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West Virginia Primary Predictions!

Down about the fact that Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (N.Y.) remains in the Democratic presidential race despite Sen. Barack Obama's status as the presumptive nominee? Look on the bright side: the longer Clinton stays in the race, the more official Fix t-shirts we can give away!

Today's West Virginia Democratic primary is the latest chance for Fixistas to claim the hottest shirt in the business.

Polling seems to suggest that West Virginia will be a walk-over for Clinton; a new Suffolk University survey put Clinton ahead of Obama, 60 percent to 24 percent.

Given Clinton's lead, the trick in this primary prediction contest won't be getting the order of finish right but rather nailing the percentage of the vote for the two candidates.

Polls close in West Virginia at 7:30 p.m. eastern time, so no prediction posted after that time will be considered in the contest for the Fix t-shirt. Also, all predictions must be posted in the comments section below to be counted. Predictions emailed to The Fix are not eligible for the shirt.

Need a little entertainment while you are mulling your picks? Here are the two best things about West Virginia to the Fix's -- admittedly warped -- mind.

First, Kevin Pittsnogle.

Second, John Denver.

By Chris Cillizza  |  May 13, 2008; 7:00 AM ET
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The results in West Virginia speaks for itself, but at this point it has snowballed in Obama's direction.

Is Clinton Right That She's the Stronger Candidate?

http://www.youpolls.com/details.asp?pid=2401

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Posted by: Frank, Austin TX | May 15, 2008 10:14 AM | Report abuse

So once again that head WAPO Obama Shill
Chris is out to try to spin the Butt Kicking Hillary Clinton gave Empty Suit
Barack Hussein Obama in to an Obama Win.
Oh well Chris will go into Toxic Obamajuice
Rehab right after the Nov 2008 Election and
President Hillary Clinton Wins It! Just
Say No To Barack Hussein Obama! Here's my
glass jar to accept donations to pay for
Chris and the rest of WAPO Obama Shills
Toxic Obamajuice Drinker Rehab as well!
No Way Barack Hussein Obama Will Ever Be
The President of the United States!NOBAMA!

Posted by: Sandy5274 | May 14, 2008 4:57 PM | Report abuse

When they add in FL and MI, Hillary will win. PLUS she has had more superdelegates ready to vote for her since the getgo of this thing. I am SICK of the media forgetting that FL and MI MUST BE COUNTED. We will not be ignored and because they keep leaving our votes out of the race, everything they have said about Obama being ahead is completely false and misleading. Do any of you really think any judge will allow 6 million votes to be ignored? WE ARE SICK OF THIS. I have never seen so much injustice in a race for the nomination and this has Hillary supporters very pissed off. The biased media has slammed Hillary from the beginning and praised Obama. Did they think we wouldn't notice?

The rude and bullying, trashy, mesmerized Obamabots are going to look really silly when the big let down comes.

Posted by: Hillary 08 | May 13, 2008 10:14 PM | Report abuse

CLINTON 65.7
OBAMA 32.8

Clinton claims huge WV win changes the tide, but will the beaver state dam her hopes?

Posted by: JMOToole | May 13, 2008 7:29 PM | Report abuse

Clinton: 72
Obama: 27

Clinton makes a mountain out of a molehill after her victory in the Mountaineer State

Posted by: theseventen | May 13, 2008 7:26 PM | Report abuse

I hope the Democrats in West Virginia realize that we need them to come out in record numbers and make this right by voting for Hillary Clinton. Only Hillary Clinton can beat McCain. Obama can not be the nominee. He is an inexperienced racist unqualified for the job who BTW simply can't win in a general election! Fingers are crossed!

I am a Florida Democrat and I am pissed off that my vote for Hillary has not yet been counted. The DNC has been a huge let down and they had better get their act together or many disenfranchised voters are going to jump ship.

Oh, and maybe the DNC had better also recognize that we will never vote for a racist President that the media shoves down our throats, no matter if he/she is black or white or purple.

Posted by: Nexxus7 | May 13, 2008 7:26 PM | Report abuse

Hillary: 67%
Obama: 33%

Did you hear? Hillary won West Virginia by 30 pts. Yeah... so how about that house race in Mississippi.

Posted by: Eric Lopez | May 13, 2008 7:18 PM | Report abuse

Clinton- 67
Obama- 31

Clinton's win does not change narrative of race. Media focuses on Democrat Childers win in MS. Time is running out for Clinton.

Posted by: JtheMann | May 13, 2008 7:16 PM | Report abuse

One more Fix T-Shirt Prediction:

Clinton - 70 %
Obama - 35 %

Why can we have voters like in West Virginia? America deserves better.

Obama is so far left that he has left America with "GD America" crowd.

Posted by: YesWeCanForFree | May 13, 2008 7:16 PM | Report abuse

Hillary: 67%
Obama: 33%

Did you hear? Hillary won West Virginia by 30 by 30 pts. Yeah... so how about that house race in Mississippi.

Posted by: Eric Lopez | May 13, 2008 7:13 PM | Report abuse

Dems Clinton 62.7
Obama 32.5
Other 8.8
Reps Huckabee 65.5
McCain 27.2
Other 13.3

I give 'em both!

Posted by: D Moser | May 13, 2008 7:10 PM | Report abuse

CLINTON: 64
OBAMA: 34

Clinton declares her large win is proof she should continue. She is now accused of staying in the race to reduce her debt.

Posted by: Johnny Mac | May 13, 2008 7:04 PM | Report abuse

Clinton 71
Obama 29

Headline: Overwhelming victory in WV still leaves Clinton far behind; The only real winner tonight is a happy fixista with a new t-shirt.

Posted by: crodolfa | May 13, 2008 6:51 PM | Report abuse

Clinton 61.7 Obama 37.4 Other 0.9

Clinton wins in a cakewalk, but it's a hollow, meaningless victory as the naional press has already turned its attention to November. Tomorrow morning, 4 more superdelegates pledge their support to Obama, killing any momentum that HRC might like to claim.

Some commenter will make the case that it's like garbage time baskets scored long after the game has been decided.

Posted by: ghost | May 13, 2008 6:32 PM | Report abuse

West Virginia results:
Clinton 65
Obama 30
Edwards 5

storyline: Clinton Gets Moral Boost, Still Well Behind in Delegate Count and Fundraising

Posted by: Steve | May 13, 2008 6:11 PM | Report abuse

West Virginia results:

Clinton 64%
Obama 34%

Clinton wins big in WV, but the delegates she wins are offset by a deluge of superdelegates coming out for Obama.

Posted by: New Havener | May 13, 2008 6:01 PM | Report abuse

Clinton 67%
Obama 29%

Posted by: Chris Robinson | May 13, 2008 5:56 PM | Report abuse

Clinton: 64
Obama: 34
Other: 2

Storyline: Clinton claims "game-changer" victory, says that no Democrat can win in the fall without West Virginia. Obama congratulates her, and "Dream Ticket" speculation abounds (particularly from Wolf Blitzer on CNN).

Posted by: JakeDM | May 13, 2008 5:55 PM | Report abuse

Clinton 71
Obama 25

Networks call it as soon as polls close. John King draws giant circle around state on magic board, then pundits begin to talk about what this means for Obama in the fall.

Posted by: Zach | May 13, 2008 5:46 PM | Report abuse

Clinton 61
Obama 34
Edwards 5

Storyline: West Virginia, the pause that didn't refresh Clinton's campaign. If anything, her campaign's comparison of Obama to George Bush and "Mission Accomplished" has made it all the more evident that she would be a poisonous running-mate.

Posted by: egc52556 | May 13, 2008 5:38 PM | Report abuse

Clinton: 68
Obama: 27

Posted by: Lindsey | May 13, 2008 5:36 PM | Report abuse

Sprout & Lisa--

I'm pretty sure you are one person and therefore, ineligible for the tshirt. If youre going to try to fool fixistas, you need to do a better job than this:

"Ann, it's "leaving on a jet PLANE", not "play". If you are going to attempt a coy remark, at least know what you're talking about sheeesh.

The margin will be:
Clinton 70
Edwards 17
Obama 13

Edwards is out but the "anti-Hillary" bunch will vote for him anyway. The black vote will go to Obama along with a few select whites, the rest will go to Clinton. Obama will net ZERO pledged delegates from WV which should make their superdelegates rethink what their state wants.

Posted by: sprout | May 13, 2008 4:28 PM

Ann,
It's "leaving on a jet PLANE", not "play". God I hate it when people try to be coy with comments and then make a total fool of themselves. UGG
The margin will be
Clinton 75
Obama 12
Edwards 13
They know Edwards is out but will vote for him anyway as the "anti-Hillary vote". Obama will get the black vote and a few white votes, Clinton will get the rest.
Obama will net ZERO pledged delegates from WV.

Posted by: Lisa | May 13, 2008 4:24 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | May 13, 2008 5:30 PM | Report abuse

Clinton: 62
Obama: 37

Posted by: John from AR | May 13, 2008 5:11 PM | Report abuse

Clinton: 63%
Obama: 35%
Edwards/Other: 2%

Posted by: jstar | May 13, 2008 5:05 PM | Report abuse

While Clinton is highly predicted to take West Virginia by a landslide 60 to 24, I suspect Obama may do a little better than expected. We believe Obama really connected with the former veterans and a lot of the undecided voters when they discovered Obama can shoot some pool. So we're predicting another tight race like Indiana with Clinton eventually winning the race.

Regardless of the outcome in West Virginia many of us are really proud of Obama and the way he has conducted his campaign. Koodos to Obama!

Wishing Obama the very best!


Now, please tell us how can we claim our free "Fix T-shirt". Thanks.


Posted by: Gloria | May 13, 2008 5:01 PM | Report abuse

Clinton 74
Obama 11
other 15

The face of the election will change tonight

Posted by: really | May 13, 2008 4:53 PM | Report abuse

proud of obama???
Oh come on. He played the race card at least twice a week, feigned offense at anything that resembled the truth and was the most divisive candidate in history. He was a passive-agressive whiney cry baby and took cheap shots while holding back his cocky head claiming to be above those things.
He's nothing but a hollow shell full of lies and BS.
He's not black, he's transparent, the brown color you see is all the BS he's full of.

Posted by: really | May 13, 2008 4:51 PM | Report abuse

Clinton: 56
Obama: 44

Now, how do we get the tee-shirt? I need a 2X.

Thanks.

Posted by: Gloria | May 13, 2008 4:50 PM | Report abuse

for Robin, who claims nobody campaigned in Florida, that's false. obama campaigned in Florida via cable tv in a regional ad. He broke the rules in Florida and should be penalized by allowing Clinton's votes there to count, and NOT counting his because HE broke the rules

Posted by: really | May 13, 2008 4:48 PM | Report abuse

Clinton 62%
Obama 28%

Posted by: Breskur | May 13, 2008 4:40 PM | Report abuse

While Clinton is highly predicted to take West Virginia by a landslide 60 to 24, I suspect Obama may do a little better than expected. We believe Obama really connected with the former veterans and a lot of the undecided voters when they discovered Obama can shoot some pool. So we're predicting another tight race like Indiana with Clinton eventually winning the race.

Regardless of the outcome in West Virginia many of us are really proud of Obama and the way he has conducted his campaign. Koodos to Obama!

Wishing Obama the very best!


Now, please tell us how can we claim our free "Fix T-shirt". Thanks.


Posted by: Gloria | May 13, 2008 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Obama always gets around 90% of the black vote. What does that tell us? It tells us that all the racism, all this time, has been coming from blacks, not whites. He splits the white vote so the whites aren't the racists here, the racists are the 90% of blacks who vote for someone based on the color of his skin.
BLACKS ARE RACIST. It's time to end this black racism, do away with affirmative action, hold them responsible for their own actions and stop pandering to them every time they moan and cry about their ancestors being slaves. 10% of the population (the elitists that also support Obama) owned slaves, not the 90% of hard working white people. The blacks are the racists and Obama is the biggest racist of all.

