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Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin

As governor of Alaska, Sarah Palin, shown here in a 2006 photo taken in Juneau, is among the most popular governors in the country and is widely viewed as a reformer. (AP Photo/ Brian Wallace/Juneua Empire)

DENVER -- John McCain's selection of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin to be his vice presidential running mate is a stunning surprise almost certain to recalibrate the race heading into the fall election.

The McCain campaign had make little secret of the fact that they wanted to pick a woman as the Arizona senator's running mate, believing that the rift caused by the protracted primary between Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton gave them an opportunity to pick up scads of disgruntled women.

While Palin was among those mentioned -- she cracked The Fix's Veepstakes Line on several occasions -- she was never seen as a serious contender: too young (she is in her early 40s), too inexperienced (she has been governor for less than two years) and from a state, in Alaska, that is not regarded as a battle ground.

When Palin gave birth to her fifth child, a son named Trig Paxson, in April and announced he had Down Syndrome, she was widely ruled out of the veepstakes. But, conversations obviously continued outside public view.

The Palin pick gives McCain a counterweight to the historical nature of the Democratic ticket, which features the first African American nominee of either party. Palin is the first woman to serve as the Republican vice presidential pick; Democrats crossed that Rubicon in 1984 when Geraldine Ferraro was Minnesota Sen. Walter Mondale's running mate in an election where the Democratic ticket was swamped by President Ronald Reagan.

In choosing Palin, McCain also doubles down on the maverick argument; Palin is the face of reform in the Republican party nationally and is clearly not of Washington -- a key element of her biography given how negative voter sentiment toward the nation's capital is currently.

Palin is also strongly pro-life and well liked by conservatives of all stripes, and her selection will be greeted with a huge sign of relief among those within the Republican base who feared that McCain might pick a pro-choice candidate like Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.) or former Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Ridge.

Palin won quick confirmation from the fiscal conservative wing of the party in the form of Club For Growth president Pat Toomey. "At a time when many Republicans are still clinging to pork-barrel politics, Governor Palin has quickly become a leader on this issue," said Toomey. "She is a principled reformer who understands how badly wasteful spending has marred the Republican brand."

Palin's newness on the national scene is both her greatest strength and her biggest weakness.

On the one hand, she will be greeted as a fresh face with a compelling personal story that voters will likely react well to. (Palin also has a son serving with the Army in Iraq, an interesting parallel with Democratic V.P. nominee Joe Biden.)

On the other, picking Palin complicates the argument forwarded by McCain that Obama's short resume makes him ill-equipped to be commander in chief. In picking a candidate who has been a statewide elected official for less than two years, McCain will be hard pressed to argue that experience in public life is a critical component of serving in national office.

Democrats are also likely to hone in on questions of whether Palin exerted her influence over her public safety commissioner to fire a state trooper involved in a contentious divorce from Palin's sister. Palin has denied any wrongdoing. In the immediate aftermath of the Palin news, Democrats were already moving the story around to reporters -- signaling their intent to make it a major issue.

Stay tuned for much more on the Palin pick. . . .

By Chris Cillizza  |  August 29, 2008; 10:50 AM ET
Categories:  Eye on 2008  
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Sarah Pailin has a lot more experien ce than Obama who has doen NOTHING. he has been in hte US Senate for barely 2 years but has spent most of that campaigning.
he has never held a job.
Never had to make a payroll
never had to makde any decsions of consequence.
never been personally accountable to anyone for anything.
and he has been caught in lie after lie...
does anyone actually pay attentnion ot what is out there besides the bull he loves to throw...
tell me something he has actaully DONE....
that makes him qualified to be the presiident of hte USA

Posted by: jerrysimon | September 6, 2008 12:02 PM | Report abuse

I am not sure who I am more distressed with, the CNN/media types that judge a woman based on the most sexist reasons possible or the Limbaugh types that believe McCain's refusal to slash and burn in his acceptance speech was a disservice to the Republican Party. What the heck does a young lady's mistaken pregnancy have to do with the Presidency? Isn't it fairly obvious that one of the reasons the public is sick of politics, politicians and government is that they are so self-serving? What is wrong in saying you represent the people and not necessarily one political party, no matter what it believes? Good for John McCain.

Posted by: Dennis English | September 5, 2008 1:43 PM | Report abuse

For those who have said the Reps are "out of touch" I have to differ. I have never heard a more energizing speech in many years (at least not from a Republican. Palin scored big on her speech last night. She was nothing short of amazing. I didn't care one thing about the election until last night. Go Sarah!

Posted by: Seattleite | September 4, 2008 5:58 PM | Report abuse

what in heavens name is wromg with you peple
it does not matter if the VP choice is a man or woman, black or white
Its is that person an AMERICAN, for the good ogf all opur people, a person who takes there oath on the BIBLE not the Coran, a person wjho respects our Dlag, not turns there back to itI there any Repuclican who you have never attacked or tried to attack with your frivolous nonsense
Wakke up and cxome back to what its all about OUR AMEICA

Posted by: i k k | September 3, 2008 8:19 PM | Report abuse

what in heavens name is wromg with you peple
it does not matter if the VP choice is a man or woman, black or white
Its is that person an AMERICAN, for the good ogf all opur people, a person who takes there oath on the BIBLE not the Coran, a person wjho respects our Dlag, not turns there back to itI there any Repuclican who you have never attacked or tried to attack with your frivolous nonsense
Wakke up and cxome back to what its all about OUR AMEICA

Posted by: i k k | September 3, 2008 7:26 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin attempted to have books she found objectionable banned from the local library when she was mayor. She then tried to fire the librarian who would not allow her to decide what was suitable reading. Seriously. This woman wants to dictate to everyone her morals, which I think are quite warped. God help us if this woman sits as VP. I find her decision to run as McCain's VP quite distressing because she has thrust her child into the spotlight when this should have been a private family matter. I believe Sarah Palin and McCain have used Bristol Palin as a poster child to get evangelical, prolife votes without any consideration for how humiliating or embarrassing this is for a 17 year old. Then she pushes a 17 into marriage...Shameful.

Posted by: cillann | September 2, 2008 6:55 PM | Report abuse

i think this is a very, very calculated pick by the GOP. they are soooo transparently out of touch. "Let's give them a woman!" And let our messaging machine produce knee-jerk talking points about being a "maverick investigating govment" and defending her daughter's personal choice to keep the baby, when GOP seeks to limit other women's personal choices in NOT keeping their babies.
GOP seeks to divide and polarize. Obama seeks a more open discussion to bridge the factions. This is the difference to me.

Posted by: sarah in georgia | September 1, 2008 3:42 PM | Report abuse

HOW MANY OF OBAMA'S CONSTITUENTS ARE SINGLE MOMS?
You know the Obama speeches about how fathers
need to be responsible and not abandon their
children's mothers. What hypocracy for Obama's
attack dogs to now smear Palin's family for their
daughters pregnancy.DAILY KOS ARE SCUM BAGS !!!
All you small minded people who are crucifying Governor Palin over the question of her fifth child, are just fueling a vicious smear campaign. Besides, if you want to exhibit your holier-than-thou attitude ... why don't you get even more angry at Obama, Michelle, and their children, for spending 20 years in an anti-American racist church, as well as associations with Farrakhan, Wright, Ayers, Rezko, etc.. These facts are much more relevant to the next administration, than the possibility of a loving mother taking the heat to protect her child and grandchild.

Posted by: Lee | September 1, 2008 1:56 PM | Report abuse

HOW MANY OF OBAMA'S CONSTITUENTS ARE SINGLE MOMS?
You know the Obama speeches about how fathers
need to be responsible and not abandon their
children's mothers. What hypocracy for Obama's
attack dogs to now smear Palin's family for their
daughters pregnancy.DAILY KOS ARE SCUM BAGS !!!
All you small minded people who are crucifying Governor Palin over the question of her fifth child, are just fueling a vicious smear campaign. Besides, if you want to exhibit your holier-than-thou attitude ... why don't you get even more angry at Obama, Michelle, and their children, for spending 20 years in an anti-American racist church, as well as associations with Farrakhan, Wright, Ayers, Rezko, etc.. These facts are much more relevant to the next administration, than the possibility of a loving mother taking the heat to protect her child and grandchild.

Posted by: Lee | September 1, 2008 1:55 PM | Report abuse

McCain/Palin Reform ticket is a joke. Why is it better to have two Reform Republicans come in an clean up the mess the Republicans have made in Congress? Doesn't it seem more logical to have a Democrat clean it up? The real mess came when the Republicans finally controlled both houses of Congress for some four years. From 2001-2002 , Democrats put some brakes on Bush but couldn't move an agenda forward because of Republicans blocking agendas and then the big trust in Bush after 9/11. Then since 2007, the Republicans have been filibustering in the Senate. The only cleanup needed is to vote the rascally Republicans out.

Palin Executive experience is also preposterous. Mayor of Wasilla AK decides where to locate the ice hockey rink and cuts the ribbon for the new Wal-Mart and it sounds like even that was a stretch for her. Popular governor of a state with oil revenues and few taxes of anyone except corporations. Critics call her the Chavez of the north for her generous $1200 checks to each citizen as well as the regular $1600 from the permanent fund. As a Democrat I applaud sharing the wealth, but this should sound a little like socialism to Republicans.

And as for her anti-stem cell, pro-life approach, even in cases of rape and incest- not appealing to most Americans.

Heck of a Job, John. Canceling the convention, even for a hurricane which reminds people how you voted against Katrina relief, must be the answer to Dobson's prayers. Now you can hug your VP instead of President Bush.

Posted by: murrayewv | September 1, 2008 2:28 AM | Report abuse

Wow. It now appears that McCain's vetting committee of eight didn't even bother to check through the newspapers of the town Palin was mayor of. (When investigative reporters arrived to have a look at them, they were told they were the first to make such a request.)
Not to have sufficiently vetted Gov. Palin raises major questions about McCain's judgment. It's not enough to say, "We're soul mates." Sounds a lot like Bush's "I looked into Putin's eyes."

Posted by: James | August 31, 2008 11:28 PM | Report abuse

Sarah is ready to handle the 3 a.m. phone call. No joke, look how well she handled the 4 a.m. phone call (allegedly) telling her Bristol's water broke.

Posted by: sullgroup | August 31, 2008 6:45 PM | Report abuse

The nicest thing for me about the Palin pick is that I don’t even have to think twice about her to know I oppose her- I simply am done supporting rightwing religious nutjobs...

So for me, at least, I don’t have to even bother with the issues of experience and her complete lack of knowledge regarding foreign affairs and well, hell, the fact she didn’t even know what the VP did a few weeks ago. I don’t have to think about any of that, as her extreme Bush religious views already disqualify her in my eyes. No more nutjob social conservatives. Ever.

Posted by: Robin Keast | August 31, 2008 3:22 PM | Report abuse

I am a pro-choice woman who was getting sick of this election and now all of a sudden, I do believe with the McCain-Palin ticket, something good is going to happen in the United States. I believe these 2 will take America where it needs to go. My husband was planning to vote Democratic and now he's sold on Palin. When you've been in the working world for 20 years, you know that somebody like Palin, who is an a**-kicker and not afraid of the party elite, is good for the country. It doesn't take 30 years of experiece to know how to kick *ss and take names.
I AM THRILLED!!!! FINALLY!!!!

Posted by: Camilla Outlaw | August 31, 2008 3:12 PM | Report abuse

More proof that white women have been and will always be the greatest beneficiaries of AFFIRMATIVE ACTION!

Quotas, anyone?

Posted by: anon | August 31, 2008 2:17 PM | Report abuse

ANyone else see the lecherous pic of McCain staring at Palin's chest while playing with his wedding ring??

Posted by: Grossed Out | August 31, 2008 1:42 PM | Report abuse

Democrats "bashing" Palin's family? I haven't seen that. I've seen a lot of people trying to get the truth, which, if McCain was running a smart campaign, he would have done before.

Oh and haven't the republicans been oh so nice to the democrats in this campaign cycle? Have you seen how Michelle Obama has been treated? I hope you were as upset with Rush Limbaugh saying she ought to be lynched as you are with democrats trying to find out if Palin is involved in a cover-up.

Posted by: HelenWheels | August 31, 2008 1:38 PM | Report abuse

Three unintended consequences from the Palin pick: (1) Tim Pawlenty can regrow his mullet. (2) Charlie Crist can back out of his sham marriage. (3) We won't have to see the pained expression Mitt Romney gets when he pretends to like John McCain.

Posted by: Eric | August 31, 2008 10:45 AM | Report abuse

The left is embarrassing themselves responding as they are to Palin....and I am a Democrat.

Palin won't lose because of experience, she'll win if the Democrats keep bashing her and her family.

Posted by: Maggie05 | August 31, 2008 9:43 AM | Report abuse

Criminally ridiculous!
At least Obama has been in the spotlight for 2 years and hasn't cracked.
Palin could begin to crack the moment she gets to Washington.
Then what?
Pray McCain stays healthy?
Ridiculous!

Posted by: marko65 | August 31, 2008 4:29 AM | Report abuse

What a wonderful choice in Gov. Sarah Palin for VP! Gov Palin balances the ticket beautifully and is the best person to aid John McCain as Vice President in his administration to run our country well. She brings in a distinguished record of executive experience - running a successful and popular government in Alaska. She has a record of clean government, reduction in spending and bipartisan dealings. An ideal ticket has 1 person who brings in Washington experience - experience with foreign policy, national security etc. while the other brings in executive experience - that of running a government. All major tickets, especially winning tickets in the last 4 decades or so have had such a combination. The Democratic ticket has no experience in running a government smoothly whatsoever.

As for the argument of experience - it is by no means of the table! It says a lot when the nominee for President is comparing his resume with the opposite parties nominee for VP! The VP position does lend itself to on the job training, but the office of President most certainly does not, like Joe Biden himself said. And anyway there is a world of difference between running for President and running for VP. The question of her becoming President and being capable/incapable of doing that arises only if something unfortunate were to happen to President McCain in the next 4 years. Obama could be President in under 4 months! Anyone who believes that Gov Palin is too inexperienced to be VP cannot even dream of Obama as Potus. I'm guessing we wont hear much from the Obama campaign this fall about the (in)experience of Sarah Palin - they would just be shooting themselves in the foot.

I however believe Gov. Palin is definitely ready to be VP, and even the President should such an unfortunate event arise. She has an amazing track record of running a Government and would certainly be able to do the job well atleast to serve out President McCain's term. Anycase by all indications Sen. McCain's health will be fine for atleast 4 years.

Also she has been the Governor of a state (a small state perhaps but a state none the less) and the Commander-in-Chief of a State National Guard (again, a small force perhaps but a force none the less). This alone put her as having more experience than the Democratic Ticket combined as neither of the 2 people on that ticket have any experience running a government or any experience of commanding an army (the person on the top of the ticket has no experience of being in an army, let alone commanding it!). Who would you rather have as CIC? For me its a clear choice - Palin. People ask whether you want to have Palin as CIC if anything happens to McCain - I ask whether you want to have Obama as CIC if anything happens to Biden (him not being there to mentor him and hold his hands every step of the way) or want Biden as CIC if anything happens to Obama. All this talk about heartbeat away really gets me - I would rather have Palin a heartbeat away from the Presidency than Obama at the Presidency! Also Nancy Pelosi is 2 heartbeats away from being CIC - now thats scary!!

I do not agree with people saying that the selection of Gov. Palin is a blatant attempt to get the women voters to vote republican this year. Anyone saying that is really insulting the intelligence of both the McCain campaign and more importantly the women of the country. I would ask all of you, especially women, to vote for the ticket not because of the gender of the VP candidate, but because this is the best ticket for a successful America for the next 4 years. Vote for Gov. Palin not because she is a women but because she is more than capable for the job of VP. None of us knew much about Gov. Palin till yesterday and I must admit that I was at first skeptical when I heard Sen. McCain's pick. I did some research on her and liked what I saw. I hope all voters would do the same so that they would realize Gov. Palin is not on the ticket just because she is a woman, she is on the ticket since she would be an excellent VP with the executive experience she brings in. I am sure that as this campaign progresses and people get to hear more about her and her achievements, the initial backlash from some quarters ('an insult to women thinking they will vote republican simply there is a woman on the ticket', or 'a pretty face totally incapable of taking tough decisions') will evaporate and people will vote for Gov. Palin and Sen McCain on the basis of their combined experience and achievements.

Posted by: James Downing | August 31, 2008 1:22 AM | Report abuse

The right wing media and McCain called Obama inexperienced. What experience does Palin have to be VP? McCain is flip flopping. It appears that McCain is looking out for himself and not country first. America has serious domestic and international problems and this Repub ticket is not one to address any of the issues.

Posted by: Really5 | August 31, 2008 12:29 AM | Report abuse

My mom just said she thinks John McCain realized after Obama's speech (that was watched by 38,000,000 people; more then watched the final day of American Idol) that he was going to lose, was tired and decided in haste to pick her. She would allow him to lose and save face at the same time. It would all be blamed on her and he could go back to the senate.

Funnily, my mom says that she insisted on meeting with my babysitters 2 or 3 times before she allowed them to babysit me. And John meets with Palin twice and thinks she is ready to be president if he dies in office? I guess that makes my old babysitters more vetted then this Miss Alaska runner-up. And think how many times you'd want to meet with someone before you decided they would take your kids and raise them, if you died! Go Mom.

I think that is so funny that John's first and second wives were beauty queens and now his VP pick is one, two. Oh My!

So, mom's still telling me what to write because she caught me blogging her thoughts. But, I think I agree with my Mom, John just wants his old job back. He's tired. But, I will say that he has been practicing on the prompters and his freaky smile. He isn't so hard to look at, anymore. My mom thinks he had botox done, recently. Oh, and that the RNC put him on Prozac.

Mom said it is really sad that the republican christians were praying for rain on Obama's speech because they probably tempted God and that is why their was flooding in the bible belt and why the hurricane is coming to LA again to remind the USA that Bush screwed up Katrina and that Bush is a republican and didn't put country first. She doesn't think anyone will get hurt in the USA this time because she thinks Bush is trying to get this one right so they can win the election and pretend nothing happened. Like the police man in SouthPark saying, "Move along. Nothing to see here."

I think those 38 million televisions had millions of democratic christians around them praying that Obama would be the next president.

I'm sorry, this lady just doesn't look presidential like Biden does.

Posted by: Olivia | August 31, 2008 12:28 AM | Report abuse

Was she for originally invading a country & why?
What about the economy-views please?
Healthcare...if all these babies are going to be born, maybe ill, or abused-left for adoption or an orphanage-who pays for all that?
there is an awful lot going on in the world-very sensitive issues, that cant always be solved with a Clint Eastwood showdown.
I feel Mr. McCain is insulting women, insulting Sen. Clinton, the position of V.P. & of president---not to mention Sen. Obama. I worry that he is not of sound judgement to be president of the US...wake up

Posted by: sue | August 30, 2008 11:31 PM | Report abuse

It's clear McCain would NEVER have picked this woman if Hillary had been chosen as VP. No way!

So much for putting "Country First."

If the Republicans plan to:

Put 1 voting machine in Dem areas and 10 in Rep areas, (again)
Put the usual anti-gay/abortion props on the ballet, (again)
Throw money at Nader, (again)
Use terrorism to scare the crap out of people, (again)
Start raising the Terror Alert Bar just before Nov 4, (again)
Pay to Flip electronic voting machines, (again)
Clean the voting rosters of minorities in swing states, (again)
Robo-Call minorities and tell them Dems vote on Nov 5, (again)
Or that they need a special "Packet" to register to vote, (again)
Call in favors from the MSM and Faux News, (again)
Peddle another tape of Bin Ladin a day before Nov 4, (again)

Or if they use the Supreme Court to appoint the president, just in case the above didn't steal the election (again),

Then we'll REALLY need to HOPE that John McCain doesn't die in office. Because Sarah Palin is no Hillary Clinton! She will not be ready on Day 1.

Or we can say, "Not this time!" and volunteer for the Obama/Biden ticket.

Here's a little history from 10/28/04

w w w . altweeklies.com/gyrobase/AltWeeklies/Story?oid=oid%3A140526

Posted by: Lexi | August 30, 2008 11:31 PM | Report abuse


Great choice. We all know that Obama used racism and sexism to beat Hillary. I don't think he'll get by with it with Palin. Hillary didn't want to disrupt the Democrat party or rend it asunder, but that is not a problem for Sarah Palin.

Posted by: Katherine | August 30, 2008 11:04 PM | Report abuse


Great choice. We all know that Obama used racism and sexism to beat Hillary. I don't think he'll get by with it with Palin. Hillary didn't want to disrupt the Democrat party, but that is not a problem for Sarah Palin.

Posted by: Katherine | August 30, 2008 11:03 PM | Report abuse

McLame's dumbfounded selection for VP now has the GOP know as the Goofy Old Party.

Posted by: Really5 | August 30, 2008 10:54 PM | Report abuse

Just like with his decision to vote "YES" to pre-emptively invade Iraq, McCain has failed again with his VP pick.


The Anchorage Daily News samples some state politician reaction:

"She's (Palin) not prepared to be governor. How can she be prepared to be vice president or president? said [State Senate President Lyda Green, a Republican from Palin's hometown of Wasilla]. "Look at what she's done to this state. What would she do to the nation?"

Full story here:
http://www.adn.com/politics/story/510249.html
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Posted by: LeeAnn Waters | August 30, 2008 10:48 PM | Report abuse

Ho! Hum! Yawn! So,oh okay all you irate vile vicious tempered crazy kool aid drinker paid Obamafools and Obamabots,your
Smears and Anger and Insane Jealousy of
Gov Sarah Palin has been duly noted here.

And so now can we all please get back to
our debating the real issues instead of your insane endless smears and personal attacks please you Obama Losers?

My Vote Goes To McCain and Palin in 2008!
Independent Voter Against Obama and Biden!

Posted by: Sandy5274 | August 30, 2008 9:23 PM | Report abuse

Her water broke in Texas, she then continued to give her speech, and then she got on a flight (10+) hours back to Alaska?

This story smells, very bad. There is obviously something else going on here.

Airlines don't let you on a plan when you're in your last trimester, isn't that so?

There appears to be a hidden story here. Do we need to leave it to the National Enquirer to vet the candidate?

Posted by: Quin Dwyer | August 30, 2008 9:06 PM | Report abuse

I'm puzzled by American conservatives who think that "conservative beliefs" trump every other professional qualification to run for President or Vice President (Messrs Agnew and Quayle).

Do they TRULY expect Ms Palin's conservatism to morph into Presidential wisdom in her role as our Chief Executive, Commander in Chief, State Head of Foreign Policy? (Actuarily, McCain is a long shot to make it through his full term, faculties intact.)

American Conservatives' tolerance of incompetent leadership is leading the USA into Reagan's "trash heap of history".

In the Republican Party dogma trumps competence every time.

(Thank you for 8 years of George Bush!)

While you eschew a woman's right to take the "morning after" pill, you have no problem throwing the baby known as the "American Experiment" out with the bathwater....stupid is as stupid does.

Forest Gump and Chance the Gardener could have been Republican Presidential candidates!

Posted by: Curiouslydark | August 30, 2008 8:39 PM | Report abuse

Palin is also a wolf killer...

she voted for the wolf aerial hunting program which has slaughtered in cold - blood thousands of wolves....and plans to exterminate entire wolf packs..
for no good reason....

Twice the residents of Alaska under then Governor Murkowski and now Pailin voted in favor of stopping the aerial gunning of wolves but this fell on deaf ears and the governors decided to continue the program against the wishes of the majority of the people.

She is also in favor of opening up Anwr to oil rigs.

We need alternative fuel now not dirty oil to keep our addiction alive and keep us chained to the oil executives.

Vote Obama-Biden 2008

lets stop this madness of

McSame-Failin 08.

Posted by: Jeff Dearman | August 30, 2008 6:56 PM | Report abuse

Has anyone heard her speak. Where did she learn English? Spare us all over again!!

Posted by: nclwtk | August 30, 2008 6:34 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin was not picked by John McCain. She was picked by Big Oil who put her in office in Alaska. The state gets 85% of its income from oil and they have run its politics for many years. She has done nothing but advocate for them since gaining office. Drill in the Artic National Wildlife Refuge? No problem. Shoot wolves and bears from airplanes and helicopters- No problem. She is a paid shill for Exxon and BP, where her husband has worked for 20 years.

Posted by: Lucas Phillips | August 30, 2008 6:24 PM | Report abuse

This woman is just a heartbeat away from the Presidency? Save us please......

Posted by: nclwtk | August 30, 2008 6:23 PM | Report abuse

Palin is no Hillary, but Hillary is no Palin either. It's not as though there is one model woman to which all women should aspire, and any lady who believes that a woman must be just like Hillary to appeal to women is more of a misogynist than most men out there. Palin's viewpoints do resonate with quite a few women out there - not necessarily the "Hillary" feminist crowd exactly, but there are plenty of women for whom Hillary didn't do it and Palin would.
Palin has little experience it is true, but I expect that she is going to be studying up on it in the months (maybe years) to come. In both cases the candidates are picking up VP's who shore up their weaknesses; Obama is inexperienced, so he found a running mate with a track record to help mentor him; McCain has experience, but needed a maverick, a new face, and a bit of a shocker to halp connect with those who want to see new blood - he got Palin, and will be mentoring her.
A very bold move on McCain's part - a large potential gain or a large potential liability, who knows. It's too soon to call.

Posted by: JZ | August 30, 2008 6:08 PM | Report abuse

Just read all the sexist comments posted here and know that the progress made in racism (with civil rights) has not been made with sexism (with equal rights).

I worked full time and breastfed and raised children and completed graduate school. My biggest obstacle was the ridiculously predjudiced idea that motherhood disqualified a woman from being a functional employee and working disqualified a woman from being a functional mother.

I am so excited about all the barriers that Sarah Palin is breaking here for working mothers as well as for all American women.

Hopefully this time the media will examine their own sexist views and repoorting - as well as the horrifically prejudiced attitudes toward women in America.

Posted by: McCain Hillary Supporter | August 30, 2008 6:00 PM | Report abuse

Palin is nothing more than an inexperienced creationist cheerleader.


"Dermot Cole, a longtime columnist for Alaska's second largest newspaper, the Fairbanks Daily News-Miner, called McCain's choice of Palin "reckless" and questioned her credentials. "Sarah Palin's chief qualification for being elected governor was that she was not Frank Murkowski," Cole said of her enormously unpopular predecessor, who lost favor with Alaskans in part because of unpopular budget cuts. "She was not elected because she was a conservative. She was not elected because of her grasp of issues or because of her track record as the mayor of Wasilla."

Full story here:
http://www.newsminer.com/news/2008/aug/29/palin-vice-presidential-candidacy-raises-eyebrows-/
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Posted by: Bush + Cheney = McCain | August 30, 2008 5:58 PM | Report abuse

The people who are condeming Gov. Palin for having 5 children must be the same ones that angrily state Hillary should have left Bill. Do you have lives? Have you ever been loved? How do you have the wisdom and righteousness and nerve to pass moral judgement on others? All the sad and lonely people (and angry, fearful, resentful....)

Posted by: Lizfi | August 30, 2008 5:18 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin is a strong advocate for shooting, maiming, and killing wildlife from airplanes and helicopters.

Alaska is truly our nation's last frontier. It is also the last place in the U.S. where a few hunters still use aircraft to chase and kill wolves. They shoot these animals from the air or chase them to exhaustion before landing and shooting them point blank.

As recently as July, state wildlife agency personnel in Alaska staked out a known wolf denning site -- a practice that is illegal under Alaska law -- and, using helicopters, gunned down 14 adult wolves from the air. When they landed, they found the 14 helpless pups in the nearby dens -- just weeks old -- and methodically shot each one in the head. 28 wolves gunned down in all.

Congress passed a law thirty five years ago to put an end to aerial hunting. But Alaska is exploiting a loophole in federal law to resume the practice, not only for wolves, but bears as well. Hundreds of scientists have condemned what Alaska is doing, even as other states threaten to follow Alaska's lead. It's time to stop aerial hunting once and for all.

Rep. George Miller (CA) has introduced the Protect America's Wildlife (PAW) Act, legislation to close a federal loophole and curb Alaska's brutal aerial hunting program -- and prevent programs like it from spreading to places like the Greater Yellowstone region.

Please urge your Representative to sign on as a cosponsor to Rep. George Miller's PAW Act.

John Mccain's hero Teddy Roosevelt would be appalled at Palin.

Not this time.


Posted by: Elizabeth Gilmore | August 30, 2008 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Well, Palin approval 86%
Congress 11% , any questions?

Posted by: Mark in Spokane | August 30, 2008 4:36 PM | Report abuse

I'd be interested in hearing from an obstetrician. Palin is 7 months pregnant, flies to Texas to make a spech. Before the speech, her water breaks and she goes into labor. She goes ahead with the speech. So far, so good. It will be a premature birth but with modern medicine it isn't a problem. Then, she gets on a plane to Alaska!!! That is a long flight. What about the baby? What if there are complications? Surely complications can happen with a premature birth from a 44 year old. How freaking thoughtless can she be? So, in Palin's world, her convenience is more important than insuring a healthy birth?

Posted by: renu1 | August 30, 2008 4:10 PM | Report abuse

bsimon, "cleaning up" AK? ARe you kidding me? She's pals with Ted Stevens of Internets Tubes fame! He's one corrupt dude.

Posted by: HelenWheels | August 30, 2008 3:56 PM | Report abuse

I guess this is the new GOP talking point that rightwingers have been assigned to disseminate:

"As far as experience, Palin has more executive experience than Obama, Biden or McCain."

I would like a full example with pertinent details for this statement, please. I've been hearing it verbatim all over the place but without one shred of evidence to back it up. Thank you in advance.

Posted by: HelenWheels | August 30, 2008 3:55 PM | Report abuse

In one fell swoop, you folks have not only besmirched the name not only of a 16 year-old child, but a baby with Down Syndrome, saying it should have been aborted. Heil Hitler!

What is wrong with people? Can't you stick to the issues? Why do you always have to sling mud?

These two children of Sarah Palin's are CHILDREN...!

Posted by: Jo | August 30, 2008 3:49 PM | Report abuse

Wow, there are some really disgusting people on the left.

Posted by: goaway | August 30, 2008 3:48 PM | Report abuse

SARAH PALIN - IS DAN QUAYLE IN A PONYTAIL!!

You just cant make this stuff up!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUMWJoLR1sM

Posted by: McSENILE!!!! | August 30, 2008 3:37 PM | Report abuse

With all due respect to Gov. Palin, her phenomenal rise in government is mostly due to having been uncommonly fortunate in running against simply horrendous opponents every step of the way.

There is no need to question her character. I know she is the real thing in that regard. My problem with her is that McCain has put her one senior moment away from a job for which she simply isn't ready to even intern for.

And it's just another demonstration of why John McCain's tendency to roll the dice in extraordinarily high stakes personal games of chance shows this VERY scary mentality is showing up in him as a presidential candidate.

With all due regard for Gov. Palin, her very selection should make every thinking voter pause!

Posted by: Carmen Cameron | August 30, 2008 3:31 PM | Report abuse

That story about Palin's baby being her daughter's is not at all crazy.

As a matter of fact that will be the big story in the next few days.

I am from Alaska.

And by the way the rumor that her daughter had a bun in the oven started BEFORE Sarah announced she was even pregnant! It was started, apparently, by her daughters high school classmates. Who noticed that Bristol Palin was out of school for months with a bad case of Mono.

It was only in early March that Sarah said she was pregnant and then delivered on April 18th, right after flying in from Texas on a 12 hour flight AFTER her water supposedly broke.

Still think it is crazy?

Posted by: Gryphen | August 30, 2008 3:22 PM | Report abuse

Who does that Gov. Palin think she is, some empty headed beauty queen, baby-making factory and thinking she is the 2nd coming of Joan of Arc? How dare she have 5 children with the last one that should have been aborted. How can she ever handle the job and take care of those children? Who gets as far as she has (44) without marrying some kind of politician or president?

We dems will cut her to shreds won't we?

Posted by: Pat W. | August 30, 2008 1:51 PM | Report abuse

Palin has a 5 month old. Does anyone know if she is breast-feeding? What does she think of breast-feeding? Will she be taking the infant with her as travels around the country?

Posted by: renu1 | August 30, 2008 1:42 PM | Report abuse

As a woman I find this insulting to my intelligence, she maybe a woman but she sure in the hell doesn't speak for me!
And for her to invoke Hillary's name when she called her a whiner, Hillary stands more for woman in this country than his little girl, so to all you who thinks she has a woman's best interest at heart you better do some reading, she is against a woman's right to chose,she is under investigation in Alaska for the firing of a civil servant,she was for the bridge to nowhere before she was against it, as for McSame he has voted against woman's issues such as fair pay,health care for children,the list goes on.
So you may have won the day on the media but we have had ENOUGH!!!!!!!!!!!! of conservative rule in this country and it is time for us to take it back.
And one last thought if you are better off now than you were 8yrs ago than Mcsame is for you,if you like the idea of another oil person in the white house than McSame is for you, his running mates husband owns a big oil business.
So think before you leap!

Posted by: sandy | August 30, 2008 12:28 PM | Report abuse

Mccains website has completely changed it's theme. No more country first but Mccain is for women. He is going to change his entire message at this point? What a pandering phony SOB. This from a guy who thinks women are "CU*TS'

Posted by: Anonymous | August 30, 2008 11:37 AM | Report abuse

There is actually evidence to support this. It is not as crazy as it sounds. It is also not at all hard to fake something like this especially in a place like Alaska.
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Some moron wrote:

"That baby with Downs syndrome is not Sarah Palin's baby at all , but the baby of her eldest daughter and Sarah Palin faked the birth to cover up her daughter's unwanted pregnancy."

Yeah, and she woke up every morning a put a big pillow under her blouse in an effort to fool everyone!!
Posted by: Tom | August 30, 2008 10:22 AM

Posted by: truth | August 30, 2008 11:22 AM | Report abuse

Another bad day for the Baracky Hussein Obama campaign.

Every single day, he sounds more and more like a Republican. Saying anything that he thinks will gain him votes – he is a poll watcher with no convictions.

Baracky Hussein Obama has an extremely liberal voting record – he cannot run and hide from that fact.

Even his running mate and Hillary Clinton have stated, that he is not qualified to be President.

I hope that all Hispanic voters realize, that they will be at the bottom of the barrel if Baracky Hussein Obama is elected.

Baracky Hussein Obama will have to pacify the Black voters, after receiving 99 % of their vote in November.

Democrats for John McCain in 2008 – The Maverick is back.

Posted by: gary | August 30, 2008 11:17 AM | Report abuse

McCain the shameless mudslinger maverick, now turned into a scavenger who wants to feed on of Clinton’s 18 million supporters to help him get propelled into the White House.

Posted by: andre | August 30, 2008 11:15 AM | Report abuse

At first I thought that McCain had finally lost all his marbles,in picking a rank amateur with no national experience. After doing a little research, however, and after watching Maria Bartiromo's interview with the new Governor of Alaska, it is apparent to me that the old man did not make this choice after all.

The choice was made for him by the same people that brought us George Bush and Dick Cheney- None other than the people who brought us the war in Iraq. Big oil.

The whole Bartiromo/Palin interview is propaganda for big oil. and drilling in the Anwr. She is simply a shill for the big oil companies posing as a hockey mom. Her husband has worked for British Petroleum for over 20 years, and she was put into office to carry out their policies.

Drilling in the Artic National Wildlife Refuge is environmenatally courting disaster, and it simply won't lower the price of oil.

It is extremely costly to drill this way, and to have the oil travel thousands of miles through a pipeline that must be heated and constantly monitored is expensive and dangerous. It can never be cost competitive over sources in the middle east which can pump their oil at a fraction of the cost of either Anwr or offshore. The price of oil indeed is not determined by short term supply and demand as Sarah says, but by the hedge fund speculators and the obscene profits that the majors have decided that they can get away with in Bush's last days in office.

When Bush started the war in Iraq the price was $1.75 per gallon. Iraq was pumping over 3,000,000 gallons a day and selling it outside the OPEC cartel. When we invaded, it took the cheap oil off the market allowing OPEC to raise the price. It was indeed a war about the control of oil- not about WMD's, freedom, or the security of America.

Palin uses all the oil trade slang like "oil hungry," to make the case for her persistent call for expanded drilling. Has she forgotten what the Exxon Valdez did to the Native American fishermen? It will happen again.

Big oil made Bush governor of Texas, then President of the United States. Now it is trying to put McSame and Palin in office to carry out their business for them.

It is not about electing a woman, it is simply about electing people friendly to the oil cartels.


Not this time.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 30, 2008 10:43 AM | Report abuse

sara palin has only been on the scene for a day and already your tearing her apart. she has more to offer than all the has been and the so called old timers have to give. the country wants change, I think she is one to bring it about. some of those people in congress have been there most of there lives and what are they doing, why haven't they turned the country around. do you think the democrats higher taxes is going to do the job, I don't think so it hasn't in the past, why would it now? she may not be a hillary, but she has a lot less baggage to bring to the white house, so I think she should be at least given a chance. who knows maybe she will be that fresh breath of air we have all been waiting for.

Posted by: erbear | August 30, 2008 10:40 AM | Report abuse

Who is going to raise her baby while she's off campaigning and playing VP? We all know that running for office requires some very long days.

Not a Hillary supporter, but Palin is pathetic next to Hillbilly.

Posted by: Hoosier | August 30, 2008 10:32 AM | Report abuse

Some moron wrote:

"That baby with Downs syndrome is not Sarah Palin's baby at all , but the baby of her eldest daughter and Sarah Palin faked the birth to cover up her daughter's unwanted pregnancy."

Yeah, and she woke up every morning a put a big pillow under her blouse in an effort to fool everyone!!

Posted by: Tom | August 30, 2008 10:22 AM | Report abuse

Can you post why you think that? I have a very strong reason to believe that also.

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That baby with Downs syndrome is not Sarah Palin's baby at all , but the baby of her eldest daughter and Sarah Palin faked the birth to cover up her daughter's unwanted pregnancy.

Posted by: This just in | August 30, 2008 12:38 AM

Posted by: Anonymous | August 30, 2008 9:35 AM | Report abuse

The VP pick is under investigation for abuse of power! Wow! She is following in the foosteps of our current president - who knows all about abuse of power!
Another respondent was glad to hear that McCain had selected a "born-again" Christian as his running mate. What is it that makes the religious right think that a "born-again" Christian will make the best president? After all, our current president claims to be one. What an example that is. And why do Republican candidates think that the religious right are the only Christians??????

Posted by: Ed | August 30, 2008 9:34 AM | Report abuse

Obamas campaign of deception is falling apart.He deserves this.He should have begged HIllary to be on the ticket even especially since DNC stole the nomination from her.After all she won the popular vote.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 30, 2008 9:04 AM | Report abuse

Obama's lack of backbone and in succumbing to his own insecurities, failed to pick as his running mate Hillary Clinton and her l8 million voters.

His decision only illustrated a decision made from weakness not one of strength.

I think it will be Obama's downfall on November 4th.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 30, 2008 8:41 AM | Report abuse

To HarrisburgPA:

Hillary supporters, from what I gather, are going to vote for McCain/Palin. I've been on several Clinton supporters' websites and they're going to vote Republican for President and vote Democratic for the Senate and Congress.

This way Obama can't become POTUS but the Democrats in Congress will have enough votes for veto override power, for bills they want passed.

The protest vote will be against Obama and the DNC (Pelosi, Reid, Dean and Brazile, etc).

So those who think women are going to vote for a pro-choice candidate are going to be proven wrong.

As far as experience, Palin has more executive experience than Obama, Biden or McCain. As for foreign affairs experience, Obama picked Biden to shore up his lack of experience in that area. Besides, Obama is running for President and is seriously lacking in many areas.

In fact, it appears that in the short time she has been Governor, she has many accomplishments and hit the ground running when inaugurated.

Obama will rue the day he ever passed over Clinton.

Posted by: D | August 30, 2008 8:17 AM | Report abuse

>>Look, this country needs to get back on a christian track, and this is the way to do it - not get some heathen faux-muslim with a name like the former dictator of a country that we are at war at. She is a conservative christian, and she will appoint more christians who will help us to overturn roe vs wade and much of the other liberalism from the radical 70's movement. <<

So, it's supposed to be a point in Gov. Palin's favor, that, if elected, she will violate the U.S. Constitution? The Framers, who lived in and tried to form a country that could contintue to live, in dangerous times, included, in Article VI of the Constitution, "The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States."

I am a woman who supported and voted for Hillary Clinton, in Pennsylvania, whose primary she won. All I can say is that anyone who says that they supported Clinton but will vote for McCain because he chose someone whose only commonality with HRC is that they both have two X chromosomes and whose positions directly contradict everything for which Clinton stands did not truly support Clinton.

I respect Palin's choice about her youngest child, but, then, that IS what pro-Choice is all about: supporting a woman's right to make choices about her body and her reproductive decisions. Pro-choice doesn't want government to make that decision for her, whether to have an abortion or continue the pregnancy and, after birth, to keep the baby or put the baby up for adoption. On the other hand, in Palin's case, she wasn't free from coercion. For a conservative Republican female politician, having an abortion would be political suicide.

Posted by: HarrisburgPA | August 30, 2008 7:56 AM | Report abuse

MikeN she has more than Barak Obama, and your only saying that because she is a woman.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 30, 2008 5:52 AM | Report abuse

Gee, Senator McCain says there are two duties of the Vice President. One is to break a tie in the Senate (which after this election year, won't be needed) and two, this is the best one of all, is as he says. "The other duty of the vice president of the United States is to inquire daily as to the health of the president. So that will obviously make my pick very important."

Obviously, she can handle the first one but will not have that opportunity and as for the second one, ah, if Senator McCain was serious, I am not sure I would have selected someone with such little experience as being the person that is ONE heartbeat away from the presidency.

Nice Judgment, John!

Posted by: MikeN | August 30, 2008 4:57 AM | Report abuse

I think you will find when you strip off the veneer you will find another big government republican just like McCain. So if you want more illegal wars, domestic spying and the loss of our civil rights then vote for McCain or Obama. If you want to make your voice heard and reject the aforementioned then make Ron Paul your choice.

Posted by: theropingeffect | August 30, 2008 4:19 AM | Report abuse

At first I thought that McCain had finally lost all his marbles,in picking a rank amateur with no national experience. After doing a little research, however, and after watching Maria Bartiromo's interview with the new Governor of Alaska, it is apparent to me that the old man did not make this choice after all.

The choice was made for him by the same people that brought us George Bush and Dick Cheney- None other than the people who brought us the war in Iraq. Big oil.

The whole Bartiromo/Palin interview is propaganda for big oil. and drilling in the Anwr. She is simply a shill for the big oil companies posing as a hockey mom. Her husband has worked for British Petroleum for over 20 years, and she was put into office to carry out their policies.

Drilling in the Artic National Wildlife Refuge is environmenatally courting disaster, and it simply won't lower the price of oil.

It is extremely costly to drill this way, and to have the oil travel thousands of miles through a pipeline that must be heated and constantly monitored is expensive and dangerous. It can never be cost competitive over sources in the middle east which can pump their oil at a fraction of the cost of either Anwr or offshore. The price of oil indeed is not determined by short term supply and demand as Sarah says, but by the hedge fund speculators and the obscene profits that the majors have decided that they can get away with in Bush's last days in office.

When Bush started the war in Iraq the price was $1.75 per gallon. Iraq was pumping over 3,000,000 gallons a day and selling it outside the OPEC cartel. When we invaded, it took the cheap oil off the market allowing OPEC to raise the price. It was indeed a war about the control of oil- not about WMD's, freedom, or the security of America.

Palin uses all the oil trade slang like "oil hungry," to make the case for her persistent call for expanded drilling. Has she forgotten what the Exxon Valdez did to the Native American fishermen? It will happen again.

Big oil made Bush governor of Texas, then President of the United States. Now it is trying to put McSame and Palin in office to carry out their business for them.

It is not about electing a woman, it is simply about electing people friendly to the oil cartels.

Not this time.

Posted by: Elizabeth Gilmore | August 30, 2008 3:55 AM | Report abuse

Last I recall, the only reason Sarah Palin made your "VP Stakes" list was as a PASS FAKE....guised as "A HAIL MARY PASS".....


So who is in the know?


Democrats had a winning coalition with HRC and instead the media chose to mock that suggestion.

Looks like the point guard has a clear shot at it.....

I find it amusing how the same OL' boys club attacked her today......... politics as usual...more of the same

So who is showing their true colors?

Exactly!!


All Mccain has to do is what the DNC failed to .......denounce the underlying SEXIST agenda at play here

WAKE UP


Posted by: jws/America08 | August 30, 2008 3:18 AM | Report abuse

Most people have yet to realize the true reason why McCain picked Sarah Palin.

Here is the true reason:

Palin comes with a ready-made misconduct scandal ("Wootengate") already well underway, guaranteeing that she will quickly take the media spotlight off McCain and the state of the Bush economy. Since McCain has no solutions to anything, distracting the media is an urgent necessity. Just before the election, McCain can dump her and replace her with someone else.

Posted by: ILoveAmerica | August 30, 2008 2:31 AM | Report abuse

But if McCain wanted to make an impression, it was not a positive one.

What were you smoking?

Posted by: Easy on the eyes. | August 30, 2008 2:22 AM | Report abuse

McCain made a great choice. He's replacing his rich trophy wife for an athletic beauty queen half his age. This gives new meaning the "porkbarreling".
McCain you are a pig and you are not going to bring this country down with you.

Posted by: I'm not surprised. | August 30, 2008 2:20 AM | Report abuse

What a joke.
McCain just handed the keys to the White Hous to the DEMS.
I'm demoralized.
This must be the most reckless thing McCain has ever done.

Posted by: Stunned! | August 30, 2008 2:16 AM | Report abuse

Look at

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Condoleezza_Rice

and

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Palin

Too bad He never knew there were any women in the Republican party who were actually talented, smart and capable. So he picks someone who ran on a ticket of republicans are corrupt, so vote for me?

Sigh. At least she looks good in fur.

Posted by: Go Figure | August 30, 2008 2:14 AM | Report abuse

So if you can get to work on your knees you can qualify for VEEP?

Posted by: Disappointed | August 30, 2008 2:14 AM | Report abuse

If I know little about OBAMA, I know less about Palin.
I seriously have to question McCain's judgement. Palin has much less experience than Obama. 2 years as AK governor is hardly experience and mayor of a town of less than 10k hardly qualifies her as a President if McCain dies in office.
This is very wreckless of McCain.
I guess the GOP will not retain the White House.

Posted by: Great, the Dems have it! | August 30, 2008 2:07 AM | Report abuse

There could actually be something to this.

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That baby with Downs syndrome is not Sarah Palin's baby at all , but the baby of her eldest daughter and Sarah Palin faked the birth to cover up her daughter's unwanted pregnancy.

Posted by: This just in | August 30, 2008 12:38 AM

Posted by: Anonymous | August 30, 2008 1:15 AM | Report abuse

When Obama picked Biden as his VP everyone agreed he picked the best person out of all of the finalists (and many think he was the best possible pick period.)

McCain's pick is having the opposite impact, the growing consensus is that she is the worst of all of McCain's finalists; and worse than a few hundred other options.

The office of Vice President is not an internship or an apprenticeship or a civics lesson or even on the job training. The VP must be ready day 1; especially when the person in the top job is 72 years old with a history of cancer.

She seems like a nice enough lady but is she even capable of mastering the issues of the day?

To say the least, this is a very risky pick for McCain and I don't want that sort of risk taker to be in control of "the button" or the military or the budget or the CIA. He isn't a maverick; he is a crazy man.

Posted by: Peninsula Matt | August 30, 2008 1:00 AM | Report abuse

As an American, I am embarrassed by John's pick and how little regard he has for the situation our country would be in should, God forbid, he were elected and, God forbid, he could not then complete his term. I am also sad that he does not realize that with his age and health concerns that he, more than most, seems to have failed to keep this in mind. IS THIS PATRIOTISM?

Sarah might prove to be a terrific choice, but who does John think he is to choose someone who has not been in the national limelight or gone before the American people from coast-to-coast? Does he not know about Spiro Agnew or Dan Quyale - both choices the American people wish the respective candidates at the time had not chosen?

Sarah never ran for national office or never served at the national level to give Americans a chance to accept or reject her. Say what you want about Obama's experience, but he has gone from coast-to-coast and put himself and his ideas before the American people. If you are inexperienced or unknown, I contend you are not someone who should be picked by the candidate alone; you should be vetted by the American people.

Posted by: Byron | August 30, 2008 12:57 AM | Report abuse

That baby with Downs syndrome is not Sarah Palin's baby at all , but the baby of her eldest daughter and Sarah Palin faked the birth to cover up her daughter's unwanted pregnancy.

Posted by: This just in | August 30, 2008 12:38 AM | Report abuse

I'm another disillusioned dem voting McCain/Palin.

Obama is too liberal (impractical) for me.

Posted by: Kate Sheahan | August 30, 2008 12:35 AM | Report abuse

The comments on this blog are either hostile or condescending or both. It seems most of the country knows which party they were voting for way before any candidate got the nomination and once again it is about which strategy will be more clever and palatable and which people can control the scandal machine. A pathetic degradation of the political process playing to the vile and ever present lowest common denominator.

This is the election which will decide the future of our economy, world standing, major wars and diplomacy, the roe v. wade decision and the future of the American Education System. In short the soul of the nation is being questioned. I think each citizen should do some serious soul searching before attacking anyone else's views.

Posted by: SteveNY | August 30, 2008 12:35 AM | Report abuse

No, the title should be "Who the Hell is Sarah Palin?"

Posted by: majorteddy | August 30, 2008 12:35 AM | Report abuse

Once again, McCain has shown NO judgement with his VP pick. It is almost insulting to us women, him thinking that any woman would do... With due respect to Mrs. Palin, my first impression of her was that someone was pulling my leg!

Posted by: Macky | August 30, 2008 12:29 AM | Report abuse

Tim wrote: "All I have to say she is easier on the eyes than Dick Cheney or Hillary Clinton!!!"

What a blatantly sexist remark. I may not support McCain/Palin, but I still take strong offense to your characterization of Palin as a sexual object. Certainly, the Palin earned the right to be treated first and foremost as a successful politician.

Posted by: Catherine | August 30, 2008 12:06 AM | Report abuse

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Rumor has it that he asked Hutchinson and Bailey and they both declined. I suppose they saw through his patronizing women by picking one for his VP. Let's hope Hillary supporters will see it as the same.

Posted by: duped | August 30, 2008 12:05 AM | Report abuse

Why she has more to give: Fact: Sarah Palin is the governor of the largest state in the United States, period. Even if it is by landmass only. This gives her the unique opportunity of managing resources and people in extreme conditions. And being responsible for national defense, energy resources, to include natural related issues that the other candidates could only dream of being responsible for. Being that Alaska vicinity to the Russian Federation. I could go on, but the point is. She has more access to protecting the United States defense as a governor at this moment, than Barack Obama. People forget that she is a governor at this moment. While Obama has to convince us he is going to be. Either way, I wish only the best to all the candidates.

Posted by: rob2012endgame | August 29, 2008 11:59 PM | Report abuse

I sit here and read how cruel some of these previous posts are and it makes me sick to my stomach. That some of these people can sit here and down on the down syndrome child of Sarah Palin is in itself pathetic and repulsive! Sarah Palin may not have the "experience" of National and international affairs but she deals with the goings on of a large and diverse state with plenty of issues. In Alaska, here she is the "executive office." She works for the people here. It is my understanding that Senators and Legislators are just a voice in the crowd of a group of people where the majority votes on a descision. While it may be true inexperience is a downfall, others may welcome the change. I personally hope that McCain/Palin win in November and prove all of the people that are cruel and judgmental wrong. I believe that Sarah Palin will fight just as hard for this nation as she does the State of Alaska.

Whats the old saying "Don't judge a book by its cover?"

Good Luck Sarah Palin, this is one of many Alaskans that will be voting for McCain/Palin 2008!

Posted by: Proud Palin Supporter | August 29, 2008 11:48 PM | Report abuse

Why she has more to give: Fact: Sarah Palin is the governor of the largest state in the United States, period. Even if it is by landmass only. This gives her the unique opportunity of managing resources and people in extreme conditions. And being responsible for national defense, energy resources, to include natural related issues that the other candidates could only dream of being responsible for. Being that Alaska vicinity to the Russian Federation. I could go on, but the point is. She has more access to protecting the United States defense as a governor at this moment, than Barack Obama. People forget that she is a governor at this moment. While Obama has to convince us he is going to be. Either way, I wish only the best to all the candidates.

Posted by: rob2012endgame | August 29, 2008 11:47 PM | Report abuse

Why she has more to give: Fact: Sarah Palin is the governor of the largest state in the United States, period. Even if it is by landmass only. This gives her the unique opportunity of managing resources and people in extreme conditions. And being responsible for national defense, energy resources, to include natural related issues that the other candidates could only dream of being responsible for. Being that Alaska vicinity to the Russian Federation. I could go on, but the point is. She has more access to protecting the United States defense as a governor at this moment, than Barack Obama. People forget that she is a governor at this moment. While Obama has to convince us he is going to be. Either way, I wish only the best to all the candidates.

Posted by: rob2012endgame | August 29, 2008 11:45 PM | Report abuse

Oh my yes, this Hillary supporter will be only too happy to fall for McCain's choice for the V. P. Here is a Republican doing what the Democratic candidate didn't have the backbone to do. BHO was so intimidated by Hillary he was afraid of picking her as his running mate because she was more popular, erudite, and actually
has a platform of ideas that appealed to the American electorate.
Good going John McCain-I like people who
don't mind stirring things up for the people they serve and Palin seems to be just the ticket.
Hillary Democrat for McCain-Palin.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 11:40 PM | Report abuse

I really do not see the correlation between Palin's inexperience and Obama's. Palin is running for V.P. She will basically be observing and learning, not making any real decisions. Obama is the one running to lead the country so his experience matters more than hers. I think McCain still has a very strong argument against Obama. Even if McCain does not serve his full term Palin will have gained the necessary experience to be commander in Chief after serving as VP for a few years. I don't understand why people are trying to compare Obama and Palin you can't.

Posted by: anonymous | August 29, 2008 11:39 PM | Report abuse

Let's see. Twenty plus years after the Democrats pick a woman for VP and a few weeks after a hotly contested Democratic primary between a woman, Hillary Clinton and a black man, Barack Obama, in which Obama won by a heartbeat the Republicans pick a white woman for VP? And they call this news? They're only twenty years late and a pound foolish. Hillary Clinton was a really qualified candidate in a race where there can be only one winner. I don't think anyone in the Democratic party considered her a token female, I'm sure Barack Obama didn't.

Palin's background doesn't warrant her being a 72 year old's heart beat away from the presidency, man or woman.

Also, after several months of Republican negative advertising about Obama's lack of experience they pick some one with no experience. Sounds like a lot of ad dollars wasted.

Also,

Posted by: JED Guertin | August 29, 2008 11:33 PM | Report abuse

I think Sarah Palin is an interesting choice, in that she is not the person we were expecting, but he could have surprised us with a more experienced politician, such as Senator Olympia Snowe. His pick smacks of tokenism, and desperation, and fails to satisfy many of us men who feel that only a woman could sort out the mess that Bush will leave behind.
Also, Biden has been a Senator for 8 years longer than McCain, so I'm not quite sure how he is rated as being less experienced... Republicans, and their gift with numbers - no wonder the economy is doing so well.

Posted by: Olly | August 29, 2008 11:26 PM | Report abuse

Would someone please fire Bill Burton or at least demote him to licking envelopes? I'm a huge Obama supporter, but every quote I see from the guy leaves me dismayed. When any idiot can see that the situation calls for graciousness and restraint-the Republicans are about to nominate their first woman VP candidate for crying out loud-he's opening fire and engaging in the very knee-jerk politics that Obama has called on people to reject. Bill Burton: That's not the change we need; that's just more of the same.

Posted by: clear2d | August 29, 2008 11:23 PM | Report abuse

Look, this country needs to get back on a christian track, and this is the way to do it - not get some heathen faux-muslim with a name like the former dictator of a country that we are at war at. She is a conservative christian, and she will appoint more christians who will help us to overturn roe vs wade and much of the other liberalism from the radical 70's movement. She has had far more experience at running things than her opponents in the other party, and will help keep this country on the right, and help us to win this war against the government of iraq. Long live the republican party, and long live john mccain. Those of you who don't support john mccain are like those long-haired do-gooder pot-smoking hippy-beatnicks of the leftist 1960's and 1970's. We need to get back to conservative values.

Posted by: George Sanchez | August 29, 2008 11:12 PM | Report abuse

Can I say one thing about "experience," if you compare Palin's with Obama no contest. Let us look at this with clear eyes: Obama has 8 years in the IL Legislature, the State's biggest City, Chicago, has more people than the entire State of Alaska. Obama has almost 4 years in the Senate, has worked on National and International issues, including the Nuclear Weapons Proliferation Bill with Repuplican Dick Luger. Ms Palin was elected mayor in a tiny town north of Alaska, and now has been Governor for less than 2 years...she has no National experience, let alone International. I also just heard an OP-ED Writer with one of the Alaska papers; he had a luke-warm opinion of Mrs. Palin. We must remember that this woman will be one heart-beat (although with McCain turning 72 today, maybe half a heart-beat) away from the Presidency.

Posted by: radical_moderate | August 29, 2008 11:03 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, there was a little inaccuracy in my previous post. I wrote "less than two terms as governor of Alaska", when I meant to write "less than two years". Just goes to show folks, it's only going to get worse. "Stay tuned . . ." LOL

Posted by: Herculano Fecteau | August 29, 2008 11:01 PM | Report abuse

"Stay tuned for much more on the Palin pick . . ."

Much more indeed. What more is there to say? Two terms as mayor of West Bootybump, Alaska, population 6,715 (excuse me, Wasilla, rhymes with Magilla Gorilla). Less than two terms as Governor of Alaska. Still not sure global warming is "man-made", annoyed that polar bears have been listed as endangered because it threatens her support for oil drilling in the Alaska wildlife refuge, tried to promote the teaching of creationism in public schools, anti-choice even in cases of rape and incest (oo, that one's sure to pull in the disgruntled Hillary supporters). Whoa, almost neglected to mention -- head of the Alaska National Guard, B.A. in journalism and first runner-up in the Miss Alaska pageant. Now THERE'S a trump to Sen. Obama's law degrees from Columbia and Harvard, his presidency of the Harvard Law Review, and Joe Biden's twenty-plus years of experience in foreign affairs.

It's embarassing that this selection has even been foisted upon us as a (serious?) topic of discussion. The Bush/Cheney years may have turned this country into a world laughing stock and the focus of international disdain, but a McCain/Palin Administration would be beyond the pale. Great news for the Democrats, though. Go Obama/Biden 2008!

Posted by: Herculano Fecteau | August 29, 2008 10:46 PM | Report abuse

"Stay tuned for much more on the Palin pick . . ."

Much more indeed. What more is there to say? Two terms as mayor of West Bootybump, Alaska, population 6,715 (excuse me, Wasilla, rhymes with Magilla Gorilla). Less than two terms as Governor of Alaska. Still not sure global warming is "man-made", annoyed that polar bears have been listed as endangered because it threatens her support for oil drilling in the Alaska wildlife refuge, tried to promote the teaching of creationism in public schools, anti-choice even in cases of rape and incest (oo, that one's sure to pull in the disgruntled Hillary supporters). Whoa, almost neglected to mention -- head of the Alaska National Guard, B.A. in journalism and first runner-up in the Miss Alaska pageant. Now THERE'S a trump to Sen. Obama's law degrees from Columbia and Harvard, his presidency of the Harvard Law Review, and Joe Biden's twenty-plus years of experience in foreign affairs.

It's embarassing that this selection has even been foisted upon us as a (serious?) topic of discussion. The Bush/Cheney years may have turned this country into a world laughing stock and the focus of international disdain, but a McCain/Palin Administration would be beyond the pale. Great news for the Democrats, though. Go Obama/Biden 2008!

Posted by: Herculano Fecteau | August 29, 2008 10:45 PM | Report abuse

I want to point out that there are, on this board and in commentary everywhere today, the prolonged Democratic wail: how many times did he meet with her?

This odd question is pretty revealing, actually. Firstly, it reveals that the pundits and strategists all knew that McCain met with her once (well maybe another time secretly) and then apparently dismissed her.

I think it's obvious what this means -- and it doesn't mean that McCain was negligent in his selection process. McCain went through a long, drawn out, repeated-meeting and oft-talking courtship process WITH THE PEOPLE HE WAS MOST LIKELY NOT GOING TO PICK.

McCain totally faked out the Obama spies, machine and strategists. His faux, lengthy and apparently transparent courtship process that was so different than the murky, hyped Obama VP selection process, was a total misinformation campaign. McCain got the Obama machine to totally buy into a short list consisting of old white men and one young white guy, just by letting the spies be misled by his pattern of who he was having contact with.

McCain duped Obama into thinking that the Fall contest would be against a Republican ticket with two old white men on it. He suckered Obama into snubbing Hillary Clinton and spending the rest of the general election with the old, absurd, goofy Joe Biden hanging over his shoulder.

And McCain promptly picked up his own, larger-than-life, impassioned, admirable and cute ANNIE OAKLEY.

HA HA HA HA!

Posted by: AsperGirl | August 29, 2008 10:24 PM | Report abuse


Ah, the miracle of youtube Notice who sponsored for the ad.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nTX-oJUCaU

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 10:07 PM | Report abuse


Ah, the miracle of youtube Notice who sponsored for the ad.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nTX-oJUCaU

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 10:05 PM | Report abuse

What a sad testimonial about McCain. I guess I should be a pundit, because 2 days ago I mentioned after seeing HRC's speech, watch McSame pick a woman like Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin. My wife said, who the heck is Palin? I read about her not long ago and I thought about the pro-lifers and the disenchanted HRC supporters. Well, as a formally disenchanted HRC supporter, this is one more reason I won't vote for McCain. All that bellyaching about Obama's lack of experience, I have more experience then her. I'm a Viet Vet and I retired a GS-15 from the gov't, and I went to better schools. Oh I forgot, I'm not a right wing messianic Christian born again. Then again, McCain changed his faith when he
divorced his ex and married Cindy a month later in '80. Being I've had the same wife for 40 years, I guess I'm boring?

Posted by: Sean L. | August 29, 2008 9:50 PM | Report abuse

I can't believe the Democrats are going to use the "inexperinced" arguement when Mayor and Governor count as Executive experience, and being the head of the States National Guard gives her a one up on Obama.

And if I remember correctly, didn't the anti-war Obama pick a VP Candiate who voted for the war?

Posted by: dale | August 29, 2008 9:45 PM | Report abuse

I can't believe the Democrats are going to use the "inexperinced" arguement when Mayor and Governor count as Executive experience, and being the head of the States National Guard gives her a one up on Obama.

And if I remember correctly, didn't the anti-war Obama pick a VP Candiate who voted for the war?

Posted by: dale | August 29, 2008 9:43 PM | Report abuse

I can't believe the Democrats are going to use the "inexperinced" arguement when Mayor and Governor count as Executive experience, and being the head of the States National Guard gives her a one up on Obama.

And if I remember correctly, didn't the anti-war Obama pick a VP Candiate who voted for the war?

Posted by: dale | August 29, 2008 9:42 PM | Report abuse

unreal. we will see so many images of her with the other members of the AK delegation. yes, AK is beautiful, people are great, but the politics? Sketchy at best. She will be featured in photographs standing next to Ted and Don for the next two months, on an endless, so you better get used to it. Mad Mac, this is like you picked a human lime green background that no matter what, when you're standing with her, you will look sickly and old. what were your advisor's thinking?!

