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Why the Powell Endorsement (Could) Matter

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Former Secretary of State Colin Powell (AP Photo/Jose Luis Magana)

The news that retired Gen. Colin Powell will appear this Sunday on "Meet the Press" has set off a frenzy of speculation that former secretary of State could throw his endorsement to Barack Obama.

Powell has made little secret of his admiration for the Illinois senator in the past but has always stopped short of outright endorsing him.

Will that change on Sunday? And, if it does, how much is Powell's endorsement really worth?

Seen through the prism of our handy-dandy endorsement hierarchy, Powell's endorsement of Obama would qualify as the highest powered of all endorsements: a symbolic one.

Here's several reasons why a Powell endorsement could matter:

1. Turnabout is Fair Play. Powell is best known for his most recent job in government -- as the secretary of State for President George W. Bush. The idea that a high-ranking cabinet official in a Republican administration would come out for the Democrat is simply too juicy a story for the media to ignore. That it would be someone as high profile as Powell would only add to the titillation.

2. The Most Popular Man in America? Powell, unlike almost no other official with ties to the Bush Administration, has retained remarkable popularity ratings. In an August Fox News/Opinion Dynamics poll, more than three-quarters (76 percent) of voters viewed Powell favorably while just 13 percent saw him in an unfavorable light. A large part of Powell's appeal is his perceived bipartisanship -- a direct result of his decision to repeatedly turn down overtures to run for president in his own right. For a certain (not insubstantial) portion of the electorate, when Powell speaks, they listen. The Fox News/Opinion Dynamics poll reinforces that fact; more than one in three voters said a Powell endorsement of Obama would make them more likely to vote for the Democrat. (Hat tip to Jon "The Numbers Man" Cohen for the polling data.)

3. Iraq, All Wrong. Powell, thanks to his immense popularity, was the Bush Administration's choice to make the case in front of the United Nations for the invasion of Iraq. Powell has since called that incident a "blot" on his record, and made clear his disappointment with the prosecution of the war. An endorsement of Obama, who built his candidacy on his early opposition to the conflict, would mark a clean break with the Bush Administration on the war and would add significant heft to Obama's argument that he alone possesses the judgment to lead the U.S. in a dangerous world.

4. The Final Straw. With polling -- both in the key battleground states and nationally -- showing that voters trust Obama more than John McCain to handle the current economic morass, one of McCain's last hopes is that the the election turns back somehow to a foreign policy focus. If Powell does endorse Obama, it would shore up the Illinois senator even if that eventuality occurred; it would be hard for McCain to slam Obama's approach on the war if the Democrat had a Powell endorsement sitting in his back pocket.

By Chris Cillizza  |  October 17, 2008; 4:09 PM ET
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Posted by: lia44 | October 21, 2008 10:34 PM | Report abuse

TO ALL DEMOCRATES AND LIBERALS:

"GOD FORGIVE THEM FOR THEY KNOW NOT WHAT THEY ARE DOING."

Posted by: lia44 | October 20, 2008 1:16 PM | Report abuse

And the reward for those who die while participating in Jihad we find in Sura 4:74:
“Let those fight in the cause of Allah who sell the life of this world for the Hereafter. To him who fighteth in the cause of Allah. Whether he is slain or gets victory soon shall we give him a reward of great value”
How, then, should we interpret these verses? Or rather how do Muslims choose to interpret these verses? In order to answer that we need to go to he whom the Muslims consider as their Paradigm for interpreting these verses, and a universal model for all Muslims to follow, for all time, and for all places, namely, Muhammad, and ascertain how he would have used violence, or tolerance for those under his jurisdiction.

Posted by: schneemans | October 20, 2008 8:42 AM | Report abuse

In the Qur’an, there are references to Jihad, either by name or by inference in 149 verses, and the more violent form of Jihad, called Qital (sword verses) is mentioned in 34 verses! This proves its importance for Islam today.

Let’s just look at a few of these verses in the Qur’an:
Referring to Pagans, sura 9:5 says:
“But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay those who join other gods with Allah wherever you find them; besiege them, seize them, lay in wait for them with every kind of ambush...”
Similarly, referring to Christians, sura 9:29 states:
“...Make war upon such of those to whom the scriptures have been given as believe not in Allah, or in the last day, and who forbid not what Allah and his apostle have forbidden...until they pay tribute...”
Concerning the unbelievers we can refer to sura 47:4 which says:
“When you encounter the unbelievers, strike off their heads, until ye have made a great slaughter among them...”
In sura 8:39 we find a similar admonition:
“And fight them on until there is no more tumult or oppression. And there prevail justice and faith in Allah altogether and everywhere; but if they cease, verily Allah doth see all that they do.”

Posted by: schneemans | October 20, 2008 8:40 AM | Report abuse

What, then, is the goal of radical Muslims? When you talk to them, you quickly find that they believe Allah has created mankind for a purpose, namely, to submit to him. In that submission, Allah has stipulated how mankind is to act and live. The best model for mankind is what they term the Khilafa, or Islamic state, controlled by Shariah law. Thus, their primary aim is to dismantle the entire Western system of life and replace it with the Islamic Khilafa, using three forms of Jihad (meaning to strive): 1) against one’s inner self, 2) against Satan, and 3) against the enemies of Allah (Qital), almost always by the use of the sword (i.e. Violence).

Posted by: schneemans | October 20, 2008 8:40 AM | Report abuse

According to a recent poll of four mainly Muslim nations, taken in March 18 of 2004, by the Pew Global Attitudes Project of the Pew Research Center, around 31% of Turks now support the radical movement of Osama bin Laden, while in Morocco it is 45%, and in Jordan it is 55%. Of particular concern, according to this poll, support for Osama bin Laden in Pakistan, one of Islam’s largest countries, has risen to 65% of the population, or roughly 80 million people, and this in a country which now possesses atomic weapons!

Posted by: schneemans | October 20, 2008 8:39 AM | Report abuse

In the United Kingdom, the mood among resident Muslims is becoming ever more negative with regards to the West, particularly against the governments of the United States and Great Britain. According to BBC (Gallup) and Q-News polls, taken in 2001, immediately following the 9/11 incident, radical Muslims made up roughly 15% of the Islamic community within the United Kingdom. By 2002, however, the radicals had gained up to 25% of the U.K. Muslim population. Following the recent Iraqi war, and the atrocities uncovered in the Abu Ghraib prison, that figure has probably moved even higher; and this, in a strong Western environment, situated outside the traditional world of Islam.
If one were to look to traditional Islamic societies where people are fed anti-Western views regularly, with little recourse to alternative opinions, the statistics are even more disturbing.

While not all Muslims are evil terrorists, we cannot neglect to take these fundamental features of Islam into consideration.

Posted by: schneemans | October 20, 2008 8:39 AM | Report abuse

We need to understand who these people are who are perpetrating these acts, and then we need to ask what their goal is, and from where they get their authority?
These groups of Muslims around the world who are carrying out the violent acts against the West go by many names. In Lebanon they are known as the Hezbullah (The party of God), in Palestine the Hamas, in Egypt, the Islamic Jihad, and in the United Kingdom by both the Muhajiroun, and the Hizb ul Tahrir (the party of liberation), etc.
Many pundits in the West seek to dismiss these militant elements as irrelevant extremists, representing only a small minority of the Muslim community. Recent research shows, however, that they are rapidly growing in numbers and importance, and are prepared to die for what they believe.

Posted by: schneemans | October 20, 2008 8:38 AM | Report abuse

Powell also said he was troubled that some Republicans — he excluded McCain — continue to say or allow others to say that Obama is a Muslim, when he is a Christian. Such rhetoric is polarizing, he said.

"He's always been a Christian. But the really right answer is, what if he is? Is there something wrong with being a Muslim in this country? The answer's no, that's not America," Powell said. "Is there something wrong with some 7-year-old Muslim-American kid believing that he or she could be president?"
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In the last three years the media has been replete with people defending the testimony of Islam, remonstrating against the violent acts of September 11, stipulating that this was not, nor ever has been an example of Islam, since Islam is a religion of peace, evidenced by a prophet of peace, exampled by a history of peace.

Posted by: schneemans | October 20, 2008 8:37 AM | Report abuse

To be fair, many Americans believe the country is headed in the “wrong direction.” But there is a difference between believing America is “off course” and believing it is headed over the abyss. And make no mistake: much of that “wrong direction” is the cultural rot of moral relativity, multiculturalism, and PC hyper-sensitivity directly attributable to liberalism.
No country is, or ever has been, perfect. If America has fallen short of many peoples’ expectations, maybe it should dawn on them that it might be because no other country in the world has set the bar as high as we have.
Yet for most liberals, all the good we do in the world is never enough. Any shortcoming is evidence of wholesale failure, of a need to completely re-order the American landscape. Such unrestrained pessimism is both unrealistic and unseemly. It is the whine of spoiled children who can’t seem to remember that half the world struggles to survive , not prosper.

Posted by: schneemans | October 20, 2008 8:13 AM | Report abuse

Barack Obama’s campaign is based on this premise: “I am absolutely certain that generations from now, we will be able to look back and tell our children that this was the moment when we began to provide care for the sick and good jobs to the jobless; this was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal. This was the time when we came together to remake this great nation”
Have we never cared for the sick or jobless? Trillions of dollars of wealth transfer for health entitlements, Social Security, job-training and unemployment insurance suggest otherwise. This (is) was the moment? Over the course of almost three hundred years, hundreds of thousands of American troops have paid the ultimate price to “heal” the planet of sicknesses far more deadly and self-evident than global warming. This was (is) the time we came together? No other nation on earth comes close to matching our historical legacy of assimilation, uniting against a common enemy, righting historical wrongs or creating equal opportunity for all.

Posted by: schneemans | October 20, 2008 8:12 AM | Report abuse

Thus, for example, it doesn’t matter that we ended slavery, it only matters that we had it. It doesn’t matter that we’ve produced the highest standard of living in the world, it only matters that we haven’t eliminated poverty completely. It doesn’t matter we’ve assimilated more immigrants than any other country in the world, it only matters that we want to deport “undocumented workers.” And so on and so forth.
This “the perfect is the enemy of the good” attitude has been politically nurtured by the American Left. Without it, imposing their particular version of “perfection,” aka big-government socialism, becomes impossible. With it, a country far too “imperfect” to be left to its own individualist, free-market, personally responsible devices can be brought to heel.
Today’s liberalism is not about selling reasoned or sensible change for a country that needs “tweaking.” It is about selling the hysteria that we are a nation in need of an “Extreme Makeover.”

Posted by: schneemans | October 20, 2008 8:11 AM | Report abuse

Is the United States a perfect country? Nope. Is it the best country in the world? To a large degree, the 2008 election may be a referendum on that question.
In my lifetime, there has never been a shortage of Americans more than willing to believe that our nation is tawdry collection of small-minded people–imperialists, racists, homophobes, sexists, xenophobes, evil rich, etc., etc.– whose devotion to the principles espoused by our Founding Fathers–those slave owning, dead white European males–amounts to little more than lip service.
For them, patriotism is an admixture of jingoism, naivete’ and illusion. All war is a business opportunity. Religion is a repository of prejudice and fear. History is a systematic whitewash of our genocidal exploitation of an above-reproach indigenous culture. In short, we’re a hopeless, hapless mess of a nation.
While such simplistic notions always have a kernel of truth in them, the driving force behind them all is the same: a lack of perfection equals total failure.

Posted by: schneemans | October 20, 2008 8:10 AM | Report abuse

Colin Powell is a major American figure who disappointed many of us when he went before the UN and made the case for WWD's. His endorsement of Obama today, which was perfectly and thoughtfully stated, reinstated his authority, his decency, and certainly his importance on the American political landscape. It was not racially motivated, and those who say it was are cynical and maybe even jealous. After all, these are two black men, intellectual and highly accomplished, who have claimed their stake in American history, not just as equals, but as superiors. One of them is going to be the president. The nay sayers should remember the line the Republican's taught us when we cried foul after the Florida debacle that cost Al Gore the presidency. "Get over it."

Posted by: dunnin | October 19, 2008 11:50 PM | Report abuse

When Republican parrots run out of arguments, they just start insulting you. That's as close as they can bring themselves to admitting they have lost the argument.
Soon the grumpy old man who can't remember how many houses he owns and his homecoming queen VP pick will be a fading memory and the rest of us can get on with restoring dignity back into our country.

Taps is being played on the McCain campaign! THANK GOD.

Posted by: deano1 | October 19, 2008 9:59 PM | Report abuse

I am tired of white people continuing to discount Powell's endorsement because he is black. I guess no one listened to the reasons he gave for his endorsement, which did not include because he was black. There are too many small minded people in this country, who happen to be the same people supporting Sarah Palin. I'm tired of people trying to compare her experience to that of Obama's. He has run for president for two years and given hundreds of interviews and participated in 26 debates. He has knowledge about and interest in the issues that affect the nation. Palin has given two real interviews and had only one debate in which she read her answers from index cards. Obama has been vetted by American voters. Palin has not. Obama went through a primary and won. Palin has not. It is clear that Palin has not thought critically about the issues facing the nation. No one has said that white people are supporting her and McCain because they are white. When black people vote for white candidates, which happens in every election no one questions whether race was a factor. So from now on, when white people vote for white candidates we will say they are doing it because of race. Sounds ridiculous. It is.

Posted by: adrobinson | October 19, 2008 9:38 PM | Report abuse

So now that it has happened, the idea that the Republican candidates could bring superior military judgment to the head of government is fully bashed.

Previously, in one bold stroke when John McCain selected Palin, he showed that that he valued his own military experience as next to worthless.

He also lost his sense of conservative values by choosing a "popular" politician that acts exactly like Hugo Chavez of Venezuela. Should we re-evaluate Chavez or Palin?

Posted by: JamesBullis | October 19, 2008 7:33 PM | Report abuse

With Colin Powell's endorsement of Barack Obama, John McCain is in DEEP political DOO-DOO.

And so is SILLY SARAH (Palin). OsiSpeaks.com

Posted by: KYJurisDoctor | October 19, 2008 7:10 PM | Report abuse

Oh, and a quick word to darrin_holmes and others hung up on Ayers. McCain has some really sketchy "associations," too-- with ultra right-wing bombers and assassins (the Cuban Liberty Council), Iran-Contra drug dealers and death squads (the World Council of Freedom), the unrepentant Watergate plumber G. Gordon Liddy (who got fired from a radio show for suggesting that if the feds entered your home, you should aim for the head), not to mention a 60s radical named David Ifshin who gave a speech on Radio Hanoi calling American bomber pilots war criminals. McCain befriended this guy to the point that he gave the eulogy at his funeral.

The mainstream media has more or less completely given McCain a pass on these "associations" (though you can Google and find articles about all of them) and Obama has ignored the topic for the most part because he's actually attempting the novel experiment of running a campaign on issues rather than character assassination.

So really give up your fantasies about Ayers and the phony stories about dual citizenship and secret Muslim-terrorist ties. It just makes you sound pathetic. Bill Ayers isn't a terrorist--he's a guy who served time for doing stupid stuff 40 years ago and now he teaches teachers. In the stuff I've read, at least, nobody died as a direct result of any of Ayers' actions, which is a lot more than you can say about the crew that dragged us to Iraq and nearly blew up the economy.

If it's guilt by association you're worried about, then I say give me a 60s radical who teaches teachers any day--or even Ifshin, who sincerely repented of his speech in Hanoi--than the jack-booted brown shirts McCain "pals around with." God forbid any of those buys gets their grubby mitts anywhere near our foreign policy.

Posted by: kerikeri | October 19, 2008 4:24 PM | Report abuse

Amusing, the guy who says Colin Powell has no constituency so the endorsement is meaningless.

What about MILITARY families? MILITARY retirees? Masses of people in these categories live in North Carolina, Virginia, and especially Florida. Winning any of these, but especially Virginia and Florida, would give Obama the presidency.

I think we just saw the October surprise.

Posted by: kerikeri | October 19, 2008 4:00 PM | Report abuse

now i am convienced mr powell that blacks will vote for a black canidate..i will not look up to you anymore. you were a hero in my mind ONCE.. not anymore.. i see that you are a man driven by race-- period.. you are a disgrace to me now-- and yes i am white, and i will do as you do---support my race!!!!!!!!

Posted by: darin_holmes | October 19, 2008 2:30 PM | Report abuse

Colin Powell's endorsement will be a plus for Obama for the reasons cited by the author. MCCain/Palin are both SCARY and neither are Mavericks. When McCain selected Palin as VP this shows that he has very poor judgment and cannot be entrusted with our great nation.

I am an Independent voter who has voted for Republican candidates in prior presidential elections. However,over the last eight years coupled with the conduct of the present election, I have grown to disrespect and dislike the Republican Party. Reading some of these blogs just confirms those feelings about Republicans.

The outrageous,violental and divisive conduct of Palin and McCain just demonstrates that a McCain adminstration would be the same as Bush, which is marked by lies, scandals, hypocrisy,involvement in a useless war that has cost the lives of thousands and trillions of dollars and a crashing economy.

I was tricked by the Karl Rove playbook and other Republican demons like Rush L. and Sean Hannity who use fear tactics and smears to deceive the American people but NOT this election. On November 4, I will be voting for Obama who will rebuild and unite the country here and internationally.

I love this country too much to vote for McCain whose temperment along with his poor judgment is DANGEROUS to the safety and prosperity of our nation.

Posted by: LSMaryland | October 19, 2008 2:13 PM | Report abuse

Sen. McCain says he a washed-up old terrorist—then why does he keep talking about him? They're trying to connect [Obama] to some kind of terrorist feelings, and I think that's inappropriate... Now I understand what politics is all about — I know how you can go after one another. And that's good. But I think this goes too far. And I think it has made the McCain campaign look a little narrow. It's not what the American people are looking for. And I look at these kinds of approaches to the campaign, and they trouble me. And the party has moved even further to the right, and Governor Palin has indicated a further rightward shift.

"This is not the way we should be doing it in America. I feel strongly about this particular point. We have got to stop polarizing ourselves in this way. And John McCain is as non-discriminatory as anyone I know. But I'm troubled about the fact that within the party, we have these kinds of expressions."

-- Colin Powell

he keeps talking about him mr. powell, because thats how you find someones values-(look at there past)- it tells alot about that person-- i looked up to you mr powell until you disgraced your name by endorsing a fool.. the only thing narrow is your wave of thought toward this..i hope the american people can see though this stupidity--

Posted by: darin_holmes | October 19, 2008 2:08 PM | Report abuse

For years I've heard conservatives say that they wished Powell would run for President. A true American patriot who brilliantly served Ronald Reagan, George H.W. Bush, and George W. Bush. As soon as he endorsed Obama, he became in their eyes just another black man. The GOP is clearly no longer the party of Lincoln, no longer a party that can see beyond the color of man's skin. Truly sad.

Posted by: XRINO | October 19, 2008 1:31 PM | Report abuse

Black Powell did endorse black Obama, absolutely no surprise there. The surprise would have been if this black man did not support Obama. The blacks are supporting the "color" of black about 98%, they care almost nothing about the issues. They would support Osama if he dyed his skin blacker.

Posted by: love234america | October 19, 2008 10:01 AM | Report abuse


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And some white folks aren't doing the same? So your saying that the some white folks are voting about issues not because a BLACK man might lead the country? I ask again - some white folks aren't doing the same?? GTFOH!

Dude - don't kid yourself, this is A-merry-ca.

Posted by: solrac2002 | October 19, 2008 12:54 PM | Report abuse

another high profile, life long, bush appointee republican defects

http://www.philly.com/inquirer/columnists/michael_smerconish/31242619.html

Posted by: Arthur5 | October 19, 2008 12:39 PM | Report abuse

I'm sure the neo-con, religious wackos will soon determine powell is a closet muslin terrorist who should be 'killed'

if he would have agreed to mccains overatures, then he would be a flag waving patriot from the pro-america part of the country...

to question this mans motives does nothing to dimish his character, but only that of the 'critic'...


Former Secretary of State Colin Powell's endorsement today of Barack Obama gives the Democratic presidential candidate high-profile evidence of the bipartisan appeal that Republicans fear most

After being aggressively courted by both Obama and Republican John McCain -- with whom he has hjad a much longer and more intimate relationship -- Powell used a Sunday appearance on NBC's "Meet the Press" to declare his support for the Democrat.

Hailing Obama's "ability to inspire" and the "inclusive nature of his campaign," the man who was not so long ago a featured speaker at Republican National Conventions -- and some suggested a potential GOP contender for the presidency -- announced that he would vote for the Democrat.

"I think he is a transformational figure, he is a new generation coming onto the world stage, onto the American stage, and for that reason I'll be voting for Sen. Barack Obama," Powell.

Rejecting as Republican attacks on Obama's patriotism and preparation for office as ridiculous and troubling, Powell said, "I think that's inappropriate. I understand what politics is about -- I know how you can go after one another, and that's good. But I think this goes too far, and I think it has made the McCain campaign look a little narrow. It's not what the American people are looking for."

The retired general said that, particularly with regard to the financial crisis, "Obama displayed a steadiness, an intellectual curiosity, a depth of knowledge... He has met the standard of being a successful president, being an exceptional president."

While Powell said "it isn't easy for me to disappoint Sen. McCain in the way that I have this morning," McCain responded that the general's choice "doesn't come as a surprise." And McCain made note of the fact that he is backed by -- no kidding -- former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger.

Memo to McCain: Powell may be an imperfect player in the minds of many (especially for those of us who recall his February, 2002, testimony on Iraq before the UN), but he trumps Kissinger.

Posted by: Arthur5 | October 19, 2008 12:05 PM | Report abuse

Powel endorses Obama. I see it the same issues as when Oprah endorsed Obama. Race over substance. But hey, that's okay as long as you're not a white man endorseing a white man just because he's white. That would be racist. But it's okay when a black man crosses over from Rep to Dem and dismisses his party & all he has ever stood for. No, that's not racist. that's just the Messiah effect I guess. Liberals, you can keep your Messiah, mine already came & saved my soul. Yours will sell his soul and take yours as well to win this election.

Posted by: LFforMcCain
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powell=oprah?
you are blinded by hate and insecurity...
open your heart and mind...or you are lost

he did not disrespect mccain, just the opposite

at least we're selling OUR souls, guys like you sell the souls of others...racist
and you purport to be a man of faith
Jesus weeps for you and your ilk...

Posted by: Arthur5 | October 19, 2008 12:01 PM | Report abuse

Powel endorses Obama. I see it the same issues as when Oprah endorsed Obama. Race over substance. But hey, that's okay as long as you're not a white man endorseing a white man just because he's white. That would be racist. But it's okay when a black man crosses over from Rep to Dem and dismisses his party & all he has ever stood for. No, that's not racist. that's just the Messiah effect I guess. Liberals, you can keep your Messiah, mine already came & saved my soul. Yours will sell his soul and take yours as well to win this election.

Posted by: LFforMcCain | October 19, 2008 11:54 AM | Report abuse

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Usvf4PhsGDI

Israeli generals/mossad guys support obama

Posted by: Arthur5 | October 19, 2008 11:53 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Arthur5 | October 19, 2008 11:49 AM | Report abuse

National Defense is important to me too! I appreciate your response. I have heard Powell was the only one to oppose the Iraq wae... Sarah Palon really scaresthe ... out of me! Do you really think she could protect this nation during a time of war should something happen to McCain, who I respect highly his experience. I just think judgement is key, and his judgement when selecting her as a running mate makes me hesitant. I am republican and want to vote McCain, this is ny biggest fear.

Posted by: Linda24 | October 19, 2008 11:48 AM | Report abuse

many generals & statesmen support obama also...but more importantly the PEOPLE do

$150 mil in sept.
>1/2 mil new donors
if you can get people to part with their $ during these trying times, that's saying something...

he raised the most ever in one month to date, while COMPETING against clinton!
10 mil > kerry during his convention...

he's bought up ALL available airtime...
he has to spend money in red states just to get rid of it...which makes mccain spend money in places he didn't plan on...

the fact that mccain opted for public funding shows 2 things:
1 bad judgement, obama needed $ to counter the swiftboating brigade
2 he did not think he could raise more money privately, he questioned his level support

this all shows me, that obama is smarter...
he's 'owning' mccain, he's a better manager or 'executive', not to mention more tuned into the peoples neeeds...

Posted by: Arthur5 | October 19, 2008 11:47 AM | Report abuse


Powell endorsed Cheney too, then put us smack in the middle of Iraq.

Henry Kissinger, retired Gen. Alexander Haig, Lawrence Eagleburger and George Shultz all said they would support McCain. More than 200 Generals endorse Mc Cain.

National Security is the most important issue in this election to me, because Americans will spend. We spent shortly after wtc 911, and we will spend today.

Posted by: dottydo | October 19, 2008 11:38 AM | Report abuse

MISCONCEPTION:

Obama is NOT giving a TAX CREDIT to people on welfare!! He has consistantly said he will give tax cuts to 95% of WORKING families. Stop the lies and look at each tax plan fairly. Our economic condition we all face. This is too important and the decision is hard enough! Please stop the misconceptions people. We need to make an intelligent and informed decision here, the stakes are TOO HIGH!!!

Please STOP the spin on OBAMA's tax plan.

Posted by: Linda24 | October 19, 2008 11:30 AM | Report abuse

another nail in the mccain campaigns coffin

this was not an easy decision for powell
but he's voting his conscience tempered with logic

who here can question him?
who here has accomplished 1/2 as much?
worked as deep inside government?
served the country more?
more intelligent?
no one...

you can disagree with him, but to denigrate his decision as a 'black' thing is typical of all that is wrong with our Country...

Posted by: Arthur5 | October 19, 2008 11:25 AM | Report abuse

love234-

Perhaps one reason McCain is not getting the 'Black' vote is because he frankly has done NOTHING to show any interest in the Black community. Or maybe it has something to do with the fact that McCain voted against MLK Day in Arizona, but now he wants to apologize for that now that he is running for president? Or maybe it has something to do with the Palin rallies and the words 'kill him!' and 'terrorist' being shouted and McCain has yet to directly address the comments. And then he wants to turn around and say his feelings are hurt when Rep John Lewis came out to say that McCain's campaign is taking on a negative tone similar to the 1960s? PLEASE. This is the Truman Show.

Posted by: kikgirl | October 19, 2008 11:09 AM | Report abuse

A lot of us realize that Mr. Powell tried desperately to make the Bush/Cheney administration pay attention to facts and reality, and they refused. We realize that he was chewed up and spit out by the fools running the White House, badly mistreated, and forced out for not playing their game. He was not a "Yes man", like Bush/Cheney wanted, and that's why we still respect him.

Posted by: jaynashvil | October 19, 2008 10:40 AM | Report abuse

love234america - you obviously did not listen to Powell today on MTP..he gave more than sufficient reasons to back Obama - and none of them simply because they are both Black...

Posted by: JJH1 | October 19, 2008 10:26 AM | Report abuse

I wish people would get educated about socialism like is some kind of dirty words.I dont think people realize that we used socialism to bail out the crooks on wall street. People get confused between socialism, fashism, capitalism and comunism.Democrat socialism as they have in Europe is simply using your tax dollar for domestic social projects and less to subsidize the rich fat cats, it is not about nationalize every business, in fact Europe encourages citizen to privatize much of their business, THE GOVERNMENT DOES NOT TELL PEOPLE WHAT TO DO!The way the system works in this country , lets have socialism for the crooks on wall st ,and have Capitalism for the middle class and the poor. Is this the way government supposed to work?

Posted by: capskip | October 19, 2008 10:11 AM | Report abuse

Black Powell did endorse black Obama, absolutely no surprise there. The surprise would have been if this black man did not support Obama. The blacks are supporting the "color" of black about 98%, they care almost nothing about the issues. They would support Osama if he dyed his skin blacker.

Posted by: love234america | October 19, 2008 10:01 AM | Report abuse

From UK's skynews: "Former Secretary of State Colin Powell has endorsed Barack Obama for President of the United States."
Welcome aboard, general. We just got your papers. Your quarters will be ready shortly. An all-hands is scheduled for 10:30 this morning.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | October 19, 2008 9:54 AM | Report abuse

Yes, it's nice to have dreams, but for now, the "Joe's" need to wake up to the reality that they will benefit more from Obama's tax CUTS for the people who make UNDER $200,000 a year.

Posted by: joy2 | October 19, 2008 9:19 AM | Report abuse


Joy- Yes having something to strive for is more than nice, it's the engine that makes our country run- giving "tax credits" to people who don't currently pay income tax IS Welfare and in keeping with the following-

"From each according to his ability, to each according to his need"
K Marx 1875 & B Obama 2008

which is the engine that ruined the USSR...


Posted by: thecannula | October 19, 2008 9:47 AM | Report abuse

Powell is backing Obama!

Posted by: infidelsshiver | October 19, 2008 9:42 AM | Report abuse

Yes, times they are a' changin': HD/Hotline O at 7; Daily Kos, O at 7. 100,000+ at O's St. Louis message-of-hope yesterday...

