot down by a surface-to-air missile. D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain ejected from the plane breaking both arms and a leg in the process and subsequently parachuted into Truc Bach Lake near Hanoi.
"Demands for military information were accompanied by threats to terminate my medical treatment if I [D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain] did not cooperate. Eventually, I gave them my ship's name and squadron number, and confirmed that my target had been the power plant."
When the communist learned that D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain's father was Admiral John S. McCain, Jr., the soon-to-be commander of all U.S. Forces in the Pacific, he was rushed to Gai Lam military hospital.
The communist Vietnamese figured, because POW D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain's father was of such high military rank, that he was of royalty or the governing circle. Thereafter the communist bragged that they had captured "the crown prince."
For 23 combat missions (an estimated 20 hours over enemy territory), the U.S. Navy awarded D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain a Silver Star, a Legion of Merit for Valor, a Distinguished Flying Cross, three Bronze Stars, two Commendation medals plus two Purple Hearts and a dozen service medals.
D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain had roughly 20 hours in combat. Since D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain got 28 medals, that equals out to a medal-and-a-half for each hour he spent in combat. There were infantry guys -- grunts on the ground -- who had more than 7,000 hours in combat where I'm sure a prison cell would have looked pretty good to them by comparison. The question really is how many guys got that number of medals for not being shot down.
D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain has been an unchecked master at manipulating an overly friendly and biased news media. The former POW turned Congressman, turned U.S. Senator, has managed to gloss over his failures as a pilot and collaborations with the enemy by exaggerating his military service and lying about his feats of heroism.
D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain has sprouted a halo and wings to become America's POW-hero presidential candidate.
Former naval officer and the owner of an OOIIILLLL-trading company that inked defense contracts worth $1 billion is the modern presidential money man. The law forbids high-level supporters from writing huge checks, but with help from friends in the Middle East D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain is receiving large donations.
Posted by: GOP Republican Get Rich Quick By Selling America | August 29, 2008 2:32 PM | Report abuse
The tabloids will have a field day with this bimbo. Beauty queen, druggie, all we need now are the nude pictures that some old boyfriend has lawing around.
Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 2:24 PM
Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 2:32 PM | Report abuse
Since nearly all of Alaska's State money comes from Oil and sin Taxes, any government who didn't balance the budget when the price of oil doubled during her term should be shot, so that isn't much of an accomplishment. Next someone will give her credit for the lack of Hurricanes, fire ants or tornados in her home state.
Posted by: Muddy | August 29, 2008 2:31 PM | Report abuse
"Hey mmark, can you tell us where it is we can find this quote that you allege is attributable to Sen Obama?"
There was that memo from the Obama camp telling the press that Bill Clinton's comments in SC were "Playing the Race Card". Of course CNN and MSNBC hammered away at that one. No it did not come directly from Obama, but from his campaign. That is how he plays it.
Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 2:31 PM | Report abuse
So, does anybody remember the 'memorable and historical event' that occurred yesterday? For the first time in history ... what?
Posted by: Caronte | August 29, 2008 2:31 PM | Report abuse
How come I am not "WOWED" by Obamas "STAR" appeal? Because I've watched my country get embarressead by a dunce for the last 8.THEY DO NOT DESERVE A SECOND CHANCE. I voted for Reagan, Big Bush, and Clinton, and I am a registered Democrat. They lied, and if you want to reward them then go ahead. I hope he (Obama) gets elected out of SPITE!
He ran a better campaign than the Clintons (so get over it), is motivating and mobilizing people to vote for change (so what it's glitzy), and he will surround himself with capable people. Experiance? G Dub had all the experiance people in his cabinet and they all SCREWED UP the mission in IRAQ. They tried to fix it on the fly. No, SPITE..I want to see his chesire cat smug grin on TV every night to remind America of how UNCHRISTIAN, RACIST, STUPID, UNREAD, TV FAT and UNREALITY SHOW(ED)), FOX NEWS BLIND, and did I say HYPICRITICAL we are. Plese God, PLEASE do it...forgive my spite...
Posted by: walterrock | August 29, 2008 2:31 PM | Report abuse
OK. I'm still waiting for someone to tell me exactly HOW it is that Obama disrespected HRC during the primary!
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Yet another example of projection.
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Posted by: PeixeGato | August 29, 2008 2:24 PM
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Yeah, Procter Gamble, calling her a racist was no disrespect at all.
Yet another example of Obama arrogance and obtuseness.
Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 2:31 PM | Report abuse
"Please make a point as to why Obama would be more favorable choice of the generals over McCain."
You seem to be laboring under the false impression that "the generals" are excited about seeing a red-faced maximalist response to every international crisis that presents itself. If you had any experience with "the generals", you'd know almost all of them have a much more nuanced view of f











Sarah Pailin has a lot more experien ce than Obama who has doen NOTHING. he has been in hte US Senate for barely 2 years but has spent most of that campaigning.
he has never held a job.
Never had to make a payroll
never had to makde any decsions of consequence.
never been personally accountable to anyone for anything.
and he has been caught in lie after lie...
does anyone actually pay attentnion ot what is out there besides the bull he loves to throw...
tell me something he has actaully DONE....
that makes him qualified to be the presiident of hte USA