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Will Indiana Sen. Evan Bayh run for president? AP Photo by AJ Mast

In the immediate aftermath of Indiana Sen. Evan Bayh's surprise retirement on Monday, speculation about his political future (if any) has run rampant -- with most commentators focusing on a single remark in his speech.

"I am an executive at heart," Bayh said. "I value my independence. I am not motivated by strident partisanship or ideology. These traits may be useful in many walks of life, but unfortunately they are not highly valued in Congress."

Conservative columnist Charles Krauthammer -- appearing on Bret Baier's "Special Report" on Fox News Channel -- picked up on that "executive" line as evidence that Bayh's decision to step aside is evidence he is plotting a presidential run.

"He's been the governor," said Krauthammer. "There's only one executive position left and that's the president."

Krauthammer added that if Bayh does indeed have an eye on the presidency then retiring was a "smart move" for two reasons. First, there was the possibility -- though far from the likelihood -- that Bayh could have lost his re-election race this fall, a scenario that would blemish his perfect electoral record and likely end any ambition he might have for the top office. Second, staying in the Senate would have force Bayh "to "spend the next years in a tussle with his own liberal leaders", according to Krauthammer.

The "Bayh for president" sentiment was also expressed by the Post's own Chuck Lane who wrote a piece on the "PostPartisan" blog -- well worth the bookmark! -- that suggested the Indiana Senator could run as soon as 2012 in a primary against President Obama.

Wrote Lane:

"Quitting the Senate was a no-lose move for the presidentially ambitious Bayh, since he can now crawl away from the political wreckage for a couple of years, plausibly alleging that he tried to steer the party in a different direction -- and then be perfectly positioned to mount a centrist primary challenge to Obama in 2012, depending on circumstances."

And, Democratic strategist Joe Trippi tweeted of Bayh's retirement: "Bayh's chances of being POTUS just went up 10 fold."

So, should we start printing the "Bayh for President" bumper stickers? Not just yet.

There's no question that Bayh would like to be president -- he thought seriously about running in 2004 and formed an exploratory committee for a very brief period in 2008, not to mention twice being on the vice presidential short list -- but the impediments that kept him from making it onto the national ticket over the last eight years are not likely to disappear in the next two or even six years.

The biggest problem for Bayh is his centrist approach to government. The presidential campaign trail is littered with candidates who tried to win their party's nomination by running from the middle.

Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani thought his credentials as "America's Mayor" and his handling of the aftermath of the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks in New York City would take precedent in primary voters' minds over his socially liberal positions on abortion and gay marriage. He didn't win a single state in 2008.

Connecticut Sen. Joe Lieberman believed his high profile from being Al Gore's ticketmate in 2000 coupled with his sunny centrism was the right recipe for the country. After pulling off a three-way tie for third in the New Hampshire primary (he finished fifth), Lieberman's presidential bid fizzled.

The closest a centrist candidate came to winning his party's presidential nomination in recent years was in 2000 when Sen. John McCain (Ariz.) won the New Hampshire and Michigan primaries to nearly topple the juggernaut that was then Texas Gov. George W. Bush. But, in reality, McCain wasn't truly a centrist -- his voting record was largely reflective of his down-the-line conservatism on most issues -- but rather a deal-maker who liked to be in the middle of major legislation in the Senate.

(The one exception to the "moderate loser" model is sitting presidents and vice presidents. President Jimmy Carter beat back a challenge from his ideological left from Sen. Ted Kennedy in 1980 while Vice President Al Gore defeated the more liberal Sen. Bill Bradley in 2000. On the Republican side, President Gerald Ford defeated Ronald Reagan's conservative uprising in 1976.)

Is it possible that the political winds could shift significantly enough in the next two to six years that the base of the Democratic party would turn to a centrist to represent their side in the next presidential election? Anything's possible in politics -- see Brown, Scott. But it's VERY unlikely.

The second seemingly unsolvable problem for Bayh's presidential ambitions is that he does not have the sort of charismatic personality that typically -- though not always -- is part and parcel of a winning presidential candidate.

Bayh is charitably described using terms like "genuine", "nice" and "good guy" and less charitably as "boring" and "vanilla". Those close to the vice presidential selection process in 2004 and 2008 acknowledge that Bayh's plain persona was something that worked against him being the pick -- although it was not the determining factor.

While Bayh is still very young in terms of the political arena (he's in his early 50s) he's probably too old to radically change his personality -- nor should he. That personality has made him the most successful Democratic politician in recent Indiana history and brought him to the brink of national success.

But, it also held him back from crossing that final line and becoming a player on the national ticket. It's hard to imagine that Bayh's "plain Jane" persona wouldn't continue to be a problem for him in the future, just as it has been in the past.

Our guess for Bayh's next move? A run for the open governorship of the Hoosier State when Gov. Mitch Daniels (R) is term limited out in 2012. The job would almost certainly be Bayh's for the asking and he has made no secret that being governor, which he did for two terms in the late 1980s and 1990s, was a post he enjoyed immensely.

If Bayh got elected governor again in 2012 he obviously could use that perch to run for president. But, Bayh is an astute political mind -- more so than many people realize or give him credit for -- and has always understood acutely the barriers between himself and the presidency.

Unless and until those barriers change -- and it's hard to see how they would -- Bayh is likely to stay out of the race for the White House in 2012 or 2016.

By Chris Cillizza  |  February 17, 2010; 3:06 PM ET
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Posted by: st50taw | February 18, 2010 6:25 PM | Report abuse

Scott Brown is looking great right now -
Posted by: 37thand0street
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As of late, the GOP has had an attention span of a cricket when it comes to presidential candidates.

"looking great"...That literally sums up Scott Brown's qualifications.

Wait a minute! Are you sure that's not Jim Palmer?

Posted by: st50taw | February 18, 2010 6:21 PM | Report abuse

The public wants someone to govern the country. I do not believe people care much about the details of healthcare reforms; they just want someone to do something about the national problems. They gave the Democrats everything necessary to govern. But a few obdurate ‘moderates’ refused to get on board with the leadership, and blocked with the Republicans to stop healthcare reform in its tracks. Because of this group, the Democrats dithered until it was too late. The public has concluded that the Democrats are incapable of governing, and it is right. Now, after causing this train wreck, Bayh is flouncing away from the responsibility. As a lifelong Hoosier, I say this:

Evan Bayh is an obstinate fool.

Posted by: ffoulks | February 18, 2010 3:16 PM | Report abuse

Bayh has what known as "Hoosier Charisma"; i.e., no discernable charisma to any else.

Posted by: ffoulks | February 18, 2010 3:15 PM | Report abuse

Bayh has what known as "Hoosier Charisma"; i.e., no discernable charisma to any else.

