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By Chris Cillizza  |  August 27, 2008; 11:38 AM ET
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McCain is a dumb old war mongerer who disguises nationalism as patriotism, for those that still support Bush/McCain I'll translate it into American for you:


TERRORISM OIL PATRIOTISM, BUNKER BUSTER, ISLAM EVIL OIL OIL BUSH FLAG USA JESUS BUSH. PROUD GOD PATRIOT USA TERRORIST SAFETY OIL OIL $$$ WHITE HOUSE DEMOCRACY OIL FREEDOM DEATH WAR WAR OIL BUSH/MCCAIN!


There, now your brain cell can carry on pretending America is great and wonderful

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnb2IrsU1Cg

Posted by: Chester | August 27, 2008 4:49 PM | Report abuse

'Bizarre' is one word for McCain's hyper-nationalistic chest-thumping. He is insisting that oppressed people around the world "do not resent or resist America's democratic influence in the world".

Nope, no resentment at all - especially not in the insane neocon proving ground for exporting democracy...IRAQ!

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Posted by: McBush | August 27, 2008 3:05 PM | Report abuse

you're all about change and you pick a dinosaur lifer as your mate.

you detest lobbyists and pick the number one graft collecter.

your signature issue was your judgment on the war and you pick a pro-war mate.

you claim to represent the new politics and pick a codgy old attack dog

you claim to be able to reach across the aisle, yet you can't even get a handle on your own party

you claim to be a regular guy yet you reek of elitism

you claim to have made it on your own yet you say the government needs to help

you say these are not flip-flops, they are refinements

whatever

Posted by: the kiddie table speaks | August 27, 2008 2:38 PM | Report abuse

I don't have to be a Dem voter to see that he has compromised his message with this pick. I don't like hillary, but that doesn't change the fact that she probably would have been his best choice. the clinton bagggage would have yeilded a field day for us perhaps, but I think the sheer volume of scandal brings the value down.

clearly he, Obama, is weak and he has further demonstrated it with this decision. that is your problem, not mine. Of course I am going to point it out, as will many others. If he had chosen the Va governor, he would have had to suffer through the rookie comments, but his main message of change could remain. Just what is his main message now?

It doesn't matter what I personally say. It matters how this appears to voters who have not decided. this makes Mr rookie look weak and needing a Dad, a grown up and seasoned attack dog. so much for change, new politics, judgment on war, etc. the whole thing is now just a big pile of mush. One thing about hillary, she is not too mushy, especially after she matured on the campaign trail. Last night was her best moment and demonstrates to me that the Libs made the wrong choice.

why do you think we wanted the messiah all along and voted for him in droves during the primary. you libs are so simple. still not ready for prime time or the big chair. now go back and take your seat at the kiddie table with the worst speaker in history and Ms Reid.

Posted by: kingofzouk | August 27, 2008 2:29 PM | Report abuse

You're a financial planner and you want to invest my retirement savings in scratch tickets?"
"Trust me. I was a POW."


"You're a plumber and you're going to fix my clog with a stick of dynamite?"
"Trust me. I was a POW."


"You're a firefighter and you're going to put out the flames with gasoline?"
"Trust me. I was a POW."


"You're a jeweler and you're going to fix my Rolex with a hammer?"
"Trust me. I was a POW."


"You’re a nuclear physicist and you're giving out 'free samples' of enriched uranium to children?"
"Trust me. I was a POW."


"You're a surgeon and you're using a rusty hacksaw?"
"Trust me. I was a POW."


"You’re John McCain, the Republican candidate for president and you want to fix the country's problems even though you don’t know much about the economy,


-You McCain, don’t know how to use the internet,


-You McCain, don’t know how many houses you own or what kind of car you drive,


-You McCain, admit you don’t think clearly when you’re tired,


-You McCain, make frequent gaffes on foreign policy,


-You McCain, think offshore drilling is a short-term solution to high gas prices,


-You McCain, support torture and keeping the Guantanamo prison open,


-You McCain, make rash decisions and statements from which you have to quickly backtrack,


-You McCain, have an explosive temper on a hair trigger,


-Your idea of health care reform McCain, is 'wear more sunscreen,


-You're for stem cell research McCain, except when it's done on stem cells because you consider them all American citizens,


and you McCain, voted to support the policies of the worst president ever (Bush) 100 percent of the time this year?"


