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Sarah Palin's New Hampshire problem?



Is former Alaska governor Sarah Palin a good fit for New Hampshire? (AP Photo)

Former Alaska governor Sarah Palin's decision to endorse former New Hampshire attorney general Kelly Ayotte in a contested Senate primary earlier this week immediately set off speculation about what it all meant for the 2008 vice presidential nominee's 2012 prospects.

"Kelly is the strongest commonsense conservative who can win in the fall," wrote Palin on her Facebook page (natch!). "I knew I liked her when I met her earlier this year, and I know this Granite Grizzly will represent New Hampshire with distinction in Washington."

Ayotte has touted the endorsement broadly; her Web site features twin pictures of herself and Palin with the words "Help Sarah Palin fight to elect a true conservative to the Senate."

It was widely presumed that Palin's endorsement would further distance Ayotte from the crowded Republican field in advance of the Sept. 14 primary. After all, not only is Palin regarded as the most prominent conservative figure in the country, but she is also presumed to understand the New Hampshire voter because of her roots in another cold-weather state with a relatively small population.

Palin herself played up the New Hampshire-Alaska comparison on the stump in 2008; "I know that we can count on the good people of New Hampshire because you're a lot like the people of Alaska," she said. "We all love good moose hunting, I know that."

But the reaction in some corners of New Hampshire to Palin's endorsement of Ayotte has been less than effusive.

Take the Union-Leader, the beacon of conservatism in the state, which bashed Palin in a front-page editorial by publisher Joseph W. McQuaid.

Wrote McQuaid:

"Former Gov. Palin isn't making these endorsements because, as she claims, she has spent time in New Hampshire and thus knows that the people here are a lot like Alaskans. She spent a few hours here on one day during the 2008 Presidential election. That's still more time than she spent getting to know Ayotte, but it takes quite a bit longer to know New Hampshire."

While McQuaid was the loudest voice to point out that Palin has spent almost no time in the state that will host the first 2012 presidential primary, he was far from the only person to make the point.

In fact, way back in April, Fergus Cullen, a former New Hampshire party chairman, wrote a piece arguing that while Palin "has a large and receptive audience in New Hampshire eager to see her," the fact that she hasn't actively courted the state's voters "is starting to be a mystery."

In conversations with a handful of top-level Republican strategists in New Hampshire, it became clear that Palin has three basic problems she must solve between now and 2012 if she wants to make run at victory in the Granite State.

* Time spent: New Hampshire voters expect -- nay, demand -- to meet (and then meet again and again) the candidates running for president. Palin simply has spent almost no time in the state -- either meeting and greeting activists or recruiting the top-tier political operatives that could begin putting the pieces in place for a run. "It's honestly difficult to say for sure how well Sarah Palin would connect with the voters of New Hampshire given that she has only spent a few hours of one day here," said Mike Dennehy who led Sen. John McCain's (Ariz.) Granite State campaigns. Cullen contended that Palin has "exactly two personal relationships" with New Hampshire voters: Jason Recher and Steve Duprey. Recher, a former advance man for McCain's campaign, now oversees Palin's political operation, while Duprey is a former state party chairman and McCain loyalist.

* Ideological Misfit: Palin's brand of in-your-face social conservatism might not be the best fit for the flinty fiscal conservatives who tend to carry the most influence in the state's presidential primary. "Presidential candidates who run from the right to the right usually don't fare well here," said one senior New Hampshire strategist granted anonymity to speak candidly. Indeed, a look at past competitive New Hampshire primary winners -- McCain in 2008 and 2000 being the prime examples -- suggests that Palin's brand of conservatism might not be as natural a fit in the state as some have expected.

* Independents: New Hampshire has an open primary system, meaning that independents can choose to vote in either the Democratic or Republican primary for president. McCain relied heavily on independent voters to surge to a stunning upset of then-Texas Gov. George W. Bush in the 2000 New Hampshire primary, and non-affiliated voters also fueled his comeback in the state in 2008. With Obama almost certain not to be challenged for his party's nomination in 2012, independents are likely to play a very influential role in determining the Republican nominee. Palin has struggled mightily to court independent voters since the 2008 campaign; a recent Quinnipiac University national poll showed just 33 percent of independents viewed her favorably, while 50 percent saw her in an unfavorable light.

While those three factors make Palin's potential presidential path perilous -- that's a lot of "p's"! -- in New Hampshire, there is still plenty of reason to believe that Palin's celebrity within the party would allow her to overcome or at least mitigate some of the aforementioned problems if she did ultimately decide to run for president.

And even if Palin muddled through New Hampshire, it's entirely possible that her strengths in Iowa and South Carolina -- where social conservatives carry far more voting influence -- would insulate her from a less-than-stellar performance in the Granite State.

Will Palin even run? That's a question that no one can answer with any degree of authority -- maybe not even Palin herself. If she does, however, New Hampshire would seem to present the biggest hurdle to her chances at the nomination.

By Chris Cillizza  |  July 22, 2010; 1:10 PM ET
Categories:  Eye on 2012  
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Obama QUIT both his Illinois Senate and U.S. Senate seats after promising to serve full terms too. You were saying?

Posted by: JakeD2 | July 25, 2010 6:51 AM | Report abuse

Really doesn't matter
If you're on Facebook or Twitter.
Everyone knows
that ShakesPalin
Is a Quitter....

Posted by: braultrl | July 25, 2010 2:16 AM | Report abuse

If I had a "mill" (a part of a penny) for every Democrat who has made similar statements about visits to a stae and and never have it mentioned in the Press. I'd be near a millionaire. I guess the Propagandists for the Marxists hold real people to higher standards. Ok,
So... what else is running in the Republican ticket that has the straight up honesty that Palin carries??? What did I hear you say? and lastly ...... I think if Pa;om starts to doubt her on veracity she's in trouble. I also think this was just such a piece to start making her doubt. Like I've said a dozen times already. She's "lightening in a bottle" a rare thing in the firstplace. I hope she rubs your nose in this.

Posted by: jackolantyrn356 | July 24, 2010 5:01 PM | Report abuse

If I had a "mill" (a part of a penny) for every Democrat who has made similar statements about visits to a stae and and never have it mentioned in the Press. I'd be near a millionaire. I guess the Propagandists for the Marxists hold real people to higher standards. Ok,
So... what else is running in the Republican ticket that has the straight up honesty that Palin carries??? What did I hear you say? and lastly ...... I think if Pa;om starts to doubt her on veracity she's in trouble. I also think this was just such a piece to start making her doubt. Like I've said a dozen times already. She's "lightening in a bottle" a rare thing in the firstplace. I hope she rubs your nose in this.

Posted by: jackolantyrn356 | July 24, 2010 5:01 PM | Report abuse

If I had a "mill" (a part of a penny) for every Democrat who has made similar statements about visits to a stae and and never have it mentioned in the Press. I'd be near a millionaire. I guess the Propagandists for the Marxists hold real people to higher standards. Ok,
So... what else is running in the Republican ticket that has the straight up honesty that Palin carries??? What did I hear you say? and lastly ...... I think if Pa;om starts to doubt her on veracity she's in trouble. I also think this was just such a piece to start making her doubt. Like I've said a dozen times already. She's "lightening in a bottle" a rare thing in the firstplace. I hope she rubs your nose in this.

Posted by: jackolantyrn356 | July 24, 2010 5:01 PM | Report abuse

So, if I say "Run, Obama, run" that means I have no problem with him too?

Posted by: JakeD2 | July 24, 2010 12:16 PM | Report abuse

"Liberals and Republicans In Name Only (RINOs) really fear Palin, even her name. "

Posted by: RonKH

Well, if you say so. For instance all us liberal bloggers like margret meyers and noacoler and leichtman regularly end a post now and then with, "Run Sarah run!"

Now maybe MM or the reverse refugee are secretly conservatives writing in a perverse persona to generate controversy, but I am as radical leftist as you can get. I can't think of a better paradise than 437 Democratic representatives and 100 Democratic Senators lead by Howard Dean.

And I figure that the divine Miss S is about the most likely candidate for president that even stands a chance of bringing that workers paradise about.

So, as I tremble in my combat boots, I still defiantly cry, "Run Sarah Run."

Posted by: ceflynline | July 23, 2010 7:37 PM | Report abuse

And here, poplab, are the numbers.

Starting in Chesapeake Bay, draw a line up the Potomac River and directly to the Ohio. Follow the Ohio to the Mississippi. From the source of the Mississippi draw the line North to Canada. Those states that have some portion of themselves north and East of that line, excluding West Virginia, added to California, Oregon, and Hawaii, have sufficient electoral votes to elect the President. Of those States ONLY Indiana might be accepting of the Newt, and that is iffy. The friends of Jim Demint in those states are jointly and severally in a distinct minority.

Any presidential calculus that can't find a way to carry several of those states is pretty much doomed to waste its money on a loser.
Palin, Gingritch, Demint, Perry, none have any claim to loyalty there on the fringes. Pawlenty and Mitch? Well, they have more bona fides that the Moose Bull Party.

Posted by: ceflynline | July 23, 2010 7:28 PM | Report abuse

Liberals and Republicans In Name Only (RINOs) really fear Palin, even her name.

And Cillizza wets his pants trying to find something perceptive to say. So he creates another "unnamed source" to quote.

It's all so very, very apparent that left-wing publications like WaPo with hacks like Cillizza will not last very much longer.

WaPo is losing circulation and advertising rapidly. Cillizza better keep his resume up to date. WaPo may soon be up for sale like the sister publication, Newsweek.

Cillizza, maybe you can go to work for the Obama administration. They lean very left-wing too.

Posted by: RonKH | July 23, 2010 7:22 PM | Report abuse

"I love how liberals get their panties in a bunch every time Palin's name is mentioned. Good. They may be wasting their energy fomenting about Palin - who may not even run for president in 2012. But, they had better watch their flanks for the likes of Newt Gingrich and/or Jim DeMint, both of whom would end Big O's hope for a second term. Gingrich against Obama would be such a mismatch that it would be ludicrous - an adult with knowledge and experience against a punk wannabe who still can't lead his way out of a wet paper bag. Oh, I relish the opportunity to watch THOSE debates - Gingrich would take care of Obama they way Vince dices an onion with a Slap-Chop. Then, one wipe with a Sham Wow could clean up the mess. You got that, cameraman? Posted by: poplab"

This is the Newt Gingritch who Bill Clinton so regularly outsmarted and out horse traded that Gingritch loudly quit dealing with him because he was losing so badly? If he couldn't keep ahead of Clinton, admittedly one of the deepest politicians in modern history, he will never out smart the team of Clinton, Clinton, Obama, and dean, every one of whom is vastly Newt's intellectual better.