Posted by: PreAmeriKKKan | August 29, 2008 9:15 PM | Report abuse

Obviously, Gov. Sarah Palin is full of holes in her undies. And the Democrats will surely let the world know about it. However,
WHEN COMPARED TO SEN. BARAK OBAMA, SHE IS STILL MORE SUBSTANTIVE AND HONEST.

Plus, she is a woman, with five children ( I can tell you five children and a career at 44 years is a hell of a challenge).

Posted by: Roses | August 29, 2008 9:06 PM | Report abuse

So she's against pork, huh? Even if it meant opening up her home state to oil drilling? Something tells me she's a fraud.

And how in the hell is she the face of reform in the GOP? Actually, when you think about it, it makes perfect sense: "reform" is a foreign concept to the GOP, and so is she unknown.

Posted by: milo janus | August 29, 2008 8:46 PM | Report abuse

In the introduction this morning, one RNC handler noted that Alaska borders on Russia and Canada, therefore Gov Palin has international relations experience. What a stretch! It would be the same as claiming that a prisoner in Sing-Sing prison for 5-1/2 years is qualified to become the director of the FBI . . . or am I confusing being commander-in-chief after serving a long prison term?

Posted by: Clair Weiss | August 29, 2008 8:45 PM | Report abuse

I didn't like her when she first came on the scene here in Alaska, because I thought she was just a pretty face with big breasts. But over the years, she's won my respect, because I work in the oil industry also. She has demonstrated more inspired, wise, and genuine leadership than her short time in office suggests. I hope America manages to see this through the fog of politics and her not just being a hot bimbo for the NRP.

What I especially like about her leadership (boobies) is that she leads by doing, not just talking. (yawnnnnnn) And while she's willing to stick her own neck (boobs) out for what's right, she's also able to work with honest opponents to achieve pragmatic compromise. (zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz) She's the kind of leader a working democracy needs. mehhhhhhh.

It's clear to me, though, that Sarah is a Mom first, A Born Again Christian second, and a politician who doesn't know what the hell is going on. To me, that's about the highest compliment I could pay any politician (with big breasts). I want someone in office who cares more about people than politics. When I watched her (jiggle around) choose to keep Trig (her Down's syndrome child) sobbbbbbbbbbbbb.. snifff.. that pretty much sealed my approval of Sarah. It's one thing to say you're pro-retard. It's another to live it out with personal sacrifice and grace.

She has my vote - AND my boyfriends. Now, and when she runs for president in 2012.

P.S.: I saw her the other day (bong!!!!) when I was on my workout jog through the Glen Alps trailhead. She was doing a porn video shoot on the look-out over Anchorage, and we happened to be leaving at the same time. She walked right by me (double bong!!) with a couple of her retinue (wtf is this word?), but I didn't intrude. She drove herself down the mountain in a small sedan. I found myself just behind her, in a three-car procession. Kind of cool if you don't have a life, like me.

Posted by: Fig Newton | August 29, 2008 8:23 PM | Report abuse

I didn't like her when she first came on the scene here in Alaska, because I thought she was just a pretty face with big breasts. But over the years, she's won my respect, because I work in the oil industry also. She has demonstrated more inspired, wise, and genuine leadership than her short time in office suggests. I hope America manages to see this through the fog of politics and her not just being a hot bimbo for the NRP.

What I especially like about her leadership (boobies) is that she leads by doing, not just talking. (yawnnnnnn) And while she's willing to stick her own neck (boobs) out for what's right, she's also able to work with honest opponents to achieve pragmatic compromise. (zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz) She's the kind of leader a working democracy needs. mehhhhhhh.

It's clear to me, though, that Sarah is a Mom first, A Born Again Christian second, and a politician who doesn't know what the hell is going on. To me, that's about the highest compliment I could pay any politician (with big breasts). I want someone in office who cares more about people than politics. When I watched her (jiggle around) choose to keep Trig (her Down's syndrome child) sobbbbbbbbbbbbb.. snifff.. that pretty much sealed my approval of Sarah. It's one thing to say you're pro-retard. It's another to live it out with personal sacrifice and grace.

She has my vote - AND my boyfriends. Now, and when she runs for president in 2012.

P.S.: I saw her the other day (bong!!!!) when I was on my workout jog through the Glen Alps trailhead. She was doing a porn video shoot on the look-out over Anchorage, and we happened to be leaving at the same time. She walked right by me (double bong!!) with a couple of her retinue (wtf is this word?), but I didn't intrude. She drove herself down the mountain in a small sedan. I found myself just behind her in a three-car procession. Kind of cool. (i know im lame)

Posted by: Fig T. Newton | August 29, 2008 8:20 PM | Report abuse

I didn't like her when she first came on the scene here in Alaska, because I thought she was just a pretty face. But over the years, she's won my respect. She has demonstrated more inspired, wise, and genuine leadership than her short time in office suggests. I hope America manages to see this through the fog of politics.

What I especially like about her leadership is that she leads by doing, not just talking. And while she's willing to stick her own neck out for what's right, she's also able to work with honest opponents to achieve pragmatic compromise. She's the kind of leader a working democracy needs.

It's clear to me, though, that Sarah is a Mom first, and a politician second. To me, that's about the highest compliment I could pay any politician. I want someone in office who cares more about people than politics. When I watched her choose to keep Trig (her Down's syndrome child) that pretty much sealed my approval of Sarah. It's one thing to say you're pro-life. It's another to live it out with personal sacrifice and grace.

She has my vote - AND my wife's. Now, and when she runs for president in 2012.

P.S.: I saw her the other day when I was on my workout jog through the Glen Alps trailhead. She was doing a video shoot on the look-out over Anchorage, and we happened to be leaving at the same time. She walked right by me with a couple of her retinue, but I didn't intrude. She drove herself down the mountain in a small sedan. I found myself just behind her in a three-car procession. Kind of cool.

Posted by: T. Newton | August 29, 2008 8:15 PM | Report abuse

I didn't like her when she first came on the scene here in Alaska, because I thought she was just a pretty face. But over the years, she's won my respect. She has demonstrated more inspired, wise, and genuine leadership than her short time in office suggests. I hope America manages to see this through the fog of politics.

What I especially like about her leadership is that she leads by doing, not just talking. And while she's willing to stick her own neck out for what's right, she's also able to work with honest opponents to achieve pragmatic compromise. She's the kind of leader a working democracy needs.

It's clear to me, though, that Sarah is a Mom first, and a politician second. To me, that's about the highest compliment I could pay any politician. I want someone in office who cares more about people than politics. When I watched her choose to keep Trig (her Down's syndrome child) that pretty much sealed my approval of Sarah. It's one thing to say you're pro-life. It's another to live it out with personal sacrifice and grace.

She has my vote - AND my wife's. Now, and when she runs for president in 2012.

P.S.: I saw her the other day when I was on my workout jog through the Glen Alps trailhead. She was doing a video shoot on the look-out over Anchorage, and we happened to be leaving at the same time. She walked right by me with a couple of her retinue, but I didn't intrude. She drove herself down the mountain in a small sedan. I found myself just behind her in a three-car procession. Kind of cool.

Posted by: T. Newton | August 29, 2008 8:11 PM | Report abuse

I didn't like her when she first came on the scene here in Alaska, because I thought she was just a pretty face. But over the years, she's won my respect. She has demonstrated more inspired, wise, and genuine leadership than her short time in office suggests. I hope America manages to see this through the fog of politics.

What I especially like about her leadership is that she leads by doing, not just talking. And while she's willing to stick her own neck out for what's right, she's also able to work with honest opponents to achieve pragmatic compromise. She's the kind of leader a working democracy needs.

It's clear to me, though, that Sarah is a Mom first, and a politician second. To me, that's about the highest compliment I could pay any politician. I want someone in office who cares more about people than politics. When I watched her choose to keep Trig (her Down's syndrome child) that pretty much sealed my approval of Sarah. It's one thing to say you're pro-life. It's another to live it out with personal sacrifice and grace.

She has my vote - AND my wife's. Now, and when she runs for president in 2012.

P.S.: I saw her the other day when I was on my workout jog through the Glen Alps trailhead. She was doing a video shoot on the look-out over Anchorage, and we happened to be leaving at the same time. She walked right by me with a couple of her retinue, but I didn't intrude. She drove herself down the mountain in a small sedan. I found myself just behind her in a three-car procession. Kind of cool.

Posted by: T. Newton | August 29, 2008 8:10 PM | Report abuse

just think. if mccain died in office, our president would wear sparkly flag pins and claim foreign policy experience because her child is fighting in iraq.

the very fact that mccain did this to try to dupe disgruntled women voters to vote for him shows he has no capacity for understanding what smart educated women want in a presidental election and sarah palin is not it.

it is patronizing to the core that he would pick her over kay hutchinson or any other compentent woman senator. she is a puppet, a tool used by the party to try to lure voters over.

it won't work.

Posted by: kmh | August 29, 2008 8:09 PM | Report abuse

"I hope the Democratic party attacks her for be a mom of five and raising a family. Certainly motherhood that is not a job which gives a person any useful life experiences. Half the country will agree here. And a Down's child. Barak already knows that even if Trig survived an abortion on he should have beeen left in the pail. He's not cute like his girls."

hah ha hahha hha.. ha.. It's going to be great to see Trig hanging with George W. Bush when this lady does becomes VP. Finally, George W. Bush won't be the only retard in the White House.

Posted by: Summerfish | August 29, 2008 8:08 PM | Report abuse

The disaffected HRC supporters who flock to Govenor Palin will be rewarded with a Vice President who can win the ticket in 2012.

Posted by: BLT | August 29, 2008 8:04 PM | Report abuse

"When I watched her choose to keep Trig (her Down's syndrome child) that pretty much sealed my approval of Sarah."

P.S.: I saw her the other day when I was on my workout jog through the Glen Alps trailhead. She was doing a video shoot on the look-out over Anchorage, and we happened to be leaving at the same time. She walked right by me with a couple of her retinue, but I didn't intrude. She drove herself down the mountain in a small sedan. I found myself just behind her in a three-car procession. Kind of cool."

Posted by: t newton"

Wow. i never knew how lame talking points sounded until I visited this message board....both Republican and Democarat.
t newton might possibly the most unintersting person in the state of Alaska if he finds driving in a procession down a mountain is 'Kind of cool'.. omg these are hillarious..

Posted by: summerfish | August 29, 2008 8:00 PM | Report abuse

I hope that the Democratic party will attack her beauty pagent try. But they should check and see if Govenor Granholm of Michigan will sign on first to this devestating strategy. Of course we all recognise that politics bears no resemblance at all to a beauty contest just ask John( $400 Haircut) Edwards.

I hope the Democratic party attacks her for be a mom of five and raising a family. Certainly motherhood that is not a job which gives a person any useful life experiences. Half the country will agree here. And a Down's child. Barak already knows that even if Trig survived an abortion he should have beeen left in the pail. He's not cute like his girls.

I hope the Democratic party attacks her for being a small town mayor. That will send a good message to all who live in any hick town that their problems and management are neither complicated nor important. Only idiots and Republicans live in the country. Forget that the Senate numbers is 100 and the House 435. The 535 DC insiders constitute an entire universe of their own (Outsiders NOT Welcome).

I hope the Democratic Party attacks her for the stupid idea of running against her own party to root out corruption. Senator Obama was smart enough in Illinois not to do any thing so silly.He even still likes his indicted neighbor Tony Resko. That's Chicago for you.

Finally I hope that the Democratic party attacks her for her natural gas pipeline position. We dont need Alaska's stinging energy when we can inflate our tires (Bicycle tire) and pedal to work.

If the Democratic party listens to me together we can insure the future of our country and elect the best canidates possible for the presidency and vice presidency.

I hope you follow my advice

Posted by: RLT | August 29, 2008 7:59 PM | Report abuse

"Compare the tickets:
1.McCain:The most experienced politician on either side of the tickets this year
2.Biden:Second most experienced politician
3.Palin:Next most experienced politician but more executive experience and even the above two.
4.Obama:Least experienced with no executive experience what so ever"

bwwwwaahhhhhhhaaa haaaa haa ha ha.. this has to be the funniest thing i've read on the WaPo over the last month.. omg people.. i'm trying to catch my breath..keep them coming. .

Posted by: summerfish | August 29, 2008 7:50 PM | Report abuse

How many times has McCain met with Palin before this election? Where do they stand together on policy? Why does he think they can govern together? How can we have a V.P. that is just "not really interested in Iraq"? Why does McCain think that out of all the people in this country, Palin would be his pick for President of the United States, other then him? Where is the concern for the United States of America? When is Sen. McCain going to start running a campaign for Sen. McCain, not attacking Obama, or finding the biggest sideshow to sell?

Posted by: Confused | August 29, 2008 7:26 PM | Report abuse

Way to pitch some campaign talking points there T. Newton.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 7:24 PM | Report abuse

I didn't like her when she first came on the scene here in Alaska, because I thought she was just a pretty face. But over the years, she's won my respect. She has demonstrated more inspired, wise, and genuine leadership than her short time in office suggests. I hope America manages to see this through the fog of politics.

What I especially like about her leadership is that she leads by doing, not just talking. And she's willing to stick her own neck out for what's right, yet able to work with honest opponents to achieve pragmatic compromise. She's the kind of leader a working democracy needs.

It's clear to me, though, that Sarah is a Mom first, and a politician second. To me, that's about the highest compliment I could pay anyone. I want someone in office who cares more about people than politics. When I watched her choose to keep Trig (her Down's syndrome child) that pretty much sealed my approval of Sarah. It's one thing to say you're pro-life. It's another to live it out with personal sacrifice and grace.

She has the vote of this male WASP and his wife. Now, and when she runs for president in 2012.

P.S.: I saw her the other day when I was on my workout jog through the Glen Alps trailhead. She was doing a video shoot on the look-out over Anchorage, and we happened to be leaving at the same time. She walked right by me with a couple of her retinue, but I didn't intrude. She drove herself down the mountain in a small sedan. I found myself just behind her in a three-car procession. Kind of cool.

Posted by: T. Newton | August 29, 2008 7:14 PM | Report abuse

By the way, Palin, 16 months as Governor, mayor of a city with a population of 6,500. Sen. Obama, 8 years in State Senate, 3 years in national Senate, Harvard law degree. Palin has a B.A. in journalism. Not quite the same 'experience'.

Posted by: Confused | August 29, 2008 7:12 PM | Report abuse

she is prettier than Joe Biden. I will give her that. But what exactly is different about a pro-life, pro-NRA Republican? Just because she has given birth to children?

I sincerely hope that the PUMAs recognize the patronizing insult to their intelligence in picking Palin simply because she is a woman.

Posted by: Ann | August 29, 2008 7:10 PM | Report abuse

I didn't like her when she first came on the scene here in Alaska, because I thought she was just a pretty face. But over the years, she's won my respect. She has demonstrated more inspired, wise, and genuine leadership than her short time in office suggests. I hope America manages to see this through the fog of politics.

What I especially like about her leadership is that she leads by doing, not just talking. And she's willing to stick her own neck out for what's right, yet able to work with honest opponents to achieve pragmatic compromise. She's the kind of leader a working democracy needs.

It's clear to me, though, that Sarah is a Mom first, and a politician second. To me, that's about the highest compliment I could pay anyone. I want someone in office who cares more about people than politics. When I watched her choose to keep Trig (her Down's syndrome child) that pretty much sealed my approval of Sarah. It's one thing to say you're pro-life. It's another to live it out with personal sacrifice and grace.

She has the vote of this male WASP and his wife. Now, and when she runs for president in 2012.

P.S.: I saw her the other day when I was on my workout jog through the Glen Alps trailhead. She was doing a video shoot on the look-out over Anchorage, and we happened to be leaving at the same time. She walked right by me with a couple of her retinue, but I didn't intrude. She drove herself down the mountain in a small sedan. I found myself just behind her in a three-car procession. Kind of cool.

Posted by: t newton | August 29, 2008 7:09 PM | Report abuse

How many times has McCain met with Palin before this election? Where do they stand together on policy? Why does he think they can govern together? How can we have a V.P. that is just "not really interested in Iraq"? Why does McCain think that out of all the people in this country, Palin would be his pick for President of the United States, other then him? Where is the concern for the United States of America? When is Sen. McCain going to start running a campaign for Sen. McCain, not attacking Obama, or finding the biggest sideshow to sell?

Posted by: Confused | August 29, 2008 7:01 PM | Report abuse

Brilliant choice.She has more experience than Obama who many people are willing to accept for the highest office in the land.I would say running a state givesa person far more management shills than working in the senate for the same amount of time. She isa reformer, will attract the Woman's vote counteracts Mccain's age factor.The other point is that on the world stage women as international leaders tend to be very good, Maggie Thatcher, Angela Merkel, Golda Meier, Mrs. Ghandi etc. They are less prone to rushes of blood to the head that their opposite sex seems to suffer from sometime.
Providing there is "nasty in the woodshed" which can be uncovered by the gutter dwellers then I think she will be the election winning catalyst for McCain.

Posted by: B I Jones | August 29, 2008 6:52 PM | Report abuse

Karl Rove on the VP Choice:

"I think he's going to make an intensely political choice, not a governing choice...He's going to view this through the prism of a candidate, not through the prism of president; that is to say, he's going to pick somebody that he thinks will on the margin help him in a state like Indiana or Missouri or Virginia. He's not going to be thinking big and broad about the responsibilities of president."

-Said Karl Rove, anticipating Obama would select Gov Tim Kaine as his VP

"With all due respect again to Governor Kaine, he's been a governor for three years, he's been able but undistinguished. I don't think people could really name a big, important thing that he's done. He was mayor of the 105th largest city in America. So if he were to pick Governor Kaine, it would be an intensely political choice where he said, `You know what? I'm really not, first and foremost, concerned with, is this person capable of being president of the United States? What I'm concerned about is, can he bring me the electoral votes of the state of Virginia, the 13 electoral votes in Virginia?'"


So if Kaine was a horrible choice that would put politics ahead of the good of the nation, what does this say about the Palin selection? Less experinece than Kaine (3 yrs gov vs less than 2), gov of a smaller state, mayor of a smaller city than Kaine (Richmond, VA vs Wasilla, AK), etc.

Rove says so himself, McCain made a political, rather than a governing choice.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/08/10/ftn/main4336134.shtml

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 6:49 PM | Report abuse


Experience??? Bush was Gov. of Texas and then had four years on the job training in the White House and look at the wonderful job he's done in the last 4 years ! All that "experience" got him a 27%
approval rating as well as the most unpopular President of all time.
Give me O B A M A !

Posted by: billy | August 29, 2008 6:40 PM | Report abuse

Picking Palin was not about attracting disgruntled Clinton supporters. McCain just figured out his attacks on Obama's "celebrity" have stopped working, and plans to change the subject to abortion.

Posted by: John Q. | August 29, 2008 6:38 PM | Report abuse

Far too many of the posts here violate the rules established by the Post. Who, pray tell, is minding the store? Anonymity and pseudonyms deny a fundamental premise of liberal democracy that both voters and officials must display mutual accountability to one another. As a long time public educator, now retired but still performing lots of voluntary public service, far too many of the postings here underscore the desperate need to improve education in America, uncomfortable evidence, of a career spent, in some measure, vainly. Mea culpa!

Posted by: Hendrik Gideonse | August 29, 2008 6:35 PM | Report abuse

"Yes Palin is a woman, but where is she on women's issues? She is pro-life and therefore unlikely to tap the pro-choice voters who would form a significant bloc of Clinton voters"

I've been meaning to ask this. Do polls suggest that women strongly favor pro-choice? Anecdotally, this has not been my experience. I find it about 50% on each side just from asking around.

Posted by: DDAWD | August 29, 2008 6:32 PM | Report abuse

What really gets me is how Grampy McCain got absolutely HOSED by Bush, PUNK'D, both in the Repub primaries (South Carolina 2000, anyone?), then by adopting the lapdog cheerleader role so he could get Bush's base and then. . . voila! no base!!! McCain gets stuck instead with the worst economy, the worst foreign policy, the worst . . . I mean, there's only abject, misereable, putrid failure, as far as the eye can see! McCain gets slathered with the broadest brush of unholy loserdom imagineable.

No one. Especially McCain. Would have thought that the George Bush Republican brand would be so rancid in 2008. And that's what McCain's got now. Timing is everything..."my friends".

Posted by: Bu$h Wacked | August 29, 2008 6:27 PM | Report abuse

John McCain's picking Sarah Palin offers an interesting contrast with Barack Obama's selection of Joe Biden. Both candidates are purported to have some sort of base problem and had to choose between picking a VP who would shore up the base or picking a VP who would appeal to independents -- a Solomon's choice if ever there was one. Which group do you work harder to court? Do you go with the "base" pick to ensure you keep the party regulars, but risk alienating middle-of-the-road voters? Or do you go with the pick who appeals to independents, risking the loss of formerly reliable voters who are now disillusioned?

Obama, supposedly, could have "united" the party by picking Hillary Clinton, at least to her her supporters tell it. But picking Clinton meant energizing Republicans to vote against the Democratic ticket in a year when the Democrats stand to pick up a decent chunk of the Republican voting block due to George W. Bush's unpopularity, and in the end, Obama went with Biden. McCain, on the other hand, elected to go with the "base" pick, ensuring the Christian right elements of the party would be satisfied but taking a gamble that independent voters wouldn't be put off by Palin's cookie-cutter conservative image.

It's actually kind of ironic that the candidates made the choices they did, since conservatives are typically far more likely to vote for an unpopular Republican candidate with the "at least he isn't as bad as the other guy!" justification, whereas liberals are more likely to eschew an unpopular Democrat to prove a point.

On a side note, every time I see that "The Palin Stunner" headline on this blog post, I have to laugh. "The Palin Stunner" just sounds like a wrestling move, doesn't it? "STONE COLD! STONE COLD! STONE COLD! IS GOING TO THE WHITE HOUSE!"

Posted by: VBArthur | August 29, 2008 6:22 PM | Report abuse

We all know that McCain has a thing for younger attractive women. He dumped his wife when her auto accident made her unattractive, after he had affairs with younger women and managed to come up with a really rich one. But Cindy is not the young beauty she once was; Cindy's money is useless to him now, because he is taking the public financing; and Palin is the attractive younger woman he really needs now. So we should all be wondering -- does Cindy have something to worry about?

Posted by: McCain's Floozies | August 29, 2008 6:16 PM | Report abuse

The level of the demeaning comments proffered by the liberals and the "Followers" speaks volumes about one central point about the selection of Governor Palin : they know they have a huge problem now. It is so blindingly obvious. They put on airs but they don't like it a bit.

Posted by: Styder55 | August 29, 2008 6:14 PM | Report abuse

I'm sure that he could have found a better woman to run as his VP, assuming that he picked a woman just to appease women voters who were upset over Hillary or who were thinking that there is a political glass-ceiling.

But on that note, why not a black woman.

Surely there's a black woman out there who is anti-abortion, also a solid right right-wing Republican, who also has a good experience in office?

I mean if he's willing to go to Alaska to get a VP pick, what about the lower 48 states? Nothing there?

Couldn't find a single one?

Posted by: jfc1 | August 29, 2008 6:09 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: 37th&OStreet | August 29, 2008 6:08 PM | Report abuse

Palin is really a Republican after Karl Rove's own blackened tar pit heart - she's a product of the party that produced the indicted Ted Stevens and ethically tarred Don Young, and she's embroiled in a Troopergate scandal of her own, with state investigators looking at serious allegations that Palin abused her office by pressuring the state Public Safety Commissioner to fire "an Alaska state trooper involved in a rough divorce from Palin's sister." Sounds like a woman after Karl Rove's black tar pit colored heart.

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In addition to further associating McCain with the Republican culture of corruption, the Palin pick undermines one of his main anti-Obama narratives. It's going to be laughable to hear McCain assail Obama's supposed lack of experience after naming the first-term governor -- only one-and-a-half years into her term -- of the 47th largest state to be his running mate. Palin lacks any foreign policy experience, and is bereft of even the two core areas of policy expertise that governors are supposed to bring to a ticket -- ag policy (Alaska doesn't have much in the way of traditional agriculture) and urban affairs (Anchorage is the 65th largest city in the US, behind giants such as Corpus Christi). She's easily the least experienced running mate in recent memory, which is pretty scary, given McCain's age and his history of cancer.

Posted by: Bush + Cheney = McCain | August 29, 2008 6:06 PM | Report abuse

"Yes Palin is a woman, but where is she on women's issues? She is pro-life and therefore unlikely to tap the pro-choice voters who would form a significant bloc of Clinton voters"

I've been meaning to ask this. Do polls suggest that women strongly favor pro-choice? Anecdotally, this has not been my experience. I find it about 50% on each side just from asking around.

Posted by: DDAWD | August 29, 2008 6:04 PM | Report abuse

By picking Palin, McCain revealed his desperation to make a splash to rival the genuine excitement generated by the Obama campaign. But desperation leads to poor decisions -- and McCain's Hail Mary, like most last second desperation moves, is destined to fail miserably. He's smeared himself with the pungent mud of Alaska Republican corruption (Ted Stevens, Don Young) while cutting the legs out from one of his most reliable attacks against Obama. And he's presented Americans with the prospect of electing a dangerous neophyte to be a heartbeat away from the presidency, behind a man (McCain) whose life expectancy is less than two presidential terms.

We all expected McCain to pick someone underwhelming to run with him. But we never could have expected a pick worse than Quayle. Yet that's what we got. Thanks, John!

Posted by: Carol | August 29, 2008 6:03 PM | Report abuse

Palin looks and talks like a winner...way to go !

Posted by: Somar 73 | August 29, 2008 6:03 PM | Report abuse

McCain just made things easier for Hillary2012.Its possible that he wont run for a second term.If Palin run in 2012,democrats will be forced to field Hillary!

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 6:00 PM | Report abuse

"Yes Palin is a woman, but where is she on women's issues? She is pro-life and therefore unlikely to tap the pro-choice voters who would form a significant bloc of Clinton voters"

I've been meaning to ask this. Do polls suggest that women strongly favor pro-choice? Anecdotally, this has not been my experience. I find it about 50% on each side just from asking around.

Posted by: DDAWD | August 29, 2008 5:59 PM | Report abuse

By picking Palin, McCain revealed his desperation to make a splash to rival the genuine excitement generated by the Obama campaign. But desperation leads to poor decisions -- and McCain's Hail Mary, like most last second desperation moves, is destined to fail miserably. He's smeared himself with the pungent mud of Alaska Republican corruption (Ted Stevens, Don Young) while cutting the legs out from one of his most reliable attacks against Obama. And he's presented Americans with the prospect of electing a dangerous neophyte to be a heartbeat away from the presidency, behind a man (McCain) whose life expectancy is less than two presidential terms.

We all expected McCain to pick someone underwhelming to run with him. But we never could have expected a pick worse than Quayle. Yet that's what we got. Thanks, John!

Posted by: Carol | August 29, 2008 5:58 PM | Report abuse

Compare the tickets:
1.McCain:The most experienced politician on either side of the tickets this year
2.Biden:Second most experienced politician
3.Palin:Next most experienced politician but more executive experience and even the above two.
4.Obama:Least experienced with no executive experience what so ever

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 5:55 PM | Report abuse

TO: Anonymous who wrote: "She is going to get laughed out of the room if she tries to discuss anything of substance "

Frankly, that's how I think she got "in" in the first place: McStupid thought she was a funny response to the Democrats.

Seems like McSame feels he doesn't need any stinkin V.P. and he probably couldn't find any Republicans that haven't either had an affair, or have some oil stock, or have stock in military hardware.

By the way, if any Republican out there has any idea of how we're going to pay China back for all the money we borrowed from it for the 2 wars, could you please let me know? Looks like Georgie is just going to walk right out the front door and leave it to be somebody else's problem.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 5:55 PM | Report abuse

This is an insult to feminists, women in general, and Hilary Clinton in particular.
Women are not idiots, women do not think just any woman will do. Women of any political inclination should reject this nonsensical choice. Any feminist who is upset enough about Hilary Clinton's rejection by the Democrats to vote for a ticket whose main interest is killing pro-choice is voting against her own interest and that of all women. Phooey. And what an insult to think to substitute a small time inexperienced woman for a serious and experienced politician like Ms. Clinton!

Posted by: Lucy Wollin | August 29, 2008 5:50 PM | Report abuse

I'm sure that he could have found a better woman to run as his VP, assuming that he picked a woman just to appease women voters who were upset over Hillary or who were thinking that there is a political glass-ceiling.

But on that note, why not a black woman.

Surely there's a black woman out there who is anti-abortion, also a solid right right-wing Republican, who also has a good experience in office?

I mean if he's willing to go to Alaska to get a VP pick, what about the lower 48 states? Nothing there?

Couldn't find a single one?

Posted by: jfc1 | August 29, 2008 5:49 PM | Report abuse

Obama has not sought my vote, and McCain has.

Posted by: Hillaryin2012

Just how aggressively do you want to be courted? You'd prefer the GOP pick a woman for the sake of her gender rather than a male who has pledged to recover and protect your civil rights? That's 'seeking' enough for me.

Posted by: deeppeace | August 29, 2008 5:48 PM | Report abuse

By picking Palin, McCain revealed his desperation to make a splash to rival the genuine excitement generated by the Obama campaign. But desperation leads to poor decisions -- and McCain's Hail Mary, like most last second desperation moves, is destined to fail miserably. He's smeared himself with the pungent mud of Alaska Republican corruption (Ted Stevens, Don Young) while cutting the legs out from one of his most reliable attacks against Obama. And he's presented Americans with the prospect of electing a dangerous neophyte to be a heartbeat away from the presidency, behind a man (McCain) whose life expectancy is less than two presidential terms.

We all expected McCain to pick someone underwhelming to run with him. But we never could have expected a pick worse than Quayle. Yet that's what we got. Thanks, John!

Posted by: Carol | August 29, 2008 5:47 PM | Report abuse

This is an insult to feminists, women in general, and Hilary Clinton in particular.
Women are not idiots, women do not think just any woman will do. Women of any political inclination should reject this nonsensical choice. Any feminist who is upset enough about Hilary Clinton's rejection by the Democrats to vote for a ticket whose main interest is killing pro-choice is voting against her own interest and that of all women. Phooey. And what an insult to think to substitute a small time inexperienced woman for a serious and experienced politician like Ms. Clinton!

Posted by: Lucy Wollin | August 29, 2008 5:46 PM | Report abuse

Obama has not sought my vote, and McCain has.

Posted by: Hillaryin2012

Just how aggressively do you want to be courted? You'd prefer the GOP pick a woman for the sake of her gender rather than a male who has pledged to recover and protect your civil rights? That's 'seeking' enough for me.

Posted by: deeppeace | August 29, 2008 5:45 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: 37th&OStreet | August 29, 2008 5:44 PM | Report abuse

This is an insult to feminists, women in general, and Hilary Clinton in particular.
Women are not idiots, women do not think just any woman will do. Women of any political inclination should reject this nonsensical choice. Any feminist who is upset enough about Hilary Clinton's rejection by the Democrats to vote for a ticket whose main interest is killing pro-choice is voting against her own interest and that of all women. Phooey.

Posted by: Lucy Wollin | August 29, 2008 5:44 PM | Report abuse

Pander! Pander! Pander! This was a great choice by McCain to win the political news cycle for the next 14 days but a very poor choice that will cost him the election.

The McCain campaign has really dropped the "political football" with selecting Palin as VP. As I watched CNN, MSNBC, and FOX news this morning when McCain announced Palin as his VP, I saw false enthusiasm on the part of many GOP strategists and poor Senator Kay Bailey Hutchinson sounded indifferent to Palin.

One of the best arguments McCain had against Obama was that of inexperience but now McCain has hurt himself by selecting an even younger and lesser experienced candidate (regardless of how cute she is).

If McCain thinks he will win Hillary supporters by putting a younger former Alaskan beauty pageant contestant with 5 kids and is to the far right of John McCain and whose political experience comprised of presiding over a population of less than 5,000 people up until January of 2007, he truly is desperate and a "woman user".

Posted by: Obama-Junkie | August 29, 2008 5:44 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: 37th&OStreet | August 29, 2008 5:43 PM | Report abuse

Obama has not sought my vote, and McCain has.

Posted by: Hillaryin2012

Just how aggressively do you want to be courted? You'd prefer the GOP pick a woman for the sake of her gender rather than a male who has pledged to recover and protect your civil rights? That's 'seeking' enough for me.

Posted by: deeppeace | August 29, 2008 5:43 PM | Report abuse

As an Independent who has yet to make up my mind, i am blown away first by those who seem to think repeating Barack Obamas middle name over and over will somehow scare me or change my mind. In my mind those who chose to BHO or Barack Hussein Obama are closet racists. So what if his middle name is Hussein? And secondly this talk about in experience. Wasnt George W. Bush touted as having experience in governing and how being the first MBA president would be in his and the country's favor? All i have seen from his experience is favors for big business, trampling on the constitution, starting a war with a country that didnt attack us instead of going after the miscreants that attacked our great land. And his MBA credentials sure came in handy, biggest debt ever racked up by a sitting president. So think about his actions before you start touting someones experience....

Posted by: Independent | August 29, 2008 5:43 PM | Report abuse

This is an insult to feminists, women in general, and Hilary Clinton in particular.
Women are not idiots, women do not think just any woman will do. Women of any political inclination should reject this nonsensical choice. Any feminist who is upset enough about Hilary Clinton's rejection by the Democrats to vote for a ticket whose main interest is killing pro-choice is voting against her own interest and that of all women. Phooey.

Posted by: Lucy Wollin | August 29, 2008 5:43 PM | Report abuse

By picking Palin, McCain revealed his desperation to make a splash to rival the genuine excitement generated by the Obama campaign. But desperation leads to poor decisions -- and McCain's Hail Mary, like most last second desperation moves, is destined to fail miserably. He's smeared himself with the pungent mud of Alaska Republican corruption (Ted Stevens, Don Young) while cutting the legs out from one of his most reliable attacks against Obama. And he's presented Americans with the prospect of electing a dangerous neophyte to be a heartbeat away from the presidency, behind a man (McCain) whose life expectancy is less than two presidential terms.

We all expected McCain to pick someone underwhelming to run with him. But we never could have expected a pick worse than Quayle. Yet that's what we got. Thanks, John!

Posted by: Carol | August 29, 2008 5:42 PM | Report abuse

Will Hillary voters really be stupid enough to fall for this one?

Yes Palin is a woman, but where is she on women's issues? She is pro-life and therefore unlikely to tap the pro-choice voters who would form a significant bloc of Clinton voters

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HRC supporters are not voting mac because he picked Palin. As it was, only 1/2 of them were in favor of Nobama (Nob) anyway. WIth this pick, Mac makes it easier for more HRC supporters to switch allegiances, and to outright vote his ticket, as opposed to sitting home.

You Noba supporting gutter rats have no clue about the depth of anger that many HRC supporters feel at the disgraceful manner in which Nob stole the nomination, and then treated her in the Veppstakes.

Now, for many HRC supporters (well, can only speak for myself, but polls show I am not alone), it is ABN (anyone but Nob)

Posted by: intcamd1 | August 29, 2008 5:42 PM | Report abuse

This is an insult to feminists, women in general, and Hilary Clinton in particular.
Women are not idiots, women do not think just any woman will do. Women of any political inclination should reject this nonsensical choice. Any feminist who is upset enough about Hilary Clinton's rejection by the Democrats to vote for a ticket whose main interest is killing pro-choice is voting against her own interest and that of all women. Phooey.

Posted by: Lucy Wollin | August 29, 2008 5:39 PM | Report abuse

where is the truth squad?

Palin says she fights big oil? She is suing the Federal Government to keep polar bears off the endangered species list so Alaska has a better shot at getting a pipeline!

And what is this nonsense about smoking pot before it was made illegal in Alaska. DID SHE SMOKE POT BEFORE ALASKA WAS A STATE???

Under federal law, marijuana is treated like every other controlled substance, such as cocaine and heroin. The federal government places every controlled substance in a schedule, in principle according to its relative potential for abuse and medicinal value. Under the CSA, marijuana is classified as a Schedule I drug, which means that the federal government views marijuana as highly addictive and having no medical value. Doctors may not "prescribe" marijuana for medical use under federal law.

Posted by: jersey john | August 29, 2008 5:39 PM | Report abuse

I'm sure that he could have found a better woman to run as his VP, assuming that he picked a woman just to appease women voters who were upset over Hillary or who were thinking that there is a political glass-ceiling.

But on that note, why not a black woman.

Surely there's a black woman out there who is anti-abortion, also a solid right right-wing Republican, who also has a good experience in office?

I mean if he's willing to go to Alaska to get a VP pick, what about the lower 48 states? Nothing there?

Couldn't find a single one?

Posted by: jfc1 | August 29, 2008 5:37 PM | Report abuse

Maybe it just me, but doesn't this woman have about the same amount of experience and about the same age as Barack?

OBAMA = PALIN

Now the real question, which ones running for PRESIDENT?

Posted by: JohnW | August 29, 2008 5:34 PM | Report abuse

"Sarah Palin is a mom who protected the life of Trig Palin, a Down's syndrome baby who both of these guys would have killed. I am looking forward to these debates."


Just so you know, something like 90% of Down Syndrome fetuses are aborted. Ms. Palin might not want to become too self-righteous on the topic. There are a lot of people who disagree with her.

Posted by: DDAWD | August 29, 2008 5:34 PM | Report abuse

"Sarah Palin is a mom who protected the life of Trig Palin, a Down's syndrome baby who both of these guys would have killed. I am looking forward to these debates."


Just so you know, something like 90% of Down Syndrome fetuses are aborted. Ms. Palin might not want to become too self-righteous on the topic. There are a lot of people who disagree with her.

Posted by: DDAWD | August 29, 2008 5:33 PM | Report abuse

...you gotta be kidding.

Why not Cindy Sheehan? Why not...Hillary herself?

Even if you're going to hand the VP nomination to a Republican woman to exploit the Hillary issue, this is the best that he could do? Jesus f-ing christ is this what American presidential politics have come down to? Two US Senators pretending to be washington outsiders, two women -one a US senator, the other a state govenor- pretending to be hampered by a glass ceiling?

So apparently they are all entitled to the White House because they are Washington outsiders, "mavericks", "agents of change" and women?

I guess they're going to just walk into D.C., take the Senate and House by the horns, whip 'em into shape and get the US economy up and roaring like a steam-engine! Somehow doing a better job of it than GW has done, over the past 8 years, all while being a serious contrarian and having the whole Republican party under his thumb. These guys are going to go *against* the Establishment and accomplish something?

All that McCain is doing is saying that that he will be a political eunuch in D.C. and that his VP will have even less experience and even less support on the Hill than he does right now. Obama has the outsider card sewn-up but at least he can count on the support of his party, which, by the way, has a growing majority in Congress this election.

Posted by: jfc1 | August 29, 2008 5:28 PM | Report abuse

After reading more nauseating comments than I should have,I would like to state that I am thrilled and sickened to see democracy at work.I am thrilled by the process and I am sickened by a large 'blogging' portion of the populace-Democrats and Republicans.
I am a Democrat.I will vote Obama-Biden.To you hapless and self-serving right leaning Republicans(which do not represent all Republicans),Democrats do not fear McCain's VP choice;we welcome it.To you overly left-leaning Democrats(which do not represent all Democrats),lay off the sexist,shallow,and effusive comments about Governor Palin.
Let the process play out.This no time to denigrate anyone...it never is.The stakes are extremely high this election cycle.The respective tickets are now in place.Let each party make its case and let the electorate make its choice.
Remember,fellow patriots,this is one nation under GOD,not under the Democrat or Republican parties.We all need to be mindful of our spiritual mandate to pray for all of those in public leadership roles...from the President of the United States to the Mayor of Wasilla.
I do not mean to infringe on anyone's 1st amendment rights...this is a free country.I'm appealing to our best senses as Americans to take the choice before us with reverence and seriousness.The gutter-talk and arrogance from so many disturbs me.I hope we can rise above a 'partisan potty-mouth' mentality and maintain a sense of decorum and mutual respect.Our country will be better off if we do this.
Let freedom ring!

Posted by: Sir Realist | August 29, 2008 5:26 PM | Report abuse

I don't believe this is accurate journalism:

"On the other, picking Palin complicates the argument forwarded by McCain that Obama's short resume makes him ill-equipped to be commander in chief. ...McCain will be hard pressed to argue that experience in public life is a critical component of serving in national office."

Sarah Palin is not running for President, so she is not running for Commander in Chief.

Barack Obama is running for President and John Mccain is running for President, so THEY are running for Commander in Chief.

BHO has less experience than Sarah Palin.
BHO has less experience than John McCain.
BHO has less experience than Joe Biden.

So, the Democrat running for President has the least experience to run for Commander in Chief.

And the Democrat running at the top of the ticket has the least experience of anyone on either ticket to run for national office.

They are two separate things, and Sarah Palin is the candidate for VP, not the candidate for POTUS.

Let's not blur the lines here, just because The One asks the MSM to blur the lines.

Posted by: Jan | August 29, 2008 5:25 PM | Report abuse

Looking around the web for something about Palin, as I know almost nothing about her, and found this video on the "trooper-case" - with a couple of on-camera contradictions from Palin...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKNJ6bfBfIk

Although not in her demographic (I like nature, peace, and reason), I think she might appeal to a rather broad swing-state base...

Posted by: Andy | August 29, 2008 5:23 PM | Report abuse

I'm fascinated by the belief 2 years of executive experience in a state with a population 20 times smaller than the state of Illinois qualifies anyone to be one step away from the presidency of the United States.

By this standard, the CEO of Walmart is far more qualified for the position since there are 3 times more employees there than citizens in Alaska, budgets to balance, and equivalent foreign policy experience.

Let's be honest. This is all about getting women to vote for McCain. It's pretty insulting to think the only thing which you need to earn a woman's vote is a pair of x-chromosomes.

What is so Maverick about being a pandering politician?

Posted by: elaine | August 29, 2008 5:20 PM | Report abuse

We shouldn't overlook the fact that no abortions means more Republicans.
That is NOT good news.

Where DID Republicans originally come from anyway?
Flanders?
Belgium?
South Africa?

Oh, sorry, wrong planet.
Let me try again . . . . . .

By the way, Chris, the yawning masses are hardly "stunned" by this choice.
First you have to be awake in order to be stunned.
I don't see anybody looking stunned around here.

Posted by: wardropper | August 29, 2008 5:18 PM | Report abuse

Bad pick.
It shows that McCain thinks American women are stupid. Oh, she's a woman so I'll vote for her? Forget the fact that she is the completely opposite from the issues that support women, children, healthcare and the environment. The "Wolf Killer" is a really bad pick.

Posted by: Joe Fletcher | August 29, 2008 5:16 PM | Report abuse

McCain clearly thinks the Palin pick is the double whammy: he will pick up those crazy Hillary supporters that will vote strictly on the basis of an ovarian presence in the White House and he will solidify the evangelical Christian population, or as McCain called in 2000, "agents of tolerance." To this I say, as Obama said about Iraq, that this pick was a major strategic blunder. Not only has the argument about Obama's inexperience taken a serious blow; I can't wait for Tucker Bounds' carefully worded statements declaring that Obama is possibly the most naive and incompetent person ever while leaving the door open the Palin doesn't fit into his ridiculous argument. He has also picked someone with NO economic experience despite the fact that he admittedly doesn't know the issue as well as she should. Does McCain think she is going to shoot guns, hate abortion, and rape the pristine Alaskan land to fix the economy? A sidenote: there is no way that people should believe Palin is a maverick. She was a mayor of a town of 5000 people! She ran on reform in corrupt Alaska, which is what you should do if you want to win an election. Of course, within 2 years of the governorship, she's being investigated.
The last point is simple: just as you can out-tancredo Tancredo on immigration, you can't out-change Obama. People that have tried this tactic inevitably fail. The only way that McCain could win this election is if he or VP knew anything about the economy paired with the predictable fear/soft on terrorism/ crazy islamofascist card that the GOP attempt every year (POW card added to the mix this year).

This pick is almost as bad as Harriet Myers nomination for the Supreme Court, but Palin is much better looking

Posted by: word | August 29, 2008 5:13 PM | Report abuse

PTA Palin! Wow you have to love putting the PTA experience into the VP announcement speech! Obama and Biden must be quaking in their boots. Who was the real VP pick if Obama chose Clinton. Mitt the Haircut?

To attack Palin Obama/Biden don't have to go for the jugular, that would make them look like bullies. It looked like McCain was introducing his granddaughter rather than his right hand(wo)man. If they want to make hay they will need to concentrate not on Palin the person, but to show that she is in fact not a huge advocate for women or women's issues.

Posted by: Mike | August 29, 2008 5:12 PM | Report abuse

"McCain will raise $100M in the next month"

Especially important- seeing as he's committed to public financing and is stuck with the $84 mil....

"John McCain is very wise. When the debates start Obama's camp cannot point that fact out."

No, the point is McCain can't claim Obama's inexperienced, which is the only thing they've been running on for two months. What are they supposed to run on now? the 72-year old who has been in Washington for 26 years and voted with Bush 95% of the time will be the one best positioned to bring about change in Washington?

I stil think so many people are missing the worst attribute of Palin on the trail: she may look too good. Look at the pics of her standing next to McCain at today's event. He looks like he could be her grandfather for gods sake! It all just serves to remind us how old McCain really is.

Posted by: kreuz_missile | August 29, 2008 5:10 PM | Report abuse

McCain clearly thinks the Palin pick is the double whammy: he will pick up those crazy Hillary supporters that will vote strictly on the basis of an ovarian presence in the White House and he will solidify the evangelical Christian population, or as McCain called in 2000, "agents of tolerance." To this I say, as Obama said about Iraq, that this pick was a major strategic blunder. Not only has the argument about Obama's inexperience taken a serious blow; I can't wait for Tucker Bounds' carefully worded statements declaring that Obama is possibly the most naive and incompetent person ever while leaving the door open the Palin doesn't fit into his ridiculous argument. He has also picked someone with NO economic experience despite the fact that he admittedly doesn't know the issue as well as she should. Does McCain think she is going to shoot guns, hate abortion, and rape the pristine Alaskan land to fix the economy? A sidenote: there is no way that people should believe Palin is a maverick. She was a mayor of a town of 5000 people! She ran on reform in corrupt Alaska, which is what you should do if you want to win an election. Of course, within 2 years of the governorship, she's being investigated.
The last point is simple: just as you can out-tancredo Tancredo on immigration, you can't out-change Obama. People that have tried this tactic inevitably fail. The only way that McCain could win this election is if he or VP knew anything about the economy paired with the predictable fear/soft on terrorism/ crazy islamofascist card that the GOP attempt every year (POW card added to the mix this year).

This pick is almost as bad as Harriet Myers nomination for the Supreme Court, but Palin is much better looking

Posted by: word | August 29, 2008 5:09 PM | Report abuse

Who would want a nobody from a dark corner of the planet (Alaska) with very little domestic experience and nothing of foreign to be the POTUS when the 72 year old-man follows the path we must all (naturally) go? (Remember a heartbeat away?) Meanwhile, a reminder, Cheney is VP now. She will inherit his Power if McCain pulls off the election (if she can find the connections, that is). Abuse of power seems to come naturally to the Repukelicans, if recent experience is any guide. What an idiot, McCain is. As if putting a woman (especially one like that one (Palin--who? what?) and who is diametrically opposed to HRC on every level) on the ticket would get the disgruntled HRC die-hard PUMA ladies....
Even they will see through his marketing manipulation.

Posted by: Donna Martinson | August 29, 2008 5:08 PM | Report abuse

I laughed out loud when I heard the VP pick. As a Hillary supporter, I must admit I did enjoy the pander factor, but just because I have breasts, don't assume I don't have a brain!

By Palin's own admission, she doesn't know what a the job of VP entails. My next question is; does she know how the federal government runs? She actually sounds less (let me repeat that) LESS qualified than George Bush! I didn't think that was possible but then I shouldn't underestimate the ability of Republicans to elevate the least able to high office.

Posted by: lj8677 | August 29, 2008 5:07 PM | Report abuse

McCain clearly thinks the Palin pick is the double whammy: he will pick up those crazy Hillary supporters that will vote strictly on the basis of an ovarian presence in the White House and he will solidify the evangelical Christian population, or as McCain called in 2000, "agents of tolerance." To this I say, as Obama said about Iraq, that this pick was a major strategic blunder. Not only has the argument about Obama's inexperience taken a serious blow; I can't wait for Tucker Bounds' carefully worded statements declaring that Obama is possibly the most naive and incompetent person ever while leaving the door open the Palin doesn't fit into his ridiculous argument. He has also picked someone with NO economic experience despite the fact that he admittedly doesn't know the issue as well as he should. Does McCain think she is going to shoot guns, hate abortion, and rape the pristine Alaskan land to fix the economy? A sidenote: there is no way that people should believe Palin is a maverick. She was a mayor of a town of 5000 people! She ran on reform in corrupt Alaska, which is what you should do if you want to win an election in Alaska. Of course, within 2 years of the governorship, she's being investigated.
The last point is simple: just as you can out-tancredo Tancredo on immigration, you can't out-change Obama. People that have tried this tactic inevitably fail. The only way that McCain could win this election is if he or VP knew anything about the economy paired with the predictable fear/soft on terrorism/ crazy islamofascist card that the GOP attempt every year (POW card added to the mix this year).

This pick is almost as bad as Harriet Myers nomination for the Supreme Court, but Palin is much better looking

Posted by: word | August 29, 2008 5:06 PM | Report abuse

I see the Nob supporters squirming like rats, which they are. They are trapped. For months on, these rats trash talked HRC, looked on in glee as their hero Nob buried HRC under a pile of sex and race cards, and stole the nomination by sidelining MI and FL, and with the help of his prostitute media pals.

Now with the Palin pick, it is ame, set and match Mac. As it was, only half of HRC supporters were in favor of Nob; with this, there is a stronger incentive to outright vote Mac.

It is comeuppance, gutter rats. You scum thought it was fun to trash Bill C as racist, and as Nob compared him to Nixon. Now the Nob is toast.

Posted by: intcamd1 | August 29, 2008 5:05 PM | Report abuse

I am a republican; however, I was shocked to hear that McCain would choose a running mate with no experience. I would’ve been happy with Romney; even Julliani has more experience than her. Palin openly supported Obama’s energy plan has no experience and being as old and decrepit as McCain really is, experience is key…the VP will likely be the POTUS if he strokes out, and who knows where she really stands with minority voters (not illegal immigrants), we need their votes to over power the ObamaDen machine. As a republican I want to support the McPalin ticket, as a responsible citizen I CAN NOT support that move, chances are she’ll be president and with less experience than Obama, I have to be responsible for my vote, and regrettably vote for Obama…I guess I know now how the Democrats felt during the Bush vs. Kerry election.

Posted by: jen | August 29, 2008 5:03 PM | Report abuse

Don't get me wrong. Alaska as a landscape is beautiful. But it is a very strange land. Folks out there are a different breed of people because of remoteness and climate. There are a lot of Alaskan men who abuse Native American women. McCain is off of his rocker.

Posted by: Earl | August 29, 2008 5:01 PM | Report abuse

If this changed your mind into voting for McCain, you are in the minisculest of minorities. Hardly anyone votes for a presidential candidate because of who they're VP is. This only highlights McCain's judgment and lack thereof, as Obama illustrated last night.

Posted by: WPE | August 29, 2008 5:01 PM | Report abuse

If this changed your mind into voting for McCain, you are in the minisculest of minorities. Hardly anyone votes for a presidential candidate because of who they're VP is. This only highlights McCain's judgment and lack thereof, as Obama illustrated last night.

Posted by: WPE | August 29, 2008 5:01 PM | Report abuse

I like Palin. She seems authentic. She will appeal to the socially conservative voters who voted for Hillary. She has more executive experience than either Obama or McCain.

The abortion issue is no longer an issue that is make or break for me. As the years have gone by, I become less and less gun ho on abortion rights.

McCain is taking a risk. He is showing us that his reputation as a maverick is very important to him. And he has made his ticket more youthful and attractive.

My bet is on him this year.

Posted by: Hillary supporter | August 29, 2008 5:00 PM | Report abuse

Great pick. Palin will be our country's first female president in 2012, and it sounds like she will be a great one.

But more importantly, did anyone see the Vogue cover? No way that's not totally photoshopped. She's hot, but a rack like that after five kids, really...

Posted by: McCainObama08-California | August 29, 2008 5:00 PM | Report abuse

"McCain will raise $100M in the next month"

Especially important- seeing as he's committed to public financing and is stuck with the $84 mil....

"John McCain is very wise. When the debates start Obama's camp cannot point that fact out."

No, the point is McCain can't claim Obama's inexperienced, which is the only thing they've been running on for two months. What are they supposed to run on now? the 72-year old who has been in Washington for 26 years and voted with Bush 95% of the time will be the one best positioned to bring about change in Washington?

I stil think so many people are missing the worst attribute of Palin on the trail: she may look too good. Look at the pics of her standing next to McCain at today's event. He looks like he could be her grandfather for gods sake! It all just serves to remind us how old McCain really is.

Posted by: kreuz_missile | August 29, 2008 5:00 PM | Report abuse

Don't get me wrong. Alaska as a landscape is beautiful. But it is a very strange land. Folks out there are a different breed of people because of remoteness and climate. There are a lot of Alaskan men who abuse Native American women. McCain is off of his rocker.

Posted by: Earl | August 29, 2008 5:00 PM | Report abuse

Don't get me wrong. Alaska as a landscape is beautiful. But it is a very strange land. Folks out there are a different breed of people because of remoteness and climate. There are a lot of Alaskan men who abuse Native American women. McCain is off of his rocker.

Posted by: Earl | August 29, 2008 4:59 PM | Report abuse

Say hello to wife number four, or is it five?

"Campaign believes rift caused by Democratic primary gives them an opportunity to pick up votes from disgruntled women."

Most sensible thing I've read from Cillizza in two years.

Posted by: wardropper | August 29, 2008 4:59 PM | Report abuse

McCain just made his first executive decision and FAILED!

The 72 year old, one heartbeat away issue, is now front and center.

Posted by: Vgirl1 | August 29, 2008 4:59 PM | Report abuse

There hasn't been a single thing about any of the candidates thus far that has excited me - until I woke up to this morning to the news that McCain had selected Sarah Palin as his VP pick.

Certainly, there will be questions about Gov. Palin's experience. However, I would say that 2 years as governor produces a much more comprehensive record than 2 years as a junior senator! She has experience leading a government, while Obama's experience comes almost exclusively from campaigning. I'll take Sarah Palin over Barack Obama any day of the week.

I am absolutely thrilled that McCain selected Sarah Palin as his running mate. She brings a much-needed breath of fresh air to this mind-numbingly long presidential campaign.

While I will still be using the next two months to closely evaluate both candidates and their respective running mates as their positions and proposals (hopefully) become more in depth and concrete, I have to say that if the election were held this week, this female independent would be casting a ballot for McCain/Palin.

Excellent choice, John!

Posted by: CC | August 29, 2008 4:58 PM | Report abuse

Why should Palin should be considered ready to take over the presidency?
Her speech said nothing about her foreign policy views - if she has any. We learned practically nothing about domestic issues. She said nothing that spoke directly to the interests of voters of Ohio specifically. It was as if she didn't know how to reach out to people outside her own state.

Heck, we didn't even learn how large the crowd was in Dayton. I wonder if the McCain campaign wanted to keep it that way.


Posted by: Audrey Beck | August 29, 2008 4:58 PM | Report abuse

I laughed out loud when I heard the VP pick. As a Hillary supporter, I must admit I did enjoy the pander factor, but just because I have breasts, don't assume I don't have a brain!

By Palin's own admission, she doesn't know what a the job of VP entails. My next question is; does she know how the federal government runs? She actually sounds less (let me repeat that) LESS qualified than George Bush! I didn't think that was possible but then I shouldn't underestimate the ability of Republicans to elevate the least able to high office.

Posted by: lj8677 | August 29, 2008 4:56 PM | Report abuse

So disappointed in this pick. McCain is now drawing attention to his age. When they campaign together they'll look like Father and Daughter. I've been for him since 2000 and can't believe this. His staff ought to jump ship because this ship ain't going to float past the GOP convention.

Posted by: Fred in SC | August 29, 2008 4:55 PM | Report abuse

Will Hillary voters really be stupid enough to fall for this one?

Yes Palin is a woman, but where is she on women's issues? She is pro-life and therefore unlikely to tap the pro-choice voters who would form a significant bloc of Clinton voters.

Her resume in Alaska is thin.

There are questions surrounding her potential abuse of position whilst in office.

Palin qualified for the job when McCain hangs up his $500 shoes?

Executive experience she may have (both years), but what sort of electoral pedigree does she have?
Elected by 114,697 Republican votes in 2006 compared to Obama: 3,597,456.
Of course she has a smaller state, but if I were a Republican I'd be slightly scared that I have a completely inexperience campaigner thrust into the national spotlight with so many questions hanging over her.

The only reasons I can see for her nomination are that:
(1) She is pro-life and gets the conservative wing of the Republican party off his back
(2) She is a woman, and therefore brings a different dynamic to the race, even if her negatives outweigh her positives.

Joe Biden is a much more powerful advocate for women than Sarah Palin has any claim to be. Darling of the Republican Party she may be, but next Vice President of the United States, she is not.

Posted by: Mike | August 29, 2008 4:54 PM | Report abuse

"McCain will raise $100M in the next month"

Especially important- seeing as he's committed to public financing and is stuck with the $84 mil....

"John McCain is very wise. When the debates start Obama's camp cannot point that fact out."

No, the point is McCain can't claim Obama's inexperienced, which is the only thing they've been running on for two months. What are they supposed to run on now? the 72-year old who has been in Washington for 26 years and voted with Bush 95% of the time will be the one best positioned to bring about change in Washington?

Posted by: kreuz_missile | August 29, 2008 4:54 PM | Report abuse

Why should Palin should be considered ready to take over the presidency?
Her speech said nothing about her foreign policy views - if she has any. We learned practically nothing about domestic issues. She said nothing that spoke directly to the interests of voters of Ohio specifically. It was as if she didn't know how to reach out to people outside her own state.

Heck, we didn't even learn how large the crowd was in Dayton. I wonder if the McCain campaign wanted to keep it that way.

Posted by: Audrey Beck | August 29, 2008 4:50 PM | Report abuse

This pick is pure McCain. Only a maverick who challenges the status quo of his party could pick someone who does that as well. This Woman has twice the experience the Messiah has, she is the only person on both tickets with executive experience, who has to run budgets, make the tough decisions, and challenged the real status quo by breaking through the party establishment that is hurting the Republican Party. What has the messiah actually done for this country when it comes to standing up to his party? You can't be a post-partisan or a uniter if you never stood up to your party on a substantial issue.

Posted by: TexasProud | August 29, 2008 4:50 PM | Report abuse

Desperate choice, my brother in-law and his family reside in Wasilla, and i have visited the town. It is a lovely town but not big at all, so i dont understand how running this small town and being a gov for 18 months makes you a good VP pick. Her state has over 600,000 people and over 3,000,000 voted for Obama for Senator alone.....

Posted by: American First | August 29, 2008 4:49 PM | Report abuse

This choice finally gives the conservative base of the Republican Party something to cheer for. As a conservative professional woman and mother of young kids, I can't tell you what a difference this selection has made for me. It's a 180 degree immediate shift from disengagement to gung-ho support. Her acceptance speech was excellent and my initial impression is that Sen. Biden should not underestimate her. Her courage in rooting out corruption in Republican politics is a huge motivator for me. I believe she will motivate not only conservatives, but also women who are looking for change. She is a one-term governor, but she is the only candidate who has had any executive experience running anything, and although brief, that record has been examined and shown to be very effective. If her job approval ratings are at 80% now.

Posted by: Jennifer J. Miller, Esq. | August 29, 2008 4:49 PM | Report abuse

This pick is pure McCain. Only a maverick who challenges the status quo of his party could pick someone who does that as well. This Woman has twice the experience the Messiah has, she is the only person on both tickets with executive experience, who has to run budgets, make the tough decisions, and challenged the real status quo by breaking through the party establishment that is hurting the Republican Party. What has the messiah actually done for this country when it comes to standing up to his party? You can't be a post-partisan or a uniter if you never stood up to your party on a substantial issue.

Posted by: TexasProud | August 29, 2008 4:48 PM | Report abuse

Oops, the video of Palin's speech was in 2 parts, here they are:

Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMbkFlfRTpQ
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npPJAN5MvJk

Please donate to the McCain campaign. Today is the last day of the "pre-season". Please make an August donation.

Even small amounts add up on the Internet, like the price of lunch! Today, I donated my first chunk to a candidate since Hillary Clinton conceded. I donated to John McCain.

www.johnmccain.com

Posted by: AsperGirl | August 29, 2008 4:46 PM | Report abuse

Joe Biden is a 65 year old Catholic who supports killing babies, ANY TIME before they are born. Barack Obama can't tell us when a baby gets civil rights. As a practical matter, both Democratic candidates are pro death, for babies. Sarah Palin is a mom who protected the life of Trig Palin, a Down's syndrome baby who both of these guys would have killed. I am looking forward to these debates.

Posted by: ERISAMAVEN | August 29, 2008 4:46 PM | Report abuse

"McCain will raise $100M in the next month"

Especially important- seeing as he's committed to public financing and is stuck with the $84 mil....

"John McCain is very wise. When the debates start Obama's camp cannot point that fact out."

No, the point is McCain can't claim Obama's inexperienced, which is the only thing they've been running on for two months. What are they supposed to run on now? the 72-year old who has been in Washington for 26 years and voted with Bush 95% of the time will be the one best positioned to bring about change in Washington?

Posted by: kreuz_missile | August 29, 2008 4:46 PM | Report abuse

Well McCain just lost the election. Women voters don't want to vote for McCain because he is an adulterer. In 2000, he was at a minimum getting ready to cheat on Cindy and his advisors had to reign him in yet again. Do your homework!

Posted by: ladyliza | August 29, 2008 4:46 PM | Report abuse

Why should Palin should be considered ready to take over the presidency?
Her speech said nothing about her foreign policy views - if she has any. We learned practically nothing about domestic issues. She said nothing that spoke directly to the interests of voters of Ohio specifically. It was as if she didn't know how to reach out to people outside her own state.

Heck, we didn't even learn how large the crowd was in Dayton. I wonder if the McCain campaign wanted to keep it that way.

Posted by: Audrey Beck | August 29, 2008 4:46 PM | Report abuse

AsperGirl is one of those mccain stooges representing "her"self as a disgruntled Hillary supporter.

Geez, she's not even trying to hide it anymore.

Hey Aspergirl, tell your bosses that there are a lot of us out here that used to feel a great deal of respect for McCain, the man he was in 2000 anyway. I'd vote for that guy in second, but now he's just another stinking republican.

Posted by: ex | August 29, 2008 4:45 PM | Report abuse

Joe Biden is a 65 year old Catholic who supports killing babies, ANY TIME before they are born. Barack Obama can't tell us when a baby gets civil rights. As a practical matter, both Democratic candidates are pro death, for babies. Sarah Palin is a mom who protected the life of Trig Palin, a Down's syndrome baby who both of these guys would have killed. I am looking forward to these debates.

Posted by: ERISAMAVEN | August 29, 2008 4:45 PM | Report abuse

This is no nightmare, because this woman pales in comparison to Hilary Clinton. Only dumb Hilary supporters would follow this this woman like lemmings over a cliff. She's an insult to Hilary. She's also under investigation in her own state for abuse of power---sound familiar?! She fits in well with low information, dumb Republican men and women.

Posted by: Inquisitor | August 29, 2008 4:44 PM | Report abuse


Hahahahahahahaha! ROFL! LMAO! Boy, that PTA experience that she LISTS AS PART OF HER POLITICAL EXPERIENCE sure will come in handy if, God forbid, she ever has to deal with Putin or Medvedev.