Posted by: ffoulks | February 18, 2010 3:15 PM | Report abuse

Bayh has what known as "Hoosier Charisma"; i.e., no discernable charisma to any else.

Posted by: ffoulks | February 18, 2010 3:15 PM | Report abuse

Bayh has what known as "Hoosier Charisma"; i.e., no discernable charisma to any else.

Posted by: ffoulks | February 18, 2010 3:15 PM | Report abuse

Would he quit that job too? Not Bayh. Not Palin. No quitters!

Posted by: Lefty_ | February 18, 2010 1:46 PM | Report abuse

Bayh is an opportunist, he would be the health insurance candidate.

Posted by: knjincvc | February 18, 2010 1:13 PM | Report abuse

Why are so many acting like Biden not running for president in 2016 == him not being on the ticket in 2012?

It's a good thing for Obama to have a VP who won't run in 2016. One of Biden's strengths in the administration is that he's willing to speak his mind even if it's an unpopular opinion (this may be a weakness when reporters are around, but not in private meetings). Obama would be less likely to get that from someone whose political future hinges on Obama's decisions; a VP who's clearly running in 2016 would have to look out for his or her own skin. Biden simply does not have to do that.

On top of that, he's a known entity. By this point, the administration knows his weaknesses. They already know how to handle him. Why give that up to start fresh in 2016?

And it's not like there isn't precedent. Cheney didn't run in 2008, after all. While there was talk of him leaving the ticket in 2004, much of that was because of his health--it's fairly obvious Biden's healthier. The only way Biden is *not* on the ticket in 2012 is either if he himself chooses to retire (unlikely), if Obama has a moment of sheer stupidity and short-sightedness, or if Biden somehow completely screws up and has to be thrown off the team.

Plus...he is cray-cray. Straight-up certifiable. You never know. He might just run in 2016.

Posted by: dkp01 | February 18, 2010 1:12 PM | Report abuse

LMFAO !!

Posted by: dem4life1 | February 18, 2010 11:54 AM | Report abuse

kstack - Why do you say things that are false? Bayh is not a quitter because he did not quit. He decided not to run for relection again. Different.

Posted by: GeneWells | February 18, 2010 11:23 AM | Report abuse

Someone looks to Krauthammer for objective insight on any topic?

Posted by: Sutter | February 18, 2010 10:50 AM | Report abuse
Do Charles is WAYY over your Head???

Posted by: redhawk2 | February 18, 2010 11:21 AM | Report abuse

Bayh for CIC??? Why not! Time for a Centrist Pro America Fellow for a cghange and hopefully the Destruction of the Progressive taking over of teh Democratic Party.
It seems to me that at present Obama and his Progressive Lemmings have hit Rock Bottom and have Begun to Dig even Deeper...

Posted by: redhawk2 | February 18, 2010 11:19 AM | Report abuse

Someone looks to Krauthammer for objective insight on any topic?

Posted by: Sutter | February 18, 2010 10:50 AM | Report abuse

He wasn't the candidate last time becauase he had nothing to offer in the way of ideas, charisma, leadership, brainpower, etc. Nice ethical guy with his heart in the right place, but that's it. Walking away from the country's problems isn't going to enhance his electability or change what kept him far far from the nomination the last time.

Posted by: fmjk | February 18, 2010 10:02 AM | Report abuse

He wasn't the candidate last time becauase he had nothing to offer in the way of ideas, charisma, leadership, brainpower, etc. Nice ethical guy with his heart in the right place, but that's it. Walking away from the country's problems isn't going to enhance his electability or change what kept him far far from the nomination the last time.

Posted by: fmjk | February 18, 2010 10:02 AM | Report abuse

Oh absolutely...Bayh for president. Then if Palin runs, each party could have a quitter on the ticket. Why would either group want someone who has admitted (s)he can'ttake the heat?

Posted by: kstack | February 18, 2010 9:42 AM | Report abuse

I personally feel that byah has been to closely align with the republicans during the previous adminstration to even consider his trying to run as democrat if he is going to run he needs to swithch an run as the real republican that he is. Just another elephant dressing up as a donkey if you ask me thank you

Posted by: pbjbeach@yahoo.com | February 18, 2010 9:37 AM | Report abuse

in 2012 the "anybody but obama" sentiment might work for him...

Posted by: DwightCollins | February 18, 2010 9:04 AM | Report abuse

What about: Bayh replaces Biden as VP in 2013/2014 (assuming re-election)when Biden retires citing age/health/family/a desire to get a 2016 candidate into office ASAP/etc?

I just can't help but think that Biden won't finish two terms (if they win in 2012) as VP given that he is very unlikely to run in 2016.

Posted by: Tiki79 | February 18, 2010 7:42 AM | Report abuse

BlanketyBlank you're ridiculous.

How has Bayh not seen the job through? He was elected to a 6 year term and has decided not to seek re-election.

Your analysis would be appropriate for Gov. Palin who QUIT in the middle of her governorship, demonstrating her lack of follow through. But for Bayh, your statement is entirely inaccurate. Bayh did not quit.

Posted by: braketime_bt | February 18, 2010 5:53 AM | Report abuse

This idea also presumes a falling out between Obama and Clinton. In which case Bayh is wishing upon a star.

Posted by: Daedalus | February 18, 2010 5:50 AM | Report abuse

Bayh perhaps could have been nominated for president by the Democrats during the 1890's, early 1900's or 1920's. He seems sort of similar to Grover Cleveland in his moderately conservative Democratic opinions.

However, he is too conservative to be nominated by the Democrats in the modern era.

Posted by: Aprogressiveindependent | February 18, 2010 1:23 AM | Report abuse

Correction....Bayh-bye....1 a.m. typo...

Posted by: BlanketyBlank | February 18, 2010 12:56 AM | Report abuse

Byah-bye, Evan !

You're not going to be missed much in actuality.

BTW, since you can't see the job through, why would someone support you in a campaign for the nomination or in a Presidential election? You might just decide in the middle of things that you didn't have the stomach for it or "just didn't want to do it."

Posted by: BlanketyBlank | February 18, 2010 12:54 AM | Report abuse

What was today? A bunch of Pretend Press Releases and Pretend Press Interviews to attempt to fool people into believing the stimulus bill worked somehow.


Obama was never really clear what that "somehow" was - despite is repeated pronouncements of the phrase "let me be clear."


Obama is sinking - and sinking so fast - the actual new risk is that the American people are about to tune Obama out - locking in their negative views of his zany campaign promises and Obama's turn to the left faster than a jackrabbit running across the street.

Many people have no idea why Obama chose to highlight a program which is so dubious.