"Trust me, my friends. I was a POW."


Only in rightwing lunitic fringe Republicanland....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBfngOsvmA0
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Posted by: McCain = Bush/Cheney | August 27, 2008 2:28 PM | Report abuse

So you would have praised Obama for picking Hillary Clinton? Considering what you've had to say about Hillary in the past, that's hard to believe. Other than that, you offer a vague statement about picking an "agent of change", even though you mock Obama for claiming to bring change.

You'd insult Obama no matter who he chose. No matter what VP he picked, you'd crow about it being the "worst possible choice", and say it's proof that he's incompetent. I don't know why you try to pretend otherwise; nobody's buying it.

Posted by: Blarg | August 27, 2008 2:19 PM | Report abuse

"Noteworthy to me, too, was that she was proud to be everything except being a wife. "

that's the same thing my wife said. but who would want to be his wife? Saying that would set of the BS meter even more than it already went off. Perhaps if she offered to divorce him, she could get on the ticket next time around. she could blame every last lie on him and him alone. the gullible Libs would eat it up.

Posted by: kingofzouk | August 27, 2008 2:10 PM | Report abuse

I thought Hillary's speach was inspiring to the local crowd. Unfortunately, there's so much baggage in the party that I don't think she overcame the Clinton/Obama obstacle that plague's the innermind of the loyalists. Noteworthy to me, too, was that she was proud to be everything except being a wife. That, at least, would have brought Bill into the picture to share a united support for the Obama candidacy.

Posted by: JT | August 27, 2008 2:00 PM | Report abuse

Even Blarg seems sensible after all the Lib loons that have populated this page lately.

Why didn't he pick hillary? It seems straight forward to me. Was he afraid? If not her, how about some other agent of change, of new politics, someone not 100% in opposition to his signature - a lifer attack dog with strong ties to the swamp.

As far as McCain, the choice has severe implications since our party hands off to the next in line every time - except chaney and quayle.

I personally still prefer rudy although I doubt he will get it since he does not seem to be a vote getter. I also like Newt but same story.

I would choose the alaska governor or Eric Cantor. both are solid conservatives and good looking in a clean, articulate sort of way.

I don't care a whit for TPaw or Romney, but I also can't really stand Mccain either so I will basically be holding my breath for 4 years. but handing all three branches to the Libs is a disaster in the making, along the lines of another Carter admin in a worse world. alas, the good ones won't run and the bad ones fool the fools.

Posted by: kingofzouk | August 27, 2008 1:55 PM | Report abuse

NY Times Taking Another Beating [Kevin D. Williamson]

Times Co. advertising revenue down 16 percent year-over-year in July. From AP:

The company's flagship The New York Times paper had 15.3 percent lower ad revenue. At its New England media group, which includes The Boston Globe, July ad revenue dropped 24.5 percent.

In a pinch, indeed.


Posted by: what pinch dod to the NYTimes, Obama will do for you | August 27, 2008 1:47 PM | Report abuse

"Suppose you're a voter, and you've got candidate X and candidate Y. (Let's call them Barack and John) Candidate X agrees with you on everything, but you don't think that candidate can deliver on anything at all. Candidate Y you agree with on about half the issues, but he can deliver. Which candidate are you going to vote for?"

Then, perhaps mindful of how his off-the-cuff remarks might be taken, Clinton added after a pause: "This has nothing to do with what's going on now."

Posted by: the Lib sage speaks | August 27, 2008 1:46 PM | Report abuse

Trouble in MSDNC Paradise? [Greg Pollowitz]

TV Newser:

Tonight, just after 9pmET, Chris Matthews and Keith Olbermann were talking about Hillary Clinton's keynote speech. The chat ranged from her once formidable campaign, her place in the Clinton legacy, GOP tactics against her, Democratic party unity, and "the feelings of those people who felt they were screwed" by her not being the nominee.

When the discussion started going long, a producer got in Matthews' earpiece and wrapped him. "I'll wrap in a second," Matthews jumped.

Then it got weird.

Olbermmann introduced Democratic House Leader Steny Hoyer, "who has been standing by and listened to us go off at the mouth [making the talking-too-much hand motion] on the subject of the Sen. Clinton speech tonight."