Nearly half the country is Republican and more than half of us are women. This is the best they could do? This is supposed to appeal to us women voters how, exactly?

Posted by: A Woman Voter | August 29, 2008 4:44 PM | Report abuse

Well McCain just lost the election. Women voters don't want to vote for McCain because he is an adulterer. In 2000, he was at a minimum getting ready to cheat on Cindy and his advisors had to reign him in yet again. Do your homework!

Posted by: ladyliza | August 29, 2008 4:44 PM | Report abuse

At the very least a very interesting and gutsy pick! What impact it will have on the election who knows?

I do think she spoke impressively today.

Perhaps we should try and get a real feel for who she is though before we jump to any conclusions.

It's amazing isn't it, at how many 'experts' there are on her already!
(especially when most are hearing about her for the first time!)

Posted by: gdgca | August 29, 2008 4:43 PM | Report abuse

She was a "beauty queen." What's the reaction when the photos surface?

Posted by: Enquirer | August 29, 2008 4:43 PM | Report abuse

Here is what Palin said about Hillary during the Dem Primaries:

During a Newsweek Women & Leadership Event in Los Angeles last March, Sarah Palin said this about Hillary Clinton:

I say this with all due respect to Hillary Clinton…but when I hear a statement like that coming from a woman candidate with any kind of perceived whine about that excess criticism or you know maybe a sharper microscope put on her, I think you know that doesn’t do us any good – women in politics, women in general wanting to progress this country.

Posted by: King Kong | August 29, 2008 4:43 PM | Report abuse

...you gotta be kidding.

Why not Cindy Sheehan? Why not...Hillary herself?

Even if you're going to hand the VP nomination to a Republican woman to exploit the Hillary issue, this is the best that he could do? Jesus f-ing christ is this what American presidential politics have come down to? Two US Senators pretending to be washington outsiders, two women -one a US senator, the other a state govenor- pretending to be hampered by a glass ceiling?

So apparently they are all entitled to the White House because they are Washington outsiders, "mavericks", "agents of change" and women?

I guess they're going to just walk into D.C., take the Senate and House by the horns, whip 'em into shape and get the US economy up and roaring like a steam-engine! Somehow doing a better job of it than GW has done, over the past 8 years, all while being a serious contrarian and having the whole Republican party under his thumb. These guys are going to go *against* the Establishment and accomplish something?

All that McCain is doing is saying that that he will be a political eunuch in D.C. and that his VP will have even less experience and even less support on the Hill than he does right now. Obama has the outsider card sewn-up but at least he can count on the support of his party, which, by the way, has a growing majority in Congress this election.

Posted by: jfc1 | August 29, 2008 4:43 PM | Report abuse

As some one said, on the McCain/Palin ticket, the experienced senator is runningfor the president, while the less experienced has the potenial and leadership, and will learn and grow in the role.

On the Nobama/Bidos ticket, the clueless and sex/race master is running for the president, while the more experienced guy is there to carry the jock straps.

Hmm.. and the Nob supporting gutter rats think that it is McCain who made the mistake?!

But it is not as if some one accused the groupie gutter rats of having any sense and brains, anyway.

Posted by: intcamd1 | August 29, 2008 4:43 PM | Report abuse

This is no nightmare, because this woman pales in comparison to Hilary Clinton. Only dumb Hilary supports would support this woman. She's an insult to Hilary. She's also under investigation in her own state for abuse of power---sound familiar?! She fits in well with low information dumb Republicans.

Posted by: Inquisitor | August 29, 2008 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Disgruntled Women -- That was by the Rolling Stones, right?

Posted by: Mike Licht | August 29, 2008 4:42 PM | Report abuse

If something happens to McCain, is this person ready to lead???? She has been governor of Alaska for all of two years, but she does have the AMAZING experience of being the mayor of Wasilla, with a population of just over 5,000 people! WOW! More people live in my backyard by a factor of 4.5 X than in her entire state! McCain is absolutely pandering to the female vote, and not thinking of what is in the best interest of this country.

This is insane - congratulations John!!!!!!

FYI - Alaska Total Population (2006 estimate) = 670,053

Posted by: Mike in Denver | August 29, 2008 4:41 PM | Report abuse

This choice finally gives the conservative base of the Republican Party something to cheer for. As a conservative professional woman and mother of young kids, I can't tell you what a difference this selection has made for me. It's a 180 degree immediate shift from disengagement to gung-ho support. Her acceptance speech was excellent and my initial impression is that Sen. Biden should not underestimate her. Her courage in rooting out corruption in Republican politics is a huge motivator for me. I believe she will motivate not only conservatives, but also women who are looking for change. She is a one-term governor, but she is the only candidate who has had any executive experience running anything, and although brief, that record has been examined and shown to be very effective. If her job approval ratings are at 80% now.

Posted by: Jennifer J. Miller, Esq. | August 29, 2008 4:39 PM | Report abuse

Cry democrats,cry.Go and begg Hillary to help you!Howard Dean and the hacks like Donna Brazile have managed to hand over the presidency to republicans-again-in a platter.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 4:39 PM | Report abuse

Whoever thinks that women who support Hillary will vote for McCain just because Palin is a women, no matter how different she is on the issues, is just insulting women and MUST be a man. No woman, no matter Dem or Rep is so stupid to think that.

Posted by: michele | August 29, 2008 4:39 PM | Report abuse

What a gift to Obama! With this choice McCain just handed hm the Presidency. Palin is anti-choice (that's going to bring in the Hillary hold-outs?), she has less than two years of holding a state-wide office and before that was mayor of a tiny town. Compare that with Joe Biden who brings a wealth of experience to share with Biden. If this is an example of McCain's judgment, let the buyer beware!

Posted by: Jude | August 29, 2008 4:39 PM | Report abuse

I see a whole bunch of Nobaba (Nob) groupie gutter rats that claim they are Hillary supporters (some of them say they are women) and insulted by the Palin choice.

You gutter rats are so pathetic. None of you are HRC supporters. You roaches are sooo transparent. You are Nob's koolaid drinking gutter rats, that's what you are, and will always be.

If you are truly HRC supporters, I challenge you to write some nice things about HRC< how the slimy Nob campaign used race and sex cards to steal the nomination, and then say you are still insulted by the Palin pick.

You see Nob's gutter rats, most HRC supporters are revolted by the disgusting tactics of Nob, the dirty role played by the media prostitutes in stealing the nomination, and the shameful way in which Pres CLinton and Sen CLinton were trashed. You gutter rats have no understanding of that depth of that feeling.

So, merely saying you are a Clinton supporter and are insulted by Palin pick is n't going to convince any one. It just makes you a liar, as your hero Nob already is, in addition to being scum eating gutter rats.

Posted by: intcamd1 | August 29, 2008 4:39 PM | Report abuse

Scrivner-
"Rabid feministas" are generally pro-choice.

A woman or the right woman. That is the question.

Posted by: Mason | August 29, 2008 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Hey Guys, Its me...Johnny Edwards, remember?

I am sooooooo proud of my Party for nominating a woman. Yes I wish it was me, but maybe next time, unless there's a black woman on the ballot. I guess I'll have to up my speaking fees for my poverty lectures to pay child support ---- er I mean my campaign worker's child support.
You know how it is. Baby-momma and all that.

OK everybody....God Bless America, and until 2012, make sure you come out and see me on the Duke/University Of Illinios/Harvard Poverty Lecture Tour....Bon Jovi and John Cougar are my warm-up act!!!

Peace in the Mid-east,

John "Humble" Edwards

P.S. to my man Obama - When you get that new Govt. health plan worked out, see if you can delay that cancer cure a little bit for me , OK Bro?

Posted by: Chasing Ambulances in my Illegal Briefs | August 29, 2008 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Some Republicans are so stupid that they are actually excited about McCain's pick of Palin! It's the equivalent of Barack Obama picking a teenage girl as his running mate.

Posted by: miknugget | August 29, 2008 4:38 PM | Report abuse

When the Beauty Pageant contestant was asked why so many republican's cannot locate the US on a map she replied....." I personally believe that US Americans are unable to do so because, uh,
some... people out there in out nation don't have maps, and, uh, i believe
that our education like such as South Africa and, uh, the Iraq everywhere
like,such as and ... I believe that they should, our education over here in
the US should help the US, er, should help South Africa and should help the
Iraq and the Asian countries, so we will be able to build up a future for
our children."

Posted by: McInsane | August 29, 2008 4:38 PM | Report abuse

What a novel idea: The Crypt Keeper has chosen the Bride of Frankenstein as his running mate.

How positively droll.

Posted by: MsThing | August 29, 2008 4:37 PM | Report abuse

McCain just made his first executive decision and FAILED:

McCain/Palin: More of the same! It's a shame!

That 72 year old, "Only a HEARTBEAT AWAY" issue, just moved FRONT and Center!

Posted by: Vgirl1 | August 29, 2008 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Wow. He absolutely blew it ... what a blunder. Has he lost his mind?

Is she the only woman he knows to pander women voters?

There is no PLUS to her selection; she however has tons of negatives. As an ardent anti-abortion, she can’t appeal to Hillary women. As a part-time small town (Population of 9K) mayor two years ago, she lacks any meaningful experience. With her lack of experience, McCain can no longer attack Obama on experience and all the money McCain spent on attacking Obama’s experience is now waste. With this selection, John McCain not only weaken his position, but has in fact helped his opponent by given Obama a free “get-out-of-jail” ticket, sort of speak, with respect to inexperience. In fact, this choice might be yet another example that he is out of touch.

Elections are won and lost from the middle. She can’t contribute to that end; she is far, far right ideologue from Alaska where half of GOP officials are either in jail or indicted.

Moreover, with McCain’s age, it is way too risky that she is potentially one heartbeat away from the presidency.

Finally, the choice of running mate is the first important decision that candidate makes. It shows the judgment of the candidate. McCain blew it this one—big time. If this is an indicative of his decision-making skills, he miserably failed.

Posted by: Dude, where is your brain??? | August 29, 2008 4:36 PM | Report abuse

What all of you aren't looking at is the reality:

Over 50% of women are undecided. They don't care about how long someone has been in office. They care about relating to someone who is like them. Who will make real changes.

Obama means nothing to women. He does mean something to CHANGE. He's African-American and young and handsome. But he still does nothing for the average woman.

McCain figured it out. He selected an average woman to put into office and yes, I firmly believe she could continue on should something happen to McCain. I can see PAST McCain to Palin. YAAAAAAAHOOOOO!!!!

I just commented that unless you have a billion dollars and am in congress, you cannot get elected president. Thank you McCain for proving me wrong. I will vote for McCain. Because, I hope eventually Palin does become President. JMO.

Posted by: susan in denver | August 29, 2008 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Game over!!!!!!!!!

McCain will raise $100M in the next month.

Good luck in '12 Hillary. You will need it (again).

BTW - Looking foward to Biden crowing over his assault weapons ban to a female NRA life member. LOVE IT!!!!

Posted by: Thomas Mead | August 29, 2008 4:33 PM | Report abuse

Watch Governor Sarah Palin's VP speech today:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMbkFlfRTpQ

What a great speech!

>>Anonymous wrote: "She is going to get laughed out of the room if she tries to discuss anything of substance "

And this is what will infuriate former Clinton supporters and get McCain elected. Because Palin is much more substantial than Obama.

Posted by: AsperGirl | August 29, 2008 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Many people seem to be looking at the Palin nod as a ploy to attract female voters. Perhaps so.

More importantly, though, Palin is a pick who appeals to Republicans. Through the entire primary season and even up until a day ago, Republicans were not excited about their presidential options. None of the candidates really wowed anyone enough to fan excitement, and so McCain won by default, a choice that has irked Republicans more than satisfied them ever since.

Even among VP options, none of the prominent names seemed to excite. Lieberman would have sent Republicans scurrying. Ridge? Eh. Pawlenty? Maybe. Romney? Conservatives already saw him in the primaries and were underwhelmed.

Yes, there are risks and unknowns with Palin, but she immediately grabs attention, and Republicans are actually excited about their ticket for the first time this election cycle. Whether buyer's remorse will set in a couple months from now remains to be seen, but for now this is a stunningly smart pick for Republicans.

Posted by: blert | August 29, 2008 4:32 PM | Report abuse

JK---
You are an idiot! You are saying that Obama is not qualified to be POTUS, yet Palin IS????
YOU ARE AN IDIOT and the reason that women are still second class citizens!!!!

Posted by: JK is an idiot | August 29, 2008 4:31 PM | Report abuse

Wow. He absolutely blew it ... what a blunder. Has he lost his mind?

Is she the only woman he knows to pander women voters?

There is no PLUS to her selection; she however has tons of negatives. As an ardent anti-abortion, she can’t appeal to Hillary women. As a part-time small town (Population of 9K) mayor two years ago, she lacks any meaningful experience. With her lack of experience, McCain can no longer attack Obama on experience and all the money McCain spent on attacking Obama’s experience is now waste. With this selection, John McCain not only weaken his position, but has in fact helped his opponent by given Obama a free “get-out-of-jail” ticket, sort of speak, with respect to inexperience. In fact, this choice might be yet another example that he is out of touch.

Moreover, with McCain’s age, it is way too risky that she is potentially one heartbeat away from the presidency.

Finally, the choice of running mate is the first important decision that candidate makes. It shows the judgment of the candidate. McCain blew it this one—big time. If this is an indicative of his decision-making skills, he miserably failed.

Posted by: He Blew it.... | August 29, 2008 4:31 PM | Report abuse

McPAIN

Posted by: washington | August 29, 2008 4:30 PM | Report abuse

This is unequivocally a crass & cynical move on Grandpa's part to lure the by now mythical angry woman voter. She brings zilch qualifications re: economics, foreign affairs, national experience. Remove her genitalia & any other signs of her being a woman, and she wouldn't even show up on a Z-List for VP. On the stump & in the debate with Biden, she'll be at least as bad as Quayle & perhaps even compete with General Stockdale for the VP Debate Incompetence Award!

Posted by: Bob in CT | August 29, 2008 4:30 PM | Report abuse

Ok, we Fixator's are supposed to be a step ahead of the public with regards to things politic.

So, McCain has made his choice as VP. It is what it is.

Next: Who's McCain going to pick for his cabinet?

Posted by: NoOneImportant | August 29, 2008 4:30 PM | Report abuse

Cry democrats,cry.Go and begg Hillary to help you!Howard Dean and the hacks like Donna Brazile has managed to hand over the presidency to republicans-again-in a platter.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 4:29 PM | Report abuse

Many people seem to be looking at the Palin nod as a ploy to attract female voters. Perhaps so.

More importantly, though, Palin is a pick who appeals to Republicans. Through the entire primary season and even up until a day ago, Republicans were not excited about their presidential options. None of the candidates really wowed anyone enough to fan excitement, and so McCain won by default, a choice that has irked Republicans more than satisfied them ever since.

Even among VP options, none of the prominent names seemed to excite. Lieberman would have sent Republicans scurrying. Ridge? Eh. Pawlenty? Maybe. Romney? Conservatives already saw him in the primaries and were underwhelmed.

Yes, there are risks and unknowns with Palin, but she immediately grabs attention, and Republicans are actually excited about their ticket for the first time this election cycle. Whether buyer's remorse will set in a couple months from now remains to be seen, but for now this is a stunningly smart pick for Republicans.

Posted by: blert | August 29, 2008 4:28 PM | Report abuse

I’m just SHOCKED at the disregard that John McCain has for the future of the United States in picking Sarah Palin.

How dare McCain propose to the American people that this unknown, untested woman is suited to be president of the United States?

That’s what it boils down to. That’s the crux of the matter.

This woman would be a heartbeat away from the presidency – and that’s a 72-year-old heart, let us not forget. Next year, 73, then 74, then 75 …

The risk is astoundingly high. The reward to the nation would be nominal if, God forbid, Palin served four years as VP. Evidently he believes Palin will boost his chances for election. That is nothing but cynical and shortsighted when contrasted with the very real possibility that this woman will become the president of the United States.

Now there’s a chance she could be the best president ever. Key word – CHANCE. She is untested! She is unknown! She has ZERO national or international experience! It is absolutely shocking in its disregard – contempt, even -- for the country.

We can only hope that the American people recognize the immense risk in this selection and McCain’s shockingly poor judgment and vision.

Posted by: AdvRider | August 29, 2008 4:28 PM | Report abuse

I feel like I woke up on another planet. Does it seem to anybody else that people who are describing Palin as a "magnificient" pick are reaching way too hard? What was McCain thinking? What was Palin thinking? Haven't they ever heard of Dan Quayle?

If this is McCain's idea of a good decision, we can't have him in the White House.

Posted by: And2rew | August 29, 2008 4:28 PM | Report abuse

All the Democratic attack DOGS are out in force bashing Palin all over the Blogs ..... they aren't doing Obama any good and they obviously haven't bothered to watch her presentation this morning. She may be the most impressive of all four running for Preident and Vice President.

Hopefully Obama unlike the DOGS takes Palin seriously or he will suffer for not doing so.

Posted by: AH2 | August 29, 2008 4:28 PM | Report abuse

Many posters here miss the point.

Yes, it's a blatant pander to Hillary supporters.

And yes, most Hillary supporters wouldn't think of supporting McCain/Palin.

But there are a few million rabid feministas who will vote according to plumbing.

That, when combined with the votes of those who think Obama lacks the experience and the humility to be POTUS, could be enough to make a difference. Maybe, THE difference, when you count in the built-in "advantage" of electronic voting.

PALIN VP SHOCKER: Will Scorned "Hillarians" Turn to GOP "Hot Mamma?

http://www.nowpublic.com/world/palin-vp-shocker-will-scorned-hillarians-turn-hot-gop-mamma-get-political-w-vic-livingston

Posted by: scrivener | August 29, 2008 4:25 PM | Report abuse

This choice motivates the conservative base of the Republican Party. As a conservative professional woman and mother of young kids, I can't tell you what a difference this selection has made for me. It's a 180 degree immediate shift from disengagement to gung-ho support. Her acceptance speech was excellent and my initial impression is that Sen. Biden should not underestimate her. Her courage in rooting out corruption in Republican politics is a huge motivator for me. I believe she will motivate not only conservatives, but also women who are looking for change. She is a one-term governor, but she is the only candidate who has had any executive experience running anything, and although brief, that record can be examined for effectiveness.

Posted by: Jennifer J. Miller, Esq. | August 29, 2008 4:25 PM | Report abuse

>>Anonymous wrote: "She is going to get laughed out of the room if she tries to discuss anything of substance "

And this is what will infuriate former Clinton supporters and get McCain elected. Because Palin is much more substantial than Obama.

Posted by: AsperGirl | August 29, 2008 4:25 PM | Report abuse

It is no surprise. I'm sure that if Hillary
was the Democratic nominee, John would have chosen a black man.

Posted by: ash | August 29, 2008 4:24 PM | Report abuse

Not sure whether this was the best choice Republicans could have had as they are failing their own main argument against Obama by this. In addition, it seemed as if the only way the Dems will unite was by having a woman VP for McCain. Make no mistake, its not because the women failed to get the nomination, the high drama in the Democratic Party. Its because Hillary failed to get the nomination. So the reluctance from Hillary to pacify the genuinely concerned ones (barring those who are against Obama for other reasons and hide behind this reason). Consider this, if Hillary really wanted, a face to face confrontation to reason with a set of protesters outside the convention would have achieved that. Now that is what may be going to happen. Hillary and Bill were reluctantly supporting Obama with the hope for that historic first woman president to be either Hillary or Chelsea. With that in doubt in a defeat of Obama now, be sure they are now going to unite the party.

So in a way this is a net result of 3 electoral vote loss for Mccain. Ensuring Alaska which otherwise would have possibly been in play while losing Arkansas, which Bill will now deliver to Obama.


Posted by: Neutral As It Takes | August 29, 2008 4:24 PM | Report abuse

I think John McCain knows that Sarah Polin is too inexperienced for the Vice Presidency, but she should get it because, well, he was a POW.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 4:24 PM | Report abuse

OMG, a heterosexual, married, middle class, business owning, white female. The outrage!!!!

How dare McCain not pick yet another Senator, to prove he's for change like Same Old Obama, the Left Wing Limousine Liberal Leftover from the 1960's.

We really need more Ivy League types in government. Why couldn't he pick a hedge fund Daddy insider like Clinton or Biden?

Next thing you'll be hearing is she knows where her food comes from, has never been to Whole Foods, and doesn't drive a SmartCar, like the other 295 million Americans.

She might have even shopped at WalMart.

The horror.

Posted by: Middle Class Middle America | August 29, 2008 4:22 PM | Report abuse

This choice motivates the conservative base of the Republican Party. As a conservative professional woman and mother of young kids, I can't tell you what a difference this selection has made for me. It's a 180 degree immediate shift from disengagement to gung-ho support. Her acceptance speech was excellent and my initial impression is that Sen. Biden should not underestimate her. Her courage in rooting out corruption in Republican politics is a huge motivator for me. I believe she will motivate not only conservatives, but also women who are looking for change. She is a one-term governor, but she is the only candidate who has had any executive experience running anything, and although brief, that record can be examined for effectiveness.

Posted by: Jennifer J. Miller, Esq. | August 29, 2008 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Ok, we Fixator's are supposed to be a step ahead of the public with regards to things politic.

So, McCain has made his choice as VP. It is what it is.

Next: Who's McCain going to pick for his cabinet?

Posted by: NoOneImportant | August 29, 2008 4:19 PM | Report abuse

The Palin choice reads like a bad Hollywood sequel to "Mr. Deeds Goes to Washington." Her experience in government is largely limited to one small town. Very curious that a candidate with repeated health problems picks somebody with little relevant experience. And that was with the possibility of selecting either Susan Collins or Olympia Snow, both Republican Senators with extensive and impressive credentials.

Posted by: texun | August 29, 2008 4:18 PM | Report abuse

JK...you are either 12 years old, an idiot, both, or a liar. Easy to go from progressive Hillary to creationism moose hunter...just because they are both women. You can't be real. And if you are, you are a little spiteful and probably a dab racist for your own good. Good luck with that!

Posted by: Jake | August 29, 2008 4:17 PM | Report abuse

If something happens to McCain, is this person ready to lead???? She has been governor of Alaska for all of two years, but she does have the AMAZING experience of being the mayor of Wasilla, with a population of just over 5,000 people! WOW! More people live in my backyard by a factor of 4.5 X than in her entire state! McCain is absolutely pandering to the female vote, and not thinking of what is in the best interest of this country.

This is insane - congratulations John!!!!!!

FYI - Alaska Total Population (2006 estimate) = 670,053

Posted by: FreeRange | August 29, 2008 4:14 PM | Report abuse

After the novelty of this pick dissipates, I don't think this will look like a smart choice.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 4:13 PM | Report abuse

hey, chris. just a small heads up on a common grammatical error: the correct phrase is "home in" not "hone in"

Posted by: johndog | August 29, 2008 4:12 PM | Report abuse

I heard on WTOP radio today that she is anti-choice, supports drilling in ANWAR, and once sued the federal government for putting polar bears on the endangered list. If this is all true, McCain and the media must be complete morons if they think disgruntled HRC supporters would vote for him because of this VP pick. This disgruntled HRC supporter is extremely offended by that. You obviously think we're all shallow idiots.

Posted by: Rosepetals64 | August 29, 2008 4:12 PM | Report abuse

PLEASE a donation to the McCain campaign in support of his pick of Sarah Palin.

THIS IS THE LAST DAY TO DONATE BEFORE THE FALL GENERAL ELECTION FUND PERIOD STARTS.

www.johnmccain.com

Posted by: AsperGirl | August 29, 2008 4:12 PM | Report abuse

Anti-Palin Alaskan Democrats are reporting that Alaskan game wardens shot wolf cubs from overpopulated packs that were killing moose.

This is an outrage. Obama and Biden clearly state that they should be pulled three quarters from the womb and have their brains sucked out.

If partial birth abortion is good enough for human babies, it should be good enough for wolves.

Posted by: Nair All | August 29, 2008 4:11 PM | Report abuse

No matter what they say, this is still the guy they have as their candidate. A coward who records as we speak are being obtained from the Vietnamese government along with the propaganda tapes Mccain made for the enemy. This has been a long time coming.

JOHN MCCAIN, TRAITOR TO HIS COUNTRY, COLLABORATOR WITH THE ENEMY, MILITARY DISGRACE.

Ted Sampley, a Vietnam Veteran and former Green Beret, issued a CHALLENGE to John McCain "If you can show us that the information presented in our mailer is untruthful . . . we will Stand Down" This CHALLENGE was issued during an interview with INSIDE EDITION on January 17, 2008.
John, family members of Vietnam POW/MIA(s) have been waiting for more then 14 years for you to have the courage to face them eye to eye in front of the American Public - Here is your opportunity for some "STRAIGHT TALK." Stop hiding behind your fabricated "War Hero" persona. You know we can prove your collaborations with declassified government documents . . . It is time for the American people to get to know the REAL John McCain - the John McCain that the POW/MIA families witnessed during the 1991-93 US Senate Select Committee on POW/MIA Affairs .
Bring It On John! HERE IS OUR NUMBER 252-527-0442

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 4:11 PM | Report abuse

I think that Sarah Palin is an absolutely perfect choice as John McCain's running mate.

But, then again, I'm a Democrat.

Posted by: William Madden | August 29, 2008 4:10 PM | Report abuse

"hillary supporters hate obama and they will hand this electon to mccain...."


I'm curious. What do people expect to accomplish with this?

Posted by: DDAWD | August 29, 2008 4:10 PM | Report abuse

to the hillarites stating how they are going to vote for McCain now so they can vote for Hillary in 2012 - If Obama loses and it's your fault, I'll remember that you cost Obama the election. And I won't vote for Hillary in 2012 because you did that.

This I'm being petulant when I say this?

Really?

Posted by: ex | August 29, 2008 4:09 PM | Report abuse

>>G wrote: "As an Obama supporter all I can say is,"
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA"
*deep breath*
"HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA"

***********

Thanks for identifying yourself. For a minute, I thought it was Hillary Clinton, rolling around on her living room carpet out in New York, laughing at Obama.

Posted by: AsperGirl | August 29, 2008 4:06 PM | Report abuse

I don;t know much about Sarah Palin, other than the obvious reports: an elected governor from Alaska. I found a good profile on http://weblog.signonsandiego.com/weblogs/afb/archives/027011.html

She appears to have a strong reputation for ethics and transparency in government business transactions. Alaska might be susceptible to tapping the public trust, since oil revenues are plentiful. For instance, read about Senator Ted Stevens, who is under investigation at http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2003822405_stevensalaska05m.html

But regardless of how others might feel about McCain, I think his VP choice is smart. It presents a balanced choice, like so: McCain vs. Biden (two older, experienced Senators) and Palin vs. Obama (two youngsters, and minority representatives).

However, for all of my admiration of anyone willing to endure a national election, I predict Obama-Biden will win by landslide. As Hillary said, "Barrack Obama is my candidate".

Posted by: Richard | August 29, 2008 4:03 PM | Report abuse

Given the importance of the "bimbo" demographic to advertisers, do not expect anything but ubiquitous pandering from the media punditocracy regarding Mrs. Palin. That said, the selection of Mrs. Pulin as Mr. McCain's running mate reeks of desperation!

Posted by: David G. Ward | August 29, 2008 4:00 PM | Report abuse

Ha ha ha! Yeah, it's better than having the most unqualified President candidate in modern history. Don't ya think, munchkin?

Posted by: Obama + Biden + Hat = A loquacious rabbit | August 29, 2008 1:42 PM


what experience did Bush really have? 6 years of governor? well really 4 years of governor with the last two years spent running for positive.. plus most of the power for the tx governorship is with the lt. gov and the commissors of public works etc.... then you elect a guy that could barely beat mccain and had to go truly negative by spreading rumors that mccain fathered a black baby and that he was unstable.... mcCain may have been decent 8 years ago but when he starting becoming a bush clone he lost any creditable.... vote for change for the better.. vote obama.. i think alot of people are too stupid or fear things becoming better... american deserves better then what the republicans have given us.... its a shame we have such a dumbed down society in this country if more people read, thought about things, and not believe what fat old white man yelled on the radio each day... they gop would never have a chance.... john lennon said it best "living is easy with your eyes closed" and that is what the gop thrives on.. dumb ass middle class americans that vote against their own self interest and vote for the GOP....

hats off to obama for one of the best speeches i've ever heard last night... and he did a great job pointing out failures and fallacies in mccain and gop logic and views!

Posted by: mark | August 29, 2008 3:59 PM | Report abuse

Ha ha ha! Yeah, it's better than having the most unqualified President candidate in modern history. Don't ya think, munchkin?

Posted by: Obama + Biden + Hat = A loquacious rabbit | August 29, 2008 1:42 PM


what experience did Bush really have? 6 years of governor? well really 4 years of governor with the last two years spent running for positive.. plus most of the power for the tx governorship is with the lt. gov and the commissors of public works etc.... then you elect a guy that could barely beat mccain and had to go truly negative by spreading rumors that mccain fathered a black baby and that he was unstable.... mcCain may have been decent 8 years ago but when he starting becoming a bush clone he lost any creditable.... vote for change for the better.. vote obama.. i think alot of people are too stupid or fear things becoming better... american deserves better then what the republicans have given us.... its a shame we have such a dumbed down society in this country if more people read, thought about things, and not believe what fat old white man yelled on the radio each day... they gop would never have a chance.... john lennon said it best "living is easy with your eyes closed" and that is what the gop thrives on.. dumb ass middle class americans that vote against their own self interest and vote for the GOP....

hats off to obama for one of the best speeches i've ever heard last night... and he did a great job pointing out failures and fallacies in mccain and gop logic and views!

Posted by: mark | August 29, 2008 3:54 PM | Report abuse

Um, let's see what we have here. A person with less than two years experience as a Governor of Alaska. A former runner up in a beauty contest, a drug user, under investigation for ethics abuse, no knowledge of foreign or national domestic affairs. Yep, sounds like the most qualified Republican anybody could find. McCain has just handed the Democrats the White House on a silver platter. Why bother having the debates? This election is over in a landslide.

Posted by: C. Price | August 29, 2008 3:54 PM | Report abuse

A FEMALE DAN QUAYLE

Posted by: BIL | August 29, 2008 3:51 PM | Report abuse

It has taken the Republican Party twenty years to go were the Democratic Party has already been! The Democratic Party selected Geraldine Ferraro in 1984.

Posted by: Lydia, Durham, NC | August 29, 2008 3:50 PM | Report abuse

I am a disgruntled Hillary supporter, and a staunch moderate Democrat. After hearing Obama's speech I flirted with the idea, could I vote for him, knowing how he disrespected Bill and Hillary, how Howard Dean backhanded him the nomination? I almost took down my McCain yard signs, picking Governor Palin, kept me in McCain's column, the yard signs are staying put. McCain/Palin 2008, a ticket moderates can accept.
BLUE VOTER, VOTING RED.

Posted by: Victor Flores | August 29, 2008 3:48 PM | Report abuse

Nice try, McCain. In the long run, this choice will look definitive of the desparation and cynical politics of McCain. Obama will actually use Biden for ADVICE. What will McCain use Palin for except some sick attempt to convince Hillary supporters vote for him just because he has a woman on the ticket? These two ladies are fundamentally OPPOSITE. Its demeaning to me.

Posted by: annette | August 29, 2008 3:47 PM | Report abuse

She is going to get laughed out of the room if she tries to discuss anything of substance (e.g. military, climate change, or health care). No matter what your politics, it is an insult that this woman could actually become president or even sit at a table with Joe Biden. As a young woman who majored in political science and worked on a few national campaigns, I'm pretty sure I'm just as qualified to be VP. Though I should not underestimate the great powers granted to the mayor of Wassila.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 3:45 PM | Report abuse

I think it's a little clueless of the Republicans to think that Hillary supporters will support any woman......that we are all interchangeable. Not so.
We might have voted for another progressive woman, but Sarah Palin is not progressive.
Hillary supporters supported Hillary and the policies that she supported, including pro-choice for women. Hillary would never want her legacy to be the overturning of Roe v. Wade which is what will happen if McCain/Palin are elected.

Posted by: Her | August 29, 2008 3:43 PM | Report abuse

Oh my goodness... I am just beside myself.. what a great election cycle this is turning out to be... Masterful choice by McCain... what a hoot... just when Obama thought that he had it in the bag..... man oh man.. this is going to be so much fun this fall.. can't wait.. I feel really sorry for Senator Clinton though.. that twit Obama should have choosen her as a VP.. and he will lose NOT because of his skin color.. but because of his choice of VP.. Man oh man what fun is this?

Posted by: averagenewyorker | August 29, 2008 3:43 PM | Report abuse

Romney & Huckabee should be pizzed & insulted!

I thought the headlines were joking...I'm still laughing.

Posted by: Maryland | August 29, 2008 3:43 PM | Report abuse

Seems like a pure defensive play: Palin will secure the Mountain states and social-conservative South--simple electoral math.

But the McCain campaign just blunted their biggest line of attack against Obama. Does this mean they were for experience before they were against it?

Posted by: Aww Man | August 29, 2008 3:42 PM | Report abuse

There is a great shot of Cindy McShame looking down at the floor with both families behind the canidates. You know she's thinking 'I wonder how much money she has? How do I make sure that they are not left alone?'

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 3:42 PM | Report abuse

She's a CREATIONIST. How stupid can you get? Even McCain knows better than that.

Posted by: Luke | August 29, 2008 3:40 PM | Report abuse

Oh my goodness... I am just beside myself.. what a great election cycle this is turning out to be... Masterful choice by McCain... what a hoot... just when Obama thought that he had it in the bag..... man oh man.. this is going to be so much fun this fall.. can't wait.. I feel really sorry for Senator Clinton though.. that twit Obama should have choosen her as a VP.. and he will lose NOT because of his skin color.. but because of his choice of VP.. Man oh man what fun is this?

Posted by: averagenewyorker | August 29, 2008 3:40 PM | Report abuse

As a fiscally conservative, socially liberal voter, I rarely have a candidate I can fully support. Unlike many of your posters, neither do I have the luxury of ranting and calling the other side names because I am usually the "other side" as well.
While I see the Palin selection as a strategic one for McCain, I cannot see Palin as a sufficient choice, as say Romney might have been, to encourage my voting for their ticket. However much I'd like to see the glass ceiling broken, I cannot accept another four years of socially narrow supreme court selections or of anti-science. I do, however, take solace in the fact that there will be social progress in our political system regardless of who wins: we will have either a man of mixed race or a woman in one of our two highest offices.

Posted by: Meliza | August 29, 2008 3:39 PM | Report abuse

Hey Guys, Its me...Johnny Edwards, remember?

I am sooooooo proud of my Party for nominating a woman. Yes I wish it was me, but maybe next time, unless there's a black woman on the ballot. I guess I'll have to up my speaking fees for my poverty lectures to pay child support ---- er I mean my campaign worker's child support.
You know how it is. Baby-momma and all that.

OK everybody....God Bless America, and until 2012, make sure you come out and see me on the Duke/University Of Illinios/Harvard Poverty Lecture Tour....Bon Jovi and John Cougar are my warm-up act!!!

Peace in the Mid-east,

John "Humble" Edwards

P.S. to my man Obama - When you get that new Govt. health plan worked out, see if you can delay that cancer cure a little bit for me , OK Bro?

Posted by: Chasing Ambulances while wearing my Illegal Briefs | August 29, 2008 3:35 PM | Report abuse

The idiots proclaiming Sarah Palin had a drug problem are way too hopped up. Are you guys that disturbed? What about BARRY'S COCAINE PROBLEM????? You obamanuts can twist things any way you want, but you just can't be honest, decent, or fair. I guess that is a reflection of your leader.

Posted by: Adrian | August 29, 2008 3:35 PM | Report abuse

What's she going to do the first time he unloads his temper on her?

Posted by: somerseten | August 29, 2008 3:33 PM | Report abuse

Does PUMA stand for Postmenopausal Ugly Miserable Annoyances?

Fortunately, you hags will be swamped by the millions of women voting for Obama.

Posted by: Spectator2 | August 29, 2008 3:33 PM | Report abuse

Wow, brilliant choice by John McCain.

Women and Catholics (I am both) are thrilled with your choice. Hillary could have won both women and Catholics, but no, the Dems had to nominate the "one" candidate who cannot win. Brilliant.

I am a lifelong Democrat, a staunch Hillary supporter who does not accept Barack Obama as the nominee of my party.

Obama is neither qualified or electable. Obama is not qualified to be a U.S. Senator, let alone U.S. President.

My party has foolishly nominated the wrong candidate(s).

The Democratic party should have paid much more attention to the 58% majority voting block of the Democratic party who want Hillary, not Obama and much less attention to the less than 11% of the black minority vote (take out many black females who support Hillary).

Women will decide this election, we decide ALL elections. Hillary was our candidate and remains our first choice.

Given the choices that remain it's McCain 08 and Hillary 2012.

Thank you Senator McCain for hearing our voices. Obama told us he did not need us and to shut the f===up and get in line. WE SAY NO!

My female Hillary delegate friends who attended the DNC convention were physically and verbally intimidated by the Chicago thugs of Obama and Farakaan bodyguards. It was repulsive.

The DNC convention was a farce. Nothing democratic about it. The entire Democratic primary process was a farce. Nothing democratic about it.

The DNC must be held accountable for the unacceptable sexism, racism, classism, voter disenfranchisement and democracy subversion in 2008.

Hillary should be the nominee. Hillary could win this election in a walk.

The Obama-Biden ticket is a loser. The DNC must be handed a HUGE defeat so the party can be taken back from these thugs who have hijacked it.

The DNC and Obama have destroyed the Democratic party in 2008. Obama has set back race relations, set back African American candidates and set back the Democratic party.

**Women's issues are about far more than abortion rights. If abortion rights are your concern, you need to pay a lot more attention to whom you are electing to your local legislature, in every statehouse in the nation is where the battle for abortion rights is being waged, NOT the U.S. Supreme Court. In fact, the U.S. Supreme Court could attempt to overturn Roe v Wade today if they wanted to, they have the votes. I do not believe they do. Roe is settled law.

**Respect and equal opportunity is first and foremost for women. Hillary was shown neither by my party or her opponent Obama. Shame on them. It's a pretty sad day for the Democrats when the Republicans beat them to "finish cracking the hard, glass ceiling".

Thank you Hillary Clinton for the more than 18 million cracks.

We are waiting for you in 2012.

"No self respecting woman should wish or work for the success of a party which ignores her sex" Susan B. Anthony

Posted by: JK | August 29, 2008 3:29 PM | Report abuse

Some advice for future Afrocentric presidential candidates: it's wrong to build a claim for a historic equality candidacy on a foundation that is built by leveraging bigotry and bashing of another group of people.

Posted by: AsperGirl | August 29, 2008 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Two things come to mind when watching them together:

McCain has a well-documented "temperament" problem where he doesn't always get along with people--Obama had a good little zinger about that last night in his speech. Picking someone so inexperienced that he could paternalize might have been more appealing than a man who might talk back and possibly disagree with him.

Second, how are the die-hard conservatives--including women who are not in favor of mothers working outside the home--going to take to a woman who reportedly went back to work three days after giving birth to a baby with Down syndrome?

Posted by: mkchaump | August 29, 2008 3:27 PM | Report abuse

This feels like a hail mary to me, which is surprising given the closeness of the polls. It blows McCain's best argument (experience; it matters here because he is a 72-year old cancer surviver). Not three years ago this woman was mayor of a town less than half the size of Coos Bay, Oregon. Now she's governor of a state with fewer people than Portland, OR. And she comes with her own scandal. Terrific.

Posted by: feralboy12 | August 29, 2008 3:26 PM | Report abuse

Would a TV network hire her as the evening news anchor?

Posted by: Mark-NYC | August 29, 2008 3:24 PM | Report abuse

John M: It is nice to see how clairvoyant you are NOT - for you are ignorant of what you speak. The fact of the matter is that casting Hillary Clinton aside was the most arrogant, foolish, short-sighted wrong-headed political move since the selection of Thomas Eagleton.

There is no way that those who Obama so desperately needs to reach - the generic Hillary voter - are going to hold their nose and pull the lever for him now.

Just the fact that you made such a faux high minded comment as to accuse me of astroturfing with nothing to support your position simply shows that you don't have a clue what matters to the swing voter and what this election is about. Sure - Obama has the far left and the netroots. But that isn't going to get him elected - and neither is Joe Biden.

Posted by: Ike Barnes Ohio Democrat | August 29, 2008 3:24 PM | Report abuse

Sounds lika a 1/2 baked Alaska lie!

Posted by: jus4laughs | August 29, 2008 3:23 PM | Report abuse

The Repulican pick confirms my thoughts. They have no fear of Biden who? He has 18 years experience as a hot air ballon and a Catholic who supports killing babies. I can't wait for the debate.

Posted by: Benhurdog | August 29, 2008 3:22 PM | Report abuse

Surely I'm not the only person who wonders what cynical and misguided logic they're using in the GOP. The reason feminists support Hillary is not merely because she's a woman, it's because her beliefs are antithetical to conservative traditions. The choice of Ms. Palin is hollow symbolism by comparison.

Posted by: boscobobb | August 29, 2008 3:22 PM | Report abuse

I keep reading the comments & all the posters saying she has no experience, well neither does Obama. John McCain is very wise. When the debates start Obama's camp cannot point that fact out. It would be like shooting himself in the foot.
A woman, mother of 5, clean record, The best choice McCain could have made.

Posted by: Excited independent woman voter | August 29, 2008 3:22 PM | Report abuse

The Repulican pick confirms my thoughts. They have no fear of Biden who? He has 18 years experience as a hot air ballon and a Catholic who supports killing babies. I can't wait for the debate.

Posted by: Benhurdog | August 29, 2008 3:21 PM | Report abuse

Stick a fork in McCain he's done!!! Game, Set and Match! Victory Obama!!!

If any former Clinton supporter falls for this trick, they need serious medical attention. This selection is a slap in the face for them and if they don't see it, shame on them.

As mentioned before, the experience issue goes out the window when the VP has less experience and is less qualified than the guy running for Pres in the other party. What a joke.

Additionally, she talks about her child having autism. Do you really think she take care of her child? Can you say Nanny? Sure you can.

McCain just shot himself in the foot!

Posted by: Say What?!?!?! | August 29, 2008 3:21 PM | Report abuse

For some of the Die-hard repubs, MCcain could have chosen our dead president R. Reagan and they would probably say it was a good choice. This just goes to show you that you can only help those that want to be helped.

Posted by: MD Man | August 29, 2008 3:21 PM | Report abuse

Hillary or McCain

We told you so...

Posted by: 344ty | August 29, 2008 3:20 PM | Report abuse

Meantime...its a great news day to relase that as a former flaming liberal talk-show host, you've been sentenced to seven years and three months in federal prison for child porn charges....

http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_10326294?source=most_viewed

Posted by: Bernie Ward - Father of San Francisco Values | August 29, 2008 3:20 PM | Report abuse

Meantime...its a great news day to relase that as a former flaming liberal talk-show host, you've been sentenced to seven years and three months in federal prison for child porn charges....

http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_10326294?source=most_viewed

Posted by: Bernie Ward - Father of San Francisco Values | August 29, 2008 3:19 PM | Report abuse

For some of the Die-hard repubs, MCcain could have chosen our dead president R. Reagan and they would probably say it was a good choice. This just goes to show you that you can only help those that want to be helped.

Posted by: MD Man | August 29, 2008 3:18 PM | Report abuse

Hillary or McCain

We told you so...

Posted by: 344ty | August 29, 2008 3:16 PM | Report abuse

I am shocked that my friend and toilet mate John McCain picked a woman as his running mate. Women are not allowed in the men's room of airport bathrooms, so consequently the party will need to make arrangements to have a video broadcast her speeches into the men's room of the Minneapolis airport where my party will be hosting its convention.

I was hoping that my friend John McCain would have picked that guy with the sweet mullet haircut - he would have been an exciting fresh face in the men's restroom cruising scene. Of course, I would have gone ga-ga, or should I say goo-goo for the guy with the fabulous coif and the magic underwear! Talk about a fashion home run in the world of toilet hijinks!

Or he could have picked that delightful hot young brown twink in Louisiana. He would be another hot, fresh face in the world of toilet cruisers.

Karl "Hot Karl" Rove tells me that he thinks that this choice can pick off the pant suit broads because they're too stupid to realize that this broad from Alaska doesn't stand for a single issue that Hillary Clinton does. No matter, this selection detracts from our mission to bring all closeted Republican toilet sex cruisers into the mainstream.

Posted by: Sen Larry Craig (R-ID) | August 29, 2008 3:15 PM | Report abuse

AS a huge Hillary Clinton supporter and PUMA member, thank you John McCain! Brilliant. The democrats are going to learn the hard way that they should not have dismissed their biggest demographic. It is now the Democratic party that is going to find out how it feels to get screwed by people they take for granted.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 3:14 PM | Report abuse

McC: Get me a woman for VP! Any woman will do! Best if she can shoot a gun and fly a plane. Don't worry about any other qualifications. The Neocon cabal will brief her. Cheney will still do her job while she minds the baby.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 3:14 PM | Report abuse

Palin appears to be bright, attractive and of moderate temperment. Obviously McCain picked her in an attempt to shore up some of his flaws. Instead, he proved Obama's point. McCain doesn't have the judgment we need in the next leader of the free world if he thinks Palin will attract enough Hilary supporters and women to send him to White House.

In this case, on size does not fit all. One women is not a substitute for another. We know Hilary Clinton, we fought along side Hilary Clinton, Hilary Clinton SHARED OUR VIEWS AND VALUES. The ultra conservative, right wing, pro-life Sarah Palin is no Hilary Clinton.

McCain doesn't get it. We want a change in policy, not just a change of gender. Sarah Palin offers more of the same conservative ideology that helped get us into this economic and foriegn policy mess.

I'm with Hilary Clinton. If we want the change Hilary promised, then Barack Obama is the change we need.

Obama/Biden '08

Posted by: Kay | August 29, 2008 3:14 PM | Report abuse

So McCain falls of his perch in office and we've got a 40-something mom of five kids, ex mayor of a hicktown in Alaska as commander in chief?

Hmmm...At least with Obama he's got the depth of Biden to lean on, plus if anything happened to Obama (not that he's on his last legs like McCain), Biden steps in.

She is hot though, I'll give you that.

Posted by: McCainIsSenile | August 29, 2008 3:13 PM | Report abuse

I think we should see more of Palin's background...and see her on the campaign trail before forming judgements.

And, incidentally, Chris:
You can "home in" on an object...or you can "hone" an object...but YOU CAN'T "hone in" on an object.

Posted by: Parsifal | August 29, 2008 3:12 PM | Report abuse

I think we should see more of Palin's background...and see her on the campaign trail before forming judgements.

And, incidentally, Chris:
You can "home in" on an object...or you can "hone" an object...but YOU CAN'T "hone in" on an object.

Posted by: Parsifal | August 29, 2008 3:11 PM | Report abuse

It's funny cause I thought she might break into "you Don't Impress Me Much" at the microphone today...and I would have said
"right back at ya, ...Shania"

Posted by: dl | August 29, 2008 3:11 PM | Report abuse

LOL! It's so hilarious watching all these dailykos sockpuppets and other netroot trolls now posting faux-reader pots, posing as old women!

Ha Ha. He he.

You have sunk so low in your desperation.

Posted by: AsperGirl | August 29, 2008 3:10 PM | Report abuse

BLC wrote:

Alaska's population: 670,000
USA's population: 300,000,000

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BLC,
What is the population in Chicago’s South Side neighborhood?

Posted by: rbas1 | August 29, 2008 3:10 PM | Report abuse

Please please if anyone gets near this woman...ask her the questions and please elaborate on the list

that I put below.

She needs to be questioned on everything from the history of the mujahadeen to trade agreements with China...

many of these I saw Obama and Biden answer adeptly on the trail...

constitutional questions...historic military questions... world market questions...etc

that a woman with 5 and a half year of any kinf of experience (3 being mayor of a town of 9000) likely has very very little knowledge of

Posted by: dl | August 29, 2008 3:10 PM | Report abuse

"Ike Barnes", your astroturfing couldn't be more transparent.

Posted by: John M, | August 29, 2008 3:09 PM | Report abuse

In this photo at least, she reminds me of Tina Fey -- without the wit.

Posted by: Carmine | August 29, 2008 3:09 PM | Report abuse

I'd like to be able to read the minds of Tim Pawlenty, Tom Ridge, and Mitt Romney about now.

Posted by: Cee | August 29, 2008 3:09 PM | Report abuse

Does McCain know that if Palin gets hurt or is in a car accident or something, he can't trade her in for a hotter, younger VP?

Posted by: Hillary2012 | August 29, 2008 3:09 PM | Report abuse

Any so-called "Hillary supporter" who would vote for John McCain--insuring a right-wing Supreme Court for the next generation, guaranteeing the death of Roe v. Wade, etc.--is a liar, a fool, or both.

Posted by: stevefromsacto | August 29, 2008 3:09 PM | Report abuse

This isn't about the good of the country; it's about winning the election. McCain didn't care about selecting someone who was ready to be president should he fail to complete his term. For years now the Republican spinmeisters have focused on ways to eke out elections not unify the country. This is a clever tactical move governed solely by self-interst. McCain isn't targeting all Hillary voters, especially not those who would call themselves "sisters of the traveling pants." He's after working class working women who are married, not single. The nomination was designed to divert media attention from the historic nomination of Obama the morning after the McCain handlers knew Obama would have delivered a powerful speech. They also know that in the VP debate, Biden can't "attack" Palin or he'll look churlish. This nomination was designed to firm up McCain's base, which it probably has, and then peel away just enough working class women, especially Catholics, to squeak out a win in states like Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan, Missouri, and maybe Minnesota.

Posted by: RW | August 29, 2008 3:09 PM | Report abuse

It's a GOOD think she is no Hillary clinton- people will not want to instantly turn off their TV everytime she comes on like they did with Hillary.

Posted by: Tim Kelley | August 29, 2008 3:08 PM | Report abuse

This race is close, so says the polls. There was always the (dreaded)thought that McC might win. Now it is a nightmare if he wins. With his age who knows what could happen. We turn the country over to a governor with 19 months experience? Oh my, God. Deliver us from this. Just LOOK at what you believe to be qualifications for president: "She is young, beautiful, mother of 5, NRA Life Member, pro heterosexual marriage, pro-life, pro-environment, pro-energy independence, pro military, mother of a soldier, a hunter, a fisherwoman,". With these qualifications, many women in America could run for VP. Now you know why we are not only scared of McC, but have been scared of voters like you. Certainly the Republicans had better qualified people and woman that this one.

Sarah Palin is the nightmare that scares the heck out of the libs. She is young, beautiful, mother of 5, NRA Life Member, pro heterosexual marriage, pro-life, pro-environment, pro-energy independence, pro military, mother of a soldier, a hunter, a fisherwoman, and her husband is a man's man and not some metro-sexual girly man.

Ooooraaahh! Obama is done son.

Posted by: Dave

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 3:08 PM | Report abuse

"Based on the majority of these comments you can just tell the Dems are quaking in their boots over this selection. Brilliant choice."


Republican logic at work here - everyone in the world pointing out what a stupid choice this is must mean we're scared. McCain's best argument is gone.

Again, you win the news cycle and lose the election. BRILLIANT!

Posted by: kreuz_missile | August 29, 2008 3:08 PM | Report abuse

In the classic 80's movie "Hunt for Red October" the climactic battle scene ended when the Russian attack submarine was sunk by its own torpedo. Just prior to that climax, the second in command of the doomed submarine looked at his Captain in complete disgust and said, "You arrogant ass - you have killed us all!"

With that classic movie line in mind, and understanding the not-so-subtle brilliance of McCain's choice of Governor Palin, I offer the following comment to those wise leaders of our doomed party:

YOU ARROGANT ASSES - YOU HAVE KILLED OUR CHANCES AT THE PRESIDENCY - AGAIN!

I sent this, first, to Barack Obama - but also to his facilitators David Axelrod, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, Ted Kennedy (who I used to admire), Chris Matthews and others. By the sheer stupidity born from blind arrogance in your rush to cast Hillary Clinton aside you have doomed the party's chances in a year when it should have been a lay-up. You all deserve what you get - and how history will ignore you. Sadly, the rest of us are the ones who will suffer your foolishness.

Posted by: Ike Barnes Ohio Democrat | August 29, 2008 3:08 PM | Report abuse

Wow! McOld picked Karen Walker from Will & Grace for VP!!! Now the White House will have a happy hour 24/7!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 3:08 PM | Report abuse

And no doubt Ms. Palin's health care needs, as well as those of her spouse, able children, and special needs child, are all being covered by the taxpayers of Alaska. Should she be elected VP, her family's health care will largely be financed by American taxpayers. Does that comport with the health care needs of the nearly 50 million Americans who are unable to get health insurance? McCain's "plan" will not address those whose wages are simply too meager to afford health care, despite any kind of tax credit. Palin is not "every woman" by a long shot.

Posted by: David | August 29, 2008 3:08 PM | Report abuse

"Sarah Palin, you are NO Hillary Clinton!"


And thank god for that!!!!!!

Posted by: Hillbillery | August 29, 2008 3:08 PM | Report abuse

The problem I see with McCain picking a Veep to pull Hillary dems is that that canidate is a catch 22. If she is pro-choice she pisses off the Republican base and he loses votes. If she is pro-life, she helps his base incrementally but damages her standing with Hillary dems who who are overwhelmingly feminists and who hold abortion rights as a top issue.

The question now is are the Hillary dems just interested in a woman in a top executive position or in the issues that they tend to hold dearest.

Posted by: DaveinFL | August 29, 2008 3:08 PM | Report abuse

Bimbo from nowhere. Looks like McCain sews up the Geezer vote.

Sexy. Not the first desirable that comes to mind when a true leader is looking to name the next in line for Commander in Chief, especially when I try to sell myself as the party of national security, especially when the wannabee President is 72.

Just how many lapses in judgment does the GOP intend to inflict on this nation?

Posted by: Sara B. | August 29, 2008 3:08 PM | Report abuse

watch as they install the many arms of handlers up her backside so they can better control her.

Listen as she goes from lively, to a person reading the daily talking points with outstanding composure, and not a ounce of personality, and just concentrating on getting the talking points taken care of, the usual daily GOP propaganda, et al.

this woman will never be the same, and will take the same puppeting class that all the GOP had gone before her had taken.

Interesting choice, for a GOP puppet.

Better to look at than the old codger crumudgeon McCain.

But still .... another carefully selected puppet.

Will she still be smiling in a month, two months?

Odds are that she'll be grinning from ear to ear and for what reason, the white house will not tell.

Maybe it's something they put into their coffee.

Off camera, she will probably curse the very day she acquiesced to the GOP call of puppetry, wizardry and witchcraft.

Posted by: pgibson1 | August 29, 2008 3:07 PM | Report abuse

I think this is the best pick McCain could make, but his options weren't good.

I can't imagine how McCain and Palin will create a coherent administration. The pairing seems too imbalanced in his favor. Will there be any of "Palin's people" in the administration at all?

How will they govern? That's the question.

Posted by: mruth | August 29, 2008 3:07 PM | Report abuse

This is an insult to the American people.
She is a talented woman but she has no experience at all. Alaska is a tiny population deeply subsidized by the federal government and oil revenue.
Those who compare her experience with Obama's simply are altering the facts.8 years in the legislature of one our largest states and 4 years in the US senate compared to two years as the volunteer mayor of a village of 5400 and 18 months as governor of our smallest population state is no contest.
Her positions tend to the extremist end of the Republican Party and she has no record on foreign policy or national defense.


Posted by: Pragmatist | August 29, 2008 3:07 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: piktor | August 29, 2008 3:07 PM | Report abuse

Those of you Hillary supporters considering sending your vote to McCain are doing women and your country a disservice. "Sending a message" to Obama in doing so, insures that the principals YOU believe in will be squandered. Please review McCain's record - look at Palin's record. After all, that's all we can really rely on. The media is biased on both sides. You either watch Fox or MSNBC. Its up to you to compare the candidates...make an informed decision. I was a Hillary supporter but I can't in good conscience vote for McCain given his record, given the insanity of the last 8 years and given the obvious tactic to try to manipulate me by nominating a woman for VP. After seeing Barack's speech.... I can't disagree with anything he says or stands for. Come on ladies......don't be played!

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 3:06 PM | Report abuse

bprittenhouse

I agree

The hypocrisy of this choice after the past three months of scare tactics, the lack of worry for the country heaven forbid he can't finish his term,

the sheer tactical nature of this for an election ...

giving absolutely no weight to what the actual role is for.

sad that he cares so much for his own election that he worries not what would happen to us if he were gone.

Posted by: dl | August 29, 2008 3:06 PM | Report abuse

did Obama give a speech last night? I hadn't heard. I can only guess it was the usual fluff and empty promises about all the free stuff we will all get, except you productive americans. you can expect to be punished in accordance with your hard work and sacrifice and success.

And this is the new politcs? same as the old. Moldy.

Posted by: kingofzouk | August 29, 2008 3:06 PM | Report abuse

The concept being advocated in the blogs that disgruntled demoncratic women would vote for the Republican ticket strictly because a women is the Vice Presidential nominee is ridiculous. Govenor Palin's views and beliefs are so contrary to Senator Clinton's that it is hard to understand why anyone who supported the Senator whould even consider Govenor Palin worthy of leading this country. It is also annoying when the press (print, tv, or online) gives creedance to these blogs without understanding who writes them or what information was used to support the statements.

Posted by: MN in Austin | August 29, 2008 3:06 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: daman1

As a Republican man I'm proud my party will be the first to elect a woman VP (and future President, I predict). Way to go!

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Fool.

Posted by: Aunt Esther | August 29, 2008 3:05 PM | Report abuse

You are kidding, right? Now tell me whom he really picked.

Posted by: bodo | August 29, 2008 3:05 PM | Report abuse

The old crafty Vet steals headlines from the Rock Star Obama with his VP Pick!!!

Posted by: Tim Kelley | August 29, 2008 3:05 PM | Report abuse

"Republicans are going to be saying "


Not this undecided, he has my vote from here on out.

Posted by: 3455 | August 29, 2008 3:04 PM | Report abuse

Based on the majority of these comments you can just tell the Dems are quaking in their boots over this selection. Brilliant choice.

Posted by: Ron | August 29, 2008 3:04 PM | Report abuse

Wait until the nation- and Hillary supporters- learn that:

1. She is under investigation for misconduct involving her entire family's efforts to get a state trooper fired after he divorced her sister. seee www.andrewhalcro.com

2. She believes that victims of rape and incest should be required to carry babies of criminals to term.

3. She is a firm believer in creationism.

4. She knows nothing about foreign policy and national security issues. Joe Biden should offer to debate her weekly around the country.

Posted by: ratfishtim | August 29, 2008 3:04 PM | Report abuse

Why?

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"Palin on the ticket will now energize the conservatives that are typically lukewarm to McCain. Bold move and certainly has some liberals wetting themselves."

Good call, Although im not sure the few tinkles that escape between chuckles are something they are concerned about.

Posted by: Josh | August 29, 2008 3:01 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 3:03 PM | Report abuse

Did somebody really call her speech today "Presidential"

You have watched "Working Girl" one time too many.

Shania Twain video yes...presidential ...ugh.

c'mon people it's not that she is a woman...we have presidential women Hillary whether you like her or not...Hutchinson... even one of the women from Minnesota or Maine.

you do not pick a candidate to be your vp just because she is a woman yet is absolutely 50 potentials down the list in qualifications.

can you imagine the scramble our country would hjave to do if McCain was killed and she was the VP? oy.

Posted by: dl | August 29, 2008 3:03 PM | Report abuse

Was Barry's grandfather a witch doctor??
On the night of Thursday, March 26, 1933 number of Mau Mau gangs attacked simultaneously in an area about six miles by three in the Uplands District, about 25 miles from Nairobi. The attacks were carefully planned by a wtich doctor from Kogelo. The method adopted was to wire up huts from the outside, set fire to the roofs and cut down the people with axes and swords as they tried to escape from the windows. Between 40 and 50 huts were burned. Of their inhabitants, 71 were murdered, 51 are still missing, and 50 were wounded.

Most of the dead are women and children who were cut down as they ran through the maize plots. The heat of the fires was intense. Many people ran away in terror: often only the charred bodies of the victims were left. Thus it 1037 is difficult to estimate the casualties with accuracy, and the final figures will probably prove higher than those I have given.

About 2,000 inhabitants of the location have been screened and some hundreds have been detained, of whom at least 150 have been identified by survivors as having taken part in the massacre. A large party of police and an extra company of the King's African Rifles are now conducting an extensive investigation in the area. About the same time a gang attacked Naivasha Police Station and killed three constables and some prisoners. They were unable to break into the police armoury but forced the adjoining Kenya Police Reserve armoury and stole about thirty .303 rifles, 18 Lanchester sub-machine guns and a double-barrelled shot gun, and some rifle and revolver ammunition. While the attack on the police station was going on, another part of the gang released 137 remanded prisoners of whom some 50 have since been recaptured or have returned of their own accord. Military and police forces are now combing the district.

Posted by: Grandpa McSame | August 29, 2008 3:03 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin, you are NO Hillary Clinton!

Posted by: aBigSAM | August 29, 2008 3:03 PM | Report abuse

The Obama campaign's first response to McCain's selection of Governor Palin missed the mark. The biggest problem with this pick is not Palin's inexperience, it's what it says about John McCain. Either McCain believes he is immortal, or he has just admitted that he has been lying for months that he considers decades of foreign policy experience to be the essential qualification for the presidency at this point in history.

Posted by: bprittenhouse | August 29, 2008 3:02 PM | Report abuse

So, McCain spends all summer claiming that Obama doesn't have enough experience, claims that the most important qualification for the VP spot is being ready to take over the presidency, then turns around and does this? Highly disingenuous to say the least, and I think independents are going to notice it.

Posted by: John M. | August 29, 2008 3:02 PM | Report abuse

McCain's mom is 94. He's lived to 72. Obama's Mom: Died of cancer.
Obama's Dad, died in 1982.
Obama's a smoker.

Instead of "heartbeat" from the Presidency, Dems should worry about "a lung tumor" from the Presidency.

Because Biden ain't exactly a spring chicken and has had a friggin aneurysm.

"I'm not Just a Member of the Hair Plug Club, I'm the President -of the United States. Oh, my head...."

Can't wait till Grandma McCain arm wrestles Biden into submission.

Wait, he's a Democrat, he'll surrender.

Posted by: Healthy as a Horse | August 29, 2008 3:02 PM | Report abuse

Hey Priceless. It's no wonder the country still yearns for Obama to reintroduce himself, considering most of his past seems either non-existent or willfully concealed. I still have no idea what he did as a "community organizer". Why are there no transcripts or videos we can see to give us insight into his history? Why has he concealed his relationship with Ayers (via the U of Chicago library)? It might also be interesting to know what he did while on his 3-week vacation in Pakistan when he was a young man. I mean.... Who goes to Pakistan on "vacation"?

Posted by: Pricemore | August 29, 2008 3:02 PM | Report abuse

Whatever you want to say - McCain's Pick has everyone talking as can be sen on this sight and that ALONE is a victory that steals thunder from the buzz of DNC in Denver and Barack's acceptance speech....so WHATEVER you want to say- you cannot deny it has done it's job in stealing the headlines.

Posted by: Tim Kelley, St. Paul, MN | August 29, 2008 3:02 PM | Report abuse

Thats exactly right. It's not like the POW card he can keep playing. In a few days he is really going to have to show why she was picked. Once the novelty wares off Republicans are going to be saying "WTF"


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He does know he doesn't get to pick somebody else after the 24 hour news cycle runs out, right?