What you have here is Obama and his people believing that if they repeat something many times, it becomes true. Thinking people judge for themselves - and Obama lost a great deal of thinking people today.

Obama is becoming more and more of a disaster.


Obama's entire agenda has not worked - it is in shreds. He needs something different. Holding a news conference to pretend that the stimulus worked -


Then holding a conference with the Republicans to pretend that Obama is being bipartisan


Then trying to get the health care bill passed - pretending that the moderate democrats are going to back the bill now.


IS THIS OBAMA'S PLAN ???


It just can NOT be Obama's plan.


If Obama does that, he will only highlight his own weaknesses - go right ahead.

This is getting ugly. Really ugly.

Today was a terrible disaster for Obama.


He is now making stupid mistakes.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 18, 2010 12:18 AM | Report abuse

Evan Bayh is just another political opportunist, a silver spoon in the mouth boy. His resignation proves his utter lack of fitness for high public office. Send him back to Indiana where he belongs. Obscurity awaits.

Posted by: dsrobins | February 17, 2010 11:51 PM | Report abuse

Quit and then become President. Right.. If this keeps up we should call the next Presidential election Losers 2012.

Posted by: AMQ1 | February 17, 2010 11:45 PM | Report abuse

Being a member of congress he's already an expert at wasting money.

If he wants to waste $30 million plus in a humiliating failed attempt to become president I'm sure he'll get thank you notes for all the jobs his campaign creates in the newpaper, radio, TV, polling and political consultant industries.

Posted by: lithium452 | February 17, 2010 10:09 PM | Report abuse

LOL. Completely delusional. But I get it.

May you be forced to watch Mary Carillo's ridiculous Olympic feature on polar bears on a 56" HDTV again and again.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | February 17, 2010 9:18 PM

Yeah, completely delusional. Just like the prospect of a Scott Brown victory.

As far as the polar bear feauture, I would really like that. I didn't see it yet, but it does sound interesting. I'll let you know.

Posted by: SuzyCcup | February 17, 2010 9:27 PM | Report abuse

"The very fact that there is any speculation at all that Bayh will challenge obama in 2012 shows the tremendous disarray in the obama presidency and that he is clearly vulnerable within his own party.

Bayh is no dummy. He has $13 million dollars to start with. He will challenge obama in 2012.

Bayh quit because he knew that any more votes he cast as a senator for the obama agenda would hurt his future chances at being president.

I expect Hillary to resign in 2011 also and enter the fray. She still has a score to settle with obama.

This is no republican pipe dream.


Posted by: SuzyCcup | February 17, 2010 9:02 PM
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LOL. Completely delusional. But I get it.

"You're traveling through another dimension, a dimension not only of sight and sound but of mind. A journey into a wondrous land whose boundaries are that of imagination. That's the signpost up ahead -your next stop, the Twilight Zone!"

Cup, you are a clearly a permanent resident of Drudge/Fix's Twilight Zone. Say hello to Rod Serling for me... Bayh and HRC taking on BHO in a primary...is that after they spend the Well Point funds or dodge Bosnian snipers? Is this the TZ episode where you find out you are just one of many toys in some kid's shoe box?

May you be forced to watch Mary Carillo's ridiculous Olympic feature on polar bears on a 56" HDTV again and again.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | February 17, 2010 9:18 PM | Report abuse

Don't include Hillary in the Centrist or right wing- her positions, policies and votes have always been more progressive than Baracks- the left is just sold on Barack for some reason- want examples?
Canada "not really" for NAFTA- remember?
Nuclear Power?
Against HRC plan for going bottom up to fix mortgage problem before it blew up
Against totally universal health care coverage plan
voted for allowing president to bypass FISA

Barack spoke at an anti-Iraq rally when he was a state senator from a liberal district- is that where you get lib street cred? He voted on Iraq exactly as she did once he was in.

Libs who voted for him in the primaries (or more specifically the caucuses where he won the thing) don't read much campaign material or have short memory spans. His (short) record is available in this newspaper for US senate.

Posted by: NYClefty | February 17, 2010 9:13 PM | Report abuse

The very fact that there is any speculation at all that Bayh will challenge obama in 2012 shows the tremendous disarray in the obama presidency and that he is clearly vulnerable within his own party.

Bayh is no dummy. He has $13 million dollars to start with. He will challenge obama in 2012.

Bayh quit because he knew that any more votes he cast as a senator for the obama agenda would hurt his future chances at being president.

I expect Hillary to resign in 2011 also and enter the fray. She still has a score to settle with obama.

This is no republican pipe dream.

Posted by: SuzyCcup | February 17, 2010 9:02 PM | Report abuse

"The insane thing is that the prognostication is for freakin 2012! Um, the Dems already have their candidate slated for 2012. I realize that a primary challenge to Obama is political pornography for the conservatives, but please...behind closed doors. They're just being vulgar now.

Posted by: DDAWD | February 17, 2010 6:04 PM"
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What's more the article doesn't say why Bayh retired--allegedly it was because of a conflict of interest involving millions of dollars he got from from Well Point and Big Insurance recently as he obstructed Obamacare initiatives.

From Dailykos:

"Not only was Susan (and Evan) taking a lot of heat over her connection with Wellpoint -- but the company had come under increasing fire from the Obama administration.

Now -- we learn that Wellpoint was also jacking up premiums on its customers in Bayh's home state of Indiana. Could this have created the perfect storm? Was Bayh concerned that he had feet of clay -- and that his wife's connection to Wellpoint would become a big albatross around his neck?

Remember -- Bayh's decision seemed to come out of the blue. Could there be some damaging revelation waiting in the wings?"

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/2/16/163116/854

Bayh for President. Yes...of the teabaggers.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | February 17, 2010 8:15 PM | Report abuse

Bayh for President? He's free to waste his time & money. Not so sure there's a market for milquetoast. (Though the GOP seems to harbor such delusions). Good riddance-just go away, Evan. You've already disappointed the memory of your father.

Posted by: chicago11 | February 17, 2010 7:30 PM | Report abuse

Uh, actually, it was Bayh's disgust with republican intransigence... but never let facts get in the way of your ideology.

Posted by: drindl | February 17, 2010 7:05 PM | Report abuse

Lets hope that Sen Bayh's disgust with the radical left wing agenda and corruption of Obama, Pelosi, and Reid is genuine. It would be great to see Him or Hillary take Obama on in 2012 in an attempt to bring moderation, and sanity back to the Democratic party and our nation!

Posted by: valwayne | February 17, 2010 6:46 PM | Report abuse

If Obama had taken the money and just hired people - at 30K each that would be


26 MILLION JOBS


There are only 15 Million people unemployed, they could have hired everyone who is unemployed !!!


The money was diverted to democratic special interests.