And Jim Demint? He Might carry South Carolina if they amend the Constitution their to require that all voters have to have been employed for at least five consecutive years.

MIGHT.

AND that is before newt tries to trot out family values and even the Focus on the Family faction has to hold their noses to think about Newt as First Father.

Newt, Like Palin, is big news until he has to face all the American People, and not just the conservatives in the corral waiting their trip to the Chicago Wheel. Whern he has to go on the road more than fifty miles from his home town there are just too many people out there who know who he is and aren't too fond of him.

Posted by: ceflynline | July 23, 2010 7:18 PM | Report abuse


I love how liberals get their panties in a bunch every time Palin's name is mentioned. Good. They may be wasting their energy fomenting about Palin - who may not even run for president in 2012. But, they had better watch their flanks for the likes of Newt Gingrich and/or Jim DeMint, both of whom would end Big O's hope for a second term.

Gingrich against Obama would be such a mismatch that it would be ludicrous - an adult with knowledge and experience against a punk wannabe who still can't lead his way out of a wet paper bag. Oh, I relish the opportunity to watch THOSE debates - Gingrich would take care of Obama they way Vince dices an onion with a Slap-Chop. Then, one wipe with a Sham Wow could clean up the mess. You got that, cameraman?

Posted by: poplab | July 23, 2010 2:15 PM | Report abuse

I think that you meant "attended" and "women" in YOUR word salad. If anyone else thinks it's a crime to attend Occidental College but not graduate from there, let me know.

Posted by: JakeD2 | July 23, 2010 1:04 PM | Report abuse

MerrillFrank:

I simply asked a question. The COMPARISON would be to "former half Senator Obama".

Posted by: JakeD2 | July 23, 2010 12:44 PM | Report abuse

BTW: do you refer to JFK as "former half President"?

Truly offensive comparing an assassinated president and WWII war hero to a vacuous bimbo who quit her job and cries victimhood while mouthing incoherent word salad.
She dropped out of 3 colleges within 4 years. One of those colleges she attending was in Hawaii. She dropped out because she felt "unconfortable" around the many minority student body.
At least JFK had decent taste in woman both physically and intellectually.

If Palin and her family were black or latino well......

Posted by: MerrillFrank | July 23, 2010 12:13 PM | Report abuse

eye95:

That was not "funny". I sure miss Bob Hope.

Posted by: JakeD2 | July 23, 2010 10:39 AM | Report abuse

meyer390:

I hardly think that "US magazine" qualifies as NEWS. At least Bristol hasn't posed nude like Patti Reagan did (yet). If you want to start bagging on politicians based on what their ADULT children do, we could talk about Al Gore (BTW: who knew that he was such a pervert?)

Posted by: JakeD2 | July 23, 2010 10:35 AM | Report abuse

BTW: do you refer to JFK as "former half President"?

Posted by: JakeD2 | July 23, 2010 10:28 AM | Report abuse

One thing we have clearly learned about Miss Sarah...is that everything she tries to do is to help Sarah...

It is always interesting to see how she screws up the many of her personal endorsements. Most of which have a common problem, trying to write like she knows more than she does about the person, area, of the issues.

But then we should remember that she has always paid more attention to her own objectives rather than what was going on in her own family or in her own house.

Another example just last week...she learned from a NEWS REPORT that her daughter will marry the father of her child....something tells me that Miss Sarah will not be the winner of the "Mother of the year" award..

Posted by: meyer390 | July 23, 2010 10:28 AM | Report abuse

btafmax4:

Please see my post to "nuke41" providing a link to that ever-elusive photo of Gov. Palin with her mouth shut (granted, she's WINKING into the camera instead, so now we can't wait for the derogatory comments about that too). Maybe if you actually read before posting, you would see that your questions are already answered.

Posted by: JakeD2 | July 23, 2010 10:24 AM | Report abuse

Speaking of Constitutional qualifications to be President (just to prove that I don't pull any punches from either side of the aisle), there is a valid legal argument to be made that the President can only be a male. While that is not an explicit requirement, every reference is to "he" or "his" and there has (obviously) been no definitive Supreme Court ruling on that yet. Someone alert Daily Kos.

Posted by: JakeD2 | July 23, 2010 10:16 AM | Report abuse

New study shows that each Sarah Palin Tweet causes decrease in reader’s IQ.

Read this article, it is HYSTERICAL.

http://www.dailygoat.com/?p=1821

Posted by: eye95 | July 23, 2010 10:10 AM | Report abuse

cbyebyefraser:

Did you also think that your dog was smarter than GWB (or, if you are older like me, Reagan and Nixon)? As we have seen, one does not even have to be a natural-born citizen to be elected President these days.

Posted by: JakeD2 | July 23, 2010 10:07 AM | Report abuse

I love Sarah Palin. She's like a South Park character come to life.

Posted by: roblimo | July 23, 2010 10:01 AM | Report abuse

She's so cute. Why is it that in every picture of Palin her mouth is open? I think the former half-governor of Alaska enjoys the media talking about the prospect of her running in 2012, actually, she most likely really believes she could be a threat to a real candidate. You know, the kind of candidate that knows a little about national security, geography, history, the English language, all of the amendments of the Constitution besides just the 2nd Admendment.....she's a real snake charmer. Too bad PT Barnum isn't still alive, he could make a lot of money with her. Right now she's America's #1 looser in the Women Who Want To Hit The Throne category. No danger here folks.

Posted by: btafmax4 | July 23, 2010 9:44 AM | Report abuse

This Palin endorsement will not hurt Ayotte at all. Will it help her if Ayotte wins the Senate seat? Probably not as much as people expect. Legendary Senator Judd Gregg endorsed Bush in his 2000 NH primary loss to McCain & endorsed Romney in his 2000 NH primary loss to McCain. I think with the endorsement of Gregg, Ayotte was already riding high to replace him. Anyone know who Romney endorsed? My guess is Ayotte as well. He may have went Binnie, but I'm thinking everyone seems to be behind Ayotte. Binnie is making such a race of it due to his personal wealth & spending. He's ran a great campaign without alot of help. As for Palin & 2012, who knows?

Posted by: reason5 | July 23, 2010 9:42 AM | Report abuse

I believe Sarah Palin will run in 2012. Some people crave power even more then big money, something Palin already has now, and I strongly suspect she falls into that category. Sarah Palin will NEVER get this independent female's vote. I think my dog is more intelligent then SP!

Posted by: cbyebyefraser | July 23, 2010 9:32 AM | Report abuse

Just ignore her lies, Moonbat. Back on topic, Gov. Palin has endorsed in the Washington State race:

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/onpolitics/post/2010/07/palin-backs-a-former-washington-redskin-in-washington-state/1

Posted by: JakeD2 | July 23, 2010 9:28 AM | Report abuse

Poor lonely Ped.

Posted by: Moonbat | July 23, 2010 9:15 AM | Report abuse

Don't you think Charlie Rangel's problems are more relevent for your readers and the voting public??

Posted by: PRRWRITER | July 23, 2010 2:49 AM | Report abuse

Don't you think Carlie Rangel's problems are more relivent for your readers and the voting public??

Posted by: PRRWRITER | July 23, 2010 2:48 AM | Report abuse

Brigade, why do you do posts like that?

Posted by: Noacoler | July 22, 2010 8:45 PM 
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Which one? The snarky one or one of the many reasoned, thoughtful, irrefutable ones?
==
That too. 
You know full well that there are pretty much no conservative posters here worth the time to read, there are only pests, mental cases, and snark.  There was a hope when you appeared that you were the long-awaited reasonable conservative poster who would balance the preponderance of good liberal and centrist writers with some decent contributions from the conservative side, but only a few posts later you turned out to be just another zouk, so close that most believed and many still believe that yours is just another of his monikers.  You attacked the exact same people and in the exact same terms.
Now you turn out to be one of the more immature ones, barely more interesting than the neologists like leapin and armpeg, and what few posts of yours contain anything more than insult are nothing more than recycled Limbaugh / Beck / Hannity garbage with no original thought.  You think it's cute to alter the text of others' posts when you quote them, you pretend to miss the point, you engage in childish turnarounds, like pretending I was writing about Pelosi, and you thump your chest about what a great orator you think you are.
Just another in a long string of disappointments here, but a particularly bitter one, because despite that spew of yours about "liberal echo chamber" that really isn't what we want here. 
The "New Fix" we were promised has clearly fizzled, and we're left with a bunch of strutting know-nothing conservatives to season the stew of mental cases and morons.  You have turned out to be interested in nothing but snark and particularly lurid insults, nothing at all what some hoped when you showed up.
And the sad thing is that once in a long while you do come down from the potty-mouth junk and the adolescent boasting and write some good stuff, just enough so we know that you could be a good contributor if you wanted to, but that you don't.  You'd rather just *claim* to be one, while you post derivative junk.

Posted by: Noacoler | July 23, 2010 2:19 AM | Report abuse

This time it's the guy who was banned for advocating the execution of gay members of the military. And no, I'm not making it up or taking anything out of context.

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Not quite.  Yes he did say that but that was just one of the times everyone was ignoring him and he was going further and further over the top looking to break the silence and get people scrapping with him.

He was banned once for the birther junk, for bringing it up every time anyone referred to Obama by his title, till even Cillizza got sick of reading it over and over -- and think how many 37th repetitions have failed to yield the same frustration and you get some idea what a god damned pest he was about it -- and the second time it was after I told him to quit begging for responses from disinterested people with the "if anyone wants ... let me know" routine and he had a serious 37th-esque meltdown, with column-miles of blank lines occasionally punctuated with "that's not begging."

He's back here under his old account, which means that Cillizza has unbanned him, and I think that's about all we need to know about the new glorious days of The Fix to come.  All unhinged racist junk all the time.