Posted by: really | May 13, 2008 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Ann, it's "leaving on a jet PLANE", not "play". If you are going to attempt a coy remark, at least know what you're talking about sheeesh.

The margin will be:
Clinton 70
Edwards 17
Obama 13

Edwards is out but the "anti-Hillary" bunch will vote for him anyway. The black vote will go to Obama along with a few select whites, the rest will go to Clinton. Obama will net ZERO pledged delegates from WV which should make their superdelegates rethink what their state wants.

Posted by: sprout | May 13, 2008 4:28 PM | Report abuse

Ann,
It's "leaving on a jet PLANE", not "play". God I hate it when people try to be coy with comments and then make a total fool of themselves. UGG
The margin will be
Clinton 75
Obama 12
Edwards 13
They know Edwards is out but will vote for him anyway as the "anti-Hillary vote". Obama will get the black vote and a few white votes, Clinton will get the rest.
Obama will net ZERO pledged delegates from WV.

Posted by: Lisa | May 13, 2008 4:24 PM | Report abuse

Clinton 67%

Obama 30%

Edwards 3%

Posted by: jr1886 | May 13, 2008 4:24 PM | Report abuse

Chris,

Remember the wise words Lloyd spoke in "Dumb and Dumber": "That John Denver is really full of sh1t!"

West Va:

Hillary: 49%
Adolf Hitler: 35%
Obama: 16%

My man Obama smartly skipped this hell hole of a state.

Posted by: johng1 | May 13, 2008 4:20 PM | Report abuse

Fascinating comments, all gazillion of them.

Just to be a bit iconclastic here, I'll say (not that I believe it'll be that close at all):

Clinton 53%
Obama 45%
Edwards/Other 2%

And I'd like to mention to 'In-breds for Hillary' that your comments are mean, hurtful, and unnecessary, and they serve no purpose other than to reflect poorly on you ("Only in West Virgina can you brother be your father and uncle as well. Go Hillary!!!
We are so proud of you, Americas trash still supports you!!!

Posted by: In-breds for Hillary!! | May 13, 2008 12:29 PM}

Posted by: copperwire9 | May 13, 2008 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Clinton 72%
Obama 27%

Not only is WV more racist than many think (or are willing to believe), it is also a state where many self described Republicans are registered as Democrats.

I lived there from 2001 to 2007.

Posted by: spectre | May 13, 2008 4:12 PM | Report abuse

Clinton 54%
Obama 45.5%
Edwards 0.5%

Headlines:

MSM's Downplay of WV hurts Clinton's margin

Obama beats all expectiations

Posted by: Rational One | May 13, 2008 4:12 PM | Report abuse

Clinton 59
Obama 41

Obama will break 40, Clinton will find yet another new metric on which to continue.
CC are you friends with Chuck Todd? You both seem like the new wave of pundits/pols...
Anyway, enjoy the FIX very much...

Posted by: ang | May 13, 2008 4:11 PM | Report abuse

Clinton - 63.2
Obama - 34.1
Edwards - 2.7

Clinton will continue her racist pandering by offering this as proof that only she can carry white voters in November. As has been the case throughout much of this campaign, she will be wrong.

Posted by: Sparkadelic | May 13, 2008 4:08 PM | Report abuse

HRC 58
BHO 41

Posted by: WOW | May 13, 2008 4:04 PM | Report abuse

Clinton: 60.4
Obama: 39.3

Posted by: jmeserve | May 13, 2008 4:01 PM | Report abuse

bsimon - "Which is another way of saying: Senator Clinton has run her campaign with comparable lack of foresight or contigency planning as President Bush & Secretary Rumsfeld's invasion of Iraq."

If 'ifs' and 'buts' were candy and nuts... But I don't know if we can make that jump. There is always a winning strategy and and losing strategy in campaigns. Obviously the winning strategy is always the better one and hindsight is 20/20. That does not necessarily make the losing strategy a bad one or mean that the people who came up with it incompetant. IF Clinton would have won big on Super Tuesday and before, we would have been questioning Obama's 50 state strategy and saying that he spread himself too thin and that he had no backup plan. Obama's strategy worked better this time against this candidate in this particular field. That might have been foresight. But it might also just as easily been good luck or simply a good guess.

Posted by: Dave! | May 13, 2008 4:00 PM | Report abuse

Clinton 63
Obama 31
Edwards 6

Onion Headline: Hillbillies for Billaries

Posted by: Byrd Land | May 13, 2008 3:50 PM | Report abuse

HRC: 30.0%
Edwards/Other: 34%
BO: 36%

Headline: Iowa Revisited! Pollsters say racists comments brought out sexist feelings-Sex always wins--WV laments candidates "leaving on a jet play--don't know when they'll be back again"

Posted by: Anne | May 13, 2008 3:47 PM | Report abuse

Clinton 59
Obama 40

Headline - Democrats Win in Miss.; W.Va. on Page A12.

Posted by: Ryan | May 13, 2008 3:43 PM | Report abuse

West Virginia

Clinton 63
Obama 34
Edwards 3

Posted by: Marcb | May 13, 2008 3:41 PM | Report abuse

Just a quick note to the remaining Hillary loyalists: West Virginia is a beautiful state, and a state filled with awesome people. But it only offers maybe a net of +12 delegates when she's down by 180. Obama will likely still earn more delegates than Hillary this week, even with wild and wonderful West Virginia.

So in the sense that the voting in West Virginia can't and won't alter the outcome of the Democratic nomination fight, West Virginia doesn't matter. They should have moved their primary to the same day Virginia and DC and Maryland voted. That would have helped Hillary a lot more.

Posted by: novamatt | May 13, 2008 3:28 PM | Report abuse

Clinton 53
Obama 45

Storyline from the Clinton campaign: "Another big state for Hillary!"

Storyline from the Obama campaign: "The race is over next Tuesday"

Posted by: kensax | May 13, 2008 3:14 PM | Report abuse

Who do you predict will win the West Virginia Democratic Presidential Primary?


http://www.youpolls.com/details.asp?pid=2366

.

Posted by: DBlake, Austin TX | May 13, 2008 3:10 PM | Report abuse

Marietta Thompson writes
"[Senator Clinton] has lost my respect and faith in her abillity to plan and budget accordingly. The way she has run her campaing leaves question as to how she would run the country!"

Which is another way of saying: Senator Clinton has run her campaign with comparable lack of foresight or contigency planning as President Bush & Secretary Rumsfeld's invasion of Iraq. They thought they would be met with only token resistence, winning clear & early victories. Bush/Rumsfeld told us 'Iraq will pay for itself' out of oil revenues. Team Clinton thought it would all be over by Feb 5th & spent accordingly. Apparently nobody considered the battle might last longer than a month or two.

They all think they will be vindicated by history.

Posted by: bsimon | May 13, 2008 3:10 PM | Report abuse

Sen. Clinton: 66%
Sen. Obama: 34%

Posted by: ANS | May 13, 2008 3:07 PM | Report abuse

I predict that West Virgina has a surprise in store for the media, Clinton, Obama, and the rest of America...

Obama: 52%
Clinton: 48%


Posted by: emeraldfalcon | May 13, 2008 3:04 PM | Report abuse

Clinton: 57%
Obama: 41%

Posted by: minor incident | May 13, 2008 3:03 PM | Report abuse

Clinton -75%
Obama - 25%

Posted by: Jay Nair | May 13, 2008 3:00 PM | Report abuse

and if she were to pull of a really record win like 70%+ she would still be behind by more than 140--NOT COUNTING Supers.


While WV is interesting and I am in favor of a 50 state plan for November, and I don't want ANYONE left out (yes including FL and MI) can we stop every next state from being "the new battleground", at some point (perhaps now) it is just ridiculous.

Of course it is funny that HRC's argument has gone from "We win big states." to "We win small states with 'hardworking white' populations."

Posted by: chadibuins | May 13, 2008 2:59 PM | Report abuse

The Celtics were relieved this morning to find out they really did win last night despite being outscored 88-77.

Hillary campaign manager let them know that the end score really isn't the factor of deciding who wins.

You see Howard Wolfson paid a visit to the Celtics locker room and informed the team he sent off a protest letter to the NBA, showing how the Celtics really won the game.
Howard Wolfson reasons that since the Celtics actually had a higher free throw percentage in the game, a difference of 76.9% to 66.7%, that Celtics in fact really won the game despite the score at the end of the game.

You gotta love the spinsters in the Hillary camp.

Posted by: mind boggling | May 13, 2008 2:56 PM | Report abuse

and for the record in MS-1

Childers 56%
Davis 43%

Dems 3 for 3 in Rep dominated "special election" districts.

Posted by: chadibuins | May 13, 2008 2:55 PM | Report abuse

Clinton 63%
Obama 35%
Edwards 2%


Hillary gets a few light jabs in while she is falling to the floor. Bill readies the towel.

Posted by: t's pick | May 13, 2008 2:53 PM | Report abuse


Prediction: West Virginia
Clinton: 70%
Obama: 30%

Headline: Those bible clinging,hateful and uneducated West Virginians still cling to Hillary Clinton!!!!!!

It is so revealing how the controlling media pundits have tried to influence this race by continuously attacking and undermining Hillary Clinton and the elitists in this country undermine the will of the hard working americans with deep values who will not vote for Obama. The reality is that Hillary is the strongest candidate that can beat McCain in November and perhaps the people in West Virginia know and are smart enough to recognize the true capabilities of these 2 candidates.

This race should be allowed to be completed for the safety of this party and both Florida and Michigan voters should be heard. Obama does not retain any right to dictate the future of voters in these 2 states and if the DNC is not WISE enough to count the votes of these 2 significant stastes, the result would be a failed election. The fact that this issue has been allowed to last this long reveals bias and incompetence on the part of Howard Dean.

The Obama campaign and pundits have ran a highly RACIST campaign and now we will see another sign by the labelling of the West Virginia people as racists or ignorant as it was done in Pennsylvannia. Was there any comments about the results in North Carolina? It is O.K. to point the finger at white folks, but so many cowards when dealing with black folks!!!

The West Virginia folks can give a lesson to this country because they are about values and quick wit to recognize in Obama a candidate with too little substance!!!!!

Posted by: Hispana | May 13, 2008 2:53 PM | Report abuse

Just to point out that even if HRC wins 60% of WV's delegates, she will still be around 150 behind BHO in pledged delegates, not counting supers.

Posted by: chadibuins | May 13, 2008 2:52 PM | Report abuse

Obama's campaign strategy of taking the black vote and those of the elitist latte liberals and ignoring everything else would be his downfall in the fall. He would not be able to campaign against the Republican machinery and his play victim/race card strategy would fall flat on his face.

So, wake up Democrats and see the TRUTH of this failure before your eyes!!!

Posted by: Hispana | May 13, 2008 2:51 PM | Report abuse

Clinton - 58.2
Obama - 38.7
Edwards/Others - 3.1

Posted by: shouldbewritingmylastlawschoolpapereverbutimdoingthisinstead | May 13, 2008 2:51 PM | Report abuse

It's going to be a boring night for those of us who are political junkies!

Posted by: Verna Caruso | May 13, 2008 2:30 PM

Au contraire, Verna. The more meaningful election is going on in MS-1 today. If Travis Childers (D) wins in a heavily Republican district, as the chatter seems to indicate he might, there will be much wailing and gnashing of teeth on the R side. Bring Your Own Popcorn!

Posted by: novamatt | May 13, 2008 2:50 PM | Report abuse

clinton 61
obama 36

Posted by: jackson | May 13, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Remember, if it's a state that Obama was expected to win, it doesn't count.