Posted by: Pamela Crossley | August 29, 2008 2:58 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 3:01 PM | Report abuse

"Palin on the ticket will now energize the conservatives that are typically lukewarm to McCain. Bold move and certainly has some liberals wetting themselves."

Good call, Although im not sure the few tinkles that escape between chuckles are something they are concerned about.

Posted by: Josh | August 29, 2008 3:01 PM | Report abuse

Finally, a decision I can get behind.

You go John McCain !!!

Posted by: Sheila | August 29, 2008 3:01 PM | Report abuse

What a spectacular blunder on Captain America's part. McCain said the chief criteria he has for choosing a vice-presidential running mate was the person's ability to assume office should anything happen to him.
He just chose an unknown political neophyte for the job. She would be one old man's heart beat away from the Presidency of the United States? Is he sane?
The secret service would be wise to expand McCain's security detail going into St. Oaul next week. He''ll need protection from members of his own party.

Posted by: JMFulton, Jr | August 29, 2008 3:01 PM | Report abuse

Chris starts off the the speculation:

-- The McCain campaign had make little secret of the fact that they wanted to pick a woman as the Arizona senator's running mate, believing that the rift caused by the protracted primary between Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton gave them an opportunity to pick up scads of disgruntled women. --

Not being a chick - my worldview is what it is. But here's an interesting observation from another forum:

--eyeswideopen2 wrote:
I'm sorry to say this (and not looking to offend anyone) but I cannot get behind anyone who participated in beauty pageants. I don't get how any Hill supporter would be willing to look the other way on this. Can you think of a more demeaning (or vacuous) pursuit? This is who they want to put in charge?

Plus, I think it's pretty start and a big contrast - Obama picked a running mate to help cover some particular aspect of governning that he felt needed improvement. It's clear that McCain's choice has nothing to do with actual governing and everything to do solely with getting elected. How craven is that?
8/29/2008 2:50:01 PM--

Ok, so do we (men) really think that McCain is trying to appeal to the modern working women of 2008 by picking a beauty contestant?

Posted by: NoOneImportant | August 29, 2008 3:00 PM | Report abuse

I never realized how much I hate my rights, my country, and my uterus until this very moment. We CAN do better.

NOBAMA HUSSEIN!
MCCAIN PALIN!

Posted by: Hillary Fan Converted to Palin | August 29, 2008 3:00 PM | Report abuse

I was hoping to get the drug user vote all locked up. now what am I supposed to do?

Posted by: snObama | August 29, 2008 3:00 PM | Report abuse

WOW!!!. I am ecstatic. This is political suicide. Many people thought McCain was out of touch. Now they know it.

Posted by: bee | August 29, 2008 3:00 PM | Report abuse

Sexist comments make you sound ignorant, stay at home dads are quite common.

Best decision in the world John McCain.

Posted by: 56678 | August 29, 2008 2:59 PM | Report abuse

He does know he doesn't get to pick somebody else after the 24 hour news cycle runs out, right?

Posted by: Pamela Crossley | August 29, 2008 2:58 PM | Report abuse

One John McCain Once Commented...Obama will do anything to win votes....

Who's doing anything now in a bid to win votes?

According to Obama, it's not that McCain doesn't care...it's just that he doesn't get it!

And I couldn't agree with that statement more.
People hate Barack because of what he's achieved...if he were white...this would be a phenomenon...I really cannot believe people are already talking accolades for Palin...she's just been introduced for F's sake...and people are eating off her plate!

On the other hand, Barack was introduced years ago, and there's still talk he still needs to introduce himself to America!

Yeah, this is the country that Voted in George Bush in office....get this...TWICE!

Barack's promising to UNITE this freaking country of idiots who cannot spell nor tell where in the World Iran or Iraq is!

This guy's promising to send all you imbeciles to College if you play your part...but I guess your heads are so far up McCain and Palin's Bottoms to even smell the revolution sweeping across Blue Collar America!

What more do you want Barack to do? How much further should this guy grovel before some of you numnuts eventually get it that the US...is all hype and marketing...SuperPower my multi racial bottom.

I cry for this country...I really cry for sanity to prevail and that some intelligence, no matter how miniscule, may infect the national psyche!

Posted by: Priceless | August 29, 2008 2:58 PM | Report abuse

What a hugh mistake in selecting Palin. She sounds like a wonderful person but from Hockey Mom to VP. She has more experience on the hockey ice than in foreign affairs or for that matter the economy. McCain is desperate and it shows. Remember he said "the VP is just a heart beat away from the Presidency". Would you like her answering the phone at 3am in the morning to a national crisis?
McCain is so deperate to win that he would put this country in jepardy in order to get the Presidency. Just another error in judgement Mr.McBush!

Posted by: John | August 29, 2008 2:58 PM | Report abuse

What a sad day for women.

If ex-Hillary supporters now choose to support this ticket (after complaining that there opposition to Obama is due to his lack of experience) it will show that the real issue wasn't experience, it was bitterness and sexism at its finest.

Mayor of a town less than 10,000 and governor of a state less than 650k.

Posted by: HA!HA!HA! | August 29, 2008 2:57 PM | Report abuse

She is a drug user, (admitted) and will be the latest tabloid trash in just a few days. This is going to be a huge embarrassment for the Republicans. The democrats will not have to do a thing but watch. Look for the Enquire to track down her supplier in no time. Money talks.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 2:57 PM | Report abuse

This should be pretty easy for the Democrats to handle-

Discussion of age and experience as cornerstone of McCain's plan is now moot. VP choice is a self-described "hockey mom" with a very very thin resume. point- obama

VP choice Palin- like Bush/Cheney is of the old energy vested interest crowd. point-obama

Anti-choice Christian conservative drawing Hillary's Women? Seriously? Point- Obama

Posted by: ethel | August 29, 2008 2:57 PM | Report abuse

'Hillary Fan Converted to Palin' = Karl Rove in Drag

Posted by: msreason | August 29, 2008 2:56 PM | Report abuse

As a Republican man I'm proud my party will be the first to elect a woman VP (and future President, I predict). Way to go!

Posted by: daman1 | August 29, 2008 2:56 PM | Report abuse

Please please Chris somebody ask her the questions like

how many countries in the middle east and asia are nuclear?

I posted a start of questions that she should be asked that i am almost positive Obama and Biden could answer in detail and she would have no idea...


This is a woman that refutes global warming.
again
Do you think she will know...

what the mujahadeen is?

or how many countries in the middle east and asia are nuclear?

or the details of the China trade agreements are?

or the history of the Russia Georgia conflict?

or the history of our national tax code?

the details of what a federalist is?

who are all the countries that helped us in the Iraq war?

what are the details of the conflicts and history between Pakistan and India?

who is the military leader of China?

how many Americans are below the level of poverty?

what are our 3 biggest exports?

can she name the Bill of rights?

which document and piece deals with the separation of church and state?

where the authority of the President stops and congress begins..?

what she thinks the details are of Presidential signing statements?

what were our two worst foreign policy blunders in our history in her opinion?

the list goes on... and on of basics in governing that a woman who served for a year and a half (the length of the primaries) as gov of a state like Alaska...and 3 years as mayor of a town of 9000 most likely will not know 99% of them.

I am pretty sure Obama and Biden could answer all of these...
I think McCain could answer some ...

I have a feeling she would have trouble...and this is a very small part of what she would need to have just a general understanding of in the situation we are about to proceed into if a 72 year old who had cancer twice could not serve his whole term.

Posted by: dl | August 29, 2008 2:56 PM | Report abuse

You can smell the panic in the McCain camp. All the pundits have said the race is about Obama. This proves it--because McCain just said loud and clear this race is about change, not experience.

Gov. Palin seems like a nice, hardworking person. The reformer aspect is appealing. Troopergate isn't going to help her. As talented as she may be, this is an affirmative action move and she is making a huge, huge leap. And this may seem sexist, but I don't know how a "traditional values," "Christian" mother with an infant is going to campaign at the intense rate demanded. I'm all for daddy daycare, but how available is little Trig's mommy going to be to him? Not very. He's not even 5 months old.

Posted by: Kathleen Hussein in Maine | August 29, 2008 2:56 PM | Report abuse

Keep the sexist comments to yourself troglodyte!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 2:56 PM | Report abuse

I'd rather have a woman like Hillary Rodham Clinton to be a champion on the issues of the people, and she is on the right side of the issues. I look forward to her running again, after I expect Obama to take that White House since these folks don't have a clue. I will be firmly in her corner, and not because she's a woman though I appreciate her strengths in defense of my beliefs behind the issues.

No Way, No How, No McCain - Hillary Clinton

This is not the time to be pandering to gender, instead of explaining reasons for stances (as laid out by Dems and Republicans during the Democratic Convention) on the issues. There's quite some explaining to do. I shall be tuned in to the stark contrast of experiences and points. This shall be interesting. Watch the masses organize and refute this pandering; we're not dumb to be played like puppets (what an insult).

He "just doesn't get it." Of all the issues laid out by the Dems during the convention, I want to see what Palin has to say about McCain's stance against Equal Pay for women indeed while she talks about women's progress. Perhaps she can enlighten us all why she backs McCain who is in to slow progress for women, but yet appointed her VP (after his campaign's exploitive behavior).

Watch the masses trample over this decision, and you better believe there's some serious organization going on. Be ready.

Posted by: Obama2008 | August 29, 2008 2:56 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin is the nightmare that scares the heck out of the libs and hate filled pro-abortion/anti-life types.. She is young, beautiful, mother of 5, NRA Life Member, pro heterosexual marriage, pro-life, pro-environment, pro-energy independence, pro military, mother of a soldier, a hunter, a fisherwoman, and her husband is a man's man and not some metro-sexual girly man.

Ooooraaahh! Obama is done son.

Posted by: Dave | August 29, 2008 2:55 PM | Report abuse

LOL....Another barbie for McCain to play with in his seven houses! Palin does not compare to Hillary Clinton in any form. Does anyone want to listen to Palin's squeaky voice for the next four years?

Posted by: Andi | August 29, 2008 2:55 PM | Report abuse

John McCain is a very fluid concept.
1970: war hero
1980: ditched first wife for a younger, prettier model from a wealthy family with suspect connections
1990: keating scandal thief
2000: whitewashed reformer making his power grap
2008: Does John McCain even know who he is?

No only is he not self-aware, but he doesn't know who his party is. The men who don't have a problem with this pick are committed democrats. Northern and West Coast democrats at that.

A reckless and stupid crap shoot of a pick that will cost him Virginia, No Carolina, Georgia and Florida. But he'll get Alaska's 3 votes, and he'll get to hangout with as young and hot a babe as he could hope for. Wow.

Wars certainly can be lost before they are fought. The Republican establishment must be, privately, very upset that McCain went, cynically, with such a lightweight. The pick evokes Clarence Thomas, but has national security impact. And in realpolitiks, Rove has to be furious that now Jeb will have to run against Romney in 2012. McCain won't get the support, and he won't get the turnout that Bush got in '04.

Posted by: Deep Blue | August 29, 2008 2:55 PM | Report abuse

Can I refine my choice of VP now? I am considering handing the nomination back to hillary too. this is hard. how do you vote present in a debate with Mccain. I am shaking in my loafers that I will have to go off script. It will be a first. I um, ah you know, well, like if, then, since, buy, um, uh, .....

Never mind, I am practiced up now.

Posted by: snObama | August 29, 2008 2:55 PM | Report abuse

WOW. The GOP really has nothing to offer except "pro-life." In Europe they would be honest and call themselves the Catholic-Right Party.

Posted by: rusty 3 | August 29, 2008 2:55 PM | Report abuse

What...could you have picked a better VP....her speech was presidential.

My vote...McCain/Palin

Posted by: Palin Fan | August 29, 2008 2:54 PM | Report abuse

This smacks of desperation, just like the Gerry Ferraro choice in 1984.

You have to wonder what McCain is thinking. Kind of runs counter to his experience counts message. But then, Biden does the same for Obama's central theme of change.

But on the most important question, is the VP ready to take over, it's no contest. If Joe Biden has to take over, he gives me a sense of reassureance that he won't require adult supervision. Not so much with Governor Palin.

Alas, thorough review of the internet yields no bikini shots of the former Miss Alaska contestent.

Posted by: Tool4TheMan | August 29, 2008 2:54 PM | Report abuse

To the woman saying "Palin's too inexperienced" -- I have yet to hear an African-American say the same about Obama. Why is it women always expect their own to be 10 Times more experienced than a man just to get their foot in the door?

Posted by: Independant in DC | August 29, 2008 2:54 PM | Report abuse

The reality now is stark and clear.

There are two Americas, the one showcased last night that was inclusive, diverse, young and old, hip, dynamic, open, welcoming, progressive, motivated and thirsting for positive change.

Next week, what we will see in the twin cities is an America that is devoid of just about ALL of the above.

Gone is the excuse that there are no differences between the two parties. They could not be more different!

Now mccain deems it appropriate to reduce/insult Hillary's accomplishments by taking on still another trophy companion. I guess KB Hutchinson was to old and too experienced for the old dog.

There is NO WAY women will be fooled into acceptung this horrific substitute. And by the way, this is not sour grapes. It is unbridled joy that the repubs have given us such an early and meaningful Xmas present!

That said, for the rest of you, choose carefully, because you will get what you vote for!

OBAMA & BIDEN in 2008

Posted by: roxlaw | August 29, 2008 2:53 PM | Report abuse

Republican nominee to be renamed: McCONFUSED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 2:53 PM | Report abuse

Vote for the people you like, what they represent...not the party....Palin's speech was impeccable. She now has my vote!!!! I am excited for the debates. Let's see if Biden tries to bully.

My vote......McCain/Palin

Posted by: Hillary Fan Converted to Palin | August 29, 2008 2:53 PM | Report abuse

A terrible chocie, and a setback for women IMHO. This selection sounds awfully like choosing Monica Goodling for the number 3 post in the justice department. I think such a choice is an insult to women. McCain could have chosen Linda Fiorentina (the former HP CEO) or some other accomplished woman in GOP. Instead he went with someone who was a councilwoman and mayor in a town of 6000 up to two years ago. And don't even start comparing her expirience to Obama's. Obama was a Harvard grad, a law professor and a state legislature for 6 years before being in teh US senate,not a beauty pagent. Besides, the stakes are much higher for McCain's VP. He is 72 years old, and a cancer survivor, so his VP is literally a heartbeat away from presidency.

Posted by: AJ | August 29, 2008 2:53 PM | Report abuse

Sltiowa,
Thousand of people attend military academics each year. Graduation from such academies does not qualify one to be Commander in Chief.

As a member of a military family—including a commissioned officer who served in two wars—I can say with absolute certainty that basic service in the military does not qualify one to be Commander in Chief. A pilot’s work is near the bottom rung on the military ladder. As such, they do not participate in strategic planning, decision making, etc.

Insofar as McCain’s “strong family ties with the military” all I can say is you wouldn’t bring it up if you knew anything about military history. McCain’s grandfather, John S. McCain Sr., assumed command under Adm. Halsey. Together, in 1944, they destroyed the Third Fleet—not in battle, but by steering the fleet into a hurricane: lost 3 destroyers, 140+ aircraft, and killed 800 men. They repeated the same mistake in 1945, in which the recently repaired fleet sustained heavy damages, including lost of 70 aircraft and 6 men. In both disasters, McCain Sr. and Halsey violated fundamental nautical principles regarding sailing in storms.

BTW, McCain Sr. was a graduate of the United States Naval Academy…goes to show you a military education doesn’t qualify anyone to be commander of a fleet, let alone Commander in Chief.

Posted by: Catherine | August 29, 2008 2:53 PM | Report abuse

Sltiowa,
Thousand of people attend military academics each year. Graduation from such academies does not qualify one to be Commander in Chief.

As a member of a military family—including a commissioned officer who served in two wars—I can say with absolute certainty that basic service in the military does not qualify one to be Commander in Chief. A pilot’s work is near the bottom rung on the military ladder. As such, they do not participate in strategic planning, decision making, etc.

Insofar as McCain’s “strong family ties with the military” all I can say is you wouldn’t bring it up if you knew anything about military history. McCain’s grandfather, John S. McCain Sr., assumed command under Adm. Halsey. Together, in 1944, they destroyed the Third Fleet—not in battle, but by steering the fleet into a hurricane: lost 3 destroyers, 140+ aircraft, and killed 800 men. They repeated the same mistake in 1945, in which the recently repaired fleet sustained heavy damages, including lost of 70 aircraft and 6 men. In both disasters, McCain Sr. and Halsey violated fundamental nautical principles regarding sailing in storms.

BTW, McCain Sr. was a graduate of the United States Naval Academy…goes to show you a military education doesn’t qualify anyone to be commander of a fleet, let alone Commander in Chief.

Posted by: Catherine | August 29, 2008 2:53 PM | Report abuse

A terrible chocie, and a setback for women IMHO. This selection sounds awfully like choosing Monica Goodling for the number 3 post in the justice department. I think such a choice is an insult to women. McCain could have chosen Linda Fiorentina (the former HP CEO) or some other accomplished woman in GOP. Instead he went with someone who was a councilwoman and mayor in a town of 6000 up to two years ago. And don't even start comparing her expirience to Obama's. Obama was a Harvard grad, a law professor and a state legislature for 6 years before being in teh US senate,not a beauty pagent. Besides, the stakes are much higher for McCain's VP. He is 72 years old, and a cancer survivor, so his VP is literally a heartbeat away from presidency.

Posted by: AJ | August 29, 2008 2:53 PM | Report abuse

Oh please, let Tina Fey return to Saturday Night Live for a few guest spots. They're practically twins!

BB

Posted by: Fairlington Blade | August 29, 2008 2:53 PM | Report abuse

I couldn't decide until now. McCain has a good record, but instead of trying to get independent votes, he goes for a conservative VP. That's it for me. I'll vote for Obama.

Posted by: vv | August 29, 2008 2:53 PM | Report abuse

Wow!!!!! What a speech....It isn't about which political party you belong to...it is about the person. Palin delivered a perfect speech. I have officially converted.

McCain/Palin you have my vote!!!!

Posted by: Hillary Fan Converted to Palin | August 29, 2008 2:50 PM | Report abuse

I get the feeling that is McCain didn't pick a woman- people would have said if you don't vote for Obama- you are a racist-now we can counter and say if you don't vote Mcain Palin- you are a cheuvenist pig...ha ...what a mess

Posted by: Tim Kelley, St. Paul, MN | August 29, 2008 2:50 PM | Report abuse

Let me see if I understand things…

McCain picks Palin as his running mate but he and practically every other conservative/Republican ‘Talking Head’ have been screaming about Obama’s lack of experience and how this would be disastrous for our country. The argument is “We need to have experienced leadership who understand the big picture. We need leadership that recognizes the complexities of our national economy, the world economy, world politics, and a dearth of issues that only a seasoned and experienced leader can effectively manage and understand.” The argument of choosing or even considering Obama brings tremendous risk to our economy, our national security, etc.

McCain then picks Palin, a woman, who is two years from overseeing Wasilla, AK. She was mayor of a town of 6,700 people just two years ago!!! This left her experienced in matters like “Who’s got moose patrol today?” and “Is John Boy going to get over to the town square so he can fix the our traffic light?” and “What can the community do to ensure Mr. Wibble gets enough sales so he will start reopening the market on Sundays?”

The thinking is “Let’s pick a girl so we can get all of those disenchanted Hillary voters to swing and vote for us. Palin’s pro-life and she’ll swing those hard-line Christian voters our way.” Let’s pick her even if, basically, we’re one stroke or heart attack away from this woman becoming President.

McCain turned 72 years old today and is looking to tackle one of the most stressful jobs in the world and his thinking, thinking that the best thing for the good of the country, convey how he really understands the big picture, and look to create a compelling ticket of experienced leadership…is to pick a woman two years removed from the big politics of Wasilla, AK to be the best person to replace him if something should happen?!?!?

In my book, that’s not looking at what’s best for our country, it’s only looking to ‘Win and win at any cost”…even at the expense of putting someone utterly and tremendously inexperienced in, arguably, the most important role in the world - one who is a heartbeat away going from “How are we going to keep the bears away from our town dump?” to “Should I push the big red button?”

What a Fu$%ing joke!!!
Obama for President. It’s so right that anything else would be wrong.

Posted by: Big DECK | August 29, 2008 2:50 PM | Report abuse

She doesn't need to debate anyone.

Obama doesn't...

Posted by: 5667 | August 29, 2008 2:50 PM | Report abuse

I don't know about the choice but the timing was perfect!

Dems, the game has just begun, why don't you sit down and watch the pros play!

The rookie and his foster granpa will be history in weeks!

Posted by: Caronte | August 29, 2008 2:50 PM | Report abuse

Wow!!!!! What a speech....It isn't about which political party you belong to...it is about the person. Palin delivered a perfect speech. I have officially converted.

McCain/Palin you have my vote!!!!

Posted by: Hillary Fan Converted to Palin | August 29, 2008 2:50 PM | Report abuse

Wow!!!!! What a speech....It isn't about which political party you belong to...it is about the person. Palin delivered a perfect speech. I have officially converted.

McCain/Palin you have my vote!!!!

Posted by: Hillary Fan Converted to Palin | August 29, 2008 2:50 PM | Report abuse

Daman1: No, What you don't understand is that there is a very good chance that Palin may be called upon to serve as stand in President. Very few people know anything at all about this woman and there isn't enough time to found out. The majority of Americans (at least the smart ones) will not take the chance of entrusting the country to a stranger. Strength of character she may have, but that's no use if no bugger knows that!
Catastrophic choice in actual fact;
feel free to put your head back up your backside.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 2:50 PM | Report abuse

Don't bet she will get beat by Biden in the debate...She is a tough cookie AND she has more experience than Obama does.

Posted by: daman1 | August 29, 2008 2:50 PM | Report abuse

+++++########NEWSFLASH########+++++

Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama's campaign on Friday blasted his Republican rival's choice of Alaska Governor Sarah Palin as a running-mate, highlighting her "zero" foreign policy experience.
"Today, John McCain put the former mayor of a town of 9,000 with zero foreign policy experience a heartbeat away from the presidency," Obama spokesman Bill Burton said in a statement.

"Hello Kettle?? You're Black !!" O-Bama Campaign


The lady doth protest too much, methinks.
William Shakespeare

Posted by: ######NEWSFLASH###### | August 29, 2008 2:50 PM | Report abuse

Republicans see more clearly where this nation should be headed. McCain/Palin has won my vote!
Godd cause you don't...she pro everything this is the problem with people voting they just vote for who ever

she voted against equal pay
her husband works for BP (oil)
oooh she forgot to put that in before the fishing
she pro-everything
and have you forgotten about our troops
ooh i guess you dont have friiends and family members serving

oooh yeahh you say she a woman...a hole

Posted by: soldier | August 29, 2008 2:50 PM | Report abuse

Republicans see more clearly where this nation should be headed. McCain/Palin has won my vote!
Godd cause you don't...she pro everything this is the problem with people voting they just vote for who ever

she voted against equal pay
her husband works for BP (oil)
oooh she forgot to put that in before the fishing
she pro-everything
and have you forgotten about our troops
ooh i guess you dont have friiends and family members serving

oooh yeahh you say she a woman...a hole

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 2:50 PM | Report abuse

Republicans see more clearly where this nation should be headed. McCain/Palin has won my vote!
Godd cause you don't...she pro everything this is the problem with people voting they just vote for who ever

she voted against equal pay
her husband works for BP (oil)
oooh she forgot to put that in before the fishing
she pro-everything
and have you forgotten about our troops
ooh i guess you dont have friiends and family members serving

oooh yeahh you say she a woman...a hole

Posted by: soldier | August 29, 2008 2:50 PM | Report abuse

Sltiowa,
Thousand of people attend military academics each year. Graduation from such academies does not qualify one to be Commander in Chief.

As a member of a military family—including a commissioned officer who served in two wars—I can say with absolute certainty that basic service in the military does not qualify one to be Commander in Chief. A pilot’s work is near the bottom rung on the military ladder. As such, they do not participate in strategic planning, decision making, etc.

Insofar as McCain’s “strong family ties with the military” all I can say is you wouldn’t bring it up if you knew anything about military history. McCain’s grandfather, John S. McCain Sr., assumed command under Adm. Halsey. Together, in 1944, they destroyed the Third Fleet—not in battle, but by steering the fleet into a hurricane: lost 3 destroyers, 140+ aircraft, and killed 800 men. They repeated the same mistake in 1945, in which the recently repaired fleet sustained heavy damages, including lost of 70 aircraft and 6 men. In both disasters, McCain Sr. and Halsey violated fundamental nautical principles regarding sailing in storms.

BTW, McCain Sr. was a graduate of the United States Naval Academy…goes to show you a military education doesn’t qualify anyone to be commander of a fleet, let alone Commander in Chief.

Posted by: Catherine | August 29, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse

One John McCain Once Commented...Obama will do anything to win votes....

Who's doing anything now in a bid to win votes?

According to Obama, it's not that McCain doesn't care...it's just that he doesn't get it!

And I couldn't agree with that statement more.
People hate Barack because of what he's achieved...if he were white...this would be a phenomenon...I really cannot believe people are already talking accolades for Palin...she's just been introduced for F's sake...and people are eating off her plate!

On the other hand, Barack was introduced years ago, and there's still talk he still needs to introduce himself to America!

Yeah, this is the country that Voted in George Bush in office....get this...TWICE!

Barack's promising to UNITE this freaking country of idiots who cannot spell nor tell where in the World Iran or Iraq is!

What more do you want Barack to do? How much further should this guy grovel before some of you numnuts eventually get it that the US...is all hype and marketing...SuperPower my multi racial bottom.

I cry for this country...I really cry for sanity to prevail and that some intelligence, no matter how miniscule, may infect the national psyche!

Posted by: Priceless | August 29, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse

I am flat out stunned by the stupidity of McCain's choice!!! This is who the American people want as the person "a heartbeat away" from the presidency? A person who's been governor of a small, idiosyncratic state (no offense to Alaskans here) for all of 20 months, with previous service as mayor of a tiny city? A person with ZERO knowledge of foreign policy? Or hardly any other areas of policy? Whose only relevant credentials seem to be she likes guns, hates abortions, and doesn't have a penis?

It's been fun watching the Republican strategists dealing with this move today. They are clearly perplexed. It is, however, a perfect demonstration of one of McCain's great flaws that many of his supporters acknowledge: his tendency to reject input and go with his instinct. He's decided he can pick off disgruntled Hilary fans. He might have been able to had he gone with a moderate female Republican. But does he really think a gun-totting, rabidly anti-choice woman they've never heard of who is the darling of the far, far right will do the trick? McCain must be on drugs or slipping into dementia.

Posted by: Bwana | August 29, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse

I am flat out stunned by the stupidity of McCain's choice!!! This is who the American people want as the person "a heartbeat away" from the presidency? A person who's been governor of a small, idiosyncratic state (no offense to Alaskans here) for all of 20 months, with previous service as mayor of a tiny city? A person with ZERO knowledge of foreign policy? Or hardly any other areas of policy? Whose only relevant credentials seem to be she likes guns, hates abortions, and doesn't have a penis?

It's been fun watching the Republican strategists dealing with this move today. They are clearly perplexed. It is, however, a perfect demonstration of one of McCain's great flaws that many of his supporters acknowledge: his tendency to reject input and go with his instinct. He's decided he can pick off disgruntled Hilary fans. He might have been able to had he gone with a moderate female Republican. But does he really think a gun-totting, rabidly anti-choice woman they've never heard of who is the darling of the far, far right will do the trick? McCain must be on drugs or slipping into dementia.

Posted by: Bwana | August 29, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse

"But having no experience as the VP candidate is a disaster."

He's proved over 18 months of campaigning that he's ready to be President. The VP doesn't go through such scrutiny, they just have to have the resume that says they're ready to fill in on day 1 (that is the only qualification for selection). If Palin would have gotten here after campaigning for months and proving her worth, it would be a different story.

But that misses the issue completely. The experience issue isn't an issue for Obama to win, it's an issue for Obama to completely neutralize. McCain did that for him by selecting Palin and proclaiming that her experience makes her more than qualified.

Experience is off the table, now it's about who will really bring about change to America.

Game/Set/Match Obama 08

Posted by: kreuz_missile | August 29, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse

What exactly were Hillary's quals again? Wife of a governor/president and Senator for a few years. She was also a lawyer (not sure if that is good or bad). Palin may be light on experience, but she is 2nd on the ticket, where the lack of experience on the Democrat side is LEADING the ticket. Also, to all the Dems attacking her, look at what Obama has actually DONE, not what he has said. Look at the state of Illinois and the level of corruption, the political machine that gave birth to Obama. Try and ompare "experience" objectively and then come back and honestly try and blast Palin while support Obama.

Posted by: TomB | August 29, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse

kreuz_missle has a point. anyone read the naval exploits of dad and especially grand-dad McCain? Try "Halsey's Typhoon". There was a McCain as Operations officer, grand-dad i recollect. The 3rd Fleet violated a basic mariners principle for storm conditions, lost 3 or 4 ships and sailed away from 700 sailors most of whom drowned. Must have been a question of judgement at or near the top.

Posted by: socalguy | August 29, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse

I wonder how Obama the Changeling is going to try to spin this one!

Posted by: Run Run Run | August 29, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse

"mmarri - Palin's husband is not an Eskimo! he is a native Alaskan - meaning that he was born and raised in the state of Alaska. "

Yeah, "native Alaskan" is something akin to being a sabra. It doesn't mean Eskimo or Aleut or whatever.

Posted by: Mastodon Juan | August 29, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse

The tabloids will eat this woman alive. From her admitted drug use, and I would say she still uses, she lives in Alaska. To every boyfriend she has ever had. This bimbo will get ripped to shreds. The Democrats won't have to do a thing, the tabloids will do it for them. Ask Edwards how good the Enquire is. I bet the Enquire buys the story from her drug suppler before the Monday.

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Let me get this straight Libs:

Having no experience as the Presidential candidate is not a problem

But having no experience as the VP candidate is a disaster.

I hope you nutjobs keep talking about experience right up until you lose in a landslide.

Posted by: kingofzouk | August 29, 2008 2:36 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse

kreuz_missle has a point. anyone read the naval exploits of dad and especially grand-dad McCain? Try "Halsey's Typhoon". There was a McCain as Operations officer, grand-dad i recollect. The 3rd Fleet violated a basic mariners principle for storm conditions, lost 3 or 4 ships and sailed away from 700 sailors most of whom drowned. Must have been a question of judgement at or near the top.

Posted by: socalguy | August 29, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse

I wonder how Obama the Changeling is going to try to spin this one!

Posted by: Run Run Run | August 29, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Anonymous wrote: The tabloids will have a field day with this bimbo. Beauty queen, druggie, all we need now are the nude pictures that some old boyfriend has lawing around.
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What right do you have to call someone a name like that? You don't know her, never met her, never saw her in person (don't even try lying). You are precisely the reason why liberals are becoming more and more on the fringe of civilized society. Just can't keep their nasty mouths shut!!

Posted by: Adrian | August 29, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse

kreuz_missle has a point. anyone read the naval exploits of dad and especially grand-dad McCain? Try "Halsey's Typhoon". There was a McCain as Operations officer, grand-dad i recollect. The 3rd Fleet violated a basic mariners principle for storm conditions, lost 3 or 4 ships and sailed away from 700 sailors most of whom drowned. Must have been a question of judgement at or near the top.

Posted by: socalguy | August 29, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Picking Palin is patronizing because no one, no single rational human being would think that McCain surveyed the field of available Republican candidates in America and thought, "Sarah Palin, she's the one! She's the one to be vice president of a nation of 300 million people! There is no one more qualified than her!"

Instead he thought, "...Hillary voters... try to look less old... Romney is awful..." and then I'm not really sure what he thought after that.

Posted by: Anonymous from Munci | August 29, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse

on the plus side sarah only crashed her one fishing boat.

So 'One boat Sarah' can join '5 plane McCain'.

Posted by: Magoo, older than dirt | August 29, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse

McCain's decision is offensive. Women are not going to vote for him just because he would a female who would agree to be on his ticket (judging by her incredibly thin resume, I am giving McCain the benefit of the doubt that he first considered more qualified women and they turned him down). Sarah Palin is no Hillary Clinton.

Second, the experience issue is a non-starter because Palin simply does not have enough time to "fillin the gaps" so to speak or to share with us her ideas and visions the way Obama, Clinton, Biden, etc have done for the last two years. Voters have had a chance to hear what Obama had to say and decide to what degree his experience (or relative lack thereof) weighed in the balance of his potential as president. We will have no such opportunity with Ms. Palin. Her experience will have to stand as it is today - which is only slightly more than the PTA Vice President that she looked like today.

Posted by: Sad day for the GOP | August 29, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse

It's insulting to me, as a Hillary fan, to suggest that just because Palin is female, we could be so easily swayed. Palin's politics are a world away from Hillary's. I hope Hillary's fans deserve more credit than that.

It would be a disaster for all women who hope to see a female president in our life times to make our first serious candidate for the spot an inexperienced person like Palin. Whether you are a Republican or a Democrat, you can't be serious about this candidate! If there's a woman on either ticket, let her be the best "man" for the job, not just a token female.

Posted by: JD | August 29, 2008 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Hey, I am experienced. I was a community organizer and helped to remove asbstos from a building once.

I also got a nuclear proliferation vote through the Senate with no opposition on a voice vote. then there was my empty ethics bill. then there was my veterans motion which never left committee. I voted present a lot in a past job too.

Well that's it. Oh I almost forgot, I wrote a book about myself.

Posted by: snObama | August 29, 2008 2:46 PM | Report abuse

P.S. Does she even HAVE a passport?

Posted by: RealDCC | August 29, 2008 2:46 PM | Report abuse

A very young and inexperienced Governor from Alaska with a "reverse-nepotism" firing scandal hanging over her head? McCain was pretty desperate when he made this choice. It will be interesting to see how it plays out, but she really doesn't seem ready on Day One.

Score: Obama chooses Biden 1, McCain chooses Palin 0.

Posted by: Chuck | August 29, 2008 2:46 PM | Report abuse

It's likely her son has "Downs Syndrome," not "Down Syndrome."

Posted by: Jacksonian | August 29, 2008 2:46 PM | Report abuse

I think it's an interesting choice. What Democrats don't want to admit (and I've voted the Democratic ticket the past 4 elections) is the election isn't determined by die-hard Democrats nor Republicans. The election is determined by Republican voters who swing another way.

Sarah Palin might not sway Democrats to vote the other ticket, but she won't cause Republicans to swing the other way. And that's all McCain needs to win the election, which he will.

Posted by: Independant in DC | August 29, 2008 2:46 PM | Report abuse

With the choice of Palin as VP under his belt, it is a safe bet that President McCain would chose the equally qualified Harriet Meiers as a Supreme Court Justice.

Or has that been tried?

Posted by: AZ | August 29, 2008 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Behold! See the next President of the United $tates: Sarah Palin! McCain will resign after three months in office due to serious health issues.

Posted by: Guy Fox | August 29, 2008 2:46 PM | Report abuse

A weak pick from a weak party. Dems now just need to make sure November votes are counted correctly.

Posted by: Patriot3 | August 29, 2008 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Obama's speech was the same liberal laundry list we've heard for the last 30 years - granted it was a spectacular setting and production, but the words were pretty vapid. However, the Palin pick has completely knocked all coverage of the speech out and McCain is dominating the news cycle. Palin is a great and historic pick. She is an amzing woman.

Posted by: daman1 | August 29, 2008 2:46 PM | Report abuse

I was floored by McCain's choice. I have been following Governor Palin for awhile. Although her values are at odds with mine on some things, overall her strength of character and her grasp of issues superceeds the differences in politics. Obama lost me along time ago, not for his lack of exprience but for his lack of character, substance and his scary ideas about dealing with foreign countries that are anti US. I had decided not to vote this November.

I just changed my mind. For the first time in my life I will vote Republican. I never thought I would see the day - McCain/Palin have my vote.

Posted by: DemInSanDiego | August 29, 2008 2:45 PM | Report abuse

L-E-G-A-C-Y


A broken party, a broken electoral process, a broken military, a broken domestic policy ? a broken foreign policy, a broken war in Afghanistan, an uncertain situation in Iraq, bank crisis...and 2 usurped Presidential elections.


You name it...this is the LEGACY of the in place administration.

And McCain has a 90-95% in compliance voting record with the in place administration.


What the hell more do you want? You want the iceberg to float over to the Titanic? No.

yu go figure out the rest it ain't that difficuolt

Posted by: jatox | August 29, 2008 2:44 PM | Report abuse

i don't think ya can consider the selection of an unexperienced unknowledgeable person brilliant. she'll be crushed in the debates, and for every hillary supporter she gets, and there won't be many--she'll lose another in the persuadable middle, and lose everyone who knows mccain is, well, older and she's really unfit to be president.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 2:44 PM | Report abuse

A triumphal entry of the GOP into the 20th Century! Maybe in another 24 years they'll get around to nominating a minority for veep.

Posted by: richard schumacher | August 29, 2008 2:44 PM | Report abuse

"Because it's true! There are at least a dozen better-qualified men who were vetted for the job. Picking a woman of Palin's experience proves that all he (they) wanted was the XX-chromosome. The proof? If you omitted gender-related pronouns and simply repeated Palin's history, that person would not have gotten a second look. It's only when you add the "shes" and the "hers" that she becomes valuable."

There are a dozen better qualified WOMEN in the Republican party than Palin! Christine Todd Whitman, Kay Bailey Hutchison, Condi Rice, Jodi Rell, etc. He wants a hardcore conservative, but he wants a woman solely so he can claim some aspect of "change" - that's the only way you get Palin.

Posted by: kreuz_missile | August 29, 2008 2:44 PM | Report abuse

As noted, Palin is the first woman to serve as the Republican vice presidential pick; Democrats crossed that Rubicon in 1984 when Geraldine Ferraro was Minnesota Sen. Walter Mondale's running mate.

So, this is not new.

2 years in a statewide office, after serving as mayor in a town with fewer people than attended last night's convention?

Experience advantage: Obama/Biden '08
Judgment advantage: Obama/Biden '08

And even after the conservative religious group prayed for bad weather in Denver and instead got a hurricane threatening the Gulf ...

Weather advantage: Obama/Biden '08

Posted by: RealDCC | August 29, 2008 2:43 PM | Report abuse

All I have to say she is easier on the eyes than Dick Cheney or Hillary Clinton!!!I was hoping for Pawlenty but I am pleasantly surprised- it will be interesting to see a debate between Biden and her since they are both nice people.

Posted by: Tim Kelley, St. Paul, MN | August 29, 2008 2:43 PM | Report abuse

This pick was aimed at women voters who were going to go to McCain after Hillary had to concede. But it's not going to make people who were already going to vote Republican vote "even more."

Sorry, this is a back-handed slap at Obama for not picking Hillary, and it won't work.

Slam-dunk Obama campaign.

Posted by: Xlnt | August 29, 2008 2:43 PM | Report abuse

The Nobama slimy campaign is shivering.

The experience argument is a hoax. If Palin is not experienced to be a VP, ditto for Nob(ama). People care whether the President is experienced, not the Veep. And on that test, Nob flunks.


So, if the gutter rats attack Palin, by definition, you gutter rats must think Nob is unqualified for president also.

Nob thought he could diss Clinton; spit in her face, humiliate her, play the sex and race card, and use his empty rhetoric to steal the presidency, as he did the nomination.

He could have been slightly more humble, and at least considered HRC for VP. No, but his Illinois sized ego was too big, and he had to spit in her face, to show who is the boss.

So, now, Obama groupie gutter rats, your empty man's world is crumbling. The women's vote is gone. Vanished. Of course, the Nob never had much support among men.

Most of all, Nob compared Bill C to Nixon. And half of the dems think it is OK?! You never see Repugs insulting their own, least of all, their successful presidents. And for Nob to insult the only 2-term dem president since FDR, was beyond the pale. For this alone, any true Clinton supporter (i.e. half of dem party) could never vote Nob.


Kiss the 18 mil HRC voters, and more broadly a large majority of the democratic party half good bye.

I will have fun seeing how the prostitute media pals of Nob (too many to list; start with Genie RObinson, Dionne, Dowd, Rich, Olberman, Cafferty, Matthews, and so on) will react to this pick, and to the ground shifting and melting under Nob's campaign feet.


Posted by: intcamd1 | August 29, 2008 2:42 PM | Report abuse

Please tell me where can I find Obama's acceptance speech? It is so important that nobody has mentioned it since the 'bimbo' was designated ...

Posted by: Caronte | August 29, 2008 2:42 PM | Report abuse

No kingofzouk, what that means is Senator's McCain's campaign issue regarding Senator Obama's experience was meritless. By God, even he didn't believe it.

Good news, however--there's other reasons for you to select Senator McCain if you like. You'll just have to wait for them to explain it to you so that you can blog it here again.

Posted by: Jackson | August 29, 2008 2:42 PM | Report abuse

This is the Democrats' worst nightmare come true - A smart, accomplished, attractive, Conservative, Republican woman. Bonus: She already has more executive experience than Obama and Biden COMBINED!!! Hah, this is going to be fun.

Posted by: Nobama | August 29, 2008 2:42 PM | Report abuse

Squirt me some tears Dems!

Posted by: Babies | August 29, 2008 2:42 PM | Report abuse

Obama has exactly 1.5 yrs of National level political experience when he decided to run for Prez.

Plus, Obama's inexperience is at the TOP of the ticket. Palin's is at the bottom...so it doesn't matter as much.

This female Democrat is voting GOP this year! WISE CHOICE SEN. MCCAIN.

Posted by: Amber | August 29, 2008 2:42 PM | Report abuse

I am less concerned with what the loony Libs on this page have to say about Palin. the only voice that counts are the voters who have a brain and are still thinking about it. that lets out Obama supporters on both counts.

As far as Obama goes, I am willing to ignore what Republicans have to say about him too. All I need is what his fellow Dems say - not ready to lead, a fairy tale, on the job training etc. Even Dems know the truth and it is on youtube for all to see.

Posted by: kingofzouk | August 29, 2008 2:41 PM | Report abuse


So what is her experience? A town counsel trying to figure out where to put a stop sign?

Let me get this straight Libs:

Having no experience as the Presidential candidate is not a problem

But having no experience as the VP candidate is a disaster.

I hope you nutjobs keep talking about experience right up until you lose in a landslide.

Posted by: kingofzouk | August 29, 2008 2:36 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 2:41 PM | Report abuse

This is a great pick for McCain for several reasons:

1) She is, compared to other potential candidates young and inexperienced. But she has more executive experience than Obama. This will tempt the Obama campaign to criticize her inexperience, which will force voters to consider his inexperience (which exceed's Palin's).
2) She is a woman, which negates the Obama claim to a "historical election", since McCain's is not "historical".
3) She is a strong conservative, which will encourage conservatives to go out and show support for McCain at the ballot box (which has been shaky).
4) McCain is now the outside-of-Washington candidate. The Obama/Biden ticket is composed to two congressional insiders (when Congress has a record low approval rating), thus undercutting Obama's claim to "change".

Those are just my immediate observations...

Posted by: Winner | August 29, 2008 2:40 PM | Report abuse

We'll have to see but one has to say that this looks very much like the McCain camp without a clue what to do, flapping around for something that is astonishing in order to steal Obama's thunder. Right now it looks like they failed on strengthening McCain and astonishing everybody!
The Obama acceptance may well prove to be the KO punch for McLame and co. That's probably why McCain has been pushing for offshore drilling; he's out of gas and he knows it!

Posted by: General Grant | August 29, 2008 2:40 PM | Report abuse

Joe Biden will eat this woman for breakfast and crap her out before lunch.

Really, this is their big play? This woman spent six years as mayor of a town of 6,700 people, is governor of a state for two years, and she's ready to be one heart beat away from the job of leader of the free world?

This woman isn't even fit to carry Hillary's purse, and they expect that feminists everywhere will suddenly swoon and vote for her?

Absolutely puzzling...seems almost like a Trojan Horse.

Posted by: CatherineinOHIO | August 29, 2008 2:39 PM | Report abuse

Bad move by McCain. It will be a very effective foil for Obama in beating back criticisms that he lacks experience (because he has more than her). If being governor of ALASKA for a couple of years qualifies you to be president (which it has to if she's a VP -- it must be the same standard, or it would leave open teh chance that someone "unfit" would become president), then there is absolutely no doubt that Obama is qualified by McCain's standard.

And HRC's supporters are NOT going to sign on to an ultra-anti-abortion ticket simply because she is a woman (if that is what he was thinking he is nuts).

I really think he had a shot, but he needed to run an uncovential campaign -- not in terms of gender, but in terms of whipping the base in line and moving the R party in another direction.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 2:39 PM | Report abuse

Will Palin help deliver Virginia? I don't think so. Ooooh, yeah...uh, I'm going to have to ask you to come in on...Saturday.

Posted by: Lumbergh | August 29, 2008 2:38 PM | Report abuse

EL--Senators don't run states on a day to day basis.

Posted by: Cheryl | August 29, 2008 2:37 PM | Report abuse

Bill Burton, a spokesman for the Obama campaign, said in a statement. “Governor Palin shares John McCain’s commitment to overturning Roe v. Wade, the agenda of Big Oil and continuing George Bush’s failed economic policies — that’s not the change we need, it’s just more of the same.”

Posted by: Magoo equals Bitterness and Hate | August 29, 2008 2:37 PM | Report abuse

Smells like sour-grapes in here!

Posted by: Nelson | August 29, 2008 2:37 PM | Report abuse

Most of us Alaskans like her promise of integrity (though under scrutiny) but deplore her views on wildlife, especially the gunning of wolves from helicopter (over 700 to date). Not everyone here wants to open the Arctic National Refuge to oil exploration either

Posted by: In Alaska | August 29, 2008 2:37 PM | Report abuse

A realist,

I hope you are right this time!

Posted by: Caronte | August 29, 2008 2:37 PM | Report abuse

During the primary, I heard some of Hillary Clinton's supporters argue that the only reason Senator Obama was leading was because he was African-American. Is there anyone out there who believes Sarah Palin would have been Senator McCain's selection for VP if her name was Robert Palin?

I understand that politics makes strange bedfellows and VP selections, but this is pandering not seen since Geraldine Ferraro. Maybe we need to find a few videos of Republicans deriding that selection.

Posted by: Jackson | August 29, 2008 2:36 PM | Report abuse

So, the Republicans think that by putting a woman on the ticket they can win Hillary's supporters? Given McCain is 72, Palin might get the chance to be the first female president of the United States if he wins and cannot finish his term. Do you think Hillary and her supporters like the idea that someone with even less foreign policy experience than Obama might take the title of the first female president of the United States away from her?

Posted by: anthony | August 29, 2008 2:36 PM | Report abuse

Let me get this straight Libs:

Having no experience as the Presidential candidate is not a problem

But having no experience as the VP candidate is a disaster.

I hope you nutjobs keep talking about experience right up until you lose in a landslide.

Posted by: kingofzouk | August 29, 2008 2:36 PM | Report abuse

Can you Obama supporters tell me what state or what business Obama has run in all of his 10 years of political experience?

Posted by: Cheryl | August 29, 2008 2:35 PM | Report abuse

What all you Dems harping on her experience don't understand is that this was a PURE pick based on strength of character....great pick, she is fantastic, and America will love her.

Posted by: daman1 | August 29, 2008 2:35 PM | Report abuse

There go Democrats. A community-organizing man with zero executive experience is good enough to become the President of United States but a Governor who happens to be a woman is too unqualified.
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Palin being a woman has nothing to do with it. Just look at the 18 million people who voted for Clinton.

McCain looked over many people who have much more experience than Palin. Palin was mayor of a city of 8000 and then governor for less than 2 years. Obama was a senator of a large state for 7 years, and then a US senator for a couple years.

Obama during the primary has demonstrated what he can do and who he is.

But who knows. Hopfully Palin will also prove herself "ready on day one". I really hope so because otherwise we might end up with another presidential fiasco.

On the other hand, with Biden I don't think we run that risk.

Posted by: EL | August 29, 2008 2:35 PM | Report abuse

WRONG. You misunderstand...we are voting AGAINST Obama.

You can fool yourself any way you want and tell yourself whatever. If you pull the lever for McCain, you are supporting overturning Roe vs Wade and ignoring everything else Hillary stood for. In your mind being vindictive towards Obama will"punish" the country. Clearly you never truly understood what Hillary fought for and voting for McCain will set back feminism for decades. Tread at your own peril.
A Hillary supporter..

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 2:35 PM | Report abuse

Awesome pick

Posted by: McCain/Palin | August 29, 2008 2:34 PM | Report abuse

Trust me, people, this is not a wise choice. If McCain were a couple decades younger, maybe, one can seriously wonder if Sarah even has a passport. There is nothing in her resume to indicate she is ready.

I live in the famous town of "Nowhere", home to the bridge that dos not exist. She rightly nixed it, but out my window I see a $40 million road leading to the bridge with no access! She refused to nix that, so now I look across the channel at a road -- new pavement and guard rails, yet more likely to se bears on it than cars. There is always more to the story, but even die-hard Republicans are shaking there heads at this.

Score the judgment round to Obama.

Posted by: Your Man in Ketchikan | August 29, 2008 2:34 PM | Report abuse

McCain could have pick Bin laden as his VP and most whites would still vote for him. Let's be real people no Black man will ever be president of this country. And that's just the way it is.

Posted by: A realist | August 29, 2008 2:34 PM | Report abuse

sitiowa-

I think Catherine's point is obvious. Obama has a mind to consider the big picture, so he can better formulate strategy. McCain is used to taking orders from generals and doesn't have a mind for strategy. Therefore generals, who take orders from the president, would prefer taking orders from someone who can develop a better strategy. This would be Obama. I think generals, many who have been outspoken against GW Bush, would welcome taking orders from somebody with intelligence. Again, this would be Obama.

Also, please refrain from personal attacks: "juvenile argument"

Posted by: msreason | August 29, 2008 2:34 PM | Report abuse

The Palin choice indicates that McCain has made a strategic decision that the election cannot be won with an argument relying mainly on experience. It didn't work for Hillary after all.

He agrees that it is a "change" election. Therefore, he needs to "rebrand" himself, once again, as a "maverick." But he can't afford to alienate the conservatives in his party. Choosing Palin offers a maverick with impeccable conservative credentials and the choice reinforces McCain's own reputation for daring and original decisions.

In addition, she offers the possibility of "peeling off" some women voters as Howard Wolfson said. McCain is targeting blue collar and Catholic women with the Palin choice. Many of these women have much more in common with Palin than with Hillary after all.

Finally, McCain still can cite an experience difference as a minor theme. A relatively inexperienced VP is not the same thing as a relatively inexperienced Presidential candidate after all -- even considering McCain's age.

I imagine that the Republican convention next week will sound the "maverick" theme strongly to begin to lay out this strategy. The Dems crowing about the loss of the experience issue are beind the curve, I suspect.

Posted by: pwood | August 29, 2008 2:33 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: scrivener | August 29, 2008 2:33 PM | Report abuse

I don't know who Palin is, but I'm sure McCain's base--the MSM--will promote her 24/7 in a very positive way, completely ignoring that she's under criminal investigation.

Overall, she seems to have a great backstory, but she doesn't stand for the same things Hillary stood for. Hillary was pro-choice, as one example. If Hillary's disgruntled supporters are going to vote for Palin, they didn't believe in what Hillary stood for at all.

The good thing for Democrats is that the Republicans can no longer play the lack-of-experience card. Now the real question becomes: do voters want a woman in the White House when McCain drops dead or do they want a black man in the White House?

Posted by: Seneca | August 29, 2008 2:33 PM | Report abuse

"is prepared to take on the job from day 1."


If that's your stance don't vote for Barry the rockstar.

Posted by: 1123 | August 29, 2008 2:32 PM | Report abuse

you can't not balance the Alaska budget. not even a dem could spend all the oil money, even without an income tax. all they do is figure out how much to spend and how much of what's left to give back to the residents.

from the PTA to a heartbeat from the presidency in months? she's right of McCain, not an independent. caved to el Rushbo. and McCain, who thinks so much of women that he told a biker convention a month ago that he should have had Cindy enter the topless beauty contest, picks another beauty queen and thinks women will vote for him because she's a woman even though she is against everything Hillary was for? how dumb does he think women are? seems pretty clear he thinks women are just to look at.

Posted by: JoeT | August 29, 2008 2:32 PM | Report abuse

MOSCOW, Aug. 29 -- Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin said Thursday that he had reason to think U.S. personnel were in the combat zone during the recent war in Georgia, adding that if confirmed, their presence suggested "someone in the United States" provoked the conflict to help one of the candidates in the American presidential race.

In Putin's first extended remarks defending Russia's military intervention in Georgia, which has drawn international condemnation, he blamed the Bush administration for failing to stop Georgian leaders from launching the Aug. 7 attack on the breakaway province of South Ossetia that sparked the war.

Speaking on CNN, Putin argued that the U.S. policy of training and supplying weapons to the Georgian army had emboldened the country to abandon long-standing negotiations over the future of South Ossetia and to try instead to seize the region by force, an assault that resulted in the deaths of Russian soldiers stationed there as peacekeepers.

Putin suggested that U.S. military advisers were working with Georgian forces that clashed with the Russian army, a prospect he described as "very dangerous."

"Even during the Cold War, during the harsh confrontation between the Soviet Union and the United States, we always avoided direct clashes between our civilians, even more so between our military personnel," he said in the interview, portions of which were also broadcast on Russian national television. "Ordinary experts, even if they teach military affairs, should not do so in combat zones, but in training areas and training centers," he added.

Putin said he based his assertions on information provided to him by the Russian military, but he offered no evidence and cautioned that his "suspicions" required further confirmation.

Earlier in the day, a senior Russian military official said at a news briefing that Russian troops had recovered an American passport in the rubble of a village near the South Ossetian capital of Tskhinvali, where a Georgian special forces unit had been based during the war.

"What was the purpose of that gentleman being among the special forces, and what is he doing today, I so far cannot answer," said Col. Gen. Anatoly Nogovitsyn, deputy chief of the general staff, holding up an enlarged color photocopy of the passport. He identified its owner as Michael Lee White, a resident of Houston, born in 1967, state-owned Vesti television reported.

Posted by: angriestdogintheworld | August 29, 2008 2:32 PM | Report abuse

Navy pilot John Sidney D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain III should have never been allowed to graduate from the U.S. Navy flight school. He was a below average student and a lousy pilot. Had his father and grandfather not been famous four star U.S. Navy admirals, D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain III would have never been allowed in the cockpit of a military aircraft.

His father John S. "Junior" McCain was commander of U.S. forces in Europe later becoming commander of American forces in Vietnam while D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain III was being held prisoner of war. D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain III's grandfather John S. McCain, Sr. commanded naval aviation at the Battle of Okinawa in 1945.

During his relative short stunt on flight status, D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain III lost five U.S. Navy aircraft, four in accidents and one in combat.

D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain III lost jet number one in 1958 when he plunged into Corpus Christi Bay while practicing landings. He was knocked unconscious by the impact coming to as the plane settled to the bottom.

D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain's second crash occurred while he was deployed in the Mediterranean. Flying too low over the Iberian Peninsula, he took out some power lines which led to a spate of newspaper stories in which he was predictably identified as the son of an admiral."

D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain's third crash three occurred when he was returning from flying a Navy trainer solo to Philadelphia for an Army-Navy football game.

D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain's fourth aircraft loss occurred July 29, 1967, soon after he was assigned to the USS Forrestal as an A-4 Skyhawk pilot. While seated in the cockpit of his aircraft waiting his turn for takeoff, an accidently fired rocket slammed into D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain's plane. He escaped from the burning aircraft, but the explosions that followed killed 134 sailors, destroyed at least 20 aircraft, and threatened to sink the ship.

D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain's fifth loss happened during his 23rd mission over North Vietnam on Oct. 26, 1967, when D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain's A-4 Skyhawk was shot down by a surface-to-air missile. D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain ejected from the plane breaking both arms and a leg in the process and subsequently parachuted into Truc Bach Lake near Hanoi.

"Demands for military information were accompanied by threats to terminate my medical treatment if I [D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain] did not cooperate. Eventually, I gave them my ship's name and squadron number, and confirmed that my target had been the power plant."

When the communist learned that D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain's father was Admiral John S. McCain, Jr., the soon-to-be commander of all U.S. Forces in the Pacific, he was rushed to Gai Lam military hospital.

The communist Vietnamese figured, because POW D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain's father was of such high military rank, that he was of royalty or the governing circle. Thereafter the communist bragged that they had captured "the crown prince."

For 23 combat missions (an estimated 20 hours over enemy territory), the U.S. Navy awarded D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain a Silver Star, a Legion of Merit for Valor, a Distinguished Flying Cross, three Bronze Stars, two Commendation medals plus two Purple Hearts and a dozen service medals.

D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain had roughly 20 hours in combat. Since D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain got 28 medals, that equals out to a medal-and-a-half for each hour he spent in combat. There were infantry guys -- grunts on the ground -- who had more than 7,000 hours in combat where I'm sure a prison cell would have looked pretty good to them by comparison. The question really is how many guys got that number of medals for not being shot down.

D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain has been an unchecked master at manipulating an overly friendly and biased news media. The former POW turned Congressman, turned U.S. Senator, has managed to gloss over his failures as a pilot and collaborations with the enemy by exaggerating his military service and lying about his feats of heroism.

D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain has sprouted a halo and wings to become America's POW-hero presidential candidate.

Former naval officer and the owner of an OOIIILLLL-trading company that inked defense contracts worth $1 billion is the modern presidential money man. The law forbids high-level supporters from writing huge checks, but with help from friends in the Middle East D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain is receiving large donations.

Posted by: GOP Republican Get Rich Quick By Selling America | August 29, 2008 2:32 PM | Report abuse

The tabloids will have a field day with this bimbo. Beauty queen, druggie, all we need now are the nude pictures that some old boyfriend has lawing around.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 2:24 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 2:32 PM | Report abuse

Since nearly all of Alaska's State money comes from Oil and sin Taxes, any government who didn't balance the budget when the price of oil doubled during her term should be shot, so that isn't much of an accomplishment. Next someone will give her credit for the lack of Hurricanes, fire ants or tornados in her home state.

Posted by: Muddy | August 29, 2008 2:31 PM | Report abuse

"Hey mmark, can you tell us where it is we can find this quote that you allege is attributable to Sen Obama?"

There was that memo from the Obama camp telling the press that Bill Clinton's comments in SC were "Playing the Race Card". Of course CNN and MSNBC hammered away at that one. No it did not come directly from Obama, but from his campaign. That is how he plays it.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 2:31 PM | Report abuse

So, does anybody remember the 'memorable and historical event' that occurred yesterday? For the first time in history ... what?

Posted by: Caronte | August 29, 2008 2:31 PM | Report abuse

How come I am not "WOWED" by Obamas "STAR" appeal? Because I've watched my country get embarressead by a dunce for the last 8.THEY DO NOT DESERVE A SECOND CHANCE. I voted for Reagan, Big Bush, and Clinton, and I am a registered Democrat. They lied, and if you want to reward them then go ahead. I hope he (Obama) gets elected out of SPITE!
He ran a better campaign than the Clintons (so get over it), is motivating and mobilizing people to vote for change (so what it's glitzy), and he will surround himself with capable people. Experiance? G Dub had all the experiance people in his cabinet and they all SCREWED UP the mission in IRAQ. They tried to fix it on the fly. No, SPITE..I want to see his chesire cat smug grin on TV every night to remind America of how UNCHRISTIAN, RACIST, STUPID, UNREAD, TV FAT and UNREALITY SHOW(ED)), FOX NEWS BLIND, and did I say HYPICRITICAL we are. Plese God, PLEASE do it...forgive my spite...

Posted by: walterrock | August 29, 2008 2:31 PM | Report abuse

OK. I'm still waiting for someone to tell me exactly HOW it is that Obama disrespected HRC during the primary!
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Yet another example of projection.

PG

Posted by: PeixeGato | August 29, 2008 2:24 PM
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Yeah, Procter Gamble, calling her a racist was no disrespect at all.

Yet another example of Obama arrogance and obtuseness.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 2:31 PM | Report abuse

"Please make a point as to why Obama would be more favorable choice of the generals over McCain."

You seem to be laboring under the false impression that "the generals" are excited about seeing a red-faced maximalist response to every international crisis that presents itself. If you had any experience with "the generals", you'd know almost all of them have a much more nuanced view of foreign policy.

Oh, and one other thing, just in case you're unclear: we don't live in Pakistan, so mollifying some ruling military junta is not the single greatest factor in our politics.

Your welcome.

Posted by: ibc | August 29, 2008 2:30 PM | Report abuse

Maybe I'm missing something, but doesn't the Governor of Alaska simply print oil revenue royalty checks for their 670,000 citizens? This underscores the Democrat's message that McCain just doesn't get it: America is faced with real threats that are neither addressed nor taken seriously by this pick. Thanks, but no thanks!

Posted by: Steve in DC | August 29, 2008 2:30 PM | Report abuse

I will vote for the President who:

A.)vows to balance the budget
B.)cracks down on illegals without amnesty programs,and builds the fence.
C.)has a economic plan that deals with the present economic disaster first BEFORE implementing new multi-billion dollar budget busting new programs.
D.)seriously includes an experienced woman on the ticket. You can't talk womens issues without a woman on the ticket.


Haven't seen any of these ideas in either Obama or McCain.
Any adults out there? They still seem to be missing in the '08 election.

Posted by: Cheryl | August 29, 2008 2:30 PM | Report abuse

Bill Burton, a spokesman for the Obama campaign, said in a statement. “Governor Palin shares John McCain’s commitment to overturning Roe v. Wade, the agenda of Big Oil and continuing George Bush’s failed economic policies — that’s not the change we need, it’s just more of the same.”


Well, at least she'll draw attention AWAY from all the rethugs practicing their toe-tapping in the mens rooms at the minneapolis airport!

Posted by: Magoo equals Bitterness and Hate | August 29, 2008 2:30 PM | Report abuse

McCain's running mate is a disaster in the making. People don't know her and will be tagged as inexperienced. He could have a better chance had he picked Romney. McCain is old and granting that he's elected to office and something bad happen to him, we will be left with inexperienced commander in chief. He's throwing his chances in November and what an idiot!!!

Posted by: danec | August 29, 2008 2:30 PM | Report abuse

"Why do all you Libs think that just because she is a woman it is a play for Hillary's supporters? Isn't that in itself sexist thinking and assumes if she is a woman she COULDN'T have any other qualifications? You are being sexist yourselves. Illogical."

Because it's true! There are at least a dozen better-qualified men who were vetted for the job. Picking a woman of Palin's experience proves that all he (they) wanted was the XX-chromosome. The proof? If you omitted gender-related pronouns and simply repeated Palin's history, that person would not have gotten a second look. It's only when you add the "shes" and the "hers" that she becomes valuable.

Now she knows how it feels to be a token and they know how it feels to be passed over by a less-qualified candidate.

Posted by: deeppeace | August 29, 2008 2:30 PM | Report abuse

"If any of you bitter, hopeless DEMS want to know how much buzz this VP pick is generating the after "I have a dream 2", just hit the page down button on your computer!!!"

Yeah, the media collectively scratching their heads going WTF???? Way to win a news cycle and lose an election.

Posted by: kreuz_missile | August 29, 2008 2:29 PM | Report abuse

McCain has got to know that he's done. Finished. That the Rovian attack engine doesn't have a prayer in Hell of beating Obama/Biden.

If this gal was Governor of Ohio or Pennsylvania, it might make sense.

Governor of Alaska ??? No way.

This is a selection based on where the GOP will stand AFTER THE ELECTION.

McCain and Rove want the GOP to be an ideological organization. That is all. They want ownership, particularly Rove, by driving out everybody sane/pragmatic/sensible.