Matthews took offense: "You made that sound, Keith. I can do the same to you. That's what I thought and I said it."

Since no one really watches this joke of a network, I can't see how this matters, other than the sheer delight in seeing two dingbats go to war. BTW, O"Reilly rules again and still in the ratings. Everyone seems to know that fox is the only reliable source for truthful news.

Posted by: wheels coming off the loon cart | August 27, 2008 1:42 PM | Report abuse

So, Zouk, who should Obama have picked as VP? You say Biden was the wrong choice, so you must have someone in mind. Who would you have preferred?

While you're at it, any thoughts on McCain's VP? Give us some of your famous analysis.

Posted by: Blarg | August 27, 2008 1:33 PM | Report abuse

Why would Repubs need to attack Obama? the other Dems are doing just fine at that. this is turning out to be an amusing farce of a campaign.

all we need to do is play their own words and demonstrate how liberal, inexperienced and inept the candidate is. his first major decision - picking biden. no seriously. Moliere couldn't do better.

Posted by: kingofzouk | August 27, 2008 1:28 PM | Report abuse

So every liberal "expert" on TV Saturday morning spontaneously asserted that Biden is no Washington insider because he commutes an hour by train home most nights. His heart is "back home in Delaware." This is a most preposterous, risible farce of a lie. So naturally, each and every one of the liberal media repeated it straight-faced and very earnestly. It warmed me to see my old reliable liberal moron media thinking they were fooling the public when they said in the same breath that a six-term senator and chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee is no Washington insider. Even we simple sons of the soil (I own a small gentleman's farm) could see through that howler.

The next endearingly obvious lie was that Biden is not really from Delaware (a small, reliable Democratic state), but rather from Scranton (in Pennsylvania, a big swing state), even though Biden left Scranton as a young child, at about the same age that Obama left Indonesia. (So why is Obama from Chicago and Biden from Scranton?) But because Biden had his nappies changed in Scranton (also the mythical home of Hillary during the primary season, I seem to recall), the moron media tell us he is really popular in Pennsylvania and will help carry the state for Obama. Except he never registered more than single digits in the Pennsylvania polls when he was running in the primary this season.

Nothing against old Joe, but if Obama had selected a ham sandwich as his running mate, our old friends the mainstream moron media would be just as gushing and enthusiastic. ("By picking a HAM sandwich, Obama, in a masterstroke, has sent a dog-whistle message that he is not a Muslim, as Muslims abhor ham. The ham sandwich also will do very well in the agricultural Midwest, which is a great hog-farming region, thus bringing into play another 47 electoral votes. Also, the ham sandwich will help unite the party because everyone likes a ham sandwich except the religious Jews, and they are part of the 23 percent of Jews who already vote Republican. The ham sandwich compares very favorably with the other shortlist VP choices. Unlike Biden, the ham sandwich doesn't talk much and never makes a gaffe; it just goes about its business being tasty and nutritious. Unlike Sen. Bayh, the ham sandwich is not bland, particularly when you put a little Dijon mustard on it. And unlike Gov. Keane, the ham sandwich is no novice; it has been around for thousands of years.")

Posted by: tony B | August 27, 2008 1:23 PM | Report abuse

Bill and Hillary Clinton are playing a good game by pretending to show party loyalty and unity, but it's all a sham. Their game plan is obvious. Since Hillary has been defeated by Obama and has not been chosen for his VP either, the Clintons only option to lead the party and for Hillary to become president is to see to it that the only person standing in their way to that goal is defeated in the general. They can't oppose Obama directly because they still need the Democratic Party in 2012, so they have to pretend that they support the Democrat's nominee this year by going through the motions. While they'll both support Obama lacklusterly now, their actual game plan is for Obama to lose in November in order to get this upstart Obama out of the way so Hillary will have a clear field in the 2012 elections. With McCain's age in 2012 close to 80 then, it's not likely that he'll run for a 2nd term, so whoever McCains VP is will have the inside track for the GOP. Unless another Barack Obama comes along by 2012, Hillary will have the inside track then and will run against whoever McCain will pick for his VP.