Well said.

Posted by: Double standards | May 13, 2008 2:42 PM | Report abuse


Prediction: West Virginia
Clinton: 70%
Obama: 30%

Headline: Those bible clinging,hateful and uneducated West Virginians still cling to Hillary Clinton!!!!!!

It is so revealing how the controlling media pundits have tried to influence this race by continuously attacking and undermining Hillary Clinton and the elitists in this country undermine the will of the hard working americans with deep values who will not vote for Obama. The reality is that Hillary is the strongest candidate that can beat McCain in November and perhaps the people in West Virginia know and are smart enough to recognize the true capabilities of these 2 candidates.

This race should be allowed to be completed for the safety of this party and both Florida and Michigan voters should be heard. Obama does not retain any right to dictate the future of voters in these 2 states and if the DNC is not WISE enough to count the votes of these 2 significant stastes, the result would be a failed election. The fact that this issue has been allowed to last this long reveals bias and incompetence on the part of Howard Dean.

The Obama campaign and pundits have ran a highly RACIST campaign and now we will see another sign by the labelling of the West Virginia people as racists or ignorant as it was done in Pennsylvannia. Was there any comments about the results in North Carolina? It is O.K. to point the finger at white folks, but so many cowards when dealing with black folks!!!

The West Virginia folks can give a lesson to this country because they are about values and quick wit to recognize in Obama a candidate with too little substance!!!!!

Posted by: Hispana | May 13, 2008 2:33 PM | Report abuse

Clinton takes WV 72/28

Posted by: danmarch | May 13, 2008 2:32 PM | Report abuse

Clinton 62
Obama 35

It's going to be a boring night for those of us who are political junkies!

Posted by: Verna Caruso | May 13, 2008 2:30 PM | Report abuse

Bill Clinton Switches to Obama

By Andy Borowitz

Latest Superdelegate Defection for Hillary

http://www.JewishWorldReview.com | In what some Democratic Party insiders are calling a particularly ominous sign for Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign, former president Bill Clinton today became the latest superdelegate to switch from Sen. Clinton to her rival, Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill).


Sources close to the former president said that Mr. Clinton had been mulling such a defection for weeks, as early as the night of the Iowa primary, but that he only decided to make his decision public today.


"The American people want change," Mr. Clinton said at a press conference in New York. "Lord knows I do."


The former president said that "sometimes, at the end of a race, you have to put an old horse down," adding, "I'm not speaking metaphorically."


Mr. Clinton fueled speculation that he was seeking a role in an Obama administration, saying, "I know my way around the Oval Office, and I know how the super-secret double-lock works."


The former president said he would relish a return to the White House, calling his tenure there "good times."


For her part, Sen. Clinton said that the defection of her husband would not deter her from staying in the race, adding, "To my knowledge, he's the only white voter Sen. Obama has."


The New York senator denied that she was playing the race card, arguing, "Every other member of my family is supporting me, and by the way, they're white."

Posted by: the last straw | May 13, 2008 2:28 PM | Report abuse

Clinton 68
Obama 29
Edwards 3

"GOP loses another seat, Clinton parlays white support into big win"

Posted by: Countgeebear | May 13, 2008 2:27 PM | Report abuse

Clinton 63
Obama 28

Posted by: sregis | May 13, 2008 2:19 PM | Report abuse

according to pollster.com Obama was ~ 4% behind in Indiana and ~ 7% ahead in NC. In both cases he doubled his %. He won NC by 14% and only lost IN by 2%. If that were to hold in WV, then conceivably Obama could break 40%.
So I still say:
Clinton 58%
Obama 42%

Obama does better than expected in WV, Clinton vows to keep fighting for votes in KY and PR.

Posted by: chadibuins | May 13, 2008 2:19 PM | Report abuse

"People who are calling West Virginians racist does that mean Ohio, Indiana, Pa and on and on are they racist too? Give me a break! Those of you that say this you are the ingorant dumb hillbillies. They did well up there during the Clinton years so maybe they like Hillary out of loyalty?"

Agreed - from an Obama supporter

Posted by: DDAWD | May 13, 2008 2:14 PM | Report abuse

"There is a convincing argument out there that Obama's pledged delegates are inflated by about 105 due to the formulas and the quirky quacky delegate formulas."

It's a lie. Among the delegates allocated by popular vote, Clinton actually gets more delegates per vote than Obama. (Not much, though. Just an eleven delegate swing)

Posted by: DDAWD | May 13, 2008 2:07 PM | Report abuse

Obama: 36
Clinton: 64

Posted by: tallman | May 13, 2008 2:05 PM | Report abuse

Clinton:69%
Obama: 29%
Edwards: 2%

In Miss. 1st district:
(R) Greg Davis: 54.5
(D) Travis Childers: 44.5%

Headline: Clinton wins big. Davis attacks linking Obama to Childers turns big success. Clinton argues Obama out of touch with white working voters & a drag on national ticket. Clinton urges superdelegates to switch to her side! On to Oregon & Kentucky!

Posted by: reason | May 13, 2008 2:03 PM | Report abuse

Clinton - 56
Obama - 44

Obama outperforms expectations; more supers sign on.

Posted by: fourhourelection@yahoo.com | May 13, 2008 2:01 PM | Report abuse

Clinton 52%
Edwards 27%
Obama 21%


Story line:

Edwards' strong showing, and Hillary's majority vote win, stir angst and concern among the superdelegates, who meet behind the scenes to explore whether a compromise candidate such as Edwards, with Obama as the vice presidential candidate, might not be a better bet for the fall than throwing their support to the polarizing narcissist who has divided and weakened the party.

Posted by: scrivener | May 13, 2008 2:01 PM | Report abuse

Clinton 57.6%
Obama 41.6%

Race tightens a bit in the end, but too little too late for Clinton.

Posted by: windserf | May 13, 2008 2:00 PM | Report abuse

Clinton 64
Obama 34
Edwards 2

Clinton will also win the Nebraska "beauty contest" primary that nobody is paying attention to, and she will include that in her popular-vote count and use it to bolster her case that caucuses are undemocratic.

She will also start downplaying the results of next week's Oregon primary and play up the Kentucky battleground.

Remember, if it's a state that Obama was expected to win, it doesn't count.

Posted by: Eric | May 13, 2008 1:59 PM | Report abuse

W. Va. primary:
Clinton: 69%
Obama: 29%
Edwards: 2%

1st Miss. district:
(R) Greg Davis: 54.6%
(D) Travis Childers: 44.8%
others: 0.6%

Clinton wins big in W. Va. Davis wins in Miss. 1st district! Attacks on linking Childers to Obama worked, Republican Party & McCain prepare for war vs. Obama in November! Clinton makes "white working people" appeal to superdelegates. Clinton argues Obama is democratic loser down national ticket. Clinton urge's superdelegates to switch to her side.

Posted by: reason | May 13, 2008 1:56 PM | Report abuse

Clinton 59.2%
Obama 40.8%

West Virginia votes, no one cares

Posted by: jimmyom | May 13, 2008 1:56 PM | Report abuse

Clinton: 62.3
Obama: 28.6

Posted by: AreF | May 13, 2008 1:53 PM | Report abuse

Clinton 65%
Obama 23%

Clinton picks up delegates, but essentially changes nothing in the race...except to underscore how serious race may be as an issue, spoken or unspoken, in the fall campaign.

Posted by: blert | May 13, 2008 1:50 PM | Report abuse

Clinton 65%
Obama 35%

Clinton stays in and her surrogates spin themselves into a frenzy!

Posted by: Jesse Curry | May 13, 2008 1:48 PM | Report abuse

Clinton 60%
Obama 35%
Edwards 5%


Headline: Edwards may endorse Barack Obama. His hair is leaning towards Hillary.

Posted by: Climate Change We Can Believe In | May 13, 2008 1:44 PM | Report abuse

Clinton 69%
Obama 31%

Posted by: nic.roxylife@gmail.com | May 13, 2008 1:43 PM | Report abuse

Clinton 69%
Obama 31%

Posted by: nic.roxylife@gmail.com | May 13, 2008 1:43 PM | Report abuse

hillary 61 obama 38

Posted by: dave | May 13, 2008 1:41 PM | Report abuse

Clinton 69%
Obama 31%

Posted by: nic.roxylife@gmail.com | May 13, 2008 1:40 PM | Report abuse

Obama 55.5
Clinton 44.5

Posted by: Gordons | May 13, 2008 1:39 PM | Report abuse

Clinton: 63.2
Obama: 36.8

Posted by: jmamusic | May 13, 2008 1:39 PM | Report abuse

Clinton: 71%
Obama:26.5%
Edwards: 2.5
Edwards is on the ballot b/c the filing deadline was 01/26, back when Edwards still had a chance so he registered.

Miss. 1st district election:
Rep. Greg Davis: 53.4%
Dem. Travis Childers:45.5%

Headlines: Clinton wins big in W. Va. as Obama campaigns for general election. Republican party prepares for November vs. Obama, as attacks in Miss. 1st worked well! Clinton argues Obama drags down ticket, urges Democratic Rules committee to add Michigan & Florida while urging superdelegates to switch to her side. On to Kentucky & Oregon!

Posted by: reason | May 13, 2008 1:34 PM | Report abuse

Others are still on the ticket:

Clinton 62
Obama 34
Edwards 3
Other 1

Clinton Beats Obama in Landslide; Losing by Less Than 30 Points, Obama Beats Clinton Again at Expectations Game.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 13, 2008 1:34 PM | Report abuse

If you are paying attention...you will realize that the only reason Hillary is still running, knowing she CANNOT win the race, West Virginia- yes, But not the nomination, IS TO KEEP TAKING IN CAMPAIGN MONEY TO HELP PAY OFF THE 20 MILLION SHE OWES AROUND THE COUNTRY! I like Hillary, would have voted for her if she had won....but she has lost my respect and faith in her abillity to plan and budget accordingly. The way she has run her campaing leaves question as to how she would run the country! More of the same ol political pandering and poor money management.

Posted by: Marietta Thompson | May 13, 2008 1:34 PM | Report abuse

HRC 58%
BHO 42%

Clinton wins in a cake walk, but won't get to eat it too.

Posted by: theaberlin | May 13, 2008 1:33 PM | Report abuse

Hillary 58.5%
Obama 41.4%

"In a glorious finale Hillary brings down the curtain"

Posted by: Peter L. | May 13, 2008 1:32 PM | Report abuse

Clinton 60.7
Obama 38.3
Other 1.0

If there is a sense that W.V. is voting because of race and not because of issues, than I'm curious as to why Hillary Clinton would be so proud to have them as her base. I guess these are the "swing voters" according to Clinton, but I'm not so sure that I'd want anything to do with people who only voted for me because of race.

Posted by: Andrew Kearl | May 13, 2008 1:29 PM | Report abuse

HRC: 57%
BHO: 40%

Clinton gets more votes, but Obama's high turnout makes him the victor.

Posted by: PLS | May 13, 2008 1:28 PM | Report abuse


Clinton 62%
Obama 34%

Clinton wins big in WV. No one outside of Clinton campaign paying attention.

Posted by: glowing_plasma | May 13, 2008 1:27 PM | Report abuse

Clinton: 58
Obama: 42

Posted by: Steve | May 13, 2008 1:27 PM | Report abuse

Clinton: 58
Obama: 42

Posted by: Steve | May 13, 2008 1:26 PM | Report abuse

Clinton: 64
Obama: 36

Story: Clinton would have dropped out last week if the next state weren't one where she lead by 30 points. She claims WV not wanting to vote for a "negro" as momentum, and continues her ego-driven fight

Posted by: corinthian | May 13, 2008 1:23 PM | Report abuse

Clinton 59.7
Obama 39.3
Other 2.0

Posted by: Nick E | May 13, 2008 1:22 PM | Report abuse

Clinton 64%
Obama 34%

Clinton exposes Obama's "white working class" problem.