Posted by: Noacoler | July 23, 2010 2:06 AM | Report abuse

Besides being an utterly loathsome woman, Sarah Palin sees herself as on a mission from God.  If such a horrible and improbably outcome as her becoming president came to pass, it would be the end of life as we know it, and not just the availability of abortion.  Does anyone think that an unreflective and thoughtless person on a mission from God would have respect for the rule of law, for our system of justice?  If the Supreme Court denied her something she thought was part of her mission, does anyone think she would honor the law?  Like hell, she would probably have them killed and give some babbling speech about Muslim terrorists being responsible.  We'd be invading other countries, using nuclear weapons, destroying the natural kingdom, and before her first year was up the planet would be dead or in its death throes.

There is of course no chance of Palin winning a legitimate election but then I don't think her followers care much about legitimacy, nor do the people who would benefit from a Palin presidency, knowing how easy it would be to manipulate her into doing their bidding, even easier than Putin hoodwinking Bush by nothing more than borrowing a gold crucifix for a few hours.  Wouldn't be at all surprising if there was a coup in planning right now, a massacre of the Congress and President and the installation of martial law and an "interim" Palin presidency.

So let's cut the crap about her being some "conservative standard bearer."  She's a fundamentalist nut with the brains of a grasshopper and the most divisive figure in our history.

Posted by: Noacoler | July 23, 2010 1:57 AM | Report abuse

Progressive Liberals Creating a Diabolical Society

http://www.massresistance.org
http://www.drjudithreisman.org
http://www.silentscream.org
Also goggle Boston Children's Hospital Sex Change Clinic
Also Dawn Stefanowicz Out from Under
Also Amazon.com You're Teaching my Child What?
Also Planned Parenthood as this organization goes into the public schools and gives young girls low dose birth control pills so they will become pregnant
Then they take them for an abortion many times without the parents permission

Posted by: boski66 | July 23, 2010 1:16 AM | Report abuse

Am I the only person in the USA that is sick of hearing about Palin in the news. She dosen't even have a title or work for our Government. All she does is make money by talking like her lips don't match.

Posted by: randykree | July 23, 2010 12:44 AM | Report abuse

37th, the first time you got banned was partially in response to me sending an email to Chris. If you want to get me banned, you should do the same. Of course, I had plenty of evidence of you spamming since all I had to do was link to any given page. Furthermore, there were plenty of people on these pages stating how sick and tired they were of you. If Chris needs testimonials and evidence to ban someone, then you'll have trouble. But if you think he'll ban me simply on the strength of your email alone, then maybe you should give it a try.

http://projects.washingtonpost.com/staff/email/chris+cillizza/

You can reach him there.

Posted by: DDAWD | July 23, 2010 12:26 AM | Report abuse

Another closely coordinated attack by the JournoList Mafia to destroy their opponents in order to protect their Democrat political Dons.

The list of known members to date of the left-wing now-defunct JournoList listserv. Spread the word.
http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=413168890945

I have copied and spread the list to all governments and news agencies here in Asia so that the hypocrisy of American journalism can be exposed and despised.

Posted by: ymchoo | July 23, 2010 12:23 AM | Report abuse

ATTENTION CORPORATE MEDIA OUTLETS (I'm looking at you again, Chris Cillizza)

Now Is The Time To Reopen Breitbart's And Faux News' ACORN Smear Job -- And Get The Story Right This Time!


Shirley Sherrod's case parallels similar deceptions used by the right in that other big smear (ACORN) -- and offers a chance to restore your lost standards


"Recalling Breitbart from his days as eager lackey to Matt Drudge, I warned from the beginning that nothing he produced would resemble journalism. More than once since then, I’ve mentioned the accumulating evidence of deception by O’Keefe and Breitbart in creating and then publicizing the ACORN tale. It was a "scandal" that became a national story only after wildly biased coverage on Fox News Channel, followed by sloppy, scared reporting in mainstream outlets, notably the New York Times, the Washington Post, CNN, and the national TV networks (some of whom flagellated themselves for failing to publicize this canard sooner!)."

"Investigations by former Massachusetts Attorney General Scott Harshbarger, Brooklyn District Attorney Charles J. Hynes, California Attorney General Jerry Brown, and the nonpartisan Congressional Research Service, among others, have served to exonerate ACORN of the most outrageous charges of criminality (while still criticizing ACORN employees and leadership). More important, from the perspective of journalistic ethics, those investigations revealed that the videotapes released and promoted by Breitbart’s website were selectively and deceptively edited to serve as propaganda, not news."

http://www.salon.com/news/andrew_breitbart/index.html?story=/opinion/conason/2010/07/21/acorn


This raised a question that still hasn't been answered: Beyond blaming Breitbart, Faux News, will the corporate media ever take a good hard look at themselves? Breitbart and Faux would not get away with their lies if the rest of the media weren't using their own bullhorns to blindly promote those lies, repeating without reporting, as has become their habit. Sources either prove credible or they do not, and Breitbart and Faux are not credible. Conason has a suggestion for those corporate media sources that promoted the ACORN smear:


"So here at last is an opportunity for all of the corporate media outlets that aided and abetted the ACORN fraud to restore a minimum level of standards and honor. Investigate Breitbart, O’Keefe, Giles and the making and editing of the ACORN tapes without fear or favor -- then report the findings on page one."


http://www.salon.com/news/andrew_breitbart/index.html?story=/opinion/conason/2010/07/21/acorn

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Posted by: DrainYou | July 23, 2010 12:18 AM | Report abuse

you'd have to waterboard me before I'd vote for such a dingleberry....

Posted by: Geopolitics101 | July 23, 2010 12:08 AM | Report abuse

Chris:


I just want everyone to know that whenever broadwayjoe brings up "Gregory Charles Royal" - he is trying to call Sarah Palin a racist.

I believe that the False Charges of Racism on this board have gotten way out of control.

And that includes the use of sexual slurs against the Tea Party.

The democrats are constantly demanding that the Tea Party exercise restraint - HOWEVER THE DEMOCRATS DO NOT EXERCISE RESTRAINT IN THEIR ATTACKS ON THE TEA PARTY - FULL OF SLURS, SMEARS AND FALSE CHARGES OF RACISM.

This is one major problem on this board as well.

I object - broadwayjoe and ddawd have violated the terms of service on this board dozens of times - there has been no enforcement.

Everyone else has to endure this kind of behavior - and it has been dealt with the way it has -

To blame one party in this situation is just wrong.


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Posted by: YouCanPostThis | July 22, 2010 11:54 PM | Report abuse

There is no way she is running, there is no money in it. She is going to try and establish herself as a GOP/Tea Klan king/Queen maker.

Posted by: rcc_2000 | July 22, 2010 10:32 PM | Report abuse

mibrooks -- if you spin that fast your parts will start to fly off.

I don't know what a "looser" is. Is that one of those spacers that give you a little more room in your shirt collar?

Posted by: margaretmeyers | July 22, 2010 10:17 PM | Report abuse

5 years and 6 colleges for president. bwahahahaha.

Posted by: gabeat | July 22, 2010 10:15 PM | Report abuse

This post is as empty of thought as Palin is; a circular little post that puts up a strawman and then says "but this is a strawman!"

I guess Cillizza needed a high-volume post and the easiest way to do that is put the P word in your headline.

Posted by: margaretmeyers | July 22, 2010 10:12 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin has no problem with the people of NH. She has a problem with one newspaper owner who took a great newspaper and toned down on its conservative tone from when it was owned by the Loebs in the 80's and even was one of McCain's earliest supporters. This is nothing different than David Brooks calling her "a joke."

Joe McQuaid does not speak for NH conservatives. The reason the MSM picked this up was due to the fact that they could spin it otherwise.

Posted by: sflesher2002 | July 22, 2010 10:03 PM | Report abuse

That's funny drivl. Present ident obungler has given all of two press conferences in his tenure. Fewest ever. Why?

Is he afraid of questions?

There is no live TelePrompTer. It must already be loaded. What would he say? No one knows. Especially Barack.

Posted by: Moonbat | July 22, 2010 10:00 PM | Report abuse

Gregory Charles Royal is a musician who was part of a lawsuit suing Palin for something like not issuing a proclamation to honor Juneteenth as required by Alaska law. (Juneteenth is the anniversary of troops seizing Texas and forcing them to abolish slavery.)

Posted by: DDAWD | July 22, 2010 9:57 PM | Report abuse

Hey, all you remaining true believes in Obama and the Democrat's, wont you see them for what they are? They sold you out! Get it? And, the country is going to come crashing down around all of our ears and that nest of snakes is going to be replaced by the most right government you can imagine. And, thanks to Obama's adding to the alphabet soup of intelligence agencies and strengthening their powers, you get to look forward to a police state. Because these clodhoppers, fools, and crooks managed to not listen to the plight of the country's working class, they have driven them into the arms of anyone promising to end the free trade nightmare. That might not be Sarah Palin, that might be someone a lot worse, a genuine Hitler with Latino's taking the place of Jews, and Obama's lemmings filling for the Spartan Brigades and the mindless communists of Weimar Germany. You fools, by standing with that empty shirt fool of a President, just dug your own grave. Pathetic bunch of loosers.

Posted by: mibrooks27 | July 22, 2010 9:56 PM | Report abuse

31 States have put gay marriage on the ballot

It has passed in: ZERO

What does that tell you ????


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Posted by: YouCanPostThis | July 22, 2010 9:34 PM | Report abuse

Can you feel the love tonight? And remember she's inexperienced too unlike that brilliant leader the greatest president ever Obama!

Posted by: emartin432000 | July 22, 2010 9:27 PM | Report abuse


Is there any chance Gregory Charles Royal will vote for Palin?

Posted by: broadwayjoe | July 22, 2010 6:36 PM

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Why don't you explain this - and why you feel so strongly about this ?

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Broadwayjoe - you have brought up this topic scores of times.

Why don't you just tell everyone what it is about - and why you feel so strongly about it ???

What is your problem ??? If you bring up a topic, you should be willing to state your opinion and discuss it.


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Posted by: YouCanPostThis | July 22, 2010 9:27 PM | Report abuse

Did Sarah ever say anything about the flags the astronauts left on Mars?

Did she ever worry that Guam might capsize if too many people landed there?

We certainly don't want ignorant people representing us in Washington.