Posted by: madhatter | August 27, 2008 1:16 PM | Report abuse

The last several weeks demonstrate one vital fact: The Barack Obama campaign is floundering not because of gaffes, but because of its success. They have portrayed their candidate and his message precisely the way they want to. They have controlled every media situation. They have not been plagued by a rash of mistakes in the last few weeks. The Obama campaign is drowning because Americans simply do not like the message.

Posted by: what's your excuse this time? | August 27, 2008 1:15 PM | Report abuse

Her speech was inspiring, yet, some would say not enough to heal the wounds of Clinton's supporters. On top of that, after President Bill Clinton speaks tonight he will be leaving and will not be in attendence for Senator Obama's speech tomorrow night. This could all be seen as veiled slap in the face by the Clintons to the possible new leader and new face of the Democratic party.
Even more, the Louisiana Delegation and James Carville commented that the Democratic party isn't tough enough and that the attacks on the McCain camp need to be stepped up. I couldn't agree more, and in this I must invoke the words of former Louisiana Congressman Gillis Long and hopefully adjure these new non-fighting Democrats to listen and heed these wise words of Congressman Long when he said, "Democrats need to have the compassion to lead, but we must also have the strength to govern." We must also have the strength to play offense. A fight is ok every now and then.


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Posted by: Joshua W. Delano | August 27, 2008 1:13 PM | Report abuse

So when I rode with Rudy yesterday, it was hard to imagine what kind of reception he would receive. In fact, we had to get out of the motorcade and walk the final mile into the security checkpoint because of traffic tie-ups.

Rudy was up to the challenge.

But he needn't worry. I couldn't believe my eyes and ears, but literally every single Democrat -- many of them with badges indicating their delegate status -- cheered for him, shook his hand, posed for pictures, and told him how much they loved him.

I was fairly stunned.

It made me think about what a powerful vice-presidential running mate he would make for John McCain.

Besides Rudy's extraordinary bi-partisian popularity, he would give Hillary supporters a big reason to vote for McCain. I don't agree with his pro-choice position, but McCain is staunchly pro-life and Rudy's position would bring a ton of Democrats to the dance.

I know it's not conventional wisdom these days -- but John McCain could do a whole lot worse than picking Rudy.

Posted by: mike g | August 27, 2008 1:13 PM | Report abuse

Hillaries speech hit where it had too...unite the party, throw support to Obama, and point out that John "W" McCain is nothing more but the same. McCain can twist and turn the truth all he wants, but he's a 99% copy and paste of George W. Bush on all issues except abortion where he is prochoice and pro gay rights as proven by his voting record.

Posted by: DC | August 27, 2008 1:12 PM | Report abuse

I am really good at reaching across the aisle and diplomacy with dictators. Just don't ask me to reach out to other Democrats and clinton voters. Or fox news.

Are my sinking numbers just a realization that my entire campaign was about nothing? Perhaps a dissertation on exactly how gullible lefties are is in order. It could be my first real publication. Even though I am a writer, a professor, a senator, an editor and a community activist, whatever that is.

Posted by: snObama | August 27, 2008 1:02 PM | Report abuse

It looked like Michelle was back to her usual angry, bitter and mean self last night. What a scowl on her face. she looked like she was in the dentist chair or worse.

summary of hillaries speech:

Me, me, me, me, me and did I mention me. and if you don't mind go ahead and vote for that other guy, whatever his name is.
there I did it, satisfied?

Posted by: Obamanable Snojob | August 27, 2008 12:58 PM | Report abuse

mccain is senile:

Bill Clinton offered a "hypothetical" yesterday too ...

Posted by: JakeD | August 27, 2008 12:13 PM | Report abuse

Apparently the McCain campaign wasnt listening to the same speech everyone else was:

“Senator Clinton ran her presidential campaign making clear that Barack Obama is not prepared to lead as commander in chief, Nowhere tonight did she alter that assessment. Nowhere tonight did she say that Barack Obama is ready to lead. Millions of Hillary Clinton supporters and millions of Americans remain concerned about whether Barack Obama is ready to be President.”

Hillary Clinton:
"And when Barack Obama is in the White House, he'll revitalize our economy, defend the working people of America, and meet the global challenges of our time. Democrats know how to do this. As I recall, President Clinton and the Democrats did it before. And President Obama and the Democrats will do it again."

Posted by: mccain is senile | August 27, 2008 12:05 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: scrivener | August 27, 2008 11:53 AM | Report abuse

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