Posted by: supradeep narayana | May 13, 2008 1:21 PM | Report abuse

Clinton 72%
Obama 28%

Headline - West Virginia speaks and nothing changes.

Posted by: dnbraggs | May 13, 2008 1:21 PM | Report abuse

Clinton 59.7
Obama 39.7
Other 0.6

Posted by: Nick E | May 13, 2008 1:20 PM | Report abuse

Clinton 59.7
Obama 39.7
Other 0.6

Posted by: Nick E | May 13, 2008 1:20 PM | Report abuse

Clinton 64%
Obama 34%

Clinton exposes Obama's "white working class" problem.

Posted by: supradeep narayana | May 13, 2008 1:20 PM | Report abuse

West Virginia:
Clinton 60.4%
Obama 39.2%

In case a tie-breaker is needed:
Childers 52%
Davis 47%

Posted by: Guayzimi | May 13, 2008 1:17 PM | Report abuse

W.Va.
Clinton: 57%
Obama: 40%

Larger than expected Obama turnout. Clinton gets more votes, but Obama is the victor.

Posted by: PLS | May 13, 2008 1:17 PM | Report abuse

Clinton: 67%
Obama: 33%

Clinton's big WV victory has no effect yet on Obama's status as presumptive nominee.... but what if KY and PR follow suit?

Posted by: acasilaco | May 13, 2008 1:16 PM | Report abuse

Clinton 58
Obama 40
Other 2

Posted by: donttreadonme | May 13, 2008 1:15 PM | Report abuse

Why are we bothering to predict the outcome of this primary when Senator Obama is already the nominee? Just ask Rasmusen.

Posted by: John in Syracuse | May 13, 2008 1:14 PM | Report abuse

WV Results:
Clinton: 66%
Obama: 33%
Edwards: 1%

Headline: "Clinton Wins Big: Cites Re-Finding Voice in Latently Racist and Patently Divisive Overtones"

Posted by: Goombay | May 13, 2008 1:14 PM | Report abuse

HRC 61%
BO 38%
other 1%
get the champagne ready for May 20th!!!

Posted by: dezbaby | May 13, 2008 1:12 PM | Report abuse

Clinton - 61
Obama - 38
Other - 1

Headline: Clinton wins easily but Obama picks up more superdelegates.

Posted by: Jeff | May 13, 2008 1:11 PM | Report abuse

Clinton: 66%
Obama: 32.5%

"Clinton: Size Matters"

Posted by: Greg A | May 13, 2008 1:05 PM | Report abuse

Clinton - 57%
Obama - 43%

Headline: Primary closer than expected as many Clinton voters except the inevitable and stay home, Obama supporters exuberant as always

Posted by: Patrick | May 13, 2008 1:03 PM | Report abuse

Clinton: 74.5
Obama: 23
Other (Edwards?): 2.5

Posted by: Sam Rosh | May 13, 2008 1:03 PM | Report abuse

To those of you who believe the Florida and Michigan votes should count, let me remind you that at the time those two states voted (before February 5), the candidates -- which included many more than Clinton and Obama -- had been told (and had agreed to) the fact that the votes from those states would not count.

No one campaigned in either state.

The argument now, that we accept the results of those votes -- as being as valid as votes from other primaries -- is a distortion of what really happened, and the candidates understanding of the situation at that time.

Had the candidates campaigned in Florida and Michigan, I'd agree with you that the votes should count, even if the DNC decides otherwise. But the candidates didn't campaign, which forced Florida and Michigan voters to cast their vote with very little information about who was running. All they really had to go on was name recognition, which -- thanks to her husband -- gave Hillary the edge.

As subsequent primaries demonstrated, particularly those on Super Tuesday (February 5), when voters got to know Obama, the dynamics changed. Obama had become a viable candidate in the states he'd campaigned in.

The only way to count Florida and Michigan is to allow Obama to campaign there. Counting votes based on whether or not his name was on the ballot completely distorts the reality and seems to serve only those who want Hillary to win, no matter what it takes.

The less of that kind of reasoning, the better we'll be as a country. Honest.

Posted by: Robin S. | May 13, 2008 1:03 PM | Report abuse

37th&OStreet...Michigan and Florida had their opportunity to vote but the local government and political parties blew it for the people. Michigan and Florida will be seated at the convention, but not to give Hillary any clear advantage to the nomination. 2025 is the hard total delegate number. Adding Michigan and/or Florida to that number will not be based on the voting done in January. You can count on it.

Even as "intelligent" as Hillary claims to be, she knows that she is so far mathematically behind in pledged delegates and popular vote she will not win. Even the great Hillary supporter and surrogate JAMES CARVILLE admitted to this. Hillary is still in the race because of her campaign debt which is growing every day by $235,000, needs to be paid off and she currently has ~$20 million in campaign debt!

Posted by: AJ | May 13, 2008 1:02 PM | Report abuse

Clinton 65
Obama 33

Posted by: Charles C | May 13, 2008 1:02 PM | Report abuse

Clinton 62
Obama 38

Storyline: If Hillary wins a contest that has no effect on the nomination outcome does anyone still care?

Posted by: JNoel002 | May 13, 2008 1:02 PM | Report abuse

Clinton 65.7
Obama 32.9
Edwards 1.3
Other 0.1

Posted by: MDWatchdog | May 13, 2008 12:58 PM | Report abuse

Clinton 64
Obama 35

Storyline: "David Defeats.....a Slightly Larger David"

Posted by: The Angry One | May 13, 2008 12:58 PM | Report abuse

HRC 51
BO 47

Posted by: JeffBeck | May 13, 2008 12:58 PM | Report abuse

Clinton 65.7
Obama 32.9
Edwards 1.3
Other 0.1

Posted by: MDWatchdog | May 13, 2008 12:57 PM | Report abuse

Clinton- 61%
Obama- 39%

Pundits say, "Big, but expected, win gives Hillary the chance to end on a high note and she should take it."

Posted by: jdel | May 13, 2008 12:54 PM | Report abuse

The most important metric is the number of pledged delegates Hillary ends up with. Playing with percentages like 60% Hillary to 40% Obama is less meaningful. Hillary will net 4 to 8 more pledged delegates than Obama if she wins by 20 to 30pts over Obama and maybe 50,000 to 80,000 more popular vote to Hillary than Obama.

Bottom line. Obama has already picked up 4 to 8 superdelegates more than Hillary since May 6th. After today, Hillary's campaign rhetoric about winning the nomination goes way down with contests like Kentucky and Oregon upcoming.

Posted by: AJ | May 13, 2008 12:52 PM | Report abuse

Clinton 58
Obama 42

Posted by: katm5225 | May 13, 2008 12:52 PM | Report abuse

Clinton - 66.6
Obama - 33.1

Storyline (taken from the WaPo cue) - Racism abounds! MSM states it is the only explanation for the "funny feeling" white people have about Obama and why on earth anyone would continue to vote for Hillary since she has already lost, is destroying the party, is the worst thing since Nixon, will end civilization as we know it, etc. No mention that it could be Obama is one of the most liberal, inexperienced and (in a lot of peoples mind) misguided candidates to ever be on the verge of the nomination. Or that his itinerary has not really included the Mountain state. Or Rev. Wright, et al... Or that there are more than a few hunters clinging to their guns in WV.

Posted by: Dave! | May 13, 2008 12:50 PM | Report abuse

Clinton: 60
Obama: 37
Other: 3

Story line: It's a nice win for Clinton to help ease her eventual exit. More importantly, by failing to win by a more significant margin, she misses an opportunity to gain a larger delegate split.

Posted by: mschmidt73 | May 13, 2008 12:42 PM | Report abuse

Clinton 54
Obama 45

Posted by: jjemcm | May 13, 2008 12:39 PM | Report abuse

Clinton 66.4%
Obama 32.2%

Posted by: Patrick NYC | May 13, 2008 12:37 PM | Report abuse

Clinton 69
Obama 30
Other 1

Posted by: KLB | May 13, 2008 12:36 PM | Report abuse

Better yet, how many seconds after the polls close will CNN predict Hillary as the winner?

I am going for instantaneously.

Posted by: svreaderjr | May 13, 2008 12:36 PM | Report abuse

Clinton: 65
Obama: 32

Posted by: Bill J | May 13, 2008 12:35 PM | Report abuse

Hillary 63%
Obama 36%
other 1%

Posted by: svreaderjr | May 13, 2008 12:34 PM | Report abuse

Clinton 63%
Obama 33%
Other 4%

Posted by: billychunge | May 13, 2008 12:32 PM | Report abuse

Clinton 56%
Obama 43%

Posted by: Anonymous | May 13, 2008 12:31 PM | Report abuse

Only in West Virgina can you brother be your father and uncle as well. Go Hillary!!!
We are so proud of you, Americas trash still supports you!!!

Posted by: In-breds for Hillary!! | May 13, 2008 12:29 PM | Report abuse

Clinton: 67
Obama: 32

Posted by: rixxk | May 13, 2008 12:27 PM | Report abuse

Clinton: 69%
Obama: 30%

Headline: Clinton claims title: "one big comeback kid"
Democrats question Obama's choice not to even campaign in WV, has he given up on working-class white voters already?

Posted by: Neal | May 13, 2008 12:26 PM | Report abuse

Okay, why not?

Clinton 57
Obama 43

Posted by: Larry L | May 13, 2008 12:23 PM | Report abuse

Clinton 65.4
Obama 34.1

Just another stop on the long slog to the convention. The media continues to complain they are required to keep talking about the campaign. This enables them to talk about the campaign without sounding like they are interested.

Posted by: Paul Ryberg | May 13, 2008 12:15 PM | Report abuse

Clinton 88 Obama 12

West Virginians realize they matter and come out in droves for HRC.

People realize that Obama is about as interesting and different as Deval Patrick.

War wages on....

Posted by: mattburden | May 13, 2008 12:11 PM | Report abuse

Clinton 65, Obama 35.

Headline: Clinton wins as expected in West Virginia, declares West Virginia "a crucial battleground state", saying "the road to the White House leads through West Virginia".

For the record, WV has exactly half of the number of electoral votes as MD, a state where Clinton had her butt handed to her. MD is evidently a state that does not matter in the general, where WV, with its five big electoral votes, is critical...

Posted by: ASinMoCo | May 13, 2008 12:09 PM | Report abuse

Clinton 67.5
Obama 28

Posted by: t. long | May 13, 2008 12:08 PM | Report abuse

Clinton 57
Obama 41

Obama surprises Clinton by robbing her of blowout after single campaign stop in WV.

Posted by: Patricia in ID | May 13, 2008 12:08 PM | Report abuse

HRC - 57
O - 43

Posted by: Huh | May 13, 2008 12:07 PM | Report abuse

Hillary 65
Obama 35

For the first time the media doesn't pretend the most recent election is the only one that matters, although Hillary still tries to spin that.

Posted by: aleks | May 13, 2008 12:06 PM | Report abuse

37th&O: At 10:44 you chided other posters for using the Democratic Party's official number of 2,025.

I'm sure that most of The Fix posters will adjust accordingly when the DNC acts. It's not like either Sen. Clinton or Sen. Obama will get all of the Twilight Zone delegates. Both will get some.

I prefer not to try to shift the goal line, but wait for it to officially happen.

Posted by: Nor'Easter | May 13, 2008 12:05 PM | Report abuse

Clinton: 66.6
Obama: 34.4

It's time for Clinton to take those country roads home to NY...this race is over

Posted by: Mr. Wallace | May 13, 2008 12:04 PM | Report abuse

Actually, there are a million reasons you can give besides race not to vote for Obama, but to say he has less experience than Hillary, well that's just thinly disguised racism. Look at the state your coming from.