Despite the alleged tightening of the national polls (which, in a country of 300 million, are sampling 700-1000 landline-phone-using voters at a time and pretty much no young voters), the electoral count is unchanged: 286 for O, which assumes O's loss of OH and FL.

The state-by-state polls (confirmed by on-ground anecdotal information) in battleground states are in fact not tightening. They have been trending upward in the states like VA along O's path to 270, actually 269.

Gen. Colin, while a public figure and celebrity, has no consituency, even among AAs, and therefore his endorsement is very welcome but irrelevant. There are, however, other Powells whose endorsements would be much more newsworthy and significant: Jane Powell (why no TV offers? "Dancing with the Stars" maybe?), Dick Powell (Wouldn't he be great in "Oceans 14"?), William Powell (if he went with O, surely Myrna Loy would follow), and Asfa Powell (he could run to the CBS studio in 10 flat to give his endorsement)...

Sunday shoutouts to superpatriots: DDawd, popasmoke, officermancuso, and the rest.

Shoutdowns to 37andO alley, dianne72, asper"girl", and thecanoli.
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Posted by: thecannula | October 19, 2008 7:17 AM:

"Sunday 10/19/08
OH THE TIMES, THEY ARE A CHANGIN....

National Reuters/C-SPAN/Zogby Obama 48, McCain 45 Obama +3"

Posted by: broadwayjoe | October 19, 2008 9:34 AM | Report abuse

COLIN POWELL HAS ENDORSED BARRACK OBAMA, HERE 's TO YOU JOHN MCSENILE. OBAMA/BIDEN 08
Connie from Indiana

Posted by: grams1944 | October 19, 2008 9:31 AM | Report abuse

Sunday 10/19/08
OH THE TIMES, THEY ARE A CHANGIN....

National Reuters/C-SPAN/Zogby Obama 48, McCain 45 Obama +3

KEEP IT UP DAPISTOL INDEPENDENTS AND CONSERVATIVE DEMOCRATS ARE LISTENING!

"Joe the plumber and every other small business should be sent a list of non-taxpayers so that they can just send them a check directly. Eliminating Obama's commission for brokering the deal could be a huge savings, and the average small business could probably cover this cost by firing just 1 person. The unemployment rate doesn't really matter as long as everyone is getting paid! People don't want to work and they don't need much to survive; they really just want to watch TV all day! For $500/month from their working comrades, 100 million non-taxpaying Americans could be living the American dream!"
-Dapistol


Dapistol-

You've hit the nail on the head- Obama wants to run America like ANIMAL FARM!

"From each according to his ability, to each according to his need"
K Marx 1875 & B Obama 2008


Posted by: thecannula | October 19, 2008 7:17 AM | Report abuse

The same people that brought Bush to power are working to get McCain elected. If McCain is not Bush, why is he using robocalls like the ones Bush used against him in South Carolina accusing him of fathering a black child? Why has he for months used negative ads like the one he defended in his Des Moines Register interview accusing Obama of corrupting young children with sex education? Is this political expediency?
If that's the case then McCain is a foully
corrupt man who is no better than Karl Rove in his dealings with the public.

If elected, McCain will completely destroy the middle class by creating and enforcing laws protecting the wealthy and corporations.
He will attack Social Security and Medicare.
He will tax employee healthcare and deregulate state oversight of insurance companies worsening healthcare for millions.
Worst of all he will send the country into a brutal long recession by over reacting in his spending freeze, closing off paths to recovery.

When McCain hugged Bush he wasn't kidding.
His middle name isn't Sidney, it's George

Posted by: seemstome | October 19, 2008 5:36 AM | Report abuse

JOHN MCCAIN
Mr. "894" out of "899".

Are you going to tell me John Mccain with his high school education and next to last in his class navel academy finish you want for the leader of the country? He has never held a job in his life or even brought home a paycheck.
He never built a business ran a company in fact did anything on his own without someone else doing it for him. First his family, then his wife, whose father by the way, bought him his political career. The man is in such an intellectual rut, he can't even turn on a computer. Heck, I would like to know how he manages his senatorial duties being to technologically illiterate? This is the man we want to lead our country? A man who even lacks the intellectual curiosity or initiative to even keep up with the times. Lets be honest, he is a moron and it would take an even bigger moron to vote for him.
John Mccain is a complete and utter dunce. Totally lazy and unaccomplished his whole life all the way back to his high school days. I won't even get into his years as an admitted drunk confirmed by everyone who knew him. Please, give me a break. John Mccain, they really scrapped the bottom of the barrel when they nominated this loser.

Posted by: popasmoke | October 19, 2008 4:57 AM | Report abuse

WHAT SOME OF THE PEOPLE WHO KNOW HIM BEST SAY ABOUT JOHN MCCAIN.......

"He is a vicious person"
Former representative Charles LeBoutillier R-NY
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"An embarrassment to the party"
Arizona GOP state senator Susan Johnson
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"There is nothing redeeming about John Mccain...he's a hypocrite"
Former house GOP whip Tom DeLay
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"The thought of him being president sends a chill down my spine. He is erratic"
Senator Thad Cochran, R- MS
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"Hard headed is one way to say it. Arrogant is another way to say it. It's a quality about him that disturbs me".
Larry Wilkerson, former chief aide to Colin Powell
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"What happens if he gets angry in a crisis...? It's the presidents job to negotiate and stay calm. I just don't see that he has that quality".
Former Arizona GOP chairman John Hinz
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"His temper would place this country at risk...and the world perhaps in danger. In my mind that should disqualify him"
Former Senator Bob Smith, R-NM
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"I decided I didn't want this guy anywhere near a trigger."
Senator Pete Domenici, R-NM

Posted by: popasmoke | October 19, 2008 4:51 AM | Report abuse

mccain is a habitual liar...appears his wife is too...

When he met Ms. Hensley in 1979, they both lied about their ages, with John saying he was four years younger and Cindy saying she was four years older. He's 18 years older than she is, something they didn't find out until they were married and saw each other's birth dates on their marriage certificate, the McCains told TV news show 20/20 .


he also tried to kill himself twice when a POW
why? guilt for collaborating?
or just plain unstable
this man is dangerous

Posted by: Arthur5 | October 19, 2008 4:42 AM | Report abuse


"Joe the plumber and every other small business should be sent a list of non-taxpayers so that they can just send them a check directly."

Joe the plumber would be on that list himself ;)

Posted by: DDAWD | October 19, 2008 1:24 AM | Report abuse

==========
Joe the plumber will be on that list. The guy is a phony who makes, what for a plumber, is minimum wage. He doesn't even have a license. Turns out the guy he works doesn't have a license either. He is an unlicensed contractor. I guess now Joe doesn't even have a job and his boss in in hot water. I would think any jobs he had going are on hold till he gets his license problem taken care of. Also jobs he has done in the past will have to be taken a second look at permits and so on. He probably works under the table much of the time. Now big mouth Joe has caused him a world of trouble. What an idiot that guy is.

Posted by: popasmoke | October 19, 2008 4:26 AM | Report abuse

A Powell endorsement should be found reassuring to those who have been on the fence or perhaps tilting toward Obama but perhaps second thoughts around these accusations of him being "un-American." The characterizations of Obama and Biden as "un-American" or Socialist are the latest in a long line of efforts by right-wing extremists to accuse everyone who does not share their policy views as being less American than themselves.

It's appalling that these types of attacks are now being voiced by a mainstream serious politician like McCain rather than merely by the far-right kooky extreme elements who have mouthed these scurrilous, venomous, hate-filled epithets in years past.

Conservatives have through the years attempted to claim the American Flag, the Bible, the Constitution, and now the nation itself as their property, attempting to deny those various symbols to their political opponents. The suggestions in recent days that those Americans who are not Republicans or not conservative in ideology are less patriotic or less American than are conservatives and far-right Republicans are not at all new.

One has to think that many mainstream moderate Republicans share the sense expressed by Maine Senator Susan Collins who has called for such efforts to cease and desist.

Such efforts to label people as less patriotic or less American are distractions from the real problems and issues facing the country, such as the economy, health care, energy, education.

Saddled with a failed Republican President, an unpopular war, a deep and worrisome economic crisis, McCain has chosen to plunge into the abyss with the far right rather than attempt to run a centrist campaign which would have given him his best opportunity for victory.

Having lost the battle of ideas, and with his party having driven the country into the ditch, McCain and many Republicans have now resorted to attempts at character assassination. He and they deserve to lose in the landslide that awaits them.

Posted by: OHIOCITIZEN | October 19, 2008 3:33 AM | Report abuse

95%+ Americans would pay more tax under mccain

he's a socialist
redistributing wealth from the lower to higher income brackets

top 1% earn 21% of all income, pay <15% of all taxes
lower 50% earn 13% of all income, pay 30% of all taxes...
the gap ha grown dramatically in the last 8 years
rich getting richer, everyone else falling behind...

all you trailer trash better get with the program or you'll be missing NASCAR when they shut your cable off...

for you repubs, you won'tneed books in the unemployment line...you ain't smart enough to read...

Posted by: Arthur5 | October 19, 2008 2:44 AM | Report abuse

95%+ Americans would pay more tax under mccain

he's a socialist
redistributing wealth from the lower to higher income brackets

top 1% earn 21% of all income, pay <15% of all taxes
lower 50% earn 13% of all income, pay 30% of all taxes...
the gap ha grown dramatically in the last 8 years
rich getting richer, everyone else falling behind...

all you trailer trash better get with the program or you'll be missing NASCAR when they shut your cable off...

for you repubs, you won'tneed books in the unemployment line...you ain't smart enough to read...

Posted by: Arthur5 | October 19, 2008 2:44 AM | Report abuse

"Joe the plumber and every other small business should be sent a list of non-taxpayers so that they can just send them a check directly."

Joe the plumber would be on that list himself ;)

Posted by: DDAWD | October 19, 2008 1:24 AM | Report abuse

From Emant2: What amazes me about the Bible toting repugnants is their ability to only remember parts of the Bible that they want to, like abortion, marriage, etc. However, when it comes to racism and treating others with respect, they seem to have thrown those verses out of their Bible. If you are going to throw the Bible around, use all of it.

Posted by: emant2

Emant2, All I wanted to say was thank you and Amen... We are our brother's keeper... As Christ said, "What you do to the least among us... you also do to me."
I want to share the food, education, and medical care. Does that make me a Socialist or a Christian? Is a Socialist a bad thing if it's Christian? If I have more than enough for me and mine, why wouldn't I want to share the wealth? Hmmm? Have we been brainwashed in this country to believe that only the rich deserve their basic rights to health, housing, and education? How did our nation get here?

Posted by: collette0779 | October 19, 2008 1:06 AM | Report abuse

From Emant2: What amazes me about the Bible toting repugnants is their ability to only remember parts of the Bible that they want to, like abortion, marriage, etc. However, when it comes to racism and treating others with respect, they seem to have thrown those verses out of their Bible. If you are going to throw the Bible around, use all of it.

Posted by: emant2

Emant2, All I wanted to say was thank you and Amen... We are our brother's keeper... As Christ said, "What you do to the least among us... you also do to me."
I want to share the food, education, and medical care. Does that make me a Socialist or a Christian? Is a Socialist a bad thing if it's Christian? If I have more than enough for me and mine, why wouldn't I want to share the wealth? Hmmm? Have we been brainwashed in this country to believe that only the rich deserve their basic rights to health, housing, and education? How did our nation get here?

Posted by: collette0779 | October 19, 2008 1:04 AM | Report abuse

At our kitchen table discussions, with Republicans and Democrats, Powell was the only candidate mentioned that pulled our guests together when talking about who could cross party lines and unite America. Too bad he didn't run... If Powell supports Obama it would go a long way in healing the wounds of this fragile nation. For the sake of my children and my precious grandson I hope the hype isn't hype.

Posted by: collette0779 | October 19, 2008 12:53 AM | Report abuse

Joe the plumber and every other small business should be sent a list of non-taxpayers so that they can just send them a check directly. Eliminating Obama's commission for brokering the deal could be a huge savings, and the average small business could probably cover this cost by firing just 1 person. The unemployment rate doesn't really matter as long as everyone is getting paid! People don't want to work and they don't need much to survive; they really just want to watch TV all day! For $500/month from their working comrades, 100 million non-taxpaying Americans could be living the American dream!
-Dapistol


Dapistol-

AMEN Brother, I'm glad the cavalry has arrived!

Let's just rename America, "The United States of ANIMAL FARM"!

"From each according to his ability, to each according to his need"
K Marx 1875 & B Obama 2008

Posted by: thecannula | October 19, 2008 12:45 AM | Report abuse

Some Suggestions for Unemployment Line Reading Should Obama/Biden (what's a 3 letter word starting with J? J-O-B-S!)get Elected-

Book Title Author # of Words Language Volumes
1 Marienbad My Love Mark Leach 17 million English
2 The Blah Story Nigel Tomm 11.3 million English 23
3 The Story of the Vivian Girls Henry Darger 9 million English 10
4 Artamene Madeleine and Georges de Scudéry 2.1 million French
5 Knickers Simon Roberts 2 million English
6 À la recherche du temps perdu Marcel Proust 1.5 million French 13
7 Mission Earth L. Ron Hubbard 1.2 million English 10
8 Sironia, Texas Madison Cooper 1.1 million English 2
9 A Dance to the Music of Time Anthony Powell more than 1 million English 12
10 Clarissa Samuel Richardson 969,000 English 9

Posted by: thecannula | October 19, 2008 12:30 AM | Report abuse

The Only 3% More Myth-

(also see:
the "He was only a guy in my neighborhood" myth,
the "letting Rezko buy my sideyard was a bonehead move" myth
the "corn ethanol reduces our dependency on foreign oil" myth,
and the "there were already laws on the books-though I have never cited one even though I was head of the Harvard Law Review" myth...)

Over 250K in profit small business owners under Obama's plan pay 3% more in INCOME TAX PLUS 15.65% more on their payroll taxes for a total of 55-60% of personal income (passed through from their corporations)= LAYOFFS!


LLC vs S Corporation:
Advantages and Disadvantages


S Corporation: To qualify, generally, the corporation must have a maximum of 75 shareholders who are individuals. Once a corporation makes the Subchapter S election to be an S-Corporation, profits and losses are passed through the corporation and are reported on the individual tax returns of the respective shareholders of the S-Corporation.


This is the same basic "pass-through" treatment afforded partnerships and LLCs. The key distinction of the S-Corporation is that profits and losses are not taxed at the corporate/business level like they would be if the corporation remained as a C Corporation.


An LLC is not a separate tax entity like a corporation; it is what the IRS calls a pass through entity, like a partnership or sole proprietorship. All of the profits and losses of the LLC pass through the business to the LLC owners , who report this information on their personal tax returns. The LLC itself does not pay federal income taxes, but some states do charge the LLC itself a tax.

That's US Tax Law! Profits of S Corp and LLC gets passed through to Obama's 55-60% tax rate! Hey kids, let's go garden in the Tony Rezko Memorial Garden! Daddy's gonna lay off some staff and smell the roses a bit more.

Even Bill Clinton said Raising Payroll Taxes was REGRESSIVE!


Posted by: thecannula | October 19, 2008 12:21 AM | Report abuse

If you voted for Bush you may not speak of "on the job training".

Posted by: DaveMiner | October 18, 2008 11:59 PM | Report abuse

What amazes me about the Bible toting repugnants is their ability to only remember parts of the Bible that they want to, like abortion, marriage, etc. However, when it comes to racism and treating others with respect, they seem to have thrown those verses out of their Bible. If you are going to throw the Bible around, use all of it.

Posted by: emant2 | October 18, 2008 11:23 PM | Report abuse

Chris, shouldn't it be Secretary Powell, rather than Gen. Powell? Isn't the rule to use the highest title achieved in one's career. We don't refer to Bill Clinton as Gov. Clinton, rather we refer to him as President Clinton. The late Gen. Eisenhower is referred to as President Eisenhower.

Posted by: jandcgall1 | October 18, 2008 11:17 PM | Report abuse

Ampeg, Biven9999, 234America,

So what you are saying then is that Joe Liberman is supporting McCain insted of Obama is because he is a White racist. Is that correct?? Because that can be the only reason an "independent" democrat would vote for a Republican, right?

Posted by: Repub | October 18, 2008 7:56 PM | Report abuse

There's a brand new video out of Sarah's famous exorcism. It's really funny!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jqQYedt-EU

Posted by: LisaJM | October 18, 2008 7:30 PM | Report abuse

JOHN MCCAIN, HE REGARDS LYING AS AN ART HE IS PROUD OF AND BRAGS ABOUT IT
I heard Mccain say something once I found interesting in light of this election. He was talking and braged that one of the things he learned as a POW was the ability to lie and be deceptive. Look you right in the face and lie. He said you had to if you were to survive as a POW. This was at a VFW hall he was speaking at around the time he wrote one of his books. I knew nothing about Mccain at the time and being president was far in his future. It stuck with me though and I was reminded of it in this election. When cornered Mccain will say or do anything to survive. I believe Mccain has no problem telling lies even today, including professing to being a straight talker. He lies about being honest. He is a walking catch-22. Is he lying when he says he is not lying? With him the truth is what ever serves his needs at the time he says it. You have been seeing it the last few months as he swears he didn't say something he said only the day before and continues the lie even in the face of proof like a tape of him saying it. Lying to Mccain is a tool, I suspect that has served him well all his life be it in his private life, such as cheating on his wife, or in politics. Mccain is not a compulsive liar, he is a well practiced liar.

Posted by: popasmoke | October 18, 2008 6:59 PM | Report abuse

J'AIME BARACK OBAMA!

OBAMA BIDEN 08!!!

PAYS__BAS

Posted by: fu_buki | October 18, 2008 6:54 PM | Report abuse

OBAMA BIDEN 08...!!!

LE MONDE ENTIER AIMENT BARACK OBAMA.

PAYS__BAS

Posted by: fu_buki | October 18, 2008 6:06 PM | Report abuse

"Gee, what a surprise. Like Pavlov's slobbering dogs, another black guy shows the possibility of supporting another black guy. Nothing like racism. "

Wow. You accuse them of racism. What if it was a white supporting a white? Is that racist? Is George Bush racist for supporting John McCain?

Racism doesn't just mean fear or hatred of a different race. It means exactly what you demonstrate - holding another race to a different standard, or treating them differently than your own.

Anyone who says minorities are treated equally in this country has their head where the sun doesn't shine. Just read the posts here and elsewhere.

Posted by: Prophet1 | October 18, 2008 5:56 PM | Report abuse

MTDON:

Please read Jane Mayer's The Dark Side ... Powell didn't knowingly lie at the UN - Cheney assured him the info was coming from a high level source, which it was ... unfortunately, the source was saying just about anything since he was being tortured .. . Powell didn't know this.

Posted by: DCPSTeacher | October 18, 2008 5:12 PM | Report abuse

Lets face if there is some question of relative military competence and expertise here,
anyone with at least half a brain (which probably excludes the more rabid Palinites et all) would be forced to give an exponential superiority rating to Powell as compared to McCain.
Powell fought at every level in several wars ground commander through chief of staff; he was involved in all phases of battlefield assault, strategy and maneuvers. He came up the chain of command based on merit.. The arguments for his superiority are infinite compared to McCain.
McCain barely got through the naval academy, and was only allowed to gradate because of family connections. Then in and on his way to Vietnam he crashed a couple of planes, and sat out the war uncomfortably in North Vietnamese military prison- he saw no real action in Vietnam. His bravery in refusing to leave when given a chance could as easily be attributed to his sense that he had nothing to contribute as a fighter if he got out.
Yes Powell was ignominiously forced to lie for the bush administration war criminals Bush, Rumsfeld and Cheney to his shame.
But McCain lies every day of his life as a public figure – switching positions according to the voting group he is trying to kiss up to.
Oh yeah speaking about kissing up, McCain’s other great Military achievement:
Kissing most a*s kissing to General Patreus, who as his chief publicity agent he has designated as the “greatest General in the History of America”.
Not surprisingly he staked his military career on this identification, since McCain is no great military man himself, however he is a first rate political liar, not surprisingly he also tied his career to the 3rd rate, half wit political Liar Syrup Palin.
Fractionistly yours,
D, Screed

Posted by: LuxLumina | October 18, 2008 5:12 PM | Report abuse

HUM HUM...!!!

Posted by: fu_buki | October 18, 2008 4:47 PM | Report abuse

OBAMA BIDEN 08...!!!@@@

PAYS__BAS

Posted by: fu_buki | October 18, 2008 4:22 PM | Report abuse

OBAMA BIDEN 08...!!!@@@


PAYS_BAS

Posted by: fu_buki | October 18, 2008 4:09 PM | Report abuse

I did not know mccain's was a dope addict who stole her fix from a non-profit she was associated with...classy

she also was involved in the keating 5 crime...

first lady? first loser?

Posted by: Arthur5 | October 18, 2008 4:08 PM | Report abuse

LE MONDE ENTIER AIME BARACK OBAMA.

OBAMA BIDEN 08...!!!@@@

NETHERLANDS ANTILLES

Posted by: fu_buki | October 18, 2008 3:55 PM | Report abuse

OBAMA BIDEN 08...!!!@@@

PAYS__BAS

Posted by: fu_buki | October 18, 2008 3:50 PM | Report abuse

**When you consiter how little experience Barack Obama has, **
Has John McCain ever been president?
No?
He has no experience either.
If we are going to base our choice for our next president on who has the most experience, it comes down to a choice between Bill Clinton and 'W'. (The only living two term predidents)
You know who has a lot of experience? Ted Stevens, that guy in Alaska standing trial for corruption. Ted Kennedy has a lot of experience as well, and the added recommendation that he's not looking at 3 to life. He has a brain tumor but honestly, is that a reason not to vote for the man? 'W' was an idiot, we made him President with no experience whatsoever, so experience is something the right worries about in Democrats only.
Check out that deep conservative thinker Sarah Palin, if you have any doubts about how empty your argument is.

Posted by: dijetlo | October 18, 2008 3:50 PM | Report abuse

I checked the transcript. Harried "axed" chew that.
____
harried asked, "Well Occifa Mancuso, do de phrase words "DIRTBAG COP" ring a note!"

If it do, I'll never tell!

Posted by: officermancuso | October 17, 2008 9:20 PM

Posted by: broadwayjoe | October 18, 2008 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Go away Mr Powell - you lost all credibity when you lied at the UN - you embarrased the USA and just go retire and leave public life! A true soldier doesn't lie for a president a the expense of the COUNTRY.

Posted by: mtdon | October 18, 2008 2:57 PM | Report abuse

Armpeg... so, when a Caucasian endorses another Caucasian, it's because of racial solidarity and tribalism as well? How about when a woman endorses a woman? That's about female tribalism? Wake up. Racism is a powerful, insidious, and deep-seated problem in the US (as well as other places). But to think that only tribalism (what an ugly word!) would lead General Powell to endorse Obama is a racist's observation. If you don't like Obama, all well and good. But to smear him and any African-American who supports him with charges of "tribalism" is indeed brutish, barbaric and wrong. There is finally a solidarity of emotion, intellect and hope such as this country hasn't seen since JFK and FDR. As a Democrat, I reluctantly add Reagan, although the intellect was a little thin; but Reagan did bring hope and emotion to a worried electorate. Obama represents the best of America - not the racist past, nor the fat cats who have stolen our savings and mortgaged our children's and grandchildren's futures.

Posted by: rdl114 | October 18, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse

When you consiter how little experience Barack Obama has, and how dangerous it would be to have a US President who needs on the job training for the most powerful job in the world in a time when the Islamofacists have declared a Jihad (Holy War) against all of the Western cultures, if Colin Powell endorses Barack Obama, it will be due only because Obama and Powell are both black. By doing so, Colin Powell would be putting the interests of racial solidarity and tribalism ahead of the interests of our country.

Posted by: armpeg | October 18, 2008 1:24 PM | Report abuse

powell has a degree in geology and an MBA
he has massive executive experience and has weathered many crisis, some life and death...

he could fit anywhere...
perhaps energy?

Posted by: Arthur5 | October 18, 2008 12:55 PM | Report abuse

Bingo! Not only would a Powell endorsement have weight for Obama, but I would like to believe he would be an advisor or cabinet member in an Obama administration. Not State Dept., but using his leadership and administrative talents in an area that he has defined in more recent years...an area that Obama has established as a priority. Colin Powell for Secretary of Education. If anyone can make an impact, shake things up, bring some order, he can. No more cronyism in cabinet postings, just strong leaders who can make a difference.

Posted by: Rivery | October 18, 2008 12:50 PM | Report abuse

I don't doubt that Colin Powell will be a ranking member of the Obama administration along with will Bill Richardson, Wesley Clark, and the governors of Arizona and Missouri.

Posted by: Nevadaandy | October 18, 2008 12:43 PM | Report abuse

Warren Buffet admitted that he pays less taxes than his secretary and that he could afford to pay more in taxes.

Spreading the wealth around means having those who made their wealth off the backs of their hard working, under paid employees would pay more in taxes, while those hard working employees who helped fatten their wallets would be given a tax break. The wealthy have more tax loop holes to evade paying taxes, while middle America bears the higher tax burden.

Greedy corporate magnates with their golden parachutes should be forced to pay a higher landing fee (taxes). If they lay people off because of higher taxes then it perpetuates the notion that they want to keep more of the profits for themselves. It's the greed of these CEO's that has gotten us into the mess we're in - it's about time they contribute to helping getting us out of it. Working class Americans are struggling while those who got us into this mess continue to live in the lap of luxury.

On the possible endorsement of Obama by Gen Powell, it will help convince those voters who are still undecided or on the fence about Obama.

Posted by: Nevadaandy | October 18, 2008 12:32 PM | Report abuse

lia44

palin IS the anti-christ and a succubus

she feels it's her obligation to intiate thermonuclear war with russia/china in order to bring about the end of days...

obama holds 1 citizenship, US
don't you think the neo-con, religious wackos would bring this out if he was not a citizen or held dual citizenship?

Posted by: Arthur5 | October 18, 2008 12:05 PM | Report abuse

mccain is a lying scumbag politician

so 3% more on >250k
so if you make 260k you'll pay 3% on 10k...
$300 more in taxes on 260k...
a real burden...heck, that's almost as bad as a traumatic brain injury from an IED that also blew your buddies guts all over you...

The Statement
Republican presidential nominee Sen. John McCain, during a speech on October 16 outside Philadelphia, recounted the story of "Joe the Plumber," a man who held a conversation with Democratic candidate Sen. Barack Obama and who became the surprise star of the candidates' October 15 debate when McCain gave an account of the story. McCain said the man told Obama, "'Look, I've been working all my life — 10, 12 hours. I want to buy the business I'm in, but you're going to raise my taxes.' And you know what Senator Obama had to say to Joe? He wanted to spread his wealth around. He wanted to spread his wealth around."

The Facts
Sen. Obama had been campaigning outside Toledo, Ohio, on October 13 when he met Joe Wurzelbacher, 34, who works for Newell Plumbing & Heating Co., a small firm in the Toledo area. "I'm getting ready to buy a company that makes $250-270-80 thousand a year," Wurzelbacher said. "Your new tax plan is going to tax m more, isn't it?"

Obama explained his tax plan during the roughly five-minute exchange — telling Wurzelbacher that the tax rate on the portion of his income that was more than $250,000 would be increased from 36 percent to 39 percent. But he also mentioned that his plan includes a 50 percent small-business tax credit for health care and a proposal to eliminate the capital-gains tax for small businesses that increase in value. Obama said his tax plan, which he said focuses on bigger breaks for people making lower incomes, would be good for the economy. "If you've got a plumbing business, you're going to be better off if you've got a whole bunch of customers who can afford to hire you," he said. "Right now, everybody's so pinched that business is bad for everybody. And I think when you spread the wealth around, it's good for everybody."

Wurzelbacher said, "The reason I ask you about the American Dream, I mean I've worked hard. I'm a plumber. I work 10, 12 hours a day and I'm buying this company and I'm going to continue working that way. … I'm getting taxed more and more while fulfilling the American Dream."

In an interview with CNN on Thursday, October 16, Wurzelbacher said he had misunderstood Obama's plan and that the company he wants to buy makes well less than $250,000 a year — which Obama says means his taxes would not be increased.

The Verdict:
Misleading. McCain's remark was an oversimplification of a five-minute-long conversation. Obama replied in great detail about his tax plan, and the "spread the wealth" remark was one small part of the conversation.

Filed under: Fact Check

Posted by: Arthur5 | October 18, 2008 11:47 AM | Report abuse

cannulu

from the AIA (a professional association)
not a company that wants to sell you something...