Posted by: Brigade | July 22, 2010 9:26 PM | Report abuse

doppler1 and Noacoler thank you for making my case for me.

I did not say any of those things. They were said by prominent columnists writing in prestigious LEFT and center LEFT publications over the last few days.

Posted by: viator1 | July 22, 2010 9:26 PM | Report abuse

ddawd


Why don't you just call some more people racist ???


That's they way you approach all the discussion, right ?

Posted by: YouCanPostThis | July 22, 2010 9:23 PM | Report abuse

Run, Sarah, run! Just spend a little more time there and you will win them over, despite the fact that they may be a little miffed at present, like certain Southern Californians who were left out on your last book tour (HINT!). Sincerely, An Independent Voter from CALIFORNIA Who Hasn't Missed An Election Since 1979.

Posted by: PennyPingleton | July 22, 2010 9:19 PM | Report abuse

Hehe, Brigade, don't you love the people who support you on here?

This time it's the guy who was banned for advocating the execution of gay members of the military. And no, I'm not making it up or taking anything out of context.

Posted by: DDAWD | July 22, 2010 9:17 PM | Report abuse

This is a long, articulate and interesting article about Sarah Palin and her relationship to Jewish Americans and Israel.

"In that speech, while Mrs. Palin cited some quotes from the Christian Bible, Jewish scripture figured much more prominently. She quoted twice from Psalms as well as from Proverbs and the Prophet Malachi. She told the women that she loves telling Piper about how Esther, an orphan, overcame steep odds and difficulties in order to save the Jewish people.
“Fear mongers with political agendas want to drive a wedge between Gov Palin and American Jewry. Sometimes they do it with quotations that leave out key sentences. Sometimes they do it with distorted depictions of her religious beliefs. Jews have nothing to fear from Sarah Palin’s religion, but we have plenty to fear from those political leaders who not only have no interest in Esther or Proverbs or Sarah, but who think that poking Israel in the eye makes for good foreign policy. A careful look at the speech reveals how close to Judaism and the Jewish people she is,” said Mr. Korn."

"According to Rabbi Greenberg, she told him she accepted her special-needs child, saying “G-d doesn’t give you something you can’t handle.”
“It was straight out of the Lubavitch book. We all feel she is a remarkable, energetic, and good person,” he said."

http://jewishvoiceandopinion.com/pdf/201005.pdf

Posted by: viator1 | July 22, 2010 9:16 PM | Report abuse

Ms Palin utter inability to offer five consecutive sentences in understandable English is self-evident.
Yet,there seem to be people who applaud her "values", "openness", innuendo-filled narrow-mindedness, her basic nastiness in describing anybody she finds politically profitable to put down...all these unpleasant characteristics seem to appeal to a portion of our electorate.
This says more about us and our body politic than about Ms Palin. She is a
female avatar of a Bush-44 level of
vacuousness in thinking, in action and in leadership.
We are in severe trouble that we do not know how easily fooled we are. Help!

Posted by: doppler1 | July 22, 2010 9:06 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin may not be ready to be president today, but that doesn’t mean she won’t be ready to be president tomorrow.”

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She's had two years to start and still doesn't know anything. When do you expect her to hit the books, exactly?

Sorry, but there isn't enough between Palin's ears for her to grow, it's just not there. When she gets to the end of a sentence she's forgotten the beginning, she takes a breath, and keeps going. A canary makes more sense.

Come on , get real.

Posted by: Noacoler | July 22, 2010 9:05 PM | Report abuse

Brigade:

Your snark is irrefutable as well. The following actually reminded me more of HILLARY.

"Scuttlebutt us that she's enormously disliked, potty-mouthed and obnoxious, throws her weight around and irritates everyone putting on airs". Pathetic for sticking with Bill, and she's an Alinsky-disciple too.

Posted by: JakeD2 | July 22, 2010 8:59 PM | Report abuse

I don't think you could handle Việt Nam, brigade. The flag would give you a coronary.

And I'm in Cần Thơ, not in Hô Chí Minh City. Sixty miles to the southwest.

Posted by: Noacoler | July 22, 2010 8:58 PM | Report abuse

Brigade, why do you do posts like that?

Posted by: Noacoler | July 22, 2010 8:45 PM
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Which one? The snarky one or one of the many reasoned, thoughtful, irrefutable ones?

Posted by: Brigade | July 22, 2010 8:50 PM | Report abuse

Thank you, viator1.

Posted by: JakeD2 | July 22, 2010 8:47 PM | Report abuse

Indeed I am Brigade and at one point I might have included you but in that you have shown me to be wrong.

One of many disappointments and letdowns in this blog. Just another cookie-cutter conservative, like a wallpaper pattern. Alas.

Posted by: Noacoler | July 22, 2010 8:34 PM
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I suppose this means I won't be invited to your hov...er, housewarming in Ho Chi Minh City.

Posted by: Brigade | July 22, 2010 8:45 PM | Report abuse

Brigade, why do you do posts like that?

Posted by: Noacoler | July 22, 2010 8:45 PM | Report abuse

Just a small sample from the last couple of days:

Sarah Palin is at the top of her party

"Whatever Palin has been doing since then seems to be working. And I have noticed a certain change in how the media are viewing her. In a recent column giving advice to journalists, Marc Ambinder of The Atlantic wrote: “Be humble about conclusions. ... Sarah Palin may not be ready to be president today, but that doesn’t mean she won’t be ready to be president tomorrow.”

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0710/40072.html#ixzz0uSeV3OWi

Poll: Palin's Endorsements Have More Sway Than Obama's

A Quinnipiac poll released today suggests that the endorsements of Sarah Palin have more clout with voters than those of President Obama --

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/07/poll-palins-endorsements-have-more-sway-than-obamas.php

Georgia Primary Results Boost Both Palin and the GOP

http://www.newsweek.com/blogs/the-gaggle/2010/07/21/georgia-primary-results-good-news-for-palin-and-republicans.html


Posted by: viator1 | July 22, 2010 8:43 PM | Report abuse

Brigade:

I realize that she's not your first choice, but if it comes down to Obama v. Palin in 2012, for whom would you vote?

Posted by: JakeD2 | July 22, 2010 8:34 PM |

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I don't even want to think about it.

Posted by: Brigade | July 22, 2010 8:42 PM | Report abuse

The money's gone to her head bigtime.

But then, she always was low-class.

Posted by: Noacoler | July 22, 2010 8:10 PM
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But enough about Pelosi.

Posted by: Brigade | July 22, 2010 8:37 PM | Report abuse

Competent Republican?

(shades eyes, rotates head)

Looks like you're one short.

Posted by: Noacoler | July 22, 2010 8:37 PM | Report abuse

Indeed I am Brigade and at one point I might have included you but in that you have shown me to be wrong.

One of many disappointments and letdowns in this blog. Just another cookie-cutter conservative, like a wallpaper pattern. Alas.

Posted by: Noacoler | July 22, 2010 8:34 PM | Report abuse

Brigade:

I realize that she's not your first choice, but if it comes down to Obama v. Palin in 2012, for whom would you vote?

Posted by: JakeD2 | July 22, 2010 8:34 PM | Report abuse

JakeD2 wrote,
"How are we so "certain" that Obama won't be challenged for the Dem nomination. A couple more PPP results like this month, followed by electoral disaster this November, could convince an unnamed Secretary of State to consider exactly that."

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Now that would be worth the price of admission. But I don't think it's even possible under the current circumstances. African-Americans are the Democrats' most loyal voting block, and they would go absolutely bonkers if Hillary or anyone else tried to prevent Obama's re-election.

It is remotely possible that, given dire enough circumstances, he might simply decline to run again---like LBJ; but I hope for the good of the country that things don't get THAT bad. I'd rather just see him lose the general to a competent Republican.

Posted by: Brigade | July 22, 2010 8:34 PM | Report abuse

Think Ayotte might have a Palin problem? New Hampshire doesn't seem like the greatest Palin country. I think Ayotte gets the nod for Republican nominee anyways. Palin is just riding coattails here, which I think is cause for some of the irritation.

Posted by: DDAWD | July 22, 2010 8:31 PM | Report abuse

Noacoler wrote,
"those of us with brains and education ..."

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And just who might that be? Don't tell me you're including yourself.

Posted by: Brigade | July 22, 2010 8:27 PM | Report abuse

Brigade:

Thanks for the info via Kurtz (many here on these threads, including DrainYou, have stated that everyone at Fox News including Beck jumped on the bandwagon BEFORE the White House announcement). Maybe the JournoList is still alive and kicking from some undisclosed location.

Posted by: JakeD2 | July 22, 2010 8:25 PM | Report abuse

Yes viator, and a lot if those articles are about how stupid and untruthful she is. So far most of her endorsements win primaries and then begin to sink. See Hoffman, Doug; see Angle, Sharron.

People slow down to gawk at accidents too.

And her negatives are higher than ever, so, like, what us your point?

Posted by: Noacoler | July 22, 2010 8:22 PM | Report abuse

All she needs is a tight circle of hardened conservatives and she gets the nod.

By the time the RNC figures this out Sweet Sarah is their albatross and they will just have to live and especially die with her.

Posted by: ceflynline | July 22, 2010 7:31 PM

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I don't claim to understand the inner workings of a politician's brain, but if Sarah Palin is interested in her party's nomination for the Presidency, she certainly has taken one of the strangest paths in history to get there.

I would have guessed that resigning as governor after two years to go make lots of money would be a deal-breaker for some folks. It seems more like she answered the call to line her pockets than the call to public service.

I have no problem with people making lots of money. It's great. But if she wanted a future in politics, she probably should have finished her term as governor and then maybe ran for the U.S. Senate. She is young enough and could have picked up a little gravitas along the way.

But sometimes when people are constantly surrounded by fawning supporters and don't read their negative press, they get funny ideas. Which is to say that Ceflynline's scenario is not totally implausible.

My hope is that she just wants to make money, be a celebrity, and maybe find a place on the national political scene as a gadfly like Al Sharpton, Dennis Kucinich, or Alan Keyes---people who are just in to stay in the public eye and possibly advocate for particular issues.

I have nothing against Sarah, but I can't believe the national Republican establishment will regard her as the strongest candidate.