Posted by: Nate | May 13, 2008 12:03 PM | Report abuse

All my Michigan & Florida posts:

"White people in MI and FL should have their votes counted. Racist banter is the only clear path to Hillary Clinton's nomination."

Posted by: 37th&OStreet Translator | May 13, 2008 12:02 PM | Report abuse

37th and O (Georgetown address - not too elite or are you paving it?)
Spare me your dire warnings - your feigned populist message about Michigan is laughable. They will seat both delegations, but it will not be by the deluded standards of the Clinton campaign. Whatever happens, she will not be able to use that last gasp as a reason to give her the nomination. And anytime you want to run off and support the dark side, please do.Just be prepared to dig deep in your pockets for McCain. Smear campaigns with little substance cost money...

Posted by: citizen of planet earth - come down and visit some time, it's nice | May 13, 2008 12:00 PM | Report abuse

West Virginia

Obama 33
Clinton 61

Concur with asssessments by 37th&O and Arlee1

Posted by: boulderquince | May 13, 2008 12:00 PM | Report abuse

clinton 66
obama 34

But I bet obama will have enough superdelegates lined up to endorse tomorrow to cancel out clinton's net gain in delegates....

Posted by: markbell | May 13, 2008 11:57 AM | Report abuse

Clinton- 66%
Obama- 34%

Posted by: MDem | May 13, 2008 11:55 AM | Report abuse

Clinton: 59.3
Obama: 38.8

"Clinton suffers from low turnout. Have her supporters given up on her?"

Posted by: Nick B. | May 13, 2008 11:54 AM | Report abuse

59 Clinton
41 Obama

Clinton's last gasp, a valedictory; Obama is gracious.

Posted by: Soonerthought | May 13, 2008 11:54 AM | Report abuse

Clinton: 54.8%
Obama: 43.5%
Edwards: 1.7%

Posted by: kbn22 | May 13, 2008 11:53 AM | Report abuse

Clinton 59
Obama 40

Posted by: jcscott | May 13, 2008 11:52 AM | Report abuse

To the poster at 11:42 who is probably at Obama headquarters at Michigan & Lake

What is the name of the street outside? What are you going to do move the street and the Lake to Canada ???

Michigan is part of this country, their votes count.

You are sending the democratic party on a path to disaster in this fall election - what a complete joke.


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Posted by: 37th&OStreet | May 13, 2008 11:51 AM | Report abuse

I'm tired of people assuming because I don't support first seriously viable African American for the presidency that I'm racist. I'm not supporting Obama because he's Black . . . the reason I'm not supporting him is because he's Green (as in wet behind the ears).

Clinton will take my state 61% to Obama's 39%.

Posted by: WV-DC | May 13, 2008 11:49 AM | Report abuse

Clinton 69.5
Obama 30.5

Obama continues to add to super delegate lead.

Posted by: John Bessey | May 13, 2008 11:49 AM | Report abuse

Clinton 58
Obama 41
Rest 1

CC, loved the Denver song. Undoubtedly he would have been in Obama's camp, he dedicated himself to bringing people together.

Storyline: Hillary proves the sleazy politics of division still works in a place where many children were left behind.

http://whathappenedtomycountry.blogspot.com

Posted by: Truth Hunter | May 13, 2008 11:48 AM | Report abuse

Penny


That is EXACTLY what they have been doing - some post-racial campaign - all they do is call people racist - and run whisper campaigns in the black community about how "offended" they are about some comment or another.

For the campaign which was supposed to transcend race, the Obama campaign has been the MOST RACIAL CAMPAIGN IN THE HISTORY OF THE COUNTRY.

The Republicans are not going to be fooled - they are going to be - RIGHT BACK AT YOU - you might think your are hot shots now, good luck later, this attitude is going to land you in an electoral disaster.


THAT is the reason the Superdelegates are holding back - your have made a JOKE out of your own campaign message with your own actions and it is coming out !!!!


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Posted by: 37th&OStreet | May 13, 2008 11:48 AM | Report abuse

Clinton: 59.7
Obama:38.3

Posted by: charles | May 13, 2008 11:43 AM | Report abuse

Response to Nor'Easter


That number will be changed on May 31 when the DNC Rules Committee meets - it will go up to 2135 or 2208 DELEGATES NEEDED FOR THE NOMINATION.


You really only have the Obama campaign and the other Obama people to blame for deceiving you.

They should have been telling you ALL ALONG that the number could go up - and THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN LISTING BOTH NUMBERS THE WHOLE TIME JUST LIKE THEY HAVE BEEN RUNNING DIFFERENT POPULAR VOTE TOTALS.

There are 50 states in the country, not 48 - if Obama had his flag pin on, he could check the number of stars to make sure for himself.


Obamaniacs DREAM ON.

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Posted by: 37th&OStreet | May 13, 2008 11:43 AM | Report abuse


To the poster at who posted at 11:10 and who is probably at Obama headquarters at Michigan & Lake:


I stand by my comments, Obama is going to hurt the democratic candidates really badly in close elections around the country you may choose to remain blind to this, however filling a gym with college kids is not going to solve that problem.

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Posted by: 37th&OStreet | May 13, 2008 11:24 AM
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And to the poster who is probably in the basement of the science building, I say PFFFFFFFFFT! You are being arrogant and blind. You can stand by your comments all you want, especially since you do not choose to back them up with facts. The GOP is on the ropes with money and registration. The Democratic primary with all its faults has fattened DNC coffers, put a lot of long held republican seats up for play, and brought in a lot of new registrations. Not bad for a guy in a gym full of "kids", as you put it.

It will not be easy, but I don't think that McSame can stand in a room and repeat "POW" over and over and think that will do it.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 13, 2008 11:42 AM | Report abuse

Clinton 55
Obama 40

Storyline: WV doesn't matter.

Posted by: bsimon | May 13, 2008 11:40 AM | Report abuse

People who are calling West Virginians racist does that mean Ohio, Indiana, Pa and on and on are they racist too? Give me a break! Those of you that say this you are the ingorant dumb hillbillies. They did well up there during the Clinton years so maybe they like Hillary out of loyalty?

Posted by: Penny | May 13, 2008 11:39 AM | Report abuse

Clinton: 61%

Obama: 39%

Posted by: Alex Rossdeutsch | May 13, 2008 11:39 AM | Report abuse

Clinton 65.5%
Obama 34.5%

Headline on News: And lastly in the news tonight, Hillary Clinton won the small state of West Virginia, earning a handful of delegates.

Posted by: gerard | May 13, 2008 11:38 AM | Report abuse

clinton - 65
obama - 31

Posted by: jnh118 | May 13, 2008 11:38 AM | Report abuse

HRC - 69
BO - 31

Hillary's WV blowout does nothing to stem Obama tide, superdelegate trickle

Posted by: Jeremy Sherer | May 13, 2008 11:38 AM | Report abuse

Clinton - 67.4%
Obama - 31.6%
Other - 1%

Headlines - Hillary quits the race, but goes out on top. Claims she is trying to save the party.

Posted by: IowaShouldBeFirst | May 13, 2008 11:37 AM | Report abuse

Response to AJ


People living in Florida and Michigan are American citizens


The DNC does not have the authority or right to take away their voting rights because THEY can not agree on the schedule.

The DNC has NO RIGHT when to tell a state when to hold their primary.

The DNC Committees which gave you these impressions EXCEEDED THEIR AUTHORITY.

Its just a bunch of Washington insiders messing with your head.

Let me tell you this: Florida and Michigan are still part of the country, and they are very very important.

Thank you, Goodbye Obamaaniacs.


Obama is making a mistake ignoring the rest of the rest.

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Posted by: 37th&OStreet | May 13, 2008 11:35 AM | Report abuse

Obama: 39.5
Clinton: 60.5

Said Clinton, a Brinksman
of sometime-southern diction:
'i got this %&^$%% pinioned,
thank y'all, Wes' Verginya'
but she didn't put a dint in,
reported network statisticians
as the superdel's transitioned
all increasingly insistent
she administer the strychnine
to a campaign quickly sinking,
with each additional fiction,
into the grave prepared by Nixon.


Posted by: JoshQW | May 13, 2008 11:35 AM | Report abuse

Clinton: 71
Obama: 29

"'Country Roads' may yet lead Hillary to the White House."

Posted by: TNSlim | May 13, 2008 11:33 AM | Report abuse

clinton 56
obama 43

Posted by: woodey | May 13, 2008 11:32 AM | Report abuse

37th&O on your 10:44 AM post:

At the bottom of the current Delegate Allocation spreadsheet on the DNC website - "Number of delegates needed for nomination (rounded) = 2,025"

http://www.democrats.org/page/-/pdf/20070607_DistrictAllocationChart.pdf

Posted by: Nor'Easter | May 13, 2008 11:32 AM | Report abuse

Clinton: 67
Obama: 32

Clinton raises rabble
Chris Matthews babble
Obama gives a yawn
The Fix pittsnogles on

Posted by: bsencore | May 13, 2008 11:32 AM | Report abuse

Clinton - 61
Obama - 39

Storyline - If a tree falls in a WV forrest and no one hears it, did it even make a noise?

Posted by: Davehomuth | May 13, 2008 11:30 AM | Report abuse

Obama 41.5%
Clinton 57.9%
other - the rest

Headline: as expected but not as huge a margin as forecast. Clinton claims to be the best (racist) candidate to win border states since George Wallace.

Posted by: David | May 13, 2008 11:30 AM | Report abuse

AJ

IN case you are not aware, the DNC Rules Committee is going to meet on May 31 and raise the delegates needed to win


We are not sure exactly what the number will be.


Maybe somewhere between 2135 and 2208 - so you can hold your horses the Hillary train is coming through !!!!!


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Posted by: 37th&OStreet | May 13, 2008 11:30 AM | Report abuse

Obama: 34.2
Clinton: 66.4

Clinton hopes win leads to influx of $$.

Posted by: jhanson | May 13, 2008 11:29 AM | Report abuse

Clinton...64
Obama...36

Storyline... Obama downplays results as Clinton wins another primary. Kentucky and Oregon, Super Tuesday IV?

Posted by: AnthonyJBrady | May 13, 2008 11:29 AM | Report abuse

Clinton...64
Obama...36

Storyline... Obama downplays results as Clinton wins another primary. Kentucky and Oregon, Super Tuesday IV?

Posted by: AnthonyJBrady | May 13, 2008 11:29 AM | Report abuse

Obama 33
Clinton 67

Story: Obama focuses on general election as Clinton claims overwhelming support from racist hillbillies

Posted by: yellowdogjz | May 13, 2008 11:25 AM | Report abuse

To the poster at who posted at 11:10 and who is probably at Obama headquarters at Michigan & Lake:


I stand by my comments, Obama is going to hurt the democratic candidates really badly in close elections around the country you may choose to remain blind to this, however filling a gym with college kids is not going to solve that problem.

.

Posted by: 37th&OStreet | May 13, 2008 11:24 AM | Report abuse

Clinton: 64%
Obama: 34%

Storyline: Collective yawn from the talking heads

Posted by: paulalgire | May 13, 2008 11:23 AM | Report abuse

HRC: 64%
BHO: 34%
Other: 2%

Posted by: David | May 13, 2008 11:22 AM | Report abuse

Clinton 53%
Obama 32%
(other) 15%

Posted by: Tom J | May 13, 2008 11:22 AM | Report abuse

HRC 58
BO 41

Posted by: JS | May 13, 2008 11:22 AM | Report abuse

Hillary is rolling out the gas tax nonsense again with the West Virginians. The primaries are supposed to be a search for a candidate; instead Hillary seems bent on seeking out an audience dumb and ignorant enough to fall for her pandering. Hopefully, the good mountain folk will show her that she is mistaken if she thinks her foul and vile racist campaign and its supporters will hold sway.