Obama is a miserable failure - and all Obama does is go out there and LIE.


OBAMA LIED - OBAMA LIED - OBAMA LIED.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 17, 2010 6:45 PM | Report abuse

President of what? The Heritage Foundation? Give me a break.

Posted by: st50taw | February 17, 2010 6:44 PM | Report abuse

HEY CHRIS, he might be able to write for the Washington post

Posted by: mernatti123 | February 17, 2010 6:31 PM | Report abuse

Don't you understand, Chris is sending a clear signal: any career change means that the person is running for President.

For instance, Chris has upped his appearances on Andrea Mitchell.

Clearly, Chris is running for President.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 17, 2010 6:28 PM | Report abuse

Krauthammer is smart but he is not relevant in the mold of Bill Buckley. Bayh's presidential aspirations never got off the ground in 2008.

Since the election of Reagan, the American people have elected the best showman. Bayh is not a good enough actor.

Posted by: Gator-ron | February 17, 2010 6:24 PM | Report abuse

Hey dingleberry, the republicans were in charge of the house during the first six years of bush 2. Or did you purposely forget that little tidbit? Moron.

Posted by: jasperanselm
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Barrydingle -
What does that have to do with the last 2 years when things started going south?

Posted by: leapin | February 17, 2010 6:14 PM | Report abuse

"That's Howie Kurtz, in TODAY'S WaPo. Shouldn't we at least _acknowledge_ that? because the only space where I've seen Bayh pimped for POTUS since he decided to bail is here. Not that I give this space much credence, I'm just here for the entertaiment value...."

The insane thing is that the prognostication is for freakin 2012! Um, the Dems already have their candidate slated for 2012. I realize that a primary challenge to Obama is political pornography for the conservatives, but please...behind closed doors. They're just being vulgar now.

Posted by: DDAWD | February 17, 2010 6:04 PM | Report abuse

I'd respond to you fake 37, but you're too much of a joke to be seriously addressed.

Posted by: jasperanselm | February 17, 2010 6:00 PM | Report abuse

Who were those people with D after their name who's constitutional responsibility is to propose the budget to the president?

Posted by: leakin

Hey dingleberry, the republicans were in charge of the house during the first six years of bush 2. Or did you purposely forget that little tidbit? Moron.

Posted by: jasperanselm | February 17, 2010 5:58 PM | Report abuse

"Just as many jumped to the conclusion that Sarah Palin would run for president after bailing out of her job as governor, some were talking up the possibility of Bayh challenging President Obama in 2012. Sorry: The senator slammed the door on that in a round of morning show interviews Tuesday, without using any of the usual weasel words about not wanting to close any doors. "

That's Howie Kurtz, in TODAY'S WaPo. Shouldn't we at least _acknowledge_ that? because the only space where I've seen Bayh pimped for POTUS since he decided to bail is here. Not that I give this space much credence, I'm just here for the entertaiment value....

More from Kurtz, which seems to fit this post: "That's why I don't take seriously this chatter about Bayh running for president. He's not a good fit with the party's dominant left wing. I don't get why this WP piece says "the decision marks the close -- at least for now -- of a career that was long expected to end in the White House."

Really? Expected by whom? Journalists? The guy flirted with a White House run a couple of times and decided against it. "

Works for me.

Posted by: gbooksdc | February 17, 2010 5:56 PM | Report abuse

Only if he runs on the Crybaby ticket. But that would mean playing running mate to La Palin.

Posted by: mattintx | February 17, 2010 5:48 PM | Report abuse


Why did the democrats want a completely inexperienced and far-left person be President ?


Could someone please go over that with me again???


I keep trying to figure out why so many people voted for him.


......... when they had a perfectly good military hero on the other ticket.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 17, 2010 5:44 PM | Report abuse


DCsage1 writes at 5:23

African Americans will flood the polls again in November 2010 to cast 95% of their votes against the do-nothings in hopes of giving do-nothing bigots another royal smackdown.

______________________________________


Are you implying that blacks vote based on the color of the skin of the candidate??


Or do the blacks evaluate who is the best candidate based on an evaluation of who will do a better job in office?


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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 17, 2010 5:41 PM | Report abuse

Mr. Cillizza - are you ON something? I mean " really" - suggesting Evan Bayh has any political future left in him - after all of the corrupted choices he made this past year?

He is lucky to be retiring - with all of his benefits, campaign monies in the bank and health care package for himself and his family (only hypocritically so not the same "package" as he was dooming my family and yours to)...

YOU somehow see him as the "future" of the dem party? How so - because he unsuccessfully put his hat in the ring before? Wow.

Come on Cillizza - don't you care about the country a little bit more than to suggest dems have to "settle" for more of the same - puppeteering, hate mongering, no way are they going to ever invite bipartisan participation in the way this country is governed, only progressive stuff?

No way.

Posted by: eastcomom | February 17, 2010 5:40 PM | Report abuse

I had mentioned this for some time......If Obama decided to run in 2012 (He may choose not to) he will choose a different VP, one that would be a stepping stone for the 2016 run. My feeling Obama would pick a woman for VP in 2012. So Bayh would likely look to run in 2016. A favorites for the ballot in 2012 as running mates would be...Katherine Sebelias, Chris Gregoire, and Claire McCaskill.

Posted by: djp98374 | February 17, 2010 5:32 PM | Report abuse

DCSage1


Take a look around you - Obama and the democrats are the do-nothings now.


I have to tell you that I find your remarks incredibly racist and offensive.

We are supposed to be working toward a post-racial era.


Martin Luther King would be ashamed of you.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 17, 2010 5:29 PM | Report abuse

Ugh, please, no. Do not like this guy. Squishy centrist. And just to be superficial for a moment, what kind of haircut is that?

Posted by: privacy3 | February 17, 2010 5:29 PM | Report abuse

Hey numbnuts, the budget fiascos all started under republican leadership. First Reagan, then Bush 1 and then Bush 2. We were VERY fortunate that Clinton managed to let Bush 2 start with a SURPLUS or who knows how bad off we'd be.

Awesome Bush 2 budgeting! Cut taxes AND increase spending! You repukes have no credibility anymore; you're just too dumb to realize it.

Posted by: jasperanselm
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Who were those people with D after their name who's constitutional responsibility is to propose the budget to the president?