Profit. Finally, firms need to be profitable in order to reinvest in their business as well as to create a “war chest” for unexpected events. The AIA Firm Survey reports average firm profitability at 10.5 percent.

you're mssing the whole point:

a real person like me, will not let $500/yr slow my initiative...

where as a guy like you will you it as an excuse for never acheiving something you never could anyways ;)


Posted by: Arthur5 | October 18, 2008 11:29 AM | Report abuse

Question I think that needsto be answered. Does Obama hold a duel citizenship in the U.S. and in Kenya? Also they keep talking about the racist card being played whenever any thing is said about Obama but isn't it racist what is being done to Sarah Palin because she is a woman and a mother? About taking from the rich and giving to the poor isn't really going to be taking from the white people and giving to the black or african-americans. I fear if Obama is elected they are going to put the white population into slavery to punish us for what happen about 2 hundred years ago in which I and no one else alive today had anything to do with the slavery back then. I feel in my heart that Obama is the anti-christ everything he says and does runs so close to the series called LEFT BEHIND that I read and it scares the heck out of me. I really don't know who to vote for. I am actually thinking about writing in Hillary Clinton on my ballot and voting for her. I feel if you can't win an honest election without all the voter fraud ACORN is doing in the name of the Democratic party why run if this is the only way you can win. Voter fraud of this type just cancells out my vote and everyone elses vote. There are alot of questions the GOP needs to be asking to set people's mind at ease and I have no answer to the questions. No one will ask the right questions to get the answers because they are so scared of being called a racist. This election is a total mess.

Posted by: lia44 | October 18, 2008 11:26 AM | Report abuse

The fact is Obama's tax plan is just a return to the PROVEN system
Bill Clinton used during the prosperity of his term in office.
Bill Clinton left office with huge budget surpluses.

McCain's tax plan is just an extension of the PROVEN failure of the Bush tax system of rewarding the wealthy and corporations at the expense of the middle class. The middle class is now paying for his mess.

People like to argue theory and statistics but it's as simple as this:

ARE YOU BETTER OFF NOW THAN YOU WERE EIGHT YEARS AGO?

Posted by: seemstome | October 18, 2008 11:19 AM | Report abuse

SO-14% of $2 Million in revenue pays you an average of $280,000- the majority of REAL engineers in this situation break Obama's glass ceiling and pay 3% more PLUS 15.65% more on their payroll taxes for a total of 55-60% of personal income (passed through from their corporations): LAYOFFS!

Posted by: thecannula
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not true...most engineers make 50-100k
that number is for a firm of partners where the number is distributed amongst partners...
recent grads ~50k or so, a good experienced guy 100k or so

I have no partners, but I do 1.8-2 mil in rev...
I net 10-12% in profit ~220k
(lower income area, hence lower rates and m/u)
100k to my employees and management in bonus's
50k back into the company (trucks, GPS surveying, computers, etc.)
the balance for me ~70...
I pay myself 50/hr ~ 110-120k/yr
110 + 70 ~180 (I plan for 180k/yr)
I also own the building and rent it to myself

all you 'patriots' amuse me...
I carried a gun for the Country for 6 years, I can pay a bit more in taxes...

the poor shoulder the bulk of the war fighting, the rich are immune...
in fact no one in the military makes 250k...and the members come disproporationately from the lower income levels...so you hypocrites want them to fight and pay more taxes...

I'll pay more so that I (or my family) can keep their lives, arms, legs, etc.
and to compensate those who could not keep theirs...

it's the least I can do to help Her dig ourselves out of the huge hole we're in...

we are a bunch of wimps...we are not willing to make any sacrifices (if you can call 500 more on 250k income, a 'sacrifice')
it pales in comparison to what our troops are giving...

as was the slang in my service days...
you guys make me puke

Posted by: Arthur5 | October 18, 2008 11:18 AM | Report abuse

JD - If you see this, pls email me at mark_in_austin@operamail.com. All will be explained.

Posted by: mark_in_austin | October 18, 2008 10:53 AM | Report abuse

From Daily Commercial News
July 19, 2007

American design firms see profits soar

NATICK, MASS.

Profits at architecture and engineering firms in the United States have soared to all-time highs, driven by strong labour utilization rates and lower levels of overhead expenses.

Data in ZweigWhite’s newly published 2007 Financial Performance Survey of Architecture, Engineering, Planning & Environmental Consulting Firms indicates firms’ median pre-tax, pre-bonus profit margin on net service revenue increased for the third straight year, reaching an all-time high level of 14 per cent.(!!!)

SO-14% of $2 Million in revenue pays you an average of $280,000- the majority of REAL engineers in this situation break Obama's glass ceiling and pay 3% more PLUS 15.65% more on their payroll taxes for a total of 55-60% of personal income (passed through from their corporations): LAYOFFS!

Posted by: thecannula | October 18, 2008 10:41 AM | Report abuse

A quality National Security Council:
President: Barack Obama
Vice-President: Joe Biden
Secretary of State: Lee Hamilton
Seceretary of Defense: Colin Powell
National Security Advisor: Sam Nunn

Posted by: klowry57 | October 18, 2008 10:41 AM | Report abuse

Powell in the Secretary of Defense pool (along with incumbent Gates, Hagel, and Nunn, among others) would make for interesting conversation.

Posted by: FirstMouse1 | October 18, 2008 10:29 AM | Report abuse

LLC vs S Corporation:
Advantages and Disadvantages


S Corporation: To qualify, generally, the corporation must have a maximum of 75 shareholders who are individuals. Once a corporation makes the Subchapter S election to be an S-Corporation, profits and losses are passed through the corporation and are reported on the individual tax returns of the respective shareholders of the S-Corporation.


This is the same basic "pass-through" treatment afforded partnerships and LLCs. The key distinction of the S-Corporation is that profits and losses are not taxed at the corporate/business level like they would be if the corporation remained as a C Corporation.


An LLC is not a separate tax entity like a corporation; it is what the IRS calls a pass through entity, like a partnership or sole proprietorship. All of the profits and losses of the LLC pass through the business to the LLC owners , who report this information on their personal tax returns. The LLC itself does not pay federal income taxes, but some states do charge the LLC itself a tax.

That's US Tax Law! Profits of S Corp and LLC gets passed through to Obama's 55-60% tax rate! Hey kids, let's go garden in the Tony Rezko Memorial Garden! Daddy's gonna lay off some staff and smell the roses a bit more.

Posted by: thecannula | October 18, 2008 10:13 AM | Report abuse

Don't take wikipedias word for it, the state of Delaware has a handy chart.

http://www.pdfdownload.org/pdf2html/pdf2html.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Frevenue.delaware.gov%2Fservices%2FBusiness_Tax%2Fbusiness_structures_table.pdf&images=yes

LLC (Limited liability corps) are poor mans liability insurance, assets of the "partners" are protected in case the LLC looses in litigation.
S corps, the form we use for incorporation, doesn't pass income through the owners, so you don't incur a personal income tax liability regardless of how much money your corporation makes. You have to file corporate taxes and pay a the corporate tax rate but only on net profit. Net profit is an amorphous number your generally control through equipment purchases, loans, stock dividends, labor costs...you have a lot of ways to shave that number down for the tax man.

Posted by: dijetlo | October 18, 2008 9:39 AM | Report abuse

With all due respect to Gen. Powell, his endorsement at this late date -- with all national polls, and all polls of the seven or so battleground states, favoring O, most beyond the MOE -- would not be news and would have no effect on the race.

Although he is a prominent public figure, he has no constituency to carry with him, not even among fellow AAs. So the endorsement would be interesting background noise, but nothing more.

What is fascinating is the polling: depending on what polls you look at, O is headed to a electoral landslide or a squeaker. Most think it's to be a landslide since, according to Real Clear Politics, he leads in every battleground state, including OH, FL, and Va. Based current polling, Mac has no credible path to 270. (O needs only 269.) The huge wild card is of course the r- card.

Colbert King has an eye-opening column today (Saturday) in the Post about how strong race plays in some quarters. It is clear from King's report that the media accounts of Palin hate rallies and the like actually play down the intensity of the bigotry felt by some -- it is really unsettling, like a wayback machine to 1954 and the desegregation of schools. But the expected wave of young voters, new registrants, AA voters, and PO'ed normal people, and the support of independents and Obamacans, should offset the r- card this time.

Recent Winners: O, Biden, Maureen Dowd, Bob Schieffer, Bob Herbert, Keith Olbermann, John Lewis, Manny Ramirez, Washington Post polls, E.J. Dionne, Eugene Robinson, Dean Smith.

Recent Losers: Mac, Palin, Gwen Awf-, er, Ifill, Joe-the-[not]Plumber, Herr Hannity, Mark Halperin, HD closeups of "Mrs." Billie Jean King in GEICO commercials, "Rev." J. Jackson, Jeff Kent, Zogby "polls," and "the Dean."

Posted by: broadwayjoe | October 18, 2008 9:39 AM | Report abuse

Wikipedia-
An S corporation or S-corp, for United States federal income tax purposes, is a corporation that makes a valid election to be taxed under Subchapter S of Chapter 1 of the Internal Revenue Code.

In general, S Corporations do not pay any income taxes. Instead, the corporation's income or losses are divided among and passed through to its shareholders. The shareholders must then report the income or loss on their own individual income tax returns.

Hey "CAPTAINS OF INDUSTRY"-

Maybe you guys are writing from a minimum security prison if you paid 15% federal income tax on your BIG BAD ENGINEERING FIRMS that employ 40 people and generate 180K for the owner, as Arthur5"s "does"! The rest of us real small businessmen pay the going tax rate on profit and THAT DOES EFFECT HIRING! The goal of a small business is profit, not revenue! BUT AS such astute businessmen, with such wonderful accountants- you knew that!

(Dijetlo- YOU'RE Talking about an llc I'M TALKING ABOUT A SUBCHAPTER S CORP!)

Posted by: thecannula | October 18, 2008 9:11 AM | Report abuse

Endorsement has little value. If endorsements have value and it will consolidate the followers of the endorser to endorsee, polling should show that Obama is getting ~ 70% of the vote. Both Clitons and all other democratic party officials endorsed Obama, particlarly Hillary C. Where is 18 million voted for Hillary C.?

Posted by: madayilnair | October 18, 2008 8:58 AM | Report abuse

**Hey Genius- It's called an S Chapter Corporation- Most small businesses fall under this tax classification- profits are treated as personal income for the proprietor**

You're talking about an LLC.
S-Corps issue stock, stocks may accrue a dividend or they may not, it' up to the officers of the corporation
Which is why all this bruhaha about small business people paying more tax on earnings over $250,000 is just so much BS.
I actually own a small business. If I decide my compensation is going to be in excess of $250,000 this year, I'll make the bulk of that a stock dividend because I only pay capital gains on that income, it isn't counted as earnings in the climb to $250K.
The other argument I find amusing is that the tax rate will effect hiring decisions. Hiring is a function of expansion, I don't hire people because I have money laying around, I hire people because I need more people (we've expanded). My personal tax rate doesn't factor into the equation.
The last thing is, there are so many loopholes in the tax system for business that almost everything I do is tax deductible as far as the business is concerned. As a percentage of gross profit (what we make in the actual transactions) the actual taxable profit we pay is minuscule, less then three %.
Don't blame me, the accountant is the one doing it.

Posted by: dijetlo | October 18, 2008 8:51 AM | Report abuse

Obama would have to be crazy not to offer Powell a cabinet position, possibly as high as SecDef or even State. It would be a clear effort of bipartisanship and will help do boost Obama's credibility amongst moderate republicans.

For those who think that Powell's support for the Iraq war is the silver bullet for Powell's career, please remember this is a man of outstanding character who has a long history of service. One mistake does not make him unworthy.

Powell should endorse Obama on Sunday. And in November, after the election, Obama should offer him a serious position in his administration.

This almost takes us into fantasy Obama cabinet territory, but I guess there is an election to win first...

Posted by: pr8mrh | October 18, 2008 3:29 AM | Report abuse

"So, If 4.1 million firms generate 694 Billion dollars and 1/3rd close within 2 years, one can assume that the other 2/3 generate the majority of the revenue-
600 billion divided by 4.1 million x 2/3=
$219,780 mean revenue. One can imagine that all small businesses are doing at least as well as minority small businesses.
A profit of 250,000 doesn't seem too farfetched for a significant percentage of small businesses that employ people, since one person ebay sellers are included in these numbers!

Keep it up Obama- I'm one small businessman who will cut payroll AND revenue AND hours worked rather than give my hard earned dollars to ACORN and Ayers related education programs- raise taxes higher and we'll have 12% unemployment before long!"
__________________________________________

It cracks me up to read your silly illogic.

We have record budget deficits because taxes were cut on the corporations and wealthy people. Since obviously you are one of the small percentage of Americans who take home $250,000/year, That means 95% of the population who did not receive a tax cut are subsidizing your tax cut. Unfortunately for you, because the portion of that 95% who make up your customer base are subsidizing you with their taxes, they have less to spend on your products...

2) If paying a few more dollars in taxes on your $250,000/year would be such a hardship, you could always give your employees more than minimum wage! Maybe they could even buy your products, or your customers' products. By the way, the idea of spreading the wealth by paying your people more originated with a left-wing socialist named Henry Ford!

3) You must not have kids, because if you did, you would realize that if we don't balance the federal budget, your kids' and grand kids taxes' will go through the roof and they wont get anything for it because it will all go toward interest on the national debt!

I am so tired of reading these posts by greedy people who have no understanding of basic economics. The US has a industrial market economy. Market economies depend on mass consumption to support mass production. Recessions occur when supply exceeds demand, prices drop, unemployment goes up, etc. As unemployment goes up, purchasing power goes down, driving demand down, etc., etc. Depressions occur when the downward spiral is not broken and reversed. The worst thing you can do in an economic downturn is redistribute wealth upward. Giving tax breaks to businesses and the wealthy when there is no purchasing power (demand) for their products all but guarantees a recession turning into a depression. The current crises in the financial sector has the very real prospect of freezing commerce. It is crucial that we get more purchasing power to the broader consumer base or being taxed will be the least of small businesses problems.

Posted by: risejugger | October 18, 2008 2:14 AM | Report abuse

btw cannulu, your parents have any kids that lived?

Posted by: Arthur5 | October 18, 2008 2:13 AM | Report abuse

180k...
I know that's not much to you or mccain (5 mil is rich to him), but it's quite sufficient for me...
I share the profit with my managers and employees...

I also own a plant that treats gas well wastewater, nets ~6-8k/month...I know that's chump change to a high roller like you, but I manage to eek out an existence...

my wife is a CPA tax accountant...we do all right...
how do you like living in a trailer park?

Posted by: Arthur5 | October 18, 2008 2:11 AM | Report abuse

Arthur5-
I guess the nurses have closed the computer for the night...sweet Haldol dreams!

Posted by: thecannula | October 18, 2008 2:06 AM | Report abuse

180k?
On a 40 person engineering firm withj 2 million in revenue that "YOU OWN"?????????
AND YOU have the right accountant?-
must be a great patent Arthur...back to the drawing board or back to your padded cell, more likely- you accuse Joe the Plumber of making it up? YOU'RE Making it up! Mr. Limited Intelligence you never got back to me on the 3% - 15.65% discrepancy....oh, that's because YOU DON'T MAKE 250 K, so YOU'RE NOT AFFECTED!

Posted by: thecannula | October 18, 2008 2:01 AM | Report abuse

later twits:

F1 qualifying is on now...
I was just passing time with intellectually challenged...enjoy your bigotry and hate while you stand in the welfare line

Posted by: Arthur5 | October 18, 2008 2:00 AM | Report abuse

mccain napalmed orphanages, hospitals an schools

moral man? left his crippled wife for $ and pu$$y

Posted by: Arthur5 | October 18, 2008 1:56 AM | Report abuse

mccain immolated 140 guys on the forrestal

he was not injured but yet was evacuated first to protect him from his own men...

mccain wanted to go home, his dady the admiral nixed it...

Posted by: Arthur5 | October 18, 2008 1:55 AM | Report abuse

patent hold...there's millions of them, and 99.99% never made a dime...
I hold one, for a fume hood control system...

I have a MSEE, MBA and PE's in numerous states...I made 100k in 1988, and have been increasing ever since...maybe 180k this year...and have been banking it...so 500 is not important to me...what is: killing US soldiers for ideology or sport like the repubs have been doing...

you uys need to relax: I know it's bad for your self esteem to have a black man rule you, but your daughters have got used to it, so will you...

Posted by: Arthur5 | October 18, 2008 1:53 AM | Report abuse

better socialist than a traitor
-arthur5

Oh, and McCain went home first right?
Better a hero than an opponent of the Infant Protection Act (Kennedy and Boxer supported the SAME wording as did NARAL- but not Senator "Throw the baby in the garbage, just don't check its pulse") and proponent of corn ethanol- uses one unit of petroleum for every unit it replaces and increases food prices and global warming!
Nice going Obama!

Posted by: thecannula | October 18, 2008 1:53 AM | Report abuse

you guys are brainwashed...
regardless, with your limited intellect I don't think you'll ever have to worry about making >200k- Arthur5

HEY ENGINEER- I'm a US Patent holder- look in the mirror if you want to talk to someone with a limited intellect!

Posted by: thecannula | October 18, 2008 1:47 AM | Report abuse

Just bring this paragraph to your wizard accountant Arthur 5- then get back to me how to make 15.65% shrink to 3%!

The real kicker, though, is that Senator Obama would end the Social Security payroll tax cap for those over $250,000 in earnings. (The cap is currently set at $102,000.) These individuals will then face a tax rate of 15.65 percent from payroll taxes and the top income tax rate of 39.6 percent for a combined top rate of over 56 percent on each additional dollar earned.

Posted by: thecannula | October 18, 2008 1:44 AM | Report abuse

tax rate is going from 36 to 39 on income >250k or so...

net tax will be ~45k under either plan
obama will be 500 more, that's all...

you guys are brainwashed...
regardless, with your limited intellect I don't think you'll ever have to worry about making >200k, so under obama your 40k will go further...

Posted by: Arthur5 | October 18, 2008 1:43 AM | Report abuse

mccain sold his fellow pow's out for a warm meal...

country first? comrades last...

better socialist than a traitor

Posted by: Arthur5 | October 18, 2008 1:40 AM | Report abuse

an extra 3% on my net > 250k will not make any difference:
Arthur5

???????????????

Where do you get an extra 3%? Tax rates are going north of 55%!

Rea Hederman-
Presidential hopeful Senator Barack Obama (D–Ill.) has unveiled his economic plan of raising taxes on the successful. His plan would boost the top marginal rate to well over 55 percent—before the inclusion of state and local taxes—resulting in many individuals seeing their marginal tax rate double. The consequences of this policy would be a return to the bad old days of tax avoidance, with taxpayers disguising personal income as business income or capital gains and the migration of capital from the United States to abroad.

Among the more prominent elements of his tax proposal, Senator Obama would end the Bush tax cuts and allow the top two tax rates to return to 36 and 39.6 percent. He also would allow personal exemptions and deductions to be phased out for those with income over $250,000. The real kicker, though, is that Senator Obama would end the Social Security payroll tax cap for those over $250,000 in earnings. (The cap is currently set at $102,000.) These individuals will then face a tax rate of 15.65 percent from payroll taxes and the top income tax rate of 39.6 percent for a combined top rate of over 56 percent on each additional dollar earned.

High-income individuals will be forced to pay even more if they live in cities or states with high taxes such as New York City, California, or Maryland. These unlucky people would pay over two-thirds of each new dollar in earnings to the federal government.

How the Obama Tax Plan Compares to Other Countries

Senator Obama's new tax rate would give the United States one of the highest tax rates among developed countries. Currently only six of the top 30 industrial nations have a tax rate for all levels of government combined of over 55 percent. Under this tax plan, the United States would join this group and have a higher top rate than such high-tax nations as Sweden and Denmark. The top marginal rate would exceed 60 percent with the inclusion of state and local taxes, which means that only Hungary would exceed Senator Obama's new proposed top tax rate.

Posted by: thecannula | October 18, 2008 1:39 AM | Report abuse

OBAMA IS A SOCIALIST!
HIS MOST RECENT SERMON CLAIMS:
“I THINK WHEN YOU SPREAD THE WEALTH AROUND, IT’S GOOD FOR EVERYBODY.” What Barack means is for government taking from one group of people (the people who worked hard and earned it) and giving it to those who did not earned it (welfare cheats).

WELCOME TO BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA’S NEW AMERICA, IT’S CALLED REDISTRIBUTION OF WEALTH and his tax cuts for 95% of America is nothing more than Government welfare for people that don’t pay taxes at all. He’s even promising to cut taxes enough that the government’s tax share of GDP will be no more than 18.2% — which is lower than it is today.
There are several sleights of hand, but the most crafty is to redefine the meaning of “tax cut.”
For Barack Hussein Obama, a tax cut is no longer letting you keep more of what you earn. IN HIS REDISTRIBUTION OF WEALTH PLAN, A TAX CUT INCLUDES TENS OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN GOVERNMENT HANDOUTS THAT ARE DISGUISED BY THE PHRASE “TAX CREDIT.”

Will hard working Americans support to cater to the ”parasite class” and bury the American worker further?

Mission almost accomplished.
UNLESS YOU VOTE FOR THE PATRIOT JOHN MCCAIN, AND PRESERVE AMERICA AND OUR AMERICAN VALUES!

Posted by: Manolete | October 18, 2008 1:34 AM | Report abuse

Here You Go NoCando-

NYPOST: October 17, 2008 -- THOUGH he's battling GOP accusations that he's an Ivy League elitist, Barack Obama has a lifestyle of the rich and famous, like TV show host Robin Leach , who always signed off, 'Champagne wishes and caviar dreams!' While he was at a meeting at the Waldorf-Astoria at 4 p.m. Wednesday, Michelle Obama called room service and ordered lobster hors d'oeuvres, two whole steamed lobsters, Iranian caviar and champagne...

Posted by: thecannula | October 18, 2008 1:31 AM | Report abuse

I own a small business...
40 prson engineering firm
2 mil in revenue
an extra 3% on my net > 250k will not make any difference:

I need relief from healthcare costs...
obama will bring that...

inflation will run rampant with mccains flawed policies...so that 3% will be consumed quickly, so although I will pay $500 yr less on 250k, I will pay much more to for expenses...

you guys who think an extra $500 on 250k is a lot need a better accountant...

Posted by: Arthur5 | October 18, 2008 1:28 AM | Report abuse

Hey NoCando-
Some of your $5 donations to Obama and the Palestinians $1000
donations went to Caviar and Champagne on Obama's room service tab at the Waldorf Astoria last night....I hope he saved some to give to ACORN to use in Ohio to bribe more young "voters" to register 72 times!

Posted by: thecannula | October 18, 2008 1:26 AM | Report abuse

mccain plays on the basest of emotions:
greed, keep your money with me!!!
selfish, self-centered and destructive
the very things that destroyed our economy...

obama, on a better future for all...
but it will cost to do so...
huge deficit, health care, SS, many injured vets to care for, energy projects, etc....none of this comes free...

mccain is hell bent on destroying the country in retribution for us putting him in a position to be captured as a POW...
he is dangerous, palin is insane

Posted by: Arthur5 | October 18, 2008 1:22 AM | Report abuse

".NONE of what you say is true, this and all your pathetic ravings have been vetted, yet your ADD is keeping you from learning...There is help for that, go and seek help!!!"


Posted by: nallcando
***************

Hey Genius- It's called an S Chapter Corporation- Most small businesses fall under this tax classification- profits are treated as personal income for the proprietor- SOMETHING YOU OBVIOUSLY ARE NOT AND WILL NEVER BE- Obama will raise taxes to the sky, approaching 55-60% OF PERSONAL INCOME when one figures in State and Local taxes for people who own businesses making over his magic number-
as I said before, I'd rather lay off 1/3rd of my employees and play with my kids or garden in my Rezko-like side yard than give morons like you my hard earned wages!

From Word Refernce Forum-

"Your monthly "nut" is the total of your mortgage or rent, utilities, car payment, insurance, credit card payments (if any) -- in other words, all the things you must pay. Your groceries, for example, although necessary, are not considered part of your monthly nut, as far as I know. They are flexible and you can cut back if you have to.

Another way to look at it: it is the minimum you have to come up with each month not to default on any outstanding obligation."

Posted by: thecannula | October 18, 2008 1:21 AM | Report abuse

repubs controlled the house, senate & the oval office in 2004...but were too fixated on war and making the rich, richer...

they are responsible for all todays financial problems and the deaths of x00,000's iraqi women and children...

Posted by: Arthur5 | October 18, 2008 1:15 AM | Report abuse

Back in 2004, when the Republicans controlled the House, they tried to have a hearing on the threat that the financial mismanagement of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac presented to the U.S. economy. Here’s the video evidence of the Democrats defending the status quo and blocking efforts to hold officials accountable. This problem did not get the publicity it deserved in the liberal media, such as the New York Times and the Washington Post. This incredible Congressional video shows Republicans in Congress trying hard to regulate better Fannie Mae and how the Democrats fought that tooth and nail, even referring to criticism of former chairman Raines as a "lynching".

http://www.classicalvalues.com/archives/2008/09/it_wasnt_broke.html

Posted by: sagereader | October 18, 2008 1:01 AM | Report abuse

Secretary Powell is a man of great integrity and honor. I respect him enormously. His endorsement is one that would matter to me.

Posted by: maq1 | October 18, 2008 12:59 AM | Report abuse

That would be friggin' sweet.

Posted by: JesusWizardo | October 18, 2008 12:55 AM | Report abuse

Right genius, so after I have covered my nut, I'm going home and playing with my kids rather than killing myself so Obama can distribute my hard earned cash to ACORN and Radical Education Programs, like the one he supported with Ayres...I'll probably lay off 1/3rd of my employees- let Obama employ them, like FDR did in the last Depression....note I didn't call it the GREAT Depression- that one's coming soon to you and Obama-
Hey ShepherdMarilyn and Broedd, did you see the room service bill for Barack and Michelle at the Waldorf last night? Caviar and Champagne all the way! ______________________________________________________________________________________

Good you should cover your nut! with both hands, for they are doing your thinking for you...NONE of what you say is true, this and all your pathetic ravings have been vetted, yet your ADD is keeping you from learning...There is help for that, go and seek help!!!

Posted by: nallcando | October 18, 2008 12:54 AM | Report abuse

Right genius, so after I have covered my nut, I'm going home and playing with my kids rather than killing myself so Obama can distribute my hard earned cash to ACORN and Radical Education Programs, like the one he supported with Ayres...I'll probably lay off 1/3rd of my employees- let Obama employ them, like FDR did in the last Depression....note I didn't call it the GREAT Depression- that one's coming soon to you and Obama-
Hey ShepherdMarilyn and Broedd, did you see the room service bill for Barack and Michelle at the Waldorf last night? Caviar and Champagne all the way! ______________________________________________________________________________________

Good you should cover your nut! with both hands, for they are doing your thinking for you...NONE of what you say is true, this and all your pathetic ravings have been vetted, yet your ADD is keeping you from learning...There is help for that, go and seek help!!!

Posted by: nallcando | October 18, 2008 12:53 AM | Report abuse

The sources for this story are Republicans.

Wouldn't it be a "game changer" if Powell unexpectedly endorsed McCain?

Indeed. It would be in the news for days.

Posted by: julieds | October 18, 2008 12:53 AM | Report abuse

Will you dumb people wake up to yourselves.

Posted by: shepherdmarilyn

Such language is counter-productive. I am sorry that we are sharing the planet with unconscious beings, but that's our lot in life. Some of them are out-right fascists. Some of them are merely racists. Some of them are just low IQ and cannot follow a logical consideration. Many of them rely on faith, and are taught at an early age, not to use the discriminative faculties.
Read this www.pocm.INFO
You will notice that this url touches upon widely held "belief's" but that the info on the url is, if it is true, and from the point of view of an anthropologist, it is true, then most people in our country are following a false teaching.
Accept that the average IQ is 100 and that the bell curve is operative and that they all may register to vote.

Happy day. Its a b*tch. Egalitarianism has a terrible price.
We get monsters leading morons by the nose, and egging them to beat the opponents followers into quiet submission, and to kill the other candidates.
So it goes.

Posted by: ottothewise | October 18, 2008 12:46 AM | Report abuse

ayers is a hero...
most were cowards...
he took a stand against an unholy war of genocide...millions killed, millions!

in 1776 they called people who blew-up/burned government institutions 'patriots'...

our government was being high-jacked by nixon, et al...our youth killed here and in 'nam for ideology based on death & evil...

he helped save many lives by helping ened the war, while killing no one...

Posted by: Arthur5 | October 18, 2008 12:43 AM | Report abuse

I still find it hard to forgive him for the Iraq fiasco. My opinion is that Powell is too entangled with the GOP establishment, and as a real diplomat will show non-committal admiration, veiled words of approval, but never open endorsement. Open endorsement would be very uncharacteristic.

Posted by: marcelli | October 18, 2008 12:41 AM | Report abuse

Colin Powell should endorse Obama because he knows Obama will be a great President.

Colin Powell should not support McCain because of the fact that McCain sold America out when he picked Palin and Powell knows this all too well. Palin is simply not qualified to be the VP pick of a 72 year old Presidential candidate.

Powell also should know that that the only way Obama can lose is because of a margin due to racism -which we should all hope does not happen.