Posted by: bondjedi | May 13, 2008 11:21 AM | Report abuse

WV results:

Clinton (68)
Obama (31)

Posted by: JakeD | May 13, 2008 11:19 AM | Report abuse

Clinton: 69%
Obama: 31%

Storyline: Too little, too late; Clinton gets a Pyrrhic victory to little fanfare

Posted by: jumpin_bob | May 13, 2008 11:17 AM | Report abuse

West Virginia

66.8 Clinton
31.2 Obama

Posted by: Ryan | May 13, 2008 11:16 AM | Report abuse


Ron Paul's forces quietly plot GOP convention revolt against McCain
Virtually all the nation's political attention in recent weeks has focused on the compelling state-by-state presidential nomination struggle between two Democrats and the potential for party-splitting strife over there.

But in the meantime, quietly, largely under the radar of most people, the forces of Rep. Ron Paul have been organizing across the country to stage an embarrassing public revolt against Sen. John McCain when Republicans gather for their national convention in Minnesota at the beginning of September.

Posted by: zap | May 13, 2008 11:15 AM | Report abuse

Clinton: 67.4%
Obama: 32.6%

Posted by: Zach V | May 13, 2008 11:13 AM | Report abuse

Clinton 64.1%
Obama 33.4%

Storyline: what does this mean to Obama in the general election? Clinton barely mentioned, except how it relates to her drop-out date.

Posted by: TM Moore | May 13, 2008 11:13 AM | Report abuse

Clinton: 69
Obama: 28
Other: 3

Posted by: nick | May 13, 2008 11:11 AM | Report abuse

James Carville is now calling Obama the likely winner:

Speaking to students at Furman University in Greenville, South Carolina, Carville argued Clinton should stay in through the final nominating contest in early June, but said the Democratic tide appears to be moving in Obama's direction.
"I still hear some dogs barking," Carville said, according to The State newspaper. "I'm for Senator Clinton, but I think the great likelihood is that Obama will be the nominee."

"As soon as I determine when that is, I'll send him a check," he added.

Carville has been, and continues to be, one of Clinton's staunchest supporters. Until now, he has not wavered. It's great that, now that he has, he follows it up by telling us he'll be right there with Obama when the nominating process is complete.

Posted by: zap | May 13, 2008 11:10 AM | Report abuse

If you still want Obama under those circumstances, go for it.


However the Republicans are going to have a field day.

Posted by: 37th&OStreet | May 13, 2008 10:40 AM

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For someone so confident about the turnout, you waste a lot time arguing your point. We heard the same arguments about Indiana and NC and we were all standing around in disbelief. The math does not support your argument.

If the republicans opening salvos are any indication, McCain better start honing his economic message better. He has had his last adoring cookout with reporters.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 13, 2008 11:10 AM | Report abuse

West Virginia
Clinton: 65
Obama: 35

Storyline:
Obama handily exceeds "expected" 20 point (vs. Clinton 80 point) showing predicted by Hillary supporters, basks in new-found connection with West Virginia voters. Decides to continue pool-shooting photo ops on eve of remaining contests.

Clinton top aides reported to be furious at Obama "eleventh-hour" sneak attack rally which included openly patriotic statements, specific plans for aid to veterans, Senator Jay Rockefeller, high-ranking former military officers, numerous other veterans, and a flag lapel pin. "I'm all for a tough fight, but this positive campaigning can go too far," comments one off the record. "Not to mention focusing on the voters' needs instead of the technical process of delegate allocation. How much more of this is Senator Clinton expected to take?"

Posted by: Fairfax Voter | May 13, 2008 11:09 AM | Report abuse

Clinton 64
Obama 36

Terry McCaulagh attempts to move the goal posts to 2125 delegates in hopes that it will allow time for "something big to happen" to Barack. Clinton trudges on, requiring climbing ropes and a belayer due to the increase in slope. The race ends June 6th.

Posted by: djeterpt1 | May 13, 2008 11:09 AM | Report abuse

Hillary - 51.5%
Barack - 45.5%
Other - 3%

Posted by: jj | May 13, 2008 11:07 AM | Report abuse

37th&OStreet...the total delegate number in the Democratic party to reach is 2025! Not 2208?!?! All the candidates and members of the DNC agreed that 2025 is the magic number to reach.

Hillary supporters need to stop repeating the Hillary campaign weak talking points (if not down right lies) on how to win the nomination and general election. For instance, the following talking points are weak:

1) 2208 Total Delegates is needed! FALSE: The above number includes Michigan and Florida. Obama's name was not on the ballot so Michigan can't count. Even though Florida also broke the DNC rules, Obama's name was on the ballot and Florida can argue more forcefully about seating their delegates in some fashion.

2) Hillary wins the popular vote!
FALSE: Here again the Hillary camp includes Michigan and Florida. Puerto Rico changed from a caucus to a primary within the last 3 months to try to help Hillary, but Puerto Rico doesn't vote in the general election!


Posted by: AJ | May 13, 2008 11:06 AM | Report abuse

Clinton 59
Obama 37
Edwards 4

The talk in the media will be about how race affected the vote, and what this means for the general election.
Also, the media will say the win doesn't matter, and Obama will still become the nominee.

Posted by: BenWood | May 13, 2008 11:06 AM | Report abuse

clinton:63
obama:37

i think clinton will use tonights big victory to rake in the money(if she can even) and this loss highlights obamas weakness with white voters without a college education. and by next tuesday or wednesday she will drop out and obama will seat the MI FL delegates.

Posted by: laceykk23 | May 13, 2008 10:58 AM | Report abuse

Chris: Obama is not the PRESUMPTIVE NOMINEE. He does not have enough pledged delegates to claim that. He will not have enough after June 3. The Super Delgates can not make him the PRESUMPTIVE NOMINEE, because they can't vote until Aug. 25 at the Convention. They can all change their minds between now and the Aug. vote. You can not call him the PRESUMPTIVE NOMINEE.

McCain is the PRESUMPTIVE NOMINEE because he has enough pledged delegates to put him over the top at this point, that is the definition of "presumptive nominee"

W. VA
Hillary 74
Obama 26

Posted by: JonnyB | May 13, 2008 10:57 AM | Report abuse

Clinton 66.5%
Obama 33.5%

Clinton wins WVA - Obama wins more superdelegates.

MSNBC will spend 5 hours and 45 minutes explaining why Obama cannot lose and questioning why Clinton stays in the race; 15 minutes on HRC WVA vote.
CNN will spend 15 more minutes than MSNBC on HRC WVA vote.

Posted by: bj | May 13, 2008 10:56 AM | Report abuse


Clinton: 57.8%
Obama: 42.2%

Posted by: Mike Jamieson | May 13, 2008 10:55 AM | Report abuse

Hillary is in $20 million of debt and could easily grow to $25 million by June 4th.

Anyone who is still donating to Hillary's campaign is either "rich" or "dumb". The probability of Hillary getting to 2025 delegates before Obama (and therefore winning the nomination) is at 5%.

If someone ask you to invest $100 in a project with a 95% chance that you would lose all of your money, would you invest your $100?!?!

Posted by: AJ | May 13, 2008 10:53 AM | Report abuse

Clinton 59%
Obama 41%

Headline: Clinton wins, superdelegates yawn.

Posted by: cspencef | May 13, 2008 10:51 AM | Report abuse

Clinton: 57
Obama: 43

Posted by: mike k | May 13, 2008 10:51 AM | Report abuse

HRC 58% ;
BO 42%.

Hillary Clinton wins by not that large a margin. Clinton: "The people of West Virginia just weren't as racist as we had hoped."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHh3ykPQEl4

Posted by: Fritz | May 13, 2008 10:51 AM | Report abuse

Two best things?

Please Tudor's Biscuit World takes spots one and two.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tudor's_Biscuit_World

Posted by: Disagree | May 13, 2008 10:51 AM | Report abuse

Clinton 61%
Obama 39%

West Virginians, feeling shunned by D frontrunner, audaciously reject Obama.

Posted by: proudtobeGOP | May 13, 2008 10:45 AM | Report abuse

Clinton 68
Obama 29

Clinton's huge margin doesn't stop the tide of superdelegates that keep flowing to Obama.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 13, 2008 10:44 AM | Report abuse

All you Obamaniacs should realize that a majority is 2208.

Sorry.


The democrats can't kick Florida and Michigan out of the country.


Obama needs to get many more than 2,025.

If I was Hillary, under these circumstances, I would keep on going - everyone can say she doesn't have a chance, however what happens if she shows up in Denver with the majority of the delegates including Florida and Michigan???

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Posted by: 37th&OStreet | May 13, 2008 10:44 AM | Report abuse

Headline will read: Clinton Wins Big in W. Va causes doubt in the minds of the undeclared superdelegates in their perceived support for Barack Obama.

Clinton: 60%
Obama: 33%

Posted by: George Lawal | May 13, 2008 10:43 AM | Report abuse

Yea the Donald Payne switched - that is true - however it could work both ways.


A superdelegate starts to look at the polls for November.

Why should democrats in close races lose because Obama is on the top of the ticket???


It makes no sense.

Obama doesn't have this good lead - Obama has the slimmest lead in the history - he has the kind of lead that in the past would have led to additional ballots at the Convention and other candidates coming in.

Obama barely has the popular vote - in fact it looks like Obama is going to LOSE the popular vote.

If you still want Obama under those circumstances, go for it.

However the Republicans are going to have a field day.

Posted by: 37th&OStreet | May 13, 2008 10:40 AM | Report abuse

Clinton 61%, Obama 39%; low turnout from everywhere except Morgantown keeps Obama in the same planet; Hillary nets all of 7 mighty delegates, and declares total victory (even as more superdelegates-- tights, capes and all-- bolt for Obama today).

Posted by: Seth | May 13, 2008 10:40 AM | Report abuse

HC 71
BO 29

Obama announces that he doesn't need to win W Va, Ohio, Pa or Fla in Nov. and that he will rely on the voters of Utah and Georgia to propel him to victory.

Obama roundly booed and his cynical speech disrupted at protests in Tallahassee and throuhout Fla today as he explains why their 2 million votes should not be counted in Denver.

Posted by: Leichtman | May 13, 2008 9:12 AM

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BWAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAA....and then you woke up...what is that scent you are wearing...Calvin Klein's "Bitter" or "Sore loser"? Either one is you.

Posted by: I had a beautiful dream last night... | May 13, 2008 10:37 AM | Report abuse

Clinton: 68%
Obama: 30%
Other: 2%

Blowout in WVA gives Clinton ammunition to continue on. However, debt is increasing fast and online contributions at a standstill. Question is how many more millions of their personal fortune will the Clintons be willing to spend? And what do they want?

Posted by: BillBolducinMaine | May 13, 2008 10:36 AM | Report abuse

Clinton 67.3%
Obama 32.7%

(is "other" on the ballot?)

Story tomorrow: "Clinton's massive win propels her back in the race". Page views, circulation, and ratings skyrocket once more.

Posted by: P Diddy | May 13, 2008 10:34 AM | Report abuse

Clinton 67%
Obama 33%
John Denver 0%

Drivin' down the road, she gets a feeling that she should've been home yesterday.

Posted by: Greenhous Gas | May 13, 2008 10:34 AM | Report abuse

PLUS the Superdelegates can CHANGE THEIR MINDS AT ANY TIME.

HHMMM

All you people on this board who think that Al Gore should jump in - he has the next 3 weeks to do that - he should too - Al Gore could block both of them from gaining a majority - and then some rationality could prevail.