Good luck, boys..............

Anybody want to run for office as a GOPper and win outside of The South, they're going to have to get away from oil money, away from Rove, away from this disaster in the making.

That will be damn hard, at least for a decade or so. Till Rove pukes out and goes to prison.

Posted by: Carl | August 29, 2008 2:29 PM | Report abuse

I don't care if our leaders are young or old; black or white; male or female; or have some other similar characteristcs to me.

At the end of the day, I want our leaders to deal with the economy, climate change, our wars, and all the other issues that plague America today. These issues have nothing to do with their body; why do so many people make that so important to them?

My ideal candidate is not someone that shares my life experiences, but rather is prepared to take on the job from day 1.

For those that make this an issue, I hope you don't pick your doctors and dentists the same way.

Posted by: me | August 29, 2008 2:29 PM | Report abuse

I am stunned. Sarah might be a great choice for John winning the election, although I cannot see it now. We have had some terrible, not-ready-to-be-president vice presidents, and everything I know of her now suggests she would likely fall into this category. Note the last ex-governor (also unknown) to be elected vice president: Spiro Agnew.

Sarah should give the GOP a "real person" face and a 21st century face to add to their campaign, to say nothing of a woman's face. That will be nice, but to have it John gives up much of his argument about "America first," judgment, and experience.

His choice of a woman looks reactionary and opportunistic. Plus, it looks as if he could find no choice who matched up to Barack's choice of Senator Biden. I so much question the judgment John has demonstrated in his first major decision as a presidential nominee.

Posted by: Byron | August 29, 2008 2:29 PM | Report abuse

I am sorry but she will be another Eagleton. I would be surprised they don't replace her before the election.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 2:28 PM | Report abuse

"A 5.625% interest rate is well with the range of rates offered at the time."

he wouldn't have qualified for the loan by himself, so he got a little help from the neighbor.

Unfortunately, the neighbor was...

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 2:28 PM | Report abuse

The election is over. This was a brilliant choice.

Posted by: Ken P. | August 29, 2008 2:28 PM | Report abuse

The reason we think it is a play for Hillary's supporters is that Palin said so. Did you listen to her at the press conference? And being the recent governor of a state with fewer than 1 million people hardly qualifies as great experience, whatever kind of job she has done.

daman1 said:
"Why do all you Libs think that just because she is a woman it is a play for Hillary's supporters? Isn't that in itself sexist thinking and assumes if she is a woman she COULDN'T have any other qualifications? You are being sexist yourselves. Illogical."

Posted by: LeslieM | August 29, 2008 2:28 PM | Report abuse

Amazing. Not the choice, but the giant clusterf*ck of bloggers here who have nothing to do but pander to their own crappy views. McCain is obviously trying to shore up the conservatives. All of the other choices for him to choose from had some tic that wouldn't fly... pro choice, too whatever. She's touted to be a maverick and conservative. Why this selection puzzles people is beyond me.

The no experience issue isn't a question for the VP, it's a question for the President. The 2nd in command doesn't have to be a rocket scientist, but the 1st in command needs to have SOME experience. She at least raised 5 kids, and that's tougher than being a CEO in most companies, at least in my book. I'd like to see Mr Change handle 5 kids and a job. Oh wait, liberals don't need to work, they expect the govenrment to pay for everything. Think about THAT when Obama raises taxes (which has already promised to do). Free healthcare isn't going to come out of Exxon's pocket. Speaking of big oil, when Obama taxes the hell out of them, where are they going to get the money? By raising gas prices to pay for it. Way to go genius.

I'm not happy with McCain, but I'd rather we keep the guy who keeps terrorists out (read: McCain, who has served our country honorably) than vote for the guy that the terrorists want in (Barack Hussein Obama).

Posted by: declarationviolated | August 29, 2008 2:28 PM | Report abuse

I don't care if our leaders are young or old; black or white; male or female; or have some other similar characteristcs to me.

At the end of the day, I want our leaders to deal with the economy, climate change, our wars, and all the other issues that plague America today. These issues have nothing to do with their body; why do so many people make that so important to them?

My ideal candidate is not someone that shares my life experiences, but rather is prepared to take on the job from day 1.

For those that make this an issue, I hope you don't pick your doctors and dentists the same way.

Posted by: me | August 29, 2008 2:27 PM | Report abuse

This allows McCain to pick up all the Hillary voters who are White, Anti-gay, Anti-Choice and Anti-environment in potential swing states.

For that McCain undermined his entire inexperienced attack line; opened up questions about his age as related to the part-time mayor's readiness; and opened up new questions about his ability to find a running mate of comparable stature to Biden.

Happy Day for Obama.

Posted by: Pabarrett | August 29, 2008 2:27 PM | Report abuse

See? No one does read these posts. Alaska - a state with so much oil money that there's no income or sales tax, and the government ends up giving money away to the citizens. This year's check was $1,200. One of the few places in the world where the government pays the citizens.

http://www.adn.com/news/alaska/story/485115.html

--"Give me a freaking break...
Sarah Palin is more experienced than Barack Obama to be President of the United States. She has executive experience, Obama's been a senator for 4 yrs. Some people commenting on this thread are obviously filled with disillusions.

Posted by: Ann Marie Curling | August 29, 2008 1:42 PM "--

Let not forget that she balanced the budget not once but TWICE.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 2:27 PM | Report abuse

At least McCains dick sucker is a women and not a cheney.

Posted by: 1-20-09 | August 29, 2008 2:27 PM | Report abuse

U.S. Presidents From Harvard Law
John Adams
John Quincy Adams
Rutherford Hayes
Theodore Roosevelt
Franklin Roosevelt
John Kennedy
Barack Obama

President and Harvard Law Scholar Barack Obama Contrast With D Student Undeservedly Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain


Growing Up

D Student Undeservedly Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain was privileged, given everything by both parents, and worked for nothing.


Irish-American and Harvard Law Scholar Barack Obama grew up poor, raised by his Irish-American single white mother and Irish-American white working class maternal grand parents. Irish-American and Harvard Law Scholar Barack Obama was given nothing and worked for everything.

Education

D Student Undeservedly Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain was a D student and graduated last in his class. D Student Undeservedly Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain and McBush Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire share failed academic records. He partied constantly and dependent on favor handouts from his high ranking father and grandfather. D Student Undeservedly Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain earned nothing on his own similar to McBush Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire. D Student Undeservedly Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain is also Internet illiterate which slows down his information processing capacity. Is this good for the country?


Irish-American and Harvard Law Scholar Barack Obama worked hard and became PRESIDENT OF THE HARVARD LAW REVIEW. Everything that Irish-American and Harvard Law Scholar Barack Obama accomplished he did on his own. Irish-American Barack Obama’s HARVARD Scholarship ranks among the best. Irish-American and Harvard Law Scholar Barack Obama’s hard work represents the American Dream.


Community Service

D Student Undeservedly Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain poor studies translated into poor performances in the military where he crashed several planes and recklessly endangered the lives of others. D Student Undeservedly Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain was never trusted by his colleagues nor loved by his peers. The highlight of D Student Undeservedly Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain’s career was getting shot down and becoming a prisoner. D Student Undeservedly Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain served his country by getting handouts from his guards. Getting handouts seems to be D Student Undeservedly Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain’s modem of operations. Will Undeservedly Rich McCain, who finished 894th out of 899 at the Naval Academy and who lost five jets, return competence to the White House? To lose one plane over Vietnam may be a heroic tragedy; to lose five planes here and there is carelessness.

Irish-American Barack Obama turned down large profits after graduating from HARVARD LAW to serve the community in Chicago where help was needed most. The community learned to trust and love Irish-American and Harvard Law Scholar Barack Obama for his dedication to public service.


Marriage

D Student Undeservedly Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain walked out on his family to chase a younger woman who was on drugs, embezzling money from her company, stealing, and facing criminal charges, until her privileged family saved her from trial. D Student Undeservedly Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain’s dysfunctional family represents chaos and lack of respect when he curses her in public.


Irish-American and Harvard Law Scholar Barack Obama married an intelligent IVY LEAGUE attorney and adores his beautiful young daughters. Irish-American and Harvard Law Scholar Barack Obama’s First Family represents what America is striving for. Irish-American and Harvard Law Scholar Barack Obama has always been surrounded by and still maintains a great respect for women (Irish mother, Irish grandmother, sister, wife, and two daughters). If anyone is in tune with and favors the betterment of working American women, then it’s Irish-American and Harvard Law Scholar Barack Obama.

International Diplomacy

The World wants no more chaotic McBush Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-D Student Undeservedly Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain.


The World loves Irish-American and Harvard Law Scholar Barack Obama and will follow America’s leadership behind Irish-American and Harvard Law Scholar Barack Obama.

If D Student Undeservedly Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain had to make another emergency landing on a deserted island with Irish-American and Harvard Law Scholar Barack Obama onboard as one of the passengers, then it is safe to say that D Student Undeservedly Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain would assume the role of Gilligan, while Irish-American and Harvard Law Scholar Barack Obama would assume the role of the professor.

Posted by: Harvard Law Obama vs. D Student McCan't | August 29, 2008 2:27 PM | Report abuse

"Palin’s pro-life and she’ll swing those hard-line Christian voters our way. Let’s pick her even if, basically, we’re one stroke or heart attack away from this woman becoming President."
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Adds a whole new perspective on the Supreme Court, huh?

Posted by: A woman not fooled | August 29, 2008 2:27 PM | Report abuse

The most importance decision a candidate has to make is finding a qualified replacement if the he/she cannot serve.
Yet another example of how Obama trumps McCain. Talk about pandering, but this is obvious and pathetic, ....
Sadly to a thinly veiled racist country,
it could work,
Another 4-8 years of ineptitude,
oy vey, I'm tired already ...

Posted by: ronmbo | August 29, 2008 2:27 PM | Report abuse

Is it lost on anyone that she is an admitted pot head?

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 2:05 PM

I doubt that will agitate any flower power liberals. Especially if your golden boy has done coke. It's probably turning California into a red state as we speak.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 2:27 PM | Report abuse

"do you really think Obama will get my vote after calling the Clintons racists? Obama's done, toast."

Hey mmark, can you tell us where it is we can find this quote that you allege is attributable to Sen Obama?

I won't hold my breath waiting.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 2:26 PM | Report abuse

DC


So what, she has a beautiful child.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 2:26 PM | Report abuse

we know Rezcko didn't help her to get a 'decent home'!
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A 5.625% interest rate is well with the range of rates offered at the time.

Posted by: EL | August 29, 2008 2:25 PM | Report abuse

I just spent the last hour reading the dems blogs, and of course they all think that McCain made a bad choice. What do you expect! They're scared as hell. and the readers are leaving comments letting them know how much. 80% of all the comments are positive for Palin.

Posted by: RetiredGrunt | August 29, 2008 2:25 PM | Report abuse

GOP Republican McCan'ts,

Do you have any interesting ideas to share?

Posted by: Caronte | August 29, 2008 2:25 PM | Report abuse

The tabloids will have a field day with this bimbo. Beauty queen, druggie, all we need now are the nude pictures that some old boyfriend has lawing around.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 2:24 PM | Report abuse

I haven't stopped laughing for the past hour.

Posted by: jatox | August 29, 2008 2:22 PM

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That's because you are joker, turd. Ha ha ha!

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 2:24 PM | Report abuse

OK. I'm still waiting for someone to tell me exactly HOW it is that Obama disrespected HRC during the primary!

If anything, he was FAR more gracious and respectful than any human being could expect him to be given the tactics that HRC used during the campaign.

Yet another example of projection.

PG

Posted by: PeixeGato | August 29, 2008 2:24 PM | Report abuse

Anonymous,

You were never in the US Army Infantry. If you were, you'd have more respect for what it means to be an American. You're just a two-bit racist NRA member.....

Posted by: timwayne | August 29, 2008 2:24 PM | Report abuse

do you really think Obama will get my vote after calling the Clintons racists? Obama's done, toast.

Posted by: mmark | August 29, 2008 2:24 PM | Report abuse

Palin on the office of Vice President:

“As for that V.P. talk all the time, I’ll tell you, I still can’t answer that question until somebody answers for me what is it exactly that the V.P. does."

Posted by: JT | August 29, 2008 2:23 PM | Report abuse

Democrats did it to Ferraro, did it to Hillary. Now watch them go after Palin. Yeah, rip her out fellas, you are pros at destroying women.

Posted by: Assassinating women | August 29, 2008 2:22 PM | Report abuse

I haven't stopped laughing for the past hour.

Posted by: jatox | August 29, 2008 2:22 PM | Report abuse

It seems obvious from his pick of Sarah Palin that McCain is making a serious play for the Eskimo vote.

Posted by: tbraton | August 29, 2008 2:21 PM | Report abuse

I am a lifelong Republican who is ashamed of my party and will vote for Barack Obama in November.

Posted by: garry2 | August 29, 2008 2:21 PM | Report abuse

"wake up people - hillary supporters hate obama and they will hand this electon to mccain...."

It could have been different. All Obama had to do was pick Hillary as VP. McCain has shown he has more chutzpah then Obama with that pick.

Posted by: hdimig | August 29, 2008 2:21 PM | Report abuse

Anonymous,

Don't be a moron, you Obscure Candidate wouldn't react to a bleacher! He is as dark as he looks!

Posted by: Caronte | August 29, 2008 2:21 PM | Report abuse

Barak Obama proved why November's presidential election will end in a 50-state sweep. John McCain has no chance. It's like George Bush climbing into the ring with Mike Tyson; one thundering left hook and the Crawford Caligula would be sprawled across the canvas. "No mas"! The same fate awaits the crabby senator from Arizona. The polls are skewed to look like there's a political horse-race going on. There isn't. It's a complete rout. There's one well-toned thoroughbred striding from venue to venue electrifying the ever-increasing throngs, and one doddering, old mare limping towards the glue-factory. Someone should put a stop to it before McCain gets hurt.

At the Victory Column in Berlin's Tiergarten, Obama extracted Old Glory from the burn-pile and gave Brand America a desperately needed shot of adrenaline. 200,000 ecstatic Germans jammed the streets in what turned out to be the political shindig of the year. Many of them were waving American flags and chanting, "Obama, Obama, Obama". It was like Jack Kennedy had risen from his moldy sepulcher and made his way across the pond for one last rousing ovation. Obama has the very same affect on crowds. Its a gift and he knows how to use it to great advantage.

"People of Berlin, people of the world, this is our moment, this is our time," Obama boomed. "I know my country has not perfected itself, we've made our share of mistakes and there are times when our actions around the world have not lived up to our best intentions. But the greatest danger of all is to allow new walls to divide us from one another."

What can we say about Obama's oratory skills that hasn't already been said? He is one of those unique characters who knows how to tap into the collective psyche and put them under his spell. He is the closest thing to a Pied Piper we've seen in the last half century. Whatever one thinks of his politics, his speeches are a welcome reprieve from the simian blabbering of President Dimwit.

"I speak to you not as a candidate for president, but as a citizen; a proud citizen of the United States and a fellow citizen of the world." (Roaring applause)

JOHN McCAIN: Maverick or Freak?
Have you taken a look at the crowds at a McCain event. Usually, there aren't any. Typically, there are more journalists and cameramen then people; and even they look bored. It's the truth. He generates no enthusiasm at all. None. He may be the most uninspiring, tedious, pure-vanilla candidate of all time; a complete dud. I challenge anyone to recite from memory anything John McCain has ever said in his 40 years in office. Time's up! When McCain begins to talk, its a signal for women to pull out the nail-files and for men to figure out how they're going to get out of cutting the lawn this week. Really. No one listens.

And the people that do manage to drag themselves to his speeches out of a sense of obligation are (you guessed it) scowling white guys with baseball caps pulled tightly over their ears or nearly-ambulatory Korea-era Vets who think the United Nations is a communist front-group that's planning to air-drop blue-helmets into Duluth to take over the United States. Tin-foil hats anyone?

Popularity and charisma, how does one survive in politics with neither. That's the question, and it may be the biggest mystery of McCain's candidacy. He's just not a likable guy. No one ever talks about hanging out and having a beer with John McCain, because they know that he might go "Jackie Chan" and start busting the place up. And he's utterly impossible to listen to. His high-pitched squeaky voice is about two octaves higher than a dog-whistle and twice as annoying. So how is he going to beat Obama. It's a total mismatch.

McCain is the perfect candidate for the GOP Republic party that has completely collapsed. He's like the "Jolly Roger" on the front of an iodine bottle; Brand X. In 2000, the Republican Party boasted it was the "party of ideas". What ideas? The Republican Party has never had ideas because the corporate mandarins and blue-blooded kleptocrats that run the party are suspicious of ideas, ideology, doctrine, philosophy or anything else that veers from their primary objectives of crushing the poor, despoiling the environment, carpet-bombing brown people wherever they may be, and enriching themselves. That's all they care about. The task of the right-wing think-tanks is to treat "war and tax cuts" like they're ideas. They're not. But war and tax cuts ARE the two foundation blocks of the Republican Party. There's nothing else; there never has been. Don't look for ideas; there aren't any. GOP Republican get rich quick by defrauding the American People, robbing the National Treasury, sending American jobs overseas, and raising the national debt.

Hold Bush, Cheney, Rice, and McCain accountable for the crimes they've committed during their time in office.

Obama is not a candidate; he's a phenomenon. Obama is an explosive, vital, charismatic politician. When he speaks people feel better about themselves and their country. And, they're more hopeful about the future, too. That's what makes him unbeatable.

McCain, on the other hand, is the perfect embodiment of his party; a rusty, broken-down hulk that's been stripped of its engine, its fenders and all its moving parts. Even the steering wheel is gone. It's a dead-loss; nothing is salvageable.

McCain is in way over his head. This election is going to be a real embarrassment for him. It's too bad. He should be back at the Phoenix Rest Home shooing kids off the front lawn instead of waiting for the ax to fall in November. It's a rotten way to end a career.

Posted by: GOP Republican McCan'ts | August 29, 2008 2:21 PM | Report abuse

A beauty contest runner-up...figues

Posted by: HM | August 29, 2008 2:21 PM | Report abuse

Wonderful events have come from small towns. Sarah has 5 children, one is autistic. Some of the comments here suggest that Sarah is not Pro Choice. There is a small town in the former communist Yugoslavia called Medjugorje. In the mid ‘80’s, while still under communist rule, there was a widely reported event occurring. The Mother of Jesus (who is Jewish, in case you didn’t know) appeared to six children. The communists arrested the kids and tortured them. The kids insisted that the Blessed Virgin was visiting them. Finally the communists gave up and built several large hotels to accommodate the 10,000,000 pilgrims who eventually visited this little village. If you read Wayne Wieble’s books on Medjugorje (Wayne is a Lutheran) you will be rewarded with an insight into how God works his wonders. One important message I took away from my study of Medjugorje was a comment by the Blessed Virgin, which was made in response to a question asked by one of the children. The child asked, “What is it we humans do that angers God the most”? Mary’s answer, “abortion”. Mary’s answer could have been much different, She could have said war, or mistreating our environment, etc. She didn’t, she said “abortion”. So if God is truly angered by abortion, how does he feel about people who vote for people who promote and protect abortion. I don’t have an answer for that, but I suspect we will find out on Judgment Day. I truly believe that God will reveal his feelings to us one day soon and many people will change their views on abortion, including Hilary Clinton. Meantime we should all pray that God has mercy on this country that He has so blessed with abundance.

Posted by: michaelspowell | August 29, 2008 2:21 PM | Report abuse

daman1 aid:
"Why do all you Libs think that just because she is a woman it is a play for Hillary's supporters? Isn't that in itself sexist thinking and assumes if she is a woman she COULDN'T have any other qualifications? You are being sexist yourselves. Illogical."

Posted by:

Posted by: LeslieM | August 29, 2008 2:21 PM | Report abuse

We Hillary supporters have been so disgusted by the way that the Dean/Brazile/Pelosi/Axelrod/Kerry cabal has treated us, that we are eyeing a 2012 presidency for Clinton. I will vote for McCain -- not because of the Palin announcement, but it certainly helps. Obama has not sought my vote, and McCain has.

Posted by: Hillaryin2012 | August 29, 2008 2:20 PM | Report abuse

"The Republicans did for America what Democrats did not. One day the Dems will get serious about winning elections. They just nominated a racist with paper thin credentials and enough baggage to bring down a Boeing 747. Obama doesn't deserve the Presidency because he didn't earn it; he scammed voters. Just another thug from the streets of Chicago."

Bill what type of racist crap is that? Explain exactly how Obama did not "earn" the presidential nomination? He won more votes than any other nominees. Which last I checked was the barometer for who wins. Is he a "thug from Chicago" because he's Black or do you know something the GOP does not? If you do, I'm sure they would love to get your help right about now. Obama (like him or not) is a lot of things, but a thug? You were really pulling that one from your backside weren't you?

Posted by: JW | August 29, 2008 2:20 PM | Report abuse

La política es una lotería. Algunos luchan toda la vida y no llegan otros están en el momento oportuno y les ríe la fortuna.

Posted by: jose siebe | August 29, 2008 2:19 PM | Report abuse

any woman will do ?

Posted by: oberst | August 29, 2008 2:15 PM

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There go Democrats. A community-organizing man with zero executive experience is good enough to become the President of United States but a Governor who happens to be a woman is too unqualified.

WOW. What a bunch of woman haters. Hillary knows. Ferraro knows. Now it is time for Republicans to find out.

Posted by: Misogynistic Democrats | August 29, 2008 2:19 PM | Report abuse

Republicans like state governors. That was probably a driving force in the choice of Palin.

Posted by: John C | August 29, 2008 2:19 PM | Report abuse

wake up people - hillary supporters hate obama and they will hand this electon to mccain....

Posted by: hillary | August 29, 2008 2:19 PM | Report abuse

That was a desperate move. Gotta give it to him though. GOP's always one step behind the Dems in setting standards.

Posted by: mjo757 | August 29, 2008 2:18 PM | Report abuse

Reading through these posts, there are still far far too many posts that are nothing but blatant racism.....

I hate to say it, but this will be the real deciding factor in this election. Mr. McSame is old, undynamic, and has sold out to the Republican machine that brought us George W Bush and the politics of hate and division, and Mss Alaska runner-up is not going to win over too many people who actually have a brain (great line btw, big DECK, about transitioning from "how do we keep the bears out of the town dump" to "should I push the red button" in a two-year period). The track record of Bush and the Republican Party is beyond abysmal, and at some point most thinking people would be expected to vote their self-interest - we saw this in '92 with Clinton vs. Bush the elder. However, the big thing still influencing a lot of people in this election, including many of the most virulent anti-Obama bloggers here, is RACISM. This is a shame and diminishes us all as Americans.....

Posted by: timwayne | August 29, 2008 2:18 PM | Report abuse

Pros:

- A little bit the "history-making" buzz that McCain otherwise wouldn't have.
- Young.
- Attractive (looks count).

Cons:

- Totally undercuts McCain's main and most successful line of attack against Obama.
- Depending on how it plays in the media, it could come to be seen as extremely cynical.

Posted by: SC | August 29, 2008 2:18 PM | Report abuse

A woman! GREAT!
A conservative woman! GREAT!
A smart, conservative woman! GREAT!
A fiscally responsible, conservative, woman! GREAT!

WOW! Wonderful news!

Posted by: Jim M | August 29, 2008 2:17 PM | Report abuse

Believe me she is using right now. Have you ever been to Alaska? They do what they want up there. I will make a bet the Enquire is already on their way. It;s a story like it or not and it will have nothing to do with the campaign. It will be the tabloids.

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Anonymous,

Don't go there because the Pothead candidate is not clean either and as far as we know Rezcko didn't help her to get a 'decent home'!

Posted by: Caronte | August 29, 2008 2:14 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 2:17 PM | Report abuse

At the risk of being thrown out of here, I'll say it: McThuselah's military 'experience' consists of getting shot down three times and being the admiral's son. Where does it say anywhere in his bio that he made rational decisions, made tough decisions, or ever, ever looked for a non-military solution to a problem?

When the only tool you own is a hammer, every problem is a nail. I don't trust him to approach 21st-century problems sanely.

Posted by: deeppeace | August 29, 2008 2:17 PM | Report abuse

no rational hillary supporter is going to vote for mccain because he picked a pro-life, lifetime NRA member for his running mate.

65 percent of Alaska's land is under the control of the federal government. More than half the Alaskan population lives in Anchorage. How is being governor like running your own country? It's more like being mayor of a big city.

Posted by: b | August 29, 2008 2:16 PM | Report abuse

Absolute genius

Posted by: 455 | August 29, 2008 2:16 PM | Report abuse

Editing of Wikipedia on Palin by GOP to get her more inline.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sarah_Palin&diff=235027454&oldid=235027386

Before:
"Palin refused to let the results of prenatal genetic testing change her decision to have the baby. "I'm looking at him right now, and I see perfection," Palin said. "Yeah, he has an extra chromosome. I keep thinking, in our world, what is normal and what is perfect?"

After:
"Her decision to have the baby after prenatal genetic testing revealed he had the disease resulted in much admiration from the pro-life"

More here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sarah_Palin&action=history

Posted by: DC | August 29, 2008 2:16 PM | Report abuse

"... god help us if mccain gets the gig and dies...so much for putting country before winning an election. ..."

God helped us already jazzgrrrl25. This pick killed whatever chances McCain had of winning the election. His contributors should be asking for their money back.

Posted by: synykyl | August 29, 2008 2:16 PM | Report abuse

No one's talking about the fact that Biden has been in wash 4ever - hows that considered "change"? spin on both sides on all issues. it comes down to who is the better liar and how dumb the people are in the 5 states where voting actually matters in this country.

Posted by: Go Repub's | August 29, 2008 2:16 PM | Report abuse

"I find it hard to believe all these anonymous internet Hilary supporters now jumping for joy over Palin. Other than anatomy, what do they have in common?"

Sorry. It is an FU vote to Obama. Obama disrespected Hillary and now it is time for an FU vote. I am very tempted myself. I will probably still write in HRC.

Posted by: hdimig | August 29, 2008 2:16 PM | Report abuse

I find it hard to believe all these anonymous internet Hilary supporters now jumping for joy over Palin. Other than anatomy, what do they have in common?

Posted by: TK | August 29, 2008 2:08 PM

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Erm, they are both mothers and daughters and sisters who had to fight against the male dominated society to climb to the top of the political ladder. Or is that too hard a thing to grasp for your misogyny, Total Krap?

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 2:15 PM | Report abuse

Game! Set! Match!

Obama '08!

Posted by: All-Mi-T | August 29, 2008 2:15 PM | Report abuse

I don't care if our leaders are young or old; black or white; male or female; or have some other similar characteristcs to me.

At the end of the day, I want our leaders to deal with the economy, climate change, our wars, and all the other issues that plague America today. These issues have nothing to do with their body; why do so many people make that so important to them?

My ideal candidate is not someone that shares my life experiences, but rather is prepared to take on the job from day 1.

For those that make this an issue, I hope you don't pick your doctors and dentists the same way.

Posted by: me | August 29, 2008 2:15 PM | Report abuse

any woman will do ?

Posted by: oberst | August 29, 2008 2:15 PM | Report abuse

Palin was a city council person and then mayor of Wasilla, AK, a little rural village of 8,000.

She's spent a year and a half as Governor of the 4th smallest state in the U.S.

And that's it? That's it?!?!

She has less national security experience than most Starbucks employees. At least they know a half dozen words in Italian.

She makes Ned Flanders from the Simpsons look worldly.

This is a ridiculous, ridiculous pick.

Posted by: bluto | August 29, 2008 2:14 PM | Report abuse

Now that we know she is a drug user, can we expect to see the Enquire track down her supplier? I think it is a lock, who is going to turn down what the Enquire will pay them.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 2:14 PM | Report abuse

"On the downside, he can't really attack Obama on inexperience"

He doesn't have to it's plain as the nose on your face.

She has just as much as Barry, and she's not running for President!

Posted by: 23fff | August 29, 2008 2:14 PM | Report abuse

Smart pick, you have to give it to Republican's ability to play politics even though they cannot run the country when they win. First, in an era where Bush is a four-letter word, they go with the only perceived national anti-Bush pol with solid foreign policy credentials (the only real issue in this election that Republicans poll better then the Democrats). Then, after the Democrats engage in civil warfare and tick off a ton of female supporters, the Republicans pick a woman VP candidate who can make history if she wins. Here is what Palin gives the Republicans:

*Attractive to female voters (keep in mind many whom are married to their relatively more-conservative husbands)
*Improves standing with evangelical conservatives (who were wavering in support and critically needed)
*Liked by fiscal conservatives (who were turned off by the fiscal fiasco of Bush-Cheney)
*Eclipses Democrat convention
*Fits into maverick-reformer McCain narrative
*Attacks on Palin's inexperience + McCain's 72 years of age triggers problematic counter-arguments like: (a) Obama-Binden it's probably a net-loss, (b) McCain-Palin can counter that if Palin becomes President she will select a strong foreign policy VP...like Obama, and (c) Democrats really just hate the elderly -- whose turnout rates are historically higher then the young

In short, if Palin can deliver a good stump speech and out-debates Biden or makes him look like a jerk, then this was a really smart move by the Republicans.

Posted by: analyst | August 29, 2008 2:14 PM | Report abuse

Anonymous,

Don't go there because the Pothead candidate is not clean either and as far as we know Rezcko didn't help her to get a 'decent home'!

Posted by: Caronte | August 29, 2008 2:14 PM | Report abuse

Is it lost on anyone that she is an admitted pot head?

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 2:05 PM

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Its not lost, but its countered by Bama talking about his drug use and drinking for 45 minutes in his bokks-on-tape narrated in his own voice, and Biden's admission of soliciting a Priest for oral sex at St. Bernatdett's when he was an alter boy.

Posted by: this is fun -- Rev. Jackson | August 29, 2008 2:13 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin: The GOP Affirmative Action Candidate. Isn't this the party thar rails against quotos and affirmative actions? What is this? There is NO comparison to Senator Obama! Unlike Palin, he earned the nomination by putting together the most phenomenal political operation in history. Sarah Palin is being given this opportunity over far more qualified candidates for no other reason than she's a woman. And yet again they are giving McCain and the GOP a pass for their hypocrisy!

Posted by: Dawn | August 29, 2008 2:13 PM | Report abuse

Hmmm, I wonder how long it will take for women to realize that a family woman VP in the Republican party would do more to permanently transform the Republican party's platform for woman than anything a Democrat could do?

I mean, it's one thing to have Democrats playing phony lip service to womens' rights. It's another thing to have a Republican woman at the top of the Republican party leadership.

Palin as a female Republican VP can do more to advance the status and interests of women in the U.S. by leading the Republican party, than a Democratic woman President could do, with Republican base blocking and ignoring the Democrat.

I hope they don't figure this out...

Posted by: Barack Obama's Conscience | August 29, 2008 2:13 PM | Report abuse

The sole reason McCain picked Palin is the fact that she said yes. Everyone else, even Romney, can see that he's a loser no matter who the veep is and that they will sink with him into oblivion should they join his ticket.

Posted by: Alvin | August 29, 2008 2:13 PM | Report abuse

this is awesome.
McCain is an idiot. A really dumb guy. What judgment? President Palin. I don't think so.
No way. He looses. This just shows he's not as smart as would be indicated by the positions he's held. Obama chose the best option, Biden, McCain chose someone who is actually not qualified to be president, negating their main argument against Obama.
McCain is a old yellow toothed senile fool and he is going to get destroyed. This election will not be close no matter how hard the media tries to prop up McCain he's by far and away the worse candidate and it's not even close.

Posted by: Jesse | August 29, 2008 2:13 PM | Report abuse

Brilliant short-term move: Obama's amazing extravaganza is out of the headlines in less than 12 hours and everybody is talking about the Republicans. Really brilliant. But in the long term? Slightly insane.

Posted by: Libby | August 29, 2008 2:13 PM | Report abuse

GREAT GREAT GREAT Selection!!!!!!

True and genuine change now rests completely with the Republican ticket! The VP choice is not some old tired retread trial lawyer like biden. But new forward thinking and in touch with the people! GREAT! Obamination is in trouble.

Posted by: Jim M. | August 29, 2008 2:13 PM | Report abuse

"neophyte politician" Like Obama????
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Obama has 7 years in the Illinois Senate. Palin is Governor for less than 2 years, and before that she was the mayor of 5000-8000.

Who knows, perhaps Palin will turn out to be as knowledgable and wise as Obama. We should at least give her a chance.

But if Palin doesn't measure up (and from what I've read she doesn't) then 72-yr old McCain who's survived 4 bouts of cancer will have placed an incompetent vice president a heart beat away from the presidency.

If you consider the average male's life expectancy in the United States, in a 2-term Republican administration Palin is statistically guaranteed to become president.


Posted by: EL | August 29, 2008 2:13 PM | Report abuse

So now Hillary gets to prove she meant she'll support Obama by doing what Obama and Biden may find it hard to do... rip Palin to shreds. Go to it, Hill.

BTW, anybody remember the last sitting governor surprisingly chosen to be a running mate who was only two years removed from city council (actually county board, if I recall correctly...)? Spiro Agnew! Maybe the worst VP of the 20th century, picked as a sop to the far right that (believe it or not) didn't trust Nixon. And Agnew was under investigations, just like Palin is now.... Is there another "nolo contendere" in a VP's future?

Posted by: Tom | August 29, 2008 2:12 PM | Report abuse

On the downside, he can't really attack Obama on inexperience when he has a VP candidate who has no national experience - and he may look even older compared to the sprightly Palin..

Posted by: Remus (infidelsshiver) | August 29, 2008 2:12 PM | Report abuse

There doesn't seem to be much comment on Palin's surprising accomplishment that got her the VP nod: she got the contract with TransCanada done to build the natural gas pipeline from the Northern Slope to the Lower 48. It will be the biggest project of it's kind ever to be undertaken in the continent, and it will be completed in 10 years. Obama mentioned energy independence from the middle east in 10 years last night; Palin's pipeline practically does that.

What's odd here is that while members of the Congress (Obama, McCain, and Biden included) were busy talking about energy policy and strategies to lower gas prices, Palin had already made energy policy!

As a likely (biracial male) voter leaning strongly in favor of Obama (I would vote for him today), I was still hopeful whoever won the election might consider her to head DOE because of her role in ethics and her tenacity to get things accomplished. In regards to energy policy, this woman is more experienced and more qualified than any of the Senate boys.

I know she also planned to make education and transportation a focus of her term. If I like what she's done there, as much as I regret saying this, I might be an undecided voter again. I hate this. If McCain picks Romney, Liebermann, or Pawlenty, it's an easy choice for me to vote for Obama. But now... I don't know.

Posted by: Terry | August 29, 2008 2:11 PM | Report abuse

She is an admitted drug user. Was she asked if she is still using? It is going to come up and as anyone knows, she lives up there in the middle of nowhere where people do as they please. I hope a reported with the nerve asks her the drug Question.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 2:09 PM
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If any of you bitter, hopeless DEMS want to know how much buzz this VP pick is generating the after "I have a dream 2", just hit the page down button on your computer!!!

Posted by: I Have A Scream -- YEEEEEEEAHHHHH -- Chairman Dean | August 29, 2008 2:06 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 2:11 PM | Report abuse

Catherine,

Is this what you call an argument for Obama against McCain as Commander and Chief? Please it’s weak and shows you lack any depth in perspective. I would note that McCain has not only military experience (does Obama?) but he also attended one of the academies (has Obama?) not to mention he has strong family ties with the military all of which would give him more favorable appeal than Obama (to our generals whom you think should be making our choice as next president). Please make a point as to why Obama would be more favorable choice of the generals over McCain. On this issue McCain wins hands down.

My point in challenging your argument is that the generals do not decide on whom we elect as our next president. I dare say you would disagree but your juvenile argument about the generals and Palin is pathetic to say the least.

Posted by: sltiowa | August 29, 2008 2:10 PM | Report abuse

actually, her husband is indeed part Inuit

Posted by: Damien | August 29, 2008 2:10 PM | Report abuse

Aha, this proves that McCain is an avid reader of the Fix (and my comments here ;P). Last night, I suggested to folks on Chris's Veepstakes that if McCain wanted to win the election on the basis of anything but scaremongering, he'd have to augment his faux 'maverick' image with a choice of someone fresh and 'reform-minded' to appeal to floating voters. Palin is a good choice for this - there'll be a temptation for some Hillary voters to go with her, if she manages to ingratiate herself to them...

Posted by: Remus (infidelsshiver) | August 29, 2008 2:10 PM | Report abuse

I'm no genius, but I'm also not dumb enough to fall for McClueless' tricks. Just because Palin is a woman doesn't mean that she is a feminist. Some would argue that many of her past and present actions suggest otherwise. Let's see... she was a beauty queen... That sounds like something a feminist could get behind... Hmm... she is ANTI-CHOICE (which someone pointed out)... The list goes on. Hillary supporters should note that she is not of Clinton's caliber. While I was not a supporter of Clinton's during the campaign, I can say that the woman knows her stuff. I'm offended that McCain thinks that this is some sort of trade-off. Obama/Biden 08!

Posted by: Big Yellow Forehead | August 29, 2008 2:09 PM | Report abuse

It's mindless war-mongering "tough guys" like you and your buddy W, who probably have never fought anybody for real in your whole entire life, who got us into this mess, so spare me the macho BS.......
Posted by: timwayne | August 29, 2008 1:56 PM

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I'v never voted for Bush and I've never approved of him. Or his father, for that matter.

I served my country. In the Army. In the Infantry. Back probably when your your mama was cleaning your poop off your shirt tail. And back certainly when Barack Obama's air-headed flower child of a mother was cleaning his poop off his. That is, of course, when she wasn't dumping off her responsibility onto her generous, down-to-earth parents.

So man up and spare us all your sissy lefty crying.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 2:09 PM | Report abuse

For all of you "experience" freeks. Hillary tried that argument against Obama and only got so far. She didn't win, in case you haven't figured that out.

Obama's lack of experience hasn't been fixed, he pointed that out to all of us when he picked Biden. Palin is a real person and when she debates Biden, we'll all see how Biden's arrogance and condescension can't be held in check and he will self destruct. McCain will easily demonstrate Obama's inexperience and liberal views.

Looks good for Republicans right now.

Posted by: Rick | August 29, 2008 2:09 PM | Report abuse

Kato Kaelin has more experience.

Posted by: scott | August 29, 2008 2:09 PM | Report abuse

Experience counts little. It is how a person reacts to a situation that counts. Try looking at Harry Truman's lack of experience and remember how much fun the press made of his poor public speaking ability when he became president. Alexander the Great was 19 when he became king of Macedonia and died of maleria at age 33. What could he have done if he had experience. Another one was Henry V of England.The ability to make decisions is what really counts and we know that Sarah Palen knows how to make decisions. Obama only decision was when he accepted Michelle's proposal.

Posted by: Roy Dahlson | August 29, 2008 2:09 PM | Report abuse

She is an admitted drug user. Was she asked if she is still using? It is going to come up and as anyone knows, she lives up there in the middle of nowhere where people do as they please. I hope a reported with the nerve asks her the drug Question.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 2:09 PM | Report abuse

As a feminist, I am offended by this choice. As another poster said: women are not interchangeable. I'd rather have a woman-friendly VP like Joe Biden (who wrote the Violence Against Women Act) than a rightwing lightweight like Sarah Palin who believes that old men in Washington should be in control of my body. This woman is no Hillary. As a feminist, I know that Obama/Biden is the choice for me.

Posted by: Sophia | August 29, 2008 2:08 PM | Report abuse

Every woman needs to grasp this. In the tough, independent, reform-oriented, immensely successful governor who has more executive experience than Obama and who has an approval rating of 90% plus, McCain has presented us with a chance to vote for a fantastic woman candidate.

Miss this chance and it is likely that we won't see a woman in white house in our lifetime.

Posted by: A woman in oval office | August 29, 2008 2:08 PM | Report abuse

I find it hard to believe all these anonymous internet Hilary supporters now jumping for joy over Palin. Other than anatomy, what do they have in common?

Posted by: TK | August 29, 2008 2:08 PM | Report abuse

I know that a lot of opinions are that she gets the female vote for McCain, she gets the disgruntled Hillary supporters for McCain.
Are we voters really that stupid?
McCain nominates as his VP a journalism major with 1.5 years experience as Governor of a small state, and part time mayoral experience before that. I grew up in the UP of Mich (pop. 200,000), in a town about the size of the one Palin was mayor of. There is NO WAY that Palin is prepared to be President. Given McCain's age/health, given what we know now about Reagan's health while in office, the Repub. VP candidate HAS to be ready to be Pres. on day 1. Palin clearly isn't. In my opinion, Palin loses McCain more votes than she gains.

Posted by: leu2500 | August 29, 2008 2:08 PM | Report abuse

Does this remind anyone else of the nomination of Harriet Miers to SCOTUS? Only difference is that Palin was a beauty queen

Posted by: remember anyone? | August 29, 2008 2:08 PM | Report abuse

I don't know what to think about this Palin pick. I'd like to know how many times Sen. McCain has met or spoken with Gov. Palin. I was initially thinking that this decision demonstrates that McCain really is a maverick, but on second thought I'd say it makes him look erratic. Putting someone you don't know a heartbeat away from the presidency seems reckless. I'm worried.

Posted by: Nevada Karl C. | August 29, 2008 2:07 PM | Report abuse

"Is this McCain's way.."


Only is you're a sexist...

If you don't vote for McCain you're a sexist.

Barry can take some of his own medicine now...

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 2:07 PM | Report abuse

why should people change there vote because palin is a woman ? doesnt make sense, but I know black people are voting for Obama becasue he's black, oops...not supposed to say those things, sorry but the truth hurts

Posted by: snapplecat07 | August 29, 2008 2:07 PM | Report abuse

Palin is really a Republican after Karl Rove's own blackened tar pit heart - she's a product of the party that produced the indicted Ted Stevens and ethically tarred Don Young, and she's embroiled in a Troopergate scandal of her own, with state investigators looking at serious allegations that Palin abused her office by pressuring the state Public Safety Commissioner to fire "an Alaska state trooper involved in a rough divorce from Palin's sister." Sounds like a woman after Karl Rove's black tar pit colored heart.

http://www.adn.com/monegan/story/478090.html
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In addition to further associating McCain with the Republican culture of corruption, the Palin pick undermines one of his main anti-Obama narratives. It's going to be laughable to hear McCain assail Obama's supposed lack of experience after naming the first-term governor -- only one-and-a-half years into her term -- of the 47th largest state to be his running mate. Palin lacks any foreign policy experience, and is bereft of even the two core areas of policy expertise that governors are supposed to bring to a ticket -- ag policy (Alaska doesn't have much in the way of traditional agriculture) and urban affairs (Anchorage is the 65th largest city in the US, behind giants such as Corpus Christi). She's easily the least experienced running mate in recent memory, which is pretty scary, given McCain's age and his history of cancer.

Posted by: ZappoDave | August 29, 2008 2:07 PM | Report abuse

If any of you bitter, hopeless DEMS want to know how much buzz this VP pick is generating the after "I have a dream 2", just hit the page down button on your computer!!!

Posted by: I Have A Scream -- YEEEEEEEAHHHHH -- Chairman Dean | August 29, 2008 2:06 PM | Report abuse

When I see a photo of Governor Palin I picture Karen Walker from Will & Grace with a martini in her hand saying, "Honey, What's This, What's going on? What's happening?"

But then it dawns on me that those words are spoken by John McCain...

Posted by: Bingo | August 29, 2008 2:06 PM | Report abuse

Is it lost on anyone that she is an admitted pot head?

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 2:05 PM | Report abuse

"...Palin appeals to me, the independent, exactly because she isn't experienced (corrupted) by Washington.

Posted by: jimbob"

Not to be too morbid, jimbob, but at 72 McThuselah is the oldest candidate in the history of the US, with a history of melanoma. There is a measurable chance your 'independent' could sit in the Oval, even for a short time (POTUSs do get sick, y'know). This is a GOOD idea to you?

What people like you don't realize is that this is a global choice, not just an opportunity for you to poke your thumb in Washington's eye.

Posted by: deeppeace | August 29, 2008 2:05 PM | Report abuse

Big DECK: Well said. You hit it out of the park!

Posted by: VHoldum | August 29, 2008 2:05 PM | Report abuse

John McCain has just assured a loss in November by a landslide. Why? Many white males are not going to vote for McCain with a female VP, no matter how conservative she is or whether she hunts. They, apparently, did not pay attention to the number of white males voting for Obama vs Hillary. Also, older white women who supported Hillary are not going to support McCain/Palin because they know it's not really change but more of the same, and they know it was an attempt to shakeup the Democratic Party.

Over the next few weeks, it will be shown that McCain is very close to the situation in Georgia where Russia stopped a US inspired uprising resulting in the Georgian military killing 2000. The Bush Administration instigated and embolden Georgia to rise against Russia. Why? The oil & gas in the region and the US and ally built oil pipeline through Georgia. You can also bet that Alaska's governor may be close to this because of the oil pipelines in Alaska built several years ago. It was somewhat similar to the Bush Administration telling the Israeli government to attack Lebanon, a war Israel lost in 2006. This was related to the oil pipeline coming from Northern Iraq to the ports in Lebanon.

It's time to get rid of the two oil guys in the White House and not replace them with John McCain who supported Bush 90 to 95 percent of the time. The Bush Administration are even trying to get their crooked Justice Department to reduce the prison time of convicted fraudster lobbiest Jack Abramoff. Why? So that Abramoff wont point the finger at Bush and Cheney as being a part of his crimes. They are trying to do this before Bush leaves office and is replaced with Obama.

Obama/Biden by a landslide in November.

Posted by: westthea | August 29, 2008 2:05 PM | Report abuse

she's got more experience than the black boy

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 2:05 PM | Report abuse

So, McCain claims that Obama put his own political interests above what he knows to be the best interests of his country? Can McCain honestly say that Gov Palin is the one best person he could find to serve as his VP?? Can anyone say that?

No, it sounds like he picked her in a cheap attempt to garner political points to sway disaffected Hillary voters, knowing that Palin is unqualified to serve as president. I hope the voters are smart enough to see through this ruse.

Posted by: hypocrisy watcher | August 29, 2008 2:04 PM | Report abuse

"Talking Head’ have been screaming about Obama’s lack of experience"


She's not running for President...

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 2:04 PM | Report abuse

Now we know what Elaine Benes has been up to since Seinfeld went off the air-- she's been buying socks and cutting Snickers bars for John McCain!! Is this McCain's way of telling the American people not to vote for him?

Posted by: Jerry Seinfeld | August 29, 2008 2:04 PM | Report abuse

the problem is that she does not have enough time in public life to get a handle on … how much can one debate about the commercial fishing industry?? Or whether a camping tent has a mosquito net built-in. Sports reporter? The biggest sport in Alaska is the Iditarod Sled Dog Race, and the main participants can’t talk. It would be like asking Secretariat exactly how he felt down the stretch at the Belmont Stakes and was the Triple Crown winner.

Cant wait for her to trot out her executive skills … like a balanced budget for the state. Well sure … you have that crooked Senator bringing barrels of pork from Washington and oil tax money rolling in … who couldn’t balance a budget! Gosh, we have to reduce the platinum plating on the Governor’s Mansion to gold. Darn, we sure are making hard choices here in Alaska.

Posted by: socalguy | August 29, 2008 2:04 PM | Report abuse

Hillary worked for 35 years to put those 18 million cracks in the glass ceiling. John McCain now wants to exploit Hillarys work and Ms. Palins gender so that, in two months, he and the Republicans can hold on to the presidency. Nice try.

Posted by: tricknv | August 29, 2008 2:03 PM | Report abuse

from fox news website -
The following are facts about Sarah Palin, the youngest person and first woman to be elected the governor of Alaska:

Born: Feb. 11, 1964 in Sandpoint, Idaho

Home: Wasilla, Alaska

Education: University of Idaho, B.S. 1987

Religion: Christian

Marital Status: Married (Todd)

Elected Office: Wasilla City Council, 1992-96; Wasilla Mayor, 1996-2002.

Professional Career: Television sports reporter, 1987-89; Co-owner, commercial fishing operation, 1988-2007; Owner, snow machine, watercraft, and all-terrain vehicle business, 1994-97; chairwoman, Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission, 2003-2004. Governor 2006.

Posted by: Election 08 | August 29, 2008 2:03 PM | Report abuse

Dirty old man pick . . . just joking (although Mme. McCain's hair, a physical metaphor for these political brides, looked quite flat and lifeless, as if in dejection, as the fertile young pol strode behind her and hubby John).

We have a real variety of experience and origin in the U.S. Small scale governmental issues that directly affect working class people are Palin's specialty, and those are very charged and vulnerable issues and constituencies now. We vote for people we relate to, and many self-identified "regular folk" will find much to identify with in Palin.

Posted by: maninthehills | August 29, 2008 2:03 PM | Report abuse

"neophyte politician"


Like Obama????

Posted by: OOps | August 29, 2008 2:02 PM | Report abuse

Damn...o-fer-two in the VP picks. Well, there's always 2012.

Posted by: DDAWD | August 29, 2008 2:02 PM | Report abuse

Let me see if I understand things…

McCain picks Palin as his running mate but he and practically every other conservative/Republican ‘Talking Head’ have been screaming about Obama’s lack of experience and how this would be disastrous for our country. The argument is “We need to have experienced leadership who understand the big picture. We need leadership that recognizes the complexities of our national economy, the world economy, world politics, and a dearth of issues that only a seasoned and experienced leader can effectively manage and understand.” The argument of choosing or even considering Obama brings tremendous risk to our economy, our national security, etc.

McCain then picks Palin, a woman, who is two years from overseeing Wasilla, AK. She was mayor of a town of 6,700 people just two years ago!!! This left her experienced in matters like “Who’s got moose patrol today?” and “Is John Boy going to get over to the town square so he can fix the our traffic light?” and “What can the community do to ensure Mr. Wibble gets enough sales so he will start reopening the market on Sundays?”

The thinking is “Let’s pick a girl so we can get all of those disenchanted Hillary voters to swing and vote for us. Palin’s pro-life and she’ll swing those hard-line Christian voters our way.” Let’s pick her even if, basically, we’re one stroke or heart attack away from this woman becoming President.

McCain turned 72 years old today and is looking to tackle one of the most stressful jobs in the world and his thinking, thinking that the best thing for the good of the country, convey how he really understands the big picture, and look to create a compelling ticket of experienced leadership…is to pick a woman two years removed from the big politics of Wasilla, AK to be the best person to replace him if something should happen?!?!?

In my book, that’s not looking at what’s best for our country, it’s only looking to ‘Win and win at any cost”…even at the expense of putting someone utterly and tremendously inexperienced in, arguably, the most important role in the world - one who is a heartbeat away going from “How are we going to keep the bears away from our town dump?” to “Should I push the big red button?”

What a Fu$%ing joke!!!
Obama for President. It’s so right that anything else would be wrong.

Posted by: Big DECK | August 29, 2008 2:02 PM | Report abuse

So McCain gets punked by a fake "riff in Dem Party" story by the media and makes a really lame VP choice simply because she is a woman. As a woman, I've never wanted to be the token, and now McCain has given us a high profile one.

Posted by: FiddleDeeDee | August 29, 2008 2:01 PM | Report abuse

"How fitting it is that 45 years after "I Have A Dream" we will have our first "Affirmative Action" President!!"

I assume you mean the guy who got into Annapolis despite poor grades and a bad record in high school (his dad and grandfather were admirals), got a pilot slot despite graduating 4th from the bottom of his class, kept his wings despite crashing five aircraft, and who now picks their VP solely because they needed a woman to try to claim the "change" mantle...

That is the candidate you were referring to, right?

Posted by: kreuz_missile | August 29, 2008 2:01 PM | Report abuse

I'm a life long democrat who loves Obama and Hillary but now I'm voting for VP Palin and whoever she is running with!!

Posted by: life long Democrat | August 29, 2008 2:01 PM | Report abuse

Who says that Hillary supporters are voting for McCain? I don't know any Hillary supporters that are not now voting for Obama. I think that those blog entries claiming otherwise are really Karl Rove and his operatives in disguise.

Posted by: msreason | August 29, 2008 2:01 PM | Report abuse

Maybe I've known too many senators, but I'm more comfortable with Palin being President than anyone on either ticket.

Posted by: Jo | August 29, 2008 2:00 PM | Report abuse

All Tackle, No Fish

Posted by: Change/'08 | August 29, 2008 2:00 PM | Report abuse

She is not being voted in just because she's a women.

She's conservative.

Pro-Alaska oil drilling.

Pro-life

The women thing is just the icing on the cake, John McCain made a shrewd choice.

The women from TX could have been chosen also, but she's a little more controversial.

It was always going to be a women, Obama missed his chance.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 2:00 PM | Report abuse

Oh my god, this is scarey. McInsane has put a 44-year-old neophyte politician one old heartbeat away from the presidency?
What in the world was he thinking? Isn't he the one who said the first qualification a vice-president must have is qulification and fitness to assume the presidency?
All partisanship aside, this choice is a reckless campaign gambit, and is unfair to Gov. Pallin, the GOP and the country.
Captain America should retire back to his Senate offices, decide on bills with a dartboard and await a job opening at Annapolis.
Governor Pallin should return to Juneau quietly as if none of this ever happened.
McCain? What a fool.

Posted by: JMFulton, Jr. | August 29, 2008 1:59 PM | Report abuse

I have lived in many parts of this country and I am thrilled that this choice has been made. Sarah Palin is honest, dynamic and a great American. This country should be privileged to have her in a leadership role.
Obama is all icing and no cake. For instance, "Change We Can All Believe In". Bet he didn't think that the Republicans would beat him to the punch.
Biden, don't think that you can run over this woman just because you are a Washington insider. YOU WILL BE RUDELY AWAKENED!!!!! You have never been up against one such as SARAH.

GO MCCAIN/PALIN

Posted by: Proud Alaskan | August 29, 2008 1:59 PM | Report abuse

The wierdest thing of all...I understand VPs being strategic picks to try to win elections, but this seems like a pick to win a single news cycle...

Posted by: kreuz_missile | August 29, 2008 1:59 PM | Report abuse

Thank you, John McCain, for this gift. Disaffected (and mostly pro choice) Hillary Clinton supporters are smart enough to see the pro life Sarah Palin's resume as nonexistent compared to Hillary's. So you insult them with this pandering. Meanwhile, you undercut your own argument that experience is essential for national office. Palin gives you no geographic balance and doesn't deliver a swing state.

John, with this pick I question whether you have the judgment to be commander in chief.

Posted by: Obama supporter | August 29, 2008 1:58 PM | Report abuse

How fitting it is that 45 years after "I Have A Dream" we will have our first "Affirmative Action" President!!

Posted by: MLK 2 | August 29, 2008 1:58 PM | Report abuse

McCain had it down to two choices. The final selection was based on the results of the Democratic Convention. Poor results and a conservative choice like Mitt Romney. A great united Democratic Convention and he needed to stop the momentum, especially with women...a long shot The selection is an attempt to try and keep the Hillaries in his camp that are now moving to Obama.

Posted by: DC | August 29, 2008 1:58 PM | Report abuse

Well..OBVIOUSLY..she'll need a crash course in COMMUNITY ORGANIZER 101 to be as QUALIFIED as Senator Arugula.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 1:58 PM | Report abuse

Not being an Alaskan woman, nor a former mayor, I just can't support Sarah Palin. She has nothing in common with me.

She's not even the Vice Presidential nominee that I'd most like to go have a beer with.

Posted by: Deaniac | August 29, 2008 1:58 PM | Report abuse

Let me see if I understand things…

McCain picks Palin as his running mate but he and practically every other conservative/Republican ‘Talking Head’ have been screaming about Obama’s lack of experience and how this would be disastrous for our country. The argument is “We need to have experienced leadership who understand the big picture. We need leadership that recognizes the complexities of our national economy, the world economy, world politics, and a dearth of issues that only a seasoned and experienced leader can effectively manage and understand.” The argument of choosing or even considering Obama brings tremendous risk to our economy, our national security, etc.

McCain then picks Palin, a woman, who is two years from overseeing Wasilla, AK. She was mayor of a town of 6,700 people just two years ago!!! This left her experienced in matters like “Who’s got moose patrol today?” and “Is John Boy going to get over to the town square so he can fix the our traffic light?” and “What can the community do to ensure Mr. Wibble gets enough sales so he will start reopening the market on Sundays?”

The thinking is “Let’s pick a girl so we can get all of those disenchanted Hillary voters to swing and vote for us. Palin’s pro-life and she’ll swing those hard-line Christian voters our way.” Let’s pick her even if, basically, we’re one stroke or heart attack away from this woman becoming President.

McCain turned 72 years old today and is looking to tackle one of the most stressful jobs in the world and his thinking, thinking that the best thing for the good of the country, convey how he really understands the big picture, and look to create a compelling ticket of experienced leadership…is to pick a woman two years removed from the big politics of Wasilla, AK to be the best person to replace him if something should happen?!?!?

In my book, that’s not looking at what’s best for our country, it’s only looking to ‘Win and win at any cost”…even at the expense of putting someone utterly and tremendously inexperienced in, arguably, the most important role in the world - one who is a heartbeat away going from “How are we going to keep the bears away from our town dump?” to “Should I push the big red button?”

What a Fu$%ing joke!!!
Obama for President. It’s so right that anything else would be wrong.

Posted by: Big DECK | August 29, 2008 1:57 PM | Report abuse

>>>

21 months as Governor and 6 years as mayor of a very small town.
Inexperienced.
Posted by: homer

150 working days in the U.S. Senate, most of which was spent campaining for a job above his pay grade.

A back-bencher in the Illinois legislature.

And.. a community oraganizer. Whatever the fudge that is.

I'm sorry. You were saying?

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 1:21 PM <<<

Sen. Obama also has about 11 years of legislative experience in the Illinois State Senate. You forgot about that?

McCain must like suicide missions. I can imagine that the neocons and the evangelicals are OK, maybe even lukewarm, with McCain's decision -- particularly since Mitt Romney had weighty experience that McCain can count on. McCain seems to want someone who he can control, and that person isn't Mitt Romney.

I think McCain picked Gov. Pallin for two reasons -- (1) he needed to somehow get his campaign energized because his POW story wasn't working on the common folks and (2) the pick of Gov. Pallin was obviously a political one -- trying to appeal to Hillary supporters who are still bitter about her defeat. Talk about McCain not putting our country first before his personal (and political) interests. Also it's interesting that is Gov. Pallin is younger than Sen. Obama, and as I watched her stand next to McCain, the visual contrast is stark. Can you see McCain going to her for advice? Inquiring minds want to know.

Like I said, Gov. Pallin was a political pick for one reason only -- to grab hold of those bitter Hillary supporters. Hopefully, people will see this for what it is -- a political appointment, not one where the VP is ready to take over on Day One if something happens to the president.

I guess that John McCain needed all of the help he can grab hold of these days after looking over at the other side of the aisle and gauging the enthusiasm gap.

Posted by: Power Play | August 29, 2008 1:57 PM | Report abuse

Well..OBVIOUSLY..she'll need a crash course in COMMUNITY ORGANIZER 101 to be as QUALIFIED as Senator Arugula.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 1:57 PM | Report abuse

The Republicans did for America what Democrats did not. One day the Dems will get serious about winning elections. They just nominated a racist with paper thin credentials and enough baggage to bring down a Boeing 747. Obama doesn't deserve the Presidency because he didn't earn it; he scammed voters. Just another thug from the streets of Chicago.

Posted by: Bill Bridges | August 29, 2008 1:57 PM | Report abuse

i was not a hillary supporter, but i certainly have respect for her experience and knowledge...

to think that mccain can pimp out some alaskan beauty queen and equate her with clinton is both insulting and absurd...

god help us if mccain gets the gig and dies...so much for putting country before winning an election.

Posted by: jazzgrrrl25 | August 29, 2008 1:57 PM | Report abuse

THE PALIN SHOCKER:
'HELL HATH NO FURY' LIKE A HILLARIAN SCORNED!

• A "Hot Mamma" Game-changer with Smarts and Sass

• Is Experience Now Optional in Presidential Politics?


To all those who deride McCain's VP pick of inexperienced short-term female governor Sarah Palin as handing the election to Barack Obama: The joke very well may be on the man who dared to scorn Hillary Clinton.

Yes, Palin lacks even a scintilla of foreign relations or national affairs experience. She's got a new special-needs infant, and a bit of a scandal to handle back at home. And while she displays Tina Fey's four-eyed good looks, she's been cursed with Molly McGee's nails-on-a-blackboard voice.

Palin's high-pitched screech makes Hillary Clinton sound like Marilyn Monroe. She's got that "Take out the GARBAGE!" tone that's painfully familiar to any henpecked husband.

But in her Dayton debut with her silver-haired political sugar-daddy at her side, she also came off as smart, sassy in a very attractive way, and ready to rumble -- kind of like a biker chick dolled up in an Armani pantsuit. She was, after all, a Miss Alaska runner-up...

Joe Biden, who's got some bankruptcy bill issues coming out of his political closet, certainly possesses the international relations chops, an area in which Palin brings nothing to the table.

But her background as a businesswoman, a working mom and more recently, as a governor, may just give her a unique edge on many forms of DOMESTIC relations. Who knows? On those issues, "the shrew" just might be able to tame "the smirk."

At the VP debate, I could just see Biden's self-sanctimonious manner getting a low kick by way of a cutting putdown from the GOP's New Hillary. It's a good thing the VP candidates will be sitting down.

By going with someone lacking in experience, McCain forfeits one of his best arguments against an Obama presidency. At first blush, his concession on the experience issue looks like a gift to an untested Democrat with barely four years on the national scene (most of them spent running for president).

But remember -- the experience argument didn't help George Bush the elder in his 1992 run against young Bill Clinton; and it didn't work for Hillary Clinton in this year's primaries.

Obama has skillfully countered the experience argument with his "judgement to lead" mantra, recently augmented by a constant questioning of McCain's problematic "temperament."

And now, in one Northern Exposure master stroke, McCain changes the game into a battle of the sexes. He has injected a classic theme -- the "woman scorned." Palin offers enraged Hillary Democrats a chance for sweet revenge.

Don't think for a moment that Palin's anti-abortion stance and her opposition to such traditional Democratic issues as gun control will prevent a significant number of Hillarians from taking a second look at McCain for President; they were doing so even before the Palin stunner.

So suddenly, the narrative of Election '08 has taken on the airs of Shakespearean morality play. And who among us can't finish the following sentence: "Hell hath no fury..."

I can hear Hillary cackling right now.

Posted by: scrivener | August 29, 2008 1:56 PM | Report abuse

Out here in Ohio, we elected a Democratic AG in 2006 with no real experience (Marc Dann), and he was a disaster. The first thing that came to mind when I heard about the Palin pick was Marc Dann. And we're not talking about a state AG, we're talking about the Vice Presidency. I suspect some other Ohio voters may be thinking along the same lines. I just don't get this pick.

Posted by: Chris | August 29, 2008 1:56 PM | Report abuse

Anonymous wrote:
"I's like to know how many of these squawking lefties could get up at 3am, pack a rifle out into the Alaskan woods and track and hunt a moose?

No Starbucks out on the moose trail, weenies.

I believe this lady will appeal to disaffected female voters and make a difference in the race."

I live in Maine and know something about moose-hunting. It is just slightly more challenging than hunting a Holstein cow in farm country. Most people hunt them from the road because they won't have to pack the 800 lbs. of meat too far to get it into their truck. So get over the Jack London fantasy, and think about what would qualify someone like her to be president, really? You probably think we should attack Russia over their invasion of Georgia too don't you? It's mindless war-mongering "tough guys" like you and your buddy W, who probably have never fought anybody for real in your whole entire life, who got us into this mess, so spare me the macho BS.......