And Broadwayjoe, what's this business about the two enhancements? LOL. I hadn't heard that one. Any documentation---or videos?

Posted by: Brigade | July 22, 2010 8:20 PM | Report abuse

Most of these comments reveal a lot more about the poster than about Palin. Meanwhile, she has created a burgeoning cottage industry as commentators right, left and center fall all over themselves writing articles about her. She is generating, by my count, 2-3 major columns about her daily at this point and many local and regional articles. There has been a noticeable reevaluation and redefinition in the center and center-left MSM, or as she would call it the lamestream media. At this point she has endorsed more than fifty candidates in this election cycle many of whom will go on to win governorships, senate and congressional seats, some in key 2012 locations.

Posted by: viator1 | July 22, 2010 8:16 PM | Report abuse

Funny you should say that, LouBear. Moments ago grabbing a doppio, the barrister had just been in AK at a watering hole frequented by the quitteress. Scuttlebutt us that she's enormously disliked, potty-mouthed and obnoxious, throws her weight around and irritates everyone putting on airs.

The money's gone to her head bigtime.

But then, she always was low-class.

Posted by: Noacoler | July 22, 2010 8:10 PM | Report abuse

Thank you, LouBear. I took particular exception to the idea that Gov. Palin "only" has two in-person contacts for the whole State. Even assuming that's true, how many did Obama have on July 22, 2006?

Posted by: JakeD2 | July 22, 2010 8:03 PM | Report abuse

Noacoler wrote,
"* coverage of Sherrod and Vilsack with the tone of a boxing match. Puddle-deep analysis faithful to the Fox News line. Never mind the guy was lying, we don't care about that here, it's all about winning and perceptions."

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From Howard Kurtz's column today in the post:

"But for all the chatter -- some of it from Sherrod herself -- that she was done in by Fox News, the network didn't touch the story until her forced resignation was made public Monday evening, with the exception of brief comments by O'Reilly. After a news meeting Monday afternoon, an e-mail directive was sent to the news staff in which Fox Senior Vice President Michael Clemente said: 'Let's take our time and get the facts straight on this story. Can we get confirmation and comments from Sherrod before going on-air. Let's make sure we do this right.'

"Sherrod may be the only official ever dismissed because of the fear that Fox host Glenn Beck might go after her. . .

"Ironically, Beck defended Sherrod on Tuesday, saying that 'context matters' . . ."

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Just to clear the air.

I was surprised to learn that Sherrod's husband was quite active in the Civil Rights movement. Evidently her name and background are very familiar to rank and file NAACP members, which makes it all the more stunning that they would take the word of a partisan hack before having a closer look and considering the source. I think her father was murdered by some of Robert Byrd's old cronies.

Posted by: Brigade | July 22, 2010 8:03 PM | Report abuse

Actually, if Palin decides to run, I think she will do just fine in New Hampshire. NH voters like and expect the personal contact with candidates.
Despite all the snide comments people on all sides of the political spectrum who have actually met Palin and spent a little time with her, have spoken of her ability to connect with people and her genuine warmth.
By then she will also have (especially if she's serious about running) more clearly formed positions on major policies.
We'll will just have to wait and see, but if she runs, she'll have a real chance of success.

Posted by: LouBear | July 22, 2010 7:55 PM | Report abuse

Are you certain that Sarah Palin is the one who is bitter, negative, and angry?

Posted by: JakeD2 | July 22, 2010 7:55 PM | Report abuse

As one of the Blue Collar Comedy guys says, "you can't fix stupid," and that was, is, and always will be her biggest problem.

Posted by: pcpatterson | July 22, 2010 6:40 PM
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That was Ron White. He's a redneck. He was talking about Obama, not Palin. And the shoe seems to fit.

Posted by: Brigade | July 22, 2010 7:47 PM | Report abuse

nuke42:

The following WaPo article uses a picture with her mouth closed (sorry to burst your little bubble).

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/07/11/AR2010071103007.html

Posted by: JakeD2 | July 22, 2010 7:45 PM | Report abuse

In response to some posts that were made last night after I left:

Yes, Drindl, I used to listen to Leon Russell back in the seventies. Very talented. I don't know what ever became of him.

And special thanks to DDAWD for all the kind words. No one would ever guess we actually differ on some issues.

Posted by: Brigade | July 22, 2010 7:42 PM | Report abuse

those of us with brains and education >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>


hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

hohohohohohohoho

liberals with brains....good one.

Like racism, it actually requires proof before anyone tags along.

and we are still waiting on the transcripts of Messiah. Big Secret. Transparency. Like the health care debate. the citizenship. Etc.

Posted by: Dead_and_Barryd | July 22, 2010 7:40 PM | Report abuse

"I would suggest that Palin might have problems in primaries in more states than New Hampshire. Posted by: Cyclopsina"

In a proportional delegate system she would regularly get the largest plurality of delegates, but never a majority. The Convention would have to be brokered, and the brokers might actually have a candidate in mind, and not a caricature.

But the Goldwaterites found out that a winner take all system permits a candidate who can rally about 20% of the party to get the nomination as long as enough no chancers stay in the race long enough to keep drawing votes away from moderates and centrists.

All she needs is a tight circle of hardened conservatives and she gets the nod.

By the time the RNC figures this out Sweet Sarah is their albatross and they will just have to live and especially die with her.

Posted by: ceflynline | July 22, 2010 7:31 PM | Report abuse

ceflynline:

Gov. Palin never once claimed that she "feels close" to New Hampshire (yet another strawman argument).

Sheryn:

The reason I keep bringing up Obama is that she is at least as qualified as he, and that seemed to be enough for you in 2008.

Posted by: JakeD2 | July 22, 2010 7:16 PM | Report abuse

"Ever notice how all the Palin pictures they use have her mouth wide open? Is there something Freudian going on there? Posted by: nuke41"

You haven't noticed? You can see all the way to the roots of her hair. They are the same shade as the top so she's a natural.

Posted by: ceflynline | July 22, 2010 7:11 PM | Report abuse

Shane Evans is back?

Switching from iCab Mobile to Chrome 'cause it has AdBlock.

Posted by: Noacoler | July 22, 2010 7:10 PM | Report abuse

Oooooooooh--why is it that every time someone says something negative about Sarah Palin--her fans jump in and criticize Obama and say that she is smarter, more experienced etc. than he is. THAT IS NOT WHAT THE DISCUSSION IS ABOUT--and quit trying to change the subject! Who put Sarah Palin in charge of looking at all the female candidates who are running for political office and then telling the people in that State to vote for the candidate that she chooses, because they have the "right" qualifications? Did the voters of New Hampshire say to Palin: I know you only came to our state once (back in 2008) but we are so dumb that we can't decide who to vote for so would you please tell us? Some of the candidates she endorsed are honest enough to admit that they never ever even met this lady; they doubt that she knows what they even stand for; but they know they were chosen because they are women and Sarah hopes they will pay back the favor if elected and they will accept her endorsement. Palin tried to take credit for Scott Brown's election in Massachusetts and he was honest enough to say that he did not give Palin any credit for his getting elected and he absolutely did not owe her "anything in the future" for her "endorsement." And when did we all decide that the newsmen from FOX could tell us who to vote for and who should be fired? It doesn't take very much intelligence to see that when their newsmen interview Palin they either have to let her rant about something that is not related to their question, they have to give her the questions a few days in advance so she can ask her advisers for the answers or they have to ask her the question and then give her the correct answer (like O'Reilly did in the last interview) so that she doesn't look like a dumbo.

When are those rabid Palin fans going to admit that Palin is simply not qualified for any higher office? She is a loser and a quitter. They flaunt all her experience as the half term Alaska Governor but neglect to realize that the last poll showed that the majority of Alaskans felt she was not qualified to be the President and they would not vote for her if she did run. Why not believe the Alaskan voters when they say she is all fluff and very little fact? If these fans dislike Obama so much and polls show that it would be impossible for Palin to win an election, why don't these fans put their money and their energy into finding someone who they feel is most qualified to be the President in 2012? Sarah Palin is interested in only self promotion and celebrity status and getting large amounts of money. She never has gotten past the high school group that thought being pretty and popular made up for being ignorant and mean. Sarah Palin is bitter, negative,and angry--and she will never admit that she is not telling the truth or that she is wrong. Even her own family is afraid of the pit bull or baracuda. Pathetic.

Posted by: Sheryn | July 22, 2010 7:02 PM | Report abuse

Of COURSE she feels close to New Hampshire, why the only place between Wasilla and St. Albans is some place called Canada, and it can't be that big, who ever heard of them?

(And I know St. Alban's is in Vermont)

Posted by: ceflynline | July 22, 2010 6:59 PM | Report abuse

No, that's okay. You go ahead. Be my guest. Can say it concerned a Palin "policy" discussion.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | July 22, 2010 6:56 PM | Report abuse

Worth repeating.

"common sense" is as always code for lacking the real thing. Those lacking the intelligence to reason effectively, or lacking the education to have anything to reason with in the first place, can always salve their deserved intellectual insecurity by laying claim to "common sense.". See also "gut."

Palin praises "commonsense conservatives," what those of us with brains and education shorthand as "dumb bigots."

Posted by: Noacoler | July 22, 2010 6:54 PM | Report abuse

"Actually, that's 6 problems. But it doesn't matter anyway -- she will never run, because holding office is work and all she wants is money and more money. Posted by: drindl"

Oh! She'll run, much as Shrub ran, in that he let his name get used and did what Cheney told him. The Conservative Wing of the Republican party, all Hierarchical (from a Greek word for a goat with long horns, how appropriate) is used to getting its candidates that way. They intend to keep her in the White House Kitchen for eight years baking cookies and burning the pork chops.

So here's to a nominee whose base doesn't want here to know much more than how to use double value coupons and how to change diapers. Bring her on, RNC, PLEASE bring her on!

Posted by: ceflynline | July 22, 2010 6:52 PM | Report abuse

Is there any chance Gregory Charles Royal will vote for Palin?

Posted by: broadwayjoe | July 22, 2010 6:36 PM

____________________________


Why don't you explain this - and why you feel so strongly about this ?


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Posted by: YouCanPostThis | July 22, 2010 6:45 PM | Report abuse

leichtman1:

Assuming yours are not incomplete sentences, I don't need anything from you (and I was asking "ImaDem" the question).