Posted by: dougm2 | October 18, 2008 12:40 AM | Report abuse

If Powell was going to endorse Obama, why wait to Sunday. I believe he will say a lot of great things about both candidates and say why he likes Obama/Biden, what he likes about McCain, and leave it up in the air.

I hope I am wrong and he endorsed Obama. We need change, and we definitely never want to see Palin near the White House or in line to become president.

McCain, could have made it in if he choose a better running mate.

Obama/Biden '08

Posted by: seakayaker | October 18, 2008 12:39 AM | Report abuse

I find it hard to believe so many people are not willing to think through what happened during Colin Powell's time in the Bush Administration. It disturbs me very much they have such a bitter attitude about him, I have always held him in high respect, even when I disagreed with what he was doing.Having been raised an Army Brat I understand the respect for authority your commanding officer is afforded, even when you disagree with him. I feel his endorsement of Obama would really tip the scale and I hope he does
endorse him.

Posted by: vcstone1 | October 18, 2008 12:36 AM | Report abuse

I heartily support Obama, whether he is black or white because he is the right man for the job. Powell is a pandering fool who coming up through the ranks of the military ALWAYS had to please other white men. It took years but eventually he had lost all sight of making a decision that was really his own. The men he reported to were hopelessly corrupt and so he also became corrupt - due to his ambition to climb the ladder to the top - the white mans ladder - a ladder that most black men have little use for as it leads to a very empty place - which most black men have little use for.

Posted by: samai1 | October 18, 2008 12:34 AM | Report abuse

To: Real Brother here.

"Again, entirely too many Racists, White Supremacists and Black man hating lesbians are trying to suggest that if anyone Black votes for or endorses or supports Barack Obama then they are Racist".

I've seen you post this same thing over and over, on many different sites, for many different articles, over many months. I get and understand that you hate racism and discrimination and agree with you, but what is this nonsense about "black man hating lesbians"? You are
speaking out of both sides of your mouth.

You complain about racism and discrimination, and turn around and discriminate against gay people by characterizing lesbians as black man-haters.

Posted by: caroll1 | October 18, 2008 12:33 AM | Report abuse

Hey ShepardMarilyn-

Ayers got off like OJ got off- prosecutor blew it THEN, like OJ he confessed!!!!!! To the NY Times ON 9/11!!!!-
"I don't regret setting bombs" and "I feel we didn't do enough", and, when asked if he would "do it all again," as saying "I don't want to discount the possibility."
W. Ayers...
On ACORN- Sure paying a young man with cigarettes to register 72 times in Ohio is OK with you Marilyn but if successful, dilutes the votes of honest Americans- you don't care...
On Taxes-
"I find it very interesting that most of the pro McCain supporters miss the the very salient point:TO PAY MORE TAX YOU MUST EARN MORE MONEY." broedd2003
**********
Right genius, so after I have covered my nut, I'm going home and playing with my kids rather than killing myself so Obama can distribute my hard earned cash to ACORN and Radical Education Programs, like the one he supported with Ayres...I'll probably lay off 1/3rd of my employees- let Obama employ them, like FDR did in the last Depression....note I didn't call it the GREAT Depression- that one's coming soon to you and Obama-
Hey ShepherdMarilyn and Broedd, did you see the room service bill for Barack and Michelle at the Waldorf last night? Caviar and Champagne all the way!

Posted by: thecannula | October 18, 2008 12:31 AM | Report abuse

Powell would get a lot more attention if he endorsed McCain -- can you imagine the media frenzy. Hope he doesn't go there - but he's let this country down before.

Posted by: noGOP4me | October 18, 2008 12:31 AM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin would be second in line to the presidency if you vote that ticket. That's putting country first? McCain doesn't care about the country, he cares about being president. No one who cares about the country would select Sarah Palin to be second in line if they cared about the country. He was a political move to attract the right wingnut extremists.
It worked, they are all over the blogs.
Poor souls, they don't have a clue what they sow.

Posted by: amazedatitall | October 18, 2008 12:30 AM | Report abuse

Powell is a traitor. His speech at the UN explaining why we need to attack Iraq should be in the history books as the biggest lie ever made by a black man. It has cost us many lifes.

Posted by: ridagana | October 18, 2008 12:28 AM | Report abuse

Watch out for Palin/Joe the Plumber 2012!

Posted by: jfern03 | October 18, 2008 12:27 AM | Report abuse

If Powell endorses Obama -- there is a good chance he is doing it because of all the vile and bigoted robocalls, racist web-site material and fear-mongering mailings that have gone out recently and because of the personal smears by McCain and Palin. Also because of the nasty behavior of the crowds at McCain/Palin rallies, because of the choice of Sarah Palin -- but mostly -- because Colin Powell,like many decent Republicans, wants to try to get his Party back from the desperate Rovian monsters who seem to have taken it over.

Posted by: rebeccajm | October 18, 2008 12:27 AM | Report abuse

townerc001 - God is NOT a Republican (or a Democrat). And Christ would wash his hands of ever political leader we have. You lather bout "baby killers" but support a candidate and government that would provide medical care, food, clothing, and a home for a woman that would have that child. If that child is born handicapped, you do NOTHING! You and your conservative government and your Fundamentalist churches wash your hands of them, leaving them to care for that child as best they can. You stand by and allow families and marriages to fall apart because of the emotional toll. You squawk about paying the taxes necessary to educate and support that child. And, then, you turn around and blather about "ilife" and "baby murderers". What a hypocrite! And please spare us the Palin's, with their millions of dollars. They can afford things, extra help, medicare care, nurses and nannies, support, things that most of us dare not dream of. Jesus Christ condemns you for the hardness of your heart and your phony proclamations of "morality". Go to hell!

Posted by: mibrooks27 | October 18, 2008 12:23 AM | Report abuse

Someone wrote:

"Matter of fact, he would be a great Secretary of Defense in an Obama administration."


I prefer he become Secretary of the Motor Pool.

Posted by: jato1 | October 18, 2008 12:16 AM | Report abuse

Real Brother here.

Again, entirely too many Racists, White Supremacists and Black man hating lesbians are trying to suggest that if anyone Black votes for or endorses or supports Barack Obama then they are Racist and not judging Flavor Flav by his character but by the color of OJ Simpson's skin.

Its the hieght of hypocracy for Idiots to not have a problem with Powell being a puppet of George Bush but quitting when he realized it and yet chide him when he endorses the obvioulsy BEST candidate who just happens to be Black.

To try to fool Blacks into thinking that supporting Tiger Woods is Racist is not only lame its STUPID.

STOP IT.

TKCAL

Posted by: Realbrother0003 | October 18, 2008 12:15 AM | Report abuse

I've always thought that Secretary Powell was the one man who could have stopped us from going to war in Iraq. I'm not quite over that yet. His endorsement of Senator Obama would be his redemption as far as I'm concerned. Matter of fact, he would be a great Secretary of Defense in an Obama administration.

Posted by: BlueDog3 | October 18, 2008 12:12 AM | Report abuse

So let's see if Powell does endorse Obama, then according to that wingnut Congresswoman from MN, he's Un-American and collaberates with TERRIORISTS. I wonder if Palin will come out and diss him as some kind of Left wing Anti American, unPatriotic loon?
Of Course McCain will say how much he respects Powell, then will run to the bus and turn on the Robocall machine.

Posted by: sfilutze | October 18, 2008 12:12 AM | Report abuse

Who?


FREE AMERICA

REVOLUTIONARY (DIRECT) DEMOCRACY

Posted by: thc1138 | October 18, 2008 12:09 AM | Report abuse

I admire Powell for his independent and courageous stand before the United Nations way back when and his immediate resignation from the administration.

Correct me if I am wrong.

Posted by: jato1 | October 18, 2008 12:01 AM | Report abuse

Why are so many people in the US ignorant of their own history?

Bill Ayers was never convicted or even charged with any crime and as an observer of the day embroiled in the lunacy of the Vietnam invasion, I can say he has more moral standing than McCain who was dropping bombs on innocent civilians. The Weathermen just wanted to stop the carnage in a war that was illegal and already lost while McCain would have kept on the killing in a campaign that did kill over 1 million people.

People dont know because the GOP doesnt want them to.
The GOP is using tibits out of context, intentionally stirring up people.
Terrorist = not Doctor of Education.
Palling around = not meeting at a board meeting of a charity run by a Republican.

Posted by: ottothewise | October 18, 2008 12:01 AM | Report abuse

I believe Colin Powell's endorsement would be a critical factor for many who unfortunately have traditional concerns about an African-American being President.

During the Gulf War the public came to know General Powell and viewed him as an outstanding man, regardless of his color. I believe that he is the first American-American to totally destroy the barriers blocking acceptance for a non-white at a high government level. He extended his reputation as SecState, even if he did present the Bush Administration's position at the UN.

The admiration and respect I hold for Colin Powell is far higher than any other person in the Bush Administration and I believe a lot of other people feel the same.

His endorsement of Senator Obama, therefore, would go a long way in removing concerns that some people may have. I think that is important. It's important to Obama in his campaign and it is important for the country in reaching a point where the quality of the man is far more important than the color of his skin.

Posted by: KHMJr | October 17, 2008 11:58 PM | Report abuse

Why are so many people in the US ignorant of their own history?

1. Bill Ayers was never convicted or even charged with any crime and as an observer of the day embroiled in the lunacy of the Vietnam invasion, I can say he has more moral standing than McCain who was dropping bombs on innocent civilians. The Weathermen just wanted to stop the carnage in a war that was illegal and already lost while McCain would have kept on the killing in a campaign that did kill over 1 million people.

They only started after the Chicago police murdered a couple of black lads and got off and then the national guard opened up on students at Kent State in May 1970 and killed 4 of them for protesting against the war.

The only people hurt by the weathermen were weathermen.

2. ACORN is not involved in fraud. If anyone is being defrauded it is ACORN because by law they have to register every card filled in by voters. Do your homework.

For heaven's sake with the support of McCain over 4,200 US soldiers have been slaughtered and over 320,000 have permanent injuries while over 1 million Iraqis are dead.

Will you dumb people wake up to yourselves.

Posted by: shepherdmarilyn | October 17, 2008 11:49 PM | Report abuse

Obama is not our enemy. Powell is not our enemy. I have some breaking news and the names of real enemies:

The Taleban is a significant part of the insurgency, but there are a number of other significant players. Best known, of course, is al-Qaeda.

There's also the Hezb Islami network run by the former mujahideen leader Gulbuddin Hekmatyar as well as a grouping led by another Afghan military veteran, Jalaluddin Haqqani, whose men were linked to a deadly attack on the Indian embassy in Kabul this July. Then there is the Pashtun nationalism -- which often feeds into the Taleban -- is strong.

The Taleban spiritual leader, Mullah Omar, has repeatedly demanded that all 70,000 or so foreign troops leave the country.

Keep your eyes on the real enemies of the State. As Obama said, "We were distracted by going into Iraq"

Posted by: theodosia1 | October 17, 2008 11:43 PM | Report abuse

I would be very disappointed if Colin Powell endorsed Barak Obama for President. (But who really cares - I am one vote.) Rev. Steven Broden from Dallas made a point when he said that Martin Luther King said we should not judge a man by the color of his skin, but by the content of his character. He is African American and voting for McCain. There is a day when we will stand before God and we will be judged for our decisions. All of us!!! Charles Schweitzer, Nobel Peace Prize winner, BEFORE Roe vs. Wade said "If man loses reverence for any part of life he loses reverence for all of life." Obama has supported every form of abortion. Also, I wish W.P. would talk about Biden's income to his charitable giving in the last ten years. I heard it avg. $300 a year except last year it was $900. Do they really care about the poor and down trodden??? John McCain gave almost 30% of his income last year to charity. Over $105,000...That is only a small measure of the many things that this great man, McCain stands for! And do not get me started on Sarah Palin. She really is too great for corrupt Washington, But we need her and other great people to step up to the plate before it is too late. John 3:16. God help us I pray daily!!!

Posted by: graceiamsaved | October 17, 2008 11:42 PM | Report abuse

JOHN MCCAIN, TRAITOR TO HIS COUNTRY, COLLABORATOR WITH THE ENEMY, MILITARY DISGRACE.
Ted Sampley, a Vietnam Veteran and former Green Beret, issued a CHALLENGE to John McCain "If you can show us that the information presented in our mailer is untruthful . . . we will Stand Down" This CHALLENGE was issued during an interview with INSIDE EDITION on January 17, 2008.
John, family members of Vietnam POW/MIA(s) have been waiting for more then 14 years for you to have the courage to face them eye to eye in front of the American Public - Here is your opportunity for some "STRAIGHT TALK." Stop hiding behind your fabricated "War Hero" persona. You know we can prove your collaborations with declassified government documents . . . It is time for the American people to get to know the REAL John McCain - the John McCain that the POW/MIA families witnessed during the 1991-93 US Senate Select Committee on POW/MIA Affairs .
Bring It On John! HERE IS OUR NUMBER 252-527-0442
*********** ************* ************** *********** ***********
Activists accused McCain of stonewalling the release of POW records because they contained evidence he had collaborated with the North Vietnamese.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoseBNetlEk

Posted by: popasmoke | October 17, 2008 11:31 PM | Report abuse

Go here for some a scary Sarah Palin video:
http://tinyurl.com/spookee
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Posted by: LisaJM | October 17, 2008 11:27 PM | Report abuse

I am saddened when I read many of the posts here. Powell is a good man who was caught in the Bush/Chenney Globalized web of deceit and power. Powell's endorsement of Obama would come out of the qualities that we treasure most in our best leaders.

In a nutshell, Obama has the intellect and poise to lead the country in a new direction, and given our time in history and the challenges we face, he could easily become a president equal to FDR and Lincoln.

Change is difficult for many people, particularly Conservatives. Think of the root word: conserve; they would prefer to hang to the past, but it's evident that the present is pushing us at lightning speed to future. We need Obama.

Could anyone reasonably imagine McCain and Palin in the same arena, as futurists with imagination? I can't; McCain and Palin represent what is either dying or dead.

Long live the Ideals of the USA.
Vote Obama!

Posted by: Doctor_Jon | October 17, 2008 11:27 PM | Report abuse

the lack of business knowledge here astounds me...

revenue/sales NE profit!

most business owners will pay themselves well, which lowers profit...
hire family members
company vehicles
etc.

most small busness's are sole proprietorships, sub-C, etc. in which all profits roll over to the owner, the company pays NO tax...

250k/yr puts you in the top 2% of all earners...so it stands to reason that 98% of all small business's make less than 250k...

Posted by: Arthur5 | October 17, 2008 11:25 PM | Report abuse

thanks harried

Posted by: officermancuso | October 17, 2008 11:21 PM | Report abuse

"Unlike the democrats who torn Governor Palin's four limbs apart after crucifying her, and now they are doing it to plumber Joe. Heathens."

Oh jeez, no one is tearing limbs from anyone, they are just exposing frauds.

Posted by: plaza04433 | October 17, 2008 11:14 PM | Report abuse


So, If 4.1 million firms generate 694 Billion dollars and 1/3rd close within 2 years, one can assume that the other 2/3 generate the majority of the revenue-
600 billion divided by 4.1 million x 2/3=
$219,780 mean revenue. One can imagine that all small businesses are doing at least as well as minority small businesses.
A profit of 250,000 doesn't seem too farfetched for a significant percentage of small businesses that employ people, since one person ebay sellers are included in these numbers!

Keep it up Obama- I'm one small businessman who will cut payroll AND revenue AND hours worked rather than give my hard earned dollars to ACORN and Ayers related education programs- raise taxes higher and we'll have 12% unemployment before long!


Posted by: thecannula | October 17, 2008 10:03 PM

--------------------------

You obviously are not a business man (or woman) if you don't understand the difference between $250,000 in revenue and net income/profits of the same amount.

Obama said 98% of all small business have a net income of under $250,000 and he is right.

Do your math, listen to what is being said. Educate yourself.

Posted by: keithrjackson | October 17, 2008 11:14 PM | Report abuse

Some will say, if you support our troops, you must support McCain. But what about Lynndie England? And what about the military culture which made her possible?
My father was a captain in the Army reserves, my uncle and my grandfather were colonels in the U.S. Army - my uncle served in Korea and Viet Nam and my grandfather served in both world wars. I know a thing or two about military culture.
I have a very high level of respect for our military's professional officer corps.
It serves no good purpose to beat our national breast as to how great we are, when we can't solve simple problems of military discipline which shame us in front of the civilized world.

posted by: officermancuso
_____________________

I totally agree Manny.

Posted by: harried | October 17, 2008 11:13 PM | Report abuse


I heard a woman from Minnesota unshure of the loyalty of our congress mwn and women.

One more step toward fascism, aint it?

Posted by: wrock76taolcom | October 17, 2008 11:12 PM | Report abuse

"If he didn't agree with Bush and Cheney's policy on Iraq, he should have resigned."

He did resign....DOH!!

What is with all these McCain supporters, do thay all have ADD???

Posted by: plaza04433 | October 17, 2008 11:10 PM | Report abuse

" There is so much hate coming out of McCain/Palin campaign and directed to Obama.
Sounds like incitement to violence.
Whatever happened to civil discourse!!

McCain/Palin=bridge to nowhere"

That sounds hate to me. Covering the history of a shady grey history of a presidential candidate is not hate, unless there is something to hide. In fact there are a lot of things for Obama to hide.

Unlike the democrats who torn Governor Palin's four limbs apart after crucifying her, and now they are doing it to plumber Joe. Heathens.

Posted by: townerc001 | October 17, 2008 11:10 PM | Report abuse

Hey djgreene

You said, "Obama has deliberately neglected blacks and "black issues" in his campaign, with the full understanding of the black community that this is necessary for him to get elected..."

Obama addressed problems in the black community if, and only if, the blacks are having a problem with home foreclosures, having problems with reasonable health care, need an extra $4000 annually for college education, expect no increase in income taxes if they make under $250,000/year, need clear air to breath, need fuel efficient cars, need jobs, I can go on.

I apologyze if I misunderstood your post.

Posted by: theodosia1 | October 17, 2008 11:10 PM | Report abuse

An endorsement from Powell would be like an endorsement from Ahmed Chalabi. Both are just weapons of mass destruction wacko nuts who got us into Iraq for phony reasons.

Obama did not buy that Iraq invasion routine at the beginning and that's what made him famous. Obama should keep away from Powell and tell him to give his endorsement to Dick Cheney.

Posted by: adafs | October 17, 2008 11:10 PM | Report abuse

townerc001

god is responsible for all that happens
ie, floods, tidal waves, etc.
baby's die in them

therefore god is a baby killer
so is bush
and mccain bombed villages
what's your point?

Posted by: Arthur5 | October 17, 2008 11:10 PM | Report abuse

MsRita wrote, "I am a Registered Democrat but I watch FOX News"

It's always a good plan to "prove" your politics by listening to the opposition.

MsRita is an example of why Obama/Biden are going to win this time around.

They will win, that is, provided that you get off your butt and vote!

Posted by: officermancuso | October 17, 2008 11:10 PM | Report abuse

I've not the foggiest idea whether General Powell will endorse Obama or not. What I do know is that Obama would do well to seek Powell's counsel in addition to that of Dick Lugar, Gen. Jones, and Joe Biden. This General, who served as Secretary of State, is extraordinarily well grounded in foreign affairs, both militarily and diplomaticly. His integrity is unchallenged.

He might well have been President, had he chose that path. I would surely have preferred voting for him over Gov. Bush in 2000, had I only been given the chance. We certainly would not have had this stupid war in Iraq.

Before all else, Colin Powell is a soldier, carrying within him the burden of a soldier's sense of duty, of loyalty, of obedience to the chain of command. Yes, he might have resigned, but that is not what soldiers do.

Posted by: simpsonth | October 17, 2008 11:08 PM | Report abuse

Krishna wrote:

"He was an ineffective Secretary of State."

My friends who worked at State from 1969 through 2006 say that he was the best SecState of all the ones they ever worked for. And they are registered Ds.

They rate their bosses as administrators, as advocates in Congress, and as diplomats.
Powell was the best administrator, as good as anyone with Congress, and in the big leagues with Baker and Schulz as a negotiator.

The man single-handedly held off the dogs of war for more than a year and he had two honorable options: one was to quit, and the other was to try to change the Admin from within as the only rational voice there.

He insisted on CIA briefings before he went to the UN because he was suspicious, but Tenent assured him the evidence was real and presented a lengthy carefully constructed story. Powell insisted Tenent sit behind him at the UN so that Powell would not be out there alone if his worst suspicions proved true and the evidence was not what it seemed from the CIA presentation.

All of this has been reported on "FrontLine" more than once, and has been repeated in other credible narratives.

Yes, Powell was hoaxed by our own intelligence agency and no, the CIA skewing the evidence to fool our own SecState was not something we could have anticipated.

Powell, in my eyes, remains a fine American. I hope he can serve the next Admin in a useful capacity.

Posted by: mark_in_austin | October 17, 2008 11:07 PM | Report abuse

If Powell endorses Obama the Republicans will say it's worthless because they're black. That'll only work with the dumbest and most racists of people, but that's McCain and Palin's base.

Posted by: light_bearer | October 17, 2008 11:04 PM | Report abuse

Wow! I am a white woman, and my vote for Obama was sealed the day McCain cynically selected an ignorant, unqulaified, parochial minded, religious fanatic as his running mate to "secure" the female vote. He secured mine all right - for his opponent. But the point of my post is this.
Powell's endorsement may not help Obama, but it won't hurt him either. What is interesting in reading all these comments is how poisonous and hateful and acidic they are. This is corrosive to constructive debate, base on the part of the people posting them, and not at all the same as rational discussion. Get off the name calling and racial hate please.

Posted by: lhen1 | October 17, 2008 11:03 PM | Report abuse

Its time of all good men to stand up for what's right. Hopefully Gen. Colin Powell will do what many Republicans won't do...SUPPORT THE BEST MAN... with all the lies, hate and racism put out by the supporters of McCain, a victory by McCain will tear this country apart...I URGE ALL REPUBLICANS TO PUT "COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY."

Posted by: WVUWEIRTON | October 17, 2008 11:02 PM | Report abuse

jchalla, great post.

Posted by: officermancuso | October 17, 2008 10:59 PM | Report abuse

OBAMA plus PELOSI plus REID?!!!
NO CHECKS & BALANCES...
NO BALANCE.
OBAMA IS A SHAMELESS MAN WHO RESORTS TO VOTE STEALING, PANDERING TO SOCIALISTS AND NATIONAL TERRORISTS AND LYING TO THE PUBLIC IN ORDER TO BUY THEIR VOTES - IF HE DOESN'T BUY YOUR VOTE, HE'LL SIMPLY RAISE THE DEAD AND PLACE THE NAMES OF KINDERGARTNERS ON THE VOTING ROSTER.
OBAMA IS THE WORST OF THIS NATION'S POLITICAL POWERMONGERS AND THE MOST DANGEROUSLY AMBITIOUS.
This from a Diehard Democrat with zero racist intentions (thought I better include the racist note, since every time someone criticizes "The One" they received the "racist" attack.) My heart goes out to a simple man who asked a simple question of Obama - and is now being publicly flogged by the liberal bloggers who believe that Obama is above scrutiny.
NOTE TO COUNTRY:
Criticism is Not Racism. Obama PLEASE apologize to the United States for allying with American terrorist Ayers, say you are sorry for funding ACORN... come on Obama show a little Integrity.

Posted by: DemocratForPeace | October 17, 2008 10:59 PM | Report abuse

Of all the Generals, Colin Powell is absolutely the Generaliest.

Posted by: Meepo | October 17, 2008 10:57 PM | Report abuse

Powell's endorsement will have very little impact. He lost his credibility when he went to UN and supported the theory of Iraq getting nuclear waepons. He did this to stay in power as Secretary of State. If he didn't agree with Bush and Cheney's policy on Iraq, he should have resigned. He cling on to power until he was forced out by Bush and Cheney. I lost all respect for him. Even though I may not support all of Bush's policies, I have more respect for him than I do for Powell. I think most of Americans are in the same boat.

Posted by: jchalla | October 17, 2008 10:55 PM | Report abuse

theodosia1:

I don'tunderstand how you see hate in my post. It's a very unfortunate reality that the Obama campaign has to be sensitive to scaring whites off that he will pursue some "black agenda," to put it as mildly as possible. There is no "black agenda", only the "best" agenda for America. How do you think many white voters would feel if they frequently saw Obama surrounded by blacks? Should that affect their opinion or vote- absolutely not. Would it? Absolutely yes.

Posted by: djgreene | October 17, 2008 10:50 PM | Report abuse

Your speculations are not worthwhile. If you wait a couple of weeks you will find out who will win.

Why don't you spend your time identifying policies and analysing them?

Posted by: robertjames1 | October 17, 2008 10:49 PM | Report abuse

"Jesus Christ endorsing Obama"?

Read your Bible carefully to see if Jesus Christ endorsed baby murderers.

Blasphemy.

Posted by: townerc001 | October 17, 2008 10:49 PM | Report abuse

Whatever happened to civil discourse!!
Posted by: wrock76taolcom
____________________________

JERRY SPRINGER?

Posted by: harried | October 17, 2008 10:46 PM | Report abuse

I'm a Republican. I urge everyone to watch these comments, and make a careful choice for president.

Some will say, if you support our troops, you must support McCain. But what about Lynndie England? And what about the military culture which made her possible?

My father was a captain in the Army reserves, my uncle and my grandfather were colonels in the U.S. Army - my uncle served in Korea and Viet Nam and my grandfather served in both world wars. I know a thing or two about military culture.

I have a very high level of respect for our military's professional officer corps.

It serves no good purpose to beat our national breast as to how great we are, when we can't solve simple problems of military discipline which shame us in front of the civilized world.

Posted by: officermancuso | October 17, 2008 10:43 PM | Report abuse

Powell is a coward who's life is based on political calculation, he does not deserve anyone's admiration or gift of redemption. At this stage of the race, his endorsement is shallow and gratuitous.
Posted by: ButchDillon |

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DITTO!!!

Posted by: harried | October 17, 2008 10:41 PM | Report abuse


There is so much hate coming out of McCain/Palin campaign and directed to Obama.

Sounds like incitement to violence.

The McCain/Palin/Lieberman campaign discourse is sliding into what is very commonly accepted in third world. countries....

Whatever happened to civil discourse!!

McCain/Palin=bridge to nowhere

Posted by: wrock76taolcom | October 17, 2008 10:41 PM | Report abuse

Hey mibrooks27

That's the kind of stuff start civil wars.

Posted by: theodosia1 | October 17, 2008 10:39 PM | Report abuse

I tend to agree with the comments of GeorgHerbet. Colin Powell was never asked to be the valiant and heroic warrior of the people he served before his involvement in the invasion of Iraq. He knew the truth, but he was afraid to stand alone and speak it to the nation. Instead, Powell chose to server his commander, serve his party and serve a destructive ideology. He has truly lived a life of denial since his breach with morality, even to this day. Colin Powell will only act when he feels on safe terms with the outcome of his choice of action. He could have endorsed Barack Obama long ago. Now, as then, he knows the truth in the situation of this presidential run and yet he is waiting until he knows he cannot make a mistake. Powell is a coward who's life is based on political calculation, he does not deserve anyone's admiration or gift of redemption. At this stage of the race, his endorsement is shallow and gratuitous.

Posted by: ButchDillon | October 17, 2008 10:36 PM | Report abuse

The Palin branch of the Republican Party has really gone around the bend. I happened to watch the Chris Matthews Show tonight, where he was interviewing a Congresswoman from Minnesota, who called for investigations of members of Congress and the Senate for "unAmerican" and "unpatriotic" leanings. Are these hysterical nutballs returning to McCarthyism?

Posted by: mibrooks27 | October 17, 2008 10:35 PM | Report abuse

Look he's 4,000,000 plus dead in his battlion. The man is not a MAN, and certainly not a General. He knew it was BS,, he said so at the time, but the Clarence Thomas House Nigra is a hard one to kill. He, couled have stood up...would it have mattered? We will never know. But Adam Clayton Powell has dishonered my grandpa Octave!

Posted by: harried
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it should be 4,000,001 ;) racist

your grand pa dishonored himself in the shower intentionally dropping the soap...

Posted by: Arthur5 | October 17, 2008 10:32 PM | Report abuse

Powell has gone to the mat so many times for the repubs. He bit his tongue, heck he swallowed his tongue, repeatedly for the sake of the incompetent-in-chief and the sleazy wing of the repub party. At last he found a socially and politically correct to bu**-**ck them. I say: It's not too soon!

Posted by: RegisUrgel | October 17, 2008 10:32 PM | Report abuse

by supporting obama he IS putting the troops first...
Posted by: Arthur5 |
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Look he's 4,000,000 plus dead in his battlion. The man is not a MAN, and certainly not a General. He knew it was BS,, he said so at the time, but the Clarence Thomas House Nigra is a hard one to kill. He, couled have stood up...would it have mattered? We will never know. But Adam Clayton Powell has dishonered my grandpa Octave!