Posted by: timwayne | August 29, 2008 1:56 PM | Report abuse

Hey, Anonymous --- they moved that bridge !!! it's in Arizona now.

Posted by: Sarge | August 29, 2008 1:56 PM | Report abuse

Jeez, John McCain's VP:

(1) is hotter than me
(2) has a better smile and personality than me
(3) has a higher popularity in her state than me
(4) gives a great damn speech
(5) has major of a small town against my "community organizer"
(6) has council member, major and governor against my resume
(7) has a more adorable kid story than I do
(8) wasn't created by a drunken, polygamist, already-married father who abandoned her teenaged mother
(9) got ahead with hard work and achievement instead of affirmative action and racial preferences
(10) has an actual political philosphy and approach that is distinctly hers
(11) has a record of action that she can point to, to define her leadership priorities and character
(12) is a better basketball player than me

Posted by: Barack Obama's Conscience | August 29, 2008 1:55 PM | Report abuse

McCain should know women aren't stupid. Palin? please.

Posted by: Alina | August 29, 2008 1:55 PM | Report abuse

"... Sarah Palin is more experienced than Barack Obama to be President of the United States. She has executive experience, Obama's been a senator for 4 yrs. Some people commenting on this thread are obviously filled with disillusions. ..."

If that was meant as satire, it's the funniest comment I've read this year. If not, it's even funnier.

Posted by: synykyl | August 29, 2008 1:55 PM | Report abuse

You think so, I thing Hillary job has just defined.
Hillary is going to tear this woman a new a&& hole.

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I personally think John McCain choose a great running mate to counter everything Obama said last night. He choose a reformer who defeated two gaints of the establishment in both the republican and democrats. She is one of not the popular governor in the country. Her approval ratings are in 90%. She is a great choice especially to make the biggest move in women momevent. Both republican and Democrats in her home state loved her. One person was quoted "You can't help but love Sara Palin." I am looking for the ticket more since I am not happy with the Obama-Biden ticket. I am register democrat and Hillary supporter. I saw and wanted for Obama to sell me to come and support him and with his speech he didn't sell me or convinced me to vote for Obama-Biden ticket.

Posted by: Ivan E. Medina | August 29, 2008 1:52 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 1:55 PM | Report abuse

To Matt:

Alaska's population: 670,000
USA's population: 300,000,000

Posted by: BLC | August 29, 2008 1:55 PM | Report abuse

This strategy pretty much describes the old adage about cutting your nose to spite your face.

John McCain: Anti-Abortion, Pro-Creationism, Against Equal Pay, More Tax Breaks for those making over $250K, against insurance for the uninsured familes, etc, etc, etc.

Remember McCain's joke about Chelsea???

And you're gonna vote for him because it's a vote against Obama???

Boy, stupidity doesn't even describe it. IF YOU REALLY ARE A HILLARY SUPPORTER.

****hey um...why would I vote for Obama after he stole the nomination? That's like asking me to support Bush who also got in office via corruption. I will never vote for corruption and Obama = corruption. I consider democracy to be more important than a candidate or a party. Obama usurped the democratic process. I will fight against that. At least McCain is the devil we know, we know he is a maverick Republican. Obama is the devil we don't know and I suspect far more dangerous. Where do you think all of Obama's $$$$ came from? Who did he buy off?

Hillary Clinton was the best choice for the future of our country and you Obama idiots fell for his con game. If you believe that a guy with no resume can bring you some undefined "hope and change", you probably also believe in Santa Claus.

It is far too imortant to correct the outright corruption within the Democratic Party now before it's too late by refusing to vote for the candidate they have attempted to force on us. We can not reward corruption with our vote.

Posted by: Shelby | August 29, 2008 1:54 PM | Report abuse

Incredibly naive..there is TOO much at stake for this country going forward...

Posted by: RB-Chicago | August 29, 2008 1:54 PM | Report abuse

"the difference being that VPs do very very little."

Hey Jo, whave you been asleep for the last 7 years. This VP we have not has single handledly destroyed our country so that he could make himself and his Oil friends even more wealthy than they were before. Bush has been not much more than a puppet. And when you consider that the repub candidate for Pres is 72 years old, the VP candidate becomes VERY important. The phrase "hearbeat away from the Presidency" has never been more important.

How can you say that the experience of Palin and Obama are comparable when the only office Palin held that had jurisdiction over more than 15,000 people was her 18 months as Governor.

Obama served in his state legislature of r several years (representing an area that had a greater population than the town in which Palin was Mayor) and has served in the US Senate for 4 years. I think that gives him just a bit of an edge on the experience issue.

You may not like Obama, but you can't change the facts. Obama's experiece is far greater than that of Palin and his judgement and foresight is far better than that of McSame, someone whose been in Washington for over 25 years. I much prefer Obama's experience and judgement to that of the McSame/Palin ticket.

PG

Posted by: PeixeGato | August 29, 2008 1:54 PM | Report abuse

"Republican woman with experience."

Palin has just as much executive experience as Hillary and Obama.

Hillbillery lost an expensive bet and New York state is paying. Beware of carpetbaggers with forked tongue!

Posted by: 123kkl | August 29, 2008 1:54 PM | Report abuse

Here's my Qualification to become president Of The united states of amerika: I'm half-Black

Here's my Strategy to become president Of The united states of amerika: I'm not George W. Bush.


"I'm Barak Obama and I approve this message"

Posted by: Obamanation | August 29, 2008 1:54 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin should have waited for Harriet Miers, it was Harriet's turn. Sarah Palin, Harriet Miers, Phylis Diller, they are all from the same mold in the Republican Party. Incompetant, incapable and have a padded resume. And McCain saying, gee I'll pick a woman and young woman at that, that way I will get the youth vote as well as the woman. McCain is clueless and scary. Republicans can do it.

Posted by: Mahan | August 29, 2008 1:53 PM | Report abuse

Wake up America!

THIS COUNTRY IS IN IT'S EMBRIONIC STAGES
OF TOTALITARIANISM.

You can halt it in it's tracks by bringing back the government of decency devoid of corruption.

America, this is your calling...again, wake up!

Posted by: stranger in a strange land | August 29, 2008 1:53 PM | Report abuse

a few items of note: on Mccain and Palin, this is the very first major party ticket in US history in which both Prez and VP candidates are from Western States, as well as first GOP woman on the ticket....strategically, look for Palin to Play well in western states, including those Western states that Obama had been eyeing for his basket including colorado, montana, new mexico, so having Palin on the ticket especially changes the dynamic of this election race for all States west of the Mississippi River....have never heard her in debates, but Biden is no fireball on the debate podium so she could be useful there....how many female voters will be attracted to the GOP ticket with Palin on it is anyone's guess, even if she is defined as pro-life (as are 30 to 40 percent of American women defined as pro-life)....looking at the pluses and negatives, it would seem she adds more to GOP ticket than she detracts - altho adding Biden to Demo ticket also adds certain advantages for Obama, but Biden also brings certain negatives and baggage to obama ticket....as with all things in life, nothing is sharp and crystal clear,,, so both Biden and Palin bring both negative and positive points to their respective nominees....

Posted by: davey | August 29, 2008 1:53 PM | Report abuse

Hmmm ... I look at this forum and see a lot of people afraid of a woman getting in line for presidency.

Posted by: Afraid of a woman president | August 29, 2008 1:53 PM | Report abuse

"I think you miss the point.
Obama gets support of African Americans because they believe in the same things."

Scott, I'm afraid you miss the point. Are you one of "them" that you read their minds and know why "they" support him?

Obviously many African Americans support Obama because of his stances, not just his skin color. And many women will vote Obama, because of his stances and irrespective of his gender.

But in a race this close, peeling away even a small percentage of otherwise undecided women can tilt the balance, and McCain and his people were undoubtedly well aware of this.

Posted by: jesuguru | August 29, 2008 1:53 PM | Report abuse

oh, MY GOD WHAT WAS HE THINKING? The senator from Texas would have been a better choice. Palin has no experience! None, wake up America, our we not tired of the last 8 years? IF you want more of the same vote MCcain. If you are ready for a change for vote for Obama! Mccain wants to continue to spend $10 billion a month in Iraq, thats right $10 billion think what we could do with that here at home. Its time to take care of the United States first and foremost. I like millions of others will be voting democrat!

Posted by: DEN | August 29, 2008 1:53 PM | Report abuse

The ridiculousness of this defies all reason. This is going to down in history as the worst VP pick. In he speech she refers to shattering the glass ceiling. In other words, her words, her qualification is, "She is a woman". She has no idea what she is in for, they will tear her apart.

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Two years ago, Palin was part-time mayor of a village of 6,000. Today, she's supposedly ready to step in to run this country in the eventuality that a 72 year old John McBush can no longer perform those duties?...Really?...HAHAHA!!!

Posted by: astral99 | August 29, 2008 1:46 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 1:53 PM | Report abuse


I personally think John McCain choose a great running mate to counter everything Obama said last night. He choose a reformer who defeated two gaints of the establishment in both the republican and democrats. She is one of not the popular governor in the country. Her approval ratings are in 90%. She is a great choice especially to make the biggest move in women momevent. Both republican and Democrats in her home state loved her. One person was quoted "You can't help but love Sara Palin." I am looking for the ticket more since I am not happy with the Obama-Biden ticket. I am register democrat and Hillary supporter. I saw and wanted for Obama to sell me to come and support him and with his speech he didn't sell me or convinced me to vote for Obama-Biden ticket.

Posted by: Ivan E. Medina | August 29, 2008 1:52 PM | Report abuse

The USA is truly gender obsessed. As Joe Jackson sang many years ago: "If there's war between the sexes, there'll be nobody left." This move is the logical counter to Clinton's gender obsessiveness. We are all acting like little boys and girls, and it could very well prove our undoing as a nation if this silliness paves the way for another warmonger.

Posted by: DK | August 29, 2008 1:52 PM | Report abuse

"I get it! It's the "Paleo/Palin 2008" ticket."
Good one, Karl.
***

With Palin, the Republicans are offering yet another
candidate in the pocket of Big Oil.

Does McCain's pick of the lovely younger woman, who brings
him certain riches not provided by his wife, have an analog
in Greek or Roman mythology?

Posted by: VHoldum | August 29, 2008 1:52 PM | Report abuse

I think McCain misjudged Hillary voters. They do want a woman President but not just any woman for the sake of gender. Women want to be very proud of the first female president or VP, and although Hillary did meet that criteria in every respect, Palin pales in comparison to Hillary.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 1:52 PM | Report abuse

If McCain thinks he'll woo Hillary supporters with a pick like this then he's once again shown his disdain for women and their intelligence.

Posted by: John in Chicago | August 29, 2008 1:52 PM | Report abuse

mmarri - Palin's husband is not an Eskimo! he is a native Alaskan - meaning that he was born and raised in the state of Alaska.

Posted by: akazlei | August 29, 2008 1:51 PM | Report abuse

Karl Rove didn't have anything to do with this one -

"With all due respect again to Governor Kaine, he's been a governor for three years, he's been able but undistinguished. I don't think people could really name a big, important thing that he's done. He was mayor of the 105th largest city in America. And again, with all due respect to Richmond, Virginia, it's smaller than Chula Vista, California; Aurora, Colorado; Mesa or Gilbert, Arizona; north Las Vegas or Henderson, Nevada. It's not a big town."
–Karl Rove, August 10, "Face the Nation"

Tim Kaine's service as governor: three years
Sarah Palin's service as governor: twenty months

Population, Richmond, VA: 200,123
Population, Wasilla, AK: 9,780

Posted by: BLC | August 29, 2008 1:51 PM | Report abuse

think you miss the point.
Obama gets support of African Americans because they believe in the same things. Posted by: Scott | August 29, 2008 1:46 PM

...............


African Americans were nowhere behind, near or within a country mile of Obama until after the Iowa caucus.

For almost a year before that they were behind Clinton.

Big time.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 1:51 PM | Report abuse

Palin was a last minute pick. In the short-term she will generate excitement among among republicans and moonbat msm. Long-term Palin is a gift to the democrats.

Posted by: Kelee | August 29, 2008 1:51 PM | Report abuse

If one were to pick any state in the union to be called it's own country, Alaska is that. It IS basically it's own country. Twice the size of texas, it's own economy, etc.

And Sara Palin to Alaska is what Reagan was to America. She has done amazing things in her two years as governor. It's like running a country.

Posted by: Matt | August 29, 2008 1:51 PM | Report abuse

There go Democrats again. A la Keith Olbermann/Chris Mathews, chauvinistic pigs.

I think all the women who have been voting for Democrats ought to ask themselves, why is it that Geraldine Ferraro has been driven to commenting for FOX; and why was Hillary, the more qualified candidate compared to Obama, basically raped in public by the Democratic power brokers like Kennedy (he who murdered a woman), Kerry, Dick Durbin, Clyburn, Bill Richardson?

Democrats - holding women to ransom on pro-choice!

Posted by: Democrats - holding women to ransom on pro-choice | August 29, 2008 1:51 PM | Report abuse

I'm a Hillary supporter who planned to vote McCain, but this is just insulting and pathetic. Women are not interchangeable.

Obama 08

Posted by: barb | August 29, 2008 1:51 PM | Report abuse

I cannot wait to see them debate. Biden has the experience and the tactics to overwelhme Palin. How will she answer to foreign policy issues when she has ZERO experience. She hasn't even had to prove herself on a National level let alone an International level.
As a women, I am insulted by the way McCain has tried to manipulate and scheme, and he has hit the lowest low to me. I am not falling for his front, and if you give a damn about women's rights don't be fooled by him.

Posted by: kikgirl | August 29, 2008 1:51 PM | Report abuse

OK, now everybody calm down and face reality. It is absolutely inconceivable that the Republicans will ever chose a national candidate who will not become a mere puppet of and front for the Extreme Right Corporate-State controlling elite who themselves try to avoid exposure. "Mr. and Mrs. Maverick" would not have a chance [Bush didn't] against the well-rehearsed take-over-America psychopathic Reed-Cheney-Rove Gang or even realize they are being manipulated. True, McCain is not a used-car salesman like Nixon or insubstantial ex-actor like Reagan, but he would be far more easily manipulated than either. The constant discussion of which candidates are "better" tends always to devolve to personal prejudices, trivial issues and irrelevant diatribe, so just knock it off and read "Hijacking America" by Susan George and every other book of the same ilk, relative to which Democrats, "progressives", average self-interested Republicans, Obama, and especially McCain look quite naive, but the behind-the scenes "Republican" manipulators look incredibly scary. Better yet, send them all multiple copies and demand they read more.

Posted by: Truth first | August 29, 2008 1:50 PM | Report abuse

Fairfax Voter

Right on the money!

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 1:50 PM | Report abuse

To Anonymous at 1:31 -

You said: "And many liberals prefer to condescend, stereotype and demean. "Our" women can and do work at everything their male counterparts do."

I was thinking of the Southern Baptist Convention ten years ago, which urged its female members to return to their homes and let their male relatives do the outside-of-home work. I know of several ladies who had the grueling choice of either going against the dictates of their religious leadership or throwing themselves on the mercy of their menfolk. Common sense won out, and they kept their good middle-management jobs. Their churches supported their decision. I also know that the SBC lost its standing from then on.

But that doesn't mean that your average conservative voter is ready for a woman in charge. The religious ones I know (unless they're young) still express some concerns about women's leadership.

Look at how many conservatives in Congress are women! And there are so many sensible women who are proud conservatives out there; shouldn't more of them run for office? Unless they're keeping it local, it must be a cultural thing. One day this too shall pass.

And thanks, I'd prefer to stay home, too. But I don't have that all-important sugar daddy to keep me out lunching in satins and furs, so I continue at my non-profit. ; )

Posted by: Marit | August 29, 2008 1:50 PM | Report abuse

Becoming governor of a state with 78,000 people is equivalent, in pressure, to being mayor of Fargo in the Dakotas.

I mean, a council member in New York has more pressure than Palin, as governor in Alaska.

She and her folks sit atop our massive oil reserves though

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 1:50 PM | Report abuse

If John McCain's team had really wanted to attract Hillary supporters, he would have picked a Republican woman with experience. Hillary ran against Obama using her experience as the main reason to vote for her..."who's ready when the phone rings at 3:00 AM". And this really reduces his argument about Obama not having experience...it shows that McCain doesn't believe in this himself by choosing this person.

Posted by: Tim | August 29, 2008 1:49 PM | Report abuse

Why is the famous "south side of Chicago" still so screwed up??

I don't want Barry Obama doing any "community organizing" on America.

Posted by: iudforall | August 29, 2008 1:48 PM | Report abuse

women know hillary clinton. ms. palin, you are no hillary clinton.

sorry johnny boy, the dems are going to eat this vp alive. i can't wait to hear the feeding frenzy!

Posted by: glenda | August 29, 2008 1:48 PM | Report abuse

Palin has more experience than your Presidential candidate.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 1:48 PM | Report abuse

Obama and Biden should issue a polite statement welcoming Governor Palin to the race -- neither praising or condemning her, just greeting her.

Courtesy is always good politics and that's why I liked McCain's nice ad congratulating Obama.

Posted by: Fairfax Voter | August 29, 2008 1:48 PM | Report abuse

Dems heads are exploding all over town. Every argument they make against Palin for VP boomerangs on their nominee for Prez. This was masterful. Someone was obviously channeling the Ghost of Lee Atwater on this!!!

Posted by: Riley | August 29, 2008 1:48 PM | Report abuse

Biden isn't competent.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 1:48 PM | Report abuse

I like it...we need a hottie prez to swoon foreign leaders when McCain croks.

Posted by: Ryan | August 29, 2008 1:47 PM | Report abuse

A few observations...

This was the only pick McCain could make that has some real potential upside. Romney, Pawlenty, Lieberman, Ridge would have done nothing for him. Palin, if all works out well, can bring him women and conservatives. On the flip side, she could flame out miserably in the bright light of this campaign. It is a roll of the dice.

Second, Democrats shouldn't be so quick to write her off. She is way better than Agnew and Quayle, and they were on the winning side. She speaks well, has a story that is appealing to women, and isn't the typical unattractive female politician. Pat Buchanan needed to check his pants on MSNBC after hearing confirmation of this pick earlier today.

The good thing for Obama and Dems is that this should force him to use Hillary in a widespread manner in this campaign. He should have done that anyway, but this should cement that. With Bill, Hillary, Barack and Joe campaigning all over the country, I like their chances. Without the addition of Palin, they may have been arrogant enough to keep Hillary on the sidelines. We see how well that worked for Gore in 2000.

Good pick for McCain, but a high risk factor that I hope blows up in his face.

Posted by: PSU Chris | August 29, 2008 1:47 PM | Report abuse

You mean there is not an issue you care about? As long as it is a woman even one as unqualified as this one? Hillary I can see, Rice I can see, but a former cheer leader. You have no credibility when you say things like that. Her biggest venerability is she has a child with down syndrome. That takes a natural segway to health care and that is where she will lose. Many people have down syndrome children and no health care, they go bankrupt because of it. How does she tell them "I am sorry you get any help"

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I, as a woman and Hillary supporter felt betrayed and bitter when Obama did not pick her for VP. However, due to my strong Democrat beliefs, I was still much on board with Obama, and he had my vote - Until today. Senator John McCain, by choosing a strong Woman in S. Palin as his VP has shown me that perhaps the Republicans see more clearly where this nation should be headed. McCain/Palin has won my vote!

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Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 1:47 PM | Report abuse

If the Republicans think they are going to lure Hillary supporters to the anti-choice, pro-war side they are mistaken. The only Hillary supporters they will get are the politically ignorant, uneducated ones who only supported her as the Not Obama, which included such people as those who wanted to feed into falsehoods about him being a Muslim (which, I'm sorry, but is there something factually wrong with being Muslim, because if not, that sounds a lot like racism!). But the politically ignorant and uneducated are also the same demographic who vote for candidates based on their looks...Obama wins! Personally, I don't care about experience, but I thoroughly enjoy the hypocrisy of McCain. We need experience! Oh wait, no we don't, hahaha.

Posted by: Tina | August 29, 2008 1:47 PM | Report abuse

By making both McCain and Palin look stunningly ridiculous, the GOP's Rovian strategists truncated the world-wide celebration over the promising competence Obama and Biden. But if
Republicans took time away from clipping their inherited and stolen coupons to read history books, they would have learned about Pyrrhic victories.

Posted by: northernliberal | August 29, 2008 1:46 PM | Report abuse

I's like to know how many of these squawking lefties could get up at 3am, pack a rifle out into the Alaskan woods and track and hunt a moose?

No Starbucks out on the moose trail, weenies.

I believe this lady will appeal to disaffected female voters and make a difference in the race.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 1:46 PM | Report abuse

Two years ago, Palin was part-time mayor of a village of 6,000. Today, she's supposedly ready to step in to run this country in the eventuality that a 72 year old John McBush can no longer perform those duties?...Really?...HAHAHA!!!

Posted by: astral99 | August 29, 2008 1:46 PM | Report abuse

Sets up an interesting 2012 election. Obama loses in 2008, Hillary continues her lackluster performance for another four years not championing the causes of New York State and makes a run again in 2012 against Palin. Brilliant! Sure Hillary's is 100% behind Obama, maybe on a subway platform!

Posted by: George Morvey | August 29, 2008 1:46 PM | Report abuse

Funny to read comments along lines of "do they really think women will vote for her just because of her gender?"
Like I'm sure 90% or so of African Americans coincidently plan to vote for Obama in spite of (not because of) his skin color. Some are indeed motivated at least partly by racial/gender identity, and is their right.

Dems are just sweating because this pick at least won't alienate most women, might even pick up a few, but most certainly will endear him to conservatives and many independents. Also shores up his "maverick" stance, she's got that rep if none other.

Yes she's relatively inexperienced, but I'd be more comfortable with inexperience at the bottom of the ticket (McCain) than at the top (Obama) any day. Besides, at a time when voter disaffection with Washington is at all-time highs, experience certainly isn't automatically an asset.

Posted by: jesuguru | August 29, 2008 1:19 PM
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I think you miss the point.
Obama gets support of African Americans because they believe in the same things. End the war, fix the economy, stop spying on Americans, etc and he happens to be an African American. If it was just color they would have voted for Alan Keyes.

Sarah Palin isn't going to get Hillary's supporters because she is a woman when she is against prochoice, against health insurance for all and is supporting McCain on the war. If Sarah Palin agree on the issues with Hillary then that would be one thing but she disagrees on everything Hillary fought for. Women are not that stupid.

Posted by: Scott | August 29, 2008 1:46 PM | Report abuse

LMAO....

The senile candidate McCain makes a desperation Hail Mary pass in his pandering attempt to try to win over women voters.

This lady is actually WORSE for America than McCain. She will push for more RIGHT WING RADICAL NEO_CONs within the government and amongst the Supreme Court than John McCain ever would.

The Republicans have no moral spine. They have no ethical spine. All they wish to do is legislate morality to their own power corrupt worldview.

Welcome the new Ayatollahs. All Hail the Republican Fascist party. Sieg heil!

Posted by: Darrel from Denver | August 29, 2008 1:46 PM | Report abuse

Out of curiousity Lynn - what COULD get you to vote for Obama? You said "nothing in the world" and I'm curious if there is an actual reason for that. You disagree with Palin on big issues, and I'd presume you also then disagree with McCain (or at least the candidate McCain who has deserted his 'maverick' stances of even 4 years ago). Why on earth would you NEVER vote Obama? Personal hatred? I just don't understand the vehemence of your opinion at all, given your obvious beliefs on other important issues?

Posted by: Jeff | August 29, 2008 1:46 PM | Report abuse

Palin is a disastrous pick. Well, of course some Hillary zealots will through their pro-choice beliefs out door just to vote a woman despite her were she stands on the issues. BAD PICK!

Posted by: Mark | August 29, 2008 1:45 PM | Report abuse

This makes no sense. Her husband works for Big Oil a Big Oil state, tying McCain further to the oil execs. She's from a state and region that doesn't help him at all electorally. And worst of all, she has less experience than Obama, removing McCain's only real effective argument against Obamarama. Less than two years as governor and beholden to ideology...she's just another unknown pretty face. Dan Quayle in a dress! What a colossally dumb pick!

Posted by: BushMustGo | August 29, 2008 1:45 PM | Report abuse

And she can't pronounce the word "nuclear"...isn't it time we had people running this country who are at least literate?

Posted by: Paul | August 29, 2008 1:45 PM | Report abuse

Script for a "go negative" Obama campaign commercial:

Photoshop Sarah Pallin into the Clinton's campaign "3 am phone call" video, make the phone message "Vice President? You'd better get down to the White House. The President is in the intensive care unit."

Posted by: rmcmahon | August 29, 2008 1:45 PM | Report abuse

What's the matter drones don't think your rockstar has the stuff?

Perfect pick, look at your reactions!

Posted by: NOYB | August 29, 2008 1:44 PM | Report abuse

Yay! I'm a woman...Palin's a woman! She gets my vote!!! No other requirements!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Are You Serious? | August 29, 2008 1:44 PM | Report abuse

As a republican and an Alaskan, it has become clear to me that Palin is a moron. She is "beloved" by the people in our state even though she has no experience (small town mayor/beauty queen). Trust me, if you've ever been to Wasilla, Alaska, you would recognize that it is not much of an accomplishment to be mayor there. She won out as governor because she ran against a former governor that was despised (he picked his own daughter to be senator) and beating a democrat ex-governor (Alaska is a highly republican state). She reminds me of Obama -- falls back assward into power. She has proven her ignorance time and time again in how she deals with major issues (Alaska natural gas pipeline, oil companies, other interests that are important to Alaska). She routinely steps on a milk crate and yells to the masses about ethics then wonders why she finds herself in hot water when she pressures the department of public safety to fire her brother in law (yes, he was incompetent, but union contracts dictate a procedure to deal with that). She then fired the director of public safety when he did not fire her brother in law and cloaked the decision with bs reasons. She is not above the fray! Don't let her fool you. She also paid for a private investigator to look into her sibling's marriage. The woman would be a disaster as president (which is very possible given how old McCain is). I'm voting for Obama now even though his campaign office up here might as well shut down now....

Posted by: anonymous Alaskan | August 29, 2008 1:44 PM | Report abuse

If McCain thought his choice of VP would get me, a Hillary supporter to vote because he picked a woman..shame on him...no way. McCain surely is not a supporter of women and how absurd that he thinks his choice of Sarah Palin will get him Hillary supporters. what a joke he is..almost or maybe worse than his pay Bush. no Mr. McCain, your choice does not sway me. you underestimate the women of this country. I will support and vote for Obama. He may be young, he may be inexperienced but he is verrrrrryyyy smart, highly intelligent...wait and see, he will rise to the challenge and prove to be a good, if not great president.

Posted by: sandy | August 29, 2008 1:44 PM | Report abuse

Wow, awesome choice. Can't wait to see Barack Obama explain why he went with the old boys club and overlooked Hillary.

McCain * Palin - 2008!!

Sarah Barracuda - The Hockey Mom!!!

Posted by: gregger99 | August 29, 2008 1:44 PM | Report abuse

I knew deep down John McCain supported Affirmative Action.

Posted by: JakeD's shadow | August 29, 2008 1:43 PM | Report abuse

Do the repub's really think that the loyal pro-choice feminists supporters of Hillary Clinton will support an anti-choice Republican VP?
If so, then they are screwed.

Posted by: Doug | August 29, 2008 1:43 PM | Report abuse

"Tom M wrote: "Hooray...the first ever possible VPILF"

I don't know, Elbridge Gerry looked pretty fine in that wig.

Posted by: Mastodon Juan | August 29, 2008 1:43 PM | Report abuse

From a strictly strategic point of view, the timing and the pick were brilliant. In 1992, Clinton and Gore went on their bus tour, keeping Clinton's nomination in the headlines for days. McCain's choice of a surprise VP candidate the day after Obama's acceptance speech has knocked him from the headlines in less than one news cycle.

On the other hand, the idea that Palin, a conservative pro-lifer, will draw Hillary voters, is silly. This is a solid move to get the conservative, Christian, pro-life vote excited enough to go to the polls in November. It's motivated by a desire to boost turnout among the Republican base, not to lure Democratic women.

I think all this whispering about ethics scandals with respect to Palin is going to be ineffective--mountain out of molehill stuff for voters whom she would attract. It's mostly small potatoes personnel stuff with no smoking gun.

Go Obama. Yes, we can.

Posted by: Charles | August 29, 2008 1:43 PM | Report abuse

McCain made a strange move to pick Palin for VP. Does Maverick McCain have something in his sleeve when an election campaign heats up after the conventions?

Posted by: Joe | August 29, 2008 1:43 PM | Report abuse


Experience is terribly important.

So if McCain is elected, the hope is that he doesn't have a heart attack.

And if Obama is elected, the hope is that he does.

Posted by: WylieD | August 29, 2008 1:43 PM | Report abuse

Obama promises to cut taxes to 95% of the people and raise taxes on the 5% who funded his campaign. I don't believe it one second. And if I hear Michelle Obama say "South Side Chicago" one more time...

Posted by: dcp | August 29, 2008 1:43 PM | Report abuse

The goal here for dissed women Dems/Hillary voters is to punish Obama and the Democrats. That means to either not vote at all for President or to vote for McCain. McCain's pick of Palin makes a vote for him more doable.Posted by: Shelby | August 29, 2008 12:57 PM

This strategy pretty much describes the old adage about cutting your nose to spite your face.

John McCain: Anti-Abortion, Pro-Creationism, Against Equal Pay, More Tax Breaks for those making over $250K, against insurance for the uninsured familes, etc, etc, etc.

Remember McCain's joke about Chelsea???

And you're gonna vote for him because it's a vote against Obama???

Boy, stupidity doesn't even describe it. IF YOU REALLY ARE A HILLARY SUPPORTER.

Posted by: Chris, Atlanta, GA | August 29, 2008 1:43 PM | Report abuse

Wow! I did not see that one coming at all. Someone must have won big money in the veepstakes. I like the choice, it will be an interesting run from here on out. I don't think McCain's gonna win, but he's certainly doubling down on making it a crazy race. Cable news thanks you, John.

It's now a balanced contest. Newcomer picks old pro for VP, old pro picks newcomer for VP. And he could've picked a lot worse. Or maybe not, I'll have to hear her speak. As soon as she starts chanting bomb iran or holding up pictures of aborted fetuses I might have second thoughts, but everything I've seen so far - aside from the drill drill drill now platform - doesn't look too scary.

Posted by: Grimmix | August 29, 2008 1:42 PM | Report abuse


Sarah Palin is the most unqualified VP nominee in modern history, with the possible exception of Admiral Stockdale.

She's worse than Dan Quayle.

Posted by: Bush + Cheney = McCain | August 29, 2008 1:37 PM

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Ha ha ha! Yeah, it's better than having the most unqualified President candidate in modern history. Don't ya think, munchkin?

Posted by: Obama + Biden + Hat = A loquacious rabbit | August 29, 2008 1:42 PM | Report abuse

Give me a freaking break...
Sarah Palin is more experienced than Barack Obama to be President of the United States. She has executive experience, Obama's been a senator for 4 yrs. Some people commenting on this thread are obviously filled with disillusions.

Posted by: Ann Marie Curling | August 29, 2008 1:42 PM | Report abuse

This is rich. A beauty queen with no experience who is under investigation and is married to a big oil man.

Thank you John McCain!!

Posted by: Lori | August 29, 2008 1:42 PM | Report abuse

John McCain and Tina Fey!!!!

Posted by: JakeD's shadow | August 29, 2008 1:42 PM | Report abuse

Wait, this makes sense, McCain needs someone with security clearance and access to handle his email.

Posted by: BarryAZ | August 29, 2008 1:41 PM | Report abuse

This is a curious pick for McCain. True she is a governor. But of a very small state and this would equate to being mayor of a mid-sized American city. True she took on the Republicans in Alaska but that is different than taking on the Republican in Washington. I know what McCain is doing and I think many people are going to see this as pandering. I don't think this is going to change many minds.

Posted by: Ray | August 29, 2008 1:41 PM | Report abuse

Wait, this makes sense, McCain needs someone with security clearance and access to handle his email.

Posted by: Arizona | August 29, 2008 1:41 PM | Report abuse

Griffin wrote:

DEMOCRATS FOR MCCAIN!

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Griffin for NEO-CONSERVATISM.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 1:41 PM | Report abuse

You know the best part. it has been too soon to break her down. But the fact is, she is with Mccain on every issue, she is Mccain. Mccain is Bush, where is the change?

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Wait until the VP debates when Sarah Palin has Joe Biden on his kness crying for mercy. Some of you idiots are saying she has less experience than Obama. WRONG! She has more experience and will help bring McCain to victory on 4 November.

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Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 1:40 PM | Report abuse

Just vote Democrat or Republican and lets stop all the stupid little details of politics: like tax and spend liberal, or money grabbing rich conservatives. This is the election to vote for 8 years of the same (if you're happy) or vote them out!

Posted by: walterrock | August 29, 2008 1:40 PM | Report abuse

Palin is also a an ideologue, on choice, on the environment, on energy -- all the way down the line. This an ideological pick in an election where self-identified Republicans are a dying breed and Democratic self-identification is skyrocketing. McCain has abandoned any notion of playing for the center. He's looking to shore up his right flank and hoping that the Evangelical Right can somehow drag McCain's old butt over the line.

Posted by: Agent Orange | August 29, 2008 1:40 PM | Report abuse

America is going to LOVE her. Hockey Mom, working Mom, governor, patriot....She probably won't get the votes from the libeal NE and the Left Coast but she is a home run!

Posted by: daman1 | August 29, 2008 1:40 PM | Report abuse

Agree with comments that this pick seems totally contrived more than based on principle.

Also, while the VP job may nominally be as a mouthpiece and generally lacking in importance, that is absolutely not true when the presidential candidate is 72 years old and has a history of cancer.

Posted by: jg | August 29, 2008 1:39 PM | Report abuse

HMMM.

Looks like the Disgruntled Women Vote Dried up last NIGHT..

Republicans for Obama - Biden

Clean out the GOP -
Grumpy Old Pharts
Greedy Old Phart
Graying Old Pharts
Gasbag Old Pharts
Gaybashing Old Pharts

I

Posted by: ISA | August 29, 2008 1:39 PM | Report abuse

I, as a woman and Hillary supporter felt betrayed and bitter when Obama did not pick her for VP. However, due to my strong Democrat beliefs, I was still much on board with Obama, and he had my vote - Until today. Senator John McCain, by choosing a strong Woman in S. Palin as his VP has shown me that perhaps the Republicans see more clearly where this nation should be headed. McCain/Palin has won my vote!

Posted by: cbex | August 29, 2008 1:38 PM | Report abuse

If being a former community organizer is qualified enough to be president, then being Governor of Alaska is also experienced enough to be vice president ....on would hope.

Posted by: HaveItYourWay | August 29, 2008 1:38 PM | Report abuse

It is nice to be a cheer leader but you nave to get your head out of you a&&. Mccain just threw away any chance he may have had.

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Wait until the VP debates when Sarah Palin has Joe Biden on his kness crying for mercy. Some of you idiots are saying she has less experience than Obama. WRONG! She has more experience and will help bring McCain to victory on 4 November.

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Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 1:38 PM | Report abuse

A frightening choice, pure and simple. This woman is ready to be President?? ( a serious consideration given McCain's age) The GOP has played around enough. 8 years of George Bush has left this country in ruins -- this is no time to pick someone whose main experience is 18 mos. as Governor of Alaska. This insults the American people and makes a mockery of the office of Vice President. She's Dan Quayle in an updo.

Posted by: trace1 | August 29, 2008 1:37 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin is the most unqualified VP nominee in modern history, with the possible exception of Admiral Stockdale.

She's worse than Dan Quayle.

Posted by: Bush + Cheney = McCain | August 29, 2008 1:37 PM | Report abuse

OMG, it's Dan Quayle in a tiara!

With a gun!

Posted by: Doodah | August 29, 2008 1:37 PM | Report abuse

Palin may be inexperienced on a national level, but the position of vp does not carry the same burden of responsibility that the position of president does and she has a great running mate with which to gain experience without screwing up the country. The same cannot be said for Obama; his obvious inexperience--coupled with his naivete, his dangerous leanings and associations, his habitual sudden switches to whatever political views will garner him support from needed voting blocs, his thinly-disguised sexism and racism, his reliance on showboating and speeches, as opposed to actual substance, and his neo-nazi tactics in hijacking the Democratic Party and controlling the media--make him an appalling choice for president. And for those who fear McCain will drop dead in the middle of his first term, don't hold your breath. That man is in extremely good health, both mentally and physically, and will likely last through two terms without a hitch. Then, Sarah Palin, having gained valuable experience under his guidance, can serve her two terms. DEMOCRATS FOR MCCAIN!

Posted by: Griffin | August 29, 2008 1:36 PM | Report abuse

I hope the Obama team is smart enough to handle this surprising development the way Bill Clinton handled the VP comparison in 1992.

That year, Clinton said that the public had a good chance to evaluate the presidential candidates in terms of comparing how they made the VP decision, their first truly presidential decision. He said he was very proud and satisfied to have picked Al Gore, and invited voters to make up their own minds about President Bush's decision to pick Dan Quayle and Ross Perot's choice of Admiral Stockdale.

Point made.

Posted by: Fairfax Voter | August 29, 2008 1:35 PM | Report abuse

I was really looking forward to an interesting discourse between now and the election. McCain had so many choices that could have provided a reasonable argument for his presidency over Obama. From everything that I have read since the announcement, it seems that McCain has proven that he lacks the ability to choose wisely. This could have been a great, historic race. Now defying his own propaganda, McCain has selected a vice president that has no experience, no record of national importance, is the polar opposite of HRC...what were you thinking Grandpa? In one "bold" move McCain has proven that he is too old, too out of touch, well, just about everything "too" that you can think of, to be president. This is the best news Obama and Biden could have possibly received. Thank you Sen. McCain, you have sealed the deal for Obama to win. Maybe it wasn't such a bad choice after all.

Posted by: TaylorBurton | August 29, 2008 1:35 PM | Report abuse

All this does is show that politics is so corrupt. People will do anything to become president of the united states. None of these people will solve america's problems. There is no sense going on any further with this. You will not listen!!

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 1:35 PM | Report abuse

Wait until the VP debates when Sarah Palin has Joe Biden on his kness crying for mercy. Some of you idiots are saying she has less experience than Obama. WRONG! She has more experience and will help bring McCain to victory on 4 November.

Posted by: Ken | August 29, 2008 1:34 PM | Report abuse

The gynocracy will not be amused by his pick...Pander Bear really stepped in it this time...

Now let's hear all that jive about Obama's lack of experience...

Posted by: braultrl | August 29, 2008 1:34 PM | Report abuse

I can already see them attacking her on experience. As the pull all the minutes of her meetings from when she was mayor of a town of 8000. Those important late light meetings about where to place a stop sign. After the novelty wares off in like three days, people will all of a sudden say to them salves, " Wait a minute, WTF just happened". She will be so easy to beat it is a joke. It is all on John Mccain now to pull this off and he wasn't looking to as it is.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 1:34 PM | Report abuse

Why do all you Libs think that just because she is a woman it is a play for Hillary's supporters? Isn't that in itself sexist thinking and assumes if she is a woman she COULDN'T have any other qualifications? You are being sexist yourselves. Illogical.

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Yea right. I'm sure MsShame picked her because she is the most experienced to take on the job for the oldest man ever to run for the presidency. I also have a bridge to sell you in Brooklyn.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 1:33 PM | Report abuse

Anonymous wrote: "So now we elect a President if the generals like them. If that was the case, why put Obama as the front man. I would think the generals would prefer McCain over Obama."

Why would they prefer McCain? As as pilot, McCain took orders, rather than gave orders; as a pilot, McCain flew the mission, rather than developed and coordinated the mission. As a pilot, McCain did not participate in the strategic planning and execution of the war. Pilots have no leadership role in war--they are soldiers in planes. McCain has no special qualifications to make him Commander in Chief.

Posted by: Catherine | August 29, 2008 1:33 PM | Report abuse

It's not just about "getting a woman in the White House," for crap's sake! It's about choosing a moral, wise, intelligent team to repair and manage this country. Palin's anti-gay, anti-choice, anti-environmental-responsibility tenets are a combination of laughable and terrifying.

Way to blatantly court myopic Hillary supporters, McCain. OB-VI-OUS!

Hillary-to-McCain supporters, you should be sent to a remote island and deprived of your (horribly misaligned) voting privileges. In the milleu of this election, being a true feminist cretainly does not mean blindly supporting someone based on their gender -- it means making responsible and well-thought-out choices.

Posted by: cloud | August 29, 2008 1:33 PM | Report abuse

I'm upholding my feminist flag in the name of equality in that childbearing should not be a factor in anything.

McCain, if you asks me, is USING a woman to get women's vote.

Ideology over Gender.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 1:33 PM | Report abuse

While I do agree that one does need experience to be President, Vice President is definitely an apprentice type job. We vote for the President, the VP, for the most part, acts only as a mouthpiece and aide to the President. Those who are trying to play the experience card all of a sudden, when they thought it was not important for the number one person on the ticket, are being wholly disingenuous. Palin = VP nominee; Obama = President nominee; therefore, no comparison!! (Besides, everyone always complains about McCain being too old; he just injected some youth into the campaign, so shut up.)

What if something happens to McCain? What happens if something to Obama?

Posted by: MILLER123 | August 29, 2008 1:33 PM | Report abuse

Wikipedia reports that she admitted to using(not merely trying)pot when it was legal in Alaska. She went on to say she didn't like it! Tell me; would you keep on buying and drinking Pepsi if you didn't like it? Sounds like more Republican dishonesty! Keep in mind that Wiki was validated by professors about a year ago as reasonably accurate!

Posted by: Jason | August 29, 2008 1:33 PM | Report abuse

I don't think this chucks the experience argument out of the window, but instead, magnifies it even more.

She's running for VICE-President and NOT President, which is a big difference.

She has time for "on the job training" unless you're expecting McCain to die one day one.

Obama has no time for "on the job training" because he has to be President from day one.

Her experience is as an executive, first as a mayor and then as governor of a state. That's like running a mini-version of a country.

Obama's experience is in the legislature where he's not running anything except his own office.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 1:32 PM | Report abuse

Wow the repubs are desperate. People need to really come out and say exactly what this is a desperate cry for help. It is judgement and McCain's maverick judgement has again failed him.

Sarah Palin taking on Putin. What a joke.

Posted by: james - Los Angeles | August 29, 2008 1:27 PM
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From what I've seen of this woman's characte I would bet on Palin.

Posted by: daman1 | August 29, 2008 1:32 PM | Report abuse


McCain can't be serious. A person that's been a governor for just two years? This is a gimmick that just illustrates what poor judgment McCain has. It's an insult to voters.

Posted by: Jay | August 29, 2008 12:51 PM

Dem's can't be serious. A person that's been senator for just 4 years? Talk about a Gimmick. All BARAK HUSSEIN OBAMA has is good speech writers. Let's talk about his support of his brother and cousin killing Christians in Africa and wanting to impose Sharia law. Where are those stories????

Posted by: hah | August 29, 2008 1:32 PM | Report abuse

Great pick. Pure backcountry charm. The Obama team is already bumbling. Sneering at her for being from a small town? Hammering on the experience issue? Her experience seems about equivalent to, if not a bit better than, Obama's when he announced for president. And her history in public life doesn't have the same reek of ambition and smugness.

Posted by: bri | August 29, 2008 1:31 PM | Report abuse

I forgot... Putin likes the Outdoors, this makes so much sense now.. she can have him over do some fishing in the pond and have a chat snuggling up to the fire roasting marshmallows...

This was an insult to all Americans

Posted by: erik | August 29, 2008 1:31 PM | Report abuse

Maritza: "Many religious conservatives prefer to keep their women at home"

And many liberals prefer to condescend, stereotype and demean. "Our" women can and do work at everything their male counterparts do.

But I admit, I wouldn't mind if you stayed home.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 1:31 PM | Report abuse

WOW, what a pick of desparation! After making fun of Obama for being inexperienced, he picks someone who has even LESS experience; someone whose "experience" is limited to serving as mayor of a SMALL town in ALASKA and less than 2 years as Governor of Alaska. OK, for all of you who claim that Obama has nothing to hang his hat on, what exactly is it that Palin has? And don't tell me "she reached across the isle to change things in Alaska".

So I guess the only change the McSame campaign can tout is that they want to change the sex of the occupant of the office of the VP from male to female.

Oh, and is it just me, or does McSame look like a dirty old man when he stands next to Palin with that creepy smile of his?

Posted by: PeixeGato | August 29, 2008 1:31 PM | Report abuse

I can't wait for the VP debates!!!!

Posted by: Joyce | August 29, 2008 1:31 PM | Report abuse


"With Palin as the pick, the experiance argument goes flying out the window."

Hardly.

The inexperienced junior senator is running for president.

The inexperienced Palin is running for VP.

Posted by: WylieD | August 29, 2008 1:31 PM | Report abuse

Interesting the repugs see her only endearing quality as being sexy and hot. More importantly, does Herr Karl and Limpbaugh approve? McSame is saving Liberboy for Secretary of Whining.

Posted by: adevine | August 29, 2008 1:30 PM | Report abuse

MILLER123 excellent point. I guess we feel we have to answer all these stupid accusations. It might be a better conversation if we were really well informed and stuck to voting record rather than the "show." Food for thought for me as well as others.

I just know this, I have to have trust in my candidate but that is lost on both these guys (thank you 2 party system) I have no other choice so it is a choice between Obama pushed by "screaming people from Hollywood" and a McCain pushed by people with "mean looks on their faces." Just quoting a couple talk show quotes from both sides.

Posted by: No Name | August 29, 2008 1:30 PM | Report abuse

Senator McCain, what a maverick move! Now,
Governor Palin is a very interesting choice. She brings gender and diversity to the Republican Party. Her husband is an Eskimo. Senator McCain promotes real change; not just words like Obama. As a former Senator Hillary Clinton supporter, and a Pro-Life Democrat, I admire Governor Palin's story.
Now, Mitt Rommney should be the next US Secreatary of Treasury!

Posted by: mmarri | August 29, 2008 1:29 PM | Report abuse

This is a good pick for the dems because it gives them one more angle to attack McCain -- that his attacks on Obama's lack of experience were just another case of McCain being willing to say anything to get elected -- and it takes away what was probably McCain's best avenue of attack on Obama. This race is still going to be about McCain v. Obama and in that regard I think this helps.

I think what Obama shouldn't do is to attack Palin. I don't think he needs to focus on the veep at all and any attacks on her could piss off moderate women.

This brings Hillary back to the stage. It will be a fight between Hillary and Palin

Posted by: MILLER123 | August 29, 2008 1:29 PM | Report abuse

I am surprised how everyone is jumping to conclusions about Palin's lack of experience. OK, she is a new-comer. But what if McCain had chosen an "experienced" running mate. Would we cheer, or be disgruntled about the choice of an "old-fogie".

The President runs the show, the VP is staff to compliment the President. In this case, Obama is still at a disadvantage to McCain in the "experience" factor.

A good leader will always "staff" their weaknesses. Obama embraced this concept by selecting Biden as his running mate. McCain is doing the same, bringing in a youger and female voice to an inner circle dominated by older men.

Posted by: Moondawg_USN | August 29, 2008 1:29 PM | Report abuse

OK Forget the experience argument, let's compare accomplishments!

Posted by: Doc | August 29, 2008 1:29 PM | Report abuse

As a woman and an American I am thoroughly insulted by the McCain/Palin presumption that I will flip-flop in my beliefs and vote McSame into the White House just because he picked Sara Palin. McCain calls that reaching across the aisle. I call it just plain reaching.

As a former Hillary supporter I am now giving 100% of my support to my Democratic Party's decision to choose Obama. I am more than confident that they will restore our nation once again to a time of, and I quote Pres. Bill Clinton, "a nation of prosperity and wealth."

That the Republicans believe I would trade that for a Mini-McCain is ridiculous. And that Palin herself thinks she is in the same league as Hillary is absurd.

It is even more presumptuous of the McCain/Palin team to assume that all women with children have shared the same experiences and therefore as women we must have much more in common with her than with a family man like Senator Obama.
Though it is wonderful that Sarah Palin has been able to "move forward" despite her decision not to abort her Down Syndrome child, many more families who have chosen the same path for their Down Syndrome children do not have her comprehensive benefits, or her fine home, and are forced to face the cold hard facts about their lack of health insurance or the poor coverage of their current insurance. Families who care for disabled children face an urgent need for a reformed, comprehensive health coverage system in order to ensure their children's survival.
Shame on McCain - shame on them both.

Posted by: Peakmom | August 29, 2008 1:29 PM | Report abuse

This is such a red letter day: Barack Obama hit it out of the park, literally and figuratively last night and McCain panics and picks Palin ... great day to be a Democrat!

Posted by: Miss Congeniality | August 29, 2008 1:15 PM

---yeah I heard Opra cried and Jessica alba was beside herself. I think Opra also used the phrase transcendent as in "diety".
I was waiting for "the Ob" to descend on a cloud. What a scammer. He's surrounded by veteran washington politicians picks a classic politico as a vp but "ob" is diff what a load of....

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 1:28 PM | Report abuse

She just called "I am so proud of John F Mccain"
I guess she thinks she is running with Kennedy.

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My guess is that McCain wanted someone whose gaffes based on lack of familiarity with the international landscape will overshadow his own (e.g., needing Lieberman to remind him that Al Quaeda's in Afghanistan, not in Iraq). That way when he looks flustered at the dais, it will pass for intelligence.

Posted by: More_skeptical_than_enthusiastic | August 29, 2008 1:26 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 1:28 PM | Report abuse

Positives:

1. She allows McCain to double down on the "maverick/outsider" message.
2. She has a short paper trail.
3. She shores up the social conservative base.
4. She's the only non-senator on either ticket and can't be tarred as a Washington insider.

Negatives:

1. She has possible ethics problems
2. She neutralizes the youth and inexperience arguments.
3. Nobody knows who she is.
4. This may be seen as pandering to Clinton diehards.
5. She undercuts GOP's image of being strong on terrorism and national defense.
6. The VP debate may turn into Bentsen vs. Quayle revisited.

Read more of my analysis here:

http://www.theseventen.com/2008/08/mccain-palin-analysis.html

Posted by: theseventen | August 29, 2008 1:28 PM | Report abuse

It's telling that Obama had to pick someone with 20+ years experience to make up for his lack of experience while McCain was comfortable picking someone with roughly comparable (but different) experience to Obama. It gives both tickets the same amount of experience, the difference being that VPs do very very little. In other words, if you worry about experience, you would worry about something happening to McCain if elected, but you would worry much more about electing Obama at all.

Posted by: Jo | August 29, 2008 1:28 PM | Report abuse

^^^ What if Obama's Conscience Spoke at the Same Time? ^^^
^^^ Annotated transcript from Obama's speech ^^^

"Four years ago, I stood before you and told you my story -- of the brief union between a young man from Kenya and a young woman from Kansas who weren't well-off or well-known, but shared a belief that in America, their son could achieve whatever he put his mind to."

--Four years ago, I laid a big one on you out of my fictionalized life story that I made about my drunken, polygamist, already-married Kenyan father who knocked up my then-17-year-old mother and then abandoned us..

"It is that promise that has always set this country apart -- that through hard work and sacrifice, each of us can pursue our individual dreams but still come together as one American family, to ensure that the next generation can pursue their dreams as well."

--And where people like me can get ahead on racial preference and affirmative action, so that we advance without ever actually doing anything resembling hard work and sacrifice like you people!

"It is why I stand here tonight. Because for 232 years, at each moment when that promise was in jeopardy, ordinary men and women -- students and soldiers, farmers and teachers, nurses and janitors -- found the courage to keep it alive."

--And support the undeserved advancement and also pay for my racial preference scholarships and all the gravy train that has come my way over the years! The donations of millions of african american supporters -- students and soldiers, farmers and teachers, nurses and janitors -- paid my campaign the $6 million that it cost to move my nominating night event from the Pepsi arena to Invesco field for my Greco-Roman crowning!

"We meet at one of those defining moments -- a moment when our nation is at war, our economy is in turmoil, and the American promise has been threatened once more."

--And the Democratic party is nominating a president with no experience or qualifications that might make him a credible executive!! I couldn't get hired to run a factory!! Ha Ha!

"Tonight, more Americans are out of work and more are working harder for less. More of you have lost your homes and more are watching your home values plummet. More of you have cars you can't afford to drive, credit card bills you can't afford to pay and tuition that is beyond your reach"

--And yet you have sent $400 million to my presidential campaign! That I keep spending on helping the voters get to know me better! As if that's the problem! What suckers!

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In David Mendell's 2007 biography, Obama, it was reported that Obama was a B student whose grades slipped so far below a B at High School that in his final year his grandmother feared he would not get into a university. The chapter ends with him being accepted into Occidental on a full scholarship.

The NYT has published a letter written by Obama in 1990, that discusses his own experiences with affirmative action.

(http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/03/us/politics/03affirmative.html?_r=2&em=&oref=slogin&pagewanted=print&oref=slogin)

Mr. Obama quote: “[I] undoubtedly benefited from affirmative action” in [my] own academic career.

Posted by: Barack Obama's Conscience | August 29, 2008 1:27 PM | Report abuse

Wow the repubs are desperate. People need to really come out and say exactly what this is a desperate cry for help. It is judgement and McCain's maverick judgement has again failed him.

Sarah Palin taking on Putin. What a joke.

Posted by: james - Los Angeles | August 29, 2008 1:27 PM | Report abuse

Already I'm offended by this Neo-Conservative.

Posted by: Hillary 2012 or 2016 | August 29, 2008 1:27 PM | Report abuse

Hey... policy not griping about silly issues. JM/Palin are no friends to women and women's rights.
> Please send this on to any woman you know who is considering voting for McCain/Palin – they are no supporters of women's rights! The following information came from interviews with McCain and his voting record.
>
> His record on health issues for women and families is poor. McCain voted at least six times to reduce, eliminate or restrict health insurance programs for low-income children and pregnant women. In August 2007, he again voted against a bill to expand coverage of SCHIP.
> On issues related to abortion and even birth control and sex
> education, McCain is as ideological as any right-wing extremist. John McCain voted to ban abortion even in cases of rape, incest, or when a woman's life is in danger.
> He has repeatedly voted against allowing women to obtain birth
> control, including a 2003 vote against requiring insurance companies to cover oral
> contraceptives and a 2005 vote against providing emergency contraception for > rape survivors.
> He stated, "I will appoint strict constructionist judges that won't legislate from the bench."
>
> The fate of a woman's right to control her own body and make her own choices rests in the hands of those who are willing to ensure victory for Obama.
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Posted by: jersey john | August 29, 2008 1:27 PM | Report abuse

While I do agree that one does need experience to be President, Vice President is definitely an apprentice type job. We vote for the President, the VP, for the most part, acts only as a mouthpiece and aide to the President. Those who are trying to play the experience card all of a sudden, when they thought it was not important for the number one person on the ticket, are being wholly disingenuous. Palin = VP nominee; Obama = President nominee; therefore, no comparison!! (Besides, everyone always complains about McCain being too old; he just injected some youth into the campaign, so shut up.)

Posted by: Niko_in_Oakland | August 29, 2008 1:27 PM | Report abuse

Look at the organzition that Obama ran. Look at the organization McCain is running.

Posted by: MILLER123 | August 29, 2008 1:27 PM | Report abuse

Not only that but she has a flat spot on top of her head to put your beer glass.

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It took a while to grow on me, but I spoke to some who know about her and I'm sold. McCain/Palin 2008. I love Palin! Let's take this train to the White House.

Posted by: dcp | August 29, 2008 1:21 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 1:27 PM | Report abuse

My guess is that McCain wanted someone whose gaffes based on lack of familiarity with the international landscape will overshadow his own (e.g., needing Lieberman to remind him that Al Quaeda's in Afghanistan, not in Iraq). That way when he looks flustered at the dais, it will pass for intelligence.

Posted by: More_skeptical_than_enthusiastic | August 29, 2008 1:26 PM | Report abuse

This is a good pick for the dems because it gives them one more angle to attack McCain -- that his attacks on Obama's lack of experience were just another case of McCain being willing to say anything to get elected -- and it takes away what was probably McCain's best avenue of attack on Obama. This race is still going to be about McCain v. Obama and in that regard I think this helps.

I think what Obama shouldn't do is to attack Palin. I don't think he needs to focus on the veep at all and any attacks on her could piss off moderate women.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 1:26 PM | Report abuse

John hit a homerun Obama just bunted.

Posted by: MIKE | August 29, 2008 1:26 PM | Report abuse

Jeez wrote:

"People in that demographic don't care about experience-- after all, if you have conversations with Jesus why would you need experience?! And, sadly, those people, plus any racists, and soccer-moms who view Palfin's "soccer motherhood" as enough of a qualification, are numerous enough to tip the scales against Obama in November. Some of the naysayers on this board have a short memory, otherwise they'd remember that most of the American electorate doesn't consider silly things like competence or experience when they vote in presidential elections-- how quick you are to forget 2000 and '04....

Oh god, Jeez, how sadly sadly sadly I agree with you-experience, competence, wide ranging knowledge in those areas foreign policy, the economy-they just aren't important-I think McCain so blew it-but it seems obviously he was going for the Christian Right-I also believe the horrible one-Cheney-actually approved this pick!

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 1:25 PM | Report abuse

I'm more than a little quizzical about McCain's choice. I'll readily admit that at face value, there's some logic behind it: governors (rather than senators) have executive experience, popular Republican governors are hard to come by, and Palin's gender forces voters to look at the calculus of the race again. However, each one of those points can be turned on its head.

First, Palin has been chief executive of the second-smallest state in the Union for 1.5 years. Previously serving as the mayor of a small town doesn't add much to that deficit. Second, her popularity shouldn't be shocking to those even mildly acquainted with Alaska politics (the state naturally favors Republicans). Finally, I find it very hard to believe that scores of other women will justify voting for McCain because his VP shares their gender. That's not enough.

I also agree with posters who question the overall strategy of the pick. What does this bring McCain? Not any of the battleground states, from what I can see. Palin has low name recognition. And Alaska was already going to give its three (yes, just three) electoral votes to McCain.

I seriously question this move by McCain. At this point in the race, it feels more contrived than inspired.

Posted by: Adanielch | August 29, 2008 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Obama supporters keep talking about Hillary supporters as if the only reason we supported her was her gender. Why in the world would you be so convinced people want to vote for someone who looks like them? Surely none of Obama's supporters are doing that?

What Obama supporters refuse to get is that Clinton's "die-hard" supporters don't like Obama. That's not because of Clinton, that's because of Obama.

I don't agree with Palin on a lot of issues, such as gay marriage, abortion and drilling in Alaska. But I do agree with her on other issues and I admire her demonstrated commitment to ethics.

If this election was between Palin and Biden (or McCain and Biden,) I'd vote Biden. If it was between McCain and Palin, I'd vote McCain. If it was between Obama and anybody else - I'd vote anybody else. So, her addition to the McCain ticket isn't what's getting this Clinton supporter's vote. But nothing on this planet could make me cast a vote for Obama.

Posted by: Lynn | August 29, 2008 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Yup, Kennedy may have won because Nixon had a 5 oclock shadow.
Yup, that 4% of women who may be un-educated, but will loudly praise the fact that a women was nomiated for VP, they will vote for McCain because of that!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Hillary watch out. Bill is thing....

Posted by: ding | August 29, 2008 1:25 PM | Report abuse

There are more people in PG County than Alaska...and 2 years ago she was the mayor of a town of 6,000???

McCain is the one who has made an issue of experience, not Democrats. Either he doesn't really believe it is important or he doesn't believe the vice president is an important office.

Posted by: Edward | August 29, 2008 1:25 PM | Report abuse

She can bait her own hook, shoot Moose AND is hot! And she had her Down Syndrome baby rather than aborting it (or killing it after birth which Obama thinks is ok). Amazing woman!

Posted by: daman1 | August 29, 2008 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Palin just brought Hillary back on the scene. What a cat fight this is going to be.

Posted by: MILLER123 | August 29, 2008 1:25 PM | Report abuse

"And did I mention he's black?"

--Mr. Experience, in his own words

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 1:24 PM | Report abuse

Since the McCain camp argued that Obama's VP pick was tantamount to admitting that he didn't have enough experience to be commander-in-chief, McCain's VP pick must be seen as admitting that McCain is too old to be president.

As the oldest person to every run for the presidency, McCain has the recklesssness to put someone who is younger than Obama and has less credentials to possibly be a heartbeat away from the presidency. And he told us he put country first!

Posted by: Dave | August 29, 2008 1:24 PM | Report abuse

At the very least this gives McCain a desperately needed visual and auditory freshening---the palid mumbling McCain against that horrid green backdrop was not working. And it creates some kind of buzz for the convention, which seemed to be inevitably about little more than how McCain was a POW.

It seems the early talking point is about her child and abortion, which is bizarre and morbid. I think the real touchpoint here will be her husband's service in Iraq. It will be hard to get in her face about the failures there without being like, Oh, I don't mean your husband.

Posted by: dmw | August 29, 2008 1:24 PM | Report abuse

I enjoy the fact that so many commenters are noting that Governor Palin is pretty. I think that's the main reason why the GOP picked her. This is despite the fact that she comes from a state with rampant corruption at most levels of government, making Louisiana look tidy.

I also enjoy the fact that the GOP actually thinks their rank and file are going to support a ticket with a woman on it. If they want to keep evangelicals, they're shooting themselves in the foot! Many religious conservatives prefer to keep their women at home, and now the younger evangelicals are going green! Out on both counts.

This is now Obama's election to lose.

Posted by: Maritza | August 29, 2008 1:24 PM | Report abuse

Just think... She can teach us all how to skin a moose and ride a snowmobile all at the same time. Thanks John for picking somebody that really gets most of America.

Posted by: erik | August 29, 2008 1:23 PM | Report abuse

was that cash or check they gave the clintons wait till the debates will see about obama when he is alone.

Posted by: dlauer | August 29, 2008 1:23 PM | Report abuse

Anonymous

Lets also not forget when people voted for Kennedy over Nixon just because Nixon was sweating so much.

Posted by: YEp | August 29, 2008 1:23 PM | Report abuse

You are wrong because Obama has already endured all that, what does he care. He is open to pound her on the same issue.

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With Palin as the pick, the experiance argument goes flying out the window. I hope I'm wrong, but I think that we're going to see an onslaught of gutterball tactics from the McCain campain.

Posted by: Rahwaj | August 29, 2008 1:19 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 1:23 PM | Report abuse

Rev. Wright, Bill Ayers, Fr. Fleager.....she seems like such a breath of fresh air compared to Obama's cronies and old time Democratic politics. Great choice John! We've got the REAL CHANGE.

Posted by: daman1 | August 29, 2008 1:13 PM

Ok here we go. She's a muslim. No She's a christian. What did her pastor say? Who has she associated herself with 20 years ago.
You have to months to find out.

Posted by: MILLER123 | August 29, 2008 1:23 PM | Report abuse

As a former Hillary Clinton supporters i am baffled that MSM, the republican party and the trolls would think because i am a woman i would rush over to McCain-Palin. WRONG!!! I am supporting the democrat--period.

Posted by: Jen | August 29, 2008 1:23 PM | Report abuse


Palin is not well qualified to be president.

Like Obama.

Palin is not at the head of the ticket.

Unlike Obama.

Posted by: WylieD | August 29, 2008 1:22 PM | Report abuse

It took a while to grow on me, but I spoke to some who know about her and I'm sold. McCain/Palin 2008. I love Palin! Let's take this train to the White House.