Posted by: leapin | February 17, 2010 5:28 PM | Report abuse

Anyone seriously putting Bayh's name out there as a 2012 contender has no clue what they're talking about. Just some daydreams from conservative talking heads...

http://www.political-buzz.com/

Posted by: parkerfl1 | February 17, 2010 5:27 PM | Report abuse

His wife is a lobbyist for the private health care industry. And this guy is in it for the bucks. Yeah, sure I'll vote for him...uh huh

Posted by: jato11 | February 17, 2010 5:24 PM | Report abuse

His wife is a lobbyist for the private health care industry. And this guy is in it for the bucks. Yeah, sure I'll vote for him...uh huh

Posted by: jato11 | February 17, 2010 5:24 PM | Report abuse

His wife is a lobbyist for the private health care industry. And this guy is in it for the bucks. Yeah, sure I'll vote for him...uh huh

Posted by: jato11 | February 17, 2010 5:24 PM | Report abuse

jasperanselm

Clinton's budget was because of the additional taxes due to the internet bubble - would you rather have all that money lost - or the federal budget balanced for a few days?

I can not believe you.


Clinton was so irresponsible with this country it was unbelievable - first with the economy allowing the internet bubble to grow and then burst.


Second, Clinton cut the intelligence budget and pulled our agents out of the Middle East until we were practically blind intelligence wise.

Clinton was a complete disaster -

Someone once said in 1992 when the Clintons were out, this country would look more like Arkansas.


I didn't believe them.


But they were right.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 17, 2010 5:23 PM | Report abuse

Gosh, I still remember trying to rev myself up in case Bayh was our VP candidate by repeatedly watching John Mellencamp videos (Mellencamp is the ultimate rocker from Indiana), but I have to admit I was hoping for Joe Biden. It's nothing against Bayh but Biden has that extra depth of knowledge, especially in foreign policy, plus an almost gut-level emotional connection with voters across the country. I'm grateful we have VP Joe Biden, though I am sorry if that choice led to Senator Bayh's departure.

Posted by: fairfaxvoter | February 17, 2010 5:23 PM | Report abuse

37thand0street wrote: "Does anyone remember all the trash talk in the democratic party in the spring of 2008 - how the blacks would never forgive the democrats if they were seen as "stealing" the nomination from a half-black man ????"

DC Sage 1 wrote: I don't remeber that. What I do remember is how African Americans flooded the polls and stood in long lines just for an opportunity to cast a ballot against the old do-nothing phony John McCain and his Wasilla attack dog. African Americans voted 95% against the do-nothings and helped to administer a royal smackdown to the do-nothing party of no.

It's good to see the do-nothings take their early victory laps and celebrate their wins in 2010 when the elections haven't even run yet. The do-nothings may yet get all of those victories they keep gloating and celebrating ahead of time, but there is one thing that they can count on. African Americans will flood the polls again in November 2010 to cast 95% of their votes against the do-nothings in hopes of giving do-nothing bigots another royal smackdown.

Posted by: DCSage1 | February 17, 2010 5:23 PM | Report abuse

The thought that Joe Biden might not want to spend a second term as vice president had occurred to me
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
no point in telling him until, say, 2014. He'll never know the difference.

Posted by: drivl | February 17, 2010 5:22 PM | Report abuse

Yes, President of the dog catcher's society of Indiana, maybe?

Posted by: truth1 | February 17, 2010 5:22 PM | Report abuse

Senator Bayh let his supporters think he was running for re election even collecting donations and then he pulled the rug from under them. Bayh has shown who he really is a user and dumped his supporters. Well let the field of clowns continue as Bayh joins Cosmo Brown, Wacko Palin, Racist Limbaugh, Alcoholic/druggie Glen Beck and many other wing nuts looking to get the Oval Office. The Terrorist love these idiots and are rooting for them.

Posted by: qqbDEyZW | February 17, 2010 5:20 PM | Report abuse

birkenja raises a good question -- could Evan Bayh be looking at not a presidential bid, but a vice presidential bid? The thought that Joe Biden might not want to spend a second term as vice president had occurred to me, and considering how close Bayh got to being President Obama's VP pick in 2008, it wouldn't shock me to learn he's jockeying to get that spot in 2012. I'm seeing some backlash against Bayh from the liberal community, but with Obama still topping the ticket, I doubt much of that crowd would consider Bayh as VP a dealbreaker.

Plus, one of Biden's major selling points as Obama's VP was his lengthy experience in Washington to pick up the slack on how relatively new to the scene Obama was. In 2012, Obama will be the incumbent, and the experience aspect of Biden's appeal won't apply to the same extent. So without needing to focus on that aspect of the race, you can use a guy like Bayh to shore up support from independents and moderate Democrats. And that doesn't just benefit Obama -- it puts Bayh in a prime position if he decides to run for president in 2016.

On a side note, what's with these comments that keep popping up from people complaining about how early the political predictions are being made? If they're not interested in the horse-race aspect of politics, why are they reading a blog that is wholly dedicated to that aspect?

Posted by: GJonahJameson | February 17, 2010 5:16 PM | Report abuse

Why did the democrats want a completely inexperienced and far-left person be President ?


Could someone please go over that with me again???

I keep trying to figure out why so many people voted for him.

......... when they had a perfectly good military hero on the other ticket.


.

Posted by: 37thand0street | February 17, 2010 5:15 PM | Report abuse

I think we have a new Ace Mcnumbnuts aboard.

Posted by: drivl | February 17, 2010 5:15 PM | Report abuse

Typical media nonsense. The guy said he's not going to run, the election 3 years away, but the WP decides that since he MAY run, they have to gin up speculation.

He's not going to run; if he does run, he won't win; and the election is too far away to even discuss at this point.

Is this the best use of valuable print space from a dying newspaper?

Posted by: AxelDC | February 17, 2010 5:14 PM | Report abuse

Evan Bayh let us down on Health Care -- I talked with Birch Bayh in the 60s and he would have worked hard to get Medicare for all.
My neice in Indiana lost her job during the Bush meltdown, had health problems, no insurance, so she committed suicide.
Medicare for all!
Right now!

Posted by: lehi | February 17, 2010 5:13 PM | Report abuse

Obama has completely lost the independent voters and has no chance of a second term. Bayh is the ONLY Democrat that could beat whoever the GOP runs. Bayh is terribly moderate but fiscally ver conservative - exactly what America needs right now! The GOP might even ask him to run as a Republican, although he has said he does not want to change political parties..........at least not yet.

Posted by: Realist20 | February 17, 2010 5:11 PM | Report abuse

I talked with Birch Bayh when I was at I.U. -- also Vance Hartke -- 2 great Indiana Senators who worked for the people of Indiana.
Evan Bayh is no Birch Bayh. He's a lobby guy. He's also a quitter and a sore loser -- just like Palin. His 'career' in the Senate?? Lazy, lazy, lazy
Northern Indiana has some of the worst unemployment in the U.S. -- wake up Hoosiers! Look to the future, find someone who REALLY works hard for you and vote for them. Thank you, Pres. Obama for putting your light on Elkhart -- we really needed that, it helped.