Posted by: harried | October 17, 2008 10:27 PM | Report abuse

Collin Powell does not command much respect now. He was an ineffective Secretary of State. His endorsement will hit the headlines and will get rave reviews from the lefty media. However the average Joes do not care about Powell’s opinion.

Posted by: krishna5002 | October 17, 2008 10:26 PM | Report abuse

Not to beat a dead horse, but a Powell endorsement will effectively crush the McCain/Palin campaign. Foreign policy was one of the last vestiges that McCain had left, and that will be gone when Powell backs Obama. Powell, like the article states, is one of the last few people from the Bush Administration that is still admired by the American public. He's also one of the few people that Republicans, Democrats, and Independents all admire. That kind of support is impossible to come by in today's political climate.

And for the all the people harping on and on about Obama's alleged ties to terrorists and terrorist organizations, don't you think this would've come up in his background check when he became a U.S. Senator? All public officials in the Federal Government (especially high-levels) have to go through a pretty thorough background investigation in order to work. Obama is no different. If he really was in concert with any radical organizations, it would've come out by now. So, seriously, drop the charade. If you are really going to argue about why he shouldn't be president, please give a valid reason based on policy. The fear mongering has worn out it's welcome.

Posted by: ezcheese81 | October 17, 2008 10:25 PM | Report abuse

Gee- if Colin Powell endorses Obama it may help Obama finally win---

the Black vote!

What a coup for him to finally break through to that group.

Posted by: dyinglikeflies1 | October 17, 2008 10:23 PM | Report abuse

Hey djgreene

I am familiar with your hate group and it's platform.

You should review W.E.B. Dubois' Talented Tenth.

Posted by: theodosia1 | October 17, 2008 10:22 PM | Report abuse

birvin9999

take the pointy white hat off, the cross fire is over....

all the fact that 90%+ of the blacks voting for obama shows is that they are typically smarter than your average white cracker

Posted by: Arthur5 | October 17, 2008 10:20 PM | Report abuse

Now is the time to come out of the closet!
Posted by: RegisUrgel
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Hey sweetie, wanna to dance? Got your vaseline jar?

Posted by: harried | October 17, 2008 10:18 PM | Report abuse

Glad your editorial board finally got it's head out of its ass and endorsed Barack Obama, now that it's completely politically safe and 99.9% certain that Obama's going to win.

if you were aiming for an insignifant gesture -- you achieved it smashingly!

Posted by: leed1 | October 17, 2008 10:18 PM | Report abuse

by supporting obama he IS putting the troops first...

mccain would get them killed for folly...
just like bush

he sold his own men out and collaborated with the enemy...
'manchurian candidate'

bush & obama will be bunking together in hell haunted by the ghosts of x00,000's of iraqi women & children

a vote for mccain is a vote against America

Posted by: Arthur5 | October 17, 2008 10:18 PM | Report abuse

General Colin Powell's greatest crime, I suppose, is having argued that before you deploy an armed force, you have a plan for bringing it back home.

Posted by: officermancuso | October 17, 2008 10:17 PM | Report abuse

Gee, what a surprise. Like Pavlov's slobbering dogs, another black guy shows the possibility of supporting another black guy. Nothing like racism. Lets face it, 99 percent of blacks would vote for O.J. Simpson. Reason: skin color.

Posted by: birvin9999 | October 17, 2008 10:17 PM | Report abuse

To georherbert who are you to call Colin Powell a traitor a man that served his country with honor and did what was ask of him in the military and in the crooked Bush administration. His leaving the administration tells me he could not serve the crook.Evan as an Obama supporter I would never speak this way of John McSenile.
Connie from Indiana

Posted by: grams1944 | October 17, 2008 10:14 PM | Report abuse

The real question is: How many more of these closet Obama supporters out there? Warren Buffet, Chris Buckley, Christopher Hitchkens, Colin Powell...

We now know the agreement between the U.S. and Iraq on a long term presence in Iraq is a modified version of Obama's plan -the agreement calls for the military to leave by 2011.

Now is the time to come out of the closet!

Posted by: RegisUrgel | October 17, 2008 10:12 PM | Report abuse

Colin Powell is a coward and a traitor. He is co-responsible for the deaths of thousands of innocent people.
He should, in short, be in prison.
An endorsement from him is tantamount to an endorsement from George Bush.
Posted by: GeorgHerbet
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I agree! Any General that places politics above the welfare of his soldiers is SCUM!!!

Posted by: harried | October 17, 2008 10:11 PM | Report abuse

Following debates between the two rivals in which the Arizona senator has appeared angry at times, 46 percent consider him hot-tempered, more than triple the 13 percent who say so about Obama.

"He'd be a little nerve-racking to have in the White House, jumping real fast," Darlene Finley, 48, an Obama-leaning independent from Ossineke, Mich., said of McCain. "When you're talking about war, that's something you don't want to do, jumping real fast."

Since September, McCain has lost ground on nearly every quality tested in the poll, including lower scores for being likable, decisive, honest, competent, intelligent and inspiring.

Posted by: Arthur5 | October 17, 2008 10:09 PM | Report abuse

If Powell endorses Sen. Obama it's all over for McCain-Palin for all of the reasons stated in the article. Anyone who thinks otherwise hasn't been living in the civilized world the last few years. This is the only endorsement in modern politics that will have a major impact on an election.

Sure Powell was duped by Bush/Cheney along with most of congress about WMD, lets face it we all were trusting that the secrets the White House had were convincing and that our president wouldn't lie or deceive us. Powell did not have any independent evidence to doubt what he was told. You have to remember that the White House and the Pentagon Neo- Conservatives were working together on WMD as an excuse to attack Iraq and the State Department was kept out of the loop. Powell was purposely used at the UN to read the lines that were scripted by the White House because he was one of the most respected Americans in the world. Powell was a good soldier who followed orders from a commander in chief who at the time he had a lot of respect for. Unfortunately the Commander in Chief has since lost all respect from nearly all of us and I'm sure Powell too.

Posted by: ktodack1 | October 17, 2008 10:08 PM | Report abuse

CORRECTION:

When I get the fourth Red Stripe in my belly I tend to misspelling, and spit too!
So here's my edited repost:

It Black and White folks,,anyone that pretends otherwise is a phony!
GO OBAMA,,you are smarter, younger, and most of all,,you don't have to carry the MOOSE LADY back to the tundra!

Posted by: harried | October 17, 2008 10:07 PM | Report abuse

Colin Powell is a coward and a traitor. He is co-responsible for the deaths of thousands of innocent people.

He should, in short, be in prison.

An endorsement from him is tantamount to an endorsement from George Bush.

Posted by: GeorgHerbet | October 17, 2008 10:06 PM | Report abuse

theodosia1 wrote, "The Vietnam Vets were determined that our future men and women in uniform will not be treated as we were. I am proud that our military is now treated with respect and honor."

I agree, provided that we make exceptions for the Lynndie Englands in their midst. And the George W. Bush's at their head.

Posted by: officermancuso | October 17, 2008 10:05 PM | Report abuse

I would be surprised at a public Powell endorsement of Obama. Obama has deliberately neglected blacks and "black issues" in his campaign, with the full understanding of the black community that this is necessary for him to get elected. I strongly agree, and suspect the day after any Obama public apperarance with a black leader his poll numbers would plummet. This is truly unfortunate, but political reality. I would love to hear Dionne or other WP columnists address this issue, whether Obama politically could ever publicly enlist the expertise of any other black person.

Posted by: djgreene | October 17, 2008 10:04 PM | Report abuse

An Obama endorsement by Colin Powell would be huge and Obama deserves it.

A McCain endorsement by Powell would be blatantly irresponsible because McCain, at the age of 72, picked Palin as his VP choice. There is no way that Powell could endorse McCain with a straight face because McCain sold us out with his Palin pick. End of story.

Please General Powell do the right thing and endorse Barack Obama.

Posted by: dougm2 | October 17, 2008 10:04 PM | Report abuse

National Business Association-

Small business statistics highlighted in the 2005 Small Business FAQ include:

· Small businesses represent 99.7 percent of all employer firms.

· Over the past decade, small business net job creation fluctuated between 60 and 80 percent.

· Small businesses generate more than 50 percent of the nonfarm private gross domestic product (GDP).

· Two-thirds of new employer establishments survive at least two years after start-up, and 44 percent survive at least four years.

· Small businesses employ half of all private sector employees.

· Very small firms with fewer than 20 employees spend 45 percent more per employee than the largest firms to comply with federal regulations.

· Minorities own 4.1 million firms that generate $694.1 billion in revenues and employ 4.8 million workers.

· Women own 6.5 million businesses that generate $950.6 billion in revenues, and employ 7.2 million workers.

· In 2004, an estimated 580,900 employer firms opened while an estimated 576,200 closed.


So, If 4.1 million firms generate 694 Billion dollars and 1/3rd close within 2 years, one can assume that the other 2/3 generate the majority of the revenue-
600 billion divided by 4.1 million x 2/3=
$219,780 mean revenue. One can imagine that all small businesses are doing at least as well as minority small businesses.
A profit of 250,000 doesn't seem too farfetched for a significant percentage of small businesses that employ people, since one person ebay sellers are included in these numbers!

Keep it up Obama- I'm one small businessman who will cut payroll AND revenue AND hours worked rather than give my hard earned dollars to ACORN and Ayers related education programs- raise taxes higher and we'll have 12% unemployment before long!


Posted by: thecannula | October 17, 2008 10:03 PM | Report abuse

It Black and White folks,,anyone that pretendends otherwise is a phony!

GO OBAMA,,you are smarter, younger, and most of all,,you don't have to carry the MOOSE LADY back to the tundra!

Posted by: harried | October 17, 2008 10:02 PM | Report abuse

harried, who is the "jerk with the gun"? Enquiring minds need to know.

Posted by: officermancuso | October 17, 2008 10:01 PM | Report abuse

Obama should now be running ads around the country with generals saying why he is their choice for next c-i-c. Powell would be good to add there, but even without Powell the ads will be powerful

Posted by: lostintranslation | October 17, 2008 10:01 PM | Report abuse

Hey officermancuso,

I am a Vietnam veteran as is Colin Powell. He was wounded. I was not.

We learned that our American citizens were against the Vietnam war. We were despised and targeted for hate by our American countrymen when we returned home from Vietnam.

I wrote to my brother and told him to get rid of his uniforms before he returned to the United States.

The Vietnam Vets were determined that our future men and women in uniform will not be treated as we were. I am proud that our military is now treated with respect and honor.

Posted by: theodosia1 | October 17, 2008 10:00 PM | Report abuse

nagamas1, the problem is, when you own an arsenal of nuclear weapons and an arsenal of intercontinental ballistic missiles, you can't afford to be wrong even once. Careful, cautious scholarship is the order of the day.
Posted by: officermancuso
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FROM THE JERK WITH THE GUN!!!

Posted by: harried | October 17, 2008 9:54 PM | Report abuse

wishful thinking my friend..powell will never endorse socialist Hussein.

Posted by: son_yong | October 17, 2008 9:50 PM | Report abuse

nagamas1, the problem is, when you own an arsenal of nuclear weapons and an arsenal of intercontinental ballistic missiles, you can't afford to be wrong even once. Careful, cautious scholarship is the order of the day.

Posted by: officermancuso | October 17, 2008 9:49 PM | Report abuse

Blaming Powell for the Irap war is ridiculous. The administration used him to get and sell the WMD crap in front of the UN because of his international and domestic appeal.
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So who's to blame, the Pimp or the Ho?

Posted by: harried | October 17, 2008 9:47 PM | Report abuse

theodosia1, I'm sold on the Powell doctrine. I think that's why the right hates him, I guess they wanted a march into Bagdad, and he convinced Bush the Wiser not to do it.

I'd sure rather have Colin Powell as Secretary of State than William Kristol.

Posted by: officermancuso | October 17, 2008 9:46 PM | Report abuse

I am sad to hear comments accusing Colin Powell of complicity in the Iraq war. Put yourself in his position. You were a General in the army, and you were given evidence by the CIA, military intelligence (they themselves acting under duress from Cheney and co to produce these evidence), who you should thrust. Colin Powell resigned from his position for his believe that the Iraq war was wrong. What more can you expect?
Regardless who you support, General Colin Powell (Ret), I salute you!

Posted by: nagamas1 | October 17, 2008 9:46 PM | Report abuse

Secretary Powell was a professional soldier for 35 years, during which time he held myriad command and staff positions and rose to the rank of 4-star General. His last assignment, from October 1, 1989 to September 30, 1993, was as the 12th Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the highest military position in the Department of Defense. During this time, he oversaw 28 crises, including Operation Desert Storm in the victorious 1991 Persian Gulf war.

At the age of 49, Powell became Ronald Reagan's National Security Advisor, serving from 1987 to 1989. He retained his Army commission (he was a Lieutenant General at the time of his nomination) while serving as National Security Advisor. After his tenure with the NSC, Powell was promoted to 4-star General under President George H.W. Bush and served as Commander-in-Chief (CINC) of the United States Army's Forces Command (FORSCOM), overseeing all Army, Army Reserve, and National Guard units in the Continental U.S., Alaska, Hawaii, and Puerto Rico.

Colin L. Powell was nominated by President Bush on December 16, 2000 as Secretary of State. After being unanimously confirmed by the U.S. Senate, he was sworn in as the 65th Secretary of State on January 20, 2001.

Posted by: theodosia1 | October 17, 2008 9:45 PM | Report abuse

It's almost as bad as a "BUSH ENDORSEMENT"!!!

Posted by: harried | October 17, 2008 9:44 PM | Report abuse

McCain in April 08 declared that there had been "great progress economically" during the Bush years. On more than one occasion, he diagnosed Americans' concerns over the dismal U.S. economy as "psychological." (Phil Gramm, McCain's close friend and economic adviser supposedly excommunicated over his "whiners" remarks, is back with the McCain campaign full time again.) McCain, a man who owns eight homes nationwide, in March lectured Americans facing foreclosure that they ought to be "doing what is necessary -- working a second job, skipping a vacation, and managing their budgets -- to make their payments on time." And when all else fails, McCain told the people of the economically devastated regions in Martin County, Kentucky and Youngstown, Ohio, there's always eBay. McCain doesn't understand our tanking economy because it doesn't affect him.


*The $100 Million Man*
Courtesy of his wife Cindy's beer distribution fortune (one her late father apparently chose not to share with her half-sister Kathleen), the McCains are worth well over $100 million. (In the two-page tax summary she eventually released to the public, Cindy McCain reported another $6 million in 2006.) As Salon reported back in 2000, the second Mrs. McCain's millions were essential in launching her husband's political career. Unsurprisingly, the Weekly Standard's Matthew Continetti, who four years ago called Theresa Heinz-Kerry a "sugar mommy," has been silent on the topic of Cindy McCain.

*The Joys of (Eight) Home Ownership*
While fellow adulterer John Edwards was pilloried for his mansion, John McCain's eight homes around the country have received little notice or criticism. His properties include a 10 acre lake-side Sedona estate, euphemistically called a "cabin" by the McCain campaign, and a home featured in Architectural Digest. The one featuring "remote control window coverings" was recently put up for sale. Still, their formidable resources did not prevent the McCains from failing to pay taxes on a tony La Jolla, California condo used by Cindy's aged aunt.

*The Anheuser-Busch Windfall*
As it turns out, the beauty of globalization is in the eye of the beholder. While John McCain apparently played a critical role in facilitating DHL's takeover of Airborne (and with it, the looming loss of 8,000 jobs in Wilmington, Ohio), Cindy McCain is set to earn a staggering multi-million dollar pay-day from the acquisition of Anheuser-Busch by the Belgian beverage giant, In Bev. As the Wall Street Journal reported in July, Mrs. McCain runs the third largest Anheuser-Busch distributorship in the nation, and owns between $2.5 and $5 million in the company's stock. Amazingly, while Missouri's politicians of both parties lined up to try to block the sale, John McCain held a fundraiser in the Show Me State even as the In Bev deal was being finalized.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxT0s_I5WtA

Posted by: DrainYou | October 17, 2008 9:42 PM | Report abuse

Someone said "Christopher Buckley looks like an upfront man of honour compared to Powell's Johnny-come-lately endorsement."

And I suspect that Christopher Buckley would gob-smack them.

Posted by: officermancuso | October 17, 2008 9:42 PM | Report abuse

Blaming Powell for the Irap war is ridiculous. The administration used him to get and sell the WMD crap in front of the UN because of his international and domestic appeal.

Powell is a loyal friend to the Bush family that he even delayed his resignation only after Bush had secured his secind term. It is very hard that type of integrity in these days specially in the political arena. PEACE

Posted by: Xanadu2 | October 17, 2008 9:37 PM | Report abuse

Colin Powell. YUCK!
NOW, he cares! My what a brave little soldier! After it's pretty certain the Obama will win the presidency Powell dips his toe in the water and feels it's safe to endorse Obama.

What calculating, cowardly conduct ... Christopher Buckley looks like an upfront man of honour compared to Powell's Johnny-come-lately endorsement.

The man who lied at the U.N. for all the world to see and literally, along with Blair, blaring at his side, made Bush's war on Iraq possible. Without their loud support he could not have pulled the deaths of over 4,000 soldiers and a million Iraqis and a country destroyed off.

Obama DOES NOT need him. I wish he would say to Powell, "Thanks, But NO Thanks" , TOO LITTLE, TOO LATE.

Posted by: strohblumen | October 17, 2008 9:36 PM | Report abuse

Why wouldnt Powell endorse Obama...
Any right thinking human being will endorse Obama...
Only people with debased and erratic mind, racists, dreamers and scare mongers will endorse John McShame.

Posted by: roberta2 | October 17, 2008 9:35 PM | Report abuse

Ah, Henry Kissinger, that beloved figure from our past.

At a time when the hard right wanted more Viet Nam, more tension with the Soviet Union, my recollection is than Kissinger was a wise man. Played off China against the Soviet Union. Assumed that we were pulling out of Viet Nam, though we had to cover our retreat, not against attacks from North Viet Nam, but against attacks from the right.

I've always been partial to politicians who speak the language well. English isn't even that man's language, and he speaks it better than any candidate for president in the USA during my lifetime.

Needless to say, I like Henry Kissinger.

Posted by: officermancuso | October 17, 2008 9:35 PM | Report abuse

Hey officermancuso:

Then Chairman of the Joints Chiefs of Staff Colin Powell, when asked about his military strategy against the Iraqi army in the Persian Gulf War of 1991:
"First we're going to cut it off, then we're going to kill it."

First, Obama's position on using military force seems to be taken from the Powell Doctrine.

The Powell Doctrine:

After the end of Persian Gulf War in 1991, Colin Powell, then chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, outlined his vision for efficient and decisive military action. His plan is now referred to as the Powell Doctrine, although there is not an actual formal document named as such.

Essentially, the Doctrine expresses that:

1. Military action should be used only as a last resort; and only

2. If there is a clear risk to national security by the intended target;

3. The force, when used, should be overwhelming and disproportionate to the force used by the enemy;

4. There must be strong support for the campaign by the general public; and

5. There must be a clear exit strategy from the conflict in which the military is engaged.

I will provied more on Powell shortly.

Posted by: theodosia1 | October 17, 2008 9:35 PM | Report abuse

To Officermancuso: I do not apologize for my humble correspondence,but I like 90% of the black citizens welcome the chance to have a president with a brain and even temperament, thank you.Connie from Indiana

Posted by: grams1944 | October 17, 2008 9:33 PM | Report abuse

lynettema

Ayers and Dohrn pale next to Henry Kissinger
Just think of Chilke or East Timor.
Or as they are not Americans, their deaths mean nothing.
(ands who is with Henry-- Sarah and John)

Posted by: edlharris | October 17, 2008 9:25 PM | Report abuse

Powell admires Obama's courage and ambitions, not necessarily his policies. An outright endorsement will be disastrous for him regardless if Obama wins or loses in November.

Posted by: Hurt2008 | October 17, 2008 9:25 PM | Report abuse

harried asked, "Well Occifa Mancuso, do de phrase words "DIRTBAG COP" ring a note!"

If it do, I'll never tell!

Posted by: officermancuso | October 17, 2008 9:20 PM | Report abuse

The MSM and everyone else have "explored these connections" and made their findings months ago. Right Wing fanatics just didn't like the facts, so they have been making up their own.


Dear Officer Mancuso, re: my post on Obama's connection to radicals and killers, please see Bill Ayers, Bernadine Dohrn, Jeremiah Wright, and Rashid Khalidi, et al. I realize the MSM isn't interested in exploring these connections or asking any tough questions of Obama, but at least you are. There's plenty of record evidence on these undesirables. I commend your curiosity and interest.

Posted by: lynettema | October 17, 2008 9:20 PM | Report abuse

grams1944, let's get real. African Americans are not going to vote 90 per cent for Obama because they've studied his position on global warming. They see a chance for a breakthrough in US race relations. White folks such as your humble correspondent see the same thing.

There is nothing wrong with recognizing that black citizens of the USA may vote in an "identity" manner in 2008.

Posted by: officermancuso | October 17, 2008 9:18 PM | Report abuse

If Obama is judged on serving on a board with Bill Ayes are the students that Mr.Ayes taught terrorist also? Connie from Indiana

Posted by: grams1944 | October 17, 2008 9:18 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, but Powell's endorsement means zip, nada, zero and everything else you can come up with for meaningless.
Whatever credibility Powell had he lost in the sand of Iraq.
Until Powell and Rice can explain why everything they said about Hussein was absolutely correct before the drumbeat to war began I don't want to look at or hear a word from either of them.

Posted by: sbundley | October 17, 2008 9:17 PM | Report abuse

blah, blah blah..., This way, Powell shows he waited for the most opporune moment to take his revenge. That makes him a wise man, and it vindicates him.
Posted by: RegisUrgel
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He has to fall on his sword if he wants his honor back!!!

Posted by: harried | October 17, 2008 9:17 PM | Report abuse

Powell showed the World and America that he will lie to your face like he did at the United Nations when he lied about WMD's in Iraq. He lost all creditable with everyone. Now yes he will suck up to Obama and might even use the race card to get in Obama/Biden Cabinet. Look Powell is washed up as a Leader and he knows it but like Connie Rice both are out of work. I hope Obama doesn't run his Administration with Bush puppets who have brought disgrace and were involved in helping thousands of soldiers die for Oil.

Posted by: qqbDEyZW | October 17, 2008 9:15 PM | Report abuse

ivan, bill ayers, rev wright, etc have been investigaated ad nauseum. There is no evidence of any wrongdoings or connections that mean anything. Tyr as you and the rest of the righties might, there is nothing there. Face it, in real life Obama is boring. A family man who was on an education committee funded by a close friend and contributor of ronald reagan's with other republicans on the board. None of them complained about ayers. Just get over it, will ya?

Posted by: mikel7 | October 17, 2008 9:13 PM | Report abuse

Profanity never strengthens an argument, it expresses the speaker's frustration at not being able to express himself as forcefully as he would like in ordinary language.
Posted by: officermancuso
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Well Occifa Mancuso, do de phrase words "DIRTBAG COP" ring a note!

Posted by: harried | October 17, 2008 9:11 PM | Report abuse

I can not believe people are implying that black American's are endorsing or voting for Obama just because he is black.That is like McSenile thinking if he put a women on the ballet, women would vote for them.Remember black American's have vote all these years for white presidents.So this year as an old white women I have already voted for Obama /Biden and proud of it. Connie from Indiana

Posted by: grams1944 | October 17, 2008 9:10 PM | Report abuse

Mostly, Powell is helping himself. He found a perfectly acceptable way to get back at the Bush administration, who hurted him and his reputation so badly. Remember, Bush, or his handlers, had Powell read a speach full of lies and incorrect facts at the UN. They essentially s***ed Powell and discarded him like an old w**re. He can't be happy about that. This way, Powell shows he waited for the most opporune moment to take his revenge. That makes him a wise man, and it vindicates him.

Posted by: RegisUrgel | October 17, 2008 9:09 PM | Report abuse

Normally I would doubt that Powell would give an explicit endorsement. It's not in his military "obey the boss" mindset as Bush is still his commander-in-chief (sorry, but there are still a lot of us who cannot forgive him for his UN sin - NOT ERROR - seeing its devastating results we are witnessing now). But since McCain has intentionally broken away from Bush, there is a chance for that to happen.

However, I'm not sure I care to see his endorsement. It will just give some people more firepower to continue to bring up the race card thing.

Posted by: KT11 | October 17, 2008 9:09 PM | Report abuse

theodosia wrote, "I formerly worked for the federal government. Creditable and respectable political appointees reduce the turbulence with the rank and file career federal employee."

Not to take a cheap shot, but the rank and file career federal employee is neither underpaid, nor lacking in health insurance, nor lacking in pension. Having taken those three cheap shots, I agree - people don't realize that much of what the federal government does isn't done by George W. Bush, it's done by civil service folks who do the best they can with what they're given.

I particularly remember being a public housing manager in a small city. My civil service protected boss was pressuring me to evict as many "deadbeats" as possible, but if an evicted tenant got hold of the local paper, all bets were off, it was me against the world. That was because he'd get a call from one of the elected people who were *his* boss, telling him to hang me out to dry.

Government is a nasty business.

Posted by: officermancuso | October 17, 2008 9:08 PM | Report abuse

Typical Powell wait until the jury is in and then make a commitment. This guy is such a looser and to think I once was hoping he would run for President so I could vote for him.....then I read about his My Lai coverup, then he sat in front of the world and lied about Iraq and knew he was lying. Then after he lied and knew he had been lying and was lied to by Bush he remained in his position. That is not patriotism that is opportunism. Powell is as much of a fraud as Obama. When Obama is chanting his latest mantra.."We can't do any worse then they are doing" all I can say is Oh yeah? Just wait and see how bad it gets under Obama.....and Barry, Yes it can get worse, but of course you will have the great fortune of being abel to blame it on Bush for at least three years is my guess then people will wise up to the silliness of who and what you are and that you really are a no ideas guy. Oh yeah one more prediction..We will still be in Iraq in 2012 I would guess 30 to 50 thousand troops still in Iraq. There is no way the military is going to let Barry pull the troops out after the investment already made. Oh yeah one other thing no real Health care plan.

Posted by: stephen3 | October 17, 2008 9:06 PM | Report abuse

And if Powell does endorse Obama, he'll be eaten alive by his fellow Repubs, and will be called a "traitor" and a "terrorist" like they have Obama. They'll turn even on him, I guarantee you. The Repubs have lost their minds at the thought of a President Obama. Also, I can see McCain watching Meet The Press, who to paraphrase Lyndon Johnson as he watched Walter Cronkite report bad news from the Vietman War:

"If I've lost Colin Powell, I've lost this election."

Posted by: SGall23241 | October 17, 2008 8:59 PM | Report abuse

Dear Officer Mancuso, re: my post on Obama's connection to radicals and killers, please see Bill Ayers, Bernadine Dohrn, Jeremiah Wright, and Rashid Khalidi, et al. I realize the MSM isn't interested in exploring these connections or asking any tough questions of Obama, but at least you are. There's plenty of record evidence on these undesirables. I commend your curiosity and interest.

Posted by: ivan9856 | October 17, 2008 8:57 PM | Report abuse

BlueTwo1, powerful argument.

Posted by: officermancuso | October 17, 2008 8:56 PM | Report abuse

Posted by theodosia1:
> My top 5 Dream Team based on Issue Priority:
> President: Barack Obama (D)
> V-President: Joe Biden (D)
> Sec. Defense : Robert Gates (R)
> Sec. State :Sec. Colin Powell (R)
> Sec. Treasury:Hank Paulson(R)then W. Buffet

Interesting list. I too hope Obama goes for some cross-polination in his cabinet.

Buffet doesn't want the job, I don't think. If Paulson's willing to work under Obama, it would add continuity at a critical time for the economy. That's a win if Obama can get others in his party to back him.

As for Powell, I think it would be very good for Obama's administration to offer him a comeback. But personally I wonder if he wouldn't make a better Sec. Defence this time around... he wouldn't have to shoulder the baggage of his last Sec. State appointment, annnnd.... Just think of how the Intelligence Community would be quaking in their boots to think that the guy they screwed would be their new boss... makes me happy just thinking about it. He could *really* get some things accomplished there. No more bs coming out of the taxpayer funded "intellegence" community -- they work for us, and their screwup has cost us lives, money, and reputation. Time for a bigger shakeup there than just re-organizing like Bush did when he created Dep. Homeland Security.

Posted by: bricedue | October 17, 2008 8:56 PM | Report abuse

Anyone that thinks that Powell's endorsement will not be a plus for Obama lives in fantasyland.

I can't wait to listen the the diehard Republican supporters of incompetent government talk about how Bush actually deserves the credit -after Obama starts to get things back in shape.