Posted by: dcp | August 29, 2008 1:21 PM | Report abuse

McCain just wanted a woman appendage to serve as his nurse and attendant because as at his age and with his frail health, he needs round-the-clock care. More IF he makes it to the White House. Who's going to actually hear and answer the phone when it rings at 3:00 a.m.? Sarah of course! Move over Cindy the Maverick's got a new chick! What a stark comparison with a stateman like Biden, who actually knows where Georgia is on a map and can recall the names of world leaders. Don't you need credentials to qualify as a VP candidate? The Republicans are really the party of the uneducated!!!

Posted by: Irreverent_in_DC | August 29, 2008 1:21 PM | Report abuse

21 months as Governor and 6 years as mayor of a very small town.
Inexperienced.
Posted by: homer

150 working days in the U.S. Senate, most of which was spent campaining for a job above his pay grade.

A back-bencher in the Illinois legislature.

And.. a community oraganizer. Whatever the fudge that is.

I'm sorry. You were saying?


Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 1:21 PM | Report abuse

Hey AsperGirl -- when you're tired of spouting lies and half-truths, you might want to eductate yourself on a few facts. Barack Obama never even filled out the question on his Harvard Law School application that asked about his race? Affirmative action baby? Sorry ... not this guy, not no how. Idiot.

Posted by: Did I mention I'm a POW beauty queen? | August 29, 2008 1:21 PM | Report abuse

Don't be naive, she is in the pockets of oil. There is a surrogate on right now saying she was the head of a PTA and she would take that over Obama's experience any time. I swear to God, she just said that on Msnbc..

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Having a baby earlier this year with Down's Syndrome and as a mother who would really decide to run for National Office over taking care of this baby? What does this say about her?

Posted by: Tab L. Uno | August 29, 2008 1:18 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 1:21 PM | Report abuse

CVH

SO what are you? I would not turn my back to you; you might call me a name.

Posted by: NO name | August 29, 2008 1:21 PM | Report abuse

I get it! It's the "Paleo/Palin 2008" ticket.

Posted by: Karl | August 29, 2008 1:20 PM | Report abuse

And back in 92, a small percentage of the women of this country voted for Bill Clinton because he looked hotter than Bush I. People do not all vote rationally!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 1:20 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, I spoke too soon, I thought about that I decided to retract (so shoot me).

I do honestly see Obama as a junior senator running around agreeing with everyone. His voting record shows he has no uniqueness that makes him qualified. He votes the party line. Iwould rather see a Governor who runs a state as the VP than a done nothin Obama who does what he is told.

Posted by: OG | August 29, 2008 1:19 PM | Report abuse

I admit, McCain has surprised me, but I think Palin is a poor choice to be a heartbeat away from the presidency when her running mate is 72 years old.

Why do Republicans choose such terrible running mates? Agnew the crook, Quayle the idiot, Cheney the devil incarnate...

Posted by: CVH | August 29, 2008 1:19 PM | Report abuse

With Palin as the pick, the experiance argument goes flying out the window. I hope I'm wrong, but I think that we're going to see an onslaught of gutterball tactics from the McCain campain.

Posted by: Rahwaj | August 29, 2008 1:19 PM | Report abuse

Funny to read comments along lines of "do they really think women will vote for her just because of her gender?"
Like I'm sure 90% or so of African Americans coincidently plan to vote for Obama in spite of (not because of) his skin color. Some are indeed motivated at least partly by racial/gender identity, and is their right.

Dems are just sweating because this pick at least won't alienate most women, might even pick up a few, but most certainly will endear him to conservatives and many independents. Also shores up his "maverick" stance, she's got that rep if none other.

Yes she's relatively inexperienced, but I'd be more comfortable with inexperience at the bottom of the ticket (McCain) than at the top (Obama) any day. Besides, at a time when voter disaffection with Washington is at all-time highs, experience certainly isn't automatically an asset.

Posted by: jesuguru | August 29, 2008 1:19 PM | Report abuse

Uh... I have a vagina. Hillary has a vagina. Oooh - so does Sarah!

Anyone convinced by this choice is too stupid to vote.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 1:18 PM | Report abuse

It's insulting to think -- or even speculate -- that the choice of a woman will attract former Clinton supporters. We backed her because of her positions on the issues and because of her capabilities and experience -- not simply because she was a woman.

Posted by: Carol | August 29, 2008 1:18 PM | Report abuse

Why do all you Libs think that just because she is a woman it is a play for Hillary's supporters? Isn't that in itself sexist thinking and assumes if she is a woman she COULDN'T have any other qualifications? You are being sexist yourselves. Illogical.

Posted by: daman1 | August 29, 2008 1:18 PM | Report abuse

It is about time we had the elite (not elitists) in power. One of the best predictors of success at work is the type and quality of education.

Take a look at the educational resumes:

McCain:
United States Naval Academy, Annapolis.
Class rank: Fifth from the bottom, 894 out of 899

Obama:
Harvard Law School
Editor Harvard Law Review
JD from Harvard magna cum laude (latin for "With great honor")

Biden:
JD Syracuse University College of Law

Palin:
BA in journalism from University of Idaho

Posted by: teferet | August 29, 2008 1:18 PM | Report abuse

Rev. Wright, Bill Ayers, Fr. Fleager.....she seems like such a breath of fresh air compared to Obama's cronies and old time Democratic politics. Great choice John! We've got the REAL CHANGE.

Posted by: daman1 | August 29, 2008 1:13 PM

Ok here we go. She's a muslim. No She's a christian. What did her pastor say? Who has she associated herself with 20 years ago.

Posted by: MILLER123 | August 29, 2008 1:18 PM | Report abuse

Wow, you people are crazy. Re-thinking your presidential choice because this man chose a woman? When I first heard of his decision I thought that everyone would see through the clear attempt to pull Hillary voters. But clearly people are stupid. That is what this election has come down to. People are really stupid. Women are upset with Obama because he WON (not given) the nomination, against a 2 headed monster of Hillary and Bill. And in order to "punish" him, they will chose to vote for McCain, who represents all that is wrong with our nation. Cmon...really!?!! REALLY!?! Inflation? Recession? Weak Dollar? You would really want to deal with more of this, in order to "teach" this man a lesson of why not to win a contest? Simply, idiotic.

Posted by: MDBuckeye421 | August 29, 2008 1:18 PM | Report abuse

It is good to see Senator McCain concede the point that people with limited years in government are capable of being effective leaders.

Perhaps with Gov Palin's addition the campaign will turn to a discussion of policy rather than personal attacks.

Posted by: bsimon | August 29, 2008 1:18 PM | Report abuse

She stands for everything Hillary was against. Anyone who votes for her would never have voted for Obama anyway. She doesn't get any real votes for him.

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Why would Hillary Clinton supporters--disgruntled or not--opt for a woman who is anti-choice?

Posted by: JMorogiell | August 29, 2008 1:15 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 1:18 PM | Report abuse

Having a baby earlier this year with Down's Syndrome and as a mother who would really decide to run for National Office over taking care of this baby? What does this say about her?

Posted by: Tab L. Uno | August 29, 2008 1:18 PM | Report abuse

Can Palin mind the store if McCain is incapacitated?

Posted by: beavery | August 29, 2008 1:17 PM | Report abuse

96% of Hillary supporters will not switch to McCain. But in a close race, that very small percent would make a difference. If 2000 more men in Florida voted for Gore, we would never have had doah-doah for president.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 1:17 PM | Report abuse

Poor Libs, can't even see the impending defeat welling up right in your face.

You are all a bunch of utter poltroons.

but thanks for getting rid of the Clintons, for a few years anyway. We owe you for that. too bad you had to committ suicide to do it.

Posted by: kingofzouk | August 29, 2008 1:17 PM | Report abuse

I know that only a extremely small number of people watched the Democratic Convention.

Following are keynote speakers that you missed and topics:

Marion Barry --- Drug Abuse

Rep. Denny Kucinich --- How to garner 1 % of the vote in every primary entered

Sen. Chrissy Dodd --- Obtaining Countrywide loans

Sen. Chucky Schumer --- How to initiate a run on a bank

Jesse Jackson ---- Marital fidelity and Castration

John Edwards ---- Ambulance Chasing and Spousal support in time of need

Sen. Theodore Kennedy --- Driver education and How to stop a pending autopsy

James McGreevey ---- Gay rights

Mayor Ray Nagin --- Emergency evacuation preparations

Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick – Email etiquette in the workplace

Al Sharpton ---- Race relations

Sen. Evan Bayh --- How to ignore the Liberal wing of the Democratic Party and support the war in Iraq

Al Gore --- Snow Removal

Louis Farrakhan --- Muslims in America and Muslim in the White House

Sarah Palin is extremely good looking and sexy

Posted by: gary | August 29, 2008 1:17 PM | Report abuse

What is one responsible for in the lowest populated state in the country????

Step1... Drill there
Step2... Not there
Step3... Stop shooting at the bears!!
Step4... Go to sleep & prepare to wake up


Posted by: erik | August 29, 2008 1:17 PM | Report abuse

Actually it's not Obama nor McCain who don´t get it.

After reading some of the comments in this board I'm convinced it's those who made those comments here who don't get it. The country is beginning to change before your eyes. See what is happenning it with the new eyes it deserves.

Go Obama! Go Palin!

Posted by: Desertserpent | August 29, 2008 1:17 PM | Report abuse

McCain's pick reminds me of Mondale-Ferraro 84' And, well, we all know where that train wreck went.

Posted by: Eli | August 29, 2008 1:16 PM | Report abuse

How very interesting to see the endless sexist remarks made here. Very revealing indeed.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 1:16 PM | Report abuse

With Palin on the trail with McCain, look for the old guy to be groping for snatch.

Posted by: Rich Thompson | August 29, 2008 1:16 PM | Report abuse

This pick has nothing to do with what is good for the country. We already know she got him a lot of money from the oil companies for his campaign. By the way, wait till next week and the Enquire is doing interviews with every guy she ever dated. She will reduce the respect of being the nominee to nothing more them a tabloid headline. This is really going to be good.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 1:16 PM | Report abuse

21 months as Governor and 6 years as mayor of a very small town.

Inexperienced.

Posted by: homer | August 29, 2008 1:15 PM | Report abuse

I haven't stopped grinning since I heard this news -- there goes the whole "experience" argument right out the window as we celebrate the 4 time cancer survivor McCain's 72d birthday today. And do you REALLY believe those PUMAs who are so dedicated to Hillary Clinton are going to be won over by a former beauty queen who has less experience than Barack Obama? Whose 5th child, with Down Syndrome, was born in April? I have known families who have struggled with the gift of a disabled child and it is no easy road to hoe. I guess she is putting "Country First" 'cause she sure ain't putting her family at the top of her list. And the reformer who's currently under investigation for misusing her office (even if the guy was an abuser, she could have gone through the proper channels to help her sister out). This is such a red letter day: Barack Obama hit it out of the park, literally and figuratively last night and McCain panics and picks Palin ... great day to be a Democrat!

Posted by: Miss Congeniality | August 29, 2008 1:15 PM | Report abuse

Why would Hillary Clinton supporters--disgruntled or not--opt for a woman who is anti-choice?

Posted by: JMorogiell | August 29, 2008 1:15 PM | Report abuse

Can anyone say "gimmick pick"?

This makes Ferraro and Quayle look like FDR and Thomas Jefferson.

Posted by: AxelDC | August 29, 2008 1:14 PM | Report abuse

Hillary is a woman. Palin is just a hottie.
This pick is desperate and risky. The inexperience argument goes out the window for good. McCain can no longer ridicule Obama.

Posted by: Lanie | August 29, 2008 1:14 PM | Report abuse

Sooo...She's a hockey Mom and her husband is a world class snowmobile racer...stereotypically, which is actually typically, speaking, this is not the personality type that I would prefer to have represent me, especially on the world stage, let alone nationally.

The republicans will try to paint her as someone that will be able to relate with "typical" middle class Americans, but nothing could be farther from the truth. Afterall, she's the governor of freakin Alaska! How could someone be more far removed from mainstream America. Her state will be somewhat safer during a nuclear holocaust.

Posted by: Hess | August 29, 2008 1:14 PM | Report abuse

For those of you saying she doesn't have the experience to face Putin. McCain does and she has time to grow in the job. The real question is does Obama have the balls to do so. She has shown in her careerm from what I have read, to stand up for what she thinks is right, she is against pork-barrel spending and has shown in the pst she has the moral fortitude to make hard and right choices.

Posted by: podunksunshine | August 29, 2008 1:14 PM | Report abuse

YAWN.

McCain picks someone who spews "Dubya-speak" even more than himself.

YAWN.

Posted by: Donny | August 29, 2008 1:14 PM | Report abuse

Ploy, did I say ploy? I regret that. This is the ticket!!

Posted by: ASinMoCo | August 29, 2008 1:14 PM | Report abuse

I agree with Gary. If McCain was a couple of decades younger, this would've been a great pick and my vote would've faltered to the Republicans. But her...I guess I have to hear/learn more about her.

Posted by: passerby | August 29, 2008 1:14 PM | Report abuse

Rev. Wright, Bill Ayers, Fr. Fleager.....she seems like such a breath of fresh air compared to Obama's cronies and old time Democratic politics. Great choice John! We've got the REAL CHANGE.

Posted by: daman1 | August 29, 2008 1:13 PM | Report abuse

to kingofzouk,

Liberals didn't turn inexperience into a campaign issue, McCain did. And now he's chosen an inexperienced nobody as his VP. He just neutralized the strongest argument he had against Obama. Sounds like he's the one that needs to do a little more thinking.

Posted by: OG | August 29, 2008 1:13 PM | Report abuse

You guys don't seem to get it. She has the highest approval rating (80%) of any governor. She has been cleaning up a mess in the state and that includes Republicans. She knew she would have a beautiful baby and did not abort it. She is Christian. Her husband is blue collarat BP so she understands the Middle class. Her husband is Alaskan Indian so she clearly has an affinity for people not just a segment of the people. She knows Russia becuase she is not too far from Russia and that is an Alaskan issue due to proximity. She is very strong in economics which is what foreign policy is all about. She is a great fit and she is fit herself. She is not Washington so that fits with a change. She is a woman; I can't believe we might have a female VP. You can take issue with her selection but that is from those predisposed. There could not be a more Cross the Aisle choice while still upholding the ideals.

Posted by: RYan | August 29, 2008 1:13 PM | Report abuse

This bimbo is a criminal who had her ex brother in law fired after her sister divorced him. Nice choice McSame...why not just hand the presidency to Obama?

Posted by: she's a Bim | August 29, 2008 1:13 PM | Report abuse

Is Cindy scared? This woman is awfully pretty. That qualifies her to be a heartbeat away from the Presidency.

Posted by: SheikJabouti | August 29, 2008 1:12 PM | Report abuse

Palin may be a young and pretty VP candidate, but she remains an ultra conservative on social issues. She is more conservative than McCain. I believe she will turn off most Hillary supporters.

Posted by: Michel | August 29, 2008 1:12 PM | Report abuse

Palin verses Biden on who can run the Oval office if something, God forbid, was to happen to their candidate.. Wow! My next book will be entitled "Choosing VPs For Dummies"

Posted by: MILLER123 | August 29, 2008 1:12 PM | Report abuse

Maybe she will get fake t8t's... that will work with the demographic well.

Posted by: erik | August 29, 2008 1:12 PM | Report abuse

Strength and EXPERIENCE! oh, wait, never mind...

Posted by: McCain | August 29, 2008 1:11 PM | Report abuse

"Political appointment." Desperate, and idiotic. A senile old man and a bimbo.

Posted by: auramac | August 29, 2008 1:11 PM | Report abuse

I think women supporters of Hillary that think will join her in supporting Obama. Governor Palin appears to be a Protestant version of Phylllis Schaffly without a law degree. This was a slap shot that went over the side of the rink and won't make a goal.

Posted by: ejgallagher1 | August 29, 2008 1:11 PM | Report abuse

I listened to her introduction speech. I was beginning to think there might be a chance for the country after all. Both Obama and McCain are major disasters in the making.

Okay, she and John will not swap places, but maybe they would be elected and something would happen, like McCain getting impeached and convicted. I can dream. Then fantasy time came to an abrupt end when she started talking about whipping Iran into line and staying the course in Iraq. All four presidential and veep candidates are dangerous imperialists.

We are so screwed.

Posted by: Jive Dadson | August 29, 2008 1:11 PM | Report abuse

Are you kidding, she didn't even get John Mccains name right. She called him, "John F Mccain.

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>>Tom M wrote: "Hooray...the first ever possible VPILF"

That's actually pretty funny.

Palin blows away Obama, actually. Her speech was powerful, but grounded. Her leadership, if she somehow becomes president, wouldn't be about herself and her place in history etc. Both McCain and Palin are strong leaders and not narcissistic idol type people. Neither are elitists and credit-takers, and affirmative action babies. She's obviously one of those women who have made herself into an executive, while being a mother, a wife and she's also an athlete and thinker. She has all the substance that Obama doesn't, and a clear executive personality versus Obama's pop-idol one.

MCCAIN 2008

CLINTON 2012

Posted by: AsperGirl | August 29, 2008 1:06 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 1:11 PM | Report abuse

None of you republicans ever gave a crap about Palin until McCain invited her onto his sinking ship.

People aren't blind or stupid like republicans. We can all see this is all McCain's simpleton strategy to try and win over Hillary voters.

Let's hope Hillary supporters have half-a-brain and can see through this farce.

What next, is he going to propose they build twin towers in Iran so that the terrorists can bomb themselves?

How sad that you GOP people will vote for whoever is nominated by the republicans, even if it IS Mr. McGoo.

Posted by: Joe in CA | August 29, 2008 1:10 PM | Report abuse

Now we just need the release of Michelle Shaniqua Obama's "whitey-gate" tape to seal the deal. Senator Purple Lips doesn't have a Muslim prayer to win this election.

Posted by: Dianne72 | August 29, 2008 1:10 PM | Report abuse

Who is Palin? All i know she is a former two-time Miss Alaska and she's currently under investigation.

Posted by: Maureen | August 29, 2008 1:09 PM | Report abuse

Mccain looked at his picks and said, "Hell, I'm going with the cu*t"

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McCain has proven to be a champion of women everywhere and is striving to break the glass ceiling that Hillary managed to put 18 million little cracks into. He is a champion of minority rights!

Posted by: Champ | August 29, 2008 11:07 AM

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 1:09 PM | Report abuse

Plus shes hot!!!! That makes a True Patriot and A Hot Smart VP

Posted by: madhatter | August 29, 2008 1:09 PM | Report abuse

She is a great American and of amazing character and moral stock. Prediction: she will be the first woman U.S. President. Amazing. McCain just sealed the deal.

Posted by: daman1 | August 29, 2008 1:08 PM | Report abuse

AsperGirl, your Mommmy said to get off the computer and take your nap!!! Or else no TV before din din.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 1:08 PM | Report abuse

The only problem with all these comments is that most of the folks who comment are well educated and think about who they are going to vote for. Many people do not, they vote because of their race, religion, past history, whatever. There WILL be a number of women who will vote for McCain vs. Obama because of this choice. Even if just 4% shift to McCain, that could put him over the top.
Also, lets remember the previous debates and the perceptions from them. In 2000, ,while Gore won the debates with Bush on points, he was perceived by some as mean, hurtful, etc, which cost him some votes. If Biden carves up Palin, then there will be backlash (even if a small one) against him for carving up a women. Like I say, not fair, but perception is everything these days.

Posted by: Jim | August 29, 2008 1:07 PM | Report abuse

I heard that Ms. Palin had a baby in April. How devoted to family values can she be if she is willing to leave her infant and travel around campaigning.

Posted by: rlritt | August 29, 2008 1:07 PM | Report abuse

Ultimately, it only matters what PA, OH and MI think. I never liked McCain but I am beginning to come around. this is a master stroke. the victim party is pretty much done at this point. It was fun while it lasted. Look for Obama's bounce to resemble silly putty on a wooden floor.

Of course all the morons will attack her for lack of experience. yet they ignore that metric on the TOP of their ticket.

silly Libs, logic is for thinking people.

Posted by: kingofzouk | August 29, 2008 1:06 PM | Report abuse

McCain's choice of Sarah Palin as his VP is bad news alright, TO DEMOCRATS AND THE EMPTY SUIT RACIST WHITE AND AMERICA--HATER BARACK OBAMA!!!

Posted by: madhatter | August 29, 2008 1:06 PM | Report abuse

>>Tom M wrote: "Hooray...the first ever possible VPILF"

That's actually pretty funny.

Palin blows away Obama, actually. Her speech was powerful, but grounded. Her leadership, if she somehow becomes president, wouldn't be about herself and her place in history etc. Both McCain and Palin are strong leaders and not narcissistic idol type people. Neither are elitists and credit-takers, and affirmative action babies. She's obviously one of those women who have made herself into an executive, while being a mother, a wife and she's also an athlete and thinker. She has all the substance that Obama doesn't, and a clear executive personality versus Obama's pop-idol one.

MCCAIN 2008

CLINTON 2012

Posted by: AsperGirl | August 29, 2008 1:06 PM | Report abuse

I have lost a lot of respect for McCain because of his lack of judgement. There are so many woman republicans who could step in role of President tomorrow, just like Biden could step in tomorrow. McCain has been around Bush to long.

Posted by: MILLER123 | August 29, 2008 1:05 PM | Report abuse

I live in Alaska, and I'm shocked that John McCain would show this kind of naked desperation. One reason Palin is popular in Alaska (or WAS popular) is that she's done very, very little and has hardly been tested.

Her greatest selling point here--reformist--has been severely damaged because she CLEARLY used her administration to try to force her ex-brother-in-law's firing--and has lied about it. She fired her public safety commissioner because he resisted firing her ex-in-law, and then appointed a small-town cop who had been involved in a sexual harassment suit that she didn't even know about. She paid HIM off with $10,000 before he resigned within days.

So really, this is the new face of the Republican ticket? I hope she'll grow into being a good governor, but her experience locally and nationally compared to Obama is microscopic.

I really hate to see one of our own getting beat up by this. McCain hasn't done her or us any favors.

Posted by: bluedog | August 29, 2008 1:05 PM | Report abuse

So let me get this straight, you decide to pander to the disaffected Clinton voters, so you choose Hillary's polar opposite?

Posted by: mhelms | August 29, 2008 1:05 PM | Report abuse

What a joke? McCain cannot be serious...lol

Posted by: Wicker L. | August 29, 2008 1:05 PM | Report abuse

Gender vs. ideology. You'd think it would be a no-brainer.

Posted by: kathy | August 29, 2008 1:05 PM | Report abuse

To timol,

If any liberals are wetting themselves, it is out of glee, because they realize that this is a gross miscalculation on McCain's part.

To luvpalin,

You keep hanging your hat on the fact that Palin has more "executive experience" than Obama (if you want to call being the mayor of a town of Wasilla (pop. 6,700) executive experience), but you should keep in mind that other former U.S. Presidents had NO executive experience prior to taking office. (Lincoln, LBJ, and Kennedy come immediately to mind.)

Posted by: OG | August 29, 2008 1:04 PM | Report abuse

is this a joke for the republican party?!
now i can sleep better knowing that the democratic party will *surely* win!

Posted by: smn-dcgal | August 29, 2008 1:03 PM | Report abuse

Rose wrote:

I live in Alaska and really like Sarah Palin. She is pretty and nice and she was a cheerleader in high school. She hasn't done much as governor, so she doesn't have a record.


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No, that was Bush and Texas.

Gotta keep it straight, there, Slim.

Posted by: Karl, jr. | August 29, 2008 1:03 PM | Report abuse

Good for you, John. You're smarter than people think. I'm guessing you're pretty confident at this point you're not gonna win anyway, so you might as well go out hail-mary style and write some history of your own. I like it, it gives your ticket some edge. Not just a woman, but a young attractive newcomer to the national scene. Bet you wish you hadn't already done the "celebrity" ad.

And she's not a bad choice, I was reading up on her as a long shot. I'd say she lacks experience in a major way, but if the other choices are Romney or Lieberman - I'll take inexperience over either of those two.

Posted by: Grueschenka | August 29, 2008 1:03 PM | Report abuse

This pick smacks of desperation. I understand completely what McCain is trying to do, and I give him credit for doing something like this to try to win, instead of picking a bloated loser like Romney. However, he was backed into a corner by one of the many special interest groups that control the Republican Party(this time, the right-wing social conservatives) who basically said they would abandon ship if he chose Ridge or the traitorous scum Lieberman, who were both for more qualified than Palin. Pawlenty, although inexperienced, seems far more qualified than Palin, and would have satisfied the social conservative issue and possibly (although probably not) have delivered Minnesota, or at least given him a bit of a chance there.

This pick is not going to win any Hillary voters at all, the Hillary women fundamentally disagree with a social conservative like Palin on almost every issue and they know it. The choice of Palin does add to MCain's "I'm my own guy" maverick branding (and gets him away from Bush/Cheney), but it totally undercuts his "Obama is too inexperienced" argument. Obama is too inexperienced, but we are ok with a 72-year-old cancer survivor as president and a person with a grand total of two years experience as the governor of Alaska waiting in the wings to take over the United States of America if something happens to him? When you say it like that, it sounds practically insane.

There will be a lot of arm-waving about this over the next few days, but when the dust settles, I expect that MCain will find that this pick does not help him at all. conversely, I beleive that the Democratic convention did help Democrats a great deal, and McCain will fall back to 5 to 8 points behind in the national polls (not to mention that he is falling further behind in a number of key battleground states - Alaska not being one of them!!).

Posted by: timwayne | August 29, 2008 1:03 PM | Report abuse

Ok, For those of you who keep bringing up Keating 5 you need to note that this was just the Democrats wanting to make this a bypartisan investigation--that was the scandal. McCain never influenced anything and he was cleared.

Posted by: Ryan | August 29, 2008 1:03 PM | Report abuse

If you abandon your newborn disabled child to campaign for a job in which you lack experience, isn't that far worse than aborting it in the first place? How is that being "pro-life"?

Posted by: Karl | August 29, 2008 1:02 PM | Report abuse

for all there jaber, the dems have two men running. Yeah it was hillary's year but the DNC anointed a man and pushed hill aside. yeah you can lose a dozen of the last 15 or so primaries because if the DNC anoints you then the fix is in. How hill supporters can
stomach Ob and his car salesman talk is beyond me.

Posted by: snapplecat07 | August 29, 2008 1:02 PM | Report abuse

Don't be so quick to judge, she is quite competent and intelligent. This was a risky pick but not a bad one.

Posted by: Luvisia | August 29, 2008 1:02 PM | Report abuse

Catherine,

So now we elect a President if the generals like them. If that was the case, why put Obama as the front man. I would think the generals would prefer McCain over Obama.

Patrick in NY,

“could Biden be ready to take charge” Get a life, Obama picked Biden to insulate him from being attacked on being a foreign policy light weight. Why would you pick a guy as old as Biden with no experience on the economic front.

I am looking at this board and it proves it was a smart choice (time will tell if it was a bad or great choice) since everybody is talking about McCain and not Obama.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 1:02 PM | Report abuse

McCain's selection of Palin says more about his libido than it does about his political strategy. He's lost it already, so why not interview #3 before disposing of #2

McCain == McBush == McStupid

Posted by: Butch Dillon | August 29, 2008 1:02 PM | Report abuse

CURIOUSER AND CURIOUSER

As Alice said, "curiouser and curiouser." If Ralph Reed likes it, it HAS to be wrong. Couldn't he find another Republican woman to run with him? Perhaps not, maybe they don't want to be associated with the Party just now and would rather keep their heads down and their jobs secure.

Now we have to endure the republican convention the theme of which is "America First" subtext: the democrats will destroy America. And: if you don't agree with my plan you are unpatriotic, as if tax breaks for multi-national corporations and the very rich were patriotic.

Posted by: Kurt | August 29, 2008 1:02 PM | Report abuse

The Democrats could not have been given a bigger gift than the McCain choosing Palin over Romney or any other more qualified GOP leaders. This was such a monumentally disastrous decision.

Commander in Chief Sarah Palin?

Give me a break.

Posted by: GB | August 29, 2008 1:02 PM | Report abuse

I don’t think the choice is as bad as most posters are suggesting. McCain very much wanted to avoid a ticket of two old white guys. McCain very much needed someone with strong conservative values to counter his "somewhat" conservative values. I don't think choosing a woman is necessarily going after the Clinton voters as it is to say, "Hey, Republicans can be different too". The most troubling part of this, as many pointed out, is her lack of experience. McCain seemed to be getting some traction (as Hillary did) by questioning Barack's lack of experience. And it is a good point. Evan an Obama supporters (which I am) cannot argue against the fact the he does have very little experience. However, watching him in interviews and debates (and in the excellent speech last night) I know he can go toe-to-toe with any leader out there, especially Putin. Bush never gave me that confidence. By choosing Palin, especially with McCain's age, I think he has given up on the experience argument. Republicans simply can no longer question Obama's lack of experience with a two year governor of the least populated state in the country on the ticket.

Posted by: Chris | August 29, 2008 1:01 PM | Report abuse

What a home run! She is outstanding! A Mom, a Patriot, smart, VERY good looking, capable, pro-drilling....she has more experience than Barry! Who would have thought the GOP would be more inclusive than the Dems? Come on over all you Hillary fans to the real Party that respects women. Yeahhhh!!!!

Posted by: daman1 | August 29, 2008 1:01 PM | Report abuse

The "Alaskan Beauty Queen" is going to confront sexism.... That's just the dumbest thing ever.. For somebody to blatantly use their looks and sexuality for success then turn around and say its not fair is Horse#%#@... I didn't think things could get any worse for the GOP.. I'm here to say I was wrong..
As for being Beautiful in Alaska, sure shes smoking compared to the toothless grizzy bear over there.

Posted by: erik | August 29, 2008 1:00 PM | Report abuse

Some of you say you're moving out of the country if McCain wins. Now we're getting somewhere!

Posted by: Spencer | August 29, 2008 1:00 PM | Report abuse

As a young, conservative African American female I wasn't attracted at ALL by Obama's BS change rhetoric, or by his skin color. And McCain just seemed like a boring continuation of Republican foolishness. But thank you Mr. McCain! You just got my vote!

Posted by: finally | August 29, 2008 1:00 PM | Report abuse

Sen. Barack Obama: Start preparing your presidential acceptance speech! Congratulations!
Yes, a woman candidate in any position is always welcome. I have three daughters and always applaud such efforts. But, this is sheer desperation: the biggest senior moment Sen. McCain has had so far! And Gov. Palin is supposed to lure into the Republican camp Hillary Clinton's supporters? Whom are you people kidding?
Certainly no one on earth! Even Mrs. Bush would have been a better choice; or even Mrs. Cheney. The two of them could have read all of us to sleep, except Sen. McCain: he's already asleep!

Posted by: JoeG. | August 29, 2008 1:00 PM | Report abuse

Hooray...the first ever possible VPILF

Posted by: Tom M | August 29, 2008 12:59 PM | Report abuse

The Republican Party has demonstrated a healthy respect for a large and important bloc of voters in this VP choice. Kudos to them. Which is far more than Ted K. and his fellow Democrats have done in the past few months.

Posted by: JT | August 29, 2008 12:59 PM | Report abuse

WRONG. You misunderstand...we are voting AGAINST Obama.
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We get it. Please stop now. It's annoying.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 12:59 PM | Report abuse

Way to go John. She is hot, better looking than Hillary ... If (God Forbid) something would happen to you, we would have Miss Alaska 1984 runner-up as commander-in-chief.
After a B-series Cow Boy, an ex drunkard, we have to thank the GOP who makes sure that the USA remains the world s'laughing stock.

Posted by: max | August 29, 2008 12:59 PM | Report abuse

Folks, don't you see the point? McCain doesn't give two hoots about Clinton's pro-choice supporters. He knows that he can win without them, the same way that Bush did in 2000 and '04. He's interested in galvanizing the Evangelicals and other far-right members of the Republican party that would have stayed at home rather than vote for him. People in that demographic don't care about experience-- after all, if you have conversations with Jesus why would you need experience?! And, sadly, those people, plus any racists, and soccer-moms who view Palfin's "soccer motherhood" as enough of a qualification, are numerous enough to tip the scales against Obama in November. Some of the naysayers on this board have a short memory, otherwise they'd remember that most of the American electorate doesn't consider silly things like competence or experience when they vote in presidential elections-- how quick you are to forget 2000 and '04....

Posted by: Jeezfolks | August 29, 2008 12:59 PM | Report abuse

Rift? What Rift? The only Rift is a bunch of Ron Paul supporters who are going to disrupt the GOP convention if they have one. It seems ironic that McSames conservative religious supporters were praying for a deluge in Denver and now they might have to postpone their convention on account of rain careful what you pray for Jesus was a Liberal

Posted by: Riftless | August 29, 2008 12:59 PM | Report abuse

PLEASE Dems, comment on her inexperience!!!

After all she is the VP pick, and has a made a career of running government that is vastly greater than the DEM Presidential candidate, who has never run so much as a 7-11.

So PLEASE lets talk as much as possible about inexperience!!

Thank You. Thank you.

Posted by: Winningin2008 | August 29, 2008 12:58 PM | Report abuse


Very impressive speech she just gave. I read up a bit about her. I am pro-choice but her decision to keep her downs syndrome baby even after tests showed his issues is admirable. Very courageous.

According to her bio she has fought corruption from the very beginning of her political career, even against her own party. She has done many great things for her state and has an impressive record.

Obama has nothing but a speech. He calls women "sweetie" and pats them on the behind like they are beneath him. His attacks on her small town roots are despicable. Obama has done nothing the whole time he was elected.

Obama changes his views to whichever voting block he wants to pander to. Palin has always stood for what she believed even in the face of pressure from her own party.

Obama caves, Palin is brave.

I still need more time to decide but so far she beats Obama in every way. If she stands up to scrutiny she may even give Hillary a run for her money.

Posted by: Hillary2012 | August 29, 2008 12:58 PM | Report abuse

There is much to be heard from the Republican ticket in the months to come. The self-appointed prophets within this blog may come to know their weaknesses - speaking too soon with too little thought. It's a long ride and we'll see whose true character and colors fly the highest.

Posted by: Dave M | August 29, 2008 12:58 PM | Report abuse

He are the duties of the mayor of Wasilla CIty, from the city code.

This her credentials other than 2 years as governor of a state with fewer people than DC

"2.16.020 Power and duties of mayor.

A. The mayor is the chief administrator of the city, has the same powers and duties as those of a manager under AS 29.20.005, and shall:

1. Preside at council meetings. The mayor may take part in the discussion of matters before the council, but may not vote, except that the mayor may vote in the case of a tie;

2. Act as ceremonial head of the city;

3. Sign documents on behalf of the city;

4. Appoint, suspend or remove city employees and administrative officials, except as provided otherwise in AS Title 29 and the Wasilla Municipal Code;

5. Supervise the enforcement of city law and carry out the directives of the city council;

6. Prepare and submit an annual budget and capital improvement program for consideration by the council, and execute the budget and capital program as adopted;

7. Make monthly financial reports and other reports on city finances and operations as required by the council;

8. Exercise legal custody over all real and personal property of the city;

9. Perform other duties required by law or by the council; and

10. Serve as personnel officer, unless the council authorizes the mayor to appoint a personnel officer.

B. The mayor may appoint a person to the position of administrative assistant and deputy administrator. If appointed, the positions may not be eliminated during the mayor’s term of office without prior consent of the mayor. (Prior code § 2.16.010)
"

Posted by: JJ | August 29, 2008 12:58 PM | Report abuse

I thought McCain only surrounded himself with younger blonde women. Palin is not blonde, what a maverick choice!

Once President, McCain will choose Britney Spears for the Supreme Court!

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 12:58 PM | Report abuse

Darn, someone already posted about the striking resemblance to Tina Fey. SNL will be on my viewing list this fall.

I can't believe that former Hillary supporters, and I am one, could possibly choose McCain/Palin. If they do, they voted for Hillary for reasons other than her policies.

Posted by: LeslieM | August 29, 2008 12:58 PM | Report abuse

"OBAMA has never done ANYTHING!"

Posted by: LuvPalin

You have just outed yourself as willfully ignorant.

Posted by: edwcorey | August 29, 2008 12:57 PM | Report abuse

No, Palin won't pull in the hard-core Hillary voters for McCain, but no woman was going to. If you're a liberal woman, you're going to vote for Obama.

****WRONG. You misunderstand...we are voting AGAINST Obama. That's the strategy. McCain just made a vote for him more palatable by not picking a religious wacko for his V.P...As a Democrat I've always liked McCain because he is a maverick. The goal here for dissed women Dems/Hillary voters is to punish Obama and the Democrats. That means to either not vote at all for President or to vote for McCain. McCain's pick of Palin makes a vote for him more doable.

Posted by: Shelby | August 29, 2008 12:57 PM | Report abuse

I live in Alaska and really like Sarah Palin. She is pretty and nice and she was a cheerleader in high school. She hasn't done much as governor, so she doesn't have a record. Wow, if McCain dies in office, she will be the one to go nose to nose with Putin. Now, doesn't that give you all kinds of comfort?

Posted by: Rose | August 29, 2008 12:57 PM | Report abuse

Folks, don't you see the point? McCain doesn't give two hoots about Clinton's pro-choice supporters. He knows that he can win without them, the same way that Bush did in 2000 and '04. He's interested in galvanizing the Evangelicals and other far-right members of the Republican party that would have stayed at home rather than vote for him. People in that demographic don't care about experience-- after all, if you have conversations with Jesus why would you need experience?! And, sadly, those people, plus any racists, and soccer-moms who view Palfin's "soccer motherhood" as enough of a qualification, are numerous enough to tip the scales against Obama in November. Some of the naysayers on this board have a short memory, otherwise they'd remember that most of the American electorate doesn't consider silly things like competence or experience when they vote in presidential elections-- how quick you are to forget 2000 and '04....

Posted by: Jeezfolks | August 29, 2008 12:57 PM | Report abuse

The Nobama slimy campaign is shivering.

The gutter rat groupies of Nob attacking Palin for lacking experience are fools. First, Palin is going to a VP, not the president. So, if the gutter rats attack Palin, by definition, you gutter rats must think Nob is unqualified for president also.

Nob thought he could diss Clinton; spit in her face, humiliate her, play the sex and race card, and use his empty rhetoric to steal the presidency, as he did the nomination.

He could have been slightly more humble, and at least considered HRC for VP. No, but his Illinois sized ego was too big, and he had to spit in her face, to show who is the boss.

So, now, Obama groupie gutter rats, your empty man's world is crumbling. The women's vote is gone. Vanished. Of course, the Nob never had much support among men.


Kiss the 18 mil HRC voters, and more broadly a large majority of the democratic party half good bye.

I will have fun seeing how the prostitute media pals of Nob (too many to list; start with Genie RObinson, Dionne, Dowd, Rich, Olberman, Cafferty, Matthews, and so on) will react to this pick, and to the ground shifting and melting under Nob's campaign feet.

Posted by: intcamd1 | August 29, 2008 12:57 PM | Report abuse

boy, who woulda thunk that mccain would have made such a big error--a real judgment blunder by picking palin...a person who has no real experience that would make her qualified to step in as president, if need be, already under state investigation, a husband who works for BP (just what we need another oil person)...if mccain thinks that the Hillary people are going to vote for him just because he has a woman on the ticket, he really misses the point: it's not gender but policy that carries the day and pro choice women are not going to vote for a duo that would deny women that right...Obama was right last night: mccain just doesn't get it....

Posted by: BMurray | August 29, 2008 12:57 PM | Report abuse

I have to hand it to John McCain he has taken us all by surprise. the dems will see that he has flip flopped yet again this time on the experience card while rep's will see that he has shown the world that he plans to live forever.

Posted by: Larry Kraus | August 29, 2008 12:57 PM | Report abuse

I voted for Clinton. I was nearly on board with Obama, but I am very excited about McCain's VP choice. I am definitely going to take another look at the Republican ticket and watch how the campaigns play out.

Posted by: Juraco | August 29, 2008 12:56 PM | Report abuse

For those who think Sarah Palin couldn't lead this nation what suddently makes you think Joe Biden could?? I mean nationally among democrats his numbers were in the single digits this primary season behind such respectable leaders like John Edwards and Dennis Kuciniech (no i really don't care about the spelling). He is a man who during Sam Alito's confrimation hearings made fun of Princeton as well as other Ivy league schools. He is a man who has been boarderline racist his "7-11 and Dunkin Donuts" comment about Indian Americans, (I bet he is breathing a sigh of relief that McCain didn't choose Bobby Jindal as his running mate, that would have been awkward). He has criticized everyone and everything he's come across and yet this is the man who is supposed to be a national figurehead?? Please, give Palin a chance she seems like a bright young woman.

For those who consider this to be Republicans pandering...grow up. Why are only Democrats allowed to pander? More than 40% of women vote Republican year in year out, should they not be represented in the administration?? If Dems want to bash McCain for picking a woman to appeal to the constiuency of women shouldn't they be blamed for choosing a Younger Black man to appeal to those two voting demographics?

Posted by: Steveo | August 29, 2008 12:56 PM | Report abuse

That's right,
Palin tried to get fired the a-wipe who was beating up her sister..
So of course we have the DemoFrauds DEFENDING THE WIFE ABUSER!
Bring it on DemoCr*ps, make an issue of THAT!
Just ask Dukakis how well that'll work...

Of course Hussein is cr***ing his boxers just now.
Why was he so stupid as to listen to Shaniqua and diss HRC?
Is it too late for Big Mouth Biden to choke on his own words?
Woo hoo!
Obama bin Biden snatches Defeat from the jaws of Victory!


Posted by: JamesT | August 29, 2008 12:56 PM | Report abuse

Wow. This is a great Birthday present! I cannot believe this choice will rest well with folks who know Pale-n will be a heart beat away from being the Commander in Chief. And woman are way too smart to vote body parts over policy, body parts over Supreme Court nominees or party parts over immoral wars, wasteful destruction of American service people and the financial nightmare we are in. G-Obama Biden!!!

Posted by: John Anthony | August 29, 2008 12:56 PM | Report abuse

Just for the record, kingofzouk, the all knowing sage, predicted this all along.

the result - game set match. the old guy and the chick beat the new guy and the blabbermouth in a landslide.

I can't wait for the cognitive dissonance of the loony Libs to start saying such balderdash as "she isn't qualified" yet Junior is. she is VP, he is P. funny actually.

Posted by: kingofzouk | August 29, 2008 12:56 PM | Report abuse

While McCain blasts Obama for being too inexperienced, those like Steveo and McCain's campaign appear to think the only qualifications for president are time spent as a POW and victories in beauty contests.

Seriously, this POW thing is getting gross. "McCain spent 25 years in the Senate, voting against energy independence bills!"

"John McCain spent 5 years in a box, and didn't need help from anyone finding hiw own enery to survive. John McCain knows a thing or two about energy independence."

oh please.

Posted by: Thomas | August 29, 2008 12:56 PM | Report abuse

McCain: "Look Hillary voters, I chose a WOMAN for my running mate. Pick me! Pick me!"

Posted by: Joe in CA | August 29, 2008 12:55 PM | Report abuse

We are in two wars and it is just scary that an old weirdo and a "hockey mom" could come to power and make decisions. How in hell should this woman know what to do in difficult situations, bake a cookie? Come to sanity America, this is not about having a woman on power, this is about our future, this is about who can judge right.

Posted by: Sara | August 29, 2008 12:55 PM | Report abuse

They wanted to pick a republican woman. Sad that this was all they could come up with.

Posted by: gigglingquietly | August 29, 2008 12:55 PM | Report abuse

Palin DOES look like Tina Fey! Ha ha!

Posted by: KU | August 29, 2008 12:55 PM | Report abuse

McCain/Palin - PRO LIFE!

Abortionists, kiss it goodbye.

Posted by: dee dee | August 29, 2008 12:55 PM | Report abuse

I hope the media, as well as Obama and Biden, remind everyone that the executive experience McCain touts for Palin is mayor of a town of about 5,400 and a short stint as governor of Alaska which is number 47 is population with around 650,000 people.

Ready to be president? Ready to be commander in chief? Not by McCain's own standard as applied to Obama.

I have to add that McCain apparently couldn't resist letting his hostile side out in introducing Palin. McCain's final words were that she will "help me fight the politics of me first and country second."

Posted by: HalBrown | August 29, 2008 12:54 PM | Report abuse

"The Obama supporters are wetting themselves."

That's because we're laughing so hard.

Posted by: dianne72isridiculous | August 29, 2008 12:54 PM | Report abuse

Governing Alaska is not “real” executive experience, technically speaking yes, but “real” no! Alaska’s population is equivalent to Baltimore City and I’m sure Bmore is 10 billion times harder to manage.

Posted by: doesntmater | August 29, 2008 12:54 PM | Report abuse

I thought the Republicans hated affirmative action. At least she's better than Agnew or Quayle. His first presidential decision, and she's the one to take over if senility finishes overtaking him?

Posted by: edwcorey | August 29, 2008 12:53 PM | Report abuse

I think it pretty likely that the main motiviation for this VP pick was to help him get elected, not who will be best at being his number 2, or who would be best to replace him as number 1.

Posted by: jbdsm | August 29, 2008 12:53 PM | Report abuse

So she likes to hunt moose. Finding and shooting a moose in Alaska is sort of like finding and shooting a cow in Texas.

Graduated from college when she was 23. Really takes that long to get through journalism at Idaho? And how many months before their first kid was born, did she and her husband elope?

Posted by: RossPhx | August 29, 2008 12:53 PM | Report abuse

Those of you who wanted Romney, just remember he is just another liberal from Massachusetts. That's not going to fly with the Republican rank and file.

Posted by: obafgkm | August 29, 2008 12:53 PM | Report abuse

Joe Biden knows his stuff and has never behaved in a way that he'd have to modify for a woman
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Biden and Anita Hill, remember?

Therefore blessing us with the worst Supreme Court justice, ever.

Posted by: Karl, jr. | August 29, 2008 12:52 PM | Report abuse

Are we sure that Sarah Palin isn't Tina Fey just playing a role.

She sure looks like Tina Fey.

The biggest difference is that Tina Fey is more qualified.

Posted by: Rhonda | August 29, 2008 12:52 PM | Report abuse

I hope she gets paid the same as a male VP would as mccocaine does not believe in equal pay.

Posted by: John | August 29, 2008 12:52 PM | Report abuse

John McCain will have to mute his criticism of Obama's lack of experience, but the Democrats can't put too fine a point on Palin's inexperience because it will only accent Obama's biggest weakness.

And after all, it is Obama who would be president on Day 1, whereas Palin will have time to learn the ropes. Nixon was only 40 when he was sworn in as vice president, and that didn't stop people from voting for Ike the war hero by a landslide, twice.

Posted by: Blue | August 29, 2008 12:52 PM | Report abuse

...And why do I doubt that Hillary's supporters will be fooled by the anti-choice NEO-CON in a woman's body?

...Who will absolutely appoint NEO-CON judges to the Supreme Court...

...Who will keep the pond scum and criminals appointed by Bush RIGHT where they are...

...Who will give tax breaks to corporations who ship our jobs overseas...

...Who will NOT invest in education reform...

...Who is from BIG OIL... There is NO WAY she'll invest in modern solar and wind technology...

...Who doesn't see a problem with using her power to destroy the lives of a private citizen and have him fired because he broke up with her sister!

She doesn't deserve a single vote just because she has 2 X chromasomes.

American women are SMARTER and more ETHICAL than Sarah Palin!!!

Posted by: JBE | August 29, 2008 12:52 PM | Report abuse

Already tired of Palin carrying her child with Down Syndrome to full term as a Pro Life choice. As if that's what pro-choice is about.

Palin is ultra-conservative, and staunch PRO LIFE. The horror that middle america would fall for this.

Posted by: megan | August 29, 2008 12:52 PM | Report abuse

Omg...McCain picks his own granddaughter for the vice presidency...lol

Posted by: lol | August 29, 2008 12:51 PM | Report abuse

"Palin appeals to me, the independent, exactly because she isn't experienced (corrupted) by Washington."

lol this is so ridiculous on so many levels, I don't even know where to start.

Posted by: youreridiculous | August 29, 2008 12:51 PM | Report abuse

McCain can't be serious. A person that's been a governor for just two years? This is a gimmick that just illustrates what poor judgment McCain has. It's an insult to voters.

Posted by: Jay | August 29, 2008 12:51 PM | Report abuse

Since when did the electorate begin worrying about credentials or issues? I thought labels were good enough...

Posted by: doc | August 29, 2008 12:51 PM | Report abuse

Great post, Spec- even if we do disagree on some points.

This is gonna be fun! I really think she is the pandering choice, but for a Dem observer, much more red meat here than if he had picked Romney or Pawlenty.

I can't wait for the debate! I just hope Jaux Pas Biden doesn't say she's really cute for a smart gal.

Posted by: KnowNothings | August 29, 2008 12:51 PM | Report abuse

A strategic, not tactical, choice and a smart choice to boot. Stay tuned. The Republican "reform" ticket just made this campaign quite interesting and quite close.

Posted by: Toney | August 29, 2008 12:51 PM | Report abuse

Spec: Nice post but you missed one point...

OBAMA has never done anything WRONG because OBAMA has never done ANYTHING!

Posted by: LuvPalin | August 29, 2008 12:51 PM | Report abuse

wow, just wow. He just sealed the deal for Obama. McSame, I couldn't be happier in your pick.

Posted by: proObama | August 29, 2008 12:51 PM | Report abuse

Oh yeah!!!!! McCain blasts Obama for lack of experience, then turns around and picks a person with ZERO experience in a lame attempt to pander to women voters. I didn't vote for Bush either time (and I am proud to say that) and I will not vote Republican this time. GO OBAMA !!!!!!!

Posted by: Ken P | August 29, 2008 12:50 PM | Report abuse

WOW! Thank You Sen John McCain for picking
the Stunning Gov of Alaska Sarah Palin as
Your Vice President as Sarah Palin is truly
a Stunner and in every way there is and will be a Wonderful Great Vice President
and like lots of Independent Voters You Bet
John McCain and Sarah Palin have got my
Vote! Go McCain/Palin 2008! HOORAY!Posted by: Sandy5274 | August 29, 2008 12:31 PM

So she's a "stunner" is what makes her qualified to be VP??? If that's the criteria we're using for VP picks, he should have picked his wife....LOL

He picked a woman so that:

1) He can (try) attract disgruntelled Hillary voters. Unfortunately, the women who voted are pro-choice and very much for equal-pay. Palin is anti-abortion and wants creationism taught in schools.

2) He might just want a woman he can call C*NT whenever he gets mad (often) and Cindy's out shopping. LOL

The Obama-Biden ticket looks even better now.

Posted by: Chris, Atlanta, GA | August 29, 2008 12:50 PM | Report abuse

Mr. McCain somehow will have to argue that Sarah Palin is experienced enough to be president, but Barack Obama is not.
How will he do this?

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 12:50 PM | Report abuse

McCain insulted my intelligence as a woman with this. I am going for Obama/Biden.

Posted by: Misha | August 29, 2008 12:50 PM | Report abuse

I meant to say Saturday Night Live's (SNL's ) Tina Fey,
who is not quite ready for the SNF (skilled nursing facility),
as is Gov. Palin's running mate.

Posted by: VHoldum | August 29, 2008 12:49 PM | Report abuse

It is an interesting pick, but I can't see how she possibly strenghtens the GOP ticket. I suppose the new thing will be to paint all her critics as sexist, but her weakness has more to do with inexperience. Despite what some fact-hating Righties will try to push, she's relatively inexperienced. When McCain croaks of old age, do you really want her running the country?

Posted by: Chris | August 29, 2008 12:49 PM | Report abuse

Joe Biden knows his stuff and has never behaved in a way that he'd have to modify for a woman. Join us in the 21st century, Dwight. We have electricity now.
Posted by: deeppeace | August 29, 2008 12:46 PM

Actaully Biden's a notorious flirt.

One of the cheesiest flirts in the Senate.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 12:49 PM | Report abuse

McCain insulted my intelligence as a woman with this. I am going for Obama/Biden.

Posted by: Misha | August 29, 2008 12:49 PM | Report abuse

"In this case, as VP, Biden was the better pick over Hillary due to his strength in foreign relations and three decades of executive and legislative experienced."

What? Obama picked Biden because he disliked Hillary personally (a petty and shallow reason BTW).

Posted by: hdimig | August 29, 2008 12:49 PM | Report abuse

Hi, I'm John McSame and I'm a POW (and I don't mean POW as in Pow-der the movie character whom I look so much alike.) I have a brain, I really do; that's why I picked a woman--what's her name--to run on my ticket to get all the disgruntal women who supported that B**ch--what's her name--I mean Hillary. And if my c*nt wife don't stop telling people that I broke her arm--after all I didn't mean to bruise her--I'll dump her azz for--what's her name--oh yeah, Palin my VP choice.

When I was in the Hilton Prison war camp, I didn't have all these damn women to deal with; I'm John McSame, a POW and I approve this message.

Posted by: A Female Hillary Support Who Won't Support Powder | August 29, 2008 12:49 PM | Report abuse


NWNH wrote:

Obama/Biden may not be perfect, but they're better than this mess.
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And who holds their leash?

Posted by: Karl, jr. | August 29, 2008 12:49 PM | Report abuse

I CAN'T BELIEVE McCain would pick her over Mitt Romney. We needed Mitt to fix the economy, and she sounds like a socialist. And why on earth would he want to focus attention on Sen. Ted Stevens up in Alaska?

McCain just made a huge mistake.

Forget it. I'm voting for Bob Barr.

Posted by: wolf pack | August 29, 2008 12:48 PM | Report abuse

You guys are missing something. Forget the Hillary supporters...Palin appeals to me, the independent, exactly because she isn't experienced (corrupted) by Washington.

Posted by: jimbob | August 29, 2008 12:48 PM | Report abuse

The Paolin pick reminds me of teh Illinois choce of Alan Keyes to run against Obama four years ago. (I'm dropping a huge backstory 'cause of irrelevance.)
The Dems ahd an Afro-American, so the GOP chose an African-American to split the Black vote. It didn't work.
The Dems came close to nominatiing a woman, so the GOP selects a woman VP to capture dissatisfied women. I'll bet against its working.

Posted by: Frank Palmer | August 29, 2008 12:48 PM | Report abuse

"I think this is a masterstroke by McCain."


A masterstroke of what...
You've got to be joking.

Whatever McCain(repos) are stroking it's surely detached from their brains.

You guys have JUST UNITED THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY.

Like I said...just who in the repos party want Obama to become President?

This is amazing...and insane


Great Judgement John!

(it's 3:00am and WHO do you want to answer that phone???)

now answer that one repo people...

Posted by: jatox | August 29, 2008 12:48 PM | Report abuse

Is the McCain aware that Sarah Palin is currently under investigation? And she is totally inexperienced.

Posted by: Olivick | August 29, 2008 12:48 PM | Report abuse

Sure... Strange way of confronting sexism by nominating a former beauty queen..??? That makes sense? So yeah when somebody sells that a@@ your going to be judged by it...

Sidenote... "Alaskan Beauty Queen".. giggle giggle

Posted by: erik | August 29, 2008 12:48 PM | Report abuse

Palin is ultra conservative. Hillary Clinton she ain't.

Posted by: Kate | August 29, 2008 12:48 PM | Report abuse

Looks and sounds like McCain just nominated Joan Cusack to be his running mate.

Posted by: Amused | August 29, 2008 12:47 PM | Report abuse

For those commenters out there who have the childish need to say things like "McShame or McLame" GROW UP. This man has served this country since he was 18 to mock him is to mock his sacrifice and the sacrifice of millions of Americans who have served in uniform. He is a patriot for this nation and freedom, and while you may not agree with his platform or maybe you just enjoy partisanship the man has a right to be respected. And for those out there who say he is an "elitest" and "doesn't know what its like to be part of the middle class" read a book some time and learn the truth. He spent 6 years in the Hanoi Hilton i'd say he knows a bit more than anyone on here blogging what its like to overcome odds. While i've never been a POW i'm guessing that their treatment was prob a bit lower than that of the middle class. So grow up have respect for his service to this nation if not the man himself.

Posted by: Steveo | August 29, 2008 12:47 PM | Report abuse

I would rather see a VP learn on the job then have an inexperienced President.
The Dems blew their chance at a dynasty. A Hillary/Obama ticket had the potential to run 12 years.
Personally I don't see any President making that much difference given our inept and poorly run Congress. While Bush has been disappointing the Dem. controlled congress has been a disgrace. What a bunch of self absorbed' "please elect me again" losers.
The worst mistake Bush made was to throw out ALL things Clinton, the bad and the good. I suspect Obama will make the same mistake [if elected] and throw out all things Bush, thus ignoring some positive policy changes over the past two years.
The country will change little [following the usual cyclical highs and lows] despite all the present hot air of the conventions.

Posted by: SMB | August 29, 2008 12:47 PM | Report abuse


She has more executive experience than Barack Arugula and Joe Hairplugs--combined.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 12:47 PM | Report abuse

Wow, crazy risky choice, probably people should wait and see what Ms. Palin is all about. Also probably shores up ratings for the Repub convention.

I guess the republicans think that americans factor in race and gender in how they vote. Wait a minute, they do, c.f. Obama getting 90%+ african american support and Hillary getting the white female vote.

Who knows maybe McCain made a good choice, I can tell you that sometime in the 2nd week of November.

Posted by: DCDave | August 29, 2008 12:46 PM | Report abuse

"...biden will have to watch his manners when they debate...it's going to be great...

Posted by: Dwight | August 29, 2008 12:27 PM"

Excuse me? If you can't debate like an adult, you don't belong on the stage. Joe Biden knows his stuff and has never behaved in a way that he'd have to modify for a woman. Join us in the 21st century, Dwight. We have electricity now.

Posted by: deeppeace | August 29, 2008 12:46 PM | Report abuse

I'm actually wondering how the GOP itself will respond. Palin's rep is going to stick in the craw of its more corrupt elements in the leadership and lead to interesting internal conflicts. McCain's sold his soul to the devil on many of what were formerly principled stands. Palin resurrects many of them and the Rovian elements of the McCain campaign must be second-guessing themselves right about now. "This woman is actually honest and has fought against the kind of shenanigans I was counting on practicing. Will I have the influence I thought I would in a McCain Administration?"

Posted by: Judge C. Crater | August 29, 2008 12:46 PM | Report abuse

At first I was shocked, then I was interested, but now I am just dismayed and confused. John McCain is like 200 years old and he picks this woman as his VP????? This is also an insult to Hillary supporters. How dare he??? THAT WOMEN IS NO HILLARY????HOW DARE YOU ATTEMPT TO PANDER US LIKE THAT. If this race is even close I will be moving out of the country. Obama/Biden may not be perfect, but they're better than this mess.

Posted by: NO WAY NO HOW | August 29, 2008 12:46 PM | Report abuse

By not picking Romney, McCain showed that he is not concerned with the economy. Dems can exploit this. He diffused his argument of Obama not being ready by picking her. On the Dem side, Biden should not underestimate her and approach her during the debate like Gore did Bush. McCain just lost the election with this pick.

Posted by: fred | August 29, 2008 12:46 PM | Report abuse

Glad Cindy McCain lost that 1950's teenage girl dress and looks.

She looks great. Elegant, mature and classy. Very First Lady.

Wow, Palin is a great, focused and direct speaker. Ha Ha, she's alike an Anti-Biden. Ha ha.

What an executive pair she and McCain make.

McCain is a genius.

It's not "pandering" when it's a great substance pick.

McCain not only make a right diversity pick, but Palin is also a powerful substance pick.

Posted by: AsperGirl | August 29, 2008 12:46 PM | Report abuse

Take another good look at Governor Palin.
McCain's VP pick has provided an important
opportunity to one other woman: SNF's Tina Fey.

I can't wait for this season's Saturday nights.
Many laugh-riots to come!

Posted by: VHoldum | August 29, 2008 12:45 PM | Report abuse

This pandering is unbelievable....women voters don't just want ANY woman they want one who is qualified.

Palin just doesn't fit the bill. She doesn't even who the VP does:

Larry Kudlow of CNBC’s “Kudlow & Co.” asked her about the possibility of becoming McCain's ticket mate.

Palin replied: “As for that VP talk all the time, I’ll tell you, I still can’t answer that question until somebody answers for me what is it exactly that the VP does every day? I’m used to being very productive and working real hard in an administration. We want to make sure that that VP slot would be a fruitful type of position, especially for Alaskans and for the things that we’re trying to accomplish up here for the rest of the U.S., before I can even start addressing that question.”

Way to John -- thanks for sealing the deal for Obama!!

Posted by: lbrlwyr | August 29, 2008 12:45 PM | Report abuse

I had given McCain a little credit before and thought he might pick someone with clear executive presence and experience. I thought he might pick Romney or even Pawlenty.

To pick Palin is an insult to Romney and especially Pawlenty (who is a well regarded moderate governor with more experience than Palin). This is just short-sightedness.

Yesteday's Obama speech and today's bad judgement call from McCain should clear the way for an Obama presidency.

Posted by: Fido | August 29, 2008 12:44 PM | Report abuse

Well, at least McCain won't have to pay her as much as a male VP.
Smart fiscal choice McCain.

Posted by: JakeD's shadow | August 29, 2008 12:44 PM | Report abuse

Palin just honored Hillary Clinton in her intro speech. Cynical ploy is totally exposed.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 12:44 PM | Report abuse

How many Generals do you think are reassured by McCain's selection?

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I was thinking "Harriet Meiers," too.

And if this is indicative of how McCain's lobbyists reason, critically, it doesn't bode well for the Presidency, does it?

Posted by: Karl, jr. | August 29, 2008 12:44 PM | Report abuse

It's significant that the Republican poster girl of "reformer" is under investigation for misusing her position to get the former brother-in-law fired.
Perfect match for the "straight-talker" from the Keating Five.

Posted by: Frank Palmer | August 29, 2008 12:44 PM | Report abuse

Desperation. There is no other way to explain this pick. This week has proven to McSame he cannot win by conventional means, so has to go circus to hold the public attention. It's a gift to the Dems, and almost makes one feel a bit sorry for the (R) ticket. It might be a bit of a feint as well, so be wary, they'll try anything. Still, Sarah PALIN? you've got to be kidding me!

Posted by: PreAmeriKKKan | August 29, 2008 12:44 PM | Report abuse

Well this pick just shows that Obama is right: McCain just doesn't get it. He doesn't even have good judgment when it comes to picking his own VP. He thinks that Hillary supporters will vote for him because of Sarah Palin? An unknown from Alaska? Give me a break!!

Posted by: bjhutch | August 29, 2008 12:44 PM | Report abuse

I think we can finally call him John McCan't, and put him to rest!

Posted by: Del | August 29, 2008 12:44 PM | Report abuse

McCain picked Tina Fey as VP??!!

Posted by: JakeD's shadow | August 29, 2008 12:43 PM | Report abuse

While I have not had an opportunity to review her bio, I have to laugh at the Republicans one more time. I guess they figure they will join in the "Time for Change". This is shaping up to be a hellva election!!

Posted by: Charles N. Mann | August 29, 2008 12:43 PM | Report abuse

His choice of Palin is an INSULT to women. Does he think we're so dumb that any woman he picks will be enough for us? We're so clueless as a gender that we don't care if that woman has experience or shares our values? Joe Biden will rip apart Palin in the debate. To think she would be a heartbeat away from the Presidency is chilling. I wonder if she can spell potato?

Posted by: DogBitez | August 29, 2008 12:43 PM | Report abuse

Great point MOVOICE! I think it's a brilliant pick. It gives equal contrast to the 2 tickets. As a democrat, I have seen no tangible record to back up Obama's words; thus the reassuring experienced Biden pick for VP. McCain by contrast has a record and Palin is the less experienced outside Washington reformer. It balances out the narrative completely if she can deliver a good speech.