Posted by: JakeD2 | July 22, 2010 6:45 PM | Report abuse

As one of the Blue Collar Comedy guys says, "you can't fix stupid," and that was, is, and always will be her biggest problem.

Posted by: pcpatterson | July 22, 2010 6:40 PM | Report abuse

Is there any chance Gregory Charles Royal will vote for Palin?

Posted by: broadwayjoe | July 22, 2010 6:36 PM | Report abuse

TelePrompTer Obama seems arrogant to me too (and he QUIT both his State Senate and U.S. Senate seats after promising to serve full terms). You were saying?

Posted by: JakeD2 | July 22, 2010 6:19 PM | Report abuse

Anyone else (let me know if this is not a logical question):

Assuming arguendo that Obama is unchallenged in the Dem primary, doesn't NH law allow for his supporters to cross-over and vote for Palin in the GOP primary based on their belief that she would be the easiest for Obama to beat in the general election?

Posted by: JakeD2 | July 22, 2010 6:15 PM | Report abuse

Her NH problems are three, being empty-headed, arrogant, and a quitter. With that going "for" you, you need nothing to go against you.

Posted by: ronjeske | July 22, 2010 6:09 PM | Report abuse

broadwayjoe:

Misunderestimate (as some TWO-TERM President I know of said) her at your own risk.

Posted by: JakeD2 | July 22, 2010 6:06 PM | Report abuse

There is no point debating Palin with her supporters. Debate is predicated in logic and truth and Palin supporters have by definition repudiated both.

Not to worry, she is a supremely unready candidate, dead on arrival, and it's a coup you should be worried about, not an
Election.

Posted by: Noacoler | July 22, 2010 6:02 PM | Report abuse

Jake, I must refudiate that, as Palin would say.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | July 22, 2010 6:01 PM | Report abuse

Username, you're clearly a male if you honestly believe that "ugly, liberal women" are jealous of Palin. Most women or men don't pick their candidates for their looks, and if a woman was going to be jealous of anyone for that reason, she would choose a real beauty like Angelina Joie to resent, which would also be stupid. Liberal women don't like Palin for the same reason you don't like Obama, her "policies", if one can call her incoherent Facebook bleatings such.

As for her qualifications, exactly how does Mayor and half term Governor prepare her to deal with international politics, a deeply divided constituency and Congress, and yes, the mainstream press she abhors, because they dare to ask her questions she clearly doesn't know how to answer? Then there's her expertise on motherhood, if your idea of good mothering is dragging your pregnant, unwed daughter onstage with her thug beau and touting your son's military service, a choice he made to avoid going to jail. And she's a wife! How unique. On that basis, you should be supporting Nancy Pelosi, who also raised five kids and is still married to her college sweetheart. Finally, she's attractive and we all know how important that is.

Posted by: Koko3 | July 22, 2010 6:00 PM | Report abuse

WHAT IS WITH PALIN, WHY IS NOT THIS PARTY COURTING THE BLACK VOTE, OR MEXICAN VOTE, I'LL TELL U WHY, THEY ARE CLONES OF HITLER. THEY CARE NOTHING ABOUT THE US OR ABOUT BRINGING THIS COUNTRY TOGETHER. WHAT PLANS SARA DO U HAVE FOR URBAN DEVELOPMENT FOR THE POOR, OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT U ARE A PHONY AND NEED TO SPEAD YOUR LEGS FOR PLAYBOY. BECAUSE U HAVE NOTHING TO BRING TO THE TABLE, AND ANYTHING U SAY NOW WILL BE BOUNCING OFF THE WALLS, JUST SAYING WHAT PEOPLE WHAT TO HEAR AND MEANING NONE OF IT. LOOK SARAH, YOUR TEA PARTY AND THE REBULICAN PARTY CARE NOTHING ABOUT THE MIDDLE CLASS OR THE POOR OR THE ONES THAT HAVE LOST THEIR JOB, BUT THEY WANT TO PAY THEM WHEN THE GOVERNMENT HAS MONEY TO PAY FOR IT, BUT U REPUBLICANS CAN FIND MONEY FOR THE CRAP PROJECTS THAT MEAN NOTHING WHILE AMERICANS SUFFER. TO HELL WITH THE REBUBLICANS AND THE TEA PARTY. AND WE ALL KNOW (TEA PARTY) U WERE BEHIND THAT FIRING. U ALL HAVE NO DAMN CLASS.

Posted by: COOLSHARKBREEZE77 | July 22, 2010 6:00 PM | Report abuse

morphy:

Did you also see Facebook "apologize" for ACCIDENTALLY deleting Gov. Palin's post about the Ground Zero mosque?

Posted by: JakeD2 | July 22, 2010 6:00 PM | Report abuse

was this article prompted by JOURNOLIST, by any chance?? I mean, another negative article about Palin, You guys are beginning to sound like Letterman, pathetic!

Posted by: morphy | July 22, 2010 5:49 PM | Report abuse

ibrooke:

Executive (especially running a business) experience is much more important to me at least. To answer your question, I would much rather have Palin as President than Obama, even if she did quit mid-term.

Posted by: JakeD2 | July 22, 2010 5:45 PM | Report abuse

Data responding to post by: YouCanPostThis | July 22, 2010 3:36 PM re Palin's experience: In her almost 2 years as governor, Mrs. Palin represented a total population of 683,478 Alaskans (per 2007 census). In his 7 years of serving as Illinois State Senator for the 13th district, Mr. Obama represented 781,037 constituents (per 2006 census data). The Chicago metropolitan area has a population of over 9.7 million people (per 2007 census). In his almost 4 year stint as US Senator for Illinois, Mr. Obama has represented 12.8 million people in the state (per 2007 census).

I doubt Mrs. Palin will run as a candidate because she has set the pattern for right-wing GOP conservatives in avoiding the Q&A interviews normal until now in any campaign for public office. If hard questions aren't asked, how is anyone to know: a) what the candidate thinks in the fine details, b) how well & in what depth the candidate knows the subject and possible consequences of the policy he/she espouses, and c) how the candidate behaves under pressure, which will certainly occur during his/her stint in office. People viewing/hearing Q&A sessions can tell when a person is being hectored, and they will draw their own conclusions about the fairness of the interviewer & interviewee. Politics involves a lot of pressure. Do you want someone in office who may quit mid-term and abandon his/her sworn obligations? Hmm.

Posted by: ibrooke | July 22, 2010 5:38 PM | Report abuse

lmb02:

Gov. Palin was indeed for the bridge, before she was against it, and never lied about that. You are aware that Sen. Kerry was for Iraq war before he was against it, right. As was pointed out re: rationing (below) it is coming. How about that hidden tax on gold coins snuck into ObamaCare? Not even she caught that one.

Posted by: JakeD2 | July 22, 2010 5:28 PM | Report abuse

@username:

You're kidding, right? Never said anything untrue?

Try the bridge to nowhere. She was for it before she was against it. It's documented. Multiple sources. She, how can I put this in a way you'll understand, LIED.

Same with her lies about non-existent government "death panels" (the closest thing to "death panels", that is, panels that make decisions if people will get treatments paid for, already exist, run by the insurance companies, not government). Again, factually disproven by multiple independent sources (such as people who, unlike Palin, actually READ THE BILLS). She LIED.

The list goes on, but if you ignore those two examples, you'll ignore everything else to maintain your fantasy.

Don't worry, Mama Grizzly loves you (and the rest of the suckers who swallow her half-done koolaid).

Posted by: lmb02 | July 22, 2010 5:23 PM | Report abuse

Speaking of Palin ...

Newsone.com has an interesting interview with Charley James, the famed journalist who traveled to Alaska and broke the Palin "S@mbo-gate" story.

http://newsone.com/obama/casey-gane-mccalla/interview-with-charley-james-on-sambogate/

Posted by: broadwayjoe | July 22, 2010 5:22 PM | Report abuse

username:

If the choice was Obama v. Palin in 2012, for whom would you vote?

Posted by: JakeD2 | July 22, 2010 5:05 PM | Report abuse

I would suggest that Palin might have problems in primaries in more states than New Hampshire.

Posted by: Cyclopsina | July 22, 2010 5:03 PM | Report abuse

newbeeboy:

That comment belongs on the "Calling all Kennedys" thread (Bristol Palin would not be Constitutionally able to be President until October 18, 2025 ; )

Posted by: JakeD2 | July 22, 2010 5:00 PM | Report abuse

Palin has never said anything untrue.... Donald Berwick confirmed the rationing thing and it was in both the stimulus and the health care boondoggle bill. Sorry, the case is closed on that one. There WILL be rationing.

As for the nonsensical personal attacks on her being a 'bimbo' I don't see a thing that would earn her that title. As far as I know she is happily married and that's what makes all the ugly liberal women so jealous!

Also, she has far more executive experience than Obama who has never had a real job or run anything. Palin went from Alderman to Mayor to Governor and has been in charge of the Nat'l Guard and knows how to work with energy companies and fishing industries. Obama is just a dumb teleprompter reader with Soros' ideas on it.

Finally, for the person who pulled out the race card, glad none of you took the bait. No one cares about Ryan Murdough as seen in this article:

http://www.nhteapartycoalition.org/tea/2010/07/15/fringe-candidates-emerge-in-both-parties/

After this week, and after seeing the Journolist smoking gun, the race card is dead!

Posted by: username | July 22, 2010 4:56 PM | Report abuse

I would vote for Bristol.

Posted by: newbeeboy | July 22, 2010 4:54 PM | Report abuse

I do want to get back to our gracious host's comments about Independents. If Obama keeps driving them away, they won't have much of a choice (or they stay home this time around). How are we so "certain" that Obama won't be challenged for the Dem nomination. A couple more PPP results like this month, followed by electoral disaster this November, could convince an unnamed Secretary of State to consider exactly that. Speaking of screeching voice and high negatives ; )

But, assuming arguendo that Obama is unchallenged, doesn't NH law allow for his supporters (Independents AND Democrats) to cross-over to vote for Gov. Palin in the misguided hope that she would be the easiest for Obama to beat? That seems just as likely to me (especially in the early contests). Rush Limbaugh tried doing that in the Obama v. Hillary primaries. That, plus a very motivated GOP base (hat tip: mcfield), could indeed get her the nomination. After that, all bets are off.