Posted by: plaza04433 | October 17, 2008 8:54 PM | Report abuse

Powell went to the UN to deliver Bush's "evidence" that Saddam Hussein was a hair's breadth away from attacking the world with WMDs. Powell was dubious. He was also an ex-military-man and team player. He insisted that CIA Director George Tenet sit behind him on camera to imply that the CIA, which cooked up the "evidence," was taking full responsibility for what Powell claimed. At the time, I was of the opinion that Bush's claims and the saber-rattling was over the top and believed it was a mistake to invade Iraq. Then Powell spoke at the UN. I was still uneasy, but, with Powell's endorsement, I grudgingly accepted the inevitable. And so, $1,000,000,000,000.00 later, the Iraq War continues, despite no WMDs being found and Saddam and his vicious sons being dead. Osama bin Laden continues to live. 4000+ U.S. military members have been killed. Scads of Iraqi citizens are holed up in other countries to avoid revenge killings by the insurgents. Afghanistan, where the 9/11 hijackers trained, is slowly being got under control, again, of the Taliban. Truly a great success.

Posted by: BlueTwo1 | October 17, 2008 8:53 PM | Report abuse

Maybe we are going to have a reverse "Bradley effect" in this election, because so many voters, myself included, are so very tired of the race issue. Elect Obama, put the race issue to bed.

Maybe then we can begin to have a reasonable discussion about policy.

Posted by: officermancuso | October 17, 2008 8:53 PM | Report abuse

Republicans with experience are endorsing Obama?

McCain is through!

Posted by: kevinschmidt | October 17, 2008 8:52 PM | Report abuse

Your fourth factor -- innoculating Obama on national security issues -- is the crucial one.

In 2004, just before the election, bin Laden issued a 'press release' addressed to the American people. Bush's poll numbers jumped 4-6% thereafter. That's huge in a close election. It could happen again to McCain's advantage. (From OBL's perspective, this is perfectly rational. He must find it easier to recruit young Muslim males to al Qeda and its affiliates when his 'clash of civilizations' world-view is unwittingly reinforced by his enemy, and its actions make it easier for him to direct primitive hatreds against 'the far enemy, the Christian crusaders'.

Powell's endorsement would limit the damage a last-minute OBL 'intervention' might cause Obama in the election.


Posted by: wsToronto | October 17, 2008 8:51 PM | Report abuse

Profanity never strengthens an argument, it expresses the speaker's frustration at not being able to express himself as forcefully as he would like in ordinary language.

Posted by: officermancuso

wrong...
sometimes 'nice' words never adequately describe the absurdity/horro or the situation...or confer the approriate level of disgust...

Posted by: Arthur5 | October 17, 2008 8:49 PM | Report abuse

bassicliam: I second that emotion on love234america.

If I said that I like Desmond Tutu, he/she would say, it is because he is black.

If I said that I like Nelson Mandela, I guess that too must be because he is black.

Michael Jordan, yep, because he is black.

Jesus Christ, same reason....ooops, they havent yet taken the blond hair off of him, moving on...

If ANYONE is racist it is those who presume that because African Americans align themselves with someone who shares the same hue of themselves, that it is because of the color as opposed to the character.

Using that logic, then all whites only select white leaders because they are white. Sound's REALLY stupid doesn't it.

I guess we should consider the source, and presume that he/she is not racist, just stupid.

Posted by: concernedaboutdc | October 17, 2008 8:45 PM | Report abuse

powell, very smart man...
he only served bush because he was asked and is a patriot, and thought he could help by being a moderate voice in the midst of maniacs...

Powell was the subject of controversy in 2004 when, in a conversation with British Foreign Secretary, Jack Straw, he reportedly referred to neoconservatives within the Bush administration as "fuxxxxx crazies".[30] In addition to being reported in the press (though generally, the expletive was censored in the U.S. press)....

Posted by: Arthur5 | October 17, 2008 8:45 PM | Report abuse

Profanity never strengthens an argument, it expresses the speaker's frustration at not being able to express himself as forcefully as he would like in ordinary language.

Posted by: officermancuso | October 17, 2008 8:44 PM | Report abuse

Thanks officermancuso:

I formerly worked for the federal government. Creditable and respectable political appointees reduce the turbulence with the rank and file career federal employee.

The wars and financial problems demand precise subject matter knowledge. I will feel more secure.

Posted by: theodosia1 | October 17, 2008 8:43 PM | Report abuse

Here would be an interesting topic for conversation: "Why did Colin Powell deliver the speech he gave to the UN about Iraq?"

Was he misinformed?

Was there something defective in his understanding of what it means to serve honorably in an administration?

I don't know the answer. I'm thinking out loud.

Posted by: officermancuso | October 17, 2008 8:41 PM | Report abuse

I remember in the early days of the Bush (is profanity allowed here?) admin, being really impressed with Powell and the fact that he was a military guy with a really good sense of intelligence - it gave me some hope for the government. Wrong. Powell had the good sense to get out early; I'd love to see him play a part in the Obama administration. I am not anti-military, just anti-STOOPID.

Posted by: mike21 | October 17, 2008 8:40 PM | Report abuse

The endorsement of Powell is like an endorsement from a manufacturer of cigarette tobacco.


Posted by: lennyjazz | October 17, 2008 8:39 PM | Report abuse

love234america writes: I believe that this nation is divided as it has never been divided in its history, not even the Civil War or Vietnam War. There are so many angry Americans, fueled by the radical press. What has happened to our once wonderful country? The media has gone to hell; they no longer report the news but they "make" the news. Our young people are being brainwashed as is happening in communist countries. Yes, the U.S.A. is going downhill and it is not because of economics but it is the press and the ethics and "let government take care of me" attitudes. If I were younger, I certainly would leave this country as I no longer believe that we are a democracy.

+++++++++++++++++++

First, America's press is hardly radical. In fact it's so tame and politically correct as to be almost sickening. Second, your country has been run into the ground time and time again by Republicans who fold to ultra-conservative pressure and it's been getting worse since Vietnam (blame Lyndon Johnson and Richard Nixon). Third, America is not a free-market society and never has been, however it is a long way from socialism. If there are so many good Christians in America, how come you don't take care of your weak and meek, as Jesus says to do?

Last, your comment that Powell will endorse Obama because he's black is stupid and racist. What is wrong with you? Love234America? You don't love, you hate.

Posted by: bassicliam | October 17, 2008 8:35 PM | Report abuse

Dear Fix:

Powell has been a chronic foot-dragger on important issues both in and out of the military, from his support of military discrimination against gays (which led to the ridiculous compromise of Clinton's Don't Ask Don't Tell Policy) to his support for the ruinous invasion of Iraq (waving his little vial of white powder in front of the U.N.).

Powell is strictly an establishment guy, who has always played it safe, never putting himself on the line.

Why would he bother to go out on a limb now for Obama?

Why not just wait until after the election, and say how impressed he is with whoever wins?

What a boring topic to devote your column to!

Posted by: HughBriss | October 17, 2008 8:34 PM | Report abuse

My mom, received a robo-call this evening. She was more offended and annoyed than anything else. Maybe McCain didn't realize it, but in 2008, most American's don't appreciate receiving calls with a computer at the other end. Unlike me, who, according to Palin, am in an Anti-American city (DC), my mom is in the heartland, so she is, I guess, More American, which, perhaps is why they called her.

Question is, how, on earth, did they get that unlisted number?

Why do you think they have the 1-800-DONOTCALL list?

Yet another bad idea from the McCain campaign.

Posted by: concernedaboutdc | October 17, 2008 8:33 PM | Report abuse

What heinous crime would Obama have to commit to get his supporters to wake up?

Posted by: ontheblvd | October 17, 2008 8:33 PM | Report abuse

Michele Bachmann said on Hardball today that Obama is anti-American. She also said that liberals and leftists are also anti-American. She even said that the press should do an expose to find out how many anti-Americans serve in Congress.

Robo calls and now a Republican ad linking Obama to Atta who attacked us on 9/11 need to be discredited.

Republicans continue to say that Obama is anti-American, or that he is the same as Osama Bin Laden, as said the head of the Virginia GOP. McCain should be taken to task on this by the media until he stops it.

Posted by: edzo2 | October 17, 2008 8:32 PM | Report abuse

I think Obama is already over the line - still some doubt. With a Colin Powell endorsement, he will be sprinting over the line!

Regardless who he endorses, General Colin Powell is a man of honor and integrity. He was deeply hurt when he discovered that he was given false information about the existence of WMD by the Bush/Cheney administration, and I feel so sorry for the man.

Posted by: nagamas1 | October 17, 2008 8:31 PM | Report abuse

nice list, theodosia1. I'd prefer Paul O'Neill to Paulsen (I admit I'm splitting hairs here) and Buffet over either of them.

Posted by: officermancuso | October 17, 2008 8:31 PM | Report abuse

Oh please. The only endorsement that matters is the endorsement of the media. If Charles Manson endorsed Obama, it would be spun into a victory for his campaign. If Bill Clinton came out an endorsed McCain, it wouldn't make the news.

Don't think so? Look at how differently the Foley case was handled by the media and how the Mahoney story was handled. The Foley case was made national news to ensure Democratic victory in 2006 and the Mahoney story is being suppressed for the same reason in 2008.

Lizza made me laugh out loud by claiming that a Powell story would "simply too juicy a story for the media to ignore". Any story that helps Obama is "simply too juicy a story for the media to ignore" and any story that helps McCain is "simply a story for the media to ignore".

The Post is a disgrace.

Posted by: bobmoses | October 17, 2008 8:28 PM | Report abuse

AS i do have the highest respect for MR POWELL. I do believe he did knowly give false info to the UNITED NATIONS, Leading to war with IRAQI.

Thus his endorsement or any one else,s will not inpress me, if you are attentive. you need not others views.

Posted by: dv1236 | October 17, 2008 8:27 PM | Report abuse

My top 5 Dream Team based on Issue Priority:
President: Barack Obama (D)
V-President: Joe Biden (D)
Sec. Defense : Robert Gates (R)
Sec. State :Sec. Colin Powell (R)
Sec. Treasury:Hank Paulson(R)then W. Buffet

Posted by: theodosia1 | October 17, 2008 8:21 PM | Report abuse

ivan9856 wrote, "It is hard enough for me to accept the fact that most Obama supporters do not seem to care about Obama's dangerous ties to radical, anti-American zealots and killers."

ivan, perhaps you or one of your co-thinkers could enlighten us as to who these radical folks are. I'd appreciate your help in my efforts to understand your post. Perhaps you can also explain just who was killed by these people you claim Obama was associated with.

Or maybe you're just forwarding trash you got from some trash source.

Posted by: officermancuso | October 17, 2008 8:18 PM | Report abuse

I hope Powell actually endroses Obama this time... we have heard this rumor more than once before.

America is better than the smears and lies we hear coming from some Republicans including the McCain campaign.

It's truly disgusting and I expect Obama to win by a landslide.

Posted by: stevecoe | October 17, 2008 8:17 PM | Report abuse

The tip-off is that Colin Powell is wearing a blue tie in your photo. ;-)

Posted by: TomJx | October 17, 2008 8:16 PM | Report abuse

It is hard enough for me to accept the fact that most Obama supporters do not seem to care about Obama's dangerous ties to radical, anti-American zealots and killers. Now Powell doesn't care? I hope you are wrong. Since when do respected veterans advocate for candidates for elective office that would befriend such enemies of the state or agree to negotiate with foreign terrorists without pre-condition? I'm going to be sick now....

Posted by: ivan9856 | October 17, 2008 8:12 PM | Report abuse

reading some messages are unbelieveable! so many racists. so when a white man endorses McCain is because he's white? if he doesn't endorse McCain he no longer is a honorable officer? i used to think some Dem are too liberal but now these Rep are truly, bone-chilling scary. racist + dishonoring an officer who received great respects (yes, even til this day from socialism, communism, dictatorship countries) all over the world. he did made a wrong judgment on the war in Iraq but he came out and admitted unlike others who are still trashing our government. nope, i'm not an African American. it doesn't take a skin color to respect another human to say the least.
lifetime accomplishments won't be dismantle by ignorant prejudice. a different race will dominate throughout timeline in history but that doesn't change the basic moral which distinguishes us apart from other species.
:)

Posted by: abc2008 | October 17, 2008 8:07 PM | Report abuse

love234america
________________

wrong
1/2 white
1/2 african black
4 generations deep on both his materal and paternal parents sides...

the 'arab' name?
his grand father converted to islam while serving in morroco? in the british army

no arab blood at all, not that it matters...

btw you racist: the CMH winner was of 'dirty arab' descent...

Posted by: Arthur5 | October 17, 2008 8:06 PM | Report abuse

love234america:

Neither "Barack" or "Obama" are of Arab origins idiot. In fact "Barack" is a Hebrew name.

And he is 1/2 white, but frankly I don't give a sh**. He's intelligent, moral and genuine.

I'm very proud of my American heritage and likely just as proud that, in this election, rational, TRUE Americans that truly love their country might actually maginalize idiots like you that have no clue for what our country stands.

Posted by: wessia1 | October 17, 2008 8:05 PM | Report abuse

thegreatpotatospamof2003
__________________________________

it can't get much worse...

palin's new 'witch' interrogation technique...replaces water boarding...
throw the guy in water, if he floats he's a terrorist, if he sinks doesn't matter...
learned from her idol the witch hunting minister from africa...

she's the anti-christ

Posted by: Arthur5 | October 17, 2008 8:04 PM | Report abuse

Show me one person who votes for someone because of an endorsement.

The only people who will be impressed by this is the media, who naively think their own endorsements mean something.

Posted by: info42 | October 17, 2008 8:04 PM | Report abuse

thegreatpotatospamof2003

it can't get much worse...

palin's new 'witch' interrogation technique...replaces water boarding...
throw the guy in water, if he floats he's a terrorist, if he sinks doesn't matter...
learned from the witch hunting minister from africa...

she's the anti-christ

Posted by: Arthur5 | October 17, 2008 8:03 PM | Report abuse

The one man who could have stopped the trillion dollar mistake, failed to, and we are supposed to think of him favorably? What kind of judgement does this man have? He should have quit the moment he was asked to lie. Instead, and worse, he lied, then quit, much, much later. An endorsement from him for me is weakly neutral at best.

Posted by: millennium1 | October 17, 2008 7:59 PM | Report abuse

aredee, hate to let you know, but Barack Hussein Obama is the color black, but he is l/2 white, then mostly Arab, very, very little African. His father (note the three Arabic names) ancestors were Arab. So quit calling him African American; he is absolutely not that.

Posted by: love234america | October 17, 2008 7:58 PM | Report abuse

Personally,,, I think this man could have stopped the mess we are in today. He could have said "NO" to sending 4,000+ kids to die in a battle where the enemy was not. But he buckled under, A GENERAL HE'S NOT,,,I will not fight in front of a COWARD!

Posted by: harried | October 17, 2008 7:57 PM | Report abuse

Since when would putting your country first and doing what's in your nation's best interest by endorsing Obama be considered treason?

Some of you people are nuts...

---------
And some think the same about those who support Obama, without acknowledging the truth of Tony Rezko.

Sorry, it's a two way street, and it will get worse for him, and the people who think like you.

Posted by: thegreatpotatospamof2003 | October 17, 2008 7:57 PM | Report abuse

love234america

it's not the press, it's people like you and the far right...

they know what's best foreveryone and are erroding away our freedoms and destroying the country...people SHOULD be pissed off...the right is destroying our country and taking the world with them...

we are mad BECAUSE we are Americans..
last time we were this pissed off was 1776...

Posted by: Arthur5 | October 17, 2008 7:57 PM | Report abuse

To gpernot:

I think you need a dictionary. Since when would putting your country first and doing what's in your nation's best interest by endorsing Obama be considered treason?

Some of you people are nuts...

Posted by: wessia1
_________________
becasue he thinks he's smarter than powell
when in reality he's be spit shining the good generals shoes...

it would kill him working for a black man...

Posted by: Arthur5 | October 17, 2008 7:54 PM | Report abuse

I believe that this nation is divided as it has never been divided in its history, not even the Civil War or Vietnam War. There are so many angry Americans, fueled by the radical press. What has happened to our once wonderful country? The media has gone to hell; they no longer report the news but they "make" the news. Our young people are being brainwashed as is happening in communist countries. Yes, the U.S.A. is going downhill and it is not because of economics but it is the press and the ethics and "let government take care of me" attitudes. If I were younger, I certainly would leave this country as I no longer believe that we are a democracy.

Posted by: love234america | October 17, 2008 7:54 PM | Report abuse

To gpernot:

I think you need a dictionary. Since when would putting your country first and doing what's in your nation's best interest by endorsing Obama be considered treason?

Some of you people are nuts...

Posted by: wessia1 | October 17, 2008 7:52 PM | Report abuse

I knew Powell was unpopular on the far right. I've been surprised at the amount of vitriol aimed his way in these comments from the left, and I'm not often surprised in politics.

My first reaction is to think that this is not a good sign, that partisans for the left in an election they will very likely win are out for blood, rather than aiming to govern by way of a civil consensus.

Robespierre comes to mind.

Posted by: officermancuso | October 17, 2008 7:51 PM | Report abuse

Real Brother here.

Many of the Racists, White Supremacists and Black man hating lesbians will argue that its "Racist" for Colin Powell as a Black man to endorse a Black man (Obama).

Need I remind you IDIOTS! that the Racists, White Supremacists and Black man hating LESBIANS!! who have endorsed McCain and Palin ARE WHITE?!!!

Powell didn't endorse Alan Keys, Jesse Jackson,Cynthia McKinney,Harold Ford or any other BLACK candidate.

Please miss us by trying to change the definition of "racism"(which is defined as the HATRED of one Race by Idiots who reside in another).

TKCAL

Posted by: Realbrother0003 | October 17, 2008 7:50 PM | Report abuse

on the spectrum of honor

on one end powell/obama, the other bush/mccain/cheney

better to have not served like obama, than dishonorably like bush and mccain
awol
collaboration
forrestal

cheney, a joke, 5 deferrments...

Posted by: Arthur5 | October 17, 2008 7:50 PM | Report abuse

Powell did not agree with the invasion of Iraq and publicly said so. Then some White House pressure and a turnabout including taking the White House lies to the UN. Then he resigned and his name became dirt with supporters of the war cause he resigned and with protesters of the war cause he caved in and lied. He did not go public with the pressures the WH put on him, he pretty much stayed quiet. It will be interesting to see his endorsement if he gives one. GW Bush sunk himself, now we'll see how McCain or Obama fares with Powell. Speculation is just....speculation. The GW Bush administration was bad to Powell, does he see McCain in a better light, or will he endorse Obama cause of what he endured from the Repub White House in the past? If he does publically endorse one or the other, Powell will definately stir the waters.

Posted by: leah1946 | October 17, 2008 7:46 PM | Report abuse

gpernot,

What a nut you are. Treason? Racial? You sound like your nutty party and the rest of "Pro-America" America. It is time to cast your lot back into the darkness from which you sprang. Obama wins period. Get over it.

Posted by: ObamaWins1 | October 17, 2008 7:46 PM | Report abuse

How about some fun - I vote we get Bill Ayers and the Reverend Wright to endorse McCain and Palin. That ought to stir up something

Posted by: aredee | October 17, 2008 7:46 PM | Report abuse

mccain was an Officer...yet sold his hnor and men out for food...coward/traitor

Powell will do what's best forhis Country once again...endorse Obama in order to save us from the 'domestic enemies' hell bent (and to great effect already) on destroying Her...

do the math...
Powell, or 5 deferrments cheney...

Posted by: Arthur5 | October 17, 2008 7:46 PM | Report abuse

Real Brother here.

I thought Powell already endorsed Obama, just as Condi Rice did by calling him after his Passport was breached and by turning McCain down when he asked her to be his VP.

All we need is to Clarence Thomas to be the one to swear Obama in as he takes the oath of office to be the 44th President.

Can you imagine, his wife, his kids, Condi, Colin and Justice Thomas? America would finally havfe lived up to its creed.

TKCAL

Posted by: Realbrother0003 | October 17, 2008 7:46 PM | Report abuse

love234america: Dangerous words - look at your genetic origins and you'll find roots back to central Africa, you might even find you're related to Barack !

Posted by: aredee | October 17, 2008 7:44 PM | Report abuse

I have the utmost respect for General POWEL as an officer, and unfortunately also consider his civilian job as a failure. He will be well advised to abstain rather than do something that might be considered a treason or a racial move....
General, Sir please remember you are an OFFICER...

Posted by: gpernot | October 17, 2008 7:42 PM | Report abuse

Like some of the other posters here I don't put too much stock in endorsments, but I do think that a Powell endorsement would be valuable. Obama is going to win the election but his bigger challenge will be to unite America and solve some extremely serious long term problems. Some endorsements by long time Republicans would go a long way towards allowing conservatives to unite behind the new President.

It is interesting how little Powell's reputation was hurt by his involvement in the run up to the Iraq invasion. Perhaps his resignation helped his reputation, but I also think he seemed genuinely remorseful about his roll in convincing the American people that the invasion was about WMD. It is certainly true that as a General he should have known that the intel he was presenting was highly questionable, but he may have accepted the administrations intel without question because he still actually trusted the Bush administration at the the time.

I would like to see Powell endorse Obama and I would like to see other highly place Republicans do the same. If we do not unite this country to solve our very serious energy/economic problems, as well as ending our unbearably costly war on terror, our children will grow up in a world where America is remebered as the country that used to be the land of opportunity.

Posted by: bjuhasz | October 17, 2008 7:42 PM | Report abuse

I have the utmost respect for General POWELand unfortunately also consider his civilian job as a failure. He will be well advise to abstain something that might be considered a treason or a racila move....
General, Sir please remember you are an OFFICER...

Posted by: gpernot | October 17, 2008 7:41 PM | Report abuse

Certainly Powell will endorse Obama; he's black.

Posted by: love234america | October 17, 2008 7:40 PM | Report abuse

Colin Powell is everything that the Bush administration has not been. I hold him in the highest regards. He is a strong leader with a balance of compassion, no wonder he parted ways with Bush. He is the only Republican that I would have voted for president. That not being the case I am voting for Obama.

Posted by: egghd1697 | October 17, 2008 7:37 PM | Report abuse

If Powell indeed endorses Obama, I will vote for Obama in spite of his having the support of an unindicted war criminal. Although Powell did sit up the night before in the Waldorf Astoria excising the most obvious and egregious of Bush/Cheney/Wolfowitz' lies, his editorial pen ran out of ink far too early, and he still went before the UN the next day. He should have resigned and said, "I cannot betray my country and the world in this manner."

But I'll still vote for Obama. And if a Powell endorsement helps a few hapless souls out there who still can't see straight vote for the man who would have thought better of the idea of invading, well I guess that will be a helpful thing for the country, and I welcome it.

Posted by: B2O2 | October 17, 2008 7:35 PM | Report abuse

If Obama were worth a nickel, he would have called for an international tribunal to put Powell and the rest of these maggots on trial for war crimes in Iraq.

Posted by: torro67 | October 17, 2008 7:35 PM | Report abuse

If Powell will endorse Obama, it will be a news and it will do more good to Powell than Obama. Because, Powell has sold himself like a slave to the gang of Bush-Cheney and Rumsfeld. They used him upto the end of his popularity and dumped him when found him useless. Powell could have been our President, if he would have decided to stand up to Bush-McCain and right wing goons, but he surrendered and accepted the powerless position as the Secretary of State to wash their dirty lenin. The other skilled person Condi Rice has not still learned any lesson from the humiliation of Powell and remained slave of this gang till todate. Obama has not to learn or gain from these slaves.

Posted by: citysoilverizonnet | October 17, 2008 7:30 PM | Report abuse

Yes, Powell was lied into supporting the Iraq War. He fought, internally, as well as he could, but was ganged up on by Rumsfeld and Cheney.

He was disrespected and not included in the planning of the war or in strategy. His endorsement of Obama would be the final referendum upon the worst Administration in our Country's history.

Yes, Powell made mistakes, but he could not stop this war. He was pushed out and marginalized. His mistake was to be a good soldier when he was a civilian. Despite all of that, as a Democrat and Veteran I would respect the endorsement.

Posted by: mbshults | October 17, 2008 7:30 PM | Report abuse

I wish someone would write an add-on applet for WashingtonPost.com and TheFix which filters out posts that use an epithet to describe someone or some point of view the poster disagrees with.

What passes through that filter would make interesting reading.

What wouldn't pass through it is poisoning political discourse in the USA.

Posted by: officermancuso | October 17, 2008 7:26 PM | Report abuse

As much as this endorsement will help Senator Obama, in the long run it may well do much more for General Powell than for Obama.

Posted by: floridabornandbred | October 17, 2008 7:25 PM | Report abuse

As a former Army officer, I used to look up and respect General Powell in admiration for his leadership and intelligence. I would look forward to attending the Armed Forces Communications and Electronics Association (talk about military / industrial complex) every time he was to speak in the DC area.

Like the once respected John McCain, Powell, too, sold out to Cheney and lied before the world at the UN about made up "intelligence" of WMD in Iraq.

I wouldn't give the man any more respect than I would the war criminals Cheney, Bush and Rove. His endorsement of Obama wouldn't impress me at all. Like Oliver North before him, he's a traitor to his country and a disgrace to the uniform.

Posted by: coloradodog | October 17, 2008 7:23 PM | Report abuse

Well, he was sure impressive at the UN when he was holding that "little vial"...

Posted by: sam51 | October 17, 2008 7:23 PM | Report abuse

"Powell's endorsement is not worth nearly as much as the WP's endorsement. No one expected the WP to do that." -- 12oreo

Not quite, 12oreo. No one who knows how right-wing the Post editorial page has become expected an Obama endorsement. But most Americans still think of the Washington Post as Katharine Graham's newspaper and would expect it to endorse the Democrat as a matter of course.

Also, the Post's endorsement doesn't mean diddly-squat, any more than the endorsement of the New York Times or any other newspaper.

Posted by: lydgate | October 17, 2008 7:21 PM | Report abuse

The one thing that seems to be missed as a potential benefit to a Powell endorsement is that it could open the door as being okay for other Republicans to endorse Obama. There are still many who never endorsed McCain, including Sen. Hagel. A Powell endorsement could open that door.

Posted by: jpatnosh1 | October 17, 2008 7:19 PM | Report abuse

General,
Remember Country, duty, honor.
Do the right thing.

Posted by: oberst | October 17, 2008 7:17 PM | Report abuse

Yes, Colin Powell still gets my attention, even though I'll never forgive him for not breaking away from his good soldier mold to being a good statesman mold.

Nevertheless, his endorsement would go far not only in supporting Obama's reputation, but also in quieting McCain's stupid attacks about Bill Ayers.

And for those out there, who might be persuaded by those attacks, remember this: . . Ayers ended up on the Annenburg board for education, because of his good works in the community, not his bad past. . . . . . . . And also McCain has his skeletons in the closet as well, such as his ties to national scale swindler, Charles Keating, and his on going relationship with unrepentent domestic terrorist G. Gordon Liddy.

I think Powell's endosement would indeed quiet McCain's "tempest in a pot of tea."

Posted by: coldcomfort | October 17, 2008 7:14 PM | Report abuse

Powell's endorsement is not worth nearly as much as the WP's endorsement. No one expected the WP to do that.

Posted by: 12oreo | October 17, 2008 7:13 PM | Report abuse

His speech before the UN was riviting, terrifying, and ultimately persuasive;now all that remains is the terror and wrongness of it.
Mr. Powell will likely share history's judgement on what may be the uneccessary, perhaps wrongful deaths of our troops.
His endorsement may contribute to what we hope will be a future based on our legitimate and thoughtful ambitions in this complicated world; to that end he has no choice.

Posted by: Robert45 | October 17, 2008 7:10 PM | Report abuse

jameschirico: "Powell said lets see what changes are made before I decide to stay a second term. He wanted the people whom fooled him to resign".

That's simply not true. Powell wanted to stay, right alongside Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Rice etc. He never considered resigning. He was extremely surprised when Bush called him to fire him immediately after the 2004 election. The whole episode is described in Bob Woodward's book.

There is no question of Powell having resigned as Secretary of State, his dismissal is public fact. The Dep Sec of State, Dick Armitage, was the one who resigned, and he did so in frustration at the firing of Powell.

Powell would have happily kept working for Bush, because he didn't really believe Bush had taken him for a ride. He knew Bush was lying about WMD all along and didn't care.

Posted by: bourassa1 | October 17, 2008 7:09 PM | Report abuse

Uh oh! Yet another person for the loony Republican hate machine to demonize.

The life of a shrill, hate filled, paranoid Palin supported is certainly not an easy one.

Maybe the Right can shriek that Powell was Abby Hoffman's gay lover or that he used to sing with Country Joe and the Fish.

Posted by: MorganaLeFay | October 17, 2008 7:09 PM | Report abuse

He spent days going through it with his chief of staff Col. Larry Wilkerson
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I know some have a less than stellar opinion of Wilkerson, he has said he was thrown out of Powell's office once, during the darkest days of Cheney's kook run (the run of the kooks -- is this like the run of the alewives, onto the shores of Lake Michigan? Only if we're calculating similar IQ's, and stench), Wilkerson told the truth, and gave a lot of people hope, while providing an example of how to conduct oneself when insane men are trying to overthrow the Constitution, in effect.

So, I count him as a hero, those who spoke up put MUCH at risk, lost their careers to fight the kook neocons, and their democratic counterparts.