Posted by: A August | August 29, 2008 12:42 PM | Report abuse

Does McCain even know Palin? Is there any record of them even spending time together - much less working together?

Posted by: grace | August 29, 2008 12:42 PM | Report abuse

Like the pick very much! Very smart move on McCain side. It changed the game.

Posted by: IndependentVoterWatch | August 29, 2008 12:42 PM | Report abuse

2 years as governor of Alaska with less than 700,000 is considered qualified to step in a president of a nation with 300 mill?
I guess the fact that she goes moose hunting and is a member of the National Rifle Association qualifies her as commander-in-chief.
This gamble will not work to get the votes of so-called disgruntled Hillary supporters.

For more on this, read post at:
http://www.reflectivepundit.com/reflectivepundit/2008/08/mccains-gamble.html

Posted by: BrigN | August 29, 2008 12:41 PM | Report abuse

Wow, Palin rocks. What a powerful acceptance speech!

About taking risks to build a better country:

"A ship in harbor is safe, but that is not why the ship was built."

I didn't know she refused that "bridge to nowhere."

She blows the doors off the other candidates. No wonder she has like 80 percent popularity. She's better than Obama, because her speaking is powerful, but also blunt and real, not affected phony rhetoric.

Posted by: AsperGirl | August 29, 2008 12:41 PM | Report abuse

For those of you who say he's blatantly pandering, quess what? Politics=Pandering and it works as a rule.

Posted by: MOVoice | August 29, 2008 12:41 PM | Report abuse

Chris:
Here is another "Stunner" policy decision from Palin.
Oil first - Environment - last with Bush-Cheney McSame-Palin.

ANCHORAGE, Alaska (AP) - The state of Alaska will sue to challenge the recent listing of polar bears as a threatened species, Gov. Sarah Palin announced . She and other Alaska elected officials fear a listing will cripple oil and gas development in prime polar bear habitat off the state's northern and northwestern coasts A U.S. Geological Survey study completed last year as part of the petition process predicted polar bears in Alaska could be wiped out by 2050.

Posted by: jer | August 29, 2008 12:41 PM | Report abuse

It's too funny seeing the Right Wing GOP die hards defending McShame's first major decision, picking this inexperienced person to be one heart beat away from the presidency is beyond pandering, especially when McOld has one foot in the grave.

Obama made a choice based on could Biden be ready to take charge, this woman's claim to fame is being Mayor of a town that has less people in it that live on my block, and now Governor of a State that has less people who work on my block.

Good luck with that old man.

Posted by: patrick nyc | August 29, 2008 12:41 PM | Report abuse

(With this appointment) It appears as if Obama is BEING GIVEN the job by Republican bigwigs.

Posted by: jatox | August 29, 2008 12:41 PM | Report abuse

Is McCain Insane! Palin over Kay Hutchinson!

Palin's Resume:
former mayor and council member of a town of 6000
former commercial fishing company owner
former outdoor recreational equipment company owner
former sports reporter

Awards:
National Arbor Day Foundation

Scandal:
currently under investigation for using her office to have her ex-brother-in-law fired from his state trooper's job


Now, if McCain were to become president and later incapacitated or died in office, this woman would become Commander in Chief!

How many Generals do you think are reassured by McCain's selection?

How many Americans do you think are reassured on national security, foreign policy, the economy, and other domestic issues by McCain selection?

McCain has lost it.

Posted by: Catherine | August 29, 2008 12:40 PM | Report abuse

I've read a great deal of the posts here - looks like the Democratic conventeers are hanging around all the Denver Starbuck's soaking up some wi-fi.

All the comments about how lightweight Palin is. Gee, did you look at Senator Obama? Let's name all the legislation that this man (the head of the ticket) has gotten passed. Introduced? Anything. Oh yeah, that's right...he's for "change." I feel us changing already. Hold on. . .can't you feel it too? What a load of hooey!

I think this is a masterstroke by McCain. If he'd a picked Ridge, Romney (who I supported in the prelims)et al, then he'd be picking just another one of the establishment - an old, white man. He would be reinforcing the more-of-the-same Bush image. Instead, he went out on a limb. And I like it. Read a little about Palin before you decide that she's a complete neophyte. I think you'll find a pretty strong, stand-up cookie. (And oh, the whole "getting-your-abusive-ex-bro-in-law-fired thing?" Just say Jeremiah Wright! But then again, only a Democrat would stoop so low as to point fingers at someone else's trouble and ignore their own).

A note about me - I'm a registered independent and HATE party politics. I didn't watch the Demo convention, but don't worry, I won't watch the Reps convention either. I hated when the Reps demonized Clinton - he couldn't do anything right. (What, he lied about getting something on the side? Wow, how many similiarly situated guys do that?) But I hate the Dems sanctimony on Obama - he's never done anything wrong.

The debates should be very interesting this year. And all of those who think Biden will roll over Palin, I will bet you will be surprised how this turns out. Just because you have a lot to say (see Joe Biden's histrionics), doesn't mean that you win a debate. They have a clock on and everyone gets a turn.

In the wonderful world of politics, I think McCain just trumped Obama. Consider thunder stolen.

Posted by: Spec | August 29, 2008 12:39 PM | Report abuse

Let's see...

This woman Palin is under investigation in Alaska for using her gubenatorial power to fire the official who refused to fire her sister's ex husband because of a child custody dispute?!?

Should government officials reach out and fire you because your ex is fighting you over custody of your children?

CHINA'S COMMUNIST government does things like that - NOT AMERICANS!

Sarah Palin = NEO-CON HYPOCRITE!

Posted by: JBE | August 29, 2008 12:39 PM | Report abuse

I know that only a extremely small number of people watched the Democratic Convention.

Following are keynote speakers that you missed and topics:

Marion Barry --- Drug Abuse

Rep. Denny Kucinich --- How to garner 1 % of the vote in every primary entered

Sen. Chrissy Dodd --- Obtaining Countrywide loans

Sen. Chucky Schumer --- How to initiate a run on a bank

Jesse Jackson ---- Marital fidelity and Castration

John Edwards ---- Ambulance Chasing and Spousal support in time of need

Sen. Theodore Kennedy --- Driver education and How to stop a pending autopsy

James McGreevey ---- Gay rights

Mayor Ray Nagin --- Emergency evacuation preparations

Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick – Email etiquette in the workplace

Al Sharpton ---- Race relations

Sen. Evan Bayh --- How to ignore the Liberal wing of the Democratic Party and support the war in Iraq

Al Gore --- Snow Removal

Louis Farrakhan --- Muslims in America and Muslim in the White House

Posted by: gary | August 29, 2008 12:38 PM | Report abuse

Posted by Vincent:
I honestly don't think most Clintonistas are going to buy into an economically conservative, pro-gun, anti-abortion candidate simply because of her gender.
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Vinny, You're right, Palin won't win the dike vote, thier life partners or thier IVF/anonymously fathered offspring, but she will win the soccer moms of suburbia, thier husbands an thier children of voting age....and theres a lot more of THEM.

PS- AsperGirl , I Love You !!

Posted by: LuvPalin | August 29, 2008 12:38 PM | Report abuse

This is a Harriet Myers-style selection: picking an unqualified woman purely because she's a woman, as part of a blatant attempt to pander

Posted by: Bethesdan | August 29, 2008 12:38 PM | Report abuse

Wow I'm listening to Palin's speech right now. I have heard more interesting, even inspiring rhetoric, from candidates for PTA vice- president.

Posted by: marc | August 29, 2008 12:38 PM | Report abuse

Remember, George Mahoney gave us Spiro Agnew....

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 12:38 PM | Report abuse

Palin is a great choice. She's smart, articulate (clean?) conservative and a woman!

It won't help of course. There's just too much Obamamania out there. The only way Obama loses is if racism prevents his "suppoters" from ultimately voting for him. If that doesn't happen, he wins by a landslide.

Thus, choosing Palin as VP is a great choice because in future elections it will no longer be such a big deal. I just hope she holds her own in the debate.

Posted by: MD Laxer | August 29, 2008 12:37 PM | Report abuse

My god, Sarah Palin is extremely good looking and sexy.

Posted by: gary | August 29, 2008 12:37 PM | Report abuse

Finally we can overturn Roe. vs Wade.

WHITE NOW!

Posted by: Hillary2012 | August 29, 2008 12:37 PM | Report abuse

McCain should have chosen Kay Hutchison instead. I don't like her, but she is more credible and more formidable than Sarah Palin.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 12:37 PM | Report abuse

If any conservsative out there believes this gal will attract a Hillary supporter based upon gender or a delusional reference to portfolio than I suggest you rethink your position.

There is nothing zero nada for any Hillary supporter to hold onto in comparison with this gal.

She makes Obama appear as a Senior Statesman by comparison.

And at least Obama is not from Alaska.

Alaska, in the dark 1/2 of the year, in mud and mosquitos the other half of the year and nearly uninhabited.

And mccain believes he'll get Hillary voters based upon her?

hah.

Posted by: jatox | August 29, 2008 12:37 PM | Report abuse

Hey,AsperGirl:
You should should change your handle to 'GrasperGirl'.You are grasping at straws that don't exist.If we Democrats are going up against Palin proponents like you,we will laugh all the way to the White House.Plus,you talk too much...you love hearing yourself,don't you?
Wake up,sister,and smell the fresh Denver air!

Posted by: Sir Realist | August 29, 2008 12:36 PM | Report abuse

In other news tonight, President Sarah Palin.....

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 12:36 PM | Report abuse

As an Obama supporter all I can say is,"

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA"

*deep breath*

"HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA"

Thank you Mister McCain

Posted by: G | August 29, 2008 12:36 PM | Report abuse

Wow! Imagine Mr. McCain, in a blatant attempt to woo Hillary supporters chooses a woman. Of course, it only took the Republicans 24 years to catch up to the Democrats on this one. How much longer before they catch up on world events?

Why would anyone who supported Hillary change over to a party/candidate that so opposes everything she stands for - women's rights, the environment, health care, taking care of the disenfranchised?

Bad decision (again) Mr. McCain.

Posted by: Michelle | August 29, 2008 12:36 PM | Report abuse

I am listening to her speak now. This is a joke, right? America already has cheerleaders. And they can be found in Congress. No thanks McCain. No thanks Palin.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 12:35 PM | Report abuse

Just the fact that she killed the "Bridge to nowhere" is enough for me. Shes got my vote!

Posted by: bartman | August 29, 2008 12:35 PM | Report abuse

What an incredible insult to women, to think that McCain could gain Clinton votes because he picked a women is astoundingly stupid, does he think women are going to fall for that? he insults their intelligence beyond belief.

Secondly it's an insult to the American people in general, it displays John Mc Cains lack of judgment and common sense, to select a person with two years experience as a governor, no experience in Washington, and probably zero experience in international affairs, and expect them to be able to assume the Presidency in the event John suffers a fatal or disabling event is totally unacceptable.

Has John Mc Cain lost his mind, his hand has slipped from the wheel, what could he have been thinking,

He may as well concede the election to Obama and save the taxpayers a lot of money.

Posted by: Larry the cable guy | August 29, 2008 12:35 PM | Report abuse

In 84 the D's put a women on the ticket as VP. almost 25 years later, the R's follow suit. That's about how long it took them to catch up on the environment, and on race relations. They're still behind on what that whole Vietnam thing was about and in another twenty years they might catch up on Corporate/Mercenary/Bush Crime Family debacle.

Palin? Whatever..Republicans are done for in this election. They can't even buy a clue!

Posted by: thebob.bob | August 29, 2008 12:35 PM | Report abuse

>>The viciousness of the left-wingers is strong evidence of how blind-sided, bewildered and worried they are....a stunner indeed! PS... AsperGirl , I Love You!! Posted by: LuvPalin
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Let's hope you both are sterilzed before you knock boots...
Posted by: McCain Palin '08 - cmon ladies, she's got breasts! | August 29, 2008 12:28 PM

I THINK THAT THE ABOVE SEXIST, PERVERTED ATTACK ON MY ANALYSIS POST IS A CLEAR EXAMPLE OF WHY MCCAIN'S PICK IS SO BRILLIANT, WHY IT WAS A BIG MISTAKE FOR THE DEMS NOT TO CONFRONT THE SEXISM, WOMAN-BASHING AND MYSOGYNY IN THE OBAMA "MOVEMENT" CULTURE AND WHY OBAMA'S CAMPAIGN IS GOING TO BE A TRAIN WRECK THIS FALL.

HA HA HA HA HA....!

Gotta go. Your sqwacking, sexually infantile, woman-bashing voices all blend into something that sounds remarkably like the flushing of a toilet to me.

BTW. Some advice for future Afrocentric presidential candidates: it's wrong to build a claim for a historic equality candidacy on a foundation that is built by leveraging bigotry and bashing of another group of people.

Posted by: AsperGirl | August 29, 2008 12:35 PM | Report abuse

She wants intelligent design taught in schools and is a pro-lfe crazy, McSame thinks this will move Hillary voters? PLUS THIS: Gov. Sarah Palin on Wednesday revealed an audio recording that shows an aide pressuring the Public Safety Department to fire a state trooper embroiled in a custody battle with her sister.

Palin, who has previously said her administration didn’t exert pressure to get rid of trooper Mike Wooten, also disclosed that members of her staff had made about two dozen contacts with public safety officials about the trooper.

Posted by: Boston | August 29, 2008 12:35 PM | Report abuse

I don't know much about Palin. I have read a few articles about Palin that mention she is a reformer but they quickly transition into her position on abortion and creationism. What exactly did she do to earn the title of reformer?

Posted by: Bob | August 29, 2008 12:35 PM | Report abuse

It's going to be such a pleasure watching all you Obama supporters who are much, much stupider than the female Clinton supporters, who have been sexist and belittling of women all year, posturing as if you are smarter than they, when in fact you are quite stupid and narcissistic, eat it when your pop idol narcissist gets trounced this Fall.


Posted by: AsperGirl
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Aspercream, quit pretending that you are some feminist icon. You are a pure idiot and the fact that you think putting a pair of boobs and a vagina on the McCain ticket is going to result in an automatic win is as sad as your obsession with Obama's birth certificate or your 24 hour trolling.

Posted by: 2008 | August 29, 2008 12:34 PM | Report abuse

He turned 72 tthis month! God forbids if something happens to him, this ex-mayor and beauty paegent (under federal investigation) from Wassila is going to have the key to the nukes. NO WAY, NO HOW, NO McCAIN!!!

Posted by: Guy From LA | August 29, 2008 12:34 PM | Report abuse

McCain just stepped all over his own message about Obama's inexperience---the only real substantive argument he had going into the general election. Two years as governor of one the nation's least populated states, and before that mayor of a town of 5,400? Zero foreign policy experience? And this, as the vice-presidential pick of the man who would be our oldest president ever to take office, and with a history of skin cancer? Are you kidding me? This is naked political pandering of the cheapest sort, a desperate attempt to pick up disgruntled Hillary voters. And it won't work. Most women I know are insulted, if not outraged. McCain has utterly failed at his first "presidential" act---choosing someone who at a moment's notice is ready to step in as commander-in-chief. In my opinion, his poor judgment disqualifies him from the presidency.

Posted by: Brad K | August 29, 2008 12:34 PM | Report abuse

Whoops! That should have been:

Y'know, I have to wonder if a (small) part of the calculation here is also to help embattled *Alaskan* Congressional Republicans in November ...

Posted by: meep! | August 29, 2008 12:33 PM | Report abuse

Rookie governor of Alaska; former mayor of Wasilla, pop. 8,000 and hockey mom. I love Aunt Bea, too, but I wouldn't make her next in line to be commander in chief to a 72 year old with health problems! This demonstrates a serious lack of judgment on McCain's part. How many more of these from the GOP does he think this country can afford?

McCain/Palin.

Not much music there.

Obama/Biden?

Love it.

Posted by: Sara B. | August 29, 2008 12:33 PM | Report abuse

Great, here comes another blown election by my pathetic party, the Democrats. I do not like McCain but this is a shrewd pick. Ugh.

Posted by: GOSkins | August 29, 2008 12:33 PM | Report abuse

I'm from the South, she ain't gon' make dem good olde boys rush to the polls.

I've said it before, John McCain is going to vote for Barack Obama.

Posted by: onefreeman | August 29, 2008 12:32 PM | Report abuse

See? No one does read these posts. Alaska - a state with so much oil money that there's no income or sales tax, and the government ends up giving money away to the citizens. This year's check was $1,200. One of the few places in the world where the government pays the citizens.

http://www.adn.com/news/alaska/story/485115.html

--"WOW...the GOP VP has 2 more years of executive experience running a state than the DEM Messiah has running anything...

Who to vote for now??

Posted by: LuvPalin | August 29, 2008 12:29 PM"--

Posted by: NoOneImportant | August 29, 2008 12:32 PM | Report abuse

This does seem desperate, but there is hope. First, see how the polls react after 2 weeks. If the polls dip for McCain, Palin comes down with some strange illness or gets involved in car accident (not really, but you get it). Then she withdraws for reasons beyond her control. She is then replaced with someone more popular. McCain still retains the disgruntled feminists who did switch because of her. And if that doesn't work, pull out Larry Sinclair. Rev. Wright is old news. If that doesn't work, it's President Obama. It's okay, though. He'll have the corporations buying him off and making his decisions for him. He won't be alone in the White House.

Posted by: dcp | August 29, 2008 12:32 PM | Report abuse

Two months before the general election, John McCain, the oldest man ever to run for President, picks someone no one has ever heard of from Alaska because she is a woman. What on earth is he thinking?

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 12:32 PM | Report abuse

Palin on the ticket will now energize the conservatives that are typically lukewarm to McCain. Bold move and certainly has some liberals wetting themselves.

Posted by: timol | August 29, 2008 12:31 PM | Report abuse

I am really surprised at this pick. I can't figure out what Sarah Palin brings to the GOP ticket. She is very inexperienced, having even less time in major public office than Obama has. She is all of 42 years old. She is not from a swing state that McCain needs help winning. Alaska only has 3 electoral votes and is safely in the GOP column.

The inexperience argument particularly hits home because, if elected, McCain would be the oldest President ever to take office. He has chosen a running mate with little political background and no foreign policy experience at all.

I think this will prove to be a mistake.

Posted by: mark | August 29, 2008 12:31 PM | Report abuse

Wait till everyone starts to find out that Palin is currently under investigation in AK for abuse of power. She fired Public Safety Commissioner Walt Monegan who refused to fire an Alaska State Trooper who went through a messy divorce with Palin's sister.

http://www.ktva.com/ci_10026165

Way to go McCain choosing a VP with current ongoing legal baggage!

Posted by: artmagus | August 29, 2008 12:31 PM | Report abuse

WOW! Thank You Sen John McCain for picking
the Stunning Gov of Alaska Sarah Palin as
Your Vice President as Sarah Palin is truly
a Stunner and in every way there is and will be a Wonderful Great Vice President
and like lots of Independent Voters You Bet
John McCain and Sarah Palin have got my
Vote! Go McCain/Palin 2008! HOORAY!

Posted by: Sandy5274 | August 29, 2008 12:31 PM | Report abuse

The Washington Post completely missed this coming, and part of me loves that fact! Up here we've heard the rumblings for a while, and FOX's Dick Morris was predicting for a long time that the veep pick had to be a woman (Palin obviously), because it cinches the election for Obama. Obama is not polling well with women at all, for a Democrat, and Sarah is the ultimate soccer mom, outdoor sportswoman, governor, and now vice president. Couldn't be more thrilled and proud! History is being made!!!!

Posted by: AnchorageAlison | August 29, 2008 12:30 PM | Report abuse

Y'know, I have to wonder if a (small) part of the calculation here is also to help embattled Congressional Republicans in November ...

Posted by: meep! | August 29, 2008 12:30 PM | Report abuse

Cindy McCain's new hair and look is really great on her.

Posted by: AsperGirl | August 29, 2008 12:30 PM | Report abuse

To Shelby at 12:18... something tells me you were never actually a Hillary supporter. Just a Republican trying to attract women disappointed that Hillary did not win the nomination. Kinda the same logic governing McCain's decision really.

Posted by: C | August 29, 2008 12:30 PM | Report abuse

WOW...the GOP VP has 2 more years of executive experience running a state than the DEM Messiah has running anything...

Who to vote for now??

Posted by: LuvPalin | August 29, 2008 12:29 PM | Report abuse

On picking Palin:
"not to mention, all of a sudden McCain's best argument, i.e. "experience," can't really be made with a straight face anymore..."

On picking Biden:
"not to mention, all of a sudden Obama's best argument, i.e. "Change we can beleive in" can't really be made with a straight face anymore..."

Posted by: Nebraska | August 29, 2008 12:29 PM | Report abuse

Hussein Osama is already
kicking his own ample backside
for being so petty
so stupid
such an oinker
that he chose
Plagiarizin' Joe over HRC.

And poor poor Shaniqua!
Here she was already shopping for new
Ghetto Fabulous hot pants!
'Salright though, she always has her career
on the streets.

Posted by: JamesT | August 29, 2008 12:28 PM | Report abuse

The viciousness of the left-wingers is strong evidence of how blind-sided, bewildered and worried they are....a stunner indeed!

PS... AsperGirl , I Love You!!

Posted by: LuvPalin
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Let's hope you both are sterilzed before you knock boots...

Posted by: McCain Palin '08 - cmon ladies, she's got breasts! | August 29, 2008 12:28 PM | Report abuse

So… the oldest presidential candidate in history, with a medical record that runs to 1,100 pages, thinks it good judgement to put a governor with less than 2 years of experience in public life one heartbeat away from the Oval Office?

I feel safer already.

Posted by: johnzero | August 29, 2008 12:28 PM | Report abuse

It will take very little to make the fury of the Clinton women explode again.

All the Republicans have to do is to aggressively attack and criticize the sexist attacks and portrayals and belittling of Palin, to win over the hearts of the Clinton women. They don't even have to change their platform to win those hearts.

By picking this mom-of-five with a little baby, McCain is practically BAITING the sexists woman-belittlers and woman-bashers in the Democratic party to put their foots in their mouths and restart the gender war that is still simmering under the surface.

This is a brilliant pick.
__________________________

AspenGirl strikes again!

I honestly don't think most Clintonistas are going to buy into an economically conservative, pro-gun, anti-abortion candidate simply because of her gender.

And to those who endorsed Christine Todd Whitman, who I knew when she was governor of New Jersey and seems to be a decent person: The reason she wasn't selected can be summed up in three letters...E-P-A.

Posted by: Vincent | August 29, 2008 12:28 PM | Report abuse

Does he really think women are THAT dumb? Well, I guess some are, but how can you vote against your own interests? She is clearly against a woman's right to choose and where does she stand on universal health care, Hillary' biggest issue? She doesn't bring any new ideas to his ticket. If you're a far right-leaning Republican or independent, its a great choice.

Also, McCain can't challenge Obama's experience or Rezco for that matter because it appears she's being investigated in her home state for unethical activity. It may not actually be anything, but neither is the Rezco issue.

I learned my lesson with the Clarence Thomas fiasco. Just because you're black doesn't mean you're my brother; likewise, just because you have ovaries, doesn't mean we're on the same side.

Posted by: MrsJones | August 29, 2008 12:28 PM | Report abuse

This is definitely a good thing for the Democrats. First off Palin can never be Hillary....they have very different values. Here is something that I haven't heard anything on. If you look at Palin and you look at Cindy McCain, can you honestly tell me that Cindy is going to want her husband spending a lot of private time with Palin. Every time that Palin and McCain put their heads together or she smiles at what he says, people will wonder what is going on. I've worked with a lot of men and women, and this is a recipe for disaster. I know, some of you will not agree on this, but this isn't some woman that will head a company, this is a woman that will share long hours directly with McCain, alone. They will work on major crises together, long hours. Cindy won't understand what decisions McCain has had to make, and why he is stressed out, but Palin will, they will share many emotions, beliefs, let downs, and triumphs. They will look up to each other. They will share information that none of us will even know about. People this is what affairs are made of! Dumb move on McCain's part!

Posted by: kdoklahoma | August 29, 2008 12:28 PM | Report abuse

...I haven't laughed this loudly since Rudi Guiliani talked on Frauds News on the so called off shore drilling by CHINA on the coast of Cuba....which was a FRAUD also

Five reasons why Sarah Palin is a laugh-out
loud ridiculious choice!!!

Seriously? Sarah Palin for VP? It's one thing for millions of voters to put forward a sitting senator as a possible commander in chief, but for John McCaint
to hand-pick a first-term governor of a tiny state is bizarre.

Here are five reasons why, if she is the pick, this is a huge mistake:

1. There goes McCain's best argument.

He cannot say Obama is not ready but she is. Obama started organizing his campaign for president the same month she was sworn in to lead the third-smallest state's government.

2. She has no base of support.

Obama won his senate seat with 3,597,456 votes, that's more than five times the population of Alaska. He has won more than 18 million votes in a long, tough primary that tested him and prepared him.

How has she been tested?

She lost her first bid for statewide office, then won the governor's office with 114,697 votes, not a majority, but enough to take office.

And apparently, enough to set her up for the Oval Office.

3. The "woman card" will backfire.

She's no Hillary Clinton..none of the MEN
in the RNC/GOP lie machine could have come
as well it would be different if she were known to anyone or qualified or something.

4. Alaska, a corrupt hinterland.

Yes, she is a hard-nosed, tough reformer. But the McCaint campaign will have to deal with the fact that Alaska seems like a foreign land as corrupt as Louisiana.

It's longtime senator will stand trial smack dab in the middle of this campaign season, and McCaint may have to vote to remove him from office.

Yes, they can spin it that she is someone cleaning up the mess up there, but what Americans realize is that they don't know much about what goes on up there. Will they be comfortable with her?

5. Was this McCaints choice?

It seems clear that McCaintwanted to go with Lieberman but was talked out of it by the right wing of his party. Rove admits calling Lieberman to ask him to pull his name out. Bush lost his way because he never stood up to Rove et. al.

McCaint' once again is headed down the same path to ruin and political suicide

....So McCaint wanted a VP with nothing to add but an ample bosom...how laughable.....and sorely pathetic

McCaint..."The candidate does not speak for the Campaign...."

And what about this.....

So Palin once again bows to the Alaska Outdoors Council which is so worried it might not have enough Alaskan wildlife to kill for trophies, eh?

The federal biologists have shown the polar bears are in trouble.

Alaska state biologists have warned they are in trouble. Even the Natives along the Northern Coastal Plain have noted how things are getting worse for the polar bears.

But, like Palin, there are commenters in this discussion who are willing to sell Alaska down the drain for a few oil-soaked dollars. I can see the true VECO mentality (?) is alive and well and can be found here in their comments.

Palin allows airborne killing of wolves and bears, wants polar bears to remain huntable for trophies, and has generally shown she is even worse than Murkowski could ever have been when it comes to selling out our wildlife to the highest bidder.

...Well if Dick (Satan) Cheney Bush2's VP can kill small fowl from his limousine and shoot other hunters in the face ...great choice McCaint ...a great choice.....

And I guess its all true that.....anothe VP can shoot from flying airplanes heliocopters and other flying dirigibles (balloons)..its okay...

"The Candidate does not speak for the Campaign...."

Posted by: AlexP1 | August 29, 2008 12:28 PM | Report abuse

Why would you pick a former beauty queen with two years of governing experience over a woman like Kay Bailey Hutchison or Christine Tood Whitman?

I know there are women out there who are pissed a young inexperience black guy got promoted over an older and more experience woman, but then to turn around and pick a woman Republican for Veep and have it be this particular woman - I mean, there are other memes out there too that say "The younger, good looking girl gets the promotion."

That's supposed to rally women to McCain?

Really?

Posted by: Confused | August 29, 2008 12:28 PM | Report abuse

I think McCain has just brought the age question to the foreground. He was doing extremely well with people not caring that he would be one of our oldest presidents ever, but now people are really going to be thinking about that. If McCain was in his 50s or low 60s, I'd say this was a great pick. But being in his 70s changes the equation a bit for me.

Posted by: Gary | August 29, 2008 12:28 PM | Report abuse

>>DB wrote: "Geez, is AsperGirl back? Thank heavens-- I hadn't heard enough inane and incomprehensible Republican talking points trashing Obama and playing up McCain."

It's going to be such a pleasure watching all you Obama supporters who are much, much stupider than the female Clinton supporters, who have been sexist and belittling of women all year, posturing as if you are smarter than they, when in fact you are quite stupid and narcissistic, eat it when your pop idol narcissist gets trounced this Fall.

Posted by: AsperGirl | August 29, 2008 12:28 PM | Report abuse

I think it was an interesting choice that time will tell if it turns out to be a Quayle or Truman (people said the same thing about him being a heat beat away). She brings youth, reform (i.e., change), ethics, and actually real executive experience. Palin has actually had to work with both R and D to get things accomplished in her state unlike Obama who has not once crossed the party line since he was elected to the Senate. Her weakness is her lack of experience and shallow record, which I would add are also Obama’s weaknesses.

I do not think she will appeal to the hard core Hillary D supporter, but she will bring voters who would vote for a woman and young people since they can identify with her as Obama brings in African Americans and youth who can identify with him. However, I would say Obama would have a larger voting block of sympathizers.

I think the R convention and the debates will be critical for her. If she gives a great speech and does well in the debates not to mention stump speeches she will go a long way in silencing her critics (actually you can’t silence them only marginalize them).

After watching Obama last night, I thought maybe this election was over, but I think Palin has the potential to make this a race about change rather than just rhetoric. This might be a fun election after all.

Posted by: sltiowa | August 29, 2008 12:27 PM | Report abuse

If she is so anti-abortion, why would the PUMAs, who are presumably pro-choice and fow whom that is an issue, flock to her?

Posted by: Spodeworld | August 29, 2008 12:27 PM | Report abuse

The pick reeks of desperation and identity politics. And there goes the experience argument. And McCain is going to look like a dirty old man on stage next to Palin. Dumb move, unless Hillary supporters are even dumber and fall for this.

Posted by: Vincent F | August 29, 2008 11:10 AM

Yeah, and grandpa better hope she isn't taller than his "impressive" 5'6"! It will look really funny if she wears 2' heels and towers over the dirty old bugger!

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 12:27 PM | Report abuse

McCain may score some disaffected Hillary supporters, but he's opened a huge can of worms for the rank and file republicans:

What is more unpalatable, a black man as president, or a woman?

And before you say, wait, she's only VP nominee, should McCain win, she will be the presumed head of hte Republican Party in '12 or '16, depending on whether McCain can physically endure the rigors of the office.

So, I guess we shall see what soft bigotry weighs stronger on the hearts of Republicans come November 2.

Posted by: Dilemmas | August 29, 2008 12:27 PM | Report abuse

John McCain turns 72 today. So Sarah Palin is a VP candidate who is closer to the presidency than any other candidate in history. John McCain hopefully knows a lot more about her qualifications than we do, or we are in for a heap of trouble.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 12:27 PM | Report abuse

she is a great choice, biden will have to watch his manners when they debate...it's going to be great...

Posted by: Dwight | August 29, 2008 12:27 PM | Report abuse

I don't think McCain attracts Hillary supporters with this pick; I think he alienates them. John, do you really think women are that shallow?

As a 20-year Republican, I find this a totally mystifying pick. Ridge might have delivered PA, which has gone Democratic for the last four elections. It's not like the pro-lifers were going to vote for Obama in protest.

This pick cuts off McCain's best argument against Obama at the knees; experience. And I think this is too much, too soon for Palin. At least with Obama, it was his idea, and the last bruising 18 months have demonstrated he can handle the pressure. This is sink-or-swim for Palin, and shows very poor judgment by McCain.

Posted by: Don from PA | August 29, 2008 12:26 PM | Report abuse

A woman with no national experience, mayor of a small town until two years ago, now chosen to be the next president, if McCain (who would be 80 years old at the end of a second term) is elected and cannot serve out his tenure? On paper, it seems absurd, but the choice was not intended to appeal to the rational side of voters, but rather to the disaffection of some Hillary supporters whose latest hopes were frustrated by Obama's choice of Biden for a running mate.

How successful will it be is hard to predict, but it probably has as many downsides as advantages. An important question will be how the Democrats respond. If wise, they would seek a prominent response from Hillary Clinton, pointing out that Palin opposes everything Hillary stands for, including abortion rights and environmental preservation. Ultimately, as many have pointed out, but as is typically forgotten in the light of daily events, it will be Obama vs McCain, and not Biden or anyone else vs Palin.

Posted by: Fred Moolten | August 29, 2008 12:26 PM | Report abuse

OK. JM's pick for VP is questionable... or it is "out of the box." Let's just for a minute, get down to what Palin is FOR.

Republicans, Disenfranchised Dems, Independents and PUMAS...
if you care about the environment and wildlife, you need to see Palin's position on these issues.

This is a Secure link below from Defenders of Wildlife. It is a video that is VERY disturbing to say the least. Please take the time to take a look

https://secure.defenders.org/site/Advocacy?page=UserAction&id=839&s_einterest=C3C4&s_Affiliate=savewolves_&JServSessionIdr012=ljg285p402.app23a

Posted by: Jersey John | August 29, 2008 12:26 PM | Report abuse

Years and years of male leadership haven't gotten us very far, except in the scandal and ego department. I'm thrilled that there's a chance a woman could make a difference and I welcome a "REAL" change.

Posted by: Jen | August 29, 2008 12:26 PM | Report abuse

sure smells a lot like pandering to me....in spite of the fact this woman is clearly not qualified (keep in mind Alaska is only large enough to have 1 member in the House of Reps)-- effectively completely discounting any "experience" arguments McCain has against Obama-- what she does have is: (a) she's a woman; pretty BLATANTLY going after ex-Hillary supporters here. I think they're going to be offended by this; (b) she's pro-life-- satisfying the evangelical constituency, who would ignore every other issue on the planet as long as they're satisfied on this relatively minore issue in the grand scheme of things; (c) she's a "reformer" -- this is admittedly a strength for McCain in trying to look "mavericky," in spite of the fact that he is anything but...

now compare McCain's choice to Joe Biden. hmmm, sure seems like Obama wins out in demonstrating superior judgment once again. not to mention, all of a sudden McCain's best argument, i.e. "experience," can't really be made with a straight face anymore...

Posted by: whenuwerehereb4 | August 29, 2008 12:25 PM | Report abuse

How shallow does John McCain think women are? Palin is a former beauty queen, NRA member, and pro-life. Women won't vote for a woman just because she's female. The woman I would vote for must be qualified and an advocate for our interests.

Posted by: Mary | August 29, 2008 12:25 PM | Report abuse

Are they completely mindless? Hillary Clinton supporters will be insulted by this selection if it's supposed to pull them over to the McCain camp. Clinton supporters didn't support Hillary just because she is a woman, but because she is a brilliant, experienced policy-wonk and strategist who cares deeply about the disaffected in this country and around the world and has proven herself over and over again.

Palin has no experience whatsoever that could transfer to being President of the U.S. And John McCain could drop dead at any moment! The whole thing is incredibly scary and enough to drive this Hillary supporter far to the left.

How does being a prisoner of war and deciding to keep a down-syndrome baby qualify you to become President? The Republican Party has lost all credibility and common sense.

I hope she's got a stay-at-home husband to take care of the down-syndrome child while she does the VP or President job. Otherwise, she better make health-care and child-care worker wages a part of her stump speeches.

This selection only assures that McCain lacks the wisdom and judgement to be president.

What a joke. Smart Republicans and Independents will be coming over to the Obama campaign in droves.

Posted by: Celia | August 29, 2008 12:24 PM | Report abuse

The viciousness of the left-wingers is strong evidence of how blind-sided, bewildered and worried they are....a stunner indeed!

PS... AsperGirl , I Love You!!

Posted by: LuvPalin | August 29, 2008 12:24 PM | Report abuse

Cathy in DC wrote:
"Palin is a great pick. The Dems (DNC, Howard Dean) showed their disrespect for women and that they are Party (Circus) that no longer represents women. I was leaning toward McCain and now the Republicans definitely have MY vote. I am woman hear me roar, in numbers TOO big to IGNORE."

Cathy, despite the fact that you're a woman, you're clearly a fool. Enjoy Palin's anti-woman policies. You have more to lose than I do.

Posted by: james | August 29, 2008 12:24 PM | Report abuse

To rosey,

How can you say that one should choose based solely on the candidate, not the running mate?! The most important role the VP plays is to step into the role of President should the President die or become incapacitated -- and given McCain age, that is a very real possibility. And as for the VP being nothing more than decoration, tell that to Dick Cheney.

Posted by: OG | August 29, 2008 12:24 PM | Report abuse

I am reasonably certain that Spiro "Ted" Agnew had been Governor of Maryland for two years when Nixon picked him in 1968 as his running mate. Prior to 1966, Agnew was a county executive. You know, or should know, the rest of the story.

Posted by: Zeke | August 29, 2008 12:23 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: bradcpa
"This lady is not ready to be President."

And Obama IS??

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 12:23 PM | Report abuse

OMG! The Obama supporters are wetting themselves. The post convention coverage has been squelched with this announcement. I love it!

Posted by: Dianne72
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I think the wetting is all you. As usual...

All this does is say: "I got someone with a vagina on my ticket, ladies!" A woman with no foreign affairs experience, right wing views on women's issues and under investigation. Oh, McCain, Gustav is not your only problem.

Posted by: McCain/Palin: See, I like broads too... | August 29, 2008 12:23 PM | Report abuse

There goes the experience factor, McCain's only "positive". He has had four melanomas already, and is several years older than his father and grandfather were when they suddenly dropped dead of heart attacks.

Sarah Palin? Couldn't they get Monica Goodling?

Posted by: gkam | August 29, 2008 12:23 PM | Report abuse

Hey, 'Pubs, keep good thoughts. Maybe we'll discover that she's been on Prozac or something, so McThuselah can replace her early in the season with his REAL pick but still try to play the feminist card.

I agree with whoever said Christy Whitman would have been a good choice, if he wanted a woman there. Guess he didn't want a THINKING woman.

Posted by: deeppeace | August 29, 2008 12:23 PM | Report abuse

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My family are excited about the McCain-Palin Republican Ticket.

We will vote for "change".

We are behind Gov. Palin for V.P.....Her record is vigorous and conservative. And she is just the opposite of Hillary Clinton.

Go girl..GO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

.

Posted by: JAMadison4 | August 29, 2008 12:22 PM | Report abuse

Sarah "Dan Quayle" Palin

Posted by: RobRoy1 | August 29, 2008 12:22 PM | Report abuse

See? No one does read these posts. Alaska - a state with so much oil money that there's no income or sales tax, and the government ends up giving money away to the citizens. This year's check was $1,200.

http://www.adn.com/news/alaska/story/485115.html

--"Hey.. This lady's balanced two state budgets..

How many taxpayer budgets has Barackus Caligula balanced?

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 12:15 PM--""

Not only did she balance the budget, she did it TWICE.

Posted by: NoOneImportant | August 29, 2008 12:21 PM | Report abuse

The problem with Palin is that she represents the extremist wing of the Republican Party, the portion of the party whose restrictive social agenda and apocalyptic approach to foreign policy have turned off millions of voters. It was Bush's pandering to this wing of the party, combined with his disastrous foreign policy that made him the least popular president in American history.

GOP voters nominated McCain because they knew that the Democrats would slaughter a representative of the Christian right (hence the panic as Huckabee started inspiring fervor in the base), and hoped that his (undeserved) "independent maverick" reputation could stave off inevitable defeat. That right wing extremism comes packaged in a relatively young woman rather than a white guy with a Southern accent won't matter if the Democrats let voters know that she's not only anti-abortion but anti-science, and in general a right wingnut, which she is.

And yes, not only does this pick destroy McCain's experience argument, it opens up for discussion McCain's other great weakness -- his age and health.

So the question will be who defines her. If the GOP can shout loud enough that she's a "reformer," and a "fresh face," for the next ten weeks it can work. If her actual record and views become known, and they are linked to the fact that McCain would be 80 by the time he finished his second term, it's a significant liability.

It also looks a little desperate, subtly eroding McCain's claim to wisdome, maturity and judgement.

Posted by: jcc2455 | August 29, 2008 12:21 PM | Report abuse

This is better than the movies. We have tragedy and comedy, and I don't know whether to cry or to laugh. Politics is entertainment. It's going to be a blockbuster in November!

Posted by: plainpopcorn | August 29, 2008 12:21 PM | Report abuse

Hey.. This lady's balanced two state budgets..

How many taxpayer budgets has Barackus Caligula balanced?"

Posted by: Anonymous

An oil state with sixteen people in it? Nice name for a guy who has made history with resistance from morons like you, whose numbers are legion but, thankfully, diminishing.

Posted by: edwcorey" | August 29, 2008 12:20 PM | Report abuse

No, Palin won't pull in the hard-core Hillary voters for McCain, but no woman was going to. If you're a liberal woman, you're going to vote for Obama.

But don't think that this won't help McCain with centrist women. Here's a hint: not all women are pro-choice.

Posted by: AK | August 29, 2008 12:20 PM | Report abuse

Chris wrote:

If any bitter Hillary supporter

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Funny, I've heard they refer to your type as "those stupid, uninformed troll boys."

And that's when they're being kind...

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 12:20 PM | Report abuse

John McCain likes to be thought of as bold, but there comes a point where boldness crosses the line and becomes foolishness, and Mr. McCain just went well past it. All his "inexperience" strategy just went out the window.

Posted by: FilmMD | August 29, 2008 12:20 PM | Report abuse

Biden in VP Debate: I know Hillary Clinton. Hillary Clinton is a friend of mine. You're no Hillary Clinton.

Posted by: DemoDevil | August 29, 2008 12:20 PM | Report abuse

Well, he may have gone with the 'lesser luminary' approach. He won't have to worry about her shield outshining his.

Posted by: Ron | August 29, 2008 12:19 PM | Report abuse

This lady is not ready to be President. Is she qualified to chase down loose nukes when her experence is chasing down loose Moose in a small Alaskan town? The Republicans are going from bad to worse.

Posted by: bradcpa | August 29, 2008 12:19 PM | Report abuse

Further evidence that McCain is out of touch.

Posted by: Kevin Morgan | August 29, 2008 12:19 PM | Report abuse

Has she even been outside of Alaska? Could she name the three branches of government or the 50 states. Obama by 15.

Posted by: WTF? | August 29, 2008 12:18 PM | Report abuse

Wow. It seems very desperate to me. It will help McCain galvanize the evangelicals, get lots of free press and dominate the news cycle. Yet what else does it give him? Hillary voters? Can you imagine a Hillary voter switching to Palin? It is a slap in the face to the long and distinguished career Hillary has had. Palin being totally pro life will not help get Hillary voters either. Experience argument against Obama? Only myopic republicans would consider Palin experience anywhere near Obama's mayor of a tiny town then two years as governor of Alaska compares with 8 years as Illinois state rep and two as a us senator on foreign relations committee? Palin also is for drilling in ANWR and does not even want polar bears to be considered endangered. How many independents agree with those points of view? Republicans will say she has executive experience but being governor of alaska where the government pays everyone more than 1,000 dollars per year with a tiny population hardly seems to qualify her as an executive who knows something about business. This election will be about the economy and national security. How does she help in either of these areas? If McCain really wanted to gamble should have convinced Powell or Bloomberg to go on the ticket. Instead he brings in someone very inexperienced who is far from the middle of the political spectrum.

Posted by: Brian | August 29, 2008 12:18 PM | Report abuse

wow!!! McCain just sealed the deal with getting the angry female Democratic voters by picking Palin as V.P.! I am one of those angry female Dems who will be voting for McCain. His choice of Palin, another maverick, is a shoe in for winning this election. When the Dems lose in Nov. they will learn never to treat a qualified much loved first woman presidential candidate like dirt.

Had McCain picked some creepy religious nut for V.P. I may have not voted at all, but wow, what a pick with Palin. The Democrats had better learn from this. We will not stand for corruption in our nominating process EVER. Obama is an arrogant disrespectful jerk and we are going to serve him to McCain for breakfast. I will do my part to keep the racist elitist disrespectful Obamas' out of the white house by voting against them.

This is about protecting democracy and our country. The Dems had a corrupt nominating process, they bashed Hillary Clinton into submission, and we will not allow corruption in our party. Obama did not win this nomination any more than Bush won the 2000 election. Both were stolen and we must protect Democracy by opposing the Obama regime which has usurped the Democratic Party. Where did Obama get all that $$$, I am suspicious. NO OBAMA.

Posted by: Shelby | August 29, 2008 12:18 PM | Report abuse

I'm warning everyone, underestimate Sarah Palin at your peril.
I vehemently disagree with her views on social issues, but there is no doubt that she is a tough, skillful administrator who successfully crushed a gas pipeline contract formed by her predecessor that would have handed over mountains of Alaska revenues to BP, ExxonMobil and ConocoPhillips. Big Oil is scared of Palin, make no mistake, and I promise you that the Republicans will play that up in the coming weeks.
She might not be able to beat Biden in a head-to-head debate, but she's fully capable of matching him--and in a race this tight, that just might be good enough.
Get ready for a fight, folks, because it's on.

Posted by: Mel | August 29, 2008 12:18 PM | Report abuse

At McCain's age and the chances of dying in office quite high, Palin is not qualified to bounce into the Oval Office, upon that day.

Posted by: mugwamp | August 29, 2008 12:18 PM | Report abuse

McCain showed a lot more courage in his VP pick than Obama.

The media's sexism is still alive and well when it comes to Hillary -- and all women. Gene Robinson just proved the point himself.

Watch out Sarah Palin. Even tho I disagree with your politics and I won't vote for you and McCain, you certainly have my respect for your own personal accomplishments. No one should diss you for that.

I'm still deciding whether I'll vote for Obama, meanwhile I support the efforts of http://www.WoMenBoycottMSNBC.com

Posted by: Not for McCain or Obama | August 29, 2008 12:18 PM | Report abuse

What a colossal blunder on the part of that old pander, McCain.

Sarah (Quayle)Palin is a woman in biology only. She is against a woman's right to choose, she supports the insane war on Iraq, she advocates for guns and against conservation of the natural resources of her own beautiful state. Her nomination is an insult to all Hillary supporters and will be rejected as the blatent patronizing that it is.

Palin has been governor for less than two years, before that she was mayor of a town of 5,000 people. Now the 72 year old McCain wants to place her one (feeble) heartbeat away from the presidency? Not on your life, Sen. McCain!

Even seeing Pops McCain embrace Palin on the stage will be creepy beyond belief!

After that landmark speech by Obama last night and the marvelous convention, the nomination of Sarah Palin is a dream come true for Democrats.

Obama/Biden '08

Posted by: dee | August 29, 2008 12:17 PM | Report abuse

Biden's best strategy is too be exceedingly polite and let Sarah Palin explain herself to the american electorate.

Posted by: del3 | August 29, 2008 12:17 PM | Report abuse

This has got to be a hoax! McCain's campaign probably leaked a fake name just to get the publicity. Nebraska has three times as many people as Alaska, NEBRASKA! This has got to be a prank!

Posted by: DDSinNE | August 29, 2008 12:17 PM | Report abuse

I think she is cute, but that is only going to go so far. After everything is said and done, her credentials will do her in. Barack's credentials, while not stunning, are much more serious than hers.

Posted by: dogeatdog | August 29, 2008 12:17 PM | Report abuse

I cannot wait for a debate! McCain/Palin are going to chew those boys up. Obama cannot think on his feet because he doesn't know ANYTHING unless it is scripted for him. Biden has a smart mouth that is going to get him in trouble. McCain knows who he is and SHE can hold her own with any of them. I love it. What a nice surprise!

Posted by: Right Time | August 29, 2008 12:17 PM | Report abuse

OMG! The Obama supporters are wetting themselves. The post convention coverage has been squelched with this announcement. I love it!

Posted by: Dianne72 | August 29, 2008 12:17 PM | Report abuse

I just don't think this was a smart choice. Palin is competent, but I've seen her in interviews and she really isn't ready for primetime. Goodbye to any experience argument McCain might want to make against Obama in the fall. That was his best shot, he was riding high in the polls in the wake of Russia's aggression last week.

God forbid something were to happen to McCain, but is Palin *really* ready to take over the office?

I guess this will be good for refocusing the discussion after the Dem convention.

Posted by: John M. | August 29, 2008 12:16 PM | Report abuse

I think McCain just wanted to get in her pants, and this was the only way to do it. McCain might be down to just one house by November! I hope that pre-nup is solid, Mrs McCain #2!

Posted by: Vincent F | August 29, 2008 12:16 PM | Report abuse

well now....all this hoopla over number two.....
Let's face it folks...the REAL choice should be made SIMPLY by the experience and trak record of the canidate. NOT the running mate. Give me a break. VP is like a decoration...that is all. We all know that any REAL decisions made within the office of the president, are done with a host of aides to the subject at hand at the moment. NOT what the VP thinks....anyone with a mind....please look at your history and then make your choice based on what you have learned....the ONLY smart choice is McCain.

Posted by: rosey | August 29, 2008 12:16 PM | Report abuse

Wow, what a bold choice!

Sarah Palin gives McCain the opportunity to tie his whole campaign into a reform Washington DC theme.

Underestimate her at your own peril Dems.

Btw, a close look at Senator Obama reveals just another Chicago politician who gives a good speech but has absolutely no accomplishments in any office he has held while supporting Mayor Daley's cronies when real reform in Chicago was possible.

His choice of Biden as a running mate, is an explicit admission of lack of experience.

Posted by: king2641 | August 29, 2008 12:16 PM | Report abuse

it's more of the past republican media control - picking a candidate that will draw his name to the spotlight. instead of picking a candidate based on qualifications, mccain has chosen a candidate in hopes of capturing attention of young women. would mccain have picked a man with the same qualifications? No. This is offensive as to women and especially to Hillary and her supporters.
Moreover, Palin has a suspicious past in regards to abusing her political power. Sounds like more of Bush's disregard for the Constitution.

Posted by: kbh | August 29, 2008 12:16 PM | Report abuse

Obama could have chosen an 'election VP'...someone to deliver a particular voting demographic or swing state. Instead, he chose someone with extensive experience in foreign policy (an area he has been criticized as being too inexperienced in) and someone with a reputation of speaking truth to power. Message: Obama picks a VP to help him govern more effectively.

McCain did chose an 'election VP'...Palin was chosen to help deliver the votes of women (Hillary supporters or more independently-minded women). He could have, but did not, chose someone with extensive domestic economic experience (an area he has admitted is a weakness for him). Message: McCain picks a VP to help him deliver votes in this election, but not someone to help him govern.

It's clear that Obama made a more thoughtful, long-term, choice...which are the type of choices I'd like to see our President making. McCain made a choice that he hopes will help him get elected...sort of like his choices to flip-flop on Bush tax cuts, his own immigration legislation, etc, etc. In my mind, a real 'maverick' isn't the sort of person who makes major decisions just to get elected...

Posted by: icposse2000 | August 29, 2008 12:16 PM | Report abuse

Go Palin! I see a lot of fear in these comments. I say, throw caution to the wind. Be bolder. Be more daring. Why always go for the safe choice? Whim can be wonderful. The worst thing that can happen is thermonuclear annihilation. You were going to DIE anyway. Such careful consideration won't earn you a place in Valhalla, you timid little nobodies, whining your way to the grave.

Posted by: R | August 29, 2008 12:15 PM | Report abuse


Hey.. This lady's balanced two state budgets..

How many taxpayer budgets has Barackus Caligula balanced?

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 12:15 PM | Report abuse

He really is McInsane.

As for the Republican Party, this is the best 'diversity' they could come up with? A well-off white woman with a nice smile, a self-described 'hockey mom' from Alaska?

And this on top of President Hurricane Idiocy hitting the Republican convention next week.

Sweet~! I see a Democratic landslide ahead.

Posted by: Captain John | August 29, 2008 12:15 PM | Report abuse

Time to talk issues, because the "lack of experience" argument just flew out the door. For those writing that it's only a VP position, and not actually president, you are way off base. The reason for a VP is so that there is someone to step immediately if, god-forbid, it is necessary. Not on-the-job training.

Aspergirl, I almost read your blog, but I figured I'd wait for the movie.

Posted by: Wow | August 29, 2008 12:15 PM | Report abuse

BZ wrote:

given that Alaska makes so much money from oil, when was the last time that it didn't have a balanced budget?
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Given Alaskan politics are so corrupt, I have to wonder about Palin's background, too...

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 12:15 PM | Report abuse

I'm afraid it's a very smart move. There was no one he could choose that I think would have really helped him anyway. With Palin though, he reinvigorates his "maverick" brand; has someone who can talk about fiscal conservatism; keeps the pro-lifers happy; may actually get out a significant number of conservative women who don't generally vote (and there are *lots* of them); and may be able to pick off a significant number of independents who had been supporting Clinton. It might be enough.

Posted by: MOVoice | August 29, 2008 12:15 PM | Report abuse

Gramps is desperate and I question if he is starting to lose it mentally. If any bitter Hillary supporter cannot see this for the blatent pander it is, then they deserve old mcsame and this gurl.

Posted by: chris | August 29, 2008 12:15 PM | Report abuse


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Now THAT'S REAL CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN!

Compare with Plagiarist-Joe!!!!!!

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Posted by: ALEX H. | August 29, 2008 12:15 PM | Report abuse

JamesT -

Thank you for making it so easy to spot the Republicans on this blog. Your angry, nastey, spiteful, vitriolic temperment is the exact reason we need to throw your party out of office in November. I can't wait to see the Obama Administration bring back decency to the White House. You're an embarrassment to yourself and your party..but then, we're used to it after the last eight years.

Posted by: DW | August 29, 2008 12:14 PM | Report abuse

it seems to me a little strange that pro-obama posters are complaining about gov. palin's lack of experience. she's been a governor for just a smidge less time than he's been a (junior) senator. he's the one that has turned "experience" into a swear word. but, if american voters want something new and fresh and shiny (how audacious!), now both tickets offer something to play with.

both obama and palin are completely inappropriate choices to run the most powerful country in the world. her pick further highlights the absurdity of picking someone with no experience to lead (maybe she's a good orator), except, she's not going to be doing the leading so long as mccain is still kicking. a vote for mccain simply requires a good look at his medical history. a vote for obama requires a radical leap of faith.

Posted by: nebraska | August 29, 2008 12:14 PM | Report abuse

McCain is going to have to completely scrap his "experience" criticism of Obama, now that his ticket proposes a 1st term governor being a heartbeat away from the presidency.

If something happens to McCain can you imagine Palin going head to head with Putin? She has NO foreign policy experience.

Posted by: No thanks | August 29, 2008 12:14 PM | Report abuse

To whoever said Christine Todd-Whitman would have been a better pick (assuming McCain was determined to pick a woman): Exactly right! Whitman would have been a great pick! Too bad he missed. I guess if you're a maverick, you swing for the home runs, but that means you strike out sometimes.

Posted by: Anon | August 29, 2008 12:14 PM | Report abuse

"I just hope that the Hillary voters will see this move for the ploy that it is."

Do you consider Biden's pick a "ploy" too? Such hypocrisy.

Posted by: rmorrow | August 29, 2008 12:14 PM | Report abuse

Forget all the experience arguments. This is a purely cynical political move by the McCain campaign to use Palin's womanhood as a shield, play defense, and hope the Dems shoot themselves in the foot yet again.

Will Biden "win" the VP debate? Almost certainly, but that's not the real discussion now. With Palin, as with Bush in 2000 & 2004, the bar can be set so low, that it will be seen as a victory for her if she just does well. Plus, the Dems, and Biden, have to be careful coming strong after her and get labeled as misogynistic. The McCain campaign is going to play both sides on this: tout themselves as progressive for nominating a woman while, at the same time, use Palin's womanhood to try to deflect some of the harshness of Biden's/Obama's/the Dems' criticisms of her.

Also, while extremely obvious, putting Palin on the ticket is a move to keep woman (shall we say "soccer moms"?) from drifting from the GOP to voting for Obama.

Is this a transparent pick? Sure, but that doesn't mean it won't translate to votes come November.

Posted by: Strategery | August 29, 2008 12:13 PM | Report abuse

Just curious: given that Alaska makes so much money from oil, when was the last time that it didn't have a balanced budget?

Posted by: BZ | August 29, 2008 12:13 PM | Report abuse

The liberals are having a fit because McCain picks a pro-life woman? What else is new? This is a great pick from a political perspective so that McCain can appear do distance himself from Bush while apppearing to shore up the conservative base. This will also help his standing with independent and conservative women. The race is tight and Obama should be concerned about the impact this choice could have on the race.

Posted by: Dan | August 29, 2008 12:13 PM | Report abuse

I am 52 year old white woman from North Carolina who is an elder in the Presbyterian church and the mother of a child with Down Syndrome. I did not get tested when i was pregnant even though i was over 35 because i knew that i would not have an abortion if the baby had Down Syndrome or any other problem. This is completely compatible with my strong pro-choice position and my long-time support of Barack Obama for president. I am glad that the Governor loves her child with Down Syndrome, but as a mother with a child with Down Syndrome I really disagree with any assumption that being a Christian and choosing not to abort a fetus with Down Syndrome is incompatible with being pro-choice and pro-Obama. Obama/Biden O8!

Posted by: Sharon | August 29, 2008 12:13 PM | Report abuse

Describing a Republican as a reformer is an oxymoron. The Grand Oil Party has very little, if anything, in the ways of reforms to offer people hope for meaningful change. Republicans are tied to the conservative status quo, tax cuts for the rich, promoting corporate interests over the common people, being anti-union and worker's rights, belligerent, warlike policies, neglecting education, being opposed to all persons having health care coverage, support trampling civil liberties and the Constitution, seek to appoint very conservative judges and Supreme Court justices, etc.

None of this constitutes a "reform" agenda.
Republicans, as Chris observes, will be unable without being hypocritical, to contend Barack is not sufficiently experienced to be president. Very few women who voted for Hillary because of her progressive policies and as a female will vote for McCain simply because he chose a woman, who is the antithesis of Hillary in her opinions.

Posted by: Independent | August 29, 2008 12:13 PM | Report abuse

A joint statement was just issued by the Taliban, the mullahs, and bin Laden:

"WTF? Get some clothes on this woman! Then stone her for entering a beauty contest!"

Posted by: Spectator2 | August 29, 2008 12:13 PM | Report abuse

This selection as running mate potentially allows McCain to create more distance between himself and the Bush presidency without hurting himself with the base.

Posted by: Bob Thompson | August 29, 2008 12:12 PM | Report abuse

Wow isn't this eerily similar to Dan Snyder's surprise pick of Zorn?

Posted by: Joel | August 29, 2008 12:12 PM | Report abuse

"No. The only thing that people care about in a VP is whether he or she is ready to be President."

Exactlyt right, the campaign and the votes tests the top of the ticket, the bottom of the ticket is solely important because of what it says abotut he person at the top, in terms of their judgment, priorities, and decision making. The one qualification to be vice PResident in the modern era as cited eleciton after election: Be ready to tqake over on Day 1, something that means so much more given that McCain would be the oldest president to take office and his health history. He based his decision on short term political calculation, and it is a bad one.

Posted by: kreuz_missile | August 29, 2008 12:12 PM | Report abuse

While being a mayor of a small town with about 6,700 souls can't quite be said to be a major accomplishment, last I checked, Alaska had a population of about 670,000. So it is no small feat to be elected governor of such a State. I mean, it is the equivalent of being mayor of Memphis or Austin or, for the Canadians out there, Winnipeg! So, in all seriousness and with all due respect to Ms. Palin, her experience level is not what I would have expected for a position such as Vice President of the United States.

Sounds like Sen. McCain gave himself a nice little birthday present today - but it may be one he comes to regret come November.

Posted by: Like ISeeIt | August 29, 2008 12:12 PM | Report abuse

Palin is a great pick. The Dems (DNC, Howard Dean) showed their disrespect for women and that they are Party (Circus) that no longer represents women. I was leaning toward McCain and now the Republicans definitely have MY vote. I am woman hear me roar, in numbers TOO big to IGNORE.

Posted by: Cathy in DC | August 29, 2008 12:12 PM | Report abuse

What is great is that McCain's VP has
MORE EXECUTIVE EXPERIENCE
than Empty Suit Hussein has!
More executive experience than
For The War Before He Was Against It
Big Mouth Biden has!
And she's a Washington outsider!
And she's a proven reformer!
And she's a woman, a mother, the wife of an Iraq
mobilized soldier!

On the other hand the DemoCr*ps
give us the Cowardly Surrender Monkeys
Leave You Only With The Change in Your Pocket
Obama bin Biden.

Posted by: JamesT | August 29, 2008 12:11 PM | Report abuse

Hey Aspergirl, I like Hillary fine as a person, I don't like her as a president though. I like all sorts of women for their capabilities in their jobs, not a problem.

But I don't like Gloria Steinem, I don't like Gloria Allred, and I don't like you.

This doesn't make me a misogynist, it makes me normal. Claiming that anyone who disagrees with you must hate all women .. you take a lot on yourself, don't you? You are not all women, you're just pathetic.

Posted by: misogynist | August 29, 2008 12:11 PM | Report abuse

Ann wrote:

I cannot see the strong women who supported Hillary supporting Sarah.

---------

I agree, there seems to be this sense the problems women have with Obama are "chick" issues.

That's not it.

The lack of understanding as to WHY Obama was, and IS, rejected by that core group of Democrats, both men and women, is apparent.

It has to do with truth, and the ad campaign.

Some people buy will buy into it, others won't, they see through it.

Posted by: Karl Moltivich, Jr. | August 29, 2008 12:11 PM | Report abuse


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The Palin Stunner

Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin

As governor of Alaska, Sarah Palin, shown here in a 2006 photo taken in Juneau, is among the most popular governors in the country and is widely viewed as a reformer. (AP Photo/ Brian Wallace/Juneua Empire)

DENVER -- John McCain's selection of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin to be his vice presidential running mate is a stunning surprise almost certain to recalibrate the race heading into the fall election.

The McCain campaign had make little secret of the fact that they wanted to pick a woman as the Arizona senator's running mate, believing that the rift caused by the protracted primary between Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton gave them an opportunity to pick up scads of disgruntled women.

While Palin was among those mentioned -- she cracked The Fix's Veepstakes Line on several occasions -- she was never seen as a serious contender: too young (she is in her early 40s), too inexperienced (she has been governor for less than two years) and from a state, in Alaska, that is not regarded as a battle ground.

When Palin gave birth to her fifth child, a son named Trig Paxson, in April and announced he had Down Syndrome, she was widely ruled out of the veepstakes. But, conversations obviously continued outside public view.

The Palin pick gives McCain a counterweight to the historical nature of the Democratic ticket, which features the first African American nominee of either party. Palin is the first woman to serve as the Republican vice presidential pick; Democrats crossed that Rubicon in 1984 when Geraldine Ferraro was Minnesota Sen. Walter Mondale's running mate in an election where the Democratic ticket was swamped by President Ronald Reagan.

In choosing Palin, McCain also doubles down on the maverick argument; Palin is the face of reform in the Republican party nationally and is clearly not of Washington -- a key element of her biography given how negative voter sentiment toward the nation's capital is currently.

Palin is also strongly pro-life and well liked by conservatives of all stripes, and her selection will be greeted with a huge sign of relief among those within the Republican base who feared that McCain might pick a pro-choice candidate like Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.) or former Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Ridge.

Palin also won quick confirmation from the fiscal conservative wing of the party in the form of Club For Growth president Pat Toomey. "At a time when many Republicans are still clinging to pork-barrel politics, Governor Palin has quickly become a leader on this issue," said Toomey. "She is a principled reformer who understands how badly wasteful spending has marred the Republican brand."

Palin's newness on the national scene is both her greatest strength and her biggest weakness.

On the one hand, she will be greeted as a fresh face with a compelling personal story that voters will likely react well to.

On the other, picking Palin complicates the argument forwarded by McCain that Obama's short resume makes him ill-equipped to be commander in chief. In picking