Posted by: JakeD2 | July 22, 2010 4:54 PM | Report abuse

It's not that we flinty independents don't like Sarah, we like her enough, it's that we don't like Ayotte!

Most independents will go with a constitutional conservative like Jim Bender.

Ayotte has to much baggage that Palin could not have known about (Castle Doctrine, support for Sotomayor which can't make you pro-life, and not prosecuting Dems for voter fraud and pedophelia accusations...)

Posted by: username | July 22, 2010 4:47 PM | Report abuse

One thing everyone needs to understand, it is no longer about Palin or the Tea Party or personality. It is about *survival*. The Democrat's and the look alike Neoconservatives are free trade morons and cravenly grub after money from corporate and foreign donors, using *OUR* jobs and *OUR* country's future as trade goods. They flat out don't care about us. How many times do the Democrat's need to pull the sort of rubbish they pulled yesterday before you stop believing in them and ANYTHING they do? Are you really that stupid? That suicidal? No one cares if Sarah Palin is as dumb as an ox any more. She cannot be worse than Obama and her Tea Party cannot be worse than any Democrat. And, at the very least, she isn't Barak Obama and they aren't free trading Democrat's! I would expect millions of voters to decide the upcoming election on just that visceral basis -- "Vote for XXXX, he/she isn't Barak Obama or one of his lemmings".

Posted by: mibrooks27 | July 22, 2010 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Palin is both a blessing and a curse for the Republican party.

She knows how to connect with a large swath of people and can motivate them to give money. She also knows how to say zingers that catch on (remember "death panels"). She is also one of the most recognizable and influential figures in the Republican party.

Many can agree that she is not the sharpest tool in the shed (but neither was G W Bush and HE WON). However, she scares independents, is not liked by Democrats, and would motivate the base of both the democratic and republican parties.
Her ideal role seems to be that of a "King maker." However, I don't know if her ego will let her sit on the sidelines.
Finally, don't forget that anyone worth their salt will always be a "potential presidential candidate" even if they don't intend to run.

Given the fact that she is a play maker for the republican party, I think she actually deserves to be covered- even if I do not like it.

Posted by: mcfield | July 22, 2010 4:38 PM | Report abuse

broadwayjoe:

You won't be so glaad if Public Policy Polling (PPP) has them tied right before the election ...

Posted by: JakeD2 | July 22, 2010 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin will either be the catalyst for utter destruction of the Republican Party, or it's rebirth as a more moderate, sensible party. There won't be a third option.

Posted by: tschmidt | July 22, 2010 4:36 PM | Report abuse

I think Sarah "The Bimbo" Palin might run for POTUS, IF there's enough money in it for her, but I don't think she likes the fact that she'd have to account for her campaign spending.

I'd LOVE to see Sarah run, and just think, she'll finally be able to give that consession speech she wanted to give the last time she and McCain lost.


Posted by: lindalovejones | July 22, 2010 4:35 PM | Report abuse

Iconoblaster:

Did you vote for Obama last time around?

Posted by: JakeD2 | July 22, 2010 4:34 PM | Report abuse

I don't think so, Jake. Think I'll pass on that, er, link. But glad to hear about what it says...that is what it says about the BHO/Palin matchup.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | July 22, 2010 4:31 PM | Report abuse

If Palin is the Republican nominee in 2012, I'm leaving the GOP. I doubt I'll be alone. Her avid (rabid?) supporters will no doubt say "good riddance", or that I must have been a "RINO" anyway, but that would be classic sour grapes... she will need votes to win, all the votes she can get. And she won't get mine.

Posted by: Iconoblaster | July 22, 2010 4:26 PM | Report abuse

So, Palin made a few claims that weren't, ah, true, but that's common in the GOP and becoming even more common among Republicans as a whole.

The Republican mantra this election season:

Lie and deny.

I don't see Palin going to New Hampshire or anywhere just to campaign.

Palin makes paid appearances only, and don't forget to have her script ready of what you want to hear her say.


Posted by: lindalovejones | July 22, 2010 4:22 PM | Report abuse

If Sarah Palin had spent two weeks in New Hampshire, then everyone would be saying she is running for President.

NOW - they are complaining that she hasn't spent enough time there.

Anyway .......


The hate patrol is out on Sarah, isn't that true ????

The Daily Caller emails show that too - all those reporters should be FIRED for not being neutral. We have a conspiracy to influence the Presidential election - is there a way to throw them ALL in jail? They certainly belong there.


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Posted by: YouCanPostThis | July 22, 2010 4:21 PM | Report abuse

alesterp:

Hitler, really? Be afraid, be very afraid!

Posted by: JakeD2 | July 22, 2010 4:21 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: JakeD2 | July 22, 2010 4:16 PM | Report abuse

I can't believe anyone in his/her right mind would want a 'President Palin'. Here's someone who left her Alaskan governorship without a second thought. She cared little if anything for the people of Alaska who elected her She left...no looking back. I feel sorry for anyone who needs someone like Sarah Palin to feel good about themselves. What would happen to the America, if once again Palin decided to walk away from her elected job because it was best for her? People better think,then take a long, hard and educated look at Sarah Palin...Be very aware of how little she does know and how her ignorance on certain topics can incite that certain type of person or group of people. Research Sarah Palin throughly. You better 'think' serious and then decide for yourself if Sarah Palin is really the type of person you want as a candidate for President. Remember, Hitler incited people with unfounded rhetoric which lead to the murder of millions of innocent people, people who bought into what he spouted. I hope Americans doesn't make the same mistake. Be very, very, aware of Sarah Palin. Listen closely to what she says. See who she's really talking to and about. She is a danger to and for America because of her ability to incite and enrage people, those people who will believe anything said by anyone without thinking for themselves...just like those Germans.

Posted by: alesterp | July 22, 2010 4:14 PM | Report abuse

noa:

Ouch.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | July 22, 2010 4:13 PM | Report abuse

While in NH, Sarah may wany to check in with fellow teabagger Ryan J. Murdough, a Republican candidate for New Hampshire State House.

About Ryan ...

"While the tea party movement is desperately trying to fight off charges of “racist elements” from the NAACP, Ryan J. Murdough, a Republican candidate for New Hampshire State House, has no qualms about expressing his views on race. “It is time for white people in New Hampshire and across the country to take a stand,” Murdough wrote in a letter to the Concord Monitor titled “We must preserve our racial identity.”
_______________________

Sarah stands with you, er, we guess.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | July 22, 2010 4:08 PM | Report abuse

Cutie ---> virtue

Thanks a lot, autocorrect

Posted by: Noacoler | July 22, 2010 3:32 PM | Report abuse

Cutie ---> virtue

Thanks a lot, autocorrect

Posted by: Noacoler | July 22, 2010 3:32 PM | Report abuse

Cutie ---> virtue

Thanks a lot, autocorrect

Posted by: Noacoler | July 22, 2010 3:32 PM | Report abuse

Ped is stuttering again.

Posted by: Dead_and_Barryd | July 22, 2010 4:07 PM | Report abuse

Chris, I wonder if you can go one week without speculating about Palin? I know, I know, this is a political blog and speculation is the coin of that realm. I just think she's ridiculous and there are other conservative candidates--who have indicated they are very likely running for president-- to discuss.

Posted by: soonerthought | July 22, 2010 4:05 PM | Report abuse

Oh, Chris, just give it a break! Sarah Palin is A LOT smarter than your Democratic idiots in Congress and she and her movement will likely steam roll that collection of liars, cheats, self serving money grubbing clowns in November. I have no idea if that will eventually turn out to be a good thing or a bad thing and neither do you.

Yesterday, when, to great fanfare, the Democrat's passed aid extension for the jobless, they also passed (over the objections of the Tea Party types) the Tariff Reduction Act. Now, that bit of god awful legislation is flat guaranteed to result in tens of thousands of additional US jobs being outsourced. I do note that the Post didn't find it news worthy enough to even mention that bit of economic treason by Obama and his idiots, joined by the Neocon wing of the Republican Party.

Likewise, the "financial reform" legislation you tout so highly was passed by the Democrat's *after* they repealed Glass-Stiegel, after they did away with laws making corporate board members and executives responsible for corporate wrong doings, after even further deregulations of banks, Wall Street, and corporate practices. Do you seriously expect us to believe that that nest of snakes up there on Capital Hill is making progress on the economy, on the plight of working men and women? Do we really look that dumb? Look, ten steps back and one step forward IS NOT progress.

Posted by: mibrooks27 | July 22, 2010 4:05 PM | Report abuse

Finally on a decent keyboard.

Some recent Fix milestones:

* new interface starting at midnight.  We'll raise the bar for thoughtfulness and civility!  Really!  Oh, wait, technological change takes time .. real soon now .. uh .. (passage of days)

* fawning blog entry breathlessly enumerating the captivating figures comprising Mitt Romney's glorious general staff.  Written with the tone of dedicated Italian fascists hyperventilating over a Hitler visit to Rome with Goering and Himmler on the stage.  About as relevant to anything right now as deer tick population cycles

* Palin!  Palin!  Palin!  New Hampshire has a cold climate, just like Alaska!  And you can see Canada over the border.  Never mind that Alaska is mostly trailer trash from OK and New Hampshire has an unrelated and far less punitive version of conservatism.  They both have snow!

* Instead of fewer trolls, we get back one everyone was glad to see gone, and it's the exact same junk everyone was sick of, word for word.

* coverage of Sherrod and Vilsack with the tone of a boxing match.  Puddle-deep analysis faithful to the Fox News line.  Never mind the guy was lying, we don't care about that here, it's all about winning and perceptions.

And we should await a better blog because of some new software?  The problem here isn't the software.  The problem here is the blogger.

Posted by: Noacoler | July 22, 2010 4:05 PM | Report abuse

Go away! Palin and the rest- 2009 Election is over.. we have elected our President and we are keeping him....

Posted by: ProudAmerican58 | July 22, 2010 4:02 PM | Report abuse

This Marist poll from earlier this year shows Mrs. Todd Phalin losing by 15 points to BHO in 2012:

"...a just-released poll by the Marist College Institute for Public Opinion finds that Obama would decisively defeat Palin in a hypothetical race between the two and independent New York City mayor Michael Bloomberg.