Posted by: lehi | February 17, 2010 5:10 PM | Report abuse

Another example of Cillizza's shallow brain. What a useless column.

Posted by: bigbrother1 | February 17, 2010 5:08 PM | Report abuse

Horace says its your turn to watch the dogs for Cruella.

Posted by: drivl


Watching a kid's movie while you type garbage? Who's the ped now?

Posted by: jasperanselm | February 17, 2010 5:05 PM | Report abuse

Evan Bayh for President?

As a Republican, yes, I can see that.

Posted by: aahpat | February 17, 2010 5:01 PM | Report abuse

He'll probably want to get his family out of that 1985 Seaver family wardrobe before he considers a serious run for anything in the 21st century.

Posted by: joneshn | February 17, 2010 5:01 PM | Report abuse

What? Are the republicans doing the budget again? Oh yeah, right, my mistake; cutting taxes INCREASES tax revenues. Ha, ha, ha....
Posted by: jasperanselm
-----------------------------------------
What? Are the demos doing the budget again? Oh yeah, right, your mistake, increasing spending DECREASES debt. Hee, hee, hee...

Posted by: leakin


Hey numbnuts, the budget fiascos all started under republican leadership. First Reagan, then Bush 1 and then Bush 2. We were VERY fortunate that Clinton managed to let Bush 2 start with a SURPLUS or who knows how bad off we'd be.

Awesome Bush 2 budgeting! Cut taxes AND increase spending! You repukes have no credibility anymore; you're just too dumb to realize it.

Posted by: jasperanselm | February 17, 2010 5:00 PM | Report abuse

he is a Quitter pure and simple just like Sarah Palin.
Quitters are not rewarded with my vote.
He doesn't like what Rs are doing by creating gridlock in the US Senate.
Fine stay and fix it by leading the movement for the Constitutional Option to end the abuse of the filibuster. Anything short of that marks you as a coward unfit for public office, much less as leader of the free world.

Posted by: leichtman | February 17, 2010 4:59 PM | Report abuse

Not sure that Bill Bradley as the liberal candidate/Al Gore as the more conservative candidate in 2000 fits neatly into this paradigm. That is far from clear that that was the case at the time, and since then, Gore seems to have moved more towards the left, or at least that seems to be the perception of him within the Democratic party.

As far as the premise of Evan Bayh running for President and having a shot---I agree with Cillizza, not gonna happen.

Posted by: EntertainmentBookGoneSouth | February 17, 2010 4:59 PM | Report abuse

If he ran, I wouldn't vote for him. Sorry, but he messed everyone up with his late decision not to run--the Democrats are scrambling to replace him, and the GOP have a weaker primary that they could have had since many would-be contenders stayed out of the race for fear of being trounced by Bayh. Both parties would have benefited had he announced his decision earlier. As it stands, neither major party will be offering up their best campaigns.

Everyone loses EXCEPT for Bayh, who's going to run off to rake in some "non-partisan" cash as a corporate lobbyist.

Posted by: dkp01 | February 17, 2010 4:59 PM | Report abuse

Who says that he plans on running for the actual top spot in 2012. In my opinion, he is freed up now for being picked for a possible position. Vice President Biden is too old to run for president in 2016 and President Obama may be looking to his electoral prospects in 2012. I could see a scenario where Vice President Biden steps down before reelection, President Obama picks up Senator Bayh as a Vice President and successor. This would help President Obama with centrist Democrats, independents and moderates in the Midwest like Indiana and Ohio in 2012 while picking a moderate that could win the presidency in 2016. I always thought with Biden's age and if President Obama's electoral prospects diminished he would pick a centrist like Bayh or Warner to help improve his reelection chances and ensure he has a successor that could win the White House in 2016.

Posted by: birkenja | February 17, 2010 4:53 PM | Report abuse

If he repents and fights against corporate influence with his whole heart, yes I think he would be an incredible president. Meanwhile, I've started a facebook group "Call Senator Evan Bayh to Repentance" I hope you'll join on this Ash Wednesday.

I'm his classmate from St. Albans, and our honor code requires me to do this, especially the way things have gotten in the country. I wouldn't hurt Evan like this if I didn't think God had big plans for him and if I didn't think he could help save our country. Please join and tell your friends. You don't have to be Christian. I'm a Buddhist:
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=356653215728

Posted by: Vajrakilaya | February 17, 2010 4:53 PM | Report abuse

Horace says its your turn to watch the dogs for Cruella.

Posted by: drivl | February 17, 2010 4:53 PM | Report abuse

How about a third party or independent run? Let the extremist have both of these corrupt and inept parties - run right up the middle. Sen. Bayh is as well positioned as anyone to put a nail in the coffin of these two disgusting parties.

Posted by: clawrence35 | February 17, 2010 4:51 PM | Report abuse

I really can't see the fanatics in the democratic party dumping Obama - they would rather race the lemmings in Madagascar than do something that is smart.


Having said that...


Does anyone remember all the trash talk in the democratic party in the spring of 2008 - how the blacks would never forgive the democrats if they were seen as "stealing" the nomination from a half-black man ????


It was like "you will be dead to me" kind of stuff.


If Obama had any self-respect, he would save his party its majorities in both Houses of Congress and resign now.


Does Obama really want to be responsible for the loss of all those leadership positions, all those committee positions, and all those staff positions?


It is just not right -


.

Posted by: 37thand0street | February 17, 2010 4:50 PM | Report abuse

I really wish the Washington press would dig into Bayh's past in Indiana - during the time he ran for governor, and shortly thereafter.

He has some scary skeletons in his closet just waiting to jump out. But it takes a little more than the lazy pundits who don't do their homework to get to them!

Posted by: expat2MEX | February 17, 2010 4:49 PM | Report abuse

wj_phillips


Good - we do not want the Chinese crap -


The trade deal which Clinton negotiated is horrible.


How did we get in debt $800 billion to the Chinese in such a short period of time.

Hillary used to be on the board of Wal-mart - now Wal-Mart is bringing all the chinese goods over here - and we are falling into debt.

Make Wal-mart buy from American producers - put all those jobs here.


We are going to be better off.

.

Posted by: 37thand0street | February 17, 2010 4:47 PM | Report abuse

What? Are the republicans doing the budget again? Oh yeah, right, my mistake; cutting taxes INCREASES tax revenues. Ha, ha, ha....
Posted by: jasperanselm
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What? Are the demos doing the budget again? Oh yeah, right, your mistake, increasing spending DECREASES debt. Hee, hee, hee...

Posted by: leapin | February 17, 2010 4:47 PM | Report abuse

Honest, straight forward, problem solver.
Bayh is better then anything I see coming
from the right.
Strong on national defense.
He has this politically odd habit
of answering questions.
It just might catch on.