Posted by: thegreatpotatospamof2003 | October 17, 2008 7:06 PM | Report abuse

Personally,,, I think this man could have stopped the mess we are in today. He could have said "NO" to sending 4,000+ kids to die in a battle where the enemy was not. But he buckled under, A GENERAL HE'S NOT,,,I will not fight in front of a COWARD!

Posted by: harried | October 17, 2008 7:04 PM | Report abuse

This endorsement would be great for Obama and a slap to the face for McCain.

Posted by: mel2877 | October 17, 2008 7:03 PM | Report abuse

Colin Powell sold his soul to the devil. Obama does not need his endorsement!

Posted by: GeorgHerbet | October 17, 2008 7:00 PM | Report abuse

Nothing Powell can do to erase that blood-stained "blot". When his integrity really mattered, it was nowhere to be found.

Posted by: MrsBoomer | October 17, 2008 6:59 PM | Report abuse

Powell wasn't fooled by the WMD "evidence". He spent days going through it with his chief of staff Col. Larry Wilkerson, and both men called it
garbage to each other. But Powell presented it anyway, for the sake of his job, and now a lot of people are dead.

Wilkerson has since called Powell's speech "A hoax on the American people, the international community, and the United Nations Security Council."

Powell's endorsement may swing the kind of people who are so slow that they haven't yet figured out the Iraq war was wrong, evil and stupid.

As for me, it would probably make me think a little worse of Obama.

If Powell had an ounce of moral courage, he would have endorsed Obama when the election's outcome was still in doubt, rather than fishing for goodwill from the new Administration with an utterly redundant and unnecessary endorsement after the hard work of other people has actually put Obama over the top.

But then, if he had an ounce of moral courage, he wouldn't have made that speech, and 250,000 dead people would still be alive.

Posted by: bourassa1 | October 17, 2008 6:56 PM | Report abuse

As a General, he helped to lie us into a war he knew we coudn't win as Cheney envisioned.

And if he knew about the whole "year zero" fiasco, it's a war crime.

BTW, the one thing I found curious was Powell's name in conjunction with the outing of Valerie Plame.

It was my impression he was somehow involved with the case.

If Addington and Cheney go, Powell will go with them, it's a given he's implicated, considering his role as Sec of State.

But mostly, he's a general, and officers are supposed to be better than that...

Especially if the word "treason" is mentioned...

Posted by: thegreatpotatospamof2003 | October 17, 2008 6:55 PM | Report abuse

Who cares what Powell thinks or says. He's busy becoming a millionaire via speaking fees. Powell squandered his credibility by being a loyal Bushie, reading that pile of bogus crap in his shameful United Nations appearance to justify Bush's maniacal war plans. Powell had to know better, but I'm sure his ambition got the best of his better judgment. So, who cares about his 'endorsement'? Let him make more speeches to other loyal Bushies and convince himself how important he is.

Posted by: free9604 | October 17, 2008 6:54 PM | Report abuse

Personally,,, I think this man could have stopped the mess we are in today. He could have said "NO" to sending 4,000+ kids to die in a battle where the enemy was not. But he buckled under, A GENERAL HE'S NOT,,,I will not fight in front of a COWARD!

Posted by: harried | October 17, 2008 6:52 PM | Report abuse

Personally,,, I think this man could have stopped the mess we are in today. He could have said "NO" to sending 4,000+ kids to die in a battle where the enemy was not. But he buckled under, A GENERAL HE'S NOT,,,I will not fight in front of a COWARD!

Posted by: harried | October 17, 2008 6:51 PM | Report abuse


Do nay of the ignorant right wingers here
know that when one is a guest speaker at
a major event...

and in fact the next president of the united States, the inviting organization and/or the hotel (less likely, is goin to
pay the expenses of the speaker?

Did anyone check out what McCain's wife ate, or given her history, imbibed otherwise? What scurvey little twits people the the posts these days.

Posted by: whistling | October 17, 2008 6:49 PM | Report abuse

UNCLE TOM

Posted by: kase | October 17, 2008 6:48 PM | Report abuse

Personally,,, I think this man could have stopped the mess we are in today. He could have said "NO" to sending 4,000+ kids to die in a battle where the enemy was not. But he buckled under, A GENERAL HE'S NOT,,,I will not fight in front of a COWARD!

Posted by: harried | October 17, 2008 6:47 PM | Report abuse

Wow - a Colin Powell endorsement. Although everyone is spouting off about assumptions driven by self interest, revenge for being thrown under the bus by the Bush Administration, I remain hopeful that General Powell will put Country First and whoever he endorses will be based on thoughtful consideration of both the security implications of an Obama or McCain presidency and the fundamental economic philosophy / world view of the two candidates. We can hope.

Posted by: mattosdirect | October 17, 2008 6:44 PM | Report abuse

It would be huge win in both the election and the administration. Powell could name his post and probably would return as Secy of State. He'll put the people in charge at intelligence that won't fool people ever again and a system that works . We have heard bad or altered stuff during the Vietnam war, Iranian Revolution, Iran Contra, and the most hurtful this Iraq war. We the people can't know, but our people on the intelligence committees with the clearance certainly should. Powell said lets see what changes are made before I decide to stay a second term. He wanted the people whom fooled him to resign, Dubya took his and the neocons really started losing the war, when Frank's could not take it anymore going with Condi's plan and retired. I think Obama owes him a look at Bin Laden's face or body when he is brought to justice. Our heros are our military men and the best of them are usually at the top. Shinseki, Fallon, Mellon, Petraeus (wanted that star for the surge against the joint chiefs wishes) and Frank's. Powell in the Obama cabinet is something most Americans would love.

Posted by: jameschirico | October 17, 2008 6:44 PM | Report abuse

So, Powell wants to be in Obama closest surrounding, and Obama would take him, of course. This is the only meaning of this more than late endorsement. Too late to have any other meaning.

Posted by: aepelbaum | October 17, 2008 6:43 PM | Report abuse

With respect to race: Obama is of mixed race. Bigots may not like to admit that and black people may think he's not black enough. But all in all Obama is a man. The only man running who is capable of handling the mess we're in.

With respect to Colin Powell: He can pull the undecided men out of their closets and get them to the polls to vote for Obama. This is the MOST patriotic thing Colin Powell could do. And I see Colin Powell as a patriot.

Posted by: daghome | October 17, 2008 6:42 PM | Report abuse

Gen. Colin Powell is a wonderful man and I honor his service to our country. I heard this story months ago when I was working on the Obama campaign. The reason why he may endorse Obama is because Obama actually reached out Colin Powell for his advice as a former Military General. McCain’s ego as a Military prisoner needs no assistance from him anyway. Powell served his entire life and was never captured and McCain was captured.

Cheney and Rumsfeld were responsible for Powell leaving because those two would never take any orders from a Black man.

Another Point:

I am a Registered Democrat but I watch FOX News and all the Republican talk radio stations. These people are in denial to the tenth degree.

One more point on Joe the plumber.

Obama will tax those who make over 250,000 and any amount over would be taxed. So in his comment is was 20,000 more and Rush Limbaugh said that would be $600.00 dollars. He said this plumber is an absolute idiot if that would cost him so much that he would consider not buying a business. I think the plumber was a plant like the other White guy that asked John McCain to use Reverend Wright who is not a Christian man in my opinion. The filth out of his mouth made me cringe.

Posted by: MsRita | October 17, 2008 6:41 PM | Report abuse

Is this some kind of show of mixed-race solidarity?

Posted by: optik_b | October 17, 2008 6:41 PM | Report abuse

Powell's endorsement would HELP Obama? Seriously? The very man who stood up at the UN and knowingly lied about WMDs, a man who could have prevented the war if he'd had the courage to tell the truth? Well, wait a minute. Given Obama's aversion to the truth, maybe it he would find it a plus.

Posted by: thinkwithyourbrain | October 17, 2008 6:41 PM | Report abuse

Therefore, you mean that Colin Powell is endorsing Obama. I get it now. It seems as though Powell was the one who instigated the IRAQ war. Now he jumps to the other side to help Obama make it his winning strategy. Obama has harped against this war since he ran against Hillary. I cannot believe how Colin Powell, jumps to the other side, now that he is the reason the Republicans are loosing. It seems like the making of a great PLOT to get Obama, a Obama elected!

Posted by: anotherperspective11 | October 17, 2008 6:40 PM | Report abuse

Even if Powell sways 0 net voters, he helps Obama run out the clock. With Obama sitting with a healthy lead, no more debates left, and 2 weeks until Election Day, the Powell endorsement would set the media aflutter for 2-3 days. That's 3 days of flattering press for Obama. That's 3 days that McCain can't make his final appeal. That's 3 days that Republicans have to endure more mockery of their regime, with one of their own stars defecting.

Obama has probably had this endorsement for some time, and thinks that 16 days before the Election is the time to pull it out. Win a couple news cycles, generate more positive buzz, and McCain's options narrow even further.

Posted by: AxelDC | October 17, 2008 6:40 PM | Report abuse

Personally,,, I think this man could have stopped the mess we are in today. He could have said "NO" to sending 4,000+ kids to die in a battle where the enemy was not. But he buckled under, A GENERAL HE'S NOT,,,I will not fight in front of a COWARD!

Posted by: harried | October 17, 2008 6:40 PM | Report abuse

@Obama2008, you're welcome. I hope it comes true.

Another reason I don't see Obama asking Powell for an endorsement right now -- and probably would ask Powell to *not* endorse him -- is that Obama is already solidly in the lead. He doesn't *need* any more help right now. And he must already be thinking about trying to preserve a bipartisan spirit with Senate Rs (because I doubt the Ds will actually make 60 -- I sincerely hope they don't, 'cause without checks and balances, an all one party gov is dangerous, no matter the party). So I really doubt he would try to win by more than he can get on his own merits. And he'll have to work with McCain in the future, so why embarass him unnecessarily? Obama thinks ahead a long way...

Posted by: bricedue | October 17, 2008 6:39 PM | Report abuse

General Powell: You "act" at the U.N. was more, MUCH MORE than a "blot". It was, in my opinion, an indictable war crime. Unless and until you can prove that Bush and Cheney lied to you, I have no choice other than to believe that, for whatever reason, you were part of their conspiracy. How many people have died as a result?
So I don't believe for ONE MINUTE that you will (or even can distinguish) the "right" thing.

Posted by: Tomcat3 | October 17, 2008 6:37 PM | Report abuse

This discussion is pointless. I personally can't care less who endorses whom.

I MAKE UP MY OWN MIND based on facts and not on racist believes and some poop coming out of McSame's or Moose Palin's dirty lying mouths.

8 years of dumb and idiotic politics should be enough, even for the dumbest of you republicans

Posted by: mackiejw | October 17, 2008 6:37 PM | Report abuse

for one would love to see Colin Powell back serving as Secretary of State under the Obama administration

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Really?

He was instrumental in getting the US into Iraq, under false circumstances.

You do understand the Iraq war has had real consequences, detrimental to the United States, right?

Posted by: thegreatpotatospamof2003 | October 17, 2008 6:35 PM | Report abuse

"Blacks only endorse blacks."

"They are the bad guys, we are the good guys."

I sometimes wish I were a Palin supporter. I would not have to think and put facts into any sort of perspective.
Everything is broken down into toddler-food sized sound bites. Easy to pick up, easy to digest, and easy to poop out.

How simple and totally mono-dimensional life must be to these Palin-ists. Everything in life is as simple as a 3rd graders mind. The complexities of life and the enormous tribulations around the world are nothing to them. Life is like one big opioid high.

Posted by: hayden1 | October 17, 2008 6:34 PM | Report abuse

Endorsements are fine. The Post endorsed John Kerry in 2004 and Obama in 2008. Colin Powell may or may not endorse Obama, McCain, or no one. I've learned since I was a child to make my own decisions based on my eyes and ears, hope that I'm right and accept the consequences if I'm not.

I grew up in northern Virginia during the population and economic boom years, and I have seen that hard work, intelligence, and true character make the difference.

I'll be voting for John McCain, no matter what anyone else says.

Posted by: hp20081 | October 17, 2008 6:34 PM | Report abuse

With two wars going on, I'd like nothing more than to see a Secretary of Defense Powell--regardless of who wins the election. Given Powell's diplomatic experience as Secretary of State, and his military experience as a four star General and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, there is no other American better qualified to direct the Department of Defense and serve as principal defense adviser to the President. Further, Powell is not a yes-man.

Posted by: jandcgall1 | October 17, 2008 6:34 PM | Report abuse

Hey, did you see the room service bill for Barack and Michelle at the Waldorf last night? Caviar and Champagne all the way!

Posted by: thecannula
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Obama and his wife don't drink.

Posted by: popasmoke | October 17, 2008 6:33 PM | Report abuse

Wow, is all I can say.

The neocon nazi's and fascist racist repub thugs of the republican party, really hate anyone who would endorse Obama.

Can anyone emagine Jesus Christ voting for and endorsing Obama ???
The neocon nazis and republican gestapo would pound a crown of thorns on his head and nail him to a wooden cross.

The hatred of these fascist neocon republican nazi's is truely sickening.

OBAMA/BIDEN

Gary Gelormino Seven Hills Ohio 44131 (216)447-0081


Posted by: garygelormino1 | October 17, 2008 6:33 PM | Report abuse

A message to Colin Powell - Endorsing Obama is the "right thing to do", for this country and for our allies around the world.

Posted by: msreginacomcastnet | October 17, 2008 6:31 PM | Report abuse

Powell is a hero...period
self made man, very intelligent and objective

I love how the repubs dis his endorsement...

but if mccain was getting it they would trumpet it as the 'voice of god'...

Powell knows mccain is a traitor and will destroy the country Powell fought for and loves...


the FOX polls indicate Powell has a 75% positive rating, only 13 hegative (exact opposite of bush) and 1/3 said it would sway their choice...if 1/2 of the 1/3 are repubs that may mean a 16% defection...in a race of 5-6 points that's huge

Posted by: Arthur5 | October 17, 2008 6:29 PM | Report abuse

I for one would love to see Colin Powell back serving as Secretary of State under the Obama administration. He was a class act who was setup by the most vile President and Vice-President this country has ever had.

When the time comes and G.W. Bush or Dick Cheney passes away, I would hope that the American Flag is not placed on their caskets as I would spit on them.

Posted by: justjunkemail | October 17, 2008 6:27 PM | Report abuse

I don't know what use Powell's endorsement might be to Obama, but if it means Powell will have an influence over a President Obama I'm all for it.

Powell is and has always been a loyal soldier. He charged the machine gun for Bush back in 02, when it became clear to him that Bush wasn't worth it Powell left. The only honorable choice he had.

How many people complaining about Bush today were supporters until ... say, last year?

Posted by: khote14 | October 17, 2008 6:27 PM | Report abuse

bricedue:

Thank you. You have an interesting take. I read that and I thought, "Well....that could be." Excellent points!

Posted by: Obama2008 | October 17, 2008 6:26 PM | Report abuse

Wow, is all I can say.

The neocon nazi's and fascist racist repub thugs of the republican party, really hate anyone who would endorse Obama.

Can anyone emagine Jesus Christ voting for and endorsing Obama ???
The neocon nazis and republican gestapo would hammer a crown of thorns on his head and nail him to a wooden cross.

The hatred of these fascist neocon republican nazi's is truely sickening.

OBAMA/BIDEN

Gary Gelormino Seven Hills Ohio 44131 (216)447-0081


Posted by: garygelormino1 | October 17, 2008 6:26 PM | Report abuse

I think it has less to do with McCain and more to do with what he sees the Republicans neocons doing. Remember this was the same party who vilified John Kerry over his Vietnam service. A career soldier like Powell must have felt betrayed.
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An army guy I kinda respect sees Powell as part of the problem, ie, as an officer he has a pattern of covering up the corruption, in this case, back to Mai Lai.

Initially, I vehemntly disagreed, but when I really thought about it, and saw what Mai Lai wrought, I could see he was right.

Great armies can't survive when corrupt military is left unpunished, or worse, treasonous military, covered.

And we haven't even looked at Powell's role in the Iraq WMD cover up.

But Powell himself said (paraphrasing)" the American army would need to be rebuilt" because torture was implemented as policy, and he was right, but I failed to see him take a stand against the Cheney kooks, and their democratic counterparts.

(Upside, though, is we now know of those who refused to enact torture under any command or circumstance, and they are the people you want in your military, they're intelligent enough and disciplined enough and brave enough to know how to protect the Constitution, withstanding the enormous pressure to comply. Obviously, a man, or a woman, has to live with their own conscience, their own self, no one tells you, or helps you out when it comes to deciding these things, ESQUIRE doesn't print that column-- those are the people who truly keep the country safe from kooks like Cheney and Addington).

And they're still standing.


Posted by: thegreatpotatospamof2003 | October 17, 2008 6:24 PM | Report abuse

Hey, did you see the room service bill for Barack and Michelle at the Waldorf last night? Caviar and Champagne all the way!

Posted by: thecannula
________________________

DID YOU,, YOU FRIGGIN MORON!!


Posted by: harried | October 17, 2008 6:24 PM | Report abuse

Are you kidding? Exactly who would Powell's endorsement swing to Obama? Conservative republications -- not a chance. Moderate Republicans -- there may be about 6 in the US at the moment. Independents -- they are already in Obama's camp. Exactly who cares what Powell says at this very late date when Obama has "won" three debates and looks like a sure winner? Isn't this about Powell jumping on the band wagon hoping to have some influence in the Obama administration.

DJ in VA

Posted by: jacobson98 | October 17, 2008 6:21 PM | Report abuse

I've served as 11B (infantry) straight leg grunt, And always believed what Powell stated. I've now come to believe that Powell was lied too. and "played" by the Bush/Rove/Cheney administration, I wish that Rice would have had the "balls" to tell him not to commit himself. However, Powell is a Soldier.

Yes, I still find honor in him.

(R)'s lost a generation by "playing" him !!!!

Posted by: TrulyIndy | October 17, 2008 6:20 PM | Report abuse

Wow, is all I can say.

The neocon nazi's and fascist racist repub thugs of the republican party, really hate anyone who would endorse Obama.

Can anyone emagine Jesus Christ voting for and endorsing Obama ???
The neocon nazis and republican gestapo would pound a crown of thorns on his head and nail him to a wooden cross.

The hatred of these fascist neocon republican nazi's is truely sickening.

OBAMA/BIDEN

Gary Gelormino Seven Hills Ohio 44131 (216)447-0081


Posted by: garygelormino1 | October 17, 2008 6:20 PM | Report abuse

I find it very interesting that most of the pro McCain supporters miss the the very salient point:TO PAY MORE TAX YOU MUST EARN MORE MONEY. broedd2003
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Right genius, so after I have covered my nut, I'm going home and playing with my kids rather than killing myself so Obama can distribute my hard earned cash to ACORN and Radical Education Programs, like the one he supported with Ayres...I'll probably lay off 1/3rd of my employees- let Obama employ them, like FDR did in the last Depression....note I didn't call it the GREAT Depression- that one's coming soon to you and Obama- Hey, did you see the room service bill for Barack and Michelle at the Waldorf last night? Caviar and Champagne all the way!

Posted by: thecannula | October 17, 2008 6:19 PM | Report abuse

Wow, is all I can say.

The neocon nazi's and fascist racist repub thugs of the republican party, really hate anyone who would endorse Obama.

Can anyone emagine Jesus Christ voting for and endorsing Obama ???
The neocon nazis and republican gestapo would pound a crown of thorns on his head and nail him to a wooden cross.

The hatred of these fascist neocon republican nazi's is truely sickening.

OBAMA/BIDEN

Gary Gelormino Seven Hills Ohio 44131 (216)447-0081

Posted by: garygelormino1 | October 17, 2008 6:18 PM | Report abuse

Apparently, the media has said they will love Powell again only if he endorses Obama. They will rewrite his support of the Iraq war, blame Bush (I guess Powell can't read CIA reports?), and rewrite history books.

Posted by: Cornell1984 | October 17, 2008 6:16 PM | Report abuse

I use to admire him before he got up in front of United Nations and lied about WMD. His own state dept report questioned evidence of WMD so he can't claim ignorance of facts being in dispute and did nothing to investigate evidence cheney and bush were brainwashing everyone with. Having said that, sure I'd welcome his endorsement if it would help with independents.

Posted by: Cowabunga1 | October 17, 2008 6:16 PM | Report abuse

I know it's hard to understand why people like armpeg hate America so much. But unless they are actually burning a cross on your lawn, they should be ignored. Maybe they'll just go away.

We can always hope.

Posted by: khote14 | October 17, 2008 6:14 PM | Report abuse

Powell could be Secretary of Defense or State in an Obama administration. He does not have to endorse Obama for it. If the general doesn't want either of those jobs he will be a resource and an adviser. It would not be surprising if Powell remained neutral in his presidential choice this Sunday. I will be more surprised if he does endorse. Then it would surely have to be Obama because Powell has the habit of gracious courtesy, calm and equanimity that we have seen in Obama through this long ordeal. A quick trigger like McCain would be a presidential nightmare to a temperate, thoughtful, diplomacy-oriented soldier, me thinks.

Posted by: GaiasChild | October 17, 2008 6:13 PM | Report abuse

By simply characterizing Obama as an historic,safe,and meaningful choice for President,Mr.Powell says all that is necessary to assuage the angst of undecided and concerned voters who need to have their hand held on the way to the voting booth.
If you remember,in 1992,two influential Republicans stated that Bill Clinton had the necessary gravitas to be President.They did not explicitly endorse him since he was on the opposite side of the political aisle.Their names were Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan.
In my humble opinion,this is the road that will be taken by Mr.Powell.An outright endorsement might be a stretch,but a calming and reasonable assessment of Obama as President could go a long way to influence an important bloc of voters.
If Mr.Powell were to make the case for Obama,and truly endorse him,then the case for McCain is dead in the water.If Mr.Powell were to make the case for McCain,and truly endorse him,then no one is particularly moved.The McCain camp will see no benefit from it.It will just be another conservative,beltway insider from the Bush administration spouting off at the mouth.
Mr.Powell will take the high road,but only Barack Obama will incur its advantages.

Posted by: klowry57 | October 17, 2008 6:13 PM | Report abuse

Wow, is all I can say.

The neocon nazi's and fascist racist repub thugs of the republican party, really hate anyone who would endorse Obama.

Can anyone emagine Jesus Christ voting for and endorsing Obama ???
The neocon nazis and republican gestapo would pound a crown of thorns on his head and nail him to wooden cross.

The hatred of these fascist neocon republican nazi's is truely sickening.

OBAMA/BIDEN

Gary Gelormino Seven Hills Ohio 44131 (216)447-0081

Posted by: garygelormino1 | October 17, 2008 6:13 PM | Report abuse

Colin Powell's endorsement would not mean much more to me than any of the many other individuals and institutions supporting Barack Obama. It is newsworthy for many reasons, including Powell's former positions in the Reagan and Bush administrations, but that was in the past, and the election is now, and in the now, Colin Powell is not doing that much.

Posted by: hp20081 | October 17, 2008 6:13 PM | Report abuse

"so how does the Media come up with stories like "short night" etc? ... this kind of reporting is an attempt to manipulate the election ... "

Why don't you read the whole story to form an opinion before letting your paranoia take over. Better yet, present a credible strategy for McCain that features him losing in Virginia, but winning an electoral majority.

Keep working on erasing the double-digit leads in PA & WI and McCain might be on to something.

Posted by: bondjedi | October 17, 2008 6:13 PM | Report abuse

"I would frankly be surprised if Powell does endorse -- anyone. It's not in his nature as he likes to play the elder statesman and doesn't want to appear overtly political. My prediction is that he will complement both of the candidates and call for a positive vision of the future, while rejecting negative attacks. He will, however, allude to the "historic" nature of the election."

I tend to go with this line of thought.

Posted by: DDAWD | October 17, 2008 6:12 PM | Report abuse

NBC News would never allow Powell on Meet the Press if he was endorsing McCain. The money is in endorsing Obama -- your book won't get reviewed if you don't endorse Obama. The media won't write nice things about you.

This is just more media manipulation.

Posted by: Cornell1984 | October 17, 2008 6:11 PM | Report abuse

"And is Colin Powell about to endorse Obama? The Obama campaign certainly isn't doing anything to tamp down the speculation. For our part, we've been hearing rumors of a Powell endorsement for a long time now [...] But it would be typical of the very deliberate Obama campaign to hold an endorsement until now, when it can be used to run further time off McCain's clock. ***Mostly, endorsements serve to win news cycles rather than win over voters***, although Powell is probably the biggest 'get' there is in this election[...]" (emphasis mine)

...and interesting point about endorsements in general from Nate Silver at fivethirtyeight.com


@Obama20008, I was the one who suggested Powell might get an opportunity to redeem his "blot" under an Obama administration. But I certainly don't think we'll find out this weekend... just look at the responses here! Both men know that if they team up *before* the election it will likely cost them more than they might gain. I expect Powell to offer subtle and couched praise for Obama without explicitly endorsing him. And I don't expect to hear about Powell being offered a position until *after* the 4th.

I actually suspect that Obama has pitched this idea already, possibly long ago. And in that imaginary conversation, I think Powell would probably say something like, "son, it's an interesting offer, but I'm not going to make any decisions now, and I'm not going to help you gain the Presidency. If you want my support, you will have to get there on your own merits. When you get there, give me a call, I'd be happy to chat..."

Posted by: bricedue | October 17, 2008 6:11 PM | Report abuse

I doubt that Colin Powell would endorse a 20 year white and America--hating cult member and Louis Farrakhan desciple like Barack Obama, but if he does, it'll be because he's black and for no other reason.

Posted by: armpeg | October 17, 2008 6:11 PM | Report abuse

My guess is that Colin Powell will endorse his preference for President privately and quietly in the voting booth.

Posted by: sketchpada | October 17, 2008 6:10 PM | Report abuse

Not a damn thing at this point. The general displayed an appalling lack of guts in making his position known. I guess he'll say something on November 3rd.

Posted by: tydicea | October 17, 2008 6:10 PM | Report abuse

I hope Powell has the political courage to endorse Obama. I've been disappointed in Powell's middle-of-the-road stance on the presidential race; for a man who's faced down bullets on the battlefield, he certainly seems afraid of facing the anger his party.

Furthermore, Powell's endorsement of Obama would be chum to the MSM sharks, who, otherwise, will focus on non-stories like plumbers and pigs, the last thing we need as the election draws to a close.

Posted by: Seneca7 | October 17, 2008 6:07 PM | Report abuse

THE GENERAL HAS TO EXPLAIN, his cartoon presentation to the UN, his sending over 4,000 American kids to their death in a place that was not where "THE BATTLE" was.

I HOPE HE DIES TOMMORROW!

Posted by: harried | October 17, 2008 6:06 PM | Report abuse

Hellooooooooo

Powell testified for Ted Steven's character this week.

What dirty secret does the GOP have on Powell?

SAY NOTHING, POWELL. NO ENDORSEMENT, PLEASE.

I am uncomfortable with the FIGHT doctrine being spewed
by the McCain Insane.

Can you feel the tension in the air? Or perhaps I am psychic!


Posted by: VoiceofReason | October 17, 2008 6:04 PM | Report abuse

I would be truly terrific, and historic, if Powell would endorse Senator Obama. It would also erase some of the stain left behind by his February 2003 speech at the United Nations about Iraqi WMD. Powell is 71, does he have one last act of courage left in him? I think he just might.

Posted by: osullivanc1 | October 17, 2008 6:04 PM | Report abuse

I remember when I cared about Powell's opinions and actually trusted him. He certainly waited long enough to voice his support. Powell always plays it safe.

Posted by: Hodson2000 | October 17, 2008 6:01 PM | Report abuse

"Powell's endorsement is a dollar short and a dollar late... Makes no difference.. All blacks are voting for the black candidate. So whats his point...A job?
Posted by: robinhood2"

robinhood2: just where have you been? have you not seen the number of blacks at mccain rallys?

i would make a snide remark here; instead i will say this: your comment is a perfect example of the underlying racism still existing in the country, and it must be eradicated if we are to continue to tout ourselves as the beacon of hope for freedom and democracy. yes, unfortunately, our constitution guarantees you the right to say what you please, and as an african american, i WILL defend your right to say it. but i do not agree and i hope that, if you have or one day will have children--who will one day take their place in this WORLD--their attitudes toward tolerance will not be what you may attempt to teach.

Posted by: acb8 | October 17, 2008 6:01 PM | Report abuse

NO ENDORSEMENT FOR EITHER CANDIDATE

McCain insane are using the FIGHT word in their
speeches.

America is being primed a tinder box.

POWELL - Do Nothing to incite this Country!


Posted by: VoiceofReason | October 17, 2008 6:01 PM | Report abuse

The impact would be to eviscerate any last desperate delusion that republican foreign policy ideology has any credibility. It would be devastating. Powell was the man with the most public credibility in the Bush administration, at a time when it still had some.