Marist found that Obama would win such a match-up by 15 points, garnering 44 percent of the vote to Palin's 29. Bloomberg was behind with 15 percent.

The race may well turn out to be a reality as polls show Palin is a leading contender for the Republican nomination in 2012."

http://rawstory.com/2010/02/obama-destroy-palin-hypothetical-matchup/

Case closed.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | July 22, 2010 3:58 PM | Report abuse

You forgot her fourth problem -- she's not too bright, she cannot talk serious policy spontaneusly, even with years of coaching, and is so radical she is popular with only a third of the nation's voters -- plus her negatives are WAY higher than her positives.

Actually, that's 6 problems. But it doesn't matter anyway -- she will never run, because holding office is work and all she wants is money and more money.

Posted by: drindl
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You make her sound like Katie Couric.

Posted by: leapin | July 22, 2010 3:55 PM | Report abuse

I lived in NH for years. My neighbors there were an eclectic mix of crunchy granola liberals and live-and-let-live libertarians. They are for the most part sensible and well-educated and they respect facts and knowledge and a well-informed and respectful debate above ideology and vapid bumper sticker factoids. There were very few of the Christian right conservatives or angry antigovernment nuts or mama grizzlies that might feel a kinship with Palin.

New Hampshire is NOT a good fit for Palin, she'll get creamed there. I don't think Iowa is going to be friendly to her, either. The caucus process requires lots of face time with people asking hard questions and expecting sensible answers, not platitudes.

God, I hope she is the Republican nominee...

Posted by: TimothyJ1 | July 22, 2010 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Nonsense.

Palin has a gig on a TV show. It's a flop. She's taking the celebrity path, not the public servant path, you may as well be talking about president Britney Spears.

Palin's negatives are sky-high and trending higher.

And even if you ignore all that and allow the possibility that Iowans and others would be as irresponsible as MCain, there remains one solid wall between Palin and public office: that horrid voice. When she speaks, millions of hands grope for remotes. Nine months of that babble and twang ending in 300 electorals? Wake up.

And only 44% of *Republicans* regard her as fit for public office.

Can we getvserious, plesde?

Posted by: Noacoler | July 22, 2010 3:46 PM | Report abuse

Why would Palin court NH voters? She likes Ayotte, and lots of people like Ayotte, thus, they have a lot in common. Is that so hard to understand? Wow, this article was a waste of time!

Posted by: coffic | July 22, 2010 3:46 PM | Report abuse

With Palin's ego it would not surprise me at all for her to try and run for president. The problem is she does not have the intelligence or know how to compete. She quit and left Alaska in a mess and is not interested in anything but making headlines and money.
Unfortunately, the media, especially CNN, are constantly headlining this irresponsible radical.

Posted by: kathlenec | July 22, 2010 3:46 PM | Report abuse

Why is Palin the subject of discussion? - she is a self serving politician going nowhere - I am certain the Republicans can and will nominate someone a lot more qualified -

In fact I would not be surprised that after the mid-term elections a moderate who can carry Independents becomes the overnight frontruuner and Palin will be footnote 9 trillion in the history of failed politicians

I'm jaded - I am convinced she only gets coverage because the left leaning press wants her to be the frontrunner to scare Independents back to Obama

Bobby WC

Posted by: bobbywc | July 22, 2010 3:45 PM | Report abuse

Give Palin credit. She understands that New Hampshire is a complete s**thole that no one would want to voluntarily spend any time visiting.

Posted by: bacala1 | July 22, 2010 3:41 PM | Report abuse

Ever notice how all the Palin pictures they use have her mouth wide open? Is there something Freudian going on there?

Posted by: nuke41 | July 22, 2010 3:39 PM | Report abuse

Shake-Palin's biggest problem requiring a fix is getting a brain transplant. She does not possess the abiility to think or speak logically, cogently, or coherently without that fix. I live in Alaska, and we branded her "SBS," Sound-bye Sarah! Total waste of time to cover this idiiot.

Posted by: mfoley1 | July 22, 2010 3:39 PM | Report abuse

Palin's half term in office is still more executive experience than Obama has - even at this point.

Sad, but true.


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Posted by: YouCanPostThis | July 22, 2010 3:36 PM | Report abuse

drindl:

You are deluded if you think I'm here to answer your questions. Try Google.

Posted by: JakeD2 | July 22, 2010 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Cutie ---> virtue

Thanks a lot, autocorrect

Posted by: Noacoler | July 22, 2010 3:32 PM | Report abuse

Cutie ---> virtue

Thanks a lot, autocorrect

Posted by: Noacoler | July 22, 2010 3:32 PM | Report abuse

Cutie ---> virtue

Thanks a lot, autocorrect

Posted by: Noacoler | July 22, 2010 3:32 PM | Report abuse

paul65:

The GOP will hold its primaries in 2012, not 2010. Other than that, may I suggest you donate at http://www.SarahPAC.com to make your dream come true. You know, put your money where your mouth is?

Posted by: JakeD2 | July 22, 2010 3:30 PM | Report abuse

NH a match for Palin by virtue of cold weather? This is at least as vapid as foreign policy credentials by cutie if seeing Russia through the mist from an eye-lind in uh-LAS-kuh. Chris, you are a complete hack of a writer. This kind of writing belongs in those papers that sell at the checkout counter in a grocery store. Really.

The promised changes are ever more remote, the software probably doesn't work, and the cherry on top is the unbanning of the one troll as racist and even more repetitive than 37th, posting the exact same routines as before.

Posted by: Noacoler | July 22, 2010 3:29 PM | Report abuse

"The last poll I saw (as opposed to your fevered imagination) had Obama and Palin TIED! Romney was actually a few points ahead of him. Better get used to "President Palin"."


'Poll' riiiiiiight... done by?

Funniest thing I've read all day. The delusons some people harbor.

Posted by: drindl | July 22, 2010 3:24 PM | Report abuse

broadwayjoe:

The last poll I saw (as opposed to your fevered imagination) had Obama and Palin TIED! Romney was actually a few points ahead of him. Better get used to "President Palin".

Posted by: JakeD2 | July 22, 2010 3:20 PM | Report abuse

Sarah -- even with two alleged enhancements and a properly fitted alleged wig -- loses to BHO by 23 points and loses 44 states if she runs in 2012 so...

Go Sarah-cuda!
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BTW, has Mrs. Palin issued any policy statement since she communicated one of her personal "policies" to trombonist Gregory Charles Royal? Just askin'.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | July 22, 2010 3:12 PM | Report abuse

"Good God. I'll never get that 3 minutes back. "

"presumed to understand the New Hampshire voter due to her roots in another cold-weather state with a relatively small population."

That made me laugh out loud. And now for more comic relief, another joke of a candidate:

'Former Nevada state Rep. Sharron Angle, the Republican nominee for Senate against Democratic Majority Leader Harry Reid, is still getting the hang of holding a "press conference" with the media. At an event Wednesday, Angle spoke for three minutes on cutting taxes -- and then quickly left when the assembled reporters tried to ask her questions.

The funniest thing, as shown in tracking video from the Nevada Democratic Party, is that Angle's host seemingly invited the reporters to ask questions -- then Angle suddenly walked away without saying anything.

As CNN points out, the event was in fact billed as a press conference in Angle's own campaign events schedule. It should also be noted that Angle has previously said she avoids interviews with mainstream media outlets that would ask her tough questions.'

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/07/angle-holds-press-conference-takes-no-questions-and-leaves-video.php?ref=fpb

Posted by: drindl | July 22, 2010 3:09 PM | Report abuse

As a Democrat, all I can say is: Pleeeeeeaaaase be the Republican Presidential nominee in 2010, Sarah! PRETTY PLEEEEEEAAAAASE!!!

Posted by: paul65 | July 22, 2010 3:03 PM | Report abuse

My brother is married to a woman he met in Siberia. Maybe he could win in New Hampshire.

Posted by: shrink2 | July 22, 2010 2:48 PM | Report abuse

Patrick J. Buchanan won the GOP New Hampshire primary in 1996. Sarah Palin is more "extreme" than Pat?! Paul Tsongas won that Dem primary in 1992. It can be done (with or without New Hampshire):

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0710/40072.html

"Sarah Palin is at the top of her party"

Posted by: JakeD2 | July 22, 2010 2:48 PM | Report abuse

Well Bsimon she can see it from her house.

Posted by: AndyR3 | July 22, 2010 2:38 PM | Report abuse

Oh, please! How many "personal contacts" did Obama have in the State on July 22, 2006? As you pointed out, GWB lost New Hampshire in the 2000 GOP primary (Hillary won it for the Dems in 2009), and we saw how that worked out. Don't you worry about Gov. Palin ; )

Posted by: JakeD2 | July 22, 2010 2:38 PM | Report abuse

"she is also presumed to understand the New Hampshire voter because of her roots in another cold-weather state with a relatively small population."

Are you high? Alaska is the granddaddy of all government assistance programs, where as NH is by far the most libertarian state in the Union. NOT to mention that there is a significant New England liberalism that is alive and well in NH (Dartmouth). That and the fact that even republicans here are pretty staunch environmentalists. You want to see the difference between GOPers in AK and NH just look at Ted Stevens and Judd Gregg.

Posted by: AndyR3 | July 22, 2010 2:37 PM | Report abuse

Good God. I'll never get that 3 minutes back. I'm not sure if I feel more contempt for the people that think Palin is a viable national political candidate, the people of New Hampshire who feel entitled to a deep personal friendship with all the candidates, or the writers who come up with nonsense like this:

"not only is Palin regarded as the most prominent conservative figure in the country but she is presumed to understand the New Hampshire voter due to her roots in another cold-weather state with a relatively small population."

What next, a presumed understanding of voters in siberia because its cold there too?

Posted by: bsimon1 | July 22, 2010 2:36 PM | Report abuse

You forgot her fourth problem -- she's not too bright, she cannot talk serious policy spontaneusly, even with years of coaching, and is so radical she is popular with only a third of the nation's voters -- plus her negatives are WAY higher than her positives.

Actually, that's 6 problems. But it doesn't matter anyway -- she will never run, because holding office is work and all she wants is money and more money.

Posted by: drindl | July 22, 2010 2:31 PM | Report abuse

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