Posted by: simonsays1 | February 17, 2010 4:46 PM | Report abuse

Democrats are in danger of losing their grip on the majority in Congress if they don’t show more leadership and coordinate better, according to former aides and restive party strategists. Those interviewed say the White House and congressional leaders must settle internal disputes and focus on Republicans. Otherwise, they could face landslide losses during this year’s midterm elections.

Posted by: drivl | February 17, 2010 4:46 PM | Report abuse

Of course that's what he's doing. Methinks his pissy little comment about jobs was a jab at Obama for dancing with Biden instead of the prima donna. He doesn't have a prayer; a total light-weight opportunist, not unlike a certain ex-governor from Alaska.

Posted by: abqcleve | February 17, 2010 4:43 PM | Report abuse

ABO. Anybody But Obama.

Posted by: JAH3 | February 17, 2010 4:43 PM | Report abuse

No.

Posted by: GODalmighty | February 17, 2010 4:41 PM | Report abuse

I really can't see the fanatics in the democratic party dumping Obama - they would rather race the lemmings in Madagascar than do something that is smart.


Having said that...


Does anyone remember all the trash talk in the democratic party in the spring of 2008 - how the blacks would never forgive the democrats if they were seen as "stealing" the nomination from a half-black man ????


It was like "you will be dead to me" kind of stuff.


If Obama had any self-respect, he would save his party its majorities in both Houses of Congress and resign now.


Does Obama really want to be responsible for the loss of all those leadership positions, all those committee positions, and all those staff positions?


It is just not right -


.

Posted by: 37thand0street | February 17, 2010 4:34 PM | Report abuse


Just maybe Bayh knows the it is going to hit the fan and wants to have his family safely out of DC.

In case you wonders missed it, the Chinese maybe preparing to stop supporting our national debt. No more bankrolling our borrow and spent policies of both Democrats and Republicans.

Without the Chinese buying our bonds the US economy will totally tank. And they will likely stop accepting our IOUs for the stuff we import. Others will follow. No fuel, no food, no goods, NO USA! And maybe 100 million dead in a year from starvation and killing each other.

While Anerica continues to burn Republicans slavishly follow the Limbaugh line -- the buffoon leading the fools. Democrats contiue to follow the ultra looney liberals. Need proof. Just look at most of the posts on this site.

Playing idealogy while the country tanks. Hopefully the buffoon right and the looney left will continue to argue idealogy while they starve. Those of us left will have more elbow room, and the unfettered chance to rebuild America!


Posted by: wj_phillips | February 17, 2010 4:34 PM | Report abuse

Evan Bayh had a chance to accomplish some thing big. But he blew it. He should have pushed the bipartisan commission on balanced budget bill passed. He should have taken the case to the country and shown some leadership.

But he failed. Instead he blamed both the parties as opposed to point out who was really responsible for this critical bill.

Posted by: ak1967 | February 17, 2010 4:34 PM | Report abuse

I'm a faithful Democrat and that would prevent me from voting for that man. He reminds me of John Edwards with a Midwest accent.

Posted by: dubhlaoich | February 17, 2010 4:31 PM | Report abuse

Be nice but he doesn't have the guts.

Posted by: crrobin | February 17, 2010 4:28 PM | Report abuse

Evan Bayh is lazy. He tried to play safe.

He should have stayed in the Senate and tried hard to get bipartisan commission to balance the budget bill passed. Some thing he believed in. But he just gave up and started blaming both the parties. Excuse me, which party really killed the bill? It requires courage to point finger where it belongs if you believe in some thing.

Posted by: ak1967 | February 17, 2010 4:27 PM | Report abuse

He and Palin could be the quitters ticket. "Yes We Can't in 2012"

Posted by: lostinthemiddle | February 17, 2010 4:22 PM | Report abuse

Please stop writing this stuff. It's February, 2010. The perpetual campaigning is bad enough when done by politicians, so it would be nice if the media wouldn't encourage them. I elect people to govern, not to campaign.

That said, I think it's nonsense to think Bayh could run to the right of Obama. At this point, Obama is to the right of Reagan.

Posted by: ChrisDC | February 17, 2010 4:21 PM | Report abuse

and now, in the key of G, ballooning deficits as far as the eye can see.

Posted by: drivl


What? Are the republicans doing the budget again? Oh yeah, right, my mistake; cutting taxes INCREASES tax revenues. Ha, ha, ha....

Posted by: jasperanselm | February 17, 2010 4:18 PM | Report abuse

Bayh won't run for office...Bayh is a pig just like sister palin in alaska is..they're in it for the money pure and simple. Running for and being in office is about ego... being a lobbyist or a Cluster-Fox talking head is a lot more profitable for you personally...

This is about dollars now... they believe that office was just a stepping stone...

Posted by: rbaldwin2 | February 17, 2010 4:16 PM | Report abuse

Bayh won't run for office...Bayh is a pig just like sister palin in alaska is..they're in it for the money pure and simple. Running for and being in office is about ego... being a lobbyist or a Cluster-Fox talking head is a lot more profitable for you personally...

This is about dollars now... they believe that office was just a stepping stone...

Posted by: rbaldwin2 | February 17, 2010 4:15 PM | Report abuse

I post occasionally. Since I only make each post once, and I don't include CAPS


or line breaks,

you may have missed them.

SORRY!

Posted by: Blarg | February 17, 2010 4:14 PM | Report abuse

While the Democrats may be open to any race or creed, there's not much chance of a 60 year old winning that party's nomination. So Bayh better start thinking about 2016...or even 2012.

Posted by: wolfcastle | February 17, 2010 4:13 PM | Report abuse

What Bayh said is hardly new. We've been hearing it all year from President Obama.

Posted by: muslit | February 17, 2010 4:11 PM | Report abuse

Funny, leakin, but I don't recall you having an issue with czars when bushie used them. That makes you nothing but a pathetic hypocrite.

Posted by: jasperanselm | February 17, 2010 4:09 PM | Report abuse

1st toilet paper that you use to clean your arrsss has more value and truth on it that what comes out of the mouth of that right-wing lunatic Israeli agent Charles Krauthammer.

2nd, Conservative parties in UK, Germany, Canada, etc. are best proves of how right-wing(1) the Democrats in US are and as a result what Utter complete Lunatics Republicans in US are whom are even to the right of the Democrats. After all consider the FACT that the conservative party in UK. which is the most conservative party in Europe, far more conservative than for example Angela Merkel's party that just won the elections in Germany is to the FAR LEFT of the Democrats in US since the Conservative party in UK, that is Margaret Thatchers (Iron Lady) party, is "four and square" for their Universal nationalized (aka Socialized aka single payer) health care system, which you can read about here:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/8200817.stm
what the Republican lunatics in US call "Socialism..."