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Posted by: 37th&OStreet | May 13
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You are right - they can change their mind - one did...for Obama.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 13, 2008 10:33 AM | Report abuse

Clinton - 61.3
Obama - 37.4

Posted by: cferry3124@aol.com | May 13, 2008 10:31 AM | Report abuse

Clinton: 56

Obama: 44

Cackles and thumbs up signs from Clinton - I turn on "Hell's Kitchen"

Posted by: LABC | May 13, 2008 10:31 AM | Report abuse

HRC 64%√
BHO 36%

Obama 'Begins' Michigan Campaign!

Posted by: Nor'Easter | May 13, 2008 10:28 AM | Report abuse

Clinton 59%
Obama 41%

All of the "it's over" talk suppresses the Hillary vote or sends it to Barack, making the election closer than the polls.

Posted by: Patrick | May 13, 2008 10:28 AM | Report abuse

Obama 38
Hillary 62

Posted by: Cap Pritchett | May 13, 2008 10:25 AM | Report abuse

HRC 63.7%
BHO 36.3%

Storyline: Will HRC's big win make the front page of WaPo, NYT?

Posted by: mnteng | May 13, 2008 10:25 AM | Report abuse

HRC 57
BHO 40
Edw (et alia) 3

Hillary continues to claim "Obama can't win"
MSM reports "Whites won't vote for Obama"
Blogosphere insists that "It's only appalachia"
Obama acknowledges Hillary's win - urges DNC to allow Florida's vote to count.
Superdeligates give Obama a big enough boost so that Oregon puts him over the top

Posted by: Matt | May 13, 2008 10:25 AM | Report abuse

Clinton 64
Obama 35

Story: Wait for Clinton Exit Overshadows W. VA win

Byline: Clitnon Wins W. VA--If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?

Posted by: Kman23 | May 13, 2008 10:24 AM | Report abuse

Obama 41
Hillary 56

Posted by: Cap Pritchett | May 13, 2008 10:24 AM | Report abuse

Hillary 65
Obama 35

Story - 65% of nothing is still nothing: Hillary draws overwhelming support of a dismal turnout, dashing what remains of her popular vote pipe dream. Nonetheless, as her creditors grow jittery, the death march continues.

Posted by: bondjedi | May 13, 2008 10:24 AM | Report abuse

Clinton: 61%
Obama: 39%

Posted by: Jake | May 13, 2008 10:19 AM | Report abuse

Clinton 68
Obama 32

Obama picks up as many Super Delegates today (2 already) as Clinton nets in pledged in WV. It's all over but the crying.

Posted by: jallenba | May 13, 2008 10:18 AM | Report abuse

Clinton 68
Obama 32

Story Line Haiku:

Clinton Wins With Ease
Conciliatory Tone
Withdrawl could come soon

Posted by: Bethany Sanders | May 13, 2008 10:15 AM | Report abuse

Clinton 53 Obama 47

Posted by: SPENCER | May 13, 2008 10:14 AM | Report abuse

The winner. The "logo". Jerry West.

In West's final collegiate season he put up the best performances of his career. He scored a career-high 29.3 points per game and a career-high 134 assists on the season. He also set a career-high of 16.5 rebounds per game. He shot 50.4% from the field and a career-high of 76.6% from the free throw line. West was again a consensus All-American selection. West's best performance of the season was a 40-point and 16-rebound game against Virginia. West's 908 points on the season is the most points scored in a season by a Mountaineer while his 510 rebounds on the season is also a school record. His 30 double-doubles on the season is also a Mountaineer record while his 15 30-point games is also a record.

West averaged more than 30 points per game in four different NBA seasons and led the league in scoring during the 1969-70 season. One of the most memorable moments of the '69-'70 season came in the NBA Finals, against the New York Knicks. In Game 3, West hit a 60-foot shot at the buzzer to send the game into overtime.


Posted by: Zeke from Cabin Creek | May 13, 2008 10:13 AM | Report abuse

West Virginia
Clinton 57%
Obama 43%

Posted by: Elizabeth | May 13, 2008 10:11 AM | Report abuse

HRC: 65
BHO: 33

Story line: MSM will continue to play up how its over. making Obama's argument for him regarding not seating FL and MI. And by this bringing closer the day that he "clinches" the nomination by disenfranchising states with over 8% of the total population.

Obama strategists will continue talking about how they can redraw the electoral map because they know they can't win with the same patterns as 92-04. And Hillary Clinton, despite believing in her soul that she's the more electable candidate will continue to wash away her legacy by stating the obvious.

Posted by: leuchtman | May 13, 2008 10:11 AM | Report abuse

Clinton 55
Obama 45

Posted by: Elliott | May 13, 2008 10:11 AM | Report abuse

Clinton 67.6%
Obama 32.4%

Obama relaxes during the day by challenging secret Clinton supporter Kevin Pittsnogle to a game of 1-on-1, which he loses boadly.

Posted by: brentb52 | May 13, 2008 10:10 AM | Report abuse

HRC 62 BHO 37.5

The hills are alive for Hillary in WVA and Kentucky but it's not over but It is all down hill .. no Rocky Mountain High for HRC.

Posted by: Charlie | May 13, 2008 10:00 AM | Report abuse

CLINTON 58.5
OBAMA 41.5

Disappointed Clinton diagnoses West Virginia 'collar-blind'.

Posted by: JoshQW | May 13, 2008 10:00 AM | Report abuse

Clinton: 61
Obama: 39

Clinton scores late touchdown to narrow the margin of defeat slightly.

Posted by: Noah | May 13, 2008 9:58 AM | Report abuse

Clinton 62
Obama 33

Posted by: Ben Weagraff | May 13, 2008 9:58 AM | Report abuse

If Hillary comes within 50 pledge delegates of Obama - she can overcome that margin with the superedelegates.


There is a convincing argument out there that Obama's pledged delegates are inflated by about 105 due to the formulas and the quirky quacky delegate formulas.

Take a look at the state, the biggest blue state of Obama (non-homestate) is Maryland - enough to give one pause.

Hillary is out of her mind if she drops the race now.

PLUS the Superdelegates can CHANGE THEIR MINDS AT ANY TIME.

HHMMM

All you people on this board who think that Al Gore should jump in - he has the next 3 weeks to do that - he should too - Al Gore could block both of them from gaining a majority - and then some rationality could prevail.


.

Posted by: 37th&OStreet | May 13, 2008 9:57 AM | Report abuse

In W Va tonight:
Clinton 68%
Obama 32%

HRC remains in the race, as she cannot figure out a way to exit with her place in history secure in the way she wants it.

Posted by: JDG | May 13, 2008 9:57 AM | Report abuse

Clinton: 63 percent
Obama: 37 percent

The election night narrative undoubtedly goes from "Now what?" to "So what?" But more curious pundits will say there is a big "What" out there, given Obama's refusal to give election night remarks, and the breaking story today that his ground troops are encountering racists on the trail. Have you ever seen a presumptive nominee not give remarks? This will lead folks to ask, how will he heal the "can he win 'working class' voters" undercurrent that is slowly moving to a boil?

Posted by: TJA | May 13, 2008 9:57 AM | Report abuse

Predictions?! How about this one...Hillary wins West Virginia (one of the poorest and least educated states in the country) by 20pts over Obama with her and Bill Clinton over campaigining there which brings Hillary to $20 million in debt.

Then Hillary goes on to win Kentucky by 15 pts over Obama but loses Oregon by 10pts. Hillary decides to stay in the race till June 3rd with Obama winning Montana and South Dakota in which her campaign debt grows to $25 million.

As much as Hillary surrogates and supporters count Puerto Rico in the popular votes, Puerto Rico does not vote in the GENERAL ELECTION!

Posted by: AJ | May 13, 2008 9:53 AM | Report abuse

I was born in WVA, never been back but I look to the results HRC 59.4 to BHO 39.6 Edwards 1 as further evidence that our electoral system is merely a foil these days for the media pundidiots to continue to wax 'eloquent'...get the private financing totally out of elections and start preventing anyone who wants to run for President out of the process...they must have lost their minds

Posted by: cary alan ross | May 13, 2008 9:49 AM | Report abuse

Clinton 52%
Obama 33%
Edwards 2%
Write ins for Bobby Byrd 13%

By the way, while I can't complain too loudly about making fun of one of WV's sports legends, I do take some offense at the inclusion of Bob Denver. Not only was he not a native of the state; he admitted he had never visited the state before writing "Country Boy". Further, if you'll check your geography text from 3rd grade, you'll see the song's references to theBlue Ridge mountains (Tennessee), and the Shenandoah River (Virginia) are just a tad off the mark. Pretty song though Chris.

Posted by: a billy trapped in okie land | May 13, 2008 9:48 AM | Report abuse

Clinton 58
Obama 40
et al 2

I'll be really happy if HRC stays under 60 percent. Obama will win WV in the fall.

An overt Edwards endorsement for Obama would've really helped here (and in KY). Here's hoping some West Virginians caught his near-endorsements on TV in recent days.

Posted by: Julie in Boise | May 13, 2008 9:46 AM | Report abuse

clinton:63
obama:27

i think clinton will use tonights big victory to rake in the money(if she can even) and this loss highlights obamas weakness with white voters without a college education. and by next tuesday or wednesday she will drop out and obama will seat the MI FL delegates.

Posted by: laceykk23 | May 13, 2008 9:46 AM | Report abuse

Clinton 59
Obama 41

But it's just a guess. (As the team of Hanna-Barbera once said, "anything can happen in a cartoon.")

Posted by: Eyerishize | May 13, 2008 9:45 AM | Report abuse

West Virginia
Clinton: 63
Obama: 37

Posted by: cw2028 | May 13, 2008 9:44 AM | Report abuse

HILLARY'S PATH TO VICTORY


1) Win West Virginia with an impressive margin

2) Win Kentucky May 20


3) Lock up the majority at the DNC Rules committee and get Florida and Michigan delegates seated on May 31


4) Win Puerto Rico


5) Win the Popular Vote which includes Puerto Rico and thus carry the majority of the superdelegates, overcoming a slight pledged delegate lead of Obama which is primarily from wacky DNC formulas, red states, caucuses and small states that have extra delegates.


Give a final closing argument speech to the superdelegates stating that Obama is out of touch and if he is the nominee he will drag down democrats all over the country in close races.

After the Whiskey Rebellion, the founding fathers thought that a rebellion every once in a while was good for the country.


Let 'er rip.


.

Posted by: Words of Wisdom | May 13, 2008 9:42 AM | Report abuse

Clinton: 56&

Obama: 44%

Posted by: John Paulits | May 13, 2008 9:41 AM | Report abuse

HRC: 60
Obama: 35
Edwards: 5

Big shocker...96% white state in the south with the lowest per capita population of people with college degrees votes for Clinton. Scarborough, Buchanan, et al yap about Obama's problems with white voters, I continue to wonder when Wellesly became East Appalachia Community College, Yale Law School became the school of hard knocks, and being first lady of the United States and the U.S. Senator from...ummm...NEW YORK became a job stocking shelves at the local piggly wiggly!!!!

Posted by: arlee1 | May 13, 2008 9:41 AM | Report abuse

58 HC
42 BO

Hillary is not there to serve the country. They know the taste of the White House. They even have taken home stuff belong to people from White House. That is thier nature of exit. This one will not be any different than that. Ignorant folks do not understand what Clintons are dying for? Bill screwed up big time in his second term and people's business got neglected. Economy took care of itself due to tech boom. Bill claimed credit for it. Bush got caught up in the tech bubble burst. Now Hillary is playing the race card liberally to elect McCain. Hillary in my mind would even vote McCain in the general election. That is how vicious they are.