The fact that public discussion will be immediately filled with racist bile about the "real reason" will only further illustrate for moderates and the world that the republican party, its intellectuals and moderates purged in the name of the "base," is now a sad redoubt of the proudly ignorant.

Posted by: wharwood | October 17, 2008 5:59 PM | Report abuse

as powerful as an endorsement might be to some conservatives, Powell might just cop out and tepidly criticize McCain, instead
---------
Wonderful trait to have in a four star, WHAT courage.

Very very sad.

Posted by: thegreatpotatospamof2003 | October 17, 2008 5:58 PM | Report abuse

WHY would his endorsement be powerful?
He has already proven that, under pressure from a corrupt president, he will cave, and then stand up for his conscience when it's too late.
Nobody needs endorsement from men like that, and you would know that, Chris, if you weren't laboring under the burden of your eighth year of caving in to Bush yourself.

Posted by: wardropper | October 17, 2008 5:58 PM | Report abuse

Chris, seems you have joined the Washington media horde with the use of words like tittilate and juicy to describe the possible endorsement.
Who cares who Powell endorses. You really think it would make a difference. Powell has no gravitas left. He would have if he had refused to go along with the charade (Iraq) and resigned. His mere threat at the time might have given pause to the cretin in the WH and others. But he did not after instinctively knowing what harm it would do (the pottery barn rule).
Even at this late date after so many have recanted their support he refuses to categorically say that he was led down the garden path. Obama should stay away from him and let him pickle with his repub pals.

Posted by: mendonsa | October 17, 2008 5:58 PM | Report abuse

Dear General:

Not that I am psychic or anything, but just before you testified
before the UN I told my friends I could sense you were really
struggling. I was impressed to call you and say "Don't Do It"
before I knew what "It" was.

Ok, that sound bona fide crazy.

Here were are in 2008.

Dear General "Don't Do It" (not knowing, again, what "it" is)

We will forgive whatever they are holding over your head.
Hey, we are all human.

Doing nothing is many times better than igniting, General.

Or just invite America to unite around the next President,
whoever he may be.

Posted by: VoiceofReason | October 17, 2008 5:57 PM | Report abuse

Less than a week ago Obama was up on the Gallup Poll 11% ... now it is 6% ... so how does the Media come up with stories like "short night" etc? ... this kind of reporting is an attempt to manipulate the election ... no different than this story saying Powell may endorse Obama ... he might endorse McCain .. who knows? .. or he may not endorse anyone!

Posted by: paris1969 | October 17, 2008 5:57 PM | Report abuse

Scruffy1970 _ Your post manages express your ignorance and racism quite well. Thank you. If we replay the sort of garbage you hicks spout, we just might succeed in embarrassing 98% of people who harbor racism to think and grow. What is too bad, as far as I'm concerned, is that Obama's programs will benefit you along with the rest of the country.

Posted by: mibrooks27 | October 17, 2008 5:57 PM | Report abuse

POWELL WILL BE trading his own stature for that of Obama.

Any gain seen by Obama will come at the direct cost to Powell's reputation.

If I were Powell, I would not do it. It is not worth it. Obama has too many distractions and it makes Powell look wishy-washy. It is not a good tradeoff for Powell.

Posted by: InHarmsWay | October 17, 2008 5:56 PM | Report abuse

Colin Powell has been the biggest tragedy in my life since Bambi's mother got shot.

A GENERAL DOES NOT HIS TROOPS AWAY FROM THE BATTLE!

Posted by: harried | October 17, 2008 5:56 PM | Report abuse

Would it surprise anyone if Powell endorses Obama after what his Republican party and President did to him? In case you haven't noticed Mr Powell has been absent during this campain. I think it has less to do with McCain and more to do with what he sees the Republicans neocons doing. Remember this was the same party who vilified John Kerry over his Vietnam service. A career soldier like Powell must have felt betrayed.

Posted by: Jimof1913 | October 17, 2008 5:53 PM | Report abuse

colin powell had an opportunity to actually earn the accolades inexplicably directed his way had he put the country before his own personal ambition and status. instead, he chose to go on the world stage and dramatically support the lies of this most rancid and corrupt and unamerican administrations in the history of this country. perhaps had he the courage to defend the country, there wouldn't be tens of thousands dead and mutilated; the country's reputation wouldn't be in tatters; the financial security of millions wouldn't have been squandered and redirected to the piggiest of the piggies of america's wealthy....

and so much more.

who cares what colin powell says.

Posted by: mycomment | October 17, 2008 5:50 PM | Report abuse

I don't understand where this Powell endorsement idea is coming from. However, as another poster stated, I don't think it'd be a bad idea for him to be offered that position again. Come to think of it, I think Powell would be great under an Obama administration. I think Powell's expertise, in addition to some of Obama's judgment, would be a great match. That is an interesting thought. We'll find out Sunday. I'm open for that kind of surprise, but I don't think he'

Posted by: Obama2008 | October 17, 2008 5:49 PM | Report abuse

I don't think it makes much difference. If you can stand the idea of a black President, you're for Obama. If you can't, you're for McCain. The McCain campaign at this point is simply about dragging out fig leafs for Obama haters to have some intellectual cover. They lose on the issues, and Obama's WAY too normal and well-adjusted for any of the garbage to stick with anyone living outside of denial (which appears to be amply populated). Most moderate-conservatives like me have already signed onto supporting Obama. McCain's support is limited to racists, troglodytes and mouth-breathers. So Powell's support wouldn't make much difference. McCain backers will claim it's a black supporting another black.

Christopher Buckley's support was more influential, at least among conservative Republicans. And Jack Kemp's endorsement would be a BIG deal, because Kemp's bona fides as a Reaganaut are impeccable. Really, this is about the ideological conflict between the economic conservatives (which encompasses both the Reaganauts and the moderate "Rockefeller" Republicans, like Bill Weld) and the religious conservatives, which were allowed to hijack the party under W. McCain's a Reaganaut who sold out to the religious conservatives when he named Palin as his running mate. A McCain defeat sets the stage for a fight in 2012 to restore primacy to the Reaganauts and moderates; if the party embraces the likes of Palin, they consign themselves to fringe party status, because the moderates and Reaganauts won't want to be associated with nuts at the top of the ticket.

Posted by: gbooksdc | October 17, 2008 5:49 PM | Report abuse

it's funny; the thoughtful conservatives are torn between party loyalty and their conscience; Brooks wants to endorse Obama, but can't say the exact words; Will is in the same category.

Now, Powell, who felt conned by Tenet and Bush, waits til the last minute to maybe endorse Obama; as powerful as an endorsement might be to some conservatives, Powell might just cop out and tepidly criticize McCain, instead.

Posted by: spenceradams | October 17, 2008 5:49 PM | Report abuse

Scruffy1970 states, "The fact is that Powell is Black and Obama is Black. Now if he supports Obama it should be expected and it is racist for him to do so."
*****
As a Black woman, I am SO SICK AND TIRED of seeing this response. So sick and tired. Scruffy1970, and all those who think like you, big newsflash: NOT EVERY BLACK PERSON IN THE UNITED STATES IS GOING TO VOTE FOR OBAMA BECAUSE HE IS BLACK. To accuse an entire race of something so superficial, uneducated and ill-informed is incredibly offensive. Did it ever occur to you that Black people are voting for Obama because they think he is the best candidate, because of his policies, what he wants to accomplish? Let me ask you something, Scruffy. Do you know any Black people? Have you ever spoken to a Black person? Have you, for example, checked out Larry Elder's website? That man wouldn't vote for Obama no matter what, AND HE'S BLACK. If you talked to a few of us, instead of making these ignorant blanket statements that all of us are voting for Obama because he's "one of our own", maybe you'd learn that some of us are more than a little concerned about Obama's qualifications, his lack of experience - even his relationship with Rev. Wright.

And tell me please, how do you get from Powell endorsing Obama to "It shows how our country will fall apart in civil unrest because of this election"? Where on earth is the logic in that line of reasoning? If McCain and Palin win - well I'm joining Tina Fey and leaving Earth because like her, "I can't do four years of that" - but I can promise you, this Black woman and many, many other Black people ARE NOT going to be rioting in the streets. We will simply accept what is and do what we can AS AMERICANS - not Black or White or Green or Purple Americans - to get our country back on track.

Posted by: babzilicious | October 17, 2008 5:37 PM | Report abuse

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Well said! There are a whole bunch of us old white folks who are sick and tired of these stupid crackers and their incendiary, and thoughtless remarks.

Thank you!


Posted by: gandalfthegrey | October 17, 2008 5:47 PM | Report abuse

Not sure I would trust any poll conducted by Fox News...

Posted by: baltimore6 | October 17, 2008 5:45 PM | Report abuse

He knew,,he damn well knew that it was wrong! Black-White, whatever,,,a General does not send his soldiers into a place where the enemy is not! He is the "BIGGEST COWARD"!

Posted by: harried | October 17, 2008 5:45 PM | Report abuse

Interesting question.

Off the top of my head, two points that would tend to devalue a Powell endorsement of Obama:

1) Powell has never been popular with the Republican base, so he's not going to turn any hard core R's to D's.

2) Obama's share of the African-American vote is likely to be so high that it's not likely to be improved by a Powell endorsement.

My question in light of those observations would be this: "What's the profile of a voter likely to be swayed by Powell's endorsement?"

I don't mean to say the endorsement's unlikely. The idea that it could represent a "clean break" for him from his association with Dubya's foreign policy is a strong one.

And I don't mean to denigrate Powell, for whom I have the highest respect. I am, however, already in the Obama column.

Posted by: officermancuso | October 17, 2008 5:42 PM | Report abuse

What idiot on here would say Blacks endorse Blacks? Why don't you find your cousin Joe the Plumber and urge him to get licensed.

Anyhoo, This would be an endorsement of major preportions. He would probably be the highest ranked Repbublican to publicly endorse Obama, and the most respected on both sides of the aisle, and by Americans period. Even pro-war supporters who want a candidate with foreign policy creds would have to take a second look and wonder, if Colin Powell endorses Barack Obama over John McCain, who's supposed to be more versed in foreign policy, what does that say about Powell's thinking about whether or not John McCain is apt to lead this nation? That says that Powell, who's military and foreign service is as impeccable as they come and the respect from his peers the same, believes that McCain is not fit to lead and that would crush the GOP and probably split it in two. If Powell goes to Obama, the next person of that stature in the GOP who's held back his endorsement of Obama is Senator Chuck Hagel, one of the best of the best in foreign policy on both sides of the aisle. Funny thing is eventhough Hagel says he may not endorse either candidate to be impartial, the fact he's known John McCain for as long as he has and were as close as anyone McCain would allow to get near but after their public split in 2004 wouldn't endorse McCain, what does that tell you about what he feels about John McCain as a leader? Couple that with the fact that Hagel's wife just last week publicly threw her support behind Barack Obama. This is looking messy for McCain.

Posted by: rmattocks | October 17, 2008 5:42 PM | Report abuse

Okay, so let me get this: When a black person endoreses another black person, that's indicative of some kind of "racism," right? (And obviously some of you have NO idea what racism means, but that's a separate discussion I'll save for another day.)

But when a white person endorses another white person, that's...that's...

What? No answer, or have some of you brainiacs failed to think your analogy through to its logical end? Or perhaps you have...

Either way, what you're saying is pathetic. Truly.

Posted by: democrat4ever | October 17, 2008 5:41 PM | Report abuse

Powell's endorsement is a dollar short and a dollar late... Makes no difference.. All blacks are voting for the black candidate. So whats his point...A job?

Posted by: robinhood2 | October 17, 2008 5:38 PM | Report abuse

Scruffy1970 states, "The fact is that Powell is Black and Obama is Black. Now if he supports Obama it should be expected and it is racist for him to do so."

As a Black woman, I am SO SICK AND TIRED of seeing this response. So sick and tired. Scruffy1970, and all those who think like you, big newsflash: NOT EVERY BLACK PERSON IN THE UNITED STATES IS GOING TO VOTE FOR OBAMA BECAUSE HE IS BLACK. To accuse an entire race of something so superficial, uneducated and ill-informed is incredibly offensive. Did it ever occur to you that Black people are voting for Obama because they think he is the best candidate, because of his policies, what he wants to accomplish? Let me ask you something, Scruffy. Do you know any Black people? Have you ever spoken to a Black person? Have you, for example, checked out Larry Elder's website? That man wouldn't vote for Obama no matter what, AND HE'S BLACK. If you talked to a few of us, instead of making these ignorant blanket statements that all of us are voting for Obama because he's "one of our own", maybe you'd learn that some of us are more than a little concerned about Obama's qualifications, his lack of experience - even his relationship with Rev. Wright.

And tell me please, how do you get from Powell endorsing Obama to "It shows how our country will fall apart in civil unrest because of this election"? Where on earth is the logic in that line of reasoning? If McCain and Palin win - well I'm joining Tina Fey and leaving Earth because like her, "I can't do four years of that" - but I can promise you, this Black woman and many, many other Black people ARE NOT going to be rioting in the streets. We will simply accept what is and do what we can AS AMERICANS - not Black or White or Green or Purple Americans - to get our country back on track.

Posted by: babzilicious | October 17, 2008 5:37 PM | Report abuse

the united states of america is about to make a very historical and humanitarian statement in this election by its process of electing the candidates for the two parties sending a pathbreaking statement of impartiality and meritocracy as the only defining qualifications for presidential candidacy.this alone has already elevated the moral stature of USA.now if collin powel helps with his blessing to obama it will surely be an icing on the cake for obama,aswell as the country for its acknowledging of it by electing a historic first non-white to the white house.the world will rejoice.

Posted by: balasrini1242 | October 17, 2008 5:37 PM | Report abuse

Powell's worth is NOTHING! He sold his troops out from the start!

Posted by: harried | October 17, 2008 5:36 PM | Report abuse

Who, give a crap who Powell endorses,
If, Obama, is smart he should tell Powell, thanks but no thanks.
Powell, is a liar, and was used to make his case at the U.N. he should rot in HELL.

Posted by: llevario2 | October 17, 2008 5:36 PM | Report abuse

"If Powell endorses Obama, why the surprise? Blacks endorse other blacks, its just the way it is. I'm surprise Connie Rice isn't endorsing him by now."

I object to that reasoning, because of the fact that Powell and Rice have both accepted officials who are not "black." Rice and Powell both support PEOPLE, with intelligent reasoning (even if I may disagree), and not on the basis of race. I can conclude that much based on evidence. Again, I find that to be superficial judgment.

I think that IF (which I don't suspect) Powell endorses Obama, I imagine it would be for similar reasons that other Republicans are backing Obama as well and regardless of race as many humans define it. I just don't see how these figures would have to judge Obama differently from those with a different shade of skin from those they have supported in the past. They're intelligent and competent enough to display those characteristics when it comes to backing Obama or not backing Obama, like they've done all else in the past.

Posted by: Obama2008 | October 17, 2008 5:36 PM | Report abuse

If Powell does indeed endorse Obama it will go a long way in showing that even people who have agreed with Bush's ideology and agenda in the past are being hopeful and realistic about the future of the Presidency of this country. It will show that someone who was in the 'inner circle' is willing to stand up to this prospect: http://comedysmack.com/today/2008/10/17/madame-president

Posted by: leoshvedsky | October 17, 2008 5:35 PM | Report abuse

I was at a dinner party the night W. announced that he was invading Iraq. One of the guests was a retired admiral who said, "I know Colin Powell. If he thinks this is the right thing to do, he must know something we don't." Well, he didn't; he'd been sold a bill of goods ... and admits it. He is, without a doubt, an honorable man, and whom he endorses does matter.

Posted by: jgnagle | October 17, 2008 5:35 PM | Report abuse

Please, Mr. Powell, do the right thing. I have no doubt you're a very courageous man in battle, but your political courage seems to be a little lacking to me. (and many others, I might add.) IT'S NEVER TOO LATE TO DO THE RIGHT THING. Please, sir. Decent Americans NEED you.

Posted by: LucyLou1 | October 17, 2008 5:35 PM | Report abuse

I'm sorry, Chris...but Powell has been an enourmous disappointment to me and millions of Democrats.

He could have cut Bush -- and this insanely stupid war in Iraq -- off at the knees a number of times.....but no more so than the 2004 election. And he just pussied out.

Now, on the same day that the media is reporting that they are trying to figure out how to manage an "early victory" on Election Night, Powell is posturing around like somehow his endorsement will mean something.

Sorry. The "blot" on his record is of his own making.

Posted by: Jaxxon | October 17, 2008 5:35 PM | Report abuse

Powell never lost my respect, even when he blotted his career. He was an ex-military officer taking orders from his Commander in Chief until it became blatantly clear that the CIC and the rest of the War Cabinet were a bunch of bald-faced liars. He voiced his objections and was "allowed to resign". The fact that he's the only member of that group who has owned up to his misdeeds--and has atoned for them--speaks volumes to the man's integrity and honesty.

Posted by: hayeseric | October 17, 2008 5:33 PM | Report abuse

Who cares who Powell endores. Any credibility he had is gone after he lied for our idiot puppet president and his neocon string pullers at the UN. Powell is just another lying Republican.

Posted by: checkered1 | October 17, 2008 5:33 PM | Report abuse

you mean that Powell who endorsed BUsh carries weight by endorsing Obama?

appearantly he's great at being on the wrong side of endorsements

Posted by: newagent99 | October 17, 2008 5:31 PM | Report abuse

I'll take your word for it but we seem to be doing fine withour this Uncle Tom.

Posted by: kase | October 17, 2008 5:30 PM | Report abuse

I'm not sure if Powell will endorse anyone--he's pretty cautious after all--but would it be impossible for him to endorse McCain? He is Republican after all.

By the way, I agree that the parentheses should be taken out of the headline; it doesn't read correctly with them.

Posted by: yobi831 | October 17, 2008 5:30 PM | Report abuse

Blacks endorse blacks?

What kind of a racist comment is that?
It's not about the color of the skin, it's about who the right person to get the country out of Bush's mess is!

Posted by: domingueza | October 17, 2008 5:29 PM | Report abuse

The fact is that anything other than an unequivocal endorsement of McCain, given Powell's and McCain's respective GOP and military backgrounds in common, is a slap in the face for McCain. I think there may be bad blood there, and Powell will simply be the good soldier, by taking the high road and refusing to comment.

Posted by: nowukkers | October 17, 2008 5:27 PM | Report abuse

I don't think Powell's endorsement would mean anything to anyone but the Media ... those who are going to vote for Obama will vote for him .. those who are going to vote for McCain will not be swayed ... and for those who are extremists they will say he supports him because they are both black!

Posted by: paris1969 | October 17, 2008 5:26 PM | Report abuse

Hey, Scruffy, you win the Biggest Jerk award, hands down...way to go, fool.

Posted by: Jerryvov | October 17, 2008 5:25 PM | Report abuse

It occurred to me last week that McCain’s reluctance to go after Obama too hard would put Powell in the position that Powell would come out publically for Obama. I think Powell like most of the country thinks McCain has crossed the line. This will doom the McCain campaign and they will become even shriller. This is going to turn in to a 1964 style landslide and the right wing of the Republican party will be marginalized. It will take the Republican Party a decade to recover if that happens.

Posted by: bradcpa | October 17, 2008 5:24 PM | Report abuse

The read that Powell is going to endorse Obama as payback for the UN-Iraq fiasco is a misread. Powell doesn't seem vindictive.

That would be a Hillary move.

Posted by: bondjedi | October 17, 2008 5:24 PM | Report abuse

scruffy1970...

your post is ignorant.

even if powell decided to endorse one or the other it wouldn't have anything to do with color...(your tiny mind might disagree but i think that most of us can see how predictable your perspectives are regardless of its lack of factual basis)
i personally don't think he will publicly endorse either or which is bad for mccain either way. so you don't win in this argument and your candidate isn't going to win either. get over it, we don't live in the 60's anymore so your racist attitude should be stuck where the sun don't shine.

your type is the weakest link in our great country and you should just not speak at all.

Posted by: hemnebob | October 17, 2008 5:22 PM | Report abuse

Wow, timster's comment is moronic beyond belief. If it's true, then we can expect Michael Steele and Alan Keyes to endorse Obama, too, right?

Imbecile.

Posted by: PDiddy | October 17, 2008 5:22 PM | Report abuse


After what the Republicans did to Powell in the UN, I would not be surprised if he did not throw his weight behind anyone but a Republicans.

The Republicans 'used' this good man. He was trusting and believing he was being told the truth about WMD when in fact they were using Weapons of Mass DisTraction to get him down.

I am surprised he has been quiet this long.

Neocons are not trustworthy, one such is Lieberman...

In his heart, Powell knows Obama is right.

Posted by: wrock76taolcom | October 17, 2008 5:21 PM | Report abuse

Hey Scruffy, based on your logic when a white man (which I'm assuming you are!!) votes for a white man (which I'm assuming you're voting for McCain) it amounts to absolutely racism. How about we just think for a moment that this extremely intelligent man, who has served his country, has used his brain (which I'm assuming you along with most other Republicans never do) and has decided based on thoughtfulness and consideration of all the issues facing our nation that Barack Obama is the best choice for President of the U.S. I know it sounds crazy to you, but maybe, just maybe, he did that. Now, go vote for your white candidate.

Posted by: MMB42 | October 17, 2008 5:20 PM | Report abuse

If Powell endorses Obama, why the surprise? Blacks endorse other blacks, its just the way it is. I'm surprise Connie Rice isn't endorsing him by now.

Posted by: timster799 | October 17, 2008 5:19 PM | Report abuse

It would be delicious to see Powell slay the Bush neocons, particularly Cheney, with a last-minute endorsement guaranteed to seal the deal for Obama. I hope he gives the knife a good twist as he drives it home. Cheney is a man utterly without honor who misused the honor of Powell, one of the most honorable men in public life. There can be nothing but glory in recovering that honor by smiting the wicked and sending their reputations to the hell they belong in...

Posted by: razzl | October 17, 2008 5:19 PM | Report abuse

Palin should be the one on meet the press. It is a scandal that Joe the plumber has given more news conferences than she has. The media should quit giving her coverage.

Posted by: barnardj1 | October 17, 2008 5:17 PM | Report abuse

"The fact is that Powell is Black and Obama is Black. Now if he supports Obama it shoudl be expected and it is racist for him to do so. It shows how our country will fall apart in civil unrest because of this election."

Wow! Thanks for your superficial judgment; there's a lot of depth in it. The fact is, Powell is intelligent and accomplished, and so is Obama. I think Powell can speak intelligently about Obama based on facts, and Obama vice versa. That has nothing to do with the "race" of either men. Thanks kindly.

Posted by: Obama2008 | October 17, 2008 5:12 PM | Report abuse

If Powell does endorse Obama -- however evenly and non-partisan, and with all due respect to McCain -- imagine if Obama could get him to come back as Sec. State or Sec. Defense. Not only would that shore up Obama's administration in just the areas his own resume appears thinnest, but it would put Obama's own money where his mouth is on the promise to build consensus, especially bipartisan consensus.

I wonder if Obama has already pitched this comeback idea to Powell...

It could allow Powell to purge his "blot[ted]" resume in the exact way that Powell would surely value most: by working hard to build a record that outshines the U.N presentation blot. I expect this kind of opportunity would be very attractive to Powell -- as long as he got enough assurances of freedom and voice in the new administration... no more underhanded infighting like last time.

This could turn out to be an amazing administration for many reasons...

Posted by: bricedue | October 17, 2008 5:11 PM | Report abuse

The fact is that Powell is Black and Obama is Black. Now if he supports Obama it shoudl be expected and it is racist for him to do so. It shows how our country will fall apart in civil unrest because of this election.

Posted by: Scruffy1970 | October 17, 2008 5:10 PM | Report abuse

Why would Powell openly endorse either candidate, given his popularity? Did he say he was going to openly endorse? I can't imagine it. I personally can't see him doing that. I think he'd be more careful and considerate of blatant actions like that. I wouldn't be disappointed, but I just can't see it.

Posted by: Obama2008 | October 17, 2008 5:09 PM | Report abuse

Powell is the only one who has served in the Bush Administration, excepting Gates, who can be described as a man of integrity. He was the sole Cabinet member who opposed the run-up to the Iraq war, and the only one who resigned as a result. His endorsement would add luster to Obama's campaign.

Posted by: Diogenes | October 17, 2008 5:08 PM | Report abuse

A Powell endorsement of Obama would be a direct affront to the coercive style of diplomacy advocated by McCAin. ............
http://thefiresidepost.com/2008/10/16/dewey-defeats-truman/

Posted by: glclark4750 | October 17, 2008 5:07 PM | Report abuse

I don't think that Powell's "endorsement" is such a big deal. Actually, his recent TV appearance among five former Secretaries of State, all five supporting Obama, was a much bigger deal. Three of them (Powell, Kissinger, and Baker) were Republicans.

Posted by: dunnhaupt | October 17, 2008 5:06 PM | Report abuse

Powell NEEDS to endorse Obama if he is to reclaim his dignity after being the lackey for Bushco and lying to us about those rocket tubes being "suitable" for nuclear centrifuges to the UN.

He needs to apoligize to America and reverse direction by endorsing Obama/Biden.

Posted by: onestring | October 17, 2008 5:03 PM | Report abuse

No outright endorsement. But he will let people know that he thinks Obama is okay, after qualifying his remarks with something nice to say about McCain.

Posted by: bondjedi | October 17, 2008 5:03 PM | Report abuse

Has Powell said anything about McCain recently? Is it pretty sure that he could endorse Obama?

If you are undecided and not racist, watch a Palin rally. This woman can't even speak english - she speaks canadian. What a hate monger.

Even if I liked McCain, I couldn't vote for Palin.

Posted by: jfern03 | October 17, 2008 4:59 PM | Report abuse

I would frankly be surprised if Powell does endorse -- anyone. It's not in his nature as he likes to play the elder statesman and doesn't want to appear overtly political. My prediction is that he will complement both of the candidates and call for a positive vision of the future, while rejecting negative attacks. He will, however, allude to the "historic" nature of the election.

Posted by: billbolducinmaine | October 17, 2008 4:55 PM | Report abuse

YES, POWELL MATTERS... AMONG THINKING CONSERVATIVES AND INDEPENDENTS

Gen. Powell's endorsement would make increase the comfort level among conservative and independent devotees of the likes of David Brooks and George Will to support Obama for president.

A Powell endorsement would cement the notion that Obama is not a wild-eyed leftie but is instead a middle-of-the-road globalist in the mold of Bill Clinton and the first George Bush.

In other words, the establishment has nothing to worry about with an Obama presidency, but both left-of-center progressives and the hard right may be disappointed by another one-worlder in the White House.

Obama's choice of Joe Biden provides comfort to law and order types who might otherwise be seduced by the current McCathyistic campaign of guilt by association being waged by McCain-Palin.

At this point, it's starting to look like only the far-right fringe element and the racists see Obama as a "boogeyman." And that speaks well for America, should voters decide that he's the saner bet for president.

ARE THE McCAIN-PALIN CROWD AGITATORS THE SAME STORMTROOPERS WHO DO THIS:

http://www.nowpublic.com/world/american-gestapo-state-supported-terrorism-targets-u-s-citizens

Posted by: scrivener50 | October 17, 2008 4:53 PM | Report abuse

Chris - In the title of your post, you should remove "could" from parentheses.

Posted by: bondjedi | October 17, 2008 4:53 PM | Report abuse

If he doesn't endorse, does he have a book to sell, or some other policy reason to take up a valuable slot on MTP two weeks before the election? I don't think so. Were he just to tease us with a non-endorsement, it would be reminiscent of Hagel's press conference where he announced that he would be making an announcement in the future. I don't see Powell making himself look so silly.

Posted by: optimyst | October 17, 2008 4:48 PM | Report abuse

Yes, I think his endorsement of Obama would go a long way toward redemption. It won't bring back the dead young americans, but perhaps it will help more from being slaughted in unnecessary wars for oil and lobbyist/contractor profits.

Posted by: drindl | October 17, 2008 4:47 PM | Report abuse

While, of course, I'm disappointed in Powell for the part he played in the Iraq war, to be fair to him, I can see why he stayed on with the administration as long as he did, if he thought he could be a moderating influence, being, after all, the only sane person in the White House.

Posted by: MissaA | October 17, 2008 4:35 PM | Report abuse

I predict that Powell will demur on outright endorsement but do so with positive comment about the substance of Obama's plan and a nod to Obama's capacity to provide needed leadership and new direction to the art of statecraft that has been ridiculed by the Bush White House.

The reason for Powell to not fully endorse is that such an endorsement would not aid Powell's effort to rehabilitate his reputation.
So --- he gives a strong endorsement of diplomatic strength and the value of forward thinking foreign policy --- but no outright endorsement.

Posted by: gandalfthegrey | October 17, 2008 4:24 PM | Report abuse

An endorsement would go a long way towards erasing the 'blot' on his record. So would an honest apology for his lack of honor integrity and judgment in supporting Bush\Cheney\Rumsfeld in the first place. Who did he think he was dealing with? Blot? HUGE STAIN!

Posted by: thebobbob | October 17, 2008 4:17 PM | Report abuse

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