So what we need is a 3rd party that is to the FAR left of the Democrats, that is a party that is inline with European (Right of Center) Governments which means a party that will invest far more of our Taxes in American people and cities via such services as Universal Nationalized health care rather than wasting it on a Gargantuan Military and one unnecessary war after another.

U can read much more here:
http://anoox.com/blog/Real_News.33758

Posted by: RealNews1 | February 17, 2010 4:08 PM | Report abuse

another good looking know nothing steps up:

John Mellencamp, the iconic rocker made famous by his songs about growing up in a small town, may be ready to move to the big city. Speculation is swirling that the liberal Mellencamp may put down his guitar and run for the U.S. Senate seat being vacated by Evan Bayh. The Indiana Democrat announced Monday that he will not seek election to a third term in November, sending party leaders scrambling for a viable replacement and boosting Republican hopes of winning the seat.


and now, in the key of G, ballooning deficits as far as the eye can see.

Posted by: drivl | February 17, 2010 4:06 PM | Report abuse

Couldn't Bayh traits be put to use as a czar? Or isn't he commie enough?

Posted by: leapin | February 17, 2010 4:06 PM | Report abuse

Now stretching the rubber band has begun.

Count on having multiple guesses. Some will be quite laughable.
It is like some player making good touchdown run, or someone displaying courage will be immediately recommended to be president or for some high office.

Posted by: 68b2b | February 17, 2010 4:05 PM | Report abuse

I really can't see the fanatics in the democratic party dumping Obama - they would rather race the lemmings in Madagascar than do something that is smart.


Having said that...


Does anyone remember all the trash talk in the democratic party in the spring of 2008 - how the blacks would never forgive the democrats if they were seen as "stealing" the nomination from a half-black man ????


It was like "you will be dead to me" kind of stuff.


If Obama had any self-respect, he would save his party its majorities in both Houses of Congress and resign now.


Does Obama really want to be responsible for the loss of all those leadership positions, all those committee positions, and all those staff positions?


It is just not right -

.

Posted by: 37thand0street | February 17, 2010 4:04 PM | Report abuse

Like drivl cares about anything but Obama.

Posted by: drivl

We call that a man-crush where I come from. I'm sure your right wingnut pals will be OK with your condition but remember, don't ask, don't tell.

Posted by: jasperanselm | February 17, 2010 4:04 PM | Report abuse

Now stretching the rubber band has begun.

Count on having multiple guesses. Some will be quite laughable.
It is like some player making good touchdown run, or someone displaying courage will be immediately recommended to be president or for some high office.

Posted by: 68b2b | February 17, 2010 4:03 PM | Report abuse

Blarg


Where have you been hiding?

Still supporting the liar Obama ?


.

Posted by: 37thand0street | February 17, 2010 3:58 PM | Report abuse

Chris, did you miss Bayh's uber-Shermanesque statement?: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/35439444#35419630 (go to 4:15 for this exchange w/ Mark Halperin)

Bayh goes the extra mile, calling Sherman "a wimp when it comes to making declarative statements." Admittedly, politicians can go back on the Sherman pledge (see Obama, Barack), but this sounded like he was shutting the door to the White House pretty tightly.

Posted by: mkmckoy | February 17, 2010 3:53 PM | Report abuse

No way he runs for president. 2 reasons.
1. he'll get slaughtered in the primaries, and if he doesnt you will see the lowest democratic turn-out in history
2. that job doesnt pay as well as lobbying.

Posted by: elijah24 | February 17, 2010 3:52 PM | Report abuse

BAYH TO AMERICA, INC. -- OR TO THE GOP?

Too bland, canned and non-committal to win the presidency...

...but maybe just right to be the front-man for some impersonal conglomerate.

And if he can convince his board of directors to keep jobs in America, more power to him.

But he shouldn't expect any significant support for a presidential run UNLESS he turn(coats) to the GOP... which just may be his plan. You know, save the Repubs from the tea partiers. Maybe he'll be joined by Lieberman.

***

NOW IT'S OBAMA'S GESTAPO USA. WHEN WILL TEAM OBAMA ACT?

http://nowpublic.com/world/u-s-silently-tortures-americans-cell-tower-microwaves
http://nowpublic.com/world/gestapo-usa-govt-funded-vigilante-network-terrorizes-america
OR NowPublic.com/scrivener (see "stories" list)

Posted by: scrivener50 | February 17, 2010 3:50 PM | Report abuse

"I am an executive at heart," Bayh said. "I value my independence. I am not motivated by strident partisanship or ideology. These traits may be useful in many walks of life, but unfortunately they are not highly valued in Congress."

---

But they are in the Cabinet.

BB

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | February 17, 2010 3:48 PM | Report abuse

Like Obama cares about anything but Obama.

Posted by: drivl | February 17, 2010 3:42 PM | Report abuse

I really can't see the fanatics in the democratic party dumping Obama - they would rather race the lemmings in Madagascar than do something that is smart.


Having said that...

Does anyone remember all the trash talk in the democratic party in the spring of 2008 - how the blacks would never forgive the democrats if they were seen as "stealing" the nomination from a half-black man ????

It was like "you will be dead to me" kind of stuff.

If Obama had any self-respect, he would save his party its majorities in both Houses of Congress and resign now.

Does Obama really want to be responsible for the loss of all those leadership positions, all those committee positions, and all those staff positions?

It is just not right -

.

Posted by: 37thand0street | February 17, 2010 3:40 PM | Report abuse

Scott Brown is looking great right now -


the one potential problem is Mitt Romney helped him and Brown may feel he should defer to Romney.


However, if Romney can put this ego aside, and decide to be the power behind Brown - many potential obstacles are solved.


First, Romney's problems with the Christian community would not be there with Brown.


Romney can be the "economic brains" - which would be a powerhouse combination.


Posted by: 37thand0street | February 17, 2010 3:35 PM | Report abuse

Bayh EXPLICITLY said yesterday that he's not interested in a 2012 run. But CC somehow didn't mention that, instead preferring to quote Krauthammer and Lane. Weak.

Posted by: Blarg | February 17, 2010 3:26 PM | Report abuse

sure. why shouldn't an undistinguished, no accomplishment, diddler, whiner, weak pretty boy liberal be in charge?

Oh wait. you mean a different one?

goodness no!

Posted by: drivl | February 17, 2010 3:16 PM | Report abuse

Bayh for President?

Fat chance. He's burned his bridges with the Democrats and the republicans certainly won't vote for him. Third Party? Yeah, sure, good luck with that; he'll be targeted by both parties.

Posted by: jasperanselm | February 17, 2010 3:12 PM | Report abuse

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