Posted by: Tom | May 13, 2008 9:35 AM | Report abuse

PS

Congratulations, Chris, for a great show on Sunday! (Keep practicing, young man, and I have an idea that Mr. Russert may have found his successor.)

Posted by: Carmen Cameron | May 13, 2008 9:33 AM | Report abuse

The latest polls show Senator Obama behind by a realistically dreadful margin here in Kentucky but that didn't stop 10,000 of us from showing up to hear him speak at the Convention Center in downtown Louisville last night. As a 59-year old, white, female (ex-Republican) ordained minister, I was DELIGHTED to see the racial, age and gender mix that laughed and mingled together like one great big extended family as we stood in line for hours!

Blessed are the peacemakers.

West Virginia:

Clinton 69%
Obama 31%

(As West Virginia and Kentucky will go on to prove, someone HAS to be at the bottom end of every learning curve.)

Headline: Clinton continues to exploit the racial division in America in desperate last grasp for power.

Posted by: Carmen Cameron | May 13, 2008 9:29 AM | Report abuse

Clinton 64%
Obama 33%
Edwards 3%

A blow out win by the Clintons in their quest to become Vice President(s) and move into Gore and Cheney's VP offices in the West Wing of the White House?

Not exactly, considering the fact that it comes in a state with a substantial number of poorly educated and economically dis-advantaged white voters who view people of color with a mixture of fear and contempt.

But a number of these unfortunate souls don't like or trust the Clintons either, so they will vote for Edwards instead,rather than acknowledge their latent racial prejudice.

There is no benefit for Obama to campaign in this type of environment until after he has chosen his VP and is engaged in the general election contest. Then these poor souls will be forced to either vote for 4 more years of economic disenfranchisement or face up to their racial fears and vote for a political change in Washington DC.

Posted by: charles laffiteau | May 13, 2008 9:28 AM | Report abuse

Clinton- 66%
Obama-34%

The light is not yet at the end of the tunnel.

Posted by: rodo | May 13, 2008 9:28 AM | Report abuse

Clinton 65%
Obama 30%
Other 5%

Pittsnogle and John Denver? What about Jennifer Garner, Brad Paisley, Pearl S. Buck, Chuck Yeager? Oh, don't forget Don Knotts and Soupy Sales!

Posted by: LeeAnn | May 13, 2008 9:27 AM | Report abuse

woman start re-registering from the democratic party to independents.

Democrats wonder "what the Hey?"

Obama flips them off in a 'subtle' gesture

Posted by: Anonymous | May 13, 2008 9:27 AM | Report abuse

woman start re-registering from the democratic party to independents.

Democrats wonder "what the Hey?"

Obama flips them off in a 'subtle' gesture

Posted by: Anonymous | May 13, 2008 9:25 AM | Report abuse

Obama announces that he does not have to win the following states in order to win the nomination


West Virginia

Kentucky

Puerto Rico


California

New York

Massachusetts

Florida

Texas

Ohio

Pennsylvania

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Posted by: Words of Wisdom | May 13, 2008 9:20 AM | Report abuse

My Mom who lives in WVA and is a 75 year old white woman and strong Clinton supporter, told me she is voting today for Obama because Hillary is out of it and she doesn't want to hurt the obvious dem nominee. It may be isolated but maybe not.

Clinton: 55%
Obama: 45%

Posted by: bhoomes | May 13, 2008 9:15 AM | Report abuse

My Mom who lives in WVA and is a 75 year old white woman and strong Clinton supporter, told me she is voting today for Obama because Hillary is out of it and she doesn't want to hurt the obvious dem nominee. It may be isolated but maybe not.

Clinton: 55%
Obama: 45%

Posted by: bhoomes | May 13, 2008 9:14 AM | Report abuse

HC 71
BO 29

Obama announces that he doesn't need to win W Va, Ohio, Pa or Fla in Nov. and that he will rely on the voters of Utah and Georgia to propel him to victory.

Obama roundly booed and his cynical speech disrupted at protests in Tallahassee and throuhout Fla today as he explains why their 2 million votes should not be counted in Denver.

Posted by: Leichtman | May 13, 2008 9:12 AM | Report abuse

Clinton - 61
Obama - 39

Storyline: Clinton Claims New Momentum; Obama Focuses on McCain

Posted by: Swinford | May 13, 2008 9:11 AM | Report abuse

Clinton 55
Obama 44

Lop-sided poll numbers keep Clinton voters home.

Posted by: gonzaga mike | May 13, 2008 9:09 AM | Report abuse

HRC-58%
BHO-42%

Obama does better than expected in WV, Clinton vows to keep fighting for votes in KY and PR.

Posted by: chadibuins | May 13, 2008 9:01 AM | Report abuse

Clinton 1
Obama 99

Posted by: Daniel | May 13, 2008 9:01 AM | Report abuse

Hello 71 29 Hillary wins


The popular vote numbers get to be eye-popping


The Obama campaign is the one that started talking about the popular vote so they are stuck with it.

My take is this


Include Florida


In Michigan give Obama a credit for the Portion of the Uncommitted based on polling date - because the uncommitteds were split between Edwards and Obama


Give Obama credit for the 4 caucuses adjusted, however use the Popular vote in Washington state

Nothing with this calculation is perfect, not even the popular vote itself - however an objective person can make an assessment based on what is out there.

Based on the above, Hillary will win the popular vote come the first week in June.

The Superdelegates should take note of that.

If the democrats do nominate Obama, they will be advancing a candidate who is not supported by a majority of their party.

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Posted by: Words of Wisdom | May 13, 2008 8:54 AM | Report abuse

Clinton 66%
Obama 34%

Headline: Clinton wins big, claims that West Virginia is a game changer. Cable Media makes a big deal out of victory to fill 6 hours of Primary Coverage. More Supers endorse Obama tomorrow and the story goes away.

Posted by: Matt Butler | May 13, 2008 8:51 AM | Report abuse

Clinton 65
Obama 35

Posted by: pnm4 | May 13, 2008 8:51 AM | Report abuse

Hillary 75 25 Medida is confused

Posted by: 37th&OStreet | May 13, 2008 8:48 AM | Report abuse

Clinton 65
Obama 34

Headline: So what?

Posted by: TMo | May 13, 2008 8:46 AM | Report abuse

West Virginia
Clinton: 63
Obama: 37

A big win which makes little difference in the overall picture. The central question Clinton supporters must ask themselves is how can our candidate, defeated in the primaries, work to help Obama win in November.

Posted by: Jordan Davies | May 13, 2008 8:41 AM | Report abuse

Clinton: 68
Obama: 31
Headline: Clinton's Mountain State Landslide Can't Avert Avalanche of Superdelegates to Obama

Posted by: Dan Greenstone | May 13, 2008 8:41 AM | Report abuse

Clinton: 57%
Obama: 41%

Headline: Hillary's big win doesn't change the fact the Obama is on his way to be the nominee. (More superdelegates declare for Obama)

Posted by: RickJ | May 13, 2008 8:37 AM | Report abuse

Obama 41
Clinton 59

Headline: After a second correct pick for the outcome of West Virginia the question remains; will Andy R ever get his "The Fix" T-shirt?

Posted by: Andy R | May 13, 2008 8:35 AM | Report abuse

Clinton: 64
Obama: 34

Posted by: clee | May 13, 2008 8:29 AM | Report abuse

WV

Clinton 59.4
Obama 40.1

Wednesday Headline:
Can Obama Convince Clinton Supporters to Vote For Him in November?

Posted by: Hulteen in mn | May 13, 2008 8:28 AM | Report abuse

West Virginia

Clinton 63%
Obama 34%
Edwards 3%

Clinton 18 delegates
Obama 10 delegates

Obama will have a net gain for the week, counting superdelegates.

Headline: Clinton's last hurrah

Posted by: Chuck | May 13, 2008 8:17 AM | Report abuse

63 Clinton
37 Obama

Posted by: marylandlegal | May 13, 2008 8:16 AM | Report abuse

Clinton 60
Obama 40

Posted by: JDugas | May 13, 2008 8:13 AM | Report abuse

Clinton 73%
Obama 27%

Posted by: mtj | May 13, 2008 8:12 AM | Report abuse

Clinton:67%
Obama: 33%

A blowout and more talk about Obama's trouble with the blue collar white vote; Obama ignores vote and picks up more superdelegates. On to Kentucky and Oregon where the race should end.

Posted by: Curt Lader | May 13, 2008 8:09 AM | Report abuse

Who cares? It's over.

Posted by: Samuel | May 13, 2008 8:09 AM | Report abuse

Clinton 56
Obama 44

And Hillary pretends once again to have "momentum."

Posted by: Rich | May 13, 2008 8:08 AM | Report abuse

Clinton 64
Obama 36

Who says sexism is more insidious than racism?

Posted by: optimyst | May 13, 2008 8:07 AM | Report abuse

61.5 Clinton
38.5 Obama

Obama "does well" in WV. Clinton still in it, and claims this victory as the start of her umpteenth comeback. Superdelegates everywhere get nervous - endorse Obama.

PS Chris - saw you on Meet the Press on Sunday - good work.

Posted by: ChicagoIndependent | May 13, 2008 8:07 AM | Report abuse

It's Hillary in a 30 point landslide, but it won't matter. Why even give this much attention? It's barely bigger than Guam (which Obama won, by the way) and cannot give Hillary a sizable boost in delegates or even mojo. It's a dud.

http://www.political-buzz.com/

Posted by: matt | May 13, 2008 8:05 AM | Report abuse

but...

Clinton 65
Obama 35

Clinton Wins. It doesn't matter. She gives a "gracious" victory speech. By end of the week she "suspends" campaign.

Posted by: Its Over | May 13, 2008 8:03 AM | Report abuse

Clinton 58
Obama 40

A pointless Reagan-dem landslide for Clinton

Posted by: tino | May 13, 2008 8:02 AM | Report abuse

Firstly CC, could you please look at the predictions for Indiana, and see I hit the nail on the head - and before polls closed, yet wasn't on the winners list! What gives?

West Virginia:

Hillary 64
Obama 36

Posted by: Boutan | May 13, 2008 7:58 AM | Report abuse

Clinton 80- Obama 20. Won't affect the overall outcome, of course, but it will underline the racial gap.


Posted by: etc | May 13, 2008 7:55 AM | Report abuse

Clinton 66
Obama 32

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Mutnemom is the word.

Posted by: Petey | May 13, 2008 7:52 AM | Report abuse

Clinton 68 (20 dels), Obama 32 (8 dels)

Secondary prediction: even with the +10 or +12 delegates that Clinton will net today in WV, Obama will still earn more total delegates this week thanks to the drip-drip-drip of superdels. In fact, with H-to-O switches, Hillary may net a negative delegate surge this week.

Tertiary prediction: Obama crosses 2025 next week with Oregon and Kentucky.

Posted by: novamatt | May 13, 2008 7:52 AM | Report abuse

Clinton 62
Obama 36

One last chance to bask in the sun.

Posted by: steve boyington | May 13, 2008 7:49 AM | Report abuse

Clinton 69%
Obama 31%

Landslide feeds concerns about Obama´s prospects in the general and fuels calls of Hillary for VP.

Posted by: tommy barban (buenos aires) | May 13, 2008 7:47 AM | Report abuse

convincing win for clinton doesn't convince superdelegates

results:
clinton 61%
obama 33%

Posted by: against the DLC | May 13, 2008 7:34 AM | Report abuse

WV results:
Clinton 65
Obama 35

Headline: Clinton wins in landslide...stays in but doesn't matter

Posted by: CDP | May 13, 2008 7:31 AM | Report abuse

West Virginia
Clinton: 58
Obama: 42

Posted by: Ram | May 13, 2008 7:28 AM | Report abuse

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